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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/612395268764372993 https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/612395676148695040Jun 21 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @DanHannanMEP @schestowitz (but we are more influential than other animals)Jun 21 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @DanHannanMEP @schestowitz Also: What's the intersection of Twitter with the several OTHER parties in UK ? Greens, Wigs, #Libertarians, etc.Jun 21 00:20
schestowitzother parties unspeakable, esp. SNPJun 21 00:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SheltonLSmith/status/612396942669291520Jun 21 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SheltonLSmith: @FrancisJeffrey7 @DanHannanMEP @schestowitz yeah I'm a green, where's my circle :DJun 21 00:21
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/612400531466645504Jun 21 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @DanHannanMEP Those whose name must not be spoken. --includes Greens ? Then U are in a distinct minority opo the Torries.Jun 21 00:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/612407171477848065Jun 21 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Strange how the conspiracy theory pages claim that the U.S. Government blew up the surrounding buildings.Jun 21 01:00
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oiaohmhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Modesetting-Output-Master  This is getting interesting.Jun 21 04:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | PRIME, Mode-Setting Driver Improvements Yield Better USB Graphics Support - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/mvxpz ]Jun 21 04:23
oiaohmKinda explain why multi-seat functionality in boot up might become critical.Jun 21 04:24
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gde33|2http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2015/06/bombshell-secret-documents-show-monsanto-knew-about-glyphosate-link-to-cancer-over-35-years-ago-2584764.htmlJun 21 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beforeitsnews.com | Bombshell Secret Documents Show Monsanto Knew About Glyphosate Link To Cancer Over 35 Years Ago | EU [ http://ur1.ca/mvyu7 ]Jun 21 07:00
gde33|2imho if owning information like trade secrets are a good idea should be based on worse case cenarios?Jun 21 07:02
gde33|2I bet more than half the multinationals have a box with x-files where they are "acidentally" killing people.Jun 21 07:03
oiaohmgde33|2: the interesting bit is most items that are growth promotents are cancer risks.Jun 21 07:05
oiaohmglyphosate is not a poison its a growth promotent.   "which prevents the formation of new cells in living organisms."  Prevent formation healthy cells.   Does not prevent leukemia ie blood cancerJun 21 07:17
oiaohmgde33|2:  That leukemia link is in the monsanto documents.Jun 21 07:18
gde33|2oiaohm: I take it as just one example out of many where trade secrets are bad for societyJun 21 07:18
gde33|2long ago companies were not allowed to have any secrets. When they did we had big tobacco carefully plan their propaganda etcJun 21 07:19
oiaohmnicotine is a posion.   Nicotine never causes cancer its the other chemicals in cigerates that cause cancer.Jun 21 07:20
oiaohmYes the growth premotents Jun 21 07:20
gde33|2that is not an excuse to have secrets Jun 21 07:21
oiaohmReally in this case having secrets is a big problem.Jun 21 07:21
oiaohmWhat people are not aware of is humans no matter what you do will be exposed to growth premotents so will have the risk of cancer.Jun 21 07:22
gde33|2designing society around an exploitation model is getting the priorities all wrongJun 21 07:22
oiaohmKey thing here is level of exposure.Jun 21 07:22
oiaohmLight exposure to the likes of glyphosate is harmless.Jun 21 07:22
oiaohmProblem water treatment and the like has not been making sure exposure is light.Jun 21 07:23
gde33|2It is just unesasary bullshit, growing crops without all this nonsense actually gave better yieldsJun 21 07:24
oiaohmI lived on a properity.Jun 21 07:25
oiaohmI know glyphosate sounds bad.Jun 21 07:25
gde33|2I live in an area that use to be full of seed companies.Jun 21 07:25
oiaohmAll this stuff was in Australian material safety datasheets from 15 years go.Jun 21 07:25
gde33|2the first one to get the research finished would get the patent and hurt all the others.Jun 21 07:25
oiaohmSo USA guys are kinda panicking that they are being told now.Jun 21 07:25
gde33|2one by one they all lost the gameJun 21 07:26
gde33|2the winners took over the losersJun 21 07:26
gde33|2now there are 2 left, syngenta and monsantoJun 21 07:26
oiaohmgde33|2: do you the chemicals glyphosate got right of were like.Jun 21 07:26
oiaohmThink stuff in the grate of agent organge.Jun 21 07:27
oiaohmgrate/gradeJun 21 07:27
gde33|2lets not forget all the indian farmers killing themselvesJun 21 07:27
oiaohmLot of the old chemicals usinged instead of glyphosate where true toxins.Jun 21 07:27
oiaohmSo mix of nerve, poison(ie killing bits and cancer agents.Jun 21 07:28
oiaohmCorrect management at least glyphosate can be safeJun 21 07:28
gde33|2we have to kill monoculture Jun 21 07:29
oiaohmgde33|2: the predeseeor to glyphosate is DDTJun 21 07:30
gde33|2or at least downscale it as much as possibleJun 21 07:30
gde33|2o god yes, DDTJun 21 07:30
gde33|2that was why leukemia vacines "worked"Jun 21 07:30
oiaohmgde33|2: so lets keep this in prospective.Jun 21 07:30
gde33|2because they banned DDTJun 21 07:31
oiaohmDDT and glyphosate both cause leukemia the same way.Jun 21 07:31
oiaohmSo no banning DDT should not have dropped leukemia rates at all.Jun 21 07:31
oiaohmYes the vacines do in fact work.Jun 21 07:31
gde33|2I cant see the offenders as the main problem tho, the real problem is how everyone is cool with being killedJun 21 07:32
oiaohmThink that this data was in Australian material data sheets 15 years go and those are publically readable documents.Jun 21 07:32
gde33|2you do understand that vacines are not a description of anything?Jun 21 07:32
oiaohmSo it not that monsanto has kept this secret.Jun 21 07:33
gde33|2you are saying that you can just inject anything into the human body and it is perfectly safe, even good for youJun 21 07:33
gde33|2regardless of contentJun 21 07:33
gde33|2they've told you that it is good for you to kill youJun 21 07:34
oiaohmgde33|2: the human body is a complex beast.Jun 21 07:34
oiaohmA small amount of a killing toxin can in fact make the human body develop counter measures to it.Jun 21 07:34
gde33|2big pharma is lying all the time in the most obvious waysJun 21 07:34
gde33|2currently they are spending big millions to teach the great unwashed that informed consent is a bad thingJun 21 07:35
gde33|2vacines are 99% bullshitJun 21 07:35
oiaohmNo vacines are not 99 bullshit.Jun 21 07:35
oiaohmThe issue is that everything is evolving.Jun 21 07:35
gde33|2there is no data that shows vacines workJun 21 07:36
oiaohmAbsolutely wrong.Jun 21 07:36
gde33|2we do have lots of data how it is killing peopleJun 21 07:36
oiaohmcisro australia has done serveys on that.Jun 21 07:36
gde33|2if you want to do something about infectious diseases you should start at the airportJun 21 07:36
oiaohmTheir data is interesting.Jun 21 07:36
cubexyzlook at statistics for measlesJun 21 07:36
gde33|2keep people in quarantine for up to 2 weeksJun 21 07:36
cubexyzit's quite clearJun 21 07:36
oiaohmDo you that most people who die froma vacine will die from the virus itself.Jun 21 07:37
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/us-measles.pngJun 21 07:37
oiaohmgde33|2: tell me how a non living vacine kills a human.Jun 21 07:37
gde33|2with a death rate of 0.000237 measles are not on the mapJun 21 07:37
cubexyznotice the _huge_ drop in the 1960sJun 21 07:37
oiaohmA non living vacine kills a human by having their own white cell do it.Jun 21 07:37
oiaohmSo a vacine does not kill the person at all.Jun 21 07:38
oiaohmIt the person defective dna that does it.Jun 21 07:38
cubexyzread up on Jonas SalkJun 21 07:38
oiaohmgde33|2:  you hear about need for per person medicial tests.Jun 21 07:39
cubexyzpolio vaccine created in 1955Jun 21 07:39
oiaohmSolution to all the vacine problems is cheap means to do per person tests.Jun 21 07:39
cubexyzhugely significantJun 21 07:39
gde33|2the discussion is not about if it works btw, it is about informed consentJun 21 07:40
oiaohmThere is a problem.Jun 21 07:40
cubexyzI'm more worried about Microsoft than vaccines :)Jun 21 07:40
oiaohmdo you know how we get vaccine resistant measles.Jun 21 07:40
oiaohmgde33|2: do you?Jun 21 07:40
oiaohmTurns out you need a human carrier with measles who did not have the vaccine.Jun 21 07:41
gde33|2I'm not interested in your view about vaccines, if you want to take shots go aheadJun 21 07:41
oiaohmThe problem here is there is no point to the vaccines if people get to skip out of taking it.Jun 21 07:42
oiaohmIts why small pox removal worked.Jun 21 07:42
gde33|2There is a massive corporate manhunt trying to shut up anyone who talks about it.Jun 21 07:42
oiaohmNot true at all.Jun 21 07:43
gde33|2The goal is not at all to make you healthyJun 21 07:43
gde33|2thats just bullshitJun 21 07:43
gde33|2the goal is to make a profitJun 21 07:43
cubexyzI don't trust big pharma eitherJun 21 07:43
oiaohmThere is a problem people like you say it about profit.Jun 21 07:43
gde33|2no you are the problem ;)Jun 21 07:43
oiaohmcubexyz: vaccines in Australia are checked by the ciscro why big pharma is not trusted either.Jun 21 07:44
gde33|2if you want to do something about infectious diseases you should start at the airportJun 21 07:44
gde33|2we need 14 day quarantineJun 21 07:44
gde33|2to prevent real diseases from spreading rather than imaginary onesJun 21 07:45
cubexyzjohnson and johnson sold pills that did nothingJun 21 07:45
cubexyzit's well documentedJun 21 07:45
gde33|2if we are so interested in consumer health we should make better food standardsJun 21 07:45
cubexyzso of course don't trust big pharma Jun 21 07:45
gde33|2if we are so interested in consumer health we could make exersize mandatoryJun 21 07:46
gde33|2there was some research that showed that you start dieing when you sit more than 1 hour at a timeJun 21 07:47
oiaohmgde33|2: everything you discribed is worthless against pandamic class viruses.Jun 21 07:47
oiaohmPlease note pandamic class include messiles and the common cold.Jun 21 07:47
gde33|2you mean to say pepople are not flying diseases around?Jun 21 07:47
oiaohmgde33|2: pandamic class diseases travel by birds.Jun 21 07:47
oiaohmSo controlling airports don't work.Jun 21 07:48
oiaohmYes airports we have just speed it up a bit.Jun 21 07:48
gde33|2sick birds dont fly from saudi arabia to korea in 1 dayJun 21 07:48
oiaohmpandamic diseases like messiles don't make the birds sick.Jun 21 07:49
gde33|2we have so much air travel that any real disease will be all over the globe the same weekJun 21 07:49
gde33|2btw you know how easy it is to get a ghost writer and a doctor to publish a study for big pharma?Jun 21 07:51
gde33|2we need to find ways to make research independent from profitJun 21 07:51
gde33|2and get rid of all patentsJun 21 07:51
gde33|2intelectual propertyJun 21 07:51
gde33|2exploitation rights aka usuryJun 21 07:51
gde33|2did MS just get a patent for turning film into 3d objects?Jun 21 07:52
gde33|2lol?Jun 21 07:52
gde33|2all our hardware full of backdoors?Jun 21 07:53
gde33|2lol?Jun 21 07:53
oiaohmI really hate listerning to people who don't understand viruses.Jun 21 07:53
oiaohmSome else no virus ever gets around the world in the same week.Jun 21 07:53
oiaohmTurns out to spreed they require the right weather conditions.Jun 21 07:53
gde33|2people working at bio weapon labs report that things regularly escape containmentJun 21 07:54
gde33|2we need to shut that down tooJun 21 07:54
oiaohmgde33|2: guess how many of those escapes of containment have end up causing illness.Jun 21 07:55
oiaohm1 in 10000 in factJun 21 07:55
gde33|2there was a lab in russia where the US and Russia joined forces in creating airborn ebolaJun 21 07:55
gde33|2they are under non disclosure, you have no data about what goes onJun 21 07:56
gde33|2we do have one case of a russian doctor getting infected with ebola long after that lab was shut downJun 21 07:56
oiaohmReally we are starting to understand why that happened gde33|2Jun 21 07:57
oiaohmWitht he russian docter having ebola.Jun 21 07:57
gde33|2you have not provided any excuse why we need mega death reseachJun 21 07:57
oiaohmWe wish we new why sooner.Jun 21 07:57
oiaohmit was solves this year gde33|2Jun 21 07:57
gde33|2how do we tell it was not some fancy cover story?Jun 21 07:57
oiaohmA usa doctor returns from area treating ebola and declared clear and the infection is found hiding in one of his eyes.Jun 21 07:58
gde33|2it is also known that there was a US ebola research lab in africa in the epicenter of the outbreakJun 21 07:58
gde33|2and conspiracy theories about testing in the wildJun 21 07:58
oiaohmYes that russia doctor had gone blind in one eye and no one knew that was a ebola symtom.Jun 21 07:58
gde33|2did he return on the back of a bird?Jun 21 07:59
oiaohmgde33|2: usa doctor had returned by boat.Jun 21 07:59
gde33|2but on a serious note, why MEGA DEATH projects?Jun 21 07:59
oiaohmIt took 28 months for the infection to show.Jun 21 07:59
oiaohmSo 16 days is not enough to block ebola.Jun 21 08:00
gde33|2nice incubation timeJun 21 08:00
gde33|2it doesnt spread so fast if it takes that long to get illJun 21 08:00
gde33|2it wont kill everyone before we can develop a cureJun 21 08:00
oiaohm28 months zero simtoms.Jun 21 08:00
oiaohmWith infection hidding inside eyeball.Jun 21 08:01
gde33|2things that manifest in 14 days are the most dangerousJun 21 08:01
gde33|2again, why MEGA DEATH projects? are we mad?Jun 21 08:01
oiaohmebola normally manifest inside 14 days.Jun 21 08:01
oiaohmIt just has a trick where it can take a huge amount of time longer.Jun 21 08:01
oiaohmand ebola is most like not the only virus with tricks like this.Jun 21 08:02
gde33|2Dr Strecker shows how engineered diseases are differentJun 21 08:03
gde33|2facinating stuffJun 21 08:03
oiaohmAny virus with rapid spreading and good hidding about the only way to win will be vaccunes.Jun 21 08:03
gde33|2naturally evolved diseases change in stepsJun 21 08:03
gde33|2engineered diseases have all the working components of more than 1 type of existing diseasesJun 21 08:03
gde33|2fully evolovedJun 21 08:03
gde33|2I see nothing wrong with Rife's research.Jun 21 08:04
gde33|2I think the claim that there would be physcial forms not receptive to resonance is completely outlandish from a physics perspective.Jun 21 08:05
oiaohmgde33|2: do you know where messels goes to hide.Jun 21 08:06
gde33|2the outlandish claim is already completely falsified by MRIJun 21 08:06
oiaohmgde33|2: inside the brain.Jun 21 08:06
gde33|2do you know all disease particles are exactly the same shape?Jun 21 08:06
oiaohmNo they are not gde33|2Jun 21 08:07
gde33|2their size is consistent enough for a single disease to have the same resonant frequenciesJun 21 08:07
oiaohmebola is a different shape to everything else because it so huge.Jun 21 08:08
oiaohmSame with rabbies releated diseases compared to everything else.Jun 21 08:08
gde33|2but I'm sure 90 years of research can just be falsified with a claim from ignoranceJun 21 08:08
oiaohmgde33|2: you are made the wrong claim.Jun 21 08:08
gde33|2I mean a single diseasesJun 21 08:09
oiaohmHIV you must skip because it multates so much.Jun 21 08:09
gde33|2your imagination is no substitute for researchJun 21 08:10
oiaohmThis is not my imaginationJun 21 08:10
gde33|2it may very well be easy to cure if there was serious research Jun 21 08:10
oiaohmThe research you are refering to focused on the common cold.Jun 21 08:10
oiaohmAnd that famaly of viruses.Jun 21 08:10
oiaohmThe bad news is when taken to other classes of viruses it turned out not to be true.Jun 21 08:11
gde33|2bullshit mkayJun 21 08:11
oiaohmIf the disease particles remain the same depends on the viruses multation rate.Jun 21 08:13
oiaohmebola, HIV and rabibies class all have high multation rates.Jun 21 08:13
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oiaohmgde33|2: turned out the common cold was not the fastest at multation.Jun 21 08:14
oiaohmgde33|2: fairlly much with diseases as soon as a person says x covers all cases you know they have got something wrong.Jun 21 08:16
gde33|2you are not looking for answers, you are looking for problemsJun 21 08:21
oiaohmTo form a answer you have to understand the facts.Jun 21 08:22
gde33|2you have your facts confused with stuff you've made upJun 21 08:23
oiaohmI grew up in an areas with Australian bat lyssavirus  or in otherwords Australian rabies virus.   No one has died from it recently but it does not help that it can kill you in 21 days or take 10 years+Jun 21 08:24
oiaohmSo yes in school we did a lot of virus research.Jun 21 08:24
gde33|2ill be quite, you reminded me that these things should not be discussed in public. I should have known better.Jun 21 08:26
gde33|2my appoligiesJun 21 08:26
oiaohmgde33|2: do you know the only way if you get infected with  Australian bat lyssavirus to live it is have a vaccuineJun 21 08:26
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oiaohmgde33|2: its not that these things should not be discussed in public but the problem here is you were not aware of all the complexities.Jun 21 08:28
oiaohmThe idea of no vaccine is not a valid path.   There could be over usage of vaccine and lack of testing before giving vaccines.Jun 21 08:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch Gets Browser, Content Hub, andJun 21 13:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Purism crowd-funding Librem 13 Linux laptop,Jun 21 13:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     When You Use http://t.co/jwVCnLrA16,Jun 21 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | GoogleJun 21 22:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.google.com) You Use LinuxJun 21 22:26
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schestowitz>Jun 21 23:13
schestowitz> http://news.softpedia.com/news/systemd-221-Adds-an-Alternative-Very-Efficient-D-Bus-Client-Library-484819.shtmlJun 21 23:13
schestowitz>Jun 21 23:13
schestowitz> still adding features, will it ever hit alpha stage?Jun 21 23:13
schestowitzhehe. Well, I now use it and not by choice...Jun 21 23:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Happy Birthday, Ubuntu MATE!Jun 21 23:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BlackBerry Venice and Prague rumors: Which oneJun 21 23:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HappyHappy Birthday, Ubuntu MATE!Jun 21 23:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/612756205967118336Jun 22 00:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz I can remember Govt people asking me about open source software. They didn't know what it was. Bit different now.Jun 22 00:00
schestowitzThey don't know what code is, just compu-huh (northern British accent)Jun 22 00:01
cubexyzthe average computer user seems to get less knowledgeable every yearJun 22 00:17
MinceRthe average human seems to get less intelligent every yearJun 22 00:18
cubexyzQueen Mary College in London did some excellent work on early UnixJun 22 00:21
cubexyzaround 1980Jun 22 00:21
cubexyzthis was clearly before Microsoft got it's hooks into schoolsJun 22 00:21
razielle_tzuof course the average user gets less intellegent every year, they have to know less about everything, even the programs on their computer, every yearJun 22 00:21
razielle_tzuthey just have to know where/when to point and clickJun 22 00:22
cubexyzyes, we talked about point-n-grunt users in the 80's :)Jun 22 00:22
cubexyzI'm studying the QMC code and some of it compiles and runs in Unix v5Jun 22 00:23
cubexyzwhich means that they probably were using Unix v6 (a lot of that will work in v5)Jun 22 00:23
razielle_tzui'm aware, even though i didn't really use a computer until the A500+ in the 90s. i prefer using a terminal but can see the advantages of a gui for some thingsJun 22 00:24
cubexyzsome of my customers voiced interest in learning "The Command Line" but then never didJun 22 00:24
razielle_tzuthe command line can mean so many things thoughJun 22 00:24
cubexyzWaterloo had Sun4's and Next boxes in the late 1980sJun 22 00:25
cubexyzI bought my first 500 in 1987Jun 22 00:25
razielle_tzuuntil i was about 14 i primarily used the amiga range despite models after the A1200 being sold hereJun 22 00:25
cubexyzI still use the Amiga, about 3 times a monthJun 22 00:26
cubexyzI do quite a lot of retro-computingJun 22 00:26
razielle_tzui still have two working A600s and am tempted to set a laptop up with the IcarOS systemJun 22 00:26
cubexyzwell they wanted to know a bit about what I was doing on their linux boxes, a few customers had thoseJun 22 00:27
razielle_tzucoolJun 22 00:27
cubexyzdifferent generation, completely different perspective on things (older gen)Jun 22 00:27
razielle_tzuyeahJun 22 00:27
razielle_tzui'm 29 but a lot of how i do things is constantly compared to people older that have been around computers longerJun 22 00:28
cubexyza lot of the older ones started very late on computers, that's the thingJun 22 00:28
cubexyzone had the misfortune of starting on windows 1.0Jun 22 00:29
razielle_tzuwowJun 22 00:29
cubexyzshe's 90 years old :)Jun 22 00:29
cubexyzbut she also used Xerox StarJun 22 00:29
razielle_tzucool, i work in a charity computer club and our oldest member is 94 but he users an android tabletJun 22 00:29
razielle_tzu*uusesJun 22 00:30
razielle_tzuffsJun 22 00:30
razielle_tzuUSESJun 22 00:30
razielle_tzuthere we goJun 22 00:30
cubexyzshe talks about the 1930s like it was yesterdayJun 22 00:30
cubexyzquite a history lessonJun 22 00:30
cubexyzso she knows about BC (Before Computers)Jun 22 00:31
razielle_tzu:)Jun 22 00:31
razielle_tzui love talking to the older members but because of my age and what i do for the club they can be... reluctant to talk about almost anythingJun 22 00:32
cubexyzI'm glad the younger ones are using Linux, in the 1990s it was rather a dark agesJun 22 00:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Distro Is Getting Linux Kernel 4.0.5Jun 22 00:34
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razielle_tzuit wasJun 22 00:34
razielle_tzufor a lot of areas it still is though, they only know of windows or macJun 22 00:34
cubexyzI tried to get into Linux in 1994, but I didn't stick with itJun 22 00:34
cubexyzwell, early 1990s I saw _some_ amiga activityJun 22 00:35
cubexyzbut it was definitely in declineJun 22 00:35
cubexyzbefore Linux I was into Xenix and VenixJun 22 00:35
razielle_tzui always kept an eye out for alternatives to windows, i loved amigas but after commodore went bust everywhere i looked it was either windows or macs and i didn't like either.... then i got online and found linux xDJun 22 00:35
cubexyzamiga still had one big problem, workbench was closed sourceJun 22 00:36
cubexyzfor the early golden age you have to go all the way back to the 1970sJun 22 00:36
razielle_tzutrueJun 22 00:37
cubexyz1970s is similar to now actuallyJun 22 00:37
razielle_tzui like what the icaros team have done with the amiga apis thoughJun 22 00:37
cubexyzwell they got to add MMU support to AROS stillJun 22 00:44
razielle_tzutrue but afaik it's been worked onJun 22 00:44
cubexyzAmiga was the first m68k computer to get a Linux portJun 22 00:46
cubexyzI never tried it thoughJun 22 00:46
razielle_tzume neither, wanted to but it was my dad's amiga and when i finally got my own i couldn't source it to try itJun 22 00:47
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cubexyzit's a pity, but the old amigas are just too oldJun 22 01:03
cubexyzI just run amigados 1.3 on my old 500Jun 22 01:04
razielle_tzui still have workbench but prefer using hte shell to alter the intro screens for my fave games on itJun 22 01:04
cubexyzanother big difficulty was no ethernet on the 500Jun 22 01:05
razielle_tzuyeahJun 22 01:05
razielle_tzuhell in a cupboard i have a zx spectrum, i just have no tapedeck for itJun 22 01:06
cubexyzyou're British? :)Jun 22 01:06
razielle_tzuyeahJun 22 01:07
cubexyzwe used mostly Commodore in CanadaJun 22 01:07
cubexyzso I still have a vic-20Jun 22 01:07
MinceRi have a zx spectrum despite not being british :>Jun 22 01:07
razielle_tzuniceJun 22 01:07
cubexyzcan't do much with it though :)Jun 22 01:07
razielle_tzutrue but still, niceJun 22 01:07
razielle_tzui want a c64 just becauseJun 22 01:08
cubexyzI should get a 1541 sometimeJun 22 01:09
cubexyzbut mostly in my sparetime I hack on PDP-11 Jun 22 01:09
razielle_tzucool, i haven't done any hacking in ages. should rectify thatJun 22 01:10
cubexyzit's a pity, I thought the amiga 500 was so futuristic when I first got oneJun 22 01:11
cubexyznow it's a bit of a clunkJun 22 01:11
razielle_tzuit is but it's still lots of funJun 22 01:12
razielle_tzucannon fodder, chaos engine and speedball 2 are three of my fave games stillJun 22 01:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interview with Gervase Markham of MozillaJun 22 01:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Interview with Gervase Markham of Mozilla | Tux MachinesJun 22 01:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Apologizes for Linux KernelJun 22 01:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Regression in Ubuntu, Patch ReleasedJun 22 01:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Apologizes for Linux Kernel Regression in Ubuntu, Patch Released | Tux MachinesJun 22 01:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MParted 13.0 Beta Is Out for Testing, Based onJun 22 01:19
TweetTuxMachines                 4MLinux 13.0 and GParted 0.22.0Jun 22 01:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MParted 13.0 Beta Is Out for Testing, Based on 4MLinux 13.0 and GParted 0.22.0 | Tux MachinesJun 22 01:19
cubexyzMichael L Hitch wrote an GVP SCSI driver for MinixJun 22 01:21
cubexyzI own a GVP A500-HD+ so ... someday I'll try to get Minix working on the 500Jun 22 01:22
razielle_tzusounds like a planJun 22 01:23
razielle_tzui want to pick up both of my a600s and see what i can do with themJun 22 01:23
cubexyzAmigaMinix 1.5.10.2 was the last versionJun 22 01:28
cubexyzit's faster than NetBSD, or Amix at leastJun 22 01:29
razielle_tzufair, only my amigas have a flopppy drive now and i no longer have the external cd drive for the amigas :(Jun 22 01:30
razielle_tzuthe a600 can't take a hdd without heavy mods iircJun 22 01:30
cubexyzget one of those CF IDE hard drives...Jun 22 01:30
cubexyzeasyJun 22 01:30
razielle_tzui might have one i can use in the club actually...Jun 22 01:30
razielle_tzustill need a way of getting the os on to it thoughJun 22 01:31
cubexyzamigakit has ready-to-go ones with workbench 3.1 on itJun 22 01:32
cubexyzhttp://www.amigakit.co.ukJun 22 01:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amigakit.co.uk | AmigaKit.co.ukJun 22 01:33
razielle_tzuthe only preinstalled i see is WB2.1Jun 22 01:33
cubexyz4GB CF IDE hard disk drive for a600Jun 22 01:34
razielle_tzuthat said... i have a larger CFcard i could use if i just bought the adaptor and partitioned it myselfJun 22 01:34
cubexyzok, well you could probably generate a set of workbench 3.1 floppy disksJun 22 01:35
razielle_tzui have the workbench floppies with one of the amigas in storageJun 22 01:35
razielle_tzui have close to 200 floppies, including some boxsets of gamesJun 22 01:36
cubexyzI seem to remember the amiga could read IBM 720k disks with special softwareJun 22 01:36
cubexyza bit awkward but faster than null modemJun 22 01:37
razielle_tzuyeah or a bit of tape over the hole in a standard 1.44MB disk would make an amiga treat it like a standard density floppyJun 22 01:37
razielle_tzuxDJun 22 01:37
razielle_tzui still remember some tricks like that :)Jun 22 01:37
cubexyzwell... I try to avoid thatJun 22 01:37
razielle_tzui do too but there was a point when i needed a floppy and the only ones available were from my dad's 486Jun 22 01:38
razielle_tzuheh, i made my dad get me a cd-drive because there was a special edition of brutal deluxe availableJun 22 01:40
razielle_tzufun timesJun 22 01:40
razielle_tzu:'(Jun 22 01:45
razielle_tzuthe hardware/system page on amigakit is emptyJun 22 01:45
razielle_tzuunless i want an amiga1000 anywayJun 22 01:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NetBSD 7.0 RC1 Adds New Intel/Radeon DRMJun 22 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, Lua Scripting & MoreJun 22 02:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetBSD 7.0 RC1 Adds New Intel/Radeon DRM Support, Lua Scripting & More | Tux MachinesJun 22 02:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker 1.7.0 Open Source Linux Container EngineJun 22 02:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Adds ZFS Support http://t.co/6KsAtLAAHXJun 22 02:01
