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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/martiniturbide/status/678552765912584192 | Dec 20 13:25 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@martiniturbide: #IATelethon https://t.co/zQ4EeTqike | Dec 20 13:25 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: DONATE TO THE INTERNET ARCHIVE https://t.co/Kb7BqzhorX one of the most valuable sites on the Web. Combats Internet rot/censorship. | Dec 20 13:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6921374 | Dec 20 21:48 |
| schestowitz | "Try using the other hand…" | Dec 20 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Slow typing | Dec 20 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the pain in the shoulder isn't too much to cope with, plan today is to write about #surveillance (induces self-censoring) and #censorship | Dec 20 21:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6921518 | Dec 20 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Has nobody (yet) made a Downfall movie/subtitles for #epo and #battistelli scandals? Someone who's good at video editing should. | Dec 20 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | "Having had some experience with video editing I suppose I might as well find an afternoon to work on this. | Dec 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | I decided to do it myself and finished https://t.co/WgRRhOaHw2 | Dec 20 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | EPO Management Discovers Media is Against It - YouTube | Dec 20 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 20 23:20 |
| schestowitz | My real name appears in the headers, so MI5 and friends know we're in contact... | Dec 20 23:20 |
| schestowitz | That's not too bad, as long as the content remains private. But there is always a risk of spoofing. I considered sending you a table of random check numbers for authentifying messages, but that's a non-standard solution. | Dec 20 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Beginning with this message, I'll be adding a digital signature to my encrypted communications, and configured this as a default. It's worth the hassle IMO. | Dec 20 23:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 20 23:20 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/paulhindes/status/678762472732495872 | Dec 21 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@paulhindes: @schestowitz I can relate. | Dec 21 18:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | >> Your webpages | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | >> ============= | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | >> | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | >> Please, again be reminded, please add on your pages in all links | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > "contact" to your GPG key page. It is important. Currently, your page | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > with the key is VERY DIFFICULT to find. | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > I have made the PGP page visible in my twitter profile. Anywhere else? | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > Where would people typically look for it? | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > == 1. make your PGP key page more apparent == | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > The EPO-people I know, do *not* use Twitter. | Dec 21 18:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > EPO staff is extremely reluctant (in any sense) to use new technologies. I am very sorry to say this, but it is simply the truth. | Dec 21 18:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I will make some amendments today. | Dec 21 18:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > So what do I mean exactly ? | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > On your (by the way, tooooooo many) many page and sites, you have at the bottom sections like "about me", "contact me", "about the author".... | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/about-the-site/ | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/author/schestowitz/ uuuuh naughty, this link links to a wrong page! | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm not sure I can reproduce. Where is there a wrong/broken link? I checked, but couldn't find an obvious issue, other than the stuff being well out of date (as should be expected from large sites that are maintained by few people). | Dec 21 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | About the Site | Techrights | Dec 21 18:55 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/iqzoq ] | Dec 21 18:55 | |
| r_schestowitz | > Post Author | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Roy is a Software Engineer, interdisciplinary researcher, and an advocate of fair competition. He holds a doctoral degree in Medical Biophysics. | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Contact us | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Homepage Identica Twitter Reddit | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Digg Diaspora YouTube LinkedIn | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > My advise: | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > ==> mention and link to your PGP key page WHEREVER you can. | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > ==> have a look to all your pages where you say "about me", "contact me", and so on, and there PLEASE add a link to your PGP key page (which is okay). | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | I shall add it to the above in the templates. | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > == 2. regarding Jacques Michel, and related activities == | Dec 21 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > I think, you should not concentrate to hammer on these (external-to-EPO) activities. They are really only related to staff who is no longer affiliated to the EPO, so these (EPO-external) activities can be tolerated in my view. | Dec 21 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | These matters still relate, to some degree, to the status of the current management. It's another new scandal in the big and growing pile. | Dec 21 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > == 3. concentrate to hammer on Battistelli and his clique == | Dec 21 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | > They must be fired as soon as possible. They damaged everything. EPO was working well before Battistelli came in. Now the staff is fully in anger about him. Indeed it seems he is Blatter, he acts and behaves like Blatter. | Dec 21 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | I focus on their figureheads, yes, see last night's articles. And some of this morning's. | Dec 21 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich | Dec 21 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Holodomor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 21 22:38 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ocsoy ] | Dec 21 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | "A number of other unusual claims were made as well, including that Stalin was married to a sister of Kaganovich (supposedly named "Rosa")" | Dec 21 22:40 |
| schestowitz | "Lazar Kaganovich's son Mikhail (named after Lazar's late brother) married Svetlana Dzhugashvili, daughter of Joseph Stalin on 3 July 1951" | Dec 21 22:40 |
| schestowitz | troll libel du jour: | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | You attack snit for spending time posting to newsgroups and make a false | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | assumption that he is unable to support his family because of the time | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | he spends posting. | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | So do you make the same claims against this Linux advocate, Roy | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Schestowitz? | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Have you taken a close look at his site? He's also active on Twitter and | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | many other social media sites. And just looking at his website, shows it | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | to be highly complex with wordy articles, links and so forth all of | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | which get updated all day long. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/?stories | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | So where does he have the time to hold a legitimate job and support his | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | family/wife and himself? | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Answer: His wife works and he is leeching off her income so he can troll | Dec 21 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom | Dec 21 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | 24 hours per day. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Yet you say nothing of Roy Schestowitz. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/-JvK4ojRVcM/Kte4msVjBgAJ | Dec 21 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Dec 21 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Because Roy never pointed out where Peter was wrong, as he so often is. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Peter attacks me to avoid speaking of Linux... he fears doing so. