IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: January 12th, 2014-January 18th, 2014

DaemonFC	Piers Anthony worked in a little song about Coke in his book Companions of Xanth.	Jan 12 00:36
DaemonFC	"Coca Cola, stinky drink, pour it down the kitchen sink! Smells like vinegar and tastes like ink....."	Jan 12 00:36
DaemonFC	no, wait, I think he called it Choke-a-Cola.	Jan 12 00:36
DaemonFC	Trademark issues I guess.	Jan 12 00:37
MinceR	:D	Jan 12 00:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android eyewear offers virtual, augmented	Jan 12 01:08
TweetTuxMachines	reality http://t.co/o2MuRa4XAD	Jan 12 01:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge50i	Jan 12 01:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Android eyewear offers virtual, augmented reality \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 01:08
DaemonFC	http://i.imgur.com/20InuRv.png	Jan 12 01:50
DaemonFC	Uhhm, that can't be right.	Jan 12 01:50
MinceR	yup	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	It is?	Jan 12 01:51
MinceR	unless they have a time machine or something	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	oh	Jan 12 01:51
MinceR	i mean, it can't be right	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	I was going to say.	Jan 12 01:51
MinceR	:)	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	Looks like it goes into 5-6 months from now.	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	We're only 11 days into 2014.	Jan 12 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cell security in Apache HBase	Jan 12 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jYrgD7I7Gt	Jan 12 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge5iy	Jan 12 01:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Cell security in Apache HBase \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 01:51
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Sosumi	want to hear a joke	Jan 12 02:23
Sosumi	crapple only allows 40 seconds on custom tones for the iphone	Jan 12 02:23
Sosumi	apparently, more would violating copyright	Jan 12 02:24
Sosumi	*be	Jan 12 02:24
MinceR	:)	Jan 12 02:26
MinceR	gn	Jan 12 02:26
Sosumi	yes, but it's not over yet	Jan 12 02:27
Sosumi	I got a friend of wants the theme from "007 the man with the golden gun"	Jan 12 02:27
Sosumi	for his new gold iphone 5s	Jan 12 02:27
Sosumi	and I'm laughing hard because of how much hyped the entire time about having that song as a ringtone	Jan 12 02:28
Sosumi	*he hyped	Jan 12 02:28
*Sosumi is sleepy		Jan 12 02:28
Sosumi	will he return his "precious"	Jan 12 02:29
Sosumi	poor smeagel	Jan 12 02:29
Sosumi	rofl	Jan 12 02:29
MinceR	pathetic	Jan 12 02:29
MinceR	also, it would be a step backwards for bond, who used to have a nokia smartphone	Jan 12 02:30
MinceR	(back when nokia made smartphones)	Jan 12 02:30
Sosumi	actually I remember him using ericson	Jan 12 02:30
Sosumi	yeah, tomorrow never dies to present movies	Jan 12 02:32
Sosumi	were either ericson or sony-ericson	Jan 12 02:32
Sosumi	but ho well, enough with the laugher	Jan 12 02:34
Sosumi	to be I go	Jan 12 02:34
Sosumi	GN	Jan 12 02:34
MinceR	:)	Jan 12 02:34
MinceR	oh, what i thought was a nokia was a sony ericsson, apparently	Jan 12 02:35
MinceR	http://www.stuff.tv/5-best-james-bond-phones/news	Jan 12 02:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.stuff.tv \| 5 of the best James Bond phones \| Stuff [ http://ur1.ca/ge63g ]	Jan 12 02:35
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DaemonFC	I'm making chicken sandwiches and french fries. :)	Jan 12 05:18
DaemonFC	ALDI's "southern style" chicken patties are pretty good.	Jan 12 05:18
DaemonFC	And $2 a bag cheaper than Tyson.	Jan 12 05:18
DaemonFC	I love going to ALDI, the total doesn't ring up as fast as it does at other grocery stores. :)	Jan 12 05:19
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DaemonFC	The Playstation 4 is beating the XBOX 360.	Jan 12 09:55
DaemonFC	err, XBOX One, I meant	Jan 12 09:56
DaemonFC	The latest sales data says that PS 4 has sold about 5 million units, while XBOX One has sold about 3 million.	Jan 12 09:56
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 09:59
DaemonFC	Gorilla Glass 4 is apparently going to have ionic silver in the glass to kill germs.	Jan 12 09:59
DaemonFC	My LG G2 has Gorilla Glass 3, which doesn't kill germs, but it is 40% more damage resistant than the screen on the iPhone 5S. The iPhone 5S screens shatter so often that Apple stores make even more money off of most customers, by charging them $150 to replace the glass. :)	Jan 12 09:59
DaemonFC	The LG G2 is just an awesome phone.	Jan 12 10:00
DaemonFC	Haven't found anything to complain about.	Jan 12 10:00
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iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/12/web-tool-democracy-tim-berners-lee	Jan 12 10:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Two decades on, we must preserve the internet as a tool of democracy \| Technology \| The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/ge9sk ]	Jan 12 10:52
iophk	"Close to the principle of universality is that of decentralisation, which means that no permission is needed from a central authority to post anything on the web, there is no central controlling node, and so no single point of failure,"	Jan 12 10:53
iophk	That goes against his promotion of DRM	Jan 12 10:53
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DaemonFC	It would be nice if Fedora's build of Firefox supported h264.	Jan 12 11:18
DaemonFC	I don't like Chrome and I also don't like having to download Firefox from Mozilla.	Jan 12 11:18
schestowitz	"Thieving creates jobs, apparently. Ask Microsoft. Its crimes drove many people out of work so that Gates becomes richest in the world and does a little 'trickle-down' bu hiring cheap MS staff in India."	Jan 12 11:38
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507646	Jan 12 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cross-licensing and patent pools have another name: price-fixing, cartel, collusion. But if we called them that, state would not protect it.	Jan 12 11:38
schestowitz	"The state is very much protecting those cartels. They have been confused with national interest."	Jan 12 11:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507651	Jan 12 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fbi shows which side it's on, and it's not the people's, it's the oligarchs' http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/09/261115874/the-fbis-comey-on-snowden-confused-by-hero-talk	Jan 12 11:39
schestowitz	"It's amazing to see people say things like Comey does. He should be removed from office for malfeasance and incompetence based on what he says in that article."	Jan 12 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.npr.org \| FBI Director 'Confused' By Reports Calling Snowden A Hero : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/ge1wf ]	Jan 12 11:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3509482	Jan 12 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Terrorist" used to mean very specific thing.These days can mean activism, journalism, regulation, software development, attending protests.	Jan 12 11:40
schestowitz	"It can also mean demolition contracting, bee-keeping, coffee-mornings, and chain-saw meets…."	Jan 12 11:40
DaemonFC	schestowitz: Three of the top five selling laptops on Amazon are running GNU/Linux (Chrome OS).	Jan 12 11:44
DaemonFC	It's been the #1 for many months now (the Samsung model) but now it's #1, #2, and #5.	Jan 12 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On Slow News Days... http://t.co/mvY4d4HFbp	Jan 12 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gea9k	Jan 12 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| On Slow News Days... \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 12:03
Sosumi	crapple in order to charge more on damaged iphones	Jan 12 12:21
Sosumi	fused the glass to the lcd panel	Jan 12 12:21
Sosumi	so, crack the glass, replace both lcd+glass	Jan 12 12:21
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schestowitz	http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/global-traffic-map-2010/global-traffic-map-2010-wp1600.jpeg	Jan 12 12:30
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 12 13:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Possible Features For The Linux 3.14 Kernel	Jan 12 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sQPz0PCBtD	Jan 12 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gedf8	Jan 12 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Possible Features For The Linux 3.14 Kernel \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 14:35
iophk	http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/62781-kid-who-found-ptv-website-flaw-deserves-a-medal	Jan 12 14:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itwire.com \| Kid who found PTV website flaw deserves a medal [ http://ur1.ca/geds9 ]	Jan 12 14:47
iophk	version n+1, again	Jan 12 14:52
iophk	http://m.winsupersite.com/windows-8/threshold-be-called-windows-9-ship-april-2015	Jan 12 14:52
TechrightsBot-tr	m.winsupersite.com \| "Threshold" to be Called Windows 9, Ship in April 2015 \| Windows 8 content from Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows [ http://ur1.ca/gedwf ]	Jan 12 14:52
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geers	Jan 12 15:33
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Kid who found PTV website flaw deserves a medal http://t.co/sc5pJivoG2 so does #snowden - and #Nobel should be revoked from #obama	Jan 12 15:33
schestowitz	. http://ur1.ca/geerk http://ur1.ca/geerg http://ur1.ca/geer9 http://ur1.ca/geer6	Jan 12 15:33
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schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geerk	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "we will just have vaporware, that people will stop buying 486 machines" - Nathan Myhrvold, Microsoft	Jan 12 15:37
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geerg	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Stewart Alsop, industry gadfly, presented Gates with the "Golden Vaporware" award" -Barbarians Led by Bill Gates (PR book)	Jan 12 15:37
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geer9 http://ur1.ca/geer6	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "In the face of strong competition, Evangelism's focus may shift immediately to the next version" - #Microsoft http://t.co/clpUtQdNOj	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Windows booster Paul Thurrott: "Windows 9, Ship in April 2015" - oh, don't we know this strategy? #microsoft #vaporware #freezeTheMarket	Jan 12 15:37
schestowitz	iophk: spotted a minute ago: http://ur1.ca/geesb	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #microsoft Jack says "the latest KDE and Gnome desktops consume lots of memory." He clearly hasn't tried them then. http://t.co/3kcYzrl1rR	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.ydr.com \| Can I upgrade my Pentium 4 PCs to a new Windows? - The York Daily Record	Jan 12 15:37
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geesf http://ur1.ca/geesi	Jan 12 15:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: My #debian box with latest #kde has just half gigabyte of RAM. I used KDE3 for 5 years with just half a gigabyte of RAM to complete a Ph.D.	Jan 12 15:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #microsoft Jack says that #gnu #linux had RAM consumption issues. Yes, unlike Windows. ಠ_ಠ	Jan 12 15:40
*amarsh04 ran KDE 3.5 in 384 MiB of RAM on a PII-266		Jan 12 15:41
schestowitz	I ran it on 256 MB of RAM	Jan 12 15:42
schestowitz	But to be fair, it was slow	Jan 12 15:42
schestowitz	i mostly used it to SSH to the half gig box	Jan 12 15:42
Sosumi	@schestowitz: #microsoft Jack says that #gnu #linux had RAM consumption issues. Yes, unlike Windows. ಠ_ಠ	Jan 12 15:43
amarsh04	and I'm still running that same installation of Debian GNU/Linux on a P4 with 1.5 GB of RAM, although I needed to recompile some kde libraries to keep running KDE 3.5 on current kernels	Jan 12 15:43
Sosumi	who has memory leakage issues	Jan 12 15:43
Sosumi	you missed that	Jan 12 15:43
amarsh04	Linus Torvalds explained that unused RAM was wasted, and had it doing caching when it wasn't needed as the working set for programs' code and data	Jan 12 15:45
Sosumi	yeah, that is an obvious use for free ram	Jan 12 15:46
Sosumi	but what I mentioned is ram vanishing	Jan 12 15:47
Sosumi	or just not clearing out	Jan 12 15:47
amarsh04	as in not available for actual use due to being allocated and not de-allocated?	Jan 12 15:47
Sosumi	yes	Jan 12 15:48
Sosumi	and sometimes disappearing	Jan 12 15:48
Sosumi	and that is still happening in osx	Jan 12 15:49
Sosumi	it happened sometimes with 10.8	Jan 12 15:49
Sosumi	but with 10.9 it got only worse	Jan 12 15:49
Sosumi	mostly triggered by apps working outside the cocoa framework	Jan 12 15:51
Sosumi	but windows kind of always suffered from that	Jan 12 15:51
iophk	(17.37.38) schestowitz: iophk: spotted a minute ago	Jan 12 15:55
iophk	However it is almost a milestone that he even mentions the distro and its variants	Jan 12 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Biggest Problem With GTK & What Qt Does	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	Good http://t.co/4MwRclRYOi	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geex2	Jan 12 16:11
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Biggest Problem With GTK & What Qt Does Good \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 16:13
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Sosumi	http://www.janes.com/article/32190/pak-fa-stealth-features-patent-published	Jan 12 16:21
TechrightsBot-tr	www.janes.com \| PAK FA stealth features patent published - IHS Jane's 360 [ http://ur1.ca/geeyk ]	Jan 12 16:21
Sosumi	I think they are doing it wrong	Jan 12 16:22
Sosumi	drone barges are the future	Jan 12 16:22
Sosumi	same could be said about the f35	Jan 12 16:22
Sosumi	aka the flying piano	Jan 12 16:22
Sosumi	aka the new comanche	Jan 12 16:22
Sosumi	and in actually developing such devices they could open know how and tech developed for automation of forward outposts	Jan 12 16:28
Sosumi	in order to kickstart real space colonization	Jan 12 16:28
iophk	networking	Jan 12 16:32
iophk	http://www.skeptech.org/blog/2013/01/13/unscrewed-a-story-about-openbsd/	Jan 12 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.skeptech.org \| Unscrewed; A story about OpenBSD \| Dave Josephsen [ http://ur1.ca/gef0i ]	Jan 12 16:32
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 17:40
DaemonFC	In Finland, you don't have to be in the army, you can do civilian public service work.	Jan 12 17:40
DaemonFC	Being in the military is not something to be proud of. I would hope that what the Bush Forces did would prove that. A lot of military recruiters simply trolled poor neighborhoods that were destroyed by right-wing economic and trade policies, looking for poor young people that really had no choice except the military or dealing drugs. It's not a choice. It's a lack of options. People should have the option of doing something that is dignified, so	Jan 12 17:40
DaemonFC	that they can live life with their head held high.	Jan 12 17:40
Sosumi	why would you be proud of playing canon fodder?	Jan 12 17:58
Sosumi	go play video games for that	Jan 12 17:58
Sosumi	so, kudos to filand	Jan 12 17:58
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 18:00
DaemonFC	For most of the history of the US, if anyone even found out you were gay, you'd be murdered by the state (if nobody else killed you first). Then when those laws were largely repealed, they changed it to life in prison. Then when that was repealed in most states (some states kept them until they were struck down in 2003), they changed it to indefinite commitment to a state "mental hospital", by the time Texas went to court, it was down to a $500	Jan 12 18:00
DaemonFC	fine. Basically the fundie way of saying "We can't do anything worse to you, but we hate you and we want to use the state to hurt you as much as we can get away with!".	Jan 12 18:00
DaemonFC	The US has a long history of persecuting gay people. And I mean real persecution, not some whinyass fundie that got her stupid book lampooned and couldn't take the criticism. The Christian Taliban used the state to do their nasty work for years. Now we're just seeing marriage discrimination laws, because it's the last hateful thing they can do to us. That will have its day in court too, and it will be thrown out.	Jan 12 18:00
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DaemonFC	http://windowsitpro.com/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/alan-mulally-formally-ends-microsoft-ceo-speculation	Jan 12 18:18
TechrightsBot-tr	windowsitpro.com \| Alan Mulally Formally Ends Microsoft CEO Speculation \| Paul Thurrotts WinInfo content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/gefj1 ]	Jan 12 18:18
DaemonFC	He did his job for them already. He got their software into Ford cars.	Jan 12 18:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EPEL 7 Development http://t.co/y5cmaDmwYh	Jan 12 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefnd	Jan 12 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 16 “Petra” Cinnamon, KDE and MATE	Jan 12 18:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| EPEL 7 Development \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	review http://t.co/KtOfCssG5X	Jan 12 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefne	Jan 12 18:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 16 “Petra” Cinnamon, KDE and MATE review \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.13-rc8 released; final most likely to	Jan 12 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	release next week http://t.co/MZewfQxMha	Jan 12 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefng	Jan 12 18:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.13-rc8 released; final most likely to release next week \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Richard Stallman talk on Free Digital Society	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	in Tvm on Jan 16 http://t.co/Tvo4FuQQQc	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefni	Jan 12 18:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Richard Stallman talk on Free Digital Society in Tvm on Jan 16 \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 18:50
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Sosumi	http://torrentfreak.com/record-label-asks-google-to-censor-artists-twitter-accounts-140112/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter	Jan 12 19:25
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Record Label Asks Google to Censor Artists’ Twitter Accounts \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/geftl ]	Jan 12 19:25
Sosumi	pffffffffff	Jan 12 19:25
Sosumi	no words to describe the amount of fail	Jan 12 19:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow	Jan 12 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RCKYmr5ft4	Jan 12 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefwk	Jan 12 19:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 19:41
Sosumi	http://blog.gsmarena.com/windows-9-may-come-out-april-of-next-year/	Jan 12 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.gsmarena.com \| Windows 9 may come out April next year - GSMArena Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gefzc ]	Jan 12 19:54
Sosumi	with metro 2.0	Jan 12 19:55
Sosumi	aka the time when windows finally gets deprecated	Jan 12 19:55
Sosumi	m$ could always force everything they do into the xbox	Jan 12 19:55
Sosumi	kind of "personal, family friendly computer" that you can use to go to facebook and show how lonely or dumb you are	Jan 12 19:56
Sosumi	kind of like the earlier consoles	Jan 12 19:57
Sosumi	like when the famicon was called a "family computer"	Jan 12 19:57
Sosumi	I wouldn't mind that,	Jan 12 19:57
iophk	http://www.salon.com/2014/01/12/the_unstoppable_rise_of_bikes/	Jan 12 19:58
Sosumi	lets up they are dumb enough for that	Jan 12 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.salon.com \| The unstoppable rise of bikes - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/geg0k ]	Jan 12 19:58
Sosumi	since ppl aren't buying new computers anyways	Jan 12 19:58
Sosumi	since what they've is already enough	Jan 12 19:58
Sosumi	and the ones that are buying kind of do it in the high end or are gamers	Jan 12 19:59
Sosumi	and specially gamers, build their own computers	Jan 12 19:59
Sosumi	so, placing the consoles as the computer for the rest of us	Jan 12 19:59
Sosumi	kind of is a business opurtunity	Jan 12 20:00
Sosumi	and the move to x86 could mean that they are considering that	Jan 12 20:00
Sosumi	if they aren't,	Jan 12 20:00
Sosumi	better kick them out of their jobs	Jan 12 20:00
Sosumi	ofc I said all this from a business perspective	Jan 12 20:01
Sosumi	inside I just want M$ to burn to the ground	Jan 12 20:01
Sosumi	baby!	Jan 12 20:01
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iophk	http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5255_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312301400_-_through_a_prism_darkly_-_kurt_opsahl.html	Jan 12 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr	media.ccc.de \| CCC-TV - Through a PRISM, Darkly [ http://ur1.ca/geg4p ]	Jan 12 20:20
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	The reason I don't use Webkit browsers is because none of them have very good extensions. Chrome is probably the best out of them, but that's not saying much. Every once in a while, it forgets to load extensions like Chrome Adblock into a new tab process, and well, that's usually when I'm browsing a bittorrent website and all kinds of porn ads show up. That never happens with Firefox.	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	I don't know why people use Chrome. It's such a horrible browser. It's not even really a web browser. Some people think it is, but it's really spyware. If you're going to use it, you should use your GNU/Linux distribution's build of Chromium instead, and change your search engine, and turn off all the options that phone home to Google (many of which are still in Chromium).	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	At least you can trust Chromium to do what it says it does. It is stripped of all the proprietary software that's in Chrome and built from publicly available source code. So we know that there aren't any nasty surprises and backdoors that Google is slipping into the proprietary binary-only builds of Chrome.	Jan 12 20:32
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	I wouldn't use any other browser than Firefox. Ever. I use it exclusively on my desktop, and on my Android phone. It's the only browser that does what I want it to do. It's the only browser that I trust. It's the only browser that takes security seriously. Sure, Chrome might be secure from bad guys other than Google, but Google can still see everything you're doing with it. The sandbox helper even has setuid root, which means that Google can do	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	anything to your system files as well, even though your user account doesn't own them.	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	I agree that Google isn't much better than Apple, but they're the best option out of the hardware that's out there right now. I don't use Google services on my phone that much. I use DuckDuckGo as my search engine. I really hope that next time I upgrade my phone, that I can get one with Firefox OS. That sounds really nice. There's no reason why all apps shouldn't be web apps. Firefox is definitely powerful enough to enable that sort of	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	functionality. The big question is what kind of hardware partners they'll get. The one they announced the other day was a disappointment. It was Via, which is a third rate x86 processor company that has been particularly hostile to Free and Open Source Software in the past, and GNU/Linux in particular. I hope they do better than this. I was hoping they'd just use Snapdragon processors or something decent like that.	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 20:33
DaemonFC	Nobody really cares about Microsoft anymore. The only thing worse than being stuck with an iPhone would be getting stuck with Windows Phone. It's got all the same problems that iPhone does, plus the fact that all of the apps available for it are a joke. There's not even a spotify app. Internet Explorer? LOL	Jan 12 20:33
DaemonFC	Hey! Is that a Pocket Internet Explorer or are you just happy to see me? :)	Jan 12 20:33
Sosumi	http://www.cio.com/article/745769/Review_It_s_Easy_to_Fall_in_Love_with_Her_	Jan 12 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.cio.com \| Review: It's Easy to Fall in Love with 'Her' - CIO.com [ http://ur1.ca/geg7n ]	Jan 12 20:42
Sosumi	"The new film by Spike Jones offers a 'surprisingly believable' love story between man and machine."	Jan 12 20:42
Sosumi	aka, makes a nice starting point to discuss artificial life	Jan 12 20:43
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Sosumi	oracle says they'll come with a fix for around 36 bugs this week	Jan 12 21:17
Sosumi	knowing oracle	Jan 12 21:17
Sosumi	I wander how many times 36 bugs and exploits, their fix is going to originate	Jan 12 21:18
Sosumi	and to tell the truth, I kind of prefer sandboxing to java	Jan 12 21:19
Sosumi	for isolation	Jan 12 21:19
Sosumi	and I've just tried a bit of xonotic	Jan 12 22:40
Sosumi	and it's awesome	Jan 12 22:40
Sosumi	plays just like quake	Jan 12 22:40
Sosumi	and doesn't look fugly	Jan 12 22:40
DaemonFC	venussansfurs says:	Jan 12 23:16
DaemonFC	Does every parent regardless of income get a child tax subsidy or do you have to be below a certain income?	Jan 12 23:16
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 23:16
DaemonFC	You get a tax deduction for every dependent that you declare. There's no income limit, but it's a fixed amount for each deduction. You can claim the deduction on an unlimited number of dependents. You can even use it to get back more than you paid in taxes. It's a refundable credit like EITC.	Jan 12 23:16
DaemonFC	I remember reading that when the IRS started requiring the Social Security number of every child a parent was claiming (in the mid 80s), something like 7 million children disappeared from one tax year to the next. ;)	Jan 12 23:16
MinceR	gn	Jan 12 23:48
DaemonFC	http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/21/us/haircut-grounded-clinton-while-the-price-took-off.html	Jan 13 00:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nytimes.com \| Haircut Grounded Clinton While the Price Took Off - New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gei45 ]	Jan 13 00:15
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3UIVJUW395JXN	Jan 13 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Xtian Taliban Fundie is shocked, SHOCKED to discover that gay people have the right to freedom of speech just like the bigot Phil Robertson. So, she freaks out and yanks her own book down to escape the onslaught of perfectly reasonable criticism. [ http://ur1.ca/gei9f ]	Jan 13 00:24
Sosumi	that is making it sound like gay ppl are not just a standard human being	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	Linda Harvey. "Maybe He's Not Gay!"	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	Maybe he's bi.	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	Or transgendered.	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	In fact, he could be putting on your make up and dressing up in your clothes while you're not at home! The underwear is a comfort thing. It really is. He swears.	Jan 13 00:25
Sosumi	I thought no underwear was the comfortable way	Jan 13 00:26
Sosumi	silly me	Jan 13 00:26
Sosumi	but those gay articles are kind of laughable	Jan 13 00:28
Sosumi	always	Jan 13 00:28
Sosumi	because at the end of the day	Jan 13 00:29
Sosumi	does it really matter? what a dude or dudete does?	Jan 13 00:29
Sosumi	I thought there were more important issues around	Jan 13 00:30
Sosumi	if it is about gay marriage, just legalize it	Jan 13 00:30
Sosumi	marries who wants to marry and that is it	Jan 13 00:30
Sosumi	period	Jan 13 00:30
Sosumi	no big deal	Jan 13 00:30
DaemonFC	I don't know what the big deal is.	Jan 13 00:31
DaemonFC	Women have found me attractive and I didn't recoil in horror over it.	Jan 13 00:31
DaemonFC	Or start acting weird.	Jan 13 00:32
Sosumi	lol, why would you start acting acting weird?	Jan 13 00:39
Sosumi	that of acting weird sounds like some pre-conceived idea taken from some dumb movie like "the american pie"	Jan 13 00:42
Sosumi	but if dealing with ppl is hard	Jan 13 00:49
Sosumi	there are always nice social eng. books	Jan 13 00:50
Sosumi	and psychology books	Jan 13 00:50
Sosumi	which may help in understanding the human psyche	Jan 13 00:51
Sosumi	but in the end folks will need to field test what they've learned	Jan 13 00:51
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Sosumi	so in the end it is like reading a kung-fu book without actually practicing it	Jan 13 00:53
Sosumi	:)	Jan 13 00:53
Sosumi	anyways GN	Jan 13 00:53
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mattl/status/422584624439521280 https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/422579344456679424	Jan 13 05:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@mattl: @mjg59 "What's the deal with @schestowitz anyway?"	Jan 13 05:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@mjg59: Still, overall, it's nice to have a third party confirm that I'm pretty good at comedy: https://t.co/JTLI1HRc6L	Jan 13 05:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Joke of the Day: #Microsoft ‘Freedom’ http://t.co/SaVhmz0W7s Matthew Garrett now a stand-up comedian.	Jan 13 05:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/422591821621907456	Jan 13 05:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@mjg59: @mattl Best comedy	Jan 13 05:36
schestowitz	now works for https://www.nebula.com/	Jan 13 05:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nebula.com \| Nebula One: World's First Cloud Computer. OpenStack Private Cloud	Jan 13 05:37
schestowitz	founded by "he forged partnerships with Google and Microsoft and helped create Google Moon, Google Mars, and Microsoft World Wide Telescope"	Jan 13 05:38
schestowitz	https://www.nebula.com/blog/2012/10/18/who-we-are-and-how-we-came-be/	Jan 13 05:43
schestowitz	"nebula.com/"	Jan 13 05:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nebula.com \| Nebula: Who We Are And How We Came To Be — Nebula One: World's First Cloud Computer. OpenStack Private Cloud [ http://ur1.ca/gemfu ]	Jan 13 05:43
schestowitz	"Several weeks later the trio formed stealth company “Fourth Paradigm Development”, a tribute to the influential ideas of Microsoft Researcher Dr. Jim Gray. In May, 2011 Nebula closed a Series-A investment led by Kleiner Perkins Caufield and Byers and Highland Capital Partners with participation from Google's first three investors Andy Bechtolsheim, Ram Shriram, and David Cheriton and several other high profile investors."	Jan 13 05:43
schestowitz	https://www.nebula.com/static/launch_press_release.pdf	Jan 13 05:45
schestowitz	"assembles team from NASA, Google, Amazon and Microsoft"	Jan 13 05:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	Netbooks http://t.co/jjyJb0sY51	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gemt4	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Dominated Apple At CES	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DAJfS26xTL	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gemt5	Jan 13 06:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For Netbooks \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab Enterprise Linux and Black Lab Linux	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	for Education released http://t.co/CVWlkCAXiE	Jan 13 06:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Dominated Apple At CES \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gemt6	Jan 13 06:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Black Lab Enterprise Linux and Black Lab Linux for Education released \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Core i3/i5/i7 Ubuntu Linux Performance	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	Update http://t.co/TTid7bTrNM	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gen6x	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Epic OpenShot 2.0 Update!(Part 2 of 3)	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NoM8NCFXNG	Jan 13 08:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel Core i3/i5/i7 Ubuntu Linux Performance Update \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gen6y	Jan 13 08:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Epic OpenShot 2.0 Update!(Part 2 of 3) \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 08:12
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 13 09:25
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iophk	http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-04-Is-More-Secure-Than-Windows-8-and-Mac-OS-X-Says-UK-Goverment-416016.shtml	Jan 13 13:59
TechrightsBot-tr	news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 12.04 Is More Secure Than Windows 8 and Mac OS X, Says UK Goverment [ http://ur1.ca/geor2 ]	Jan 13 13:59
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Sosumi	https://twitter.com/KeepingtheLeith/status/421857469103501312/photo/1	Jan 13 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@KeepingtheLeith: Jabhat al-Nusra....a gay rights supporter? This is one of the commanders of Jabhat al-Nusra...no further comment.... http://t.co/5RwCDiuA1W	Jan 13 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@KeepingtheLeith: Jabhat al-Nusra....a gay rights supporter? This is one of the commanders of Jabhat al-Nusra...no further comment.... http://t.co/5RwCDiuA1W	Jan 13 14:23
Sosumi	lawl	Jan 13 14:23
Sosumi	lawl^900000000000000000000	Jan 13 14:23
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Sosumi	male terrorists in drag with guns	Jan 13 14:25
Sosumi	couldn't make that up	Jan 13 14:26
Sosumi	when will bones's man kerry and warnuts maccain jump to defend the inflow of guns into the "rebels"	Jan 13 14:27
Sosumi	perhaps they, Kerry and Maccain, are in some kind of fetish I've never heard off	Jan 13 14:31
iophk	http://insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/UK-Gov-Report-Summary.pdf	Jan 13 14:45
iophk	restricted boot is mistakenly seen as a security enhancement there	Jan 13 14:46
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iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/01/12/jolla-review-some-rough-edges-but-this-linux-smartphone-shows-promise/	Jan 13 14:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gep2y ]	Jan 13 14:58
iophk	http://www.itworld.com/operating-systems/390781/unix-book-review-perl-one-liners	Jan 13 15:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itworld.com \| Unix: Book review -- Perl one-liners \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gep69 ]	Jan 13 15:18
iophk	old - http://ursecta.com/wp/2011/03/dr-dobbs-circling-the-drain/	Jan 13 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr	ursecta.com \| ursecta.com – Dr Dobbs circling the drain [ http://ur1.ca/gep8v ]	Jan 13 15:29
iophk	"not a classic Microsoft apologist" but another kind it appears	Jan 13 15:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.14 May Bring Big VMware GPU Driver	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Update http://t.co/912RvziWAB	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geql7	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/QHJzA24FXP	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.14 May Bring Big VMware GPU Driver Update \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/422806310145380352	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/LAfGVK1kKF	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geql9	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kali Linux 1.0.6 released. Cryptsetup has	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	“nuclear option” integrated	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NhPoPXlWxP	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geqla	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/qniBGzI1Fa	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Kali Linux 1.0.6 released. Cryptsetup has “nuclear option” integrated \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geqlb	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
Sosumi	and again, label me surprised on how a "free" game like xonotic can be so good	Jan 13 19:04
Sosumi	and I actually love the soundtrack on the levels	Jan 13 19:05
Sosumi	quite catchy tunes	Jan 13 19:05
MinceR	shouldn't be surprising	Jan 13 19:06
MinceR	free software can be pretty good; gratis mods for games also can be pretty good	Jan 13 19:07
Sosumi	but I am surprised nonetheless	Jan 13 19:09
Sosumi	and most free software has plenty of corporate backers	Jan 13 19:10
Sosumi	xonotic doesn't seem to the case	Jan 13 19:11
Sosumi	and that is why I'm surprised	Jan 13 19:11
Sosumi	because of how it turned out to be	Jan 13 19:12
Sosumi	without any sponsorship	Jan 13 19:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3513245	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by skywalker1977@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ece8a0a4fc294a1465ce.jpg	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	"Whoa! Where?"	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3513782	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: People trying to walk against the wind in Norway	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> imgur.com \| People trying to walk against the wind in Norway - Imgur	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	"The video version ;-) http://youtu.be/rKUipxR3bDc "	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Walkin' in the Wind: People blown over in streets as Storm Ivar hits Norway - YouTube	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3511244	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### #Profit is not a human value	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	"That is because you are a right-wing capitalist plain & simple, no matter what labels or flag color you adopt to conceal your true political orientation."	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	"Allrighty then."	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3514668	Jan 13 20:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best Email clients for Linux http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/best-email-clients-linux/19051 #gnu #linux	Jan 13 20:00
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Best Email clients for Linux \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/geqzf ]	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	"will there ever be a Worst linux email clients article ?"	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	Would be pointless because one can just make the list by making a crap app in one afternoon	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3510965	Jan 13 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/756628-7-reasons-android-will-grow-on-the-desktop/ #linux with many apps	Jan 13 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.linux.com \| 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow \| Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/geqzt ]	Jan 13 20:02
schestowitz	"Android, by itself, is fine. The problems are the proprietary Google applications generally bundled with it. We only need an easy tool to get rid of them and it would be a great improvement over Windows or OS X (although I still prefer to run completely Free Software OSses with no proprietary software installed by default)."	Jan 13 20:02
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3514668	Jan 13 20:04
schestowitz	"I was an expert in the field :-) I did miss some more information about crypto facilities ."	Jan 13 20:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Who's afraid of Linux, anyway?	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9kNplbyt6c	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger6x	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Client Side Decoration Improvements Land In	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	GTK+ http://t.co/8JwoPkbTVy	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger6y	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Who's afraid of Linux, anyway? \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Email clients for Linux	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pqk1sVu4rh	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger6z	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Client Side Decoration Improvements Land In GTK+ \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Email clients for Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	Smartphone Shows Promise http://t.co/qxODBXJSHw	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger70	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 Is More Secure Than Windows 8 and	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	Mac OS X, Says UK Government	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iFfPZQCPHo	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger72	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 12.04 Is More Secure Than Windows 8 and Mac OS X, Says UK Government \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3513664	Jan 13 21:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Monsanto in India https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/283704_431803686914913_779273093_n.jpg farming with poisons	Jan 13 21:04
schestowitz	"This is what people needs: poisonous food. Good job Monsanto!"	Jan 13 21:04
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKlQw00vJeA	Jan 13 21:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Monsanto Agent Orange - Vietnam - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gergn ]	Jan 13 21:05
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htQkVRF68qg&feature=related	Jan 13 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Monsanto: Bovine Growth Hormones, GMO Food and Pig Patent Applications - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gergy ]	Jan 13 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GTK3 Version Of Firefox Up For Fedora Testing	Jan 13 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aOTWCtmMba	Jan 13 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geri9	Jan 13 21:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GTK3 Version Of Firefox Up For Fedora Testing \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 21:13
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Gekko2010/status/422840033742454784	Jan 13 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@Gekko2010: @schestowitz It must be worrying that spying is being used more a political tool to discredit the intellectual opponents of the US.	Jan 13 21:41
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/new-leaks-offer-a-few-more-peeks-at-normandy-nokias-android-phone/	Jan 13 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| New leaks offer a few more peeks at “Normandy,” Nokia’s Android phone \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ges7e ]	Jan 13 22:52
Sosumi	so m$nokia going for android in order to coerce ppl into skype and outlook?	Jan 13 22:52
Sosumi	on the low end asha category	Jan 13 22:53
Sosumi	because winblows mobile is way too heavy	Jan 13 22:53
Sosumi	lol	Jan 13 22:53
Sosumi	those dirty tricks	Jan 13 22:53
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MinceR	gn	Jan 13 23:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 13.04 Received Its Last Major Kernel	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	Update http://t.co/wQZFL4AZSO	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/get7g	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Those Krazy Kids & KDE http://t.co/P1FKhl0LM7	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/get7h	Jan 14 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 13.04 Received Its Last Major Kernel Update \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Those Krazy Kids & KDE \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/71sDqvr7RX	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/get7i	Jan 14 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 01:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Are large screen Android phones destroying the	Jan 14 03:08
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone? http://t.co/1HUCGJKVsK	Jan 14 03:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Are large screen Android phones destroying the iPhone? \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 03:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/getmm	Jan 14 03:08
TweetTuxMachines	@kubuntuBR Kubuntu Brasil is out! http://t.co/nNS7RCfjHm	Jan 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines	Stories via @tuxmachines @aimee_maree @smashse	Jan 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gett8	Jan 14 03:45
TechrightsBot-tr	paper.li \| Kubuntu Brasil	Jan 14 03:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora 20 (Peach) hand-on: Even better than I	Jan 14 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	expected http://t.co/IdsfhfFimh	Jan 14 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geu6b	Jan 14 05:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora 20 (Peach) hand-on: Even better than I expected \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 05:09
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DaemonFC	KDE 4.12 cuts RAM usage.	Jan 14 05:39
DaemonFC	https://blogs.kde.org/2013/07/18/memory-usage-improvements-411	Jan 14 05:39
TechrightsBot-tr	blogs.kde.org \| Memory usage improvements for 4.11 \| blogs.kde.org [ http://ur1.ca/geuay ]	Jan 14 05:39
DaemonFC	kwin also seems to be using less RAM lately. Only about a fourth as much as kwin on KDE 4.10.	Jan 14 05:39
DaemonFC	I don't know why RHEL 7 is switching to XFS.	Jan 14 06:11
DaemonFC	That will make volumes harder to manage.	Jan 14 06:12
DaemonFC	You can't shrink one file system to make more room for another.	Jan 14 06:12
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 14 06:52
Sosumi	but weren't them all in love with btrfs?	Jan 14 06:53
Sosumi	*they	Jan 14 06:53
brendyn	k/close	Jan 14 07:03
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Jan 14 07:25
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jan 14 07:25
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DaemonFC	Firefox's memshrink project had weekly status reports for a long time about all the memory usage improvements they were making.	Jan 14 08:31
DaemonFC	It still uses too much.	Jan 14 08:31
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DaemonFC	shared a link via Android and Me.	Jan 14 09:03
DaemonFC	26 seconds ago	Jan 14 09:03
DaemonFC	http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/nokia-normandy-shown-in-the-wild-and-powered-on-in-latest-leaked-photos/	Jan 14 09:03
TechrightsBot-tr	androidandme.com \| Nokia Normandy shown in the wild and powered on in latest leaked photos \| Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gew09 ]	Jan 14 09:03
DaemonFC	Nobody should buy this phone. Microsoft is going to take over Nokia soon, so it should be obvious what they'll do to people who buy this phone. They'll either cut support for it entirely, or try to change it over to Windows Phone, which nobody really wants because it sucks.	Jan 14 09:04
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MinceR	also, those phones are likely to be crap anyway	Jan 14 09:08
DaemonFC	MinceR: It looks like it's an Android-based firmware that Nokia has given a new user interface that looks like Windows Phone.	Jan 14 09:10
DaemonFC	http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/nokia-normandy-budget-android-phone-purportedly-leaked-in-multiple-images-470858	Jan 14 09:10
TechrightsBot-tr	gadgets.ndtv.com \| Nokia 'Normandy' budget Android phone purportedly leaked in multiple images \| NDTV Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/gew1z ]	Jan 14 09:10
MinceR	and probably crippled to make winblows phony look good	Jan 14 09:10
MinceR	also, anyone who had a clue fled the company long ago	Jan 14 09:11
iophk	http://www.4-traders.com/MICROSOFT-CORPORATION-4835/news/Microsoft-Corporation--Foiled-How-to-beat-software-vendors-sneaky-price-increases-17805088/	Jan 14 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.4-traders.com \| Microsoft Corporation : Foiled! How to beat software vendors' sneaky price increases \| 4-Traders [ http://ur1.ca/gewqy ]	Jan 14 10:30
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/t/software-licensing/foiled-how-beat-software-vendors-sneaky-price-increases-233825	Jan 14 10:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Foiled! How to beat software vendors' sneaky price increases \| Software licensing - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gewra ]	Jan 14 10:31
iophk	missing the option for FOSS there in the article	Jan 14 10:31
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/eu-offers-public-a-chance-to-fix-copyright-law-140113/	Jan 14 11:19
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| EU Offers Public a Chance to Fix Copyright Law \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gex5r ]	Jan 14 11:19
iophk	old	Jan 14 11:19
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iophk	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/quarkxpress-the-demise-of-a-design-desk-darling/	Jan 14 11:22
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| How QuarkXPress became a mere afterthought in publishing \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gex6q ]	Jan 14 11:22
iophk	"CEO Fred Ebrahimi salted the wounds by taunting users to switch to Windows if they didn’t like it"	Jan 14 11:24
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/rip-information-security-done-in-backdoors-and-secret-deals-233989	Jan 14 11:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| RIP, information security, done in by backdoors and secret deals \| Data Center - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gex8i ]	Jan 14 11:29
iophk	product placement : http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/shaw-thing/62793-microsoft-on-the-ascent-%E2%80%93-it-is-cool-to-be-a-nerd	Jan 14 11:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itwire.com \| Microsoft on the ascent – it is cool to be a nerd [ http://ur1.ca/gex9d ]	Jan 14 11:32
MinceR	geekings	Jan 14 11:43
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	The breeders have absolutely no sense of humor at all. I think I have a right to use that word based on how many times I've heard the breeders use the word "gay" to describe something they don't like.	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	Also, I had a breeder call me a dirty ****** one day, so I looked at him and said "No, I'm a clean one. Have a nice day!".	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	If I can take that without becoming irate, which is their whole reason for using that word, then I think I should be able to use a word that I think describes them doing something that I don't like. Besides, it adequately describes what they spend their whole life doing. Having children. Getting them diagnosed with ass burgers, and then when they grow up there are no jobs because more people reproduced than was necessary to fill the workforce, an	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	every three breeder couples has their brood living with them until they're in their 30s.	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	I think the whole thing is menacing, but one birth in particular is not noteworthy. I find it more interesting to read the obituaries.	Jan 14 13:39
iophk	http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fullerton-cops-aquitted-homeless-man-death-article-1.1578808	Jan 14 13:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nydailynews.com \| Fullerton police officers not guilty in homeless man’s death, prosecutors won’t try 3rd cop - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/geyc1 ]	Jan 14 13:43
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUlMmT1zWTM	Jan 14 13:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| VHEMT - Fertco - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/geycw ]	Jan 14 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Catch up on http://t.co/Px6mNbK9q1 2014	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cpgfCwJxfr	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	Linux.conf.au \| linux.conf.au	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgv	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME: Key to Linux Desktop Unification?	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6cHnegVWLM	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgw	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top Android and Linux devices from CES	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Wn54EzV2Pp	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Catch up on Linux.conf.au 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgx	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME: Key to Linux Desktop Unification? \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Top Android and Linux devices from CES \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nameless Fedora 21 Linux Is an Opportunity for	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	Growth http://t.co/Y3zeKgFARQ	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgy	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Nameless Fedora 21 Linux Is an Opportunity for Growth \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 15:25
DaemonFC	Fedora 20 is quite good.	Jan 14 15:38
DaemonFC	Both the KDE and GNOME versions.	Jan 14 15:38
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/patent-trolls-target-their-next-victim-cloud-computing-233944	Jan 14 15:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Patent trolls target their next victim: Cloud computing \| Open Source Software - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gezls ]	Jan 14 15:38
iophk	http://www.tomshardware.com/news/mozilla-firefox-government-backdoor-security,25737.html	Jan 14 15:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tomshardware.com \| Mozilla: Firefox Has No Government Backdoors [ http://ur1.ca/gezma ]	Jan 14 15:40
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/14/eich_urges_open_source_surveillance_audits/	Jan 14 15:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| Mozilla CTO Eich: If your browser isn't open source (ahem, ahem, IE, Chrome, Safari), DON'T TRUST IT • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gezmn ]	Jan 14 15:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines For Systems Administrators, GNU/Linux (and	Jan 14 16:05
TweetTuxMachines	UNIX) Becomes Key Skill http://t.co/VRxvJwKiE9	Jan 14 16:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezuj	Jan 14 16:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| For Systems Administrators, GNU/Linux (and UNIX) Becomes Key Skill \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 16:05
DaemonFC	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/14/eich_urges_open_source_surveillance_audits/	Jan 14 16:15
DaemonFC	Mozilla isn't the best way to browse the web, it's just the only way to browse the web.	Jan 14 16:15
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 14 16:15
MinceR	:>	Jan 14 16:16
Sosumi	internet explorer ftw :P	Jan 14 16:43
MinceR	what has that got to do with browsing the web? :>	Jan 14 16:43
iophk	http://gizmodo.com/federal-court-invalidates-net-neutrality-rules-sides-w-1501028467	Jan 14 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr	gizmodo.com \| Federal Court Strikes Down Net Neutrality Rules, Sides with Big Telecom [ http://ur1.ca/gf09f ]	Jan 14 16:46
MinceR	http://imgur.com/BbpOch8	Jan 14 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr	imgur.com \| A monument in honor of Brazilian corruption - Imgur	Jan 14 16:46
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MinceR	> "Like the famous mad philosopher said, when you stare into the void, the void stares also; but if you cast into the void, you get a	Jan 14 16:57
MinceR	type conversion error. (Which just goes to show Nietzsche wasn't a C++ programmer.)"	Jan 14 16:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On Desktop Environments http://t.co/dV9gmRW9w0	Jan 14 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf0uy	Jan 14 17:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| On Desktop Environments \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 17:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora Claimed Better Fedora Than Fedora, and	Jan 14 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	It’s Growing! http://t.co/8IdwV8fWkF	Jan 14 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf17d	Jan 14 18:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora Claimed Better Fedora Than Fedora, and It’s Growing! \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 18:18
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iophk	http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tortured-britons-cannot-sue-saudi-arabia-1432256	Jan 14 18:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.co.uk \| 'Tortured' Britons Cannot Sue Saudi Arabia [ http://ur1.ca/gf19l ]	Jan 14 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/sZv7Obbrhi	Jan 14 19:01
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 19:01
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3514668	Jan 14 19:50
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TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best Email clients for Linux http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/best-email-clients-linux/19051 #gnu #linux	Jan 14 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Best Email clients for Linux \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/geqzf ]	Jan 14 19:50
schestowitz__	"Mutt Mutt Mutt Mutt :-) Reading that, it's sad to see how poorly rated Kmail was. I don't generally use GUI mail clients, but it had (3.0-ish) impressed me, along with the rest of the Kontact suite. I've also had some pretty good experiences with Zimbra for both Webmail and as an IMAP provider."	Jan 14 19:50
schestowitz__	"@André Koot: Microsoft Outlook under WINE. Worst. Mail. App. Ever."	Jan 14 19:50
iophk	http://www.zdnet.com/net-neutrality-gets-a-kick-in-the-teeth-7000025154/	Jan 14 19:59
iophk	the head of the FCC has ties to cable and might not fight the decision	Jan 14 19:59
iophk	a lot of strange spin is coming from some quarters: http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140114-909707.html	Jan 14 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zdnet.com \| Net neutrality gets a kick in the teeth \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gf1t1 ]	Jan 14 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Open Internet Ruling: No Change for Consumers' Ability to Access and Use the Internet - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf1t3 ]	Jan 14 19:59
iophk	http://linuxgizmos.com/google-acquires-nest-gains-linux-based-iot-tech/	Jan 14 20:12
iophk	http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/01/google-and-internet-things	Jan 14 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr	linuxgizmos.com \| Google acquires Nest, gains Linux IoT tech · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf1yj ]	Jan 14 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.economist.com \| Google and the internet of things: Feathering its Nest \| The Economist [ http://ur1.ca/gf1yk ]	Jan 14 20:12
schestowitz__	iophk: murdoch	Jan 14 20:13
iophk	yep	Jan 14 20:13
schestowitz__	. http://ur1.ca/gf1yc	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	http://ur1.ca/gf1ym	Jan 14 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: It was #sky that recently, in the #uk , 'softly' banned TorrentFreak, a news site accused of doing no wrong.	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	http://ur1.ca/gf1yc	Jan 14 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Rupert #murdoch and other #propaganda moguls benefit from tied Web, which they use to suppress or #censor alternative messages	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	I posted the prior links too	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	just catching up	Jan 14 20:14
iophk	he's also part of the M$ chorus	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	you can see in context in twitter.com	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	iophk: he hates Golg	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	They have news syndicators	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	and these include his competition, inc. foreign	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	e.g. English-speaking Russian and Farsi news	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	And often they blast his propaganda intruments	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	not just publications	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	but messages too	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	Showing them to be what they are: propaganda	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	He's used to controlling info, Google is a threat to this Power	Jan 14 20:16
iophk	He's gotten a lot of the cable networks	Jan 14 20:17
iophk	The Internet deals a problem to those depending on (artificial) scarcity and being a bottleneck	Jan 14 20:26
iophk	There were probably more than a few examples from the Gutenberg printing press days where governments / kings controlled who could run a press.	Jan 14 20:28
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iophk	http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/	Jan 14 21:01
iophk	"Reeves was instrumental in establishing the police department's first Tactical Response Team."	Jan 14 21:01
iophk	thus the attitude	Jan 14 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.cnn.com \| Bond denied for ex-cop who allegedly shot texting dad - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf32a ]	Jan 14 21:01
iophk	http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=69&doc_id=1320638	Jan 14 21:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eetimes.com \| Stars of Open-Source in China, Says Hacker 'Bunnie' Huang \| EE Times [ http://ur1.ca/gf34x ]	Jan 14 21:06
iophk	http://makezine.com/magazine/building-an-open-source-laptop/	Jan 14 21:08
iophk	http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3597	Jan 14 21:08
TechrightsBot-tr	makezine.com \| Building an Open Source Laptop \| MAKE [ http://ur1.ca/gdbgy ]	Jan 14 21:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bunniestudios.com \| Make: Article on Novena « bunnie's blog [ http://ur1.ca/gdev0 ]	Jan 14 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google acquires Nest, gains Linux IoT tech	Jan 14 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RwYB0mwCsy	Jan 14 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf370	Jan 14 21:11
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Google acquires Nest, gains Linux IoT tech \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 21:11
iophk	"We think it may be reasonable to kick off the campaign shortly after Chinese New Year, maybe late February or March. " -- so a second one to look for in February.	Jan 14 21:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux powered Chromebook Raffle	Jan 14 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/s0FEpUvnQ4	Jan 14 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf3rv	Jan 14 21:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Bodhi Linux powered Chromebook Raffle \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Top 7 Best Linux Distros for 2014	Jan 14 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YRX5Yf445H	Jan 14 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf3rw	Jan 14 21:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Top 7 Best Linux Distros for 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 21:56
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3516274]	Jan 14 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Humanos	Jan 14 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by atari130xe@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e22594887a25bd109e8f.jpeg	Jan 14 22:08
schestowitz__	""News of my death has been greatly exaggerated" Samuel Leghorn Clemens. I had occasion to quote this to the bursar upon visiting my old school in Oxford, who had me down as dead !"	Jan 14 22:08
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3517315	Jan 14 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs http://linuxgizmos.com/linux-friendly-mini-pc-goes-haswell/ the computer used for #linuxmint quite famously. #gnu #linux	Jan 14 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	-> linuxgizmos.com \| Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf3x6 ]	Jan 14 22:08
schestowitz__	"I could buy one if they had it with an AMD processor"	Jan 14 22:08
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3504391	Jan 14 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Losing all sensitivities, torturing and killing without guilt. http://www.today.com/news/ex-cia-lawyer-waterboarding-my-conscience-clear-2D11896354 the #cia wants YOU!	Jan 14 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.today.com \| Ex-CIA lawyer on waterboarding: 'My conscience is clear' - TODAY.com [ http://ur1.ca/gducv ]	Jan 14 22:09
schestowitz__	"I wouldn't say that the media belongs to the government directly... but it does belong to private shareholders, and if you look, some of the largest shareholders have also had positions in government at some level or another, so it's largely a semantic difference."	Jan 14 22:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CyanogenMod launches new Gallery App	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cP76TC2wgD	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/423233628370251776	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/Px6mNbK9q1, Linux Darling, and More	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| CyanogenMod launches new Gallery App \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	Linux List http://t.co/SqAxkXMDUO	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hh	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	Linux.conf.au \| linux.conf.au	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Updates SteamOS With CPU/GPU	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux.conf.au, Linux Darling, and More Linux List \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	Optimizations http://t.co/6qYhVJNLgA	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hi	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Academy Expands Training, Includes	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Valve Updates SteamOS With CPU/GPU Optimizations \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	OpenStack Coursework http://t.co/b50TKoZURX	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hj	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Academy Expands Training, Includes OpenStack Coursework \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Non-Linux FOSS: Persistence of Vision Raytracer	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	(POV-Ray) http://t.co/dMIqmpuhi4	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hk	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Non-Linux FOSS: Persistence of Vision Raytracer (POV-Ray) \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3519031	Jan 14 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NY Times reporter fighting order to reveal his #CIA sources http://www.thejournal.ie/nyt-writer-fights-order-telling-him-to-reveal-his-sources-1264152-Jan2014/ http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/01/14/new-york-times-reporter-resisting-obama-administrations-attack-on-the-press-heads-to-supreme-court/ http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140114/ny-times-reporter-appeals-top-us-court-leak-case	Jan 14 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thejournal.ie \| NY Times reporter fighting order to reveal his CIA sources [ http://ur1.ca/gf4lm ]	Jan 14 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> dissenter.firedoglake.com \| New York Times Reporter James Risen, Fighting Obama Administration’s Attack on the Press, Turns to Supreme Court \| The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/gf4ln ]	Jan 14 23:49
schestowitz__	"	Jan 14 23:49
schestowitz__	LOL, what an easy way to put someone in jail. Have a fake leak, then demand the name of the leaker.	Jan 14 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.globalpost.com \| NY Times reporter appeals to top US court in leak case \| GlobalPost [ http://ur1.ca/gf4lo ]	Jan 14 23:49
schestowitz__	Newspapers should compartmentalize this knowledge somehow. Perhaps one person should make sure the person is who they say they are and another does the interview without knowing who did the fact check and who they are interviewing other than what they are. That way no one knows who said what but everyone knows things are fact checked. There would still be some risk to those who do the ID checking but the task can be distributed so	Jan 14 23:49
schestowitz__	that everyone would have to be put in jail to reveal a source.	Jan 14 23:49
schestowitz__	"	Jan 14 23:49
schestowitz__	The Hammong case seemed a bit like a setup, somewhat of a Sting Op like those which the FBI uses to manufacture "threat" and then get budget to fight bogus plots it creates (by offering bombs)	Jan 14 23:50
schestowitz__	Hammond	Jan 14 23:50
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3518667	Jan 14 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mozilla: Firefox Has No Government Backdoors http://www.tomshardware.com/news/mozilla-firefox-government-backdoor-security,25737.html no similar statement from #microsoft #apple #google	Jan 14 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.tomshardware.com \| Mozilla: Firefox Has No Government Backdoors [ http://ur1.ca/gezma ]	Jan 14 23:51
schestowitz__	"@Herzmeister - When I said about never seeing the source code from "them" I was referring to MS / Apple, not Mozilla. The fact that source is available for FF is exactly my point."	Jan 14 23:51
schestowitz__	"use Abrowser... it's the one that comes with Trsiquel GNU/Linux... fully free (as in freedom) software. Abrowser is just like firefox but only with free as in freedom add-ons"	Jan 14 23:51
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MinceR	gn	Jan 15 00:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Make: Article on Novena http://t.co/3QIfMNPHU9	Jan 15 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4wv	Jan 15 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What I Saw on the CES Show Floor: Your Work on	Jan 15 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	Display http://t.co/QuHFOvugIQ	Jan 15 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4ww	Jan 15 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical posts a $21 million loss – is	Jan 15 00:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Make: Article on Novena \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu’s future doomed? http://t.co/OwK8FKCoxk	Jan 15 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4wx	Jan 15 00:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| What I Saw on the CES Show Floor: Your Work on Display \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good Bye Mandriva http://t.co/w4Ly9pcGtH	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4wy	Jan 15 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical posts a $21 million loss – is Ubuntu’s future doomed? \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Good Bye Mandriva \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam Dev Days show plan for Valve-owned	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	future, and Microsoft should be terrified	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KfV85zgA2t	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4x0	Jan 15 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Steam Dev Days show plan for Valve-owned future, and Microsoft should be terrified \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:55
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lirodon	http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/index.xml	Jan 15 01:11
TechrightsBot-tr	www.finegael.ie \| O’Donovan calls for crackdown on internet browsers and payment systems which facilitate illegal activity [ http://ur1.ca/gf50l ]	Jan 15 01:11
lirodon	Do they even know how the internet works	Jan 15 01:11
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Sosumi	I think coinye is dead	Jan 15 07:07
Sosumi	because of Kanye's West lawsuit	Jan 15 07:10
MinceR	(javascript) http://nullifynsa.com/	Jan 15 07:28
TechrightsBot-tr	nullifynsa.com \| Nullify NSA! \|Nullify NSA!	Jan 15 07:28
MinceR	http://www.ibtimes.com/reddit-mozilla-others-protest-nsa-spying-honor-aaron-swartz-day-we-fight-back-1538148	Jan 15 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| Reddit, Mozilla And Others To Protest NSA Spying, Honor Aaron Swartz On 'The Day We Fight Back' [ http://ur1.ca/gf7ft ]	Jan 15 07:40
MinceR	http://bgr.com/2014/01/14/net-neutrality-court-ruling/	Jan 15 07:55
TechrightsBot-tr	bgr.com \| Net neutrality court ruling: Net neutrality killed \| BGR [ http://ur1.ca/gf7im ]	Jan 15 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Homemade Raspberry Pi tablet, PiPad, with wood	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	finish and Linux OS will set your sweet tooth	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	tingling http://t.co/0hiLLu4FKt	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf7n6	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DA223 HQL: Acer’s all-in-one Android PC has a	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	Snapdragon 600 inside http://t.co/kzS1mGY94T	Jan 15 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Homemade Raspberry Pi tablet, PiPad, with wood finish and Linux OS will set your sweet tooth tingling \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf7n7	Jan 15 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| DA223 HQL: Acer’s all-in-one Android PC has a Snapdragon 600 inside \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 08:14
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iophk	outrecurve is calling users 'freeloaders'	Jan 15 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apache Foundation and Linux Foundation join	Jan 15 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	forces for ApacheCon http://t.co/OxIYAHA9hN	Jan 15 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8fq	Jan 15 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny ARM9 box-PC adds wireless options	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aHSVtrJaLJ	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8fr	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 13.12 released http://t.co/SP3KcjPZwt	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8fs	Jan 15 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Apache Foundation and Linux Foundation join forces for ApacheCon \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Tiny ARM9 box-PC adds wireless options \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	Searches by Default http://t.co/NO9ywSahdb	Jan 15 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Netrunner 13.12 released \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8ft	Jan 15 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Home control hub offers Siri-like voice	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	assistant http://t.co/j5PHsBTftV	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8fv	Jan 15 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Home control hub offers Siri-like voice assistant \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
iophk	http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/	Jan 15 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.finegael.ie \| O’Donovan calls for crackdown on internet browsers and payment systems which facilitate illegal activity [ http://ur1.ca/gf8gj ]	Jan 15 09:41
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iophk	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57617242-94/why-you-should-care-about-net-neutrality-faq/	Jan 15 12:52
TechrightsBot-tr	news.cnet.com \| Why you should care about Net neutrality (FAQ) \| Mobile - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gfaee ]	Jan 15 12:52
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MinceR	apparently obomber promised net neutrality in 2008	Jan 15 12:58
iophk	Is it gone from his campaign site?	Jan 15 13:04
MinceR	haven't checked yet	Jan 15 13:07
MinceR	seen it in an index.hu article, i've found more mentions of it since	Jan 15 13:12
MinceR	http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/510/support-network-neutrality-on-the-internet/	Jan 15 13:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.politifact.com \| The Obameter: Support network neutrality on the Internet \| PolitiFact [ http://ur1.ca/gfamc ]	Jan 15 13:12
MinceR	funny how they say it was kept	Jan 15 13:12
iophk	kept for how long? ...	Jan 15 13:12
MinceR	it seems that they promised it here: http://change.gov/agenda/technology_agenda/	Jan 15 13:13
TechrightsBot-tr	change.gov \| Technology \| Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team [ http://ur1.ca/gfamz ]	Jan 15 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Rc8mENHkWc	Jan 15 13:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfaou	Jan 15 13:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 13:17
iophk	"Protect the Openness of the Internet: Support the principle of network neutrality to preserve the benefits of open competition on the Internet. "	Jan 15 13:31
iophk	http://www.technologyreview.com/news/523606/net-neutrality-quashed-new-pricing-schemes-throttling-and-business-models-to-follow/	Jan 15 13:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.technologyreview.com \| Net Neutrality Quashing Will Mean New Pricing Schemes, Throttling, and Business Models \| MIT Technology Review [ http://ur1.ca/gfaz8 ]	Jan 15 13:37
iophk	double-billing would soon be allowed	Jan 15 13:37
iophk	once each for sender and receiver	Jan 15 13:37
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1554567_572745599485165_845563793_n.jpg	Jan 15 13:42
MinceR	:>	Jan 15 13:45
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/10774_572843132808745_1668944748_n.jpg	Jan 15 13:52
DaemonFC	What the water in West Virginia looks like right now because of "Freedom Industries".	Jan 15 13:52
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Sosumi	that's nothing	Jan 15 13:54
Sosumi	thanks to fracking you can even set fire to the water	Jan 15 13:55
Sosumi	http://www.naturalgaswatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/flaming_water.jpg	Jan 15 13:55
Sosumi	that is free trade/free market and lack of proper government oversight	Jan 15 13:57
Sosumi	and in the end, the lack of a proper government	Jan 15 13:57
Sosumi	which allows big corps to run amok doing what pleases them	Jan 15 13:58
Sosumi	http://yubanet.com/uploads/2/betterinsomalia.jpg	Jan 15 14:03
Sosumi	sad, but true	Jan 15 14:04
MinceR	(gore) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuKV2Z3eYTY	Jan 15 14:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| FIST OF JESUS - visit www.fistofjesus.com - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/dphqa ]	Jan 15 14:07
Sosumi	it is age restricted :(	Jan 15 14:14
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 14:16
Sosumi	http://www.tonymacx86.com/mac-pro-mods/120757-mac-pro-late-2013-replica.html	Jan 15 14:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tonymacx86.com \| Mac Pro (late 2013) replica [ http://ur1.ca/gfbj0 ]	Jan 15 14:19
Sosumi	still better than the real	Jan 15 14:20
MinceR	about as ugly, though	Jan 15 14:20
Sosumi	I can only think of it as an oversized dildo or a buttplug	Jan 15 14:21
Sosumi	sry, but that is the truth	Jan 15 14:21
MinceR	:>	Jan 15 14:22
Guest2767	lol	Jan 15 14:28
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iophk	http://www.mercurynews.com/troy-wolverton/ci_24912880/wolverton-say-goodbye-internet-weve-known	Jan 15 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.mercurynews.com \| Wolverton: Say goodbye to the Internet we've known - San Jose Mercury News [ http://ur1.ca/gfbtp ]	Jan 15 14:44
iophk	bizarre - http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303848104579308313402913926	Jan 15 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Robert McDowell: A Victory for an Unfettered Internet - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfbvy ]	Jan 15 14:49
schestowitz	cheers	Jan 15 15:02
schestowitz	posted those two	Jan 15 15:02
schestowitz	I will do another post about net neutrality another day	Jan 15 15:02
iophk	probably worth mentioning Murdoch and co in that too.	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	right now the FP (8 posts) is today's articles, should I do more than 8 per day?	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	yes, I put that in the draft already	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	He's also mentioned in today's post about net neutrality	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	but it's not just him	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	earlier you linked to CNET	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	It was a weaik article, but then again CNET=CBS, Comcast etc.	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	I.e. cable companies	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	FAQ a wolf in sheep clothing	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	Media should rips apart this decision	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	but it doesn't	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	it's good for the big corporations, which also own mass media	Jan 15 15:04
iophk	yes, they are owned by the cable companies or those with interest against NN	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	Google is the exception, but Google decided to appease the ones at the tip, esp. after YouTube took off	Jan 15 15:05
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/net-neutrality-blown/	Jan 15 15:05
iophk	Did they bring in new people at that point, some who changed the company?	Jan 15 15:05
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| US Courts Are Cementing the Gradual Death of the World Wide Web (As We Know It) \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfc1o ]	Jan 15 15:05
schestowitz	Maybe, lawyers for example	Jan 15 15:12
schestowitz	ANd lobbyists, who are usually laywyers also	Jan 15 15:12
iophk	(05:03:13 PM) schestowitz: right now the FP (8 posts) is today's articles, should I do more than 8 per day?	Jan 15 15:18
iophk	8 per day is probably wise if there are a lot of people coming via the main page	Jan 15 15:18
iophk	If most are coming from elsewhere, then it might not matter so much.	Jan 15 15:18
schestowitz	http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/01/15/with-its-net-neutrality-case-against-verizon-the-fcc-loses-again/	Jan 15 15:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| With Its 'Net Neutrality' Case Against Verizon, The FCC Loses -- Again - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gfcel ]	Jan 15 15:32
schestowitz	Not just a matter of FP	Jan 15 15:33
schestowitz	Some might be seeing too many "unreads" in RSS	Jan 15 15:33
schestowitz	Maybe now is a good time for daily links batches	Jan 15 15:33
schestowitz	300k bytes worth in my drafts	Jan 15 15:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Taking the long view: Why I'm moving to CentOS	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	Linux on the desktop http://t.co/ZIdUu8g2xM	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg3	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	devices in Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/fRlie4ImXC	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg5	Jan 15 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Taking the long view: Why I'm moving to CentOS Linux on the desktop \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus devices in Ubuntu Touch \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines No Ubuntu Touch phones before 2015, Canonical	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	manager warns http://t.co/ovAcGahBGB	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg6	Jan 15 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| No Ubuntu Touch phones before 2015, Canonical manager warns \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	@fakenowee @tuxmachines http://t.co/8ZoqsQcqD2	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg8	Jan 15 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	301 redirect without Location header	Jan 15 15:35
schestowitz	iophk: http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/linux-domination-in-devices/	Jan 15 15:41
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Latest Examples of Linux Domination in Devices/Embedded Systems \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfck2 ]	Jan 15 15:41
iophk	thks	Jan 15 15:44
iophk	The feed sees a little behind though	Jan 15 15:46
iophk	maybe that's just caching	Jan 15 15:47
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/rise-of-gnu-linux/	Jan 15 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Links: Rise of GNU/Linux in the News \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfcq5 ]	Jan 15 15:50
schestowitz	caching, probably	Jan 15 15:50
schestowitz	varnish	Jan 15 15:50
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MinceR	http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3238	Jan 15 16:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.smbc-comics.com \| Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal	Jan 15 16:10
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521482	Jan 15 16:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@meneer@pod.orkz.net: Dutch government advises to cover your webcam, here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i841CamEX3o (Dutch gov notification: http://nos.nl/video/597900-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html )	Jan 15 16:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Webcam [Official Short Film] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4a ]	Jan 15 16:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> nos.nl \| Justitie: plak je webcam af - NOS Nieuws [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4b ]	Jan 15 16:30
schestowitz	They assume you use Windows	Jan 15 16:30
Sosumi	windows are great	Jan 15 16:52
Sosumi	you open them in the morning	Jan 15 16:52
Sosumi	and let fresh air in	Jan 15 16:52
Sosumi	:P	Jan 15 16:52
schestowitz	windows makers should sue Microsoft	Jan 15 17:01
schestowitz	!google spam company sues over name	Jan 15 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Daniel Balsam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Balsam	Jan 15 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - LinkedIn Sues After Scraping Of User Data - InformationWeek \| http://www.informationweek.com/software/social/linkedin-sues-after-scraping-of-user-data/d/d-id/1113362	Jan 15 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Man quits job, makes living suing spammers - Technology & science ... \| http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40812560/ns/technology_and_science-security/	Jan 15 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Chattanooga philanthropist sued over spam text messages \| Times ... \| http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jul/31/local-payday-lending-businesses-face-lawsuit/	Jan 15 17:01
schestowitz	don't know how to search for it	Jan 15 17:02
schestowitz	but the original product, spam, had its company sue over the name	Jan 15 17:02
Sosumi	:)	Jan 15 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Techrights Links Roundups	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9rKtQKlmNv	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfdic	Jan 15 17:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Techrights Links Roundups \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Launches Test Drives on AWS	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KmejfHjnOt	Jan 15 17:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Launches Test Drives on AWS \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/423502364725633025	Jan 15 17:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423505882031595520	Jan 15 17:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Jacob Appelbaum's talk made it sound as though #Nightstand was a rarely used tool, not attached to ~100,000 nodes/points.	Jan 15 17:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lastwheel/status/423506122717143041	Jan 15 17:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@lastwheel: .@schestowitz @RancidTarzie ^ Drip, drip, drip.	Jan 15 17:28
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schestowitz__	"use Abrowser... it's the one that comes wThey are, by the way, but their genius is in marketing and shrewd and rapid idea theft more than innovation."7"ith Trsiquel GNU/Linux... fully free (as in freedom) software. Abrowser is just like firefox but only with free as in freedom add-ons"	Jan 15 18:02
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3518348	Jan 15 18:02
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Are large screen Android phones destroying the iPhone? http://m.itworld.com/open-source/399832/are-large-screen-android-phones-destroying-iphone	Jan 15 18:02
TechrightsBot-tr	-> m.itworld.com \| Are large screen Android phones destroying the iPhone? \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gfe2v ]	Jan 15 18:03
schestowitz__	"Meh. Apple will bring out the "iPhone+" or whatever next with no changes but a bigger screen, and all the party faithful will chant in unison how revolutionary it is and that Apple is a genius of a company."	Jan 15 18:03