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/microsoft-website-dedicated-to-online-privacy-gets-hacked/Jun 22 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Microsoft website dedicated to online privacy gets hacked | Ars TechnicaJun 22 02:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/612757705065934848Jun 22 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Yes. Of course. Events like http://t.co/2rnot6fGBA which I put together don't exist. Not British you know.....Jun 22 04:10
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CKRISH777/status/612793812457521152Jun 22 04:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CKRISH777: 31/8/2010couldn't walktalk/feel limbshandcuffed 2 bed thenassaulted by security1/9 before taken2Hartington2b bullied https://t.co/9MaQeQwtTYJun 22 04:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Man who cannot walk, talk or feed himself told to attend Job Centre interview http://t.co/b8OyEyBPHD #uk #austerityJun 22 04:11
cubexyzat least they apologizedJun 22 04:14
cubexyzwhen all you can do is blink to communicate...Jun 22 04:14
cubexyzthere was some way to get Unix system call support on amiga, I'm trying to remember what it was calledJun 22 04:15
oiaohmcubexyz: I can remember the c64 one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnixJun 22 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | LUnix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJun 22 04:19
razielle_tzuwe were talking about the later models, like the A500Jun 22 04:20
oiaohmhttp://amix.failsure.net/tiki-index.phpJun 22 04:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-amix.failsure.net | The Very Unofficial Commodore Amiga UNIX (AMIX) Wiki | HomePageJun 22 04:20
oiaohmThank you google.Jun 22 04:20
cubexyzsomething generated by MKMK v6.55Jun 22 04:20
oiaohmAMIXJun 22 04:20
cubexyzSAS C compiler maybeJun 22 04:21
cubexyzAMIX would only run on Amiga 3000 Jun 22 04:22
oiaohmcubexyz: that is wrong.   Amiga 2500UX and the 3000UX both run AMIXJun 22 04:27
cubexyzall I can remember now is that PDP-11 APL was ported to Amiga (even Amiga 500)Jun 22 04:27
razielle_tzucool cubexyz Jun 22 04:27
cubexyzbut it needed a special library to support the needed Unix system callsJun 22 04:28
razielle_tzumakes senseJun 22 04:28
oiaohmhttp://home.arcor.de/kickstart/TKA/Tutorials/AmigaMINIX/aminix.html   Amiga 500 and 2000 are minixJun 22 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-home.arcor.de | The Amiga MINIX PageJun 22 04:29
cubexyzSAS/Lattice C but I forgot which versionJun 22 04:29
razielle_tzui'll find out when i have them here to play withJun 22 04:29
oiaohmIe LUnix is c64 and c128 then you go aminix for Amiga 500 to 2000 then 2500UX to 3000UX is AMIXJun 22 04:30
cubexyznone of those had anything to do with each other thoughJun 22 04:31
cubexyzthere's no progression from Lunix -> Minix -> AmixJun 22 04:31
oiaohmNo progression between different versions was nothing strange in the age of unix.Jun 22 04:32
cubexyzthere's a clear progression from Unix v1 to v7 at Bell LabsJun 22 04:33
cubexyzbut after that, yeah it's a rat's nestJun 22 04:33
oiaohmNote Lunix part of the rat's nest is before Unix v4 is released that AMix is based on.Jun 22 04:34
cubexyzMinix was based on Unix v7 system calls thoughJun 22 04:34
oiaohmYep.Jun 22 04:34
oiaohmTime line Lunix aMinux and Amix its screw balled.Jun 22 04:34
oiaohmUnix V7 is before Unix V4Jun 22 04:35
cubexyzwell Amix was first, then the Minix port to Amiga in 1991, then Lunix in 1993Jun 22 04:35
cubexyzas far as I can tellJun 22 04:35
cubexyzUnix System V Release 4 not Unix v4 :)Jun 22 04:36
oiaohmI hate all the versioning around Unix it gets confusing as well with all the overlaps.Jun 22 04:36
cubexyzUnix v4 is...1973 or 1974Jun 22 04:36
cubexyzalso sysvinit was from System III :)Jun 22 04:38
oiaohmcubexyz:  Mon Sep 17 23:12:57 1990  Minix 1.5 that was aminix was 1990 as well.Jun 22 04:38
oiaohmSo both amix and aminix are the same year.Jun 22 04:39
cubexyzwell wikipedia could be wrongJun 22 04:39
oiaohmI pulled that data from the mailing list annoncing release.Jun 22 04:40
oiaohmdata/dateJun 22 04:40
cubexyzoh ok, then that's probably more accurate Jun 22 04:40
oiaohmIt was 1991 finanial year for Minux and 1990 finanical year for amix ie amix was released at the start of 1990 and aminix was released at the end of 1990Jun 22 04:41
oiaohmSo I can understand how wikipedia people could get it wrong.Jun 22 04:41
cubexyzthe Minix developers wouldn't have had access to AT&T Unix System V source, hence Minix was not derived from itJun 22 04:41
cubexyzbesides, no MMU support in Minix 1.5Jun 22 04:42
oiaohmI think minix 2.0 dropped amiga support.Jun 22 04:42
cubexyzyes, a pityJun 22 04:43
cubexyzbut Amiga was an orphaned platformJun 22 04:43
razielle_tzuyeahJun 22 04:43
razielle_tzucubexyz: it's been great talking about this but i'm off to bed now, it's almost 5amJun 22 04:44
cubexyzrazielle_tzu, ok goodnight :)Jun 22 04:44
razielle_tzunight :)Jun 22 04:44
cubexyzyou can even port some parts of Unix v5 to modern LinuxJun 22 04:45
cubexyzalso go the other way: Linux stuff can be backported to Unix v5Jun 22 04:45
oiaohmcubexyz: https://www.debian.org/ports/m68k/  Debian support for amiga ends with version 4Jun 22 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.debian.org/ports/m68k/ )Jun 22 04:46
cubexyzok found it :)Jun 22 04:47
cubexyzamiunix.lib was what I was thinking aboutJun 22 04:47
cubexyzSAS/C versions 6.3 and newerJun 22 04:48
cubexyzetch, yesJun 22 04:49
cubexyznot too oldJun 22 04:50
cubexyzso much easier just to use PDP-11/Vax Unix rather than getting it working on AmigaJun 22 04:54
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DaemonFChttp://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewitem.asp?itemid=22351310Jun 22 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.shopgoodwill.com | shopgoodwill.com - #22351310 - HP Pavilion dv7-1175nr Laptop - 6/26/2015 7:11:00 PMJun 22 05:37
DaemonFCGoodwill is wiping Windows off of donated laptops and installing Ubuntu.Jun 22 05:38
DaemonFChttp://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewitem.asp?itemid=22351310Jun 22 05:39
DaemonFCwhoopsJun 22 05:39
DaemonFCI wonder why they're doing that. You don't lose the Windows license when you sell the computer.Jun 22 05:40
cubexyztechnically I don't think you can transfer the windows license to another personJun 22 05:41
cubexyzbut typically I imagine you canJun 22 05:45
cubexyzthe license is tied to the computer and people do moveJun 22 05:46
cubexyzbut the XP license might not be too useful Jun 22 05:47
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cubexyzmore microsoft shillingJun 22 08:07
cubexyzI bet I only know the tip of the icebergJun 22 08:07
cubexyzhttp://www.theverge.com/2014/1/21/5331430/microsoft-machinima-xbox-one-youtube-promotions-response Jun 22 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft and Machinima brush off Xbox One shilling controversy (update) | The VergeJun 22 08:07
cubexyzthey broke FTC rules Jun 22 08:08
cubexyzCanada News programs shill for microsoft tooJun 22 08:09
cubexyzjust a foul marketing company reallyJun 22 08:11
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schestowitz>>> >> http://news.softpedia.com/news/systemd-221-Adds-an-Alternative-Very-Efficient-D-Bus-Client-Library-484819.shtmlJun 22 08:44
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schestowitz>>> >>Jun 22 08:44
schestowitz>>> >> still adding features, will it ever hit alpha stage?Jun 22 08:44
schestowitz>> > hehe. Well, I now use it and not by choice...Jun 22 08:44
schestowitz> Few if any use it by choice.  However the Stockholm Syndrome is strongJun 22 08:44
schestowitz> in many groups.  And anything other than public praise is not allowed byJun 22 08:44
schestowitz> those in control of lists and forums:Jun 22 08:44
schestowitz>Jun 22 08:44
schestowitz> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/06/msg01102.htmlJun 22 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry PiJun 22 08:44
schestowitzOh, how that reminds me of Mono. We're back to 2005...Jun 22 08:44
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DaemonFChttp://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/12/is-devuan-really-good-idea.htmlJun 22 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Is Devuan really a good idea? « Everyday Linux UserJun 22 08:57
DaemonFCNot really. Not that this ever stopped anyone.Jun 22 08:57
DaemonFCMaintaining a distribution without systemd is going to get increasingly hairy.Jun 22 08:57
cubexyzof course the fork is a good ideaJun 22 08:58
cubexyzsystemd is awfulJun 22 08:58
cubexyzthey think they know better than 30 years of unix practisesJun 22 08:58
XRevan86DaemonFC: If they're up to this, why not?Jun 22 08:58
DaemonFCIt remains to be seen whether they really are.Jun 22 08:59
cubexyz1972 to 2007, actually it's more like 35 yearsJun 22 09:00
cubexyzit's not that hard to come up with new init systems, that's why there's quite a number of themJun 22 09:01
cubexyzall part of userlandJun 22 09:01
DaemonFCYeah, but most of them aren't really used by anyone.Jun 22 09:01
XRevan86Only three apart from systemd can be taken seriously.Jun 22 09:02
XRevan86four including Upstart :)Jun 22 09:02
XRevan86OpenRC, plain sysvinit and runitJun 22 09:03
cubexyzwell, and pre-sysvinit of courseJun 22 09:05
cubexyzI doubt many people remember thatJun 22 09:06
XRevan86cubexyz: init with a single script?Jun 22 09:06
cubexyzsureJun 22 09:06
XRevan86cubexyz: People remember that.Jun 22 09:07
XRevan86It's usually called BSD init.Jun 22 09:07
cubexyzactually I was referring to Bell Labs init, but good pointJun 22 09:08
XRevan86cubexyz: But this conception is flawful and will not be able to survive in a modern world in any way.Jun 22 09:10
cubexyzflawful?Jun 22 09:10
XRevan86runit is simple too but doesn't require user to put stuff into init file after installing daemons.Jun 22 09:11
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XRevan86> Linux 4.1 releasedJun 22 09:12
XRevan86Oh my. Time flies.Jun 22 09:12
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schestowitz>>> older:Jun 22 09:15
schestowitz>>> >>Jun 22 09:15
schestowitz>>> >> http://ftp.sunet.se/news.htmlJun 22 09:15
schestowitz>>> >>Jun 22 09:15
schestowitz>>> >> :(Jun 22 09:15
schestowitz>> > Never heard of itJun 22 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed to connect to 2001:6b0:19::64: Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ http://ftp.sunet.se/news.html )Jun 22 09:15
schestowitz>> > Jun 22 09:15
schestowitz>> > Jun 22 09:15
schestowitz> It was the major nordic mirror site.  I suspect this means a generalJun 22 09:15
schestowitz> decline of mirror sites and a centralization in services like Github orJun 22 09:15
schestowitz> the late Sourceforge.Jun 22 09:15
XRevan86Unconscience masses of GNU/Linux are unconscience, too.Jun 22 09:16
XRevan86That's a sad revelation of the past year.Jun 22 09:16
cubexyzI try to archive anything interestingJun 22 09:16
cubexyzI'll check out runitJun 22 09:23
XRevan86cubexyz: On void linux? :)Jun 22 09:24
cubexyzwell I don't know anything about void linux but I think runit runs on a few different operating systemsJun 22 09:26
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XRevan86runit website says there is also DragoraJun 22 09:28
cubexyzhmmm, void linux is one of the musl distros, interestingJun 22 09:29
XRevan86cubexyz: Main libc is glibc.Jun 22 09:29
XRevan86at least for nowJun 22 09:30
XRevan86(musl is in a separate branch)Jun 22 09:30
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oiaohmReally kill process 1 to shutdown is such a historic hack its not funny.Jun 22 09:53
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cubexyzhangup signal re-reads the ttys fileJun 22 09:54
cubexyzterminate was for shutdownJun 22 09:54
cubexyzjust kill 1Jun 22 09:54
oiaohmcubexyz: you have to look at init systems for the horible code they do so that process 1 can be replaced while running to keep systems secure.Jun 22 09:55
oiaohmOf course stop PID 1 the system will shutdown.Jun 22 09:55
cubexyze.g. kill 1 to go into single user mode then sync a few times then haltJun 22 09:55
cubexyzBell Labs Unix had halt... I'll have to check the source code for thatJun 22 09:56
cubexyzrather Bell Labs Unix v8 had haltJun 22 09:56
cubexyzkill 1 doesn't work on ancient Unix, e.g. it doesn't work in Unix v5Jun 22 09:57
cubexyzeach init was a different process and you had to kill them all!Jun 22 09:58
oiaohmOther thing to remember cgroups introduce the evil cgroup PID namespace.Jun 22 09:58
oiaohmSo PID 1 your process can see might not in fact be the PID1 the kernel respects.Jun 22 09:58
cubexyzit's OK if root kills PID 1 thoughJun 22 09:58
oiaohmYes the reason for kdbus talk so much.Jun 22 09:58
oiaohmcubexyz: root kills PID1 from inside a PID namespace nothing might happen because that PID 1 might have been process 10 000+ something.Jun 22 09:59
oiaohmYes cgroups add a complete new level of strange.Jun 22 10:00
cubexyzhalt used to call rebootJun 22 10:00
cubexyzand reboot calls reboot.sJun 22 10:01
oiaohmcubexyz: really this will get you.Jun 22 10:03
oiaohmhttp://linux.die.net/man/2/rebootJun 22 10:03
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oiaohmThe syscall to halt a Linux system is reboot cubexyzJun 22 10:03
oiaohmLINUX_REBOOT_CMD_HALT option on the reboot syscallJun 22 10:04
cubexyzit's different from Unix thoughJun 22 10:05
cubexyzin v8 the docs say "reboot system or halt processor"Jun 22 10:06
cubexyzLINUX_REBOOT_CMD_HALT would be the closest equivalentJun 22 10:06
cubexyzwhich you mentioned already :)Jun 22 10:07
cubexyzI might gravitate more over to OpenBSDJun 22 10:07
cubexyzI'm turning into a Unix traditionalist Jun 22 10:07
cubexyzI guess I'll use both, confusing though it isJun 22 10:08
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oiaohmcubexyz: look closer at that reboot function.   Yes don't check user that much but check that the function has been called with special values.Jun 22 10:56
cubexyzrom monitor if there is oneJun 22 10:57
cubexyzvax had thatJun 22 10:57
cubexyzLINUX_REBOOT_CMD_CAD_ON looks interesting tooJun 22 10:58
cubexyzCAD being ctrl-alt-delete Jun 22 10:59
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/612922676903059457Jun 22 11:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz YeahJun 22 11:03
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/612930606951989248Jun 22 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Wrong URL on this one. The correct one is http://t.co/MIW8S8EnPJ :DJun 22 11:32
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r_schestowitz> http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/06/16/cleveland-investigator-shoots-family-dog/28813497/Jun 22 11:45
r_schestowitz>Jun 22 11:45
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r_schestowitz> Labradors are mild and friendly in temperament, to a fault, and thenJun 22 11:45
r_schestowitz> there is the matter of the leash.Jun 22 11:45
r_schestowitzMy favourite type of dog.Jun 22 11:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat launches revamped in-memory data storeJun 22 12:02
TweetTuxMachines                 solution http://t.co/9dpoQ0fAIaJun 22 12:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat launches revamped in-memory data store solution | Tux MachinesJun 22 12:02
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r_schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6252290Jun 22 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft #dx11 now running on #gnu #linux (or soon) http://www.wine-reviews.net/2015/06/its-all-about-team-at-e3-super-bowl-of.htmlJun 22 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wine-reviews.net | Wine Reviews: It’s All About the Team at E3 The Super Bowl of Computer GamingJun 22 12:39
r_schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6252290Jun 22 12:39
r_schestowitz"Jun 22 12:39
r_schestowitz    a PC, a Mac, or a Linux computerJun 22 12:39
r_schestowitzSigh...Jun 22 12:39
r_schestowitz"Jun 22 12:39
r_schestowitzIf only we could intall Linux on PC...Jun 22 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat survey suggest 95% of containerJun 22 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 deployments will be on LinuxJun 22 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/OndMGvUFRk (www.linuxveda.com)Jun 22 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | Red Hat survey suggest 95% of container deployments will be on Linux - Linux VedaJun 22 12:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/612938644467372033Jun 22 12:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Chromebook replaced the MacBook Pro on myJun 22 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 desk http://t.co/n5RCvolOxn (www.zdnet.com)Jun 22 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | A Chromebook replaced the MacBook Pro on my desk | ZDNetJun 22 12:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/612941398069919744Jun 22 12:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MKVToolNix 8.0.0 Arrives as the Best OpenJun 22 13:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Software for Manipulating MKV FilesJun 22 13:30
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hMmtvKeb2M (news.softpedia.com)Jun 22 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MKVToolNix 8.0.0 Arrives as the Best Open Source Software for Manipulating MKV Files - SoftpediaJun 22 13:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/612952822028607489Jun 22 13:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vendetta Online 1.8.341 MMORPG Out Now withJun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Landscape Mode Support for AndroidJun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TH7YD3nxLo (news.softpedia.com)Jun 22 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vendetta Online 1.8.341 MMORPG Out Now with Landscape Mode Support for Android - SoftpediaJun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/612953770138447872Jun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat survey suggest 95% of containerJun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines                 deployments will be on LinuxJun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6TpWG1Y6WR (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/612960918058635264Jun 22 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat survey suggest 95% of container deployments will be on Linux | Tux MachinesJun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Chromebook replaced the MacBook Pro on myJun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines                 desk http://t.co/IcuLgNwIKoJun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 13:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/612960918859722753Jun 22 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Chromebook replaced the MacBook Pro on my desk | Tux MachinesJun 22 13:31
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/612957548195524608Jun 22 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Yes, but systemd doesn't try to openwash a closed environment, it's free from the outset.Jun 22 13:34
r_schestowitzTrueJun 22 13:34
MinceRyeah, lock-in and secret APIs are so freeJun 22 13:39
r_schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6252385Jun 22 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Meet Fedora 22 MATE-Compiz – Include Video Overview and Screenshots http://linuxscoop.com/video/fedora-22-mate-compiz #f22 #fedora #gnu #linuxJun 22 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxscoop.com | Meet Fedora 22 MATE-Compiz - Include Video Overview and Screenshots - Linux ScoopJun 22 13:47
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6252179Jun 22 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #AynRand killed the American dream: Our free-market economy only works for the 1 percent http://www.salon.com/2015/06/21/ayn_rand_killed_the_american_dream_our_free_market_economy_only_works_for_the_1_percent/ #greed and #egotismJun 22 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | Ayn Rand killed the American dream: Our free-market economy only works for the 1 percent - Salon.comJun 22 13:54
r_schestowitz"Jun 22 13:54
r_schestowitzAnd in her view, it was never supposed to work for anyone else. The rest of us are to be dependent on the 1 percent and thankful for whatever we get.Jun 22 13:54
r_schestowitzIn Atlas Shrugged, she even has a hero-pirate who robs from the poor in order to give to the rich. As if the operation of a market system of exchange didn't do that already.Jun 22 13:54
r_schestowitz"Jun 22 13:54
r_schestowitzSo it's like 1984, except unlike Blair, to her it's euphoriaJun 22 13:55
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__martin__"We also plan to submit an IETF RFC for the fan, for address expansion." - Mark ShuttleworthJun 22 15:08
MinceRfan?Jun 22 15:16
__martin__utilizing more ip's for one container interfaceJun 22 15:18
__martin__MinceR: how's your devuan setup? anything you had issues with?Jun 22 15:18
MinceRi have none, yetJun 22 15:19
MinceRi've only tried the valentine's day prealpha so farJun 22 15:19
MinceRwhen alpha2 was released, i was struggling with the memory use of my browser so i didn't create a devuan vm yetJun 22 15:20
__martin__what's your hw specs then?Jun 22 15:20
__martin__(production machine)Jun 22 15:20
__martin__"production" [sic]Jun 22 15:20
MinceRLenovo ThinkPad X220i Tablet (with 4GB RAM)Jun 22 15:22
__martin__made this tainted steam + nvidia gaming setup of it @ http://pastebin.com/sumfLJaDJun 22 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pastebin.com | 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS880 Host Bridge 00:02 - Pastebin.comJun 22 15:28
__martin__ignored the missing firmwre warning for rtl8168e-2.fw thouJun 22 15:29
__martin__rlt*Jun 22 15:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Env and Stacks Elections Interview with VáclavJun 22 18:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Pavlín (vpavlin) http://t.co/bvAIELIIiyJun 22 18:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 18:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw4s1Jun 22 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Env and Stacks Elections Interview with Václav Pavlín (vpavlin) | Tux MachinesJun 22 18:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony's super thin Android-powered 4K TVs willJun 22 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 start at $2,499 http://t.co/o2PDu8lzK1Jun 22 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theverge.com)Jun 22 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Sony's super thin Android-powered 4K TVs will start at $2,499 | The VergeJun 22 18:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat launches revamped in-memory data storeJun 22 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 solution http://t.co/OPwgJWQWURJun 22 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.cbronline.com)Jun 22 18:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw4vgJun 22 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | Red Hat launches revamped in-memory data store solution - Computer Business ReviewJun 22 18:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd "KDBUS support no longer optional.Jun 22 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 KDBUS support is now always built-in"Jun 22 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Q4BUNpNJGK (www.phoronix.com)Jun 22 18:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw4vhJun 22 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Systemd 221 Fixes Bugs, Wants Distributions To Start Shipping KDBUS - PhoronixJun 22 18:22
*TweetTuxMachines @prokopp favourited 'Red Hat launches revamped in-memory data store solution...'Jun 22 18:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Queue Spinlocks Coming For Linux 4.2 KernelJun 22 18:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SMwhLrqL2e (www.phoronix.com)Jun 22 18:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw4x4Jun 22 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Queue Spinlocks Coming For Linux 4.2 Kernel - PhoronixJun 22 18:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Last Chance to Get Some Awesome Linux Games inJun 22 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 the Steam Summer Sale http://t.co/bV4fFX7CTyJun 22 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jun 22 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Last Chance to Get Some Awesome Linux Games in the Steam Summer Sale - SoftpediaJun 22 18:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw56gJun 22 18:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Some grassroots drive Linux container adoptionJun 22 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WGmgdSuegv (www.theregister.co.uk)Jun 22 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Not in front of the CIO: grassroots drive Linux container adoption • The RegisterJun 22 18:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw56hJun 22 18:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Datawise simplifies networking for LinuxJun 22 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 containers http://t.co/Q7tGqIgOMAJun 22 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fierceenterprisecommunications.com | Datawise.io simplifies networking for Linux containers - FierceEnterpriseCommunicationsJun 22 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.fierceenterprisecommunications.com)Jun 22 18:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The 5 Best Linux Servers for Small BusinessJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/s4mth0qS7KJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.smallbusinesscomputing.com)Jun 22 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smallbusinesscomputing.com | Linux Servers for Small BusinessJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw5mqJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Asking the wrong question: Windows vs Linux:Jun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 what's the best operating system?Jun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/UaAOZ5ar2B (www.itpro.co.uk)Jun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw5mrJun 22 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Windows vs Linux: what's the best operating system? | IT PROJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Entroware's Apollo Is a Superb White LaptopJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Powered by Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATEJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QrwXGrBVxD (news.softpedia.com)Jun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw5msJun 22 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Entroware's Apollo Is a Superb White Laptop Powered by Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATE - SoftpediaJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Windows vs Linux: what's the best operatingJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 system? http://t.co/GfhLitUBJiJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw5mtJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The 5 Best Linux Servers for Small BusinessJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/D803769xzk (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 19:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Entroware's Apollo Is a Superb White LaptopJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Powered by Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATEJun 22 19:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AaXL7vyTlk (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows vs Linux: what's the best operating system? | Tux MachinesJun 22 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 5 Best Linux Servers for Small Business | Tux MachinesJun 22 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware's Apollo Is a Superb White Laptop Powered by Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATE | Tux MachinesJun 22 19:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SUSE Elevates Docker in SUSE Linux EnterpriseJun 22 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Server 12 http://t.co/PZR8Z8d2D3Jun 22 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Elevates Docker in SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 | Tux MachinesJun 22 20:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mw62mJun 22 20:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The 5 Best Linux Servers for Small BusinessJun 22 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oojHe8a7Rt (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 5 Best Linux Servers for Small Business | Tux MachinesJun 22 20:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Windows vs Linux: what's the best operatingJun 22 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 system? http://t.co/gp47uoETHcJun 22 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows vs Linux: what's the best operating system? | Tux MachinesJun 22 20:47
