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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5260001Dec 07 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android motorcycle helmet open for pre-order http://linuxgizmos.com/skuly-android-motorcycle-helmet-open-for-pre-order/ #android #linuxDec 07 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Android motorcycle helmet open for pre-order ·  LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/j18mg ]Dec 07 00:26
schestowitz__"As someone who rode cycles quite a lot when I was younger, this sounds like a bad idea. You want all of your attention on THE ROAD, not a half-ton of info 2 inches in front of your nose."Dec 07 00:26
schestowitz__""Dec 07 00:27
schestowitz__"Dec 07 00:27
schestowitz__"This sounds like a very bad idea."Dec 07 00:27
schestowitz__Maybe text reading while you ride... next, adding "OK Google" to type some...Dec 07 00:27
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5264411Dec 07 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #phoronix Linux Test Farm http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1NDg great stuffDec 07 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Preview Of The Massive New Open-Source, Linux Test Farm [ http://ur1.ca/j18mt ]Dec 07 00:28
schestowitz__http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1801548g64.gifDec 07 00:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 7/12/2014:  Typhoon Hagupit, AURORAGOLDDec 07 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RlQVdxOrrO (techrights.org)Dec 07 01:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j18ziDec 07 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/12/2014: Typhoon Hagupit, AURORAGOLD | TechrightsDec 07 01:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/3ZMN8Zud25Dec 07 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 01:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j18zkDec 07 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesDec 07 01:37
cubexyzschestowitz, or whoever is reading...Dec 07 07:28
cubexyzI had to explicitly block some microsoft urls from my adsenseDec 07 07:28
cubexyzI saw a few "upgrade to windows 8.1" ads on my blogDec 07 07:29
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5264523Dec 07 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #MimikDec 07 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_14c3dc0093bf2fa11914.jpegDec 07 08:13
schestowitz__"cute kitten dreams of nothing but murder all day."Dec 07 08:14
schestowitz__cubexyz: that's their target audienceDec 07 08:14
schestowitz__trying to convert the other sideDec 07 08:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/Vem7P0AjdRDec 07 08:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 08:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bd6Dec 07 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesDec 07 08:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ubuntu and canonical Chasing the wrong problemsDec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/OXNMv1DHyE (benjaminkerensa.com)Dec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bftDec 07 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjaminkerensa.com | Chasing the wrong problems – Benjamin KerensaDec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FirefoxOS tethering in actionDec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/G0ju27CaPdDec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk)Dec 07 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Hotspots: My Firefox OS phone saved the dayDec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bfuDec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring UpDec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Arch Linux http://t.co/G7iyCrqEZ9Dec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Dec 07 08:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bfvDec 07 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up Arch LinuxDec 07 08:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chasing the wrong problemsDec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/UVQoUwh5yh (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bnrDec 07 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chasing the wrong problems | Tux MachinesDec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring UpDec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Arch Linux http://t.co/PeerV7QPSjDec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bnyDec 07 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up Arch Linux | Tux MachinesDec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/JG2PqCUvKQDec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Dec 07 09:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bo0Dec 07 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired, GNOME-Aligned DesktopDec 07 09:16
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/541544986379300864Dec 07 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz what is remarkable is that even their censored truth is too damaging to release...that says a lot right there.Dec 07 10:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Continues its March into theDec 07 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprise http://t.co/chBpBYSVcIDec 07 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 11:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1cbvDec 07 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Continues its March into the Enterprise | Tux MachinesDec 07 11:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Pydio: open source alternative to Dropbox & BoxDec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LQgXwdBu1y (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1cbxDec 07 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pydio: open source alternative to Dropbox & Box | Tux MachinesDec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,Dec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/nvzE8AI6ibDec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 11:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1cbyDec 07 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired, GNOME-Aligned Desktop | Tux MachinesDec 07 11:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/metacode/status/541554416491696129Dec 07 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@metacode: Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop http://t.co/ZKGCGKW9cN (@schestowitz) "The Babe of Neoliberalism"Dec 07 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ukprogressive.co.uk | Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop | UK ProgressiveDec 07 11:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541558895265607681Dec 07 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz And thank you to @timberners_lee for the HTML groundwork. Adobe DRM will still be in HTML5 but that's better than #adobe Trash.Dec 07 11:48
schestowitzNo, @timberners_lee messed up in a very big way by endorsing #drm in #html5 after #mpaa had paid #w3cDec 07 11:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541561640601149440Dec 07 11:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I said thanks to him for HTML. I'm not convinced DRM can be kept *out* of HTML5. Regardless, better than Flash.Dec 07 11:57
schestowitzIt was already out of HTML. Then came HTML5 and with support from TimBL and Mozilla (among others) DRM got in.Dec 07 11:58
DaemonFCschestowitz, A friend's iPhone got hijacked by malware and started sending me pornographic spam on Facebook.Dec 07 11:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840  https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566316067295233 https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566614290706432Dec 07 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not existDec 07 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I think this is a compromise that at least can help us throw out the Trash. But I understand why it's not idealDec 07 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: .@schestowitz @timberners_lee Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?Dec 07 12:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: was the pr0n at least good, or just some spam URLs?Dec 07 12:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840Dec 07 12:43
schestowitz"Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?"Dec 07 12:43
DaemonFCStuff like "Hook up with women in your local area."Dec 07 12:43
DaemonFCThat link is dead, according to Twitter.Dec 07 12:44
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schestowitz.@petrock  I don't think DRM is needed at all, except by the copyright monopoly, which we don't need (should adapt to - not tame - WWW)Dec 07 12:45
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MinceR(nsfw) http://de1.eu.apcdn.com/full/126290.jpgDec 07 13:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/5415893284936https://twitter.com/petrock/status/54158932849369088090880Dec 07 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not existDec 07 14:17
schestowitzNo, common error. DRM exists in some areas, but in others it struggles to gain traction, e.g. Web. Tim B-L ushered it in.Dec 07 14:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541599086319640576Dec 07 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz In practice, people are installing "Trash" to access media served through the web browser. Isn't this better if not perfect?Dec 07 14:42
schestowitzPeople installed Trash to play YouTube (they no longer need to do this). I don't know people using it for DRM stuff (rarity)Dec 07 14:43
MinceReven for videos with ads?Dec 07 14:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541604604903825408Dec 07 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I know a lot of people who use Trash to stream movies and sports. Youtube is a big player but not the only big player.Dec 07 14:50
schestowitzMinceR: mehDec 07 14:50
schestowitzeither way, we don't rely much on DRMDec 07 14:51
schestowitzstreams and DRM are separate thingsDec 07 14:51
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schestowitz"I don't know who are your usual sources around the EPO. Check with them in case you have doubts on the authenticity. This is my first and last email ever."Dec 07 15:54
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856Dec 07 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.Dec 07 18:48
schestowitz__the only thing that doesn't work yet is pausing a video and resuming it a long time later, like the next day; it plays for a while (what's still cached in the buffer) and then displays an error. With flash it reloads the vid and resumes playing; not very beautiful either but at least it works""Dec 07 18:48
schestowitz__"I'm glad to see that Flash is no longer required. As good as the plug-in might be for some, especially for streaming TV channels, it opens up a can of worms in the form of invasive advertisements."Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__"So Youtube's no skip ads are only their own design???"Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__"With a plug-in like Ghostery, which blocks tracking cookies, the "no skip" ads don't come up."Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__"Thanks for that, and when I have an up to date real Chrome, (my defunct Linux distro has an ancient Chromium that Google Play refuses to talk to), and I have bandwidth of my own, I may get it. Still, are there NO free lunches left in this world?"Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265594Dec 07 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "if the report is not released in a way [Udall] deems transparent, he would consider all options to make it public " http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115Dec 07 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.esquire.com | Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5251963Dec 07 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google Can Now Tell You’re Not a Robot With Just One Click http://www.wired.com/2014/12/google-one-click-recaptcha/ #google #security #captchaDec 07 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Google Can Now Tell You're Not a Robot With Just One Click | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/j1feq ]Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__Which magically makes them "good" for privacyDec 07 18:51
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5263442Dec 07 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: B&N should take #microsoft to court again, both for #extortion and for #bribery http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-barnes-noble-end-nook-marriage-for-62-million/ http://techrights.org/2014/12/06/bribes-against-linux/Dec 07 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com | Microsoft, B&N dissolve Nook marriage for $62 million - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffd ]Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__Oh wait, I forgot about the $1.7 billion dollar share of B&N that Microsoft stole as part of their "deal". Was that announced at the time or did they play some kind of shell game where the value only became evident as Microsoft unloaded the shares onto "institutional investors" who strangely enough think it's worthless today? The $300 in cash may still have served as a bribe despite the larger cost to B&N shareholders. Board members Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__and executives would have been paid off with it.Dec 07 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The Threat is Not Over: Microsoft Bribes Against Linux Adoption and in Favour of Extortion Against Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j189l ]Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__Now Microsoft is handing themselves another $67 million and CNet spins that as Nook being worthless. After Microsoft ruined them it might be, but that's not an inherent problem or the nature of things.Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__"Rape labeled "marriage" in article."Dec 07 18:53
schestowitz__The power of spinDec 07 18:53
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5259958Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2014/court-ruling-paves-the-way-for-european-court-of-human-rights-to-consider-%E2%80%9Cprivacy-not-prism%E2%80%9D-case #privacy #prismDec 07 18:54
schestowitz__"Governments have abandoned brutality? Or just made it less public and gory? I lived in China for 12 years. There brutality is present and endemic in both the governed and the government."Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffr ]Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__I was responding to the first commentDec 07 18:55
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265940Dec 07 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whether the Senate ends up 'declassifying' (publishing) the whole #torture report, #wyden #udall or some unknown source will 'leak' itDec 07 18:56
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__This feels a bit too evasive to me:Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115Dec 07 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esquire.com | Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265879Dec 07 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #udall does not need to do much except read out the blacked out bits in the Senate's #torture report. Someone will transcribe, merge.Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__"My impression is that this 'reading' isn't even anywhere as hard as it sounds. He just has to give the word, and they'll put it in the Congressional Record."Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__Even better thanDec 07 18:57
schestowitz__thenDec 07 18:57
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265507Dec 07 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The thing terror cells should fear most is the end of drone strikes and other such violations of intl' law as it would impede their growthDec 07 18:57
schestowitz__"Indeed. It must have been hard not to notice the symbiotic relationship between Osama bin Laden and George W. Bush that existed for a few years immediately following 9/11. Obama seems unable to pull that off so that he, rather than just the insurgents, enjoys a propaganda benefit."Dec 07 18:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live !Dec 07 22:13
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/tj4qwL4mIH (makululinux.com)Dec 07 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-makululinux.com | MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live ! | MakuluLinuxDec 07 22:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming InDec 07 22:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 3.19 http://t.co/JEu5mugwWCDec 07 22:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Dec 07 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19Dec 07 22:13
schestowitz__cubelog1: http://cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/order-linux-discs.htmlDec 07 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk | Notes on Linux: Order Linux Discs [ http://ur1.ca/j1gty ]Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__"Avoid Systemd by trying AntiX, Slackware or OpenBSD."Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__Do you dislike it this much?Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__cubexyz ^Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__http://www.xombra.com/index.php?do=noticias&nota=6711&op=4&t=xanadu-gnu-linux-busca-beta-teDec 07 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xombra.com | Xanadu GNU/Linux busca beta testers! - xombra.com [ http://ur1.ca/j1gu5 ]Dec 07 22:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 But Still Tough Catalyst FightDec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7dY7UqR9Gv (www.phoronix.com)Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqeDec 07 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight ReviewDec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storageDec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lGmS2PH0tm (www.mobilenapps.com)Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqfDec 07 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobilenapps.com | UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) : Mobile : Mobile & AppsDec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming InDec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 3.19 http://t.co/xCSCBttZmaDec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqgDec 07 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19 | Tux MachinesDec 07 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 But Still Tough Catalyst FightDec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4QIsXIINRk (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqmDec 07 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight | Tux MachinesDec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storageDec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Q4dmnDVSAr (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqnDec 07 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) | Tux MachinesDec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially ReleasedDec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/NINpPoLx2E (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqoDec 07 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released | Tux MachinesDec 07 22:58
cubexyzschestowitz, personally yesDec 07 23:31
cubexyzI'm merely pointing out alternativesDec 07 23:31
cubexyzAntiX looks interestingDec 07 23:32
cubexyzthe younger linux users seem more in favour of systemdDec 07 23:33
cubexyzif you want systemd there are tons of distros out there to choose fromDec 07 23:34
cubexyzif you want to avoid systemd one needs to be more particularDec 07 23:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-CodecsDec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Editions Officially ReleasedDec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AJrEi1rYYC (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1in7Dec 07 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released | Tux MachinesDec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Steve Kemp (Debian): "I had to fight with theDec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian installer to get the beast working"Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PxOCHCnMdv (blog.steve.org.uk)Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1indDec 07 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.org.uk | I eventually installed Debian on a new desktop.Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's BestDec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big ReviewDec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/MfU7aDqmmD (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 23:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1ingDec 07 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review | Tux MachinesDec 07 23:39
cubexyzI don't like distros that drop support for 32-bit cpus or that look bad on 4:3 screensDec 07 23:40
cubexyzbut that's another blog post for laterDec 07 23:40
cubexyzeven dropping 486 support is bad I'd sayDec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Major NVIDIA Stable Driver ReleasedDec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lC2FzbPyrp (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1j30Dec 08 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced forDec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/2jUhAASGWpDec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1j33Dec 08 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for Ubuntu Touch | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Prisoners learning how to code with LinuxDec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/m2wPj0zvk3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1j35Dec 08 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Prisoners learning how to code with Linux | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphillDec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 to developers http://t.co/sADvpoOiorDec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jflDec 08 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google's Massive New Android Update Is ComingDec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 To The Galaxy S5 http://t.co/6gIUH1IczkDec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jfmDec 08 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming To The Galaxy S5 | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Og Maciel: "today is my 3-year anniversary atDec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat!"Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UT15phTPEF (omaciel.github.io)Dec 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jfnDec 08 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-omaciel.github.io | Three Years and Counting!Dec 08 00:59
cubexyzschestowitz, that antiX site you linked to has microsoft adsDec 08 01:03
cubexyzhttp://www.linuxscreenshots.orgDec 08 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Linux Distribution Screenshot ToursDec 08 01:03
cubexyzlooks like they are targetting linux sites for sureDec 08 01:03
cubexyzI've got microsoft.com blocked, should have done that years agoDec 08 01:04
schestowitz__cubexyz: not internationallyDec 08 01:04
schestowitz__through third partyDec 08 01:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I'm glad to announce that I've been awarded aDec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines                 5,000 USD "Flash Grant" by the ShuttleworthDec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Foundation." http://t.co/08bA6PdU14Dec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (upsilon.cc)Dec 08 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-upsilon.cc | Shuttleworth Foundation Flash GrantDec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jhvDec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8BvDec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jhwDec 08 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung and open source | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; NoDec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony XperiaDec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/iYUKEF8kMT (www.gospelherald.com)Dec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jhxDec 08 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gospelherald.com | Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; No Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony Xperia | Gospelherald.comDec 08 01:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has AnnouncedDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines                 New Mystery Game http://t.co/mf8731AfhgDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Dec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jorDec 08 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has Announced New Mystery Game | GamingOnLinuxDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the SameDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Performance as X11 http://t.co/3iByR1xnCLDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 - SoftpediaDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1josDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup LooksDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Stunning http://t.co/m1GIwPymcrDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup Looks Stunning - SoftpediaDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jotDec 08 01:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RHQ 4.13 released  http://t.co/IUnRKkeCdZDec 08 01:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk)Dec 08 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk | Some things to remember: RHQ 4.13 releasedDec 08 01:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jqvDec 08 01:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 21 Release on December 9 ConfirmedDec 08 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BxrDXOph1j (linux.softpedia.com) Dec 08 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kbDJ1qFAVz (www.phoronix.com)Dec 08 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Fedora 21 Release on December 9 Confirmed - SoftpediaDec 08 01:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jqxDec 08 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Fedora 21 Is Coming In Just Two Days With Big ImprovementsDec 08 01:35
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8Bv'Dec 08 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung and open source | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast withDec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 New Update http://t.co/nYZBllG3ZvDec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with New Update - SoftpediaDec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jt0Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Quick Start Guide Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2yWwbvfbX7Dec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.adityapatawari.com) essential reading forDec 08 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adityapatawari.com | Docker Quick Start GuideDec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 sysadminsDec 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jt1Dec 08 01:40
*TweetTuxMachines @SteamSwapReddit favourited 'Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with...'Dec 08 01:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the SameDec 08 01:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Performance as X11 http://t.co/KS1bxBvp1SDec 08 01:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 01:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jwkDec 08 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/RDhgOFWgECDec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k26Dec 08 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux MachinesDec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Features On The Horizon For The LinuxDec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel http://t.co/7fLaTOO2XwDec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Dec 08 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] New Features On The Horizon For The Linux KernelDec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k27Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.18 released http://t.co/bGKYm2fSKVDec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (lkml.iu.edu) " It's been a quiet week, and theDec 08 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 3.18 releasedDec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines                 patch from rc7 is tiny, so 3.18 is out."Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k29Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially ReleasedDec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WvX20rMtLj (linux.softpedia.com)Dec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k2aDec 08 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released - SoftpediaDec 08 02:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-CodecsDec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Editions Officially ReleasedDec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/V3XzjjSEVt (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k3rDec 08 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released - SoftpediaDec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's BestDec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/yUgXnIuHxG (www.forbes.com)Dec 08 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review - ForbesDec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k3tDec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Major NVIDIA Stable Driver ReleasedDec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5Owov1DKy9 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k3uDec 08 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released - SoftpediaDec 08 02:11
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778724786429952   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778878419591168   Dec 08 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz heh, I thought you trying to call companies open-sourcing things #openwashing was kinda sad, but #mono theism is funny. :)Dec 08 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I have a copy of VS 2015 preview installed and they're trying to tie in w/ Xamarin for cross-platform mobile dev. But theDec 08 02:20
schestowitz__all about spreading the API that is a patent threat and domination factor for Microsoft, universally, across devices/platformsDec 08 02:20
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779083298762752   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779188017946625Dec 08 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Xamarin component installer for Windows wouldn't work so I haven't tried making a project. You need a Mac w/ Xcode anyway toDec 08 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz do Xamarin development for iOS, and you can do Xamarin on Android from Linux or Mac, so Windows is the worst platform for it.Dec 08 02:20
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779303692660736Dec 08 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz except if you want to run on Windows Phone of course. MSFT is trying so hard to play their old games of locking people in!Dec 08 02:21
schestowitz__No, they luuuurve ... "open source"... they say soDec 08 02:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779452426858496Dec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz yep. They want to lock people into patented XAML, which is more complicated and confusing than non-patented XML or CSS layout.Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__XAML is another matter, even worse, but failingDec 08 02:22
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779622568792065Dec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been thinking, you can find early Android engineers on video telling devs they chose Java over C# bc of fears of MSFT IP.Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__links?Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779773370810368   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779909039767553Dec 08 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the irony is that all their OEMs ended up getting sued *anyway* by MSFT over other "essential" interop and API patents,Dec 08 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and then *also* got sued by Oracle after they bought Sun, over Java. The irony is they should've gone w/ C#, better language!Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__Better in what sense? Look at the stewardship... a criminal company.Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780044536770560Dec 08 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm thinking of early Google I/O talks with Dan Bornstein, in the Q&A sections. I'll see what I can dig up.Dec 08 02:24
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780307163107329Dec 08 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz better in the technical sense, purely. As an engineer, I prefer C#. To pick one minor feature, it has unsigned types.Dec 08 02:24
