IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: December 7th, 2014-December 13th, 2014

schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5260001	Dec 07 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android motorcycle helmet open for pre-order http://linuxgizmos.com/skuly-android-motorcycle-helmet-open-for-pre-order/ #android #linux		Dec 07 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Android motorcycle helmet open for pre-order · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/j18mg ]		Dec 07 00:26
schestowitz__	"As someone who rode cycles quite a lot when I was younger, this sounds like a bad idea. You want all of your attention on THE ROAD, not a half-ton of info 2 inches in front of your nose."	Dec 07 00:26
schestowitz__	""	Dec 07 00:27
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schestowitz__	"This sounds like a very bad idea."	Dec 07 00:27
schestowitz__	Maybe text reading while you ride... next, adding "OK Google" to type some...	Dec 07 00:27
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5264411	Dec 07 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #phoronix Linux Test Farm http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1NDg great stuff		Dec 07 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Preview Of The Massive New Open-Source, Linux Test Farm [ http://ur1.ca/j18mt ]		Dec 07 00:28
schestowitz__	http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1801548g64.gif	Dec 07 00:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 7/12/2014: Typhoon Hagupit, AURORAGOLD	Dec 07 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RlQVdxOrrO (techrights.org)	Dec 07 01:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 7/12/2014: Typhoon Hagupit, AURORAGOLD \| Techrights		Dec 07 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/3ZMN8Zud25	Dec 07 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 01:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 01:37
cubexyz	schestowitz, or whoever is reading...	Dec 07 07:28
cubexyz	I had to explicitly block some microsoft urls from my adsense	Dec 07 07:28
cubexyz	I saw a few "upgrade to windows 8.1" ads on my blog	Dec 07 07:29
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5264523	Dec 07 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Mimik		Dec 07 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_14c3dc0093bf2fa11914.jpeg		Dec 07 08:13
schestowitz__	"cute kitten dreams of nothing but murder all day."	Dec 07 08:14
schestowitz__	cubexyz: that's their target audience	Dec 07 08:14
schestowitz__	trying to convert the other side	Dec 07 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/Vem7P0AjdR	Dec 07 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 08:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ubuntu and canonical Chasing the wrong problems	Dec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OXNMv1DHyE (benjaminkerensa.com)	Dec 07 08:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjaminkerensa.com \| Chasing the wrong problems – Benjamin Kerensa		Dec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FirefoxOS tethering in action	Dec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G0ju27CaPd	Dec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines	(mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 07 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk \| Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Hotspots: My Firefox OS phone saved the day		Dec 07 08:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up	Dec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines	Arch Linux http://t.co/G7iyCrqEZ9	Dec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 08:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up Arch Linux		Dec 07 08:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chasing the wrong problems	Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UVQoUwh5yh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 09:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Chasing the wrong problems \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up	Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	Arch Linux http://t.co/PeerV7QPSj	Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 09:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up Arch Linux \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,	Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/JG2PqCUvKQ	Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 09:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired, GNOME-Aligned Desktop		Dec 07 09:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/541544986379300864	Dec 07 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz what is remarkable is that even their censored truth is too damaging to release...that says a lot right there.		Dec 07 10:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Continues its March into the	Dec 07 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprise http://t.co/chBpBYSVcI	Dec 07 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 11:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source Continues its March into the Enterprise \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pydio: open source alternative to Dropbox & Box	Dec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LQgXwdBu1y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 11:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Pydio: open source alternative to Dropbox & Box \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,	Dec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/nvzE8AI6ib	Dec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 11:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired, GNOME-Aligned Desktop \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 11:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/metacode/status/541554416491696129	Dec 07 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@metacode: Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop http://t.co/ZKGCGKW9cN (@schestowitz) "The Babe of Neoliberalism"		Dec 07 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ukprogressive.co.uk \| Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop \| UK Progressive		Dec 07 11:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541558895265607681	Dec 07 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz And thank you to @timberners_lee for the HTML groundwork. Adobe DRM will still be in HTML5 but that's better than #adobe Trash.		Dec 07 11:48
schestowitz	No, @timberners_lee messed up in a very big way by endorsing #drm in #html5 after #mpaa had paid #w3c	Dec 07 11:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541561640601149440	Dec 07 11:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I said thanks to him for HTML. I'm not convinced DRM can be kept out of HTML5. Regardless, better than Flash.		Dec 07 11:57
schestowitz	It was already out of HTML. Then came HTML5 and with support from TimBL and Mozilla (among others) DRM got in.	Dec 07 11:58
DaemonFC	schestowitz, A friend's iPhone got hijacked by malware and started sending me pornographic spam on Facebook.	Dec 07 11:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840 https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566316067295233 https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566614290706432	Dec 07 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not exist		Dec 07 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I think this is a compromise that at least can help us throw out the Trash. But I understand why it's not ideal		Dec 07 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: .@schestowitz @timberners_lee Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?		Dec 07 12:42
schestowitz	DaemonFC: was the pr0n at least good, or just some spam URLs?	Dec 07 12:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840	Dec 07 12:43
schestowitz	"Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?"	Dec 07 12:43
DaemonFC	Stuff like "Hook up with women in your local area."	Dec 07 12:43
DaemonFC	That link is dead, according to Twitter.	Dec 07 12:44
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schestowitz	.@petrock I don't think DRM is needed at all, except by the copyright monopoly, which we don't need (should adapt to - not tame - WWW)	Dec 07 12:45
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MinceR	(nsfw) http://de1.eu.apcdn.com/full/126290.jpg	Dec 07 13:45
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/5415893284936https://twitter.com/petrock/status/54158932849369088090880	Dec 07 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not exist		Dec 07 14:17
schestowitz	No, common error. DRM exists in some areas, but in others it struggles to gain traction, e.g. Web. Tim B-L ushered it in.	Dec 07 14:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541599086319640576	Dec 07 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz In practice, people are installing "Trash" to access media served through the web browser. Isn't this better if not perfect?		Dec 07 14:42
schestowitz	People installed Trash to play YouTube (they no longer need to do this). I don't know people using it for DRM stuff (rarity)	Dec 07 14:43
MinceR	even for videos with ads?	Dec 07 14:47
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541604604903825408	Dec 07 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I know a lot of people who use Trash to stream movies and sports. Youtube is a big player but not the only big player.		Dec 07 14:50
schestowitz	MinceR: meh	Dec 07 14:50
schestowitz	either way, we don't rely much on DRM	Dec 07 14:51
schestowitz	streams and DRM are separate things	Dec 07 14:51
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schestowitz	"I don't know who are your usual sources around the EPO. Check with them in case you have doubts on the authenticity. This is my first and last email ever."	Dec 07 15:54
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856	Dec 07 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.		Dec 07 18:48
schestowitz__	the only thing that doesn't work yet is pausing a video and resuming it a long time later, like the next day; it plays for a while (what's still cached in the buffer) and then displays an error. With flash it reloads the vid and resumes playing; not very beautiful either but at least it works""	Dec 07 18:48
schestowitz__	"I'm glad to see that Flash is no longer required. As good as the plug-in might be for some, especially for streaming TV channels, it opens up a can of worms in the form of invasive advertisements."	Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__	"So Youtube's no skip ads are only their own design???"	Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__	"With a plug-in like Ghostery, which blocks tracking cookies, the "no skip" ads don't come up."	Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__	"Thanks for that, and when I have an up to date real Chrome, (my defunct Linux distro has an ancient Chromium that Google Play refuses to talk to), and I have bandwidth of my own, I may get it. Still, are there NO free lunches left in this world?"	Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265594	Dec 07 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "if the report is not released in a way [Udall] deems transparent, he would consider all options to make it public " http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115		Dec 07 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.esquire.com \| Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]		Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__	Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.	Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__	My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'	Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5251963	Dec 07 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google Can Now Tell You’re Not a Robot With Just One Click http://www.wired.com/2014/12/google-one-click-recaptcha/ #google #security #captcha		Dec 07 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com \| Google Can Now Tell You're Not a Robot With Just One Click \| WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/j1feq ]		Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.	Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'	Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	Which magically makes them "good" for privacy	Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5263442	Dec 07 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: B&N should take #microsoft to court again, both for #extortion and for #bribery http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-barnes-noble-end-nook-marriage-for-62-million/ http://techrights.org/2014/12/06/bribes-against-linux/		Dec 07 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com \| Microsoft, B&N dissolve Nook marriage for $62 million - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffd ]		Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__	Oh wait, I forgot about the $1.7 billion dollar share of B&N that Microsoft stole as part of their "deal". Was that announced at the time or did they play some kind of shell game where the value only became evident as Microsoft unloaded the shares onto "institutional investors" who strangely enough think it's worthless today? The $300 in cash may still have served as a bribe despite the larger cost to B&N shareholders. Board members	Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__	and executives would have been paid off with it.	Dec 07 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| The Threat is Not Over: Microsoft Bribes Against Linux Adoption and in Favour of Extortion Against Linux \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j189l ]		Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__	Now Microsoft is handing themselves another $67 million and CNet spins that as Nook being worthless. After Microsoft ruined them it might be, but that's not an inherent problem or the nature of things.	Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__	"Rape labeled "marriage" in article."	Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__	The power of spin	Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5259958	Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2014/court-ruling-paves-the-way-for-european-court-of-human-rights-to-consider-%E2%80%9Cprivacy-not-prism%E2%80%9D-case #privacy #prism		Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	"Governments have abandoned brutality? Or just made it less public and gory? I lived in China for 12 years. There brutality is present and endemic in both the governed and the government."	Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffr ]		Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	I was responding to the first comment	Dec 07 18:55
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265940	Dec 07 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whether the Senate ends up 'declassifying' (publishing) the whole #torture report, #wyden #udall or some unknown source will 'leak' it		Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	This feels a bit too evasive to me:	Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115	Dec 07 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esquire.com \| Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]		Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265879	Dec 07 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #udall does not need to do much except read out the blacked out bits in the Senate's #torture report. Someone will transcribe, merge.		Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	"My impression is that this 'reading' isn't even anywhere as hard as it sounds. He just has to give the word, and they'll put it in the Congressional Record."	Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	Even better than	Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__	then	Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265507	Dec 07 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The thing terror cells should fear most is the end of drone strikes and other such violations of intl' law as it would impede their growth		Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__	"Indeed. It must have been hard not to notice the symbiotic relationship between Osama bin Laden and George W. Bush that existed for a few years immediately following 9/11. Obama seems unable to pull that off so that he, rather than just the insurgents, enjoys a propaganda benefit."	Dec 07 18:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live !	Dec 07 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/tj4qwL4mIH (makululinux.com)	Dec 07 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-makululinux.com \| MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live ! \| MakuluLinux		Dec 07 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In	Dec 07 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/JEu5mugwWC	Dec 07 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19		Dec 07 22:13
schestowitz__	cubelog1: http://cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/order-linux-discs.html	Dec 07 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk \| Notes on Linux: Order Linux Discs [ http://ur1.ca/j1gty ]		Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__	"Avoid Systemd by trying AntiX, Slackware or OpenBSD."	Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__	Do you dislike it this much?	Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__	cubexyz ^	Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__	http://www.xombra.com/index.php?do=noticias&nota=6711&op=4&t=xanadu-gnu-linux-busca-beta-te	Dec 07 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xombra.com \| Xanadu GNU/Linux busca beta testers! - xombra.com [ http://ur1.ca/j1gu5 ]		Dec 07 22:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,	Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	But Still Tough Catalyst Fight	Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7dY7UqR9Gv (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight Review		Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage	Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)	Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lGmS2PH0tm (www.mobilenapps.com)	Dec 07 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobilenapps.com \| UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) : Mobile : Mobile & Apps		Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In	Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/xCSCBttZma	Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19 \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	But Still Tough Catalyst Fight	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4QIsXIINRk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqm	Dec 07 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Q4dmnDVSAr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqn	Dec 07 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NINpPoLx2E (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqo	Dec 07 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 22:58
cubexyz	schestowitz, personally yes	Dec 07 23:31
cubexyz	I'm merely pointing out alternatives	Dec 07 23:31
cubexyz	AntiX looks interesting	Dec 07 23:32
cubexyz	the younger linux users seem more in favour of systemd	Dec 07 23:33
cubexyz	if you want systemd there are tons of distros out there to choose from	Dec 07 23:34
cubexyz	if you want to avoid systemd one needs to be more particular	Dec 07 23:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs	Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	Editions Officially Released	Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AJrEi1rYYC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1in7	Dec 07 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steve Kemp (Debian): "I had to fight with the	Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	Debian installer to get the beast working"	Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PxOCHCnMdv (blog.steve.org.uk)	Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1ind	Dec 07 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.org.uk \| I eventually installed Debian on a new desktop.		Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best	Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review	Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/MfU7aDqmmD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1ing	Dec 07 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 23:39
cubexyz	I don't like distros that drop support for 32-bit cpus or that look bad on 4:3 screens	Dec 07 23:40
cubexyz	but that's another blog post for later	Dec 07 23:40
cubexyz	even dropping 486 support is bad I'd say	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released	Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lC2FzbPyrp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1j30	Dec 08 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for	Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/2jUhAASGWp	Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1j33	Dec 08 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for Ubuntu Touch \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Prisoners learning how to code with Linux	Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/m2wPj0zvk3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1j35	Dec 08 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Prisoners learning how to code with Linux \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill	Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	to developers http://t.co/sADvpoOior	Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jfl	Dec 08 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming	Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	To The Galaxy S5 http://t.co/6gIUH1Iczk	Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jfm	Dec 08 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming To The Galaxy S5 \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Og Maciel: "today is my 3-year anniversary at	Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat!"	Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UT15phTPEF (omaciel.github.io)	Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jfn	Dec 08 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-omaciel.github.io \| Three Years and Counting!		Dec 08 00:59
cubexyz	schestowitz, that antiX site you linked to has microsoft ads	Dec 08 01:03
cubexyz	http://www.linuxscreenshots.org	Dec 08 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org \| Linux Distribution Screenshot Tours		Dec 08 01:03
cubexyz	looks like they are targetting linux sites for sure	Dec 08 01:03
cubexyz	I've got microsoft.com blocked, should have done that years ago	Dec 08 01:04
schestowitz__	cubexyz: not internationally	Dec 08 01:04
schestowitz__	through third party	Dec 08 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "I'm glad to announce that I've been awarded a	Dec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	5,000 USD "Flash Grant" by the Shuttleworth	Dec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	Foundation." http://t.co/08bA6PdU14	Dec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	(upsilon.cc)	Dec 08 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-upsilon.cc \| Shuttleworth Foundation Flash Grant		Dec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jhv	Dec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8Bv	Dec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jhw	Dec 08 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung and open source \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; No	Dec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines	Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony Xperia	Dec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iYUKEF8kMT (www.gospelherald.com)	Dec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jhx	Dec 08 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gospelherald.com \| Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; No Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony Xperia \| Gospelherald.com		Dec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has Announced	Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	New Mystery Game http://t.co/mf8731Afhg	Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jor	Dec 08 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has Announced New Mystery Game \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same	Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	Performance as X11 http://t.co/3iByR1xnCL	Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 - Softpedia		Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jos	Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup Looks	Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	Stunning http://t.co/m1GIwPymcr	Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup Looks Stunning - Softpedia		Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jot	Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RHQ 4.13 released http://t.co/IUnRKkeCdZ	Dec 08 01:34
TweetTuxMachines	(pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 08 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk \| Some things to remember: RHQ 4.13 released		Dec 08 01:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jqv	Dec 08 01:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 21 Release on December 9 Confirmed	Dec 08 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BxrDXOph1j (linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kbDJ1qFAVz (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 08 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Fedora 21 Release on December 9 Confirmed - Softpedia		Dec 08 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jqx	Dec 08 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Fedora 21 Is Coming In Just Two Days With Big Improvements		Dec 08 01:35
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8Bv'		Dec 08 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung and open source \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with	Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	New Update http://t.co/nYZBllG3Zv	Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with New Update - Softpedia		Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jt0	Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Quick Start Guide	Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2yWwbvfbX7	Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.adityapatawari.com) essential reading for	Dec 08 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adityapatawari.com \| Docker Quick Start Guide		Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	sysadmins	Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jt1	Dec 08 01:40
*TweetTuxMachines @SteamSwapReddit favourited 'Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with...'		Dec 08 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same	Dec 08 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	Performance as X11 http://t.co/KS1bxBvp1S	Dec 08 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jwk	Dec 08 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/RDhgOFWgEC	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k26	Dec 08 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Features On The Horizon For The Linux	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/7fLaTOO2Xw	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 08 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] New Features On The Horizon For The Linux Kernel		Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k27	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.18 released http://t.co/bGKYm2fSKV	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	(lkml.iu.edu) " It's been a quiet week, and the	Dec 08 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu \| Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 3.18 released		Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	patch from rc7 is tiny, so 3.18 is out."	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k29	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WvX20rMtLj (linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k2a	Dec 08 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released - Softpedia		Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs	Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	Editions Officially Released	Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/V3XzjjSEVt (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k3r	Dec 08 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released - Softpedia		Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best	Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review	Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yUgXnIuHxG (www.forbes.com)	Dec 08 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review - Forbes		Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k3t	Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released	Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5Owov1DKy9 (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k3u	Dec 08 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released - Softpedia		Dec 08 02:11
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778724786429952 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778878419591168	Dec 08 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz heh, I thought you trying to call companies open-sourcing things #openwashing was kinda sad, but #mono theism is funny. :)		Dec 08 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I have a copy of VS 2015 preview installed and they're trying to tie in w/ Xamarin for cross-platform mobile dev. But the		Dec 08 02:20
schestowitz__	all about spreading the API that is a patent threat and domination factor for Microsoft, universally, across devices/platforms	Dec 08 02:20
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779083298762752 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779188017946625	Dec 08 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Xamarin component installer for Windows wouldn't work so I haven't tried making a project. You need a Mac w/ Xcode anyway to		Dec 08 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz do Xamarin development for iOS, and you can do Xamarin on Android from Linux or Mac, so Windows is the worst platform for it.		Dec 08 02:20
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779303692660736	Dec 08 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz except if you want to run on Windows Phone of course. MSFT is trying so hard to play their old games of locking people in!		Dec 08 02:21
schestowitz__	No, they luuuurve ... "open source"... they say so	Dec 08 02:21
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779452426858496	Dec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz yep. They want to lock people into patented XAML, which is more complicated and confusing than non-patented XML or CSS layout.		Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__	XAML is another matter, even worse, but failing	Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779622568792065	Dec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been thinking, you can find early Android engineers on video telling devs they chose Java over C# bc of fears of MSFT IP.		Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__	links?	Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779773370810368 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779909039767553	Dec 08 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the irony is that all their OEMs ended up getting sued anyway by MSFT over other "essential" interop and API patents,		Dec 08 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and then also got sued by Oracle after they bought Sun, over Java. The irony is they should've gone w/ C#, better language!		Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__	Better in what sense? Look at the stewardship... a criminal company.	Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780044536770560	Dec 08 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm thinking of early Google I/O talks with Dan Bornstein, in the Q&A sections. I'll see what I can dig up.		Dec 08 02:24
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780307163107329	Dec 08 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz better in the technical sense, purely. As an engineer, I prefer C#. To pick one minor feature, it has unsigned types.		Dec 08 02:24
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780464369811456 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780590136004608 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780787897450497 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780948862255105	Dec 08 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz it's a better language because they took all the good ideas from other languages that came before (incl Java, Ada, Delphi, etc)		Dec 08 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz I think the other reasons the Android engineers chose Java over C# were familiarity from having done a previous JVM for Danger,		Dec 08 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the feeling that there would be stronger Java IDE tooling (which there definitely is) than C#, and most used Mac or Linux.		Dec 08 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz that's why I'm curious about Xamarin Studio as a third-party alternative to VS. I'm a huge fan of IntelliJ (Android Studio).		Dec 08 02:30
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781396839469056 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781635641774080	Dec 08 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been a commercial or OSS user of IntelliJ since a Danger colleague recommended it to me in 2005: far superior to Eclipse!		Dec 08 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the funny thing is that JetBrains open-sourced and made a free community version of IntelliJ IDEA, and then Google has been		Dec 08 02:31
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781968803729408 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782126371164161	Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz licensing the code (and paying for a small in-house tools team) to support the (free but closed-source) Android Studio fork.		Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I stand corrected: it appears that Android Studio itself is open-source and you can build it yourself (from within itself!) :P		Dec 08 02:32
schestowitz__	IC... Java/Apache.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Studio	Dec 08 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Android Studio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/j1kc9 ]		Dec 08 02:33
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782643004555264	Dec 08 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz BTW @jetbrains is equally well-known and popular as a C# tools vendor. They're also one of the few Czech tech companies I know.		Dec 08 02:35
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782992666914816 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541783442954784768 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784280695701504 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784393082101760 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784471897264129	Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'd say @jetbrains is a great model of a small company far from the tech hubs that succeeded by making really great products.		Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @jetbrains also found ways to embrace free and open-source models while also finding companies with money to bill for support.		Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: BTW @schestowitz you may find in the Oracle transcripts Andy Rubin answering q's about the big license fees that Danger paid to Sun for the		Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "TCK" kits to test the compatibility of Danger's clean-room Java implementation w/ Sun's J2ME, MIDP, etc. standards to get the		Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "coffee cup" logo prominently shown in the system info screen on the Sidekick/hiptop. That's why, even though I was still at		Dec 08 02:42
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784602398846976 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784710070808576	Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz Danger when I heard the news that Android (still secret but rumored to be working on a phone) announced their alliance to sell		Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz their own open-source Java-based mobile OS, not licensed from Sun. I figured that might cause them some trouble down the line,		Dec 08 02:42
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784814353805312 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784960407846912	Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz but I kept my thoughts about the matter to myself (until just now). The trial made it pretty obvious that Oracle was hoping for		Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz a similar type of payday that Sun had been trying to achieve with new-generation mobile platforms like they had been previously		Dec 08 02:43
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785110723297280 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785248292278272	Dec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz with J2ME (MIDP, "midlets") for the old feature phones. The funny thing is the Sidekick had to support a MIDP emulation mode,		Dec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz purely for the purposes of running Sun's testsuite that cost 6 or 7 figures to license. It's obvious why Android would want not		Dec 08 02:46
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785451569238017 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785564547002368 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785745728344064	Dec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz to get stuck in that situation in the first place, but I wasn't surprised that they would end up being challenged to cough up		Dec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz some equivalent form of tribute to the makers of Java, for something. Maybe the answer is only to use ISO or ECMA standards. :/		Dec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz except that you know just as I do how easily corrupted intl. standards bodies are, LOL! So what's the answer? C++/JS seem safe.		Dec 08 02:47
schestowitz__	GPLv3 for Java...	Dec 08 02:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for	Dec 08 02:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming	Dec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines	To The Galaxy S5 http://t.co/n3QDo4RMkb	Dec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com) new compilers too	Dec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Bq4VvAno6Z (www.infoworld.com)	Dec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com \| Android 5.0 Lollipop Update For The Galaxy S5 - Business Insider		Dec 08 02:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers \| InfoWorld		Dec 08 02:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856	Dec 08 02:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.		Dec 08 02:55
schestowitz__	"I'd use Chrome but I don't trust Google. At best, I'd use Chromium and only because it's possible to install the Pepper API Flash plug-in in there but ultimately, I'd rather have a system without ANY kind of proprietary software."	Dec 08 02:55
schestowitz__	Sometimes I run Chromium but still feel guilty about it	Dec 08 02:56
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TweetTuxMachines	Prisoners on GNU/Linux http://t.co/uD3hc24A2F	Dec 08 04:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Features On The Horizon For The Linux	Dec 08 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/CglMfp0EyG	Dec 08 04:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Features On The Horizon For The Linux Kernel \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.18 released http://t.co/2IuNM4wR1h	Dec 08 04:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/Z2ZrI1GTCn	Dec 08 04:46
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806658289008640 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806905660669953 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807075542564865 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807371261997056	Dec 08 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz that only applies if you use Oracle's official version of Java, not if you go write your own VM like Dalvik (or ART).		Dec 08 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz from what I gathered by reading the court coverage, the essential sticking point was that Sun didn't want a royalty-free AOSP.		Dec 08 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the Android team didn't want to use Sun's JVM anyway, because they thought they could do better, and then give it away.		Dec 08 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but why would anyone want to build a mobile OS on top of GPLv3 version of Java when all OEMs want to go Apache/BSD licensed?		Dec 08 08:16
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807887857614848 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808418546147328 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808566185623552 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808646246514688	Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz IMO rather than add a single new line of GPL, you'd have a more sellable product rebasing on top of *BSD kernel, not LInux. :)		Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the other impression I formed from the Oracle vs. Google case is that Java is dead outside of enterprise, smart cards, etc.		Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Java has a few markets where it utterly dominates, like COBOL does, or IBM mainframes, but in retrospect, applets in web pages		Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz were a doomed proposition bc they didn't have a proper bridge to the DOM. JavaScript was the real answer, but the VMs needed		Dec 08 08:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808797262442496 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808932025405440 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809241862836224 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809546449006592	Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz to catch up. The arrival of Chrome spurred interest elsewhere, and now there are multiple great open-source JS VMs besides V8.		Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Regardless, Java is too late to succeed on phones again, I think. It's had its day in the Sun, as it were. ;)		Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & on the closed-source, professional, high-end, supercomputer side is Apple, who have the best APIs, the best silicon, etc.		Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & notice that Apple has been against Java on iOS, against even letting Firefox, Chrome or any other browser use their own VM.		Dec 08 08:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809765513310209 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810145903132672 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810308428206080 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810437830873088 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810669457137664	Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz there's an interest in people cross-compiling from other source languages (Java, C#, JS) into Obj-C to get into Apple's store.		Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz tl;dr is I'm not going to second-guess the decisions made to use Java in the way Android did bc the plan obviously succeeded.		Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm trying to figure out what the mobile landscape is going to look like outside of iOS. I'm typing this on a Chromebook from		Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Google (purchased w/ my own money) that is doing everything in JavaScript and C++ (and some NaCl), no JVM whatsoever.		Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz it has an Intel Core processor and Google's ultra-sandboxed version of Adobe Flash, whose proprietary flavor of JavaScript is		Dec 08 08:20
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810776852275200 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810906380763136 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811110605635585 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811894122577920	Dec 08 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz exactly what Sun was trying to do (and failed utterly) with Java applets. So even by its own standards (annoying adverts, DRM)		Dec 08 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz a commercial, closed-source, non-free, JavaScript-based advertising platform beat Java applets and only now is HTML5 able to		Dec 08 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz begin to finally kill off Flash to enable a fully open-standards based Web. Just like Steve Jobs would've wanted (no sarcasm).		Dec 08 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Related: "No thank you, @infoworld, I won't be viewing those particular banner ads tonight." ;P http://t.co/zPDEJqrG48		Dec 08 08:22
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812764604252161 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812873207365632 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541813064706686976	Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz The biggest irony of all with Java is their famous battle w/ Microsoft over control of the platform caused MSFT to scuttle a		Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz perfectly good Java-based mobile platform (with Danger) along w/ doing anything Java-related at all for fear of more trouble.		Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but first they invented .NET and C# to give themselves a completely different proprietary VM to tout & ultimately neglect. :/		Dec 08 08:23
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541856841169260544	Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: cc @schestowitz: replacement #Android toolchain bypasses use of Oracle's javac and Java .class files, by @syegulalp http://t.co/PYMimzf67k		Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com \| Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers \| InfoWorld		Dec 08 08:23
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265763	Dec 08 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World? http://www.malaysiandigest.com/business/531531-does-china-really-have-the-most-powerful-economy-in-the-world.html interesting points. #china		Dec 08 08:40
schestowitz__	"Are you trying to get me talking about the banks??? (suitable emoticon)."	Dec 08 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.malaysiandigest.com \| Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World?		Dec 08 08:40
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5267125	Dec 08 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the Chinese economy halted production tomorrow, would anyone notice? How about US halt? Therein lies the answer about economic dominance.		Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__	If the US halted production tomorrow that would leave me with bad taste in the mouth.	Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__	Believe it or not I haven't managed to find toothpaste and toothbrushes non-US made, besides that I have been doing fine.	Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__	They're made in China too (brushes)	Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856	Dec 08 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.		Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	"I completely understand you, I feel the same way. I'm not using GNU/Linux at this very moment but when I do again, it'll be completely free with Trisquel most likely. It's not open-source that I believe in but rather free software. Chromium does not strike me as free software."	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	"Chromium could not be FREE considering Google's ethos. So why use an out of date version of Chrome, (even more outdated if you use Debian Stable repos), rather than a continually updated Chrome?"	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	"Why not just use Firefox or something lighter which you know to be free and boycott the very idea of Flash since it is insecure and used to deliver ever-more-invasive advertisements?"	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	"I choose Chrome on the basis it works for me. No guilt feelings. Fortunately my philosophy/religion holds that Compromise is inevitable. I also watch a little YouTube, but I use DuckDuckGo as my Search Engine to avoid being tracked, so far avoided potentially spying friendly smartphones and try to keep below the Man's radar. Doubtless I frequently fail, but much much less so than the Fcbook generation who may some day regret	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	giving up their freedom so cheaply."	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	"Unfortunately, all of our friends insist on being on Facebook regardless of our constant calls to use Diaspora and/or rely on e-mail alone. They're incredibly hard-headed about giving up a service which does nothing good for them."	Dec 08 08:42
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268916	Dec 08 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #mono theism: the misguided false belief that #windows APIs will somehow be compatible with #gnu #linux http://www.gamedev.net/topic/663511-bmfont-on-linux-a-possibility/		Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__	"Use WINE?"	Dec 08 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamedev.net \| BMFont on Linux. A possibility? - AngelCode - GameDev.net [ http://ur1.ca/j1q92 ]		Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__	Wine is for users rather than developers	Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268413	Dec 08 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prisoners learning how to code with Linux http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/prisoners-learning-how-to-code-with-linux/ #gnu #linux #education		Dec 08 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Prisoners learning how to code with Linux [ http://ur1.ca/j1q9e ]		Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	"certainly a great way to lose weeks ;)"	Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	"Requested Range Not Satisfiable"	Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	That's a new error for me. Never seen that in my life.	Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	Works from here	Dec 08 08:44
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268969	Dec 08 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Saying that #EricGarner sold cigs similar to saying #drone victims were engaging in "suspicious activity"; health problems="imminent threat"		Dec 08 08:50
schestowitz__	"Wow, being killed for selling cigarettes is fine? That sounds so Nazi."	Dec 08 08:50
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5269008	Dec 08 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. #Rockefeller 's shameful attempt to kill #FOIA reform? https://freedom.press/blog/2014/12/why-arent-more-news-outlets-covering-sen-rockefellers-shameful-attempt-kill-foia-reform		Dec 08 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freedom.press \| Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. Rockefeller's shameful attempt to kill FOIA reform? \| Freedom of the Press Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/j1qc3 ]		Dec 08 08:51
schestowitz__	"Do you really need to ask? We both know that the media is bought and owned by the people who would benefit from these reforms."	Dec 08 08:51
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	I got your email address from a friend.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	You are probably aware of what is going on at the EPO.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	I attach a demo poster/flyer for tomorrows solidarity demos in The Hague and Munich, for your convenience.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	I further attach a publication (by an unknown group of authors) illustrating the worksphere within the Office. Enjoy the reading.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	The background is that two colleagues currently face disciplinary measures for their activity as members of the Internal Appeals Committee,	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	although persons carrying out such duties are protected against such measures.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	It is simply another example of an abuse of power of EPO president Bemoît Battistelli.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	Please do not hesitate to contact me if you want to get more information.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	Best regards, an epo insider	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines and	Dec 08 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Prisoners on GNU/Linux http://t.co/uD3hc24A2F	Dec 08 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	@_hemalc (techrights.org)	Dec 08 10:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines and Prisoners on GNU/Linux \| Techrights		Dec 08 10:27
schestowitz__	> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949	Dec 08 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk \| Microsoft Calls Its Time On The Nook Tablet [ http://ur1.ca/j1rdn ]		Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__	>	Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__	> I think you saw this already.	Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__	I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.	Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__	> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https://twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832	Dec 08 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https:/twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832 )		Dec 08 10:46
schestowitz__	> I think you saw this already.	Dec 08 10:46
schestowitz__	I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.	Dec 08 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/ZE3Vg4YQgY	Dec 08 10:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Weekend in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your	Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	tech questions answered http://t.co/NwQNLaB277	Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theguardian.com)	Dec 08 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered \| Technology \| The Guardian		Dec 08 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/sXPuTYQlNl	Dec 08 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your	Dec 08 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	tech questions answered http://t.co/8OeS6LNb6d	Dec 08 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the	Dec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More	Dec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6y8DvgDI1m (www.linux.com)	Dec 08 17:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More \| Linux.com		Dec 08 17:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hHgVw1vrvU (dot.kde.org)	Dec 08 17:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success \| KDE.news		Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker: Here, take the wheel – now YOU can run	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	your own containers http://t.co/0eJqneFR03	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Dec 08 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Docker: Here, take the wheel – now YOU can run your own containers • The Register		Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v26	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IDrOvKXc5A (opensource.com)	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v27	Dec 08 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Review: Raspberry Pi A+ \| Opensource.com		Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ly8tgz0XkC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v7f	Dec 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cJ8wIHyRNg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v7h	Dec 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ywg5snlGcZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v7i	Dec 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+ \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:31
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268413	Dec 08 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prisoners learning how to code with Linux http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/prisoners-learning-how-to-code-with-linux/ #gnu #linux #education		Dec 08 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Prisoners learning how to code with Linux [ http://ur1.ca/j1q9e ]		Dec 08 17:42
schestowitz_bed2	\|Huh. Works in Rekonq. What's that all about?\|	Dec 08 17:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Cockpit Management Console In Fedora 21	Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	Makes Linux Administration Easy	Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3NSx7ILgaA (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1vex	Dec 08 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] The Cockpit Management Console In Fedora 21 Makes Linux Administration Easy		Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Founder Must Right His Ship	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6sU7lOVwsv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1vf1	Dec 08 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Docker Founder Must Right His Ship \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SK Telecom develops open-source oneM2M IoT	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	platform http://t.co/1PlJ7OT3II	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1vfc	Dec 08 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SK Telecom develops open-source oneM2M IoT platform \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:59
MinceR	> one sec researcher made a funny cabaret speech on sec industry. loving his quote "why one needs jailbars if one can be in the cloud?" lol	Dec 08 18:13
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5267125	Dec 08 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the Chinese economy halted production tomorrow, would anyone notice? How about US halt? Therein lies the answer about economic dominance.		Dec 08 18:36
schestowitz_bed2	"Sure, but since are US-branded most of the earnings go to the US and that's not the idea in a boycott, I meant neither US-manufactured nor US-branded. I'm pretty sure Chinese make toothpaste and toothbrushes since I bought that in Japan, but here in Banana Republic I cannot find them."	Dec 08 18:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Channel 4 chose open-source MuleSoft over	Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	'prohibitively expensive' Oracle and Microsoft	Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9vSdCalORH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y1s	Dec 08 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why Channel 4 chose open-source MuleSoft over 'prohibitively expensive' Oracle and Microsoft \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LiveUSB-Creator Is Ready For Fedora 21	Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JAbgR6Op7V (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y1t	Dec 08 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LiveUSB-Creator Is Ready For Fedora 21 \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mobile-Desktop Convergence	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/EYSbjbqLXg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y89	Dec 08 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mobile-Desktop Convergence \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Errplane Snags $8.1M To Continue Building Open	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	Source InfluxDB Time Series Database	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hKBD0NegGP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y8b	Dec 08 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Errplane Snags $8.1M To Continue Building Open Source InfluxDB Time Series Database \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 23:03
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ozzzzy	Hello!	Dec 09 11:35
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schestowitz	"thanks to the brilliance of Steve Jobs"	Dec 09 12:15
schestowitz	LOL	Dec 09 12:15
schestowitz	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2473027,00.asp	Dec 09 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcmag.com \| Apple's Trillion-Dollar Dilemma \| Tim Bajarin \| PCMag.com		Dec 09 12:15
schestowitz	"what is the main difference between software engineering and software development? I'm just going to study at university (bachelor's degree), but i don't know the difference."	Dec 09 12:23
schestowitz	"and which degree do i need to work as a developer? computer science may be?"	Dec 09 12:23
schestowitz	"(sorry for my english, i'm not a native speaker)"	Dec 09 12:24
schestowitz	"I've already some skills in software development...'	Dec 09 12:24
schestowitz	Usually, software engineering and software development are the same. Computer engineering is the odd one (hardware).	Dec 09 12:24
msb_	cubexyz: I've got skype running again on my old Suse 11.4 machine, using the pulseaudio emulator for alsa apulse: https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse	Dec 09 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com \| i-rinat/apulse · GitHub		Dec 09 12:26
msb_	Anybody want to call me, my skype ID is markbilk	Dec 09 12:27
MinceR	software engineering is supposed to be software development with forethought and competence	Dec 09 12:36
MinceR	but those are usually missing regardless of name	Dec 09 12:36
MinceR	not going to install skype	Dec 09 12:36
msb_	Soon after Microshit swallowed skype, it changed skype for Linux to require pulseaudio, which is written by Lennart Poettering, the infamous author of systemd.	Dec 09 12:37
schestowitz	msb_:skype?!	Dec 09 12:38
msb_	schestowitz: yes	Dec 09 12:38
MinceR	so from shitty it went to uber-shitty	Dec 09 12:38
msb_	well, it usually works pretty well.	Dec 09 12:38
MinceR	yeah, that's what the m$ crowd says all the time	Dec 09 12:39
MinceR	and since m$ crap is forced on me routinely, i can see how "well" it works	Dec 09 12:39
MinceR	(like a train wreck.)	Dec 09 12:39
msb_	But my point is that two operations to sabotage Linux -- skype/pulseaudio and systemd -- are connected.	Dec 09 12:40
MinceR	for example, the letter "C" in CSV (which stands for Comma Separated Values) didn't tip off the drooling idiots in redmond that comma, not semicolon, is supposed to be the field separator in a CSV file.	Dec 09 12:40
MinceR	could well be.	Dec 09 12:40
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msb_	I wonder if there's also a connection with KDE4, which more or less kills multiple virtual desktops.	Dec 09 12:41
MinceR	i don't even know anymore	Dec 09 12:42
MinceR	in any case, it takes more than just poettering to fuck everything up	Dec 09 12:42
MinceR	it requires a mass of idiotic followers	Dec 09 12:42
MinceR	who force his shit to be adopted almost everywhere	Dec 09 12:42
msb_	YES!	Dec 09 12:42
msb_	But there are several groups working on substitutes for systemd so we can be free of it.	Dec 09 12:44
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msb_	And apulse to substitute for pulseaudio.	Dec 09 12:45
MinceR	and we already have sysvinit and alsa	Dec 09 12:45
msb_	And Trinity Desktop (clone of KDE3) to substitute for KDE4.	Dec 09 12:45
MinceR	and XFCE, and a lot of standalone window managers	Dec 09 12:46
*amarsh04 doesn't like how both brassero and k3b in Debian depend indirectly on systemd		Dec 09 12:46
msb_	The problem now with sysvinit is that a lot of apps are being warped to depend on systemd facilities.	Dec 09 12:46
amarsh04	at least there are other cd burning packages	Dec 09 12:46
amarsh04	and hplip for that matter, although I can use my printer fine without hplip and just cups-related packages	Dec 09 12:47
MinceR	those apps may have to be discarded, then	Dec 09 12:48
amarsh04	that's what I did with my other pc (running kde 4.x)	Dec 09 12:48
amarsh04	this machine still running kde 3.5 can still use the ancient k3b	Dec 09 12:49
amarsh04	the incidental breakage with no alternative solutions isn't helpful	Dec 09 12:50
amarsh04	e.g. recent versions of udev don't recognise the mass storage device mode of my nokia handset	Dec 09 12:50
MinceR	indeed	Dec 09 12:50
amarsh04	so I'm holding back udev	Dec 09 12:50
amarsh04	if I was running systemd, I wouldn't have the luxury of using a version of udev that ancient	Dec 09 12:51
msb_	amarsh04: A. I don't think the breakage is incidental -- it's sabotage of Linux. B. alternative solutions are the various shims that allow systemd-warped apps to run on sysvinit systems.	Dec 09 12:53
amarsh04	the shims that aren't maintained	Dec 09 12:53
msb_	Eventually people will settle on one or two of them and they will be maintained.	Dec 09 12:54
MinceR	the shims retain some or all of the overhead and braindead design	Dec 09 12:55
msb_	But they are under control of people, not psychopaths.	Dec 09 12:57
msb_	And once that gets going, some of the more important apps can be reverted.	Dec 09 12:58
amarsh04	I like having alternative ways of doing things and still have the alternatives available by the package system such as in Debian	Dec 09 12:58
MinceR	debian has already committed to breaking your system if you don't use systemd	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	" “Microsoft loves Linux,” said Bob Kelly, Corporate Vice President at Microsoft"	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	Sounds like Microsofts pays nicely for a few weeks of having Ubuntu Core exclusively.	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	Also not the first time MS is having affair with Linux. See their Suse partnership.	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	"The creed of the Amoeba: embrace, engulf, and digest."	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5274985	Dec 09 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #canonical still sleeps with a predator http://siliconangle.com/blog/2014/12/09/canonical-restructures-ubuntu-in-mobile-mode-enlists-microsoft-as-first-partner/ #ubuntu #gnu #linux		Dec 09 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> siliconangle.com \| Canonical restructures Ubuntu in mobile mode; Microsoft is first partner \| SiliconANGLE		Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	Shuttleworth looks for short-term rewards	Dec 09 13:00
schestowitz	"Oh, thank you)) i was looking for the information on internet, but wasn't sure exactly which degree i do need."	Dec 09 13:00
schestowitz	-anon	Dec 09 13:00
msb_	Some people are focusing on getting rid of systemd in Debian -- http://www.freelists.org/list/modular-debian is a great mailing-list. Totally anti-systemd, lots of interesting ideas.	Dec 09 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freelists.org \| FreeLists / Toward a more modular Debian OS		Dec 09 13:02
MinceR	we've got Devuan going	Dec 09 13:06
MinceR	then debian can burn with their systemd, gnome and mono	Dec 09 13:06
msb_	Wiki wants to delete the article about Devuan. They say it's not real yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devuan	Dec 09 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Devuan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Dec 09 13:09
MinceR	well, it's wikipedia	Dec 09 13:09
MinceR	they live off deleting things	Dec 09 13:09
MinceR	it's the force that keeps them alive	Dec 09 13:10
MinceR	they should have called themselves MemoryHole	Dec 09 13:10
msb_	ok, here's a Halloween-colored website for it: https://www.devuan.org/	Dec 09 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devuan.org \| Devuan - the GNU/Linux by Veteran Unix Admins.		Dec 09 13:12
MinceR	:)	Dec 09 13:13
msb_	wikipedia calls all the govt undercover attacks "conspiracy theories".	Dec 09 13:13
msb_	totally fascist-infiltrated	Dec 09 13:14
msb_	But this site is excellent: http://globalresearch.ca/	Dec 09 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalresearch.ca \| Global Research		Dec 09 13:15
msb_	Free widespread broadcast communication is the key to honesty prevailing over psychopathy. And the Net gives us that.	Dec 09 13:21
msb_	Maybe the Singularity has already begun!	Dec 09 13:21
msb_	Honesty and creativity!	Dec 09 13:23
msb_	MinceR: Are you working with Devuan?	Dec 09 13:26
MinceR	i'm lurking there	Dec 09 13:27
msb_	Check that mailing-list too.	Dec 09 13:27
MinceR	i occasionally do	Dec 09 13:28
msb_	That's where I heard about apulse.	Dec 09 13:28
MinceR	:)	Dec 09 13:29
msb_	Oops, I lied. I got that from the trinity-users list.	Dec 09 13:32
msb_	They are also anti-systemd.	Dec 09 13:33
msb_	Overhead isn't very important, since we're all running supercomputers!	Dec 09 13:35
msb_	(I started with an original IBM-PC.)	Dec 09 13:35
msb_	Braindeadness is, but with clever design it can be restricted to small areas of code.	Dec 09 13:37
msb_	(talking about systemd-substitute shims here)	Dec 09 13:38
amarsh04	when I installed Debian the machine had 48 meg of RAM and a cyrix 166 MHz cpu (still a bit more than 16 Meg of RAM and a 486DX33 in 1993 to run what was then Novell Unixware)	Dec 09 13:44
MinceR	nowadays even the installer wouldn't run on that, would it?	Dec 09 13:45
amarsh04	probably not	Dec 09 13:45
amarsh04	current cpu on this machine is AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ with 1024 Megabytes of RAM	Dec 09 13:45
amarsh04	brb, restarting desktop	Dec 09 13:46
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msb_	amarsh04: are you back?	Dec 09 14:20
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 14:29
schestowitz	Hello Roy,	Dec 09 14:29
schestowitz	Not sure whether this is interesting for you:	Dec 09 14:29
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 14:29
schestowitz	Major new leak	Dec 09 14:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/542363086884470785	Dec 09 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz Thrown out of a plane maybe; they installed and loved Videla....		Dec 09 17:03
schestowitz	Fell out rather ;-)	Dec 09 17:03
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sebsebseb	hi	Dec 09 18:20
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amarsh04	I'm here msb_	Dec 09 20:56
msb_	amarsh04: Hi!	Dec 09 20:57
msb_	I was just going to say that I think my cpu is the same as yours. Two cores?	Dec 09 20:58
amarsh04	I think this one is single core	Dec 09 21:00
msb_	Run the lscpu command.	Dec 09 21:01
msb_	I've just gotten mine to display x265/HEVC 720p videos, but it saturates both cores.	Dec 09 21:06
msb_	Needed the latest version of mplayer plus some tuning.	Dec 09 21:07
amarsh04	single cpu	Dec 09 21:08
msb_	I wonder if the single and dual core have the same pinout.	Dec 09 21:09
amarsh04	probably	Dec 09 21:09
msb_	Maybe you could double your power by buying a new one.	Dec 09 21:10
amarsh04	yes, but I'll be replacing the motherboard anyway	Dec 09 21:10
msb_	http://www.pricewatch.com/search?q=amd+athlon+x2+desktop&gallery=1&sortby=price&condition=new&discounted=2	Dec 09 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pricewatch.com \| PriceWatch - Lowest prices, local and nationwide stores selling amd athlon x2 desktop \| Page 1 [ http://ur1.ca/j2evt ]		Dec 09 21:15
msb_	Looks like the 2-core is less than $20 shipped.	Dec 09 21:15
msb_	mplayer definitely uses both cores. I don't know if the second one is needed for anything else.	Dec 09 21:19
msb_	Maybe locatedb -- I don't remember.	Dec 09 21:21
msb_	x265/HEVC videos are about half the size of x264 for the same resolution/quality.	Dec 09 21:28
msb_	Save a lot of disk space.	Dec 09 21:29
amarsh04	I build mplayer from source regularly, and use my 4 core machine to play videos	Dec 09 21:47
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/542502150102716417	Dec 10 02:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz don´t worry the fringe Far Left in LatAm hates McDonalds more than imperialism		Dec 10 02:15
schestowitz	LOL	Dec 10 02:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers Raspberry	Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	Pi-like size and I/O http://t.co/P4kUUjkMIj	Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 10 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers Raspberry Pi-like size and I/O · LinuxGizmos.com		Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2irn	Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rugged, fanless box-PC runs Linux on Haswell	Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dPDjJaMD8F (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2irp	Dec 10 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Rugged, fanless box-PC runs Linux on Haswell · LinuxGizmos.com		Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Crossy Road Android Release Date Announced	Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/XV0J3Rp8c1 (www.gamezebo.com)	Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2irq	Dec 10 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamezebo.com \| Crossy Road Android Release Date Announced - Gamezebo		Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Porteus Desktop Edition Is a Modular Bleeding	Dec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	Edge System Based on Slackware	Dec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xLi5CgZqp5 (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2iuo	Dec 10 03:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Porteus Desktop Edition Is a Modular Bleeding Edge System Based on Slackware - Softpedia		Dec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines JasPer Vulnerability Closed in All Supported	Dec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/RUIgzMEvLD	Dec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 10 03:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.18: 4 Reasons to Love a 'Diseased Newt'	Dec 10 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux 3.18: 4 Reasons to Love a 'Diseased Newt' \| Linux.com		Dec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux	Dec 10 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	experience to mobile devices	Dec 10 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OKK8DIVZtW (www.itworld.com)	Dec 10 03:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com \| With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices \| ITworld		Dec 10 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM	Dec 10 03:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers Raspberry	Dec 10 03:19
TweetTuxMachines	Pi-like size and I/O http://t.co/7hxU7hyrcn	Dec 10 03:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 03:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers Raspberry Pi-like size and I/O \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 03:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Video: Security Features in systemd	Dec 10 03:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aXdtd5chkh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 03:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Video: Security Features in systemd \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 03:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux	Dec 10 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	experience to mobile devices	Dec 10 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5LaOdN37t0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 03:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 03:20
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/542525905579438081	Dec 10 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @DafnaLinzer @schestowitz @danapriest @JulieATate Thank You. Thank You. & some links to the story, please!		Dec 10 03:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542523437269282818 https://twitter.com/TheDailyEdge/status/542484791124164608 https://twitter.com/WeMeantWell/status/542492326669475840 https://twitter.com/DafnaLinzer/status/542505853085941762	Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Said this years ago: torture good as 1) punishment; 2) deterrence? Not good for: true confessions (under force). Also good for: #blowback		Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheDailyEdge: If torture keeps us safe from terror, how come ISIS is waterboarding Americans? #TortureReport http://t.co/pjSo39lsyb		Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnn.com \| Report: ISIS waterboarded captives - CNN.com		Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WeMeantWell: So now that torture is wrong and all, the US is offering compensation to its victims? I missed that part of the story right? #TortureReport		Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DafnaLinzer: As you read the #TortureReport, consider sending a "thank you" to @danapriest and @JulieATate for revealing existence of black sites in '05		Dec 10 03:55
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542522148527423488 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542521981548363776 https://twitter.com/lydiadepillis/status/542518100709474305	Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How not to make friends: "chronic hemorrhoids, an anal fissure, and symptomatic rectal prolapse." http://t.co/9DHwx8DdNm		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedailybeast.com \| Inside the CIA’s Sadistic Dungeon - The Daily Beast		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #torture programme of #bush and #cheney helped keep sadists off the streets, in some island with "brown" targets http://t.co/3DBAQdyKgz		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lydiadepillis: The more I read of the #torturereport, the less I can distinguish between us and the people executing journos lately http://t.co/EsQcuugXGx		Dec 10 03:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/ron_fournier/status/542519318077251584 https://twitter.com/regibaby67/status/542519355590729728 https://twitter.com/Patbagley/status/542514826652557315	Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ron_fournier: Once more on the #TortureReport: What nobody should excuse, justify, or forgive are the lies. Their stink will haunt US leaders for years		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@regibaby67: Torture and illegal surveillance coincided during Bush years, under the pretense of keeping Americans safe. Feel safer now? #TortureReport		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Patbagley: Wonder why Dick Cheney doesn't travel? Some countries still prosecute war criminals #Cheney #torture #TortureReport http://t.co/x2ChxdGGRU		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Patbagley: Wonder why Dick Cheney doesn't travel? Some countries still prosecute war criminals #Cheney #torture #TortureReport http://t.co/x2ChxdGGRU		Dec 10 03:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/AnthonyLawlor/status/542519364897878016	Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnthonyLawlor: Jack Bauer approach to interrogation reveals sadistic shadow side of the American psyche. #TortureReport		Dec 10 03:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542507703772254208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504779801309184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504435839029249 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504049015144448	Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Free Software has made great strides in all kinds of areas and improved our lives." http://t.co/WgZYUSJxlb		Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.lydiapintscher.de \| life at the end of the universe » Keeping our eyes on the big picture – High Priority Projects		Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If age argument ("it's old news","doesn't matter anymore") helps pardon criminals, then Senate needs to launch $40m report into #drones NOW		Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 10 years from now: #DroneReport about how White House and Pentagon lied about the value and extent of #assassination & covered up civilians?		Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The right wing justifies #torture in the name of some "higher" (exceptional) goal like "fighting terror" while labeling #wikileaks "terror"		Dec 10 03:58