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | same troll says "spamming" | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Well, for tasks which are handled better by scripts scripting is better - | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | but that is not true for most tasks. For example, most people cannot script | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | their Usenet posts... to do so and just have automated content is almost | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | surely just trolling and pushing nonsense to obfuscate conversations (we see | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | that with Sandman's posts - they are insane trolling... and we used to see | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | that with Roy's spamming). Some have even accused me of doing so when I just | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | copy and paste the same response to the idiotic trolling of others (in that | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | case, though, the bigger issue is people posting the same idiotic trolling, | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | NOT the responses to it). | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:52 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/GrmVGkmNbjU[1-25] | Dec 21 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ocspd ] | Dec 21 22:52 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | For something which Junge Welt or its big sister Neues Deutschland could | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | have printed, have a look at the internal EPO communiqué issued after | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | the AC meeting. There were over the week-end a few comments on IPkat | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | referring to that masterpiece. | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | 3) You mention a whois, but it isn't clear to me which domain name you | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | were looking up, or who is Christopher Proud. | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Regards, | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | ps: BTW, Happy birthday. | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | You suggested meeting in Town next week. Are you still up for it? (to journo) | Dec 21 23:19 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Brimelow | Dec 21 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Alison Brimelow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 21 23:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/20090614084431/http://www.epo.org/about-us/press/backgrounders/brimelow-cv.html | Dec 21 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Alison Brimelow | Dec 21 23:22 | |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:19:56 2010 | Dec 22 00:39 | |
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| r_schestowitz | > Hello Roy, | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > Yes, I am still up for it. The best days for me are the 29th and 30th | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > December. Late morning, early afternoon work for me. How does that work | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > for you. | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | I'll be in touch near that time | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | 2 | Dec 22 15:40 |
| r_schestowitz | The official Communiqué on the last meeting of the AC is now online: | Dec 22 15:40 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.epo.org/about-us/organisation/communiques.html#a22 | Dec 22 15:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.epo.org | EPO - Communiqués [ http://ur1.ca/octmz ] | Dec 22 15:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/679327078379032577 | Dec 22 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz Time for your Lightning Talk about EPO (patent, HR, political, IT...) issues ? https://t.co/WVwTzZ4Cv7 | Dec 22 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@chaosupdates: There will be Lightning Talks at #32C3 on three days: Registration is now open https://t.co/rrbcvNtv51 | Dec 22 15:48 | |
| r_schestowitz | I very rarely attend such conferences, and CCC is not the right audience, either (some FFII folks talk there this year) | Dec 22 15:48 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6925043 | Dec 22 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #EPO Level of Trust Reaches All-Time Low: Workers Distrust the Available Phones in Their Offices, Use Mobiles Instead http://techrights.org/2015/12/22/trust-lost-now-distrust-at-epo/ | Dec 22 16:05 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | EPO Level of Trust Reaches All-Time Low: Workers Distrust the Available Phones in Their Offices, Use Mobiles Instead | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/octp3 ] | Dec 22 16:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/679331932350586881 | Dec 22 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz not.as clear | Dec 22 16:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | true | Dec 22 16:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Glyn moody just got retweeted by Snowden | Dec 22 16:58 |
| r_schestowitz | I told him, "congrats on you first citation by @snowden - I follow him closely" | Dec 22 16:58 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/679345504577306626 | Dec 22 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz @Snowden thanks; interesting watching the RTs mount... | Dec 22 17:00 | |
| r_schestowitz | Getting those few RTs that bring 10,000s or 100,000s of impressions (stadium-sized, not preaching to the choir)=success | Dec 22 17:02 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/679346270285266944 | Dec 22 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz @Snowden true | Dec 22 17:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | Florian M is how I get through to many patent lawyers in Europe but also abroad | Dec 22 17:03 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/679347285088673792 | Dec 22 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz @Snowden makes sense | Dec 22 17:08 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/679354124060639232 | Dec 22 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz @glynmoody social experiments..censorship and all that jazz | Dec 22 17:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/freedomgirl2011/status/679354748416475136 | Dec 22 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@freedomgirl2011: @schestowitz I am banned from FB ,they want mobile and official ID now.I exposed a Sandy Hook child alive by US expert today and was banned. | Dec 22 17:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/exmaglux/status/679354909213532160 | Dec 22 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@exmaglux: @schestowitz @EnVogueRogue Tis the cunning "placement of the "moments" tag .. I dislike it as well :) | Dec 22 17:37 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/679364435279028224 | Dec 22 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Looks like a scary security risk @schestowitz Windows 10: What's coming in 2016 ? https://t.co/d6XQycnrOk | Dec 22 18:30 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theregister.co.uk | Windows 10: What's coming in 2016? • The Register | Dec 22 18:30 | |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/brunei-cancels-christmas-sultan-warns-those-celebrating-could-face-up-to-five-years-in-jail-a6782561.html | Dec 22 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Brunei cancels Christmas: Sultan warns those celebrating could face up to five years in jail | Asia | News | The Independent | Dec 22 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > A better link about the same. | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | See http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/millionaire-businessman-cleared-raping-teenager-7018414 | Dec 22 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mirror.co.uk | Millionaire businessman cleared of raping teenager after he told court he may have accidentally penetrated her - Mirror Online | Dec 22 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.out-law.com/topics/dispute-resolution-and-litigation/privilege/legal-professional-privilege-some-practical-considerations/ | Dec 22 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.out-law.com | Legal professional privilege: some practical considerations | Dec 22 21:13 | |
| schestowitz | Hmm... so if I was to release that, SUEPO would lose their privilege to withhold info from EPO in case of a lawsuit... | Dec 22 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Stupid legal terms | Dec 22 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Just sent this out | Dec 22 21:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Opinion needed... | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Given the possession of the legal opinion regarding the pension scheme amendment which was already voted on anyway, and given professional/legal profession privilege (which I suppose means that the EPO cannot under any circumstance sniff out the document), is there any point releasing, as text, the 20-page document noting that the EPO's amendments are weird and futile? Maybe conclusions part only? I fear that: | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | 1. it would eliminate the privilege | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | 2. distract from bigger scandals | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | 3. won't change a think after the AC sessions anyway | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | But maybe my instincts here are incorrect. The only upside might be that I'll have something to link to down the line whenever Team Battistelli raves about its "pension" BS... | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WeiDeLi14/status/679403001782525954 | Dec 22 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WeiDeLi14: @WeiDeLi14 Indeed, it will only take the next big social media wave to replace it... #Starless #Twitter: https://t.co/uaFwW2vZtV | Dec 22 21:22 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Twitter is trying to become another #facebook (in many aspects) https://t.co/DaTfV793ll | Dec 22 21:22 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Hey just a quick input: | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | you swapped the links for Italy and Spain in your article "Epo Intranet | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | fails to present any..." | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Punto informatico is the italian link, El Confidencial the spanish one. | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Here the correct list: | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | in Italy: http://punto-informa co.it/4286621/PI/News/epo-denunce-breve | Dec 22 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Couldn't resolve host 'punto-informa' ( status 0 @ http://punto-informa ) | Dec 22 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | are.aspx (just translated for us) | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | · in Spain : | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.elconfidencial.com/economia/2015-11-26/suicidios-espionaje-nepotismo-la-oficina-europea-de-patentes-es-un-polvorin_1107057/ | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | (by Carlos Sánchez, English translation published here yesterday) | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.elconfidencial.com | Europa: Suicidios, espionaje, nepotismo… La Oficina Europea de Patentes es un polvorín. Noticias de Economía | Dec 22 21:54 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6923467 | Dec 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | "Ugh. Yeah. I forgot about the whol UI thing and other proprietary bits thang." | Dec 23 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The Finish company" http://news.softpedia.com/news/jolla-and-the-linux-based-sailfish-os-survive-financial-problems-497914.shtml an irony in this typo because #jolla was almost finished | Dec 23 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | Jolla and the Linux-Based Sailfish OS Survive Financial Problems [ http://ur1.ca/oct6j ] | Dec 23 01:55 | |