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780464369811456   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780590136004608  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780787897450497   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780948862255105Dec 08 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz it's a better language because they took all the good ideas from other languages that came before (incl Java, Ada, Delphi, etc)Dec 08 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz I think the other reasons the Android engineers chose Java over C# were familiarity from having done a previous JVM for Danger,Dec 08 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the feeling that there would be stronger Java IDE tooling (which there definitely is) than C#, and most used Mac or Linux.Dec 08 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz that's why I'm curious about Xamarin Studio as a third-party alternative to VS. I'm a huge fan of IntelliJ (Android Studio).Dec 08 02:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781396839469056  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781635641774080Dec 08 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been a commercial or OSS user of IntelliJ since a Danger colleague recommended it to me in 2005: far superior to Eclipse!Dec 08 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the funny thing is that JetBrains open-sourced and made a free community version of IntelliJ IDEA, and then Google has beenDec 08 02:31
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781968803729408 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782126371164161Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz licensing the code (and paying for a small in-house tools team) to support the (free but closed-source) Android Studio fork.Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I stand corrected: it appears that Android Studio itself is open-source and you can build it yourself (from within itself!) :PDec 08 02:32
schestowitz__IC... Java/Apache.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_StudioDec 08 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Android Studio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/j1kc9 ]Dec 08 02:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782643004555264Dec 08 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz BTW @jetbrains is equally well-known and popular as a C# tools vendor. They're also one of the few Czech tech companies I know.Dec 08 02:35
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782992666914816  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541783442954784768   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784280695701504   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784393082101760  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784471897264129Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'd say @jetbrains is a great model of a small company far from the tech hubs that succeeded by making really great products.Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @jetbrains also found ways to embrace free and open-source models while also finding companies with money to bill for support.Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: BTW @schestowitz you may find in the Oracle transcripts Andy Rubin answering q's about the big license fees that Danger paid to Sun for theDec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "TCK" kits to test the compatibility of Danger's clean-room Java implementation w/ Sun's J2ME, MIDP, etc. standards to get theDec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "coffee cup" logo prominently shown in the system info screen on the Sidekick/hiptop. That's why, even though I was still atDec 08 02:42
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784602398846976   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784710070808576Dec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz Danger when I heard the news that Android (still secret but rumored to be working on a phone) announced their alliance to sellDec 08 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz their own open-source Java-based mobile OS, not licensed from Sun. I figured that might cause them some trouble down the line,Dec 08 02:42
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784814353805312   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784960407846912Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz but I kept my thoughts about the matter to myself (until just now). The trial made it pretty obvious that Oracle was hoping forDec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz a similar type of payday that Sun had been trying to achieve with new-generation mobile platforms like they had been previouslyDec 08 02:43
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785110723297280   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785248292278272Dec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz with J2ME (MIDP, "midlets") for the old feature phones. The funny thing is the Sidekick had to support a MIDP emulation mode,Dec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz purely for the purposes of running Sun's testsuite that cost 6 or 7 figures to license. It's obvious why Android would want notDec 08 02:46
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785451569238017   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785564547002368   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785745728344064Dec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz to get stuck in that situation in the first place, but I wasn't surprised that they would end up being challenged to cough upDec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz some equivalent form of tribute to the makers of Java, for something. Maybe the answer is only to use ISO or ECMA standards. :/Dec 08 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz except that you know just as I do how easily corrupted intl. standards bodies are, LOL! So what's the answer? C++/JS seem safe.Dec 08 02:47
schestowitz__GPLv3 for Java...Dec 08 02:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced forDec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/1vnhZ9DGwkDec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for Ubuntu Touch - SoftpediaDec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1kgxDec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google's Massive New Android Update Is ComingDec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines                 To The Galaxy S5 http://t.co/n3QDo4RMkbDec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (uk.businessinsider.com) new compilers tooDec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Bq4VvAno6Z (www.infoworld.com)Dec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Android 5.0 Lollipop Update For The Galaxy S5 - Business InsiderDec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1kgyDec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers | InfoWorldDec 08 02:48
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856Dec 08 02:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.Dec 08 02:55
schestowitz__"I'd use Chrome but I don't trust Google. At best, I'd use Chromium and only because it's possible to install the Pepper API Flash plug-in in there but ultimately, I'd rather have a system without ANY kind of proprietary software."Dec 08 02:55
schestowitz__Sometimes I run Chromium but still feel guilty about itDec 08 02:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines andDec 08 04:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Features On The Horizon For The LinuxDec 08 04:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Features On The Horizon For The Linux Kernel | Tux MachinesDec 08 04:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.18 released http://t.co/2IuNM4wR1hDec 08 04:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.18 released | Tux MachinesDec 08 04:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/5V2G59ibPADec 08 04:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/vWYUto4E4lDec 08 04:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesDec 08 04:46
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806658289008640  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806905660669953   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807075542564865   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807371261997056Dec 08 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz that only applies if you use Oracle's official version of Java, not if you go write your own VM like Dalvik (or ART).Dec 08 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz from what I gathered by reading the court coverage, the essential sticking point was that Sun didn't want a royalty-free AOSP.Dec 08 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the Android team didn't want to use Sun's JVM anyway, because they thought they could do better, and then give it away.Dec 08 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but why would *anyone* want to build a mobile OS on top of GPLv3 version of Java when all OEMs want to go Apache/BSD licensed?Dec 08 08:16
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807887857614848   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808418546147328   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808566185623552   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808646246514688Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz IMO rather than add a single new line of GPL, you'd have a more sellable product rebasing on top of *BSD kernel, not LInux. :)Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the other impression I formed from the Oracle vs. Google case is that Java is dead outside of enterprise, smart cards, etc.Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Java has a few markets where it utterly dominates, like COBOL does, or IBM mainframes, but in retrospect, applets in web pagesDec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz were a doomed proposition bc they didn't have a proper bridge to the DOM. JavaScript was the real answer, but the VMs neededDec 08 08:18
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808797262442496  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808932025405440   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809241862836224    https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809546449006592Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz to catch up. The arrival of Chrome spurred interest elsewhere, and now there are multiple great open-source JS VMs besides V8.Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Regardless, Java is too late to succeed on phones again, I think. It's had its day in the Sun, as it were. ;)Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & on the closed-source, professional, high-end, supercomputer side is Apple, who have the best APIs, the best silicon, etc.Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & notice that Apple has been against Java on iOS, against even letting Firefox, Chrome or any other browser use their own VM.Dec 08 08:19
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809765513310209   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810145903132672  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810308428206080   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810437830873088   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810669457137664Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz there's an interest in people cross-compiling from other source languages (Java, C#, JS) into Obj-C to get into Apple's store.Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz tl;dr is I'm not going to second-guess the decisions made to use Java in the way Android did bc the plan obviously succeeded.Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm trying to figure out what the mobile landscape is going to look like outside of iOS. I'm typing this on a Chromebook fromDec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Google (purchased w/ my own money) that is doing everything in JavaScript and C++ (and some NaCl), no JVM whatsoever.Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz it has an Intel Core processor and Google's ultra-sandboxed version of Adobe Flash, whose proprietary flavor of JavaScript isDec 08 08:20
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810776852275200   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810906380763136  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811110605635585  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811894122577920Dec 08 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz exactly what Sun was trying to do (and failed utterly) with Java applets. So even by its own standards (annoying adverts, DRM)Dec 08 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz a commercial, closed-source, non-free, JavaScript-based advertising platform beat Java applets and only now is HTML5 able toDec 08 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz begin to finally kill off Flash to enable a fully open-standards based Web. Just like Steve Jobs would've wanted (no sarcasm).Dec 08 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Related: "No thank you, @infoworld, I won't be viewing those particular banner ads tonight." ;P http://t.co/zPDEJqrG48Dec 08 08:22
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812764604252161   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812873207365632   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541813064706686976Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz The biggest irony of all with Java is their famous battle w/ Microsoft over control of the platform caused MSFT to scuttle aDec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz perfectly good Java-based mobile platform (with Danger) along w/ doing anything Java-related at all for fear of more trouble.Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but first they invented .NET and C# to give themselves a completely different proprietary VM to tout & ultimately neglect. :/Dec 08 08:23
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541856841169260544Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: cc @schestowitz: replacement #Android toolchain bypasses use of Oracle's javac and Java .class files, by @syegulalp http://t.co/PYMimzf67kDec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers | InfoWorldDec 08 08:23
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265763Dec 08 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World? http://www.malaysiandigest.com/business/531531-does-china-really-have-the-most-powerful-economy-in-the-world.html interesting points. #chinaDec 08 08:40
schestowitz__"Are you trying to get me talking about the banks??? (suitable emoticon)."Dec 08 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.malaysiandigest.com | Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World?Dec 08 08:40
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5267125Dec 08 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the Chinese economy halted production tomorrow, would anyone notice? How about US halt? Therein lies the answer about economic dominance.Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__"Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__If the US halted production tomorrow that would leave me with bad taste in the mouth.Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__Believe it or not I haven't managed to find toothpaste and toothbrushes non-US made, besides that I have been doing fine.Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__"Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__They're made in China too (brushes)Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856Dec 08 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__"I completely understand you, I feel the same way. I'm not using GNU/Linux at this very moment but when I do again, it'll be completely free with Trisquel most likely. It's not open-source that I believe in but rather free software. Chromium does not strike me as free software."Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__"Chromium could not be FREE considering Google's ethos. So why use an out of date version of Chrome, (even more outdated if you use Debian Stable repos), rather than a continually updated Chrome?"Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__"Why not just use Firefox or something lighter which you know to be free and boycott the very idea of Flash since it is insecure and used to deliver ever-more-invasive advertisements?"Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__"I choose Chrome on the basis it works for me. No guilt feelings. Fortunately my philosophy/religion holds that Compromise is inevitable. I also watch a little YouTube, but I use DuckDuckGo as my Search Engine to avoid being tracked, so far avoided potentially spying friendly smartphones and try to keep below the Man's radar. Doubtless I frequently fail, but much much less so than the F*c*book generation who may some day regret Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__giving up their freedom so cheaply."Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__"Unfortunately, all of our friends insist on being on Facebook regardless of our constant calls to use Diaspora and/or rely on e-mail alone. They're incredibly hard-headed about giving up a service which does nothing good for them."Dec 08 08:42
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268916Dec 08 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #mono theism: the misguided false belief that #windows APIs will somehow be compatible with #gnu #linux http://www.gamedev.net/topic/663511-bmfont-on-linux-a-possibility/Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__"Use WINE?"Dec 08 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamedev.net | BMFont on Linux. A possibility? - AngelCode - GameDev.net [ http://ur1.ca/j1q92 ]Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__Wine is for users rather than developersDec 08 08:43
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268413Dec 08 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prisoners learning how to code with Linux http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/prisoners-learning-how-to-code-with-linux/ #gnu #linux #educationDec 08 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com | Prisoners learning how to code with Linux [ http://ur1.ca/j1q9e ]Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__"certainly a great way to lose weeks ;)"Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__"Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__"Requested Range Not Satisfiable"Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__That's a new error for me. Never seen that in my life.Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__"Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__Works from hereDec 08 08:44
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268969Dec 08 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Saying that #EricGarner sold cigs similar to saying #drone victims were engaging in "suspicious activity"; health problems="imminent threat"Dec 08 08:50
schestowitz__"Wow, being killed for selling cigarettes is fine? That sounds so Nazi."Dec 08 08:50
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5269008Dec 08 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. #Rockefeller 's shameful attempt to kill #FOIA reform? https://freedom.press/blog/2014/12/why-arent-more-news-outlets-covering-sen-rockefellers-shameful-attempt-kill-foia-reformDec 08 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freedom.press | Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. Rockefeller's shameful attempt to kill FOIA reform? | Freedom of the Press Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/j1qc3 ]Dec 08 08:51
schestowitz__"Do you really need to ask? We both know that the media is bought and owned by the people who would benefit from these reforms."Dec 08 08:51
schestowitz__"Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__I got your email address from a friend.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__You are probably aware of what is going on at the EPO.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__I attach a demo poster/flyer for tomorrows solidarity demos in The Hague and Munich, for your convenience.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__I further attach a publication (by an unknown group of authors) illustrating the worksphere within the Office. Enjoy the reading.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__The background is that two colleagues currently face disciplinary measures for their activity as members of the Internal Appeals Committee,Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__although persons carrying out such duties are protected against such measures.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__It is simply another example of an abuse of power of EPO president Bemoît Battistelli.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__Please do not hesitate to contact me if you want to get more information.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__Best regards, an epo insiderDec 08 09:11
schestowitz__"Dec 08 09:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines andDec 08 10:27
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Prisoners on GNU/Linux http://t.co/uD3hc24A2FDec 08 10:27
TweetTuxMachines @_hemalc        (techrights.org)Dec 08 10:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines and Prisoners on GNU/Linux | TechrightsDec 08 10:27
schestowitz__> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949Dec 08 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Microsoft Calls Its Time On The Nook Tablet [ http://ur1.ca/j1rdn ]Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__> Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__> I think you saw this already.Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https://twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832Dec 08 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https:/twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832 )Dec 08 10:46
schestowitz__> I think you saw this already.Dec 08 10:46
schestowitz__I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.Dec 08 10:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/ZE3Vg4YQgYDec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 10:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux MachinesDec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? YourDec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 tech questions answered  http://t.co/NwQNLaB277Dec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theguardian.com)Dec 08 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered | Technology | The GuardianDec 08 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/sXPuTYQlNlDec 08 10:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux MachinesDec 08 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? YourDec 08 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 tech questions answered http://t.co/8OeS6LNb6dDec 08 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to theDec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and MoreDec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6y8DvgDI1m (www.linux.com)Dec 08 17:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More | Linux.comDec 08 17:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hHgVw1vrvU (dot.kde.org)Dec 08 17:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success | KDE.newsDec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker: Here, take the wheel – now YOU can runDec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines                 your own containers http://t.co/0eJqneFR03Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Dec 08 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Docker: Here, take the wheel – now YOU can run your own containers • The RegisterDec 08 17:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+Dec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IDrOvKXc5A (opensource.com)Dec 08 17:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Review: Raspberry Pi A+ | Opensource.comDec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to theDec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and MoreDec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Ly8tgz0XkC (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 17:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great SuccessDec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cJ8wIHyRNg (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 17:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+Dec 08 17:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ywg5snlGcZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 17:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tinkering with the Raspberry Pi A+ | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:31
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268413Dec 08 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prisoners learning how to code with Linux http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/prisoners-learning-how-to-code-with-linux/ #gnu #linux #educationDec 08 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com | Prisoners learning how to code with Linux [ http://ur1.ca/j1q9e ]Dec 08 17:42
schestowitz_bed2|Huh. Works in Rekonq. What's that all about?|Dec 08 17:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Cockpit Management Console In Fedora 21Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Makes Linux Administration EasyDec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/3NSx7ILgaA (www.phoronix.com)Dec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1vexDec 08 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] The Cockpit Management Console In Fedora 21 Makes Linux Administration EasyDec 08 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Founder Must Right His ShipDec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6sU7lOVwsv (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1vf1Dec 08 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker Founder Must Right His Ship | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SK Telecom develops open-source oneM2M IoTDec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 platform http://t.co/1PlJ7OT3IIDec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 17:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1vfcDec 08 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SK Telecom develops open-source oneM2M IoT platform | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:59
MinceR> one sec researcher made a funny cabaret speech on sec industry. loving his quote "why one needs jailbars if one can be in the cloud?" lolDec 08 18:13
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5267125Dec 08 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the Chinese economy halted production tomorrow, would anyone notice? How about US halt? Therein lies the answer about economic dominance.Dec 08 18:36
schestowitz_bed2"Sure, but since are US-branded most of the earnings go to the US and that's not the idea in a boycott, I meant neither US-manufactured nor US-branded. I'm pretty sure Chinese make toothpaste and toothbrushes since I bought that in Japan, but here in Banana Republic I cannot find them."Dec 08 18:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why Channel 4 chose open-source MuleSoft overDec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines                 'prohibitively expensive' Oracle and MicrosoftDec 08 22:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Channel 4 chose open-source MuleSoft over 'prohibitively expensive' Oracle and Microsoft | Tux MachinesDec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LiveUSB-Creator Is Ready For Fedora 21Dec 08 22:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JAbgR6Op7V (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 22:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LiveUSB-Creator Is Ready For Fedora 21 | Tux MachinesDec 08 22:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mobile-Desktop ConvergenceDec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/EYSbjbqLXg (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 23:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mobile-Desktop Convergence | Tux MachinesDec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Errplane Snags $8.1M To Continue Building OpenDec 08 23:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Source InfluxDB Time Series DatabaseDec 08 23:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Errplane Snags $8.1M To Continue Building Open Source InfluxDB Time Series Database | Tux MachinesDec 08 23:03
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schestowitz"thanks to the brilliance of Steve Jobs"Dec 09 12:15
schestowitzLOLDec 09 12:15
schestowitzhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2473027,00.aspDec 09 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcmag.com | Apple's Trillion-Dollar Dilemma | Tim Bajarin | PCMag.comDec 09 12:15
schestowitz"what is the main difference between software engineering and software development? I'm just going to study at university (bachelor's degree), but i don't know the difference."Dec 09 12:23
schestowitz"and which degree do i need to work as a developer? computer science may be?"Dec 09 12:23
schestowitz"(sorry for my english, i'm not a native speaker)"Dec 09 12:24
schestowitz"I've already some skills in software development...'Dec 09 12:24
schestowitzUsually, software engineering and software development are the same. Computer engineering is the odd one (hardware).Dec 09 12:24
msb_cubexyz: I've got skype running again on my old Suse 11.4 machine, using the pulseaudio emulator for alsa apulse:  https://github.com/i-rinat/apulseDec 09 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | i-rinat/apulse · GitHubDec 09 12:26
msb_Anybody want to call me, my skype ID is    markbilkDec 09 12:27
MinceRsoftware engineering is supposed to be software development with forethought and competenceDec 09 12:36
MinceRbut those are usually missing regardless of nameDec 09 12:36
MinceRnot going to install skypeDec 09 12:36
msb_Soon after Microshit swallowed skype, it changed skype for Linux to require pulseaudio, which is written by Lennart Poettering, the infamous author of systemd.Dec 09 12:37
schestowitzmsb_:skype?!Dec 09 12:38
msb_schestowitz: yesDec 09 12:38
MinceRso from shitty it went to uber-shittyDec 09 12:38
msb_well, it  usually works pretty well.Dec 09 12:38
MinceRyeah, that's what the m$ crowd says all the timeDec 09 12:39
MinceRand since m$ crap is forced on me routinely, i can see how "well" it worksDec 09 12:39
MinceR(like a train wreck.)Dec 09 12:39
msb_But my point is that two operations to sabotage Linux -- skype/pulseaudio and systemd -- are connected.Dec 09 12:40
MinceRfor example, the letter "C" in CSV (which stands for Comma Separated Values) didn't tip off the drooling idiots in redmond that comma, not semicolon, is supposed to be the field separator in a CSV file.Dec 09 12:40
MinceRcould well be.Dec 09 12:40
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msb_I wonder if there's also a connection with KDE4, which more or less kills multiple virtual desktops.Dec 09 12:41
MinceRi don't even know anymoreDec 09 12:42
MinceRin any case, it takes more than just poettering to fuck everything upDec 09 12:42
MinceRit requires a mass of idiotic followersDec 09 12:42
MinceRwho force his shit to be adopted almost everywhereDec 09 12:42
msb_YES!Dec 09 12:42
msb_But there are several groups working on substitutes for systemd so we can be free of it.Dec 09 12:44
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msb_And apulse to substitute for pulseaudio.Dec 09 12:45
MinceRand we already have sysvinit and alsaDec 09 12:45
msb_And Trinity Desktop (clone of KDE3) to substitute for KDE4.Dec 09 12:45
MinceRand XFCE, and a lot of standalone window managersDec 09 12:46
*amarsh04 doesn't like how both brassero and k3b in Debian depend indirectly on systemdDec 09 12:46
msb_The problem now with sysvinit is that a lot of apps are being warped to depend on systemd facilities.Dec 09 12:46
amarsh04at least there are other cd burning packagesDec 09 12:46
amarsh04and hplip for that matter, although I can use my printer fine without hplip and just cups-related packagesDec 09 12:47
MinceRthose apps may have to be discarded, thenDec 09 12:48
amarsh04that's what I did with my other pc (running kde 4.x)Dec 09 12:48
amarsh04this machine still running kde 3.5 can still use the ancient k3b Dec 09 12:49
amarsh04the incidental breakage with no alternative solutions isn't helpfulDec 09 12:50
amarsh04e.g. recent versions of udev don't recognise the mass storage device mode of my nokia handsetDec 09 12:50
MinceRindeedDec 09 12:50
amarsh04so I'm holding back udevDec 09 12:50
amarsh04if I was running systemd, I wouldn't have the luxury of using a version of udev that ancientDec 09 12:51
msb_amarsh04: A. I don't think the breakage is incidental -- it's sabotage of Linux. B. alternative solutions are the various shims that allow systemd-warped apps to run on sysvinit systems.Dec 09 12:53
amarsh04the shims that aren't maintainedDec 09 12:53
msb_Eventually people will settle on one or two of them and they will be maintained.Dec 09 12:54
MinceRthe shims retain some or all of the overhead and braindead designDec 09 12:55
msb_But they are under control of people, not psychopaths.Dec 09 12:57
msb_And once that gets going, some of the more important apps can be reverted.Dec 09 12:58
amarsh04I like having alternative ways of doing things and still have the alternatives available by the package system such as in DebianDec 09 12:58
MinceRdebian has already committed to breaking your system if you don't use systemdDec 09 12:59
schestowitz"    “Microsoft loves Linux,” said Bob Kelly, Corporate Vice President at Microsoft"Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz"Dec 09 12:59
schestowitzSounds like Microsofts pays nicely for a few weeks of having Ubuntu Core exclusively.Dec 09 12:59
