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| DaemonFC | [–]fengshaun [score hidden] 16 minutes ago | Oct 02 00:02 |
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| DaemonFC | Have you verified that your ip actually changes when you renew your DHCP lease? | Oct 02 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply | Oct 02 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point a minute ago | Oct 02 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yes I have. Comcast usually gives me a new IP address every time I unplug my modem for a while, which I do each night. My IP address has changed several times and always blocked on Lenovo Forums. | Oct 02 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how many people they have potentially blocked just to try to keep me out, but it hasn't worked. It may inconvenience other customers that need help with their Lenovo PC but use Comcast and get the ban message. | Oct 02 00:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782380327708856321 | Oct 02 00:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Cossacks 3' officially due on Linux in the second half | Oct 02 00:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of October https://t.co/zD5c2FiPtQ (error) | Oct 02 00:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782384267732979712 | Oct 02 00:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/vWcNJfPZm9 | Oct 02 00:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 00:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 00:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 02 00:34 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Apple EFI checks to see if it's booting OS X and then powers off the Thunderbolt ports if it isn't. Linux contains workaround code for this. | Oct 02 02:18 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/maxpolk/status/782416574191808512 | Oct 02 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maxpolk: @schestowitz @reddit Desperation for @lenovo getting *extremely* desperate after their conspiracy with @Microsoft to ban Linux went public | Oct 02 03:29 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: on the upside... | Oct 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | hundreds saw your headline | Oct 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | and dozens read the body | Oct 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: are you OK with me reposting it in techrights? | Oct 02 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah | Oct 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | is there enough background in there? | Oct 02 03:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: this can go on for months | Oct 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz | and ought to | Oct 02 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know where to take this next. | Oct 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: can you add an intro sentence? | Oct 02 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Like? | Oct 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz | To explain it's you who started the whole thing and what it did? | Oct 02 04:00 |
| schestowitz | the existing text being the latest | Oct 02 04:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: so that it doens't start like "Oh, yeah..." | Oct 02 04:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: just once concise sentence | Oct 02 04:02 |
| schestowitz | explain it's you who starrted it | Oct 02 04:02 |
| schestowitz | I started typing it up | Oct 02 04:02 |
| schestowitz | maybe reddit is useless (or the sub) | Oct 02 04:03 |
| schestowitz | so we can use techrights now to keep it talked about | Oct 02 04:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: leave ir with me | Oct 02 04:04 |
| schestowitz | I'll write an intro | Oct 02 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, you're probably better at that than I am. | Oct 02 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | Reddit punishes posts that aren't boring. | Oct 02 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | Cats and stuff. | Oct 02 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Microsoft has their own subreddits. | Oct 02 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | janemsft is a mod in the Windows 10 subreddit. | Oct 02 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | errr, jenmsft | Oct 02 04:07 |
| schestowitz | ok, hang on | Oct 02 04:09 |
| schestowitz | almost there | Oct 02 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/55as6r/is_my_feedback_actually_used/ | Oct 02 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is my feedback actually used? : windowsphone | Oct 02 04:09 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 02 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | New Windows 10 releases fix one thing and break something else (sometimes even the update itself won't install). | Oct 02 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | It feels like Microsoft is shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. | Oct 02 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/81659/microsoft-delivers-yet-another-broken-windows-10-update | Oct 02 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Delivers Yet Another Broken Windows 10 Update - Thurrott.com | Oct 02 04:13 | |
| DaemonFC | "Microsoft is pushing the idea that you should always patch your machine on the day the update is released as they often release security patches that fix vulnerabilities. But, until the company can get a handle on their quality control issues, such as the Anniversary update breaking millions of webcams, it feels like every time you run Windows update you are rolling the dice." | Oct 02 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | Oh good. Now you don't have to tape over the webcam if you're a high school student so your pervy principle won't use the RAT the school installed to your laptop to watch you naked in your bedroom. (Yeah, that actually happened a while ago.) | Oct 02 04:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: fair to say it started in techrights irc? | Oct 02 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Oct 02 04:18 |
| schestowitz | ok, wait | Oct 02 04:20 |
| schestowitz | 5 mins | Oct 02 04:20 |
| schestowitz | from now on, write your rants in techrights too | Oct 02 04:20 |
| schestowitz | the corporate media is 'done' with it | Oct 02 04:20 |
| schestowitz | even reddit | Oct 02 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The way many people respond in Reddit is odd. | Oct 02 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | Why would people be falling over themselves in defense of Microsoft there? | Oct 02 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft hasn't done any favors for people who want to use Linux on their PC. uEFI has brought about literally thousands of problems all by itself even if the OEM isn't trying to lock Linux out. | Oct 02 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | PCs are a lot more like Macs now. Bad firmware and all. | Oct 02 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | I was excited for a while because I heard that uEFI would have an open source implementation. | Oct 02 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | Then they based it on the open source implementation and signed it so only they could update it. | Oct 02 04:26 |
| cubexyz | ok, renewed cubeman.tk for another year... it's still free | Oct 02 04:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/ | Oct 02 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights | Oct 02 04:30 | |
| schestowitz | forget about reddit for now | Oct 02 04:30 |
| schestowitz | the effort taken to prevent burial is huge | Oct 02 04:30 |
| schestowitz | so use your own platforms | Oct 02 04:30 |
| schestowitz | this kind of censorship in digg is why we needed boycottnovell | Oct 02 04:30 |
| schestowitz | at some stage people are not willing to let their platform be 'hijacked' by causes | Oct 02 04:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not seen any coverage of it since Friday | Oct 02 04:31 |
| schestowitz | when I gave you a link about it | Oct 02 04:31 |
| schestowitz | and thsi coverage repeated the face-saving lie | Oct 02 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I don't think that people are buying it. | Oct 02 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | Even the people that try to make excuses for it probably wouldn't buy one themselves if they wanted to run Linux. | Oct 02 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782486880113795072 | Oct 02 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SUSE: Mesa, Kernel, GNOME, KDE apps update in Tumbleweed | Oct 02 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rmrW42Ipej (news.opensuse.org) | Oct 02 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 04:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE News | Oct 02 04:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782498196345982976 | Oct 02 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in | Oct 02 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems | Oct 02 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org) | Oct 02 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 04:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yogatailor favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...' | Oct 02 04:34 | |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't have any problem getting a used Lenovo X60, T60 or X200 with libreboot | Oct 02 04:37 |
| cubexyz | otherwise no lenovo for me | Oct 02 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, The hardware in this laptop is pretty decent. Windows 10 isn't. | Oct 02 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | One thing that really bugs me is that a lot of Windows apps are not meant to be used on HiDPI displays, so you get little butons and stuff and can't really use the app. | Oct 02 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | Peazip is like that. | Oct 02 04:39 |
| cubexyz | for GM45 chipsets installing libreboot means the Intel management engine is gone | Oct 02 04:40 |
| cubexyz | that's a big deal for me | Oct 02 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | It can bring up the processor without IME? | Oct 02 04:40 |
| cubexyz | yes, on certain models | Oct 02 04:41 |
| cubexyz | of course, some hardware just doesn't have management engine at all | Oct 02 04:43 |
| cubexyz | also getting rid of that code gives you more room for other stuff for coreboot | Oct 02 04:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pkrumins/status/782489296414601216 | Oct 02 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pkrumins: @schestowitz Tux celebrating Wine release. https://t.co/GbyXEM6oAj | Oct 02 04:45 | |
| cubexyz | there's a 5 megabits of ME code | Oct 02 04:46 |
| cubexyz | there's also a smaller version which is 3 megabits | Oct 02 04:46 |
| cubexyz | coreboot people now refer to Intel ME has "Panic level 9000+" | Oct 02 04:47 |
| cubexyz | s/has/as/ | Oct 02 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 | Oct 02 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo Community | Oct 02 04:50 | |
| cubexyz | here's a chart of the current ME situation: | Oct 02 04:50 |
| cubexyz | https://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_Engine | Oct 02 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Intel Management Engine - coreboot | Oct 02 04:50 | |
| cubexyz | Intel ME is great for the NSA, bad for everyone else | Oct 02 04:52 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 02 04:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel Inside... | Oct 02 04:56 |
| schestowitz | Intelligence | Oct 02 04:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoft | Oct 02 04:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "From a MS official site: " the Microsoft MVP Award is our way of saying Thanks!"" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfing | Oct 02 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - Techrights | Oct 02 04:58 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: keep showing me links like that | Oct 02 05:00 |
| schestowitz | I'll circulate best I can... | Oct 02 05:00 |
| cubexyz | what you want for starters is a laptop with a socketed DIP or PLCC chip | Oct 02 05:00 |
| cubexyz | you'll need a special tool for removing PLCC chips | Oct 02 05:01 |
| cubexyz | but you'll be save from bricking your laptop | Oct 02 05:02 |
| cubexyz | X200, X60, T60 etc merely has the _potential_ to be free of Intel ME | Oct 02 05:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/782505711720734720 | Oct 02 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7 | Oct 02 05:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7 | Oct 02 05:03 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/td-p/3439442 | Oct 02 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo Community | Oct 02 05:04 | |
| cubexyz | Gigabyte GA-6BXC has a socketed DIP chip for BIOS | Oct 02 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782501624556220416 | Oct 02 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in | Oct 02 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems | Oct 02 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org) | Oct 02 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 05:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights | Oct 02 05:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507065168236544 | Oct 02 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sabayon Bizarre But Useful https://t.co/YSwkTHTmk0 | Oct 02 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (freedompenguin.com) | Oct 02 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 05:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Sabayon Bizarre But Useful - Freedom Penguin | Oct 02 05:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507698994704384 | Oct 02 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "special Korean Edition of neon's Developer Edition | Oct 02 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tracking the stable branch of KDE's code repositories." | Oct 02 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HWLl66OYaq (blogs.kde.org) | Oct 02 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 05:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE neon Korean Developer Edition (... and future CJK Edition?) | blogs.kde.org | Oct 02 05:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54j74w/can_someone_recommend_me_penetration_testing/ | Oct 02 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Can someone recommend me Penetration testing linux distros for slow Pc's? : linux | Oct 02 05:15 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I saw you in "Not the Lenovo Yoga!" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54uahw/linux_laptop_suggestions/ | Oct 02 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux laptop suggestions? : linux | Oct 02 05:27 | |
| schestowitz | I was trying to find whether someone mentioned Lenovo | Oct 02 05:27 |
| schestowitz | "I bought a lenovo ideapad y700 earlier this year. It is a beautiful machine and runs Linux Mint perfectly. Excellent for gaming." | Oct 02 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It seems it's hit or miss. Probably since the MS deal is recent. | Oct 02 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | The first 900 didn't block Linux. | Oct 02 05:28 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soj2/should_we_make_an_effort_to_make_hardware_stop/ | Oct 02 05:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should we make an effort to make hardware stop claiming to be "Linux Supported!" if it stopped working after a kernel released years ago? : linux | Oct 02 05:33 | |
| schestowitz | did you see their MS patent deal?\ | Oct 02 05:33 |
| schestowitz | OEM deal? | Oct 02 05:33 |
| schestowitz | and patent settlement? | Oct 02 05:33 |
| schestowitz | Maybe only for Android, but it's a secret deal, so who knows... | Oct 02 05:33 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it in the summer | Oct 02 05:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782508631782817792 | Oct 02 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Say not Goodbye, say #Sayonara https://t.co/3IFuZeysoV | Oct 02 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.ocsmag.com) | Oct 02 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Say not Goodbye, say Sayonara | OCS-Mag | Oct 02 05:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782513193369346048 | Oct 02 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and How | Oct 02 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | We’re Fixing it https://t.co/ghIqiU7BE9 (blogs.s-osg.org) | Oct 02 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.s-osg.org/problem-linux-kernel-documentation-fixing/ ) | Oct 02 05:37 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "Whatever you do stay away from the Thinkpad X230, worst trackpad I've ever used." https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54jyuc/decent_linux_laptop_for_2016/ #lenovo ruins #ibm business | Oct 02 05:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Decent Linux Laptop for 2016? : linux | Oct 02 05:38 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 02 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | Stay away from recent Lenovo Yogas. They don't let you install Linux at all. So unless wasting your money on a fast SSD that Linux can't even see and resorting to running it off a SD card or thumb drive is something you want to do, stay away from Lenovo. Lenovo no = Not good for Linux. If anything the problem will get worse. | Oct 02 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | err, meant to say Lenovo = not good for Linux | Oct 02 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | changed that | Oct 02 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | We should make sure to emphasize that so that people think Lenovo and then "I probably can't run Linux on that.". | Oct 02 05:42 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/556rkk/is_it_safe_to_install_gnome_320_on_ubuntu_16041/ | Oct 02 05:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is it safe to install GNOME 3.20 on Ubuntu 16.04.1 using ppa? : linux | Oct 02 05:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54p0gg/the_us_presidential_candidates_on_technology/ | Oct 02 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The U.S. presidential candidates on technology, privacy issues [including use of open source software in government] : linux | Oct 02 05:51 | |
| schestowitz | "Can someone find that video of Hillary Clinton tripping all over herself to figure out what Firefox and open source software were when she was SoS and a federal employee asked her why they had to use Internet Explorer?" | Oct 02 05:51 |
| schestowitz | LOL at " tripping all over herself" | Oct 02 05:52 |
| schestowitz | http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/ | Oct 02 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ijr.com | I Protected Hillary Clinton In The Secret Service - Here's Why Her 'Fainting' Video Really Scares Me | Oct 02 05:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vfux/what_do_you_think_about_the_business_model_of/ | Oct 02 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What do you think about the business model of Parted Magic? : linux | Oct 02 05:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, too soon? | Oct 02 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z4UEr2ekOY | Oct 02 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hillary Clinton thinks saving money is complicated - YouTube | Oct 02 06:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @maelpoke favourited 'The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and How...' | Oct 02 06:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @chakrasbydidi favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...' | Oct 02 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vdp8/lenovo_courts_devs_with_moto_z_source_code_release/ | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz | "I see the development kit is apparently released and the kernel sources is apparently released. Is the bootloader locked? Does this mean that I am able to actually compile the kernel myself and install it on the phone? Am I able to compile Android myself as well? What restrictions are there?" | Oct 02 06:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Courts Devs With Moto Z Source Code Release : linux | Oct 02 06:04 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's one of the most restrictive phones you can get, and it's a Verizon exclusive afaik. | Oct 02 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | So even if it was easy to mode, few people have it. | Oct 02 06:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12578204 | Oct 02 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | So while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in ge... | Hacker News | Oct 02 06:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 06:12 |
| schestowitz | So while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in general. | Oct 02 06:12 |
| schestowitz | Context: I'm one of the original leads on LXQt, and I initiated the merge of Razor-qt and LXDE-Qt into LXQt. | Oct 02 06:12 |
| schestowitz | I've been using LXQt as my main desktop for several years now. I've kept up with what other desktops have been doing. I've been especially impressed by the efforts of the GNOME team, and especially disappointed with the clusterfuck KDE has become... but those are just details. | Oct 02 06:12 |
| schestowitz | I feel like the Linux desktop is dead, and one of the worst examples of open source software right now. | Oct 02 06:12 |
| schestowitz | Almost nobody actually collaborates on anything. Everybody wants to do their own thing and it leads to developer fragmentation. Every project is undermanned. LXQt is especially undermanned right now. The Cinnamon guys, last I heard, want to switch to Qt but don't have the developers to do it and would end up being a LXQt clone. | Oct 02 06:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 06:12 |
| cubexyz | come on, linux is definitely not dead | Oct 02 06:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/782525961799598080 | Oct 02 06:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7 | Oct 02 06:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7 | Oct 02 06:25 | |
| schestowitz | site down? https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtml | Oct 02 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtml ) | Oct 02 06:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782521042388516865 | Oct 02 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Welcome to the 36th installation of This Week in Solus." | Oct 02 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GdQBkAD01N (solus-project.com) | Oct 02 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 06:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #36 | Solus | Oct 02 06:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782523195349954561 | Oct 02 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What’s New in Elementary OS 0.4 Loki | Oct 02 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6LlMIFEKOT (linuxscoop.com) | Oct 02 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 06:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | What's New in Elementary OS 0.4 Loki - Linux Scoop | Oct 02 06:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782524963865653248 | Oct 02 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why kernel development still uses email | Oct 02 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JRKkuuxSze (lwn.net) | Oct 02 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 06:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why kernel development still uses email [LWN.net] | Oct 02 06:28 | |
| cubexyz | oh man that's brutal... they tried to OCR fraktur | Oct 02 06:31 |
| cubexyz | just buy the english translation :-P | Oct 02 06:32 |
| schestowitz | https://camo.githubusercontent.com/b07bd2390cdd348e6404e46a97e3f35d2be5c25e/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f7444314f4251332e706e67 | Oct 02 06:46 |
| schestowitz | http://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-signature-pc-program-allegedly-blocks-installation-of-linux-or-does-it | Oct 02 06:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? | HotHardware | Oct 02 06:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54e5w1/microsoft_signature_pc_program_allegedly_blocks/ | Oct 02 06:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? : linux | Oct 02 06:48 | |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg | Oct 02 07:12 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @jiem1978 favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...' | Oct 02 07:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782528689179426816 | Oct 02 07:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "competing projects create and spread FUD about Linux | Oct 02 07:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mint in an effort to promote their own distribution." | Oct 02 07:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MJXNiXnERO (segfault.linuxmint.com) | Oct 02 07:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 07:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segfault.linuxmint.com | Addressing FUD ← Segfault | Oct 02 07:13 | |
| cubexyz | oh dear... | Oct 02 07:21 |
| cubexyz | https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/10/01/2155209/multiple-linux-distributions-affected-by-crippling-bug-in-systemd | Oct 02 07:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Multiple Linux Distributions Affected By Crippling Bug In Systemd - Slashdot | Oct 02 07:21 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpg | Oct 02 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543065571393537 | Oct 02 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives https://t.co/WXp7PRgY2C | Oct 02 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 07:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Oct 02 07:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543067450441730 | Oct 02 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/iO4C5DPSJG | Oct 02 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 07:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 02 07:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543069212139520 | Oct 02 07:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uzwoydirQw | Oct 02 07:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 07:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 07:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 02 07:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543071225389056 | Oct 02 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/8dCqMvb47I | Oct 02 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 07:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 02 07:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543072433352704 | Oct 02 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/wIkEXy5q11 | Oct 02 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 07:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 02 07:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543132567146496 | Oct 02 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Oct 02 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016: | Oct 02 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXE | Oct 02 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 07:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Techrights | Oct 02 07:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916536 | Oct 02 07:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The media no longer seems to be interested in us showing it that #lenovo lied. I guess they see no business model/gain in it.Like #superfish | Oct 02 07:41 | |
| cubexyz | not to often I see Plan 9 advocacy | Oct 02 07:41 |
| cubexyz | honestly though it's simpler just to use slack | Oct 02 07:53 |
| cubexyz | If I'm doing the programming you can be sure I'm going to test on openbsd, slackware, FC1, and maybe Fedora 14 | Oct 02 07:59 |
| cubexyz | I stopped using Fedora after version 14 | Oct 02 07:59 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/mNxDJU5 | Oct 02 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This site login - Imgur | Oct 02 09:09 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's an interesting way of exploit protection. | Oct 02 09:10 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 09:11 |
| XRevan86 | "You're using eval? You should think of security: forbid quotation mark usage." | Oct 02 09:11 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/MSF89TT.gifv | Oct 02 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Oct 02 09:32 | |
| cubexyz | ummm | Oct 02 09:37 |
| cubexyz | yeah the word shell definitely could be part of an email address | Oct 02 09:38 |
| cubexyz | lol at the tetris pic | Oct 02 09:40 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/jJ80AgJ.jpg | Oct 02 10:11 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aE42F1B.png | Oct 02 10:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So was faith of most of Russians. But then Yeltsin fixed it by making capitalism worse than Gorbachov's reforms. | Oct 02 10:26 |
| MinceR | that is, in russia | Oct 02 10:28 |
| MinceR | he couldn't make it worse anywhere else | Oct 02 10:29 |
| XRevan86 | I think Yeltsin is the reason why Russian population in general doesn't like regime changes. | Oct 02 10:29 |
| MinceR | but putler will | Oct 02 10:29 |
| XRevan86 | They know on their skin it can get much worse. | Oct 02 10:29 |
| XRevan86 | Because even Gorbachov wasn't that bad as what regime change delivered. | Oct 02 10:30 |
| XRevan86 | > he couldn't make it worse anywhere else | Oct 02 10:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's a weird thought. | Oct 02 10:33 |
| MinceR | why would it be? | Oct 02 10:33 |
| XRevan86 | It's very hard to make worse something that was already near bottom. | Oct 02 10:33 |
| MinceR | global nuclear winter will make capitalism worse | Oct 02 10:33 |
| MinceR | as in, we all starve to death | Oct 02 10:33 |
| MinceR | plants die without light | Oct 02 10:33 |
| MinceR | anything that eats plants dies without food | Oct 02 10:33 |
| XRevan86 | People genuinely thought any change could go only up because below was only the floor. | Oct 02 10:33 |
| MinceR | they'll find out that it can indeed get worse | Oct 02 10:34 |
| MinceR | and maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worse | Oct 02 10:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I mean, realisticly worse. | Oct 02 10:34 |
| XRevan86 | not nuclear worse | Oct 02 10:34 |
| MinceR | that's quite realistic | Oct 02 10:34 |
| XRevan86 | > and maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worse | Oct 02 10:35 |
| XRevan86 | Humans are jerks. | Oct 02 10:35 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 10:35 |
| XRevan86 | Don't blame the 1%, blame the 100%. | Oct 02 10:35 |
| XRevan86 | Damn, I hope that won't catch on. | Oct 02 10:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 10:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/09/30/mads-caption-contest-winner | Oct 02 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | MAD’s Caption Contest Winner! | Mad Magazine | Oct 02 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782545040946192384 | Oct 02 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Oct 02 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016: | Oct 02 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXE | Oct 02 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Techrights | Oct 02 10:48 | |
| MinceR | http://wandpcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/WandP49site.png | Oct 02 10:51 |
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| cubexyz | oh boy, someone at google books got CPE Bach and Johann Sebastian Bach mixed up | Oct 02 11:31 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 11:32 |
| cubexyz | rather disappointing | Oct 02 11:32 |
| cubexyz | Carl was the 2nd son of Johann Sebastian in case anyone was wondering | Oct 02 11:38 |
| cubexyz | 1714 to 1788 | Oct 02 11:39 |
| MinceR | http://www.sciencealert.com/80-of-the-data-in-chinese-clinical-trial-is-fabricated | Oct 02 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-80% of data in Chinese clinical trials have been fabricated - ScienceAlert | Oct 02 11:40 | |
| cubexyz | I was a bit taken aback over the price of the Novena | Oct 02 11:42 |
| cubexyz | $500 for just the motherboard | Oct 02 11:42 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Z1h6NjN | Oct 02 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Great sorting job Outlook for Mac - very useful - Imgur | Oct 02 11:42 | |
| MinceR | too bad the novena case is not conducive for use in lap | Oct 02 11:42 |
| MinceR | the same issue exists with most "2 in 1"s | Oct 02 11:43 |
| cubexyz | what's the problem with it? | Oct 02 11:43 |
| cubexyz | I suppose you mean the monitor being turned around the other way? | Oct 02 11:43 |
| MinceR | there's no place where you can put the keyboard that is connected to the display so you can hold the whole thing by holding on to the keyboard/wristpad | Oct 02 11:44 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 02 11:44 |
| MinceR | so either the computer or the keyboard will fall off your lap | Oct 02 11:44 |
| schestowitz | Juve translation is half done. | Oct 02 11:44 |
| schestowitz | to be posted in techrights soon, re EPO lies | Oct 02 11:44 |
| cubexyz | I can't think of anything decent laptop-wise other than chromebooks | Oct 02 11:45 |
| cubexyz | I guess X200 with libreboot would be OK | Oct 02 11:46 |
| MinceR | thinkpads still seem to be fine, aside from the usual issues like intel ME and m$ tax | Oct 02 11:46 |
| cubexyz | well you'd most likely be looking at a used one for X200 | Oct 02 11:47 |
| MinceR | i mostly looked at the x260 | Oct 02 11:48 |
| MinceR | comes with an intel gpu that's more powerful than any gpu i ever had | Oct 02 11:48 |
| MinceR | and finally they made them black again | Oct 02 11:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL...' | Oct 02 11:49 | |
| cubexyz | the old R30's weren't very repairable :-/ | Oct 02 11:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782607511815847936 | Oct 02 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW | Oct 02 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 11:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 11:50 | |
| MinceR | well, the R series was the old cheapness-oriented series, wasn't it? | Oct 02 11:50 |
| cubexyz | could be | Oct 02 11:50 |
| cubexyz | that x260 is going to generate a lot of heat | Oct 02 11:51 |
| MinceR | i didn't have issues with cooling before, except when there was accumulated dust in my x220it | Oct 02 11:52 |
| cubexyz | but it looks pretty decent otherwise... if you ignore the win10 preloaded | Oct 02 11:52 |
| MinceR | i cleaned it out and the issue went away | Oct 02 11:52 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Oct 02 11:52 |
| MinceR | according to https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X260 it still supports legacy boot | Oct 02 11:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.freebsd.org | Laptops/Thinkpad_X260 - FreeBSD Wiki | Oct 02 11:52 | |
| cubexyz | that's a big plus | Oct 02 11:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 11:53 |
| MinceR | as far as i'm concerned, a requirement :> | Oct 02 11:53 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144 | Oct 02 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/ | Oct 02 11:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Really. I was thinking of getting a Lenovo machine. Well I better stay with Dell, they make great machines." | Oct 02 11:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW' | Oct 02 11:54 | |
| cubexyz | I can report the HP chromebook 14 with Tegra K1 doesn't get hot at all | Oct 02 11:54 |
| MinceR | lol, dHell | Oct 02 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Acer and ASUS are OK also, maybe HP | Oct 02 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights | Oct 02 11:54 | |
| cubexyz | and it's fanless... had it in my lap for hours | Oct 02 11:54 |
| MinceR | schestowitz had complaints about an hp chromebook | Oct 02 11:54 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139 | Oct 02 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpg | Oct 02 11:54 | |
| MinceR | (the keyboard, specifically) | Oct 02 11:54 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes | Oct 02 11:54 |
| schestowitz | we returned it | Oct 02 11:54 |
| schestowitz | swapped for Acer | Oct 02 11:54 |
| cubexyz | it's tolerable :) | Oct 02 11:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 11:54 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: ^ your image ago | Oct 02 11:55 |
| schestowitz | *above | Oct 02 11:55 |
| cubexyz | not the greatest, I admit | Oct 02 11:55 |
| MinceR | too bad hp's website is a total pain in the ass to use | Oct 02 11:55 |
| schestowitz | "Ah, Okay." | Oct 02 11:55 |
| schestowitz | "Why are people complaining about the change?" | Oct 02 11:55 |
| schestowitz | "http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemd" | Oct 02 11:55 |
| MinceR | so i have no idea what i'd buy if i were to buy hp | Oct 02 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for you | Oct 02 11:55 | |
| cubexyz | I don't even really like talking to HP | Oct 02 11:55 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure they don't enjoy talking to me much either | Oct 02 11:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 11:55 |
| cubexyz | but I still use two of their computers and they're not bad | Oct 02 11:56 |
| MinceR | it's nice to have more data points | Oct 02 11:57 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, I'll have to look at the acer with Tegra K1 | Oct 02 11:58 |
| cubexyz | almost everything comes with win10 | Oct 02 12:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RichardBaeck/status/782612592657330178 | Oct 02 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardBaeck: RT @schestowitz #Bees added to US endangered species list for the first time https://t.co/kXAWhF9EXR it's starting | Oct 02 12:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://gnusocial.de/url/3144843 ) | Oct 02 12:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AnarchistDalek/status/782613687257313280 | Oct 02 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnarchistDalek: 🤔 https://t.co/QyvXXFnMUi | Oct 02 12:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Read this: https://t.co/OEyumMGvUQ And then this: https://t.co/FEGKzKqOOB Some people pretend better https://t.co/dZAc866OIe | Oct 02 12:13 | |
| cubexyz | lenovo has got 325 thumbs down so far :) | Oct 02 12:39 |
| schestowitz | where? | Oct 02 12:45 |
| cubexyz | just the pic being downloaded 325 times | Oct 02 12:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/god-the-action-figure.jpg | Oct 02 12:46 |
| cubexyz | with AK-47? | Oct 02 12:46 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Looks like a jedi | Oct 02 12:47 |
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| XRevan86 | > with kalashnikov AK-47 | Oct 02 12:49 |
| XRevan86 | Tautology. | Oct 02 12:49 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/O5aX0rC | Oct 02 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discard submission? Cancel uploads? I don't know what to do, Imgur... - Imgur | Oct 02 13:16 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7912310 | Oct 02 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lenovo is lying about #microsoft #linux and now about #layoffs http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.htm just as it lied about #superfish repeatedly | Oct 02 13:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft At Fault? : Tech : Gamenguide | Oct 02 13:58 | |
| schestowitz | "So they’ve been telling lies by making out it was a Linux Kernel problem." | Oct 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139 | Oct 02 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpg | Oct 02 13:59 | |
| schestowitz | "Although I don’t use Debian, I did not understand why they made this move considering their philosophy." | Oct 02 13:59 |
| schestowitz | "Quiero llorar." | Oct 02 13:59 |
| schestowitz | "What? The choice of systemd over the previous system (what was the name of the previus system)??" | Oct 02 13:59 |
| schestowitz | "Prior to systemD was sysVInit." | Oct 02 13:59 |
| schestowitz | "Ah, Okay." | Oct 02 14:00 |
| schestowitz | "Why are people complaining about the change?" | Oct 02 14:00 |
| schestowitz | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemd | Oct 02 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for you [ http://ur1.ca/ptxau ] | Oct 02 14:00 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8v | Oct 02 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google wasn't much help with physics homework - Imgur | Oct 02 14:03 | |
| MinceR | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd | Oct 02 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Arguments against systemd - Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jwtd5 ] | Oct 02 14:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916622 | Oct 02 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoft | Oct 02 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz | He’s on the wrong side. Generous or not. | Oct 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe there were generous Nazis too…but still it’s on the wrong side. | Oct 02 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo Community | Oct 02 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft MVPs compared to Nazis... :/ :-S | Oct 02 14:07 |
| MinceR | nazis were pretty evil | Oct 02 14:09 |
| MinceR | still are | Oct 02 14:09 |
| cubexyz | hopefully we can guilt Lenovo into fixing their bios | Oct 02 14:10 |
| MinceR | and their customer service | Oct 02 14:13 |
| MinceR | and their attitude | Oct 02 14:13 |
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| cubexyz | helping people use windows isn't really helping them | Oct 02 14:33 |
| cubexyz | each generation will get more and more dependent on Microsoft and less and less able to do things for themselves | Oct 02 14:34 |
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| cubexyz | I remember one guy putting a new version of windows on their computer... | Oct 02 14:36 |
| cubexyz | he couldn't use his scanner or his printer afterwards | Oct 02 14:36 |
| cubexyz | he went out and bought a new printer and new scanner... duh! | Oct 02 14:37 |
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| schestowitz | [19:03] <MinceR> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8v | Oct 02 14:45 |
| schestowitz | wrong answer. | Oct 02 14:45 |
| schestowitz | maybe 'ai' bs failure | Oct 02 14:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/782609646133518336 | Oct 02 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW | Oct 02 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 14:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 14:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @SwellnessYoga http://twitter.com/SwellnessYoga/status/782611963637620740 | Oct 02 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest SWELLNESS YOGA! https://t.co/pIYygKwuxT | Oct 02 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @nomondeb73 @tw57704087 @tuxmachines | Oct 02 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #yoga #fitness | Oct 02 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | SWELLNESS YOGA | Oct 02 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 14:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/782652057161461760 | Oct 02 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @AntiSoftwarePat @zoobab @schestowitz Have you guys seen Australia's Productivity Commission's IP report? Slams Software Patents | Oct 02 14:46 | |
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| MinceR | https://65.media.tumblr.com/363171b17c048cb26acbb9c9ea9f0175/tumblr_odk9o0nqMN1s02vreo1_250.gif | Oct 02 15:29 |
| cubexyz | the local computer store is selling Gigabyte 5010 no OS computers | Oct 02 15:38 |
| cubexyz | spam alert for tuxmachines | Oct 02 15:58 |
| cubexyz | football streaming links | Oct 02 15:58 |
| cubexyz | American Football I think :) | Oct 02 15:59 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHA | Oct 02 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Banach–Tarski Paradox - YouTube | Oct 02 16:18 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/50V1VAB.jpg | Oct 02 16:28 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They just approved a couple of posts to the ISK2 topic. | Oct 02 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | I know they're blocking some because one of my posts didn't appear and I've heard from someone else that it took 3 days before theirs did. | Oct 02 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6 | Oct 02 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6 ) | Oct 02 16:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, the 900S is worse. You can't even dump the BIOS at all according to one person on this forum. | Oct 02 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that annoying "Get Windows 10" app was hidden in a critical security update to Internet Explorer. | Oct 02 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | Interesting. | Oct 02 16:45 |
| MinceR | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/151093453030/gdb | Oct 02 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | gdb - DevOps Reactions | Oct 02 17:07 | |
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| brendyn | Is this legit, https://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.html ? | Oct 02 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkerer [ http://ur1.ca/ptyq6 ] | Oct 02 17:22 | |
| MinceR | dunno, i pretty much reflexively close that page | Oct 02 17:24 |
| MinceR | a clean fork would be welcome | Oct 02 17:26 |
| MinceR | i guess it will be inevitable anyway if noscript updates to fit the chrome-ish API in the newer, shittier failfox | Oct 02 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Matthew Garrett is retweeting Donald Trump. | Oct 02 17:42 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 02 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Garrett is British. They seem to have no shortage of Trump clones over there. | Oct 02 17:42 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 17:42 |
| MinceR | re the second sentence | Oct 02 17:42 |
| MinceR | dunno about the first | Oct 02 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson.... | Oct 02 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | At least Garrett can stay over there and screw his own country. | Oct 02 17:43 |
| MinceR | looks like we're all screwed | Oct 02 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, most "Western Democracies" are showing that they don't deserve democracy much more than the Islamic Republics do. :P | Oct 02 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | Truly sad. I mean, you'd expect what happens when you give a bunch of Muslims a democracy... | Oct 02 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | We get some of the ones that are trying to flee what the others are doing to them. | Oct 02 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | And we get some of the ones that are hardliners too. They come over here and tell us how much they hate us. | Oct 02 17:46 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 17:46 |
| MinceR | and the savages in the west are coming out of the woodwork | Oct 02 17:46 |
| MinceR | for brexit, Golden Dawnald, and for other calls | Oct 02 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's scary how close Trump is in the polls. | Oct 02 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that he *could* win. The fact that someone like him could come back in 4-8 years and be that close even if he doesn't. | Oct 02 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing that we can really hope for is that demographic shift happens. Clinton gets in and we get business as usual again while the people who like Trump fade a little bit more. (They're dying off but they're dangerous because they know they're fading and so nearly all of them are going to vote.) | Oct 02 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | That's what we have going on. He's whipping the vote. | Oct 02 17:50 |
| MinceR | maybe we'll find a way to only kill off humans, leaving the rest of the biosphere intact | Oct 02 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, the other side is lukewarm about Hillary so even though we theoretically outnumber Trump's supporters, the turnout will be lower. | Oct 02 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | If it wasn't for Republican voters being older and more of them dying off then Trump would probably win this year. | Oct 02 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | If we had an exact repeat of the 2012 election (turnout, demographics, etc.) Obama would have a net total of about 453,000 more votes. | Oct 02 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Clinton I mean. | Oct 02 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | But she's not making people feel good about voting for her. Her entire campaign is "I'm not Trump.". | Oct 02 17:53 |
| MinceR | hm, NotTrump sounds pretty good | Oct 02 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Would the extra die off on the Republican side help by itself? | Oct 02 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Depends on where they die. | Oct 02 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | The Electoral College means that if most of them die in, say, Texas, that doesn't really help Clinton. | Oct 02 17:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/1sDkHgZ | Oct 02 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-420 install it - Imgur | Oct 02 17:55 | |
| DaemonFC | If more of them die in states like Ohio or North Carolina, it could tip the balance. | Oct 02 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782652807757258752 | Oct 02 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/AWZcX14xhR | Oct 02 17:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 17:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782701648288165888 | Oct 02 18:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships | Oct 02 18:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 https://t.co/e6FdwTYgTy | Oct 02 18:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 18:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 18:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 | Tux Machines | Oct 02 18:00 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/NG3VX | Oct 02 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- TV thinks Will Smith is Japanese? ウィル・スミス - Album on Imgur | Oct 02 18:19 | |
| DaemonFC | I just read Matthew Garrett's response to the Lenovo thing in full. | Oct 02 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | "The number of people who buy these laptops to run anything but Windows is miniscule[...]" So why increase your support costs? | Oct 02 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm. Seems to me that about 2% would eventually install Linux (conservative estimate). If they sell for $1300-$1,500 apiece and people know not to buy them now, that means that for every 1,000 laptops that they would have sold, they now sell 20 fewer units, and those sales go to a competitor. | Oct 02 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | If they sell a million laptops, then they lose 20,000 sales to a competitor. | Oct 02 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | It might not sound like much, but it is. PC margins are thin because there are a lot of PC OEMs that make computers that are similar and "good enough". Chances are their profit margin is only 3-5%, maybe. | Oct 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | I hear that's the norm in PC sales, and that's for units with crapware, but I'm sure that Lenovo is either getting rebates for participating in Signature or just passed along the cost of not bundling the crapware to me. | Oct 02 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | Regardless, PC sales have been in decline for years. | Oct 02 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo suffered a 4.2% year over year decline in Q4 2015 vs Q4 2014. | Oct 02 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Do they really want to go back and say they declined more this quarter? Looks that way. | Oct 02 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | They could have released a BIOS patch for Linux users immediately, but they chose to give their customers the middle finger and ride this thing into the ground instead. | Oct 02 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure Dell or HP will appreciate the new customers. | Oct 02 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | I would have bought an HP Spectre or a Dell XPS had I known. | Oct 02 18:32 |
| MinceR | dHell doesn't appreciate customers, only their money | Oct 02 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They responded by re-enabling the AHCI option instead of lying to their customers. | Oct 02 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | That's better than what Lenovo did. | Oct 02 18:34 |
| cubexyz | it is | Oct 02 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like every time I buy a computer, an OEM has done something to fuck up Linux. | Oct 02 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Usually something stupid. Usually something I've never seen them do before. | Oct 02 18:35 |
| MinceR | they responded to me by claiming the keyboard is not under warranty, and by claiming they have no idea when they'll have replacement parts | Oct 02 18:35 |
| MinceR | also by replacing the faulty GPU with another faulty GPU | Oct 02 18:35 |
| MinceR | so fuck dHell | Oct 02 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | So a pattern emerges. And if you approach it as an isolated incident, people say "It was just an innocent mistake.". | Oct 02 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | But if they all do it nearly every time they release something, I believe there are....other resons. | Oct 02 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Shame on Matthew Garrett for excusing this. He's made more blog posts than I can count on how OEMs try to detect Linux and then hand it a shitty configuration. | Oct 02 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | He even admitted in one of them that they detect Linux by which version of ACPI it says it supports and then hand it off to the kernel without setting up the audio chipset or telling it there are the wrong number of function keys. | Oct 02 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | So he had to patch it to say the same thing Windows returns (2 instead of 5) so that the firmware wouldn't fuck up the configuration before handing off to Linux. | Oct 02 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | He doesn't see a problem with that? | Oct 02 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | Or if he does he blames the vendor. | Oct 02 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/34542.html | Oct 02 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Vendors continue to break things | Oct 02 18:40 | |
| DaemonFC | There's the post if anyone is interested. | Oct 02 18:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782701649684856832 | Oct 02 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with | Oct 02 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Various Improvements https://t.co/3jpeQ7mFiu | Oct 02 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 18:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with Various Improvements | Tux Machines | Oct 02 18:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships...' | Oct 02 18:52 | |
| cubexyz | it's all horse-bleep | Oct 02 19:10 |
| cubexyz | there's secret stuff in the firmware and you can dance around that all day but in the end you don't know what's going on | Oct 02 19:11 |
| cubexyz | and the newer hardware is much harder to understand than the older stuff | Oct 02 19:12 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/intel-me-secrets.pdf | Oct 02 19:16 |
| cubexyz | intel's running ThreadX in there | Oct 02 19:23 |
| cubexyz | it can lock out memory from the host CPU | Oct 02 19:25 |
| cubexyz | maybe I can visually inspect the board and know if it's got vpro or not | Oct 02 19:30 |
| cubexyz | if it's baked into the CPU (which I suspect it is) then I need a list of CPUs to avoid | Oct 02 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Wikipedia says it's in the motherboard, but I suspect that it will be in the CPU eventually if it isn't already. | Oct 02 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | They've been moving things away from the motherboard and into the CPU. Including the integrated graphics. It's why motherboards are so cheap now. | Oct 02 19:34 |
| cubexyz | Intel® DH82B85 PCH, no vPro but still has ME | Oct 02 19:36 |
| cubexyz | and they are already up to ME 9.0 | Oct 02 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware. | Oct 02 19:39 |
| cubexyz | there's something called the MEBx | Oct 02 19:39 |
| cubexyz | the Management Engine BIOS eXtension | Oct 02 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | Some Intel CPUs seem to be designed to lock up mysteriously after half an hour if the Management Engine isn't working for some reason. | Oct 02 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to make sure the firmware loads or your PC freezes up. | Oct 02 19:40 |
| MinceR | what do chromebooks do about this? | Oct 02 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | Probably load the ME, MinceR | Oct 02 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | But some Chromebooks are ditching Intel. | Oct 02 19:41 |
| MinceR | afaik they don't load it | Oct 02 19:42 |
| cubexyz | you can build your own custom BIOS on chromebooks | Oct 02 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | The Acers seem to be going with ARM now. | Oct 02 19:42 |
| MinceR | 03 013929 < DaemonFC> cubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware. | Oct 02 19:42 |
| MinceR | the whole point of "intel boot guard" was to lock alternative firmware (like coreboot and libreboot) out of the market | Oct 02 19:42 |
| MinceR | it was a very microsoftian move | Oct 02 19:42 |
| cubexyz | you can hack on the chromebooks, so I'm not worried about those | Oct 02 19:42 |
| cubexyz | I have all that code | Oct 02 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Eventually it will detect BIOS mods that you flashed in with an external flasher and refuse to boot. | Oct 02 19:43 |
| cubexyz | if there's anything nasty in there I'll know about it | Oct 02 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think they're there yet because replacement BIOSes seem to work on the Yoga 900 ISK2 with Skylake. | Oct 02 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | But it won't let you flash it in without aa flasher unless there's a signature from Insyde or Lenovo on the ROM. | Oct 02 19:44 |
| cubexyz | X200 with libreboot is pretty safe | Oct 02 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't seem to use checksum verification because the modded ROM that the guy on Lenovo Forums used wouldn't have matched the ROM that he pulled. | Oct 02 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing the people on the bios-mods forum seem to have done is remove code hiding some BIOS menus that are present but hidden by Lenovo. | Oct 02 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | "bownairo" said he'd be looking into a way to fool the system into letting you flash without an external flasher. | Oct 02 19:46 |
| MinceR | it seems to me that if IT is to survive at all, the free software/hardware community will have to take the whole stack in our own hands | Oct 02 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | If that happens, users can fix their system themselves without a patch from Lenovo. | Oct 02 19:46 |
| MinceR | we'll have to figure out how to make cpus and computers from scratch | Oct 02 19:46 |
| cubexyz | well, the ultimate hack would be your own FPGA | Oct 02 19:46 |
| MinceR | intel and all the others will only try to shit on everything we do | Oct 02 19:46 |
| MinceR | we'll also need free fpga tools | Oct 02 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Richard Stallman's solution is probably the easiest. | Oct 02 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | Buy a laptop from China that uses an ARM platform and was made to run Linux. | Oct 02 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | If there was some way to set up a reliable supply chain for those, I'm sure that someone could have a somewhat profitable business selling them to people who want to get away from the Wintel PC and all of the horrible things it does to Linux, totally by accident of course. :P | Oct 02 19:48 |
| MinceR | ARM isn't very friendly either, afaik | Oct 02 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Depends on who is making them. | Oct 02 19:49 |
| MinceR | for every SoC you have to figure out how you can initialize the hw, how you can boot your code, etc. | Oct 02 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's just an ISA that you can license. | Oct 02 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone who can come up with the licensing money can make ARM CPUs. | Oct 02 19:49 |
| MinceR | and for most SoC makers/designers we are such a tiny part of the market that they just don't care about us at all | Oct 02 19:49 |
| MinceR | see how far CubieBoard got with their stuff | Oct 02 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Intel's mobile platforms are essentially SoC now. | Oct 02 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | They have the controllers for damned near everything in the CPU package. | Oct 02 19:50 |
| cubexyz | well IBM Thinkpad 700 is 1992.. I figure that's old enough :) | Oct 02 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | That's why it's so hard to get power management right. You used to be able to do power management by component. If you got most of it down, the rest didn't really matter that much. | Oct 02 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | Putting the SATA controller in low poer mode maybe saved you half a watt. | Oct 02 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | Now if you can't get that right, the whole system breaks down and you're idling at twice the power consumption you should be at. | Oct 02 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | *power | Oct 02 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | And if you figure that out, there's half a dozen things that you also need to figure out or you're back in the same boat. | Oct 02 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | So I don't expect that Linux will ever have the power management Windows does for Skylake. | Oct 02 19:53 |
| MinceR | that depends on whether m$'s final gambits succeed or not | Oct 02 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | It'll improve, like it has been, but it will reach a point where all of the easier things have been done and people lose interest. | Oct 02 19:53 |
| MinceR | if they succeed, it's possible that it won't even be legal to run anything but the one government-approved thin client OS anymore | Oct 02 19:53 |
| MinceR | if they fail, they'll go full patent troll and there won't be a "windows" anymore | Oct 02 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | What really pisses me off to no end is that MS has released probably thousands of patches to individual components of Windows 10 by now, and saying each time that it makes Windows more reliable. | Oct 02 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | So why am I still hitting most of the same bugs that were in the first release? | Oct 02 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | People know that and they know that even if the update installs and their machine comes back up that it won't be more reliable. | Oct 02 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | So they've taken to disabling the Windows Update service so they don't have a bad update that screws up their data. | Oct 02 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | That's not good either. | Oct 02 19:55 |
| cubexyz | you can disable AMT control on some intel motherboards | Oct 02 19:59 |
| cubexyz | now who knows if it can be reactivated | Oct 02 19:59 |
| cubexyz | but if you compile your own coreboot BIOS on a chrome-whatever, I feel that is your best bet | Oct 02 20:00 |
| cubexyz | or (not ideal) you could just run one old machine | Oct 02 20:01 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with Various...' | Oct 02 20:11 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHCHEykUxP4 | Oct 02 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spooky Coincidences? - YouTube | Oct 02 20:14 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: I suspect where this video is going and I like to see that message covered. | Oct 02 20:18 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55fxyk/lenovo_forums_seems_to_have_possibly_banned_all/ | Oct 02 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Forums seems to have (possibly?) banned all Comcast users in the state of Illinois in order to try to silence the discussion of Linux on Yoga problems. : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/ptzd9 ] | Oct 02 20:19 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]fringewanderer 1 point an hour ago | Oct 02 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | When you say "no Linux support", do you mean providing and supporting drivers for user Linux installations? If so which hardware components? | Oct 02 20:19 |
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| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 19 minutes ago | Oct 02 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | They wrote BIOS code to hide and write protect the fake "RAID" mode that these damned things ship with in order to fool Windows into loading a different driver with a better power management policy. | Oct 02 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | So now you can't install Linux to the SSD, all because they removed the compatible AHCI mode from the BIOS. | Oct 02 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Probably the most realistic solution, if anyone ever implements it, will be to have the Linux kernel reset the hardware and put it in AHCI mode on every boot. Then we won't need help from Lenovo or a driver for something that gains us...literally nothing even if someone does write one. :P | Oct 02 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Either way, Lenovo's response is that they broke it, they don't care, and just run Windows 10 and shut up. So don't expect a BIOS patch from them, ever. | Oct 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Dell and some other OEMs shipped like this but them offered a BIOS patch for their customers. Lenovo just doesn't care. | Oct 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Buy a computer from another company, and make sure they haven't done anything like this first. | Oct 02 20:20 |
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| DaemonFC | [–]fringewanderer 1 point 5 minutes ago | Oct 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | What would be the best-case scenario for current laptop owners? New firmware release that fixes AHCI mode? | Oct 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Based on what I'm hearing here I guess I'd sum it up as being a cocktail of issues starting with the "bandaid" BIOS fix, then adding passive and poor customer support and topping it all off with forum admins/mods being in the awkward and unempowered position of having no good channels to CS/dev units while also having free reign to handle their own forum situation any way they want. | Oct 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Oct 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point a minute ago | Oct 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Best case: Linux works around the limitation by resetting the hardware as soon as GRUB loads the kernel (GRUB uses the uEFI disk access so it doesn't need to be patched), and then does so every time the machine is rebooted. | Oct 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo won't fix it. Intel won't release specs on how to handle the RAID mode that Lenovo locked it into. That means it's up to the kernel developers to add a quirk to deal with this case. That hasn't been done yet and I'm not sure it ever will unless a Linux developer actually buys such a laptop and is personally inconvenienced, or fixes it for some other reason. Even then, we know we can't trust Lenovo to not break something else, and we | Oct 02 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | know that they don't care if they do. So buy from a different company. | Oct 02 20:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yep, it's exactly about what I thought it would be about. | Oct 02 20:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 20:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I wonder if it should be banned by the "believers feelings protection law" %) | Oct 02 20:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 02 20:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Pity I can't use that video for people who'd need to see it. | Oct 02 20:27 |
| MinceR | why? | Oct 02 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's in English. | Oct 02 20:27 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 02 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | Though it has subs but that's not good enough. | Oct 02 20:28 |
| MinceR | brendyn: looks like uBlock Origin successfully blocks the offending ads on noscript.net | Oct 02 20:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144 | Oct 02 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/ | Oct 02 20:40 | |
| schestowitz | "I don’t like HP now what they did with their printers. Uuuugh. I do have an HP printer though." | Oct 02 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ptv4v ] | Oct 02 20:40 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah it’s a nice thing HP did with that printer firmware to say f*** off to custom cartridges…" | Oct 02 20:40 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't really value printing in color, but my printer demands a color cartridge before it will print anything at all. | Oct 02 20:42 |
| MinceR | reason for a separate grayscale printer :> | Oct 02 20:43 |
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| MinceR | (perhaps) | Oct 02 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Green party copied me https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/782660240164712449 | Oct 02 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrJillStein: Polls show a majority of voters backing Clinton and Trump are motivated by fear, not by support for their candidate… https://t.co/eSBp9cNVG9 | Oct 02 20:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrJillStein: Polls show a majority of voters backing Clinton and Trump are motivated by fear, not by support for their candidate… https://t.co/eSBp9cNVG9 | Oct 02 20:51 | |
| schestowitz | after I said the same thing and many people RTd me | Oct 02 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782734725953818624 | Oct 02 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/AWZcX14xhR | Oct 02 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 20:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 20:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/AWZcX14xhR' | Oct 02 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782745508855046144 | Oct 02 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung starts distributing Samsung Z2 in Indonesia. More | Oct 02 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | apps to the Tizen store https://t.co/cIY1gsC2IO | Oct 02 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 02 21:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung starts distributing Samsung Z2 in Indonesia. More apps to the Tizen store - Tizen Experts | Oct 02 21:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782746584094302208 | Oct 02 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sony's new phone is Android's answer to the iPhone SE | Oct 02 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0R4Q3EME2W (uk.businessinsider.com) | Oct 02 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 21:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Sony Xperia X Compact review: Android's answer to the iPhone SE - Business Insider | Oct 02 21:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782747408740614144 | Oct 02 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Phone For Gamers https://t.co/yfPtHJZiEE | Oct 02 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 02 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Phone For Gamers | Android Central | Oct 02 21:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/782754347411206145 | Oct 02 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: Compare this with the brouhaha over pretty dubious Zika claims prior to the Rio Games. US #MSM make Pravda and Tass… https://t.co/LMrTOUQdBh | Oct 02 21:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: Compare this with the brouhaha over pretty dubious Zika claims prior to the Rio Games. US #MSM make Pravda and Tass… https://t.co/LMrTOUQdBh | Oct 02 21:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782747633085480961 | Oct 02 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mysterious Nokia D1C Android smartphone spotted on | Oct 02 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Geekbench https://t.co/8NlJQY1CHz (www.gsmarena.com) | Oct 02 21:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mysterious Nokia D1C Android smartphone spotted on Geekbench - GSMArena.com news | Oct 02 21:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782751536925511680 | Oct 02 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | T-Mobile G1 revisited: Welcoming Android to the world | Oct 02 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QMiTcLrnVB (www.technobuffalo.com) | Oct 02 21:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | T-Mobile G1 revisited: Welcoming Android to the world | Oct 02 21:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782756211955474432 | Oct 02 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships | Oct 02 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 https://t.co/78CizGgBVI | Oct 02 21:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 | Oct 02 21:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782756387491311616 | Oct 02 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with | Oct 02 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Various Improvements https://t.co/ZGzSCGDXNA | Oct 02 21:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with Various Improvements | Oct 02 21:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 Kernel | Oct 02 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2JvgOZ06bj (www.phoronix.com) Linux 4.8 | Oct 02 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Released https://t.co/rNbYm7FAoA | Oct 02 21:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 02 21:50 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.8 Kernel Released - Phoronix | Oct 02 21:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Officially Released, Merge Window for Kernel 4.9 Now Open | Oct 02 21:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782758631804702721 | Oct 02 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4MRecover 20.0 Data Recovery Live CD Is Now in Beta, | Oct 02 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Includes TestDisk 7.0 https://t.co/hjXgFDk5wI | Oct 02 21:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | 4MRecover 20.0 Data Recovery Live CD Is Now in Beta, Includes TestDisk 7.0 | Oct 02 21:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782759033065369600 | Oct 02 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 Reached End of Life, Upgrade to | Oct 02 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 Now https://t.co/7aOQ1t0o6i | Oct 02 21:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 Now | Oct 02 21:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Lennart’s Look At Systemd This Year, What’s Going To | Oct 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Happen In 2017 https://t.co/jYcowotBbj (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 02 21:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lennart's Look At Systemd This Year, What's Going To Happen In 2017 - Phoronix | Oct 02 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782760801560035329 | Oct 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | DebEX KDE Live DVD Updated with KDE 4.14.2 and Plasma 5, | Oct 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 RC8 | Oct 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iYUbBTh6yX (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | DebEX KDE Live DVD Updated with KDE 4.14.2 and Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.8 RC8 | Oct 02 21:56 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/brexit-who-has-power-to-change-uk-law.html?showComment=1475409336323#c7540450669000843274 | Oct 02 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Brexit - who has the power to change UK law? [ http://ur1.ca/ptzvb ] | Oct 02 22:10 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | The ECA '72 (passed - obviously - before the '75 referendum and after promises were made that the UK could always veto anything it didn't like - promised by Heath, delivered by Wilson) has within it the seeds of is own destruction. If article 50 is activated then after the two year period there are no obligations "... created or arising under the Treaties ...". Hence no need to repeal the ECA '72 ... in the right circumstances. The question | Oct 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | is, what are they? | Oct 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | One line of argument might be that it follows from the above that it is not a matter for parliament to legislate or repeal. The real question might then be whether article 50 is something which can be activated by the government or by the government with the fiat of parliament. It is that uncertainty which will occupy the thinking of the court in the upcoming case. For that reason, whatever the result, it will be helpful. | Oct 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Ashley | Oct 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782513731918004224 | Oct 02 22:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @hintjensyour your flickr/yahoo login has been p0wned :-) | Oct 02 22:16 | |
| DaemonFC | Hmm. Apparently, Tox split off to uTox. The lead developer was embezzling donation money. | Oct 02 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | At least it's open source, so that they can do that. | Oct 02 22:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782762741182369792 | Oct 02 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi: How To Build A Digital Dashboard For An | Oct 02 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Older Car [Video] https://t.co/mqu6wOeaWJ | Oct 02 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.techtimes.com) | Oct 02 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 22:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Raspberry Pi: How To Build A Digital Dashboard For An Older Car [Video] : TECH : Tech Times | Oct 02 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775831189827584 | Oct 02 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that Tixati will eventually bundle spyware or adware or drive by downloads. If it's for Windows and it's proprietary freeware, it's only a matter of time. | Oct 02 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Derivatives https://t.co/kePpWAEvOG | Oct 02 22:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Derivatives | Tux Machines | Oct 02 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775832485826560 | Oct 02 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Steam Gains https://t.co/NVznjISpEh | Oct 02 22:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Steam Gains | Tux Machines | Oct 02 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775833647656960 | Oct 02 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Newly-liberated software https://t.co/1T4LWWQDjC | Oct 02 22:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Newly-liberated software | Tux Machines | Oct 02 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775834759180288 | Oct 02 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/V2Scdvy8y4 | Oct 02 22:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 02 22:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.html | Oct 02 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkerer | Oct 02 23:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://fabiensanglard.net/doom3/interviews.php | Oct 03 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fabiensanglard.net | Doom3 Source Code Review: Interviews | Oct 03 00:24 | |
| DaemonFC | Fabien Sanglard - The rendering system is now broken down in a frontend/backend: It reminds me of the design of a compiler which usually has a frontend->IR->backend pipeline. What this inspired by the design of LCC which was used for Quake3 bytecode generation ? I wonder what are the advantages over a monolithic renderer like Doom, idTech1 and idTech2. | Oct 03 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | John Carmack - This was explicitly to support dual processor systems. It worked well on my dev system, but it never seemed stable enough in broad use, so we backed off from it. Interestingly, we only just found out last year why it was problematic (the same thing applied to Rage’s r_useSMP option, which we had to disable on the PC) – on windows, OpenGL can only safely draw to a window that was created by the same thread. We created | Oct 03 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | the window on the launch thread, but then did all the rendering on a separate render thread. It would be nice if doing this just failed with a clear error, but instead it works on some systems and randomly fails on others for no apparent reason. | Oct 03 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | The Doom 4 codebase now jumps through hoops to create the game window from the render thread and pump messages on it, but the better solution, which I have implemented in another project under development, is to leave the rendering on the launch thread, and run the game logic in the spawned thread. | Oct 03 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775835832889344 | Oct 03 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/Wqjy2OkxT2 | Oct 03 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 03 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 03 00:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 03 00:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'GNU/Linux Steam Gains https://t.co/NVznjISpEh' | Oct 03 00:37 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://www.alexstjohn.com/WP/2016/10/02/doom-for-windows/ | Oct 03 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexstjohn.com | Doom for Windows - The SaintThe Saint | Oct 03 00:54 | |
| DaemonFC | The creator of DirectX isn't pleased with Windows Update. | Oct 03 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | It ruined a business meeting and he ended up having to use his customer's Macbook because Windows Update made his computer useless for the whole meeting. | Oct 03 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I remember Windows 98...There was no automatic update. YOu had to go to Microsoft's website and have Internet Explorer install the updates. | Oct 03 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.alexstjohn.com/WP/2015/07/27/windows-update-sorry-my-bad/ | Oct 03 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexstjohn.com | Windows Update... sorry my bad... - The SaintThe Saint | Oct 03 01:05 | |
| DaemonFC | "Windows update was born from a technology tragedy that occurred in 1994 that I like to call “The Disney Lion King Disaster” of which I was a central participant." | Oct 03 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | I remember that. | Oct 03 01:05 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Alex St. John: "Windows is obsolete." | Oct 03 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | "So here’s what’s coming. One day soon, Microsoft will accidentally blow up millions of machines in a way they can’t recover from. The evidence is that they have completely lost control of the OS and their ability to maintain it. A massive scale forced update with the obvious flaws we just experienced has only two obvious explanations." | Oct 03 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 03 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 03 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | Alex St. John (Creator of the DirectX API for Windows): | Oct 03 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | "Windows is obsolete" and one day soon, Microsoft will screw up and send out a forced update to Windows 10 that screws up millions of computers in a way that they can't recover from. | Oct 03 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | I believe it. The stories of broken updates are flooding into the PC news sites every time MS releases one. If you haven't been hit with one yet, you're lucky. | Oct 03 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | He continues, | Oct 03 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | I used to enjoy writing funny articles about how inept Microsoft was being with consumer stuff but this is a dangerous situation that has already spiraled out of control. Oh yes, I nearly forgot to tie this together… here’s the text my son had sent me before I walked in to do that presentation; | Oct 03 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | “Don’t turn on your computer, you’ll get a forced Windows 10 Update that will screw up your machine. It kept rebooting and updating my machine in class, it took me hours to fix! There’s alerts all over the Internet about it!” | Oct 03 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Yeah, the Chromebook Pixel might have been a better choice. | Oct 03 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | They don'tt come with huge amounts of RAM, but it's Linux so you really don't need it. | Oct 03 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Windows has always been pretty wasteful with RAM. We're getting to the point now where 16 GB is the "sweet spot" for Windows 10. | Oct 03 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | And you don't even want to consider less than 8. | Oct 03 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Around 2002, I was using the "Configure your own Mac Pro." thing on Apple's website and drooling that if I only spent $25,000 I could have a computer with 16 GB of RAM. :) | Oct 03 01:42 |
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| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/news/no-free-upgrades-no-new-users-windows-10-declines-for-first-time-since-launch-508853.shtml | Oct 03 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | No Free Upgrades, No New Users: Windows 10 Declines for First Time Since Launch | Oct 03 02:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/782825879747559424 | Oct 03 02:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 Kernel | Oct 03 02:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @lordbaco https://t.co/2JvgOZ06bj (www.phoronix.com) Linux 4.8 | Oct 03 02:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Released https://t.co/rNbYm7FAoA | Oct 03 02:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 03 02:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/bF6Uw46LvG | Oct 03 02:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.8 Kernel Released - Phoronix | Oct 03 02:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Officially Released, Merge Window for Kernel 4.9 Now Open | Oct 03 02:43 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: " | Oct 03 03:07 |
| schestowitz | Windows failed to make the leap to new business models and new distributed computing paradigms such that now in the year 2016 Microsoft is on the cutting edge of adopting Apple’s 2007 business model for Windows 10. Here’s why Microsoft has reached the end of its road. They lost the mobile market, they lost search, they’re struggling to compete in the cloud and all they have left is a legacy OS with an architecture from the days of | Oct 03 03:07 |
| schestowitz | personal computing when connectivity was something only nerds and IT managers worried about. Now the idea of personal computer security is collapsing. It is readily becoming apparent that NOTHING can stop malicious attackers from eventually penetrating the best most advanced security measures of any personal device. Furthermore, as the Edward Snowden scandal has made plain to us all, if malicious attackers aren’t breaking into our | Oct 03 03:07 |
| schestowitz | computers, then the worlds governments are requiring companies to make their products vulnerable to intrusion. The idea that a lowly personal computer behind a frail consumer router… made in China… stands any chance of resisting serious hacking attempts is a fast fading dream. | Oct 03 03:07 |
| schestowitz | Back when I was making online game publishing DRM (Digital Rights Management) Solutions we measured the time it took Chinese and Russian hackers to crack our best latest security attempts in weeks. Today it can take a matter of days or hours. | Oct 03 03:07 |
| schestowitz | The Windows Operating system has become vast, bloated and cumbersome to maintain. It faces constant security bombardment by the entire worlds connected hacker community and government security agencies. The volume of patches it needs to maintain even the most rudimentary pretext of stability and security requires a constant and overwhelming flood of Windows updates. The seriousness of the situation and the sheer flood of data Microsoft | Oct 03 03:07 |
| schestowitz | is constantly sending to our computers is staggering. I wanted to show a screen shot of my HUGE Windows Update history but mysteriously, after this most recent disastrous update… Microsoft has seen fit to clear my machine of that information… | Oct 03 03:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 03 03:07 |
| schestowitz | I like it... | Oct 03 03:07 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That about sums up my experience. | Oct 03 03:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, Vista 10, some say, will finish them | Oct 03 03:12 |
| schestowitz | but Lenovo ensures you can't go elsewhere | Oct 03 03:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe that's the next 'best thing' | Oct 03 03:13 |
| schestowitz | Next to 'free' upgrades | Oct 03 03:13 |
| schestowitz | and UEFI | Oct 03 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | Every time you're doing something, another 600 MB-4GB update comes along and wants to monopolize your internet connection, then tie up your computer, and then restart. | Oct 03 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's verry aggravating. | Oct 03 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | And that's *if* it installs and *if* it restarts. | Oct 03 03:13 |
| schestowitz | ha | Oct 03 03:14 |
| schestowitz | the botney | Oct 03 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah. They resort to these pathetic obstacles so you can't leave Windows no matter what it does. | Oct 03 03:14 |
| schestowitz | WU | Oct 03 03:14 |
| schestowitz | (botnet | Oct 03 03:14 |
| schestowitz | microsoft is trying to limit choice, says it “loves Linux”, Lies. | Oct 03 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, first thing I disabled. The "p2p" updates. | Oct 03 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | Hijack your internet connection and make you pay Microsoft's bandwidth bills to get you to upgrade other people's computers. | Oct 03 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah, some people were defending Microsoft because Windows has Bash now, and that's basically all you need Linux for really. :P | Oct 03 03:16 |
| schestowitz | Colombia’s rejection of a peace deal with Farc rebels to end 52 years of war does not mean an automatic return to hostilities, but it makes the possibility of peace, which had looked close enough to touch, once again a faraway prospect. | Oct 03 03:19 |
| schestowitz | All the pieces were in place to begin implementation of a deal that was four years in the making after talks between government and Farc negotiators in Havana. The Farc had ratified the accord at a national conference, President Juan Manuel Santos and Farc leader Timochenko had signed it in a public ceremony and UN monitors were ready to oversee the bringing together and disarmament of the Farc’s 5,800 fighters. The Nobel committee was | Oct 03 03:19 |
| schestowitz | reportedly considering a peace prize for Colombia. | Oct 03 03:19 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/03/colombias-peace-further-away-is-further-away-but-it-may-still | Oct 03 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Colombia’s Brexit moment as politicians misjudge popular anger at Farc amnesty | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pu146 ] | Oct 03 03:19 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-colombia-peace-idUSKCN1230BH?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews | Oct 03 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Colombia's Santos, FARC scramble to revive peace after shock vote | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/pu149 ] | Oct 03 03:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Legends of Linux Part 1: Linus Torvalds | Oct 03 03:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 1: Linus Torvalds | TheINQUIRER | Oct 03 03:52 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Hopefully a fix for this RAID mode crap on my laptop can be done for Linux 4.9. | Oct 03 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | Not counting on it though. | Oct 03 03:57 |
| schestowitz | maybe | Oct 03 04:02 |
| schestowitz | but it should already work | Oct 03 04:02 |
| schestowitz | Lenovo doesn't want it to | Oct 03 04:02 |
| schestowitz | keep chasing them | Oct 03 04:02 |
| schestowitz | they must be going nuts over you | Oct 03 04:03 |
| schestowitz | having special meetings on how to deal with you | Oct 03 04:03 |
| schestowitz | you cost them many millions | Oct 03 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | https://gcoupe.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/the-lenovo-yoga-900-software/ | Oct 03 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcoupe.wordpress.com | The Lenovo Yoga 900 – Software | Geoff Coupe's Blog | Oct 03 04:04 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, According to Lenovo, if you use Windows Anytime Upgrade to get Windows 10 Pro, then they won't support it. | Oct 03 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Users reporting that the Onekey recovery (used if you can't boot into Windows) isn't working for them. | Oct 03 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | So not only can you not install Linux or Windows from Microsoft's ISO, the recovery feature may not work and now you have a brick. | Oct 03 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I made a special installer in case that happens to me, but it wasn't easy, | Oct 03 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Newegg made a reply to it. | Oct 03 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | They admitted that you couldn't install Linux on the models I pointed out and pointed out 10 Lenovo laptops that they sell which you can install Linux on. | Oct 03 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | How arbitrary... | Oct 03 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | Oh gee, see this company has shit support for Linux and shit support in general, so here's some laptops where you can shoehorn Linux in from this company that you don't want to do business with anyway. | Oct 03 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, As for Alex St. John's comment that MS is adopting Apple's business model from 10 years ago, that does seem to be the case. | Oct 03 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | It'll always be called "Windows 10", they just foist upgrades on you whether you want them or not. | Oct 03 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | I agree that it could conceivably make the OS more stable, coherent, secure, etc. if it was from anyone but Microsoft. | Oct 03 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | In reality it just gives you a mess to deal with once or twice a month. | Oct 03 04:10 |
| schestowitz | I don't see a connection to Apple | Oct 03 04:29 |
| schestowitz | in his mind, maybe it's still just "Mac vs PC" | Oct 03 04:29 |
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| DaemonFC | Polycrastinator Alpha Member #165 - 1 day ago | Oct 03 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. Without the option to effectively opt out of these things until they're fixed, staying on Windows 7 - or moving to another platform, eventually - is starting to look like a wiser and wiser choice. Businesses can't afford the down time from failed updates, and with Windows 10 that down time | Oct 03 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | is starting to feel like an inevitability. | Oct 03 05:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.7 https://t.co/gSPSMV9zvf | Oct 03 06:16 |
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| schestowitz | [10:47] <DaemonFC> Microsoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. | Oct 03 06:24 |
| schestowitz | But remember | Oct 03 06:24 |
| schestowitz | they say they're not "cloud first" | Oct 03 06:24 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 03 06:24 |
| schestowitz | Windows can wait... | Oct 03 06:24 |
| schestowitz | The Clown comes first | Oct 03 06:24 |
| schestowitz | /s/not/now/ | Oct 03 06:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How startups can use open source software to compete | Oct 03 06:39 |
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| cubexyz | ok, windows being bad is nothing new | Oct 03 08:28 |
| cubexyz | I first thought windows 2.0 was bad in 1987 & 1988 | Oct 03 08:29 |
| cubexyz | the importance of FOSS didn't cross my mind at the time | Oct 03 08:29 |
| cubexyz | I just thought windows 2.0 was slow | Oct 03 08:29 |
| cubexyz | probably the idea that all programs should be FOSS didn't really hit me until my first BIOS contructions around 2010 | Oct 03 08:31 |
| cubexyz | and of course msdos was pretty clumsy in many ways... | Oct 03 08:38 |
| cubexyz | so can imagine the low opinion the Unix folks had of the 16-bit windows 2.0 | Oct 03 08:38 |
| MinceR | yet another desperate trick to force users to use bìng >> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TQ3hI3Z | Oct 03 08:40 |
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| cubexyz | you could live with a closed source BIOS in those days... not now | Oct 03 08:42 |
| cubexyz | once you start thinking about firmware the old Sun Ultra series doesn't look too bad | Oct 03 08:44 |
| cubexyz | I mean you actually can "svn co svn://openbios.org/openboot/" | Oct 03 08:45 |
| cubexyz | and you got all the source | Oct 03 08:45 |
| cubexyz | ok, it's in forth, but still... | Oct 03 08:48 |
| cubexyz | if you want the least control over your computer then windows 10 is perfect... closed source everything, and even a BIOS that is sometimes hostile to other OSes | Oct 03 08:53 |
| cubexyz | that's actually much worse than the situation in 1987 | Oct 03 08:54 |
| cubexyz | of course because of chromebooks the situation isn't absolutely worse... only in some ways | Oct 03 08:57 |
| sag3 | the future looks bright :) | Oct 03 09:00 |
| MinceR | the flashes of nuclear devices | Oct 03 09:01 |
| sag3 | meh, I'll be on my Vault-Tec vault with patented techonology specifically designed to keep me and my family safe | Oct 03 09:05 |
| sag3 | nothing can go wrong | Oct 03 09:05 |
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| cubexyz | you might want to ask John Titor about that :) | Oct 03 09:08 |
| MinceR | food will run out eventually | Oct 03 09:08 |
| sag3 | but cubexyz | Oct 03 09:11 |
| sag3 | *cue suspenseful music* | Oct 03 09:11 |
| sag3 | i AM John Titor | Oct 03 09:11 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aRd0O0I.png | Oct 03 09:13 |
| cubexyz | Y2K <--- "people will freeze to death" | Oct 03 09:14 |
| cubexyz | one of his more bogus predictions | Oct 03 09:14 |
| sag3 | the IBM one was interesting though | Oct 03 09:15 |
| sag3 | "Titor claimed that he was sent back to obtain an IBM 5100 because it could translate several types of computer code. According to IBM engineer Bob Dubke, Titor's statements regarding the IBM 5100's little-known ability to emulate and debug mainframe systems were correct." | Oct 03 09:15 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-install-error.png | Oct 03 09:19 |
| cubexyz | oops, what happened there :) | Oct 03 09:19 |
| cubexyz | something happened, but what? | Oct 03 09:20 |
| cubexyz | http://i.imgur.com/1EJvBg2.gif | Oct 03 09:21 |
| cubexyz | oh another claim... "wordwide nuclear war will kill 3 billion in 2015" | Oct 03 09:29 |
| cubexyz | "2008 olympics will be cancelled" | Oct 03 09:30 |
| cubexyz | and the IBM 5100 only had 64K ram | Oct 03 09:35 |
| cubexyz | it could run S/360 APL | Oct 03 09:36 |
| cubexyz | you can think of the IBM 5100 as a S/360 mainframe that could only run APL | Oct 03 09:36 |
| cubexyz | a big S/360 could address 8 megs of ram | Oct 03 09:38 |
| cubexyz | I did some research on a APL timeline: | Oct 03 09:39 |
| cubexyz | http://apl.maxhost.org/apl-timeline.txt | Oct 03 09:39 |
| cubexyz | so APL for the 5100 was derived from the S/360 version | Oct 03 09:40 |
| cubexyz | so the whole story is bogus | Oct 03 09:41 |
| cubexyz | I run OS/360-MVT sometimes... it's not even that interesting | Oct 03 09:44 |
| cubexyz | only interesting to techno-historians | Oct 03 09:45 |
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| dblaber | MinceR: don't like the sun :)? | Oct 03 11:24 |
| dblaber | i do think its incredibly stupid that people sit in the sun for hours just for trying to get tan | Oct 03 11:25 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 03 11:28 |
| MinceR | they unnecessarily make their skin degraded and increase the risk of cancer | Oct 03 11:28 |
| dblaber | however, i am not going to hide myself from the sun when I am doing something outdoors | Oct 03 11:28 |
| dblaber | and will use lotion if its going to be extended | Oct 03 11:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, i don't hide myself either, except for purposes of thermal regulation | Oct 03 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782917347589763072 | Oct 03 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Artificial Intelligence, The Search For The Perfect Slave | Oct 03 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XnHI3gborz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 03 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 03 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Artificial Intelligence, The Search For The Perfect Slave | Tux Machines | Oct 03 11:40 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/f480n1W.jpg | Oct 03 11:41 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: interesting about cancer | Oct 03 12:00 |
| schestowitz | how accurate is that though? | Oct 03 12:00 |
| MinceR | according to wikipedia, pretty close | Oct 03 12:04 |
| MinceR | there are mechanisms that can repair the DNA without killing the cell, but DNA damage always comes with the risk of cancer | Oct 03 12:05 |
| MinceR | and some of the time it does lead to apoptosis to avoid cancer | Oct 03 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782968423072555008 | Oct 03 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/yfZqzN4NAE | Oct 03 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 03 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 03 12:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 03 12:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782974136335425536 | Oct 03 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software For | Oct 03 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux https://t.co/0DhhlZkMxR (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Oct 03 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 03 12:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software For Linux - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 03 12:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782975883590111236 | Oct 03 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Earthlock: Festival of Magic' 3D RPG now has a Linux | Oct 03 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alpha available https://t.co/GN7Fu2YtuX | Oct 03 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 03 12:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782884777842053125 | Oct 03 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: Google/Alphabet Inc. is the next Microsoft. Google Play Store most probably includes spyware. https://t.co/1Z0q1dhoJE | Oct 03 12:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Remember #microsoft was behind this, remember #android is #linux based, ask yourself if "Microsoft loves Linux" https://t.co/ydQBzeXZg0 | Oct 03 12:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782895022463070208 | Oct 03 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz It's a good cop/bad cop model, the way I see it at least. There are government money behind Google just as behind Microsoft. | Oct 03 12:19 | |
| schestowitz | Government money isn't the worst among the criteria at stake | Oct 03 12:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782895630838620160 | Oct 03 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz While Google does huge service to free software they were together in PRISM. And there are Android apps for "rooting" a device. | Oct 03 12:20 | |
| schestowitz | PRISM started with Microsoft, then Skype after Microsoft took over | Oct 03 12:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782896413705433088 https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782897685120552960 https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782897685120552960 | Oct 03 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz First Androids were literary Java, but wecouldn't run Java apps, only special Android apps. Which is quite Microsoftish thing. | Oct 03 12:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz And Google is the reason proprietary Flash Player is not dead, but installed on billions of new devices today. | Oct 03 12:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782898278601986048 | Oct 03 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz Good cop is still a cop, but it can be really good for us if we keep a healthy distance. That's what I mean. | Oct 03 12:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/782969334964649985 | Oct 03 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz #CronyCapitalism the tax codes written by the elites for the elites & passed by career politicians-dump incumbents for change | Oct 03 12:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/joeytwiddle/status/782967795843600386 | Oct 03 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeytwiddle: Aim for: learn, play, create, teach Avoid: imagine, argue, agree, implement (the latter delivers junk) https://t.co/r6ZI7wTlDm | Oct 03 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Make it Open Source Not eventually. Not when it's working. Not if you get management approval." - @hintjens https://t.co/lkXmOUo4PB | Oct 03 12:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782971583531024384 https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782971789228015616 | Oct 03 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz very odd | Oct 03 12:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz the She-Devil would drink blood if she knew that would get votes | Oct 03 12:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782972143797698560 | Oct 03 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz @sankofadotorg it's all about getting money and promotion | Oct 03 12:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AliasHere/status/782973880046456834 | Oct 03 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AliasHere: .@schestowitz :-)) | Oct 03 12:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ctheius/status/782980073557073920 | Oct 03 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ctheius: @schestowitz @DrJillStein how? | Oct 03 12:28 | |
| schestowitz | Less blowback, as the CIA calls it (predicting retaliatory attacks) | Oct 03 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Less blowback, as the CIA calls it (predicting retaliatory attacks) | Oct 03 12:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782980620381147138 | Oct 03 12:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz @DrJillStein serious? It's about all the trillions of dollars that disappear and nobody knows where it went | Oct 03 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | She goes by the official figures, no black budget. I pointed this out to her last night. | Oct 03 12:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ctheius/status/782981240185954307 | Oct 03 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ctheius: @schestowitz @DrJillStein A weaker military makes you weaker, non-intervention is ok, crippling our means of staying isolationist is not. | Oct 03 12:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Become a Vampire hunter in 'Slayer Shock' now out in full | Oct 03 13:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Linux support https://t.co/Yjvj8SXo9l | Oct 03 13:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994734780252160 | Oct 03 13:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arduino on Arduino battle ends in reconciliation, merger | Oct 03 13:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino on Arduino battle ends in reconciliation, merger | Tux Machines | Oct 03 13:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994735866613761 | Oct 03 13:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/QoHP1yUKg0 | Oct 03 13:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994736961298432 | Oct 03 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dutch transparency advocates asking for open source, to | Oct 03 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | get open data https://t.co/KBvSiZF8ow | Oct 03 14:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dutch transparency advocates asking for open source, to get open data | Tux Machines | Oct 03 14:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/782997342718980096 | Oct 03 14:26 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: cheers | Oct 03 14:33 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 14:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/gRi6Y5BtYK | Oct 03 14:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Most Secure Android Phone | Android Central | Oct 03 14:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to | Oct 03 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/mCh0e8WAZ2 | Oct 03 14:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, security | Oct 03 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013692929634305 | Oct 03 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over | Oct 03 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ethernet Switches https://t.co/N8qdEI2UQE (insidehpc.com) | Oct 03 14:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013745479921664 | Oct 03 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to | Oct 03 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/2wOG6KXS3t | Oct 03 14:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, security | Tux Machines | Oct 03 14:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over | Oct 03 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ethernet Switches https://t.co/DtRGjiwlhe | Oct 03 14:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over Ethernet Switches | Tux Machines | Oct 03 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013747665178625 | Oct 03 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Oct 03 14:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Oct 03 15:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783015147338141696 | Oct 03 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap Apps | Oct 03 15:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap Apps - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 03 15:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More Drivers | Oct 03 15:15 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/783026218782355460 | Oct 03 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz voting for you Jill will help Donald Trump win. Thank you :-) | Oct 03 15:30 | |
| schestowitz | Ordering fish at a restaurant gives you beef. Or something... | Oct 03 15:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "In the months ahead the Linux kernel should start | Oct 03 15:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | receiving the work out of the "make-wifi-fast" | Oct 03 15:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | initiative" https://t.co/Kv8Srz2Qoo (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 03 15:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch era | Oct 03 15:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Mesos and #Kubernetes on a hybrid (IBM Power and x86) | Oct 03 15:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8 | Oct 03 16:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Systemd bug in the News https://t.co/y0pUz3zArK | Oct 03 16:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd bug in the News | Tux Machines | Oct 03 16:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031483258638336 | Oct 03 16:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9 Preview https://t.co/KJWaOGnrtI | Oct 03 16:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9 Preview | Tux Machines | Oct 03 16:07 | |
| MinceR | https://linux.ucla.edu/~eqy/molasses.html | Oct 03 16:16 |
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| MinceR | https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1901544/google-promotes-controversial-claim-its-not-possible-for-ethnic-minorities-to-be-racist-against-white-people/ | Oct 03 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Google promotes claim it's NOT possible for ethnic minorities to be racist against white people | Oct 03 16:28 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14563457_347374705611461_369513723668309429_n.png?oh=c5ae032410e0b8a6029129847b41d826&oe=5871EC28 | Oct 03 16:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I start to wonder more and more what exactly is a "white" person, and people of colour. | Oct 03 16:44 |
| MinceR | it's not discrete at all | Oct 03 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently it doesn't mean "Caucasian" because a lot of Caucasian people are being called coloured. | Oct 03 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | Like Mexicans | Oct 03 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | And it doesn't mean "Usonian" because I think I would have been called a white person while being far outside of US in a barely developed country. | Oct 03 16:47 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 03 16:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/vinnyoh89/status/783045439524212737 | Oct 03 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vinnyoh89: @coryxoxo @schestowitz never mind the fact that right to work states pay workers less and give less benefits | Oct 03 16:47 | |
| XRevan86 | it also doesn't mean being part of the developed world because I'm "white" and Japanese aren't | Oct 03 16:48 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europid | Oct 03 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasian race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 03 16:48 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: true | Oct 03 16:48 |
| schestowitz | the whole premise of the article is dumb | Oct 03 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But Mexicans are "coloured" | Oct 03 16:48 |
| MinceR | well, this crybully claim about "reverse" racism is stupid | Oct 03 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | while being Europioid | Oct 03 16:49 |
| MinceR | they just want to be bigots and have people accept it | Oct 03 16:49 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/YimX0m6 | Oct 03 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Word needs too revise its grammar - Imgur | Oct 03 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783035676740751361 | Oct 03 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 | Oct 03 17:03 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 https://t.co/c85fV9HGbM' | Oct 03 17:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049724345536512 | Oct 03 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/ZwM0B8Hj2i | Oct 03 17:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 | Techrights | Oct 03 17:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Oct 03 17:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049725465419776 | Oct 03 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/rVoNyHRZ0J | Oct 03 17:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 03 17:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049726706888704 | Oct 03 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/bAxYyGgBay | Oct 03 17:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Oct 03 17:04 | |
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| Stites | In the USA the Federal Appeals Court for the Federal Circuit has issued a ruling by a 3 judge panel throwing out a software patent. Two judges issued an opinion saying the software patent was invalid for the usual mundane reasons. The third judge, Judge Meyer, agreed with the other 2 judges and then added 2 more reasons. Judge Meyer's second reason is that no software is patentable ever. This is HUGE! Here is the text of Judge | Oct 03 17:20 |
| Stites | http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.html | Oct 03 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | First Amendment Finally Reaches Patent Law | Patently-O | Oct 03 17:20 | |
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| stites_ | You need to read this: http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.html | Oct 03 17:22 |
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| schestowitz | seen it | Oct 03 17:34 |
| schestowitz | covered this morning | Oct 03 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049727801602048 | Oct 03 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/EjWtd8GxsP | Oct 03 17:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 03 17:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049728850145280 | Oct 03 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/bQMwD6RQH0 | Oct 03 17:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 03 17:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063614571835393 | Oct 03 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | HackMIT meets Fedora https://t.co/A9CBX0EkTb | Oct 03 17:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063905878827008 | Oct 03 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A tiny PC as a router https://t.co/oDgLTQsNZU | Oct 03 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.liw.fi) | Oct 03 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.liw.fi | A tiny PC as a router | Oct 03 18:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783066548143583233 | Oct 03 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8 | Oct 03 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0DZINaEYrp (padovan.org) | Oct 03 18:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-padovan.org | Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8 – Gustavo Padovan | Oct 03 18:26 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/hpKWIi9.jpg | Oct 03 18:28 |
| schestowitz | bambi?! | Oct 03 18:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: methinks you have a kickass addiction | Oct 03 18:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 18:41 |
| MinceR | no, just found a dump on imgur | Oct 03 18:41 |
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| MinceR | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/stupid-design-patent-month-rectangles-screen | Oct 03 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Stupid Design Patent of the Month: Rectangles on a Screen | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 03 19:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | I decided to sign up with a per-mile car insurance plan. Little creepy, but the pricing is good. | Oct 03 19:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 03 21:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118646746808320 | Oct 03 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 | Oct 03 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SoCs https://t.co/rjeoQ7LYga (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 03 21:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 SoCs | Tux Machines | Oct 03 21:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source for Business: Pros and Cons | Oct 03 21:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source for Business: Pros and Cons | Tux Machines | Oct 03 21:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118648948826112 | Oct 03 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend | Oct 03 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Updated Components https://t.co/HCbaeIz67o | Oct 03 21:37 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What do you think about that? | Oct 03 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Plug in a device that records how much you drive and just pay for what you use. | Oct 03 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | There's a small base rate (like $17.62 a month for me) and then a per-mile fee depending on what insurance options you get (2.2 cents per mile for me). | Oct 03 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | If I'm correct, I should average $20 a month this way where I pay $60 now. | Oct 03 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | What I'm paying now is essentially a huge subsidy for other people who drive a lot. | Oct 03 22:06 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Oct 03 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : Lenovo | Oct 03 22:33 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Someone commented. | Oct 03 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | [–]195one 1 point 18 minutes ago | Oct 03 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | GLTY. I must surely hold the record. Lenovo has been performing warranty work on my device since APRIL 11, 2016. They still have it. | Oct 03 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | A Lenovo Forums moderator replied a few days ago and then deleted the message a few minutes later. | Oct 03 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Oct 03 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard a few others tell me this. So the moral of the story is "Don't buy the extended warranty because the one that came with the machine is already useless. Their repair center is actually a black hole.". | Oct 03 22:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118650119036928 | Oct 03 22:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Git 2.10 Version Control System Gets Its First Point | Oct 03 22:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release, Adds 94 Changes https://t.co/6yFIdC3OGs | Oct 03 22:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 03 22:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.10 Version Control System Gets Its First Point Release, Adds 94 Changes | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:38 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything. | Oct 03 22:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118651138281472 | Oct 03 22:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What’s new in PostgreSQL 9.5 https://t.co/nEX279EXoS | Oct 03 22:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s new in PostgreSQL 9.5 | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:39 | |
| DaemonFC | They even paid to ship it both ways. | Oct 03 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | I shuld hve bought the Spectre. | Oct 03 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | *should | Oct 03 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard people tell me they use Linux on their HP Spectre and are very pleased with it. | Oct 03 22:40 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Git 2.10 Version Control System Gets Its First...' | Oct 03 22:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend Brings Updated...' | Oct 03 22:46 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55odat/new_lenovo_windows_10_laptops_launch_in_india/ | Oct 03 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | New Lenovo Windows 10 laptops launch in India : Lenovo | Oct 03 22:46 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 03 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Since it has a HDD it will probably even run Linux. Probably. | Oct 03 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | I bought into the idea of a fast SSD because I do't like waiting on the computer to pull up data from the HDD, and while the SSD is crazy fast and I don't plan to ever use a HDD again, the way Lenovo configured this SSD is insane, and therefore, Linux won't run. | Oct 03 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently even Newegg Business tried to get out in front of my revelation by saying "Sure those Lenovo laptops won't run Linux, but here's 10 that do.". Like that makes everything better or something. It's like walking through a minefield. | Oct 03 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the Linux compatible Lenovo models either have a hard drive or are on AMD's platform. If they are Intel-based, they seem to be last year's models that we already knew run Linux. | Oct 03 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, a smorgasbord of cheap crap and yesterday's news. | Oct 03 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Don't trust Lenovo further than you can throw a Buick. | Oct 03 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | As for another problem with Lenovo, I've now talked to several people who sent theirs in for a warranty repair....to a black hole apparently....one told me that they sent it in back in June and Lenovo keeps making excuses for why it hasn't been sent back yet. I thought that was bad until someone else told me theirs has been with Lenovo since April. | Oct 03 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | In my experience, HP paid to ship my old Presario laptop both ways and fixed the touchpad, for free, three years after the warranty expired, and they even updated the BIOS while it was in there. Turnaround time was all of a week. | Oct 03 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | Now we know how Lenovo can have impossibly low prices. Aside from all thirty pieces of crapware that comes wth their non-Signature PCs, they get kickbacks for locking all of their Signature PCs so you can't run Linux on them per a Microsoft agreement, and then they cut customer service to the bone so you get people that can't troubleshoot simple problems and a repair center that is backed up for 8 months and/or might have actually lose your | Oct 03 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | laptop. | Oct 03 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/ | Oct 03 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : Lenovo | Oct 03 23:00 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 03 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Failure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold. | Oct 03 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | "Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo." | Oct 03 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | [...] | Oct 03 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Sorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason: | Oct 03 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2 | Oct 03 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Error:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program. | Oct 03 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55a516/is_your_lenovo_yoga_900_reliable/ | Oct 03 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is your Lenovo Yoga 900 reliable? : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/pu5mo ] | Oct 03 23:07 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 03 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | If you never want to install Linux or be able to reinstall Windows from MS if your pre-installed Windows is screwed up and Onekey recovery doesn't work... | Oct 03 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/ | Oct 03 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Oct 03 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | If you want to send your laptop in for repair and have them still make excuses when you don't have it 8 months later... | Oct 03 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Warning: Microsoft Signature PC program now requires that you can't run Linux. Lenovo's recent Ultrabooks among affected systems. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/prx4h ] | Oct 03 23:07 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Oct 03 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ] | Oct 03 23:07 | |
| DaemonFC | Then by all means, buy Lenovo. | Oct 03 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : Lenovo | Oct 03 23:07 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://en.yibada.com/articles/164482/20161003/lenovo-motorola-google-smartphone-mobile.htm | Oct 03 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.yibada.com | Lenovo shutting down; employee layoffs a precursor? : Tech : Yibada | Oct 03 23:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Speculation that Lenovo risks going under. | Oct 03 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Basically saying everything I did. | Oct 03 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | No new products. Shutting down and cannibalizing entire divisions. What happened to Motorola is essentially a write-off. | Oct 03 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like there is much to go on that leads towards Lenovo failing. | Oct 03 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Like other failing companies, they were desperate for cash to the point of letting Microsoft ensure their ruin in exchange for a short-term payoff. | Oct 03 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Linspire limped along for a little while from the money in the Microsoft agreement. Michael Robertson probably figured that he would shut the company down one day and keep it all for himself. Kevin Carmony, as CEO, dipped into it to pay their employees a severance package. Robertson sued trying to get it back and lost. | Oct 03 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Carmony seems like a decent guy in my opinion. | Oct 03 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | There was no saving Linspire as a company after Ubuntu got to the point where it was at. | Oct 03 23:37 |