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542503664288428032 https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/542477772577603587 https://twitter.com/ozchrisrock/status/542493183720947712 https://twitter.com/ArarMaher/status/542494404397641728 https://twitter.com/HinaShamsi/status/542496811265425409	Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nypd didn't murder #ericGarner - it was just "simulating drowning". The detainee was in bad health... so it's "fair play". #ICantBreathe		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: Bush promised there was no torture happening in our name. Well, he lied. #TortureReport http://t.co/iQMlL6N7um		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: Bush promised there was no torture happening in our name. Well, he lied. #TortureReport http://t.co/iQMlL6N7um		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: I read a little bit of the torture report and, well, the first problem is that we're a country that has torture reports. #TortureReport		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArarMaher: What #TortureReport doesn't mention (bc it's not part of mandate) is that countless other suspects were sent 2 other countries 4 processing.		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HinaShamsi: Illuminating @washingtonpost graphic on then CIA-director Hayden's lies to Congress as revealed in #TortureReport http://t.co/HjaQwXstuU		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com \| Hayden’s testimony vs. the Senate report - Washington Post		Dec 10 03:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542500750270529536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542500468715290624 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542499665376055296 https://twitter.com/blogdiva/status/542498259407609856	Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Maybe "they hate us" because of imperialism. Maybe it's not "because we have McDonalds" but because we stuff things up their rectum. [2/2]		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: December 9th: the day that many brainwashed TV viewers (Fox, CNN, NBC etc.) realised why "they hate us", to quote Bush. [1/2]		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Droning to death versus torturing to death http://t.co/JSnpkp3rVV		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedailybeast.com \| The Bush Administration Homicides - The Daily Beast		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blogdiva: DAMN... RT @BenjaminNorton: Yet another brilliant cartoon by @LatuffCartoons CIA #TortureReport http://t.co/MurKPNZ8Dk		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LatuffCartoons: Please, RT! U.S. Senate report on @CIA torture, via @operamundi #TortureReport http://t.co/zXYegIHaFq		Dec 10 03:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/542497289793581056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542499159186489344 https://twitter.com/jimasher/status/542498330782089216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496987166162944 https://twitter.com/HaroldItz/status/542476254407294976	Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: #EricGarner sold a loose cigarette and was killed. George Bush tortured people and got a library. #TortureReport http://t.co/HpNaI4ptm1		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: #EricGarner sold a loose cigarette and was killed. George Bush tortured people and got a library. #TortureReport http://t.co/HpNaI4ptm1		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cnn has reckless 'reporting' which consistently lays blame for "terror" threat on the messengers rather than the torturers. #propaganda		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jimasher: McClatchy reveals that Congress has no stomach for pursuing crimes detailed in CIA #torturereport. http://t.co/uKCL7GmQLY		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mcclatchydc.com \| National news from McClatchy DC News \| Washington DC		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM Power8 support http://t.co/hxlJPpelXP #suse #ibm #mariadb #database		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theinquirer.net \| MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM Power8 support- The Inquirer		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HaroldItz: Cheney reads #TortureReport, smiles, and happily sighs, "Ah, memories!"		Dec 10 04:00
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496833126150144 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496565525348355 https://twitter.com/missyasin/status/542474449279516672 https://twitter.com/ozchrisrock/status/542474311387586561	Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #torture in West often done by proxy, e.g. enabling Mubarak, Assad etc. to torture their own citizens or flying people abroad for torture		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Western world can only claim that #torture is evil & inhumane as long as it's able to pretend or deny that it's not doing it (or rename it)		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@missyasin: Collaborated w/ @simkhosla for piece showing how #TortureReport is part of global problem http://t.co/zhkDp4an9e http://t.co/aww4pYWfry		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalpost.com \| This graphic shows that torture is a global problem \| GlobalPost		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@missyasin: Collaborated w/ @simkhosla for piece showing how #TortureReport is part of global problem http://t.co/zhkDp4an9e http://t.co/aww4pYWfry		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: #FoxNews declared torture humane today. Good night everybody! #TortureReport http://t.co/RRysHjH42k		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: #FoxNews declared torture humane today. Good night everybody! #TortureReport http://t.co/RRysHjH42k		Dec 10 04:01
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495949881229313 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495894046666752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495733643890688	Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Dissent against #torture -> jail https://t.co/6c5iTBCzeI		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: From now on every attack on US folks abroad will be (or can be) blamed on those who shine light on #torture - reversing cause and effect		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Rectal Feeding," Threats to Children, and More: 16 Awful Abuses From the CIA Torture Report http://t.co/DTREfqRg24 #cia #torture		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| "Rectal Feeding," Threats to Children, and More: 16 Awful Abuses From the CIA Torture Report \| Mother Jones		Dec 10 04:01
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/adrianshort/status/542463764126105600 https://twitter.com/kgosztola/status/542464503997153281 https://twitter.com/snowwhite44/status/542463303482474496	Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@adrianshort: Torture is just fine for the sort of people who feel oppressed by socialised healthcare. #TortureReport		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kgosztola: CIA chief had inspector general office reviewed cause of "bias" against torture & CIA "morale issues" #TortureReport http://t.co/P0tmi2vH8J		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kgosztola: CIA chief had inspector general office reviewed cause of "bias" against torture & CIA "morale issues" #TortureReport http://t.co/P0tmi2vH8J		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@snowwhite44: How can anyone reading the #TortureReport and watching police brutality in our towns cannot see that we are morally bankrupt ? #shutitdown		Dec 10 04:01
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DaemonFC	I'm on my Chromebook. An Acer BIOS update killed my Acer motherboard.	Dec 10 06:24
DaemonFC	Now I'm trying to rebuild it with standard parts, salvaging as much as possible along the way.	Dec 10 06:25
DaemonFC	Turns out that the motherboard was proprietary, and so was the power supply, and they're using a laptop DVD-RW drive along with a custom PCMCIA port for wireless and bluetooth, and the two front USB 2.0 ports are using a 19/20 pin USB 3.0 cable that they put a cap on and plugged into some exposed pins on their motherboard.	Dec 10 06:26
DaemonFC	So along the way, I picked up a couple of adapter cables. They're so odd that I had to order them from China.	Dec 10 06:26
DaemonFC	One is a SATA power to micro slimline SATA power adapter, and the other is intended to let you plug in USB 3.0 front ports into a USB 2.0 9 pin header.	Dec 10 06:27
DaemonFC	And I'm just sort of hoping that one works.	Dec 10 06:27
DaemonFC	The buttplugs at Acer didn't bother to make any sort of emergency recover procedure for a bad BIOS flash. The $45 board I ordered has dual BIOS, which will boot off of a backup copy if the flash went wrong.	Dec 10 06:28
DaemonFC	I feel like the people on Apollo 13, trying to make a CO2 scrubber with duct tape and tube socks.	Dec 10 06:29
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*TweetTuxMachines @UbuntuReddit favourited 'JasPer Vulnerability Closed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes...'		Dec 10 07:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Happy Fedora Day http://t.co/0iiUEksLdo	Dec 10 07:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Happy Fedora Day \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 07:33
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5273580	Dec 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Piles of leaked documents about the #epo has #techrights dependent on caffeine and late night work again. Like #Comes vs #Microsoft days.		Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	"It's late here now, I'll have a look at it in the morning."	Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278966	Dec 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rugged, fanless box-PC runs #Linux on #Haswell http://linuxgizmos.com/rugged-fanless-box-pc-runs-linux-on-intel-haswell/		Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	"Oooh, fanless. Like an Apple II."	Dec 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Rugged, fanless box-PC runs Linux on Haswell · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/j2qz7 ]		Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	The only fans it has: people with no brains	Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5276813	Dec 10 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Threatening to kill your family members is psychological #torture practiced by #cia and it can be more agonising than physical torture		Dec 10 11:32
schestowitz__	"I imagine many of these threats were genuine. Without real trials, we can't be sure."	Dec 10 11:32
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5275192	Dec 10 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Users Need 27 Services to Get Most Popular Films, Report Finds http://torrentfreak.com/uk-users-need-27-services-to-get-most-popular-films-report-finds-141208/ distribution and availability issue		Dec 10 11:33
schestowitz__	"I use cclive most of the time and have built a very interesting library over the last few years."	Dec 10 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> torrentfreak.com \| UK Users Need 27 Services to Get Most Popular Films, Report Finds \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/j2i3p ]		Dec 10 11:33
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5273566	Dec 10 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Last check of logs (past filtering/DDOS defences) suggests that #ddos against #tuxmachines now ineffective, problem largely solved		Dec 10 11:36
schestowitz__	"It's interesting that the attackers would run out of bots and that the traffic would not overwhelm you anyway."	Dec 10 11:37
schestowitz__	"I like 'pure'. Android is crippled when compared to traditional distros."	Dec 10 11:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278981	Dec 10 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices http://www.itworld.com/article/2856604/with-unity-8-ubuntu-will-bring-pure-linux-experience-to-mobile-devices.html #ubuntu #linux #unity		Dec 10 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com \| With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/j2r26 ]		Dec 10 11:41
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msb_	Maybe "they hate us" because they know the US did 9/11, blamed it on them, and used it as an excuse to murder 2,000,000 of them. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911	Dec 10 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Dec 10 16:15
msb_	schestowitz__: Please see North Tower Exploding by David Chandler item at above address. Does that convince you?	Dec 10 16:16
msb_	The other 3 videos are excellent also.	Dec 10 16:17
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/542647473131380736	Dec 10 16:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz Torture is why many terrorists became terrorists in the first place.		Dec 10 16:47
schestowitz__	msb_: it didn't explode	Dec 10 16:48
msb_	schestowitz__: Did you read the part about the flying girders and F=ma?	Dec 10 16:49
MinceR	http://daggle.com/closed-unfriendly-world-wikipedia-2853	Dec 10 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daggle.com \| The Closed, Unfriendly World Of Wikipedia		Dec 10 16:50
schestowitz__	http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/whats-wrong-with-chromeosbook-a-general-musing/	Dec 10 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openbytes.wordpress.com \| What’s wrong with ChromeOS/book & a general musing on silly people \| OpenBytes - Goblin's Domain [ http://ur1.ca/j2twg ]		Dec 10 16:58
schestowitz__	"Contractual obligations have me drawn away from OpenBytes, its a shame because my time doesn’t even seem to have the opportunity for many 140 character one liners on Twitter. G+ seems to me like the social media that everyone knows about and didn’t want. Its funny because I’ve noticed that it seems to get more activity when linking articles on other social media rather than conversations created by a musing on G+ itself.	Dec 10 16:58
schestowitz__	Maybe G+ has the charm of being an outlet for people who want to comment on an article and feel more comfortable doing it on their own ground (as in their own G+ page)"	Dec 10 16:58
msb_	http://drsircus.com/world-news/psychopaths-rule-our-world-medicine-politics-and-war	Dec 10 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drsircus.com \| Psychopaths Rule Our World – Medicine, Politics and War [ http://ur1.ca/j2twl ]		Dec 10 16:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Empire: Total War Gold Edition Released for	Dec 10 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, Video Available	Dec 10 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gCHN7psUwA (www.gamershell.com)	Dec 10 17:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamershell.com \| News: Empire: Total War Gold Edition Released for Linux, Video Available		Dec 10 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 [development] Already Begun	Dec 10 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LfCyAzYixX (ostatic.com)	Dec 10 17:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun		Dec 10 17:12
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/542726696550813696	Dec 10 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz: Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution https://t.co/kLsIqLQ6QJ #eu #europe		Dec 10 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu \| Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution \| Joinup		Dec 10 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bgUoyz9XGF (www.mylinuxrig.com)	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3t	Dec 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com \| The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist - My Linux Rig		Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	awesome performance! http://t.co/YCodmMbFuh	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	(mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk \| Linuxed - Exploring Linux distros: Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply awesome performance!		Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3u	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best KDE distro of 2014 http://t.co/amVFo0CsbQ	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	(netrunner-mag.com)	Dec 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netrunner-mag.com \| Netrunner MAG \| Best KDE distro of 2014		Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3w	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snappy Ubuntu challenges CoreOS and Project	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	Atomic on lightweight cloud servers	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QduxsKGgbE (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3x	Dec 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Snappy Ubuntu challenges CoreOS and Project Atomic on lightweight cloud servers \| ZDNet		Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	instead of solution http://t.co/gWzCljv8Fa	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ufb	Dec 10 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/z7j0ogUrAz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ufc	Dec 10 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 10/12/2014: Fedora 21, Ubuntu Core	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SKENC9tBjz (techrights.org)	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ufl	Dec 10 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 10/12/2014: Fedora 21, Ubuntu Core \| Techrights		Dec 10 18:05
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/12/connections-between-phones-and-smartwatches-wide-open-to-brute-force-hacks/	Dec 10 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Data sent between phones and smartwatches wide open to hackers \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/j2ukm ]		Dec 10 18:24
Sosumi	smartwatches are the new 3dtvs	Dec 10 18:25
Sosumi	just a fad	Dec 10 18:25
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278824	Dec 10 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: From now on every attack on US folks abroad will be (or can be) blamed on those who shine light on #torture - reversing cause and effect		Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__	"	Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__	US people can keep their head deep in the sand if that makes them happy, in my country people believes that they cannot be blamed at all about drug cartels for the same reason.	Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__	That is not going to solve anything but makes people feel better.	Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__	"	Dec 10 18:57
msb_	schestowitz__: Roy, it's a shame that you, who are so intelligent, and have done so much for humanity, avoid the F=ma proof regarding 9-11 by resorting to a nonsensical quibble about the meaning of a word, and totally ignoring the proof.	Dec 10 19:01
msb_	schestowitz__: As shown by the videos I link to, the govt investigation of 9-11 reeks of coverup, as did the Warren Commission investigation of the JFK assassination, Years later, another govt investigation concluded that JFK was murdered by a conspiracy. This is even mentioned in wikipedia. More than 2,000,000 people have been murdered, and several nations virtually destroyed, by the US and Israel using 9-11 as the pretext. How	Dec 10 19:12
msb_	many more have to die before people like you stop avoiding the evidence?	Dec 10 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/SwnSv7NXh9	Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2v5j	Dec 10 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best KDE distro of 2014 http://t.co/3RD4R3tXNg	Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2v5l	Dec 10 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best KDE distro of 2014 \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YcgBxZJ5GB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc2	Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	awesome performance! http://t.co/yTwOPsxFd3	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc3	Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply awesome performance! \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5bJrOQPGus (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc4	Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014 \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Kozqd0yQnN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc6	Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla and Telenor Announce WebRTC Competency	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	Center to Advance WebRTC and Help	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	Standardization http://t.co/9aTc2TDvH4	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vid	Dec 10 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla and Telenor Announce WebRTC Competency Center to Advance WebRTC and Help Standardization \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cU8vqZfCxp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vif	Dec 10 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Distros: What’s in a Name?	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zlmHDTHYkM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vig	Dec 10 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Distros: What’s in a Name? \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source for sensitive email	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2Uk0ZLPiRd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vxh	Dec 10 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source for sensitive email \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Developer Experimenting With Firefox UI	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	In HTML http://t.co/ddIyyqioKh	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vxj	Dec 10 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla Developer Experimenting With Firefox UI In HTML \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LhD97xUrxf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vxl	Dec 10 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18 \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35 Beta Arrives with Conference Call	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	Features for Hello http://t.co/F9obsIUyAf	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2wls	Dec 10 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Firefox 35 Beta Arrives with Conference Call Features for Hello \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ctqcXr2hkx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2wlt	Dec 10 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/T8taJI4iDl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2wlv	Dec 10 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	Embedded Devices Already http://t.co/tlREGlQrOW	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yb9	Dec 11 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for Embedded Devices Already \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	32-Bit Linux http://t.co/zDk4ItC6iH	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybb	Dec 11 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support 32-Bit Linux \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Empire: Total War has officially launched on	Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	Steam for Linux gamers." http://t.co/KN7GaZJWbX	Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/53xUdKSF3h	Dec 11 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Empire Total War Launches For Linux Gamers		Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Empire: Total War Shows Up in the Steam for Linux Library - Softpedia		Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybs	Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New	Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1]	Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YcrhLTfdxQ (www.webupd8.org)	Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybu	Dec 11 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Archive Manager #PeaZip 5.5.1 Lands	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	with Many Fixes	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vb4VjuqL6D (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybv	Dec 11 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Open Source Archive Manager PeaZip 5.5.1 Lands with Many Fixes - Softpedia		Dec 11 01:25
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/oADAMo/status/542857024300523521	Dec 11 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oADAMo: @schestowitz Get a job trust fund baby!		Dec 11 01:47
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/542858861456007168	Dec 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (G. Orwell predicted it: Jounior Anti-Sex League)		Dec 11 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MinnowBoard MAX Unboxing and Booting of	Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen:Common http://t.co/flNPz5u9E0	Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 11 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Video] MinnowBoard MAX Unboxing and Booting of Tizen:Common - Tizen Experts		Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ypm	Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Things to Do After You Install Fedora 21	Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DiEKKK4eWg (www.linux.com)	Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ypn	Dec 11 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 11 Things to Do After You Install Fedora 21 \| Linux.com		Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 10 Semi-Autonomous Robots That Run Linux	Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	(With Slideshow) http://t.co/gyzFANjwbc	Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ypo	Dec 11 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Top 10 Semi-Autonomous Robots That Run Linux (With Slideshow) \| Linux.com		Dec 11 02:06
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/bitty31985/status/542862967138553856	Dec 11 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bitty31985: @schestowitz can you help by signing&Rt'ing so we can bring these sick #warcriminals to justice? http://t.co/3LVtYiFZxk #TortureReport		Dec 11 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> petitions.whitehouse.gov \| Arrest Dick Cheney and George W. Bush for crimes against Humanity \| We the People: Your Voice in Our Government		Dec 11 02:11
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542864353872314368	Dec 11 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz and how killing through drone strikes is perfectly humane		Dec 11 02:17
schestowitz__	That's portrayed in the media as always killing just terrorists; same with torture	Dec 11 02:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/illchangethis/status/542865651056906240	Dec 11 02:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@illchangethis: @schestowitz @pandymonium01 Another sign of how far right western politics has gone.Sigh!		Dec 11 02:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542866641038868480	Dec 11 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz but the question is clear. Is torture not ok while killing with drones is? It's a yes or no question		Dec 11 02:21
schestowitz__	I strongly oppose both and write thousands of times against drones...	Dec 11 02:21
cubexyz	there's nothing definite on Turla APT on Linux	Dec 11 02:25
cubexyz	there's cd00r.c which is a packet backdoor	Dec 11 02:26
cubexyz	nothing in the wild, so to speak	Dec 11 02:26
schestowitz__	is it a real threat?	Dec 11 02:26
schestowitz__	Or hyped up by Kaspersky?	Dec 11 02:26
schestowitz__	I could not find independent analyses?	Dec 11 02:26
cubexyz	there was something found at news-bbc.podzone.org	Dec 11 02:28
cubexyz	so kaspersky are saying to stay away from there	Dec 11 02:28
cubexyz	there's an md5 listed for the executable	Dec 11 02:29
cubexyz	just watch for oddball statically linked executables which don't belong :)	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5283695	Dec 11 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What is rather sickening yet endemic in Western media is that the #torture question is framed as a debate, as if pro-torture 'legitimate'		Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	The truth is treated as subjective. This is the problem with most news media.	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	I remember almost blowing a gasket when I heard on the radio "[Someone] says Sam Brownback lowered taxes last year, but others disagree."	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5283606	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	"audacious is one of my favorite audio players since a while...'	Dec 11 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] http://www.webupd8.org/2014/12/audacious-switches-back-to-gtk2-adds.html #gtk #gtk3 #gtk2		Dec 11 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org \| Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/j2yxr ]		Dec 11 02:30
cubexyz	e.g. if you saw ./Tur.1 running... it's not likely though	Dec 11 02:31
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542867170796249090 https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542867495108247552	Dec 11 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz ok at least you're honest. But nobody seems to have any other suggestions as to how to obtain info from detainees.		Dec 11 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz when all other methods were attempted. Torture was NOT a first option		Dec 11 02:32
schestowitz__	Loaded question: assumes we need this info AND can extract it (if it exists)	Dec 11 02:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone	Dec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/anW0FkH38v (jimlynch.com)	Dec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yyl	Dec 11 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com \| Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone – Jim Lynch		Dec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Modular Smartphone Wants to Offer Ubuntu,	Dec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines	SailfishOS http://t.co/glYsNgHthN	Dec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yym	Dec 11 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| New Modular Ara-like Phone Hopes to Offer Ubuntu, SailfishOS		Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A looking glass for GTK+ http://t.co/DZCWVuidLI	Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	(blogs.gnome.org)	Dec 11 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org \| A looking glass for GTK+ \| Goings on		Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yyn	Dec 11 02:34
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542870715071217665	Dec 11 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz WOW! We don't need this info to protect America from further terrorism? You can't be that stupid. Jesus buy a clue		Dec 11 02:37
schestowitz__	Jesus is a myth	Dec 11 02:37
schestowitz__	Just like your assumptions about intel' gathering.	Dec 11 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/S7rOuX3ATj (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z0n	Dec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem · LinuxGizmos.com		Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Distros: What’s in a Name?	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/13KurFae5L (fossforce.com)	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z0o	Dec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Linux Distros: What's in a Name? \| FOSS Force		Dec 11 02:39
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542871076297248768	Dec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz sticking your head in the sand about the threat on your life and the lives of your family is desperate liberalism		Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zFg1QMvyb3 (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z0p	Dec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison		Dec 11 02:39
schestowitz__	Securing the lives of "Americans" US abroad usually about occupying troops. Bring them back home.	Dec 11 02:40
schestowitz__	"Americans" (US)	Dec 11 02:40
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542871330178469888	Dec 11 02:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz Ok you are clearly crazy and if are truly a dr (which I can't believe) you shouldn't be. God speed idiot		Dec 11 02:41
schestowitz__	Insults fight... not my spiel. Bye. :-)	Dec 11 02:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Breaking down the Red Hat QA process	Dec 11 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TmYbuhhN5B (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 11 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	#security response: https://t.co/GHpdacxNZZ	Dec 11 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Breaking down the Red Hat QA process \| ZDNet		Dec 11 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	(securityblog.redhat.com)	Dec 11 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z2v	Dec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/12/10/analysis-of-the-cve-2013-6435-flaw-in-rpm/ )		Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines No release for the Tizen Samsung Z1 today, but	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	over $1.7m worth of SM-Z130H parts imported to	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	India http://t.co/LQb8HiPofW	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| No release for the Tizen Samsung Z1 today, but over $1.7m worth of SM-Z130H parts imported to India - Tizen Experts		Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z2w	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt 5.4 released http://t.co/YKMpFMNyYi	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.qt.digia.com)	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z2x	Dec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.qt.digia.com \| Qt 5.4 released \| Qt Blog		Dec 11 02:46
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Football__Tweet/status/542802411006746624	Dec 11 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Football__Tweet: AS Roma might be regretting this tweet now. #ASRoma #MCFC http://t.co/4k6ePrHcmf		Dec 11 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Football__Tweet: AS Roma might be regretting this tweet now. #ASRoma #MCFC http://t.co/4k6ePrHcmf		Dec 11 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler,	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung #Slush2014 http://t.co/JnbGcZZoKy	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 11 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014 - Tizen Experts		Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zai	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine 3.1.0 released http://t.co/N4H0kD7plD	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.alpinelinux.org)	Dec 11 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org \| Alpine 3.1.0 released \| Alpine Linux		Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zaj	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zOyx1AhE5h (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zak	Dec 11 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18 - Softpedia		Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine 3.1.0 released http://t.co/z1KfJi15qA	Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zb1	Dec 11 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Alpine 3.1.0 released \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times	Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nykpg50Y6o (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zb2	Dec 11 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times		Dec 11 03:12
*TweetTuxMachines @fjmorales favourited 'F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot...'		Dec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for	Dec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	Embedded Devices Already http://t.co/cD6AcK27tk	Dec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 03:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for Embedded Devices Already - Softpedia		Dec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zf1	Dec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support	Dec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	32-Bit Linux http://t.co/EfR115rdyD	Dec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 03:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support 32-Bit Linux		Dec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zf2	Dec 11 03:25
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542887228293132288	Dec 11 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz Now you're just being paranoid. Like saying Canonical can access your Ubuntu laptop because they could put malware in it.		Dec 11 03:44
schestowitz__	false analogy	Dec 11 03:45
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542887670465040384	Dec 11 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz if you have some proof that Google is putting keyloggers into Chromebooks to get your passwords, then by all means share! :P		Dec 11 03:45
schestowitz__	No keyloggers, straw man...	Dec 11 03:45
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888000258969600	Dec 11 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz please explain how Google can access the laptop that doesn't involve some malware or backdoor that someone would've found?		Dec 11 03:46
schestowitz__	According to WSJ, FBI has remote access to Android	Dec 11 03:46
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888092298792961	Dec 11 03:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz okay I'm just not sure what it is that you're proposing as the method for Google to steal people's passwords (for the NSA?)		Dec 11 03:47
schestowitz__	Google is in PRISM and Snowden leaks showed that NSA targets sysadmins for their passwords on 'cloud'	Dec 11 03:47
schestowitz__	to compromise networks all around the world	Dec 11 03:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888553735147522	Dec 11 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz that's news. Does the FBI have to install an app first? And Android isn't used in Chromebooks except for some app compat stuff.		Dec 11 03:49
schestowitz__	WSJ did not explain how FBI does this, but collaboration on backdoor access (like with Microsoft) likely	Dec 11 03:49
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/explanoit/status/542888560333193216	Dec 11 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@explanoit: @schestowitz @jhamby they have access to phones through 0days and baseband firmware. There's no "install key logger" command at Google.		Dec 11 03:50
schestowitz__	Cellphones come with a second OS ('smart' phone) that can remotely rake over the first one	Dec 11 03:50
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889078937513984 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889142862888962	Dec 11 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@explanoit @schestowitz yeah, Google has done a lot of questionable stuff, but intentionally backdooring Android isn't one of them AFAIK.		Dec 11 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz ok so you've admitted you're just making shit up now. Got it.		Dec 11 03:52
schestowitz__	Google only recently claimed that it was finally trying to lock FBI out	Dec 11 03:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889369783107584	Dec 11 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz there's a lot of factual info in book "@/War" about where Microsoft & Google actually do collaborate, but it's not like that.		Dec 11 03:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542890155745366017	Dec 11 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz okay, but it's more of "not trying hard enough" to block 0-days than "intentionally adding them to make things easy for FBI".		Dec 11 03:55
schestowitz__	Informing the NSA about 0-days before fixing them effectively the same as sharing backdoor info	Dec 11 03:55
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542890406698967040	Dec 11 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz I'd like to know more about what kinds of baseband exploits are out there. It's shared mem so the BP could easily take control.		Dec 11 03:56
schestowitz__	There was confirmation of this last year and the year before that	Dec 11 03:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/suprfluo/status/542890608621551617	Dec 11 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suprfluo: @schestowitz @jhamby actually the report was about the FBI using malware to access Android.		Dec 11 03:56
schestowitz__	FBI can remotely activate Android and laptop microphones, reports WSJ http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4580718/fbi-can-remotely-activate-android-and-laptop-microphones-reports-wsj	Dec 11 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| FBI can remotely activate Android and laptop microphones, reports WSJ \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/j2zq1 ]		Dec 11 03:58
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891039258714112	Dec 11 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz right, but if you take the facts and then jump to the farthest conclusion, assuming that tech is eager to jump in bed w/ spies.		Dec 11 03:59
schestowitz__	tech is used as a jumping board for spies	Dec 11 03:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891368566116352	Dec 11 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @suprfluo that story's over a year old now, and it talks about the FBI having to implant malware to do such things.		Dec 11 03:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891651036102656	Dec 11 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz sometimes they're both, yes. Sometimes corporate spies steal trade secrets and sell them to other companies. No NSA needed.		Dec 11 04:01
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891823832637442 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891898268950528 https://twitter.com/suprfluo/status/542891979244576769	Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz you seem to see these big tech companies as monolithic entities with basically malevolent intentions, and I find that tech does		Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz the most harm and commits the most evil out of their good intentions to "make the world a better place" with #meritocracy. :/		Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suprfluo: @schestowitz @jhamby yeah by installing malware, I'd suggest boarding your research from a random regurgitation by the verge.		Dec 11 04:04
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542892138166378496	Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm more concerned with the unintended side effects of technology than the idea that Google wants to steal all your passwords.		Dec 11 04:04
schestowitz__	google does not need your passwords. Straw man again.	Dec 11 04:04
schestowitz__	With the exception perhaps of AT&T and Microsoft, which give spies the red carpet, tech companies exploited by spies	Dec 11 04:07
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/QhaBhuti/status/542894034088652800	Dec 11 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QhaBhuti: @jhamby sigh! Jake your patience is legendary @schestowitz		Dec 11 04:15
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/explanoit/status/542896411676008448	Dec 11 04:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@explanoit: @schestowitz @jhamby I said baseband		Dec 11 04:21
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/N_is_Een/status/538314267658031105 https://twitter.com/dougpete/status/538661732030627841	Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@N_is_Een: All your #Firefox-keystrokes are belong to #Microsoft and possibly #NSA: http://t.co/NqaPodYiWn Et Tu, Mozilla?		Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Mozilla Will Relay Firefox User Input (Even Keystrokes) to Microsoft and the NSA Through Yahoo in the US \| Techrights		Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dougpete: This article will make you think - http://t.co/gJ2GywPh7u		Dec 11 04:26
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/CDSRV/status/542897969004281856	Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CDSRV: @schestowitz : cool concept		Dec 11 04:26
schestowitz__	http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904	Dec 11 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com \| Heavy Censorship in Pakistan Shows Why the Next Arab Spring Won't Be on Facebook \| Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/j047z ]		Dec 11 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Iran Upholds Death Sentence for Photographer Who Insulted Prophet on Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/j3050 ]		Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	http://qz.com/308023/facebook-is-making-employees-read-chinese-propaganda-to-impress-beijing/	Dec 11 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com \| Facebook is making employees read Chinese propaganda to impress Beijing – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/j3052 ]		Dec 11 04:47
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schestowitz__	older:	Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing	Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904	Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	==	Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	==	Dec 11 04:51
schestowitz__	http://opensource.com/government/14/12/open-source-sensitive-materials-email	Dec 11 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Open source email for government \| Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/j3067 ]		Dec 11 04:51
schestowitz__	No mention of encryption.	Dec 11 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Steam Computes Linux Sales	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fdWtWUfkuX (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30c8	Dec 11 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| How Steam Computes Linux Sales \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multi-Layer Support Coming To OverlayFS In	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/VqCHIDLhoR	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Multi-Layer Support Coming To OverlayFS In Linux 3.19		Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30ca	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	mettle http://t.co/aUNh8OsOzP	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.infoworld.com)	Dec 11 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their mettle \| InfoWorld		Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30cb	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	mettle http://t.co/0VKs5D0C4V	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30cf	Dec 11 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their mettle \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 21 http://t.co/zq054onRjc	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30ci	Dec 11 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 21 \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/8nLFJVZVDD	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30ck	Dec 11 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/r5NrjGpDr6	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j315v	Dec 11 06:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/MmFqcBxIg3	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j315x	Dec 11 06:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/12/2014: systemd 218, Empire Total War	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oPeGEhJjUK (techrights.org)	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j315y	Dec 11 06:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 11/12/2014: systemd 218, Empire Total War \| Techrights		Dec 11 06:50
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neobii	howdy, does anyone know a channel where they talk about business law?	Dec 11 07:18
msb_	neobii: do an advanced google search for search irc channels	Dec 11 07:23
msb_	neobii: you get several irc search sites	Dec 11 07:23
neobii	well I did "contract law" freenode and it brought me here and #techbytes	Dec 11 07:24
msb_	I just typed /join #law to freenode and got a channel ##law with 53 people in it	Dec 11 07:28
msb_	neobii: so ask in ##law about contract law	Dec 11 07:31
msb_	Google is your friend, except when it reports you to the NSA.	Dec 11 07:31
neobii	ah, yeah sometimes my queries are too specific haha	Dec 11 07:33
msb_	In the 1980s I was doing programming for the AIDS Clinic of San Francisco General Hospital. I had to give a talk on database usage for the staff, but I couldn't use the word "query" because the gay men might be insulted!	Dec 11 07:37
MinceR	lol	Dec 11 07:40
msb_	It was a great place to work, until I found out that an AIDS patient was using my computer when I wasn't there. That was before it was learned that HIV isn't contagious by touch. I, uh, buggered off.	Dec 11 07:42
MinceR	:>	Dec 11 07:44
msb_	They had a great RDBMS on their IBM-PCs. I think it was ported from Unix. Can't remember the name now.	Dec 11 07:53
msb_	I think it was Informix.	Dec 11 07:58
msb_	I didn't tell them it was my first DBMS experience. Just got a couple of books and read up on it.	Dec 11 08:00
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5284110	Dec 11 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook does not give people a voice; it uses (exploits) their voice (and name), selectively, to promote Facebook-centric agenda		Dec 11 10:16
schestowitz__	"Promotes the agenda of corporate and government owners - Microsoft, NSA, etc. It's what Rupert Murdoch was unable to make out of MySpace."	Dec 11 10:16
schestowitz__	Not enough people were willing to participate	Dec 11 10:16
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5284111	Dec 11 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Look how 'well' #facebook worked for these people http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904 real name policy, Zuck?		Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com \| Heavy Censorship in Pakistan Shows Why the Next Arab Spring Won't Be on Facebook \| Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/j047z ]		Dec 11 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Iran Upholds Death Sentence for Photographer Who Insulted Prophet on Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/j3050 ]		Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__	when I was using Lantern, the proxy, I saw almost as many people connecting from Pakistan as from China.	Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__	I'm not sure I trust Lantern anymore. Any advice on this? Lantern	Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__	It's best to just avoid platforms like Facebook, with or without anonymity	Dec 11 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Linux Works Is an OS Mechanic's Mainstay	Dec 11 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hiZYBzvnXp (www.linuxinsider.com)	Dec 11 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33dz	Dec 11 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| How Linux Works Is an OS Mechanic's Mainstay \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Dec 11 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Was 2014 "The Year of Linux Desktop"?	Dec 11 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KHMNKlLygE (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33hn	Dec 11 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Was 2014 "The Year of Linux Desktop"? - Softpedia		Dec 11 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of	Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	2014? http://t.co/bnAN16MDUg (jimlynch.com)	Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33jz	Dec 11 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com \| Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? – Jim Lynch		Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops	Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/n1gDrXiBJr (www.datamation.com)	Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33k0	Dec 11 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com \| My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops - Datamation		Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wnbZlPdzHQ (www.dedoimedo.com)	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33m5	Dec 11 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com \| Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant		Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	2014? http://t.co/oBCRtSgO71	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33m7	Dec 11 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DG1No8DYop (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33m9	Dec 11 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The truth about the thick skin of a community	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	manager http://t.co/pmltVlOrGz	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33ma	Dec 11 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The truth about the thick skin of a community manager \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Ruled 2014, Codenames, and Steam Linux	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	Sales http://t.co/8lY8xdoNdg	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33mb	Dec 11 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Ruled 2014, Codenames, and Steam Linux Sales \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/B3lgRjrV4T (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33yc	Dec 11 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gentoo mailing lists down	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ottXTviBZV	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	(dilfridge.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 11 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilfridge.blogspot.co.uk \| the dilfridge blog: Gentoo mailing lists down		Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33yd	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	Tahr 6.0 CE http://t.co/QADT9pgZvr	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.everydaylinuxuser.com)	Dec 11 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux Tahr 6.0 CE « Everyday Linux User		Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33ye	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ttx939aVut (www.zdnet.com) "I've	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	only started playing with Fedora"	Dec 11 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here \| ZDNet		Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33zt	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6 of the Best Open Source Holiday Gifts for	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	SMBs http://t.co/PtIE9gx2e6	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33zv	Dec 11 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 6 of the Best Open Source Holiday Gifts for SMBs \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why your organisation will thank you for going	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	open source http://t.co/kX6Jqz6ZaP	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33zz	Dec 11 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why your organisation will thank you for going open source \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	Happen. http://t.co/ntsMWl3Kz3	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3401	Dec 11 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to Happen. \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	Tahr 6.0 CE http://t.co/qDO5kvjjGc	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j342w	Dec 11 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux Tahr 6.0 CE \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7sRX6DajLw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j342y	Dec 11 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	Available in Linux Systems	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wZyNBOeO7S (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3431	Dec 11 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already Available in Linux Systems - Softpedia		Dec 11 12:29
*TweetTuxMachines @neozerdrakon retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already...'		Dec 11 12:29
*TweetTuxMachines @neozerdrakon favourited 'Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already...'		Dec 11 13:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack,	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9PHqKXa8xA (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qk	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack, Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On - Softpedia		Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Available in Linux Systems	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6pjjNQCEuy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qm	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already Available in Linux Systems \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multiple http://t.co/5vV90o4wJB (www.x.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Vulnerabilities Found, One Is from 1987	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ldje1tsPIk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qo	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org \| xorg		Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Multiple X.Org Vulnerabilities Found, One Is from 1987 \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack,	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/N6vGdBMsLJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qp	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack, Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MongoDB gets its first native analytics tool	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7uABfZNaSI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qq	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MongoDB gets its first native analytics tool \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:43
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Dec 11 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already	Dec 11 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Available in Linux Systems	Dec 11 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	@SerbianLinuks http://t.co/wZyNBOeO7S (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35bj	Dec 11 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already Available in Linux Systems - Softpedia		Dec 11 14:47
*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks favourited 'Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already...'		Dec 11 14:47
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285453	Dec 11 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft loves Linux. #gnu #linux gives Microsoft ideas... of things to copy, clone, then claim credit for.		Dec 11 14:50
schestowitz_bed2	"Copying is fine in the FOSS culture. The problem is that they try to promote copied ideas as "innovation". Apple does that too."	Dec 11 14:50
schestowitz_bed2	"But Microsoft isn't the only one who does that. Ask Apple for more information.'	Dec 11 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a	Dec 11 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	Fundraiser https://t.co/MxBb0Qcjzo	Dec 11 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	(dot.kde.org)	Dec 11 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35ih	Dec 11 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a Fundraiser \| KDE.news		Dec 11 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cabinet office Plugfest builds momentum for ODF	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cRB4vrFf9v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35ij	Dec 11 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cabinet office Plugfest builds momentum for ODF \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	Fundraiser http://t.co/Av5HRgisL5	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35ik	Dec 11 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a Fundraiser \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/e9dNpmPzgp (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w4	Dec 11 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel		Dec 11 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Device May Come Instead http://t.co/JMCrEVogmm	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android Device May Come Instead \| Ubuntu content from The VAR Guy		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w5	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Linux machines using Systemback	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Nln3iCClA5 (www.techrepublic.com)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w6	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based Linux machines using Systemback - TechRepublic		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Go 1.4 is released http://t.co/hWmQ1St9iB	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w8	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Go 1.4 is released \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mwsuC1kMZW (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wa	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Device May Come Instead http://t.co/H71ZvOx8S1	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wc	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android Device May Come Instead \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Linux machines using Systemback	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nAJukl1Rsm (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wh	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based Linux machines using Systemback \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OPNFV Adds New Members to Open Source SDN/NFV	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Project http://t.co/KBskUDprAA	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wj	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OPNFV Adds New Members to Open Source SDN/NFV Project \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:44
schestowitz_bed2	"In 2013, "There were two mass appeals against Investigation Guidelines	Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	(Circular 341, 342). One mass appeal with 89 appellants, the second with 61."	Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	<a href="https://www.epo.org/modules/epoweb/acdocument/epoweb2/133/en/CA-55-14_en.pdf"></a>	Dec 11 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.epo.org/modules/epoweb/acdocument/epoweb2/133/en/CA-55-14_en.pdf"></a )		Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	aka "Microsoft Word ec14055.docx" which means Microsoft has an inside track on	Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	all of this.	Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	>	Dec 11 16:22
schestowitz_bed2	> Just to let you know that we enjoyed the series so far and are looking	Dec 11 16:22
schestowitz_bed2	> forward to the continuation.	Dec 11 16:22
schestowitz_bed2	> We attach a copy of the letter in French.	Dec 11 16:24
schestowitz_bed2	> Unfortunately we don't have a translation available at the moment.	Dec 11 16:24
schestowitz_bed2	me:	Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2	"	Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2	There are enough weekly posts drafted to last until Christmas. Slow but persistent, I think, is what will help shake up perceptions and cause public opinion to shift.	Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2	Any other documents you can send and won't cause trouble if published help saturate the search engines with relevant names, places, and expose the reader to some contextual scandals.	Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2	With series like these, which do not directly target the regular readers (subscribers, mostly FOSS proponents in our case), the "premium" target is people who are involved and mentioned in the scandals or their colleagues/partners.	Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2	Vestna Stilin wrote a response to an article from the Zurich folks. I was curious about that article. My wife and I then checked her name and Google. Results #1 was -- you've guessed it -- IPWatch and the article about her fight with Topic. Not quite the clients magnet, is it...?	Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2	Either way, I can assure you I'll make available online what need to be online and won't divulge identities. I never did, in all the past leaks in the site.	Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2	"	Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2	http://techrights.org/2014/12/11/france-vs-battistelli/	Dec 11 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| France Gets Involved in Battistelli’s Abuses in the EPO – Part XII \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j36bx ]		Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz_bed2	Could you help by providing an English translation of the letter in French?	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz_bed2	http://techrights.org/2014/12/11/epo-staff-backlash/ (Rolling of Heads Likely Imminent at EPO)	Dec 11 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Rolling of Heads Likely Imminent at EPO \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j36cd ]		Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285379	Dec 11 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I'd hate to link to Dietrich, but this response to #Turla is right on point http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2014/12/linux-turla-malware-infection-not-going.html		Dec 11 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxadvocates.com \| Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to Happen. ~ Linux Advocates [ http://ur1.ca/j36p3 ]		Dec 11 17:18
schestowitz_bed2	"I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day."	Dec 11 17:18
schestowitz_bed2	LOL	Dec 11 17:18
*jgay (jgay@2601:6:5500:285:250:eff:fec3:5a38) has joined #techrights		Dec 11 17:48
*jgay has quit (Changing host)		Dec 11 17:48
*jgay (jgay@fsf/staff/jgay) has joined #techrights		Dec 11 17:48
*TweetTuxMachines @ekimetrics favourited 'OPNFV Adds New Members to Open Source SDN/NFV...'		Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now Available	Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/k9RkIziKIo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j37c6	Dec 11 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now Available \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort	Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100	Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	companies http://t.co/4FoZ7jsPAo	Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j37c9	Dec 11 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100 companies \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LHD8UKR46c (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j37ca	Dec 11 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Joyent Offers Linux Branded Zones, Extends	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	Docker Engine as Container Service	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/MFGDvBNup2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j37cd	Dec 11 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Joyent Offers Linux Branded Zones, Extends Docker Engine as Container Service \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Second Beta for LibreOffice 4.4 Is Now Ready	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	for Testing http://t.co/LTkYIQAoRh	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j37ck	Dec 11 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Second Beta for LibreOffice 4.4 Is Now Ready for Testing \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Trine Enchanted Edition For Linux Released	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mbeHaEYRbX (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 11 18:26
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schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110526956736512	Dec 11 18:30
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schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110640836280321	Dec 11 18:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings Mixed	Dec 11 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	Results For Linux Users http://t.co/vfdysHG8Z4	Dec 11 19:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes	Dec 11 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sY50ulmCFS (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 19:08
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schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543119617636696065	Dec 11 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: #gnu #linux more prominent in the #games world now http://t.co/5MMwweyTgU		Dec 11 19:10
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schestowitz_bed2	hi GinghamPenguin	Dec 11 19:10
GinghamPenguin	Hello	Dec 11 19:10
schestowitz_bed2	new here, so I thought I'd say hi	Dec 11 19:15
msb_	GinghamPenguin: What kind of Linux are you using?	Dec 11 19:16
GinghamPenguin	I'm new as well. I've got crunchbang on my laptop.	Dec 11 19:17
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msb_	Streamlined, efficient -- looks good!	Dec 11 19:19
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GinghamPenguin	msb_: I haven't settled on a long term distro yet. I've been hopping and tweaking for way too long. I come back to crunchbang in between sessions	Dec 11 19:20
GinghamPenguin	It's my home base	Dec 11 19:21
msb_	I just stay with OpenSuse. Once I got all my weird hardware and zillions of scripts running I just let it stay.	Dec 11 19:22
schestowitz__	debian based...	Dec 11 19:22
schestowitz__	#!	Dec 11 19:22
msb_	Does crunchbang use systemd? That's the big controversy these days.	Dec 11 19:22
GinghamPenguin	That's a can of worms right there. I've seen some HEATED systemd vs init arguments	Dec 11 19:24
GinghamPenguin	It's never pretty	Dec 11 19:24
msb_	I'm solidly anti. Violates too many foundational Unix principles.	Dec 11 19:25
GinghamPenguin	I understand that. I also know that most new linux users don't know enough to care.	Dec 11 19:27
msb_	I just found a shim that emulates pulseaudio from alsa. Allows skype to run.	Dec 11 19:28
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285620	Dec 11 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fox 'news' taunts people who speak out against #police #racism http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/12/10/foxs-rivera-lebron-james-should-wear-be-a-bette/201842 #nypd #EricGarner		Dec 11 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org \| Fox's Rivera: LeBron James Should Wear "Be A Better Father" Shirt Instead Of "I Can't Breathe" \| Video \| Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/j3811 ]		Dec 11 19:29
schestowitz__	"Lebron James could definitely learn lessons about fatherhood from a man whose own son is ashamed of him. Definitely and absolutely."	Dec 11 19:29
schestowitz__	"When the Wall Street people responsible of the mortgage fraud and the US government people responsible of torture are thrown in a dungeon forever, I might hear why selling cigarettes in the street deserves to be killed for."	Dec 11 19:29
msb_	I think that's the way. People are working on various shims to enable systemd-requiring apps to run with sysvinit systems.	Dec 11 19:29
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285225	Dec 11 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/is-linux-mint-17-1-really-the-best-desktop-of-2014/ #gnu #linux #linuxmint #fedora		Dec 11 19:30
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schestowitz__	"Yes, I've followed your reporting on that very closely. Thank you for writing about it."	Dec 11 19:30
msb_	Some cigarettes sold on the street are very beneficial.	Dec 11 19:31
GinghamPenguin	As a linux tinkerer, I don't have much of a horse in the systemd debate. I understand the concerns, but am mostly watching from the sidelines.	Dec 11 19:32
msb_	I think the vastly increased communication ability of the Net will eventually bring the end of all this tyranny.	Dec 11 19:32
msb_	GinghamPenguin: Likewise here.	Dec 11 19:32
schestowitz__	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5287004	Dec 11 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa uses #fedora and senior Fedora staff told me NSA passes to them patches to put in #linux (which I'm not sure is a good thing at all)		Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	"source?"	Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	"yeah, gonna need some source on that,	Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 19:33
msb_	But at least I'm learning how Linux boots up, which I didn't know before.	Dec 11 19:33
GinghamPenguin	Yup! It's good stuff to learn	Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	"also something to note, RHEL is used by the US military, so i wouldnt be surprised if fedora was used for things to, and other us agencies had their hands in it"	Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	Red Hat makes systemd	Dec 11 19:34
msb_	My version is still sysvinit, which is another good reason for not upgrading, so I can learn from it.	Dec 11 19:34
schestowitz__	Fedora is used by NSA for some data collection (wireless), based on Snowden leaks. Fedora staff told me about NSA role by E-mail.	Dec 11 19:35
msb_	schestowitz__: yes, that's the theory on at least one of the anti-systemd sites -- US fascist govt is using systemd to infiltrate (or adopt, control and extinguish) Linux.	Dec 11 19:37
msb_	And it's doing it through RedHat.	Dec 11 19:37
GinghamPenguin	I wonder if they use it because it works (and not for nefarious reasons)	Dec 11 19:37
msb_	But they all work -- Suse, Debian, ...	Dec 11 19:38
GinghamPenguin	Of course. But the NSA is going to have to use _something_.	Dec 11 19:39
msb_	But I guess RedHat was the first big famous one, so maybe that's what the govt started with.	Dec 11 19:39
GinghamPenguin	No matter what they choose, someone is going to be suspicious.	Dec 11 19:39
GinghamPenguin	And RedHat provides support, which makes sense.	Dec 11 19:40
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msb_	But it just so happens that Poettering works for RedHat.	Dec 11 19:41
msb_	And he also wrote pulseaudio, and when M	Dec 11 19:42
msb_	when MS ate skype, it forced Linux users to use pulseaudio.	Dec 11 19:42
GinghamPenguin	I dropped skype when that happened :(	Dec 11 19:43
msb_	In any effort to sabotage Linux, Microsoft is going to be in there somewhere.	Dec 11 19:43
msb_	I have a few friends that I can't get to use Linux.	Dec 11 19:44
GinghamPenguin	I have to use Windows for work (and for wife).	Dec 11 19:44
msb_	I like IHU for VOIP. it's very easy to get going, but Linux only.	Dec 11 19:45
GinghamPenguin	I haven't tried it. See, I came in here for a reason. I'll check it out.	Dec 11 19:45
GinghamPenguin	The techrights page is really rough on mobile.	Dec 11 19:46
msb_	http://ihu.sourceforge.net/	Dec 11 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net \| I Hear U (IHU) Project Homepage		Dec 11 19:46
msb_	For ihu, the i386 binary linked with static libs version works with old and current Suse, but only 32bit. For 64bit, hopefully compiling it from source will work.	Dec 11 19:49
GinghamPenguin	I will have to compile from source, then. It'll give me something to do this weekend. Afk	Dec 11 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort	Dec 11 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100	Dec 11 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	companies http://t.co/NUYvac4HOT	Dec 11 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.open-electronics.org)	Dec 11 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now Available	Dec 11 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/K2snhHYh8q (www.redhat.com)	Dec 11 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/imRUh9wpqu (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings Mixed	Dec 11 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	Results For Linux Users http://t.co/qdb3Ym1OLF	Dec 11 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 20:01
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schestowitz__	>>> >> " you cannot decide to not charge Google News. It is	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >> compulsory. More than a right it is an obligation"	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >>	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >> http://searchengineland.com/spain-ready-enact-google-tax-forcing-company-pay-content-links-198171	Dec 11 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchengineland.com \| Spanish Law To Force Google To Index And Pay For Local News [ http://ur1.ca/j392a ]		Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >>	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >> No opt-out for the magazines and newspapers, etc.	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> >	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> > I support Google's exit from the market or removal of sites that	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> > complain. If they don't want it, then fine. If they want it, say thank	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> > you to Google and stop bitching about having a broken business model.	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> >	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	>> > Google does some bad things; this isn't one of them.	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	> Agreed. The Spanish government is out of touch with reality on this one.	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	> If they decide the case also applies to regular searches then it will	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	> be really crazy.	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	That would potentially be a next step. There's little difference between the two except age of results.	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5286919	Dec 11 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Creative writing teacher resigns after student writes about Jesus, pot http://www.koat.com/news/creative-writing-teacher-resigns-after-student-writes-about-jesus-pot/30128384 "Jesus handing out marijuana to the sick."		Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	"I want to read it. the kid should be earning on that copyright"	Dec 11 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.koat.com \| Creative writing teacher resigns after student writes about Jesus, pot \| New Mexico News - KOAT Home [ http://ur1.ca/j383e ]		Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5287622	Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "America can be a brutal superpower, especially when -- as rarely happens -- it is attacked." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/torture-report-mccain_n_6300730.html even pro-actively		Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__	"Can be? Interesting. I didn't know it ever took a break. Pretty sure every living elected president, and GW Bush, could be tried and hanged at the Hague. Except maybe Carter(?)."	Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com \| Planet Politics: America's Bloody Conscience [ http://ur1.ca/j392o ]		Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5287342	Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "13 alleged militants"..."allegedly involved" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/us-drone-strikes-pakistan-afghanistan-kill-13-militants this is not accurate and it's mass #assassination		Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| US drone strikes kill 13 alleged militants in Pakistan and Afghanistan \| World news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/j392s ]		Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__	""13 alleged militants"..."allegedly involved" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/us-drone-strikes-pakistan-afghanistan-kill-13-militants this is not accurate and it's mass #assassination"	Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__	Nope, years ago I read it's over 16... recently 14 or 15	Dec 11 21:37
schestowitz__	"Remember, any male aged 18 or over is considered a militant now."	Dec 11 21:37
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5286880	Dec 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: More "more attacks on privacy under this rubric" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30426164 always "for the children", like #uk #censorship filters		Dec 11 21:37