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/613047671113297921Jun 22 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz I would have added also the Collax Business Server to replace MS SBS & firewall: http://t.co/VEV0jaOSeM #linux #server #SMEJun 22 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.omnis-systems.com | Collax Business Server - Omnis Systems Ltd - Scalable and affordable Open Source and Linux based solutionsJun 22 20:57
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/613050961276366848Jun 22 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz He also posits the chrome is the best browser despite," it’s noting down all our information like an obsessive ex"Jun 22 20:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/613068681443209216Jun 22 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Bread leavening proves useful for energy storage @ruskin147 @schestowitz http://t.co/eXhY5S41RWJun 22 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/2015/06/bread-leavening-hierarchically-porous-carbons-supercapacitor#.VYhkFLJApjg.twitter )Jun 22 20:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Entroware's Apollo Is a Superb White LaptopJun 22 21:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Powered by Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATEJun 22 21:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/HSo4cVaZ3H (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 21:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware's Apollo Is a Superb White Laptop Powered by Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATE | Tux MachinesJun 22 21:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu: Introducing the Fan – simpler containerJun 22 21:02
TweetTuxMachines                 networking http://t.co/gTyQ9c5EeIJun 22 21:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Introducing the Fan – simpler container networking | Tux MachinesJun 22 21:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Look at Mageia 5’s MagicJun 22 21:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Of5vmig1pY (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 21:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Look at Mageia 5’s Magic | Tux MachinesJun 22 21:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Freescale i.MX7 SoCs take on low-powerJun 22 21:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux IoT http://t.co/IGtQ51eQAZJun 22 21:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Freescale i.MX7 SoCs take on low-power Linux IoT | Tux MachinesJun 22 21:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source VR comes to AndroidJun 22 21:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/EKjVeWhXJ3 (www.itweb.co.za)Jun 22 21:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za | Open Source VR comes to Android | ITWebJun 22 21:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu: Introducing the Fan – simpler containerJun 22 21:28
TweetTuxMachines                 networking http://t.co/b16j3Zig91Jun 22 21:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.markshuttleworth.com)Jun 22 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.markshuttleworth.com | Mark Shuttleworth » Blog Archive » Introducing the Fan – simpler container networkingJun 22 21:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Look at Mageia 5’s MagicJun 22 21:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ifCPXcWdWd (fossforce.com)Jun 22 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | A Look at Mageia 5's Magic | FOSS ForceJun 22 21:28
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6252179Jun 22 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #AynRand killed the American dream: Our free-market economy only works for the 1 percent http://www.salon.com/2015/06/21/ayn_rand_killed_the_american_dream_our_free_market_economy_only_works_for_the_1_percent/ #greed and #egotismJun 22 21:38
r_schestowitz"if you look into her biography it's quite obvious where her attitude comes from"Jun 22 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | Ayn Rand killed the American dream: Our free-market economy only works for the 1 percent - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/mw6gt ]Jun 22 21:38
r_schestowitz"Jun 22 21:38
r_schestowitzThe Austrians who have done so much to rationalize capitalist libertarianism in the 20th century are reacting to much the same thing. And if you look at the history of capitalism, it, too, is a reaction to political power.Jun 22 21:38
r_schestowitzBut just as positivism substituted certain dogmas for Catholic dogmas--and this started at about the same time--capitalism substitutes economic power for political power. It's really the same evil with the same sort of doublethink as in 1984: Slavery is freedom.Jun 22 21:38
r_schestowitz"Jun 22 21:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Freescale i.MX7 SoCs take on low-powerJun 22 21:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux IoT http://t.co/qTh12cfMM7Jun 22 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | New Freescale i.MX7 SoCs take on low-power Linux IoT ·  LinuxGizmos.comJun 22 21:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Jun 22 21:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Is the First OS to Get Linux Kernel 4.1Jun 22 21:41
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS http://t.co/gwPf4sEPSOJun 22 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Solus Is the First OS to Get Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS - SoftpediaJun 22 21:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 22 21:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FFmpeg 2.7.1 "Nash" Brings Update PackagesJun 22 21:41
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/OgmnzidemK (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 22 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | FFmpeg 2.7.1 "Nash" Brings Update Packages - SoftpediaJun 22 21:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     WPA and WPA2-Related Exploits Closed in UbuntuJun 22 21:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jJ5Rko1l4g (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 22 21:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Is the First OS to Get Linux Kernel 4.1Jun 22 21:41
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/aAyd1aK.jpgJun 22 23:28
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cubexyzthis merits reading or re-reading:Jun 23 03:12
cubexyzhttp://www.theverge.com/2014/1/21/5331430/microsoft-machinima-xbox-one-youtube-promotions-response Jun 23 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft and Machinima brush off Xbox One shilling controversy (update) | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/mw9kh ]Jun 23 03:12
cubexyzoops wrong one :-/Jun 23 03:12
cubexyzhttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/microsoft-new-monopoly.en.htmlJun 23 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Microsoft's New Monopoly - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/mw9km ]Jun 23 03:13
cubexyzshilling is a problem too, but I can't think of any solution beyond touting the virtues of Linux/BSD/UnixJun 23 03:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Open Container Project Helps Define theJun 23 04:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.1 Officially Released,Jun 23 04:08
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r_schestowitzcubexyz: both links are worth readingJun 23 09:08
r_schestowitzMicrosoft is getting caught bribing for OOXML, paying for astroturfingJun 23 09:08
r_schestowitzit's not a companyJun 23 09:09
r_schestowitzit doesn't act like oneJun 23 09:09
r_schestowitzmore like a sectJun 23 09:09
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cubexyzwell, a marketing company for sureJun 23 09:14
oiaohmcubexyz: good marketing companys normally don't do birbary.Jun 23 09:17
oiaohmcubexyz:  Microsoft is more like a underhanded Lobbying firmJun 23 09:18
r_schestowitzThe #bush family can have almost 20 years in presidency because 'Democrats' are irresponsibly stupid to have courted one whom libertarians and leftists alike hateJun 23 09:24
cubexyzoiaohm, I blame the DOJ for not breaking up MicrosoftJun 23 09:26
cubexyzI expect Microsoft to play dirtyJun 23 09:27
oiaohmcubexyz: You have to remember IBM invented  most of the stunts Microsoft uses.Jun 23 09:29
cubexyzquote from 2001: "A decade from now we'll see the department still fighting with Microsoft and Congress will have to step in."Jun 23 09:29
oiaohmIBM only leart better after they almost went bankrupt.Jun 23 09:29
cubexyzoiaohm, which OEM offers a non-Microsoft computer?Jun 23 09:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Teaching Linux to Speak http://t.co/gqsJFYLLAPJun 23 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     8 Ways to Write a Better Linux SysAdmin JobJun 23 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Posting http://t.co/oNpNy5XIjP (www.linux.com)Jun 23 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 if you're into marketing and buzzwords maybeJun 23 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Evince Document Viewer Will SupportJun 23 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Highlight Annotations in GNOME 3.18Jun 23 09:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 8 Ways to Write a Better Linux SysAdmin Job Posting | Linux.comJun 23 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Update 2015-06-22 (stable)Jun 23 09:30
cubexyzthere's only Google with chromebooks reallyJun 23 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Unity 8 Landed in Ubuntu Touch, theJun 23 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Calendar App Makes a ComebackJun 23 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kexi 3! http://t.co/Df9KYRdFAEJun 23 09:30
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oiaohmcubexyz: a lot of OEMs did offer a non Microsoft computer.Jun 23 09:31
oiaohmToday dell,  HP, lentove and quote a few more offer Linux systems.Jun 23 09:32
cubexyzoiaohm, I'm not not seeing that in the local stores hereJun 23 09:32
cubexyzjust chromebooks, nothing elseJun 23 09:32
cubexyzyes, ASUS had a few products Jun 23 09:33
cubexyzno one is selling Lemote in Canada or the USAJun 23 09:33
cubexyzwhat I am seeing is old computers getting wiped and then some Linux or BSD distro is put onJun 23 09:34
cubexyzbut a new computer without that windows sticker is a rarityJun 23 09:34
cubexyzthe situation is better now than 15 years ago, sureJun 23 09:35
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6252203Jun 23 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft Peter now admits that Microsoft just lied about 'free' #vista10 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/microsoft-stealthily-backs-away-from-free-windows-10-promise/ #propaganda lies and 'useful idiots'Jun 23 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Microsoft stealthily backs away from free Windows 10 promise | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/mwckt ]Jun 23 09:37
r_schestowitz"Read the article: if you have a genuine 7 or 8 installation, you're getting it for free. Only those who previewed it won't be getting it gratis."Jun 23 09:37
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6255303Jun 23 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft ’s Continued and Seemingly Never-Ending Lies About #Vista 10 Being ‘Free’ (Lock-in) http://techrights.org/2015/06/22/price-of-win-10/ #windowsJun 23 09:37
r_schestowitz"lol"Jun 23 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft’s Continued and Seemingly Never-Ending Lies About Vista 10 Being ‘Free’ (Lock-in) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mwcl0 ]Jun 23 09:37
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/unix-v5-vs-windows-8.1.txtJun 23 09:38
r_schestowitzMany fine prints (e.g. for business), no actual commitment, lots of hush-hush, and  many misleading claims, e.g. about China. Confuse and diffuse may work.... perception changes.Jun 23 09:38
r_schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2015/06/22/price-of-win-10/Jun 23 09:39
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6253963Jun 23 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #linuxfoundation opens the lion's mouth again to look at what's inside the throat http://www.businessinsider.in/Microsoft-is-working-with-its-most-bitter-enemies-thanks-to-this-hot-new-technology/articleshow/47774891.cms #microsoftJun 23 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.businessinsider.in | Microsoft is working with its most bitter enemies thanks to this hot new technology | Business Insider India [ http://ur1.ca/mwcli ]Jun 23 09:40
r_schestowitz"Can they see Nokia and Novell in there?"Jun 23 09:40
r_schestowitzBoth companies are in the Linux Foundation. Or were...Jun 23 09:40
cubexyzpeople don't realize how awesome Unix v5 and v6 wereJun 23 09:40
r_schestowitzI never used themJun 23 09:40
cubexyzeveryone got all the driver source, there wasn't even the idea of closed source drivers yetJun 23 09:40
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6252026Jun 23 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux 4.1 released https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/22/8 #linux #kernelJun 23 09:40
r_schestowitz"how can i use the new ext4 encryption? Tutorial / how to ?"Jun 23 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Linux 4.1 releasedJun 23 09:40
r_schestowitzI think it can be enabled by distro at GUI level at install time (not afterwards, not easily)Jun 23 09:41
cubexyzgot a new printer? Here's the Unix source, here's the manual for the printer... now go write a driverJun 23 09:42
cubexyzno wonder Stallman got ticked off all those years agoJun 23 09:42
cubexyzthe end of the 1970s was the start of the age of crapJun 23 09:43
cubexyzwe're slowly getting back to normalJun 23 09:44
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/613266366976667648Jun 23 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz “They’ll get sort of addicted, and then we’ll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade.” - Billy boyJun 23 09:46
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alexanderhanff/status/613267003969826816Jun 23 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexanderhanff: @schestowitz headline should say "4yr old shot by police"Jun 23 09:49
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oiaohmcubexyz: I normally deal with custom builders so I order machines without windows.Jun 23 10:27
oiaohmcubexyz: Linux users don't exactly want 1 thing so its very hard to have the item on shelf being exactly what they want.Jun 23 10:28
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oiaohmcubexyz: most common reason for old machines with Linux is damage/loss of required Microsoft documentation to transfer license.Jun 23 10:34
oiaohmcubexyz: in stores of course.Jun 23 10:34
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6256574Jun 23 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When the @linuxfoundation says it'll teach you "Linux" or tells how to advertise for a "Linux" job it conveniently leaves out #gnu toolsJun 23 10:41
r_schestowitz"Knowing the difference between GNU/Linux and Linux will not help you get a job working with open source software, it will help you become a better engineer, which is different than getting a job."Jun 23 10:41
r_schestowitzYou can get a job either wayJun 23 10:41
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6250807Jun 23 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Stories like this make me want to ban all #google IP address at router level https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/20/wikileaks-jacob-appelbaum-google-investigation/ like #facebook http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/04/12/blocking-facebook/Jun 23 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org | Revealed: How DOJ Gagged Google over Surveillance of WikiLeaks Volunteer - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/mwd24 ]Jun 23 10:41
r_schestowitz"Oh, I looked into that and failed, when you gather enough bitterness please post a tutorial how you obtained all Google's IP classes ;)"Jun 23 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » How to Block Facebook and Stop the Most Creepy Type of Spying [ http://ur1.ca/k65w9 ]Jun 23 10:41
r_schestowitzWork in progressJun 23 10:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Glorious Ubuntu Convergence Demonstrated withJun 23 10:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.1 Officially Released,Jun 23 11:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unicode 8.0 Coming to Fedora 23 Linux This FallJun 23 11:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Teaching Linux to Speak | FOSS ForceJun 23 11:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cinnamon 2.6.9 Desktop Environment Released forJun 23 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Mint 17.2 "Rafaela"Jun 23 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rCQJPZvmes (news.softpedia.com)Jun 23 11:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cinnamon 2.6.9 Desktop Environment Released for Linux Mint 17.2 "Rafaela" - SoftpediaJun 23 11:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chakra GNU/Linux Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.5, KDEJun 23 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Frameworks 5.11, and AMD Catalyst 15.5Jun 23 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/T78jNmm657 (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 23 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Chakra GNU/Linux Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.5, KDE Frameworks 5.11, and AMD Catalyst 15.5 - SoftpediaJun 23 11:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.1 Will be Supported for the NextJun 23 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Two Years, Says Greg Kroah-HartmanJun 23 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/c4q9065BKj (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 23 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.1 Will Be Supported for the Next Two Years, Says Greg Kroah-Hartman - SoftpediaJun 23 11:10
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*TweetTuxMachines @Linux_topics_us favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.1 Will be Supported for the...'Jun 23 11:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.10.81 LTS Repairs Btrfs and IPv4Jun 23 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Issues, Updates Drivers http://t.co/dq3dqQUq0KJun 23 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.10.81 LTS Repairs Btrfs and IPv4 Issues, Updates Drivers - SoftpediaJun 23 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CzBagDhTg2 (joindiaspora.com)Jun 23 11:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Linux Kernel 3.10...Jun 23 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.0.6 Is a Massive Released withJun 23 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Many x86 and Btrfs ImprovementsJun 23 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Sm1LhSfgjQ (news.softpedia.com)Jun 23 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.0.6 Is a Massive Release with Many x86 and Btrfs Improvements - SoftpediaJun 23 11:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Update 2015-06-22Jun 23 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1GxfLdHtxG (manjaro.github.io) "WeJun 23 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Update 2015-06-22 (stable) – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityJun 23 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 are happy to announce our first update forJun 23 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Manjaro 0.8.13."Jun 23 11:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Unity 8 Landed in Ubuntu Touch, theJun 23 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Calendar App Makes a ComebackJun 23 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YNb6OpZNG2 (news.softpedia.com)Jun 23 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Unity 8 Landed in Ubuntu Touch, the Calendar App Makes a Comeback - SoftpediaJun 23 11:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kexi 3! https://t.co/KZcstUKX22 (blogs.kde.org)Jun 23 15:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.kde.org | Kexi 3! | blogs.kde.orgJun 23 15:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Evince Document Viewer Will SupportJun 23 15:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Highlight Annotations in GNOME 3.18Jun 23 15:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Gf7ReZVTQH (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 23 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME's Evince Document Viewer Will Support Highlight Annotations in GNOME 3.18 - SoftpediaJun 23 15:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Glorious Ubuntu Convergence Demonstrated withJun 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines                 the Notes App http://t.co/1Yte1xWmJwJun 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jun 23 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Glorious Ubuntu Convergence Demonstrated with the Notes App - SoftpediaJun 23 17:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 Best First Person Shooter Games for AndroidJun 23 17:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ZlofhjQNPy (www.gottabemobile.com)Jun 23 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | 10 Best First Person Shooter Games for AndroidJun 23 17:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Android gaming handheld is like a NintendoJun 23 17:22
TweetTuxMachines                 3DS XL without the 3D or the DSJun 23 17:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7qd3fWyVj1 (www.geek.com)Jun 23 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com | New Android gaming handheld is like a Nintendo 3DS XL without the 3D or the DS | News | Geek.comJun 23 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android M Update: 5 Features You’ll LoveJun 23 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/MdENYlB1cY (www.gottabemobile.com)Jun 23 17:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android M Update: 5 Features You'll LoveJun 23 17:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on with Mozilla Webmaker for AndroidJun 23 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 beta: A little too ‘cue’-lessJun 23 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IaziyJj7aT (www.extremetech.com)Jun 23 17:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com | Hands on with Mozilla Webmaker for Android beta: A little too ‘cue’-less | ExtremeTechJun 23 17:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Excellent Android Projector You'll ProbablyJun 23 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Never Use http://t.co/UGQZmQGmAR (gizmodo.com)Jun 23 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | The Excellent Android Projector You'll Probably Never UseJun 23 17:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Android gaming handheld is like a NintendoJun 23 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 3DS XL without the 3D or the DSJun 23 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8dWZWqrTnl (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 17:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Android gaming handheld is like a Nintendo 3DS XL without the 3D or the DS | Tux MachinesJun 23 17:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Russia to replace proprietary software withJun 23 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 open source http://t.co/aQ53WlvSDqJun 23 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Russia to replace proprietary software with open source | Tux MachinesJun 23 17:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Excellent Android Projector You'll ProbablyJun 23 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Never Use http://t.co/5I2jnF156SJun 23 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Excellent Android Projector You'll Probably Never Use | Tux MachinesJun 23 17:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     One Android Phone Per ChildJun 23 19:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IDEyHJywKW (etbe.coker.com.au)Jun 23 19:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | One Android Phone Per Child « etbe - Russell CokerJun 23 19:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.1 Release Has Record DeveloperJun 23 19:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Participation http://t.co/z4tun7WPXWJun 23 19:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.1 Release Has Record Developer Participation | Tux MachinesJun 23 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Beautiful Material Design-Inspired PapyrosJun 23 19:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Distro Getting Closer to ReleaseJun 23 19:30
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/r3z2ipl0CU (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 19:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Beautiful Material Design-Inspired Papyros Linux Distro Getting Closer to Release | Tux MachinesJun 23 19:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Weave 1.0 Debuts to Improve Docker NetworkingJun 23 19:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5f9ek8af59 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 19:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weave 1.0 Debuts to Improve Docker Networking | Tux MachinesJun 23 19:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android M Developer Preview – Up for Grabs!Jun 23 19:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pJK8DjPovs (gunshyassassin.com)Jun 23 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gunshyassassin.com | Android M Developer Preview - Up for Grabs! - GUNSHYASSASSINJun 23 19:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Poll results: Would you get a new BlackBerry ifJun 23 19:31