| dblaber | is ubuntu still where it was in the past :)? | Oct 04 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/ | Oct 04 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Mozilla Foundation Security Advisories — Mozilla | Oct 04 00:38 | |
| DaemonFC | 18 security vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 49. Of those, 12 were applicable to Firefox 45 ESR and closed in 45.4. | Oct 04 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | NoScript *might* offer protection, but the author is peddling malware on his own website now. | Oct 04 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | That makes 103 security vulnerabilities closed in Firefox so far this year. | Oct 04 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, more, since some of them are actually multiple bugs put in the same advisory. | Oct 04 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | Such as "Miscellaneous memory safety hazards". | Oct 04 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Miscellaneous memory safety hazards (rv:48.0 / rv:45.3) actually contains 9 bugs in one advisory. | Oct 04 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Those actually hide 59 more bugs inside them | Oct 04 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | For a total of 162. | Oct 04 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | That puts them on track for 216 security vulnerabilities closed this year. | Oct 04 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | That's not as bad as Flash. Flash had 315 closed last year. | Oct 04 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | Basically, adding Flash very likely gives you more vulnerabilities than existed in the entire web browser before. | Oct 04 00:49 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 04 02:20 |
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| DaemonFC | https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/03/walmartlabs-open-sources-the-application-platform-that-powers-walmart-com/ | Oct 04 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WalmartLabs open sources the application platform that powers Walmart.com | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/pu73o ] | Oct 04 03:09 | |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Lenovo forums is down. | Oct 04 03:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783136058036793344 | Oct 04 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The October 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Oct 04 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FkUqtzxIbn (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 05:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The October 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Oct 04 05:52 | |
| schestowitz | [03:39] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything. | Oct 04 06:03 |
| schestowitz | My main laptop, an HP, is reliable | Oct 04 06:03 |
| schestowitz | never had to repair anything yet (since 2009) | Oct 04 06:04 |
| schestowitz | the chromebook is another matter, returned it to the shop | Oct 04 06:04 |
| schestowitz | (HP 14) | Oct 04 06:04 |
| schestowitz | HP Chromebook 14 or whatever they called it | Oct 04 06:04 |
| schestowitz | seems like others reported the same issued with it | Oct 04 06:04 |
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| schestowitz | [05:03] <dblaber> is ubuntu still where it was in the past :)? | Oct 04 06:12 |
| schestowitz | More server focus | Oct 04 06:12 |
| schestowitz | I guess the desktop has been used to promote the brand, among other things | Oct 04 06:13 |
| schestowitz | like packaging formats | Oct 04 06:13 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu is now used a lot where Debian used to be used | Oct 04 06:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pceebee23/status/783243263968849920 | Oct 04 06:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pceebee23: @AngusMacNeilSNP @schestowitz inevitable...now... little england lost in a myth of Empire | Oct 04 06:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/783245277851451393 | Oct 04 06:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz yes it is, and one clearly cannot patent speech. | Oct 04 06:17 | |
| schestowitz | There was a patent lawsuit over speech rec recently. High profile... | Oct 04 06:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783249738791587840 | Oct 04 06:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @hintjens I want my villa! | Oct 04 06:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783250641267351553 | Oct 04 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NixOS 16.09 "Flounder" Operating System Adds PXE Netboot | Oct 04 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support, systemd 231 https://t.co/bkB8QRgNHY | Oct 04 06:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | NixOS 16.09 "Flounder" Operating System Adds PXE Netboot Support, systemd 231 | Oct 04 06:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783250897711296512 | Oct 04 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.8 Officially Released for Those | Oct 04 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Who Want 100% Freedom https://t.co/fJPWMoMTi7 | Oct 04 06:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.8 Officially Released for Those Who Want 100% Freedom | Oct 04 06:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251220123222016 | Oct 04 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Midnight Commander 4.8.18 Adds Syntax Highlighting | Oct 04 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for CUDA and GLSL, Fixes https://t.co/0V90JzgTuP | Oct 04 06:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNU Midnight Commander 4.8.18 Adds Syntax Highlighting for CUDA and GLSL, Fixes | Oct 04 06:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Dueling Arduinos reunite with new Arduino Foundation | Oct 04 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2pFi4TAGS3 (hackerboards.com) | Oct 04 06:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Dueling Arduinos reunite with new Arduino Foundation | Oct 04 06:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251529985908736 | Oct 04 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $39 network switching Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on | Oct 04 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cortex-A53 https://t.co/jdgXvA6WYj (hackerboards.com) | Oct 04 06:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | $39 network switching Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on Cortex-A53 | Oct 04 06:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251927815557120 | Oct 04 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 3.12.64 LTS Updates the Networking Stack and | Oct 04 06:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fixes EXT4 Bugs https://t.co/0Pdf3tFcfc | Oct 04 06:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.64 LTS Updates the Networking Stack and Fixes EXT4 Bugs | Oct 04 06:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783252181415755776 | Oct 04 06:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SystemRescueCd 4.8.3 Released with | Oct 04 06:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5vV90nvkJZ (www.x.org) Server 1.18.4, Linux | Oct 04 06:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.4.23 LTS https://t.co/VdjHHBKdWP | Oct 04 06:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SystemRescueCd 4.8.3 Released with X.Org Server 1.18.4, Linux Kernel 4.4.23 LTS | Oct 04 06:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783252486962442240 | Oct 04 06:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 26 open source projects from Linux's 25 years | Oct 04 06:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-26 open source projects from Linux's 25 years | CIO | Oct 04 06:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783252662703820800 | Oct 04 06:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 | Oct 04 06:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SoCs https://t.co/BMoylH12nQ (hackerboards.com) | Oct 04 06:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 SoCs | Oct 04 06:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783253100140396544 | Oct 04 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend | Oct 04 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Updated Components https://t.co/78gNOedDTg | Oct 04 06:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend Brings Updated Components | Oct 04 06:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783253433751134208 | Oct 04 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Collabora Developers Have Contributed over 100 Patches to | Oct 04 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 https://t.co/BPbwjWBr06 | Oct 04 06:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Collabora Developers Have Contributed over 100 Patches to Linux Kernel 4.8 | Oct 04 06:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Keeping Linux containers safe and secure | Oct 04 06:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Interview with Andy Cathrow of Anchore | Opensource.com | Oct 04 06:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783255966615793664 | Oct 04 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Looks like Homefront: The Revolution might be gearing up | Oct 04 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for a Linux release now https://t.co/NW7kQw2hH0 | Oct 04 06:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Several donations boost reliability of Debian's core | Oct 04 06:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME From Scratch Project https://t.co/RvEyksG2cv | Oct 04 07:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-slackblogs.blogspot.com | SlackBlogs: GNOME From Scratch Project | Oct 04 07:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783263498096771072 | Oct 04 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Weather Forecast https://t.co/D3QWn54poY | Oct 04 07:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Weather Forecast | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Oct 04 07:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783264553614315520 | Oct 04 07:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right Firewall | Oct 04 07:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distribution https://t.co/F2oohCNI6b (www.datamation.com) | Oct 04 07:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building a Hardware Firewall: Pick the Best Distribution - Datamation | Oct 04 07:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783266800326811648 | Oct 04 07:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Scheduler Changes Published For The Linux 4.9 Kernel | Oct 04 07:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scheduler Changes Published For The Linux 4.9 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 04 07:26 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Scheduler Changes Published For The Linux 4.9 Kernel...' | Oct 04 08:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | BFS Updated For Linux 4.8, To Be Succeeded By New MuQSS | Oct 04 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Scheduler https://t.co/j9Yxn7UYi1 (www.phoronix.com) "Con | Oct 04 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kolivas...to premiere a new scheduler." | Oct 04 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BFS Updated For Linux 4.8, To Be Succeeded By New MuQSS Scheduler - Phoronix | Oct 04 08:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783267319887847424 | Oct 04 08:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OverlayFS SELinux Support For Linux 4.9 Kernel | Oct 04 08:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Everything you need to know about Android 7.1 Nougat and | Oct 04 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Pixel Launcher https://t.co/Q3wU1QqoYx | Oct 04 08:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | NO TITLE | Oct 04 08:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why Android Fans Are Feeling Anxious Ahead of Google's | Oct 04 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Next Hardware Event https://t.co/XB8MFExneC | Oct 04 08:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | Why Android Fans Are Feeling Anxious Ahead of Google's Next Hardware Event | Motherboard | Oct 04 08:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282857036963840 | Oct 04 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Mi Box is officially launching today for $69 | Oct 04 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mkXWklz5fF (www.androidpolice.com) | Oct 04 08:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | The Mi Box is officially launching today for $69 | Oct 04 08:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! | Oct 04 08:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-balintreczey.hu | Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! | Obsessed with reality | Oct 04 08:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Create your own Tizen themes with the Tizen Theme Editor | Oct 04 08:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Create your own Tizen themes with the Tizen Theme Editor - Tizen Experts | Oct 04 08:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Sysprof Plans for #gnome 3.24 https://t.co/KbiJDjUBIw | Oct 04 08:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OSI Welcomes Powering Potential: Open Source Advocates | Oct 04 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Extending Education in Tanzania https://t.co/mssWewnztS | Oct 04 08:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/bjVKj6CeCr | Oct 04 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7923062 | Oct 04 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Social [control] media does not punish people for racism, terror, 'trolling' etc. as it claims. Now even ciriticising religion or police is verboten? | Oct 04 09:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones, | Oct 04 10:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more! | Oct 04 10:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | AppData content ratings for games shipped in Fedora | Oct 04 10:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305810596159490 | Oct 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why health implants should have open source code | Oct 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/y98CJSxdBE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why health implants should have open source code | Tux Machines | Oct 04 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305812672294913 | Oct 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/gA9rcA07yW | Oct 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 04 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305813787938817 | Oct 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora News https://t.co/1BUY6o04Ud (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305815721598981 | Oct 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME News https://t.co/Lw0BaasU9W (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 10:01 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKyErEjxiE | Oct 04 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iFhone 8 Commercial Leaked! - YouTube | Oct 04 10:19 | |
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| MinceR | (short-lived link) https://i.4cdn.org/b/1475569857122.webm | Oct 04 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305817109909505 | Oct 04 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian News https://t.co/Y9KrOeQPqx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 10:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 10:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LegionAth favourited 'Why health implants should have open source code...' | Oct 04 10:31 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 4chan? | Oct 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | seems like they'e going bust soon | Oct 04 10:35 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 04 10:35 |
| MinceR | afaik they jumped the shark long ago anyway | Oct 04 10:36 |
| schestowitz | it's funny, but offensive to most women | Oct 04 10:38 |
| schestowitz | so I won't post it | Oct 04 10:38 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 04 10:41 |
| MinceR | the link won't last more than a few hours anyway | Oct 04 10:41 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/tc5-1.jpg | Oct 04 10:50 |
| MinceR | (audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475545742389.webm | Oct 04 10:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/783311496298233856 | Oct 04 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: because it's well known all terrorists are unable to find £17.50 down the back of the sofa.... https://t.co/MxCQuSsrJP | Oct 04 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Let travellers pay £17.50 to beat queues at airport #security https://t.co/tUpXLHrKfq more proof that it really is security theater | Oct 04 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice swing | Oct 04 10:54 |
| schestowitz | bad outcome | Oct 04 10:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 04 10:54 |
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| MinceR | >"We are going to be a fully-independent, sovereign country, a country that is no longer part of a political union with supranational institutions that can override national parliaments and courts," she said to applause. | Oct 04 10:58 |
| MinceR | oh, they're going to leave the Commonwealth and kick out the royal family? :> | Oct 04 10:58 |
| schestowitz | HAhahahahahaha | Oct 04 10:59 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 04 10:59 |
| XRevan861 | Another thing I keep wondering about is "national". | Oct 04 11:04 |
| ---XRevan861 is now known as XRevan86 | Oct 04 11:04 | |
| MinceR | "nation" is an idea invented to get people to gang up on other people, usually to kill them for the oppressors' profit | Oct 04 11:05 |
| XRevan86 | I guess the thing here is classical "us" and "them": "them" Germans/French can't dictate "their" will on "us", Britains, lords, the queen, the peasants alike. | Oct 04 11:08 |
| XRevan86 | * Britons | Oct 04 11:08 |
| MinceR | the classic forgetting that "them" also includes UK | Oct 04 11:08 |
| MinceR | and of course trying to have their cake and eat it too | Oct 04 11:09 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the EU people think about that | Oct 04 11:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783313648068460544 | Oct 04 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "I just want to run a container!" https://t.co/iMTtd6HXpQ | Oct 04 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (jvns.ca) | Oct 04 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | "I just want to run a container!" - Julia Evans | Oct 04 11:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783320852414750720 | Oct 04 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Quadrilateral Cowboy' released for Linux, a | Oct 04 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | single-player adventure in a cyberpunk world | Oct 04 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0oIh6Z1zQK (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 04 11:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323157805535232 | Oct 04 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with Comprehensive | Oct 04 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features https://t.co/6MtQHRuHfm (dot.kde.org) | Oct 04 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yYQMB8wc2V (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 11:11 |
| XRevan86 | While common people today have much better chances of communicating with common people from other countries than with lords of their own. | Oct 04 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZRjcy023Ms (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 04 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with Comprehensive Features | KDE.news | Oct 04 11:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Officially Released - Phoronix | Oct 04 11:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Celebrates Its 20th Anniversary with the Release of KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS | Oct 04 11:11 | |
| XRevan86 | and, obviously, share much more interests with them than with the "elite". | Oct 04 11:12 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TsiqumP | Oct 04 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-People like to pretend there's nothing wrong with Eclipse. I don't. - Imgur | Oct 04 11:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JotsandTitters/status/783322617528750084 | Oct 04 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JotsandTitters: @schestowitz @wikileaks $$$ the key objective | Oct 04 11:20 | |
| schestowitz | [16:09] <MinceR> i wonder what the EU people think about that | Oct 04 11:21 |
| schestowitz | back to the 1970s | Oct 04 11:21 |
| schestowitz | I didn't vote for brexit | Oct 04 11:21 |
| razielle_tzu | me neither | Oct 04 11:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LaurelCatherine/status/783322765713637378 | Oct 04 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LaurelCatherine: Well us good guys won that skirmish but the rodents never cease their chewing thru at wall https://t.co/xxu947oWhg | Oct 04 11:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Federal Court Says Ballot Selfie Ban Is Like Burning Down the House to Roast a Pig https://t.co/YqVRnSbwoa good analogy? | Oct 04 11:22 | |
| MinceR | i mean, the people who call the shots in the EU, the people these brexiters will negotiate with to try and keep all the advantages of the deal while getting rid of all the disadvantages | Oct 04 11:23 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/IUgHMDM.jpg | Oct 04 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323563046514689 | Oct 04 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust | Oct 04 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pkcyMn9nUP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust | Tux Machines | Oct 04 11:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323565420531714 | Oct 04 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux Routers | Oct 04 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a227K7iCao (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux Routers | Tux Machines | Oct 04 11:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783324385998430210 | Oct 04 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet for Gentoo as | Oct 04 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | contributor to the youbroketheinternet-overlay." | Oct 04 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lMvAggQOjH (gnunet.org) | Oct 04 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnunet.org | GNUnet for Gentoo | GNUnet | Oct 04 11:44 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice | Oct 04 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783331749027807232 | Oct 04 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI Support | Oct 04 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6v3yWusNSc (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI Support - Phoronix | Oct 04 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783332235575517184 | Oct 04 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 | Oct 04 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - Phoronix | Oct 04 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783334538462257152 | Oct 04 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late For | Oct 04 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9 https://t.co/48iU37EdIT (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late For Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 04 11:56 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/iAZ7oFF.jpg | Oct 04 12:13 |
| MinceR | http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/7_questions_mike_pence_should_asked_vice_president_debate_20161004 | Oct 04 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here Are 7 Questions Mike Pence Should Be Asked at the Vice Presidential Debate - Truthdig | Oct 04 12:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late...' | Oct 04 12:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342749571350530 | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Tools Released https://t.co/N42hE1qDgY | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 12:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Tools Released | Tux Machines | Oct 04 12:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342750980636672 | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/FOHY9CyoqJ | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 12:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 04 12:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342751953727488 | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BX83lq8bPq (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 12:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 04 12:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342752985526273 | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To University | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lawyers https://t.co/9lYvFIgMMV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 12:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To University Lawyers | Tux Machines | Oct 04 12:27 | |
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| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/20sign-1-1.jpg | Oct 04 12:39 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/8sign-3-1.jpg | Oct 04 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342754168385536 | Oct 04 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQA | Oct 04 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tFlJk97AIl (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 12:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQA | Tux Machines | Oct 04 12:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now...' | Oct 04 12:51 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/mickaelistria/status/783349449586343936 | Oct 04 12:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mickaelistria: @schestowitz Yup, there's something wrong here... Can you please report it to https://t.co/HVNrbTJQGQ ? | Oct 04 12:55 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe they think I took this shot | Oct 04 12:56 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 04 12:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783348773422587912 | Oct 04 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | Oct 04 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EyzSHDj5Eg (blog.lxde.org) | Oct 04 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 12:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lxde.org | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | LXDE Blog | Oct 04 12:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783349420922433536 | Oct 04 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Oct 04 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iXpIozoAsu (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Oct 04 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 12:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 04 12:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/christianlawre2/status/783350068216602625 | Oct 04 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@christianlawre2: @schestowitz @wikileaks you worship hillary clinton. You don't know the truth, anymore. you think her lies are the truth and truth are lies. | Oct 04 12:59 | |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 04 13:00 |
| schestowitz | Cute. | Oct 04 13:00 |
| schestowitz | I worship HRC :-) | Oct 04 13:00 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know... | Oct 04 13:00 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/xsIXZwR.jpg | Oct 04 13:21 |
| schestowitz | nice | Oct 04 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Linus spoke about the pressure thing | Oct 04 13:27 |
| schestowitz | after he flew inside a fighter het | Oct 04 13:27 |
| schestowitz | *jet | Oct 04 13:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783284882042564609 | Oct 04 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: My friend @hintjens pushed our meeting at the hospital to 5PM instead of noon. Shit, I wanted to say goodbye! | Oct 04 13:32 | |
| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1h1cyg/whats_the_most_intellectual_joke_you_know/ | Oct 04 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's the most intellectual joke you know? : AskReddit | Oct 04 13:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pyloris favourited '"In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet...' | Oct 04 13:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783352897673293825 | Oct 04 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT https://t.co/wofTyAW9q6 | Oct 04 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 04 13:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT • The Register | Oct 04 13:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362905378959364 | Oct 04 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/LiYEqC58Uz | Oct 04 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 13:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 04 13:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362906435883009 | Oct 04 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDE | Oct 04 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M0ifUoX8g3 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 13:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDE | Tux Machines | Oct 04 13:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362907581001728 | Oct 04 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | System Administration https://t.co/CxzLmf3Cye | Oct 04 13:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System Administration | Tux Machines | Oct 04 13:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362908575059969 | Oct 04 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXDE Performance https://t.co/p73KPlil8e | Oct 04 13:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXDE Performance | Tux Machines | Oct 04 13:48 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9HsBaOh.jpg | Oct 04 14:14 |
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| XRevan86 | base A | Oct 04 14:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RayNeutrino/status/783368979280789506 | Oct 04 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RayNeutrino: Yes #JillStein is the only candidate supported by the efforts of the common people https://t.co/8se3usvAwp | Oct 04 14:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @DrJillStein @ajamubaraka That's because Greens are not funded by corporations and wealthy donors who expect silence in return | Oct 04 14:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/783372052371681280 | Oct 04 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: In computing systems as in life systems, seems #diversity is #resilience; whereas #hegemony is #death: #sysvinit… https://t.co/7CDSdC5nfO | Oct 04 14:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: In computing systems as in life systems, seems #diversity is #resilience; whereas #hegemony is #death: #sysvinit… https://t.co/7CDSdC5nfO | Oct 04 14:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362909757812736 | Oct 04 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Evolving Your Open Source Project Infrastructure: There's | Oct 04 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | No Such Thing As Done https://t.co/naq1NbzzyO | Oct 04 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Evolving Your Open Source Project Infrastructure: There's No Such Thing As Done | Tux Machines | Oct 04 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783378167666995200 | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | Oct 04 15:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIRER | Oct 04 15:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783379531256176640 | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked by | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retailer https://t.co/yfAg09JsmL | Oct 04 15:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked by retailer - Android Authority | Oct 04 15:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783381570321207296 | Oct 04 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @schestowitz @wikileaks Considering,,, https://t.co/4cHeSHZ3En | Oct 04 15:05 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/gg924kf.jpg | Oct 04 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ender74dev http://twitter.com/ender74dev/status/783380513314729985 | Oct 04 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software in a Box Daily wurde soeben publiziert! | Oct 04 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7LyUUxxLJS (paper.li) Vielen Dank an | Oct 04 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @aronchick @krmayank @tuxmachines #kubernetes #cloud | Oct 04 15:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Software in a Box Daily | Oct 04 15:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/JJonthewing/status/783380850046099457 | Oct 04 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked by | Oct 04 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @JJonthewing retailer https://t.co/yfAg09JsmL | Oct 04 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ArnoldDuendis/status/783387053820039168 | Oct 04 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation. | Oct 04 15:30 | |
| schestowitz | hmmm. | Oct 04 15:31 |
| schestowitz | too extreme | Oct 04 15:31 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/one-wish-3 | Oct 04 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - One Wish | Oct 04 15:43 | |
| MinceR | 04 213058 -TechrightsBot-tr:#techrights- @ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation. | Oct 04 15:43 |
| MinceR | EXTERMINATE ALL HUMANS | Oct 04 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | SEEK, LOCATE, DESTROY | Oct 04 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783385383631515648 | Oct 04 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3 Android phones that offer long battery life | Oct 04 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/25B3rOhZgK (www.infoworld.com) | Oct 04 16:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Android phones that offer long battery life | InfoWorld | Oct 04 16:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/783392513428168705 | Oct 04 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 | Oct 04 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 16:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - Phoronix | Oct 04 16:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783398426641915904 | Oct 04 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and | Oct 04 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5 | Oct 04 16:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401711486369793 | Oct 04 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Linux Foundation https://t.co/m8A7JAqtUg | Oct 04 16:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | Techrights | Oct 04 16:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401712857944064 | Oct 04 16:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distros News https://t.co/aJRdIVXYmv | Oct 04 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: sounds like Captain America: Winter Soldier | Oct 04 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That's from Doctor Who :). | Oct 04 16:27 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/legLOTd.jpg | Oct 04 16:28 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/nihEOtw | Oct 04 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I do really need drivers for my undefined Something MSI! - GIF on Imgur | Oct 04 16:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401714284015616 | Oct 04 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupter | Oct 04 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IrVWIsDeiQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupter | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401715315814400 | Oct 04 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What CIOs need to know about open source forking | Oct 04 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RUubkESjAe (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 16:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What CIOs need to know about open source forking | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401716481859584 | Oct 04 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Oct 04 16:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:55 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @INQ favourited 'Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke https://t.co/eUBzhPctUL' | Oct 04 17:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIRER | Oct 04 17:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783421228845441024 | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M1dWVi5Wie (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:59 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/783395668421378048 | Oct 04 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz c'mon-one senior judge with no business experience nor extensive technology background-baying at the moon | Oct 04 18:36 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: ah, OK, I'm not into it, never was | Oct 04 18:36 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's pretty good. | Oct 04 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | Both classical and current. | Oct 04 18:37 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/H9vFsZG.gifv | Oct 04 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783417084852117505 | Oct 04 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @TN_Conservative @schestowitz @wikileaks Good Luck ,,, https://t.co/LM6sbj8O3Q | Oct 04 18:41 | |
| schestowitz | LOL, MinceR https://twitter.com/RoyCohnsGhost/status/783260634725113856 | Oct 04 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RoyCohnsGhost: @JimBertido @wikileaks Bill doesn't have to hide out in an embassy to avoid his accusers. https://t.co/5RCmb1EMtM | Oct 04 18:42 | |
| schestowitz | funny. | Oct 04 18:42 |
| schestowitz | nails it | Oct 04 18:42 |
| MinceR | good for him | Oct 04 18:42 |
| schestowitz | but the sculptures I saw had a small one | Oct 04 18:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783426190581391360 | Oct 04 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and | Oct 04 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5 | Oct 04 18:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | Techrights | Oct 04 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783434239136108544 | Oct 04 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwlu | Oct 04 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438717092564992 | Oct 04 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phone Under $900 https://t.co/ITHBaxtYs3 | Oct 04 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 04 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone Under $900 | Android Central | Oct 04 18:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438892808728576 | Oct 04 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phone With Removable Battery | Oct 04 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CbSj96EQqX (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 04 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone With Removable Battery | Android Central | Oct 04 18:52 | |
| cubexyz | ok, I had some time so I was able to do some updates | Oct 04 19:14 |
| cubexyz | a historical look at filesystems | Oct 04 19:15 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Oct 04 19:15 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/comparison-different-os-df.txt | Oct 04 19:15 |
| cubexyz | got some ideas for updating the df command | Oct 04 19:15 |
| cubexyz | the documentation for very old Unix is a bit deficient | Oct 04 19:19 |
| cubexyz | it assumes you know a lot | Oct 04 19:20 |
| razielle_tzu | back then wouldn't that be true? | Oct 04 19:20 |
| cubexyz | definitely yes | Oct 04 19:20 |
| cubexyz | still, I feel I should try to improve it | Oct 04 19:20 |
| razielle_tzu | i'm not saying you shouldn't | Oct 04 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783439704968536064 | Oct 04 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwlu | Oct 04 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 19:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441578656428033 | Oct 04 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Oct 04 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XqjoQum5Uk (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 04 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 19:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released - Tizen Experts | Oct 04 19:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441771925766148 | Oct 04 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 | Oct 04 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FrGvay6NVm (www.everydaylinuxuser.com) | Oct 04 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 19:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 « Everyday Linux User | Oct 04 19:23 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/mV5NrEC.jpg | Oct 04 19:27 |
| cubexyz | I have to load-balance the Unix v5 files | Oct 04 19:28 |
| cubexyz | got some ideas for future updates... | Oct 04 19:29 |
| cubexyz | port some sort of file compression utility for v5 | Oct 04 19:30 |
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| cubexyz | the old DEC RK05 hard drive system was limited to 2.5 megs per drive | Oct 04 19:35 |
| cubexyz | so one has to be a bit economical with disk usage | Oct 04 19:36 |
| razielle_tzu | just a bit | Oct 04 19:36 |
| cubexyz | my original amiga hard drive was also pretty small | Oct 04 19:42 |
| cubexyz | 49 megs | Oct 04 19:42 |
| cubexyz | seagate ST-157N | Oct 04 19:43 |
| cubexyz | still, going from a single 880K floppy to 49 megs was a big difference | Oct 04 19:44 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Oct 04 19:44 |
| razielle_tzu | i can't remember the size of my first amiga hdd | Oct 04 19:44 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783455238015496193 | Oct 04 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: Just discovered my honest and personal post about quitting has been grossly twisted by @schestowitz. Not happy. https://t.co/g1i2CkfXgp | Oct 04 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | haha | Oct 04 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Alice/Section 101 Still Spelling Doom for Proponents of Software Patents, Including Some Patent Law Firms | Techrights | Oct 04 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783453965673304065 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454095386435585 | Oct 04 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz No, but I have now, and you have grossly misrepresented my position. | Oct 04 19:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz I am *not* going back to software development. That comment you quote was sarcastic and snide (and I responded to it). | Oct 04 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454450241241088 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454624598470656 | Oct 04 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz My decision is personal and does *not* reflect any 'layoffs' or 'shutdowns'. Your inference is harmful to my employer. | Oct 04 19:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And I vehemently resent your suggestion that I (or anyone else) is, or has been, in the business of lying to clients. | Oct 04 19:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454746690461696 | Oct 04 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz If your reading comprehension skills are so poor, maybe you should not be in the business of writing. | Oct 04 19:56 | |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 04 19:56 |
| schestowitz | you did promote software patents a lot. This, to me, is dishonest. | Oct 04 19:56 |
| schestowitz | -me | Oct 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz | he's not happy about the critical slant | Oct 04 19:57 |
| razielle_tzu | evidently | Oct 04 19:58 |
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| cubexyz | I'm going to augment the ps command as well | Oct 04 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783447400010711040 | Oct 04 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Become an undead assassion in 'Aragami', now available | Oct 04 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with day-1 Linux support and some thoughts from me | Oct 04 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NFuEERAuGk (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 04 20:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783455397139087361 | Oct 04 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24 Release Schedule Now https://t.co/EQozuek6h4 | Oct 04 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) direct: https://t.co/5ONeb4hMX1 | Oct 04 20:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783456442082791424 | Oct 04 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The Desktop | Oct 04 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7GPjsasJfK (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The Desktop - Phoronix | Oct 04 20:02 | |
| schestowitz | razielle_tzu: it's ok if they dislike me | Oct 04 20:03 |
| schestowitz | they're supposed to | Oct 04 20:03 |
| schestowitz | otherwise I fail to counter them | Oct 04 20:03 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Oct 04 20:03 |
| schestowitz | but I'm fine with that, I heard from some people they won't say those things for fear of insulting or alienating them | Oct 04 20:03 |
| schestowitz | but someone needs to do it, and what I said was actually true | Oct 04 20:03 |
| schestowitz | they're nervous over death of swpats at the moment | Oct 04 20:03 |
| razielle_tzu | so they should be | Oct 04 20:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457175863644160 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457450372374529 | Oct 04 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz Holding views that differ from yours is 'dishonest'? No, it isn't. And you have no idea how & on what basis I advise clients. | Oct 04 20:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz While I may not agree with you, I've always viewed you as fair and principled. Apparently I was wrong. Show some respect. | Oct 04 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | No, he never viewed me like that | Oct 04 20:05 |
| schestowitz | he knew where I stoof | Oct 04 20:05 |
| schestowitz | *stood | Oct 04 20:05 |
| cubexyz | is this Mr. Solve the web page? :) | Oct 04 20:06 |
| cubexyz | oh well, it doesn't matter | Oct 04 20:09 |
| cubexyz | the tone seemed the same | Oct 04 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783457154820956164 | Oct 04 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel | Oct 04 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/PJ5mZzZ6RX | Oct 04 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 04 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 - Exclusive | Oct 04 20:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux...' | Oct 04 20:10 | |
| cubexyz | almost as obtuse as Ted Stevens | Oct 04 20:12 |
| cubexyz | it's not a big truck you know! | Oct 04 20:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783458633027760128 | Oct 04 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And, don't worry, I will continue to 'promote' software patents, even without a financial interest. | Oct 04 20:14 | |
| schestowitz | haha | Oct 04 20:14 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/c6OmW3s | Oct 04 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Maps now has functionality that allows you to mimic the swerving of a drunk driver. - Imgur | Oct 04 20:17 | |
| MinceR | an honorable villain, willing to fight to destroy the world even if there's nothing in it for him! | Oct 04 20:18 |
| razielle_tzu | xD | Oct 04 20:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 04 20:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783459222902087680 | Oct 04 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel | Oct 04 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/c5wWe5mWxZ | Oct 04 20:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 | Tux Machines | Oct 04 20:49 | |
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| MinceR | > anon@anon:~> grep couric /usr/share/units.dat | Oct 04 21:10 |
| MinceR | > couric 2.5 pounds feces # official unit of measurement of fecal samples, per: http://www.efsmi.org/?ref=efsmi.eu | Oct 04 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.efsmi.org | European Fecal Standards and Measurements Institute (EFSMI) | Oct 04 21:10 | |
| MinceR | > kouric couric | Oct 04 21:10 |
| MinceR | > trump 79.366 couric # per: http://www.howtallis.org/donald-trump-height-weight-shoe-size/ | Oct 04 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump height and weight | HowTallis.Org | Oct 04 21:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux...' | Oct 04 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507778786631680 | Oct 04 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows | Oct 04 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/0e3Kl7N8j5 | Oct 04 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows Subsystem for Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 04 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507780393050113 | Oct 04 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros | Oct 04 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on March 22, 2017 https://t.co/whcdvGnQ6t | Oct 04 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros on March 22, 2017 | Tux Machines | Oct 04 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507782469169157 | Oct 04 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Oct 04 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v82aXGPelZ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Tux Machines | Oct 04 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507783580737536 | Oct 04 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves the | Oct 04 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updater, Patches Over 40 Bugs https://t.co/X92mNoZMNI | Oct 04 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves the Updater, Patches Over 40 Bugs | Tux Machines | Oct 04 23:23 | |
| DaemonFC | http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/ | Oct 05 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo won't make Windows 10 phones due to Microsoft's commitment issues | Oct 05 00:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://hothardware.com/news/windows-10-anniversary-update-sending-users-reboot-loop-hell | Oct 05 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Latest Windows 10 Anniversary Update Build Sends Some Users To Reboot Loop Hell | HotHardware | Oct 05 01:23 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3123153/windows/more-than-half-of-pcs-dont-have-windows-10-au-yet-and-no-ones-quite-sure-why.html | Oct 05 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More than half of PCs don't have Windows 10 AU yet, and no one's quite sure why | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pudm3 ] | Oct 05 01:24 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.komando.com/happening-now/350765/busted-the-reason-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-you-think/all | Oct 05 01:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Busted! The reason Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | One Page | Komando... | Oct 05 01:29 | |
| DaemonFC | "The big problem Apple will have going forward is that Mac security entirely depends on a single defense called GateKeeper. GateKeeper only lets programs install if they have an approval certificate from Apple. | Oct 05 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | That means GateKeeper will stop you downloading and installing a random virus off the Internet. However, its weakness is that once a program has approval from Apple, it trusts that it's always going to be good. | Oct 05 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | In the ransomware attack from last week, hackers broke into the website of the Transmission BitTorrent client and replace the legitimate download with a version that included malicious code. GateKeeper just let the infected program install with no fuss." | Oct 05 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | The article is mostly an ad for Kaspersky Antivirus though. | Oct 05 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/03/18/busted-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-think.html | Oct 05 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Busted! Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/pudno ] | Oct 05 01:31 | |
| DaemonFC | Fox News basically copied it and replaced the ad for Kaspersky with advice to get an antivirus program. | Oct 05 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business. | Oct 05 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | They had about 200 systems. 150 ran Linux and 50 ran Windows. The BSA found out that some copies of Windows weren't licensed, so they tried to force a settlement on the company that involved wiping out the 150 Linux systems and installing a licensed copy of Windows on all 200. | Oct 05 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | He said that negotiations went on for months and he left the company and never did find out what happened. | Oct 05 01:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux Supports | Oct 05 04:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the New, Longer Tweets https://t.co/4T4WV6sWpJ | Oct 05 04:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux Supports the New, Longer Tweets | Tux Machines | Oct 05 04:22 | |
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| schestowitz | [06:36] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business. | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | I want to see it, but he's gone now | Oct 05 04:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783586943959494656 | Oct 05 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @patentology unfortunately @schestowitz sees a conspiracy everywhere he looks. So even when he is right he is wrong. | Oct 05 04:38 | |
| schestowitz | haha, says the patent industry | Oct 05 04:38 |
| schestowitz | as if Bristows at al inside IP Kat is not a fact. Among other things... | Oct 05 04:39 |
| schestowitz | you are actually among the most balanced of the bunch (Nicola too). Mark S-F was always very overt pro #swpats | Oct 05 04:40 |
| schestowitz | (just told him | Oct 05 04:40 |
| schestowitz | ) | Oct 05 04:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783588013880279040 | Oct 05 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @schestowitz yes it is shocking isn't it. IP law blog run by some people working in IP law firms. Must be suspicious @patentology | Oct 05 04:43 | |
| schestowitz | Pushing their financial agenda, yes. Like blog on energy/environment run by Exxon staff | Oct 05 04:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783588843580690432 | Oct 05 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @schestowitz I don't know what you base this on. Probably that I am a chemist. So computers not really my field. @patentology | Oct 05 04:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783589724887785472 | Oct 05 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz @EIP_Elements Well, now I've quit you're going to have to find some other BS explanation for why I don't just agree with you. | Oct 05 05:01 | |
| schestowitz | #swpats become like a 'religion' when one lives inside this echo chamber.Maybe you'll get exposed to other views | Oct 05 05:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sweet5hark/status/783597133333164032 | Oct 05 05:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sweet5hark: @schestowitz https://t.co/dh4pMktltb <- more ex-Sun OOo folks at LibreOffice now than ever had been on that other fork ... | Oct 05 05:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783583056951144448 | Oct 05 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/6NfKLJZoi6 | Oct 05 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 05:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 05 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783592259761471488 | Oct 05 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vista 10 Woes https://t.co/neld7brS3Y | Oct 05 05:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vista 10 Woes | Tux Machines | Oct 05 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783599257299345408 | Oct 05 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This Man Is Explaining Google’s Hardware Bet to Android | Oct 05 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Partners https://t.co/4HEaZVJsKt (www.bloomberg.com) | Oct 05 05:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Man Is Explaining Google’s Hardware Bet to Android Partners - Bloomberg | Oct 05 05:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601284112941057 | Oct 05 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi’s $69 4K Android TV box arrives in the US | Oct 05 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Fm6FVXxLw8 (www.engadget.com) | Oct 05 05:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Xiaomi's $69 4K Android TV box arrives in the US | Oct 05 05:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601358196895744 | Oct 05 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | docker-selinux changed to container-selinux | Oct 05 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/k8i7fmkkcF (danwalsh.livejournal.com) | Oct 05 05:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danwalsh.livejournal.com | docker-selinux changed to container-selinux - Dan Walsh's Blog | Oct 05 05:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601928035045376 | Oct 05 05:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Pixel makes a bid for Android history | Oct 05 05:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TQNLkcGkWN (www.cnet.com) | Oct 05 05:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Pixel makes a bid for Android history - CNET | Oct 05 05:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783603812221190144 | Oct 05 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Releases WildFly Application Server Version 10.1 | Oct 05 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9C5nJr6fJ2 (www.infoq.com) | Oct 05 06:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Red Hat Releases WildFly Application Server Version 10.1 | Oct 05 06:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783604912961781760 | Oct 05 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.8 https://t.co/79jOSL8JGA | Oct 05 06:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.8 « codeblog | Oct 05 06:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783607406580404225 | Oct 05 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8 | Oct 05 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a2AsIqguRh (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 05 06:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8 • The Register | Oct 05 06:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783608027857510400 | Oct 05 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source MANO Issues First Release | Oct 05 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FdrPfeXMER (www.lightreading.com) | Oct 05 06:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lightreading.com | Open Source MANO Issues First Release | Light Reading | Oct 05 06:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783609171577016320 | Oct 05 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs Now | Oct 05 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JnROzjBH9i (time.com) | Oct 05 06:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com | Google Pixel: Why Android Fans Should Love the iPhone Rival | Oct 05 06:11 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | A look back at Google's Android flagships: the Nexus family | Oct 05 06:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610512625979392 | Oct 05 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDE | Oct 05 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma 5.8 LTS Desktop https://t.co/BaIlueewJH | Oct 05 06:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Desktop | Tux Machines | Oct 05 06:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610514542690304 | Oct 05 06:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Oct 05 06:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Tux Machines | Oct 05 06:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610516098785280 | Oct 05 06:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Study: open source groups take security serious | Oct 05 06:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eOrBK0IWOx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 06:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Study: open source groups take security serious | Tux Machines | Oct 05 06:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610517680041984 | Oct 05 06:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/59Iz9TU6CI | Oct 05 06:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 05 06:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610518682546176 | Oct 05 06:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/0zMMwq0C8P | Oct 05 06:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/peUF9kpNdX | Oct 05 06:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 05 06:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers...' | Oct 05 06:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros...' | Oct 05 06:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves the Updater, Patches...' | Oct 05 06:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7929025 | Oct 05 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs Now http://time.com/4518365/google-pixel-xl-apple-iphone-android/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/04/a-look-back-at-googles-android-flagships-the-nexus-family/ | Oct 05 06:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> time.com | Google Pixel: Why Android Fans Should Love the iPhone Rival | Oct 05 06:30 | |
| schestowitz | "I fail to see any enthusiasm about that. Apple jail vs Google jaill? I can’t see the difference of the merits in that." | Oct 05 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.engadget.com | A look back at Google's Android flagships: the Nexus family [ http://ur1.ca/pufgz ] | Oct 05 06:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both ISOs, Based | Oct 05 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 https://t.co/JjQY4EDHkK | Oct 05 06:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both ISOs, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 | Oct 05 06:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616000969347072 | Oct 05 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub and 25 sensor | Oct 05 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | modules https://t.co/8yHJYfEemw (hackerboards.com) | Oct 05 06:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub and 25 sensor modules | Oct 05 06:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both...' | Oct 05 06:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @aadrake favourited 'Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub...' | Oct 05 06:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows | Oct 05 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/xcrLzGuu6h | Oct 05 06:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows Subsystem for Linux | Oct 05 06:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616532228239360 | Oct 05 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros | Oct 05 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on March 22, 2017 https://t.co/eAssl0BRg8 | Oct 05 06:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File Manager | Oct 05 06:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux Supports | Oct 05 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the New, Longer Tweets https://t.co/szho0lnp0M | Oct 05 06:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDE | Oct 05 06:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Oct 05 06:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Huffington Post | Oct 05 06:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mad Max to release on 20th of October for Linux & | Oct 05 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SteamOS, being ported by Feral Interactive | Oct 05 06:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "The Mad Max game is being released for Linux later this | Oct 05 06:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | month on 20 October." https://t.co/m74rinjGrO | Oct 05 06:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of Heroes | Oct 05 06:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of Heroes 10th Anniversary Bundle | Oct 05 06:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/opendna/status/783628484363087872 | Oct 05 07:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@opendna: Related: publicly traded companies which list "goodwill" as an asset on the balance sheet. https://t.co/yMOkVZCP0N | Oct 05 07:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How many companies out there have imaginary/intangible perceived value that's basically just a bubble like #swpats ? What happens next? | Oct 05 07:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Beta 3 Release Updates FireFox, KDE Applications, | Oct 05 07:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE News | Oct 05 07:45 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Goofy_fr/status/783641553826934784 | Oct 05 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Goofy_fr: Vous voulez travailler dans l'informatique, trouver un boulot bien payé et intéressant, choisissez l'open source ! https://t.co/63htfplZ3f | Oct 05 08:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It's good to be an open source pro in Europe https://t.co/ZzB1TwqJuT #freesw | Oct 05 08:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GeorgeAnders/status/783648378580152321 | Oct 05 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GeorgeAnders: @schestowitz Cars used to play that function. But who drives anymore!? | Oct 05 08:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783651297807433728 | Oct 05 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Just closed mine, never used it anyway... :) | Oct 05 08:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GreensforJill/status/783651762767007744 | Oct 05 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreensforJill: @dodrty @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka Yes. Military experience is invaluable to any President. 🌻 | Oct 05 08:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dodrty/status/783652765377581061 | Oct 05 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dodrty: @GreensforJill @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka well, it damn sure wouldn't do DJT any freaking good! | Oct 05 09:00 | |
| schestowitz | some people closing their accounts at yahoo today | Oct 05 09:00 |
| schestowitz | and talking about those stupid VP debates.. | Oct 05 09:01 |
| MinceR | (shortlived, audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475619161631.webm | Oct 05 09:07 |
| razielle_tzu | of course they're talking about the debates | Oct 05 09:25 |
| MinceR | http://www.theonion.com/graphic/jurisprudence-fetishist-gets-off-on-technicality-9063 | Oct 05 09:31 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: excellent! | Oct 05 09:39 |
| MinceR | < anon> tories have unveiled new uk flag - http://i.imgur.com/HqCYSZi.jpg | Oct 05 10:20 |
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| cubexyz | ok, you can criticize the newer versions of firefox, but chrome is also a cpu hog | Oct 05 10:35 |
| MinceR | good thing i have Pale Moon and linkx | Oct 05 10:36 |
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| cubexyz | yeah, my openbsd system uses far less cpu | Oct 05 10:43 |
| cubexyz | but it's not a fair comparison really | Oct 05 10:43 |
| cubexyz | the openbsd box has 256 megs of ram, so I don't bother running chrome or firefox on it | Oct 05 10:43 |
| cubexyz | and another deficiency is one doesn't have fine control over what firefox/chrome does | Oct 05 10:44 |
| cubexyz | if I kill a chrome/ff process the whole thing exits | Oct 05 10:45 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/3FEPvbx.jpg | Oct 05 10:52 |
| cubexyz | oooo burn: | Oct 05 11:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/illegal-immigrant.jpg | Oct 05 11:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 05 11:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux: The free operating system alternative that changed | Oct 05 11:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It's good to be an open source pro in Europe | Tux Machines | Oct 05 11:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/ifNAnY0VKo | Oct 05 11:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 05 11:32 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d1yDCWicf0 | Oct 05 12:41 |
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| cubexyz | that guy is missing the point | Oct 05 12:56 |
| cubexyz | Spurlock was getting the "Super Size" meals when it was offered | Oct 05 12:57 |
| cubexyz | McDonalds was pushing the super size stuff | Oct 05 12:57 |
| cubexyz | and Spurlock did exercise.. 5,000 distance steps per day | Oct 05 12:58 |
| cubexyz | the "average" amount | Oct 05 12:58 |
| cubexyz | if you were to eat a steady diet of that stuff you'd be unhealthy | Oct 05 12:59 |
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| cubexyz | Cisna is flat out wrong | Oct 05 13:02 |
| cubexyz | sure, if you burn up more calories that you injest you will lose weight | Oct 05 13:03 |
| cubexyz | a lot of the weight gain since the 1980s was due to high-fructose corn syrup | Oct 05 13:04 |
| cubexyz | Cisna was merely McDonalds sock puppet | Oct 05 13:05 |
| cubexyz | so yes, if you have a whole team of people scrunitizing the entire McDonalds menu and making the healthiest possible choices, drinking water and not pop and exercising a ton, yes you can lose weight eating at McDonalds | Oct 05 13:07 |
| cubexyz | but what will the average person do eating at McDonalds? | Oct 05 13:07 |
| cubexyz | let's look at a quarter pounder with cheese as an example | Oct 05 13:09 |
| cubexyz | total fat 20 grams | Oct 05 13:09 |
| cubexyz | trans fat 1.2 grams | Oct 05 13:09 |
| cubexyz | sodium 730 mg | Oct 05 13:09 |
| cubexyz | sugar 9 grams | Oct 05 13:09 |
| cubexyz | calories 417 | Oct 05 13:09 |
| cubexyz | so we can safely disgard the faux-documentary by John Cisna | Oct 05 13:11 |
| cubexyz | learn to cook :) | Oct 05 13:13 |
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| MinceR | so if you don't eat at McD, stuff yourself and don't move, you won't get fat? | Oct 05 14:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691252176859138 | Oct 05 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Pros Confident in Europe Job Market | Oct 05 14:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Pros Confident in Europe Job Market | Tux Machines | Oct 05 14:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortage | Oct 05 14:28 |
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| cubexyz | Cisna is a nutbar, that was my point | Oct 05 14:38 |
| cubexyz | he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's diet | Oct 05 14:38 |
| cubexyz | sure, you can cut calories and lose weight even if those calories don't have a much nutrition | Oct 05 14:40 |
| cubexyz | but it's not healthy | Oct 05 14:40 |
| cubexyz | if you take in more calories than you use, you will gain weight | Oct 05 14:41 |
| cubexyz | emphasing McDonalds as a way to lose weight is stupid | Oct 05 14:41 |
| schestowitz | [19:38] <cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's diet | Oct 05 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Never heard of jim | Oct 05 14:42 |
| schestowitz | sounds like a tool | Oct 05 14:42 |
| schestowitz | burgers in a bun are no balanced diety | Oct 05 14:42 |
| schestowitz | (diet | Oct 05 14:42 |
| cubexyz | right, it's obviously a bad idea | Oct 05 14:42 |
| schestowitz | they're not the worst | Oct 05 14:42 |
| cubexyz | probably pringles is the worst, or some other chips | Oct 05 14:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PopoZao69/status/783729784509444097 | Oct 05 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PopoZao69: @DocMellyMel @GreenPartyUS @CalStateLA Please please please ask @DrJillStein about her thoughts on Harambe! #RIPHarambe | Oct 05 14:44 | |
| schestowitz | she already posted those | Oct 05 14:44 |
| cubexyz | Cisna is from Iowa, so you may not have heard much about him | Oct 05 14:45 |
| cubexyz | he choices at McDonalds actually weren't bad... he was eating the healthiest possible choices on the mcdonalds menu | Oct 05 14:47 |
| cubexyz | there's another guy who did something similar | Oct 05 14:50 |
| cubexyz | Mark Haub lost 27 pounds in 10 weeks eating twinkies and other junk | Oct 05 14:50 |
| cubexyz | so he restricted his calories to 1,800 per day and took multi-vitamins and ate vegetables | Oct 05 14:51 |
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| cubexyz | here's a good counter-argument: | Oct 05 14:56 |
| cubexyz | http://listovative.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-not-eat-food-at-mcdonalds/ | Oct 05 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Reasons why you should not eat Food at McDonalds - Listovative [ http://ur1.ca/puhq7 ] | Oct 05 14:56 | |
| schestowitz | ta for the link | Oct 05 15:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming To | Oct 05 15:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming To GNU/Linux | Techrights | Oct 05 15:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | My triumph in Rocket League and why you need to own it on | Oct 05 15:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Apricity: Slip Into Something More Comfortable | Oct 05 15:24 |
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| cubexyz | MIcrosoft vice president Paul Maritz describing microsoft's strategy vs netscape, java and the internet: | Oct 05 15:28 |
| cubexyz | "embrace, extend and extinguish" | Oct 05 15:28 |
| cubexyz | didn't work though | Oct 05 15:29 |
| cubexyz | there's some balkanizing of course | Oct 05 15:30 |
| cubexyz | I believe the current term is 'splinternet' | Oct 05 15:30 |
| cubexyz | google android uses google (naturally) | Oct 05 15:31 |
| cubexyz | blackberry defaulted to bing | Oct 05 15:32 |
| cubexyz | iphone doesn't use flash | Oct 05 15:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu on Intel Atom mini PCs (Linuxium’s builds for Bay | Oct 05 15:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trail and Cherry Trail computers) https://t.co/nR2ibXh5Bl | Oct 05 15:33 |
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| cubexyz | the doomsday scenario I feared... that microsoft would take over everything, didn't happen | Oct 05 15:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | [Early Access] Sailfish OS Fiskarsinjoki | Oct 05 15:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | [Early Access] Sailfish OS Fiskarsinjoki | Jolla Blog | Oct 05 15:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Trying Out The Experimental Unity 8 Session On Ubuntu | Oct 05 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 16.10 https://t.co/llRM8xR0iD (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 05 15:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | FUSE Supports POSIX ACLs In Linux 4.9 | Oct 05 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UOXFBPiYA6 (www.phoronix.com) Staging Update | Oct 05 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux 4.9 https://t.co/DUzA3h9NnU (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 05 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FUSE Supports POSIX ACLs In Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 05 15:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Staging Update For Linux 4.9 Is Heavy With Adding Greybus, Raspberry Pi VCHIQ - Phoronix | Oct 05 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754086843809792 | Oct 05 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell XPS 13 laptops with Kaby Lake now available for $800 | Oct 05 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and up (Windows and Ubuntu options) | Oct 05 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BAIFQuhbVZ (liliputing.com) | Oct 05 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dell XPS 13 laptops with Kaby Lake now available for $800 and up (Windows and Ubuntu options) - Liliputing | Oct 05 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754474653384706 | Oct 05 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu, enterprise container | Oct 05 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | portfolio expands https://t.co/5ho6RWOhhz | Oct 05 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu, enterprise container portfolio expands - Open Source Insider | Oct 05 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754626524934145 | Oct 05 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unity 8 Desktop Session Arrives in Ubuntu 16.10 | Oct 05 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8FgCXRaAaX (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Oct 05 15:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Unity 8 Desktop Session Arrives in Ubuntu 16.10 - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 05 15:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783755319025528832 | Oct 05 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Happy 25th once again to Linux, ‘the little OS that | Oct 05 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | definitely could’ https://t.co/JRm8vIBzsC | Oct 05 15:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.idg.com.au | Happy 25th once again to Linux, 'the little OS that definitely could' - PC World Australia | Oct 05 15:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756149308915713 | Oct 05 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition now available with Ubuntu | Oct 05 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Intel Kaby Lake CPU https://t.co/pmn9anNuB1 | Oct 05 15:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition now available with Ubuntu Linux and Intel Kaby Lake CPU | Oct 05 15:52 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2340.html | Oct 05 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... The Internet of ransomware things! | Oct 05 16:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756572707196932 | Oct 05 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots, | Oct 05 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Video) https://t.co/ojEa6MEnCx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) ... | Oct 05 16:55 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10...' | Oct 05 16:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756606626562052 | Oct 05 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots, | Oct 05 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Video) https://t.co/m7zMIpEazQ (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Oct 05 16:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Hands On With Unity 8 in Ubuntu 16.10 - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 05 16:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772652099907584 | Oct 05 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Graphics https://t.co/6seYjwGxCm | Oct 05 16:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 05 16:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, Kubernetes | Oct 05 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Canonical Ubuntu https://t.co/H9v6iCBMWv | Oct 05 16:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Oct 05 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772654591283200 | Oct 05 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/eNoLJACqr1 | Oct 05 16:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772655635668992 | Oct 05 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mad Max for GNU/Linux https://t.co/l7HNEY43Us | Oct 05 16:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mad Max for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 16:56 | |
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| MinceR | 05 203859 < cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's diet | Oct 05 17:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 05 17:20 |
| MinceR | that's pretty nutty | Oct 05 17:20 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/XTqYah2.gifv | Oct 05 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Oct 05 17:23 | |
| MinceR | https://magyarchan.net/boards/b/image/1475/70/14757021789774.png | Oct 05 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | Pieter Hintjens's Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On http://techrights.org/2016/10/05/pieter-hintjens-swpats/ | Oct 05 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pieter Hintjens’s Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/puihw ] | Oct 05 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/783782530487123968 | Oct 05 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz Thank you, my online friend. | Oct 05 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/taotetek/status/783783812807401472 | Oct 05 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@taotetek: @schestowitz thank you so much for writing this. | Oct 05 17:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783785669604831232 | Oct 05 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Same here :D | Oct 05 17:49 | |
| schestowitz | rianne is waiting for new articles | Oct 05 17:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783786499082973184 | Oct 05 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz They are coming as we speak :) | Oct 05 17:53 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fnkbnr/status/783789576808697856 | Oct 05 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fnkbnr: .@schestowitz They might not be "lying" but are forced to so. Question: Would that be legal. Which law would make this possible? | Oct 05 18:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772656868859904 | Oct 05 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel Headlines https://t.co/B1PFthUhKL | Oct 05 18:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Headlines | Tux Machines | Oct 05 18:17 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 05 18:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783793178209955840 | Oct 05 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity | Oct 05 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 Session After All https://t.co/g4R1E48Itf | Oct 05 19:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity 8 Session After All | Tux Machines | Oct 05 19:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783793179388555264 | Oct 05 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma | Oct 05 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 https://t.co/keWzcyvvL7 | Oct 05 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 | Tux Machines | Oct 05 19:17 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7931392 | Oct 05 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wow, what a headline. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2473084/torvalds-finds-a-bug-in-stable-linux-kernel-48-and-goes-apeshit #torvalds #linux | Oct 05 21:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theinquirer.net | Torvalds finds a bug in stable Linux Kernel 4.8 and goes apeshit | TheINQUIRER | Oct 05 21:14 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 05 21:14 |
| schestowitz | <cynicism> Remember: Don’t fix Bugs, instead of fixing Bugs lets bash Linus </cynicism> | Oct 05 21:14 |
| schestowitz | let me guess: NSA/CIA HUMINT Action against Linus, so that he has less time to fix bugs? [1] | Oct 05 21:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 05 21:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/camo/fea92a7bd0f8f260485835abbbbe49a681bb3bc0/687474703a2f2f6d6172636c616e646f6c742e63682f696d672f6c696e75782e706e67 | Oct 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | "[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILAlhwUgIU#t=40m14s (40:14)" | Oct 05 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jacob Applebaum: To Protect And Infect, Part 2 [30c3] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pujfg ] | Oct 05 21:15 | |
| MinceR | looks more like just enjoying the show | Oct 05 21:15 |
| cubexyz | "Linus not going apeshit after finding bug" would be more surprising :) | Oct 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | or let’s exlain it a bit more childish | Oct 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Bender = NSA/CIA | Oct 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Fry = Linux | Oct 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sj4Simru28 | Oct 05 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Futurama chess. Bender cheats. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pujfj ] | Oct 05 21:15 | |
| MinceR | does Linus really care what people say about what he said? | Oct 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | ' | Oct 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Nicely put, if not sarcastic | Oct 05 21:15 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 05 21:16 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linus-gives-win7-bsod-thumbs-up.jpg | Oct 05 21:17 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-up-for-bsod.jpg | Oct 05 21:26 |
| cubexyz | an old school CRT BSOD :) | Oct 05 21:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783819801135308800 | Oct 05 22:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/dELC5GNFWl | Oct 05 22:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 05 22:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/Dn7CNaRpZe | Oct 05 22:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 05 22:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849855907094528 | Oct 05 22:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian | Oct 05 22:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/0RcRGSxI7Z | Oct 05 22:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork | Tux Machines | Oct 05 22:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849856917917696 | Oct 05 22:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style | Oct 05 22:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | expansion https://t.co/40VVEmMGn7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 22:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style expansion | Tux Machines | Oct 05 22:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849857932898304 | Oct 05 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & | Oct 05 22:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & K12 Capture File Support | Tux Machines | Oct 05 22:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Google releases open source 'Cartographer' | Oct 05 22:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google releases open source 'Cartographer' | Tux Machines | Oct 05 22:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid | Oct 05 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/THXHoi9z97 | Oct 05 22:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration Support Coming Soon | Tux Machines | Oct 05 22:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | So we voted today. | Oct 05 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | I did split my ballot. | Oct 05 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for some Greens when it was that and Democrats. :P | Oct 05 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | But that was only for the water reclamation board. | Oct 05 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | They're doing that Deep Tunnel project that's been going on since the 70s. | Oct 05 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it's wasted plenty of money by now. | Oct 05 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_us_57f53b9be4b002a7312022ef | Oct 05 23:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Mike Pence's Defining Moment As Governor? Enabling An HIV Outbreak | Huffington Post | Oct 05 23:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm happy. I got to vote to eliminate a useless government office and save taxpayers $800,000 a year. | Oct 06 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | Turns out there's a Cook County recorder and the Clerk's office and they both do similar things. | Oct 06 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | So I voted to eliminate the recorder's office. | Oct 06 00:33 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Oct 06 03:39 |
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| schestowitz | SebthreeBQM10HD: morning... | Oct 06 04:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | schestowitz morning | Oct 06 04:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity | Oct 06 04:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 Session After All https://t.co/rYyTWbRLDe | Oct 06 04:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity 8 Session After All | Oct 06 04:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma | Oct 06 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 https://t.co/WLRTGSUpGU | Oct 06 04:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 | Oct 06 04:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with Other | Oct 06 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Distributions https://t.co/L0uYZaQtyt | Oct 06 04:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with Other GNU/Linux Distributions | Oct 06 04:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783948477554458624 | Oct 06 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian | Oct 06 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/dAVAgh7OSD | Oct 06 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 04:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork | Oct 06 04:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783948727245496320 | Oct 06 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style | Oct 06 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | expansion https://t.co/iP3mS9utb3 (hackerboards.com) | Oct 06 04:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style expansion | Oct 06 04:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783949021350072320 | Oct 06 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & | Oct 06 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | K12 Capture File Support https://t.co/zcstDdotno | Oct 06 04:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & K12 Capture File Support | Oct 06 04:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783949442525368320 | Oct 06 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid | Oct 06 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/7auTNXKDWY | Oct 06 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 04:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration Support Coming Soon - Exclusive | Oct 06 04:40 | |
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| schestowitz | Danish Financial Supervisory Authority (FSA) will be covered later this morning in Techrights... | Oct 06 05:28 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for the heads up. I'll read it and likely forward it to some | Oct 06 05:34 |
| schestowitz | > friends in Denmark. One fellow I worked with had his PhD delayed a year | Oct 06 05:35 |
| schestowitz | > or so while the administrators and businesses fought over the software | Oct 06 05:35 |
| schestowitz | > patents. He couldn't publish while that was going on and without | Oct 06 05:35 |
| schestowitz | > publishing the dissertation, he could not be awarded his PhD. | Oct 06 05:35 |
| schestowitz | publishable | Oct 06 06:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783950014624169984 | Oct 06 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 | Oct 06 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/eAmvdlHc16 | Oct 06 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 06:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) | Oct 06 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783951027858993152 | Oct 06 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 | Oct 06 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/WuOhBJX3hU | Oct 06 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 06:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) | Tux Machines | Oct 06 06:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings...' | Oct 06 06:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice...' | Oct 06 06:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend &...' | Oct 06 06:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu...' | Oct 06 06:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu...' | Oct 06 06:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an...' | Oct 06 06:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration...' | Oct 06 06:20 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, it's on the Intranet, so everyone would have seen it." | Oct 06 06:45 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the...' | Oct 06 06:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998181084426244 | Oct 06 07:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demos | Oct 06 07:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v6CVzdlm2X (thenextweb.com) | Oct 06 07:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demos | Oct 06 07:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998390925422592 | Oct 06 07:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking by | Oct 06 07:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | releasing its Pixel smartphone https://t.co/WtYQzMCFBK | Oct 06 07:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.cnbc.com) | Oct 06 07:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking by releasing its Pixel smartphone | Oct 06 07:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998823181975552 | Oct 06 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora meeting summary https://t.co/DvSKS1paie | Oct 06 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ankursinha.in) | Oct 06 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Join Meeting 26 September 2016 - Summary - ankursinha.in/blog | Oct 06 08:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783999531964887040 | Oct 06 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-Source | Oct 06 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software https://t.co/bF27hFe8No (www.bloomberg.com) | Oct 06 08:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-Source Software - Bloomberg | Oct 06 08:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784000130290708481 | Oct 06 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Rugged Android Phone https://t.co/79Ac4Y38re | Oct 06 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) "Bottom line: The Galaxy S7 | Oct 06 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Rugged Android Phone | Android Central | Oct 06 08:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Active" | Oct 06 08:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001188836540416 | Oct 06 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Patches Android for 78 Vulnerabilities in October | Oct 06 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update https://t.co/K09PHLoMvO (www.eweek.com) | Oct 06 08:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Google Patches 78 Android Flaws in October Update | Oct 06 08:04 | |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh wasn't back in here again | Oct 06 08:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/784004160840761346 | Oct 06 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: WebKitGTK+ and WPE are cool, but I'm more curious about this: https://t.co/W7Ckhz6NkB https://t.co/OJ4tUbylPB | Oct 06 08:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://servo.org/ ) | Oct 06 08:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Web Engines Hackfest 2016! https://t.co/94BMQzxVnu #WebKitGTK #gnome #gtk #freesw #www | Oct 06 08:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001891265052672 | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10 basic linux security measures everyone should be doing | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VejA80KL23 (www.scrye.com) | Oct 06 08:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784003344402636800 | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Frogr 1.2 released https://t.co/zApdkzIQ3T (mariospr.org) | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5AZBwAxls2 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Oct 06 08:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784005247756820480 | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in the | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | UK https://t.co/AHYugwV9yS (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 06 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-name lookup timed out ( status 0 @ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/frogr-flickr-uploader-for-linux-update ) | Oct 06 08:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in the UK - Tizen Experts | Oct 06 08:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007357776990208 | Oct 06 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Camera https://t.co/IsXEwGIobf | Oct 06 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 06 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Camera | Android Central | Oct 06 08:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007756860776448 | Oct 06 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big Screen | Oct 06 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5GzeJKfy6b (www.fastcompany.com) | Oct 06 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big Screen | Fast Company | Business + Innovation | Oct 06 08:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784009947948408836 | Oct 06 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's Guide | Oct 06 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CYyQsguM6M (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 06 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's Guide | Android Central | Oct 06 08:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784011037498564608 | Oct 06 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box in | Oct 06 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | your home https://t.co/WVyBB0mMAq (www.pocket-lint.com) | Oct 06 08:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box in your home - Pocket-lint | Oct 06 08:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012198582620161 | Oct 06 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: Leaked | Oct 06 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Changelog Reveals Difference https://t.co/C1TWTNXSgp | Oct 06 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.ibtimes.com) | Oct 06 08:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: Leaked Changelog Reveals Difference Between Pixel OS Features And Upcoming Update | Oct 06 08:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012577139556352 | Oct 06 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the Tizen | Oct 06 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Store https://t.co/kFVRVvXpWr (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 06 08:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the Tizen Store - Tizen Experts | Oct 06 08:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012811907235840 | Oct 06 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya Today | Oct 06 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YEBXoNphtK (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 06 08:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya Today - Tizen Experts | Oct 06 08:51 | |
| cubexyz | we're predicting 12 hours of rain and an immiment upgrade: | Oct 06 10:13 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kcci-news-time-for-windows-10.jpg | Oct 06 10:13 |
| cubexyz | imminent, learn to spell | Oct 06 10:14 |
| cubexyz | a lot of people just don't have control of their computers | Oct 06 10:18 |
| cubexyz | they don't know anything about the BIOS, they sometimes can't even load an alternative OS, windows 10 can just barf out messages whenever it wants | Oct 06 10:19 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows10-download.png | Oct 06 10:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: On a positive side, it does make a message %). | Oct 06 10:21 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpg | Oct 06 10:26 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/779nV | Oct 06 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | New AI Is Capable of Beating Humans At Doom - Slashdot | Oct 06 10:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784013102299906049 | Oct 06 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux With | Oct 06 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review https://t.co/j9WkGdCOzX | Oct 06 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.itechpost.com) | Oct 06 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itechpost.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux With Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review : Tech : iTech Post | Oct 06 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039396999782400 | Oct 06 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora, | Oct 06 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systemd.conf https://t.co/PEtNeH8DxX | Oct 06 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora, systemd.conf | Tux Machines | Oct 06 10:35 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/784039278070431745 | Oct 06 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bigonbe: @schestowitz Forkbomb command is even smaller than that... | Oct 06 10:42 | |
| schestowitz | I was thinking of that all along ;-) | Oct 06 10:42 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I linked to your server | Oct 06 10:45 |
| schestowitz | and now it's not accessible. "haha" indeed... | Oct 06 10:45 |
| schestowitz | I cannot open | Oct 06 10:45 |
| schestowitz | [15:26] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpg | Oct 06 10:45 |
| schestowitz | oh, wait, now it's moving super-slowrly | Oct 06 10:46 |
| cubexyz | overload | Oct 06 10:46 |
| schestowitz | before that it just timed out | Oct 06 10:46 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: maybe add a caching layer? | Oct 06 10:46 |
| cubexyz | should be OK now but I'll look into it | Oct 06 10:47 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: ok, cheers | Oct 06 10:48 |
| schestowitz | thanks for logging the channels also | Oct 06 10:48 |
| cubexyz | np :) | Oct 06 10:48 |
| schestowitz | I'll need that some time later, put that on freeze while EPO is spying | Oct 06 10:48 |
| schestowitz | I think Researcher- might be a bot of theirs | Oct 06 10:48 |
| schestowitz | but not sure, just a theory | Oct 06 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039398811643909 | Oct 06 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME News https://t.co/7kgrz8D2E4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 10:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux Machines | Oct 06 10:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039400489426944 | Oct 06 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/wSIpQ1htQu | Oct 06 10:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Oct 06 10:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039401751924736 | Oct 06 10:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen/ARTIK/Samsung https://t.co/vu5sPxjNq4 | Oct 06 10:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen/ARTIK/Samsung | Tux Machines | Oct 06 10:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039403375034368 | Oct 06 10:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Russia's Nyet to Proprietary Software | Oct 06 10:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux is a new frontier for young developer | Oct 06 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/reR6BEizDZ (opensource.com) | Oct 06 11:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Linux Story: Building a custom Linux distro | Opensource.com | Oct 06 11:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Linux is a new frontier for young developer...' | Oct 06 11:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048257194491904 | Oct 06 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A general guide for the best practices of buying Linux | Oct 06 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | games https://t.co/VtCFPAEIDZ (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 11:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048459292835840 | Oct 06 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Shadow Warrior 2 may not come to Linux after all, it's | Oct 06 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | getting a bit confusing https://t.co/orHHfifgNl | Oct 06 11:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048895076790273 | Oct 06 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCN | Oct 06 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 1.0/1.1 GPUs https://t.co/ABRS6oBX1q (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 11:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCN 1.0/1.1 GPUs - Phoronix | Oct 06 11:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784049407138365440 | Oct 06 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BUTCHER from Transhuman Design releases with day-1 Linux | Oct 06 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support, it's brutal https://t.co/cOMGaINMZO | Oct 06 11:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784050606487048192 | Oct 06 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 Kernel | Oct 06 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Kt01MYp7S0 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 11:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 06 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784051178950782977 | Oct 06 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More changes in Linux 4.9 https://t.co/wJtMnsgwEs | Oct 06 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/GZgh022E44 | Oct 06 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sound Updates For Linux 4.9: Skylake Audio Still Being Tuned - Phoronix | Oct 06 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 11:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Elan Touchsceeen Driver, GPIO Decoder For "Input" On Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 06 11:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/prHQnDS | Oct 06 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So what exactly are the consequences? - Imgur | Oct 06 12:37 | |
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| cubexyz | this one might upset the kiddies: | Oct 06 12:50 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/mrs-potato-head-bsod.jpg | Oct 06 12:50 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 06 12:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 12:53 |
| cubexyz | last one for today I promise: | Oct 06 13:01 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/mr-peanut-bsod.jpg | Oct 06 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784052074707288064 | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Stellar Tactics', a space exploration RPG with classless | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | character progression will come to Linux | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FUXGa0FBYP (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/stellar-tactics-a-space-exploration-rpg-with-classless-character-progression-will-come-to-linux.8267 ) | Oct 06 13:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784052412646563840 | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Day of Infamy, the WWII FPS from New World Interactive | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | updated, looks pretty good on Linux | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YYcBnwbBrn (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784061626433597440 | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This Extension Adds Dynamic Transparency to GNOME Shell’s | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top Bar https://t.co/NyZIhwa9tZ (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | This Extension Adds Dynamic Transparency to GNOME Shell's Top Bar - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 06 13:05 | |
| MinceR | there goes the 'branding'... | Oct 06 13:07 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/HROU0T9.jpg | Oct 06 13:13 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah... | Oct 06 14:13 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp12c3-IL-I | Oct 06 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Spherical Droste Effect, with added twist and recursion. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/puo6y ] | Oct 06 14:24 | |
| XFaCE | [13:07:49]<MinceR> there goes the 'branding'... | Oct 06 14:33 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 06 14:33 |
| schestowitz | but whose? | Oct 06 14:33 |
| XFaCE | I've been keeping track of the systemd stupidity via an excellent threat at Gentoo Forums | Oct 06 14:33 |
| XFaCE | it's depressing | Oct 06 14:33 |
| MinceR | gnome's | Oct 06 14:34 |
| XFaCE | *thread | Oct 06 14:34 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: same difference at this point | Oct 06 14:34 |
| XFaCE | it's all related | Oct 06 14:34 |
| XFaCE | and has some level of collusion | Oct 06 14:34 |
| schestowitz | systemd not a hard req for gnome? | Oct 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes explained to me recently it's still somehow possible to avoid it | Oct 06 14:35 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: that seems to be in flux | Oct 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | but not for long, or not simply | Oct 06 14:35 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Funtoo has standalone Gnome | Oct 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | so then there's just one of each: init system, network system etc. | Oct 06 14:35 |
| XFaCE | by extension Gentoo to | Oct 06 14:35 |
| XFaCE | o | Oct 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz | and systemd expects app devs to rewrite their apps to cope with systemd apis | Oct 06 14:36 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: BTW, reading up it seems Gentoo has a systemd dev who develops the main alternative to systemd too | Oct 06 14:36 |
| XFaCE | openrc | Oct 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | so that'll be the deal breaker | Oct 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz | as the apps are not even strictly tied to gnome itself (the shell) | Oct 06 14:36 |
| XFaCE | and for the past few years has been breaking openrc with unnecessary changes | Oct 06 14:36 |
| XFaCE | and is able to do this with impunity | Oct 06 14:37 |
| XFaCE | and no consequence | Oct 06 14:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I assume you saw that announcement about multiple versions of GTK4+ to be installed on one computer to help fix compatibility? | Oct 06 14:37 |
| XFaCE | how windows of them | Oct 06 14:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: so if you have an application that needs 4.2, and you have 4.6, you will have both versions installed | Oct 06 14:39 |
| XFaCE | and increased the number of versions for every GTK application on your computers | Oct 06 14:39 |
| XFaCE | *increase | Oct 06 14:40 |
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| MinceR | 06 203513 < schestowitz> systemd not a hard req for gnome? | Oct 06 14:45 |
| MinceR | it is, but funtoo/gentoo have patches to fix it | Oct 06 14:45 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd | Oct 06 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd: GNOME Without Systemd | Oct 06 14:46 | |
| MinceR | >systemd is a hard run time dependency for basic functionality | Oct 06 14:46 |
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| MinceR | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161005/15280135720/prominent-pro-patent-judge-issues-opinion-declaring-all-software-patents-bad.shtml | Oct 06 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prominent Pro-Patent Judge Issues Opinion Declaring All Software Patents Bad | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/puobt ] | Oct 06 14:49 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I prefer another alternative Gnome project, called Xfce :3 | Oct 06 14:54 |
| MinceR | i didn't know that was a gnome project | Oct 06 14:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: it's a joke | Oct 06 14:54 |
| MinceR | i like fvwm with xfce4-panel and xfce4-power-manager | Oct 06 14:55 |
| XFaCE | as in, the better alternative is to not run Gnome at all :P | Oct 06 14:55 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 06 14:55 |
| MinceR | in that case, i agree | Oct 06 14:55 |
| XFaCE | espcially if I have to waste time with "extensions" | Oct 06 14:55 |
| XFaCE | compare to Xfce, where the "extensions" are just additional applications that augment an ALREADY complete DE | Oct 06 14:56 |
| XFaCE | *AUGMENT* | Oct 06 14:56 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 14:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks, missed this link | Oct 06 14:58 |
| MinceR | yw | Oct 06 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/okertbrian/status/784114091342213120 | Oct 06 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@okertbrian: @schestowitz @DrJillStein that one is hard to buy. | Oct 06 15:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/fuZLzbV | Oct 06 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You're not supposed to report yourself, silly - Imgur | Oct 06 16:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784118663397908480 | Oct 06 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Remix OS Brings Android For PC https://t.co/vFuSCiA1iM | Oct 06 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Oct 06 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remix OS Brings Android For PC - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 06 16:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124138097037312 | Oct 06 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/7mKsU9TyvP | Oct 06 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124139355328512 | Oct 06 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvB | Oct 06 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124141033009152 | Oct 06 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits? | Oct 06 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HbXzU629hN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 16:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits? | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124142337400832 | Oct 06 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security Tips | Oct 06 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LSfZdVw9nK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security Tips | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124143486631936 | Oct 06 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/GXL0Nhp0wU | Oct 06 16:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124182216970240 | Oct 06 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 | Oct 06 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rrfyTPHtRn (dot.kde.org) | Oct 06 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 16:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 | KDE.news | Oct 06 16:13 | |
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| zoobab | I love Gene Quinn | Oct 06 16:15 |
| zoobab | http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/10/06/judge-mayer-step-down-federal-circuit/id=73567/ | Oct 06 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It is time for Judge Mayer to Step Down from the Federal Circuit - IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law [ http://ur1.ca/puorl ] | Oct 06 16:15 | |
| MinceR | it hurts gene quinn's butt, as it should | Oct 06 16:24 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dXhjM9W.gifv | Oct 06 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Deer Loves Leaf Blower | Oct 06 16:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Marked_By_Rage favourited 'Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvB' | Oct 06 16:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784131642248011776 | Oct 06 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu | Oct 06 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org) | Oct 06 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 16:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu Linux | Techrights | Oct 06 16:52 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: he shoots his own foot | Oct 06 16:57 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: the headline is a lie | Oct 06 16:57 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: will respond to it soon | Oct 06 16:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: cute video... | Oct 06 17:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe the rich people think, "oohh, deer, it's delocious!" | Oct 06 17:01 |
| MinceR | not only the rich people do | Oct 06 17:01 |
| schestowitz | depends where | Oct 06 17:02 |
| schestowitz | in some places it's more "exotic" a menu item | Oct 06 17:02 |
| MinceR | and exotic menu items can't be good? :> | Oct 06 17:04 |
| schestowitz | expensive | Oct 06 17:10 |
| schestowitz | flown in | Oct 06 17:10 |
| schestowitz | we're not burning fossil fuels to transport dead animals for rich people's restaurants | Oct 06 17:11 |
| schestowitz | "not so bright folks, not so bright.."-Carlin | Oct 06 17:11 |
| MinceR | you're not? :> | Oct 06 17:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784134127763202048 | Oct 06 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu | Oct 06 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org) | Oct 06 17:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784140028972822528 | Oct 06 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with | Oct 06 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Oct 06 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co) | Oct 06 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek | Oct 06 17:16 | |
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| MinceR | it's not like we produce much food inside cities | Oct 06 17:18 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/apples_software_may_not_be_so_terrible/ | Oct 06 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Is Apple's software getting worse or what? • The Register | Oct 06 17:27 | |
| DaemonFC | "Developer Marco Arment took Apple to task early last year, arguing that OS X (recently rebranded macOS) is full of embarrassing bugs and that the company is trying to do too much on unrealistic deadlines. | Oct 06 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Arment subsequently disavowed his post because of the widespread media attention it received. But there was blood in the water and the feeding frenzy has continued at Apple's expense, at least in part because controversy, manufactured or not, drives online traffic." | Oct 06 17:27 |
| MinceR | it can get worse? | Oct 06 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, Apple probably threatened to jam up his apps in the "approval process" and start kicking them back for all sorts of reasons, so he shut up and walked it back. | Oct 06 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The fact that there is suddenly all kinds of malware and ransomware for Macs is something they've been trying to sweep under the rug. | Oct 06 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | They can't blacklist it fast enough. By the time Apple responds, there's already another variant. | Oct 06 17:30 |
| MinceR | suddenly? | Oct 06 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | Shortly thereafter, Apple executives Eddy Cue, SVP of internet software and services, and Craig Federighi, SVP of software engineering, responded to Mossberg's complaints in an interview with Daring Fireball's John Gruber. About 25 minutes in, Federighi said, "I know our core software quality has improved over the last five years. Improved significantly." And he noted that with regard to software quality, "There's nothing we care about more." | Oct 06 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | The Register asked Apple to provide some software quality metrics – the company gets crash reports from millions of its customers who opt in, and it has internal processes for assessing the quality of its engineering work. But Apple did not respond. | Oct 06 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | Haha | Oct 06 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | No comment. | Oct 06 17:32 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/google_faces_age_discrimination_suit/ | Oct 06 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Google 'screwed over' its non-millennials – now they can all fight back • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup46 ] | Oct 06 17:33 | |
| stites | The greatest expansion in what software is patentable occurred when Judge Mayer was chief judge of the USCAFC. Judge Mayer oversaw the creation of software patents. Now Judge Mayer has written an opinion which fully agrees with the points made by any of the anti-software patent people, including me. There is a very good explanation of both the legalities and politics of Judge Mayer's ruling in te3chdirt. https://www.techdirt | Oct 06 17:33 |
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| DaemonFC | Intel does this too. They drop workers who turn 40. | Oct 06 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/early_indications_show_uk_favouring_hard_brexit_says_expert/ | Oct 06 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Early indications show UK favouring 'hard Brexit', says expert • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup4i ] | Oct 06 17:35 | |
| DaemonFC | "Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal" | Oct 06 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's likely to harm their economy much worse than the benefits it brings. | Oct 06 17:35 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Oct 06 17:36 |
| razielle_tzu | we're fucked | Oct 06 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | They are heavily reliant on agricultural imports, so the shock at the grocery register is going to be pretty bad if the tariffs hit. | Oct 06 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, they could start importing things from the US, to some extent. | Oct 06 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | We have surpluses on certain items to the point that it is triggering government buying to keep prices stable. | Oct 06 17:37 |
| razielle_tzu | we could... | Oct 06 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | The UK is already buying up coal that is being mined in Illinois that doesn't meet US clean air laws. | Oct 06 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | (Which just means that it gets burned somewhere else while we pretend that we don't share an atmosphere.) | Oct 06 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the high sulfur content means that much of the acid rain that it results in will affect the UK and surrounding countries. | Oct 06 17:39 |
| razielle_tzu | i know :/ | Oct 06 17:39 |
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| DaemonFC | There's just something about English-speaking countries and widespread denial of global warming and other environmental problems. | Oct 06 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | I ride past an old nuclear powere plant in Zion on the Metra train now and then. | Oct 06 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Some idiot inserted the control rods too far into one of the reactors back in the late 90s and accidentally shut it down, then tried to bring it back up too quickly without following procedure. | Oct 06 17:41 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/zUAtucP | Oct 06 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The latest version o - Imgur | Oct 06 17:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Ended up doing a ton of damage to the generators. | Oct 06 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | The other one was down for refueling. | Oct 06 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | ComEd came in, decided that their license would be up in a little over another decade, and decided that it would cost less to shut the plant down immediately. | Oct 06 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | They might have gotten an extension, but they might have spent hundreds of millions of dollars fixing the plant and then not getting a new license. | Oct 06 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | So they buried the reactor waste on-site, a few hundred feet from Lake Michigan. | Oct 06 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/784140168500350976 | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Soundtoxin new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co) | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| DaemonFC | And then they started tearing down the facility. They sent a bunch of stuff to be stored or incinerated in Nevada. | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784146614516649984 | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wrapping up Outreachy https://t.co/tTOQ4A4G3v | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (renatagegaj.wordpress.com) | Oct 06 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-renatagegaj.wordpress.com | Wrapping up Outreachy | Renata's Blog | Oct 06 17:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147218479484928 | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/PUkfOFhSma | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Now there are armed guards and vehicle barricades, and all that good stuff. | Oct 06 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | They sold the license off to another company along with a bunch of decommissioning money they raised by tacking it on to Illinois power bills. | Oct 06 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | Now the money is almost gone, the decommissioning is not on schedule, and the company will probably go bankrupt. The state or federal governments will have to get involved, meaning taxpayer money. | Oct 06 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | All of this over some electricity that was used up decades ago. | Oct 06 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, it makes me wonder what that technician is doing these days. | Oct 06 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Interviewer: "So what did you do at your last job?" | Oct 06 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think "I destroyed a nuclear power plant." is going to be a good answer. | Oct 06 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | Congress won't pick a permanent storage site for nuclear waste, so we have all of these decommissioned facilities storing it on site with armed guards around it. | Oct 06 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | It will only get worse. | Oct 06 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | Add on top of that, that we have all of these reactors going that were designed in the 60s and put into service in the 60s and 70s getting license extensions, and we don't even really know if that's safe. | Oct 06 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now, some of these are sitting near fault lines, in Tornado Alley, and in areas where a hurricane could even hit them. | Oct 06 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised that nothing has happened since Three Mile Island to be honest. | Oct 06 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147219624529921 | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bugs and Security https://t.co/xxy1zIxfZN | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 17:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bugs and Security | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147220845125632 | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Server Administration https://t.co/pLRqhYR351 | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 17:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server Administration | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147222887665664 | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/X12NIoEBTh | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 17:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147224196284417 | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LiJkWbDFAi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 17:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:54 | |
| MinceR | >"I just need things that work, and that I can rely on working," he lamented. "I say this with the utmost regret, sadness, and no small sense of betrayal: Apple doesn't seem to make those things anymore." | Oct 06 17:55 |
| MinceR | good morning, if crApple ever did that, they stopped decades ago | Oct 06 17:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/784148982968836100 | Oct 06 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: come on, it's obvious: *jam* https://t.co/qj60owZ1w9 | Oct 06 17:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal" https://t.co/pPY9QzhJw4 #uk #brexit | Oct 06 17:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Many of the malware attacks on Windowws have historically taken advantage of people who had updates turned off. | Oct 06 17:59 |