schestowitz__	"Hard to argue against child protection, so dark net no more for anyone else"	Dec 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - GCHQ to help tackle 'dark net' child abuse images		Dec 11 21:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SOS Open Source is Now Open Source!	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yzpmcP9W2z (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j398m	Dec 11 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SOS Open Source is Now Open Source! \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SKMOrpGQzT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Tizen Development Tools Version 14.03.1	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	Released http://t.co/KvIwhBWgXs	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 11 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Announcement] New Tizen Development Tools Version 14.03.1 Released - Tizen Experts		Dec 11 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Our approach to software and ongoing support	Dec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	for the first Fairphones	Dec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b33xBHwgx1 (www.fairphone.com)	Dec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j39c9	Dec 11 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fairphone.com \| Our approach to software and ongoing support for the first Fairphones \| Fairphone		Dec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Five open source PaaS options you should know	Dec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ra1LuHEJdl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Five open source PaaS options you should know \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi	Dec 11 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qWXzHYxs7F (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Our approach to software and ongoing support	Dec 11 22:33
TweetTuxMachines	for the first Fairphones http://t.co/q0A91j4ZCy	Dec 11 22:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi	Dec 11 23:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud Server	Dec 12 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	release http://t.co/Dnf8ndPtjS (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 12 00:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/12/2014: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1	Dec 12 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	Beta, Firefox 35 Plans http://t.co/wLspRUaO5b	Dec 12 00:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Five open source PaaS options you should know	Dec 12 00:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud Server	Dec 12 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	release http://t.co/h5RiAsSMwN	Dec 12 03:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/cIER34FKmm	Dec 12 03:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/bSw9ClxMDm	Dec 12 03:06
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*TweetTuxMachines @JoeSpeeds favourited 'Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort AllSeen Alliance grows...'		Dec 12 03:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google releases Cardboard VR viewer specs and	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	SDKs http://t.co/3yoD3U7yEg (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	good use of super high-res phone displays,	Dec 12 09:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sharing with Qt on Android	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hp390NW2pZ (www.calligra.org)	Dec 12 09:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calligra.org \| Sharing with Qt on Android \| Calligra Suite		Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wsOBolteEC (www.linuxinsider.com)	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dbd	Dec 12 09:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla to Support Certificate Transparency in	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	Firefox http://t.co/rmxcL5rkyy (threatpost.com)	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3diy	Dec 12 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-threatpost.com \| Mozilla to Support Certificate Transparency in Firefox \| Threatpost \| The first stop for security news		Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JPPi1rCDBE (www.maketecheasier.com)	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3diz	Dec 12 09:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	Show Up Next Year http://t.co/rfdqhms0lK	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dj0	Dec 12 09:42
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Dec 12 10:25
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roy_	"I would also like to stress that the socialist Deputy Leborgn (for the French citizens living abroad) already was in touch with various Ministers (including foreign affairs : Fabius, Industry : Pellerin, economy : Moscovici) in April this year. However, he was told in substance "before Mr. B. there was no legal system framing the right to strike so that it should be regarded as a progress. Presented with the fact that the new strike law was	Dec 12 10:29
roy_	below French standard, the deputy was answered that the EPO is made of 38 countries so that compromises should be made. For the record, Fabius, Moscovici, Pellerin and now Marcon all come from the same school as Mr B: that is the ENA (Ecole Nationale d'Administration). ENA's alumni is one of the most powerful French networks, may be even more powerful than freemasonry"	Dec 12 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GCSkeh1fMz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dtx	Dec 12 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat 7.1 Beta, Malware History, and Bug	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	Reports http://t.co/HXwvAyduuj	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3du0	Dec 12 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat 7.1 Beta, Malware History, and Bug Reports \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 10:35
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5289577	Dec 12 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will Show Up Next Year http://uk.businessinsider.com/hp-will-show-off-new-linux-os-in-2015-2014-12?r=US #hp #microsoft #linuxplusplus #linux		Dec 12 10:37
roy_	"Looks promising but then again talk is cheap."	Dec 12 10:37
roy_	HP promised Linux OSes before but later abandoned/sold those and started attacking Linux with Microsoft (.e.g. in Munich)	Dec 12 10:38
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roy_	The light shades arrived on time and in good conditions. Would recommend!	Dec 12 12:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/D9XgRxpTRE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 14:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	Show Up Next Year http://t.co/4aP13UtnP8	Dec 12 14:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines European Commission updates its open source	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	policy http://t.co/fqbb1wNGM4	Dec 12 14:01
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MinceR	http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SystemdCrashAndMore	Dec 12 16:23
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MinceR	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4q0lPrIAAAZlh5.jpg	Dec 12 17:23
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5289717	Dec 12 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/543173859055124482		Dec 12 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mattdpearce: Can we talk about how crazy this photo is? http://t.co/TWOolhyf6C		Dec 12 18:45
roy_	"Die Chancen stehen ganz gut, dass es da bald nochmal so richtig knallen wird !"	Dec 12 18:45
*TweetTuxMachines @KanBoHQ followed @tuxmachines		Dec 12 19:05
roy_	https://twitter.com/SimonRWaters/status/543481452328144898	Dec 12 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SimonRWaters: @schestowitz "Though a suspect has the right to remain silent during an arrest and not give their password" http://t.co/Hxc3vkdZe6		Dec 12 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> globalnews.ca \| What rules must police follow to search a cellphone during arrest? - National \| Globalnews.ca		Dec 12 19:13
roy_	I linked to the ruling the other day and spotted a contradicting. Not many people encrypt their phones.	Dec 12 19:14
DaemonFC	http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/scott_lively.html	Dec 12 19:15
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roy_	https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/543484162527997952	Dec 12 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz The systemd matter is a subject for another day.		Dec 12 19:17
DaemonFC	roy_: I'm on an old XP machine right now.	Dec 12 19:18
roy_	I hardly take sides in it (undecided or apathetic), but it's no longer just an init system	Dec 12 19:18
DaemonFC	It's the only computer I have that works. I tried updating my EFI BIOS on the new computer the other day and it bricked the motherboard instead.	Dec 12 19:18
MinceR	that's efi for you	Dec 12 19:18
roy_	DaemonFC: XP is good... for botnets	Dec 12 19:18
DaemonFC	I ordered a new motherboard off of Newegg and I'll be doing a transplant of everything else.	Dec 12 19:18
DaemonFC	MinceR: The new motherboard was only $40 after rebate, and it has dual BIOS on it.	Dec 12 19:19
MinceR	bellwether? more like poison in the water supply	Dec 12 19:19
DaemonFC	Two BIOS chips. One is flashable, and the other is an emergency.	Dec 12 19:19
MinceR	systemd is the cancer that's killing gnu/linux	Dec 12 19:19
MinceR	DaemonFC: did that help?	Dec 12 19:20
MinceR	oh, new motherboard, after the old one got bricked	Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFC	If you do a bad update of the main BIOS, the backup BIOS boots the PC into a recovery mode, and can recover the main BIOS. If the main BIOS is permanently damaged, the backup BIOS can take over permanently.	Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFC	Yeah.	Dec 12 19:20
MinceR	nice	Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFC	Stupid Acer crap. I'm digging a standard ATX power supply out of another computer.	Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFC	I upgraded that one back in late 2012 to upgrade the GPU. It stopped booting several months ago, but I know the power supply is good.	Dec 12 19:21
DaemonFC	The one that came with the Acer is proprietary.	Dec 12 19:21
DaemonFC	I left a few nasty posts on their Facebook wall.	Dec 12 19:21
DaemonFC	I called their engineers idiots that shouldn't have been allowed to graduate from kindergarten.	Dec 12 19:22
DaemonFC	And that this would be my first and last computer from them.	Dec 12 19:22
DaemonFC	roy_: Windows XP is the only thing this old computer can really run.	Dec 12 19:25
DaemonFC	The integrated graphics were never properly supported in Linux, and then the driver got yanked completely from every(?) major distribution.	Dec 12 19:25
DaemonFC	I used the registry setting to get the post-April security fixes from Microsoft. The ones intended for WEPOS.	Dec 12 19:26
DaemonFC	There's about two dozen of them so far.	Dec 12 19:26
DaemonFC	With the hack, you keep getting security patches for XP until April 2019.	Dec 12 19:26
DaemonFC	So Microsoft continues to research and patch XP vulnerabilities. They just won't let the general public have them. Which is bad, because every month there are another 5-6 vulnerabilities that become public knowledge, with no official update for XP.	Dec 12 19:29
DaemonFC	Just because there's no update doesn't mean that people will stop using XP, and those machines will still have broadband internet access. :P	Dec 12 19:29
DaemonFC	There are still people using Windows 9x/Me, and those haven't been supported at all for 8 years.	Dec 12 19:30
DaemonFC	Most stat counters put Windows 9x/Me combines at about 1%. 1% of all the PCs on Earth is still quite a few systems.	Dec 12 19:30
DaemonFC	It would be foolish to suspect that XP will go away anytime soon. Microsoft is largely to blame. They kept letting OEMs license it through 2010, knowing that it would be out of support in under 4 years, so there are still some systems that came with it that aren't exactly ancient.	Dec 12 19:32
DaemonFC	I think it speaks volumes about just how bad Windows security is. Going on 15, and still getting 4-5 security patches every month? That's crazy. You'd expect the pace to slow down at some point, but apparently there's just no end to the vulnerabilities.	Dec 12 19:37
DaemonFC	XP is going on 15, that is.	Dec 12 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IT should listen to users not just managers,	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	says SugarCRM CEO http://t.co/TXAzbYdaLU	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hka	Dec 12 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IT should listen to users not just managers, says SugarCRM CEO \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	As Planned? http://t.co/yD5joFGKxA	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	(mrpogson.com)	Dec 12 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As Planned? \| Robert Pogson		Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hkc	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks)	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Tt1gBChP18 (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hkd	Dec 12 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks) \| ZDNet		Dec 12 19:38
*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As...'		Dec 12 19:38
DaemonFC	Windows Security Essentials still works on XP, but it nags you every day that XP is no longer supported. To make that shut up, I uninstalled it and installed Bitdefender Free.	Dec 12 19:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks favourited 'Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As...'		Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VQ0NSb3jWa (www.linuxjournal.com)	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hpg	Dec 12 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development \| Linux Journal		Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Call for Papers is open for the Embedded Linux	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	Conference 2015 http://t.co/hmZ1rw5hnu	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 12 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Call for Papers is open for the Embedded Linux Conference 2015 - Tizen Experts		Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hph	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	As Planned? http://t.co/EoAteAKv9J	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3huf	Dec 12 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As Planned? \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks)	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/05ymiK8fsK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hug	Dec 12 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks) \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5W2FCctTSB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3huh	Dec 12 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.5.0	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AErFhWtS3v (www.kde.org)	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hxn	Dec 12 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.5.0.php )		Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Continues to Grow in the Cloud Computing	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	and Implementation of Enterprise Applications	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/H6YLsOZv5S (cloudtimes.org)	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hxo	Dec 12 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cloudtimes.org \| Linux Continues to Grow in the Cloud Computing and Implementation of Enterprise Applications \| CloudTimes		Dec 12 20:22
roy_	http://www.computerworld.com/article/2475620/vertical-it/nsa-flashes-bios-for-60-minutes--the-plot-thickens-.html	Dec 12 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com \| NSA flashes BIOS for 60 Minutes (the plot thickens) \| Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/j3i7w ]		Dec 12 20:39
roy_	" Dr. Roy Schestowitz foresaw the terminals illness: "	Dec 12 20:39
roy_	https://twitter.com/gordonbp/status/543506846452314112	Dec 12 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gordonbp: @schestowitz apparently it was a power cut, not a computer crash...		Dec 12 20:48
roy_	Yes, the Windows systems failed to recover	Dec 12 20:48
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roy_	wb, jgay	Dec 12 20:54
roy_	jono_ I mean	Dec 12 20:54
jgay	no welcomes for me	Dec 12 20:56
roy_	always welcome! But jono_ has been absent for months :-)	Dec 12 20:56
jgay	hello jono_, congrats on the new job by the way!	Dec 12 20:56
jono_	hey roy_	Dec 12 20:56
jono_	thanks everyone	Dec 12 20:56
jono_	let me join in my normal client :-)	Dec 12 20:57
jono_	one sec	Dec 12 20:57
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jono	that's better :-)	Dec 12 20:57
roy_	jono_: my wife asked last night why there's no word of you on the web anymore and I said you had moved to a non-FOSS company	Dec 12 20:57
roy_	jono: we've put some major gov clients on ubuntu	Dec 12 20:58
roy_	inc FSA, london gov etc.	Dec 12 20:58
jono	roy_ yeah I have been putting much of the key bits in place at XPRIZE	Dec 12 20:58
*TweetTuxMachines @MarcWilczek favourited 'Linux Continues to Grow in the Cloud Computing...'		Dec 12 20:58
jono	XPRIZE is a way different organization to Canonical	Dec 12 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.19 To Have Full Multi-Touch For More	Dec 12 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	Logitech Devices http://t.co/KIFOhQNxsF	Dec 12 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 12 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3ie3	Dec 12 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Linux 3.19 To Have Full Multi-Touch For More Logitech Devices		Dec 12 20:58
jono	not really an IT company, but with an awesome grand mission :-)	Dec 12 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines XFS Has Improvements To Look Forward To With	Dec 12 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/66daTRAWNB	Dec 12 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 12 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] XFS Has Improvements To Look Forward To With Linux 3.19		Dec 12 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3ie4	Dec 12 20:58
jono	so I have been heads down getting some core bits sorted	Dec 12 20:58
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jono	we are going to make the future a better place :-)	Dec 12 20:59
MinceR	welcome, jgay	Dec 12 20:59
jono	and open source and free software will be a key part of this :-)	Dec 12 20:59
*roy_ reads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Prize_Foundation		Dec 12 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| X Prize Foundation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/j3ieh ]		Dec 12 20:59
roy_	I know it because of the founder	Dec 12 20:59
jono	cool	Dec 12 21:00
jono	we have a ways to go, but lots of cool opportunity ahead	Dec 12 21:00
jono	roy_ did you see the Global Learning XPRIZE ?	Dec 12 21:00
roy_	jono: have you met Elon Musk in person?	Dec 12 21:00
jono	roy_ not in person, no	Dec 12 21:01
roy_	jono: the Gates connection won't impress me	Dec 12 21:01
roy_	there was some of that with Danese Cooper	Dec 12 21:01
jono	well, Bill Gates at Gates Foundation and Bill Gates at MS are two quite different beasts from what I can tell	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	Earlier today I saw an articles linked to from opensource.com that openwashed Gates	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	the same guy who started the anti-FOSS movement	Dec 12 21:02
jono	people change, Roy	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	not him	Dec 12 21:02
jono	I dunno about you, but I was very different 15 years ago too	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	he still attacks FOSS	Dec 12 21:02
jono	I think he has	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	unless he profits from it	Dec 12 21:02
jono	no he doesn't	Dec 12 21:02
jono	and to be fair, it wasn't him, it was Ballmer	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	he profits a lot from what he does notr	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	which is not giving	Dec 12 21:03
jono	he was the architect of anti-Linux	Dec 12 21:03
jono	Gates was just wanted to build cool tech at MS	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	he gets about 5-10 percent richer each year	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	PR, deception, media control	Dec 12 21:03
jono	and the gates foundation are doing really valuable work	Dec 12 21:03
jono	anyway, I don't have much time to debate	Dec 12 21:03
jono	just wanted to say hi :-)	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	ok	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	np	Dec 12 21:03
cubexyz	giving antix 13.2 luddite a go	Dec 12 21:04
roy_	what hardware?	Dec 12 21:04
cubexyz	just a p3 :)	Dec 12 21:04
roy_	wow	Dec 12 21:04
roy_	you can probably buy loads by the piund	Dec 12 21:05
roy_	*pound	Dec 12 21:05
roy_	maybe 20 dollars per box	Dec 12 21:05
cubexyz	comes with ice weasel 22	Dec 12 21:05
jgay	jono, does xprize have any plans to do something (maybe even somethign community based) similar to what the knight foundation does with the "news challenges" program?	Dec 12 21:06
jgay	I really like their sequence that entrants go through: "inspiration", "submissions", "feedback", "refinement", "evaluation", "winners"	Dec 12 21:06
cubexyz	3.7.10 kernel, seems pretty recent	Dec 12 21:08
jgay	and I wondered if ther emight be a way to sort of decentralize that process ... or bake it into a plaftorm that people can use and make their own	Dec 12 21:08
cubexyz	it's pretty fast too, the live cd comes with icewm	Dec 12 21:08
jgay	jono, anyhow, maybe I should formulate my thoughts more coherently in a blog post or something. If you don't knwo what I'm even talking about check it out, https://newschallenge.org/challenge/libraries/refinement	Dec 12 21:08
cubexyz	I'm liking it so far	Dec 12 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newschallenge.org \| News Challenge - How might we leverage libraries as a platform to build more knowledgeable communities? - Refinement [ http://ur1.ca/j3ii9 ]		Dec 12 21:09
roy_	icewm is quite ok for its size	Dec 12 21:09
roy_	I used it for a while recently	Dec 12 21:09
roy_	and openbox, lxde, e17	Dec 12 21:09
roy_	twm is the worst	Dec 12 21:09
jono	jgay, news challenges?	Dec 12 21:10
jgay	jono, https://newschallenge.org/faq	Dec 12 21:10
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jono	jgay, will check it out in a sec, thanks!	Dec 12 21:10
MinceR	220317 < jono> Gates was just wanted to build cool tech at MS	Dec 12 21:11
MinceR	in that case, he failed.	Dec 12 21:11
MinceR	hard.	Dec 12 21:11
MinceR	and i'm sure the work of the gates foundation is really valuable to microsoft	Dec 12 21:12
cubexyz	it's about control of the desktops	Dec 12 21:12
cubexyz	which is slipping finally	Dec 12 21:13
MinceR	which might be why poettering & co. decided to destroy gnu/linux just now	Dec 12 21:14
cubexyz	no systemd in antix :)	Dec 12 21:14
cubexyz	it just how things evolve	Dec 12 21:18
cubexyz	once I was a staunch user of Fedora...	Dec 12 21:19
cubexyz	now I'm a slackware adherent	Dec 12 21:19
MinceR	i'm getting tired of hopping distros to dodge the stupid	Dec 12 21:19
MinceR	hopefully bedrock will fix that for me	Dec 12 21:19
cubexyz	slackware and derivatives	Dec 12 21:19
cubexyz	MincerDistro :)	Dec 12 21:20
MinceR	also, it's sad that sjvn became a systemd shill	Dec 12 21:25
cubexyz	really? hmmm	Dec 12 21:25
MinceR	http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/	Dec 12 21:25
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5291861	Dec 12 21:38
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roy_	"for the past three years I keep talking we need comunication infrastructure independent of state or corporate ownership."	Dec 12 21:38
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5292158	Dec 12 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #london a #drone just came 6 meters short of hitting a plane in #heathrow (IIRC). But let's strip everyone naked in airport scans...		Dec 12 21:39
roy_	"How often does that happen?"	Dec 12 21:39
roy_	I heard about it happening in the US quite a few times, but today I heard about London...	Dec 12 21:39
MinceR	obviously we need to paint drones with texts saying "allahu akbar" and drive them into planes. :>	Dec 12 21:39
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msb_	MinceR: sjvn's article on systemd does not make him a shill for it at all.	Dec 12 23:05
MinceR	to me, it read as it was written from the perspective of someone who totally bought into systemd and has no understanding why anyone would want to avoid it	Dec 12 23:06
msb_	He describes the problems with it, has Torvalds' and Tso's comments, and wants devs to create an alternative.	Dec 12 23:06
msb_	Are we reading the same article?	Dec 12 23:07
MinceR	i read the article i linked.	Dec 12 23:07
msb_	http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/	Dec 12 23:07
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MinceR	and there already are alternatives, including sysvinit.	Dec 12 23:07
msb_	"If systemd really does turn out to be as bad as some developers fear, there are plenty of replacements waiting in the wings. Indeed, rather than hear so much about how awful systemd is, I'd rather see developers spending their time working on an alternative."	Dec 12 23:08
msb_	He doesn't say OMG the sky is falling, but does cover the territory, and the diagram at the beginning shows how much systemd has taken over.	Dec 12 23:09
msb_	I sure wish Linus would come out against it, though.	Dec 12 23:11
MinceR	he's pretending sysvinit doesn't exist	Dec 12 23:11
MinceR	yeah, right now it looks like Linus will let them soil the kernel with crap such as kdbus.	Dec 12 23:11
msb_	yep	Dec 12 23:11
MinceR	pretending sysvinit doesn't exist is a tired poetteringite tactic.	Dec 12 23:12
msb_	Well, they say it has problems -- I don't know what.	Dec 12 23:12
MinceR	"to replace systemd, you'd have to develop something totally new, you can't live without systemd now!"	Dec 12 23:12
cubexyz	heh, I run some pre-sysvinit stuff	Dec 12 23:12
MinceR	yes, it has the problems of being interchangeable with other init systems and not being controlled by the poettering cult	Dec 12 23:13
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MinceR	applications won't mind if you're running sysvinit, bsd init, runit, sinit or whatever	Dec 12 23:13
MinceR	but they're trying to move us to a world where everything depends on systemd or is part of systemd	Dec 12 23:13
MinceR	try to switch init systems then	Dec 12 23:13
msb_	People should start using "poettering" as a verb, meaning invading and sabotaging.	Dec 12 23:14
MinceR	:>	Dec 12 23:14
MinceR	or just "poetter", "poettering" being the infinitive	Dec 12 23:14
msb_	yes	Dec 12 23:15
roy_	lol	Dec 12 23:15
roy_	I forgot to mention that our new neighbours are actually quite jolly and awesome. They're quiet, polite, and we're already receiving good quality Christmas card from many of them, even those across the road and several houses down the road. Some know our names somehow.	Dec 12 23:15
MinceR	creepy :>	Dec 12 23:15
msb_	Where are you living?	Dec 12 23:16
cubexyz	it's kind of plain but it's fast:	Dec 12 23:16
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/antix-desktop.jpg	Dec 12 23:16
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msb_	cubexyz: can it have 20 virtual desktops with names in the switcher applet?	Dec 12 23:20
cubexyz	icewm defaults to 4 virtual desktops	Dec 12 23:20
cubexyz	I don't know enough about icewm to say, but I don't see why not	Dec 12 23:21
msb_	With the windows in each desktop persistent across reboots? That's a hard requirement for me. Makes life much easier.	Dec 12 23:22
MinceR	msb_: if nothing else, you could use fvwm and hack one of the pagers if necessary :>	Dec 12 23:22
msb_	As long as I have a hard drive and not an SSD, KDE3 or Trinity is fine.	Dec 12 23:23
MinceR	why not an SSD?	Dec 12 23:23
msb_	Space is more expensive.	Dec 12 23:23
cubexyz	I like minimalist low-memory systems	Dec 12 23:24
roy_	msb_: manchester	Dec 12 23:24
cubexyz	but I know that's not everyone's cup of tea	Dec 12 23:24
msb_	I want a real keyboard, and a pretty big screen, so laptop is as small as I want to go.	Dec 12 23:24
msb_	Unless the Apocalypse comes, fries all the electronics, and we have to make our own chips, I don't find any need for minimalist.	Dec 12 23:26
cubexyz	the reasoning for it is simple: less pollution	Dec 12 23:26
msb_	What kind of pollution?	Dec 12 23:26
MinceR	don't old computers use more power? :>	Dec 12 23:26
cubexyz	no, that's a myth	Dec 12 23:26
cubexyz	depends on which cpu	Dec 12 23:26
cubexyz	coppermine p3's were fairly power efficient	Dec 12 23:27
cubexyz	msb_, obviously pollution caused by chip fabrication	Dec 12 23:28
cubexyz	e.g. trichloroethylene	Dec 12 23:28
cubexyz	of course, the power use could be offset by solar panels or whatever, it's not too critical	Dec 12 23:29
cubexyz	now PDP-11's were a different story	Dec 12 23:29
cubexyz	I'd never say use a PDP-11 as your main computer :)	Dec 12 23:30
msb_	I just read that Germany sometimes gets half its power from solar -- IIRC -- I can't find the email.	Dec 12 23:30
cubexyz	basically my philosophy is to fix computers and keep them working as long as possible	Dec 12 23:30
cubexyz	LCD's are quite repairable	Dec 12 23:30
msb_	And solar cell efficiency has just reached 40%, and that's with cells that can use concentrated light.	Dec 12 23:31
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cubexyz	some old computers didn't use plastic for the case	Dec 12 23:32
cubexyz	but that's rare	Dec 12 23:32
msb_	My computer is a dual-core AMD with 8GB, and it can play HEVC/x265 videos, so I have no need to upgrade.	Dec 12 23:32
cubexyz	slot 1 also had some of the best heat dissipation	Dec 12 23:33
cubexyz	tech as regressed in that regard	Dec 12 23:33
cubexyz	I see laptops with heat damage all the time	Dec 12 23:34
msb_	I think its better to go to non-polluting energy, like solar, cold-fusion/CANR, or even well-designed fission, rather than restrict everyone's energy usage to the point of making life difficult.	Dec 12 23:35
cubexyz	over use of plastics is a big problem	Dec 12 23:35
msb_	But we burn far more oil for energy than we use for making plastics.	Dec 12 23:36
cubexyz	in general perhaps, I do a lot of walking :)	Dec 12 23:36
msb_	I might like a wearable computer, with VR goggles and a keyboard in one pocket and the guts in another.	Dec 12 23:38
msb_	Very lightweight goggles.	Dec 12 23:38
cubexyz	oil is a problem, totally agree	Dec 12 23:38
msb_	It should not be burned.	Dec 12 23:38
cubexyz	oil spills? terrible	Dec 12 23:39
msb_	Non-polluting energy generation, plus batteries or hydrogen for cars.	Dec 12 23:39
cubexyz	I'm a big re-user of old stuff so that helps	Dec 12 23:39
roy_	https://twitter.com/Mark_Antony/status/543018956647591937	Dec 12 23:40
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msb_	Lots of production of useless stuff in wealthy countries is because capitalism is tied to a 40 hour work week. So to keep people employed, even though technology does most of the work, requires production of lots of unneeded goods.	Dec 12 23:42
cubexyz	how many models of iphones were there? 5? 6?	Dec 12 23:43
msb_	Ultimately, we need socialism, about a 10 hour work week, a huge tax on wealth, and a comfortable lifestyle -- neither restrictive nor conspicuous-consumption,	Dec 12 23:44
cubexyz	msb_, I don't mind working more than 10 hours per week	Dec 12 23:45
msb_	That would work for the entire world population.	Dec 12 23:45
cubexyz	I'd probably go crazy if I didn't	Dec 12 23:45
msb_	cubexyz: Fine, if you want to.	Dec 12 23:45
roy_	Interesting that the anti-Assange 'comedy' is written by this man: http://greekemmy.com/2014/12/11/bbc-writer-thom-phipps-advocates-the-murder-of-julian-assange/	Dec 12 23:45
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msb_	There's enough going on in the world that just reading about it or watching videos of it is more than I have time for, and I'm retired.	Dec 12 23:46
msb_	I wish I had time to do more programming!	Dec 12 23:47
cubexyz	just checking out new distros could be a full time job :)	Dec 12 23:47
msb_	Yup. I only need the one.	Dec 12 23:48
cubexyz	programming does require a fair amount of mental energy	Dec 12 23:49
cubexyz	it's a question of prioritizing	Dec 12 23:49
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msb_	I've found a perfect food: pizza with beef (with the fat blotted off), provolone, artichoke hearts, mushrooms, roasted garlic, tomato sauce. And they deliver!	Dec 12 23:50
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msb_	I want to write my own editor, based on BRIEF, but instead of an interpreted language for extensions, you just write them in C or Ruby, compile them and re-link.	Dec 12 23:51
msb_	Should be very small and simple, and on modern computers, re-linking only takes a couple of seconds.	Dec 12 23:53
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cubexyz	ooo, there's a site selling thinkpads with coreboot	Dec 13 01:49
cubexyz	no stock though... hmmm	Dec 13 01:50
cubexyz	T60 and X60	Dec 13 01:53
cubexyz	I qw	Dec 13 01:54
cubexyz	oops	Dec 13 01:54
cubexyz	evidently that's what Stallman is using these days: a thinkpad x60 with libreboot (coreboot)	Dec 13 01:59
cubexyz	and Trisquel	Dec 13 01:59
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MinceR	http://fi8.eu.apcdn.com/full/126411.jpg	Dec 13 13:25
cubexyz	why not just put Sauron in there? :)	Dec 13 13:30
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 13:36
MinceR	the windows logo matches the swastika better	Dec 13 13:36
roy	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/13/us/politics/amid-details-on-torture-data-on-26-held-in-error-.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share	Dec 13 13:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@bickart The Jeff Bickart CRM Daily is out!	Dec 13 15:22
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MinceR	also, sauron wouldn't be evil enough for m$	Dec 13 16:00
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roy	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294953	Dec 13 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jaywink@iliketoast.net: Meh, my #Firefox is somehow completely broken. Weird rendering sometimes, page resets to top on random, HTML5 reveal.js slides don't work, home/end buttons don't work. Tried remove/reinstall, no help. Trued stable, beta and developer edition - all the same. Any tips? What dependant libraries could cause this on #Ubuntu? Chromium is fine, everything sweet.		Dec 13 16:34
roy	I am moving back to Rekonq. Firefox conf went crazy for me.	Dec 13 16:35
MinceR	try making a new profile?	Dec 13 16:36
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFC	Great news! The author of the Seatab-X extension for Mozilla SeaMonkey has decided to release his extension under version 2.0 of the Mozilla Public License, which makes the extension Free and open-source software, and which also automatically makes the license compatible with the GNU General Public License.	Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFC	Now you can have close tab buttons in your Seamonkey browser without installing proprietary software.	Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFC	The new maintainer is hosting the extension on the official Mozilla add-ons site.	Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFC	https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/seatab-x-2/	Dec 13 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org \| SeaTab-X-2 :: Add-ons for SeaMonkey [ http://ur1.ca/hno5e ]		Dec 13 17:01
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 17:07
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	2 mins · Edited ·	Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/12/anti-gay-n-c-church-members-indicted-on-felony-kidnapping-assault-of-gay-man/	Dec 13 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lgbtqnation.com \| Anti-gay N.C. church members indicted on felony kidnapping, assault of gay man – LGBTQ Nation [ http://ur1.ca/j3w79 ]		Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	"In 1995, the church was the subject of an "Inside Edition" report on its "blasting" techniques, in which a person is encircled by church members and subjected to high-pitched shrilling sounds, screams and prayers. Blasting sessions can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours."	Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	Sounds legit....	Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	Mason von Mason says:	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	RT isn't going to like this!	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	Reich Thinking, Bowel Movement, and Remarkably Stupid Bastard definitely will not approve.	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	I've got my retard flame retardant underwear on standby.	Dec 13 18:03
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	MinceR: I decided that while I'm working on rebuilding my new computer, I'm just going to forget about trying to get Microsoft to reactivate my copy of Windows.	Dec 13 18:04
DaemonFC	In the two hours on the phone arguing with them about it, I could just install Fedora and have everything copied over.	Dec 13 18:05
DaemonFC	I tried out Fedora 21 on my Core i7/R9 270X and it ran great, even with just open source drivers.	Dec 13 18:05
MinceR	:>	Dec 13 18:06
DaemonFC	So, I don't think I really need any proprietary software in the kernel anymore.	Dec 13 18:06
DaemonFC	Proprietary video drivers are basically the cause of upwards of 90% of your Linux frustrations these days anyway.	Dec 13 18:06
DaemonFC	The proportional share grows as the quality of the rest of the Linux distributions gets better.	Dec 13 18:07
MinceR	until systemd shits itself, as it's bound to do. :>	Dec 13 18:07
DaemonFC	Nah. I've never had any real problems with systemd.	Dec 13 18:07
MinceR	not yet, you mean	Dec 13 18:07
DaemonFC	I did have a lot of problems with Pulseaudio when it was new-ish.	Dec 13 18:07
DaemonFC	So many problems that I gave up and went back to using Windows XP x64 Edition for a while while things settled down.	Dec 13 18:08
MinceR	pulseaudio couldn't hang your system, though.	Dec 13 18:08
DaemonFC	The hell it couldn't.	Dec 13 18:08
DaemonFC	Have you ever tried using ALSA-OSS with Pulseaudio running?	Dec 13 18:08
DaemonFC	Well, that would be a moot point now anyway. Fedora and Ubuntu have deactivated the OSS 3 compatibility layer anyway.	Dec 13 18:09
MinceR	i haven't	Dec 13 18:09
DaemonFC	To get OSS emulation back, you're going to need a custom kernel.	Dec 13 18:09
DaemonFC	It makes a few old apps lose their sound, but I can see why they made this move.	Dec 13 18:09
DaemonFC	Some proprietary application developers were still writing new apps using the OSS 3 API, and they can't get away with that now, so they stopped.	Dec 13 18:10
MinceR	http://www.theonion.com/articles/rising-income-inequality-causing-wealthy-americans,37652/	Dec 13 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com \| Rising Income Inequality Causing Wealthy Americans To Take On Second Sailboat \| The Onion - America's Finest News Source [ http://ur1.ca/j3wbw ]		Dec 13 18:19
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294434	Dec 13 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not only the #uk has multiple #nsa bases (paid for and operated by the #us to spy on us) http://rt.com/in-motion/213151-berlin-nsa-spy-station/ #germany #imperialism #us		Dec 13 18:34
schestowitz	"Any country that hosts a US military base should be considered a US protectorate, Germany, Poland, even #Greece (unfortunately)."	Dec 13 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rt.com \| Drone footage of former NSA spy station in Germany — RT In motion [ http://ur1.ca/j3wgk ]		Dec 13 18:34
schestowitz	Leadership chosen by surveillance and bribe	Dec 13 18:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294617	Dec 13 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa hoards all data from everyone not because everyone is suspected of a crime but because people easily controlled through blackmail. #mlk		Dec 13 18:35
schestowitz	"Among the blackmail victims possibly Merkel ,Oland and other leaders who were being spied on..."	Dec 13 18:35
schestowitz	If she knows she is being watched, she will "behave" (subservient to US)	Dec 13 18:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294329	Dec 13 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #schmidt did not care about #privacy until it hurt his shares' value http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/internet/3590906/schmidt-nsa-revelations-forced-google-to-lock-down-data/ http://thehill.com/policy/technology/226962-google-head-we-dont-spy-on-you		Dec 13 18:37
schestowitz	"Let us all start a crowd-funding campaign to help Google against the evil NSA."	Dec 13 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| Schmidt: NSA revelations forced Google to lock down data - PC Advisor [ http://ur1.ca/j3wh7 ]		Dec 13 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thehill.com \| Google: We don’t spy on you \| TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/j3wha ]		Dec 13 18:37
schestowitz	As if....	Dec 13 18:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5292657	Dec 13 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Researchers 'Averaged' The Faces Of 400 CEOs — And The Results Say A Lot About Race In Business http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-average-face-of-400-ceos-2014-12?r=US #whiteprivilege #pr		Dec 13 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com \| The Average Face Of 400 CEOs - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/j3whj ]		Dec 13 18:38
schestowitz	"Woman looks Russian :-)."	Dec 13 18:38
schestowitz	Caucasians are projecting trust among much of the world	Dec 13 18:38
DaemonFC	Well, at least this 10 year old Dell craputer with Windoze XP can run Gens.	Dec 13 18:54
DaemonFC	Old DOS games and stuff.	Dec 13 18:54
DaemonFC	sigh	Dec 13 18:54
DaemonFC	I'm going to go nuts if I can't get my Core i7 system back up and running.	Dec 13 18:55
DaemonFC	This old Celery processor can't even play Youtube videos smoothly.	Dec 13 18:55
DaemonFC	I went to install HexChat and it told me it doesn't support Windows XP anymore.	Dec 13 18:56
DaemonFC	So I'm using ChatZilla.	Dec 13 18:56
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 20:11
DaemonFC	http://www.alternet.org/week-religion-kentucky-govt-finally-cuts-subsidies-noahs-ark-museum	Dec 13 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org \| This Week in Religion: Kentucky Govt Finally Cuts Off Subsidies to Noah's Ark Museum \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/j3xbf ]		Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	Ken Ham bought a billboard saying "Thank God you can't sink this ship.".	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	Technically, you can't sink a ship that's nowhere near water. I'm not sure why you'd thank God for that unless you're an idiot that built a ship that was nowhere near water.	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	In all seriousness, the fact that the taxpayer giveaway of $18 million was ever on the table is horrible. How many hungry people in Kentucky could be fed with $18 million? Instead, the state was seriously floating (no pun intended) the idea of subsidizing a for-profit Noah's Ark replica, designed to lure in gullible fools who believe that the biblical flood actually happened.	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	nameinuse says:	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	With global warming and all maybe it wiil be useful eventually.	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	Well, that brings us to the next obvious statement.	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	"Thank God you can't sink this ship" -Titanic victims. And that thing was made out of metal! B-)	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	nameinuse says:	Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFC	Theirs is made out of faith. Just like chemotherapy.	Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFC	Their faith is so weak that they feel the need to lash out irrationally and sometimes violently at people who question it.	Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFC	I can't imagine anything that frail managing to hold a ship together. ;)	Dec 13 20:21
MinceR	:>	Dec 13 20:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source	Dec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Benchmarking Test Farm	Dec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ivoYP4xj1W (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 20:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source Linux Benchmarking Test Farm \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qgttPJ6gPY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xvt	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Week in Techrights http://t.co/4qBuhzB9hV	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xvu	Dec 13 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	Repos http://t.co/jUM49mkjPd	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 13 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official Repos - Softpedia		Dec 13 21:24
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MinceR	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwMzg	Dec 13 21:28
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MinceR	unfixed for a year	Dec 13 21:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Original Strife: Veteran Edition, The	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	Original FPS & RPG Hybrid On Steam For Linux,	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	We Have Keys http://t.co/YkbLMTTC0V	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xys	Dec 13 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Original Strife: Veteran Edition, The Original FPS & RPG Hybrid On Steam For Linux, We Have Keys \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "GNU/Linux continues its takeoff. There’s	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	growth everywhere and it’s increasing."	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5rR8SOrId4 (mrpogson.com)	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xyt	Dec 13 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| The Good News Just Keeps Flowing \| Robert Pogson		Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Week in Techrights http://t.co/8BPRFyjjbp	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xyw	Dec 13 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	Repos http://t.co/0tH4Uls1Ud	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xzh	Dec 13 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official Repos \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	Launch On Linux, Sorta (UPDATED)	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yHjxHaqykV (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xzi	Dec 13 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux Launch On Linux, Sorta (UPDATED) \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 13 21:38
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sebsebseb	hi	Dec 13 21:48
MinceR	hay	Dec 13 21:50
sebsebseb	MinceR: hi	Dec 13 21:50
sebsebseb	MinceR: a thing on TV about Apple on Thursday	Dec 13 21:50
sebsebseb	oh jono is in here :d	Dec 13 21:51
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sebsebseb	well was in here then	Dec 13 21:51
MinceR	lol	Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz	> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2859122/your-linux-pc-isnt-as-secure-as-you-think-it-is.html	Dec 13 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| Your Linux PC isn't as secure as you think it is \| PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/j3y3i ]		Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz	>	Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz	> trollin	Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz	Seen that. I don't think the author can be dubbed troll though, given his background. I just let the first comment speak out...	Dec 13 21:53
MinceR	sebsebseb: you scared him away nicely, could do that more often ;)	Dec 13 21:54
schestowitz	> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/e-regulation/berners-lee-erosion-web-freedoms-157386	Dec 13 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk \| Sir Tim Berners-Lee Warns Of Erosion Of Web Freedoms [ http://ur1.ca/j3y4y ]		Dec 13 21:58
schestowitz	>	Dec 13 21:58
schestowitz	> Still does not match his endorsement of DRM	Dec 13 21:58
MinceR	lol	Dec 13 21:59
MinceR	emperor tim berners-lee warns us that he has eroded web freedoms!	Dec 13 21:59
MinceR	thank you, tim berners-lee, we haven't noticed!	Dec 13 21:59
schestowitz	lol	Dec 13 22:04
schestowitz	http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Facebook-Dumps-Microsoft-MSFT-FB-4825740.php	Dec 13 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com \| Facebook Dumps Microsoft (MSFT, FB) - SFGate [ http://ur1.ca/j3y6o ]		Dec 13 22:05
MinceR	does this mean m$ no longer gets a live feed of dumbFuckBook users' personal data? :>	Dec 13 22:07
schestowitz	> http://michigandaily.com/news/levin-highlights-bipartisanship-farewell-address	Dec 13 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michigandaily.com \| Levin highlights bipartisanship in farewell address - The Michigan Daily [ http://ur1.ca/j3y7m ]		Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz	>	Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz	> He was great and was often in international news for the good things he	Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz	> was doing.	Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz	I remember him for many reasons, mostly good.	Dec 13 22:09
*TweetTuxMachines @omicron6 favourited 'Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux...'		Dec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyberpunk RTS Satellite Reign Arrives on Steam	Dec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux http://t.co/JDl3cs97Wp	Dec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 13 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Cyberpunk RTS Satellite Reign Arrives on Steam for Linux - Softpedia		Dec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3y9i	Dec 13 22:17
*TweetTuxMachines @7point11 followed @tuxmachines		Dec 13 22:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/deena651us/status/543896987649601536	Dec 13 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deena651us: True “@schestowitz: #drones strikes, torture wars of conquest. r th fuel of #terrorism just ask recruit of violent groups why they r joining		Dec 13 22:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon Edition : Video	Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	Overview and Screenshot Tours	Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8aQ4jZjsFd (linuxscoop.com)	Dec 13 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com \| Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon Edition : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours - Linux Scoop		Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines When android software comes to rizen linux	Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/F9rofAw98A (www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 13 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Watch Styler App updated to version 1.0.05, shows better Compatibility with Gear S - Tizen Experts		Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail	Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	SoCs http://t.co/qY1AKfSydO (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 13 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail SoCs · LinuxGizmos.com		Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear “Lollipop” First Look and Tour!	Dec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/tl6C0N6quy (www.droid-life.com)	Dec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3yk9	Dec 13 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.droid-life.com \| Android Wear “Lollipop” First Look and Tour! \| Droid Life		Dec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nautilus Ported To New GTK Widgets For GNOME	Dec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines	3.16 http://t.co/BecPXWKfwJ (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 13 22:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Nautilus Ported To New GTK Widgets For GNOME 3.16		Dec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SparkyLinux 3.6 "Annagerman" Lands with LXDE,	Dec 13 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	MATE, Razor-Qt, and Xfce Flavors	Dec 13 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Se0YkO6YP6 (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 13 22:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| SparkyLinux 3.6 "Annagerman" Lands with LXDE, MATE, Razor-Qt, and Xfce Flavors - Softpedia		Dec 13 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear update: Everything you need to	Dec 13 22:55
TweetTuxMachines	know http://t.co/rTuv7h3cHq (www.wareable.com)	Dec 13 22:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside CoreOS Linux, Why Fleet and etcd Matter	Dec 13 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source	Dec 13 22:56
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Benchmarking Test Farm	Dec 13 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture	Dec 13 23:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail	Dec 13 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	SoCs http://t.co/4MUr7i7lOY	Dec 13 23:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Crowdfunding a USB-stick-sized, GNU/Linux-ready	Dec 13 23:14
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5260001	Dec 07 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android motorcycle helmet open for pre-order http://linuxgizmos.com/skuly-android-motorcycle-helmet-open-for-pre-order/ #android #linux		Dec 07 00:27
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schestowitz__	"As someone who rode cycles quite a lot when I was younger, this sounds like a bad idea. You want all of your attention on THE ROAD, not a half-ton of info 2 inches in front of your nose."	Dec 07 00:27
schestowitz__	""	Dec 07 00:28
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 00:28
schestowitz__	"This sounds like a very bad idea."	Dec 07 00:28
schestowitz__	Maybe text reading while you ride... next, adding "OK Google" to type some...	Dec 07 00:28
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5264411	Dec 07 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #phoronix Linux Test Farm http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1NDg great stuff		Dec 07 00:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 7/12/2014: Typhoon Hagupit, AURORAGOLD	Dec 07 01:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/3ZMN8Zud25	Dec 07 01:39
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cubexyz	schestowitz, or whoever is reading...	Dec 07 07:29
cubexyz	I had to explicitly block some microsoft urls from my adsense	Dec 07 07:29
cubexyz	I saw a few "upgrade to windows 8.1" ads on my blog	Dec 07 07:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5264523	Dec 07 08:15
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schestowitz__	"cute kitten dreams of nothing but murder all day."	Dec 07 08:15
schestowitz__	cubexyz: that's their target audience	Dec 07 08:15
schestowitz__	trying to convert the other side	Dec 07 08:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/Vem7P0AjdR	Dec 07 08:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ubuntu and canonical Chasing the wrong problems	Dec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OXNMv1DHyE (benjaminkerensa.com)	Dec 07 08:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FirefoxOS tethering in action	Dec 07 08:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up	Dec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines	Arch Linux http://t.co/G7iyCrqEZ9	Dec 07 08:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chasing the wrong problems	Dec 07 09:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up	Dec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	Arch Linux http://t.co/PeerV7QPSj	Dec 07 09:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,	Dec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/JG2PqCUvKQ	Dec 07 09:17
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/541544986379300864	Dec 07 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz what is remarkable is that even their censored truth is too damaging to release...that says a lot right there.		Dec 07 10:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Continues its March into the	Dec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprise http://t.co/chBpBYSVcI	Dec 07 11:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source Continues its March into the Enterprise \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pydio: open source alternative to Dropbox & Box	Dec 07 11:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,	Dec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/nvzE8AI6ib	Dec 07 11:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/metacode/status/541554416491696129	Dec 07 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@metacode: Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop http://t.co/ZKGCGKW9cN (@schestowitz) "The Babe of Neoliberalism"		Dec 07 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ukprogressive.co.uk \| Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop \| UK Progressive		Dec 07 11:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541558895265607681	Dec 07 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz And thank you to @timberners_lee for the HTML groundwork. Adobe DRM will still be in HTML5 but that's better than #adobe Trash.		Dec 07 11:50
schestowitz	No, @timberners_lee messed up in a very big way by endorsing #drm in #html5 after #mpaa had paid #w3c	Dec 07 11:50
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541561640601149440	Dec 07 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I said thanks to him for HTML. I'm not convinced DRM can be kept out of HTML5. Regardless, better than Flash.		Dec 07 11:59
schestowitz	It was already out of HTML. Then came HTML5 and with support from TimBL and Mozilla (among others) DRM got in.	Dec 07 11:59
DaemonFC	schestowitz, A friend's iPhone got hijacked by malware and started sending me pornographic spam on Facebook.	Dec 07 12:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840 https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566316067295233 https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566614290706432	Dec 07 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not exist		Dec 07 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I think this is a compromise that at least can help us throw out the Trash. But I understand why it's not ideal		Dec 07 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: .@schestowitz @timberners_lee Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?		Dec 07 12:43
schestowitz	DaemonFC: was the pr0n at least good, or just some spam URLs?	Dec 07 12:44
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840	Dec 07 12:44
schestowitz	"Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?"	Dec 07 12:44
DaemonFC	Stuff like "Hook up with women in your local area."	Dec 07 12:45
DaemonFC	That link is dead, according to Twitter.	Dec 07 12:45
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schestowitz	.@petrock I don't think DRM is needed at all, except by the copyright monopoly, which we don't need (should adapt to - not tame - WWW)	Dec 07 12:46
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MinceR	(nsfw) http://de1.eu.apcdn.com/full/126290.jpg	Dec 07 13:46
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/5415893284936https://twitter.com/petrock/status/54158932849369088090880	Dec 07 14:18
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schestowitz	No, common error. DRM exists in some areas, but in others it struggles to gain traction, e.g. Web. Tim B-L ushered it in.	Dec 07 14:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541599086319640576	Dec 07 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz In practice, people are installing "Trash" to access media served through the web browser. Isn't this better if not perfect?		Dec 07 14:43
schestowitz	People installed Trash to play YouTube (they no longer need to do this). I don't know people using it for DRM stuff (rarity)	Dec 07 14:44
MinceR	even for videos with ads?	Dec 07 14:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541604604903825408	Dec 07 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I know a lot of people who use Trash to stream movies and sports. Youtube is a big player but not the only big player.		Dec 07 14:51
schestowitz	MinceR: meh	Dec 07 14:52
schestowitz	either way, we don't rely much on DRM	Dec 07 14:52
schestowitz	streams and DRM are separate things	Dec 07 14:52
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schestowitz	"I don't know who are your usual sources around the EPO. Check with them in case you have doubts on the authenticity. This is my first and last email ever."	Dec 07 15:55
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856	Dec 07 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.		Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__	the only thing that doesn't work yet is pausing a video and resuming it a long time later, like the next day; it plays for a while (what's still cached in the buffer) and then displays an error. With flash it reloads the vid and resumes playing; not very beautiful either but at least it works""	Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__	"I'm glad to see that Flash is no longer required. As good as the plug-in might be for some, especially for streaming TV channels, it opens up a can of worms in the form of invasive advertisements."	Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__	"So Youtube's no skip ads are only their own design???"	Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__	"With a plug-in like Ghostery, which blocks tracking cookies, the "no skip" ads don't come up."	Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__	"Thanks for that, and when I have an up to date real Chrome, (my defunct Linux distro has an ancient Chromium that Google Play refuses to talk to), and I have bandwidth of my own, I may get it. Still, are there NO free lunches left in this world?"	Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265594	Dec 07 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "if the report is not released in a way [Udall] deems transparent, he would consider all options to make it public " http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115		Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.esquire.com \| Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]		Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.	Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'	Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5251963	Dec 07 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google Can Now Tell You’re Not a Robot With Just One Click http://www.wired.com/2014/12/google-one-click-recaptcha/ #google #security #captcha		Dec 07 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com \| Google Can Now Tell You're Not a Robot With Just One Click \| WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/j1feq ]		Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__	Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.	Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__	My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'	Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__	Which magically makes them "good" for privacy	Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5263442	Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: B&N should take #microsoft to court again, both for #extortion and for #bribery http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-barnes-noble-end-nook-marriage-for-62-million/ http://techrights.org/2014/12/06/bribes-against-linux/		Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com \| Microsoft, B&N dissolve Nook marriage for $62 million - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffd ]		Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	Oh wait, I forgot about the $1.7 billion dollar share of B&N that Microsoft stole as part of their "deal". Was that announced at the time or did they play some kind of shell game where the value only became evident as Microsoft unloaded the shares onto "institutional investors" who strangely enough think it's worthless today? The $300 in cash may still have served as a bribe despite the larger cost to B&N shareholders. Board members	Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	and executives would have been paid off with it.	Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| The Threat is Not Over: Microsoft Bribes Against Linux Adoption and in Favour of Extortion Against Linux \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j189l ]		Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	Now Microsoft is handing themselves another $67 million and CNet spins that as Nook being worthless. After Microsoft ruined them it might be, but that's not an inherent problem or the nature of things.	Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	"Rape labeled "marriage" in article."	Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	The power of spin	Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5259958	Dec 07 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2014/court-ruling-paves-the-way-for-european-court-of-human-rights-to-consider-%E2%80%9Cprivacy-not-prism%E2%80%9D-case #privacy #prism		Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	"Governments have abandoned brutality? Or just made it less public and gory? I lived in China for 12 years. There brutality is present and endemic in both the governed and the government."	Dec 07 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffr ]		Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	I was responding to the first comment	Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265940	Dec 07 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whether the Senate ends up 'declassifying' (publishing) the whole #torture report, #wyden #udall or some unknown source will 'leak' it		Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__	This feels a bit too evasive to me:	Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__	http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115	Dec 07 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esquire.com \| Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]		Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265879	Dec 07 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #udall does not need to do much except read out the blacked out bits in the Senate's #torture report. Someone will transcribe, merge.		Dec 07 18:58
schestowitz__	"My impression is that this 'reading' isn't even anywhere as hard as it sounds. He just has to give the word, and they'll put it in the Congressional Record."	Dec 07 18:58
schestowitz__	Even better than	Dec 07 18:58
schestowitz__	then	Dec 07 18:58
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265507	Dec 07 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The thing terror cells should fear most is the end of drone strikes and other such violations of intl' law as it would impede their growth		Dec 07 18:58
schestowitz__	"Indeed. It must have been hard not to notice the symbiotic relationship between Osama bin Laden and George W. Bush that existed for a few years immediately following 9/11. Obama seems unable to pull that off so that he, rather than just the insurgents, enjoys a propaganda benefit."	Dec 07 18:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live !	Dec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/tj4qwL4mIH (makululinux.com)	Dec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1gti	Dec 07 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-makululinux.com \| MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live ! \| MakuluLinux		Dec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In	Dec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/JEu5mugwWC	Dec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1gtj	Dec 07 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19		Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__	cubelog1: http://cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/order-linux-discs.html	Dec 07 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk \| Notes on Linux: Order Linux Discs [ http://ur1.ca/j1gty ]		Dec 07 22:15
schestowitz__	"Avoid Systemd by trying AntiX, Slackware or OpenBSD."	Dec 07 22:15
schestowitz__	Do you dislike it this much?	Dec 07 22:15
schestowitz__	cubexyz ^	Dec 07 22:16
schestowitz__	http://www.xombra.com/index.php?do=noticias&nota=6711&op=4&t=xanadu-gnu-linux-busca-beta-te	Dec 07 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xombra.com \| Xanadu GNU/Linux busca beta testers! - xombra.com [ http://ur1.ca/j1gu5 ]		Dec 07 22:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	But Still Tough Catalyst Fight	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7dY7UqR9Gv (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqe	Dec 07 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight Review		Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lGmS2PH0tm (www.mobilenapps.com)	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqf	Dec 07 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobilenapps.com \| UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) : Mobile : Mobile & Apps		Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/xCSCBttZma	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqg	Dec 07 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19 \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	But Still Tough Catalyst Fight	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4QIsXIINRk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqm	Dec 07 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Q4dmnDVSAr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqn	Dec 07 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NINpPoLx2E (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqo	Dec 07 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 22:59
cubexyz	schestowitz, personally yes	Dec 07 23:32
cubexyz	I'm merely pointing out alternatives	Dec 07 23:33
cubexyz	AntiX looks interesting	Dec 07 23:33
cubexyz	the younger linux users seem more in favour of systemd	Dec 07 23:35
cubexyz	if you want systemd there are tons of distros out there to choose from	Dec 07 23:35
cubexyz	if you want to avoid systemd one needs to be more particular	Dec 07 23:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	Editions Officially Released	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AJrEi1rYYC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1in7	Dec 07 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steve Kemp (Debian): "I had to fight with the	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	Debian installer to get the beast working"	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PxOCHCnMdv (blog.steve.org.uk)	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1ind	Dec 07 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.org.uk \| I eventually installed Debian on a new desktop.		Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/MfU7aDqmmD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1ing	Dec 07 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 23:40
cubexyz	I don't like distros that drop support for 32-bit cpus or that look bad on 4:3 screens	Dec 07 23:41
cubexyz	but that's another blog post for later	Dec 07 23:41
cubexyz	even dropping 486 support is bad I'd say	Dec 07 23:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released	Dec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lC2FzbPyrp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1j30	Dec 08 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for	Dec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/2jUhAASGWp	Dec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1j33	Dec 08 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for Ubuntu Touch \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Prisoners learning how to code with Linux	Dec 08 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/m2wPj0zvk3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1j35	Dec 08 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Prisoners learning how to code with Linux \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill	Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	to developers http://t.co/sADvpoOior	Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jfl	Dec 08 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming	Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	To The Galaxy S5 http://t.co/6gIUH1Iczk	Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jfm	Dec 08 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming To The Galaxy S5 \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Og Maciel: "today is my 3-year anniversary at	Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat!"	Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UT15phTPEF (omaciel.github.io)	Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jfn	Dec 08 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-omaciel.github.io \| Three Years and Counting!		Dec 08 01:00
cubexyz	schestowitz, that antiX site you linked to has microsoft ads	Dec 08 01:04
cubexyz	http://www.linuxscreenshots.org	Dec 08 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org \| Linux Distribution Screenshot Tours		Dec 08 01:04
cubexyz	looks like they are targetting linux sites for sure	Dec 08 01:04
cubexyz	I've got microsoft.com blocked, should have done that years ago	Dec 08 01:05
schestowitz__	cubexyz: not internationally	Dec 08 01:05
schestowitz__	through third party	Dec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "I'm glad to announce that I've been awarded a	Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	5,000 USD "Flash Grant" by the Shuttleworth	Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	Foundation." http://t.co/08bA6PdU14	Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	(upsilon.cc)	Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jhv	Dec 08 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-upsilon.cc \| Shuttleworth Foundation Flash Grant		Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8Bv	Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jhw	Dec 08 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung and open source \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; No	Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony Xperia	Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iYUKEF8kMT (www.gospelherald.com)	Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jhx	Dec 08 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gospelherald.com \| Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; No Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony Xperia \| Gospelherald.com		Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has Announced	Dec 08 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	New Mystery Game http://t.co/mf8731Afhg	Dec 08 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 08 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jor	Dec 08 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has Announced New Mystery Game \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 08 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same	Dec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	Performance as X11 http://t.co/3iByR1xnCL	Dec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 - Softpedia		Dec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jos	Dec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup Looks	Dec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	Stunning http://t.co/m1GIwPymcr	Dec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup Looks Stunning - Softpedia		Dec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jot	Dec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RHQ 4.13 released http://t.co/IUnRKkeCdZ	Dec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines	(pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 08 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk \| Some things to remember: RHQ 4.13 released		Dec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jqv	Dec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 21 Release on December 9 Confirmed	Dec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BxrDXOph1j (linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kbDJ1qFAVz (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jqx	Dec 08 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Fedora 21 Release on December 9 Confirmed - Softpedia		Dec 08 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Fedora 21 Is Coming In Just Two Days With Big Improvements		Dec 08 01:36
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8Bv'		Dec 08 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung and open source \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with	Dec 08 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	New Update http://t.co/nYZBllG3Zv	Dec 08 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jt0	Dec 08 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with New Update - Softpedia		Dec 08 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Quick Start Guide	Dec 08 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2yWwbvfbX7	Dec 08 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.adityapatawari.com) essential reading for	Dec 08 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adityapatawari.com \| Docker Quick Start Guide		Dec 08 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	sysadmins	Dec 08 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jt1	Dec 08 01:42
*TweetTuxMachines @SteamSwapReddit favourited 'Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with...'		Dec 08 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same	Dec 08 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	Performance as X11 http://t.co/KS1bxBvp1S	Dec 08 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jwk	Dec 08 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/RDhgOFWgEC	Dec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k26	Dec 08 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Features On The Horizon For The Linux	Dec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/7fLaTOO2Xw	Dec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k27	Dec 08 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] New Features On The Horizon For The Linux Kernel		Dec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.18 released http://t.co/bGKYm2fSKV	Dec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines	(lkml.iu.edu) " It's been a quiet week, and the	Dec 08 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu \| Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 3.18 released		Dec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines	patch from rc7 is tiny, so 3.18 is out."	Dec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k29	Dec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released	Dec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WvX20rMtLj (linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k2a	Dec 08 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released - Softpedia		Dec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs	Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	Editions Officially Released	Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/V3XzjjSEVt (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k3r	Dec 08 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released - Softpedia		Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best	Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review	Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yUgXnIuHxG (www.forbes.com)	Dec 08 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review - Forbes		Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k3t	Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released	Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5Owov1DKy9 (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k3u	Dec 08 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released - Softpedia		Dec 08 02:12
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778724786429952 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778878419591168	Dec 08 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz heh, I thought you trying to call companies open-sourcing things #openwashing was kinda sad, but #mono theism is funny. :)		Dec 08 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I have a copy of VS 2015 preview installed and they're trying to tie in w/ Xamarin for cross-platform mobile dev. But the		Dec 08 02:21
schestowitz__	all about spreading the API that is a patent threat and domination factor for Microsoft, universally, across devices/platforms	Dec 08 02:21
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779083298762752 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779188017946625	Dec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Xamarin component installer for Windows wouldn't work so I haven't tried making a project. You need a Mac w/ Xcode anyway to		Dec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz do Xamarin development for iOS, and you can do Xamarin on Android from Linux or Mac, so Windows is the worst platform for it.		Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779303692660736	Dec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz except if you want to run on Windows Phone of course. MSFT is trying so hard to play their old games of locking people in!		Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__	No, they luuuurve ... "open source"... they say so	Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779452426858496	Dec 08 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz yep. They want to lock people into patented XAML, which is more complicated and confusing than non-patented XML or CSS layout.		Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__	XAML is another matter, even worse, but failing	Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779622568792065	Dec 08 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been thinking, you can find early Android engineers on video telling devs they chose Java over C# bc of fears of MSFT IP.		Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__	links?	Dec 08 02:24
