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DaemonFC[–]fengshaun [score hidden] 16 minutes ago Oct 02 00:02
DaemonFCHave you verified that your ip actually changes when you renew your DHCP lease?Oct 02 00:02
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DaemonFC[–]BaronHK [S] 1 point a minute ago Oct 02 00:02
DaemonFCYes I have. Comcast usually gives me a new IP address every time I unplug my modem for a while, which I do each night. My IP address has changed several times and always blocked on Lenovo Forums.Oct 02 00:02
DaemonFCI don't know how many people they have potentially blocked just to try to keep me out, but it hasn't worked. It may inconvenience other customers that need help with their Lenovo PC but use Comcast and get the ban message.Oct 02 00:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782380327708856321Oct 02 00:34
TweetTuxMachines                 'Cossacks 3' officially due on Linux in the second halfOct 02 00:34
TweetTuxMachines                 of October https://t.co/zD5c2FiPtQ (error)Oct 02 00:34
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/cossacks-3-officially-due-on-linux-in-the-second-half-of-october.8228 )Oct 02 00:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782384267732979712Oct 02 00:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/vWcNJfPZm9Oct 02 00:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 00:34
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 02 00:34
DaemonFCApparently, Apple EFI checks to see if it's booting OS X and then powers off the Thunderbolt ports if it isn't. Linux contains workaround code for this.Oct 02 02:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/maxpolk/status/782416574191808512Oct 02 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maxpolk: @schestowitz @reddit Desperation for @lenovo getting *extremely* desperate after their conspiracy with @Microsoft to ban Linux went publicOct 02 03:29
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schestowitzDaemonFC: on the upside...Oct 02 03:56
schestowitzhundreds saw your headlineOct 02 03:56
schestowitzand dozens read the bodyOct 02 03:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: are you OK with me reposting it in techrights?Oct 02 03:56
DaemonFCYeahOct 02 03:56
schestowitzis there enough background in there?Oct 02 03:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: this can go on for monthsOct 02 03:59
schestowitzand ought toOct 02 03:59
DaemonFCI don't know where to take this next.Oct 02 03:59
schestowitzDaemonFC: can you add an intro sentence?Oct 02 03:59
DaemonFCLike?Oct 02 03:59
schestowitzTo explain it's you who started the whole thing and what it did?Oct 02 04:00
schestowitzthe existing text being the latestOct 02 04:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: so that it doens't start like "Oh, yeah..."Oct 02 04:01
schestowitzDaemonFC: just once concise sentenceOct 02 04:02
schestowitzexplain it's you who starrted itOct 02 04:02
schestowitzI started typing it upOct 02 04:02
schestowitzmaybe reddit is useless (or the sub)Oct 02 04:03
schestowitzso we can use techrights now to keep it talked aboutOct 02 04:03
schestowitzDaemonFC: leave ir with meOct 02 04:04
schestowitzI'll write an introOct 02 04:05
DaemonFCYeah, you're probably better at that than I am.Oct 02 04:05
DaemonFCReddit punishes posts that aren't boring.Oct 02 04:06
DaemonFCCats and stuff.Oct 02 04:06
DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft has their own subreddits.Oct 02 04:06
DaemonFCjanemsft is a mod in the Windows 10 subreddit.Oct 02 04:06
DaemonFCerrr, jenmsftOct 02 04:07
schestowitzok, hang onOct 02 04:09
schestowitzalmost thereOct 02 04:09
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/55as6r/is_my_feedback_actually_used/Oct 02 04:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is my feedback actually used? : windowsphoneOct 02 04:09
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 02 04:09
DaemonFCNew Windows 10 releases fix one thing and break something else (sometimes even the update itself won't install).Oct 02 04:09
DaemonFCIt feels like Microsoft is shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.Oct 02 04:09
DaemonFChttps://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/81659/microsoft-delivers-yet-another-broken-windows-10-updateOct 02 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Delivers Yet Another Broken Windows 10 Update - Thurrott.comOct 02 04:13
DaemonFC"Microsoft is pushing the idea that you should always patch your machine on the day the update is released as they often release security patches that fix vulnerabilities. But, until the company can get a handle on their quality control issues, such as the Anniversary update breaking millions of webcams, it feels like every time you run Windows update you are rolling the dice."Oct 02 04:14
DaemonFCOh good. Now you don't have to tape over the webcam if you're a high school student so your pervy principle won't use the RAT the school installed to your laptop to watch you naked in your bedroom. (Yeah, that actually happened a while ago.)Oct 02 04:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: fair to say it started in techrights irc?Oct 02 04:18
DaemonFCYeah.Oct 02 04:18
schestowitzok, waitOct 02 04:20
schestowitz5 minsOct 02 04:20
schestowitzfrom now on, write your rants in techrights tooOct 02 04:20
schestowitzthe corporate media is 'done' with itOct 02 04:20
schestowitzeven redditOct 02 04:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, The way many people respond in Reddit is odd.Oct 02 04:23
DaemonFCWhy would people be falling over themselves in defense of Microsoft there?Oct 02 04:23
DaemonFCMicrosoft hasn't done any favors for people who want to use Linux on their PC. uEFI has brought about literally thousands of problems all by itself even if the OEM isn't trying to lock Linux out.Oct 02 04:24
DaemonFCPCs are a lot more like Macs now. Bad firmware and all.Oct 02 04:24
DaemonFCI was excited for a while because I heard that uEFI would have an open source implementation.Oct 02 04:26
DaemonFCThen they based it on the open source implementation and signed it so only they could update it.Oct 02 04:26
cubexyzok, renewed cubeman.tk for another year... it's still freeOct 02 04:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/Oct 02 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | TechrightsOct 02 04:30
schestowitzforget about reddit for nowOct 02 04:30
schestowitzthe effort taken to prevent burial is hugeOct 02 04:30
schestowitzso use your own platformsOct 02 04:30
schestowitzthis kind of censorship in digg is why we needed boycottnovellOct 02 04:30
schestowitzat some stage people are not willing to let their platform be 'hijacked' by causesOct 02 04:31
schestowitzDaemonFC: not seen any coverage of it since FridayOct 02 04:31
schestowitzwhen I gave you a link about itOct 02 04:31
schestowitzand thsi coverage repeated the face-saving lieOct 02 04:31
DaemonFCYeah. I don't think that people are buying it.Oct 02 04:32
DaemonFCEven the people that try to make excuses for it probably wouldn't buy one themselves if they wanted to run Linux.Oct 02 04:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782486880113795072Oct 02 04:33
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE: Mesa, Kernel, GNOME, KDE apps update in TumbleweedOct 02 04:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rmrW42Ipej (news.opensuse.org)Oct 02 04:33
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 04:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE NewsOct 02 04:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782498196345982976Oct 02 04:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois inOct 02 04:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga ProblemsOct 02 04:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org)Oct 02 04:33
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 04:33
*TweetTuxMachines @yogatailor favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...'Oct 02 04:34
cubexyzI wouldn't have any problem getting a used Lenovo X60, T60 or X200 with librebootOct 02 04:37
cubexyzotherwise no lenovo for meOct 02 04:38
DaemonFCcubexyz, The hardware in this laptop is pretty decent. Windows 10 isn't.Oct 02 04:38
DaemonFCOne thing that really bugs me is that a lot of Windows apps are not meant to be used on HiDPI displays, so you get little butons and stuff and can't really use the app.Oct 02 04:39
DaemonFCPeazip is like that.Oct 02 04:39
cubexyzfor GM45 chipsets installing libreboot means the Intel management engine is goneOct 02 04:40
cubexyzthat's a big deal for meOct 02 04:40
DaemonFCIt can bring up the processor without IME?Oct 02 04:40
cubexyzyes, on certain modelsOct 02 04:41
cubexyzof course, some hardware just doesn't have management engine at allOct 02 04:43
cubexyzalso getting rid of that code gives you more room for other stuff for corebootOct 02 04:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pkrumins/status/782489296414601216Oct 02 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pkrumins: @schestowitz Tux celebrating Wine release. https://t.co/GbyXEM6oAjOct 02 04:45
cubexyzthere's a 5 megabits of ME codeOct 02 04:46
cubexyzthere's also a smaller version which is 3 megabitsOct 02 04:46
cubexyzcoreboot people now refer to Intel ME has "Panic level 9000+"Oct 02 04:47
cubexyzs/has/as/Oct 02 04:48
DaemonFCschestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701Oct 02 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo CommunityOct 02 04:50
cubexyzhere's a chart of the current ME situation:Oct 02 04:50
cubexyzhttps://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_EngineOct 02 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Intel Management Engine - corebootOct 02 04:50
cubexyzIntel ME is great for the NSA, bad for everyone elseOct 02 04:52
schestowitzyeahOct 02 04:56
schestowitzIntel Inside...Oct 02 04:56
schestowitzIntelligenceOct 02 04:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoftOct 02 04:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: "From a MS official site: " the Microsoft MVP Award is our way of saying Thanks!"" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfingOct 02 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - TechrightsOct 02 04:58
schestowitzDaemonFC: keep showing me links like thatOct 02 05:00
schestowitzI'll circulate best I can...Oct 02 05:00
cubexyzwhat you want for starters is a laptop with a socketed DIP or PLCC chipOct 02 05:00
cubexyzyou'll need a special tool for removing PLCC chipsOct 02 05:01
cubexyzbut you'll be save from bricking your laptopOct 02 05:02
cubexyzX200, X60, T60 etc merely has the _potential_ to be free of Intel MEOct 02 05:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/782505711720734720Oct 02 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7Oct 02 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7Oct 02 05:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/td-p/3439442Oct 02 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo CommunityOct 02 05:04
cubexyzGigabyte GA-6BXC has a socketed DIP chip for BIOSOct 02 05:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782501624556220416Oct 02 05:12
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois inOct 02 05:12
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga ProblemsOct 02 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org)Oct 02 05:12
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | TechrightsOct 02 05:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507065168236544Oct 02 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Sabayon Bizarre But Useful https://t.co/YSwkTHTmk0Oct 02 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (freedompenguin.com)Oct 02 05:13
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Sabayon Bizarre But Useful - Freedom PenguinOct 02 05:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507698994704384Oct 02 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 "special Korean Edition of neon's Developer EditionOct 02 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 tracking the stable branch of KDE's code repositories."Oct 02 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HWLl66OYaq (blogs.kde.org)Oct 02 05:13
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE neon Korean Developer Edition (... and future CJK Edition?) | blogs.kde.orgOct 02 05:13
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54j74w/can_someone_recommend_me_penetration_testing/Oct 02 05:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Can someone recommend me Penetration testing linux distros for slow Pc's? : linuxOct 02 05:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: I saw you in "Not the Lenovo Yoga!" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54uahw/linux_laptop_suggestions/Oct 02 05:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux laptop suggestions? : linuxOct 02 05:27
schestowitzI was trying to find whether someone mentioned LenovoOct 02 05:27
schestowitz"I bought a lenovo ideapad y700 earlier this year. It is a beautiful machine and runs Linux Mint perfectly. Excellent for gaming."Oct 02 05:27
DaemonFCschestowitz, It seems it's hit or miss. Probably since the MS deal is recent.Oct 02 05:28
DaemonFCThe first 900 didn't block Linux.Oct 02 05:28
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soj2/should_we_make_an_effort_to_make_hardware_stop/Oct 02 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should we make an effort to make hardware stop claiming to be "Linux Supported!" if it stopped working after a kernel released years ago? : linuxOct 02 05:33
schestowitzdid you see their MS patent deal?\Oct 02 05:33
schestowitzOEM deal?Oct 02 05:33
schestowitzand patent settlement?Oct 02 05:33
schestowitzMaybe only for Android, but it's a secret deal, so who knows...Oct 02 05:33
schestowitzI wrote about it in the summerOct 02 05:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782508631782817792Oct 02 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Say not Goodbye, say #Sayonara https://t.co/3IFuZeysoVOct 02 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ocsmag.com)Oct 02 05:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Say not Goodbye, say Sayonara | OCS-MagOct 02 05:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782513193369346048Oct 02 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and HowOct 02 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 We’re Fixing it https://t.co/ghIqiU7BE9 (blogs.s-osg.org)Oct 02 05:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.s-osg.org/problem-linux-kernel-documentation-fixing/ )Oct 02 05:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: "Whatever you do stay away from the Thinkpad X230, worst trackpad I've ever used." https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54jyuc/decent_linux_laptop_for_2016/ #lenovo ruins #ibm businessOct 02 05:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Decent Linux Laptop for 2016? : linuxOct 02 05:38
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 02 05:41
DaemonFCStay away from recent Lenovo Yogas. They don't let you install Linux at all. So unless wasting your money on a fast SSD that Linux can't even see and resorting to running it off a SD card or thumb drive is something you want to do, stay away from Lenovo. Lenovo no = Not good for Linux. If anything the problem will get worse.Oct 02 05:41
DaemonFCerr, meant to say Lenovo = not good for LinuxOct 02 05:42
DaemonFCchanged thatOct 02 05:42
DaemonFCWe should make sure to emphasize that so that people think Lenovo and then "I probably can't run Linux on that.".Oct 02 05:42
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/556rkk/is_it_safe_to_install_gnome_320_on_ubuntu_16041/Oct 02 05:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is it safe to install GNOME 3.20 on Ubuntu 16.04.1 using ppa? : linuxOct 02 05:50
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54p0gg/the_us_presidential_candidates_on_technology/Oct 02 05:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The U.S. presidential candidates on technology, privacy issues [including use of open source software in government] : linuxOct 02 05:51
schestowitz"Can someone find that video of Hillary Clinton tripping all over herself to figure out what Firefox and open source software were when she was SoS and a federal employee asked her why they had to use Internet Explorer?"Oct 02 05:51
schestowitzLOL at " tripping all over herself"Oct 02 05:52
schestowitzhttp://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/Oct 02 05:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ijr.com | I Protected Hillary Clinton In The Secret Service - Here's Why Her 'Fainting' Video Really Scares MeOct 02 05:52
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vfux/what_do_you_think_about_the_business_model_of/Oct 02 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What do you think about the business model of Parted Magic? : linuxOct 02 05:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, too soon?Oct 02 06:00
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z4UEr2ekOYOct 02 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hillary Clinton thinks saving money is complicated - YouTubeOct 02 06:02
*TweetTuxMachines @maelpoke favourited 'The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and How...'Oct 02 06:02
*TweetTuxMachines @chakrasbydidi favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...'Oct 02 06:02
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vdp8/lenovo_courts_devs_with_moto_z_source_code_release/Oct 02 06:03
schestowitz"I see the development kit is apparently released and the kernel sources is apparently released. Is the bootloader locked? Does this mean that I am able to actually compile the kernel myself and install it on the phone? Am I able to compile Android myself as well? What restrictions are there?"Oct 02 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Courts Devs With Moto Z Source Code Release : linuxOct 02 06:04
DaemonFCschestowitz, It's one of the most restrictive phones you can get, and it's a Verizon exclusive afaik.Oct 02 06:06
DaemonFCSo even if it was easy to mode, few people have it.Oct 02 06:06
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schestowitzhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12578204Oct 02 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | So while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in ge... | Hacker NewsOct 02 06:12
schestowitz"Oct 02 06:12
schestowitzSo while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in general.Oct 02 06:12
schestowitzContext: I'm one of the original leads on LXQt, and I initiated the merge of Razor-qt and LXDE-Qt into LXQt.Oct 02 06:12
schestowitzI've been using LXQt as my main desktop for several years now. I've kept up with what other desktops have been doing. I've been especially impressed by the efforts of the GNOME team, and especially disappointed with the clusterfuck KDE has become... but those are just details.Oct 02 06:12
schestowitzI feel like the Linux desktop is dead, and one of the worst examples of open source software right now.Oct 02 06:12
schestowitzAlmost nobody actually collaborates on anything. Everybody wants to do their own thing and it leads to developer fragmentation. Every project is undermanned. LXQt is especially undermanned right now. The Cinnamon guys, last I heard, want to switch to Qt but don't have the developers to do it and would end up being a LXQt clone.Oct 02 06:12
schestowitz"Oct 02 06:12
cubexyzcome on, linux is definitely not deadOct 02 06:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/premierleague/status/782525961799598080Oct 02 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7Oct 02 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7Oct 02 06:25
schestowitzsite down? https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtmlOct 02 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtml )Oct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782521042388516865Oct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 "Welcome to the 36th installation of This Week in Solus."Oct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GdQBkAD01N (solus-project.com)Oct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #36 | SolusOct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782523195349954561Oct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 What’s New in Elementary OS 0.4 LokiOct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6LlMIFEKOT (linuxscoop.com)Oct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | What's New in Elementary OS 0.4 Loki - Linux ScoopOct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782524963865653248Oct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Why kernel development still uses emailOct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JRKkuuxSze (lwn.net)Oct 02 06:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why kernel development still uses email [LWN.net]Oct 02 06:28
cubexyzoh man that's brutal... they tried to OCR frakturOct 02 06:31
cubexyzjust buy the english translation :-POct 02 06:32
schestowitzhttps://camo.githubusercontent.com/b07bd2390cdd348e6404e46a97e3f35d2be5c25e/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f7444314f4251332e706e67Oct 02 06:46
schestowitzhttp://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-signature-pc-program-allegedly-blocks-installation-of-linux-or-does-itOct 02 06:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? | HotHardwareOct 02 06:48
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54e5w1/microsoft_signature_pc_program_allegedly_blocks/Oct 02 06:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? : linuxOct 02 06:48
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpgOct 02 07:12
*TweetTuxMachines @jiem1978 favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...'Oct 02 07:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782528689179426816Oct 02 07:13
TweetTuxMachines                 "competing projects create and spread FUD about LinuxOct 02 07:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Mint in an effort to promote their own distribution."Oct 02 07:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MJXNiXnERO (segfault.linuxmint.com)Oct 02 07:13
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segfault.linuxmint.com | Addressing FUD ← SegfaultOct 02 07:13
cubexyzoh dear...Oct 02 07:21
cubexyzhttps://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/10/01/2155209/multiple-linux-distributions-affected-by-crippling-bug-in-systemdOct 02 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Multiple Linux Distributions Affected By Crippling Bug In Systemd - SlashdotOct 02 07:21
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpgOct 02 07:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543065571393537Oct 02 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives https://t.co/WXp7PRgY2COct 02 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 07:29
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux MachinesOct 02 07:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543067450441730Oct 02 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/iO4C5DPSJGOct 02 07:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 02 07:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543069212139520Oct 02 07:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uzwoydirQwOct 02 07:30
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TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 07:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesOct 02 07:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543071225389056Oct 02 07:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/8dCqMvb47IOct 02 07:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 07:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 02 07:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543072433352704Oct 02 07:37
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/wIkEXy5q11Oct 02 07:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 07:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 02 07:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543132567146496Oct 02 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 2/10/2016:  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXELOct 02 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016:Oct 02 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEOct 02 07:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916536Oct 02 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The media no longer seems to be interested in us showing it that #lenovo lied. I guess they see no business model/gain in it.Like #superfishOct 02 07:41
cubexyznot to often I see Plan 9 advocacyOct 02 07:41
cubexyzhonestly though it's simpler just to use slackOct 02 07:53
cubexyzIf I'm doing the programming you can be sure I'm going to test on openbsd, slackware, FC1, and maybe Fedora 14Oct 02 07:59
cubexyzI stopped using Fedora after version 14Oct 02 07:59
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/mNxDJU5Oct 02 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This site login - ImgurOct 02 09:09
XRevan86MinceR: That's an interesting way of exploit protection.Oct 02 09:10
MinceRindeedOct 02 09:11
XRevan86"You're using eval? You should think of security: forbid quotation mark usage."Oct 02 09:11
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/MSF89TT.gifvOct 02 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLEOct 02 09:32
cubexyzummmOct 02 09:37
cubexyzyeah the word shell definitely could be part of an email addressOct 02 09:38
cubexyzlol at the tetris picOct 02 09:40
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/jJ80AgJ.jpgOct 02 10:11
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/aE42F1B.pngOct 02 10:20
XRevan86MinceR: So was faith of most of Russians. But then Yeltsin fixed it by making capitalism worse than Gorbachov's reforms.Oct 02 10:26
MinceRthat is, in russiaOct 02 10:28
MinceRhe couldn't make it worse anywhere elseOct 02 10:29
XRevan86I think Yeltsin is the reason why Russian population in general doesn't like regime changes.Oct 02 10:29
MinceRbut putler willOct 02 10:29
XRevan86They know on their skin it can get much worse.Oct 02 10:29
XRevan86Because even Gorbachov wasn't that bad as what regime change delivered.Oct 02 10:30
XRevan86> he couldn't make it worse anywhere elseOct 02 10:32
XRevan86MinceR: That's a weird thought.Oct 02 10:33
MinceRwhy would it be?Oct 02 10:33
XRevan86It's very hard to make worse something that was already near bottom.Oct 02 10:33
MinceRglobal nuclear winter will make capitalism worseOct 02 10:33
MinceRas in, we all starve to deathOct 02 10:33
MinceRplants die without lightOct 02 10:33
MinceRanything that eats plants dies without foodOct 02 10:33
XRevan86People genuinely thought any change could go only up because below was only the floor.Oct 02 10:33
MinceRthey'll find out that it can indeed get worseOct 02 10:34
MinceRand maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worseOct 02 10:34
XRevan86MinceR: I mean, realisticly worse.Oct 02 10:34
XRevan86not nuclear worseOct 02 10:34
MinceRthat's quite realisticOct 02 10:34