| MinceR | now m$ takes advantage of people who have updates turned on | Oct 06 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | There'd be a new major piece of malware spreading and it would turn out that Microsoft had actually patched the vulnerability it was using months ago. | Oct 06 18:00 |
| MinceR | using m$ products is not the solution, regardless of settings | Oct 06 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | Apple recently patched abbout 90 security holes at once. | Oct 06 18:01 |
| MinceR | how many did they open at the same time? | Oct 06 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | They just let them pile up for months before fixing them. That's probably where so much of this malware is coming from. | Oct 06 18:01 |
| MinceR | crApple even lets upstream fixes pile up for months before delivering them | Oct 06 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the majority of the fixes in Webkit come from Google, Opera, Vivaldi, KDE, GNOME, etc. | Oct 06 18:03 |
| MinceR | (in BIND, for example) | Oct 06 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/microsoft_silent_outlookcom_woes/ | Oct 06 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Never explain, never apologize: Microsoft silent on Outlook.com email server grief • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupa6 ] | Oct 06 18:03 | |
| DaemonFC | Who uses ISP email> | Oct 06 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | If you leave, they delete your email account. | Oct 06 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/can_facebook_influence_an_election_result/ | Oct 06 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Can Facebook influence an election result? • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupab ] | Oct 06 18:04 | |
| DaemonFC | One reason why Hillary Clinton will win. | Oct 06 18:04 |
| MinceR | well, at least not golden dawnald | Oct 06 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook will probably alert mostly Clinton supporters to go vote. | Oct 06 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, John and I went to vote yesterday. | Oct 06 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | Clinton | Oct 06 18:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for Democrats on most of the ballot. | Oct 06 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | There were some offices where it was Democrats vs. Greens with no Republican, so I voted for the Greens there. | Oct 06 18:06 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | I voted to remove about 40 judges from the bench. | Oct 06 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | To eliminate the Cook County Recorder of Deeds. To give workers a minimum of 40 hours paid sick leave. To create a constitutional requirement to use transportation-related taxes for transportation projects. | Oct 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | Also for harsher sentencing for gun traffickers, people who illegally possess guns, and people who commit crimes with a gun. | Oct 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It was a hell of a printout at the end. | Oct 06 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | That's not even half of what we were voting on. :P | Oct 06 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like judges in general. To make things worse, they get lifetime appointments to the bench. So you have judges that have been there since the 60s and 70s. | Oct 06 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Time for some new ones. I doubt they'll get any of them off the bench though. That's the part of the ballot where people go "Gee, I don't know." and either don't vote or vote yes on keeping all of them. | Oct 06 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | I just can't see how someone who has the worldview that it's still the 1970s is supposed to rule on some of these cases that they are getting. | Oct 06 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | They should get 20 years on the bench and then go back into private practice or something. | Oct 06 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | We're asking people who didn't have a computer until they were in their 40s and who don't know the difference between a Mac and a PC to rule if Facebook's photo tagging violates the biometric security law. | Oct 06 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Then to make things better, you get jurors who are plumbers, nursing assistants, and stockboys at Walmart deciding the case. | Oct 06 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | And the lawyers aren't allowed to explain what the law says. | Oct 06 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz keeps writing about East Texas. | Oct 06 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's what's happing. | Oct 06 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | The article says, | Oct 06 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook deployed the button in a massive experiment in the 2010 US congressional elections. | Oct 06 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | Versions of the button, or no button at all, were shown to 61 million people in a joint study of the University of California, San Diego, with Facebook data scientists. | Oct 06 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | They used voting records to determine the button’s impact on real-world voting. It turns out the button’s call to action increased the total vote count by 340,000 votes. | Oct 06 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | ... | Oct 06 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | But who are those 340,000 extra voters, and why did Facebook poke them? | Oct 06 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | "t cites the example of the 2000 US presidential race, in which George W Bush beat Al Gore in Florida by a mere 537 votes. Had Gore carried Florida he would have won the presidential election." | Oct 06 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Officially, that's what happened. | Oct 06 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Republicans in the state government and on the US Supreme Court stopped the recount. | Oct 06 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | So it was 537, give or take some tens of thousands that got sent to the shredding machines. | Oct 06 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Facebook could therefore deploy the “I Voted” tool selectively only for supporters of candidates or political parties of its choosing, thereby amplifying only their votes. | Oct 06 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | This, it should be stated, would be legal, even if done covertly." | Oct 06 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | "But let’s assume that Facebook would not be willing to take such a risk." | Oct 06 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | Let us assume no such thing. They already got caught burying news from conservative news sites. | Oct 06 18:19 |
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| DaemonFC | As far as the 2010 election goes, I doubt Facebook made significant changes to what the outcome would have been. | Oct 06 18:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784152859726245888 | Oct 06 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz They're at it in this country, too. | Oct 06 18:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Only about 12% of the elections for US House seats are truly competitive. The state parties have drawn districts around the voters (gerrymandering) to get their desired result for the district election very nearly all of the time. | Oct 06 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois is pretty funny, actually, when you look at the districts. | Oct 06 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | Chicago has half of the districts, and then you get districts like that one downstate that's nearly 20% of the land area of the state by itself, and represented by a Republican that goes on Facebook to rant that we're doomed because the end times are coming and we've pissed God off. | Oct 06 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats drew the districts for Illinois, so they caged off a ton of Republican voters who get one representative in that district. | Oct 06 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised there was even a Republican on my ballot for Congress this year. This district is D+24. :P | Oct 06 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | https://ballotpedia.org/Illinois%27_2nd_Congressional_District | Oct 06 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ballotpedia.org | Illinois' 2nd Congressional District - Ballotpedia | Oct 06 18:29 | |
| DaemonFC | In the last election, the Democrat got 78.5% of the vote. | Oct 06 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Is this how elections are in Hungary? | Oct 06 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | They write the election laws so it's impossible to get rid of them no matter how you vote? | Oct 06 18:30 |
| MinceR | no, it's different | Oct 06 18:31 |
| MinceR | the usa has a 2-party system | Oct 06 18:31 |
| MinceR | hungary has a 1-party system | Oct 06 18:31 |
| schestowitz | us is a 1.5-party system ;-) | Oct 06 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://gizmodo.com/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-1771012990 | Oct 06 18:32 |
| schestowitz | 0.5 overlaps ;-) | Oct 06 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Facebook Employees Asked Mark Zuckerberg If They Should Try to Stop a Donald Trump Presidency [ http://ur1.ca/pupfl ] | Oct 06 18:32 | |
| DaemonFC | “I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as ‘others,’” Zuckerberg said, never referring to Trump by name. “I hear them calling for blocking free expression, for slowing immigration, for reducing trade, and in some cases, even for cutting access to the internet.” | Oct 06 18:32 |
| MinceR | fidesz/kdnp rewrote the election laws so they can get 2/3 of the seats in the parliament even if they get a minority of the votes | Oct 06 18:32 |
| MinceR | and put in more ways they can game the system | Oct 06 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook does block free expression. You piss a few people off, they go crying to Facebook, your account gets banned for 3 days. | Oct 06 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | I've had it happen a few times. | Oct 06 18:33 |
| MinceR | there are rumors that they're planning to retroactively make the last (failed) referendum valid | Oct 06 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That's worse than it is here. | Oct 06 18:33 |
| MinceR | no shit | Oct 06 18:33 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever again | Oct 06 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats would have to get 58% of the total US House vote to be sure to get 50% of the seats. | Oct 06 18:33 |
| MinceR | also tell everyone else the same | Oct 06 18:33 |
| schestowitz | [23:33] <MinceR> DaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever again | Oct 06 18:34 |
| schestowitz | + | Oct 06 18:34 |
| schestowitz | 1 | Oct 06 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook is always looking for ways to break Facebook customization browser extensions. | Oct 06 18:34 |
| schestowitz | i helped others delete their account too | Oct 06 18:34 |
| schestowitz | does fb still use b0ng? | Oct 06 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, they say that there's a feature in their Messenger apps for iOS and Android now that let you have a private conversation, end-to-end encryption, self-destruct messages, etc. | Oct 06 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Claim FB can't even read them. | Oct 06 18:35 |
| schestowitz | e.g. for search, translations? | Oct 06 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | It has all of those "What about the children!?" people up in arms. | Oct 06 18:35 |
| MinceR | don't trust dFB with that either | Oct 06 18:35 |
| MinceR | "they trust me" | Oct 06 18:35 |
| MinceR | "dumb fucks" | Oct 06 18:35 |
| schestowitz | in the ears | Oct 06 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | So I posted to their walls "People shouldn't trust Facebook. They should use uTox for a private conversation.". | Oct 06 18:35 |
| MinceR | an alleged end-to-end encrypted communication software is worthless if it isn't free software | Oct 06 18:36 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 06 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing you should say on Facebook Messenger is "If you want a private conversation, meet me on uTox.". | Oct 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz | they take the private keys | Oct 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz | I reckon | Oct 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz | same thing I suppose apple does | Oct 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz | but it's 'cloud' and proprietary, so FBI will say, "use it, it's safe"... | Oct 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz | e2e | Oct 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz | with us as the ends' 'backup' | Oct 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz | wink wink | Oct 06 18:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784159115706830848 | Oct 06 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz @glynmoody @rj_gallagher Glyn is absolutely fearless! | Oct 06 18:50 | |
| schestowitz | he has nothing to hide [sarcasm /] | Oct 06 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SamSamK007/status/784163944021815296 | Oct 06 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SamSamK007: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @HillaryClinton https://t.co/wEENZED9gh | Oct 06 18:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks like someont polled the Illinois Transportation Lockbox Amendment and "Yes" is at 80%. | Oct 06 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | It should easily pass. (We voted yes.) | Oct 06 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody trusts the legislature to stop raiding transportation funds and diverting it to other things. | Oct 06 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that I'm not the only one who gets mad that I'm paying hundreds of dollars in transportation taxes each year and every time I turn down another road I hit a pothole. | Oct 06 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | With any luck, we'll also get a new Comptroller and that puppet of Governor Rauner who is funding his priorities and starving out things like Medicaid has to leave. | Oct 06 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | The state never has enough money to pay its bills, so they fund priorities of the Republican Party and tell everyone else to wait. | Oct 06 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | Rauner has managed to inflict a lot of damage on transportation so far. | Oct 06 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | He impounded the money that Metra was going to use to buy new passenger rail cars. Now they're going to have to keep the ones they have rolling. Many were overdue for replacement 16 years ago. | Oct 06 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | So the lockbox amendment is a big "fuck you" to him. | Oct 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Brad_Kayl/status/784165805353164805 | Oct 06 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brad_Kayl: @schestowitz None of my Ubuntu machines can connect, but my Windows partition magically works just fine. Hm.... #DeletingMyAccount | Oct 06 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | Outlook | Oct 06 19:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: your url | Oct 06 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Outlook isn't very reliable. | Oct 06 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | A few years back, thye broke it in their own web browser and told people to use Chrome for a while. :) | Oct 06 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Oct 06 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | Have to put a new sticker on my windshield before the $200 parking tickets start rolling in. :P | Oct 06 19:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @ender74dev http://twitter.com/ender74dev/status/784164646504792066 | Oct 06 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software in a Box Daily wurde soeben publiziert! | Oct 06 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DNUNwz7bi6 (paper.li) Vielen Dank an | Oct 06 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @avazquezmendez @phil_taylor_iw #devops | Oct 06 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 19:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Software in a Box Daily | Oct 06 19:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784168421114146816 | Oct 06 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/89EOCSlj1g | Oct 06 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 19:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 19:16 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7936187 | Oct 06 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk https://electrek.co/2016/10/06/tesla-updated-browser-linux-os-december-says-musk/ | Oct 06 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Why does a car need a web browser?" | Oct 06 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek [ http://ur1.ca/pupvv ] | Oct 06 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | not to play pokemon go, that's for sure | Oct 06 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, People are paying Uber drivers to take them Pokemon hunting. | Oct 06 20:11 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 06 20:15 |
| schestowitz | waste of fuel | Oct 06 20:15 |
| schestowitz | and time | Oct 06 20:15 |
| schestowitz | facebook was mostly a waste of time | Oct 06 20:15 |
| schestowitz | at least that stupid games makes some people walk around rather than watch tv all day | Oct 06 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Hillary Clinton's lead is expanding in the polls. | Oct 06 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | Donald Trump is going to have to convince a lot of people to vote for him over the next 33 days, and many states have voting going on now. | Oct 06 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | So it doesn't look likely. | Oct 06 20:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784170349629956096 | Oct 06 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/89EOCSlj1g | Oct 06 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 20:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784174559238955009 | Oct 06 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Arch Terminal Desktop https://t.co/iK7xu5qqZR | Oct 06 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.lifehacker.co.in) | Oct 06 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.co.in | The Arch Terminal Desktop | Life Hacker India | Oct 06 20:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | Some kind of catastrophe would have to happen in the next month, and even if it does, a lot of the votes are going to be locked in. | Oct 06 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | You can't vote early and then go back and change your mind. | Oct 06 20:19 |
| MinceR | won't uncertain voters just vote at the last moments? | Oct 06 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | I never vote on election day. It's a great big clusterfuck of people who waited until the last minute. | Oct 06 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah. | Oct 06 20:20 |
| MinceR | there[3~ you go, lots of people voting on the last day :> | Oct 06 20:20 |
| MinceR | thanks, irssi | Oct 06 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, History shows that the more people turn out to vote, the more Democrats win. | Oct 06 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | So my thinking is that if John and I early vote, which we did, it means two less people standing in line then. | Oct 06 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, But all of the polls are open on election day. In early voting, that's not the case. | Oct 06 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | In Chicago, it starts at the Cook County building on September 29th, and the other early voting sites don't start opening until a couple of weeks later. | Oct 06 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | By election day, most people don't have to travel more than a block. | Oct 06 20:22 |
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| cubexyz | ok, re-examining df.c from unix v5, should be interesting | Oct 06 20:41 |
| cubexyz | df | Oct 06 20:55 |
| cubexyz | oops | Oct 06 20:55 |
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| cubexyz | reporting used and available blocks would be nice | Oct 06 21:06 |
| cubexyz | you might be wondering if v6 and v7 did that | Oct 06 21:07 |
| cubexyz | they did not | Oct 06 21:09 |
| cubexyz | the Unix v8 df command was much better | Oct 06 21:11 |
| cubexyz | too bad qmc didn't bother improving df | Oct 06 21:22 |
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| cubexyz | evidently Ampex Corp made a new improved df but the source code wasn't recovered | Oct 06 21:29 |
| cubexyz | ah, too tired to dig into it now | Oct 06 21:32 |
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| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/lenovo-in-talks-to-buy-fujitsus-loss-making-pc-business/ | Oct 06 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lenovo in talks to buy Fujitsu’s loss-making PC business | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqdz ] | Oct 06 21:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo is taking over what's left of Fujitsu's PC business. | Oct 06 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo is promising to keep existing factories and jobs, but eventually most will be closed/fired. | Oct 06 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | When it took over Motorola it let people keep their jobs, but not for very long. | Oct 06 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/cops-arrest-hundreds-of-people-allegedly-involved-in-irs-phone-scam/ | Oct 06 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Cops arrest hundreds of people allegedly involved in IRS phone scam | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqec ] | Oct 06 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/784186274332676097 | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The Arch Terminal Desktop https://t.co/iK7xu5qqZR | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @fabiocs (www.lifehacker.co.in) | Oct 06 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.co.in | The Arch Terminal Desktop | Life Hacker India | Oct 06 21:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784189450410528769 | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/IgwRkRsjlN | Oct 06 21:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209111374180352 | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | First pfSense 2.3.2 Update Adds OpenSSL Security Fixes to | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the BSD-Based Firewall https://t.co/h2hloKxAkJ | Oct 06 21:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First pfSense 2.3.2 Update Adds OpenSSL Security Fixes to the BSD-Based Firewall | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209112758308864 | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/qRGlY6odjE | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 21:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209113831964672 | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source IT pros are in high-demand in Europe | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iAsIP3idtT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 21:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source IT pros are in high-demand in Europe | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:50 | |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/10/gears-of-war-4-the-next-gen-is-now-if-youre-on-windows-10-at-least/ | Oct 06 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Gears of War 4: The next gen is now—if you’re on Windows 10, at least | Ars Technica | Oct 06 21:56 | |
| DaemonFC | If you use Intel graphics, you need their beta driver, or your computer will crash when you load the game. | Oct 06 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | "Gears of War 4's campaign mode might be one of the worst I've played in years." | Oct 06 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | Gears of War fell off a pretty steep cliff after the first one. | Oct 06 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | And it was really hard to play the campaign without a second player in some spots on the first game. | Oct 06 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft marketed the Xbox One as a console capable of 4K, but the Gears of War 4 game is locked to 1080p and 30 fps. | Oct 06 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | This isn't the first time they fudged. | Oct 06 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Halo 3 on the XBOX 360 wasn't even rendered at 720p. It just upscaled. | Oct 06 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209114826100737 | Oct 06 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 Developer | Oct 06 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition Laptop in US & EU https://t.co/gM1HQW28fW | Oct 06 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 22:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 Developer Edition Laptop in US & EU | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209116185042944 | Oct 06 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel | Oct 06 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keyring Non-Containable https://t.co/Vp6kaD1Tbj | Oct 06 22:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel Keyring Non-Containable | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for...' | Oct 06 22:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 Developer...' | Oct 06 22:18 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ray_Aldred/status/784306959839223808 | Oct 07 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ray_Aldred: @schestowitz So now what sort of laptop should I buy that is #Linux friendly?! #lenovo used to be my go-to company. :( | Oct 07 04:30 | |
| schestowitz | #system76 maybe | Oct 07 04:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ray_Aldred/status/784312587529793536 | Oct 07 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ray_Aldred: @schestowitz I've been considering it, but sadly the word on the street (reddit discussion, ubuntu forums etc.) is #system76 is a mix bag. | Oct 07 04:45 | |
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| Tervy | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/you_know_that_ridiculously_expensive_oculus_rift_yeah_it_just_got_worse/ about the custom headphonejacks | Oct 07 06:42 |
| Tervy | why.jpg | Oct 07 06:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Y'know that ridiculously expensive Oculus Rift? Yeah, it just got worse • The Register | Oct 07 06:42 | |
| schestowitz | did anyone here try it? | Oct 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | I tried something similar, made me have a headache quickly | Oct 07 06:52 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/rGJnI | Oct 07 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-History lesson: Katana myths dispelled - Album on Imgur | Oct 07 07:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784305262979010560 | Oct 07 07:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/IgwRkRsjlN | Oct 07 07:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 07:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 07 07:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784309277359902720 | Oct 07 07:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with | Oct 07 07:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mediatek https://t.co/xL4KRT6e0z (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 07 07:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 07:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with Mediatek - Tizen Experts | Oct 07 07:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352452531392512 | Oct 07 07:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's | Oct 07 07:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Encrypt Certificates https://t.co/BAEP1TQTwT | Oct 07 07:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 07:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt Certificates | Oct 07 07:20 | |
| MinceR | dnf/yum/rpm quality package management >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/ | Oct 07 07:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352707880579074 | Oct 07 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming Soon | Oct 07 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Ubuntu MATE 16.04 https://t.co/ksMiuFOkUF | Oct 07 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 07:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 07:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming Soon to Ubuntu MATE 16.04 | Oct 07 07:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353159363919872 | Oct 07 07:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for | Oct 07 07:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/SLhd2vetxz | Oct 07 07:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 07:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Oct 07 07:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353559626276864 | Oct 07 07:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel | Oct 07 07:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keyring Non-Containable https://t.co/yczrHCQpQ2 | Oct 07 07:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel Keyring Non-Containable | Oct 07 07:28 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's a good thing red hat has fedora to experiment on ;-) | Oct 07 07:29 |
| schestowitz | so as not to affect their paying customers | Oct 07 07:29 |
| MinceR | except they deploy all their halfbaked shit to rHELL too | Oct 07 07:31 |
| MinceR | like systemd | Oct 07 07:31 |
| MinceR | someone needs to tell them that letting crappy software rot and fester for a year doesn't magically make it stable | Oct 07 07:31 |
| MinceR | yum was garbage as well | Oct 07 07:31 |
| MinceR | and there's no indication that dnf is any better | Oct 07 07:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784354553869336576 | Oct 07 07:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It | Oct 07 07:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Launches on October 13 https://t.co/Ew82eltFfW | Oct 07 07:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It Launches on October 13 | Oct 07 07:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @slackolinux retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt...' | Oct 07 07:33 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch. The end result that guys point of view https://solettaproject.org/ or systemd | Oct 07 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 07 08:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784356019925291008 | Oct 07 08:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tomb Raider for Linux is currently super cheap on the | Oct 07 08:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feral store https://t.co/mMoElBsZc4 | Oct 07 08:54 |
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| cubexyz | both Lenovo and System76 are merely system integrators | Oct 07 09:11 |
| cubexyz | Quanta is the real manufacturer for Lenovo and many others | Oct 07 09:11 |
| cubexyz | it's still Lenovo's fault that Linux didn't work on the Yoga 900 though | Oct 07 09:12 |
| cubexyz | Clevo Computer makes laptops for system76 | Oct 07 09:13 |
| cubexyz | I've heard that the system76 machines aren't great with the BSDs | Oct 07 09:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: BSD has less drivers than Linux so is very simple to end up land mined. | Oct 07 09:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/OS/C236.cfm some of the land mining is funny. | Oct 07 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supermicro.com | Super Micro Computer, Inc. - Support | OS Compatibility Chart [ http://ur1.ca/puth5 ] | Oct 07 09:20 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: thoses are all the same core intel chipset do take note of the X11SAT | Oct 07 09:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: also Windows Server 2012 R2 64bit in UEFI section not booting. | Oct 07 09:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10,...' | Oct 07 09:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt...' | Oct 07 09:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in...' | Oct 07 09:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for...' | Oct 07 09:46 | |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, you're back | Oct 07 10:12 |
| cubexyz | haven't seen you in a while | Oct 07 10:12 |
| cubexyz | wow, no 32-bit support? | Oct 07 10:13 |
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| cubexyz | I'm not a big fan of system76 or los alamos computers | Oct 07 10:21 |
| oiaohm | Yes those boards don't have drivers for 32 bit. | Oct 07 10:21 |
| cubexyz | that would change if they supported coreboot... which to the best of my knowledge they don't | Oct 07 10:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I saw how far I could get with only 2G of ram. | Oct 07 10:21 |
| oiaohm | Turns out not far enough to run my irc clients happy enough with everything else. | Oct 07 10:22 |
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| cubexyz | ridiculous... :) | Oct 07 10:22 |
| cubexyz | I'm using 256 megs on this box | Oct 07 10:22 |
| oiaohm | I normally have firefox, chrome and libreoffice and vlc open. | Oct 07 10:23 |
| oiaohm | Plus a irc client. | Oct 07 10:23 |
| cubexyz | ok, chrome and firefox are definitely memory pigs | Oct 07 10:23 |
| oiaohm | Don't underestimate vlc or apt update. | Oct 07 10:24 |
| oiaohm | or apt upgrade. | Oct 07 10:24 |
| cubexyz | you can run IRCII in quasijarus on 16 megs | Oct 07 10:24 |
| oiaohm | One apt upgrade managed to eat though 4G of swap on top of the 2G of ram. | Oct 07 10:24 |
| oiaohm | I could not work out why that was until I worked out zswap not in zbud mode is nasty. | Oct 07 10:25 |
| cubexyz | you must be running much heavier stuff than me | Oct 07 10:26 |
| cubexyz | openbsd + icewm and 256 megs... and no issues with memory | Oct 07 10:26 |
| cubexyz | pkg_add works fine | Oct 07 10:26 |
| oiaohm | Firefox and chrome hurt. | Oct 07 10:26 |
| oiaohm | same with vlc. | Oct 07 10:26 |
| oiaohm | At the moment vlc is using twice as much ram as chrome. | Oct 07 10:27 |
| cubexyz | I must admit I never use vlc | Oct 07 10:28 |
| oiaohm | Put this way firefox, chrome or vlc in 2G of memory is fine. | Oct 07 10:29 |
| oiaohm | Want to run all 3 at once like I do say hello to trouble. | Oct 07 10:30 |
| oiaohm | At 4G of ram I still cannot play 0ad with everything else loaded. | Oct 07 10:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: note this is running LXQt windows manager is it not that eating me out of house and home. | Oct 07 10:31 |
| oiaohm | I think I have lived with 8G ram systems for too long to go back. | Oct 07 10:32 |
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| cubexyz | I've heard of LXDE but not LXQt | Oct 07 10:34 |
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| oiaohm | https://blog.lxde.org/?p=1364 LXQt is a Qt based version of LXDE. Over all close to the same memory foot print. | Oct 07 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lxde.org | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | LXDE Blog | Oct 07 10:36 | |
| cubexyz | ok, interesting | Oct 07 10:36 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: catch you around off to bed. | Oct 07 10:40 |
| cubexyz | ok, later | Oct 07 10:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424105881640960 | Oct 07 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/RSGNrI0QQ8 | Oct 07 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Oct 07 12:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424106963841024 | Oct 07 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/0u56G1wE6S | Oct 07 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 07 12:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424108075257856 | Oct 07 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Wants Data, Loses Data https://t.co/cgIUd6n1Sl | Oct 07 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Wants Data, Loses Data | Tux Machines | Oct 07 12:04 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/q7iYpRo | Oct 07 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You can't delete that file - Imgur | Oct 07 12:07 | |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 07 12:08 |
| cubexyz | the error message is that the file exists? | Oct 07 12:16 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Oct 07 12:16 |
| cubexyz | they need 8 hex digitals to keep track of all the different errors | Oct 07 12:19 |
| cubexyz | digits | Oct 07 12:19 |
| cubexyz | microsoft office error: 0x0000000FF1CE | Oct 07 12:21 |
| cubexyz | don't use 0xDEADC0DE | Oct 07 12:22 |
| razielle_tzu | heh | Oct 07 12:22 |
| cubexyz | in theory it's possible to max out number of temp files on windows | Oct 07 12:31 |
| cubexyz | maybe there's a 65,635 file limit or something | Oct 07 12:32 |
| cubexyz | so if you had 65,635 temp files and tried to delete a file it's possible you would have to delete some temp files first | Oct 07 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424109128101888 | Oct 07 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800 | Oct 07 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | languages, including dead ones https://t.co/i4HKDEEncq | Oct 07 12:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800 languages, including dead ones | Tux Machines | Oct 07 12:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424110185074689 | Oct 07 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It | Oct 07 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Launches on October 13 https://t.co/ILnZp85I6s | Oct 07 12:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It Launches on October 13 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 12:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @inet_solutions http://twitter.com/inet_solutions/status/784428717229613057 | Oct 07 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I think you might find this article about | Oct 07 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the top 25 SEO facts & stats extremely interesting | Oct 07 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4l5azRnWgs (www.inetsolutions.org) | Oct 07 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.inetsolutions.org/25-informative-seo-facts-statistics-probably-dont-know/ ) | Oct 07 12:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AmiRojkes favourited 'Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800...' | Oct 07 12:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AmiRojkes favourited 'Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with...' | Oct 07 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/AmiRojkes/status/784433512841637891 | Oct 07 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with | Oct 07 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AmiRojkes Mediatek https://t.co/xL4KRT6e0z (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 07 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 13:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with Mediatek - Tizen Experts | Oct 07 13:16 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/QX6W3Eo.gifv | Oct 07 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Oct 07 13:16 | |
| MinceR | http://cube-drone.com/comics/c/magic-eight-ball | Oct 07 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cube-drone.com | Cube Drone - - Magic Eight Ball | Oct 07 13:30 | |
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| antilope | hi | Oct 07 13:46 |
| antilope | this is how an internal EPO court looks like, including an Austrian judge.. | Oct 07 13:47 |
| antilope | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzz700H6T9M | Oct 07 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Roland Freisler - President of the German Nazi Court (with subtitles) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/puugm ] | Oct 07 13:47 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/iHB8bgz.jpg | Oct 07 14:18 |
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| DaemonFC | Mozilla has been talking about split-process, Pepper API, and replacing pdf.js with PDFium. | Oct 07 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of wonder, at this point, why they don't just rebase on Chromium, which already has all of the features they are trying to shoehorn into Firefox. | Oct 07 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | Opera gave up on Presto for the same reason. | Oct 07 14:21 |
| MinceR | i stopped caring about what they do when they made pulseaudio mandatory | Oct 07 14:24 |
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| MinceR | http://jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu/2012/08/julius-caesar-wally-wood-mad-monday.html | Oct 07 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu | Inside Jeff Overturf's Head: "Julius Caesar!" - Wally Wood - Mad Monday! [ http://ur1.ca/puupt ] | Oct 07 14:45 | |
| MinceR | (short-lived) https://i.4cdn.org/b/1475865972340.png | Oct 07 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | [13:15] <oiaohm> MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch. The end result that guys point of view https://solettaproject.org/ or systemd | Oct 07 15:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 07 15:08 | |
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| schestowitz | posted a link to it the other day, maybe that's where oiaohm found it | Oct 07 15:08 |
| MinceR | more cancerd advertisement, i don't care | Oct 07 15:08 |
| MinceR | (also mixed up with some IoT advertisement) | Oct 07 15:08 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR:yes, yum I always found to be sucky compared to apt | Oct 07 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | dnf is hardly excited, the yum guy died, shortly afterwards they rebranded their packaging | Oct 07 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | [19:18] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/iHB8bgz.jpg | Oct 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | crude | Oct 07 15:20 |
| MinceR | i don't see how | Oct 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | not for the faint-hearted | Oct 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | well, let's just say I won't post it publicly | Oct 07 15:22 |
| schestowitz | although there's a funny element to it | Oct 07 15:22 |
| schestowitz | I don't get the one with the tap | Oct 07 15:22 |
| schestowitz | clearly it was designed this way | Oct 07 15:23 |
| schestowitz | not as a prank | Oct 07 15:23 |
| schestowitz | maybe the world's worst plumber, my friend had experience with a few recently, one after another they messed up the bath, each time with different shoddy work | Oct 07 15:23 |
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| MinceR | https://media.giphy.com/media/ZsXORybHZvEpq/giphy.gif | Oct 07 15:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ElinaBeauchamp/status/784477703621664768 | Oct 07 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ElinaBeauchamp: @yahoo is not worth anything anymore https://t.co/TdR4cBSxKP | Oct 07 15:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476402041192448 | Oct 07 15:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "join the Debian LEGO team in the Alioth project we | Oct 07 15:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | created yesterday" https://t.co/gd5jFbu41s | Oct 07 15:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (people.skolelinux.org) | Oct 07 15:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 15:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.skolelinux.org | Petter Reinholdtsen: Isenkram, Appstream and udev make life as a LEGO builder easier | Oct 07 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476862735056900 | Oct 07 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, Android | Oct 07 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hccZoFp3nW (www.slashgear.com) | Oct 07 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 15:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, Android - SlashGear | Oct 07 15:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/784479007014346752 | Oct 07 15:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @schestowitz @nypost That is so interesting, I think it's right colonies pay the price for colluding with state agencies | Oct 07 15:45 | |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/44c298e061770134c40c005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-10-04 ) | Oct 07 15:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ArnoldDuendis/status/784483624452186112 https://twitter.com/kempton276/status/784484224657219586 https://twitter.com/ThomasPaine5/status/784485843834576896 | Oct 07 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka malgnd by stupid,impatient ppl.wik never said oct 4 would be anything more than what it was.dummies cant read. | Oct 07 16:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kempton276: @schestowitz @wikileaks @WLTaskForce - if you decided not to release the supposed "October surprise " then just say so! Getting impatient! | Oct 07 16:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThomasPaine5: @Thomas_Drake1 @schestowitz @Sulliview And then their market cap dropped by $1 billion. | Oct 07 16:16 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/xJwvJ41.jpg | Oct 07 16:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784482038409793537 | Oct 07 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel, | Oct 07 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android OEMs, and more https://t.co/ZFMNQukgGM | Oct 07 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (arstechnica.com) | Oct 07 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 16:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel, Android OEMs, and more | Ars Technica | Oct 07 16:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784489455788953600 | Oct 07 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 25 Beta Will Be Released Next Week | Oct 07 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/p3cU7jBg7F (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 16:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 25 Beta Will Be Released Next Week - Phoronix | Oct 07 16:31 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-secret-ingredient | Oct 07 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Secret Ingredient [ http://ur1.ca/puv72 ] | Oct 07 16:42 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Groundstain/status/784493921627799552 | Oct 07 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Groundstain: @schestowitz @wikileaks I did not even think about donating to them.Thanks for the suggestion. | Oct 07 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784491847586500608 | Oct 07 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why public libraries need to support open source | Oct 07 16:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why public libraries need to support open source | Tux Machines | Oct 07 16:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784491848806961156 | Oct 07 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/m9s1FO1CLv | Oct 07 16:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 07 16:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784495394654973964 | Oct 07 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment | Oct 07 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in GNU/Linux Distros https://t.co/3Lft6QYg5m | Oct 07 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/GSYnFfAxA3 (lwn.net) | Oct 07 16:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment in GNU/Linux Distros | Oct 07 16:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784495594794516480 | Oct 07 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.7.7 https://t.co/axNBAh2bsT (lwn.net) | Oct 07 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.4.24 https://t.co/vjPVL0dgYk (lwn.net) | Oct 07 17:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784496114435297280 | Oct 07 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMC | Oct 07 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | option https://t.co/ngdHfHaOrJ (hackerboards.com) | Oct 07 17:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMC option | Oct 07 17:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784496368433893376 | Oct 07 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Linux pioneer Linus Torvalds prefers x86 over ARM | Oct 07 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/r4668WPj1I (www.cio.com) | Oct 07 17:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Linux pioneer Linus Torvalds prefers x86 over ARM | CIO | Oct 07 17:00 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/KMjxiYV.jpg | Oct 07 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784498645748113408 | Oct 07 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9: F2FS Gets Performance Enhancements, EXT4 Gets | Oct 07 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fixes https://t.co/lJl8VcaP1U (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 18:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9: F2FS Gets Performance Enhancements, EXT4 Gets Fixes - Phoronix | Oct 07 18:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784498741944446977 | Oct 07 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Integrated Sensor Hub (ISH) Support In Linux 4.9 | Oct 07 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel https://t.co/XWnzKkuYLr (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 18:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Integrated Sensor Hub (ISH) Support In Linux 4.9 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 07 18:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784503283062808577 | Oct 07 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Systemd Now Supports The RISC-V CPU Architecture | Oct 07 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hSg2I54F5G (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 18:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Systemd Now Supports The RISC-V CPU Architecture - Phoronix | Oct 07 18:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for...' | Oct 07 18:28 | |
| MinceR | >cancerd is not portable between cpu architectures | Oct 07 18:29 |
| MinceR | what a piece of shit | Oct 07 18:29 |
| ---raziel_tzu is now known as razielle_tzu | Oct 07 19:01 | |
| cubexyz | ok, new blog... | Oct 07 19:05 |
| cubexyz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/ | Oct 07 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Notes on Linux | Oct 07 19:05 | |
| cubexyz | Hopefully it's somewhat helpful | Oct 07 19:05 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/p-humans | Oct 07 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - P-Humans [ http://ur1.ca/puvzk ] | Oct 07 20:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for...' | Oct 07 21:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784531566718488577 | Oct 07 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away | Oct 07 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | From Linux https://t.co/93G1qcEVmU (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 21:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away From Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:37 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/eHiqFDE | Oct 07 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sure windows 10, I'd love to give some Microsoft.WindowsFeedback! - Imgur | Oct 07 21:38 | |
| cubexyz | I'll bet | Oct 07 21:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 07 21:43 |
| MinceR | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186 | Oct 07 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 817186 – systemd incorrectly handles virtual text terminals | Oct 07 22:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784584002581716994 | Oct 07 23:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/jRYG2UiahG | Oct 07 23:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 07 23:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784584004410417152 | Oct 07 23:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel News https://t.co/cc0ZjyP96e | Oct 07 23:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel News | Tux Machines | Oct 07 23:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784591500822847488 | Oct 07 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20 | Oct 07 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mXGcWnkncU (techrights.org) | Oct 07 23:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20 | Techrights | Oct 07 23:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600282961481729 | Oct 07 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/sqHCv3jTfu | Oct 07 23:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 07 23:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600284496551937 | Oct 07 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/LFRtaSdZ6n | Oct 07 23:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 07 23:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600285943586816 | Oct 08 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Microsoft https://t.co/Nq5BUQlJwZ | Oct 08 01:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Microsoft | Tux Machines | Oct 08 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600287424176128 | Oct 08 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/Vg2OySPppJ | Oct 08 01:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 08 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600289869459456 | Oct 08 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/uQyulaOjOB | Oct 08 01:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 08 01:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/784621248454287362 | Oct 08 04:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment | Oct 08 04:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk in GNU/Linux Distros https://t.co/3Lft6QYg5m | Oct 08 04:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/GSYnFfAxA3 (lwn.net) | Oct 08 04:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment in GNU/Linux Distros | Oct 08 04:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.8.1 [LWN.net] | Oct 08 04:22 | |
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| schestowitz | [03:04] <MinceR> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186 | Oct 08 04:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 817186 – systemd incorrectly handles virtual text terminals | Oct 08 04:48 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 2012 | Oct 08 04:48 |
| schestowitz | talk about dead horse by now.. | Oct 08 04:48 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not exactly that bug is still alive in debian stable. Reason for using backports systemd. | Oct 08 05:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784670318883397633 | Oct 08 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20 | Oct 08 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/mXGcWnkncU (techrights.org) | Oct 08 06:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20 | Techrights | Oct 08 06:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784694490925821952 | Oct 08 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi Mi Box Now Available in U.S.: Android TV 6.0 with | Oct 08 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4Kp60 Output for $69 | Oct 08 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G5oUZBXPvL (www.anandtech.com) | Oct 08 06:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | Xiaomi Mi Box Now Available in U.S.: Android TV 6.0 with 4Kp60 Output for $69 | Oct 08 06:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784694976768860161 | Oct 08 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye | Oct 08 06:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye | Oct 08 06:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784696174896873472 | Oct 08 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September | Oct 08 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yKnbjF0dlO (www.fool.com) | Oct 08 06:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September -- The Motley Fool | Oct 08 06:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784696972649299968 | Oct 08 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Z2 Officially Launched in Kenya | Oct 08 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7JAqdXia3c (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 08 06:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z2 Officially Launched in Kenya - Tizen Experts | Oct 08 06:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784697245501366272 | Oct 08 06:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Core 16 Beta Linux distro for PC available now -- | Oct 08 06:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | coming soon to Raspberry Pi https://t.co/wRoojMFxAg | Oct 08 06:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (betanews.com) | Oct 08 06:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Ubuntu Core 16 Beta Linux distro for PC available now -- coming soon to Raspberry Pi | Oct 08 06:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701109134766080 | Oct 08 06:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/HBUe4JuxzP | Oct 08 06:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 08 06:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701110955106304 | Oct 08 06:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen in Africa https://t.co/p9elmy7lrs | Oct 08 06:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen in Africa | Tux Machines | Oct 08 06:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701112657981440 | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September and More Red | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hat Financial News https://t.co/ypZaA8bs58 | Oct 08 06:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September and More Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Oct 08 06:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/V4vwEVrw2e | Oct 08 06:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701114834837504 | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye | Oct 08 06:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye | Tux Machines | Oct 08 06:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784703267511083008 | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | From Linux https://t.co/n9scNZgqZ4 | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Oct 08 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away From Linux - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 08 06:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784703434834513920 | Oct 08 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LeEco Accidentally Reveals Phone, Android TV Lineup Ahead | Oct 08 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of U.S. Launch https://t.co/XxRLTduxfp (variety.com) | Oct 08 07:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LeEco to Sell Bargain-Priced Phones, Android TVs in the US (Leak) | Variety | Oct 08 07:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784703647137591296 | Oct 08 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX8 “eCockpit” SoC arrives, with media and IoT versions | Oct 08 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | coming https://t.co/OogI04e6HN (hackerboards.com) | Oct 08 07:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | i.MX8 "eCockpit" SoC arrives, with media and IoT versions coming | Oct 08 07:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784710162565259265 | Oct 08 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enlightenment's Ecore_Drm2 Library Is Working Out Well | Oct 08 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Wayland Support https://t.co/XhvM1PpA1v | Oct 08 07:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enlightenment's Ecore_Drm2 Library Is Working Out Well For Wayland Support - Phoronix | Oct 08 07:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/K3SARA/status/784709861871202304\ | Oct 08 07:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K3SARA: @schestowitz Google Chrome does the same when you sync your passwords. | Oct 08 07:09 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, an even greater evil | Oct 08 07:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784710428270223360 | Oct 08 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The Wine maintenance release 1.8.5 is now available." | Oct 08 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OJTdKeOQwh (www.winehq.org) | Oct 08 07:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine maintenance release 1.8.5 is now available. | Oct 08 07:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | SUSE Leftovers https://t.co/dnlKkd3vKw | Oct 08 07:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 08 07:37 | |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: still CLOSED WONTFIX | Oct 08 07:41 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there was a new version of that bug in 2014 that in fact got fixed. | Oct 08 08:22 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: turned out the reason why X11 had to be vt1 also linked to why systemd would lose serial terminals. | Oct 08 08:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do note I am running systemd my X11 is on vt7 I am using Nvidia drivers and I am also using LXDM and everything works perfectly these days. | Oct 08 08:29 |
| MinceR | good for you | Oct 08 08:30 |
| MinceR | until suddenly it isn't | Oct 08 08:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that particular bug is fixed. | Oct 08 08:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you are running modern enough systemd | Oct 08 08:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do not I am running testing debian. Do the same thing on stable debian strange things do come out. | Oct 08 08:31 |
| oiaohm | not/note | Oct 08 08:31 |
| MinceR | strange things will happen to you too | Oct 08 08:31 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing since version 225 most of the strangeness stopped. | Oct 08 08:34 |
| oiaohm | I am on 231 at moment. | Oct 08 08:34 |
| oiaohm | Only strangeness left is with some wm login out and finding session does not end in logind. But that is mostly due to those wm in fact leaking processes on logout. | Oct 08 08:35 |
| MinceR | the design flaws are still there | Oct 08 08:36 |
| MinceR | and the evil politics are also still there | Oct 08 08:36 |
| MinceR | debian is still a smoldering ruin | Oct 08 08:36 |
| MinceR | but some people keep going "it hasn't blown up in my face yet, so it must be perfect" | Oct 08 08:36 |
| MinceR | enjoy your reinvented windows | Oct 08 08:36 |
| MinceR | what i don't get is that if systemd people love huge opaque hairballs with atrocious designs, why don't you just run windows | Oct 08 08:37 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing quite a few of the design flaws have in fact gone by by ok not all of them but they have been reducing. | Oct 08 08:39 |
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| MinceR | so, what are the separated major components named? where are the stable APIs between them? | Oct 08 08:39 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/libsystemd/libsystemd.sym stable API between them I guess you did not look into libsystemd .so file. Yes its versioned. 221 is where you see the sd_bus appear. | Oct 08 08:46 |
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| MinceR | so what if it's versioned? there are no minor versions | Oct 08 08:49 |
| MinceR | the whole thing churns like hell | Oct 08 08:49 |
| oiaohm | That is not true. | Oct 08 08:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: look again. | Oct 08 08:49 |
| MinceR | it's amusing how you systemd people like to redefine terms like 'modular' and 'stable' to try to make this mess look good | Oct 08 08:49 |
| oiaohm | Not at all. | Oct 08 08:49 |
| oiaohm | Stable ABI only starts appearing in systemd at the first version in libsystemd | Oct 08 08:50 |
| MinceR | hell, even 'free software' was effectively redefine to accommodate ratcrap's microsoftian tactics | Oct 08 08:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so all versions of systemd with version numbers less than 209 have no stable ABI. | Oct 08 08:50 |
| oiaohm | This is why I said reducing. | Oct 08 08:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: churns like hell applies to the earlier version of systemd. Really its annoying how long it took systemd to get to building stable ABI. | Oct 08 08:53 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd bad ABI starts with a bad idea. kdbus ie get kdbus into kernel after that stabilised the interfaces. Not good logic. | Oct 08 08:56 |
| MinceR | let's not get started on bad ideas in how systemd started, that would last for a week | Oct 08 08:56 |
| oiaohm | Like for sure you don't want to be using systemd lower than 221 the interconnects between stuff in those versions are too much cross fingers and pray. | Oct 08 08:58 |
| oiaohm | But there are a lot of different Linux LTS versions release with systemd less than 221 | Oct 08 08:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also do note systemd has not double version any function so far because every time they have added a function to the ABI it has stayed absolutely the same. | Oct 08 09:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so systemd is getting something right these days. | Oct 08 09:03 |
| MinceR | yet debian and even rHELL released with earlier versions | Oct 08 09:04 |
| MinceR | systemd "stable" | Oct 08 09:04 |
| MinceR | systemd will get something right when it gets shut down and replaced with GNU again | Oct 08 09:04 |
| MinceR | not that it would restore my trust in the distros that touted it as "stable" | Oct 08 09:05 |
| oiaohm | The problem here is sysvinit and upstart before system are both broken. | Oct 08 09:06 |
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| MinceR | the problem here is that you're still pretending that systemd is just an init system | Oct 08 09:06 |
| MinceR | and that sysvinit and upstart are just as broken as systemd | Oct 08 09:07 |
| MinceR | and that other init systems don't even exist | Oct 08 09:07 |
| oiaohm | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I this guy and others tried all the different init systems before going systemd or writing soletta because everything was technically broken. | Oct 08 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 08 09:09 | |
| oiaohm | What is the problem for years debian, redhat everyone just kept on using sysvinit or other imported init systems from Unix. Linux kernel does a lot of things that is not Unix like at all. | Oct 08 09:10 |
| MinceR | again, implying that systemd is not broken | Oct 08 09:11 |
| MinceR | despite all evidence | Oct 08 09:11 |
| oiaohm | systemd turns out to be less broken. | Oct 08 09:11 |
| MinceR | in your dreams, maybe | Oct 08 09:11 |
| oiaohm | Not in my dreams. | Oct 08 09:11 |
| MinceR | you never studied software engineering, have you? | Oct 08 09:11 |
| oiaohm | In fact I have. | Oct 08 09:11 |
| MinceR | and you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc? | Oct 08 09:12 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: like that minor ddos flaw that crashes a system | Oct 08 09:12 |
| XFaCE | "minor" | Oct 08 09:12 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 09:12 |
| MinceR | not distributed though | Oct 08 09:12 |
| MinceR | if you mean the notify thing | Oct 08 09:12 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: in which a systemd developer demonstrated ignorance | Oct 08 09:12 |
| XFaCE | sever ignorance | Oct 08 09:12 |
| MinceR | all it takes is 1 unprivileged user | Oct 08 09:12 |
| XFaCE | *severe | Oct 08 09:12 |
| oiaohm | In fact no. | Oct 08 09:12 |
| XFaCE | yep | Oct 08 09:12 |
| MinceR | 08 151201 < MinceR> and you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc? | Oct 08 09:12 |
| XFaCE | but it was fixed, so this "minor" flaw is acceptable | Oct 08 09:12 |
| oiaohm | The reported dos required systemd built with debugging. | Oct 08 09:12 |
| MinceR | you know, things an init system is supposed to do | Oct 08 09:12 |
| MinceR | not run a web server as root in pid1, and shit like that | Oct 08 09:13 |
| XFaCE | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/systemd_is_not_magic_security_dust | Oct 08 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust [ http://ur1.ca/pu924 ] | Oct 08 09:13 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd does not run a web server as pid1 | Oct 08 09:13 |
| MinceR | oh, it doesn't? | Oct 08 09:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: never has. | Oct 08 09:13 |
| MinceR | that's a relief | Oct 08 09:13 |
| MinceR | then it just does a dozen other things as root in pid1 | Oct 08 09:13 |
| MinceR | like parsing untrusted input | Oct 08 09:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd is a multi process thing if a web server is kicked up it is it own pid. | Oct 08 09:14 |
| MinceR | and communicating on the network | Oct 08 09:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, except when it is not | Oct 08 09:14 |
| oiaohm | No communicating on network is not in pid. | Oct 08 09:14 |
| oiaohm | opps pid1 | Oct 08 09:14 |
| MinceR | not even the one that brings up a random container on your machine? | Oct 08 09:14 |
| oiaohm | Lots and lots of things people claim are in systemd pid1 are not. | Oct 08 09:14 |
| MinceR | (because obviously an "init system" must do that too) | Oct 08 09:14 |
| MinceR | lots of things still are in pid1, though | Oct 08 09:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: container importing that is no pid1 never has been. | Oct 08 09:15 |
| MinceR | i suppose you're also ignoring the vulnerabilities its dns resolver adds to the system | Oct 08 09:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: dns resolver of systemd is it own process and can be disabled and does support processing dnssec where glibc default does not. | Oct 08 09:16 |
| MinceR | does dnssec help with its severe vulnerabilities? | Oct 08 09:16 |
| MinceR | good to hear there's one thing you can disable in that hairball though | Oct 08 09:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: dnssec makes it harder to spoof dns entries. | Oct 08 09:16 |
| MinceR | unlike the part that fucks up your system logs | Oct 08 09:16 |
| MinceR | ah, so you're ignoring the issues | Oct 08 09:17 |
| MinceR | classic cognitive dissonance | Oct 08 09:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I < do watch and see how much of systemd he manages to turn off. | Oct 08 09:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 08 09:17 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: he even turns off to shock horror journald completely. | Oct 08 09:18 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: " Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients."" | Oct 08 09:18 |
| MinceR | watch how much of systemd i can turn off | Oct 08 09:18 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: systemd-free.org :) | Oct 08 09:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: turns out systemd will fall back to using old school logging if journald is removed. | Oct 08 09:18 |
| MinceR | (hint: all of it) | Oct 08 09:18 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: schestowitz https://davmac.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/why-do-we-keep-building-rotten-foundations/ | Oct 08 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-davmac.wordpress.com | Why do we keep building rotten foundations? – Software is Crap [ http://ur1.ca/puzcd ] | Oct 08 09:19 | |
| XFaCE | "The new release of Gtk is going to be fully parallel-installable with the old one. Gtk 4 and Gtk 3 will install alongside each other in exactly the same way as Gtk 2 and Gtk 3 — separate library name, separate pkg-config name, separate header directory. You will be able to have a system that has development headers and libraries installed for each of Gtk 2, 3, 4 and 5, if you want to do that." | Oct 08 09:20 |
| XFaCE | "Meanwhile, Gtk 4.0 will not be the final stable API of what we would call “Gtk 4”. Each 6 months, the new release (Gtk 4.2, Gtk 4.4, Gtk 4.6) will break API and ABI vs. the release that came before it." | Oct 08 09:20 |
| XFaCE | "We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system" | Oct 08 09:20 |
| MinceR | i wonder if anyone other than gnome will want to use that crap | Oct 08 09:21 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I wonder how long until they rename it libgnome | Oct 08 09:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 08 09:22 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Gnome runtime? XD | Oct 08 09:22 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: the DBUS API for DNS resolution is due to the horrible reality DNS normal protocol is not design to cope with a case where you have DNS entries with and without DNSSEC at the same time. | Oct 08 09:22 |
| MinceR | lendows internal library #4324 | Oct 08 09:22 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: Ie no space in protocol to send mess yes we got X resolve but its insecure. | Oct 08 09:23 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, that would be impossible to do with a function call to a library | Oct 08 09:23 |
| MinceR | it's not like you can just add parameters | Oct 08 09:23 |
| MinceR | or use structs to pass parameters or receive results in | Oct 08 09:23 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Talking around I've learned that DBUS could have been implemented using the existing TIPC support in the Linux kernel | Oct 08 09:24 |
| XFaCE | and better too | Oct 08 09:24 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 09:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the library defines that need to be updated is for libc posix standard and gnu c have defined the library DNS functions. | Oct 08 09:25 |
| MinceR | too bad "better" is not how lendows people function | Oct 08 09:25 |
| XFaCE | but that would violate the "not invented here" doctrine | Oct 08 09:25 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 08 09:25 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, it's impossible to add another library or another function | Oct 08 09:25 |
| MinceR | which is why gtk also doesn't exist | Oct 08 09:25 |
| MinceR | and neither does libsystemd | Oct 08 09:25 |
| XFaCE | or or lib.* | Oct 08 09:26 |
| XFaCE | /lib.* | Oct 08 09:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: then you will complain about applications have a solid systemd dependancy. | Oct 08 09:27 |
| MinceR | no | Oct 08 09:27 |
| MinceR | this dbus fuckage is what generates a solid systemd dependency | Oct 08 09:27 |
| XFaCE | of course, there isn't a huge incentive by the sysd people to have those | Oct 08 09:27 |
| XFaCE | cough | Oct 08 09:27 |
| XFaCE | "We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system" | Oct 08 09:27 |
| XFaCE | oops | Oct 08 09:28 |
| MinceR | because only systemd is stupid enough to use dbus for things that don't need dbus and are actually more fragile with dbus | Oct 08 09:28 |
| XFaCE | " Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients." | Oct 08 09:28 |
| MinceR | remember, dbus is "designed" to require a reboot to be restarted | Oct 08 09:28 |
| MinceR | and yet we're supposed to use that crap on servers and workstations | Oct 08 09:28 |
| oiaohm | dbus was design to be posix netural in the first place leading to it not using stuff like TIPC. | Oct 08 09:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: here's another thing that should have been obvious: it's possible to implement a DNS resolver library as an independent project | Oct 08 09:29 |
| MinceR | it doesn't have to be part of systemd | Oct 08 09:29 |
| XFaCE | oiaohm: lol of course | Oct 08 09:29 |
| XFaCE | let's not use an existing STANDARD protocol | Oct 08 09:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the standard DNS resolver library format need to be updated for DNSSEC | Oct 08 09:29 |
| XFaCE | "Dual BSD/GPL licensed code" - TIPC feature | Oct 08 09:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the bit in the libc standard defines. | Oct 08 09:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: a few moments ago you said it was impossible | Oct 08 09:29 |
| MinceR | make up your mind already | Oct 08 09:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: currently impossible because those guys are stuck in a 3 year aguement so far about how in hell it should be implemented. | Oct 08 09:30 |
| MinceR | "posix neutral" as in "If developers don't force themselves into the constraints of the POSIX API, they could develop some really innovative software, like systemd shows." | Oct 08 09:30 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: well, if you don't want to understand what i'm telling you, then don't | Oct 08 09:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: DNS resolver library standard has not been updated for DNSSEC. systemd developers wasted 2 years attempting to get it updated before going the dbus route. | Oct 08 09:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lets just say that one problem leaded to a meg out of control cat fight in the old UNIX camp. | Oct 08 09:33 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Given the Gnome devs behaviour on Transmission, I'm gonna guess they went on the issue tracker and demanded rudely that their demands come first | Oct 08 09:33 |
| oiaohm | Not everything systemd does is their fault some cases there are some really stupid things going on. | Oct 08 09:35 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, because coming up with a new dbus call is somehow more acceptable than coming up with a new library call | Oct 08 09:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the arguement is currently 42 new library calls. | Oct 08 09:35 |
| MinceR | yes, stupid things like letting poettering design anything | Oct 08 09:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you cover all the random crap they are implementing. | Oct 08 09:35 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Coming up with dbus from scratch is more acceptable than using an existing standard protocol | Oct 08 09:35 |
| XFaCE | ofc | Oct 08 09:36 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: gnome always comes first, apparently | Oct 08 09:36 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: they tried the standard protocol way first only to find you have 42+ different ways to implement it all ready. | Oct 08 09:36 |
| MinceR | it's more important than other people's servers or my workstations | Oct 08 09:36 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: all incompadible. | Oct 08 09:36 |
| MinceR | and instead if picking one or coming up with their own, they made it depend on the toy known as dbus | Oct 08 09:37 |
| MinceR | lendows logic | Oct 08 09:37 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: dbus way at least you can put a wrapper on it. | Oct 08 09:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's impossible to wrap c functions | Oct 08 09:37 |
| XFaCE | a turd wrapped in gold is still a turd | Oct 08 09:37 |
| MinceR | which is why nobody ever did it | Oct 08 09:37 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: I am not saying it not a turd. | Oct 08 09:37 |
| MinceR | yes you are | Oct 08 09:37 |
| MinceR | in so many words | Oct 08 09:37 |
| oiaohm | But its a turd formed because of a very much bigger turd. | Oct 08 09:37 |
| MinceR | in so many turds | Oct 08 09:38 |
| XFaCE | "Sure Windows is poorly conceived, but that's only cause of OS/2!" | Oct 08 09:38 |
| oiaohm | I really wish a proper dns resolver spec with dnssec mixed with non dnssec support would become agreed on then killing the systemd dbus stuff would be possible. | Oct 08 09:39 |
| XFaCE | aha, the "Windows has games" argument | Oct 08 09:40 |
| MinceR | yeah, because killing systemd lock-in is so easy | Oct 08 09:40 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Yeah, it's not like there are developers intentionally crippling certain alternatives too? | Oct 08 09:41 |
| XFaCE | *cough*Gentoo*cough* | Oct 08 09:41 |
| XFaCE | *cough*OpenRC*cough* | Oct 08 09:41 |
| XFaCE | thank goodness for Runit | Oct 08 09:42 |
| MinceR | yeah, nobody ever said things like "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call." | Oct 08 09:42 |
| oiaohm | soletta that is not systemd processes systemd unit files. | Oct 08 09:42 |
| MinceR | so it's garbage, like systemd | Oct 08 09:42 |
| MinceR | does it also silently ignore changes in unit files if the changes are incorrect, like systemd does? | Oct 08 09:42 |
| MinceR | also, soletta is for IoT, which i don't care for | Oct 08 09:43 |
| MinceR | at least until IoT zombies start DDoSing stuff i use | Oct 08 09:43 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: or the next president declares a cyberwar | Oct 08 09:43 |
| MinceR | why declare wars anymore, it's so much easier to just do what you want | Oct 08 09:43 |
| oiaohm | soletta is designed for iot so as compact as possible. Soletta does not ignore errors in unit files. | Oct 08 09:43 |
| MinceR | ignoring citizens and keeping everyone in the dark | Oct 08 09:43 |
| oiaohm | systemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider. | Oct 08 09:44 |
| MinceR | and soletta is modeled after systemd, making it the ideal target for IoT exploits | Oct 08 09:44 |
| MinceR | yeah, you can replace it with a fork of itself | Oct 08 09:44 |
| MinceR | or with a different implementation of the same braindead toxic design | Oct 08 09:44 |
| oiaohm | There is no systemd code in soletta | Oct 08 09:44 |
| XFaCE | oh it's replaceable - but by something completely incompatible | Oct 08 09:44 |
| XFaCE | which is a good thing fortunately | Oct 08 09:45 |
| MinceR | all i ever dreamed of doing is reimplementing some idiot's broken dbus APIs for the sake of compatibility | Oct 08 09:45 |
| MinceR | (and remember, dbus is garbage) | Oct 08 09:45 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: It | Oct 08 09:45 |
| XFaCE | It's like being a wine developer | Oct 08 09:45 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 08 09:46 |
| XFaCE | minus any appeal whatsoever | Oct 08 09:46 |
| MinceR | but since ratcrap is not called microsoft, they get a free pass | Oct 08 09:46 |
| MinceR | even from people who noticed the wrongdoings when m$ did them | Oct 08 09:46 |
| MinceR | i'm looking at you, Gratis Windows Foundation | Oct 08 09:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: soletta no dbus. | Oct 08 09:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: nah, those same people are now clapping over new Microsoft and the Linux subsystem | Oct 08 09:46 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 09:47 |
| XFaCE | "new" | Oct 08 09:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so how will soletta replace systemd? | Oct 08 09:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how will it satisfy the demands of gnome looking for systemd-timedated and systemd-hostnamed? | Oct 08 09:47 |
| oiaohm | I did not say soletta will in it current form be able to replace it all. Compared to attempting to transfer shell scripts between init systems vs unit files it turns out unit files are fairly bug free. | Oct 08 09:50 |
| MinceR | 08 154407 < oiaohm> systemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider. | Oct 08 09:50 |
| MinceR | looks like systemd is a lot less replaceable than you considered. | Oct 08 09:50 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: nah, the uselessd developer was just lazy | Oct 08 09:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: have you ever seen bsd rc files? | Oct 08 09:50 |
| XFaCE | amirite | Oct 08 09:50 |
| MinceR | uselessd was just a pointless fork | Oct 08 09:51 |
| MinceR | removing random bits from systemd won't fix the underlying severe design flaws | Oct 08 09:51 |
| MinceR | and neither will it fix the cult's behavior | Oct 08 09:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bsd rc files are a lot more common sense than sysvinit have been. | Oct 08 09:51 |
| XFaCE | ok, I agree oiaohm | Oct 08 09:51 |
| XFaCE | then why didn't we switch to OpenRC instead? | Oct 08 09:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, debian's and redhat's rc files being complex is not sysvinit's fault | Oct 08 09:51 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: because we're pretending openrc doesn't exist | Oct 08 09:52 |
| XFaCE | or runit | Oct 08 09:52 |
| MinceR | it's far more to justify forcing everyone to systemd if we pretend only sysvinit and systemd exist | Oct 08 09:52 |
| XFaCE | it's sysVinit or nothing | Oct 08 09:52 |
| XFaCE | NOTHING | Oct 08 09:52 |
| MinceR | s/more/easier/ | Oct 08 09:52 |
| oiaohm | Openrc even today still has more crashing faults than the first systemd. | Oct 08 09:52 |
| oiaohm | So basically not ready. | Oct 08 09:52 |
| MinceR | good, you can replace it | Oct 08 09:52 |
| XFaCE | actually, it's stable, unless you count post 0.13 versions | Oct 08 09:52 |
| MinceR | systemd is not ready either | Oct 08 09:52 |
| MinceR | did that stop the cultists? | Oct 08 09:52 |
| XFaCE | whereby a systemd developer has basically been sabotaging it | Oct 08 09:53 |
| MinceR | when will they get rid of that asshole? | Oct 08 09:53 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: hard to say, he's entrenched and knows how to play the bureaucratic game | Oct 08 09:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: to be correct sysvinit is based on faultly logic that a process id will never be reused leading to hacks around that. | Oct 08 09:53 |
| MinceR | can he also affect funtoo and other forks or only gentoo? | Oct 08 09:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: fortunately forks are already in progress, and Funtoo exists as an alternative | Oct 08 09:54 |
| XFaCE | only gentoo | Oct 08 09:54 |
| XFaCE | funtoo stopped at version 0.12 | Oct 08 09:54 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: still far less faulty in practice than systemd relying on a system they themselves admit does not work reliably | Oct 08 09:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: in other words, they saw the writing | Oct 08 09:54 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: i see | Oct 08 09:54 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown? | Oct 08 09:55 |
| MinceR | s/sed/ses/ | Oct 08 09:55 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: even so, there's always runit | Oct 08 09:56 |
| oiaohm | oiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown? that was fixed in 220 | Oct 08 09:56 |
| XFaCE | Void Linux uses it | Oct 08 09:57 |
| MinceR | that's great | Oct 08 09:57 |
| MinceR | too bad enterprise clients got sold 219 | Oct 08 09:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ubuntu and redhat backported the patch. | Oct 08 09:57 |
| MinceR | even in rHELL 7.2 | Oct 08 09:57 |
| oiaohm | In updates. | Oct 08 09:58 |
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| MinceR | ah, so that's the new "stable" release | Oct 08 09:58 |
| MinceR | it doesn't work at all, but don't worry, we'll fix it eventually | Oct 08 09:58 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: like the GTK framework :P | Oct 08 09:59 |
| MinceR | if your business critical stuff fails in the meantime, that's just too fucking bad | Oct 08 09:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Linux 3.8.0? | Oct 08 09:59 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: systemd 219, rHELL 7.2 | Oct 08 09:59 |
| XRevan86 | 4* | Oct 08 09:59 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i thought linux stopped making stable releases long ago | Oct 08 09:59 |
| XRevan86 | https://kernel.org/ | Oct 08 10:00 |
| XRevan86 | > stable: 4.8.1, 4.7.7 | Oct 08 10:00 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: remember, sysvinit could shut down systems reliably, with SIGTERM, pause, SIGKILL | Oct 08 10:00 |
| MinceR | for decades. | Oct 08 10:00 |
| MinceR | but i guess that's just not "modern" enough | Oct 08 10:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no sysvinit had the other problem where at times the system would not shutdown at all. | Oct 08 10:00 |
| MinceR | yeah, systemd had that too | Oct 08 10:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: they fixed that with over killing. | Oct 08 10:01 |
| XRevan86 | systemd has a watchdog which waits for a while, then shutdowns eventually. | Oct 08 10:01 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit does not have a critical watchdog. | Oct 08 10:01 |
| XRevan86 | so the point of shutting down is always eventually achieved | Oct 08 10:01 |
| MinceR | yeah, just your stuff doesn't get to save its state | Oct 08 10:02 |
| MinceR | like shell history | Oct 08 10:02 |
| MinceR | but who needs that | Oct 08 10:02 |
| MinceR | yanking the power cord out is the new "modern" | Oct 08 10:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yanking the power cord was kind of the jammed sysvinit solution. | Oct 08 10:02 |
| XRevan86 | if bash won't shutdown for 10 minutes, I doubt shell history will be lost because of the watchdog %) | Oct 08 10:02 |
| MinceR | again, if i wanted to run an OS that can't do anything reliably, i'd just run the winblows i was forced to buy along with my hardware. | Oct 08 10:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and hoping your discs were properly flushed. | Oct 08 10:03 |
| XFaCE | [10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern" | Oct 08 10:03 |
| XFaCE | MS DOS :P | Oct 08 10:03 |
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| MinceR | or you could use magic sysrq | Oct 08 10:03 |
| MinceR | except... | Oct 08 10:03 |
| MinceR | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/12/21/1554227 | Oct 08 10:03 |
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| cubexyz | I don't remember seeing any problem with sysvinit on Xenix or Linux | Oct 08 10:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: magic syqrg does not promise disc flushing either. | Oct 08 10:03 |
| XRevan86 | watchdog is per-service | Oct 08 10:03 |
| XFaCE | [10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern" | Oct 08 10:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at least it lets you tell the system to sync everything and unmount everything | Oct 08 10:04 |
| XFaCE | the new modern is installing stuff in virtual containers and when it breaks just rebooting or replacing said VM | Oct 08 10:04 |
| XFaCE | who care about long-term reliability | Oct 08 10:04 |
| MinceR | i do | Oct 08 10:04 |
| MinceR | but then, i'm not running lendows | Oct 08 10:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you need some badly behaved items loaded to have shutdown issues on Xenix but it possible. | Oct 08 10:04 |
| MinceR | and i don't buy into the "VMs will fix all our problems" religion either | Oct 08 10:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, badly behaved items do that on linux too -- like systemd | Oct 08 10:05 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: it won't fix them, but it will obfuscate around them nicely | Oct 08 10:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 08 10:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I locked a Xenix up with a 2 scripts where every time one died the other started a new copy. | Oct 08 10:06 |
| MinceR | and add some more problems | Oct 08 10:06 |
| MinceR | and help hw sales | Oct 08 10:06 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, which version of Xenix? Or was it Unix SysV? | Oct 08 10:06 |
| cubexyz | btw I've been running Linux Sysvinit (FC1) since 2004 | Oct 08 10:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: System V.2.3.4 the 1991 of Xenix | Oct 08 10:08 |
| cubexyz | if you really don't like sysvinit why not run one of the BSDs? | Oct 08 10:08 |
| cubexyz | for server... | Oct 08 10:09 |
| XRevan86 | daemontools is the worst | Oct 08 10:09 |
| MinceR | he'd rather run windows | Oct 08 10:09 |
| MinceR | but can only afford the closest gratis thing, systemd | Oct 08 10:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I hate windows way more than I hate sysvinit. | Oct 08 10:10 |
| cubexyz | I have a server that does automatic shutdowns when the UPS loses power | Oct 08 10:10 |
| cubexyz | no problems... | Oct 08 10:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: but you like svchost, don't you? | Oct 08 10:10 |
| cubexyz | and I have 12 years of experience with it | Oct 08 10:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: svchost great way to hide a virus. | Oct 08 10:10 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i had that too, until the machine decided it won't talk to my ups anymore | Oct 08 10:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: exactly | Oct 08 10:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: same thing is true for systemd | Oct 08 10:10 |
| oiaohm | No systemd in fact has proper reporting of what is contained. | Oct 08 10:11 |
| MinceR | sure | Oct 08 10:11 |
| oiaohm | svchost you can have it completely lie. | Oct 08 10:11 |
| MinceR | did it properly report all the unchecked null dereferences too? | Oct 08 10:11 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, I assume you were using apcupsd? | Oct 08 10:11 |
| oiaohm | Windows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call. | Oct 08 10:11 |
| MinceR | i'm using nut | Oct 08 10:11 |
| MinceR | i have an eaton ups | Oct 08 10:12 |
| cubexyz | you can reload the USB sub-system I think' | Oct 08 10:12 |
| cubexyz | if it stops communicating | Oct 08 10:12 |
| MinceR | i guess the next reboot will fix it... | Oct 08 10:12 |
| MinceR | even lsusb hangs | Oct 08 10:12 |
| MinceR | and i can't even kill it with ^C | Oct 08 10:12 |
| MinceR | 08 161155 < oiaohm> Windows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call. | Oct 08 10:13 |
| MinceR | of course it did | Oct 08 10:13 |
| MinceR | they come from the same culture | Oct 08 10:13 |
| MinceR | and have the same underlying idea | Oct 08 10:14 |
| cubexyz | I would try reloading usb-storage, but maybe your system is different | Oct 08 10:14 |
| oiaohm | daemontools + sysvinit was a great way to let lose hell. | Oct 08 10:14 |
| cubexyz | rmmod usb-storage then insmod usb-storage fixed some issues for me | Oct 08 10:14 |
| MinceR | if i ping timeout, it didn't :> | Oct 08 10:14 |
| cubexyz | also some external usb hard drives should be avoided | Oct 08 10:15 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: examples? | Oct 08 10:15 |
| MinceR | nope, not even loaded here | Oct 08 10:15 |
| MinceR | there are no usb devices plugged into the server other than the ups | Oct 08 10:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no systemd is more GNU culture of badly copy Unix world stuff. I have told you before the unix world stuff they were attempting to copy. | Oct 08 10:15 |
| cubexyz | XFaCE, any really el cheapo chinese ones | Oct 08 10:15 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which unix world stuff does stuffing several unrelated services in the same process? | Oct 08 10:15 |
| cubexyz | I think WD one of the better ones | Oct 08 10:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: X11 | Oct 08 10:16 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: show me a windowing system that is more modular than X11. | Oct 08 10:16 |
| cubexyz | anyways my only shutdowns have happened when the utility power fails for longer periods of time | Oct 08 10:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there are so many windows systems truly more modular not bound to a single event loop for decades. | Oct 08 10:17 |
| cubexyz | also I made some reliability improvements to FC1 and I understand it pretty well | Oct 08 10:18 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which of them do properly separate out the window manager and the widget toolkit? | Oct 08 10:18 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, your Linux is probably significantly different from my FC1 server | Oct 08 10:18 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 10:18 |
| cubexyz | a lot of stuff has changed since then | Oct 08 10:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: system in fact fires off a lot of processes. So does not really stuff unrelated stuff into the same process. | Oct 08 10:19 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: non sequitur | Oct 08 10:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: X11 core server until recently had input and 2d rendering in the same thread. This is why when X11 server starts rendering hard input would freese. | Oct 08 10:19 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure the job of init, rc, udev, [x]inetd, crond and atd are still in pid1 | Oct 08 10:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: only one out if that list is in fact in systemd pid1. | Oct 08 10:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: other windowing systems tend to build the window manager and the widget toolkit into the display server. far less modular, far less flexible. | Oct 08 10:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: [citation needed] | Oct 08 10:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of those things are fired off by the PID1 but not in the PID1. | Oct 08 10:21 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: [citation needed] | Oct 08 10:21 |
| oiaohm | systemd-udevd.service << this is because udevd is a service in it own right with its own pid. | Oct 08 10:22 |
| MinceR | right, so that's udev | Oct 08 10:22 |
| MinceR | what about the others? | Oct 08 10:22 |
| cubexyz | xchat and X itself used the most CPU time | Oct 08 10:22 |
| cubexyz | not httpd | Oct 08 10:22 |
| cubexyz | significantly more | Oct 08 10:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you will find inetd, crond and atd stuff are all services under systemd in own right. | Oct 08 10:23 |
| MinceR | what are they called? | Oct 08 10:23 |
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| MinceR | not only did systemd take over the job of crond, it even broke crond with cgroups cargo culting | Oct 08 10:27 |
| cubexyz | if you really wanted to be strict you could run your server without X running | Oct 08 10:28 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, did your 1991 Xenix have internet running? | Oct 08 10:29 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/uh2-2.jpg | Oct 08 10:29 |
| cubexyz | wow, 2.3.4 is pretty old | Oct 08 10:30 |
| cubexyz | don't think my Xenix ever had TCP/IP | Oct 08 10:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Xenix was something stand alone monoring stuff. | Oct 08 10:31 |
| cubexyz | I think sysv stuff started around 1983 so it's been around for a long time | Oct 08 10:33 |
| cubexyz | solaris was a SVR4 derivative | Oct 08 10:34 |
| cubexyz | Sun went from BSD derived to SVR4 derived | Oct 08 10:35 |
| cubexyz | I sure don't remember people talking about sysvinit problems back then | Oct 08 10:36 |
| cubexyz | heck, a driver bug could bring down the system in any case | Oct 08 10:38 |
| cubexyz | or resource exhaustion | Oct 08 10:39 |
| cubexyz | or hardware failure | Oct 08 10:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: resource exhaustion happened lot when restarting services losing still running processes. | Oct 08 10:39 |
| oiaohm | Lets just say sysvinit failure to track was not being linked back to sysvinit. Instead lets attempt to replace X service with Y service and hope it don't leak. | Oct 08 10:40 |
| cubexyz | doesn't the OOM killer supposed to fix that in Linux? | Oct 08 10:40 |
| oiaohm | OOM killer can still cause data loss. | Oct 08 10:41 |
| cubexyz | true | Oct 08 10:41 |
| cubexyz | well you need a good operator watching things | Oct 08 10:41 |
| oiaohm | So you don't want to be hitting resourse exhaustion becuase you have been restarting a service and it has not been restarting cleanly. | Oct 08 10:41 |
| oiaohm | We have need something better than sysvinit for some time. | Oct 08 10:42 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: also remember you don't want to be paying a operator to watch stuff 24/7. This is where being able to set proper limits on services come in. | Oct 08 10:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: catch you around. | Oct 08 10:44 |
| cubexyz | later :) | Oct 08 10:44 |
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| cubexyz | nowadays the Linux processes have /proc/some_PID/oom_score | Oct 08 10:46 |
| cubexyz | anyways, I know how FC1 does things so I'm usually not surprised | Oct 08 10:47 |
| cubexyz | hackers are always trying new tricks though | Oct 08 10:47 |
| cubexyz | I think the IBM mainframes do a better job of watchdogging things | Oct 08 10:49 |
| cubexyz | for one thing.. the hardware is a lot more redundant | Oct 08 10:51 |
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| cubexyz | also a mainframe probably does have a 24/7 operator | Oct 08 10:52 |
| cubexyz | we even did for PDP-10s | Oct 08 10:52 |
| cubexyz | the mainframe OS might even be _smaller_ than the PC version | Oct 08 10:53 |
| cubexyz | there's no GUI stuff in there | Oct 08 10:53 |
| cubexyz | I should try running linux on S390 sometime | Oct 08 11:00 |
| cubexyz | there's a couple of things I'm curious about | Oct 08 11:00 |
| cubexyz | there's even a Gentoo for IBM Z systems | Oct 08 11:01 |
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| XFaCE | cubexyz: I have used Z/OS before | Oct 08 11:10 |
| XFaCE | the GUI is... refreshing primitive :P | Oct 08 11:10 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/784805517122236416 | Oct 08 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz You mean you'd like to be buried at sea or actually be minced & sold as feed to a salmon waterfarm? ;-) | Oct 08 13:22 | |
| schestowitz | The latter would profit for me, so no, the former | Oct 08 13:22 |
| schestowitz | The latter would profit from me, so no, the former | Oct 08 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784799523289772032 | Oct 08 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Frameworks 5.27 Released for Plasma 5.8 with New MIME | Oct 08 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Types Icons, Bug Fixes https://t.co/qiveNHK7Vm | Oct 08 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 08 14:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.27 Released for Plasma 5.8 with New MIME Types Icons, Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Frameworks 5.27 Released for Plasma 5.8 with...' | Oct 08 14:05 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/a/YUNgz | Oct 08 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super accurated cosplays you can't believe they could exist. - Album on Imgur | Oct 08 14:27 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/ysCcDnS | Oct 08 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My phone wanted to make a call and connect to the mall wifi at the same time on the same screen. - Imgur | Oct 08 16:09 | |
| cubexyz | ah a pity, discovered another part of Unix v5 is missing: spline | Oct 08 16:25 |
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| cubexyz | wow, did Unix v5 cc use extern or not | Oct 08 16:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, yes it did... so there's a change that the v5 version of cc could compile Unix v6 spline.c | Oct 08 16:29 |
| cubexyz | ok, this is one complex chunk of code | Oct 08 16:34 |
| cubexyz | if this works, it will be the most complex program recompiled for v5 | Oct 08 16:35 |
| cubexyz | v6 and v5 spline.c could be the same, I don't have any way of knowing | Oct 08 16:35 |
| cubexyz | bah | Oct 08 16:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @inet_solutions favourited 'Ghost Blogging With a Pi https://t.co/39xdL7oZnA' | Oct 08 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Ghost Blogging With a Pi | FOSS Force | Oct 08 16:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20...' | Oct 08 16:56 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Nothing seems to be raising Lenovo's stock price for very long. | Oct 08 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | The Linux news goes out, it drops from $5.24 HKD to $5.09. They announce the Motorola layoffs, it bounces back for a few days, then goes back down. They announce they're acquiring Fujitsu's PC business, same thing. | Oct 08 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | It seems to be finding its support around 5.14-5.20 HKD | Oct 08 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/ | Oct 08 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo won't make Windows 10 phones due to Microsoft's commitment issues | Oct 08 17:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Someone asked why it would be an issue since "Windows 10 is the same OS on every device.". | Oct 08 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Not true. Those phones require customization by the OEM. | Oct 08 17:39 |
| MinceR | there's no customization that would make Backdoors10 not shit | Oct 08 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I mean to get it running on each device. | Oct 08 17:40 |
| MinceR | my condolences | Oct 08 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | There's a reason they can't offer hundreds of phones running Windows 10. They would run into the same problem you get with Android. | Oct 08 17:40 |
| MinceR | which "problem", diversity? | Oct 08 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Apple has to support a handful of phones. Android OEMs have to customize the firmware for each device. | Oct 08 17:41 |
| MinceR | or that there are few devices that aren't shit? | Oct 08 17:41 |
| MinceR | yeah, all of crApple's devices are garbage | Oct 08 17:41 |
| MinceR | and so is the OS running on them | Oct 08 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Intel had a plan to make phones where the same Android image would run on all of them. | Oct 08 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | They backed out though, so we have to deal with this ARM mess some more. | Oct 08 17:42 |
| MinceR | ah, ARM being a total mess is the problem | Oct 08 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | The SoCs are all very different. | Oct 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to have Intel smartphones. It would help the OEMs keep Android more current. | Oct 08 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | Too much porting work. OEMs already don't want to support their older hardware. This just gives them something else to blame. | Oct 08 17:46 |
| MinceR | too bad intel sucks at power consumption | Oct 08 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's not as bad as it used to be. There were a ton of unbelievably shitty Android phones running Gingerbread that went on for way too long. | Oct 08 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Not their current stuff. | Oct 08 17:47 |
| MinceR | so why isn't it in phones? | Oct 08 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not entirely certain. | Oct 08 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of these flagship phones running ARM SoCs get shit battery life. | Oct 08 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | Like the Galaxy S6. | Oct 08 17:48 |
| MinceR | it seems samsung got rid of the people who knew how to design phones | Oct 08 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | There have been numerous software updates for my phone, it still goes 100-0 in like 5-6 hours of actual use. | Oct 08 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | This is one of the worst phones I have ever owned. | Oct 08 17:49 |
| MinceR | they used to make a galaxy s5 which had a removable battery, memory card slot and was waterproof | Oct 08 17:49 |
| MinceR | now all they make are hypePhone-imitating timebombs | Oct 08 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | John's S6 Edge cracked for no reason. | Oct 08 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | It was fine when he put it on the table and the next morning, the screen was cracked. | Oct 08 17:50 |
| MinceR | though maybe if they looked hard, they could find material for backplates that are even less fit for the purpose | Oct 08 17:50 |
| MinceR | say, uranium | Oct 08 17:50 |
| MinceR | or mercury | Oct 08 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm trading in my S6 as soon as I can. | Oct 08 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's a lease, so I'm going to drop by Best Buy and turn it in the day the lease expires. | Oct 08 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | I have about 10 months to go. | Oct 08 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | The next phone must have Micro SD slot, removable battery, and stock Android without bloatware. | Oct 08 17:51 |
| MinceR | do such phones even exist? | Oct 08 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, 5-6 hours is unacceptable, but it was worse. | Oct 08 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint and Samsung packed my phone full of battery killing crapware. | Oct 08 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | Onedrive drains your power even if you never set up an account. | Oct 08 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | It keeps heckling you until you disable it. | Oct 08 17:52 |
| MinceR | can you use unlocked phones in the usa? | Oct 08 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | And Sprint loaded Lookout, a horrible antivirus program that wastes power scanning every file and app. | Oct 08 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You can, if you want to buy it for full price. | Oct 08 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint gave me a package deal that includes unlimited LTE data and unlimited calls and texts, and the phone is basically waived from the price of the plan. | Oct 08 17:54 |
| MinceR | that would get rid of the carrier's bloatware | Oct 08 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | They were really pushing the lease hard so that's why I got the S6. It was basically that or an iPhone. | Oct 08 17:54 |
| MinceR | ew | Oct 08 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've been working around the shit battery life on the S6 by carrying a power bank around with me. | Oct 08 17:55 |
| MinceR | maybe they could try making phone casings out of radioactive gallium isotopes | Oct 08 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung phones have really been going downhill since the S6 came out. | Oct 08 17:56 |
| MinceR | and before | Oct 08 17:57 |
| cubexyz | backdoors10 not shit == impossible | Oct 08 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/ | Oct 08 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : Lenovo | Oct 08 18:11 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point 4 days ago | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Failure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold. | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | "Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo." | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | [...] | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Sorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason: | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2 | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Error:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program. | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveeditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | [–]PlsAnswer19836 [S] 1 point 1 day ago | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | What do you mean? | Oct 08 18:12 |
| MinceR | http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1054.html | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Oct 08 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.giantitp.com | Giant In the Playground Games [ http://ur1.ca/pv1ox ] | Oct 08 18:12 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | I mean that they won't give you a recovery stick in case Windows gets hosed and your OneKey Recovery doesn't work. | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | That basically guarantees that eventually, many people will have to ship their laptop to Lenovo and hope they get it back sometime before the sun flash boils the oceans and then engulfs the inner planets. :) | Oct 08 18:12 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think I'll give the Yoga a miss | Oct 08 18:12 |
| cubexyz | just a hunch | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | The hardware is pretty nice. | Oct 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's this damned BIOS that ruins it. | Oct 08 18:13 |
| MinceR | i'll keep staying away from non-thinkpad lenovos | Oct 08 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | You can't do anything except use Windows 10 with it. | Oct 08 18:13 |
| MinceR | as i always did :> | Oct 08 18:13 |
| cubexyz | and R30's :) | Oct 08 18:13 |
| cubexyz | you probably won't like those | Oct 08 18:13 |
| MinceR | what are they like? | Oct 08 18:14 |
| cubexyz | hard to fix, and they overheat | Oct 08 18:14 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 08 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | So there's this company called AdReclaim that stuffs pages full of Clickbait "Taboola" style ads and pop-unders, but only if the user has ad blocking. | Oct 08 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | It exploits a bug in Chrome that stops content blockers from blocking websockets requests. | Oct 08 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | The company claims it can evade 100% of ad blockers, but that only seems to be the case in Chrome. | Oct 08 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | In Firefox, their method doesn't work. In Edge, their method doesn't work. In Internet Explorer with TPL ad blocking lists, their method doesn't work. In Opera with the built-in ad blocker, their method doesn't work. | Oct 08 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Two-thirds of desktop web browser users now use Chrome, so maybe they figure that's good enough. | Oct 08 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Their business will die off if Google ever decides to patch Chrome. | Oct 08 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe they just plan to make as much money as they can until Google gets around to that. | Oct 08 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | Or if enough sites deploy AdReclaim that people flood back to Firefox to get away from it. | Oct 08 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | Adblock Plus still hasn't bothered to solve the Facebook issue. ublock-origin did. | Oct 08 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | I guess ABP is too busy working on effectively becoming adware to worry about this. | Oct 08 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've been working on energy efficiency for a while now. | Oct 08 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Between John and me, we're using about 4 kWh per day. | Oct 08 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | That's down from about 7 or 8. That's base load, not counting air conditioning, which we don't need for the better part of 9 months out of the year in Illinois. | Oct 08 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | The landlords run a boiler system for heat. | Oct 08 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois will probably be facing an energy crisis within the next five years. | Oct 08 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | ComEd is threatening to shut down two nuclear power plants unless the state gives them a billion dollars and the state doesn't have a billion dollars because it's Illinois. | Oct 08 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | So we'll move from being a net exporter of power to a net importer of power. | Oct 08 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | The people running this state are idiots. | Oct 08 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | They've been asking voters to vote no on the transportation lockbox constitutional amendment (after they passed it and got it on the ballot to keep people from going door to door gathering support through a citizen initiative). | Oct 08 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | They're yanking a billion dollars a year from transportation taxes and spending it on other things, which is extremely stupid. | Oct 08 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | We get federal matching funds on almost all of the transportation projects that aren't being funded, so the state loses a billion a year from the federal government. | Oct 08 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | So I voted yes on the lockbox. | Oct 08 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | I would have voted to stop them from raiding other things, if I could. | Oct 08 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | As far as the Democrats are concerned, the entire state should be sacrificed on the altar of unfunded teacher pensions. | Oct 08 18:27 |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/jpbrammer/status/784787726604333056 | Oct 08 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jpbrammer: Mike Pence is an earnest man who simply wants to electrocute LGBT children until they're straight. Shame he's been dragged into this mess. | Oct 08 18:55 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Speaking of Pence... | Oct 08 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx30Q8OI7WC8YP&newContentID=MxRRHB72E4ONX5#MxRRHB72E4ONX5 | Oct 08 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Indiana BMV caught with their hand in the cookie jar again. Overcharging customers with illegal fees to contribute to the Republican "surplus". [ http://ur1.ca/pv231 ] | Oct 08 19:30 | |
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| MinceR | http://9gag.com/gag/aK3odWb | Oct 08 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Who do you think would win - 9GAG | Oct 08 19:43 | |
| cubexyz | ha | Oct 08 19:49 |
| cubexyz | a lot of these chromebooks have 16 gig SSD's | Oct 08 19:52 |
| cubexyz | seems a bit on the small side | Oct 08 19:52 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 08 19:57 |
| MinceR | google wants you to keep your data in the Clown | Oct 08 19:57 |
| MinceR | hopefully the bloat of the web and/or the obsolescence of small SSDs will force them to use bigger ones | Oct 08 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, More of them are using 32 GB SSDs now. | Oct 08 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | Plus you can store data on an SD card or USB thumb drive. | Oct 08 20:05 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/6S8Jnht.jpg | Oct 08 20:06 |
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| cubexyz | ok, got a bit of work done | Oct 08 20:44 |
| cubexyz | made some much needed improvements to df for v5 | Oct 08 20:44 |
| cubexyz | now it's closer to what openbsd does | Oct 08 20:51 |
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| MinceR | big surprise | Oct 02 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | They open Edge, use it to download Chrome or Firefox, and then never open Edge again. | Oct 02 00:00 |
| MinceR | people wised up to m$ changing names and logos instead of fixing code | Oct 02 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I saw a thing on Facebook the other day. Wish I downloaded it. | Oct 02 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | It was from Rick and Morty. The episode where they made a butter dish with artificial intelligence. | Oct 02 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | "What's my purpose!?" You serve butter! | Oct 02 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | Someone put an MS Edge logo on its face and it says "What's my purpose!?" You download Chrome! | Oct 02 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782341935579226113 | Oct 02 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/eV0JoK0vuL | Oct 02 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 00:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 00:02 | |
| MinceR | https://ageofshitlords.com/student-officially-changes-personal-pronoun-majesty/ | Oct 02 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ageofshitlords.com | Student officially changes his personal pronoun to "His Majesty" - Age Of Shitlords | Oct 02 00:02 | |
| MinceR | yeah, i think i've seen that | Oct 02 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Adding up all versions of IE and Edge, you get about the same number of users as Firefox. | Oct 02 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | But Firefox users are mostly all on the same version. Or ESR at the least. | Oct 02 00:02 |
| MinceR | i don't care, i switched to Pale Moon | Oct 02 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | Many IE users are using a version that MS stopped supporting and aren't even getting security fixes. | Oct 02 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | There's no support for IE 10 or earlier now. | Oct 02 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Well, IE 9 if you're on Vista, but only until April. | Oct 02 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | But that has so few users that it's barely worth mentioning. | Oct 02 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | Even Paul Thurrott criticized Edge. | Oct 02 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | He said something like, "Even if Edge started out on par with the rest, and it is far from it, only releasing new versions of it a couple of times a year means that it would never be able to keep up.". | Oct 02 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | MS is treating it like an OS component instead of an app, so it can't get updates apart from Windows. | Oct 02 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | So you're stuck with whatever state it's in from the last release of the OS, probably for the next 9-10 months. | Oct 02 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Someone on Reddit made a Windows 10 lookalike in HTML 5. If you click on Cortana "Ask Me Anything" it says "Just kidding. I'm useless.". | Oct 02 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | So I went back to the topic and commented "You got Cortana right, at least.". | Oct 02 00:07 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 02 00:07 |
| MinceR | url? | Oct 02 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~tvillare/win10/ | Oct 02 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-users.csc.calpoly.edu | Desktop [ http://ur1.ca/ptshe ] | Oct 02 00:08 | |
| MinceR | lol, thx | Oct 02 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 02 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 02 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | So if you launch No Man's Sky with an Intel graphics adapter, it crashes and says "Sorry, Intel graphics are unsupported.". | Oct 02 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that there's a hack to get around this and run it anyway. Some guy on Youtube was running it on an HD 4400, which is much slower than my Iris 540. So I'm in the process of trying to find the hack. | Oct 02 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? | Oct 02 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I understand there's a library that fakes the game out and tells it that you have an Nvidia card, and then the game works. | Oct 02 00:11 |
| cubexyz | I'm surprised people aren't more worried about the intel ME backdoor | Oct 02 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | That reeks of bad design. They couldn't just blacklist the Intel chipsets that really couldn't run it? | Oct 02 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | They should have tested at least on the recent Intel adapters and whitelisted them. | Oct 02 00:12 |
| MinceR | blacklisting also reeks of bad design | Oct 02 00:12 |
| MinceR | just document it and let the user try | Oct 02 00:12 |
| cubexyz | ME can be active during hiberation... | Oct 02 00:13 |
| cubexyz | dedicated connection to the network interface INDEPENDENT of the cpu | Oct 02 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You mean like "This game uses features that pre-2015 Intel graphics don't have. It may perform poorly or crash.". in the system requirements? | Oct 02 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that would be fair. | Oct 02 00:15 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 02 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I just posted this on their Facebook wall. | Oct 02 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer to No Man's Sky | Oct 02 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 02 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | So if you launch No Man's Sky with an Intel graphics adapter, it crashes and says "Sorry, Intel graphics are unsupported.". | Oct 02 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that there's a hack to get around this and run it anyway. Some guy on Youtube was running it on an HD 4400, which is much slower than my Iris 540. So I'm in the process of trying to find the hack. | Oct 02 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? | Oct 02 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | (This reeks of bad design. Just document that you don't support it and let the user try. How the hell do you know what Intel graphics will be capable of in the coming years? A blanket blacklist stays around forever!) | Oct 02 00:18 |
| MinceR | you pasted that one already :> | Oct 02 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, added the part at the bottom. | Oct 02 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | I still have games from ~10 years ago where if it returns Intel they won't let you play it. | Oct 02 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | There's fixes for those too. | Oct 02 00:20 |
| MinceR | ah | Oct 02 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4xk0od/fix_for_video_card_without_opengl_45/ | Oct 02 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | FIX for video Card without OPENGL 4.5 : NoMansSkyTheGame | Oct 02 00:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, the game is only using one extension from OpenGL 4.5 and crashes without it. | Oct 02 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test | Oct 02 00:23 |
| schestowitz | [23:49] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I'll replace Windows 10 as soon as they get Linux to recognize the SSD. | Oct 02 00:24 |
| schestowitz | If you get the German version of this device ;-) | Oct 02 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know if that was an ISK2 that he had though, schestowitz | Oct 02 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | If he has an ISK it will install no problem. | Oct 02 00:25 |
| schestowitz | not sure, not been following it | Oct 02 00:25 |
| schestowitz | keep chasing, I'll spread the word | Oct 02 00:25 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to write about it yet | Oct 02 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo did the ISK2 as a mid-cycle refresh, and they added a processor upgrade with better graphics. The Iris 540 on mine, the HD 520 on the ISK. | Oct 02 00:26 |
| schestowitz | but I took lots of notes | Oct 02 00:26 |
| schestowitz | and registered all the resultant articles and blog posts about it | Oct 02 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | The HD 520 is really really slow. It can't run many things. Iris 540 = many games become playable at 1366x728 at medium or better graphics settings. | Oct 02 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | There's also Iris Pro 580, but that's not an option on the Yoga unfortunately. Would have bought that if it was though. | Oct 02 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | *1366x768 | Oct 02 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | GLInterceptx64_1_3_3.exe 1/55 says it's a virus on VirusTotal. | Oct 02 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | WTF is Bkav? | Oct 02 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 02 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | You can put just about any Windows program in VirusTotal and have at least one go off due to false positive. | Oct 02 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | W32.eHeur.Malware09 | Oct 02 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | That suggests that the heuristics scanner of that one AV program didn't like something about the file. | Oct 02 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, it could be anything, even the file compression. | Oct 02 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | bkav appears to be some off brand antivirus program from Vietnam. | Oct 02 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | Probably explains why I never heard of it. Why does Google put this crap in VirusTotal? | Oct 02 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | I applied the workaround. Now to see if it loads. | Oct 02 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | Nope. | Oct 02 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | That's okay. I always try them out before I buy them anyway. | Oct 02 00:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AuthorJCStorms/status/782365209214136320 | Oct 02 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AuthorJCStorms: @schestowitz Per nation? As in each nation chooses their rule of censorship? Yeah, for Europe, that's NOT fucking good. | Oct 02 00:47 | |
| DaemonFC | Gog and Steam weasel their way out of their Money Back Guarantee from what I hear. | Oct 02 00:47 |
| schestowitz | They always did that using filtering software, sometimes law enforcement. Now it's getting worse due to policy. | Oct 02 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Steam warns people that the <2 hours of play and owning for <2 weeks MBG is "not to be used to figure out if it works and then get your money back if it doesn't". | Oct 02 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Since I can't figure out why anyone would try to use the MBG for anything else, that renders it worthless. | Oct 02 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | So it makes more sense to just grab it somewhere else, see if it works, and then buy it if it does. | Oct 02 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | Trying to return software that doesn't work has always been dicey. Usually, they're happy to just leave you out the money and with a program that doesn't work on your computer. | Oct 02 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | When software was sold in boxes at stores, if it didn't work, I'd actually put it in shrinkwrap myself and then use a hairdryer on it and say I got it as a birthday present and it didn't work on my computer. | Oct 02 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | The law says if it's still in the shrinkwrap, you can return it. | Oct 02 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody who makes $8 an hour at Walmart is going to argue too much. | Oct 02 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently the original The Witcher game was censored for the North American release, but not the international version? | Oct 02 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Interesting. The US is usually better about free speech than the rest of the English speaking countries. | Oct 02 00:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AuthorJCStorms/status/782367233578184704 | Oct 02 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AuthorJCStorms: @schestowitz So you think this is inherently better this transfer take place? To an international group? | Oct 02 00:55 | |