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779773370810368 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779909039767553	Dec 08 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the irony is that all their OEMs ended up getting sued anyway by MSFT over other "essential" interop and API patents,		Dec 08 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and then also got sued by Oracle after they bought Sun, over Java. The irony is they should've gone w/ C#, better language!		Dec 08 02:24
schestowitz__	Better in what sense? Look at the stewardship... a criminal company.	Dec 08 02:25
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780044536770560	Dec 08 02:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm thinking of early Google I/O talks with Dan Bornstein, in the Q&A sections. I'll see what I can dig up.		Dec 08 02:25
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780307163107329	Dec 08 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz better in the technical sense, purely. As an engineer, I prefer C#. To pick one minor feature, it has unsigned types.		Dec 08 02:26
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780464369811456 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780590136004608 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780787897450497 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780948862255105	Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz it's a better language because they took all the good ideas from other languages that came before (incl Java, Ada, Delphi, etc)		Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz I think the other reasons the Android engineers chose Java over C# were familiarity from having done a previous JVM for Danger,		Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the feeling that there would be stronger Java IDE tooling (which there definitely is) than C#, and most used Mac or Linux.		Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz that's why I'm curious about Xamarin Studio as a third-party alternative to VS. I'm a huge fan of IntelliJ (Android Studio).		Dec 08 02:32
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781396839469056 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781635641774080	Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been a commercial or OSS user of IntelliJ since a Danger colleague recommended it to me in 2005: far superior to Eclipse!		Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the funny thing is that JetBrains open-sourced and made a free community version of IntelliJ IDEA, and then Google has been		Dec 08 02:32
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781968803729408 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782126371164161	Dec 08 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz licensing the code (and paying for a small in-house tools team) to support the (free but closed-source) Android Studio fork.		Dec 08 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I stand corrected: it appears that Android Studio itself is open-source and you can build it yourself (from within itself!) :P		Dec 08 02:33
schestowitz__	IC... Java/Apache.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Studio	Dec 08 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Android Studio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/j1kc9 ]		Dec 08 02:34
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782643004555264	Dec 08 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz BTW @jetbrains is equally well-known and popular as a C# tools vendor. They're also one of the few Czech tech companies I know.		Dec 08 02:36
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782992666914816 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541783442954784768 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784280695701504 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784393082101760 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784471897264129	Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'd say @jetbrains is a great model of a small company far from the tech hubs that succeeded by making really great products.		Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @jetbrains also found ways to embrace free and open-source models while also finding companies with money to bill for support.		Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: BTW @schestowitz you may find in the Oracle transcripts Andy Rubin answering q's about the big license fees that Danger paid to Sun for the		Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "TCK" kits to test the compatibility of Danger's clean-room Java implementation w/ Sun's J2ME, MIDP, etc. standards to get the		Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "coffee cup" logo prominently shown in the system info screen on the Sidekick/hiptop. That's why, even though I was still at		Dec 08 02:43
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784602398846976 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784710070808576	Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz Danger when I heard the news that Android (still secret but rumored to be working on a phone) announced their alliance to sell		Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz their own open-source Java-based mobile OS, not licensed from Sun. I figured that might cause them some trouble down the line,		Dec 08 02:43
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784814353805312 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784960407846912	Dec 08 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz but I kept my thoughts about the matter to myself (until just now). The trial made it pretty obvious that Oracle was hoping for		Dec 08 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz a similar type of payday that Sun had been trying to achieve with new-generation mobile platforms like they had been previously		Dec 08 02:44
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785110723297280 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785248292278272	Dec 08 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz with J2ME (MIDP, "midlets") for the old feature phones. The funny thing is the Sidekick had to support a MIDP emulation mode,		Dec 08 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz purely for the purposes of running Sun's testsuite that cost 6 or 7 figures to license. It's obvious why Android would want not		Dec 08 02:47
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785451569238017 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785564547002368 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785745728344064	Dec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz to get stuck in that situation in the first place, but I wasn't surprised that they would end up being challenged to cough up		Dec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz some equivalent form of tribute to the makers of Java, for something. Maybe the answer is only to use ISO or ECMA standards. :/		Dec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz except that you know just as I do how easily corrupted intl. standards bodies are, LOL! So what's the answer? C++/JS seem safe.		Dec 08 02:48
schestowitz__	GPLv3 for Java...	Dec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for	Dec 08 02:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming	Dec 08 02:49
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TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com) new compilers too	Dec 08 02:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers \| InfoWorld		Dec 08 02:50
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856	Dec 08 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.		Dec 08 02:56
schestowitz__	"I'd use Chrome but I don't trust Google. At best, I'd use Chromium and only because it's possible to install the Pepper API Flash plug-in in there but ultimately, I'd rather have a system without ANY kind of proprietary software."	Dec 08 02:56
schestowitz__	Sometimes I run Chromium but still feel guilty about it	Dec 08 02:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Features On The Horizon For The Linux	Dec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/CglMfp0EyG	Dec 08 04:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Features On The Horizon For The Linux Kernel \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.18 released http://t.co/2IuNM4wR1h	Dec 08 04:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.18 released \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 04:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/Z2ZrI1GTCn	Dec 08 04:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/vWYUto4E4l	Dec 08 04:48
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806658289008640 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806905660669953 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807075542564865 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807371261997056	Dec 08 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz that only applies if you use Oracle's official version of Java, not if you go write your own VM like Dalvik (or ART).		Dec 08 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz from what I gathered by reading the court coverage, the essential sticking point was that Sun didn't want a royalty-free AOSP.		Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the Android team didn't want to use Sun's JVM anyway, because they thought they could do better, and then give it away.		Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but why would anyone want to build a mobile OS on top of GPLv3 version of Java when all OEMs want to go Apache/BSD licensed?		Dec 08 08:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807887857614848 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808418546147328 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808566185623552 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808646246514688	Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz IMO rather than add a single new line of GPL, you'd have a more sellable product rebasing on top of *BSD kernel, not LInux. :)		Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the other impression I formed from the Oracle vs. Google case is that Java is dead outside of enterprise, smart cards, etc.		Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Java has a few markets where it utterly dominates, like COBOL does, or IBM mainframes, but in retrospect, applets in web pages		Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz were a doomed proposition bc they didn't have a proper bridge to the DOM. JavaScript was the real answer, but the VMs needed		Dec 08 08:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808797262442496 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808932025405440 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809241862836224 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809546449006592	Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz to catch up. The arrival of Chrome spurred interest elsewhere, and now there are multiple great open-source JS VMs besides V8.		Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Regardless, Java is too late to succeed on phones again, I think. It's had its day in the Sun, as it were. ;)		Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & on the closed-source, professional, high-end, supercomputer side is Apple, who have the best APIs, the best silicon, etc.		Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & notice that Apple has been against Java on iOS, against even letting Firefox, Chrome or any other browser use their own VM.		Dec 08 08:20
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809765513310209 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810145903132672 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810308428206080 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810437830873088 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810669457137664	Dec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz there's an interest in people cross-compiling from other source languages (Java, C#, JS) into Obj-C to get into Apple's store.		Dec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz tl;dr is I'm not going to second-guess the decisions made to use Java in the way Android did bc the plan obviously succeeded.		Dec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm trying to figure out what the mobile landscape is going to look like outside of iOS. I'm typing this on a Chromebook from		Dec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Google (purchased w/ my own money) that is doing everything in JavaScript and C++ (and some NaCl), no JVM whatsoever.		Dec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz it has an Intel Core processor and Google's ultra-sandboxed version of Adobe Flash, whose proprietary flavor of JavaScript is		Dec 08 08:21
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810776852275200 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810906380763136 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811110605635585 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811894122577920	Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz exactly what Sun was trying to do (and failed utterly) with Java applets. So even by its own standards (annoying adverts, DRM)		Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz a commercial, closed-source, non-free, JavaScript-based advertising platform beat Java applets and only now is HTML5 able to		Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz begin to finally kill off Flash to enable a fully open-standards based Web. Just like Steve Jobs would've wanted (no sarcasm).		Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Related: "No thank you, @infoworld, I won't be viewing those particular banner ads tonight." ;P http://t.co/zPDEJqrG48		Dec 08 08:23
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812764604252161 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812873207365632 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541813064706686976	Dec 08 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz The biggest irony of all with Java is their famous battle w/ Microsoft over control of the platform caused MSFT to scuttle a		Dec 08 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz perfectly good Java-based mobile platform (with Danger) along w/ doing anything Java-related at all for fear of more trouble.		Dec 08 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but first they invented .NET and C# to give themselves a completely different proprietary VM to tout & ultimately neglect. :/		Dec 08 08:24
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541856841169260544	Dec 08 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: cc @schestowitz: replacement #Android toolchain bypasses use of Oracle's javac and Java .class files, by @syegulalp http://t.co/PYMimzf67k		Dec 08 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com \| Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers \| InfoWorld		Dec 08 08:25
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265763	Dec 08 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World? http://www.malaysiandigest.com/business/531531-does-china-really-have-the-most-powerful-economy-in-the-world.html interesting points. #china		Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__	"Are you trying to get me talking about the banks??? (suitable emoticon)."	Dec 08 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.malaysiandigest.com \| Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World?		Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5267125	Dec 08 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the Chinese economy halted production tomorrow, would anyone notice? How about US halt? Therein lies the answer about economic dominance.		Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	If the US halted production tomorrow that would leave me with bad taste in the mouth.	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	Believe it or not I haven't managed to find toothpaste and toothbrushes non-US made, besides that I have been doing fine.	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	They're made in China too (brushes)	Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856	Dec 08 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.		Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__	"I completely understand you, I feel the same way. I'm not using GNU/Linux at this very moment but when I do again, it'll be completely free with Trisquel most likely. It's not open-source that I believe in but rather free software. Chromium does not strike me as free software."	Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__	"Chromium could not be FREE considering Google's ethos. So why use an out of date version of Chrome, (even more outdated if you use Debian Stable repos), rather than a continually updated Chrome?"	Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__	"Why not just use Firefox or something lighter which you know to be free and boycott the very idea of Flash since it is insecure and used to deliver ever-more-invasive advertisements?"	Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__	"I choose Chrome on the basis it works for me. No guilt feelings. Fortunately my philosophy/religion holds that Compromise is inevitable. I also watch a little YouTube, but I use DuckDuckGo as my Search Engine to avoid being tracked, so far avoided potentially spying friendly smartphones and try to keep below the Man's radar. Doubtless I frequently fail, but much much less so than the Fcbook generation who may some day regret	Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	giving up their freedom so cheaply."	Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	"Unfortunately, all of our friends insist on being on Facebook regardless of our constant calls to use Diaspora and/or rely on e-mail alone. They're incredibly hard-headed about giving up a service which does nothing good for them."	Dec 08 08:44
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268916	Dec 08 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #mono theism: the misguided false belief that #windows APIs will somehow be compatible with #gnu #linux http://www.gamedev.net/topic/663511-bmfont-on-linux-a-possibility/		Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	"Use WINE?"	Dec 08 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamedev.net \| BMFont on Linux. A possibility? - AngelCode - GameDev.net [ http://ur1.ca/j1q92 ]		Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	Wine is for users rather than developers	Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268413	Dec 08 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prisoners learning how to code with Linux http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/prisoners-learning-how-to-code-with-linux/ #gnu #linux #education		Dec 08 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Prisoners learning how to code with Linux [ http://ur1.ca/j1q9e ]		Dec 08 08:45
schestowitz__	"certainly a great way to lose weeks ;)"	Dec 08 08:45
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 08:46
schestowitz__	"Requested Range Not Satisfiable"	Dec 08 08:46
schestowitz__	That's a new error for me. Never seen that in my life.	Dec 08 08:46
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 08:46
schestowitz__	Works from here	Dec 08 08:46
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268969	Dec 08 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Saying that #EricGarner sold cigs similar to saying #drone victims were engaging in "suspicious activity"; health problems="imminent threat"		Dec 08 08:50
schestowitz__	"Wow, being killed for selling cigarettes is fine? That sounds so Nazi."	Dec 08 08:50
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5269008	Dec 08 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. #Rockefeller 's shameful attempt to kill #FOIA reform? https://freedom.press/blog/2014/12/why-arent-more-news-outlets-covering-sen-rockefellers-shameful-attempt-kill-foia-reform		Dec 08 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freedom.press \| Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. Rockefeller's shameful attempt to kill FOIA reform? \| Freedom of the Press Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/j1qc3 ]		Dec 08 08:51
schestowitz__	"Do you really need to ask? We both know that the media is bought and owned by the people who would benefit from these reforms."	Dec 08 08:51
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	I got your email address from a friend.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	You are probably aware of what is going on at the EPO.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	I attach a demo poster/flyer for tomorrows solidarity demos in The Hague and Munich, for your convenience.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	I further attach a publication (by an unknown group of authors) illustrating the worksphere within the Office. Enjoy the reading.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	The background is that two colleagues currently face disciplinary measures for their activity as members of the Internal Appeals Committee,	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	although persons carrying out such duties are protected against such measures.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	It is simply another example of an abuse of power of EPO president Bemoît Battistelli.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	Please do not hesitate to contact me if you want to get more information.	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	Best regards, an epo insider	Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 09:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines and Prisoners on GNU/Linux \| Techrights		Dec 08 10:27
schestowitz__	> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949	Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__	>	Dec 08 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk \| Microsoft Calls Its Time On The Nook Tablet [ http://ur1.ca/j1rdn ]		Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__	> I think you saw this already.	Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__	I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.	Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__	> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https://twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832	Dec 08 10:46
schestowitz__	> I think you saw this already.	Dec 08 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https:/twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832 )		Dec 08 10:46
schestowitz__	I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.	Dec 08 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/ZE3Vg4YQgY	Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1rhr	Dec 08 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Weekend in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your	Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	tech questions answered http://t.co/NwQNLaB277	Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theguardian.com)	Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1rhs	Dec 08 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered \| Technology \| The Guardian		Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/sXPuTYQlNl	Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1rhv	Dec 08 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your	Dec 08 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	tech questions answered http://t.co/8OeS6LNb6d	Dec 08 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1uy7	Dec 08 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the	Dec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More	Dec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6y8DvgDI1m (www.linux.com)	Dec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1uze	Dec 08 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More \| Linux.com		Dec 08 17:05
*TweetTuxMachines @BeerReddit favourited 'Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life...'		Dec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hHgVw1vrvU (dot.kde.org)	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v25	Dec 08 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success \| KDE.news		Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker: Here, take the wheel – now YOU can run	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	your own containers http://t.co/0eJqneFR03	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Dec 08 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Docker: Here, take the wheel – now YOU can run your own containers • The Register		Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v26	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IDrOvKXc5A (opensource.com)	Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v27	Dec 08 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Review: Raspberry Pi A+ \| Opensource.com		Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ly8tgz0XkC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v7f	Dec 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cJ8wIHyRNg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v7h	Dec 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ywg5snlGcZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v7i	Dec 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+ \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:31
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268413	Dec 08 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prisoners learning how to code with Linux http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/prisoners-learning-how-to-code-with-linux/ #gnu #linux #education		Dec 08 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Prisoners learning how to code with Linux [ http://ur1.ca/j1q9e ]		Dec 08 17:42
schestowitz_bed2	\|Huh. Works in Rekonq. What's that all about?\|	Dec 08 17:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Cockpit Management Console In Fedora 21	Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	Makes Linux Administration Easy	Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3NSx7ILgaA (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1vex	Dec 08 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] The Cockpit Management Console In Fedora 21 Makes Linux Administration Easy		Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Founder Must Right His Ship	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6sU7lOVwsv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1vf1	Dec 08 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Docker Founder Must Right His Ship \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SK Telecom develops open-source oneM2M IoT	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	platform http://t.co/1PlJ7OT3II	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1vfc	Dec 08 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SK Telecom develops open-source oneM2M IoT platform \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:59
MinceR	> one sec researcher made a funny cabaret speech on sec industry. loving his quote "why one needs jailbars if one can be in the cloud?" lol	Dec 08 18:13
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5267125	Dec 08 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the Chinese economy halted production tomorrow, would anyone notice? How about US halt? Therein lies the answer about economic dominance.		Dec 08 18:36
schestowitz_bed2	"Sure, but since are US-branded most of the earnings go to the US and that's not the idea in a boycott, I meant neither US-manufactured nor US-branded. I'm pretty sure Chinese make toothpaste and toothbrushes since I bought that in Japan, but here in Banana Republic I cannot find them."	Dec 08 18:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Channel 4 chose open-source MuleSoft over	Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	'prohibitively expensive' Oracle and Microsoft	Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9vSdCalORH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y1s	Dec 08 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why Channel 4 chose open-source MuleSoft over 'prohibitively expensive' Oracle and Microsoft \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LiveUSB-Creator Is Ready For Fedora 21	Dec 08 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JAbgR6Op7V (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y1t	Dec 08 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LiveUSB-Creator Is Ready For Fedora 21 \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mobile-Desktop Convergence	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/EYSbjbqLXg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y89	Dec 08 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mobile-Desktop Convergence \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Errplane Snags $8.1M To Continue Building Open	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	Source InfluxDB Time Series Database	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hKBD0NegGP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y8b	Dec 08 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Errplane Snags $8.1M To Continue Building Open Source InfluxDB Time Series Database \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 23:03
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ozzzzy	Hello!	Dec 09 11:36
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schestowitz	"thanks to the brilliance of Steve Jobs"	Dec 09 12:15
schestowitz	LOL	Dec 09 12:15
schestowitz	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2473027,00.asp	Dec 09 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcmag.com \| Apple's Trillion-Dollar Dilemma \| Tim Bajarin \| PCMag.com		Dec 09 12:15
schestowitz	"what is the main difference between software engineering and software development? I'm just going to study at university (bachelor's degree), but i don't know the difference."	Dec 09 12:23
schestowitz	"and which degree do i need to work as a developer? computer science may be?"	Dec 09 12:23
schestowitz	"(sorry for my english, i'm not a native speaker)"	Dec 09 12:24
schestowitz	"I've already some skills in software development...'	Dec 09 12:24
schestowitz	Usually, software engineering and software development are the same. Computer engineering is the odd one (hardware).	Dec 09 12:24
msb_	cubexyz: I've got skype running again on my old Suse 11.4 machine, using the pulseaudio emulator for alsa apulse: https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse	Dec 09 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com \| i-rinat/apulse · GitHub		Dec 09 12:26
msb_	Anybody want to call me, my skype ID is markbilk	Dec 09 12:27
MinceR	software engineering is supposed to be software development with forethought and competence	Dec 09 12:36
MinceR	but those are usually missing regardless of name	Dec 09 12:36
MinceR	not going to install skype	Dec 09 12:36
msb_	Soon after Microshit swallowed skype, it changed skype for Linux to require pulseaudio, which is written by Lennart Poettering, the infamous author of systemd.	Dec 09 12:37
schestowitz	msb_:skype?!	Dec 09 12:38
msb_	schestowitz: yes	Dec 09 12:38
MinceR	so from shitty it went to uber-shitty	Dec 09 12:38
msb_	well, it usually works pretty well.	Dec 09 12:38
MinceR	yeah, that's what the m$ crowd says all the time	Dec 09 12:39
MinceR	and since m$ crap is forced on me routinely, i can see how "well" it works	Dec 09 12:39
MinceR	(like a train wreck.)	Dec 09 12:39
msb_	But my point is that two operations to sabotage Linux -- skype/pulseaudio and systemd -- are connected.	Dec 09 12:40
MinceR	for example, the letter "C" in CSV (which stands for Comma Separated Values) didn't tip off the drooling idiots in redmond that comma, not semicolon, is supposed to be the field separator in a CSV file.	Dec 09 12:40
MinceR	could well be.	Dec 09 12:40
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msb_	I wonder if there's also a connection with KDE4, which more or less kills multiple virtual desktops.	Dec 09 12:41
MinceR	i don't even know anymore	Dec 09 12:42
MinceR	in any case, it takes more than just poettering to fuck everything up	Dec 09 12:42
MinceR	it requires a mass of idiotic followers	Dec 09 12:42
MinceR	who force his shit to be adopted almost everywhere	Dec 09 12:42
msb_	YES!	Dec 09 12:42
msb_	But there are several groups working on substitutes for systemd so we can be free of it.	Dec 09 12:44
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msb_	And apulse to substitute for pulseaudio.	Dec 09 12:45
MinceR	and we already have sysvinit and alsa	Dec 09 12:45
msb_	And Trinity Desktop (clone of KDE3) to substitute for KDE4.	Dec 09 12:45
MinceR	and XFCE, and a lot of standalone window managers	Dec 09 12:46
*amarsh04 doesn't like how both brassero and k3b in Debian depend indirectly on systemd		Dec 09 12:46
msb_	The problem now with sysvinit is that a lot of apps are being warped to depend on systemd facilities.	Dec 09 12:46
amarsh04	at least there are other cd burning packages	Dec 09 12:46
amarsh04	and hplip for that matter, although I can use my printer fine without hplip and just cups-related packages	Dec 09 12:47
MinceR	those apps may have to be discarded, then	Dec 09 12:48
amarsh04	that's what I did with my other pc (running kde 4.x)	Dec 09 12:48
amarsh04	this machine still running kde 3.5 can still use the ancient k3b	Dec 09 12:49
amarsh04	the incidental breakage with no alternative solutions isn't helpful	Dec 09 12:50
amarsh04	e.g. recent versions of udev don't recognise the mass storage device mode of my nokia handset	Dec 09 12:50
MinceR	indeed	Dec 09 12:50
amarsh04	so I'm holding back udev	Dec 09 12:50
amarsh04	if I was running systemd, I wouldn't have the luxury of using a version of udev that ancient	Dec 09 12:51
msb_	amarsh04: A. I don't think the breakage is incidental -- it's sabotage of Linux. B. alternative solutions are the various shims that allow systemd-warped apps to run on sysvinit systems.	Dec 09 12:53
amarsh04	the shims that aren't maintained	Dec 09 12:53
msb_	Eventually people will settle on one or two of them and they will be maintained.	Dec 09 12:54
MinceR	the shims retain some or all of the overhead and braindead design	Dec 09 12:56
msb_	But they are under control of people, not psychopaths.	Dec 09 12:57
msb_	And once that gets going, some of the more important apps can be reverted.	Dec 09 12:58
amarsh04	I like having alternative ways of doing things and still have the alternatives available by the package system such as in Debian	Dec 09 12:58
MinceR	debian has already committed to breaking your system if you don't use systemd	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	" “Microsoft loves Linux,” said Bob Kelly, Corporate Vice President at Microsoft"	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	Sounds like Microsofts pays nicely for a few weeks of having Ubuntu Core exclusively.	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	Also not the first time MS is having affair with Linux. See their Suse partnership.	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	"The creed of the Amoeba: embrace, engulf, and digest."	Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5274985	Dec 09 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #canonical still sleeps with a predator http://siliconangle.com/blog/2014/12/09/canonical-restructures-ubuntu-in-mobile-mode-enlists-microsoft-as-first-partner/ #ubuntu #gnu #linux		Dec 09 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> siliconangle.com \| Canonical restructures Ubuntu in mobile mode; Microsoft is first partner \| SiliconANGLE		Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz	Shuttleworth looks for short-term rewards	Dec 09 13:00
schestowitz	"Oh, thank you)) i was looking for the information on internet, but wasn't sure exactly which degree i do need."	Dec 09 13:00
schestowitz	-anon	Dec 09 13:00
msb_	Some people are focusing on getting rid of systemd in Debian -- http://www.freelists.org/list/modular-debian is a great mailing-list. Totally anti-systemd, lots of interesting ideas.	Dec 09 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freelists.org \| FreeLists / Toward a more modular Debian OS		Dec 09 13:02
MinceR	we've got Devuan going	Dec 09 13:06
MinceR	then debian can burn with their systemd, gnome and mono	Dec 09 13:06
msb_	Wiki wants to delete the article about Devuan. They say it's not real yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devuan	Dec 09 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Devuan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Dec 09 13:09
MinceR	well, it's wikipedia	Dec 09 13:09
MinceR	they live off deleting things	Dec 09 13:09
MinceR	it's the force that keeps them alive	Dec 09 13:10
MinceR	they should have called themselves MemoryHole	Dec 09 13:10
msb_	ok, here's a Halloween-colored website for it: https://www.devuan.org/	Dec 09 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devuan.org \| Devuan - the GNU/Linux by Veteran Unix Admins.		Dec 09 13:12
MinceR	:)	Dec 09 13:13
msb_	wikipedia calls all the govt undercover attacks "conspiracy theories".	Dec 09 13:13
msb_	totally fascist-infiltrated	Dec 09 13:14
msb_	But this site is excellent: http://globalresearch.ca/	Dec 09 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalresearch.ca \| Global Research		Dec 09 13:15
msb_	Free widespread broadcast communication is the key to honesty prevailing over psychopathy. And the Net gives us that.	Dec 09 13:21
msb_	Maybe the Singularity has already begun!	Dec 09 13:21
msb_	Honesty and creativity!	Dec 09 13:23
msb_	MinceR: Are you working with Devuan?	Dec 09 13:27
MinceR	i'm lurking there	Dec 09 13:27
msb_	Check that mailing-list too.	Dec 09 13:27
MinceR	i occasionally do	Dec 09 13:28
msb_	That's where I heard about apulse.	Dec 09 13:28
MinceR	:)	Dec 09 13:30
msb_	Oops, I lied. I got that from the trinity-users list.	Dec 09 13:32
msb_	They are also anti-systemd.	Dec 09 13:33
msb_	Overhead isn't very important, since we're all running supercomputers!	Dec 09 13:35
msb_	(I started with an original IBM-PC.)	Dec 09 13:35
msb_	Braindeadness is, but with clever design it can be restricted to small areas of code.	Dec 09 13:37
msb_	(talking about systemd-substitute shims here)	Dec 09 13:38
amarsh04	when I installed Debian the machine had 48 meg of RAM and a cyrix 166 MHz cpu (still a bit more than 16 Meg of RAM and a 486DX33 in 1993 to run what was then Novell Unixware)	Dec 09 13:44
MinceR	nowadays even the installer wouldn't run on that, would it?	Dec 09 13:45
amarsh04	probably not	Dec 09 13:45
amarsh04	current cpu on this machine is AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ with 1024 Megabytes of RAM	Dec 09 13:45
amarsh04	brb, restarting desktop	Dec 09 13:46
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msb_	amarsh04: are you back?	Dec 09 14:20
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 14:29
schestowitz	Hello Roy,	Dec 09 14:29
schestowitz	Not sure whether this is interesting for you:	Dec 09 14:29
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 14:29
schestowitz	Major new leak	Dec 09 14:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/542363086884470785	Dec 09 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz Thrown out of a plane maybe; they installed and loved Videla....		Dec 09 17:03
schestowitz	Fell out rather ;-)	Dec 09 17:03
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sebsebseb	hi	Dec 09 18:20
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amarsh04	I'm here msb_	Dec 09 20:57
msb_	amarsh04: Hi!	Dec 09 20:57
msb_	I was just going to say that I think my cpu is the same as yours. Two cores?	Dec 09 20:58
amarsh04	I think this one is single core	Dec 09 21:00
msb_	Run the lscpu command.	Dec 09 21:01
msb_	I've just gotten mine to display x265/HEVC 720p videos, but it saturates both cores.	Dec 09 21:06
msb_	Needed the latest version of mplayer plus some tuning.	Dec 09 21:07
amarsh04	single cpu	Dec 09 21:08
msb_	I wonder if the single and dual core have the same pinout.	Dec 09 21:09
amarsh04	probably	Dec 09 21:09
msb_	Maybe you could double your power by buying a new one.	Dec 09 21:10
amarsh04	yes, but I'll be replacing the motherboard anyway	Dec 09 21:10
msb_	http://www.pricewatch.com/search?q=amd+athlon+x2+desktop&gallery=1&sortby=price&condition=new&discounted=2	Dec 09 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pricewatch.com \| PriceWatch - Lowest prices, local and nationwide stores selling amd athlon x2 desktop \| Page 1 [ http://ur1.ca/j2evt ]		Dec 09 21:15
msb_	Looks like the 2-core is less than $20 shipped.	Dec 09 21:15
msb_	mplayer definitely uses both cores. I don't know if the second one is needed for anything else.	Dec 09 21:19
msb_	Maybe locatedb -- I don't remember.	Dec 09 21:21
msb_	x265/HEVC videos are about half the size of x264 for the same resolution/quality.	Dec 09 21:28
msb_	Save a lot of disk space.	Dec 09 21:29
amarsh04	I build mplayer from source regularly, and use my 4 core machine to play videos	Dec 09 21:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz don´t worry the fringe Far Left in LatAm hates McDonalds more than imperialism		Dec 10 02:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux	Dec 10 03:20
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/542525905579438081	Dec 10 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @DafnaLinzer @schestowitz @danapriest @JulieATate Thank You. Thank You. & some links to the story, please!		Dec 10 03:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542523437269282818 https://twitter.com/TheDailyEdge/status/542484791124164608 https://twitter.com/WeMeantWell/status/542492326669475840 https://twitter.com/DafnaLinzer/status/542505853085941762	Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Said this years ago: torture good as 1) punishment; 2) deterrence? Not good for: true confessions (under force). Also good for: #blowback		Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheDailyEdge: If torture keeps us safe from terror, how come ISIS is waterboarding Americans? #TortureReport http://t.co/pjSo39lsyb		Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnn.com \| Report: ISIS waterboarded captives - CNN.com		Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WeMeantWell: So now that torture is wrong and all, the US is offering compensation to its victims? I missed that part of the story right? #TortureReport		Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DafnaLinzer: As you read the #TortureReport, consider sending a "thank you" to @danapriest and @JulieATate for revealing existence of black sites in '05		Dec 10 03:55
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542522148527423488 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542521981548363776 https://twitter.com/lydiadepillis/status/542518100709474305	Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How not to make friends: "chronic hemorrhoids, an anal fissure, and symptomatic rectal prolapse." http://t.co/9DHwx8DdNm		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedailybeast.com \| Inside the CIA’s Sadistic Dungeon - The Daily Beast		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #torture programme of #bush and #cheney helped keep sadists off the streets, in some island with "brown" targets http://t.co/3DBAQdyKgz		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lydiadepillis: The more I read of the #torturereport, the less I can distinguish between us and the people executing journos lately http://t.co/EsQcuugXGx		Dec 10 03:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/ron_fournier/status/542519318077251584 https://twitter.com/regibaby67/status/542519355590729728 https://twitter.com/Patbagley/status/542514826652557315	Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ron_fournier: Once more on the #TortureReport: What nobody should excuse, justify, or forgive are the lies. Their stink will haunt US leaders for years		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@regibaby67: Torture and illegal surveillance coincided during Bush years, under the pretense of keeping Americans safe. Feel safer now? #TortureReport		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Patbagley: Wonder why Dick Cheney doesn't travel? Some countries still prosecute war criminals #Cheney #torture #TortureReport http://t.co/x2ChxdGGRU		Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Patbagley: Wonder why Dick Cheney doesn't travel? Some countries still prosecute war criminals #Cheney #torture #TortureReport http://t.co/x2ChxdGGRU		Dec 10 03:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/AnthonyLawlor/status/542519364897878016	Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnthonyLawlor: Jack Bauer approach to interrogation reveals sadistic shadow side of the American psyche. #TortureReport		Dec 10 03:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542507703772254208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504779801309184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504435839029249 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504049015144448	Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Free Software has made great strides in all kinds of areas and improved our lives." http://t.co/WgZYUSJxlb		Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.lydiapintscher.de \| life at the end of the universe » Keeping our eyes on the big picture – High Priority Projects		Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If age argument ("it's old news","doesn't matter anymore") helps pardon criminals, then Senate needs to launch $40m report into #drones NOW		Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 10 years from now: #DroneReport about how White House and Pentagon lied about the value and extent of #assassination & covered up civilians?		Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The right wing justifies #torture in the name of some "higher" (exceptional) goal like "fighting terror" while labeling #wikileaks "terror"		Dec 10 03:58
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542503664288428032 https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/542477772577603587 https://twitter.com/ozchrisrock/status/542493183720947712 https://twitter.com/ArarMaher/status/542494404397641728 https://twitter.com/HinaShamsi/status/542496811265425409	Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nypd didn't murder #ericGarner - it was just "simulating drowning". The detainee was in bad health... so it's "fair play". #ICantBreathe		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: Bush promised there was no torture happening in our name. Well, he lied. #TortureReport http://t.co/iQMlL6N7um		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: Bush promised there was no torture happening in our name. Well, he lied. #TortureReport http://t.co/iQMlL6N7um		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: I read a little bit of the torture report and, well, the first problem is that we're a country that has torture reports. #TortureReport		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArarMaher: What #TortureReport doesn't mention (bc it's not part of mandate) is that countless other suspects were sent 2 other countries 4 processing.		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HinaShamsi: Illuminating @washingtonpost graphic on then CIA-director Hayden's lies to Congress as revealed in #TortureReport http://t.co/HjaQwXstuU		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com \| Hayden’s testimony vs. the Senate report - Washington Post		Dec 10 03:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542500750270529536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542500468715290624 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542499665376055296 https://twitter.com/blogdiva/status/542498259407609856	Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Maybe "they hate us" because of imperialism. Maybe it's not "because we have McDonalds" but because we stuff things up their rectum. [2/2]		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: December 9th: the day that many brainwashed TV viewers (Fox, CNN, NBC etc.) realised why "they hate us", to quote Bush. [1/2]		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Droning to death versus torturing to death http://t.co/JSnpkp3rVV		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedailybeast.com \| The Bush Administration Homicides - The Daily Beast		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blogdiva: DAMN... RT @BenjaminNorton: Yet another brilliant cartoon by @LatuffCartoons CIA #TortureReport http://t.co/MurKPNZ8Dk		Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LatuffCartoons: Please, RT! U.S. Senate report on @CIA torture, via @operamundi #TortureReport http://t.co/zXYegIHaFq		Dec 10 03:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/542497289793581056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542499159186489344 https://twitter.com/jimasher/status/542498330782089216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496987166162944 https://twitter.com/HaroldItz/status/542476254407294976	Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: #EricGarner sold a loose cigarette and was killed. George Bush tortured people and got a library. #TortureReport http://t.co/HpNaI4ptm1		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: #EricGarner sold a loose cigarette and was killed. George Bush tortured people and got a library. #TortureReport http://t.co/HpNaI4ptm1		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cnn has reckless 'reporting' which consistently lays blame for "terror" threat on the messengers rather than the torturers. #propaganda		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jimasher: McClatchy reveals that Congress has no stomach for pursuing crimes detailed in CIA #torturereport. http://t.co/uKCL7GmQLY		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mcclatchydc.com \| National news from McClatchy DC News \| Washington DC		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM Power8 support http://t.co/hxlJPpelXP #suse #ibm #mariadb #database		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theinquirer.net \| MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM Power8 support- The Inquirer		Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HaroldItz: Cheney reads #TortureReport, smiles, and happily sighs, "Ah, memories!"		Dec 10 04:00
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496833126150144 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496565525348355 https://twitter.com/missyasin/status/542474449279516672 https://twitter.com/ozchrisrock/status/542474311387586561	Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #torture in West often done by proxy, e.g. enabling Mubarak, Assad etc. to torture their own citizens or flying people abroad for torture		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Western world can only claim that #torture is evil & inhumane as long as it's able to pretend or deny that it's not doing it (or rename it)		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@missyasin: Collaborated w/ @simkhosla for piece showing how #TortureReport is part of global problem http://t.co/zhkDp4an9e http://t.co/aww4pYWfry		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalpost.com \| This graphic shows that torture is a global problem \| GlobalPost		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@missyasin: Collaborated w/ @simkhosla for piece showing how #TortureReport is part of global problem http://t.co/zhkDp4an9e http://t.co/aww4pYWfry		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: #FoxNews declared torture humane today. Good night everybody! #TortureReport http://t.co/RRysHjH42k		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: #FoxNews declared torture humane today. Good night everybody! #TortureReport http://t.co/RRysHjH42k		Dec 10 04:01
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495949881229313 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495894046666752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495733643890688	Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Dissent against #torture -> jail https://t.co/6c5iTBCzeI		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: From now on every attack on US folks abroad will be (or can be) blamed on those who shine light on #torture - reversing cause and effect		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Rectal Feeding," Threats to Children, and More: 16 Awful Abuses From the CIA Torture Report http://t.co/DTREfqRg24 #cia #torture		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| "Rectal Feeding," Threats to Children, and More: 16 Awful Abuses From the CIA Torture Report \| Mother Jones		Dec 10 04:01
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/adrianshort/status/542463764126105600 https://twitter.com/kgosztola/status/542464503997153281 https://twitter.com/snowwhite44/status/542463303482474496	Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@adrianshort: Torture is just fine for the sort of people who feel oppressed by socialised healthcare. #TortureReport		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kgosztola: CIA chief had inspector general office reviewed cause of "bias" against torture & CIA "morale issues" #TortureReport http://t.co/P0tmi2vH8J		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kgosztola: CIA chief had inspector general office reviewed cause of "bias" against torture & CIA "morale issues" #TortureReport http://t.co/P0tmi2vH8J		Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@snowwhite44: How can anyone reading the #TortureReport and watching police brutality in our towns cannot see that we are morally bankrupt ? #shutitdown		Dec 10 04:01
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DaemonFC	I'm on my Chromebook. An Acer BIOS update killed my Acer motherboard.	Dec 10 06:24
DaemonFC	Now I'm trying to rebuild it with standard parts, salvaging as much as possible along the way.	Dec 10 06:25
DaemonFC	Turns out that the motherboard was proprietary, and so was the power supply, and they're using a laptop DVD-RW drive along with a custom PCMCIA port for wireless and bluetooth, and the two front USB 2.0 ports are using a 19/20 pin USB 3.0 cable that they put a cap on and plugged into some exposed pins on their motherboard.	Dec 10 06:26
DaemonFC	So along the way, I picked up a couple of adapter cables. They're so odd that I had to order them from China.	Dec 10 06:27
DaemonFC	One is a SATA power to micro slimline SATA power adapter, and the other is intended to let you plug in USB 3.0 front ports into a USB 2.0 9 pin header.	Dec 10 06:27
DaemonFC	And I'm just sort of hoping that one works.	Dec 10 06:27
DaemonFC	The buttplugs at Acer didn't bother to make any sort of emergency recover procedure for a bad BIOS flash. The $45 board I ordered has dual BIOS, which will boot off of a backup copy if the flash went wrong.	Dec 10 06:28
DaemonFC	I feel like the people on Apollo 13, trying to make a CO2 scrubber with duct tape and tube socks.	Dec 10 06:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Happy Fedora Day http://t.co/0iiUEksLdo	Dec 10 07:34
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5273580	Dec 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Piles of leaked documents about the #epo has #techrights dependent on caffeine and late night work again. Like #Comes vs #Microsoft days.		Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	"It's late here now, I'll have a look at it in the morning."	Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278966	Dec 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rugged, fanless box-PC runs #Linux on #Haswell http://linuxgizmos.com/rugged-fanless-box-pc-runs-linux-on-intel-haswell/		Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	"Oooh, fanless. Like an Apple II."	Dec 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Rugged, fanless box-PC runs Linux on Haswell · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/j2qz7 ]		Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	The only fans it has: people with no brains	Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5276813	Dec 10 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Threatening to kill your family members is psychological #torture practiced by #cia and it can be more agonising than physical torture		Dec 10 11:32
schestowitz__	"I imagine many of these threats were genuine. Without real trials, we can't be sure."	Dec 10 11:32
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5275192	Dec 10 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Users Need 27 Services to Get Most Popular Films, Report Finds http://torrentfreak.com/uk-users-need-27-services-to-get-most-popular-films-report-finds-141208/ distribution and availability issue		Dec 10 11:33
schestowitz__	"I use cclive most of the time and have built a very interesting library over the last few years."	Dec 10 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> torrentfreak.com \| UK Users Need 27 Services to Get Most Popular Films, Report Finds \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/j2i3p ]		Dec 10 11:33
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5273566	Dec 10 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Last check of logs (past filtering/DDOS defences) suggests that #ddos against #tuxmachines now ineffective, problem largely solved		Dec 10 11:37
schestowitz__	"It's interesting that the attackers would run out of bots and that the traffic would not overwhelm you anyway."	Dec 10 11:37
schestowitz__	"I like 'pure'. Android is crippled when compared to traditional distros."	Dec 10 11:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278981	Dec 10 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices http://www.itworld.com/article/2856604/with-unity-8-ubuntu-will-bring-pure-linux-experience-to-mobile-devices.html #ubuntu #linux #unity		Dec 10 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com \| With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/j2r26 ]		Dec 10 11:41
MinceR	https://narf-archive.com/pix/f0e9c8ec5c03a413b7fad876d2bcf6e987cfea1a.jpeg	Dec 10 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://narf-archive.com/pix/f0e9c8ec5c03a413b7fad876d2bcf6e987cfea1a.jpeg )		Dec 10 13:21
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msb_	Maybe "they hate us" because they know the US did 9/11, blamed it on them, and used it as an excuse to murder 2,000,000 of them. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911	Dec 10 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Dec 10 16:15
msb_	schestowitz__: Please see North Tower Exploding by David Chandler item at above address. Does that convince you?	Dec 10 16:16
msb_	The other 3 videos are excellent also.	Dec 10 16:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/542647473131380736	Dec 10 16:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz Torture is why many terrorists became terrorists in the first place.		Dec 10 16:47
schestowitz__	msb_: it didn't explode	Dec 10 16:48
msb_	schestowitz__: Did you read the part about the flying girders and F=ma?	Dec 10 16:49
MinceR	http://daggle.com/closed-unfriendly-world-wikipedia-2853	Dec 10 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daggle.com \| The Closed, Unfriendly World Of Wikipedia		Dec 10 16:50
schestowitz__	http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/whats-wrong-with-chromeosbook-a-general-musing/	Dec 10 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openbytes.wordpress.com \| What’s wrong with ChromeOS/book & a general musing on silly people \| OpenBytes - Goblin's Domain [ http://ur1.ca/j2twg ]		Dec 10 16:59
schestowitz__	"Contractual obligations have me drawn away from OpenBytes, its a shame because my time doesn’t even seem to have the opportunity for many 140 character one liners on Twitter. G+ seems to me like the social media that everyone knows about and didn’t want. Its funny because I’ve noticed that it seems to get more activity when linking articles on other social media rather than conversations created by a musing on G+ itself.	Dec 10 16:59
schestowitz__	Maybe G+ has the charm of being an outlet for people who want to comment on an article and feel more comfortable doing it on their own ground (as in their own G+ page)"	Dec 10 16:59
msb_	http://drsircus.com/world-news/psychopaths-rule-our-world-medicine-politics-and-war	Dec 10 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drsircus.com \| Psychopaths Rule Our World – Medicine, Politics and War [ http://ur1.ca/j2twl ]		Dec 10 16:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Empire: Total War Gold Edition Released for	Dec 10 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, Video Available	Dec 10 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gCHN7psUwA (www.gamershell.com)	Dec 10 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u03	Dec 10 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamershell.com \| News: Empire: Total War Gold Edition Released for Linux, Video Available		Dec 10 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 [development] Already Begun	Dec 10 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LfCyAzYixX (ostatic.com)	Dec 10 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u07	Dec 10 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun		Dec 10 17:12
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/542726696550813696	Dec 10 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz: Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution https://t.co/kLsIqLQ6QJ #eu #europe		Dec 10 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu \| Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution \| Joinup		Dec 10 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bgUoyz9XGF (www.mylinuxrig.com)	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3t	Dec 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com \| The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist - My Linux Rig		Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	awesome performance! http://t.co/YCodmMbFuh	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	(mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk \| Linuxed - Exploring Linux distros: Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply awesome performance!		Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3u	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best KDE distro of 2014 http://t.co/amVFo0CsbQ	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	(netrunner-mag.com)	Dec 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netrunner-mag.com \| Netrunner MAG \| Best KDE distro of 2014		Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3w	Dec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snappy Ubuntu challenges CoreOS and Project	Dec 10 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	Atomic on lightweight cloud servers	Dec 10 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QduxsKGgbE (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 10 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3x	Dec 10 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Snappy Ubuntu challenges CoreOS and Project Atomic on lightweight cloud servers \| ZDNet		Dec 10 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	instead of solution http://t.co/gWzCljv8Fa	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ufb	Dec 10 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/z7j0ogUrAz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ufc	Dec 10 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 10/12/2014: Fedora 21, Ubuntu Core	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SKENC9tBjz (techrights.org)	Dec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ufl	Dec 10 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 10/12/2014: Fedora 21, Ubuntu Core \| Techrights		Dec 10 18:05
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/12/connections-between-phones-and-smartwatches-wide-open-to-brute-force-hacks/	Dec 10 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Data sent between phones and smartwatches wide open to hackers \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/j2ukm ]		Dec 10 18:25
Sosumi	smartwatches are the new 3dtvs	Dec 10 18:25
Sosumi	just a fad	Dec 10 18:25
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278824	Dec 10 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: From now on every attack on US folks abroad will be (or can be) blamed on those who shine light on #torture - reversing cause and effect		Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__	"	Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__	US people can keep their head deep in the sand if that makes them happy, in my country people believes that they cannot be blamed at all about drug cartels for the same reason.	Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__	That is not going to solve anything but makes people feel better.	Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__	"	Dec 10 18:57
msb_	schestowitz__: Roy, it's a shame that you, who are so intelligent, and have done so much for humanity, avoid the F=ma proof regarding 9-11 by resorting to a nonsensical quibble about the meaning of a word, and totally ignoring the proof.	Dec 10 19:01
msb_	schestowitz__: As shown by the videos I link to, the govt investigation of 9-11 reeks of coverup, as did the Warren Commission investigation of the JFK assassination, Years later, another govt investigation concluded that JFK was murdered by a conspiracy. This is even mentioned in wikipedia. More than 2,000,000 people have been murdered, and several nations virtually destroyed, by the US and Israel using 9-11 as the pretext. How	Dec 10 19:12
msb_	many more have to die before people like you stop avoiding the evidence?	Dec 10 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/SwnSv7NXh9	Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2v5j	Dec 10 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best KDE distro of 2014 http://t.co/3RD4R3tXNg	Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2v5l	Dec 10 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best KDE distro of 2014 \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YcgBxZJ5GB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc2	Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	awesome performance! http://t.co/yTwOPsxFd3	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc3	Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply awesome performance! \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5bJrOQPGus (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc4	Dec 10 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014 \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem	Dec 10 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Kozqd0yQnN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc6	Dec 10 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 19:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla and Telenor Announce WebRTC Competency	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	Center to Advance WebRTC and Help	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	Standardization http://t.co/9aTc2TDvH4	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vid	Dec 10 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla and Telenor Announce WebRTC Competency Center to Advance WebRTC and Help Standardization \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cU8vqZfCxp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Distros: What’s in a Name?	Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zlmHDTHYkM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Distros: What’s in a Name? \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source for sensitive email	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2Uk0ZLPiRd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vxh	Dec 10 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source for sensitive email \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Developer Experimenting With Firefox UI	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	In HTML http://t.co/ddIyyqioKh	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vxj	Dec 10 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla Developer Experimenting With Firefox UI In HTML \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LhD97xUrxf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vxl	Dec 10 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18 \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35 Beta Arrives with Conference Call	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	Features for Hello http://t.co/F9obsIUyAf	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2wls	Dec 10 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Firefox 35 Beta Arrives with Conference Call Features for Hello \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ctqcXr2hkx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2wlt	Dec 10 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/T8taJI4iDl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2wlv	Dec 10 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	Embedded Devices Already http://t.co/tlREGlQrOW	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yb9	Dec 11 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for Embedded Devices Already \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	32-Bit Linux http://t.co/zDk4ItC6iH	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybb	Dec 11 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support 32-Bit Linux \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Empire: Total War has officially launched on	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	Steam for Linux gamers." http://t.co/KN7GaZJWbX	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/53xUdKSF3h	Dec 11 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Empire Total War Launches For Linux Gamers		Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Empire: Total War Shows Up in the Steam for Linux Library - Softpedia		Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybs	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1]	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YcrhLTfdxQ (www.webupd8.org)	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybu	Dec 11 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Archive Manager #PeaZip 5.5.1 Lands	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	with Many Fixes	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vb4VjuqL6D (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybv	Dec 11 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Open Source Archive Manager PeaZip 5.5.1 Lands with Many Fixes - Softpedia		Dec 11 01:25
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/oADAMo/status/542857024300523521	Dec 11 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oADAMo: @schestowitz Get a job trust fund baby!		Dec 11 01:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/542858861456007168	Dec 11 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (G. Orwell predicted it: Jounior Anti-Sex League)		Dec 11 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MinnowBoard MAX Unboxing and Booting of	Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen:Common http://t.co/flNPz5u9E0	Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 11 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Video] MinnowBoard MAX Unboxing and Booting of Tizen:Common - Tizen Experts		Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ypm	Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Things to Do After You Install Fedora 21	Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DiEKKK4eWg (www.linux.com)	Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ypn	Dec 11 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 11 Things to Do After You Install Fedora 21 \| Linux.com		Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 10 Semi-Autonomous Robots That Run Linux	Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	(With Slideshow) http://t.co/gyzFANjwbc	Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ypo	Dec 11 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Top 10 Semi-Autonomous Robots That Run Linux (With Slideshow) \| Linux.com		Dec 11 02:06
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/bitty31985/status/542862967138553856	Dec 11 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bitty31985: @schestowitz can you help by signing&Rt'ing so we can bring these sick #warcriminals to justice? http://t.co/3LVtYiFZxk #TortureReport		Dec 11 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> petitions.whitehouse.gov \| Arrest Dick Cheney and George W. Bush for crimes against Humanity \| We the People: Your Voice in Our Government		Dec 11 02:11
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542864353872314368	Dec 11 02:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz and how killing through drone strikes is perfectly humane		Dec 11 02:18
schestowitz__	That's portrayed in the media as always killing just terrorists; same with torture	Dec 11 02:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/illchangethis/status/542865651056906240	Dec 11 02:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@illchangethis: @schestowitz @pandymonium01 Another sign of how far right western politics has gone.Sigh!		Dec 11 02:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542866641038868480	Dec 11 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz but the question is clear. Is torture not ok while killing with drones is? It's a yes or no question		Dec 11 02:21
schestowitz__	I strongly oppose both and write thousands of times against drones...	Dec 11 02:22
cubexyz	there's nothing definite on Turla APT on Linux	Dec 11 02:25
cubexyz	there's cd00r.c which is a packet backdoor	Dec 11 02:26
cubexyz	nothing in the wild, so to speak	Dec 11 02:26
schestowitz__	is it a real threat?	Dec 11 02:26
schestowitz__	Or hyped up by Kaspersky?	Dec 11 02:26
schestowitz__	I could not find independent analyses?	Dec 11 02:26
cubexyz	there was something found at news-bbc.podzone.org	Dec 11 02:28
cubexyz	so kaspersky are saying to stay away from there	Dec 11 02:28
cubexyz	there's an md5 listed for the executable	Dec 11 02:29
cubexyz	just watch for oddball statically linked executables which don't belong :)	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5283695	Dec 11 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What is rather sickening yet endemic in Western media is that the #torture question is framed as a debate, as if pro-torture 'legitimate'		Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	The truth is treated as subjective. This is the problem with most news media.	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	I remember almost blowing a gasket when I heard on the radio "[Someone] says Sam Brownback lowered taxes last year, but others disagree."	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5283606	Dec 11 02:31
schestowitz__	"audacious is one of my favorite audio players since a while...'	Dec 11 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] http://www.webupd8.org/2014/12/audacious-switches-back-to-gtk2-adds.html #gtk #gtk3 #gtk2		Dec 11 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org \| Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/j2yxr ]		Dec 11 02:31
cubexyz	e.g. if you saw ./Tur.1 running... it's not likely though	Dec 11 02:31
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542867170796249090 https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542867495108247552	Dec 11 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz ok at least you're honest. But nobody seems to have any other suggestions as to how to obtain info from detainees.		Dec 11 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz when all other methods were attempted. Torture was NOT a first option		Dec 11 02:32
schestowitz__	Loaded question: assumes we need this info AND can extract it (if it exists)	Dec 11 02:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone	Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/anW0FkH38v (jimlynch.com)	Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yyl	Dec 11 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com \| Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone – Jim Lynch		Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Modular Smartphone Wants to Offer Ubuntu,	Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	SailfishOS http://t.co/glYsNgHthN	Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yym	Dec 11 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| New Modular Ara-like Phone Hopes to Offer Ubuntu, SailfishOS		Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A looking glass for GTK+ http://t.co/DZCWVuidLI	Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	(blogs.gnome.org)	Dec 11 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org \| A looking glass for GTK+ \| Goings on		Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yyn	Dec 11 02:34
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542870715071217665	Dec 11 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz WOW! We don't need this info to protect America from further terrorism? You can't be that stupid. Jesus buy a clue		Dec 11 02:38
schestowitz__	Jesus is a myth	Dec 11 02:38
schestowitz__	Just like your assumptions about intel' gathering.	Dec 11 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/S7rOuX3ATj (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z0n	Dec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem · LinuxGizmos.com		Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Distros: What’s in a Name?	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/13KurFae5L (fossforce.com)	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z0o	Dec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Linux Distros: What's in a Name? \| FOSS Force		Dec 11 02:39
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542871076297248768	Dec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz sticking your head in the sand about the threat on your life and the lives of your family is desperate liberalism		Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zFg1QMvyb3 (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z0p	Dec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison		Dec 11 02:39
schestowitz__	Securing the lives of "Americans" US abroad usually about occupying troops. Bring them back home.	Dec 11 02:40
schestowitz__	"Americans" (US)	Dec 11 02:40
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542871330178469888	Dec 11 02:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz Ok you are clearly crazy and if are truly a dr (which I can't believe) you shouldn't be. God speed idiot		Dec 11 02:41
schestowitz__	Insults fight... not my spiel. Bye. :-)	Dec 11 02:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Breaking down the Red Hat QA process	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TmYbuhhN5B (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	#security response: https://t.co/GHpdacxNZZ	Dec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Breaking down the Red Hat QA process \| ZDNet		Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	(securityblog.redhat.com)	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z2v	Dec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/12/10/analysis-of-the-cve-2013-6435-flaw-in-rpm/ )		Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines No release for the Tizen Samsung Z1 today, but	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	over $1.7m worth of SM-Z130H parts imported to	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	India http://t.co/LQb8HiPofW	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| No release for the Tizen Samsung Z1 today, but over $1.7m worth of SM-Z130H parts imported to India - Tizen Experts		Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z2w	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt 5.4 released http://t.co/YKMpFMNyYi	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.qt.digia.com)	Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z2x	Dec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.qt.digia.com \| Qt 5.4 released \| Qt Blog		Dec 11 02:46