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| schestowitz | > "The country has a number of other noticeably smaller islands which | Dec 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > have population densities orders of magnitude lower." | Dec 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > http://seekingalpha.com/article/3771456-indonesia-increasing-demand-could-have-worldwide-implications | Dec 23 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-seekingalpha.com | Indonesia - Increasing Demand Could Have Worldwide Implications | Seeking Alpha | Dec 23 10:00 | |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz | > getting forced out of existence by burning and squatters | Dec 23 10:00 |
| schestowitz | Those who make a lot of money probably already have escape plans, e.g. to Singapore. | Dec 23 10:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gchampeau/status/679607921391611904 | Dec 23 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gchampeau: @schestowitz Cisco said it would make a code review. An internal one. No independant review, of course. @All4Privacy | Dec 23 10:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/679608292822351872 | Dec 23 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @schestowitz @SE4NN Apple will have to wait a while, to be replaced by a new 'cool' thing and then reinvent themselves again. | Dec 23 10:23 | |
| schestowitz | >>> >> https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/12/17/so-called-oversight-in-omnicisa/ | Dec 23 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/12/17/so-called-oversight-in-omnicisa/ ) | Dec 23 10:28 | |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> her RSS feed looks broken | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | >> > Someone ought to tell her | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | > No contact information, not even on her site. | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | Twitter is the best bet. I'll tell her | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | @emptywheel your RSS feed is broken, someone asked me to tell you | Dec 23 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/679741249046228992 | Dec 23 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz FOOTNOTE: https://t.co/DqsEXA4sCG | Dec 23 19:21 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz FOOTNOTE: https://t.co/DqsEXA4sCG | Dec 23 19:21 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/679771808351031297 | Dec 23 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: What's in the 'surveillance' act Obama signed ? @schestowitz https://t.co/hIekDskxKe | Dec 23 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cnbc.com | The controversial 'surveillance' act Obama just signed | Dec 23 21:56 | |
| schestowitz | This show is hilarious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankun | Dec 23 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Pankun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 23 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.buzzfeed.com/peggy/top-20-adorable-screenshots-of-pan-kun-and-james#.dlXLYb5ER | Dec 23 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.buzzfeed.com | Top 20 Adorable Screenshots Of Pan-Kun And James | Dec 23 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36036/ | Dec 23 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: I'm so tired of this: Training Girls Away From Technical Careers | Dec 23 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | I want to read articles related to Linux, open source, and technology. Not political issues. I'm not sexist and I have no problems with women working in technology related fields (or any fields). What exactly changed? Lately it feels like every technology site I visit is pushing this agenda. I think I might go back to reading print media, because this is starting to wear me out. All I read was the title and blurb of the article and it | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | puts me in a sour mood. I'm so over this **it. | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, yeah, I get it. My lack of interest must be one of the big reasons for this problem of lack of women in IT! Sorry for not doing enough. Give me a ****ing break already. | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Yes, Richard, your egotistical sexism is indeed one of the reasons for this problem. | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | There are two sexes of humans in this world, and each can work. Get used to it. | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | "I'm with RichardLinx on this one. This kind of attitude looking for women everywhere creates sexism and this has no place in technology. We want capable persons doing good job, with balls or nips, we don't care. No one should hold a technological job because of balls or nips. This kind of stupidity has become so normal that even parliaments have reserved seats for women here in France. I don't come to LXer for this either." | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | There was a discussion some time back on The Register related to this issue. IIRC it was primarily about harrasment in the workplace, mainly aimed at women but as often happens, the commentary widens outer into a general issue. I think the general conclusion of a lot commentators was that this was a much more overt and obvious problem in the US. One the one side, some respondents say that they haven't seen overt sexism in the workplace | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | and it must be fairly isolated in this day and age. On the other hand, other respondents claim that it is rife throughout the industry and those claiming that they haven't seen it must be just blind or lacking awareness. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Some of my closest work friends are women and, where I worked with them in the UK, I can confidently say there was no sexism. At all. However, one of my female friends did relate some indicative stories from her past where she experienced this kind of thing, so it certainly does exist. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Then we hear about conferences in the US where female speakers are rudely interrupted by snickering "teenagers", having to suffer personal smears in public and privately via forums and e-mail. Sexism in Europe almost certainly does happen but it seems an awful lot rarer than over the pond, but even in Europe I expect that cultural differences play a part in the frequency of it. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | So it seems that some women suffer this kind of thing disproportionately in certain environments. I think it is a good sign that we are outraged when we hear about this kind of thing online whereas at one time it was pretty much par for the course in many places. I take heart from that. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | I know that this subject is only tangentially related to the story but such attitudes are entrenched in whole generations. In many places we have made good progress and long may progress continue. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | I have to say that I don't agree with RichardLinx above. If we stop talking about this issue, it will never be fixed. I do not agree with "positive discrimination" in any area. Discrimination is discrimination wherever you find it. But we must keep airing this issue from time to time to keep it alive. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Slavery wasn't abolished because it was talked about a bit then everyone forgot about it. We still speak about it because we never want it to return. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | "Slavery has only been abolished in a percentage of the world. We still need to be talking about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_slavery " | Dec 23 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Contemporary slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 23 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Inflexible brains with outdated, simple-minded, counter-productive attitudes are what create sexism and a whole lot of other problems in technology and everywhere else. | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Think about it. | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | @albinard : Think about that : | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Someone jumps in your office and shouts : I'm a female and hence this job is mine ! | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | No, once you put forward your kind for some advantage, you're creating sexism and discrimination. | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | As far as is visible, females want reserved places as politicians, lawyers or technologists, but they never fight to work in sewrage, constructing roads and buildings, or to go to war in the front line. Because they don't have physical strength ? OK, then they don't have superior intellectual capabilities to claim that they *must* occupy the same number of jobs in the other fields. They can, but without any pre-determined posts. Let the | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | best ones win. | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | did you even read the article? | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | it is not claiming that women should get more techjobs regardless of their capacity, but rather that women are better at tech then men, yet are actively discouraged from pursuing tech careers. | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | it is