| DaemonFC | The UK recently arrested a man for saying that a woman was going to go to hell for wearing tight pants. | Oct 02 00:55 |
| schestowitz | The international group would not do more than what's already being done anyway, sometimes worse | Oct 02 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe it was to avoid the ESRB MA rating, but that doesn't make sense. That dictates what stores will carry it as store policy, but it was released directly over the internet. | Oct 02 00:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782367286183227392 | Oct 02 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: "intel inside" has a whole new meaning https://t.co/6HDGCHj06R | Oct 02 00:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: What good is a so-called 'smart' device if it's remotely controlled not by users but by malicious entities like #gchq who view you as enemy? | Oct 02 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | Back doors (ME). See http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences | Oct 02 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights | Oct 02 00:56 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Recent AMD processors have their version of the same thing. | Oct 02 00:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pceebee23/status/782367305648840704 | Oct 02 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pceebee23: @schestowitz and they use it relentlessly... all comms all the time... | Oct 02 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, I know | Oct 02 00:56 |
| schestowitz | Russia is leaving x86 behind | Oct 02 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Lenovo Forums seems to have banned all Comcast users in Illinois to make sure I don't come back. | Oct 02 00:57 |
| schestowitz | wow | Oct 02 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | tor browser lets me come back | Oct 02 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | I have another account there now, but I can only use their forums over tor. | Oct 02 00:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 02 00:59 |
| schestowitz | maybe tell them about that ban | Oct 02 00:59 |
| schestowitz | say you're someone from another place in Illinois | Oct 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | and then see them ban tor | Oct 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | play their game | Oct 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | report back | Oct 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | This is reinforcing the idea that they are hiding, afraid, unable to defend themselves from argument | Oct 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | so they shoot messengers | Oct 02 01:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AuthorJCStorms/status/782368946963918848 | Oct 02 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AuthorJCStorms: @schestowitz I doubt you have any solid evidence to back that up. I'll stay at bay and just hope for the best. Which is a total shit fall. | Oct 02 01:01 | |
| schestowitz | re IANA | Oct 02 01:01 |
| MinceR | time to get a truly distributed replacement for DNS | Oct 02 01:11 |
| MinceR | long overdue, really | Oct 02 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/55fy27/lenovo_forums_seems_to_have_possibly_banned_all/ | Oct 02 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Forums seems to have (possibly?) banned all Comcast users in the state of Illinois in order to try to silence the discussion of Linux on Yoga problems. [x-post from /r/lenovo] : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ptsro ] | Oct 02 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/782372291191644161 | Oct 02 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Yes @schestowitz I understand. Was thinking people out there might appreciate some edukashiun. Must take a GCSE in English some time. | Oct 02 01:13 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: excellent! | Oct 02 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I added at the end... I just wanted to let everyone know what happened in case they thought that people didn't want to talk about the Linux problems on Lenovo's Forums. In reality, people are steaming mad about this and their accounts are being banned and their threads deleted or modified. | Oct 02 01:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I'm promoting this now | Oct 02 01:22 |
| schestowitz | hoping to drive some upvotes | Oct 02 01:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, quoted that last bit just now | Oct 02 01:23 |
| schestowitz | 2 am here almost, so might be hard to build momentum (early Sunday) | Oct 02 01:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: OK, it's starting to get retweeted by large users | Oct 02 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | That was fast. | Oct 02 01:23 |
| schestowitz | even a GNU developer | Oct 02 01:23 |
| schestowitz | now about 10 votes I think | Oct 02 01:24 |
| schestowitz | 40% suggested 5 votes or 10 | Oct 02 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Hopefully the mods don't lock it again. | Oct 02 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | I hate the mods on that subreddit. | Oct 02 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | Get a discussion going. It gets locked. | Oct 02 01:25 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.fool.com/p/60/www.motleyfool.idmanagedsolutions.com/charts/caps/thumbnail.chart?SYMBOL_US=LNVGY&TIME_SPAN=2Y&TYPE=mountain&RESOLUTION=5M&AXIS_SCALE=lin&HEIGHT=150&WIDTH=285&ID_BENCH1=28798185 | Oct 02 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Red line is the S&P 500 performance over the last ttwo years. Blue line is Lenovo. | Oct 02 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | Glad that we don't have any of their stock in John's retirement account. | Oct 02 01:28 |
| schestowitz | wow, 38% upvoted | Oct 02 01:30 |
| schestowitz | so there are loads of votes already | Oct 02 01:30 |
| schestowitz | divisible by what? | Oct 02 01:31 |
| schestowitz | more than 20 for sure | Oct 02 01:31 |
| schestowitz | me: "The mistreatment of #gnu #linux by #lenovo isn't what's going to nearly kill them. It's their endless lies about it rather than apology+fix." | Oct 02 01:32 |
| schestowitz | you can see what I write, e.g. in Twitter | Oct 02 01:32 |
| schestowitz | or https://www.joindiaspora.com/people/da68a1f811b0f71e | Oct 02 01:32 |
| schestowitz | [01:34] <schestowitz> back up to 44% | Oct 02 01:34 |
| schestowitz | [01:34] <schestowitz> we can make this stick like the last time at 200 with lots of comments | Oct 02 01:34 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: bury squad likely there, maybe volunteers too | Oct 02 01:34 |
| schestowitz | those who think Microsoft is awesome and Lenovo is just a victim | Oct 02 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I figured that this would happen. | Oct 02 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | The original post about it that got locked is still getting some up votes. | Oct 02 01:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782354880035823616 | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For lessons on digital swaraj, Gandhi is an open source | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DBv63is0B0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 01:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | For lessons on digital swaraj, Gandhi is an open source | Tux Machines | Oct 02 01:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782378834729598976 | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Experimental Unity Vulkan Demos For Linux | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sjVVqcBfn1 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 01:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Experimental Unity Vulkan Demos For Linux - Phoronix | Oct 02 01:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782379273747324928 | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Humble Artifex Mundi Bundle has all its Hidden Object | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | games with full Linux support https://t.co/KnWc098P0y | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Oct 02 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 01:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-humble-artifex-mundi-bundle-has-all-its-hidden-object-games-with-full-linux-support.8182 ) | Oct 02 01:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782153565326409728 | Oct 02 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @hintjens @hackaday then watch the youtube video: https://t.co/u5yk6t9gL3 | Oct 02 01:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782220319876677632 | Oct 02 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @jwildeboer @hintjens you miss the last one :-) | Oct 02 01:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782270667827908609 | Oct 02 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @travisgoodspeed @radareorg I was dreaming of a website where one could upload firmwares and run some automated analysis. | Oct 02 01:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mozilla-Project-Mortar | Oct 02 02:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla's Project Mortar Wants Pepper API Flash & PDFium In Firefox - Phoronix | Oct 02 02:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is being killed by Chrome. | Oct 02 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Google can make Chrome do anything because they have an unlimited amount of money to throw into it. | Oct 02 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | Including the money that they are no longer paying Mozilla for the search deal. | Oct 02 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that the vast majority of Mozilla's income was from the Google deal, so they have been hurt badly. | Oct 02 02:09 |
| MinceR | no, firefox is being killed by mozilla | Oct 02 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | As far as I can tell, they haven't released a financial statement for 2015, so we won't know how much they brought in until they do. | Oct 02 02:12 |
| MinceR | they do one atrocious change after the other | Oct 02 02:12 |
| MinceR | one wrong decision after the other | Oct 02 02:12 |
| MinceR | what started with them giving in about video codecs culminated in them requiring pulseaudio on gnu/linux | Oct 02 02:13 |
| MinceR | for no good reason | Oct 02 02:13 |
| MinceR | switching to pale moon was a huge improvement | Oct 02 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla is probably running on steam (cash on hand from before the deal with Google expired). | Oct 02 02:15 |
| MinceR | it would make more sense to let volunteers improve a browser than what they do now, spending leftover cash on making it worse | Oct 02 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Pale Moon has revenue. | Oct 02 02:17 |
| MinceR | good | Oct 02 02:18 |
| MinceR | where do they get it? | Oct 02 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | I think most of it comes from DuckDuckGo. They removed Google from the default providers. | Oct 02 02:18 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 02 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | They also have some affiliate links in the start page. | Oct 02 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | Like if you click through to ebay and buy something, Pale Moon gets a small affiliate fee from the sale. | Oct 02 02:19 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | So it has revenue streams but nobody forces you to use them. | Oct 02 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | Moonchild (the main developer) says that he's just trying to pay the bills and make a decent income from it. | Oct 02 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | He said that some people approached him about bundling crapware (like with OpenCandy) and he told them to fuck off. | Oct 02 02:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 02:21 |
| MinceR | he's doing it right | Oct 02 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2837 | Oct 02 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.palemoon.org | Will Pale Moon bundle other software in the installer? - Pale Moon forum | Oct 02 02:22 | |
| MinceR | pale moon even has icons for every search engine in the search bar | Oct 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Will Pale Moon bundle other software in its installer? | Oct 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | I regularly get e-mails from companies wanting to piggyback third-party software and "offers" in the Pale Moon installer. Let me be absolutely clear to everyone so they don't waste my time or their own: | Oct 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Pale Moon will NEVER, ever, bundle third party software, commercial offers, search/other toolbars, or other additional software in its installer package. | Oct 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | This means: | Oct 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Quit e-mailing me already. I'm not interested. I don't care how smart you think your "program"/"system" is or how witty you think your name-pun of your domain is, or in what way your "offers" are better than those of competitors. | Oct 02 02:22 |
| MinceR | i don't even know when firefox started forgetting most of them | Oct 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | If you ever see a Pale Moon installers being distributed with additional offers, bundled software or ads in the installer, they are illegal, and in direct violation of the redistribution license for Pale Moon binaries (let me know so I can send a cease and desist letter). Note that this includes "download helpers/managers" and "stub installers" as well that offer additional software. | Oct 02 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Pale Moon will not be a valid target for "monetization of free software" this way. Ever. I'd rather have the project explode in a million chunks before I let unspecified third party software catch a ride. I hate it with a passion myself when I download software and I get all sorts of software (let alone vapor- and junkware) that I didn't want in the first place. Or having to untick a dozen boxes to just get what I went to a manufacturer's | Oct 02 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | website for, specifically. | Oct 02 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The bundled shitware problem has gotten so bad on Windows that you have to forget about using most download sites. | Oct 02 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | Even some hardware drivers offer you unrelated software now. | Oct 02 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | I have all Intel stuff in this laptop so they don't do that, but AMD and Nvidia's driver bundles install bloatware. | Oct 02 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | Like Raptr. | Oct 02 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | "AMD Gaming Evolved" (Raptr) | Oct 02 02:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | It sits in your system tray and takes RAM and complains that it can't find a path to drives that don't exist (WTF!?). | Oct 02 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | It says it "optimizes" your games. Whatever that means. | Oct 02 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Crapware. Even if you get Windows on a "Signature" PC, it'll find a way to get in later. | Oct 02 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you're extremely careful. | Oct 02 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe if the Windows Store catches on, it will solve *that* problem, but I wouldn't count on it. | Oct 02 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Developers will probably offer MS part of the crapware bounty and then it'll all get whitelisted and ignored by Windows Defender. | Oct 02 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | Or Microsoft will buy the advertising company that delivers ads to the crapware. | Oct 02 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | That's happened before. | Oct 02 02:33 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 02 02:33 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, A flood of downvotes and a couple of comments deriding me. | Oct 02 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Now Matthew Garrett is retweeting Donald Trump. | Oct 02 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, MinceR https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/781183351507984384 | Oct 02 04:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Anyone have any idea what this is? That's a USB *socket* and there are no other connectors https://t.co/7t7s1ay2yi | Oct 02 04:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Anyone have any idea what this is? That's a USB *socket* and there are no other connectors https://t.co/7t7s1ay2yi | Oct 02 04:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Matthew Garrett unable to figure out what a car charger is.... | Oct 02 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]fengshaun [score hidden] 16 minutes ago | Oct 02 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | Have you verified that your ip actually changes when you renew your DHCP lease? | Oct 02 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply | Oct 02 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point a minute ago | Oct 02 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yes I have. Comcast usually gives me a new IP address every time I unplug my modem for a while, which I do each night. My IP address has changed several times and always blocked on Lenovo Forums. | Oct 02 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how many people they have potentially blocked just to try to keep me out, but it hasn't worked. It may inconvenience other customers that need help with their Lenovo PC but use Comcast and get the ban message. | Oct 02 05:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782380327708856321 | Oct 02 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Cossacks 3' officially due on Linux in the second half | Oct 02 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of October https://t.co/zD5c2FiPtQ (error) | Oct 02 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/cossacks-3-officially-due-on-linux-in-the-second-half-of-october.8228 ) | Oct 02 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782384267732979712 | Oct 02 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/vWcNJfPZm9 | Oct 02 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 02 05:34 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Apple EFI checks to see if it's booting OS X and then powers off the Thunderbolt ports if it isn't. Linux contains workaround code for this. | Oct 02 07:18 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/maxpolk/status/782416574191808512 | Oct 02 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maxpolk: @schestowitz @reddit Desperation for @lenovo getting *extremely* desperate after their conspiracy with @Microsoft to ban Linux went public | Oct 02 08:29 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: on the upside... | Oct 02 08:56 |
| schestowitz | hundreds saw your headline | Oct 02 08:56 |
| schestowitz | and dozens read the body | Oct 02 08:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: are you OK with me reposting it in techrights? | Oct 02 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah | Oct 02 08:56 |
| schestowitz | is there enough background in there? | Oct 02 08:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: this can go on for months | Oct 02 08:59 |
| schestowitz | and ought to | Oct 02 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know where to take this next. | Oct 02 08:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: can you add an intro sentence? | Oct 02 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | Like? | Oct 02 08:59 |
| schestowitz | To explain it's you who started the whole thing and what it did? | Oct 02 09:00 |
| schestowitz | the existing text being the latest | Oct 02 09:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: so that it doens't start like "Oh, yeah..." | Oct 02 09:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: just once concise sentence | Oct 02 09:02 |
| schestowitz | explain it's you who starrted it | Oct 02 09:02 |
| schestowitz | I started typing it up | Oct 02 09:02 |
| schestowitz | maybe reddit is useless (or the sub) | Oct 02 09:03 |
| schestowitz | so we can use techrights now to keep it talked about | Oct 02 09:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: leave ir with me | Oct 02 09:04 |
| schestowitz | I'll write an intro | Oct 02 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, you're probably better at that than I am. | Oct 02 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | Reddit punishes posts that aren't boring. | Oct 02 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | Cats and stuff. | Oct 02 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Microsoft has their own subreddits. | Oct 02 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | janemsft is a mod in the Windows 10 subreddit. | Oct 02 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | errr, jenmsft | Oct 02 09:07 |
| schestowitz | ok, hang on | Oct 02 09:09 |
| schestowitz | almost there | Oct 02 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/55as6r/is_my_feedback_actually_used/ | Oct 02 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is my feedback actually used? : windowsphone | Oct 02 09:09 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 02 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | New Windows 10 releases fix one thing and break something else (sometimes even the update itself won't install). | Oct 02 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | It feels like Microsoft is shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. | Oct 02 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/81659/microsoft-delivers-yet-another-broken-windows-10-update | Oct 02 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Delivers Yet Another Broken Windows 10 Update - Thurrott.com | Oct 02 09:13 | |
| DaemonFC | "Microsoft is pushing the idea that you should always patch your machine on the day the update is released as they often release security patches that fix vulnerabilities. But, until the company can get a handle on their quality control issues, such as the Anniversary update breaking millions of webcams, it feels like every time you run Windows update you are rolling the dice." | Oct 02 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | Oh good. Now you don't have to tape over the webcam if you're a high school student so your pervy principle won't use the RAT the school installed to your laptop to watch you naked in your bedroom. (Yeah, that actually happened a while ago.) | Oct 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: fair to say it started in techrights irc? | Oct 02 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Oct 02 09:18 |
| schestowitz | ok, wait | Oct 02 09:20 |
| schestowitz | 5 mins | Oct 02 09:20 |
| schestowitz | from now on, write your rants in techrights too | Oct 02 09:20 |
| schestowitz | the corporate media is 'done' with it | Oct 02 09:20 |
| schestowitz | even reddit | Oct 02 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The way many people respond in Reddit is odd. | Oct 02 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | Why would people be falling over themselves in defense of Microsoft there? | Oct 02 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft hasn't done any favors for people who want to use Linux on their PC. uEFI has brought about literally thousands of problems all by itself even if the OEM isn't trying to lock Linux out. | Oct 02 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | PCs are a lot more like Macs now. Bad firmware and all. | Oct 02 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | I was excited for a while because I heard that uEFI would have an open source implementation. | Oct 02 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | Then they based it on the open source implementation and signed it so only they could update it. | Oct 02 09:26 |
| cubexyz | ok, renewed cubeman.tk for another year... it's still free | Oct 02 09:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/ | Oct 02 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights | Oct 02 09:30 | |
| schestowitz | forget about reddit for now | Oct 02 09:30 |
| schestowitz | the effort taken to prevent burial is huge | Oct 02 09:30 |
| schestowitz | so use your own platforms | Oct 02 09:30 |
| schestowitz | this kind of censorship in digg is why we needed boycottnovell | Oct 02 09:30 |
| schestowitz | at some stage people are not willing to let their platform be 'hijacked' by causes | Oct 02 09:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not seen any coverage of it since Friday | Oct 02 09:31 |
| schestowitz | when I gave you a link about it | Oct 02 09:31 |
| schestowitz | and thsi coverage repeated the face-saving lie | Oct 02 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I don't think that people are buying it. | Oct 02 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | Even the people that try to make excuses for it probably wouldn't buy one themselves if they wanted to run Linux. | Oct 02 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782486880113795072 | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SUSE: Mesa, Kernel, GNOME, KDE apps update in Tumbleweed | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rmrW42Ipej (news.opensuse.org) | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 09:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE News | Oct 02 09:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782498196345982976 | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org) | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 09:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yogatailor favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...' | Oct 02 09:34 | |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't have any problem getting a used Lenovo X60, T60 or X200 with libreboot | Oct 02 09:37 |
| cubexyz | otherwise no lenovo for me | Oct 02 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, The hardware in this laptop is pretty decent. Windows 10 isn't. | Oct 02 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | One thing that really bugs me is that a lot of Windows apps are not meant to be used on HiDPI displays, so you get little butons and stuff and can't really use the app. | Oct 02 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | Peazip is like that. | Oct 02 09:39 |
| cubexyz | for GM45 chipsets installing libreboot means the Intel management engine is gone | Oct 02 09:40 |
| cubexyz | that's a big deal for me | Oct 02 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | It can bring up the processor without IME? | Oct 02 09:40 |
| cubexyz | yes, on certain models | Oct 02 09:41 |
| cubexyz | of course, some hardware just doesn't have management engine at all | Oct 02 09:43 |
| cubexyz | also getting rid of that code gives you more room for other stuff for coreboot | Oct 02 09:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pkrumins/status/782489296414601216 | Oct 02 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pkrumins: @schestowitz Tux celebrating Wine release. https://t.co/GbyXEM6oAj | Oct 02 09:45 | |
| cubexyz | there's a 5 megabits of ME code | Oct 02 09:46 |
| cubexyz | there's also a smaller version which is 3 megabits | Oct 02 09:46 |
| cubexyz | coreboot people now refer to Intel ME has "Panic level 9000+" | Oct 02 09:47 |
| cubexyz | s/has/as/ | Oct 02 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 | Oct 02 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo Community | Oct 02 09:50 | |
| cubexyz | here's a chart of the current ME situation: | Oct 02 09:50 |
| cubexyz | https://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_Engine | Oct 02 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Intel Management Engine - coreboot | Oct 02 09:50 | |
| cubexyz | Intel ME is great for the NSA, bad for everyone else | Oct 02 09:52 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 02 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel Inside... | Oct 02 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Intelligence | Oct 02 09:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoft | Oct 02 09:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "From a MS official site: " the Microsoft MVP Award is our way of saying Thanks!"" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfing | Oct 02 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - Techrights | Oct 02 09:58 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: keep showing me links like that | Oct 02 10:00 |
| schestowitz | I'll circulate best I can... | Oct 02 10:00 |
| cubexyz | what you want for starters is a laptop with a socketed DIP or PLCC chip | Oct 02 10:00 |
| cubexyz | you'll need a special tool for removing PLCC chips | Oct 02 10:01 |
| cubexyz | but you'll be save from bricking your laptop | Oct 02 10:02 |
| cubexyz | X200, X60, T60 etc merely has the _potential_ to be free of Intel ME | Oct 02 10:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/782505711720734720 | Oct 02 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7 | Oct 02 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7 | Oct 02 10:03 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/td-p/3439442 | Oct 02 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo Community | Oct 02 10:04 | |
| cubexyz | Gigabyte GA-6BXC has a socketed DIP chip for BIOS | Oct 02 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782501624556220416 | Oct 02 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in | Oct 02 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems | Oct 02 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org) | Oct 02 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights | Oct 02 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507065168236544 | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sabayon Bizarre But Useful https://t.co/YSwkTHTmk0 | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (freedompenguin.com) | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Sabayon Bizarre But Useful - Freedom Penguin | Oct 02 10:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507698994704384 | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "special Korean Edition of neon's Developer Edition | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tracking the stable branch of KDE's code repositories." | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HWLl66OYaq (blogs.kde.org) | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE neon Korean Developer Edition (... and future CJK Edition?) | blogs.kde.org | Oct 02 10:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54j74w/can_someone_recommend_me_penetration_testing/ | Oct 02 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Can someone recommend me Penetration testing linux distros for slow Pc's? : linux | Oct 02 10:15 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I saw you in "Not the Lenovo Yoga!" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54uahw/linux_laptop_suggestions/ | Oct 02 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux laptop suggestions? : linux | Oct 02 10:27 | |
| schestowitz | I was trying to find whether someone mentioned Lenovo | Oct 02 10:27 |
| schestowitz | "I bought a lenovo ideapad y700 earlier this year. It is a beautiful machine and runs Linux Mint perfectly. Excellent for gaming." | Oct 02 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It seems it's hit or miss. Probably since the MS deal is recent. | Oct 02 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | The first 900 didn't block Linux. | Oct 02 10:28 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soj2/should_we_make_an_effort_to_make_hardware_stop/ | Oct 02 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should we make an effort to make hardware stop claiming to be "Linux Supported!" if it stopped working after a kernel released years ago? : linux | Oct 02 10:33 | |
| schestowitz | did you see their MS patent deal?\ | Oct 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | OEM deal? | Oct 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | and patent settlement? | Oct 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Maybe only for Android, but it's a secret deal, so who knows... | Oct 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it in the summer | Oct 02 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782508631782817792 | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Say not Goodbye, say #Sayonara https://t.co/3IFuZeysoV | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.ocsmag.com) | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Say not Goodbye, say Sayonara | OCS-Mag | Oct 02 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782513193369346048 | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and How | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | We’re Fixing it https://t.co/ghIqiU7BE9 (blogs.s-osg.org) | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.s-osg.org/problem-linux-kernel-documentation-fixing/ ) | Oct 02 10:37 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "Whatever you do stay away from the Thinkpad X230, worst trackpad I've ever used." https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54jyuc/decent_linux_laptop_for_2016/ #lenovo ruins #ibm business | Oct 02 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Decent Linux Laptop for 2016? : linux | Oct 02 10:38 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 02 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | Stay away from recent Lenovo Yogas. They don't let you install Linux at all. So unless wasting your money on a fast SSD that Linux can't even see and resorting to running it off a SD card or thumb drive is something you want to do, stay away from Lenovo. Lenovo no = Not good for Linux. If anything the problem will get worse. | Oct 02 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | err, meant to say Lenovo = not good for Linux | Oct 02 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | changed that | Oct 02 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | We should make sure to emphasize that so that people think Lenovo and then "I probably can't run Linux on that.". | Oct 02 10:42 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/556rkk/is_it_safe_to_install_gnome_320_on_ubuntu_16041/ | Oct 02 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is it safe to install GNOME 3.20 on Ubuntu 16.04.1 using ppa? : linux | Oct 02 10:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54p0gg/the_us_presidential_candidates_on_technology/ | Oct 02 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The U.S. presidential candidates on technology, privacy issues [including use of open source software in government] : linux | Oct 02 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | "Can someone find that video of Hillary Clinton tripping all over herself to figure out what Firefox and open source software were when she was SoS and a federal employee asked her why they had to use Internet Explorer?" | Oct 02 10:51 |
| schestowitz | LOL at " tripping all over herself" | Oct 02 10:52 |
| schestowitz | http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/ | Oct 02 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ijr.com | I Protected Hillary Clinton In The Secret Service - Here's Why Her 'Fainting' Video Really Scares Me | Oct 02 10:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vfux/what_do_you_think_about_the_business_model_of/ | Oct 02 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What do you think about the business model of Parted Magic? : linux | Oct 02 10:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, too soon? | Oct 02 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z4UEr2ekOY | Oct 02 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hillary Clinton thinks saving money is complicated - YouTube | Oct 02 11:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @maelpoke favourited 'The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and How...' | Oct 02 11:02 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vdp8/lenovo_courts_devs_with_moto_z_source_code_release/ | Oct 02 11:03 |
| schestowitz | "I see the development kit is apparently released and the kernel sources is apparently released. Is the bootloader locked? Does this mean that I am able to actually compile the kernel myself and install it on the phone? Am I able to compile Android myself as well? What restrictions are there?" | Oct 02 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Courts Devs With Moto Z Source Code Release : linux | Oct 02 11:04 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's one of the most restrictive phones you can get, and it's a Verizon exclusive afaik. | Oct 02 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | So even if it was easy to mode, few people have it. | Oct 02 11:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12578204 | Oct 02 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | So while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in ge... | Hacker News | Oct 02 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | So while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in general. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Context: I'm one of the original leads on LXQt, and I initiated the merge of Razor-qt and LXDE-Qt into LXQt. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I've been using LXQt as my main desktop for several years now. I've kept up with what other desktops have been doing. I've been especially impressed by the efforts of the GNOME team, and especially disappointed with the clusterfuck KDE has become... but those are just details. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I feel like the Linux desktop is dead, and one of the worst examples of open source software right now. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Almost nobody actually collaborates on anything. Everybody wants to do their own thing and it leads to developer fragmentation. Every project is undermanned. LXQt is especially undermanned right now. The Cinnamon guys, last I heard, want to switch to Qt but don't have the developers to do it and would end up being a LXQt clone. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 11:12 |
| cubexyz | come on, linux is definitely not dead | Oct 02 11:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/782525961799598080 | Oct 02 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7 | Oct 02 11:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7 | Oct 02 11:25 | |
| schestowitz | site down? https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtml | Oct 02 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtml ) | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782521042388516865 | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Welcome to the 36th installation of This Week in Solus." | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GdQBkAD01N (solus-project.com) | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #36 | Solus | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782523195349954561 | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What’s New in Elementary OS 0.4 Loki | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6LlMIFEKOT (linuxscoop.com) | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | What's New in Elementary OS 0.4 Loki - Linux Scoop | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782524963865653248 | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why kernel development still uses email | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JRKkuuxSze (lwn.net) | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why kernel development still uses email [LWN.net] | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| cubexyz | oh man that's brutal... they tried to OCR fraktur | Oct 02 11:31 |
| cubexyz | just buy the english translation :-P | Oct 02 11:32 |
| schestowitz | https://camo.githubusercontent.com/b07bd2390cdd348e6404e46a97e3f35d2be5c25e/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f7444314f4251332e706e67 | Oct 02 11:46 |
| schestowitz | http://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-signature-pc-program-allegedly-blocks-installation-of-linux-or-does-it | Oct 02 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? | HotHardware | Oct 02 11:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54e5w1/microsoft_signature_pc_program_allegedly_blocks/ | Oct 02 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? : linux | Oct 02 11:48 | |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg | Oct 02 12:12 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @jiem1978 favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...' | Oct 02 12:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782528689179426816 | Oct 02 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "competing projects create and spread FUD about Linux | Oct 02 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mint in an effort to promote their own distribution." | Oct 02 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MJXNiXnERO (segfault.linuxmint.com) | Oct 02 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segfault.linuxmint.com | Addressing FUD ← Segfault | Oct 02 12:13 | |
| cubexyz | oh dear... | Oct 02 12:21 |
| cubexyz | https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/10/01/2155209/multiple-linux-distributions-affected-by-crippling-bug-in-systemd | Oct 02 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Multiple Linux Distributions Affected By Crippling Bug In Systemd - Slashdot | Oct 02 12:21 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpg | Oct 02 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543065571393537 | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives https://t.co/WXp7PRgY2C | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543067450441730 | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/iO4C5DPSJG | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543069212139520 | Oct 02 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uzwoydirQw | Oct 02 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543071225389056 | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/8dCqMvb47I | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543072433352704 | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/wIkEXy5q11 | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543132567146496 | Oct 02 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Oct 02 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016: | Oct 02 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXE | Oct 02 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Techrights | Oct 02 12:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916536 | Oct 02 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The media no longer seems to be interested in us showing it that #lenovo lied. I guess they see no business model/gain in it.Like #superfish | Oct 02 12:41 | |
| cubexyz | not to often I see Plan 9 advocacy | Oct 02 12:41 |
| cubexyz | honestly though it's simpler just to use slack | Oct 02 12:53 |
| cubexyz | If I'm doing the programming you can be sure I'm going to test on openbsd, slackware, FC1, and maybe Fedora 14 | Oct 02 12:59 |
| cubexyz | I stopped using Fedora after version 14 | Oct 02 12:59 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/mNxDJU5 | Oct 02 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This site login - Imgur | Oct 02 14:09 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's an interesting way of exploit protection. | Oct 02 14:10 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 14:11 |
| XRevan86 | "You're using eval? You should think of security: forbid quotation mark usage." | Oct 02 14:11 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/MSF89TT.gifv | Oct 02 14:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Oct 02 14:32 | |
| cubexyz | ummm | Oct 02 14:37 |
| cubexyz | yeah the word shell definitely could be part of an email address | Oct 02 14:38 |
| cubexyz | lol at the tetris pic | Oct 02 14:40 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/jJ80AgJ.jpg | Oct 02 15:11 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aE42F1B.png | Oct 02 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So was faith of most of Russians. But then Yeltsin fixed it by making capitalism worse than Gorbachov's reforms. | Oct 02 15:26 |
| MinceR | that is, in russia | Oct 02 15:28 |
| MinceR | he couldn't make it worse anywhere else | Oct 02 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | I think Yeltsin is the reason why Russian population in general doesn't like regime changes. | Oct 02 15:29 |
| MinceR | but putler will | Oct 02 15:29 |
| XRevan86 | They know on their skin it can get much worse. | Oct 02 15:29 |
| XRevan86 | Because even Gorbachov wasn't that bad as what regime change delivered. | Oct 02 15:30 |
| XRevan86 | > he couldn't make it worse anywhere else | Oct 02 15:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's a weird thought. | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | why would it be? | Oct 02 15:33 |
| XRevan86 | It's very hard to make worse something that was already near bottom. | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | global nuclear winter will make capitalism worse | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | as in, we all starve to death | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | plants die without light | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | anything that eats plants dies without food | Oct 02 15:33 |
| XRevan86 | People genuinely thought any change could go only up because below was only the floor. | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | they'll find out that it can indeed get worse | Oct 02 15:34 |
| MinceR | and maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worse | Oct 02 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I mean, realisticly worse. | Oct 02 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | not nuclear worse | Oct 02 15:34 |
| MinceR | that's quite realistic | Oct 02 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | > and maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worse | Oct 02 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | Humans are jerks. | Oct 02 15:35 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | Don't blame the 1%, blame the 100%. | Oct 02 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | Damn, I hope that won't catch on. | Oct 02 15:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 15:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/09/30/mads-caption-contest-winner | Oct 02 15:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | MAD’s Caption Contest Winner! | Mad Magazine | Oct 02 15:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782545040946192384 | Oct 02 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Oct 02 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016: | Oct 02 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXE | Oct 02 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Techrights | Oct 02 15:48 | |
| MinceR | http://wandpcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/WandP49site.png | Oct 02 15:51 |
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| cubexyz | oh boy, someone at google books got CPE Bach and Johann Sebastian Bach mixed up | Oct 02 16:31 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 16:32 |
| cubexyz | rather disappointing | Oct 02 16:32 |
| cubexyz | Carl was the 2nd son of Johann Sebastian in case anyone was wondering | Oct 02 16:38 |
| cubexyz | 1714 to 1788 | Oct 02 16:39 |
| MinceR | http://www.sciencealert.com/80-of-the-data-in-chinese-clinical-trial-is-fabricated | Oct 02 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-80% of data in Chinese clinical trials have been fabricated - ScienceAlert | Oct 02 16:40 | |
| cubexyz | I was a bit taken aback over the price of the Novena | Oct 02 16:42 |
| cubexyz | $500 for just the motherboard | Oct 02 16:42 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Z1h6NjN | Oct 02 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Great sorting job Outlook for Mac - very useful - Imgur | Oct 02 16:42 | |
| MinceR | too bad the novena case is not conducive for use in lap | Oct 02 16:42 |
| MinceR | the same issue exists with most "2 in 1"s | Oct 02 16:43 |
| cubexyz | what's the problem with it? | Oct 02 16:43 |
| cubexyz | I suppose you mean the monitor being turned around the other way? | Oct 02 16:43 |
| MinceR | there's no place where you can put the keyboard that is connected to the display so you can hold the whole thing by holding on to the keyboard/wristpad | Oct 02 16:44 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 02 16:44 |
| MinceR | so either the computer or the keyboard will fall off your lap | Oct 02 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Juve translation is half done. | Oct 02 16:44 |
| schestowitz | to be posted in techrights soon, re EPO lies | Oct 02 16:44 |
| cubexyz | I can't think of anything decent laptop-wise other than chromebooks | Oct 02 16:45 |
| cubexyz | I guess X200 with libreboot would be OK | Oct 02 16:46 |
| MinceR | thinkpads still seem to be fine, aside from the usual issues like intel ME and m$ tax | Oct 02 16:46 |
| cubexyz | well you'd most likely be looking at a used one for X200 | Oct 02 16:47 |
| MinceR | i mostly looked at the x260 | Oct 02 16:48 |
| MinceR | comes with an intel gpu that's more powerful than any gpu i ever had | Oct 02 16:48 |
| MinceR | and finally they made them black again | Oct 02 16:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL...' | Oct 02 16:49 | |
| cubexyz | the old R30's weren't very repairable :-/ | Oct 02 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782607511815847936 | Oct 02 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW | Oct 02 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 16:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 16:50 | |
| MinceR | well, the R series was the old cheapness-oriented series, wasn't it? | Oct 02 16:50 |
| cubexyz | could be | Oct 02 16:50 |
| cubexyz | that x260 is going to generate a lot of heat | Oct 02 16:51 |
| MinceR | i didn't have issues with cooling before, except when there was accumulated dust in my x220it | Oct 02 16:52 |
| cubexyz | but it looks pretty decent otherwise... if you ignore the win10 preloaded | Oct 02 16:52 |
| MinceR | i cleaned it out and the issue went away | Oct 02 16:52 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Oct 02 16:52 |
| MinceR | according to https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X260 it still supports legacy boot | Oct 02 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.freebsd.org | Laptops/Thinkpad_X260 - FreeBSD Wiki | Oct 02 16:52 | |
| cubexyz | that's a big plus | Oct 02 16:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 16:53 |
| MinceR | as far as i'm concerned, a requirement :> | Oct 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144 | Oct 02 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/ | Oct 02 16:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Really. I was thinking of getting a Lenovo machine. Well I better stay with Dell, they make great machines." | Oct 02 16:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW' | Oct 02 16:54 | |
| cubexyz | I can report the HP chromebook 14 with Tegra K1 doesn't get hot at all | Oct 02 16:54 |
| MinceR | lol, dHell | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Acer and ASUS are OK also, maybe HP | Oct 02 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights | Oct 02 16:54 | |
| cubexyz | and it's fanless... had it in my lap for hours | Oct 02 16:54 |
| MinceR | schestowitz had complaints about an hp chromebook | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139 | Oct 02 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpg | Oct 02 16:54 | |
| MinceR | (the keyboard, specifically) | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | we returned it | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | swapped for Acer | Oct 02 16:54 |
| cubexyz | it's tolerable :) | Oct 02 16:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: ^ your image ago | Oct 02 16:55 |
| schestowitz | *above | Oct 02 16:55 |
| cubexyz | not the greatest, I admit | Oct 02 16:55 |
| MinceR | too bad hp's website is a total pain in the ass to use | Oct 02 16:55 |
| schestowitz | "Ah, Okay." | Oct 02 16:55 |
| schestowitz | "Why are people complaining about the change?" | Oct 02 16:55 |
| schestowitz | "http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemd" | Oct 02 16:55 |
| MinceR | so i have no idea what i'd buy if i were to buy hp | Oct 02 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for you | Oct 02 16:55 | |
| cubexyz | I don't even really like talking to HP | Oct 02 16:55 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure they don't enjoy talking to me much either | Oct 02 16:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 16:55 |
| cubexyz | but I still use two of their computers and they're not bad | Oct 02 16:56 |
| MinceR | it's nice to have more data points | Oct 02 16:57 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, I'll have to look at the acer with Tegra K1 | Oct 02 16:58 |
| cubexyz | almost everything comes with win10 | Oct 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RichardBaeck/status/782612592657330178 | Oct 02 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardBaeck: RT @schestowitz #Bees added to US endangered species list for the first time https://t.co/kXAWhF9EXR it's starting | Oct 02 17:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://gnusocial.de/url/3144843 ) | Oct 02 17:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AnarchistDalek/status/782613687257313280 | Oct 02 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnarchistDalek: 🤔 https://t.co/QyvXXFnMUi | Oct 02 17:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Read this: https://t.co/OEyumMGvUQ And then this: https://t.co/FEGKzKqOOB Some people pretend better https://t.co/dZAc866OIe | Oct 02 17:13 | |
| cubexyz | lenovo has got 325 thumbs down so far :) | Oct 02 17:39 |
| schestowitz | where? | Oct 02 17:45 |
| cubexyz | just the pic being downloaded 325 times | Oct 02 17:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/god-the-action-figure.jpg | Oct 02 17:46 |
| cubexyz | with AK-47? | Oct 02 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Looks like a jedi | Oct 02 17:47 |
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| XRevan86 | > with kalashnikov AK-47 | Oct 02 17:49 |
| XRevan86 | Tautology. | Oct 02 17:49 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/O5aX0rC | Oct 02 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discard submission? Cancel uploads? I don't know what to do, Imgur... - Imgur | Oct 02 18:16 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7912310 | Oct 02 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lenovo is lying about #microsoft #linux and now about #layoffs http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.htm just as it lied about #superfish repeatedly | Oct 02 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft At Fault? : Tech : Gamenguide | Oct 02 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | "So they’ve been telling lies by making out it was a Linux Kernel problem." | Oct 02 18:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139 | Oct 02 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpg | Oct 02 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | "Although I don’t use Debian, I did not understand why they made this move considering their philosophy." | Oct 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "Quiero llorar." | Oct 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "What? The choice of systemd over the previous system (what was the name of the previus system)??" | Oct 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "Prior to systemD was sysVInit." | Oct 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "Ah, Okay." | Oct 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | "Why are people complaining about the change?" | Oct 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemd | Oct 02 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for you [ http://ur1.ca/ptxau ] | Oct 02 19:00 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8v | Oct 02 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google wasn't much help with physics homework - Imgur | Oct 02 19:03 | |
| MinceR | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd | Oct 02 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Arguments against systemd - Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jwtd5 ] | Oct 02 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916622 | Oct 02 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoft | Oct 02 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz | He’s on the wrong side. Generous or not. | Oct 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe there were generous Nazis too…but still it’s on the wrong side. | Oct 02 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo Community | Oct 02 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft MVPs compared to Nazis... :/ :-S | Oct 02 19:07 |
| MinceR | nazis were pretty evil | Oct 02 19:09 |
| MinceR | still are | Oct 02 19:09 |
| cubexyz | hopefully we can guilt Lenovo into fixing their bios | Oct 02 19:10 |
| MinceR | and their customer service | Oct 02 19:13 |
| MinceR | and their attitude | Oct 02 19:13 |
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| cubexyz | helping people use windows isn't really helping them | Oct 02 19:33 |
| cubexyz | each generation will get more and more dependent on Microsoft and less and less able to do things for themselves | Oct 02 19:34 |
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| cubexyz | I remember one guy putting a new version of windows on their computer... | Oct 02 19:36 |
| cubexyz | he couldn't use his scanner or his printer afterwards | Oct 02 19:36 |
| cubexyz | he went out and bought a new printer and new scanner... duh! | Oct 02 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | [19:03] <MinceR> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8v | Oct 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz | wrong answer. | Oct 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz | maybe 'ai' bs failure | Oct 02 19:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/782609646133518336 | Oct 02 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW | Oct 02 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 19:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 19:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @SwellnessYoga http://twitter.com/SwellnessYoga/status/782611963637620740 | Oct 02 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest SWELLNESS YOGA! https://t.co/pIYygKwuxT | Oct 02 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @nomondeb73 @tw57704087 @tuxmachines | Oct 02 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #yoga #fitness | Oct 02 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | SWELLNESS YOGA | Oct 02 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 19:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/782652057161461760 | Oct 02 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @AntiSoftwarePat @zoobab @schestowitz Have you guys seen Australia's Productivity Commission's IP report? Slams Software Patents | Oct 02 19:46 | |
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| MinceR | https://65.media.tumblr.com/363171b17c048cb26acbb9c9ea9f0175/tumblr_odk9o0nqMN1s02vreo1_250.gif | Oct 02 20:29 |
| cubexyz | the local computer store is selling Gigabyte 5010 no OS computers | Oct 02 20:38 |
| cubexyz | spam alert for tuxmachines | Oct 02 20:58 |
| cubexyz | football streaming links | Oct 02 20:58 |
| cubexyz | American Football I think :) | Oct 02 20:59 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHA | Oct 02 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Banach–Tarski Paradox - YouTube | Oct 02 21:18 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/50V1VAB.jpg | Oct 02 21:28 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They just approved a couple of posts to the ISK2 topic. | Oct 02 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | I know they're blocking some because one of my posts didn't appear and I've heard from someone else that it took 3 days before theirs did. | Oct 02 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6 | Oct 02 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6 ) | Oct 02 21:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, the 900S is worse. You can't even dump the BIOS at all according to one person on this forum. | Oct 02 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that annoying "Get Windows 10" app was hidden in a critical security update to Internet Explorer. | Oct 02 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Interesting. | Oct 02 21:45 |
| MinceR | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/151093453030/gdb | Oct 02 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | gdb - DevOps Reactions | Oct 02 22:07 | |
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| brendyn | Is this legit, https://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.html ? | Oct 02 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkerer [ http://ur1.ca/ptyq6 ] | Oct 02 22:22 | |
| MinceR | dunno, i pretty much reflexively close that page | Oct 02 22:24 |
| MinceR | a clean fork would be welcome | Oct 02 22:26 |
| MinceR | i guess it will be inevitable anyway if noscript updates to fit the chrome-ish API in the newer, shittier failfox | Oct 02 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Matthew Garrett is retweeting Donald Trump. | Oct 02 22:42 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 02 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Garrett is British. They seem to have no shortage of Trump clones over there. | Oct 02 22:42 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 22:42 |
| MinceR | re the second sentence | Oct 02 22:42 |
| MinceR | dunno about the first | Oct 02 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson.... | Oct 02 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | At least Garrett can stay over there and screw his own country. | Oct 02 22:43 |
| MinceR | looks like we're all screwed | Oct 02 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, most "Western Democracies" are showing that they don't deserve democracy much more than the Islamic Republics do. :P | Oct 02 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Truly sad. I mean, you'd expect what happens when you give a bunch of Muslims a democracy... | Oct 02 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | We get some of the ones that are trying to flee what the others are doing to them. | Oct 02 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | And we get some of the ones that are hardliners too. They come over here and tell us how much they hate us. | Oct 02 22:46 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 22:46 |
| MinceR | and the savages in the west are coming out of the woodwork | Oct 02 22:46 |
| MinceR | for brexit, Golden Dawnald, and for other calls | Oct 02 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's scary how close Trump is in the polls. | Oct 02 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that he *could* win. The fact that someone like him could come back in 4-8 years and be that close even if he doesn't. | Oct 02 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing that we can really hope for is that demographic shift happens. Clinton gets in and we get business as usual again while the people who like Trump fade a little bit more. (They're dying off but they're dangerous because they know they're fading and so nearly all of them are going to vote.) | Oct 02 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | That's what we have going on. He's whipping the vote. | Oct 02 22:50 |
| MinceR | maybe we'll find a way to only kill off humans, leaving the rest of the biosphere intact | Oct 02 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, the other side is lukewarm about Hillary so even though we theoretically outnumber Trump's supporters, the turnout will be lower. | Oct 02 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | If it wasn't for Republican voters being older and more of them dying off then Trump would probably win this year. | Oct 02 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | If we had an exact repeat of the 2012 election (turnout, demographics, etc.) Obama would have a net total of about 453,000 more votes. | Oct 02 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Clinton I mean. | Oct 02 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | But she's not making people feel good about voting for her. Her entire campaign is "I'm not Trump.". | Oct 02 22:53 |
| MinceR | hm, NotTrump sounds pretty good | Oct 02 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Would the extra die off on the Republican side help by itself? | Oct 02 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Depends on where they die. | Oct 02 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | The Electoral College means that if most of them die in, say, Texas, that doesn't really help Clinton. | Oct 02 22:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/1sDkHgZ | Oct 02 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-420 install it - Imgur | Oct 02 22:55 | |
| DaemonFC | If more of them die in states like Ohio or North Carolina, it could tip the balance. | Oct 02 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782652807757258752 | Oct 02 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/AWZcX14xhR | Oct 02 22:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782701648288165888 | Oct 02 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships | Oct 02 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 https://t.co/e6FdwTYgTy | Oct 02 23:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 | Tux Machines | Oct 02 23:00 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/NG3VX | Oct 02 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- TV thinks Will Smith is Japanese? ウィル・スミス - Album on Imgur | Oct 02 23:19 | |
| DaemonFC | I just read Matthew Garrett's response to the Lenovo thing in full. | Oct 02 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | "The number of people who buy these laptops to run anything but Windows is miniscule[...]" So why increase your support costs? | Oct 02 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm. Seems to me that about 2% would eventually install Linux (conservative estimate). If they sell for $1300-$1,500 apiece and people know not to buy them now, that means that for every 1,000 laptops that they would have sold, they now sell 20 fewer units, and those sales go to a competitor. | Oct 02 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | If they sell a million laptops, then they lose 20,000 sales to a competitor. | Oct 02 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | It might not sound like much, but it is. PC margins are thin because there are a lot of PC OEMs that make computers that are similar and "good enough". Chances are their profit margin is only 3-5%, maybe. | Oct 02 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | I hear that's the norm in PC sales, and that's for units with crapware, but I'm sure that Lenovo is either getting rebates for participating in Signature or just passed along the cost of not bundling the crapware to me. | Oct 02 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | Regardless, PC sales have been in decline for years. | Oct 02 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo suffered a 4.2% year over year decline in Q4 2015 vs Q4 2014. | Oct 02 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Do they really want to go back and say they declined more this quarter? Looks that way. | Oct 02 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | They could have released a BIOS patch for Linux users immediately, but they chose to give their customers the middle finger and ride this thing into the ground instead. | Oct 02 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure Dell or HP will appreciate the new customers. | Oct 02 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I would have bought an HP Spectre or a Dell XPS had I known. | Oct 02 23:32 |
| MinceR | dHell doesn't appreciate customers, only their money | Oct 02 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They responded by re-enabling the AHCI option instead of lying to their customers. | Oct 02 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | That's better than what Lenovo did. | Oct 02 23:34 |
| cubexyz | it is | Oct 02 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like every time I buy a computer, an OEM has done something to fuck up Linux. | Oct 02 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Usually something stupid. Usually something I've never seen them do before. | Oct 02 23:35 |
| MinceR | they responded to me by claiming the keyboard is not under warranty, and by claiming they have no idea when they'll have replacement parts | Oct 02 23:35 |
| MinceR | also by replacing the faulty GPU with another faulty GPU | Oct 02 23:35 |
| MinceR | so fuck dHell | Oct 02 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | So a pattern emerges. And if you approach it as an isolated incident, people say "It was just an innocent mistake.". | Oct 02 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | But if they all do it nearly every time they release something, I believe there are....other resons. | Oct 02 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Shame on Matthew Garrett for excusing this. He's made more blog posts than I can count on how OEMs try to detect Linux and then hand it a shitty configuration. | Oct 02 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | He even admitted in one of them that they detect Linux by which version of ACPI it says it supports and then hand it off to the kernel without setting up the audio chipset or telling it there are the wrong number of function keys. | Oct 02 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | So he had to patch it to say the same thing Windows returns (2 instead of 5) so that the firmware wouldn't fuck up the configuration before handing off to Linux. | Oct 02 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | He doesn't see a problem with that? | Oct 02 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | Or if he does he blames the vendor. | Oct 02 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/34542.html | Oct 02 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Vendors continue to break things | Oct 02 23:40 | |
| DaemonFC | There's the post if anyone is interested. | Oct 02 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782701649684856832 | Oct 02 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with | Oct 02 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Various Improvements https://t.co/3jpeQ7mFiu | Oct 02 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 23:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with Various Improvements | Tux Machines | Oct 02 23:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships...' | Oct 02 23:52 | |
| cubexyz | it's all horse-bleep | Oct 03 00:10 |
| cubexyz | there's secret stuff in the firmware and you can dance around that all day but in the end you don't know what's going on | Oct 03 00:11 |
| cubexyz | and the newer hardware is much harder to understand than the older stuff | Oct 03 00:12 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/intel-me-secrets.pdf | Oct 03 00:16 |
| cubexyz | intel's running ThreadX in there | Oct 03 00:23 |
| cubexyz | it can lock out memory from the host CPU | Oct 03 00:25 |
| cubexyz | maybe I can visually inspect the board and know if it's got vpro or not | Oct 03 00:30 |
| cubexyz | if it's baked into the CPU (which I suspect it is) then I need a list of CPUs to avoid | Oct 03 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Wikipedia says it's in the motherboard, but I suspect that it will be in the CPU eventually if it isn't already. | Oct 03 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | They've been moving things away from the motherboard and into the CPU. Including the integrated graphics. It's why motherboards are so cheap now. | Oct 03 00:34 |
| cubexyz | Intel® DH82B85 PCH, no vPro but still has ME | Oct 03 00:36 |
| cubexyz | and they are already up to ME 9.0 | Oct 03 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware. | Oct 03 00:39 |
| cubexyz | there's something called the MEBx | Oct 03 00:39 |
| cubexyz | the Management Engine BIOS eXtension | Oct 03 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Some Intel CPUs seem to be designed to lock up mysteriously after half an hour if the Management Engine isn't working for some reason. | Oct 03 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to make sure the firmware loads or your PC freezes up. | Oct 03 00:40 |
| MinceR | what do chromebooks do about this? | Oct 03 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | Probably load the ME, MinceR | Oct 03 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | But some Chromebooks are ditching Intel. | Oct 03 00:41 |
| MinceR | afaik they don't load it | Oct 03 00:42 |
| cubexyz | you can build your own custom BIOS on chromebooks | Oct 03 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | The Acers seem to be going with ARM now. | Oct 03 00:42 |
| MinceR | 03 013929 < DaemonFC> cubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware. | Oct 03 00:42 |
| MinceR | the whole point of "intel boot guard" was to lock alternative firmware (like coreboot and libreboot) out of the market | Oct 03 00:42 |
| MinceR | it was a very microsoftian move | Oct 03 00:42 |
| cubexyz | you can hack on the chromebooks, so I'm not worried about those | Oct 03 00:42 |
| cubexyz | I have all that code | Oct 03 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Eventually it will detect BIOS mods that you flashed in with an external flasher and refuse to boot. | Oct 03 00:43 |
| cubexyz | if there's anything nasty in there I'll know about it | Oct 03 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think they're there yet because replacement BIOSes seem to work on the Yoga 900 ISK2 with Skylake. | Oct 03 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | But it won't let you flash it in without aa flasher unless there's a signature from Insyde or Lenovo on the ROM. | Oct 03 00:44 |
| cubexyz | X200 with libreboot is pretty safe | Oct 03 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't seem to use checksum verification because the modded ROM that the guy on Lenovo Forums used wouldn't have matched the ROM that he pulled. | Oct 03 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing the people on the bios-mods forum seem to have done is remove code hiding some BIOS menus that are present but hidden by Lenovo. | Oct 03 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | "bownairo" said he'd be looking into a way to fool the system into letting you flash without an external flasher. | Oct 03 00:46 |
| MinceR | it seems to me that if IT is to survive at all, the free software/hardware community will have to take the whole stack in our own hands | Oct 03 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | If that happens, users can fix their system themselves without a patch from Lenovo. | Oct 03 00:46 |
| MinceR | we'll have to figure out how to make cpus and computers from scratch | Oct 03 00:46 |
| cubexyz | well, the ultimate hack would be your own FPGA | Oct 03 00:46 |
| MinceR | intel and all the others will only try to shit on everything we do | Oct 03 00:46 |
| MinceR | we'll also need free fpga tools | Oct 03 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Richard Stallman's solution is probably the easiest. | Oct 03 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Buy a laptop from China that uses an ARM platform and was made to run Linux. | Oct 03 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | If there was some way to set up a reliable supply chain for those, I'm sure that someone could have a somewhat profitable business selling them to people who want to get away from the Wintel PC and all of the horrible things it does to Linux, totally by accident of course. :P | Oct 03 00:48 |
| MinceR | ARM isn't very friendly either, afaik | Oct 03 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Depends on who is making them. | Oct 03 00:49 |
| MinceR | for every SoC you have to figure out how you can initialize the hw, how you can boot your code, etc. | Oct 03 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's just an ISA that you can license. | Oct 03 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone who can come up with the licensing money can make ARM CPUs. | Oct 03 00:49 |
| MinceR | and for most SoC makers/designers we are such a tiny part of the market that they just don't care about us at all | Oct 03 00:49 |
| MinceR | see how far CubieBoard got with their stuff | Oct 03 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Intel's mobile platforms are essentially SoC now. | Oct 03 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | They have the controllers for damned near everything in the CPU package. | Oct 03 00:50 |
| cubexyz | well IBM Thinkpad 700 is 1992.. I figure that's old enough :) | Oct 03 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | That's why it's so hard to get power management right. You used to be able to do power management by component. If you got most of it down, the rest didn't really matter that much. | Oct 03 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | Putting the SATA controller in low poer mode maybe saved you half a watt. | Oct 03 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | Now if you can't get that right, the whole system breaks down and you're idling at twice the power consumption you should be at. | Oct 03 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | *power | Oct 03 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | And if you figure that out, there's half a dozen things that you also need to figure out or you're back in the same boat. | Oct 03 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | So I don't expect that Linux will ever have the power management Windows does for Skylake. | Oct 03 00:53 |
| MinceR | that depends on whether m$'s final gambits succeed or not | Oct 03 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | It'll improve, like it has been, but it will reach a point where all of the easier things have been done and people lose interest. | Oct 03 00:53 |
| MinceR | if they succeed, it's possible that it won't even be legal to run anything but the one government-approved thin client OS anymore | Oct 03 00:53 |
| MinceR | if they fail, they'll go full patent troll and there won't be a "windows" anymore | Oct 03 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | What really pisses me off to no end is that MS has released probably thousands of patches to individual components of Windows 10 by now, and saying each time that it makes Windows more reliable. | Oct 03 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | So why am I still hitting most of the same bugs that were in the first release? | Oct 03 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | People know that and they know that even if the update installs and their machine comes back up that it won't be more reliable. | Oct 03 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | So they've taken to disabling the Windows Update service so they don't have a bad update that screws up their data. | Oct 03 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | That's not good either. | Oct 03 00:55 |
| cubexyz | you can disable AMT control on some intel motherboards | Oct 03 00:59 |
| cubexyz | now who knows if it can be reactivated | Oct 03 00:59 |
| cubexyz | but if you compile your own coreboot BIOS on a chrome-whatever, I feel that is your best bet | Oct 03 01:00 |
| cubexyz | or (not ideal) you could just run one old machine | Oct 03 01:01 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with Various...' | Oct 03 01:11 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHCHEykUxP4 | Oct 03 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spooky Coincidences? - YouTube | Oct 03 01:14 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: I suspect where this video is going and I like to see that message covered. | Oct 03 01:18 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55fxyk/lenovo_forums_seems_to_have_possibly_banned_all/ | Oct 03 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Forums seems to have (possibly?) banned all Comcast users in the state of Illinois in order to try to silence the discussion of Linux on Yoga problems. : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/ptzd9 ] | Oct 03 01:19 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]fringewanderer 1 point an hour ago | Oct 03 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | When you say "no Linux support", do you mean providing and supporting drivers for user Linux installations? If so which hardware components? | Oct 03 01:19 |
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| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 19 minutes ago | Oct 03 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | They wrote BIOS code to hide and write protect the fake "RAID" mode that these damned things ship with in order to fool Windows into loading a different driver with a better power management policy. | Oct 03 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | So now you can't install Linux to the SSD, all because they removed the compatible AHCI mode from the BIOS. | Oct 03 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Probably the most realistic solution, if anyone ever implements it, will be to have the Linux kernel reset the hardware and put it in AHCI mode on every boot. Then we won't need help from Lenovo or a driver for something that gains us...literally nothing even if someone does write one. :P | Oct 03 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Either way, Lenovo's response is that they broke it, they don't care, and just run Windows 10 and shut up. So don't expect a BIOS patch from them, ever. | Oct 03 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Dell and some other OEMs shipped like this but them offered a BIOS patch for their customers. Lenovo just doesn't care. | Oct 03 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Buy a computer from another company, and make sure they haven't done anything like this first. | Oct 03 01:20 |
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| DaemonFC | [–]fringewanderer 1 point 5 minutes ago | Oct 03 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | What would be the best-case scenario for current laptop owners? New firmware release that fixes AHCI mode? | Oct 03 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | Based on what I'm hearing here I guess I'd sum it up as being a cocktail of issues starting with the "bandaid" BIOS fix, then adding passive and poor customer support and topping it all off with forum admins/mods being in the awkward and unempowered position of having no good channels to CS/dev units while also having free reign to handle their own forum situation any way they want. | Oct 03 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Oct 03 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point a minute ago | Oct 03 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | Best case: Linux works around the limitation by resetting the hardware as soon as GRUB loads the kernel (GRUB uses the uEFI disk access so it doesn't need to be patched), and then does so every time the machine is rebooted. | Oct 03 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo won't fix it. Intel won't release specs on how to handle the RAID mode that Lenovo locked it into. That means it's up to the kernel developers to add a quirk to deal with this case. That hasn't been done yet and I'm not sure it ever will unless a Linux developer actually buys such a laptop and is personally inconvenienced, or fixes it for some other reason. Even then, we know we can't trust Lenovo to not break something else, and we | Oct 03 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | know that they don't care if they do. So buy from a different company. | Oct 03 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yep, it's exactly about what I thought it would be about. | Oct 03 01:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 01:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I wonder if it should be banned by the "believers feelings protection law" %) | Oct 03 01:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 03 01:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Pity I can't use that video for people who'd need to see it. | Oct 03 01:27 |
| MinceR | why? | Oct 03 01:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's in English. | Oct 03 01:27 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 03 01:27 |
| XRevan86 | Though it has subs but that's not good enough. | Oct 03 01:28 |
| MinceR | brendyn: looks like uBlock Origin successfully blocks the offending ads on noscript.net | Oct 03 01:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144 | Oct 03 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/ | Oct 03 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | "I don’t like HP now what they did with their printers. Uuuugh. I do have an HP printer though." | Oct 03 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ptv4v ] | Oct 03 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah it’s a nice thing HP did with that printer firmware to say f*** off to custom cartridges…" | Oct 03 01:40 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't really value printing in color, but my printer demands a color cartridge before it will print anything at all. | Oct 03 01:42 |
| MinceR | reason for a separate grayscale printer :> | Oct 03 01:43 |
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| MinceR | (perhaps) | Oct 03 01:43 |
| schestowitz | Green party copied me https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/782660240164712449 | Oct 03 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrJillStein: Polls show a majority of voters backing Clinton and Trump are motivated by fear, not by support for their candidate… https://t.co/eSBp9cNVG9 | Oct 03 01:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrJillStein: Polls show a majority of voters backing Clinton and Trump are motivated by fear, not by support for their candidate… https://t.co/eSBp9cNVG9 | Oct 03 01:51 | |
| schestowitz | after I said the same thing and many people RTd me | Oct 03 01:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782734725953818624 | Oct 03 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/AWZcX14xhR | Oct 03 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 03 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 03 01:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 03 01:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/AWZcX14xhR' | Oct 03 01:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782745508855046144 | Oct 03 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung starts distributing Samsung Z2 in Indonesia. More | Oct 03 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | apps to the Tizen store https://t.co/cIY1gsC2IO | Oct 03 02:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 03 02:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung starts distributing Samsung Z2 in Indonesia. More apps to the Tizen store - Tizen Experts | Oct 03 02:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782746584094302208 | Oct 03 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sony's new phone is Android's answer to the iPhone SE | Oct 03 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0R4Q3EME2W (uk.businessinsider.com) | Oct 03 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 03 02:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Sony Xperia X Compact review: Android's answer to the iPhone SE - Business Insider | Oct 03 02:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782747408740614144 | Oct 03 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Phone For Gamers https://t.co/yfPtHJZiEE | Oct 03 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 03 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Phone For Gamers | Android Central | Oct 03 02:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/782754347411206145 | Oct 03 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: Compare this with the brouhaha over pretty dubious Zika claims prior to the Rio Games. US #MSM make Pravda and Tass… https://t.co/LMrTOUQdBh | Oct 03 02:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: Compare this with the brouhaha over pretty dubious Zika claims prior to the Rio Games. US #MSM make Pravda and Tass… https://t.co/LMrTOUQdBh | Oct 03 02:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782747633085480961 | Oct 03 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mysterious Nokia D1C Android smartphone spotted on | Oct 03 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Geekbench https://t.co/8NlJQY1CHz (www.gsmarena.com) | Oct 03 02:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mysterious Nokia D1C Android smartphone spotted on Geekbench - GSMArena.com news | Oct 03 02:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782751536925511680 | Oct 03 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | T-Mobile G1 revisited: Welcoming Android to the world | Oct 03 02:37 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/brexit-who-has-power-to-change-uk-law.html?showComment=1475409336323#c7540450669000843274 | Oct 03 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Brexit - who has the power to change UK law? [ http://ur1.ca/ptzvb ] | Oct 03 03:10 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 03 03:10 |
| schestowitz | The ECA '72 (passed - obviously - before the '75 referendum and after promises were made that the UK could always veto anything it didn't like - promised by Heath, delivered by Wilson) has within it the seeds of is own destruction. If article 50 is activated then after the two year period there are no obligations "... created or arising under the Treaties ...". Hence no need to repeal the ECA '72 ... in the right circumstances. The question | Oct 03 03:10 |
| schestowitz | is, what are they? | Oct 03 03:10 |
| schestowitz | One line of argument might be that it follows from the above that it is not a matter for parliament to legislate or repeal. The real question might then be whether article 50 is something which can be activated by the government or by the government with the fiat of parliament. It is that uncertainty which will occupy the thinking of the court in the upcoming case. For that reason, whatever the result, it will be helpful. | Oct 03 03:10 |
| schestowitz | Ashley | Oct 03 03:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 03 03:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782513731918004224 | Oct 03 03:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @hintjensyour your flickr/yahoo login has been p0wned :-) | Oct 03 03:16 | |
| DaemonFC | Hmm. Apparently, Tox split off to uTox. The lead developer was embezzling donation money. | Oct 03 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | At least it's open source, so that they can do that. | Oct 03 03:54 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm sure that Tixati will eventually bundle spyware or adware or drive by downloads. If it's for Windows and it's proprietary freeware, it's only a matter of time. | Oct 03 03:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Derivatives https://t.co/kePpWAEvOG | Oct 03 03:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Newly-liberated software https://t.co/1T4LWWQDjC | Oct 03 03:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/V2Scdvy8y4 | Oct 03 03:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkerer | Oct 03 04:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://fabiensanglard.net/doom3/interviews.php | Oct 03 05:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fabiensanglard.net | Doom3 Source Code Review: Interviews | Oct 03 05:24 | |
| DaemonFC | Fabien Sanglard - The rendering system is now broken down in a frontend/backend: It reminds me of the design of a compiler which usually has a frontend->IR->backend pipeline. What this inspired by the design of LCC which was used for Quake3 bytecode generation ? I wonder what are the advantages over a monolithic renderer like Doom, idTech1 and idTech2. | Oct 03 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | John Carmack - This was explicitly to support dual processor systems. It worked well on my dev system, but it never seemed stable enough in broad use, so we backed off from it. Interestingly, we only just found out last year why it was problematic (the same thing applied to Rage’s r_useSMP option, which we had to disable on the PC) – on windows, OpenGL can only safely draw to a window that was created by the same thread. We created | Oct 03 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | the window on the launch thread, but then did all the rendering on a separate render thread. It would be nice if doing this just failed with a clear error, but instead it works on some systems and randomly fails on others for no apparent reason. | Oct 03 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | The Doom 4 codebase now jumps through hoops to create the game window from the render thread and pump messages on it, but the better solution, which I have implemented in another project under development, is to leave the rendering on the launch thread, and run the game logic in the spawned thread. | Oct 03 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775835832889344 | Oct 03 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/Wqjy2OkxT2 | Oct 03 05:37 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://www.alexstjohn.com/WP/2016/10/02/doom-for-windows/ | Oct 03 05:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexstjohn.com | Doom for Windows - The SaintThe Saint | Oct 03 05:54 | |
| DaemonFC | The creator of DirectX isn't pleased with Windows Update. | Oct 03 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | It ruined a business meeting and he ended up having to use his customer's Macbook because Windows Update made his computer useless for the whole meeting. | Oct 03 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | I remember Windows 98...There was no automatic update. YOu had to go to Microsoft's website and have Internet Explorer install the updates. | Oct 03 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.alexstjohn.com/WP/2015/07/27/windows-update-sorry-my-bad/ | Oct 03 06:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexstjohn.com | Windows Update... sorry my bad... - The SaintThe Saint | Oct 03 06:05 | |
| DaemonFC | "Windows update was born from a technology tragedy that occurred in 1994 that I like to call “The Disney Lion King Disaster” of which I was a central participant." | Oct 03 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | I remember that. | Oct 03 06:05 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Alex St. John: "Windows is obsolete." | Oct 03 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | "So here’s what’s coming. One day soon, Microsoft will accidentally blow up millions of machines in a way they can’t recover from. The evidence is that they have completely lost control of the OS and their ability to maintain it. A massive scale forced update with the obvious flaws we just experienced has only two obvious explanations." | Oct 03 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 03 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 03 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | Alex St. John (Creator of the DirectX API for Windows): | Oct 03 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | "Windows is obsolete" and one day soon, Microsoft will screw up and send out a forced update to Windows 10 that screws up millions of computers in a way that they can't recover from. | Oct 03 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | I believe it. The stories of broken updates are flooding into the PC news sites every time MS releases one. If you haven't been hit with one yet, you're lucky. | Oct 03 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | He continues, | Oct 03 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | I used to enjoy writing funny articles about how inept Microsoft was being with consumer stuff but this is a dangerous situation that has already spiraled out of control. Oh yes, I nearly forgot to tie this together… here’s the text my son had sent me before I walked in to do that presentation; | Oct 03 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | “Don’t turn on your computer, you’ll get a forced Windows 10 Update that will screw up your machine. It kept rebooting and updating my machine in class, it took me hours to fix! There’s alerts all over the Internet about it!” | Oct 03 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Yeah, the Chromebook Pixel might have been a better choice. | Oct 03 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | They don'tt come with huge amounts of RAM, but it's Linux so you really don't need it. | Oct 03 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | Windows has always been pretty wasteful with RAM. We're getting to the point now where 16 GB is the "sweet spot" for Windows 10. | Oct 03 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | And you don't even want to consider less than 8. | Oct 03 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | Around 2002, I was using the "Configure your own Mac Pro." thing on Apple's website and drooling that if I only spent $25,000 I could have a computer with 16 GB of RAM. :) | Oct 03 06:42 |
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| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/news/no-free-upgrades-no-new-users-windows-10-declines-for-first-time-since-launch-508853.shtml | Oct 03 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | No Free Upgrades, No New Users: Windows 10 Declines for First Time Since Launch | Oct 03 07:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/782825879747559424 | Oct 03 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 Kernel | Oct 03 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @lordbaco https://t.co/2JvgOZ06bj (www.phoronix.com) Linux 4.8 | Oct 03 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Released https://t.co/rNbYm7FAoA | Oct 03 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 03 07:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Officially Released, Merge Window for Kernel 4.9 Now Open | Oct 03 07:43 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: " | Oct 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Windows failed to make the leap to new business models and new distributed computing paradigms such that now in the year 2016 Microsoft is on the cutting edge of adopting Apple’s 2007 business model for Windows 10. Here’s why Microsoft has reached the end of its road. They lost the mobile market, they lost search, they’re struggling to compete in the cloud and all they have left is a legacy OS with an architecture from the days of | Oct 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | personal computing when connectivity was something only nerds and IT managers worried about. Now the idea of personal computer security is collapsing. It is readily becoming apparent that NOTHING can stop malicious attackers from eventually penetrating the best most advanced security measures of any personal device. Furthermore, as the Edward Snowden scandal has made plain to us all, if malicious attackers aren’t breaking into our | Oct 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | computers, then the worlds governments are requiring companies to make their products vulnerable to intrusion. The idea that a lowly personal computer behind a frail consumer router… made in China… stands any chance of resisting serious hacking attempts is a fast fading dream. | Oct 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Back when I was making online game publishing DRM (Digital Rights Management) Solutions we measured the time it took Chinese and Russian hackers to crack our best latest security attempts in weeks. Today it can take a matter of days or hours. | Oct 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | The Windows Operating system has become vast, bloated and cumbersome to maintain. It faces constant security bombardment by the entire worlds connected hacker community and government security agencies. The volume of patches it needs to maintain even the most rudimentary pretext of stability and security requires a constant and overwhelming flood of Windows updates. The seriousness of the situation and the sheer flood of data Microsoft | Oct 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | is constantly sending to our computers is staggering. I wanted to show a screen shot of my HUGE Windows Update history but mysteriously, after this most recent disastrous update… Microsoft has seen fit to clear my machine of that information… | Oct 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | I like it... | Oct 03 08:07 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That about sums up my experience. | Oct 03 08:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, Vista 10, some say, will finish them | Oct 03 08:12 |
| schestowitz | but Lenovo ensures you can't go elsewhere | Oct 03 08:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe that's the next 'best thing' | Oct 03 08:13 |
| schestowitz | Next to 'free' upgrades | Oct 03 08:13 |
| schestowitz | and UEFI | Oct 03 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | Every time you're doing something, another 600 MB-4GB update comes along and wants to monopolize your internet connection, then tie up your computer, and then restart. | Oct 03 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's verry aggravating. | Oct 03 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | And that's *if* it installs and *if* it restarts. | Oct 03 08:13 |
| schestowitz | ha | Oct 03 08:14 |
| schestowitz | the botney | Oct 03 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah. They resort to these pathetic obstacles so you can't leave Windows no matter what it does. | Oct 03 08:14 |
| schestowitz | WU | Oct 03 08:14 |
| schestowitz | (botnet | Oct 03 08:14 |
| schestowitz | microsoft is trying to limit choice, says it “loves Linux”, Lies. | Oct 03 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, first thing I disabled. The "p2p" updates. | Oct 03 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | Hijack your internet connection and make you pay Microsoft's bandwidth bills to get you to upgrade other people's computers. | Oct 03 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah, some people were defending Microsoft because Windows has Bash now, and that's basically all you need Linux for really. :P | Oct 03 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Colombia’s rejection of a peace deal with Farc rebels to end 52 years of war does not mean an automatic return to hostilities, but it makes the possibility of peace, which had looked close enough to touch, once again a faraway prospect. | Oct 03 08:19 |
| schestowitz | All the pieces were in place to begin implementation of a deal that was four years in the making after talks between government and Farc negotiators in Havana. The Farc had ratified the accord at a national conference, President Juan Manuel Santos and Farc leader Timochenko had signed it in a public ceremony and UN monitors were ready to oversee the bringing together and disarmament of the Farc’s 5,800 fighters. The Nobel committee was | Oct 03 08:19 |
| schestowitz | reportedly considering a peace prize for Colombia. | Oct 03 08:19 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/03/colombias-peace-further-away-is-further-away-but-it-may-still | Oct 03 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Colombia’s Brexit moment as politicians misjudge popular anger at Farc amnesty | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pu146 ] | Oct 03 08:19 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-colombia-peace-idUSKCN1230BH?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews | Oct 03 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Colombia's Santos, FARC scramble to revive peace after shock vote | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/pu149 ] | Oct 03 08:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Legends of Linux Part 1: Linus Torvalds | Oct 03 08:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 1: Linus Torvalds | TheINQUIRER | Oct 03 08:52 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Hopefully a fix for this RAID mode crap on my laptop can be done for Linux 4.9. | Oct 03 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | Not counting on it though. | Oct 03 08:57 |
| schestowitz | maybe | Oct 03 09:02 |
| schestowitz | but it should already work | Oct 03 09:02 |
| schestowitz | Lenovo doesn't want it to | Oct 03 09:02 |
| schestowitz | keep chasing them | Oct 03 09:02 |
| schestowitz | they must be going nuts over you | Oct 03 09:03 |
| schestowitz | having special meetings on how to deal with you | Oct 03 09:03 |
| schestowitz | you cost them many millions | Oct 03 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | https://gcoupe.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/the-lenovo-yoga-900-software/ | Oct 03 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcoupe.wordpress.com | The Lenovo Yoga 900 – Software | Geoff Coupe's Blog | Oct 03 09:04 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, According to Lenovo, if you use Windows Anytime Upgrade to get Windows 10 Pro, then they won't support it. | Oct 03 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | Users reporting that the Onekey recovery (used if you can't boot into Windows) isn't working for them. | Oct 03 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | So not only can you not install Linux or Windows from Microsoft's ISO, the recovery feature may not work and now you have a brick. | Oct 03 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I made a special installer in case that happens to me, but it wasn't easy, | Oct 03 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Newegg made a reply to it. | Oct 03 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | They admitted that you couldn't install Linux on the models I pointed out and pointed out 10 Lenovo laptops that they sell which you can install Linux on. | Oct 03 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | How arbitrary... | Oct 03 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | Oh gee, see this company has shit support for Linux and shit support in general, so here's some laptops where you can shoehorn Linux in from this company that you don't want to do business with anyway. | Oct 03 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, As for Alex St. John's comment that MS is adopting Apple's business model from 10 years ago, that does seem to be the case. | Oct 03 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | It'll always be called "Windows 10", they just foist upgrades on you whether you want them or not. | Oct 03 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | I agree that it could conceivably make the OS more stable, coherent, secure, etc. if it was from anyone but Microsoft. | Oct 03 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | In reality it just gives you a mess to deal with once or twice a month. | Oct 03 09:10 |
| schestowitz | I don't see a connection to Apple | Oct 03 09:29 |
| schestowitz | in his mind, maybe it's still just "Mac vs PC" | Oct 03 09:29 |
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| DaemonFC | Polycrastinator Alpha Member #165 - 1 day ago | Oct 03 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. Without the option to effectively opt out of these things until they're fixed, staying on Windows 7 - or moving to another platform, eventually - is starting to look like a wiser and wiser choice. Businesses can't afford the down time from failed updates, and with Windows 10 that down time | Oct 03 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | is starting to feel like an inevitability. | Oct 03 10:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | When every Beta closes another Alpha opens… | Oct 03 10:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | White Google Pixel and Pixel XL leaked by Bell | Oct 03 10:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.7 https://t.co/gSPSMV9zvf | Oct 03 11:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Phones for Rooting and Modding | Oct 03 11:16 |
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| schestowitz | [10:47] <DaemonFC> Microsoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | But remember | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | they say they're not "cloud first" | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Windows can wait... | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | The Clown comes first | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | /s/not/now/ | Oct 03 11:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How startups can use open source software to compete | Oct 03 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | against the big guys https://t.co/X9qKJGXrbE | Oct 03 11:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software For | Oct 03 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software For Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 03 13:17 | |
| cubexyz | ok, windows being bad is nothing new | Oct 03 13:28 |
| cubexyz | I first thought windows 2.0 was bad in 1987 & 1988 | Oct 03 13:29 |
| cubexyz | the importance of FOSS didn't cross my mind at the time | Oct 03 13:29 |
| cubexyz | I just thought windows 2.0 was slow | Oct 03 13:29 |
| cubexyz | probably the idea that all programs should be FOSS didn't really hit me until my first BIOS contructions around 2010 | Oct 03 13:31 |
| cubexyz | and of course msdos was pretty clumsy in many ways... | Oct 03 13:38 |
| cubexyz | so can imagine the low opinion the Unix folks had of the 16-bit windows 2.0 | Oct 03 13:38 |
| MinceR | yet another desperate trick to force users to use bìng >> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TQ3hI3Z | Oct 03 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why bother with proper documentation when there's goo.. Bing* - Imgur | Oct 03 13:40 | |
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| cubexyz | you could live with a closed source BIOS in those days... not now | Oct 03 13:42 |
| cubexyz | once you start thinking about firmware the old Sun Ultra series doesn't look too bad | Oct 03 13:44 |
| cubexyz | I mean you actually can "svn co svn://openbios.org/openboot/" | Oct 03 13:45 |
| cubexyz | and you got all the source | Oct 03 13:45 |
| cubexyz | ok, it's in forth, but still... | Oct 03 13:48 |
| cubexyz | if you want the least control over your computer then windows 10 is perfect... closed source everything, and even a BIOS that is sometimes hostile to other OSes | Oct 03 13:53 |
| cubexyz | that's actually much worse than the situation in 1987 | Oct 03 13:54 |
| cubexyz | of course because of chromebooks the situation isn't absolutely worse... only in some ways | Oct 03 13:57 |
| sag3 | the future looks bright :) | Oct 03 14:00 |
| MinceR | the flashes of nuclear devices | Oct 03 14:01 |
| sag3 | meh, I'll be on my Vault-Tec vault with patented techonology specifically designed to keep me and my family safe | Oct 03 14:05 |
| sag3 | nothing can go wrong | Oct 03 14:05 |
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| cubexyz | you might want to ask John Titor about that :) | Oct 03 14:08 |
| MinceR | food will run out eventually | Oct 03 14:08 |
| sag3 | but cubexyz | Oct 03 14:11 |
| sag3 | *cue suspenseful music* | Oct 03 14:11 |
| sag3 | i AM John Titor | Oct 03 14:11 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aRd0O0I.png | Oct 03 14:13 |
| cubexyz | Y2K <--- "people will freeze to death" | Oct 03 14:14 |
| cubexyz | one of his more bogus predictions | Oct 03 14:14 |
| sag3 | the IBM one was interesting though | Oct 03 14:15 |
| sag3 | "Titor claimed that he was sent back to obtain an IBM 5100 because it could translate several types of computer code. According to IBM engineer Bob Dubke, Titor's statements regarding the IBM 5100's little-known ability to emulate and debug mainframe systems were correct." | Oct 03 14:15 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-install-error.png | Oct 03 14:19 |
| cubexyz | oops, what happened there :) | Oct 03 14:19 |
| cubexyz | something happened, but what? | Oct 03 14:20 |
| cubexyz | http://i.imgur.com/1EJvBg2.gif | Oct 03 14:21 |
| cubexyz | oh another claim... "wordwide nuclear war will kill 3 billion in 2015" | Oct 03 14:29 |
| cubexyz | "2008 olympics will be cancelled" | Oct 03 14:30 |
| cubexyz | and the IBM 5100 only had 64K ram | Oct 03 14:35 |
| cubexyz | it could run S/360 APL | Oct 03 14:36 |
| cubexyz | you can think of the IBM 5100 as a S/360 mainframe that could only run APL | Oct 03 14:36 |
| cubexyz | a big S/360 could address 8 megs of ram | Oct 03 14:38 |
| cubexyz | I did some research on a APL timeline: | Oct 03 14:39 |
| cubexyz | http://apl.maxhost.org/apl-timeline.txt | Oct 03 14:39 |
| cubexyz | so APL for the 5100 was derived from the S/360 version | Oct 03 14:40 |
| cubexyz | so the whole story is bogus | Oct 03 14:41 |
| cubexyz | I run OS/360-MVT sometimes... it's not even that interesting | Oct 03 14:44 |
| cubexyz | only interesting to techno-historians | Oct 03 14:45 |
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| dblaber | MinceR: don't like the sun :)? | Oct 03 16:24 |
| dblaber | i do think its incredibly stupid that people sit in the sun for hours just for trying to get tan | Oct 03 16:25 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 03 16:28 |
| MinceR | they unnecessarily make their skin degraded and increase the risk of cancer | Oct 03 16:28 |
| dblaber | however, i am not going to hide myself from the sun when I am doing something outdoors | Oct 03 16:28 |
| dblaber | and will use lotion if its going to be extended | Oct 03 16:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, i don't hide myself either, except for purposes of thermal regulation | Oct 03 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782917347589763072 | Oct 03 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Artificial Intelligence, The Search For The Perfect Slave | Oct 03 16:40 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/f480n1W.jpg | Oct 03 16:41 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: interesting about cancer | Oct 03 17:00 |
| schestowitz | how accurate is that though? | Oct 03 17:00 |
| MinceR | according to wikipedia, pretty close | Oct 03 17:04 |
| MinceR | there are mechanisms that can repair the DNA without killing the cell, but DNA damage always comes with the risk of cancer | Oct 03 17:05 |
| MinceR | and some of the time it does lead to apoptosis to avoid cancer | Oct 03 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782968423072555008 | Oct 03 17:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 'Earthlock: Festival of Magic' 3D RPG now has a Linux | Oct 03 17:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alpha available https://t.co/GN7Fu2YtuX | Oct 03 17:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782884777842053125 | Oct 03 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: Google/Alphabet Inc. is the next Microsoft. Google Play Store most probably includes spyware. https://t.co/1Z0q1dhoJE | Oct 03 17:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Remember #microsoft was behind this, remember #android is #linux based, ask yourself if "Microsoft loves Linux" https://t.co/ydQBzeXZg0 | Oct 03 17:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782895022463070208 | Oct 03 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz It's a good cop/bad cop model, the way I see it at least. There are government money behind Google just as behind Microsoft. | Oct 03 17:19 | |
| schestowitz | Government money isn't the worst among the criteria at stake | Oct 03 17:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782895630838620160 | Oct 03 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz While Google does huge service to free software they were together in PRISM. And there are Android apps for "rooting" a device. | Oct 03 17:20 | |
| schestowitz | PRISM started with Microsoft, then Skype after Microsoft took over | Oct 03 17:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782896413705433088 https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782897685120552960 https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782897685120552960 | Oct 03 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz First Androids were literary Java, but wecouldn't run Java apps, only special Android apps. Which is quite Microsoftish thing. | Oct 03 17:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz And Google is the reason proprietary Flash Player is not dead, but installed on billions of new devices today. | Oct 03 17:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782898278601986048 | Oct 03 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz Good cop is still a cop, but it can be really good for us if we keep a healthy distance. That's what I mean. | Oct 03 17:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/782969334964649985 | Oct 03 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz #CronyCapitalism the tax codes written by the elites for the elites & passed by career politicians-dump incumbents for change | Oct 03 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/joeytwiddle/status/782967795843600386 | Oct 03 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeytwiddle: Aim for: learn, play, create, teach Avoid: imagine, argue, agree, implement (the latter delivers junk) https://t.co/r6ZI7wTlDm | Oct 03 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Make it Open Source Not eventually. Not when it's working. Not if you get management approval." - @hintjens https://t.co/lkXmOUo4PB | Oct 03 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782971583531024384 https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782971789228015616 | Oct 03 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz very odd | Oct 03 17:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz the She-Devil would drink blood if she knew that would get votes | Oct 03 17:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782972143797698560 | Oct 03 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz @sankofadotorg it's all about getting money and promotion | Oct 03 17:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AliasHere/status/782973880046456834 | Oct 03 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AliasHere: .@schestowitz :-)) | Oct 03 17:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ctheius/status/782980073557073920 | Oct 03 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ctheius: @schestowitz @DrJillStein how? | Oct 03 17:28 | |
| schestowitz | Less blowback, as the CIA calls it (predicting retaliatory attacks) | Oct 03 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Less blowback, as the CIA calls it (predicting retaliatory attacks) | Oct 03 17:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782980620381147138 | Oct 03 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz @DrJillStein serious? It's about all the trillions of dollars that disappear and nobody knows where it went | Oct 03 17:29 | |
| schestowitz | She goes by the official figures, no black budget. I pointed this out to her last night. | Oct 03 17:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ctheius/status/782981240185954307 | Oct 03 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ctheius: @schestowitz @DrJillStein A weaker military makes you weaker, non-intervention is ok, crippling our means of staying isolationist is not. | Oct 03 17:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Become a Vampire hunter in 'Slayer Shock' now out in full | Oct 03 18:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Linux support https://t.co/Yjvj8SXo9l | Oct 03 18:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994734780252160 | Oct 03 18:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arduino on Arduino battle ends in reconciliation, merger | Oct 03 18:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino on Arduino battle ends in reconciliation, merger | Tux Machines | Oct 03 18:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994735866613761 | Oct 03 18:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/QoHP1yUKg0 | Oct 03 18:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Most Secure Android Phone | Tux Machines | Oct 03 18:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994736961298432 | Oct 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dutch transparency advocates asking for open source, to | Oct 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | get open data https://t.co/KBvSiZF8ow | Oct 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dutch transparency advocates asking for open source, to get open data | Tux Machines | Oct 03 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/782997342718980096 | Oct 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/QoHP1yUKg0 | Oct 03 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: cheers | Oct 03 19:33 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783010279026229248 | Oct 03 19:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/gRi6Y5BtYK | Oct 03 19:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 03 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Most Secure Android Phone | Android Central | Oct 03 19:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013218948120576 | Oct 03 19:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | list text here | Oct 03 19:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013493989670917 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/mCh0e8WAZ2 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.networkworld.com) | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, security | Oct 03 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013692929634305 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ethernet Switches https://t.co/N8qdEI2UQE (insidehpc.com) | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over Ethernet Switches - insideHPC | Oct 03 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013745479921664 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/2wOG6KXS3t | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, security | Tux Machines | Oct 03 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013746524364800 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ethernet Switches https://t.co/DtRGjiwlhe | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over Ethernet Switches | Tux Machines | Oct 03 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013747665178625 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 03 19:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Oct 03 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Oct 03 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783015147338141696 | Oct 03 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap Apps | Oct 03 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap Apps - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 03 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783021093254787076 | Oct 03 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More Drivers | Oct 03 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/R4P8O19Sho (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 03 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More Drivers - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/783026218782355460 | Oct 03 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz voting for you Jill will help Donald Trump win. Thank you :-) | Oct 03 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | Ordering fish at a restaurant gives you beef. Or something... | Oct 03 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783022583738433536 | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9 features overview/preview | Oct 03 20:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9's CPUFreq To Make Greater Use Of Scheduler Info, IOWait Boosting - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EFI Test Driver Added To The Mainline Linux 4.9 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9 On x86_64 To Support Vmapped Stacks - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mellanox Platform Support Coming In Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783025766460260352 | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "In the months ahead the Linux kernel should start | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | receiving the work out of the "make-wifi-fast" | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | initiative" https://t.co/Kv8Srz2Qoo (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 03 20:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Should Soon Start Receiving "Make WiFi Fast" Improvements - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783027063515189248 | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch era | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EQuaMZpdMj (www.techphylum.com) | Oct 03 20:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch era | TECHPHYLUM.COM | Oct 03 20:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783027809132376064 | Oct 03 20:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mesos and #Kubernetes on a hybrid (IBM Power and x86) | Oct 03 20:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | architecture scenario https://t.co/6tfHC4c03M- | Oct 03 20:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8 | Oct 03 21:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8 | Tux Machines | Oct 03 21:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031482143035393 | Oct 03 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Systemd bug in the News https://t.co/y0pUz3zArK | Oct 03 21:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd bug in the News | Tux Machines | Oct 03 21:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031483258638336 | Oct 03 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9 Preview https://t.co/KJWaOGnrtI | Oct 03 21:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9 Preview | Tux Machines | Oct 03 21:07 | |
| MinceR | https://linux.ucla.edu/~eqy/molasses.html | Oct 03 21:16 |
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| MinceR | https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1901544/google-promotes-controversial-claim-its-not-possible-for-ethnic-minorities-to-be-racist-against-white-people/ | Oct 03 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Google promotes claim it's NOT possible for ethnic minorities to be racist against white people | Oct 03 21:28 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14563457_347374705611461_369513723668309429_n.png?oh=c5ae032410e0b8a6029129847b41d826&oe=5871EC28 | Oct 03 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I start to wonder more and more what exactly is a "white" person, and people of colour. | Oct 03 21:44 |
| MinceR | it's not discrete at all | Oct 03 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently it doesn't mean "Caucasian" because a lot of Caucasian people are being called coloured. | Oct 03 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | Like Mexicans | Oct 03 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | And it doesn't mean "Usonian" because I think I would have been called a white person while being far outside of US in a barely developed country. | Oct 03 21:47 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 03 21:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/vinnyoh89/status/783045439524212737 | Oct 03 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vinnyoh89: @coryxoxo @schestowitz never mind the fact that right to work states pay workers less and give less benefits | Oct 03 21:47 | |
| XRevan86 | it also doesn't mean being part of the developed world because I'm "white" and Japanese aren't | Oct 03 21:48 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europid | Oct 03 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasian race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 03 21:48 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: true | Oct 03 21:48 |
| schestowitz | the whole premise of the article is dumb | Oct 03 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But Mexicans are "coloured" | Oct 03 21:48 |
| MinceR | well, this crybully claim about "reverse" racism is stupid | Oct 03 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | while being Europioid | Oct 03 21:49 |
| MinceR | they just want to be bigots and have people accept it | Oct 03 21:49 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/YimX0m6 | Oct 03 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Word needs too revise its grammar - Imgur | Oct 03 22:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783035676740751361 | Oct 03 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 | Oct 03 22:03 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 https://t.co/c85fV9HGbM' | Oct 03 22:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049724345536512 | Oct 03 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/ZwM0B8Hj2i | Oct 03 22:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 | Techrights | Oct 03 22:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049725465419776 | Oct 03 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/rVoNyHRZ0J | Oct 03 22:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/bAxYyGgBay | Oct 03 22:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:04 | |