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Football__Tweet/status/542802411006746624	Dec 11 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Football__Tweet: AS Roma might be regretting this tweet now. #ASRoma #MCFC http://t.co/4k6ePrHcmf		Dec 11 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Football__Tweet: AS Roma might be regretting this tweet now. #ASRoma #MCFC http://t.co/4k6ePrHcmf		Dec 11 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler,	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung #Slush2014 http://t.co/JnbGcZZoKy	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 11 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014 - Tizen Experts		Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zai	Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine 3.1.0 released http://t.co/N4H0kD7plD	Dec 11 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.alpinelinux.org)	Dec 11 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org \| Alpine 3.1.0 released \| Alpine Linux		Dec 11 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zaj	Dec 11 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18	Dec 11 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zOyx1AhE5h (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zak	Dec 11 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18 - Softpedia		Dec 11 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine 3.1.0 released http://t.co/z1KfJi15qA	Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zb1	Dec 11 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Alpine 3.1.0 released \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times	Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nykpg50Y6o (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zb2	Dec 11 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times		Dec 11 03:12
*TweetTuxMachines @fjmorales favourited 'F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot...'		Dec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for	Dec 11 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	Embedded Devices Already http://t.co/cD6AcK27tk	Dec 11 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for Embedded Devices Already - Softpedia		Dec 11 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zf1	Dec 11 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support	Dec 11 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	32-Bit Linux http://t.co/EfR115rdyD	Dec 11 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support 32-Bit Linux		Dec 11 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zf2	Dec 11 03:26
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542887228293132288	Dec 11 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz Now you're just being paranoid. Like saying Canonical can access your Ubuntu laptop because they could put malware in it.		Dec 11 03:45
schestowitz__	false analogy	Dec 11 03:45
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542887670465040384	Dec 11 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz if you have some proof that Google is putting keyloggers into Chromebooks to get your passwords, then by all means share! :P		Dec 11 03:45
schestowitz__	No keyloggers, straw man...	Dec 11 03:46
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888000258969600	Dec 11 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz please explain how Google can access the laptop that doesn't involve some malware or backdoor that someone would've found?		Dec 11 03:46
schestowitz__	According to WSJ, FBI has remote access to Android	Dec 11 03:46
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888092298792961	Dec 11 03:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz okay I'm just not sure what it is that you're proposing as the method for Google to steal people's passwords (for the NSA?)		Dec 11 03:47
schestowitz__	Google is in PRISM and Snowden leaks showed that NSA targets sysadmins for their passwords on 'cloud'	Dec 11 03:47
schestowitz__	to compromise networks all around the world	Dec 11 03:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888553735147522	Dec 11 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz that's news. Does the FBI have to install an app first? And Android isn't used in Chromebooks except for some app compat stuff.		Dec 11 03:49
schestowitz__	WSJ did not explain how FBI does this, but collaboration on backdoor access (like with Microsoft) likely	Dec 11 03:50
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/explanoit/status/542888560333193216	Dec 11 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@explanoit: @schestowitz @jhamby they have access to phones through 0days and baseband firmware. There's no "install key logger" command at Google.		Dec 11 03:50
schestowitz__	Cellphones come with a second OS ('smart' phone) that can remotely rake over the first one	Dec 11 03:51
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889078937513984 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889142862888962	Dec 11 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@explanoit @schestowitz yeah, Google has done a lot of questionable stuff, but intentionally backdooring Android isn't one of them AFAIK.		Dec 11 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz ok so you've admitted you're just making shit up now. Got it.		Dec 11 03:52
schestowitz__	Google only recently claimed that it was finally trying to lock FBI out	Dec 11 03:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889369783107584	Dec 11 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz there's a lot of factual info in book "@/War" about where Microsoft & Google actually do collaborate, but it's not like that.		Dec 11 03:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542890155745366017	Dec 11 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz okay, but it's more of "not trying hard enough" to block 0-days than "intentionally adding them to make things easy for FBI".		Dec 11 03:55
schestowitz__	Informing the NSA about 0-days before fixing them effectively the same as sharing backdoor info	Dec 11 03:55
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542890406698967040	Dec 11 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz I'd like to know more about what kinds of baseband exploits are out there. It's shared mem so the BP could easily take control.		Dec 11 03:56
schestowitz__	There was confirmation of this last year and the year before that	Dec 11 03:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/suprfluo/status/542890608621551617	Dec 11 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suprfluo: @schestowitz @jhamby actually the report was about the FBI using malware to access Android.		Dec 11 03:57
schestowitz__	FBI can remotely activate Android and laptop microphones, reports WSJ http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4580718/fbi-can-remotely-activate-android-and-laptop-microphones-reports-wsj	Dec 11 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| FBI can remotely activate Android and laptop microphones, reports WSJ \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/j2zq1 ]		Dec 11 03:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891039258714112	Dec 11 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz right, but if you take the facts and then jump to the farthest conclusion, assuming that tech is eager to jump in bed w/ spies.		Dec 11 03:59
schestowitz__	tech is used as a jumping board for spies	Dec 11 03:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891368566116352	Dec 11 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @suprfluo that story's over a year old now, and it talks about the FBI having to implant malware to do such things.		Dec 11 04:00
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891651036102656	Dec 11 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz sometimes they're both, yes. Sometimes corporate spies steal trade secrets and sell them to other companies. No NSA needed.		Dec 11 04:01
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891823832637442 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891898268950528 https://twitter.com/suprfluo/status/542891979244576769	Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz you seem to see these big tech companies as monolithic entities with basically malevolent intentions, and I find that tech does		Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz the most harm and commits the most evil out of their good intentions to "make the world a better place" with #meritocracy. :/		Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suprfluo: @schestowitz @jhamby yeah by installing malware, I'd suggest boarding your research from a random regurgitation by the verge.		Dec 11 04:04
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542892138166378496	Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm more concerned with the unintended side effects of technology than the idea that Google wants to steal all your passwords.		Dec 11 04:04
schestowitz__	google does not need your passwords. Straw man again.	Dec 11 04:05
schestowitz__	With the exception perhaps of AT&T and Microsoft, which give spies the red carpet, tech companies exploited by spies	Dec 11 04:07
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/QhaBhuti/status/542894034088652800	Dec 11 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QhaBhuti: @jhamby sigh! Jake your patience is legendary @schestowitz		Dec 11 04:15
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*vallor (~Ponzo@pdpc/supporter/monthlygold/vallor) has joined #techrights		Dec 11 04:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/explanoit/status/542896411676008448	Dec 11 04:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@explanoit: @schestowitz @jhamby I said baseband		Dec 11 04:21
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/N_is_Een/status/538314267658031105 https://twitter.com/dougpete/status/538661732030627841	Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@N_is_Een: All your #Firefox-keystrokes are belong to #Microsoft and possibly #NSA: http://t.co/NqaPodYiWn Et Tu, Mozilla?		Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Mozilla Will Relay Firefox User Input (Even Keystrokes) to Microsoft and the NSA Through Yahoo in the US \| Techrights		Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dougpete: This article will make you think - http://t.co/gJ2GywPh7u		Dec 11 04:26
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/CDSRV/status/542897969004281856	Dec 11 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CDSRV: @schestowitz : cool concept		Dec 11 04:27
schestowitz__	http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904	Dec 11 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com \| Heavy Censorship in Pakistan Shows Why the Next Arab Spring Won't Be on Facebook \| Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/j047z ]		Dec 11 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Iran Upholds Death Sentence for Photographer Who Insulted Prophet on Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/j3050 ]		Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	http://qz.com/308023/facebook-is-making-employees-read-chinese-propaganda-to-impress-beijing/	Dec 11 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com \| Facebook is making employees read Chinese propaganda to impress Beijing – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/j3052 ]		Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	==	Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	older:	Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing	Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904	Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	==	Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__	==	Dec 11 04:51
schestowitz__	http://opensource.com/government/14/12/open-source-sensitive-materials-email	Dec 11 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Open source email for government \| Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/j3067 ]		Dec 11 04:51
schestowitz__	No mention of encryption.	Dec 11 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Steam Computes Linux Sales	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fdWtWUfkuX (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30c8	Dec 11 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| How Steam Computes Linux Sales \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multi-Layer Support Coming To OverlayFS In	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/VqCHIDLhoR	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Multi-Layer Support Coming To OverlayFS In Linux 3.19		Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30ca	Dec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	mettle http://t.co/aUNh8OsOzP	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.infoworld.com)	Dec 11 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their mettle \| InfoWorld		Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30cb	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	mettle http://t.co/0VKs5D0C4V	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30cf	Dec 11 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their mettle \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 21 http://t.co/zq054onRjc	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30ci	Dec 11 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 21 \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/8nLFJVZVDD	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30ck	Dec 11 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/r5NrjGpDr6	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j315v	Dec 11 06:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/MmFqcBxIg3	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j315x	Dec 11 06:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/12/2014: systemd 218, Empire Total War	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oPeGEhJjUK (techrights.org)	Dec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j315y	Dec 11 06:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 11/12/2014: systemd 218, Empire Total War \| Techrights		Dec 11 06:50
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neobii	howdy, does anyone know a channel where they talk about business law?	Dec 11 07:18
msb_	neobii: do an advanced google search for search irc channels	Dec 11 07:23
msb_	neobii: you get several irc search sites	Dec 11 07:24
neobii	well I did "contract law" freenode and it brought me here and #techbytes	Dec 11 07:24
msb_	I just typed /join #law to freenode and got a channel ##law with 53 people in it	Dec 11 07:28
msb_	neobii: so ask in ##law about contract law	Dec 11 07:31
msb_	Google is your friend, except when it reports you to the NSA.	Dec 11 07:32
neobii	ah, yeah sometimes my queries are too specific haha	Dec 11 07:33
msb_	In the 1980s I was doing programming for the AIDS Clinic of San Francisco General Hospital. I had to give a talk on database usage for the staff, but I couldn't use the word "query" because the gay men might be insulted!	Dec 11 07:38
MinceR	lol	Dec 11 07:41
msb_	It was a great place to work, until I found out that an AIDS patient was using my computer when I wasn't there. That was before it was learned that HIV isn't contagious by touch. I, uh, buggered off.	Dec 11 07:43
MinceR	:>	Dec 11 07:44
msb_	They had a great RDBMS on their IBM-PCs. I think it was ported from Unix. Can't remember the name now.	Dec 11 07:53
msb_	I think it was Informix.	Dec 11 07:58
msb_	I didn't tell them it was my first DBMS experience. Just got a couple of books and read up on it.	Dec 11 08:00
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5284110	Dec 11 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook does not give people a voice; it uses (exploits) their voice (and name), selectively, to promote Facebook-centric agenda		Dec 11 10:16
schestowitz__	"Promotes the agenda of corporate and government owners - Microsoft, NSA, etc. It's what Rupert Murdoch was unable to make out of MySpace."	Dec 11 10:16
schestowitz__	Not enough people were willing to participate	Dec 11 10:17
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5284111	Dec 11 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Look how 'well' #facebook worked for these people http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904 real name policy, Zuck?		Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com \| Heavy Censorship in Pakistan Shows Why the Next Arab Spring Won't Be on Facebook \| Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/j047z ]		Dec 11 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Iran Upholds Death Sentence for Photographer Who Insulted Prophet on Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/j3050 ]		Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__	when I was using Lantern, the proxy, I saw almost as many people connecting from Pakistan as from China.	Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__	I'm not sure I trust Lantern anymore. Any advice on this? Lantern	Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__	It's best to just avoid platforms like Facebook, with or without anonymity	Dec 11 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Linux Works Is an OS Mechanic's Mainstay	Dec 11 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hiZYBzvnXp (www.linuxinsider.com)	Dec 11 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33dz	Dec 11 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| How Linux Works Is an OS Mechanic's Mainstay \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Dec 11 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Was 2014 "The Year of Linux Desktop"?	Dec 11 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KHMNKlLygE (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33hn	Dec 11 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Was 2014 "The Year of Linux Desktop"? - Softpedia		Dec 11 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of	Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	2014? http://t.co/bnAN16MDUg (jimlynch.com)	Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33jz	Dec 11 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com \| Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? – Jim Lynch		Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops	Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/n1gDrXiBJr (www.datamation.com)	Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33k0	Dec 11 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com \| My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops - Datamation		Dec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wnbZlPdzHQ (www.dedoimedo.com)	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33m5	Dec 11 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com \| Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant		Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	2014? http://t.co/oBCRtSgO71	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33m7	Dec 11 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DG1No8DYop (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33m9	Dec 11 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The truth about the thick skin of a community	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	manager http://t.co/pmltVlOrGz	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33ma	Dec 11 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The truth about the thick skin of a community manager \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Ruled 2014, Codenames, and Steam Linux	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	Sales http://t.co/8lY8xdoNdg	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33mb	Dec 11 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Ruled 2014, Codenames, and Steam Linux Sales \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/B3lgRjrV4T (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33yc	Dec 11 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gentoo mailing lists down	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ottXTviBZV	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	(dilfridge.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 11 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilfridge.blogspot.co.uk \| the dilfridge blog: Gentoo mailing lists down		Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33yd	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	Tahr 6.0 CE http://t.co/QADT9pgZvr	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.everydaylinuxuser.com)	Dec 11 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux Tahr 6.0 CE « Everyday Linux User		Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33ye	Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ttx939aVut (www.zdnet.com) "I've	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	only started playing with Fedora"	Dec 11 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here \| ZDNet		Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33zt	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6 of the Best Open Source Holiday Gifts for	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	SMBs http://t.co/PtIE9gx2e6	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33zv	Dec 11 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 6 of the Best Open Source Holiday Gifts for SMBs \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why your organisation will thank you for going	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	open source http://t.co/kX6Jqz6ZaP	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33zz	Dec 11 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why your organisation will thank you for going open source \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	Happen. http://t.co/ntsMWl3Kz3	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3401	Dec 11 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to Happen. \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	Tahr 6.0 CE http://t.co/qDO5kvjjGc	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j342w	Dec 11 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux Tahr 6.0 CE \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7sRX6DajLw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j342y	Dec 11 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	Available in Linux Systems	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wZyNBOeO7S (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3431	Dec 11 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already Available in Linux Systems - Softpedia		Dec 11 12:29
*TweetTuxMachines @neozerdrakon retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already...'		Dec 11 12:29
*TweetTuxMachines @neozerdrakon favourited 'Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already...'		Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack,	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9PHqKXa8xA (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qk	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack, Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On - Softpedia		Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Available in Linux Systems	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6pjjNQCEuy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qm	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already Available in Linux Systems \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multiple http://t.co/5vV90o4wJB (www.x.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Vulnerabilities Found, One Is from 1987	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ldje1tsPIk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qo	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org \| xorg		Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Multiple X.Org Vulnerabilities Found, One Is from 1987 \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack,	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/N6vGdBMsLJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qp	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack, Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MongoDB gets its first native analytics tool	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7uABfZNaSI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qq	Dec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MongoDB gets its first native analytics tool \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:43
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 17:16:19 2012		Dec 11 14:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already	Dec 11 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Available in Linux Systems	Dec 11 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	@SerbianLinuks http://t.co/wZyNBOeO7S (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35bj	Dec 11 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already Available in Linux Systems - Softpedia		Dec 11 14:47
*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks favourited 'Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already...'		Dec 11 14:47
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285453	Dec 11 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft loves Linux. #gnu #linux gives Microsoft ideas... of things to copy, clone, then claim credit for.		Dec 11 14:50
schestowitz_bed2	"Copying is fine in the FOSS culture. The problem is that they try to promote copied ideas as "innovation". Apple does that too."	Dec 11 14:50
schestowitz_bed2	"But Microsoft isn't the only one who does that. Ask Apple for more information.'	Dec 11 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	Fundraiser https://t.co/MxBb0Qcjzo	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	(dot.kde.org)	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35ih	Dec 11 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a Fundraiser \| KDE.news		Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cabinet office Plugfest builds momentum for ODF	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cRB4vrFf9v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35ij	Dec 11 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cabinet office Plugfest builds momentum for ODF \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	Fundraiser http://t.co/Av5HRgisL5	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35ik	Dec 11 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a Fundraiser \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/e9dNpmPzgp (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w4	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Device May Come Instead http://t.co/JMCrEVogmm	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android Device May Come Instead \| Ubuntu content from The VAR Guy		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w5	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Linux machines using Systemback	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Nln3iCClA5 (www.techrepublic.com)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w6	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based Linux machines using Systemback - TechRepublic		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Go 1.4 is released http://t.co/hWmQ1St9iB	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w8	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Go 1.4 is released \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mwsuC1kMZW (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wa	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Device May Come Instead http://t.co/H71ZvOx8S1	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wc	Dec 11 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android Device May Come Instead \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based	Dec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Linux machines using Systemback	Dec 11 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nAJukl1Rsm (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wh	Dec 11 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based Linux machines using Systemback \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OPNFV Adds New Members to Open Source SDN/NFV	Dec 11 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	Project http://t.co/KBskUDprAA	Dec 11 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wj	Dec 11 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OPNFV Adds New Members to Open Source SDN/NFV Project \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 15:45
schestowitz_bed2	"In 2013, "There were two mass appeals against Investigation Guidelines	Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	(Circular 341, 342). One mass appeal with 89 appellants, the second with 61."	Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	<a href="https://www.epo.org/modules/epoweb/acdocument/epoweb2/133/en/CA-55-14_en.pdf"></a>	Dec 11 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.epo.org/modules/epoweb/acdocument/epoweb2/133/en/CA-55-14_en.pdf"></a )		Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	aka "Microsoft Word ec14055.docx" which means Microsoft has an inside track on	Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	all of this.	Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2	>	Dec 11 16:22
schestowitz_bed2	> Just to let you know that we enjoyed the series so far and are looking	Dec 11 16:23
schestowitz_bed2	> forward to the continuation.	Dec 11 16:23
schestowitz_bed2	> We attach a copy of the letter in French.	Dec 11 16:24
schestowitz_bed2	> Unfortunately we don't have a translation available at the moment.	Dec 11 16:24
schestowitz_bed2	me:	Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2	"	Dec 11 16:28
schestowitz_bed2	There are enough weekly posts drafted to last until Christmas. Slow but persistent, I think, is what will help shake up perceptions and cause public opinion to shift.	Dec 11 16:28
schestowitz_bed2	Any other documents you can send and won't cause trouble if published help saturate the search engines with relevant names, places, and expose the reader to some contextual scandals.	Dec 11 16:28
schestowitz_bed2	With series like these, which do not directly target the regular readers (subscribers, mostly FOSS proponents in our case), the "premium" target is people who are involved and mentioned in the scandals or their colleagues/partners.	Dec 11 16:28
schestowitz_bed2	Vestna Stilin wrote a response to an article from the Zurich folks. I was curious about that article. My wife and I then checked her name and Google. Results #1 was -- you've guessed it -- IPWatch and the article about her fight with Topic. Not quite the clients magnet, is it...?	Dec 11 16:28
schestowitz_bed2	Either way, I can assure you I'll make available online what need to be online and won't divulge identities. I never did, in all the past leaks in the site.	Dec 11 16:28
schestowitz_bed2	"	Dec 11 16:28
schestowitz_bed2	http://techrights.org/2014/12/11/france-vs-battistelli/	Dec 11 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| France Gets Involved in Battistelli’s Abuses in the EPO – Part XII \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j36bx ]		Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz_bed2	Could you help by providing an English translation of the letter in French?	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz_bed2	http://techrights.org/2014/12/11/epo-staff-backlash/ (Rolling of Heads Likely Imminent at EPO)	Dec 11 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Rolling of Heads Likely Imminent at EPO \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j36cd ]		Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285379	Dec 11 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I'd hate to link to Dietrich, but this response to #Turla is right on point http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2014/12/linux-turla-malware-infection-not-going.html		Dec 11 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxadvocates.com \| Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to Happen. ~ Linux Advocates [ http://ur1.ca/j36p3 ]		Dec 11 17:18
schestowitz_bed2	"I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day."	Dec 11 17:18
schestowitz_bed2	LOL	Dec 11 17:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now Available	Dec 11 18:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort	Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100	Dec 11 18:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100 companies \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes	Dec 11 18:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Joyent Offers Linux Branded Zones, Extends	Dec 11 18:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Second Beta for LibreOffice 4.4 Is Now Ready	Dec 11 18:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Second Beta for LibreOffice 4.4 Is Now Ready for Testing \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Trine Enchanted Edition For Linux Released	Dec 11 18:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Trine Enchanted Edition For Linux Released \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 11 18:27
schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110168989683712 https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543109406255497216	Dec 11 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Cracking down on the #internet is always about pedophiles, terrorists, and "pirates" http:// (...) http://t.co/aViDG8ejhf		Dec 11 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host ' (...)' ( status 0 @ http:// (...) )		Dec 11 18:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Evo Morales Slams Richest Countries over Global Warming http://t.co/1YAMKx0iTJ good leader. #morales		Dec 11 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> telesurtv.net \| Evo Morales Slams Richest Countries over Global Warming \| News \| teleSUR		Dec 11 18:30
schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110526956736512	Dec 11 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: #amazon has just gotten even more evil https://t.co/z2ykYe5wiZ a friend of mine resigned last week. http://t.co/GdUHJdw1zP		Dec 11 18:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Amazon - Techrights		Dec 11 18:30
schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110640836280321	Dec 11 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Trine Enchanted Edition For #Linux Released http://t.co/cyDPuYXqLh #games		Dec 11 18:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @ekimetrics favourited 'Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort AllSeen Alliance grows...'		Dec 11 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings Mixed	Dec 11 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	Results For Linux Users http://t.co/vfdysHG8Z4	Dec 11 19:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings Mixed Results For Linux Users		Dec 11 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes	Dec 11 19:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes		Dec 11 19:08
schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543119617636696065	Dec 11 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: #gnu #linux more prominent in the #games world now http://t.co/5MMwweyTgU		Dec 11 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com \| The 7DFPS Challenge 2014: A Linux Perspective \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 11 19:10
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schestowitz_bed2	hi GinghamPenguin	Dec 11 19:10
GinghamPenguin	Hello	Dec 11 19:10
schestowitz_bed2	new here, so I thought I'd say hi	Dec 11 19:15
msb_	GinghamPenguin: What kind of Linux are you using?	Dec 11 19:16
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GinghamPenguin	msb_: I haven't settled on a long term distro yet. I've been hopping and tweaking for way too long. I come back to crunchbang in between sessions	Dec 11 19:21
GinghamPenguin	It's my home base	Dec 11 19:21
msb_	I just stay with OpenSuse. Once I got all my weird hardware and zillions of scripts running I just let it stay.	Dec 11 19:22
schestowitz__	debian based...	Dec 11 19:22
schestowitz__	#!	Dec 11 19:22
msb_	Does crunchbang use systemd? That's the big controversy these days.	Dec 11 19:22
GinghamPenguin	That's a can of worms right there. I've seen some HEATED systemd vs init arguments	Dec 11 19:24
GinghamPenguin	It's never pretty	Dec 11 19:24
msb_	I'm solidly anti. Violates too many foundational Unix principles.	Dec 11 19:25
GinghamPenguin	I understand that. I also know that most new linux users don't know enough to care.	Dec 11 19:27
msb_	I just found a shim that emulates pulseaudio from alsa. Allows skype to run.	Dec 11 19:28
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285620	Dec 11 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fox 'news' taunts people who speak out against #police #racism http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/12/10/foxs-rivera-lebron-james-should-wear-be-a-bette/201842 #nypd #EricGarner		Dec 11 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org \| Fox's Rivera: LeBron James Should Wear "Be A Better Father" Shirt Instead Of "I Can't Breathe" \| Video \| Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/j3811 ]		Dec 11 19:29
schestowitz__	"Lebron James could definitely learn lessons about fatherhood from a man whose own son is ashamed of him. Definitely and absolutely."	Dec 11 19:29
schestowitz__	"When the Wall Street people responsible of the mortgage fraud and the US government people responsible of torture are thrown in a dungeon forever, I might hear why selling cigarettes in the street deserves to be killed for."	Dec 11 19:29
msb_	I think that's the way. People are working on various shims to enable systemd-requiring apps to run with sysvinit systems.	Dec 11 19:29
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285225	Dec 11 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/is-linux-mint-17-1-really-the-best-desktop-of-2014/ #gnu #linux #linuxmint #fedora		Dec 11 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? – Jim Lynch		Dec 11 19:30
schestowitz__	"Yes, I've followed your reporting on that very closely. Thank you for writing about it."	Dec 11 19:30
msb_	Some cigarettes sold on the street are very beneficial.	Dec 11 19:31
GinghamPenguin	As a linux tinkerer, I don't have much of a horse in the systemd debate. I understand the concerns, but am mostly watching from the sidelines.	Dec 11 19:32
msb_	I think the vastly increased communication ability of the Net will eventually bring the end of all this tyranny.	Dec 11 19:32
msb_	GinghamPenguin: Likewise here.	Dec 11 19:32
schestowitz__	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5287004	Dec 11 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa uses #fedora and senior Fedora staff told me NSA passes to them patches to put in #linux (which I'm not sure is a good thing at all)		Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	"source?"	Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	"yeah, gonna need some source on that,	Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 19:33
msb_	But at least I'm learning how Linux boots up, which I didn't know before.	Dec 11 19:33
GinghamPenguin	Yup! It's good stuff to learn	Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	"also something to note, RHEL is used by the US military, so i wouldnt be surprised if fedora was used for things to, and other us agencies had their hands in it"	Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__	Red Hat makes systemd	Dec 11 19:34
msb_	My version is still sysvinit, which is another good reason for not upgrading, so I can learn from it.	Dec 11 19:34
schestowitz__	Fedora is used by NSA for some data collection (wireless), based on Snowden leaks. Fedora staff told me about NSA role by E-mail.	Dec 11 19:35
msb_	schestowitz__: yes, that's the theory on at least one of the anti-systemd sites -- US fascist govt is using systemd to infiltrate (or adopt, control and extinguish) Linux.	Dec 11 19:37
msb_	And it's doing it through RedHat.	Dec 11 19:37
GinghamPenguin	I wonder if they use it because it works (and not for nefarious reasons)	Dec 11 19:37
msb_	But they all work -- Suse, Debian, ...	Dec 11 19:38
GinghamPenguin	Of course. But the NSA is going to have to use _something_.	Dec 11 19:39
msb_	But I guess RedHat was the first big famous one, so maybe that's what the govt started with.	Dec 11 19:39
GinghamPenguin	No matter what they choose, someone is going to be suspicious.	Dec 11 19:39
GinghamPenguin	And RedHat provides support, which makes sense.	Dec 11 19:40
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msb_	But it just so happens that Poettering works for RedHat.	Dec 11 19:41
msb_	And he also wrote pulseaudio, and when M	Dec 11 19:42
msb_	when MS ate skype, it forced Linux users to use pulseaudio.	Dec 11 19:42
GinghamPenguin	I dropped skype when that happened :(	Dec 11 19:43
msb_	In any effort to sabotage Linux, Microsoft is going to be in there somewhere.	Dec 11 19:43
msb_	I have a few friends that I can't get to use Linux.	Dec 11 19:44
GinghamPenguin	I have to use Windows for work (and for wife).	Dec 11 19:44
msb_	I like IHU for VOIP. it's very easy to get going, but Linux only.	Dec 11 19:45
GinghamPenguin	I haven't tried it. See, I came in here for a reason. I'll check it out.	Dec 11 19:45
GinghamPenguin	The techrights page is really rough on mobile.	Dec 11 19:46
msb_	http://ihu.sourceforge.net/	Dec 11 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net \| I Hear U (IHU) Project Homepage		Dec 11 19:46
msb_	For ihu, the i386 binary linked with static libs version works with old and current Suse, but only 32bit. For 64bit, hopefully compiling it from source will work.	Dec 11 19:49
GinghamPenguin	I will have to compile from source, then. It'll give me something to do this weekend. Afk	Dec 11 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort	Dec 11 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100	Dec 11 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	companies http://t.co/NUYvac4HOT	Dec 11 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.open-electronics.org)	Dec 11 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now Available	Dec 11 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 20:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel		Dec 11 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings Mixed	Dec 11 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	Results For Linux Users http://t.co/qdb3Ym1OLF	Dec 11 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 20:01
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schestowitz__	>>> >> " you cannot decide to not charge Google News. It is	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >> compulsory. More than a right it is an obligation"	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >>	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >> http://searchengineland.com/spain-ready-enact-google-tax-forcing-company-pay-content-links-198171	Dec 11 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchengineland.com \| Spanish Law To Force Google To Index And Pay For Local News [ http://ur1.ca/j392a ]		Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >>	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>>> >> No opt-out for the magazines and newspapers, etc.	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> >	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> > I support Google's exit from the market or removal of sites that	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> > complain. If they don't want it, then fine. If they want it, say thank	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> > you to Google and stop bitching about having a broken business model.	Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__	>> >	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	>> > Google does some bad things; this isn't one of them.	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	> Agreed. The Spanish government is out of touch with reality on this one.	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	> If they decide the case also applies to regular searches then it will	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	> be really crazy.	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	That would potentially be a next step. There's little difference between the two except age of results.	Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5286919	Dec 11 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Creative writing teacher resigns after student writes about Jesus, pot http://www.koat.com/news/creative-writing-teacher-resigns-after-student-writes-about-jesus-pot/30128384 "Jesus handing out marijuana to the sick."		Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	"I want to read it. the kid should be earning on that copyright"	Dec 11 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.koat.com \| Creative writing teacher resigns after student writes about Jesus, pot \| New Mexico News - KOAT Home [ http://ur1.ca/j383e ]		Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5287622	Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "America can be a brutal superpower, especially when -- as rarely happens -- it is attacked." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/torture-report-mccain_n_6300730.html even pro-actively		Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__	"Can be? Interesting. I didn't know it ever took a break. Pretty sure every living elected president, and GW Bush, could be tried and hanged at the Hague. Except maybe Carter(?)."	Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com \| Planet Politics: America's Bloody Conscience [ http://ur1.ca/j392o ]		Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5287342	Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "13 alleged militants"..."allegedly involved" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/us-drone-strikes-pakistan-afghanistan-kill-13-militants this is not accurate and it's mass #assassination		Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| US drone strikes kill 13 alleged militants in Pakistan and Afghanistan \| World news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/j392s ]		Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__	""13 alleged militants"..."allegedly involved" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/us-drone-strikes-pakistan-afghanistan-kill-13-militants this is not accurate and it's mass #assassination"	Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__	Nope, years ago I read it's over 16... recently 14 or 15	Dec 11 21:37
schestowitz__	"Remember, any male aged 18 or over is considered a militant now."	Dec 11 21:37
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5286880	Dec 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: More "more attacks on privacy under this rubric" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30426164 always "for the children", like #uk #censorship filters		Dec 11 21:37
schestowitz__	"Hard to argue against child protection, so dark net no more for anyone else"	Dec 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - GCHQ to help tackle 'dark net' child abuse images		Dec 11 21:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SOS Open Source is Now Open Source!	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yzpmcP9W2z (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j398m	Dec 11 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SOS Open Source is Now Open Source! \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SKMOrpGQzT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Tizen Development Tools Version 14.03.1	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	Released http://t.co/KvIwhBWgXs	Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 11 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Announcement] New Tizen Development Tools Version 14.03.1 Released - Tizen Experts		Dec 11 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Our approach to software and ongoing support	Dec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	for the first Fairphones	Dec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b33xBHwgx1 (www.fairphone.com)	Dec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j39c9	Dec 11 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fairphone.com \| Our approach to software and ongoing support for the first Fairphones \| Fairphone		Dec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Five open source PaaS options you should know	Dec 11 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ra1LuHEJdl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Five open source PaaS options you should know \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi	Dec 11 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qWXzHYxs7F (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Our approach to software and ongoing support	Dec 11 22:33
TweetTuxMachines	for the first Fairphones http://t.co/q0A91j4ZCy	Dec 11 22:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Our approach to software and ongoing support for the first Fairphones \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi	Dec 11 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ddC4yUnAfz (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 11 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j39vf	Dec 11 23:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud Server	Dec 12 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	release http://t.co/Dnf8ndPtjS (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 12 00:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/12/2014: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1	Dec 12 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	Beta, Firefox 35 Plans http://t.co/wLspRUaO5b	Dec 12 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Dec 12 00:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 11/12/2014: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta, Firefox 35 Plans \| Techrights		Dec 12 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Five open source PaaS options you should know	Dec 12 00:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud Server	Dec 12 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	release http://t.co/h5RiAsSMwN	Dec 12 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3baa	Dec 12 03:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/cIER34FKmm	Dec 12 03:06
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3bab	Dec 12 03:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 03:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/bSw9ClxMDm	Dec 12 03:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 03:06
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*TweetTuxMachines @JoeSpeeds favourited 'Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort AllSeen Alliance grows...'		Dec 12 03:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google releases Cardboard VR viewer specs and	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	SDKs http://t.co/3yoD3U7yEg (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	good use of super high-res phone displays,	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3db8	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sharing with Qt on Android	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hp390NW2pZ (www.calligra.org)	Dec 12 09:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed to connect to 2400:cb00:2048:1::681c:1835: Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/google-releases-cardboard-vr-viewer-specs-and-sdks/ )		Dec 12 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calligra.org \| Sharing with Qt on Android \| Calligra Suite		Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wsOBolteEC (www.linuxinsider.com)	Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dbd	Dec 12 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Dec 12 09:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla to Support Certificate Transparency in	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	Firefox http://t.co/rmxcL5rkyy (threatpost.com)	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3diy	Dec 12 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-threatpost.com \| Mozilla to Support Certificate Transparency in Firefox \| Threatpost \| The first stop for security news		Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JPPi1rCDBE (www.maketecheasier.com)	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3diz	Dec 12 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com \| The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux - Make Tech Easier		Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	Show Up Next Year http://t.co/rfdqhms0lK	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Dec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dj0	Dec 12 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com \| HP Will Show Off New Linux OS In 2015 - Business Insider		Dec 12 09:42
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 17:16:19 2012		Dec 12 10:24
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roy_	"I would also like to stress that the socialist Deputy Leborgn (for the French citizens living abroad) already was in touch with various Ministers (including foreign affairs : Fabius, Industry : Pellerin, economy : Moscovici) in April this year. However, he was told in substance "before Mr. B. there was no legal system framing the right to strike so that it should be regarded as a progress. Presented with the fact that the new strike law was	Dec 12 10:29
roy_	below French standard, the deputy was answered that the EPO is made of 38 countries so that compromises should be made. For the record, Fabius, Moscovici, Pellerin and now Marcon all come from the same school as Mr B: that is the ENA (Ecole Nationale d'Administration). ENA's alumni is one of the most powerful French networks, may be even more powerful than freemasonry"	Dec 12 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GCSkeh1fMz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dtx	Dec 12 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat 7.1 Beta, Malware History, and Bug	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	Reports http://t.co/HXwvAyduuj	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3du0	Dec 12 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat 7.1 Beta, Malware History, and Bug Reports \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 10:35
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5289577	Dec 12 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will Show Up Next Year http://uk.businessinsider.com/hp-will-show-off-new-linux-os-in-2015-2014-12?r=US #hp #microsoft #linuxplusplus #linux		Dec 12 10:37
roy_	"Looks promising but then again talk is cheap."	Dec 12 10:37
roy_	HP promised Linux OSes before but later abandoned/sold those and started attacking Linux with Microsoft (.e.g. in Munich)	Dec 12 10:38
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roy_	The light shades arrived on time and in good conditions. Would recommend!	Dec 12 12:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/D9XgRxpTRE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3f21	Dec 12 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	Show Up Next Year http://t.co/4aP13UtnP8	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3f22	Dec 12 14:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines European Commission updates its open source	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	policy http://t.co/fqbb1wNGM4	Dec 12 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 14:01
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MinceR	http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SystemdCrashAndMore	Dec 12 16:23
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MinceR	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4q0lPrIAAAZlh5.jpg	Dec 12 17:23
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5289717	Dec 12 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/543173859055124482		Dec 12 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mattdpearce: Can we talk about how crazy this photo is? http://t.co/TWOolhyf6C		Dec 12 18:45
roy_	"Die Chancen stehen ganz gut, dass es da bald nochmal so richtig knallen wird !"	Dec 12 18:45
*TweetTuxMachines @KanBoHQ followed @tuxmachines		Dec 12 19:05
roy_	https://twitter.com/SimonRWaters/status/543481452328144898	Dec 12 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SimonRWaters: @schestowitz "Though a suspect has the right to remain silent during an arrest and not give their password" http://t.co/Hxc3vkdZe6		Dec 12 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> globalnews.ca \| What rules must police follow to search a cellphone during arrest? - National \| Globalnews.ca		Dec 12 19:13
roy_	I linked to the ruling the other day and spotted a contradicting. Not many people encrypt their phones.	Dec 12 19:14
DaemonFC	http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/scott_lively.html	Dec 12 19:15
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roy_	https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/543484162527997952	Dec 12 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz The systemd matter is a subject for another day.		Dec 12 19:18
DaemonFC	roy_: I'm on an old XP machine right now.	Dec 12 19:18
roy_	I hardly take sides in it (undecided or apathetic), but it's no longer just an init system	Dec 12 19:18
DaemonFC	It's the only computer I have that works. I tried updating my EFI BIOS on the new computer the other day and it bricked the motherboard instead.	Dec 12 19:18
MinceR	that's efi for you	Dec 12 19:18
roy_	DaemonFC: XP is good... for botnets	Dec 12 19:18
DaemonFC	I ordered a new motherboard off of Newegg and I'll be doing a transplant of everything else.	Dec 12 19:19
DaemonFC	MinceR: The new motherboard was only $40 after rebate, and it has dual BIOS on it.	Dec 12 19:19
MinceR	bellwether? more like poison in the water supply	Dec 12 19:19
DaemonFC	Two BIOS chips. One is flashable, and the other is an emergency.	Dec 12 19:19
MinceR	systemd is the cancer that's killing gnu/linux	Dec 12 19:19
MinceR	DaemonFC: did that help?	Dec 12 19:20
MinceR	oh, new motherboard, after the old one got bricked	Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFC	If you do a bad update of the main BIOS, the backup BIOS boots the PC into a recovery mode, and can recover the main BIOS. If the main BIOS is permanently damaged, the backup BIOS can take over permanently.	Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFC	Yeah.	Dec 12 19:20
MinceR	nice	Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFC	Stupid Acer crap. I'm digging a standard ATX power supply out of another computer.	Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFC	I upgraded that one back in late 2012 to upgrade the GPU. It stopped booting several months ago, but I know the power supply is good.	Dec 12 19:21
DaemonFC	The one that came with the Acer is proprietary.	Dec 12 19:21
DaemonFC	I left a few nasty posts on their Facebook wall.	Dec 12 19:21
DaemonFC	I called their engineers idiots that shouldn't have been allowed to graduate from kindergarten.	Dec 12 19:22
DaemonFC	And that this would be my first and last computer from them.	Dec 12 19:22
DaemonFC	roy_: Windows XP is the only thing this old computer can really run.	Dec 12 19:25
DaemonFC	The integrated graphics were never properly supported in Linux, and then the driver got yanked completely from every(?) major distribution.	Dec 12 19:25
DaemonFC	I used the registry setting to get the post-April security fixes from Microsoft. The ones intended for WEPOS.	Dec 12 19:26
DaemonFC	There's about two dozen of them so far.	Dec 12 19:26
DaemonFC	With the hack, you keep getting security patches for XP until April 2019.	Dec 12 19:26
DaemonFC	So Microsoft continues to research and patch XP vulnerabilities. They just won't let the general public have them. Which is bad, because every month there are another 5-6 vulnerabilities that become public knowledge, with no official update for XP.	Dec 12 19:29
DaemonFC	Just because there's no update doesn't mean that people will stop using XP, and those machines will still have broadband internet access. :P	Dec 12 19:29
DaemonFC	There are still people using Windows 9x/Me, and those haven't been supported at all for 8 years.	Dec 12 19:30
DaemonFC	Most stat counters put Windows 9x/Me combines at about 1%. 1% of all the PCs on Earth is still quite a few systems.	Dec 12 19:30
DaemonFC	It would be foolish to suspect that XP will go away anytime soon. Microsoft is largely to blame. They kept letting OEMs license it through 2010, knowing that it would be out of support in under 4 years, so there are still some systems that came with it that aren't exactly ancient.	Dec 12 19:32
DaemonFC	I think it speaks volumes about just how bad Windows security is. Going on 15, and still getting 4-5 security patches every month? That's crazy. You'd expect the pace to slow down at some point, but apparently there's just no end to the vulnerabilities.	Dec 12 19:37
DaemonFC	XP is going on 15, that is.	Dec 12 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IT should listen to users not just managers,	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	says SugarCRM CEO http://t.co/TXAzbYdaLU	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hka	Dec 12 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IT should listen to users not just managers, says SugarCRM CEO \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	As Planned? http://t.co/yD5joFGKxA	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	(mrpogson.com)	Dec 12 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As Planned? \| Robert Pogson		Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hkc	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks)	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Tt1gBChP18 (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 12 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hkd	Dec 12 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks) \| ZDNet		Dec 12 19:38
*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As...'		Dec 12 19:38
DaemonFC	Windows Security Essentials still works on XP, but it nags you every day that XP is no longer supported. To make that shut up, I uninstalled it and installed Bitdefender Free.	Dec 12 19:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks favourited 'Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As...'		Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VQ0NSb3jWa (www.linuxjournal.com)	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hpg	Dec 12 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development \| Linux Journal		Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Call for Papers is open for the Embedded Linux	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	Conference 2015 http://t.co/hmZ1rw5hnu	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 12 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Call for Papers is open for the Embedded Linux Conference 2015 - Tizen Experts		Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hph	Dec 12 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	As Planned? http://t.co/EoAteAKv9J	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3huf	Dec 12 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As Planned? \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks)	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/05ymiK8fsK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hug	Dec 12 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks) \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5W2FCctTSB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3huh	Dec 12 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.5.0	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AErFhWtS3v (www.kde.org)	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hxn	Dec 12 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.5.0.php )		Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Continues to Grow in the Cloud Computing	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	and Implementation of Enterprise Applications	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/H6YLsOZv5S (cloudtimes.org)	Dec 12 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hxo	Dec 12 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cloudtimes.org \| Linux Continues to Grow in the Cloud Computing and Implementation of Enterprise Applications \| CloudTimes		Dec 12 20:22
roy_	http://www.computerworld.com/article/2475620/vertical-it/nsa-flashes-bios-for-60-minutes--the-plot-thickens-.html	Dec 12 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com \| NSA flashes BIOS for 60 Minutes (the plot thickens) \| Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/j3i7w ]		Dec 12 20:39
roy_	" Dr. Roy Schestowitz foresaw the terminals illness: "	Dec 12 20:39
roy_	https://twitter.com/gordonbp/status/543506846452314112	Dec 12 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gordonbp: @schestowitz apparently it was a power cut, not a computer crash...		Dec 12 20:48
roy_	Yes, the Windows systems failed to recover	Dec 12 20:48
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roy_	wb, jgay	Dec 12 20:54
roy_	jono_ I mean	Dec 12 20:54
jgay	no welcomes for me	Dec 12 20:56
roy_	always welcome! But jono_ has been absent for months :-)	Dec 12 20:56
jgay	hello jono_, congrats on the new job by the way!	Dec 12 20:56
jono_	hey roy_	Dec 12 20:56
jono_	thanks everyone	Dec 12 20:57
jono_	let me join in my normal client :-)	Dec 12 20:57
jono_	one sec	Dec 12 20:57
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jono	that's better :-)	Dec 12 20:57
roy_	jono_: my wife asked last night why there's no word of you on the web anymore and I said you had moved to a non-FOSS company	Dec 12 20:57
roy_	jono: we've put some major gov clients on ubuntu	Dec 12 20:58
roy_	inc FSA, london gov etc.	Dec 12 20:58
jono	roy_ yeah I have been putting much of the key bits in place at XPRIZE	Dec 12 20:58
jono	XPRIZE is a way different organization to Canonical	Dec 12 20:58
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jono	not really an IT company, but with an awesome grand mission :-)	Dec 12 20:58
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jono	so I have been heads down getting some core bits sorted	Dec 12 20:58
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jono	we are going to make the future a better place :-)	Dec 12 20:59
MinceR	welcome, jgay	Dec 12 20:59
jono	and open source and free software will be a key part of this :-)	Dec 12 20:59
*roy_ reads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Prize_Foundation		Dec 12 20:59
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roy_	I know it because of the founder	Dec 12 20:59
jono	cool	Dec 12 21:00
jono	we have a ways to go, but lots of cool opportunity ahead	Dec 12 21:00
jono	roy_ did you see the Global Learning XPRIZE ?	Dec 12 21:01
roy_	jono: have you met Elon Musk in person?	Dec 12 21:01
jono	roy_ not in person, no	Dec 12 21:01
roy_	jono: the Gates connection won't impress me	Dec 12 21:01
roy_	there was some of that with Danese Cooper	Dec 12 21:01
jono	well, Bill Gates at Gates Foundation and Bill Gates at MS are two quite different beasts from what I can tell	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	Earlier today I saw an articles linked to from opensource.com that openwashed Gates	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	the same guy who started the anti-FOSS movement	Dec 12 21:02
jono	people change, Roy	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	not him	Dec 12 21:02
jono	I dunno about you, but I was very different 15 years ago too	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	he still attacks FOSS	Dec 12 21:02
jono	I think he has	Dec 12 21:02
roy_	unless he profits from it	Dec 12 21:02
jono	no he doesn't	Dec 12 21:02
jono	and to be fair, it wasn't him, it was Ballmer	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	he profits a lot from what he does notr	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	which is not giving	Dec 12 21:03
jono	he was the architect of anti-Linux	Dec 12 21:03
jono	Gates was just wanted to build cool tech at MS	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	he gets about 5-10 percent richer each year	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	PR, deception, media control	Dec 12 21:03
jono	and the gates foundation are doing really valuable work	Dec 12 21:03
jono	anyway, I don't have much time to debate	Dec 12 21:03
jono	just wanted to say hi :-)	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	ok	Dec 12 21:03
roy_	np	Dec 12 21:03
cubexyz	giving antix 13.2 luddite a go	Dec 12 21:04
roy_	what hardware?	Dec 12 21:04
cubexyz	just a p3 :)	Dec 12 21:04
roy_	wow	Dec 12 21:04
roy_	you can probably buy loads by the piund	Dec 12 21:05
roy_	*pound	Dec 12 21:05
roy_	maybe 20 dollars per box	Dec 12 21:05
cubexyz	comes with ice weasel 22	Dec 12 21:06
jgay	jono, does xprize have any plans to do something (maybe even somethign community based) similar to what the knight foundation does with the "news challenges" program?	Dec 12 21:06
jgay	I really like their sequence that entrants go through: "inspiration", "submissions", "feedback", "refinement", "evaluation", "winners"	Dec 12 21:07
cubexyz	3.7.10 kernel, seems pretty recent	Dec 12 21:08
jgay	and I wondered if ther emight be a way to sort of decentralize that process ... or bake it into a plaftorm that people can use and make their own	Dec 12 21:08
cubexyz	it's pretty fast too, the live cd comes with icewm	Dec 12 21:09
jgay	jono, anyhow, maybe I should formulate my thoughts more coherently in a blog post or something. If you don't knwo what I'm even talking about check it out, https://newschallenge.org/challenge/libraries/refinement	Dec 12 21:09
cubexyz	I'm liking it so far	Dec 12 21:09
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roy_	icewm is quite ok for its size	Dec 12 21:09
roy_	I used it for a while recently	Dec 12 21:09
roy_	and openbox, lxde, e17	Dec 12 21:09
roy_	twm is the worst	Dec 12 21:09
jono	jgay, news challenges?	Dec 12 21:10
jgay	jono, https://newschallenge.org/faq	Dec 12 21:10
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jono	jgay, will check it out in a sec, thanks!	Dec 12 21:10
MinceR	220317 < jono> Gates was just wanted to build cool tech at MS	Dec 12 21:11
MinceR	in that case, he failed.	Dec 12 21:11
MinceR	hard.	Dec 12 21:11
MinceR	and i'm sure the work of the gates foundation is really valuable to microsoft	Dec 12 21:12
cubexyz	it's about control of the desktops	Dec 12 21:13
cubexyz	which is slipping finally	Dec 12 21:13
MinceR	which might be why poettering & co. decided to destroy gnu/linux just now	Dec 12 21:14
cubexyz	no systemd in antix :)	Dec 12 21:14
cubexyz	it just how things evolve	Dec 12 21:19
cubexyz	once I was a staunch user of Fedora...	Dec 12 21:19
cubexyz	now I'm a slackware adherent	Dec 12 21:19
MinceR	i'm getting tired of hopping distros to dodge the stupid	Dec 12 21:19
MinceR	hopefully bedrock will fix that for me	Dec 12 21:20
cubexyz	slackware and derivatives	Dec 12 21:20
cubexyz	MincerDistro :)	Dec 12 21:20
MinceR	also, it's sad that sjvn became a systemd shill	Dec 12 21:25
cubexyz	really? hmmm	Dec 12 21:25
MinceR	http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/	Dec 12 21:25
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5291861	Dec 12 21:38
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roy_	"for the past three years I keep talking we need comunication infrastructure independent of state or corporate ownership."	Dec 12 21:38
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5292158	Dec 12 21:39
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roy_	"How often does that happen?"	Dec 12 21:39
roy_	I heard about it happening in the US quite a few times, but today I heard about London...	Dec 12 21:39
MinceR	obviously we need to paint drones with texts saying "allahu akbar" and drive them into planes. :>	Dec 12 21:39
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msb_	MinceR: sjvn's article on systemd does not make him a shill for it at all.	Dec 12 23:05
MinceR	to me, it read as it was written from the perspective of someone who totally bought into systemd and has no understanding why anyone would want to avoid it	Dec 12 23:06
msb_	He describes the problems with it, has Torvalds' and Tso's comments, and wants devs to create an alternative.	Dec 12 23:06
msb_	Are we reading the same article?	Dec 12 23:07
MinceR	i read the article i linked.	Dec 12 23:07
msb_	http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/	Dec 12 23:07
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MinceR	and there already are alternatives, including sysvinit.	Dec 12 23:07
msb_	"If systemd really does turn out to be as bad as some developers fear, there are plenty of replacements waiting in the wings. Indeed, rather than hear so much about how awful systemd is, I'd rather see developers spending their time working on an alternative."	Dec 12 23:08
msb_	He doesn't say OMG the sky is falling, but does cover the territory, and the diagram at the beginning shows how much systemd has taken over.	Dec 12 23:10
msb_	I sure wish Linus would come out against it, though.	Dec 12 23:11
MinceR	he's pretending sysvinit doesn't exist	Dec 12 23:11
MinceR	yeah, right now it looks like Linus will let them soil the kernel with crap such as kdbus.	Dec 12 23:11
msb_	yep	Dec 12 23:11
MinceR	pretending sysvinit doesn't exist is a tired poetteringite tactic.	Dec 12 23:12
msb_	Well, they say it has problems -- I don't know what.	Dec 12 23:12
MinceR	"to replace systemd, you'd have to develop something totally new, you can't live without systemd now!"	Dec 12 23:12
cubexyz	heh, I run some pre-sysvinit stuff	Dec 12 23:13
MinceR	yes, it has the problems of being interchangeable with other init systems and not being controlled by the poettering cult	Dec 12 23:13
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MinceR	applications won't mind if you're running sysvinit, bsd init, runit, sinit or whatever	Dec 12 23:13
MinceR	but they're trying to move us to a world where everything depends on systemd or is part of systemd	Dec 12 23:13
MinceR	try to switch init systems then	Dec 12 23:13
msb_	People should start using "poettering" as a verb, meaning invading and sabotaging.	Dec 12 23:14
MinceR	:>	Dec 12 23:14
MinceR	or just "poetter", "poettering" being the infinitive	Dec 12 23:15
msb_	yes	Dec 12 23:15
roy_	lol	Dec 12 23:15
roy_	I forgot to mention that our new neighbours are actually quite jolly and awesome. They're quiet, polite, and we're already receiving good quality Christmas card from many of them, even those across the road and several houses down the road. Some know our names somehow.	Dec 12 23:15
MinceR	creepy :>	Dec 12 23:15
msb_	Where are you living?	Dec 12 23:16
cubexyz	it's kind of plain but it's fast:	Dec 12 23:16
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/antix-desktop.jpg	Dec 12 23:16
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msb_	cubexyz: can it have 20 virtual desktops with names in the switcher applet?	Dec 12 23:20
cubexyz	icewm defaults to 4 virtual desktops	Dec 12 23:20
cubexyz	I don't know enough about icewm to say, but I don't see why not	Dec 12 23:22
msb_	With the windows in each desktop persistent across reboots? That's a hard requirement for me. Makes life much easier.	Dec 12 23:22
MinceR	msb_: if nothing else, you could use fvwm and hack one of the pagers if necessary :>	Dec 12 23:22
msb_	As long as I have a hard drive and not an SSD, KDE3 or Trinity is fine.	Dec 12 23:23
MinceR	why not an SSD?	Dec 12 23:23
msb_	Space is more expensive.	Dec 12 23:24
cubexyz	I like minimalist low-memory systems	Dec 12 23:24
roy_	msb_: manchester	Dec 12 23:24
cubexyz	but I know that's not everyone's cup of tea	Dec 12 23:24
msb_	I want a real keyboard, and a pretty big screen, so laptop is as small as I want to go.	Dec 12 23:25
msb_	Unless the Apocalypse comes, fries all the electronics, and we have to make our own chips, I don't find any need for minimalist.	Dec 12 23:26
cubexyz	the reasoning for it is simple: less pollution	Dec 12 23:26
msb_	What kind of pollution?	Dec 12 23:26
MinceR	don't old computers use more power? :>	Dec 12 23:26
cubexyz	no, that's a myth	Dec 12 23:26
cubexyz	depends on which cpu	Dec 12 23:27
cubexyz	coppermine p3's were fairly power efficient	Dec 12 23:27
cubexyz	msb_, obviously pollution caused by chip fabrication	Dec 12 23:28
cubexyz	e.g. trichloroethylene	Dec 12 23:28
cubexyz	of course, the power use could be offset by solar panels or whatever, it's not too critical	Dec 12 23:29
cubexyz	now PDP-11's were a different story	Dec 12 23:29
cubexyz	I'd never say use a PDP-11 as your main computer :)	Dec 12 23:30
msb_	I just read that Germany sometimes gets half its power from solar -- IIRC -- I can't find the email.	Dec 12 23:30
cubexyz	basically my philosophy is to fix computers and keep them working as long as possible	Dec 12 23:30
cubexyz	LCD's are quite repairable	Dec 12 23:30
msb_	And solar cell efficiency has just reached 40%, and that's with cells that can use concentrated light.	Dec 12 23:31
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cubexyz	some old computers didn't use plastic for the case	Dec 12 23:32
cubexyz	but that's rare	Dec 12 23:32
msb_	My computer is a dual-core AMD with 8GB, and it can play HEVC/x265 videos, so I have no need to upgrade.	Dec 12 23:32
cubexyz	slot 1 also had some of the best heat dissipation	Dec 12 23:33
cubexyz	tech as regressed in that regard	Dec 12 23:33
cubexyz	I see laptops with heat damage all the time	Dec 12 23:34
msb_	I think its better to go to non-polluting energy, like solar, cold-fusion/CANR, or even well-designed fission, rather than restrict everyone's energy usage to the point of making life difficult.	Dec 12 23:35
cubexyz	over use of plastics is a big problem	Dec 12 23:35
msb_	But we burn far more oil for energy than we use for making plastics.	Dec 12 23:36
cubexyz	in general perhaps, I do a lot of walking :)	Dec 12 23:36
msb_	I might like a wearable computer, with VR goggles and a keyboard in one pocket and the guts in another.	Dec 12 23:38
msb_	Very lightweight goggles.	Dec 12 23:38
cubexyz	oil is a problem, totally agree	Dec 12 23:38
msb_	It should not be burned.	Dec 12 23:39
cubexyz	oil spills? terrible	Dec 12 23:39
msb_	Non-polluting energy generation, plus batteries or hydrogen for cars.	Dec 12 23:39
cubexyz	I'm a big re-user of old stuff so that helps	Dec 12 23:39
roy_	https://twitter.com/Mark_Antony/status/543018956647591937	Dec 12 23:40
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msb_	Lots of production of useless stuff in wealthy countries is because capitalism is tied to a 40 hour work week. So to keep people employed, even though technology does most of the work, requires production of lots of unneeded goods.	Dec 12 23:42
cubexyz	how many models of iphones were there? 5? 6?	Dec 12 23:43
msb_	Ultimately, we need socialism, about a 10 hour work week, a huge tax on wealth, and a comfortable lifestyle -- neither restrictive nor conspicuous-consumption,	Dec 12 23:44
cubexyz	msb_, I don't mind working more than 10 hours per week	Dec 12 23:45
msb_	That would work for the entire world population.	Dec 12 23:45
cubexyz	I'd probably go crazy if I didn't	Dec 12 23:45
msb_	cubexyz: Fine, if you want to.	Dec 12 23:45
roy_	Interesting that the anti-Assange 'comedy' is written by this man: http://greekemmy.com/2014/12/11/bbc-writer-thom-phipps-advocates-the-murder-of-julian-assange/	Dec 12 23:46
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msb_	There's enough going on in the world that just reading about it or watching videos of it is more than I have time for, and I'm retired.	Dec 12 23:46
msb_	I wish I had time to do more programming!	Dec 12 23:47
cubexyz	just checking out new distros could be a full time job :)	Dec 12 23:47
msb_	Yup. I only need the one.	Dec 12 23:48
cubexyz	programming does require a fair amount of mental energy	Dec 12 23:49
cubexyz	it's a question of prioritizing	Dec 12 23:49
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msb_	I've found a perfect food: pizza with beef (with the fat blotted off), provolone, artichoke hearts, mushrooms, roasted garlic, tomato sauce. And they deliver!	Dec 12 23:50
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msb_	I want to write my own editor, based on BRIEF, but instead of an interpreted language for extensions, you just write them in C or Ruby, compile them and re-link.	Dec 12 23:51
msb_	Should be very small and simple, and on modern computers, re-linking only takes a couple of seconds.	Dec 12 23:53
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cubexyz	ooo, there's a site selling thinkpads with coreboot	Dec 13 01:49
cubexyz	no stock though... hmmm	Dec 13 01:50
cubexyz	T60 and X60	Dec 13 01:53
cubexyz	I qw	Dec 13 01:54
cubexyz	oops	Dec 13 01:54
cubexyz	evidently that's what Stallman is using these days: a thinkpad x60 with libreboot (coreboot)	Dec 13 01:59
cubexyz	and Trisquel	Dec 13 01:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.5.0 Officially Released	Dec 13 03:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear update: Everything you need to	Dec 13 03:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside CoreOS Linux, Why Fleet and etcd Matter	Dec 13 09:33
TweetTuxMachines	[VIDEO] http://t.co/TCDLSQ2DDp	Dec 13 09:33
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MinceR	http://fi8.eu.apcdn.com/full/126411.jpg	Dec 13 13:25
cubexyz	why not just put Sauron in there? :)	Dec 13 13:30
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 13:36
MinceR	the windows logo matches the swastika better	Dec 13 13:37
roy	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/13/us/politics/amid-details-on-torture-data-on-26-held-in-error-.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share	Dec 13 13:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@bickart The Jeff Bickart CRM Daily is out!	Dec 13 15:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/acFKpadwnJ (paper.li) Stories via	Dec 13 15:22
TweetTuxMachines	@Urdhvatech @tuxmachines @AUSComplaints	Dec 13 15:22
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MinceR	also, sauron wouldn't be evil enough for m$	Dec 13 16:01