XRevan86> and maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worseOct 02 10:35
XRevan86Humans are jerks.Oct 02 10:35
MinceRindeedOct 02 10:35
XRevan86Don't blame the 1%, blame the 100%.Oct 02 10:35
XRevan86Damn, I hope that won't catch on.Oct 02 10:35
MinceR:>Oct 02 10:38
MinceRhttp://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/09/30/mads-caption-contest-winnerOct 02 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | MAD’s Caption Contest Winner! | Mad MagazineOct 02 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782545040946192384Oct 02 10:48
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 2/10/2016:  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXELOct 02 10:48
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016:Oct 02 10:48
TweetTuxMachines                  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEOct 02 10:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | TechrightsOct 02 10:48
MinceRhttp://wandpcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/WandP49site.pngOct 02 10:51
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cubexyzoh boy, someone at google books got CPE Bach and Johann Sebastian Bach mixed upOct 02 11:31
MinceR:)Oct 02 11:32
cubexyzrather disappointingOct 02 11:32
cubexyzCarl was the 2nd son of Johann Sebastian in case anyone was wonderingOct 02 11:38
cubexyz1714 to 1788Oct 02 11:39
MinceRhttp://www.sciencealert.com/80-of-the-data-in-chinese-clinical-trial-is-fabricatedOct 02 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-80% of data in Chinese clinical trials have been fabricated - ScienceAlertOct 02 11:40
cubexyzI was a bit taken aback over the price of the NovenaOct 02 11:42
cubexyz$500 for just the motherboardOct 02 11:42
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Z1h6NjNOct 02 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Great sorting job Outlook for Mac - very useful - ImgurOct 02 11:42
MinceRtoo bad the novena case is not conducive for use in lapOct 02 11:42
MinceRthe same issue exists with most "2 in 1"sOct 02 11:43
cubexyzwhat's the problem with it?Oct 02 11:43
cubexyzI suppose you mean the monitor being turned around the other way?Oct 02 11:43
MinceRthere's no place where you can put the keyboard that is connected to the display so you can hold the whole thing by holding on to the keyboard/wristpadOct 02 11:44
MinceRyeahOct 02 11:44
MinceRso either the computer or the keyboard will fall off your lapOct 02 11:44
schestowitzJuve translation is half done.Oct 02 11:44
schestowitzto be posted in techrights soon, re EPO liesOct 02 11:44
cubexyzI can't think of anything decent laptop-wise other than chromebooks Oct 02 11:45
cubexyzI guess X200 with libreboot would be OKOct 02 11:46
MinceRthinkpads still seem to be fine, aside from the usual issues like intel ME and m$ taxOct 02 11:46
cubexyzwell you'd most likely be looking at a used one for X200Oct 02 11:47
MinceRi mostly looked at the x260Oct 02 11:48
MinceRcomes with an intel gpu that's more powerful than any gpu i ever hadOct 02 11:48
MinceRand finally they made them black againOct 02 11:49
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cubexyzthe old R30's weren't very repairable :-/Oct 02 11:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782607511815847936Oct 02 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNWOct 02 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 11:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 02 11:50
MinceRwell, the R series was the old cheapness-oriented series, wasn't it?Oct 02 11:50
cubexyzcould beOct 02 11:50
cubexyzthat x260 is going to generate a lot of heatOct 02 11:51
MinceRi didn't have issues with cooling before, except when there was accumulated dust in my x220itOct 02 11:52
cubexyzbut it looks pretty decent otherwise... if you ignore the win10 preloaded Oct 02 11:52
MinceRi cleaned it out and the issue went awayOct 02 11:52
MinceRwell, yeahOct 02 11:52
MinceRaccording to   https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X260   it still supports legacy bootOct 02 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.freebsd.org | Laptops/Thinkpad_X260 - FreeBSD WikiOct 02 11:52
cubexyzthat's a big plusOct 02 11:53
MinceRindeedOct 02 11:53
MinceRas far as i'm concerned, a requirement :>Oct 02 11:53
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144Oct 02 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/Oct 02 11:54
schestowitz"Really. I was thinking of getting a Lenovo machine. Well I better stay with Dell, they make great machines."Oct 02 11:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW'Oct 02 11:54
cubexyzI can report the HP chromebook 14 with Tegra K1 doesn't get hot at allOct 02 11:54
MinceRlol, dHellOct 02 11:54
schestowitzAcer and ASUS are OK also, maybe HPOct 02 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | TechrightsOct 02 11:54
cubexyzand it's fanless... had it in my lap for hoursOct 02 11:54
MinceRschestowitz had complaints about an hp chromebookOct 02 11:54
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139Oct 02 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpgOct 02 11:54
MinceR(the keyboard, specifically)Oct 02 11:54
schestowitzMinceR: yesOct 02 11:54
schestowitzwe returned itOct 02 11:54
schestowitzswapped for AcerOct 02 11:54
cubexyzit's tolerable :)Oct 02 11:54
MinceR:)Oct 02 11:54
schestowitzcubexyz: ^ your image agoOct 02 11:55
schestowitz*aboveOct 02 11:55
cubexyznot the greatest, I admitOct 02 11:55
MinceRtoo bad hp's website is a total pain in the ass to useOct 02 11:55
schestowitz"Ah, Okay."Oct 02 11:55
schestowitz"Why are people complaining about the change?"Oct 02 11:55
schestowitz"http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemd"Oct 02 11:55
MinceRso i have no idea what i'd buy if i were to buy hpOct 02 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for youOct 02 11:55
cubexyzI don't even really like talking to HPOct 02 11:55
cubexyzI'm sure they don't enjoy talking to me much eitherOct 02 11:55
MinceR:>Oct 02 11:55
cubexyzbut I still use two of their computers and they're not badOct 02 11:56
MinceRit's nice to have more data pointsOct 02 11:57
cubexyzhmmm, I'll have to look at the acer with Tegra K1Oct 02 11:58
cubexyzalmost everything comes with win10Oct 02 12:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RichardBaeck/status/782612592657330178Oct 02 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardBaeck: RT @schestowitz #Bees added to US endangered species list for the first time https://t.co/kXAWhF9EXR it's startingOct 02 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://gnusocial.de/url/3144843 )Oct 02 12:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AnarchistDalek/status/782613687257313280Oct 02 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnarchistDalek: 🤔 https://t.co/QyvXXFnMUiOct 02 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Read this: https://t.co/OEyumMGvUQ And then this: https://t.co/FEGKzKqOOB Some people pretend better https://t.co/dZAc866OIeOct 02 12:13
cubexyzlenovo has got 325 thumbs down so far :)Oct 02 12:39
schestowitzwhere?Oct 02 12:45
cubexyzjust the pic being downloaded 325 timesOct 02 12:45
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/god-the-action-figure.jpgOct 02 12:46
cubexyzwith AK-47? Oct 02 12:46
XRevan86cubexyz: Looks like a jediOct 02 12:47
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XRevan86> with kalashnikov AK-47Oct 02 12:49
XRevan86Tautology.Oct 02 12:49
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/O5aX0rCOct 02 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discard submission? Cancel uploads? I don't know what to do, Imgur... - ImgurOct 02 13:16
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7912310Oct 02 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lenovo is lying about #microsoft #linux and now about #layoffs http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.htm just as it lied about #superfish repeatedlyOct 02 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft At Fault? : Tech : GamenguideOct 02 13:58
schestowitz"So they’ve been telling lies by making out it was a Linux Kernel problem."Oct 02 13:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139Oct 02 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpgOct 02 13:59
schestowitz"Although I don’t use Debian, I did not understand why they made this move considering their philosophy."Oct 02 13:59
schestowitz"Quiero llorar."Oct 02 13:59
schestowitz"What? The choice of systemd over the previous system (what was the name of the previus system)??"Oct 02 13:59
schestowitz"Prior to systemD was sysVInit."Oct 02 13:59
schestowitz"Ah, Okay."Oct 02 14:00
schestowitz"Why are people complaining about the change?"Oct 02 14:00
schestowitzhttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemdOct 02 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for you [ http://ur1.ca/ptxau ]Oct 02 14:00
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8vOct 02 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google wasn't much help with physics homework - ImgurOct 02 14:03
MinceRhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemdOct 02 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Arguments against systemd - Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jwtd5 ]Oct 02 14:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916622Oct 02 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoftOct 02 14:07
schestowitz"Oct 02 14:07
schestowitzHe’s on the wrong side. Generous or not.Oct 02 14:07
schestowitzMaybe there were generous Nazis too…but still it’s on the wrong side.Oct 02 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo CommunityOct 02 14:07
schestowitz"Oct 02 14:07
schestowitzMicrosoft MVPs compared to Nazis... :/ :-SOct 02 14:07
MinceRnazis were pretty evilOct 02 14:09
MinceRstill areOct 02 14:09
cubexyzhopefully we can guilt Lenovo into fixing their biosOct 02 14:10
MinceRand their customer serviceOct 02 14:13
MinceRand their attitudeOct 02 14:13
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cubexyzhelping people use windows isn't really helping themOct 02 14:33
cubexyzeach generation will get more and more dependent on Microsoft and less and less able to do things for themselvesOct 02 14:34
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cubexyzI remember one guy putting a new version of windows on their computer...Oct 02 14:36
cubexyzhe couldn't use his scanner or his printer afterwardsOct 02 14:36
cubexyzhe went out and bought a new printer and new scanner... duh!Oct 02 14:37
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schestowitz[19:03] <MinceR> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8vOct 02 14:45
schestowitzwrong answer.Oct 02 14:45
schestowitzmaybe 'ai' bs failureOct 02 14:45
MinceR:>Oct 02 14:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/782609646133518336Oct 02 14:45
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNWOct 02 14:45
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 14:45
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 02 14:45
TweetTuxMachines@SwellnessYoga   http://twitter.com/SwellnessYoga/status/782611963637620740Oct 02 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 The latest SWELLNESS YOGA! https://t.co/pIYygKwuxTOct 02 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (paper.li) Thanks to @nomondeb73 @tw57704087 @tuxmachinesOct 02 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 #yoga #fitnessOct 02 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | SWELLNESS YOGAOct 02 14:46
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 14:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/782652057161461760Oct 02 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @AntiSoftwarePat @zoobab @schestowitz Have you guys seen Australia's Productivity Commission's IP report? Slams Software PatentsOct 02 14:46
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MinceRhttps://65.media.tumblr.com/363171b17c048cb26acbb9c9ea9f0175/tumblr_odk9o0nqMN1s02vreo1_250.gifOct 02 15:29
cubexyzthe local computer store is selling Gigabyte 5010 no OS computersOct 02 15:38
cubexyzspam alert for tuxmachinesOct 02 15:58
cubexyzfootball streaming linksOct 02 15:58
cubexyzAmerican Football I think :)Oct 02 15:59
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHAOct 02 16:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Banach–Tarski Paradox - YouTubeOct 02 16:18
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/50V1VAB.jpgOct 02 16:28
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DaemonFCschestowitz, They just approved a couple of posts to the ISK2 topic.Oct 02 16:34
DaemonFCI know they're blocking some because one of my posts didn't appear and I've heard from someone else that it took 3 days before theirs did.Oct 02 16:34
DaemonFChttps://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6Oct 02 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6 )Oct 02 16:43
DaemonFCApparently, the 900S is worse. You can't even dump the BIOS at all according to one person on this forum.Oct 02 16:43
DaemonFCIt seems that annoying "Get Windows 10" app was hidden in a critical security update to Internet Explorer.Oct 02 16:45
DaemonFCInteresting.Oct 02 16:45
MinceRhttp://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/151093453030/gdbOct 02 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | gdb - DevOps ReactionsOct 02 17:07
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brendynIs this legit, https://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.html ?Oct 02 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkerer [ http://ur1.ca/ptyq6 ]Oct 02 17:22
MinceRdunno, i pretty much reflexively close that pageOct 02 17:24
MinceRa clean fork would be welcomeOct 02 17:26
MinceRi guess it will be inevitable anyway if noscript updates to fit the chrome-ish API in the newer, shittier failfoxOct 02 17:39
DaemonFCMinceR, Matthew Garrett is retweeting Donald Trump.Oct 02 17:42
MinceRlolOct 02 17:42
DaemonFCI think that Garrett is British. They seem to have no shortage of Trump clones over there.Oct 02 17:42
MinceRindeedOct 02 17:42
MinceRre the second sentenceOct 02 17:42
MinceRdunno about the firstOct 02 17:43
DaemonFCNigel Farage, Boris Johnson....Oct 02 17:43
DaemonFCAt least Garrett can stay over there and screw his own country.Oct 02 17:43
MinceRlooks like we're all screwedOct 02 17:43
DaemonFCYeah, most "Western Democracies" are showing that they don't deserve democracy much more than the Islamic Republics do. :POct 02 17:44
DaemonFCTruly sad. I mean, you'd expect what happens when you give a bunch of Muslims a democracy...Oct 02 17:45
DaemonFCWe get some of the ones that are trying to flee what the others are doing to them.Oct 02 17:45
DaemonFCAnd we get some of the ones that are hardliners too. They come over here and tell us how much they hate us.Oct 02 17:46
MinceRindeedOct 02 17:46
MinceRand the savages in the west are coming out of the woodworkOct 02 17:46
MinceRfor brexit, Golden Dawnald, and for other callsOct 02 17:46
DaemonFCMinceR, It's scary how close Trump is in the polls.Oct 02 17:47
DaemonFCThe fact that he *could* win. The fact that someone like him could come back in 4-8 years and be that close even if he doesn't.Oct 02 17:48
DaemonFCThe only thing that we can really hope for is that demographic shift happens. Clinton gets in and we get business as usual again while the people who like Trump fade a little bit more. (They're dying off but they're dangerous because they know they're fading and so nearly all of them are going to vote.)Oct 02 17:49
DaemonFCThat's what we have going on. He's whipping the vote.Oct 02 17:50
MinceRmaybe we'll find a way to only kill off humans, leaving the rest of the biosphere intactOct 02 17:50
DaemonFCMeanwhile, the other side is lukewarm about Hillary so even though we theoretically outnumber Trump's supporters, the turnout will be lower.Oct 02 17:50
DaemonFCIf it wasn't for Republican voters being older and more of them dying off then Trump would probably win this year.Oct 02 17:51
DaemonFCIf we had an exact repeat of the 2012 election (turnout, demographics, etc.) Obama would have a net total of about 453,000 more votes.Oct 02 17:53
DaemonFCWell, Clinton I mean.Oct 02 17:53
DaemonFCBut she's not making people feel good about voting for her. Her entire campaign is "I'm not Trump.".Oct 02 17:53
MinceRhm, NotTrump sounds pretty goodOct 02 17:54
DaemonFCWould the extra die off on the Republican side help by itself?Oct 02 17:54
DaemonFCDepends on where they die.Oct 02 17:54
DaemonFCThe Electoral College means that if most of them die in, say, Texas, that doesn't really help Clinton.Oct 02 17:55
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/1sDkHgZOct 02 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-420 install it - ImgurOct 02 17:55
DaemonFCIf more of them die in states like Ohio or North Carolina, it could tip the balance.Oct 02 17:55
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DaemonFCI just read Matthew Garrett's response to the Lenovo thing in full.Oct 02 18:24
DaemonFC"The number of people who buy these laptops to run anything but Windows is miniscule[...]" So why increase your support costs?Oct 02 18:24
DaemonFCHmmm. Seems to me that about 2% would eventually install Linux (conservative estimate). If they sell for $1300-$1,500 apiece and people know not to buy them now, that means that for every 1,000 laptops that they would have sold, they now sell 20 fewer units, and those sales go to a competitor.Oct 02 18:26
DaemonFCIf they sell a million laptops, then they lose 20,000 sales to a competitor.Oct 02 18:27
DaemonFCIt might not sound like much, but it is. PC margins are thin because there are a lot of PC OEMs that make computers that are similar and "good enough". Chances are their profit margin is only 3-5%, maybe.Oct 02 18:28
DaemonFCI hear that's the norm in PC sales, and that's for units with crapware, but I'm sure that Lenovo is either getting rebates for participating in Signature or just passed along the cost of not bundling the crapware to me.Oct 02 18:29
DaemonFCRegardless, PC sales have been in decline for years.Oct 02 18:31
DaemonFCLenovo suffered a 4.2% year over year decline in Q4 2015 vs Q4 2014.Oct 02 18:31
DaemonFCDo they really want to go back and say they declined more this quarter? Looks that way.Oct 02 18:31
DaemonFCThey could have released a BIOS patch for Linux users immediately, but they chose to give their customers the middle finger and ride this thing into the ground instead.Oct 02 18:32
DaemonFCI'm sure Dell or HP will appreciate the new customers.Oct 02 18:32
DaemonFCI would have bought an HP Spectre or a Dell XPS had I known.Oct 02 18:32
MinceRdHell doesn't appreciate customers, only their moneyOct 02 18:33
DaemonFCMinceR, They responded by re-enabling the AHCI option instead of lying to their customers.Oct 02 18:34
DaemonFCThat's better than what Lenovo did.Oct 02 18:34
cubexyzit isOct 02 18:34
DaemonFCIt seems like every time I buy a computer, an OEM has done something to fuck up Linux.Oct 02 18:34
DaemonFCUsually something stupid. Usually something I've never seen them do before.Oct 02 18:35
MinceRthey responded to me by claiming the keyboard is not under warranty, and by claiming they have no idea when they'll have replacement partsOct 02 18:35
MinceRalso by replacing the faulty GPU with another faulty GPUOct 02 18:35
MinceRso fuck dHellOct 02 18:35
DaemonFCSo a pattern emerges. And if you approach it as an isolated incident, people say "It was just an innocent mistake.".Oct 02 18:35
DaemonFCBut if they all do it nearly every time they release something, I believe there are....other resons.Oct 02 18:35
DaemonFCShame on Matthew Garrett for excusing this. He's made more blog posts than I can count on how OEMs try to detect Linux and then hand it a shitty configuration.Oct 02 18:36
DaemonFCHe even admitted in one of them that they detect Linux by which version of ACPI it says it supports and then hand it off to the kernel without setting up the audio chipset or telling it there are the wrong number of function keys.Oct 02 18:37
DaemonFCSo he had to patch it to say the same thing Windows returns (2 instead of 5) so that the firmware wouldn't fuck up the configuration before handing off to Linux.Oct 02 18:38
DaemonFCHe doesn't see a problem with that? Oct 02 18:38
DaemonFCOr if he does he blames the vendor.Oct 02 18:38
DaemonFChttps://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/34542.htmlOct 02 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Vendors continue to break thingsOct 02 18:40
DaemonFCThere's the post if anyone is interested.Oct 02 18:40
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cubexyzit's all horse-bleepOct 02 19:10
cubexyzthere's secret stuff in the firmware and you can dance around that all day but in the end you don't know what's going onOct 02 19:11
cubexyzand the newer hardware is much harder to understand than the older stuffOct 02 19:12
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/intel-me-secrets.pdfOct 02 19:16
cubexyzintel's running ThreadX in thereOct 02 19:23
cubexyzit can lock out memory from the host CPUOct 02 19:25
cubexyzmaybe I can visually inspect the board and know if it's got vpro or notOct 02 19:30
cubexyzif it's baked into the CPU (which I suspect it is) then I need a list of CPUs to avoidOct 02 19:31
DaemonFCcubexyz, Wikipedia says it's in the motherboard, but I suspect that it will be in the CPU eventually if it isn't already.Oct 02 19:33
DaemonFCThey've been moving things away from the motherboard and into the CPU. Including the integrated graphics. It's why motherboards are so cheap now.Oct 02 19:34
cubexyzIntel® DH82B85 PCH, no vPro but still has MEOct 02 19:36
cubexyzand they are already up to ME 9.0Oct 02 19:37
DaemonFCcubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware.Oct 02 19:39
cubexyzthere's something called the MEBxOct 02 19:39
cubexyzthe Management Engine BIOS eXtensionOct 02 19:39
DaemonFCSome Intel CPUs seem to be designed to lock up mysteriously after half an hour if the Management Engine isn't working for some reason.Oct 02 19:40
DaemonFCThen you have to make sure the firmware loads or your PC freezes up.Oct 02 19:40
MinceRwhat do chromebooks do about this?Oct 02 19:41
DaemonFCProbably load the ME, MinceR Oct 02 19:41
DaemonFCBut some Chromebooks are ditching Intel.Oct 02 19:41
MinceRafaik they don't load itOct 02 19:42
cubexyzyou can build your own custom BIOS on chromebooksOct 02 19:42
DaemonFCThe Acers seem to be going with ARM now.Oct 02 19:42
MinceR03 013929 < DaemonFC> cubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware.Oct 02 19:42
MinceRthe whole point of "intel boot guard" was to lock alternative firmware (like coreboot and libreboot) out of the marketOct 02 19:42
MinceRit was a very microsoftian moveOct 02 19:42
cubexyzyou can hack on the chromebooks, so I'm not worried about thoseOct 02 19:42
cubexyzI have all that code Oct 02 19:43
DaemonFCMinceR, Eventually it will detect BIOS mods that you flashed in with an external flasher and refuse to boot.Oct 02 19:43
cubexyzif there's anything nasty in there I'll know about itOct 02 19:43
DaemonFCI don't think they're there yet because replacement BIOSes seem to work on the Yoga 900 ISK2 with Skylake.Oct 02 19:43
DaemonFCBut it won't let you flash it in without aa flasher unless there's a signature from Insyde or Lenovo on the ROM.Oct 02 19:44
cubexyzX200 with libreboot is pretty safeOct 02 19:44
DaemonFCIt doesn't seem to use checksum verification because the modded ROM that the guy on Lenovo Forums used wouldn't have matched the ROM that he pulled.Oct 02 19:45
DaemonFCThe only thing the people on the bios-mods forum seem to have done is remove code hiding some BIOS menus that are present but hidden by Lenovo.Oct 02 19:45
DaemonFC"bownairo" said he'd be looking into a way to fool the system into letting you flash without an external flasher.Oct 02 19:46
MinceRit seems to me that if IT is to survive at all, the free software/hardware community will have to take the whole stack in our own handsOct 02 19:46
DaemonFCIf that happens, users can fix their system themselves without a patch from Lenovo.Oct 02 19:46
MinceRwe'll have to figure out how to make cpus and computers from scratchOct 02 19:46
cubexyzwell, the ultimate hack would be your own FPGAOct 02 19:46
MinceRintel and all the others will only try to shit on everything we doOct 02 19:46
MinceRwe'll also need free fpga toolsOct 02 19:46
DaemonFCMinceR, Richard Stallman's solution is probably the easiest.Oct 02 19:47
DaemonFCBuy a laptop from China that uses an ARM platform and was made to run Linux.Oct 02 19:47
DaemonFCIf there was some way to set up a reliable supply chain for those, I'm sure that someone could have a somewhat profitable business selling them to people who want to get away from the Wintel PC and all of the horrible things it does to Linux, totally by accident of course. :POct 02 19:48
MinceRARM isn't very friendly either, afaikOct 02 19:49
DaemonFCMinceR, Depends on who is making them.Oct 02 19:49
MinceRfor every SoC you have to figure out how you can initialize the hw, how you can boot your code, etc.Oct 02 19:49
DaemonFCIt's just an ISA that you can license.Oct 02 19:49
DaemonFCAnyone who can come up with the licensing money can make ARM CPUs.Oct 02 19:49
MinceRand for most SoC makers/designers we are such a tiny part of the market that they just don't care about us at allOct 02 19:49
MinceRsee how far CubieBoard got with their stuffOct 02 19:50
DaemonFCMinceR, Intel's mobile platforms are essentially SoC now.Oct 02 19:50
DaemonFCThey have the controllers for damned near everything in the CPU package.Oct 02 19:50
cubexyzwell IBM Thinkpad 700 is 1992.. I figure that's old enough :)Oct 02 19:50
DaemonFCThat's why it's so hard to get power management right. You used to be able to do power management by component. If you got most of it down, the rest didn't really matter that much.Oct 02 19:50
DaemonFCPutting the SATA controller in low poer mode maybe saved you half a watt.Oct 02 19:51
DaemonFCNow if you can't get that right, the whole system breaks down and you're idling at twice the power consumption you should be at.Oct 02 19:51
DaemonFC*powerOct 02 19:51
DaemonFCAnd if you figure that out, there's half a dozen things that you also need to figure out or you're back in the same boat.Oct 02 19:52
DaemonFCSo I don't expect that Linux will ever have the power management Windows does for Skylake.Oct 02 19:53
MinceRthat depends on whether m$'s final gambits succeed or notOct 02 19:53
DaemonFCIt'll improve, like it has been, but it will reach a point where all of the easier things have been done and people lose interest.Oct 02 19:53
MinceRif they succeed, it's possible that it won't even be legal to run anything but the one government-approved thin client OS anymoreOct 02 19:53
MinceRif they fail, they'll go full patent troll and there won't be a "windows" anymoreOct 02 19:53
DaemonFCWhat really pisses me off to no end is that MS has released probably thousands of patches to individual components of Windows 10 by now, and saying each time that it makes Windows more reliable.Oct 02 19:54
DaemonFCSo why am I still hitting most of the same bugs that were in the first release?Oct 02 19:54