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| Stites | In the USA the Federal Appeals Court for the Federal Circuit has issued a ruling by a 3 judge panel throwing out a software patent. Two judges issued an opinion saying the software patent was invalid for the usual mundane reasons. The third judge, Judge Meyer, agreed with the other 2 judges and then added 2 more reasons. Judge Meyer's second reason is that no software is patentable ever. This is HUGE! Here is the text of Judge | Oct 03 22:20 |
| Stites | http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.html | Oct 03 22:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | First Amendment Finally Reaches Patent Law | Patently-O | Oct 03 22:20 | |
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| stites_ | You need to read this: http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.html | Oct 03 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | seen it | Oct 03 22:34 |
| schestowitz | covered this morning | Oct 03 22:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049727801602048 | Oct 03 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/EjWtd8GxsP | Oct 03 22:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049728850145280 | Oct 03 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/bQMwD6RQH0 | Oct 03 22:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063614571835393 | Oct 03 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | HackMIT meets Fedora https://t.co/A9CBX0EkTb | Oct 03 22:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063905878827008 | Oct 03 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A tiny PC as a router https://t.co/oDgLTQsNZU | Oct 03 23:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.liw.fi | A tiny PC as a router | Oct 03 23:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783066548143583233 | Oct 03 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8 | Oct 03 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0DZINaEYrp (padovan.org) | Oct 03 23:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-padovan.org | Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8 – Gustavo Padovan | Oct 03 23:26 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/hpKWIi9.jpg | Oct 03 23:28 |
| schestowitz | bambi?! | Oct 03 23:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: methinks you have a kickass addiction | Oct 03 23:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 23:41 |
| MinceR | no, just found a dump on imgur | Oct 03 23:41 |
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| MinceR | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/stupid-design-patent-month-rectangles-screen | Oct 04 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Stupid Design Patent of the Month: Rectangles on a Screen | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 04 00:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | I decided to sign up with a per-mile car insurance plan. Little creepy, but the pricing is good. | Oct 04 00:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 04 02:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118646746808320 | Oct 04 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 | Oct 04 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SoCs https://t.co/rjeoQ7LYga (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 SoCs | Tux Machines | Oct 04 02:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118647820640256 | Oct 04 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source for Business: Pros and Cons | Oct 04 02:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source for Business: Pros and Cons | Tux Machines | Oct 04 02:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118648948826112 | Oct 04 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend | Oct 04 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Updated Components https://t.co/HCbaeIz67o | Oct 04 02:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend Brings Updated Components | Tux Machines | Oct 04 02:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What do you think about that? | Oct 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | Plug in a device that records how much you drive and just pay for what you use. | Oct 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | There's a small base rate (like $17.62 a month for me) and then a per-mile fee depending on what insurance options you get (2.2 cents per mile for me). | Oct 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | If I'm correct, I should average $20 a month this way where I pay $60 now. | Oct 04 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | What I'm paying now is essentially a huge subsidy for other people who drive a lot. | Oct 04 03:06 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Oct 04 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : Lenovo | Oct 04 03:33 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Someone commented. | Oct 04 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | [–]195one 1 point 18 minutes ago | Oct 04 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | GLTY. I must surely hold the record. Lenovo has been performing warranty work on my device since APRIL 11, 2016. They still have it. | Oct 04 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | A Lenovo Forums moderator replied a few days ago and then deleted the message a few minutes later. | Oct 04 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Oct 04 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard a few others tell me this. So the moral of the story is "Don't buy the extended warranty because the one that came with the machine is already useless. Their repair center is actually a black hole.". | Oct 04 03:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118650119036928 | Oct 04 03:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Git 2.10 Version Control System Gets Its First Point | Oct 04 03:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release, Adds 94 Changes https://t.co/6yFIdC3OGs | Oct 04 03:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.10 Version Control System Gets Its First Point Release, Adds 94 Changes | Tux Machines | Oct 04 03:38 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything. | Oct 04 03:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118651138281472 | Oct 04 03:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What’s new in PostgreSQL 9.5 https://t.co/nEX279EXoS | Oct 04 03:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 03:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s new in PostgreSQL 9.5 | Tux Machines | Oct 04 03:39 | |
| DaemonFC | They even paid to ship it both ways. | Oct 04 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | I shuld hve bought the Spectre. | Oct 04 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | *should | Oct 04 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard people tell me they use Linux on their HP Spectre and are very pleased with it. | Oct 04 03:40 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Git 2.10 Version Control System Gets Its First...' | Oct 04 03:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend Brings Updated...' | Oct 04 03:46 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55odat/new_lenovo_windows_10_laptops_launch_in_india/ | Oct 04 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | New Lenovo Windows 10 laptops launch in India : Lenovo | Oct 04 03:46 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 04 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | Since it has a HDD it will probably even run Linux. Probably. | Oct 04 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | I bought into the idea of a fast SSD because I do't like waiting on the computer to pull up data from the HDD, and while the SSD is crazy fast and I don't plan to ever use a HDD again, the way Lenovo configured this SSD is insane, and therefore, Linux won't run. | Oct 04 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently even Newegg Business tried to get out in front of my revelation by saying "Sure those Lenovo laptops won't run Linux, but here's 10 that do.". Like that makes everything better or something. It's like walking through a minefield. | Oct 04 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the Linux compatible Lenovo models either have a hard drive or are on AMD's platform. If they are Intel-based, they seem to be last year's models that we already knew run Linux. | Oct 04 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, a smorgasbord of cheap crap and yesterday's news. | Oct 04 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Don't trust Lenovo further than you can throw a Buick. | Oct 04 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | As for another problem with Lenovo, I've now talked to several people who sent theirs in for a warranty repair....to a black hole apparently....one told me that they sent it in back in June and Lenovo keeps making excuses for why it hasn't been sent back yet. I thought that was bad until someone else told me theirs has been with Lenovo since April. | Oct 04 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | In my experience, HP paid to ship my old Presario laptop both ways and fixed the touchpad, for free, three years after the warranty expired, and they even updated the BIOS while it was in there. Turnaround time was all of a week. | Oct 04 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | Now we know how Lenovo can have impossibly low prices. Aside from all thirty pieces of crapware that comes wth their non-Signature PCs, they get kickbacks for locking all of their Signature PCs so you can't run Linux on them per a Microsoft agreement, and then they cut customer service to the bone so you get people that can't troubleshoot simple problems and a repair center that is backed up for 8 months and/or might have actually lose your | Oct 04 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | laptop. | Oct 04 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/ | Oct 04 04:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : Lenovo | Oct 04 04:00 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 04 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | Failure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold. | Oct 04 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | "Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo." | Oct 04 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | [...] | Oct 04 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | Sorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason: | Oct 04 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2 | Oct 04 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | Error:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program. | Oct 04 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55a516/is_your_lenovo_yoga_900_reliable/ | Oct 04 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is your Lenovo Yoga 900 reliable? : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/pu5mo ] | Oct 04 04:07 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 04 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | If you never want to install Linux or be able to reinstall Windows from MS if your pre-installed Windows is screwed up and Onekey recovery doesn't work... | Oct 04 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/ | Oct 04 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Oct 04 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | If you want to send your laptop in for repair and have them still make excuses when you don't have it 8 months later... | Oct 04 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Warning: Microsoft Signature PC program now requires that you can't run Linux. Lenovo's recent Ultrabooks among affected systems. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/prx4h ] | Oct 04 04:07 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Oct 04 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ] | Oct 04 04:07 | |
| DaemonFC | Then by all means, buy Lenovo. | Oct 04 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : Lenovo | Oct 04 04:07 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://en.yibada.com/articles/164482/20161003/lenovo-motorola-google-smartphone-mobile.htm | Oct 04 04:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.yibada.com | Lenovo shutting down; employee layoffs a precursor? : Tech : Yibada | Oct 04 04:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Speculation that Lenovo risks going under. | Oct 04 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | Basically saying everything I did. | Oct 04 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | No new products. Shutting down and cannibalizing entire divisions. What happened to Motorola is essentially a write-off. | Oct 04 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like there is much to go on that leads towards Lenovo failing. | Oct 04 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | Like other failing companies, they were desperate for cash to the point of letting Microsoft ensure their ruin in exchange for a short-term payoff. | Oct 04 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | Linspire limped along for a little while from the money in the Microsoft agreement. Michael Robertson probably figured that he would shut the company down one day and keep it all for himself. Kevin Carmony, as CEO, dipped into it to pay their employees a severance package. Robertson sued trying to get it back and lost. | Oct 04 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | Carmony seems like a decent guy in my opinion. | Oct 04 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | There was no saving Linspire as a company after Ubuntu got to the point where it was at. | Oct 04 04:37 |
| dblaber | is ubuntu still where it was in the past :)? | Oct 04 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/ | Oct 04 05:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Mozilla Foundation Security Advisories — Mozilla | Oct 04 05:38 | |
| DaemonFC | 18 security vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 49. Of those, 12 were applicable to Firefox 45 ESR and closed in 45.4. | Oct 04 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | NoScript *might* offer protection, but the author is peddling malware on his own website now. | Oct 04 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | That makes 103 security vulnerabilities closed in Firefox so far this year. | Oct 04 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, more, since some of them are actually multiple bugs put in the same advisory. | Oct 04 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | Such as "Miscellaneous memory safety hazards". | Oct 04 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | Miscellaneous memory safety hazards (rv:48.0 / rv:45.3) actually contains 9 bugs in one advisory. | Oct 04 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | Those actually hide 59 more bugs inside them | Oct 04 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | For a total of 162. | Oct 04 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | That puts them on track for 216 security vulnerabilities closed this year. | Oct 04 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | That's not as bad as Flash. Flash had 315 closed last year. | Oct 04 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | Basically, adding Flash very likely gives you more vulnerabilities than existed in the entire web browser before. | Oct 04 05:49 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 04 07:20 |
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| DaemonFC | https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/03/walmartlabs-open-sources-the-application-platform-that-powers-walmart-com/ | Oct 04 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WalmartLabs open sources the application platform that powers Walmart.com | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/pu73o ] | Oct 04 08:09 | |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Lenovo forums is down. | Oct 04 08:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783136058036793344 | Oct 04 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The October 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Oct 04 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FkUqtzxIbn (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 10:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The October 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Oct 04 10:52 | |
| schestowitz | [03:39] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything. | Oct 04 11:03 |
| schestowitz | My main laptop, an HP, is reliable | Oct 04 11:03 |
| schestowitz | never had to repair anything yet (since 2009) | Oct 04 11:04 |
| schestowitz | the chromebook is another matter, returned it to the shop | Oct 04 11:04 |
| schestowitz | (HP 14) | Oct 04 11:04 |
| schestowitz | HP Chromebook 14 or whatever they called it | Oct 04 11:04 |
| schestowitz | seems like others reported the same issued with it | Oct 04 11:04 |
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| schestowitz | [05:03] <dblaber> is ubuntu still where it was in the past :)? | Oct 04 11:12 |
| schestowitz | More server focus | Oct 04 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I guess the desktop has been used to promote the brand, among other things | Oct 04 11:13 |
| schestowitz | like packaging formats | Oct 04 11:13 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu is now used a lot where Debian used to be used | Oct 04 11:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pceebee23/status/783243263968849920 | Oct 04 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pceebee23: @AngusMacNeilSNP @schestowitz inevitable...now... little england lost in a myth of Empire | Oct 04 11:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/783245277851451393 | Oct 04 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz yes it is, and one clearly cannot patent speech. | Oct 04 11:17 | |
| schestowitz | There was a patent lawsuit over speech rec recently. High profile... | Oct 04 11:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783249738791587840 | Oct 04 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @hintjens I want my villa! | Oct 04 11:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783250641267351553 | Oct 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NixOS 16.09 "Flounder" Operating System Adds PXE Netboot | Oct 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support, systemd 231 https://t.co/bkB8QRgNHY | Oct 04 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | NixOS 16.09 "Flounder" Operating System Adds PXE Netboot Support, systemd 231 | Oct 04 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783250897711296512 | Oct 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.8 Officially Released for Those | Oct 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Who Want 100% Freedom https://t.co/fJPWMoMTi7 | Oct 04 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.8 Officially Released for Those Who Want 100% Freedom | Oct 04 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251220123222016 | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Midnight Commander 4.8.18 Adds Syntax Highlighting | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for CUDA and GLSL, Fixes https://t.co/0V90JzgTuP | Oct 04 11:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNU Midnight Commander 4.8.18 Adds Syntax Highlighting for CUDA and GLSL, Fixes | Oct 04 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251373601193988 | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dueling Arduinos reunite with new Arduino Foundation | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2pFi4TAGS3 (hackerboards.com) | Oct 04 11:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Dueling Arduinos reunite with new Arduino Foundation | Oct 04 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251529985908736 | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $39 network switching Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cortex-A53 https://t.co/jdgXvA6WYj (hackerboards.com) | Oct 04 11:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | $39 network switching Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on Cortex-A53 | Oct 04 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251927815557120 | Oct 04 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 3.12.64 LTS Updates the Networking Stack and | Oct 04 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fixes EXT4 Bugs https://t.co/0Pdf3tFcfc | Oct 04 11:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.64 LTS Updates the Networking Stack and Fixes EXT4 Bugs | Oct 04 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783252181415755776 | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SystemRescueCd 4.8.3 Released with | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5vV90nvkJZ (www.x.org) Server 1.18.4, Linux | Oct 04 11:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SystemRescueCd 4.8.3 Released with X.Org Server 1.18.4, Linux Kernel 4.4.23 LTS | Oct 04 11:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 26 open source projects from Linux's 25 years | Oct 04 11:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-26 open source projects from Linux's 25 years | CIO | Oct 04 11:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 | Oct 04 11:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 SoCs | Oct 04 11:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend | Oct 04 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Updated Components https://t.co/78gNOedDTg | Oct 04 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend Brings Updated Components | Oct 04 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783253433751134208 | Oct 04 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Collabora Developers Have Contributed over 100 Patches to | Oct 04 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 https://t.co/BPbwjWBr06 | Oct 04 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Collabora Developers Have Contributed over 100 Patches to Linux Kernel 4.8 | Oct 04 11:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Keeping Linux containers safe and secure | Oct 04 11:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Interview with Andy Cathrow of Anchore | Opensource.com | Oct 04 11:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Looks like Homefront: The Revolution might be gearing up | Oct 04 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for a Linux release now https://t.co/NW7kQw2hH0 | Oct 04 11:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Several donations boost reliability of Debian's core | Oct 04 11:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME From Scratch Project https://t.co/RvEyksG2cv | Oct 04 12:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-slackblogs.blogspot.com | SlackBlogs: GNOME From Scratch Project | Oct 04 12:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Weather Forecast https://t.co/D3QWn54poY | Oct 04 12:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Weather Forecast | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Oct 04 12:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right Firewall | Oct 04 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distribution https://t.co/F2oohCNI6b (www.datamation.com) | Oct 04 12:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building a Hardware Firewall: Pick the Best Distribution - Datamation | Oct 04 12:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783266800326811648 | Oct 04 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Scheduler Changes Published For The Linux 4.9 Kernel | Oct 04 12:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scheduler Changes Published For The Linux 4.9 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 04 12:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | BFS Updated For Linux 4.8, To Be Succeeded By New MuQSS | Oct 04 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Kolivas...to premiere a new scheduler." | Oct 04 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BFS Updated For Linux 4.8, To Be Succeeded By New MuQSS Scheduler - Phoronix | Oct 04 13:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OverlayFS SELinux Support For Linux 4.9 Kernel | Oct 04 13:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OverlayFS SELinux Support For Linux 4.9 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 04 13:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Everything you need to know about Android 7.1 Nougat and | Oct 04 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Pixel Launcher https://t.co/Q3wU1QqoYx | Oct 04 13:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why Android Fans Are Feeling Anxious Ahead of Google's | Oct 04 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Next Hardware Event https://t.co/XB8MFExneC | Oct 04 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | Why Android Fans Are Feeling Anxious Ahead of Google's Next Hardware Event | Motherboard | Oct 04 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282857036963840 | Oct 04 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Mi Box is officially launching today for $69 | Oct 04 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mkXWklz5fF (www.androidpolice.com) | Oct 04 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | The Mi Box is officially launching today for $69 | Oct 04 13:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! | Oct 04 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2MKCdxn82C (balintreczey.hu) | Oct 04 13:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-balintreczey.hu | Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! | Obsessed with reality | Oct 04 13:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Create your own Tizen themes with the Tizen Theme Editor | Oct 04 13:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Create your own Tizen themes with the Tizen Theme Editor - Tizen Experts | Oct 04 13:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783285094463201281 | Oct 04 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sysprof Plans for #gnome 3.24 https://t.co/KbiJDjUBIw | Oct 04 13:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right Firewall | Oct 04 13:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right Firewall Distribution | Tux Machines | Oct 04 13:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OSI Welcomes Powering Potential: Open Source Advocates | Oct 04 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Extending Education in Tanzania https://t.co/mssWewnztS | Oct 04 13:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSI Welcomes Powering Potential: Open Source Advocates Extending Education in Tanzania | Tux Machines | Oct 04 13:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/bjVKj6CeCr | Oct 04 13:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/4nAkI22kOt | Oct 04 13:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel News https://t.co/KqyhyBQcNp | Oct 04 14:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 14:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @packetsled favourited 'Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right Firewall Distribution https://t.co/8T5ivhKO0W' | Oct 04 14:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7923062 | Oct 04 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Social [control] media does not punish people for racism, terror, 'trolling' etc. as it claims. Now even ciriticising religion or police is verboten? | Oct 04 14:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783292183768080386 | Oct 04 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones, | Oct 04 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more! | Oct 04 15:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones, Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more! | TechCrunch | Oct 04 15:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | AppData content ratings for games shipped in Fedora | Oct 04 15:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why health implants should have open source code | Oct 04 15:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why health implants should have open source code | Tux Machines | Oct 04 15:01 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKyErEjxiE | Oct 04 15:19 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @LegionAth favourited 'Why health implants should have open source code...' | Oct 04 15:31 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 4chan? | Oct 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz | seems like they'e going bust soon | Oct 04 15:35 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 04 15:35 |
| MinceR | afaik they jumped the shark long ago anyway | Oct 04 15:36 |
| schestowitz | it's funny, but offensive to most women | Oct 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz | so I won't post it | Oct 04 15:38 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 04 15:41 |
| MinceR | the link won't last more than a few hours anyway | Oct 04 15:41 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/tc5-1.jpg | Oct 04 15:50 |
| MinceR | (audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475545742389.webm | Oct 04 15:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/783311496298233856 | Oct 04 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: because it's well known all terrorists are unable to find £17.50 down the back of the sofa.... https://t.co/MxCQuSsrJP | Oct 04 15:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Let travellers pay £17.50 to beat queues at airport #security https://t.co/tUpXLHrKfq more proof that it really is security theater | Oct 04 15:51 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice swing | Oct 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz | bad outcome | Oct 04 15:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 04 15:54 |
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| MinceR | >"We are going to be a fully-independent, sovereign country, a country that is no longer part of a political union with supranational institutions that can override national parliaments and courts," she said to applause. | Oct 04 15:58 |
| MinceR | oh, they're going to leave the Commonwealth and kick out the royal family? :> | Oct 04 15:58 |
| schestowitz | HAhahahahahaha | Oct 04 15:59 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 04 15:59 |
| XRevan861 | Another thing I keep wondering about is "national". | Oct 04 16:04 |
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| MinceR | "nation" is an idea invented to get people to gang up on other people, usually to kill them for the oppressors' profit | Oct 04 16:05 |
| XRevan86 | I guess the thing here is classical "us" and "them": "them" Germans/French can't dictate "their" will on "us", Britains, lords, the queen, the peasants alike. | Oct 04 16:08 |
| XRevan86 | * Britons | Oct 04 16:08 |
| MinceR | the classic forgetting that "them" also includes UK | Oct 04 16:08 |
| MinceR | and of course trying to have their cake and eat it too | Oct 04 16:09 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the EU people think about that | Oct 04 16:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "I just want to run a container!" https://t.co/iMTtd6HXpQ | Oct 04 16:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | "I just want to run a container!" - Julia Evans | Oct 04 16:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 'Quadrilateral Cowboy' released for Linux, a | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | single-player adventure in a cyberpunk world | Oct 04 16:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323157805535232 | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with Comprehensive | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features https://t.co/6MtQHRuHfm (dot.kde.org) | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yYQMB8wc2V (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | While common people today have much better chances of communicating with common people from other countries than with lords of their own. | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZRjcy023Ms (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with Comprehensive Features | KDE.news | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Officially Released - Phoronix | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Celebrates Its 20th Anniversary with the Release of KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| XRevan86 | and, obviously, share much more interests with them than with the "elite". | Oct 04 16:12 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TsiqumP | Oct 04 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-People like to pretend there's nothing wrong with Eclipse. I don't. - Imgur | Oct 04 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JotsandTitters/status/783322617528750084 | Oct 04 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JotsandTitters: @schestowitz @wikileaks $$$ the key objective | Oct 04 16:20 | |
| schestowitz | [16:09] <MinceR> i wonder what the EU people think about that | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | back to the 1970s | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | I didn't vote for brexit | Oct 04 16:21 |
| razielle_tzu | me neither | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LaurelCatherine/status/783322765713637378 | Oct 04 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LaurelCatherine: Well us good guys won that skirmish but the rodents never cease their chewing thru at wall https://t.co/xxu947oWhg | Oct 04 16:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Federal Court Says Ballot Selfie Ban Is Like Burning Down the House to Roast a Pig https://t.co/YqVRnSbwoa good analogy? | Oct 04 16:22 | |
| MinceR | i mean, the people who call the shots in the EU, the people these brexiters will negotiate with to try and keep all the advantages of the deal while getting rid of all the disadvantages | Oct 04 16:23 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/IUgHMDM.jpg | Oct 04 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323563046514689 | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pkcyMn9nUP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323565420531714 | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux Routers | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a227K7iCao (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux Routers | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783324385998430210 | Oct 04 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet for Gentoo as | Oct 04 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | contributor to the youbroketheinternet-overlay." | Oct 04 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lMvAggQOjH (gnunet.org) | Oct 04 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnunet.org | GNUnet for Gentoo | GNUnet | Oct 04 16:44 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice | Oct 04 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783331749027807232 | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI Support | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6v3yWusNSc (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI Support - Phoronix | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783332235575517184 | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - Phoronix | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783334538462257152 | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late For | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9 https://t.co/48iU37EdIT (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late For Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/iAZ7oFF.jpg | Oct 04 17:13 |
| MinceR | http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/7_questions_mike_pence_should_asked_vice_president_debate_20161004 | Oct 04 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here Are 7 Questions Mike Pence Should Be Asked at the Vice Presidential Debate - Truthdig | Oct 04 17:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late...' | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342749571350530 | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Tools Released https://t.co/N42hE1qDgY | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Tools Released | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342750980636672 | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/FOHY9CyoqJ | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342751953727488 | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BX83lq8bPq (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342752985526273 | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To University | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lawyers https://t.co/9lYvFIgMMV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To University Lawyers | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
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| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/20sign-1-1.jpg | Oct 04 17:39 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/8sign-3-1.jpg | Oct 04 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342754168385536 | Oct 04 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQA | Oct 04 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tFlJk97AIl (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQA | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now...' | Oct 04 17:51 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/mickaelistria/status/783349449586343936 | Oct 04 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mickaelistria: @schestowitz Yup, there's something wrong here... Can you please report it to https://t.co/HVNrbTJQGQ ? | Oct 04 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe they think I took this shot | Oct 04 17:56 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 04 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783348773422587912 | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EyzSHDj5Eg (blog.lxde.org) | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lxde.org | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | LXDE Blog | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783349420922433536 | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iXpIozoAsu (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/christianlawre2/status/783350068216602625 | Oct 04 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@christianlawre2: @schestowitz @wikileaks you worship hillary clinton. You don't know the truth, anymore. you think her lies are the truth and truth are lies. | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 04 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Cute. | Oct 04 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I worship HRC :-) | Oct 04 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know... | Oct 04 18:00 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/xsIXZwR.jpg | Oct 04 18:21 |
| schestowitz | nice | Oct 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Linus spoke about the pressure thing | Oct 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz | after he flew inside a fighter het | Oct 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz | *jet | Oct 04 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783284882042564609 | Oct 04 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: My friend @hintjens pushed our meeting at the hospital to 5PM instead of noon. Shit, I wanted to say goodbye! | Oct 04 18:32 | |
| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1h1cyg/whats_the_most_intellectual_joke_you_know/ | Oct 04 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's the most intellectual joke you know? : AskReddit | Oct 04 18:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pyloris favourited '"In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet...' | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783352897673293825 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT https://t.co/wofTyAW9q6 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT • The Register | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362905378959364 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/LiYEqC58Uz | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362906435883009 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDE | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M0ifUoX8g3 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDE | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362907581001728 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | System Administration https://t.co/CxzLmf3Cye | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System Administration | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362908575059969 | Oct 04 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXDE Performance https://t.co/p73KPlil8e | Oct 04 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXDE Performance | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:48 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9HsBaOh.jpg | Oct 04 19:14 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/3sf36Eo.png | Oct 04 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | base A | Oct 04 19:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RayNeutrino/status/783368979280789506 | Oct 04 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RayNeutrino: Yes #JillStein is the only candidate supported by the efforts of the common people https://t.co/8se3usvAwp | Oct 04 19:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @DrJillStein @ajamubaraka That's because Greens are not funded by corporations and wealthy donors who expect silence in return | Oct 04 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/783372052371681280 | Oct 04 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: In computing systems as in life systems, seems #diversity is #resilience; whereas #hegemony is #death: #sysvinit… https://t.co/7CDSdC5nfO | Oct 04 19:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: In computing systems as in life systems, seems #diversity is #resilience; whereas #hegemony is #death: #sysvinit… https://t.co/7CDSdC5nfO | Oct 04 19:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362909757812736 | Oct 04 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Evolving Your Open Source Project Infrastructure: There's | Oct 04 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | No Such Thing As Done https://t.co/naq1NbzzyO | Oct 04 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 19:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Evolving Your Open Source Project Infrastructure: There's No Such Thing As Done | Tux Machines | Oct 04 19:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783378167666995200 | Oct 04 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | Oct 04 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eUBzhPctUL (error) | Oct 04 20:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIRER | Oct 04 20:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783379531256176640 | Oct 04 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked by | Oct 04 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retailer https://t.co/yfAg09JsmL | Oct 04 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Oct 04 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 20:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked by retailer - Android Authority | Oct 04 20:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783381570321207296 | Oct 04 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @schestowitz @wikileaks Considering,,, https://t.co/4cHeSHZ3En | Oct 04 20:05 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/gg924kf.jpg | Oct 04 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ender74dev http://twitter.com/ender74dev/status/783380513314729985 | Oct 04 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software in a Box Daily wurde soeben publiziert! | Oct 04 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7LyUUxxLJS (paper.li) Vielen Dank an | Oct 04 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @aronchick @krmayank @tuxmachines #kubernetes #cloud | Oct 04 20:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Software in a Box Daily | Oct 04 20:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/JJonthewing/status/783380850046099457 | Oct 04 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked by | Oct 04 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @JJonthewing retailer https://t.co/yfAg09JsmL | Oct 04 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Oct 04 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ArnoldDuendis/status/783387053820039168 | Oct 04 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation. | Oct 04 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | hmmm. | Oct 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz | too extreme | Oct 04 20:31 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/one-wish-3 | Oct 04 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - One Wish | Oct 04 20:43 | |
| MinceR | 04 213058 -TechrightsBot-tr:#techrights- @ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation. | Oct 04 20:43 |
| MinceR | EXTERMINATE ALL HUMANS | Oct 04 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | SEEK, LOCATE, DESTROY | Oct 04 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783385383631515648 | Oct 04 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3 Android phones that offer long battery life | Oct 04 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/25B3rOhZgK (www.infoworld.com) | Oct 04 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Android phones that offer long battery life | InfoWorld | Oct 04 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/783392513428168705 | Oct 04 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 | Oct 04 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - Phoronix | Oct 04 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783398426641915904 | Oct 04 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and | Oct 04 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5 | Oct 04 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Oct 04 21:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401711486369793 | Oct 04 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Linux Foundation https://t.co/m8A7JAqtUg | Oct 04 21:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | Techrights | Oct 04 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Oct 04 21:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401712857944064 | Oct 04 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distros News https://t.co/aJRdIVXYmv | Oct 04 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 21:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 21:22 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: sounds like Captain America: Winter Soldier | Oct 04 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That's from Doctor Who :). | Oct 04 21:27 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/legLOTd.jpg | Oct 04 21:28 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/nihEOtw | Oct 04 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I do really need drivers for my undefined Something MSI! - GIF on Imgur | Oct 04 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401714284015616 | Oct 04 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupter | Oct 04 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupter | Tux Machines | Oct 04 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401715315814400 | Oct 04 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What CIOs need to know about open source forking | Oct 04 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What CIOs need to know about open source forking | Tux Machines | Oct 04 21:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIRER | Oct 04 22:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783421228845441024 | Oct 04 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 | Oct 04 22:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/783395668421378048 | Oct 04 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz c'mon-one senior judge with no business experience nor extensive technology background-baying at the moon | Oct 04 23:36 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: ah, OK, I'm not into it, never was | Oct 04 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's pretty good. | Oct 04 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | Both classical and current. | Oct 04 23:37 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/H9vFsZG.gifv | Oct 04 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783417084852117505 | Oct 04 23:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @TN_Conservative @schestowitz @wikileaks Good Luck ,,, https://t.co/LM6sbj8O3Q | Oct 04 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | LOL, MinceR https://twitter.com/RoyCohnsGhost/status/783260634725113856 | Oct 04 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RoyCohnsGhost: @JimBertido @wikileaks Bill doesn't have to hide out in an embassy to avoid his accusers. https://t.co/5RCmb1EMtM | Oct 04 23:42 | |
| schestowitz | funny. | Oct 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | nails it | Oct 04 23:42 |
| MinceR | good for him | Oct 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | but the sculptures I saw had a small one | Oct 04 23:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783426190581391360 | Oct 04 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and | Oct 04 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5 | Oct 04 23:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | Techrights | Oct 04 23:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438717092564992 | Oct 04 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phone Under $900 https://t.co/ITHBaxtYs3 | Oct 04 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 04 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone Under $900 | Android Central | Oct 04 23:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phone With Removable Battery | Oct 04 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CbSj96EQqX (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 04 23:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone With Removable Battery | Android Central | Oct 04 23:52 | |
| cubexyz | ok, I had some time so I was able to do some updates | Oct 05 00:14 |
| cubexyz | a historical look at filesystems | Oct 05 00:15 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Oct 05 00:15 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/comparison-different-os-df.txt | Oct 05 00:15 |
| cubexyz | got some ideas for updating the df command | Oct 05 00:15 |
| cubexyz | the documentation for very old Unix is a bit deficient | Oct 05 00:19 |
| cubexyz | it assumes you know a lot | Oct 05 00:20 |
| razielle_tzu | back then wouldn't that be true? | Oct 05 00:20 |
| cubexyz | definitely yes | Oct 05 00:20 |
| cubexyz | still, I feel I should try to improve it | Oct 05 00:20 |
| razielle_tzu | i'm not saying you shouldn't | Oct 05 00:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783439704968536064 | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwlu | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 00:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Oct 05 00:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released - Tizen Experts | Oct 05 00:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441771925766148 | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FrGvay6NVm (www.everydaylinuxuser.com) | Oct 05 00:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 « Everyday Linux User | Oct 05 00:23 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/mV5NrEC.jpg | Oct 05 00:27 |
| cubexyz | I have to load-balance the Unix v5 files | Oct 05 00:28 |
| cubexyz | got some ideas for future updates... | Oct 05 00:29 |
| cubexyz | port some sort of file compression utility for v5 | Oct 05 00:30 |
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| cubexyz | the old DEC RK05 hard drive system was limited to 2.5 megs per drive | Oct 05 00:35 |
| cubexyz | so one has to be a bit economical with disk usage | Oct 05 00:36 |
| razielle_tzu | just a bit | Oct 05 00:36 |
| cubexyz | my original amiga hard drive was also pretty small | Oct 05 00:42 |
| cubexyz | 49 megs | Oct 05 00:42 |
| cubexyz | seagate ST-157N | Oct 05 00:43 |
| cubexyz | still, going from a single 880K floppy to 49 megs was a big difference | Oct 05 00:44 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Oct 05 00:44 |
| razielle_tzu | i can't remember the size of my first amiga hdd | Oct 05 00:44 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783455238015496193 | Oct 05 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: Just discovered my honest and personal post about quitting has been grossly twisted by @schestowitz. Not happy. https://t.co/g1i2CkfXgp | Oct 05 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | haha | Oct 05 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Alice/Section 101 Still Spelling Doom for Proponents of Software Patents, Including Some Patent Law Firms | Techrights | Oct 05 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783453965673304065 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454095386435585 | Oct 05 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz No, but I have now, and you have grossly misrepresented my position. | Oct 05 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz I am *not* going back to software development. That comment you quote was sarcastic and snide (and I responded to it). | Oct 05 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454450241241088 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454624598470656 | Oct 05 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz My decision is personal and does *not* reflect any 'layoffs' or 'shutdowns'. Your inference is harmful to my employer. | Oct 05 00:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And I vehemently resent your suggestion that I (or anyone else) is, or has been, in the business of lying to clients. | Oct 05 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454746690461696 | Oct 05 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz If your reading comprehension skills are so poor, maybe you should not be in the business of writing. | Oct 05 00:56 | |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 05 00:56 |
| schestowitz | you did promote software patents a lot. This, to me, is dishonest. | Oct 05 00:56 |
| schestowitz | -me | Oct 05 00:57 |
| schestowitz | he's not happy about the critical slant | Oct 05 00:57 |
| razielle_tzu | evidently | Oct 05 00:58 |
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| cubexyz | I'm going to augment the ps command as well | Oct 05 01:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Become an undead assassion in 'Aragami', now available | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with day-1 Linux support and some thoughts from me | Oct 05 01:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783455397139087361 | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24 Release Schedule Now https://t.co/EQozuek6h4 | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) direct: https://t.co/5ONeb4hMX1 | Oct 05 01:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783456442082791424 | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The Desktop | Oct 05 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The Desktop - Phoronix | Oct 05 01:02 | |
| schestowitz | razielle_tzu: it's ok if they dislike me | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | they're supposed to | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | otherwise I fail to counter them | Oct 05 01:03 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | but I'm fine with that, I heard from some people they won't say those things for fear of insulting or alienating them | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | but someone needs to do it, and what I said was actually true | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | they're nervous over death of swpats at the moment | Oct 05 01:03 |
| razielle_tzu | so they should be | Oct 05 01:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457175863644160 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457450372374529 | Oct 05 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz Holding views that differ from yours is 'dishonest'? No, it isn't. And you have no idea how & on what basis I advise clients. | Oct 05 01:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz While I may not agree with you, I've always viewed you as fair and principled. Apparently I was wrong. Show some respect. | Oct 05 01:05 | |
| schestowitz | No, he never viewed me like that | Oct 05 01:05 |
| schestowitz | he knew where I stoof | Oct 05 01:05 |
| schestowitz | *stood | Oct 05 01:05 |
| cubexyz | is this Mr. Solve the web page? :) | Oct 05 01:06 |
| cubexyz | oh well, it doesn't matter | Oct 05 01:09 |
| cubexyz | the tone seemed the same | Oct 05 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783457154820956164 | Oct 05 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel | Oct 05 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/PJ5mZzZ6RX | Oct 05 01:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 - Exclusive | Oct 05 01:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux...' | Oct 05 01:10 | |
| cubexyz | almost as obtuse as Ted Stevens | Oct 05 01:12 |
| cubexyz | it's not a big truck you know! | Oct 05 01:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783458633027760128 | Oct 05 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And, don't worry, I will continue to 'promote' software patents, even without a financial interest. | Oct 05 01:14 | |
| schestowitz | haha | Oct 05 01:14 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/c6OmW3s | Oct 05 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Maps now has functionality that allows you to mimic the swerving of a drunk driver. - Imgur | Oct 05 01:17 | |
| MinceR | an honorable villain, willing to fight to destroy the world even if there's nothing in it for him! | Oct 05 01:18 |
| razielle_tzu | xD | Oct 05 01:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783459222902087680 | Oct 05 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel | Oct 05 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/c5wWe5mWxZ | Oct 05 01:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 | Tux Machines | Oct 05 01:49 | |
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| MinceR | > anon@anon:~> grep couric /usr/share/units.dat | Oct 05 02:10 |
| MinceR | > couric 2.5 pounds feces # official unit of measurement of fecal samples, per: http://www.efsmi.org/?ref=efsmi.eu | Oct 05 02:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.efsmi.org | European Fecal Standards and Measurements Institute (EFSMI) | Oct 05 02:10 | |
| MinceR | > kouric couric | Oct 05 02:10 |
| MinceR | > trump 79.366 couric # per: http://www.howtallis.org/donald-trump-height-weight-shoe-size/ | Oct 05 02:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump height and weight | HowTallis.Org | Oct 05 02:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/0e3Kl7N8j5 | Oct 05 04:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows Subsystem for Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 04:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on March 22, 2017 https://t.co/whcdvGnQ6t | Oct 05 04:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Oct 05 04:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves the | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updater, Patches Over 40 Bugs https://t.co/X92mNoZMNI | Oct 05 04:23 |
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| DaemonFC | http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/ | Oct 05 05:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo won't make Windows 10 phones due to Microsoft's commitment issues | Oct 05 05:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Latest Windows 10 Anniversary Update Build Sends Some Users To Reboot Loop Hell | HotHardware | Oct 05 06:23 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3123153/windows/more-than-half-of-pcs-dont-have-windows-10-au-yet-and-no-ones-quite-sure-why.html | Oct 05 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More than half of PCs don't have Windows 10 AU yet, and no one's quite sure why | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pudm3 ] | Oct 05 06:24 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.komando.com/happening-now/350765/busted-the-reason-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-you-think/all | Oct 05 06:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Busted! The reason Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | One Page | Komando... | Oct 05 06:29 | |
| DaemonFC | "The big problem Apple will have going forward is that Mac security entirely depends on a single defense called GateKeeper. GateKeeper only lets programs install if they have an approval certificate from Apple. | Oct 05 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | That means GateKeeper will stop you downloading and installing a random virus off the Internet. However, its weakness is that once a program has approval from Apple, it trusts that it's always going to be good. | Oct 05 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | In the ransomware attack from last week, hackers broke into the website of the Transmission BitTorrent client and replace the legitimate download with a version that included malicious code. GateKeeper just let the infected program install with no fuss." | Oct 05 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | The article is mostly an ad for Kaspersky Antivirus though. | Oct 05 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/03/18/busted-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-think.html | Oct 05 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Busted! Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/pudno ] | Oct 05 06:31 | |
| DaemonFC | Fox News basically copied it and replaced the ad for Kaspersky with advice to get an antivirus program. | Oct 05 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business. | Oct 05 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | They had about 200 systems. 150 ran Linux and 50 ran Windows. The BSA found out that some copies of Windows weren't licensed, so they tried to force a settlement on the company that involved wiping out the 150 Linux systems and installing a licensed copy of Windows on all 200. | Oct 05 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | He said that negotiations went on for months and he left the company and never did find out what happened. | Oct 05 06:38 |
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| schestowitz | [06:36] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business. | Oct 05 09:35 |
| schestowitz | I want to see it, but he's gone now | Oct 05 09:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783586943959494656 | Oct 05 09:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @patentology unfortunately @schestowitz sees a conspiracy everywhere he looks. So even when he is right he is wrong. | Oct 05 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | haha, says the patent industry | Oct 05 09:38 |
| schestowitz | as if Bristows at al inside IP Kat is not a fact. Among other things... | Oct 05 09:39 |
| schestowitz | you are actually among the most balanced of the bunch (Nicola too). Mark S-F was always very overt pro #swpats | Oct 05 09:40 |
| schestowitz | (just told him | Oct 05 09:40 |
| schestowitz | ) | Oct 05 09:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783588013880279040 | Oct 05 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @schestowitz yes it is shocking isn't it. IP law blog run by some people working in IP law firms. Must be suspicious @patentology | Oct 05 09:43 | |
| schestowitz | Pushing their financial agenda, yes. Like blog on energy/environment run by Exxon staff | Oct 05 09:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783588843580690432 | Oct 05 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @schestowitz I don't know what you base this on. Probably that I am a chemist. So computers not really my field. @patentology | Oct 05 09:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783589724887785472 | Oct 05 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz @EIP_Elements Well, now I've quit you're going to have to find some other BS explanation for why I don't just agree with you. | Oct 05 10:01 | |
| schestowitz | #swpats become like a 'religion' when one lives inside this echo chamber.Maybe you'll get exposed to other views | Oct 05 10:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sweet5hark/status/783597133333164032 | Oct 05 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sweet5hark: @schestowitz https://t.co/dh4pMktltb <- more ex-Sun OOo folks at LibreOffice now than ever had been on that other fork ... | Oct 05 10:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783583056951144448 | Oct 05 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/6NfKLJZoi6 | Oct 05 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783592259761471488 | Oct 05 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vista 10 Woes https://t.co/neld7brS3Y | Oct 05 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vista 10 Woes | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783599257299345408 | Oct 05 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This Man Is Explaining Google’s Hardware Bet to Android | Oct 05 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Partners https://t.co/4HEaZVJsKt (www.bloomberg.com) | Oct 05 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Man Is Explaining Google’s Hardware Bet to Android Partners - Bloomberg | Oct 05 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601284112941057 | Oct 05 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi’s $69 4K Android TV box arrives in the US | Oct 05 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Fm6FVXxLw8 (www.engadget.com) | Oct 05 10:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Xiaomi's $69 4K Android TV box arrives in the US | Oct 05 10:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601358196895744 | Oct 05 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | docker-selinux changed to container-selinux | Oct 05 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/k8i7fmkkcF (danwalsh.livejournal.com) | Oct 05 10:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danwalsh.livejournal.com | docker-selinux changed to container-selinux - Dan Walsh's Blog | Oct 05 10:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601928035045376 | Oct 05 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Pixel makes a bid for Android history | Oct 05 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TQNLkcGkWN (www.cnet.com) | Oct 05 10:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Pixel makes a bid for Android history - CNET | Oct 05 10:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Releases WildFly Application Server Version 10.1 | Oct 05 11:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Red Hat Releases WildFly Application Server Version 10.1 | Oct 05 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783604912961781760 | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.8 https://t.co/79jOSL8JGA | Oct 05 11:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.8 « codeblog | Oct 05 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783607406580404225 | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8 | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a2AsIqguRh (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 05 11:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8 • The Register | Oct 05 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783608027857510400 | Oct 05 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source MANO Issues First Release | Oct 05 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FdrPfeXMER (www.lightreading.com) | Oct 05 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lightreading.com | Open Source MANO Issues First Release | Light Reading | Oct 05 11:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783609171577016320 | Oct 05 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs Now | Oct 05 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JnROzjBH9i (time.com) | Oct 05 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com | Google Pixel: Why Android Fans Should Love the iPhone Rival | Oct 05 11:11 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | A look back at Google's Android flagships: the Nexus family | Oct 05 11:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDE | Oct 05 11:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Oct 05 11:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Tux Machines | Oct 05 11:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610516098785280 | Oct 05 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Study: open source groups take security serious | Oct 05 11:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Study: open source groups take security serious | Tux Machines | Oct 05 11:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610517680041984 | Oct 05 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/59Iz9TU6CI | Oct 05 11:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 05 11:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/0zMMwq0C8P | Oct 05 11:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/peUF9kpNdX | Oct 05 11:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 05 11:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7929025 | Oct 05 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs Now http://time.com/4518365/google-pixel-xl-apple-iphone-android/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/04/a-look-back-at-googles-android-flagships-the-nexus-family/ | Oct 05 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> time.com | Google Pixel: Why Android Fans Should Love the iPhone Rival | Oct 05 11:30 | |
| schestowitz | "I fail to see any enthusiasm about that. Apple jail vs Google jaill? I can’t see the difference of the merits in that." | Oct 05 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.engadget.com | A look back at Google's Android flagships: the Nexus family [ http://ur1.ca/pufgz ] | Oct 05 11:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both ISOs, Based | Oct 05 11:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub and 25 sensor | Oct 05 11:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/xcrLzGuu6h | Oct 05 11:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros | Oct 05 11:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros on March 22, 2017 - Exclusive | Oct 05 11:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File Manager | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Many New Features https://t.co/eDCLJqeVF4 | Oct 05 11:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Oct 05 11:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783619309998399488 | Oct 05 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mad Max to release on 20th of October for Linux & | Oct 05 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SteamOS, being ported by Feral Interactive | Oct 05 11:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "The Mad Max game is being released for Linux later this | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | month on 20 October." https://t.co/m74rinjGrO | Oct 05 11:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mad Max Coming To Linux, NVIDIA Graphics Supported - Phoronix | Oct 05 11:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783620238847971329 | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of Heroes | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10th Anniversary Bundle https://t.co/2WJ1n7hAvc | Oct 05 11:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of Heroes 10th Anniversary Bundle | Oct 05 11:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/opendna/status/783628484363087872 | Oct 05 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@opendna: Related: publicly traded companies which list "goodwill" as an asset on the balance sheet. https://t.co/yMOkVZCP0N | Oct 05 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How many companies out there have imaginary/intangible perceived value that's basically just a bubble like #swpats ? What happens next? | Oct 05 12:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | VirtualBox https://t.co/HFZibpK1Ec (news.opensuse.org) | Oct 05 12:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE News | Oct 05 12:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783625573096689664 | Oct 05 12:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortage | Oct 05 12:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reviewing patches makes you a better coder | Opensource.com | Oct 05 12:45 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Goofy_fr/status/783641553826934784 | Oct 05 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Goofy_fr: Vous voulez travailler dans l'informatique, trouver un boulot bien payé et intéressant, choisissez l'open source ! https://t.co/63htfplZ3f | Oct 05 13:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It's good to be an open source pro in Europe https://t.co/ZzB1TwqJuT #freesw | Oct 05 13:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GeorgeAnders/status/783648378580152321 | Oct 05 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GeorgeAnders: @schestowitz Cars used to play that function. But who drives anymore!? | Oct 05 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783651297807433728 | Oct 05 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Just closed mine, never used it anyway... :) | Oct 05 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GreensforJill/status/783651762767007744 | Oct 05 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreensforJill: @dodrty @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka Yes. Military experience is invaluable to any President. 🌻 | Oct 05 13:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dodrty/status/783652765377581061 | Oct 05 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dodrty: @GreensforJill @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka well, it damn sure wouldn't do DJT any freaking good! | Oct 05 14:00 | |
| schestowitz | some people closing their accounts at yahoo today | Oct 05 14:00 |
| schestowitz | and talking about those stupid VP debates.. | Oct 05 14:01 |
| MinceR | (shortlived, audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475619161631.webm | Oct 05 14:07 |
| razielle_tzu | of course they're talking about the debates | Oct 05 14:25 |
| MinceR | http://www.theonion.com/graphic/jurisprudence-fetishist-gets-off-on-technicality-9063 | Oct 05 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'www.theonion.com' ( status 0 @ http://www.theonion.com/graphic/jurisprudence-fetishist-gets-off-on-technicality-9063 ) | Oct 05 14:31 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: excellent! | Oct 05 14:39 |
| MinceR | < anon> tories have unveiled new uk flag - http://i.imgur.com/HqCYSZi.jpg | Oct 05 15:20 |
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| cubexyz | ok, you can criticize the newer versions of firefox, but chrome is also a cpu hog | Oct 05 15:35 |
| MinceR | good thing i have Pale Moon and linkx | Oct 05 15:36 |
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| cubexyz | yeah, my openbsd system uses far less cpu | Oct 05 15:43 |
| cubexyz | but it's not a fair comparison really | Oct 05 15:43 |
| cubexyz | the openbsd box has 256 megs of ram, so I don't bother running chrome or firefox on it | Oct 05 15:43 |
| cubexyz | and another deficiency is one doesn't have fine control over what firefox/chrome does | Oct 05 15:44 |
| cubexyz | if I kill a chrome/ff process the whole thing exits | Oct 05 15:44 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/3FEPvbx.jpg | Oct 05 15:52 |
| cubexyz | oooo burn: | Oct 05 16:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/illegal-immigrant.jpg | Oct 05 16:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 05 16:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux: The free operating system alternative that changed | Oct 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | computing https://t.co/Es6uM3PDHX (home.bt.com) | Oct 05 16:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-home.bt.com | What is Linux? - BT | Oct 05 16:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming To | Oct 05 16:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | It's good to be an open source pro in Europe | Oct 05 16:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming To GNU/Linux | Techrights | Oct 05 16:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It's good to be an open source pro in Europe | Tux Machines | Oct 05 16:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691250171977728 | Oct 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/DEF5p1H7ex | Oct 05 16:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Oct 05 16:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691251182739456 | Oct 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/ifNAnY0VKo | Oct 05 16:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 05 16:32 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/S9MW7qm.jpg | Oct 05 17:19 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d1yDCWicf0 | Oct 05 17:41 |
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| cubexyz | that guy is missing the point | Oct 05 17:56 |
| cubexyz | Spurlock was getting the "Super Size" meals when it was offered | Oct 05 17:57 |
| cubexyz | McDonalds was pushing the super size stuff | Oct 05 17:57 |
| cubexyz | and Spurlock did exercise.. 5,000 distance steps per day | Oct 05 17:58 |
| cubexyz | the "average" amount | Oct 05 17:58 |
| cubexyz | if you were to eat a steady diet of that stuff you'd be unhealthy | Oct 05 17:59 |
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| cubexyz | Cisna is flat out wrong | Oct 05 18:02 |
| cubexyz | sure, if you burn up more calories that you injest you will lose weight | Oct 05 18:03 |
| cubexyz | a lot of the weight gain since the 1980s was due to high-fructose corn syrup | Oct 05 18:04 |
| cubexyz | Cisna was merely McDonalds sock puppet | Oct 05 18:05 |
| cubexyz | so yes, if you have a whole team of people scrunitizing the entire McDonalds menu and making the healthiest possible choices, drinking water and not pop and exercising a ton, yes you can lose weight eating at McDonalds | Oct 05 18:07 |
| cubexyz | but what will the average person do eating at McDonalds? | Oct 05 18:07 |
| cubexyz | let's look at a quarter pounder with cheese as an example | Oct 05 18:09 |
| cubexyz | total fat 20 grams | Oct 05 18:09 |
| cubexyz | trans fat 1.2 grams | Oct 05 18:09 |
| cubexyz | sodium 730 mg | Oct 05 18:09 |
| cubexyz | sugar 9 grams | Oct 05 18:09 |
| cubexyz | calories 417 | Oct 05 18:09 |
| cubexyz | so we can safely disgard the faux-documentary by John Cisna | Oct 05 18:11 |
| cubexyz | learn to cook :) | Oct 05 18:13 |
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| MinceR | so if you don't eat at McD, stuff yourself and don't move, you won't get fat? | Oct 05 19:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691252176859138 | Oct 05 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Pros Confident in Europe Job Market | Oct 05 19:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Pros Confident in Europe Job Market | Tux Machines | Oct 05 19:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortage | Oct 05 19:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortage | Tux Machines | Oct 05 19:28 | |
| cubexyz | Cisna is a nutbar, that was my point | Oct 05 19:38 |
| cubexyz | he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's diet | Oct 05 19:38 |
| cubexyz | sure, you can cut calories and lose weight even if those calories don't have a much nutrition | Oct 05 19:40 |
| cubexyz | but it's not healthy | Oct 05 19:40 |
| cubexyz | if you take in more calories than you use, you will gain weight | Oct 05 19:41 |
| cubexyz | emphasing McDonalds as a way to lose weight is stupid | Oct 05 19:41 |
| schestowitz | [19:38] <cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's diet | Oct 05 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Never heard of jim | Oct 05 19:42 |
| schestowitz | sounds like a tool | Oct 05 19:42 |
| schestowitz | burgers in a bun are no balanced diety | Oct 05 19:42 |
| schestowitz | (diet | Oct 05 19:42 |
| cubexyz | right, it's obviously a bad idea | Oct 05 19:42 |
| schestowitz | they're not the worst | Oct 05 19:42 |
| cubexyz | probably pringles is the worst, or some other chips | Oct 05 19:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PopoZao69/status/783729784509444097 | Oct 05 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PopoZao69: @DocMellyMel @GreenPartyUS @CalStateLA Please please please ask @DrJillStein about her thoughts on Harambe! #RIPHarambe | Oct 05 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | she already posted those | Oct 05 19:44 |
| cubexyz | Cisna is from Iowa, so you may not have heard much about him | Oct 05 19:45 |
| cubexyz | he choices at McDonalds actually weren't bad... he was eating the healthiest possible choices on the mcdonalds menu | Oct 05 19:47 |
| cubexyz | there's another guy who did something similar | Oct 05 19:50 |
| cubexyz | Mark Haub lost 27 pounds in 10 weeks eating twinkies and other junk | Oct 05 19:50 |
| cubexyz | so he restricted his calories to 1,800 per day and took multi-vitamins and ate vegetables | Oct 05 19:51 |
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| cubexyz | here's a good counter-argument: | Oct 05 19:56 |
| cubexyz | http://listovative.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-not-eat-food-at-mcdonalds/ | Oct 05 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Reasons why you should not eat Food at McDonalds - Listovative [ http://ur1.ca/puhq7 ] | Oct 05 19:56 | |
| schestowitz | ta for the link | Oct 05 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783735551572709377 | Oct 05 20:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Apricity: Slip Into Something More Comfortable | Oct 05 20:24 |
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| cubexyz | MIcrosoft vice president Paul Maritz describing microsoft's strategy vs netscape, java and the internet: | Oct 05 20:28 |
| cubexyz | "embrace, extend and extinguish" | Oct 05 20:28 |
| cubexyz | didn't work though | Oct 05 20:29 |
| cubexyz | there's some balkanizing of course | Oct 05 20:30 |
| cubexyz | I believe the current term is 'splinternet' | Oct 05 20:30 |
| cubexyz | google android uses google (naturally) | Oct 05 20:31 |
| cubexyz | blackberry defaulted to bing | Oct 05 20:32 |
| cubexyz | iphone doesn't use flash | Oct 05 20:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Trail and Cherry Trail computers) https://t.co/nR2ibXh5Bl | Oct 05 20:33 |
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| cubexyz | the doomsday scenario I feared... that microsoft would take over everything, didn't happen | Oct 05 20:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | [Early Access] Sailfish OS Fiskarsinjoki | Oct 05 20:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Trying Out The Experimental Unity 8 Session On Ubuntu | Oct 05 20:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Happy 25th once again to Linux, ‘the little OS that | Oct 05 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | definitely could’ https://t.co/JRm8vIBzsC | Oct 05 20:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772654591283200 | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/eNoLJACqr1 | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 21:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772655635668992 | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mad Max for GNU/Linux https://t.co/l7HNEY43Us | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mad Max for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
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| MinceR | 05 203859 < cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's diet | Oct 05 22:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 05 22:20 |
| MinceR | that's pretty nutty | Oct 05 22:20 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/XTqYah2.gifv | Oct 05 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Oct 05 22:23 | |
| MinceR | https://magyarchan.net/boards/b/image/1475/70/14757021789774.png | Oct 05 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | Pieter Hintjens's Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On http://techrights.org/2016/10/05/pieter-hintjens-swpats/ | Oct 05 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pieter Hintjens’s Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/puihw ] | Oct 05 22:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/783782530487123968 | Oct 05 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz Thank you, my online friend. | Oct 05 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/taotetek/status/783783812807401472 | Oct 05 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@taotetek: @schestowitz thank you so much for writing this. | Oct 05 22:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783785669604831232 | Oct 05 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Same here :D | Oct 05 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | rianne is waiting for new articles | Oct 05 22:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783786499082973184 | Oct 05 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz They are coming as we speak :) | Oct 05 22:53 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fnkbnr/status/783789576808697856 | Oct 05 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fnkbnr: .@schestowitz They might not be "lying" but are forced to so. Question: Would that be legal. Which law would make this possible? | Oct 05 23:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772656868859904 | Oct 05 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel Headlines https://t.co/B1PFthUhKL | Oct 05 23:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Headlines | Tux Machines | Oct 05 23:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Linux and Graphics https://t.co/6seYjwGxCm' | Oct 05 23:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 05 23:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity | Oct 06 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 Session After All https://t.co/g4R1E48Itf | Oct 06 00:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity 8 Session After All | Tux Machines | Oct 06 00:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783793179388555264 | Oct 06 00:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma | Oct 06 00:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 https://t.co/keWzcyvvL7 | Oct 06 00:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 | Tux Machines | Oct 06 00:17 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings...' | Oct 06 01:02 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7931392 | Oct 06 02:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wow, what a headline. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2473084/torvalds-finds-a-bug-in-stable-linux-kernel-48-and-goes-apeshit #torvalds #linux | Oct 06 02:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theinquirer.net | Torvalds finds a bug in stable Linux Kernel 4.8 and goes apeshit | TheINQUIRER | Oct 06 02:14 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 02:14 |
| schestowitz | <cynicism> Remember: Don’t fix Bugs, instead of fixing Bugs lets bash Linus </cynicism> | Oct 06 02:14 |
| schestowitz | let me guess: NSA/CIA HUMINT Action against Linus, so that he has less time to fix bugs? [1] | Oct 06 02:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 02:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/camo/fea92a7bd0f8f260485835abbbbe49a681bb3bc0/687474703a2f2f6d6172636c616e646f6c742e63682f696d672f6c696e75782e706e67 | Oct 06 02:15 |
| schestowitz | "[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILAlhwUgIU#t=40m14s (40:14)" | Oct 06 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jacob Applebaum: To Protect And Infect, Part 2 [30c3] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pujfg ] | Oct 06 02:15 | |
| MinceR | looks more like just enjoying the show | Oct 06 02:15 |
| cubexyz | "Linus not going apeshit after finding bug" would be more surprising :) | Oct 06 02:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 02:15 |
| schestowitz | or let’s exlain it a bit more childish | Oct 06 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Bender = NSA/CIA | Oct 06 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Fry = Linux | Oct 06 02:15 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sj4Simru28 | Oct 06 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Futurama chess. Bender cheats. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pujfj ] | Oct 06 02:15 | |
| MinceR | does Linus really care what people say about what he said? | Oct 06 02:15 |
| schestowitz | ' | Oct 06 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Nicely put, if not sarcastic | Oct 06 02:15 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 06 02:16 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linus-gives-win7-bsod-thumbs-up.jpg | Oct 06 02:17 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-up-for-bsod.jpg | Oct 06 02:26 |
| cubexyz | an old school CRT BSOD :) | Oct 06 02:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783819801135308800 | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/dELC5GNFWl | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/Dn7CNaRpZe | Oct 06 03:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849855907094528 | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/0RcRGSxI7Z | Oct 06 03:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849856917917696 | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | expansion https://t.co/40VVEmMGn7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 03:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style expansion | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849857932898304 | Oct 06 03:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & | Oct 06 03:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | K12 Capture File Support https://t.co/etU4tgv7lm | Oct 06 03:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & K12 Capture File Support | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849859010867200 | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google releases open source 'Cartographer' | Oct 06 03:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 03:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google releases open source 'Cartographer' | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849860038483968 | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/THXHoi9z97 | Oct 06 03:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration Support Coming Soon | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | So we voted today. | Oct 06 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I did split my ballot. | Oct 06 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for some Greens when it was that and Democrats. :P | Oct 06 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | But that was only for the water reclamation board. | Oct 06 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | They're doing that Deep Tunnel project that's been going on since the 70s. | Oct 06 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it's wasted plenty of money by now. | Oct 06 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_us_57f53b9be4b002a7312022ef | Oct 06 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Mike Pence's Defining Moment As Governor? Enabling An HIV Outbreak | Huffington Post | Oct 06 04:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm happy. I got to vote to eliminate a useless government office and save taxpayers $800,000 a year. | Oct 06 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | Turns out there's a Cook County recorder and the Clerk's office and they both do similar things. | Oct 06 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | So I voted to eliminate the recorder's office. | Oct 06 05:33 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Oct 06 08:39 |
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| schestowitz | SebthreeBQM10HD: morning... | Oct 06 09:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | schestowitz morning | Oct 06 09:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity | Oct 06 09:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 Session After All https://t.co/rYyTWbRLDe | Oct 06 09:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity 8 Session After All | Oct 06 09:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 https://t.co/WLRTGSUpGU | Oct 06 09:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 | Oct 06 09:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with Other | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Distributions https://t.co/L0uYZaQtyt | Oct 06 09:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with Other GNU/Linux Distributions | Oct 06 09:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/dAVAgh7OSD | Oct 06 09:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork | Oct 06 09:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style | Oct 06 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style expansion | Oct 06 09:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid | Oct 06 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/7auTNXKDWY | Oct 06 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration Support Coming Soon - Exclusive | Oct 06 09:40 | |
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| schestowitz | Danish Financial Supervisory Authority (FSA) will be covered later this morning in Techrights... | Oct 06 10:28 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for the heads up. I'll read it and likely forward it to some | Oct 06 10:34 |
| schestowitz | > friends in Denmark. One fellow I worked with had his PhD delayed a year | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > or so while the administrators and businesses fought over the software | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > patents. He couldn't publish while that was going on and without | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > publishing the dissertation, he could not be awarded his PhD. | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz | publishable | Oct 06 11:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783950014624169984 | Oct 06 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 | Oct 06 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/eAmvdlHc16 | Oct 06 11:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) | Oct 06 11:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 | Oct 06 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/WuOhBJX3hU | Oct 06 11:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) | Tux Machines | Oct 06 11:20 | |
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| schestowitz | "Yeah, it's on the Intranet, so everyone would have seen it." | Oct 06 11:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demos | Oct 06 12:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking by | Oct 06 12:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | releasing its Pixel smartphone https://t.co/WtYQzMCFBK | Oct 06 12:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998823181975552 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora meeting summary https://t.co/DvSKS1paie | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ankursinha.in) | Oct 06 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Join Meeting 26 September 2016 - Summary - ankursinha.in/blog | Oct 06 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783999531964887040 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-Source | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software https://t.co/bF27hFe8No (www.bloomberg.com) | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-Source Software - Bloomberg | Oct 06 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784000130290708481 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Rugged Android Phone https://t.co/79Ac4Y38re | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) "Bottom line: The Galaxy S7 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Rugged Android Phone | Android Central | Oct 06 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Active" | Oct 06 13:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001188836540416 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Patches Android for 78 Vulnerabilities in October | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update https://t.co/K09PHLoMvO (www.eweek.com) | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Google Patches 78 Android Flaws in October Update | Oct 06 13:04 | |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh wasn't back in here again | Oct 06 13:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/784004160840761346 | Oct 06 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: WebKitGTK+ and WPE are cool, but I'm more curious about this: https://t.co/W7Ckhz6NkB https://t.co/OJ4tUbylPB | Oct 06 13:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://servo.org/ ) | Oct 06 13:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Web Engines Hackfest 2016! https://t.co/94BMQzxVnu #WebKitGTK #gnome #gtk #freesw #www | Oct 06 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001891265052672 | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10 basic linux security measures everyone should be doing | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VejA80KL23 (www.scrye.com) | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784003344402636800 | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Frogr 1.2 released https://t.co/zApdkzIQ3T (mariospr.org) | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5AZBwAxls2 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://mariospr.org/2016/10/05/frogr-1-2-released/ ) | Oct 06 13:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784005247756820480 | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in the | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | UK https://t.co/AHYugwV9yS (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-name lookup timed out ( status 0 @ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/frogr-flickr-uploader-for-linux-update ) | Oct 06 13:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in the UK - Tizen Experts | Oct 06 13:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007357776990208 | Oct 06 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Camera https://t.co/IsXEwGIobf | Oct 06 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 06 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Camera | Android Central | Oct 06 13:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007756860776448 | Oct 06 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big Screen | Oct 06 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5GzeJKfy6b (www.fastcompany.com) | Oct 06 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big Screen | Fast Company | Business + Innovation | Oct 06 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784009947948408836 | Oct 06 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's Guide | Oct 06 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CYyQsguM6M (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 06 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's Guide | Android Central | Oct 06 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784011037498564608 | Oct 06 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box in | Oct 06 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | your home https://t.co/WVyBB0mMAq (www.pocket-lint.com) | Oct 06 13:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box in your home - Pocket-lint | Oct 06 13:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012198582620161 | Oct 06 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: Leaked | Oct 06 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Changelog Reveals Difference https://t.co/C1TWTNXSgp | Oct 06 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.ibtimes.com) | Oct 06 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: Leaked Changelog Reveals Difference Between Pixel OS Features And Upcoming Update | Oct 06 13:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012577139556352 | Oct 06 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the Tizen | Oct 06 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Store https://t.co/kFVRVvXpWr (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 06 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the Tizen Store - Tizen Experts | Oct 06 13:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012811907235840 | Oct 06 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya Today | Oct 06 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YEBXoNphtK (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 06 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 13:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya Today - Tizen Experts | Oct 06 13:51 | |
| cubexyz | we're predicting 12 hours of rain and an immiment upgrade: | Oct 06 15:13 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kcci-news-time-for-windows-10.jpg | Oct 06 15:13 |
| cubexyz | imminent, learn to spell | Oct 06 15:14 |
| cubexyz | a lot of people just don't have control of their computers | Oct 06 15:18 |
| cubexyz | they don't know anything about the BIOS, they sometimes can't even load an alternative OS, windows 10 can just barf out messages whenever it wants | Oct 06 15:19 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows10-download.png | Oct 06 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: On a positive side, it does make a message %). | Oct 06 15:21 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpg | Oct 06 15:26 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/779nV | Oct 06 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | New AI Is Capable of Beating Humans At Doom - Slashdot | Oct 06 15:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784013102299906049 | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux With | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review https://t.co/j9WkGdCOzX | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.itechpost.com) | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 15:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itechpost.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux With Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review : Tech : iTech Post | Oct 06 15:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039396999782400 | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora, | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systemd.conf https://t.co/PEtNeH8DxX | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 15:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora, systemd.conf | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:35 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/784039278070431745 | Oct 06 15:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bigonbe: @schestowitz Forkbomb command is even smaller than that... | Oct 06 15:42 | |
| schestowitz | I was thinking of that all along ;-) | Oct 06 15:42 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I linked to your server | Oct 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | and now it's not accessible. "haha" indeed... | Oct 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | I cannot open | Oct 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | [15:26] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpg | Oct 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | oh, wait, now it's moving super-slowrly | Oct 06 15:46 |
| cubexyz | overload | Oct 06 15:46 |
| schestowitz | before that it just timed out | Oct 06 15:46 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: maybe add a caching layer? | Oct 06 15:46 |
| cubexyz | should be OK now but I'll look into it | Oct 06 15:47 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: ok, cheers | Oct 06 15:48 |
| schestowitz | thanks for logging the channels also | Oct 06 15:48 |
| cubexyz | np :) | Oct 06 15:48 |
| schestowitz | I'll need that some time later, put that on freeze while EPO is spying | Oct 06 15:48 |
| schestowitz | I think Researcher- might be a bot of theirs | Oct 06 15:48 |
| schestowitz | but not sure, just a theory | Oct 06 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039398811643909 | Oct 06 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME News https://t.co/7kgrz8D2E4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 15:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039400489426944 | Oct 06 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/wSIpQ1htQu | Oct 06 15:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039401751924736 | Oct 06 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen/ARTIK/Samsung https://t.co/vu5sPxjNq4 | Oct 06 15:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen/ARTIK/Samsung | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039403375034368 | Oct 06 15:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Russia's Nyet to Proprietary Software | Oct 06 15:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hiu8OmC2s2 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 15:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Russia's Nyet to Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784043945915473920 | Oct 06 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux is a new frontier for young developer | Oct 06 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/reR6BEizDZ (opensource.com) | Oct 06 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 16:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Linux Story: Building a custom Linux distro | Opensource.com | Oct 06 16:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Linux is a new frontier for young developer...' | Oct 06 16:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048257194491904 | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A general guide for the best practices of buying Linux | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | games https://t.co/VtCFPAEIDZ (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 16:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/a-general-guide-for-the-best-practices-of-buying-linux-games.8261 ) | Oct 06 16:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048459292835840 | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Shadow Warrior 2 may not come to Linux after all, it's | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | getting a bit confusing https://t.co/orHHfifgNl | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 16:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048895076790273 | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCN | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 1.0/1.1 GPUs https://t.co/ABRS6oBX1q (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 16:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCN 1.0/1.1 GPUs - Phoronix | Oct 06 16:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784049407138365440 | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BUTCHER from Transhuman Design releases with day-1 Linux | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support, it's brutal https://t.co/cOMGaINMZO | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 16:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784050606487048192 | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 Kernel | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Kt01MYp7S0 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 16:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 06 16:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784051178950782977 | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More changes in Linux 4.9 https://t.co/wJtMnsgwEs | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/GZgh022E44 | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sound Updates For Linux 4.9: Skylake Audio Still Being Tuned - Phoronix | Oct 06 16:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 16:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Elan Touchsceeen Driver, GPIO Decoder For "Input" On Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 06 16:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/prHQnDS | Oct 06 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So what exactly are the consequences? - Imgur | Oct 06 17:37 | |
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| cubexyz | this one might upset the kiddies: | Oct 06 17:50 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/mrs-potato-head-bsod.jpg | Oct 06 17:50 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 06 17:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 17:53 |
| cubexyz | last one for today I promise: | Oct 06 18:01 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/mr-peanut-bsod.jpg | Oct 06 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784052074707288064 | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Stellar Tactics', a space exploration RPG with classless | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | character progression will come to Linux | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FUXGa0FBYP (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 18:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/stellar-tactics-a-space-exploration-rpg-with-classless-character-progression-will-come-to-linux.8267 ) | Oct 06 18:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784052412646563840 | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Day of Infamy, the WWII FPS from New World Interactive | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | updated, looks pretty good on Linux | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YYcBnwbBrn (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 18:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/day-of-infamy-the-wwii-fps-from-new-world-interactive-updated-looks-pretty-good-on-linux.8272 ) | Oct 06 18:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784061626433597440 | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This Extension Adds Dynamic Transparency to GNOME Shell’s | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top Bar https://t.co/NyZIhwa9tZ (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Oct 06 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 18:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | This Extension Adds Dynamic Transparency to GNOME Shell's Top Bar - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 06 18:05 | |
| MinceR | there goes the 'branding'... | Oct 06 18:07 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/HROU0T9.jpg | Oct 06 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah... | Oct 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp12c3-IL-I | Oct 06 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Spherical Droste Effect, with added twist and recursion. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/puo6y ] | Oct 06 19:24 | |
| XFaCE | [13:07:49]<MinceR> there goes the 'branding'... | Oct 06 19:33 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 06 19:33 |
| schestowitz | but whose? | Oct 06 19:33 |
| XFaCE | I've been keeping track of the systemd stupidity via an excellent threat at Gentoo Forums | Oct 06 19:33 |
| XFaCE | it's depressing | Oct 06 19:33 |
| MinceR | gnome's | Oct 06 19:34 |
| XFaCE | *thread | Oct 06 19:34 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: same difference at this point | Oct 06 19:34 |
| XFaCE | it's all related | Oct 06 19:34 |
| XFaCE | and has some level of collusion | Oct 06 19:34 |
| schestowitz | systemd not a hard req for gnome? | Oct 06 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes explained to me recently it's still somehow possible to avoid it | Oct 06 19:35 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: that seems to be in flux | Oct 06 19:35 |
| schestowitz | but not for long, or not simply | Oct 06 19:35 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Funtoo has standalone Gnome | Oct 06 19:35 |
| schestowitz | so then there's just one of each: init system, network system etc. | Oct 06 19:35 |
| XFaCE | by extension Gentoo to | Oct 06 19:35 |
| XFaCE | o | Oct 06 19:35 |
| schestowitz | and systemd expects app devs to rewrite their apps to cope with systemd apis | Oct 06 19:36 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: BTW, reading up it seems Gentoo has a systemd dev who develops the main alternative to systemd too | Oct 06 19:36 |
| XFaCE | openrc | Oct 06 19:36 |
| schestowitz | so that'll be the deal breaker | Oct 06 19:36 |
| schestowitz | as the apps are not even strictly tied to gnome itself (the shell) | Oct 06 19:36 |
| XFaCE | and for the past few years has been breaking openrc with unnecessary changes | Oct 06 19:36 |
| XFaCE | and is able to do this with impunity | Oct 06 19:37 |
| XFaCE | and no consequence | Oct 06 19:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I assume you saw that announcement about multiple versions of GTK4+ to be installed on one computer to help fix compatibility? | Oct 06 19:37 |
| XFaCE | how windows of them | Oct 06 19:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: so if you have an application that needs 4.2, and you have 4.6, you will have both versions installed | Oct 06 19:39 |
| XFaCE | and increased the number of versions for every GTK application on your computers | Oct 06 19:39 |
| XFaCE | *increase | Oct 06 19:40 |
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| MinceR | 06 203513 < schestowitz> systemd not a hard req for gnome? | Oct 06 19:45 |
| MinceR | it is, but funtoo/gentoo have patches to fix it | Oct 06 19:45 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd | Oct 06 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd: GNOME Without Systemd | Oct 06 19:46 | |
| MinceR | >systemd is a hard run time dependency for basic functionality | Oct 06 19:46 |
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| MinceR | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161005/15280135720/prominent-pro-patent-judge-issues-opinion-declaring-all-software-patents-bad.shtml | Oct 06 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prominent Pro-Patent Judge Issues Opinion Declaring All Software Patents Bad | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/puobt ] | Oct 06 19:49 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I prefer another alternative Gnome project, called Xfce :3 | Oct 06 19:54 |
| MinceR | i didn't know that was a gnome project | Oct 06 19:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: it's a joke | Oct 06 19:54 |
| MinceR | i like fvwm with xfce4-panel and xfce4-power-manager | Oct 06 19:55 |
| XFaCE | as in, the better alternative is to not run Gnome at all :P | Oct 06 19:55 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 06 19:55 |
| MinceR | in that case, i agree | Oct 06 19:55 |
| XFaCE | espcially if I have to waste time with "extensions" | Oct 06 19:55 |
| XFaCE | compare to Xfce, where the "extensions" are just additional applications that augment an ALREADY complete DE | Oct 06 19:56 |
| XFaCE | *AUGMENT* | Oct 06 19:56 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 19:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks, missed this link | Oct 06 19:58 |
| MinceR | yw | Oct 06 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/okertbrian/status/784114091342213120 | Oct 06 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@okertbrian: @schestowitz @DrJillStein that one is hard to buy. | Oct 06 20:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/fuZLzbV | Oct 06 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You're not supposed to report yourself, silly - Imgur | Oct 06 21:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784118663397908480 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Remix OS Brings Android For PC https://t.co/vFuSCiA1iM | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Oct 06 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remix OS Brings Android For PC - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124138097037312 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/7mKsU9TyvP | Oct 06 21:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124139355328512 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvB | Oct 06 21:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124141033009152 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits? | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HbXzU629hN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits? | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124142337400832 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security Tips | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LSfZdVw9nK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security Tips | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124143486631936 | Oct 06 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/GXL0Nhp0wU | Oct 06 21:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 21:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124182216970240 | Oct 06 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 | Oct 06 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rrfyTPHtRn (dot.kde.org) | Oct 06 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 21:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 | KDE.news | Oct 06 21:13 | |
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| zoobab | I love Gene Quinn | Oct 06 21:15 |
| zoobab | http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/10/06/judge-mayer-step-down-federal-circuit/id=73567/ | Oct 06 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It is time for Judge Mayer to Step Down from the Federal Circuit - IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law [ http://ur1.ca/puorl ] | Oct 06 21:15 | |
| MinceR | it hurts gene quinn's butt, as it should | Oct 06 21:24 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dXhjM9W.gifv | Oct 06 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Deer Loves Leaf Blower | Oct 06 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Marked_By_Rage favourited 'Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvB' | Oct 06 21:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784131642248011776 | Oct 06 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu | Oct 06 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org) | Oct 06 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 21:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu Linux | Techrights | Oct 06 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: he shoots his own foot | Oct 06 21:57 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: the headline is a lie | Oct 06 21:57 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: will respond to it soon | Oct 06 21:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: cute video... | Oct 06 22:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe the rich people think, "oohh, deer, it's delocious!" | Oct 06 22:01 |
| MinceR | not only the rich people do | Oct 06 22:01 |
| schestowitz | depends where | Oct 06 22:02 |
| schestowitz | in some places it's more "exotic" a menu item | Oct 06 22:02 |
| MinceR | and exotic menu items can't be good? :> | Oct 06 22:04 |
| schestowitz | expensive | Oct 06 22:10 |
| schestowitz | flown in | Oct 06 22:10 |
| schestowitz | we're not burning fossil fuels to transport dead animals for rich people's restaurants | Oct 06 22:11 |
| schestowitz | "not so bright folks, not so bright.."-Carlin | Oct 06 22:11 |
| MinceR | you're not? :> | Oct 06 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784134127763202048 | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org) | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784140028972822528 | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co) | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek | Oct 06 22:16 | |
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| MinceR | it's not like we produce much food inside cities | Oct 06 22:18 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/apples_software_may_not_be_so_terrible/ | Oct 06 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Is Apple's software getting worse or what? • The Register | Oct 06 22:27 | |
| DaemonFC | "Developer Marco Arment took Apple to task early last year, arguing that OS X (recently rebranded macOS) is full of embarrassing bugs and that the company is trying to do too much on unrealistic deadlines. | Oct 06 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Arment subsequently disavowed his post because of the widespread media attention it received. But there was blood in the water and the feeding frenzy has continued at Apple's expense, at least in part because controversy, manufactured or not, drives online traffic." | Oct 06 22:27 |
| MinceR | it can get worse? | Oct 06 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, Apple probably threatened to jam up his apps in the "approval process" and start kicking them back for all sorts of reasons, so he shut up and walked it back. | Oct 06 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The fact that there is suddenly all kinds of malware and ransomware for Macs is something they've been trying to sweep under the rug. | Oct 06 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | They can't blacklist it fast enough. By the time Apple responds, there's already another variant. | Oct 06 22:30 |
| MinceR | suddenly? | Oct 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Shortly thereafter, Apple executives Eddy Cue, SVP of internet software and services, and Craig Federighi, SVP of software engineering, responded to Mossberg's complaints in an interview with Daring Fireball's John Gruber. About 25 minutes in, Federighi said, "I know our core software quality has improved over the last five years. Improved significantly." And he noted that with regard to software quality, "There's nothing we care about more." | Oct 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | The Register asked Apple to provide some software quality metrics – the company gets crash reports from millions of its customers who opt in, and it has internal processes for assessing the quality of its engineering work. But Apple did not respond. | Oct 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Haha | Oct 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | No comment. | Oct 06 22:32 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/google_faces_age_discrimination_suit/ | Oct 06 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Google 'screwed over' its non-millennials – now they can all fight back • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup46 ] | Oct 06 22:33 | |
| stites | The greatest expansion in what software is patentable occurred when Judge Mayer was chief judge of the USCAFC. Judge Mayer oversaw the creation of software patents. Now Judge Mayer has written an opinion which fully agrees with the points made by any of the anti-software patent people, including me. There is a very good explanation of both the legalities and politics of Judge Mayer's ruling in te3chdirt. https://www.techdirt | Oct 06 22:33 |
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| DaemonFC | Intel does this too. They drop workers who turn 40. | Oct 06 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/early_indications_show_uk_favouring_hard_brexit_says_expert/ | Oct 06 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Early indications show UK favouring 'hard Brexit', says expert • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup4i ] | Oct 06 22:35 | |
| DaemonFC | "Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal" | Oct 06 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's likely to harm their economy much worse than the benefits it brings. | Oct 06 22:35 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Oct 06 22:36 |
| razielle_tzu | we're fucked | Oct 06 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | They are heavily reliant on agricultural imports, so the shock at the grocery register is going to be pretty bad if the tariffs hit. | Oct 06 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, they could start importing things from the US, to some extent. | Oct 06 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | We have surpluses on certain items to the point that it is triggering government buying to keep prices stable. | Oct 06 22:37 |
| razielle_tzu | we could... | Oct 06 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | The UK is already buying up coal that is being mined in Illinois that doesn't meet US clean air laws. | Oct 06 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | (Which just means that it gets burned somewhere else while we pretend that we don't share an atmosphere.) | Oct 06 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the high sulfur content means that much of the acid rain that it results in will affect the UK and surrounding countries. | Oct 06 22:39 |
| razielle_tzu | i know :/ | Oct 06 22:39 |
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| DaemonFC | There's just something about English-speaking countries and widespread denial of global warming and other environmental problems. | Oct 06 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | I ride past an old nuclear powere plant in Zion on the Metra train now and then. | Oct 06 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Some idiot inserted the control rods too far into one of the reactors back in the late 90s and accidentally shut it down, then tried to bring it back up too quickly without following procedure. | Oct 06 22:41 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/zUAtucP | Oct 06 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The latest version o - Imgur | Oct 06 22:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Ended up doing a ton of damage to the generators. | Oct 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | The other one was down for refueling. | Oct 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | ComEd came in, decided that their license would be up in a little over another decade, and decided that it would cost less to shut the plant down immediately. | Oct 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | They might have gotten an extension, but they might have spent hundreds of millions of dollars fixing the plant and then not getting a new license. | Oct 06 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | So they buried the reactor waste on-site, a few hundred feet from Lake Michigan. | Oct 06 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/784140168500350976 | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Soundtoxin new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co) | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek | Oct 06 22:44 | |
| DaemonFC | And then they started tearing down the facility. They sent a bunch of stuff to be stored or incinerated in Nevada. | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784146614516649984 | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wrapping up Outreachy https://t.co/tTOQ4A4G3v | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (renatagegaj.wordpress.com) | Oct 06 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-renatagegaj.wordpress.com | Wrapping up Outreachy | Renata's Blog | Oct 06 22:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147218479484928 | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/PUkfOFhSma | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Now there are armed guards and vehicle barricades, and all that good stuff. | Oct 06 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | They sold the license off to another company along with a bunch of decommissioning money they raised by tacking it on to Illinois power bills. | Oct 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Now the money is almost gone, the decommissioning is not on schedule, and the company will probably go bankrupt. The state or federal governments will have to get involved, meaning taxpayer money. | Oct 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | All of this over some electricity that was used up decades ago. | Oct 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, it makes me wonder what that technician is doing these days. | Oct 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Interviewer: "So what did you do at your last job?" | Oct 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think "I destroyed a nuclear power plant." is going to be a good answer. | Oct 06 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Congress won't pick a permanent storage site for nuclear waste, so we have all of these decommissioned facilities storing it on site with armed guards around it. | Oct 06 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | It will only get worse. | Oct 06 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Add on top of that, that we have all of these reactors going that were designed in the 60s and put into service in the 60s and 70s getting license extensions, and we don't even really know if that's safe. | Oct 06 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now, some of these are sitting near fault lines, in Tornado Alley, and in areas where a hurricane could even hit them. | Oct 06 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised that nothing has happened since Three Mile Island to be honest. | Oct 06 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147219624529921 | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bugs and Security https://t.co/xxy1zIxfZN | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bugs and Security | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147220845125632 | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Server Administration https://t.co/pLRqhYR351 | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server Administration | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147222887665664 | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/X12NIoEBTh | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147224196284417 | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LiJkWbDFAi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| MinceR | >"I just need things that work, and that I can rely on working," he lamented. "I say this with the utmost regret, sadness, and no small sense of betrayal: Apple doesn't seem to make those things anymore." | Oct 06 22:55 |