also not about women demanding affirmative action as you seem to suggest, nor is it looking for women everywhere, but rather gives us examples of capable women that deserve to work in IT because they excel at working with technology. | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | it is about the best ones being denied an opportunity to prove themselves. | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | how can the best ones win, when they are not allowed to enter the race? | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | But the fact of coining "linux women technology" is itself a sexist request in my view, an affirmative action as you say. | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | Quoting the OP : "I want to read articles related to Linux, open source, and technology. Not political issues." | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | Translation: | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | "I'm fine. I haven't had to deal with this; and I don't want to. It's too much trouble -- and it doesn't affect me personally, anyway. I'm comfortable with the way things are, and I resent anyone else trying to make me recognize a problem that I otherwise don't even notice and doesn't bother me in my own personal circumstances." | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | "the article spells it out very clearly: people outside of the IT industry (and also people in the industry) are telling women that they are not fit for the job. can't really get more preventative than that." | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | There's a lot of testosterone being flung around here at the moment. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | The issue is simple. *Some* women/girls are being demonstrably discouraged from entering IT. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | It shouldn't happen. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | That's basically it folks. Nothing more to see. Please move along. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | End of story. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | To be fair, it isn't just women/girls being discouraged from becoming interested in tech related fields. Depending on a given neighborhood/environment, a parent/guardian/caregiver may see such things as a waste of time. This is an issue that affects quite a few people, even today. | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | With that said, it's not about, "It doesn't affect me, so I don't want to deal with it." Too many things have become politicized to the point where a given field that was once fun is no longer such. Sometimes it gets to the level where friendships end and family members no longer speak to one another. It sort of reminds me of one of the Mighty Ducks movies where the kid in the middle of the controversy regarding which team he gets to play | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | on put it best. He simply said, "I just want to play hockey." | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Those who do software simply want to code. Others simply want to build systems, test software, put together networks, and more. They don't care about anything else. They just want to work in tech. | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | In other words, I can understand where some of the irritation is coming from. | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | there aren't many women who think they can do IT | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | So some sites show it's possible | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | to encourage them | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | but some companies are femme-washing | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | for self-promotion | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | and therein lies the issue | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | IMHO | Dec 23 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | > Merry Christmas, | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > We've got great weather for today, it's -4 with no wind. Tomorrow not | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > so good at +2, but hopefully the snow will stay on the trees. Right now | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > they are dusted with snow just like in the postcards. Satu and I have | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > been getting ready for days so we have a lot to eat all prepared and | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > will have a lot of guests over. The ham is all baked and in an hour or | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > two we'll have rice porridge. We have mulled wine and nordic ginger | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > snaps. The full list is quite long. | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | > Merry Christmas, | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, we thought about sending you a sweater as a gift, but then then I thought, maybe you're not into all that gifting (forced consumerism). A few years back someone anonymous from Finland sent me a xmas gift because of my Linux advocacy. | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/679965963400253441 | Dec 24 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Metztli_IT: Equally 'suggestive'(of #NSA) is Mark #Shuttleworth's statement, "we have root". #Ubuntu https://t.co/Mk2ddHc2fp | Dec 24 10:05 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: To summarise #redhat relationship with NSA: 1) money flow; 2) code patches; 3) procurement (big $); 4) SELinux; 5) compilation (RHEL) | Dec 24 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/679968941037469697 | Dec 24 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Zeipt: В рфии все так же начиналось... https://t.co/fgO5rlYJmy | Dec 24 10:17 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Internet Freedom Is Actively Dissolving in America https://t.co/7q6d7NIu9z as do many other things. Because "terrorism". | Dec 24 10:17 | |
| schestowitz | > ot: | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/scientists-find-1500-year-old-viking-settlement-beneath-new-airport-site/ | Dec 24 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Scientists find 1500-year-old Viking settlement beneath new airport site | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ocwrs ] | Dec 24 10:19 | |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > == | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/security/hyatt-hotels-says-payment-processing-systems-hit-by-malware-3632614/ | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 24 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerworlduk.com | Hyatt Hotels says payment-processing systems hit by malware | Security | Computerworld UK [ http://ur1.ca/ocwru ] | Dec 24 10:19 | |
| schestowitz | > == | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.fastcompany.com/3054970/elasticity/facebook-free-basics-curtailed-in-india-over-net-neutrality-dispute | Dec 24 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fastcompany.com | Facebook "Free Basics" Curtailed in India Over Net Neutrality Dispute [ http://ur1.ca/ocwrw ] | Dec 24 10:19 | |
| schestowitz | > Due to the holiday, I don't expect to be able to find more than a | Dec 24 10:20 |
| schestowitz | > handful of links through Saturday. | Dec 24 10:20 |
| schestowitz | Same here... | Dec 24 10:20 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6927749 | Dec 24 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: DoJ forced #Google to turn over @ioerror email, then gagged Google https://boingboing.net/2015/12/23/doj-forced-google-to-turn-over.html because US 'loves' freedom, like MS loves Linux | Dec 24 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> boingboing.net | DoJ forced Google to turn over Jacob Appelbaum's email, then gagged Google / Boing Boing | Dec 24 11:31 | |
| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6927749" | Dec 24 11:31 |
| schestowitz | "Jacob was using Gmail?! Seriously?!?!! | Dec 24 11:32 |
| schestowitz | He said he had done it to entrap Google | Dec 24 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/680439005343793152 | Dec 25 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jurasick: @schestowitz as much as I admire the symbolism, I would hate to be a professional musician right about now. Diminishing livelihood options. | Dec 25 20:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/VigilantRobot/status/680440179128139776 | Dec 25 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VigilantRobot: @jurasick @schestowitz I've a friend who worked in the industry and said artists often leak their own music cuz they're screwed by the label | Dec 25 20:25 | |
| schestowitz | True | Dec 25 20:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/680445883708784640 | Dec 25 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jurasick: @VigilantRobot @schestowitz that's probably true. But I haven't heard of a labels alternative to make musicians happy. And stop piracy. | Dec 25 20:26 | |