schestowitzAlso not the first time MS is having affair with Linux. See their Suse partnership.Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz"Dec 09 12:59
schestowitz"The creed of the Amoeba: embrace, engulf, and digest."Dec 09 12:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5274985Dec 09 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #canonical still sleeps with a predator http://siliconangle.com/blog/2014/12/09/canonical-restructures-ubuntu-in-mobile-mode-enlists-microsoft-as-first-partner/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxDec 09 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> siliconangle.com | Canonical restructures Ubuntu in mobile mode; Microsoft is first partner | SiliconANGLEDec 09 12:59
schestowitzShuttleworth looks for short-term rewardsDec 09 13:00
schestowitz"Oh, thank you)) i was looking for the information on internet, but wasn't sure exactly which degree i do need."Dec 09 13:00
schestowitz-anonDec 09 13:00
msb_Some people are focusing on getting rid of systemd in Debian -- http://www.freelists.org/list/modular-debian   is a great mailing-list.  Totally anti-systemd, lots of interesting ideas.Dec 09 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freelists.org | FreeLists / Toward a more modular Debian OSDec 09 13:02
MinceRwe've got Devuan goingDec 09 13:06
MinceRthen debian can burn with their systemd, gnome and monoDec 09 13:06
msb_Wiki wants to delete the article about Devuan.  They say it's not real yet.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DevuanDec 09 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Devuan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 09 13:09
MinceRwell, it's wikipediaDec 09 13:09
MinceRthey live off deleting thingsDec 09 13:09
MinceRit's the force that keeps them aliveDec 09 13:10
MinceRthey should have called themselves MemoryHoleDec 09 13:10
msb_ok, here's a Halloween-colored website for it:  https://www.devuan.org/Dec 09 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devuan.org | Devuan - the GNU/Linux by Veteran Unix Admins.Dec 09 13:12
MinceR:)Dec 09 13:13
msb_wikipedia calls all the govt undercover attacks "conspiracy theories".Dec 09 13:13
msb_totally fascist-infiltratedDec 09 13:14
msb_But this site is excellent:  http://globalresearch.ca/Dec 09 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalresearch.ca | Global ResearchDec 09 13:15
msb_Free widespread broadcast communication is the key to honesty prevailing over psychopathy.  And the Net gives us that.  Dec 09 13:21
msb_Maybe the Singularity has already begun!Dec 09 13:21
msb_Honesty and creativity!Dec 09 13:23
msb_MinceR: Are you working with Devuan?Dec 09 13:26
MinceRi'm lurking thereDec 09 13:27
msb_Check that mailing-list too.Dec 09 13:27
MinceRi occasionally doDec 09 13:28
msb_That's where I heard about apulse.Dec 09 13:28
MinceR:)Dec 09 13:29
msb_Oops, I lied.  I got that from the trinity-users list.Dec 09 13:32
msb_They are also anti-systemd.Dec 09 13:33
msb_Overhead isn't very important, since we're all running supercomputers!Dec 09 13:35
msb_(I started with an original IBM-PC.)Dec 09 13:35
msb_Braindeadness is, but with clever design it can be restricted to small areas of code.Dec 09 13:37
msb_(talking about systemd-substitute shims here)Dec 09 13:38
amarsh04when I installed Debian the machine had 48 meg of RAM and a cyrix 166 MHz cpu (still a bit more than 16 Meg of RAM and a 486DX33 in 1993 to run what was then Novell Unixware)Dec 09 13:44
MinceRnowadays even the installer wouldn't run on that, would it?Dec 09 13:45
amarsh04probably notDec 09 13:45
amarsh04current cpu on this machine is AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ with 1024 Megabytes of RAMDec 09 13:45
amarsh04brb, restarting desktopDec 09 13:46
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msb_amarsh04: are you back?Dec 09 14:20
schestowitz"Dec 09 14:29
schestowitzHello Roy,Dec 09 14:29
schestowitzNot sure whether this is interesting for you:Dec 09 14:29
schestowitz"Dec 09 14:29
schestowitzMajor new leakDec 09 14:29
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schestowitz https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/542363086884470785Dec 09 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz Thrown out of a plane maybe; they installed and loved Videla....Dec 09 17:03
schestowitzFell out rather ;-)Dec 09 17:03
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amarsh04I'm here msb_Dec 09 20:56
msb_amarsh04: Hi!Dec 09 20:57
msb_I was just going to say that I think my cpu is the same as yours.  Two cores?Dec 09 20:58
amarsh04I think this one is single coreDec 09 21:00
msb_Run the lscpu command.Dec 09 21:01
msb_I've just gotten mine to display x265/HEVC 720p videos, but it saturates both cores.Dec 09 21:06
msb_Needed the latest version of mplayer plus some tuning.Dec 09 21:07
amarsh04single cpuDec 09 21:08
msb_I wonder if the single and dual core have the same pinout.Dec 09 21:09
amarsh04probablyDec 09 21:09
msb_Maybe you could double your power by buying a new one.Dec 09 21:10
amarsh04yes, but I'll be replacing the motherboard anywayDec 09 21:10
msb_http://www.pricewatch.com/search?q=amd+athlon+x2+desktop&gallery=1&sortby=price&condition=new&discounted=2Dec 09 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pricewatch.com | PriceWatch - Lowest prices, local and nationwide stores selling amd athlon x2 desktop | Page 1 [ http://ur1.ca/j2evt ]Dec 09 21:15
msb_Looks like the 2-core is less than $20 shipped.Dec 09 21:15
msb_mplayer definitely uses both cores.  I don't know if the second one is needed for anything else.Dec 09 21:19
msb_Maybe locatedb -- I don't remember.Dec 09 21:21
msb_x265/HEVC videos are about half the size of x264 for the same resolution/quality.Dec 09 21:28
msb_Save a lot of disk space.Dec 09 21:29
amarsh04I build mplayer from source regularly, and use my 4 core machine to play videosDec 09 21:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/542502150102716417Dec 10 02:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz don´t worry the fringe Far Left in LatAm hates McDonalds more than imperialismDec 10 02:15
schestowitzLOLDec 10 02:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers RaspberryDec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Pi-like size and I/O http://t.co/P4kUUjkMIjDec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Dec 10 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers Raspberry Pi-like size and I/O ·  LinuxGizmos.comDec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2irnDec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged, fanless box-PC runs Linux on HaswellDec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dPDjJaMD8F (linuxgizmos.com)Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2irpDec 10 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged, fanless box-PC runs Linux on Haswell ·  LinuxGizmos.comDec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crossy Road Android Release Date AnnouncedDec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/XV0J3Rp8c1 (www.gamezebo.com)Dec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2irqDec 10 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamezebo.com | Crossy Road Android Release Date Announced - GamezeboDec 10 02:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Porteus Desktop Edition Is a Modular BleedingDec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Edge System Based on SlackwareDec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xLi5CgZqp5 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2iuoDec 10 03:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Porteus Desktop Edition Is a Modular Bleeding Edge System Based on Slackware - SoftpediaDec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     JasPer Vulnerability Closed in All SupportedDec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/RUIgzMEvLDDec 10 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | JasPer Vulnerability Closed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes - SoftpediaDec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2iupDec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.18: 4 Reasons to Love a 'Diseased Newt'Dec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Uo67UPBJUH (www.linux.com)Dec 10 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux 3.18: 4 Reasons to Love a 'Diseased Newt' | Linux.comDec 10 03:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' LinuxDec 10 03:11
TweetTuxMachines                 experience to mobile devicesDec 10 03:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/OKK8DIVZtW (www.itworld.com)Dec 10 03:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices | ITworldDec 10 03:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBMDec 10 03:11
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Power8 support http://t.co/rjNqBbn41bDec 10 03:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM Power8 support- The InquirerDec 10 03:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers RaspberryDec 10 03:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Pi-like size and I/O http://t.co/7hxU7hyrcnDec 10 03:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 03:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $35 quad-core hacker SBC offers Raspberry Pi-like size and I/O | Tux MachinesDec 10 03:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Video: Security Features in systemdDec 10 03:19
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2j1eDec 10 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Video: Security Features in systemd | Tux MachinesDec 10 03:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' LinuxDec 10 03:20
TweetTuxMachines                 experience to mobile devicesDec 10 03:20
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5LaOdN37t0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 03:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices | Tux MachinesDec 10 03:20
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/542525905579438081Dec 10 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @DafnaLinzer @schestowitz @danapriest @JulieATate Thank You. Thank You. & some links to the story, please!Dec 10 03:48
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542523437269282818   https://twitter.com/TheDailyEdge/status/542484791124164608    https://twitter.com/WeMeantWell/status/542492326669475840    https://twitter.com/DafnaLinzer/status/542505853085941762Dec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Said this years ago: torture good as 1) punishment; 2) deterrence? Not good for: true confessions (under force). Also good for: #blowbackDec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheDailyEdge: If torture keeps us safe from terror, how come ISIS is waterboarding Americans? #TortureReport http://t.co/pjSo39lsybDec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnn.com | Report: ISIS waterboarded captives - CNN.comDec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WeMeantWell: So now that torture is wrong and all, the US is offering compensation to its victims? I missed that part of the story right? #TortureReportDec 10 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DafnaLinzer: As you read the #TortureReport, consider sending a "thank you" to @danapriest and @JulieATate for revealing existence of black sites in '05Dec 10 03:55
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542522148527423488   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542521981548363776   https://twitter.com/lydiadepillis/status/542518100709474305Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How not to make friends: "chronic hemorrhoids, an anal fissure, and symptomatic rectal prolapse." http://t.co/9DHwx8DdNmDec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedailybeast.com | Inside the CIA’s Sadistic Dungeon - The Daily BeastDec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #torture programme of #bush and #cheney helped keep sadists off the streets, in some island with "brown" targets http://t.co/3DBAQdyKgzDec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lydiadepillis: The more I read of the #torturereport, the less I can distinguish between us and the people executing journos lately http://t.co/EsQcuugXGxDec 10 03:56
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/ron_fournier/status/542519318077251584   https://twitter.com/regibaby67/status/542519355590729728    https://twitter.com/Patbagley/status/542514826652557315Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ron_fournier: Once more on the #TortureReport: What nobody should excuse, justify, or forgive are the lies. Their stink will haunt US leaders for yearsDec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@regibaby67: Torture and illegal surveillance coincided during Bush years, under the pretense of keeping Americans safe. Feel safer now? #TortureReportDec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Patbagley: Wonder why Dick Cheney doesn't travel? Some countries still prosecute war criminals #Cheney #torture #TortureReport http://t.co/x2ChxdGGRUDec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Patbagley: Wonder why Dick Cheney doesn't travel? Some countries still prosecute war criminals #Cheney #torture #TortureReport http://t.co/x2ChxdGGRUDec 10 03:56
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/AnthonyLawlor/status/542519364897878016Dec 10 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnthonyLawlor: Jack Bauer approach to interrogation reveals sadistic shadow side of the American psyche. #TortureReportDec 10 03:56
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542507703772254208   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504779801309184   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504435839029249   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542504049015144448Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Free Software has made great strides in all kinds of areas and improved our lives." http://t.co/WgZYUSJxlbDec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.lydiapintscher.de | life at the end of the universe » Keeping our eyes on the big picture – High Priority ProjectsDec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If age argument ("it's old news","doesn't matter anymore") helps pardon criminals, then Senate needs to launch $40m report into #drones NOWDec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 10 years from now: #DroneReport about how White House and Pentagon lied about the value and extent of #assassination & covered up civilians?Dec 10 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The right wing justifies #torture in the name of some "higher" (exceptional) goal like "fighting terror" while labeling #wikileaks "terror"Dec 10 03:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542503664288428032   https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/542477772577603587   https://twitter.com/ozchrisrock/status/542493183720947712    https://twitter.com/ArarMaher/status/542494404397641728  https://twitter.com/HinaShamsi/status/542496811265425409Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nypd didn't murder #ericGarner - it was just "simulating drowning". The detainee was in bad health... so it's "fair play". #ICantBreatheDec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: Bush promised there was no torture happening in our name. Well, he lied. #TortureReport http://t.co/iQMlL6N7umDec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: Bush promised there was no torture happening in our name. Well, he lied. #TortureReport http://t.co/iQMlL6N7umDec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: I read a little bit of the torture report and, well, the first problem is that we're a country that has torture reports. #TortureReportDec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArarMaher: What #TortureReport doesn't mention (bc it's not part of mandate) is that countless other suspects were sent 2 other countries 4 processing.Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HinaShamsi: Illuminating @washingtonpost graphic on then CIA-director Hayden's lies to Congress as revealed in #TortureReport http://t.co/HjaQwXstuUDec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | Hayden’s testimony vs. the Senate report - Washington PostDec 10 03:59
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542500750270529536   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542500468715290624    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542499665376055296   https://twitter.com/blogdiva/status/542498259407609856Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Maybe "they hate us" because of imperialism. Maybe it's not "because we have McDonalds" but because we stuff things up their rectum. [2/2]Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: December 9th: the day that many brainwashed TV viewers (Fox, CNN, NBC etc.) realised why "they hate us", to quote Bush. [1/2]Dec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Droning to death versus torturing to death http://t.co/JSnpkp3rVVDec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedailybeast.com | The Bush Administration Homicides - The Daily BeastDec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blogdiva: DAMN... RT @BenjaminNorton: Yet another brilliant cartoon by @LatuffCartoons CIA #TortureReport http://t.co/MurKPNZ8DkDec 10 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LatuffCartoons: Please, RT! U.S. Senate report on @CIA torture, via @operamundi #TortureReport http://t.co/zXYegIHaFqDec 10 03:59
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/542497289793581056    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542499159186489344    https://twitter.com/jimasher/status/542498330782089216   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496987166162944  https://twitter.com/HaroldItz/status/542476254407294976Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: #EricGarner sold a loose cigarette and was killed. George Bush tortured people and got a library. #TortureReport http://t.co/HpNaI4ptm1Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bipartisanism: #EricGarner sold a loose cigarette and was killed. George Bush tortured people and got a library. #TortureReport http://t.co/HpNaI4ptm1Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cnn has reckless 'reporting' which consistently lays blame for "terror" threat on the messengers rather than the torturers. #propagandaDec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jimasher: McClatchy reveals that Congress has no stomach for pursuing crimes detailed in CIA #torturereport. http://t.co/uKCL7GmQLYDec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mcclatchydc.com | National news from McClatchy DC News | Washington DCDec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM Power8 support http://t.co/hxlJPpelXP #suse #ibm #mariadb #databaseDec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theinquirer.net | MariaDB Enterprise adds Suse Linux and IBM Power8 support- The InquirerDec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HaroldItz: Cheney reads #TortureReport, smiles, and happily sighs, "Ah, memories!"Dec 10 04:00
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496833126150144    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542496565525348355   https://twitter.com/missyasin/status/542474449279516672   https://twitter.com/ozchrisrock/status/542474311387586561Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #torture in West often done by proxy, e.g. enabling Mubarak, Assad etc. to torture their own citizens or flying people abroad for tortureDec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Western world can only claim that #torture is evil & inhumane as long as it's able to pretend or deny that it's not doing it (or rename it)Dec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@missyasin: Collaborated w/ @simkhosla for piece showing how #TortureReport is part of global problem http://t.co/zhkDp4an9e http://t.co/aww4pYWfryDec 10 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalpost.com | This graphic shows that torture is a global problem | GlobalPostDec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@missyasin: Collaborated w/ @simkhosla for piece showing how #TortureReport is part of global problem http://t.co/zhkDp4an9e http://t.co/aww4pYWfryDec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: #FoxNews declared torture humane today. Good night everybody! #TortureReport http://t.co/RRysHjH42kDec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ozchrisrock: #FoxNews declared torture humane today. Good night everybody! #TortureReport http://t.co/RRysHjH42kDec 10 04:01
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495949881229313   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495894046666752   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/542495733643890688Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Dissent against #torture -> jail https://t.co/6c5iTBCzeIDec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: From now on every attack on US folks abroad will be (or can be) blamed on those who shine light on #torture - reversing cause and effectDec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Rectal Feeding," Threats to Children, and More: 16 Awful Abuses From the CIA Torture Report http://t.co/DTREfqRg24 #cia #tortureDec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com | "Rectal Feeding," Threats to Children, and More: 16 Awful Abuses From the CIA Torture Report | Mother JonesDec 10 04:01
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/adrianshort/status/542463764126105600    https://twitter.com/kgosztola/status/542464503997153281   https://twitter.com/snowwhite44/status/542463303482474496Dec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@adrianshort: Torture is just fine for the sort of people who feel oppressed by socialised healthcare. #TortureReportDec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kgosztola: CIA chief had inspector general office reviewed cause of "bias" against torture & CIA "morale issues" #TortureReport http://t.co/P0tmi2vH8JDec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kgosztola: CIA chief had inspector general office reviewed cause of "bias" against torture & CIA "morale issues" #TortureReport http://t.co/P0tmi2vH8JDec 10 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@snowwhite44: How can anyone reading the #TortureReport and watching police brutality in our towns cannot see that we are morally bankrupt ? #shutitdownDec 10 04:01
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DaemonFCI'm on my Chromebook. An Acer BIOS update killed my Acer motherboard.Dec 10 06:24
DaemonFCNow I'm trying to rebuild it with standard parts, salvaging as much as possible along the way.Dec 10 06:25
DaemonFCTurns out that the motherboard was proprietary, and so was the power supply, and they're using a laptop DVD-RW drive along with a custom PCMCIA port for wireless and bluetooth, and the two front USB 2.0 ports are using a 19/20 pin USB 3.0 cable that they put a cap on and plugged into some exposed pins on their motherboard.Dec 10 06:26
DaemonFCSo along the way, I picked up a couple of adapter cables. They're so odd that I had to order them from China.Dec 10 06:26
DaemonFCOne is a SATA power to micro slimline SATA power adapter, and the other is intended to let you plug in USB 3.0 front ports into a USB 2.0 9 pin header.Dec 10 06:27
DaemonFCAnd I'm just sort of hoping that one works.Dec 10 06:27
DaemonFCThe buttplugs at Acer didn't bother to make any sort of emergency recover procedure for a bad BIOS flash. The $45 board I ordered has dual BIOS, which will boot off of a backup copy if the flash went wrong.Dec 10 06:28
DaemonFCI feel like the people on Apollo 13, trying to make a CO2 scrubber with duct tape and tube socks.Dec 10 06:29
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*TweetTuxMachines @UbuntuReddit favourited 'JasPer Vulnerability Closed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes...'Dec 10 07:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Happy Fedora Day http://t.co/0iiUEksLdoDec 10 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 07:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Happy Fedora Day | Tux MachinesDec 10 07:33
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5273580Dec 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Piles of leaked documents about the #epo has #techrights dependent on caffeine and late night work again. Like #Comes vs #Microsoft days.Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__"It's late here now, I'll have a look at it in the morning."Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278966Dec 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rugged, fanless box-PC runs #Linux on #Haswell http://linuxgizmos.com/rugged-fanless-box-pc-runs-linux-on-intel-haswell/Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__"Oooh, fanless. Like an Apple II."Dec 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Rugged, fanless box-PC runs Linux on Haswell ·  LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/j2qz7 ]Dec 10 11:30
schestowitz__The only fans it has: people with no brainsDec 10 11:30
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5276813Dec 10 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Threatening to kill your family members is psychological #torture practiced by #cia and it can be more agonising than physical tortureDec 10 11:32
schestowitz__"I imagine many of these threats were genuine. Without real trials, we can't be sure."Dec 10 11:32
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5275192Dec 10 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Users Need 27 Services to Get Most Popular Films, Report Finds http://torrentfreak.com/uk-users-need-27-services-to-get-most-popular-films-report-finds-141208/ distribution and availability issueDec 10 11:33
schestowitz__"I use cclive most of the time and have built a very interesting library over the last few years."Dec 10 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> torrentfreak.com | UK Users Need 27 Services to Get Most Popular Films, Report Finds | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/j2i3p ]Dec 10 11:33
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5273566Dec 10 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Last check of logs (past filtering/DDOS defences) suggests that #ddos against #tuxmachines now ineffective, problem largely solvedDec 10 11:36
schestowitz__"It's interesting that the attackers would run out of bots and that the traffic would not overwhelm you anyway."Dec 10 11:37
schestowitz__"I like 'pure'. Android is crippled when compared to traditional distros."Dec 10 11:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278981Dec 10 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices http://www.itworld.com/article/2856604/with-unity-8-ubuntu-will-bring-pure-linux-experience-to-mobile-devices.html #ubuntu #linux #unityDec 10 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com | With Unity 8, Ubuntu will bring 'pure' Linux experience to mobile devices | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/j2r26 ]Dec 10 11:41
MinceRhttps://narf-archive.com/pix/f0e9c8ec5c03a413b7fad876d2bcf6e987cfea1a.jpegDec 10 13:21
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msb_Maybe "they hate us" because they know the US did 9/11, blamed it on them, and used it as an excuse to murder 2,000,000 of them.  http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911Dec 10 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneDec 10 16:15
msb_schestowitz__: Please see North Tower Exploding by David Chandler item at above address.  Does that convince you?Dec 10 16:16
msb_The other 3 videos are excellent also.Dec 10 16:17
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/542647473131380736Dec 10 16:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz Torture is why many terrorists became terrorists in the first place.Dec 10 16:47
schestowitz__msb_: it didn't explodeDec 10 16:48
msb_schestowitz__: Did you read the part about the flying girders and F=ma?Dec 10 16:49
MinceRhttp://daggle.com/closed-unfriendly-world-wikipedia-2853Dec 10 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daggle.com | The Closed, Unfriendly World Of WikipediaDec 10 16:50
schestowitz__http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/whats-wrong-with-chromeosbook-a-general-musing/Dec 10 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openbytes.wordpress.com | What’s wrong with ChromeOS/book & a general musing on silly people | OpenBytes - Goblin's Domain [ http://ur1.ca/j2twg ]Dec 10 16:58
schestowitz__"Contractual obligations have me drawn away from OpenBytes, its a shame because my time doesn’t even seem to have the opportunity for many 140 character one liners on Twitter.  G+ seems to me like the social media that everyone knows about and didn’t want.  Its funny because I’ve noticed that it seems to get more activity when linking articles on other social media rather than conversations created by a musing on G+ itself.  Dec 10 16:58
schestowitz__Maybe G+ has the charm of being an outlet for people who want to comment on an article and feel more comfortable doing it on their own ground (as in their own G+ page)"Dec 10 16:58
msb_http://drsircus.com/world-news/psychopaths-rule-our-world-medicine-politics-and-warDec 10 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drsircus.com | Psychopaths Rule Our World – Medicine, Politics and War [ http://ur1.ca/j2twl ]Dec 10 16:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Empire: Total War Gold Edition Released forDec 10 17:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux, Video AvailableDec 10 17:11
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/gCHN7psUwA (www.gamershell.com)Dec 10 17:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamershell.com | News: Empire: Total War Gold Edition Released for Linux, Video AvailableDec 10 17:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 22 [development] Already BegunDec 10 17:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LfCyAzYixX (ostatic.com)Dec 10 17:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already BegunDec 10 17:12
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/542726696550813696Dec 10 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz: Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution https://t.co/kLsIqLQ6QJ #eu #europeDec 10 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution | JoinupDec 10 17:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, JournalistDec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/bgUoyz9XGF (www.mylinuxrig.com)Dec 10 17:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com | The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist - My Linux RigDec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: SimplyDec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 awesome performance!   http://t.co/YCodmMbFuhDec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)Dec 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk | Linuxed - Exploring Linux distros: Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply awesome performance!Dec 10 17:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best KDE distro of 2014 http://t.co/amVFo0CsbQDec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (netrunner-mag.com)Dec 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netrunner-mag.com | Netrunner MAG | Best KDE distro of 2014Dec 10 17:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Snappy Ubuntu challenges CoreOS and ProjectDec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Atomic on lightweight cloud serversDec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QduxsKGgbE (www.zdnet.com)Dec 10 17:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Snappy Ubuntu challenges CoreOS and Project Atomic on lightweight cloud servers | ZDNetDec 10 17:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brandDec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 instead of solution http://t.co/gWzCljv8FaDec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 18:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Report: 15 percent of IT tenders ask for brand instead of solution | Tux MachinesDec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already BegunDec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/z7j0ogUrAz (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 18:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 Released, Work on 22 Already Begun | Tux MachinesDec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 10/12/2014: Fedora 21, Ubuntu CoreDec 10 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SKENC9tBjz (techrights.org)Dec 10 18:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/12/2014: Fedora 21, Ubuntu Core | TechrightsDec 10 18:05
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2014/12/connections-between-phones-and-smartwatches-wide-open-to-brute-force-hacks/Dec 10 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Data sent between phones and smartwatches wide open to hackers | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/j2ukm ]Dec 10 18:24
Sosumismartwatches are the new 3dtvsDec 10 18:25
Sosumijust a fadDec 10 18:25
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5278824Dec 10 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: From now on every attack on US folks abroad will be (or can be) blamed on those who shine light on #torture - reversing cause and effectDec 10 18:57
schestowitz__"Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__US people can keep their head deep in the sand if that makes them happy, in my country people believes that they cannot be blamed at all about drug cartels for the same reason.Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__That is not going to solve anything but makes people feel better.Dec 10 18:57