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520351	Jan 15 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Home control hub offers Siri-like voice assistant http://linuxgizmos.com/home-automation-hub-offers-siri-like-voice-assistant/ linux based	Jan 15 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	-> linuxgizmos.com \| Home control hub offers Siri-like voice assistant · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfe33 ]	Jan 15 18:03
schestowitz__	wo ist der Haken? Min Bauchgefühl sagt "Haken""77"	Jan 15 18:03
schestowitz__	"was macht man damit so?"	Jan 15 18:04
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3519530	Jan 15 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical posts a $21 million loss – is Ubuntu’s future doomed? http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/canonical-posts-21-million-loss-ubuntus-future-doomed/19370 http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/ubuntu-maker-boosted-revenue-in-2013-but-doubled-loss-to-21-million/ #canonical #ubuntu	Jan 15 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Canonical posts a $21 million loss - is Ubuntu's future doomed? \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gf7mf ]	Jan 15 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr	-> arstechnica.com \| Ubuntu maker boosted revenue in 2013 but doubled loss to $21 million \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfe6v ]	Jan 15 18:11
schestowitz__	Get tied up with anti-publishers, go straight to the bottom. Your revenues may rise but they won't meet your cost because the game is rigged."77"	Jan 15 18:11
schestowitz__	"#Karma"	Jan 15 18:12
schestowitz__	"“the UK report is not a representation of the situation of Canonical across our global operations” and "One of the biggest revenue earners in the past year has been China.""	Jan 15 18:12
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Sosumi	just finished watching "her"	Jan 15 18:14
Sosumi	from a review sample that was available on the pbay	Jan 15 18:15
Sosumi	my thoughts on the thing	Jan 15 18:15
Sosumi	I've said it before that the future of OS's would be in the form of "personal assistant"	Jan 15 18:16
Sosumi	think of it like apple's siri on steroids	Jan 15 18:16
Sosumi	but aside the dumb plot about a social inept dude	Jan 15 18:17
Sosumi	everything there can be taken or derived from ghost in the shell	Jan 15 18:17
Sosumi	and believe me, it has a much better plot	Jan 15 18:18
Sosumi	jeaun braudilard's simulacra and simulacrum can be also put in the contest	Jan 15 18:19
Sosumi	as well norbert wiener's cybernetics and its forks	Jan 15 18:19
Sosumi	in the end, so much fuss for nothing	Jan 15 18:20
Sosumi	50 out of 100 just for the effort	Jan 15 18:21
Sosumi	plus one thing that I found extremely retarded	Jan 15 18:23
Sosumi	if the AI in the movie has enough processing power available, not locally, since all you see are the example of dumb terminals	Jan 15 18:24
Sosumi	as well the capacity to optimize itself and learn	Jan 15 18:25
Sosumi	why wouldn't it design a body for itself? overcoming that way all limitations of being confined just in the digital sphere but also at the mercy of a power outage	Jan 15 18:26
Sosumi	or data corruption	Jan 15 18:26
Sosumi	and keeping in that body a copy of itself	Jan 15 18:27
Sosumi	3d printing biological tissue is coming sooner or later	Jan 15 18:27
Sosumi	dumb, dumb and mind numbingly boring	Jan 15 18:28
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/critical-microsoft-adobe-and-oracle-updates-like-dental-floss-for-your-pc/	Jan 15 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Critical Microsoft, Adobe, and Oracle updates: Like dental floss for your PC \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfee6 ]	Jan 15 18:29
Sosumi	also don't forget to update your winblows and OSsuX	Jan 15 18:29
MinceR	get the latest security holes	Jan 15 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla just got its first Firefox OS tablets	Jan 15 18:47
TweetTuxMachines	from Foxconn http://t.co/PYPeIiWyj4	Jan 15 18:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfejd	Jan 15 18:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla just got its first Firefox OS tablets from Foxconn \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 18:47
Sosumi	no	Jan 15 18:50
Sosumi	the latest NSA/CIA/GCHQ/etc. backdoors	Jan 15 18:51
MinceR	that too	Jan 15 18:53
schestowitz__	gotta catch those child pr0n perverts...	Jan 15 18:56
schestowitz__	!google nsa watches porn habits	Jan 15 18:56
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits As Part ... \| http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.html	Jan 15 18:56
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - NSA spied on porn habits, HuffPo reports - USA Today \| http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/27/nsa-spied-porn-habits/3765279/	Jan 15 18:56
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - NSA 'spied on porn habits to target radicalisers' \| World news ... \| http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/27/nsa-files-live-coverage-developments-reaction	Jan 15 18:56
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Report: NSA tracks online porn habits to discredit Muslim ... \| http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/11/27/nsa-records-onlinesexualactivitypornhabitsofmuslimradicalizers.html	Jan 15 18:56
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520541	Jan 15 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: “Normandy” is Not an #Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced #Surveillance Device http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/turning-users-into-products/ #Trojan horse measuring as a phone	Jan 15 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| “Normandy” is Not an Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced Surveillance Device \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfem4 ]	Jan 15 18:57
schestowitz__	"OT: One of the things I like about your website is that no matter how disgusting the disclosures in the articles are, there's alway a happily smiling guy with a cup of coffee next to them :-)"	Jan 15 18:57
schestowitz__	Haha, gotta stay positive	Jan 15 18:57
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 18:58
schestowitz__	Sounds like it'll be a flop. ... Why buy this one when the next shelf has an array of Samsung Androind phones that work.	Jan 15 18:58
Sosumi	http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs31/f/2008/222/e/3/Lolimon_Gotta_catch_em_all_by_larskri.jpg	Jan 15 18:58
schestowitz__	(not that any cellphone isn't a tracking device these days)	Jan 15 18:58
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 18:58
Sosumi	"gotta catch em all darn pokemon"	Jan 15 18:58
MinceR	lol	Jan 15 18:59
MinceR	VDs, gotta catch 'em all!	Jan 15 18:59
Sosumi	looking at that I think we need a maid café here in portugal	Jan 15 19:01
Sosumi	which would be the best way to catch all pedos	Jan 15 19:01
Sosumi	no need for stalking on the internet	Jan 15 19:01
Sosumi	:P	Jan 15 19:02
Sosumi	well, better than having them stalking those child protection centers	Jan 15 19:19
Sosumi	like we had in the past with "Casa Pia Scandal"	Jan 15 19:19
Sosumi	*the	Jan 15 19:19
schestowitz__	http://i.imgur.com/8aQIjA3.jpg	Jan 15 19:20
Sosumi	!google casa pia scandal	Jan 15 19:20
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521205	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Casa Pia child sexual abuse scandal - Wikipedia, the free ... \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Pia_child_sexual_abuse_scandal	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Casa Pia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Pia	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Why Portugal is a haven for paedophiles - the disturbing backcloth ... \| http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488654/Why-Portugal-haven-paedophiles--disturbing-backcloth-Madeleine-case.html	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Guilty after six-year trial, Portugal's high-society paedophile ring ... \| http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/guilty-after-sixyear-trial-portugals-highsociety-paedophile-ring-2070112.html	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wolverton: Say goodbye to the Internet we've known	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.mercurynews.com \| Wolverton: Thanks to net neutrality ruling say goodbye to the Internet we've known - San Jose Mercury News [ http://ur1.ca/gfbtp ]	Jan 15 19:20
Sosumi	lol at point 3	Jan 15 19:20
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521246	Jan 15 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus devices in Ubuntu Touch http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/canonical-no-longer-supporting-most-nexus-devices-in-ubuntu-touch/ http://www.androidauthority.com/only-nexus-4-nexus-7-2013-ubuntu-touch-support-334718/	Jan 15 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr	-> androidandme.com \| Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus devices in Ubuntu Touch \| Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gfexn ]	Jan 15 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.androidauthority.com \| Only Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013) to continue to receive Ubuntu Touch support [ http://ur1.ca/gfexo ]	Jan 15 19:21
schestowitz__	I think they need to do what Mozilla did. Partner up with a couple companies. Make a range of low- middle- and high-spec phones compatible with Ubuntu Touch. For fuck sake, the hardware requirements include an ARM Cortex A9. I'm sorry. But that shit is expensive. Instead of stopping support for certain devices, they need to figure out what's in their OS that they don't need. Make it work lighter. Come to think of it, the Unity DE	Jan 15 19:21
schestowitz__	could use this as well.""	Jan 15 19:21
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520889	Jan 15 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whatever the #nsa is doing is basically opening the door for #russia #china etc. to do the same. West leads in digital rights violations.	Jan 15 19:21
schestowitz__	"Western companies built the censorship networks in China. Making that tyranny stronger gave us cheap labor. That cheap labor damaged all of our rights. It is not surprising that the owners of those companies now want to finish the job at home."	Jan 15 19:21
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521998	Jan 15 19:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: “Normandy” is Not an Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced Surveillance Device http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/turning-users-into-products/	Jan 15 19:24
schestowitz__	"burn. also, at the moment both apple, microsoft and google are guilty of creating enhanced surveillance devices."	Jan 15 19:24
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| “Normandy” is Not an Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced Surveillance Device \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfem4 ]	Jan 15 19:24
schestowitz__	"What does "cancer incidents serve well" mean?"	Jan 15 19:26
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Americana777/status/423536298259787776	Jan 15 19:26
TechrightsBot-tr	@Americana777: @schestowitz What does "cancer incidents serve well" mean?	Jan 15 19:26
schestowitz__	If the NSA (et al.) inadvertently gives cancer to those whom it spies on, then that serves its agenda well, too.	Jan 15 19:27
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520362	Jan 15 19:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: O’Donovan calls for crackdown on internet browsers and payment systems which facilitate illegal activity http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/index.xml FOSS FUD	Jan 15 19:28
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/index.xml )	Jan 15 19:28
schestowitz__	"Okay is all legal payment legal?"	Jan 15 19:28
schestowitz__	Some people call payments to those whom they don't agree with "illegal", e.g. payments to Wikileaks	Jan 15 19:28
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520345	Jan 15 19:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Epiphany-Web-Browser-Now-Uses-HTTPS-for-Google-Searches-by-Default-416947.shtml why use Google at all?	Jan 15 19:29
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default [ http://ur1.ca/gff0w ]	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	Right Roy !! :)	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	@Beta Idoru more precisely : GNOME is part of the GNU Project and can be used with various Unix-like operating systems, most notably GNU/Linux. Initially, "GNOME" was an acronym of GNU Network Object Model Environment, referring to the original intention of creating a distributed object framework similar to Microsoft's OLE; it was dropped, because this no longer reflects the core vision of the GNOME project... But the "G" is always	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	for GNU.	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	Why did you talk about Google instead of GNU ?	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	Roy asked "why use Google at all".	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	Because I used to work directly or indirectly with different paid Gnome developers on different projects - thus I have shared my opinion. GNU ideals ends up where G money from Google comes.	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	I answered - when you don't know what is this about - this is always about the money.	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"Julien, thanks for answering and clarifying. I am using exclusively Linux based desktop last 12 years, so it is funny for me read this :)"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"And on the other side, right now we don't have really alternative to Google search - even projects like DuckDuckGo are using Google under the neath.... Is there are nice open source accurate search system?"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"Yacy, but it currently does not deliver the same quality in result and as it is P2P based, it's slower. But the more people use it, the better it gets."	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"Cool. Going to check!"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	@Beta Idoru, Yes, that's true Google is one of the most efficient search engine. And as you said We don't have any choice except some projects like DuckGo (even if it uses results form Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc in ecrypted/anonymous mode).	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	The fact is Epiphany Web Browser developers made a choice : for Google Searches, Epyphany uses HTTPS by default	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	But there is no link between Gnome and Google. Even if the default seach engine is Google (because its fame I guess), Now you can change the default search engine of course :)	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	Well about Google and Co there are others search engines but they are not too efficient I think.	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	By my side, for the moment I use exclusively DuckGo or encrypted.google.com through DuckGo	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	I don't trust too much DuckGo neither.... I am digging now Yacy and https://search.viewskew.com	Jan 15 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr	search.viewskew.com \| searx	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	Using services who are using Google as their base is just trying to paint grass to look more green - IMHO...	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	'	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	DuckGo don't use only Google, you know. In fact Google and Co know someone searches something at a moment of the day BUT they don't know who.	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	Thanks for Yacy, I didn't know it :)	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	http://www.alexanderhanff.com/duckduckgone	Jan 15 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alexanderhanff.com \| Still trust DuckDuckGo? \| www.alexanderhanff.com [ http://ur1.ca/eephr ]	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	If not using Google - how they generate search results? They indexed internet by themselves?	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"ok thanks for informations :)"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	Actually this looks awesome: https://duckduckgo.com/goodies	Jan 15 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr	duckduckgo.com \| DuckDuckGo Goodies	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	What about my question from point number "2" - how they perform search?	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	"With ads (linked with google), google-adwords, google-ads on/inside pages ... unfortunately"	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	"Yes it looks awsome indeed"	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	DuckDuckGo is very bad for privacy. Don't even visit the site. It's Amazon-hosted (i.e. CIA) and it pretends to be about privacy while offering little of it and demonstrating many other problems. In the course of 2 years I found about a dozen others.	Jan 15 19:33
schestowitz__	Use ixquick dot com.	Jan 15 19:33
MinceR	is there a list of those problems, besides the amazon-hosting and the yahoo/microsoft usage?	Jan 15 19:35
schestowitz__	Yes	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	but not in TR	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	Will Hill wrote a good summary	Jan 15 19:36
Sosumi	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2539970/The-sixth-sense-DEBUNKED-Psychic-powers-not-exist-just-trick-brain-claims-stud.html	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.dailymail.co.uk \| Psychic powers don't exist and are just a trick of the brain, claims study \| Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gff2j ]	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	!google will kill duckduckgo	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Can DuckDuckGo kill Google? - IVPN Blog \| https://www.ivpn.net/blog/can-duckduckgo-kill-google	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Google tracks you. We don't. An illustrated guide. \| http://donttrack.us/	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Another reason to use duckduckgo - How Google is Killing Organic ... \| http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2013/07/another-reason-to-use-duckduckgo-how-google-is-killing-organic-search/	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - DuckDuckGo app for Windows in the Windows Store - Microsoft \| http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/duckduckgo/d526ba1b-a065-4cb9-a6c6-bf30f6123e2b	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	LLOL	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	Windows Storee	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	Endorsed by MS	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	Uses MS	Jan 15 19:36
Sosumi	no one's saying "jesus told me that psychic powers don't exist"	Jan 15 19:37
Sosumi	?	Jan 15 19:37
Sosumi	lol	Jan 15 19:37
schestowitz__	http://173.21.64.166/~willhill/	Jan 15 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr	173.21.64.166 \| Will Hill's Homebox Home Page	Jan 15 19:38
Sosumi	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/01/how-opt-out-gmails-google-plus-integration	Jan 15 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eff.org \| How To Opt Out of Gmail's Google Plus Integration \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gfe92 ]	Jan 15 19:38
MinceR	Sosumi: my psychic powers told me jesus doesn't exist! checkmate!	Jan 15 19:38
Sosumi	God told me through his only begotten sun, that it is all in your head	Jan 15 19:40
Sosumi	*son	Jan 15 19:40
Sosumi	lol	Jan 15 19:40
Sosumi	mine's better	Jan 15 19:40
schestowitz__	I can;t f	Jan 15 19:41
schestowitz__	ind the article anywhere https://plus.google.com/113579520393333767984/about	Jan 15 19:41
TechrightsBot-tr	plus.google.com \| Will Hill - About - Google+	Jan 15 19:41
MinceR	i've found some related things	Jan 15 19:42
schestowitz__	I haven't	Jan 15 19:48
schestowitz__	I feel like I wasted 10 minutes	Jan 15 19:48
schestowitz__	I approached the search in all sorts of ways	Jan 15 19:48
schestowitz__	it's a very lonh article he put together, linking a lot to us as well	Jan 15 19:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521671	Jan 15 19:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To become undetectable the #nsa radio frequencies would probably have to be very high -- high enough to ionize the atoms in a strand of DNA.	Jan 15 19:48
schestowitz__	"Low frequency xray does not travel well. I don't know about terahertz waves, but they are not ionizing. The damage done by microwaves and terahertz waves is different from that done by ionization. I've read that microwaves can missalign or break critical structures at cell division by magnetic force. That's not the same as the direct damage done by the formation of radicals by ionization. The results may be the same, but the	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	mechanism is different."	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521523	Jan 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Dutch government advises to cover your webcam, here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i841CamEX3o (Dutch gov notification: http://nos.nl/video/597900-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html )	Jan 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Webcam [Official Short Film] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4a ]	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	"lol, they were designed to give this power to their owners."	Jan 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> nos.nl \| Justitie: plak je webcam af - NOS Nieuws [ http://ur1.ca/gff56 ]	Jan 15 19:49
MinceR	he has a few comments on DDG at https://plus.google.com/+JeffJarvis/posts/5X7nHcjijsC	Jan 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	plus.google.com \| Jeff Jarvis - Google+ - I'm appalled that I just got email from someone flacking… [ http://ur1.ca/e9f1w ]	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521906	Jan 15 19:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Our ability to share is often used as a tool against us. The wrong people are watching, listening and using it for their advantage. They can drown out the truth with broadcast, censor it on the internet and physically neutralize those telling it.	Jan 15 19:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> phys.org \| Study: Internet erodes democratic protections [ http://ur1.ca/gff61 ]	Jan 15 19:51
schestowitz__	'We are watching those 'wrong people' too. Populations are so far naive and we need to teach people to understand their communications convey power and to use that wisely. there is immense wisdom out there yet to be tapped"	Jan 15 19:51
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Americana777/status/423541051593224193	Jan 15 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr	@Americana777: @schestowitz Oh, thanks, I get it now. Know thy enemy & get rid (kill) of them too. Wish NSA used its power to destroy corruption instead.	Jan 15 19:53
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423546644484079616	Jan 15 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Obedience https://t.co/LLZrfGlsiq	Jan 15 20:07
iophk	nasty compression artifacts haven't they heard of GIF yet?	Jan 15 20:11
iophk	http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=net-neutrality-ruling-opens-door	Jan 15 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.scientificamerican.com \| "Net Neutrality" Ruling Opens Door for 2-Tiered Internet Market: Scientific American [ http://ur1.ca/gffc5 ]	Jan 15 20:13
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423547733173997568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423548081787772928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423548317545803776	Jan 15 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Stallman's love http://t.co/Ttls8zAcqJ	Jan 15 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Dog skiing https://t.co/ei7yRMzr8H rubs eyes	Jan 15 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Flat tire https://t.co/jS4tji7vpa	Jan 15 20:14
MinceR	not flat enough.	Jan 15 20:26
*MinceR gets the steamroller		Jan 15 20:26
iophk	http://act.freepress.net/sign/internet_FCC_court_decision2/	Jan 15 20:26
TechrightsBot-tr	act.freepress.net \| FreePress.net \| Tell the FCC: Restore Net Neutrality [ http://ur1.ca/gffk2 ]	Jan 15 20:26
schestowitz__	anti-Snowden trolls in Twitter, like the anti-Manning ones I used to see https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423550917565497345 https://twitter.com/SnowdenAss/status/423552651708469248	Jan 15 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: After drowning out the truth about #benzygler (apparently another #snowden but less successful) they jailed and killed him, it seems...	Jan 15 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@SnowdenAss: @schestowitz it wouldn't kill you to at least get his name right. Surname is Zygier, not Zygler. Do you also spell #Snowden as #Snowdin?	Jan 15 20:32
schestowitz__	He's being suicided in the press again http://www.timesofisrael.com/australia-fm-dont-call-settlements-illegal-under-international-law/	Jan 15 20:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.timesofisrael.com \| Australia FM: Don't call settlements illegal under international law \| The Times of Israel [ http://ur1.ca/gffra ]	Jan 15 20:34
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423550917565497345 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423554098475307008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423554335600287744	Jan 15 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #propaganda and #coverup imported from the nation with vested interests http://t.co/gluatE5Ari http://t.co/yeJnf15wD2	Jan 15 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.jpost.com \| UK picks up Israeli developed TV show about Prisoner X \| JPost \| Israel News	Jan 15 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.smh.com.au \| Tale of Israel's Prisoner X Ben Zygier is headed to television	Jan 15 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The corporate press is 'suiciding' a murdered man again and again, as if repeating the lie will somehow give it more legitimacy	Jan 15 20:37
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423550917565497345	Jan 15 20:37
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423555302374768640 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423555591156801536	Jan 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Is there an anti- #snowden #astroturf campaign kicking off at #twitter https://t.co/9mfdKsbALx there used to be such anti- #manning accounts	Jan 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> twitter.com \| SnowdenAss (SnowdenAss) on Twitter	Jan 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "The US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay has been caught conducting covert propaganda attacks on the internet." http://t.co/46NlFfumqR	Jan 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> wikileaks.org \| Wikileaks busts Gitmo propaganda team - WikiLeaks	Jan 15 20:42
iophk	http://www.thenation.com/blog/177915/fcc-can-and-must-prevent-segregated-internet	Jan 15 20:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.thenation.com \| The Internet As We Know It Is In Peril. The FCC Can (And Must) Save It \| The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/gffyw ]	Jan 15 20:44
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520345	Jan 15 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Epiphany-Web-Browser-Now-Uses-HTTPS-for-Google-Searches-by-Default-416947.shtml why use Google at all?	Jan 15 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default [ http://ur1.ca/gff0w ]	Jan 15 20:46
schestowitz__	"Ixquick is a metasearch engine based in New York and the Netherlands."	Jan 15 20:46
schestowitz__	New York?	Jan 15 20:46
schestowitz__	When did THAT happen?	Jan 15 20:46
schestowitz__	"ixquick uses google ads..."	Jan 15 20:47
schestowitz__	Where? If that's true, I'd like to see it.	Jan 15 20:47
schestowitz__	"host more Yacy Servers \o/ ;)"	Jan 15 20:47
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521482	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@meneer@pod.orkz.net: Dutch government advises to cover your webcam, here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i841CamEX3o (Dutch gov notification: http://nos.nl/video/597900-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html )	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Webcam [Official Short Film] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4a ]	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	"Yes, is valid for most people :)"	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> nos.nl \| Justitie: plak je webcam af - NOS Nieuws [ http://ur1.ca/gffzu ]	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521726	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jacob Appelbaum's talk made it sound as though #Nightstand was a rarely used tool, not attached to ~100,000 nodes/points.	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	"Yep, expensive. If they actually got warrants for it, I'd think it was OK. Their ordinary spying compromises hundreds of millions if not billions of people."	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521822	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@willhill@joindiaspora.com reshared: Now I think I can understand why Business Insider attacks #nsa critics. They're funded by Marc Andreeseen http://www.businessinsider.com/marc-andreessen-on-the-nsa-2014-1	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessinsider.com \| Marc Andreessen On The NSA - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gfe97 ]	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	"So many bad guys and so little time ........... So what is the count so far on number of bad guys caught by NSA spying ......... is it greater than ZERO yet ? Odd world ....... as said just do it ..... the proof is in the results."	Jan 15 20:48
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schestowitz__	I have just checked page source and I see nothing like Google or any other domain (cross-site access)	Jan 15 20:51
schestowitz__	in izuick that is...	Jan 15 20:52
schestowitz__	ixquic.vom	Jan 15 20:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Americana777/status/423541051593224193	Jan 15 20:54
TechrightsBot-tr	@Americana777: @schestowitz Oh, thanks, I get it now. Know thy enemy & get rid (kill) of them too. Wish NSA used its power to destroy corruption instead.	Jan 15 20:54
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423558640516075520	Jan 15 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: It didn't take long for the lobbyist/mole who entered the #fcc to sell us all out http://t.co/t7r4YTWaep	Jan 15 20:59
MinceR	http://amultiverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/x2014-01-15-Hard-Evidence.jpg.pagespeed.ic.25qdqkdzz6.jpg	Jan 15 21:03
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423559903048105984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423560782933426176 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423561989378801664 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423562274511781888	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Video: US police murders man http://t.co/jdUl6XD6K7	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.latimes.com \| Full un-edited video presented in Kelly Thomas murder trial -- latimes.com	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The Jury showed empathy for violence in the #KellyThomas case - it doesn't matter. He was poor. He was asking for it. (sad sarcasm)	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: How #police works https://t.co/8gBAP1x8oP echoes my observations in the #uk - they sometimes arrest reporters of #crime	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: In the #uk when you phone the #police they say it's a crime to falsely report crimes; when you report the crime they do nothing. Pointless.	Jan 15 21:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423562526807568385 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423562763651530752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563145538723840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563333875552256	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The "bad" guys https://t.co/W1LDzfNTD8 and those who led to his death are held up as "justice"	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Not sure about the #fcc but I submitted numerous complaints to #ftc - they're a joke, they do nothing. Like police, just sit, eat all day.	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: We already know who the biggest criminals and villains are; they lobby hard for SOPA, ACTA, TPP. And they have army: http://t.co/bcnJtzzfhs	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	-> myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Hard" working people https://t.co/qP0kGVkRMG	Jan 15 21:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563554617589760 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563991278157824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423564304039030784	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Free software necessary for humanity https://t.co/T2IqBscaq7	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Spirit of MLK and Worldwide Wave, Hints of a Global Spring http://t.co/zfwPxE6n5R #tpp the last straw (looting)?	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.huffingtonpost.com \| Spirit of MLK and Worldwide Wave, Hints of a Global Spring \| Jacob Devaney	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Worth of lives https://t.co/Rqymn3qaJi	Jan 15 21:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423565324760645632	Jan 15 21:21
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Convenient illusions are said to be "necessary" because the world is cruel and unjust and those who can't relate usually just can't see it	Jan 15 21:21
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423567163090558976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423567755649228800	Jan 15 21:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Camouflage https://t.co/uWd62QPISm	Jan 15 21:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #TPP in plain English https://t.co/WPN4JevQUJ	Jan 15 21:32
Sosumi	TPP	Jan 15 21:33
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeDKNeXCUAAxFfL.jpg:large	Jan 15 21:33
Sosumi	15% import tax, specially if it is foreign sweat shop labored goods, tax financial transactions at the stock exchange and ban derivatives	Jan 15 21:36
Sosumi	should be a good start	Jan 15 21:36
Sosumi	instead of another free exploitation treaty	Jan 15 21:36
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522457	Jan 15 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Video: US police murders man http://www.latimes.com/videogallery/69846618/News/Full-un-edited-video-presented-in-Kelly-Thomas-murder-trial	Jan 15 21:36
schestowitz__	"Well it shows an utter disrespect for human life on both parts, the cops as well as the jury's."	Jan 15 21:36
schestowitz__	Sosumi: nice one	Jan 15 21:38
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc_Q5nrCcAEJVhC.png:large	Jan 15 21:38
schestowitz__	posted	Jan 15 21:38
Sosumi	beware of the lord of the tentacle	Jan 15 21:38
Sosumi	http://www.michaeljournal.org/images/octopus.jpg	Jan 15 21:38
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423568820528496640 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423568962992214016 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423569196208119808 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423569756533575680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423569878143209472	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: What open source means to a young programmer http://t.co/Hctk6ZHefk #freedom #programming #independence	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> opensource.com \| What open source means to a young programmer \| opensource.com	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Urgent Request for Funding OpenBSD HQ's Electricity http://t.co/hGieOHCsyQ #openbsd is getting weak and the foundation is too	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.undeadly.org \| Urgent Request for Funding OpenBSD HQ's Electricity	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: KDE SC 4.12 gets January update http://t.co/bF0CUd0IDG #kde #gnu #linux	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| KDE SC 4.12 gets January update \| Muktware	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Crushing us with #tpp https://t.co/wNEteQFs2E how much more will oligarchs get away with? http://t.co/92D6NsWS1d	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| I'm mad as Hell and I'm not going to take this anymore - YouTube	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: What #tpp does https://t.co/ZaDdwIW8IO	Jan 15 21:41
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/DebianBleat/status/423570343136329728	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@DebianBleat: @schestowitz Hi, you mention #programming and this img for you. HD http://t.co/xgPjIKfVGE #ruby http://t.co/dpLFxu1ptI	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> wallbase.cc \| Justin Maller abstract animals black background digital art wallpaper (#2940341) / Wallbase.cc	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@DebianBleat: @schestowitz Hi, you mention #programming and this img for you. HD http://t.co/xgPjIKfVGE #ruby http://t.co/dpLFxu1ptI	Jan 15 21:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522457	Jan 15 21:47
schestowitz__	"I'm not going to watch this, but it just seems like America in the world, being reflected in its own 'body'. Violence against weak, vulnerable goes, so long as 'we' can get away with it. The USA is a danger to itself, humanity, and life on this planet. We need a better model of "freedom", "democracy" and "justice" than "violence for profit"."	Jan 15 21:47
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521094	Jan 15 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NetNeutrality Quashed: New Pricing Schemes, Throttling, and Business Models to Follow http://www.technologyreview.com/news/523606/net-neutrality-quashed-new-pricing-schemes-throttling-and-business-models-to-follow/ http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/net-neutrality-blown/	Jan 15 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.technologyreview.com \| Net Neutrality Quashing Will Mean New Pricing Schemes, Throttling, and Business Models \| MIT Technology Review [ http://ur1.ca/gfaz8 ]	Jan 15 21:47
schestowitz__	"By the theory of change, he's the person to direct action at."	Jan 15 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| US Courts Are Cementing the Gradual Death of the World Wide Web (As We Know It) \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfc1o ]	Jan 15 21:47
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521969	Jan 15 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: linux tablets from mozilla are coming http://www.geek.com/tablets/mozilla-just-got-its-first-firefox-os-tablets-from-foxconn-1582133/	Jan 15 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.geek.com \| Mozilla just got its first Firefox OS tablets from Foxconn \| Tablets \| Geek.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfdtp ]	Jan 15 21:48
schestowitz__	"I know they're probably no worse than other manufacturers, but it still seems like a shame that they'd be allying with one of the ones with the most worker's rights controversies surrounding them."	Jan 15 21:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423573792024449024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423574393768652800	Jan 15 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: How to complain about mobile filtering over-blocking https://t.co/9xmrD6X4ri Read: how to report illegal #censorship	Jan 15 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - How to complain about mobile filtering over-blocking	Jan 15 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #censorship of sites in the #eu by legal threats http://t.co/LZAkO5f2se	Jan 15 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.laquadrature.net \| Civil Society Calls on the ECHR's Grand Chamber to Overturn Delfi v. Estonia Ruling \| La Quadrature du Net	Jan 15 21:58
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423577098641747968 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423575286752739328 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423578584931110912 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423579224197566464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423579543509925888	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Assessing an evaluation of #gnu #linux distros to use http://t.co/rxCDtauv2i	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.itworld.com \| Best Linux distributions for 2014? \| ITworld	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Linux -powered telepresence robot gets personal http://t.co/GvCH3cVohl	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> linuxgizmos.com \| Linux-powered telepresence robot gets personal · LinuxGizmos.com	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Choice (same brand, many flavours) https://t.co/7ukvlwZtej	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Schools Have Become A Playground For Food And Beverage Marketing http://t.co/OIAHBsFQNO teaching them brands while they're young	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> thinkprogress.org \| Schools Have Become A Playground For Food And Beverage Marketing \| ThinkProgress	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: RMS meets Rahul Gandhi http://t.co/mvfeehpQtN will edit and release more #rms videos soon...	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.space-kerala.org \| RMS meets Rahul Gandhi \| Society For Promotion of Alternative Computing and Employment	Jan 15 22:23
Sosumi	http://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/wifi-bug-lets-nsa-cross-impentrable-air-gap/	Jan 15 22:33
TechrightsBot-tr	slashdot.org \| WiFi Bug Lets NSA Cross Impentrable Air Gap [ http://ur1.ca/gfhgk ]	Jan 15 22:34
Sosumi	"Under a program code-named Quantum, the NSA has been inserting tiny circuit boards or doctoring USB devices to create a new wireless network interface that can allow its operatives to remotely link to even air-gapped computers using coded signals, obscure frequencies and radio-signal relays that could be miles away from the target and sometimes occupy no more space than a briefcase, according to a Jan. 14 story in The New York Times. "	Jan 15 22:35
Sosumi	remember the movies "enemy of the state" and "eagle eye"?	Jan 15 22:36
Sosumi	predictive programming at best	Jan 15 22:36
Sosumi	eagle eye featured things like knowing the whereabouts of vehicles among other things	Jan 15 22:37
Sosumi	what do we know? manufacturers track your usage of the car through the built gps/electronics	Jan 15 22:38
Sosumi	I'm actually glad I have an old but functional car	Jan 15 22:38
MinceR	i remember a computer that for some obscure reason needed to look at a bunch of monitors using a camera	Jan 15 22:40
MinceR	as for the air gap: this is why i'm glad my raspberry pi has no built-in wi-fi or bluetooth (or other rf) interface	Jan 15 22:43
Sosumi	hipster computer then, relying on eavesdropping instead of taking over the system	Jan 15 22:43
MinceR	:>	Jan 15 22:43
Sosumi	real computers don't have built in wireless	Jan 15 22:43
MinceR	mobile ones do :>	Jan 15 22:44
MinceR	even wireless charging :>	Jan 15 22:44
Sosumi	not a single workstation grade board comes with wifi or bluetooth	Jan 15 22:44
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 22:44
Sosumi	usually only consumer stuff does	Jan 15 22:45
MinceR	hm, actually this new nsa stuff is about hidden extra circuits	Jan 15 22:45
MinceR	anything could have those, i guess	Jan 15 22:45
MinceR	time for the rise of free hardware, i guess	Jan 15 22:46
MinceR	maybe with faster fpga-based cpus and gpus	Jan 15 22:46
Sosumi	yes, but usually on normal boards there are no emi shields convering things up	Jan 15 22:46
Sosumi	like there are on boards with built radios	Jan 15 22:46
Sosumi	*built in	Jan 15 22:47
MinceR	which makes it scarier for boards you didn't expect to have radios	Jan 15 22:47
Sosumi	I think anything strange would be noticeable	Jan 15 22:47
Sosumi	you'd notice the antenas on the board	Jan 15 22:47
MinceR	not if they formed part of the wiring	Jan 15 22:48
Sosumi	disguised as wiring?	Jan 15 22:48
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 22:48
Sosumi	but even then, wouldn't the aluminum/steel case shield the entire thing?	Jan 15 22:48
MinceR	depends on a lot of things, i guess	Jan 15 22:49
MinceR	with the right kind of grounding, i imagine it could even use the case as an antenna	Jan 15 22:49
MinceR	or if there are large enough openings, it could communicate through those	Jan 15 22:49
MinceR	(unshielded stuff and such)	Jan 15 22:50
Sosumi	yes, with grounding is possible	Jan 15 22:50
Sosumi	unless you properly shield it	Jan 15 22:50
MinceR	also, there was a suspected hoax where someone talked about computers using ultrasound to bridge air gaps	Jan 15 22:50
Sosumi	nah, what I heard was using laser microfones to record keypressing sounds	Jan 15 22:51
MinceR	there's that	Jan 15 22:51
Sosumi	and then bruteforce the sounds into key presses	Jan 15 22:51
MinceR	i've heard of laser microphones, but not their use to record computer input	Jan 15 22:51
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/HansNiesund/status/423587476255830016	Jan 15 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@HansNiesund: @schestowitz ... Then look up the relevance of proximity under international law (none) and the principle of self-determination #falklands	Jan 15 22:52
Sosumi	what I am fearful is of poisoned silicon	Jan 15 22:53
MinceR	?	Jan 15 22:53
Sosumi	who knows what is inside those intel chips and bridges	Jan 15 22:53
Sosumi	poisoned silicon = hardware silicon	Jan 15 22:53
MinceR	hidden circuitry and backdoors or poisons that act on humans?	Jan 15 22:53
MinceR	(which could be released via heat, i guess)	Jan 15 22:53
Sosumi	fail, poisoned silicon = backdoor/vulnerability built into the hardware	Jan 15 22:54
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 22:54
Sosumi	just kind of ZZZzzzº	Jan 15 22:54
MinceR	gn	Jan 15 22:55
Sosumi	and so any code compiled on that hardware would inherit a vulnerability	Jan 15 22:55
MinceR	so, trusting trust attack initiated in hardware	Jan 15 22:55
Sosumi	and to turn matters worse intel moved in to encrypt their execution	Jan 15 22:56
MinceR	?	Jan 15 22:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423582737040437249 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423583194546712578 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423583398280822784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423584911564738560	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "government had deal with Mexican drug cartel Sinaloa that allowed the group to smuggle billion of dollars of drugs" http://t.co/ccawzdhM6s	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| NO TITLE	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Freemasons attempted to find out which detectives were suspected of links to organised" http://t.co/KolFcev9Zu welcome to #uk #police	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| Revealed: How gangs used the Freemasons to corrupt police - Crime - UK - The Independent	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: I know some high=level police officers in the #uk who are openly "Freemasons". I guess The Independent's report won't help them much.	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #uk follows the #china model not just when it comes to #censorship http://t.co/6Szpj351Zn	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| The lost girls: Department of Health to act on reports of illegal abortions by gender - Crime - UK - The Independent	Jan 15 22:58
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423585737075068928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423586285807468544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423587011690504193 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423587866032480256 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423589749505675265	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #China and #Philippines : The reasons why a battle for Zhongye (Pag-asa) Island seems unavoidable http://t.co/HNiy2jK4lH watch map...	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> chinadailymail.com \| China and Philippines: The reasons why a battle for Zhongye (Pag-asa) Island seems unavoidable \| China Daily Mail	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Watch the map of #uk #argentina and #falklands then decide whose territory it is https://t.co/JMJ8fNKonh	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> en.wikipedia.org \| Falklands War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Government accused of 'bribing local councils' on controversial fracking projects http://t.co/f1eksh3WUI #fracking #uk #crime #bribe	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| Government accused of 'bribing local councils' on controversial fracking projects - Environment - The Independent	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Monsanto announces high profits and major expansion across Latin America http://t.co/H9vYMqVSGf no execs in #jail yet	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| Monsanto announces high profits and major expansion across Latin America — RT USA	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Monsanto is one of the best examples I can think of when you wish to show that crime pays off. Reward for genocide, mortality, bribes, etc.	Jan 15 22:59
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522261	Jan 15 23:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Common wisdom in Western corporate media is that #china shows us what will come to us; I beg to differ: #uk / #us show what comes to world.	Jan 15 23:00
schestowitz__	"That's a neat trick, define the future by writing about something most people can't really check. I don't want the world to be like what people tell me China is. I want it even less to be what corporate media tells me it will be. We can make a better world than bullshit and oppression."	Jan 15 23:00
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522773	Jan 15 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I know some high=level police officers in the #uk who are openly "Freemasons". I guess The Independent's report won't help them much.	Jan 15 23:01
schestowitz__	"there is a lot of politicians who are publicy known freemason in belgium"	Jan 15 23:01
Sosumi	I think I made some confusion with trusted execution	Jan 15 23:01
Sosumi	or not	Jan 15 23:01
Sosumi	!google trusted execution	Jan 15 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Trusted Execution Technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Execution_Technology	Jan 15 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Trusted Compute Pools with Intel® Trusted Execution Technology \| http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/trusted-execution-technology/malware-reduction-general-technology.html	Jan 15 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Intel® Trusted Execution Technology: White Paper \| http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/trusted-execution-technology/trusted-execution-technology-security-paper.html	Jan 15 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Trusted Execution Technology - Intel \| http://www.intel.com/technology/security	Jan 15 23:01
Sosumi	GN	Jan 15 23:05
schestowitz__	nn	Jan 15 23:10
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/meneer/status/423593199459119104	Jan 15 23:12
TechrightsBot-tr	@meneer: @piratenpartij volgen jullie @schestowitz al? En zitten jullie op een #diaspora* pod?	Jan 15 23:12
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423591382218194946 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423593100779335681 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423593234439630850 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423594005067497472	Jan 15 23:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "When software is open, its strengths and weaknesses are visible to everyone." http://t.co/p58Rr1m22w	Jan 15 23:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.pirateparty.org.uk \| Opinion: What you dont see you dont care, but you should - Pirate Party UK	Jan 15 23:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." -- Orwell	Jan 15 23:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Security https://t.co/VHGc4uaLiN	Jan 15 23:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: When man attacks corporation it's a crime. When corporation attacks many men (and women) it's "a mystery" http://t.co/pGdZGPTOKZ	Jan 15 23:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thenation.com \| West Virginia ERs Report an Influx of Patients After Water Deemed Safe \| The Nation	Jan 15 23:15
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423595242483646464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423598149564104704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423598904073261056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423599161137975296 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423599853470355456	Jan 15 23:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Jono says 2014 http://t.co/hsMH4pA3ru just 2 days later: http://t.co/SFiDZHPF1V	Jan 15 23:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thinkdigit.com \| New Ubuntu phones to be launched in 2014 - Mobile Phone News \| ThinkDigit	Jan 15 23:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.ubergizmo.com \| Ubuntu Touch Phone Not Expected Until 2015 \| Ubergizmo	Jan 15 23:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Tizen is designed to be a low-cost, highly configurable OS" http://t.co/fP0PjswtPi #linux #tizen #mobile #intel #nokia #samsung	Jan 15 23:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.linuxinsider.com \| What's Up With Tizen? \| Mobile \| LinuxInsider	Jan 15 23:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #obama is having a /#bush (not senior) moment https://t.co/j1HAznkRnf #nsa #NotATyrant	Jan 15 23:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Another OpenGL 4.2 Extension Is Hitting Mesa http://t.co/IhXcITxegH #opengl #mesa #linux	Jan 15 23:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Another OpenGL 4.2 Extension Is Hitting Mesa	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: 'Educated' Black Men Appear 'Whiter' in Memory http://t.co/POHrRF2i5J says a lot about #stigma	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.nationaljournal.com \| 'Educated' Black Men Appear 'Whiter' in Memory - NationalJournal.com	Jan 15 23:40
schestowitz__	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians	Jan 15 23:57
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Indigenous Australians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gfibb ]	Jan 15 23:57
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423608326388482049 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423608876643401728	Jan 16 00:13
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #FISA Court Judges Say They Don't Want Any Changes To How The Rubber Stamp Court Is Run http://t.co/9AW7uS7BnW secret courts=corruption	Jan 16 00:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.techdirt.com \| FISA Court Judges Say They Don't Want Any Changes To How The Rubber Stamp Court Is Run \| Techdirt	Jan 16 00:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #alexnader lied to Congress and others (inc. oversight) just like #clapper - numerous times in fact. When will they be put in prison? #nsa	Jan 16 00:14
schestowitz__	"There is a lot of propaganda in the corporate media right now regarding community self-defense groups (“autodefensas”) in Mexico."	Jan 16 00:17
schestowitz__	http://www.interference.cc/propaganda-surrounding-vigilante-groups-in-southern-mexico-autodefensas/	Jan 16 00:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.interference.cc \| Deconstructing recent propaganda surrounding “vigilante groups” in Southern Mexico \| Interference [ http://ur1.ca/gfiff ]	Jan 16 00:17
schestowitz__	Trolling with "gates"http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/79774.html	Jan 16 00:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.linuxinsider.com \| Red Hat and CentOS: A Great Thing or a Gates Thing? \| Community \| LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/gfifo ]	Jan 16 00:18
schestowitz__	quoting anti-FOSS troll "hairyfeet"	Jan 16 00:19
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DaemonFC`	shared a link via AlterNet.	Jan 16 01:14
DaemonFC`	about a minute ago · Edited	Jan 16 01:14
DaemonFC`	http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/15/virginia-gop-candidate-spousal-rape-isnt-a-crime-if-she-is-wearing-a-nightie/	Jan 16 01:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.rawstory.com \| Virginia GOP candidate: Spousal rape isn’t a crime if she is ‘wearing a nightie’ \| The Raw Story [ http://ur1.ca/gfipu ]	Jan 16 01:14
DaemonFC`	Someone mentioned this on Amazon without a link. So, someone asked for a link. The person who originally posted said to google it. The person that asked for a link says "I'm not typing 'Dick Black' into Google.".	Jan 16 01:15
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DaemonFC	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU3MjE	Jan 16 02:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] OpenBSD Foundation At Risk Of Shutting Down [ http://ur1.ca/gfj72 ]	Jan 16 02:38
DaemonFC	"The OpenBSD Foundation is running into a situation of lack of funding to the point that they can't even cover their electricity costs and may be forced to suspend or reduce their operations without additional help. "	Jan 16 02:38
DaemonFC	"So far no company has come forward to sponsor their electricity needs."	Jan 16 02:40
DaemonFC	And no company will. They're like Apple. They take the software and run. Make it proprietary.	Jan 16 02:40
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DaemonFC	schestowitz__: http://www.alternet.org/economy/apple-meets-its-worst-nightmare-federally-appointed-antitrust-lawyer-hell-bent-doing-his-job	Jan 16 03:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alternet.org \| Apple Meets Its Worst Nightmare: Federally Appointed Antitrust Lawyer Hell-Bent on Doing His Job \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gfjix ]	Jan 16 03:43
DaemonFC	You might want to link to that.	Jan 16 03:43
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx148UL9TRWO94L	Jan 16 04:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: [crApple] meets their worst enemy. An antitrust investigator that is determined to do his job. [ http://ur1.ca/gfjn4 ]	Jan 16 04:05
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DaemonFC	According to Clarity Ray, the following percentage of users of each browser block ads.	Jan 16 07:01
DaemonFC	Chrome: 19%	Jan 16 07:01
DaemonFC	Firefox: 18.3%, Safari 11.3%, Opera: 7.76%, and IE 3.86%	Jan 16 07:01
DaemonFC	I got a hacked version of Candy Crush for my phone.	Jan 16 07:18
DaemonFC	It allows any move you want to make. LOL	Jan 16 07:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/423632548481085440	Jan 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@Morality124: @schestowitz I choose #XFCE :)	Jan 16 08:14
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/pavithrans/status/423618966863355905	Jan 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@pavithrans: @schestowitz Glad that someone went to details to explain the difference in the #gnome old and new #linux :)	Jan 16 08:14
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DaemonFC	http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&m=104197092318639&w=2	Jan 16 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr	lists.kde.org \| '(fwd) Greetings from the Safari team at Apple Computer' - MARC [ http://ur1.ca/gflwi ]	Jan 16 10:07
DaemonFC	"We've	Jan 16 10:07
DaemonFC	also made significant enhancements, bug fixes, and performance	Jan 16 10:07
DaemonFC	improvements to KHTML and KJS."	Jan 16 10:08
DaemonFC	Like making it 1,000 times bigger and slower.	Jan 16 10:08
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iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/dotcoms-internet-party-aims-to-shake-up-politics-140115/	Jan 16 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Dotcom’s ‘Internet Party’ Aims to Shake Up Politics \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gflzl ]	Jan 16 10:25
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/dotcoms-internet-party-aims-to-shake-up-politics-140115/	Jan 16 10:29
iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/14/kim-dotcom-megaupload-pirate-innovator-dance-album-interview	Jan 16 10:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Kim Dotcom: 'I'm not a pirate, I'm an innovator' \| Technology \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gfm07 ]	Jan 16 10:29
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/whodunit-hyper-v-failure-may-reveal-fabled-escape-attack-234164	Jan 16 10:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Whodunit: A Hyper-V failure may reveal fabled 'escape attack' \| Microsoft Windows - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gfm0s ]	Jan 16 10:33
Sosumi	safari? that browser that at this point still shokes on pages with tons of gifs	Jan 16 10:35
Sosumi	and randomly crashes	Jan 16 10:35
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/net-neutrality-we-need-hero-the-unlikeliest-of-places-234261	Jan 16 10:35
iophk	can conflict of interest be overcome?	Jan 16 10:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Net neutrality: We need a hero, from the unlikeliest of places \| Data Center - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gfm0x ]	Jan 16 10:35
Sosumi	without generating a crash report	Jan 16 10:35
Sosumi	awesome! better dump their contribution ASAP	Jan 16 10:35
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iophk	old - http://www.thelocal.se/20140107/hitler-furious-at-swedish-ministers-satire-mishap	Jan 16 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.thelocal.se \| 'Hitler furious' at Swedish minister's satire mishap - The Local [ http://ur1.ca/gfm4t ]	Jan 16 10:53
Sosumi	I guess that I was right all along by pulling an one man effort without relying on external institutions for research funding	Jan 16 10:56
Sosumi	massive cuts in research and on paid scholarships just announced	Jan 16 10:56
Sosumi	got to love austerity	Jan 16 10:57
Sosumi	perhaps now I should build a terminator that instead of wanting to kill Sarah Connor	Jan 16 10:58
Sosumi	it kills bankers and dirty politicians	Jan 16 10:58
Sosumi	http://www.tsf.pt/PaginaInicial/Portugal/Interior.aspx?content_id=3634516&utm_source=dlvr.it	Jan 16 10:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tsf.pt \| Bolseiros de Investigação Científica denunciam cortes brutais em bolsas - TSF [ http://ur1.ca/gfmah ]	Jan 16 10:59
Sosumi	from TSF	Jan 16 10:59
Sosumi	join the EU they said, or you'll be left behind they said	Jan 16 11:05
Sosumi	you'll be walking around in greek togas they said, join our utopia they said	Jan 16 11:06
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iophk	https://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/10-security-privacy-issues-you-might-not-know-about-your-car%E2%80%99s-auto-location-services	Jan 16 11:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.networkworld.com \| 10 security, privacy issues you might not know about your car’s auto-location services [ http://ur1.ca/gfmk2 ]	Jan 16 11:14
DaemonFC	I just pirated NFS Hot Pursuit for my phone.	Jan 16 11:49
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 16 11:49
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schestowitz	Energy/Climate Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/pollution-weather-environmental-issues/ #energy #climate #environment #wildlife	Jan 16 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Energy/Climate Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfmsa ]	Jan 16 11:52
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schestowitz	Economic Disparity Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/economic-disparity/ #finance #economy #uk #portugal #eu #bitcoin	Jan 16 11:54
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Economic Disparity Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfmu1 ]	Jan 16 11:54
schestowitz	Covert Action Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/covert-action-watch/ #mi6 #cia #mexico #russia #china #korea	Jan 16 12:02
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Covert Action Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn3p ]	Jan 16 12:02
schestowitz	Police Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/police-watch-january-2014/ #police #uk #us #australia #germany #argentina	Jan 16 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Police Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn4g ]	Jan 16 12:07
schestowitz	Torture Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/torture-watch-january-2014/ #torture #interrogation #abuse #humanrights	Jan 16 12:11
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Torture Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn4t ]	Jan 16 12:11
schestowitz	Drones Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/drones-watch-january-2014/ #drones #nsa #cia #assassination #pakistan #iraq #yemen	Jan 16 12:12
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Drones Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn4x ]	Jan 16 12:12
iophk	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2429536,00.asp	Jan 16 12:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcmag.com \| The Remarkable Intel NUC \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfn64 ]	Jan 16 12:19
iophk	Those universities that have moved to "cloud" based services have really put their head in a noose since all that traffic goes over the net, often long distances over many ISPs.	Jan 16 12:27
iophk	http://thejournal.com/articles/2014/01/16/net-neutrality-ruling-impact-on-education.aspx	Jan 16 12:27
TechrightsBot-tr	thejournal.com \| Will Net Neutrality Ruling Doom Education to Second-Class Status? -- THE Journal [ http://ur1.ca/gfnah ]	Jan 16 12:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/a_vl/status/423797638836670464	Jan 16 12:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@a_vl: "@schestowitz: 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For Netbooks http://t.co/XgPGRYFs2n #gnu #linux" / great anlysis and sugestions.	Jan 16 12:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For Netbooks ~ Everyday Linux User	Jan 16 12:51
amarsh04	the other thing that is crazy is university libraries outsourcing their catalogues	Jan 16 12:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423796761153777664 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423800906770296832	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Patent Troll #MPHJ Run by Lawyer Jay Mac Rust, Sending Nastygrams to 16,465 Businesses For Using Scanners http://t.co/a2oBsSaTEo #swpats	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Patent Troll MPHJ Run by Lawyer Jay Mac Rust, Sending Nastygrams to 16,465 Businesses For Using Scanners \| Techrights	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #CESG ( #UK Government): GNU/Linux the Most Secure Operating System; New Backdoors Released for #Windows http://t.co/Ey0RLWgS8z #gnu #linux	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| CESG (UK Government): GNU/Linux the Most Secure Operating System; New Backdoors Released for Windows \| Techrights	Jan 16 12:57
schestowitz	NSA #Surveillance Goes Offline, Potentially Gives Cancer http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/snowden-whistleblower/ #nsa #nytimes #snowden	Jan 16 12:57
schestowitz	#COINTELPRO Never Really Ended, It Just Changed Identity http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/cointelpro-changed-names/ #swartz #protest #peace #vietnam #fbi nypd #cia #nsa	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| NSA Surveillance Goes Offline, Potentially Gives Cancer \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfnn8 ]	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| COINTELPRO Never Really Ended, It Just Changed Identity \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfnn9 ]	Jan 16 12:57
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423805291562823680	Jan 16 13:14
DaemonFC	http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/18/clarityray-ad-blockers/	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Links 16/1/2014: Games http://t.co/0j5HUcPO69 Instructionals http://t.co/Jou7dxxGpG Applications http://t.co/JFNRc1i1p4 #techrights	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2014: Games \| Techrights	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2014: Instructionals \| Techrights	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2014: Applications \| Techrights	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	techcrunch.com \| ClarityRay Battles Ad Blockers With $500K In Funding \| TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gfnq7 ]	Jan 16 13:14
DaemonFC	If you get through my ad blocker, I will make it a point to never buy anything from you.	Jan 16 13:14
DaemonFC	I have an ad blocker because I don't like being annoyed.	Jan 16 13:14
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DaemonFC	These games are huge. Glad I got the 32 GB phone.	Jan 16 13:18
DaemonFC	The 16 GB one wouldn't hold very many at 500 MB to 1.5 GB apiece.	Jan 16 13:19
MinceR	http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/01/15/nazis_genital_mutilation_and_gay_propaganda_or_human_rights_in_europe_according_to_	Jan 16 13:24
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.foreignpolicy.com \| Russian Human Rights Report Casts Europe as Land of Nazis and Gay Propaganda [ http://ur1.ca/gfnrm ]	Jan 16 13:24
MinceR	that's what the EU gets for tolerating a dictatorship as a member	Jan 16 13:24
MinceR	http://abstrusegoose.com/552	Jan 16 13:52
TechrightsBot-tr	abstrusegoose.com \| Abstruse Goose \| Astronaut Barbie	Jan 16 13:52
schestowitz	MinceR: notice the url	Jan 16 13:52
schestowitz	compare to headline	Jan 16 13:53
schestowitz	some editor didn't like to talk about genital mutilation it seems	Jan 16 13:53
MinceR	yeah	Jan 16 13:53
schestowitz	maybe he was himself mutilated	Jan 16 13:53
MinceR	it's holy and must be respected	Jan 16 13:53
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 16 13:53
MinceR	because preventing people from mutilating children would not be respectful enough of religion	Jan 16 13:53
schestowitz	DaemonFC: companies that make money from doing evil	Jan 16 13:57
schestowitz	surveillance, arms, patents, brainwash...	Jan 16 13:57
iophk	http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/blair-westlake-resigns-from-microsoft-1201059105/	Jan 16 13:58
TechrightsBot-tr	variety.com \| Blair Westlake Resigns from Microsoft \| Variety [ http://ur1.ca/gfnwo ]	Jan 16 13:58
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schestowitz	cool	Jan 16 14:11
schestowitz	I will do a post	Jan 16 14:11
DaemonFC	schestowitz: They promise to "sort out your ad-blocked inventory".	Jan 16 14:14
DaemonFC	Fuck them. I'm not inventory.	Jan 16 14:14
iophk	is this an attempt to whitewash it of the association with Surface?	Jan 16 14:14
iophk	http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/19/et-documentary-xbox/	Jan 16 14:14
iophk	Several tons of M$ Surfaces are in the dump too, according to popular conception along side the ET cartridges.	Jan 16 14:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.engadget.com \| Microsoft's first Xbox-exclusive documentary is digging up Atari's past [ http://ur1.ca/gfnzy ]	Jan 16 14:14
iophk	http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240899/Microsoft_writes_off_nearly_1B_to_account_for_Surface_RT_bomb	Jan 16 14:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerworld.com \| Microsoft writes off nearly $1B to account for Surface RT bomb - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gfo01 ]	Jan 16 14:15
iophk	old	Jan 16 14:15
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Sosumi	just some common sense	Jan 16 14:22
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-16/who-has-time-and-motivation-comprehend-mess-were-almost-nobody	Jan 16 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| Who Has The Time And Motivation to Comprehend The Mess We're In? Almost Nobody \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gfo1p ]	Jan 16 14:23
DaemonFC	Well, it's really easy for people to bash app pirates. They say it's only $5 or something. But nobody ever gets one app.	Jan 16 14:25
DaemonFC	You get hundreds or thousands. Most people have no money for that.	Jan 16 14:25
DaemonFC	I think there's something wrong when a computer's hardware costs less than the software it runs.	Jan 16 14:25
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schestowitz	[14:15] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.computerworld.com \| Microsoft writes off nearly $1B to account for Surface RT bomb - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gfo01 ]	Jan 16 14:37
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 16 14:37
schestowitz	only a billion?	Jan 16 14:37
iophk	They probably over inflated the worth as it was.	Jan 16 14:38
MinceR	http://www.secmeme.com/2014/01/till-death-do-us-part.html	Jan 16 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.secmeme.com \| Security Memetics: Till death do us part [ http://ur1.ca/gfo4t ]	Jan 16 14:39
schestowitz	ok, caught up with links here, I plan 2 more articles, 2 more links summaries	Jan 16 14:40
schestowitz	totalling 14 posts today, same as yesterday	Jan 16 14:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423826971697897472 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423826564594552832 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423825603239108608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423824690730504192	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #cia #drones in #yemen http://t.co/qemi2kxbBK	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "I think there's something wrong when a computer's hardware costs less than the software it runs." Ryan at #techrights	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Rape 'expert' called Dick Black http://t.co/AEq2lVX0X9 can't make this stuff up!	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.rawstory.com \| Virginia GOP candidate: Spousal rape isn’t a crime if she is ‘wearing a nightie’ \| The Raw Story	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Apple Meets Its Worst Nightmare: Federally Appointed Antitrust Lawyer Hell-Bent on Doing His Job http://t.co/e8mlPH1bV4 #apple #abuse	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.alternet.org \| Apple Meets Its Worst Nightmare: Federally Appointed Antitrust Lawyer Hell-Bent on Doing His Job \| Alternet	Jan 16 14:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423824379781586944 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423823920429793280 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423820942331379712	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The #fanatic patent aggressor, Apple, is trying to cuddle with #kde http://t.co/neOs7rOXxR send #apple to "Trash"	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> lists.kde.org \| '(fwd) Greetings from the Safari team at Apple Computer' - MARC	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Dotcom’s ‘Internet Party’ Aims to Shake Up Politics http://t.co/wLOyt9NhOv http://t.co/hsi4Xlg9mF nicely named, too	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> torrentfreak.com \| Dotcom’s ‘Internet Party’ Aims to Shake Up Politics \| TorrentFreak	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| Kim Dotcom: 'I'm not a pirate, I'm an innovator' \| Technology \| The Guardian	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: 'Hitler furious' at Swedish minister's satire mishap http://t.co/qYqWYYHJQR Russia calls Europe a land of Nazis http://t.co/pXsw1e74iA	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thelocal.se \| 'Hitler furious' at Swedish minister's satire mishap - The Local	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> blog.foreignpolicy.com \| Russian Human Rights Report Casts Europe as Land of Nazis and Gay Propaganda	Jan 16 14:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423820134432915456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423817538611732480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423816773088313344	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Companies as informants against their customers https://t.co/vzUiqCvGVV’s-auto-location-services	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ https://t.co/vzUiqCvGVV’s-auto-location-services )	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Dvorak is experimenting with #gnu #linux again http://t.co/4o12RQK8ji	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.pcmag.com \| The Remarkable Intel NUC \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: FCC's incompetence can retard people http://t.co/JnELf9GiG6	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> thejournal.com \| Will Net Neutrality Ruling Doom Education to Second-Class Status? -- THE Journal	Jan 16 14:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423815917471281152	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Astronaut Barbie http://t.co/F7n9WM2oxu #humour	Jan 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr	-> abstrusegoose.com \| Abstruse Goose \| Astronaut Barbie	Jan 16 14:43
iophk	Does Dvorak have enough seniority to get away with that or will they try to can him over it?	Jan 16 14:43
schestowitz	nope	Jan 16 14:43
schestowitz	but he told me years ago, by email, that he was using ubuntu	Jan 16 14:43
schestowitz	so it's not new	Jan 16 14:43
iophk	the publicity is new	Jan 16 14:43
schestowitz	and I think he does use it, at least some of the time	Jan 16 14:43
schestowitz	no, he mentioned it before	Jan 16 14:44
schestowitz	!google john dvorak ubuntu	Jan 16 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Dvorak Likes Linux \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com \| http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2342703,00.asp	Jan 16 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Woe is Linux. Woe is Me. \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com \| http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2419744,00.asp	Jan 16 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Dvorak News Blog \| http://www.dvorak.org/	Jan 16 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - QotD: John C. Dvorak - Be the signal \| http://bethesignal.org/blog/2009/01/13/qotd-john-c-dvorak/	Jan 16 14:44
schestowitz	brb	Jan 16 14:44
iophk	there appears to be a series on 'exploit of the day' : https://www.schneier.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=NSA	Jan 16 14:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.schneier.com \| Schneier on Security: Entries Tagged NSA [ http://ur1.ca/gfo61 ]	Jan 16 14:46
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iophk	https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-1401.html#2	Jan 16 15:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.schneier.com \| Crypto-Gram: January 15, 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gfob6 ]	Jan 16 15:07
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iophk	"Tom Wheeler is only fanning the flames of the fire with repeatedly vague responses regarding net neutrality. People are up in arms because Wheeler doesn’t view net neutrality as a communication issue, but rather a network (technical) issue, which aligns with yesterday’s court decision."	Jan 16 15:25
iophk	http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/15/why-fcc-chairman-tom-wheeler-isnt-big-on-net-neutrality-rules/	Jan 16 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	venturebeat.com \| Why FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler isn't big on net neutrality rules \| VentureBeat \| Business \| by Tom Cheredar [ http://ur1.ca/gfokz ]	Jan 16 15:25
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423833108044337152 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423833515500003328 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423837778288582656	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Interventions Watch: January 2014 http://t.co/CN48hMTlNp #syria #iraq #libya #china #russia #sudan #africa #mandela	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Interventions Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Back doors for the government's legalised crackers is also a back doors for non-government crackers https://t.co/jyLd2BZH1v	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Cable/Media Companies’ Conflict in Reporting (and Rupert #Murdoch Really Hates Net Neutrality) http://t.co/Ps9fbeaKLD #NetNeutrality	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Cable/Media Companies’ Conflict in Reporting (and Rupert Murdoch Really Hates Net Neutrality!) \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423844262472851456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423848675031670784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423854731489185792	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: KDE Needs to Tell Apple to Take a Hike http://t.co/ocvvI0yacc #kde #apple #konqueror #kthml #safari #antitrust	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| KDE Needs to Tell Apple to Take a Hike \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Microsoft Vice President Blair Westlake Quits Microsoft http://t.co/TgLmUSj5Th #microsoft #xbox #xboxone #nsa	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Microsoft Vice President Blair Westlake Quits Microsoft \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors http://t.co/TsVZlYbpvr #hyperv #windows #security	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423855947879305217 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423856075029614592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423856842364956672 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423857188764155904	Jan 16 16:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA Exploit of the Day https://t.co/cNHVG02bPB	Jan 16 16:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "84 YEAR OLD CANADIAN WITH DEMENTIA DIES IN HANDCUFFS AT UK IMMIGRATION CENTRE" http://t.co/V1gablqPRl #uk #canada	Jan 16 16:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> iacknowledge.net \| 84 Year Old Canadian with Dementia Dies in Handcuffs at UK Immigration Centre \| I Acknowledge	Jan 16 16:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #FCC 'chairmole': a #lobbyist with a #coup http://t.co/OgeehGDHV4 mission accomplished™	Jan 16 16:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Turkish riot police officer who gassed ‘lady in red’ faces prosecution http://t.co/Stf722jtRT #uk #police would have covered (for him) up	Jan 16 16:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| Turkish riot police officer who gassed ‘lady in red’ faces prosecution and possible jail term - Europe - World - The Independent	Jan 16 16:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423859395563630592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423859732827623424 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423859875261976576	Jan 16 16:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA: six out of 10 Americans want reform of data collection, says poll http://t.co/vvVRgCnor5 http://t.co/U3B3RFJ21c http://t.co/8zdPLAQTrh	Jan 16 16:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| NSA: six out of 10 Americans want reform of data collection, says poll \| World news \| theguardian.com	Jan 16 16:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.aljazeera.com \| US set to announce NSA reforms - Americas - Al Jazeera English	Jan 16 16:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessweek.com \| Phone Companies to Win in Obama Plan to Leave Records at NSA - Businessweek	Jan 16 16:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Bloomberg's 'News' calls it a "win" when the #nsa (without oversight) gets to keep all the call records. Win for Michael #Bloomberg maybe.	Jan 16 16:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA reform measures quietly included in $1.1tn spending bill http://t.co/e7mv3efMK6 trillions for war and spying, not for care	Jan 16 16:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| NSA reform measures quietly included in $1.1tn spending bill \| World news \| theguardian.com	Jan 16 16:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423860707181219841 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423861122991919105 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423861330014388224 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423861685502627840	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Companies trust #china more than the #us after the #nsa leaks http://t.co/3eeVlhNm1R	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theregister.co.uk \| Huawei dismisses NSA backdoor claims as profits soar • The Register	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #US citizens recognise their real enemy: oligarchs and military industrial complex http://t.co/ZafXZaJbS5	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.examiner.com \| NSA scandal: Washington State considers cutting off electricity, water for NSA - National Law Enforcement \| Examiner.com	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA Metadata Collection: Fourth Amendment Violation http://t.co/Dmli7HWnwq why isn't Alexander holed up in some embassy somewhere?	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> jurist.org \| JURIST - Forum: NSA Metadata Collection: Fourth Amendment Violation	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #NSA Whistlebower-- William Binney (formerly NSA): Corruption in NSA, Lies About Snowden, Threats to #Democracy http://t.co/wj7E7q8nWD	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.opednews.com \| Podcast: NSA Whistlebower-- William Binney: Corruption in NSA, Lies About Snowden, Threats to Democracy \| OpEdNews	Jan 16 16:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423862249229676544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423862521658081280 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423862823513759744	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Security Expert Bruce Schneier Says to Foil NSA Spies, Encrypt Everything http://t.co/IM724vP226 #nsa #schneier	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessweek.com \| Security Expert Bruce Schneier Says to Foil NSA Spies, Encrypt Everything - Businessweek	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Privacy advocates fear ‘largely cosmetic’ NSA reform package http://t.co/i8Y47734WM http://t.co/fHsabT1VJz	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.japantimes.co.jp \| Privacy advocates fear 'largely cosmetic' NSA reform package \| The Japan Times	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.voanews.com \| Latest Revelations on NSA Likely to Change Little in US Cyber Spying	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #obama is memorising a speech right now. Who wrote it? They'll use lingual trick to avoid #snowden as "whistleblower" http://t.co/FMLJ0L611X	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.scmp.com \| Obama set to respond to Snowden about NSA reforms in highly anticipated speech \| South China Morning Post	Jan 16 17:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423864053073584128	Jan 16 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Binney&Drake became aware that they had committed offences,whereupon the did the right thing, laid ground for Snowden http://t.co/BfmkJ0J5jQ	Jan 16 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.delcotimes.com \| Two whistleblowers share concerns of NSA overreach at WCU event	Jan 16 17:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423864411137531905 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423864661092872192 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423865056494116864 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423865355308912640	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: AP/Bloomberg groom makers of #nsa #whitewash at #cbs http://t.co/8HSP1VxYDE corporate media: it's one happy family, it seems	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessweek.com \| Producer: NSA revelations vindicate CBS drama - Businessweek	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The NSA's Biggest Supporter Is Worried About Drone Privacy Issues http://t.co/axtcAtSeQ0 #feinstein volunteer #pr for #nsa	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> motherboard.vice.com \| The NSA's Biggest Supporter Is Worried About Drone Privacy Issues \| Motherboard	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: This Is Where #Drone Operators Kill People by Remote Control http://t.co/XpcHRjoeUx ... https://t.co/eece7YYGm1	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.gizmodo.in \| This Is Where Drone Operators Kill People by Remote Control \| Gizmodo India	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> joindiaspora.com \| This Is Where #Dr...	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Texas named a drone ‘site’ http://t.co/6lsuO4K0wa there's domestic #dissent (aka "terrorism") http://t.co/v3qxiJndju	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.alpineavalanche.com \| Texas named a drone ‘site’ - Alpine Avalanche: News	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bizjournals.com \| UC doesn't want you to fear the dawn of drones - Cincinnati Business Courier	Jan 16 17:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423865747983831040	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #drone #violence may seem "necessary" when the population it's supposed to control is itself violent (cyclical) http://t.co/sBvtCsBl4U	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.opednews.com \| Article: Violence becoming the new norm in America \| OpEdNews	Jan 16 17:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423866789148491776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423867404993982464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423867571256172545	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Secret amendment in Congress keeps #CIA in charge of deadly #drone strikes http://t.co/u3tivrDyO0 http://t.co/rI1ExGzBYy Change?!	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| NO TITLE	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> voiceofrussia.com \| US policymakers seek to block transfer of drone campaign CIA to Pentagon - News - Politics - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "America's Great Game: The CIA's Secret Arabists and the Shaping of the Modern Middle East" - new Wilford book http://t.co/5xCZ6zw2bD	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.usnews.com \| The 'Great Game' and the CIA Shaped the Modern Middle East - US News and World Report	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: DOES BEZOS' CIA LINK, COMPROMISE WASHINGTON POST? http://t.co/K31t0mftXk Rhetorical question. #cia execs now guest writers.	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.wnd.com \| Does Bezos’ CIA link, compromise Washington Post?	Jan 16 17:23