| schestowitz | Copying music isn't piracy, it's copyright infringement, based on laws that need amending | Dec 25 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | [OT] | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Our 1-year membership at Thistle/Portland is coming to end in one month. We joined it after Midland had closed the gym. We can renew our membership at Thistle/Portland for 200 pounds per year per person. This is the standard fare my wife and I get there, including towels. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Earlier this year we tried The Spa for several days and we liked it. We realise, however, that the cost for membership would double for us. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Earlier this year you made various offers for returning members and for couples, including free month, complimentary treatments etc. We could not take advantage of those because we already had an ongoing one-year membership at Thistle/Portland. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | We received several calls from Craig (or maybe another person on another occasion) and said we'd be ready to consider joining in January. We are still not sure whether or not to join. It'll all down to price. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | We would like to negotiate the price that we get (irrespective of treatment, free month etc.) in order to make an informed decision some time in the next couple of weeks. If negotiation of price necessitates meeting, that would be fine. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Previously, under Amanda, Rianne and I paid 27 pounds each (corporate rate). This went on for over a year until closure. We realise that 27/pound is not a price we can get anymore (not with towels and other benefits), but we're hoping to be able to get a fare at somewhere around 40 pounds to lure us away from Thistle/Portland and back to where I'd gone since 2001. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Please get in touch by phone or E-mail at your earliest convenience. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Icheyne/status/680500401985183748 | Dec 25 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Icheyne: @schestowitz Do you crosspost your twitter/identica/diaspora stream to RSS? If not, please could you? | Dec 25 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | use this: techrights.org/category/news-roundup/feed/ | Dec 25 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Icheyne/status/680507087059861504 | Dec 25 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Icheyne: @schestowitz Thanks! 😄 | Dec 25 22:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/680526029362999296 | Dec 26 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Foolishly enough, in the midst of tinkering, I ran fuzz tests on my desktop/production system, made a huge mess of files, sockets, dirs | Dec 26 00:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/680819898403164160 | Dec 26 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz sadly and amazingly, yes. He supported legalization of immigrants, for one example, a last voice of at least some reason | Dec 26 19:03 | |
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| schestowitz | Dear Mr Schestowitz, | Dec 26 23:43 |
| schestowitz | I have been following you on Twitter for a while in recent times. There I go by another name, for security reasons that might be purely delusional. | Dec 26 23:43 |
| schestowitz | As you might easily see from the chaotically edited profile I have here in LinkedIn, I am an EPO veteran, so to say. The emphasis I try discretely to give to some of my professional activities, including the free-lance and the staff representation, might give you an inkling about the terms in which my relation with this peculiar organization is. | Dec 26 23:43 |
| schestowitz | I also am aware that I might be very likely spied upon (actually I had compelling evidence of that in the recent past) and that contacts with "negative" elements, such as you or the likes of Mr Florian Müller, for that matter, might even cast a more negative light on me and probably expose me even more to practices that are no short of criminal. | Dec 26 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/martiniturbide/status/678552765912584192 | Dec 20 13:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@martiniturbide: #IATelethon https://t.co/zQ4EeTqike | Dec 20 13:25 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: DONATE TO THE INTERNET ARCHIVE https://t.co/Kb7BqzhorX one of the most valuable sites on the Web. Combats Internet rot/censorship. | Dec 20 13:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6921374 | Dec 20 21:48 |
| schestowitz | "Try using the other hand…" | Dec 20 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Slow typing | Dec 20 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If the pain in the shoulder isn't too much to cope with, plan today is to write about #surveillance (induces self-censoring) and #censorship | Dec 20 21:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6921518 | Dec 20 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Has nobody (yet) made a Downfall movie/subtitles for #epo and #battistelli scandals? Someone who's good at video editing should. | Dec 20 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | "Having had some experience with video editing I suppose I might as well find an afternoon to work on this. | Dec 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | I decided to do it myself and finished https://t.co/WgRRhOaHw2 | Dec 20 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | EPO Management Discovers Media is Against It - YouTube | Dec 20 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 20 23:20 |
| schestowitz | My real name appears in the headers, so MI5 and friends know we're in contact... | Dec 20 23:20 |
| schestowitz | That's not too bad, as long as the content remains private. But there is always a risk of spoofing. I considered sending you a table of random check numbers for authentifying messages, but that's a non-standard solution. | Dec 20 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Beginning with this message, I'll be adding a digital signature to my encrypted communications, and configured this as a default. It's worth the hassle IMO. | Dec 20 23:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 20 23:20 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/paulhindes/status/678762472732495872 | Dec 21 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@paulhindes: @schestowitz I can relate. | Dec 21 18:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | >> Your webpages | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | >> ============= | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | >> | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | >> Please, again be reminded, please add on your pages in all links | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > "contact" to your GPG key page. It is important. Currently, your page | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > with the key is VERY DIFFICULT to find. | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > I have made the PGP page visible in my twitter profile. Anywhere else? | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > Where would people typically look for it? | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > == 1. make your PGP key page more apparent == | Dec 21 18:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > The EPO-people I know, do *not* use Twitter. | Dec 21 18:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > EPO staff is extremely reluctant (in any sense) to use new technologies. I am very sorry to say this, but it is simply the truth. | Dec 21 18:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I will make some amendments today. | Dec 21 18:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > So what do I mean exactly ? | Dec 21 18:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > On your (by the way, tooooooo many) many page and sites, you have at the bottom sections like "about me", "contact me", "about the author".... | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/about-the-site/ | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/author/schestowitz/ uuuuh naughty, this link links to a wrong page! | Dec 21 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm not sure I can reproduce. Where is there a wrong/broken link? I checked, but couldn't find an obvious issue, other than the stuff being well out of date (as should be expected from large sites that are maintained by few people). | Dec 21 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | About the Site | Techrights | Dec 21 18:55 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/iqzoq ] | Dec 21 18:55 | |
| r_schestowitz | > Post Author | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Roy is a Software Engineer, interdisciplinary researcher, and an advocate of fair competition. He holds a doctoral degree in Medical Biophysics. | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Contact us | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Homepage Identica Twitter Reddit | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Digg Diaspora YouTube LinkedIn | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > My advise: | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > ==> mention and link to your PGP key page WHEREVER you can. | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > ==> have a look to all your pages where you say "about me", "contact me", and so on, and there PLEASE add a link to your PGP key page (which is okay). | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | I shall add it to the above in the templates. | Dec 21 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > == 2. regarding Jacques Michel, and related activities == | Dec 21 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > I think, you should not concentrate to hammer on these (external-to-EPO) activities. They are really only related to staff who is no longer affiliated to the EPO, so these (EPO-external) activities can be tolerated in my view. | Dec 21 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | These matters still relate, to some degree, to the status of the current management. It's another new scandal in the big and growing pile. | Dec 21 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > == 3. concentrate to hammer on Battistelli and his clique == | Dec 21 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 21 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | > They must be fired as soon as possible. They damaged everything. EPO was working well before Battistelli came in. Now the staff is fully in anger about him. Indeed it seems he is Blatter, he acts and behaves like Blatter. | Dec 21 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | I focus on their figureheads, yes, see last night's articles. And some of this morning's. | Dec 21 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich | Dec 21 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Holodomor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 21 22:38 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ocsoy ] | Dec 21 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | "A number of other unusual claims were made as well, including that Stalin was married to a sister of Kaganovich (supposedly named "Rosa")" | Dec 21 22:40 |
| schestowitz | "Lazar Kaganovich's son Mikhail (named after Lazar's late brother) married Svetlana Dzhugashvili, daughter of Joseph Stalin on 3 July 1951" | Dec 21 22:40 |