| MinceR | good morning, if crApple ever did that, they stopped decades ago | Oct 06 22:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/784148982968836100 | Oct 06 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: come on, it's obvious: *jam* https://t.co/qj60owZ1w9 | Oct 06 22:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal" https://t.co/pPY9QzhJw4 #uk #brexit | Oct 06 22:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Many of the malware attacks on Windowws have historically taken advantage of people who had updates turned off. | Oct 06 22:59 |
| MinceR | now m$ takes advantage of people who have updates turned on | Oct 06 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | There'd be a new major piece of malware spreading and it would turn out that Microsoft had actually patched the vulnerability it was using months ago. | Oct 06 23:00 |
| MinceR | using m$ products is not the solution, regardless of settings | Oct 06 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Apple recently patched abbout 90 security holes at once. | Oct 06 23:01 |
| MinceR | how many did they open at the same time? | Oct 06 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | They just let them pile up for months before fixing them. That's probably where so much of this malware is coming from. | Oct 06 23:01 |
| MinceR | crApple even lets upstream fixes pile up for months before delivering them | Oct 06 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the majority of the fixes in Webkit come from Google, Opera, Vivaldi, KDE, GNOME, etc. | Oct 06 23:03 |
| MinceR | (in BIND, for example) | Oct 06 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/microsoft_silent_outlookcom_woes/ | Oct 06 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Never explain, never apologize: Microsoft silent on Outlook.com email server grief • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupa6 ] | Oct 06 23:03 | |
| DaemonFC | Who uses ISP email> | Oct 06 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | If you leave, they delete your email account. | Oct 06 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/can_facebook_influence_an_election_result/ | Oct 06 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Can Facebook influence an election result? • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupab ] | Oct 06 23:04 | |
| DaemonFC | One reason why Hillary Clinton will win. | Oct 06 23:04 |
| MinceR | well, at least not golden dawnald | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook will probably alert mostly Clinton supporters to go vote. | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, John and I went to vote yesterday. | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Clinton | Oct 06 23:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for Democrats on most of the ballot. | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | There were some offices where it was Democrats vs. Greens with no Republican, so I voted for the Greens there. | Oct 06 23:06 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | I voted to remove about 40 judges from the bench. | Oct 06 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | To eliminate the Cook County Recorder of Deeds. To give workers a minimum of 40 hours paid sick leave. To create a constitutional requirement to use transportation-related taxes for transportation projects. | Oct 06 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Also for harsher sentencing for gun traffickers, people who illegally possess guns, and people who commit crimes with a gun. | Oct 06 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It was a hell of a printout at the end. | Oct 06 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | That's not even half of what we were voting on. :P | Oct 06 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like judges in general. To make things worse, they get lifetime appointments to the bench. So you have judges that have been there since the 60s and 70s. | Oct 06 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | Time for some new ones. I doubt they'll get any of them off the bench though. That's the part of the ballot where people go "Gee, I don't know." and either don't vote or vote yes on keeping all of them. | Oct 06 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | I just can't see how someone who has the worldview that it's still the 1970s is supposed to rule on some of these cases that they are getting. | Oct 06 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | They should get 20 years on the bench and then go back into private practice or something. | Oct 06 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | We're asking people who didn't have a computer until they were in their 40s and who don't know the difference between a Mac and a PC to rule if Facebook's photo tagging violates the biometric security law. | Oct 06 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Then to make things better, you get jurors who are plumbers, nursing assistants, and stockboys at Walmart deciding the case. | Oct 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | And the lawyers aren't allowed to explain what the law says. | Oct 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz keeps writing about East Texas. | Oct 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's what's happing. | Oct 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | The article says, | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook deployed the button in a massive experiment in the 2010 US congressional elections. | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Versions of the button, or no button at all, were shown to 61 million people in a joint study of the University of California, San Diego, with Facebook data scientists. | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | They used voting records to determine the button’s impact on real-world voting. It turns out the button’s call to action increased the total vote count by 340,000 votes. | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | ... | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | But who are those 340,000 extra voters, and why did Facebook poke them? | Oct 06 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | "t cites the example of the 2000 US presidential race, in which George W Bush beat Al Gore in Florida by a mere 537 votes. Had Gore carried Florida he would have won the presidential election." | Oct 06 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Officially, that's what happened. | Oct 06 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Republicans in the state government and on the US Supreme Court stopped the recount. | Oct 06 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | So it was 537, give or take some tens of thousands that got sent to the shredding machines. | Oct 06 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Facebook could therefore deploy the “I Voted” tool selectively only for supporters of candidates or political parties of its choosing, thereby amplifying only their votes. | Oct 06 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | This, it should be stated, would be legal, even if done covertly." | Oct 06 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | "But let’s assume that Facebook would not be willing to take such a risk." | Oct 06 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Let us assume no such thing. They already got caught burying news from conservative news sites. | Oct 06 23:19 |
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| DaemonFC | As far as the 2010 election goes, I doubt Facebook made significant changes to what the outcome would have been. | Oct 06 23:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784152859726245888 | Oct 06 23:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz They're at it in this country, too. | Oct 06 23:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Only about 12% of the elections for US House seats are truly competitive. The state parties have drawn districts around the voters (gerrymandering) to get their desired result for the district election very nearly all of the time. | Oct 06 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois is pretty funny, actually, when you look at the districts. | Oct 06 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Chicago has half of the districts, and then you get districts like that one downstate that's nearly 20% of the land area of the state by itself, and represented by a Republican that goes on Facebook to rant that we're doomed because the end times are coming and we've pissed God off. | Oct 06 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats drew the districts for Illinois, so they caged off a ton of Republican voters who get one representative in that district. | Oct 06 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised there was even a Republican on my ballot for Congress this year. This district is D+24. :P | Oct 06 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | https://ballotpedia.org/Illinois%27_2nd_Congressional_District | Oct 06 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ballotpedia.org | Illinois' 2nd Congressional District - Ballotpedia | Oct 06 23:29 | |
| DaemonFC | In the last election, the Democrat got 78.5% of the vote. | Oct 06 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Is this how elections are in Hungary? | Oct 06 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | They write the election laws so it's impossible to get rid of them no matter how you vote? | Oct 06 23:30 |
| MinceR | no, it's different | Oct 06 23:31 |
| MinceR | the usa has a 2-party system | Oct 06 23:31 |
| MinceR | hungary has a 1-party system | Oct 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz | us is a 1.5-party system ;-) | Oct 06 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://gizmodo.com/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-1771012990 | Oct 06 23:32 |
| schestowitz | 0.5 overlaps ;-) | Oct 06 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Facebook Employees Asked Mark Zuckerberg If They Should Try to Stop a Donald Trump Presidency [ http://ur1.ca/pupfl ] | Oct 06 23:32 | |
| DaemonFC | “I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as ‘others,’” Zuckerberg said, never referring to Trump by name. “I hear them calling for blocking free expression, for slowing immigration, for reducing trade, and in some cases, even for cutting access to the internet.” | Oct 06 23:32 |
| MinceR | fidesz/kdnp rewrote the election laws so they can get 2/3 of the seats in the parliament even if they get a minority of the votes | Oct 06 23:32 |
| MinceR | and put in more ways they can game the system | Oct 06 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook does block free expression. You piss a few people off, they go crying to Facebook, your account gets banned for 3 days. | Oct 06 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I've had it happen a few times. | Oct 06 23:33 |
| MinceR | there are rumors that they're planning to retroactively make the last (failed) referendum valid | Oct 06 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That's worse than it is here. | Oct 06 23:33 |
| MinceR | no shit | Oct 06 23:33 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever again | Oct 06 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats would have to get 58% of the total US House vote to be sure to get 50% of the seats. | Oct 06 23:33 |
| MinceR | also tell everyone else the same | Oct 06 23:33 |
| schestowitz | [23:33] <MinceR> DaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever again | Oct 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | + | Oct 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | 1 | Oct 06 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook is always looking for ways to break Facebook customization browser extensions. | Oct 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | i helped others delete their account too | Oct 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | does fb still use b0ng? | Oct 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, they say that there's a feature in their Messenger apps for iOS and Android now that let you have a private conversation, end-to-end encryption, self-destruct messages, etc. | Oct 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Claim FB can't even read them. | Oct 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz | e.g. for search, translations? | Oct 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It has all of those "What about the children!?" people up in arms. | Oct 06 23:35 |
| MinceR | don't trust dFB with that either | Oct 06 23:35 |
| MinceR | "they trust me" | Oct 06 23:35 |
| MinceR | "dumb fucks" | Oct 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz | in the ears | Oct 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | So I posted to their walls "People shouldn't trust Facebook. They should use uTox for a private conversation.". | Oct 06 23:35 |
| MinceR | an alleged end-to-end encrypted communication software is worthless if it isn't free software | Oct 06 23:36 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 06 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing you should say on Facebook Messenger is "If you want a private conversation, meet me on uTox.". | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | they take the private keys | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | I reckon | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | same thing I suppose apple does | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | but it's 'cloud' and proprietary, so FBI will say, "use it, it's safe"... | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | e2e | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | with us as the ends' 'backup' | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | wink wink | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784159115706830848 | Oct 06 23:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz @glynmoody @rj_gallagher Glyn is absolutely fearless! | Oct 06 23:50 | |
| schestowitz | he has nothing to hide [sarcasm /] | Oct 06 23:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SamSamK007/status/784163944021815296 | Oct 06 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SamSamK007: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @HillaryClinton https://t.co/wEENZED9gh | Oct 06 23:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks like someont polled the Illinois Transportation Lockbox Amendment and "Yes" is at 80%. | Oct 07 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | It should easily pass. (We voted yes.) | Oct 07 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody trusts the legislature to stop raiding transportation funds and diverting it to other things. | Oct 07 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that I'm not the only one who gets mad that I'm paying hundreds of dollars in transportation taxes each year and every time I turn down another road I hit a pothole. | Oct 07 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | With any luck, we'll also get a new Comptroller and that puppet of Governor Rauner who is funding his priorities and starving out things like Medicaid has to leave. | Oct 07 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | The state never has enough money to pay its bills, so they fund priorities of the Republican Party and tell everyone else to wait. | Oct 07 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Rauner has managed to inflict a lot of damage on transportation so far. | Oct 07 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | He impounded the money that Metra was going to use to buy new passenger rail cars. Now they're going to have to keep the ones they have rolling. Many were overdue for replacement 16 years ago. | Oct 07 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | So the lockbox amendment is a big "fuck you" to him. | Oct 07 00:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Brad_Kayl/status/784165805353164805 | Oct 07 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brad_Kayl: @schestowitz None of my Ubuntu machines can connect, but my Windows partition magically works just fine. Hm.... #DeletingMyAccount | Oct 07 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | Outlook | Oct 07 00:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: your url | Oct 07 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Outlook isn't very reliable. | Oct 07 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | A few years back, thye broke it in their own web browser and told people to use Chrome for a while. :) | Oct 07 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Oct 07 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Have to put a new sticker on my windshield before the $200 parking tickets start rolling in. :P | Oct 07 00:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @ender74dev http://twitter.com/ender74dev/status/784164646504792066 | Oct 07 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software in a Box Daily wurde soeben publiziert! | Oct 07 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DNUNwz7bi6 (paper.li) Vielen Dank an | Oct 07 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @avazquezmendez @phil_taylor_iw #devops | Oct 07 00:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Software in a Box Daily | Oct 07 00:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784168421114146816 | Oct 07 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/89EOCSlj1g | Oct 07 00:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 07 00:16 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7936187 | Oct 07 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk https://electrek.co/2016/10/06/tesla-updated-browser-linux-os-december-says-musk/ | Oct 07 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Why does a car need a web browser?" | Oct 07 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek [ http://ur1.ca/pupvv ] | Oct 07 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | not to play pokemon go, that's for sure | Oct 07 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, People are paying Uber drivers to take them Pokemon hunting. | Oct 07 01:11 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz | waste of fuel | Oct 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz | and time | Oct 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz | facebook was mostly a waste of time | Oct 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz | at least that stupid games makes some people walk around rather than watch tv all day | Oct 07 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Hillary Clinton's lead is expanding in the polls. | Oct 07 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Donald Trump is going to have to convince a lot of people to vote for him over the next 33 days, and many states have voting going on now. | Oct 07 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | So it doesn't look likely. | Oct 07 01:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784170349629956096 | Oct 07 01:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/89EOCSlj1g | Oct 07 01:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 01:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784174559238955009 | Oct 07 01:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Arch Terminal Desktop https://t.co/iK7xu5qqZR | Oct 07 01:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.lifehacker.co.in) | Oct 07 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.co.in | The Arch Terminal Desktop | Life Hacker India | Oct 07 01:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | Some kind of catastrophe would have to happen in the next month, and even if it does, a lot of the votes are going to be locked in. | Oct 07 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | You can't vote early and then go back and change your mind. | Oct 07 01:19 |
| MinceR | won't uncertain voters just vote at the last moments? | Oct 07 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | I never vote on election day. It's a great big clusterfuck of people who waited until the last minute. | Oct 07 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah. | Oct 07 01:20 |
| MinceR | there[3~ you go, lots of people voting on the last day :> | Oct 07 01:20 |
| MinceR | thanks, irssi | Oct 07 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, History shows that the more people turn out to vote, the more Democrats win. | Oct 07 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | So my thinking is that if John and I early vote, which we did, it means two less people standing in line then. | Oct 07 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, But all of the polls are open on election day. In early voting, that's not the case. | Oct 07 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | In Chicago, it starts at the Cook County building on September 29th, and the other early voting sites don't start opening until a couple of weeks later. | Oct 07 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | By election day, most people don't have to travel more than a block. | Oct 07 01:22 |
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| cubexyz | ok, re-examining df.c from unix v5, should be interesting | Oct 07 01:41 |
| cubexyz | df | Oct 07 01:55 |
| cubexyz | oops | Oct 07 01:55 |
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| cubexyz | reporting used and available blocks would be nice | Oct 07 02:06 |
| cubexyz | you might be wondering if v6 and v7 did that | Oct 07 02:07 |
| cubexyz | they did not | Oct 07 02:09 |
| cubexyz | the Unix v8 df command was much better | Oct 07 02:11 |
| cubexyz | too bad qmc didn't bother improving df | Oct 07 02:22 |
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| cubexyz | evidently Ampex Corp made a new improved df but the source code wasn't recovered | Oct 07 02:29 |
| cubexyz | ah, too tired to dig into it now | Oct 07 02:32 |
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| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/lenovo-in-talks-to-buy-fujitsus-loss-making-pc-business/ | Oct 07 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lenovo in talks to buy Fujitsu’s loss-making PC business | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqdz ] | Oct 07 02:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo is taking over what's left of Fujitsu's PC business. | Oct 07 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo is promising to keep existing factories and jobs, but eventually most will be closed/fired. | Oct 07 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | When it took over Motorola it let people keep their jobs, but not for very long. | Oct 07 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/cops-arrest-hundreds-of-people-allegedly-involved-in-irs-phone-scam/ | Oct 07 02:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Cops arrest hundreds of people allegedly involved in IRS phone scam | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqec ] | Oct 07 02:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Open source IT pros are in high-demand in Europe | Oct 07 02:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source IT pros are in high-demand in Europe | Tux Machines | Oct 07 02:50 | |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/10/gears-of-war-4-the-next-gen-is-now-if-youre-on-windows-10-at-least/ | Oct 07 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Gears of War 4: The next gen is now—if you’re on Windows 10, at least | Ars Technica | Oct 07 02:56 | |
| DaemonFC | If you use Intel graphics, you need their beta driver, or your computer will crash when you load the game. | Oct 07 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | "Gears of War 4's campaign mode might be one of the worst I've played in years." | Oct 07 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | Gears of War fell off a pretty steep cliff after the first one. | Oct 07 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | And it was really hard to play the campaign without a second player in some spots on the first game. | Oct 07 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft marketed the Xbox One as a console capable of 4K, but the Gears of War 4 game is locked to 1080p and 30 fps. | Oct 07 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | This isn't the first time they fudged. | Oct 07 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | Halo 3 on the XBOX 360 wasn't even rendered at 720p. It just upscaled. | Oct 07 03:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209114826100737 | Oct 07 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 Developer | Oct 07 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition Laptop in US & EU https://t.co/gM1HQW28fW | Oct 07 03:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ray_Aldred/status/784306959839223808 | Oct 07 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ray_Aldred: @schestowitz So now what sort of laptop should I buy that is #Linux friendly?! #lenovo used to be my go-to company. :( | Oct 07 09:30 | |
| schestowitz | #system76 maybe | Oct 07 09:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ray_Aldred/status/784312587529793536 | Oct 07 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ray_Aldred: @schestowitz I've been considering it, but sadly the word on the street (reddit discussion, ubuntu forums etc.) is #system76 is a mix bag. | Oct 07 09:45 | |
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| Tervy | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/you_know_that_ridiculously_expensive_oculus_rift_yeah_it_just_got_worse/ about the custom headphonejacks | Oct 07 11:42 |
| Tervy | why.jpg | Oct 07 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Y'know that ridiculously expensive Oculus Rift? Yeah, it just got worse • The Register | Oct 07 11:42 | |
| schestowitz | did anyone here try it? | Oct 07 11:52 |
| schestowitz | I tried something similar, made me have a headache quickly | Oct 07 11:52 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/rGJnI | Oct 07 12:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784305262979010560 | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/IgwRkRsjlN | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784309277359902720 | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mediatek https://t.co/xL4KRT6e0z (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with Mediatek - Tizen Experts | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352452531392512 | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Encrypt Certificates https://t.co/BAEP1TQTwT | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 12:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt Certificates | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| MinceR | dnf/yum/rpm quality package management >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/ | Oct 07 12:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352707880579074 | Oct 07 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming Soon | Oct 07 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Ubuntu MATE 16.04 https://t.co/ksMiuFOkUF | Oct 07 12:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming Soon to Ubuntu MATE 16.04 | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353159363919872 | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/SLhd2vetxz | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353559626276864 | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keyring Non-Containable https://t.co/yczrHCQpQ2 | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 12:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel Keyring Non-Containable | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's a good thing red hat has fedora to experiment on ;-) | Oct 07 12:29 |
| schestowitz | so as not to affect their paying customers | Oct 07 12:29 |
| MinceR | except they deploy all their halfbaked shit to rHELL too | Oct 07 12:31 |
| MinceR | like systemd | Oct 07 12:31 |
| MinceR | someone needs to tell them that letting crappy software rot and fester for a year doesn't magically make it stable | Oct 07 12:31 |
| MinceR | yum was garbage as well | Oct 07 12:31 |
| MinceR | and there's no indication that dnf is any better | Oct 07 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784354553869336576 | Oct 07 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It | Oct 07 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Launches on October 13 https://t.co/Ew82eltFfW | Oct 07 12:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It Launches on October 13 | Oct 07 12:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @slackolinux retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt...' | Oct 07 12:33 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch. The end result that guys point of view https://solettaproject.org/ or systemd | Oct 07 13:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 07 13:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784356019925291008 | Oct 07 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tomb Raider for Linux is currently super cheap on the | Oct 07 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feral store https://t.co/mMoElBsZc4 | Oct 07 13:54 |
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| cubexyz | both Lenovo and System76 are merely system integrators | Oct 07 14:11 |
| cubexyz | Quanta is the real manufacturer for Lenovo and many others | Oct 07 14:11 |
| cubexyz | it's still Lenovo's fault that Linux didn't work on the Yoga 900 though | Oct 07 14:12 |
| cubexyz | Clevo Computer makes laptops for system76 | Oct 07 14:13 |
| cubexyz | I've heard that the system76 machines aren't great with the BSDs | Oct 07 14:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: BSD has less drivers than Linux so is very simple to end up land mined. | Oct 07 14:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/OS/C236.cfm some of the land mining is funny. | Oct 07 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supermicro.com | Super Micro Computer, Inc. - Support | OS Compatibility Chart [ http://ur1.ca/puth5 ] | Oct 07 14:20 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: thoses are all the same core intel chipset do take note of the X11SAT | Oct 07 14:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: also Windows Server 2012 R2 64bit in UEFI section not booting. | Oct 07 14:22 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, you're back | Oct 07 15:12 |
| cubexyz | haven't seen you in a while | Oct 07 15:12 |
| cubexyz | wow, no 32-bit support? | Oct 07 15:13 |
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| cubexyz | I'm not a big fan of system76 or los alamos computers | Oct 07 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Yes those boards don't have drivers for 32 bit. | Oct 07 15:21 |
| cubexyz | that would change if they supported coreboot... which to the best of my knowledge they don't | Oct 07 15:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I saw how far I could get with only 2G of ram. | Oct 07 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Turns out not far enough to run my irc clients happy enough with everything else. | Oct 07 15:22 |
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| cubexyz | ridiculous... :) | Oct 07 15:22 |
| cubexyz | I'm using 256 megs on this box | Oct 07 15:22 |
| oiaohm | I normally have firefox, chrome and libreoffice and vlc open. | Oct 07 15:23 |
| oiaohm | Plus a irc client. | Oct 07 15:23 |
| cubexyz | ok, chrome and firefox are definitely memory pigs | Oct 07 15:23 |
| oiaohm | Don't underestimate vlc or apt update. | Oct 07 15:24 |
| oiaohm | or apt upgrade. | Oct 07 15:24 |
| cubexyz | you can run IRCII in quasijarus on 16 megs | Oct 07 15:24 |
| oiaohm | One apt upgrade managed to eat though 4G of swap on top of the 2G of ram. | Oct 07 15:24 |
| oiaohm | I could not work out why that was until I worked out zswap not in zbud mode is nasty. | Oct 07 15:25 |
| cubexyz | you must be running much heavier stuff than me | Oct 07 15:26 |
| cubexyz | openbsd + icewm and 256 megs... and no issues with memory | Oct 07 15:26 |
| cubexyz | pkg_add works fine | Oct 07 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Firefox and chrome hurt. | Oct 07 15:26 |
| oiaohm | same with vlc. | Oct 07 15:26 |
| oiaohm | At the moment vlc is using twice as much ram as chrome. | Oct 07 15:27 |
| cubexyz | I must admit I never use vlc | Oct 07 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Put this way firefox, chrome or vlc in 2G of memory is fine. | Oct 07 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Want to run all 3 at once like I do say hello to trouble. | Oct 07 15:30 |
| oiaohm | At 4G of ram I still cannot play 0ad with everything else loaded. | Oct 07 15:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: note this is running LXQt windows manager is it not that eating me out of house and home. | Oct 07 15:31 |
| oiaohm | I think I have lived with 8G ram systems for too long to go back. | Oct 07 15:32 |
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| cubexyz | I've heard of LXDE but not LXQt | Oct 07 15:34 |
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| oiaohm | https://blog.lxde.org/?p=1364 LXQt is a Qt based version of LXDE. Over all close to the same memory foot print. | Oct 07 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lxde.org | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | LXDE Blog | Oct 07 15:36 | |
| cubexyz | ok, interesting | Oct 07 15:36 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: catch you around off to bed. | Oct 07 15:40 |
| cubexyz | ok, later | Oct 07 15:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/RSGNrI0QQ8 | Oct 07 17:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Oct 07 17:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424106963841024 | Oct 07 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/0u56G1wE6S | Oct 07 17:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 17:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 07 17:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424108075257856 | Oct 07 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Wants Data, Loses Data https://t.co/cgIUd6n1Sl | Oct 07 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 17:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Wants Data, Loses Data | Tux Machines | Oct 07 17:04 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/q7iYpRo | Oct 07 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You can't delete that file - Imgur | Oct 07 17:07 | |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 07 17:08 |
| cubexyz | the error message is that the file exists? | Oct 07 17:16 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Oct 07 17:16 |
| cubexyz | they need 8 hex digitals to keep track of all the different errors | Oct 07 17:19 |
| cubexyz | digits | Oct 07 17:19 |
| cubexyz | microsoft office error: 0x0000000FF1CE | Oct 07 17:21 |
| cubexyz | don't use 0xDEADC0DE | Oct 07 17:22 |
| razielle_tzu | heh | Oct 07 17:22 |
| cubexyz | in theory it's possible to max out number of temp files on windows | Oct 07 17:31 |
| cubexyz | maybe there's a 65,635 file limit or something | Oct 07 17:32 |
| cubexyz | so if you had 65,635 temp files and tried to delete a file it's possible you would have to delete some temp files first | Oct 07 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424109128101888 | Oct 07 17:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800 | Oct 07 17:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | languages, including dead ones https://t.co/i4HKDEEncq | Oct 07 17:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800 languages, including dead ones | Tux Machines | Oct 07 17:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424110185074689 | Oct 07 17:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It | Oct 07 17:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Launches on October 13 https://t.co/ILnZp85I6s | Oct 07 17:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It Launches on October 13 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 17:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @inet_solutions http://twitter.com/inet_solutions/status/784428717229613057 | Oct 07 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I think you might find this article about | Oct 07 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the top 25 SEO facts & stats extremely interesting | Oct 07 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4l5azRnWgs (www.inetsolutions.org) | Oct 07 17:40 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AmiRojkes favourited 'Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800...' | Oct 07 17:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/AmiRojkes/status/784433512841637891 | Oct 07 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with | Oct 07 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AmiRojkes Mediatek https://t.co/xL4KRT6e0z (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 07 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 18:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with Mediatek - Tizen Experts | Oct 07 18:16 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/QX6W3Eo.gifv | Oct 07 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Oct 07 18:16 | |
| MinceR | http://cube-drone.com/comics/c/magic-eight-ball | Oct 07 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cube-drone.com | Cube Drone - - Magic Eight Ball | Oct 07 18:30 | |
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| antilope | hi | Oct 07 18:46 |
| antilope | this is how an internal EPO court looks like, including an Austrian judge.. | Oct 07 18:47 |
| antilope | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzz700H6T9M | Oct 07 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Roland Freisler - President of the German Nazi Court (with subtitles) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/puugm ] | Oct 07 18:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | Mozilla has been talking about split-process, Pepper API, and replacing pdf.js with PDFium. | Oct 07 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of wonder, at this point, why they don't just rebase on Chromium, which already has all of the features they are trying to shoehorn into Firefox. | Oct 07 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | Opera gave up on Presto for the same reason. | Oct 07 19:21 |
| MinceR | i stopped caring about what they do when they made pulseaudio mandatory | Oct 07 19:24 |
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| MinceR | http://jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu/2012/08/julius-caesar-wally-wood-mad-monday.html | Oct 07 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu | Inside Jeff Overturf's Head: "Julius Caesar!" - Wally Wood - Mad Monday! [ http://ur1.ca/puupt ] | Oct 07 19:45 | |
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| schestowitz | [13:15] <oiaohm> MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch. The end result that guys point of view https://solettaproject.org/ or systemd | Oct 07 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 07 20:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://solettaproject.org/ ) | Oct 07 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | posted a link to it the other day, maybe that's where oiaohm found it | Oct 07 20:08 |
| MinceR | more cancerd advertisement, i don't care | Oct 07 20:08 |
| MinceR | (also mixed up with some IoT advertisement) | Oct 07 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR:yes, yum I always found to be sucky compared to apt | Oct 07 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | dnf is hardly excited, the yum guy died, shortly afterwards they rebranded their packaging | Oct 07 20:09 |
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| schestowitz | [19:18] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/iHB8bgz.jpg | Oct 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz | crude | Oct 07 20:20 |
| MinceR | i don't see how | Oct 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz | not for the faint-hearted | Oct 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz | well, let's just say I won't post it publicly | Oct 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz | although there's a funny element to it | Oct 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz | I don't get the one with the tap | Oct 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz | clearly it was designed this way | Oct 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz | not as a prank | Oct 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz | maybe the world's worst plumber, my friend had experience with a few recently, one after another they messed up the bath, each time with different shoddy work | Oct 07 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ElinaBeauchamp/status/784477703621664768 | Oct 07 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ElinaBeauchamp: @yahoo is not worth anything anymore https://t.co/TdR4cBSxKP | Oct 07 20:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "join the Debian LEGO team in the Alioth project we | Oct 07 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | created yesterday" https://t.co/gd5jFbu41s | Oct 07 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (people.skolelinux.org) | Oct 07 20:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.skolelinux.org | Petter Reinholdtsen: Isenkram, Appstream and udev make life as a LEGO builder easier | Oct 07 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476862735056900 | Oct 07 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, Android | Oct 07 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hccZoFp3nW (www.slashgear.com) | Oct 07 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, Android - SlashGear | Oct 07 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/784479007014346752 | Oct 07 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @schestowitz @nypost That is so interesting, I think it's right colonies pay the price for colluding with state agencies | Oct 07 20:45 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Oct 07 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ArnoldDuendis/status/784483624452186112 https://twitter.com/kempton276/status/784484224657219586 https://twitter.com/ThomasPaine5/status/784485843834576896 | Oct 07 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka malgnd by stupid,impatient ppl.wik never said oct 4 would be anything more than what it was.dummies cant read. | Oct 07 21:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kempton276: @schestowitz @wikileaks @WLTaskForce - if you decided not to release the supposed "October surprise " then just say so! Getting impatient! | Oct 07 21:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThomasPaine5: @Thomas_Drake1 @schestowitz @Sulliview And then their market cap dropped by $1 billion. | Oct 07 21:16 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel, Android OEMs, and more | Ars Technica | Oct 07 21:31 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Secret Ingredient [ http://ur1.ca/puv72 ] | Oct 07 21:42 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Groundstain/status/784493921627799552 | Oct 07 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Groundstain: @schestowitz @wikileaks I did not even think about donating to them.Thanks for the suggestion. | Oct 07 21:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/m9s1FO1CLv | Oct 07 21:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment | Oct 07 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in GNU/Linux Distros https://t.co/3Lft6QYg5m | Oct 07 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/GSYnFfAxA3 (lwn.net) | Oct 07 21:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784495594794516480 | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.7.7 https://t.co/axNBAh2bsT (lwn.net) | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.4.24 https://t.co/vjPVL0dgYk (lwn.net) | Oct 07 22:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784496114435297280 | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMC | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | option https://t.co/ngdHfHaOrJ (hackerboards.com) | Oct 07 22:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMC option | Oct 07 22:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why Linux pioneer Linus Torvalds prefers x86 over ARM | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/r4668WPj1I (www.cio.com) | Oct 07 22:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Linux pioneer Linus Torvalds prefers x86 over ARM | CIO | Oct 07 22:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9: F2FS Gets Performance Enhancements, EXT4 Gets | Oct 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fixes https://t.co/lJl8VcaP1U (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 23:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9: F2FS Gets Performance Enhancements, EXT4 Gets Fixes - Phoronix | Oct 07 23:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Integrated Sensor Hub (ISH) Support In Linux 4.9 | Oct 07 23:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Systemd Now Supports The RISC-V CPU Architecture | Oct 07 23:28 |
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| MinceR | >cancerd is not portable between cpu architectures | Oct 07 23:29 |
| MinceR | what a piece of shit | Oct 07 23:29 |
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| cubexyz | ok, new blog... | Oct 08 00:05 |
| cubexyz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/ | Oct 08 00:05 |
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| cubexyz | Hopefully it's somewhat helpful | Oct 08 00:05 |
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| cubexyz | I'll bet | Oct 08 02:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 08 02:43 |
| MinceR | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186 | Oct 08 03:04 |
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| schestowitz | [03:04] <MinceR> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186 | Oct 08 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 817186 – systemd incorrectly handles virtual text terminals | Oct 08 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 2012 | Oct 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz | talk about dead horse by now.. | Oct 08 09:48 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not exactly that bug is still alive in debian stable. Reason for using backports systemd. | Oct 08 10:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September | Oct 08 11:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away | Oct 08 11:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX8 “eCockpit” SoC arrives, with media and IoT versions | Oct 08 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | i.MX8 "eCockpit" SoC arrives, with media and IoT versions coming | Oct 08 12:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Enlightenment's Ecore_Drm2 Library Is Working Out Well | Oct 08 12:02 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/K3SARA/status/784709861871202304\ | Oct 08 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K3SARA: @schestowitz Google Chrome does the same when you sync your passwords. | Oct 08 12:09 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, an even greater evil | Oct 08 12:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "The Wine maintenance release 1.8.5 is now available." | Oct 08 12:37 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: still CLOSED WONTFIX | Oct 08 12:41 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there was a new version of that bug in 2014 that in fact got fixed. | Oct 08 13:22 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: turned out the reason why X11 had to be vt1 also linked to why systemd would lose serial terminals. | Oct 08 13:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do note I am running systemd my X11 is on vt7 I am using Nvidia drivers and I am also using LXDM and everything works perfectly these days. | Oct 08 13:29 |
| MinceR | good for you | Oct 08 13:30 |
| MinceR | until suddenly it isn't | Oct 08 13:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that particular bug is fixed. | Oct 08 13:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you are running modern enough systemd | Oct 08 13:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do not I am running testing debian. Do the same thing on stable debian strange things do come out. | Oct 08 13:31 |
| oiaohm | not/note | Oct 08 13:31 |
| MinceR | strange things will happen to you too | Oct 08 13:31 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing since version 225 most of the strangeness stopped. | Oct 08 13:34 |
| oiaohm | I am on 231 at moment. | Oct 08 13:34 |
| oiaohm | Only strangeness left is with some wm login out and finding session does not end in logind. But that is mostly due to those wm in fact leaking processes on logout. | Oct 08 13:35 |
| MinceR | the design flaws are still there | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | and the evil politics are also still there | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | debian is still a smoldering ruin | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | but some people keep going "it hasn't blown up in my face yet, so it must be perfect" | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | enjoy your reinvented windows | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | what i don't get is that if systemd people love huge opaque hairballs with atrocious designs, why don't you just run windows | Oct 08 13:37 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing quite a few of the design flaws have in fact gone by by ok not all of them but they have been reducing. | Oct 08 13:39 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/unary http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1475593004-20161004after.png | Oct 08 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Unary | Oct 08 13:39 | |
| MinceR | so, what are the separated major components named? where are the stable APIs between them? | Oct 08 13:39 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/libsystemd/libsystemd.sym stable API between them I guess you did not look into libsystemd .so file. Yes its versioned. 221 is where you see the sd_bus appear. | Oct 08 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemd/libsystemd.sym at master · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/puz81 ] | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| MinceR | so what if it's versioned? there are no minor versions | Oct 08 13:49 |
| MinceR | the whole thing churns like hell | Oct 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | That is not true. | Oct 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: look again. | Oct 08 13:49 |
| MinceR | it's amusing how you systemd people like to redefine terms like 'modular' and 'stable' to try to make this mess look good | Oct 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Not at all. | Oct 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Stable ABI only starts appearing in systemd at the first version in libsystemd | Oct 08 13:50 |
| MinceR | hell, even 'free software' was effectively redefine to accommodate ratcrap's microsoftian tactics | Oct 08 13:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so all versions of systemd with version numbers less than 209 have no stable ABI. | Oct 08 13:50 |
| oiaohm | This is why I said reducing. | Oct 08 13:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: churns like hell applies to the earlier version of systemd. Really its annoying how long it took systemd to get to building stable ABI. | Oct 08 13:53 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd bad ABI starts with a bad idea. kdbus ie get kdbus into kernel after that stabilised the interfaces. Not good logic. | Oct 08 13:56 |
| MinceR | let's not get started on bad ideas in how systemd started, that would last for a week | Oct 08 13:56 |
| oiaohm | Like for sure you don't want to be using systemd lower than 221 the interconnects between stuff in those versions are too much cross fingers and pray. | Oct 08 13:58 |
| oiaohm | But there are a lot of different Linux LTS versions release with systemd less than 221 | Oct 08 13:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also do note systemd has not double version any function so far because every time they have added a function to the ABI it has stayed absolutely the same. | Oct 08 14:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so systemd is getting something right these days. | Oct 08 14:03 |
| MinceR | yet debian and even rHELL released with earlier versions | Oct 08 14:04 |
| MinceR | systemd "stable" | Oct 08 14:04 |
| MinceR | systemd will get something right when it gets shut down and replaced with GNU again | Oct 08 14:04 |
| MinceR | not that it would restore my trust in the distros that touted it as "stable" | Oct 08 14:05 |
| oiaohm | The problem here is sysvinit and upstart before system are both broken. | Oct 08 14:06 |
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| MinceR | the problem here is that you're still pretending that systemd is just an init system | Oct 08 14:06 |
| MinceR | and that sysvinit and upstart are just as broken as systemd | Oct 08 14:07 |
| MinceR | and that other init systems don't even exist | Oct 08 14:07 |
| oiaohm | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I this guy and others tried all the different init systems before going systemd or writing soletta because everything was technically broken. | Oct 08 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 08 14:09 | |
| oiaohm | What is the problem for years debian, redhat everyone just kept on using sysvinit or other imported init systems from Unix. Linux kernel does a lot of things that is not Unix like at all. | Oct 08 14:10 |
| MinceR | again, implying that systemd is not broken | Oct 08 14:11 |
| MinceR | despite all evidence | Oct 08 14:11 |
| oiaohm | systemd turns out to be less broken. | Oct 08 14:11 |
| MinceR | in your dreams, maybe | Oct 08 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Not in my dreams. | Oct 08 14:11 |
| MinceR | you never studied software engineering, have you? | Oct 08 14:11 |
| oiaohm | In fact I have. | Oct 08 14:11 |
| MinceR | and you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc? | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: like that minor ddos flaw that crashes a system | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | "minor" | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | not distributed though | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | if you mean the notify thing | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: in which a systemd developer demonstrated ignorance | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | sever ignorance | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | all it takes is 1 unprivileged user | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | *severe | Oct 08 14:12 |
| oiaohm | In fact no. | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | yep | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | 08 151201 < MinceR> and you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc? | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | but it was fixed, so this "minor" flaw is acceptable | Oct 08 14:12 |
| oiaohm | The reported dos required systemd built with debugging. | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | you know, things an init system is supposed to do | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | not run a web server as root in pid1, and shit like that | Oct 08 14:13 |
| XFaCE | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/systemd_is_not_magic_security_dust | Oct 08 14:13 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd does not run a web server as pid1 | Oct 08 14:13 |
| MinceR | oh, it doesn't? | Oct 08 14:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: never has. | Oct 08 14:13 |
| MinceR | that's a relief | Oct 08 14:13 |
| MinceR | then it just does a dozen other things as root in pid1 | Oct 08 14:13 |
| MinceR | like parsing untrusted input | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd is a multi process thing if a web server is kicked up it is it own pid. | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | and communicating on the network | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, except when it is not | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | No communicating on network is not in pid. | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | opps pid1 | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | not even the one that brings up a random container on your machine? | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | Lots and lots of things people claim are in systemd pid1 are not. | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | (because obviously an "init system" must do that too) | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | lots of things still are in pid1, though | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: container importing that is no pid1 never has been. | Oct 08 14:15 |
| MinceR | i suppose you're also ignoring the vulnerabilities its dns resolver adds to the system | Oct 08 14:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: dns resolver of systemd is it own process and can be disabled and does support processing dnssec where glibc default does not. | Oct 08 14:16 |
| MinceR | does dnssec help with its severe vulnerabilities? | Oct 08 14:16 |
| MinceR | good to hear there's one thing you can disable in that hairball though | Oct 08 14:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: dnssec makes it harder to spoof dns entries. | Oct 08 14:16 |
| MinceR | unlike the part that fucks up your system logs | Oct 08 14:16 |
| MinceR | ah, so you're ignoring the issues | Oct 08 14:17 |
| MinceR | classic cognitive dissonance | Oct 08 14:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I < do watch and see how much of systemd he manages to turn off. | Oct 08 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 08 14:17 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: he even turns off to shock horror journald completely. | Oct 08 14:18 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: " Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients."" | Oct 08 14:18 |
| MinceR | watch how much of systemd i can turn off | Oct 08 14:18 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: systemd-free.org :) | Oct 08 14:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: turns out systemd will fall back to using old school logging if journald is removed. | Oct 08 14:18 |
| MinceR | (hint: all of it) | Oct 08 14:18 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: schestowitz https://davmac.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/why-do-we-keep-building-rotten-foundations/ | Oct 08 14:19 |
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| XFaCE | "The new release of Gtk is going to be fully parallel-installable with the old one. Gtk 4 and Gtk 3 will install alongside each other in exactly the same way as Gtk 2 and Gtk 3 — separate library name, separate pkg-config name, separate header directory. You will be able to have a system that has development headers and libraries installed for each of Gtk 2, 3, 4 and 5, if you want to do that." | Oct 08 14:20 |
| XFaCE | "Meanwhile, Gtk 4.0 will not be the final stable API of what we would call “Gtk 4”. Each 6 months, the new release (Gtk 4.2, Gtk 4.4, Gtk 4.6) will break API and ABI vs. the release that came before it." | Oct 08 14:20 |
| XFaCE | "We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system" | Oct 08 14:20 |
| MinceR | i wonder if anyone other than gnome will want to use that crap | Oct 08 14:21 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I wonder how long until they rename it libgnome | Oct 08 14:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 08 14:22 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Gnome runtime? XD | Oct 08 14:22 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: the DBUS API for DNS resolution is due to the horrible reality DNS normal protocol is not design to cope with a case where you have DNS entries with and without DNSSEC at the same time. | Oct 08 14:22 |
| MinceR | lendows internal library #4324 | Oct 08 14:22 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: Ie no space in protocol to send mess yes we got X resolve but its insecure. | Oct 08 14:23 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, that would be impossible to do with a function call to a library | Oct 08 14:23 |
| MinceR | it's not like you can just add parameters | Oct 08 14:23 |
| MinceR | or use structs to pass parameters or receive results in | Oct 08 14:23 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Talking around I've learned that DBUS could have been implemented using the existing TIPC support in the Linux kernel | Oct 08 14:24 |
| XFaCE | and better too | Oct 08 14:24 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 14:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the library defines that need to be updated is for libc posix standard and gnu c have defined the library DNS functions. | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | too bad "better" is not how lendows people function | Oct 08 14:25 |
| XFaCE | but that would violate the "not invented here" doctrine | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, it's impossible to add another library or another function | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | which is why gtk also doesn't exist | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | and neither does libsystemd | Oct 08 14:25 |
| XFaCE | or or lib.* | Oct 08 14:26 |
| XFaCE | /lib.* | Oct 08 14:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: then you will complain about applications have a solid systemd dependancy. | Oct 08 14:27 |
| MinceR | no | Oct 08 14:27 |
| MinceR | this dbus fuckage is what generates a solid systemd dependency | Oct 08 14:27 |
| XFaCE | of course, there isn't a huge incentive by the sysd people to have those | Oct 08 14:27 |
| XFaCE | cough | Oct 08 14:27 |
| XFaCE | "We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system" | Oct 08 14:27 |
| XFaCE | oops | Oct 08 14:28 |
| MinceR | because only systemd is stupid enough to use dbus for things that don't need dbus and are actually more fragile with dbus | Oct 08 14:28 |
| XFaCE | " Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients." | Oct 08 14:28 |
| MinceR | remember, dbus is "designed" to require a reboot to be restarted | Oct 08 14:28 |
| MinceR | and yet we're supposed to use that crap on servers and workstations | Oct 08 14:28 |
| oiaohm | dbus was design to be posix netural in the first place leading to it not using stuff like TIPC. | Oct 08 14:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: here's another thing that should have been obvious: it's possible to implement a DNS resolver library as an independent project | Oct 08 14:29 |
| MinceR | it doesn't have to be part of systemd | Oct 08 14:29 |
| XFaCE | oiaohm: lol of course | Oct 08 14:29 |
| XFaCE | let's not use an existing STANDARD protocol | Oct 08 14:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the standard DNS resolver library format need to be updated for DNSSEC | Oct 08 14:29 |
| XFaCE | "Dual BSD/GPL licensed code" - TIPC feature | Oct 08 14:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the bit in the libc standard defines. | Oct 08 14:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: a few moments ago you said it was impossible | Oct 08 14:29 |
| MinceR | make up your mind already | Oct 08 14:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: currently impossible because those guys are stuck in a 3 year aguement so far about how in hell it should be implemented. | Oct 08 14:30 |
| MinceR | "posix neutral" as in "If developers don't force themselves into the constraints of the POSIX API, they could develop some really innovative software, like systemd shows." | Oct 08 14:30 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: well, if you don't want to understand what i'm telling you, then don't | Oct 08 14:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: DNS resolver library standard has not been updated for DNSSEC. systemd developers wasted 2 years attempting to get it updated before going the dbus route. | Oct 08 14:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lets just say that one problem leaded to a meg out of control cat fight in the old UNIX camp. | Oct 08 14:33 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Given the Gnome devs behaviour on Transmission, I'm gonna guess they went on the issue tracker and demanded rudely that their demands come first | Oct 08 14:33 |
| oiaohm | Not everything systemd does is their fault some cases there are some really stupid things going on. | Oct 08 14:35 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, because coming up with a new dbus call is somehow more acceptable than coming up with a new library call | Oct 08 14:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the arguement is currently 42 new library calls. | Oct 08 14:35 |
| MinceR | yes, stupid things like letting poettering design anything | Oct 08 14:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you cover all the random crap they are implementing. | Oct 08 14:35 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Coming up with dbus from scratch is more acceptable than using an existing standard protocol | Oct 08 14:35 |
| XFaCE | ofc | Oct 08 14:36 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: gnome always comes first, apparently | Oct 08 14:36 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: they tried the standard protocol way first only to find you have 42+ different ways to implement it all ready. | Oct 08 14:36 |
| MinceR | it's more important than other people's servers or my workstations | Oct 08 14:36 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: all incompadible. | Oct 08 14:36 |
| MinceR | and instead if picking one or coming up with their own, they made it depend on the toy known as dbus | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | lendows logic | Oct 08 14:37 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: dbus way at least you can put a wrapper on it. | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's impossible to wrap c functions | Oct 08 14:37 |
| XFaCE | a turd wrapped in gold is still a turd | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | which is why nobody ever did it | Oct 08 14:37 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: I am not saying it not a turd. | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | yes you are | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | in so many words | Oct 08 14:37 |
| oiaohm | But its a turd formed because of a very much bigger turd. | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | in so many turds | Oct 08 14:38 |
| XFaCE | "Sure Windows is poorly conceived, but that's only cause of OS/2!" | Oct 08 14:38 |
| oiaohm | I really wish a proper dns resolver spec with dnssec mixed with non dnssec support would become agreed on then killing the systemd dbus stuff would be possible. | Oct 08 14:39 |
| XFaCE | aha, the "Windows has games" argument | Oct 08 14:40 |
| MinceR | yeah, because killing systemd lock-in is so easy | Oct 08 14:40 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Yeah, it's not like there are developers intentionally crippling certain alternatives too? | Oct 08 14:41 |
| XFaCE | *cough*Gentoo*cough* | Oct 08 14:41 |
| XFaCE | *cough*OpenRC*cough* | Oct 08 14:41 |
| XFaCE | thank goodness for Runit | Oct 08 14:42 |
| MinceR | yeah, nobody ever said things like "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call." | Oct 08 14:42 |
| oiaohm | soletta that is not systemd processes systemd unit files. | Oct 08 14:42 |
| MinceR | so it's garbage, like systemd | Oct 08 14:42 |
| MinceR | does it also silently ignore changes in unit files if the changes are incorrect, like systemd does? | Oct 08 14:42 |
| MinceR | also, soletta is for IoT, which i don't care for | Oct 08 14:43 |
| MinceR | at least until IoT zombies start DDoSing stuff i use | Oct 08 14:43 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: or the next president declares a cyberwar | Oct 08 14:43 |
| MinceR | why declare wars anymore, it's so much easier to just do what you want | Oct 08 14:43 |
| oiaohm | soletta is designed for iot so as compact as possible. Soletta does not ignore errors in unit files. | Oct 08 14:43 |
| MinceR | ignoring citizens and keeping everyone in the dark | Oct 08 14:43 |
| oiaohm | systemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider. | Oct 08 14:44 |
| MinceR | and soletta is modeled after systemd, making it the ideal target for IoT exploits | Oct 08 14:44 |
| MinceR | yeah, you can replace it with a fork of itself | Oct 08 14:44 |
| MinceR | or with a different implementation of the same braindead toxic design | Oct 08 14:44 |
| oiaohm | There is no systemd code in soletta | Oct 08 14:44 |
| XFaCE | oh it's replaceable - but by something completely incompatible | Oct 08 14:44 |
| XFaCE | which is a good thing fortunately | Oct 08 14:45 |
| MinceR | all i ever dreamed of doing is reimplementing some idiot's broken dbus APIs for the sake of compatibility | Oct 08 14:45 |
| MinceR | (and remember, dbus is garbage) | Oct 08 14:45 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: It | Oct 08 14:45 |
| XFaCE | It's like being a wine developer | Oct 08 14:45 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 08 14:46 |
| XFaCE | minus any appeal whatsoever | Oct 08 14:46 |
| MinceR | but since ratcrap is not called microsoft, they get a free pass | Oct 08 14:46 |
| MinceR | even from people who noticed the wrongdoings when m$ did them | Oct 08 14:46 |
| MinceR | i'm looking at you, Gratis Windows Foundation | Oct 08 14:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: soletta no dbus. | Oct 08 14:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: nah, those same people are now clapping over new Microsoft and the Linux subsystem | Oct 08 14:46 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 14:47 |
| XFaCE | "new" | Oct 08 14:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so how will soletta replace systemd? | Oct 08 14:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how will it satisfy the demands of gnome looking for systemd-timedated and systemd-hostnamed? | Oct 08 14:47 |
| oiaohm | I did not say soletta will in it current form be able to replace it all. Compared to attempting to transfer shell scripts between init systems vs unit files it turns out unit files are fairly bug free. | Oct 08 14:50 |
| MinceR | 08 154407 < oiaohm> systemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider. | Oct 08 14:50 |
| MinceR | looks like systemd is a lot less replaceable than you considered. | Oct 08 14:50 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: nah, the uselessd developer was just lazy | Oct 08 14:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: have you ever seen bsd rc files? | Oct 08 14:50 |
| XFaCE | amirite | Oct 08 14:50 |
| MinceR | uselessd was just a pointless fork | Oct 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | removing random bits from systemd won't fix the underlying severe design flaws | Oct 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | and neither will it fix the cult's behavior | Oct 08 14:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bsd rc files are a lot more common sense than sysvinit have been. | Oct 08 14:51 |
| XFaCE | ok, I agree oiaohm | Oct 08 14:51 |
| XFaCE | then why didn't we switch to OpenRC instead? | Oct 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, debian's and redhat's rc files being complex is not sysvinit's fault | Oct 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: because we're pretending openrc doesn't exist | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | or runit | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | it's far more to justify forcing everyone to systemd if we pretend only sysvinit and systemd exist | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | it's sysVinit or nothing | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | NOTHING | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | s/more/easier/ | Oct 08 14:52 |
| oiaohm | Openrc even today still has more crashing faults than the first systemd. | Oct 08 14:52 |
| oiaohm | So basically not ready. | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | good, you can replace it | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | actually, it's stable, unless you count post 0.13 versions | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | systemd is not ready either | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | did that stop the cultists? | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | whereby a systemd developer has basically been sabotaging it | Oct 08 14:53 |
| MinceR | when will they get rid of that asshole? | Oct 08 14:53 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: hard to say, he's entrenched and knows how to play the bureaucratic game | Oct 08 14:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: to be correct sysvinit is based on faultly logic that a process id will never be reused leading to hacks around that. | Oct 08 14:53 |
| MinceR | can he also affect funtoo and other forks or only gentoo? | Oct 08 14:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: fortunately forks are already in progress, and Funtoo exists as an alternative | Oct 08 14:54 |
| XFaCE | only gentoo | Oct 08 14:54 |
| XFaCE | funtoo stopped at version 0.12 | Oct 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: still far less faulty in practice than systemd relying on a system they themselves admit does not work reliably | Oct 08 14:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: in other words, they saw the writing | Oct 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: i see | Oct 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown? | Oct 08 14:55 |
| MinceR | s/sed/ses/ | Oct 08 14:55 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: even so, there's always runit | Oct 08 14:56 |
| oiaohm | oiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown? that was fixed in 220 | Oct 08 14:56 |
| XFaCE | Void Linux uses it | Oct 08 14:57 |
| MinceR | that's great | Oct 08 14:57 |
| MinceR | too bad enterprise clients got sold 219 | Oct 08 14:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ubuntu and redhat backported the patch. | Oct 08 14:57 |
| MinceR | even in rHELL 7.2 | Oct 08 14:57 |
| oiaohm | In updates. | Oct 08 14:58 |
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| MinceR | ah, so that's the new "stable" release | Oct 08 14:58 |
| MinceR | it doesn't work at all, but don't worry, we'll fix it eventually | Oct 08 14:58 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: like the GTK framework :P | Oct 08 14:59 |
| MinceR | if your business critical stuff fails in the meantime, that's just too fucking bad | Oct 08 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Linux 3.8.0? | Oct 08 14:59 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: systemd 219, rHELL 7.2 | Oct 08 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | 4* | Oct 08 14:59 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i thought linux stopped making stable releases long ago | Oct 08 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | https://kernel.org/ | Oct 08 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | > stable: 4.8.1, 4.7.7 | Oct 08 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kernel.org | The Linux Kernel Archives | Oct 08 15:00 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: remember, sysvinit could shut down systems reliably, with SIGTERM, pause, SIGKILL | Oct 08 15:00 |
| MinceR | for decades. | Oct 08 15:00 |
| MinceR | but i guess that's just not "modern" enough | Oct 08 15:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no sysvinit had the other problem where at times the system would not shutdown at all. | Oct 08 15:00 |
| MinceR | yeah, systemd had that too | Oct 08 15:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: they fixed that with over killing. | Oct 08 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | systemd has a watchdog which waits for a while, then shutdowns eventually. | Oct 08 15:01 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit does not have a critical watchdog. | Oct 08 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | so the point of shutting down is always eventually achieved | Oct 08 15:01 |
| MinceR | yeah, just your stuff doesn't get to save its state | Oct 08 15:02 |
| MinceR | like shell history | Oct 08 15:02 |
| MinceR | but who needs that | Oct 08 15:02 |
| MinceR | yanking the power cord out is the new "modern" | Oct 08 15:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yanking the power cord was kind of the jammed sysvinit solution. | Oct 08 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | if bash won't shutdown for 10 minutes, I doubt shell history will be lost because of the watchdog %) | Oct 08 15:02 |
| MinceR | again, if i wanted to run an OS that can't do anything reliably, i'd just run the winblows i was forced to buy along with my hardware. | Oct 08 15:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and hoping your discs were properly flushed. | Oct 08 15:03 |
| XFaCE | [10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern" | Oct 08 15:03 |
| XFaCE | MS DOS :P | Oct 08 15:03 |
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| MinceR | or you could use magic sysrq | Oct 08 15:03 |
| MinceR | except... | Oct 08 15:03 |
| MinceR | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/12/21/1554227 | Oct 08 15:03 |
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| cubexyz | I don't remember seeing any problem with sysvinit on Xenix or Linux | Oct 08 15:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: magic syqrg does not promise disc flushing either. | Oct 08 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | watchdog is per-service | Oct 08 15:03 |
| XFaCE | [10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern" | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at least it lets you tell the system to sync everything and unmount everything | Oct 08 15:04 |
| XFaCE | the new modern is installing stuff in virtual containers and when it breaks just rebooting or replacing said VM | Oct 08 15:04 |
| XFaCE | who care about long-term reliability | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | i do | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | but then, i'm not running lendows | Oct 08 15:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you need some badly behaved items loaded to have shutdown issues on Xenix but it possible. | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | and i don't buy into the "VMs will fix all our problems" religion either | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, badly behaved items do that on linux too -- like systemd | Oct 08 15:05 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: it won't fix them, but it will obfuscate around them nicely | Oct 08 15:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 08 15:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I locked a Xenix up with a 2 scripts where every time one died the other started a new copy. | Oct 08 15:06 |
| MinceR | and add some more problems | Oct 08 15:06 |
| MinceR | and help hw sales | Oct 08 15:06 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, which version of Xenix? Or was it Unix SysV? | Oct 08 15:06 |
| cubexyz | btw I've been running Linux Sysvinit (FC1) since 2004 | Oct 08 15:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: System V.2.3.4 the 1991 of Xenix | Oct 08 15:08 |
| cubexyz | if you really don't like sysvinit why not run one of the BSDs? | Oct 08 15:08 |
| cubexyz | for server... | Oct 08 15:09 |
| XRevan86 | daemontools is the worst | Oct 08 15:09 |
| MinceR | he'd rather run windows | Oct 08 15:09 |
| MinceR | but can only afford the closest gratis thing, systemd | Oct 08 15:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I hate windows way more than I hate sysvinit. | Oct 08 15:10 |
| cubexyz | I have a server that does automatic shutdowns when the UPS loses power | Oct 08 15:10 |
| cubexyz | no problems... | Oct 08 15:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: but you like svchost, don't you? | Oct 08 15:10 |
| cubexyz | and I have 12 years of experience with it | Oct 08 15:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: svchost great way to hide a virus. | Oct 08 15:10 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i had that too, until the machine decided it won't talk to my ups anymore | Oct 08 15:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: exactly | Oct 08 15:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: same thing is true for systemd | Oct 08 15:10 |
| oiaohm | No systemd in fact has proper reporting of what is contained. | Oct 08 15:11 |
| MinceR | sure | Oct 08 15:11 |
| oiaohm | svchost you can have it completely lie. | Oct 08 15:11 |
| MinceR | did it properly report all the unchecked null dereferences too? | Oct 08 15:11 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, I assume you were using apcupsd? | Oct 08 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Windows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call. | Oct 08 15:11 |
| MinceR | i'm using nut | Oct 08 15:11 |
| MinceR | i have an eaton ups | Oct 08 15:12 |
| cubexyz | you can reload the USB sub-system I think' | Oct 08 15:12 |
| cubexyz | if it stops communicating | Oct 08 15:12 |
| MinceR | i guess the next reboot will fix it... | Oct 08 15:12 |
| MinceR | even lsusb hangs | Oct 08 15:12 |
| MinceR | and i can't even kill it with ^C | Oct 08 15:12 |
| MinceR | 08 161155 < oiaohm> Windows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call. | Oct 08 15:13 |
| MinceR | of course it did | Oct 08 15:13 |
| MinceR | they come from the same culture | Oct 08 15:14 |
| MinceR | and have the same underlying idea | Oct 08 15:14 |
| cubexyz | I would try reloading usb-storage, but maybe your system is different | Oct 08 15:14 |
| oiaohm | daemontools + sysvinit was a great way to let lose hell. | Oct 08 15:14 |
| cubexyz | rmmod usb-storage then insmod usb-storage fixed some issues for me | Oct 08 15:14 |
| MinceR | if i ping timeout, it didn't :> | Oct 08 15:14 |
| cubexyz | also some external usb hard drives should be avoided | Oct 08 15:15 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: examples? | Oct 08 15:15 |
| MinceR | nope, not even loaded here | Oct 08 15:15 |
| MinceR | there are no usb devices plugged into the server other than the ups | Oct 08 15:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no systemd is more GNU culture of badly copy Unix world stuff. I have told you before the unix world stuff they were attempting to copy. | Oct 08 15:15 |
| cubexyz | XFaCE, any really el cheapo chinese ones | Oct 08 15:15 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which unix world stuff does stuffing several unrelated services in the same process? | Oct 08 15:15 |
| cubexyz | I think WD one of the better ones | Oct 08 15:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: X11 | Oct 08 15:16 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: show me a windowing system that is more modular than X11. | Oct 08 15:16 |
| cubexyz | anyways my only shutdowns have happened when the utility power fails for longer periods of time | Oct 08 15:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there are so many windows systems truly more modular not bound to a single event loop for decades. | Oct 08 15:17 |
| cubexyz | also I made some reliability improvements to FC1 and I understand it pretty well | Oct 08 15:18 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which of them do properly separate out the window manager and the widget toolkit? | Oct 08 15:18 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, your Linux is probably significantly different from my FC1 server | Oct 08 15:18 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 15:18 |
| cubexyz | a lot of stuff has changed since then | Oct 08 15:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: system in fact fires off a lot of processes. So does not really stuff unrelated stuff into the same process. | Oct 08 15:19 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: non sequitur | Oct 08 15:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: X11 core server until recently had input and 2d rendering in the same thread. This is why when X11 server starts rendering hard input would freese. | Oct 08 15:19 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure the job of init, rc, udev, [x]inetd, crond and atd are still in pid1 | Oct 08 15:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: only one out if that list is in fact in systemd pid1. | Oct 08 15:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: other windowing systems tend to build the window manager and the widget toolkit into the display server. far less modular, far less flexible. | Oct 08 15:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: [citation needed] | Oct 08 15:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of those things are fired off by the PID1 but not in the PID1. | Oct 08 15:21 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: [citation needed] | Oct 08 15:21 |
| oiaohm | systemd-udevd.service << this is because udevd is a service in it own right with its own pid. | Oct 08 15:22 |
| MinceR | right, so that's udev | Oct 08 15:22 |
| MinceR | what about the others? | Oct 08 15:22 |
| cubexyz | xchat and X itself used the most CPU time | Oct 08 15:22 |
| cubexyz | not httpd | Oct 08 15:22 |
| cubexyz | significantly more | Oct 08 15:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you will find inetd, crond and atd stuff are all services under systemd in own right. | Oct 08 15:23 |
| MinceR | what are they called? | Oct 08 15:23 |
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| MinceR | not only did systemd take over the job of crond, it even broke crond with cgroups cargo culting | Oct 08 15:27 |
| cubexyz | if you really wanted to be strict you could run your server without X running | Oct 08 15:28 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, did your 1991 Xenix have internet running? | Oct 08 15:29 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/uh2-2.jpg | Oct 08 15:29 |
| cubexyz | wow, 2.3.4 is pretty old | Oct 08 15:30 |
| cubexyz | don't think my Xenix ever had TCP/IP | Oct 08 15:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Xenix was something stand alone monoring stuff. | Oct 08 15:31 |
| cubexyz | I think sysv stuff started around 1983 so it's been around for a long time | Oct 08 15:33 |
| cubexyz | solaris was a SVR4 derivative | Oct 08 15:34 |
| cubexyz | Sun went from BSD derived to SVR4 derived | Oct 08 15:35 |
| cubexyz | I sure don't remember people talking about sysvinit problems back then | Oct 08 15:36 |
| cubexyz | heck, a driver bug could bring down the system in any case | Oct 08 15:38 |
| cubexyz | or resource exhaustion | Oct 08 15:39 |
| cubexyz | or hardware failure | Oct 08 15:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: resource exhaustion happened lot when restarting services losing still running processes. | Oct 08 15:39 |
| oiaohm | Lets just say sysvinit failure to track was not being linked back to sysvinit. Instead lets attempt to replace X service with Y service and hope it don't leak. | Oct 08 15:40 |
| cubexyz | doesn't the OOM killer supposed to fix that in Linux? | Oct 08 15:40 |
| oiaohm | OOM killer can still cause data loss. | Oct 08 15:41 |
| cubexyz | true | Oct 08 15:41 |
| cubexyz | well you need a good operator watching things | Oct 08 15:41 |
| oiaohm | So you don't want to be hitting resourse exhaustion becuase you have been restarting a service and it has not been restarting cleanly. | Oct 08 15:41 |
| oiaohm | We have need something better than sysvinit for some time. | Oct 08 15:42 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: also remember you don't want to be paying a operator to watch stuff 24/7. This is where being able to set proper limits on services come in. | Oct 08 15:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: catch you around. | Oct 08 15:44 |
| cubexyz | later :) | Oct 08 15:44 |
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| cubexyz | nowadays the Linux processes have /proc/some_PID/oom_score | Oct 08 15:46 |
| cubexyz | anyways, I know how FC1 does things so I'm usually not surprised | Oct 08 15:47 |
| cubexyz | hackers are always trying new tricks though | Oct 08 15:47 |
| cubexyz | I think the IBM mainframes do a better job of watchdogging things | Oct 08 15:49 |
| cubexyz | for one thing.. the hardware is a lot more redundant | Oct 08 15:51 |
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| cubexyz | also a mainframe probably does have a 24/7 operator | Oct 08 15:52 |
| cubexyz | we even did for PDP-10s | Oct 08 15:52 |
| cubexyz | the mainframe OS might even be _smaller_ than the PC version | Oct 08 15:53 |
| cubexyz | there's no GUI stuff in there | Oct 08 15:53 |
| cubexyz | I should try running linux on S390 sometime | Oct 08 16:00 |
| cubexyz | there's a couple of things I'm curious about | Oct 08 16:00 |
| cubexyz | there's even a Gentoo for IBM Z systems | Oct 08 16:01 |
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| XFaCE | cubexyz: I have used Z/OS before | Oct 08 16:10 |
| XFaCE | the GUI is... refreshing primitive :P | Oct 08 16:10 |
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| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dd1-4.jpg | Oct 08 16:28 |
| MinceR | >Please do not swallow bags of unpopped popcorn before dying, you are giving our cremation technicians nervous tics! | Oct 08 16:30 |
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| cubexyz | '07 but we're still around... ;) | Oct 08 18:05 |
| cubexyz | no mad max yet | Oct 08 18:06 |
| cubexyz | Bizarro reminds me of the Far Side a bit | Oct 08 18:11 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe-l%27%C5%93il | Oct 08 18:14 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/784805517122236416 | Oct 08 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz You mean you'd like to be buried at sea or actually be minced & sold as feed to a salmon waterfarm? ;-) | Oct 08 18:22 | |
| schestowitz | The latter would profit for me, so no, the former | Oct 08 18:22 |
| schestowitz | The latter would profit from me, so no, the former | Oct 08 18:22 |
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| cubexyz | ah a pity, discovered another part of Unix v5 is missing: spline | Oct 08 21:25 |
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| cubexyz | wow, did Unix v5 cc use extern or not | Oct 08 21:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, yes it did... so there's a change that the v5 version of cc could compile Unix v6 spline.c | Oct 08 21:29 |
| cubexyz | ok, this is one complex chunk of code | Oct 08 21:34 |
| cubexyz | if this works, it will be the most complex program recompiled for v5 | Oct 08 21:35 |
| cubexyz | v6 and v5 spline.c could be the same, I don't have any way of knowing | Oct 08 21:35 |
| cubexyz | bah | Oct 08 21:41 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Nothing seems to be raising Lenovo's stock price for very long. | Oct 08 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | The Linux news goes out, it drops from $5.24 HKD to $5.09. They announce the Motorola layoffs, it bounces back for a few days, then goes back down. They announce they're acquiring Fujitsu's PC business, same thing. | Oct 08 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | It seems to be finding its support around 5.14-5.20 HKD | Oct 08 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/ | Oct 08 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo won't make Windows 10 phones due to Microsoft's commitment issues | Oct 08 22:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Someone asked why it would be an issue since "Windows 10 is the same OS on every device.". | Oct 08 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Not true. Those phones require customization by the OEM. | Oct 08 22:39 |
| MinceR | there's no customization that would make Backdoors10 not shit | Oct 08 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I mean to get it running on each device. | Oct 08 22:40 |
| MinceR | my condolences | Oct 08 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | There's a reason they can't offer hundreds of phones running Windows 10. They would run into the same problem you get with Android. | Oct 08 22:40 |
| MinceR | which "problem", diversity? | Oct 08 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Apple has to support a handful of phones. Android OEMs have to customize the firmware for each device. | Oct 08 22:41 |
| MinceR | or that there are few devices that aren't shit? | Oct 08 22:41 |
| MinceR | yeah, all of crApple's devices are garbage | Oct 08 22:41 |
| MinceR | and so is the OS running on them | Oct 08 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Intel had a plan to make phones where the same Android image would run on all of them. | Oct 08 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | They backed out though, so we have to deal with this ARM mess some more. | Oct 08 22:42 |
| MinceR | ah, ARM being a total mess is the problem | Oct 08 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | The SoCs are all very different. | Oct 08 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to have Intel smartphones. It would help the OEMs keep Android more current. | Oct 08 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Too much porting work. OEMs already don't want to support their older hardware. This just gives them something else to blame. | Oct 08 22:46 |
| MinceR | too bad intel sucks at power consumption | Oct 08 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's not as bad as it used to be. There were a ton of unbelievably shitty Android phones running Gingerbread that went on for way too long. | Oct 08 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Not their current stuff. | Oct 08 22:47 |
| MinceR | so why isn't it in phones? | Oct 08 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not entirely certain. | Oct 08 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of these flagship phones running ARM SoCs get shit battery life. | Oct 08 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Like the Galaxy S6. | Oct 08 22:48 |
| MinceR | it seems samsung got rid of the people who knew how to design phones | Oct 08 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | There have been numerous software updates for my phone, it still goes 100-0 in like 5-6 hours of actual use. | Oct 08 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | This is one of the worst phones I have ever owned. | Oct 08 22:49 |
| MinceR | they used to make a galaxy s5 which had a removable battery, memory card slot and was waterproof | Oct 08 22:49 |
| MinceR | now all they make are hypePhone-imitating timebombs | Oct 08 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | John's S6 Edge cracked for no reason. | Oct 08 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | It was fine when he put it on the table and the next morning, the screen was cracked. | Oct 08 22:50 |
| MinceR | though maybe if they looked hard, they could find material for backplates that are even less fit for the purpose | Oct 08 22:50 |
| MinceR | say, uranium | Oct 08 22:50 |
| MinceR | or mercury | Oct 08 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm trading in my S6 as soon as I can. | Oct 08 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's a lease, so I'm going to drop by Best Buy and turn it in the day the lease expires. | Oct 08 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I have about 10 months to go. | Oct 08 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | The next phone must have Micro SD slot, removable battery, and stock Android without bloatware. | Oct 08 22:51 |
| MinceR | do such phones even exist? | Oct 08 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, 5-6 hours is unacceptable, but it was worse. | Oct 08 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint and Samsung packed my phone full of battery killing crapware. | Oct 08 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Onedrive drains your power even if you never set up an account. | Oct 08 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | It keeps heckling you until you disable it. | Oct 08 22:52 |
| MinceR | can you use unlocked phones in the usa? | Oct 08 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | And Sprint loaded Lookout, a horrible antivirus program that wastes power scanning every file and app. | Oct 08 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You can, if you want to buy it for full price. | Oct 08 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint gave me a package deal that includes unlimited LTE data and unlimited calls and texts, and the phone is basically waived from the price of the plan. | Oct 08 22:54 |
| MinceR | that would get rid of the carrier's bloatware | Oct 08 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | They were really pushing the lease hard so that's why I got the S6. It was basically that or an iPhone. | Oct 08 22:54 |
| MinceR | ew | Oct 08 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've been working around the shit battery life on the S6 by carrying a power bank around with me. | Oct 08 22:55 |
| MinceR | maybe they could try making phone casings out of radioactive gallium isotopes | Oct 08 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung phones have really been going downhill since the S6 came out. | Oct 08 22:56 |
| MinceR | and before | Oct 08 22:57 |
| cubexyz | backdoors10 not shit == impossible | Oct 08 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/ | Oct 08 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : Lenovo | Oct 08 23:11 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point 4 days ago | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Failure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold. | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | "Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo." | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | [...] | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Sorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason: | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2 | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Error:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program. | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveeditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | [–]PlsAnswer19836 [S] 1 point 1 day ago | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | What do you mean? | Oct 08 23:12 |
| MinceR | http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1054.html | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Oct 08 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.giantitp.com | Giant In the Playground Games [ http://ur1.ca/pv1ox ] | Oct 08 23:12 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | I mean that they won't give you a recovery stick in case Windows gets hosed and your OneKey Recovery doesn't work. | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | That basically guarantees that eventually, many people will have to ship their laptop to Lenovo and hope they get it back sometime before the sun flash boils the oceans and then engulfs the inner planets. :) | Oct 08 23:12 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think I'll give the Yoga a miss | Oct 08 23:12 |
| cubexyz | just a hunch | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | The hardware is pretty nice. | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's this damned BIOS that ruins it. | Oct 08 23:13 |
| MinceR | i'll keep staying away from non-thinkpad lenovos | Oct 08 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | You can't do anything except use Windows 10 with it. | Oct 08 23:13 |
| MinceR | as i always did :> | Oct 08 23:13 |
| cubexyz | and R30's :) | Oct 08 23:13 |
| cubexyz | you probably won't like those | Oct 08 23:13 |
| MinceR | what are they like? | Oct 08 23:14 |
| cubexyz | hard to fix, and they overheat | Oct 08 23:14 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 08 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | So there's this company called AdReclaim that stuffs pages full of Clickbait "Taboola" style ads and pop-unders, but only if the user has ad blocking. | Oct 08 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | It exploits a bug in Chrome that stops content blockers from blocking websockets requests. | Oct 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | The company claims it can evade 100% of ad blockers, but that only seems to be the case in Chrome. | Oct 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | In Firefox, their method doesn't work. In Edge, their method doesn't work. In Internet Explorer with TPL ad blocking lists, their method doesn't work. In Opera with the built-in ad blocker, their method doesn't work. | Oct 08 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Two-thirds of desktop web browser users now use Chrome, so maybe they figure that's good enough. | Oct 08 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Their business will die off if Google ever decides to patch Chrome. | Oct 08 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe they just plan to make as much money as they can until Google gets around to that. | Oct 08 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Or if enough sites deploy AdReclaim that people flood back to Firefox to get away from it. | Oct 08 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Adblock Plus still hasn't bothered to solve the Facebook issue. ublock-origin did. | Oct 08 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I guess ABP is too busy working on effectively becoming adware to worry about this. | Oct 08 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've been working on energy efficiency for a while now. | Oct 08 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Between John and me, we're using about 4 kWh per day. | Oct 08 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | That's down from about 7 or 8. That's base load, not counting air conditioning, which we don't need for the better part of 9 months out of the year in Illinois. | Oct 08 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | The landlords run a boiler system for heat. | Oct 08 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois will probably be facing an energy crisis within the next five years. | Oct 08 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | ComEd is threatening to shut down two nuclear power plants unless the state gives them a billion dollars and the state doesn't have a billion dollars because it's Illinois. | Oct 08 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | So we'll move from being a net exporter of power to a net importer of power. | Oct 08 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | The people running this state are idiots. | Oct 08 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | They've been asking voters to vote no on the transportation lockbox constitutional amendment (after they passed it and got it on the ballot to keep people from going door to door gathering support through a citizen initiative). | Oct 08 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | They're yanking a billion dollars a year from transportation taxes and spending it on other things, which is extremely stupid. | Oct 08 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | We get federal matching funds on almost all of the transportation projects that aren't being funded, so the state loses a billion a year from the federal government. | Oct 08 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | So I voted yes on the lockbox. | Oct 08 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I would have voted to stop them from raiding other things, if I could. | Oct 08 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | As far as the Democrats are concerned, the entire state should be sacrificed on the altar of unfunded teacher pensions. | Oct 08 23:27 |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/jpbrammer/status/784787726604333056 | Oct 08 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jpbrammer: Mike Pence is an earnest man who simply wants to electrocute LGBT children until they're straight. Shame he's been dragged into this mess. | Oct 08 23:55 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: on the upside... | Oct 02 08:56 |
| schestowitz | hundreds saw your headline | Oct 02 08:56 |
| schestowitz | and dozens read the body | Oct 02 08:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: are you OK with me reposting it in techrights? | Oct 02 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah | Oct 02 08:56 |
| schestowitz | is there enough background in there? | Oct 02 08:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: this can go on for months | Oct 02 08:59 |
| schestowitz | and ought to | Oct 02 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know where to take this next. | Oct 02 08:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: can you add an intro sentence? | Oct 02 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | Like? | Oct 02 08:59 |
| schestowitz | To explain it's you who started the whole thing and what it did? | Oct 02 09:00 |
| schestowitz | the existing text being the latest | Oct 02 09:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: so that it doens't start like "Oh, yeah..." | Oct 02 09:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: just once concise sentence | Oct 02 09:02 |
| schestowitz | explain it's you who starrted it | Oct 02 09:02 |
| schestowitz | I started typing it up | Oct 02 09:02 |
| schestowitz | maybe reddit is useless (or the sub) | Oct 02 09:03 |
| schestowitz | so we can use techrights now to keep it talked about | Oct 02 09:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: leave ir with me | Oct 02 09:04 |
| schestowitz | I'll write an intro | Oct 02 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, you're probably better at that than I am. | Oct 02 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | Reddit punishes posts that aren't boring. | Oct 02 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | Cats and stuff. | Oct 02 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Microsoft has their own subreddits. | Oct 02 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | janemsft is a mod in the Windows 10 subreddit. | Oct 02 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | errr, jenmsft | Oct 02 09:07 |
| schestowitz | ok, hang on | Oct 02 09:09 |
| schestowitz | almost there | Oct 02 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/55as6r/is_my_feedback_actually_used/ | Oct 02 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is my feedback actually used? : windowsphone | Oct 02 09:09 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 02 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | New Windows 10 releases fix one thing and break something else (sometimes even the update itself won't install). | Oct 02 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | It feels like Microsoft is shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. | Oct 02 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/81659/microsoft-delivers-yet-another-broken-windows-10-update | Oct 02 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Delivers Yet Another Broken Windows 10 Update - Thurrott.com | Oct 02 09:13 | |
| DaemonFC | "Microsoft is pushing the idea that you should always patch your machine on the day the update is released as they often release security patches that fix vulnerabilities. But, until the company can get a handle on their quality control issues, such as the Anniversary update breaking millions of webcams, it feels like every time you run Windows update you are rolling the dice." | Oct 02 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | Oh good. Now you don't have to tape over the webcam if you're a high school student so your pervy principle won't use the RAT the school installed to your laptop to watch you naked in your bedroom. (Yeah, that actually happened a while ago.) | Oct 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: fair to say it started in techrights irc? | Oct 02 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Oct 02 09:18 |
| schestowitz | ok, wait | Oct 02 09:20 |
| schestowitz | 5 mins | Oct 02 09:20 |
| schestowitz | from now on, write your rants in techrights too | Oct 02 09:20 |
| schestowitz | the corporate media is 'done' with it | Oct 02 09:20 |
| schestowitz | even reddit | Oct 02 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The way many people respond in Reddit is odd. | Oct 02 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | Why would people be falling over themselves in defense of Microsoft there? | Oct 02 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft hasn't done any favors for people who want to use Linux on their PC. uEFI has brought about literally thousands of problems all by itself even if the OEM isn't trying to lock Linux out. | Oct 02 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | PCs are a lot more like Macs now. Bad firmware and all. | Oct 02 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | I was excited for a while because I heard that uEFI would have an open source implementation. | Oct 02 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | Then they based it on the open source implementation and signed it so only they could update it. | Oct 02 09:26 |
| cubexyz | ok, renewed cubeman.tk for another year... it's still free | Oct 02 09:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/ | Oct 02 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights | Oct 02 09:30 | |
| schestowitz | forget about reddit for now | Oct 02 09:30 |
| schestowitz | the effort taken to prevent burial is huge | Oct 02 09:30 |
| schestowitz | so use your own platforms | Oct 02 09:30 |
| schestowitz | this kind of censorship in digg is why we needed boycottnovell | Oct 02 09:30 |
| schestowitz | at some stage people are not willing to let their platform be 'hijacked' by causes | Oct 02 09:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not seen any coverage of it since Friday | Oct 02 09:31 |
| schestowitz | when I gave you a link about it | Oct 02 09:31 |
| schestowitz | and thsi coverage repeated the face-saving lie | Oct 02 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I don't think that people are buying it. | Oct 02 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | Even the people that try to make excuses for it probably wouldn't buy one themselves if they wanted to run Linux. | Oct 02 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782486880113795072 | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SUSE: Mesa, Kernel, GNOME, KDE apps update in Tumbleweed | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rmrW42Ipej (news.opensuse.org) | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 09:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE News | Oct 02 09:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782498196345982976 | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org) | Oct 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 09:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yogatailor favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...' | Oct 02 09:34 | |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't have any problem getting a used Lenovo X60, T60 or X200 with libreboot | Oct 02 09:37 |
| cubexyz | otherwise no lenovo for me | Oct 02 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, The hardware in this laptop is pretty decent. Windows 10 isn't. | Oct 02 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | One thing that really bugs me is that a lot of Windows apps are not meant to be used on HiDPI displays, so you get little butons and stuff and can't really use the app. | Oct 02 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | Peazip is like that. | Oct 02 09:39 |
| cubexyz | for GM45 chipsets installing libreboot means the Intel management engine is gone | Oct 02 09:40 |
| cubexyz | that's a big deal for me | Oct 02 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | It can bring up the processor without IME? | Oct 02 09:40 |
| cubexyz | yes, on certain models | Oct 02 09:41 |
| cubexyz | of course, some hardware just doesn't have management engine at all | Oct 02 09:43 |
| cubexyz | also getting rid of that code gives you more room for other stuff for coreboot | Oct 02 09:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pkrumins/status/782489296414601216 | Oct 02 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pkrumins: @schestowitz Tux celebrating Wine release. https://t.co/GbyXEM6oAj | Oct 02 09:45 | |
| cubexyz | there's a 5 megabits of ME code | Oct 02 09:46 |
| cubexyz | there's also a smaller version which is 3 megabits | Oct 02 09:46 |
| cubexyz | coreboot people now refer to Intel ME has "Panic level 9000+" | Oct 02 09:47 |
| cubexyz | s/has/as/ | Oct 02 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 | Oct 02 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo Community | Oct 02 09:50 | |
| cubexyz | here's a chart of the current ME situation: | Oct 02 09:50 |
| cubexyz | https://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_Engine | Oct 02 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Intel Management Engine - coreboot | Oct 02 09:50 | |
| cubexyz | Intel ME is great for the NSA, bad for everyone else | Oct 02 09:52 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 02 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel Inside... | Oct 02 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Intelligence | Oct 02 09:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoft | Oct 02 09:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "From a MS official site: " the Microsoft MVP Award is our way of saying Thanks!"" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfing | Oct 02 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - Techrights | Oct 02 09:58 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: keep showing me links like that | Oct 02 10:00 |
| schestowitz | I'll circulate best I can... | Oct 02 10:00 |
| cubexyz | what you want for starters is a laptop with a socketed DIP or PLCC chip | Oct 02 10:00 |
| cubexyz | you'll need a special tool for removing PLCC chips | Oct 02 10:01 |
| cubexyz | but you'll be save from bricking your laptop | Oct 02 10:02 |
| cubexyz | X200, X60, T60 etc merely has the _potential_ to be free of Intel ME | Oct 02 10:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/782505711720734720 | Oct 02 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7 | Oct 02 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7 | Oct 02 10:03 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/td-p/3439442 | Oct 02 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo Community | Oct 02 10:04 | |
| cubexyz | Gigabyte GA-6BXC has a socketed DIP chip for BIOS | Oct 02 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782501624556220416 | Oct 02 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in | Oct 02 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems | Oct 02 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org) | Oct 02 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights | Oct 02 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507065168236544 | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sabayon Bizarre But Useful https://t.co/YSwkTHTmk0 | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (freedompenguin.com) | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Sabayon Bizarre But Useful - Freedom Penguin | Oct 02 10:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507698994704384 | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "special Korean Edition of neon's Developer Edition | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tracking the stable branch of KDE's code repositories." | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HWLl66OYaq (blogs.kde.org) | Oct 02 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE neon Korean Developer Edition (... and future CJK Edition?) | blogs.kde.org | Oct 02 10:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54j74w/can_someone_recommend_me_penetration_testing/ | Oct 02 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Can someone recommend me Penetration testing linux distros for slow Pc's? : linux | Oct 02 10:15 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I saw you in "Not the Lenovo Yoga!" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54uahw/linux_laptop_suggestions/ | Oct 02 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux laptop suggestions? : linux | Oct 02 10:27 | |
| schestowitz | I was trying to find whether someone mentioned Lenovo | Oct 02 10:27 |
| schestowitz | "I bought a lenovo ideapad y700 earlier this year. It is a beautiful machine and runs Linux Mint perfectly. Excellent for gaming." | Oct 02 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It seems it's hit or miss. Probably since the MS deal is recent. | Oct 02 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | The first 900 didn't block Linux. | Oct 02 10:28 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soj2/should_we_make_an_effort_to_make_hardware_stop/ | Oct 02 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should we make an effort to make hardware stop claiming to be "Linux Supported!" if it stopped working after a kernel released years ago? : linux | Oct 02 10:33 | |
| schestowitz | did you see their MS patent deal?\ | Oct 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | OEM deal? | Oct 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | and patent settlement? | Oct 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Maybe only for Android, but it's a secret deal, so who knows... | Oct 02 10:33 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it in the summer | Oct 02 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782508631782817792 | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Say not Goodbye, say #Sayonara https://t.co/3IFuZeysoV | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.ocsmag.com) | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Say not Goodbye, say Sayonara | OCS-Mag | Oct 02 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782513193369346048 | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and How | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | We’re Fixing it https://t.co/ghIqiU7BE9 (blogs.s-osg.org) | Oct 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.s-osg.org/problem-linux-kernel-documentation-fixing/ ) | Oct 02 10:37 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "Whatever you do stay away from the Thinkpad X230, worst trackpad I've ever used." https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54jyuc/decent_linux_laptop_for_2016/ #lenovo ruins #ibm business | Oct 02 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Decent Linux Laptop for 2016? : linux | Oct 02 10:38 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 02 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | Stay away from recent Lenovo Yogas. They don't let you install Linux at all. So unless wasting your money on a fast SSD that Linux can't even see and resorting to running it off a SD card or thumb drive is something you want to do, stay away from Lenovo. Lenovo no = Not good for Linux. If anything the problem will get worse. | Oct 02 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | err, meant to say Lenovo = not good for Linux | Oct 02 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | changed that | Oct 02 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | We should make sure to emphasize that so that people think Lenovo and then "I probably can't run Linux on that.". | Oct 02 10:42 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/556rkk/is_it_safe_to_install_gnome_320_on_ubuntu_16041/ | Oct 02 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is it safe to install GNOME 3.20 on Ubuntu 16.04.1 using ppa? : linux | Oct 02 10:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54p0gg/the_us_presidential_candidates_on_technology/ | Oct 02 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The U.S. presidential candidates on technology, privacy issues [including use of open source software in government] : linux | Oct 02 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | "Can someone find that video of Hillary Clinton tripping all over herself to figure out what Firefox and open source software were when she was SoS and a federal employee asked her why they had to use Internet Explorer?" | Oct 02 10:51 |
| schestowitz | LOL at " tripping all over herself" | Oct 02 10:52 |
| schestowitz | http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/ | Oct 02 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ijr.com | I Protected Hillary Clinton In The Secret Service - Here's Why Her 'Fainting' Video Really Scares Me | Oct 02 10:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vfux/what_do_you_think_about_the_business_model_of/ | Oct 02 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What do you think about the business model of Parted Magic? : linux | Oct 02 10:59 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, too soon? | Oct 02 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z4UEr2ekOY | Oct 02 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hillary Clinton thinks saving money is complicated - YouTube | Oct 02 11:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @maelpoke favourited 'The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and How...' | Oct 02 11:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @chakrasbydidi favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...' | Oct 02 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vdp8/lenovo_courts_devs_with_moto_z_source_code_release/ | Oct 02 11:03 |
| schestowitz | "I see the development kit is apparently released and the kernel sources is apparently released. Is the bootloader locked? Does this mean that I am able to actually compile the kernel myself and install it on the phone? Am I able to compile Android myself as well? What restrictions are there?" | Oct 02 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Courts Devs With Moto Z Source Code Release : linux | Oct 02 11:04 | |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 2 11:07:08 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Oct 02 11:07 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Oct 02 11:07 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 02 11:07 | |
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| schestowitz | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12578204 | Oct 02 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | So while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in ge... | Hacker News | Oct 02 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | So while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in general. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Context: I'm one of the original leads on LXQt, and I initiated the merge of Razor-qt and LXDE-Qt into LXQt. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I've been using LXQt as my main desktop for several years now. I've kept up with what other desktops have been doing. I've been especially impressed by the efforts of the GNOME team, and especially disappointed with the clusterfuck KDE has become... but those are just details. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I feel like the Linux desktop is dead, and one of the worst examples of open source software right now. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Almost nobody actually collaborates on anything. Everybody wants to do their own thing and it leads to developer fragmentation. Every project is undermanned. LXQt is especially undermanned right now. The Cinnamon guys, last I heard, want to switch to Qt but don't have the developers to do it and would end up being a LXQt clone. | Oct 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 11:12 |
| cubexyz | come on, linux is definitely not dead | Oct 02 11:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/782525961799598080 | Oct 02 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7 | Oct 02 11:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7 | Oct 02 11:25 | |
| schestowitz | site down? https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtml | Oct 02 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtml ) | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782521042388516865 | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Welcome to the 36th installation of This Week in Solus." | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GdQBkAD01N (solus-project.com) | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #36 | Solus | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782523195349954561 | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What’s New in Elementary OS 0.4 Loki | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6LlMIFEKOT (linuxscoop.com) | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | What's New in Elementary OS 0.4 Loki - Linux Scoop | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782524963865653248 | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why kernel development still uses email | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JRKkuuxSze (lwn.net) | Oct 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why kernel development still uses email [LWN.net] | Oct 02 11:28 | |
| cubexyz | oh man that's brutal... they tried to OCR fraktur | Oct 02 11:31 |
| cubexyz | just buy the english translation :-P | Oct 02 11:32 |
| schestowitz | https://camo.githubusercontent.com/b07bd2390cdd348e6404e46a97e3f35d2be5c25e/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f7444314f4251332e706e67 | Oct 02 11:46 |
| schestowitz | http://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-signature-pc-program-allegedly-blocks-installation-of-linux-or-does-it | Oct 02 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? | HotHardware | Oct 02 11:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54e5w1/microsoft_signature_pc_program_allegedly_blocks/ | Oct 02 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? : linux | Oct 02 11:48 | |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg | Oct 02 12:12 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @jiem1978 favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...' | Oct 02 12:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782528689179426816 | Oct 02 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "competing projects create and spread FUD about Linux | Oct 02 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mint in an effort to promote their own distribution." | Oct 02 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MJXNiXnERO (segfault.linuxmint.com) | Oct 02 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segfault.linuxmint.com | Addressing FUD ← Segfault | Oct 02 12:13 | |
| cubexyz | oh dear... | Oct 02 12:21 |
| cubexyz | https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/10/01/2155209/multiple-linux-distributions-affected-by-crippling-bug-in-systemd | Oct 02 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Multiple Linux Distributions Affected By Crippling Bug In Systemd - Slashdot | Oct 02 12:21 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpg | Oct 02 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543065571393537 | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives https://t.co/WXp7PRgY2C | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543067450441730 | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/iO4C5DPSJG | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543069212139520 | Oct 02 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uzwoydirQw | Oct 02 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543071225389056 | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/8dCqMvb47I | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543072433352704 | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/wIkEXy5q11 | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 02 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543132567146496 | Oct 02 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Oct 02 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016: | Oct 02 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXE | Oct 02 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 12:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Techrights | Oct 02 12:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916536 | Oct 02 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The media no longer seems to be interested in us showing it that #lenovo lied. I guess they see no business model/gain in it.Like #superfish | Oct 02 12:41 | |
| cubexyz | not to often I see Plan 9 advocacy | Oct 02 12:41 |
| cubexyz | honestly though it's simpler just to use slack | Oct 02 12:53 |
| cubexyz | If I'm doing the programming you can be sure I'm going to test on openbsd, slackware, FC1, and maybe Fedora 14 | Oct 02 12:59 |
| cubexyz | I stopped using Fedora after version 14 | Oct 02 12:59 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/mNxDJU5 | Oct 02 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This site login - Imgur | Oct 02 14:09 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's an interesting way of exploit protection. | Oct 02 14:10 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 14:11 |
| XRevan86 | "You're using eval? You should think of security: forbid quotation mark usage." | Oct 02 14:11 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/MSF89TT.gifv | Oct 02 14:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Oct 02 14:32 | |
| cubexyz | ummm | Oct 02 14:37 |
| cubexyz | yeah the word shell definitely could be part of an email address | Oct 02 14:38 |
| cubexyz | lol at the tetris pic | Oct 02 14:40 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/jJ80AgJ.jpg | Oct 02 15:11 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aE42F1B.png | Oct 02 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So was faith of most of Russians. But then Yeltsin fixed it by making capitalism worse than Gorbachov's reforms. | Oct 02 15:26 |
| MinceR | that is, in russia | Oct 02 15:28 |
| MinceR | he couldn't make it worse anywhere else | Oct 02 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | I think Yeltsin is the reason why Russian population in general doesn't like regime changes. | Oct 02 15:29 |
| MinceR | but putler will | Oct 02 15:29 |
| XRevan86 | They know on their skin it can get much worse. | Oct 02 15:29 |
| XRevan86 | Because even Gorbachov wasn't that bad as what regime change delivered. | Oct 02 15:30 |
| XRevan86 | > he couldn't make it worse anywhere else | Oct 02 15:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's a weird thought. | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | why would it be? | Oct 02 15:33 |