DaemonFCPeople know that and they know that even if the update installs and their machine comes back up that it won't be more reliable. Oct 02 19:55
DaemonFCSo they've taken to disabling the Windows Update service so they don't have a bad update that screws up their data.Oct 02 19:55
DaemonFCThat's not good either.Oct 02 19:55
cubexyzyou can disable AMT control on some intel motherboardsOct 02 19:59
cubexyznow who knows if it can be reactivatedOct 02 19:59
cubexyzbut if you compile your own coreboot BIOS on a chrome-whatever, I feel that is your best betOct 02 20:00
cubexyzor (not ideal) you could just run one old machine Oct 02 20:01
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHCHEykUxP4Oct 02 20:14
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XRevan86MinceR: I suspect where this video is going and I like to see that message covered.Oct 02 20:18
MinceR:)Oct 02 20:18
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55fxyk/lenovo_forums_seems_to_have_possibly_banned_all/Oct 02 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Forums seems to have (possibly?) banned all Comcast users in the state of Illinois in order to try to silence the discussion of Linux on Yoga problems. : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/ptzd9 ]Oct 02 20:19
DaemonFC[–]fringewanderer 1 point an hour ago Oct 02 20:19
DaemonFCWhen you say "no Linux support", do you mean providing and supporting drivers for user Linux installations? If so which hardware components?Oct 02 20:19
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DaemonFC[–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 19 minutes ago Oct 02 20:19
DaemonFCThey wrote BIOS code to hide and write protect the fake "RAID" mode that these damned things ship with in order to fool Windows into loading a different driver with a better power management policy.Oct 02 20:19
DaemonFCSo now you can't install Linux to the SSD, all because they removed the compatible AHCI mode from the BIOS.Oct 02 20:19
DaemonFCProbably the most realistic solution, if anyone ever implements it, will be to have the Linux kernel reset the hardware and put it in AHCI mode on every boot. Then we won't need help from Lenovo or a driver for something that gains us...literally nothing even if someone does write one. :POct 02 20:19
DaemonFCEither way, Lenovo's response is that they broke it, they don't care, and just run Windows 10 and shut up. So don't expect a BIOS patch from them, ever.Oct 02 20:20
DaemonFCDell and some other OEMs shipped like this but them offered a BIOS patch for their customers. Lenovo just doesn't care.Oct 02 20:20
DaemonFCBuy a computer from another company, and make sure they haven't done anything like this first.Oct 02 20:20
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DaemonFC[–]fringewanderer 1 point 5 minutes ago Oct 02 20:20
DaemonFCWhat would be the best-case scenario for current laptop owners? New firmware release that fixes AHCI mode?Oct 02 20:20
DaemonFCBased on what I'm hearing here I guess I'd sum it up as being a cocktail of issues starting with the "bandaid" BIOS fix, then adding passive and poor customer support and topping it all off with forum admins/mods being in the awkward and unempowered position of having no good channels to CS/dev units while also having free reign to handle their own forum situation any way they want.Oct 02 20:20
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DaemonFC[–]BaronHK [S] 1 point a minute ago Oct 02 20:20
DaemonFCBest case: Linux works around the limitation by resetting the hardware as soon as GRUB loads the kernel (GRUB uses the uEFI disk access so it doesn't need to be patched), and then does so every time the machine is rebooted.Oct 02 20:20
DaemonFCLenovo won't fix it. Intel won't release specs on how to handle the RAID mode that Lenovo locked it into. That means it's up to the kernel developers to add a quirk to deal with this case. That hasn't been done yet and I'm not sure it ever will unless a Linux developer actually buys such a laptop and is personally inconvenienced, or fixes it for some other reason. Even then, we know we can't trust Lenovo to not break something else, and we Oct 02 20:20
DaemonFCknow that they don't care if they do. So buy from a different company.Oct 02 20:20
XRevan86MinceR: Yep, it's exactly about what I thought it would be about.Oct 02 20:22
MinceR:)Oct 02 20:23
XRevan86MinceR: I wonder if it should be banned by the "believers feelings protection law" %)Oct 02 20:23
MinceRlolOct 02 20:23
XRevan86MinceR: Pity I can't use that video for people who'd need to see it.Oct 02 20:27
MinceRwhy?Oct 02 20:27
XRevan86MinceR: It's in English.Oct 02 20:27
MinceRicOct 02 20:27
XRevan86Though it has subs but that's not good enough.Oct 02 20:28
MinceRbrendyn: looks like uBlock Origin successfully blocks the offending ads on noscript.netOct 02 20:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144Oct 02 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/Oct 02 20:40
schestowitz"I don’t like HP now what they did with their printers. Uuuugh. I do have an HP printer though."Oct 02 20:40
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schestowitz"Yeah it’s a nice thing HP did with that printer firmware to say f*** off to custom cartridges…"Oct 02 20:40
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I don't really value printing in color, but my printer demands a color cartridge before it will print anything at all.Oct 02 20:42
MinceRreason for a separate grayscale printer :>Oct 02 20:43
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schestowitzGreen party copied me https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/782660240164712449Oct 02 20:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 KernelOct 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2JvgOZ06bj (www.phoronix.com) Linux 4.8Oct 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Released https://t.co/rNbYm7FAoAOct 02 21:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Officially Released, Merge Window for Kernel 4.9 Now OpenOct 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782758631804702721Oct 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 4MRecover 20.0 Data Recovery Live CD Is Now in Beta,Oct 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Includes TestDisk 7.0 https://t.co/hjXgFDk5wIOct 02 21:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782759033065369600Oct 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 Reached End of Life, Upgrade toOct 02 21:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 Lennart’s Look At Systemd This Year, What’s Going ToOct 02 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Happen In 2017 https://t.co/jYcowotBbj (www.phoronix.com)Oct 02 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lennart's Look At Systemd This Year, What's Going To Happen In 2017 - PhoronixOct 02 21:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782760801560035329Oct 02 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 DebEX KDE Live DVD Updated with KDE 4.14.2 and Plasma 5,Oct 02 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.8 RC8Oct 02 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/iYUbBTh6yX (news.softpedia.com)Oct 02 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | DebEX KDE Live DVD Updated with KDE 4.14.2 and Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.8 RC8Oct 02 21:56
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/brexit-who-has-power-to-change-uk-law.html?showComment=1475409336323#c7540450669000843274Oct 02 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Brexit - who has the power to change UK law? [ http://ur1.ca/ptzvb ]Oct 02 22:10
schestowitz"Oct 02 22:10
schestowitz The ECA '72 (passed - obviously - before the '75 referendum and after promises were made that the UK could always veto anything it didn't like - promised by Heath, delivered by Wilson) has within it the seeds of is own destruction. If article 50 is activated then after the two year period there are no obligations "... created or arising under the Treaties ...". Hence no need to repeal the ECA '72 ... in the right circumstances. The question Oct 02 22:10
schestowitzis, what are they?Oct 02 22:10
schestowitzOne line of argument might be that it follows from the above that it is not a matter for parliament to legislate or repeal. The real question might then be whether article 50 is something which can be activated by the government or by the government with the fiat of parliament. It is that uncertainty which will occupy the thinking of the court in the upcoming case. For that reason, whatever the result, it will be helpful.Oct 02 22:10
schestowitzAshley Oct 02 22:10
schestowitz"Oct 02 22:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782513731918004224Oct 02 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @hintjensyour your flickr/yahoo login has been p0wned :-)Oct 02 22:16
DaemonFCHmm. Apparently, Tox split off to uTox. The lead developer was embezzling donation money.Oct 02 22:53
DaemonFCAt least it's open source, so that they can do that.Oct 02 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi: How To Build A Digital Dashboard For AnOct 02 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Older Car [Video] https://t.co/mqu6wOeaWJOct 02 22:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Raspberry Pi: How To Build A Digital Dashboard For An Older Car [Video] : TECH : Tech TimesOct 02 22:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775831189827584Oct 02 22:54
DaemonFCI'm sure that Tixati will eventually bundle spyware or adware or drive by downloads. If it's for Windows and it's proprietary freeware, it's only a matter of time.Oct 02 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian Derivatives https://t.co/kePpWAEvOGOct 02 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Steam Gains https://t.co/NVznjISpEhOct 02 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775833647656960Oct 02 22:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Newly-liberated software | Tux MachinesOct 02 22:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775834759180288Oct 02 22:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/V2Scdvy8y4Oct 02 22:55
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DaemonFChttps://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.htmlOct 02 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkererOct 02 23:38
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DaemonFChttp://fabiensanglard.net/doom3/interviews.phpOct 03 00:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fabiensanglard.net | Doom3 Source Code Review: InterviewsOct 03 00:24
DaemonFCFabien Sanglard - The rendering system is now broken down in a frontend/backend: It reminds me of the design of a compiler which usually has a frontend->IR->backend pipeline. What this inspired by the design of LCC which was used for Quake3 bytecode generation ? I wonder what are the advantages over a monolithic renderer like Doom, idTech1 and idTech2.Oct 03 00:24
DaemonFCJohn Carmack - This was explicitly to support dual processor systems. It worked well on my dev system, but it never seemed stable enough in broad use, so we backed off from it. Interestingly, we only just found out last year why it was problematic (the same thing applied to Rage’s r_useSMP option, which we had to disable on the PC) – on windows, OpenGL can only safely draw to a window that was created by the same thread. We created Oct 03 00:24
DaemonFCthe window on the launch thread, but then did all the rendering on a separate render thread. It would be nice if doing this just failed with a clear error, but instead it works on some systems and randomly fails on others for no apparent reason.Oct 03 00:24
DaemonFCThe Doom 4 codebase now jumps through hoops to create the game window from the render thread and pump messages on it, but the better solution, which I have implemented in another project under development, is to leave the rendering on the launch thread, and run the game logic in the spawned thread.Oct 03 00:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775835832889344Oct 03 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/Wqjy2OkxT2Oct 03 00:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 03 00:37
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DaemonFCschestowitz, http://www.alexstjohn.com/WP/2016/10/02/doom-for-windows/Oct 03 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexstjohn.com | Doom for Windows - The SaintThe SaintOct 03 00:54
DaemonFCThe creator of DirectX isn't pleased with Windows Update.Oct 03 00:55
DaemonFCIt ruined a business meeting and he ended up having to use his customer's Macbook because Windows Update made his computer useless for the whole meeting.Oct 03 00:56
DaemonFCI remember Windows 98...There was no automatic update. YOu had to go to Microsoft's website and have Internet Explorer install the updates.Oct 03 01:03
DaemonFChttp://www.alexstjohn.com/WP/2015/07/27/windows-update-sorry-my-bad/Oct 03 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexstjohn.com | Windows Update... sorry my bad... - The SaintThe SaintOct 03 01:05
DaemonFC"Windows update was born from a technology tragedy that occurred in 1994 that I like to call “The Disney Lion King Disaster” of which I was a central participant."Oct 03 01:05
DaemonFCI remember that.Oct 03 01:05
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Alex St. John: "Windows is obsolete."Oct 03 01:25
DaemonFC"So here’s what’s coming.  One day soon, Microsoft will accidentally blow up millions of machines in a way they can’t recover from.  The evidence is that they have completely lost control of the OS and their ability to maintain it.  A massive scale forced update with the obvious flaws we just experienced has only two obvious explanations."Oct 03 01:30
DaemonFCRyan FarmerOct 03 01:35
DaemonFCJust now · Oct 03 01:35
DaemonFCAlex St. John (Creator of the DirectX API for Windows):Oct 03 01:35
DaemonFC"Windows is obsolete" and one day soon, Microsoft will screw up and send out a forced update to Windows 10 that screws up millions of computers in a way that they can't recover from.Oct 03 01:35
DaemonFCI believe it. The stories of broken updates are flooding into the PC news sites every time MS releases one. If you haven't been hit with one yet, you're lucky.Oct 03 01:35
DaemonFCHe continues,Oct 03 01:36
DaemonFCI used to enjoy writing funny articles about how inept Microsoft was being with consumer stuff but this is a dangerous situation that has already spiraled out of control.  Oh yes, I nearly forgot to tie this together… here’s the text my son had sent me before I walked in to do that presentation;Oct 03 01:36
DaemonFC“Don’t turn on your computer, you’ll get a forced Windows 10 Update that will screw up your machine.  It kept rebooting and updating my machine in class, it took me hours to fix!  There’s alerts all over the Internet about it!”Oct 03 01:36
DaemonFCcubexyz, Yeah, the Chromebook Pixel might have been a better choice.Oct 03 01:39
DaemonFCThey don'tt come with huge amounts of RAM, but it's Linux so you really don't need it.Oct 03 01:39
DaemonFCWindows has always been pretty wasteful with RAM. We're getting to the point now where 16 GB is the "sweet spot" for Windows 10.Oct 03 01:39
DaemonFCAnd you don't even want to consider less than 8.Oct 03 01:40
DaemonFCAround 2002, I was using the "Configure your own Mac Pro." thing on Apple's website and drooling that if I only spent $25,000 I could have a computer with 16 GB of RAM. :)Oct 03 01:42
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DaemonFChttp://news.softpedia.com/news/no-free-upgrades-no-new-users-windows-10-declines-for-first-time-since-launch-508853.shtmlOct 03 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | No Free Upgrades, No New Users: Windows 10 Declines for First Time Since LaunchOct 03 02:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/782825879747559424Oct 03 02:43
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 KernelOct 03 02:43
TweetTuxMachines @lordbaco       https://t.co/2JvgOZ06bj (www.phoronix.com) Linux 4.8Oct 03 02:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Released https://t.co/rNbYm7FAoAOct 03 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 Kernel - PhoronixOct 03 02:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Officially Released, Merge Window for Kernel 4.9 Now OpenOct 03 02:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: "Oct 03 03:07
schestowitzWindows failed to make the leap to new business models and new distributed computing paradigms such that now in the year 2016 Microsoft is on the cutting edge of adopting Apple’s 2007 business model for Windows 10.  Here’s why Microsoft has reached the end of its road.  They lost the mobile market, they lost search, they’re struggling to compete in the cloud and all they have left is a legacy OS with an architecture from the days of Oct 03 03:07
schestowitzpersonal computing when connectivity was something only nerds and IT managers worried about.  Now the idea of personal computer security is collapsing.  It is readily becoming apparent that NOTHING can stop malicious attackers from eventually penetrating the best most advanced security measures of any personal device.  Furthermore, as the Edward Snowden scandal has made plain to us all, if malicious attackers aren’t breaking into our Oct 03 03:07
schestowitzcomputers, then the worlds governments are requiring companies to make their products vulnerable to intrusion.  The idea that a lowly personal computer behind a frail consumer router… made in China… stands any chance of resisting serious hacking attempts is a fast fading dream.Oct 03 03:07
schestowitzBack when I was making online game publishing DRM (Digital Rights Management) Solutions we measured the time it took Chinese and Russian hackers to crack our best latest security attempts in weeks.  Today it can take a matter of days or hours.Oct 03 03:07
schestowitzThe Windows Operating system has become vast, bloated and cumbersome to maintain.  It faces constant security bombardment by the entire worlds connected hacker community and government security agencies.   The volume of patches it needs to maintain even the most rudimentary pretext of stability and security requires a constant and overwhelming flood of Windows updates.  The seriousness of the situation and the sheer flood of data Microsoft Oct 03 03:07
schestowitzis constantly sending to our computers is staggering.  I wanted to show a screen shot of my HUGE Windows Update history but mysteriously, after this most recent disastrous update… Microsoft has seen fit to clear my machine of that information…Oct 03 03:07
schestowitz"Oct 03 03:07
schestowitzI like it...Oct 03 03:07
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DaemonFCschestowitz, That about sums up my experience.Oct 03 03:12
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, Vista 10, some say, will finish themOct 03 03:12
schestowitzbut Lenovo ensures you can't go elsewhereOct 03 03:13
schestowitzmaybe that's the next 'best thing'Oct 03 03:13
schestowitzNext to 'free' upgradesOct 03 03:13
schestowitzand UEFIOct 03 03:13
DaemonFCEvery time you're doing something, another 600 MB-4GB update comes along and wants to monopolize your internet connection, then tie up your computer, and then restart.Oct 03 03:13
DaemonFCIt's verry aggravating.Oct 03 03:13
DaemonFCAnd that's *if* it installs and *if* it restarts.Oct 03 03:13
schestowitzhaOct 03 03:14
schestowitzthe botneyOct 03 03:14
DaemonFCschestowitz, Yeah. They resort to these pathetic obstacles so you can't leave Windows no matter what it does.Oct 03 03:14
schestowitzWUOct 03 03:14
schestowitz(botnetOct 03 03:14
schestowitzmicrosoft is trying to limit choice, says it “loves Linux”, Lies.Oct 03 03:15
DaemonFCYeah, first thing I disabled. The "p2p" updates.Oct 03 03:15
DaemonFCHijack your internet connection and make you pay Microsoft's bandwidth bills to get you to upgrade other people's computers.Oct 03 03:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, Yeah, some people were defending Microsoft because Windows has Bash now, and that's basically all you need Linux for really. :POct 03 03:16
schestowitzColombia’s rejection of a peace deal with Farc rebels to end 52 years of war does not mean an automatic return to hostilities, but it makes the possibility of peace, which had looked close enough to touch, once again a faraway prospect.Oct 03 03:19
schestowitzAll the pieces were in place to begin implementation of a deal that was four years in the making after talks between government and Farc negotiators in Havana. The Farc had ratified the accord at a national conference, President Juan Manuel Santos and Farc leader Timochenko had signed it in a public ceremony and UN monitors were ready to oversee the bringing together and disarmament of the Farc’s 5,800 fighters. The Nobel committee was Oct 03 03:19
schestowitzreportedly considering a peace prize for Colombia.Oct 03 03:19
schestowitzhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/03/colombias-peace-further-away-is-further-away-but-it-may-stillOct 03 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Colombia’s Brexit moment as politicians misjudge popular anger at Farc amnesty | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pu146 ]Oct 03 03:19
schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-colombia-peace-idUSKCN1230BH?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNewsOct 03 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Colombia's Santos, FARC scramble to revive peace after shock vote | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/pu149 ]Oct 03 03:19
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TweetTuxMachines                 Legends of Linux Part 1: Linus TorvaldsOct 03 03:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/j8E5TNk7fc (error)Oct 03 03:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 1: Linus Torvalds | TheINQUIREROct 03 03:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, Hopefully a fix for this RAID mode crap on my laptop can be done for Linux 4.9.Oct 03 03:56
DaemonFCNot counting on it though.Oct 03 03:57
schestowitzmaybeOct 03 04:02
schestowitzbut it should already workOct 03 04:02
schestowitzLenovo doesn't want it toOct 03 04:02
schestowitzkeep chasing themOct 03 04:02
schestowitzthey must be going nuts over youOct 03 04:03
schestowitzhaving special meetings on how to deal with youOct 03 04:03
schestowitzyou cost them many millionsOct 03 04:03
DaemonFChttps://gcoupe.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/the-lenovo-yoga-900-software/Oct 03 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcoupe.wordpress.com | The Lenovo Yoga 900 – Software | Geoff Coupe's BlogOct 03 04:04
DaemonFCschestowitz, According to Lenovo, if you use Windows Anytime Upgrade to get Windows 10 Pro, then they won't support it.Oct 03 04:04
DaemonFCUsers reporting that the Onekey recovery (used if you can't boot into Windows) isn't working for them.Oct 03 04:06
DaemonFCSo not only can you not install Linux or Windows from Microsoft's ISO, the recovery feature may not work and now you have a brick.Oct 03 04:06
DaemonFCWell, I made a special installer in case that happens to me, but it wasn't easy,Oct 03 04:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, Newegg made a reply to it.Oct 03 04:07
DaemonFCThey admitted that you couldn't install Linux on the models I pointed out and pointed out 10 Lenovo laptops that they sell which you can install Linux on.Oct 03 04:08
DaemonFCHow arbitrary...Oct 03 04:08
DaemonFCOh gee, see this company has shit support for Linux and shit support in general, so here's some laptops where you can shoehorn Linux in from this company that you don't want to do business with anyway.Oct 03 04:08
DaemonFCschestowitz, As for Alex St. John's comment that MS is adopting Apple's business model from 10 years ago, that does seem to be the case.Oct 03 04:09
DaemonFCIt'll always be called "Windows 10", they just foist upgrades on you whether you want them or not.Oct 03 04:09
DaemonFCI agree that it could conceivably make the OS more stable, coherent, secure, etc. if it was from anyone but Microsoft.Oct 03 04:10
DaemonFCIn reality it just gives you a mess to deal with once or twice a month.Oct 03 04:10
schestowitzI don't see a connection to AppleOct 03 04:29
schestowitzin his mind, maybe it's still just "Mac vs PC"Oct 03 04:29
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TweetTuxMachines                 Which Raspberry Pi should you choose for your project?Oct 03 05:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MeMz1XF6cD (opensource.com)Oct 03 05:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Which Raspberry Pi should you choose for your project? | Opensource.comOct 03 05:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782860873606033408Oct 03 05:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 3/10/2016: Linux 4.8 Released, Steam Survey ShowsOct 03 05:14
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Growth https://t.co/anlcL0MhlM (techrights.org)Oct 03 05:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/10/2016: Linux 4.8 Released, Steam Survey Shows GNU/Linux Growth | TechrightsOct 03 05:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782873850212077568Oct 03 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Hardware https://t.co/Hr4QpwUU5DOct 03 05:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware | Tux MachinesOct 03 05:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782873851650711552Oct 03 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop: GNU/Linux Bug Reports, Creator of DirectX on theOct 03 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Demise of Microsoft, Vista 10 Share FallsOct 03 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ID2XQXTSee (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 05:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop: GNU/Linux Bug Reports, Creator of DirectX on the Demise of Microsoft, Vista 10 Share Falls | Tux MachinesOct 03 05:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782873852644724737Oct 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/CjAtHb8X8NOct 03 05:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782873853689147392Oct 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/nCRvoGKT5yOct 03 05:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782873854947450881Oct 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines                 DNF 2.0.0 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 1.0.0 ReleasedOct 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/z8jQ01I75B (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 05:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DNF 2.0.0 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 1.0.0 Released | Tux MachinesOct 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/782875864451026944Oct 03 05:41
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TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  GNU/Linux Growth https://t.co/anlcL0MhlM (techrights.org)Oct 03 05:41
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships...'Oct 03 05:41
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '4MRecover 20.0 Data Recovery Live CD Is Now...'Oct 03 05:41