TweetTuxMachines                 it ran Android? http://t.co/6xvJthXnO0Jun 23 19:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phonearena.com)Jun 23 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Poll results: Would you get a new BlackBerry if it ran Android?Jun 23 19:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Addappt Doubles Down On Android And Its LargerJun 23 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Corporate Thesis http://t.co/yFqfTgA12VJun 23 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Addappt Doubles Down On Android And Its Larger Corporate Thesis | TechCrunchJun 23 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (techcrunch.com)Jun 23 20:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony Announces Android M Developer Preview ForJun 23 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Xperia Devices http://t.co/cZfNGcfMivJun 23 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Sony Announces Android M Developer Preview For Xperia DevicesJun 23 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Jun 23 20:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Only on Android: The best apps you'll only findJun 23 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 on Google's OS http://t.co/kxqdCi4BP3Jun 23 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com | Only on Android: The best apps you'll only find on Google's OS | GreenbotJun 23 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.greenbot.com)Jun 23 20:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Attack of the Drones http://t.co/BTmRAMa4DBJun 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Attack of the Drones | Tux MachinesJun 23 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GParted Live Now Has Linux Kernel 4.0.5Jun 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4HRtOgvtDj (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 20:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GParted Live Now Has Linux Kernel 4.0.5 | Tux MachinesJun 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.1 Release Has Record DeveloperJun 23 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Participation http://t.co/7VSUjssU1QJun 23 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Jun 23 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux 4.1 Release Has Record Developer Participation | Linux.comJun 23 20:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwja2Jun 23 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Beautiful Material Design-Inspired PapyrosJun 23 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Distro Getting Closer to ReleaseJun 23 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/i0ciMO9BqH (news.softpedia.com)Jun 23 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Beautiful Material Design-Inspired Papyros Linux Distro Getting Closer to Release - SoftpediaJun 23 20:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwjb5Jun 23 20:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Weave 1.0 Debuts to Improve Docker NetworkingJun 23 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pMOQSBT21xJun 23 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com) "raised $5Jun 23 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | Weave 1.0 Debuts to Improve Docker NetworkingJun 23 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 million in venture funding back in December"Jun 23 20:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Attack of the Drones http://t.co/3kUeWvP0mBJun 23 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com)Jun 23 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Attack of the Drones | Linux JournalJun 23 20:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GParted Live Now Has Linux Kernel 4.0.5Jun 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TDAUpjnJ3h (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 23 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GParted Live Now Has Linux Kernel 4.0.5 - SoftpediaJun 23 21:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Patch Vulnerabilities Closed in UbuntuJun 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/T6RE5wyQz5 (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 23 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNU Patch Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu - SoftpediaJun 23 21:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu scaling up VM addressabilityJun 23 21:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aqywuAzFBO (www.theregister.co.uk)Jun 23 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Ubuntu scaling up VM addressability • The RegisterJun 23 21:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dota 2 Reborn Arrives on GNU/Linux  Ahead ofJun 23 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Schedule http://t.co/qTOEevapQnJun 23 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Dota 2 Reborn Arrives on Linux and Mac OS X Ahead of Schedule - SoftpediaJun 23 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jun 23 21:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Total War: WARHAMMER Confirmed for Linux andJun 23 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 SteamOS http://t.co/LQfhFSl669Jun 23 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Total War: WARHAMMER Confirmed for Linux and SteamOS - SoftpediaJun 23 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/lrLSOcEhZ6Jun 23 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (games.on.net)Jun 23 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-games.on.net | Total War: Warhammer mixes up the formula with magic and giants | games.on.netJun 23 21:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Project Cars 2 Announced for Linux Before theJun 23 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 First Game Gets Ported http://t.co/yamWwFWVCXJun 23 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Project Cars 2 Announced for Linux Before the First Game Gets Ported - SoftpediaJun 23 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jun 23 21:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Patch Vulnerabilities Closed in UbuntuJun 23 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/64srqsoAth (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 21:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Patch Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu | Tux MachinesJun 23 21:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu scaling up VM addressabilityJun 23 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ftKBBzvwDH (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 21:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu scaling up VM addressability | Tux MachinesJun 23 21:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LibreOffice Integration in GNOME DocumentsJun 23 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Being Worked on http://t.co/H4PaV0rDU3Jun 23 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Integration in GNOME Documents Being Worked on | Tux MachinesJun 23 21:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dime-sized IoT COM runs Linux or Android onJun 23 21:41
TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX6 http://t.co/cQlNm5R3RhJun 23 21:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dime-sized IoT COM runs Linux or Android on i.MX6 | Tux MachinesJun 23 21:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @acossta favourited 'Dime-sized IoT COM runs Linux or Android on...'Jun 23 21:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Space Colony: Steam Edition Should Be Coming ToJun 23 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/DS2AzLvNnJJun 23 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jun 23 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Space Colony: Steam Edition Should Be Coming To Linux | GamingOnLinuxJun 23 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "This week heralded the announcement of Red HatJun 23 22:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprise Linux Server for ARM DevelopmentJun 23 22:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Preview 7.1" http://t.co/45Sy6ac1BIJun 23 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developerblog.redhat.com | The ARM Arc Part 3 | Red Hat Developer BlogJun 23 22:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 22 on ARM and aarch64Jun 23 22:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/alnMrmtMc8 (nullr0ute.com)Jun 23 22:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nullr0ute.com | Fedora 22 on ARM and aarch64 | nullr0ute's blogJun 23 22:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS http://t.co/D9xlPOU6vEJun 23 22:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesJun 23 22:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/x1D3qtJBjYJun 23 22:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 23 22:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Summit and Stock http://t.co/qQNxBGZ0kPJun 23 22:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Summit and Stock | Tux MachinesJun 23 22:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Gzb7uCRslxJun 23 22:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJun 23 22:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/rmx2dHBBjLJun 23 22:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 23 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 23 22:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwkgxJun 23 22:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 23/6/2015: Cinnamon 2.6.9, Red Hat SummitJun 23 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/B2KYghnlCj (techrights.org)Jun 23 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwkgyJun 23 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/6/2015: Cinnamon 2.6.9, Red Hat Summit | TechrightsJun 23 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Reproducible Builds get funded by the CoreJun 23 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Infrastructure InitiativeJun 23 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6vOmY76sAs (bits.debian.org)Jun 23 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bits.debian.org/2015/06/reproducible-builds-funded-by-cii.html )Jun 23 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian Live Rescue needs some loveJun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/3Kc1gTYZLy (syn.theti.ca)Jun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwku0Jun 23 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-syn.theti.ca | Debian Live Rescue needs some love | syn.theti.caJun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced EditionJun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Planning A Day-1 Linux ReleaseJun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/itSzzCK8XZ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwku1Jun 23 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition Planning A Day-1 Linux Release | GamingOnLinuxJun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     0 A.D. Open Source Strategy Game Has A New &Jun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Faster Pathfinder https://t.co/5qGoW2sxJbJun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jun 23 23:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwku2Jun 23 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | 0 A.D. Open Source Strategy Game Has A New & Faster Pathfinder | GamingOnLinuxJun 23 23:08
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/613474285143789568Jun 23 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Is it a sign of 'coming of age' for a business entity with roots in #FOSS? cc:@schestowitz #GNU/#Linux #OpenSource https://t.co/43Y9KNgY3cJun 23 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SamsungBizUSA: We've formed a strategic alliance with @RedHatNews to empower customers to new levels of #mobile innovation http://t.co/dKemVIYPan #RHSummitJun 23 23:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BTRFS Status June 2015 http://t.co/cYgbXYJsMbJun 23 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (etbe.coker.com.au) "things are going quiteJun 23 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 well with BTRFS."Jun 23 23:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwl8yJun 23 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | BTRFS Status June 2015 « etbe - Russell CokerJun 23 23:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unreal Engine FPS 'Storm United' Should FinallyJun 23 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Update Linux This Week https://t.co/f0O6c6wxrSJun 23 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jun 23 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Unreal Engine FPS 'Storm United' Should Finally Update Linux This Week | GamingOnLinuxJun 23 23:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwl8zJun 23 23:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dime-sized IoT COM runs Linux or Android onJun 23 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX6 http://t.co/Z9PQuBSPVn (linuxgizmos.com)Jun 23 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Dime-sized IoT COM runs Linux or Android on i.MX6 ·  LinuxGizmos.comJun 23 23:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interview with winner of Red Hat's Women inJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source Academic Award, Kesha ShahJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2yiGB8nGlG (opensource.com)Jun 24 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Red Hat announces the winner of it's first Women in Open Source Academic Award | Opensource.comJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwlrtJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu launches the MX4 Ubuntu EditionJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9sC610HQKT (www.alphr.com)Jun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwlruJun 24 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Meizu launches the MX4 Ubuntu Edition | AlphrJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Btrfs By Default Will Likely Not Be Pursued ForJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 23 http://t.co/7WGQ31nU9PJun 24 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Btrfs By Default Will Likely Not Be Pursued For Fedora 23 - PhoronixJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwlrvJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chrome/Chromium AntifeatureJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PReVs2wStH (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwlrxJun 24 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chrome/Chromium Antifeature | Tux MachinesJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 20 "Heisenbug" Reached End of Life,Jun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Please Upgrade to Fedora 22 LinuxJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fevDq4MQCv (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwls1Jun 24 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 20 "Heisenbug" Reached End of Life, Please Upgrade to Fedora 22 Linux | Tux MachinesJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.4.108 http://t.co/4hAFFZWGDDJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.4.108 | Tux MachinesJun 24 00:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwls3Jun 24 00:37
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/613489785303363584  https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/613490165676408833Jun 24 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz If FOSS does the job well, paying more for something closed just for "brand cachet" is stupid snobbery.Jun 24 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Diversity is evil because it's the opposite of a monopoly. And monopolies are cozy business models.Jun 24 01:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi's Default Firmware Updated toJun 24 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.0 http://t.co/SqqXTTdIs3Jun 24 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwmkqJun 24 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi's Default Firmware Updated to Linux Kernel 4.0 | Tux MachinesJun 24 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat enters mobile software market withJun 24 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung http://t.co/xCT3Pmyf6FJun 24 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat enters mobile software market with Samsung | Tux MachinesJun 24 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwmksJun 24 02:03
oiaohmThat samsung team up is interestingJun 24 02:51
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6258940Jun 24 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: [Humour] Undeniable evidence that the moon landing was staged http://9gag.com/gag/aEzdqnMJun 24 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> 9gag.com | Undeniable evidence that the moon landing was staged - 9GAGJun 24 08:22
r_schestowitz"I knew it all along - they can't Jules Verne me!"Jun 24 08:22
r_schestowitzoiaohm: samsung pays microsoftJun 24 08:22
r_schestowitzand works with microsoft in some areasJun 24 08:22
r_schestowitzalas, it also does some fossJun 24 08:22
r_schestowitzit's a huge and growing companyJun 24 08:22
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6255088Jun 24 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #food #money #quote #wisdom #healthJun 24 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by anonymiss@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_6865474dd1d2808d4425.jpegJun 24 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by anonymiss@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_6865474dd1d2808d4425.jpegJun 24 08:23
r_schestowitz"Actually, I think I might try this. I've been worrying about starving to death after my parents die. Maybe growing my own food is the answer. How I'll pay my bills is yet to be seen, though."Jun 24 08:23
r_schestowitzIf more people did this, there might be tax legislation ('corrective')Jun 24 08:23
r_schestowitzAnything with "smart" in it is bad. The worst: "smart quotes"!Jun 24 08:24
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6256855Jun 24 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Cloud"=giving our data to few billionaire companies; "Smart" phone=telling billionaire companies where we go; "Smart" cards=more tracking.Jun 24 08:24
r_schestowitz"Anything with "smart" in it is bad. The worst: "smart quotes"!"Jun 24 08:24
cubexyzRed Hat used to be good, alasJun 24 08:24
r_schestowitzThose are useful actuallyJun 24 08:24
r_schestowitzcubexyz: red hat is OKJun 24 08:24
r_schestowitzsamsung is questionableJun 24 08:24
cubexyzyes, price fixing, for which I get a (very) small settlement Jun 24 08:29
cubexyzre: samsungJun 24 08:29
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cubexyzMostly I'm unhappy about Red Hat adding systemd to FedoraJun 24 08:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SODIMM-style i.MX6 COMs include an UltraLiteJun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines                 model http://t.co/Z9wyr1cF3L (linuxgizmos.com)Jun 24 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | SODIMM-style i.MX6 COMs include an UltraLite model ·  LinuxGizmos.comJun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwpnmJun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Could This Be The Age Of Enlightenment?Jun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LvNZsBOdVWJun 24 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Could This Be The Age Of Enlightenment? « Everyday Linux UserJun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Jun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwpnnJun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 20 "Heisenbug" Reached End of Life,Jun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Please Upgrade to Fedora 22 LinuxJun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4TuPL1J8dV (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 24 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Fedora 20 "Heisenbug" Reached End of Life, Please Upgrade to Fedora 22 Linux - SoftpediaJun 24 08:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwpnoJun 24 08:34
oiaohmcubexyz: fedora is a testing OS.   So anything nasty should end up in fedora.Jun 24 08:47
cubexyzhrmmmJun 24 08:47
oiaohmcubexyz: now if systemd turned up in centos or RHEL first then there would be a major problem.Jun 24 08:48
cubexyzyou're sure that there's no systemd in RHEL?Jun 24 08:49
oiaohmRHEL got systemd after fedora had it for quite some time.Jun 24 08:49
oiaohmAug 18, 2014 RHEL 7 is the first RHEL with SystemdJun 24 08:50
oiaohmSystemd appeared in Fedora 17 ie 2012Jun 24 08:51
cubexyzhmm, I thought it popped up in Fedora 15Jun 24 08:52
oiaohmcubexyz: ok you are rightJun 24 08:54
oiaohmSo 2011Jun 24 08:54
oiaohm3 years in testing before redhat decides to drop it on enterprise customers.Jun 24 08:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.4.108 http://t.co/fpDcUmvnQSJun 24 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 3.4.108Jun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (lkml.iu.edu)Jun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwpxmJun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat enters mobile software market withJun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung http://t.co/dB974q26r9 (www.zdnet.com)Jun 24 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Red Hat enters mobile software market with Samsung | ZDNetJun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwpxoJun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.2 Gets UEFI ESRT Support For DoingJun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Firmware Updates http://t.co/GnyOiZsS3lJun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 24 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.2 Gets UEFI ESRT Support For Doing Firmware Updates - PhoronixJun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwpxpJun 24 09:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.2 Power Management Update Yields MoreJun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 ACPI 6 Changes http://t.co/Y4a3mEB8YSJun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 24 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.2 Power Management Update Yields More ACPI 6 Changes - PhoronixJun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq2oJun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interview with winner of the Red Hat Women inJun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source Community Award, Sarah SharpJun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/O6LIqJPenI (opensource.com)Jun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq2pJun 24 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Winner of the first Red Hat Women in Open Source Community Award | Opensource.comJun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.2 Works On More Scheduler ImprovementsJun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/OhT58eFWh8 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq2qJun 24 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.2 Works On More Scheduler Improvements - PhoronixJun 24 09:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.2 Kernel Gets Port To New ProcessorJun 24 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Architecture http://t.co/PWSzEv4Ix4Jun 24 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.2 Kernel Gets Port To New Processor Architecture - PhoronixJun 24 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 24 09:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Must Have Collaboration Apps for AndroidJun 24 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7am7yhiFuU (www.datamation.com)Jun 24 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Must Have Collaboration Apps for Android - DatamationJun 24 09:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq4pJun 24 09:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.2 x86 Assembly Code Has Small Speedups,Jun 24 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Micro Optimizations http://t.co/ZC3qwSy1f6Jun 24 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 24 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.2 x86 Assembly Code Has Small Speedups, Micro Optimizations - PhoronixJun 24 09:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq4qJun 24 09:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Shilpa Nair Shares Her Interview Experience onJun 24 09:29
TweetTuxMachines                 RedHat Linux Package ManagementJun 24 09:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ohzQkXXulK (www.tecmint.com)Jun 24 09:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq5nJun 24 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Shilpa Nair Shares Her Interview Experience on RedHat Linux Package ManagementJun 24 09:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sid Meier's Civilization V Finally Gets SteamJun 24 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Workshop SupportJun 24 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uzSdEPIDOl (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 24 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Sid Meier's Civilization V Finally Gets Steam Workshop Support - SoftpediaJun 24 09:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq64Jun 24 09:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.2 Gets UEFI ESRT Support For DoingJun 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Firmware Updates http://t.co/pfSnQUfwykJun 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.2 Gets UEFI ESRT Support For Doing Firmware Updates | Tux MachinesJun 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq65Jun 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First quad- and octa-core QorIQ SoCs unveiledJun 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TGawxZUoCl (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq67Jun 24 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First quad- and octa-core QorIQ SoCs unveiled | Tux MachinesJun 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interview with winner of the Red Hat Women inJun 24 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source Community Award, Sarah SharpJun 24 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DrA0SP8DG1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 09:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq85Jun 24 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Interview with winner of the Red Hat Women in Open Source Community Award, Sarah Sharp | Tux MachinesJun 24 09:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) Will Soon BeJun 24 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.1 LTSJun 24 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/rnrzof6duY (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 24 09:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First quad- and octa-core QorIQ SoCs unveiledJun 24 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/HgEeiZlz1F (linuxgizmos.com)Jun 24 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | First quad- and octa-core QorIQ SoCs unveiled ·  LinuxGizmos.comJun 24 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 "Freescale revealed two Linux-enabled..."Jun 24 09:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwq87Jun 24 09:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel At 19.5 Million Lines Of Code,Jun 24 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Continues Rising http://t.co/AIkVnmEEESJun 24 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 24 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux Kernel At 19.5 Million Lines Of Code, Continues Rising - PhoronixJun 24 09:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwqbtJun 24 09:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04: evolution continuesJun 24 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/UCJrvLut4W (linuxblog.darkduck.com)Jun 24 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Ubuntu 15.04: evolution continues - Linux notes from DarkDuckJun 24 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwqbvJun 24 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cross-Platform Android Development Toolkits:Jun 24 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Kivy vs. PhoneGap http://t.co/fLes47lsNjJun 24 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shallowsky.com | Cross-Platform Android Development Toolkits: Kivy vs. PhoneGap (Shallow Thoughts)Jun 24 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (shallowsky.com)Jun 24 09:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mageia 5 KDE: quick screenshot tourJun 24 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/l4QcD3eo7G (linuxblog.darkduck.com)Jun 24 10:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Mageia 5 KDE: quick screenshot tour - Linux notes from DarkDuckJun 24 10:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwqopJun 24 10:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mageia 5 Screencast and Screenshots Jun 24 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8OyYHeU6X2 (www.linuxquestions.org)Jun 24 10:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwqoqJun 24 10:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Mageia 5 Screencast and ScreenshotsJun 24 10:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proxmox Virtual Environment 4.0 Will OfferJun 24 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Containers (LXC), Based on Debian 8Jun 24 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hiZY8iofkJ (news.softpedia.com)Jun 24 10:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Proxmox Virtual Environment 4.0 Will Offer Linux Containers (LXC), Based on Debian 8 - SoftpediaJun 24 10:31
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r_schestowitz> http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/05492.htmlJun 24 10:55
r_schestowitz>Jun 24 10:55
r_schestowitz> I think you saw this at Phronix already.  Apparently that shows thereJun 24 10:55
r_schestowitz> are no technical arguments for kdbus.  Anything runs faster in theJun 24 10:55
r_schestowitz> kernel AFAIK.Jun 24 10:55
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gordonbp/status/613646450841489409Jun 24 10:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gordonbp: @schestowitz @glynmoody Just emailed my MP (Home Office Minister) about this. I expect I'll get an automated response....Jun 24 10:56
r_schestowitzThey usually ask, what's in it for me?Jun 24 10:56
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oiaohmThe arguement for kdbus makes sense when you look at messeging between cgroups.Jun 24 10:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gordonbp/status/613647760743645184Jun 24 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gordonbp: @schestowitz @glynmoody This one will probably spout all the usual guff about protecting citizens and that it's all neccesary....;-)Jun 24 11:04
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UKFast/status/613648314446278656Jun 24 11:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UKFast: @schestowitz @glynmoody still very much UK! Our CEO bought a hotel for the team in Switzerland but the tech side's proud to be UK-basedJun 24 11:05