schestowitz__"Dec 10 18:57
msb_schestowitz__: Roy, it's a shame that you, who are so intelligent, and have done so much for humanity, avoid the F=ma proof regarding 9-11 by resorting to a nonsensical quibble about the meaning of a word, and totally ignoring the proof.Dec 10 19:01
msb_schestowitz__: As shown by the videos I link to, the govt investigation of 9-11 reeks of coverup, as did the Warren Commission investigation of the JFK assassination,  Years later, another govt investigation concluded that JFK was murdered by a conspiracy.  This is even mentioned in wikipedia.  More than 2,000,000 people have been murdered, and several nations virtually destroyed, by the US and Israel  using 9-11 as the pretext.  How Dec 10 19:12
msb_many more have to die before people like you stop avoiding the evidence?Dec 10 19:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/SwnSv7NXh9Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2v5jDec 10 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesDec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best KDE distro of 2014 http://t.co/3RD4R3tXNgDec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 19:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2v5lDec 10 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best KDE distro of 2014 | Tux MachinesDec 10 19:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, JournalistDec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YcgBxZJ5GB (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2vc2Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux Setup - Jack Germain, Journalist | Tux MachinesDec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: SimplyDec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 awesome performance! http://t.co/yTwOPsxFd3Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2vc3Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" Mate Review: Simply awesome performance! | Tux MachinesDec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, CarstenDec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5bJrOQPGus (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2vc4Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014 | Tux MachinesDec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystemDec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Kozqd0yQnN (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 19:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2vc6Dec 10 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem | Tux MachinesDec 10 19:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla and Telenor Announce WebRTC CompetencyDec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Center to Advance WebRTC and HelpDec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Standardization http://t.co/9aTc2TDvH4Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 20:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla and Telenor Announce WebRTC Competency Center to Advance WebRTC and Help Standardization | Tux MachinesDec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution ComparisonDec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cU8vqZfCxp (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 20:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution Comparison | Tux MachinesDec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Distros: What’s in a Name?Dec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zlmHDTHYkM (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 20:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Distros: What’s in a Name? | Tux MachinesDec 10 20:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source for sensitive emailDec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2Uk0ZLPiRd (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 20:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source for sensitive email | Tux MachinesDec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Developer Experimenting With Firefox UIDec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines                 In HTML http://t.co/ddIyyqioKhDec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2vxjDec 10 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Developer Experimenting With Firefox UI In HTML | Tux MachinesDec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18Dec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LhD97xUrxf (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 20:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18 | Tux MachinesDec 10 20:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 35 Beta Arrives with Conference CallDec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Features for Hello http://t.co/F9obsIUyAfDec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 35 Beta Arrives with Conference Call Features for Hello | Tux MachinesDec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot TimesDec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ctqcXr2hkx (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2wltDec 10 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot Times | Tux MachinesDec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phoneDec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/T8taJI4iDl (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 10 22:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2wlvDec 10 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone | Tux MachinesDec 10 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS forDec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Embedded Devices Already http://t.co/tlREGlQrOWDec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2yb9Dec 11 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for Embedded Devices Already | Tux MachinesDec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not SupportDec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 32-Bit Linux http://t.co/zDk4ItC6iHDec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2ybbDec 11 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support 32-Bit Linux | Tux MachinesDec 11 01:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Empire: Total War has officially launched onDec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Steam for Linux gamers." http://t.co/KN7GaZJWbXDec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)  http://t.co/53xUdKSF3hDec 11 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Empire Total War Launches For Linux GamersDec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Dec 11 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Empire: Total War Shows Up in the Steam for Linux Library - SoftpediaDec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2ybsDec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds NewDec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1]Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/YcrhLTfdxQ (www.webupd8.org)Dec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2ybuDec 11 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blogDec 11 01:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Archive Manager #PeaZip 5.5.1 LandsDec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 with Many FixesDec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/vb4VjuqL6D (news.softpedia.com)Dec 11 01:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2ybvDec 11 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Open Source Archive Manager PeaZip 5.5.1 Lands with Many Fixes - SoftpediaDec 11 01:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/oADAMo/status/542857024300523521Dec 11 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oADAMo: @schestowitz Get a job trust fund baby!Dec 11 01:47
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/542858861456007168Dec 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (G. Orwell predicted it: Jounior Anti-Sex League)Dec 11 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MinnowBoard MAX Unboxing and Booting ofDec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen:Common http://t.co/flNPz5u9E0Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Dec 11 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | [Video] MinnowBoard MAX Unboxing and Booting of Tizen:Common - Tizen ExpertsDec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2ypmDec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     11 Things to Do After You Install Fedora 21 Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DiEKKK4eWg (www.linux.com)Dec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2ypnDec 11 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 11 Things to Do After You Install Fedora 21 | Linux.comDec 11 02:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 10 Semi-Autonomous Robots That Run LinuxDec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (With Slideshow) http://t.co/gyzFANjwbcDec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Dec 11 02:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2ypoDec 11 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Top 10 Semi-Autonomous Robots That Run Linux (With Slideshow) | Linux.comDec 11 02:06
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/bitty31985/status/542862967138553856Dec 11 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bitty31985: @schestowitz can you help by signing&Rt'ing so we can bring these sick #warcriminals to justice? http://t.co/3LVtYiFZxk #TortureReportDec 11 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> petitions.whitehouse.gov | Arrest Dick Cheney and George W. Bush for crimes against Humanity | We the People: Your Voice in Our GovernmentDec 11 02:11
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542864353872314368Dec 11 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz and how killing through drone strikes is perfectly humaneDec 11 02:17
schestowitz__That's portrayed in the media as always killing just terrorists; same with tortureDec 11 02:18
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/illchangethis/status/542865651056906240Dec 11 02:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@illchangethis: @schestowitz @pandymonium01 Another sign of how far right western politics has gone.Sigh!Dec 11 02:18
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542866641038868480Dec 11 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz but the question is clear. Is torture not ok while killing with drones is? It's a yes or no questionDec 11 02:21
schestowitz__I strongly oppose both and write thousands of times against drones...Dec 11 02:21
cubexyzthere's nothing definite on Turla APT on LinuxDec 11 02:25
cubexyzthere's cd00r.c which is a packet backdoorDec 11 02:26
cubexyznothing in the wild, so to speakDec 11 02:26
schestowitz__is it a real threat?Dec 11 02:26
schestowitz__Or hyped up by Kaspersky?Dec 11 02:26
schestowitz__I could not find independent analyses?Dec 11 02:26
cubexyzthere was something found at news-bbc.podzone.orgDec 11 02:28
cubexyzso kaspersky are saying to stay away from thereDec 11 02:28
cubexyzthere's an md5 listed for the executableDec 11 02:29
cubexyzjust watch for oddball statically linked executables which don't belong :)Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5283695Dec 11 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What is rather sickening yet endemic in Western media is that the #torture question is framed as a debate, as if pro-torture 'legitimate'Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__"Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__The truth is treated as subjective. This is the problem with most news media.Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__I remember almost blowing a gasket when I heard on the radio "[Someone] says Sam Brownback lowered taxes last year, but others disagree."Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__"Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5283606Dec 11 02:30
schestowitz__"audacious is one of my favorite audio players since a while...'Dec 11 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] http://www.webupd8.org/2014/12/audacious-switches-back-to-gtk2-adds.html #gtk #gtk3 #gtk2Dec 11 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org | Audacious Switches Back To GTK2, Adds New Qt-Based User Interface [Audacious 3.6 Alpha 1] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/j2yxr ]Dec 11 02:30
cubexyze.g. if you saw ./Tur.1 running... it's not likely thoughDec 11 02:31
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542867170796249090 https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542867495108247552  Dec 11 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz ok at least you're honest. But nobody seems to have any other suggestions as to how to obtain info from detainees.Dec 11 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz when all other methods were attempted. Torture was NOT a first optionDec 11 02:32
schestowitz__Loaded question: assumes we need this info AND can extract it (if it exists)Dec 11 02:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phoneDec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/anW0FkH38v (jimlynch.com)Dec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2yylDec 11 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com | Lamborghini Tauri 88: The $6,000 Android phone – Jim LynchDec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     This Modular Smartphone Wants to Offer Ubuntu,Dec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines                 SailfishOS http://t.co/glYsNgHthNDec 11 02:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Dec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2yymDec 11 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | New Modular Ara-like Phone Hopes to Offer Ubuntu, SailfishOSDec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A looking glass for GTK+ http://t.co/DZCWVuidLIDec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (blogs.gnome.org)Dec 11 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | A looking glass for GTK+ | Goings onDec 11 02:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2yynDec 11 02:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542870715071217665Dec 11 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz WOW! We don't need this info to protect America from further terrorism? You can't be that stupid. Jesus buy a clueDec 11 02:37
schestowitz__Jesus is a mythDec 11 02:37
schestowitz__Just like your assumptions about intel' gathering.Dec 11 02:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystemDec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/S7rOuX3ATj (linuxgizmos.com)Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2z0nDec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Intel extends its Internet-of-Things ecosystem ·  LinuxGizmos.comDec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Distros: What’s in a Name?Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/13KurFae5L (fossforce.com)Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2z0oDec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Linux Distros: What's in a Name? | FOSS ForceDec 11 02:39
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542871076297248768Dec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz sticking your head in the sand about the threat on your life and the lives of your family is desperate liberalismDec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution ComparisonDec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zFg1QMvyb3 (www.phoronix.com)Dec 11 02:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2z0pDec 11 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] 6-Way Winter 2014 Linux Distribution ComparisonDec 11 02:39
schestowitz__Securing the lives of "Americans" US abroad usually about occupying troops. Bring them back home.Dec 11 02:40
schestowitz__"Americans" (US)Dec 11 02:40
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kodyhoss0910/status/542871330178469888Dec 11 02:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kodyhoss0910: @schestowitz Ok you are clearly crazy and if are truly a dr (which I can't believe) you shouldn't be. God speed idiotDec 11 02:41
schestowitz__Insults fight... not my spiel.  Bye. :-)Dec 11 02:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Breaking down the Red Hat QA processDec 11 02:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TmYbuhhN5B (www.zdnet.com)Dec 11 02:45
TweetTuxMachines                 #security response: https://t.co/GHpdacxNZZDec 11 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Breaking down the Red Hat QA process | ZDNetDec 11 02:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (securityblog.redhat.com)Dec 11 02:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2z2vDec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/12/10/analysis-of-the-cve-2013-6435-flaw-in-rpm/ )Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     No release for the Tizen Samsung Z1 today, butDec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines                 over $1.7m worth of SM-Z130H parts imported toDec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines                 India http://t.co/LQb8HiPofWDec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Dec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | No release for the Tizen Samsung Z1 today, but over $1.7m worth of SM-Z130H parts imported to India - Tizen ExpertsDec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2z2wDec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qt 5.4 released http://t.co/YKMpFMNyYiDec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.qt.digia.com)Dec 11 02:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2z2xDec 11 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.qt.digia.com | Qt 5.4 released | Qt BlogDec 11 02:46
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Football__Tweet/status/542802411006746624Dec 11 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Football__Tweet: AS Roma might be regretting this tweet now. #ASRoma #MCFC http://t.co/4k6ePrHcmfDec 11 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Football__Tweet: AS Roma might be regretting this tweet now. #ASRoma #MCFC http://t.co/4k6ePrHcmfDec 11 02:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler,Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung #Slush2014 http://t.co/JnbGcZZoKyDec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Dec 11 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | [Video] Tizen OS For Smart Life, Carsten Heitzler, Samsung #Slush2014 - Tizen ExpertsDec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2zaiDec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Alpine 3.1.0 released http://t.co/N4H0kD7plDDec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.alpinelinux.org)Dec 11 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.1.0 released | Alpine LinuxDec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2zajDec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zOyx1AhE5h (news.softpedia.com)Dec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j2zakDec 11 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 Gets Linux Kernel 3.18 - SoftpediaDec 11 03:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Alpine 3.1.0 released http://t.co/z1KfJi15qADec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 11 03:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine 3.1.0 released | Tux MachinesDec 11 03:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot TimesDec 11 03:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] F2FS On Linux 3.19 To Support Faster Boot TimesDec 11 03:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS forDec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Embedded Devices Already http://t.co/cD6AcK27tkDec 11 03:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenELEC 5.0 RC2 Is Out, It's an Awesome OS for Embedded Devices Already - SoftpediaDec 11 03:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not SupportDec 11 03:25
TweetTuxMachines                 32-Bit Linux http://t.co/EfR115rdyDDec 11 03:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] AMDKFD -- AMD HSA On Linux -- Will Not Support 32-Bit LinuxDec 11 03:25
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542887228293132288Dec 11 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz Now you're just being paranoid. Like saying Canonical can access your Ubuntu laptop because they *could* put malware in it.Dec 11 03:44
schestowitz__false analogyDec 11 03:45
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542887670465040384Dec 11 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz if you have some proof that Google is putting keyloggers into Chromebooks to get your passwords, then by all means share! :PDec 11 03:45
schestowitz__No keyloggers, straw man...Dec 11 03:45
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888000258969600Dec 11 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz please explain how Google can access the laptop that doesn't involve some malware or backdoor that someone would've found?Dec 11 03:46
schestowitz__According to WSJ, FBI has remote access to AndroidDec 11 03:46
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888092298792961Dec 11 03:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz okay I'm just not sure what it is that you're proposing as the method for Google to steal people's passwords (for the NSA?)Dec 11 03:47
schestowitz__Google is in PRISM and Snowden leaks showed that NSA targets sysadmins for their passwords on 'cloud'Dec 11 03:47
schestowitz__to compromise networks all around the worldDec 11 03:48
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542888553735147522Dec 11 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz that's news. Does the FBI have to install an app first? And Android isn't used in Chromebooks except for some app compat stuff.Dec 11 03:49
schestowitz__WSJ did not explain how FBI does this, but collaboration on backdoor access (like with Microsoft) likelyDec 11 03:49
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/explanoit/status/542888560333193216Dec 11 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@explanoit: @schestowitz @jhamby they have access to phones through 0days and baseband firmware. There's no "install key logger" command at Google.Dec 11 03:50
schestowitz__Cellphones come with a second OS ('smart' phone) that can remotely rake over the first oneDec 11 03:50
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889078937513984 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889142862888962Dec 11 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@explanoit @schestowitz yeah, Google has done a lot of questionable stuff, but intentionally backdooring Android isn't one of them AFAIK.Dec 11 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz ok so you've admitted you're just making shit up now. Got it.Dec 11 03:52
schestowitz__Google only recently claimed that it was finally trying to lock FBI outDec 11 03:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542889369783107584Dec 11 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz there's a lot of factual info in book "@/War" about where Microsoft & Google actually do collaborate, but it's not like that.Dec 11 03:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542890155745366017Dec 11 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz okay, but it's more of "not trying hard enough" to block 0-days than "intentionally adding them to make things easy for FBI".Dec 11 03:55
schestowitz__Informing the NSA about 0-days  before fixing them effectively the same as sharing backdoor infoDec 11 03:55
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542890406698967040Dec 11 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz I'd like to know more about what kinds of baseband exploits are out there. It's shared mem so the BP could easily take control.Dec 11 03:56
schestowitz__There was confirmation of this last year and the year before thatDec 11 03:56
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/suprfluo/status/542890608621551617Dec 11 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suprfluo: @schestowitz @jhamby actually the report was about the FBI using malware to access Android.Dec 11 03:56
schestowitz__ FBI can remotely activate Android and laptop microphones, reports WSJ  http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/1/4580718/fbi-can-remotely-activate-android-and-laptop-microphones-reports-wsjDec 11 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | FBI can remotely activate Android and laptop microphones, reports WSJ | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/j2zq1 ]Dec 11 03:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891039258714112Dec 11 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz right, but if you take the facts and then jump to the farthest conclusion, assuming that tech is eager to jump in bed w/ spies.Dec 11 03:59
schestowitz__ tech is used as a jumping board for spiesDec 11 03:59
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891368566116352Dec 11 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @suprfluo that story's over a year old now, and it talks about the FBI having to implant malware to do such things.Dec 11 03:59
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891651036102656Dec 11 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz sometimes they're both, yes. Sometimes corporate spies steal trade secrets and sell them to other companies. No NSA needed.Dec 11 04:01
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891823832637442   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542891898268950528   https://twitter.com/suprfluo/status/542891979244576769Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz you seem to see these big tech companies as monolithic entities with basically malevolent intentions, and I find that tech doesDec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz the most harm and commits the most evil out of their good intentions to "make the world a better place" with #meritocracy. :/Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suprfluo: @schestowitz @jhamby yeah by installing malware, I'd suggest boarding your research from a random regurgitation by the verge.Dec 11 04:04
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/542892138166378496Dec 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm more concerned with the unintended side effects of technology than the idea that Google wants to steal all your passwords.Dec 11 04:04
schestowitz__google does not need your passwords. Straw man again.Dec 11 04:04
schestowitz__With the exception perhaps of AT&T and Microsoft, which give spies the red carpet, tech companies exploited by spiesDec 11 04:07
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/QhaBhuti/status/542894034088652800Dec 11 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QhaBhuti: @jhamby sigh! Jake your patience is legendary @schestowitzDec 11 04:15
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/explanoit/status/542896411676008448Dec 11 04:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@explanoit: @schestowitz @jhamby I said basebandDec 11 04:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/N_is_Een/status/538314267658031105   https://twitter.com/dougpete/status/538661732030627841Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@N_is_Een: All your #Firefox-keystrokes are belong to #Microsoft and possibly #NSA: http://t.co/NqaPodYiWn Et Tu, Mozilla?Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Mozilla Will Relay Firefox User Input (Even Keystrokes) to Microsoft and the NSA Through Yahoo in the US | TechrightsDec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dougpete: This article will make you think - http://t.co/gJ2GywPh7uDec 11 04:26
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/CDSRV/status/542897969004281856Dec 11 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CDSRV: @schestowitz : cool conceptDec 11 04:26
schestowitz__http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904Dec 11 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | Heavy Censorship in Pakistan Shows Why the Next Arab Spring Won't Be on Facebook | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/j047z ]Dec 11 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Iran Upholds Death Sentence for Photographer Who Insulted Prophet on Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/j3050 ]Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__http://qz.com/308023/facebook-is-making-employees-read-chinese-propaganda-to-impress-beijing/Dec 11 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Facebook is making employees read Chinese propaganda to impress Beijing – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/j3052 ]Dec 11 04:47
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schestowitz__older:Dec 11 04:47
schestowitz__http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketingDec 11 04:47
schestowitz__http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904Dec 11 04:47
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schestowitz__http://opensource.com/government/14/12/open-source-sensitive-materials-emailDec 11 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Open source email for government | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/j3067 ]Dec 11 04:51
schestowitz__No mention of encryption.Dec 11 04:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How Steam Computes Linux SalesDec 11 05:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | How Steam Computes Linux Sales | GamingOnLinuxDec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multi-Layer Support Coming To OverlayFS InDec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 3.19 http://t.co/VqCHIDLhoRDec 11 05:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Multi-Layer Support Coming To OverlayFS In Linux 3.19Dec 11 05:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test theirDec 11 05:09
TweetTuxMachines                 mettle http://t.co/aUNh8OsOzPDec 11 05:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their mettle | InfoWorldDec 11 05:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test theirDec 11 05:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: 6 business-class Chromebooks test their mettle | Tux MachinesDec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 21 http://t.co/zq054onRjcDec 11 05:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 | Tux MachinesDec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/8nLFJVZVDDDec 11 05:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesDec 11 05:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/r5NrjGpDr6Dec 11 06:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesDec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/MmFqcBxIg3Dec 11 06:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesDec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 11/12/2014: systemd 218, Empire Total WarDec 11 06:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oPeGEhJjUK (techrights.org)Dec 11 06:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/12/2014: systemd 218, Empire Total War | TechrightsDec 11 06:50
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neobiihowdy, does anyone know a channel where they talk about business law?Dec 11 07:18
msb_neobii: do an advanced google search for        search irc channelsDec 11 07:23
msb_neobii: you get several irc search sitesDec 11 07:23
neobiiwell I did "contract law" freenode and it brought me here and #techbytesDec 11 07:24
msb_I just typed   /join #law    to freenode and got a channel ##law with 53 people in itDec 11 07:28
msb_neobii: so ask in ##law about contract lawDec 11 07:31
msb_Google is your friend, except when it reports you to the NSA.Dec 11 07:31
neobiiah, yeah sometimes my queries are too specific hahaDec 11 07:33
msb_In the 1980s I was doing programming for the AIDS Clinic of San Francisco General Hospital.  I had to give a talk on database usage for the staff, but I couldn't use the word "query" because the gay men might be insulted!Dec 11 07:37
MinceRlolDec 11 07:40
msb_It was a great place to work, until I found out that an AIDS patient was using my computer when I wasn't there.  That was before it was learned that HIV isn't contagious by touch.  I, uh, buggered off.Dec 11 07:42
MinceR:>Dec 11 07:44
msb_They had a great RDBMS on their IBM-PCs.  I think it was ported from Unix.  Can't remember the name now.Dec 11 07:53
msb_I think it was Informix.Dec 11 07:58
msb_I didn't tell them it was my first DBMS experience.  Just got a couple of books and read up on it.Dec 11 08:00
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5284110Dec 11 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook does not give people a voice; it uses (exploits) their voice (and name), selectively, to promote Facebook-centric agendaDec 11 10:16
schestowitz__"Promotes the agenda of corporate and government owners - Microsoft, NSA, etc. It's what Rupert Murdoch was unable to make out of MySpace."Dec 11 10:16
schestowitz__Not enough people were willing to participateDec 11 10:16
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5284111Dec 11 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Look how 'well' #facebook worked for these people http://motherboard.vice.com/read/facebook-censorship-in-pakistan-is-skyrocketing http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iran-upholds-death-sentence-photographer-who-insulted-prophet-facebook-1476904 real name policy, Zuck?Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__"Dec 11 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com | Heavy Censorship in Pakistan Shows Why the Next Arab Spring Won't Be on Facebook | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/j047z ]Dec 11 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.co.uk | Iran Upholds Death Sentence for Photographer Who Insulted Prophet on Facebook [ http://ur1.ca/j3050 ]Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__when I was using Lantern, the proxy, I saw almost as many people connecting from Pakistan as from China.Dec 11 10:18