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'DebEX KDE Live DVD Updated with KDE 4.14.2...'Oct 03 05:41
DaemonFChttps://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/81659/microsoft-delivers-yet-another-broken-windows-10-updateOct 03 05:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Delivers Yet Another Broken Windows 10 Update - Thurrott.comOct 03 05:47
DaemonFCPolycrastinator Alpha Member #165 - 1 day agoOct 03 05:47
DaemonFCMicrosoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. Without the option to effectively opt out of these things until they're fixed, staying on Windows 7 - or moving to another platform, eventually - is starting to look like a wiser and wiser choice. Businesses can't afford the down time from failed updates, and with Windows 10 that down time Oct 03 05:47
DaemonFCis starting to feel like an inevitability.Oct 03 05:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 When every Beta closes another Alpha opens…Oct 03 05:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xldVBasi0dOct 03 05:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (marygraphicdesigns.wordpress.com)Oct 03 05:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782881594604457984Oct 03 05:56
TweetTuxMachines                 White Google Pixel and Pixel XL leaked by BellOct 03 05:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/h5VuMLqgkO (www.androidauthority.com)Oct 03 05:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | White Google Pixel and Pixel XL leaked by Bell - Android AuthorityOct 03 05:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782883971726270464Oct 03 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 security things in Linux v4.7 https://t.co/gSPSMV9zvfOct 03 06:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782884335242317825Oct 03 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Phones for Rooting and ModdingOct 03 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KvsCaWDWFL (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 03 06:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Phones for Rooting and Modding | Android CentralOct 03 06:16
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schestowitz[10:47] <DaemonFC> Microsoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. Oct 03 06:24
schestowitzBut rememberOct 03 06:24
schestowitzthey say they're not "cloud first"Oct 03 06:24
schestowitz:-)Oct 03 06:24
schestowitzWindows can wait...Oct 03 06:24
schestowitzThe Clown comes firstOct 03 06:24
schestowitz /s/not/now/Oct 03 06:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782886893746786304Oct 03 06:38
TweetTuxMachines                 DNF 2.0.0 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 1.0.0 ReleasedOct 03 06:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 2.0.0 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 1.0.0 Released | DNFOct 03 06:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782892605927362560Oct 03 06:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/yfZqzN4NAEOct 03 06:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782892608498524160Oct 03 06:38
TweetTuxMachines                 How startups can use open source software to competeOct 03 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                 against the big guys https://t.co/X9qKJGXrbEOct 03 06:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How startups can use open source software to compete against the big guys | Tux MachinesOct 03 06:39
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/xyo8WHNQHNOct 03 06:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 03 06:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782892612839538688Oct 03 06:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/CnXSg15ANROct 03 06:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782917346318880768Oct 03 08:17
TweetTuxMachines                 GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software ForOct 03 08:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/rfxxBzOGeh (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 08:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software For Linux | Tux MachinesOct 03 08:17
cubexyzok, windows being bad is nothing newOct 03 08:28
cubexyzI first thought windows 2.0 was bad in 1987 & 1988Oct 03 08:29
cubexyzthe importance of FOSS didn't cross my mind at the timeOct 03 08:29
cubexyzI just thought windows 2.0 was slowOct 03 08:29
cubexyzprobably the idea that all programs should be FOSS didn't really hit me until my first BIOS contructions around 2010Oct 03 08:31
cubexyzand of course msdos was pretty clumsy in many ways...Oct 03 08:38
cubexyzso can imagine the low opinion the Unix folks had of the 16-bit windows 2.0Oct 03 08:38
MinceRyet another desperate trick to force users to use bìng >> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TQ3hI3ZOct 03 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why bother with proper documentation when there's goo.. Bing* - ImgurOct 03 08:40
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cubexyzyou could live with a closed source BIOS in those days... not nowOct 03 08:42
cubexyzonce you start thinking about firmware the old Sun Ultra series doesn't look too badOct 03 08:44
cubexyzI mean you actually can "svn co svn://openbios.org/openboot/"Oct 03 08:45
cubexyzand you got all the sourceOct 03 08:45
cubexyzok, it's in forth, but still...Oct 03 08:48
cubexyzif you want the least control over your computer then windows 10 is perfect... closed source everything, and even a BIOS that is sometimes hostile to other OSesOct 03 08:53
cubexyzthat's actually much worse than the situation in 1987Oct 03 08:54
cubexyzof course because of chromebooks the situation isn't absolutely worse... only in some waysOct 03 08:57
sag3the future looks bright :)Oct 03 09:00
MinceRthe flashes of nuclear devicesOct 03 09:01
sag3meh, I'll be on my Vault-Tec vault with patented techonology specifically designed to keep me and my family safeOct 03 09:05
sag3nothing can go wrongOct 03 09:05
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cubexyzyou might want to ask John Titor about that :)Oct 03 09:08
MinceRfood will run out eventuallyOct 03 09:08
sag3but cubexyzOct 03 09:11
sag3*cue suspenseful music*Oct 03 09:11
sag3i AM John TitorOct 03 09:11
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/aRd0O0I.pngOct 03 09:13
cubexyzY2K <--- "people will freeze to death"Oct 03 09:14
cubexyzone of his more bogus predictionsOct 03 09:14
sag3the IBM one was interesting thoughOct 03 09:15
sag3"Titor claimed that he was sent back to obtain an IBM 5100 because it could translate several types of computer code. According to IBM engineer Bob Dubke, Titor's statements regarding the IBM 5100's little-known ability to emulate and debug mainframe systems were correct."Oct 03 09:15
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-install-error.pngOct 03 09:19
cubexyzoops, what happened there :)Oct 03 09:19
cubexyzsomething happened, but what?Oct 03 09:20
cubexyzhttp://i.imgur.com/1EJvBg2.gifOct 03 09:21
cubexyzoh another claim... "wordwide nuclear war will kill 3 billion in 2015"Oct 03 09:29
cubexyz"2008 olympics will be cancelled"Oct 03 09:30
cubexyzand the IBM 5100 only had 64K ramOct 03 09:35
cubexyzit could run S/360 APLOct 03 09:36
cubexyzyou can think of the IBM 5100 as a S/360 mainframe that could only run APLOct 03 09:36
cubexyza big S/360 could address 8 megs of ramOct 03 09:38
cubexyzI did some research on a APL timeline:Oct 03 09:39
cubexyzhttp://apl.maxhost.org/apl-timeline.txtOct 03 09:39
cubexyzso APL for the 5100 was derived from the S/360 versionOct 03 09:40
cubexyzso the whole story is bogusOct 03 09:41
cubexyzI run OS/360-MVT sometimes... it's not even that interestingOct 03 09:44
cubexyzonly interesting to techno-historiansOct 03 09:45
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/qvLWVM0.jpgOct 03 11:00
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dblaberMinceR: don't like the sun :)?Oct 03 11:24
dblaberi do think its incredibly stupid that people sit in the sun for hours just for trying to get tanOct 03 11:25
MinceRindeedOct 03 11:28
MinceRthey unnecessarily make their skin degraded and increase the risk of cancerOct 03 11:28
dblaberhowever, i am not going to hide myself from the sun when I am doing something outdoorsOct 03 11:28
dblaberand will use lotion if its going to be extendedOct 03 11:29
MinceRyeah, i don't hide myself either, except for purposes of thermal regulationOct 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782917347589763072Oct 03 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Artificial Intelligence, The Search For The Perfect SlaveOct 03 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XnHI3gborz (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 11:40
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Artificial Intelligence, The Search For The Perfect Slave | Tux MachinesOct 03 11:40
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/f480n1W.jpgOct 03 11:41
schestowitzMinceR: interesting about cancerOct 03 12:00
schestowitzhow accurate is that though?Oct 03 12:00
MinceRaccording to wikipedia, pretty closeOct 03 12:04
MinceRthere are mechanisms that can repair the DNA without killing the cell, but DNA damage always comes with the risk of cancerOct 03 12:05
MinceRand some of the time it does lead to apoptosis to avoid cancerOct 03 12:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782968423072555008Oct 03 12:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782974136335425536Oct 03 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software ForOct 03 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/0DhhlZkMxR (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Oct 03 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software For Linux - LinuxAndUbuntuOct 03 12:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782975883590111236Oct 03 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 'Earthlock: Festival of Magic' 3D RPG now has a LinuxOct 03 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 alpha available https://t.co/GN7Fu2YtuXOct 03 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 03 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/earthlock-festival-of-magic-3d-rpg-now-has-a-linux-alpha-available.8232 )Oct 03 12:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782884777842053125Oct 03 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: Google/Alphabet Inc. is the next Microsoft. Google Play Store most probably includes spyware. https://t.co/1Z0q1dhoJEOct 03 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Remember #microsoft was behind this, remember #android is #linux based, ask yourself if "Microsoft loves Linux" https://t.co/ydQBzeXZg0Oct 03 12:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782895022463070208Oct 03 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz It's a good cop/bad cop model, the way I see it at least. There are government money behind Google just as behind Microsoft.Oct 03 12:19
schestowitzGovernment money isn't the worst among the criteria at stakeOct 03 12:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782895630838620160Oct 03 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz While Google does huge service to free software they were together in PRISM. And there are Android apps for "rooting" a device.Oct 03 12:20
schestowitzPRISM started with Microsoft, then Skype after Microsoft took overOct 03 12:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782896413705433088  https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782897685120552960   https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782897685120552960Oct 03 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz First Androids were literary Java, but wecouldn't run Java apps, only special Android apps. Which is quite Microsoftish thing.Oct 03 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz And Google is the reason proprietary Flash Player is not dead, but installed on billions of new devices today.Oct 03 12:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782898278601986048Oct 03 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz Good cop is still a cop, but it can be really good for us if we keep a healthy distance. That's what I mean.Oct 03 12:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/782969334964649985Oct 03 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz #CronyCapitalism the tax codes written by the elites for the elites & passed by career politicians-dump incumbents for changeOct 03 12:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/joeytwiddle/status/782967795843600386Oct 03 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeytwiddle: Aim for: learn, play, create, teach Avoid: imagine, argue, agree, implement (the latter delivers junk) https://t.co/r6ZI7wTlDmOct 03 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Make it Open Source Not eventually. Not when it's working. Not if you get management approval." - @hintjens https://t.co/lkXmOUo4PBOct 03 12:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782971583531024384   https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782971789228015616Oct 03 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz very oddOct 03 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz the She-Devil would drink blood if she knew that would get votesOct 03 12:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782972143797698560Oct 03 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz @sankofadotorg it's all about getting money and promotionOct 03 12:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AliasHere/status/782973880046456834Oct 03 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AliasHere: .@schestowitz :-))Oct 03 12:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ctheius/status/782980073557073920Oct 03 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ctheius: @schestowitz @DrJillStein how?Oct 03 12:28
schestowitzLess blowback, as the CIA calls it (predicting retaliatory attacks)Oct 03 12:28
schestowitzLess blowback, as the CIA calls it (predicting retaliatory attacks)Oct 03 12:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782980620381147138Oct 03 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz @DrJillStein serious? It's about all the trillions of dollars that disappear and nobody knows where it wentOct 03 12:29
schestowitzShe goes by the official figures, no black budget. I pointed this out to her last night.Oct 03 12:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ctheius/status/782981240185954307Oct 03 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ctheius: @schestowitz @DrJillStein A weaker military makes you weaker, non-intervention is ok, crippling our means of staying isolationist is not.Oct 03 12:31
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TweetTuxMachines                 Become a Vampire hunter in 'Slayer Shock' now out in fullOct 03 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 with Linux support https://t.co/Yjvj8SXo9lOct 03 13:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994734780252160Oct 03 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Arduino on Arduino battle ends in reconciliation, mergerOct 03 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XDi4PTcGWv (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 13:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino on Arduino battle ends in reconciliation, merger | Tux MachinesOct 03 13:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994735866613761Oct 03 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/QoHP1yUKg0Oct 03 13:24
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MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dd3.jpgOct 03 13:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994736961298432Oct 03 14:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Dutch transparency advocates asking for open source, toOct 03 14:26
TweetTuxMachines                 get open data https://t.co/KBvSiZF8owOct 03 14:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/782997342718980096Oct 03 14:26
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/08YYFzb.jpgOct 03 14:27
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schestowitzMinceR: cheersOct 03 14:33
MinceR:)Oct 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783010279026229248Oct 03 14:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/gRi6Y5BtYKOct 03 14:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 03 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Most Secure Android Phone | Android CentralOct 03 14:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013218948120576Oct 03 14:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013493989670917Oct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key toOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/mCh0e8WAZ2Oct 03 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, securityOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013692929634305Oct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems overOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Ethernet Switches https://t.co/N8qdEI2UQE (insidehpc.com)Oct 03 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over Ethernet Switches - insideHPCOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013745479921664Oct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key toOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/2wOG6KXS3tOct 03 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, security | Tux MachinesOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013746524364800Oct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems overOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Ethernet Switches https://t.co/DtRGjiwlheOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over Ethernet Switches | Tux MachinesOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013747665178625Oct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on LinuxOct 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lMVtPf852n (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Tux MachinesOct 03 14:40
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/D6bZBSc.jpgOct 03 14:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013829705891840Oct 03 15:15
TweetTuxMachines                 ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on LinuxOct 03 15:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OBPbpCu1sn (www.linux.com)Oct 03 15:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationOct 03 15:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783015147338141696Oct 03 15:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap AppsOct 03 15:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hfRElGIlw5 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 03 15:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap Apps - OMG! Ubuntu!Oct 03 15:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783021093254787076Oct 03 15:15
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More DriversOct 03 15:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/R4P8O19Sho (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 15:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More Drivers - PhoronixOct 03 15:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/783026218782355460Oct 03 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz voting for you Jill will help Donald Trump win. Thank you :-)Oct 03 15:30
schestowitzOrdering fish at a restaurant gives you beef. Or something...Oct 03 15:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783022583738433536Oct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9 features overview/previewOct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PPVOkepflK (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9's CPUFreq To Make Greater Use Of Scheduler Info, IOWait Boosting - PhoronixOct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8k37rho2du (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EFI Test Driver Added To The Mainline Linux 4.9 Kernel - PhoronixOct 03 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9 On x86_64 To Support Vmapped Stacks - PhoronixOct 03 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mellanox Platform Support Coming In Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783025766460260352Oct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 "In the months ahead the Linux kernel should startOct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 receiving the work out of the "make-wifi-fast"Oct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 initiative" https://t.co/Kv8Srz2Qoo (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Should Soon Start Receiving "Make WiFi Fast" Improvements - PhoronixOct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783027063515189248Oct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch eraOct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EQuaMZpdMj (www.techphylum.com)Oct 03 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch era | TECHPHYLUM.COMOct 03 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783027809132376064Oct 03 15:50
TweetTuxMachines                 #Mesos and #Kubernetes on a hybrid (IBM Power and x86)Oct 03 15:50
TweetTuxMachines                 architecture scenario https://t.co/6tfHC4c03M-Oct 03 15:50
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/E1R1PBM.jpgOct 03 16:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031481148973056Oct 03 16:07
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8Oct 03 16:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/belAm7Posa (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 16:07
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8 | Tux MachinesOct 03 16:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031482143035393Oct 03 16:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd bug in the News https://t.co/y0pUz3zArKOct 03 16:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 16:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd bug in the News | Tux MachinesOct 03 16:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031483258638336Oct 03 16:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9 Preview https://t.co/KJWaOGnrtIOct 03 16:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 16:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9 Preview | Tux MachinesOct 03 16:07
MinceRhttps://linux.ucla.edu/~eqy/molasses.htmlOct 03 16:16
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MinceRhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1901544/google-promotes-controversial-claim-its-not-possible-for-ethnic-minorities-to-be-racist-against-white-people/Oct 03 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Google promotes claim it's NOT possible for ethnic minorities to be racist against white peopleOct 03 16:28
MinceRhttps://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14563457_347374705611461_369513723668309429_n.png?oh=c5ae032410e0b8a6029129847b41d826&oe=5871EC28Oct 03 16:42
XRevan86MinceR: I start to wonder more and more what exactly is a "white" person, and people of colour.Oct 03 16:44
MinceRit's not discrete at allOct 03 16:44
XRevan86Apparently it doesn't mean "Caucasian" because a lot of Caucasian people are being called coloured.Oct 03 16:46
XRevan86Like MexicansOct 03 16:46
XRevan86And it doesn't mean "Usonian" because I think I would have been called a white person while being far outside of US in a barely developed country.Oct 03 16:47
MinceR:>Oct 03 16:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/vinnyoh89/status/783045439524212737Oct 03 16:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vinnyoh89: @coryxoxo @schestowitz never mind the fact that right to work states pay workers less and give less benefitsOct 03 16:47
XRevan86it also doesn't mean being part of the developed world because I'm "white" and Japanese aren'tOct 03 16:48
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuropidOct 03 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasian race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaOct 03 16:48
schestowitzMinceR: trueOct 03 16:48
schestowitzthe whole premise of the article is dumbOct 03 16:48
XRevan86MinceR: But Mexicans are "coloured"Oct 03 16:48
MinceRwell, this crybully claim about "reverse" racism is stupidOct 03 16:49
XRevan86while being EuropioidOct 03 16:49
MinceRthey just want to be bigots and have people accept itOct 03 16:49
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/YimX0m6Oct 03 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Word needs too revise its grammar - ImgurOct 03 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783035676740751361Oct 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0Oct 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c85fV9HGbM (techrights.org)Oct 03 17:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 https://t.co/c85fV9HGbM'Oct 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049724345536512Oct 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/ZwM0B8Hj2iOct 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0 | TechrightsOct 03 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesOct 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049725465419776Oct 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/rVoNyHRZ0JOct 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux MachinesOct 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049726706888704Oct 03 17:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/bAxYyGgBayOct 03 17:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 17:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesOct 03 17:04
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StitesIn the USA the Federal Appeals Court for the Federal Circuit has issued a ruling by a 3 judge panel throwing out a software patent.  Two judges issued an opinion saying the software patent was invalid for the usual mundane reasons.  The third judge, Judge Meyer, agreed with the other 2 judges and then added 2 more reasons.  Judge Meyer's second reason is that no software is patentable ever.  This is HUGE!  Here is the text of JudgeOct 03 17:20
Stiteshttp://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.htmlOct 03 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | First Amendment Finally Reaches Patent Law | Patently-OOct 03 17:20
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stites_You need to read this:  http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.htmlOct 03 17:22
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schestowitzseen itOct 03 17:34
schestowitzcovered this morningOct 03 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049727801602048Oct 03 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/EjWtd8GxsPOct 03 17:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 03 17:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049728850145280Oct 03 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/bQMwD6RQH0Oct 03 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 17:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 03 17:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063614571835393Oct 03 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 HackMIT meets Fedora https://t.co/A9CBX0EkTbOct 03 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)Oct 03 17:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063905878827008Oct 03 18:26