r_schestowitzNot all of it. CEO's friend told me (I've known the CEO personally for years)Jun 24 11:06
r_schestowitzoiaohm: but it comes with more issuesJun 24 11:07
r_schestowitzor dependencies as I understand itJun 24 11:07
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/613648722833088512 https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/613649228708098048Jun 24 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @gordonbp @schestowitz thanks for trying...Jun 24 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @UKFast @schestowitz let's hope you don't get too many warrants, then...Jun 24 11:08
cubexyzmore faddy APIsJun 24 11:11
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/613649228708098048Jun 24 11:18
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r_schestowitzNo need. #ukfast puts all VMs (GNU/Linux too) on Windows with Hyper-V. #gchq has backs into these, it can get what it wants.Jun 24 11:19
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UKFast/status/613652404886708224Jun 24 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UKFast: @schestowitz @glynmoody @Lawrence_Jones spent some time over there for @farinetverbier but we're still wholly UK and really proud to be :)Jun 24 11:19
r_schestowitzI heard of plans to also do a DC there. Maybe not public knowledge yet.Jun 24 11:20
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UKFast/status/613653069390327808Jun 24 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UKFast: @schestowitz @glynmoody @Lawrence_Jones we've got loads of plans, but nothing like that yet... we're on a global takeover mission though! ;)Jun 24 11:21
r_schestowitzOK, so there's no denying now. I only know of #ch expansion--that's where companies that want privacy go.Jun 24 11:22
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/613653565916229632Jun 24 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @schestowitz ah, regrettable...Jun 24 11:28
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UKFast/status/613653774758977536Jun 24 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UKFast: @schestowitz @glynmoody actually Roy, our cloud solutions aren't hyper-v - you can find out a little more here https://t.co/EJhqlinwKv :)Jun 24 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ukfast.co.uk | Cloud Hosting | Cloud Server | UK Cloud Provider | UKFast eCloudJun 24 11:28
r_schestowitzeCloud® is a marketing brand, what does it use. Your managers told me you're using #hyperv (implies Windows host)Jun 24 11:29
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UKFast/status/613654465938374656Jun 24 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UKFast: @schestowitz @glynmoody we'd never deny our mission to grow and expand, of course. We want to help every business in the world to grow!Jun 24 11:30
r_schestowitzyes, but that bypasses the point I was making -- that there were plans to expand from the UK to Switzerland (where data protection law strong)Jun 24 11:31
r_schestowitzSome people in large British companies put sensitive data on #ukfast servers, inc. massive piles of credit card detailsJun 24 11:32
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oiaohmcubexyz: sending messages between cgroups/zones is not something posix is designed to cope with.   So its not a faddy API problem.   There is a issue problem is what is the correct way to solve it.Jun 24 11:40
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UKFast/status/613658535151452160Jun 24 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UKFast: @schestowitz @glynmoody yes, #eCloud is our range brand - much catchier than a string of tech terms!Jun 24 11:44
r_schestowitzBut what is the underlying software? To non-techs it may not matter, but for software security professionals it's essential.Jun 24 11:45
cubexyzoiaohm, is cgroups a systemd thing?Jun 24 11:52
cubexyzI don't have cgcreate or cgexec or anything like thatJun 24 11:52
cubexyzI can't think of any use for it eitherJun 24 11:53
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Lawrence_Jones/status/613664042692018177Jun 24 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Lawrence_Jones: @schestowitz @UKFast @glynmoody Hi Roy what do you want to know? You will get much more accurate information if you just engage directlyJun 24 12:05
r_schestowitzI wanted to know if it's true (what I heard from UKFast staff) that there might be expansions to hosting in SwitzerlandJun 24 12:06
oiaohmcubexyz: cgroups is not just a systemd thing.  Cgroups is a base tech to docker and other things as well.Jun 24 12:08
oiaohmcubexyz: cgroups starts 2007 long before systemd was ever dreamed up.   The issue of how to transfer data between cgroups securely has been a on going arguement since that time.Jun 24 12:10
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Lawrence_Jones/status/613665178341756928Jun 24 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Lawrence_Jones: @schestowitz @UKFast @glynmoody this hasn't come from a team member as it's not on our immediate road map. Why not pop in for a chat.Jun 24 12:11
r_schestowitzThat does not answer my question though Jun 24 12:11
oiaohmcubexyz: OpenVZ and Linux-VServer predate cgroups as well.   Jun 24 12:12
oiaohmBasically the idea of docker is not new.Jun 24 12:12
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oiaohmImplementing it so everything from graphical on to network to IPC can work is a complete nightmare level problem.Jun 24 12:13
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oiaohmcubexyz: basically the idea and rough implmentation of cgroups starts 2001 with Linux-VServerJun 24 12:15
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oiaohmcubexyz: sysvinit not working inside cgroup releated tech properly starts 2001 as well.Jun 24 12:16
oiaohmcubexyz: Yes a lot of people took the point of view that cgroup issues were not important.   The mass usage of docker now make fixing them important.Jun 24 12:17
oiaohmReally I am sick of response that when ever I say a bit of tech that systemd comes up with has come from existance of a prexising problem hey that tech has to have come from systemd.Jun 24 12:19
oiaohmBecause as you can now see cgroup issues predate systemd by a long way.   Failure of sysvinit to evolve to something like openrc caused systemd to get a foothold.Jun 24 12:20
r_schestowitzthe word "immediate" key here; also, it was a team member, for sure...Jun 24 12:25
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Lawrence_Jones/status/613665178341756928Jun 24 12:25
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Lawrence_Jones/status/613670516340195328Jun 24 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Lawrence_Jones: @schestowitz @UKFast @glynmoody if I was announcing news to invest in Switzerland it would be through the press.Jun 24 12:34
r_schestowitzMaybe it was a thought/plan, not formally announced yet. I never said it was announced.Jun 24 12:34
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/h4ck3rm1k3/status/613672921039421440Jun 24 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@h4ck3rm1k3: @schestowitz it looks like it is free software. Upsetting is https://t.co/S8Qy5Qxs8x "API packages are entitled to copyright protection" !Jun 24 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Oracle America, Inc. v. Google, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJun 24 12:43
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/h4ck3rm1k3/status/613672921039421440Jun 24 12:44
r_schestowitzI cannot find the repo link/s in http://wso2.com/Jun 24 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wso2.com | WSO2 - lean . enterprise . middlewareJun 24 12:44
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Lawrence_Jones/status/613673697753333760Jun 24 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Lawrence_Jones: @schestowitz @UKFast @glynmoody maybe I am also considering running for Prime Minister. Twitter is tedious for long conversations. Call meJun 24 12:44
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/antishockjrnl/status/613674705371836418Jun 24 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@antishockjrnl: Fusion centers in space. Fuck this dime store dystopia. @schestowitz @kaatje36Jun 24 12:56
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/h4ck3rm1k3/status/613676154642239488Jun 24 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@h4ck3rm1k3: @schestowitz http://t.co/0C11aqPC0U links to https://t.co/aq2y6hflc2 see "Source Code"Jun 24 12:56
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/h4ck3rm1k3/status/613676154642239488Jun 24 12:57
r_schestowitzThanks, but is carbon the whole thing? I always (for 7 years) considered them kind of "open core"...Jun 24 12:58
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r_schestowitz>>Jun 24 13:05
r_schestowitz>>> >> https://corenominal.org/blog/switching-from-linux-to-windowsJun 24 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-corenominal.org | Switching from Linux to Windows - corenominal [ http://ur1.ca/mwqto ]Jun 24 13:05
r_schestowitz>>> >>Jun 24 13:05
r_schestowitz>>> >> pukeJun 24 13:05
r_schestowitz>> > Why would someone who is already free choose to go to prison?Jun 24 13:05
r_schestowitz>> > Jun 24 13:05
r_schestowitz>> > Jun 24 13:05
r_schestowitz> I don't know.  Something is fishy.  I suppose more information will turnJun 24 13:05
r_schestowitz> up some day exposing the reason.Jun 24 13:05
r_schestowitzMaybe employer asked him to move.Jun 24 13:05
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/h4ck3rm1k3/status/613679432587317249Jun 24 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@h4ck3rm1k3: @schestowitz good question. I have not look into it further. This is based on a quick glance. Still upset about the copyrighting of apis!Jun 24 13:08
r_schestowitzUnless WH gets its way, SCOTUS will deal with the issue... maybe soon.Jun 24 13:08
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6261600Jun 24 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook back end is saturated with geographical data perpetually attached to verified IDs of people (not just registered useds [sic])Jun 24 13:19
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6261117Jun 24 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why would someone who is already free choose to go to prison? https://corenominal.org/blog/switching-from-linux-to-windowsJun 24 13:20
r_schestowitz"Jun 24 13:20
r_schestowitzIt’s the end of an era, lightweight Linux fans. Philip Newborough has decided that it’s time to move on, and he’s ceasing development of #! - CrunchBang, for the uninitiated.Jun 24 13:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | CrunchBang Linux developer moves on, recommends switch to Debian - Liliputing [ http://ur1.ca/mws12 ]Jun 24 13:20
r_schestowitz"http://webvaluecalculator.com/crunchbang.org "Jun 24 13:20
oiaohmReally I always wonder how truely secret are those VPN services.Jun 24 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webvaluecalculator.com | crunchbang.org is worth $ 182,880.00 - Website Value and statistics calculator [ http://ur1.ca/mws14 ]Jun 24 13:20
oiaohmThe horible part about Australian laws is that techicially you can go to jail if you cannot provide passwords or encryption solutions.  Jun 24 13:22
MinceR095505 < oiaohm> 3 years in testing before redhat decides to drop it on enterprise customers.Jun 24 13:25
MinceRand it still isn't stableJun 24 13:25
MinceRprobably never will beJun 24 13:25
cubexyzoiaohm, what if you just forget?Jun 24 13:26
cubexyzpeople forget passwords all the timeJun 24 13:26
oiaohmcubexyz: forget excuse is 15 years jail by the current laws.Jun 24 13:26
oiaohmYes legally you are meant to have records of your passwords.Jun 24 13:27
oiaohmMinceR: Never is a very long time.   sysvinit is techically not stable either.Jun 24 13:27
MinceRtechnically, sysvinit has been performing well for years while systemd still fails at basic init tasksJun 24 13:29
oiaohmNo sysvinit failed to operate correctly as of 2001 with virtual serverJun 24 13:30
oiaohmClaiming that sysvinit has been performing well is not covering all cases.Jun 24 13:30
MinceRi'm not talking about corner casesJun 24 13:31
MinceRi'm talking about stuff like a unit file being silently ignored if you make a typoJun 24 13:32
MinceRand the previous version being usedJun 24 13:32
MinceRand stuff like resuming boot while fsck is still workingJun 24 13:32
cubexyzjust tried a new chatbot: http://www.mitsuku.comJun 24 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mitsuku.com | Mitsuku ChatbotJun 24 13:33
cubexyzit's not badJun 24 13:33
oiaohmMinceR: did you know it possible to make multi threaded sysvinit to resume while fsck is running.Jun 24 13:33
MinceRi don't know why people are forcing parallel boot so hardJun 24 13:34
oiaohmSo that bad behavour by systemd is a bad behavour sysvinit systems has done.Jun 24 13:34
MinceRwhy risk having a server work for a few seconds delay that rarely happens?Jun 24 13:34
oiaohmNUMA systems make parallel boots required.Jun 24 13:34
oiaohmTo be able to init all the zoned hardware.Jun 24 13:35
MinceRoh, sysvinit systems have kernel paniced when the kernel was built without cgroups?Jun 24 13:35
MinceRwhy, can the zoned hardware not wait for its turn?Jun 24 13:35
cubexyzsysvinit works well enough for meJun 24 13:35
oiaohmMinceR: intertransfer at times requires both ends up.Jun 24 13:36
oiaohmMinceR: that is where NUMA becomes a bastard.Jun 24 13:36
oiaohmSo large NUMA systems do need a parallel boot.Jun 24 13:36
MinceRi doubt init has to do anything about thatJun 24 13:36
MinceRa script or binary could handle thatJun 24 13:36
MinceRalso, systemd's random behavior would seem more likely to break thatJun 24 13:37
oiaohmSo basically custom hack script or binary instead of something generic.Jun 24 13:37
oiaohmRemember openrc supports parallel boot properly.Jun 24 13:37
MinceRwell, openrc is not systemdJun 24 13:38
MinceRalso, openrc does let you turn it offJun 24 13:38
oiaohmMinceR: if you were argueing for openrc over systemd I would not have problem.Jun 24 13:38
MinceRit doesn't run on the "lennart decides everything for you" modelJun 24 13:38
oiaohmThe reality is sysvinit is borked in many cases.Jun 24 13:38
MinceRi'm generally arguing for sane init system+userland over systemdJun 24 13:39
oiaohmsystemd failing over missing cgroup and sysvinit failing strange because running in a cgroup means they are kinda mirrors of each other.Jun 24 13:39
MinceRi doubt thatJun 24 13:40
oiaohmsysvinit does not cope with PID 1 not being the real PID1Jun 24 13:40
MinceRsystemd failed over missing cgroup was because poettering can't be bothered to check pointers before dereferencing themJun 24 13:40
cubexyzexcept there were decades of Unix with sysvinit and not cgroups :)Jun 24 13:40
MinceRin this case, systemd happily used a null pointerJun 24 13:40
MinceRand when someone reported this, the response was basically "who cares, maybe somebody wants to fix this"Jun 24 13:40
MinceRcubexyz: but we're ignoring those decades in an attempt to prop up systemd!Jun 24 13:41
cubexyzthere was even sysvinit for PDP-11Jun 24 13:41
oiaohmMinceR: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74589  Jun 24 13:42
oiaohmSystemd these days formally refuses to boot when cgroups is missing.Jun 24 13:42
MinceRyes, that's the oneJun 24 13:42
oiaohmNote the last message.Jun 24 13:42
oiaohmso the differentational against NULL was removed.Jun 24 13:43
cubexyzI assume there are Linux distros without cgroups?Jun 24 13:43
MinceRagainst this particular NULL, yesJun 24 13:43
oiaohmcubexyz: remember docker will not work without cgroups either.Jun 24 13:43
MinceRhow much confidence does  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74589#c4   give you regarding kernel panics due to segfaults in pid1?Jun 24 13:43
oiaohmSo it becoming very rare to have a distrobution without cgroups.Jun 24 13:43
cubexyzwell I can answer my own question... of course older Linux didn't have cgroups so...Jun 24 13:44
MinceRit seems that the hacks at redcrap do not understand the specifics of coding for pid1.Jun 24 13:44
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MinceRyes, it's also becoming very rare to have a distro that is GNU/Linux and not systemd/LinuxJun 24 13:44
MinceRbut if you insist on choosing the most popular thing, there's android for you.Jun 24 13:45
MinceR(or if you exclude mobile devices, there's windows)Jun 24 13:45
oiaohmandroid does not use sysvinit it uses another strange beast.Jun 24 13:45
cubexyzfiguresJun 24 13:45
oiaohmembedded have bussybox init.   It don't screw up when operating inside cgroup.Jun 24 13:47
oiaohmBasically there are choices other than sysvinit.   Yet everyone end up focusing on sysvinit vs systemd so resulting in the case of ok what one has the techical means of working winning.Jun 24 13:48
oiaohmNow if the developers of systemd can make it work even that it has the techical means to work is another story.Jun 24 13:49
oiaohmNote andorid init system does not run away from using cgroups  https://android.googlesource.com/platform/system/core/+/master/rootdir/init.rcJun 24 13:50
MinceRi didn't say it didJun 24 13:50
oiaohmAll the init systems on Linux that stand a chance of remaining have 1 thing in common they support cgroups at least optionally.Jun 24 13:51
MinceRmy point is that if for someone the "it's used by more people therefore it's got to be better" argument seems reasonable, systemd/Linux is still not the right choice.Jun 24 13:51
MinceRactually, systemd apologists try to keep it framed as "sysvinit vs systemd"Jun 24 13:52
MinceRbecause they believe that that way they can win with features nobody uses and antifeaturesJun 24 13:52
MinceR(yes, i want multiseat support on my server and i don't care if it boots reliably!)Jun 24 13:52
MinceRalso, nobody tried to force me to use android init on GNU/Linux, somehowJun 24 13:53
oiaohmThat multiseat one there is more to it than you most likely want to know.Jun 24 13:53
MinceRin fact, nobody tried to force something they referred to as an init system on everybody, except the cult of systemd.Jun 24 13:53
MinceRyeah, i'm sureJun 24 13:54
MinceReverybody uses multiseat desktops in 2015 because computers are so expensiveJun 24 13:54
cubexyzI sure don't :)Jun 24 13:54
oiaohmYes you have missed it.   Most people think its about desktops.Jun 24 13:54
MinceRand the funny thing is, until there's revoke() in Linux, the thing they're swearing up and down systemd makes work will never workJun 24 13:55
oiaohmThe driver force for multiseat is gpu acceleration in services.Jun 24 13:55
oiaohmThis is the problem tech has evolved. Jun 24 13:56
oiaohmLike it not some point in the future it will be impossible to use sysvinit just because it cannot manage the stuff it needs to.Jun 24 13:57
cubexyzI think it's a bit old that for decades we had init, then bsd init then sysvinit and now we have like 20 init systemsJun 24 13:58
oiaohmOk you might choose to migrate then to openrcJun 24 13:58
cubexyzs/old/odd/Jun 24 13:58
oiaohmcubexyz: really not there have been many init systems for a long time.Jun 24 13:58
oiaohmJust most have not got major distrobution/solution followings.Jun 24 13:58
MinceRyeah, at some point in the future redcrap will have filled everything they can reach with hard dependencies on systemdJun 24 13:59
MinceRi've seen these tactics from another company beforeJun 24 13:59
cubexyzI think old IBM may have actually been worse than Microsoft in some waysJun 24 14:00
MinceRand they're trying to pressure Linus to turn Linux into a windows kernelJun 24 14:00
MinceRhttp://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/03764.htmlJun 24 14:00
cubexyzI can believe itJun 24 14:00
cubexyzbut I'm quite content to use older operating systemsJun 24 14:00
MinceRIBM used to have products that worked, didn't they?Jun 24 14:01
MinceRm$ only ever tried to force people to buy stolen, broken stuff from themJun 24 14:01
cubexyzIBM leased mainframes, you couldn't buy them in a certain eraJun 24 14:02
oiaohmMinceR: did you know that multi thread process support in Linux kernel had to be forced in the same way.Jun 24 14:02
cubexyzso IBM could say, ok this computer is out of serviceJun 24 14:02
MinceRoiaohm: i didn't and i don't think that makes this rightJun 24 14:02
cubexyzthe ultimate forced upgradeJun 24 14:02
MinceRtwo wrongs don't make a rightJun 24 14:02
oiaohmLinux kernel policy any complex feature has to be backed by Distrobutions before merging.Jun 24 14:03
MinceRcubexyz: at least those mainframes worked, didn't they?Jun 24 14:03
oiaohmMinceR: so you have a nice chicken and egg problem.Jun 24 14:03
MinceRlooks more like the policy (at least the policy grekh works with) is whatever gregkh's employers want goesJun 24 14:03
MinceRregardless of how it will break the kernelJun 24 14:03
oiaohmgrekh can only alone put stuff in the testing area of the kernel.Jun 24 14:04
MinceRyeah, if they got rid of Linus, he'd put everything in without reviewJun 24 14:05
MinceRjust like kdbusJun 24 14:05
cubexyzthen you switch to openbsd :)Jun 24 14:05
oiaohmgrekh is 14 to linus.Jun 24 14:05
MinceRopenbsd is missing features i use regularlyJun 24 14:05
cubexyzif the doomsday scenario happensJun 24 14:05
oiaohmSo 13 other poeple take linus place before greg would get a chance.Jun 24 14:05
MinceRalso notice that the cancer is already spreading to bsdJun 24 14:05
MinceRhubbard is pushing for launchd and other crApple crap in freebsd.Jun 24 14:06
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6256769Jun 24 14:06
r_schestowitz"It's called marketing, it's not a bribe. They are releasing a product and want it to be featured so that people are aware of its existence. Besides, unless you have photos and evidence of money being exchanged, your documentation is worthless. Your site is extremely subjective and used to spouting propaganda so I doubt you care about telling the truth though."Jun 24 14:06
MinceRyes, but those 13 people may be easier to manipulate.Jun 24 14:06
MinceRalso, i don't see who will port the intel gpu drivers to bsd-s (specifically netbsd)Jun 24 14:06
oiaohmfreebsd and other BSD are running into issues with the increasing KMS/DRI stuff and how this effects service operations.Jun 24 14:06
r_schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2008/11/10/summary-of-the-ms-bribed/Jun 24 14:07
cubexyzMinceR, ok, can you tell me what the missing features you needJun 24 14:07
MinceRhardware-assisted virtualization support, loadable kernel modulesJun 24 14:07
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oiaohmMinceR: the BSD idea to take in launchd comes back to the same problem as SMF and systemd/openrc are attempting to addressJun 24 14:09
MinceReven SMF doesn't run in pid1Jun 24 14:09
MinceRsomehow init was good enough for themJun 24 14:09
oiaohmSolaris is different.Jun 24 14:10
MinceRalso, i think systemd is trying to address a different "problem"Jun 24 14:10
oiaohmInit does not need to be PID1 under solaris to collect zombies.Jun 24 14:10
MinceRthe "problem" it addresses is that competition to redcrap exists.Jun 24 14:10
oiaohmYou assign the process id under solaris as your zombie collector.Jun 24 14:10
MinceRalso, it probably also addresses the "problem" that nsa finds it difficult to push backdoors into the kernel.Jun 24 14:10
oiaohmI do like solaris for the fact it simpler to replace init system when running.Jun 24 14:11
MinceRwhy the assumption that the service manager has to reap zombies?Jun 24 14:11
MinceRall pid1 needs to do is reap zombies and start rc.Jun 24 14:11
oiaohmNote solaris can assing multi to reap zombies so there is a reaper per zone.Jun 24 14:12
oiaohmSo really why does pid1 really need to reap zombies at all.Jun 24 14:12
oiaohmUnder solaris a process generating a lot of zombies costs it own zone cpu time not everyone elses.Jun 24 14:13
MinceRbecause linux doesn't have that reassignment feature yetJun 24 14:13
MinceRit also doesn't have zonesJun 24 14:14
oiaohmI was waiting for that.Jun 24 14:14
oiaohmPart of cgroups is the means to have a reaper per cgroup.Jun 24 14:14
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oiaohmSo its not that the Linux kernel does not have the feature.Jun 24 14:14
oiaohmits that the init systems don't use it.Jun 24 14:14
MinceRicJun 24 14:14
MinceRmaybe openrc will do it somedayJun 24 14:15
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oiaohmThis is my biggest problem with remaining on sysvinit is stacks of kernel features are just not used.Jun 24 14:15
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oiaohmSo why build a Linux kernel with all these good features and never use them.Jun 24 14:15
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MinceRif all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail?Jun 24 14:16
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oiaohmReally you could put it that sysvinit is I have a hammer and everything is a nail.Jun 24 14:16
oiaohmEven that there is a tool box of other tools I am not using them.Jun 24 14:17
oiaohmMinceR: https://lwn.net/Articles/415740/  It was this in 2010 that showed me that things was horiblely wrong.Jun 24 14:20
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oiaohmSo since the init system does not tell the kernel sheduler what should be grouped it has to go around making probing for data and hope it groups services up correctly and transfers them around in a NUMA system correctly.Jun 24 14:21
oiaohmYep at that point I was very clear that sysvinit was not long term workable.Jun 24 14:21
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oiaohmMinceR: so fine be anti-systemd but really don't claim that sysvinit is without major problems.   GUI on Linux systems stalling because background services nicked off with too much power is linked ot the kernel not having the information to handed out cpu time correctly.Jun 24 14:27
MinceRiirc someone said that at least one of the bsd-s does tty-based grouping tooJun 24 14:40
MinceRsysvinit not being long term workable does not make systemd workableJun 24 14:40
MinceRsomehow systemd on fedora 15 didn't bring these supposed improvementsJun 24 14:41
MinceRit was fragile and weirdJun 24 14:41
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/613705760112046080Jun 24 14:56
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MinceRlendows phone?Jun 24 14:57
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oiaohmMinceR: the bsd init system uses the tty correctly sysvinit does not.Jun 24 15:45
oiaohmMinceR: what annoy me is the lack of functional workable options in a init system for Linux.    Using sysvinit a stack of issues.   Using systemd stack of issues. using openrc stack of issues.    At least openrc and systemd have the possilbity of being fixed.Jun 24 15:46
oiaohmThe problem is people like look at sysvinit with rose color glasses so ingnoring is defective to the point of being worthless.Jun 24 15:47
oiaohmThose who hate systemd need to put resources into openrc or any other new design that can in fact be functional.Jun 24 15:48
oiaohmMinceR: Debian project choose systemd as the best out of a bad bunch.Jun 24 15:49
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oiaohmMinceR: basically is very easy to be upset with Distrobutions choosing systemd.   The problem becomes after doing a proper assessment of Linux kernel compadiblity what else that works can they choose.Jun 24 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KVM In Linux 4.2 Adds Support For x86 WriteJun 24 20:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Combining, SMM http://t.co/cIzVogvylCJun 24 20:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) and moreJun 24 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | KVM In Linux 4.2 Adds Support For x86 Write Combining, SMM - PhoronixJun 24 20:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gKpLu8YQQA (www.phoronix.com)Jun 24 20:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.2 Adds New Public Key Encryption API, Jitter RNG - PhoronixJun 24 20:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Galactic Civilizations III Will Arrive on LinuxJun 24 20:03
TweetTuxMachines                 After Vulkan Is ReleasedJun 24 20:03
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/5GUCUCeg76 (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 24 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Galactic Civilizations III Will Arrive on Linux After Vulkan Is Released - SoftpediaJun 24 20:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cossacks 3 to Arrive on Linux by the End ofJun 24 20:26