| schestowitz | troll libel du jour: | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | You attack snit for spending time posting to newsgroups and make a false | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | assumption that he is unable to support his family because of the time | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | he spends posting. | Dec 21 22:48 |
| schestowitz | So do you make the same claims against this Linux advocate, Roy | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Schestowitz? | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Have you taken a close look at his site? He's also active on Twitter and | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | many other social media sites. And just looking at his website, shows it | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | to be highly complex with wordy articles, links and so forth all of | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | which get updated all day long. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/?stories | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | So where does he have the time to hold a legitimate job and support his | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | family/wife and himself? | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Answer: His wife works and he is leeching off her income so he can troll | Dec 21 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom | Dec 21 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | 24 hours per day. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Yet you say nothing of Roy Schestowitz. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/-JvK4ojRVcM/Kte4msVjBgAJ | Dec 21 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Dec 21 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Because Roy never pointed out where Peter was wrong, as he so often is. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Peter attacks me to avoid speaking of Linux... he fears doing so. | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:49 |
| schestowitz | same troll says "spamming" | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Well, for tasks which are handled better by scripts scripting is better - | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | but that is not true for most tasks. For example, most people cannot script | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | their Usenet posts... to do so and just have automated content is almost | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | surely just trolling and pushing nonsense to obfuscate conversations (we see | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | that with Sandman's posts - they are insane trolling... and we used to see | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | that with Roy's spamming). Some have even accused me of doing so when I just | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | copy and paste the same response to the idiotic trolling of others (in that | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | case, though, the bigger issue is people posting the same idiotic trolling, | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | NOT the responses to it). | Dec 21 22:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 22:52 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/GrmVGkmNbjU[1-25] | Dec 21 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ocspd ] | Dec 21 22:52 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | For something which Junge Welt or its big sister Neues Deutschland could | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | have printed, have a look at the internal EPO communiqué issued after | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | the AC meeting. There were over the week-end a few comments on IPkat | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | referring to that masterpiece. | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 23:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | 3) You mention a whois, but it isn't clear to me which domain name you | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | were looking up, or who is Christopher Proud. | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Regards, | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | ps: BTW, Happy birthday. | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 21 23:16 |
| schestowitz | You suggested meeting in Town next week. Are you still up for it? (to journo) | Dec 21 23:19 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Brimelow | Dec 21 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Alison Brimelow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 21 23:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/20090614084431/http://www.epo.org/about-us/press/backgrounders/brimelow-cv.html | Dec 21 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Alison Brimelow | Dec 21 23:22 | |
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| r_schestowitz | > Hello Roy, | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > Yes, I am still up for it. The best days for me are the 29th and 30th | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > December. Late morning, early afternoon work for me. How does that work | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > for you. | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | I'll be in touch near that time | Dec 22 13:31 |
| r_schestowitz | 2 | Dec 22 15:40 |
| r_schestowitz | The official Communiqué on the last meeting of the AC is now online: | Dec 22 15:40 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.epo.org/about-us/organisation/communiques.html#a22 | Dec 22 15:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.epo.org | EPO - Communiqués [ http://ur1.ca/octmz ] | Dec 22 15:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/679327078379032577 | Dec 22 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz Time for your Lightning Talk about EPO (patent, HR, political, IT...) issues ? https://t.co/WVwTzZ4Cv7 | Dec 22 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@chaosupdates: There will be Lightning Talks at #32C3 on three days: Registration is now open https://t.co/rrbcvNtv51 | Dec 22 15:48 | |
| r_schestowitz | I very rarely attend such conferences, and CCC is not the right audience, either (some FFII folks talk there this year) | Dec 22 15:48 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6925043 | Dec 22 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #EPO Level of Trust Reaches All-Time Low: Workers Distrust the Available Phones in Their Offices, Use Mobiles Instead http://techrights.org/2015/12/22/trust-lost-now-distrust-at-epo/ | Dec 22 16:05 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | EPO Level of Trust Reaches All-Time Low: Workers Distrust the Available Phones in Their Offices, Use Mobiles Instead | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/octp3 ] | Dec 22 16:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/679331932350586881 | Dec 22 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz not.as clear | Dec 22 16:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | true | Dec 22 16:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Glyn moody just got retweeted by Snowden | Dec 22 16:58 |
| r_schestowitz | I told him, "congrats on you first citation by @snowden - I follow him closely" | Dec 22 16:58 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/679345504577306626 | Dec 22 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz @Snowden thanks; interesting watching the RTs mount... | Dec 22 17:00 | |
| r_schestowitz | Getting those few RTs that bring 10,000s or 100,000s of impressions (stadium-sized, not preaching to the choir)=success | Dec 22 17:02 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/679346270285266944 | Dec 22 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz @Snowden true | Dec 22 17:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | Florian M is how I get through to many patent lawyers in Europe but also abroad | Dec 22 17:03 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/679347285088673792 | Dec 22 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz @Snowden makes sense | Dec 22 17:08 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/679354124060639232 | Dec 22 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz @glynmoody social experiments..censorship and all that jazz | Dec 22 17:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/freedomgirl2011/status/679354748416475136 | Dec 22 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@freedomgirl2011: @schestowitz I am banned from FB ,they want mobile and official ID now.I exposed a Sandy Hook child alive by US expert today and was banned. | Dec 22 17:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/exmaglux/status/679354909213532160 | Dec 22 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@exmaglux: @schestowitz @EnVogueRogue Tis the cunning "placement of the "moments" tag .. I dislike it as well :) | Dec 22 17:37 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/679364435279028224 | Dec 22 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Looks like a scary security risk @schestowitz Windows 10: What's coming in 2016 ? https://t.co/d6XQycnrOk | Dec 22 18:30 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theregister.co.uk | Windows 10: What's coming in 2016? • The Register | Dec 22 18:30 | |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/brunei-cancels-christmas-sultan-warns-those-celebrating-could-face-up-to-five-years-in-jail-a6782561.html | Dec 22 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Brunei cancels Christmas: Sultan warns those celebrating could face up to five years in jail | Asia | News | The Independent | Dec 22 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > A better link about the same. | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. | Dec 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | See http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/millionaire-businessman-cleared-raping-teenager-7018414 | Dec 22 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mirror.co.uk | Millionaire businessman cleared of raping teenager after he told court he may have accidentally penetrated her - Mirror Online | Dec 22 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.out-law.com/topics/dispute-resolution-and-litigation/privilege/legal-professional-privilege-some-practical-considerations/ | Dec 22 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.out-law.com | Legal professional privilege: some practical considerations | Dec 22 21:13 | |