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roy	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294953	Dec 13 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jaywink@iliketoast.net: Meh, my #Firefox is somehow completely broken. Weird rendering sometimes, page resets to top on random, HTML5 reveal.js slides don't work, home/end buttons don't work. Tried remove/reinstall, no help. Trued stable, beta and developer edition - all the same. Any tips? What dependant libraries could cause this on #Ubuntu? Chromium is fine, everything sweet.		Dec 13 16:35
roy	I am moving back to Rekonq. Firefox conf went crazy for me.	Dec 13 16:35
MinceR	try making a new profile?	Dec 13 16:36
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFC	Great news! The author of the Seatab-X extension for Mozilla SeaMonkey has decided to release his extension under version 2.0 of the Mozilla Public License, which makes the extension Free and open-source software, and which also automatically makes the license compatible with the GNU General Public License.	Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFC	Now you can have close tab buttons in your Seamonkey browser without installing proprietary software.	Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFC	The new maintainer is hosting the extension on the official Mozilla add-ons site.	Dec 13 17:02
DaemonFC	https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/seatab-x-2/	Dec 13 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org \| SeaTab-X-2 :: Add-ons for SeaMonkey [ http://ur1.ca/hno5e ]		Dec 13 17:02
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 17:07
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*Now talking on #techrights		Dec 13 17:24
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Dec 13 17:24
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 17:16:19 2012		Dec 13 17:24
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	2 mins · Edited ·	Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/12/anti-gay-n-c-church-members-indicted-on-felony-kidnapping-assault-of-gay-man/	Dec 13 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lgbtqnation.com \| Anti-gay N.C. church members indicted on felony kidnapping, assault of gay man – LGBTQ Nation [ http://ur1.ca/j3w79 ]		Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	"In 1995, the church was the subject of an "Inside Edition" report on its "blasting" techniques, in which a person is encircled by church members and subjected to high-pitched shrilling sounds, screams and prayers. Blasting sessions can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours."	Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	Sounds legit....	Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC	Mason von Mason says:	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	RT isn't going to like this!	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	Reich Thinking, Bowel Movement, and Remarkably Stupid Bastard definitely will not approve.	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	I've got my retard flame retardant underwear on standby.	Dec 13 18:03
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC	MinceR: I decided that while I'm working on rebuilding my new computer, I'm just going to forget about trying to get Microsoft to reactivate my copy of Windows.	Dec 13 18:04
DaemonFC	In the two hours on the phone arguing with them about it, I could just install Fedora and have everything copied over.	Dec 13 18:05
DaemonFC	I tried out Fedora 21 on my Core i7/R9 270X and it ran great, even with just open source drivers.	Dec 13 18:05
MinceR	:>	Dec 13 18:06
DaemonFC	So, I don't think I really need any proprietary software in the kernel anymore.	Dec 13 18:06
DaemonFC	Proprietary video drivers are basically the cause of upwards of 90% of your Linux frustrations these days anyway.	Dec 13 18:06
DaemonFC	The proportional share grows as the quality of the rest of the Linux distributions gets better.	Dec 13 18:07
MinceR	until systemd shits itself, as it's bound to do. :>	Dec 13 18:07
DaemonFC	Nah. I've never had any real problems with systemd.	Dec 13 18:07
MinceR	not yet, you mean	Dec 13 18:07
DaemonFC	I did have a lot of problems with Pulseaudio when it was new-ish.	Dec 13 18:07
DaemonFC	So many problems that I gave up and went back to using Windows XP x64 Edition for a while while things settled down.	Dec 13 18:08
MinceR	pulseaudio couldn't hang your system, though.	Dec 13 18:08
DaemonFC	The hell it couldn't.	Dec 13 18:08
DaemonFC	Have you ever tried using ALSA-OSS with Pulseaudio running?	Dec 13 18:08
DaemonFC	Well, that would be a moot point now anyway. Fedora and Ubuntu have deactivated the OSS 3 compatibility layer anyway.	Dec 13 18:09
MinceR	i haven't	Dec 13 18:09
DaemonFC	To get OSS emulation back, you're going to need a custom kernel.	Dec 13 18:09
DaemonFC	It makes a few old apps lose their sound, but I can see why they made this move.	Dec 13 18:09
DaemonFC	Some proprietary application developers were still writing new apps using the OSS 3 API, and they can't get away with that now, so they stopped.	Dec 13 18:10
MinceR	http://www.theonion.com/articles/rising-income-inequality-causing-wealthy-americans,37652/	Dec 13 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com \| Rising Income Inequality Causing Wealthy Americans To Take On Second Sailboat \| The Onion - America's Finest News Source [ http://ur1.ca/j3wbw ]		Dec 13 18:19
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294434	Dec 13 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not only the #uk has multiple #nsa bases (paid for and operated by the #us to spy on us) http://rt.com/in-motion/213151-berlin-nsa-spy-station/ #germany #imperialism #us		Dec 13 18:34
schestowitz	"Any country that hosts a US military base should be considered a US protectorate, Germany, Poland, even #Greece (unfortunately)."	Dec 13 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rt.com \| Drone footage of former NSA spy station in Germany — RT In motion [ http://ur1.ca/j3wgk ]		Dec 13 18:34
schestowitz	Leadership chosen by surveillance and bribe	Dec 13 18:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294617	Dec 13 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa hoards all data from everyone not because everyone is suspected of a crime but because people easily controlled through blackmail. #mlk		Dec 13 18:35
schestowitz	"Among the blackmail victims possibly Merkel ,Oland and other leaders who were being spied on..."	Dec 13 18:35
schestowitz	If she knows she is being watched, she will "behave" (subservient to US)	Dec 13 18:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294329	Dec 13 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #schmidt did not care about #privacy until it hurt his shares' value http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/internet/3590906/schmidt-nsa-revelations-forced-google-to-lock-down-data/ http://thehill.com/policy/technology/226962-google-head-we-dont-spy-on-you		Dec 13 18:37
schestowitz	"Let us all start a crowd-funding campaign to help Google against the evil NSA."	Dec 13 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| Schmidt: NSA revelations forced Google to lock down data - PC Advisor [ http://ur1.ca/j3wh7 ]		Dec 13 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thehill.com \| Google: We don’t spy on you \| TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/j3wha ]		Dec 13 18:37
schestowitz	As if....	Dec 13 18:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5292657	Dec 13 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Researchers 'Averaged' The Faces Of 400 CEOs — And The Results Say A Lot About Race In Business http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-average-face-of-400-ceos-2014-12?r=US #whiteprivilege #pr		Dec 13 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com \| The Average Face Of 400 CEOs - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/j3whj ]		Dec 13 18:38
schestowitz	"Woman looks Russian :-)."	Dec 13 18:38
schestowitz	Caucasians are projecting trust among much of the world	Dec 13 18:38
DaemonFC	Well, at least this 10 year old Dell craputer with Windoze XP can run Gens.	Dec 13 18:54
DaemonFC	Old DOS games and stuff.	Dec 13 18:54
DaemonFC	sigh	Dec 13 18:54
DaemonFC	I'm going to go nuts if I can't get my Core i7 system back up and running.	Dec 13 18:55
DaemonFC	This old Celery processor can't even play Youtube videos smoothly.	Dec 13 18:55
DaemonFC	I went to install HexChat and it told me it doesn't support Windows XP anymore.	Dec 13 18:56
DaemonFC	So I'm using ChatZilla.	Dec 13 18:56
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	http://www.alternet.org/week-religion-kentucky-govt-finally-cuts-subsidies-noahs-ark-museum	Dec 13 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org \| This Week in Religion: Kentucky Govt Finally Cuts Off Subsidies to Noah's Ark Museum \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/j3xbf ]		Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	Ken Ham bought a billboard saying "Thank God you can't sink this ship.".	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	Technically, you can't sink a ship that's nowhere near water. I'm not sure why you'd thank God for that unless you're an idiot that built a ship that was nowhere near water.	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	In all seriousness, the fact that the taxpayer giveaway of $18 million was ever on the table is horrible. How many hungry people in Kentucky could be fed with $18 million? Instead, the state was seriously floating (no pun intended) the idea of subsidizing a for-profit Noah's Ark replica, designed to lure in gullible fools who believe that the biblical flood actually happened.	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	nameinuse says:	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	With global warming and all maybe it wiil be useful eventually.	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	Well, that brings us to the next obvious statement.	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	"Thank God you can't sink this ship" -Titanic victims. And that thing was made out of metal! B-)	Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC	nameinuse says:	Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFC	Theirs is made out of faith. Just like chemotherapy.	Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFC	Their faith is so weak that they feel the need to lash out irrationally and sometimes violently at people who question it.	Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFC	I can't imagine anything that frail managing to hold a ship together. ;)	Dec 13 20:21
MinceR	:>	Dec 13 20:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source	Dec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Benchmarking Test Farm	Dec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ivoYP4xj1W (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 20:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source Linux Benchmarking Test Farm \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qgttPJ6gPY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 21:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Week in Techrights http://t.co/4qBuhzB9hV	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xvu	Dec 13 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	Repos http://t.co/jUM49mkjPd	Dec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 13 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official Repos - Softpedia		Dec 13 21:24
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MinceR	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwMzg	Dec 13 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] An Exploit In GNOME Shell With Systemd? [ http://ur1.ca/j3xwy ]		Dec 13 21:28
MinceR	unfixed for a year	Dec 13 21:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Original Strife: Veteran Edition, The	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	Original FPS & RPG Hybrid On Steam For Linux,	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	We Have Keys http://t.co/YkbLMTTC0V	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xys	Dec 13 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Original Strife: Veteran Edition, The Original FPS & RPG Hybrid On Steam For Linux, We Have Keys \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "GNU/Linux continues its takeoff. There’s	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	growth everywhere and it’s increasing."	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5rR8SOrId4 (mrpogson.com)	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xyt	Dec 13 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| The Good News Just Keeps Flowing \| Robert Pogson		Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Week in Techrights http://t.co/8BPRFyjjbp	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xyw	Dec 13 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	Repos http://t.co/0tH4Uls1Ud	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xzh	Dec 13 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official Repos \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	Launch On Linux, Sorta (UPDATED)	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yHjxHaqykV (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xzi	Dec 13 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux Launch On Linux, Sorta (UPDATED) \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 13 21:38
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sebsebseb	hi	Dec 13 21:48
MinceR	hay	Dec 13 21:50
sebsebseb	MinceR: hi	Dec 13 21:50
sebsebseb	MinceR: a thing on TV about Apple on Thursday	Dec 13 21:51
sebsebseb	oh jono is in here :d	Dec 13 21:51
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sebsebseb	well was in here then	Dec 13 21:51
MinceR	lol	Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz	> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2859122/your-linux-pc-isnt-as-secure-as-you-think-it-is.html	Dec 13 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| Your Linux PC isn't as secure as you think it is \| PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/j3y3i ]		Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz	>	Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz	> trollin	Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz	Seen that. I don't think the author can be dubbed troll though, given his background. I just let the first comment speak out...	Dec 13 21:53
MinceR	sebsebseb: you scared him away nicely, could do that more often ;)	Dec 13 21:54
schestowitz	> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/e-regulation/berners-lee-erosion-web-freedoms-157386	Dec 13 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk \| Sir Tim Berners-Lee Warns Of Erosion Of Web Freedoms [ http://ur1.ca/j3y4y ]		Dec 13 21:58
schestowitz	>	Dec 13 21:58
schestowitz	> Still does not match his endorsement of DRM	Dec 13 21:58
MinceR	lol	Dec 13 21:59
MinceR	emperor tim berners-lee warns us that he has eroded web freedoms!	Dec 13 21:59
MinceR	thank you, tim berners-lee, we haven't noticed!	Dec 13 21:59
schestowitz	lol	Dec 13 22:04
schestowitz	http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Facebook-Dumps-Microsoft-MSFT-FB-4825740.php	Dec 13 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com \| Facebook Dumps Microsoft (MSFT, FB) - SFGate [ http://ur1.ca/j3y6o ]		Dec 13 22:05
MinceR	does this mean m$ no longer gets a live feed of dumbFuckBook users' personal data? :>	Dec 13 22:07
schestowitz	> http://michigandaily.com/news/levin-highlights-bipartisanship-farewell-address	Dec 13 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michigandaily.com \| Levin highlights bipartisanship in farewell address - The Michigan Daily [ http://ur1.ca/j3y7m ]		Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz	>	Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz	> He was great and was often in international news for the good things he	Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz	> was doing.	Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz	I remember him for many reasons, mostly good.	Dec 13 22:09
*TweetTuxMachines @omicron6 favourited 'Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux...'		Dec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyberpunk RTS Satellite Reign Arrives on Steam	Dec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux http://t.co/JDl3cs97Wp	Dec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 13 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Cyberpunk RTS Satellite Reign Arrives on Steam for Linux - Softpedia		Dec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3y9i	Dec 13 22:17
*TweetTuxMachines @7point11 followed @tuxmachines		Dec 13 22:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/deena651us/status/543896987649601536	Dec 13 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deena651us: True “@schestowitz: #drones strikes, torture wars of conquest. r th fuel of #terrorism just ask recruit of violent groups why they r joining		Dec 13 22:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon Edition : Video	Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	Overview and Screenshot Tours	Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8aQ4jZjsFd (linuxscoop.com)	Dec 13 22:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines When android software comes to rizen linux	Dec 13 22:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail	Dec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	SoCs http://t.co/qY1AKfSydO (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 13 22:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear “Lollipop” First Look and Tour!	Dec 13 22:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nautilus Ported To New GTK Widgets For GNOME	Dec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines	3.16 http://t.co/BecPXWKfwJ (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 13 22:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SparkyLinux 3.6 "Annagerman" Lands with LXDE,	Dec 13 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	MATE, Razor-Qt, and Xfce Flavors	Dec 13 22:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside CoreOS Linux, Why Fleet and etcd Matter	Dec 13 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines	(mobile.serverwatch.com)	Dec 13 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source	Dec 13 22:56
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Benchmarking Test Farm	Dec 13 22:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0dnNMUUvHO (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 13 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture	Dec 13 23:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail	Dec 13 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	SoCs http://t.co/4MUr7i7lOY	Dec 13 23:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Crowdfunding a USB-stick-sized, GNU/Linux-ready	Dec 13 23:14
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cubexyz	schestowitz, or whoever is reading...	Dec 07 02:28
cubexyz	I had to explicitly block some microsoft urls from my adsense	Dec 07 02:28
cubexyz	I saw a few "upgrade to windows 8.1" ads on my blog	Dec 07 02:29
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5264523	Dec 07 03:13
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schestowitz__	"cute kitten dreams of nothing but murder all day."	Dec 07 03:14
schestowitz__	cubexyz: that's their target audience	Dec 07 03:14
schestowitz__	trying to convert the other side	Dec 07 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/Vem7P0AjdR	Dec 07 03:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ubuntu and canonical Chasing the wrong problems	Dec 07 03:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OXNMv1DHyE (benjaminkerensa.com)	Dec 07 03:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FirefoxOS tethering in action	Dec 07 03:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up	Dec 07 03:36
TweetTuxMachines	Arch Linux http://t.co/G7iyCrqEZ9	Dec 07 03:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chasing the wrong problems	Dec 07 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UVQoUwh5yh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 04:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up	Dec 07 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	Arch Linux http://t.co/PeerV7QPSj	Dec 07 04:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,	Dec 07 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/JG2PqCUvKQ	Dec 07 04:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/541544986379300864	Dec 07 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz what is remarkable is that even their censored truth is too damaging to release...that says a lot right there.		Dec 07 05:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Continues its March into the	Dec 07 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprise http://t.co/chBpBYSVcI	Dec 07 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 06:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source Continues its March into the Enterprise \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pydio: open source alternative to Dropbox & Box	Dec 07 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LQgXwdBu1y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1cbx	Dec 07 06:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,	Dec 07 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/nvzE8AI6ib	Dec 07 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 06:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/metacode/status/541554416491696129	Dec 07 06:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@metacode: Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop http://t.co/ZKGCGKW9cN (@schestowitz) "The Babe of Neoliberalism"		Dec 07 06:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ukprogressive.co.uk \| Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop \| UK Progressive		Dec 07 06:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541558895265607681	Dec 07 06:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz And thank you to @timberners_lee for the HTML groundwork. Adobe DRM will still be in HTML5 but that's better than #adobe Trash.		Dec 07 06:48
schestowitz	No, @timberners_lee messed up in a very big way by endorsing #drm in #html5 after #mpaa had paid #w3c	Dec 07 06:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541561640601149440	Dec 07 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I said thanks to him for HTML. I'm not convinced DRM can be kept out of HTML5. Regardless, better than Flash.		Dec 07 06:57
schestowitz	It was already out of HTML. Then came HTML5 and with support from TimBL and Mozilla (among others) DRM got in.	Dec 07 06:58
DaemonFC	schestowitz, A friend's iPhone got hijacked by malware and started sending me pornographic spam on Facebook.	Dec 07 06:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840 https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566316067295233 https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566614290706432	Dec 07 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not exist		Dec 07 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I think this is a compromise that at least can help us throw out the Trash. But I understand why it's not ideal		Dec 07 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: .@schestowitz @timberners_lee Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?		Dec 07 07:42
schestowitz	DaemonFC: was the pr0n at least good, or just some spam URLs?	Dec 07 07:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840	Dec 07 07:43
schestowitz	"Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?"	Dec 07 07:43
DaemonFC	Stuff like "Hook up with women in your local area."	Dec 07 07:43
DaemonFC	That link is dead, according to Twitter.	Dec 07 07:44
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schestowitz	.@petrock I don't think DRM is needed at all, except by the copyright monopoly, which we don't need (should adapt to - not tame - WWW)	Dec 07 07:45
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/5415893284936https://twitter.com/petrock/status/54158932849369088090880	Dec 07 09:17
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schestowitz	No, common error. DRM exists in some areas, but in others it struggles to gain traction, e.g. Web. Tim B-L ushered it in.	Dec 07 09:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541599086319640576	Dec 07 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz In practice, people are installing "Trash" to access media served through the web browser. Isn't this better if not perfect?		Dec 07 09:42
schestowitz	People installed Trash to play YouTube (they no longer need to do this). I don't know people using it for DRM stuff (rarity)	Dec 07 09:43
MinceR	even for videos with ads?	Dec 07 09:47
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541604604903825408	Dec 07 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I know a lot of people who use Trash to stream movies and sports. Youtube is a big player but not the only big player.		Dec 07 09:50
schestowitz	MinceR: meh	Dec 07 09:50
schestowitz	either way, we don't rely much on DRM	Dec 07 09:51
schestowitz	streams and DRM are separate things	Dec 07 09:51
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schestowitz	"I don't know who are your usual sources around the EPO. Check with them in case you have doubts on the authenticity. This is my first and last email ever."	Dec 07 10:54
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856	Dec 07 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.		Dec 07 13:48
schestowitz__	the only thing that doesn't work yet is pausing a video and resuming it a long time later, like the next day; it plays for a while (what's still cached in the buffer) and then displays an error. With flash it reloads the vid and resumes playing; not very beautiful either but at least it works""	Dec 07 13:48
schestowitz__	"I'm glad to see that Flash is no longer required. As good as the plug-in might be for some, especially for streaming TV channels, it opens up a can of worms in the form of invasive advertisements."	Dec 07 13:49
schestowitz__	"So Youtube's no skip ads are only their own design???"	Dec 07 13:49
schestowitz__	"With a plug-in like Ghostery, which blocks tracking cookies, the "no skip" ads don't come up."	Dec 07 13:49
schestowitz__	"Thanks for that, and when I have an up to date real Chrome, (my defunct Linux distro has an ancient Chromium that Google Play refuses to talk to), and I have bandwidth of my own, I may get it. Still, are there NO free lunches left in this world?"	Dec 07 13:49
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265594	Dec 07 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "if the report is not released in a way [Udall] deems transparent, he would consider all options to make it public " http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115		Dec 07 13:50
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.esquire.com \| Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]		Dec 07 13:50
schestowitz__	Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.	Dec 07 13:50
schestowitz__	My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'	Dec 07 13:50
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 13:50
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5251963	Dec 07 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google Can Now Tell You’re Not a Robot With Just One Click http://www.wired.com/2014/12/google-one-click-recaptcha/ #google #security #captcha		Dec 07 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com \| Google Can Now Tell You're Not a Robot With Just One Click \| WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/j1feq ]		Dec 07 13:51
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 13:51
schestowitz__	Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.	Dec 07 13:51
schestowitz__	My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'	Dec 07 13:51
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 13:51
schestowitz__	Which magically makes them "good" for privacy	Dec 07 13:51
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5263442	Dec 07 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: B&N should take #microsoft to court again, both for #extortion and for #bribery http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-barnes-noble-end-nook-marriage-for-62-million/ http://techrights.org/2014/12/06/bribes-against-linux/		Dec 07 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com \| Microsoft, B&N dissolve Nook marriage for $62 million - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffd ]		Dec 07 13:53
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 13:53
schestowitz__	Oh wait, I forgot about the $1.7 billion dollar share of B&N that Microsoft stole as part of their "deal". Was that announced at the time or did they play some kind of shell game where the value only became evident as Microsoft unloaded the shares onto "institutional investors" who strangely enough think it's worthless today? The $300 in cash may still have served as a bribe despite the larger cost to B&N shareholders. Board members	Dec 07 13:53
schestowitz__	and executives would have been paid off with it.	Dec 07 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| The Threat is Not Over: Microsoft Bribes Against Linux Adoption and in Favour of Extortion Against Linux \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j189l ]		Dec 07 13:53
schestowitz__	Now Microsoft is handing themselves another $67 million and CNet spins that as Nook being worthless. After Microsoft ruined them it might be, but that's not an inherent problem or the nature of things.	Dec 07 13:53
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 13:53
schestowitz__	"Rape labeled "marriage" in article."	Dec 07 13:53
schestowitz__	The power of spin	Dec 07 13:53
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5259958	Dec 07 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2014/court-ruling-paves-the-way-for-european-court-of-human-rights-to-consider-%E2%80%9Cprivacy-not-prism%E2%80%9D-case #privacy #prism		Dec 07 13:54
schestowitz__	"Governments have abandoned brutality? Or just made it less public and gory? I lived in China for 12 years. There brutality is present and endemic in both the governed and the government."	Dec 07 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffr ]		Dec 07 13:54
schestowitz__	I was responding to the first comment	Dec 07 13:55
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265940	Dec 07 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whether the Senate ends up 'declassifying' (publishing) the whole #torture report, #wyden #udall or some unknown source will 'leak' it		Dec 07 13:56
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 13:56
schestowitz__	This feels a bit too evasive to me:	Dec 07 13:56
schestowitz__	http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115	Dec 07 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esquire.com \| Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]		Dec 07 13:56
schestowitz__	"	Dec 07 13:56
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265879	Dec 07 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #udall does not need to do much except read out the blacked out bits in the Senate's #torture report. Someone will transcribe, merge.		Dec 07 13:56
schestowitz__	"My impression is that this 'reading' isn't even anywhere as hard as it sounds. He just has to give the word, and they'll put it in the Congressional Record."	Dec 07 13:56
schestowitz__	Even better than	Dec 07 13:56
schestowitz__	then	Dec 07 13:57
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265507	Dec 07 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The thing terror cells should fear most is the end of drone strikes and other such violations of intl' law as it would impede their growth		Dec 07 13:57
schestowitz__	"Indeed. It must have been hard not to notice the symbiotic relationship between Osama bin Laden and George W. Bush that existed for a few years immediately following 9/11. Obama seems unable to pull that off so that he, rather than just the insurgents, enjoys a propaganda benefit."	Dec 07 13:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live !	Dec 07 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/tj4qwL4mIH (makululinux.com)	Dec 07 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1gti	Dec 07 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-makululinux.com \| MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live ! \| MakuluLinux		Dec 07 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In	Dec 07 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/JEu5mugwWC	Dec 07 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1gtj	Dec 07 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19		Dec 07 17:13
schestowitz__	cubelog1: http://cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/order-linux-discs.html	Dec 07 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk \| Notes on Linux: Order Linux Discs [ http://ur1.ca/j1gty ]		Dec 07 17:14
schestowitz__	"Avoid Systemd by trying AntiX, Slackware or OpenBSD."	Dec 07 17:14
schestowitz__	Do you dislike it this much?	Dec 07 17:14
schestowitz__	cubexyz ^	Dec 07 17:14
schestowitz__	http://www.xombra.com/index.php?do=noticias&nota=6711&op=4&t=xanadu-gnu-linux-busca-beta-te	Dec 07 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xombra.com \| Xanadu GNU/Linux busca beta testers! - xombra.com [ http://ur1.ca/j1gu5 ]		Dec 07 17:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,	Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	But Still Tough Catalyst Fight	Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7dY7UqR9Gv (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqe	Dec 07 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight Review		Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage	Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)	Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lGmS2PH0tm (www.mobilenapps.com)	Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqf	Dec 07 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobilenapps.com \| UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) : Mobile : Mobile & Apps		Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In	Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/xCSCBttZma	Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqg	Dec 07 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19 \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,	Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	But Still Tough Catalyst Fight	Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4QIsXIINRk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqm	Dec 07 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage	Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)	Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Q4dmnDVSAr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqn	Dec 07 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released	Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NINpPoLx2E (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 17:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1hqo	Dec 07 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 17:58
cubexyz	schestowitz, personally yes	Dec 07 18:31
cubexyz	I'm merely pointing out alternatives	Dec 07 18:31
cubexyz	AntiX looks interesting	Dec 07 18:32
cubexyz	the younger linux users seem more in favour of systemd	Dec 07 18:33
cubexyz	if you want systemd there are tons of distros out there to choose from	Dec 07 18:34
cubexyz	if you want to avoid systemd one needs to be more particular	Dec 07 18:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs	Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	Editions Officially Released	Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AJrEi1rYYC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1in7	Dec 07 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steve Kemp (Debian): "I had to fight with the	Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	Debian installer to get the beast working"	Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PxOCHCnMdv (blog.steve.org.uk)	Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1ind	Dec 07 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.org.uk \| I eventually installed Debian on a new desktop.		Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best	Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review	Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/MfU7aDqmmD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1ing	Dec 07 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 18:39
cubexyz	I don't like distros that drop support for 32-bit cpus or that look bad on 4:3 screens	Dec 07 18:40
cubexyz	but that's another blog post for later	Dec 07 18:40
cubexyz	even dropping 486 support is bad I'd say	Dec 07 18:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released	Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lC2FzbPyrp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1j30	Dec 07 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for	Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/2jUhAASGWp	Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1j33	Dec 07 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for Ubuntu Touch \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Prisoners learning how to code with Linux	Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/m2wPj0zvk3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1j35	Dec 07 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Prisoners learning how to code with Linux \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill	Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	to developers http://t.co/sADvpoOior	Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jfl	Dec 07 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming	Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	To The Galaxy S5 http://t.co/6gIUH1Iczk	Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jfm	Dec 07 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming To The Galaxy S5 \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Og Maciel: "today is my 3-year anniversary at	Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat!"	Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UT15phTPEF (omaciel.github.io)	Dec 07 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jfn	Dec 07 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-omaciel.github.io \| Three Years and Counting!		Dec 07 19:59
cubexyz	schestowitz, that antiX site you linked to has microsoft ads	Dec 07 20:03
cubexyz	http://www.linuxscreenshots.org	Dec 07 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org \| Linux Distribution Screenshot Tours		Dec 07 20:03
cubexyz	looks like they are targetting linux sites for sure	Dec 07 20:03
cubexyz	I've got microsoft.com blocked, should have done that years ago	Dec 07 20:04
schestowitz__	cubexyz: not internationally	Dec 07 20:04
schestowitz__	through third party	Dec 07 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "I'm glad to announce that I've been awarded a	Dec 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	5,000 USD "Flash Grant" by the Shuttleworth	Dec 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	Foundation." http://t.co/08bA6PdU14	Dec 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	(upsilon.cc)	Dec 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jhv	Dec 07 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-upsilon.cc \| Shuttleworth Foundation Flash Grant		Dec 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8Bv	Dec 07 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jhw	Dec 07 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung and open source \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; No	Dec 07 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony Xperia	Dec 07 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iYUKEF8kMT (www.gospelherald.com)	Dec 07 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jhx	Dec 07 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gospelherald.com \| Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; No Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony Xperia \| Gospelherald.com		Dec 07 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has Announced	Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	New Mystery Game http://t.co/mf8731Afhg	Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jor	Dec 07 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has Announced New Mystery Game \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same	Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	Performance as X11 http://t.co/3iByR1xnCL	Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 07 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 - Softpedia		Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jos	Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup Looks	Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	Stunning http://t.co/m1GIwPymcr	Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 07 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup Looks Stunning - Softpedia		Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jot	Dec 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RHQ 4.13 released http://t.co/IUnRKkeCdZ	Dec 07 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	(pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 07 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk \| Some things to remember: RHQ 4.13 released		Dec 07 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jqv	Dec 07 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 21 Release on December 9 Confirmed	Dec 07 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BxrDXOph1j (linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 07 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kbDJ1qFAVz (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Fedora 21 Release on December 9 Confirmed - Softpedia		Dec 07 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jqx	Dec 07 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Fedora 21 Is Coming In Just Two Days With Big Improvements		Dec 07 20:35
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8Bv'		Dec 07 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung and open source \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with	Dec 07 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	New Update http://t.co/nYZBllG3Zv	Dec 07 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 07 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with New Update - Softpedia		Dec 07 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jt0	Dec 07 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Quick Start Guide	Dec 07 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2yWwbvfbX7	Dec 07 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.adityapatawari.com) essential reading for	Dec 07 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adityapatawari.com \| Docker Quick Start Guide		Dec 07 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	sysadmins	Dec 07 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jt1	Dec 07 20:40
*TweetTuxMachines @SteamSwapReddit favourited 'Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with...'		Dec 07 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same	Dec 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	Performance as X11 http://t.co/KS1bxBvp1S	Dec 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1jwk	Dec 07 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/RDhgOFWgEC	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k26	Dec 07 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Features On The Horizon For The Linux	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/7fLaTOO2Xw	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k27	Dec 07 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] New Features On The Horizon For The Linux Kernel		Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.18 released http://t.co/bGKYm2fSKV	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	(lkml.iu.edu) " It's been a quiet week, and the	Dec 07 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu \| Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 3.18 released		Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	patch from rc7 is tiny, so 3.18 is out."	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k29	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WvX20rMtLj (linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k2a	Dec 07 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released - Softpedia		Dec 07 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs	Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	Editions Officially Released	Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/V3XzjjSEVt (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k3r	Dec 07 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released - Softpedia		Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best	Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review	Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yUgXnIuHxG (www.forbes.com)	Dec 07 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review - Forbes		Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k3t	Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released	Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5Owov1DKy9 (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 07 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1k3u	Dec 07 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released - Softpedia		Dec 07 21:11
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778724786429952 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778878419591168	Dec 07 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz heh, I thought you trying to call companies open-sourcing things #openwashing was kinda sad, but #mono theism is funny. :)		Dec 07 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I have a copy of VS 2015 preview installed and they're trying to tie in w/ Xamarin for cross-platform mobile dev. But the		Dec 07 21:20
schestowitz__	all about spreading the API that is a patent threat and domination factor for Microsoft, universally, across devices/platforms	Dec 07 21:20
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779083298762752 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779188017946625	Dec 07 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Xamarin component installer for Windows wouldn't work so I haven't tried making a project. You need a Mac w/ Xcode anyway to		Dec 07 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz do Xamarin development for iOS, and you can do Xamarin on Android from Linux or Mac, so Windows is the worst platform for it.		Dec 07 21:20
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779303692660736	Dec 07 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz except if you want to run on Windows Phone of course. MSFT is trying so hard to play their old games of locking people in!		Dec 07 21:21
schestowitz__	No, they luuuurve ... "open source"... they say so	Dec 07 21:21
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779452426858496	Dec 07 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz yep. They want to lock people into patented XAML, which is more complicated and confusing than non-patented XML or CSS layout.		Dec 07 21:22
schestowitz__	XAML is another matter, even worse, but failing	Dec 07 21:22
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779622568792065	Dec 07 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been thinking, you can find early Android engineers on video telling devs they chose Java over C# bc of fears of MSFT IP.		Dec 07 21:22
schestowitz__	links?	Dec 07 21:23
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779773370810368 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779909039767553	Dec 07 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the irony is that all their OEMs ended up getting sued anyway by MSFT over other "essential" interop and API patents,		Dec 07 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and then also got sued by Oracle after they bought Sun, over Java. The irony is they should've gone w/ C#, better language!		Dec 07 21:23
schestowitz__	Better in what sense? Look at the stewardship... a criminal company.	Dec 07 21:23
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780044536770560	Dec 07 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm thinking of early Google I/O talks with Dan Bornstein, in the Q&A sections. I'll see what I can dig up.		Dec 07 21:24
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780307163107329	Dec 07 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz better in the technical sense, purely. As an engineer, I prefer C#. To pick one minor feature, it has unsigned types.		Dec 07 21:25
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780464369811456 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780590136004608 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780787897450497 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780948862255105	Dec 07 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz it's a better language because they took all the good ideas from other languages that came before (incl Java, Ada, Delphi, etc)		Dec 07 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz I think the other reasons the Android engineers chose Java over C# were familiarity from having done a previous JVM for Danger,		Dec 07 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the feeling that there would be stronger Java IDE tooling (which there definitely is) than C#, and most used Mac or Linux.		Dec 07 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz that's why I'm curious about Xamarin Studio as a third-party alternative to VS. I'm a huge fan of IntelliJ (Android Studio).		Dec 07 21:30
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781396839469056 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781635641774080	Dec 07 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been a commercial or OSS user of IntelliJ since a Danger colleague recommended it to me in 2005: far superior to Eclipse!		Dec 07 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the funny thing is that JetBrains open-sourced and made a free community version of IntelliJ IDEA, and then Google has been		Dec 07 21:31
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781968803729408 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782126371164161	Dec 07 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz licensing the code (and paying for a small in-house tools team) to support the (free but closed-source) Android Studio fork.		Dec 07 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I stand corrected: it appears that Android Studio itself is open-source and you can build it yourself (from within itself!) :P		Dec 07 21:32
schestowitz__	IC... Java/Apache.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Studio	Dec 07 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Android Studio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/j1kc9 ]		Dec 07 21:33
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782643004555264	Dec 07 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz BTW @jetbrains is equally well-known and popular as a C# tools vendor. They're also one of the few Czech tech companies I know.		Dec 07 21:35
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782992666914816 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541783442954784768 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784280695701504 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784393082101760 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784471897264129	Dec 07 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'd say @jetbrains is a great model of a small company far from the tech hubs that succeeded by making really great products.		Dec 07 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @jetbrains also found ways to embrace free and open-source models while also finding companies with money to bill for support.		Dec 07 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: BTW @schestowitz you may find in the Oracle transcripts Andy Rubin answering q's about the big license fees that Danger paid to Sun for the		Dec 07 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "TCK" kits to test the compatibility of Danger's clean-room Java implementation w/ Sun's J2ME, MIDP, etc. standards to get the		Dec 07 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "coffee cup" logo prominently shown in the system info screen on the Sidekick/hiptop. That's why, even though I was still at		Dec 07 21:42
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784602398846976 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784710070808576	Dec 07 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz Danger when I heard the news that Android (still secret but rumored to be working on a phone) announced their alliance to sell		Dec 07 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz their own open-source Java-based mobile OS, not licensed from Sun. I figured that might cause them some trouble down the line,		Dec 07 21:42
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784814353805312 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784960407846912	Dec 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz but I kept my thoughts about the matter to myself (until just now). The trial made it pretty obvious that Oracle was hoping for		Dec 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz a similar type of payday that Sun had been trying to achieve with new-generation mobile platforms like they had been previously		Dec 07 21:43
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785110723297280 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785248292278272	Dec 07 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz with J2ME (MIDP, "midlets") for the old feature phones. The funny thing is the Sidekick had to support a MIDP emulation mode,		Dec 07 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz purely for the purposes of running Sun's testsuite that cost 6 or 7 figures to license. It's obvious why Android would want not		Dec 07 21:46
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785451569238017 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785564547002368 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785745728344064	Dec 07 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz to get stuck in that situation in the first place, but I wasn't surprised that they would end up being challenged to cough up		Dec 07 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz some equivalent form of tribute to the makers of Java, for something. Maybe the answer is only to use ISO or ECMA standards. :/		Dec 07 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz except that you know just as I do how easily corrupted intl. standards bodies are, LOL! So what's the answer? C++/JS seem safe.		Dec 07 21:47
schestowitz__	GPLv3 for Java...	Dec 07 21:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming	Dec 07 21:48
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TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com) new compilers too	Dec 07 21:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers \| InfoWorld		Dec 07 21:48
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856	Dec 07 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.		Dec 07 21:55
schestowitz__	"I'd use Chrome but I don't trust Google. At best, I'd use Chromium and only because it's possible to install the Pepper API Flash plug-in in there but ultimately, I'd rather have a system without ANY kind of proprietary software."	Dec 07 21:55
schestowitz__	Sometimes I run Chromium but still feel guilty about it	Dec 07 21:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Features On The Horizon For The Linux	Dec 07 23:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Features On The Horizon For The Linux Kernel \| Tux Machines		Dec 07 23:10
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806658289008640 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806905660669953 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807075542564865 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807371261997056	Dec 08 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz that only applies if you use Oracle's official version of Java, not if you go write your own VM like Dalvik (or ART).		Dec 08 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz from what I gathered by reading the court coverage, the essential sticking point was that Sun didn't want a royalty-free AOSP.		Dec 08 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the Android team didn't want to use Sun's JVM anyway, because they thought they could do better, and then give it away.		Dec 08 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but why would anyone want to build a mobile OS on top of GPLv3 version of Java when all OEMs want to go Apache/BSD licensed?		Dec 08 03:16
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807887857614848 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808418546147328 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808566185623552 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808646246514688	Dec 08 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz IMO rather than add a single new line of GPL, you'd have a more sellable product rebasing on top of *BSD kernel, not LInux. :)		Dec 08 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the other impression I formed from the Oracle vs. Google case is that Java is dead outside of enterprise, smart cards, etc.		Dec 08 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Java has a few markets where it utterly dominates, like COBOL does, or IBM mainframes, but in retrospect, applets in web pages		Dec 08 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz were a doomed proposition bc they didn't have a proper bridge to the DOM. JavaScript was the real answer, but the VMs needed		Dec 08 03:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808797262442496 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808932025405440 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809241862836224 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809546449006592	Dec 08 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz to catch up. The arrival of Chrome spurred interest elsewhere, and now there are multiple great open-source JS VMs besides V8.		Dec 08 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Regardless, Java is too late to succeed on phones again, I think. It's had its day in the Sun, as it were. ;)		Dec 08 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & on the closed-source, professional, high-end, supercomputer side is Apple, who have the best APIs, the best silicon, etc.		Dec 08 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & notice that Apple has been against Java on iOS, against even letting Firefox, Chrome or any other browser use their own VM.		Dec 08 03:19
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809765513310209 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810145903132672 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810308428206080 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810437830873088 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810669457137664	Dec 08 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz there's an interest in people cross-compiling from other source languages (Java, C#, JS) into Obj-C to get into Apple's store.		Dec 08 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz tl;dr is I'm not going to second-guess the decisions made to use Java in the way Android did bc the plan obviously succeeded.		Dec 08 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm trying to figure out what the mobile landscape is going to look like outside of iOS. I'm typing this on a Chromebook from		Dec 08 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Google (purchased w/ my own money) that is doing everything in JavaScript and C++ (and some NaCl), no JVM whatsoever.		Dec 08 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz it has an Intel Core processor and Google's ultra-sandboxed version of Adobe Flash, whose proprietary flavor of JavaScript is		Dec 08 03:20
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810776852275200 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810906380763136 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811110605635585 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811894122577920	Dec 08 03:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz exactly what Sun was trying to do (and failed utterly) with Java applets. So even by its own standards (annoying adverts, DRM)		Dec 08 03:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz a commercial, closed-source, non-free, JavaScript-based advertising platform beat Java applets and only now is HTML5 able to		Dec 08 03:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz begin to finally kill off Flash to enable a fully open-standards based Web. Just like Steve Jobs would've wanted (no sarcasm).		Dec 08 03:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Related: "No thank you, @infoworld, I won't be viewing those particular banner ads tonight." ;P http://t.co/zPDEJqrG48		Dec 08 03:22
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812764604252161 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812873207365632 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541813064706686976	Dec 08 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz The biggest irony of all with Java is their famous battle w/ Microsoft over control of the platform caused MSFT to scuttle a		Dec 08 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz perfectly good Java-based mobile platform (with Danger) along w/ doing anything Java-related at all for fear of more trouble.		Dec 08 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but first they invented .NET and C# to give themselves a completely different proprietary VM to tout & ultimately neglect. :/		Dec 08 03:23
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541856841169260544	Dec 08 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: cc @schestowitz: replacement #Android toolchain bypasses use of Oracle's javac and Java .class files, by @syegulalp http://t.co/PYMimzf67k		Dec 08 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com \| Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers \| InfoWorld		Dec 08 03:23
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265763	Dec 08 03:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World? http://www.malaysiandigest.com/business/531531-does-china-really-have-the-most-powerful-economy-in-the-world.html interesting points. #china		Dec 08 03:40
schestowitz__	"Are you trying to get me talking about the banks??? (suitable emoticon)."	Dec 08 03:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.malaysiandigest.com \| Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World?		Dec 08 03:40
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5267125	Dec 08 03:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the Chinese economy halted production tomorrow, would anyone notice? How about US halt? Therein lies the answer about economic dominance.		Dec 08 03:41
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 03:41
schestowitz__	If the US halted production tomorrow that would leave me with bad taste in the mouth.	Dec 08 03:41
schestowitz__	Believe it or not I haven't managed to find toothpaste and toothbrushes non-US made, besides that I have been doing fine.	Dec 08 03:41
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 03:41
schestowitz__	They're made in China too (brushes)	Dec 08 03:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856	Dec 08 03:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.		Dec 08 03:42
schestowitz__	"I completely understand you, I feel the same way. I'm not using GNU/Linux at this very moment but when I do again, it'll be completely free with Trisquel most likely. It's not open-source that I believe in but rather free software. Chromium does not strike me as free software."	Dec 08 03:42
schestowitz__	"Chromium could not be FREE considering Google's ethos. So why use an out of date version of Chrome, (even more outdated if you use Debian Stable repos), rather than a continually updated Chrome?"	Dec 08 03:42
schestowitz__	"Why not just use Firefox or something lighter which you know to be free and boycott the very idea of Flash since it is insecure and used to deliver ever-more-invasive advertisements?"	Dec 08 03:42
schestowitz__	"I choose Chrome on the basis it works for me. No guilt feelings. Fortunately my philosophy/religion holds that Compromise is inevitable. I also watch a little YouTube, but I use DuckDuckGo as my Search Engine to avoid being tracked, so far avoided potentially spying friendly smartphones and try to keep below the Man's radar. Doubtless I frequently fail, but much much less so than the Fcbook generation who may some day regret	Dec 08 03:42
schestowitz__	giving up their freedom so cheaply."	Dec 08 03:42
schestowitz__	"Unfortunately, all of our friends insist on being on Facebook regardless of our constant calls to use Diaspora and/or rely on e-mail alone. They're incredibly hard-headed about giving up a service which does nothing good for them."	Dec 08 03:42
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268916	Dec 08 03:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #mono theism: the misguided false belief that #windows APIs will somehow be compatible with #gnu #linux http://www.gamedev.net/topic/663511-bmfont-on-linux-a-possibility/		Dec 08 03:43
schestowitz__	"Use WINE?"	Dec 08 03:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamedev.net \| BMFont on Linux. A possibility? - AngelCode - GameDev.net [ http://ur1.ca/j1q92 ]		Dec 08 03:43
schestowitz__	Wine is for users rather than developers	Dec 08 03:43
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268413	Dec 08 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prisoners learning how to code with Linux http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/prisoners-learning-how-to-code-with-linux/ #gnu #linux #education		Dec 08 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Prisoners learning how to code with Linux [ http://ur1.ca/j1q9e ]		Dec 08 03:44
schestowitz__	"certainly a great way to lose weeks ;)"	Dec 08 03:44
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 03:44
schestowitz__	"Requested Range Not Satisfiable"	Dec 08 03:44
schestowitz__	That's a new error for me. Never seen that in my life.	Dec 08 03:44
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 03:44
schestowitz__	Works from here	Dec 08 03:44
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268969	Dec 08 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Saying that #EricGarner sold cigs similar to saying #drone victims were engaging in "suspicious activity"; health problems="imminent threat"		Dec 08 03:50
schestowitz__	"Wow, being killed for selling cigarettes is fine? That sounds so Nazi."	Dec 08 03:50
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5269008	Dec 08 03:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. #Rockefeller 's shameful attempt to kill #FOIA reform? https://freedom.press/blog/2014/12/why-arent-more-news-outlets-covering-sen-rockefellers-shameful-attempt-kill-foia-reform		Dec 08 03:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freedom.press \| Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. Rockefeller's shameful attempt to kill FOIA reform? \| Freedom of the Press Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/j1qc3 ]		Dec 08 03:51
schestowitz__	"Do you really need to ask? We both know that the media is bought and owned by the people who would benefit from these reforms."	Dec 08 03:51
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	I got your email address from a friend.	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	You are probably aware of what is going on at the EPO.	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	I attach a demo poster/flyer for tomorrows solidarity demos in The Hague and Munich, for your convenience.	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	I further attach a publication (by an unknown group of authors) illustrating the worksphere within the Office. Enjoy the reading.	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	The background is that two colleagues currently face disciplinary measures for their activity as members of the Internal Appeals Committee,	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	although persons carrying out such duties are protected against such measures.	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	It is simply another example of an abuse of power of EPO president Bemoît Battistelli.	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	Please do not hesitate to contact me if you want to get more information.	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	Best regards, an epo insider	Dec 08 04:11
schestowitz__	"	Dec 08 04:11
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schestowitz__	> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949	Dec 08 05:44
schestowitz__	>	Dec 08 05:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk \| Microsoft Calls Its Time On The Nook Tablet [ http://ur1.ca/j1rdn ]		Dec 08 05:44
schestowitz__	> I think you saw this already.	Dec 08 05:44
schestowitz__	I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.	Dec 08 05:44
schestowitz__	> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https://twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832	Dec 08 05:46
schestowitz__	> I think you saw this already.	Dec 08 05:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https:/twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832 )		Dec 08 05:46
schestowitz__	I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.	Dec 08 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/ZE3Vg4YQgY	Dec 08 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1rhr	Dec 08 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Weekend in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your	Dec 08 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	tech questions answered http://t.co/NwQNLaB277	Dec 08 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theguardian.com)	Dec 08 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1rhs	Dec 08 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered \| Technology \| The Guardian		Dec 08 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/sXPuTYQlNl	Dec 08 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1rhv	Dec 08 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Weekend in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 05:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your	Dec 08 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	tech questions answered http://t.co/8OeS6LNb6d	Dec 08 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1uy7	Dec 08 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the	Dec 08 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More	Dec 08 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6y8DvgDI1m (www.linux.com)	Dec 08 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1uze	Dec 08 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More \| Linux.com		Dec 08 12:05
*TweetTuxMachines @BeerReddit favourited 'Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life...'		Dec 08 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success	Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hHgVw1vrvU (dot.kde.org)	Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v25	Dec 08 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success \| KDE.news		Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker: Here, take the wheel – now YOU can run	Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	your own containers http://t.co/0eJqneFR03	Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Dec 08 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Docker: Here, take the wheel – now YOU can run your own containers • The Register		Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v26	Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+	Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IDrOvKXc5A (opensource.com)	Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v27	Dec 08 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Review: Raspberry Pi A+ \| Opensource.com		Dec 08 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the	Dec 08 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More	Dec 08 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ly8tgz0XkC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v7f	Dec 08 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success	Dec 08 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cJ8wIHyRNg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v7h	Dec 08 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+	Dec 08 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ywg5snlGcZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1v7i	Dec 08 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+ \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 12:31
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268413	Dec 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prisoners learning how to code with Linux http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/prisoners-learning-how-to-code-with-linux/ #gnu #linux #education		Dec 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Prisoners learning how to code with Linux [ http://ur1.ca/j1q9e ]		Dec 08 12:42
schestowitz_bed2	\|Huh. Works in Rekonq. What's that all about?\|	Dec 08 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Cockpit Management Console In Fedora 21	Dec 08 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	Makes Linux Administration Easy	Dec 08 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3NSx7ILgaA (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 08 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1vex	Dec 08 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] The Cockpit Management Console In Fedora 21 Makes Linux Administration Easy		Dec 08 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Founder Must Right His Ship	Dec 08 12:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6sU7lOVwsv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 12:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1vf1	Dec 08 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Docker Founder Must Right His Ship \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 12:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SK Telecom develops open-source oneM2M IoT	Dec 08 12:59
TweetTuxMachines	platform http://t.co/1PlJ7OT3II	Dec 08 12:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 12:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1vfc	Dec 08 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SK Telecom develops open-source oneM2M IoT platform \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 12:59
MinceR	> one sec researcher made a funny cabaret speech on sec industry. loving his quote "why one needs jailbars if one can be in the cloud?" lol	Dec 08 13:13
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5267125	Dec 08 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the Chinese economy halted production tomorrow, would anyone notice? How about US halt? Therein lies the answer about economic dominance.		Dec 08 13:36
schestowitz_bed2	"Sure, but since are US-branded most of the earnings go to the US and that's not the idea in a boycott, I meant neither US-manufactured nor US-branded. I'm pretty sure Chinese make toothpaste and toothbrushes since I bought that in Japan, but here in Banana Republic I cannot find them."	Dec 08 13:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Channel 4 chose open-source MuleSoft over	Dec 08 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	'prohibitively expensive' Oracle and Microsoft	Dec 08 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9vSdCalORH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y1s	Dec 08 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why Channel 4 chose open-source MuleSoft over 'prohibitively expensive' Oracle and Microsoft \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LiveUSB-Creator Is Ready For Fedora 21	Dec 08 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JAbgR6Op7V (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y1t	Dec 08 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LiveUSB-Creator Is Ready For Fedora 21 \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mobile-Desktop Convergence	Dec 08 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/EYSbjbqLXg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y89	Dec 08 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mobile-Desktop Convergence \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Errplane Snags $8.1M To Continue Building Open	Dec 08 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	Source InfluxDB Time Series Database	Dec 08 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hKBD0NegGP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 08 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j1y8b	Dec 08 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Errplane Snags $8.1M To Continue Building Open Source InfluxDB Time Series Database \| Tux Machines		Dec 08 18:03
*TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter...		Dec 08 18:17
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ozzzzy	Hello!	Dec 09 06:35
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schestowitz	"thanks to the brilliance of Steve Jobs"	Dec 09 07:15
schestowitz	LOL	Dec 09 07:15
schestowitz	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2473027,00.asp	Dec 09 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcmag.com \| Apple's Trillion-Dollar Dilemma \| Tim Bajarin \| PCMag.com		Dec 09 07:15
schestowitz	"what is the main difference between software engineering and software development? I'm just going to study at university (bachelor's degree), but i don't know the difference."	Dec 09 07:23
schestowitz	"and which degree do i need to work as a developer? computer science may be?"	Dec 09 07:23
schestowitz	"(sorry for my english, i'm not a native speaker)"	Dec 09 07:24
schestowitz	"I've already some skills in software development...'	Dec 09 07:24
schestowitz	Usually, software engineering and software development are the same. Computer engineering is the odd one (hardware).	Dec 09 07:24
msb_	cubexyz: I've got skype running again on my old Suse 11.4 machine, using the pulseaudio emulator for alsa apulse: https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse	Dec 09 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com \| i-rinat/apulse · GitHub		Dec 09 07:26
msb_	Anybody want to call me, my skype ID is markbilk	Dec 09 07:27
MinceR	software engineering is supposed to be software development with forethought and competence	Dec 09 07:36
MinceR	but those are usually missing regardless of name	Dec 09 07:36
MinceR	not going to install skype	Dec 09 07:36
msb_	Soon after Microshit swallowed skype, it changed skype for Linux to require pulseaudio, which is written by Lennart Poettering, the infamous author of systemd.	Dec 09 07:37
schestowitz	msb_:skype?!	Dec 09 07:38
msb_	schestowitz: yes	Dec 09 07:38
MinceR	so from shitty it went to uber-shitty	Dec 09 07:38
msb_	well, it usually works pretty well.	Dec 09 07:38
MinceR	yeah, that's what the m$ crowd says all the time	Dec 09 07:39
MinceR	and since m$ crap is forced on me routinely, i can see how "well" it works	Dec 09 07:39
MinceR	(like a train wreck.)	Dec 09 07:39
msb_	But my point is that two operations to sabotage Linux -- skype/pulseaudio and systemd -- are connected.	Dec 09 07:40
MinceR	for example, the letter "C" in CSV (which stands for Comma Separated Values) didn't tip off the drooling idiots in redmond that comma, not semicolon, is supposed to be the field separator in a CSV file.	Dec 09 07:40
MinceR	could well be.	Dec 09 07:40
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msb_	I wonder if there's also a connection with KDE4, which more or less kills multiple virtual desktops.	Dec 09 07:41
MinceR	i don't even know anymore	Dec 09 07:42
MinceR	in any case, it takes more than just poettering to fuck everything up	Dec 09 07:42
MinceR	it requires a mass of idiotic followers	Dec 09 07:42
MinceR	who force his shit to be adopted almost everywhere	Dec 09 07:42
msb_	YES!	Dec 09 07:42
msb_	But there are several groups working on substitutes for systemd so we can be free of it.	Dec 09 07:44
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msb_	And apulse to substitute for pulseaudio.	Dec 09 07:45
MinceR	and we already have sysvinit and alsa	Dec 09 07:45
msb_	And Trinity Desktop (clone of KDE3) to substitute for KDE4.	Dec 09 07:45
MinceR	and XFCE, and a lot of standalone window managers	Dec 09 07:46
*amarsh04 doesn't like how both brassero and k3b in Debian depend indirectly on systemd		Dec 09 07:46
msb_	The problem now with sysvinit is that a lot of apps are being warped to depend on systemd facilities.	Dec 09 07:46
amarsh04	at least there are other cd burning packages	Dec 09 07:46
amarsh04	and hplip for that matter, although I can use my printer fine without hplip and just cups-related packages	Dec 09 07:47
MinceR	those apps may have to be discarded, then	Dec 09 07:48
amarsh04	that's what I did with my other pc (running kde 4.x)	Dec 09 07:48