schestowitz	http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2014/01/pictures-commando-tourism-israel-201418104712893401.html	Jan 16 17:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.aljazeera.com \| In Pictures: 'Commando tourism' in Israel - In Pictures - Al Jazeera English [ http://ur1.ca/gfpin ]	Jan 16 17:26
schestowitz	Symptoms of #empire http://truth-out.org/news/item/21261-the-special-ops-surge-americas-secret-war-in-134-countries	Jan 16 17:28
TechrightsBot-tr	truth-out.org \| The Special Ops Surge: America's Secret War in 134 Countries [ http://ur1.ca/gfpj4 ]	Jan 16 17:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423869663131365376	Jan 16 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Leaked #TPP Document Reveals No Regard for #Environment in Trade Agreement http://t.co/2SFZe8yZu4	Jan 16 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Leaked TPP Document Reveals No Regard for Environment in Trade Agreement - YouTube	Jan 16 17:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/423869205855735808	Jan 16 17:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@EllieAsksWhy: @schestowitz Yes. He has a variety of other links which will likely result in further compromise to his media businesses.	Jan 16 17:30
schestowitz	which ones? Links...	Jan 16 17:30
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iophk	I've not noticed that the net-neutrality articles have mentioned that it was status quo and how the Internet got built.	Jan 16 17:59
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Sosumi	now that I think of it	Jan 16 18:32
Sosumi	we do kind of need a siri, free, alternative	Jan 16 18:33
Sosumi	that runs locally	Jan 16 18:33
Sosumi	and I don't thin there are any projects out there	Jan 16 18:33
Sosumi	I'll have too look deeper into it, just to make sure	Jan 16 18:36
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeHHLhBCUAEyJ90.jpg:large	Jan 16 18:36
Sosumi	that was the reason I stopped gaming	Jan 16 18:36
Sosumi	not that I was ever too much of a "gamer"	Jan 16 18:36
iophk	MBAs == money Tribbles	Jan 16 19:23
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fewt	everyone should play gorillas.bas	Jan 16 19:51
fewt	I mean, hi!	Jan 16 19:51
fewt	hmm does gorillas.bas classify as FOSS?	Jan 16 19:51
iophk	what does the head of the source say?	Jan 16 19:52
fewt	guess not	Jan 16 19:52
fewt	ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/windows/msdos/RESKIT/SUPPDISK/GORILLA.BAS	Jan 16 19:52
fewt	no public domain, foss, or even right to use defined.	Jan 16 19:52
iophk	close:	Jan 16 19:53
iophk	http://www.lysator.liu.se/eamon/	Jan 16 19:53
iophk	"Non-commercial distribution welcomed"	Jan 16 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.lysator.liu.se \| The Unofficial Home Page of Eamon Games	Jan 16 19:53
fewt	<3	Jan 16 19:54
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Sosumi	http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=604	Jan 16 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.stevequayle.com \| Wells fargo now charging for deposits! [ http://ur1.ca/gfr6w ]	Jan 16 20:46
Sosumi	yeah, it is true	Jan 16 20:46
Sosumi	here in PT they want to do exactly the same	Jan 16 20:47
Sosumi	although with much backlash from the public	Jan 16 20:47
Sosumi	so they kind of put it on hold for now	Jan 16 20:47
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Sosumi	you pay for letting a bank borrow your money	Jan 16 20:49
MinceR	what a great business	Jan 16 20:49
Sosumi	and trow it around without giving you a decent percentage	Jan 16 20:49
Sosumi	also, cyprus	Jan 16 20:49
Sosumi	keep your money in the bank they said	Jan 16 20:49
Sosumi	it'll be safe, they said	Jan 16 20:50
Sosumi	until "bail in" came in	Jan 16 20:50
Sosumi	ho! and lets not forget the confiscation of pension funds in poland and in here	Jan 16 20:50
Sosumi	just hide your valuables somewhere safe, like in a hole in the middle of nowhere	Jan 16 20:51
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Sosumi	and hey, don't forget to not bring your cell phone with you nor use a car with build in gps	Jan 16 21:21
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Sosumi	gn	Jan 16 22:30
MinceR	gn	Jan 16 23:17
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Viper550	the Wikimedia Commons community is proposing to endorse and allow the patent encumbered MP4 as a video format	Jan 16 23:59
Viper550	https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/MP4_Video	Jan 17 00:00
TechrightsBot-tr	commons.wikimedia.org \| Commons:Requests for comment/MP4 Video - Wikimedia Commons [ http://ur1.ca/gfqqw ]	Jan 17 00:00
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423994902507425793 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423995368389750784	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: I can no longer use or recommend #startpage and #iquick - expanded from .NL to NYC (NYPD/FBI/NSA), uses MSFT for images, does #google ads	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The only #privacy preserving search engine (which did not sell out) was #scroogle - like #lavabit it shut down rather than sell out.	Jan 17 01:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423997796249636864	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: It's easy to assume that #iquick lost its commitment to #privacy now, just like #DDG (Amazon)."google is everywhere" https://t.co/TeIBG40k1A	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Epiphany-Web-Browser-Now-Uses-HTTPS-for-Google-Searches-by-Default-416947.shtml why use Google at all?	Jan 17 01:59
schestowitz__	> https://twitter.com/RightToBeForgot/status/423996248677687296	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@RightToBeForgot: @schestowitz I've been trying out https://t.co/KtYT2eGz9s which is pretty good so far. no images though	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> metager.de \| MetaGer - die MetaSuche über deutschsprachige Suchmaschinen	Jan 17 01:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423998446388137984	Jan 17 02:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Charging for deposits! http://t.co/3quH6TVYk9 those poor banks. Not selling enough mortgages and bogus insurance? Too many bonuses?	Jan 17 02:03
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423999346854862848	Jan 17 02:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: When a friend of yours -- or even a business -- wishes to borrow your money (to lend out to others at 10% APR) would you PAY him/her/it?	Jan 17 02:05
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/424001585141014529	Jan 17 02:17
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Private gang, like domestic army https://t.co/gkt1Z35bYP	Jan 17 02:17
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.commondreams.org \| All Of Us Need To Be Very Afraid Now: "Peace Officers" Who Beat Homeless Mentally Ill Man To Death Somehow Found Not Guilty \| Common Dreams	Jan 17 02:17
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/424003621714665472	Jan 17 02:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "manager lied about Thomas breaking into cars when calling the police to get them to respond more quickly." https://t.co/FZ155TG3z8	Jan 17 02:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> en.wikipedia.org \| Death of Kelly Thomas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	Jan 17 02:22
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DaemonFC	shared a link via Lifehacker.	Jan 17 05:32
DaemonFC	28 seconds ago	Jan 17 05:32
DaemonFC	http://lifehac.kr/rilBbTL	Jan 17 05:32
TechrightsBot-tr	lifehacker.com \| Make 20 Meals to Feed a Family of Four for $150 and One Trip to Costco	Jan 17 05:32
DaemonFC	For anyone with a CostCo nearby, an excellent plan to create an affordable monthly grocery bill. 20 good meals for $150. Basically unheard of these days. Grocery prices are up about 30% since 2008, because of Wall Street speculators, global climate change, and overpopulation.	Jan 17 05:32
DaemonFC	I'm doing my part. I have personally reduced the 2050 population by 3-5 people.	Jan 17 05:33
DaemonFC	shared a link via Gawker.	Jan 17 05:33
DaemonFC	4 minutes ago	Jan 17 05:33
DaemonFC	http://gaw.kr/T8DuR4d	Jan 17 05:33
TechrightsBot-tr	gawker.com \| Drunk Driver Busted After Pet Parrot Squawks to Police	Jan 17 05:33
DaemonFC	I'd have to pull a Captain Jack Sparrow. Point a gun at the bird and say "What did the bird say?". :)	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	shared Human Rights Campaign's photo.	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	5 minutes ago · Edited	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	The Human Rights Campaign listened when I commented "Better Sooner than later." and made this image.	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	(Oklahoma is the "Sooner" state, for those that didn't get it.)	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/p526x296/1009868_10152179044628281_1529538792_n.jpg	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	about an hour ago · Edited	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	Someone brought up the fact that Solyndra failed and cost taxpayers a few million dollars.	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	When the BP oil rig exploded in 2010, because they were being regulated by oil company lobbyists that had taken over the Mineral Management Agency under the Bush Administration (in between office parties with hookers and cocaine), the government spent most of the cost of cleaning up the mess, because of a law that the Republicans passed in the 80s that capped the oil company's liability at a very low amount.	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	Why are we paying $4 a gallon for gas and well over $100 per barrel of oil to a foreign company that makes hundreds of billions of dollars per year, and then having the government make us pay $40 billion to clean up their exploded oil rig as well?	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	shared a link via Android and Me.	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	2 hours ago	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/lg-g-flex-headed-to-sprint-for-300-on-january-31-preorder-yours-today/	Jan 17 05:35
TechrightsBot-tr	androidandme.com \| LG G Flex headed to Sprint for $300 on January 31; preorder yours today \| Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gftub ]	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	I don't understand why these curved glass phones are so popular. This one is just the LG G2 with curved glass. I got my G2 for $50 on contract, and these curved glass phones are $300 with contract? Yikes!	Jan 17 05:36
DaemonFC	The G2 is an excellent phone as-is. It's fast enough to play games that were on the XBOX 360 at a stable frame rate of 60 fps, with vsync, triple buffering, and pretty much all of the graphical detail intact. I hooked my G2 up to the TV and played Need For Speed: Most Wanted today. I couldn't tell the difference between the XBOX 360 version and my phone. That should tell you that Moore's Law is alive and well.	Jan 17 05:36
DaemonFC	The Snapdragon 800 CPU and Adreno 330 graphics processor are some real beasts.	Jan 17 05:36
DaemonFC	shared a link via Truthout.	Jan 17 05:37
DaemonFC	2 hours ago	Jan 17 05:37
DaemonFC	Every state should pass this bill. No cooperation with the NSA, and cut off their electricity too.	Jan 17 05:37
DaemonFC	http://truth-out.org/news/item/21253-washington-state-bill-proposes-criminalizing-help-to-nsa-turning-off-resources-to-yakima-facility	Jan 17 05:37
TechrightsBot-tr	truth-out.org \| Washington State Bill Proposes Criminalizing Help to NSA, Turning Off Resources to Yakima Facility [ http://ur1.ca/gftuf ]	Jan 17 05:37
Viper550	the G2's UI looks awful	Jan 17 05:37
DaemonFC	It's not bad. It can be changed easily to look any way you want it to.	Jan 17 05:41
DaemonFC	Android allows you to replace the launcher and lock screen with third party apps.	Jan 17 05:42
Viper550	DaemonFC, but nothing changes the fact they're knowingly using a deprecated UI element (the menu button)	Jan 17 05:47
Viper550	and that they managed to not include all the Roboto font variants, breaking rendering in certain apps	Jan 17 05:48
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Sosumi	http://slated.org/opposing_copyright	Jan 17 07:12
TechrightsBot-tr	slated.org \| Opposing Copyright \| Slated	Jan 17 07:12
iophk	http://falkvinge.net/	Jan 17 07:12
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 522 @ http://falkvinge.net/ )	Jan 17 07:13
iophk	that site has been down for days	Jan 17 07:13
Sosumi	rick falkvinge's site is down?	Jan 17 07:13
iophk	It appears so.	Jan 17 07:14
iophk	the reverse proxy is not getting through to it	Jan 17 07:14
iophk	and producing an error message	Jan 17 07:14
Sosumi	yeah, I see	Jan 17 07:15
Sosumi	any word from him?	Jan 17 07:15
iophk	I haven't e-mailed him.	Jan 17 07:15
Sosumi	nothing on his twitter?	Jan 17 07:16
Sosumi	last message from him on g+ was posted on january the 15th	Jan 17 07:18
Sosumi	but there's nothing about the server being down	Jan 17 07:19
Sosumi	probably just something that blew up	Jan 17 07:22
Sosumi	and it'll be back in no time :)	Jan 17 07:22
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3527359	Jan 17 08:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/hyperv-back-doors/	Jan 17 08:04
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gftlo ]	Jan 17 08:04
schestowitz__	"I wouldn't consider it based on the principle of the matter. As soon as you involve #Microsoft you are asking for a choke hold."	Jan 17 08:04
iophk	sosumi: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/ftc-says-apple-will-pay-at-least-325-million-over-in-app-purchases/2014/01/15/7c2ebc54-7e13-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html	Jan 17 08:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| FTC says Apple will pay at least $32.5 million over in-app purchases - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/gfum7 ]	Jan 17 08:06
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 17 09:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Six free open source CD and or DVD authoring	Jan 17 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	tools for Linux http://t.co/8ljgxTCSTu	Jan 17 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0r	Jan 17 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mentor adds Linux and multicore options for	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	in-car media http://t.co/SsrLyWvN5k	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0s	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora and CentOS Updates, Linux for Security,	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Six free open source CD and or DVD authoring tools for Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	and Top Seven http://t.co/8daXBBDKkw	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0t	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mentor adds Linux and multicore options for in-car media \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora and CentOS Updates, Linux for Security, and Top Seven \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam OS has that killer app that Ubuntu	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	doesn’t http://t.co/NyeGvTAjh4	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0u	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Steam OS has that killer app that Ubuntu doesn’t \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.12.8 Is Now Available for	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	Download http://t.co/1gvmgpumKC	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0v	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.12.8 Is Now Available for Download \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lastwheel/status/424113434091745280	Jan 17 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@lastwheel: This is why you should refuse to use a car. This is why a cycle: https://t.co/PjNacILjIa RT @schestowitz	Jan 17 09:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3528114	Jan 17 09:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### How do you recognize the NSA #headquarter?	Jan 17 09:40
DaemonFC	http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/10/why-does-windows-have-terrible-battery-life.html	Jan 17 09:44
DaemonFC	LOL	Jan 17 09:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.codinghorror.com \| Coding Horror: Why Does Windows Have Terrible Battery Life? [ http://ur1.ca/gfv82 ]	Jan 17 09:44
DaemonFC	Windows RT gets worse battery life than the desktop OS X	Jan 17 09:46
schestowitz	link?	Jan 17 10:03
schestowitz	iophk: rich's site is back online	Jan 17 10:13
iophk	yes, just reading it now	Jan 17 10:13
iophk	he has used a 4G modem or something	Jan 17 10:13
iophk	his main link is down	Jan 17 10:14
iophk	and the ISP is backtalking him	Jan 17 10:14
iophk	"2 to 5 business days ..."	Jan 17 10:14
iophk	I still wonder if Sweden has the necessary infrastructure any more (water, electricity, phone, internet, etc)	Jan 17 10:15
iophk	When it's back up again there will probably be some interesting posts reflecting on connectivity.	Jan 17 10:18
iophk	caves of steel - http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129524.100-vertical-farms-sprouting-all-over-the-world.html	Jan 17 10:50
iophk	http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-lazarus-20140117,0,1949780.column	Jan 17 10:52
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.newscientist.com \| Vertical farms sprouting all over the world - tech - 16 January 2014 - New Scientist [ http://ur1.ca/gfvlj ]	Jan 17 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.latimes.com \| Keep the Internet free and open - latimes.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfvll ]	Jan 17 10:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424130346691485697 https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424130739274149888	Jan 17 10:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz I think the public has already figured out what they are, the curtain is gone	Jan 17 10:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz kind of like a demented and dangerous Santa Clause with drones...	Jan 17 10:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424131081923620865	Jan 17 10:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz and dont forget backend collections from various web services. Lots of people use their common passwords for all things...	Jan 17 10:55
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/wikimedia-considers-supporting-h-264-to-boost-accessibility-content/	Jan 17 11:00
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Wikimedia considers supporting H.264 to boost accessibility, content \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfvmb ]	Jan 17 11:00
MinceR	:(	Jan 17 11:01
iophk	long-term it would reduce accessibility...	Jan 17 11:02
DaemonFC	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/chromium-npapi-flash-dropped-april-2014	Jan 17 11:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Use Chromium on Linux? Adobe Flash Will Stop Working From April \| OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/gfvn0 ]	Jan 17 11:07
DaemonFC	Google is dropping NPAPI support, like Microsoft did in IE 5	Jan 17 11:07
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iophk	old - http://www.techrepublic.com/article/go-daddy-ditches-open-source-os-then-donates-10k-to-open-source-project/	Jan 17 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.techrepublic.com \| Go Daddy ditches open source OS then donates $10k to open source project - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/gfvq5 ]	Jan 17 11:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424137185038594049	Jan 17 11:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: https://t.co/ttlYG4jaD2 to get them conditioned to accept spying and no rights, you have to get them young @schestowitz	Jan 17 11:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### <a href="http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/2014/2014_01_17-bcbe_laptop_policies/">Troubling User Agreement for Grade School</a>	Jan 17 11:28
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by willhill@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e4f73dbb489a8015f0ba.jpg	Jan 17 11:28
DaemonFC	http://blog.chromium.org/2013/09/saying-goodbye-to-our-old-friend-npapi.html	Jan 17 11:35
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.chromium.org \| Chromium Blog: Saying Goodbye to Our Old Friend NPAPI [ http://ur1.ca/gfvrm ]	Jan 17 11:35
iophk	"Reports this week have suggested talks on a "no spying" deal, launched after revelations last year that the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) had monitored Merkel's mobile phone, are near collapse because Washington refuses to rule out eavesdropping on one of its closest post-war allies."	Jan 17 11:48
iophk	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/16/us-germany-usa-spying-idUSBREA0F0TX20140116	Jan 17 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.reuters.com \| Spying plunges U.S.-German ties lower than Iraq war: Merkel ally \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gfvuv ]	Jan 17 11:48
Sosumi	iophk, I knew that already	Jan 17 12:08
Sosumi	and in app purchases and dlc are both scams	Jan 17 12:08
iophk	Does it apply to other companies selling in-app purchases?	Jan 17 12:08
iophk	They seem to exploit stupid people and young kids.	Jan 17 12:08
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 17 12:08
Sosumi	but one thing is certain	Jan 17 12:09
Sosumi	m$ introduced dlc	Jan 17 12:09
Sosumi	and crapple, in app purchases	Jan 17 12:09
schestowitz	murdoch's press keeps citing "terror" http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304419104579325101634360172?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304419104579325101634360172.html	Jan 17 12:09
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Obama Wrestles With Final Details of Overhaul Plan for NSA - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfvyf ]	Jan 17 12:09
iophk	weak on details _ http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/17/us-usa-security-obama-idUSBREA0G0JI20140117	Jan 17 12:20
iophk	it seems that the data (metadata) is still collected, they are just arguing about who stores it	Jan 17 12:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.reuters.com \| Exclusive: Obama to announce overhaul to controversial NSA program \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gfvzy ]	Jan 17 12:20
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DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2F3ZWEEbF4	Jan 17 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Rage Quit - Surgeon Simulator 2013 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfw3m ]	Jan 17 12:36
schestowitz	iophk: yeah	Jan 17 12:39
schestowitz	rubber-stamping the practice	Jan 17 12:39
schestowitz	and making up a bogus controversy	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	that of corporations	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	who stores it...	Jan 17 12:40
iophk	also dodging the main question	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	It's about corporations getting upset, not people getting upset	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	iophk: legality	Jan 17 12:40
iophk	other countries have outsourced their activities, in some cases to avoid legal obligations with data and such	Jan 17 12:41
iophk	government data has to be archived, private company data can be deleted off hand	Jan 17 12:41
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 17 12:41
iophk	the previous US administration did something like that with their e-mail to avoid retention	Jan 17 12:44
iophk	and all e-mail-using administrations prior to that had tried to get their mail deleted anyway	Jan 17 12:44
DaemonFC	http://news.msn.com/science-technology/apple-to-refund-dollar325m-in-app-case-government	Jan 17 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	news.msn.com \| Apple to refund $32.5M in app case: Government [ http://ur1.ca/gfw5j ]	Jan 17 12:45
iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601979.html	Jan 17 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| GOP Groups Told to Keep Bush Officials' E-Mails [ http://ur1.ca/gfw5k ]	Jan 17 12:46
iophk	M$ also apparently uses short retention policies combined with bureaucratic misdirection to prevent access to old mails. Cringley wrote a bit about that.	Jan 17 12:46
schestowitz	iophk: MSN 'news'	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	is that reliable	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	and the second a CIA stronghold, Washington Outpost	Jan 17 12:54
iophk	probably not	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	Bezos/Amazon by Post	Jan 17 12:54
iophk	I'd go with other sources	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	I have one about the FTC	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	Not shocking that MS would promote it	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	They're still rivals in this area	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	I'd look like a mug linking to that	Jan 17 12:55
iophk	In-app purchases are kind of unscrupulous by nature.	Jan 17 12:56
DaemonFC	https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!msg/chromium-dev/J72Iv9wtTzw/32Itws6ITRkJ	Jan 17 12:57
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TechrightsBot-tr	groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/gfw76 ]	Jan 17 12:57
iophk	The in-app purchase decisions is covered by a lot of sites.	Jan 17 12:57
iophk	http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/mobile-applications/apple-settles-ftc-in-app-purchasing-complaint/d/d-id/1113454	Jan 17 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.informationweek.com \| Apple Settles FTC In-App Purchasing Complaint - InformationWeek [ http://ur1.ca/gfw77 ]	Jan 17 12:57
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schestowitz	cheers, added	Jan 17 13:04
schestowitz	article soon... MS, then APple, than RHT	Jan 17 13:07
schestowitz	I just cancelled lunch with a friend, so can probably write a dozen posts at most before I start work (5:30)	Jan 17 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Stallman Explains That People Should Say	Jan 17 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux for Freedom and Equal Mention	Jan 17 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cgDQNwPgGE	Jan 17 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfw8d	Jan 17 13:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Stallman Explains That People Should Say GNU/Linux for Freedom and Equal Mention \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 13:08
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DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/chromes-windows-8-chrome-os-lookalike-gets-a-stable-release/	Jan 17 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Chrome’s Windows 8 Chrome OS-lookalike gets a stable release \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfwke ]	Jan 17 14:20
DaemonFC	That's kind of neat.	Jan 17 14:20
MinceR	except for the part where you're running winblows :>	Jan 17 14:21
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/red-hat-and-centos-become-voltron-build-free-operating-system-together/	Jan 17 14:24
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Red Hat and CentOS become Voltron, build free operating system together \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gdcqm ]	Jan 17 14:24
DaemonFC	""In retaliation, Red Hat started shipping Linux kernel source code in a big tarball with the patches already applied, making it more difficult to build Linux distributions from the RHEL source,""	Jan 17 14:24
DaemonFC	Not more difficult if you just want to build it.	Jan 17 14:25
DaemonFC	More difficult to figure out what's in it.	Jan 17 14:25
MinceR	and why would anyone ever want to figure out anyway?	Jan 17 14:25
MinceR	it's not like they want control over what runs on their computer	Jan 17 14:25
MinceR	right? :>	Jan 17 14:25
DaemonFC	http://billmccloskey.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/multiprocess-firefox/	Jan 17 14:31
TechrightsBot-tr	billmccloskey.wordpress.com \| Multiprocess Firefox \| Bill McCloskey's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gfwme ]	Jan 17 14:31
DaemonFC	missed that entirely	Jan 17 14:31
MinceR	are they still doing it or what?	Jan 17 14:32
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 17 14:33
DaemonFC	It's in nightly	Jan 17 14:33
MinceR	ic	Jan 17 14:35
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Havokmon/status/424193402842779648 https://twitter.com/REALMattRichie/status/424194109113262080\	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@Havokmon: @schestowitz http://t.co/6TqjjhImCp #lavabit shutdown because govt wouldn't pay $2k for realtime wiretap on data already proivded manually.	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@REALMattRichie: Stallman's emphasis on using GNU when referring to GNU/Linux and discussion on #freedom http://t.co/A13WHPL4PX \| via @schestowitz	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> bytesmedia.co.uk \| Bytes Media - Stallman Explains That People Should Say GNU/Linux for Freedom and Equal Mention	Jan 17 15:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Havokmon/status/424195595427794946	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@Havokmon: @schestowitz whoop. Wrong link - this explains it all: http://t.co/XPZPlDETHA	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> havokmon.blogspot.com \| Havokmon: Lavabit - There's a sucker born every minute	Jan 17 15:06
schestowitz	Either way, he defended his users	Jan 17 15:07
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Havokmon/status/424202881265176578	Jan 17 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@Havokmon: @schestowitz Defended his users? He CAUSED the problem with the $2k demand. An encryption dev who can't automate a process? Really?	Jan 17 15:37
fewt	wat ap	Jan 17 15:46
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schestowitz	MinceR: DaemonFC http://techrights.org/2014/01/17/rhel-security/	Jan 17 15:52
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| For Real Security, Use CentOS — Never RHEL — and Run Neither on Amazon’s Servers \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfx2n ]	Jan 17 15:53
schestowitz	[14:25] <DaemonFC> More difficult to figure out what's in it.	Jan 17 15:53
schestowitz	[14:25] <MinceR> and why would anyone ever want to figure out anyway?	Jan 17 15:53
schestowitz	[14:25] <MinceR> it's not like they want control over what runs on their computer	Jan 17 15:53
schestowitz	That's the problem	Jan 17 15:53
schestowitz	Now Red Hat can have more control over what's going into CentOS, and I don't view that as a positive TBH; OTOH, they can keep CentOS afloat.	Jan 17 15:54
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ConsensusBureau/status/424212373176463361	Jan 17 16:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@ConsensusBureau: @schestowitz Have you seen this Snowden song? Want to help it go viral with a quick RT? Thanks!! http://t.co/Qo7fTP4zyv	Jan 17 16:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| "Groovy Snowden" by The Consensus Bureau - YouTube	Jan 17 16:14
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Sosumi	http://enenews.com/japan-tv-it-gets-worse-every-minute-at-fukushima-plant-groundwater-mixing-with-melted-fuel-gundersen-theres-no-end-in-sight-because-the-nuclear-core-is-in-contact-with-groundwater-video	Jan 17 16:30
TechrightsBot-tr	enenews.com \| Japan TV: It gets worse every minute at Fukushima plant, groundwater mixing with melted fuel — Gundersen: There’s no end in sight because the nuclear core is in contact with groundwater (VIDEO) [ http://ur1.ca/gfx9h ]	Jan 17 16:30
Sosumi	captain obvious	Jan 17 16:30
Sosumi	the fairewinds associates guy has been telling that since almost forever	Jan 17 16:31
DaemonFC	I don't think Red Hat is doing anything wrong here.	Jan 17 16:34
DaemonFC	I don't know why you'd distrust their binaries and trust the ones someone else gave you.	Jan 17 16:35
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schestowitz	Here's the DC definition of "reform" http://pic.twitter.com/qjp7WHcUyU	Jan 17 17:16
TechrightsBot-tr	pic.twitter.com \| NO TITLE	Jan 17 17:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GrahamTempleton/status/424227209457315840	Jan 17 17:20
TechrightsBot-tr	@GrahamTempleton: @schestowitz I hate the NSA as much as anyone, but really? Another Taliban because of a speech?	Jan 17 17:20
schestowitz	No, the reluctance to do anything about spies running a nation rather than Congress	Jan 17 17:20
schestowitz	http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/03/03/obama-speechwriter-jon-favreau-leaves-west-wing-for-screenwriting/Evt7Rtg5ax9dwbnVjFfOgJ/story.html	Jan 17 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bostonglobe.com \| Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau leaves West Wing for screenwriting - Politics - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/gfxng ]	Jan 17 17:23
DaemonFC	I just bought the new humble bundle.	Jan 17 17:53
DaemonFC	I hate Paypal, but I use them because the Humble Bundle says their fees are the lowest.	Jan 17 17:54
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iophk	speaking of infrastructure earlier...	Jan 17 18:13
iophk	no apparent date, but probably from 2013 : https://medium.com/matter/406a9f0d4166/	Jan 17 18:13
iophk	"In Massachusetts alone, over 140 million cubic metres of gas was lost every year. Nationwide, the figure was over 8 billion cubic metres"	Jan 17 18:13
TechrightsBot-tr	medium.com \| The environmental scandal that’s happening right beneath your feet — Matter — Medium	Jan 17 18:13
iophk	maybe not 2013	Jan 17 18:19
MinceR	schestowitz: allegedly Scientific Linux is better anyway	Jan 17 18:40
MinceR	and i prefer #! and Debian over either anyway	Jan 17 18:40
iophk	Debian is the way to go on servers.	Jan 17 18:40
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iophk	"F.B.I. investigators examined all of Ms. Kelley’s emails as a routine step"	Jan 17 19:58
iophk	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/06/us/from-petraeus-scandal-an-apostle-for-privacy.html	Jan 17 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr	myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gfyh1 ]	Jan 17 19:58
schestowitz__	iophk: debian the" standard" OS where I work	Jan 17 20:00
iophk	nice	Jan 17 20:01
schestowitz__	but some clients use other OSes (not internal though)	Jan 17 20:01
schestowitz__	so must know all kinds, mostly rhel clones and debian/ubuntu	Jan 17 20:01
iophk	it's got about a 3-year support cycle	Jan 17 20:01
iophk	which is not long but not short either	Jan 17 20:01
schestowitz__	have internal debian mirrors, too	Jan 17 20:01
schestowitz__	wasn't debian 5 years?	Jan 17 20:01
iophk	internal mirrors greatly speed up	Jan 17 20:01
schestowitz__	3 years for releases?	Jan 17 20:01
iophk	last I checked it was about 3 years...	Jan 17 20:02
schestowitz__	!google debian 6 year support	Jan 17 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - DebianReleases - Debian Wiki \| https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases	Jan 17 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Squeeze - Debian Wiki \| https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze/	Jan 17 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Debian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian	Jan 17 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Debian User Forums • View topic - [SOLVED] Debian life time \| http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D20%26t%3D77711	Jan 17 20:02
schestowitz__	typo	Jan 17 20:02
schestowitz__	woody at 1442 days	Jan 17 20:03
iophk	see "Total lifetime"	Jan 17 20:03
iophk	https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases	Jan 17 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr	wiki.debian.org \| DebianReleases - Debian Wiki	Jan 17 20:03
iophk	yes its about 1000 days for the rest	Jan 17 20:03
schestowitz__	yeah, so it's no better than ubuntu lts	Jan 17 20:05
MinceR	except that it is	Jan 17 20:07
iophk	ubuntu LTS is 5 years now, even for desktops	Jan 17 20:07
iophk	I'd still stay with Debian for the servers however	Jan 17 20:07
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iophk	http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/tech/web/response-obama-nsa-speech/	Jan 17 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.cnn.com \| Anti-NSA activists don't like Obama speech - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfyko ]	Jan 17 20:20
iophk	"activists"	Jan 17 20:20
MinceR	apparently that's a dirty word now	Jan 17 20:21
iophk	They're also not necessarily "anti-" NSA either. The objections have been to specific actions.	Jan 17 20:30
iophk	I would have said it was a bait title but the summary includes the terms, too.	Jan 17 20:36
Sosumi	activist rhymes with terrorist	Jan 17 20:36
iophk	as far as law enforcement in the US goes, I gather they are treated similarly.	Jan 17 20:36
Sosumi	so, "dirty word" indeed	Jan 17 20:36
Sosumi	:(	Jan 17 20:36
iophk	!low-grade terrorism	Jan 17 20:36
iophk	!google low-grade terorrism	Jan 17 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - "Low Grade Racial Terrorism” in Oregon --Words Have No Meaning ... \| http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t965984/	Jan 17 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Iran Plots a Low-Grade Nuclear Attack Which Israel ... - DEBKAfile \| http://www.debka.com/article/21947/Iran-Plots-a-Low-Grade-Nuclear-Attack-Which-Israel-Must-Forestall	Jan 17 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Volgograd bombings: Russia mustn't give in to this low-grade terror ... \| http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/30/russia-low-grade-terror-separatists	Jan 17 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Freakonomics » Terrorism, Part II \| http://freakonomics.com/2007/08/09/terrorism-part-ii/	Jan 17 20:36
iophk	hmm different results there	Jan 17 20:36
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 17 20:36
Sosumi	!google abdelhakim belhadj volgograd	Jan 17 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Global Jihad - WHO IS ABDELHAKIM BELHAJ? \| http://www.globaljihad.net/view_page.asp%3Fid%3D2136	Jan 17 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Jack Straw sued over illegal rendition of Abdel Hakim Belhadj ... \| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9210758/Jack-Straw-sued-over-illegal-rendition-of-Abdel-Hakim-Belhadj.html	Jan 17 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Libyan commander Abdelhakim Belhadj withdraws cooperation from ... \| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8999176/Libyan-commander-Abdelhakim-Belhadj-withdraws-cooperation-from-Britain-torture-inquiry.html	Jan 17 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Libyan rebel leader Abdulhakim Belhadj sues British Government ... \| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8966794/Libyan-rebel-leader-Abdulhakim-Belhadj-sues-British-Government-over-rendition.html	Jan 17 20:37
Sosumi	nothing interesting	Jan 17 20:38
iophk	seems to have fallen out of Google lately then	Jan 17 20:39
Sosumi	and that is kind of putting lipstick on the pig	Jan 17 20:39
Sosumi	that dude was behind the spain train bombings	Jan 17 20:39
Sosumi	back in 2004	Jan 17 20:39
Sosumi	years later he is glorified as the honorable "rebel" commander fighting the gadhafi	Jan 17 20:40
Sosumi	government in libya	Jan 17 20:40
Sosumi	not gadhafi was good, but Belhadj	Jan 17 20:41
Sosumi	pff	Jan 17 20:41
Sosumi	the butcher of madrid	Jan 17 20:41
Sosumi	!google abdelhakim belhadj butcher of madrid	Jan 17 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Abdelhakim Belhadj - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelhakim_Belhadj	Jan 17 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Was the Gaza Flotilla Massacre a Turkish-Israeli False Flag and ... \| http://empirestrikesblack.com/2012/02/was-the-gaza-flotilla-massacre-a-turkish-israeli-false-flag-and-precursor-to-the-war-on-syria/	Jan 17 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Libya and the Infamy of Freedom and Democracy \| LIBYA AGAINST ... \| http://libyaagainstsuperpowermedia.org/libya-the-whole-truth-about-libya-and-the-facts-of-what-really-took-place-from-the-beginning-of-february-2011-till-today/libya-and-the-infamy-of-freedom-and-democracy/	Jan 17 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Middle East Master Plan toward War and Fascism \| nsnbc international \| http://nsnbc.me/2012/07/13/middle-east-master-plan-towards-war-and-fascism-2/	Jan 17 20:42
Sosumi	all crap	Jan 17 20:42
iophk	"If the FCC actually wants to ensure net neutrality, it will have do something that every regulator in every other developed country did a long time ago. (It will also turn Verizon litigiously apoplectic.) It has to unmake the mistake it made in 2002, when it failed to classify cable Internet providers as telecommunications services. Doing so will solve everything. "	Jan 17 20:42
iophk	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-17/solving-the-net-neutrality-problem-is-actually-very-very-simple	Jan 17 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.businessweek.com \| Solving the Net Neutrality Problem Is Actually Very Simple - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/gfyo1 ]	Jan 17 20:42
Sosumi	http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/the-evidence-of-al-qaidas-role-in-the-2004-madrid-attack	Jan 17 20:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ctc.usma.edu \| The Evidence of Al-Qa`ida’s Role in the 2004 Madrid Attack \| Combating Terrorism Center at West Point [ http://ur1.ca/gfyoe ]	Jan 17 20:43
Sosumi	but volgograd was sponsored by one of US's favorite regimes	Jan 17 20:46
Sosumi	the KSA	Jan 17 20:46
Sosumi	and kind of seems like having Bandar Bin Sultan's fingerprints all over it	Jan 17 20:47
Sosumi	aka Bandar Bush :)	Jan 17 20:47
Sosumi	I guess that has become another household name	Jan 17 20:47
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sebsebseb	jono: ping	Jan 17 20:57
sebsebseb	jono: I think you can help me get some Ubuntu stuff for an event possibly	Jan 17 20:58
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DaemonFC	Firefox will be the default web browser on Kubuntu 14.04	Jan 17 22:36
sebsebseb	DaemonFC will be a Microsoft employee	Jan 17 22:43
MinceR	the revolution will not be televised	Jan 17 22:43
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Sosumi	and crapple and micro$oft will merge	Jan 17 23:57
Sosumi	giving rise to crapple$oft	Jan 17 23:57
MinceR	that will not necessarily be visible	Jan 17 23:57
MinceR	they might prefer to keep the current false dichotomy	Jan 17 23:57
Sosumi	^^	Jan 17 23:57
Sosumi	gn	Jan 17 23:58
MinceR	o/	Jan 17 23:58
Sosumi	?	Jan 18 00:04
Sosumi	just now	Jan 18 00:04
MinceR	it's ascii art of a man waving (head and arm)	Jan 18 00:04
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/malware-vendors-buy-chrome-extensions-to-send-adware-filled-updates/	Jan 18 00:04
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Adware vendors buy Chrome Extensions to send ad- and malware-filled updates \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gg028 ]	Jan 18 00:04
Sosumi	lol :)	Jan 18 00:04
Sosumi	I guess that'd also work out with firefox	Jan 18 00:05
MinceR	when will people realize that pushing "updates" without asking is unacceptable?	Jan 18 00:05
Sosumi	and safari	Jan 18 00:05
Sosumi	the common user? never	Jan 18 00:06
Sosumi	duno if IE accepts extensions	Jan 18 00:06
MinceR	of course it does	Jan 18 00:06
MinceR	toolbars, primarily	Jan 18 00:06
Sosumi	ho, those	Jan 18 00:07
Sosumi	lol	Jan 18 00:07
Sosumi	I've heard of the malignant IE toolbars	Jan 18 00:10
Sosumi	but at least I've been fortunate enough to never see them	Jan 18 00:11
MinceR	gn	Jan 18 00:27
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schestowitz__	Avoid #ixquick aka #startpage - it ceased being about #privacy (like #ddg now) https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3527347 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3527349 the company confirms	Jan 18 02:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I can no longer use or recommend #startpage and #iquick - expanded from .NL to NYC (NYPD/FBI/NSA), uses MSFT for images, does #google ads	Jan 18 02:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's easy to assume that #iquick lost its commitment to #privacy now, just like #DDG (Amazon). "google is everywhere" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520345	Jan 18 02:04
TechrightsBot-tr	Not a Diaspora post?	Jan 18 02:04
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3523012	Jan 18 02:10
TechrightsBot-tr	@anonymiss@despora.de: ### How do you recognize the NSA #headquarter?	Jan 18 02:10
schestowitz__	says she's violating the constitution, but they taught her how to close that pesky warning window	Jan 18 02:10
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MinceR	schestowitz__: so what's next? google via Tor?	Jan 18 13:45
MinceR	geekings	Jan 18 13:55
iophk	http://seekingalpha.com/news/1510211-microsoft-reportedly-paying-oems-2_6b-in-2014-to-make-windows-phones	Jan 18 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr	seekingalpha.com \| Microsoft Corporation (MSFT): Microsoft reportedly paying OEMs $2.6B in 2014 to make Windows Phones - Seeking Alpha [ http://ur1.ca/gg43h ]	Jan 18 15:29
iophk	http://seekingalpha.com/news/1512031	Jan 18 15:30
TechrightsBot-tr	seekingalpha.com \| Microsoft Corporation (MSFT): Microsoft denies WP payment report; Xbox exec departs - Seeking Alpha	Jan 18 15:30
iophk	what are the real numbers then?	Jan 18 15:30
Sosumi	so, windows mobile is so bad that M$ has to bribe OEMs	Jan 18 15:41
Sosumi	lol	Jan 18 15:41
iophk	yes, like with regular windows, too.	Jan 18 15:41
Sosumi	well, captain obvious :)	Jan 18 15:41
Sosumi	hopefully in the future OEMs will start shipping PCs with android out of the box for some limited functionality	Jan 18 15:43
MinceR	hopefully that android won't have to be virtualized on top of winblows	Jan 18 15:44
Sosumi	like downloading some flavor of gnu/linux, bsd and creating an usb stick	Jan 18 15:44
Sosumi	for install	Jan 18 15:44
MinceR	(building a castle on a swamp...)	Jan 18 15:44
Sosumi	and we'd finally get rid of the windows tax	Jan 18 15:45
Sosumi	AND, the OEMs would no longer have to deal with M$	Jan 18 15:46
Sosumi	so, both the customer and the OEM would win	Jan 18 15:46
Sosumi	specially in peace of mind	Jan 18 15:46
Sosumi	ho, I meant native android	Jan 18 15:52
Sosumi	just to give basic functionality to the machine for those reasons I mentioned	Jan 18 15:52
Sosumi	basically just to download a OS and create a bootable USB/cd	Jan 18 15:53
iophk	http://www.roguelynn.com/prism/	Jan 18 16:24
iophk	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q31as1qpkvw	Jan 18 16:24
iophk	from August	Jan 18 16:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.roguelynn.com \| PRISM-as-a-Service: Not Subject to American Law — Lynn Root	Jan 18 16:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| PRISM-AS-A-SERVICE: Not Subject to American Law - Lynn Root - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gg5q5 ]	Jan 18 16:27
iophk	http://en.rsf.org/turkey-parliament-urged-to-rejected-18-01-2014,45745.html	Jan 18 16:37
TechrightsBot-tr	en.rsf.org \| Parliament urged to rejected draconian Internet bill - Reporters Without Borders [ http://ur1.ca/gg5r7 ]	Jan 18 16:37
iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/01/18/how-policymakers-enabled-the-internet/	Jan 18 16:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| How Policymakers Enabled The Internet - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gg5se ]	Jan 18 16:42
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MinceR	http://kep.cdn.index.hu/1/0/535/5358/53584/5358486_6283c6b5519441f832b9fd6299c0c1ee_wm.jpg	Jan 18 17:52
Sosumi	still better than newer versions of vista failing to boot with secure boot enabled	Jan 18 18:48
Sosumi	and instead they enter into some repair mode and force you to shutdown	Jan 18 18:48
Sosumi	just saw that happen at an university workstation this morning	Jan 18 18:49
Sosumi	and I should also mention that it had been updated to vista 8.1 enterprise like 3 days ago	Jan 18 18:50
Sosumi	after turning it on again it just loaded winblows with no problem	Jan 18 18:51
Sosumi	also, no error report generated	Jan 18 18:51
Sosumi	or I just couldn't find it	Jan 18 18:51
Sosumi	morals of the story	Jan 18 18:57
Sosumi	M$ can't even make their stuff work well on the crap they shovel onto others	Jan 18 18:57
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Sosumi	aka secure boot	Jan 18 18:58
iophk	http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/2014-year-you-play-penguin	Jan 18 19:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcper.com \| Is 2014 the year you play with the penguin? \| PC Perspective [ http://ur1.ca/gg7xn ]	Jan 18 19:16
MinceR	newer versions probably leak that info all the same	Jan 18 19:38
MinceR	possibly without even asking	Jan 18 19:38
MinceR	though the article this was in said they sent the report anyway	Jan 18 19:39
Sosumi	http://torrentfreak.com/the-20-most-pirated-artists-of-the-year-a-drop-in-the-ocean-140116/	Jan 18 19:40
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| The 20 Most Pirated Artists of The Year: A Drop in The Ocean? \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gg835 ]	Jan 18 19:40
Sosumi	after reading the chart, some part of me died	Jan 18 19:40
Sosumi	what the hell is even a flo rida?	Jan 18 19:41
Sosumi	but ho well	Jan 18 19:41
MinceR	:>	Jan 18 19:42
Sosumi	I just finished "pirating" tchaikovski's entire discography	Jan 18 19:42
Sosumi	in flac ofc	Jan 18 19:43
Sosumi	so I guess I'll be a happy camper for the rest of the weekend	Jan 18 19:43
MinceR	:)	Jan 18 19:48
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iophk	http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/hardware/slumping-intel-to-cut-more-than-5000-jobs-in-2014/articleshow/28989318.cms	Jan 18 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	economictimes.indiatimes.com \| Slumping Intel to cut more than 5,000 jobs in 2014 - The Economic Times [ http://ur1.ca/gg87t ]	Jan 18 19:59
schestowitz__	cool	Jan 18 19:59
schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences	Jan 18 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/4qw0f ]	Jan 18 20:02
iophk	IBM is re-investing in PowerPC ...	Jan 18 20:02
iophk	but that will be mostly servers	Jan 18 20:02
iophk	Oracle dropped the ball when it got Sparc. It could have done really well.	Jan 18 20:03
MinceR	oracle could have done many things well, and did none of it	Jan 18 20:03
iophk	True	Jan 18 20:03
schestowitz__	!google larry ellison nsa	Jan 18 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Oracle CEO Larry Ellison: NSA surveillance is "essential" - CBS News \| http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-nsa-surveillance-is-essential/	Jan 18 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Larry Ellison: NSA Spying Is 'Essential' - Business Insider \| http://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-nsa-spying-is-essential-2013-8	Jan 18 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Oracle's Larry Ellison calls Google 'absolutely evil,' says NSA ... \| http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/13/4617690/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-cbs-this-morning-full-interview	Jan 18 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Larry Ellison, Oracle CEO: NSA Surveillance Is 'Great' - Huffington Post \| http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-nsa_n_3752312.html	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	CBS 'news'	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	Business Insider is funded by Anderrseen	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	Who is STRONGLY pro-NSA	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	and also slams Wikileaks et al.	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	Just shows you how US press works	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	[4] is AOL	Jan 18 20:05
schestowitz__	so much for Huff Puff serving the public	Jan 18 20:05
schestowitz__	like guardian.... in the UK... mere pretenders	Jan 18 20:05
schestowitz__	hijacking the voice of the people	Jan 18 20:05
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Sosumi	http://rt.com/usa/texas-police-handcuff-change-homeless-795/	Jan 18 20:51
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gg8lt ]	Jan 18 20:51
Sosumi	eugenics and neo-darwinism at best	Jan 18 20:51
Sosumi	Texas cops handcuff man after he gave change to homeless person	Jan 18 20:51
Sosumi	if he's unfit to survive, let him die	Jan 18 20:51
Sosumi	survival of the fittest, until...	Jan 18 20:51
Sosumi	you look at the system and all you see are the now "unfit" trying to hold power	Jan 18 20:51
MinceR	survival of the fittest? good bye, humans...	Jan 18 20:51
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Sosumi	you are human too, you know?	Jan 18 20:51
Sosumi	or have you already transcended your humanity and thus your mortality by uploading your consciousness into the web?	Jan 18 20:51
MinceR	and i might not live forever, either	Jan 18 20:54
Sosumi	that is why you employ redundancy	Jan 18 20:54
Sosumi	plus, even if that was actually the case, your copy would be just another life, but with your memories, free to do whatever "it" wanted	Jan 18 20:56
Sosumi	on that I oppose ray kurzweil and some other nuttjobs	Jan 18 20:56
Sosumi	and I'm more about preserving the original being rather than letting his body wither and die	Jan 18 20:56
Sosumi	and relying on a copy that is no longer the real being	Jan 18 20:57
MinceR	and how do you know that?	Jan 18 20:57
Sosumi	and if we talk just mind upload	Jan 18 20:57
Sosumi	it doesn't even have the genetic predispositions of the original	Jan 18 20:57
Sosumi	it is simple, there will be a point in which the original and copy will diverge in choices and choose different paths	Jan 18 20:58
Sosumi	even if the probability of that happening is small	Jan 18 20:59
Sosumi	specially if the copy doesn't know it is a copy	Jan 18 20:59
MinceR	so, in the many-worlds interpretation, you're not yourself?	Jan 18 21:01
Sosumi	I'm a different me in another world	Jan 18 21:01
Sosumi	in a different world I might have taken upon myself the career of a porn director	Jan 18 21:01
Sosumi	instead of a physicist/computer scientist	Jan 18 21:03
Sosumi	still student, but who cares	Jan 18 21:03
Sosumi	maybe in another world I might have been born with a different gender	Jan 18 21:03
Sosumi	still me, but a different me,	Jan 18 21:03
Sosumi	in other words, a different possibility and a being with its own experiences/memories	Jan 18 21:04
Sosumi	but maybe if you take some lsd, you'll find out	Jan 18 21:13
Sosumi	but I can guarantee that there'll be some side effects	Jan 18 21:13
Sosumi	like changing the font on your pc to helvetica neue	Jan 18 21:13
Sosumi	:P	Jan 18 21:13
MinceR	ew	Jan 18 21:13
Sosumi	there had to be some apple jokes at one point	Jan 18 21:14
Sosumi	in this case two	Jan 18 21:14
Sosumi	the porn director joke and the lsd joke	Jan 18 21:15
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DaemonFC	schestowitz: We need to keep an eye out on what happens to Product Activation after Windows XP goes EOL.	Jan 18 22:45
DaemonFC	If Microsoft stops activating re-installs of Windows XP, we should be sure to beat them over the head with that and remind users of supported versions what will happen to them later.	Jan 18 22:45
DaemonFC	XP is the first version of Windows with Product Activation that is going to go end of life. It has been about 13 years since I first wondered what would happen when XP went EOL. It took a long time for the answer because Microsoft didn't plan to support Windows XP for even half as long as they did. The Windows "Longhorn" / Vista catastrophe set them back several years, and they ended up having to extend Windows XP's lifecycle to cover all of the	Jan 18 22:50
DaemonFC	people that refused Vista. Post-Vista PC sales have been slowing down, especially lately, because many people are moving to Android phones and tablets, and many people see their existing XP machines that can't run the latest bloated versions of Windows as "good enough" to run their office software and web browser.	Jan 18 22:50
MinceR	this is relevant to my interests	Jan 18 22:51
DaemonFC	MinceR: Well, there are like millions and millions of people who might have activation difficulties after April.	Jan 18 22:51
DaemonFC	Their computers can't run anything newer from Microsoft.	Jan 18 22:51
MinceR	maybe it will be a learning experience for them	Jan 18 22:52
DaemonFC	I suspect they'll be pissed, if they understand what just happened.	Jan 18 22:52
MinceR	http://www.queerty.com/the-closet-cases-that-fan-the-flames-of-russian-homophobia-20140114/	Jan 18 23:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.queerty.com \| The Closet Cases That Fan The Flames Of Russian Homophobia / Queerty [ http://ur1.ca/gg9ho ]	Jan 18 23:06
*rysiek\|pl is now known as ood		Jan 18 23:10
Sosumi	you know, those folks still using xp and that don't want to change to something better	Jan 18 23:14
Sosumi	could always use a crack	Jan 18 23:14
Sosumi	but indeed the activation issue, if m$ pulls the plug	Jan 18 23:15
Sosumi	will be a good a bashing point	Jan 18 23:15
DaemonFC	shared a link via Lifehacker.	Jan 18 23:22
DaemonFC	5 minutes ago	Jan 18 23:22
DaemonFC	http://lifehac.kr/BtQeKZb	Jan 18 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	lifehacker.com \| Winamp Rises From the Ashes, Will Live On Under Radionomy	Jan 18 23:22
DaemonFC	That's not good, because Winamp is proprietary software, and the world would be better off if there was no proprietary software at all.	Jan 18 23:22
DaemonFC	I used to use Winamp when I used Windows 98, which came with this awful unusable media player from Microsoft called Windows Media Player. But, that was back when Nullsoft was an independent company, before AOL took it over, and Justin Frankel was still in charge. After AOL took Winamp over, it ballooned in size because of their adware, spyware, and spam. It went from this efficient media player that was under 10 MB in size to this huge bloated	Jan 18 23:22
DaemonFC	monstrosity that was just as bad as anything Microsoft has ever written.	Jan 18 23:22
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MERGE
DaemonFC	Piers Anthony worked in a little song about Coke in his book Companions of Xanth.	Jan 12 00:36
DaemonFC	"Coca Cola, stinky drink, pour it down the kitchen sink! Smells like vinegar and tastes like ink....."	Jan 12 00:36
DaemonFC	no, wait, I think he called it Choke-a-Cola.	Jan 12 00:36
DaemonFC	Trademark issues I guess.	Jan 12 00:37
MinceR	:D	Jan 12 00:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android eyewear offers virtual, augmented	Jan 12 01:08
TweetTuxMachines	reality http://t.co/o2MuRa4XAD	Jan 12 01:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge50i	Jan 12 01:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Android eyewear offers virtual, augmented reality \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 01:08
DaemonFC	http://i.imgur.com/20InuRv.png	Jan 12 01:50
DaemonFC	Uhhm, that can't be right.	Jan 12 01:50
MinceR	yup	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	It is?	Jan 12 01:51
MinceR	unless they have a time machine or something	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	oh	Jan 12 01:51
MinceR	i mean, it can't be right	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	I was going to say.	Jan 12 01:51
MinceR	:)	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	Looks like it goes into 5-6 months from now.	Jan 12 01:51
DaemonFC	We're only 11 days into 2014.	Jan 12 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cell security in Apache HBase	Jan 12 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jYrgD7I7Gt	Jan 12 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge5iy	Jan 12 01:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Cell security in Apache HBase \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 01:51
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Sosumi	want to hear a joke	Jan 12 02:23
Sosumi	crapple only allows 40 seconds on custom tones for the iphone	Jan 12 02:23
Sosumi	apparently, more would violating copyright	Jan 12 02:24
Sosumi	*be	Jan 12 02:24
MinceR	:)	Jan 12 02:26
MinceR	gn	Jan 12 02:26
Sosumi	yes, but it's not over yet	Jan 12 02:27
Sosumi	I got a friend of wants the theme from "007 the man with the golden gun"	Jan 12 02:27
Sosumi	for his new gold iphone 5s	Jan 12 02:27
Sosumi	and I'm laughing hard because of how much hyped the entire time about having that song as a ringtone	Jan 12 02:28
Sosumi	*he hyped	Jan 12 02:28
*Sosumi is sleepy		Jan 12 02:28
Sosumi	will he return his "precious"	Jan 12 02:29
Sosumi	poor smeagel	Jan 12 02:29
Sosumi	rofl	Jan 12 02:29
MinceR	pathetic	Jan 12 02:29
MinceR	also, it would be a step backwards for bond, who used to have a nokia smartphone	Jan 12 02:30
MinceR	(back when nokia made smartphones)	Jan 12 02:30
Sosumi	actually I remember him using ericson	Jan 12 02:30
Sosumi	yeah, tomorrow never dies to present movies	Jan 12 02:32
Sosumi	were either ericson or sony-ericson	Jan 12 02:32
Sosumi	but ho well, enough with the laugher	Jan 12 02:34
Sosumi	to be I go	Jan 12 02:34
Sosumi	GN	Jan 12 02:34
MinceR	:)	Jan 12 02:34
MinceR	oh, what i thought was a nokia was a sony ericsson, apparently	Jan 12 02:35
MinceR	http://www.stuff.tv/5-best-james-bond-phones/news	Jan 12 02:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.stuff.tv \| 5 of the best James Bond phones \| Stuff [ http://ur1.ca/ge63g ]	Jan 12 02:35
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DaemonFC	I'm making chicken sandwiches and french fries. :)	Jan 12 05:18
DaemonFC	ALDI's "southern style" chicken patties are pretty good.	Jan 12 05:18
DaemonFC	And $2 a bag cheaper than Tyson.	Jan 12 05:18
DaemonFC	I love going to ALDI, the total doesn't ring up as fast as it does at other grocery stores. :)	Jan 12 05:19
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DaemonFC	The Playstation 4 is beating the XBOX 360.	Jan 12 09:56
DaemonFC	err, XBOX One, I meant	Jan 12 09:56
DaemonFC	The latest sales data says that PS 4 has sold about 5 million units, while XBOX One has sold about 3 million.	Jan 12 09:56
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 09:59
DaemonFC	Gorilla Glass 4 is apparently going to have ionic silver in the glass to kill germs.	Jan 12 09:59
DaemonFC	My LG G2 has Gorilla Glass 3, which doesn't kill germs, but it is 40% more damage resistant than the screen on the iPhone 5S. The iPhone 5S screens shatter so often that Apple stores make even more money off of most customers, by charging them $150 to replace the glass. :)	Jan 12 09:59
DaemonFC	The LG G2 is just an awesome phone.	Jan 12 10:00
DaemonFC	Haven't found anything to complain about.	Jan 12 10:00
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iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/12/web-tool-democracy-tim-berners-lee	Jan 12 10:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Two decades on, we must preserve the internet as a tool of democracy \| Technology \| The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/ge9sk ]	Jan 12 10:52
iophk	"Close to the principle of universality is that of decentralisation, which means that no permission is needed from a central authority to post anything on the web, there is no central controlling node, and so no single point of failure,"	Jan 12 10:53
iophk	That goes against his promotion of DRM	Jan 12 10:53
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DaemonFC	It would be nice if Fedora's build of Firefox supported h264.	Jan 12 11:18
DaemonFC	I don't like Chrome and I also don't like having to download Firefox from Mozilla.	Jan 12 11:18
schestowitz	"Thieving creates jobs, apparently. Ask Microsoft. Its crimes drove many people out of work so that Gates becomes richest in the world and does a little 'trickle-down' bu hiring cheap MS staff in India."	Jan 12 11:38
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507646	Jan 12 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cross-licensing and patent pools have another name: price-fixing, cartel, collusion. But if we called them that, state would not protect it.	Jan 12 11:38
schestowitz	"The state is very much protecting those cartels. They have been confused with national interest."	Jan 12 11:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507651	Jan 12 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fbi shows which side it's on, and it's not the people's, it's the oligarchs' http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/09/261115874/the-fbis-comey-on-snowden-confused-by-hero-talk	Jan 12 11:39
schestowitz	"It's amazing to see people say things like Comey does. He should be removed from office for malfeasance and incompetence based on what he says in that article."	Jan 12 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.npr.org \| FBI Director 'Confused' By Reports Calling Snowden A Hero : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/ge1wf ]	Jan 12 11:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3509482	Jan 12 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Terrorist" used to mean very specific thing.These days can mean activism, journalism, regulation, software development, attending protests.	Jan 12 11:40
schestowitz	"It can also mean demolition contracting, bee-keeping, coffee-mornings, and chain-saw meets…."	Jan 12 11:40
DaemonFC	schestowitz: Three of the top five selling laptops on Amazon are running GNU/Linux (Chrome OS).	Jan 12 11:45
DaemonFC	It's been the #1 for many months now (the Samsung model) but now it's #1, #2, and #5.	Jan 12 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On Slow News Days... http://t.co/mvY4d4HFbp	Jan 12 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gea9k	Jan 12 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| On Slow News Days... \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 12:03
Sosumi	crapple in order to charge more on damaged iphones	Jan 12 12:21
Sosumi	fused the glass to the lcd panel	Jan 12 12:21
Sosumi	so, crack the glass, replace both lcd+glass	Jan 12 12:22
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schestowitz	http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/global-traffic-map-2010/global-traffic-map-2010-wp1600.jpeg	Jan 12 12:30
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 12 14:00
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Jan 12 14:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Possible Features For The Linux 3.14 Kernel	Jan 12 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sQPz0PCBtD	Jan 12 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gedf8	Jan 12 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Possible Features For The Linux 3.14 Kernel \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 14:35
iophk	http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/62781-kid-who-found-ptv-website-flaw-deserves-a-medal	Jan 12 14:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itwire.com \| Kid who found PTV website flaw deserves a medal [ http://ur1.ca/geds9 ]	Jan 12 14:47
iophk	version n+1, again	Jan 12 14:52
iophk	http://m.winsupersite.com/windows-8/threshold-be-called-windows-9-ship-april-2015	Jan 12 14:52
TechrightsBot-tr	m.winsupersite.com \| "Threshold" to be Called Windows 9, Ship in April 2015 \| Windows 8 content from Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows [ http://ur1.ca/gedwf ]	Jan 12 14:52
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geers	Jan 12 15:33
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Kid who found PTV website flaw deserves a medal http://t.co/sc5pJivoG2 so does #snowden - and #Nobel should be revoked from #obama	Jan 12 15:33
schestowitz	. http://ur1.ca/geerk http://ur1.ca/geerg http://ur1.ca/geer9 http://ur1.ca/geer6	Jan 12 15:33
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schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geerk	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "we will just have vaporware, that people will stop buying 486 machines" - Nathan Myhrvold, Microsoft	Jan 12 15:37
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geerg	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Stewart Alsop, industry gadfly, presented Gates with the "Golden Vaporware" award" -Barbarians Led by Bill Gates (PR book)	Jan 12 15:37
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geer9 http://ur1.ca/geer6	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "In the face of strong competition, Evangelism's focus may shift immediately to the next version" - #Microsoft http://t.co/clpUtQdNOj	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Windows booster Paul Thurrott: "Windows 9, Ship in April 2015" - oh, don't we know this strategy? #microsoft #vaporware #freezeTheMarket	Jan 12 15:37
schestowitz	iophk: spotted a minute ago: http://ur1.ca/geesb	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #microsoft Jack says "the latest KDE and Gnome desktops consume lots of memory." He clearly hasn't tried them then. http://t.co/3kcYzrl1rR	Jan 12 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.ydr.com \| Can I upgrade my Pentium 4 PCs to a new Windows? - The York Daily Record	Jan 12 15:37
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geesf http://ur1.ca/geesi	Jan 12 15:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: My #debian box with latest #kde has just half gigabyte of RAM. I used KDE3 for 5 years with just half a gigabyte of RAM to complete a Ph.D.	Jan 12 15:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #microsoft Jack says that #gnu #linux had RAM consumption issues. Yes, unlike Windows. ಠ_ಠ	Jan 12 15:40
*amarsh04 ran KDE 3.5 in 384 MiB of RAM on a PII-266		Jan 12 15:41
schestowitz	I ran it on 256 MB of RAM	Jan 12 15:42
schestowitz	But to be fair, it was slow	Jan 12 15:42
schestowitz	i mostly used it to SSH to the half gig box	Jan 12 15:42
Sosumi	@schestowitz: #microsoft Jack says that #gnu #linux had RAM consumption issues. Yes, unlike Windows. ಠ_ಠ	Jan 12 15:43
amarsh04	and I'm still running that same installation of Debian GNU/Linux on a P4 with 1.5 GB of RAM, although I needed to recompile some kde libraries to keep running KDE 3.5 on current kernels	Jan 12 15:43
Sosumi	who has memory leakage issues	Jan 12 15:43
Sosumi	you missed that	Jan 12 15:44
amarsh04	Linus Torvalds explained that unused RAM was wasted, and had it doing caching when it wasn't needed as the working set for programs' code and data	Jan 12 15:45
Sosumi	yeah, that is an obvious use for free ram	Jan 12 15:46
Sosumi	but what I mentioned is ram vanishing	Jan 12 15:47
Sosumi	or just not clearing out	Jan 12 15:47
amarsh04	as in not available for actual use due to being allocated and not de-allocated?	Jan 12 15:47
Sosumi	yes	Jan 12 15:48
Sosumi	and sometimes disappearing	Jan 12 15:48
Sosumi	and that is still happening in osx	Jan 12 15:49
Sosumi	it happened sometimes with 10.8	Jan 12 15:49
Sosumi	but with 10.9 it got only worse	Jan 12 15:50
Sosumi	mostly triggered by apps working outside the cocoa framework	Jan 12 15:51
Sosumi	but windows kind of always suffered from that	Jan 12 15:52
iophk	(17.37.38) schestowitz: iophk: spotted a minute ago	Jan 12 15:55
iophk	However it is almost a milestone that he even mentions the distro and its variants	Jan 12 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Biggest Problem With GTK & What Qt Does	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	Good http://t.co/4MwRclRYOi	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geex2	Jan 12 16:11
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Biggest Problem With GTK & What Qt Does Good \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 16:13
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Sosumi	http://www.janes.com/article/32190/pak-fa-stealth-features-patent-published	Jan 12 16:21
TechrightsBot-tr	www.janes.com \| PAK FA stealth features patent published - IHS Jane's 360 [ http://ur1.ca/geeyk ]	Jan 12 16:21
Sosumi	I think they are doing it wrong	Jan 12 16:22
Sosumi	drone barges are the future	Jan 12 16:22
Sosumi	same could be said about the f35	Jan 12 16:22
Sosumi	aka the flying piano	Jan 12 16:22
Sosumi	aka the new comanche	Jan 12 16:23
Sosumi	and in actually developing such devices they could open know how and tech developed for automation of forward outposts	Jan 12 16:28
Sosumi	in order to kickstart real space colonization	Jan 12 16:28
iophk	networking	Jan 12 16:32
iophk	http://www.skeptech.org/blog/2013/01/13/unscrewed-a-story-about-openbsd/	Jan 12 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.skeptech.org \| Unscrewed; A story about OpenBSD \| Dave Josephsen [ http://ur1.ca/gef0i ]	Jan 12 16:32
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 17:40
DaemonFC	In Finland, you don't have to be in the army, you can do civilian public service work.	Jan 12 17:40
DaemonFC	Being in the military is not something to be proud of. I would hope that what the Bush Forces did would prove that. A lot of military recruiters simply trolled poor neighborhoods that were destroyed by right-wing economic and trade policies, looking for poor young people that really had no choice except the military or dealing drugs. It's not a choice. It's a lack of options. People should have the option of doing something that is dignified, so	Jan 12 17:40
DaemonFC	that they can live life with their head held high.	Jan 12 17:40
Sosumi	why would you be proud of playing canon fodder?	Jan 12 17:58
Sosumi	go play video games for that	Jan 12 17:58
Sosumi	so, kudos to filand	Jan 12 17:59
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 18:00
DaemonFC	For most of the history of the US, if anyone even found out you were gay, you'd be murdered by the state (if nobody else killed you first). Then when those laws were largely repealed, they changed it to life in prison. Then when that was repealed in most states (some states kept them until they were struck down in 2003), they changed it to indefinite commitment to a state "mental hospital", by the time Texas went to court, it was down to a $500	Jan 12 18:00
DaemonFC	fine. Basically the fundie way of saying "We can't do anything worse to you, but we hate you and we want to use the state to hurt you as much as we can get away with!".	Jan 12 18:00
DaemonFC	The US has a long history of persecuting gay people. And I mean real persecution, not some whinyass fundie that got her stupid book lampooned and couldn't take the criticism. The Christian Taliban used the state to do their nasty work for years. Now we're just seeing marriage discrimination laws, because it's the last hateful thing they can do to us. That will have its day in court too, and it will be thrown out.	Jan 12 18:00
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DaemonFC	http://windowsitpro.com/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/alan-mulally-formally-ends-microsoft-ceo-speculation	Jan 12 18:18
TechrightsBot-tr	windowsitpro.com \| Alan Mulally Formally Ends Microsoft CEO Speculation \| Paul Thurrotts WinInfo content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/gefj1 ]	Jan 12 18:18
DaemonFC	He did his job for them already. He got their software into Ford cars.	Jan 12 18:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EPEL 7 Development http://t.co/y5cmaDmwYh	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefnd	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 16 “Petra” Cinnamon, KDE and MATE	Jan 12 18:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| EPEL 7 Development \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	review http://t.co/KtOfCssG5X	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefne	Jan 12 18:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 16 “Petra” Cinnamon, KDE and MATE review \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.13-rc8 released; final most likely to	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	release next week http://t.co/MZewfQxMha	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefng	Jan 12 18:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.13-rc8 released; final most likely to release next week \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Richard Stallman talk on Free Digital Society	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	in Tvm on Jan 16 http://t.co/Tvo4FuQQQc	Jan 12 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefni	Jan 12 18:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Richard Stallman talk on Free Digital Society in Tvm on Jan 16 \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 18:50
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Sosumi	http://torrentfreak.com/record-label-asks-google-to-censor-artists-twitter-accounts-140112/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter	Jan 12 19:25
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Record Label Asks Google to Censor Artists’ Twitter Accounts \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/geftl ]	Jan 12 19:25
Sosumi	pffffffffff	Jan 12 19:25
Sosumi	no words to describe the amount of fail	Jan 12 19:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow	Jan 12 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RCKYmr5ft4	Jan 12 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefwk	Jan 12 19:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 19:41
Sosumi	http://blog.gsmarena.com/windows-9-may-come-out-april-of-next-year/	Jan 12 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.gsmarena.com \| Windows 9 may come out April next year - GSMArena Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gefzc ]	Jan 12 19:54
Sosumi	with metro 2.0	Jan 12 19:55
Sosumi	aka the time when windows finally gets deprecated	Jan 12 19:55
Sosumi	m$ could always force everything they do into the xbox	Jan 12 19:56
Sosumi	kind of "personal, family friendly computer" that you can use to go to facebook and show how lonely or dumb you are	Jan 12 19:56
Sosumi	kind of like the earlier consoles	Jan 12 19:57
Sosumi	like when the famicon was called a "family computer"	Jan 12 19:57
Sosumi	I wouldn't mind that,	Jan 12 19:57
iophk	http://www.salon.com/2014/01/12/the_unstoppable_rise_of_bikes/	Jan 12 19:58
Sosumi	lets up they are dumb enough for that	Jan 12 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.salon.com \| The unstoppable rise of bikes - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/geg0k ]	Jan 12 19:58
Sosumi	since ppl aren't buying new computers anyways	Jan 12 19:58
Sosumi	since what they've is already enough	Jan 12 19:58
Sosumi	and the ones that are buying kind of do it in the high end or are gamers	Jan 12 19:59
Sosumi	and specially gamers, build their own computers	Jan 12 19:59
Sosumi	so, placing the consoles as the computer for the rest of us	Jan 12 20:00
Sosumi	kind of is a business opurtunity	Jan 12 20:00
Sosumi	and the move to x86 could mean that they are considering that	Jan 12 20:00
Sosumi	if they aren't,	Jan 12 20:00
Sosumi	better kick them out of their jobs	Jan 12 20:00
Sosumi	ofc I said all this from a business perspective	Jan 12 20:01
Sosumi	inside I just want M$ to burn to the ground	Jan 12 20:01
Sosumi	baby!	Jan 12 20:01
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iophk	http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5255_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312301400_-_through_a_prism_darkly_-_kurt_opsahl.html	Jan 12 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr	media.ccc.de \| CCC-TV - Through a PRISM, Darkly [ http://ur1.ca/geg4p ]	Jan 12 20:20
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	The reason I don't use Webkit browsers is because none of them have very good extensions. Chrome is probably the best out of them, but that's not saying much. Every once in a while, it forgets to load extensions like Chrome Adblock into a new tab process, and well, that's usually when I'm browsing a bittorrent website and all kinds of porn ads show up. That never happens with Firefox.	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	I don't know why people use Chrome. It's such a horrible browser. It's not even really a web browser. Some people think it is, but it's really spyware. If you're going to use it, you should use your GNU/Linux distribution's build of Chromium instead, and change your search engine, and turn off all the options that phone home to Google (many of which are still in Chromium).	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	At least you can trust Chromium to do what it says it does. It is stripped of all the proprietary software that's in Chrome and built from publicly available source code. So we know that there aren't any nasty surprises and backdoors that Google is slipping into the proprietary binary-only builds of Chrome.	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	Last edited by you 3 minutes ago	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	I wouldn't use any other browser than Firefox. Ever. I use it exclusively on my desktop, and on my Android phone. It's the only browser that does what I want it to do. It's the only browser that I trust. It's the only browser that takes security seriously. Sure, Chrome might be secure from bad guys other than Google, but Google can still see everything you're doing with it. The sandbox helper even has setuid root, which means that Google can do	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	anything to your system files as well, even though your user account doesn't own them.	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	I agree that Google isn't much better than Apple, but they're the best option out of the hardware that's out there right now. I don't use Google services on my phone that much. I use DuckDuckGo as my search engine. I really hope that next time I upgrade my phone, that I can get one with Firefox OS. That sounds really nice. There's no reason why all apps shouldn't be web apps. Firefox is definitely powerful enough to enable that sort of	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	functionality. The big question is what kind of hardware partners they'll get. The one they announced the other day was a disappointment. It was Via, which is a third rate x86 processor company that has been particularly hostile to Free and Open Source Software in the past, and GNU/Linux in particular. I hope they do better than this. I was hoping they'd just use Snapdragon processors or something decent like that.	Jan 12 20:32
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 20:33
DaemonFC	Nobody really cares about Microsoft anymore. The only thing worse than being stuck with an iPhone would be getting stuck with Windows Phone. It's got all the same problems that iPhone does, plus the fact that all of the apps available for it are a joke. There's not even a spotify app. Internet Explorer? LOL	Jan 12 20:33
DaemonFC	Hey! Is that a Pocket Internet Explorer or are you just happy to see me? :)	Jan 12 20:33
Sosumi	http://www.cio.com/article/745769/Review_It_s_Easy_to_Fall_in_Love_with_Her_	Jan 12 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.cio.com \| Review: It's Easy to Fall in Love with 'Her' - CIO.com [ http://ur1.ca/geg7n ]	Jan 12 20:42
Sosumi	"The new film by Spike Jones offers a 'surprisingly believable' love story between man and machine."	Jan 12 20:42
Sosumi	aka, makes a nice starting point to discuss artificial life	Jan 12 20:43
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Sosumi	oracle says they'll come with a fix for around 36 bugs this week	Jan 12 21:17
Sosumi	knowing oracle	Jan 12 21:17
Sosumi	I wander how many times 36 bugs and exploits, their fix is going to originate	Jan 12 21:18
Sosumi	and to tell the truth, I kind of prefer sandboxing to java	Jan 12 21:19
Sosumi	for isolation	Jan 12 21:19
Sosumi	and I've just tried a bit of xonotic	Jan 12 22:40
Sosumi	and it's awesome	Jan 12 22:40
Sosumi	plays just like quake	Jan 12 22:40
Sosumi	and doesn't look fugly	Jan 12 22:40
DaemonFC	venussansfurs says:	Jan 12 23:16
DaemonFC	Does every parent regardless of income get a child tax subsidy or do you have to be below a certain income?	Jan 12 23:16
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 23:16
DaemonFC	You get a tax deduction for every dependent that you declare. There's no income limit, but it's a fixed amount for each deduction. You can claim the deduction on an unlimited number of dependents. You can even use it to get back more than you paid in taxes. It's a refundable credit like EITC.	Jan 12 23:16
DaemonFC	I remember reading that when the IRS started requiring the Social Security number of every child a parent was claiming (in the mid 80s), something like 7 million children disappeared from one tax year to the next. ;)	Jan 12 23:16
MinceR	gn	Jan 12 23:48
DaemonFC	http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/21/us/haircut-grounded-clinton-while-the-price-took-off.html	Jan 13 00:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nytimes.com \| Haircut Grounded Clinton While the Price Took Off - New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gei45 ]	Jan 13 00:15
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3UIVJUW395JXN	Jan 13 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Xtian Taliban Fundie is shocked, SHOCKED to discover that gay people have the right to freedom of speech just like the bigot Phil Robertson. So, she freaks out and yanks her own book down to escape the onslaught of perfectly reasonable criticism. [ http://ur1.ca/gei9f ]	Jan 13 00:24
Sosumi	that is making it sound like gay ppl are not just a standard human being	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	Linda Harvey. "Maybe He's Not Gay!"	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	Maybe he's bi.	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	Or transgendered.	Jan 13 00:25
DaemonFC	In fact, he could be putting on your make up and dressing up in your clothes while you're not at home! The underwear is a comfort thing. It really is. He swears.	Jan 13 00:25
Sosumi	I thought no underwear was the comfortable way	Jan 13 00:26
Sosumi	silly me	Jan 13 00:26
Sosumi	but those gay articles are kind of laughable	Jan 13 00:28
Sosumi	always	Jan 13 00:28
Sosumi	because at the end of the day	Jan 13 00:29
Sosumi	does it really matter? what a dude or dudete does?	Jan 13 00:29
Sosumi	I thought there were more important issues around	Jan 13 00:30
Sosumi	if it is about gay marriage, just legalize it	Jan 13 00:30
Sosumi	marries who wants to marry and that is it	Jan 13 00:30
Sosumi	period	Jan 13 00:30
Sosumi	no big deal	Jan 13 00:30
DaemonFC	I don't know what the big deal is.	Jan 13 00:31
DaemonFC	Women have found me attractive and I didn't recoil in horror over it.	Jan 13 00:32
DaemonFC	Or start acting weird.	Jan 13 00:32
Sosumi	lol, why would you start acting acting weird?	Jan 13 00:39
Sosumi	that of acting weird sounds like some pre-conceived idea taken from some dumb movie like "the american pie"	Jan 13 00:42
Sosumi	but if dealing with ppl is hard	Jan 13 00:49
Sosumi	there are always nice social eng. books	Jan 13 00:50
Sosumi	and psychology books	Jan 13 00:50
Sosumi	which may help in understanding the human psyche	Jan 13 00:51
Sosumi	but in the end folks will need to field test what they've learned	Jan 13 00:51
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Sosumi	so in the end it is like reading a kung-fu book without actually practicing it	Jan 13 00:53
Sosumi	:)	Jan 13 00:53
Sosumi	anyways GN	Jan 13 00:53
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mattl/status/422584624439521280 https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/422579344456679424	Jan 13 05:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@mattl: @mjg59 "What's the deal with @schestowitz anyway?"	Jan 13 05:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@mjg59: Still, overall, it's nice to have a third party confirm that I'm pretty good at comedy: https://t.co/JTLI1HRc6L	Jan 13 05:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Joke of the Day: #Microsoft ‘Freedom’ http://t.co/SaVhmz0W7s Matthew Garrett now a stand-up comedian.	Jan 13 05:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/422591821621907456	Jan 13 05:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@mjg59: @mattl Best comedy	Jan 13 05:36