| schestowitz | Hmm... so if I was to release that, SUEPO would lose their privilege to withhold info from EPO in case of a lawsuit... | Dec 22 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Stupid legal terms | Dec 22 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Just sent this out | Dec 22 21:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Opinion needed... | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Given the possession of the legal opinion regarding the pension scheme amendment which was already voted on anyway, and given professional/legal profession privilege (which I suppose means that the EPO cannot under any circumstance sniff out the document), is there any point releasing, as text, the 20-page document noting that the EPO's amendments are weird and futile? Maybe conclusions part only? I fear that: | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | 1. it would eliminate the privilege | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | 2. distract from bigger scandals | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | 3. won't change a think after the AC sessions anyway | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | But maybe my instincts here are incorrect. The only upside might be that I'll have something to link to down the line whenever Team Battistelli raves about its "pension" BS... | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 21:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WeiDeLi14/status/679403001782525954 | Dec 22 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WeiDeLi14: @WeiDeLi14 Indeed, it will only take the next big social media wave to replace it... #Starless #Twitter: https://t.co/uaFwW2vZtV | Dec 22 21:22 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Twitter is trying to become another #facebook (in many aspects) https://t.co/DaTfV793ll | Dec 22 21:22 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Hey just a quick input: | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | you swapped the links for Italy and Spain in your article "Epo Intranet | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | fails to present any..." | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Punto informatico is the italian link, El Confidencial the spanish one. | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Here the correct list: | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | in Italy: http://punto-informa co.it/4286621/PI/News/epo-denunce-breve | Dec 22 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Couldn't resolve host 'punto-informa' ( status 0 @ http://punto-informa ) | Dec 22 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | are.aspx (just translated for us) | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | · in Spain : | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.elconfidencial.com/economia/2015-11-26/suicidios-espionaje-nepotismo-la-oficina-europea-de-patentes-es-un-polvorin_1107057/ | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | (by Carlos Sánchez, English translation published here yesterday) | Dec 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 22 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.elconfidencial.com | Europa: Suicidios, espionaje, nepotismo… La Oficina Europea de Patentes es un polvorín. Noticias de Economía | Dec 22 21:54 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6923467 | Dec 23 01:55 |
| schestowitz | "Ugh. Yeah. I forgot about the whol UI thing and other proprietary bits thang." | Dec 23 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The Finish company" http://news.softpedia.com/news/jolla-and-the-linux-based-sailfish-os-survive-financial-problems-497914.shtml an irony in this typo because #jolla was almost finished | Dec 23 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | Jolla and the Linux-Based Sailfish OS Survive Financial Problems [ http://ur1.ca/oct6j ] | Dec 23 01:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gchampeau/status/679607921391611904 | Dec 23 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gchampeau: @schestowitz Cisco said it would make a code review. An internal one. No independant review, of course. @All4Privacy | Dec 23 10:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/679608292822351872 | Dec 23 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @schestowitz @SE4NN Apple will have to wait a while, to be replaced by a new 'cool' thing and then reinvent themselves again. | Dec 23 10:28 | |
| schestowitz | >>> >> https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/12/17/so-called-oversight-in-omnicisa/ | Dec 23 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/12/17/so-called-oversight-in-omnicisa/ ) | Dec 23 10:28 | |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> her RSS feed looks broken | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | >> > Someone ought to tell her | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | > No contact information, not even on her site. | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | Twitter is the best bet. I'll tell her | Dec 23 10:28 |
| schestowitz | @emptywheel your RSS feed is broken, someone asked me to tell you | Dec 23 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/679741249046228992 | Dec 23 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz FOOTNOTE: https://t.co/DqsEXA4sCG | Dec 23 19:21 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz FOOTNOTE: https://t.co/DqsEXA4sCG | Dec 23 19:21 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/679771808351031297 | Dec 23 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: What's in the 'surveillance' act Obama signed ? @schestowitz https://t.co/hIekDskxKe | Dec 23 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cnbc.com | The controversial 'surveillance' act Obama just signed | Dec 23 21:56 | |
| schestowitz | This show is hilarious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankun | Dec 23 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Pankun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 23 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.buzzfeed.com/peggy/top-20-adorable-screenshots-of-pan-kun-and-james#.dlXLYb5ER | Dec 23 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.buzzfeed.com | Top 20 Adorable Screenshots Of Pan-Kun And James | Dec 23 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36036/ | Dec 23 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: I'm so tired of this: Training Girls Away From Technical Careers | Dec 23 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | I want to read articles related to Linux, open source, and technology. Not political issues. I'm not sexist and I have no problems with women working in technology related fields (or any fields). What exactly changed? Lately it feels like every technology site I visit is pushing this agenda. I think I might go back to reading print media, because this is starting to wear me out. All I read was the title and blurb of the article and it | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | puts me in a sour mood. I'm so over this **it. | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, yeah, I get it. My lack of interest must be one of the big reasons for this problem of lack of women in IT! Sorry for not doing enough. Give me a ****ing break already. | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Yes, Richard, your egotistical sexism is indeed one of the reasons for this problem. | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | There are two sexes of humans in this world, and each can work. Get used to it. | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | "I'm with RichardLinx on this one. This kind of attitude looking for women everywhere creates sexism and this has no place in technology. We want capable persons doing good job, with balls or nips, we don't care. No one should hold a technological job because of balls or nips. This kind of stupidity has become so normal that even parliaments have reserved seats for women here in France. I don't come to LXer for this either." | Dec 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | There was a discussion some time back on The Register related to this issue. IIRC it was primarily about harrasment in the workplace, mainly aimed at women but as often happens, the commentary widens outer into a general issue. I think the general conclusion of a lot commentators was that this was a much more overt and obvious problem in the US. One the one side, some respondents say that they haven't seen overt sexism in the workplace | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | and it must be fairly isolated in this day and age. On the other hand, other respondents claim that it is rife throughout the industry and those claiming that they haven't seen it must be just blind or lacking awareness. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Some of my closest work friends are women and, where I worked with them in the UK, I can confidently say there was no sexism. At all. However, one of my female friends did relate some indicative stories from her past where she experienced this kind of thing, so it certainly does exist. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Then we hear about conferences in the US where female speakers are rudely interrupted by snickering "teenagers", having to suffer personal smears in public and privately via forums and e-mail. Sexism in Europe almost certainly does happen but it seems an awful lot rarer than over the pond, but even in Europe I expect that cultural differences play a part in the frequency of it. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | So it seems that some women suffer this kind of thing disproportionately in certain environments. I think it is a good sign that we are outraged when we hear about this kind of thing online whereas at one time it was pretty much par for the course in many places. I take heart from that. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | I know that this subject is only tangentially related to the story but such attitudes are entrenched in whole generations. In many places we have made good progress and long may progress continue. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | I have to say that I don't agree with RichardLinx above. If we stop talking about this issue, it will never be fixed. I do not agree with "positive discrimination" in any area. Discrimination is discrimination wherever you find it. But we must keep airing this issue from time to time to keep it alive. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Slavery wasn't abolished because it was talked about a bit then everyone forgot about it. We still speak about it because we never want it to return. | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | "Slavery has only been abolished in a percentage of the world. We still need to be talking about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_slavery " | Dec 23 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Contemporary slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 23 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Inflexible brains with outdated, simple-minded, counter-productive attitudes are what create sexism and a whole lot of other problems in technology and everywhere else. | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Think about it. | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | @albinard : Think about that : | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Someone jumps in your office and shouts : I'm a female and hence this job is mine ! | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | No, once you put forward your kind for some advantage, you're creating sexism and discrimination. | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | As far as is visible, females want reserved places as politicians, lawyers or technologists, but they never fight to work in sewrage, constructing roads and buildings, or to go to war in the front line. Because they don't have physical strength ? OK, then they don't have superior intellectual capabilities to claim that they *must* occupy the same number of jobs in the other fields. They can, but without any pre-determined posts. Let the | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | best ones win. | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | did you even read the article? | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | it is not claiming that women should get more techjobs regardless of their capacity, but rather that women are better at tech then men, yet are actively discouraged from pursuing tech careers. | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | it is also not about women demanding affirmative action as you seem to suggest, nor is it looking for women everywhere, but rather gives us examples of capable women that deserve to work in IT because they excel at working with technology. | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | it is about the best ones being denied an opportunity to prove themselves. | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | how can the best ones win, when they are not allowed to enter the race? | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | But the fact of coining "linux women technology" is itself a sexist request in my view, an affirmative action as you say. | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | Quoting the OP : "I want to read articles related to Linux, open source, and technology. Not political issues." | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | Translation: | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | "I'm fine. I haven't had to deal with this; and I don't want to. It's too much trouble -- and it doesn't affect me personally, anyway. I'm comfortable with the way things are, and I resent anyone else trying to make me recognize a problem that I otherwise don't even notice and doesn't bother me in my own personal circumstances." | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:40 |
| schestowitz | "the article spells it out very clearly: people outside of the IT industry (and also people in the industry) are telling women that they are not fit for the job. can't really get more preventative than that." | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | There's a lot of testosterone being flung around here at the moment. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | The issue is simple. *Some* women/girls are being demonstrably discouraged from entering IT. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | It shouldn't happen. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | That's basically it folks. Nothing more to see. Please move along. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | End of story. | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 23 22:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | To be fair, it isn't just women/girls being discouraged from becoming interested in tech related fields. Depending on a given neighborhood/environment, a parent/guardian/caregiver may see such things as a waste of time. This is an issue that affects quite a few people, even today. | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | With that said, it's not about, "It doesn't affect me, so I don't want to deal with it." Too many things have become politicized to the point where a given field that was once fun is no longer such. Sometimes it gets to the level where friendships end and family members no longer speak to one another. It sort of reminds me of one of the Mighty Ducks movies where the kid in the middle of the controversy regarding which team he gets to play | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | on put it best. He simply said, "I just want to play hockey." | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Those who do software simply want to code. Others simply want to build systems, test software, put together networks, and more. They don't care about anything else. They just want to work in tech. | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | In other words, I can understand where some of the irritation is coming from. | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 22:42 |
| schestowitz | there aren't many women who think they can do IT | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | So some sites show it's possible | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | to encourage them | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | but some companies are femme-washing | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | for self-promotion | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | and therein lies the issue | Dec 23 22:43 |
| schestowitz | IMHO | Dec 23 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6927749 | Dec 24 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: DoJ forced #Google to turn over @ioerror email, then gagged Google https://boingboing.net/2015/12/23/doj-forced-google-to-turn-over.html because US 'loves' freedom, like MS loves Linux | Dec 24 11:31 | |
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| schestowitz | "Jacob was using Gmail?! Seriously?!?!! | Dec 24 11:32 |
| schestowitz | He said he had done it to entrap Google | Dec 24 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/680439005343793152 | Dec 25 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jurasick: @schestowitz as much as I admire the symbolism, I would hate to be a professional musician right about now. Diminishing livelihood options. | Dec 25 20:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/VigilantRobot/status/680440179128139776 | Dec 25 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VigilantRobot: @jurasick @schestowitz I've a friend who worked in the industry and said artists often leak their own music cuz they're screwed by the label | Dec 25 20:25 | |
| schestowitz | True | Dec 25 20:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/680445883708784640 | Dec 25 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jurasick: @VigilantRobot @schestowitz that's probably true. But I haven't heard of a labels alternative to make musicians happy. And stop piracy. | Dec 25 20:26 | |
| schestowitz | Copying music isn't piracy, it's copyright infringement, based on laws that need amending | Dec 25 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | [OT] | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Our 1-year membership at Thistle/Portland is coming to end in one month. We joined it after Midland had closed the gym. We can renew our membership at Thistle/Portland for 200 pounds per year per person. This is the standard fare my wife and I get there, including towels. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Earlier this year we tried The Spa for several days and we liked it. We realise, however, that the cost for membership would double for us. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Earlier this year you made various offers for returning members and for couples, including free month, complimentary treatments etc. We could not take advantage of those because we already had an ongoing one-year membership at Thistle/Portland. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | We received several calls from Craig (or maybe another person on another occasion) and said we'd be ready to consider joining in January. We are still not sure whether or not to join. It'll all down to price. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | We would like to negotiate the price that we get (irrespective of treatment, free month etc.) in order to make an informed decision some time in the next couple of weeks. If negotiation of price necessitates meeting, that would be fine. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Previously, under Amanda, Rianne and I paid 27 pounds each (corporate rate). This went on for over a year until closure. We realise that 27/pound is not a price we can get anymore (not with towels and other benefits), but we're hoping to be able to get a fare at somewhere around 40 pounds to lure us away from Thistle/Portland and back to where I'd gone since 2001. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Please get in touch by phone or E-mail at your earliest convenience. | Dec 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Icheyne/status/680500401985183748 | Dec 25 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Icheyne: @schestowitz Do you crosspost your twitter/identica/diaspora stream to RSS? If not, please could you? | Dec 25 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | use this: techrights.org/category/news-roundup/feed/ | Dec 25 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/680819898403164160 | Dec 26 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz sadly and amazingly, yes. He supported legalization of immigrants, for one example, a last voice of at least some reason | Dec 26 19:02 | |
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