schestowitz__I'm not sure I trust Lantern anymore. Any advice on this? LanternDec 11 10:18
schestowitz__It's best to just avoid platforms like Facebook, with or without anonymityDec 11 10:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How Linux Works Is an OS Mechanic's MainstayDec 11 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hiZYBzvnXp (www.linuxinsider.com)Dec 11 11:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | How Linux Works Is an OS Mechanic's Mainstay | Reviews | LinuxInsiderDec 11 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Was 2014 "The Year of Linux Desktop"?Dec 11 11:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/KHMNKlLygE (news.softpedia.com)Dec 11 11:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Was 2014 "The Year of Linux Desktop"? - SoftpediaDec 11 11:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop ofDec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 2014? http://t.co/bnAN16MDUg (jimlynch.com)Dec 11 11:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com | Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? – Jim LynchDec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     My Favorite Linux Applications and DesktopsDec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/n1gDrXiBJr (www.datamation.com)Dec 11 11:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops - DatamationDec 11 11:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliantDec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wnbZlPdzHQ (www.dedoimedo.com)Dec 11 11:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliantDec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop ofDec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 2014? http://t.co/oBCRtSgO71Dec 11 11:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? | Tux MachinesDec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     My Favorite Linux Applications and DesktopsDec 11 11:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Favorite Linux Applications and Desktops | Tux MachinesDec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The truth about the thick skin of a communityDec 11 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 manager http://t.co/pmltVlOrGzDec 11 11:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The truth about the thick skin of a community manager | Tux MachinesDec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Ruled 2014, Codenames, and Steam LinuxDec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Sales http://t.co/8lY8xdoNdgDec 11 11:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Ruled 2014, Codenames, and Steam Linux Sales | Tux MachinesDec 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliantDec 11 12:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn - Quite brilliant | Tux MachinesDec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gentoo mailing lists down Dec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ottXTviBZVDec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (dilfridge.blogspot.co.uk)Dec 11 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilfridge.blogspot.co.uk | the dilfridge blog: Gentoo mailing lists downDec 11 12:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy LinuxDec 11 12:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Tahr 6.0 CE  http://t.co/QADT9pgZvrDec 11 12:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy Linux Tahr 6.0 CE « Everyday Linux UserDec 11 12:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is hereDec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ttx939aVut (www.zdnet.com)  "I'veDec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines                 only started playing with Fedora"Dec 11 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is here | ZDNetDec 11 12:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 of the Best Open Source Holiday Gifts forDec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines                 SMBs http://t.co/PtIE9gx2e6Dec 11 12:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 of the Best Open Source Holiday Gifts for SMBs | Tux MachinesDec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why your organisation will thank you for goingDec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines                 open source http://t.co/kX6Jqz6ZaPDec 11 12:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why your organisation will thank you for going open source | Tux MachinesDec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going toDec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Happen. http://t.co/ntsMWl3Kz3Dec 11 12:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to Happen. | Tux MachinesDec 11 12:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An Everyday Linux User Review Of Puppy LinuxDec 11 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Tahr 6.0 CE http://t.co/qDO5kvjjGcDec 11 12:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Say hi to Linux's future: Fedora 21 is hereDec 11 12:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are AlreadyDec 11 12:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack,Dec 11 13:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are AlreadyDec 11 13:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiple http://t.co/5vV90o4wJB (www.x.org)Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerabilities Found, One Is from 1987Dec 11 13:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org | xorgDec 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Multiple X.Org Vulnerabilities Found, One Is from 1987 | Tux MachinesDec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.11 Gets Its First Upgrade Pack,Dec 11 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Manjaro 0.9.0 Already Being Worked OnDec 11 13:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MongoDB gets its first native analytics toolDec 11 13:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Users Want Windows 10 Features That Are AlreadyDec 11 14:47
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schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285453Dec 11 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft loves Linux. #gnu #linux gives Microsoft ideas... of things to copy, clone, then claim credit for.Dec 11 14:50
schestowitz_bed2"Copying is fine in the FOSS culture. The problem is that they try to promote copied ideas as "innovation". Apple does that too."Dec 11 14:50
schestowitz_bed2"But Microsoft isn't the only one who does that. Ask Apple for more information.'Dec 11 14:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cabinet office Plugfest builds momentum for ODFDec 11 15:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 KernelDec 11 15:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted AndroidDec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Device May Come Instead http://t.co/JMCrEVogmmDec 11 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-basedDec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux machines using SystembackDec 11 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Go 1.4 is released http://t.co/hWmQ1St9iBDec 11 15:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go 1.4 is released | Tux MachinesDec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     VirtIO & Xen Changes For Linux 3.19 KernelDec 11 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted AndroidDec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Device May Come Instead http://t.co/H71ZvOx8S1Dec 11 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Create a live system ISO for your Ubuntu-basedDec 11 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OPNFV Adds New Members to Open Source SDN/NFVDec 11 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Project http://t.co/KBskUDprAADec 11 15:44
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schestowitz_bed2"In 2013, "There were two mass appeals against Investigation Guidelines Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2(Circular 341, 342). One mass appeal with 89 appellants, the second with 61."Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2<a href="https://www.epo.org/modules/epoweb/acdocument/epoweb2/133/en/CA-55-14_en.pdf"></a>Dec 11 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.epo.org/modules/epoweb/acdocument/epoweb2/133/en/CA-55-14_en.pdf"></a )Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2aka "Microsoft Word ec14055.docx" which means Microsoft has an inside track on Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2all of this.Dec 11 15:51
schestowitz_bed2> Dec 11 16:22
schestowitz_bed2> Just to let you know that we enjoyed the series so far and are lookingDec 11 16:22
schestowitz_bed2> forward to the continuation.Dec 11 16:22
schestowitz_bed2> We attach a copy of the letter in French.Dec 11 16:24
schestowitz_bed2> Unfortunately we don't have a translation available at the moment.Dec 11 16:24
schestowitz_bed2me:Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2There are enough weekly posts drafted to last until Christmas. Slow but persistent, I think, is what will help shake up perceptions and cause public opinion to shift.Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2Any other documents you can send and won't cause trouble if published help saturate the search engines with relevant names, places, and expose the reader to some contextual scandals.Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2With series like these, which do not directly target the regular readers (subscribers, mostly FOSS proponents in our case), the "premium" target is people who are involved and mentioned in the scandals or their colleagues/partners.Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2Vestna Stilin wrote a response to an article from the Zurich folks. I was curious about that article. My wife and I then checked her name and Google. Results #1 was -- you've guessed it -- IPWatch and the article about her fight with Topic. Not quite the clients magnet, is it...?Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2Either way, I can assure you I'll make available online what need to be online and won't divulge identities. I never did, in all the past leaks in the site.Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2"Dec 11 16:27
schestowitz_bed2http://techrights.org/2014/12/11/france-vs-battistelli/Dec 11 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | France Gets Involved in Battistelli’s Abuses in the EPO – Part XII | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j36bx ]Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz_bed2Could you help by providing an English translation of the letter in French?Dec 11 16:34
schestowitz_bed2http://techrights.org/2014/12/11/epo-staff-backlash/ (Rolling of Heads Likely Imminent at EPO)Dec 11 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Rolling of Heads Likely Imminent at EPO | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j36cd ]Dec 11 16:35
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285379Dec 11 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I'd hate to link to Dietrich, but this response to #Turla is right on point http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2014/12/linux-turla-malware-infection-not-going.htmlDec 11 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxadvocates.com | Linux Turla Malware Infection? Not Going to Happen. ~ Linux Advocates [ http://ur1.ca/j36p3 ]Dec 11 17:18
schestowitz_bed2"I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day."Dec 11 17:18
schestowitz_bed2LOLDec 11 17:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now AvailableDec 11 18:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now Available | Tux MachinesDec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effortDec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines                 AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100Dec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines                 companies http://t.co/4FoZ7jsPAoDec 11 18:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effort AllSeen Alliance grows to more than 100 companies | Tux MachinesDec 11 18:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug FixesDec 11 18:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug Fixes | Tux MachinesDec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Joyent Offers Linux Branded Zones, ExtendsDec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Docker Engine as Container ServiceDec 11 18:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Joyent Offers Linux Branded Zones, Extends Docker Engine as Container Service | Tux MachinesDec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Second Beta for LibreOffice 4.4 Is Now ReadyDec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines                 for Testing http://t.co/LTkYIQAoRhDec 11 18:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Second Beta for LibreOffice 4.4 Is Now Ready for Testing | Tux MachinesDec 11 18:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Trine Enchanted Edition For Linux ReleasedDec 11 18:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Trine Enchanted Edition For Linux Released | GamingOnLinuxDec 11 18:26
schestowitz_bed2https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110168989683712    https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543109406255497216Dec 11 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Cracking down on the #internet is always about pedophiles, terrorists, and "pirates" http:// (...) http://t.co/aViDG8ejhfDec 11 18:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Evo Morales Slams Richest Countries over Global Warming http://t.co/1YAMKx0iTJ good leader. #moralesDec 11 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> telesurtv.net | Evo Morales Slams Richest Countries over Global Warming | News | teleSURDec 11 18:30
schestowitz_bed2https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110526956736512Dec 11 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: #amazon has just gotten even more evil https://t.co/z2ykYe5wiZ a friend of mine resigned last week. http://t.co/GdUHJdw1zPDec 11 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> soylentnews.org | SCOTUS Finds in Favor of Amazon, No Pay for Mandatory Security Screenings - SoylentNewsDec 11 18:30
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schestowitz_bed2https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543110640836280321Dec 11 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Trine Enchanted Edition For #Linux Released http://t.co/cyDPuYXqLh #gamesDec 11 18:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings MixedDec 11 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Results For Linux Users http://t.co/vfdysHG8Z4Dec 11 19:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings Mixed Results For Linux UsersDec 11 19:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug FixesDec 11 19:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] EXT4 In Linux 3.19 Brings Lots Of Bug FixesDec 11 19:08
schestowitz_bed2https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/543119617636696065Dec 11 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: #gnu #linux more prominent in the #games world now http://t.co/5MMwweyTgUDec 11 19:10
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schestowitz_bed2hi GinghamPenguinDec 11 19:10
GinghamPenguinHelloDec 11 19:10
schestowitz_bed2new here, so I thought I'd say hiDec 11 19:15
msb_GinghamPenguin: What kind of Linux are you using?Dec 11 19:16
GinghamPenguinI'm new as well. I've got crunchbang on my laptop. Dec 11 19:17
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msb_Streamlined, efficient -- looks good!Dec 11 19:19
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GinghamPenguinmsb_: I haven't settled on a long term distro yet. I've been hopping and tweaking for way too long. I come back to crunchbang in between sessionsDec 11 19:20
GinghamPenguinIt's my home baseDec 11 19:21
msb_I just stay with OpenSuse.  Once I got all my weird hardware and zillions of scripts running I just let it stay.Dec 11 19:22
schestowitz__debian based...Dec 11 19:22
schestowitz__#!Dec 11 19:22
msb_Does crunchbang use systemd?  That's the big controversy these days.Dec 11 19:22
GinghamPenguinThat's a can of worms right there. I've seen some HEATED systemd vs init argumentsDec 11 19:24
GinghamPenguinIt's never prettyDec 11 19:24
msb_I'm solidly anti.  Violates too many foundational Unix principles.Dec 11 19:25
GinghamPenguinI understand that. I also know that most new linux users don't know enough to care.Dec 11 19:27
msb_I just found a shim that emulates pulseaudio from alsa.  Allows skype to run.Dec 11 19:28
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285620Dec 11 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fox 'news' taunts people who speak out against #police #racism http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/12/10/foxs-rivera-lebron-james-should-wear-be-a-bette/201842 #nypd #EricGarnerDec 11 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org | Fox's Rivera: LeBron James Should Wear "Be A Better Father" Shirt Instead Of "I Can't Breathe" | Video | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/j3811 ]Dec 11 19:29
schestowitz__"Lebron James could definitely learn lessons about fatherhood from a man whose own son is ashamed of him. Definitely and absolutely."Dec 11 19:29
schestowitz__"When the Wall Street people responsible of the mortgage fraud and the US government people responsible of torture are thrown in a dungeon forever, I might hear why selling cigarettes in the street deserves to be killed for."Dec 11 19:29
msb_I think that's the way.  People are working on various shims to enable systemd-requiring apps to run with sysvinit systems.Dec 11 19:29
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5285225Dec 11 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/is-linux-mint-17-1-really-the-best-desktop-of-2014/ #gnu #linux #linuxmint #fedoraDec 11 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com | Is Linux Mint 17.1 really the best desktop of 2014? – Jim LynchDec 11 19:30
schestowitz__"Yes, I've followed your reporting on that very closely. Thank you for writing about it."Dec 11 19:30
msb_Some cigarettes sold on the street are very beneficial.Dec 11 19:31
GinghamPenguinAs a linux tinkerer, I don't have much of a horse in the systemd debate. I understand the concerns, but am mostly watching from the sidelines.Dec 11 19:32
msb_I think the vastly increased communication ability of the Net will eventually bring the end of all this tyranny.Dec 11 19:32
msb_GinghamPenguin: Likewise here.Dec 11 19:32
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5287004Dec 11 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa uses #fedora and senior Fedora staff told me NSA passes to them patches to put in #linux (which I'm not sure is a good thing at all)Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__"source?"Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__"yeah, gonna need some source on that,Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__"Dec 11 19:33
msb_But at least I'm learning how Linux boots up, which I didn't know before.Dec 11 19:33
GinghamPenguinYup! It's good stuff to learnDec 11 19:33
schestowitz__"also something to note, RHEL is used by the US military, so i wouldnt be surprised if fedora was used for things to, and other us agencies had their hands in it"Dec 11 19:33
schestowitz__Red Hat makes systemdDec 11 19:34
msb_My version is still sysvinit, which is another good reason for not upgrading, so I can learn from it.Dec 11 19:34
schestowitz__Fedora is used by NSA for some data collection (wireless), based on Snowden leaks. Fedora staff told me about NSA role by E-mail.Dec 11 19:35
msb_schestowitz__: yes, that's the theory on at least one of the anti-systemd sites -- US fascist govt is using systemd to infiltrate (or adopt, control and extinguish) Linux.Dec 11 19:37
msb_And it's doing it through RedHat.Dec 11 19:37
GinghamPenguinI wonder if they use it because it works (and not for nefarious reasons)Dec 11 19:37
msb_But they all work -- Suse, Debian, ...Dec 11 19:38
GinghamPenguinOf course. But the NSA is going to have to use _something_. Dec 11 19:39
msb_But I guess RedHat was the first big famous one, so maybe that's what the govt started with.Dec 11 19:39
GinghamPenguinNo matter what they choose, someone is going to be suspicious.Dec 11 19:39
GinghamPenguinAnd RedHat provides support, which makes sense.Dec 11 19:40
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msb_But it just so happens that Poettering works for RedHat.Dec 11 19:41
msb_And he also wrote pulseaudio, and when MDec 11 19:42
msb_when MS ate skype, it forced Linux users to use pulseaudio.Dec 11 19:42
GinghamPenguinI dropped skype when that happened :(Dec 11 19:43
msb_In any effort to sabotage Linux, Microsoft is going to be in there somewhere.Dec 11 19:43
msb_I have a few friends that I can't get to use Linux.Dec 11 19:44
GinghamPenguinI have to use Windows for work (and for wife).Dec 11 19:44
msb_I like IHU for VOIP.  it's very easy to get going, but Linux only.Dec 11 19:45
GinghamPenguinI haven't tried it. See, I came in here for a reason. I'll check it out.Dec 11 19:45
GinghamPenguinThe techrights page is really rough on mobile.Dec 11 19:46
msb_http://ihu.sourceforge.net/Dec 11 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net | I Hear U (IHU) Project HomepageDec 11 19:46
msb_For ihu, the i386 binary linked with static libs version works with old and current Suse, but only 32bit.  For 64bit, hopefully compiling it from source will work.Dec 11 19:49
GinghamPenguinI will have to compile from source, then. It'll give me something to do this weekend. AfkDec 11 19:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation IoT standardisation effortDec 11 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta Now AvailableDec 11 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Driver Brings MixedDec 11 20:01
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schestowitz__>>> >> " you cannot decide to not charge Google News. It isDec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>>> >> compulsory. More than a right it is an obligation"Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>>> >> Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>>> >> http://searchengineland.com/spain-ready-enact-google-tax-forcing-company-pay-content-links-198171Dec 11 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchengineland.com | Spanish Law To Force Google To Index And Pay For Local News [ http://ur1.ca/j392a ]Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>>> >> Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>>> >> No opt-out for the magazines and newspapers, etc.Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>> > Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>> > I support Google's exit from the market or removal of sites thatDec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>> > complain. If they don't want it, then fine. If they want it, say thankDec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>> > you to Google and stop bitching about having a broken business model.Dec 11 21:34
schestowitz__>> > Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__>> > Google does some bad things; this isn't one of them.Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__> Agreed. The Spanish government is out of touch with reality on this one.Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__>  If they decide the case also applies to regular searches then it willDec 11 21:35
schestowitz__> be really crazy.Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__That would potentially be a next step. There's little difference between the two except age of results.Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5286919Dec 11 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Creative writing teacher resigns after student writes about Jesus, pot http://www.koat.com/news/creative-writing-teacher-resigns-after-student-writes-about-jesus-pot/30128384 "Jesus handing out marijuana to the sick."Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__"I want to read it. the kid should be earning on that copyright"Dec 11 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.koat.com | Creative writing teacher resigns after student writes about Jesus, pot | New Mexico News - KOAT Home [ http://ur1.ca/j383e ]Dec 11 21:35
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5287622Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "America can be a brutal superpower, especially when -- as rarely happens -- it is attacked." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/torture-report-mccain_n_6300730.html even pro-activelyDec 11 21:36
schestowitz__"Can be? Interesting. I didn't know it ever took a break. Pretty sure every living elected president, and GW Bush, could be tried and hanged at the Hague. Except maybe Carter(?)."Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com | Planet Politics: America's Bloody Conscience [ http://ur1.ca/j392o ]Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5287342Dec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "13 alleged militants"..."allegedly involved" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/us-drone-strikes-pakistan-afghanistan-kill-13-militants this is not accurate and it's mass #assassinationDec 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | US drone strikes kill 13 alleged militants in Pakistan and Afghanistan | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/j392s ]Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__""13 alleged militants"..."allegedly involved" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/us-drone-strikes-pakistan-afghanistan-kill-13-militants this is not accurate and it's mass #assassination"Dec 11 21:36
schestowitz__Nope, years ago I read it's over 16... recently 14 or 15Dec 11 21:37
schestowitz__"Remember, any male aged 18 or over is considered a militant now."Dec 11 21:37
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5286880Dec 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: More "more attacks on privacy under this rubric" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30426164 always "for the children", like #uk #censorship filtersDec 11 21:37
schestowitz__"Hard to argue against child protection, so dark net no more for anyone else"Dec 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - GCHQ to help tackle 'dark net' child abuse imagesDec 11 21:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SOS Open Source is Now Open Source!Dec 11 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SOS Open Source is Now Open Source! | Tux MachinesDec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 KernelDec 11 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Many Sound Updates Queued For Linux 3.19 Kernel | Tux MachinesDec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Tizen Development Tools Version 14.03.1Dec 11 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Released http://t.co/KvIwhBWgXsDec 11 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | [Announcement] New Tizen Development Tools Version 14.03.1 Released - Tizen ExpertsDec 11 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Our approach to software and ongoing supportDec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 for the first FairphonesDec 11 22:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fairphone.com | Our approach to software and ongoing support for the first Fairphones | FairphoneDec 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five open source PaaS options you should knowDec 11 22:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry PiDec 11 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry Pi | Tux MachinesDec 11 22:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Our approach to software and ongoing supportDec 11 22:33
TweetTuxMachines                 for the first Fairphones http://t.co/q0A91j4ZCyDec 11 22:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Our approach to software and ongoing support for the first Fairphones | Tux MachinesDec 11 22:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hackable Roomba integrates Raspberry PiDec 11 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ddC4yUnAfz (linuxgizmos.com)Dec 11 23:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud ServerDec 12 00:51
TweetTuxMachines                 release http://t.co/Dnf8ndPtjS (www.zdnet.com)Dec 12 00:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Parallels adopts Docker in next Cloud Server release | ZDNetDec 12 00:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 11/12/2014: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1Dec 12 00:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Beta, Firefox 35 Plans http://t.co/wLspRUaO5bDec 12 00:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/12/2014: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.1 Beta, Firefox 35 Plans | TechrightsDec 12 00:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five open source PaaS options you should knowDec 12 00:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/cIER34FKmmDec 12 03:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/bSw9ClxMDmDec 12 03:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google releases Cardboard VR viewer specs andDec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 SDKs http://t.co/3yoD3U7yEg (linuxgizmos.com)Dec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 good use of super high-res phone displays,Dec 12 09:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sharing with Qt on AndroidDec 12 09:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calligra.org | Sharing with Qt on Android | Calligra SuiteDec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's AnemicDec 12 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wsOBolteEC (www.linuxinsider.com)Dec 12 09:10
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TweetTuxMachines                 Firefox http://t.co/rmxcL5rkyy (threatpost.com)Dec 12 09:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Best Terminal Emulators for LinuxDec 12 09:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft WillDec 12 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Show Up Next Year http://t.co/rfdqhms0lKDec 12 09:42
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roy_"I would also like to stress that the socialist Deputy Leborgn (for the French citizens living abroad) already was in touch with various Ministers (including foreign affairs : Fabius, Industry : Pellerin, economy : Moscovici) in April this year. However, he was told in substance "before Mr. B. there was no legal system framing the right to strike so that it should be regarded as a progress. Presented with the fact that the new strike law was Dec 12 10:29
roy_below French standard, the deputy was answered that the EPO is made of 38 countries so that compromises should be made. For the record, Fabius, Moscovici, Pellerin and now Marcon all come from the same school as Mr B: that is the ENA (Ecole Nationale d'Administration). ENA's alumni is one of the most powerful French networks, may be even more powerful than freemasonry"Dec 12 10:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MLinux Is So Lightweight It's AnemicDec 12 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat 7.1 Beta, Malware History, and BugDec 12 10:35
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5289577Dec 12 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft Will Show Up Next Year http://uk.businessinsider.com/hp-will-show-off-new-linux-os-in-2015-2014-12?r=US #hp #microsoft #linuxplusplus #linuxDec 12 10:37
roy_"Looks promising but then again talk is cheap."Dec 12 10:37
roy_HP promised Linux OSes before but later abandoned/sold those and started attacking Linux with Microsoft (.e.g. in Munich)Dec 12 10:38
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roy_The light shades arrived on time and in good conditions. Would recommend!Dec 12 12:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Best Terminal Emulators for LinuxDec 12 14:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP's Big Slap-In-The-Face To Microsoft WillDec 12 14:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     European Commission updates its open sourceDec 12 14:01
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MinceRhttp://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SystemdCrashAndMoreDec 12 16:23
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MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4q0lPrIAAAZlh5.jpgDec 12 17:23
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5289717Dec 12 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/543173859055124482Dec 12 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mattdpearce: Can we talk about how crazy this photo is? http://t.co/TWOolhyf6CDec 12 18:45
roy_"Die Chancen stehen ganz gut, dass es da bald nochmal so richtig knallen wird !"Dec 12 18:45
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roy_https://twitter.com/SimonRWaters/status/543481452328144898Dec 12 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SimonRWaters: @schestowitz "Though a suspect has the right to remain silent during an arrest and not give their password" http://t.co/Hxc3vkdZe6Dec 12 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> globalnews.ca | What rules must police follow to search a cellphone during arrest? - National | Globalnews.caDec 12 19:13
roy_I linked to the ruling the other day and spotted a contradicting. Not many people encrypt their phones.Dec 12 19:14