amarsh04	this machine still running kde 3.5 can still use the ancient k3b	Dec 09 07:49
amarsh04	the incidental breakage with no alternative solutions isn't helpful	Dec 09 07:50
amarsh04	e.g. recent versions of udev don't recognise the mass storage device mode of my nokia handset	Dec 09 07:50
MinceR	indeed	Dec 09 07:50
amarsh04	so I'm holding back udev	Dec 09 07:50
amarsh04	if I was running systemd, I wouldn't have the luxury of using a version of udev that ancient	Dec 09 07:51
msb_	amarsh04: A. I don't think the breakage is incidental -- it's sabotage of Linux. B. alternative solutions are the various shims that allow systemd-warped apps to run on sysvinit systems.	Dec 09 07:53
amarsh04	the shims that aren't maintained	Dec 09 07:53
msb_	Eventually people will settle on one or two of them and they will be maintained.	Dec 09 07:54
MinceR	the shims retain some or all of the overhead and braindead design	Dec 09 07:55
msb_	But they are under control of people, not psychopaths.	Dec 09 07:57
msb_	And once that gets going, some of the more important apps can be reverted.	Dec 09 07:58
amarsh04	I like having alternative ways of doing things and still have the alternatives available by the package system such as in Debian	Dec 09 07:58
MinceR	debian has already committed to breaking your system if you don't use systemd	Dec 09 07:59
schestowitz	" “Microsoft loves Linux,” said Bob Kelly, Corporate Vice President at Microsoft"	Dec 09 07:59
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 07:59
schestowitz	Sounds like Microsofts pays nicely for a few weeks of having Ubuntu Core exclusively.	Dec 09 07:59
schestowitz	Also not the first time MS is having affair with Linux. See their Suse partnership.	Dec 09 07:59
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 07:59
schestowitz	"The creed of the Amoeba: embrace, engulf, and digest."	Dec 09 07:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5274985	Dec 09 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #canonical still sleeps with a predator http://siliconangle.com/blog/2014/12/09/canonical-restructures-ubuntu-in-mobile-mode-enlists-microsoft-as-first-partner/ #ubuntu #gnu #linux		Dec 09 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> siliconangle.com \| Canonical restructures Ubuntu in mobile mode; Microsoft is first partner \| SiliconANGLE		Dec 09 07:59
schestowitz	Shuttleworth looks for short-term rewards	Dec 09 08:00
schestowitz	"Oh, thank you)) i was looking for the information on internet, but wasn't sure exactly which degree i do need."	Dec 09 08:00
schestowitz	-anon	Dec 09 08:00
msb_	Some people are focusing on getting rid of systemd in Debian -- http://www.freelists.org/list/modular-debian is a great mailing-list. Totally anti-systemd, lots of interesting ideas.	Dec 09 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freelists.org \| FreeLists / Toward a more modular Debian OS		Dec 09 08:02
MinceR	we've got Devuan going	Dec 09 08:06
MinceR	then debian can burn with their systemd, gnome and mono	Dec 09 08:06
msb_	Wiki wants to delete the article about Devuan. They say it's not real yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devuan	Dec 09 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Devuan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Dec 09 08:09
MinceR	well, it's wikipedia	Dec 09 08:09
MinceR	they live off deleting things	Dec 09 08:09
MinceR	it's the force that keeps them alive	Dec 09 08:10
MinceR	they should have called themselves MemoryHole	Dec 09 08:10
msb_	ok, here's a Halloween-colored website for it: https://www.devuan.org/	Dec 09 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devuan.org \| Devuan - the GNU/Linux by Veteran Unix Admins.		Dec 09 08:12
MinceR	:)	Dec 09 08:13
msb_	wikipedia calls all the govt undercover attacks "conspiracy theories".	Dec 09 08:13
msb_	totally fascist-infiltrated	Dec 09 08:14
msb_	But this site is excellent: http://globalresearch.ca/	Dec 09 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalresearch.ca \| Global Research		Dec 09 08:15
msb_	Free widespread broadcast communication is the key to honesty prevailing over psychopathy. And the Net gives us that.	Dec 09 08:21
msb_	Maybe the Singularity has already begun!	Dec 09 08:21
msb_	Honesty and creativity!	Dec 09 08:23
msb_	MinceR: Are you working with Devuan?	Dec 09 08:26
MinceR	i'm lurking there	Dec 09 08:27
msb_	Check that mailing-list too.	Dec 09 08:27
MinceR	i occasionally do	Dec 09 08:28
msb_	That's where I heard about apulse.	Dec 09 08:28
MinceR	:)	Dec 09 08:29
msb_	Oops, I lied. I got that from the trinity-users list.	Dec 09 08:32
msb_	They are also anti-systemd.	Dec 09 08:33
msb_	Overhead isn't very important, since we're all running supercomputers!	Dec 09 08:35
msb_	(I started with an original IBM-PC.)	Dec 09 08:35
msb_	Braindeadness is, but with clever design it can be restricted to small areas of code.	Dec 09 08:37
msb_	(talking about systemd-substitute shims here)	Dec 09 08:38
amarsh04	when I installed Debian the machine had 48 meg of RAM and a cyrix 166 MHz cpu (still a bit more than 16 Meg of RAM and a 486DX33 in 1993 to run what was then Novell Unixware)	Dec 09 08:44
MinceR	nowadays even the installer wouldn't run on that, would it?	Dec 09 08:45
amarsh04	probably not	Dec 09 08:45
amarsh04	current cpu on this machine is AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ with 1024 Megabytes of RAM	Dec 09 08:45
amarsh04	brb, restarting desktop	Dec 09 08:46
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msb_	amarsh04: are you back?	Dec 09 09:20
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 09:29
schestowitz	Hello Roy,	Dec 09 09:29
schestowitz	Not sure whether this is interesting for you:	Dec 09 09:29
schestowitz	"	Dec 09 09:29
schestowitz	Major new leak	Dec 09 09:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/542363086884470785	Dec 09 12:03
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schestowitz	Fell out rather ;-)	Dec 09 12:03
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amarsh04	I'm here msb_	Dec 09 15:56
msb_	amarsh04: Hi!	Dec 09 15:57
msb_	I was just going to say that I think my cpu is the same as yours. Two cores?	Dec 09 15:58
amarsh04	I think this one is single core	Dec 09 16:00
msb_	Run the lscpu command.	Dec 09 16:01
msb_	I've just gotten mine to display x265/HEVC 720p videos, but it saturates both cores.	Dec 09 16:06
msb_	Needed the latest version of mplayer plus some tuning.	Dec 09 16:07
amarsh04	single cpu	Dec 09 16:08
msb_	I wonder if the single and dual core have the same pinout.	Dec 09 16:09
amarsh04	probably	Dec 09 16:09
msb_	Maybe you could double your power by buying a new one.	Dec 09 16:10
amarsh04	yes, but I'll be replacing the motherboard anyway	Dec 09 16:10
msb_	http://www.pricewatch.com/search?q=amd+athlon+x2+desktop&gallery=1&sortby=price&condition=new&discounted=2	Dec 09 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pricewatch.com \| PriceWatch - Lowest prices, local and nationwide stores selling amd athlon x2 desktop \| Page 1 [ http://ur1.ca/j2evt ]		Dec 09 16:15
msb_	Looks like the 2-core is less than $20 shipped.	Dec 09 16:15
msb_	mplayer definitely uses both cores. I don't know if the second one is needed for anything else.	Dec 09 16:19
msb_	Maybe locatedb -- I don't remember.	Dec 09 16:21
msb_	x265/HEVC videos are about half the size of x264 for the same resolution/quality.	Dec 09 16:28
msb_	Save a lot of disk space.	Dec 09 16:29
amarsh04	I build mplayer from source regularly, and use my 4 core machine to play videos	Dec 09 16:47
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/542502150102716417	Dec 09 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz don´t worry the fringe Far Left in LatAm hates McDonalds more than imperialism		Dec 09 21:15
schestowitz	LOL	Dec 09 21:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers Raspberry	Dec 09 21:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Porteus Desktop Edition Is a Modular Bleeding	Dec 09 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines JasPer Vulnerability Closed in All Supported	Dec 09 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/RUIgzMEvLD	Dec 09 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.18: 4 Reasons to Love a 'Diseased Newt'	Dec 09 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux	Dec 09 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	experience to mobile devices	Dec 09 22:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM	Dec 09 22:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers Raspberry	Dec 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines	Pi-like size and I/O http://t.co/7hxU7hyrcn	Dec 09 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Video: Security Features in systemd	Dec 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aXdtd5chkh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2j1e	Dec 09 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux	Dec 09 22:20
TweetTuxMachines	experience to mobile devices	Dec 09 22:20
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/542525905579438081	Dec 09 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @DafnaLinzer @schestowitz @danapriest @JulieATate Thank You. Thank You. & some links to the story, please!		Dec 09 22:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542523437269282818 https://twitter.com/TheDailyEdge/status/542484791124164608 https://twitter.com/WeMeantWell/status/542492326669475840 https://twitter.com/DafnaLinzer/status/542505853085941762	Dec 09 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Said this years ago: torture good as 1) punishment; 2) deterrence? Not good for: true confessions (under force). Also good for: #blowback		Dec 09 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheDailyEdge: If torture keeps us safe from terror, how come ISIS is waterboarding Americans? #TortureReport http://t.co/pjSo39lsyb		Dec 09 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnn.com \| Report: ISIS waterboarded captives - CNN.com		Dec 09 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WeMeantWell: So now that torture is wrong and all, the US is offering compensation to its victims? I missed that part of the story right? #TortureReport		Dec 09 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DafnaLinzer: As you read the #TortureReport, consider sending a "thank you" to @danapriest and @JulieATate for revealing existence of black sites in '05		Dec 09 22:55
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542522148527423488 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542521981548363776 https://twitter.com/lydiadepillis/status/542518100709474305	Dec 09 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How not to make friends: "chronic hemorrhoids, an anal fissure, and symptomatic rectal prolapse." http://t.co/9DHwx8DdNm		Dec 09 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedailybeast.com \| Inside the CIA’s Sadistic Dungeon - The Daily Beast		Dec 09 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #torture programme of #bush and #cheney helped keep sadists off the streets, in some island with "brown" targets http://t.co/3DBAQdyKgz		Dec 09 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lydiadepillis: The more I read of the #torturereport, the less I can distinguish between us and the people executing journos lately http://t.co/EsQcuugXGx		Dec 09 22:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/ron_fournier/status/542519318077251584 https://twitter.com/regibaby67/status/542519355590729728 https://twitter.com/Patbagley/status/542514826652557315	Dec 09 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ron_fournier: Once more on the #TortureReport: What nobody should excuse, justify, or forgive are the lies. Their stink will haunt US leaders for years		Dec 09 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@regibaby67: Torture and illegal surveillance coincided during Bush years, under the pretense of keeping Americans safe. Feel safer now? #TortureReport		Dec 09 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Patbagley: Wonder why Dick Cheney doesn't travel? Some countries still prosecute war criminals #Cheney #torture #TortureReport http://t.co/x2ChxdGGRU		Dec 09 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Patbagley: Wonder why Dick Cheney doesn't travel? Some countries still prosecute war criminals #Cheney #torture #TortureReport http://t.co/x2ChxdGGRU		Dec 09 22:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/AnthonyLawlor/status/542519364897878016	Dec 09 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnthonyLawlor: Jack Bauer approach to interrogation reveals sadistic shadow side of the American psyche. #TortureReport		Dec 09 22:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542507703772254208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504779801309184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504435839029249 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504049015144448	Dec 09 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Free Software has made great strides in all kinds of areas and improved our lives." http://t.co/WgZYUSJxlb		Dec 09 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.lydiapintscher.de \| life at the end of the universe » Keeping our eyes on the big picture – High Priority Projects		Dec 09 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If age argument ("it's old news","doesn't matter anymore") helps pardon criminals, then Senate needs to launch $40m report into #drones NOW		Dec 09 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 10 years from now: #DroneReport about how White House and Pentagon lied about the value and extent of #assassination & covered up civilians?		Dec 09 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The right wing justifies #torture in the name of some "higher" (exceptional) goal like "fighting terror" while labeling #wikileaks "terror"		Dec 09 22:58
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542503664288428032 https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/542477772577603587 https://twitter.com/ozchrisrock/status/542493183720947712 https://twitter.com/ArarMaher/status/542494404397641728 https://twitter.com/HinaShamsi/status/542496811265425409	Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nypd didn't murder #ericGarner - it was just "simulating drowning". The detainee was in bad health... so it's "fair play". #ICantBreathe		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: Bush promised there was no torture happening in our name. Well, he lied. #TortureReport http://t.co/iQMlL6N7um		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: Bush promised there was no torture happening in our name. Well, he lied. #TortureReport http://t.co/iQMlL6N7um		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: I read a little bit of the torture report and, well, the first problem is that we're a country that has torture reports. #TortureReport		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArarMaher: What #TortureReport doesn't mention (bc it's not part of mandate) is that countless other suspects were sent 2 other countries 4 processing.		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HinaShamsi: Illuminating @washingtonpost graphic on then CIA-director Hayden's lies to Congress as revealed in #TortureReport http://t.co/HjaQwXstuU		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com \| Hayden’s testimony vs. the Senate report - Washington Post		Dec 09 22:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542500750270529536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542500468715290624 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542499665376055296 https://twitter.com/blogdiva/status/542498259407609856	Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Maybe "they hate us" because of imperialism. Maybe it's not "because we have McDonalds" but because we stuff things up their rectum. [2/2]		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: December 9th: the day that many brainwashed TV viewers (Fox, CNN, NBC etc.) realised why "they hate us", to quote Bush. [1/2]		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Droning to death versus torturing to death http://t.co/JSnpkp3rVV		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedailybeast.com \| The Bush Administration Homicides - The Daily Beast		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blogdiva: DAMN... RT @BenjaminNorton: Yet another brilliant cartoon by @LatuffCartoons CIA #TortureReport http://t.co/MurKPNZ8Dk		Dec 09 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LatuffCartoons: Please, RT! U.S. Senate report on @CIA torture, via @operamundi #TortureReport http://t.co/zXYegIHaFq		Dec 09 22:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/542497289793581056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542499159186489344 https://twitter.com/jimasher/status/542498330782089216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496987166162944 https://twitter.com/HaroldItz/status/542476254407294976	Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: #EricGarner sold a loose cigarette and was killed. George Bush tortured people and got a library. #TortureReport http://t.co/HpNaI4ptm1		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: #EricGarner sold a loose cigarette and was killed. George Bush tortured people and got a library. #TortureReport http://t.co/HpNaI4ptm1		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cnn has reckless 'reporting' which consistently lays blame for "terror" threat on the messengers rather than the torturers. #propaganda		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jimasher: McClatchy reveals that Congress has no stomach for pursuing crimes detailed in CIA #torturereport. http://t.co/uKCL7GmQLY		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mcclatchydc.com \| National news from McClatchy DC News \| Washington DC		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM Power8 support http://t.co/hxlJPpelXP #suse #ibm #mariadb #database		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theinquirer.net \| MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM Power8 support- The Inquirer		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HaroldItz: Cheney reads #TortureReport, smiles, and happily sighs, "Ah, memories!"		Dec 09 23:00
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496833126150144 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496565525348355 https://twitter.com/missyasin/status/542474449279516672 https://twitter.com/ozchrisrock/status/542474311387586561	Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #torture in West often done by proxy, e.g. enabling Mubarak, Assad etc. to torture their own citizens or flying people abroad for torture		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Western world can only claim that #torture is evil & inhumane as long as it's able to pretend or deny that it's not doing it (or rename it)		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@missyasin: Collaborated w/ @simkhosla for piece showing how #TortureReport is part of global problem http://t.co/zhkDp4an9e http://t.co/aww4pYWfry		Dec 09 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalpost.com \| This graphic shows that torture is a global problem \| GlobalPost		Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@missyasin: Collaborated w/ @simkhosla for piece showing how #TortureReport is part of global problem http://t.co/zhkDp4an9e http://t.co/aww4pYWfry		Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: #FoxNews declared torture humane today. Good night everybody! #TortureReport http://t.co/RRysHjH42k		Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: #FoxNews declared torture humane today. Good night everybody! #TortureReport http://t.co/RRysHjH42k		Dec 09 23:01
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495949881229313 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495894046666752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495733643890688	Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Dissent against #torture -> jail https://t.co/6c5iTBCzeI		Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: From now on every attack on US folks abroad will be (or can be) blamed on those who shine light on #torture - reversing cause and effect		Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Rectal Feeding," Threats to Children, and More: 16 Awful Abuses From the CIA Torture Report http://t.co/DTREfqRg24 #cia #torture		Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| "Rectal Feeding," Threats to Children, and More: 16 Awful Abuses From the CIA Torture Report \| Mother Jones		Dec 09 23:01
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/adrianshort/status/542463764126105600 https://twitter.com/kgosztola/status/542464503997153281 https://twitter.com/snowwhite44/status/542463303482474496	Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@adrianshort: Torture is just fine for the sort of people who feel oppressed by socialised healthcare. #TortureReport		Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kgosztola: CIA chief had inspector general office reviewed cause of "bias" against torture & CIA "morale issues" #TortureReport http://t.co/P0tmi2vH8J		Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kgosztola: CIA chief had inspector general office reviewed cause of "bias" against torture & CIA "morale issues" #TortureReport http://t.co/P0tmi2vH8J		Dec 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@snowwhite44: How can anyone reading the #TortureReport and watching police brutality in our towns cannot see that we are morally bankrupt ? #shutitdown		Dec 09 23:01
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DaemonFC	I'm on my Chromebook. An Acer BIOS update killed my Acer motherboard.	Dec 10 01:24
DaemonFC	Now I'm trying to rebuild it with standard parts, salvaging as much as possible along the way.	Dec 10 01:25
DaemonFC	Turns out that the motherboard was proprietary, and so was the power supply, and they're using a laptop DVD-RW drive along with a custom PCMCIA port for wireless and bluetooth, and the two front USB 2.0 ports are using a 19/20 pin USB 3.0 cable that they put a cap on and plugged into some exposed pins on their motherboard.	Dec 10 01:26
DaemonFC	So along the way, I picked up a couple of adapter cables. They're so odd that I had to order them from China.	Dec 10 01:26
DaemonFC	One is a SATA power to micro slimline SATA power adapter, and the other is intended to let you plug in USB 3.0 front ports into a USB 2.0 9 pin header.	Dec 10 01:27
DaemonFC	And I'm just sort of hoping that one works.	Dec 10 01:27
DaemonFC	The buttplugs at Acer didn't bother to make any sort of emergency recover procedure for a bad BIOS flash. The $45 board I ordered has dual BIOS, which will boot off of a backup copy if the flash went wrong.	Dec 10 01:28
DaemonFC	I feel like the people on Apollo 13, trying to make a CO2 scrubber with duct tape and tube socks.	Dec 10 01:29
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*TweetTuxMachines @UbuntuReddit favourited 'JasPer Vulnerability Closed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes...'		Dec 10 02:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Happy Fedora Day http://t.co/0iiUEksLdo	Dec 10 02:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 02:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Happy Fedora Day \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 02:33
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5273580	Dec 10 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Piles of leaked documents about the #epo has #techrights dependent on caffeine and late night work again. Like #Comes vs #Microsoft days.		Dec 10 06:30
schestowitz__	"It's late here now, I'll have a look at it in the morning."	Dec 10 06:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278966	Dec 10 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rugged, fanless box-PC runs #Linux on #Haswell http://linuxgizmos.com/rugged-fanless-box-pc-runs-linux-on-intel-haswell/		Dec 10 06:30
schestowitz__	"Oooh, fanless. Like an Apple II."	Dec 10 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Rugged, fanless box-PC runs Linux on Haswell · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/j2qz7 ]		Dec 10 06:30
schestowitz__	The only fans it has: people with no brains	Dec 10 06:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5276813	Dec 10 06:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Threatening to kill your family members is psychological #torture practiced by #cia and it can be more agonising than physical torture		Dec 10 06:32
schestowitz__	"I imagine many of these threats were genuine. Without real trials, we can't be sure."	Dec 10 06:32
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5275192	Dec 10 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Users Need 27 Services to Get Most Popular Films, Report Finds http://torrentfreak.com/uk-users-need-27-services-to-get-most-popular-films-report-finds-141208/ distribution and availability issue		Dec 10 06:33
schestowitz__	"I use cclive most of the time and have built a very interesting library over the last few years."	Dec 10 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> torrentfreak.com \| UK Users Need 27 Services to Get Most Popular Films, Report Finds \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/j2i3p ]		Dec 10 06:33
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5273566	Dec 10 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Last check of logs (past filtering/DDOS defences) suggests that #ddos against #tuxmachines now ineffective, problem largely solved		Dec 10 06:36
schestowitz__	"It's interesting that the attackers would run out of bots and that the traffic would not overwhelm you anyway."	Dec 10 06:37
schestowitz__	"I like 'pure'. Android is crippled when compared to traditional distros."	Dec 10 06:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278981	Dec 10 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices http://www.itworld.com/article/2856604/with-unity-8-ubuntu-will-bring-pure-linux-experience-to-mobile-devices.html #ubuntu #linux #unity		Dec 10 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com \| With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/j2r26 ]		Dec 10 06:41
MinceR	https://narf-archive.com/pix/f0e9c8ec5c03a413b7fad876d2bcf6e987cfea1a.jpeg	Dec 10 08:21
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msb_	Maybe "they hate us" because they know the US did 9/11, blamed it on them, and used it as an excuse to murder 2,000,000 of them. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911	Dec 10 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Dec 10 11:15
msb_	schestowitz__: Please see North Tower Exploding by David Chandler item at above address. Does that convince you?	Dec 10 11:16
msb_	The other 3 videos are excellent also.	Dec 10 11:17
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/542647473131380736	Dec 10 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz Torture is why many terrorists became terrorists in the first place.		Dec 10 11:47
schestowitz__	msb_: it didn't explode	Dec 10 11:48
msb_	schestowitz__: Did you read the part about the flying girders and F=ma?	Dec 10 11:49
MinceR	http://daggle.com/closed-unfriendly-world-wikipedia-2853	Dec 10 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daggle.com \| The Closed, Unfriendly World Of Wikipedia		Dec 10 11:50
schestowitz__	http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/whats-wrong-with-chromeosbook-a-general-musing/	Dec 10 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openbytes.wordpress.com \| What’s wrong with ChromeOS/book & a general musing on silly people \| OpenBytes - Goblin's Domain [ http://ur1.ca/j2twg ]		Dec 10 11:58
schestowitz__	"Contractual obligations have me drawn away from OpenBytes, its a shame because my time doesn’t even seem to have the opportunity for many 140 character one liners on Twitter. G+ seems to me like the social media that everyone knows about and didn’t want. Its funny because I’ve noticed that it seems to get more activity when linking articles on other social media rather than conversations created by a musing on G+ itself.	Dec 10 11:58
schestowitz__	Maybe G+ has the charm of being an outlet for people who want to comment on an article and feel more comfortable doing it on their own ground (as in their own G+ page)"	Dec 10 11:58
msb_	http://drsircus.com/world-news/psychopaths-rule-our-world-medicine-politics-and-war	Dec 10 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drsircus.com \| Psychopaths Rule Our World – Medicine, Politics and War [ http://ur1.ca/j2twl ]		Dec 10 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Empire: Total War Gold Edition Released for	Dec 10 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, Video Available	Dec 10 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gCHN7psUwA (www.gamershell.com)	Dec 10 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u03	Dec 10 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamershell.com \| News: Empire: Total War Gold Edition Released for Linux, Video Available		Dec 10 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 [development] Already Begun	Dec 10 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LfCyAzYixX (ostatic.com)	Dec 10 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u07	Dec 10 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun		Dec 10 12:12
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/542726696550813696	Dec 10 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz: Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution https://t.co/kLsIqLQ6QJ #eu #europe		Dec 10 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu \| Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution \| Joinup		Dec 10 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bgUoyz9XGF (www.mylinuxrig.com)	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3t	Dec 10 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com \| The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist - My Linux Rig		Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	awesome performance! http://t.co/YCodmMbFuh	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	(mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 10 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk \| Linuxed - Exploring Linux distros: Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply awesome performance!		Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3u	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best KDE distro of 2014 http://t.co/amVFo0CsbQ	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	(netrunner-mag.com)	Dec 10 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netrunner-mag.com \| Netrunner MAG \| Best KDE distro of 2014		Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3w	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snappy Ubuntu challenges CoreOS and Project	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	Atomic on lightweight cloud servers	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QduxsKGgbE (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2u3x	Dec 10 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Snappy Ubuntu challenges CoreOS and Project Atomic on lightweight cloud servers \| ZDNet		Dec 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand	Dec 10 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	instead of solution http://t.co/gWzCljv8Fa	Dec 10 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ufb	Dec 10 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun	Dec 10 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/z7j0ogUrAz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ufc	Dec 10 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 10/12/2014: Fedora 21, Ubuntu Core	Dec 10 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SKENC9tBjz (techrights.org)	Dec 10 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ufl	Dec 10 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 10/12/2014: Fedora 21, Ubuntu Core \| Techrights		Dec 10 13:05
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/12/connections-between-phones-and-smartwatches-wide-open-to-brute-force-hacks/	Dec 10 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Data sent between phones and smartwatches wide open to hackers \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/j2ukm ]		Dec 10 13:24
Sosumi	smartwatches are the new 3dtvs	Dec 10 13:25
Sosumi	just a fad	Dec 10 13:25
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278824	Dec 10 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: From now on every attack on US folks abroad will be (or can be) blamed on those who shine light on #torture - reversing cause and effect		Dec 10 13:57
schestowitz__	"	Dec 10 13:57
schestowitz__	US people can keep their head deep in the sand if that makes them happy, in my country people believes that they cannot be blamed at all about drug cartels for the same reason.	Dec 10 13:57
schestowitz__	That is not going to solve anything but makes people feel better.	Dec 10 13:57
schestowitz__	"	Dec 10 13:57
msb_	schestowitz__: Roy, it's a shame that you, who are so intelligent, and have done so much for humanity, avoid the F=ma proof regarding 9-11 by resorting to a nonsensical quibble about the meaning of a word, and totally ignoring the proof.	Dec 10 14:01
msb_	schestowitz__: As shown by the videos I link to, the govt investigation of 9-11 reeks of coverup, as did the Warren Commission investigation of the JFK assassination, Years later, another govt investigation concluded that JFK was murdered by a conspiracy. This is even mentioned in wikipedia. More than 2,000,000 people have been murdered, and several nations virtually destroyed, by the US and Israel using 9-11 as the pretext. How	Dec 10 14:12
msb_	many more have to die before people like you stop avoiding the evidence?	Dec 10 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/SwnSv7NXh9	Dec 10 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 14:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best KDE distro of 2014 http://t.co/3RD4R3tXNg	Dec 10 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2v5l	Dec 10 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best KDE distro of 2014 \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 14:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YcgBxZJ5GB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc2	Dec 10 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	awesome performance! http://t.co/yTwOPsxFd3	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc3	Dec 10 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply awesome performance! \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5bJrOQPGus (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc4	Dec 10 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014 \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Kozqd0yQnN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vc6	Dec 10 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 14:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla and Telenor Announce WebRTC Competency	Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	Center to Advance WebRTC and Help	Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	Standardization http://t.co/9aTc2TDvH4	Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vid	Dec 10 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla and Telenor Announce WebRTC Competency Center to Advance WebRTC and Help Standardization \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison	Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cU8vqZfCxp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vif	Dec 10 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Distros: What’s in a Name?	Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zlmHDTHYkM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vig	Dec 10 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Distros: What’s in a Name? \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source for sensitive email	Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2Uk0ZLPiRd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vxh	Dec 10 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source for sensitive email \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Developer Experimenting With Firefox UI	Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	In HTML http://t.co/ddIyyqioKh	Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vxj	Dec 10 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla Developer Experimenting With Firefox UI In HTML \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18	Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LhD97xUrxf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2vxl	Dec 10 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18 \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35 Beta Arrives with Conference Call	Dec 10 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	Features for Hello http://t.co/F9obsIUyAf	Dec 10 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2wls	Dec 10 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Firefox 35 Beta Arrives with Conference Call Features for Hello \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times	Dec 10 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ctqcXr2hkx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2wlt	Dec 10 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone	Dec 10 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/T8taJI4iDl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2wlv	Dec 10 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 17:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for	Dec 10 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	Embedded Devices Already http://t.co/tlREGlQrOW	Dec 10 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yb9	Dec 10 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for Embedded Devices Already \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support	Dec 10 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	32-Bit Linux http://t.co/zDk4ItC6iH	Dec 10 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybb	Dec 10 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support 32-Bit Linux \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Empire: Total War has officially launched on	Dec 10 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	Steam for Linux gamers." http://t.co/KN7GaZJWbX	Dec 10 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/53xUdKSF3h	Dec 10 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Empire Total War Launches For Linux Gamers		Dec 10 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 10 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Empire: Total War Shows Up in the Steam for Linux Library - Softpedia		Dec 10 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybs	Dec 10 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New	Dec 10 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1]	Dec 10 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YcrhLTfdxQ (www.webupd8.org)	Dec 10 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybu	Dec 10 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Dec 10 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Archive Manager #PeaZip 5.5.1 Lands	Dec 10 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	with Many Fixes	Dec 10 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vb4VjuqL6D (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 10 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ybv	Dec 10 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Open Source Archive Manager PeaZip 5.5.1 Lands with Many Fixes - Softpedia		Dec 10 20:25
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/oADAMo/status/542857024300523521	Dec 10 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oADAMo: @schestowitz Get a job trust fund baby!		Dec 10 20:47
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/542858861456007168	Dec 10 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (G. Orwell predicted it: Jounior Anti-Sex League)		Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MinnowBoard MAX Unboxing and Booting of	Dec 10 21:05
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen:Common http://t.co/flNPz5u9E0	Dec 10 21:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 10 21:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Video] MinnowBoard MAX Unboxing and Booting of Tizen:Common - Tizen Experts		Dec 10 21:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ypm	Dec 10 21:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Things to Do After You Install Fedora 21	Dec 10 21:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DiEKKK4eWg (www.linux.com)	Dec 10 21:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ypn	Dec 10 21:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 11 Things to Do After You Install Fedora 21 \| Linux.com		Dec 10 21:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 10 Semi-Autonomous Robots That Run Linux	Dec 10 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	(With Slideshow) http://t.co/gyzFANjwbc	Dec 10 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Dec 10 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2ypo	Dec 10 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Top 10 Semi-Autonomous Robots That Run Linux (With Slideshow) \| Linux.com		Dec 10 21:06
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/bitty31985/status/542862967138553856	Dec 10 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bitty31985: @schestowitz can you help by signing&Rt'ing so we can bring these sick #warcriminals to justice? http://t.co/3LVtYiFZxk #TortureReport		Dec 10 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> petitions.whitehouse.gov \| Arrest Dick Cheney and George W. Bush for crimes against Humanity \| We the People: Your Voice in Our Government		Dec 10 21:11
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542864353872314368	Dec 10 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz and how killing through drone strikes is perfectly humane		Dec 10 21:17
schestowitz__	That's portrayed in the media as always killing just terrorists; same with torture	Dec 10 21:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/illchangethis/status/542865651056906240	Dec 10 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@illchangethis: @schestowitz @pandymonium01 Another sign of how far right western politics has gone.Sigh!		Dec 10 21:18
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542866641038868480	Dec 10 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz but the question is clear. Is torture not ok while killing with drones is? It's a yes or no question		Dec 10 21:21
schestowitz__	I strongly oppose both and write thousands of times against drones...	Dec 10 21:21
cubexyz	there's nothing definite on Turla APT on Linux	Dec 10 21:25
cubexyz	there's cd00r.c which is a packet backdoor	Dec 10 21:26
cubexyz	nothing in the wild, so to speak	Dec 10 21:26
schestowitz__	is it a real threat?	Dec 10 21:26
schestowitz__	Or hyped up by Kaspersky?	Dec 10 21:26
schestowitz__	I could not find independent analyses?	Dec 10 21:26
cubexyz	there was something found at news-bbc.podzone.org	Dec 10 21:28
cubexyz	so kaspersky are saying to stay away from there	Dec 10 21:28
cubexyz	there's an md5 listed for the executable	Dec 10 21:29
cubexyz	just watch for oddball statically linked executables which don't belong :)	Dec 10 21:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5283695	Dec 10 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What is rather sickening yet endemic in Western media is that the #torture question is framed as a debate, as if pro-torture 'legitimate'		Dec 10 21:30
schestowitz__	"	Dec 10 21:30
schestowitz__	The truth is treated as subjective. This is the problem with most news media.	Dec 10 21:30
schestowitz__	I remember almost blowing a gasket when I heard on the radio "[Someone] says Sam Brownback lowered taxes last year, but others disagree."	Dec 10 21:30
schestowitz__	"	Dec 10 21:30
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5283606	Dec 10 21:30
schestowitz__	"audacious is one of my favorite audio players since a while...'	Dec 10 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] http://www.webupd8.org/2014/12/audacious-switches-back-to-gtk2-adds.html #gtk #gtk3 #gtk2		Dec 10 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org \| Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/j2yxr ]		Dec 10 21:30
cubexyz	e.g. if you saw ./Tur.1 running... it's not likely though	Dec 10 21:31
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542867170796249090 https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542867495108247552	Dec 10 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz ok at least you're honest. But nobody seems to have any other suggestions as to how to obtain info from detainees.		Dec 10 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz when all other methods were attempted. Torture was NOT a first option		Dec 10 21:32
schestowitz__	Loaded question: assumes we need this info AND can extract it (if it exists)	Dec 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone	Dec 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/anW0FkH38v (jimlynch.com)	Dec 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yyl	Dec 10 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com \| Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone – Jim Lynch		Dec 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Modular Smartphone Wants to Offer Ubuntu,	Dec 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	SailfishOS http://t.co/glYsNgHthN	Dec 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Dec 10 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yym	Dec 10 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| New Modular Ara-like Phone Hopes to Offer Ubuntu, SailfishOS		Dec 10 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A looking glass for GTK+ http://t.co/DZCWVuidLI	Dec 10 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	(blogs.gnome.org)	Dec 10 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org \| A looking glass for GTK+ \| Goings on		Dec 10 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2yyn	Dec 10 21:34
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542870715071217665	Dec 10 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz WOW! We don't need this info to protect America from further terrorism? You can't be that stupid. Jesus buy a clue		Dec 10 21:37
schestowitz__	Jesus is a myth	Dec 10 21:37
schestowitz__	Just like your assumptions about intel' gathering.	Dec 10 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem	Dec 10 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/S7rOuX3ATj (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 10 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z0n	Dec 10 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem · LinuxGizmos.com		Dec 10 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Distros: What’s in a Name?	Dec 10 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/13KurFae5L (fossforce.com)	Dec 10 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z0o	Dec 10 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Linux Distros: What's in a Name? \| FOSS Force		Dec 10 21:39
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542871076297248768	Dec 10 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz sticking your head in the sand about the threat on your life and the lives of your family is desperate liberalism		Dec 10 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison	Dec 10 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zFg1QMvyb3 (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 10 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z0p	Dec 10 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison		Dec 10 21:39
schestowitz__	Securing the lives of "Americans" US abroad usually about occupying troops. Bring them back home.	Dec 10 21:40
schestowitz__	"Americans" (US)	Dec 10 21:40
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542871330178469888	Dec 10 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz Ok you are clearly crazy and if are truly a dr (which I can't believe) you shouldn't be. God speed idiot		Dec 10 21:41
schestowitz__	Insults fight... not my spiel. Bye. :-)	Dec 10 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Breaking down the Red Hat QA process	Dec 10 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TmYbuhhN5B (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 10 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	#security response: https://t.co/GHpdacxNZZ	Dec 10 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Breaking down the Red Hat QA process \| ZDNet		Dec 10 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	(securityblog.redhat.com)	Dec 10 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z2v	Dec 10 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/12/10/analysis-of-the-cve-2013-6435-flaw-in-rpm/ )		Dec 10 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines No release for the Tizen Samsung Z1 today, but	Dec 10 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	over $1.7m worth of SM-Z130H parts imported to	Dec 10 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	India http://t.co/LQb8HiPofW	Dec 10 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 10 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| No release for the Tizen Samsung Z1 today, but over $1.7m worth of SM-Z130H parts imported to India - Tizen Experts		Dec 10 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z2w	Dec 10 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt 5.4 released http://t.co/YKMpFMNyYi	Dec 10 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.qt.digia.com)	Dec 10 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2z2x	Dec 10 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.qt.digia.com \| Qt 5.4 released \| Qt Blog		Dec 10 21:46
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/Football__Tweet/status/542802411006746624	Dec 10 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Football__Tweet: AS Roma might be regretting this tweet now. #ASRoma #MCFC http://t.co/4k6ePrHcmf		Dec 10 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Football__Tweet: AS Roma might be regretting this tweet now. #ASRoma #MCFC http://t.co/4k6ePrHcmf		Dec 10 21:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler,	Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung #Slush2014 http://t.co/JnbGcZZoKy	Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 10 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014 - Tizen Experts		Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zai	Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine 3.1.0 released http://t.co/N4H0kD7plD	Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.alpinelinux.org)	Dec 10 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org \| Alpine 3.1.0 released \| Alpine Linux		Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zaj	Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18	Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zOyx1AhE5h (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zak	Dec 10 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18 - Softpedia		Dec 10 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine 3.1.0 released http://t.co/z1KfJi15qA	Dec 10 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 10 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zb1	Dec 10 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Alpine 3.1.0 released \| Tux Machines		Dec 10 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times	Dec 10 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nykpg50Y6o (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 10 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zb2	Dec 10 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times		Dec 10 22:12
*TweetTuxMachines @fjmorales favourited 'F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot...'		Dec 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for	Dec 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	Embedded Devices Already http://t.co/cD6AcK27tk	Dec 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 10 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for Embedded Devices Already - Softpedia		Dec 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zf1	Dec 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support	Dec 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	32-Bit Linux http://t.co/EfR115rdyD	Dec 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 10 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support 32-Bit Linux		Dec 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j2zf2	Dec 10 22:25
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542887228293132288	Dec 10 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz Now you're just being paranoid. Like saying Canonical can access your Ubuntu laptop because they could put malware in it.		Dec 10 22:44
schestowitz__	false analogy	Dec 10 22:45
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542887670465040384	Dec 10 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz if you have some proof that Google is putting keyloggers into Chromebooks to get your passwords, then by all means share! :P		Dec 10 22:45
schestowitz__	No keyloggers, straw man...	Dec 10 22:45
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888000258969600	Dec 10 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz please explain how Google can access the laptop that doesn't involve some malware or backdoor that someone would've found?		Dec 10 22:46
schestowitz__	According to WSJ, FBI has remote access to Android	Dec 10 22:46
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888092298792961	Dec 10 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz okay I'm just not sure what it is that you're proposing as the method for Google to steal people's passwords (for the NSA?)		Dec 10 22:47
schestowitz__	Google is in PRISM and Snowden leaks showed that NSA targets sysadmins for their passwords on 'cloud'	Dec 10 22:47
schestowitz__	to compromise networks all around the world	Dec 10 22:48
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888553735147522	Dec 10 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz that's news. Does the FBI have to install an app first? And Android isn't used in Chromebooks except for some app compat stuff.		Dec 10 22:49
schestowitz__	WSJ did not explain how FBI does this, but collaboration on backdoor access (like with Microsoft) likely	Dec 10 22:49
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/explanoit/status/542888560333193216	Dec 10 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@explanoit: @schestowitz @jhamby they have access to phones through 0days and baseband firmware. There's no "install key logger" command at Google.		Dec 10 22:50
schestowitz__	Cellphones come with a second OS ('smart' phone) that can remotely rake over the first one	Dec 10 22:50
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889078937513984 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889142862888962	Dec 10 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@explanoit @schestowitz yeah, Google has done a lot of questionable stuff, but intentionally backdooring Android isn't one of them AFAIK.		Dec 10 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz ok so you've admitted you're just making shit up now. Got it.		Dec 10 22:52
schestowitz__	Google only recently claimed that it was finally trying to lock FBI out	Dec 10 22:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889369783107584	Dec 10 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz there's a lot of factual info in book "@/War" about where Microsoft & Google actually do collaborate, but it's not like that.		Dec 10 22:52
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542890155745366017	Dec 10 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz okay, but it's more of "not trying hard enough" to block 0-days than "intentionally adding them to make things easy for FBI".		Dec 10 22:55
schestowitz__	Informing the NSA about 0-days before fixing them effectively the same as sharing backdoor info	Dec 10 22:55
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542890406698967040	Dec 10 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz I'd like to know more about what kinds of baseband exploits are out there. It's shared mem so the BP could easily take control.		Dec 10 22:56
schestowitz__	There was confirmation of this last year and the year before that	Dec 10 22:56
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/suprfluo/status/542890608621551617	Dec 10 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suprfluo: @schestowitz @jhamby actually the report was about the FBI using malware to access Android.		Dec 10 22:56
schestowitz__	FBI can remotely activate Android and laptop microphones, reports WSJ http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4580718/fbi-can-remotely-activate-android-and-laptop-microphones-reports-wsj	Dec 10 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| FBI can remotely activate Android and laptop microphones, reports WSJ \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/j2zq1 ]		Dec 10 22:58
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891039258714112	Dec 10 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz right, but if you take the facts and then jump to the farthest conclusion, assuming that tech is eager to jump in bed w/ spies.		Dec 10 22:59
schestowitz__	tech is used as a jumping board for spies	Dec 10 22:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891368566116352	Dec 10 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @suprfluo that story's over a year old now, and it talks about the FBI having to implant malware to do such things.		Dec 10 22:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891651036102656	Dec 10 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz sometimes they're both, yes. Sometimes corporate spies steal trade secrets and sell them to other companies. No NSA needed.		Dec 10 23:01
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891823832637442 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891898268950528 https://twitter.com/suprfluo/status/542891979244576769	Dec 10 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz you seem to see these big tech companies as monolithic entities with basically malevolent intentions, and I find that tech does		Dec 10 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz the most harm and commits the most evil out of their good intentions to "make the world a better place" with #meritocracy. :/		Dec 10 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suprfluo: @schestowitz @jhamby yeah by installing malware, I'd suggest boarding your research from a random regurgitation by the verge.		Dec 10 23:04
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542892138166378496	Dec 10 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm more concerned with the unintended side effects of technology than the idea that Google wants to steal all your passwords.		Dec 10 23:04
schestowitz__	google does not need your passwords. Straw man again.	Dec 10 23:04
schestowitz__	With the exception perhaps of AT&T and Microsoft, which give spies the red carpet, tech companies exploited by spies	Dec 10 23:07
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/QhaBhuti/status/542894034088652800	Dec 10 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QhaBhuti: @jhamby sigh! Jake your patience is legendary @schestowitz		Dec 10 23:15
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schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/explanoit/status/542896411676008448	Dec 10 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@explanoit: @schestowitz @jhamby I said baseband		Dec 10 23:21
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/N_is_Een/status/538314267658031105 https://twitter.com/dougpete/status/538661732030627841	Dec 10 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@N_is_Een: All your #Firefox-keystrokes are belong to #Microsoft and possibly #NSA: http://t.co/NqaPodYiWn Et Tu, Mozilla?		Dec 10 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Mozilla Will Relay Firefox User Input (Even Keystrokes) to Microsoft and the NSA Through Yahoo in the US \| Techrights		Dec 10 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dougpete: This article will make you think - http://t.co/gJ2GywPh7u		Dec 10 23:26
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/CDSRV/status/542897969004281856	Dec 10 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CDSRV: @schestowitz : cool concept		Dec 10 23:26
schestowitz__	http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904	Dec 10 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com \| Heavy Censorship in Pakistan Shows Why the Next Arab Spring Won't Be on Facebook \| Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/j047z ]		Dec 10 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Iran Upholds Death Sentence for Photographer Who Insulted Prophet on Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/j3050 ]		Dec 10 23:47
schestowitz__	http://qz.com/308023/facebook-is-making-employees-read-chinese-propaganda-to-impress-beijing/	Dec 10 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com \| Facebook is making employees read Chinese propaganda to impress Beijing – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/j3052 ]		Dec 10 23:47
schestowitz__	==	Dec 10 23:47
schestowitz__	older:	Dec 10 23:47
schestowitz__	http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing	Dec 10 23:47
schestowitz__	http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904	Dec 10 23:47
schestowitz__	==	Dec 10 23:47
schestowitz__	==	Dec 10 23:51
schestowitz__	http://opensource.com/government/14/12/open-source-sensitive-materials-email	Dec 10 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Open source email for government \| Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/j3067 ]		Dec 10 23:51
schestowitz__	No mention of encryption.	Dec 10 23:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Steam Computes Linux Sales	Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fdWtWUfkuX (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30c8	Dec 11 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| How Steam Computes Linux Sales \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multi-Layer Support Coming To OverlayFS In	Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/VqCHIDLhoR	Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Multi-Layer Support Coming To OverlayFS In Linux 3.19		Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30ca	Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their	Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	mettle http://t.co/aUNh8OsOzP	Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.infoworld.com)	Dec 11 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their mettle \| InfoWorld		Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30cb	Dec 11 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their	Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	mettle http://t.co/0VKs5D0C4V	Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30cf	Dec 11 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their mettle \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 21 http://t.co/zq054onRjc	Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30ci	Dec 11 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 21 \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/8nLFJVZVDD	Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j30ck	Dec 11 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/r5NrjGpDr6	Dec 11 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j315v	Dec 11 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/MmFqcBxIg3	Dec 11 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j315x	Dec 11 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/12/2014: systemd 218, Empire Total War	Dec 11 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oPeGEhJjUK (techrights.org)	Dec 11 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j315y	Dec 11 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 11/12/2014: systemd 218, Empire Total War \| Techrights		Dec 11 01:50
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neobii	howdy, does anyone know a channel where they talk about business law?	Dec 11 02:18
msb_	neobii: do an advanced google search for search irc channels	Dec 11 02:23
msb_	neobii: you get several irc search sites	Dec 11 02:23
neobii	well I did "contract law" freenode and it brought me here and #techbytes	Dec 11 02:24
msb_	I just typed /join #law to freenode and got a channel ##law with 53 people in it	Dec 11 02:28
msb_	neobii: so ask in ##law about contract law	Dec 11 02:31
msb_	Google is your friend, except when it reports you to the NSA.	Dec 11 02:31
neobii	ah, yeah sometimes my queries are too specific haha	Dec 11 02:33
msb_	In the 1980s I was doing programming for the AIDS Clinic of San Francisco General Hospital. I had to give a talk on database usage for the staff, but I couldn't use the word "query" because the gay men might be insulted!	Dec 11 02:37
MinceR	lol	Dec 11 02:40
msb_	It was a great place to work, until I found out that an AIDS patient was using my computer when I wasn't there. That was before it was learned that HIV isn't contagious by touch. I, uh, buggered off.	Dec 11 02:42
MinceR	:>	Dec 11 02:44
msb_	They had a great RDBMS on their IBM-PCs. I think it was ported from Unix. Can't remember the name now.	Dec 11 02:53
msb_	I think it was Informix.	Dec 11 02:58
msb_	I didn't tell them it was my first DBMS experience. Just got a couple of books and read up on it.	Dec 11 03:00
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5284110	Dec 11 05:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook does not give people a voice; it uses (exploits) their voice (and name), selectively, to promote Facebook-centric agenda		Dec 11 05:16
schestowitz__	"Promotes the agenda of corporate and government owners - Microsoft, NSA, etc. It's what Rupert Murdoch was unable to make out of MySpace."	Dec 11 05:16
schestowitz__	Not enough people were willing to participate	Dec 11 05:16
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5284111	Dec 11 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Look how 'well' #facebook worked for these people http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904 real name policy, Zuck?		Dec 11 05:18
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com \| Heavy Censorship in Pakistan Shows Why the Next Arab Spring Won't Be on Facebook \| Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/j047z ]		Dec 11 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Iran Upholds Death Sentence for Photographer Who Insulted Prophet on Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/j3050 ]		Dec 11 05:18
schestowitz__	when I was using Lantern, the proxy, I saw almost as many people connecting from Pakistan as from China.	Dec 11 05:18
schestowitz__	I'm not sure I trust Lantern anymore. Any advice on this? Lantern	Dec 11 05:18
schestowitz__	It's best to just avoid platforms like Facebook, with or without anonymity	Dec 11 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Linux Works Is an OS Mechanic's Mainstay	Dec 11 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hiZYBzvnXp (www.linuxinsider.com)	Dec 11 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33dz	Dec 11 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| How Linux Works Is an OS Mechanic's Mainstay \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Dec 11 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Was 2014 "The Year of Linux Desktop"?	Dec 11 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KHMNKlLygE (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33hn	Dec 11 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Was 2014 "The Year of Linux Desktop"? - Softpedia		Dec 11 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of	Dec 11 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	2014? http://t.co/bnAN16MDUg (jimlynch.com)	Dec 11 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33jz	Dec 11 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com \| Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? – Jim Lynch		Dec 11 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops	Dec 11 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/n1gDrXiBJr (www.datamation.com)	Dec 11 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33k0	Dec 11 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com \| My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops - Datamation		Dec 11 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wnbZlPdzHQ (www.dedoimedo.com)	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33m5	Dec 11 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com \| Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant		Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	2014? http://t.co/oBCRtSgO71	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33m7	Dec 11 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DG1No8DYop (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33m9	Dec 11 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The truth about the thick skin of a community	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	manager http://t.co/pmltVlOrGz	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33ma	Dec 11 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The truth about the thick skin of a community manager \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Ruled 2014, Codenames, and Steam Linux	Dec 11 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	Sales http://t.co/8lY8xdoNdg	Dec 11 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33mb	Dec 11 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Ruled 2014, Codenames, and Steam Linux Sales \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant	Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/B3lgRjrV4T (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33yc	Dec 11 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gentoo mailing lists down	Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ottXTviBZV	Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	(dilfridge.blogspot.co.uk)	Dec 11 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilfridge.blogspot.co.uk \| the dilfridge blog: Gentoo mailing lists down		Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33yd	Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux	Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	Tahr 6.0 CE http://t.co/QADT9pgZvr	Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.everydaylinuxuser.com)	Dec 11 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux Tahr 6.0 CE « Everyday Linux User		Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33ye	Dec 11 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ttx939aVut (www.zdnet.com) "I've	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	only started playing with Fedora"	Dec 11 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here \| ZDNet		Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33zt	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 6 of the Best Open Source Holiday Gifts for	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	SMBs http://t.co/PtIE9gx2e6	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33zv	Dec 11 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 6 of the Best Open Source Holiday Gifts for SMBs \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why your organisation will thank you for going	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	open source http://t.co/kX6Jqz6ZaP	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j33zz	Dec 11 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why your organisation will thank you for going open source \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	Happen. http://t.co/ntsMWl3Kz3	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3401	Dec 11 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to Happen. \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux	Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	Tahr 6.0 CE http://t.co/qDO5kvjjGc	Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j342w	Dec 11 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux Tahr 6.0 CE \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here	Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7sRX6DajLw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j342y	Dec 11 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already	Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	Available in Linux Systems	Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wZyNBOeO7S (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 07:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3431	Dec 11 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already Available in Linux Systems - Softpedia		Dec 11 07:29
*TweetTuxMachines @neozerdrakon retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already...'		Dec 11 07:29
*TweetTuxMachines @neozerdrakon favourited 'Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already...'		Dec 11 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack,	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9PHqKXa8xA (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qk	Dec 11 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack, Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On - Softpedia		Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	Available in Linux Systems	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6pjjNQCEuy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qm	Dec 11 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already Available in Linux Systems \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multiple http://t.co/5vV90o4wJB (www.x.org)	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	Vulnerabilities Found, One Is from 1987	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ldje1tsPIk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qo	Dec 11 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org \| xorg		Dec 11 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Multiple X.Org Vulnerabilities Found, One Is from 1987 \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack,	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/N6vGdBMsLJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qp	Dec 11 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack, Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked On \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MongoDB gets its first native analytics tool	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7uABfZNaSI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j34qq	Dec 11 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MongoDB gets its first native analytics tool \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 08:43
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'MongoDB gets its first native analytics tool http://t.co/7uABfZNaSI'		Dec 11 08:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already	Dec 11 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Available in Linux Systems	Dec 11 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	@SerbianLinuks http://t.co/wZyNBOeO7S (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 11 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35bj	Dec 11 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already Available in Linux Systems - Softpedia		Dec 11 09:47
*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks favourited 'Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are Already...'		Dec 11 09:47
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285453	Dec 11 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft loves Linux. #gnu #linux gives Microsoft ideas... of things to copy, clone, then claim credit for.		Dec 11 09:50
schestowitz_bed2	"Copying is fine in the FOSS culture. The problem is that they try to promote copied ideas as "innovation". Apple does that too."	Dec 11 09:50
schestowitz_bed2	"But Microsoft isn't the only one who does that. Ask Apple for more information.'	Dec 11 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a	Dec 11 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	Fundraiser https://t.co/MxBb0Qcjzo	Dec 11 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	(dot.kde.org)	Dec 11 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35ih	Dec 11 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a Fundraiser \| KDE.news		Dec 11 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cabinet office Plugfest builds momentum for ODF	Dec 11 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cRB4vrFf9v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35ij	Dec 11 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cabinet office Plugfest builds momentum for ODF \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a	Dec 11 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	Fundraiser http://t.co/Av5HRgisL5	Dec 11 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35ik	Dec 11 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GCompris Joins the KDE incubator and Launches a Fundraiser \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 10:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/e9dNpmPzgp (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 10:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w4	Dec 11 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel		Dec 11 10:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Device May Come Instead http://t.co/JMCrEVogmm	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Dec 11 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android Device May Come Instead \| Ubuntu content from The VAR Guy		Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w5	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Linux machines using Systemback	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Nln3iCClA5 (www.techrepublic.com)	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w6	Dec 11 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based Linux machines using Systemback - TechRepublic		Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Go 1.4 is released http://t.co/hWmQ1St9iB	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35w8	Dec 11 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Go 1.4 is released \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mwsuC1kMZW (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wa	Dec 11 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 Kernel \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Device May Come Instead http://t.co/H71ZvOx8S1	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wc	Dec 11 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android Device May Come Instead \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Linux machines using Systemback	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nAJukl1Rsm (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j35wh	Dec 11 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-based Linux machines using Systemback \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OPNFV Adds New Members to Open Source SDN/NFV	Dec 11 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Project http://t.co/KBskUDprAA	Dec 11 10:44
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schestowitz_bed2	"In 2013, "There were two mass appeals against Investigation Guidelines	Dec 11 10:51
schestowitz_bed2	(Circular 341, 342). One mass appeal with 89 appellants, the second with 61."	Dec 11 10:51
schestowitz_bed2	<a href="https://www.epo.org/modules/epoweb/acdocument/epoweb2/133/en/CA-55-14_en.pdf"></a>	Dec 11 10:51
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schestowitz_bed2	aka "Microsoft Word ec14055.docx" which means Microsoft has an inside track on	Dec 11 10:51
schestowitz_bed2	all of this.	Dec 11 10:51
schestowitz_bed2	>	Dec 11 11:22
schestowitz_bed2	> Just to let you know that we enjoyed the series so far and are looking	Dec 11 11:22
schestowitz_bed2	> forward to the continuation.	Dec 11 11:22
schestowitz_bed2	> We attach a copy of the letter in French.	Dec 11 11:24
schestowitz_bed2	> Unfortunately we don't have a translation available at the moment.	Dec 11 11:24
schestowitz_bed2	me:	Dec 11 11:27
schestowitz_bed2	"	Dec 11 11:27
schestowitz_bed2	There are enough weekly posts drafted to last until Christmas. Slow but persistent, I think, is what will help shake up perceptions and cause public opinion to shift.	Dec 11 11:27
schestowitz_bed2	Any other documents you can send and won't cause trouble if published help saturate the search engines with relevant names, places, and expose the reader to some contextual scandals.	Dec 11 11:27
schestowitz_bed2	With series like these, which do not directly target the regular readers (subscribers, mostly FOSS proponents in our case), the "premium" target is people who are involved and mentioned in the scandals or their colleagues/partners.	Dec 11 11:27
schestowitz_bed2	Vestna Stilin wrote a response to an article from the Zurich folks. I was curious about that article. My wife and I then checked her name and Google. Results #1 was -- you've guessed it -- IPWatch and the article about her fight with Topic. Not quite the clients magnet, is it...?	Dec 11 11:27
schestowitz_bed2	Either way, I can assure you I'll make available online what need to be online and won't divulge identities. I never did, in all the past leaks in the site.	Dec 11 11:27