TweetTuxMachines                 A tiny PC as a router  https://t.co/oDgLTQsNZUOct 03 18:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.liw.fi)Oct 03 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.liw.fi | A tiny PC as a routerOct 03 18:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783066548143583233Oct 03 18:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8Oct 03 18:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0DZINaEYrp (padovan.org)Oct 03 18:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-padovan.org | Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8 – Gustavo PadovanOct 03 18:26
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/hpKWIi9.jpgOct 03 18:28
schestowitzbambi?!Oct 03 18:39
schestowitzMinceR: methinks you have a kickass addictionOct 03 18:40
MinceR:)Oct 03 18:41
MinceRno, just found a dump on imgurOct 03 18:41
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MinceRhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/stupid-design-patent-month-rectangles-screenOct 03 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Stupid Design Patent of the Month: Rectangles on a Screen | Electronic Frontier FoundationOct 03 19:07
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DaemonFCI decided to sign up with a per-mile car insurance plan. Little creepy, but the pricing is good.Oct 03 19:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 03 21:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118646746808320Oct 03 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6Oct 03 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 SoCs https://t.co/rjeoQ7LYga (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 21:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 SoCs | Tux MachinesOct 03 21:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118647820640256Oct 03 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source for Business: Pros and ConsOct 03 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HotCqJfxFL (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 21:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source for Business: Pros and Cons | Tux MachinesOct 03 21:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118648948826112Oct 03 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia BackendOct 03 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Brings Updated Components https://t.co/HCbaeIz67oOct 03 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 21:37
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DaemonFCschestowitz, What do you think about that?Oct 03 22:05
DaemonFCPlug in a device that records how much you drive and just pay for what you use.Oct 03 22:05
DaemonFCThere's a small base rate (like $17.62 a month for me) and then a per-mile fee depending on what insurance options you get (2.2 cents per mile for me).Oct 03 22:05
DaemonFCIf I'm correct, I should average $20 a month this way where I pay $60 now.Oct 03 22:06
DaemonFCWhat I'm paying now is essentially a huge subsidy for other people who drive a lot.Oct 03 22:06
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DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/Oct 03 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : LenovoOct 03 22:33
DaemonFCschestowitz, Someone commented.Oct 03 22:33
DaemonFC[–]195one 1 point 18 minutes ago Oct 03 22:33
DaemonFCGLTY. I must surely hold the record. Lenovo has been performing warranty work on my device since APRIL 11, 2016. They still have it.Oct 03 22:33
DaemonFCA Lenovo Forums moderator replied a few days ago and then deleted the message a few minutes later.Oct 03 22:34
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now Oct 03 22:35
DaemonFCI've heard a few others tell me this. So the moral of the story is "Don't buy the extended warranty because the one that came with the machine is already useless. Their repair center is actually a black hole.".Oct 03 22:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118650119036928Oct 03 22:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Git 2.10 Version Control System Gets Its First PointOct 03 22:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Release, Adds 94 Changes https://t.co/6yFIdC3OGsOct 03 22:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 22:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.10 Version Control System Gets Its First Point Release, Adds 94 Changes | Tux MachinesOct 03 22:38
DaemonFCschestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything.Oct 03 22:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118651138281472Oct 03 22:39
TweetTuxMachines                 What’s new in PostgreSQL 9.5 https://t.co/nEX279EXoSOct 03 22:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 22:39
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s new in PostgreSQL 9.5 | Tux MachinesOct 03 22:39
DaemonFCThey even paid to ship it both ways.Oct 03 22:39
DaemonFCI shuld hve bought the Spectre.Oct 03 22:40
DaemonFC*shouldOct 03 22:40
DaemonFCI've heard people tell me they use Linux on their HP Spectre and are very pleased with it.Oct 03 22:40
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DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55odat/new_lenovo_windows_10_laptops_launch_in_india/Oct 03 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | New Lenovo Windows 10 laptops launch in India : LenovoOct 03 22:46
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 03 22:47
DaemonFCSince it has a HDD it will probably even run Linux. Probably.Oct 03 22:47
DaemonFCI bought into the idea of a fast SSD because I do't like waiting on the computer to pull up data from the HDD, and while the SSD is crazy fast and I don't plan to ever use a HDD again, the way Lenovo configured this SSD is insane, and therefore, Linux won't run.Oct 03 22:47
DaemonFCApparently even Newegg Business tried to get out in front of my revelation by saying "Sure those Lenovo laptops won't run Linux, but here's 10 that do.". Like that makes everything better or something. It's like walking through a minefield.Oct 03 22:47
DaemonFCMost of the Linux compatible Lenovo models either have a hard drive or are on AMD's platform. If they are Intel-based, they seem to be last year's models that we already knew run Linux.Oct 03 22:47
DaemonFCIn other words, a smorgasbord of cheap crap and yesterday's news.Oct 03 22:47
DaemonFCDon't trust Lenovo further than you can throw a Buick.Oct 03 22:47
DaemonFCAs for another problem with Lenovo, I've now talked to several people who sent theirs in for a warranty repair....to a black hole apparently....one told me that they sent it in back in June and Lenovo keeps making excuses for why it hasn't been sent back yet. I thought that was bad until someone else told me theirs has been with Lenovo since April.Oct 03 22:50
DaemonFCIn my experience, HP paid to ship my old Presario laptop both ways and fixed the touchpad, for free, three years after the warranty expired, and they even updated the BIOS while it was in there. Turnaround time was all of a week.Oct 03 22:51
DaemonFCNow we know how Lenovo can have impossibly low prices. Aside from all thirty pieces of crapware that comes wth their non-Signature PCs, they get kickbacks for locking all of their Signature PCs so you can't run Linux on them per a Microsoft agreement, and then they cut customer service to the bone so you get people that can't troubleshoot simple problems and a repair center that is backed up for 8 months and/or might have actually lose your Oct 03 22:53
DaemonFClaptop.Oct 03 22:53
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/Oct 03 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : LenovoOct 03 23:00
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 03 23:00
DaemonFCFailure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold.Oct 03 23:00
DaemonFC"Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo."Oct 03 23:00
DaemonFC[...]Oct 03 23:00
DaemonFCSorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason:Oct 03 23:00
DaemonFCLenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2Oct 03 23:00
DaemonFCError:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program.Oct 03 23:00
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55a516/is_your_lenovo_yoga_900_reliable/Oct 03 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is your Lenovo Yoga 900 reliable? : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/pu5mo ]Oct 03 23:07
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 03 23:07
DaemonFCIf you never want to install Linux or be able to reinstall Windows from MS if your pre-installed Windows is screwed up and Onekey recovery doesn't work...Oct 03 23:07
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/Oct 03 23:07
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/Oct 03 23:07
DaemonFCIf you want to send your laptop in for repair and have them still make excuses when you don't have it 8 months later...Oct 03 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Warning: Microsoft Signature PC program now requires that you can't run Linux. Lenovo's recent Ultrabooks among affected systems. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/prx4h ]Oct 03 23:07
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/Oct 03 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ]Oct 03 23:07
DaemonFCThen by all means, buy Lenovo.Oct 03 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : LenovoOct 03 23:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://en.yibada.com/articles/164482/20161003/lenovo-motorola-google-smartphone-mobile.htmOct 03 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.yibada.com | Lenovo shutting down; employee layoffs a precursor? : Tech : YibadaOct 03 23:18
DaemonFCSpeculation that Lenovo risks going under.Oct 03 23:18
DaemonFCBasically saying everything I did. Oct 03 23:20
DaemonFCNo new products. Shutting down and cannibalizing entire divisions. What happened to Motorola is essentially a write-off.Oct 03 23:21
DaemonFCSeems like there is much to go on that leads towards Lenovo failing.Oct 03 23:32
DaemonFCLike other failing companies, they were desperate for cash to the point of letting Microsoft ensure their ruin in exchange for a short-term payoff.Oct 03 23:32
DaemonFCLinspire limped along for a little while from the money in the Microsoft agreement. Michael Robertson probably figured that he would shut the company down one day and keep it all for himself. Kevin Carmony, as CEO, dipped into it to pay their employees a severance package. Robertson sued trying to get it back and lost.Oct 03 23:33
DaemonFCCarmony seems like a decent guy in my opinion.Oct 03 23:34
DaemonFCThere was no saving Linspire as a company after Ubuntu got to the point where it was at.Oct 03 23:37
dblaberis ubuntu still where it was in the past :)?Oct 04 00:03
DaemonFChttps://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/Oct 04 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Mozilla Foundation Security Advisories — MozillaOct 04 00:38
DaemonFC18 security vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 49. Of those, 12 were applicable to Firefox 45 ESR and closed in 45.4.Oct 04 00:39
DaemonFCNoScript *might* offer protection, but the author is peddling malware on his own website now.Oct 04 00:40
DaemonFCThat makes 103 security vulnerabilities closed in Firefox so far this year.Oct 04 00:42
DaemonFCActually, more, since some of them are actually multiple bugs put in the same advisory. Oct 04 00:42
DaemonFCSuch as "Miscellaneous memory safety hazards".Oct 04 00:43
DaemonFCMiscellaneous memory safety hazards (rv:48.0 / rv:45.3) actually contains 9 bugs in one advisory.Oct 04 00:43
DaemonFCThose actually hide 59 more bugs inside themOct 04 00:47
DaemonFCFor a total of 162.Oct 04 00:47
DaemonFCThat puts them on track for 216 security vulnerabilities closed this year.Oct 04 00:48
DaemonFCThat's not as bad as Flash. Flash had 315 closed last year.Oct 04 00:48
DaemonFCBasically, adding Flash very likely gives you more vulnerabilities than existed in the entire web browser before.Oct 04 00:49
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DaemonFChttps://techcrunch.com/2016/10/03/walmartlabs-open-sources-the-application-platform-that-powers-walmart-com/Oct 04 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WalmartLabs open sources the application platform that powers Walmart.com | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/pu73o ]Oct 04 03:09
DaemonFCIt looks like Lenovo forums is down.Oct 04 03:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 The October 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS MagazineOct 04 05:52
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schestowitz[03:39] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything.Oct 04 06:03
schestowitzMy main laptop, an HP, is reliableOct 04 06:03
schestowitznever had to repair anything yet (since 2009)Oct 04 06:04
schestowitzthe chromebook is another matter, returned it to the shopOct 04 06:04
schestowitz(HP 14)Oct 04 06:04
schestowitzHP Chromebook 14 or whatever they called itOct 04 06:04
schestowitzseems like others reported the same issued with itOct 04 06:04
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schestowitz[05:03] <dblaber> is ubuntu still where it was in the past :)?Oct 04 06:12
schestowitzMore server focusOct 04 06:12
schestowitzI guess the desktop has been used to promote the brand, among other thingsOct 04 06:13
schestowitzlike packaging formatsOct 04 06:13
schestowitzUbuntu is now used a lot where Debian used to be usedOct 04 06:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pceebee23: @AngusMacNeilSNP @schestowitz inevitable...now... little england lost in a myth of EmpireOct 04 06:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/783245277851451393Oct 04 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz yes it is, and one clearly cannot patent speech.Oct 04 06:17
schestowitzThere was a patent lawsuit over speech rec recently. High profile...Oct 04 06:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783249738791587840Oct 04 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @hintjens I want my villa!Oct 04 06:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 26 open source projects from Linux's 25 yearsOct 04 06:31
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TweetTuxMachines                 Looks like Homefront: The Revolution might be gearing upOct 04 06:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 The Mi Box is officially launching today for $69Oct 04 08:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! Oct 04 08:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 Sysprof Plans for #gnome 3.24  https://t.co/KbiJDjUBIwOct 04 08:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right FirewallOct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Distribution https://t.co/8T5ivhKO0WOct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 08:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right Firewall Distribution | Tux MachinesOct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286934458109952Oct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines                 OSI Welcomes Powering Potential: Open Source AdvocatesOct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Extending Education in Tanzania https://t.co/mssWewnztSOct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 08:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286935615746048Oct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/bjVKj6CeCrOct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 08:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286936580468736Oct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/4nAkI22kOtOct 04 08:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 08:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286937738108929Oct 04 09:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel News https://t.co/KqyhyBQcNpOct 04 09:06
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7923062Oct 04 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Social [control] media does not punish people for racism, terror, 'trolling' etc. as it claims. Now even ciriticising religion or police is verboten?Oct 04 09:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783292183768080386Oct 04 10:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones,Oct 04 10:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more!Oct 04 10:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kTM3d25XxB (techcrunch.com)Oct 04 10:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones, Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more! | TechCrunchOct 04 10:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783293006094934016Oct 04 10:00
TweetTuxMachines                 AppData content ratings for games shipped in FedoraOct 04 10:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/b5uwTrXvUU (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)Oct 04 10:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305810596159490Oct 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Why health implants should have open source codeOct 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/y98CJSxdBE (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 10:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why health implants should have open source code | Tux MachinesOct 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305812672294913Oct 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/gA9rcA07yWOct 04 10:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305813787938817Oct 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora News https://t.co/1BUY6o04Ud (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 10:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora News | Tux MachinesOct 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305815721598981Oct 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/Lw0BaasU9W (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 10:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesOct 04 10:01
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKyErEjxiEOct 04 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iFhone 8 Commercial Leaked! - YouTubeOct 04 10:19
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MinceR(short-lived link) https://i.4cdn.org/b/1475569857122.webmOct 04 10:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305817109909505Oct 04 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian News https://t.co/Y9KrOeQPqx (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 10:31
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 10:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News | Tux MachinesOct 04 10:31
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schestowitzMinceR: 4chan?Oct 04 10:35
schestowitzseems like they'e going bust soonOct 04 10:35
MinceRindeedOct 04 10:35
MinceRafaik they jumped the shark long ago anywayOct 04 10:36
schestowitzit's funny, but offensive to most womenOct 04 10:38
schestowitzso I won't post itOct 04 10:38
MinceR:>Oct 04 10:41
MinceRthe link won't last more than a few hours anywayOct 04 10:41
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/tc5-1.jpgOct 04 10:50
MinceR(audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475545742389.webmOct 04 10:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/783311496298233856Oct 04 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: because it's well known all terrorists are unable to find £17.50 down the back of the sofa.... https://t.co/MxCQuSsrJPOct 04 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Let travellers pay £17.50 to beat queues at airport #security https://t.co/tUpXLHrKfq more proof that it really is security theaterOct 04 10:51
schestowitzMinceR: nice swingOct 04 10:54
schestowitzbad outcomeOct 04 10:54
MinceR:)Oct 04 10:54
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MinceR>"We are going to be a fully-independent, sovereign country, a country that is no longer part of a political union with supranational institutions that can override national parliaments and courts," she said to applause.Oct 04 10:58
MinceRoh, they're going to leave the Commonwealth and kick out the royal family? :>Oct 04 10:58
schestowitzHAhahahahahahaOct 04 10:59
razielle_tzulolOct 04 10:59
XRevan861Another thing I keep wondering about is "national".Oct 04 11:04
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MinceR"nation" is an idea invented to get people to gang up on other people, usually to kill them for the oppressors' profitOct 04 11:05
XRevan86I guess the thing here is classical "us" and "them": "them" Germans/French can't dictate "their" will on "us", Britains, lords, the queen, the peasants alike.Oct 04 11:08
XRevan86* BritonsOct 04 11:08
MinceRthe classic forgetting that "them" also includes UKOct 04 11:08
MinceRand of course trying to have their cake and eat it tooOct 04 11:09
MinceRi wonder what the EU people think about thatOct 04 11:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783313648068460544Oct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 "I just want to run a container!" https://t.co/iMTtd6HXpQOct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (jvns.ca)Oct 04 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | "I just want to run a container!" - Julia EvansOct 04 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783320852414750720Oct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 'Quadrilateral Cowboy' released for Linux, aOct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 single-player adventure in a cyberpunk worldOct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0oIh6Z1zQK (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 04 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323157805535232Oct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with ComprehensiveOct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Features https://t.co/6MtQHRuHfm (dot.kde.org)Oct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yYQMB8wc2V (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 11:11
XRevan86While common people today have much better chances of communicating with common people from other countries than with lords of their own.Oct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZRjcy023Ms (news.softpedia.com)Oct 04 11:11
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with Comprehensive Features | KDE.newsOct 04 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Officially Released - PhoronixOct 04 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Celebrates Its 20th Anniversary with the Release of KDE Plasma 5.8 LTSOct 04 11:11
XRevan86and, obviously, share much more interests with them than with the "elite".Oct 04 11:12
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TsiqumPOct 04 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-People like to pretend there's nothing wrong with Eclipse. I don't. - ImgurOct 04 11:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JotsandTitters/status/783322617528750084Oct 04 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JotsandTitters: @schestowitz @wikileaks $$$ the key objectiveOct 04 11:20
schestowitz[16:09] <MinceR> i wonder what the EU people think about thatOct 04 11:21
schestowitzback to the 1970sOct 04 11:21
schestowitzI didn't vote for brexitOct 04 11:21
razielle_tzume neitherOct 04 11:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LaurelCatherine/status/783322765713637378Oct 04 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LaurelCatherine: Well us good guys won that skirmish but the rodents never cease their chewing thru at wall https://t.co/xxu947oWhgOct 04 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Federal Court Says Ballot Selfie Ban Is Like Burning Down the House to Roast a Pig https://t.co/YqVRnSbwoa good analogy?Oct 04 11:22
MinceRi mean, the people who call the shots in the EU, the people these brexiters will negotiate with to try and keep all the advantages of the deal while getting rid of all the disadvantagesOct 04 11:23
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/IUgHMDM.jpgOct 04 11:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323563046514689Oct 04 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd is not Magic Security DustOct 04 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pkcyMn9nUP (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 11:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust | Tux MachinesOct 04 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323565420531714Oct 04 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux RoutersOct 04 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a227K7iCao (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 11:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux Routers | Tux MachinesOct 04 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783324385998430210Oct 04 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 "In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet for Gentoo asOct 04 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 contributor to the youbroketheinternet-overlay."Oct 04 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lMvAggQOjH (gnunet.org)Oct 04 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnunet.org | GNUnet for Gentoo | GNUnetOct 04 11:44
schestowitzMinceR: niceOct 04 11:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783331749027807232Oct 04 11:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI SupportOct 04 11:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6v3yWusNSc (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 11:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI Support - PhoronixOct 04 11:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783332235575517184Oct 04 11:56
TweetTuxMachines                 AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9Oct 04 11:56
TweetTuxMachines                 DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 11:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - PhoronixOct 04 11:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783334538462257152Oct 04 11:56
TweetTuxMachines                 SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late ForOct 04 11:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9 https://t.co/48iU37EdIT (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 11:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late For Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 04 11:56
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/iAZ7oFF.jpgOct 04 12:13