DaemonFChttp://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/scott_lively.htmlDec 12 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.masslive.com | Anti-gay activist Scott Lively's crimes-against-humanity case to proceed after federal court denies his petition to dismiss lawsuit | masslive.com [ http://ur1.ca/j3hd7 ]Dec 12 19:15
roy_https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/543484162527997952Dec 12 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz The systemd matter is a subject for another day.Dec 12 19:17
DaemonFCroy_: I'm on an old XP machine right now.Dec 12 19:18
roy_I hardly take sides in it (undecided or apathetic), but it's no longer just an init systemDec 12 19:18
DaemonFCIt's the only computer I have that works. I tried updating my EFI BIOS on the new computer the other day and it bricked the motherboard instead.Dec 12 19:18
MinceRthat's efi for youDec 12 19:18
roy_DaemonFC: XP is good... for botnetsDec 12 19:18
DaemonFCI ordered a new motherboard off of Newegg and I'll be doing a transplant of everything else.Dec 12 19:18
DaemonFCMinceR: The new motherboard was only $40 after rebate, and it has dual BIOS on it.Dec 12 19:19
MinceRbellwether? more like poison in the water supplyDec 12 19:19
DaemonFCTwo BIOS chips. One is flashable, and the other is an emergency.Dec 12 19:19
MinceRsystemd is the cancer that's killing gnu/linuxDec 12 19:19
MinceRDaemonFC: did that help?Dec 12 19:20
MinceRoh, new motherboard, after the old one got brickedDec 12 19:20
DaemonFCIf you do a bad update of the main BIOS, the backup BIOS boots the PC into a recovery mode, and can recover the main BIOS. If the main BIOS is permanently damaged, the backup BIOS can take over permanently.Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFCYeah.Dec 12 19:20
MinceRniceDec 12 19:20
DaemonFCStupid Acer crap. I'm digging a standard ATX power supply out of another computer.Dec 12 19:20
DaemonFCI upgraded that one back in late 2012 to upgrade the GPU. It stopped booting several months ago, but I know the power supply is good.Dec 12 19:21
DaemonFCThe one that came with the Acer is proprietary. Dec 12 19:21
DaemonFCI left a few nasty posts on their Facebook wall.Dec 12 19:21
DaemonFCI called their engineers idiots that shouldn't have been allowed to graduate from kindergarten.Dec 12 19:22
DaemonFCAnd that this would be my first and last computer from them.Dec 12 19:22
DaemonFCroy_: Windows XP is the only thing this old computer can really run.Dec 12 19:25
DaemonFCThe integrated graphics were never properly supported in Linux, and then the driver got yanked completely from every(?) major distribution.Dec 12 19:25
DaemonFCI used the registry setting to get the post-April security fixes from Microsoft. The ones intended for WEPOS.Dec 12 19:26
DaemonFCThere's about two dozen of them so far. Dec 12 19:26
DaemonFCWith the hack, you keep getting security patches for XP until April 2019.Dec 12 19:26
DaemonFCSo Microsoft continues to research and patch XP vulnerabilities. They just won't let the general public have them. Which is bad, because every month there are another 5-6 vulnerabilities that become public knowledge, with no official update for XP.Dec 12 19:29
DaemonFCJust because there's no update doesn't mean that people will stop using XP, and those machines will still have broadband internet access. :PDec 12 19:29
DaemonFCThere are still people using Windows 9x/Me, and those haven't been supported at all for 8 years.Dec 12 19:30
DaemonFCMost stat counters put Windows 9x/Me combines at about 1%. 1% of all the PCs on Earth is still quite a few systems.Dec 12 19:30
DaemonFCIt would be foolish to suspect that XP will go away anytime soon. Microsoft is largely to blame. They kept letting OEMs license it through 2010, knowing that it would be out of support in under 4 years, so there are still some systems that came with it that aren't exactly ancient.Dec 12 19:32
DaemonFCI think it speaks volumes about just how bad Windows security is. Going on 15, and still getting 4-5 security patches every month? That's crazy. You'd expect the pace to slow down at some point, but apparently there's just no end to the vulnerabilities.Dec 12 19:37
DaemonFCXP is going on 15, that is.Dec 12 19:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IT should listen to users not just managers,Dec 12 19:38
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DaemonFCWindows Security Essentials still works on XP, but it nags you every day that XP is no longer supported. To make that shut up, I uninstalled it and installed Bitdefender Free.Dec 12 19:40
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roy_http://www.computerworld.com/article/2475620/vertical-it/nsa-flashes-bios-for-60-minutes--the-plot-thickens-.htmlDec 12 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | NSA flashes BIOS for 60 Minutes (the plot thickens) | Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/j3i7w ]Dec 12 20:39
roy_" Dr. Roy Schestowitz foresaw the terminals illness: "Dec 12 20:39
roy_https://twitter.com/gordonbp/status/543506846452314112Dec 12 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gordonbp: @schestowitz apparently it was a power cut, not a computer crash...Dec 12 20:48
roy_Yes, the Windows systems failed to recoverDec 12 20:48
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roy_wb, jgayDec 12 20:54
roy_jono_ I meanDec 12 20:54
jgayno welcomes for meDec 12 20:56
roy_always welcome! But jono_ has been absent for months :-)Dec 12 20:56
jgayhello jono_, congrats on the new job by the way!Dec 12 20:56
jono_hey roy_Dec 12 20:56
jono_thanks everyoneDec 12 20:56
jono_let me join in my normal client :-)Dec 12 20:57
jono_one secDec 12 20:57
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jonothat's better :-)Dec 12 20:57
roy_jono_: my wife asked last night why there's no word of you on the web anymore and I said you had moved to a non-FOSS companyDec 12 20:57
roy_jono: we've put some major gov clients on ubuntuDec 12 20:58
roy_inc FSA, london gov etc.Dec 12 20:58
jonoroy_ yeah I have been putting much of the key bits in place at XPRIZEDec 12 20:58
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jonoXPRIZE is a way different organization to CanonicalDec 12 20:58
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jononot really an IT company, but with an awesome grand mission :-)Dec 12 20:58
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jonoso I have been heads down getting some core bits sortedDec 12 20:58
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jonowe are going to make the future a better place :-)Dec 12 20:59
MinceRwelcome, jgay Dec 12 20:59
jonoand open source and free software will be a key part of this :-)Dec 12 20:59
*roy_ reads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Prize_FoundationDec 12 20:59
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roy_I know it because of the founderDec 12 20:59
jonocoolDec 12 21:00
jonowe have a ways to go, but lots of cool opportunity aheadDec 12 21:00
jonoroy_ did you see the Global Learning XPRIZE ?Dec 12 21:00
roy_jono: have you met Elon Musk in person?Dec 12 21:00
jonoroy_ not in person, noDec 12 21:01
roy_jono: the Gates connection won't impress meDec 12 21:01
roy_there was some of that with Danese CooperDec 12 21:01
jonowell, Bill Gates at Gates Foundation and Bill Gates at MS are two quite different beasts from what I can tellDec 12 21:02
roy_Earlier today I saw an articles linked to from opensource.com that openwashed GatesDec 12 21:02
roy_the same guy who started the anti-FOSS movementDec 12 21:02
jonopeople change, RoyDec 12 21:02
roy_not himDec 12 21:02
jonoI dunno about you, but I was very different 15 years ago tooDec 12 21:02
roy_he still attacks FOSSDec 12 21:02
jonoI think he hasDec 12 21:02
roy_unless he profits from itDec 12 21:02
jonono he doesn'tDec 12 21:02
jonoand to be fair, it wasn't him, it was BallmerDec 12 21:03
roy_he profits a lot from what he does notrDec 12 21:03
roy_which is not givingDec 12 21:03
jonohe was the architect of anti-LinuxDec 12 21:03
jonoGates was just wanted to build cool tech at MSDec 12 21:03
roy_he gets about 5-10 percent richer each yearDec 12 21:03
roy_PR, deception, media controlDec 12 21:03
jonoand the gates foundation are doing really valuable workDec 12 21:03
jonoanyway, I don't have much time to debateDec 12 21:03
jonojust wanted to say hi :-)Dec 12 21:03
roy_okDec 12 21:03
roy_npDec 12 21:03
cubexyzgiving antix 13.2 luddite a goDec 12 21:04
roy_what hardware?Dec 12 21:04
cubexyzjust a p3 :)Dec 12 21:04
roy_wowDec 12 21:04
roy_you can probably buy loads by the piundDec 12 21:05
roy_*poundDec 12 21:05
roy_maybe 20 dollars per boxDec 12 21:05
cubexyzcomes with ice weasel 22Dec 12 21:05
jgayjono, does xprize have any plans to do something (maybe even somethign community based) similar to what the knight foundation does with the "news challenges" program? Dec 12 21:06
jgayI really like their sequence that entrants go through: "inspiration", "submissions", "feedback", "refinement", "evaluation", "winners"Dec 12 21:06
cubexyz3.7.10 kernel, seems pretty recentDec 12 21:08
jgayand I wondered if ther emight be a way to sort of decentralize that process ... or bake it into a plaftorm that people can use and make their own Dec 12 21:08
cubexyzit's pretty fast too, the live cd comes with icewmDec 12 21:08
jgayjono, anyhow, maybe I should formulate my thoughts more coherently in a blog post or something. If you don't knwo what I'm even talking about check it out, https://newschallenge.org/challenge/libraries/refinementDec 12 21:08
cubexyzI'm liking it so farDec 12 21:09
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roy_icewm is quite ok for its sizeDec 12 21:09
roy_I used it for a while recentlyDec 12 21:09
roy_and openbox, lxde, e17Dec 12 21:09
roy_twm is the worstDec 12 21:09
jonojgay, news challenges?Dec 12 21:10
jgayjono, https://newschallenge.org/faqDec 12 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newschallenge.org | News Challenge - How It WorksDec 12 21:10
jonojgay, will check it out in a sec, thanks!Dec 12 21:10
MinceR220317 < jono> Gates was just wanted to build cool tech at MSDec 12 21:11
MinceRin that case, he failed.Dec 12 21:11
MinceRhard.Dec 12 21:11
MinceRand i'm sure the work of the gates foundation is really valuable to microsoftDec 12 21:12
cubexyzit's about control of the desktopsDec 12 21:12
cubexyzwhich is slipping finallyDec 12 21:13
MinceRwhich might be why poettering & co. decided to destroy gnu/linux just nowDec 12 21:14
cubexyzno systemd in antix :)Dec 12 21:14
cubexyzit just how things evolveDec 12 21:18
cubexyzonce I was a staunch user of Fedora...Dec 12 21:19
cubexyznow I'm a slackware adherentDec 12 21:19
MinceRi'm getting tired of hopping distros to dodge the stupidDec 12 21:19
MinceRhopefully bedrock will fix that for meDec 12 21:19
cubexyzslackware and derivativesDec 12 21:19
cubexyzMincerDistro :)Dec 12 21:20
MinceRalso, it's sad that sjvn became a systemd shillDec 12 21:25
cubexyzreally? hmmmDec 12 21:25
MinceRhttp://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/Dec 12 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Linus Torvalds and others on Linux's systemd | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/j3ip3 ]Dec 12 21:25
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5291861Dec 12 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the #mpaa is allowed to get away with domain #censorship it might not be long before sites get forced offline for allegation of image (c)Dec 12 21:38
roy_"for the past three years I keep talking we need comunication infrastructure independent of state or corporate ownership."Dec 12 21:38
roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5292158Dec 12 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #london a #drone just came 6 meters short of hitting a plane in #heathrow (IIRC). But let's strip everyone naked in airport scans...Dec 12 21:39
roy_"How often does that happen?"Dec 12 21:39
roy_I heard about it happening in the US quite a few times, but today I heard about London...Dec 12 21:39
MinceRobviously we need to paint drones with texts saying "allahu akbar" and drive them into planes. :>Dec 12 21:39
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msb_MinceR: sjvn's article on systemd does not make him a shill for it at all.  Dec 12 23:05
MinceRto me, it read as it was written from the perspective of someone who totally bought into systemd and has no understanding why anyone would want to avoid itDec 12 23:06
msb_He describes the problems with it, has Torvalds' and Tso's comments, and wants devs to create an alternative.Dec 12 23:06
msb_Are we reading the same article?Dec 12 23:07
MinceRi read the article i linked.Dec 12 23:07
msb_http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/Dec 12 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Linus Torvalds and others on Linux's systemd | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/j3ip3 ]Dec 12 23:07
MinceRand there already are alternatives, including sysvinit.Dec 12 23:07
msb_"If systemd really does turn out to be as bad as some developers fear, there are plenty of replacements waiting in the wings. Indeed, rather than hear so much about how awful systemd is, I'd rather see developers spending their time working on an alternative."Dec 12 23:08
msb_He doesn't say OMG the sky is falling, but does cover the territory, and the diagram at the beginning shows how much systemd has taken over.Dec 12 23:09
msb_I sure wish Linus would come out against it, though.Dec 12 23:11
MinceRhe's pretending sysvinit doesn't existDec 12 23:11
MinceRyeah, right now it looks like Linus will let them soil the kernel with crap such as kdbus.Dec 12 23:11
msb_yepDec 12 23:11
MinceRpretending sysvinit doesn't exist is a tired poetteringite tactic.Dec 12 23:12
msb_Well, they say it has problems -- I don't know what.Dec 12 23:12
MinceR"to replace systemd, you'd have to develop something totally new, you can't live without systemd now!"Dec 12 23:12
cubexyzheh, I run some pre-sysvinit stuffDec 12 23:12
MinceRyes, it has the problems of being interchangeable with other init systems and not being controlled by the poettering cultDec 12 23:13
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MinceRapplications won't mind if you're running sysvinit, bsd init, runit, sinit or whateverDec 12 23:13
MinceRbut they're trying to move us to a world where everything depends on systemd or is part of systemdDec 12 23:13
MinceRtry to switch init systems thenDec 12 23:13
msb_People should start using "poettering" as a verb, meaning invading and sabotaging.Dec 12 23:14
MinceR:>Dec 12 23:14
MinceRor just "poetter", "poettering" being the infinitiveDec 12 23:14
msb_yesDec 12 23:15
roy_lolDec 12 23:15
roy_I forgot to mention that our new neighbours are actually quite jolly and awesome. They're quiet, polite, and we're already receiving good quality Christmas card from many of them, even those across the road and several houses down the road. Some know our names somehow.Dec 12 23:15
MinceRcreepy :>Dec 12 23:15
msb_Where are you living?Dec 12 23:16
cubexyzit's kind of plain but it's fast:Dec 12 23:16
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/antix-desktop.jpgDec 12 23:16
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msb_cubexyz: can it have 20 virtual desktops with names in the switcher applet?Dec 12 23:20
cubexyzicewm defaults to 4 virtual desktopsDec 12 23:20
cubexyzI don't know enough about icewm to say, but I don't see why notDec 12 23:21
msb_With the windows in each desktop persistent across reboots?  That's a hard requirement for me.  Makes life much easier.Dec 12 23:22
MinceRmsb_: if nothing else, you could use fvwm and hack one of the pagers if necessary :>Dec 12 23:22
msb_As long as I have a hard drive and not an SSD, KDE3 or Trinity is fine.Dec 12 23:23
MinceRwhy not an SSD?Dec 12 23:23
msb_Space is more expensive.Dec 12 23:23
cubexyzI like minimalist low-memory systemsDec 12 23:24
roy_msb_: manchesterDec 12 23:24
cubexyzbut I know that's not everyone's cup of teaDec 12 23:24
msb_I want a real keyboard, and a pretty big screen, so laptop is as small as I want to go.Dec 12 23:24
msb_Unless the Apocalypse comes, fries all the electronics, and we have to make our own chips, I don't find any need for minimalist.Dec 12 23:26
cubexyzthe reasoning for it is simple: less pollutionDec 12 23:26
msb_What kind of pollution?Dec 12 23:26
MinceRdon't old computers use more power? :>Dec 12 23:26
cubexyzno, that's a mythDec 12 23:26
cubexyzdepends on which cpuDec 12 23:26
cubexyzcoppermine p3's were fairly power efficientDec 12 23:27
cubexyzmsb_, obviously pollution caused by chip fabricationDec 12 23:28
cubexyze.g. trichloroethyleneDec 12 23:28
cubexyzof course, the power use could be offset by solar panels or whatever, it's not too criticalDec 12 23:29
cubexyznow PDP-11's were a different storyDec 12 23:29
cubexyzI'd never say use a PDP-11 as your main computer :)Dec 12 23:30
msb_I just read that Germany sometimes gets half its power from solar -- IIRC -- I can't find the email.Dec 12 23:30
cubexyzbasically my philosophy is to fix computers and keep them working as long as possibleDec 12 23:30
cubexyzLCD's are quite repairableDec 12 23:30
msb_And solar cell efficiency has just reached 40%, and that's with cells that can use concentrated light.Dec 12 23:31
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cubexyzsome old computers didn't use plastic for the caseDec 12 23:32
cubexyzbut that's rareDec 12 23:32
msb_My computer is a dual-core AMD with 8GB, and it can play HEVC/x265 videos, so I have no need to upgrade.Dec 12 23:32
cubexyzslot 1 also had some of the best heat dissipationDec 12 23:33
cubexyztech as regressed in that regardDec 12 23:33
cubexyzI see laptops with heat damage all the timeDec 12 23:34
msb_I think its better to go to non-polluting energy, like solar, cold-fusion/CANR, or even well-designed fission, rather than restrict everyone's energy usage to the point of making life difficult.Dec 12 23:35
cubexyzover use of plastics is a big problemDec 12 23:35
msb_But we burn far more oil for energy than we use for making plastics.Dec 12 23:36
cubexyzin general perhaps, I do a lot of walking :)Dec 12 23:36
msb_I might like a wearable computer, with VR goggles and a keyboard in one pocket and the guts in another.Dec 12 23:38
msb_Very lightweight goggles.Dec 12 23:38
cubexyzoil is a problem, totally agree Dec 12 23:38
msb_It should not be burned.Dec 12 23:38
cubexyzoil spills? terribleDec 12 23:39
msb_Non-polluting energy generation, plus batteries or hydrogen for cars.Dec 12 23:39
cubexyzI'm a big re-user of old stuff so that helpsDec 12 23:39
roy_https://twitter.com/Mark_Antony/status/543018956647591937Dec 12 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mark_Antony: Last day at work before heading to the U.S. Tomorrow and enjoying working with the GLA at City HallDec 12 23:40
msb_Lots of production of useless stuff in wealthy countries is because capitalism is tied to a 40 hour work week.  So to keep people employed, even though technology does most of the work, requires production of lots of unneeded goods.Dec 12 23:42
cubexyzhow many models of iphones were there? 5? 6?Dec 12 23:43
msb_Ultimately, we need socialism, about a 10 hour work week, a huge tax on wealth, and a comfortable lifestyle -- neither restrictive nor conspicuous-consumption,Dec 12 23:44
cubexyzmsb_, I don't mind working more than 10 hours per weekDec 12 23:45
msb_That would work for the entire world population.Dec 12 23:45
cubexyzI'd probably go crazy if I didn'tDec 12 23:45
msb_cubexyz: Fine, if you want to.Dec 12 23:45
roy_Interesting that the anti-Assange 'comedy' is written by this man: http://greekemmy.com/2014/12/11/bbc-writer-thom-phipps-advocates-the-murder-of-julian-assange/Dec 12 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-greekemmy.com | BBC writer Thom Phipps advocates the murder of Julian Assange | greekemmy [ http://ur1.ca/j3jlq ]Dec 12 23:45
msb_There's enough going on in the world that just reading about it or watching videos of it is more than I have time for, and I'm retired.Dec 12 23:46
msb_I wish I had time to do more programming!Dec 12 23:47
cubexyzjust checking out new distros could be a full time job :)Dec 12 23:47
msb_Yup.  I only need the one.Dec 12 23:48
cubexyzprogramming does require a fair amount of mental energyDec 12 23:49
cubexyzit's a question of prioritizingDec 12 23:49
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msb_I've found a perfect food:  pizza with beef (with the fat blotted off), provolone, artichoke hearts, mushrooms, roasted garlic, tomato sauce.  And they deliver!Dec 12 23:50
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msb_I want to write my own editor, based on BRIEF, but instead of an interpreted language for extensions, you just write them in C or Ruby, compile them and re-link.Dec 12 23:51
msb_Should be very small and simple, and on modern computers, re-linking only takes a couple of seconds.Dec 12 23:53
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cubexyzooo, there's a site selling thinkpads with corebootDec 13 01:49
cubexyzno stock though... hmmmDec 13 01:50
cubexyzT60 and X60Dec 13 01:53
cubexyzI qwDec 13 01:54
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cubexyzevidently that's what Stallman is using these days: a thinkpad x60 with libreboot (coreboot)Dec 13 01:59
cubexyzand TrisquelDec 13 01:59
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MinceRhttp://fi8.eu.apcdn.com/full/126411.jpgDec 13 13:25
cubexyzwhy not just put Sauron in there? :)Dec 13 13:30
MinceR:)Dec 13 13:36
MinceRthe windows logo matches the swastika betterDec 13 13:36
royhttp://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/13/us/politics/amid-details-on-torture-data-on-26-held-in-error-.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-shareDec 13 13:57
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MinceRalso, sauron wouldn't be evil enough for m$Dec 13 16:00
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royhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294953Dec 13 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jaywink@iliketoast.net: Meh, my #Firefox is somehow completely broken. Weird rendering sometimes, page resets to top on random, HTML5 reveal.js slides don't work, home/end buttons don't work. Tried remove/reinstall, no help. Trued stable, beta and developer edition - all the same. Any tips? What dependant libraries could cause this on #Ubuntu? Chromium is fine, everything sweet.Dec 13 16:34
royI am moving back to Rekonq. Firefox conf went crazy for me.Dec 13 16:35
MinceRtry making a new profile?Dec 13 16:36
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerDec 13 17:01
DaemonFCJust now ·Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFCGreat news! The author of the Seatab-X extension for Mozilla SeaMonkey has decided to release his extension under version 2.0 of the Mozilla Public License, which makes the extension Free and open-source software, and which also automatically makes the license compatible with the GNU General Public License.Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFCNow you can have close tab buttons in your Seamonkey browser without installing proprietary software.Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFCThe new maintainer is hosting the extension on the official Mozilla add-ons site.Dec 13 17:01
DaemonFChttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/seatab-x-2/Dec 13 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | SeaTab-X-2 :: Add-ons for SeaMonkey [ http://ur1.ca/hno5e ]Dec 13 17:01
MinceR:)Dec 13 17:07
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerDec 13 18:01
DaemonFC2 mins · Edited ·Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFChttp://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/12/anti-gay-n-c-church-members-indicted-on-felony-kidnapping-assault-of-gay-man/Dec 13 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lgbtqnation.com | Anti-gay N.C. church members indicted on felony kidnapping, assault of gay man – LGBTQ Nation [ http://ur1.ca/j3w79 ]Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC"In 1995, the church was the subject of an "Inside Edition" report on its "blasting" techniques, in which a person is encircled by church members and subjected to high-pitched shrilling sounds, screams and prayers. Blasting sessions can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours."Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFCSounds legit....Dec 13 18:01
DaemonFC Mason von Mason says:Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFCRT isn't going to like this! Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFCReich Thinking, Bowel Movement, and Remarkably Stupid Bastard definitely will not approve.Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFCI've got my retard flame retardant underwear on standby. Dec 13 18:03
MinceR:)Dec 13 18:03
DaemonFCMinceR: I decided that while I'm working on rebuilding my new computer, I'm just going to forget about trying to get Microsoft to reactivate my copy of Windows.Dec 13 18:04
DaemonFCIn the two hours on the phone arguing with them about it, I could just install Fedora and have everything copied over.Dec 13 18:05
DaemonFCI tried out Fedora 21 on my Core i7/R9 270X and it ran great, even with just open source drivers.Dec 13 18:05
MinceR:>Dec 13 18:06
DaemonFCSo, I don't think I really need any proprietary software in the kernel anymore.Dec 13 18:06
DaemonFCProprietary video drivers are basically the cause of upwards of 90% of your Linux frustrations these days anyway.Dec 13 18:06
DaemonFCThe proportional share grows as the quality of the rest of the Linux distributions gets better.Dec 13 18:07
MinceRuntil systemd shits itself, as it's bound to do. :>Dec 13 18:07
DaemonFCNah. I've never had any real problems with systemd.Dec 13 18:07
MinceRnot yet, you meanDec 13 18:07
DaemonFCI did have a lot of problems with Pulseaudio when it was new-ish.Dec 13 18:07
DaemonFCSo many problems that I gave up and went back to using Windows XP x64 Edition for a while while things settled down.Dec 13 18:08
MinceRpulseaudio couldn't hang your system, though.Dec 13 18:08
DaemonFCThe hell it couldn't.Dec 13 18:08
DaemonFCHave you ever tried using ALSA-OSS with Pulseaudio running?Dec 13 18:08
DaemonFCWell, that would be a moot point now anyway. Fedora and Ubuntu have deactivated the OSS 3 compatibility layer anyway.Dec 13 18:09
MinceRi haven'tDec 13 18:09
DaemonFCTo get OSS emulation back, you're going to need a custom kernel.Dec 13 18:09
DaemonFCIt makes a few old apps lose their sound, but I can see why they made this move.Dec 13 18:09
DaemonFCSome proprietary application developers were still writing new apps using the OSS 3 API, and they can't get away with that now, so they stopped.Dec 13 18:10
MinceRhttp://www.theonion.com/articles/rising-income-inequality-causing-wealthy-americans,37652/Dec 13 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Rising Income Inequality Causing Wealthy Americans To Take On Second Sailboat | The Onion - America's Finest News Source [ http://ur1.ca/j3wbw ]Dec 13 18:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294434Dec 13 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not only the #uk has multiple #nsa bases (paid for and operated by the #us to spy on us) http://rt.com/in-motion/213151-berlin-nsa-spy-station/ #germany #imperialism #usDec 13 18:34
schestowitz"Any country that hosts a US military base should be considered a US protectorate, Germany, Poland, even #Greece (unfortunately)."Dec 13 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rt.com | Drone footage of former NSA spy station in Germany — RT In motion [ http://ur1.ca/j3wgk ]Dec 13 18:34
schestowitzLeadership chosen by surveillance and bribeDec 13 18:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294617Dec 13 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa hoards all data from everyone not because everyone is suspected of a crime but because people easily controlled through blackmail. #mlkDec 13 18:35
schestowitz"Among the blackmail victims possibly Merkel ,Oland and other leaders who were being spied on..."Dec 13 18:35
schestowitzIf she knows she is being watched, she will "behave" (subservient to US)Dec 13 18:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5294329Dec 13 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #schmidt did not care about #privacy until it hurt his shares' value http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/internet/3590906/schmidt-nsa-revelations-forced-google-to-lock-down-data/ http://thehill.com/policy/technology/226962-google-head-we-dont-spy-on-youDec 13 18:37
schestowitz"Let us all start a crowd-funding campaign to help Google against the evil NSA."Dec 13 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcadvisor.co.uk | Schmidt: NSA revelations forced Google to lock down data - PC Advisor [ http://ur1.ca/j3wh7 ]Dec 13 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thehill.com | Google: We don’t spy on you | TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/j3wha ]Dec 13 18:37
schestowitzAs if....Dec 13 18:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5292657Dec 13 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Researchers 'Averaged' The Faces Of 400 CEOs — And The Results Say A Lot About Race In Business http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-average-face-of-400-ceos-2014-12?r=US #whiteprivilege #prDec 13 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com | The Average Face Of 400 CEOs - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/j3whj ]Dec 13 18:38
schestowitz"Woman looks Russian :-)."Dec 13 18:38
schestowitzCaucasians are projecting trust among much of the world Dec 13 18:38
DaemonFCWell, at least this 10 year old Dell craputer with Windoze XP can run Gens.Dec 13 18:54
DaemonFCOld DOS games and stuff.Dec 13 18:54
DaemonFC*sigh*Dec 13 18:54
DaemonFCI'm going to go nuts if I can't get my Core i7 system back up and running.Dec 13 18:55
DaemonFCThis old Celery processor can't even play Youtube videos smoothly.Dec 13 18:55
DaemonFCI went to install HexChat and it told me it doesn't support Windows XP anymore.Dec 13 18:56
DaemonFCSo I'm using ChatZilla.Dec 13 18:56
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Dec 13 20:11
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/week-religion-kentucky-govt-finally-cuts-subsidies-noahs-ark-museumDec 13 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | This Week in Religion: Kentucky Govt Finally Cuts Off Subsidies to Noah's Ark Museum | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/j3xbf ]Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFCKen Ham bought a billboard saying "Thank God you can't sink this ship.".Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFCTechnically, you can't sink a ship that's nowhere near water. I'm not sure why you'd thank God for that unless you're an idiot that built a ship that was nowhere near water.Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFCIn all seriousness, the fact that the taxpayer giveaway of $18 million was ever on the table is horrible. How many hungry people in Kentucky could be fed with $18 million? Instead, the state was seriously floating (no pun intended) the idea of subsidizing a for-profit Noah's Ark replica, designed to lure in gullible fools who believe that the biblical flood actually happened. Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC nameinuse says:Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFCWith global warming and all maybe it wiil be useful eventually. Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFCWell, that brings us to the next obvious statement.Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC"Thank God you can't sink this ship" -Titanic victims. And that thing was made out of metal! B-) Dec 13 20:12
DaemonFC nameinuse says:Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFCTheirs is made out of faith. Just like chemotherapy. Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFCTheir faith is so weak that they feel the need to lash out irrationally and sometimes violently at people who question it.Dec 13 20:21
DaemonFCI can't imagine anything that frail managing to hold a ship together. ;) Dec 13 20:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-SourceDec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Benchmarking Test FarmDec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ivoYP4xj1W (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 13 20:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source Linux Benchmarking Test Farm | Tux MachinesDec 13 20:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium ArchitectureDec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/qgttPJ6gPY (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 13 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium Architecture | Tux MachinesDec 13 21:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Week in Techrights http://t.co/4qBuhzB9hVDec 13 21:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Week in Techrights | Tux MachinesDec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in OfficialDec 13 21:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Repos http://t.co/jUM49mkjPdDec 13 21:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official Repos - SoftpediaDec 13 21:24
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MinceRhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwMzgDec 13 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] An Exploit In GNOME Shell With Systemd? [ http://ur1.ca/j3xwy ]Dec 13 21:28