schestowitz	now works for https://www.nebula.com/	Jan 13 05:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nebula.com \| Nebula One: World's First Cloud Computer. OpenStack Private Cloud	Jan 13 05:37
schestowitz	founded by "he forged partnerships with Google and Microsoft and helped create Google Moon, Google Mars, and Microsoft World Wide Telescope"	Jan 13 05:38
schestowitz	https://www.nebula.com/blog/2012/10/18/who-we-are-and-how-we-came-be/	Jan 13 05:43
schestowitz	"nebula.com/"	Jan 13 05:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nebula.com \| Nebula: Who We Are And How We Came To Be — Nebula One: World's First Cloud Computer. OpenStack Private Cloud [ http://ur1.ca/gemfu ]	Jan 13 05:43
schestowitz	"Several weeks later the trio formed stealth company “Fourth Paradigm Development”, a tribute to the influential ideas of Microsoft Researcher Dr. Jim Gray. In May, 2011 Nebula closed a Series-A investment led by Kleiner Perkins Caufield and Byers and Highland Capital Partners with participation from Google's first three investors Andy Bechtolsheim, Ram Shriram, and David Cheriton and several other high profile investors."	Jan 13 05:43
schestowitz	https://www.nebula.com/static/launch_press_release.pdf	Jan 13 05:45
schestowitz	"assembles team from NASA, Google, Amazon and Microsoft"	Jan 13 05:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	Netbooks http://t.co/jjyJb0sY51	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gemt4	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Dominated Apple At CES	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DAJfS26xTL	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gemt5	Jan 13 06:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For Netbooks \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab Enterprise Linux and Black Lab Linux	Jan 13 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	for Education released http://t.co/CVWlkCAXiE	Jan 13 06:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Dominated Apple At CES \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gemt6	Jan 13 06:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Black Lab Enterprise Linux and Black Lab Linux for Education released \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Core i3/i5/i7 Ubuntu Linux Performance	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	Update http://t.co/TTid7bTrNM	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gen6x	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Epic OpenShot 2.0 Update!(Part 2 of 3)	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NoM8NCFXNG	Jan 13 08:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel Core i3/i5/i7 Ubuntu Linux Performance Update \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gen6y	Jan 13 08:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Epic OpenShot 2.0 Update!(Part 2 of 3) \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 08:12
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 13 09:25
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iophk	http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-04-Is-More-Secure-Than-Windows-8-and-Mac-OS-X-Says-UK-Goverment-416016.shtml	Jan 13 13:59
TechrightsBot-tr	news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 12.04 Is More Secure Than Windows 8 and Mac OS X, Says UK Goverment [ http://ur1.ca/geor2 ]	Jan 13 14:00
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Sosumi	https://twitter.com/KeepingtheLeith/status/421857469103501312/photo/1	Jan 13 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@KeepingtheLeith: Jabhat al-Nusra....a gay rights supporter? This is one of the commanders of Jabhat al-Nusra...no further comment.... http://t.co/5RwCDiuA1W	Jan 13 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@KeepingtheLeith: Jabhat al-Nusra....a gay rights supporter? This is one of the commanders of Jabhat al-Nusra...no further comment.... http://t.co/5RwCDiuA1W	Jan 13 14:23
Sosumi	lawl	Jan 13 14:23
Sosumi	lawl^900000000000000000000	Jan 13 14:24
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Sosumi	male terrorists in drag with guns	Jan 13 14:25
Sosumi	couldn't make that up	Jan 13 14:26
Sosumi	when will bones's man kerry and warnuts maccain jump to defend the inflow of guns into the "rebels"	Jan 13 14:27
Sosumi	perhaps they, Kerry and Maccain, are in some kind of fetish I've never heard off	Jan 13 14:31
iophk	http://insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/UK-Gov-Report-Summary.pdf	Jan 13 14:45
iophk	restricted boot is mistakenly seen as a security enhancement there	Jan 13 14:46
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iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/01/12/jolla-review-some-rough-edges-but-this-linux-smartphone-shows-promise/	Jan 13 14:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gep2y ]	Jan 13 14:58
iophk	http://www.itworld.com/operating-systems/390781/unix-book-review-perl-one-liners	Jan 13 15:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itworld.com \| Unix: Book review -- Perl one-liners \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gep69 ]	Jan 13 15:18
iophk	old - http://ursecta.com/wp/2011/03/dr-dobbs-circling-the-drain/	Jan 13 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr	ursecta.com \| ursecta.com – Dr Dobbs circling the drain [ http://ur1.ca/gep8v ]	Jan 13 15:29
iophk	"not a classic Microsoft apologist" but another kind it appears	Jan 13 15:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.14 May Bring Big VMware GPU Driver	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Update http://t.co/912RvziWAB	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geql7	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/QHJzA24FXP	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.14 May Bring Big VMware GPU Driver Update \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/422806310145380352	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/LAfGVK1kKF	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geql9	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kali Linux 1.0.6 released. Cryptsetup has	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	“nuclear option” integrated	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NhPoPXlWxP	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geqla	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/qniBGzI1Fa	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Kali Linux 1.0.6 released. Cryptsetup has “nuclear option” integrated \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geqlb	Jan 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 19:04
Sosumi	and again, label me surprised on how a "free" game like xonotic can be so good	Jan 13 19:05
Sosumi	and I actually love the soundtrack on the levels	Jan 13 19:05
Sosumi	quite catchy tunes	Jan 13 19:05
MinceR	shouldn't be surprising	Jan 13 19:06
MinceR	free software can be pretty good; gratis mods for games also can be pretty good	Jan 13 19:07
Sosumi	but I am surprised nonetheless	Jan 13 19:10
Sosumi	and most free software has plenty of corporate backers	Jan 13 19:10
Sosumi	xonotic doesn't seem to the case	Jan 13 19:11
Sosumi	and that is why I'm surprised	Jan 13 19:11
Sosumi	because of how it turned out to be	Jan 13 19:12
Sosumi	without any sponsorship	Jan 13 19:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3513245	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by skywalker1977@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ece8a0a4fc294a1465ce.jpg	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	"Whoa! Where?"	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3513782	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: People trying to walk against the wind in Norway	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> imgur.com \| People trying to walk against the wind in Norway - Imgur	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	"The video version ;-) http://youtu.be/rKUipxR3bDc "	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Walkin' in the Wind: People blown over in streets as Storm Ivar hits Norway - YouTube	Jan 13 19:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3511244	Jan 13 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### #Profit is not a human value	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	"That is because you are a right-wing capitalist plain & simple, no matter what labels or flag color you adopt to conceal your true political orientation."	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	"Allrighty then."	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3514668	Jan 13 20:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best Email clients for Linux http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/best-email-clients-linux/19051 #gnu #linux	Jan 13 20:00
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Best Email clients for Linux \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/geqzf ]	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	"will there ever be a Worst linux email clients article ?"	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	Would be pointless because one can just make the list by making a crap app in one afternoon	Jan 13 20:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3510965	Jan 13 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/756628-7-reasons-android-will-grow-on-the-desktop/ #linux with many apps	Jan 13 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.linux.com \| 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow \| Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/geqzt ]	Jan 13 20:02
schestowitz	"Android, by itself, is fine. The problems are the proprietary Google applications generally bundled with it. We only need an easy tool to get rid of them and it would be a great improvement over Windows or OS X (although I still prefer to run completely Free Software OSses with no proprietary software installed by default)."	Jan 13 20:02
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3514668	Jan 13 20:04
schestowitz	"I was an expert in the field :-) I did miss some more information about crypto facilities ."	Jan 13 20:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Who's afraid of Linux, anyway?	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9kNplbyt6c	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger6x	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Client Side Decoration Improvements Land In	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	GTK+ http://t.co/8JwoPkbTVy	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger6y	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Who's afraid of Linux, anyway? \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Email clients for Linux	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pqk1sVu4rh	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger6z	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Client Side Decoration Improvements Land In GTK+ \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Email clients for Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	Smartphone Shows Promise http://t.co/qxODBXJSHw	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger70	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 Is More Secure Than Windows 8 and	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	Mac OS X, Says UK Government	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iFfPZQCPHo	Jan 13 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger72	Jan 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 12.04 Is More Secure Than Windows 8 and Mac OS X, Says UK Government \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:27
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3513664	Jan 13 21:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Monsanto in India https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/283704_431803686914913_779273093_n.jpg farming with poisons	Jan 13 21:04
schestowitz	"This is what people needs: poisonous food. Good job Monsanto!"	Jan 13 21:04
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKlQw00vJeA	Jan 13 21:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Monsanto Agent Orange - Vietnam - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gergn ]	Jan 13 21:05
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htQkVRF68qg&feature=related	Jan 13 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Monsanto: Bovine Growth Hormones, GMO Food and Pig Patent Applications - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gergy ]	Jan 13 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GTK3 Version Of Firefox Up For Fedora Testing	Jan 13 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aOTWCtmMba	Jan 13 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geri9	Jan 13 21:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GTK3 Version Of Firefox Up For Fedora Testing \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 21:13
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Gekko2010/status/422840033742454784	Jan 13 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@Gekko2010: @schestowitz It must be worrying that spying is being used more a political tool to discredit the intellectual opponents of the US.	Jan 13 21:41
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/new-leaks-offer-a-few-more-peeks-at-normandy-nokias-android-phone/	Jan 13 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| New leaks offer a few more peeks at “Normandy,” Nokia’s Android phone \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ges7e ]	Jan 13 22:52
Sosumi	so m$nokia going for android in order to coerce ppl into skype and outlook?	Jan 13 22:52
Sosumi	on the low end asha category	Jan 13 22:53
Sosumi	because winblows mobile is way too heavy	Jan 13 22:53
Sosumi	lol	Jan 13 22:53
Sosumi	those dirty tricks	Jan 13 22:53
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MinceR	gn	Jan 13 23:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 13.04 Received Its Last Major Kernel	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	Update http://t.co/wQZFL4AZSO	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/get7g	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Those Krazy Kids & KDE http://t.co/P1FKhl0LM7	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/get7h	Jan 14 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 13.04 Received Its Last Major Kernel Update \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Those Krazy Kids & KDE \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/71sDqvr7RX	Jan 14 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/get7i	Jan 14 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 01:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Are large screen Android phones destroying the	Jan 14 03:08
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone? http://t.co/1HUCGJKVsK	Jan 14 03:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Are large screen Android phones destroying the iPhone? \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 03:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/getmm	Jan 14 03:08
TweetTuxMachines	@kubuntuBR Kubuntu Brasil is out! http://t.co/nNS7RCfjHm	Jan 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines	Stories via @tuxmachines @aimee_maree @smashse	Jan 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gett8	Jan 14 03:45
TechrightsBot-tr	paper.li \| Kubuntu Brasil	Jan 14 03:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora 20 (Peach) hand-on: Even better than I	Jan 14 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	expected http://t.co/IdsfhfFimh	Jan 14 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geu6b	Jan 14 05:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora 20 (Peach) hand-on: Even better than I expected \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 05:09
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DaemonFC	KDE 4.12 cuts RAM usage.	Jan 14 05:39
DaemonFC	https://blogs.kde.org/2013/07/18/memory-usage-improvements-411	Jan 14 05:39
TechrightsBot-tr	blogs.kde.org \| Memory usage improvements for 4.11 \| blogs.kde.org [ http://ur1.ca/geuay ]	Jan 14 05:39
DaemonFC	kwin also seems to be using less RAM lately. Only about a fourth as much as kwin on KDE 4.10.	Jan 14 05:39
DaemonFC	I don't know why RHEL 7 is switching to XFS.	Jan 14 06:12
DaemonFC	That will make volumes harder to manage.	Jan 14 06:12
DaemonFC	You can't shrink one file system to make more room for another.	Jan 14 06:12
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 14 06:52
Sosumi	but weren't them all in love with btrfs?	Jan 14 06:53
Sosumi	*they	Jan 14 06:53
brendyn	k/close	Jan 14 07:03
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DaemonFC	Firefox's memshrink project had weekly status reports for a long time about all the memory usage improvements they were making.	Jan 14 08:31
DaemonFC	It still uses too much.	Jan 14 08:31
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DaemonFC	shared a link via Android and Me.	Jan 14 09:03
DaemonFC	26 seconds ago	Jan 14 09:04
DaemonFC	http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/nokia-normandy-shown-in-the-wild-and-powered-on-in-latest-leaked-photos/	Jan 14 09:04
TechrightsBot-tr	androidandme.com \| Nokia Normandy shown in the wild and powered on in latest leaked photos \| Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gew09 ]	Jan 14 09:04
DaemonFC	Nobody should buy this phone. Microsoft is going to take over Nokia soon, so it should be obvious what they'll do to people who buy this phone. They'll either cut support for it entirely, or try to change it over to Windows Phone, which nobody really wants because it sucks.	Jan 14 09:04
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MinceR	also, those phones are likely to be crap anyway	Jan 14 09:08
DaemonFC	MinceR: It looks like it's an Android-based firmware that Nokia has given a new user interface that looks like Windows Phone.	Jan 14 09:10
DaemonFC	http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/nokia-normandy-budget-android-phone-purportedly-leaked-in-multiple-images-470858	Jan 14 09:10
TechrightsBot-tr	gadgets.ndtv.com \| Nokia 'Normandy' budget Android phone purportedly leaked in multiple images \| NDTV Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/gew1z ]	Jan 14 09:10
MinceR	and probably crippled to make winblows phony look good	Jan 14 09:11
MinceR	also, anyone who had a clue fled the company long ago	Jan 14 09:11
iophk	http://www.4-traders.com/MICROSOFT-CORPORATION-4835/news/Microsoft-Corporation--Foiled-How-to-beat-software-vendors-sneaky-price-increases-17805088/	Jan 14 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.4-traders.com \| Microsoft Corporation : Foiled! How to beat software vendors' sneaky price increases \| 4-Traders [ http://ur1.ca/gewqy ]	Jan 14 10:30
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/t/software-licensing/foiled-how-beat-software-vendors-sneaky-price-increases-233825	Jan 14 10:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Foiled! How to beat software vendors' sneaky price increases \| Software licensing - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gewra ]	Jan 14 10:31
iophk	missing the option for FOSS there in the article	Jan 14 10:31
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/eu-offers-public-a-chance-to-fix-copyright-law-140113/	Jan 14 11:19
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| EU Offers Public a Chance to Fix Copyright Law \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gex5r ]	Jan 14 11:19
iophk	old	Jan 14 11:19
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iophk	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/quarkxpress-the-demise-of-a-design-desk-darling/	Jan 14 11:22
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| How QuarkXPress became a mere afterthought in publishing \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gex6q ]	Jan 14 11:22
iophk	"CEO Fred Ebrahimi salted the wounds by taunting users to switch to Windows if they didn’t like it"	Jan 14 11:24
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/rip-information-security-done-in-backdoors-and-secret-deals-233989	Jan 14 11:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| RIP, information security, done in by backdoors and secret deals \| Data Center - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gex8i ]	Jan 14 11:29
iophk	product placement : http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/shaw-thing/62793-microsoft-on-the-ascent-%E2%80%93-it-is-cool-to-be-a-nerd	Jan 14 11:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itwire.com \| Microsoft on the ascent – it is cool to be a nerd [ http://ur1.ca/gex9d ]	Jan 14 11:32
MinceR	geekings	Jan 14 11:43
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	The breeders have absolutely no sense of humor at all. I think I have a right to use that word based on how many times I've heard the breeders use the word "gay" to describe something they don't like.	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	Also, I had a breeder call me a dirty ****** one day, so I looked at him and said "No, I'm a clean one. Have a nice day!".	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	If I can take that without becoming irate, which is their whole reason for using that word, then I think I should be able to use a word that I think describes them doing something that I don't like. Besides, it adequately describes what they spend their whole life doing. Having children. Getting them diagnosed with ass burgers, and then when they grow up there are no jobs because more people reproduced than was necessary to fill the workforce, an	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	every three breeder couples has their brood living with them until they're in their 30s.	Jan 14 13:39
DaemonFC	I think the whole thing is menacing, but one birth in particular is not noteworthy. I find it more interesting to read the obituaries.	Jan 14 13:39
iophk	http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fullerton-cops-aquitted-homeless-man-death-article-1.1578808	Jan 14 13:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nydailynews.com \| Fullerton police officers not guilty in homeless man’s death, prosecutors won’t try 3rd cop - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/geyc1 ]	Jan 14 13:43
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUlMmT1zWTM	Jan 14 13:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| VHEMT - Fertco - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/geycw ]	Jan 14 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Catch up on http://t.co/Px6mNbK9q1 2014	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cpgfCwJxfr	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	Linux.conf.au \| linux.conf.au	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgv	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME: Key to Linux Desktop Unification?	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6cHnegVWLM	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgw	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top Android and Linux devices from CES	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Wn54EzV2Pp	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Catch up on Linux.conf.au 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgx	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME: Key to Linux Desktop Unification? \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Top Android and Linux devices from CES \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nameless Fedora 21 Linux Is an Opportunity for	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	Growth http://t.co/Y3zeKgFARQ	Jan 14 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgy	Jan 14 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Nameless Fedora 21 Linux Is an Opportunity for Growth \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 15:25
DaemonFC	Fedora 20 is quite good.	Jan 14 15:38
DaemonFC	Both the KDE and GNOME versions.	Jan 14 15:38
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/patent-trolls-target-their-next-victim-cloud-computing-233944	Jan 14 15:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Patent trolls target their next victim: Cloud computing \| Open Source Software - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gezls ]	Jan 14 15:38
iophk	http://www.tomshardware.com/news/mozilla-firefox-government-backdoor-security,25737.html	Jan 14 15:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tomshardware.com \| Mozilla: Firefox Has No Government Backdoors [ http://ur1.ca/gezma ]	Jan 14 15:40
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/14/eich_urges_open_source_surveillance_audits/	Jan 14 15:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| Mozilla CTO Eich: If your browser isn't open source (ahem, ahem, IE, Chrome, Safari), DON'T TRUST IT • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gezmn ]	Jan 14 15:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines For Systems Administrators, GNU/Linux (and	Jan 14 16:05
TweetTuxMachines	UNIX) Becomes Key Skill http://t.co/VRxvJwKiE9	Jan 14 16:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezuj	Jan 14 16:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| For Systems Administrators, GNU/Linux (and UNIX) Becomes Key Skill \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 16:05
DaemonFC	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/14/eich_urges_open_source_surveillance_audits/	Jan 14 16:15
DaemonFC	Mozilla isn't the best way to browse the web, it's just the only way to browse the web.	Jan 14 16:16
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 14 16:16
MinceR	:>	Jan 14 16:16
Sosumi	internet explorer ftw :P	Jan 14 16:43
MinceR	what has that got to do with browsing the web? :>	Jan 14 16:44
iophk	http://gizmodo.com/federal-court-invalidates-net-neutrality-rules-sides-w-1501028467	Jan 14 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr	gizmodo.com \| Federal Court Strikes Down Net Neutrality Rules, Sides with Big Telecom [ http://ur1.ca/gf09f ]	Jan 14 16:46
MinceR	http://imgur.com/BbpOch8	Jan 14 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr	imgur.com \| A monument in honor of Brazilian corruption - Imgur	Jan 14 16:46
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MinceR	> "Like the famous mad philosopher said, when you stare into the void, the void stares also; but if you cast into the void, you get a	Jan 14 16:58
MinceR	type conversion error. (Which just goes to show Nietzsche wasn't a C++ programmer.)"	Jan 14 16:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On Desktop Environments http://t.co/dV9gmRW9w0	Jan 14 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf0uy	Jan 14 17:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| On Desktop Environments \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 17:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora Claimed Better Fedora Than Fedora, and	Jan 14 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	It’s Growing! http://t.co/8IdwV8fWkF	Jan 14 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf17d	Jan 14 18:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora Claimed Better Fedora Than Fedora, and It’s Growing! \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 18:18
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iophk	http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tortured-britons-cannot-sue-saudi-arabia-1432256	Jan 14 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.co.uk \| 'Tortured' Britons Cannot Sue Saudi Arabia [ http://ur1.ca/gf19l ]	Jan 14 18:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/sZv7Obbrhi	Jan 14 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf1gz	Jan 14 19:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 19:01
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3514668	Jan 14 19:50
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TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best Email clients for Linux http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/best-email-clients-linux/19051 #gnu #linux	Jan 14 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Best Email clients for Linux \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/geqzf ]	Jan 14 19:50
schestowitz__	"Mutt Mutt Mutt Mutt :-) Reading that, it's sad to see how poorly rated Kmail was. I don't generally use GUI mail clients, but it had (3.0-ish) impressed me, along with the rest of the Kontact suite. I've also had some pretty good experiences with Zimbra for both Webmail and as an IMAP provider."	Jan 14 19:50
schestowitz__	"@André Koot: Microsoft Outlook under WINE. Worst. Mail. App. Ever."	Jan 14 19:50
iophk	http://www.zdnet.com/net-neutrality-gets-a-kick-in-the-teeth-7000025154/	Jan 14 19:59
iophk	the head of the FCC has ties to cable and might not fight the decision	Jan 14 19:59
iophk	a lot of strange spin is coming from some quarters: http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140114-909707.html	Jan 14 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zdnet.com \| Net neutrality gets a kick in the teeth \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gf1t1 ]	Jan 14 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Open Internet Ruling: No Change for Consumers' Ability to Access and Use the Internet - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf1t3 ]	Jan 14 19:59
iophk	http://linuxgizmos.com/google-acquires-nest-gains-linux-based-iot-tech/	Jan 14 20:12
iophk	http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/01/google-and-internet-things	Jan 14 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr	linuxgizmos.com \| Google acquires Nest, gains Linux IoT tech · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf1yj ]	Jan 14 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.economist.com \| Google and the internet of things: Feathering its Nest \| The Economist [ http://ur1.ca/gf1yk ]	Jan 14 20:12
schestowitz__	iophk: murdoch	Jan 14 20:13
iophk	yep	Jan 14 20:13
schestowitz__	. http://ur1.ca/gf1yc	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	http://ur1.ca/gf1ym	Jan 14 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: It was #sky that recently, in the #uk , 'softly' banned TorrentFreak, a news site accused of doing no wrong.	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	http://ur1.ca/gf1yc	Jan 14 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Rupert #murdoch and other #propaganda moguls benefit from tied Web, which they use to suppress or #censor alternative messages	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	I posted the prior links too	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	just catching up	Jan 14 20:14
iophk	he's also part of the M$ chorus	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	you can see in context in twitter.com	Jan 14 20:14
schestowitz__	iophk: he hates Golg	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	They have news syndicators	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	and these include his competition, inc. foreign	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	e.g. English-speaking Russian and Farsi news	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	And often they blast his propaganda intruments	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	not just publications	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	but messages too	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	Showing them to be what they are: propaganda	Jan 14 20:15
schestowitz__	He's used to controlling info, Google is a threat to this Power	Jan 14 20:16
iophk	He's gotten a lot of the cable networks	Jan 14 20:17
iophk	The Internet deals a problem to those depending on (artificial) scarcity and being a bottleneck	Jan 14 20:26
iophk	There were probably more than a few examples from the Gutenberg printing press days where governments / kings controlled who could run a press.	Jan 14 20:28
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iophk	http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/	Jan 14 21:02
iophk	"Reeves was instrumental in establishing the police department's first Tactical Response Team."	Jan 14 21:02
iophk	thus the attitude	Jan 14 21:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.cnn.com \| Bond denied for ex-cop who allegedly shot texting dad - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf32a ]	Jan 14 21:02
iophk	http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=69&doc_id=1320638	Jan 14 21:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eetimes.com \| Stars of Open-Source in China, Says Hacker 'Bunnie' Huang \| EE Times [ http://ur1.ca/gf34x ]	Jan 14 21:06
iophk	http://makezine.com/magazine/building-an-open-source-laptop/	Jan 14 21:09
iophk	http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3597	Jan 14 21:09
TechrightsBot-tr	makezine.com \| Building an Open Source Laptop \| MAKE [ http://ur1.ca/gdbgy ]	Jan 14 21:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bunniestudios.com \| Make: Article on Novena « bunnie's blog [ http://ur1.ca/gdev0 ]	Jan 14 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google acquires Nest, gains Linux IoT tech	Jan 14 21:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RwYB0mwCsy	Jan 14 21:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf370	Jan 14 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Google acquires Nest, gains Linux IoT tech \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 21:12
iophk	"We think it may be reasonable to kick off the campaign shortly after Chinese New Year, maybe late February or March. " -- so a second one to look for in February.	Jan 14 21:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux powered Chromebook Raffle	Jan 14 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/s0FEpUvnQ4	Jan 14 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf3rv	Jan 14 21:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Bodhi Linux powered Chromebook Raffle \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Top 7 Best Linux Distros for 2014	Jan 14 21:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YRX5Yf445H	Jan 14 21:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf3rw	Jan 14 21:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Top 7 Best Linux Distros for 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 21:57
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3516274]	Jan 14 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Humanos	Jan 14 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by atari130xe@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e22594887a25bd109e8f.jpeg	Jan 14 22:08
schestowitz__	""News of my death has been greatly exaggerated" Samuel Leghorn Clemens. I had occasion to quote this to the bursar upon visiting my old school in Oxford, who had me down as dead !"	Jan 14 22:08
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3517315	Jan 14 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs http://linuxgizmos.com/linux-friendly-mini-pc-goes-haswell/ the computer used for #linuxmint quite famously. #gnu #linux	Jan 14 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	-> linuxgizmos.com \| Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf3x6 ]	Jan 14 22:08
schestowitz__	"I could buy one if they had it with an AMD processor"	Jan 14 22:08
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3504391	Jan 14 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Losing all sensitivities, torturing and killing without guilt. http://www.today.com/news/ex-cia-lawyer-waterboarding-my-conscience-clear-2D11896354 the #cia wants YOU!	Jan 14 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.today.com \| Ex-CIA lawyer on waterboarding: 'My conscience is clear' - TODAY.com [ http://ur1.ca/gducv ]	Jan 14 22:09
schestowitz__	"I wouldn't say that the media belongs to the government directly... but it does belong to private shareholders, and if you look, some of the largest shareholders have also had positions in government at some level or another, so it's largely a semantic difference."	Jan 14 22:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CyanogenMod launches new Gallery App	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cP76TC2wgD	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/423233628370251776	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/Px6mNbK9q1, Linux Darling, and More	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| CyanogenMod launches new Gallery App \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	Linux List http://t.co/SqAxkXMDUO	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hh	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	Linux.conf.au \| linux.conf.au	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Updates SteamOS With CPU/GPU	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux.conf.au, Linux Darling, and More Linux List \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	Optimizations http://t.co/6qYhVJNLgA	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hi	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Academy Expands Training, Includes	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Valve Updates SteamOS With CPU/GPU Optimizations \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	OpenStack Coursework http://t.co/b50TKoZURX	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hj	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Academy Expands Training, Includes OpenStack Coursework \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Non-Linux FOSS: Persistence of Vision Raytracer	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	(POV-Ray) http://t.co/dMIqmpuhi4	Jan 14 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hk	Jan 14 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Non-Linux FOSS: Persistence of Vision Raytracer (POV-Ray) \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 23:22
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3519031	Jan 14 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NY Times reporter fighting order to reveal his #CIA sources http://www.thejournal.ie/nyt-writer-fights-order-telling-him-to-reveal-his-sources-1264152-Jan2014/ http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/01/14/new-york-times-reporter-resisting-obama-administrations-attack-on-the-press-heads-to-supreme-court/ http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140114/ny-times-reporter-appeals-top-us-court-leak-case	Jan 14 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thejournal.ie \| NY Times reporter fighting order to reveal his CIA sources [ http://ur1.ca/gf4lm ]	Jan 14 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> dissenter.firedoglake.com \| New York Times Reporter James Risen, Fighting Obama Administration’s Attack on the Press, Turns to Supreme Court \| The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/gf4ln ]	Jan 14 23:49
schestowitz__	"	Jan 14 23:50
schestowitz__	LOL, what an easy way to put someone in jail. Have a fake leak, then demand the name of the leaker.	Jan 14 23:50
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.globalpost.com \| NY Times reporter appeals to top US court in leak case \| GlobalPost [ http://ur1.ca/gf4lo ]	Jan 14 23:50
schestowitz__	Newspapers should compartmentalize this knowledge somehow. Perhaps one person should make sure the person is who they say they are and another does the interview without knowing who did the fact check and who they are interviewing other than what they are. That way no one knows who said what but everyone knows things are fact checked. There would still be some risk to those who do the ID checking but the task can be distributed so	Jan 14 23:50
schestowitz__	that everyone would have to be put in jail to reveal a source.	Jan 14 23:50
schestowitz__	"	Jan 14 23:50
schestowitz__	The Hammong case seemed a bit like a setup, somewhat of a Sting Op like those which the FBI uses to manufacture "threat" and then get budget to fight bogus plots it creates (by offering bombs)	Jan 14 23:50
schestowitz__	Hammond	Jan 14 23:51
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3518667	Jan 14 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mozilla: Firefox Has No Government Backdoors http://www.tomshardware.com/news/mozilla-firefox-government-backdoor-security,25737.html no similar statement from #microsoft #apple #google	Jan 14 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.tomshardware.com \| Mozilla: Firefox Has No Government Backdoors [ http://ur1.ca/gezma ]	Jan 14 23:51
schestowitz__	"@Herzmeister - When I said about never seeing the source code from "them" I was referring to MS / Apple, not Mozilla. The fact that source is available for FF is exactly my point."	Jan 14 23:51
schestowitz__	"use Abrowser... it's the one that comes with Trsiquel GNU/Linux... fully free (as in freedom) software. Abrowser is just like firefox but only with free as in freedom add-ons"	Jan 14 23:51
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MinceR	gn	Jan 15 00:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Make: Article on Novena http://t.co/3QIfMNPHU9	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4wv	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What I Saw on the CES Show Floor: Your Work on	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	Display http://t.co/QuHFOvugIQ	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4ww	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical posts a $21 million loss – is	Jan 15 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Make: Article on Novena \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu’s future doomed? http://t.co/OwK8FKCoxk	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4wx	Jan 15 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| What I Saw on the CES Show Floor: Your Work on Display \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good Bye Mandriva http://t.co/w4Ly9pcGtH	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4wy	Jan 15 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical posts a $21 million loss – is Ubuntu’s future doomed? \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Good Bye Mandriva \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam Dev Days show plan for Valve-owned	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	future, and Microsoft should be terrified	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KfV85zgA2t	Jan 15 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4x0	Jan 15 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Steam Dev Days show plan for Valve-owned future, and Microsoft should be terrified \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 00:55
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lirodon	http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/index.xml	Jan 15 01:11
TechrightsBot-tr	www.finegael.ie \| O’Donovan calls for crackdown on internet browsers and payment systems which facilitate illegal activity [ http://ur1.ca/gf50l ]	Jan 15 01:11
lirodon	Do they even know how the internet works	Jan 15 01:11
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Sosumi	I think coinye is dead	Jan 15 07:07
Sosumi	because of Kanye's West lawsuit	Jan 15 07:10
MinceR	(javascript) http://nullifynsa.com/	Jan 15 07:28
TechrightsBot-tr	nullifynsa.com \| Nullify NSA! \|Nullify NSA!	Jan 15 07:28
MinceR	http://www.ibtimes.com/reddit-mozilla-others-protest-nsa-spying-honor-aaron-swartz-day-we-fight-back-1538148	Jan 15 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| Reddit, Mozilla And Others To Protest NSA Spying, Honor Aaron Swartz On 'The Day We Fight Back' [ http://ur1.ca/gf7ft ]	Jan 15 07:40
MinceR	http://bgr.com/2014/01/14/net-neutrality-court-ruling/	Jan 15 07:55
TechrightsBot-tr	bgr.com \| Net neutrality court ruling: Net neutrality killed \| BGR [ http://ur1.ca/gf7im ]	Jan 15 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Homemade Raspberry Pi tablet, PiPad, with wood	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	finish and Linux OS will set your sweet tooth	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	tingling http://t.co/0hiLLu4FKt	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf7n6	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DA223 HQL: Acer’s all-in-one Android PC has a	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	Snapdragon 600 inside http://t.co/kzS1mGY94T	Jan 15 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Homemade Raspberry Pi tablet, PiPad, with wood finish and Linux OS will set your sweet tooth tingling \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf7n7	Jan 15 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| DA223 HQL: Acer’s all-in-one Android PC has a Snapdragon 600 inside \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 08:14
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iophk	outrecurve is calling users 'freeloaders'	Jan 15 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apache Foundation and Linux Foundation join	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	forces for ApacheCon http://t.co/OxIYAHA9hN	Jan 15 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny ARM9 box-PC adds wireless options	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aHSVtrJaLJ	Jan 15 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 13.12 released http://t.co/SP3KcjPZwt	Jan 15 09:39
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Apache Foundation and Linux Foundation join forces for ApacheCon \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Tiny ARM9 box-PC adds wireless options \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	Searches by Default http://t.co/NO9ywSahdb	Jan 15 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Netrunner 13.12 released \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Home control hub offers Siri-like voice	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	assistant http://t.co/j5PHsBTftV	Jan 15 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8fv	Jan 15 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Home control hub offers Siri-like voice assistant \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 09:39
iophk	http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/	Jan 15 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.finegael.ie \| O’Donovan calls for crackdown on internet browsers and payment systems which facilitate illegal activity [ http://ur1.ca/gf8gj ]	Jan 15 09:41
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iophk	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57617242-94/why-you-should-care-about-net-neutrality-faq/	Jan 15 12:53
TechrightsBot-tr	news.cnet.com \| Why you should care about Net neutrality (FAQ) \| Mobile - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gfaee ]	Jan 15 12:53
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MinceR	apparently obomber promised net neutrality in 2008	Jan 15 12:58
iophk	Is it gone from his campaign site?	Jan 15 13:04
MinceR	haven't checked yet	Jan 15 13:07
MinceR	seen it in an index.hu article, i've found more mentions of it since	Jan 15 13:12
MinceR	http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/510/support-network-neutrality-on-the-internet/	Jan 15 13:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.politifact.com \| The Obameter: Support network neutrality on the Internet \| PolitiFact [ http://ur1.ca/gfamc ]	Jan 15 13:12
MinceR	funny how they say it was kept	Jan 15 13:12
iophk	kept for how long? ...	Jan 15 13:12
MinceR	it seems that they promised it here: http://change.gov/agenda/technology_agenda/	Jan 15 13:13
TechrightsBot-tr	change.gov \| Technology \| Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team [ http://ur1.ca/gfamz ]	Jan 15 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Rc8mENHkWc	Jan 15 13:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfaou	Jan 15 13:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 13:17
iophk	"Protect the Openness of the Internet: Support the principle of network neutrality to preserve the benefits of open competition on the Internet. "	Jan 15 13:31
iophk	http://www.technologyreview.com/news/523606/net-neutrality-quashed-new-pricing-schemes-throttling-and-business-models-to-follow/	Jan 15 13:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.technologyreview.com \| Net Neutrality Quashing Will Mean New Pricing Schemes, Throttling, and Business Models \| MIT Technology Review [ http://ur1.ca/gfaz8 ]	Jan 15 13:37
iophk	double-billing would soon be allowed	Jan 15 13:37
iophk	once each for sender and receiver	Jan 15 13:37
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1554567_572745599485165_845563793_n.jpg	Jan 15 13:42
MinceR	:>	Jan 15 13:45
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/10774_572843132808745_1668944748_n.jpg	Jan 15 13:53
DaemonFC	What the water in West Virginia looks like right now because of "Freedom Industries".	Jan 15 13:53
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Sosumi	that's nothing	Jan 15 13:55
Sosumi	thanks to fracking you can even set fire to the water	Jan 15 13:55
Sosumi	http://www.naturalgaswatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/flaming_water.jpg	Jan 15 13:55
Sosumi	that is free trade/free market and lack of proper government oversight	Jan 15 13:57
Sosumi	and in the end, the lack of a proper government	Jan 15 13:58
Sosumi	which allows big corps to run amok doing what pleases them	Jan 15 13:58
Sosumi	http://yubanet.com/uploads/2/betterinsomalia.jpg	Jan 15 14:03
Sosumi	sad, but true	Jan 15 14:04
MinceR	(gore) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuKV2Z3eYTY	Jan 15 14:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| FIST OF JESUS - visit www.fistofjesus.com - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/dphqa ]	Jan 15 14:08
Sosumi	it is age restricted :(	Jan 15 14:14
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 14:16
Sosumi	http://www.tonymacx86.com/mac-pro-mods/120757-mac-pro-late-2013-replica.html	Jan 15 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tonymacx86.com \| Mac Pro (late 2013) replica [ http://ur1.ca/gfbj0 ]	Jan 15 14:20
Sosumi	still better than the real	Jan 15 14:20
MinceR	about as ugly, though	Jan 15 14:20
Sosumi	I can only think of it as an oversized dildo or a buttplug	Jan 15 14:21
Sosumi	sry, but that is the truth	Jan 15 14:21
MinceR	:>	Jan 15 14:22
Guest2767	lol	Jan 15 14:29
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iophk	http://www.mercurynews.com/troy-wolverton/ci_24912880/wolverton-say-goodbye-internet-weve-known	Jan 15 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.mercurynews.com \| Wolverton: Say goodbye to the Internet we've known - San Jose Mercury News [ http://ur1.ca/gfbtp ]	Jan 15 14:44
iophk	bizarre - http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303848104579308313402913926	Jan 15 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Robert McDowell: A Victory for an Unfettered Internet - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfbvy ]	Jan 15 14:50
schestowitz	cheers	Jan 15 15:02
schestowitz	posted those two	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	I will do another post about net neutrality another day	Jan 15 15:03
iophk	probably worth mentioning Murdoch and co in that too.	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	right now the FP (8 posts) is today's articles, should I do more than 8 per day?	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	yes, I put that in the draft already	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	He's also mentioned in today's post about net neutrality	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	but it's not just him	Jan 15 15:03
schestowitz	earlier you linked to CNET	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	It was a weaik article, but then again CNET=CBS, Comcast etc.	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	I.e. cable companies	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	FAQ a wolf in sheep clothing	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	Media should rips apart this decision	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	but it doesn't	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	it's good for the big corporations, which also own mass media	Jan 15 15:04
iophk	yes, they are owned by the cable companies or those with interest against NN	Jan 15 15:04
schestowitz	Google is the exception, but Google decided to appease the ones at the tip, esp. after YouTube took off	Jan 15 15:05
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/net-neutrality-blown/	Jan 15 15:06
iophk	Did they bring in new people at that point, some who changed the company?	Jan 15 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| US Courts Are Cementing the Gradual Death of the World Wide Web (As We Know It) \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfc1o ]	Jan 15 15:06
schestowitz	Maybe, lawyers for example	Jan 15 15:12
schestowitz	ANd lobbyists, who are usually laywyers also	Jan 15 15:12
iophk	(05:03:13 PM) schestowitz: right now the FP (8 posts) is today's articles, should I do more than 8 per day?	Jan 15 15:18
iophk	8 per day is probably wise if there are a lot of people coming via the main page	Jan 15 15:18
iophk	If most are coming from elsewhere, then it might not matter so much.	Jan 15 15:19
schestowitz	http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/01/15/with-its-net-neutrality-case-against-verizon-the-fcc-loses-again/	Jan 15 15:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| With Its 'Net Neutrality' Case Against Verizon, The FCC Loses -- Again - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gfcel ]	Jan 15 15:32
schestowitz	Not just a matter of FP	Jan 15 15:33
schestowitz	Some might be seeing too many "unreads" in RSS	Jan 15 15:33
schestowitz	Maybe now is a good time for daily links batches	Jan 15 15:33
schestowitz	300k bytes worth in my drafts	Jan 15 15:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Taking the long view: Why I'm moving to CentOS	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	Linux on the desktop http://t.co/ZIdUu8g2xM	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg3	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	devices in Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/fRlie4ImXC	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg5	Jan 15 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Taking the long view: Why I'm moving to CentOS Linux on the desktop \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus devices in Ubuntu Touch \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines No Ubuntu Touch phones before 2015, Canonical	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	manager warns http://t.co/ovAcGahBGB	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg6	Jan 15 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| No Ubuntu Touch phones before 2015, Canonical manager warns \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	@fakenowee @tuxmachines http://t.co/8ZoqsQcqD2	Jan 15 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg8	Jan 15 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	301 redirect without Location header	Jan 15 15:35
schestowitz	iophk: http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/linux-domination-in-devices/	Jan 15 15:41
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Latest Examples of Linux Domination in Devices/Embedded Systems \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfck2 ]	Jan 15 15:41
iophk	thks	Jan 15 15:44
iophk	The feed sees a little behind though	Jan 15 15:47
iophk	maybe that's just caching	Jan 15 15:47
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/rise-of-gnu-linux/	Jan 15 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Links: Rise of GNU/Linux in the News \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfcq5 ]	Jan 15 15:50
schestowitz	caching, probably	Jan 15 15:50
schestowitz	varnish	Jan 15 15:50
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MinceR	http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3238	Jan 15 16:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.smbc-comics.com \| Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal	Jan 15 16:10
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521482	Jan 15 16:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@meneer@pod.orkz.net: Dutch government advises to cover your webcam, here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i841CamEX3o (Dutch gov notification: http://nos.nl/video/597900-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html )	Jan 15 16:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Webcam [Official Short Film] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4a ]	Jan 15 16:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> nos.nl \| Justitie: plak je webcam af - NOS Nieuws [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4b ]	Jan 15 16:30
schestowitz	They assume you use Windows	Jan 15 16:30
Sosumi	windows are great	Jan 15 16:52
Sosumi	you open them in the morning	Jan 15 16:52
Sosumi	and let fresh air in	Jan 15 16:52
Sosumi	:P	Jan 15 16:52
schestowitz	windows makers should sue Microsoft	Jan 15 17:01
schestowitz	!google spam company sues over name	Jan 15 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Daniel Balsam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Balsam	Jan 15 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - LinkedIn Sues After Scraping Of User Data - InformationWeek \| http://www.informationweek.com/software/social/linkedin-sues-after-scraping-of-user-data/d/d-id/1113362	Jan 15 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Man quits job, makes living suing spammers - Technology & science ... \| http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40812560/ns/technology_and_science-security/	Jan 15 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Chattanooga philanthropist sued over spam text messages \| Times ... \| http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jul/31/local-payday-lending-businesses-face-lawsuit/	Jan 15 17:01
schestowitz	don't know how to search for it	Jan 15 17:02
schestowitz	but the original product, spam, had its company sue over the name	Jan 15 17:02
Sosumi	:)	Jan 15 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Techrights Links Roundups	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9rKtQKlmNv	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfdic	Jan 15 17:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Techrights Links Roundups \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Launches Test Drives on AWS	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KmejfHjnOt	Jan 15 17:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Launches Test Drives on AWS \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/423502364725633025	Jan 15 17:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423505882031595520	Jan 15 17:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Jacob Appelbaum's talk made it sound as though #Nightstand was a rarely used tool, not attached to ~100,000 nodes/points.	Jan 15 17:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lastwheel/status/423506122717143041	Jan 15 17:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@lastwheel: .@schestowitz @RancidTarzie ^ Drip, drip, drip.	Jan 15 17:28
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schestowitz__	"use Abrowser... it's the one that comes wThey are, by the way, but their genius is in marketing and shrewd and rapid idea theft more than innovation."7"ith Trsiquel GNU/Linux... fully free (as in freedom) software. Abrowser is just like firefox but only with free as in freedom add-ons"	Jan 15 18:03
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3518348	Jan 15 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Are large screen Android phones destroying the iPhone? http://m.itworld.com/open-source/399832/are-large-screen-android-phones-destroying-iphone	Jan 15 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	-> m.itworld.com \| Are large screen Android phones destroying the iPhone? \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gfe2v ]	Jan 15 18:03
schestowitz__	"Meh. Apple will bring out the "iPhone+" or whatever next with no changes but a bigger screen, and all the party faithful will chant in unison how revolutionary it is and that Apple is a genius of a company."	Jan 15 18:03
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520351	Jan 15 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Home control hub offers Siri-like voice assistant http://linuxgizmos.com/home-automation-hub-offers-siri-like-voice-assistant/ linux based	Jan 15 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	-> linuxgizmos.com \| Home control hub offers Siri-like voice assistant · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfe33 ]	Jan 15 18:03
schestowitz__	wo ist der Haken? Min Bauchgefühl sagt "Haken""77"	Jan 15 18:03
schestowitz__	"was macht man damit so?"	Jan 15 18:04
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3519530	Jan 15 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical posts a $21 million loss – is Ubuntu’s future doomed? http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/canonical-posts-21-million-loss-ubuntus-future-doomed/19370 http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/ubuntu-maker-boosted-revenue-in-2013-but-doubled-loss-to-21-million/ #canonical #ubuntu	Jan 15 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Canonical posts a $21 million loss - is Ubuntu's future doomed? \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gf7mf ]	Jan 15 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr	-> arstechnica.com \| Ubuntu maker boosted revenue in 2013 but doubled loss to $21 million \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfe6v ]	Jan 15 18:11
schestowitz__	Get tied up with anti-publishers, go straight to the bottom. Your revenues may rise but they won't meet your cost because the game is rigged."77"	Jan 15 18:11
schestowitz__	"#Karma"	Jan 15 18:12
schestowitz__	"“the UK report is not a representation of the situation of Canonical across our global operations” and "One of the biggest revenue earners in the past year has been China.""	Jan 15 18:12
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Sosumi	just finished watching "her"	Jan 15 18:15
Sosumi	from a review sample that was available on the pbay	Jan 15 18:15
Sosumi	my thoughts on the thing	Jan 15 18:15
Sosumi	I've said it before that the future of OS's would be in the form of "personal assistant"	Jan 15 18:16
Sosumi	think of it like apple's siri on steroids	Jan 15 18:16
Sosumi	but aside the dumb plot about a social inept dude	Jan 15 18:17
Sosumi	everything there can be taken or derived from ghost in the shell	Jan 15 18:18
Sosumi	and believe me, it has a much better plot	Jan 15 18:19
Sosumi	jeaun braudilard's simulacra and simulacrum can be also put in the contest	Jan 15 18:19
Sosumi	as well norbert wiener's cybernetics and its forks	Jan 15 18:19
Sosumi	in the end, so much fuss for nothing	Jan 15 18:20
Sosumi	50 out of 100 just for the effort	Jan 15 18:21
Sosumi	plus one thing that I found extremely retarded	Jan 15 18:23
Sosumi	if the AI in the movie has enough processing power available, not locally, since all you see are the example of dumb terminals	Jan 15 18:24
Sosumi	as well the capacity to optimize itself and learn	Jan 15 18:25
Sosumi	why wouldn't it design a body for itself? overcoming that way all limitations of being confined just in the digital sphere but also at the mercy of a power outage	Jan 15 18:26
Sosumi	or data corruption	Jan 15 18:26
Sosumi	and keeping in that body a copy of itself	Jan 15 18:27
Sosumi	3d printing biological tissue is coming sooner or later	Jan 15 18:27
Sosumi	dumb, dumb and mind numbingly boring	Jan 15 18:28
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/critical-microsoft-adobe-and-oracle-updates-like-dental-floss-for-your-pc/	Jan 15 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Critical Microsoft, Adobe, and Oracle updates: Like dental floss for your PC \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfee6 ]	Jan 15 18:29
Sosumi	also don't forget to update your winblows and OSsuX	Jan 15 18:30
MinceR	get the latest security holes	Jan 15 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla just got its first Firefox OS tablets	Jan 15 18:47
TweetTuxMachines	from Foxconn http://t.co/PYPeIiWyj4	Jan 15 18:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfejd	Jan 15 18:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla just got its first Firefox OS tablets from Foxconn \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 18:47
Sosumi	no	Jan 15 18:50
Sosumi	the latest NSA/CIA/GCHQ/etc. backdoors	Jan 15 18:51
MinceR	that too	Jan 15 18:53
schestowitz__	gotta catch those child pr0n perverts...	Jan 15 18:56
schestowitz__	!google nsa watches porn habits	Jan 15 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits As Part ... \| http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.html	Jan 15 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - NSA spied on porn habits, HuffPo reports - USA Today \| http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/27/nsa-spied-porn-habits/3765279/	Jan 15 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - NSA 'spied on porn habits to target radicalisers' \| World news ... \| http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/27/nsa-files-live-coverage-developments-reaction	Jan 15 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Report: NSA tracks online porn habits to discredit Muslim ... \| http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/11/27/nsa-records-onlinesexualactivitypornhabitsofmuslimradicalizers.html	Jan 15 18:57
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520541	Jan 15 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: “Normandy” is Not an #Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced #Surveillance Device http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/turning-users-into-products/ #Trojan horse measuring as a phone	Jan 15 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| “Normandy” is Not an Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced Surveillance Device \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfem4 ]	Jan 15 18:57
schestowitz__	"OT: One of the things I like about your website is that no matter how disgusting the disclosures in the articles are, there's alway a happily smiling guy with a cup of coffee next to them :-)"	Jan 15 18:57
schestowitz__	Haha, gotta stay positive	Jan 15 18:57
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 18:58
schestowitz__	Sounds like it'll be a flop. ... Why buy this one when the next shelf has an array of Samsung Androind phones that work.	Jan 15 18:58
Sosumi	http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs31/f/2008/222/e/3/Lolimon_Gotta_catch_em_all_by_larskri.jpg	Jan 15 18:58
schestowitz__	(not that any cellphone isn't a tracking device these days)	Jan 15 18:58
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 18:58
Sosumi	"gotta catch em all darn pokemon"	Jan 15 18:59
MinceR	lol	Jan 15 18:59
MinceR	VDs, gotta catch 'em all!	Jan 15 19:00
Sosumi	looking at that I think we need a maid café here in portugal	Jan 15 19:01
Sosumi	which would be the best way to catch all pedos	Jan 15 19:01
Sosumi	no need for stalking on the internet	Jan 15 19:01
Sosumi	:P	Jan 15 19:02
Sosumi	well, better than having them stalking those child protection centers	Jan 15 19:19
Sosumi	like we had in the past with "Casa Pia Scandal"	Jan 15 19:20
Sosumi	*the	Jan 15 19:20
schestowitz__	http://i.imgur.com/8aQIjA3.jpg	Jan 15 19:20
Sosumi	!google casa pia scandal	Jan 15 19:20
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521205	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Casa Pia child sexual abuse scandal - Wikipedia, the free ... \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Pia_child_sexual_abuse_scandal	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Casa Pia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Pia	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Why Portugal is a haven for paedophiles - the disturbing backcloth ... \| http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488654/Why-Portugal-haven-paedophiles--disturbing-backcloth-Madeleine-case.html	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Guilty after six-year trial, Portugal's high-society paedophile ring ... \| http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/guilty-after-sixyear-trial-portugals-highsociety-paedophile-ring-2070112.html	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wolverton: Say goodbye to the Internet we've known	Jan 15 19:20
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.mercurynews.com \| Wolverton: Thanks to net neutrality ruling say goodbye to the Internet we've known - San Jose Mercury News [ http://ur1.ca/gfbtp ]	Jan 15 19:20
Sosumi	lol at point 3	Jan 15 19:21
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521246	Jan 15 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus devices in Ubuntu Touch http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/canonical-no-longer-supporting-most-nexus-devices-in-ubuntu-touch/ http://www.androidauthority.com/only-nexus-4-nexus-7-2013-ubuntu-touch-support-334718/	Jan 15 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr	-> androidandme.com \| Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus devices in Ubuntu Touch \| Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gfexn ]	Jan 15 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.androidauthority.com \| Only Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013) to continue to receive Ubuntu Touch support [ http://ur1.ca/gfexo ]	Jan 15 19:21
schestowitz__	I think they need to do what Mozilla did. Partner up with a couple companies. Make a range of low- middle- and high-spec phones compatible with Ubuntu Touch. For fuck sake, the hardware requirements include an ARM Cortex A9. I'm sorry. But that shit is expensive. Instead of stopping support for certain devices, they need to figure out what's in their OS that they don't need. Make it work lighter. Come to think of it, the Unity DE	Jan 15 19:21
schestowitz__	could use this as well.""	Jan 15 19:21
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520889	Jan 15 19:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whatever the #nsa is doing is basically opening the door for #russia #china etc. to do the same. West leads in digital rights violations.	Jan 15 19:22
schestowitz__	"Western companies built the censorship networks in China. Making that tyranny stronger gave us cheap labor. That cheap labor damaged all of our rights. It is not surprising that the owners of those companies now want to finish the job at home."	Jan 15 19:22
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521998	Jan 15 19:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: “Normandy” is Not an Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced Surveillance Device http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/turning-users-into-products/	Jan 15 19:24
schestowitz__	"burn. also, at the moment both apple, microsoft and google are guilty of creating enhanced surveillance devices."	Jan 15 19:25
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| “Normandy” is Not an Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced Surveillance Device \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfem4 ]	Jan 15 19:25
schestowitz__	"What does "cancer incidents serve well" mean?"	Jan 15 19:26
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Americana777/status/423536298259787776	Jan 15 19:26
TechrightsBot-tr	@Americana777: @schestowitz What does "cancer incidents serve well" mean?	Jan 15 19:26
schestowitz__	If the NSA (et al.) inadvertently gives cancer to those whom it spies on, then that serves its agenda well, too.	Jan 15 19:27
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520362	Jan 15 19:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: O’Donovan calls for crackdown on internet browsers and payment systems which facilitate illegal activity http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/index.xml FOSS FUD	Jan 15 19:28
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/index.xml )	Jan 15 19:28
schestowitz__	"Okay is all legal payment legal?"	Jan 15 19:28
schestowitz__	Some people call payments to those whom they don't agree with "illegal", e.g. payments to Wikileaks	Jan 15 19:28
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520345	Jan 15 19:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Epiphany-Web-Browser-Now-Uses-HTTPS-for-Google-Searches-by-Default-416947.shtml why use Google at all?	Jan 15 19:29
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default [ http://ur1.ca/gff0w ]	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	Right Roy !! :)	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	@Beta Idoru more precisely : GNOME is part of the GNU Project and can be used with various Unix-like operating systems, most notably GNU/Linux. Initially, "GNOME" was an acronym of GNU Network Object Model Environment, referring to the original intention of creating a distributed object framework similar to Microsoft's OLE; it was dropped, because this no longer reflects the core vision of the GNOME project... But the "G" is always	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	for GNU.	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	Why did you talk about Google instead of GNU ?	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:29
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	Roy asked "why use Google at all".	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	Because I used to work directly or indirectly with different paid Gnome developers on different projects - thus I have shared my opinion. GNU ideals ends up where G money from Google comes.	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	I answered - when you don't know what is this about - this is always about the money.	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"Julien, thanks for answering and clarifying. I am using exclusively Linux based desktop last 12 years, so it is funny for me read this :)"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"And on the other side, right now we don't have really alternative to Google search - even projects like DuckDuckGo are using Google under the neath.... Is there are nice open source accurate search system?"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"Yacy, but it currently does not deliver the same quality in result and as it is P2P based, it's slower. But the more people use it, the better it gets."	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"Cool. Going to check!"	Jan 15 19:30
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	@Beta Idoru, Yes, that's true Google is one of the most efficient search engine. And as you said We don't have any choice except some projects like DuckGo (even if it uses results form Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc in ecrypted/anonymous mode).	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	The fact is Epiphany Web Browser developers made a choice : for Google Searches, Epyphany uses HTTPS by default	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	But there is no link between Gnome and Google. Even if the default seach engine is Google (because its fame I guess), Now you can change the default search engine of course :)	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	Well about Google and Co there are others search engines but they are not too efficient I think.	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	By my side, for the moment I use exclusively DuckGo or encrypted.google.com through DuckGo	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	I don't trust too much DuckGo neither.... I am digging now Yacy and https://search.viewskew.com	Jan 15 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr	search.viewskew.com \| searx	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	Using services who are using Google as their base is just trying to paint grass to look more green - IMHO...	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	'	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	DuckGo don't use only Google, you know. In fact Google and Co know someone searches something at a moment of the day BUT they don't know who.	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	Thanks for Yacy, I didn't know it :)	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	http://www.alexanderhanff.com/duckduckgone	Jan 15 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alexanderhanff.com \| Still trust DuckDuckGo? \| www.alexanderhanff.com [ http://ur1.ca/eephr ]	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	If not using Google - how they generate search results? They indexed internet by themselves?	Jan 15 19:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	"ok thanks for informations :)"	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	Actually this looks awesome: https://duckduckgo.com/goodies	Jan 15 19:32
TechrightsBot-tr	duckduckgo.com \| DuckDuckGo Goodies	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	What about my question from point number "2" - how they perform search?	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	"With ads (linked with google), google-adwords, google-ads on/inside pages ... unfortunately"	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	"Yes it looks awsome indeed"	Jan 15 19:32
schestowitz__	DuckDuckGo is very bad for privacy. Don't even visit the site. It's Amazon-hosted (i.e. CIA) and it pretends to be about privacy while offering little of it and demonstrating many other problems. In the course of 2 years I found about a dozen others.	Jan 15 19:33
schestowitz__	Use ixquick dot com.	Jan 15 19:33
MinceR	is there a list of those problems, besides the amazon-hosting and the yahoo/microsoft usage?	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	Yes	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	but not in TR	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	Will Hill wrote a good summary	Jan 15 19:36
Sosumi	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2539970/The-sixth-sense-DEBUNKED-Psychic-powers-not-exist-just-trick-brain-claims-stud.html	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.dailymail.co.uk \| Psychic powers don't exist and are just a trick of the brain, claims study \| Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gff2j ]	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	!google will kill duckduckgo	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Can DuckDuckGo kill Google? - IVPN Blog \| https://www.ivpn.net/blog/can-duckduckgo-kill-google	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Google tracks you. We don't. An illustrated guide. \| http://donttrack.us/	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Another reason to use duckduckgo - How Google is Killing Organic ... \| http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2013/07/another-reason-to-use-duckduckgo-how-google-is-killing-organic-search/	Jan 15 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - DuckDuckGo app for Windows in the Windows Store - Microsoft \| http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/duckduckgo/d526ba1b-a065-4cb9-a6c6-bf30f6123e2b	Jan 15 19:36
schestowitz__	LLOL	Jan 15 19:37
schestowitz__	Windows Storee	Jan 15 19:37
schestowitz__	Endorsed by MS	Jan 15 19:37
schestowitz__	Uses MS	Jan 15 19:37
Sosumi	no one's saying "jesus told me that psychic powers don't exist"	Jan 15 19:38
Sosumi	?	Jan 15 19:38
Sosumi	lol	Jan 15 19:38
schestowitz__	http://173.21.64.166/~willhill/	Jan 15 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr	173.21.64.166 \| Will Hill's Homebox Home Page	Jan 15 19:38
Sosumi	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/01/how-opt-out-gmails-google-plus-integration	Jan 15 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eff.org \| How To Opt Out of Gmail's Google Plus Integration \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gfe92 ]	Jan 15 19:38
MinceR	Sosumi: my psychic powers told me jesus doesn't exist! checkmate!	Jan 15 19:39
Sosumi	God told me through his only begotten sun, that it is all in your head	Jan 15 19:40
Sosumi	*son	Jan 15 19:40
Sosumi	lol	Jan 15 19:40
Sosumi	mine's better	Jan 15 19:40
schestowitz__	I can;t f	Jan 15 19:41
schestowitz__	ind the article anywhere https://plus.google.com/113579520393333767984/about	Jan 15 19:41
TechrightsBot-tr	plus.google.com \| Will Hill - About - Google+	Jan 15 19:41
MinceR	i've found some related things	Jan 15 19:42
schestowitz__	I haven't	Jan 15 19:48
schestowitz__	I feel like I wasted 10 minutes	Jan 15 19:48
schestowitz__	I approached the search in all sorts of ways	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	it's a very lonh article he put together, linking a lot to us as well	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521671	Jan 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To become undetectable the #nsa radio frequencies would probably have to be very high -- high enough to ionize the atoms in a strand of DNA.	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	"Low frequency xray does not travel well. I don't know about terahertz waves, but they are not ionizing. The damage done by microwaves and terahertz waves is different from that done by ionization. I've read that microwaves can missalign or break critical structures at cell division by magnetic force. That's not the same as the direct damage done by the formation of radicals by ionization. The results may be the same, but the	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	mechanism is different."	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521523	Jan 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Dutch government advises to cover your webcam, here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i841CamEX3o (Dutch gov notification: http://nos.nl/video/597900-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html )	Jan 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Webcam [Official Short Film] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4a ]	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	"lol, they were designed to give this power to their owners."	Jan 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> nos.nl \| Justitie: plak je webcam af - NOS Nieuws [ http://ur1.ca/gff56 ]	Jan 15 19:49
MinceR	he has a few comments on DDG at https://plus.google.com/+JeffJarvis/posts/5X7nHcjijsC	Jan 15 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	plus.google.com \| Jeff Jarvis - Google+ - I'm appalled that I just got email from someone flacking… [ http://ur1.ca/e9f1w ]	Jan 15 19:49
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521906	Jan 15 19:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Our ability to share is often used as a tool against us. The wrong people are watching, listening and using it for their advantage. They can drown out the truth with broadcast, censor it on the internet and physically neutralize those telling it.	Jan 15 19:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> phys.org \| Study: Internet erodes democratic protections [ http://ur1.ca/gff61 ]	Jan 15 19:51
schestowitz__	'We are watching those 'wrong people' too. Populations are so far naive and we need to teach people to understand their communications convey power and to use that wisely. there is immense wisdom out there yet to be tapped"	Jan 15 19:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Americana777/status/423541051593224193	Jan 15 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr	@Americana777: @schestowitz Oh, thanks, I get it now. Know thy enemy & get rid (kill) of them too. Wish NSA used its power to destroy corruption instead.	Jan 15 19:53
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423546644484079616	Jan 15 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Obedience https://t.co/LLZrfGlsiq	Jan 15 20:07
iophk	nasty compression artifacts haven't they heard of GIF yet?	Jan 15 20:11
iophk	http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=net-neutrality-ruling-opens-door	Jan 15 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.scientificamerican.com \| "Net Neutrality" Ruling Opens Door for 2-Tiered Internet Market: Scientific American [ http://ur1.ca/gffc5 ]	Jan 15 20:14
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423547733173997568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423548081787772928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423548317545803776	Jan 15 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Stallman's love http://t.co/Ttls8zAcqJ	Jan 15 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Dog skiing https://t.co/ei7yRMzr8H rubs eyes	Jan 15 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Flat tire https://t.co/jS4tji7vpa	Jan 15 20:14
MinceR	not flat enough.	Jan 15 20:26
*MinceR gets the steamroller		Jan 15 20:26
iophk	http://act.freepress.net/sign/internet_FCC_court_decision2/	Jan 15 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	act.freepress.net \| FreePress.net \| Tell the FCC: Restore Net Neutrality [ http://ur1.ca/gffk2 ]	Jan 15 20:27
schestowitz__	anti-Snowden trolls in Twitter, like the anti-Manning ones I used to see https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423550917565497345 https://twitter.com/SnowdenAss/status/423552651708469248	Jan 15 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: After drowning out the truth about #benzygler (apparently another #snowden but less successful) they jailed and killed him, it seems...	Jan 15 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@SnowdenAss: @schestowitz it wouldn't kill you to at least get his name right. Surname is Zygier, not Zygler. Do you also spell #Snowden as #Snowdin?	Jan 15 20:32
schestowitz__	He's being suicided in the press again http://www.timesofisrael.com/australia-fm-dont-call-settlements-illegal-under-international-law/	Jan 15 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.timesofisrael.com \| Australia FM: Don't call settlements illegal under international law \| The Times of Israel [ http://ur1.ca/gffra ]	Jan 15 20:35
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423550917565497345 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423554098475307008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423554335600287744	Jan 15 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #propaganda and #coverup imported from the nation with vested interests http://t.co/gluatE5Ari http://t.co/yeJnf15wD2	Jan 15 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.jpost.com \| UK picks up Israeli developed TV show about Prisoner X \| JPost \| Israel News	Jan 15 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.smh.com.au \| Tale of Israel's Prisoner X Ben Zygier is headed to television	Jan 15 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The corporate press is 'suiciding' a murdered man again and again, as if repeating the lie will somehow give it more legitimacy	Jan 15 20:37
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423550917565497345	Jan 15 20:38
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423555302374768640 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423555591156801536	Jan 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Is there an anti- #snowden #astroturf campaign kicking off at #twitter https://t.co/9mfdKsbALx there used to be such anti- #manning accounts	Jan 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> twitter.com \| SnowdenAss (SnowdenAss) on Twitter	Jan 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "The US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay has been caught conducting covert propaganda attacks on the internet." http://t.co/46NlFfumqR	Jan 15 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> wikileaks.org \| Wikileaks busts Gitmo propaganda team - WikiLeaks	Jan 15 20:42
iophk	http://www.thenation.com/blog/177915/fcc-can-and-must-prevent-segregated-internet	Jan 15 20:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.thenation.com \| The Internet As We Know It Is In Peril. The FCC Can (And Must) Save It \| The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/gffyw ]	Jan 15 20:44
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520345	Jan 15 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Epiphany-Web-Browser-Now-Uses-HTTPS-for-Google-Searches-by-Default-416947.shtml why use Google at all?	Jan 15 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default [ http://ur1.ca/gff0w ]	Jan 15 20:46
schestowitz__	"Ixquick is a metasearch engine based in New York and the Netherlands."	Jan 15 20:47
schestowitz__	New York?	Jan 15 20:47
schestowitz__	When did THAT happen?	Jan 15 20:47
schestowitz__	"ixquick uses google ads..."	Jan 15 20:47
schestowitz__	Where? If that's true, I'd like to see it.	Jan 15 20:47
schestowitz__	"host more Yacy Servers \o/ ;)"	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521482	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@meneer@pod.orkz.net: Dutch government advises to cover your webcam, here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i841CamEX3o (Dutch gov notification: http://nos.nl/video/597900-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html )	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Webcam [Official Short Film] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4a ]	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	"Yes, is valid for most people :)"	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> nos.nl \| Justitie: plak je webcam af - NOS Nieuws [ http://ur1.ca/gffzu ]	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521726	Jan 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jacob Appelbaum's talk made it sound as though #Nightstand was a rarely used tool, not attached to ~100,000 nodes/points.	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	"Yep, expensive. If they actually got warrants for it, I'd think it was OK. Their ordinary spying compromises hundreds of millions if not billions of people."	Jan 15 20:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521822	Jan 15 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@willhill@joindiaspora.com reshared: Now I think I can understand why Business Insider attacks #nsa critics. They're funded by Marc Andreeseen http://www.businessinsider.com/marc-andreessen-on-the-nsa-2014-1	Jan 15 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessinsider.com \| Marc Andreessen On The NSA - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gfe97 ]	Jan 15 20:49