schestowitz_bed2	"	Dec 11 11:27
schestowitz_bed2	http://techrights.org/2014/12/11/france-vs-battistelli/	Dec 11 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| France Gets Involved in Battistelli’s Abuses in the EPO – Part XII \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j36bx ]		Dec 11 11:34
schestowitz_bed2	Could you help by providing an English translation of the letter in French?	Dec 11 11:34
schestowitz_bed2	http://techrights.org/2014/12/11/epo-staff-backlash/ (Rolling of Heads Likely Imminent at EPO)	Dec 11 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Rolling of Heads Likely Imminent at EPO \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j36cd ]		Dec 11 11:35
schestowitz_bed2	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285379	Dec 11 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I'd hate to link to Dietrich, but this response to #Turla is right on point http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2014/12/linux-turla-malware-infection-not-going.html		Dec 11 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxadvocates.com \| Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to Happen. ~ Linux Advocates [ http://ur1.ca/j36p3 ]		Dec 11 12:18
schestowitz_bed2	"I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day."	Dec 11 12:18
schestowitz_bed2	LOL	Dec 11 12:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now Available	Dec 11 13:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort	Dec 11 13:25
TweetTuxMachines	AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100	Dec 11 13:25
TweetTuxMachines	companies http://t.co/4FoZ7jsPAo	Dec 11 13:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 13:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100 companies \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes	Dec 11 13:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Joyent Offers Linux Branded Zones, Extends	Dec 11 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	Docker Engine as Container Service	Dec 11 13:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Second Beta for LibreOffice 4.4 Is Now Ready	Dec 11 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	for Testing http://t.co/LTkYIQAoRh	Dec 11 13:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Second Beta for LibreOffice 4.4 Is Now Ready for Testing \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Trine Enchanted Edition For Linux Released	Dec 11 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mbeHaEYRbX (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 11 13:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Trine Enchanted Edition For Linux Released \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 11 13:26
schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110168989683712 https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543109406255497216	Dec 11 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Cracking down on the #internet is always about pedophiles, terrorists, and "pirates" http:// (...) http://t.co/aViDG8ejhf		Dec 11 13:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Evo Morales Slams Richest Countries over Global Warming http://t.co/1YAMKx0iTJ good leader. #morales		Dec 11 13:30
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schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110526956736512	Dec 11 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: #amazon has just gotten even more evil https://t.co/z2ykYe5wiZ a friend of mine resigned last week. http://t.co/GdUHJdw1zP		Dec 11 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> soylentnews.org \| SCOTUS Finds in Favor of Amazon, No Pay for Mandatory Security Screenings - SoylentNews		Dec 11 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Amazon - Techrights		Dec 11 13:30
schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110640836280321	Dec 11 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Trine Enchanted Edition For #Linux Released http://t.co/cyDPuYXqLh #games		Dec 11 13:31
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sebsebseb	hi	Dec 11 13:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings Mixed	Dec 11 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	Results For Linux Users http://t.co/vfdysHG8Z4	Dec 11 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j37sa	Dec 11 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings Mixed Results For Linux Users		Dec 11 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes	Dec 11 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sY50ulmCFS (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 11 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j37sb	Dec 11 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes		Dec 11 14:08
schestowitz_bed2	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543119617636696065	Dec 11 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: #gnu #linux more prominent in the #games world now http://t.co/5MMwweyTgU		Dec 11 14:10
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schestowitz_bed2	hi GinghamPenguin	Dec 11 14:10
GinghamPenguin	Hello	Dec 11 14:10
schestowitz_bed2	new here, so I thought I'd say hi	Dec 11 14:15
msb_	GinghamPenguin: What kind of Linux are you using?	Dec 11 14:16
GinghamPenguin	I'm new as well. I've got crunchbang on my laptop.	Dec 11 14:17
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msb_	Streamlined, efficient -- looks good!	Dec 11 14:19
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GinghamPenguin	msb_: I haven't settled on a long term distro yet. I've been hopping and tweaking for way too long. I come back to crunchbang in between sessions	Dec 11 14:20
GinghamPenguin	It's my home base	Dec 11 14:21
msb_	I just stay with OpenSuse. Once I got all my weird hardware and zillions of scripts running I just let it stay.	Dec 11 14:22
schestowitz__	debian based...	Dec 11 14:22
schestowitz__	#!	Dec 11 14:22
msb_	Does crunchbang use systemd? That's the big controversy these days.	Dec 11 14:22
GinghamPenguin	That's a can of worms right there. I've seen some HEATED systemd vs init arguments	Dec 11 14:24
GinghamPenguin	It's never pretty	Dec 11 14:24
msb_	I'm solidly anti. Violates too many foundational Unix principles.	Dec 11 14:25
GinghamPenguin	I understand that. I also know that most new linux users don't know enough to care.	Dec 11 14:27
msb_	I just found a shim that emulates pulseaudio from alsa. Allows skype to run.	Dec 11 14:28
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285620	Dec 11 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fox 'news' taunts people who speak out against #police #racism http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/12/10/foxs-rivera-lebron-james-should-wear-be-a-bette/201842 #nypd #EricGarner		Dec 11 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org \| Fox's Rivera: LeBron James Should Wear "Be A Better Father" Shirt Instead Of "I Can't Breathe" \| Video \| Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/j3811 ]		Dec 11 14:29
schestowitz__	"Lebron James could definitely learn lessons about fatherhood from a man whose own son is ashamed of him. Definitely and absolutely."	Dec 11 14:29
schestowitz__	"When the Wall Street people responsible of the mortgage fraud and the US government people responsible of torture are thrown in a dungeon forever, I might hear why selling cigarettes in the street deserves to be killed for."	Dec 11 14:29
msb_	I think that's the way. People are working on various shims to enable systemd-requiring apps to run with sysvinit systems.	Dec 11 14:29
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285225	Dec 11 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/is-linux-mint-17-1-really-the-best-desktop-of-2014/ #gnu #linux #linuxmint #fedora		Dec 11 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? – Jim Lynch		Dec 11 14:30
schestowitz__	"Yes, I've followed your reporting on that very closely. Thank you for writing about it."	Dec 11 14:30
msb_	Some cigarettes sold on the street are very beneficial.	Dec 11 14:31
GinghamPenguin	As a linux tinkerer, I don't have much of a horse in the systemd debate. I understand the concerns, but am mostly watching from the sidelines.	Dec 11 14:32
msb_	I think the vastly increased communication ability of the Net will eventually bring the end of all this tyranny.	Dec 11 14:32
msb_	GinghamPenguin: Likewise here.	Dec 11 14:32
schestowitz__	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5287004	Dec 11 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa uses #fedora and senior Fedora staff told me NSA passes to them patches to put in #linux (which I'm not sure is a good thing at all)		Dec 11 14:33
schestowitz__	"source?"	Dec 11 14:33
schestowitz__	"yeah, gonna need some source on that,	Dec 11 14:33
schestowitz__	"	Dec 11 14:33
msb_	But at least I'm learning how Linux boots up, which I didn't know before.	Dec 11 14:33
GinghamPenguin	Yup! It's good stuff to learn	Dec 11 14:33
schestowitz__	"also something to note, RHEL is used by the US military, so i wouldnt be surprised if fedora was used for things to, and other us agencies had their hands in it"	Dec 11 14:33
schestowitz__	Red Hat makes systemd	Dec 11 14:34
msb_	My version is still sysvinit, which is another good reason for not upgrading, so I can learn from it.	Dec 11 14:34
schestowitz__	Fedora is used by NSA for some data collection (wireless), based on Snowden leaks. Fedora staff told me about NSA role by E-mail.	Dec 11 14:35
msb_	schestowitz__: yes, that's the theory on at least one of the anti-systemd sites -- US fascist govt is using systemd to infiltrate (or adopt, control and extinguish) Linux.	Dec 11 14:37
msb_	And it's doing it through RedHat.	Dec 11 14:37
GinghamPenguin	I wonder if they use it because it works (and not for nefarious reasons)	Dec 11 14:37
msb_	But they all work -- Suse, Debian, ...	Dec 11 14:38
GinghamPenguin	Of course. But the NSA is going to have to use _something_.	Dec 11 14:39
msb_	But I guess RedHat was the first big famous one, so maybe that's what the govt started with.	Dec 11 14:39
GinghamPenguin	No matter what they choose, someone is going to be suspicious.	Dec 11 14:39
GinghamPenguin	And RedHat provides support, which makes sense.	Dec 11 14:40
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msb_	But it just so happens that Poettering works for RedHat.	Dec 11 14:41
msb_	And he also wrote pulseaudio, and when M	Dec 11 14:42
msb_	when MS ate skype, it forced Linux users to use pulseaudio.	Dec 11 14:42
GinghamPenguin	I dropped skype when that happened :(	Dec 11 14:43
msb_	In any effort to sabotage Linux, Microsoft is going to be in there somewhere.	Dec 11 14:43
msb_	I have a few friends that I can't get to use Linux.	Dec 11 14:44
GinghamPenguin	I have to use Windows for work (and for wife).	Dec 11 14:44
msb_	I like IHU for VOIP. it's very easy to get going, but Linux only.	Dec 11 14:45
GinghamPenguin	I haven't tried it. See, I came in here for a reason. I'll check it out.	Dec 11 14:45
GinghamPenguin	The techrights page is really rough on mobile.	Dec 11 14:46
msb_	http://ihu.sourceforge.net/	Dec 11 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net \| I Hear U (IHU) Project Homepage		Dec 11 14:46
msb_	For ihu, the i386 binary linked with static libs version works with old and current Suse, but only 32bit. For 64bit, hopefully compiling it from source will work.	Dec 11 14:49
GinghamPenguin	I will have to compile from source, then. It'll give me something to do this weekend. Afk	Dec 11 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort	Dec 11 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100	Dec 11 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	companies http://t.co/NUYvac4HOT	Dec 11 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.open-electronics.org)	Dec 11 15:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.open-electronics.org \| Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100 companies \| Open Electronics		Dec 11 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now Available	Dec 11 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/K2snhHYh8q (www.redhat.com)	Dec 11 15:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com \| Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now Available \| Red Hat		Dec 11 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 15:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel		Dec 11 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings Mixed	Dec 11 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	Results For Linux Users http://t.co/qdb3Ym1OLF	Dec 11 15:01
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schestowitz__	>>> >> " you cannot decide to not charge Google News. It is	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>>> >> compulsory. More than a right it is an obligation"	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>>> >>	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>>> >> http://searchengineland.com/spain-ready-enact-google-tax-forcing-company-pay-content-links-198171	Dec 11 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchengineland.com \| Spanish Law To Force Google To Index And Pay For Local News [ http://ur1.ca/j392a ]		Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>>> >>	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>>> >> No opt-out for the magazines and newspapers, etc.	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>> >	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>> > I support Google's exit from the market or removal of sites that	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>> > complain. If they don't want it, then fine. If they want it, say thank	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>> > you to Google and stop bitching about having a broken business model.	Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz__	>> >	Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz__	>> > Google does some bad things; this isn't one of them.	Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz__	> Agreed. The Spanish government is out of touch with reality on this one.	Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz__	> If they decide the case also applies to regular searches then it will	Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz__	> be really crazy.	Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz__	That would potentially be a next step. There's little difference between the two except age of results.	Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5286919	Dec 11 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Creative writing teacher resigns after student writes about Jesus, pot http://www.koat.com/news/creative-writing-teacher-resigns-after-student-writes-about-jesus-pot/30128384 "Jesus handing out marijuana to the sick."		Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz__	"I want to read it. the kid should be earning on that copyright"	Dec 11 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.koat.com \| Creative writing teacher resigns after student writes about Jesus, pot \| New Mexico News - KOAT Home [ http://ur1.ca/j383e ]		Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5287622	Dec 11 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "America can be a brutal superpower, especially when -- as rarely happens -- it is attacked." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/torture-report-mccain_n_6300730.html even pro-actively		Dec 11 16:36
schestowitz__	"Can be? Interesting. I didn't know it ever took a break. Pretty sure every living elected president, and GW Bush, could be tried and hanged at the Hague. Except maybe Carter(?)."	Dec 11 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com \| Planet Politics: America's Bloody Conscience [ http://ur1.ca/j392o ]		Dec 11 16:36
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5287342	Dec 11 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "13 alleged militants"..."allegedly involved" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/us-drone-strikes-pakistan-afghanistan-kill-13-militants this is not accurate and it's mass #assassination		Dec 11 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| US drone strikes kill 13 alleged militants in Pakistan and Afghanistan \| World news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/j392s ]		Dec 11 16:36
schestowitz__	""13 alleged militants"..."allegedly involved" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/us-drone-strikes-pakistan-afghanistan-kill-13-militants this is not accurate and it's mass #assassination"	Dec 11 16:36
schestowitz__	Nope, years ago I read it's over 16... recently 14 or 15	Dec 11 16:37
schestowitz__	"Remember, any male aged 18 or over is considered a militant now."	Dec 11 16:37
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5286880	Dec 11 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: More "more attacks on privacy under this rubric" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30426164 always "for the children", like #uk #censorship filters		Dec 11 16:37
schestowitz__	"Hard to argue against child protection, so dark net no more for anyone else"	Dec 11 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - GCHQ to help tackle 'dark net' child abuse images		Dec 11 16:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SOS Open Source is Now Open Source!	Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yzpmcP9W2z (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j398m	Dec 11 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SOS Open Source is Now Open Source! \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel	Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SKMOrpGQzT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j398n	Dec 11 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Tizen Development Tools Version 14.03.1	Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	Released http://t.co/KvIwhBWgXs	Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 11 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Announcement] New Tizen Development Tools Version 14.03.1 Released - Tizen Experts		Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j398o	Dec 11 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Our approach to software and ongoing support	Dec 11 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	for the first Fairphones	Dec 11 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b33xBHwgx1 (www.fairphone.com)	Dec 11 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j39c9	Dec 11 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fairphone.com \| Our approach to software and ongoing support for the first Fairphones \| Fairphone		Dec 11 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Five open source PaaS options you should know	Dec 11 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ra1LuHEJdl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j39cb	Dec 11 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Five open source PaaS options you should know \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi	Dec 11 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qWXzHYxs7F (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j39cc	Dec 11 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Our approach to software and ongoing support	Dec 11 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	for the first Fairphones http://t.co/q0A91j4ZCy	Dec 11 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j39hj	Dec 11 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Our approach to software and ongoing support for the first Fairphones \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 17:33
*TweetTuxMachines @Gogeta5026 followed @tuxmachines		Dec 11 17:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi	Dec 11 18:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ddC4yUnAfz (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 11 18:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j39vf	Dec 11 18:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud Server	Dec 11 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	release http://t.co/Dnf8ndPtjS (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 11 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3aez	Dec 11 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud Server release \| ZDNet		Dec 11 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/12/2014: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1	Dec 11 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Beta, Firefox 35 Plans http://t.co/wLspRUaO5b	Dec 11 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Dec 11 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3af0	Dec 11 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Five open source PaaS options you should know	Dec 11 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8WPOpYHv4c (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3af4	Dec 11 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud Server	Dec 11 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	release http://t.co/h5RiAsSMwN	Dec 11 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3baa	Dec 11 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud Server release \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/cIER34FKmm	Dec 11 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3bab	Dec 11 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/bSw9ClxMDm	Dec 11 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 11 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3bac	Dec 11 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Dec 11 22:06
*TweetTuxMachines @JoeSpeeds favourited 'Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort AllSeen Alliance grows...'		Dec 11 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google releases Cardboard VR viewer specs and	Dec 12 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	SDKs http://t.co/3yoD3U7yEg (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 12 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	good use of super high-res phone displays,	Dec 12 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3db8	Dec 12 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sharing with Qt on Android	Dec 12 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hp390NW2pZ (www.calligra.org)	Dec 12 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dbb	Dec 12 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed to connect to 2400:cb00:2048:1::681c:1835: Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/google-releases-cardboard-vr-viewer-specs-and-sdks/ )		Dec 12 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calligra.org \| Sharing with Qt on Android \| Calligra Suite		Dec 12 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic	Dec 12 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wsOBolteEC (www.linuxinsider.com)	Dec 12 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dbd	Dec 12 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Dec 12 04:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla to Support Certificate Transparency in	Dec 12 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	Firefox http://t.co/rmxcL5rkyy (threatpost.com)	Dec 12 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3diy	Dec 12 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-threatpost.com \| Mozilla to Support Certificate Transparency in Firefox \| Threatpost \| The first stop for security news		Dec 12 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux	Dec 12 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JPPi1rCDBE (www.maketecheasier.com)	Dec 12 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3diz	Dec 12 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com \| The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux - Make Tech Easier		Dec 12 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will	Dec 12 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	Show Up Next Year http://t.co/rfdqhms0lK	Dec 12 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Dec 12 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dj0	Dec 12 04:42
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roy_	"I would also like to stress that the socialist Deputy Leborgn (for the French citizens living abroad) already was in touch with various Ministers (including foreign affairs : Fabius, Industry : Pellerin, economy : Moscovici) in April this year. However, he was told in substance "before Mr. B. there was no legal system framing the right to strike so that it should be regarded as a progress. Presented with the fact that the new strike law was	Dec 12 05:29
roy_	below French standard, the deputy was answered that the EPO is made of 38 countries so that compromises should be made. For the record, Fabius, Moscovici, Pellerin and now Marcon all come from the same school as Mr B: that is the ENA (Ecole Nationale d'Administration). ENA's alumni is one of the most powerful French networks, may be even more powerful than freemasonry"	Dec 12 05:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic	Dec 12 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GCSkeh1fMz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3dtx	Dec 12 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's Anemic \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat 7.1 Beta, Malware History, and Bug	Dec 12 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	Reports http://t.co/HXwvAyduuj	Dec 12 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3du0	Dec 12 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat 7.1 Beta, Malware History, and Bug Reports \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 05:35
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5289577	Dec 12 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will Show Up Next Year http://uk.businessinsider.com/hp-will-show-off-new-linux-os-in-2015-2014-12?r=US #hp #microsoft #linuxplusplus #linux		Dec 12 05:37
roy_	"Looks promising but then again talk is cheap."	Dec 12 05:37
roy_	HP promised Linux OSes before but later abandoned/sold those and started attacking Linux with Microsoft (.e.g. in Munich)	Dec 12 05:38
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roy_	The light shades arrived on time and in good conditions. Would recommend!	Dec 12 07:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux	Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/D9XgRxpTRE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3f21	Dec 12 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will	Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	Show Up Next Year http://t.co/4aP13UtnP8	Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3f22	Dec 12 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will Show Up Next Year \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines European Commission updates its open source	Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	policy http://t.co/fqbb1wNGM4	Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3f24	Dec 12 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| European Commission updates its open source policy \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 09:01
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MinceR	http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SystemdCrashAndMore	Dec 12 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca \| Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SystemdCrashAndMore [ http://ur1.ca/j3g4e ]		Dec 12 11:23
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5289717	Dec 12 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/543173859055124482		Dec 12 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mattdpearce: Can we talk about how crazy this photo is? http://t.co/TWOolhyf6C		Dec 12 13:45
roy_	"Die Chancen stehen ganz gut, dass es da bald nochmal so richtig knallen wird !"	Dec 12 13:45
*TweetTuxMachines @KanBoHQ followed @tuxmachines		Dec 12 14:05
roy_	https://twitter.com/SimonRWaters/status/543481452328144898	Dec 12 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SimonRWaters: @schestowitz "Though a suspect has the right to remain silent during an arrest and not give their password" http://t.co/Hxc3vkdZe6		Dec 12 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> globalnews.ca \| What rules must police follow to search a cellphone during arrest? - National \| Globalnews.ca		Dec 12 14:13
roy_	I linked to the ruling the other day and spotted a contradicting. Not many people encrypt their phones.	Dec 12 14:14
DaemonFC	http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/scott_lively.html	Dec 12 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.masslive.com \| Anti-gay activist Scott Lively's crimes-against-humanity case to proceed after federal court denies his petition to dismiss lawsuit \| masslive.com [ http://ur1.ca/j3hd7 ]		Dec 12 14:15
roy_	https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/543484162527997952	Dec 12 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz The systemd matter is a subject for another day.		Dec 12 14:17
DaemonFC	roy_: I'm on an old XP machine right now.	Dec 12 14:18
roy_	I hardly take sides in it (undecided or apathetic), but it's no longer just an init system	Dec 12 14:18
DaemonFC	It's the only computer I have that works. I tried updating my EFI BIOS on the new computer the other day and it bricked the motherboard instead.	Dec 12 14:18
MinceR	that's efi for you	Dec 12 14:18
roy_	DaemonFC: XP is good... for botnets	Dec 12 14:18
DaemonFC	I ordered a new motherboard off of Newegg and I'll be doing a transplant of everything else.	Dec 12 14:18
DaemonFC	MinceR: The new motherboard was only $40 after rebate, and it has dual BIOS on it.	Dec 12 14:19
MinceR	bellwether? more like poison in the water supply	Dec 12 14:19
DaemonFC	Two BIOS chips. One is flashable, and the other is an emergency.	Dec 12 14:19
MinceR	systemd is the cancer that's killing gnu/linux	Dec 12 14:19
MinceR	DaemonFC: did that help?	Dec 12 14:20
MinceR	oh, new motherboard, after the old one got bricked	Dec 12 14:20
DaemonFC	If you do a bad update of the main BIOS, the backup BIOS boots the PC into a recovery mode, and can recover the main BIOS. If the main BIOS is permanently damaged, the backup BIOS can take over permanently.	Dec 12 14:20
DaemonFC	Yeah.	Dec 12 14:20
MinceR	nice	Dec 12 14:20
DaemonFC	Stupid Acer crap. I'm digging a standard ATX power supply out of another computer.	Dec 12 14:20
DaemonFC	I upgraded that one back in late 2012 to upgrade the GPU. It stopped booting several months ago, but I know the power supply is good.	Dec 12 14:21
DaemonFC	The one that came with the Acer is proprietary.	Dec 12 14:21
DaemonFC	I left a few nasty posts on their Facebook wall.	Dec 12 14:21
DaemonFC	I called their engineers idiots that shouldn't have been allowed to graduate from kindergarten.	Dec 12 14:22
DaemonFC	And that this would be my first and last computer from them.	Dec 12 14:22
DaemonFC	roy_: Windows XP is the only thing this old computer can really run.	Dec 12 14:25
DaemonFC	The integrated graphics were never properly supported in Linux, and then the driver got yanked completely from every(?) major distribution.	Dec 12 14:25
DaemonFC	I used the registry setting to get the post-April security fixes from Microsoft. The ones intended for WEPOS.	Dec 12 14:26
DaemonFC	There's about two dozen of them so far.	Dec 12 14:26
DaemonFC	With the hack, you keep getting security patches for XP until April 2019.	Dec 12 14:26
DaemonFC	So Microsoft continues to research and patch XP vulnerabilities. They just won't let the general public have them. Which is bad, because every month there are another 5-6 vulnerabilities that become public knowledge, with no official update for XP.	Dec 12 14:29
DaemonFC	Just because there's no update doesn't mean that people will stop using XP, and those machines will still have broadband internet access. :P	Dec 12 14:29
DaemonFC	There are still people using Windows 9x/Me, and those haven't been supported at all for 8 years.	Dec 12 14:30
DaemonFC	Most stat counters put Windows 9x/Me combines at about 1%. 1% of all the PCs on Earth is still quite a few systems.	Dec 12 14:30
DaemonFC	It would be foolish to suspect that XP will go away anytime soon. Microsoft is largely to blame. They kept letting OEMs license it through 2010, knowing that it would be out of support in under 4 years, so there are still some systems that came with it that aren't exactly ancient.	Dec 12 14:32
DaemonFC	I think it speaks volumes about just how bad Windows security is. Going on 15, and still getting 4-5 security patches every month? That's crazy. You'd expect the pace to slow down at some point, but apparently there's just no end to the vulnerabilities.	Dec 12 14:37
DaemonFC	XP is going on 15, that is.	Dec 12 14:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IT should listen to users not just managers,	Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	says SugarCRM CEO http://t.co/TXAzbYdaLU	Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hka	Dec 12 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IT should listen to users not just managers, says SugarCRM CEO \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux	Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	As Planned? http://t.co/yD5joFGKxA	Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	(mrpogson.com)	Dec 12 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As Planned? \| Robert Pogson		Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hkc	Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks)	Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Tt1gBChP18 (www.zdnet.com)	Dec 12 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3hkd	Dec 12 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks) \| ZDNet		Dec 12 14:38
*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As...'		Dec 12 14:38
DaemonFC	Windows Security Essentials still works on XP, but it nags you every day that XP is no longer supported. To make that shut up, I uninstalled it and installed Bitdefender Free.	Dec 12 14:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks favourited 'Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux As...'		Dec 12 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development	Dec 12 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VQ0NSb3jWa (www.linuxjournal.com)	Dec 12 14:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Call for Papers is open for the Embedded Linux	Dec 12 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	Conference 2015 http://t.co/hmZ1rw5hnu	Dec 12 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 12 14:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Has The Russian Government Moved To GNU/Linux	Dec 12 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	As Planned? http://t.co/EoAteAKv9J	Dec 12 15:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Must-have Linux desktop apps (Six Clicks)	Dec 12 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/05ymiK8fsK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 12 15:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development	Dec 12 15:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.5.0	Dec 12 15:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AErFhWtS3v (www.kde.org)	Dec 12 15:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Continues to Grow in the Cloud Computing	Dec 12 15:22
TweetTuxMachines	and Implementation of Enterprise Applications	Dec 12 15:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/H6YLsOZv5S (cloudtimes.org)	Dec 12 15:22
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roy_	http://www.computerworld.com/article/2475620/vertical-it/nsa-flashes-bios-for-60-minutes--the-plot-thickens-.html	Dec 12 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com \| NSA flashes BIOS for 60 Minutes (the plot thickens) \| Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/j3i7w ]		Dec 12 15:39
roy_	" Dr. Roy Schestowitz foresaw the terminals illness: "	Dec 12 15:39
roy_	https://twitter.com/gordonbp/status/543506846452314112	Dec 12 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gordonbp: @schestowitz apparently it was a power cut, not a computer crash...		Dec 12 15:48
roy_	Yes, the Windows systems failed to recover	Dec 12 15:48
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roy_	wb, jgay	Dec 12 15:54
roy_	jono_ I mean	Dec 12 15:54
jgay	no welcomes for me	Dec 12 15:56
roy_	always welcome! But jono_ has been absent for months :-)	Dec 12 15:56
jgay	hello jono_, congrats on the new job by the way!	Dec 12 15:56
jono_	hey roy_	Dec 12 15:56
jono_	thanks everyone	Dec 12 15:56
jono_	let me join in my normal client :-)	Dec 12 15:57
jono_	one sec	Dec 12 15:57
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jono	that's better :-)	Dec 12 15:57
roy_	jono_: my wife asked last night why there's no word of you on the web anymore and I said you had moved to a non-FOSS company	Dec 12 15:57
roy_	jono: we've put some major gov clients on ubuntu	Dec 12 15:58
roy_	inc FSA, london gov etc.	Dec 12 15:58
jono	roy_ yeah I have been putting much of the key bits in place at XPRIZE	Dec 12 15:58
jono	XPRIZE is a way different organization to Canonical	Dec 12 15:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.19 To Have Full Multi-Touch For More	Dec 12 15:58
TweetTuxMachines	Logitech Devices http://t.co/KIFOhQNxsF	Dec 12 15:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Dec 12 15:58
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jono	not really an IT company, but with an awesome grand mission :-)	Dec 12 15:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines XFS Has Improvements To Look Forward To With	Dec 12 15:58
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.19 http://t.co/66daTRAWNB	Dec 12 15:58
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jono	so I have been heads down getting some core bits sorted	Dec 12 15:58
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jono	we are going to make the future a better place :-)	Dec 12 15:59
MinceR	welcome, jgay	Dec 12 15:59
jono	and open source and free software will be a key part of this :-)	Dec 12 15:59
*roy_ reads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Prize_Foundation		Dec 12 15:59
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roy_	I know it because of the founder	Dec 12 15:59
jono	cool	Dec 12 16:00
jono	we have a ways to go, but lots of cool opportunity ahead	Dec 12 16:00
jono	roy_ did you see the Global Learning XPRIZE ?	Dec 12 16:00
roy_	jono: have you met Elon Musk in person?	Dec 12 16:00
jono	roy_ not in person, no	Dec 12 16:01
roy_	jono: the Gates connection won't impress me	Dec 12 16:01
roy_	there was some of that with Danese Cooper	Dec 12 16:01
jono	well, Bill Gates at Gates Foundation and Bill Gates at MS are two quite different beasts from what I can tell	Dec 12 16:02
roy_	Earlier today I saw an articles linked to from opensource.com that openwashed Gates	Dec 12 16:02
roy_	the same guy who started the anti-FOSS movement	Dec 12 16:02
jono	people change, Roy	Dec 12 16:02
roy_	not him	Dec 12 16:02
jono	I dunno about you, but I was very different 15 years ago too	Dec 12 16:02
roy_	he still attacks FOSS	Dec 12 16:02
jono	I think he has	Dec 12 16:02
roy_	unless he profits from it	Dec 12 16:02
jono	no he doesn't	Dec 12 16:02
jono	and to be fair, it wasn't him, it was Ballmer	Dec 12 16:03
roy_	he profits a lot from what he does notr	Dec 12 16:03
roy_	which is not giving	Dec 12 16:03
jono	he was the architect of anti-Linux	Dec 12 16:03
jono	Gates was just wanted to build cool tech at MS	Dec 12 16:03
roy_	he gets about 5-10 percent richer each year	Dec 12 16:03
roy_	PR, deception, media control	Dec 12 16:03
jono	and the gates foundation are doing really valuable work	Dec 12 16:03
jono	anyway, I don't have much time to debate	Dec 12 16:03
jono	just wanted to say hi :-)	Dec 12 16:03
roy_	ok	Dec 12 16:03
roy_	np	Dec 12 16:03
cubexyz	giving antix 13.2 luddite a go	Dec 12 16:04
roy_	what hardware?	Dec 12 16:04
cubexyz	just a p3 :)	Dec 12 16:04
roy_	wow	Dec 12 16:04
roy_	you can probably buy loads by the piund	Dec 12 16:05
roy_	*pound	Dec 12 16:05
roy_	maybe 20 dollars per box	Dec 12 16:05
cubexyz	comes with ice weasel 22	Dec 12 16:05
jgay	jono, does xprize have any plans to do something (maybe even somethign community based) similar to what the knight foundation does with the "news challenges" program?	Dec 12 16:06
jgay	I really like their sequence that entrants go through: "inspiration", "submissions", "feedback", "refinement", "evaluation", "winners"	Dec 12 16:06
cubexyz	3.7.10 kernel, seems pretty recent	Dec 12 16:08
jgay	and I wondered if ther emight be a way to sort of decentralize that process ... or bake it into a plaftorm that people can use and make their own	Dec 12 16:08
cubexyz	it's pretty fast too, the live cd comes with icewm	Dec 12 16:08
jgay	jono, anyhow, maybe I should formulate my thoughts more coherently in a blog post or something. If you don't knwo what I'm even talking about check it out, https://newschallenge.org/challenge/libraries/refinement	Dec 12 16:08
cubexyz	I'm liking it so far	Dec 12 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newschallenge.org \| News Challenge - How might we leverage libraries as a platform to build more knowledgeable communities? - Refinement [ http://ur1.ca/j3ii9 ]		Dec 12 16:09
roy_	icewm is quite ok for its size	Dec 12 16:09
roy_	I used it for a while recently	Dec 12 16:09
roy_	and openbox, lxde, e17	Dec 12 16:09
roy_	twm is the worst	Dec 12 16:09
jono	jgay, news challenges?	Dec 12 16:10
jgay	jono, https://newschallenge.org/faq	Dec 12 16:10
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jono	jgay, will check it out in a sec, thanks!	Dec 12 16:10
MinceR	220317 < jono> Gates was just wanted to build cool tech at MS	Dec 12 16:11
MinceR	in that case, he failed.	Dec 12 16:11
MinceR	hard.	Dec 12 16:11
MinceR	and i'm sure the work of the gates foundation is really valuable to microsoft	Dec 12 16:12
cubexyz	it's about control of the desktops	Dec 12 16:12
cubexyz	which is slipping finally	Dec 12 16:13
MinceR	which might be why poettering & co. decided to destroy gnu/linux just now	Dec 12 16:14
cubexyz	no systemd in antix :)	Dec 12 16:14
cubexyz	it just how things evolve	Dec 12 16:18
cubexyz	once I was a staunch user of Fedora...	Dec 12 16:19
cubexyz	now I'm a slackware adherent	Dec 12 16:19
MinceR	i'm getting tired of hopping distros to dodge the stupid	Dec 12 16:19
MinceR	hopefully bedrock will fix that for me	Dec 12 16:19
cubexyz	slackware and derivatives	Dec 12 16:19
cubexyz	MincerDistro :)	Dec 12 16:20
MinceR	also, it's sad that sjvn became a systemd shill	Dec 12 16:25
cubexyz	really? hmmm	Dec 12 16:25
MinceR	http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/	Dec 12 16:25
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5291861	Dec 12 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the #mpaa is allowed to get away with domain #censorship it might not be long before sites get forced offline for allegation of image (c)		Dec 12 16:38
roy_	"for the past three years I keep talking we need comunication infrastructure independent of state or corporate ownership."	Dec 12 16:38
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5292158	Dec 12 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #london a #drone just came 6 meters short of hitting a plane in #heathrow (IIRC). But let's strip everyone naked in airport scans...		Dec 12 16:39
roy_	"How often does that happen?"	Dec 12 16:39
roy_	I heard about it happening in the US quite a few times, but today I heard about London...	Dec 12 16:39
MinceR	obviously we need to paint drones with texts saying "allahu akbar" and drive them into planes. :>	Dec 12 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calligra 2.8.7 is Out http://t.co/9l8krAOU1V	Dec 12 16:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.5.0	Dec 12 16:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Continues to Grow in the Cloud Computing	Dec 12 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	and Implementation of Enterprise Applications	Dec 12 17:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.19 To Have Full Multi-Touch For More	Dec 12 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	Logitech Devices http://t.co/baGcIoOdRt	Dec 12 17:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 12-Way AMD Catalyst 14.12 vs. NVIDIA 346 Series	Dec 12 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	Linux GPU Comparison http://t.co/lQzi432pcT	Dec 12 17:27
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msb_	MinceR: sjvn's article on systemd does not make him a shill for it at all.	Dec 12 18:05
MinceR	to me, it read as it was written from the perspective of someone who totally bought into systemd and has no understanding why anyone would want to avoid it	Dec 12 18:06
msb_	He describes the problems with it, has Torvalds' and Tso's comments, and wants devs to create an alternative.	Dec 12 18:06
msb_	Are we reading the same article?	Dec 12 18:07
MinceR	i read the article i linked.	Dec 12 18:07
msb_	http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/	Dec 12 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Linus Torvalds and others on Linux's systemd \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/j3ip3 ]		Dec 12 18:07
MinceR	and there already are alternatives, including sysvinit.	Dec 12 18:07
msb_	"If systemd really does turn out to be as bad as some developers fear, there are plenty of replacements waiting in the wings. Indeed, rather than hear so much about how awful systemd is, I'd rather see developers spending their time working on an alternative."	Dec 12 18:08
msb_	He doesn't say OMG the sky is falling, but does cover the territory, and the diagram at the beginning shows how much systemd has taken over.	Dec 12 18:09
msb_	I sure wish Linus would come out against it, though.	Dec 12 18:11
MinceR	he's pretending sysvinit doesn't exist	Dec 12 18:11
MinceR	yeah, right now it looks like Linus will let them soil the kernel with crap such as kdbus.	Dec 12 18:11
msb_	yep	Dec 12 18:11
MinceR	pretending sysvinit doesn't exist is a tired poetteringite tactic.	Dec 12 18:12
msb_	Well, they say it has problems -- I don't know what.	Dec 12 18:12
MinceR	"to replace systemd, you'd have to develop something totally new, you can't live without systemd now!"	Dec 12 18:12
cubexyz	heh, I run some pre-sysvinit stuff	Dec 12 18:12
MinceR	yes, it has the problems of being interchangeable with other init systems and not being controlled by the poettering cult	Dec 12 18:13
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MinceR	applications won't mind if you're running sysvinit, bsd init, runit, sinit or whatever	Dec 12 18:13
MinceR	but they're trying to move us to a world where everything depends on systemd or is part of systemd	Dec 12 18:13
MinceR	try to switch init systems then	Dec 12 18:13
msb_	People should start using "poettering" as a verb, meaning invading and sabotaging.	Dec 12 18:14
MinceR	:>	Dec 12 18:14
MinceR	or just "poetter", "poettering" being the infinitive	Dec 12 18:14
msb_	yes	Dec 12 18:15
roy_	lol	Dec 12 18:15
roy_	I forgot to mention that our new neighbours are actually quite jolly and awesome. They're quiet, polite, and we're already receiving good quality Christmas card from many of them, even those across the road and several houses down the road. Some know our names somehow.	Dec 12 18:15
MinceR	creepy :>	Dec 12 18:15
msb_	Where are you living?	Dec 12 18:16
cubexyz	it's kind of plain but it's fast:	Dec 12 18:16
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/antix-desktop.jpg	Dec 12 18:16
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msb_	cubexyz: can it have 20 virtual desktops with names in the switcher applet?	Dec 12 18:20
cubexyz	icewm defaults to 4 virtual desktops	Dec 12 18:20
cubexyz	I don't know enough about icewm to say, but I don't see why not	Dec 12 18:21
msb_	With the windows in each desktop persistent across reboots? That's a hard requirement for me. Makes life much easier.	Dec 12 18:22
MinceR	msb_: if nothing else, you could use fvwm and hack one of the pagers if necessary :>	Dec 12 18:22
msb_	As long as I have a hard drive and not an SSD, KDE3 or Trinity is fine.	Dec 12 18:23
MinceR	why not an SSD?	Dec 12 18:23
msb_	Space is more expensive.	Dec 12 18:23
cubexyz	I like minimalist low-memory systems	Dec 12 18:24
roy_	msb_: manchester	Dec 12 18:24
cubexyz	but I know that's not everyone's cup of tea	Dec 12 18:24
msb_	I want a real keyboard, and a pretty big screen, so laptop is as small as I want to go.	Dec 12 18:24
msb_	Unless the Apocalypse comes, fries all the electronics, and we have to make our own chips, I don't find any need for minimalist.	Dec 12 18:26
cubexyz	the reasoning for it is simple: less pollution	Dec 12 18:26
msb_	What kind of pollution?	Dec 12 18:26
MinceR	don't old computers use more power? :>	Dec 12 18:26
cubexyz	no, that's a myth	Dec 12 18:26
cubexyz	depends on which cpu	Dec 12 18:26
cubexyz	coppermine p3's were fairly power efficient	Dec 12 18:27
cubexyz	msb_, obviously pollution caused by chip fabrication	Dec 12 18:28
cubexyz	e.g. trichloroethylene	Dec 12 18:28
cubexyz	of course, the power use could be offset by solar panels or whatever, it's not too critical	Dec 12 18:29
cubexyz	now PDP-11's were a different story	Dec 12 18:29
cubexyz	I'd never say use a PDP-11 as your main computer :)	Dec 12 18:30
msb_	I just read that Germany sometimes gets half its power from solar -- IIRC -- I can't find the email.	Dec 12 18:30
cubexyz	basically my philosophy is to fix computers and keep them working as long as possible	Dec 12 18:30
cubexyz	LCD's are quite repairable	Dec 12 18:30
msb_	And solar cell efficiency has just reached 40%, and that's with cells that can use concentrated light.	Dec 12 18:31
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cubexyz	some old computers didn't use plastic for the case	Dec 12 18:32
cubexyz	but that's rare	Dec 12 18:32
msb_	My computer is a dual-core AMD with 8GB, and it can play HEVC/x265 videos, so I have no need to upgrade.	Dec 12 18:32
cubexyz	slot 1 also had some of the best heat dissipation	Dec 12 18:33
cubexyz	tech as regressed in that regard	Dec 12 18:33
cubexyz	I see laptops with heat damage all the time	Dec 12 18:34
msb_	I think its better to go to non-polluting energy, like solar, cold-fusion/CANR, or even well-designed fission, rather than restrict everyone's energy usage to the point of making life difficult.	Dec 12 18:35
cubexyz	over use of plastics is a big problem	Dec 12 18:35
msb_	But we burn far more oil for energy than we use for making plastics.	Dec 12 18:36
cubexyz	in general perhaps, I do a lot of walking :)	Dec 12 18:36
msb_	I might like a wearable computer, with VR goggles and a keyboard in one pocket and the guts in another.	Dec 12 18:38
msb_	Very lightweight goggles.	Dec 12 18:38
cubexyz	oil is a problem, totally agree	Dec 12 18:38
msb_	It should not be burned.	Dec 12 18:38
cubexyz	oil spills? terrible	Dec 12 18:39
msb_	Non-polluting energy generation, plus batteries or hydrogen for cars.	Dec 12 18:39
cubexyz	I'm a big re-user of old stuff so that helps	Dec 12 18:39
roy_	https://twitter.com/Mark_Antony/status/543018956647591937	Dec 12 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mark_Antony: Last day at work before heading to the U.S. Tomorrow and enjoying working with the GLA at City Hall		Dec 12 18:40
msb_	Lots of production of useless stuff in wealthy countries is because capitalism is tied to a 40 hour work week. So to keep people employed, even though technology does most of the work, requires production of lots of unneeded goods.	Dec 12 18:42
cubexyz	how many models of iphones were there? 5? 6?	Dec 12 18:43
msb_	Ultimately, we need socialism, about a 10 hour work week, a huge tax on wealth, and a comfortable lifestyle -- neither restrictive nor conspicuous-consumption,	Dec 12 18:44
cubexyz	msb_, I don't mind working more than 10 hours per week	Dec 12 18:45
msb_	That would work for the entire world population.	Dec 12 18:45
cubexyz	I'd probably go crazy if I didn't	Dec 12 18:45
msb_	cubexyz: Fine, if you want to.	Dec 12 18:45
roy_	Interesting that the anti-Assange 'comedy' is written by this man: http://greekemmy.com/2014/12/11/bbc-writer-thom-phipps-advocates-the-murder-of-julian-assange/	Dec 12 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-greekemmy.com \| BBC writer Thom Phipps advocates the murder of Julian Assange \| greekemmy [ http://ur1.ca/j3jlq ]		Dec 12 18:45
msb_	There's enough going on in the world that just reading about it or watching videos of it is more than I have time for, and I'm retired.	Dec 12 18:46
msb_	I wish I had time to do more programming!	Dec 12 18:47
cubexyz	just checking out new distros could be a full time job :)	Dec 12 18:47
msb_	Yup. I only need the one.	Dec 12 18:48
cubexyz	programming does require a fair amount of mental energy	Dec 12 18:49
cubexyz	it's a question of prioritizing	Dec 12 18:49
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msb_	I've found a perfect food: pizza with beef (with the fat blotted off), provolone, artichoke hearts, mushrooms, roasted garlic, tomato sauce. And they deliver!	Dec 12 18:50
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msb_	I want to write my own editor, based on BRIEF, but instead of an interpreted language for extensions, you just write them in C or Ruby, compile them and re-link.	Dec 12 18:51
msb_	Should be very small and simple, and on modern computers, re-linking only takes a couple of seconds.	Dec 12 18:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 12/12/2014: Linux++, KDE Frameworks	Dec 12 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	5.5.0, Calligra 2.8.7 http://t.co/MuETp3u5n3	Dec 12 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 12-Way AMD Catalyst 14.12 vs. NVIDIA 346 Series	Dec 12 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	Linux GPU Comparison http://t.co/afLjkpcO4x	Dec 12 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines European Commission Finally Engaging with Open	Dec 12 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	Source? http://t.co/tWsFPYLn4F	Dec 12 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/UamC3wDybo	Dec 12 19:00
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cubexyz	ooo, there's a site selling thinkpads with coreboot	Dec 12 20:49
cubexyz	no stock though... hmmm	Dec 12 20:50
cubexyz	T60 and X60	Dec 12 20:53
cubexyz	I qw	Dec 12 20:54
cubexyz	oops	Dec 12 20:54
cubexyz	evidently that's what Stallman is using these days: a thinkpad x60 with libreboot (coreboot)	Dec 12 20:59
cubexyz	and Trisquel	Dec 12 20:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/5Yp9s3WqhP	Dec 12 21:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear “Lollipop” First Look and Tour!	Dec 12 21:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nautilus Ported To New GTK Widgets For GNOME	Dec 12 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	3.16 http://t.co/p1RDh6Hm18	Dec 12 21:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SparkyLinux 3.6 "Annagerman" Lands with LXDE,	Dec 12 22:38
TweetTuxMachines	MATE, Razor-Qt, and Xfce Flavors	Dec 12 22:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.5.0 Officially Released	Dec 12 22:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Frameworks 5.5.0 Officially Released \| Tux Machines		Dec 12 22:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear update: Everything you need to	Dec 12 22:38
TweetTuxMachines	know http://t.co/o874rbyP2K	Dec 12 22:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.2.8 and Other Must-have Apps	Dec 13 04:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Gj5iZT1IE2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 04:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.2.8 and Other Must-have Apps \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 04:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside CoreOS Linux, Why Fleet and etcd Matter	Dec 13 04:33
TweetTuxMachines	[VIDEO] http://t.co/TCDLSQ2DDp	Dec 13 04:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 04:33
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MinceR	http://fi8.eu.apcdn.com/full/126411.jpg	Dec 13 08:25
cubexyz	why not just put Sauron in there? :)	Dec 13 08:30
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 08:36
MinceR	the windows logo matches the swastika better	Dec 13 08:36
roy	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/13/us/politics/amid-details-on-torture-data-on-26-held-in-error-.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share	Dec 13 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/j3umf ]		Dec 13 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	@bickart The Jeff Bickart CRM Daily is out!	Dec 13 10:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/acFKpadwnJ (paper.li) Stories via	Dec 13 10:22
TweetTuxMachines	@Urdhvatech @tuxmachines @AUSComplaints	Dec 13 10:22
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MinceR	also, sauron wouldn't be evil enough for m$	Dec 13 11:00
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roy	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294953	Dec 13 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jaywink@iliketoast.net: Meh, my #Firefox is somehow completely broken. Weird rendering sometimes, page resets to top on random, HTML5 reveal.js slides don't work, home/end buttons don't work. Tried remove/reinstall, no help. Trued stable, beta and developer edition - all the same. Any tips? What dependant libraries could cause this on #Ubuntu? Chromium is fine, everything sweet.		Dec 13 11:34
roy	I am moving back to Rekonq. Firefox conf went crazy for me.	Dec 13 11:35
MinceR	try making a new profile?	Dec 13 11:36
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Dec 13 12:01
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Dec 13 12:01
DaemonFC	Great news! The author of the Seatab-X extension for Mozilla SeaMonkey has decided to release his extension under version 2.0 of the Mozilla Public License, which makes the extension Free and open-source software, and which also automatically makes the license compatible with the GNU General Public License.	Dec 13 12:01
DaemonFC	Now you can have close tab buttons in your Seamonkey browser without installing proprietary software.	Dec 13 12:01
DaemonFC	The new maintainer is hosting the extension on the official Mozilla add-ons site.	Dec 13 12:01
DaemonFC	https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/seatab-x-2/	Dec 13 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org \| SeaTab-X-2 :: Add-ons for SeaMonkey [ http://ur1.ca/hno5e ]		Dec 13 12:01
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 12:07
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Dec 13 13:01
DaemonFC	2 mins · Edited ·	Dec 13 13:01
DaemonFC	http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/12/anti-gay-n-c-church-members-indicted-on-felony-kidnapping-assault-of-gay-man/	Dec 13 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lgbtqnation.com \| Anti-gay N.C. church members indicted on felony kidnapping, assault of gay man – LGBTQ Nation [ http://ur1.ca/j3w79 ]		Dec 13 13:01
DaemonFC	"In 1995, the church was the subject of an "Inside Edition" report on its "blasting" techniques, in which a person is encircled by church members and subjected to high-pitched shrilling sounds, screams and prayers. Blasting sessions can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours."	Dec 13 13:01
DaemonFC	Sounds legit....	Dec 13 13:01
DaemonFC	Mason von Mason says:	Dec 13 13:03
DaemonFC	RT isn't going to like this!	Dec 13 13:03
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 13:03
DaemonFC	Reich Thinking, Bowel Movement, and Remarkably Stupid Bastard definitely will not approve.	Dec 13 13:03
DaemonFC	I've got my retard flame retardant underwear on standby.	Dec 13 13:03
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 13:03
DaemonFC	MinceR: I decided that while I'm working on rebuilding my new computer, I'm just going to forget about trying to get Microsoft to reactivate my copy of Windows.	Dec 13 13:04
DaemonFC	In the two hours on the phone arguing with them about it, I could just install Fedora and have everything copied over.	Dec 13 13:05
DaemonFC	I tried out Fedora 21 on my Core i7/R9 270X and it ran great, even with just open source drivers.	Dec 13 13:05
MinceR	:>	Dec 13 13:06
DaemonFC	So, I don't think I really need any proprietary software in the kernel anymore.	Dec 13 13:06
DaemonFC	Proprietary video drivers are basically the cause of upwards of 90% of your Linux frustrations these days anyway.	Dec 13 13:06
DaemonFC	The proportional share grows as the quality of the rest of the Linux distributions gets better.	Dec 13 13:07
MinceR	until systemd shits itself, as it's bound to do. :>	Dec 13 13:07
DaemonFC	Nah. I've never had any real problems with systemd.	Dec 13 13:07
MinceR	not yet, you mean	Dec 13 13:07
DaemonFC	I did have a lot of problems with Pulseaudio when it was new-ish.	Dec 13 13:07
DaemonFC	So many problems that I gave up and went back to using Windows XP x64 Edition for a while while things settled down.	Dec 13 13:08
MinceR	pulseaudio couldn't hang your system, though.	Dec 13 13:08
DaemonFC	The hell it couldn't.	Dec 13 13:08
DaemonFC	Have you ever tried using ALSA-OSS with Pulseaudio running?	Dec 13 13:08
DaemonFC	Well, that would be a moot point now anyway. Fedora and Ubuntu have deactivated the OSS 3 compatibility layer anyway.	Dec 13 13:09
MinceR	i haven't	Dec 13 13:09
DaemonFC	To get OSS emulation back, you're going to need a custom kernel.	Dec 13 13:09
DaemonFC	It makes a few old apps lose their sound, but I can see why they made this move.	Dec 13 13:09
DaemonFC	Some proprietary application developers were still writing new apps using the OSS 3 API, and they can't get away with that now, so they stopped.	Dec 13 13:10
MinceR	http://www.theonion.com/articles/rising-income-inequality-causing-wealthy-americans,37652/	Dec 13 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com \| Rising Income Inequality Causing Wealthy Americans To Take On Second Sailboat \| The Onion - America's Finest News Source [ http://ur1.ca/j3wbw ]		Dec 13 13:19
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294434	Dec 13 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not only the #uk has multiple #nsa bases (paid for and operated by the #us to spy on us) http://rt.com/in-motion/213151-berlin-nsa-spy-station/ #germany #imperialism #us		Dec 13 13:34
schestowitz	"Any country that hosts a US military base should be considered a US protectorate, Germany, Poland, even #Greece (unfortunately)."	Dec 13 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rt.com \| Drone footage of former NSA spy station in Germany — RT In motion [ http://ur1.ca/j3wgk ]		Dec 13 13:34
schestowitz	Leadership chosen by surveillance and bribe	Dec 13 13:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294617	Dec 13 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa hoards all data from everyone not because everyone is suspected of a crime but because people easily controlled through blackmail. #mlk		Dec 13 13:35
schestowitz	"Among the blackmail victims possibly Merkel ,Oland and other leaders who were being spied on..."	Dec 13 13:35
schestowitz	If she knows she is being watched, she will "behave" (subservient to US)	Dec 13 13:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294329	Dec 13 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #schmidt did not care about #privacy until it hurt his shares' value http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/internet/3590906/schmidt-nsa-revelations-forced-google-to-lock-down-data/ http://thehill.com/policy/technology/226962-google-head-we-dont-spy-on-you		Dec 13 13:37
schestowitz	"Let us all start a crowd-funding campaign to help Google against the evil NSA."	Dec 13 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| Schmidt: NSA revelations forced Google to lock down data - PC Advisor [ http://ur1.ca/j3wh7 ]		Dec 13 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thehill.com \| Google: We don’t spy on you \| TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/j3wha ]		Dec 13 13:37
schestowitz	As if....	Dec 13 13:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5292657	Dec 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Researchers 'Averaged' The Faces Of 400 CEOs — And The Results Say A Lot About Race In Business http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-average-face-of-400-ceos-2014-12?r=US #whiteprivilege #pr		Dec 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com \| The Average Face Of 400 CEOs - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/j3whj ]		Dec 13 13:38
schestowitz	"Woman looks Russian :-)."	Dec 13 13:38
schestowitz	Caucasians are projecting trust among much of the world	Dec 13 13:38
DaemonFC	Well, at least this 10 year old Dell craputer with Windoze XP can run Gens.	Dec 13 13:54
DaemonFC	Old DOS games and stuff.	Dec 13 13:54
DaemonFC	sigh	Dec 13 13:54
DaemonFC	I'm going to go nuts if I can't get my Core i7 system back up and running.	Dec 13 13:55
DaemonFC	This old Celery processor can't even play Youtube videos smoothly.	Dec 13 13:55
DaemonFC	I went to install HexChat and it told me it doesn't support Windows XP anymore.	Dec 13 13:56
DaemonFC	So I'm using ChatZilla.	Dec 13 13:56
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 15:11
DaemonFC	http://www.alternet.org/week-religion-kentucky-govt-finally-cuts-subsidies-noahs-ark-museum	Dec 13 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org \| This Week in Religion: Kentucky Govt Finally Cuts Off Subsidies to Noah's Ark Museum \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/j3xbf ]		Dec 13 15:12
DaemonFC	Ken Ham bought a billboard saying "Thank God you can't sink this ship.".	Dec 13 15:12
DaemonFC	Technically, you can't sink a ship that's nowhere near water. I'm not sure why you'd thank God for that unless you're an idiot that built a ship that was nowhere near water.	Dec 13 15:12
DaemonFC	In all seriousness, the fact that the taxpayer giveaway of $18 million was ever on the table is horrible. How many hungry people in Kentucky could be fed with $18 million? Instead, the state was seriously floating (no pun intended) the idea of subsidizing a for-profit Noah's Ark replica, designed to lure in gullible fools who believe that the biblical flood actually happened.	Dec 13 15:12
DaemonFC	nameinuse says:	Dec 13 15:12
DaemonFC	With global warming and all maybe it wiil be useful eventually.	Dec 13 15:12
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 15:12
DaemonFC	Well, that brings us to the next obvious statement.	Dec 13 15:12
DaemonFC	"Thank God you can't sink this ship" -Titanic victims. And that thing was made out of metal! B-)	Dec 13 15:12
DaemonFC	nameinuse says:	Dec 13 15:21
DaemonFC	Theirs is made out of faith. Just like chemotherapy.	Dec 13 15:21
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Dec 13 15:21
DaemonFC	Their faith is so weak that they feel the need to lash out irrationally and sometimes violently at people who question it.	Dec 13 15:21
DaemonFC	I can't imagine anything that frail managing to hold a ship together. ;)	Dec 13 15:21
MinceR	:>	Dec 13 15:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source	Dec 13 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Benchmarking Test Farm	Dec 13 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ivoYP4xj1W (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source Linux Benchmarking Test Farm \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture	Dec 13 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qgttPJ6gPY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 16:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Week in Techrights http://t.co/4qBuhzB9hV	Dec 13 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xvu	Dec 13 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official	Dec 13 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	Repos http://t.co/jUM49mkjPd	Dec 13 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Dec 13 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official Repos - Softpedia		Dec 13 16:24
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MinceR	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwMzg	Dec 13 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] An Exploit In GNOME Shell With Systemd? [ http://ur1.ca/j3xwy ]		Dec 13 16:28
MinceR	unfixed for a year	Dec 13 16:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Original Strife: Veteran Edition, The	Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	Original FPS & RPG Hybrid On Steam For Linux,	Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	We Have Keys http://t.co/YkbLMTTC0V	Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 13 16:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Original Strife: Veteran Edition, The Original FPS & RPG Hybrid On Steam For Linux, We Have Keys \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "GNU/Linux continues its takeoff. There’s	Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	growth everywhere and it’s increasing."	Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5rR8SOrId4 (mrpogson.com)	Dec 13 16:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| The Good News Just Keeps Flowing \| Robert Pogson		Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Week in Techrights http://t.co/8BPRFyjjbp	Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xyw	Dec 13 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official	Dec 13 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	Repos http://t.co/0tH4Uls1Ud	Dec 13 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xzh	Dec 13 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official Repos \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux	Dec 13 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	Launch On Linux, Sorta (UPDATED)	Dec 13 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yHjxHaqykV (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Dec 13 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3xzi	Dec 13 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux Launch On Linux, Sorta (UPDATED) \| GamingOnLinux		Dec 13 16:38
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sebsebseb	hi	Dec 13 16:48
MinceR	hay	Dec 13 16:50
sebsebseb	MinceR: hi	Dec 13 16:50
sebsebseb	MinceR: a thing on TV about Apple on Thursday	Dec 13 16:50
sebsebseb	oh jono is in here :d	Dec 13 16:51
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sebsebseb	well was in here then	Dec 13 16:51
MinceR	lol	Dec 13 16:53
schestowitz	> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2859122/your-linux-pc-isnt-as-secure-as-you-think-it-is.html	Dec 13 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| Your Linux PC isn't as secure as you think it is \| PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/j3y3i ]		Dec 13 16:53
schestowitz	>	Dec 13 16:53
schestowitz	> trollin	Dec 13 16:53
schestowitz	Seen that. I don't think the author can be dubbed troll though, given his background. I just let the first comment speak out...	Dec 13 16:53
MinceR	sebsebseb: you scared him away nicely, could do that more often ;)	Dec 13 16:54
schestowitz	> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/e-regulation/berners-lee-erosion-web-freedoms-157386	Dec 13 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk \| Sir Tim Berners-Lee Warns Of Erosion Of Web Freedoms [ http://ur1.ca/j3y4y ]		Dec 13 16:58
schestowitz	>	Dec 13 16:58
schestowitz	> Still does not match his endorsement of DRM	Dec 13 16:58
MinceR	lol	Dec 13 16:59
MinceR	emperor tim berners-lee warns us that he has eroded web freedoms!	Dec 13 16:59
MinceR	thank you, tim berners-lee, we haven't noticed!	Dec 13 16:59
schestowitz	lol	Dec 13 17:04
schestowitz	http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Facebook-Dumps-Microsoft-MSFT-FB-4825740.php	Dec 13 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com \| Facebook Dumps Microsoft (MSFT, FB) - SFGate [ http://ur1.ca/j3y6o ]		Dec 13 17:05
MinceR	does this mean m$ no longer gets a live feed of dumbFuckBook users' personal data? :>	Dec 13 17:07
schestowitz	> http://michigandaily.com/news/levin-highlights-bipartisanship-farewell-address	Dec 13 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michigandaily.com \| Levin highlights bipartisanship in farewell address - The Michigan Daily [ http://ur1.ca/j3y7m ]		Dec 13 17:09
schestowitz	>	Dec 13 17:09
schestowitz	> He was great and was often in international news for the good things he	Dec 13 17:09
schestowitz	> was doing.	Dec 13 17:09
schestowitz	I remember him for many reasons, mostly good.	Dec 13 17:09
*TweetTuxMachines @omicron6 favourited 'Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux...'		Dec 13 17:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyberpunk RTS Satellite Reign Arrives on Steam	Dec 13 17:17
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux http://t.co/JDl3cs97Wp	Dec 13 17:17
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Dec 13 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Cyberpunk RTS Satellite Reign Arrives on Steam for Linux - Softpedia		Dec 13 17:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3y9i	Dec 13 17:17
*TweetTuxMachines @7point11 followed @tuxmachines		Dec 13 17:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/deena651us/status/543896987649601536	Dec 13 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deena651us: True “@schestowitz: #drones strikes, torture wars of conquest. r th fuel of #terrorism just ask recruit of violent groups why they r joining		Dec 13 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon Edition : Video	Dec 13 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	Overview and Screenshot Tours	Dec 13 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8aQ4jZjsFd (linuxscoop.com)	Dec 13 17:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com \| Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon Edition : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours - Linux Scoop		Dec 13 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines When android software comes to rizen linux	Dec 13 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/F9rofAw98A (www.tizenexperts.com)	Dec 13 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3yi8	Dec 13 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Watch Styler App updated to version 1.0.05, shows better Compatibility with Gear S - Tizen Experts		Dec 13 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail	Dec 13 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	SoCs http://t.co/qY1AKfSydO (linuxgizmos.com)	Dec 13 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3yi9	Dec 13 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail SoCs · LinuxGizmos.com		Dec 13 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear “Lollipop” First Look and Tour!	Dec 13 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/tl6C0N6quy (www.droid-life.com)	Dec 13 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3yk9	Dec 13 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.droid-life.com \| Android Wear “Lollipop” First Look and Tour! \| Droid Life		Dec 13 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nautilus Ported To New GTK Widgets For GNOME	Dec 13 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	3.16 http://t.co/BecPXWKfwJ (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 13 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3yka	Dec 13 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Nautilus Ported To New GTK Widgets For GNOME 3.16		Dec 13 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SparkyLinux 3.6 "Annagerman" Lands with LXDE,	Dec 13 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	MATE, Razor-Qt, and Xfce Flavors	Dec 13 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Se0YkO6YP6 (news.softpedia.com)	Dec 13 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3ykc	Dec 13 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| SparkyLinux 3.6 "Annagerman" Lands with LXDE, MATE, Razor-Qt, and Xfce Flavors - Softpedia		Dec 13 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear update: Everything you need to	Dec 13 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	know http://t.co/rTuv7h3cHq (www.wareable.com)	Dec 13 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3ylh	Dec 13 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wareable.com \| Android Wear update: Everything you need to know		Dec 13 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside CoreOS Linux, Why Fleet and etcd Matter	Dec 13 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	[VIDEO] http://t.co/8qRtlkV1eq	Dec 13 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	(mobile.serverwatch.com)	Dec 13 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3yli	Dec 13 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.serverwatch.com \| Inside CoreOS Linux, Why Fleet and etcd Matter [VIDEO]		Dec 13 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source	Dec 13 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Benchmarking Test Farm	Dec 13 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0dnNMUUvHO (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 13 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3ylj	Dec 13 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source Linux Benchmarking Test Farm		Dec 13 17:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture	Dec 13 18:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lBpXis8Bgv (www.phoronix.com)	Dec 13 18:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3yqt	Dec 13 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture		Dec 13 18:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail	Dec 13 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	SoCs http://t.co/4MUr7i7lOY	Dec 13 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3yqu	Dec 13 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail SoCs \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Crowdfunding a USB-stick-sized, GNU/Linux-ready	Dec 13 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	computer http://t.co/TOGkyAsiHI	Dec 13 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	(boingboing.net)	Dec 13 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net \| Crowdfunding a USB-stick-sized, GNU/Linux-ready computer - Boing Boing		Dec 13 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3yqv	Dec 13 18:14
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MinceR	http://40.media.tumblr.com/a3621569e19b2243fa796ba5f77bd877/tumblr_nghxpsbOQz1r7p8tto1_1280.jpg	Dec 13 18:53
*TweetTuxMachines @LilianadBarr6Sk followed @tuxmachines		Dec 13 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Crowdfunding a USB-stick-sized, GNU/Linux-ready	Dec 13 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	computer http://t.co/WSE5YOww0Q	Dec 13 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3z83	Dec 13 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Crowdfunding a USB-stick-sized, GNU/Linux-ready computer \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 13/12/2014: Android Wear “Lollipop”,	Dec 13 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	European Commission and FOSS	Dec 13 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/R39zNzoE0R (techrights.org)	Dec 13 19:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tylervigen.com \| Divorce rate in Maine correlates with Per capita consumption of margarine (US) [ http://ur1.ca/j3zh4 ]		Dec 13 19:48
MinceR	:)	Dec 13 20:11
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MinceR	apparently checking pointers for NULLness before dereferencing them is unimportant in pid1 >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74589	Dec 13 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org \| Bug 74589 – systemd segfaults if no cgroups are available [ http://ur1.ca/j3zxv ]		Dec 13 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/dV1VKBGhpK	Dec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3zyu	Dec 13 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Screenshots \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/dQU2IvMrQp	Dec 13 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3zyw	Dec 13 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/veAOrCbmKJ	Dec 13 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Dec 13 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/j3zyx	Dec 13 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Dec 13 20:56
cubexyz	more bad hoodoo about systemd:	Dec 13 22:21
cubexyz	http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SystemdCrashAndMore	Dec 13 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca \| Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SystemdCrashAndMore [ http://ur1.ca/j3g4e ]		Dec 13 22:21
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msb_	Let's go into full conspiracy mode and figure out why all the major distros have adopted systemd! It wasn't necessary, it violates several major Unix design principles, and it turns PID1 into a grenade with the pin pulled out. Did the top distro admins, who surely know better, have their families threatened? Were their pets disemboweled on their porch? What?	Dec 13 23:51
msb_	MinceR: ? cubexyz? Maybe they were bribed?	Dec 13 23:54
cubexyz	I doubt it	Dec 13 23:54
cubexyz	it's unclear	Dec 13 23:54
cubexyz	it's the younger developers that are pushing it	Dec 13 23:55
msb_	So one could imagine that they just don't understand Unix design principles. But those are so simple and easy to understand!	Dec 13 23:57
cubexyz	I think it's partly Stallman's fault	Dec 13 23:57
msb_	For not objecting to it?	Dec 13 23:58
cubexyz	Stallman modelled GNU after Unix, but says "GNU is Not Unix"	Dec 13 23:58
cubexyz	he actually never liked Unix	Dec 13 23:58
cubexyz	so the younger folks are tapping into that dislike of Unix	Dec 13 23:58
cubexyz	I disliked Unix too	Dec 13 23:59
msb_	I thought he did like it, but wanted to create a free version.	Dec 13 23:59
cubexyz	that was before I got access to early Bell Labs source code	Dec 13 23:59
cubexyz	then I changed my mind	Dec 13 23:59

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