MinceRunfixed for a yearDec 13 21:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Original Strife: Veteran Edition, TheDec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Original FPS & RPG Hybrid On Steam For Linux,Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 We Have Keys http://t.co/YkbLMTTC0VDec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Dec 13 21:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The Original Strife: Veteran Edition, The Original FPS & RPG Hybrid On Steam For Linux, We Have Keys | GamingOnLinuxDec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "GNU/Linux continues its takeoff. There’sDec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 growth everywhere and it’s increasing."Dec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5rR8SOrId4 (mrpogson.com)Dec 13 21:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | The Good News Just Keeps Flowing | Robert PogsonDec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Week in Techrights http://t.co/8BPRFyjjbpDec 13 21:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Week in Techrights | Tux MachinesDec 13 21:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in OfficialDec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Repos http://t.co/0tH4Uls1UdDec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 13 21:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE Gets Superb New Theme in Official Repos | Tux MachinesDec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light ReduxDec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Launch On Linux, Sorta (UPDATED)Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/yHjxHaqykV (www.gamingonlinux.com)Dec 13 21:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j3xziDec 13 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux Launch On Linux, Sorta (UPDATED) | GamingOnLinuxDec 13 21:38
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MinceRhayDec 13 21:50
sebsebsebMinceR: hiDec 13 21:50
sebsebsebMinceR: a thing on TV about Apple on ThursdayDec 13 21:50
sebsebseboh jono is in here :dDec 13 21:51
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sebsebsebwell was in here thenDec 13 21:51
MinceRlolDec 13 21:53
schestowitz> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2859122/your-linux-pc-isnt-as-secure-as-you-think-it-is.htmlDec 13 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Your Linux PC isn't as secure as you think it is | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/j3y3i ]Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz> Dec 13 21:53
schestowitz> trollinDec 13 21:53
schestowitzSeen that. I don't think the author can be dubbed troll though, given his background. I just let the first comment speak out...Dec 13 21:53
MinceRsebsebseb: you scared him away nicely, could do that more often ;)Dec 13 21:54
schestowitz> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/e-regulation/berners-lee-erosion-web-freedoms-157386Dec 13 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Sir Tim Berners-Lee Warns Of Erosion Of Web Freedoms [ http://ur1.ca/j3y4y ]Dec 13 21:58
schestowitz> Dec 13 21:58
schestowitz> Still does not match his endorsement of DRMDec 13 21:58
MinceRlolDec 13 21:59
MinceRemperor tim berners-lee warns us that he has eroded web freedoms!Dec 13 21:59
MinceRthank you, tim berners-lee, we haven't noticed!Dec 13 21:59
schestowitzlolDec 13 22:04
schestowitzhttp://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Facebook-Dumps-Microsoft-MSFT-FB-4825740.phpDec 13 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com | Facebook Dumps Microsoft (MSFT, FB) - SFGate [ http://ur1.ca/j3y6o ]Dec 13 22:05
MinceRdoes this mean m$ no longer gets a live feed of dumbFuckBook users' personal data? :>Dec 13 22:07
schestowitz> http://michigandaily.com/news/levin-highlights-bipartisanship-farewell-addressDec 13 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michigandaily.com | Levin highlights bipartisanship in farewell address - The Michigan Daily [ http://ur1.ca/j3y7m ]Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz> Dec 13 22:09
schestowitz> He was great and was often in international news for the good things heDec 13 22:09
schestowitz> was doing.Dec 13 22:09
schestowitzI remember him for many reasons, mostly good.Dec 13 22:09
*TweetTuxMachines @omicron6 favourited 'Metro 2033 Redux &amp; Metro Last Light Redux...'Dec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cyberpunk RTS Satellite Reign Arrives on SteamDec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux http://t.co/JDl3cs97WpDec 13 22:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Dec 13 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Cyberpunk RTS Satellite Reign Arrives on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaDec 13 22:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/deena651us/status/543896987649601536Dec 13 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deena651us: True “@schestowitz: #drones strikes, torture wars of conquest. r th fuel of #terrorism just ask recruit of violent groups why they r joiningDec 13 22:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon Edition : VideoDec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Overview and Screenshot ToursDec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8aQ4jZjsFd (linuxscoop.com)Dec 13 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon Edition : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours - Linux ScoopDec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     When android software comes to rizen linuxDec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/F9rofAw98A (www.tizenexperts.com)Dec 13 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Watch Styler App updated to version 1.0.05, shows better Compatibility with Gear S - Tizen ExpertsDec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay TrailDec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 SoCs http://t.co/qY1AKfSydO (linuxgizmos.com)Dec 13 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail SoCs ·  LinuxGizmos.comDec 13 22:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Wear “Lollipop” First Look and Tour!Dec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/tl6C0N6quy (www.droid-life.com)Dec 13 22:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.droid-life.com | Android Wear “Lollipop” First Look and Tour! | Droid LifeDec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nautilus Ported To New GTK Widgets For GNOMEDec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines                 3.16 http://t.co/BecPXWKfwJ (www.phoronix.com)Dec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j3ykaDec 13 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Nautilus Ported To New GTK Widgets For GNOME 3.16Dec 13 22:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SparkyLinux 3.6 "Annagerman" Lands with LXDE,Dec 13 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 MATE, Razor-Qt, and Xfce FlavorsDec 13 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Se0YkO6YP6 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 13 22:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SparkyLinux 3.6 "Annagerman" Lands with LXDE, MATE, Razor-Qt, and Xfce Flavors - SoftpediaDec 13 22:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Wear update: Everything you need toDec 13 22:55
TweetTuxMachines                 know http://t.co/rTuv7h3cHq (www.wareable.com)Dec 13 22:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wareable.com | Android Wear update: Everything you need to knowDec 13 22:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inside CoreOS Linux, Why Fleet and etcd MatterDec 13 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 [VIDEO] http://t.co/8qRtlkV1eqDec 13 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (mobile.serverwatch.com)Dec 13 22:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.serverwatch.com | Inside CoreOS Linux, Why Fleet and etcd Matter [VIDEO]Dec 13 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-SourceDec 13 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Benchmarking Test FarmDec 13 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0dnNMUUvHO (www.phoronix.com)Dec 13 22:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] A Walkthrough Of The New 32 System Open-Source Linux Benchmarking Test FarmDec 13 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium ArchitectureDec 13 23:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] GCC Has Been Ported To The Visium ArchitectureDec 13 23:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay TrailDec 13 23:14
TweetTuxMachines                 SoCs http://t.co/4MUr7i7lOYDec 13 23:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 13 23:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Newborn Mini-ITX twins run Linux on Bay Trail SoCs | Tux MachinesDec 13 23:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crowdfunding a USB-stick-sized, GNU/Linux-readyDec 13 23:14
TweetTuxMachines                 computer http://t.co/TOGkyAsiHIDec 13 23:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (boingboing.net)Dec 13 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Crowdfunding a USB-stick-sized, GNU/Linux-ready computer - Boing BoingDec 13 23:14
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MinceRhttp://40.media.tumblr.com/a3621569e19b2243fa796ba5f77bd877/tumblr_nghxpsbOQz1r7p8tto1_1280.jpgDec 13 23:53
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5260001Dec 07 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android motorcycle helmet open for pre-order http://linuxgizmos.com/skuly-android-motorcycle-helmet-open-for-pre-order/ #android #linuxDec 07 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Android motorcycle helmet open for pre-order ·  LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/j18mg ]Dec 07 00:27
schestowitz__"As someone who rode cycles quite a lot when I was younger, this sounds like a bad idea. You want all of your attention on THE ROAD, not a half-ton of info 2 inches in front of your nose."Dec 07 00:27
schestowitz__""Dec 07 00:28
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schestowitz__"This sounds like a very bad idea."Dec 07 00:28
schestowitz__Maybe text reading while you ride... next, adding "OK Google" to type some...Dec 07 00:28
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5264411Dec 07 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #phoronix Linux Test Farm http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1NDg great stuffDec 07 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Preview Of The Massive New Open-Source, Linux Test Farm [ http://ur1.ca/j18mt ]Dec 07 00:29
schestowitz__http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1801548g64.gifDec 07 00:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 7/12/2014:  Typhoon Hagupit, AURORAGOLDDec 07 01:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RlQVdxOrrO (techrights.org)Dec 07 01:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j18ziDec 07 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/12/2014: Typhoon Hagupit, AURORAGOLD | TechrightsDec 07 01:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/3ZMN8Zud25Dec 07 01:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 01:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j18zkDec 07 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesDec 07 01:39
cubexyzschestowitz, or whoever is reading...Dec 07 07:29
cubexyzI had to explicitly block some microsoft urls from my adsenseDec 07 07:29
cubexyzI saw a few "upgrade to windows 8.1" ads on my blogDec 07 07:30
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5264523Dec 07 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #MimikDec 07 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_14c3dc0093bf2fa11914.jpegDec 07 08:15
schestowitz__"cute kitten dreams of nothing but murder all day."Dec 07 08:15
schestowitz__cubexyz: that's their target audienceDec 07 08:15
schestowitz__trying to convert the other sideDec 07 08:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/Vem7P0AjdRDec 07 08:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 08:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesDec 07 08:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ubuntu and canonical Chasing the wrong problemsDec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/OXNMv1DHyE (benjaminkerensa.com)Dec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bftDec 07 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjaminkerensa.com | Chasing the wrong problems – Benjamin KerensaDec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FirefoxOS tethering in actionDec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/G0ju27CaPdDec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk)Dec 07 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Hotspots: My Firefox OS phone saved the dayDec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bfuDec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring UpDec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Arch Linux http://t.co/G7iyCrqEZ9Dec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Dec 07 08:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bfvDec 07 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up Arch LinuxDec 07 08:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chasing the wrong problemsDec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/UVQoUwh5yh (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bnrDec 07 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chasing the wrong problems | Tux MachinesDec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring UpDec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Arch Linux http://t.co/PeerV7QPSjDec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bnyDec 07 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antergos Is Working Out Well For Measuring Up Arch Linux | Tux MachinesDec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,Dec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/JG2PqCUvKQDec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Dec 07 09:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1bo0Dec 07 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired, GNOME-Aligned DesktopDec 07 09:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/541544986379300864Dec 07 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz what is remarkable is that even their censored truth is too damaging to release...that says a lot right there.Dec 07 10:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Continues its March into theDec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprise http://t.co/chBpBYSVcIDec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1cbvDec 07 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Continues its March into the Enterprise | Tux MachinesDec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Pydio: open source alternative to Dropbox & BoxDec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LQgXwdBu1y (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1cbxDec 07 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pydio: open source alternative to Dropbox & Box | Tux MachinesDec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired,Dec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME-Aligned Desktop http://t.co/nvzE8AI6ibDec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 11:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1cbyDec 07 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Budgie: A Lightweight, Chrome OS Inspired, GNOME-Aligned Desktop | Tux MachinesDec 07 11:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/metacode/status/541554416491696129Dec 07 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@metacode: Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop http://t.co/ZKGCGKW9cN (@schestowitz) "The Babe of Neoliberalism"Dec 07 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ukprogressive.co.uk | Chile’s Neoliberal Flip Flop | UK ProgressiveDec 07 11:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541558895265607681Dec 07 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz And thank you to @timberners_lee for the HTML groundwork. Adobe DRM will still be in HTML5 but that's better than #adobe Trash.Dec 07 11:50
schestowitzNo, @timberners_lee messed up in a very big way by endorsing #drm in #html5 after #mpaa had paid #w3cDec 07 11:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541561640601149440Dec 07 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I said thanks to him for HTML. I'm not convinced DRM can be kept *out* of HTML5. Regardless, better than Flash.Dec 07 11:59
schestowitzIt was already out of HTML. Then came HTML5 and with support from TimBL and Mozilla (among others) DRM got in.Dec 07 11:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, A friend's iPhone got hijacked by malware and started sending me pornographic spam on Facebook.Dec 07 12:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840  https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566316067295233 https://twitter.com/petrock/status/541566614290706432Dec 07 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not existDec 07 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz @timberners_lee I think this is a compromise that at least can help us throw out the Trash. But I understand why it's not idealDec 07 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: .@schestowitz @timberners_lee Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?Dec 07 12:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: was the pr0n at least good, or just some spam URLs?Dec 07 12:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541565896120995840Dec 07 12:44
schestowitz"Is it possible that this sandboxing is a reasonable compromise given alternatives, like "Trash"?"Dec 07 12:44
DaemonFCStuff like "Hook up with women in your local area."Dec 07 12:45
DaemonFCThat link is dead, according to Twitter.Dec 07 12:45
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schestowitz.@petrock  I don't think DRM is needed at all, except by the copyright monopoly, which we don't need (should adapt to - not tame - WWW)Dec 07 12:46
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MinceR(nsfw) http://de1.eu.apcdn.com/full/126290.jpgDec 07 13:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/5415893284936https://twitter.com/petrock/status/54158932849369088090880Dec 07 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not existDec 07 14:18
schestowitzNo, common error. DRM exists in some areas, but in others it struggles to gain traction, e.g. Web. Tim B-L ushered it in.Dec 07 14:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541599086319640576Dec 07 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz In practice, people are installing "Trash" to access media served through the web browser. Isn't this better if not perfect?Dec 07 14:43
schestowitzPeople installed Trash to play YouTube (they no longer need to do this). I don't know people using it for DRM stuff (rarity)Dec 07 14:44
MinceReven for videos with ads?Dec 07 14:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/541604604903825408Dec 07 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I know a lot of people who use Trash to stream movies and sports. Youtube is a big player but not the only big player.Dec 07 14:51
schestowitzMinceR: mehDec 07 14:52
schestowitzeither way, we don't rely much on DRMDec 07 14:52
schestowitzstreams and DRM are separate thingsDec 07 14:52
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schestowitz"I don't know who are your usual sources around the EPO. Check with them in case you have doubts on the authenticity. This is my first and last email ever."Dec 07 15:55
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856Dec 07 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__the only thing that doesn't work yet is pausing a video and resuming it a long time later, like the next day; it plays for a while (what's still cached in the buffer) and then displays an error. With flash it reloads the vid and resumes playing; not very beautiful either but at least it works""Dec 07 18:49
schestowitz__"I'm glad to see that Flash is no longer required. As good as the plug-in might be for some, especially for streaming TV channels, it opens up a can of worms in the form of invasive advertisements."Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__"So Youtube's no skip ads are only their own design???"Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__"With a plug-in like Ghostery, which blocks tracking cookies, the "no skip" ads don't come up."Dec 07 18:50
schestowitz__"Thanks for that, and when I have an up to date real Chrome, (my defunct Linux distro has an ancient Chromium that Google Play refuses to talk to), and I have bandwidth of my own, I may get it. Still, are there NO free lunches left in this world?"Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265594Dec 07 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "if the report is not released in a way [Udall] deems transparent, he would consider all options to make it public " http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.esquire.com | Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:51
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5251963Dec 07 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google Can Now Tell You’re Not a Robot With Just One Click http://www.wired.com/2014/12/google-one-click-recaptcha/ #google #security #captchaDec 07 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Google Can Now Tell You're Not a Robot With Just One Click | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/j1feq ]Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__Ah. I see you already had the link. Udall sounds too evasive to me in this.Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__My hunch is that Obama makes a deal that promises Udall something down the road and Udall declares his satisfaction with the 'transparency.'Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:52
schestowitz__Which magically makes them "good" for privacyDec 07 18:52
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5263442Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: B&N should take #microsoft to court again, both for #extortion and for #bribery http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-barnes-noble-end-nook-marriage-for-62-million/ http://techrights.org/2014/12/06/bribes-against-linux/Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com | Microsoft, B&N dissolve Nook marriage for $62 million - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffd ]Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__Oh wait, I forgot about the $1.7 billion dollar share of B&N that Microsoft stole as part of their "deal". Was that announced at the time or did they play some kind of shell game where the value only became evident as Microsoft unloaded the shares onto "institutional investors" who strangely enough think it's worthless today? The $300 in cash may still have served as a bribe despite the larger cost to B&N shareholders. Board members Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__and executives would have been paid off with it.Dec 07 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The Threat is Not Over: Microsoft Bribes Against Linux Adoption and in Favour of Extortion Against Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/j189l ]Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__Now Microsoft is handing themselves another $67 million and CNet spins that as Nook being worthless. After Microsoft ruined them it might be, but that's not an inherent problem or the nature of things.Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__"Rape labeled "marriage" in article."Dec 07 18:54
schestowitz__The power of spinDec 07 18:54
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5259958Dec 07 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2014/court-ruling-paves-the-way-for-european-court-of-human-rights-to-consider-%E2%80%9Cprivacy-not-prism%E2%80%9D-case #privacy #prismDec 07 18:56
schestowitz__"Governments have abandoned brutality? Or just made it less public and gory? I lived in China for 12 years. There brutality is present and endemic in both the governed and the government."Dec 07 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Court ruling paves the way for European Court of Human Rights to consider “Privacy not PRISM” case [ http://ur1.ca/j1ffr ]Dec 07 18:56
schestowitz__I was responding to the first commentDec 07 18:56
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265940Dec 07 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Whether the Senate ends up 'declassifying' (publishing) the whole #torture report, #wyden #udall or some unknown source will 'leak' itDec 07 18:57
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__This feels a bit too evasive to me:Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-udall-0115Dec 07 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esquire.com | Mark Udall on the CIA Torture Report - Mark Udall Says America Will Be Disgusted at Torture Report - Esquire [ http://ur1.ca/j1fem ]Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__"Dec 07 18:57
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265879Dec 07 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #udall does not need to do much except read out the blacked out bits in the Senate's #torture report. Someone will transcribe, merge.Dec 07 18:58
schestowitz__"My impression is that this 'reading' isn't even anywhere as hard as it sounds. He just has to give the word, and they'll put it in the Congressional Record."Dec 07 18:58
schestowitz__Even better thanDec 07 18:58
schestowitz__thenDec 07 18:58
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265507Dec 07 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The thing terror cells should fear most is the end of drone strikes and other such violations of intl' law as it would impede their growthDec 07 18:58
schestowitz__"Indeed. It must have been hard not to notice the symbiotic relationship between Osama bin Laden and George W. Bush that existed for a few years immediately following 9/11. Obama seems unable to pull that off so that he, rather than just the insurgents, enjoys a propaganda benefit."Dec 07 18:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live !Dec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/tj4qwL4mIH (makululinux.com)Dec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1gtiDec 07 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-makululinux.com | MakuluLinux Xfce 7 is Live ! | MakuluLinuxDec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming InDec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 3.19 http://t.co/JEu5mugwWCDec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Dec 07 22:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1gtjDec 07 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19Dec 07 22:14
schestowitz__cubelog1: http://cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/order-linux-discs.htmlDec 07 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk | Notes on Linux: Order Linux Discs [ http://ur1.ca/j1gty ]Dec 07 22:15
schestowitz__"Avoid Systemd by trying AntiX, Slackware or OpenBSD."Dec 07 22:15
schestowitz__Do you dislike it this much?Dec 07 22:15
schestowitz__cubexyz ^Dec 07 22:16
schestowitz__http://www.xombra.com/index.php?do=noticias&nota=6711&op=4&t=xanadu-gnu-linux-busca-beta-teDec 07 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xombra.com | Xanadu GNU/Linux busca beta testers! - xombra.com [ http://ur1.ca/j1gu5 ]Dec 07 22:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 But Still Tough Catalyst FightDec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7dY7UqR9Gv (www.phoronix.com)Dec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqeDec 07 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight ReviewDec 07 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storageDec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lGmS2PH0tm (www.mobilenapps.com)Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqfDec 07 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobilenapps.com | UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) : Mobile : Mobile & AppsDec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming InDec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 3.19 http://t.co/xCSCBttZmaDec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqgDec 07 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exciting Graphics Driver Changes Coming In Linux 3.19 | Tux MachinesDec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves,Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 But Still Tough Catalyst FightDec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4QIsXIINRk (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1hqmDec 07 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD A10-7800 Kaveri: Radeon Gallium3D Improves, But Still Tough Catalyst Fight | Tux MachinesDec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storageDec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO)Dec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Q4dmnDVSAr (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 22:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UbuTab Ubuntu/Android tablet with 1TB storage gets closer to its goal on Indiegogo (VIDEO) | Tux MachinesDec 07 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially ReleasedDec 07 22:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released | Tux MachinesDec 07 22:59
cubexyzschestowitz, personally yesDec 07 23:32
cubexyzI'm merely pointing out alternativesDec 07 23:33
cubexyzAntiX looks interestingDec 07 23:33
cubexyzthe younger linux users seem more in favour of systemdDec 07 23:35
cubexyzif you want systemd there are tons of distros out there to choose fromDec 07 23:35
cubexyzif you want to avoid systemd one needs to be more particularDec 07 23:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-CodecsDec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Editions Officially ReleasedDec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AJrEi1rYYC (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1in7Dec 07 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released | Tux MachinesDec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Steve Kemp (Debian): "I had to fight with theDec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian installer to get the beast working"Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PxOCHCnMdv (blog.steve.org.uk)Dec 07 23:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.org.uk | I eventually installed Debian on a new desktop.Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's BestDec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big ReviewDec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/MfU7aDqmmD (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 07 23:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1ingDec 07 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review | Tux MachinesDec 07 23:40
cubexyzI don't like distros that drop support for 32-bit cpus or that look bad on 4:3 screensDec 07 23:41
cubexyzbut that's another blog post for laterDec 07 23:41
cubexyzeven dropping 486 support is bad I'd sayDec 07 23:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Major NVIDIA Stable Driver ReleasedDec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lC2FzbPyrp (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 00:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced forDec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/2jUhAASGWpDec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 00:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for Ubuntu Touch | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Prisoners learning how to code with LinuxDec 08 00:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/m2wPj0zvk3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 00:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Prisoners learning how to code with Linux | Tux MachinesDec 08 00:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphillDec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines                 to developers http://t.co/sADvpoOiorDec 08 01:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google's Massive New Android Update Is ComingDec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines                 To The Galaxy S5 http://t.co/6gIUH1IczkDec 08 01:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's Massive New Android Update Is Coming To The Galaxy S5 | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Og Maciel: "today is my 3-year anniversary atDec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat!"Dec 08 01:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UT15phTPEF (omaciel.github.io)Dec 08 01:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-omaciel.github.io | Three Years and Counting!Dec 08 01:00
cubexyzschestowitz, that antiX site you linked to has microsoft adsDec 08 01:04
cubexyzhttp://www.linuxscreenshots.orgDec 08 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Linux Distribution Screenshot ToursDec 08 01:04
cubexyzlooks like they are targetting linux sites for sureDec 08 01:04
cubexyzI've got microsoft.com blocked, should have done that years agoDec 08 01:05
schestowitz__cubexyz: not internationallyDec 08 01:05
schestowitz__through third partyDec 08 01:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I'm glad to announce that I've been awarded aDec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 5,000 USD "Flash Grant" by the ShuttleworthDec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Foundation." http://t.co/08bA6PdU14Dec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (upsilon.cc)Dec 08 01:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-upsilon.cc | Shuttleworth Foundation Flash GrantDec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8BvDec 08 01:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung and open source | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; NoDec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony XperiaDec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/iYUKEF8kMT (www.gospelherald.com)Dec 08 01:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gospelherald.com | Android L Update for HTC One M8, M7 Delayed; No Release Dates for LG G3 or Sony Xperia | Gospelherald.comDec 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has AnnouncedDec 08 01:30