schestowitz__	"So many bad guys and so little time ........... So what is the count so far on number of bad guys caught by NSA spying ......... is it greater than ZERO yet ? Odd world ....... as said just do it ..... the proof is in the results."	Jan 15 20:49
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schestowitz__	I have just checked page source and I see nothing like Google or any other domain (cross-site access)	Jan 15 20:52
schestowitz__	in izuick that is...	Jan 15 20:52
schestowitz__	ixquic.vom	Jan 15 20:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Americana777/status/423541051593224193	Jan 15 20:54
TechrightsBot-tr	@Americana777: @schestowitz Oh, thanks, I get it now. Know thy enemy & get rid (kill) of them too. Wish NSA used its power to destroy corruption instead.	Jan 15 20:54
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423558640516075520	Jan 15 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: It didn't take long for the lobbyist/mole who entered the #fcc to sell us all out http://t.co/t7r4YTWaep	Jan 15 20:59
MinceR	http://amultiverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/x2014-01-15-Hard-Evidence.jpg.pagespeed.ic.25qdqkdzz6.jpg	Jan 15 21:03
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423559903048105984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423560782933426176 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423561989378801664 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423562274511781888	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Video: US police murders man http://t.co/jdUl6XD6K7	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.latimes.com \| Full un-edited video presented in Kelly Thomas murder trial -- latimes.com	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The Jury showed empathy for violence in the #KellyThomas case - it doesn't matter. He was poor. He was asking for it. (sad sarcasm)	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: How #police works https://t.co/8gBAP1x8oP echoes my observations in the #uk - they sometimes arrest reporters of #crime	Jan 15 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: In the #uk when you phone the #police they say it's a crime to falsely report crimes; when you report the crime they do nothing. Pointless.	Jan 15 21:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423562526807568385 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423562763651530752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563145538723840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563333875552256	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The "bad" guys https://t.co/W1LDzfNTD8 and those who led to his death are held up as "justice"	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Not sure about the #fcc but I submitted numerous complaints to #ftc - they're a joke, they do nothing. Like police, just sit, eat all day.	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: We already know who the biggest criminals and villains are; they lobby hard for SOPA, ACTA, TPP. And they have army: http://t.co/bcnJtzzfhs	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	-> myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Hard" working people https://t.co/qP0kGVkRMG	Jan 15 21:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563554617589760 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563991278157824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423564304039030784	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Free software necessary for humanity https://t.co/T2IqBscaq7	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Spirit of MLK and Worldwide Wave, Hints of a Global Spring http://t.co/zfwPxE6n5R #tpp the last straw (looting)?	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.huffingtonpost.com \| Spirit of MLK and Worldwide Wave, Hints of a Global Spring \| Jacob Devaney	Jan 15 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Worth of lives https://t.co/Rqymn3qaJi	Jan 15 21:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423565324760645632	Jan 15 21:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Convenient illusions are said to be "necessary" because the world is cruel and unjust and those who can't relate usually just can't see it	Jan 15 21:22
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423567163090558976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423567755649228800	Jan 15 21:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Camouflage https://t.co/uWd62QPISm	Jan 15 21:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #TPP in plain English https://t.co/WPN4JevQUJ	Jan 15 21:32
Sosumi	TPP	Jan 15 21:34
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeDKNeXCUAAxFfL.jpg:large	Jan 15 21:34
Sosumi	15% import tax, specially if it is foreign sweat shop labored goods, tax financial transactions at the stock exchange and ban derivatives	Jan 15 21:36
Sosumi	should be a good start	Jan 15 21:36
Sosumi	instead of another free exploitation treaty	Jan 15 21:36
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522457	Jan 15 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Video: US police murders man http://www.latimes.com/videogallery/69846618/News/Full-un-edited-video-presented-in-Kelly-Thomas-murder-trial	Jan 15 21:36
schestowitz__	"Well it shows an utter disrespect for human life on both parts, the cops as well as the jury's."	Jan 15 21:36
schestowitz__	Sosumi: nice one	Jan 15 21:38
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc_Q5nrCcAEJVhC.png:large	Jan 15 21:38
schestowitz__	posted	Jan 15 21:38
Sosumi	beware of the lord of the tentacle	Jan 15 21:38
Sosumi	http://www.michaeljournal.org/images/octopus.jpg	Jan 15 21:39
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423568820528496640 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423568962992214016 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423569196208119808 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423569756533575680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423569878143209472	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: What open source means to a young programmer http://t.co/Hctk6ZHefk #freedom #programming #independence	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> opensource.com \| What open source means to a young programmer \| opensource.com	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Urgent Request for Funding OpenBSD HQ's Electricity http://t.co/hGieOHCsyQ #openbsd is getting weak and the foundation is too	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.undeadly.org \| Urgent Request for Funding OpenBSD HQ's Electricity	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: KDE SC 4.12 gets January update http://t.co/bF0CUd0IDG #kde #gnu #linux	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| KDE SC 4.12 gets January update \| Muktware	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Crushing us with #tpp https://t.co/wNEteQFs2E how much more will oligarchs get away with? http://t.co/92D6NsWS1d	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| I'm mad as Hell and I'm not going to take this anymore - YouTube	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: What #tpp does https://t.co/ZaDdwIW8IO	Jan 15 21:41
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/DebianBleat/status/423570343136329728	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@DebianBleat: @schestowitz Hi, you mention #programming and this img for you. HD http://t.co/xgPjIKfVGE #ruby http://t.co/dpLFxu1ptI	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> wallbase.cc \| Justin Maller abstract animals black background digital art wallpaper (#2940341) / Wallbase.cc	Jan 15 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@DebianBleat: @schestowitz Hi, you mention #programming and this img for you. HD http://t.co/xgPjIKfVGE #ruby http://t.co/dpLFxu1ptI	Jan 15 21:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522457	Jan 15 21:47
schestowitz__	"I'm not going to watch this, but it just seems like America in the world, being reflected in its own 'body'. Violence against weak, vulnerable goes, so long as 'we' can get away with it. The USA is a danger to itself, humanity, and life on this planet. We need a better model of "freedom", "democracy" and "justice" than "violence for profit"."	Jan 15 21:47
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521094	Jan 15 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NetNeutrality Quashed: New Pricing Schemes, Throttling, and Business Models to Follow http://www.technologyreview.com/news/523606/net-neutrality-quashed-new-pricing-schemes-throttling-and-business-models-to-follow/ http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/net-neutrality-blown/	Jan 15 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.technologyreview.com \| Net Neutrality Quashing Will Mean New Pricing Schemes, Throttling, and Business Models \| MIT Technology Review [ http://ur1.ca/gfaz8 ]	Jan 15 21:47
schestowitz__	"By the theory of change, he's the person to direct action at."	Jan 15 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| US Courts Are Cementing the Gradual Death of the World Wide Web (As We Know It) \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfc1o ]	Jan 15 21:47
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521969	Jan 15 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: linux tablets from mozilla are coming http://www.geek.com/tablets/mozilla-just-got-its-first-firefox-os-tablets-from-foxconn-1582133/	Jan 15 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.geek.com \| Mozilla just got its first Firefox OS tablets from Foxconn \| Tablets \| Geek.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfdtp ]	Jan 15 21:48
schestowitz__	"I know they're probably no worse than other manufacturers, but it still seems like a shame that they'd be allying with one of the ones with the most worker's rights controversies surrounding them."	Jan 15 21:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423573792024449024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423574393768652800	Jan 15 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: How to complain about mobile filtering over-blocking https://t.co/9xmrD6X4ri Read: how to report illegal #censorship	Jan 15 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - How to complain about mobile filtering over-blocking	Jan 15 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #censorship of sites in the #eu by legal threats http://t.co/LZAkO5f2se	Jan 15 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.laquadrature.net \| Civil Society Calls on the ECHR's Grand Chamber to Overturn Delfi v. Estonia Ruling \| La Quadrature du Net	Jan 15 21:58
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TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Assessing an evaluation of #gnu #linux distros to use http://t.co/rxCDtauv2i	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.itworld.com \| Best Linux distributions for 2014? \| ITworld	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Linux -powered telepresence robot gets personal http://t.co/GvCH3cVohl	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> linuxgizmos.com \| Linux-powered telepresence robot gets personal · LinuxGizmos.com	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Choice (same brand, many flavours) https://t.co/7ukvlwZtej	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Schools Have Become A Playground For Food And Beverage Marketing http://t.co/OIAHBsFQNO teaching them brands while they're young	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> thinkprogress.org \| Schools Have Become A Playground For Food And Beverage Marketing \| ThinkProgress	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: RMS meets Rahul Gandhi http://t.co/mvfeehpQtN will edit and release more #rms videos soon...	Jan 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.space-kerala.org \| RMS meets Rahul Gandhi \| Society For Promotion of Alternative Computing and Employment	Jan 15 22:23
Sosumi	http://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/wifi-bug-lets-nsa-cross-impentrable-air-gap/	Jan 15 22:34
TechrightsBot-tr	slashdot.org \| WiFi Bug Lets NSA Cross Impentrable Air Gap [ http://ur1.ca/gfhgk ]	Jan 15 22:34
Sosumi	"Under a program code-named Quantum, the NSA has been inserting tiny circuit boards or doctoring USB devices to create a new wireless network interface that can allow its operatives to remotely link to even air-gapped computers using coded signals, obscure frequencies and radio-signal relays that could be miles away from the target and sometimes occupy no more space than a briefcase, according to a Jan. 14 story in The New York Times. "	Jan 15 22:36
Sosumi	remember the movies "enemy of the state" and "eagle eye"?	Jan 15 22:36
Sosumi	predictive programming at best	Jan 15 22:36
Sosumi	eagle eye featured things like knowing the whereabouts of vehicles among other things	Jan 15 22:37
Sosumi	what do we know? manufacturers track your usage of the car through the built gps/electronics	Jan 15 22:38
Sosumi	I'm actually glad I have an old but functional car	Jan 15 22:38
MinceR	i remember a computer that for some obscure reason needed to look at a bunch of monitors using a camera	Jan 15 22:41
MinceR	as for the air gap: this is why i'm glad my raspberry pi has no built-in wi-fi or bluetooth (or other rf) interface	Jan 15 22:43
Sosumi	hipster computer then, relying on eavesdropping instead of taking over the system	Jan 15 22:43
MinceR	:>	Jan 15 22:43
Sosumi	real computers don't have built in wireless	Jan 15 22:44
MinceR	mobile ones do :>	Jan 15 22:44
MinceR	even wireless charging :>	Jan 15 22:44
Sosumi	not a single workstation grade board comes with wifi or bluetooth	Jan 15 22:44
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 22:44
Sosumi	usually only consumer stuff does	Jan 15 22:45
MinceR	hm, actually this new nsa stuff is about hidden extra circuits	Jan 15 22:46
MinceR	anything could have those, i guess	Jan 15 22:46
MinceR	time for the rise of free hardware, i guess	Jan 15 22:46
MinceR	maybe with faster fpga-based cpus and gpus	Jan 15 22:46
Sosumi	yes, but usually on normal boards there are no emi shields convering things up	Jan 15 22:47
Sosumi	like there are on boards with built radios	Jan 15 22:47
Sosumi	*built in	Jan 15 22:47
MinceR	which makes it scarier for boards you didn't expect to have radios	Jan 15 22:47
Sosumi	I think anything strange would be noticeable	Jan 15 22:47
Sosumi	you'd notice the antenas on the board	Jan 15 22:48
MinceR	not if they formed part of the wiring	Jan 15 22:48
Sosumi	disguised as wiring?	Jan 15 22:48
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 22:48
Sosumi	but even then, wouldn't the aluminum/steel case shield the entire thing?	Jan 15 22:49
MinceR	depends on a lot of things, i guess	Jan 15 22:49
MinceR	with the right kind of grounding, i imagine it could even use the case as an antenna	Jan 15 22:49
MinceR	or if there are large enough openings, it could communicate through those	Jan 15 22:50
MinceR	(unshielded stuff and such)	Jan 15 22:50
Sosumi	yes, with grounding is possible	Jan 15 22:50
Sosumi	unless you properly shield it	Jan 15 22:50
MinceR	also, there was a suspected hoax where someone talked about computers using ultrasound to bridge air gaps	Jan 15 22:50
Sosumi	nah, what I heard was using laser microfones to record keypressing sounds	Jan 15 22:51
MinceR	there's that	Jan 15 22:51
Sosumi	and then bruteforce the sounds into key presses	Jan 15 22:51
MinceR	i've heard of laser microphones, but not their use to record computer input	Jan 15 22:51
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/HansNiesund/status/423587476255830016	Jan 15 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@HansNiesund: @schestowitz ... Then look up the relevance of proximity under international law (none) and the principle of self-determination #falklands	Jan 15 22:52
Sosumi	what I am fearful is of poisoned silicon	Jan 15 22:53
MinceR	?	Jan 15 22:53
Sosumi	who knows what is inside those intel chips and bridges	Jan 15 22:53
Sosumi	poisoned silicon = hardware silicon	Jan 15 22:53
MinceR	hidden circuitry and backdoors or poisons that act on humans?	Jan 15 22:53
MinceR	(which could be released via heat, i guess)	Jan 15 22:54
Sosumi	fail, poisoned silicon = backdoor/vulnerability built into the hardware	Jan 15 22:54
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 22:54
Sosumi	just kind of ZZZzzzº	Jan 15 22:54
MinceR	gn	Jan 15 22:55
Sosumi	and so any code compiled on that hardware would inherit a vulnerability	Jan 15 22:55
MinceR	so, trusting trust attack initiated in hardware	Jan 15 22:56
Sosumi	and to turn matters worse intel moved in to encrypt their execution	Jan 15 22:56
MinceR	?	Jan 15 22:57
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423582737040437249 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423583194546712578 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423583398280822784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423584911564738560	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "government had deal with Mexican drug cartel Sinaloa that allowed the group to smuggle billion of dollars of drugs" http://t.co/ccawzdhM6s	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| NO TITLE	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Freemasons attempted to find out which detectives were suspected of links to organised" http://t.co/KolFcev9Zu welcome to #uk #police	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| Revealed: How gangs used the Freemasons to corrupt police - Crime - UK - The Independent	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: I know some high=level police officers in the #uk who are openly "Freemasons". I guess The Independent's report won't help them much.	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #uk follows the #china model not just when it comes to #censorship http://t.co/6Szpj351Zn	Jan 15 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| The lost girls: Department of Health to act on reports of illegal abortions by gender - Crime - UK - The Independent	Jan 15 22:58
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423585737075068928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423586285807468544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423587011690504193 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423587866032480256 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423589749505675265	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #China and #Philippines : The reasons why a battle for Zhongye (Pag-asa) Island seems unavoidable http://t.co/HNiy2jK4lH watch map...	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> chinadailymail.com \| China and Philippines: The reasons why a battle for Zhongye (Pag-asa) Island seems unavoidable \| China Daily Mail	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Watch the map of #uk #argentina and #falklands then decide whose territory it is https://t.co/JMJ8fNKonh	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> en.wikipedia.org \| Falklands War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Government accused of 'bribing local councils' on controversial fracking projects http://t.co/f1eksh3WUI #fracking #uk #crime #bribe	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| Government accused of 'bribing local councils' on controversial fracking projects - Environment - The Independent	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Monsanto announces high profits and major expansion across Latin America http://t.co/H9vYMqVSGf no execs in #jail yet	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| Monsanto announces high profits and major expansion across Latin America — RT USA	Jan 15 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Monsanto is one of the best examples I can think of when you wish to show that crime pays off. Reward for genocide, mortality, bribes, etc.	Jan 15 22:59
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522261	Jan 15 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Common wisdom in Western corporate media is that #china shows us what will come to us; I beg to differ: #uk / #us show what comes to world.	Jan 15 23:01
schestowitz__	"That's a neat trick, define the future by writing about something most people can't really check. I don't want the world to be like what people tell me China is. I want it even less to be what corporate media tells me it will be. We can make a better world than bullshit and oppression."	Jan 15 23:01
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522773	Jan 15 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I know some high=level police officers in the #uk who are openly "Freemasons". I guess The Independent's report won't help them much.	Jan 15 23:01
schestowitz__	"there is a lot of politicians who are publicy known freemason in belgium"	Jan 15 23:01
Sosumi	I think I made some confusion with trusted execution	Jan 15 23:01
Sosumi	or not	Jan 15 23:01
Sosumi	!google trusted execution	Jan 15 23:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Trusted Execution Technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Execution_Technology	Jan 15 23:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Trusted Compute Pools with Intel® Trusted Execution Technology \| http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/trusted-execution-technology/malware-reduction-general-technology.html	Jan 15 23:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Intel® Trusted Execution Technology: White Paper \| http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/trusted-execution-technology/trusted-execution-technology-security-paper.html	Jan 15 23:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Trusted Execution Technology - Intel \| http://www.intel.com/technology/security	Jan 15 23:02
Sosumi	GN	Jan 15 23:05
schestowitz__	nn	Jan 15 23:11
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/meneer/status/423593199459119104	Jan 15 23:12
TechrightsBot-tr	@meneer: @piratenpartij volgen jullie @schestowitz al? En zitten jullie op een #diaspora* pod?	Jan 15 23:12
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423591382218194946 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423593100779335681 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423593234439630850 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423594005067497472	Jan 15 23:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "When software is open, its strengths and weaknesses are visible to everyone." http://t.co/p58Rr1m22w	Jan 15 23:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.pirateparty.org.uk \| Opinion: What you dont see you dont care, but you should - Pirate Party UK	Jan 15 23:16
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." -- Orwell	Jan 15 23:16
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Security https://t.co/VHGc4uaLiN	Jan 15 23:16
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: When man attacks corporation it's a crime. When corporation attacks many men (and women) it's "a mystery" http://t.co/pGdZGPTOKZ	Jan 15 23:16
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thenation.com \| West Virginia ERs Report an Influx of Patients After Water Deemed Safe \| The Nation	Jan 15 23:16
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423595242483646464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423598149564104704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423598904073261056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423599161137975296 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423599853470355456	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Jono says 2014 http://t.co/hsMH4pA3ru just 2 days later: http://t.co/SFiDZHPF1V	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thinkdigit.com \| New Ubuntu phones to be launched in 2014 - Mobile Phone News \| ThinkDigit	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.ubergizmo.com \| Ubuntu Touch Phone Not Expected Until 2015 \| Ubergizmo	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Tizen is designed to be a low-cost, highly configurable OS" http://t.co/fP0PjswtPi #linux #tizen #mobile #intel #nokia #samsung	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.linuxinsider.com \| What's Up With Tizen? \| Mobile \| LinuxInsider	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #obama is having a /#bush (not senior) moment https://t.co/j1HAznkRnf #nsa #NotATyrant	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Another OpenGL 4.2 Extension Is Hitting Mesa http://t.co/IhXcITxegH #opengl #mesa #linux	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Another OpenGL 4.2 Extension Is Hitting Mesa	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: 'Educated' Black Men Appear 'Whiter' in Memory http://t.co/POHrRF2i5J says a lot about #stigma	Jan 15 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.nationaljournal.com \| 'Educated' Black Men Appear 'Whiter' in Memory - NationalJournal.com	Jan 15 23:40
schestowitz__	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians	Jan 15 23:58
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Indigenous Australians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gfibb ]	Jan 15 23:58
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423608326388482049 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423608876643401728	Jan 16 00:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #FISA Court Judges Say They Don't Want Any Changes To How The Rubber Stamp Court Is Run http://t.co/9AW7uS7BnW secret courts=corruption	Jan 16 00:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.techdirt.com \| FISA Court Judges Say They Don't Want Any Changes To How The Rubber Stamp Court Is Run \| Techdirt	Jan 16 00:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #alexnader lied to Congress and others (inc. oversight) just like #clapper - numerous times in fact. When will they be put in prison? #nsa	Jan 16 00:14
schestowitz__	"There is a lot of propaganda in the corporate media right now regarding community self-defense groups (“autodefensas”) in Mexico."	Jan 16 00:17
schestowitz__	http://www.interference.cc/propaganda-surrounding-vigilante-groups-in-southern-mexico-autodefensas/	Jan 16 00:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.interference.cc \| Deconstructing recent propaganda surrounding “vigilante groups” in Southern Mexico \| Interference [ http://ur1.ca/gfiff ]	Jan 16 00:18
schestowitz__	Trolling with "gates"http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/79774.html	Jan 16 00:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.linuxinsider.com \| Red Hat and CentOS: A Great Thing or a Gates Thing? \| Community \| LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/gfifo ]	Jan 16 00:19
schestowitz__	quoting anti-FOSS troll "hairyfeet"	Jan 16 00:19
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DaemonFC`	http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/15/virginia-gop-candidate-spousal-rape-isnt-a-crime-if-she-is-wearing-a-nightie/	Jan 16 01:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.rawstory.com \| Virginia GOP candidate: Spousal rape isn’t a crime if she is ‘wearing a nightie’ \| The Raw Story [ http://ur1.ca/gfipu ]	Jan 16 01:15
DaemonFC`	Someone mentioned this on Amazon without a link. So, someone asked for a link. The person who originally posted said to google it. The person that asked for a link says "I'm not typing 'Dick Black' into Google.".	Jan 16 01:15
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DaemonFC	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU3MjE	Jan 16 02:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] OpenBSD Foundation At Risk Of Shutting Down [ http://ur1.ca/gfj72 ]	Jan 16 02:38
DaemonFC	"The OpenBSD Foundation is running into a situation of lack of funding to the point that they can't even cover their electricity costs and may be forced to suspend or reduce their operations without additional help. "	Jan 16 02:39
DaemonFC	"So far no company has come forward to sponsor their electricity needs."	Jan 16 02:40
DaemonFC	And no company will. They're like Apple. They take the software and run. Make it proprietary.	Jan 16 02:40
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DaemonFC	schestowitz__: http://www.alternet.org/economy/apple-meets-its-worst-nightmare-federally-appointed-antitrust-lawyer-hell-bent-doing-his-job	Jan 16 03:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alternet.org \| Apple Meets Its Worst Nightmare: Federally Appointed Antitrust Lawyer Hell-Bent on Doing His Job \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gfjix ]	Jan 16 03:43
DaemonFC	You might want to link to that.	Jan 16 03:43
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx148UL9TRWO94L	Jan 16 04:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: [crApple] meets their worst enemy. An antitrust investigator that is determined to do his job. [ http://ur1.ca/gfjn4 ]	Jan 16 04:05
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DaemonFC	According to Clarity Ray, the following percentage of users of each browser block ads.	Jan 16 07:01
DaemonFC	Chrome: 19%	Jan 16 07:01
DaemonFC	Firefox: 18.3%, Safari 11.3%, Opera: 7.76%, and IE 3.86%	Jan 16 07:02
DaemonFC	I got a hacked version of Candy Crush for my phone.	Jan 16 07:18
DaemonFC	It allows any move you want to make. LOL	Jan 16 07:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/423632548481085440	Jan 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@Morality124: @schestowitz I choose #XFCE :)	Jan 16 08:14
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/pavithrans/status/423618966863355905	Jan 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@pavithrans: @schestowitz Glad that someone went to details to explain the difference in the #gnome old and new #linux :)	Jan 16 08:14
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 16 09:18
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DaemonFC	http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&m=104197092318639&w=2	Jan 16 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr	lists.kde.org \| '(fwd) Greetings from the Safari team at Apple Computer' - MARC [ http://ur1.ca/gflwi ]	Jan 16 10:07
DaemonFC	"We've	Jan 16 10:08
DaemonFC	also made significant enhancements, bug fixes, and performance	Jan 16 10:08
DaemonFC	improvements to KHTML and KJS."	Jan 16 10:08
DaemonFC	Like making it 1,000 times bigger and slower.	Jan 16 10:08
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iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/dotcoms-internet-party-aims-to-shake-up-politics-140115/	Jan 16 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Dotcom’s ‘Internet Party’ Aims to Shake Up Politics \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gflzl ]	Jan 16 10:25
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/dotcoms-internet-party-aims-to-shake-up-politics-140115/	Jan 16 10:29
iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/14/kim-dotcom-megaupload-pirate-innovator-dance-album-interview	Jan 16 10:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Kim Dotcom: 'I'm not a pirate, I'm an innovator' \| Technology \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gfm07 ]	Jan 16 10:29
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/whodunit-hyper-v-failure-may-reveal-fabled-escape-attack-234164	Jan 16 10:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Whodunit: A Hyper-V failure may reveal fabled 'escape attack' \| Microsoft Windows - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gfm0s ]	Jan 16 10:33
Sosumi	safari? that browser that at this point still shokes on pages with tons of gifs	Jan 16 10:35
Sosumi	and randomly crashes	Jan 16 10:35
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/net-neutrality-we-need-hero-the-unlikeliest-of-places-234261	Jan 16 10:35
iophk	can conflict of interest be overcome?	Jan 16 10:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Net neutrality: We need a hero, from the unlikeliest of places \| Data Center - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gfm0x ]	Jan 16 10:35
Sosumi	without generating a crash report	Jan 16 10:35
Sosumi	awesome! better dump their contribution ASAP	Jan 16 10:36
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iophk	old - http://www.thelocal.se/20140107/hitler-furious-at-swedish-ministers-satire-mishap	Jan 16 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.thelocal.se \| 'Hitler furious' at Swedish minister's satire mishap - The Local [ http://ur1.ca/gfm4t ]	Jan 16 10:53
Sosumi	I guess that I was right all along by pulling an one man effort without relying on external institutions for research funding	Jan 16 10:56
Sosumi	massive cuts in research and on paid scholarships just announced	Jan 16 10:57
Sosumi	got to love austerity	Jan 16 10:57
Sosumi	perhaps now I should build a terminator that instead of wanting to kill Sarah Connor	Jan 16 10:58
Sosumi	it kills bankers and dirty politicians	Jan 16 10:58
Sosumi	http://www.tsf.pt/PaginaInicial/Portugal/Interior.aspx?content_id=3634516&utm_source=dlvr.it	Jan 16 11:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tsf.pt \| Bolseiros de Investigação Científica denunciam cortes brutais em bolsas - TSF [ http://ur1.ca/gfmah ]	Jan 16 11:00
Sosumi	from TSF	Jan 16 11:00
Sosumi	join the EU they said, or you'll be left behind they said	Jan 16 11:05
Sosumi	you'll be walking around in greek togas they said, join our utopia they said	Jan 16 11:06
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iophk	https://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/10-security-privacy-issues-you-might-not-know-about-your-car%E2%80%99s-auto-location-services	Jan 16 11:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.networkworld.com \| 10 security, privacy issues you might not know about your car’s auto-location services [ http://ur1.ca/gfmk2 ]	Jan 16 11:15
DaemonFC	I just pirated NFS Hot Pursuit for my phone.	Jan 16 11:49
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 16 11:49
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schestowitz	Energy/Climate Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/pollution-weather-environmental-issues/ #energy #climate #environment #wildlife	Jan 16 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Energy/Climate Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfmsa ]	Jan 16 11:52
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schestowitz	Economic Disparity Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/economic-disparity/ #finance #economy #uk #portugal #eu #bitcoin	Jan 16 11:55
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Economic Disparity Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfmu1 ]	Jan 16 11:55
schestowitz	Covert Action Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/covert-action-watch/ #mi6 #cia #mexico #russia #china #korea	Jan 16 12:02
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Covert Action Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn3p ]	Jan 16 12:02
schestowitz	Police Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/police-watch-january-2014/ #police #uk #us #australia #germany #argentina	Jan 16 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Police Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn4g ]	Jan 16 12:08
schestowitz	Torture Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/torture-watch-january-2014/ #torture #interrogation #abuse #humanrights	Jan 16 12:11
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Torture Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn4t ]	Jan 16 12:11
schestowitz	Drones Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/drones-watch-january-2014/ #drones #nsa #cia #assassination #pakistan #iraq #yemen	Jan 16 12:12
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Drones Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn4x ]	Jan 16 12:12
iophk	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2429536,00.asp	Jan 16 12:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcmag.com \| The Remarkable Intel NUC \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfn64 ]	Jan 16 12:19
iophk	Those universities that have moved to "cloud" based services have really put their head in a noose since all that traffic goes over the net, often long distances over many ISPs.	Jan 16 12:28
iophk	http://thejournal.com/articles/2014/01/16/net-neutrality-ruling-impact-on-education.aspx	Jan 16 12:28
TechrightsBot-tr	thejournal.com \| Will Net Neutrality Ruling Doom Education to Second-Class Status? -- THE Journal [ http://ur1.ca/gfnah ]	Jan 16 12:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/a_vl/status/423797638836670464	Jan 16 12:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@a_vl: "@schestowitz: 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For Netbooks http://t.co/XgPGRYFs2n #gnu #linux" / great anlysis and sugestions.	Jan 16 12:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For Netbooks ~ Everyday Linux User	Jan 16 12:51
amarsh04	the other thing that is crazy is university libraries outsourcing their catalogues	Jan 16 12:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423796761153777664 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423800906770296832	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Patent Troll #MPHJ Run by Lawyer Jay Mac Rust, Sending Nastygrams to 16,465 Businesses For Using Scanners http://t.co/a2oBsSaTEo #swpats	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Patent Troll MPHJ Run by Lawyer Jay Mac Rust, Sending Nastygrams to 16,465 Businesses For Using Scanners \| Techrights	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #CESG ( #UK Government): GNU/Linux the Most Secure Operating System; New Backdoors Released for #Windows http://t.co/Ey0RLWgS8z #gnu #linux	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| CESG (UK Government): GNU/Linux the Most Secure Operating System; New Backdoors Released for Windows \| Techrights	Jan 16 12:57
schestowitz	NSA #Surveillance Goes Offline, Potentially Gives Cancer http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/snowden-whistleblower/ #nsa #nytimes #snowden	Jan 16 12:57
schestowitz	#COINTELPRO Never Really Ended, It Just Changed Identity http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/cointelpro-changed-names/ #swartz #protest #peace #vietnam #fbi nypd #cia #nsa	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| NSA Surveillance Goes Offline, Potentially Gives Cancer \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfnn8 ]	Jan 16 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| COINTELPRO Never Really Ended, It Just Changed Identity \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfnn9 ]	Jan 16 12:57
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423805291562823680	Jan 16 13:14
DaemonFC	http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/18/clarityray-ad-blockers/	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Links 16/1/2014: Games http://t.co/0j5HUcPO69 Instructionals http://t.co/Jou7dxxGpG Applications http://t.co/JFNRc1i1p4 #techrights	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2014: Games \| Techrights	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2014: Instructionals \| Techrights	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2014: Applications \| Techrights	Jan 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr	techcrunch.com \| ClarityRay Battles Ad Blockers With $500K In Funding \| TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gfnq7 ]	Jan 16 13:14
DaemonFC	If you get through my ad blocker, I will make it a point to never buy anything from you.	Jan 16 13:14
DaemonFC	I have an ad blocker because I don't like being annoyed.	Jan 16 13:14
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DaemonFC	These games are huge. Glad I got the 32 GB phone.	Jan 16 13:19
DaemonFC	The 16 GB one wouldn't hold very many at 500 MB to 1.5 GB apiece.	Jan 16 13:19
MinceR	http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/01/15/nazis_genital_mutilation_and_gay_propaganda_or_human_rights_in_europe_according_to_	Jan 16 13:24
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.foreignpolicy.com \| Russian Human Rights Report Casts Europe as Land of Nazis and Gay Propaganda [ http://ur1.ca/gfnrm ]	Jan 16 13:24
MinceR	that's what the EU gets for tolerating a dictatorship as a member	Jan 16 13:25
MinceR	http://abstrusegoose.com/552	Jan 16 13:52
TechrightsBot-tr	abstrusegoose.com \| Abstruse Goose \| Astronaut Barbie	Jan 16 13:52
schestowitz	MinceR: notice the url	Jan 16 13:53
schestowitz	compare to headline	Jan 16 13:53
schestowitz	some editor didn't like to talk about genital mutilation it seems	Jan 16 13:53
MinceR	yeah	Jan 16 13:53
schestowitz	maybe he was himself mutilated	Jan 16 13:53
MinceR	it's holy and must be respected	Jan 16 13:53
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 16 13:53
MinceR	because preventing people from mutilating children would not be respectful enough of religion	Jan 16 13:54
schestowitz	DaemonFC: companies that make money from doing evil	Jan 16 13:57
schestowitz	surveillance, arms, patents, brainwash...	Jan 16 13:57
iophk	http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/blair-westlake-resigns-from-microsoft-1201059105/	Jan 16 13:58
TechrightsBot-tr	variety.com \| Blair Westlake Resigns from Microsoft \| Variety [ http://ur1.ca/gfnwo ]	Jan 16 13:58
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schestowitz	cool	Jan 16 14:11
schestowitz	I will do a post	Jan 16 14:11
DaemonFC	schestowitz: They promise to "sort out your ad-blocked inventory".	Jan 16 14:14
DaemonFC	Fuck them. I'm not inventory.	Jan 16 14:14
iophk	is this an attempt to whitewash it of the association with Surface?	Jan 16 14:15
iophk	http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/19/et-documentary-xbox/	Jan 16 14:15
iophk	Several tons of M$ Surfaces are in the dump too, according to popular conception along side the ET cartridges.	Jan 16 14:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.engadget.com \| Microsoft's first Xbox-exclusive documentary is digging up Atari's past [ http://ur1.ca/gfnzy ]	Jan 16 14:15
iophk	http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240899/Microsoft_writes_off_nearly_1B_to_account_for_Surface_RT_bomb	Jan 16 14:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerworld.com \| Microsoft writes off nearly $1B to account for Surface RT bomb - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gfo01 ]	Jan 16 14:16
iophk	old	Jan 16 14:16
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Sosumi	just some common sense	Jan 16 14:23
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-16/who-has-time-and-motivation-comprehend-mess-were-almost-nobody	Jan 16 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| Who Has The Time And Motivation to Comprehend The Mess We're In? Almost Nobody \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gfo1p ]	Jan 16 14:23
DaemonFC	Well, it's really easy for people to bash app pirates. They say it's only $5 or something. But nobody ever gets one app.	Jan 16 14:25
DaemonFC	You get hundreds or thousands. Most people have no money for that.	Jan 16 14:25
DaemonFC	I think there's something wrong when a computer's hardware costs less than the software it runs.	Jan 16 14:26
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schestowitz	[14:15] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.computerworld.com \| Microsoft writes off nearly $1B to account for Surface RT bomb - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gfo01 ]	Jan 16 14:37
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 16 14:37
schestowitz	only a billion?	Jan 16 14:37
iophk	They probably over inflated the worth as it was.	Jan 16 14:38
MinceR	http://www.secmeme.com/2014/01/till-death-do-us-part.html	Jan 16 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.secmeme.com \| Security Memetics: Till death do us part [ http://ur1.ca/gfo4t ]	Jan 16 14:39
schestowitz	ok, caught up with links here, I plan 2 more articles, 2 more links summaries	Jan 16 14:40
schestowitz	totalling 14 posts today, same as yesterday	Jan 16 14:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423826971697897472 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423826564594552832 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423825603239108608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423824690730504192	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #cia #drones in #yemen http://t.co/qemi2kxbBK	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "I think there's something wrong when a computer's hardware costs less than the software it runs." Ryan at #techrights	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Rape 'expert' called Dick Black http://t.co/AEq2lVX0X9 can't make this stuff up!	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.rawstory.com \| Virginia GOP candidate: Spousal rape isn’t a crime if she is ‘wearing a nightie’ \| The Raw Story	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Apple Meets Its Worst Nightmare: Federally Appointed Antitrust Lawyer Hell-Bent on Doing His Job http://t.co/e8mlPH1bV4 #apple #abuse	Jan 16 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.alternet.org \| Apple Meets Its Worst Nightmare: Federally Appointed Antitrust Lawyer Hell-Bent on Doing His Job \| Alternet	Jan 16 14:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423824379781586944 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423823920429793280 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423820942331379712	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The #fanatic patent aggressor, Apple, is trying to cuddle with #kde http://t.co/neOs7rOXxR send #apple to "Trash"	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> lists.kde.org \| '(fwd) Greetings from the Safari team at Apple Computer' - MARC	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Dotcom’s ‘Internet Party’ Aims to Shake Up Politics http://t.co/wLOyt9NhOv http://t.co/hsi4Xlg9mF nicely named, too	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> torrentfreak.com \| Dotcom’s ‘Internet Party’ Aims to Shake Up Politics \| TorrentFreak	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| Kim Dotcom: 'I'm not a pirate, I'm an innovator' \| Technology \| The Guardian	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: 'Hitler furious' at Swedish minister's satire mishap http://t.co/qYqWYYHJQR Russia calls Europe a land of Nazis http://t.co/pXsw1e74iA	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thelocal.se \| 'Hitler furious' at Swedish minister's satire mishap - The Local	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> blog.foreignpolicy.com \| Russian Human Rights Report Casts Europe as Land of Nazis and Gay Propaganda	Jan 16 14:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423820134432915456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423817538611732480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423816773088313344	Jan 16 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Companies as informants against their customers https://t.co/vzUiqCvGVV’s-auto-location-services	Jan 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ https://t.co/vzUiqCvGVV’s-auto-location-services )	Jan 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Dvorak is experimenting with #gnu #linux again http://t.co/4o12RQK8ji	Jan 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.pcmag.com \| The Remarkable Intel NUC \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com	Jan 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: FCC's incompetence can retard people http://t.co/JnELf9GiG6	Jan 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr	-> thejournal.com \| Will Net Neutrality Ruling Doom Education to Second-Class Status? -- THE Journal	Jan 16 14:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423815917471281152	Jan 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Astronaut Barbie http://t.co/F7n9WM2oxu #humour	Jan 16 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr	-> abstrusegoose.com \| Abstruse Goose \| Astronaut Barbie	Jan 16 14:43
iophk	Does Dvorak have enough seniority to get away with that or will they try to can him over it?	Jan 16 14:43
schestowitz	nope	Jan 16 14:43
schestowitz	but he told me years ago, by email, that he was using ubuntu	Jan 16 14:44
schestowitz	so it's not new	Jan 16 14:44
iophk	the publicity is new	Jan 16 14:44
schestowitz	and I think he does use it, at least some of the time	Jan 16 14:44
schestowitz	no, he mentioned it before	Jan 16 14:44
schestowitz	!google john dvorak ubuntu	Jan 16 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Dvorak Likes Linux \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com \| http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2342703,00.asp	Jan 16 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Woe is Linux. Woe is Me. \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com \| http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2419744,00.asp	Jan 16 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Dvorak News Blog \| http://www.dvorak.org/	Jan 16 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - QotD: John C. Dvorak - Be the signal \| http://bethesignal.org/blog/2009/01/13/qotd-john-c-dvorak/	Jan 16 14:44
schestowitz	brb	Jan 16 14:44
iophk	there appears to be a series on 'exploit of the day' : https://www.schneier.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=NSA	Jan 16 14:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.schneier.com \| Schneier on Security: Entries Tagged NSA [ http://ur1.ca/gfo61 ]	Jan 16 14:46
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iophk	https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-1401.html#2	Jan 16 15:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.schneier.com \| Crypto-Gram: January 15, 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gfob6 ]	Jan 16 15:08
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iophk	"Tom Wheeler is only fanning the flames of the fire with repeatedly vague responses regarding net neutrality. People are up in arms because Wheeler doesn’t view net neutrality as a communication issue, but rather a network (technical) issue, which aligns with yesterday’s court decision."	Jan 16 15:25
iophk	http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/15/why-fcc-chairman-tom-wheeler-isnt-big-on-net-neutrality-rules/	Jan 16 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr	venturebeat.com \| Why FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler isn't big on net neutrality rules \| VentureBeat \| Business \| by Tom Cheredar [ http://ur1.ca/gfokz ]	Jan 16 15:25
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423833108044337152 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423833515500003328 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423837778288582656	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Interventions Watch: January 2014 http://t.co/CN48hMTlNp #syria #iraq #libya #china #russia #sudan #africa #mandela	Jan 16 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Interventions Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Back doors for the government's legalised crackers is also a back doors for non-government crackers https://t.co/jyLd2BZH1v	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Cable/Media Companies’ Conflict in Reporting (and Rupert #Murdoch Really Hates Net Neutrality) http://t.co/Ps9fbeaKLD #NetNeutrality	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Cable/Media Companies’ Conflict in Reporting (and Rupert Murdoch Really Hates Net Neutrality!) \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423844262472851456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423848675031670784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423854731489185792	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: KDE Needs to Tell Apple to Take a Hike http://t.co/ocvvI0yacc #kde #apple #konqueror #kthml #safari #antitrust	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| KDE Needs to Tell Apple to Take a Hike \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Microsoft Vice President Blair Westlake Quits Microsoft http://t.co/TgLmUSj5Th #microsoft #xbox #xboxone #nsa	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Microsoft Vice President Blair Westlake Quits Microsoft \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors http://t.co/TsVZlYbpvr #hyperv #windows #security	Jan 16 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors \| Techrights	Jan 16 16:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423855947879305217 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423856075029614592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423856842364956672 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423857188764155904	Jan 16 16:43
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA Exploit of the Day https://t.co/cNHVG02bPB	Jan 16 16:43
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "84 YEAR OLD CANADIAN WITH DEMENTIA DIES IN HANDCUFFS AT UK IMMIGRATION CENTRE" http://t.co/V1gablqPRl #uk #canada	Jan 16 16:43
TechrightsBot-tr	-> iacknowledge.net \| 84 Year Old Canadian with Dementia Dies in Handcuffs at UK Immigration Centre \| I Acknowledge	Jan 16 16:43
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #FCC 'chairmole': a #lobbyist with a #coup http://t.co/OgeehGDHV4 mission accomplished™	Jan 16 16:43
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Turkish riot police officer who gassed ‘lady in red’ faces prosecution http://t.co/Stf722jtRT #uk #police would have covered (for him) up	Jan 16 16:43
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| Turkish riot police officer who gassed ‘lady in red’ faces prosecution and possible jail term - Europe - World - The Independent	Jan 16 16:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423859395563630592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423859732827623424 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423859875261976576	Jan 16 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA: six out of 10 Americans want reform of data collection, says poll http://t.co/vvVRgCnor5 http://t.co/U3B3RFJ21c http://t.co/8zdPLAQTrh	Jan 16 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| NSA: six out of 10 Americans want reform of data collection, says poll \| World news \| theguardian.com	Jan 16 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.aljazeera.com \| US set to announce NSA reforms - Americas - Al Jazeera English	Jan 16 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessweek.com \| Phone Companies to Win in Obama Plan to Leave Records at NSA - Businessweek	Jan 16 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Bloomberg's 'News' calls it a "win" when the #nsa (without oversight) gets to keep all the call records. Win for Michael #Bloomberg maybe.	Jan 16 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA reform measures quietly included in $1.1tn spending bill http://t.co/e7mv3efMK6 trillions for war and spying, not for care	Jan 16 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| NSA reform measures quietly included in $1.1tn spending bill \| World news \| theguardian.com	Jan 16 16:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423860707181219841 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423861122991919105 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423861330014388224 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423861685502627840	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Companies trust #china more than the #us after the #nsa leaks http://t.co/3eeVlhNm1R	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theregister.co.uk \| Huawei dismisses NSA backdoor claims as profits soar • The Register	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #US citizens recognise their real enemy: oligarchs and military industrial complex http://t.co/ZafXZaJbS5	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.examiner.com \| NSA scandal: Washington State considers cutting off electricity, water for NSA - National Law Enforcement \| Examiner.com	Jan 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA Metadata Collection: Fourth Amendment Violation http://t.co/Dmli7HWnwq why isn't Alexander holed up in some embassy somewhere?	Jan 16 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> jurist.org \| JURIST - Forum: NSA Metadata Collection: Fourth Amendment Violation	Jan 16 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #NSA Whistlebower-- William Binney (formerly NSA): Corruption in NSA, Lies About Snowden, Threats to #Democracy http://t.co/wj7E7q8nWD	Jan 16 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.opednews.com \| Podcast: NSA Whistlebower-- William Binney: Corruption in NSA, Lies About Snowden, Threats to Democracy \| OpEdNews	Jan 16 16:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423862249229676544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423862521658081280 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423862823513759744	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Security Expert Bruce Schneier Says to Foil NSA Spies, Encrypt Everything http://t.co/IM724vP226 #nsa #schneier	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessweek.com \| Security Expert Bruce Schneier Says to Foil NSA Spies, Encrypt Everything - Businessweek	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Privacy advocates fear ‘largely cosmetic’ NSA reform package http://t.co/i8Y47734WM http://t.co/fHsabT1VJz	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.japantimes.co.jp \| Privacy advocates fear 'largely cosmetic' NSA reform package \| The Japan Times	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.voanews.com \| Latest Revelations on NSA Likely to Change Little in US Cyber Spying	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #obama is memorising a speech right now. Who wrote it? They'll use lingual trick to avoid #snowden as "whistleblower" http://t.co/FMLJ0L611X	Jan 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.scmp.com \| Obama set to respond to Snowden about NSA reforms in highly anticipated speech \| South China Morning Post	Jan 16 17:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423864053073584128	Jan 16 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Binney&Drake became aware that they had committed offences,whereupon the did the right thing, laid ground for Snowden http://t.co/BfmkJ0J5jQ	Jan 16 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.delcotimes.com \| Two whistleblowers share concerns of NSA overreach at WCU event	Jan 16 17:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423864411137531905 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423864661092872192 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423865056494116864 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423865355308912640	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: AP/Bloomberg groom makers of #nsa #whitewash at #cbs http://t.co/8HSP1VxYDE corporate media: it's one happy family, it seems	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessweek.com \| Producer: NSA revelations vindicate CBS drama - Businessweek	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The NSA's Biggest Supporter Is Worried About Drone Privacy Issues http://t.co/axtcAtSeQ0 #feinstein volunteer #pr for #nsa	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> motherboard.vice.com \| The NSA's Biggest Supporter Is Worried About Drone Privacy Issues \| Motherboard	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: This Is Where #Drone Operators Kill People by Remote Control http://t.co/XpcHRjoeUx ... https://t.co/eece7YYGm1	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.gizmodo.in \| This Is Where Drone Operators Kill People by Remote Control \| Gizmodo India	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> joindiaspora.com \| This Is Where #Dr...	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Texas named a drone ‘site’ http://t.co/6lsuO4K0wa there's domestic #dissent (aka "terrorism") http://t.co/v3qxiJndju	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.alpineavalanche.com \| Texas named a drone ‘site’ - Alpine Avalanche: News	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bizjournals.com \| UC doesn't want you to fear the dawn of drones - Cincinnati Business Courier	Jan 16 17:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423865747983831040	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #drone #violence may seem "necessary" when the population it's supposed to control is itself violent (cyclical) http://t.co/sBvtCsBl4U	Jan 16 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.opednews.com \| Article: Violence becoming the new norm in America \| OpEdNews	Jan 16 17:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423866789148491776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423867404993982464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423867571256172545	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Secret amendment in Congress keeps #CIA in charge of deadly #drone strikes http://t.co/u3tivrDyO0 http://t.co/rI1ExGzBYy Change?!	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| NO TITLE	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> voiceofrussia.com \| US policymakers seek to block transfer of drone campaign CIA to Pentagon - News - Politics - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "America's Great Game: The CIA's Secret Arabists and the Shaping of the Modern Middle East" - new Wilford book http://t.co/5xCZ6zw2bD	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.usnews.com \| The 'Great Game' and the CIA Shaped the Modern Middle East - US News and World Report	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: DOES BEZOS' CIA LINK, COMPROMISE WASHINGTON POST? http://t.co/K31t0mftXk Rhetorical question. #cia execs now guest writers.	Jan 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.wnd.com \| Does Bezos’ CIA link, compromise Washington Post?	Jan 16 17:23
schestowitz	http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2014/01/pictures-commando-tourism-israel-201418104712893401.html	Jan 16 17:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.aljazeera.com \| In Pictures: 'Commando tourism' in Israel - In Pictures - Al Jazeera English [ http://ur1.ca/gfpin ]	Jan 16 17:26
schestowitz	Symptoms of #empire http://truth-out.org/news/item/21261-the-special-ops-surge-americas-secret-war-in-134-countries	Jan 16 17:28
TechrightsBot-tr	truth-out.org \| The Special Ops Surge: America's Secret War in 134 Countries [ http://ur1.ca/gfpj4 ]	Jan 16 17:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423869663131365376	Jan 16 17:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Leaked #TPP Document Reveals No Regard for #Environment in Trade Agreement http://t.co/2SFZe8yZu4	Jan 16 17:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Leaked TPP Document Reveals No Regard for Environment in Trade Agreement - YouTube	Jan 16 17:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/423869205855735808	Jan 16 17:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@EllieAsksWhy: @schestowitz Yes. He has a variety of other links which will likely result in further compromise to his media businesses.	Jan 16 17:30
schestowitz	which ones? Links...	Jan 16 17:30
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iophk	I've not noticed that the net-neutrality articles have mentioned that it was status quo and how the Internet got built.	Jan 16 17:59
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Sosumi	now that I think of it	Jan 16 18:33
Sosumi	we do kind of need a siri, free, alternative	Jan 16 18:33
Sosumi	that runs locally	Jan 16 18:33
Sosumi	and I don't thin there are any projects out there	Jan 16 18:34
Sosumi	I'll have too look deeper into it, just to make sure	Jan 16 18:36
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeHHLhBCUAEyJ90.jpg:large	Jan 16 18:36
Sosumi	that was the reason I stopped gaming	Jan 16 18:36
Sosumi	not that I was ever too much of a "gamer"	Jan 16 18:37
iophk	MBAs == money Tribbles	Jan 16 19:23
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fewt	everyone should play gorillas.bas	Jan 16 19:51
fewt	I mean, hi!	Jan 16 19:51
fewt	hmm does gorillas.bas classify as FOSS?	Jan 16 19:52
iophk	what does the head of the source say?	Jan 16 19:52
fewt	guess not	Jan 16 19:52
fewt	ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/windows/msdos/RESKIT/SUPPDISK/GORILLA.BAS	Jan 16 19:52
fewt	no public domain, foss, or even right to use defined.	Jan 16 19:53
iophk	close:	Jan 16 19:54
iophk	http://www.lysator.liu.se/eamon/	Jan 16 19:54
iophk	"Non-commercial distribution welcomed"	Jan 16 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.lysator.liu.se \| The Unofficial Home Page of Eamon Games	Jan 16 19:54
fewt	<3	Jan 16 19:54
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Sosumi	http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=604	Jan 16 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.stevequayle.com \| Wells fargo now charging for deposits! [ http://ur1.ca/gfr6w ]	Jan 16 20:46
Sosumi	yeah, it is true	Jan 16 20:47
Sosumi	here in PT they want to do exactly the same	Jan 16 20:47
Sosumi	although with much backlash from the public	Jan 16 20:48
Sosumi	so they kind of put it on hold for now	Jan 16 20:48
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Sosumi	you pay for letting a bank borrow your money	Jan 16 20:49
MinceR	what a great business	Jan 16 20:49
Sosumi	and trow it around without giving you a decent percentage	Jan 16 20:49
Sosumi	also, cyprus	Jan 16 20:50
Sosumi	keep your money in the bank they said	Jan 16 20:50
Sosumi	it'll be safe, they said	Jan 16 20:50
Sosumi	until "bail in" came in	Jan 16 20:50
Sosumi	ho! and lets not forget the confiscation of pension funds in poland and in here	Jan 16 20:51
Sosumi	just hide your valuables somewhere safe, like in a hole in the middle of nowhere	Jan 16 20:52
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Sosumi	and hey, don't forget to not bring your cell phone with you nor use a car with build in gps	Jan 16 21:22
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Sosumi	gn	Jan 16 22:30
MinceR	gn	Jan 16 23:17
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Viper550	the Wikimedia Commons community is proposing to endorse and allow the patent encumbered MP4 as a video format	Jan 16 23:59
Viper550	https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/MP4_Video	Jan 17 00:00
TechrightsBot-tr	commons.wikimedia.org \| Commons:Requests for comment/MP4 Video - Wikimedia Commons [ http://ur1.ca/gfqqw ]	Jan 17 00:00
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423994902507425793 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423995368389750784	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: I can no longer use or recommend #startpage and #iquick - expanded from .NL to NYC (NYPD/FBI/NSA), uses MSFT for images, does #google ads	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The only #privacy preserving search engine (which did not sell out) was #scroogle - like #lavabit it shut down rather than sell out.	Jan 17 01:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423997796249636864	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: It's easy to assume that #iquick lost its commitment to #privacy now, just like #DDG (Amazon)."google is everywhere" https://t.co/TeIBG40k1A	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Epiphany-Web-Browser-Now-Uses-HTTPS-for-Google-Searches-by-Default-416947.shtml why use Google at all?	Jan 17 01:59
schestowitz__	> https://twitter.com/RightToBeForgot/status/423996248677687296	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@RightToBeForgot: @schestowitz I've been trying out https://t.co/KtYT2eGz9s which is pretty good so far. no images though	Jan 17 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> metager.de \| MetaGer - die MetaSuche über deutschsprachige Suchmaschinen	Jan 17 01:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423998446388137984	Jan 17 02:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Charging for deposits! http://t.co/3quH6TVYk9 those poor banks. Not selling enough mortgages and bogus insurance? Too many bonuses?	Jan 17 02:04
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423999346854862848	Jan 17 02:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: When a friend of yours -- or even a business -- wishes to borrow your money (to lend out to others at 10% APR) would you PAY him/her/it?	Jan 17 02:06
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/424001585141014529	Jan 17 02:17
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Private gang, like domestic army https://t.co/gkt1Z35bYP	Jan 17 02:17
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.commondreams.org \| All Of Us Need To Be Very Afraid Now: "Peace Officers" Who Beat Homeless Mentally Ill Man To Death Somehow Found Not Guilty \| Common Dreams	Jan 17 02:17
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/424003621714665472	Jan 17 02:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "manager lied about Thomas breaking into cars when calling the police to get them to respond more quickly." https://t.co/FZ155TG3z8	Jan 17 02:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> en.wikipedia.org \| Death of Kelly Thomas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	Jan 17 02:22
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DaemonFC	shared a link via Lifehacker.	Jan 17 05:32
DaemonFC	28 seconds ago	Jan 17 05:32
DaemonFC	http://lifehac.kr/rilBbTL	Jan 17 05:32
TechrightsBot-tr	lifehacker.com \| Make 20 Meals to Feed a Family of Four for $150 and One Trip to Costco	Jan 17 05:32
DaemonFC	For anyone with a CostCo nearby, an excellent plan to create an affordable monthly grocery bill. 20 good meals for $150. Basically unheard of these days. Grocery prices are up about 30% since 2008, because of Wall Street speculators, global climate change, and overpopulation.	Jan 17 05:32
DaemonFC	I'm doing my part. I have personally reduced the 2050 population by 3-5 people.	Jan 17 05:33
DaemonFC	shared a link via Gawker.	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	4 minutes ago	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	http://gaw.kr/T8DuR4d	Jan 17 05:34
TechrightsBot-tr	gawker.com \| Drunk Driver Busted After Pet Parrot Squawks to Police	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	I'd have to pull a Captain Jack Sparrow. Point a gun at the bird and say "What did the bird say?". :)	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	shared Human Rights Campaign's photo.	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	5 minutes ago · Edited	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	The Human Rights Campaign listened when I commented "Better Sooner than later." and made this image.	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	(Oklahoma is the "Sooner" state, for those that didn't get it.)	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/p526x296/1009868_10152179044628281_1529538792_n.jpg	Jan 17 05:34
DaemonFC	about an hour ago · Edited	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	Someone brought up the fact that Solyndra failed and cost taxpayers a few million dollars.	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	When the BP oil rig exploded in 2010, because they were being regulated by oil company lobbyists that had taken over the Mineral Management Agency under the Bush Administration (in between office parties with hookers and cocaine), the government spent most of the cost of cleaning up the mess, because of a law that the Republicans passed in the 80s that capped the oil company's liability at a very low amount.	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	Why are we paying $4 a gallon for gas and well over $100 per barrel of oil to a foreign company that makes hundreds of billions of dollars per year, and then having the government make us pay $40 billion to clean up their exploded oil rig as well?	Jan 17 05:35
DaemonFC	shared a link via Android and Me.	Jan 17 05:36
DaemonFC	2 hours ago	Jan 17 05:36
DaemonFC	http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/lg-g-flex-headed-to-sprint-for-300-on-january-31-preorder-yours-today/	Jan 17 05:36
TechrightsBot-tr	androidandme.com \| LG G Flex headed to Sprint for $300 on January 31; preorder yours today \| Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gftub ]	Jan 17 05:36
DaemonFC	I don't understand why these curved glass phones are so popular. This one is just the LG G2 with curved glass. I got my G2 for $50 on contract, and these curved glass phones are $300 with contract? Yikes!	Jan 17 05:36
DaemonFC	The G2 is an excellent phone as-is. It's fast enough to play games that were on the XBOX 360 at a stable frame rate of 60 fps, with vsync, triple buffering, and pretty much all of the graphical detail intact. I hooked my G2 up to the TV and played Need For Speed: Most Wanted today. I couldn't tell the difference between the XBOX 360 version and my phone. That should tell you that Moore's Law is alive and well.	Jan 17 05:36
DaemonFC	The Snapdragon 800 CPU and Adreno 330 graphics processor are some real beasts.	Jan 17 05:36
DaemonFC	shared a link via Truthout.	Jan 17 05:37
DaemonFC	2 hours ago	Jan 17 05:37
DaemonFC	Every state should pass this bill. No cooperation with the NSA, and cut off their electricity too.	Jan 17 05:37
DaemonFC	http://truth-out.org/news/item/21253-washington-state-bill-proposes-criminalizing-help-to-nsa-turning-off-resources-to-yakima-facility	Jan 17 05:37
TechrightsBot-tr	truth-out.org \| Washington State Bill Proposes Criminalizing Help to NSA, Turning Off Resources to Yakima Facility [ http://ur1.ca/gftuf ]	Jan 17 05:37
Viper550	the G2's UI looks awful	Jan 17 05:37
DaemonFC	It's not bad. It can be changed easily to look any way you want it to.	Jan 17 05:42
DaemonFC	Android allows you to replace the launcher and lock screen with third party apps.	Jan 17 05:42
Viper550	DaemonFC, but nothing changes the fact they're knowingly using a deprecated UI element (the menu button)	Jan 17 05:48
Viper550	and that they managed to not include all the Roboto font variants, breaking rendering in certain apps	Jan 17 05:48
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Sosumi	http://slated.org/opposing_copyright	Jan 17 07:12
TechrightsBot-tr	slated.org \| Opposing Copyright \| Slated	Jan 17 07:12
iophk	http://falkvinge.net/	Jan 17 07:13
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 522 @ http://falkvinge.net/ )	Jan 17 07:13
iophk	that site has been down for days	Jan 17 07:13
Sosumi	rick falkvinge's site is down?	Jan 17 07:14
iophk	It appears so.	Jan 17 07:14
iophk	the reverse proxy is not getting through to it	Jan 17 07:15
iophk	and producing an error message	Jan 17 07:15
Sosumi	yeah, I see	Jan 17 07:15
Sosumi	any word from him?	Jan 17 07:15
iophk	I haven't e-mailed him.	Jan 17 07:16
Sosumi	nothing on his twitter?	Jan 17 07:16
Sosumi	last message from him on g+ was posted on january the 15th	Jan 17 07:18
Sosumi	but there's nothing about the server being down	Jan 17 07:19
Sosumi	probably just something that blew up	Jan 17 07:23
Sosumi	and it'll be back in no time :)	Jan 17 07:23
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3527359	Jan 17 08:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/hyperv-back-doors/	Jan 17 08:04
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gftlo ]	Jan 17 08:04
schestowitz__	"I wouldn't consider it based on the principle of the matter. As soon as you involve #Microsoft you are asking for a choke hold."	Jan 17 08:04
iophk	sosumi: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/ftc-says-apple-will-pay-at-least-325-million-over-in-app-purchases/2014/01/15/7c2ebc54-7e13-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html	Jan 17 08:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| FTC says Apple will pay at least $32.5 million over in-app purchases - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/gfum7 ]	Jan 17 08:06
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 17 09:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Six free open source CD and or DVD authoring	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	tools for Linux http://t.co/8ljgxTCSTu	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0r	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mentor adds Linux and multicore options for	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	in-car media http://t.co/SsrLyWvN5k	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0s	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora and CentOS Updates, Linux for Security,	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Six free open source CD and or DVD authoring tools for Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	and Top Seven http://t.co/8daXBBDKkw	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0t	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mentor adds Linux and multicore options for in-car media \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora and CentOS Updates, Linux for Security, and Top Seven \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam OS has that killer app that Ubuntu	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	doesn’t http://t.co/NyeGvTAjh4	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0u	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Steam OS has that killer app that Ubuntu doesn’t \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.12.8 Is Now Available for	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	Download http://t.co/1gvmgpumKC	Jan 17 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0v	Jan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.12.8 Is Now Available for Download \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 09:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lastwheel/status/424113434091745280	Jan 17 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@lastwheel: This is why you should refuse to use a car. This is why a cycle: https://t.co/PjNacILjIa RT @schestowitz	Jan 17 09:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3528114	Jan 17 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### How do you recognize the NSA #headquarter?	Jan 17 09:41
DaemonFC	http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/10/why-does-windows-have-terrible-battery-life.html	Jan 17 09:45
DaemonFC	LOL	Jan 17 09:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.codinghorror.com \| Coding Horror: Why Does Windows Have Terrible Battery Life? [ http://ur1.ca/gfv82 ]	Jan 17 09:45
DaemonFC	Windows RT gets worse battery life than the desktop OS X	Jan 17 09:46
schestowitz	link?	Jan 17 10:04
schestowitz	iophk: rich's site is back online	Jan 17 10:14
iophk	yes, just reading it now	Jan 17 10:14
iophk	he has used a 4G modem or something	Jan 17 10:14
iophk	his main link is down	Jan 17 10:14
iophk	and the ISP is backtalking him	Jan 17 10:14
iophk	"2 to 5 business days ..."	Jan 17 10:14
iophk	I still wonder if Sweden has the necessary infrastructure any more (water, electricity, phone, internet, etc)	Jan 17 10:15
iophk	When it's back up again there will probably be some interesting posts reflecting on connectivity.	Jan 17 10:18
iophk	caves of steel - http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129524.100-vertical-farms-sprouting-all-over-the-world.html	Jan 17 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.newscientist.com \| Vertical farms sprouting all over the world - tech - 16 January 2014 - New Scientist [ http://ur1.ca/gfvlj ]	Jan 17 10:53
iophk	http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-lazarus-20140117,0,1949780.column	Jan 17 10:53
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.latimes.com \| Keep the Internet free and open - latimes.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfvll ]	Jan 17 10:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424130346691485697 https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424130739274149888	Jan 17 10:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz I think the public has already figured out what they are, the curtain is gone	Jan 17 10:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz kind of like a demented and dangerous Santa Clause with drones...	Jan 17 10:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424131081923620865	Jan 17 10:56
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz and dont forget backend collections from various web services. Lots of people use their common passwords for all things...	Jan 17 10:56
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/wikimedia-considers-supporting-h-264-to-boost-accessibility-content/	Jan 17 11:00
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Wikimedia considers supporting H.264 to boost accessibility, content \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfvmb ]	Jan 17 11:00
MinceR	:(	Jan 17 11:02
iophk	long-term it would reduce accessibility...	Jan 17 11:02
DaemonFC	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/chromium-npapi-flash-dropped-april-2014	Jan 17 11:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Use Chromium on Linux? Adobe Flash Will Stop Working From April \| OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/gfvn0 ]	Jan 17 11:07
DaemonFC	Google is dropping NPAPI support, like Microsoft did in IE 5	Jan 17 11:08
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iophk	old - http://www.techrepublic.com/article/go-daddy-ditches-open-source-os-then-donates-10k-to-open-source-project/	Jan 17 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.techrepublic.com \| Go Daddy ditches open source OS then donates $10k to open source project - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/gfvq5 ]	Jan 17 11:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424137185038594049	Jan 17 11:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: https://t.co/ttlYG4jaD2 to get them conditioned to accept spying and no rights, you have to get them young @schestowitz	Jan 17 11:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### <a href="http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/2014/2014_01_17-bcbe_laptop_policies/">Troubling User Agreement for Grade School</a>	Jan 17 11:29
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by willhill@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e4f73dbb489a8015f0ba.jpg	Jan 17 11:29
DaemonFC	http://blog.chromium.org/2013/09/saying-goodbye-to-our-old-friend-npapi.html	Jan 17 11:36
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.chromium.org \| Chromium Blog: Saying Goodbye to Our Old Friend NPAPI [ http://ur1.ca/gfvrm ]	Jan 17 11:36
iophk	"Reports this week have suggested talks on a "no spying" deal, launched after revelations last year that the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) had monitored Merkel's mobile phone, are near collapse because Washington refuses to rule out eavesdropping on one of its closest post-war allies."	Jan 17 11:48
iophk	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/16/us-germany-usa-spying-idUSBREA0F0TX20140116	Jan 17 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.reuters.com \| Spying plunges U.S.-German ties lower than Iraq war: Merkel ally \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gfvuv ]	Jan 17 11:48
Sosumi	iophk, I knew that already	Jan 17 12:08
Sosumi	and in app purchases and dlc are both scams	Jan 17 12:08
iophk	Does it apply to other companies selling in-app purchases?	Jan 17 12:08
iophk	They seem to exploit stupid people and young kids.	Jan 17 12:09
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 17 12:09
Sosumi	but one thing is certain	Jan 17 12:09
Sosumi	m$ introduced dlc	Jan 17 12:09
Sosumi	and crapple, in app purchases	Jan 17 12:09
schestowitz	murdoch's press keeps citing "terror" http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304419104579325101634360172?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304419104579325101634360172.html	Jan 17 12:10
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Obama Wrestles With Final Details of Overhaul Plan for NSA - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfvyf ]	Jan 17 12:10
iophk	weak on details _ http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/17/us-usa-security-obama-idUSBREA0G0JI20140117	Jan 17 12:20
iophk	it seems that the data (metadata) is still collected, they are just arguing about who stores it	Jan 17 12:21
TechrightsBot-tr	www.reuters.com \| Exclusive: Obama to announce overhaul to controversial NSA program \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gfvzy ]	Jan 17 12:21
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DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2F3ZWEEbF4	Jan 17 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Rage Quit - Surgeon Simulator 2013 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfw3m ]	Jan 17 12:36
schestowitz	iophk: yeah	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	rubber-stamping the practice	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	and making up a bogus controversy	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	that of corporations	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	who stores it...	Jan 17 12:40
iophk	also dodging the main question	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	It's about corporations getting upset, not people getting upset	Jan 17 12:40
schestowitz	iophk: legality	Jan 17 12:40
iophk	other countries have outsourced their activities, in some cases to avoid legal obligations with data and such	Jan 17 12:41
iophk	government data has to be archived, private company data can be deleted off hand	Jan 17 12:41
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 17 12:42
iophk	the previous US administration did something like that with their e-mail to avoid retention	Jan 17 12:44
iophk	and all e-mail-using administrations prior to that had tried to get their mail deleted anyway	Jan 17 12:45
DaemonFC	http://news.msn.com/science-technology/apple-to-refund-dollar325m-in-app-case-government	Jan 17 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr	news.msn.com \| Apple to refund $32.5M in app case: Government [ http://ur1.ca/gfw5j ]	Jan 17 12:46
iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601979.html	Jan 17 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| GOP Groups Told to Keep Bush Officials' E-Mails [ http://ur1.ca/gfw5k ]	Jan 17 12:46
iophk	M$ also apparently uses short retention policies combined with bureaucratic misdirection to prevent access to old mails. Cringley wrote a bit about that.	Jan 17 12:47
schestowitz	iophk: MSN 'news'	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	is that reliable	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	and the second a CIA stronghold, Washington Outpost	Jan 17 12:54
iophk	probably not	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	Bezos/Amazon by Post	Jan 17 12:54
iophk	I'd go with other sources	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 17 12:54
schestowitz	I have one about the FTC	Jan 17 12:55
schestowitz	Not shocking that MS would promote it	Jan 17 12:55
schestowitz	They're still rivals in this area	Jan 17 12:55
schestowitz	I'd look like a mug linking to that	Jan 17 12:55
iophk	In-app purchases are kind of unscrupulous by nature.	Jan 17 12:56
DaemonFC	https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!msg/chromium-dev/J72Iv9wtTzw/32Itws6ITRkJ	Jan 17 12:57
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TechrightsBot-tr	groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/gfw76 ]	Jan 17 12:57
iophk	The in-app purchase decisions is covered by a lot of sites.	Jan 17 12:57
iophk	http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/mobile-applications/apple-settles-ftc-in-app-purchasing-complaint/d/d-id/1113454	Jan 17 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.informationweek.com \| Apple Settles FTC In-App Purchasing Complaint - InformationWeek [ http://ur1.ca/gfw77 ]	Jan 17 12:57
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schestowitz	cheers, added	Jan 17 13:04
schestowitz	article soon... MS, then APple, than RHT	Jan 17 13:08
schestowitz	I just cancelled lunch with a friend, so can probably write a dozen posts at most before I start work (5:30)	Jan 17 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Stallman Explains That People Should Say	Jan 17 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux for Freedom and Equal Mention	Jan 17 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cgDQNwPgGE	Jan 17 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfw8d	Jan 17 13:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Stallman Explains That People Should Say GNU/Linux for Freedom and Equal Mention \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 13:09
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DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/chromes-windows-8-chrome-os-lookalike-gets-a-stable-release/	Jan 17 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Chrome’s Windows 8 Chrome OS-lookalike gets a stable release \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfwke ]	Jan 17 14:21
DaemonFC	That's kind of neat.	Jan 17 14:21
MinceR	except for the part where you're running winblows :>	Jan 17 14:22
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/red-hat-and-centos-become-voltron-build-free-operating-system-together/	Jan 17 14:25
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Red Hat and CentOS become Voltron, build free operating system together \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gdcqm ]	Jan 17 14:25
DaemonFC	""In retaliation, Red Hat started shipping Linux kernel source code in a big tarball with the patches already applied, making it more difficult to build Linux distributions from the RHEL source,""	Jan 17 14:25
DaemonFC	Not more difficult if you just want to build it.	Jan 17 14:25
DaemonFC	More difficult to figure out what's in it.	Jan 17 14:25
MinceR	and why would anyone ever want to figure out anyway?	Jan 17 14:26
MinceR	it's not like they want control over what runs on their computer	Jan 17 14:26
MinceR	right? :>	Jan 17 14:26
DaemonFC	http://billmccloskey.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/multiprocess-firefox/	Jan 17 14:31