MinceRhttp://www.truthdig.com/report/item/7_questions_mike_pence_should_asked_vice_president_debate_20161004Oct 04 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here Are 7 Questions Mike Pence Should Be Asked at the Vice Presidential Debate - TruthdigOct 04 12:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342749571350530Oct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Tools Released https://t.co/N42hE1qDgYOct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Tools Released | Tux MachinesOct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342750980636672Oct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Graphics https://t.co/FOHY9CyoqJOct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux MachinesOct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342751953727488Oct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For LinuxOct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BX83lq8bPq (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Tux MachinesOct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342752985526273Oct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To UniversityOct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Lawyers https://t.co/9lYvFIgMMV (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 12:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To University Lawyers | Tux MachinesOct 04 12:27
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MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/20sign-1-1.jpgOct 04 12:39
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/8sign-3-1.jpgOct 04 12:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342754168385536Oct 04 12:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQAOct 04 12:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tFlJk97AIl (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 12:51
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQA | Tux MachinesOct 04 12:51
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now...'Oct 04 12:51
schestowitzMinceR: https://twitter.com/mickaelistria/status/783349449586343936Oct 04 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mickaelistria: @schestowitz Yup, there's something wrong here... Can you please report it to https://t.co/HVNrbTJQGQ ?Oct 04 12:55
schestowitzMinceR: maybe they think I took this shotOct 04 12:56
MinceRlolOct 04 12:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783348773422587912Oct 04 12:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCEOct 04 12:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EyzSHDj5Eg (blog.lxde.org)Oct 04 12:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lxde.org | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | LXDE BlogOct 04 12:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783349420922433536Oct 04 12:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For LinuxOct 04 12:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iXpIozoAsu (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Oct 04 12:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux - LinuxAndUbuntuOct 04 12:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/christianlawre2/status/783350068216602625Oct 04 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@christianlawre2: @schestowitz @wikileaks you worship hillary clinton. You don't know the truth, anymore. you think her lies are the truth and truth are lies.Oct 04 12:59
schestowitz:-)Oct 04 13:00
schestowitzCute.Oct 04 13:00
schestowitzI worship HRC :-)Oct 04 13:00
schestowitzI didn't know...Oct 04 13:00
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/xsIXZwR.jpgOct 04 13:21
schestowitzniceOct 04 13:27
schestowitzLinus spoke about the pressure thingOct 04 13:27
schestowitzafter he flew inside a fighter hetOct 04 13:27
schestowitz*jetOct 04 13:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783284882042564609Oct 04 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: My friend @hintjens pushed our meeting at the hospital to 5PM instead of noon. Shit, I wanted to say goodbye!Oct 04 13:32
MinceRhttps://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1h1cyg/whats_the_most_intellectual_joke_you_know/Oct 04 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's the most intellectual joke you know? : AskRedditOct 04 13:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783352897673293825Oct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT https://t.co/wofTyAW9q6Oct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Oct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT • The RegisterOct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362905378959364Oct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/LiYEqC58UzOct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362906435883009Oct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDEOct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/M0ifUoX8g3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDE | Tux MachinesOct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362907581001728Oct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 System Administration https://t.co/CxzLmf3CyeOct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System Administration | Tux MachinesOct 04 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362908575059969Oct 04 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 LXDE Performance https://t.co/p73KPlil8eOct 04 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 13:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXDE Performance | Tux MachinesOct 04 13:48
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/9HsBaOh.jpgOct 04 14:14
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/3sf36Eo.pngOct 04 14:15
XRevan86base AOct 04 14:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RayNeutrino/status/783368979280789506Oct 04 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RayNeutrino: Yes #JillStein is the only candidate supported by the efforts of the common people https://t.co/8se3usvAwpOct 04 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @DrJillStein @ajamubaraka That's because Greens are not funded by corporations and wealthy donors who expect silence in returnOct 04 14:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/783372052371681280Oct 04 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: In computing systems as in life systems, seems #diversity is #resilience; whereas #hegemony is #death: #sysvinit… https://t.co/7CDSdC5nfOOct 04 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: In computing systems as in life systems, seems #diversity is #resilience; whereas #hegemony is #death: #sysvinit… https://t.co/7CDSdC5nfOOct 04 14:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362909757812736Oct 04 14:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Evolving Your Open Source Project Infrastructure: There'sOct 04 14:57
TweetTuxMachines                 No Such Thing As Done https://t.co/naq1NbzzyOOct 04 14:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 14:57
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Evolving Your Open Source Project Infrastructure: There's No Such Thing As Done | Tux MachinesOct 04 14:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783378167666995200Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim BurkeOct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eUBzhPctUL (error)Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIREROct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783379531256176640Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked byOct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 retailer https://t.co/yfAg09JsmLOct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked by retailer - Android AuthorityOct 04 15:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783381570321207296Oct 04 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @schestowitz @wikileaks Considering,,, https://t.co/4cHeSHZ3EnOct 04 15:05
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/gg924kf.jpgOct 04 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@ender74dev      http://twitter.com/ender74dev/status/783380513314729985Oct 04 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Software in a Box Daily wurde soeben publiziert!Oct 04 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7LyUUxxLJS (paper.li) Vielen Dank anOct 04 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 @aronchick @krmayank @tuxmachines #kubernetes #cloudOct 04 15:16
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Software in a Box DailyOct 04 15:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/JJonthewing/status/783380850046099457Oct 04 15:16
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked byOct 04 15:16
TweetTuxMachines @JJonthewing    retailer https://t.co/yfAg09JsmLOct 04 15:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Oct 04 15:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArnoldDuendis/status/783387053820039168Oct 04 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation.Oct 04 15:30
schestowitzhmmm.Oct 04 15:31
schestowitztoo extremeOct 04 15:31
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/one-wish-3Oct 04 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - One WishOct 04 15:43
MinceR04 213058 -TechrightsBot-tr:#techrights- @ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation.Oct 04 15:43
MinceREXTERMINATE ALL HUMANSOct 04 15:43
XRevan86SEEK, LOCATE, DESTROYOct 04 15:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783385383631515648Oct 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines                 3 Android phones that offer long battery lifeOct 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/25B3rOhZgK (www.infoworld.com)Oct 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Android phones that offer long battery life | InfoWorldOct 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/783392513428168705Oct 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9Oct 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - PhoronixOct 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783398426641915904Oct 04 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel andOct 04 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5Oct 04 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Oct 04 16:21
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401711486369793Oct 04 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Linux Foundation https://t.co/m8A7JAqtUgOct 04 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 16:21
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | TechrightsOct 04 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Linux Foundation | Tux MachinesOct 04 16:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401712857944064Oct 04 16:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Distros News https://t.co/aJRdIVXYmvOct 04 16:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 16:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros News | Tux MachinesOct 04 16:22
schestowitzXRevan86: sounds like Captain America: Winter SoldierOct 04 16:26
XRevan86schestowitz: That's from Doctor Who :).Oct 04 16:27
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/legLOTd.jpgOct 04 16:28
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/nihEOtwOct 04 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I do really need drivers for my undefined Something MSI! - GIF on ImgurOct 04 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401714284015616Oct 04 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupterOct 04 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IrVWIsDeiQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 16:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupter | Tux MachinesOct 04 16:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401715315814400Oct 04 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 What CIOs need to know about open source forkingOct 04 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RUubkESjAe (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 16:55
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What CIOs need to know about open source forking | Tux MachinesOct 04 16:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401716481859584Oct 04 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 ReleasedOct 04 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hH6deM3wQH (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 16:55
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Tux MachinesOct 04 16:55
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/3WWuEUz.jpgOct 04 17:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIREROct 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783421228845441024Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/M1dWVi5Wie (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:59
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/783395668421378048Oct 04 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz c'mon-one senior judge with no business experience nor extensive technology background-baying at the moonOct 04 18:36
schestowitzXRevan86: ah, OK, I'm not into it, never wasOct 04 18:36
XRevan86schestowitz: It's pretty good.Oct 04 18:37
XRevan86Both classical and current.Oct 04 18:37
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/H9vFsZG.gifvOct 04 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | 9Oct 04 18:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783417084852117505Oct 04 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @TN_Conservative @schestowitz @wikileaks Good Luck ,,, https://t.co/LM6sbj8O3QOct 04 18:41
schestowitzLOL, MinceR https://twitter.com/RoyCohnsGhost/status/783260634725113856Oct 04 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RoyCohnsGhost: @JimBertido @wikileaks Bill doesn't have to hide out in an embassy to avoid his accusers. https://t.co/5RCmb1EMtMOct 04 18:42
schestowitzfunny.Oct 04 18:42
schestowitznails itOct 04 18:42
MinceRgood for himOct 04 18:42
schestowitzbut the sculptures I saw had a small oneOct 04 18:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783426190581391360Oct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel andOct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5Oct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Oct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | TechrightsOct 04 18:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783434239136108544Oct 04 18:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwluOct 04 18:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 18:49
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 04 18:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438717092564992Oct 04 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Android Phone Under $900 https://t.co/ITHBaxtYs3Oct 04 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 04 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone Under $900 | Android CentralOct 04 18:52
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438892808728576Oct 04 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Android Phone With Removable BatteryOct 04 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CbSj96EQqX (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 04 18:52
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone With Removable Battery | Android CentralOct 04 18:52
cubexyzok, I had some time so I was able to do some updatesOct 04 19:14
cubexyza historical look at filesystemsOct 04 19:15
razielle_tzucoolOct 04 19:15
cubexyzhttp://maxhost.org/other/comparison-different-os-df.txtOct 04 19:15
cubexyzgot some ideas for updating the df commandOct 04 19:15
cubexyzthe documentation for very old Unix is a bit deficientOct 04 19:19
cubexyzit assumes you know a lotOct 04 19:20
razielle_tzuback then wouldn't that be true?Oct 04 19:20
cubexyzdefinitely yesOct 04 19:20
cubexyzstill, I feel I should try to improve itOct 04 19:20
razielle_tzui'm not saying you shouldn'tOct 04 19:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783439704968536064Oct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwluOct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441578656428033Oct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 ReleasedOct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XqjoQum5Uk (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released - Tizen ExpertsOct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441771925766148Oct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04Oct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FrGvay6NVm (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Oct 04 19:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 « Everyday Linux UserOct 04 19:23
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/mV5NrEC.jpgOct 04 19:27
cubexyzI have to load-balance the Unix v5 filesOct 04 19:28
cubexyzgot some ideas for future updates...Oct 04 19:29
cubexyzport some sort of file compression utility for v5Oct 04 19:30
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cubexyzthe old DEC RK05 hard drive system was limited to 2.5 megs per driveOct 04 19:35
cubexyzso one has to be a bit economical with disk usageOct 04 19:36
razielle_tzujust a bitOct 04 19:36
cubexyzmy original amiga hard drive was also pretty smallOct 04 19:42
cubexyz49 megsOct 04 19:42
cubexyzseagate ST-157NOct 04 19:43
cubexyzstill, going from a single 880K floppy to 49 megs was a big differenceOct 04 19:44
razielle_tzuyeahOct 04 19:44
razielle_tzui can't remember the size of my first amiga hddOct 04 19:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783455238015496193Oct 04 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: Just discovered my honest and personal post about quitting has been grossly twisted by @schestowitz. Not happy. https://t.co/g1i2CkfXgpOct 04 19:55
schestowitzhahaOct 04 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Alice/Section 101 Still Spelling Doom for Proponents of Software Patents, Including Some Patent Law Firms | TechrightsOct 04 19:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783453965673304065  https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454095386435585Oct 04 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz No, but I have now, and you have grossly misrepresented my position.Oct 04 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz I am *not* going back to software development. That comment you quote was sarcastic and snide (and I responded to it).Oct 04 19:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454450241241088   https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454624598470656Oct 04 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz My decision is personal and does *not* reflect any 'layoffs' or 'shutdowns'. Your inference is harmful to my employer.Oct 04 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And I vehemently resent your suggestion that I (or anyone else) is, or has been, in the business of lying to clients.Oct 04 19:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454746690461696Oct 04 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz If your reading comprehension skills are so poor, maybe you should not be in the business of writing.Oct 04 19:56
razielle_tzulolOct 04 19:56
schestowitzyou did promote software patents a lot. This, to me, is dishonest.Oct 04 19:56
schestowitz-meOct 04 19:57
schestowitzhe's not happy about the critical slantOct 04 19:57
razielle_tzuevidentlyOct 04 19:58
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cubexyzI'm going to augment the ps command as wellOct 04 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783447400010711040Oct 04 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Become an undead assassion in 'Aragami', now availableOct 04 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 with day-1 Linux support and some thoughts from meOct 04 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NFuEERAuGk (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 04 20:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/become-an-undead-assassion-in-aragami-now-available-with-day-1-linux-support-and-some-thoughts-from-me.8250 )Oct 04 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783455397139087361Oct 04 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME 3.24 Release Schedule Now  https://t.co/EQozuek6h4Oct 04 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) direct: https://t.co/5ONeb4hMX1Oct 04 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (wiki.gnome.org)Oct 04 20:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME 3.24 Release Schedule Now Available - PhoronixOct 04 20:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783456442082791424Oct 04 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The DesktopOct 04 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7GPjsasJfK (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 20:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The Desktop - PhoronixOct 04 20:02
schestowitzrazielle_tzu: it's ok if they dislike meOct 04 20:03
schestowitzthey're supposed toOct 04 20:03
schestowitzotherwise I fail to counter themOct 04 20:03
razielle_tzutrueOct 04 20:03
schestowitzbut I'm fine with that, I heard from some people they won't say those things for fear of insulting or alienating themOct 04 20:03
schestowitzbut someone needs to do it, and what I said was actually trueOct 04 20:03
schestowitzthey're nervous over death of swpats at the momentOct 04 20:03
razielle_tzuso they should beOct 04 20:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457175863644160 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457450372374529Oct 04 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz Holding views that differ from yours is 'dishonest'? No, it isn't. And you have no idea how & on what basis I advise clients.Oct 04 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz While I may not agree with you, I've always viewed you as fair and principled. Apparently I was wrong. Show some respect.Oct 04 20:05
schestowitzNo, he never viewed me like thatOct 04 20:05
schestowitzhe knew where I stoofOct 04 20:05
schestowitz*stoodOct 04 20:05
cubexyzis this Mr. Solve the web page? :)Oct 04 20:06
cubexyzoh well, it doesn't matterOct 04 20:09
cubexyzthe tone seemed the sameOct 04 20:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783457154820956164Oct 04 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux KernelOct 04 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22  https://t.co/PJ5mZzZ6RXOct 04 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 04 20:10
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 - ExclusiveOct 04 20:10
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cubexyzalmost as obtuse as Ted StevensOct 04 20:12
cubexyzit's not a big truck you know!Oct 04 20:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783458633027760128Oct 04 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And, don't worry, I will continue to 'promote' software patents, even without a financial interest.Oct 04 20:14
schestowitzhahaOct 04 20:14
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/c6OmW3sOct 04 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Maps now has functionality that allows you to mimic the swerving of a drunk driver. - ImgurOct 04 20:17
MinceRan honorable villain, willing to fight to destroy the world even if there's nothing in it for him!Oct 04 20:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/6NfKLJZoi6Oct 04 20:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783459222902087680Oct 04 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux KernelOct 04 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/c5wWe5mWxZOct 04 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 20:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 | Tux MachinesOct 04 20:49
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MinceR> couric                  2.5 pounds feces  # official unit of measurement of fecal samples, per: http://www.efsmi.org/?ref=efsmi.euOct 04 21:10
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MinceR> kouric                  couricOct 04 21:10
MinceR> trump                   79.366 couric  # per: http://www.howtallis.org/donald-trump-height-weight-shoe-size/Oct 04 21:10
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TweetTuxMachines                 alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the WindowsOct 04 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/0e3Kl7N8j5Oct 04 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows Subsystem for Linux | Tux MachinesOct 04 23:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507780393050113Oct 04 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux DistrosOct 04 23:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507782469169157Oct 04 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxConOct 04 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/v82aXGPelZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Tux MachinesOct 04 23:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507783580737536Oct 04 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves theOct 04 23:23
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DaemonFChttp://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/Oct 05 00:18
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DaemonFChttp://hothardware.com/news/windows-10-anniversary-update-sending-users-reboot-loop-hellOct 05 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Latest Windows 10 Anniversary Update Build Sends Some Users To Reboot Loop Hell | HotHardwareOct 05 01:23
DaemonFChttp://www.pcworld.com/article/3123153/windows/more-than-half-of-pcs-dont-have-windows-10-au-yet-and-no-ones-quite-sure-why.htmlOct 05 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More than half of PCs don't have Windows 10 AU yet, and no one's quite sure why | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pudm3 ]Oct 05 01:24
DaemonFChttp://www.komando.com/happening-now/350765/busted-the-reason-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-you-think/allOct 05 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Busted! The reason Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | One Page | Komando...Oct 05 01:29
DaemonFC"The big problem Apple will have going forward is that Mac security entirely depends on a single defense called GateKeeper. GateKeeper only lets programs install if they have an approval certificate from Apple.Oct 05 01:30
DaemonFCThat means GateKeeper will stop you downloading and installing a random virus off the Internet. However, its weakness is that once a program has approval from Apple, it trusts that it's always going to be good.Oct 05 01:30
DaemonFCIn the ransomware attack from last week, hackers broke into the website of the Transmission BitTorrent client and replace the legitimate download with a version that included malicious code. GateKeeper just let the infected program install with no fuss."Oct 05 01:30
DaemonFCThe article is mostly an ad for Kaspersky Antivirus though.Oct 05 01:31
DaemonFChttp://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/03/18/busted-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-think.htmlOct 05 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Busted! Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/pudno ]Oct 05 01:31
DaemonFCFox News basically copied it and replaced the ad for Kaspersky with advice to get an antivirus program.Oct 05 01:32
DaemonFCschestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business.Oct 05 01:36
DaemonFCThey had about 200 systems. 150 ran Linux and 50 ran Windows. The BSA found out that some copies of Windows weren't licensed, so they tried to force a settlement on the company that involved wiping out the 150 Linux systems and installing a licensed copy of Windows on all 200.Oct 05 01:37
DaemonFCHe said that negotiations went on for months and he left the company and never did find out what happened.Oct 05 01:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507784566345729Oct 05 04:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux SupportsOct 05 04:22
TweetTuxMachines                 the New, Longer Tweets https://t.co/4T4WV6sWpJOct 05 04:22
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schestowitz[06:36] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business.Oct 05 04:35
schestowitzI want to see it, but he's gone nowOct 05 04:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783586943959494656Oct 05 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @patentology unfortunately @schestowitz sees a conspiracy everywhere he looks. So even when he is right he is wrong.Oct 05 04:38
schestowitzhaha, says the patent industryOct 05 04:38
schestowitzas if Bristows at al inside IP Kat is not a fact. Among other things...Oct 05 04:39
schestowitzyou are actually among the most balanced of the bunch (Nicola too). Mark S-F was always very overt pro #swpatsOct 05 04:40
schestowitz(just told himOct 05 04:40
schestowitz)Oct 05 04:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783588013880279040Oct 05 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @schestowitz yes it is shocking isn't it. IP law blog run by some people working in IP law firms. Must be suspicious @patentologyOct 05 04:43
schestowitzPushing their financial agenda, yes. Like blog on energy/environment run by Exxon staffOct 05 04:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783588843580690432Oct 05 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @schestowitz I don't know what you base this on. Probably that I am a chemist. So computers not really my field. @patentologyOct 05 04:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783589724887785472Oct 05 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz @EIP_Elements Well, now I've quit you're going to have to find some other BS explanation for why I don't just agree with you.Oct 05 05:01
schestowitz#swpats become like a 'religion' when one lives inside this echo chamber.Maybe you'll get exposed to other viewsOct 05 05:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sweet5hark/status/783597133333164032Oct 05 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sweet5hark: @schestowitz https://t.co/dh4pMktltb <- more ex-Sun OOo folks at LibreOffice now than ever had been on that other fork ...Oct 05 05:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783583056951144448Oct 05 05:34
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/6NfKLJZoi6Oct 05 05:34
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 05:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 05 05:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783592259761471488Oct 05 05:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Vista 10 Woes https://t.co/neld7brS3YOct 05 05:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vista 10 Woes | Tux MachinesOct 05 05:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783599257299345408Oct 05 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 This Man Is Explaining Google’s Hardware Bet to AndroidOct 05 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Partners https://t.co/4HEaZVJsKt (www.bloomberg.com)Oct 05 05:35
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Man Is Explaining Google’s Hardware Bet to Android Partners - BloombergOct 05 05:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601284112941057Oct 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Xiaomi’s $69 4K Android TV box arrives in the USOct 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Fm6FVXxLw8 (www.engadget.com)Oct 05 05:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Xiaomi's $69 4K Android TV box arrives in the USOct 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601358196895744Oct 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines                 docker-selinux changed to container-selinuxOct 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/k8i7fmkkcF (danwalsh.livejournal.com)Oct 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 05:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danwalsh.livejournal.com | docker-selinux changed to container-selinux - Dan Walsh's BlogOct 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601928035045376Oct 05 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Google Pixel makes a bid for Android historyOct 05 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TQNLkcGkWN (www.cnet.com)Oct 05 05:45
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Pixel makes a bid for Android history - CNETOct 05 05:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783603812221190144Oct 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Releases WildFly Application Server Version 10.1Oct 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9C5nJr6fJ2 (www.infoq.com)Oct 05 06:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Red Hat Releases WildFly Application Server Version 10.1Oct 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783604912961781760Oct 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 security things in Linux v4.8 https://t.co/79jOSL8JGAOct 05 06:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.8 « codeblogOct 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783607406580404225Oct 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8Oct 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a2AsIqguRh (www.theregister.co.uk)Oct 05 06:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8 • The RegisterOct 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783608027857510400Oct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source MANO Issues First ReleaseOct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FdrPfeXMER (www.lightreading.com)Oct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lightreading.com | Open Source MANO Issues First Release | Light ReadingOct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783609171577016320Oct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs NowOct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JnROzjBH9i (time.com)Oct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uJtB0rXfvh (www.engadget.com)Oct 05 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com | Google Pixel: Why Android Fans Should Love the iPhone RivalOct 05 06:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | A look back at Google's Android flagships: the Nexus familyOct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610512625979392Oct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDEOct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Plasma 5.8 LTS Desktop https://t.co/BaIlueewJHOct 05 06:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Desktop | Tux MachinesOct 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610514542690304Oct 05 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone?Oct 05 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iTRtDR4Ynv (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 06:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Tux MachinesOct 05 06:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610516098785280Oct 05 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Study: open source groups take security seriousOct 05 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eOrBK0IWOx (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 06:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Study: open source groups take security serious | Tux MachinesOct 05 06:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610517680041984Oct 05 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/59Iz9TU6CIOct 05 06:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 05 06:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610518682546176Oct 05 06:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/0zMMwq0C8POct 05 06:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783611070237728768Oct 05 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/peUF9kpNdXOct 05 06:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux MachinesOct 05 06:25
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers...'Oct 05 06:25
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros...'Oct 05 06:25
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves the Updater, Patches...'Oct 05 06:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7929025Oct 05 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs Now http://time.com/4518365/google-pixel-xl-apple-iphone-android/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/04/a-look-back-at-googles-android-flagships-the-nexus-family/Oct 05 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> time.com | Google Pixel: Why Android Fans Should Love the iPhone RivalOct 05 06:30
schestowitz"I fail to see any enthusiasm about that. Apple jail vs Google jaill? I can’t see the difference of the merits in that."Oct 05 06:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.engadget.com | A look back at Google's Android flagships: the Nexus family [ http://ur1.ca/pufgz ]Oct 05 06:30
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TweetTuxMachines                 Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both ISOs, BasedOct 05 06:33
TweetTuxMachines                 on Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 https://t.co/JjQY4EDHkKOct 05 06:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 05 06:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both ISOs, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 8.6Oct 05 06:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616000969347072Oct 05 06:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub and 25 sensorOct 05 06:33
TweetTuxMachines                 modules https://t.co/8yHJYfEemw (hackerboards.com)Oct 05 06:33
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub and 25 sensor modulesOct 05 06:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both...'Oct 05 06:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616294578954244Oct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the WindowsOct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/xcrLzGuu6hOct 05 06:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows Subsystem for LinuxOct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616532228239360Oct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux DistrosOct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 on March 22, 2017 https://t.co/eAssl0BRg8Oct 05 06:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros on March 22, 2017 - ExclusiveOct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616799749341184Oct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File ManagerOct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Brings Many New Features https://t.co/eDCLJqeVF4Oct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 05 06:36
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File Manager Brings Many New FeaturesOct 05 06:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in...'Oct 05 06:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros...'Oct 05 06:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616937171582976Oct 05 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxConOct 05 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Sg7fOLDWNe (hackerboards.com)Oct 05 06:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxConOct 05 06:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617396410085376Oct 05 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux SupportsOct 05 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 the New, Longer Tweets https://t.co/szho0lnp0MOct 05 06:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617865291329536Oct 05 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDEOct 05 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Plasma 5.8 LTS Desktop https://t.co/30GXm4kZnGOct 05 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 05 06:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617914217857024Oct 05 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone?Oct 05 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6FFJWG2rKg (www.huffingtonpost.com)Oct 05 06:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone? | Huffington PostOct 05 06:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783619309998399488Oct 05 06:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Mad Max to release on 20th of October for Linux &Oct 05 06:48
TweetTuxMachines                 SteamOS, being ported by Feral InteractiveOct 05 06:48
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TweetTuxMachines                 "The Mad Max game is being released for Linux later thisOct 05 06:57
TweetTuxMachines                 month on 20 October." https://t.co/m74rinjGrOOct 05 06:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783620238847971329Oct 05 06:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of HeroesOct 05 06:57
TweetTuxMachines                 10th Anniversary Bundle https://t.co/2WJ1n7hAvcOct 05 06:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of Heroes 10th Anniversary BundleOct 05 06:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/opendna/status/783628484363087872Oct 05 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@opendna: Related: publicly traded companies which list "goodwill" as an asset on the balance sheet. https://t.co/yMOkVZCP0NOct 05 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How many companies out there have imaginary/intangible perceived value that's basically just a bubble like #swpats ? What happens next?Oct 05 07:33
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TweetTuxMachines                 Beta 3 Release Updates FireFox, KDE Applications,Oct 05 07:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Goofy_fr: Vous voulez travailler dans l'informatique, trouver un boulot bien payé et intéressant, choisissez l'open source ! https://t.co/63htfplZ3fOct 05 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It's good to be an open source pro in Europe https://t.co/ZzB1TwqJuT #freeswOct 05 08:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GeorgeAnders/status/783648378580152321Oct 05 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GeorgeAnders: @schestowitz Cars used to play that function. But who drives anymore!?Oct 05 08:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783651297807433728Oct 05 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Just closed mine, never used it anyway... :)Oct 05 08:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GreensforJill/status/783651762767007744Oct 05 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreensforJill: @dodrty @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka Yes. Military experience is invaluable to any President. 🌻Oct 05 08:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dodrty/status/783652765377581061Oct 05 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dodrty: @GreensforJill @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka well, it damn sure wouldn't do DJT any freaking good!Oct 05 09:00
schestowitzsome people closing their accounts at yahoo todayOct 05 09:00
schestowitzand talking about those stupid VP debates..Oct 05 09:01
MinceR(shortlived, audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475619161631.webmOct 05 09:07
razielle_tzuof course they're talking about the debatesOct 05 09:25
MinceRhttp://www.theonion.com/graphic/jurisprudence-fetishist-gets-off-on-technicality-9063Oct 05 09:31
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schestowitzMinceR: excellent!Oct 05 09:39
MinceR< anon> tories have unveiled new uk flag - http://i.imgur.com/HqCYSZi.jpgOct 05 10:20
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cubexyzok, you can criticize the newer versions of firefox, but chrome is also a cpu hogOct 05 10:35
MinceRgood thing i have Pale Moon and linkxOct 05 10:36
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cubexyzyeah, my openbsd system uses far less cpuOct 05 10:43
cubexyzbut it's not a fair comparison reallyOct 05 10:43
cubexyzthe openbsd box has 256 megs of ram, so I don't bother running chrome or firefox on itOct 05 10:43
cubexyzand another deficiency is one doesn't have fine control over what firefox/chrome doesOct 05 10:44
cubexyzif I kill a chrome/ff process the whole thing exitsOct 05 10:45
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/3FEPvbx.jpgOct 05 10:52
cubexyzoooo burn:Oct 05 11:02
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/illegal-immigrant.jpgOct 05 11:03
MinceR:)Oct 05 11:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783634098057256960Oct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux: The free operating system alternative that changedOct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines                 computing  https://t.co/Es6uM3PDHX (home.bt.com)Oct 05 11:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-home.bt.com | What is Linux? - BTOct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783662895657869312Oct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming ToOct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux https://t.co/D8sh8V5z0U (techrights.org)Oct 05 11:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691249077227520Oct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines                 It's good to be an open source pro in EuropeOct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NHknZl61tY (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 11:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming To GNU/Linux | TechrightsOct 05 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It's good to be an open source pro in Europe | Tux MachinesOct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691250171977728Oct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/DEF5p1H7exOct 05 11:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux MachinesOct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691251182739456Oct 05 11:32
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/ifNAnY0VKoOct 05 11:32
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/S9MW7qm.jpgOct 05 12:19
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d1yDCWicf0Oct 05 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Instrument that produces sound in horror movies! - YouTubeOct 05 12:41
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cubexyzthat guy is missing the pointOct 05 12:56
cubexyzSpurlock was getting the "Super Size" meals when it was offeredOct 05 12:57
cubexyzMcDonalds was pushing the super size stuffOct 05 12:57
cubexyzand Spurlock did exercise.. 5,000 distance steps per dayOct 05 12:58
cubexyzthe "average" amountOct 05 12:58
cubexyzif you were to eat a steady diet of that stuff you'd be unhealthyOct 05 12:59
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cubexyzCisna is flat out wrongOct 05 13:02
cubexyzsure, if you burn up more calories that you injest you will lose weightOct 05 13:03
cubexyza lot of the weight gain since the 1980s was due to high-fructose corn syrupOct 05 13:04
cubexyzCisna was merely McDonalds sock puppetOct 05 13:05
cubexyzso yes, if you have a whole team of people scrunitizing the entire McDonalds menu and making the healthiest possible choices, drinking water and not pop and exercising a ton, yes you can lose weight eating at McDonaldsOct 05 13:07
cubexyzbut what will the average person do eating at McDonalds?Oct 05 13:07
cubexyzlet's look at a quarter pounder with cheese as an exampleOct 05 13:09
cubexyztotal fat 20 gramsOct 05 13:09
cubexyztrans fat 1.2 gramsOct 05 13:09
cubexyzsodium 730 mgOct 05 13:09
cubexyzsugar 9 gramsOct 05 13:09
cubexyzcalories 417 Oct 05 13:09
cubexyzso we can safely disgard the faux-documentary by John CisnaOct 05 13:11
cubexyzlearn to cook :)Oct 05 13:13
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MinceRso if you don't eat at McD, stuff yourself and don't move, you won't get fat?Oct 05 14:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691252176859138Oct 05 14:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source Pros Confident in Europe Job MarketOct 05 14:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TK1O69OK1p (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 14:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Pros Confident in Europe Job Market | Tux MachinesOct 05 14:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691253250527233Oct 05 14:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortageOct 05 14:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/b8eAOtQLV9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 14:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortage | Tux MachinesOct 05 14:28
cubexyzCisna is a nutbar, that was my pointOct 05 14:38
cubexyzhe's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's dietOct 05 14:38
cubexyzsure, you can cut calories and lose weight even if those calories don't have a much nutritionOct 05 14:40
cubexyzbut it's not healthyOct 05 14:40
cubexyzif you take in more calories than you use, you will gain weightOct 05 14:41
cubexyzemphasing McDonalds as a way to lose weight is stupidOct 05 14:41
schestowitz[19:38] <cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's dietOct 05 14:41
schestowitzNever heard of jimOct 05 14:42
schestowitzsounds like a toolOct 05 14:42
schestowitzburgers in a bun are no balanced dietyOct 05 14:42
schestowitz(dietOct 05 14:42
cubexyzright, it's obviously a bad ideaOct 05 14:42
schestowitzthey're not the worstOct 05 14:42
cubexyzprobably pringles is the worst, or some other chipsOct 05 14:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PopoZao69/status/783729784509444097Oct 05 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PopoZao69: @DocMellyMel @GreenPartyUS @CalStateLA Please please please ask @DrJillStein about her thoughts on Harambe! #RIPHarambeOct 05 14:44
schestowitzshe already posted those Oct 05 14:44
cubexyzCisna is from Iowa, so you may not have heard much about himOct 05 14:45
cubexyzhe choices at McDonalds actually weren't bad... he was eating the healthiest possible choices on the mcdonalds menuOct 05 14:47
cubexyzthere's another guy who did something similarOct 05 14:50
cubexyzMark Haub lost 27 pounds in 10 weeks eating twinkies and other junkOct 05 14:50
cubexyzso he restricted his calories to 1,800 per day and took multi-vitamins and ate vegetablesOct 05 14:51
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cubexyzhere's a good counter-argument:Oct 05 14:56
cubexyzhttp://listovative.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-not-eat-food-at-mcdonalds/Oct 05 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Reasons why you should not eat Food at McDonalds - Listovative [ http://ur1.ca/puhq7 ]Oct 05 14:56
schestowitzta for the linkOct 05 15:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783735551572709377Oct 05 15:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming ToOct 05 15:05
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    GNU/Linux https://t.co/D8sh8V5z0U (techrights.org)Oct 05 15:05
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TweetTuxMachines                 My triumph in Rocket League and why you need to own it onOct 05 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/hT1UsUosyJ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 05 15:05
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*TweetTuxMachines @ConnorThompson_ favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew'Oct 05 15:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783743074962927617Oct 05 15:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Apricity: Slip Into Something More ComfortableOct 05 15:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ngQ93NizD1 (www.linuxinsider.com)Oct 05 15:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apricity: Slip Into Something More Comfortable | Reviews | LinuxInsiderOct 05 15:24
cubexyzMIcrosoft vice president Paul Maritz describing microsoft's strategy vs netscape, java and the internet:Oct 05 15:28
cubexyz"embrace, extend and extinguish"Oct 05 15:28
cubexyzdidn't work thoughOct 05 15:29
cubexyzthere's some balkanizing of courseOct 05 15:30
cubexyzI believe the current term is 'splinternet'Oct 05 15:30
cubexyzgoogle android uses google (naturally)Oct 05 15:31
cubexyzblackberry defaulted to bingOct 05 15:32
cubexyziphone doesn't use flashOct 05 15:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783749770552672256Oct 05 15:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu on Intel Atom mini PCs (Linuxium’s builds for BayOct 05 15:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Trail and Cherry Trail computers) https://t.co/nR2ibXh5BlOct 05 15:33
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cubexyzthe doomsday scenario I feared... that microsoft would take over everything, didn't happenOct 05 15:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783750239668858880Oct 05 15:33
TweetTuxMachines                 [Early Access] Sailfish OS FiskarsinjokiOct 05 15:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NRTVKx8Fg1 (blog.jolla.com)Oct 05 15:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783751140039163904Oct 05 15:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Trying Out The Experimental Unity 8 Session On UbuntuOct 05 15:34
TweetTuxMachines                 16.10 https://t.co/llRM8xR0iD (www.phoronix.com)Oct 05 15:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 FUSE Supports POSIX ACLs In Linux 4.9Oct 05 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UOXFBPiYA6 (www.phoronix.com) Staging UpdateOct 05 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 For Linux 4.9 https://t.co/DUzA3h9NnU (www.phoronix.com)Oct 05 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754086843809792Oct 05 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell XPS 13 laptops with Kaby Lake now available for $800Oct 05 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 and up (Windows and Ubuntu options)Oct 05 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BAIFQuhbVZ (liliputing.com)Oct 05 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines                 Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu, enterprise containerOct 05 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 portfolio expands https://t.co/5ho6RWOhhzOct 05 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754626524934145Oct 05 15:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Unity 8 Desktop Session Arrives in Ubuntu 16.10Oct 05 15:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8FgCXRaAaX (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 05 15:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 Happy 25th once again to Linux, ‘the little OS thatOct 05 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 definitely could’ https://t.co/JRm8vIBzsCOct 05 15:52