TweetTuxMachines                 2015 http://t.co/B0w0YmYdNEJun 24 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Cossacks 3 to Arrive on Linux by the End of 2015 - SoftpediaJun 24 20:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 24 20:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwwx9Jun 24 20:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crytek's powerful CryEngine is the latestJun 24 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 gaming engine to embrace LinuxJun 24 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/d4mPiRWu54 (www.pcworld.com)Jun 24 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Crytek's powerful CryEngine is the latest gaming engine to embrace Linux | PCWorldJun 24 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 preparing for the future.Jun 24 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KVM In Linux 4.2 Adds Support For x86 WriteJun 24 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Combining, SMM http://t.co/eKath45580Jun 24 20:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KVM In Linux 4.2 Adds Support For x86 Write Combining, SMM | Tux MachinesJun 24 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to install Linux on a ChromebookJun 24 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pc5moAmTUK (www.techradar.com)Jun 24 20:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | How to install Linux on a Chromebook | TechRadarJun 24 20:27
r_schestowitzThe sad part of this is that HR usually believes it and look for cloud administrators.Jun 24 20:38
r_schestowitz"https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6260834"Jun 24 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #linux Foundation is now calling sysadmin "Cloud Administration", substituting "server" with "cloud" for hype http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/836639-learn-cloud-administration-with-linux-foundation-instructor-michael-clarksonJun 24 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Learn Cloud Administration With Linux Foundation Instructor Michael Clarkson | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/mwx1j ]Jun 24 20:38
r_schestowitzCompany that employs such HR does not deserve talentJun 24 20:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ARM Officials Head to Red Hat Summit to TalkJun 24 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Servers http://t.co/g4GATJD5n1 (www.eweek.com)Jun 24 21:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwxc1Jun 24 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | ARM Officials Head to Red Hat Summit to Talk ServersJun 24 21:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arno, the first open source platform for NFVJun 24 21:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kj0x3SpFra (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 21:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwxc5Jun 24 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arno, the first open source platform for NFV | Tux MachinesJun 24 21:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xdg-App Announced For Desktop App SandboxingJun 24 21:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/sqxsyc3PBi (www.phoronix.com)Jun 24 21:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Xdg-App Announced For Desktop App Sandboxing - PhoronixJun 24 21:15
MinceRhttps://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/23/657Jun 24 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?Jun 24 21:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat: 'Linux Has Won The Data Center'Jun 24 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uTpRNFJQKA (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 22:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat: 'Linux Has Won The Data Center' | Tux MachinesJun 24 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Now Available for HaswellJun 24 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Chromebooks and Chromeboxes, UnofficiallyJun 24 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ilHkZbpcVY (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 22:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwy68Jun 24 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 Now Available for Haswell Chromebooks and Chromeboxes, Unofficially | Tux MachinesJun 24 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     8 open source platforms for IT considerationJun 24 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aHNcpIdI9Q (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 22:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwy6cJun 24 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 open source platforms for IT consideration | Tux MachinesJun 24 22:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny SBC runs Linux or Android on dime-sizedJun 24 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX6 module http://t.co/TqmKCGGieFJun 24 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny SBC runs Linux or Android on dime-sized i.MX6 module | Tux MachinesJun 24 23:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwya6Jun 24 23:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Massive open source email & collaborationJun 24 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 platform Roundcube beats Indiegogo funding goalJun 24 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IXqlebEiKE (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 24 23:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Massive open source email & collaboration platform Roundcube beats Indiegogo funding goal | Tux MachinesJun 24 23:11
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6263645Jun 24 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "fake accounts to "deter,"..."discredit" in political discussions on social media, uploaded fake book/magazine" http://boingboing.net/2015/06/22/gchqs-psy-ops-squad-targette.htmlJun 24 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> boingboing.net | GCHQ psychological operations squad targeted Britons for manipulation - Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/mw3u7 ]Jun 24 23:13
r_schestowitz"Those British are civilized. Here, in U.S. they go around showing photographs of targets to convicts on parole and offer rewards."Jun 24 23:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/brokenrib/status/613829523688153088Jun 24 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@brokenrib: @schestowitz exactly. "i mustn't speak up or i might be caught for a crime i'm not aware that i've been committing"Jun 24 23:14
r_schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/u/schestowitz "\o/"Jun 24 23:16
r_schestowitz" Apologies for this issue, it has now been resolved, we had a failure of one of our firewalls which caused intermittent connectivity whilst it was fully removed from the cluster."Jun 24 23:27
r_schestowitzback online nowJun 24 23:28
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/martingeddes/status/613835707807887360Jun 24 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@martingeddes: @schestowitz It's technical drivel - the "treating all content equally" has no basis in packet networking reality, and never has.Jun 24 23:28
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/613838977024532481Jun 24 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: The 'arbitrary rule' that was holding Microsoft back @schestowitz http://t.co/2y5QWK5QnvJun 24 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com | Mark Russinovich: Microsoft's resistance to open source was an 'arbitrary rule' - Business InsiderJun 24 23:41
r_schestowitzbullshit article http://techrights.org/2015/06/24/microsoft-loves-linux-nonsense/Jun 24 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Lie or the Fiction of Microsoft Tolerating GNU/Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mwykc ]Jun 24 23:42
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/613840603063930880Jun 24 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Yes. R & D tech projects always involve cooperation and some agreement. Which is the GNU/Linux project.Jun 24 23:49
r_schestowitzMicrosoft plays catchup and plays dirty, stillJun 24 23:50
r_schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9lie_MauresmoJun 24 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Amélie Mauresmo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/mwyo2 ]Jun 24 23:54
r_schestowitz"At the 2011 French Open, Mauresmo was set to be reunited with Llodra, making her professional return in the mixed doubles competition, but was disqualified before competing, as she had not re-registered for the anti-doping procedures required to compete on the tour."Jun 24 23:54
r_schestowitzhttp://lazio.1x.de/index.php/open-mauresmo-barred-from-mixed-doubles-over-anti-doping/Jun 24 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lazio.1x.de | Open-Mauresmo barred from mixed doubles over anti-doping | lazio [ http://ur1.ca/mwyoa ]Jun 24 23:56
*TweetTuxMachines @credaciousjames favourited 'Open source: Docker’s secret sauce | #DockerCon http://t.co/RUeVnG0DTT'Jun 25 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source: Docker’s secret sauce | #DockerCon | Tux MachinesJun 25 00:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Now Available for HaswellJun 25 00:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Chromebooks and Chromeboxes, UnofficiallyJun 25 00:20
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xwBU5i7SBK (news.softpedia.com)Jun 25 00:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwywiJun 25 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 Now Available for Haswell Chromebooks and Chromeboxes, Unofficially - SoftpediaJun 25 00:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny SBC runs Linux or Android on dime-sizedJun 25 00:20
TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX6 module http://t.co/GhmyRB7JbKJun 25 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tiny SBC runs Linux or Android on dime-sized i.MX6 module ·  LinuxGizmos.comJun 25 00:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Jun 25 00:20
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/613842090582257664Jun 25 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz I thought it was strange back in 1995. 20 years later ? Sounds like a criminal organisation to me.Jun 25 00:28
cubexyzone way Microsoft loses big time is when people repurpose old computersJun 25 00:33
cubexyzI can repurpose a pentium or even a 486 to do basic word processing, number crunching, old games, programming, etcJun 25 00:34
cubexyzof course it's hardly necessary to go 486, I just do that to save working computers from the landfillJun 25 00:46
cubexyzpeople are chunking out Pentium 4's and even newer stuffJun 25 00:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 25/6/2015: Docker Focus, NVIDIA OpeningJun 25 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Slightly http://t.co/TAHJVxWRaaJun 25 02:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 25/6/2015: Docker Focus, NVIDIA Opening Slightly | TechrightsJun 25 02:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/UBbRm3UalEJun 25 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 02:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux MachinesJun 25 02:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mwzxlJun 25 02:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Summit and FedoraJun 25 02:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uE6wceHCzm (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 02:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx00sJun 25 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Summit and Fedora | Tux MachinesJun 25 02:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/LacfPVPWuEJun 25 02:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJun 25 02:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx00tJun 25 02:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/XWIpFMU1mJJun 25 02:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 25 02:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/nboiuuySyhJun 25 02:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 25 02:21
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msb__US Congress passes TPP.  Corporations will be able to write laws.Jun 25 04:42
msb__Hey Meester, you want vitamin pill?  Only ten dollars.Jun 25 04:43
msb__Linux users face ten years in prison.Jun 25 04:43
cubexyzfor what?Jun 25 05:06
cubexyzback in 2004 SCO argued that 'open source' skirts export controlsJun 25 05:09
cubexyzand complained about "multiprocessing capabilities misappropriated from Unix"Jun 25 05:09
cubexyzbut SCO was dead wrong on both countsJun 25 05:10
cubexyzmore silly histrionics originating from MicrosoftJun 25 05:11
msb__No, originating from me.  But with TPP, corporations will be able to write laws and Obomber will fast-track them through.Jun 25 05:37
msb__Anything that diminishes corporate profits will be illegal.Jun 25 05:38
msb__Violators will be tried in corporate courts.  No kidding.Jun 25 05:39
cubexyzyou'll get a new president in 2016Jun 25 05:39
msb__Yep.  Guaranteed to be a fascist.Jun 25 05:40
msb__Bernie Sanders will never be allowed to run, let alone win.Jun 25 05:41
msb__But if he did, he would be accidently shot, poisoned and strangled.Jun 25 05:42
cubexyzseems to be a reasonable fellow thoughJun 25 05:42
msb__Just before his plane crashed.Jun 25 05:42
msb__Yeah, he's great.  But, like I said...Jun 25 05:42
msb__We'll probably get Hillary Clinton.  Jun 25 05:46
msb__The first woman president, like the first black president.Jun 25 05:46
msb__She was involved in the coup against Ukraine or the one against Venezuela, I forget which.Jun 25 05:46
msb__Turns out that _representative_ democracy doesnJun 25 05:47
msb__Turns out that _representative_ democracy doesn't work.Jun 25 05:47
msb__Bribery works.Jun 25 05:48
msb__Or failing that, assassination.Jun 25 05:48
msb__cubexyz: Did you get my essay about  psychopaths?Jun 25 05:49
cubexyzyes I didJun 25 05:51
cubexyzI have nothing against people smoking cannabis :)Jun 25 05:52
msb__Good.  Didn't say you did.Jun 25 05:54
msb__But of all the people I sent it to, only one responded.Jun 25 05:54
msb__The guy who figured out how the WTC was blown up.Jun 25 05:54
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cubexyzI just noticed ctrl + mouse wheel adjusts text size on firefoxJun 25 06:42
msb__INteresting!Jun 25 06:43
msb__A couple of days ago, my best friend decided he never wanted to talk with me again because I said that psychic phenomena are real, and he equates them with religion.Jun 25 06:44
cubexyzseems a bit extremeJun 25 06:45
msb__The same day, a neighbor was very nasty to me after doing some shopping for me.  I hadn't done anything to him at all.Jun 25 06:45
msb__Also, the same day my mother called me up.  I asked her to please not tell me anything I was doing wrong.  Everything she said to me was about things I was doing wrong.Jun 25 06:46
msb__I had the idea that the monster in all of them -- the Emotional Plague -- was watching me through their eyes.Jun 25 06:48
msb__Like this song:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3sURDS4IAJun 25 06:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Steppenwolf - Monster - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/mx207 ]Jun 25 06:48
msb__There's a monster on the loose, and it just sits there watching.Jun 25 06:49
msb__That's what inspired me to write about psychopathy.Jun 25 06:50
msb__The Plague is basically a memetic virus, propagating via emotional child abuse and anti-human culture.Jun 25 06:53
msb__It has evolved to attack people who become aware of it, to protect itself.Jun 25 06:53
msb__ HIV has done the same thing.Jun 25 06:54
cubexyza virus of the mind?Jun 25 06:54
msb__Neither is intelligent, but they have evolved.Jun 25 06:54
msb__Yes.Jun 25 06:54
msb__Think of scientology.Jun 25 06:54
msb__There are nucleic acid viruses, computer viruses, and memetic viruses.Jun 25 06:55
msb__Each is a packet of information that replicates by means of an information-processing system.Jun 25 06:56
msb__Cell nuclei, computers, human minds.Jun 25 06:56
cubexyzthat reminds me, I encountered a very clever chatbot yesterdayJun 25 06:56
cubexyzactually had a conversation with it, it remembers what you say tooJun 25 06:57
cubexyzhttp://www.mitsuku.comJun 25 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mitsuku.com | Mitsuku ChatbotJun 25 06:57
msb__did it pass the Turing test?Jun 25 06:57
cubexyzit answered all my questions except oneJun 25 06:57
cubexyz"What is the first number to contain the letter A?"Jun 25 06:58
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cubexyzso better than anything else I've tried, at least so farJun 25 06:58
oiaohmcubexyz: just turned up "better than anything" being what.Jun 25 06:59
cubexyzI asked what language it was written in, who is the prime minister of canada, and how old are you"Jun 25 06:59
cubexyzoiaohm, chatbotJun 25 06:59
cubexyzit was quite impressive Jun 25 06:59
msb__one thousand?Jun 25 06:59
cubexyzmsb__, yes Jun 25 06:59
msb__There's a monster on the loose, it's got our heads into a noose, and it just sits there watching.Jun 25 07:02
msb__The guy who responded to my essay said that maybe the monsters in those three people _were_ communicating with each other, via the collective unconscious.Jun 25 07:04
msb__Remember the very early psychiatrist chatbot program that was mistaken for a person over a tty line?Jun 25 07:09
msb__I can't recall the name of it.Jun 25 07:09
cubexyzeliza?Jun 25 07:09
cubexyzmitsuku is a much better chatbotJun 25 07:09
msb__similarJun 25 07:09
msb__https://web.stanford.edu/group/SHR/4-2/text/dialogues.htmlJun 25 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.stanford.edu | colorful personalities [ http://ur1.ca/mx25z ]Jun 25 07:14
msb__search for "accidental"Jun 25 07:15
msb__It was the DOCTOR program, based on ELIZA.  Written in LISP, of course.Jun 25 07:16
msb__I think that any system of intercommunicating information-processing systems with some random inputs will develop viruses.Jun 25 07:20
msb__Like a PA system will squeal if the gain is turned to high.  ThatJun 25 07:20
msb__That's not even digital, just analog.Jun 25 07:20
msb__to --> tooJun 25 07:21
msb__That song Monster talks about the Goddess America.Jun 25 07:22
msb__Viruses evolve because the more successful ones reproduce more.Jun 25 07:25
msb__I guess living organisms can be considered as biological viruses in cellular clothing.Jun 25 07:25
msb__It's their DNA that reproduces and evolves.Jun 25 07:26
msb__I think some biologist already came up with that idea.Jun 25 07:27
msb__Something like the self-interested gene, but using a different adjective.Jun 25 07:27
msb__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Selfish_GeneJun 25 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Selfish Gene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/mx29l ]Jun 25 07:29
msb__New TV series about computer "hackers" on USA channel, "Mr. Robot".  Already on tonight.Jun 25 07:39
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oiaohmhttps://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/SandboxedApps   Its the work on this is where something like kdbus makes sense.Jun 25 07:44
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msb__Steve Litt wrote a very nice article to the DNG list detailing various init systems:  https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150623.160531.1ad27818.en.htmlJun 25 07:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | [DNG] OFFLIST (from debian-user): No-systemd Debian [ http://ur1.ca/mx2ef ]Jun 25 07:49
oiaohmmsb__: problem here is most people don't know what they are reviewing.Jun 25 08:09
oiaohmsupports PID files.   As soon as you see that worry.Jun 25 08:10
cubexyzI'm still mulling over what my next Linux will beJun 25 08:10
cubexyzso far AntiX has worked well on one machineJun 25 08:10
oiaohmhttps://lwn.net/Articles/531114/  cgroup and zones make PID values not fixed.Jun 25 08:11
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msb__Yes, I have no interest in having cgroups and zones,.Jun 25 08:13
msb__is Antix apt or rpm?Jun 25 08:13
cubexyzit's based on debian wheezyJun 25 08:14
cubexyzso aptJun 25 08:14
oiaohmmsb__: do you have any interest in making sure a service cannot steal all the cpu time from the forground tasks.Jun 25 08:16
oiaohmmsb__: if you say yes to that you have to have something in the cgroup or zones class.Jun 25 08:16
oiaohmThen you see the liked of deamontools hey we wll track by process group.   http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26430771/linux-change-pgrp-process-group-during-c-program-execution   Guess what a process can change that value.Jun 25 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | Linux change pgrp (process group) during c program execution - Stack Overflow [ http://ur1.ca/mx2mi ]Jun 25 08:18
cubexyzthat's interesting, I run an old linux which has htop always running in a windowJun 25 08:19
cubexyzit's rare that httpd goes higher than 5% cpuJun 25 08:20
msb__Well I'm the only user on the system and if some program runs away I can stop it.Jun 25 08:20
cubexyzsendmail, mysqld, same thingJun 25 08:20
oiaohmcubexyz: really are you sureJun 25 08:20
oiaohmRemember httpd is a multi threaded beast.Jun 25 08:20
cubexyzaccess http://cubeman.org and I'll watch htopJun 25 08:21
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oiaohmSo unless you have something grouping all its bits up you cannot see how much it using.Jun 25 08:21
oiaohmhtop shows you indivual parts of httpd and the like not the whole.Jun 25 08:21
cubexyzoiaohm, I can just look at TIME+Jun 25 08:21
cubexyzand it's not muchJun 25 08:21
cubexyzirqbalance is the cpu pigJun 25 08:22
oiaohmNo time is on per httpd instance part.Jun 25 08:22
cubexyzand something called mixer_applet2 uses a lot of cpuJun 25 08:22
cubexyzwhich is a bit oddJun 25 08:23
oiaohmOne of the reasons we need cgroups and zone is to get true reading on what services are using.Jun 25 08:23
cubexyzoiaohm, I can just add up all the httpd cpu timesJun 25 08:23
oiaohmcubexyz: what about the httpd parts that terminate.Jun 25 08:23
cubexyzand it's not the bulk of cpu useJun 25 08:23
oiaohmYou time figure will always be short.Jun 25 08:23
oiaohmBasically this is one of the ignored bugs of sysvinit.Jun 25 08:24
cubexyzplus the load average is smallJun 25 08:24
oiaohmsysvinit lack of proper service cpu and resouce usage account.Jun 25 08:25
cubexyzhuh, actually bash uses the most cpuJun 25 08:25
cubexyzfollowed by X, followed by gnome-terminalJun 25 08:25
oiaohmYep bash/dash what ever you sysvinit is running on turns out to be insanely heavy.Jun 25 08:25
oiaohmThen add in shells as well.Jun 25 08:26
oiaohmYes a lot of complaints about systemd being heavy is mostly lack of in fact checking the usage.Jun 25 08:26
oiaohmsysvinit is a pig that does not do much.Jun 25 08:26
oiaohmrunit is lighter.Jun 25 08:27
cubexyzare you saying that bash under runit uses less cpu?Jun 25 08:27
cubexyzstill, it's only 52 hours over 229 daysJun 25 08:27
oiaohmrunit uses less bash instances to get stuff done.Jun 25 08:28
oiaohmsysvinit uses a hell load of instances.Jun 25 08:28
oiaohmBasically main reason to stay with sysvinit was compadiblity with code that already exists.   There is no techical reason to stay with sysvinit lot of techical reasons to leave for anything else.Jun 25 08:30
cubexyzbash cpu use on openbsd is basically zeroJun 25 08:31
cubexyzquite a differenceJun 25 08:31
cubexyzscore one for openbsd I supposeJun 25 08:31
oiaohmremember openbsd way better init systemJun 25 08:32
oiaohmAnd less cases of calling bash just to run a single command because they audit.Jun 25 08:32
oiaohmyes use system() in a openbsd program you will be questioned 1000 ways from sunday as this will call a shell before running anything.Jun 25 08:33
cubexyzok, the biggest cpu user is Xorg on openbsdJun 25 08:33
oiaohmAs kinda it should/should not be.Jun 25 08:33
cubexyzwhy kinda? :)Jun 25 08:34
oiaohmXorg suxs so it eats more cpu time than it should processing the 1000 and 1 options to do many things.Jun 25 08:34
oiaohmSo well audited systems should have seen Xorg disappear years ago.Jun 25 08:35
oiaohmcubexyz: watching the load spread under wayland is a lot more interesting.Jun 25 08:35
cubexyzX started on much slower VaxesJun 25 08:35
cubexyzit couldn't have been much of a cpu pig back thenJun 25 08:36
oiaohmWhy because because the load ends up more per applicaiton.Jun 25 08:36
cubexyzso the best OS is...? :)Jun 25 08:36
cubexyzopenbsd without X?Jun 25 08:36
oiaohmThe issue is they all have there good points.Jun 25 08:36
oiaohmopenbsd lot of highly audited and tidy applications.Jun 25 08:37
oiaohmdown right crappy GUI support and lacking in other hardware support.Jun 25 08:37
oiaohmLinux lots and lots of hardware support.   Lots of applications and a lot turn out to be crappy.Jun 25 08:37
cubexyzI bet they don't run X on IBM mainframesJun 25 08:38
cubexyzbut can't afford one of those Jun 25 08:38
cubexyzwould be interesting to look at thoughJun 25 08:38
oiaohmcubexyz: you need to stop making bets.  https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/paixperiences/entry/remotex11aixJun 25 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibm.com | Remote X11 Windows to AIX (POWER AIXperiences) [ http://ur1.ca/mx2rz ]Jun 25 08:39
oiaohmYes that X11 on  IBM AIX mainframeJun 25 08:39
oiaohmThe Unix world.   Hey it works bady that is good enough.Jun 25 08:40
msb__X is only taking 2% of my cpu.  7% if I move a big window around.  It's an old dual core cpu, so it's fine.Jun 25 08:40
cubexyzoiaohm, but there's no video card on the mainframe side right?Jun 25 08:41
msb__And as to Linux apps, in any particular field you can usually find a good one.Jun 25 08:41
cubexyzjust terminalsJun 25 08:41
oiaohmcubexyz: you can put a videocard in a mainframe power mainframe and use it directly with X11 with AIX Jun 25 08:41
cubexyzok, interestingJun 25 08:42
msb__I like Linux the best because it's the OS that the world community is rallying around.Jun 25 08:42
oiaohmNote no opengl support at all.Jun 25 08:42
cubexyzthat's not really Linux thoughJun 25 08:42
cubexyzbut I suppose they could do it on Linux as wellJun 25 08:42
oiaohmcubexyz: basically if you think openbsd video card driver issues are bad.  AIX issues make openbsd issues look anglic.Jun 25 08:43
msb__So I don't think that Poettering, systemd, and KDE4 should be permitted to destroy it.Jun 25 08:43
roy__plasma 5 here comes with systemdJun 25 08:43
msb__Linux is important for the human race.Jun 25 08:43
cubexyzmsb__, to me Linux is more like one arrow in my quiver, along with openbsd, plan 9, and ancient UnixesJun 25 08:43
roy__and it's quite a messJun 25 08:43
oiaohmI would have  to put AIX up there as one of worst OSs you could use as a desktop.Jun 25 08:44
roy__performance-wiseJun 25 08:44
cubexyzhuh, I thought AIX would be awesomeJun 25 08:44
cubexyzbut I guess notJun 25 08:44
oiaohmcubexyz: AIX is awesome as a server os.Jun 25 08:44
oiaohmcubexyz: unforntatlly every company making video cards have though hey 2d acceleration is all a server needs.Jun 25 08:45
msb__cubexyz: yes, but you are far more knowledgeable about computers than most people.  Most people only need one OS.Jun 25 08:45
msb__not a quiverJun 25 08:45
oiaohmmsb__: I am not exactly sure if plasma5 is bad.Jun 25 08:45
msb__KDE4 is very bad.  I doubt that 5 is any better.Jun 25 08:46
oiaohmplasma5 on adverage using less memory than kde 3 did.Jun 25 08:46
msb__KDE4 has killed the 20 virtual desktops of KDE3, which are extremely important.Jun 25 08:46
cubexyzI've switched to icewm mostlyJun 25 08:47
msb__Today's computers have plenty of memory.  That's not an important criterion.Jun 25 08:47
oiaohmKDE3 did not have activities.Jun 25 08:47
cubexyzstill use some KDE3 stuff Jun 25 08:47
oiaohmMost of what I use to use virtual desktops for under KDE 4.x the newer ones I use activies for.Jun 25 08:47
oiaohmAnd the fact you can neatly suspened activities is nice.Jun 25 08:48
msb__As far as I know, you can't have 20 different activity screens in KDE4 that you can switch between with a little compact applet in every screen that shows the names of the screens.  KDE3/Trinity has that.Jun 25 08:48
cubexyzI think openbsd is still using KDE3Jun 25 08:49
msb__Excellent!Jun 25 08:49
oiaohmmsb__: trinity maybeJun 25 08:49
msb__Also great!Jun 25 08:49
oiaohmBut last release kde3 did not have the activities bit.Jun 25 08:49
msb__Don't need them.Jun 25 08:49
cubexyzyou can choose KDE 3.5.10 or 4.14.3Jun 25 08:50
msb__If I want to suspend something I can go to that desktop and do it.Jun 25 08:50
oiaohmTrinity Project ported activities back.Jun 25 08:50
msb__Really?  I hadn't heard.Jun 25 08:50
oiaohmThe activies under KDE 4 if you have the applet set is line of red blue and green dots.Jun 25 08:52
msb__I need the names of the 20 desktops on the buttons.Jun 25 08:52
msb__I'm supposed to remember which of 20 dots is which?Jun 25 08:53
oiaohmWhen you click on the 3 dots it give you a list.Jun 25 08:53
oiaohmof activities you have namedJun 25 08:53
oiaohmWith unique desktop configurations and autorun application.Jun 25 08:54