TechrightsBot-tr	billmccloskey.wordpress.com \| Multiprocess Firefox \| Bill McCloskey's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gfwme ]	Jan 17 14:31
DaemonFC	missed that entirely	Jan 17 14:31
MinceR	are they still doing it or what?	Jan 17 14:32
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 17 14:34
DaemonFC	It's in nightly	Jan 17 14:34
MinceR	ic	Jan 17 14:36
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Havokmon/status/424193402842779648 https://twitter.com/REALMattRichie/status/424194109113262080\	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@Havokmon: @schestowitz http://t.co/6TqjjhImCp #lavabit shutdown because govt wouldn't pay $2k for realtime wiretap on data already proivded manually.	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@REALMattRichie: Stallman's emphasis on using GNU when referring to GNU/Linux and discussion on #freedom http://t.co/A13WHPL4PX \| via @schestowitz	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> bytesmedia.co.uk \| Bytes Media - Stallman Explains That People Should Say GNU/Linux for Freedom and Equal Mention	Jan 17 15:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Havokmon/status/424195595427794946	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@Havokmon: @schestowitz whoop. Wrong link - this explains it all: http://t.co/XPZPlDETHA	Jan 17 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> havokmon.blogspot.com \| Havokmon: Lavabit - There's a sucker born every minute	Jan 17 15:06
schestowitz	Either way, he defended his users	Jan 17 15:07
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Havokmon/status/424202881265176578	Jan 17 15:38
TechrightsBot-tr	@Havokmon: @schestowitz Defended his users? He CAUSED the problem with the $2k demand. An encryption dev who can't automate a process? Really?	Jan 17 15:38
fewt	wat ap	Jan 17 15:47
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schestowitz	MinceR: DaemonFC http://techrights.org/2014/01/17/rhel-security/	Jan 17 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| For Real Security, Use CentOS — Never RHEL — and Run Neither on Amazon’s Servers \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfx2n ]	Jan 17 15:53
schestowitz	[14:25] <DaemonFC> More difficult to figure out what's in it.	Jan 17 15:53
schestowitz	[14:25] <MinceR> and why would anyone ever want to figure out anyway?	Jan 17 15:53
schestowitz	[14:25] <MinceR> it's not like they want control over what runs on their computer	Jan 17 15:54
schestowitz	That's the problem	Jan 17 15:54
schestowitz	Now Red Hat can have more control over what's going into CentOS, and I don't view that as a positive TBH; OTOH, they can keep CentOS afloat.	Jan 17 15:54
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ConsensusBureau/status/424212373176463361	Jan 17 16:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@ConsensusBureau: @schestowitz Have you seen this Snowden song? Want to help it go viral with a quick RT? Thanks!! http://t.co/Qo7fTP4zyv	Jan 17 16:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| "Groovy Snowden" by The Consensus Bureau - YouTube	Jan 17 16:14
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Sosumi	http://enenews.com/japan-tv-it-gets-worse-every-minute-at-fukushima-plant-groundwater-mixing-with-melted-fuel-gundersen-theres-no-end-in-sight-because-the-nuclear-core-is-in-contact-with-groundwater-video	Jan 17 16:31
TechrightsBot-tr	enenews.com \| Japan TV: It gets worse every minute at Fukushima plant, groundwater mixing with melted fuel — Gundersen: There’s no end in sight because the nuclear core is in contact with groundwater (VIDEO) [ http://ur1.ca/gfx9h ]	Jan 17 16:31
Sosumi	captain obvious	Jan 17 16:31
Sosumi	the fairewinds associates guy has been telling that since almost forever	Jan 17 16:31
DaemonFC	I don't think Red Hat is doing anything wrong here.	Jan 17 16:35
DaemonFC	I don't know why you'd distrust their binaries and trust the ones someone else gave you.	Jan 17 16:35
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schestowitz	Here's the DC definition of "reform" http://pic.twitter.com/qjp7WHcUyU	Jan 17 17:16
TechrightsBot-tr	pic.twitter.com \| NO TITLE	Jan 17 17:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GrahamTempleton/status/424227209457315840	Jan 17 17:20
TechrightsBot-tr	@GrahamTempleton: @schestowitz I hate the NSA as much as anyone, but really? Another Taliban because of a speech?	Jan 17 17:20
schestowitz	No, the reluctance to do anything about spies running a nation rather than Congress	Jan 17 17:20
schestowitz	http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/03/03/obama-speechwriter-jon-favreau-leaves-west-wing-for-screenwriting/Evt7Rtg5ax9dwbnVjFfOgJ/story.html	Jan 17 17:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bostonglobe.com \| Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau leaves West Wing for screenwriting - Politics - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/gfxng ]	Jan 17 17:24
DaemonFC	I just bought the new humble bundle.	Jan 17 17:54
DaemonFC	I hate Paypal, but I use them because the Humble Bundle says their fees are the lowest.	Jan 17 17:54
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iophk	speaking of infrastructure earlier...	Jan 17 18:14
iophk	no apparent date, but probably from 2013 : https://medium.com/matter/406a9f0d4166/	Jan 17 18:14
iophk	"In Massachusetts alone, over 140 million cubic metres of gas was lost every year. Nationwide, the figure was over 8 billion cubic metres"	Jan 17 18:14
TechrightsBot-tr	medium.com \| The environmental scandal that’s happening right beneath your feet — Matter — Medium	Jan 17 18:14
iophk	maybe not 2013	Jan 17 18:19
MinceR	schestowitz: allegedly Scientific Linux is better anyway	Jan 17 18:37
MinceR	and i prefer #! and Debian over either anyway	Jan 17 18:37
iophk	Debian is the way to go on servers.	Jan 17 18:39
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iophk	"F.B.I. investigators examined all of Ms. Kelley’s emails as a routine step"	Jan 17 19:58
iophk	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/06/us/from-petraeus-scandal-an-apostle-for-privacy.html	Jan 17 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr	myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gfyh1 ]	Jan 17 19:58
schestowitz__	iophk: debian the" standard" OS where I work	Jan 17 20:01
iophk	nice	Jan 17 20:01
schestowitz__	but some clients use other OSes (not internal though)	Jan 17 20:01
schestowitz__	so must know all kinds, mostly rhel clones and debian/ubuntu	Jan 17 20:01
iophk	it's got about a 3-year support cycle	Jan 17 20:01
iophk	which is not long but not short either	Jan 17 20:01
schestowitz__	have internal debian mirrors, too	Jan 17 20:02
schestowitz__	wasn't debian 5 years?	Jan 17 20:02
iophk	internal mirrors greatly speed up	Jan 17 20:02
schestowitz__	3 years for releases?	Jan 17 20:02
iophk	last I checked it was about 3 years...	Jan 17 20:02
schestowitz__	!google debian 6 year support	Jan 17 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - DebianReleases - Debian Wiki \| https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases	Jan 17 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Squeeze - Debian Wiki \| https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze/	Jan 17 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Debian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian	Jan 17 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Debian User Forums • View topic - [SOLVED] Debian life time \| http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D20%26t%3D77711	Jan 17 20:02
schestowitz__	typo	Jan 17 20:03
schestowitz__	woody at 1442 days	Jan 17 20:03
iophk	see "Total lifetime"	Jan 17 20:03
iophk	https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases	Jan 17 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr	wiki.debian.org \| DebianReleases - Debian Wiki	Jan 17 20:03
iophk	yes its about 1000 days for the rest	Jan 17 20:03
schestowitz__	yeah, so it's no better than ubuntu lts	Jan 17 20:06
MinceR	except that it is	Jan 17 20:07
iophk	ubuntu LTS is 5 years now, even for desktops	Jan 17 20:07
iophk	I'd still stay with Debian for the servers however	Jan 17 20:08
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iophk	http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/tech/web/response-obama-nsa-speech/	Jan 17 20:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.cnn.com \| Anti-NSA activists don't like Obama speech - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfyko ]	Jan 17 20:20
iophk	"activists"	Jan 17 20:21
MinceR	apparently that's a dirty word now	Jan 17 20:21
iophk	They're also not necessarily "anti-" NSA either. The objections have been to specific actions.	Jan 17 20:30
iophk	I would have said it was a bait title but the summary includes the terms, too.	Jan 17 20:33
Sosumi	activist rhymes with terrorist	Jan 17 20:35
iophk	as far as law enforcement in the US goes, I gather they are treated similarly.	Jan 17 20:35
Sosumi	so, "dirty word" indeed	Jan 17 20:35
Sosumi	:(	Jan 17 20:35
iophk	!low-grade terrorism	Jan 17 20:36
iophk	!google low-grade terorrism	Jan 17 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - "Low Grade Racial Terrorism” in Oregon --Words Have No Meaning ... \| http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t965984/	Jan 17 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Iran Plots a Low-Grade Nuclear Attack Which Israel ... - DEBKAfile \| http://www.debka.com/article/21947/Iran-Plots-a-Low-Grade-Nuclear-Attack-Which-Israel-Must-Forestall	Jan 17 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Volgograd bombings: Russia mustn't give in to this low-grade terror ... \| http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/30/russia-low-grade-terror-separatists	Jan 17 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Freakonomics » Terrorism, Part II \| http://freakonomics.com/2007/08/09/terrorism-part-ii/	Jan 17 20:36
iophk	hmm different results there	Jan 17 20:36
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 17 20:36
Sosumi	!google abdelhakim belhadj volgograd	Jan 17 20:38
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Global Jihad - WHO IS ABDELHAKIM BELHAJ? \| http://www.globaljihad.net/view_page.asp%3Fid%3D2136	Jan 17 20:38
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Jack Straw sued over illegal rendition of Abdel Hakim Belhadj ... \| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9210758/Jack-Straw-sued-over-illegal-rendition-of-Abdel-Hakim-Belhadj.html	Jan 17 20:38
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Libyan commander Abdelhakim Belhadj withdraws cooperation from ... \| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8999176/Libyan-commander-Abdelhakim-Belhadj-withdraws-cooperation-from-Britain-torture-inquiry.html	Jan 17 20:38
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Libyan rebel leader Abdulhakim Belhadj sues British Government ... \| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8966794/Libyan-rebel-leader-Abdulhakim-Belhadj-sues-British-Government-over-rendition.html	Jan 17 20:38
Sosumi	nothing interesting	Jan 17 20:39
iophk	seems to have fallen out of Google lately then	Jan 17 20:39
Sosumi	and that is kind of putting lipstick on the pig	Jan 17 20:40
Sosumi	that dude was behind the spain train bombings	Jan 17 20:40
Sosumi	back in 2004	Jan 17 20:40
Sosumi	years later he is glorified as the honorable "rebel" commander fighting the gadhafi	Jan 17 20:41
Sosumi	government in libya	Jan 17 20:41
Sosumi	not gadhafi was good, but Belhadj	Jan 17 20:41
Sosumi	pff	Jan 17 20:41
Sosumi	the butcher of madrid	Jan 17 20:42
Sosumi	!google abdelhakim belhadj butcher of madrid	Jan 17 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Abdelhakim Belhadj - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelhakim_Belhadj	Jan 17 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Was the Gaza Flotilla Massacre a Turkish-Israeli False Flag and ... \| http://empirestrikesblack.com/2012/02/was-the-gaza-flotilla-massacre-a-turkish-israeli-false-flag-and-precursor-to-the-war-on-syria/	Jan 17 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Libya and the Infamy of Freedom and Democracy \| LIBYA AGAINST ... \| http://libyaagainstsuperpowermedia.org/libya-the-whole-truth-about-libya-and-the-facts-of-what-really-took-place-from-the-beginning-of-february-2011-till-today/libya-and-the-infamy-of-freedom-and-democracy/	Jan 17 20:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Middle East Master Plan toward War and Fascism \| nsnbc international \| http://nsnbc.me/2012/07/13/middle-east-master-plan-towards-war-and-fascism-2/	Jan 17 20:42
Sosumi	all crap	Jan 17 20:42
iophk	"If the FCC actually wants to ensure net neutrality, it will have do something that every regulator in every other developed country did a long time ago. (It will also turn Verizon litigiously apoplectic.) It has to unmake the mistake it made in 2002, when it failed to classify cable Internet providers as telecommunications services. Doing so will solve everything. "	Jan 17 20:43
iophk	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-17/solving-the-net-neutrality-problem-is-actually-very-very-simple	Jan 17 20:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.businessweek.com \| Solving the Net Neutrality Problem Is Actually Very Simple - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/gfyo1 ]	Jan 17 20:43
Sosumi	http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/the-evidence-of-al-qaidas-role-in-the-2004-madrid-attack	Jan 17 20:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ctc.usma.edu \| The Evidence of Al-Qa`ida’s Role in the 2004 Madrid Attack \| Combating Terrorism Center at West Point [ http://ur1.ca/gfyoe ]	Jan 17 20:44
Sosumi	but volgograd was sponsored by one of US's favorite regimes	Jan 17 20:47
Sosumi	the KSA	Jan 17 20:47
Sosumi	and kind of seems like having Bandar Bin Sultan's fingerprints all over it	Jan 17 20:47
Sosumi	aka Bandar Bush :)	Jan 17 20:48
Sosumi	I guess that has become another household name	Jan 17 20:48
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sebsebseb	jono: ping	Jan 17 20:58
sebsebseb	jono: I think you can help me get some Ubuntu stuff for an event possibly	Jan 17 20:58
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DaemonFC	Firefox will be the default web browser on Kubuntu 14.04	Jan 17 22:37
sebsebseb	DaemonFC will be a Microsoft employee	Jan 17 22:43
MinceR	the revolution will not be televised	Jan 17 22:44
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Sosumi	and crapple and micro$oft will merge	Jan 17 23:57
Sosumi	giving rise to crapple$oft	Jan 17 23:57
MinceR	that will not necessarily be visible	Jan 17 23:57
MinceR	they might prefer to keep the current false dichotomy	Jan 17 23:58
Sosumi	^^	Jan 17 23:58
Sosumi	gn	Jan 17 23:58
MinceR	o/	Jan 17 23:59
Sosumi	?	Jan 18 00:04
Sosumi	just now	Jan 18 00:05
MinceR	it's ascii art of a man waving (head and arm)	Jan 18 00:05
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/malware-vendors-buy-chrome-extensions-to-send-adware-filled-updates/	Jan 18 00:05
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Adware vendors buy Chrome Extensions to send ad- and malware-filled updates \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gg028 ]	Jan 18 00:05
Sosumi	lol :)	Jan 18 00:05
Sosumi	I guess that'd also work out with firefox	Jan 18 00:06
MinceR	when will people realize that pushing "updates" without asking is unacceptable?	Jan 18 00:06
Sosumi	and safari	Jan 18 00:06
Sosumi	the common user? never	Jan 18 00:06
Sosumi	duno if IE accepts extensions	Jan 18 00:07
MinceR	of course it does	Jan 18 00:07
MinceR	toolbars, primarily	Jan 18 00:07
Sosumi	ho, those	Jan 18 00:07
Sosumi	lol	Jan 18 00:07
Sosumi	I've heard of the malignant IE toolbars	Jan 18 00:10
Sosumi	but at least I've been fortunate enough to never see them	Jan 18 00:12
MinceR	gn	Jan 18 00:28
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schestowitz__	Avoid #ixquick aka #startpage - it ceased being about #privacy (like #ddg now) https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3527347 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3527349 the company confirms	Jan 18 02:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I can no longer use or recommend #startpage and #iquick - expanded from .NL to NYC (NYPD/FBI/NSA), uses MSFT for images, does #google ads	Jan 18 02:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's easy to assume that #iquick lost its commitment to #privacy now, just like #DDG (Amazon). "google is everywhere" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520345	Jan 18 02:05
TechrightsBot-tr	Not a Diaspora post?	Jan 18 02:05
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3523012	Jan 18 02:10
TechrightsBot-tr	@anonymiss@despora.de: ### How do you recognize the NSA #headquarter?	Jan 18 02:10
schestowitz__	says she's violating the constitution, but they taught her how to close that pesky warning window	Jan 18 02:11
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MinceR	schestowitz__: so what's next? google via Tor?	Jan 18 13:45
MinceR	geekings	Jan 18 13:55
iophk	http://seekingalpha.com/news/1510211-microsoft-reportedly-paying-oems-2_6b-in-2014-to-make-windows-phones	Jan 18 15:30
TechrightsBot-tr	seekingalpha.com \| Microsoft Corporation (MSFT): Microsoft reportedly paying OEMs $2.6B in 2014 to make Windows Phones - Seeking Alpha [ http://ur1.ca/gg43h ]	Jan 18 15:30
iophk	http://seekingalpha.com/news/1512031	Jan 18 15:31
TechrightsBot-tr	seekingalpha.com \| Microsoft Corporation (MSFT): Microsoft denies WP payment report; Xbox exec departs - Seeking Alpha	Jan 18 15:31
iophk	what are the real numbers then?	Jan 18 15:31
Sosumi	so, windows mobile is so bad that M$ has to bribe OEMs	Jan 18 15:41
Sosumi	lol	Jan 18 15:42
iophk	yes, like with regular windows, too.	Jan 18 15:42
Sosumi	well, captain obvious :)	Jan 18 15:42
Sosumi	hopefully in the future OEMs will start shipping PCs with android out of the box for some limited functionality	Jan 18 15:43
MinceR	hopefully that android won't have to be virtualized on top of winblows	Jan 18 15:44
Sosumi	like downloading some flavor of gnu/linux, bsd and creating an usb stick	Jan 18 15:44
Sosumi	for install	Jan 18 15:44
MinceR	(building a castle on a swamp...)	Jan 18 15:44
Sosumi	and we'd finally get rid of the windows tax	Jan 18 15:46
Sosumi	AND, the OEMs would no longer have to deal with M$	Jan 18 15:46
Sosumi	so, both the customer and the OEM would win	Jan 18 15:47
Sosumi	specially in peace of mind	Jan 18 15:47
Sosumi	ho, I meant native android	Jan 18 15:52
Sosumi	just to give basic functionality to the machine for those reasons I mentioned	Jan 18 15:53
Sosumi	basically just to download a OS and create a bootable USB/cd	Jan 18 15:53
iophk	http://www.roguelynn.com/prism/	Jan 18 16:27
iophk	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q31as1qpkvw	Jan 18 16:27
iophk	from August	Jan 18 16:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.roguelynn.com \| PRISM-as-a-Service: Not Subject to American Law — Lynn Root	Jan 18 16:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| PRISM-AS-A-SERVICE: Not Subject to American Law - Lynn Root - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gg5q5 ]	Jan 18 16:27
iophk	http://en.rsf.org/turkey-parliament-urged-to-rejected-18-01-2014,45745.html	Jan 18 16:37
TechrightsBot-tr	en.rsf.org \| Parliament urged to rejected draconian Internet bill - Reporters Without Borders [ http://ur1.ca/gg5r7 ]	Jan 18 16:37
iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/01/18/how-policymakers-enabled-the-internet/	Jan 18 16:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| How Policymakers Enabled The Internet - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gg5se ]	Jan 18 16:43
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MinceR	http://kep.cdn.index.hu/1/0/535/5358/53584/5358486_6283c6b5519441f832b9fd6299c0c1ee_wm.jpg	Jan 18 17:52
Sosumi	still better than newer versions of vista failing to boot with secure boot enabled	Jan 18 18:48
Sosumi	and instead they enter into some repair mode and force you to shutdown	Jan 18 18:49
Sosumi	just saw that happen at an university workstation this morning	Jan 18 18:49
Sosumi	and I should also mention that it had been updated to vista 8.1 enterprise like 3 days ago	Jan 18 18:50
Sosumi	after turning it on again it just loaded winblows with no problem	Jan 18 18:51
Sosumi	also, no error report generated	Jan 18 18:51
Sosumi	or I just couldn't find it	Jan 18 18:52
Sosumi	morals of the story	Jan 18 18:57
Sosumi	M$ can't even make their stuff work well on the crap they shovel onto others	Jan 18 18:58
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Sosumi	aka secure boot	Jan 18 18:58
iophk	http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/2014-year-you-play-penguin	Jan 18 19:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcper.com \| Is 2014 the year you play with the penguin? \| PC Perspective [ http://ur1.ca/gg7xn ]	Jan 18 19:17
MinceR	newer versions probably leak that info all the same	Jan 18 19:39
MinceR	possibly without even asking	Jan 18 19:39
MinceR	though the article this was in said they sent the report anyway	Jan 18 19:39
Sosumi	http://torrentfreak.com/the-20-most-pirated-artists-of-the-year-a-drop-in-the-ocean-140116/	Jan 18 19:40
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| The 20 Most Pirated Artists of The Year: A Drop in The Ocean? \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gg835 ]	Jan 18 19:40
Sosumi	after reading the chart, some part of me died	Jan 18 19:41
Sosumi	what the hell is even a flo rida?	Jan 18 19:41
Sosumi	but ho well	Jan 18 19:42
MinceR	:>	Jan 18 19:42
Sosumi	I just finished "pirating" tchaikovski's entire discography	Jan 18 19:43
Sosumi	in flac ofc	Jan 18 19:43
Sosumi	so I guess I'll be a happy camper for the rest of the weekend	Jan 18 19:43
MinceR	:)	Jan 18 19:49
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iophk	http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/hardware/slumping-intel-to-cut-more-than-5000-jobs-in-2014/articleshow/28989318.cms	Jan 18 20:00
TechrightsBot-tr	economictimes.indiatimes.com \| Slumping Intel to cut more than 5,000 jobs in 2014 - The Economic Times [ http://ur1.ca/gg87t ]	Jan 18 20:00
schestowitz__	cool	Jan 18 20:00
schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences	Jan 18 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/4qw0f ]	Jan 18 20:02
iophk	IBM is re-investing in PowerPC ...	Jan 18 20:03
iophk	but that will be mostly servers	Jan 18 20:03
iophk	Oracle dropped the ball when it got Sparc. It could have done really well.	Jan 18 20:03
MinceR	oracle could have done many things well, and did none of it	Jan 18 20:04
iophk	True	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	!google larry ellison nsa	Jan 18 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Oracle CEO Larry Ellison: NSA surveillance is "essential" - CBS News \| http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-nsa-surveillance-is-essential/	Jan 18 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Larry Ellison: NSA Spying Is 'Essential' - Business Insider \| http://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-nsa-spying-is-essential-2013-8	Jan 18 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Oracle's Larry Ellison calls Google 'absolutely evil,' says NSA ... \| http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/13/4617690/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-cbs-this-morning-full-interview	Jan 18 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Larry Ellison, Oracle CEO: NSA Surveillance Is 'Great' - Huffington Post \| http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-nsa_n_3752312.html	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	CBS 'news'	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	Business Insider is funded by Anderrseen	Jan 18 20:04
schestowitz__	Who is STRONGLY pro-NSA	Jan 18 20:05
schestowitz__	and also slams Wikileaks et al.	Jan 18 20:05
schestowitz__	Just shows you how US press works	Jan 18 20:05
schestowitz__	[4] is AOL	Jan 18 20:05
schestowitz__	so much for Huff Puff serving the public	Jan 18 20:05
schestowitz__	like guardian.... in the UK... mere pretenders	Jan 18 20:05
schestowitz__	hijacking the voice of the people	Jan 18 20:05
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Sosumi	http://rt.com/usa/texas-police-handcuff-change-homeless-795/	Jan 18 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gg8lt ]	Jan 18 20:46
Sosumi	eugenics and neo-darwinism at best	Jan 18 20:46
Sosumi	Texas cops handcuff man after he gave change to homeless person	Jan 18 20:47
Sosumi	if he's unfit to survive, let him die	Jan 18 20:47
Sosumi	survival of the fittest, until...	Jan 18 20:47
Sosumi	you look at the system and all you see are the now "unfit" trying to hold power	Jan 18 20:48
MinceR	survival of the fittest? good bye, humans...	Jan 18 20:48
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Sosumi	you are human too, you know?	Jan 18 20:49
Sosumi	or have you already transcended your humanity and thus your mortality by uploading your consciousness into the web?	Jan 18 20:52
MinceR	and i might not live forever, either	Jan 18 20:54
Sosumi	that is why you employ redundancy	Jan 18 20:54
Sosumi	plus, even if that was actually the case, your copy would be just another life, but with your memories, free to do whatever "it" wanted	Jan 18 20:55
Sosumi	on that I oppose ray kurzweil and some other nuttjobs	Jan 18 20:56
Sosumi	and I'm more about preserving the original being rather than letting his body wither and die	Jan 18 20:57
Sosumi	and relying on a copy that is no longer the real being	Jan 18 20:57
MinceR	and how do you know that?	Jan 18 20:58
Sosumi	and if we talk just mind upload	Jan 18 20:58
Sosumi	it doesn't even have the genetic predispositions of the original	Jan 18 20:58
Sosumi	it is simple, there will be a point in which the original and copy will diverge in choices and choose different paths	Jan 18 20:59
Sosumi	even if the probability of that happening is small	Jan 18 20:59
Sosumi	specially if the copy doesn't know it is a copy	Jan 18 20:59
MinceR	so, in the many-worlds interpretation, you're not yourself?	Jan 18 21:01
Sosumi	I'm a different me in another world	Jan 18 21:01
Sosumi	in a different world I might have taken upon myself the career of a porn director	Jan 18 21:02
Sosumi	instead of a physicist/computer scientist	Jan 18 21:02
Sosumi	still student, but who cares	Jan 18 21:02
Sosumi	maybe in another world I might have been born with a different gender	Jan 18 21:04
Sosumi	still me, but a different me,	Jan 18 21:04
Sosumi	in other words, a different possibility and a being with its own experiences/memories	Jan 18 21:05
Sosumi	but maybe if you take some lsd, you'll find out	Jan 18 21:13
Sosumi	but I can guarantee that there'll be some side effects	Jan 18 21:13
Sosumi	like changing the font on your pc to helvetica neue	Jan 18 21:13
Sosumi	:P	Jan 18 21:13
MinceR	ew	Jan 18 21:14
Sosumi	there had to be some apple jokes at one point	Jan 18 21:15
Sosumi	in this case two	Jan 18 21:15
Sosumi	the porn director joke and the lsd joke	Jan 18 21:15
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DaemonFC	schestowitz: We need to keep an eye out on what happens to Product Activation after Windows XP goes EOL.	Jan 18 22:45
DaemonFC	If Microsoft stops activating re-installs of Windows XP, we should be sure to beat them over the head with that and remind users of supported versions what will happen to them later.	Jan 18 22:46
DaemonFC	XP is the first version of Windows with Product Activation that is going to go end of life. It has been about 13 years since I first wondered what would happen when XP went EOL. It took a long time for the answer because Microsoft didn't plan to support Windows XP for even half as long as they did. The Windows "Longhorn" / Vista catastrophe set them back several years, and they ended up having to extend Windows XP's lifecycle to cover all of the	Jan 18 22:50
DaemonFC	people that refused Vista. Post-Vista PC sales have been slowing down, especially lately, because many people are moving to Android phones and tablets, and many people see their existing XP machines that can't run the latest bloated versions of Windows as "good enough" to run their office software and web browser.	Jan 18 22:50
MinceR	this is relevant to my interests	Jan 18 22:51
DaemonFC	MinceR: Well, there are like millions and millions of people who might have activation difficulties after April.	Jan 18 22:52
DaemonFC	Their computers can't run anything newer from Microsoft.	Jan 18 22:52
MinceR	maybe it will be a learning experience for them	Jan 18 22:52
DaemonFC	I suspect they'll be pissed, if they understand what just happened.	Jan 18 22:52
MinceR	http://www.queerty.com/the-closet-cases-that-fan-the-flames-of-russian-homophobia-20140114/	Jan 18 23:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.queerty.com \| The Closet Cases That Fan The Flames Of Russian Homophobia / Queerty [ http://ur1.ca/gg9ho ]	Jan 18 23:06
*rysiek\|pl is now known as ood		Jan 18 23:10
Sosumi	you know, those folks still using xp and that don't want to change to something better	Jan 18 23:15
Sosumi	could always use a crack	Jan 18 23:15
Sosumi	but indeed the activation issue, if m$ pulls the plug	Jan 18 23:16
Sosumi	will be a good a bashing point	Jan 18 23:16
DaemonFC	shared a link via Lifehacker.	Jan 18 23:22
DaemonFC	5 minutes ago	Jan 18 23:23
DaemonFC	http://lifehac.kr/BtQeKZb	Jan 18 23:23
TechrightsBot-tr	lifehacker.com \| Winamp Rises From the Ashes, Will Live On Under Radionomy	Jan 18 23:23
DaemonFC	That's not good, because Winamp is proprietary software, and the world would be better off if there was no proprietary software at all.	Jan 18 23:23
DaemonFC	I used to use Winamp when I used Windows 98, which came with this awful unusable media player from Microsoft called Windows Media Player. But, that was back when Nullsoft was an independent company, before AOL took it over, and Justin Frankel was still in charge. After AOL took Winamp over, it ballooned in size because of their adware, spyware, and spam. It went from this efficient media player that was under 10 MB in size to this huge bloated	Jan 18 23:23
DaemonFC	monstrosity that was just as bad as anything Microsoft has ever written.	Jan 18 23:23
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DaemonFC	I'm making chicken sandwiches and french fries. :)	Jan 12 00:18
DaemonFC	ALDI's "southern style" chicken patties are pretty good.	Jan 12 00:18
DaemonFC	And $2 a bag cheaper than Tyson.	Jan 12 00:18
DaemonFC	I love going to ALDI, the total doesn't ring up as fast as it does at other grocery stores. :)	Jan 12 00:19
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DaemonFC	The Playstation 4 is beating the XBOX 360.	Jan 12 04:55
DaemonFC	err, XBOX One, I meant	Jan 12 04:56
DaemonFC	The latest sales data says that PS 4 has sold about 5 million units, while XBOX One has sold about 3 million.	Jan 12 04:56
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 04:59
DaemonFC	Gorilla Glass 4 is apparently going to have ionic silver in the glass to kill germs.	Jan 12 04:59
DaemonFC	My LG G2 has Gorilla Glass 3, which doesn't kill germs, but it is 40% more damage resistant than the screen on the iPhone 5S. The iPhone 5S screens shatter so often that Apple stores make even more money off of most customers, by charging them $150 to replace the glass. :)	Jan 12 04:59
DaemonFC	The LG G2 is just an awesome phone.	Jan 12 05:00
DaemonFC	Haven't found anything to complain about.	Jan 12 05:00
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iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/12/web-tool-democracy-tim-berners-lee	Jan 12 05:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Two decades on, we must preserve the internet as a tool of democracy \| Technology \| The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/ge9sk ]	Jan 12 05:52
iophk	"Close to the principle of universality is that of decentralisation, which means that no permission is needed from a central authority to post anything on the web, there is no central controlling node, and so no single point of failure,"	Jan 12 05:53
iophk	That goes against his promotion of DRM	Jan 12 05:53
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DaemonFC	It would be nice if Fedora's build of Firefox supported h264.	Jan 12 06:18
DaemonFC	I don't like Chrome and I also don't like having to download Firefox from Mozilla.	Jan 12 06:18
schestowitz	"Thieving creates jobs, apparently. Ask Microsoft. Its crimes drove many people out of work so that Gates becomes richest in the world and does a little 'trickle-down' bu hiring cheap MS staff in India."	Jan 12 06:38
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507646	Jan 12 06:38
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cross-licensing and patent pools have another name: price-fixing, cartel, collusion. But if we called them that, state would not protect it.	Jan 12 06:38
schestowitz	"The state is very much protecting those cartels. They have been confused with national interest."	Jan 12 06:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507651	Jan 12 06:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fbi shows which side it's on, and it's not the people's, it's the oligarchs' http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/09/261115874/the-fbis-comey-on-snowden-confused-by-hero-talk	Jan 12 06:39
schestowitz	"It's amazing to see people say things like Comey does. He should be removed from office for malfeasance and incompetence based on what he says in that article."	Jan 12 06:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.npr.org \| FBI Director 'Confused' By Reports Calling Snowden A Hero : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/ge1wf ]	Jan 12 06:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3509482	Jan 12 06:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Terrorist" used to mean very specific thing.These days can mean activism, journalism, regulation, software development, attending protests.	Jan 12 06:40
schestowitz	"It can also mean demolition contracting, bee-keeping, coffee-mornings, and chain-saw meets…."	Jan 12 06:40
DaemonFC	schestowitz: Three of the top five selling laptops on Amazon are running GNU/Linux (Chrome OS).	Jan 12 06:44
DaemonFC	It's been the #1 for many months now (the Samsung model) but now it's #1, #2, and #5.	Jan 12 06:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On Slow News Days... http://t.co/mvY4d4HFbp	Jan 12 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gea9k	Jan 12 07:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| On Slow News Days... \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 07:03
Sosumi	crapple in order to charge more on damaged iphones	Jan 12 07:21
Sosumi	fused the glass to the lcd panel	Jan 12 07:21
Sosumi	so, crack the glass, replace both lcd+glass	Jan 12 07:21
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schestowitz	http://www.telegeography.com/assets/website/images/maps/global-traffic-map-2010/global-traffic-map-2010-wp1600.jpeg	Jan 12 07:30
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 12 08:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Possible Features For The Linux 3.14 Kernel	Jan 12 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sQPz0PCBtD	Jan 12 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gedf8	Jan 12 09:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Possible Features For The Linux 3.14 Kernel \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 09:35
iophk	http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/62781-kid-who-found-ptv-website-flaw-deserves-a-medal	Jan 12 09:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itwire.com \| Kid who found PTV website flaw deserves a medal [ http://ur1.ca/geds9 ]	Jan 12 09:47
iophk	version n+1, again	Jan 12 09:52
iophk	http://m.winsupersite.com/windows-8/threshold-be-called-windows-9-ship-april-2015	Jan 12 09:52
TechrightsBot-tr	m.winsupersite.com \| "Threshold" to be Called Windows 9, Ship in April 2015 \| Windows 8 content from Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows [ http://ur1.ca/gedwf ]	Jan 12 09:52
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geers	Jan 12 10:33
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Kid who found PTV website flaw deserves a medal http://t.co/sc5pJivoG2 so does #snowden - and #Nobel should be revoked from #obama	Jan 12 10:33
schestowitz	. http://ur1.ca/geerk http://ur1.ca/geerg http://ur1.ca/geer9 http://ur1.ca/geer6	Jan 12 10:33
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schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geerk	Jan 12 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "we will just have vaporware, that people will stop buying 486 machines" - Nathan Myhrvold, Microsoft	Jan 12 10:37
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geerg	Jan 12 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Stewart Alsop, industry gadfly, presented Gates with the "Golden Vaporware" award" -Barbarians Led by Bill Gates (PR book)	Jan 12 10:37
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geer9 http://ur1.ca/geer6	Jan 12 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "In the face of strong competition, Evangelism's focus may shift immediately to the next version" - #Microsoft http://t.co/clpUtQdNOj	Jan 12 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Windows booster Paul Thurrott: "Windows 9, Ship in April 2015" - oh, don't we know this strategy? #microsoft #vaporware #freezeTheMarket	Jan 12 10:37
schestowitz	iophk: spotted a minute ago: http://ur1.ca/geesb	Jan 12 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #microsoft Jack says "the latest KDE and Gnome desktops consume lots of memory." He clearly hasn't tried them then. http://t.co/3kcYzrl1rR	Jan 12 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.ydr.com \| Can I upgrade my Pentium 4 PCs to a new Windows? - The York Daily Record	Jan 12 10:37
schestowitz	http://ur1.ca/geesf http://ur1.ca/geesi	Jan 12 10:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: My #debian box with latest #kde has just half gigabyte of RAM. I used KDE3 for 5 years with just half a gigabyte of RAM to complete a Ph.D.	Jan 12 10:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #microsoft Jack says that #gnu #linux had RAM consumption issues. Yes, unlike Windows. ಠ_ಠ	Jan 12 10:40
*amarsh04 ran KDE 3.5 in 384 MiB of RAM on a PII-266		Jan 12 10:41
schestowitz	I ran it on 256 MB of RAM	Jan 12 10:42
schestowitz	But to be fair, it was slow	Jan 12 10:42
schestowitz	i mostly used it to SSH to the half gig box	Jan 12 10:42
Sosumi	@schestowitz: #microsoft Jack says that #gnu #linux had RAM consumption issues. Yes, unlike Windows. ಠ_ಠ	Jan 12 10:43
amarsh04	and I'm still running that same installation of Debian GNU/Linux on a P4 with 1.5 GB of RAM, although I needed to recompile some kde libraries to keep running KDE 3.5 on current kernels	Jan 12 10:43
Sosumi	who has memory leakage issues	Jan 12 10:43
Sosumi	you missed that	Jan 12 10:43
amarsh04	Linus Torvalds explained that unused RAM was wasted, and had it doing caching when it wasn't needed as the working set for programs' code and data	Jan 12 10:45
Sosumi	yeah, that is an obvious use for free ram	Jan 12 10:46
Sosumi	but what I mentioned is ram vanishing	Jan 12 10:47
Sosumi	or just not clearing out	Jan 12 10:47
amarsh04	as in not available for actual use due to being allocated and not de-allocated?	Jan 12 10:47
Sosumi	yes	Jan 12 10:48
Sosumi	and sometimes disappearing	Jan 12 10:48
Sosumi	and that is still happening in osx	Jan 12 10:49
Sosumi	it happened sometimes with 10.8	Jan 12 10:49
Sosumi	but with 10.9 it got only worse	Jan 12 10:49
Sosumi	mostly triggered by apps working outside the cocoa framework	Jan 12 10:51
Sosumi	but windows kind of always suffered from that	Jan 12 10:51
iophk	(17.37.38) schestowitz: iophk: spotted a minute ago	Jan 12 10:55
iophk	However it is almost a milestone that he even mentions the distro and its variants	Jan 12 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Biggest Problem With GTK & What Qt Does	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	Good http://t.co/4MwRclRYOi	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geex2	Jan 12 11:11
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Biggest Problem With GTK & What Qt Does Good \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 11:13
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Sosumi	http://www.janes.com/article/32190/pak-fa-stealth-features-patent-published	Jan 12 11:21
TechrightsBot-tr	www.janes.com \| PAK FA stealth features patent published - IHS Jane's 360 [ http://ur1.ca/geeyk ]	Jan 12 11:21
Sosumi	I think they are doing it wrong	Jan 12 11:22
Sosumi	drone barges are the future	Jan 12 11:22
Sosumi	same could be said about the f35	Jan 12 11:22
Sosumi	aka the flying piano	Jan 12 11:22
Sosumi	aka the new comanche	Jan 12 11:22
Sosumi	and in actually developing such devices they could open know how and tech developed for automation of forward outposts	Jan 12 11:28
Sosumi	in order to kickstart real space colonization	Jan 12 11:28
iophk	networking	Jan 12 11:32
iophk	http://www.skeptech.org/blog/2013/01/13/unscrewed-a-story-about-openbsd/	Jan 12 11:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.skeptech.org \| Unscrewed; A story about OpenBSD \| Dave Josephsen [ http://ur1.ca/gef0i ]	Jan 12 11:32
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 12:40
DaemonFC	In Finland, you don't have to be in the army, you can do civilian public service work.	Jan 12 12:40
DaemonFC	Being in the military is not something to be proud of. I would hope that what the Bush Forces did would prove that. A lot of military recruiters simply trolled poor neighborhoods that were destroyed by right-wing economic and trade policies, looking for poor young people that really had no choice except the military or dealing drugs. It's not a choice. It's a lack of options. People should have the option of doing something that is dignified, so	Jan 12 12:40
DaemonFC	that they can live life with their head held high.	Jan 12 12:40
Sosumi	why would you be proud of playing canon fodder?	Jan 12 12:58
Sosumi	go play video games for that	Jan 12 12:58
Sosumi	so, kudos to filand	Jan 12 12:58
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 13:00
DaemonFC	For most of the history of the US, if anyone even found out you were gay, you'd be murdered by the state (if nobody else killed you first). Then when those laws were largely repealed, they changed it to life in prison. Then when that was repealed in most states (some states kept them until they were struck down in 2003), they changed it to indefinite commitment to a state "mental hospital", by the time Texas went to court, it was down to a $500	Jan 12 13:00
DaemonFC	fine. Basically the fundie way of saying "We can't do anything worse to you, but we hate you and we want to use the state to hurt you as much as we can get away with!".	Jan 12 13:00
DaemonFC	The US has a long history of persecuting gay people. And I mean real persecution, not some whinyass fundie that got her stupid book lampooned and couldn't take the criticism. The Christian Taliban used the state to do their nasty work for years. Now we're just seeing marriage discrimination laws, because it's the last hateful thing they can do to us. That will have its day in court too, and it will be thrown out.	Jan 12 13:00
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DaemonFC	http://windowsitpro.com/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/alan-mulally-formally-ends-microsoft-ceo-speculation	Jan 12 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr	windowsitpro.com \| Alan Mulally Formally Ends Microsoft CEO Speculation \| Paul Thurrotts WinInfo content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/gefj1 ]	Jan 12 13:18
DaemonFC	He did his job for them already. He got their software into Ford cars.	Jan 12 13:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EPEL 7 Development http://t.co/y5cmaDmwYh	Jan 12 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefnd	Jan 12 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 16 “Petra” Cinnamon, KDE and MATE	Jan 12 13:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| EPEL 7 Development \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	review http://t.co/KtOfCssG5X	Jan 12 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefne	Jan 12 13:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 16 “Petra” Cinnamon, KDE and MATE review \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.13-rc8 released; final most likely to	Jan 12 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	release next week http://t.co/MZewfQxMha	Jan 12 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefng	Jan 12 13:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.13-rc8 released; final most likely to release next week \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Richard Stallman talk on Free Digital Society	Jan 12 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	in Tvm on Jan 16 http://t.co/Tvo4FuQQQc	Jan 12 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefni	Jan 12 13:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Richard Stallman talk on Free Digital Society in Tvm on Jan 16 \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 13:50
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Sosumi	http://torrentfreak.com/record-label-asks-google-to-censor-artists-twitter-accounts-140112/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter	Jan 12 14:25
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Record Label Asks Google to Censor Artists’ Twitter Accounts \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/geftl ]	Jan 12 14:25
Sosumi	pffffffffff	Jan 12 14:25
Sosumi	no words to describe the amount of fail	Jan 12 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow	Jan 12 14:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RCKYmr5ft4	Jan 12 14:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gefwk	Jan 12 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow \| Tux Machines	Jan 12 14:41
Sosumi	http://blog.gsmarena.com/windows-9-may-come-out-april-of-next-year/	Jan 12 14:54
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.gsmarena.com \| Windows 9 may come out April next year - GSMArena Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gefzc ]	Jan 12 14:54
Sosumi	with metro 2.0	Jan 12 14:55
Sosumi	aka the time when windows finally gets deprecated	Jan 12 14:55
Sosumi	m$ could always force everything they do into the xbox	Jan 12 14:55
Sosumi	kind of "personal, family friendly computer" that you can use to go to facebook and show how lonely or dumb you are	Jan 12 14:56
Sosumi	kind of like the earlier consoles	Jan 12 14:57
Sosumi	like when the famicon was called a "family computer"	Jan 12 14:57
Sosumi	I wouldn't mind that,	Jan 12 14:57
iophk	http://www.salon.com/2014/01/12/the_unstoppable_rise_of_bikes/	Jan 12 14:58
Sosumi	lets up they are dumb enough for that	Jan 12 14:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.salon.com \| The unstoppable rise of bikes - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/geg0k ]	Jan 12 14:58
Sosumi	since ppl aren't buying new computers anyways	Jan 12 14:58
Sosumi	since what they've is already enough	Jan 12 14:58
Sosumi	and the ones that are buying kind of do it in the high end or are gamers	Jan 12 14:59
Sosumi	and specially gamers, build their own computers	Jan 12 14:59
Sosumi	so, placing the consoles as the computer for the rest of us	Jan 12 14:59
Sosumi	kind of is a business opurtunity	Jan 12 15:00
Sosumi	and the move to x86 could mean that they are considering that	Jan 12 15:00
Sosumi	if they aren't,	Jan 12 15:00
Sosumi	better kick them out of their jobs	Jan 12 15:00
Sosumi	ofc I said all this from a business perspective	Jan 12 15:01
Sosumi	inside I just want M$ to burn to the ground	Jan 12 15:01
Sosumi	baby!	Jan 12 15:01
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iophk	http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5255_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312301400_-_through_a_prism_darkly_-_kurt_opsahl.html	Jan 12 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr	media.ccc.de \| CCC-TV - Through a PRISM, Darkly [ http://ur1.ca/geg4p ]	Jan 12 15:20
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 15:32
DaemonFC	The reason I don't use Webkit browsers is because none of them have very good extensions. Chrome is probably the best out of them, but that's not saying much. Every once in a while, it forgets to load extensions like Chrome Adblock into a new tab process, and well, that's usually when I'm browsing a bittorrent website and all kinds of porn ads show up. That never happens with Firefox.	Jan 12 15:32
DaemonFC	I don't know why people use Chrome. It's such a horrible browser. It's not even really a web browser. Some people think it is, but it's really spyware. If you're going to use it, you should use your GNU/Linux distribution's build of Chromium instead, and change your search engine, and turn off all the options that phone home to Google (many of which are still in Chromium).	Jan 12 15:32
DaemonFC	At least you can trust Chromium to do what it says it does. It is stripped of all the proprietary software that's in Chrome and built from publicly available source code. So we know that there aren't any nasty surprises and backdoors that Google is slipping into the proprietary binary-only builds of Chrome.	Jan 12 15:32
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 15:32
DaemonFC	I wouldn't use any other browser than Firefox. Ever. I use it exclusively on my desktop, and on my Android phone. It's the only browser that does what I want it to do. It's the only browser that I trust. It's the only browser that takes security seriously. Sure, Chrome might be secure from bad guys other than Google, but Google can still see everything you're doing with it. The sandbox helper even has setuid root, which means that Google can do	Jan 12 15:32
DaemonFC	anything to your system files as well, even though your user account doesn't own them.	Jan 12 15:32
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 15:32
DaemonFC	I agree that Google isn't much better than Apple, but they're the best option out of the hardware that's out there right now. I don't use Google services on my phone that much. I use DuckDuckGo as my search engine. I really hope that next time I upgrade my phone, that I can get one with Firefox OS. That sounds really nice. There's no reason why all apps shouldn't be web apps. Firefox is definitely powerful enough to enable that sort of	Jan 12 15:32
DaemonFC	functionality. The big question is what kind of hardware partners they'll get. The one they announced the other day was a disappointment. It was Via, which is a third rate x86 processor company that has been particularly hostile to Free and Open Source Software in the past, and GNU/Linux in particular. I hope they do better than this. I was hoping they'd just use Snapdragon processors or something decent like that.	Jan 12 15:32
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 15:33
DaemonFC	Nobody really cares about Microsoft anymore. The only thing worse than being stuck with an iPhone would be getting stuck with Windows Phone. It's got all the same problems that iPhone does, plus the fact that all of the apps available for it are a joke. There's not even a spotify app. Internet Explorer? LOL	Jan 12 15:33
DaemonFC	Hey! Is that a Pocket Internet Explorer or are you just happy to see me? :)	Jan 12 15:33
Sosumi	http://www.cio.com/article/745769/Review_It_s_Easy_to_Fall_in_Love_with_Her_	Jan 12 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.cio.com \| Review: It's Easy to Fall in Love with 'Her' - CIO.com [ http://ur1.ca/geg7n ]	Jan 12 15:42
Sosumi	"The new film by Spike Jones offers a 'surprisingly believable' love story between man and machine."	Jan 12 15:42
Sosumi	aka, makes a nice starting point to discuss artificial life	Jan 12 15:43
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Sosumi	oracle says they'll come with a fix for around 36 bugs this week	Jan 12 16:17
Sosumi	knowing oracle	Jan 12 16:17
Sosumi	I wander how many times 36 bugs and exploits, their fix is going to originate	Jan 12 16:18
Sosumi	and to tell the truth, I kind of prefer sandboxing to java	Jan 12 16:19
Sosumi	for isolation	Jan 12 16:19
Sosumi	and I've just tried a bit of xonotic	Jan 12 17:40
Sosumi	and it's awesome	Jan 12 17:40
Sosumi	plays just like quake	Jan 12 17:40
Sosumi	and doesn't look fugly	Jan 12 17:40
DaemonFC	venussansfurs says:	Jan 12 18:16
DaemonFC	Does every parent regardless of income get a child tax subsidy or do you have to be below a certain income?	Jan 12 18:16
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 18:16
DaemonFC	You get a tax deduction for every dependent that you declare. There's no income limit, but it's a fixed amount for each deduction. You can claim the deduction on an unlimited number of dependents. You can even use it to get back more than you paid in taxes. It's a refundable credit like EITC.	Jan 12 18:16
DaemonFC	I remember reading that when the IRS started requiring the Social Security number of every child a parent was claiming (in the mid 80s), something like 7 million children disappeared from one tax year to the next. ;)	Jan 12 18:16
MinceR	gn	Jan 12 18:48
DaemonFC	http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/21/us/haircut-grounded-clinton-while-the-price-took-off.html	Jan 12 19:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nytimes.com \| Haircut Grounded Clinton While the Price Took Off - New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gei45 ]	Jan 12 19:15
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx3UIVJUW395JXN	Jan 12 19:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Xtian Taliban Fundie is shocked, SHOCKED to discover that gay people have the right to freedom of speech just like the bigot Phil Robertson. So, she freaks out and yanks her own book down to escape the onslaught of perfectly reasonable criticism. [ http://ur1.ca/gei9f ]	Jan 12 19:24
Sosumi	that is making it sound like gay ppl are not just a standard human being	Jan 12 19:25
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 12 19:25
DaemonFC	Linda Harvey. "Maybe He's Not Gay!"	Jan 12 19:25
DaemonFC	Maybe he's bi.	Jan 12 19:25
DaemonFC	Or transgendered.	Jan 12 19:25
DaemonFC	In fact, he could be putting on your make up and dressing up in your clothes while you're not at home! The underwear is a comfort thing. It really is. He swears.	Jan 12 19:25
Sosumi	I thought no underwear was the comfortable way	Jan 12 19:26
Sosumi	silly me	Jan 12 19:26
Sosumi	but those gay articles are kind of laughable	Jan 12 19:28
Sosumi	always	Jan 12 19:28
Sosumi	because at the end of the day	Jan 12 19:29
Sosumi	does it really matter? what a dude or dudete does?	Jan 12 19:29
Sosumi	I thought there were more important issues around	Jan 12 19:30
Sosumi	if it is about gay marriage, just legalize it	Jan 12 19:30
Sosumi	marries who wants to marry and that is it	Jan 12 19:30
Sosumi	period	Jan 12 19:30
Sosumi	no big deal	Jan 12 19:30
DaemonFC	I don't know what the big deal is.	Jan 12 19:31
DaemonFC	Women have found me attractive and I didn't recoil in horror over it.	Jan 12 19:31
DaemonFC	Or start acting weird.	Jan 12 19:32
Sosumi	lol, why would you start acting acting weird?	Jan 12 19:39
Sosumi	that of acting weird sounds like some pre-conceived idea taken from some dumb movie like "the american pie"	Jan 12 19:42
Sosumi	but if dealing with ppl is hard	Jan 12 19:49
Sosumi	there are always nice social eng. books	Jan 12 19:50
Sosumi	and psychology books	Jan 12 19:50
Sosumi	which may help in understanding the human psyche	Jan 12 19:51
Sosumi	but in the end folks will need to field test what they've learned	Jan 12 19:51
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Sosumi	so in the end it is like reading a kung-fu book without actually practicing it	Jan 12 19:53
Sosumi	:)	Jan 12 19:53
Sosumi	anyways GN	Jan 12 19:53
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mattl/status/422584624439521280 https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/422579344456679424	Jan 13 00:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@mattl: @mjg59 "What's the deal with @schestowitz anyway?"	Jan 13 00:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@mjg59: Still, overall, it's nice to have a third party confirm that I'm pretty good at comedy: https://t.co/JTLI1HRc6L	Jan 13 00:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Joke of the Day: #Microsoft ‘Freedom’ http://t.co/SaVhmz0W7s Matthew Garrett now a stand-up comedian.	Jan 13 00:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/422591821621907456	Jan 13 00:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@mjg59: @mattl Best comedy	Jan 13 00:36
schestowitz	now works for https://www.nebula.com/	Jan 13 00:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nebula.com \| Nebula One: World's First Cloud Computer. OpenStack Private Cloud	Jan 13 00:37
schestowitz	founded by "he forged partnerships with Google and Microsoft and helped create Google Moon, Google Mars, and Microsoft World Wide Telescope"	Jan 13 00:38
schestowitz	https://www.nebula.com/blog/2012/10/18/who-we-are-and-how-we-came-be/	Jan 13 00:43
schestowitz	"nebula.com/"	Jan 13 00:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nebula.com \| Nebula: Who We Are And How We Came To Be — Nebula One: World's First Cloud Computer. OpenStack Private Cloud [ http://ur1.ca/gemfu ]	Jan 13 00:43
schestowitz	"Several weeks later the trio formed stealth company “Fourth Paradigm Development”, a tribute to the influential ideas of Microsoft Researcher Dr. Jim Gray. In May, 2011 Nebula closed a Series-A investment led by Kleiner Perkins Caufield and Byers and Highland Capital Partners with participation from Google's first three investors Andy Bechtolsheim, Ram Shriram, and David Cheriton and several other high profile investors."	Jan 13 00:43
schestowitz	https://www.nebula.com/static/launch_press_release.pdf	Jan 13 00:45
schestowitz	"assembles team from NASA, Google, Amazon and Microsoft"	Jan 13 00:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For	Jan 13 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	Netbooks http://t.co/jjyJb0sY51	Jan 13 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gemt4	Jan 13 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Dominated Apple At CES	Jan 13 01:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab Enterprise Linux and Black Lab Linux	Jan 13 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	for Education released http://t.co/CVWlkCAXiE	Jan 13 01:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Dominated Apple At CES \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gemt6	Jan 13 01:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Black Lab Enterprise Linux and Black Lab Linux for Education released \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Core i3/i5/i7 Ubuntu Linux Performance	Jan 13 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	Update http://t.co/TTid7bTrNM	Jan 13 03:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Epic OpenShot 2.0 Update!(Part 2 of 3)	Jan 13 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NoM8NCFXNG	Jan 13 03:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel Core i3/i5/i7 Ubuntu Linux Performance Update \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gen6y	Jan 13 03:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Epic OpenShot 2.0 Update!(Part 2 of 3) \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 03:12
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 13 04:25
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iophk	http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-04-Is-More-Secure-Than-Windows-8-and-Mac-OS-X-Says-UK-Goverment-416016.shtml	Jan 13 08:59
TechrightsBot-tr	news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 12.04 Is More Secure Than Windows 8 and Mac OS X, Says UK Goverment [ http://ur1.ca/geor2 ]	Jan 13 08:59
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Sosumi	https://twitter.com/KeepingtheLeith/status/421857469103501312/photo/1	Jan 13 09:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@KeepingtheLeith: Jabhat al-Nusra....a gay rights supporter? This is one of the commanders of Jabhat al-Nusra...no further comment.... http://t.co/5RwCDiuA1W	Jan 13 09:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@KeepingtheLeith: Jabhat al-Nusra....a gay rights supporter? This is one of the commanders of Jabhat al-Nusra...no further comment.... http://t.co/5RwCDiuA1W	Jan 13 09:23
Sosumi	lawl	Jan 13 09:23
Sosumi	lawl^900000000000000000000	Jan 13 09:23
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Sosumi	male terrorists in drag with guns	Jan 13 09:25
Sosumi	couldn't make that up	Jan 13 09:26
Sosumi	when will bones's man kerry and warnuts maccain jump to defend the inflow of guns into the "rebels"	Jan 13 09:27
Sosumi	perhaps they, Kerry and Maccain, are in some kind of fetish I've never heard off	Jan 13 09:31
iophk	http://insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/UK-Gov-Report-Summary.pdf	Jan 13 09:45
iophk	restricted boot is mistakenly seen as a security enhancement there	Jan 13 09:46
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iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/01/12/jolla-review-some-rough-edges-but-this-linux-smartphone-shows-promise/	Jan 13 09:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gep2y ]	Jan 13 09:58
iophk	http://www.itworld.com/operating-systems/390781/unix-book-review-perl-one-liners	Jan 13 10:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itworld.com \| Unix: Book review -- Perl one-liners \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gep69 ]	Jan 13 10:18
iophk	old - http://ursecta.com/wp/2011/03/dr-dobbs-circling-the-drain/	Jan 13 10:29
TechrightsBot-tr	ursecta.com \| ursecta.com – Dr Dobbs circling the drain [ http://ur1.ca/gep8v ]	Jan 13 10:29
iophk	"not a classic Microsoft apologist" but another kind it appears	Jan 13 10:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.14 May Bring Big VMware GPU Driver	Jan 13 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	Update http://t.co/912RvziWAB	Jan 13 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geql7	Jan 13 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/QHJzA24FXP	Jan 13 14:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.14 May Bring Big VMware GPU Driver Update \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 14:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/422806310145380352	Jan 13 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/LAfGVK1kKF	Jan 13 14:04
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kali Linux 1.0.6 released. Cryptsetup has	Jan 13 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	“nuclear option” integrated	Jan 13 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NhPoPXlWxP	Jan 13 14:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/qniBGzI1Fa	Jan 13 14:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Kali Linux 1.0.6 released. Cryptsetup has “nuclear option” integrated \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 14:04
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 14:04
Sosumi	and again, label me surprised on how a "free" game like xonotic can be so good	Jan 13 14:04
Sosumi	and I actually love the soundtrack on the levels	Jan 13 14:05
Sosumi	quite catchy tunes	Jan 13 14:05
MinceR	shouldn't be surprising	Jan 13 14:06
MinceR	free software can be pretty good; gratis mods for games also can be pretty good	Jan 13 14:07
Sosumi	but I am surprised nonetheless	Jan 13 14:09
Sosumi	and most free software has plenty of corporate backers	Jan 13 14:10
Sosumi	xonotic doesn't seem to the case	Jan 13 14:11
Sosumi	and that is why I'm surprised	Jan 13 14:11
Sosumi	because of how it turned out to be	Jan 13 14:12
Sosumi	without any sponsorship	Jan 13 14:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3513245	Jan 13 14:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:	Jan 13 14:59
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by skywalker1977@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ece8a0a4fc294a1465ce.jpg	Jan 13 14:59
schestowitz	"Whoa! Where?"	Jan 13 14:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3513782	Jan 13 14:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: People trying to walk against the wind in Norway	Jan 13 14:59
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schestowitz	"The video version ;-) http://youtu.be/rKUipxR3bDc "	Jan 13 14:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Walkin' in the Wind: People blown over in streets as Storm Ivar hits Norway - YouTube	Jan 13 14:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3511244	Jan 13 14:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### #Profit is not a human value	Jan 13 14:59
schestowitz	"That is because you are a right-wing capitalist plain & simple, no matter what labels or flag color you adopt to conceal your true political orientation."	Jan 13 14:59
schestowitz	"Allrighty then."	Jan 13 15:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3514668	Jan 13 15:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best Email clients for Linux http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/best-email-clients-linux/19051 #gnu #linux	Jan 13 15:00
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Best Email clients for Linux \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/geqzf ]	Jan 13 15:00
schestowitz	"will there ever be a Worst linux email clients article ?"	Jan 13 15:00
schestowitz	Would be pointless because one can just make the list by making a crap app in one afternoon	Jan 13 15:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3510965	Jan 13 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/756628-7-reasons-android-will-grow-on-the-desktop/ #linux with many apps	Jan 13 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.linux.com \| 7 Reasons Desktop Android Will Grow \| Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/geqzt ]	Jan 13 15:02
schestowitz	"Android, by itself, is fine. The problems are the proprietary Google applications generally bundled with it. We only need an easy tool to get rid of them and it would be a great improvement over Windows or OS X (although I still prefer to run completely Free Software OSses with no proprietary software installed by default)."	Jan 13 15:02
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3514668	Jan 13 15:04
schestowitz	"I was an expert in the field :-) I did miss some more information about crypto facilities ."	Jan 13 15:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Who's afraid of Linux, anyway?	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9kNplbyt6c	Jan 13 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Client Side Decoration Improvements Land In	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	GTK+ http://t.co/8JwoPkbTVy	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger6y	Jan 13 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Who's afraid of Linux, anyway? \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Email clients for Linux	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pqk1sVu4rh	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger6z	Jan 13 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Client Side Decoration Improvements Land In GTK+ \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Email clients for Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	Smartphone Shows Promise http://t.co/qxODBXJSHw	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger70	Jan 13 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Jolla Review: Some Rough Edges, But This Linux Smartphone Shows Promise \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 Is More Secure Than Windows 8 and	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	Mac OS X, Says UK Government	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iFfPZQCPHo	Jan 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ger72	Jan 13 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 12.04 Is More Secure Than Windows 8 and Mac OS X, Says UK Government \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 15:27
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3513664	Jan 13 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Monsanto in India https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/283704_431803686914913_779273093_n.jpg farming with poisons	Jan 13 16:04
schestowitz	"This is what people needs: poisonous food. Good job Monsanto!"	Jan 13 16:04
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKlQw00vJeA	Jan 13 16:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Monsanto Agent Orange - Vietnam - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gergn ]	Jan 13 16:05
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htQkVRF68qg&feature=related	Jan 13 16:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Monsanto: Bovine Growth Hormones, GMO Food and Pig Patent Applications - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gergy ]	Jan 13 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GTK3 Version Of Firefox Up For Fedora Testing	Jan 13 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aOTWCtmMba	Jan 13 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geri9	Jan 13 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GTK3 Version Of Firefox Up For Fedora Testing \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 16:13
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Gekko2010/status/422840033742454784	Jan 13 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@Gekko2010: @schestowitz It must be worrying that spying is being used more a political tool to discredit the intellectual opponents of the US.	Jan 13 16:41
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/new-leaks-offer-a-few-more-peeks-at-normandy-nokias-android-phone/	Jan 13 17:52
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| New leaks offer a few more peeks at “Normandy,” Nokia’s Android phone \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ges7e ]	Jan 13 17:52
Sosumi	so m$nokia going for android in order to coerce ppl into skype and outlook?	Jan 13 17:52
Sosumi	on the low end asha category	Jan 13 17:53
Sosumi	because winblows mobile is way too heavy	Jan 13 17:53
Sosumi	lol	Jan 13 17:53
Sosumi	those dirty tricks	Jan 13 17:53
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MinceR	gn	Jan 13 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 13.04 Received Its Last Major Kernel	Jan 13 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	Update http://t.co/wQZFL4AZSO	Jan 13 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/get7g	Jan 13 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Those Krazy Kids & KDE http://t.co/P1FKhl0LM7	Jan 13 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/get7h	Jan 13 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 13.04 Received Its Last Major Kernel Update \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Those Krazy Kids & KDE \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs	Jan 13 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/71sDqvr7RX	Jan 13 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/get7i	Jan 13 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 20:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Are large screen Android phones destroying the	Jan 13 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone? http://t.co/1HUCGJKVsK	Jan 13 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Are large screen Android phones destroying the iPhone? \| Tux Machines	Jan 13 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/getmm	Jan 13 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	@kubuntuBR Kubuntu Brasil is out! http://t.co/nNS7RCfjHm	Jan 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	Stories via @tuxmachines @aimee_maree @smashse	Jan 13 22:45
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TechrightsBot-tr	paper.li \| Kubuntu Brasil	Jan 13 22:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora 20 (Peach) hand-on: Even better than I	Jan 14 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	expected http://t.co/IdsfhfFimh	Jan 14 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/geu6b	Jan 14 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora 20 (Peach) hand-on: Even better than I expected \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 00:09
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DaemonFC	KDE 4.12 cuts RAM usage.	Jan 14 00:39
DaemonFC	https://blogs.kde.org/2013/07/18/memory-usage-improvements-411	Jan 14 00:39
TechrightsBot-tr	blogs.kde.org \| Memory usage improvements for 4.11 \| blogs.kde.org [ http://ur1.ca/geuay ]	Jan 14 00:39
DaemonFC	kwin also seems to be using less RAM lately. Only about a fourth as much as kwin on KDE 4.10.	Jan 14 00:39
DaemonFC	I don't know why RHEL 7 is switching to XFS.	Jan 14 01:11
DaemonFC	That will make volumes harder to manage.	Jan 14 01:12
DaemonFC	You can't shrink one file system to make more room for another.	Jan 14 01:12
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 14 01:52
Sosumi	but weren't them all in love with btrfs?	Jan 14 01:53
Sosumi	*they	Jan 14 01:53
brendyn	k/close	Jan 14 02:03
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DaemonFC	Firefox's memshrink project had weekly status reports for a long time about all the memory usage improvements they were making.	Jan 14 03:31
DaemonFC	It still uses too much.	Jan 14 03:31
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DaemonFC	shared a link via Android and Me.	Jan 14 04:03
DaemonFC	26 seconds ago	Jan 14 04:03
DaemonFC	http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/nokia-normandy-shown-in-the-wild-and-powered-on-in-latest-leaked-photos/	Jan 14 04:03
TechrightsBot-tr	androidandme.com \| Nokia Normandy shown in the wild and powered on in latest leaked photos \| Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gew09 ]	Jan 14 04:03
DaemonFC	Nobody should buy this phone. Microsoft is going to take over Nokia soon, so it should be obvious what they'll do to people who buy this phone. They'll either cut support for it entirely, or try to change it over to Windows Phone, which nobody really wants because it sucks.	Jan 14 04:04
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MinceR	also, those phones are likely to be crap anyway	Jan 14 04:08
DaemonFC	MinceR: It looks like it's an Android-based firmware that Nokia has given a new user interface that looks like Windows Phone.	Jan 14 04:10
DaemonFC	http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/nokia-normandy-budget-android-phone-purportedly-leaked-in-multiple-images-470858	Jan 14 04:10
TechrightsBot-tr	gadgets.ndtv.com \| Nokia 'Normandy' budget Android phone purportedly leaked in multiple images \| NDTV Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/gew1z ]	Jan 14 04:10
MinceR	and probably crippled to make winblows phony look good	Jan 14 04:10
MinceR	also, anyone who had a clue fled the company long ago	Jan 14 04:11
iophk	http://www.4-traders.com/MICROSOFT-CORPORATION-4835/news/Microsoft-Corporation--Foiled-How-to-beat-software-vendors-sneaky-price-increases-17805088/	Jan 14 05:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.4-traders.com \| Microsoft Corporation : Foiled! How to beat software vendors' sneaky price increases \| 4-Traders [ http://ur1.ca/gewqy ]	Jan 14 05:30
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/t/software-licensing/foiled-how-beat-software-vendors-sneaky-price-increases-233825	Jan 14 05:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Foiled! How to beat software vendors' sneaky price increases \| Software licensing - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gewra ]	Jan 14 05:31
iophk	missing the option for FOSS there in the article	Jan 14 05:31
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/eu-offers-public-a-chance-to-fix-copyright-law-140113/	Jan 14 06:19
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| EU Offers Public a Chance to Fix Copyright Law \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gex5r ]	Jan 14 06:19
iophk	old	Jan 14 06:19
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iophk	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/quarkxpress-the-demise-of-a-design-desk-darling/	Jan 14 06:22
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| How QuarkXPress became a mere afterthought in publishing \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gex6q ]	Jan 14 06:22
iophk	"CEO Fred Ebrahimi salted the wounds by taunting users to switch to Windows if they didn’t like it"	Jan 14 06:24
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/rip-information-security-done-in-backdoors-and-secret-deals-233989	Jan 14 06:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| RIP, information security, done in by backdoors and secret deals \| Data Center - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gex8i ]	Jan 14 06:29
iophk	product placement : http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/shaw-thing/62793-microsoft-on-the-ascent-%E2%80%93-it-is-cool-to-be-a-nerd	Jan 14 06:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itwire.com \| Microsoft on the ascent – it is cool to be a nerd [ http://ur1.ca/gex9d ]	Jan 14 06:32
MinceR	geekings	Jan 14 06:43
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 14 08:39
DaemonFC	The breeders have absolutely no sense of humor at all. I think I have a right to use that word based on how many times I've heard the breeders use the word "gay" to describe something they don't like.	Jan 14 08:39
DaemonFC	Also, I had a breeder call me a dirty ****** one day, so I looked at him and said "No, I'm a clean one. Have a nice day!".	Jan 14 08:39
DaemonFC	If I can take that without becoming irate, which is their whole reason for using that word, then I think I should be able to use a word that I think describes them doing something that I don't like. Besides, it adequately describes what they spend their whole life doing. Having children. Getting them diagnosed with ass burgers, and then when they grow up there are no jobs because more people reproduced than was necessary to fill the workforce, and	Jan 14 08:39
DaemonFC	every three breeder couples has their brood living with them until they're in their 30s.	Jan 14 08:39
DaemonFC	I think the whole thing is menacing, but one birth in particular is not noteworthy. I find it more interesting to read the obituaries.	Jan 14 08:39
iophk	http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fullerton-cops-aquitted-homeless-man-death-article-1.1578808	Jan 14 08:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nydailynews.com \| Fullerton police officers not guilty in homeless man’s death, prosecutors won’t try 3rd cop - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/geyc1 ]	Jan 14 08:43
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUlMmT1zWTM	Jan 14 08:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| VHEMT - Fertco - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/geycw ]	Jan 14 08:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Catch up on http://t.co/Px6mNbK9q1 2014	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cpgfCwJxfr	Jan 14 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr	Linux.conf.au \| linux.conf.au	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgv	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME: Key to Linux Desktop Unification?	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6cHnegVWLM	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgw	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top Android and Linux devices from CES	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Wn54EzV2Pp	Jan 14 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Catch up on Linux.conf.au 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgx	Jan 14 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME: Key to Linux Desktop Unification? \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Top Android and Linux devices from CES \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nameless Fedora 21 Linux Is an Opportunity for	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	Growth http://t.co/Y3zeKgFARQ	Jan 14 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezgy	Jan 14 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Nameless Fedora 21 Linux Is an Opportunity for Growth \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 10:25
DaemonFC	Fedora 20 is quite good.	Jan 14 10:38
DaemonFC	Both the KDE and GNOME versions.	Jan 14 10:38
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/patent-trolls-target-their-next-victim-cloud-computing-233944	Jan 14 10:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Patent trolls target their next victim: Cloud computing \| Open Source Software - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gezls ]	Jan 14 10:38
iophk	http://www.tomshardware.com/news/mozilla-firefox-government-backdoor-security,25737.html	Jan 14 10:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tomshardware.com \| Mozilla: Firefox Has No Government Backdoors [ http://ur1.ca/gezma ]	Jan 14 10:40
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/14/eich_urges_open_source_surveillance_audits/	Jan 14 10:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| Mozilla CTO Eich: If your browser isn't open source (ahem, ahem, IE, Chrome, Safari), DON'T TRUST IT • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gezmn ]	Jan 14 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines For Systems Administrators, GNU/Linux (and	Jan 14 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	UNIX) Becomes Key Skill http://t.co/VRxvJwKiE9	Jan 14 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gezuj	Jan 14 11:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| For Systems Administrators, GNU/Linux (and UNIX) Becomes Key Skill \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 11:05
DaemonFC	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/14/eich_urges_open_source_surveillance_audits/	Jan 14 11:15
DaemonFC	Mozilla isn't the best way to browse the web, it's just the only way to browse the web.	Jan 14 11:15
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 14 11:15
MinceR	:>	Jan 14 11:16
Sosumi	internet explorer ftw :P	Jan 14 11:43
MinceR	what has that got to do with browsing the web? :>	Jan 14 11:43
iophk	http://gizmodo.com/federal-court-invalidates-net-neutrality-rules-sides-w-1501028467	Jan 14 11:46
TechrightsBot-tr	gizmodo.com \| Federal Court Strikes Down Net Neutrality Rules, Sides with Big Telecom [ http://ur1.ca/gf09f ]	Jan 14 11:46
MinceR	http://imgur.com/BbpOch8	Jan 14 11:46
TechrightsBot-tr	imgur.com \| A monument in honor of Brazilian corruption - Imgur	Jan 14 11:46
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MinceR	> "Like the famous mad philosopher said, when you stare into the void, the void stares also; but if you cast into the void, you get a	Jan 14 11:57
MinceR	type conversion error. (Which just goes to show Nietzsche wasn't a C++ programmer.)"	Jan 14 11:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On Desktop Environments http://t.co/dV9gmRW9w0	Jan 14 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf0uy	Jan 14 12:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| On Desktop Environments \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 12:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora Claimed Better Fedora Than Fedora, and	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	It’s Growing! http://t.co/8IdwV8fWkF	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf17d	Jan 14 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora Claimed Better Fedora Than Fedora, and It’s Growing! \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 13:18
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iophk	http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tortured-britons-cannot-sue-saudi-arabia-1432256	Jan 14 13:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/sZv7Obbrhi	Jan 14 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf1gz	Jan 14 14:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 14:01
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3514668	Jan 14 14:50
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TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best Email clients for Linux http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/best-email-clients-linux/19051 #gnu #linux	Jan 14 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Best Email clients for Linux \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/geqzf ]	Jan 14 14:50
schestowitz__	"Mutt Mutt Mutt Mutt :-) Reading that, it's sad to see how poorly rated Kmail was. I don't generally use GUI mail clients, but it had (3.0-ish) impressed me, along with the rest of the Kontact suite. I've also had some pretty good experiences with Zimbra for both Webmail and as an IMAP provider."	Jan 14 14:50
schestowitz__	"@André Koot: Microsoft Outlook under WINE. Worst. Mail. App. Ever."	Jan 14 14:50
iophk	http://www.zdnet.com/net-neutrality-gets-a-kick-in-the-teeth-7000025154/	Jan 14 14:59
iophk	the head of the FCC has ties to cable and might not fight the decision	Jan 14 14:59
iophk	a lot of strange spin is coming from some quarters: http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140114-909707.html	Jan 14 14:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zdnet.com \| Net neutrality gets a kick in the teeth \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gf1t1 ]	Jan 14 14:59
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Open Internet Ruling: No Change for Consumers' Ability to Access and Use the Internet - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf1t3 ]	Jan 14 14:59
iophk	http://linuxgizmos.com/google-acquires-nest-gains-linux-based-iot-tech/	Jan 14 15:12
iophk	http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/01/google-and-internet-things	Jan 14 15:12
TechrightsBot-tr	linuxgizmos.com \| Google acquires Nest, gains Linux IoT tech · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf1yj ]	Jan 14 15:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.economist.com \| Google and the internet of things: Feathering its Nest \| The Economist [ http://ur1.ca/gf1yk ]	Jan 14 15:12
schestowitz__	iophk: murdoch	Jan 14 15:13
iophk	yep	Jan 14 15:13
schestowitz__	. http://ur1.ca/gf1yc	Jan 14 15:14
schestowitz__	http://ur1.ca/gf1ym	Jan 14 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: It was #sky that recently, in the #uk , 'softly' banned TorrentFreak, a news site accused of doing no wrong.	Jan 14 15:14
schestowitz__	http://ur1.ca/gf1yc	Jan 14 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Rupert #murdoch and other #propaganda moguls benefit from tied Web, which they use to suppress or #censor alternative messages	Jan 14 15:14
schestowitz__	I posted the prior links too	Jan 14 15:14
schestowitz__	just catching up	Jan 14 15:14
iophk	he's also part of the M$ chorus	Jan 14 15:14
schestowitz__	you can see in context in twitter.com	Jan 14 15:14
schestowitz__	iophk: he hates Golg	Jan 14 15:14
schestowitz__	They have news syndicators	Jan 14 15:15
schestowitz__	and these include his competition, inc. foreign	Jan 14 15:15
schestowitz__	e.g. English-speaking Russian and Farsi news	Jan 14 15:15
schestowitz__	And often they blast his propaganda intruments	Jan 14 15:15
schestowitz__	not just publications	Jan 14 15:15
schestowitz__	but messages too	Jan 14 15:15
schestowitz__	Showing them to be what they are: propaganda	Jan 14 15:15
schestowitz__	He's used to controlling info, Google is a threat to this Power	Jan 14 15:16
iophk	He's gotten a lot of the cable networks	Jan 14 15:17
iophk	The Internet deals a problem to those depending on (artificial) scarcity and being a bottleneck	Jan 14 15:26
iophk	There were probably more than a few examples from the Gutenberg printing press days where governments / kings controlled who could run a press.	Jan 14 15:28
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iophk	http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/	Jan 14 16:01
iophk	"Reeves was instrumental in establishing the police department's first Tactical Response Team."	Jan 14 16:01
iophk	thus the attitude	Jan 14 16:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.cnn.com \| Bond denied for ex-cop who allegedly shot texting dad - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf32a ]	Jan 14 16:01
iophk	http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=69&doc_id=1320638	Jan 14 16:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eetimes.com \| Stars of Open-Source in China, Says Hacker 'Bunnie' Huang \| EE Times [ http://ur1.ca/gf34x ]	Jan 14 16:06
iophk	http://makezine.com/magazine/building-an-open-source-laptop/	Jan 14 16:08
iophk	http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3597	Jan 14 16:08
TechrightsBot-tr	makezine.com \| Building an Open Source Laptop \| MAKE [ http://ur1.ca/gdbgy ]	Jan 14 16:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bunniestudios.com \| Make: Article on Novena « bunnie's blog [ http://ur1.ca/gdev0 ]	Jan 14 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google acquires Nest, gains Linux IoT tech	Jan 14 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RwYB0mwCsy	Jan 14 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf370	Jan 14 16:11
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Google acquires Nest, gains Linux IoT tech \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 16:11
iophk	"We think it may be reasonable to kick off the campaign shortly after Chinese New Year, maybe late February or March. " -- so a second one to look for in February.	Jan 14 16:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux powered Chromebook Raffle	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/s0FEpUvnQ4	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf3rv	Jan 14 16:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Bodhi Linux powered Chromebook Raffle \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Top 7 Best Linux Distros for 2014	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YRX5Yf445H	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf3rw	Jan 14 16:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Top 7 Best Linux Distros for 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 16:56
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3516274]	Jan 14 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Humanos	Jan 14 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by atari130xe@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e22594887a25bd109e8f.jpeg	Jan 14 17:08