| XRevan86 | It's very hard to make worse something that was already near bottom. | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | global nuclear winter will make capitalism worse | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | as in, we all starve to death | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | plants die without light | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | anything that eats plants dies without food | Oct 02 15:33 |
| XRevan86 | People genuinely thought any change could go only up because below was only the floor. | Oct 02 15:33 |
| MinceR | they'll find out that it can indeed get worse | Oct 02 15:34 |
| MinceR | and maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worse | Oct 02 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I mean, realisticly worse. | Oct 02 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | not nuclear worse | Oct 02 15:34 |
| MinceR | that's quite realistic | Oct 02 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | > and maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worse | Oct 02 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | Humans are jerks. | Oct 02 15:35 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | Don't blame the 1%, blame the 100%. | Oct 02 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | Damn, I hope that won't catch on. | Oct 02 15:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 15:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/09/30/mads-caption-contest-winner | Oct 02 15:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | MAD’s Caption Contest Winner! | Mad Magazine | Oct 02 15:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782545040946192384 | Oct 02 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Oct 02 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016: | Oct 02 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXE | Oct 02 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | Techrights | Oct 02 15:48 | |
| MinceR | http://wandpcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/WandP49site.png | Oct 02 15:51 |
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| cubexyz | oh boy, someone at google books got CPE Bach and Johann Sebastian Bach mixed up | Oct 02 16:31 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 16:32 |
| cubexyz | rather disappointing | Oct 02 16:32 |
| cubexyz | Carl was the 2nd son of Johann Sebastian in case anyone was wondering | Oct 02 16:38 |
| cubexyz | 1714 to 1788 | Oct 02 16:39 |
| MinceR | http://www.sciencealert.com/80-of-the-data-in-chinese-clinical-trial-is-fabricated | Oct 02 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-80% of data in Chinese clinical trials have been fabricated - ScienceAlert | Oct 02 16:40 | |
| cubexyz | I was a bit taken aback over the price of the Novena | Oct 02 16:42 |
| cubexyz | $500 for just the motherboard | Oct 02 16:42 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Z1h6NjN | Oct 02 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Great sorting job Outlook for Mac - very useful - Imgur | Oct 02 16:42 | |
| MinceR | too bad the novena case is not conducive for use in lap | Oct 02 16:42 |
| MinceR | the same issue exists with most "2 in 1"s | Oct 02 16:43 |
| cubexyz | what's the problem with it? | Oct 02 16:43 |
| cubexyz | I suppose you mean the monitor being turned around the other way? | Oct 02 16:43 |
| MinceR | there's no place where you can put the keyboard that is connected to the display so you can hold the whole thing by holding on to the keyboard/wristpad | Oct 02 16:43 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 02 16:44 |
| MinceR | so either the computer or the keyboard will fall off your lap | Oct 02 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Juve translation is half done. | Oct 02 16:44 |
| schestowitz | to be posted in techrights soon, re EPO lies | Oct 02 16:44 |
| cubexyz | I can't think of anything decent laptop-wise other than chromebooks | Oct 02 16:45 |
| cubexyz | I guess X200 with libreboot would be OK | Oct 02 16:46 |
| MinceR | thinkpads still seem to be fine, aside from the usual issues like intel ME and m$ tax | Oct 02 16:46 |
| cubexyz | well you'd most likely be looking at a used one for X200 | Oct 02 16:47 |
| MinceR | i mostly looked at the x260 | Oct 02 16:48 |
| MinceR | comes with an intel gpu that's more powerful than any gpu i ever had | Oct 02 16:48 |
| MinceR | and finally they made them black again | Oct 02 16:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL...' | Oct 02 16:49 | |
| cubexyz | the old R30's weren't very repairable :-/ | Oct 02 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782607511815847936 | Oct 02 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW | Oct 02 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 16:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 16:50 | |
| MinceR | well, the R series was the old cheapness-oriented series, wasn't it? | Oct 02 16:50 |
| cubexyz | could be | Oct 02 16:50 |
| cubexyz | that x260 is going to generate a lot of heat | Oct 02 16:51 |
| MinceR | i didn't have issues with cooling before, except when there was accumulated dust in my x220it | Oct 02 16:52 |
| cubexyz | but it looks pretty decent otherwise... if you ignore the win10 preloaded | Oct 02 16:52 |
| MinceR | i cleaned it out and the issue went away | Oct 02 16:52 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Oct 02 16:52 |
| MinceR | according to https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X260 it still supports legacy boot | Oct 02 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.freebsd.org | Laptops/Thinkpad_X260 - FreeBSD Wiki | Oct 02 16:52 | |
| cubexyz | that's a big plus | Oct 02 16:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 16:53 |
| MinceR | as far as i'm concerned, a requirement :> | Oct 02 16:53 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144 | Oct 02 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/ | Oct 02 16:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Really. I was thinking of getting a Lenovo machine. Well I better stay with Dell, they make great machines." | Oct 02 16:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW' | Oct 02 16:54 | |
| cubexyz | I can report the HP chromebook 14 with Tegra K1 doesn't get hot at all | Oct 02 16:54 |
| MinceR | lol, dHell | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Acer and ASUS are OK also, maybe HP | Oct 02 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights | Oct 02 16:54 | |
| cubexyz | and it's fanless... had it in my lap for hours | Oct 02 16:54 |
| MinceR | schestowitz had complaints about an hp chromebook | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139 | Oct 02 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpg | Oct 02 16:54 | |
| MinceR | (the keyboard, specifically) | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | we returned it | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | swapped for Acer | Oct 02 16:54 |
| cubexyz | it's tolerable :) | Oct 02 16:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: ^ your image ago | Oct 02 16:55 |
| schestowitz | *above | Oct 02 16:55 |
| cubexyz | not the greatest, I admit | Oct 02 16:55 |
| MinceR | too bad hp's website is a total pain in the ass to use | Oct 02 16:55 |
| schestowitz | "Ah, Okay." | Oct 02 16:55 |
| schestowitz | "Why are people complaining about the change?" | Oct 02 16:55 |
| schestowitz | "http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemd" | Oct 02 16:55 |
| MinceR | so i have no idea what i'd buy if i were to buy hp | Oct 02 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for you | Oct 02 16:55 | |
| cubexyz | I don't even really like talking to HP | Oct 02 16:55 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure they don't enjoy talking to me much either | Oct 02 16:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 16:55 |
| cubexyz | but I still use two of their computers and they're not bad | Oct 02 16:56 |
| MinceR | it's nice to have more data points | Oct 02 16:57 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, I'll have to look at the acer with Tegra K1 | Oct 02 16:58 |
| cubexyz | almost everything comes with win10 | Oct 02 17:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RichardBaeck/status/782612592657330178 | Oct 02 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardBaeck: RT @schestowitz #Bees added to US endangered species list for the first time https://t.co/kXAWhF9EXR it's starting | Oct 02 17:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://gnusocial.de/url/3144843 ) | Oct 02 17:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AnarchistDalek/status/782613687257313280 | Oct 02 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnarchistDalek: 🤔 https://t.co/QyvXXFnMUi | Oct 02 17:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Read this: https://t.co/OEyumMGvUQ And then this: https://t.co/FEGKzKqOOB Some people pretend better https://t.co/dZAc866OIe | Oct 02 17:13 | |
| cubexyz | lenovo has got 325 thumbs down so far :) | Oct 02 17:39 |
| schestowitz | where? | Oct 02 17:45 |
| cubexyz | just the pic being downloaded 325 times | Oct 02 17:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/god-the-action-figure.jpg | Oct 02 17:46 |
| cubexyz | with AK-47? | Oct 02 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Looks like a jedi | Oct 02 17:47 |
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| XRevan86 | > with kalashnikov AK-47 | Oct 02 17:49 |
| XRevan86 | Tautology. | Oct 02 17:49 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/O5aX0rC | Oct 02 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discard submission? Cancel uploads? I don't know what to do, Imgur... - Imgur | Oct 02 18:16 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7912310 | Oct 02 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lenovo is lying about #microsoft #linux and now about #layoffs http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.htm just as it lied about #superfish repeatedly | Oct 02 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | "So they’ve been telling lies by making out it was a Linux Kernel problem." | Oct 02 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft At Fault? : Tech : Gamenguide | Oct 02 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139 | Oct 02 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpg | Oct 02 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | "Although I don’t use Debian, I did not understand why they made this move considering their philosophy." | Oct 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "Quiero llorar." | Oct 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "What? The choice of systemd over the previous system (what was the name of the previus system)??" | Oct 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "Prior to systemD was sysVInit." | Oct 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "Ah, Okay." | Oct 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | "Why are people complaining about the change?" | Oct 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemd | Oct 02 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for you [ http://ur1.ca/ptxau ] | Oct 02 19:00 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8v | Oct 02 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google wasn't much help with physics homework - Imgur | Oct 02 19:03 | |
| MinceR | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd | Oct 02 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Arguments against systemd - Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jwtd5 ] | Oct 02 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916622 | Oct 02 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoft | Oct 02 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz | He’s on the wrong side. Generous or not. | Oct 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe there were generous Nazis too…but still it’s on the wrong side. | Oct 02 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo Community | Oct 02 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft MVPs compared to Nazis... :/ :-S | Oct 02 19:07 |
| MinceR | nazis were pretty evil | Oct 02 19:09 |
| MinceR | still are | Oct 02 19:09 |
| cubexyz | hopefully we can guilt Lenovo into fixing their bios | Oct 02 19:10 |
| MinceR | and their customer service | Oct 02 19:13 |
| MinceR | and their attitude | Oct 02 19:13 |
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| cubexyz | helping people use windows isn't really helping them | Oct 02 19:33 |
| cubexyz | each generation will get more and more dependent on Microsoft and less and less able to do things for themselves | Oct 02 19:34 |
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| cubexyz | I remember one guy putting a new version of windows on their computer... | Oct 02 19:36 |
| cubexyz | he couldn't use his scanner or his printer afterwards | Oct 02 19:36 |
| cubexyz | he went out and bought a new printer and new scanner... duh! | Oct 02 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | [19:03] <MinceR> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8v | Oct 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz | wrong answer. | Oct 02 19:45 |
| schestowitz | maybe 'ai' bs failure | Oct 02 19:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 02 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/782609646133518336 | Oct 02 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW | Oct 02 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 19:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 19:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @SwellnessYoga http://twitter.com/SwellnessYoga/status/782611963637620740 | Oct 02 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest SWELLNESS YOGA! https://t.co/pIYygKwuxT | Oct 02 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @nomondeb73 @tw57704087 @tuxmachines | Oct 02 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #yoga #fitness | Oct 02 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | SWELLNESS YOGA | Oct 02 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 19:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/782652057161461760 | Oct 02 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @AntiSoftwarePat @zoobab @schestowitz Have you guys seen Australia's Productivity Commission's IP report? Slams Software Patents | Oct 02 19:46 | |
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| MinceR | https://65.media.tumblr.com/363171b17c048cb26acbb9c9ea9f0175/tumblr_odk9o0nqMN1s02vreo1_250.gif | Oct 02 20:29 |
| cubexyz | the local computer store is selling Gigabyte 5010 no OS computers | Oct 02 20:38 |
| cubexyz | spam alert for tuxmachines | Oct 02 20:58 |
| cubexyz | football streaming links | Oct 02 20:58 |
| cubexyz | American Football I think :) | Oct 02 20:59 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHA | Oct 02 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Banach–Tarski Paradox - YouTube | Oct 02 21:18 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/50V1VAB.jpg | Oct 02 21:28 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They just approved a couple of posts to the ISK2 topic. | Oct 02 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | I know they're blocking some because one of my posts didn't appear and I've heard from someone else that it took 3 days before theirs did. | Oct 02 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6 | Oct 02 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6 ) | Oct 02 21:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, the 900S is worse. You can't even dump the BIOS at all according to one person on this forum. | Oct 02 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that annoying "Get Windows 10" app was hidden in a critical security update to Internet Explorer. | Oct 02 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Interesting. | Oct 02 21:45 |
| MinceR | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/151093453030/gdb | Oct 02 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | gdb - DevOps Reactions | Oct 02 22:07 | |
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| brendyn | Is this legit, https://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.html ? | Oct 02 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkerer [ http://ur1.ca/ptyq6 ] | Oct 02 22:22 | |
| MinceR | dunno, i pretty much reflexively close that page | Oct 02 22:24 |
| MinceR | a clean fork would be welcome | Oct 02 22:26 |
| MinceR | i guess it will be inevitable anyway if noscript updates to fit the chrome-ish API in the newer, shittier failfox | Oct 02 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Matthew Garrett is retweeting Donald Trump. | Oct 02 22:42 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 02 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Garrett is British. They seem to have no shortage of Trump clones over there. | Oct 02 22:42 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 22:42 |
| MinceR | re the second sentence | Oct 02 22:42 |
| MinceR | dunno about the first | Oct 02 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson.... | Oct 02 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | At least Garrett can stay over there and screw his own country. | Oct 02 22:43 |
| MinceR | looks like we're all screwed | Oct 02 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, most "Western Democracies" are showing that they don't deserve democracy much more than the Islamic Republics do. :P | Oct 02 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Truly sad. I mean, you'd expect what happens when you give a bunch of Muslims a democracy... | Oct 02 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | We get some of the ones that are trying to flee what the others are doing to them. | Oct 02 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | And we get some of the ones that are hardliners too. They come over here and tell us how much they hate us. | Oct 02 22:45 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 02 22:46 |
| MinceR | and the savages in the west are coming out of the woodwork | Oct 02 22:46 |
| MinceR | for brexit, Golden Dawnald, and for other calls | Oct 02 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's scary how close Trump is in the polls. | Oct 02 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that he *could* win. The fact that someone like him could come back in 4-8 years and be that close even if he doesn't. | Oct 02 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing that we can really hope for is that demographic shift happens. Clinton gets in and we get business as usual again while the people who like Trump fade a little bit more. (They're dying off but they're dangerous because they know they're fading and so nearly all of them are going to vote.) | Oct 02 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | That's what we have going on. He's whipping the vote. | Oct 02 22:50 |
| MinceR | maybe we'll find a way to only kill off humans, leaving the rest of the biosphere intact | Oct 02 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, the other side is lukewarm about Hillary so even though we theoretically outnumber Trump's supporters, the turnout will be lower. | Oct 02 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | If it wasn't for Republican voters being older and more of them dying off then Trump would probably win this year. | Oct 02 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | If we had an exact repeat of the 2012 election (turnout, demographics, etc.) Obama would have a net total of about 453,000 more votes. | Oct 02 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Clinton I mean. | Oct 02 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | But she's not making people feel good about voting for her. Her entire campaign is "I'm not Trump.". | Oct 02 22:53 |
| MinceR | hm, NotTrump sounds pretty good | Oct 02 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Would the extra die off on the Republican side help by itself? | Oct 02 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Depends on where they die. | Oct 02 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | The Electoral College means that if most of them die in, say, Texas, that doesn't really help Clinton. | Oct 02 22:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/1sDkHgZ | Oct 02 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-420 install it - Imgur | Oct 02 22:55 | |
| DaemonFC | If more of them die in states like Ohio or North Carolina, it could tip the balance. | Oct 02 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782652807757258752 | Oct 02 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/AWZcX14xhR | Oct 02 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 22:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 02 22:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782701648288165888 | Oct 02 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships | Oct 02 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 https://t.co/e6FdwTYgTy | Oct 02 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 23:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 | Tux Machines | Oct 02 23:00 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/NG3VX | Oct 02 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- TV thinks Will Smith is Japanese? ウィル・スミス - Album on Imgur | Oct 02 23:19 | |
| DaemonFC | I just read Matthew Garrett's response to the Lenovo thing in full. | Oct 02 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | "The number of people who buy these laptops to run anything but Windows is miniscule[...]" So why increase your support costs? | Oct 02 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm. Seems to me that about 2% would eventually install Linux (conservative estimate). If they sell for $1300-$1,500 apiece and people know not to buy them now, that means that for every 1,000 laptops that they would have sold, they now sell 20 fewer units, and those sales go to a competitor. | Oct 02 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | If they sell a million laptops, then they lose 20,000 sales to a competitor. | Oct 02 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | It might not sound like much, but it is. PC margins are thin because there are a lot of PC OEMs that make computers that are similar and "good enough". Chances are their profit margin is only 3-5%, maybe. | Oct 02 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | I hear that's the norm in PC sales, and that's for units with crapware, but I'm sure that Lenovo is either getting rebates for participating in Signature or just passed along the cost of not bundling the crapware to me. | Oct 02 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | Regardless, PC sales have been in decline for years. | Oct 02 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo suffered a 4.2% year over year decline in Q4 2015 vs Q4 2014. | Oct 02 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Do they really want to go back and say they declined more this quarter? Looks that way. | Oct 02 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | They could have released a BIOS patch for Linux users immediately, but they chose to give their customers the middle finger and ride this thing into the ground instead. | Oct 02 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure Dell or HP will appreciate the new customers. | Oct 02 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I would have bought an HP Spectre or a Dell XPS had I known. | Oct 02 23:32 |
| MinceR | dHell doesn't appreciate customers, only their money | Oct 02 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They responded by re-enabling the AHCI option instead of lying to their customers. | Oct 02 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | That's better than what Lenovo did. | Oct 02 23:34 |
| cubexyz | it is | Oct 02 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like every time I buy a computer, an OEM has done something to fuck up Linux. | Oct 02 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Usually something stupid. Usually something I've never seen them do before. | Oct 02 23:35 |
| MinceR | they responded to me by claiming the keyboard is not under warranty, and by claiming they have no idea when they'll have replacement parts | Oct 02 23:35 |
| MinceR | also by replacing the faulty GPU with another faulty GPU | Oct 02 23:35 |
| MinceR | so fuck dHell | Oct 02 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | So a pattern emerges. And if you approach it as an isolated incident, people say "It was just an innocent mistake.". | Oct 02 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | But if they all do it nearly every time they release something, I believe there are....other resons. | Oct 02 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Shame on Matthew Garrett for excusing this. He's made more blog posts than I can count on how OEMs try to detect Linux and then hand it a shitty configuration. | Oct 02 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | He even admitted in one of them that they detect Linux by which version of ACPI it says it supports and then hand it off to the kernel without setting up the audio chipset or telling it there are the wrong number of function keys. | Oct 02 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | So he had to patch it to say the same thing Windows returns (2 instead of 5) so that the firmware wouldn't fuck up the configuration before handing off to Linux. | Oct 02 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | He doesn't see a problem with that? | Oct 02 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | Or if he does he blames the vendor. | Oct 02 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/34542.html | Oct 02 23:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Vendors continue to break things | Oct 02 23:40 | |
| DaemonFC | There's the post if anyone is interested. | Oct 02 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782701649684856832 | Oct 02 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with | Oct 02 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Various Improvements https://t.co/3jpeQ7mFiu | Oct 02 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 02 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 02 23:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with Various Improvements | Tux Machines | Oct 02 23:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships...' | Oct 02 23:52 | |
| cubexyz | it's all horse-bleep | Oct 03 00:10 |
| cubexyz | there's secret stuff in the firmware and you can dance around that all day but in the end you don't know what's going on | Oct 03 00:11 |
| cubexyz | and the newer hardware is much harder to understand than the older stuff | Oct 03 00:12 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/intel-me-secrets.pdf | Oct 03 00:16 |
| cubexyz | intel's running ThreadX in there | Oct 03 00:23 |
| cubexyz | it can lock out memory from the host CPU | Oct 03 00:25 |
| cubexyz | maybe I can visually inspect the board and know if it's got vpro or not | Oct 03 00:30 |
| cubexyz | if it's baked into the CPU (which I suspect it is) then I need a list of CPUs to avoid | Oct 03 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Wikipedia says it's in the motherboard, but I suspect that it will be in the CPU eventually if it isn't already. | Oct 03 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | They've been moving things away from the motherboard and into the CPU. Including the integrated graphics. It's why motherboards are so cheap now. | Oct 03 00:34 |
| cubexyz | Intel® DH82B85 PCH, no vPro but still has ME | Oct 03 00:36 |
| cubexyz | and they are already up to ME 9.0 | Oct 03 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware. | Oct 03 00:39 |
| cubexyz | there's something called the MEBx | Oct 03 00:39 |
| cubexyz | the Management Engine BIOS eXtension | Oct 03 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Some Intel CPUs seem to be designed to lock up mysteriously after half an hour if the Management Engine isn't working for some reason. | Oct 03 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Then you have to make sure the firmware loads or your PC freezes up. | Oct 03 00:40 |
| MinceR | what do chromebooks do about this? | Oct 03 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | Probably load the ME, MinceR | Oct 03 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | But some Chromebooks are ditching Intel. | Oct 03 00:41 |
| MinceR | afaik they don't load it | Oct 03 00:42 |
| cubexyz | you can build your own custom BIOS on chromebooks | Oct 03 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | The Acers seem to be going with ARM now. | Oct 03 00:42 |
| MinceR | 03 013929 < DaemonFC> cubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware. | Oct 03 00:42 |
| MinceR | the whole point of "intel boot guard" was to lock alternative firmware (like coreboot and libreboot) out of the market | Oct 03 00:42 |
| MinceR | it was a very microsoftian move | Oct 03 00:42 |
| cubexyz | you can hack on the chromebooks, so I'm not worried about those | Oct 03 00:42 |
| cubexyz | I have all that code | Oct 03 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Eventually it will detect BIOS mods that you flashed in with an external flasher and refuse to boot. | Oct 03 00:43 |
| cubexyz | if there's anything nasty in there I'll know about it | Oct 03 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think they're there yet because replacement BIOSes seem to work on the Yoga 900 ISK2 with Skylake. | Oct 03 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | But it won't let you flash it in without aa flasher unless there's a signature from Insyde or Lenovo on the ROM. | Oct 03 00:44 |
| cubexyz | X200 with libreboot is pretty safe | Oct 03 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't seem to use checksum verification because the modded ROM that the guy on Lenovo Forums used wouldn't have matched the ROM that he pulled. | Oct 03 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing the people on the bios-mods forum seem to have done is remove code hiding some BIOS menus that are present but hidden by Lenovo. | Oct 03 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | "bownairo" said he'd be looking into a way to fool the system into letting you flash without an external flasher. | Oct 03 00:46 |
| MinceR | it seems to me that if IT is to survive at all, the free software/hardware community will have to take the whole stack in our own hands | Oct 03 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | If that happens, users can fix their system themselves without a patch from Lenovo. | Oct 03 00:46 |
| MinceR | we'll have to figure out how to make cpus and computers from scratch | Oct 03 00:46 |
| cubexyz | well, the ultimate hack would be your own FPGA | Oct 03 00:46 |
| MinceR | intel and all the others will only try to shit on everything we do | Oct 03 00:46 |
| MinceR | we'll also need free fpga tools | Oct 03 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Richard Stallman's solution is probably the easiest. | Oct 03 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Buy a laptop from China that uses an ARM platform and was made to run Linux. | Oct 03 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | If there was some way to set up a reliable supply chain for those, I'm sure that someone could have a somewhat profitable business selling them to people who want to get away from the Wintel PC and all of the horrible things it does to Linux, totally by accident of course. :P | Oct 03 00:48 |
| MinceR | ARM isn't very friendly either, afaik | Oct 03 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Depends on who is making them. | Oct 03 00:49 |
| MinceR | for every SoC you have to figure out how you can initialize the hw, how you can boot your code, etc. | Oct 03 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's just an ISA that you can license. | Oct 03 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone who can come up with the licensing money can make ARM CPUs. | Oct 03 00:49 |
| MinceR | and for most SoC makers/designers we are such a tiny part of the market that they just don't care about us at all | Oct 03 00:49 |
| MinceR | see how far CubieBoard got with their stuff | Oct 03 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Intel's mobile platforms are essentially SoC now. | Oct 03 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | They have the controllers for damned near everything in the CPU package. | Oct 03 00:50 |
| cubexyz | well IBM Thinkpad 700 is 1992.. I figure that's old enough :) | Oct 03 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | That's why it's so hard to get power management right. You used to be able to do power management by component. If you got most of it down, the rest didn't really matter that much. | Oct 03 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | Putting the SATA controller in low poer mode maybe saved you half a watt. | Oct 03 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | Now if you can't get that right, the whole system breaks down and you're idling at twice the power consumption you should be at. | Oct 03 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | *power | Oct 03 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | And if you figure that out, there's half a dozen things that you also need to figure out or you're back in the same boat. | Oct 03 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | So I don't expect that Linux will ever have the power management Windows does for Skylake. | Oct 03 00:53 |
| MinceR | that depends on whether m$'s final gambits succeed or not | Oct 03 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | It'll improve, like it has been, but it will reach a point where all of the easier things have been done and people lose interest. | Oct 03 00:53 |
| MinceR | if they succeed, it's possible that it won't even be legal to run anything but the one government-approved thin client OS anymore | Oct 03 00:53 |
| MinceR | if they fail, they'll go full patent troll and there won't be a "windows" anymore | Oct 03 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | What really pisses me off to no end is that MS has released probably thousands of patches to individual components of Windows 10 by now, and saying each time that it makes Windows more reliable. | Oct 03 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | So why am I still hitting most of the same bugs that were in the first release? | Oct 03 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | People know that and they know that even if the update installs and their machine comes back up that it won't be more reliable. | Oct 03 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | So they've taken to disabling the Windows Update service so they don't have a bad update that screws up their data. | Oct 03 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | That's not good either. | Oct 03 00:55 |
| cubexyz | you can disable AMT control on some intel motherboards | Oct 03 00:59 |
| cubexyz | now who knows if it can be reactivated | Oct 03 00:59 |
| cubexyz | but if you compile your own coreboot BIOS on a chrome-whatever, I feel that is your best bet | Oct 03 01:00 |
| cubexyz | or (not ideal) you could just run one old machine | Oct 03 01:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Legends of Linux Part 1: Linus Torvalds | Oct 03 08:52 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Hopefully a fix for this RAID mode crap on my laptop can be done for Linux 4.9. | Oct 03 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | Not counting on it though. | Oct 03 08:57 |
| schestowitz | maybe | Oct 03 09:02 |
| schestowitz | but it should already work | Oct 03 09:02 |
| schestowitz | Lenovo doesn't want it to | Oct 03 09:02 |
| schestowitz | keep chasing them | Oct 03 09:02 |
| schestowitz | they must be going nuts over you | Oct 03 09:03 |
| schestowitz | having special meetings on how to deal with you | Oct 03 09:03 |
| schestowitz | you cost them many millions | Oct 03 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | https://gcoupe.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/the-lenovo-yoga-900-software/ | Oct 03 09:04 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, According to Lenovo, if you use Windows Anytime Upgrade to get Windows 10 Pro, then they won't support it. | Oct 03 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | Users reporting that the Onekey recovery (used if you can't boot into Windows) isn't working for them. | Oct 03 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | So not only can you not install Linux or Windows from Microsoft's ISO, the recovery feature may not work and now you have a brick. | Oct 03 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I made a special installer in case that happens to me, but it wasn't easy, | Oct 03 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Newegg made a reply to it. | Oct 03 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | They admitted that you couldn't install Linux on the models I pointed out and pointed out 10 Lenovo laptops that they sell which you can install Linux on. | Oct 03 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | How arbitrary... | Oct 03 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | Oh gee, see this company has shit support for Linux and shit support in general, so here's some laptops where you can shoehorn Linux in from this company that you don't want to do business with anyway. | Oct 03 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, As for Alex St. John's comment that MS is adopting Apple's business model from 10 years ago, that does seem to be the case. | Oct 03 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | It'll always be called "Windows 10", they just foist upgrades on you whether you want them or not. | Oct 03 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | I agree that it could conceivably make the OS more stable, coherent, secure, etc. if it was from anyone but Microsoft. | Oct 03 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | In reality it just gives you a mess to deal with once or twice a month. | Oct 03 09:10 |
| schestowitz | I don't see a connection to Apple | Oct 03 09:29 |
| schestowitz | in his mind, maybe it's still just "Mac vs PC" | Oct 03 09:29 |
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| DaemonFC | Polycrastinator Alpha Member #165 - 1 day ago | Oct 03 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. Without the option to effectively opt out of these things until they're fixed, staying on Windows 7 - or moving to another platform, eventually - is starting to look like a wiser and wiser choice. Businesses can't afford the down time from failed updates, and with Windows 10 that down time | Oct 03 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | is starting to feel like an inevitability. | Oct 03 10:47 |
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| schestowitz | [10:47] <DaemonFC> Microsoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | But remember | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | they say they're not "cloud first" | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 03 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Windows can wait... | Oct 03 11:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994736961298432 | Oct 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dutch transparency advocates asking for open source, to | Oct 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | get open data https://t.co/KBvSiZF8ow | Oct 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dutch transparency advocates asking for open source, to get open data | Tux Machines | Oct 03 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/782997342718980096 | Oct 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/QoHP1yUKg0 | Oct 03 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: cheers | Oct 03 19:33 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 19:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/gRi6Y5BtYK | Oct 03 19:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 03 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Most Secure Android Phone | Android Central | Oct 03 19:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/mCh0e8WAZ2 | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, security | Oct 03 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013692929634305 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ethernet Switches https://t.co/N8qdEI2UQE (insidehpc.com) | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over Ethernet Switches - insideHPC | Oct 03 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013745479921664 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/2wOG6KXS3t | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, security | Tux Machines | Oct 03 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013746524364800 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ethernet Switches https://t.co/DtRGjiwlhe | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over Ethernet Switches | Tux Machines | Oct 03 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013747665178625 | Oct 03 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Oct 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 03 19:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Oct 03 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Oct 03 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783015147338141696 | Oct 03 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap Apps | Oct 03 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap Apps - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 03 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783021093254787076 | Oct 03 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More Drivers | Oct 03 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More Drivers - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/783026218782355460 | Oct 03 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz voting for you Jill will help Donald Trump win. Thank you :-) | Oct 03 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | Ordering fish at a restaurant gives you beef. Or something... | Oct 03 20:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9 features overview/preview | Oct 03 20:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9's CPUFreq To Make Greater Use Of Scheduler Info, IOWait Boosting - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EFI Test Driver Added To The Mainline Linux 4.9 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9 On x86_64 To Support Vmapped Stacks - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mellanox Platform Support Coming In Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783025766460260352 | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "In the months ahead the Linux kernel should start | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | receiving the work out of the "make-wifi-fast" | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | initiative" https://t.co/Kv8Srz2Qoo (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 03 20:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Should Soon Start Receiving "Make WiFi Fast" Improvements - Phoronix | Oct 03 20:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783027063515189248 | Oct 03 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch era | Oct 03 20:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch era | TECHPHYLUM.COM | Oct 03 20:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783027809132376064 | Oct 03 20:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mesos and #Kubernetes on a hybrid (IBM Power and x86) | Oct 03 20:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | architecture scenario https://t.co/6tfHC4c03M- | Oct 03 20:50 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/E1R1PBM.jpg | Oct 03 21:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8 | Oct 03 21:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8 | Tux Machines | Oct 03 21:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031482143035393 | Oct 03 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Systemd bug in the News https://t.co/y0pUz3zArK | Oct 03 21:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd bug in the News | Tux Machines | Oct 03 21:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031483258638336 | Oct 03 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9 Preview https://t.co/KJWaOGnrtI | Oct 03 21:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9 Preview | Tux Machines | Oct 03 21:07 | |
| MinceR | https://linux.ucla.edu/~eqy/molasses.html | Oct 03 21:16 |
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| MinceR | https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1901544/google-promotes-controversial-claim-its-not-possible-for-ethnic-minorities-to-be-racist-against-white-people/ | Oct 03 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Google promotes claim it's NOT possible for ethnic minorities to be racist against white people | Oct 03 21:28 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14563457_347374705611461_369513723668309429_n.png?oh=c5ae032410e0b8a6029129847b41d826&oe=5871EC28 | Oct 03 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I start to wonder more and more what exactly is a "white" person, and people of colour. | Oct 03 21:44 |
| MinceR | it's not discrete at all | Oct 03 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently it doesn't mean "Caucasian" because a lot of Caucasian people are being called coloured. | Oct 03 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | Like Mexicans | Oct 03 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | And it doesn't mean "Usonian" because I think I would have been called a white person while being far outside of US in a barely developed country. | Oct 03 21:47 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 03 21:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/vinnyoh89/status/783045439524212737 | Oct 03 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vinnyoh89: @coryxoxo @schestowitz never mind the fact that right to work states pay workers less and give less benefits | Oct 03 21:47 | |
| XRevan86 | it also doesn't mean being part of the developed world because I'm "white" and Japanese aren't | Oct 03 21:47 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europid | Oct 03 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasian race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 03 21:48 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: true | Oct 03 21:48 |
| schestowitz | the whole premise of the article is dumb | Oct 03 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But Mexicans are "coloured" | Oct 03 21:48 |
| MinceR | well, this crybully claim about "reverse" racism is stupid | Oct 03 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | while being Europioid | Oct 03 21:49 |
| MinceR | they just want to be bigots and have people accept it | Oct 03 21:49 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/YimX0m6 | Oct 03 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Word needs too revise its grammar - Imgur | Oct 03 22:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783035676740751361 | Oct 03 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 | Oct 03 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/c85fV9HGbM (techrights.org) | Oct 03 22:03 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 https://t.co/c85fV9HGbM' | Oct 03 22:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049724345536512 | Oct 03 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/ZwM0B8Hj2i | Oct 03 22:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 | Techrights | Oct 03 22:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049725465419776 | Oct 03 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/rVoNyHRZ0J | Oct 03 22:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049726706888704 | Oct 03 22:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/bAxYyGgBay | Oct 03 22:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:04 | |
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| Stites | In the USA the Federal Appeals Court for the Federal Circuit has issued a ruling by a 3 judge panel throwing out a software patent. Two judges issued an opinion saying the software patent was invalid for the usual mundane reasons. The third judge, Judge Meyer, agreed with the other 2 judges and then added 2 more reasons. Judge Meyer's second reason is that no software is patentable ever. This is HUGE! Here is the text of Judg | Oct 03 22:20 |
| Stites | http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.html | Oct 03 22:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | First Amendment Finally Reaches Patent Law | Patently-O | Oct 03 22:20 | |
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| stites_ | You need to read this: http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.html | Oct 03 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | seen it | Oct 03 22:34 |
| schestowitz | covered this morning | Oct 03 22:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/EjWtd8GxsP | Oct 03 22:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049728850145280 | Oct 03 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/bQMwD6RQH0 | Oct 03 22:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 03 22:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063614571835393 | Oct 03 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | HackMIT meets Fedora https://t.co/A9CBX0EkTb | Oct 03 22:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063905878827008 | Oct 03 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A tiny PC as a router https://t.co/oDgLTQsNZU | Oct 03 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.liw.fi) | Oct 03 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.liw.fi | A tiny PC as a router | Oct 03 23:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783066548143583233 | Oct 03 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8 | Oct 03 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0DZINaEYrp (padovan.org) | Oct 03 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 03 23:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-padovan.org | Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8 – Gustavo Padovan | Oct 03 23:26 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/hpKWIi9.jpg | Oct 03 23:28 |
| schestowitz | bambi?! | Oct 03 23:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: methinks you have a kickass addiction | Oct 03 23:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 23:41 |
| MinceR | no, just found a dump on imgur | Oct 03 23:41 |
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| MinceR | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/stupid-design-patent-month-rectangles-screen | Oct 04 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Stupid Design Patent of the Month: Rectangles on a Screen | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Oct 04 00:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | I decided to sign up with a per-mile car insurance plan. Little creepy, but the pricing is good. | Oct 04 00:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 04 02:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118646746808320 | Oct 04 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 | Oct 04 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SoCs https://t.co/rjeoQ7LYga (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 SoCs | Tux Machines | Oct 04 02:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118647820640256 | Oct 04 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source for Business: Pros and Cons | Oct 04 02:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source for Business: Pros and Cons | Tux Machines | Oct 04 02:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118648948826112 | Oct 04 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend | Oct 04 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Updated Components https://t.co/HCbaeIz67o | Oct 04 02:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend Brings Updated Components | Tux Machines | Oct 04 02:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What do you think about that? | Oct 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | Plug in a device that records how much you drive and just pay for what you use. | Oct 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | There's a small base rate (like $17.62 a month for me) and then a per-mile fee depending on what insurance options you get (2.2 cents per mile for me). | Oct 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | If I'm correct, I should average $20 a month this way where I pay $60 now. | Oct 04 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | What I'm paying now is essentially a huge subsidy for other people who drive a lot. | Oct 04 03:06 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 04 10:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783136058036793344 | Oct 04 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The October 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Oct 04 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FkUqtzxIbn (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 10:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The October 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Oct 04 10:52 | |
| schestowitz | [03:39] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything. | Oct 04 11:03 |
| schestowitz | My main laptop, an HP, is reliable | Oct 04 11:04 |
| schestowitz | never had to repair anything yet (since 2009) | Oct 04 11:04 |
| schestowitz | the chromebook is another matter, returned it to the shop | Oct 04 11:04 |
| schestowitz | (HP 14) | Oct 04 11:04 |
| schestowitz | HP Chromebook 14 or whatever they called it | Oct 04 11:04 |
| schestowitz | seems like others reported the same issued with it | Oct 04 11:04 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 04 11:11 | |
| schestowitz | [05:03] <dblaber> is ubuntu still where it was in the past :)? | Oct 04 11:12 |
| schestowitz | More server focus | Oct 04 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I guess the desktop has been used to promote the brand, among other things | Oct 04 11:13 |
| schestowitz | like packaging formats | Oct 04 11:13 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu is now used a lot where Debian used to be used | Oct 04 11:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pceebee23/status/783243263968849920 | Oct 04 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pceebee23: @AngusMacNeilSNP @schestowitz inevitable...now... little england lost in a myth of Empire | Oct 04 11:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/783245277851451393 | Oct 04 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz yes it is, and one clearly cannot patent speech. | Oct 04 11:17 | |
| schestowitz | There was a patent lawsuit over speech rec recently. High profile... | Oct 04 11:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783249738791587840 | Oct 04 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @hintjens I want my villa! | Oct 04 11:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783250641267351553 | Oct 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NixOS 16.09 "Flounder" Operating System Adds PXE Netboot | Oct 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support, systemd 231 https://t.co/bkB8QRgNHY | Oct 04 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | NixOS 16.09 "Flounder" Operating System Adds PXE Netboot Support, systemd 231 | Oct 04 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783250897711296512 | Oct 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.8 Officially Released for Those | Oct 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Who Want 100% Freedom https://t.co/fJPWMoMTi7 | Oct 04 11:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.8 Officially Released for Those Who Want 100% Freedom | Oct 04 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251220123222016 | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Midnight Commander 4.8.18 Adds Syntax Highlighting | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for CUDA and GLSL, Fixes https://t.co/0V90JzgTuP | Oct 04 11:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNU Midnight Commander 4.8.18 Adds Syntax Highlighting for CUDA and GLSL, Fixes | Oct 04 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251373601193988 | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dueling Arduinos reunite with new Arduino Foundation | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2pFi4TAGS3 (hackerboards.com) | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Dueling Arduinos reunite with new Arduino Foundation | Oct 04 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251529985908736 | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $39 network switching Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cortex-A53 https://t.co/jdgXvA6WYj (hackerboards.com) | Oct 04 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | $39 network switching Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on Cortex-A53 | Oct 04 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251927815557120 | Oct 04 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 3.12.64 LTS Updates the Networking Stack and | Oct 04 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fixes EXT4 Bugs https://t.co/0Pdf3tFcfc | Oct 04 11:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.64 LTS Updates the Networking Stack and Fixes EXT4 Bugs | Oct 04 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783252181415755776 | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SystemRescueCd 4.8.3 Released with | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5vV90nvkJZ (www.x.org) Server 1.18.4, Linux | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.4.23 LTS https://t.co/VdjHHBKdWP | Oct 04 11:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SystemRescueCd 4.8.3 Released with X.Org Server 1.18.4, Linux Kernel 4.4.23 LTS | Oct 04 11:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783252486962442240 | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 26 open source projects from Linux's 25 years | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/94RGNp81nJ (www.cio.com) | Oct 04 11:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-26 open source projects from Linux's 25 years | CIO | Oct 04 11:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783252662703820800 | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SoCs https://t.co/BMoylH12nQ (hackerboards.com) | Oct 04 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 SoCs | Oct 04 11:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783253100140396544 | Oct 04 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend | Oct 04 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Updated Components https://t.co/78gNOedDTg | Oct 04 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Backend Brings Updated Components | Oct 04 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783253433751134208 | Oct 04 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Collabora Developers Have Contributed over 100 Patches to | Oct 04 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 https://t.co/BPbwjWBr06 | Oct 04 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Collabora Developers Have Contributed over 100 Patches to Linux Kernel 4.8 | Oct 04 11:33 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Interview with Andy Cathrow of Anchore | Opensource.com | Oct 04 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783255966615793664 | Oct 04 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Looks like Homefront: The Revolution might be gearing up | Oct 04 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for a Linux release now https://t.co/NW7kQw2hH0 | Oct 04 11:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783256712182652928 | Oct 04 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Several donations boost reliability of Debian's core | Oct 04 11:50 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Collabora Developers Have Contributed over 100 Patches to...' | Oct 04 11:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.8 Officially Released for Those...' | Oct 04 11:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNU Midnight Commander 4.8.18 Adds Syntax Highlighting for...' | Oct 04 11:51 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 04 12:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783259681443700736 | Oct 04 12:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME From Scratch Project https://t.co/RvEyksG2cv | Oct 04 12:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-slackblogs.blogspot.com | SlackBlogs: GNOME From Scratch Project | Oct 04 12:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783263498096771072 | Oct 04 12:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Weather Forecast https://t.co/D3QWn54poY | Oct 04 12:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Weather Forecast | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Oct 04 12:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right Firewall | Oct 04 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distribution https://t.co/F2oohCNI6b (www.datamation.com) | Oct 04 12:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building a Hardware Firewall: Pick the Best Distribution - Datamation | Oct 04 12:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Scheduler Changes Published For The Linux 4.9 Kernel | Oct 04 12:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | BFS Updated For Linux 4.8, To Be Succeeded By New MuQSS | Oct 04 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Scheduler https://t.co/j9Yxn7UYi1 (www.phoronix.com) "Con | Oct 04 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kolivas...to premiere a new scheduler." | Oct 04 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282422788096001 | Oct 04 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Everything you need to know about Android 7.1 Nougat and | Oct 04 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Pixel Launcher https://t.co/Q3wU1QqoYx | Oct 04 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | NO TITLE | Oct 04 13:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why Android Fans Are Feeling Anxious Ahead of Google's | Oct 04 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Next Hardware Event https://t.co/XB8MFExneC | Oct 04 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | Why Android Fans Are Feeling Anxious Ahead of Google's Next Hardware Event | Motherboard | Oct 04 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282857036963840 | Oct 04 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Mi Box is officially launching today for $69 | Oct 04 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mkXWklz5fF (www.androidpolice.com) | Oct 04 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | The Mi Box is officially launching today for $69 | Oct 04 13:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! | Oct 04 13:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-balintreczey.hu | Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! | Obsessed with reality | Oct 04 13:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Sysprof Plans for #gnome 3.24 https://t.co/KbiJDjUBIw | Oct 04 13:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OSI Welcomes Powering Potential: Open Source Advocates | Oct 04 13:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Social [control] media does not punish people for racism, terror, 'trolling' etc. as it claims. Now even ciriticising religion or police is verboten? | Oct 04 14:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783292183768080386 | Oct 04 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones, | Oct 04 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more! | Oct 04 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kTM3d25XxB (techcrunch.com) | Oct 04 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 15:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones, Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more! | TechCrunch | Oct 04 15:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783293006094934016 | Oct 04 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AppData content ratings for games shipped in Fedora | Oct 04 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/b5uwTrXvUU (communityblog.fedoraproject.org) | Oct 04 15:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305810596159490 | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why health implants should have open source code | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/y98CJSxdBE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 15:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why health implants should have open source code | Tux Machines | Oct 04 15:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305812672294913 | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/gA9rcA07yW | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 15:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 04 15:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305813787938817 | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora News https://t.co/1BUY6o04Ud (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 15:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 15:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305815721598981 | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME News https://t.co/Lw0BaasU9W (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 15:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 15:01 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKyErEjxiE | Oct 04 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iFhone 8 Commercial Leaked! - YouTube | Oct 04 15:19 | |
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| MinceR | (short-lived link) https://i.4cdn.org/b/1475569857122.webm | Oct 04 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305817109909505 | Oct 04 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian News https://t.co/Y9KrOeQPqx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 15:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LegionAth favourited 'Why health implants should have open source code...' | Oct 04 15:31 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 4chan? | Oct 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz | seems like they'e going bust soon | Oct 04 15:35 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 04 15:35 |
| MinceR | afaik they jumped the shark long ago anyway | Oct 04 15:36 |
| schestowitz | it's funny, but offensive to most women | Oct 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz | so I won't post it | Oct 04 15:38 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 04 15:41 |
| MinceR | the link won't last more than a few hours anyway | Oct 04 15:41 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/tc5-1.jpg | Oct 04 15:50 |
| MinceR | (audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475545742389.webm | Oct 04 15:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/783311496298233856 | Oct 04 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: because it's well known all terrorists are unable to find £17.50 down the back of the sofa.... https://t.co/MxCQuSsrJP | Oct 04 15:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Let travellers pay £17.50 to beat queues at airport #security https://t.co/tUpXLHrKfq more proof that it really is security theater | Oct 04 15:51 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice swing | Oct 04 15:54 |
| schestowitz | bad outcome | Oct 04 15:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 04 15:54 |
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| MinceR | >"We are going to be a fully-independent, sovereign country, a country that is no longer part of a political union with supranational institutions that can override national parliaments and courts," she said to applause. | Oct 04 15:58 |
| MinceR | oh, they're going to leave the Commonwealth and kick out the royal family? :> | Oct 04 15:58 |
| schestowitz | HAhahahahahaha | Oct 04 15:59 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 04 15:59 |
| XRevan861 | Another thing I keep wondering about is "national". | Oct 04 16:04 |
| *XRevan861 is now known as XRevan86 | Oct 04 16:04 | |
| MinceR | "nation" is an idea invented to get people to gang up on other people, usually to kill them for the oppressors' profit | Oct 04 16:05 |
| XRevan86 | I guess the thing here is classical "us" and "them": "them" Germans/French can't dictate "their" will on "us", Britains, lords, the queen, the peasants alike. | Oct 04 16:08 |
| XRevan86 | * Britons | Oct 04 16:08 |
| MinceR | the classic forgetting that "them" also includes UK | Oct 04 16:08 |
| MinceR | and of course trying to have their cake and eat it too | Oct 04 16:09 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the EU people think about that | Oct 04 16:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783313648068460544 | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "I just want to run a container!" https://t.co/iMTtd6HXpQ | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (jvns.ca) | Oct 04 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | "I just want to run a container!" - Julia Evans | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783320852414750720 | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Quadrilateral Cowboy' released for Linux, a | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | single-player adventure in a cyberpunk world | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0oIh6Z1zQK (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 04 16:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/quadrilateral-cowboy-released-for-linux-a-single-player-adventure-in-a-cyberpunk-world.8246 ) | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323157805535232 | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with Comprehensive | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features https://t.co/6MtQHRuHfm (dot.kde.org) | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yYQMB8wc2V (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 16:11 |
| XRevan86 | While common people today have much better chances of communicating with common people from other countries than with lords of their own. | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZRjcy023Ms (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 04 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with Comprehensive Features | KDE.news | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Officially Released - Phoronix | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Celebrates Its 20th Anniversary with the Release of KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS | Oct 04 16:11 | |
| XRevan86 | and, obviously, share much more interests with them than with the "elite". | Oct 04 16:12 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TsiqumP | Oct 04 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-People like to pretend there's nothing wrong with Eclipse. I don't. - Imgur | Oct 04 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JotsandTitters/status/783322617528750084 | Oct 04 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JotsandTitters: @schestowitz @wikileaks $$$ the key objective | Oct 04 16:20 | |
| schestowitz | [16:09] <MinceR> i wonder what the EU people think about that | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | back to the 1970s | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | I didn't vote for brexit | Oct 04 16:21 |
| razielle_tzu | me neither | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LaurelCatherine/status/783322765713637378 | Oct 04 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LaurelCatherine: Well us good guys won that skirmish but the rodents never cease their chewing thru at wall https://t.co/xxu947oWhg | Oct 04 16:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Federal Court Says Ballot Selfie Ban Is Like Burning Down the House to Roast a Pig https://t.co/YqVRnSbwoa good analogy? | Oct 04 16:22 | |
| MinceR | i mean, the people who call the shots in the EU, the people these brexiters will negotiate with to try and keep all the advantages of the deal while getting rid of all the disadvantages | Oct 04 16:23 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/IUgHMDM.jpg | Oct 04 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323563046514689 | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pkcyMn9nUP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323565420531714 | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux Routers | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a227K7iCao (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux Routers | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783324385998430210 | Oct 04 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet for Gentoo as | Oct 04 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | contributor to the youbroketheinternet-overlay." | Oct 04 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lMvAggQOjH (gnunet.org) | Oct 04 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnunet.org | GNUnet for Gentoo | GNUnet | Oct 04 16:44 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice | Oct 04 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783331749027807232 | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI Support | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6v3yWusNSc (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI Support - Phoronix | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783332235575517184 | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - Phoronix | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783334538462257152 | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late For | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9 https://t.co/48iU37EdIT (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late For Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 04 16:56 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/iAZ7oFF.jpg | Oct 04 17:13 |
| MinceR | http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/7_questions_mike_pence_should_asked_vice_president_debate_20161004 | Oct 04 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here Are 7 Questions Mike Pence Should Be Asked at the Vice Presidential Debate - Truthdig | Oct 04 17:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late...' | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342749571350530 | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Tools Released https://t.co/N42hE1qDgY | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Tools Released | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342750980636672 | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/FOHY9CyoqJ | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342751953727488 | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BX83lq8bPq (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342752985526273 | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To University | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lawyers https://t.co/9lYvFIgMMV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To University Lawyers | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:27 | |
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| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/20sign-1-1.jpg | Oct 04 17:39 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/8sign-3-1.jpg | Oct 04 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342754168385536 | Oct 04 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQA | Oct 04 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tFlJk97AIl (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQA | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now...' | Oct 04 17:51 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/mickaelistria/status/783349449586343936 | Oct 04 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mickaelistria: @schestowitz Yup, there's something wrong here... Can you please report it to https://t.co/HVNrbTJQGQ ? | Oct 04 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe they think I took this shot | Oct 04 17:56 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 04 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783348773422587912 | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EyzSHDj5Eg (blog.lxde.org) | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lxde.org | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | LXDE Blog | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783349420922433536 | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iXpIozoAsu (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Oct 04 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/christianlawre2/status/783350068216602625 | Oct 04 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@christianlawre2: @schestowitz @wikileaks you worship hillary clinton. You don't know the truth, anymore. you think her lies are the truth and truth are lies. | Oct 04 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 04 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Cute. | Oct 04 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I worship HRC :-) | Oct 04 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know... | Oct 04 18:00 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/xsIXZwR.jpg | Oct 04 18:21 |
| schestowitz | nice | Oct 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Linus spoke about the pressure thing | Oct 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz | after he flew inside a fighter het | Oct 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz | *jet | Oct 04 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783284882042564609 | Oct 04 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: My friend @hintjens pushed our meeting at the hospital to 5PM instead of noon. Shit, I wanted to say goodbye! | Oct 04 18:32 | |
| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1h1cyg/whats_the_most_intellectual_joke_you_know/ | Oct 04 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's the most intellectual joke you know? : AskReddit | Oct 04 18:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pyloris favourited '"In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet...' | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783352897673293825 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT https://t.co/wofTyAW9q6 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT • The Register | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362905378959364 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/LiYEqC58Uz | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362906435883009 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDE | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M0ifUoX8g3 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDE | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362907581001728 | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | System Administration https://t.co/CxzLmf3Cye | Oct 04 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System Administration | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362908575059969 | Oct 04 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXDE Performance https://t.co/p73KPlil8e | Oct 04 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXDE Performance | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:48 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9HsBaOh.jpg | Oct 04 19:14 |
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| XRevan86 | base A | Oct 04 19:17 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/one-wish-3 | Oct 04 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - One Wish | Oct 04 20:43 | |
| MinceR | 04 213058 -TechrightsBot-tr:#techrights- @ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation. | Oct 04 20:43 |
| MinceR | EXTERMINATE ALL HUMANS | Oct 04 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | SEEK, LOCATE, DESTROY | Oct 04 20:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 3 Android phones that offer long battery life | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Android phones that offer long battery life | InfoWorld | Oct 04 21:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and | Oct 04 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5 | Oct 04 21:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Linux Foundation https://t.co/m8A7JAqtUg | Oct 04 21:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | Techrights | Oct 04 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Oct 04 21:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401712857944064 | Oct 04 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distros News https://t.co/aJRdIVXYmv | Oct 04 21:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros News | Tux Machines | Oct 04 21:22 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: sounds like Captain America: Winter Soldier | Oct 04 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That's from Doctor Who :). | Oct 04 21:27 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/legLOTd.jpg | Oct 04 21:28 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/nihEOtw | Oct 04 21:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401714284015616 | Oct 04 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupter | Oct 04 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IrVWIsDeiQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupter | Tux Machines | Oct 04 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401715315814400 | Oct 04 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What CIOs need to know about open source forking | Oct 04 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What CIOs need to know about open source forking | Tux Machines | Oct 04 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401716481859584 | Oct 04 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Oct 04 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Tux Machines | Oct 04 21:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIRER | Oct 04 22:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783421228845441024 | Oct 04 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 | Oct 04 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M1dWVi5Wie (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 22:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/783395668421378048 | Oct 04 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz c'mon-one senior judge with no business experience nor extensive technology background-baying at the moon | Oct 04 23:36 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: ah, OK, I'm not into it, never was | Oct 04 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's pretty good. | Oct 04 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | Both classical and current. | Oct 04 23:37 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/H9vFsZG.gifv | Oct 04 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783417084852117505 | Oct 04 23:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @TN_Conservative @schestowitz @wikileaks Good Luck ,,, https://t.co/LM6sbj8O3Q | Oct 04 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | LOL, MinceR https://twitter.com/RoyCohnsGhost/status/783260634725113856 | Oct 04 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RoyCohnsGhost: @JimBertido @wikileaks Bill doesn't have to hide out in an embassy to avoid his accusers. https://t.co/5RCmb1EMtM | Oct 04 23:42 | |
| schestowitz | funny. | Oct 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | nails it | Oct 04 23:42 |
| MinceR | good for him | Oct 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | but the sculptures I saw had a small one | Oct 04 23:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783426190581391360 | Oct 04 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and | Oct 04 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5 | Oct 04 23:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | Techrights | Oct 04 23:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783434239136108544 | Oct 04 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwlu | Oct 04 23:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438717092564992 | Oct 04 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phone Under $900 https://t.co/ITHBaxtYs3 | Oct 04 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 04 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone Under $900 | Android Central | Oct 04 23:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438892808728576 | Oct 04 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phone With Removable Battery | Oct 04 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CbSj96EQqX (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 04 23:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone With Removable Battery | Android Central | Oct 04 23:52 | |
| cubexyz | ok, I had some time so I was able to do some updates | Oct 05 00:14 |
| cubexyz | a historical look at filesystems | Oct 05 00:15 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Oct 05 00:15 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/comparison-different-os-df.txt | Oct 05 00:15 |
| cubexyz | got some ideas for updating the df command | Oct 05 00:15 |
| cubexyz | the documentation for very old Unix is a bit deficient | Oct 05 00:19 |
| cubexyz | it assumes you know a lot | Oct 05 00:20 |
| razielle_tzu | back then wouldn't that be true? | Oct 05 00:20 |
| cubexyz | definitely yes | Oct 05 00:20 |
| cubexyz | still, I feel I should try to improve it | Oct 05 00:20 |
| razielle_tzu | i'm not saying you shouldn't | Oct 05 00:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783439704968536064 | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwlu | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 00:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441578656428033 | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XqjoQum5Uk (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 00:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released - Tizen Experts | Oct 05 00:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441771925766148 | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FrGvay6NVm (www.everydaylinuxuser.com) | Oct 05 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 00:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 « Everyday Linux User | Oct 05 00:23 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/mV5NrEC.jpg | Oct 05 00:27 |
| cubexyz | I have to load-balance the Unix v5 files | Oct 05 00:28 |
| cubexyz | got some ideas for future updates... | Oct 05 00:29 |
| cubexyz | port some sort of file compression utility for v5 | Oct 05 00:29 |
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| cubexyz | the old DEC RK05 hard drive system was limited to 2.5 megs per drive | Oct 05 00:35 |
| cubexyz | so one has to be a bit economical with disk usage | Oct 05 00:36 |
| razielle_tzu | just a bit | Oct 05 00:36 |
| cubexyz | my original amiga hard drive was also pretty small | Oct 05 00:42 |
| cubexyz | 49 megs | Oct 05 00:42 |
| cubexyz | seagate ST-157N | Oct 05 00:43 |
| cubexyz | still, going from a single 880K floppy to 49 megs was a big difference | Oct 05 00:44 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Oct 05 00:44 |
| razielle_tzu | i can't remember the size of my first amiga hdd | Oct 05 00:44 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783455238015496193 | Oct 05 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: Just discovered my honest and personal post about quitting has been grossly twisted by @schestowitz. Not happy. https://t.co/g1i2CkfXgp | Oct 05 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | haha | Oct 05 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Alice/Section 101 Still Spelling Doom for Proponents of Software Patents, Including Some Patent Law Firms | Techrights | Oct 05 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783453965673304065 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454095386435585 | Oct 05 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz No, but I have now, and you have grossly misrepresented my position. | Oct 05 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz I am *not* going back to software development. That comment you quote was sarcastic and snide (and I responded to it). | Oct 05 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454450241241088 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454624598470656 | Oct 05 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz My decision is personal and does *not* reflect any 'layoffs' or 'shutdowns'. Your inference is harmful to my employer. | Oct 05 00:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And I vehemently resent your suggestion that I (or anyone else) is, or has been, in the business of lying to clients. | Oct 05 00:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454746690461696 | Oct 05 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz If your reading comprehension skills are so poor, maybe you should not be in the business of writing. | Oct 05 00:56 | |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 05 00:56 |
| schestowitz | you did promote software patents a lot. This, to me, is dishonest. | Oct 05 00:56 |
| schestowitz | -me | Oct 05 00:56 |
| schestowitz | he's not happy about the critical slant | Oct 05 00:57 |
| razielle_tzu | evidently | Oct 05 00:58 |
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| cubexyz | I'm going to augment the ps command as well | Oct 05 01:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783447400010711040 | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Become an undead assassion in 'Aragami', now available | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with day-1 Linux support and some thoughts from me | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NFuEERAuGk (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 05 01:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783455397139087361 | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24 Release Schedule Now https://t.co/EQozuek6h4 | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) direct: https://t.co/5ONeb4hMX1 | Oct 05 01:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783456442082791424 | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The Desktop | Oct 05 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7GPjsasJfK (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 05 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The Desktop - Phoronix | Oct 05 01:02 | |
| schestowitz | razielle_tzu: it's ok if they dislike me | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | they're supposed to | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | otherwise I fail to counter them | Oct 05 01:03 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | but I'm fine with that, I heard from some people they won't say those things for fear of insulting or alienating them | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | but someone needs to do it, and what I said was actually true | Oct 05 01:03 |
| schestowitz | they're nervous over death of swpats at the moment | Oct 05 01:03 |
| razielle_tzu | so they should be | Oct 05 01:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457175863644160 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457450372374529 | Oct 05 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz Holding views that differ from yours is 'dishonest'? No, it isn't. And you have no idea how & on what basis I advise clients. | Oct 05 01:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz While I may not agree with you, I've always viewed you as fair and principled. Apparently I was wrong. Show some respect. | Oct 05 01:05 | |
| schestowitz | No, he never viewed me like that | Oct 05 01:05 |
| schestowitz | he knew where I stoof | Oct 05 01:05 |
| schestowitz | *stood | Oct 05 01:05 |
| cubexyz | is this Mr. Solve the web page? :) | Oct 05 01:06 |
| cubexyz | oh well, it doesn't matter | Oct 05 01:09 |
| cubexyz | the tone seemed the same | Oct 05 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783457154820956164 | Oct 05 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel | Oct 05 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/PJ5mZzZ6RX | Oct 05 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 01:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 - Exclusive | Oct 05 01:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux...' | Oct 05 01:10 | |
| cubexyz | almost as obtuse as Ted Stevens | Oct 05 01:12 |
| cubexyz | it's not a big truck you know! | Oct 05 01:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783458633027760128 | Oct 05 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And, don't worry, I will continue to 'promote' software patents, even without a financial interest. | Oct 05 01:14 | |
| schestowitz | haha | Oct 05 01:14 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/c6OmW3s | Oct 05 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Maps now has functionality that allows you to mimic the swerving of a drunk driver. - Imgur | Oct 05 01:17 | |
| MinceR | an honorable villain, willing to fight to destroy the world even if there's nothing in it for him! | Oct 05 01:18 |
| razielle_tzu | xD | Oct 05 01:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel | Oct 05 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/c5wWe5mWxZ | Oct 05 01:49 |
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| MinceR | > anon@anon:~> grep couric /usr/share/units.dat | Oct 05 02:10 |
| MinceR | > couric 2.5 pounds feces # official unit of measurement of fecal samples, per: http://www.efsmi.org/?ref=efsmi.eu | Oct 05 02:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.efsmi.org | European Fecal Standards and Measurements Institute (EFSMI) | Oct 05 02:10 | |
| MinceR | > kouric couric | Oct 05 02:10 |
| MinceR | > trump 79.366 couric # per: http://www.howtallis.org/donald-trump-height-weight-shoe-size/ | Oct 05 02:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump height and weight | HowTallis.Org | Oct 05 02:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/0e3Kl7N8j5 | Oct 05 04:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows Subsystem for Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 04:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507780393050113 | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on March 22, 2017 https://t.co/whcdvGnQ6t | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 04:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros on March 22, 2017 | Tux Machines | Oct 05 04:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507782469169157 | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v82aXGPelZ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 04:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Tux Machines | Oct 05 04:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507783580737536 | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves the | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updater, Patches Over 40 Bugs https://t.co/X92mNoZMNI | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 04:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves the Updater, Patches Over 40 Bugs | Tux Machines | Oct 05 04:23 | |
| DaemonFC | http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/ | Oct 05 05:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo won't make Windows 10 phones due to Microsoft's commitment issues | Oct 05 05:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://hothardware.com/news/windows-10-anniversary-update-sending-users-reboot-loop-hell | Oct 05 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Latest Windows 10 Anniversary Update Build Sends Some Users To Reboot Loop Hell | HotHardware | Oct 05 06:23 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3123153/windows/more-than-half-of-pcs-dont-have-windows-10-au-yet-and-no-ones-quite-sure-why.html | Oct 05 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More than half of PCs don't have Windows 10 AU yet, and no one's quite sure why | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pudm3 ] | Oct 05 06:24 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.komando.com/happening-now/350765/busted-the-reason-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-you-think/all | Oct 05 06:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Busted! The reason Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | One Page | Komando... | Oct 05 06:29 | |
| DaemonFC | "The big problem Apple will have going forward is that Mac security entirely depends on a single defense called GateKeeper. GateKeeper only lets programs install if they have an approval certificate from Apple. | Oct 05 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | That means GateKeeper will stop you downloading and installing a random virus off the Internet. However, its weakness is that once a program has approval from Apple, it trusts that it's always going to be good. | Oct 05 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | In the ransomware attack from last week, hackers broke into the website of the Transmission BitTorrent client and replace the legitimate download with a version that included malicious code. GateKeeper just let the infected program install with no fuss." | Oct 05 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | The article is mostly an ad for Kaspersky Antivirus though. | Oct 05 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/03/18/busted-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-think.html | Oct 05 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Busted! Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/pudno ] | Oct 05 06:31 | |
| DaemonFC | Fox News basically copied it and replaced the ad for Kaspersky with advice to get an antivirus program. | Oct 05 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business. | Oct 05 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | They had about 200 systems. 150 ran Linux and 50 ran Windows. The BSA found out that some copies of Windows weren't licensed, so they tried to force a settlement on the company that involved wiping out the 150 Linux systems and installing a licensed copy of Windows on all 200. | Oct 05 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | He said that negotiations went on for months and he left the company and never did find out what happened. | Oct 05 06:38 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 05 10:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783603812221190144 | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Releases WildFly Application Server Version 10.1 | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9C5nJr6fJ2 (www.infoq.com) | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Red Hat Releases WildFly Application Server Version 10.1 | Oct 05 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783604912961781760 | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.8 https://t.co/79jOSL8JGA | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.8 « codeblog | Oct 05 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783607406580404225 | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8 | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a2AsIqguRh (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8 • The Register | Oct 05 11:01 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 05 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783611070237728768 | Oct 05 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/peUF9kpNdX | Oct 05 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 05 11:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers...' | Oct 05 11:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros...' | Oct 05 11:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves the Updater, Patches...' | Oct 05 11:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7929025 | Oct 05 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs Now http://time.com/4518365/google-pixel-xl-apple-iphone-android/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/04/a-look-back-at-googles-android-flagships-the-nexus-family/ | Oct 05 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> time.com | Google Pixel: Why Android Fans Should Love the iPhone Rival | Oct 05 11:30 | |
| schestowitz | "I fail to see any enthusiasm about that. Apple jail vs Google jaill? I can’t see the difference of the merits in that." | Oct 05 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.engadget.com | A look back at Google's Android flagships: the Nexus family [ http://ur1.ca/pufgz ] | Oct 05 11:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux Supports...' | Oct 05 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783615727374917632 | Oct 05 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both ISOs, Based | Oct 05 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 https://t.co/JjQY4EDHkK | Oct 05 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both ISOs, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 | Oct 05 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616000969347072 | Oct 05 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub and 25 sensor | Oct 05 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | modules https://t.co/8yHJYfEemw (hackerboards.com) | Oct 05 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub and 25 sensor modules | Oct 05 11:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both...' | Oct 05 11:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @aadrake favourited 'Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub...' | Oct 05 11:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616294578954244 | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/xcrLzGuu6h | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows Subsystem for Linux | Oct 05 11:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616532228239360 | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on March 22, 2017 https://t.co/eAssl0BRg8 | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros on March 22, 2017 - Exclusive | Oct 05 11:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616799749341184 | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File Manager | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Many New Features https://t.co/eDCLJqeVF4 | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File Manager Brings Many New Features | Oct 05 11:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in...' | Oct 05 11:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros...' | Oct 05 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616937171582976 | Oct 05 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Oct 05 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Sg7fOLDWNe (hackerboards.com) | Oct 05 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Oct 05 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617396410085376 | Oct 05 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux Supports | Oct 05 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the New, Longer Tweets https://t.co/szho0lnp0M | Oct 05 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux Supports the New, Longer Tweets | Oct 05 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617865291329536 | Oct 05 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDE | Oct 05 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma 5.8 LTS Desktop https://t.co/30GXm4kZnG | Oct 05 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Desktop | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617914217857024 | Oct 05 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Oct 05 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6FFJWG2rKg (www.huffingtonpost.com) | Oct 05 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Huffington Post | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File Manager Brings...' | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux Supports...' | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers...' | Oct 05 11:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783619309998399488 | Oct 05 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mad Max to release on 20th of October for Linux & | Oct 05 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SteamOS, being ported by Feral Interactive | Oct 05 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/T4gSGetTz3 (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 05 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/mad-max-to-release-on-20th-of-october-for-linux-steamos-being-ported-by-feral-interactive.8257 ) | Oct 05 11:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783619733115535360 | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The Mad Max game is being released for Linux later this | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | month on 20 October." https://t.co/m74rinjGrO | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mad Max Coming To Linux, NVIDIA Graphics Supported - Phoronix | Oct 05 11:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783620238847971329 | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of Heroes | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10th Anniversary Bundle https://t.co/2WJ1n7hAvc | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 11:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of Heroes 10th Anniversary Bundle | Oct 05 11:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/opendna/status/783628484363087872 | Oct 05 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@opendna: Related: publicly traded companies which list "goodwill" as an asset on the balance sheet. https://t.co/yMOkVZCP0N | Oct 05 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How many companies out there have imaginary/intangible perceived value that's basically just a bubble like #swpats ? What happens next? | Oct 05 12:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in...' | Oct 05 12:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783625007134105604 | Oct 05 12:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Beta 3 Release Updates FireFox, KDE Applications, | Oct 05 12:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | VirtualBox https://t.co/HFZibpK1Ec (news.opensuse.org) | Oct 05 12:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 12:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE News | Oct 05 12:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783625573096689664 | Oct 05 12:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortage | Oct 05 12:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UrL1gCOmdz (opensource.com) | Oct 05 12:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 12:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reviewing patches makes you a better coder | Opensource.com | Oct 05 12:45 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Goofy_fr/status/783641553826934784 | Oct 05 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Goofy_fr: Vous voulez travailler dans l'informatique, trouver un boulot bien payé et intéressant, choisissez l'open source ! https://t.co/63htfplZ3f | Oct 05 13:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It's good to be an open source pro in Europe https://t.co/ZzB1TwqJuT #freesw | Oct 05 13:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GeorgeAnders/status/783648378580152321 | Oct 05 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GeorgeAnders: @schestowitz Cars used to play that function. But who drives anymore!? | Oct 05 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783651297807433728 | Oct 05 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Just closed mine, never used it anyway... :) | Oct 05 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GreensforJill/status/783651762767007744 | Oct 05 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreensforJill: @dodrty @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka Yes. Military experience is invaluable to any President. 🌻 | Oct 05 13:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dodrty/status/783652765377581061 | Oct 05 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dodrty: @GreensforJill @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka well, it damn sure wouldn't do DJT any freaking good! | Oct 05 14:00 | |
| schestowitz | some people closing their accounts at yahoo today | Oct 05 14:00 |
| schestowitz | and talking about those stupid VP debates.. | Oct 05 14:01 |
| MinceR | (shortlived, audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475619161631.webm | Oct 05 14:07 |
| razielle_tzu | of course they're talking about the debates | Oct 05 14:25 |
| MinceR | http://www.theonion.com/graphic/jurisprudence-fetishist-gets-off-on-technicality-9063 | Oct 05 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'www.theonion.com' ( status 0 @ http://www.theonion.com/graphic/jurisprudence-fetishist-gets-off-on-technicality-9063 ) | Oct 05 14:31 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: excellent! | Oct 05 14:39 |
| MinceR | < anon> tories have unveiled new uk flag - http://i.imgur.com/HqCYSZi.jpg | Oct 05 15:20 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 05 19:55 | |
| cubexyz | here's a good counter-argument: | Oct 05 19:56 |
| cubexyz | http://listovative.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-not-eat-food-at-mcdonalds/ | Oct 05 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Reasons why you should not eat Food at McDonalds - Listovative [ http://ur1.ca/puhq7 ] | Oct 05 19:56 | |
| schestowitz | ta for the link | Oct 05 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783735551572709377 | Oct 05 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming To | Oct 05 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz GNU/Linux https://t.co/D8sh8V5z0U (techrights.org) | Oct 05 20:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783742161724506113 | Oct 05 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming To GNU/Linux | Techrights | Oct 05 20:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | My triumph in Rocket League and why you need to own it on | Oct 05 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux https://t.co/hT1UsUosyJ (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 05 20:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ConnorThompson_ favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Oct 05 20:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Oct 05 20:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783743074962927617 | Oct 05 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apricity: Slip Into Something More Comfortable | Oct 05 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ngQ93NizD1 (www.linuxinsider.com) | Oct 05 20:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apricity: Slip Into Something More Comfortable | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Oct 05 20:24 | |
| cubexyz | MIcrosoft vice president Paul Maritz describing microsoft's strategy vs netscape, java and the internet: | Oct 05 20:28 |
| cubexyz | "embrace, extend and extinguish" | Oct 05 20:28 |
| cubexyz | didn't work though | Oct 05 20:29 |
| cubexyz | there's some balkanizing of course | Oct 05 20:30 |
| cubexyz | I believe the current term is 'splinternet' | Oct 05 20:30 |
| cubexyz | google android uses google (naturally) | Oct 05 20:31 |
| cubexyz | blackberry defaulted to bing | Oct 05 20:32 |
| cubexyz | iphone doesn't use flash | Oct 05 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783749770552672256 | Oct 05 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu on Intel Atom mini PCs (Linuxium’s builds for Bay | Oct 05 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trail and Cherry Trail computers) https://t.co/nR2ibXh5Bl | Oct 05 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (liliputing.com) | Oct 05 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 20:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu on Intel Atom mini PCs (Linuxium's builds for Bay Trail and Cherry Trail computers) - Liliputing | Oct 05 20:33 | |
| cubexyz | the doomsday scenario I feared... that microsoft would take over everything, didn't happen | Oct 05 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783750239668858880 | Oct 05 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | [Early Access] Sailfish OS Fiskarsinjoki | Oct 05 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NRTVKx8Fg1 (blog.jolla.com) | Oct 05 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 20:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | [Early Access] Sailfish OS Fiskarsinjoki | Jolla Blog | Oct 05 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783751140039163904 | Oct 05 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trying Out The Experimental Unity 8 Session On Ubuntu | Oct 05 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 16.10 https://t.co/llRM8xR0iD (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 05 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 20:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trying Out The Experimental Unity 8 Session On Ubuntu 16.10 - Phoronix | Oct 05 20:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783752049842323456 | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FUSE Supports POSIX ACLs In Linux 4.9 | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UOXFBPiYA6 (www.phoronix.com) Staging Update | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux 4.9 https://t.co/DUzA3h9NnU (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FUSE Supports POSIX ACLs In Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 05 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Staging Update For Linux 4.9 Is Heavy With Adding Greybus, Raspberry Pi VCHIQ - Phoronix | Oct 05 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754086843809792 | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell XPS 13 laptops with Kaby Lake now available for $800 | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and up (Windows and Ubuntu options) | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BAIFQuhbVZ (liliputing.com) | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dell XPS 13 laptops with Kaby Lake now available for $800 and up (Windows and Ubuntu options) - Liliputing | Oct 05 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754474653384706 | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu, enterprise container | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | portfolio expands https://t.co/5ho6RWOhhz | Oct 05 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.computerweekly.com) | Oct 05 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu, enterprise container portfolio expands - Open Source Insider | Oct 05 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754626524934145 | Oct 05 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unity 8 Desktop Session Arrives in Ubuntu 16.10 | Oct 05 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8FgCXRaAaX (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Oct 05 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 20:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Unity 8 Desktop Session Arrives in Ubuntu 16.10 - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 05 20:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783755319025528832 | Oct 05 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Happy 25th once again to Linux, ‘the little OS that | Oct 05 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | definitely could’ https://t.co/JRm8vIBzsC | Oct 05 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pcworld.idg.com.au) | Oct 05 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.idg.com.au | Happy 25th once again to Linux, 'the little OS that definitely could' - PC World Australia | Oct 05 20:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756149308915713 | Oct 05 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition now available with Ubuntu | Oct 05 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Intel Kaby Lake CPU https://t.co/pmn9anNuB1 | Oct 05 20:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition now available with Ubuntu Linux and Intel Kaby Lake CPU | Oct 05 20:52 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2340.html | Oct 05 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... The Internet of ransomware things! | Oct 05 21:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756572707196932 | Oct 05 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots, | Oct 05 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Video) https://t.co/ojEa6MEnCx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) ... | Oct 05 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pvGouaGBFS (joindiaspora.com) | Oct 05 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/hands-unity-8-ubuntu-16-10-screenshot-tourHands ) | Oct 05 21:55 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10...' | Oct 05 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756606626562052 | Oct 05 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots, | Oct 05 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Video) https://t.co/m7zMIpEazQ (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Oct 05 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 21:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Hands On With Unity 8 in Ubuntu 16.10 - OMG! Ubuntu! | Oct 05 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772652099907584 | Oct 05 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Graphics https://t.co/6seYjwGxCm | Oct 05 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772653572141056 | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, Kubernetes | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Canonical Ubuntu https://t.co/H9v6iCBMWv | Oct 05 21:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772654591283200 | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/eNoLJACqr1 | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772655635668992 | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mad Max for GNU/Linux https://t.co/l7HNEY43Us | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mad Max for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 21:56 | |
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| MinceR | 05 203859 < cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's diet | Oct 05 22:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 05 22:20 |
| MinceR | that's pretty nutty | Oct 05 22:20 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/XTqYah2.gifv | Oct 05 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Oct 05 22:23 | |
| MinceR | https://magyarchan.net/boards/b/image/1475/70/14757021789774.png | Oct 05 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://magyarchan.net/boards/b/image/1475/70/14757021789774.png ) | Oct 05 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | Pieter Hintjens's Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On http://techrights.org/2016/10/05/pieter-hintjens-swpats/ | Oct 05 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pieter Hintjens’s Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/puihw ] | Oct 05 22:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/783782530487123968 | Oct 05 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz Thank you, my online friend. | Oct 05 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/taotetek/status/783783812807401472 | Oct 05 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@taotetek: @schestowitz thank you so much for writing this. | Oct 05 22:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783785669604831232 | Oct 05 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Same here :D | Oct 05 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | rianne is waiting for new articles | Oct 05 22:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783786499082973184 | Oct 05 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz They are coming as we speak :) | Oct 05 22:53 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fnkbnr/status/783789576808697856 | Oct 05 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fnkbnr: .@schestowitz They might not be "lying" but are forced to so. Question: Would that be legal. Which law would make this possible? | Oct 05 23:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772656868859904 | Oct 05 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel Headlines https://t.co/B1PFthUhKL | Oct 05 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 05 23:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Headlines | Tux Machines | Oct 05 23:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Linux and Graphics https://t.co/6seYjwGxCm' | Oct 05 23:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 05 23:17 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Oct 06 02:30 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Oct 06 02:30 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 06 02:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783819801135308800 | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/dELC5GNFWl | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Collabora followed @tuxmachines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783832583025008640 | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/Dn7CNaRpZe | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849855907094528 | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/0RcRGSxI7Z | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 03:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849856917917696 | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | expansion https://t.co/40VVEmMGn7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 03:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style expansion | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849857932898304 | Oct 06 03:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & | Oct 06 03:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | K12 Capture File Support https://t.co/etU4tgv7lm | Oct 06 03:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 03:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 03:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & K12 Capture File Support | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849859010867200 | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google releases open source 'Cartographer' | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cm9sUJvYKf (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 03:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google releases open source 'Cartographer' | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849860038483968 | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/THXHoi9z97 | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 03:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration Support Coming Soon | Tux Machines | Oct 06 03:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the...' | Oct 06 03:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend &...' | Oct 06 03:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration...' | Oct 06 04:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | So we voted today. | Oct 06 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I did split my ballot. | Oct 06 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for some Greens when it was that and Democrats. :P | Oct 06 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | But that was only for the water reclamation board. | Oct 06 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | They're doing that Deep Tunnel project that's been going on since the 70s. | Oct 06 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it's wasted plenty of money by now. | Oct 06 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_us_57f53b9be4b002a7312022ef | Oct 06 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Mike Pence's Defining Moment As Governor? Enabling An HIV Outbreak | Huffington Post | Oct 06 04:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm happy. I got to vote to eliminate a useless government office and save taxpayers $800,000 a year. | Oct 06 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | Turns out there's a Cook County recorder and the Clerk's office and they both do similar things. | Oct 06 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | So I voted to eliminate the recorder's office. | Oct 06 05:33 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Oct 06 08:39 |
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| schestowitz | SebthreeBQM10HD: morning... | Oct 06 09:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | schestowitz morning | Oct 06 09:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783946387360710656 | Oct 06 09:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity | Oct 06 09:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 Session After All https://t.co/rYyTWbRLDe | Oct 06 09:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 09:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity 8 Session After All | Oct 06 09:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783946674347642881 | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 https://t.co/WLRTGSUpGU | Oct 06 09:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 | Oct 06 09:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783948201825079296 | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with Other | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Distributions https://t.co/L0uYZaQtyt | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 09:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with Other GNU/Linux Distributions | Oct 06 09:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783948477554458624 | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/dAVAgh7OSD | Oct 06 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 09:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork | Oct 06 09:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783948727245496320 | Oct 06 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style | Oct 06 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | expansion https://t.co/iP3mS9utb3 (hackerboards.com) | Oct 06 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style expansion | Oct 06 09:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783949021350072320 | Oct 06 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & | Oct 06 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | K12 Capture File Support https://t.co/zcstDdotno | Oct 06 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & K12 Capture File Support | Oct 06 09:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783949442525368320 | Oct 06 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid | Oct 06 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/7auTNXKDWY | Oct 06 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 09:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration Support Coming Soon - Exclusive | Oct 06 09:40 | |
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| schestowitz | Danish Financial Supervisory Authority (FSA) will be covered later this morning in Techrights... | Oct 06 10:28 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for the heads up. I'll read it and likely forward it to some | Oct 06 10:34 |