msb__The kde3 switcher is one click.  The names are already there in the bottom panel.Jun 25 08:54
msb__...in the switcher appletJun 25 08:55
msb__Some big cheese in the KDE4 project wrote four very nasty articles saying that Trinity should not exist.Jun 25 08:56
oiaohmYou do have the activities barJun 25 08:56
msb__When I ask, he said he doesn't use desktops or activities.Jun 25 08:56
msb__What and where is the activities bar?Jun 25 08:57
oiaohmactivities bar is a widgetJun 25 08:57
oiaohmThat displays all your activities as buttons Jun 25 08:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     gnome desktop Notes: future plansJun 25 08:57
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oiaohmThat you can click on.Jun 25 08:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu phone boasts best design yetJun 25 08:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | New Ubuntu phone boasts best design yetJun 25 08:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Terraria Sandbox Game Plans A July LinuxJun 25 08:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Terraria Sandbox Game Plans A July Linux Release | GamingOnLinuxJun 25 08:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LEGO Minifigures Online Is Officially Coming ToJun 25 08:58
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msb__The activity name is in each button?Jun 25 08:58
oiaohmmsb__: yep activity name on each button.Jun 25 08:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Smartwatches: Why you might want to buy Pebble,Jun 25 08:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Android or Samsung http://t.co/6tl7A2rm1bJun 25 08:58
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oiaohmBasically KDE 4 is focused on the activity model.Jun 25 08:58
*TweetTuxMachines @FlotskayaNice favourited 'gnome desktop Notes: future plans https://t.co/5hFvQvsXxG'Jun 25 08:58
oiaohmIf you try to use KDE 4 by the pager model its going to be out to get you.Jun 25 08:59
oiaohmI normally run 2 virtual desktops per activity.Jun 25 08:59
msb__So it has two rows of ten buttons each, is just big enough to hold the names, doesn't have anything in the buttons but the names, and can live in the bottom panel?Jun 25 08:59
oiaohmmsb__:  the activies bar basically can be used instead of the old pager.Jun 25 09:00
msb__So it has two rows of ten buttons each, is just big enough to hold the names, doesn't have anything in the buttons but the names, and can live in the bottom panel?Jun 25 09:00
msb__The old pager is maximally convenient because it has the characteristics I've listed.  That's why I'm asking.Jun 25 09:04
msb__But isn't KDE4/5 now hooked up with systemd?Jun 25 09:04
msb__Not surprising those two gangs got together.Jun 25 09:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat technologist talks NFV innovations andJun 25 09:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconangle.com | Red Hat technologist talks NFV innovations and an open source world | #RHSummit | SiliconANGLEJun 25 09:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Not OK, Google: Chromium voice extension pulledJun 25 09:06
TweetTuxMachines                 after spying concerns http://t.co/QnDFVjxc4YJun 25 09:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Not OK, Google: Chromium voice extension pulled after spying concerns | Tux MachinesJun 25 09:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     WebKitGTK+ to Bring Better Support for Wayland,Jun 25 09:06
TweetTuxMachines                 New Features in GNOME 3.18Jun 25 09:06
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oiaohmmsb__:  KDE4/5 is linked to logind stuff.   But that is emulated in BSD and other places.Jun 25 09:06
oiaohmopenbsd guys agree that a system like logind is better than the old evil of consolekitJun 25 09:07
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r_schestowitz> "Per a recent report from Colorado, it takes 1,400 truck trips just toJun 25 09:11
r_schestowitz> frack a well — and many hundreds more to haul the wastewater away andJun 25 09:11
r_schestowitz> dump it into evaporation ponds."Jun 25 09:11
r_schestowitz>Jun 25 09:11
r_schestowitz> http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/fracking-whats-killing-the-babies-of-vernal-utah-20150622Jun 25 09:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | What's Killing the Babies of Vernal, Utah? | Rolling Stone [ http://ur1.ca/mx30z ]Jun 25 09:11
msb__http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/31515-unregulated-capitalism-is-destroying-the-planetJun 25 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truth-out.org | Unregulated Capitalism Is Destroying the Planet [ http://ur1.ca/mx31h ]Jun 25 09:13
r_schestowitz>Jun 25 09:14
r_schestowitz> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/06/22/net-of-insecurity-part-3/Jun 25 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | These hackers warned the Internet would become a security disaster. Nobody listened. | The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/mw7sm ]Jun 25 09:14
r_schestowitz>Jun 25 09:14
r_schestowitz> Gates revisionism.  He was still calling the Internet a passing fad atJun 25 09:14
r_schestowitz> that time.  Also M$ did not create Internet Explorer, that was rippedJun 25 09:14
r_schestowitz> off from Spyglass Mosaic.Jun 25 09:14
r_schestowitzNot as bad as that recent Telegraph piece which disappeared Netscape and glorified IE. Remember that one? Covered in the site...Jun 25 09:14
r_schestowitzmsb__: thanks for the linkJun 25 09:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Boxes to Add CD-ROM Device Support forJun 25 09:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The new Linux user’s hardware buying guideJun 25 09:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 ways BlackBerry can be unique on AndroidJun 25 09:15
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msb__"There's no green there anymore.  They killed their mother."  -- AvatarJun 25 09:15
msb__Those greedpig psychopaths are going to push something too far and it's going to break, and we're all going to die.Jun 25 09:15
r_schestowitz>Jun 25 09:19
r_schestowitz> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/06/senate-passes-fast-track-we-can-still-prevent-tpp-train-wreckJun 25 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | The Senate Passes Fast Track—But We Can Still Prevent the TPP Train Wreck | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/mwxud ]Jun 25 09:19
r_schestowitz>Jun 25 09:19
r_schestowitz> -Jun 25 09:19
r_schestowitz>Jun 25 09:19
r_schestowitz> http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/246035-senate-approves-fast-track-sending-trade-bill-to-white-houseJun 25 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Senate approves fast-track, sending trade bill to White House | TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/mx339 ]Jun 25 09:19
r_schestowitz>Jun 25 09:19
r_schestowitz> Meanwhile the media, and especially "social" "media", has been dutifullyJun 25 09:19
r_schestowitz> distracting the public with yammerings about flags.Jun 25 09:19
r_schestowitzI saw that, but is there a direct connection? There are things to distract the public with all the time, even sports and celebs.Jun 25 09:19
msb__Interesting that Enrico Fermi helped invent nuclear fission, which may be one of the things responsible for the Fermi Paradox -- Where are all the intelligent civilizations?Jun 25 09:20
msb__"You think everything is a conspiracy."  "Everything is!"  -- The AbyssJun 25 09:22
msb__The corporations/government control the media.  There are things to distract the public with all the time, but they are used only when the psychopaths want to.Jun 25 09:24
msb__The govt is passing SECRET LAWS, which the public isn't even allowed to know what they will order us to do.  This is democracy?Jun 25 09:26
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amarsh04weird, I had a Microsoft twitter account follow me: http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/ - I might block themJun 25 09:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MythTV A Complete Home Media Center And DigitalJun 25 09:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server 7.1 for 64-bitJun 25 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     System76's Ubuntu Computer Sale for July 4Jun 25 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat CEO: Open Source Isn't Just about theJun 25 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 License http://t.co/dDLE12lhm4Jun 25 09:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Red Hat CEO: Open Source Isn't Just about the License - DatamationJun 25 09:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Fan Images https://t.co/F6G6jHSpHzJun 25 09:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fan Images | Ubuntu InsightsJun 25 09:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GTK+ 3.17.4 Brings In New Features, Fixes OverJun 25 09:43
TweetTuxMachines                 35 Bugs http://t.co/V452xj858cJun 25 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GTK+ 3.17.4 Brings New Features, Fixes over 35 Bugs - SoftpediaJun 25 09:43
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx3a4Jun 25 09:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Switch toJun 25 09:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Python 3.5 Ahead of Ubuntu 16.04 LTSJun 25 09:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6Exouz202W (news.softpedia.com)Jun 25 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Switch to Python 3.5 Ahead of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - SoftpediaJun 25 09:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx3a5Jun 25 09:43
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/garethnelson/status/613993082346950656Jun 25 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@garethnelson: What The Fuck https://t.co/qEMLW1mncEJun 25 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We need #systemd ... because WALLPAPERS! https://t.co/wCb6lQbEWgJun 25 09:54
*TweetTuxMachines @VadimkaUsimov favourited 'GNOME Boxes to Add CD-ROM Device Support for...'Jun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Calligra's Kexi 3.0, a Microsoft AccessJun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Alternative for Linux, to Use KDE Frameworks 5Jun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JYACwjZ7F6 (news.softpedia.com)Jun 25 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calligra's Kexi 3.0, a Microsoft Access Alternative for Linux, to Use KDE Frameworks 5 - SoftpediaJun 25 10:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     E3 2015 game profile: Goliath for Mac, PC andJun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux http://t.co/aByNPVbj43Jun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.technologytell.com)Jun 25 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologytell.com | E3 2015 game profile: Goliath for Mac, PC and Linux | TechnologyTellJun 25 10:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     System76's Ubuntu Computer Sale for July 4Jun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Might be the Biggest EverJun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/EMGuG0fZId (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 10:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76's Ubuntu Computer Sale for July 4 Might be the Biggest Ever | Tux MachinesJun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat CEO: Open Source Isn't Just about theJun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 License http://t.co/HIoDE96jDAJun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat CEO: Open Source Isn't Just about the License | Tux MachinesJun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx3fnJun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GTK+ 3.17.4 Brings In New Features, Fixes OverJun 25 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 35 Bugs http://t.co/7ZBDU1iEb3Jun 25 10:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 10:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx3foJun 25 10:03
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6265449Jun 25 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GTK+ 3.17.4 Brings In New Features, Fixes Over 35 Bugs | Tux MachinesJun 25 10:03
r_schestowitz"or nothing"Jun 25 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Smartwatches: Why you might want to buy Pebble, Android or Samsung http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/smartwatches-why-you-might-want-to-buy-pebble-android-or-samsung-1.3125706Jun 25 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cbc.ca | Smartwatches: Why you might want to buy Pebble, Android or Samsung - Technology & Science - CBC News [ http://ur1.ca/mx3fq ]Jun 25 10:03
r_schestowitz>>> >>Jun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz>>> >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/06/22/net-of-insecurity-part-3/Jun 25 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | These hackers warned the Internet would become a security disaster. Nobody listened. | The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/mw7sm ]Jun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz>>> >>Jun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz>>> >> Gates revisionism.  He was still calling the Internet a passing fad atJun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz>>> >> that time.  Also M$ did not create Internet Explorer, that was rippedJun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz>>> >> off from Spyglass Mosaic.Jun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz>> > Jun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz>> > Not as bad as that recent Telegraph piece which disappeared Netscape and glorified IE. Remember that one? Covered in the site...Jun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz>> > Jun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz>> > Jun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz> Yeah, I remember that one too.  I think we are seeing more.  As the veryJun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz> old articles disappear, a little more is left off each new generation ofJun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz> articles as the resulting construction steps closer and closer to theJun 25 10:04
r_schestowitz> fantasy by Gates and his minions.Jun 25 10:04
r_schestowitzIt's a PR problem. That's what they pay for.Jun 25 10:04
cubexyzha, spyglass licensed technology from NCSA, _then_ Microsoft licensed spyglass mosaic in 1995Jun 25 10:12
cubexyzbut the true originator was NCSA MosaicJun 25 10:12
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/spyglass1-mosaic.jpgJun 25 10:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Fan Images http://t.co/ktYdhGsGarJun 25 11:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Fan Images | Tux MachinesJun 25 11:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Switch toJun 25 11:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Python 3.5 Ahead of Ubuntu 16.04 LTSJun 25 11:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/vGZgN5TmOy (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 11:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Switch to Python 3.5 Ahead of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux MachinesJun 25 11:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source: from side to center stageJun 25 11:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QWML4eTUUR (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 11:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source: from side to center stage | Tux MachinesJun 25 11:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJun 25 11:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proteus from Entroware Is a Powerful GamingJun 25 11:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Laptop Running Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATEJun 25 11:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zFBFJCnZIb (news.softpedia.com)Jun 25 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Proteus from Entroware Is a Powerful Gaming Laptop Running Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATE - SoftpediaJun 25 11:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top Selling Games on Steam for Linux DominatedJun 25 11:52
TweetTuxMachines                 by Counter-Strike: Global OffensiveJun 25 11:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jHqsjPHgHj (news.softpedia.com)Jun 25 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Top Selling Games on Steam for Linux Dominated by Counter-Strike: Global Offensive - SoftpediaJun 25 11:52
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/614023285748178944Jun 25 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz I believe various open source implementations of X have had some pretty spectacular holes over the decades, too.Jun 25 11:55
r_schestowitzRight, but not fonts in particularJun 25 11:55
r_schestowitzAlso, the last major rendering flaw in X was almost 8 years ago, IIRCJun 25 11:56
r_schestowitzmissing bracket or quoteJun 25 11:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The First Ubuntu Fan Images for Google CloudJun 25 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Engine and Amazon AWS AnnouncedJun 25 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/D1i3R202vL (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 25 11:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | The First Ubuntu Fan Images for Google Cloud Engine and Amazon AWS Announced - SoftpediaJun 25 11:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/cwYhQgw03nJun 25 11:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJun 25 11:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proteus from Entroware Is a Powerful GamingJun 25 12:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Laptop Running Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATEJun 25 12:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CZ9WhTWIGg (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 12:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proteus from Entroware Is a Powerful Gaming Laptop Running Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATE | Tux MachinesJun 25 12:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Fan http://t.co/tVfZci0bAoJun 25 12:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Fan | Tux MachinesJun 25 12:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mageia 5, Ubuntu Phones, and TumbleweedJun 25 12:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 5, Ubuntu Phones, and Tumbleweed | Tux MachinesJun 25 12:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora 20 Peach Reached EOL.Jun 25 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hW366XzXgd (kororaproject.org)Jun 25 12:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kororaproject.org | Korora ProjectJun 25 12:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Has KDE Lost the Evolutionary Advantage?Jun 25 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/naoKjN6T8F (www.datamation.com)Jun 25 12:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Has KDE Lost the Evolutionary Advantage? - DatamationJun 25 12:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 Looks To Make It Easy To Test CloudJun 25 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Images http://t.co/MoGXhTgsCfJun 25 12:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 23 Looks To Make It Easy To Test Cloud Images - PhoronixJun 25 12:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Ubuntu MATE Boutique is now open for businessJun 25 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 and will offer you all sorts of interestingJun 25 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 products" http://t.co/UPzr5reDVJJun 25 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | The Ubuntu MATE Boutique Is Now Open for Business - SoftpediaJun 25 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jun 25 12:25
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/614031500636487680Jun 25 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Is there a more private alternative or is the lesson that search is inherently not private?Jun 25 12:27
r_schestowitzI'm still looking. I think ixquick with Tor would work.Jun 25 12:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     F2FS Brings Per-File Encryption With Linux 4.2Jun 25 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/D1FU2ln89K (www.phoronix.com)Jun 25 12:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | F2FS Brings Per-File Encryption With Linux 4.2 - PhoronixJun 25 12:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/cwYhQgw03nJun 25 12:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJun 25 12:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Eclipse 4.5 "Mars" Adds Docker Support, EarlyJun 25 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Java 9 Support http://t.co/42lKpBgXJdJun 25 12:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Eclipse 4.5 "Mars" Adds Docker Support, Early Java 9 Support - PhoronixJun 25 12:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mr. Robot TV Show Talks About Linux, KDE,Jun 25 12:57
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME, Hacking, and It's AwesomeJun 25 12:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9DHZ4pxqTb (news.softpedia.com)Jun 25 12:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Has KDE Lost the Evolutionary Advantage?Jun 25 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BJBJGKqAya (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 12:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Has KDE Lost the Evolutionary Advantage? | Tux MachinesJun 25 12:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 Looks To Make It Easy To Test CloudJun 25 12:58
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__martin__http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/24/us-norway-security-idUSKBN0P42HV20150624Jun 25 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Norway needs more digital border surveillance, spy agency says | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/mx584 ]Jun 25 13:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Interviews http://t.co/f2aA3RZDQwJun 25 13:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Interviews | Tux MachinesJun 25 13:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     F2FS Brings Per-File Encryption With Linux 4.2Jun 25 13:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/S9WaZcJFpQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 13:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | F2FS Brings Per-File Encryption With Linux 4.2 | Tux MachinesJun 25 13:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mr. Robot TV Show Talks About Linux, KDE,Jun 25 13:07
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME, Hacking, and It's AwesomeJun 25 13:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/MlPPaBYLok (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 13:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mr. Robot TV Show Talks About Linux, KDE, GNOME, Hacking, and It's Awesome | Tux MachinesJun 25 13:07
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6266219Jun 25 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Mr. Robot TV Show Talks About Linux, KDE, GNOME, Hacking, and It's Awesome http://news.softpedia.com/news/mr-robot-tv-show-talks-about-linux-kde-gnome-hacking-and-it-s-awesome-485230.shtmlJun 25 17:10
r_schestowitz"Going to check this one out."Jun 25 17:10
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6266031Jun 25 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Top Selling Games on Steam for Linux Dominated by Counter-Strike: Global Offensive http://news.softpedia.com/news/top-selling-games-on-steam-for-linux-dominated-by-counter-strike-global-offensive-485252.shtmlJun 25 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Top Selling Games on Steam for Linux Dominated by Counter-Strike: Global Offensive - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/mx7ej ]Jun 25 17:13
r_schestowitz"#war"Jun 25 17:13
r_schestowitzKilling as a gameJun 25 17:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/toscalix/status/614094850187743232Jun 25 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@toscalix: @schestowitz gcc 5 is a major change that affects the whole distro. But don't worry, openSUSE will be the first usable distro to ship it ;-)Jun 25 17:14
r_schestowitzAh, I won't be using opensuse though (Novell)Jun 25 17:14
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/614093078647828480Jun 25 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: http://t.co/WzS8ZwyjgD -> http://t.co/gHfIoTdhMz. You were right not to trust them and to create Mer, @stskeeps, @lbt_, @w00teh, @cybette.Jun 25 17:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mobilelinuxnews.com | Tizen - The Emperor has no clothesJun 25 17:17
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/614095848478130177Jun 25 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz See https://t.co/gVPGbZLgt0.Jun 25 17:18
r_schestowitzSamsung does not and never did grasp FOSSJun 25 17:18
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/cmsconnected/status/614104988910903297Jun 25 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@cmsconnected: @schestowitz thoughts on #proprietary vs. #opensource? Join the debate by registering for our show on June 30th: http://t.co/lIUzb49yAWJun 25 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cms-connected.com | Open Source vs Proprietary DebateJun 25 17:18
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nomeDoes this mean A/V software is bad?  http://fossforce.com/2015/06/the-nsa-windows-antivirus/Jun 25 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | The NSA, Windows & Antivirus | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/mx80n ]Jun 25 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Buying a Meizu MX4 http://t.co/8JmUHn698UJun 25 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 19:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx8fsJun 25 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Buying a Meizu MX4 | Tux MachinesJun 25 19:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Number of Official Download for Ubuntu MATEJun 25 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Is Impressive http://t.co/JVkF2RuPnUJun 25 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 19:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx8fvJun 25 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Number of Official Download for Ubuntu MATE Is Impressive | Tux MachinesJun 25 19:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Gets Patches for Tomcat ExploitsJun 25 19:30
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dgVeXpRBKs (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 19:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx8oyJun 25 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Gets Patches for Tomcat Exploits | Tux MachinesJun 25 19:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turn Your Raspberry Pi into a NetworkJun 25 19:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Monitoring Tool http://t.co/S6oa7KDXUYJun 25 19:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 19:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx8p0Jun 25 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Turn Your Raspberry Pi into a Network Monitoring Tool | Tux MachinesJun 25 19:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What's Coming in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.2?Jun 25 19:30
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/3aT1eYeg4Y (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 19:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx8p1Jun 25 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What's Coming in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.2? | Tux MachinesJun 25 19:30