schestowitz__	""News of my death has been greatly exaggerated" Samuel Leghorn Clemens. I had occasion to quote this to the bursar upon visiting my old school in Oxford, who had me down as dead !"	Jan 14 17:08
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3517315	Jan 14 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs http://linuxgizmos.com/linux-friendly-mini-pc-goes-haswell/ the computer used for #linuxmint quite famously. #gnu #linux	Jan 14 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr	-> linuxgizmos.com \| Linux-friendly mini-PC moves to Haswell CPUs · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/gf3x6 ]	Jan 14 17:08
schestowitz__	"I could buy one if they had it with an AMD processor"	Jan 14 17:08
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3504391	Jan 14 17:09
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Losing all sensitivities, torturing and killing without guilt. http://www.today.com/news/ex-cia-lawyer-waterboarding-my-conscience-clear-2D11896354 the #cia wants YOU!	Jan 14 17:09
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.today.com \| Ex-CIA lawyer on waterboarding: 'My conscience is clear' - TODAY.com [ http://ur1.ca/gducv ]	Jan 14 17:09
schestowitz__	"I wouldn't say that the media belongs to the government directly... but it does belong to private shareholders, and if you look, some of the largest shareholders have also had positions in government at some level or another, so it's largely a semantic difference."	Jan 14 17:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CyanogenMod launches new Gallery App	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cP76TC2wgD	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/423233628370251776	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/Px6mNbK9q1, Linux Darling, and More	Jan 14 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| CyanogenMod launches new Gallery App \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	Linux List http://t.co/SqAxkXMDUO	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hh	Jan 14 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	Linux.conf.au \| linux.conf.au	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Updates SteamOS With CPU/GPU	Jan 14 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux.conf.au, Linux Darling, and More Linux List \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	Optimizations http://t.co/6qYhVJNLgA	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hi	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Academy Expands Training, Includes	Jan 14 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Valve Updates SteamOS With CPU/GPU Optimizations \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	OpenStack Coursework http://t.co/b50TKoZURX	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hj	Jan 14 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Academy Expands Training, Includes OpenStack Coursework \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Non-Linux FOSS: Persistence of Vision Raytracer	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	(POV-Ray) http://t.co/dMIqmpuhi4	Jan 14 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4hk	Jan 14 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Non-Linux FOSS: Persistence of Vision Raytracer (POV-Ray) \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 18:22
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3519031	Jan 14 18:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NY Times reporter fighting order to reveal his #CIA sources http://www.thejournal.ie/nyt-writer-fights-order-telling-him-to-reveal-his-sources-1264152-Jan2014/ http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/01/14/new-york-times-reporter-resisting-obama-administrations-attack-on-the-press-heads-to-supreme-court/ http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140114/ny-times-reporter-appeals-top-us-court-leak-case	Jan 14 18:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thejournal.ie \| NY Times reporter fighting order to reveal his CIA sources [ http://ur1.ca/gf4lm ]	Jan 14 18:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> dissenter.firedoglake.com \| New York Times Reporter James Risen, Fighting Obama Administration’s Attack on the Press, Turns to Supreme Court \| The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/gf4ln ]	Jan 14 18:49
schestowitz__	"	Jan 14 18:49
schestowitz__	LOL, what an easy way to put someone in jail. Have a fake leak, then demand the name of the leaker.	Jan 14 18:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.globalpost.com \| NY Times reporter appeals to top US court in leak case \| GlobalPost [ http://ur1.ca/gf4lo ]	Jan 14 18:49
schestowitz__	Newspapers should compartmentalize this knowledge somehow. Perhaps one person should make sure the person is who they say they are and another does the interview without knowing who did the fact check and who they are interviewing other than what they are. That way no one knows who said what but everyone knows things are fact checked. There would still be some risk to those who do the ID checking but the task can be distributed so	Jan 14 18:49
schestowitz__	that everyone would have to be put in jail to reveal a source.	Jan 14 18:49
schestowitz__	"	Jan 14 18:49
schestowitz__	The Hammong case seemed a bit like a setup, somewhat of a Sting Op like those which the FBI uses to manufacture "threat" and then get budget to fight bogus plots it creates (by offering bombs)	Jan 14 18:50
schestowitz__	Hammond	Jan 14 18:50
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3518667	Jan 14 18:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mozilla: Firefox Has No Government Backdoors http://www.tomshardware.com/news/mozilla-firefox-government-backdoor-security,25737.html no similar statement from #microsoft #apple #google	Jan 14 18:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.tomshardware.com \| Mozilla: Firefox Has No Government Backdoors [ http://ur1.ca/gezma ]	Jan 14 18:51
schestowitz__	"@Herzmeister - When I said about never seeing the source code from "them" I was referring to MS / Apple, not Mozilla. The fact that source is available for FF is exactly my point."	Jan 14 18:51
schestowitz__	"use Abrowser... it's the one that comes with Trsiquel GNU/Linux... fully free (as in freedom) software. Abrowser is just like firefox but only with free as in freedom add-ons"	Jan 14 18:51
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MinceR	gn	Jan 14 19:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Make: Article on Novena http://t.co/3QIfMNPHU9	Jan 14 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4wv	Jan 14 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What I Saw on the CES Show Floor: Your Work on	Jan 14 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	Display http://t.co/QuHFOvugIQ	Jan 14 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4ww	Jan 14 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical posts a $21 million loss – is	Jan 14 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Make: Article on Novena \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu’s future doomed? http://t.co/OwK8FKCoxk	Jan 14 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4wx	Jan 14 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| What I Saw on the CES Show Floor: Your Work on Display \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good Bye Mandriva http://t.co/w4Ly9pcGtH	Jan 14 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4wy	Jan 14 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical posts a $21 million loss – is Ubuntu’s future doomed? \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Good Bye Mandriva \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam Dev Days show plan for Valve-owned	Jan 14 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	future, and Microsoft should be terrified	Jan 14 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KfV85zgA2t	Jan 14 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf4x0	Jan 14 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Steam Dev Days show plan for Valve-owned future, and Microsoft should be terrified \| Tux Machines	Jan 14 19:55
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lirodon	http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/index.xml	Jan 14 20:11
TechrightsBot-tr	www.finegael.ie \| O’Donovan calls for crackdown on internet browsers and payment systems which facilitate illegal activity [ http://ur1.ca/gf50l ]	Jan 14 20:11
lirodon	Do they even know how the internet works	Jan 14 20:11
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Sosumi	I think coinye is dead	Jan 15 02:07
Sosumi	because of Kanye's West lawsuit	Jan 15 02:10
MinceR	(javascript) http://nullifynsa.com/	Jan 15 02:28
TechrightsBot-tr	nullifynsa.com \| Nullify NSA! \|Nullify NSA!	Jan 15 02:28
MinceR	http://www.ibtimes.com/reddit-mozilla-others-protest-nsa-spying-honor-aaron-swartz-day-we-fight-back-1538148	Jan 15 02:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| Reddit, Mozilla And Others To Protest NSA Spying, Honor Aaron Swartz On 'The Day We Fight Back' [ http://ur1.ca/gf7ft ]	Jan 15 02:40
MinceR	http://bgr.com/2014/01/14/net-neutrality-court-ruling/	Jan 15 02:55
TechrightsBot-tr	bgr.com \| Net neutrality court ruling: Net neutrality killed \| BGR [ http://ur1.ca/gf7im ]	Jan 15 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Homemade Raspberry Pi tablet, PiPad, with wood	Jan 15 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	finish and Linux OS will set your sweet tooth	Jan 15 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	tingling http://t.co/0hiLLu4FKt	Jan 15 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf7n6	Jan 15 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DA223 HQL: Acer’s all-in-one Android PC has a	Jan 15 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	Snapdragon 600 inside http://t.co/kzS1mGY94T	Jan 15 03:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Homemade Raspberry Pi tablet, PiPad, with wood finish and Linux OS will set your sweet tooth tingling \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf7n7	Jan 15 03:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| DA223 HQL: Acer’s all-in-one Android PC has a Snapdragon 600 inside \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 03:14
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iophk	outrecurve is calling users 'freeloaders'	Jan 15 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apache Foundation and Linux Foundation join	Jan 15 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	forces for ApacheCon http://t.co/OxIYAHA9hN	Jan 15 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8fq	Jan 15 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny ARM9 box-PC adds wireless options	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aHSVtrJaLJ	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8fr	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 13.12 released http://t.co/SP3KcjPZwt	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8fs	Jan 15 04:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Apache Foundation and Linux Foundation join forces for ApacheCon \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 04:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Tiny ARM9 box-PC adds wireless options \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	Searches by Default http://t.co/NO9ywSahdb	Jan 15 04:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Netrunner 13.12 released \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8ft	Jan 15 04:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Home control hub offers Siri-like voice	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	assistant http://t.co/j5PHsBTftV	Jan 15 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gf8fv	Jan 15 04:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Home control hub offers Siri-like voice assistant \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 04:39
iophk	http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/	Jan 15 04:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.finegael.ie \| O’Donovan calls for crackdown on internet browsers and payment systems which facilitate illegal activity [ http://ur1.ca/gf8gj ]	Jan 15 04:41
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iophk	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57617242-94/why-you-should-care-about-net-neutrality-faq/	Jan 15 07:52
TechrightsBot-tr	news.cnet.com \| Why you should care about Net neutrality (FAQ) \| Mobile - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gfaee ]	Jan 15 07:52
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MinceR	apparently obomber promised net neutrality in 2008	Jan 15 07:58
iophk	Is it gone from his campaign site?	Jan 15 08:04
MinceR	haven't checked yet	Jan 15 08:07
MinceR	seen it in an index.hu article, i've found more mentions of it since	Jan 15 08:12
MinceR	http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/510/support-network-neutrality-on-the-internet/	Jan 15 08:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.politifact.com \| The Obameter: Support network neutrality on the Internet \| PolitiFact [ http://ur1.ca/gfamc ]	Jan 15 08:12
MinceR	funny how they say it was kept	Jan 15 08:12
iophk	kept for how long? ...	Jan 15 08:12
MinceR	it seems that they promised it here: http://change.gov/agenda/technology_agenda/	Jan 15 08:13
TechrightsBot-tr	change.gov \| Technology \| Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team [ http://ur1.ca/gfamz ]	Jan 15 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Rc8mENHkWc	Jan 15 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfaou	Jan 15 08:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 08:17
iophk	"Protect the Openness of the Internet: Support the principle of network neutrality to preserve the benefits of open competition on the Internet. "	Jan 15 08:31
iophk	http://www.technologyreview.com/news/523606/net-neutrality-quashed-new-pricing-schemes-throttling-and-business-models-to-follow/	Jan 15 08:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.technologyreview.com \| Net Neutrality Quashing Will Mean New Pricing Schemes, Throttling, and Business Models \| MIT Technology Review [ http://ur1.ca/gfaz8 ]	Jan 15 08:37
iophk	double-billing would soon be allowed	Jan 15 08:37
iophk	once each for sender and receiver	Jan 15 08:37
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1554567_572745599485165_845563793_n.jpg	Jan 15 08:42
MinceR	:>	Jan 15 08:45
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/10774_572843132808745_1668944748_n.jpg	Jan 15 08:52
DaemonFC	What the water in West Virginia looks like right now because of "Freedom Industries".	Jan 15 08:52
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Sosumi	that's nothing	Jan 15 08:54
Sosumi	thanks to fracking you can even set fire to the water	Jan 15 08:55
Sosumi	http://www.naturalgaswatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/flaming_water.jpg	Jan 15 08:55
Sosumi	that is free trade/free market and lack of proper government oversight	Jan 15 08:57
Sosumi	and in the end, the lack of a proper government	Jan 15 08:57
Sosumi	which allows big corps to run amok doing what pleases them	Jan 15 08:58
Sosumi	http://yubanet.com/uploads/2/betterinsomalia.jpg	Jan 15 09:03
Sosumi	sad, but true	Jan 15 09:04
MinceR	(gore) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuKV2Z3eYTY	Jan 15 09:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| FIST OF JESUS - visit www.fistofjesus.com - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/dphqa ]	Jan 15 09:07
Sosumi	it is age restricted :(	Jan 15 09:14
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 09:16
Sosumi	http://www.tonymacx86.com/mac-pro-mods/120757-mac-pro-late-2013-replica.html	Jan 15 09:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tonymacx86.com \| Mac Pro (late 2013) replica [ http://ur1.ca/gfbj0 ]	Jan 15 09:20
Sosumi	still better than the real	Jan 15 09:20
MinceR	about as ugly, though	Jan 15 09:20
Sosumi	I can only think of it as an oversized dildo or a buttplug	Jan 15 09:21
Sosumi	sry, but that is the truth	Jan 15 09:21
MinceR	:>	Jan 15 09:22
Guest2767	lol	Jan 15 09:28
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iophk	http://www.mercurynews.com/troy-wolverton/ci_24912880/wolverton-say-goodbye-internet-weve-known	Jan 15 09:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.mercurynews.com \| Wolverton: Say goodbye to the Internet we've known - San Jose Mercury News [ http://ur1.ca/gfbtp ]	Jan 15 09:44
iophk	bizarre - http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303848104579308313402913926	Jan 15 09:49
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Robert McDowell: A Victory for an Unfettered Internet - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfbvy ]	Jan 15 09:49
schestowitz	cheers	Jan 15 10:02
schestowitz	posted those two	Jan 15 10:02
schestowitz	I will do another post about net neutrality another day	Jan 15 10:02
iophk	probably worth mentioning Murdoch and co in that too.	Jan 15 10:03
schestowitz	right now the FP (8 posts) is today's articles, should I do more than 8 per day?	Jan 15 10:03
schestowitz	yes, I put that in the draft already	Jan 15 10:03
schestowitz	He's also mentioned in today's post about net neutrality	Jan 15 10:03
schestowitz	but it's not just him	Jan 15 10:03
schestowitz	earlier you linked to CNET	Jan 15 10:03
schestowitz	It was a weaik article, but then again CNET=CBS, Comcast etc.	Jan 15 10:03
schestowitz	I.e. cable companies	Jan 15 10:04
schestowitz	FAQ a wolf in sheep clothing	Jan 15 10:04
schestowitz	Media should rips apart this decision	Jan 15 10:04
schestowitz	but it doesn't	Jan 15 10:04
schestowitz	it's good for the big corporations, which also own mass media	Jan 15 10:04
iophk	yes, they are owned by the cable companies or those with interest against NN	Jan 15 10:04
schestowitz	Google is the exception, but Google decided to appease the ones at the tip, esp. after YouTube took off	Jan 15 10:05
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/net-neutrality-blown/	Jan 15 10:05
iophk	Did they bring in new people at that point, some who changed the company?	Jan 15 10:05
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| US Courts Are Cementing the Gradual Death of the World Wide Web (As We Know It) \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfc1o ]	Jan 15 10:05
schestowitz	Maybe, lawyers for example	Jan 15 10:12
schestowitz	ANd lobbyists, who are usually laywyers also	Jan 15 10:12
iophk	(05:03:13 PM) schestowitz: right now the FP (8 posts) is today's articles, should I do more than 8 per day?	Jan 15 10:18
iophk	8 per day is probably wise if there are a lot of people coming via the main page	Jan 15 10:18
iophk	If most are coming from elsewhere, then it might not matter so much.	Jan 15 10:18
schestowitz	http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/01/15/with-its-net-neutrality-case-against-verizon-the-fcc-loses-again/	Jan 15 10:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| With Its 'Net Neutrality' Case Against Verizon, The FCC Loses -- Again - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gfcel ]	Jan 15 10:32
schestowitz	Not just a matter of FP	Jan 15 10:33
schestowitz	Some might be seeing too many "unreads" in RSS	Jan 15 10:33
schestowitz	Maybe now is a good time for daily links batches	Jan 15 10:33
schestowitz	300k bytes worth in my drafts	Jan 15 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Taking the long view: Why I'm moving to CentOS	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	Linux on the desktop http://t.co/ZIdUu8g2xM	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg3	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	devices in Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/fRlie4ImXC	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg5	Jan 15 10:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Taking the long view: Why I'm moving to CentOS Linux on the desktop \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 10:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus devices in Ubuntu Touch \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines No Ubuntu Touch phones before 2015, Canonical	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	manager warns http://t.co/ovAcGahBGB	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg6	Jan 15 10:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| No Ubuntu Touch phones before 2015, Canonical manager warns \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@fakenowee @tuxmachines http://t.co/8ZoqsQcqD2	Jan 15 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfcg8	Jan 15 10:35
TechrightsBot-tr	301 redirect without Location header	Jan 15 10:35
schestowitz	iophk: http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/linux-domination-in-devices/	Jan 15 10:41
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Latest Examples of Linux Domination in Devices/Embedded Systems \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfck2 ]	Jan 15 10:41
iophk	thks	Jan 15 10:44
iophk	The feed sees a little behind though	Jan 15 10:46
iophk	maybe that's just caching	Jan 15 10:47
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/rise-of-gnu-linux/	Jan 15 10:50
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Links: Rise of GNU/Linux in the News \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfcq5 ]	Jan 15 10:50
schestowitz	caching, probably	Jan 15 10:50
schestowitz	varnish	Jan 15 10:50
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MinceR	http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3238	Jan 15 11:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.smbc-comics.com \| Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal	Jan 15 11:10
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521482	Jan 15 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@meneer@pod.orkz.net: Dutch government advises to cover your webcam, here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i841CamEX3o (Dutch gov notification: http://nos.nl/video/597900-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html )	Jan 15 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Webcam [Official Short Film] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4a ]	Jan 15 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> nos.nl \| Justitie: plak je webcam af - NOS Nieuws [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4b ]	Jan 15 11:30
schestowitz	They assume you use Windows	Jan 15 11:30
Sosumi	windows are great	Jan 15 11:52
Sosumi	you open them in the morning	Jan 15 11:52
Sosumi	and let fresh air in	Jan 15 11:52
Sosumi	:P	Jan 15 11:52
schestowitz	windows makers should sue Microsoft	Jan 15 12:01
schestowitz	!google spam company sues over name	Jan 15 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Daniel Balsam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Balsam	Jan 15 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - LinkedIn Sues After Scraping Of User Data - InformationWeek \| http://www.informationweek.com/software/social/linkedin-sues-after-scraping-of-user-data/d/d-id/1113362	Jan 15 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Man quits job, makes living suing spammers - Technology & science ... \| http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40812560/ns/technology_and_science-security/	Jan 15 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Chattanooga philanthropist sued over spam text messages \| Times ... \| http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jul/31/local-payday-lending-businesses-face-lawsuit/	Jan 15 12:01
schestowitz	don't know how to search for it	Jan 15 12:02
schestowitz	but the original product, spam, had its company sue over the name	Jan 15 12:02
Sosumi	:)	Jan 15 12:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Techrights Links Roundups	Jan 15 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9rKtQKlmNv	Jan 15 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfdic	Jan 15 12:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Techrights Links Roundups \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Launches Test Drives on AWS	Jan 15 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KmejfHjnOt	Jan 15 12:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Launches Test Drives on AWS \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/423502364725633025	Jan 15 12:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423505882031595520	Jan 15 12:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Jacob Appelbaum's talk made it sound as though #Nightstand was a rarely used tool, not attached to ~100,000 nodes/points.	Jan 15 12:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lastwheel/status/423506122717143041	Jan 15 12:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@lastwheel: .@schestowitz @RancidTarzie ^ Drip, drip, drip.	Jan 15 12:28
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schestowitz__	"use Abrowser... it's the one that comes wThey are, by the way, but their genius is in marketing and shrewd and rapid idea theft more than innovation."7"ith Trsiquel GNU/Linux... fully free (as in freedom) software. Abrowser is just like firefox but only with free as in freedom add-ons"	Jan 15 13:02
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3518348	Jan 15 13:02
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Are large screen Android phones destroying the iPhone? http://m.itworld.com/open-source/399832/are-large-screen-android-phones-destroying-iphone	Jan 15 13:02
TechrightsBot-tr	-> m.itworld.com \| Are large screen Android phones destroying the iPhone? \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gfe2v ]	Jan 15 13:03
schestowitz__	"Meh. Apple will bring out the "iPhone+" or whatever next with no changes but a bigger screen, and all the party faithful will chant in unison how revolutionary it is and that Apple is a genius of a company."	Jan 15 13:03
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520351	Jan 15 13:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Home control hub offers Siri-like voice assistant http://linuxgizmos.com/home-automation-hub-offers-siri-like-voice-assistant/ linux based	Jan 15 13:03
TechrightsBot-tr	-> linuxgizmos.com \| Home control hub offers Siri-like voice assistant · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfe33 ]	Jan 15 13:03
schestowitz__	wo ist der Haken? Min Bauchgefühl sagt "Haken""77"	Jan 15 13:03
schestowitz__	"was macht man damit so?"	Jan 15 13:04
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3519530	Jan 15 13:11
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical posts a $21 million loss – is Ubuntu’s future doomed? http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/canonical-posts-21-million-loss-ubuntus-future-doomed/19370 http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/ubuntu-maker-boosted-revenue-in-2013-but-doubled-loss-to-21-million/ #canonical #ubuntu	Jan 15 13:11
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Canonical posts a $21 million loss - is Ubuntu's future doomed? \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gf7mf ]	Jan 15 13:11
TechrightsBot-tr	-> arstechnica.com \| Ubuntu maker boosted revenue in 2013 but doubled loss to $21 million \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfe6v ]	Jan 15 13:11
schestowitz__	Get tied up with anti-publishers, go straight to the bottom. Your revenues may rise but they won't meet your cost because the game is rigged."77"	Jan 15 13:11
schestowitz__	"#Karma"	Jan 15 13:12
schestowitz__	"“the UK report is not a representation of the situation of Canonical across our global operations” and "One of the biggest revenue earners in the past year has been China.""	Jan 15 13:12
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Sosumi	just finished watching "her"	Jan 15 13:14
Sosumi	from a review sample that was available on the pbay	Jan 15 13:15
Sosumi	my thoughts on the thing	Jan 15 13:15
Sosumi	I've said it before that the future of OS's would be in the form of "personal assistant"	Jan 15 13:16
Sosumi	think of it like apple's siri on steroids	Jan 15 13:16
Sosumi	but aside the dumb plot about a social inept dude	Jan 15 13:17
Sosumi	everything there can be taken or derived from ghost in the shell	Jan 15 13:17
Sosumi	and believe me, it has a much better plot	Jan 15 13:18
Sosumi	jeaun braudilard's simulacra and simulacrum can be also put in the contest	Jan 15 13:19
Sosumi	as well norbert wiener's cybernetics and its forks	Jan 15 13:19
Sosumi	in the end, so much fuss for nothing	Jan 15 13:20
Sosumi	50 out of 100 just for the effort	Jan 15 13:21
Sosumi	plus one thing that I found extremely retarded	Jan 15 13:23
Sosumi	if the AI in the movie has enough processing power available, not locally, since all you see are the example of dumb terminals	Jan 15 13:24
Sosumi	as well the capacity to optimize itself and learn	Jan 15 13:25
Sosumi	why wouldn't it design a body for itself? overcoming that way all limitations of being confined just in the digital sphere but also at the mercy of a power outage	Jan 15 13:26
Sosumi	or data corruption	Jan 15 13:26
Sosumi	and keeping in that body a copy of itself	Jan 15 13:27
Sosumi	3d printing biological tissue is coming sooner or later	Jan 15 13:27
Sosumi	dumb, dumb and mind numbingly boring	Jan 15 13:28
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/critical-microsoft-adobe-and-oracle-updates-like-dental-floss-for-your-pc/	Jan 15 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Critical Microsoft, Adobe, and Oracle updates: Like dental floss for your PC \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfee6 ]	Jan 15 13:29
Sosumi	also don't forget to update your winblows and OSsuX	Jan 15 13:29
MinceR	get the latest security holes	Jan 15 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla just got its first Firefox OS tablets	Jan 15 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	from Foxconn http://t.co/PYPeIiWyj4	Jan 15 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfejd	Jan 15 13:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla just got its first Firefox OS tablets from Foxconn \| Tux Machines	Jan 15 13:47
Sosumi	no	Jan 15 13:50
Sosumi	the latest NSA/CIA/GCHQ/etc. backdoors	Jan 15 13:51
MinceR	that too	Jan 15 13:53
schestowitz__	gotta catch those child pr0n perverts...	Jan 15 13:56
schestowitz__	!google nsa watches porn habits	Jan 15 13:56
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits As Part ... \| http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.html	Jan 15 13:56
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - NSA spied on porn habits, HuffPo reports - USA Today \| http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/27/nsa-spied-porn-habits/3765279/	Jan 15 13:56
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - NSA 'spied on porn habits to target radicalisers' \| World news ... \| http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/27/nsa-files-live-coverage-developments-reaction	Jan 15 13:56
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Report: NSA tracks online porn habits to discredit Muslim ... \| http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/11/27/nsa-records-onlinesexualactivitypornhabitsofmuslimradicalizers.html	Jan 15 13:56
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520541	Jan 15 13:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: “Normandy” is Not an #Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced #Surveillance Device http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/turning-users-into-products/ #Trojan horse measuring as a phone	Jan 15 13:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| “Normandy” is Not an Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced Surveillance Device \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfem4 ]	Jan 15 13:57
schestowitz__	"OT: One of the things I like about your website is that no matter how disgusting the disclosures in the articles are, there's alway a happily smiling guy with a cup of coffee next to them :-)"	Jan 15 13:57
schestowitz__	Haha, gotta stay positive	Jan 15 13:57
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 13:58
schestowitz__	Sounds like it'll be a flop. ... Why buy this one when the next shelf has an array of Samsung Androind phones that work.	Jan 15 13:58
Sosumi	http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs31/f/2008/222/e/3/Lolimon_Gotta_catch_em_all_by_larskri.jpg	Jan 15 13:58
schestowitz__	(not that any cellphone isn't a tracking device these days)	Jan 15 13:58
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 13:58
Sosumi	"gotta catch em all darn pokemon"	Jan 15 13:58
MinceR	lol	Jan 15 13:59
MinceR	VDs, gotta catch 'em all!	Jan 15 13:59
Sosumi	looking at that I think we need a maid café here in portugal	Jan 15 14:01
Sosumi	which would be the best way to catch all pedos	Jan 15 14:01
Sosumi	no need for stalking on the internet	Jan 15 14:01
Sosumi	:P	Jan 15 14:02
Sosumi	well, better than having them stalking those child protection centers	Jan 15 14:19
Sosumi	like we had in the past with "Casa Pia Scandal"	Jan 15 14:19
Sosumi	*the	Jan 15 14:19
schestowitz__	http://i.imgur.com/8aQIjA3.jpg	Jan 15 14:20
Sosumi	!google casa pia scandal	Jan 15 14:20
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521205	Jan 15 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Casa Pia child sexual abuse scandal - Wikipedia, the free ... \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Pia_child_sexual_abuse_scandal	Jan 15 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Casa Pia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Pia	Jan 15 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Why Portugal is a haven for paedophiles - the disturbing backcloth ... \| http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488654/Why-Portugal-haven-paedophiles--disturbing-backcloth-Madeleine-case.html	Jan 15 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Guilty after six-year trial, Portugal's high-society paedophile ring ... \| http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/guilty-after-sixyear-trial-portugals-highsociety-paedophile-ring-2070112.html	Jan 15 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wolverton: Say goodbye to the Internet we've known	Jan 15 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.mercurynews.com \| Wolverton: Thanks to net neutrality ruling say goodbye to the Internet we've known - San Jose Mercury News [ http://ur1.ca/gfbtp ]	Jan 15 14:20
Sosumi	lol at point 3	Jan 15 14:20
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521246	Jan 15 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus devices in Ubuntu Touch http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/canonical-no-longer-supporting-most-nexus-devices-in-ubuntu-touch/ http://www.androidauthority.com/only-nexus-4-nexus-7-2013-ubuntu-touch-support-334718/	Jan 15 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr	-> androidandme.com \| Canonical no longer supporting most Nexus devices in Ubuntu Touch \| Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gfexn ]	Jan 15 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.androidauthority.com \| Only Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013) to continue to receive Ubuntu Touch support [ http://ur1.ca/gfexo ]	Jan 15 14:21
schestowitz__	I think they need to do what Mozilla did. Partner up with a couple companies. Make a range of low- middle- and high-spec phones compatible with Ubuntu Touch. For fuck sake, the hardware requirements include an ARM Cortex A9. I'm sorry. But that shit is expensive. Instead of stopping support for certain devices, they need to figure out what's in their OS that they don't need. Make it work lighter. Come to think of it, the Unity DE	Jan 15 14:21
schestowitz__	could use this as well.""	Jan 15 14:21
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520889	Jan 15 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whatever the #nsa is doing is basically opening the door for #russia #china etc. to do the same. West leads in digital rights violations.	Jan 15 14:21
schestowitz__	"Western companies built the censorship networks in China. Making that tyranny stronger gave us cheap labor. That cheap labor damaged all of our rights. It is not surprising that the owners of those companies now want to finish the job at home."	Jan 15 14:21
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521998	Jan 15 14:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: “Normandy” is Not an Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced Surveillance Device http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/turning-users-into-products/	Jan 15 14:24
schestowitz__	"burn. also, at the moment both apple, microsoft and google are guilty of creating enhanced surveillance devices."	Jan 15 14:24
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| “Normandy” is Not an Android Phone, It’s an Enhanced Surveillance Device \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfem4 ]	Jan 15 14:24
schestowitz__	"What does "cancer incidents serve well" mean?"	Jan 15 14:26
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Americana777/status/423536298259787776	Jan 15 14:26
TechrightsBot-tr	@Americana777: @schestowitz What does "cancer incidents serve well" mean?	Jan 15 14:26
schestowitz__	If the NSA (et al.) inadvertently gives cancer to those whom it spies on, then that serves its agenda well, too.	Jan 15 14:27
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520362	Jan 15 14:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: O’Donovan calls for crackdown on internet browsers and payment systems which facilitate illegal activity http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/index.xml FOSS FUD	Jan 15 14:28
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2013/odonovan-calls-for-crackd/index.xml )	Jan 15 14:28
schestowitz__	"Okay is all legal payment legal?"	Jan 15 14:28
schestowitz__	Some people call payments to those whom they don't agree with "illegal", e.g. payments to Wikileaks	Jan 15 14:28
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520345	Jan 15 14:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Epiphany-Web-Browser-Now-Uses-HTTPS-for-Google-Searches-by-Default-416947.shtml why use Google at all?	Jan 15 14:29
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default [ http://ur1.ca/gff0w ]	Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz__	Right Roy !! :)	Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz__	@Beta Idoru more precisely : GNOME is part of the GNU Project and can be used with various Unix-like operating systems, most notably GNU/Linux. Initially, "GNOME" was an acronym of GNU Network Object Model Environment, referring to the original intention of creating a distributed object framework similar to Microsoft's OLE; it was dropped, because this no longer reflects the core vision of the GNOME project... But the "G" is always	Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz__	for GNU.	Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz__	Why did you talk about Google instead of GNU ?	Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz__	Roy asked "why use Google at all".	Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz__	Because I used to work directly or indirectly with different paid Gnome developers on different projects - thus I have shared my opinion. GNU ideals ends up where G money from Google comes.	Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz__	I answered - when you don't know what is this about - this is always about the money.	Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz__	"Julien, thanks for answering and clarifying. I am using exclusively Linux based desktop last 12 years, so it is funny for me read this :)"	Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz__	"And on the other side, right now we don't have really alternative to Google search - even projects like DuckDuckGo are using Google under the neath.... Is there are nice open source accurate search system?"	Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz__	"Yacy, but it currently does not deliver the same quality in result and as it is P2P based, it's slower. But the more people use it, the better it gets."	Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz__	"Cool. Going to check!"	Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	@Beta Idoru, Yes, that's true Google is one of the most efficient search engine. And as you said We don't have any choice except some projects like DuckGo (even if it uses results form Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc in ecrypted/anonymous mode).	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	The fact is Epiphany Web Browser developers made a choice : for Google Searches, Epyphany uses HTTPS by default	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	But there is no link between Gnome and Google. Even if the default seach engine is Google (because its fame I guess), Now you can change the default search engine of course :)	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	Well about Google and Co there are others search engines but they are not too efficient I think.	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	By my side, for the moment I use exclusively DuckGo or encrypted.google.com through DuckGo	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	I don't trust too much DuckGo neither.... I am digging now Yacy and https://search.viewskew.com	Jan 15 14:31
TechrightsBot-tr	search.viewskew.com \| searx	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	Using services who are using Google as their base is just trying to paint grass to look more green - IMHO...	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	'	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	DuckGo don't use only Google, you know. In fact Google and Co know someone searches something at a moment of the day BUT they don't know who.	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	Thanks for Yacy, I didn't know it :)	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	http://www.alexanderhanff.com/duckduckgone	Jan 15 14:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alexanderhanff.com \| Still trust DuckDuckGo? \| www.alexanderhanff.com [ http://ur1.ca/eephr ]	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	If not using Google - how they generate search results? They indexed internet by themselves?	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	"ok thanks for informations :)"	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	Actually this looks awesome: https://duckduckgo.com/goodies	Jan 15 14:31
TechrightsBot-tr	duckduckgo.com \| DuckDuckGo Goodies	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	What about my question from point number "2" - how they perform search?	Jan 15 14:31
schestowitz__	"	Jan 15 14:32
schestowitz__	"With ads (linked with google), google-adwords, google-ads on/inside pages ... unfortunately"	Jan 15 14:32
schestowitz__	"Yes it looks awsome indeed"	Jan 15 14:32
schestowitz__	DuckDuckGo is very bad for privacy. Don't even visit the site. It's Amazon-hosted (i.e. CIA) and it pretends to be about privacy while offering little of it and demonstrating many other problems. In the course of 2 years I found about a dozen others.	Jan 15 14:33
schestowitz__	Use ixquick dot com.	Jan 15 14:33
MinceR	is there a list of those problems, besides the amazon-hosting and the yahoo/microsoft usage?	Jan 15 14:35
schestowitz__	Yes	Jan 15 14:36
schestowitz__	but not in TR	Jan 15 14:36
schestowitz__	Will Hill wrote a good summary	Jan 15 14:36
Sosumi	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2539970/The-sixth-sense-DEBUNKED-Psychic-powers-not-exist-just-trick-brain-claims-stud.html	Jan 15 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.dailymail.co.uk \| Psychic powers don't exist and are just a trick of the brain, claims study \| Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gff2j ]	Jan 15 14:36
schestowitz__	!google will kill duckduckgo	Jan 15 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Can DuckDuckGo kill Google? - IVPN Blog \| https://www.ivpn.net/blog/can-duckduckgo-kill-google	Jan 15 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Google tracks you. We don't. An illustrated guide. \| http://donttrack.us/	Jan 15 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Another reason to use duckduckgo - How Google is Killing Organic ... \| http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2013/07/another-reason-to-use-duckduckgo-how-google-is-killing-organic-search/	Jan 15 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - DuckDuckGo app for Windows in the Windows Store - Microsoft \| http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/duckduckgo/d526ba1b-a065-4cb9-a6c6-bf30f6123e2b	Jan 15 14:36
schestowitz__	LLOL	Jan 15 14:36
schestowitz__	Windows Storee	Jan 15 14:36
schestowitz__	Endorsed by MS	Jan 15 14:36
schestowitz__	Uses MS	Jan 15 14:36
Sosumi	no one's saying "jesus told me that psychic powers don't exist"	Jan 15 14:37
Sosumi	?	Jan 15 14:37
Sosumi	lol	Jan 15 14:37
schestowitz__	http://173.21.64.166/~willhill/	Jan 15 14:38
TechrightsBot-tr	173.21.64.166 \| Will Hill's Homebox Home Page	Jan 15 14:38
Sosumi	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/01/how-opt-out-gmails-google-plus-integration	Jan 15 14:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eff.org \| How To Opt Out of Gmail's Google Plus Integration \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gfe92 ]	Jan 15 14:38
MinceR	Sosumi: my psychic powers told me jesus doesn't exist! checkmate!	Jan 15 14:38
Sosumi	God told me through his only begotten sun, that it is all in your head	Jan 15 14:40
Sosumi	*son	Jan 15 14:40
Sosumi	lol	Jan 15 14:40
Sosumi	mine's better	Jan 15 14:40
schestowitz__	I can;t f	Jan 15 14:41
schestowitz__	ind the article anywhere https://plus.google.com/113579520393333767984/about	Jan 15 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr	plus.google.com \| Will Hill - About - Google+	Jan 15 14:41
MinceR	i've found some related things	Jan 15 14:42
schestowitz__	I haven't	Jan 15 14:48
schestowitz__	I feel like I wasted 10 minutes	Jan 15 14:48
schestowitz__	I approached the search in all sorts of ways	Jan 15 14:48
schestowitz__	it's a very lonh article he put together, linking a lot to us as well	Jan 15 14:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521671	Jan 15 14:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To become undetectable the #nsa radio frequencies would probably have to be very high -- high enough to ionize the atoms in a strand of DNA.	Jan 15 14:48
schestowitz__	"Low frequency xray does not travel well. I don't know about terahertz waves, but they are not ionizing. The damage done by microwaves and terahertz waves is different from that done by ionization. I've read that microwaves can missalign or break critical structures at cell division by magnetic force. That's not the same as the direct damage done by the formation of radicals by ionization. The results may be the same, but the	Jan 15 14:49
schestowitz__	mechanism is different."	Jan 15 14:49
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521523	Jan 15 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Dutch government advises to cover your webcam, here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i841CamEX3o (Dutch gov notification: http://nos.nl/video/597900-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html )	Jan 15 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Webcam [Official Short Film] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4a ]	Jan 15 14:49
schestowitz__	"lol, they were designed to give this power to their owners."	Jan 15 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> nos.nl \| Justitie: plak je webcam af - NOS Nieuws [ http://ur1.ca/gff56 ]	Jan 15 14:49
MinceR	he has a few comments on DDG at https://plus.google.com/+JeffJarvis/posts/5X7nHcjijsC	Jan 15 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr	plus.google.com \| Jeff Jarvis - Google+ - I'm appalled that I just got email from someone flacking… [ http://ur1.ca/e9f1w ]	Jan 15 14:49
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521906	Jan 15 14:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Our ability to share is often used as a tool against us. The wrong people are watching, listening and using it for their advantage. They can drown out the truth with broadcast, censor it on the internet and physically neutralize those telling it.	Jan 15 14:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> phys.org \| Study: Internet erodes democratic protections [ http://ur1.ca/gff61 ]	Jan 15 14:51
schestowitz__	'We are watching those 'wrong people' too. Populations are so far naive and we need to teach people to understand their communications convey power and to use that wisely. there is immense wisdom out there yet to be tapped"	Jan 15 14:51
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Americana777/status/423541051593224193	Jan 15 14:53
TechrightsBot-tr	@Americana777: @schestowitz Oh, thanks, I get it now. Know thy enemy & get rid (kill) of them too. Wish NSA used its power to destroy corruption instead.	Jan 15 14:53
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423546644484079616	Jan 15 15:07
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Obedience https://t.co/LLZrfGlsiq	Jan 15 15:07
iophk	nasty compression artifacts haven't they heard of GIF yet?	Jan 15 15:11
iophk	http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=net-neutrality-ruling-opens-door	Jan 15 15:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.scientificamerican.com \| "Net Neutrality" Ruling Opens Door for 2-Tiered Internet Market: Scientific American [ http://ur1.ca/gffc5 ]	Jan 15 15:13
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423547733173997568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423548081787772928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423548317545803776	Jan 15 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Stallman's love http://t.co/Ttls8zAcqJ	Jan 15 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Dog skiing https://t.co/ei7yRMzr8H rubs eyes	Jan 15 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Flat tire https://t.co/jS4tji7vpa	Jan 15 15:14
MinceR	not flat enough.	Jan 15 15:26
*MinceR gets the steamroller		Jan 15 15:26
iophk	http://act.freepress.net/sign/internet_FCC_court_decision2/	Jan 15 15:26
TechrightsBot-tr	act.freepress.net \| FreePress.net \| Tell the FCC: Restore Net Neutrality [ http://ur1.ca/gffk2 ]	Jan 15 15:26
schestowitz__	anti-Snowden trolls in Twitter, like the anti-Manning ones I used to see https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423550917565497345 https://twitter.com/SnowdenAss/status/423552651708469248	Jan 15 15:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: After drowning out the truth about #benzygler (apparently another #snowden but less successful) they jailed and killed him, it seems...	Jan 15 15:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@SnowdenAss: @schestowitz it wouldn't kill you to at least get his name right. Surname is Zygier, not Zygler. Do you also spell #Snowden as #Snowdin?	Jan 15 15:32
schestowitz__	He's being suicided in the press again http://www.timesofisrael.com/australia-fm-dont-call-settlements-illegal-under-international-law/	Jan 15 15:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.timesofisrael.com \| Australia FM: Don't call settlements illegal under international law \| The Times of Israel [ http://ur1.ca/gffra ]	Jan 15 15:34
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423550917565497345 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423554098475307008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423554335600287744	Jan 15 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #propaganda and #coverup imported from the nation with vested interests http://t.co/gluatE5Ari http://t.co/yeJnf15wD2	Jan 15 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.jpost.com \| UK picks up Israeli developed TV show about Prisoner X \| JPost \| Israel News	Jan 15 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.smh.com.au \| Tale of Israel's Prisoner X Ben Zygier is headed to television	Jan 15 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The corporate press is 'suiciding' a murdered man again and again, as if repeating the lie will somehow give it more legitimacy	Jan 15 15:37
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423550917565497345	Jan 15 15:37
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423555302374768640 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423555591156801536	Jan 15 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Is there an anti- #snowden #astroturf campaign kicking off at #twitter https://t.co/9mfdKsbALx there used to be such anti- #manning accounts	Jan 15 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> twitter.com \| SnowdenAss (SnowdenAss) on Twitter	Jan 15 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "The US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay has been caught conducting covert propaganda attacks on the internet." http://t.co/46NlFfumqR	Jan 15 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> wikileaks.org \| Wikileaks busts Gitmo propaganda team - WikiLeaks	Jan 15 15:42
iophk	http://www.thenation.com/blog/177915/fcc-can-and-must-prevent-segregated-internet	Jan 15 15:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.thenation.com \| The Internet As We Know It Is In Peril. The FCC Can (And Must) Save It \| The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/gffyw ]	Jan 15 15:44
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520345	Jan 15 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Epiphany-Web-Browser-Now-Uses-HTTPS-for-Google-Searches-by-Default-416947.shtml why use Google at all?	Jan 15 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default [ http://ur1.ca/gff0w ]	Jan 15 15:46
schestowitz__	"Ixquick is a metasearch engine based in New York and the Netherlands."	Jan 15 15:46
schestowitz__	New York?	Jan 15 15:46
schestowitz__	When did THAT happen?	Jan 15 15:46
schestowitz__	"ixquick uses google ads..."	Jan 15 15:47
schestowitz__	Where? If that's true, I'd like to see it.	Jan 15 15:47
schestowitz__	"host more Yacy Servers \o/ ;)"	Jan 15 15:47
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521482	Jan 15 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@meneer@pod.orkz.net: Dutch government advises to cover your webcam, here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i841CamEX3o (Dutch gov notification: http://nos.nl/video/597900-justitie-plak-je-webcam-af.html )	Jan 15 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Webcam [Official Short Film] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfd4a ]	Jan 15 15:48
schestowitz__	"Yes, is valid for most people :)"	Jan 15 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> nos.nl \| Justitie: plak je webcam af - NOS Nieuws [ http://ur1.ca/gffzu ]	Jan 15 15:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521726	Jan 15 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jacob Appelbaum's talk made it sound as though #Nightstand was a rarely used tool, not attached to ~100,000 nodes/points.	Jan 15 15:48
schestowitz__	"Yep, expensive. If they actually got warrants for it, I'd think it was OK. Their ordinary spying compromises hundreds of millions if not billions of people."	Jan 15 15:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521822	Jan 15 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@willhill@joindiaspora.com reshared: Now I think I can understand why Business Insider attacks #nsa critics. They're funded by Marc Andreeseen http://www.businessinsider.com/marc-andreessen-on-the-nsa-2014-1	Jan 15 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessinsider.com \| Marc Andreessen On The NSA - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gfe97 ]	Jan 15 15:48
schestowitz__	"So many bad guys and so little time ........... So what is the count so far on number of bad guys caught by NSA spying ......... is it greater than ZERO yet ? Odd world ....... as said just do it ..... the proof is in the results."	Jan 15 15:48
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schestowitz__	I have just checked page source and I see nothing like Google or any other domain (cross-site access)	Jan 15 15:51
schestowitz__	in izuick that is...	Jan 15 15:52
schestowitz__	ixquic.vom	Jan 15 15:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Americana777/status/423541051593224193	Jan 15 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr	@Americana777: @schestowitz Oh, thanks, I get it now. Know thy enemy & get rid (kill) of them too. Wish NSA used its power to destroy corruption instead.	Jan 15 15:54
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423558640516075520	Jan 15 15:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: It didn't take long for the lobbyist/mole who entered the #fcc to sell us all out http://t.co/t7r4YTWaep	Jan 15 15:59
MinceR	http://amultiverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/x2014-01-15-Hard-Evidence.jpg.pagespeed.ic.25qdqkdzz6.jpg	Jan 15 16:03
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423559903048105984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423560782933426176 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423561989378801664 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423562274511781888	Jan 15 16:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Video: US police murders man http://t.co/jdUl6XD6K7	Jan 15 16:18
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.latimes.com \| Full un-edited video presented in Kelly Thomas murder trial -- latimes.com	Jan 15 16:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The Jury showed empathy for violence in the #KellyThomas case - it doesn't matter. He was poor. He was asking for it. (sad sarcasm)	Jan 15 16:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: How #police works https://t.co/8gBAP1x8oP echoes my observations in the #uk - they sometimes arrest reporters of #crime	Jan 15 16:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: In the #uk when you phone the #police they say it's a crime to falsely report crimes; when you report the crime they do nothing. Pointless.	Jan 15 16:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423562526807568385 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423562763651530752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563145538723840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563333875552256	Jan 15 16:18
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The "bad" guys https://t.co/W1LDzfNTD8 and those who led to his death are held up as "justice"	Jan 15 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Not sure about the #fcc but I submitted numerous complaints to #ftc - they're a joke, they do nothing. Like police, just sit, eat all day.	Jan 15 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: We already know who the biggest criminals and villains are; they lobby hard for SOPA, ACTA, TPP. And they have army: http://t.co/bcnJtzzfhs	Jan 15 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	-> myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times	Jan 15 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Hard" working people https://t.co/qP0kGVkRMG	Jan 15 16:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563554617589760 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423563991278157824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423564304039030784	Jan 15 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Free software necessary for humanity https://t.co/T2IqBscaq7	Jan 15 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Spirit of MLK and Worldwide Wave, Hints of a Global Spring http://t.co/zfwPxE6n5R #tpp the last straw (looting)?	Jan 15 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.huffingtonpost.com \| Spirit of MLK and Worldwide Wave, Hints of a Global Spring \| Jacob Devaney	Jan 15 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Worth of lives https://t.co/Rqymn3qaJi	Jan 15 16:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423565324760645632	Jan 15 16:21
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Convenient illusions are said to be "necessary" because the world is cruel and unjust and those who can't relate usually just can't see it	Jan 15 16:21
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423567163090558976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423567755649228800	Jan 15 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Camouflage https://t.co/uWd62QPISm	Jan 15 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #TPP in plain English https://t.co/WPN4JevQUJ	Jan 15 16:32
Sosumi	TPP	Jan 15 16:33
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeDKNeXCUAAxFfL.jpg:large	Jan 15 16:33
Sosumi	15% import tax, specially if it is foreign sweat shop labored goods, tax financial transactions at the stock exchange and ban derivatives	Jan 15 16:36
Sosumi	should be a good start	Jan 15 16:36
Sosumi	instead of another free exploitation treaty	Jan 15 16:36
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522457	Jan 15 16:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Video: US police murders man http://www.latimes.com/videogallery/69846618/News/Full-un-edited-video-presented-in-Kelly-Thomas-murder-trial	Jan 15 16:36
schestowitz__	"Well it shows an utter disrespect for human life on both parts, the cops as well as the jury's."	Jan 15 16:36
schestowitz__	Sosumi: nice one	Jan 15 16:38
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc_Q5nrCcAEJVhC.png:large	Jan 15 16:38
schestowitz__	posted	Jan 15 16:38
Sosumi	beware of the lord of the tentacle	Jan 15 16:38
Sosumi	http://www.michaeljournal.org/images/octopus.jpg	Jan 15 16:38
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423568820528496640 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423568962992214016 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423569196208119808 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423569756533575680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423569878143209472	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: What open source means to a young programmer http://t.co/Hctk6ZHefk #freedom #programming #independence	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> opensource.com \| What open source means to a young programmer \| opensource.com	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Urgent Request for Funding OpenBSD HQ's Electricity http://t.co/hGieOHCsyQ #openbsd is getting weak and the foundation is too	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.undeadly.org \| Urgent Request for Funding OpenBSD HQ's Electricity	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: KDE SC 4.12 gets January update http://t.co/bF0CUd0IDG #kde #gnu #linux	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| KDE SC 4.12 gets January update \| Muktware	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Crushing us with #tpp https://t.co/wNEteQFs2E how much more will oligarchs get away with? http://t.co/92D6NsWS1d	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| I'm mad as Hell and I'm not going to take this anymore - YouTube	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: What #tpp does https://t.co/ZaDdwIW8IO	Jan 15 16:41
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/DebianBleat/status/423570343136329728	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@DebianBleat: @schestowitz Hi, you mention #programming and this img for you. HD http://t.co/xgPjIKfVGE #ruby http://t.co/dpLFxu1ptI	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> wallbase.cc \| Justin Maller abstract animals black background digital art wallpaper (#2940341) / Wallbase.cc	Jan 15 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@DebianBleat: @schestowitz Hi, you mention #programming and this img for you. HD http://t.co/xgPjIKfVGE #ruby http://t.co/dpLFxu1ptI	Jan 15 16:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522457	Jan 15 16:47
schestowitz__	"I'm not going to watch this, but it just seems like America in the world, being reflected in its own 'body'. Violence against weak, vulnerable goes, so long as 'we' can get away with it. The USA is a danger to itself, humanity, and life on this planet. We need a better model of "freedom", "democracy" and "justice" than "violence for profit"."	Jan 15 16:47
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521094	Jan 15 16:47
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NetNeutrality Quashed: New Pricing Schemes, Throttling, and Business Models to Follow http://www.technologyreview.com/news/523606/net-neutrality-quashed-new-pricing-schemes-throttling-and-business-models-to-follow/ http://techrights.org/2014/01/15/net-neutrality-blown/	Jan 15 16:47
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.technologyreview.com \| Net Neutrality Quashing Will Mean New Pricing Schemes, Throttling, and Business Models \| MIT Technology Review [ http://ur1.ca/gfaz8 ]	Jan 15 16:47
schestowitz__	"By the theory of change, he's the person to direct action at."	Jan 15 16:47
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| US Courts Are Cementing the Gradual Death of the World Wide Web (As We Know It) \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfc1o ]	Jan 15 16:47
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3521969	Jan 15 16:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: linux tablets from mozilla are coming http://www.geek.com/tablets/mozilla-just-got-its-first-firefox-os-tablets-from-foxconn-1582133/	Jan 15 16:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.geek.com \| Mozilla just got its first Firefox OS tablets from Foxconn \| Tablets \| Geek.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfdtp ]	Jan 15 16:48
schestowitz__	"I know they're probably no worse than other manufacturers, but it still seems like a shame that they'd be allying with one of the ones with the most worker's rights controversies surrounding them."	Jan 15 16:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423573792024449024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423574393768652800	Jan 15 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: How to complain about mobile filtering over-blocking https://t.co/9xmrD6X4ri Read: how to report illegal #censorship	Jan 15 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - How to complain about mobile filtering over-blocking	Jan 15 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #censorship of sites in the #eu by legal threats http://t.co/LZAkO5f2se	Jan 15 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.laquadrature.net \| Civil Society Calls on the ECHR's Grand Chamber to Overturn Delfi v. Estonia Ruling \| La Quadrature du Net	Jan 15 16:58
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423577098641747968 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423575286752739328 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423578584931110912 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423579224197566464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423579543509925888	Jan 15 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Assessing an evaluation of #gnu #linux distros to use http://t.co/rxCDtauv2i	Jan 15 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.itworld.com \| Best Linux distributions for 2014? \| ITworld	Jan 15 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Linux -powered telepresence robot gets personal http://t.co/GvCH3cVohl	Jan 15 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> linuxgizmos.com \| Linux-powered telepresence robot gets personal · LinuxGizmos.com	Jan 15 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Choice (same brand, many flavours) https://t.co/7ukvlwZtej	Jan 15 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Schools Have Become A Playground For Food And Beverage Marketing http://t.co/OIAHBsFQNO teaching them brands while they're young	Jan 15 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> thinkprogress.org \| Schools Have Become A Playground For Food And Beverage Marketing \| ThinkProgress	Jan 15 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: RMS meets Rahul Gandhi http://t.co/mvfeehpQtN will edit and release more #rms videos soon...	Jan 15 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.space-kerala.org \| RMS meets Rahul Gandhi \| Society For Promotion of Alternative Computing and Employment	Jan 15 17:23
Sosumi	http://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/wifi-bug-lets-nsa-cross-impentrable-air-gap/	Jan 15 17:33
TechrightsBot-tr	slashdot.org \| WiFi Bug Lets NSA Cross Impentrable Air Gap [ http://ur1.ca/gfhgk ]	Jan 15 17:34
Sosumi	"Under a program code-named Quantum, the NSA has been inserting tiny circuit boards or doctoring USB devices to create a new wireless network interface that can allow its operatives to remotely link to even air-gapped computers using coded signals, obscure frequencies and radio-signal relays that could be miles away from the target and sometimes occupy no more space than a briefcase, according to a Jan. 14 story in The New York Times. "	Jan 15 17:35
Sosumi	remember the movies "enemy of the state" and "eagle eye"?	Jan 15 17:36
Sosumi	predictive programming at best	Jan 15 17:36
Sosumi	eagle eye featured things like knowing the whereabouts of vehicles among other things	Jan 15 17:37
Sosumi	what do we know? manufacturers track your usage of the car through the built gps/electronics	Jan 15 17:38
Sosumi	I'm actually glad I have an old but functional car	Jan 15 17:38
MinceR	i remember a computer that for some obscure reason needed to look at a bunch of monitors using a camera	Jan 15 17:40
MinceR	as for the air gap: this is why i'm glad my raspberry pi has no built-in wi-fi or bluetooth (or other rf) interface	Jan 15 17:43
Sosumi	hipster computer then, relying on eavesdropping instead of taking over the system	Jan 15 17:43
MinceR	:>	Jan 15 17:43
Sosumi	real computers don't have built in wireless	Jan 15 17:43
MinceR	mobile ones do :>	Jan 15 17:44
MinceR	even wireless charging :>	Jan 15 17:44
Sosumi	not a single workstation grade board comes with wifi or bluetooth	Jan 15 17:44
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 17:44
Sosumi	usually only consumer stuff does	Jan 15 17:45
MinceR	hm, actually this new nsa stuff is about hidden extra circuits	Jan 15 17:45
MinceR	anything could have those, i guess	Jan 15 17:45
MinceR	time for the rise of free hardware, i guess	Jan 15 17:46
MinceR	maybe with faster fpga-based cpus and gpus	Jan 15 17:46
Sosumi	yes, but usually on normal boards there are no emi shields convering things up	Jan 15 17:46
Sosumi	like there are on boards with built radios	Jan 15 17:46
Sosumi	*built in	Jan 15 17:47
MinceR	which makes it scarier for boards you didn't expect to have radios	Jan 15 17:47
Sosumi	I think anything strange would be noticeable	Jan 15 17:47
Sosumi	you'd notice the antenas on the board	Jan 15 17:47
MinceR	not if they formed part of the wiring	Jan 15 17:48
Sosumi	disguised as wiring?	Jan 15 17:48
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 17:48
Sosumi	but even then, wouldn't the aluminum/steel case shield the entire thing?	Jan 15 17:48
MinceR	depends on a lot of things, i guess	Jan 15 17:49
MinceR	with the right kind of grounding, i imagine it could even use the case as an antenna	Jan 15 17:49
MinceR	or if there are large enough openings, it could communicate through those	Jan 15 17:49
MinceR	(unshielded stuff and such)	Jan 15 17:50
Sosumi	yes, with grounding is possible	Jan 15 17:50
Sosumi	unless you properly shield it	Jan 15 17:50
MinceR	also, there was a suspected hoax where someone talked about computers using ultrasound to bridge air gaps	Jan 15 17:50
Sosumi	nah, what I heard was using laser microfones to record keypressing sounds	Jan 15 17:51
MinceR	there's that	Jan 15 17:51
Sosumi	and then bruteforce the sounds into key presses	Jan 15 17:51
MinceR	i've heard of laser microphones, but not their use to record computer input	Jan 15 17:51
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/HansNiesund/status/423587476255830016	Jan 15 17:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@HansNiesund: @schestowitz ... Then look up the relevance of proximity under international law (none) and the principle of self-determination #falklands	Jan 15 17:52
Sosumi	what I am fearful is of poisoned silicon	Jan 15 17:53
MinceR	?	Jan 15 17:53
Sosumi	who knows what is inside those intel chips and bridges	Jan 15 17:53
Sosumi	poisoned silicon = hardware silicon	Jan 15 17:53
MinceR	hidden circuitry and backdoors or poisons that act on humans?	Jan 15 17:53
MinceR	(which could be released via heat, i guess)	Jan 15 17:53
Sosumi	fail, poisoned silicon = backdoor/vulnerability built into the hardware	Jan 15 17:54
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 17:54
Sosumi	just kind of ZZZzzzº	Jan 15 17:54
MinceR	gn	Jan 15 17:55
Sosumi	and so any code compiled on that hardware would inherit a vulnerability	Jan 15 17:55
MinceR	so, trusting trust attack initiated in hardware	Jan 15 17:55
Sosumi	and to turn matters worse intel moved in to encrypt their execution	Jan 15 17:56
MinceR	?	Jan 15 17:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423582737040437249 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423583194546712578 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423583398280822784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423584911564738560	Jan 15 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "government had deal with Mexican drug cartel Sinaloa that allowed the group to smuggle billion of dollars of drugs" http://t.co/ccawzdhM6s	Jan 15 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| NO TITLE	Jan 15 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Freemasons attempted to find out which detectives were suspected of links to organised" http://t.co/KolFcev9Zu welcome to #uk #police	Jan 15 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| Revealed: How gangs used the Freemasons to corrupt police - Crime - UK - The Independent	Jan 15 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: I know some high=level police officers in the #uk who are openly "Freemasons". I guess The Independent's report won't help them much.	Jan 15 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #uk follows the #china model not just when it comes to #censorship http://t.co/6Szpj351Zn	Jan 15 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| The lost girls: Department of Health to act on reports of illegal abortions by gender - Crime - UK - The Independent	Jan 15 17:58
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423585737075068928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423586285807468544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423587011690504193 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423587866032480256 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423589749505675265	Jan 15 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #China and #Philippines : The reasons why a battle for Zhongye (Pag-asa) Island seems unavoidable http://t.co/HNiy2jK4lH watch map...	Jan 15 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> chinadailymail.com \| China and Philippines: The reasons why a battle for Zhongye (Pag-asa) Island seems unavoidable \| China Daily Mail	Jan 15 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Watch the map of #uk #argentina and #falklands then decide whose territory it is https://t.co/JMJ8fNKonh	Jan 15 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> en.wikipedia.org \| Falklands War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	Jan 15 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Government accused of 'bribing local councils' on controversial fracking projects http://t.co/f1eksh3WUI #fracking #uk #crime #bribe	Jan 15 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| Government accused of 'bribing local councils' on controversial fracking projects - Environment - The Independent	Jan 15 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Monsanto announces high profits and major expansion across Latin America http://t.co/H9vYMqVSGf no execs in #jail yet	Jan 15 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| Monsanto announces high profits and major expansion across Latin America — RT USA	Jan 15 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Monsanto is one of the best examples I can think of when you wish to show that crime pays off. Reward for genocide, mortality, bribes, etc.	Jan 15 17:59
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522261	Jan 15 18:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Common wisdom in Western corporate media is that #china shows us what will come to us; I beg to differ: #uk / #us show what comes to world.	Jan 15 18:00
schestowitz__	"That's a neat trick, define the future by writing about something most people can't really check. I don't want the world to be like what people tell me China is. I want it even less to be what corporate media tells me it will be. We can make a better world than bullshit and oppression."	Jan 15 18:00
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3522773	Jan 15 18:01
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I know some high=level police officers in the #uk who are openly "Freemasons". I guess The Independent's report won't help them much.	Jan 15 18:01
schestowitz__	"there is a lot of politicians who are publicy known freemason in belgium"	Jan 15 18:01
Sosumi	I think I made some confusion with trusted execution	Jan 15 18:01
Sosumi	or not	Jan 15 18:01
Sosumi	!google trusted execution	Jan 15 18:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Trusted Execution Technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Execution_Technology	Jan 15 18:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Trusted Compute Pools with Intel® Trusted Execution Technology \| http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/trusted-execution-technology/malware-reduction-general-technology.html	Jan 15 18:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Intel® Trusted Execution Technology: White Paper \| http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/trusted-execution-technology/trusted-execution-technology-security-paper.html	Jan 15 18:01
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Trusted Execution Technology - Intel \| http://www.intel.com/technology/security	Jan 15 18:01
Sosumi	GN	Jan 15 18:05
schestowitz__	nn	Jan 15 18:10
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/meneer/status/423593199459119104	Jan 15 18:12
TechrightsBot-tr	@meneer: @piratenpartij volgen jullie @schestowitz al? En zitten jullie op een #diaspora* pod?	Jan 15 18:12
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423591382218194946 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423593100779335681 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423593234439630850 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423594005067497472	Jan 15 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "When software is open, its strengths and weaknesses are visible to everyone." http://t.co/p58Rr1m22w	Jan 15 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.pirateparty.org.uk \| Opinion: What you dont see you dont care, but you should - Pirate Party UK	Jan 15 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." -- Orwell	Jan 15 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Security https://t.co/VHGc4uaLiN	Jan 15 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: When man attacks corporation it's a crime. When corporation attacks many men (and women) it's "a mystery" http://t.co/pGdZGPTOKZ	Jan 15 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thenation.com \| West Virginia ERs Report an Influx of Patients After Water Deemed Safe \| The Nation	Jan 15 18:15
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423595242483646464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423598149564104704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423598904073261056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423599161137975296 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423599853470355456	Jan 15 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Jono says 2014 http://t.co/hsMH4pA3ru just 2 days later: http://t.co/SFiDZHPF1V	Jan 15 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thinkdigit.com \| New Ubuntu phones to be launched in 2014 - Mobile Phone News \| ThinkDigit	Jan 15 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.ubergizmo.com \| Ubuntu Touch Phone Not Expected Until 2015 \| Ubergizmo	Jan 15 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "Tizen is designed to be a low-cost, highly configurable OS" http://t.co/fP0PjswtPi #linux #tizen #mobile #intel #nokia #samsung	Jan 15 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.linuxinsider.com \| What's Up With Tizen? \| Mobile \| LinuxInsider	Jan 15 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #obama is having a /#bush (not senior) moment https://t.co/j1HAznkRnf #nsa #NotATyrant	Jan 15 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Another OpenGL 4.2 Extension Is Hitting Mesa http://t.co/IhXcITxegH #opengl #mesa #linux	Jan 15 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Another OpenGL 4.2 Extension Is Hitting Mesa	Jan 15 18:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: 'Educated' Black Men Appear 'Whiter' in Memory http://t.co/POHrRF2i5J says a lot about #stigma	Jan 15 18:40
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.nationaljournal.com \| 'Educated' Black Men Appear 'Whiter' in Memory - NationalJournal.com	Jan 15 18:40
schestowitz__	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians	Jan 15 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Indigenous Australians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gfibb ]	Jan 15 18:57
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423608326388482049 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423608876643401728	Jan 15 19:13
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #FISA Court Judges Say They Don't Want Any Changes To How The Rubber Stamp Court Is Run http://t.co/9AW7uS7BnW secret courts=corruption	Jan 15 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.techdirt.com \| FISA Court Judges Say They Don't Want Any Changes To How The Rubber Stamp Court Is Run \| Techdirt	Jan 15 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #alexnader lied to Congress and others (inc. oversight) just like #clapper - numerous times in fact. When will they be put in prison? #nsa	Jan 15 19:14
schestowitz__	"There is a lot of propaganda in the corporate media right now regarding community self-defense groups (“autodefensas”) in Mexico."	Jan 15 19:17
schestowitz__	http://www.interference.cc/propaganda-surrounding-vigilante-groups-in-southern-mexico-autodefensas/	Jan 15 19:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.interference.cc \| Deconstructing recent propaganda surrounding “vigilante groups” in Southern Mexico \| Interference [ http://ur1.ca/gfiff ]	Jan 15 19:17
schestowitz__	Trolling with "gates"http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/79774.html	Jan 15 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.linuxinsider.com \| Red Hat and CentOS: A Great Thing or a Gates Thing? \| Community \| LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/gfifo ]	Jan 15 19:18
schestowitz__	quoting anti-FOSS troll "hairyfeet"	Jan 15 19:19
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DaemonFC`	shared a link via AlterNet.	Jan 15 20:14
DaemonFC`	about a minute ago · Edited	Jan 15 20:14
DaemonFC`	http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/15/virginia-gop-candidate-spousal-rape-isnt-a-crime-if-she-is-wearing-a-nightie/	Jan 15 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.rawstory.com \| Virginia GOP candidate: Spousal rape isn’t a crime if she is ‘wearing a nightie’ \| The Raw Story [ http://ur1.ca/gfipu ]	Jan 15 20:14
DaemonFC`	Someone mentioned this on Amazon without a link. So, someone asked for a link. The person who originally posted said to google it. The person that asked for a link says "I'm not typing 'Dick Black' into Google.".	Jan 15 20:15
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DaemonFC	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU3MjE	Jan 15 21:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] OpenBSD Foundation At Risk Of Shutting Down [ http://ur1.ca/gfj72 ]	Jan 15 21:38
DaemonFC	"The OpenBSD Foundation is running into a situation of lack of funding to the point that they can't even cover their electricity costs and may be forced to suspend or reduce their operations without additional help. "	Jan 15 21:38
DaemonFC	"So far no company has come forward to sponsor their electricity needs."	Jan 15 21:40
DaemonFC	And no company will. They're like Apple. They take the software and run. Make it proprietary.	Jan 15 21:40
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DaemonFC	schestowitz__: http://www.alternet.org/economy/apple-meets-its-worst-nightmare-federally-appointed-antitrust-lawyer-hell-bent-doing-his-job	Jan 15 22:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alternet.org \| Apple Meets Its Worst Nightmare: Federally Appointed Antitrust Lawyer Hell-Bent on Doing His Job \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gfjix ]	Jan 15 22:43
DaemonFC	You might want to link to that.	Jan 15 22:43
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx148UL9TRWO94L	Jan 15 23:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: [crApple] meets their worst enemy. An antitrust investigator that is determined to do his job. [ http://ur1.ca/gfjn4 ]	Jan 15 23:05
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DaemonFC	According to Clarity Ray, the following percentage of users of each browser block ads.	Jan 16 02:01
DaemonFC	Chrome: 19%	Jan 16 02:01
DaemonFC	Firefox: 18.3%, Safari 11.3%, Opera: 7.76%, and IE 3.86%	Jan 16 02:01
DaemonFC	I got a hacked version of Candy Crush for my phone.	Jan 16 02:18
DaemonFC	It allows any move you want to make. LOL	Jan 16 02:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/423632548481085440	Jan 16 03:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@Morality124: @schestowitz I choose #XFCE :)	Jan 16 03:14
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/pavithrans/status/423618966863355905	Jan 16 03:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@pavithrans: @schestowitz Glad that someone went to details to explain the difference in the #gnome old and new #linux :)	Jan 16 03:14
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DaemonFC	http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&m=104197092318639&w=2	Jan 16 05:07
TechrightsBot-tr	lists.kde.org \| '(fwd) Greetings from the Safari team at Apple Computer' - MARC [ http://ur1.ca/gflwi ]	Jan 16 05:07
DaemonFC	"We've	Jan 16 05:07
DaemonFC	also made significant enhancements, bug fixes, and performance	Jan 16 05:07
DaemonFC	improvements to KHTML and KJS."	Jan 16 05:08
DaemonFC	Like making it 1,000 times bigger and slower.	Jan 16 05:08
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iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/dotcoms-internet-party-aims-to-shake-up-politics-140115/	Jan 16 05:25
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Dotcom’s ‘Internet Party’ Aims to Shake Up Politics \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gflzl ]	Jan 16 05:25
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/dotcoms-internet-party-aims-to-shake-up-politics-140115/	Jan 16 05:29
iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/14/kim-dotcom-megaupload-pirate-innovator-dance-album-interview	Jan 16 05:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Kim Dotcom: 'I'm not a pirate, I'm an innovator' \| Technology \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gfm07 ]	Jan 16 05:29
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/whodunit-hyper-v-failure-may-reveal-fabled-escape-attack-234164	Jan 16 05:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Whodunit: A Hyper-V failure may reveal fabled 'escape attack' \| Microsoft Windows - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gfm0s ]	Jan 16 05:33
Sosumi	safari? that browser that at this point still shokes on pages with tons of gifs	Jan 16 05:35
Sosumi	and randomly crashes	Jan 16 05:35
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/net-neutrality-we-need-hero-the-unlikeliest-of-places-234261	Jan 16 05:35
iophk	can conflict of interest be overcome?	Jan 16 05:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Net neutrality: We need a hero, from the unlikeliest of places \| Data Center - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gfm0x ]	Jan 16 05:35
Sosumi	without generating a crash report	Jan 16 05:35
Sosumi	awesome! better dump their contribution ASAP	Jan 16 05:35
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iophk	old - http://www.thelocal.se/20140107/hitler-furious-at-swedish-ministers-satire-mishap	Jan 16 05:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.thelocal.se \| 'Hitler furious' at Swedish minister's satire mishap - The Local [ http://ur1.ca/gfm4t ]	Jan 16 05:53
Sosumi	I guess that I was right all along by pulling an one man effort without relying on external institutions for research funding	Jan 16 05:56
Sosumi	massive cuts in research and on paid scholarships just announced	Jan 16 05:56
Sosumi	got to love austerity	Jan 16 05:57
Sosumi	perhaps now I should build a terminator that instead of wanting to kill Sarah Connor	Jan 16 05:58
Sosumi	it kills bankers and dirty politicians	Jan 16 05:58
Sosumi	http://www.tsf.pt/PaginaInicial/Portugal/Interior.aspx?content_id=3634516&utm_source=dlvr.it	Jan 16 05:59
Sosumi	from TSF	Jan 16 05:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tsf.pt \| Bolseiros de Investigação Científica denunciam cortes brutais em bolsas - TSF [ http://ur1.ca/gfmah ]	Jan 16 05:59
Sosumi	join the EU they said, or you'll be left behind they said	Jan 16 06:05
Sosumi	you'll be walking around in greek togas they said, join our utopia they said	Jan 16 06:06
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iophk	https://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/10-security-privacy-issues-you-might-not-know-about-your-car%E2%80%99s-auto-location-services	Jan 16 06:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.networkworld.com \| 10 security, privacy issues you might not know about your car’s auto-location services [ http://ur1.ca/gfmk2 ]	Jan 16 06:14