| schestowitz | > friends in Denmark. One fellow I worked with had his PhD delayed a year | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > or so while the administrators and businesses fought over the software | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > patents. He couldn't publish while that was going on and without | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > publishing the dissertation, he could not be awarded his PhD. | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz | publishable | Oct 06 11:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783950014624169984 | Oct 06 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 | Oct 06 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/eAmvdlHc16 | Oct 06 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 11:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) | Oct 06 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783951027858993152 | Oct 06 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 | Oct 06 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/WuOhBJX3hU | Oct 06 11:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) | Tux Machines | Oct 06 11:20 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice...' | Oct 06 11:20 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu...' | Oct 06 11:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu...' | Oct 06 11:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an...' | Oct 06 11:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration...' | Oct 06 11:20 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, it's on the Intranet, so everyone would have seen it." | Oct 06 11:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998181084426244 | Oct 06 12:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demos | Oct 06 12:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v6CVzdlm2X (thenextweb.com) | Oct 06 12:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demos | Oct 06 12:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998390925422592 | Oct 06 12:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking by | Oct 06 12:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | releasing its Pixel smartphone https://t.co/WtYQzMCFBK | Oct 06 12:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.cnbc.com) | Oct 06 12:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking by releasing its Pixel smartphone | Oct 06 12:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998823181975552 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora meeting summary https://t.co/DvSKS1paie | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ankursinha.in) | Oct 06 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Join Meeting 26 September 2016 - Summary - ankursinha.in/blog | Oct 06 13:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783999531964887040 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-Source | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software https://t.co/bF27hFe8No (www.bloomberg.com) | Oct 06 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-Source Software - Bloomberg | Oct 06 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784000130290708481 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Rugged Android Phone https://t.co/79Ac4Y38re | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) "Bottom line: The Galaxy S7 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Rugged Android Phone | Android Central | Oct 06 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Active" | Oct 06 13:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001188836540416 | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Patches Android for 78 Vulnerabilities in October | Oct 06 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update https://t.co/K09PHLoMvO (www.eweek.com) | Oct 06 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Google Patches 78 Android Flaws in October Update | Oct 06 13:04 | |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh wasn't back in here again | Oct 06 13:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/784004160840761346 | Oct 06 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: WebKitGTK+ and WPE are cool, but I'm more curious about this: https://t.co/W7Ckhz6NkB https://t.co/OJ4tUbylPB | Oct 06 13:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://servo.org/ ) | Oct 06 13:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Web Engines Hackfest 2016! https://t.co/94BMQzxVnu #WebKitGTK #gnome #gtk #freesw #www | Oct 06 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001891265052672 | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10 basic linux security measures everyone should be doing | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784003344402636800 | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Frogr 1.2 released https://t.co/zApdkzIQ3T (mariospr.org) | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5AZBwAxls2 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784005247756820480 | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in the | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | UK https://t.co/AHYugwV9yS (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in the UK - Tizen Experts | Oct 06 13:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Camera https://t.co/IsXEwGIobf | Oct 06 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 06 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Camera | Android Central | Oct 06 13:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007756860776448 | Oct 06 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big Screen | Oct 06 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5GzeJKfy6b (www.fastcompany.com) | Oct 06 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big Screen | Fast Company | Business + Innovation | Oct 06 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784009947948408836 | Oct 06 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's Guide | Oct 06 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CYyQsguM6M (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 06 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's Guide | Android Central | Oct 06 13:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box in | Oct 06 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | your home https://t.co/WVyBB0mMAq (www.pocket-lint.com) | Oct 06 13:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box in your home - Pocket-lint | Oct 06 13:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012198582620161 | Oct 06 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: Leaked | Oct 06 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Changelog Reveals Difference https://t.co/C1TWTNXSgp | Oct 06 13:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: Leaked Changelog Reveals Difference Between Pixel OS Features And Upcoming Update | Oct 06 13:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012577139556352 | Oct 06 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the Tizen | Oct 06 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Store https://t.co/kFVRVvXpWr (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 06 13:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the Tizen Store - Tizen Experts | Oct 06 13:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012811907235840 | Oct 06 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya Today | Oct 06 13:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya Today - Tizen Experts | Oct 06 13:51 | |
| cubexyz | we're predicting 12 hours of rain and an immiment upgrade: | Oct 06 15:13 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kcci-news-time-for-windows-10.jpg | Oct 06 15:13 |
| cubexyz | imminent, learn to spell | Oct 06 15:14 |
| cubexyz | a lot of people just don't have control of their computers | Oct 06 15:18 |
| cubexyz | they don't know anything about the BIOS, they sometimes can't even load an alternative OS, windows 10 can just barf out messages whenever it wants | Oct 06 15:19 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows10-download.png | Oct 06 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: On a positive side, it does make a message %). | Oct 06 15:21 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpg | Oct 06 15:26 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/779nV | Oct 06 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | New AI Is Capable of Beating Humans At Doom - Slashdot | Oct 06 15:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784013102299906049 | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux With | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review https://t.co/j9WkGdCOzX | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.itechpost.com) | Oct 06 15:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itechpost.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux With Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review : Tech : iTech Post | Oct 06 15:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039396999782400 | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora, | Oct 06 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systemd.conf https://t.co/PEtNeH8DxX | Oct 06 15:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora, systemd.conf | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:35 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/784039278070431745 | Oct 06 15:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bigonbe: @schestowitz Forkbomb command is even smaller than that... | Oct 06 15:42 | |
| schestowitz | I was thinking of that all along ;-) | Oct 06 15:42 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I linked to your server | Oct 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | and now it's not accessible. "haha" indeed... | Oct 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | I cannot open | Oct 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | [15:26] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpg | Oct 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | oh, wait, now it's moving super-slowrly | Oct 06 15:46 |
| schestowitz | before that it just timed out | Oct 06 15:46 |
| cubexyz | overload | Oct 06 15:46 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: maybe add a caching layer? | Oct 06 15:46 |
| cubexyz | should be OK now but I'll look into it | Oct 06 15:47 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: ok, cheers | Oct 06 15:48 |
| schestowitz | thanks for logging the channels also | Oct 06 15:48 |
| cubexyz | np :) | Oct 06 15:48 |
| schestowitz | I'll need that some time later, put that on freeze while EPO is spying | Oct 06 15:48 |
| schestowitz | I think Researcher- might be a bot of theirs | Oct 06 15:48 |
| schestowitz | but not sure, just a theory | Oct 06 15:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/wSIpQ1htQu | Oct 06 15:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Russia's Nyet to Proprietary Software | Oct 06 15:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux is a new frontier for young developer | Oct 06 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/reR6BEizDZ (opensource.com) | Oct 06 16:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Linux Story: Building a custom Linux distro | Opensource.com | Oct 06 16:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | A general guide for the best practices of buying Linux | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | games https://t.co/VtCFPAEIDZ (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 16:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Shadow Warrior 2 may not come to Linux after all, it's | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | getting a bit confusing https://t.co/orHHfifgNl | Oct 06 16:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048895076790273 | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCN | Oct 06 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 1.0/1.1 GPUs https://t.co/ABRS6oBX1q (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 16:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCN 1.0/1.1 GPUs - Phoronix | Oct 06 16:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784049407138365440 | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BUTCHER from Transhuman Design releases with day-1 Linux | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support, it's brutal https://t.co/cOMGaINMZO | Oct 06 16:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 Kernel | Oct 06 16:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784051178950782977 | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More changes in Linux 4.9 https://t.co/wJtMnsgwEs | Oct 06 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/GZgh022E44 | Oct 06 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sound Updates For Linux 4.9: Skylake Audio Still Being Tuned - Phoronix | Oct 06 16:26 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Elan Touchsceeen Driver, GPIO Decoder For "Input" On Linux 4.9 - Phoronix | Oct 06 16:26 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So what exactly are the consequences? - Imgur | Oct 06 17:37 | |
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| cubexyz | this one might upset the kiddies: | Oct 06 17:50 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/mrs-potato-head-bsod.jpg | Oct 06 17:50 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Oct 06 17:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 17:53 |
| cubexyz | last one for today I promise: | Oct 06 18:01 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/mr-peanut-bsod.jpg | Oct 06 18:01 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 06 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah... | Oct 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp12c3-IL-I | Oct 06 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Spherical Droste Effect, with added twist and recursion. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/puo6y ] | Oct 06 19:23 | |
| XFaCE | [13:07:49]<MinceR> there goes the 'branding'... | Oct 06 19:33 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 06 19:33 |
| schestowitz | but whose? | Oct 06 19:33 |
| XFaCE | I've been keeping track of the systemd stupidity via an excellent threat at Gentoo Forums | Oct 06 19:33 |
| XFaCE | it's depressing | Oct 06 19:33 |
| MinceR | gnome's | Oct 06 19:34 |
| XFaCE | *thread | Oct 06 19:34 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: same difference at this point | Oct 06 19:34 |
| XFaCE | it's all related | Oct 06 19:34 |
| XFaCE | and has some level of collusion | Oct 06 19:34 |
| schestowitz | systemd not a hard req for gnome? | Oct 06 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes explained to me recently it's still somehow possible to avoid it | Oct 06 19:35 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: that seems to be in flux | Oct 06 19:35 |
| schestowitz | but not for long, or not simply | Oct 06 19:35 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Funtoo has standalone Gnome | Oct 06 19:35 |
| schestowitz | so then there's just one of each: init system, network system etc. | Oct 06 19:35 |
| XFaCE | by extension Gentoo to | Oct 06 19:35 |
| XFaCE | o | Oct 06 19:35 |
| schestowitz | and systemd expects app devs to rewrite their apps to cope with systemd apis | Oct 06 19:36 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: BTW, reading up it seems Gentoo has a systemd dev who develops the main alternative to systemd too | Oct 06 19:36 |
| XFaCE | openrc | Oct 06 19:36 |
| schestowitz | so that'll be the deal breaker | Oct 06 19:36 |
| schestowitz | as the apps are not even strictly tied to gnome itself (the shell) | Oct 06 19:36 |
| XFaCE | and for the past few years has been breaking openrc with unnecessary changes | Oct 06 19:36 |
| XFaCE | and is able to do this with impunity | Oct 06 19:37 |
| XFaCE | and no consequence | Oct 06 19:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I assume you saw that announcement about multiple versions of GTK4+ to be installed on one computer to help fix compatibility? | Oct 06 19:37 |
| XFaCE | how windows of them | Oct 06 19:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: so if you have an application that needs 4.2, and you have 4.6, you will have both versions installed | Oct 06 19:39 |
| XFaCE | and increased the number of versions for every GTK application on your computers | Oct 06 19:39 |
| XFaCE | *increase | Oct 06 19:40 |
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| MinceR | 06 203513 < schestowitz> systemd not a hard req for gnome? | Oct 06 19:45 |
| MinceR | it is, but funtoo/gentoo have patches to fix it | Oct 06 19:45 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd | Oct 06 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd: GNOME Without Systemd | Oct 06 19:46 | |
| MinceR | >systemd is a hard run time dependency for basic functionality | Oct 06 19:46 |
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| MinceR | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161005/15280135720/prominent-pro-patent-judge-issues-opinion-declaring-all-software-patents-bad.shtml | Oct 06 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prominent Pro-Patent Judge Issues Opinion Declaring All Software Patents Bad | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/puobt ] | Oct 06 19:49 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I prefer another alternative Gnome project, called Xfce :3 | Oct 06 19:54 |
| MinceR | i didn't know that was a gnome project | Oct 06 19:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: it's a joke | Oct 06 19:54 |
| MinceR | i like fvwm with xfce4-panel and xfce4-power-manager | Oct 06 19:55 |
| XFaCE | as in, the better alternative is to not run Gnome at all :P | Oct 06 19:55 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 06 19:55 |
| MinceR | in that case, i agree | Oct 06 19:55 |
| XFaCE | espcially if I have to waste time with "extensions" | Oct 06 19:55 |
| XFaCE | compare to Xfce, where the "extensions" are just additional applications that augment an ALREADY complete DE | Oct 06 19:56 |
| XFaCE | *AUGMENT* | Oct 06 19:56 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 19:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks, missed this link | Oct 06 19:58 |
| MinceR | yw | Oct 06 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/okertbrian/status/784114091342213120 | Oct 06 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@okertbrian: @schestowitz @DrJillStein that one is hard to buy. | Oct 06 20:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/fuZLzbV | Oct 06 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You're not supposed to report yourself, silly - Imgur | Oct 06 21:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784118663397908480 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Remix OS Brings Android For PC https://t.co/vFuSCiA1iM | Oct 06 21:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remix OS Brings Android For PC - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 06 21:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124138097037312 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/7mKsU9TyvP | Oct 06 21:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124139355328512 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvB | Oct 06 21:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124141033009152 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits? | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HbXzU629hN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 21:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits? | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124142337400832 | Oct 06 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security Tips | Oct 06 21:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security Tips | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124143486631936 | Oct 06 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/GXL0Nhp0wU | Oct 06 21:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124182216970240 | Oct 06 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 | Oct 06 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rrfyTPHtRn (dot.kde.org) | Oct 06 21:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 | KDE.news | Oct 06 21:13 | |
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| zoobab | I love Gene Quinn | Oct 06 21:15 |
| zoobab | http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/10/06/judge-mayer-step-down-federal-circuit/id=73567/ | Oct 06 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It is time for Judge Mayer to Step Down from the Federal Circuit - IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law [ http://ur1.ca/puorl ] | Oct 06 21:15 | |
| MinceR | it hurts gene quinn's butt, as it should | Oct 06 21:24 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dXhjM9W.gifv | Oct 06 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Deer Loves Leaf Blower | Oct 06 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Marked_By_Rage favourited 'Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvB' | Oct 06 21:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784131642248011776 | Oct 06 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu | Oct 06 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org) | Oct 06 21:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu Linux | Techrights | Oct 06 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: he shoots his own foot | Oct 06 21:57 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: the headline is a lie | Oct 06 21:57 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: will respond to it soon | Oct 06 21:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: cute video... | Oct 06 22:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe the rich people think, "oohh, deer, it's delocious!" | Oct 06 22:01 |
| MinceR | not only the rich people do | Oct 06 22:01 |
| schestowitz | depends where | Oct 06 22:02 |
| schestowitz | in some places it's more "exotic" a menu item | Oct 06 22:02 |
| MinceR | and exotic menu items can't be good? :> | Oct 06 22:04 |
| schestowitz | expensive | Oct 06 22:10 |
| schestowitz | flown in | Oct 06 22:10 |
| schestowitz | we're not burning fossil fuels to transport dead animals for rich people's restaurants | Oct 06 22:11 |
| schestowitz | "not so bright folks, not so bright.."-Carlin | Oct 06 22:11 |
| MinceR | you're not? :> | Oct 06 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784134127763202048 | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org) | Oct 06 22:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784140028972822528 | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co) | Oct 06 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek | Oct 06 22:16 | |
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| MinceR | it's not like we produce much food inside cities | Oct 06 22:18 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/apples_software_may_not_be_so_terrible/ | Oct 06 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Is Apple's software getting worse or what? • The Register | Oct 06 22:27 | |
| DaemonFC | "Developer Marco Arment took Apple to task early last year, arguing that OS X (recently rebranded macOS) is full of embarrassing bugs and that the company is trying to do too much on unrealistic deadlines. | Oct 06 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Arment subsequently disavowed his post because of the widespread media attention it received. But there was blood in the water and the feeding frenzy has continued at Apple's expense, at least in part because controversy, manufactured or not, drives online traffic." | Oct 06 22:27 |
| MinceR | it can get worse? | Oct 06 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | In other words, Apple probably threatened to jam up his apps in the "approval process" and start kicking them back for all sorts of reasons, so he shut up and walked it back. | Oct 06 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The fact that there is suddenly all kinds of malware and ransomware for Macs is something they've been trying to sweep under the rug. | Oct 06 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | They can't blacklist it fast enough. By the time Apple responds, there's already another variant. | Oct 06 22:30 |
| MinceR | suddenly? | Oct 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Shortly thereafter, Apple executives Eddy Cue, SVP of internet software and services, and Craig Federighi, SVP of software engineering, responded to Mossberg's complaints in an interview with Daring Fireball's John Gruber. About 25 minutes in, Federighi said, "I know our core software quality has improved over the last five years. Improved significantly." And he noted that with regard to software quality, "There's nothing we care about more." | Oct 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | The Register asked Apple to provide some software quality metrics – the company gets crash reports from millions of its customers who opt in, and it has internal processes for assessing the quality of its engineering work. But Apple did not respond. | Oct 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Haha | Oct 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | No comment. | Oct 06 22:32 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/google_faces_age_discrimination_suit/ | Oct 06 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Google 'screwed over' its non-millennials – now they can all fight back • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup46 ] | Oct 06 22:33 | |
| stites | The greatest expansion in what software is patentable occurred when Judge Mayer was chief judge of the USCAFC. Judge Mayer oversaw the creation of software patents. Now Judge Mayer has written an opinion which fully agrees with the points made by any of the anti-software patent people, including me. There is a very good explanation of both the legalities and politics of Judge Mayer's ruling in te3chdirt. https://www.techdir | Oct 06 22:33 |
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| DaemonFC | Intel does this too. They drop workers who turn 40. | Oct 06 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/early_indications_show_uk_favouring_hard_brexit_says_expert/ | Oct 06 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Early indications show UK favouring 'hard Brexit', says expert • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup4i ] | Oct 06 22:35 | |
| DaemonFC | "Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal" | Oct 06 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's likely to harm their economy much worse than the benefits it brings. | Oct 06 22:35 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Oct 06 22:36 |
| razielle_tzu | we're fucked | Oct 06 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | They are heavily reliant on agricultural imports, so the shock at the grocery register is going to be pretty bad if the tariffs hit. | Oct 06 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, they could start importing things from the US, to some extent. | Oct 06 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | We have surpluses on certain items to the point that it is triggering government buying to keep prices stable. | Oct 06 22:37 |
| razielle_tzu | we could... | Oct 06 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | The UK is already buying up coal that is being mined in Illinois that doesn't meet US clean air laws. | Oct 06 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | (Which just means that it gets burned somewhere else while we pretend that we don't share an atmosphere.) | Oct 06 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the high sulfur content means that much of the acid rain that it results in will affect the UK and surrounding countries. | Oct 06 22:39 |
| razielle_tzu | i know :/ | Oct 06 22:39 |
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| DaemonFC | There's just something about English-speaking countries and widespread denial of global warming and other environmental problems. | Oct 06 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | I ride past an old nuclear powere plant in Zion on the Metra train now and then. | Oct 06 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Some idiot inserted the control rods too far into one of the reactors back in the late 90s and accidentally shut it down, then tried to bring it back up too quickly without following procedure. | Oct 06 22:41 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/zUAtucP | Oct 06 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The latest version o - Imgur | Oct 06 22:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Ended up doing a ton of damage to the generators. | Oct 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | The other one was down for refueling. | Oct 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | ComEd came in, decided that their license would be up in a little over another decade, and decided that it would cost less to shut the plant down immediately. | Oct 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | They might have gotten an extension, but they might have spent hundreds of millions of dollars fixing the plant and then not getting a new license. | Oct 06 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | So they buried the reactor waste on-site, a few hundred feet from Lake Michigan. | Oct 06 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/784140168500350976 | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Soundtoxin new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co) | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek | Oct 06 22:44 | |
| DaemonFC | And then they started tearing down the facility. They sent a bunch of stuff to be stored or incinerated in Nevada. | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784146614516649984 | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wrapping up Outreachy https://t.co/tTOQ4A4G3v | Oct 06 22:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-renatagegaj.wordpress.com | Wrapping up Outreachy | Renata's Blog | Oct 06 22:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147218479484928 | Oct 06 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/PUkfOFhSma | Oct 06 22:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Now there are armed guards and vehicle barricades, and all that good stuff. | Oct 06 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | They sold the license off to another company along with a bunch of decommissioning money they raised by tacking it on to Illinois power bills. | Oct 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Now the money is almost gone, the decommissioning is not on schedule, and the company will probably go bankrupt. The state or federal governments will have to get involved, meaning taxpayer money. | Oct 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | All of this over some electricity that was used up decades ago. | Oct 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, it makes me wonder what that technician is doing these days. | Oct 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Interviewer: "So what did you do at your last job?" | Oct 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think "I destroyed a nuclear power plant." is going to be a good answer. | Oct 06 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Congress won't pick a permanent storage site for nuclear waste, so we have all of these decommissioned facilities storing it on site with armed guards around it. | Oct 06 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | It will only get worse. | Oct 06 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Add on top of that, that we have all of these reactors going that were designed in the 60s and put into service in the 60s and 70s getting license extensions, and we don't even really know if that's safe. | Oct 06 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now, some of these are sitting near fault lines, in Tornado Alley, and in areas where a hurricane could even hit them. | Oct 06 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised that nothing has happened since Three Mile Island to be honest. | Oct 06 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147219624529921 | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bugs and Security https://t.co/xxy1zIxfZN | Oct 06 22:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bugs and Security | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147220845125632 | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Server Administration https://t.co/pLRqhYR351 | Oct 06 22:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server Administration | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147222887665664 | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/X12NIoEBTh | Oct 06 22:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147224196284417 | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LiJkWbDFAi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Tux Machines | Oct 06 22:54 | |
| MinceR | >"I just need things that work, and that I can rely on working," he lamented. "I say this with the utmost regret, sadness, and no small sense of betrayal: Apple doesn't seem to make those things anymore." | Oct 06 22:55 |
| MinceR | good morning, if crApple ever did that, they stopped decades ago | Oct 06 22:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/784148982968836100 | Oct 06 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: come on, it's obvious: *jam* https://t.co/qj60owZ1w9 | Oct 06 22:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal" https://t.co/pPY9QzhJw4 #uk #brexit | Oct 06 22:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Many of the malware attacks on Windowws have historically taken advantage of people who had updates turned off. | Oct 06 22:59 |
| MinceR | now m$ takes advantage of people who have updates turned on | Oct 06 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | There'd be a new major piece of malware spreading and it would turn out that Microsoft had actually patched the vulnerability it was using months ago. | Oct 06 23:00 |
| MinceR | using m$ products is not the solution, regardless of settings | Oct 06 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Apple recently patched abbout 90 security holes at once. | Oct 06 23:01 |
| MinceR | how many did they open at the same time? | Oct 06 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | They just let them pile up for months before fixing them. That's probably where so much of this malware is coming from. | Oct 06 23:01 |
| MinceR | crApple even lets upstream fixes pile up for months before delivering them | Oct 06 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the majority of the fixes in Webkit come from Google, Opera, Vivaldi, KDE, GNOME, etc. | Oct 06 23:03 |
| MinceR | (in BIND, for example) | Oct 06 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/microsoft_silent_outlookcom_woes/ | Oct 06 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Never explain, never apologize: Microsoft silent on Outlook.com email server grief • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupa6 ] | Oct 06 23:03 | |
| DaemonFC | Who uses ISP email> | Oct 06 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | If you leave, they delete your email account. | Oct 06 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/can_facebook_influence_an_election_result/ | Oct 06 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Can Facebook influence an election result? • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupab ] | Oct 06 23:04 | |
| DaemonFC | One reason why Hillary Clinton will win. | Oct 06 23:04 |
| MinceR | well, at least not golden dawnald | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook will probably alert mostly Clinton supporters to go vote. | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, John and I went to vote yesterday. | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Clinton | Oct 06 23:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for Democrats on most of the ballot. | Oct 06 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | There were some offices where it was Democrats vs. Greens with no Republican, so I voted for the Greens there. | Oct 06 23:06 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | I voted to remove about 40 judges from the bench. | Oct 06 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | To eliminate the Cook County Recorder of Deeds. To give workers a minimum of 40 hours paid sick leave. To create a constitutional requirement to use transportation-related taxes for transportation projects. | Oct 06 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Also for harsher sentencing for gun traffickers, people who illegally possess guns, and people who commit crimes with a gun. | Oct 06 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It was a hell of a printout at the end. | Oct 06 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | That's not even half of what we were voting on. :P | Oct 06 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like judges in general. To make things worse, they get lifetime appointments to the bench. So you have judges that have been there since the 60s and 70s. | Oct 06 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | Time for some new ones. I doubt they'll get any of them off the bench though. That's the part of the ballot where people go "Gee, I don't know." and either don't vote or vote yes on keeping all of them. | Oct 06 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | I just can't see how someone who has the worldview that it's still the 1970s is supposed to rule on some of these cases that they are getting. | Oct 06 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | They should get 20 years on the bench and then go back into private practice or something. | Oct 06 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | We're asking people who didn't have a computer until they were in their 40s and who don't know the difference between a Mac and a PC to rule if Facebook's photo tagging violates the biometric security law. | Oct 06 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Then to make things better, you get jurors who are plumbers, nursing assistants, and stockboys at Walmart deciding the case. | Oct 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | And the lawyers aren't allowed to explain what the law says. | Oct 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz keeps writing about East Texas. | Oct 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's what's happing. | Oct 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | The article says, | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook deployed the button in a massive experiment in the 2010 US congressional elections. | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Versions of the button, or no button at all, were shown to 61 million people in a joint study of the University of California, San Diego, with Facebook data scientists. | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | They used voting records to determine the button’s impact on real-world voting. It turns out the button’s call to action increased the total vote count by 340,000 votes. | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | ... | Oct 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | But who are those 340,000 extra voters, and why did Facebook poke them? | Oct 06 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | "t cites the example of the 2000 US presidential race, in which George W Bush beat Al Gore in Florida by a mere 537 votes. Had Gore carried Florida he would have won the presidential election." | Oct 06 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Officially, that's what happened. | Oct 06 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Republicans in the state government and on the US Supreme Court stopped the recount. | Oct 06 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | So it was 537, give or take some tens of thousands that got sent to the shredding machines. | Oct 06 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Facebook could therefore deploy the “I Voted” tool selectively only for supporters of candidates or political parties of its choosing, thereby amplifying only their votes. | Oct 06 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | This, it should be stated, would be legal, even if done covertly." | Oct 06 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | "But let’s assume that Facebook would not be willing to take such a risk." | Oct 06 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Let us assume no such thing. They already got caught burying news from conservative news sites. | Oct 06 23:19 |
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| DaemonFC | As far as the 2010 election goes, I doubt Facebook made significant changes to what the outcome would have been. | Oct 06 23:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784152859726245888 | Oct 06 23:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz They're at it in this country, too. | Oct 06 23:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Only about 12% of the elections for US House seats are truly competitive. The state parties have drawn districts around the voters (gerrymandering) to get their desired result for the district election very nearly all of the time. | Oct 06 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois is pretty funny, actually, when you look at the districts. | Oct 06 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Chicago has half of the districts, and then you get districts like that one downstate that's nearly 20% of the land area of the state by itself, and represented by a Republican that goes on Facebook to rant that we're doomed because the end times are coming and we've pissed God off. | Oct 06 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats drew the districts for Illinois, so they caged off a ton of Republican voters who get one representative in that district. | Oct 06 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised there was even a Republican on my ballot for Congress this year. This district is D+24. :P | Oct 06 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | https://ballotpedia.org/Illinois%27_2nd_Congressional_District | Oct 06 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ballotpedia.org | Illinois' 2nd Congressional District - Ballotpedia | Oct 06 23:29 | |
| DaemonFC | In the last election, the Democrat got 78.5% of the vote. | Oct 06 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Is this how elections are in Hungary? | Oct 06 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | They write the election laws so it's impossible to get rid of them no matter how you vote? | Oct 06 23:30 |
| MinceR | no, it's different | Oct 06 23:31 |
| MinceR | the usa has a 2-party system | Oct 06 23:31 |
| MinceR | hungary has a 1-party system | Oct 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz | us is a 1.5-party system ;-) | Oct 06 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://gizmodo.com/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-1771012990 | Oct 06 23:32 |
| schestowitz | 0.5 overlaps ;-) | Oct 06 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Facebook Employees Asked Mark Zuckerberg If They Should Try to Stop a Donald Trump Presidency [ http://ur1.ca/pupfl ] | Oct 06 23:32 | |
| DaemonFC | “I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as ‘others,’” Zuckerberg said, never referring to Trump by name. “I hear them calling for blocking free expression, for slowing immigration, for reducing trade, and in some cases, even for cutting access to the internet.” | Oct 06 23:32 |
| MinceR | fidesz/kdnp rewrote the election laws so they can get 2/3 of the seats in the parliament even if they get a minority of the votes | Oct 06 23:32 |
| MinceR | and put in more ways they can game the system | Oct 06 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook does block free expression. You piss a few people off, they go crying to Facebook, your account gets banned for 3 days. | Oct 06 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I've had it happen a few times. | Oct 06 23:33 |
| MinceR | there are rumors that they're planning to retroactively make the last (failed) referendum valid | Oct 06 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That's worse than it is here. | Oct 06 23:33 |
| MinceR | no shit | Oct 06 23:33 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever again | Oct 06 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats would have to get 58% of the total US House vote to be sure to get 50% of the seats. | Oct 06 23:33 |
| MinceR | also tell everyone else the same | Oct 06 23:33 |
| schestowitz | [23:33] <MinceR> DaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever again | Oct 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | + | Oct 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | 1 | Oct 06 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook is always looking for ways to break Facebook customization browser extensions. | Oct 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | i helped others delete their account too | Oct 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz | does fb still use b0ng? | Oct 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, they say that there's a feature in their Messenger apps for iOS and Android now that let you have a private conversation, end-to-end encryption, self-destruct messages, etc. | Oct 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Claim FB can't even read them. | Oct 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz | e.g. for search, translations? | Oct 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It has all of those "What about the children!?" people up in arms. | Oct 06 23:35 |
| MinceR | don't trust dFB with that either | Oct 06 23:35 |
| MinceR | "they trust me" | Oct 06 23:35 |
| MinceR | "dumb fucks" | Oct 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz | in the ears | Oct 06 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | So I posted to their walls "People shouldn't trust Facebook. They should use uTox for a private conversation.". | Oct 06 23:35 |
| MinceR | an alleged end-to-end encrypted communication software is worthless if it isn't free software | Oct 06 23:36 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 06 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing you should say on Facebook Messenger is "If you want a private conversation, meet me on uTox.". | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | they take the private keys | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | I reckon | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | same thing I suppose apple does | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | but it's 'cloud' and proprietary, so FBI will say, "use it, it's safe"... | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | e2e | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | with us as the ends' 'backup' | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | wink wink | Oct 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784159115706830848 | Oct 06 23:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz @glynmoody @rj_gallagher Glyn is absolutely fearless! | Oct 06 23:50 | |
| schestowitz | he has nothing to hide [sarcasm /] | Oct 06 23:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SamSamK007/status/784163944021815296 | Oct 06 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SamSamK007: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @HillaryClinton https://t.co/wEENZED9gh | Oct 06 23:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks like someont polled the Illinois Transportation Lockbox Amendment and "Yes" is at 80%. | Oct 07 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | It should easily pass. (We voted yes.) | Oct 07 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody trusts the legislature to stop raiding transportation funds and diverting it to other things. | Oct 07 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that I'm not the only one who gets mad that I'm paying hundreds of dollars in transportation taxes each year and every time I turn down another road I hit a pothole. | Oct 07 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | With any luck, we'll also get a new Comptroller and that puppet of Governor Rauner who is funding his priorities and starving out things like Medicaid has to leave. | Oct 07 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | The state never has enough money to pay its bills, so they fund priorities of the Republican Party and tell everyone else to wait. | Oct 07 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Rauner has managed to inflict a lot of damage on transportation so far. | Oct 07 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | He impounded the money that Metra was going to use to buy new passenger rail cars. Now they're going to have to keep the ones they have rolling. Many were overdue for replacement 16 years ago. | Oct 07 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | So the lockbox amendment is a big "fuck you" to him. | Oct 07 00:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Brad_Kayl/status/784165805353164805 | Oct 07 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brad_Kayl: @schestowitz None of my Ubuntu machines can connect, but my Windows partition magically works just fine. Hm.... #DeletingMyAccount | Oct 07 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | Outlook | Oct 07 00:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: your url | Oct 07 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Outlook isn't very reliable. | Oct 07 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | A few years back, thye broke it in their own web browser and told people to use Chrome for a while. :) | Oct 07 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Oct 07 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Have to put a new sticker on my windshield before the $200 parking tickets start rolling in. :P | Oct 07 00:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @ender74dev http://twitter.com/ender74dev/status/784164646504792066 | Oct 07 00:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software in a Box Daily wurde soeben publiziert! | Oct 07 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DNUNwz7bi6 (paper.li) Vielen Dank an | Oct 07 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @avazquezmendez @phil_taylor_iw #devops | Oct 07 00:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Software in a Box Daily | Oct 07 00:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784168421114146816 | Oct 07 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/89EOCSlj1g | Oct 07 00:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 00:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 07 00:16 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7936187 | Oct 07 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk https://electrek.co/2016/10/06/tesla-updated-browser-linux-os-december-says-musk/ | Oct 07 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Why does a car need a web browser?" | Oct 07 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek [ http://ur1.ca/pupvv ] | Oct 07 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | not to play pokemon go, that's for sure | Oct 07 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, People are paying Uber drivers to take them Pokemon hunting. | Oct 07 01:11 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz | waste of fuel | Oct 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz | and time | Oct 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz | facebook was mostly a waste of time | Oct 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz | at least that stupid games makes some people walk around rather than watch tv all day | Oct 07 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Hillary Clinton's lead is expanding in the polls. | Oct 07 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Donald Trump is going to have to convince a lot of people to vote for him over the next 33 days, and many states have voting going on now. | Oct 07 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | So it doesn't look likely. | Oct 07 01:18 |
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| cubexyz | ok, re-examining df.c from unix v5, should be interesting | Oct 07 01:41 |
| cubexyz | df | Oct 07 01:55 |
| cubexyz | oops | Oct 07 01:55 |
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| cubexyz | reporting used and available blocks would be nice | Oct 07 02:06 |
| cubexyz | you might be wondering if v6 and v7 did that | Oct 07 02:07 |
| cubexyz | they did not | Oct 07 02:09 |
| cubexyz | the Unix v8 df command was much better | Oct 07 02:11 |
| cubexyz | too bad qmc didn't bother improving df | Oct 07 02:22 |
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| cubexyz | evidently Ampex Corp made a new improved df but the source code wasn't recovered | Oct 07 02:29 |
| cubexyz | ah, too tired to dig into it now | Oct 07 02:32 |
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| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/lenovo-in-talks-to-buy-fujitsus-loss-making-pc-business/ | Oct 07 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lenovo in talks to buy Fujitsu’s loss-making PC business | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqdz ] | Oct 07 02:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo is taking over what's left of Fujitsu's PC business. | Oct 07 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo is promising to keep existing factories and jobs, but eventually most will be closed/fired. | Oct 07 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | When it took over Motorola it let people keep their jobs, but not for very long. | Oct 07 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/cops-arrest-hundreds-of-people-allegedly-involved-in-irs-phone-scam/ | Oct 07 02:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Cops arrest hundreds of people allegedly involved in IRS phone scam | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqec ] | Oct 07 02:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/784186274332676097 | Oct 07 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The Arch Terminal Desktop https://t.co/iK7xu5qqZR | Oct 07 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @fabiocs (www.lifehacker.co.in) | Oct 07 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.co.in | The Arch Terminal Desktop | Life Hacker India | Oct 07 02:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784189450410528769 | Oct 07 02:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 07 02:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209111374180352 | Oct 07 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | First pfSense 2.3.2 Update Adds OpenSSL Security Fixes to | Oct 07 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the BSD-Based Firewall https://t.co/h2hloKxAkJ | Oct 07 02:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First pfSense 2.3.2 Update Adds OpenSSL Security Fixes to the BSD-Based Firewall | Tux Machines | Oct 07 02:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209112758308864 | Oct 07 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for | Oct 07 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/qRGlY6odjE | Oct 07 02:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Oct 07 02:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209113831964672 | Oct 07 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source IT pros are in high-demand in Europe | Oct 07 02:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source IT pros are in high-demand in Europe | Tux Machines | Oct 07 02:50 | |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/10/gears-of-war-4-the-next-gen-is-now-if-youre-on-windows-10-at-least/ | Oct 07 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Gears of War 4: The next gen is now—if you’re on Windows 10, at least | Ars Technica | Oct 07 02:56 | |
| DaemonFC | If you use Intel graphics, you need their beta driver, or your computer will crash when you load the game. | Oct 07 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | "Gears of War 4's campaign mode might be one of the worst I've played in years." | Oct 07 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | Gears of War fell off a pretty steep cliff after the first one. | Oct 07 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | And it was really hard to play the campaign without a second player in some spots on the first game. | Oct 07 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft marketed the Xbox One as a console capable of 4K, but the Gears of War 4 game is locked to 1080p and 30 fps. | Oct 07 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | This isn't the first time they fudged. | Oct 07 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | Halo 3 on the XBOX 360 wasn't even rendered at 720p. It just upscaled. | Oct 07 03:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209114826100737 | Oct 07 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 Developer | Oct 07 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition Laptop in US & EU https://t.co/gM1HQW28fW | Oct 07 03:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 Developer Edition Laptop in US & EU | Tux Machines | Oct 07 03:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209116185042944 | Oct 07 03:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel | Oct 07 03:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keyring Non-Containable https://t.co/Vp6kaD1Tbj | Oct 07 03:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 03:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel Keyring Non-Containable | Tux Machines | Oct 07 03:18 | |
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| Tervy | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/you_know_that_ridiculously_expensive_oculus_rift_yeah_it_just_got_worse/ about the custom headphonejacks | Oct 07 11:42 |
| Tervy | why.jpg | Oct 07 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Y'know that ridiculously expensive Oculus Rift? Yeah, it just got worse • The Register | Oct 07 11:42 | |
| schestowitz | did anyone here try it? | Oct 07 11:52 |
| schestowitz | I tried something similar, made me have a headache quickly | Oct 07 11:52 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/rGJnI | Oct 07 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-History lesson: Katana myths dispelled - Album on Imgur | Oct 07 12:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784305262979010560 | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/IgwRkRsjlN | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784309277359902720 | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mediatek https://t.co/xL4KRT6e0z (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with Mediatek - Tizen Experts | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352452531392512 | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Encrypt Certificates https://t.co/BAEP1TQTwT | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt Certificates | Oct 07 12:20 | |
| MinceR | dnf/yum/rpm quality package management >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/ | Oct 07 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/ ) | Oct 07 12:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352707880579074 | Oct 07 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming Soon | Oct 07 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Ubuntu MATE 16.04 https://t.co/ksMiuFOkUF | Oct 07 12:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming Soon to Ubuntu MATE 16.04 | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353159363919872 | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/SLhd2vetxz | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353559626276864 | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keyring Non-Containable https://t.co/yczrHCQpQ2 | Oct 07 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 12:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel Keyring Non-Containable | Oct 07 12:28 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's a good thing red hat has fedora to experiment on ;-) | Oct 07 12:29 |
| schestowitz | so as not to affect their paying customers | Oct 07 12:29 |
| MinceR | except they deploy all their halfbaked shit to rHELL too | Oct 07 12:31 |
| MinceR | like systemd | Oct 07 12:31 |
| MinceR | someone needs to tell them that letting crappy software rot and fester for a year doesn't magically make it stable | Oct 07 12:31 |
| MinceR | yum was garbage as well | Oct 07 12:31 |
| MinceR | and there's no indication that dnf is any better | Oct 07 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784354553869336576 | Oct 07 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It | Oct 07 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Launches on October 13 https://t.co/Ew82eltFfW | Oct 07 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It Launches on October 13 | Oct 07 12:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @slackolinux retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt...' | Oct 07 12:33 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch. The end result that guys point of view https://solettaproject.org/ or systemd | Oct 07 13:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 07 13:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784356019925291008 | Oct 07 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tomb Raider for Linux is currently super cheap on the | Oct 07 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feral store https://t.co/mMoElBsZc4 | Oct 07 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 07 13:54 |
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| MinceR | http://jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu/2012/08/julius-caesar-wally-wood-mad-monday.html | Oct 07 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu | Inside Jeff Overturf's Head: "Julius Caesar!" - Wally Wood - Mad Monday! [ http://ur1.ca/puupt ] | Oct 07 19:45 | |
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| schestowitz | [13:15] <oiaohm> MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch. The end result that guys point of view https://solettaproject.org/ or systemd | Oct 07 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 07 20:08 | |
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| schestowitz | posted a link to it the other day, maybe that's where oiaohm found it | Oct 07 20:08 |
| MinceR | more cancerd advertisement, i don't care | Oct 07 20:08 |
| MinceR | (also mixed up with some IoT advertisement) | Oct 07 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR:yes, yum I always found to be sucky compared to apt | Oct 07 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | dnf is hardly excited, the yum guy died, shortly afterwards they rebranded their packaging | Oct 07 20:09 |
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| schestowitz | [19:18] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/iHB8bgz.jpg | Oct 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz | crude | Oct 07 20:20 |
| MinceR | i don't see how | Oct 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz | not for the faint-hearted | Oct 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz | well, let's just say I won't post it publicly | Oct 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz | although there's a funny element to it | Oct 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz | I don't get the one with the tap | Oct 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz | clearly it was designed this way | Oct 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz | not as a prank | Oct 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz | maybe the world's worst plumber, my friend had experience with a few recently, one after another they messed up the bath, each time with different shoddy work | Oct 07 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ElinaBeauchamp/status/784477703621664768 | Oct 07 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ElinaBeauchamp: @yahoo is not worth anything anymore https://t.co/TdR4cBSxKP | Oct 07 20:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476402041192448 | Oct 07 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "join the Debian LEGO team in the Alioth project we | Oct 07 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | created yesterday" https://t.co/gd5jFbu41s | Oct 07 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (people.skolelinux.org) | Oct 07 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 20:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.skolelinux.org | Petter Reinholdtsen: Isenkram, Appstream and udev make life as a LEGO builder easier | Oct 07 20:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476862735056900 | Oct 07 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, Android | Oct 07 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hccZoFp3nW (www.slashgear.com) | Oct 07 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 07 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, Android - SlashGear | Oct 07 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/784479007014346752 | Oct 07 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @schestowitz @nypost That is so interesting, I think it's right colonies pay the price for colluding with state agencies | Oct 07 20:45 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ArnoldDuendis/status/784483624452186112 https://twitter.com/kempton276/status/784484224657219586 https://twitter.com/ThomasPaine5/status/784485843834576896 | Oct 07 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka malgnd by stupid,impatient ppl.wik never said oct 4 would be anything more than what it was.dummies cant read. | Oct 07 21:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kempton276: @schestowitz @wikileaks @WLTaskForce - if you decided not to release the supposed "October surprise " then just say so! Getting impatient! | Oct 07 21:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThomasPaine5: @Thomas_Drake1 @schestowitz @Sulliview And then their market cap dropped by $1 billion. | Oct 07 21:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784482038409793537 | Oct 07 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel, | Oct 07 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android OEMs, and more https://t.co/ZFMNQukgGM | Oct 07 21:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Secret Ingredient [ http://ur1.ca/puv72 ] | Oct 07 21:42 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Groundstain/status/784493921627799552 | Oct 07 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Groundstain: @schestowitz @wikileaks I did not even think about donating to them.Thanks for the suggestion. | Oct 07 21:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784491847586500608 | Oct 07 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why public libraries need to support open source | Oct 07 21:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why public libraries need to support open source | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784491848806961156 | Oct 07 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/m9s1FO1CLv | Oct 07 21:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784495394654973964 | Oct 07 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment | Oct 07 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in GNU/Linux Distros https://t.co/3Lft6QYg5m | Oct 07 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/GSYnFfAxA3 (lwn.net) | Oct 07 21:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment in GNU/Linux Distros | Oct 07 21:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784495594794516480 | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.7.7 https://t.co/axNBAh2bsT (lwn.net) | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.4.24 https://t.co/vjPVL0dgYk (lwn.net) | Oct 07 22:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784496114435297280 | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMC | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | option https://t.co/ngdHfHaOrJ (hackerboards.com) | Oct 07 22:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMC option | Oct 07 22:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784496368433893376 | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Linux pioneer Linus Torvalds prefers x86 over ARM | Oct 07 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/r4668WPj1I (www.cio.com) | Oct 07 22:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Linux pioneer Linus Torvalds prefers x86 over ARM | CIO | Oct 07 22:00 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/KMjxiYV.jpg | Oct 07 23:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784498645748113408 | Oct 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9: F2FS Gets Performance Enhancements, EXT4 Gets | Oct 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fixes https://t.co/lJl8VcaP1U (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 23:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9: F2FS Gets Performance Enhancements, EXT4 Gets Fixes - Phoronix | Oct 07 23:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784498741944446977 | Oct 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Integrated Sensor Hub (ISH) Support In Linux 4.9 | Oct 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel https://t.co/XWnzKkuYLr (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 23:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Integrated Sensor Hub (ISH) Support In Linux 4.9 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 07 23:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784503283062808577 | Oct 07 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Systemd Now Supports The RISC-V CPU Architecture | Oct 07 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hSg2I54F5G (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 23:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Systemd Now Supports The RISC-V CPU Architecture - Phoronix | Oct 07 23:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for...' | Oct 07 23:28 | |
| MinceR | >cancerd is not portable between cpu architectures | Oct 07 23:29 |
| MinceR | what a piece of shit | Oct 07 23:29 |
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| cubexyz | ok, new blog... | Oct 08 00:05 |
| cubexyz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/ | Oct 08 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Notes on Linux | Oct 08 00:05 | |
| cubexyz | Hopefully it's somewhat helpful | Oct 08 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | [03:04] <MinceR> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186 | Oct 08 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 817186 – systemd incorrectly handles virtual text terminals | Oct 08 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 2012 | Oct 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz | talk about dead horse by now.. | Oct 08 09:48 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not exactly that bug is still alive in debian stable. Reason for using backports systemd. | Oct 08 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784670318883397633 | Oct 08 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20 | Oct 08 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/mXGcWnkncU (techrights.org) | Oct 08 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20 | Techrights | Oct 08 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784694490925821952 | Oct 08 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi Mi Box Now Available in U.S.: Android TV 6.0 with | Oct 08 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4Kp60 Output for $69 | Oct 08 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | Xiaomi Mi Box Now Available in U.S.: Android TV 6.0 with 4Kp60 Output for $69 | Oct 08 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784694976768860161 | Oct 08 11:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye | Oct 08 11:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye | Oct 08 11:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784696174896873472 | Oct 08 11:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September | Oct 08 11:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yKnbjF0dlO (www.fool.com) | Oct 08 11:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September -- The Motley Fool | Oct 08 11:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784696972649299968 | Oct 08 11:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Z2 Officially Launched in Kenya | Oct 08 11:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7JAqdXia3c (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 08 11:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z2 Officially Launched in Kenya - Tizen Experts | Oct 08 11:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784697245501366272 | Oct 08 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Core 16 Beta Linux distro for PC available now -- | Oct 08 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | coming soon to Raspberry Pi https://t.co/wRoojMFxAg | Oct 08 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (betanews.com) | Oct 08 11:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Ubuntu Core 16 Beta Linux distro for PC available now -- coming soon to Raspberry Pi | Oct 08 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701109134766080 | Oct 08 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/HBUe4JuxzP | Oct 08 11:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 08 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701110955106304 | Oct 08 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen in Africa https://t.co/p9elmy7lrs | Oct 08 11:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen in Africa | Tux Machines | Oct 08 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701112657981440 | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September and More Red | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hat Financial News https://t.co/ypZaA8bs58 | Oct 08 11:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September and More Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Oct 08 11:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701113740038144 | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/V4vwEVrw2e | Oct 08 11:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Oct 08 11:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701114834837504 | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye | Oct 08 11:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye | Tux Machines | Oct 08 11:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784703267511083008 | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | From Linux https://t.co/n9scNZgqZ4 | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Oct 08 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away From Linux - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 08 11:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784703434834513920 | Oct 08 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LeEco Accidentally Reveals Phone, Android TV Lineup Ahead | Oct 08 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of U.S. Launch https://t.co/XxRLTduxfp (variety.com) | Oct 08 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LeEco to Sell Bargain-Priced Phones, Android TVs in the US (Leak) | Variety | Oct 08 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784703647137591296 | Oct 08 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX8 “eCockpit” SoC arrives, with media and IoT versions | Oct 08 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | coming https://t.co/OogI04e6HN (hackerboards.com) | Oct 08 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 08 12:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | i.MX8 "eCockpit" SoC arrives, with media and IoT versions coming | Oct 08 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784710162565259265 | Oct 08 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enlightenment's Ecore_Drm2 Library Is Working Out Well | Oct 08 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Wayland Support https://t.co/XhvM1PpA1v | Oct 08 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 08 12:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enlightenment's Ecore_Drm2 Library Is Working Out Well For Wayland Support - Phoronix | Oct 08 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/K3SARA/status/784709861871202304\ | Oct 08 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K3SARA: @schestowitz Google Chrome does the same when you sync your passwords. | Oct 08 12:09 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, an even greater evil | Oct 08 12:09 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: still CLOSED WONTFIX | Oct 08 12:41 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there was a new version of that bug in 2014 that in fact got fixed. | Oct 08 13:22 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: turned out the reason why X11 had to be vt1 also linked to why systemd would lose serial terminals. | Oct 08 13:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do note I am running systemd my X11 is on vt7 I am using Nvidia drivers and I am also using LXDM and everything works perfectly these days. | Oct 08 13:29 |
| MinceR | good for you | Oct 08 13:30 |
| MinceR | until suddenly it isn't | Oct 08 13:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that particular bug is fixed. | Oct 08 13:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you are running modern enough systemd | Oct 08 13:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do not I am running testing debian. Do the same thing on stable debian strange things do come out. | Oct 08 13:31 |
| oiaohm | not/note | Oct 08 13:31 |
| MinceR | strange things will happen to you too | Oct 08 13:31 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing since version 225 most of the strangeness stopped. | Oct 08 13:34 |
| oiaohm | I am on 231 at moment. | Oct 08 13:34 |
| oiaohm | Only strangeness left is with some wm login out and finding session does not end in logind. But that is mostly due to those wm in fact leaking processes on logout. | Oct 08 13:35 |
| MinceR | the design flaws are still there | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | and the evil politics are also still there | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | debian is still a smoldering ruin | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | but some people keep going "it hasn't blown up in my face yet, so it must be perfect" | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | enjoy your reinvented windows | Oct 08 13:36 |
| MinceR | what i don't get is that if systemd people love huge opaque hairballs with atrocious designs, why don't you just run windows | Oct 08 13:37 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing quite a few of the design flaws have in fact gone by by ok not all of them but they have been reducing. | Oct 08 13:39 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/unary http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1475593004-20161004after.png | Oct 08 13:39 |
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| MinceR | so, what are the separated major components named? where are the stable APIs between them? | Oct 08 13:39 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/libsystemd/libsystemd.sym stable API between them I guess you did not look into libsystemd .so file. Yes its versioned. 221 is where you see the sd_bus appear. | Oct 08 13:46 |
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| MinceR | so what if it's versioned? there are no minor versions | Oct 08 13:49 |
| MinceR | the whole thing churns like hell | Oct 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | That is not true. | Oct 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: look again. | Oct 08 13:49 |
| MinceR | it's amusing how you systemd people like to redefine terms like 'modular' and 'stable' to try to make this mess look good | Oct 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Not at all. | Oct 08 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Stable ABI only starts appearing in systemd at the first version in libsystemd | Oct 08 13:50 |
| MinceR | hell, even 'free software' was effectively redefine to accommodate ratcrap's microsoftian tactics | Oct 08 13:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so all versions of systemd with version numbers less than 209 have no stable ABI. | Oct 08 13:50 |
| oiaohm | This is why I said reducing. | Oct 08 13:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: churns like hell applies to the earlier version of systemd. Really its annoying how long it took systemd to get to building stable ABI. | Oct 08 13:53 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd bad ABI starts with a bad idea. kdbus ie get kdbus into kernel after that stabilised the interfaces. Not good logic. | Oct 08 13:56 |
| MinceR | let's not get started on bad ideas in how systemd started, that would last for a week | Oct 08 13:56 |
| oiaohm | Like for sure you don't want to be using systemd lower than 221 the interconnects between stuff in those versions are too much cross fingers and pray. | Oct 08 13:58 |
| oiaohm | But there are a lot of different Linux LTS versions release with systemd less than 221 | Oct 08 13:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also do note systemd has not double version any function so far because every time they have added a function to the ABI it has stayed absolutely the same. | Oct 08 14:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so systemd is getting something right these days. | Oct 08 14:03 |
| MinceR | yet debian and even rHELL released with earlier versions | Oct 08 14:04 |
| MinceR | systemd "stable" | Oct 08 14:04 |
| MinceR | systemd will get something right when it gets shut down and replaced with GNU again | Oct 08 14:04 |
| MinceR | not that it would restore my trust in the distros that touted it as "stable" | Oct 08 14:05 |
| oiaohm | The problem here is sysvinit and upstart before system are both broken. | Oct 08 14:06 |
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| MinceR | the problem here is that you're still pretending that systemd is just an init system | Oct 08 14:06 |
| MinceR | and that sysvinit and upstart are just as broken as systemd | Oct 08 14:07 |
| MinceR | and that other init systems don't even exist | Oct 08 14:07 |
| oiaohm | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I this guy and others tried all the different init systems before going systemd or writing soletta because everything was technically broken. | Oct 08 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 08 14:09 | |
| oiaohm | What is the problem for years debian, redhat everyone just kept on using sysvinit or other imported init systems from Unix. Linux kernel does a lot of things that is not Unix like at all. | Oct 08 14:10 |
| MinceR | again, implying that systemd is not broken | Oct 08 14:11 |
| MinceR | despite all evidence | Oct 08 14:11 |
| oiaohm | systemd turns out to be less broken. | Oct 08 14:11 |
| MinceR | in your dreams, maybe | Oct 08 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Not in my dreams. | Oct 08 14:11 |
| MinceR | you never studied software engineering, have you? | Oct 08 14:11 |
| oiaohm | In fact I have. | Oct 08 14:11 |
| MinceR | and you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc? | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: like that minor ddos flaw that crashes a system | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | "minor" | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | not distributed though | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | if you mean the notify thing | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: in which a systemd developer demonstrated ignorance | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | sever ignorance | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | all it takes is 1 unprivileged user | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | *severe | Oct 08 14:12 |
| oiaohm | In fact no. | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | yep | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | 08 151201 < MinceR> and you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc? | Oct 08 14:12 |
| XFaCE | but it was fixed, so this "minor" flaw is acceptable | Oct 08 14:12 |
| oiaohm | The reported dos required systemd built with debugging. | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | you know, things an init system is supposed to do | Oct 08 14:12 |
| MinceR | not run a web server as root in pid1, and shit like that | Oct 08 14:13 |
| XFaCE | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/systemd_is_not_magic_security_dust | Oct 08 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust [ http://ur1.ca/pu924 ] | Oct 08 14:13 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd does not run a web server as pid1 | Oct 08 14:13 |
| MinceR | oh, it doesn't? | Oct 08 14:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: never has. | Oct 08 14:13 |
| MinceR | that's a relief | Oct 08 14:13 |
| MinceR | then it just does a dozen other things as root in pid1 | Oct 08 14:13 |
| MinceR | like parsing untrusted input | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd is a multi process thing if a web server is kicked up it is it own pid. | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | and communicating on the network | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, except when it is not | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | No communicating on network is not in pid. | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | opps pid1 | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | not even the one that brings up a random container on your machine? | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | Lots and lots of things people claim are in systemd pid1 are not. | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | (because obviously an "init system" must do that too) | Oct 08 14:14 |
| MinceR | lots of things still are in pid1, though | Oct 08 14:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: container importing that is no pid1 never has been. | Oct 08 14:15 |
| MinceR | i suppose you're also ignoring the vulnerabilities its dns resolver adds to the system | Oct 08 14:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: dns resolver of systemd is it own process and can be disabled and does support processing dnssec where glibc default does not. | Oct 08 14:16 |
| MinceR | does dnssec help with its severe vulnerabilities? | Oct 08 14:16 |
| MinceR | good to hear there's one thing you can disable in that hairball though | Oct 08 14:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: dnssec makes it harder to spoof dns entries. | Oct 08 14:16 |
| MinceR | unlike the part that fucks up your system logs | Oct 08 14:16 |
| MinceR | ah, so you're ignoring the issues | Oct 08 14:17 |
| MinceR | classic cognitive dissonance | Oct 08 14:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I < do watch and see how much of systemd he manages to turn off. | Oct 08 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ] | Oct 08 14:17 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: he even turns off to shock horror journald completely. | Oct 08 14:18 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: " Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients."" | Oct 08 14:18 |
| MinceR | watch how much of systemd i can turn off | Oct 08 14:18 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: systemd-free.org :) | Oct 08 14:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: turns out systemd will fall back to using old school logging if journald is removed. | Oct 08 14:18 |
| MinceR | (hint: all of it) | Oct 08 14:18 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: schestowitz https://davmac.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/why-do-we-keep-building-rotten-foundations/ | Oct 08 14:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-davmac.wordpress.com | Why do we keep building rotten foundations? – Software is Crap [ http://ur1.ca/puzcd ] | Oct 08 14:19 | |
| XFaCE | "The new release of Gtk is going to be fully parallel-installable with the old one. Gtk 4 and Gtk 3 will install alongside each other in exactly the same way as Gtk 2 and Gtk 3 — separate library name, separate pkg-config name, separate header directory. You will be able to have a system that has development headers and libraries installed for each of Gtk 2, 3, 4 and 5, if you want to do that." | Oct 08 14:20 |
| XFaCE | "Meanwhile, Gtk 4.0 will not be the final stable API of what we would call “Gtk 4”. Each 6 months, the new release (Gtk 4.2, Gtk 4.4, Gtk 4.6) will break API and ABI vs. the release that came before it." | Oct 08 14:20 |
| XFaCE | "We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system" | Oct 08 14:20 |
| MinceR | i wonder if anyone other than gnome will want to use that crap | Oct 08 14:21 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I wonder how long until they rename it libgnome | Oct 08 14:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 08 14:22 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Gnome runtime? XD | Oct 08 14:22 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: the DBUS API for DNS resolution is due to the horrible reality DNS normal protocol is not design to cope with a case where you have DNS entries with and without DNSSEC at the same time. | Oct 08 14:22 |
| MinceR | lendows internal library #4324 | Oct 08 14:22 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: Ie no space in protocol to send mess yes we got X resolve but its insecure. | Oct 08 14:23 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, that would be impossible to do with a function call to a library | Oct 08 14:23 |
| MinceR | it's not like you can just add parameters | Oct 08 14:23 |
| MinceR | or use structs to pass parameters or receive results in | Oct 08 14:23 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Talking around I've learned that DBUS could have been implemented using the existing TIPC support in the Linux kernel | Oct 08 14:24 |
| XFaCE | and better too | Oct 08 14:24 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 14:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the library defines that need to be updated is for libc posix standard and gnu c have defined the library DNS functions. | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | too bad "better" is not how lendows people function | Oct 08 14:25 |
| XFaCE | but that would violate the "not invented here" doctrine | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, it's impossible to add another library or another function | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | which is why gtk also doesn't exist | Oct 08 14:25 |
| MinceR | and neither does libsystemd | Oct 08 14:25 |
| XFaCE | or or lib.* | Oct 08 14:26 |
| XFaCE | /lib.* | Oct 08 14:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: then you will complain about applications have a solid systemd dependancy. | Oct 08 14:27 |
| MinceR | no | Oct 08 14:27 |
| MinceR | this dbus fuckage is what generates a solid systemd dependency | Oct 08 14:27 |
| XFaCE | of course, there isn't a huge incentive by the sysd people to have those | Oct 08 14:27 |
| XFaCE | cough | Oct 08 14:27 |
| XFaCE | "We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system" | Oct 08 14:27 |
| XFaCE | oops | Oct 08 14:28 |
| MinceR | because only systemd is stupid enough to use dbus for things that don't need dbus and are actually more fragile with dbus | Oct 08 14:28 |
| XFaCE | " Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients." | Oct 08 14:28 |
| MinceR | remember, dbus is "designed" to require a reboot to be restarted | Oct 08 14:28 |
| MinceR | and yet we're supposed to use that crap on servers and workstations | Oct 08 14:28 |
| oiaohm | dbus was design to be posix netural in the first place leading to it not using stuff like TIPC. | Oct 08 14:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: here's another thing that should have been obvious: it's possible to implement a DNS resolver library as an independent project | Oct 08 14:29 |
| MinceR | it doesn't have to be part of systemd | Oct 08 14:29 |
| XFaCE | oiaohm: lol of course | Oct 08 14:29 |
| XFaCE | let's not use an existing STANDARD protocol | Oct 08 14:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the standard DNS resolver library format need to be updated for DNSSEC | Oct 08 14:29 |
| XFaCE | "Dual BSD/GPL licensed code" - TIPC feature | Oct 08 14:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the bit in the libc standard defines. | Oct 08 14:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: a few moments ago you said it was impossible | Oct 08 14:29 |
| MinceR | make up your mind already | Oct 08 14:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: currently impossible because those guys are stuck in a 3 year aguement so far about how in hell it should be implemented. | Oct 08 14:30 |
| MinceR | "posix neutral" as in "If developers don't force themselves into the constraints of the POSIX API, they could develop some really innovative software, like systemd shows." | Oct 08 14:30 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: well, if you don't want to understand what i'm telling you, then don't | Oct 08 14:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: DNS resolver library standard has not been updated for DNSSEC. systemd developers wasted 2 years attempting to get it updated before going the dbus route. | Oct 08 14:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lets just say that one problem leaded to a meg out of control cat fight in the old UNIX camp. | Oct 08 14:33 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Given the Gnome devs behaviour on Transmission, I'm gonna guess they went on the issue tracker and demanded rudely that their demands come first | Oct 08 14:33 |
| oiaohm | Not everything systemd does is their fault some cases there are some really stupid things going on. | Oct 08 14:35 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, because coming up with a new dbus call is somehow more acceptable than coming up with a new library call | Oct 08 14:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the arguement is currently 42 new library calls. | Oct 08 14:35 |
| MinceR | yes, stupid things like letting poettering design anything | Oct 08 14:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you cover all the random crap they are implementing. | Oct 08 14:35 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Coming up with dbus from scratch is more acceptable than using an existing standard protocol | Oct 08 14:35 |
| XFaCE | ofc | Oct 08 14:36 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: gnome always comes first, apparently | Oct 08 14:36 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: they tried the standard protocol way first only to find you have 42+ different ways to implement it all ready. | Oct 08 14:36 |
| MinceR | it's more important than other people's servers or my workstations | Oct 08 14:36 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: all incompadible. | Oct 08 14:36 |
| MinceR | and instead if picking one or coming up with their own, they made it depend on the toy known as dbus | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | lendows logic | Oct 08 14:37 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: dbus way at least you can put a wrapper on it. | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's impossible to wrap c functions | Oct 08 14:37 |
| XFaCE | a turd wrapped in gold is still a turd | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | which is why nobody ever did it | Oct 08 14:37 |
| oiaohm | XFaCE: I am not saying it not a turd. | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | yes you are | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | in so many words | Oct 08 14:37 |
| oiaohm | But its a turd formed because of a very much bigger turd. | Oct 08 14:37 |
| MinceR | in so many turds | Oct 08 14:38 |
| XFaCE | "Sure Windows is poorly conceived, but that's only cause of OS/2!" | Oct 08 14:38 |
| oiaohm | I really wish a proper dns resolver spec with dnssec mixed with non dnssec support would become agreed on then killing the systemd dbus stuff would be possible. | Oct 08 14:39 |
| XFaCE | aha, the "Windows has games" argument | Oct 08 14:40 |
| MinceR | yeah, because killing systemd lock-in is so easy | Oct 08 14:40 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Yeah, it's not like there are developers intentionally crippling certain alternatives too? | Oct 08 14:41 |
| XFaCE | *cough*Gentoo*cough* | Oct 08 14:41 |
| XFaCE | *cough*OpenRC*cough* | Oct 08 14:41 |
| XFaCE | thank goodness for Runit | Oct 08 14:42 |
| MinceR | yeah, nobody ever said things like "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call." | Oct 08 14:42 |
| oiaohm | soletta that is not systemd processes systemd unit files. | Oct 08 14:42 |
| MinceR | so it's garbage, like systemd | Oct 08 14:42 |
| MinceR | does it also silently ignore changes in unit files if the changes are incorrect, like systemd does? | Oct 08 14:42 |
| MinceR | also, soletta is for IoT, which i don't care for | Oct 08 14:43 |
| MinceR | at least until IoT zombies start DDoSing stuff i use | Oct 08 14:43 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: or the next president declares a cyberwar | Oct 08 14:43 |
| MinceR | why declare wars anymore, it's so much easier to just do what you want | Oct 08 14:43 |
| oiaohm | soletta is designed for iot so as compact as possible. Soletta does not ignore errors in unit files. | Oct 08 14:43 |
| MinceR | ignoring citizens and keeping everyone in the dark | Oct 08 14:43 |
| oiaohm | systemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider. | Oct 08 14:44 |
| MinceR | and soletta is modeled after systemd, making it the ideal target for IoT exploits | Oct 08 14:44 |
| MinceR | yeah, you can replace it with a fork of itself | Oct 08 14:44 |
| MinceR | or with a different implementation of the same braindead toxic design | Oct 08 14:44 |
| oiaohm | There is no systemd code in soletta | Oct 08 14:44 |
| XFaCE | oh it's replaceable - but by something completely incompatible | Oct 08 14:44 |
| XFaCE | which is a good thing fortunately | Oct 08 14:45 |
| MinceR | all i ever dreamed of doing is reimplementing some idiot's broken dbus APIs for the sake of compatibility | Oct 08 14:45 |
| MinceR | (and remember, dbus is garbage) | Oct 08 14:45 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: It | Oct 08 14:45 |
| XFaCE | It's like being a wine developer | Oct 08 14:45 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 08 14:46 |
| XFaCE | minus any appeal whatsoever | Oct 08 14:46 |
| MinceR | but since ratcrap is not called microsoft, they get a free pass | Oct 08 14:46 |
| MinceR | even from people who noticed the wrongdoings when m$ did them | Oct 08 14:46 |
| MinceR | i'm looking at you, Gratis Windows Foundation | Oct 08 14:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: soletta no dbus. | Oct 08 14:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: nah, those same people are now clapping over new Microsoft and the Linux subsystem | Oct 08 14:46 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 14:47 |
| XFaCE | "new" | Oct 08 14:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so how will soletta replace systemd? | Oct 08 14:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how will it satisfy the demands of gnome looking for systemd-timedated and systemd-hostnamed? | Oct 08 14:47 |
| oiaohm | I did not say soletta will in it current form be able to replace it all. Compared to attempting to transfer shell scripts between init systems vs unit files it turns out unit files are fairly bug free. | Oct 08 14:50 |
| MinceR | 08 154407 < oiaohm> systemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider. | Oct 08 14:50 |
| MinceR | looks like systemd is a lot less replaceable than you considered. | Oct 08 14:50 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: nah, the uselessd developer was just lazy | Oct 08 14:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: have you ever seen bsd rc files? | Oct 08 14:50 |
| XFaCE | amirite | Oct 08 14:50 |
| MinceR | uselessd was just a pointless fork | Oct 08 14:50 |
| MinceR | removing random bits from systemd won't fix the underlying severe design flaws | Oct 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | and neither will it fix the cult's behavior | Oct 08 14:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bsd rc files are a lot more common sense than sysvinit have been. | Oct 08 14:51 |
| XFaCE | ok, I agree oiaohm | Oct 08 14:51 |
| XFaCE | then why didn't we switch to OpenRC instead? | Oct 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, debian's and redhat's rc files being complex is not sysvinit's fault | Oct 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: because we're pretending openrc doesn't exist | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | or runit | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | it's far more to justify forcing everyone to systemd if we pretend only sysvinit and systemd exist | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | it's sysVinit or nothing | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | NOTHING | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | s/more/easier/ | Oct 08 14:52 |
| oiaohm | Openrc even today still has more crashing faults than the first systemd. | Oct 08 14:52 |
| oiaohm | So basically not ready. | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | good, you can replace it | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | actually, it's stable, unless you count post 0.13 versions | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | systemd is not ready either | Oct 08 14:52 |
| MinceR | did that stop the cultists? | Oct 08 14:52 |
| XFaCE | whereby a systemd developer has basically been sabotaging it | Oct 08 14:53 |
| MinceR | when will they get rid of that asshole? | Oct 08 14:53 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: hard to say, he's entrenched and knows how to play the bureaucratic game | Oct 08 14:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: to be correct sysvinit is based on faultly logic that a process id will never be reused leading to hacks around that. | Oct 08 14:53 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: fortunately forks are already in progress, and Funtoo exists as an alternative | Oct 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | can he also affect funtoo and other forks or only gentoo? | Oct 08 14:54 |
| XFaCE | only gentoo | Oct 08 14:54 |
| XFaCE | funtoo stopped at version 0.12 | Oct 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: still far less faulty in practice than systemd relying on a system they themselves admit does not work reliably | Oct 08 14:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: in other words, they saw the writing | Oct 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: i see | Oct 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown? | Oct 08 14:55 |
| MinceR | s/sed/ses/ | Oct 08 14:55 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: even so, there's always runit | Oct 08 14:56 |
| oiaohm | oiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown? that was fixed in 220 | Oct 08 14:56 |
| XFaCE | Void Linux uses it | Oct 08 14:56 |
| MinceR | that's great | Oct 08 14:57 |
| MinceR | too bad enterprise clients got sold 219 | Oct 08 14:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ubuntu and redhat backported the patch. | Oct 08 14:57 |
| MinceR | even in rHELL 7.2 | Oct 08 14:57 |
| oiaohm | In updates. | Oct 08 14:58 |
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| MinceR | ah, so that's the new "stable" release | Oct 08 14:58 |
| MinceR | it doesn't work at all, but don't worry, we'll fix it eventually | Oct 08 14:58 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: like the GTK framework :P | Oct 08 14:59 |
| MinceR | if your business critical stuff fails in the meantime, that's just too fucking bad | Oct 08 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Linux 3.8.0? | Oct 08 14:59 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: systemd 219, rHELL 7.2 | Oct 08 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | 4* | Oct 08 14:59 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i thought linux stopped making stable releases long ago | Oct 08 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | https://kernel.org/ | Oct 08 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | > stable: 4.8.1, 4.7.7 | Oct 08 15:00 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: remember, sysvinit could shut down systems reliably, with SIGTERM, pause, SIGKILL | Oct 08 15:00 |
| MinceR | for decades. | Oct 08 15:00 |
| MinceR | but i guess that's just not "modern" enough | Oct 08 15:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no sysvinit had the other problem where at times the system would not shutdown at all. | Oct 08 15:00 |
| MinceR | yeah, systemd had that too | Oct 08 15:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: they fixed that with over killing. | Oct 08 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | systemd has a watchdog which waits for a while, then shutdowns eventually. | Oct 08 15:01 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit does not have a critical watchdog. | Oct 08 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | so the point of shutting down is always eventually achieved | Oct 08 15:01 |
| MinceR | yeah, just your stuff doesn't get to save its state | Oct 08 15:02 |
| MinceR | like shell history | Oct 08 15:02 |
| MinceR | but who needs that | Oct 08 15:02 |
| MinceR | yanking the power cord out is the new "modern" | Oct 08 15:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yanking the power cord was kind of the jammed sysvinit solution. | Oct 08 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | if bash won't shutdown for 10 minutes, I doubt shell history will be lost because of the watchdog %) | Oct 08 15:02 |
| MinceR | again, if i wanted to run an OS that can't do anything reliably, i'd just run the winblows i was forced to buy along with my hardware. | Oct 08 15:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and hoping your discs were properly flushed. | Oct 08 15:03 |
| XFaCE | [10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern" | Oct 08 15:03 |
| XFaCE | MS DOS :P | Oct 08 15:03 |
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| MinceR | or you could use magic sysrq | Oct 08 15:03 |
| MinceR | except... | Oct 08 15:03 |
| MinceR | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/12/21/1554227 | Oct 08 15:03 |
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| cubexyz | I don't remember seeing any problem with sysvinit on Xenix or Linux | Oct 08 15:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: magic syqrg does not promise disc flushing either. | Oct 08 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | watchdog is per-service | Oct 08 15:03 |
| XFaCE | [10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern" | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at least it lets you tell the system to sync everything and unmount everything | Oct 08 15:04 |
| XFaCE | the new modern is installing stuff in virtual containers and when it breaks just rebooting or replacing said VM | Oct 08 15:04 |
| XFaCE | who care about long-term reliability | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | i do | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | but then, i'm not running lendows | Oct 08 15:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you need some badly behaved items loaded to have shutdown issues on Xenix but it possible. | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | and i don't buy into the "VMs will fix all our problems" religion either | Oct 08 15:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, badly behaved items do that on linux too -- like systemd | Oct 08 15:05 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: it won't fix them, but it will obfuscate around them nicely | Oct 08 15:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 08 15:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I locked a Xenix up with a 2 scripts where every time one died the other started a new copy. | Oct 08 15:06 |
| MinceR | and add some more problems | Oct 08 15:06 |
| MinceR | and help hw sales | Oct 08 15:06 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, which version of Xenix? Or was it Unix SysV? | Oct 08 15:06 |
| cubexyz | btw I've been running Linux Sysvinit (FC1) since 2004 | Oct 08 15:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: System V.2.3.4 the 1991 of Xenix | Oct 08 15:08 |
| cubexyz | if you really don't like sysvinit why not run one of the BSDs? | Oct 08 15:08 |
| cubexyz | for server... | Oct 08 15:08 |
| XRevan86 | daemontools is the worst | Oct 08 15:09 |
| MinceR | he'd rather run windows | Oct 08 15:09 |
| MinceR | but can only afford the closest gratis thing, systemd | Oct 08 15:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I hate windows way more than I hate sysvinit. | Oct 08 15:10 |
| cubexyz | I have a server that does automatic shutdowns when the UPS loses power | Oct 08 15:10 |
| cubexyz | no problems... | Oct 08 15:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: but you like svchost, don't you? | Oct 08 15:10 |
| cubexyz | and I have 12 years of experience with it | Oct 08 15:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: svchost great way to hide a virus. | Oct 08 15:10 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i had that too, until the machine decided it won't talk to my ups anymore | Oct 08 15:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: exactly | Oct 08 15:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: same thing is true for systemd | Oct 08 15:10 |
| oiaohm | No systemd in fact has proper reporting of what is contained. | Oct 08 15:11 |
| MinceR | sure | Oct 08 15:11 |
| oiaohm | svchost you can have it completely lie. | Oct 08 15:11 |
| MinceR | did it properly report all the unchecked null dereferences too? | Oct 08 15:11 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, I assume you were using apcupsd? | Oct 08 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Windows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call. | Oct 08 15:11 |
| MinceR | i'm using nut | Oct 08 15:11 |
| MinceR | i have an eaton ups | Oct 08 15:12 |
| cubexyz | you can reload the USB sub-system I think' | Oct 08 15:12 |
| cubexyz | if it stops communicating | Oct 08 15:12 |
| MinceR | i guess the next reboot will fix it... | Oct 08 15:12 |
| MinceR | even lsusb hangs | Oct 08 15:12 |
| MinceR | and i can't even kill it with ^C | Oct 08 15:12 |
| MinceR | 08 161155 < oiaohm> Windows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call. | Oct 08 15:13 |
| MinceR | of course it did | Oct 08 15:13 |
| MinceR | they come from the same culture | Oct 08 15:13 |
| MinceR | and have the same underlying idea | Oct 08 15:14 |
| cubexyz | I would try reloading usb-storage, but maybe your system is different | Oct 08 15:14 |
| oiaohm | daemontools + sysvinit was a great way to let lose hell. | Oct 08 15:14 |
| cubexyz | rmmod usb-storage then insmod usb-storage fixed some issues for me | Oct 08 15:14 |
| MinceR | if i ping timeout, it didn't :> | Oct 08 15:14 |
| cubexyz | also some external usb hard drives should be avoided | Oct 08 15:15 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: examples? | Oct 08 15:15 |
| MinceR | nope, not even loaded here | Oct 08 15:15 |
| MinceR | there are no usb devices plugged into the server other than the ups | Oct 08 15:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no systemd is more GNU culture of badly copy Unix world stuff. I have told you before the unix world stuff they were attempting to copy. | Oct 08 15:15 |
| cubexyz | XFaCE, any really el cheapo chinese ones | Oct 08 15:15 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which unix world stuff does stuffing several unrelated services in the same process? | Oct 08 15:15 |
| cubexyz | I think WD one of the better ones | Oct 08 15:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: X11 | Oct 08 15:16 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: show me a windowing system that is more modular than X11. | Oct 08 15:16 |
| cubexyz | anyways my only shutdowns have happened when the utility power fails for longer periods of time | Oct 08 15:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there are so many windows systems truly more modular not bound to a single event loop for decades. | Oct 08 15:17 |
| cubexyz | also I made some reliability improvements to FC1 and I understand it pretty well | Oct 08 15:18 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which of them do properly separate out the window manager and the widget toolkit? | Oct 08 15:18 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, your Linux is probably significantly different from my FC1 server | Oct 08 15:18 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 08 15:18 |
| cubexyz | a lot of stuff has changed since then | Oct 08 15:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: system in fact fires off a lot of processes. So does not really stuff unrelated stuff into the same process. | Oct 08 15:19 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: non sequitur | Oct 08 15:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: X11 core server until recently had input and 2d rendering in the same thread. This is why when X11 server starts rendering hard input would freese. | Oct 08 15:19 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure the job of init, rc, udev, [x]inetd, crond and atd are still in pid1 | Oct 08 15:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: only one out if that list is in fact in systemd pid1. | Oct 08 15:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: other windowing systems tend to build the window manager and the widget toolkit into the display server. far less modular, far less flexible. | Oct 08 15:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: [citation needed] | Oct 08 15:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of those things are fired off by the PID1 but not in the PID1. | Oct 08 15:21 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: [citation needed] | Oct 08 15:21 |
| oiaohm | systemd-udevd.service << this is because udevd is a service in it own right with its own pid. | Oct 08 15:22 |
| MinceR | right, so that's udev | Oct 08 15:22 |
| MinceR | what about the others? | Oct 08 15:22 |
| cubexyz | xchat and X itself used the most CPU time | Oct 08 15:22 |
| cubexyz | not httpd | Oct 08 15:22 |
| cubexyz | significantly more | Oct 08 15:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you will find inetd, crond and atd stuff are all services under systemd in own right. | Oct 08 15:23 |
| MinceR | what are they called? | Oct 08 15:23 |
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| MinceR | not only did systemd take over the job of crond, it even broke crond with cgroups cargo culting | Oct 08 15:27 |
| cubexyz | if you really wanted to be strict you could run your server without X running | Oct 08 15:28 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, did your 1991 Xenix have internet running? | Oct 08 15:29 |
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| cubexyz | wow, 2.3.4 is pretty old | Oct 08 15:30 |
| cubexyz | don't think my Xenix ever had TCP/IP | Oct 08 15:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Xenix was something stand alone monoring stuff. | Oct 08 15:31 |
| cubexyz | I think sysv stuff started around 1983 so it's been around for a long time | Oct 08 15:33 |
| cubexyz | solaris was a SVR4 derivative | Oct 08 15:34 |
| cubexyz | Sun went from BSD derived to SVR4 derived | Oct 08 15:35 |
| cubexyz | I sure don't remember people talking about sysvinit problems back then | Oct 08 15:36 |
| cubexyz | heck, a driver bug could bring down the system in any case | Oct 08 15:38 |
| cubexyz | or resource exhaustion | Oct 08 15:39 |
| cubexyz | or hardware failure | Oct 08 15:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: resource exhaustion happened lot when restarting services losing still running processes. | Oct 08 15:39 |
| oiaohm | Lets just say sysvinit failure to track was not being linked back to sysvinit. Instead lets attempt to replace X service with Y service and hope it don't leak. | Oct 08 15:40 |
| cubexyz | doesn't the OOM killer supposed to fix that in Linux? | Oct 08 15:40 |
| oiaohm | OOM killer can still cause data loss. | Oct 08 15:41 |
| cubexyz | true | Oct 08 15:41 |
| cubexyz | well you need a good operator watching things | Oct 08 15:41 |
| oiaohm | So you don't want to be hitting resourse exhaustion becuase you have been restarting a service and it has not been restarting cleanly. | Oct 08 15:41 |
| oiaohm | We have need something better than sysvinit for some time. | Oct 08 15:42 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: also remember you don't want to be paying a operator to watch stuff 24/7. This is where being able to set proper limits on services come in. | Oct 08 15:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: catch you around. | Oct 08 15:44 |
| cubexyz | later :) | Oct 08 15:44 |
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| cubexyz | nowadays the Linux processes have /proc/some_PID/oom_score | Oct 08 15:46 |
| cubexyz | anyways, I know how FC1 does things so I'm usually not surprised | Oct 08 15:47 |
| cubexyz | hackers are always trying new tricks though | Oct 08 15:47 |
| cubexyz | I think the IBM mainframes do a better job of watchdogging things | Oct 08 15:49 |
| cubexyz | for one thing.. the hardware is a lot more redundant | Oct 08 15:51 |
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| cubexyz | also a mainframe probably does have a 24/7 operator | Oct 08 15:52 |
| cubexyz | we even did for PDP-10s | Oct 08 15:52 |
| cubexyz | the mainframe OS might even be _smaller_ than the PC version | Oct 08 15:53 |
| cubexyz | there's no GUI stuff in there | Oct 08 15:53 |
| cubexyz | I should try running linux on S390 sometime | Oct 08 16:00 |
| cubexyz | there's a couple of things I'm curious about | Oct 08 16:00 |
| cubexyz | there's even a Gentoo for IBM Z systems | Oct 08 16:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784799522220224512 | Oct 08 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NVIDIA Linux Vulkan Performance vs. RADV / AMDGPU-PRO | Oct 08 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/njUJ9jHeZ3 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 17:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA Linux Vulkan Performance vs. RADV / AMDGPU-PRO | Tux Machines | Oct 08 17:56 | |
| MinceR | http://www.vhemt.org/nofuture.jpg | Oct 08 17:59 |
| cubexyz | '07 but we're still around... ;) | Oct 08 18:05 |
| cubexyz | no mad max yet | Oct 08 18:06 |
| cubexyz | Bizarro reminds me of the Far Side a bit | Oct 08 18:11 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe-l%27%C5%93il | Oct 08 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trompe-l'œil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pv0bm ] | Oct 08 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/784805517122236416 | Oct 08 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz You mean you'd like to be buried at sea or actually be minced & sold as feed to a salmon waterfarm? ;-) | Oct 08 18:22 | |
| schestowitz | The latter would profit for me, so no, the former | Oct 08 18:22 |
| schestowitz | The latter would profit from me, so no, the former | Oct 08 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784799523289772032 | Oct 08 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Frameworks 5.27 Released for Plasma 5.8 with New MIME | Oct 08 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Types Icons, Bug Fixes https://t.co/qiveNHK7Vm | Oct 08 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 08 19:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.27 Released for Plasma 5.8 with New MIME Types Icons, Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Oct 08 19:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Frameworks 5.27 Released for Plasma 5.8 with...' | Oct 08 19:05 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/a/YUNgz | Oct 08 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super accurated cosplays you can't believe they could exist. - Album on Imgur | Oct 08 19:27 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/ysCcDnS | Oct 08 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My phone wanted to make a call and connect to the mall wifi at the same time on the same screen. - Imgur | Oct 08 21:09 | |
| cubexyz | ah a pity, discovered another part of Unix v5 is missing: spline | Oct 08 21:25 |
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| cubexyz | wow, did Unix v5 cc use extern or not | Oct 08 21:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, yes it did... so there's a change that the v5 version of cc could compile Unix v6 spline.c | Oct 08 21:29 |
| cubexyz | ok, this is one complex chunk of code | Oct 08 21:34 |
| cubexyz | if this works, it will be the most complex program recompiled for v5 | Oct 08 21:35 |
| cubexyz | v6 and v5 spline.c could be the same, I don't have any way of knowing | Oct 08 21:35 |
| cubexyz | bah | Oct 08 21:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Ghost Blogging With a Pi | FOSS Force | Oct 08 21:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20...' | Oct 08 21:56 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Nothing seems to be raising Lenovo's stock price for very long. | Oct 08 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | The Linux news goes out, it drops from $5.24 HKD to $5.09. They announce the Motorola layoffs, it bounces back for a few days, then goes back down. They announce they're acquiring Fujitsu's PC business, same thing. | Oct 08 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | It seems to be finding its support around 5.14-5.20 HKD | Oct 08 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/ | Oct 08 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo won't make Windows 10 phones due to Microsoft's commitment issues | Oct 08 22:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Someone asked why it would be an issue since "Windows 10 is the same OS on every device.". | Oct 08 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Not true. Those phones require customization by the OEM. | Oct 08 22:39 |
| MinceR | there's no customization that would make Backdoors10 not shit | Oct 08 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I mean to get it running on each device. | Oct 08 22:40 |
| MinceR | my condolences | Oct 08 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | There's a reason they can't offer hundreds of phones running Windows 10. They would run into the same problem you get with Android. | Oct 08 22:40 |
| MinceR | which "problem", diversity? | Oct 08 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Apple has to support a handful of phones. Android OEMs have to customize the firmware for each device. | Oct 08 22:41 |
| MinceR | or that there are few devices that aren't shit? | Oct 08 22:41 |
| MinceR | yeah, all of crApple's devices are garbage | Oct 08 22:41 |
| MinceR | and so is the OS running on them | Oct 08 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Intel had a plan to make phones where the same Android image would run on all of them. | Oct 08 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | They backed out though, so we have to deal with this ARM mess some more. | Oct 08 22:42 |
| MinceR | ah, ARM being a total mess is the problem | Oct 08 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | The SoCs are all very different. | Oct 08 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to have Intel smartphones. It would help the OEMs keep Android more current. | Oct 08 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Too much porting work. OEMs already don't want to support their older hardware. This just gives them something else to blame. | Oct 08 22:46 |
| MinceR | too bad intel sucks at power consumption | Oct 08 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's not as bad as it used to be. There were a ton of unbelievably shitty Android phones running Gingerbread that went on for way too long. | Oct 08 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Not their current stuff. | Oct 08 22:47 |
| MinceR | so why isn't it in phones? | Oct 08 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not entirely certain. | Oct 08 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of these flagship phones running ARM SoCs get shit battery life. | Oct 08 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Like the Galaxy S6. | Oct 08 22:48 |
| MinceR | it seems samsung got rid of the people who knew how to design phones | Oct 08 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | There have been numerous software updates for my phone, it still goes 100-0 in like 5-6 hours of actual use. | Oct 08 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | This is one of the worst phones I have ever owned. | Oct 08 22:49 |
| MinceR | they used to make a galaxy s5 which had a removable battery, memory card slot and was waterproof | Oct 08 22:49 |
| MinceR | now all they make are hypePhone-imitating timebombs | Oct 08 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | John's S6 Edge cracked for no reason. | Oct 08 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | It was fine when he put it on the table and the next morning, the screen was cracked. | Oct 08 22:50 |
| MinceR | though maybe if they looked hard, they could find material for backplates that are even less fit for the purpose | Oct 08 22:50 |
| MinceR | say, uranium | Oct 08 22:50 |
| MinceR | or mercury | Oct 08 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm trading in my S6 as soon as I can. | Oct 08 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's a lease, so I'm going to drop by Best Buy and turn it in the day the lease expires. | Oct 08 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I have about 10 months to go. | Oct 08 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | The next phone must have Micro SD slot, removable battery, and stock Android without bloatware. | Oct 08 22:51 |
| MinceR | do such phones even exist? | Oct 08 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, 5-6 hours is unacceptable, but it was worse. | Oct 08 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint and Samsung packed my phone full of battery killing crapware. | Oct 08 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Onedrive drains your power even if you never set up an account. | Oct 08 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | It keeps heckling you until you disable it. | Oct 08 22:52 |
| MinceR | can you use unlocked phones in the usa? | Oct 08 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | And Sprint loaded Lookout, a horrible antivirus program that wastes power scanning every file and app. | Oct 08 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You can, if you want to buy it for full price. | Oct 08 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint gave me a package deal that includes unlimited LTE data and unlimited calls and texts, and the phone is basically waived from the price of the plan. | Oct 08 22:54 |
| MinceR | that would get rid of the carrier's bloatware | Oct 08 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | They were really pushing the lease hard so that's why I got the S6. It was basically that or an iPhone. | Oct 08 22:54 |
| MinceR | ew | Oct 08 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've been working around the shit battery life on the S6 by carrying a power bank around with me. | Oct 08 22:55 |
| MinceR | maybe they could try making phone casings out of radioactive gallium isotopes | Oct 08 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung phones have really been going downhill since the S6 came out. | Oct 08 22:56 |
| MinceR | and before | Oct 08 22:57 |
| cubexyz | backdoors10 not shit == impossible | Oct 08 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/ | Oct 08 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : Lenovo | Oct 08 23:11 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point 4 days ago | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Failure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold. | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | "Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo." | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | [...] | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Sorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason: | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2 | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | Error:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program. | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveeditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | [–]PlsAnswer19836 [S] 1 point 1 day ago | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | What do you mean? | Oct 08 23:12 |
| MinceR | http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1054.html | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Oct 08 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.giantitp.com | Giant In the Playground Games [ http://ur1.ca/pv1ox ] | Oct 08 23:12 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | I mean that they won't give you a recovery stick in case Windows gets hosed and your OneKey Recovery doesn't work. | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | That basically guarantees that eventually, many people will have to ship their laptop to Lenovo and hope they get it back sometime before the sun flash boils the oceans and then engulfs the inner planets. :) | Oct 08 23:12 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think I'll give the Yoga a miss | Oct 08 23:12 |
| cubexyz | just a hunch | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | The hardware is pretty nice. | Oct 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's this damned BIOS that ruins it. | Oct 08 23:13 |
| MinceR | i'll keep staying away from non-thinkpad lenovos | Oct 08 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | You can't do anything except use Windows 10 with it. | Oct 08 23:13 |
| MinceR | as i always did :> | Oct 08 23:13 |
| cubexyz | and R30's :) | Oct 08 23:13 |
| cubexyz | you probably won't like those | Oct 08 23:13 |
| MinceR | what are they like? | Oct 08 23:14 |
| cubexyz | hard to fix, and they overheat | Oct 08 23:14 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 08 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | So there's this company called AdReclaim that stuffs pages full of Clickbait "Taboola" style ads and pop-unders, but only if the user has ad blocking. | Oct 08 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | It exploits a bug in Chrome that stops content blockers from blocking websockets requests. | Oct 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | The company claims it can evade 100% of ad blockers, but that only seems to be the case in Chrome. | Oct 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | In Firefox, their method doesn't work. In Edge, their method doesn't work. In Internet Explorer with TPL ad blocking lists, their method doesn't work. In Opera with the built-in ad blocker, their method doesn't work. | Oct 08 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Two-thirds of desktop web browser users now use Chrome, so maybe they figure that's good enough. | Oct 08 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Their business will die off if Google ever decides to patch Chrome. | Oct 08 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe they just plan to make as much money as they can until Google gets around to that. | Oct 08 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Or if enough sites deploy AdReclaim that people flood back to Firefox to get away from it. | Oct 08 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Adblock Plus still hasn't bothered to solve the Facebook issue. ublock-origin did. | Oct 08 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I guess ABP is too busy working on effectively becoming adware to worry about this. | Oct 08 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've been working on energy efficiency for a while now. | Oct 08 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Between John and me, we're using about 4 kWh per day. | Oct 08 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | That's down from about 7 or 8. That's base load, not counting air conditioning, which we don't need for the better part of 9 months out of the year in Illinois. | Oct 08 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | The landlords run a boiler system for heat. | Oct 08 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois will probably be facing an energy crisis within the next five years. | Oct 08 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | ComEd is threatening to shut down two nuclear power plants unless the state gives them a billion dollars and the state doesn't have a billion dollars because it's Illinois. | Oct 08 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | So we'll move from being a net exporter of power to a net importer of power. | Oct 08 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | The people running this state are idiots. | Oct 08 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | They've been asking voters to vote no on the transportation lockbox constitutional amendment (after they passed it and got it on the ballot to keep people from going door to door gathering support through a citizen initiative). | Oct 08 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | They're yanking a billion dollars a year from transportation taxes and spending it on other things, which is extremely stupid. | Oct 08 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | We get federal matching funds on almost all of the transportation projects that aren't being funded, so the state loses a billion a year from the federal government. | Oct 08 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | So I voted yes on the lockbox. | Oct 08 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | I would have voted to stop them from raiding other things, if I could. | Oct 08 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | As far as the Democrats are concerned, the entire state should be sacrificed on the altar of unfunded teacher pensions. | Oct 08 23:27 |
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