TweetTuxMachines                 New Mystery Game http://t.co/mf8731AfhgDec 08 01:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Dec 08 01:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The Developer Of 'Pixel Piracy' Has Announced New Mystery Game | GamingOnLinuxDec 08 01:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the SameDec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Performance as X11 http://t.co/3iByR1xnCLDec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 - SoftpediaDec 08 01:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup LooksDec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Stunning http://t.co/m1GIwPymcrDec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OnePlus One with Ubuntu Touch Mockup Looks Stunning - SoftpediaDec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jotDec 08 01:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RHQ 4.13 released  http://t.co/IUnRKkeCdZDec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk)Dec 08 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pilhuhn.blogspot.co.uk | Some things to remember: RHQ 4.13 releasedDec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jqvDec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 21 Release on December 9 ConfirmedDec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BxrDXOph1j (linux.softpedia.com) Dec 08 01:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kbDJ1qFAVz (www.phoronix.com)Dec 08 01:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Fedora 21 Release on December 9 Confirmed - SoftpediaDec 08 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Fedora 21 Is Coming In Just Two Days With Big ImprovementsDec 08 01:36
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Samsung and open source http://t.co/kJL9DsK8Bv'Dec 08 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung and open source | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast withDec 08 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 New Update http://t.co/nYZBllG3ZvDec 08 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 01:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1jt0Dec 08 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with New Update - SoftpediaDec 08 01:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Quick Start Guide Dec 08 01:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2yWwbvfbX7Dec 08 01:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.adityapatawari.com) essential reading forDec 08 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adityapatawari.com | Docker Quick Start GuideDec 08 01:42
TweetTuxMachines                 sysadminsDec 08 01:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @SteamSwapReddit favourited 'Valve Fixes Steam for Linux Game Broadcast with...'Dec 08 01:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the SameDec 08 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Performance as X11 http://t.co/KS1bxBvp1SDec 08 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 01:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dota 2 Runs Natively on Mir with the Same Performance as X11 | Tux MachinesDec 08 01:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/RDhgOFWgECDec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k26Dec 08 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux MachinesDec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Features On The Horizon For The LinuxDec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel http://t.co/7fLaTOO2XwDec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Dec 08 02:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] New Features On The Horizon For The Linux KernelDec 08 02:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.18 released http://t.co/bGKYm2fSKVDec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (lkml.iu.edu) " It's been a quiet week, and theDec 08 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 3.18 releasedDec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines                 patch from rc7 is tiny, so 3.18 is out."Dec 08 02:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially ReleasedDec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WvX20rMtLj (linux.softpedia.com)Dec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k2aDec 08 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.17.5 Officially Released - SoftpediaDec 08 02:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-CodecsDec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Editions Officially ReleasedDec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/V3XzjjSEVt (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k3rDec 08 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" OEM and No-Codecs Editions Officially Released - SoftpediaDec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's BestDec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/yUgXnIuHxG (www.forbes.com)Dec 08 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Android Circuit: Galaxy S6 Leaks, Google's Best Android Games From 2014, Lollipop's Big Review - ForbesDec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k3tDec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Major NVIDIA Stable Driver ReleasedDec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5Owov1DKy9 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 02:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1k3uDec 08 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Major NVIDIA Stable Driver Released - SoftpediaDec 08 02:12
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778724786429952   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541778878419591168   Dec 08 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz heh, I thought you trying to call companies open-sourcing things #openwashing was kinda sad, but #mono theism is funny. :)Dec 08 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I have a copy of VS 2015 preview installed and they're trying to tie in w/ Xamarin for cross-platform mobile dev. But theDec 08 02:21
schestowitz__all about spreading the API that is a patent threat and domination factor for Microsoft, universally, across devices/platformsDec 08 02:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779083298762752   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779188017946625Dec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Xamarin component installer for Windows wouldn't work so I haven't tried making a project. You need a Mac w/ Xcode anyway toDec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz do Xamarin development for iOS, and you can do Xamarin on Android from Linux or Mac, so Windows is the worst platform for it.Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779303692660736Dec 08 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz except if you want to run on Windows Phone of course. MSFT is trying so hard to play their old games of locking people in!Dec 08 02:22
schestowitz__No, they luuuurve ... "open source"... they say soDec 08 02:22
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779452426858496Dec 08 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz yep. They want to lock people into patented XAML, which is more complicated and confusing than non-patented XML or CSS layout.Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__XAML is another matter, even worse, but failingDec 08 02:23
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779622568792065Dec 08 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been thinking, you can find early Android engineers on video telling devs they chose Java over C# bc of fears of MSFT IP.Dec 08 02:23
schestowitz__links?Dec 08 02:24
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779773370810368   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541779909039767553Dec 08 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the irony is that all their OEMs ended up getting sued *anyway* by MSFT over other "essential" interop and API patents,Dec 08 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and then *also* got sued by Oracle after they bought Sun, over Java. The irony is they should've gone w/ C#, better language!Dec 08 02:24
schestowitz__Better in what sense? Look at the stewardship... a criminal company.Dec 08 02:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780044536770560Dec 08 02:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm thinking of early Google I/O talks with Dan Bornstein, in the Q&A sections. I'll see what I can dig up.Dec 08 02:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780307163107329Dec 08 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz better in the technical sense, purely. As an engineer, I prefer C#. To pick one minor feature, it has unsigned types.Dec 08 02:26
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780464369811456   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780590136004608  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780787897450497   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541780948862255105Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz it's a better language because they took all the good ideas from other languages that came before (incl Java, Ada, Delphi, etc)Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz I think the other reasons the Android engineers chose Java over C# were familiarity from having done a previous JVM for Danger,Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the feeling that there would be stronger Java IDE tooling (which there definitely is) than C#, and most used Mac or Linux.Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz that's why I'm curious about Xamarin Studio as a third-party alternative to VS. I'm a huge fan of IntelliJ (Android Studio).Dec 08 02:32
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781396839469056  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781635641774080Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I've been a commercial or OSS user of IntelliJ since a Danger colleague recommended it to me in 2005: far superior to Eclipse!Dec 08 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the funny thing is that JetBrains open-sourced and made a free community version of IntelliJ IDEA, and then Google has beenDec 08 02:32
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541781968803729408 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782126371164161Dec 08 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz licensing the code (and paying for a small in-house tools team) to support the (free but closed-source) Android Studio fork.Dec 08 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I stand corrected: it appears that Android Studio itself is open-source and you can build it yourself (from within itself!) :PDec 08 02:33
schestowitz__IC... Java/Apache.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_StudioDec 08 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Android Studio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/j1kc9 ]Dec 08 02:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782643004555264Dec 08 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz BTW @jetbrains is equally well-known and popular as a C# tools vendor. They're also one of the few Czech tech companies I know.Dec 08 02:36
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541782992666914816  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541783442954784768   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784280695701504   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784393082101760  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784471897264129Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'd say @jetbrains is a great model of a small company far from the tech hubs that succeeded by making really great products.Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @jetbrains also found ways to embrace free and open-source models while also finding companies with money to bill for support.Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: BTW @schestowitz you may find in the Oracle transcripts Andy Rubin answering q's about the big license fees that Danger paid to Sun for theDec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "TCK" kits to test the compatibility of Danger's clean-room Java implementation w/ Sun's J2ME, MIDP, etc. standards to get theDec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz "coffee cup" logo prominently shown in the system info screen on the Sidekick/hiptop. That's why, even though I was still atDec 08 02:43
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784602398846976   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784710070808576Dec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz Danger when I heard the news that Android (still secret but rumored to be working on a phone) announced their alliance to sellDec 08 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz their own open-source Java-based mobile OS, not licensed from Sun. I figured that might cause them some trouble down the line,Dec 08 02:43
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784814353805312   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541784960407846912Dec 08 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz but I kept my thoughts about the matter to myself (until just now). The trial made it pretty obvious that Oracle was hoping forDec 08 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz a similar type of payday that Sun had been trying to achieve with new-generation mobile platforms like they had been previouslyDec 08 02:44
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785110723297280   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785248292278272Dec 08 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz with J2ME (MIDP, "midlets") for the old feature phones. The funny thing is the Sidekick had to support a MIDP emulation mode,Dec 08 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz purely for the purposes of running Sun's testsuite that cost 6 or 7 figures to license. It's obvious why Android would want notDec 08 02:47
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785451569238017   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785564547002368   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541785745728344064Dec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz to get stuck in that situation in the first place, but I wasn't surprised that they would end up being challenged to cough upDec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz some equivalent form of tribute to the makers of Java, for something. Maybe the answer is only to use ISO or ECMA standards. :/Dec 08 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz except that you know just as I do how easily corrupted intl. standards bodies are, LOL! So what's the answer? C++/JS seem safe.Dec 08 02:48
schestowitz__GPLv3 for Java...Dec 08 02:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced forDec 08 02:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/1vnhZ9DGwkDec 08 02:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Dec 08 02:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1kgxDec 08 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Year End Core Apps Hack Days Announced for Ubuntu Touch - SoftpediaDec 08 02:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google's Massive New Android Update Is ComingDec 08 02:49
TweetTuxMachines                 To The Galaxy S5 http://t.co/n3QDo4RMkbDec 08 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (uk.businessinsider.com) new compilers tooDec 08 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Bq4VvAno6Z (www.infoworld.com)Dec 08 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Android 5.0 Lollipop Update For The Galaxy S5 - Business InsiderDec 08 02:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/j1kgyDec 08 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers | InfoWorldDec 08 02:50
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856Dec 08 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.Dec 08 02:56
schestowitz__"I'd use Chrome but I don't trust Google. At best, I'd use Chromium and only because it's possible to install the Pepper API Flash plug-in in there but ultimately, I'd rather have a system without ANY kind of proprietary software."Dec 08 02:56
schestowitz__Sometimes I run Chromium but still feel guilty about itDec 08 02:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines andDec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Prisoners on GNU/Linux http://t.co/uD3hc24A2FDec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Dec 08 04:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines and Prisoners on GNU/Linux | TechrightsDec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Features On The Horizon For The LinuxDec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel http://t.co/CglMfp0EyGDec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 04:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Features On The Horizon For The Linux Kernel | Tux MachinesDec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.18 released http://t.co/2IuNM4wR1hDec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 04:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.18 released | Tux MachinesDec 08 04:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/5V2G59ibPADec 08 04:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 04:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesDec 08 04:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/Z2ZrI1GTCnDec 08 04:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 04:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesDec 08 04:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/vWYUto4E4lDec 08 04:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Dec 08 04:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesDec 08 04:48
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806658289008640  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541806905660669953   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807075542564865   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807371261997056Dec 08 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz that only applies if you use Oracle's official version of Java, not if you go write your own VM like Dalvik (or ART).Dec 08 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz from what I gathered by reading the court coverage, the essential sticking point was that Sun didn't want a royalty-free AOSP.Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz and the Android team didn't want to use Sun's JVM anyway, because they thought they could do better, and then give it away.Dec 08 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but why would *anyone* want to build a mobile OS on top of GPLv3 version of Java when all OEMs want to go Apache/BSD licensed?Dec 08 08:18
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541807887857614848   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808418546147328   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808566185623552   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808646246514688Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz IMO rather than add a single new line of GPL, you'd have a more sellable product rebasing on top of *BSD kernel, not LInux. :)Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz the other impression I formed from the Oracle vs. Google case is that Java is dead outside of enterprise, smart cards, etc.Dec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Java has a few markets where it utterly dominates, like COBOL does, or IBM mainframes, but in retrospect, applets in web pagesDec 08 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz were a doomed proposition bc they didn't have a proper bridge to the DOM. JavaScript was the real answer, but the VMs neededDec 08 08:19
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808797262442496  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541808932025405440   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809241862836224    https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809546449006592Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz to catch up. The arrival of Chrome spurred interest elsewhere, and now there are multiple great open-source JS VMs besides V8.Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Regardless, Java is too late to succeed on phones again, I think. It's had its day in the Sun, as it were. ;)Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & on the closed-source, professional, high-end, supercomputer side is Apple, who have the best APIs, the best silicon, etc.Dec 08 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz & notice that Apple has been against Java on iOS, against even letting Firefox, Chrome or any other browser use their own VM.Dec 08 08:20
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541809765513310209   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810145903132672  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810308428206080   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810437830873088   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810669457137664Dec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz there's an interest in people cross-compiling from other source languages (Java, C#, JS) into Obj-C to get into Apple's store.Dec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz tl;dr is I'm not going to second-guess the decisions made to use Java in the way Android did bc the plan obviously succeeded.Dec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz I'm trying to figure out what the mobile landscape is going to look like outside of iOS. I'm typing this on a Chromebook fromDec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Google (purchased w/ my own money) that is doing everything in JavaScript and C++ (and some NaCl), no JVM whatsoever.Dec 08 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz it has an Intel Core processor and Google's ultra-sandboxed version of Adobe Flash, whose proprietary flavor of JavaScript isDec 08 08:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810776852275200   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541810906380763136  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811110605635585  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541811894122577920Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz exactly what Sun was trying to do (and failed utterly) with Java applets. So even by its own standards (annoying adverts, DRM)Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz a commercial, closed-source, non-free, JavaScript-based advertising platform beat Java applets and only now is HTML5 able toDec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz begin to finally kill off Flash to enable a fully open-standards based Web. Just like Steve Jobs would've wanted (no sarcasm).Dec 08 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz Related: "No thank you, @infoworld, I won't be viewing those particular banner ads tonight." ;P http://t.co/zPDEJqrG48Dec 08 08:23
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812764604252161   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541812873207365632   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541813064706686976Dec 08 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz The biggest irony of all with Java is their famous battle w/ Microsoft over control of the platform caused MSFT to scuttle aDec 08 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz perfectly good Java-based mobile platform (with Danger) along w/ doing anything Java-related at all for fear of more trouble.Dec 08 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz but first they invented .NET and C# to give themselves a completely different proprietary VM to tout & ultimately neglect. :/Dec 08 08:24
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/541856841169260544Dec 08 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: cc @schestowitz: replacement #Android toolchain bypasses use of Oracle's javac and Java .class files, by @syegulalp http://t.co/PYMimzf67kDec 08 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | Android's Jack and Jill compilers head uphill to developers | InfoWorldDec 08 08:25
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265763Dec 08 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World? http://www.malaysiandigest.com/business/531531-does-china-really-have-the-most-powerful-economy-in-the-world.html interesting points. #chinaDec 08 08:41
schestowitz__"Are you trying to get me talking about the banks??? (suitable emoticon)."Dec 08 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.malaysiandigest.com | Does China Really Have The Most Powerful Economy In The World?Dec 08 08:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5267125Dec 08 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the Chinese economy halted production tomorrow, would anyone notice? How about US halt? Therein lies the answer about economic dominance.Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__"Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__If the US halted production tomorrow that would leave me with bad taste in the mouth.Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__Believe it or not I haven't managed to find toothpaste and toothbrushes non-US made, besides that I have been doing fine.Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__"Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__They're made in China too (brushes)Dec 08 08:42
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5265856Dec 08 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kudos to #google for dumping #adobe Trash from #youtube - been playing YT videos for months, no Trash installed on this PC. Uses HTML5 only.Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__"I completely understand you, I feel the same way. I'm not using GNU/Linux at this very moment but when I do again, it'll be completely free with Trisquel most likely. It's not open-source that I believe in but rather free software. Chromium does not strike me as free software."Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__"Chromium could not be FREE considering Google's ethos. So why use an out of date version of Chrome, (even more outdated if you use Debian Stable repos), rather than a continually updated Chrome?"Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__"Why not just use Firefox or something lighter which you know to be free and boycott the very idea of Flash since it is insecure and used to deliver ever-more-invasive advertisements?"Dec 08 08:43
schestowitz__"I choose Chrome on the basis it works for me. No guilt feelings. Fortunately my philosophy/religion holds that Compromise is inevitable. I also watch a little YouTube, but I use DuckDuckGo as my Search Engine to avoid being tracked, so far avoided potentially spying friendly smartphones and try to keep below the Man's radar. Doubtless I frequently fail, but much much less so than the F*c*book generation who may some day regret Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__giving up their freedom so cheaply."Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__"Unfortunately, all of our friends insist on being on Facebook regardless of our constant calls to use Diaspora and/or rely on e-mail alone. They're incredibly hard-headed about giving up a service which does nothing good for them."Dec 08 08:44
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268916Dec 08 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #mono theism: the misguided false belief that #windows APIs will somehow be compatible with #gnu #linux http://www.gamedev.net/topic/663511-bmfont-on-linux-a-possibility/Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__"Use WINE?"Dec 08 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamedev.net | BMFont on Linux. A possibility? - AngelCode - GameDev.net [ http://ur1.ca/j1q92 ]Dec 08 08:44
schestowitz__Wine is for users rather than developersDec 08 08:44
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268413Dec 08 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prisoners learning how to code with Linux http://jimlynch.com/linux-articles/prisoners-learning-how-to-code-with-linux/ #gnu #linux #educationDec 08 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com | Prisoners learning how to code with Linux [ http://ur1.ca/j1q9e ]Dec 08 08:45
schestowitz__"certainly a great way to lose weeks ;)"Dec 08 08:45
schestowitz__"Dec 08 08:46
schestowitz__"Requested Range Not Satisfiable"Dec 08 08:46
schestowitz__That's a new error for me. Never seen that in my life.Dec 08 08:46
schestowitz__"Dec 08 08:46
schestowitz__Works from hereDec 08 08:46
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5268969Dec 08 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Saying that #EricGarner sold cigs similar to saying #drone victims were engaging in "suspicious activity"; health problems="imminent threat"Dec 08 08:50
schestowitz__"Wow, being killed for selling cigarettes is fine? That sounds so Nazi."Dec 08 08:50
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5269008Dec 08 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. #Rockefeller 's shameful attempt to kill #FOIA reform? https://freedom.press/blog/2014/12/why-arent-more-news-outlets-covering-sen-rockefellers-shameful-attempt-kill-foia-reformDec 08 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freedom.press | Why aren't more news outlets covering Sen. Rockefeller's shameful attempt to kill FOIA reform? | Freedom of the Press Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/j1qc3 ]Dec 08 08:51
schestowitz__"Do you really need to ask? We both know that the media is bought and owned by the people who would benefit from these reforms."Dec 08 08:51
schestowitz__"Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__I got your email address from a friend.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__You are probably aware of what is going on at the EPO.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__I attach a demo poster/flyer for tomorrows solidarity demos in The Hague and Munich, for your convenience.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__I further attach a publication (by an unknown group of authors) illustrating the worksphere within the Office. Enjoy the reading.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__The background is that two colleagues currently face disciplinary measures for their activity as members of the Internal Appeals Committee,Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__although persons carrying out such duties are protected against such measures.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__It is simply another example of an abuse of power of EPO president Bemoît Battistelli.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__Please do not hesitate to contact me if you want to get more information.Dec 08 09:11
schestowitz__Best regards, an epo insiderDec 08 09:11
schestowitz__"Dec 08 09:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines andDec 08 10:27
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Prisoners on GNU/Linux http://t.co/uD3hc24A2FDec 08 10:27
TweetTuxMachines @_hemalc        (techrights.org)Dec 08 10:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/12/2014: New Linux Release, Marines and Prisoners on GNU/Linux | TechrightsDec 08 10:27
schestowitz__> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__> Dec 08 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Microsoft Calls Its Time On The Nook Tablet [ http://ur1.ca/j1rdn ]Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__> I think you saw this already.Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.Dec 08 10:44
schestowitz__> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https://twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832Dec 08 10:46
schestowitz__> I think you saw this already.Dec 08 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/mobility/tablets/microsoft-ends-nook-tablet-156949https:/twitter.com/TheBigNigInAWig/status/541905931702136832 )Dec 08 10:46
schestowitz__I wrote two articles about this in the past 3 days.Dec 08 10:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/ZE3Vg4YQgYDec 08 10:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux MachinesDec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? YourDec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 tech questions answered  http://t.co/NwQNLaB277Dec 08 10:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered | Technology | The GuardianDec 08 10:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/sXPuTYQlNlDec 08 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines                 tech questions answered http://t.co/8OeS6LNb6dDec 08 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to get the most out of a Raspberry Pi? Your tech questions answered | Tux MachinesDec 08 17:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to theDec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and MoreDec 08 17:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6y8DvgDI1m (www.linux.com)Dec 08 17:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Greg Kroah-Hartman on Contributing to the Kernel, Life as a Maintainer, Beer, and More | Linux.comDec 08 17:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success Dec 08 17:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Randa Meetings 2014 - Another Great Success | KDE.newsDec 08 17:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker: Here, take the wheel – now YOU can run