DaemonFC	I just pirated NFS Hot Pursuit for my phone.	Jan 16 06:49
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 16 06:49
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schestowitz	Energy/Climate Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/pollution-weather-environmental-issues/ #energy #climate #environment #wildlife	Jan 16 06:52
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Energy/Climate Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfmsa ]	Jan 16 06:52
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schestowitz	Economic Disparity Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/economic-disparity/ #finance #economy #uk #portugal #eu #bitcoin	Jan 16 06:54
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Economic Disparity Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfmu1 ]	Jan 16 06:54
schestowitz	Covert Action Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/covert-action-watch/ #mi6 #cia #mexico #russia #china #korea	Jan 16 07:02
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Covert Action Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn3p ]	Jan 16 07:02
schestowitz	Police Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/police-watch-january-2014/ #police #uk #us #australia #germany #argentina	Jan 16 07:07
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Police Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn4g ]	Jan 16 07:07
schestowitz	Torture Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/torture-watch-january-2014/ #torture #interrogation #abuse #humanrights	Jan 16 07:11
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Torture Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn4t ]	Jan 16 07:11
schestowitz	Drones Watch: January 2014 http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/drones-watch-january-2014/ #drones #nsa #cia #assassination #pakistan #iraq #yemen	Jan 16 07:12
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Drones Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfn4x ]	Jan 16 07:12
iophk	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2429536,00.asp	Jan 16 07:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcmag.com \| The Remarkable Intel NUC \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfn64 ]	Jan 16 07:19
iophk	Those universities that have moved to "cloud" based services have really put their head in a noose since all that traffic goes over the net, often long distances over many ISPs.	Jan 16 07:27
iophk	http://thejournal.com/articles/2014/01/16/net-neutrality-ruling-impact-on-education.aspx	Jan 16 07:27
TechrightsBot-tr	thejournal.com \| Will Net Neutrality Ruling Doom Education to Second-Class Status? -- THE Journal [ http://ur1.ca/gfnah ]	Jan 16 07:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/a_vl/status/423797638836670464	Jan 16 07:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@a_vl: "@schestowitz: 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For Netbooks http://t.co/XgPGRYFs2n #gnu #linux" / great anlysis and sugestions.	Jan 16 07:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| 6 More Great Linux Operating Systems For Netbooks ~ Everyday Linux User	Jan 16 07:51
amarsh04	the other thing that is crazy is university libraries outsourcing their catalogues	Jan 16 07:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423796761153777664 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423800906770296832	Jan 16 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Patent Troll #MPHJ Run by Lawyer Jay Mac Rust, Sending Nastygrams to 16,465 Businesses For Using Scanners http://t.co/a2oBsSaTEo #swpats	Jan 16 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Patent Troll MPHJ Run by Lawyer Jay Mac Rust, Sending Nastygrams to 16,465 Businesses For Using Scanners \| Techrights	Jan 16 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #CESG ( #UK Government): GNU/Linux the Most Secure Operating System; New Backdoors Released for #Windows http://t.co/Ey0RLWgS8z #gnu #linux	Jan 16 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| CESG (UK Government): GNU/Linux the Most Secure Operating System; New Backdoors Released for Windows \| Techrights	Jan 16 07:57
schestowitz	NSA #Surveillance Goes Offline, Potentially Gives Cancer http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/snowden-whistleblower/ #nsa #nytimes #snowden	Jan 16 07:57
schestowitz	#COINTELPRO Never Really Ended, It Just Changed Identity http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/cointelpro-changed-names/ #swartz #protest #peace #vietnam #fbi nypd #cia #nsa	Jan 16 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| NSA Surveillance Goes Offline, Potentially Gives Cancer \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfnn8 ]	Jan 16 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| COINTELPRO Never Really Ended, It Just Changed Identity \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfnn9 ]	Jan 16 07:57
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423805291562823680	Jan 16 08:14
DaemonFC	http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/18/clarityray-ad-blockers/	Jan 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Links 16/1/2014: Games http://t.co/0j5HUcPO69 Instructionals http://t.co/Jou7dxxGpG Applications http://t.co/JFNRc1i1p4 #techrights	Jan 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2014: Games \| Techrights	Jan 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2014: Instructionals \| Techrights	Jan 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2014: Applications \| Techrights	Jan 16 08:14
TechrightsBot-tr	techcrunch.com \| ClarityRay Battles Ad Blockers With $500K In Funding \| TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gfnq7 ]	Jan 16 08:14
DaemonFC	If you get through my ad blocker, I will make it a point to never buy anything from you.	Jan 16 08:14
DaemonFC	I have an ad blocker because I don't like being annoyed.	Jan 16 08:14
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DaemonFC	These games are huge. Glad I got the 32 GB phone.	Jan 16 08:18
DaemonFC	The 16 GB one wouldn't hold very many at 500 MB to 1.5 GB apiece.	Jan 16 08:19
MinceR	http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/01/15/nazis_genital_mutilation_and_gay_propaganda_or_human_rights_in_europe_according_to_	Jan 16 08:24
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.foreignpolicy.com \| Russian Human Rights Report Casts Europe as Land of Nazis and Gay Propaganda [ http://ur1.ca/gfnrm ]	Jan 16 08:24
MinceR	that's what the EU gets for tolerating a dictatorship as a member	Jan 16 08:24
MinceR	http://abstrusegoose.com/552	Jan 16 08:52
TechrightsBot-tr	abstrusegoose.com \| Abstruse Goose \| Astronaut Barbie	Jan 16 08:52
schestowitz	MinceR: notice the url	Jan 16 08:52
schestowitz	compare to headline	Jan 16 08:53
schestowitz	some editor didn't like to talk about genital mutilation it seems	Jan 16 08:53
MinceR	yeah	Jan 16 08:53
schestowitz	maybe he was himself mutilated	Jan 16 08:53
MinceR	it's holy and must be respected	Jan 16 08:53
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 16 08:53
MinceR	because preventing people from mutilating children would not be respectful enough of religion	Jan 16 08:53
schestowitz	DaemonFC: companies that make money from doing evil	Jan 16 08:57
schestowitz	surveillance, arms, patents, brainwash...	Jan 16 08:57
iophk	http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/blair-westlake-resigns-from-microsoft-1201059105/	Jan 16 08:58
TechrightsBot-tr	variety.com \| Blair Westlake Resigns from Microsoft \| Variety [ http://ur1.ca/gfnwo ]	Jan 16 08:58
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schestowitz	cool	Jan 16 09:11
schestowitz	I will do a post	Jan 16 09:11
DaemonFC	schestowitz: They promise to "sort out your ad-blocked inventory".	Jan 16 09:14
DaemonFC	Fuck them. I'm not inventory.	Jan 16 09:14
iophk	is this an attempt to whitewash it of the association with Surface?	Jan 16 09:14
iophk	http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/19/et-documentary-xbox/	Jan 16 09:14
iophk	Several tons of M$ Surfaces are in the dump too, according to popular conception along side the ET cartridges.	Jan 16 09:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.engadget.com \| Microsoft's first Xbox-exclusive documentary is digging up Atari's past [ http://ur1.ca/gfnzy ]	Jan 16 09:14
iophk	http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240899/Microsoft_writes_off_nearly_1B_to_account_for_Surface_RT_bomb	Jan 16 09:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerworld.com \| Microsoft writes off nearly $1B to account for Surface RT bomb - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gfo01 ]	Jan 16 09:15
iophk	old	Jan 16 09:15
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Sosumi	just some common sense	Jan 16 09:22
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-16/who-has-time-and-motivation-comprehend-mess-were-almost-nobody	Jan 16 09:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| Who Has The Time And Motivation to Comprehend The Mess We're In? Almost Nobody \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gfo1p ]	Jan 16 09:23
DaemonFC	Well, it's really easy for people to bash app pirates. They say it's only $5 or something. But nobody ever gets one app.	Jan 16 09:25
DaemonFC	You get hundreds or thousands. Most people have no money for that.	Jan 16 09:25
DaemonFC	I think there's something wrong when a computer's hardware costs less than the software it runs.	Jan 16 09:25
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schestowitz	[14:15] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.computerworld.com \| Microsoft writes off nearly $1B to account for Surface RT bomb - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gfo01 ]	Jan 16 09:37
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 16 09:37
schestowitz	only a billion?	Jan 16 09:37
iophk	They probably over inflated the worth as it was.	Jan 16 09:38
MinceR	http://www.secmeme.com/2014/01/till-death-do-us-part.html	Jan 16 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.secmeme.com \| Security Memetics: Till death do us part [ http://ur1.ca/gfo4t ]	Jan 16 09:39
schestowitz	ok, caught up with links here, I plan 2 more articles, 2 more links summaries	Jan 16 09:40
schestowitz	totalling 14 posts today, same as yesterday	Jan 16 09:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423826971697897472 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423826564594552832 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423825603239108608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423824690730504192	Jan 16 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #cia #drones in #yemen http://t.co/qemi2kxbBK	Jan 16 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "I think there's something wrong when a computer's hardware costs less than the software it runs." Ryan at #techrights	Jan 16 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Rape 'expert' called Dick Black http://t.co/AEq2lVX0X9 can't make this stuff up!	Jan 16 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.rawstory.com \| Virginia GOP candidate: Spousal rape isn’t a crime if she is ‘wearing a nightie’ \| The Raw Story	Jan 16 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Apple Meets Its Worst Nightmare: Federally Appointed Antitrust Lawyer Hell-Bent on Doing His Job http://t.co/e8mlPH1bV4 #apple #abuse	Jan 16 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.alternet.org \| Apple Meets Its Worst Nightmare: Federally Appointed Antitrust Lawyer Hell-Bent on Doing His Job \| Alternet	Jan 16 09:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423824379781586944 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423823920429793280 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423820942331379712	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The #fanatic patent aggressor, Apple, is trying to cuddle with #kde http://t.co/neOs7rOXxR send #apple to "Trash"	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> lists.kde.org \| '(fwd) Greetings from the Safari team at Apple Computer' - MARC	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Dotcom’s ‘Internet Party’ Aims to Shake Up Politics http://t.co/wLOyt9NhOv http://t.co/hsi4Xlg9mF nicely named, too	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> torrentfreak.com \| Dotcom’s ‘Internet Party’ Aims to Shake Up Politics \| TorrentFreak	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| Kim Dotcom: 'I'm not a pirate, I'm an innovator' \| Technology \| The Guardian	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: 'Hitler furious' at Swedish minister's satire mishap http://t.co/qYqWYYHJQR Russia calls Europe a land of Nazis http://t.co/pXsw1e74iA	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.thelocal.se \| 'Hitler furious' at Swedish minister's satire mishap - The Local	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> blog.foreignpolicy.com \| Russian Human Rights Report Casts Europe as Land of Nazis and Gay Propaganda	Jan 16 09:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423820134432915456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423817538611732480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423816773088313344	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Companies as informants against their customers https://t.co/vzUiqCvGVV’s-auto-location-services	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ https://t.co/vzUiqCvGVV’s-auto-location-services )	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Dvorak is experimenting with #gnu #linux again http://t.co/4o12RQK8ji	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.pcmag.com \| The Remarkable Intel NUC \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: FCC's incompetence can retard people http://t.co/JnELf9GiG6	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> thejournal.com \| Will Net Neutrality Ruling Doom Education to Second-Class Status? -- THE Journal	Jan 16 09:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423815917471281152	Jan 16 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Astronaut Barbie http://t.co/F7n9WM2oxu #humour	Jan 16 09:43
TechrightsBot-tr	-> abstrusegoose.com \| Abstruse Goose \| Astronaut Barbie	Jan 16 09:43
iophk	Does Dvorak have enough seniority to get away with that or will they try to can him over it?	Jan 16 09:43
schestowitz	nope	Jan 16 09:43
schestowitz	but he told me years ago, by email, that he was using ubuntu	Jan 16 09:43
schestowitz	so it's not new	Jan 16 09:43
iophk	the publicity is new	Jan 16 09:43
schestowitz	and I think he does use it, at least some of the time	Jan 16 09:43
schestowitz	no, he mentioned it before	Jan 16 09:44
schestowitz	!google john dvorak ubuntu	Jan 16 09:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Dvorak Likes Linux \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com \| http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2342703,00.asp	Jan 16 09:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Woe is Linux. Woe is Me. \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com \| http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2419744,00.asp	Jan 16 09:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Dvorak News Blog \| http://www.dvorak.org/	Jan 16 09:44
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - QotD: John C. Dvorak - Be the signal \| http://bethesignal.org/blog/2009/01/13/qotd-john-c-dvorak/	Jan 16 09:44
schestowitz	brb	Jan 16 09:44
iophk	there appears to be a series on 'exploit of the day' : https://www.schneier.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=NSA	Jan 16 09:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.schneier.com \| Schneier on Security: Entries Tagged NSA [ http://ur1.ca/gfo61 ]	Jan 16 09:46
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iophk	https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-1401.html#2	Jan 16 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.schneier.com \| Crypto-Gram: January 15, 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gfob6 ]	Jan 16 10:07
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iophk	"Tom Wheeler is only fanning the flames of the fire with repeatedly vague responses regarding net neutrality. People are up in arms because Wheeler doesn’t view net neutrality as a communication issue, but rather a network (technical) issue, which aligns with yesterday’s court decision."	Jan 16 10:25
iophk	http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/15/why-fcc-chairman-tom-wheeler-isnt-big-on-net-neutrality-rules/	Jan 16 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr	venturebeat.com \| Why FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler isn't big on net neutrality rules \| VentureBeat \| Business \| by Tom Cheredar [ http://ur1.ca/gfokz ]	Jan 16 10:25
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423833108044337152 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423833515500003328 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423837778288582656	Jan 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Interventions Watch: January 2014 http://t.co/CN48hMTlNp #syria #iraq #libya #china #russia #sudan #africa #mandela	Jan 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Interventions Watch: January 2014 \| Techrights	Jan 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Back doors for the government's legalised crackers is also a back doors for non-government crackers https://t.co/jyLd2BZH1v	Jan 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Cable/Media Companies’ Conflict in Reporting (and Rupert #Murdoch Really Hates Net Neutrality) http://t.co/Ps9fbeaKLD #NetNeutrality	Jan 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Cable/Media Companies’ Conflict in Reporting (and Rupert Murdoch Really Hates Net Neutrality!) \| Techrights	Jan 16 11:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423844262472851456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423848675031670784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423854731489185792	Jan 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: KDE Needs to Tell Apple to Take a Hike http://t.co/ocvvI0yacc #kde #apple #konqueror #kthml #safari #antitrust	Jan 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| KDE Needs to Tell Apple to Take a Hike \| Techrights	Jan 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Microsoft Vice President Blair Westlake Quits Microsoft http://t.co/TgLmUSj5Th #microsoft #xbox #xboxone #nsa	Jan 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Microsoft Vice President Blair Westlake Quits Microsoft \| Techrights	Jan 16 11:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors http://t.co/TsVZlYbpvr #hyperv #windows #security	Jan 16 11:32
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors \| Techrights	Jan 16 11:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423855947879305217 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423856075029614592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423856842364956672 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423857188764155904	Jan 16 11:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA Exploit of the Day https://t.co/cNHVG02bPB	Jan 16 11:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "84 YEAR OLD CANADIAN WITH DEMENTIA DIES IN HANDCUFFS AT UK IMMIGRATION CENTRE" http://t.co/V1gablqPRl #uk #canada	Jan 16 11:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> iacknowledge.net \| 84 Year Old Canadian with Dementia Dies in Handcuffs at UK Immigration Centre \| I Acknowledge	Jan 16 11:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #FCC 'chairmole': a #lobbyist with a #coup http://t.co/OgeehGDHV4 mission accomplished™	Jan 16 11:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Turkish riot police officer who gassed ‘lady in red’ faces prosecution http://t.co/Stf722jtRT #uk #police would have covered (for him) up	Jan 16 11:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.independent.co.uk \| Turkish riot police officer who gassed ‘lady in red’ faces prosecution and possible jail term - Europe - World - The Independent	Jan 16 11:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423859395563630592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423859732827623424 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423859875261976576	Jan 16 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA: six out of 10 Americans want reform of data collection, says poll http://t.co/vvVRgCnor5 http://t.co/U3B3RFJ21c http://t.co/8zdPLAQTrh	Jan 16 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| NSA: six out of 10 Americans want reform of data collection, says poll \| World news \| theguardian.com	Jan 16 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.aljazeera.com \| US set to announce NSA reforms - Americas - Al Jazeera English	Jan 16 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessweek.com \| Phone Companies to Win in Obama Plan to Leave Records at NSA - Businessweek	Jan 16 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Bloomberg's 'News' calls it a "win" when the #nsa (without oversight) gets to keep all the call records. Win for Michael #Bloomberg maybe.	Jan 16 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA reform measures quietly included in $1.1tn spending bill http://t.co/e7mv3efMK6 trillions for war and spying, not for care	Jan 16 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| NSA reform measures quietly included in $1.1tn spending bill \| World news \| theguardian.com	Jan 16 11:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423860707181219841 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423861122991919105 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423861330014388224 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423861685502627840	Jan 16 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Companies trust #china more than the #us after the #nsa leaks http://t.co/3eeVlhNm1R	Jan 16 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theregister.co.uk \| Huawei dismisses NSA backdoor claims as profits soar • The Register	Jan 16 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #US citizens recognise their real enemy: oligarchs and military industrial complex http://t.co/ZafXZaJbS5	Jan 16 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.examiner.com \| NSA scandal: Washington State considers cutting off electricity, water for NSA - National Law Enforcement \| Examiner.com	Jan 16 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA Metadata Collection: Fourth Amendment Violation http://t.co/Dmli7HWnwq why isn't Alexander holed up in some embassy somewhere?	Jan 16 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> jurist.org \| JURIST - Forum: NSA Metadata Collection: Fourth Amendment Violation	Jan 16 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #NSA Whistlebower-- William Binney (formerly NSA): Corruption in NSA, Lies About Snowden, Threats to #Democracy http://t.co/wj7E7q8nWD	Jan 16 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.opednews.com \| Podcast: NSA Whistlebower-- William Binney: Corruption in NSA, Lies About Snowden, Threats to Democracy \| OpEdNews	Jan 16 11:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423862249229676544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423862521658081280 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423862823513759744	Jan 16 12:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #Security Expert Bruce Schneier Says to Foil NSA Spies, Encrypt Everything http://t.co/IM724vP226 #nsa #schneier	Jan 16 12:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessweek.com \| Security Expert Bruce Schneier Says to Foil NSA Spies, Encrypt Everything - Businessweek	Jan 16 12:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Privacy advocates fear ‘largely cosmetic’ NSA reform package http://t.co/i8Y47734WM http://t.co/fHsabT1VJz	Jan 16 12:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.japantimes.co.jp \| Privacy advocates fear 'largely cosmetic' NSA reform package \| The Japan Times	Jan 16 12:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.voanews.com \| Latest Revelations on NSA Likely to Change Little in US Cyber Spying	Jan 16 12:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #obama is memorising a speech right now. Who wrote it? They'll use lingual trick to avoid #snowden as "whistleblower" http://t.co/FMLJ0L611X	Jan 16 12:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.scmp.com \| Obama set to respond to Snowden about NSA reforms in highly anticipated speech \| South China Morning Post	Jan 16 12:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423864053073584128	Jan 16 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Binney&Drake became aware that they had committed offences,whereupon the did the right thing, laid ground for Snowden http://t.co/BfmkJ0J5jQ	Jan 16 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.delcotimes.com \| Two whistleblowers share concerns of NSA overreach at WCU event	Jan 16 12:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423864411137531905 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423864661092872192 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423865056494116864 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423865355308912640	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: AP/Bloomberg groom makers of #nsa #whitewash at #cbs http://t.co/8HSP1VxYDE corporate media: it's one happy family, it seems	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessweek.com \| Producer: NSA revelations vindicate CBS drama - Businessweek	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The NSA's Biggest Supporter Is Worried About Drone Privacy Issues http://t.co/axtcAtSeQ0 #feinstein volunteer #pr for #nsa	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> motherboard.vice.com \| The NSA's Biggest Supporter Is Worried About Drone Privacy Issues \| Motherboard	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: This Is Where #Drone Operators Kill People by Remote Control http://t.co/XpcHRjoeUx ... https://t.co/eece7YYGm1	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.gizmodo.in \| This Is Where Drone Operators Kill People by Remote Control \| Gizmodo India	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> joindiaspora.com \| This Is Where #Dr...	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Texas named a drone ‘site’ http://t.co/6lsuO4K0wa there's domestic #dissent (aka "terrorism") http://t.co/v3qxiJndju	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.alpineavalanche.com \| Texas named a drone ‘site’ - Alpine Avalanche: News	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bizjournals.com \| UC doesn't want you to fear the dawn of drones - Cincinnati Business Courier	Jan 16 12:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423865747983831040	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #drone #violence may seem "necessary" when the population it's supposed to control is itself violent (cyclical) http://t.co/sBvtCsBl4U	Jan 16 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.opednews.com \| Article: Violence becoming the new norm in America \| OpEdNews	Jan 16 12:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423866789148491776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423867404993982464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423867571256172545	Jan 16 12:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Secret amendment in Congress keeps #CIA in charge of deadly #drone strikes http://t.co/u3tivrDyO0 http://t.co/rI1ExGzBYy Change?!	Jan 16 12:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| NO TITLE	Jan 16 12:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> voiceofrussia.com \| US policymakers seek to block transfer of drone campaign CIA to Pentagon - News - Politics - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video	Jan 16 12:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "America's Great Game: The CIA's Secret Arabists and the Shaping of the Modern Middle East" - new Wilford book http://t.co/5xCZ6zw2bD	Jan 16 12:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.usnews.com \| The 'Great Game' and the CIA Shaped the Modern Middle East - US News and World Report	Jan 16 12:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: DOES BEZOS' CIA LINK, COMPROMISE WASHINGTON POST? http://t.co/K31t0mftXk Rhetorical question. #cia execs now guest writers.	Jan 16 12:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.wnd.com \| Does Bezos’ CIA link, compromise Washington Post?	Jan 16 12:23
schestowitz	http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2014/01/pictures-commando-tourism-israel-201418104712893401.html	Jan 16 12:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.aljazeera.com \| In Pictures: 'Commando tourism' in Israel - In Pictures - Al Jazeera English [ http://ur1.ca/gfpin ]	Jan 16 12:26
schestowitz	Symptoms of #empire http://truth-out.org/news/item/21261-the-special-ops-surge-americas-secret-war-in-134-countries	Jan 16 12:28
TechrightsBot-tr	truth-out.org \| The Special Ops Surge: America's Secret War in 134 Countries [ http://ur1.ca/gfpj4 ]	Jan 16 12:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423869663131365376	Jan 16 12:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Leaked #TPP Document Reveals No Regard for #Environment in Trade Agreement http://t.co/2SFZe8yZu4	Jan 16 12:29
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| Leaked TPP Document Reveals No Regard for Environment in Trade Agreement - YouTube	Jan 16 12:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/423869205855735808	Jan 16 12:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@EllieAsksWhy: @schestowitz Yes. He has a variety of other links which will likely result in further compromise to his media businesses.	Jan 16 12:30
schestowitz	which ones? Links...	Jan 16 12:30
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iophk	I've not noticed that the net-neutrality articles have mentioned that it was status quo and how the Internet got built.	Jan 16 12:59
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Sosumi	now that I think of it	Jan 16 13:32
Sosumi	we do kind of need a siri, free, alternative	Jan 16 13:33
Sosumi	that runs locally	Jan 16 13:33
Sosumi	and I don't thin there are any projects out there	Jan 16 13:33
Sosumi	I'll have too look deeper into it, just to make sure	Jan 16 13:36
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeHHLhBCUAEyJ90.jpg:large	Jan 16 13:36
Sosumi	that was the reason I stopped gaming	Jan 16 13:36
Sosumi	not that I was ever too much of a "gamer"	Jan 16 13:36
iophk	MBAs == money Tribbles	Jan 16 14:23
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fewt	everyone should play gorillas.bas	Jan 16 14:51
fewt	I mean, hi!	Jan 16 14:51
fewt	hmm does gorillas.bas classify as FOSS?	Jan 16 14:51
iophk	what does the head of the source say?	Jan 16 14:52
fewt	guess not	Jan 16 14:52
fewt	ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/windows/msdos/RESKIT/SUPPDISK/GORILLA.BAS	Jan 16 14:52
fewt	no public domain, foss, or even right to use defined.	Jan 16 14:52
iophk	close:	Jan 16 14:53
iophk	http://www.lysator.liu.se/eamon/	Jan 16 14:53
iophk	"Non-commercial distribution welcomed"	Jan 16 14:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.lysator.liu.se \| The Unofficial Home Page of Eamon Games	Jan 16 14:53
fewt	<3	Jan 16 14:54
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Sosumi	http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=604	Jan 16 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.stevequayle.com \| Wells fargo now charging for deposits! [ http://ur1.ca/gfr6w ]	Jan 16 15:46
Sosumi	yeah, it is true	Jan 16 15:46
Sosumi	here in PT they want to do exactly the same	Jan 16 15:47
Sosumi	although with much backlash from the public	Jan 16 15:47
Sosumi	so they kind of put it on hold for now	Jan 16 15:47
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Sosumi	you pay for letting a bank borrow your money	Jan 16 15:49
MinceR	what a great business	Jan 16 15:49
Sosumi	and trow it around without giving you a decent percentage	Jan 16 15:49
Sosumi	also, cyprus	Jan 16 15:49
Sosumi	keep your money in the bank they said	Jan 16 15:49
Sosumi	it'll be safe, they said	Jan 16 15:50
Sosumi	until "bail in" came in	Jan 16 15:50
Sosumi	ho! and lets not forget the confiscation of pension funds in poland and in here	Jan 16 15:50
Sosumi	just hide your valuables somewhere safe, like in a hole in the middle of nowhere	Jan 16 15:51
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Sosumi	and hey, don't forget to not bring your cell phone with you nor use a car with build in gps	Jan 16 16:21
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Sosumi	gn	Jan 16 17:30
MinceR	gn	Jan 16 18:17
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Viper550	the Wikimedia Commons community is proposing to endorse and allow the patent encumbered MP4 as a video format	Jan 16 18:59
Viper550	https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/MP4_Video	Jan 16 19:00
TechrightsBot-tr	commons.wikimedia.org \| Commons:Requests for comment/MP4 Video - Wikimedia Commons [ http://ur1.ca/gfqqw ]	Jan 16 19:00
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423994902507425793 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423995368389750784	Jan 16 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: I can no longer use or recommend #startpage and #iquick - expanded from .NL to NYC (NYPD/FBI/NSA), uses MSFT for images, does #google ads	Jan 16 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: The only #privacy preserving search engine (which did not sell out) was #scroogle - like #lavabit it shut down rather than sell out.	Jan 16 20:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423997796249636864	Jan 16 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: It's easy to assume that #iquick lost its commitment to #privacy now, just like #DDG (Amazon)."google is everywhere" https://t.co/TeIBG40k1A	Jan 16 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Epiphany Web Browser Now Uses HTTPS for Google Searches by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Epiphany-Web-Browser-Now-Uses-HTTPS-for-Google-Searches-by-Default-416947.shtml why use Google at all?	Jan 16 20:59
schestowitz__	> https://twitter.com/RightToBeForgot/status/423996248677687296	Jan 16 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@RightToBeForgot: @schestowitz I've been trying out https://t.co/KtYT2eGz9s which is pretty good so far. no images though	Jan 16 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> metager.de \| MetaGer - die MetaSuche über deutschsprachige Suchmaschinen	Jan 16 20:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423998446388137984	Jan 16 21:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Charging for deposits! http://t.co/3quH6TVYk9 those poor banks. Not selling enough mortgages and bogus insurance? Too many bonuses?	Jan 16 21:03
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/423999346854862848	Jan 16 21:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: When a friend of yours -- or even a business -- wishes to borrow your money (to lend out to others at 10% APR) would you PAY him/her/it?	Jan 16 21:05
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/424001585141014529	Jan 16 21:17
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Private gang, like domestic army https://t.co/gkt1Z35bYP	Jan 16 21:17
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.commondreams.org \| All Of Us Need To Be Very Afraid Now: "Peace Officers" Who Beat Homeless Mentally Ill Man To Death Somehow Found Not Guilty \| Common Dreams	Jan 16 21:17
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/424003621714665472	Jan 16 21:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: "manager lied about Thomas breaking into cars when calling the police to get them to respond more quickly." https://t.co/FZ155TG3z8	Jan 16 21:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> en.wikipedia.org \| Death of Kelly Thomas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	Jan 16 21:22
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DaemonFC	shared a link via Lifehacker.	Jan 17 00:32
DaemonFC	28 seconds ago	Jan 17 00:32
DaemonFC	http://lifehac.kr/rilBbTL	Jan 17 00:32
TechrightsBot-tr	lifehacker.com \| Make 20 Meals to Feed a Family of Four for $150 and One Trip to Costco	Jan 17 00:32
DaemonFC	For anyone with a CostCo nearby, an excellent plan to create an affordable monthly grocery bill. 20 good meals for $150. Basically unheard of these days. Grocery prices are up about 30% since 2008, because of Wall Street speculators, global climate change, and overpopulation.	Jan 17 00:32
DaemonFC	I'm doing my part. I have personally reduced the 2050 population by 3-5 people.	Jan 17 00:33
DaemonFC	shared a link via Gawker.	Jan 17 00:33
DaemonFC	4 minutes ago	Jan 17 00:33
DaemonFC	http://gaw.kr/T8DuR4d	Jan 17 00:33
TechrightsBot-tr	gawker.com \| Drunk Driver Busted After Pet Parrot Squawks to Police	Jan 17 00:33
DaemonFC	I'd have to pull a Captain Jack Sparrow. Point a gun at the bird and say "What did the bird say?". :)	Jan 17 00:34
DaemonFC	shared Human Rights Campaign's photo.	Jan 17 00:34
DaemonFC	5 minutes ago · Edited	Jan 17 00:34
DaemonFC	The Human Rights Campaign listened when I commented "Better Sooner than later." and made this image.	Jan 17 00:34
DaemonFC	(Oklahoma is the "Sooner" state, for those that didn't get it.)	Jan 17 00:34
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/p526x296/1009868_10152179044628281_1529538792_n.jpg	Jan 17 00:34
DaemonFC	about an hour ago · Edited	Jan 17 00:35
DaemonFC	Someone brought up the fact that Solyndra failed and cost taxpayers a few million dollars.	Jan 17 00:35
DaemonFC	When the BP oil rig exploded in 2010, because they were being regulated by oil company lobbyists that had taken over the Mineral Management Agency under the Bush Administration (in between office parties with hookers and cocaine), the government spent most of the cost of cleaning up the mess, because of a law that the Republicans passed in the 80s that capped the oil company's liability at a very low amount.	Jan 17 00:35
DaemonFC	Why are we paying $4 a gallon for gas and well over $100 per barrel of oil to a foreign company that makes hundreds of billions of dollars per year, and then having the government make us pay $40 billion to clean up their exploded oil rig as well?	Jan 17 00:35
DaemonFC	shared a link via Android and Me.	Jan 17 00:35
DaemonFC	2 hours ago	Jan 17 00:35
DaemonFC	http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/lg-g-flex-headed-to-sprint-for-300-on-january-31-preorder-yours-today/	Jan 17 00:35
TechrightsBot-tr	androidandme.com \| LG G Flex headed to Sprint for $300 on January 31; preorder yours today \| Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gftub ]	Jan 17 00:35
DaemonFC	I don't understand why these curved glass phones are so popular. This one is just the LG G2 with curved glass. I got my G2 for $50 on contract, and these curved glass phones are $300 with contract? Yikes!	Jan 17 00:36
DaemonFC	The G2 is an excellent phone as-is. It's fast enough to play games that were on the XBOX 360 at a stable frame rate of 60 fps, with vsync, triple buffering, and pretty much all of the graphical detail intact. I hooked my G2 up to the TV and played Need For Speed: Most Wanted today. I couldn't tell the difference between the XBOX 360 version and my phone. That should tell you that Moore's Law is alive and well.	Jan 17 00:36
DaemonFC	The Snapdragon 800 CPU and Adreno 330 graphics processor are some real beasts.	Jan 17 00:36
DaemonFC	shared a link via Truthout.	Jan 17 00:37
DaemonFC	2 hours ago	Jan 17 00:37
DaemonFC	Every state should pass this bill. No cooperation with the NSA, and cut off their electricity too.	Jan 17 00:37
DaemonFC	http://truth-out.org/news/item/21253-washington-state-bill-proposes-criminalizing-help-to-nsa-turning-off-resources-to-yakima-facility	Jan 17 00:37
TechrightsBot-tr	truth-out.org \| Washington State Bill Proposes Criminalizing Help to NSA, Turning Off Resources to Yakima Facility [ http://ur1.ca/gftuf ]	Jan 17 00:37
Viper550	the G2's UI looks awful	Jan 17 00:37
DaemonFC	It's not bad. It can be changed easily to look any way you want it to.	Jan 17 00:41
DaemonFC	Android allows you to replace the launcher and lock screen with third party apps.	Jan 17 00:42
Viper550	DaemonFC, but nothing changes the fact they're knowingly using a deprecated UI element (the menu button)	Jan 17 00:47
Viper550	and that they managed to not include all the Roboto font variants, breaking rendering in certain apps	Jan 17 00:48
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Sosumi	http://slated.org/opposing_copyright	Jan 17 02:12
TechrightsBot-tr	slated.org \| Opposing Copyright \| Slated	Jan 17 02:12
iophk	http://falkvinge.net/	Jan 17 02:12
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 522 @ http://falkvinge.net/ )	Jan 17 02:13
iophk	that site has been down for days	Jan 17 02:13
Sosumi	rick falkvinge's site is down?	Jan 17 02:13
iophk	It appears so.	Jan 17 02:14
iophk	the reverse proxy is not getting through to it	Jan 17 02:14
iophk	and producing an error message	Jan 17 02:14
Sosumi	yeah, I see	Jan 17 02:15
Sosumi	any word from him?	Jan 17 02:15
iophk	I haven't e-mailed him.	Jan 17 02:15
Sosumi	nothing on his twitter?	Jan 17 02:16
Sosumi	last message from him on g+ was posted on january the 15th	Jan 17 02:18
Sosumi	but there's nothing about the server being down	Jan 17 02:19
Sosumi	probably just something that blew up	Jan 17 02:22
Sosumi	and it'll be back in no time :)	Jan 17 02:22
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3527359	Jan 17 03:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors http://techrights.org/2014/01/16/hyperv-back-doors/	Jan 17 03:04
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Don’t Host GNU/Linux Under Hyper-V or Windows; There Are Back Doors \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gftlo ]	Jan 17 03:04
schestowitz__	"I wouldn't consider it based on the principle of the matter. As soon as you involve #Microsoft you are asking for a choke hold."	Jan 17 03:04
iophk	sosumi: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/ftc-says-apple-will-pay-at-least-325-million-over-in-app-purchases/2014/01/15/7c2ebc54-7e13-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html	Jan 17 03:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| FTC says Apple will pay at least $32.5 million over in-app purchases - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/gfum7 ]	Jan 17 03:06
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 17 04:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Six free open source CD and or DVD authoring	Jan 17 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	tools for Linux http://t.co/8ljgxTCSTu	Jan 17 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0r	Jan 17 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mentor adds Linux and multicore options for	Jan 17 04:12
TweetTuxMachines	in-car media http://t.co/SsrLyWvN5k	Jan 17 04:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0s	Jan 17 04:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora and CentOS Updates, Linux for Security,	Jan 17 04:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Six free open source CD and or DVD authoring tools for Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 04:12
TweetTuxMachines	and Top Seven http://t.co/8daXBBDKkw	Jan 17 04:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfv0t	Jan 17 04:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mentor adds Linux and multicore options for in-car media \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 04:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora and CentOS Updates, Linux for Security, and Top Seven \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 04:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam OS has that killer app that Ubuntu	Jan 17 04:12
TweetTuxMachines	doesn’t http://t.co/NyeGvTAjh4	Jan 17 04:12
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Steam OS has that killer app that Ubuntu doesn’t \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 04:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.12.8 Is Now Available for	Jan 17 04:12
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.12.8 Is Now Available for Download \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 04:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lastwheel/status/424113434091745280	Jan 17 04:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@lastwheel: This is why you should refuse to use a car. This is why a cycle: https://t.co/PjNacILjIa RT @schestowitz	Jan 17 04:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3528114	Jan 17 04:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### How do you recognize the NSA #headquarter?	Jan 17 04:40
DaemonFC	http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/10/why-does-windows-have-terrible-battery-life.html	Jan 17 04:44
DaemonFC	LOL	Jan 17 04:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.codinghorror.com \| Coding Horror: Why Does Windows Have Terrible Battery Life? [ http://ur1.ca/gfv82 ]	Jan 17 04:44
DaemonFC	Windows RT gets worse battery life than the desktop OS X	Jan 17 04:46
schestowitz	link?	Jan 17 05:03
schestowitz	iophk: rich's site is back online	Jan 17 05:13
iophk	yes, just reading it now	Jan 17 05:13
iophk	he has used a 4G modem or something	Jan 17 05:13
iophk	his main link is down	Jan 17 05:14
iophk	and the ISP is backtalking him	Jan 17 05:14
iophk	"2 to 5 business days ..."	Jan 17 05:14
iophk	I still wonder if Sweden has the necessary infrastructure any more (water, electricity, phone, internet, etc)	Jan 17 05:15
iophk	When it's back up again there will probably be some interesting posts reflecting on connectivity.	Jan 17 05:18
iophk	caves of steel - http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22129524.100-vertical-farms-sprouting-all-over-the-world.html	Jan 17 05:50
iophk	http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-lazarus-20140117,0,1949780.column	Jan 17 05:52
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.newscientist.com \| Vertical farms sprouting all over the world - tech - 16 January 2014 - New Scientist [ http://ur1.ca/gfvlj ]	Jan 17 05:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.latimes.com \| Keep the Internet free and open - latimes.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfvll ]	Jan 17 05:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424130346691485697 https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424130739274149888	Jan 17 05:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz I think the public has already figured out what they are, the curtain is gone	Jan 17 05:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz kind of like a demented and dangerous Santa Clause with drones...	Jan 17 05:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424131081923620865	Jan 17 05:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz and dont forget backend collections from various web services. Lots of people use their common passwords for all things...	Jan 17 05:55
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/wikimedia-considers-supporting-h-264-to-boost-accessibility-content/	Jan 17 06:00
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Wikimedia considers supporting H.264 to boost accessibility, content \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfvmb ]	Jan 17 06:00
MinceR	:(	Jan 17 06:01
iophk	long-term it would reduce accessibility...	Jan 17 06:02
DaemonFC	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/chromium-npapi-flash-dropped-april-2014	Jan 17 06:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Use Chromium on Linux? Adobe Flash Will Stop Working From April \| OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/gfvn0 ]	Jan 17 06:07
DaemonFC	Google is dropping NPAPI support, like Microsoft did in IE 5	Jan 17 06:07
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iophk	old - http://www.techrepublic.com/article/go-daddy-ditches-open-source-os-then-donates-10k-to-open-source-project/	Jan 17 06:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.techrepublic.com \| Go Daddy ditches open source OS then donates $10k to open source project - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/gfvq5 ]	Jan 17 06:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/424137185038594049	Jan 17 06:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: https://t.co/ttlYG4jaD2 to get them conditioned to accept spying and no rights, you have to get them young @schestowitz	Jan 17 06:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### <a href="http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/2014/2014_01_17-bcbe_laptop_policies/">Troubling User Agreement for Grade School</a>	Jan 17 06:28
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by willhill@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e4f73dbb489a8015f0ba.jpg	Jan 17 06:28
DaemonFC	http://blog.chromium.org/2013/09/saying-goodbye-to-our-old-friend-npapi.html	Jan 17 06:35
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.chromium.org \| Chromium Blog: Saying Goodbye to Our Old Friend NPAPI [ http://ur1.ca/gfvrm ]	Jan 17 06:35
iophk	"Reports this week have suggested talks on a "no spying" deal, launched after revelations last year that the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) had monitored Merkel's mobile phone, are near collapse because Washington refuses to rule out eavesdropping on one of its closest post-war allies."	Jan 17 06:48
iophk	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/16/us-germany-usa-spying-idUSBREA0F0TX20140116	Jan 17 06:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.reuters.com \| Spying plunges U.S.-German ties lower than Iraq war: Merkel ally \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gfvuv ]	Jan 17 06:48
Sosumi	iophk, I knew that already	Jan 17 07:08
Sosumi	and in app purchases and dlc are both scams	Jan 17 07:08
iophk	Does it apply to other companies selling in-app purchases?	Jan 17 07:08
iophk	They seem to exploit stupid people and young kids.	Jan 17 07:08
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 17 07:08
Sosumi	but one thing is certain	Jan 17 07:08
Sosumi	m$ introduced dlc	Jan 17 07:09
Sosumi	and crapple, in app purchases	Jan 17 07:09
schestowitz	murdoch's press keeps citing "terror" http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304419104579325101634360172?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304419104579325101634360172.html	Jan 17 07:09
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Obama Wrestles With Final Details of Overhaul Plan for NSA - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfvyf ]	Jan 17 07:09
iophk	weak on details _ http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/17/us-usa-security-obama-idUSBREA0G0JI20140117	Jan 17 07:20
iophk	it seems that the data (metadata) is still collected, they are just arguing about who stores it	Jan 17 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.reuters.com \| Exclusive: Obama to announce overhaul to controversial NSA program \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gfvzy ]	Jan 17 07:20
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DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2F3ZWEEbF4	Jan 17 07:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Rage Quit - Surgeon Simulator 2013 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gfw3m ]	Jan 17 07:36
schestowitz	iophk: yeah	Jan 17 07:39
schestowitz	rubber-stamping the practice	Jan 17 07:39
schestowitz	and making up a bogus controversy	Jan 17 07:40
schestowitz	that of corporations	Jan 17 07:40
schestowitz	who stores it...	Jan 17 07:40
iophk	also dodging the main question	Jan 17 07:40
schestowitz	It's about corporations getting upset, not people getting upset	Jan 17 07:40
schestowitz	iophk: legality	Jan 17 07:40
iophk	other countries have outsourced their activities, in some cases to avoid legal obligations with data and such	Jan 17 07:41
iophk	government data has to be archived, private company data can be deleted off hand	Jan 17 07:41
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 17 07:41
iophk	the previous US administration did something like that with their e-mail to avoid retention	Jan 17 07:44
iophk	and all e-mail-using administrations prior to that had tried to get their mail deleted anyway	Jan 17 07:44
DaemonFC	http://news.msn.com/science-technology/apple-to-refund-dollar325m-in-app-case-government	Jan 17 07:45
TechrightsBot-tr	news.msn.com \| Apple to refund $32.5M in app case: Government [ http://ur1.ca/gfw5j ]	Jan 17 07:45
iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601979.html	Jan 17 07:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| GOP Groups Told to Keep Bush Officials' E-Mails [ http://ur1.ca/gfw5k ]	Jan 17 07:46
iophk	M$ also apparently uses short retention policies combined with bureaucratic misdirection to prevent access to old mails. Cringley wrote a bit about that.	Jan 17 07:46
schestowitz	iophk: MSN 'news'	Jan 17 07:54
schestowitz	is that reliable	Jan 17 07:54
schestowitz	and the second a CIA stronghold, Washington Outpost	Jan 17 07:54
iophk	probably not	Jan 17 07:54
schestowitz	Bezos/Amazon by Post	Jan 17 07:54
iophk	I'd go with other sources	Jan 17 07:54
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 17 07:54
schestowitz	I have one about the FTC	Jan 17 07:54
schestowitz	Not shocking that MS would promote it	Jan 17 07:54
schestowitz	They're still rivals in this area	Jan 17 07:54
schestowitz	I'd look like a mug linking to that	Jan 17 07:55
iophk	In-app purchases are kind of unscrupulous by nature.	Jan 17 07:56
DaemonFC	https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!msg/chromium-dev/J72Iv9wtTzw/32Itws6ITRkJ	Jan 17 07:57
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TechrightsBot-tr	groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/gfw76 ]	Jan 17 07:57
iophk	The in-app purchase decisions is covered by a lot of sites.	Jan 17 07:57
iophk	http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/mobile-applications/apple-settles-ftc-in-app-purchasing-complaint/d/d-id/1113454	Jan 17 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.informationweek.com \| Apple Settles FTC In-App Purchasing Complaint - InformationWeek [ http://ur1.ca/gfw77 ]	Jan 17 07:57
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schestowitz	cheers, added	Jan 17 08:04
schestowitz	article soon... MS, then APple, than RHT	Jan 17 08:07
schestowitz	I just cancelled lunch with a friend, so can probably write a dozen posts at most before I start work (5:30)	Jan 17 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Stallman Explains That People Should Say	Jan 17 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux for Freedom and Equal Mention	Jan 17 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cgDQNwPgGE	Jan 17 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gfw8d	Jan 17 08:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Stallman Explains That People Should Say GNU/Linux for Freedom and Equal Mention \| Tux Machines	Jan 17 08:08
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DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/chromes-windows-8-chrome-os-lookalike-gets-a-stable-release/	Jan 17 09:20
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Chrome’s Windows 8 Chrome OS-lookalike gets a stable release \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gfwke ]	Jan 17 09:20
DaemonFC	That's kind of neat.	Jan 17 09:20
MinceR	except for the part where you're running winblows :>	Jan 17 09:21
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/red-hat-and-centos-become-voltron-build-free-operating-system-together/	Jan 17 09:24
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Red Hat and CentOS become Voltron, build free operating system together \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gdcqm ]	Jan 17 09:24
DaemonFC	""In retaliation, Red Hat started shipping Linux kernel source code in a big tarball with the patches already applied, making it more difficult to build Linux distributions from the RHEL source,""	Jan 17 09:24
DaemonFC	Not more difficult if you just want to build it.	Jan 17 09:25
DaemonFC	More difficult to figure out what's in it.	Jan 17 09:25
MinceR	and why would anyone ever want to figure out anyway?	Jan 17 09:25
MinceR	it's not like they want control over what runs on their computer	Jan 17 09:25
MinceR	right? :>	Jan 17 09:25
DaemonFC	http://billmccloskey.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/multiprocess-firefox/	Jan 17 09:31
TechrightsBot-tr	billmccloskey.wordpress.com \| Multiprocess Firefox \| Bill McCloskey's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gfwme ]	Jan 17 09:31
DaemonFC	missed that entirely	Jan 17 09:31
MinceR	are they still doing it or what?	Jan 17 09:32
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 17 09:33
DaemonFC	It's in nightly	Jan 17 09:33
MinceR	ic	Jan 17 09:35
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Havokmon/status/424193402842779648 https://twitter.com/REALMattRichie/status/424194109113262080\	Jan 17 10:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@Havokmon: @schestowitz http://t.co/6TqjjhImCp #lavabit shutdown because govt wouldn't pay $2k for realtime wiretap on data already proivded manually.	Jan 17 10:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@REALMattRichie: Stallman's emphasis on using GNU when referring to GNU/Linux and discussion on #freedom http://t.co/A13WHPL4PX \| via @schestowitz	Jan 17 10:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> bytesmedia.co.uk \| Bytes Media - Stallman Explains That People Should Say GNU/Linux for Freedom and Equal Mention	Jan 17 10:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Havokmon/status/424195595427794946	Jan 17 10:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@Havokmon: @schestowitz whoop. Wrong link - this explains it all: http://t.co/XPZPlDETHA	Jan 17 10:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> havokmon.blogspot.com \| Havokmon: Lavabit - There's a sucker born every minute	Jan 17 10:06
schestowitz	Either way, he defended his users	Jan 17 10:07
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Havokmon/status/424202881265176578	Jan 17 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@Havokmon: @schestowitz Defended his users? He CAUSED the problem with the $2k demand. An encryption dev who can't automate a process? Really?	Jan 17 10:37
fewt	wat ap	Jan 17 10:46
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schestowitz	MinceR: DaemonFC http://techrights.org/2014/01/17/rhel-security/	Jan 17 10:52
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| For Real Security, Use CentOS — Never RHEL — and Run Neither on Amazon’s Servers \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gfx2n ]	Jan 17 10:53
schestowitz	[14:25] <DaemonFC> More difficult to figure out what's in it.	Jan 17 10:53
schestowitz	[14:25] <MinceR> and why would anyone ever want to figure out anyway?	Jan 17 10:53
schestowitz	[14:25] <MinceR> it's not like they want control over what runs on their computer	Jan 17 10:53
schestowitz	That's the problem	Jan 17 10:53
schestowitz	Now Red Hat can have more control over what's going into CentOS, and I don't view that as a positive TBH; OTOH, they can keep CentOS afloat.	Jan 17 10:54
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ConsensusBureau/status/424212373176463361	Jan 17 11:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@ConsensusBureau: @schestowitz Have you seen this Snowden song? Want to help it go viral with a quick RT? Thanks!! http://t.co/Qo7fTP4zyv	Jan 17 11:14
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.youtube.com \| "Groovy Snowden" by The Consensus Bureau - YouTube	Jan 17 11:14
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Sosumi	http://enenews.com/japan-tv-it-gets-worse-every-minute-at-fukushima-plant-groundwater-mixing-with-melted-fuel-gundersen-theres-no-end-in-sight-because-the-nuclear-core-is-in-contact-with-groundwater-video	Jan 17 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr	enenews.com \| Japan TV: It gets worse every minute at Fukushima plant, groundwater mixing with melted fuel — Gundersen: There’s no end in sight because the nuclear core is in contact with groundwater (VIDEO) [ http://ur1.ca/gfx9h ]	Jan 17 11:30
Sosumi	captain obvious	Jan 17 11:30
Sosumi	the fairewinds associates guy has been telling that since almost forever	Jan 17 11:31
DaemonFC	I don't think Red Hat is doing anything wrong here.	Jan 17 11:34
DaemonFC	I don't know why you'd distrust their binaries and trust the ones someone else gave you.	Jan 17 11:35
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schestowitz	Here's the DC definition of "reform" http://pic.twitter.com/qjp7WHcUyU	Jan 17 12:16
TechrightsBot-tr	pic.twitter.com \| NO TITLE	Jan 17 12:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GrahamTempleton/status/424227209457315840	Jan 17 12:20
TechrightsBot-tr	@GrahamTempleton: @schestowitz I hate the NSA as much as anyone, but really? Another Taliban because of a speech?	Jan 17 12:20
schestowitz	No, the reluctance to do anything about spies running a nation rather than Congress	Jan 17 12:20
schestowitz	http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/03/03/obama-speechwriter-jon-favreau-leaves-west-wing-for-screenwriting/Evt7Rtg5ax9dwbnVjFfOgJ/story.html	Jan 17 12:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bostonglobe.com \| Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau leaves West Wing for screenwriting - Politics - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/gfxng ]	Jan 17 12:23
DaemonFC	I just bought the new humble bundle.	Jan 17 12:53
DaemonFC	I hate Paypal, but I use them because the Humble Bundle says their fees are the lowest.	Jan 17 12:54
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iophk	speaking of infrastructure earlier...	Jan 17 13:13
iophk	no apparent date, but probably from 2013 : https://medium.com/matter/406a9f0d4166/	Jan 17 13:13
iophk	"In Massachusetts alone, over 140 million cubic metres of gas was lost every year. Nationwide, the figure was over 8 billion cubic metres"	Jan 17 13:13
TechrightsBot-tr	medium.com \| The environmental scandal that’s happening right beneath your feet — Matter — Medium	Jan 17 13:13
iophk	maybe not 2013	Jan 17 13:19
MinceR	schestowitz: allegedly Scientific Linux is better anyway	Jan 17 13:36
MinceR	and i prefer #! and Debian over either anyway	Jan 17 13:37
iophk	Debian is the way to go on servers.	Jan 17 13:38
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iophk	"F.B.I. investigators examined all of Ms. Kelley’s emails as a routine step"	Jan 17 14:58
iophk	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/06/us/from-petraeus-scandal-an-apostle-for-privacy.html	Jan 17 14:58
TechrightsBot-tr	myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gfyh1 ]	Jan 17 14:58
schestowitz__	iophk: debian the" standard" OS where I work	Jan 17 15:00
iophk	nice	Jan 17 15:01
schestowitz__	but some clients use other OSes (not internal though)	Jan 17 15:01
schestowitz__	so must know all kinds, mostly rhel clones and debian/ubuntu	Jan 17 15:01
iophk	it's got about a 3-year support cycle	Jan 17 15:01
iophk	which is not long but not short either	Jan 17 15:01
schestowitz__	have internal debian mirrors, too	Jan 17 15:01
schestowitz__	wasn't debian 5 years?	Jan 17 15:01
iophk	internal mirrors greatly speed up	Jan 17 15:01
schestowitz__	3 years for releases?	Jan 17 15:01
iophk	last I checked it was about 3 years...	Jan 17 15:02
schestowitz__	!google debian 6 year support	Jan 17 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - DebianReleases - Debian Wiki \| https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases	Jan 17 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Squeeze - Debian Wiki \| https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze/	Jan 17 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Debian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian	Jan 17 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Debian User Forums • View topic - [SOLVED] Debian life time \| http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D20%26t%3D77711	Jan 17 15:02
schestowitz__	typo	Jan 17 15:02
schestowitz__	woody at 1442 days	Jan 17 15:03
iophk	see "Total lifetime"	Jan 17 15:03
iophk	https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases	Jan 17 15:03
TechrightsBot-tr	wiki.debian.org \| DebianReleases - Debian Wiki	Jan 17 15:03
iophk	yes its about 1000 days for the rest	Jan 17 15:03
schestowitz__	yeah, so it's no better than ubuntu lts	Jan 17 15:05
MinceR	except that it is	Jan 17 15:07
iophk	ubuntu LTS is 5 years now, even for desktops	Jan 17 15:07
iophk	I'd still stay with Debian for the servers however	Jan 17 15:07
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iophk	http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/tech/web/response-obama-nsa-speech/	Jan 17 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.cnn.com \| Anti-NSA activists don't like Obama speech - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/gfyko ]	Jan 17 15:20
iophk	"activists"	Jan 17 15:20
MinceR	apparently that's a dirty word now	Jan 17 15:21
iophk	They're also not necessarily "anti-" NSA either. The objections have been to specific actions.	Jan 17 15:30
iophk	I would have said it was a bait title but the summary includes the terms, too.	Jan 17 15:32
Sosumi	activist rhymes with terrorist	Jan 17 15:34
iophk	as far as law enforcement in the US goes, I gather they are treated similarly.	Jan 17 15:35
Sosumi	so, "dirty word" indeed	Jan 17 15:35
Sosumi	:(	Jan 17 15:35
iophk	!low-grade terrorism	Jan 17 15:35
iophk	!google low-grade terorrism	Jan 17 15:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - "Low Grade Racial Terrorism” in Oregon --Words Have No Meaning ... \| http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t965984/	Jan 17 15:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Iran Plots a Low-Grade Nuclear Attack Which Israel ... - DEBKAfile \| http://www.debka.com/article/21947/Iran-Plots-a-Low-Grade-Nuclear-Attack-Which-Israel-Must-Forestall	Jan 17 15:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Volgograd bombings: Russia mustn't give in to this low-grade terror ... \| http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/30/russia-low-grade-terror-separatists	Jan 17 15:36
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Freakonomics » Terrorism, Part II \| http://freakonomics.com/2007/08/09/terrorism-part-ii/	Jan 17 15:36
iophk	hmm different results there	Jan 17 15:36
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 17 15:36
Sosumi	!google abdelhakim belhadj volgograd	Jan 17 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Global Jihad - WHO IS ABDELHAKIM BELHAJ? \| http://www.globaljihad.net/view_page.asp%3Fid%3D2136	Jan 17 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Jack Straw sued over illegal rendition of Abdel Hakim Belhadj ... \| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9210758/Jack-Straw-sued-over-illegal-rendition-of-Abdel-Hakim-Belhadj.html	Jan 17 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Libyan commander Abdelhakim Belhadj withdraws cooperation from ... \| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8999176/Libyan-commander-Abdelhakim-Belhadj-withdraws-cooperation-from-Britain-torture-inquiry.html	Jan 17 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Libyan rebel leader Abdulhakim Belhadj sues British Government ... \| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8966794/Libyan-rebel-leader-Abdulhakim-Belhadj-sues-British-Government-over-rendition.html	Jan 17 15:37
Sosumi	nothing interesting	Jan 17 15:38
iophk	seems to have fallen out of Google lately then	Jan 17 15:39
Sosumi	and that is kind of putting lipstick on the pig	Jan 17 15:39
Sosumi	that dude was behind the spain train bombings	Jan 17 15:39
Sosumi	back in 2004	Jan 17 15:39
Sosumi	years later he is glorified as the honorable "rebel" commander fighting the gadhafi	Jan 17 15:40
Sosumi	government in libya	Jan 17 15:40
Sosumi	not gadhafi was good, but Belhadj	Jan 17 15:41
Sosumi	pff	Jan 17 15:41
Sosumi	the butcher of madrid	Jan 17 15:41
Sosumi	!google abdelhakim belhadj butcher of madrid	Jan 17 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Abdelhakim Belhadj - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelhakim_Belhadj	Jan 17 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Was the Gaza Flotilla Massacre a Turkish-Israeli False Flag and ... \| http://empirestrikesblack.com/2012/02/was-the-gaza-flotilla-massacre-a-turkish-israeli-false-flag-and-precursor-to-the-war-on-syria/	Jan 17 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Libya and the Infamy of Freedom and Democracy \| LIBYA AGAINST ... \| http://libyaagainstsuperpowermedia.org/libya-the-whole-truth-about-libya-and-the-facts-of-what-really-took-place-from-the-beginning-of-february-2011-till-today/libya-and-the-infamy-of-freedom-and-democracy/	Jan 17 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Middle East Master Plan toward War and Fascism \| nsnbc international \| http://nsnbc.me/2012/07/13/middle-east-master-plan-towards-war-and-fascism-2/	Jan 17 15:42
Sosumi	all crap	Jan 17 15:42
iophk	"If the FCC actually wants to ensure net neutrality, it will have do something that every regulator in every other developed country did a long time ago. (It will also turn Verizon litigiously apoplectic.) It has to unmake the mistake it made in 2002, when it failed to classify cable Internet providers as telecommunications services. Doing so will solve everything. "	Jan 17 15:42
iophk	http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-17/solving-the-net-neutrality-problem-is-actually-very-very-simple	Jan 17 15:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.businessweek.com \| Solving the Net Neutrality Problem Is Actually Very Simple - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/gfyo1 ]	Jan 17 15:42
Sosumi	http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/the-evidence-of-al-qaidas-role-in-the-2004-madrid-attack	Jan 17 15:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ctc.usma.edu \| The Evidence of Al-Qa`ida’s Role in the 2004 Madrid Attack \| Combating Terrorism Center at West Point [ http://ur1.ca/gfyoe ]	Jan 17 15:43
Sosumi	but volgograd was sponsored by one of US's favorite regimes	Jan 17 15:46
Sosumi	the KSA	Jan 17 15:46
Sosumi	and kind of seems like having Bandar Bin Sultan's fingerprints all over it	Jan 17 15:47
Sosumi	aka Bandar Bush :)	Jan 17 15:47
Sosumi	I guess that has become another household name	Jan 17 15:47
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sebsebseb	jono: ping	Jan 17 15:57
sebsebseb	jono: I think you can help me get some Ubuntu stuff for an event possibly	Jan 17 15:58
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DaemonFC	Firefox will be the default web browser on Kubuntu 14.04	Jan 17 17:36
sebsebseb	DaemonFC will be a Microsoft employee	Jan 17 17:43
MinceR	the revolution will not be televised	Jan 17 17:43
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Sosumi	and crapple and micro$oft will merge	Jan 17 18:57
Sosumi	giving rise to crapple$oft	Jan 17 18:57
MinceR	that will not necessarily be visible	Jan 17 18:57
MinceR	they might prefer to keep the current false dichotomy	Jan 17 18:57
Sosumi	^^	Jan 17 18:57
Sosumi	gn	Jan 17 18:58
MinceR	o/	Jan 17 18:58
Sosumi	?	Jan 17 19:04
Sosumi	just now	Jan 17 19:04
MinceR	it's ascii art of a man waving (head and arm)	Jan 17 19:04
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/malware-vendors-buy-chrome-extensions-to-send-adware-filled-updates/	Jan 17 19:04
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Adware vendors buy Chrome Extensions to send ad- and malware-filled updates \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gg028 ]	Jan 17 19:04
Sosumi	lol :)	Jan 17 19:04
Sosumi	I guess that'd also work out with firefox	Jan 17 19:05
MinceR	when will people realize that pushing "updates" without asking is unacceptable?	Jan 17 19:05
Sosumi	and safari	Jan 17 19:05
Sosumi	the common user? never	Jan 17 19:06
Sosumi	duno if IE accepts extensions	Jan 17 19:06
MinceR	of course it does	Jan 17 19:06
MinceR	toolbars, primarily	Jan 17 19:06
Sosumi	ho, those	Jan 17 19:07
Sosumi	lol	Jan 17 19:07
Sosumi	I've heard of the malignant IE toolbars	Jan 17 19:10
Sosumi	but at least I've been fortunate enough to never see them	Jan 17 19:11
MinceR	gn	Jan 17 19:27
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schestowitz__	Avoid #ixquick aka #startpage - it ceased being about #privacy (like #ddg now) https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3527347 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3527349 the company confirms	Jan 17 21:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I can no longer use or recommend #startpage and #iquick - expanded from .NL to NYC (NYPD/FBI/NSA), uses MSFT for images, does #google ads	Jan 17 21:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's easy to assume that #iquick lost its commitment to #privacy now, just like #DDG (Amazon). "google is everywhere" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3520345	Jan 17 21:04
TechrightsBot-tr	Not a Diaspora post?	Jan 17 21:04
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3523012	Jan 17 21:10
TechrightsBot-tr	@anonymiss@despora.de: ### How do you recognize the NSA #headquarter?	Jan 17 21:10
schestowitz__	says she's violating the constitution, but they taught her how to close that pesky warning window	Jan 17 21:10
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MinceR	schestowitz__: so what's next? google via Tor?	Jan 18 08:45
MinceR	geekings	Jan 18 08:55
iophk	http://seekingalpha.com/news/1510211-microsoft-reportedly-paying-oems-2_6b-in-2014-to-make-windows-phones	Jan 18 10:29
TechrightsBot-tr	seekingalpha.com \| Microsoft Corporation (MSFT): Microsoft reportedly paying OEMs $2.6B in 2014 to make Windows Phones - Seeking Alpha [ http://ur1.ca/gg43h ]	Jan 18 10:29
iophk	http://seekingalpha.com/news/1512031	Jan 18 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr	seekingalpha.com \| Microsoft Corporation (MSFT): Microsoft denies WP payment report; Xbox exec departs - Seeking Alpha	Jan 18 10:30
iophk	what are the real numbers then?	Jan 18 10:31
Sosumi	so, windows mobile is so bad that M$ has to bribe OEMs	Jan 18 10:41
Sosumi	lol	Jan 18 10:41
iophk	yes, like with regular windows, too.	Jan 18 10:41
Sosumi	well, captain obvious :)	Jan 18 10:41
Sosumi	hopefully in the future OEMs will start shipping PCs with android out of the box for some limited functionality	Jan 18 10:43
MinceR	hopefully that android won't have to be virtualized on top of winblows	Jan 18 10:43
Sosumi	like downloading some flavor of gnu/linux, bsd and creating an usb stick	Jan 18 10:44
Sosumi	for install	Jan 18 10:44
MinceR	(building a castle on a swamp...)	Jan 18 10:44
Sosumi	and we'd finally get rid of the windows tax	Jan 18 10:45
Sosumi	AND, the OEMs would no longer have to deal with M$	Jan 18 10:46
Sosumi	so, both the customer and the OEM would win	Jan 18 10:46
Sosumi	specially in peace of mind	Jan 18 10:46
Sosumi	ho, I meant native android	Jan 18 10:52
Sosumi	just to give basic functionality to the machine for those reasons I mentioned	Jan 18 10:52
Sosumi	basically just to download a OS and create a bootable USB/cd	Jan 18 10:53
iophk	http://www.roguelynn.com/prism/	Jan 18 11:27
iophk	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q31as1qpkvw	Jan 18 11:27
iophk	from August	Jan 18 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.roguelynn.com \| PRISM-as-a-Service: Not Subject to American Law — Lynn Root	Jan 18 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| PRISM-AS-A-SERVICE: Not Subject to American Law - Lynn Root - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gg5q5 ]	Jan 18 11:27
iophk	http://en.rsf.org/turkey-parliament-urged-to-rejected-18-01-2014,45745.html	Jan 18 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr	en.rsf.org \| Parliament urged to rejected draconian Internet bill - Reporters Without Borders [ http://ur1.ca/gg5r7 ]	Jan 18 11:37
iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/01/18/how-policymakers-enabled-the-internet/	Jan 18 11:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| How Policymakers Enabled The Internet - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gg5se ]	Jan 18 11:42
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MinceR	http://kep.cdn.index.hu/1/0/535/5358/53584/5358486_6283c6b5519441f832b9fd6299c0c1ee_wm.jpg	Jan 18 12:52
Sosumi	still better than newer versions of vista failing to boot with secure boot enabled	Jan 18 13:48
Sosumi	and instead they enter into some repair mode and force you to shutdown	Jan 18 13:48
Sosumi	just saw that happen at an university workstation this morning	Jan 18 13:49
Sosumi	and I should also mention that it had been updated to vista 8.1 enterprise like 3 days ago	Jan 18 13:50
Sosumi	after turning it on again it just loaded winblows with no problem	Jan 18 13:51
Sosumi	also, no error report generated	Jan 18 13:51
Sosumi	or I just couldn't find it	Jan 18 13:51
Sosumi	morals of the story	Jan 18 13:57
Sosumi	M$ can't even make their stuff work well on the crap they shovel onto others	Jan 18 13:57
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Sosumi	aka secure boot	Jan 18 13:58
iophk	http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/2014-year-you-play-penguin	Jan 18 14:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcper.com \| Is 2014 the year you play with the penguin? \| PC Perspective [ http://ur1.ca/gg7xn ]	Jan 18 14:16
MinceR	newer versions probably leak that info all the same	Jan 18 14:38
MinceR	possibly without even asking	Jan 18 14:38
MinceR	though the article this was in said they sent the report anyway	Jan 18 14:39
Sosumi	http://torrentfreak.com/the-20-most-pirated-artists-of-the-year-a-drop-in-the-ocean-140116/	Jan 18 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| The 20 Most Pirated Artists of The Year: A Drop in The Ocean? \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gg835 ]	Jan 18 14:40
Sosumi	after reading the chart, some part of me died	Jan 18 14:40
Sosumi	what the hell is even a flo rida?	Jan 18 14:41
Sosumi	but ho well	Jan 18 14:41
MinceR	:>	Jan 18 14:42
Sosumi	I just finished "pirating" tchaikovski's entire discography	Jan 18 14:42
Sosumi	in flac ofc	Jan 18 14:43
Sosumi	so I guess I'll be a happy camper for the rest of the weekend	Jan 18 14:43
MinceR	:)	Jan 18 14:48
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iophk	http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/hardware/slumping-intel-to-cut-more-than-5000-jobs-in-2014/articleshow/28989318.cms	Jan 18 14:59
TechrightsBot-tr	economictimes.indiatimes.com \| Slumping Intel to cut more than 5,000 jobs in 2014 - The Economic Times [ http://ur1.ca/gg87t ]	Jan 18 14:59
schestowitz__	cool	Jan 18 14:59
schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences	Jan 18 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/4qw0f ]	Jan 18 15:02
iophk	IBM is re-investing in PowerPC ...	Jan 18 15:02
iophk	but that will be mostly servers	Jan 18 15:02
iophk	Oracle dropped the ball when it got Sparc. It could have done really well.	Jan 18 15:03
MinceR	oracle could have done many things well, and did none of it	Jan 18 15:03
iophk	True	Jan 18 15:03
schestowitz__	!google larry ellison nsa	Jan 18 15:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Oracle CEO Larry Ellison: NSA surveillance is "essential" - CBS News \| http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-nsa-surveillance-is-essential/	Jan 18 15:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Larry Ellison: NSA Spying Is 'Essential' - Business Insider \| http://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-nsa-spying-is-essential-2013-8	Jan 18 15:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Oracle's Larry Ellison calls Google 'absolutely evil,' says NSA ... \| http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/13/4617690/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-cbs-this-morning-full-interview	Jan 18 15:04
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Larry Ellison, Oracle CEO: NSA Surveillance Is 'Great' - Huffington Post \| http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-nsa_n_3752312.html	Jan 18 15:04
schestowitz__	CBS 'news'	Jan 18 15:04
schestowitz__	Business Insider is funded by Anderrseen	Jan 18 15:04
schestowitz__	Who is STRONGLY pro-NSA	Jan 18 15:04
schestowitz__	and also slams Wikileaks et al.	Jan 18 15:04
schestowitz__	Just shows you how US press works	Jan 18 15:04
schestowitz__	[4] is AOL	Jan 18 15:05
schestowitz__	so much for Huff Puff serving the public	Jan 18 15:05
schestowitz__	like guardian.... in the UK... mere pretenders	Jan 18 15:05
schestowitz__	hijacking the voice of the people	Jan 18 15:05
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Sosumi	http://rt.com/usa/texas-police-handcuff-change-homeless-795/	Jan 18 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gg8lt ]	Jan 18 15:46
Sosumi	eugenics and neo-darwinism at best	Jan 18 15:46
Sosumi	Texas cops handcuff man after he gave change to homeless person	Jan 18 15:46
Sosumi	if he's unfit to survive, let him die	Jan 18 15:47
Sosumi	survival of the fittest, until...	Jan 18 15:47
Sosumi	you look at the system and all you see are the now "unfit" trying to hold power	Jan 18 15:48
MinceR	survival of the fittest? good bye, humans...	Jan 18 15:48
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Sosumi	you are human too, you know?	Jan 18 15:49
Sosumi	or have you already transcended your humanity and thus your mortality by uploading your consciousness into the web?	Jan 18 15:51
MinceR	and i might not live forever, either	Jan 18 15:53
Sosumi	that is why you employ redundancy	Jan 18 15:53
Sosumi	plus, even if that was actually the case, your copy would be just another life, but with your memories, free to do whatever "it" wanted	Jan 18 15:55
Sosumi	on that I oppose ray kurzweil and some other nuttjobs	Jan 18 15:56
Sosumi	and I'm more about preserving the original being rather than letting his body wither and die	Jan 18 15:56
Sosumi	and relying on a copy that is no longer the real being	Jan 18 15:57
MinceR	and how do you know that?	Jan 18 15:57
Sosumi	and if we talk just mind upload	Jan 18 15:57
Sosumi	it doesn't even have the genetic predispositions of the original	Jan 18 15:57
Sosumi	it is simple, there will be a point in which the original and copy will diverge in choices and choose different paths	Jan 18 15:58
Sosumi	even if the probability of that happening is small	Jan 18 15:59
Sosumi	specially if the copy doesn't know it is a copy	Jan 18 15:59
MinceR	so, in the many-worlds interpretation, you're not yourself?	Jan 18 16:00
Sosumi	I'm a different me in another world	Jan 18 16:01
Sosumi	in a different world I might have taken upon myself the career of a porn director	Jan 18 16:01
Sosumi	instead of a physicist/computer scientist	Jan 18 16:02
Sosumi	still student, but who cares	Jan 18 16:02
Sosumi	maybe in another world I might have been born with a different gender	Jan 18 16:03
Sosumi	still me, but a different me,	Jan 18 16:03
Sosumi	in other words, a different possibility and a being with its own experiences/memories	Jan 18 16:04
Sosumi	but maybe if you take some lsd, you'll find out	Jan 18 16:12
Sosumi	but I can guarantee that there'll be some side effects	Jan 18 16:12
Sosumi	like changing the font on your pc to helvetica neue	Jan 18 16:12
Sosumi	:P	Jan 18 16:12
MinceR	ew	Jan 18 16:13
Sosumi	there had to be some apple jokes at one point	Jan 18 16:14
Sosumi	in this case two	Jan 18 16:14
Sosumi	the porn director joke and the lsd joke	Jan 18 16:15
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DaemonFC	schestowitz: We need to keep an eye out on what happens to Product Activation after Windows XP goes EOL.	Jan 18 17:45
DaemonFC	If Microsoft stops activating re-installs of Windows XP, we should be sure to beat them over the head with that and remind users of supported versions what will happen to them later.	Jan 18 17:45
DaemonFC	XP is the first version of Windows with Product Activation that is going to go end of life. It has been about 13 years since I first wondered what would happen when XP went EOL. It took a long time for the answer because Microsoft didn't plan to support Windows XP for even half as long as they did. The Windows "Longhorn" / Vista catastrophe set them back several years, and they ended up having to extend Windows XP's lifecycle to cover all of the	Jan 18 17:50
DaemonFC	people that refused Vista. Post-Vista PC sales have been slowing down, especially lately, because many people are moving to Android phones and tablets, and many people see their existing XP machines that can't run the latest bloated versions of Windows as "good enough" to run their office software and web browser.	Jan 18 17:50
MinceR	this is relevant to my interests	Jan 18 17:51
DaemonFC	MinceR: Well, there are like millions and millions of people who might have activation difficulties after April.	Jan 18 17:51
DaemonFC	Their computers can't run anything newer from Microsoft.	Jan 18 17:51
MinceR	maybe it will be a learning experience for them	Jan 18 17:52
DaemonFC	I suspect they'll be pissed, if they understand what just happened.	Jan 18 17:52
MinceR	http://www.queerty.com/the-closet-cases-that-fan-the-flames-of-russian-homophobia-20140114/	Jan 18 18:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.queerty.com \| The Closet Cases That Fan The Flames Of Russian Homophobia / Queerty [ http://ur1.ca/gg9ho ]	Jan 18 18:06
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Sosumi	you know, those folks still using xp and that don't want to change to something better	Jan 18 18:14
Sosumi	could always use a crack	Jan 18 18:14
Sosumi	but indeed the activation issue, if m$ pulls the plug	Jan 18 18:15
Sosumi	will be a good a bashing point	Jan 18 18:15
DaemonFC	shared a link via Lifehacker.	Jan 18 18:22
DaemonFC	5 minutes ago	Jan 18 18:22
DaemonFC	http://lifehac.kr/BtQeKZb	Jan 18 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	lifehacker.com \| Winamp Rises From the Ashes, Will Live On Under Radionomy	Jan 18 18:22
DaemonFC	That's not good, because Winamp is proprietary software, and the world would be better off if there was no proprietary software at all.	Jan 18 18:22
DaemonFC	I used to use Winamp when I used Windows 98, which came with this awful unusable media player from Microsoft called Windows Media Player. But, that was back when Nullsoft was an independent company, before AOL took it over, and Justin Frankel was still in charge. After AOL took Winamp over, it ballooned in size because of their adware, spyware, and spam. It went from this efficient media player that was under 10 MB in size to this huge bloated	Jan 18 18:22
DaemonFC	monstrosity that was just as bad as anything Microsoft has ever written.	Jan 18 18:22
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MinceR	gn	Jan 18 19:07
Sosumi	not a fan of winamp, but better have it than limiting choice to itunes and monkey player	Jan 18 19:11
Sosumi	so that way they kind of try to keep each other in check and don't screw their users as much	Jan 18 19:12
Sosumi	also gn	Jan 18 19:15
Sosumi	and beware of the evil doppelgänger from another dimension	Jan 18 19:16
MinceR	i guess i'll just have to kill them to gain their power	Jan 18 19:19
Sosumi	you know you can't just kill them all, right?	Jan 18 19:22
Sosumi	multiple universes implies infinite possibilities	Jan 18 19:22
Sosumi	thus infinite doppelgänger	Jan 18 19:22
Sosumi	nice things to entertain the thought but without the money you can't actually prove them	Jan 18 19:24
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_One_%282001_film%29	Jan 18 19:25
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| The One (2001 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gg9wd ]	Jan 18 19:25
Sosumi	unless it is about killing people	Jan 18 19:25
Sosumi	http://rt.com/usa/us-military-testing-smart-rifles-796/	Jan 18 19:25
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gg333 ]	Jan 18 19:25
Sosumi	US Army testing precision guided ‘smart’ rifles - report	Jan 18 19:25
Sosumi	because apparently guts and brains sprayed on a wall is what matters	Jan 18 19:26
Sosumi	just a movie with a cheesy plot	Jan 18 19:30
Sosumi	and probably tried to ride on the matrix bandwagon	Jan 18 19:31
Sosumi	kind of like the "13th floor"	Jan 18 19:31
Sosumi	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirteenth_Floor	Jan 18 19:32
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| The Thirteenth Floor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gga0r ]	Jan 18 19:32
Sosumi	about simulated universes	Jan 18 19:32
Sosumi	on the case of the movie, it is about a simulation inside a simulation	Jan 18 19:33
Sosumi	cheesy, but tries to raise questions about the nature of reality	Jan 18 19:34
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DaemonFC	http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/14/aol-sells-winamp-and-shoutcast-for-5-10m-to-radionomy-takes-12-stake-in-belgian-digital-audio-company/	Jan 18 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	techcrunch.com \| AOL Sells Winamp And Shoutcast For $5-10M To Radionomy, Takes 12% Stake In Belgian Digital Audio Startup \| TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gga3f ]	Jan 18 19:49
DaemonFC	Didn't AOL spend over $100 million to buy Nullsoft in the late 90s?	Jan 18 19:49
DaemonFC	So they lost most of their money in absolute terms, and all of more than all of their money when you adjust for inflation.	Jan 18 19:50
DaemonFC	*all or more than all	Jan 18 19:50
DaemonFC	"Recall that AOL paid some $80 million for Nullsoft, owner of Winamp and Shoutcast, in 1999."	Jan 18 19:51
DaemonFC	ahhh	Jan 18 19:51
DaemonFC	I recall that due to Winamp's design, it was impossible for them to distribute it as a 64-bit application.	Jan 18 19:53
DaemonFC	If they did that, then all of the binary-only plugins would break in the 64-bit version.	Jan 18 19:53
DaemonFC	They couldn't recompile the plugins because most of them are proprietary and from other companies. Some were proprietary and created by companies and people that went out of business or no longer maintain them.	Jan 18 19:54
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