*TweetTuxMachines @valureach followed @tuxmachinesJun 25 20:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GitHub launches Atom 1.0, the first stableJun 25 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 version of its open-source text editorJun 25 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xVx9pgON2Y (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 20:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx8zeJun 25 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GitHub launches Atom 1.0, the first stable version of its open-source text editor | Tux MachinesJun 25 20:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Python Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSesJun 25 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/af1yTtIKkW (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 20:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx8zjJun 25 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Tux MachinesJun 25 20:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     EXT4 Has Many Cleanups & Fixes For Linux 4.2Jun 25 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/HeYQCqVZOM (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 21:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx9fdJun 25 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EXT4 Has Many Cleanups & Fixes For Linux 4.2 | Tux MachinesJun 25 21:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.17.3 released http://t.co/kPn48MPC2sJun 25 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 21:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx9fgJun 25 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.17.3 released | Tux MachinesJun 25 21:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Jonathan Riddell Resigns from Kubuntu CommunityJun 25 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Council http://t.co/BlFjQVVC40Jun 25 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 25 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jonathan Riddell Resigns from Kubuntu Community Council | Tux MachinesJun 25 21:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mx9fhJun 25 21:00
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Did you cover that spyware module that Google infected Chromium with?Jun 26 00:05
DaemonFCIt caught Debian by surprise. Ubuntu has had whether or not to replace Firefox with Chromium up for a vote before.Jun 26 00:06
MinceRi'm not sure if debian even cares anymoreJun 26 00:06
DaemonFCFirefox isn't so far gone that it can't be fixed.Jun 26 00:10
MinceRthey don't seem to care eitherJun 26 00:10
cubexyzsounds like a case of upgradeotoesis :)Jun 26 00:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.1 Speeds Up Intel Atom SoCsJun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rqwE1Ld14Q (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxb8eJun 26 00:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.1 Speeds Up Intel Atom SoCs | Tux MachinesJun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Releases Now Available forJun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Download http://t.co/mvKUfnMxwqJun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 00:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Releases Now Available for Download | Tux MachinesJun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxb8fJun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Released with KDE PlasmaJun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines                 5.3 and KDE Apps 15.04.1 - GalleryJun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QPhmqjiz86 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 00:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxb8gJun 26 00:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Released with KDE Plasma 5.3 and KDE Apps 15.04.1 - Gallery | Tux MachinesJun 26 00:24
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cubexyzhttps://i.imgflip.com/ge8kb.jpgJun 26 03:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why Linux Web Hosting Is Good For Bloggers AndJun 26 03:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Entrepreneurs http://t.co/LNHHNkKRXMJun 26 03:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Linux Web Hosting Is Good For Bloggers And Entrepreneurs | Tux MachinesJun 26 03:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxcxeJun 26 03:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cinnamon 2.6 Released With New Features &Jun 26 03:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Changes, Install In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid/14.10Jun 26 03:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Utopic/14.04 Trusty/Oth...Jun 26 03:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/T8NT6Aqrlu (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 03:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxcxfJun 26 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.6 Released With New Features & Changes, Install In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid/14.10 Utopic/14.04 Trusty/Other Related Derivatives | Tux MachinesJun 26 03:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Number of Official Download for Ubuntu MATEJun 26 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Is Impressive http://t.co/fElYna3HXaJun 26 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | The Number of Official Download for Ubuntu MATE Is Impressive - SoftpediaJun 26 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jun 26 07:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxekqJun 26 07:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Gets Patches for Tomcat ExploitsJun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/bqYVAgme23 (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxemmJun 26 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Gets Patches for Tomcat Exploits - SoftpediaJun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turn Your Raspberry Pi into a NetworkJun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Monitoring Tool http://t.co/IY0Z1Ov4eUJun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.makeuseof.com)Jun 26 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Turn Your Raspberry Pi into a Network Monitoring ToolJun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxemnJun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What's Coming in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.2?Jun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/X5YQlnIDyK (www.serverwatch.com)Jun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxemoJun 26 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.serverwatch.com | What's Coming in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.2?Jun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Python Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSesJun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8zd6dPknQq (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 26 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Python Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes - SoftpediaJun 26 08:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxempJun 26 08:00
*TweetTuxMachines @ugosan favourited 'Python Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/8zd6dPknQq'Jun 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     EXT4 Has Many Cleanups & Fixes For Linux 4.2Jun 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jiREyySRsh (www.phoronix.com)Jun 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxen1Jun 26 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | EXT4 Has Many Cleanups & Fixes For Linux 4.2 - PhoronixJun 26 08:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.17.3 released http://t.co/DYLbqkARxmJun 26 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (permalink.gmane.org) http://t.co/F2x02HMFWyJun 26 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org | GNOME 3.17.3 releasedJun 26 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 26 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME 3.17.3 Released - PhoronixJun 26 08:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxenoJun 26 08:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Jonathan Riddell Resigns from Kubuntu CommunityJun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Council http://t.co/mnIeIST9mDJun 26 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Jonathan Riddell Resigns from Kubuntu Community Council - SoftpediaJun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxeoqJun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.1 Speeds Up Intel Atom SoCsJun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/FrRvo7d1oP (www.linux.com)Jun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxeorJun 26 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux 4.1 Speeds Up Intel Atom SoCs | Linux.comJun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Releases Now Available forJun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Download http://t.co/Hmwub0wmaqJun 26 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Releases Now Available for Download - SoftpediaJun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com) MATE too:Jun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wFZ4SYEEpy (news.softpedia.com)Jun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxeosJun 26 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE 15.10 Alpha 1 Arrives with Better Support for iOS Devices - Gallery - SoftpediaJun 26 08:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Released with KDE PlasmaJun 26 08:07
TweetTuxMachines                 5.3 and KDE Apps 15.04.1 - GalleryJun 26 08:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/N02UOvVlLs (news.softpedia.com)Jun 26 08:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxep3Jun 26 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Released with KDE Plasma 5.3 and KDE Apps 15.04.1 - Gallery - SoftpediaJun 26 08:07
*TweetTuxMachines @Linux_topics_us favourited 'Ubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Releases Now Available for...'Jun 26 08:07
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6266135Jun 26 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Millions of fools actually think that #duckduckgo gives them #privacy (it doesn't, it's a mirage) http://searchengineland.com/duckduckgo-surpasses-10-million-daily-queries-223787Jun 26 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> searchengineland.com | DuckDuckGo Surpasses 10 Million Daily Queries [ http://ur1.ca/mx8g0 ]Jun 26 08:42
r_schestowitz"I like DDG. Google keeps getting more an more evil. DDG has never promised absolute privacy (they will comply with government requests for data), but their claim to fame are getting you out of the filter bubble and the bangs. The only bad things I've heard about DDG have been from anonymous sources."Jun 26 08:42
r_schestowitz"Jun 26 08:42
r_schestowitzthey will comply with government requests for data...Jun 26 08:42
r_schestowitzI use yandex - it's outside U.S. and EU regulation.Jun 26 08:42
r_schestowitzIt's also very good - with translations etc.Jun 26 08:42
r_schestowitz"Jun 26 08:42
r_schestowitzhttp://50.80.140.55/photo_album/chron/desktop/gateway_index.htmlJun 26 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-50.80.140.55 | History of old boxes from the trash [ http://ur1.ca/jb4ai ]Jun 26 08:42
r_schestowitz"That's my personal IP, df5t0rw. This is my mighty server collection, and the current 20 year old AMD Athlon slot box. Feel free to look around. It's undergoing a brute force root password attack right now. If someone wanted to take it down, I don't think they would have a hard time. "Jun 26 08:43
r_schestowitzhttp://50.80.140.55/photo_album/chron/desktop/2011_11_08-tacoma_is_down_and_out/.llgal/thumb_img_0011.jpgJun 26 08:43
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6264574Jun 26 08:44
cubexyzAthlon isn't 20 years oldJun 26 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?Jun 26 08:44
r_schestowitz"Oh yes, it was."Jun 26 08:44
r_schestowitzcubexyz: maybe 15Jun 26 08:44
r_schestowitzor 17Jun 26 08:44
cubexyzjune 1999 :)Jun 26 08:44
cubexyzPentium Pro system would be about 20 years old nowJun 26 08:46
cubexyzI have a 486 from 1993 but it's one of those all-in-one eduquestsJun 26 08:46
cubexyzterrible designJun 26 08:47
cubexyzmy Amiga 500 is 28 years oldJun 26 08:47
cubexyza bit scary how fast time passesJun 26 08:48
cubexyzbut to my mind running an old computer isn't a bad thingJun 26 08:48
cubexyzmy first PC clone, I still have the literature:Jun 26 08:49
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/futuretron-286.jpgJun 26 08:49
cubexyzack, you shouldn't stuff a k6 into an XT boxJun 26 08:52
cubexyzand at least have one non-x86 boxJun 26 08:54
r_schestowitzI remember 1999Jun 26 08:55
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/amiga-with-joystick.jpgJun 26 08:55
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*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'Red Hat brings PaaS Linux Docker Containers with...'Jun 26 09:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Now They’ve Gone And Stuck Android Onto AJun 26 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Graphing Calculator http://t.co/3ULl728B7qJun 26 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 09:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxfamJun 26 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now They’ve Gone And Stuck Android Onto A Graphing Calculator | Tux MachinesJun 26 09:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rust 1.1 stable, the Community Subteam, andJun 26 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 RustCamp http://t.co/tAlJcXAU8OJun 26 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rust 1.1 stable, the Community Subteam, and RustCamp | Tux MachinesJun 26 09:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxfapJun 26 09:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Is Still Using LXDE AsJun 26 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 LXQt Is in Development - Screenshot TourJun 26 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Exzs47WEqB (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 09:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxfaqJun 26 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Is Still Using LXDE As LXQt Is in Development - Screenshot Tour | Tux MachinesJun 26 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu 15.04 Running on Microsoft'sJun 26 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Surface Pro 3 Tablet http://t.co/n6gXrqIdJzJun 26 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: Ubuntu 15.04 Running on Microsoft's Surface Pro 3 Tablet | Tux MachinesJun 26 09:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxfarJun 26 09:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat moves deeper into cloud analyticsJun 26 09:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YTw480zWOI (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 09:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxfc9Jun 26 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat moves deeper into cloud analytics | Tux MachinesJun 26 09:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 22 Release Party - Panama Jun 26 09:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aQ1A1J5Krv (www.abdelmartinez.com)Jun 26 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abdelmartinez.com | POTTY'S PORTAL: Fedora 22 Release Party - PanamaJun 26 09:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxfcaJun 26 09:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Looks Like STAR WARS Knights Of The OldJun 26 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Republic II - The Sith Lords Is Coming To LinuxJun 26 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/s051kuLAGk (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jun 26 09:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxfcgJun 26 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/looks-like-star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-ii-the-sith-lords-is-coming-to-linux.5563 )Jun 26 09:30
*TweetTuxMachines @Linux_topics_us favourited 'Looks Like STAR WARS Knights Of The Old...'Jun 26 09:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Geometry Wars 3: Dimensions Evolved On Linux,Jun 26 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Here’s What I Think https://t.co/18kkZ27rnQJun 26 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jun 26 09:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Geometry Wars 3: Dimensions Evolved On Linux, Here’s What I Think | GamingOnLinuxJun 26 09:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The best Ubuntu phone has the most convolutedJun 26 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 purchasing scheme http://t.co/AQmGK2TNqtJun 26 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | The best Ubuntu phone has the most convoluted purchasing scheme | PCWorldJun 26 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.com) artificial scarcity for hypeJun 26 09:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @skankthis retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The best Ubuntu phone has the most convoluted...'Jun 26 09:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Tizen is going to target a whole array ofJun 26 09:38
TweetTuxMachines                 devices including TV’s, smart phones, watches,Jun 26 09:38
TweetTuxMachines                 tablets..." http://t.co/OaF17FQ8b7Jun 26 09:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Jun 26 09:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/mxff0Jun 26 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | [Developer] An Introduction to Tizen 2.3 Application Architecture - Tizen ExpertsJun 26 09:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SteamOS "Brewmaster" Is Valve's New Debian 8.1Jun 26 09:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Based Version http://t.co/RRuhESttQkJun 26 09:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 26 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | SteamOS "Brewmaster" Is Valve's New Debian 8.1 Based Version - PhoronixJun 26 09:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Is Still Using LXDE AsJun 26 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 LXQt Is in Development - Screenshot TourJun 26 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ou3j4aIdtR (linux.softpedia.com)Jun 26 10:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Lubuntu 15.10 Alpha 1 Is Still Using LXDE As LXQt Is in Development - Screenshot Tour - SoftpediaJun 26 10:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu 15.04 Running on Microsoft'sJun 26 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Surface Pro 3 Tablet http://t.co/qfVILZLeY0Jun 26 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu 15.04 Running on Microsoft's Surface Pro 3 Tablet - SoftpediaJun 26 10:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mashups - the Hidden Potential of Android WearJun 26 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1MuyIG4pZCJun 26 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (forums.androidcentral.com)Jun 26 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.androidcentral.com | Mashups - the Hidden Potential of Android Wear - Android Forums at AndroidCentral.comJun 26 10:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen Leftovers http://t.co/C6Fp5TQxffJun 26 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jun 26 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 26 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Spire Payments’ new suite of Linux-based POSJun 26 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 terminals (the SP range) continues to gainJun 26 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 global acceptance" http://t.co/ZFNwVvfYpYJun 26 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.finextra.com)Jun 26 11:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.finextra.com | Finextra: Finextra PR: Spire Payments’ Linux POS range certified to support Compass Plus TranzWare systemJun 26 11:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat bares RHEV roadmap, fate of theJun 26 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 hypervisor  http://t.co/OIInXffzslJun 26 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com)Jun 26 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com | Red Hat bares RHEV roadmap, fate of the hypervisorJun 26 11:20
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alexanderhanff/status/614375648824557568Jun 26 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexanderhanff: @schestowitz I don't believe they have gone far enough - whereas removing the code from Chrome might not be an option (more) #privacyJun 26 11:34
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alexanderhanff/status/614375927926140928Jun 26 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexanderhanff: @schestowitz users should be able to see the extension in the list & be able to disable it completely in #Chrome too (more) #privacyJun 26 11:34
r_schestowitzI wonder (but have not checked) how they landed the blob in the first place and whether they maintain this functionalityJun 26 11:34
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alexanderhanff/status/614376183044657152  https://twitter.com/alexanderhanff/status/614376670691225600Jun 26 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexanderhanff: @schestowitz disabling "Hello Google" in the settings page in #Chrome doesn't disable the extension & it still has some permissions #privacyJun 26 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexanderhanff: @schestowitz I guess it is time to file complaints with the #FTC & EU regulators. cc @JulieBrillFTC @ICOnews @CNIL @EU_Commission #privacyJun 26 11:35
r_schestowitzAren't other companies doing the same, e.g. Apple?Jun 26 11:35
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Nutzwert/status/614377649738285056Jun 26 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nutzwert: Yes. Is this ok, if the "supplier" is "trustable"? My machine is not totally under my control, anyway. https://t.co/uAB32Ld37eJun 26 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If a 'social' media button displays a number (fetched remotely from the 'supplier'), then it spies on every single visitor of the pageJun 26 11:36
r_schestowitzwhat OS/stack?Jun 26 11:36
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/614380615274774528Jun 26 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz people screwed by google code's removal of binary downloads will be impressed. #sarcasmJun 26 11:37
r_schestowitzpeople who choose chromium often have some expectation of consent being soughtJun 26 11:37
cubexyzblah, you could probably study lynx for 3 years and not understand it allJun 26 12:03
cubexyzyou could study firefox for 10Jun 26 12:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDEPIM report http://t.co/1pTOvAJ7XMJun 26 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.aegiap.eu) "We are in good way to have aJun 26 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 stable version for 15.08."Jun 26 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aegiap.eu | What's in my mind » KDEPIM reportJun 26 12:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.2 DRM Updates: Lots Of AMD Attention,Jun 26 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 No Nouveau Driver ChangesJun 26 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TPxbNnWgbD (www.phoronix.com)Jun 26 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 audio: http://t.co/DnppKqcihBJun 26 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.2 DRM Updates: Lots Of AMD Attention, No Nouveau Driver Changes - PhoronixJun 26 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jun 26 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Audio Code For Linux 4.2 Has Skylake Attention & Other Improvements - PhoronixJun 26 12:04
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/614382579601534976Jun 26 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz they have already selected t place of burial at the Great Google Graveyard. It will go between Google Video and Google NotebookJun 26 12:04
r_schestowitzThat's Chrome users, not ChromiumJun 26 12:04
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Nutzwert/status/614383706942406656Jun 26 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nutzwert: @schestowitz Debian GNU Linux. But Debian works well.Jun 26 12:05
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Nutzwert/status/614384357080436736Jun 26 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nutzwert: @schestowitz What do you think about elgg to build up your own social network?Jun 26 12:05
r_schestowitzDepends on how one defines social network. I use disapora primarily, foss and decentralisedJun 26 12:05
r_schestowitzdiasporaJun 26 12:05
r_schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6269838  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6269854Jun 26 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #amazon #drm hell entices people http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/amazon-appstore-offers-paid-android-apps-worth-over-50-for-free-707884Jun 26 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> gadgets.ndtv.com | Amazon Appstore Offers Paid Android Apps Worth Over $50 for Free | NDTV Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/mxggy ]Jun 26 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now They’ve Gone And Stuck Android Onto A Graphing Calculator http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/25/now-theyve-gone-and-stuck-android-onto-a-graphing-calculator/ #android #linuxJun 26 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | Now They’ve Gone And Stuck Android Onto A Graphing Calculator | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/mxggz ]Jun 26 12:11
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r_schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6270047 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6270053  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6270060Jun 26 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Red Hat Inc (RHT) Positioned Better Than Ever In IT World – Cantor Fitzgerald http://www.bidnessetc.com/46282-red-hat-inc-rht-positioned-better-than-ever-in-it-world-cantor-fitzgerald/ upgraded again. #redhat #gnu #linuxJun 26 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bidnessetc.com | Red Hat Inc (RHT) Positioned Better Than Ever In IT World – Cantor Fitzgerald [ http://ur1.ca/mxght ]Jun 26 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #RedHat CEO: Open Source is Eating Software http://www.cmswire.com/information-management/red-hat-ceo-open-source-is-eating-software/ he means #freeswJun 26 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cmswire.com | Red Hat CEO: Open Source is Eating SoftwareJun 26 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #RedHat brings #PaaS #Linux #Docker Containers with #OpenShift Enterprise 3 http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2414963/red-hay-brings-paas-linux-docker-containers-with-openshift-enterprise-3Jun 26 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theinquirer.net | Red Hat brings PaaS Linux Docker Containers with OpenShift Enterprise 3- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/mxghx ]Jun 26 12:15
r_schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6270065   https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6270072   https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6270082Jun 26 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ​#Redis Labs secures multi-million injection to help compete with #MongoDB and #Cassandra http://www.zdnet.com/article/redis-labs-secures-multi-million-injection-to-help-compete-with-mongodb-and-cassandra/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 a lot of #openwashing thereJun 26 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | ​Redis Labs secures multi-million injection to help compete with MongoDB and Cassandra | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/mxgic ]Jun 26 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Will #RedHat Acquire #Docker soon? http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/will-red-hat-acquire-docker.html consider where the founder came from...Jun 26 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eweek.com | Will Red Hat Acquire Docker? [ http://ur1.ca/mxgie ]Jun 26 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #redhat has been having so-called 'summits' every year for a long time, but this year yields a HUGE amount of press coverageJun 26 12:16
r_schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6270083Jun 26 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #redhat is upgraded again http://www.dakotafinancialnews.com/oppenheimer-increases-red-hat-price-target-to-88-00-rht/221912/ future of #gnu #linux looks promisingJun 26 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dakotafinancialnews.com | Oppenheimer Increases Red Hat Price Target to $88.00 (RHT) [ http://ur1.ca/mxgiq ]Jun 26 12:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 26/6/2015: Ardour 4.1, GNOME 3.17.3Jun 26 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Released http://t.co/wAOHQ8E32SJun 26 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jun 26 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/FfdhZcHF6eJun 26 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)