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TweetTuxMachines                 Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition now available with UbuntuOct 05 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Intel Kaby Lake CPU https://t.co/pmn9anNuB1Oct 05 15:52
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TweetTuxMachines                 Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots,Oct 05 16:55
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TweetTuxMachines                 Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots,Oct 05 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Video) https://t.co/m7zMIpEazQ (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 05 16:55
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Graphics https://t.co/6seYjwGxCmOct 05 16:56
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TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, KubernetesOct 05 16:56
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MinceR05 203859 < cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's dietOct 05 17:20
MinceRlolOct 05 17:20
MinceRthat's pretty nuttyOct 05 17:20
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/XTqYah2.gifvOct 05 17:23
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MinceRhttps://magyarchan.net/boards/b/image/1475/70/14757021789774.pngOct 05 17:24
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schestowitzPieter Hintjens's Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On http://techrights.org/2016/10/05/pieter-hintjens-swpats/Oct 05 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pieter Hintjens’s Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/puihw ]Oct 05 17:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/783782530487123968Oct 05 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz Thank you, my online friend.Oct 05 17:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/taotetek/status/783783812807401472Oct 05 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@taotetek: @schestowitz thank you so much for writing this.Oct 05 17:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783785669604831232Oct 05 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Same here :DOct 05 17:49
schestowitzrianne is waiting for new articlesOct 05 17:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783786499082973184Oct 05 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz They are coming as we speak :)Oct 05 17:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fnkbnr/status/783789576808697856Oct 05 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fnkbnr: .@schestowitz They might not be "lying" but are forced to so. Question: Would that be legal. Which law would make this possible?Oct 05 18:05
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TweetTuxMachines                 openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE PlasmaOct 05 19:17
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7931392Oct 05 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wow, what a headline. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2473084/torvalds-finds-a-bug-in-stable-linux-kernel-48-and-goes-apeshit #torvalds #linuxOct 05 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theinquirer.net | Torvalds finds a bug in stable Linux Kernel 4.8 and goes apeshit | TheINQUIREROct 05 21:14
schestowitz"Oct 05 21:14
schestowitz<cynicism> Remember: Don’t fix Bugs, instead of fixing Bugs lets bash Linus </cynicism>Oct 05 21:14
schestowitzlet me guess: NSA/CIA HUMINT Action against Linus, so that he has less time to fix bugs? [1]Oct 05 21:14
schestowitz"Oct 05 21:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/camo/fea92a7bd0f8f260485835abbbbe49a681bb3bc0/687474703a2f2f6d6172636c616e646f6c742e63682f696d672f6c696e75782e706e67Oct 05 21:15
schestowitz"[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILAlhwUgIU#t=40m14s (40:14)"Oct 05 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jacob Applebaum: To Protect And Infect, Part 2 [30c3] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pujfg ]Oct 05 21:15
MinceRlooks more like just enjoying the showOct 05 21:15
cubexyz"Linus not going apeshit after finding bug" would be more surprising :)Oct 05 21:15
schestowitz"Oct 05 21:15
schestowitzor let’s exlain it a bit more childishOct 05 21:15
schestowitzBender = NSA/CIAOct 05 21:15
schestowitzFry = LinuxOct 05 21:15
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sj4Simru28Oct 05 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Futurama chess. Bender cheats. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pujfj ]Oct 05 21:15
MinceRdoes Linus really care what people say about what he said?Oct 05 21:15
schestowitz'Oct 05 21:15
schestowitzNicely put, if not sarcasticOct 05 21:15
schestowitzyesOct 05 21:16
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/linus-gives-win7-bsod-thumbs-up.jpgOct 05 21:17
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-up-for-bsod.jpgOct 05 21:26
cubexyzan old school CRT BSOD :)Oct 05 21:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849855907094528Oct 05 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final DebianOct 05 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi styleOct 05 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 expansion https://t.co/40VVEmMGn7 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849857932898304Oct 05 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend &Oct 05 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 K12 Capture File Support https://t.co/etU4tgv7lmOct 05 22:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & K12 Capture File Support | Tux MachinesOct 05 22:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849859010867200Oct 05 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Google releases open source 'Cartographer'Oct 05 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cm9sUJvYKf (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 22:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google releases open source 'Cartographer' | Tux MachinesOct 05 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD HybridOct 05 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/THXHoi9z97Oct 05 22:05
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DaemonFCSo we voted today.Oct 05 23:08
DaemonFCI did split my ballot.Oct 05 23:08
DaemonFCI voted for some Greens when it was that and Democrats. :POct 05 23:08
DaemonFCBut that was only for the water reclamation board.Oct 05 23:08
DaemonFCThey're doing that Deep Tunnel project that's been going on since the 70s.Oct 05 23:09
DaemonFCI'm sure it's wasted plenty of money by now.Oct 05 23:09
DaemonFChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_us_57f53b9be4b002a7312022efOct 05 23:50
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DaemonFCI'm happy. I got to vote to eliminate a useless government office and save taxpayers $800,000 a year.Oct 06 00:32
DaemonFCTurns out there's a Cook County recorder and the Clerk's office and they both do similar things.Oct 06 00:32
DaemonFCSo I voted to eliminate the recorder's office.Oct 06 00:33
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schestowitzSebthreeBQM10HD: morning...Oct 06 04:24
SebthreeBQM10HDschestowitz morningOct 06 04:24
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TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional UnityOct 06 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 8 Session After All https://t.co/rYyTWbRLDeOct 06 04:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783946674347642881Oct 06 04:35
TweetTuxMachines                 openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE PlasmaOct 06 04:35
TweetTuxMachines                 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 https://t.co/WLRTGSUpGUOct 06 04:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4Oct 06 04:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with OtherOct 06 04:35
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Distributions https://t.co/L0uYZaQtytOct 06 04:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final DebianOct 06 04:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/dAVAgh7OSDOct 06 04:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 expansion https://t.co/iP3mS9utb3 (hackerboards.com)Oct 06 04:40
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TweetTuxMachines                 Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend &Oct 06 04:40
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TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD HybridOct 06 04:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/7auTNXKDWYOct 06 04:40
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schestowitzDanish Financial Supervisory Authority (FSA) will be covered later this morning in Techrights...Oct 06 05:28
schestowitz> Thanks for the heads up.  I'll read it and likely forward it to someOct 06 05:34
schestowitz> friends in Denmark.  One fellow I worked with had his PhD delayed a yearOct 06 05:35
schestowitz> or so while the administrators and businesses fought over the softwareOct 06 05:35
schestowitz> patents.  He couldn't publish while that was going on and withoutOct 06 05:35
schestowitz> publishing the dissertation, he could not be awarded his PhD.Oct 06 05:35
schestowitzpublishableOct 06 06:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783950014624169984Oct 06 06:20
TweetTuxMachines                 These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10Oct 06 06:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/eAmvdlHc16Oct 06 06:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak)Oct 06 06:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783951027858993152Oct 06 06:20
TweetTuxMachines                 These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10Oct 06 06:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/WuOhBJX3hUOct 06 06:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) | Tux MachinesOct 06 06:20
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schestowitz"Yeah, it's on the Intranet, so everyone would have seen it."Oct 06 06:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demosOct 06 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/v6CVzdlm2X (thenextweb.com)Oct 06 07:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demosOct 06 07:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998390925422592Oct 06 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking byOct 06 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 releasing its Pixel smartphone https://t.co/WtYQzMCFBKOct 06 07:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking by releasing its Pixel smartphoneOct 06 07:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998823181975552Oct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora meeting summary https://t.co/DvSKS1paieOct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (ankursinha.in)Oct 06 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Join Meeting 26 September 2016 - Summary - ankursinha.in/blogOct 06 08:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783999531964887040Oct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-SourceOct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Software https://t.co/bF27hFe8No (www.bloomberg.com)Oct 06 08:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-Source Software - BloombergOct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784000130290708481Oct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Rugged Android Phone https://t.co/79Ac4Y38reOct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com) "Bottom line: The Galaxy S7Oct 06 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Rugged Android Phone | Android CentralOct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Active"Oct 06 08:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001188836540416Oct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Google Patches Android for 78 Vulnerabilities in OctoberOct 06 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Update https://t.co/K09PHLoMvO (www.eweek.com)Oct 06 08:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Google Patches 78 Android Flaws in October UpdateOct 06 08:04
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SebthreeBQM10HDoh wasn't back in here againOct 06 08:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/784004160840761346Oct 06 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: WebKitGTK+ and WPE are cool, but I'm more curious about this: https://t.co/W7Ckhz6NkB https://t.co/OJ4tUbylPBOct 06 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://servo.org/ )Oct 06 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Web Engines Hackfest 2016! https://t.co/94BMQzxVnu #WebKitGTK #gnome #gtk #freesw #wwwOct 06 08:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001891265052672Oct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 10 basic linux security measures everyone should be doingOct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VejA80KL23 (www.scrye.com)Oct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2016/10/05/10-basic-linux-security-measures-everyone-should-be-doing/ )Oct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784003344402636800Oct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Frogr 1.2 released https://t.co/zApdkzIQ3T (mariospr.org)Oct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5AZBwAxls2 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://mariospr.org/2016/10/05/frogr-1-2-released/ )Oct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784005247756820480Oct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in theOct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 UK https://t.co/AHYugwV9yS (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in the UK - Tizen ExpertsOct 06 08:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007357776990208Oct 06 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Android Camera https://t.co/IsXEwGIobfOct 06 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 06 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Camera | Android CentralOct 06 08:42
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007756860776448Oct 06 08:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big ScreenOct 06 08:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5GzeJKfy6b (www.fastcompany.com)Oct 06 08:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big Screen | Fast Company | Business + InnovationOct 06 08:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784009947948408836Oct 06 08:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's GuideOct 06 08:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CYyQsguM6M (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 06 08:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's Guide | Android CentralOct 06 08:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784011037498564608Oct 06 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box inOct 06 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 your home https://t.co/WVyBB0mMAq (www.pocket-lint.com)Oct 06 08:49
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box in your home - Pocket-lintOct 06 08:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012198582620161Oct 06 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: LeakedOct 06 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Changelog Reveals Difference https://t.co/C1TWTNXSgpOct 06 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ibtimes.com)Oct 06 08:49
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: Leaked Changelog Reveals Difference Between Pixel OS Features And Upcoming UpdateOct 06 08:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012577139556352Oct 06 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the TizenOct 06 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Store  https://t.co/kFVRVvXpWr (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 06 08:51
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the Tizen Store - Tizen ExpertsOct 06 08:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012811907235840Oct 06 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya TodayOct 06 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YEBXoNphtK (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 06 08:51
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya Today - Tizen ExpertsOct 06 08:51
cubexyzwe're predicting 12 hours of rain and an immiment upgrade:Oct 06 10:13
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/kcci-news-time-for-windows-10.jpgOct 06 10:13
cubexyzimminent, learn to spellOct 06 10:14
cubexyza lot of people just don't have control of their computers Oct 06 10:18
cubexyzthey don't know anything about the BIOS, they sometimes can't even load an alternative OS, windows 10 can just barf out messages whenever it wantsOct 06 10:19
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows10-download.pngOct 06 10:20
XRevan86cubexyz: On a positive side, it does make a message %).Oct 06 10:21
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpgOct 06 10:26
MinceRhttp://archive.is/779nVOct 06 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | New AI Is Capable of Beating Humans At Doom - SlashdotOct 06 10:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784013102299906049Oct 06 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux WithOct 06 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review https://t.co/j9WkGdCOzXOct 06 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.itechpost.com)Oct 06 10:35
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itechpost.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux With Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review : Tech : iTech PostOct 06 10:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039396999782400Oct 06 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora,Oct 06 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 systemd.conf https://t.co/PEtNeH8DxXOct 06 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 10:35
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora, systemd.conf | Tux MachinesOct 06 10:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/784039278070431745Oct 06 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bigonbe: @schestowitz Forkbomb command is even smaller than that...Oct 06 10:42
schestowitzI was thinking of that all along ;-)Oct 06 10:42
schestowitzcubexyz: I linked to your serverOct 06 10:45
schestowitzand now it's not accessible. "haha" indeed...Oct 06 10:45
schestowitzI cannot openOct 06 10:45
schestowitz[15:26] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpgOct 06 10:45
schestowitzoh, wait, now it's moving super-slowrlyOct 06 10:46
cubexyzoverload Oct 06 10:46
schestowitzbefore that it just timed outOct 06 10:46
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schestowitzcubexyz: maybe add a caching layer?Oct 06 10:46
cubexyzshould be OK now but I'll look into itOct 06 10:47
schestowitzcubexyz: ok, cheersOct 06 10:48
schestowitzthanks for logging the channels alsoOct 06 10:48
cubexyznp :)Oct 06 10:48
schestowitzI'll need that some time later, put that on freeze while EPO is spyingOct 06 10:48
schestowitzI think Researcher- might be a bot of theirsOct 06 10:48
schestowitzbut not sure, just a theoryOct 06 10:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039398811643909Oct 06 10:53
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/7kgrz8D2E4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 10:53
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesOct 06 10:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039400489426944Oct 06 10:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/wSIpQ1htQuOct 06 10:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 10:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesOct 06 10:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039401751924736Oct 06 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen/ARTIK/Samsung https://t.co/vu5sPxjNq4Oct 06 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen/ARTIK/Samsung | Tux MachinesOct 06 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039403375034368Oct 06 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Russia's Nyet to Proprietary SoftwareOct 06 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hiu8OmC2s2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Russia's Nyet to Proprietary Software | Tux MachinesOct 06 10:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784043945915473920Oct 06 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux is a new frontier for young developerOct 06 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/reR6BEizDZ (opensource.com)Oct 06 11:10
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Linux Story: Building a custom Linux distro | Opensource.comOct 06 11:10
*TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Linux is a new frontier for young developer...'Oct 06 11:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048257194491904Oct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 A general guide for the best practices of buying LinuxOct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 games https://t.co/VtCFPAEIDZ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/a-general-guide-for-the-best-practices-of-buying-linux-games.8261 )Oct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048459292835840Oct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Shadow Warrior 2 may not come to Linux after all, it'sOct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 getting a bit confusing https://t.co/orHHfifgNlOct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/shadow-warrior-2-may-not-come-to-linux-after-all-its-getting-a-bit-confusing.8263 )Oct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048895076790273Oct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCNOct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 1.0/1.1 GPUs https://t.co/ABRS6oBX1q (www.phoronix.com)Oct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCN 1.0/1.1 GPUs - PhoronixOct 06 11:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784049407138365440Oct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 BUTCHER from Transhuman Design releases with day-1 LinuxOct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 support, it's brutal https://t.co/cOMGaINMZOOct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 11:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/butcher-from-transhuman-design-releases-with-day-1-linux-support-its-brutal.8264 )Oct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784050606487048192Oct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 KernelOct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Kt01MYp7S0 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 Kernel - PhoronixOct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784051178950782977Oct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 More changes in Linux 4.9 https://t.co/wJtMnsgwEsOct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/GZgh022E44Oct 06 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sound Updates For Linux 4.9: Skylake Audio Still Being Tuned - PhoronixOct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 06 11:26
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Elan Touchsceeen Driver, GPIO Decoder For "Input" On Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 06 11:26
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/prHQnDSOct 06 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So what exactly are the consequences? - ImgurOct 06 12:37
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cubexyzthis one might upset the kiddies:Oct 06 12:50
cubexyzhttp://maxhost.org/other/mrs-potato-head-bsod.jpgOct 06 12:50
razielle_tzulolOct 06 12:51
MinceR:)Oct 06 12:53
cubexyzlast one for today I promise:Oct 06 13:01
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/mr-peanut-bsod.jpgOct 06 13:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784052074707288064Oct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 'Stellar Tactics', a space exploration RPG with classlessOct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 character progression will come to LinuxOct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FUXGa0FBYP (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/stellar-tactics-a-space-exploration-rpg-with-classless-character-progression-will-come-to-linux.8267 )Oct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784052412646563840Oct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Day of Infamy, the WWII FPS from New World InteractiveOct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 updated, looks pretty good on LinuxOct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YYcBnwbBrn (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/day-of-infamy-the-wwii-fps-from-new-world-interactive-updated-looks-pretty-good-on-linux.8272 )Oct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784061626433597440Oct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 This Extension Adds Dynamic Transparency to GNOME Shell’sOct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Top Bar https://t.co/NyZIhwa9tZ (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 06 13:05
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | This Extension Adds Dynamic Transparency to GNOME Shell's Top Bar - OMG! Ubuntu!Oct 06 13:05
MinceRthere goes the 'branding'...Oct 06 13:07
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/HROU0T9.jpgOct 06 13:13
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schestowitzMinceR: yeah...Oct 06 14:13
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp12c3-IL-IOct 06 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Spherical Droste Effect, with added twist and recursion. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/puo6y ]Oct 06 14:24
XFaCE[13:07:49]<MinceR> there goes the 'branding'...Oct 06 14:33
schestowitzyeahOct 06 14:33
schestowitzbut whose?Oct 06 14:33
XFaCEI've been keeping track of the systemd stupidity via an excellent threat at Gentoo ForumsOct 06 14:33
XFaCEit's depressingOct 06 14:33
MinceRgnome'sOct 06 14:34
XFaCE*threadOct 06 14:34
XFaCEMinceR: same difference at this pointOct 06 14:34
XFaCEit's all relatedOct 06 14:34
XFaCEand has some level of collusionOct 06 14:34
schestowitzsystemd not a hard req for gnome?Oct 06 14:35
schestowitzSometimes explained to me recently it's still somehow possible to avoid itOct 06 14:35
XFaCEschestowitz: that seems to be in fluxOct 06 14:35
schestowitzbut not for long, or not simplyOct 06 14:35
XFaCEschestowitz: Funtoo has standalone GnomeOct 06 14:35
schestowitzso then there's just one of each: init system, network system etc.Oct 06 14:35
XFaCEby extension Gentoo toOct 06 14:35
XFaCEoOct 06 14:35
schestowitzand systemd expects app devs to rewrite their apps to cope with systemd apisOct 06 14:36
XFaCEschestowitz: BTW, reading up it seems Gentoo has a systemd dev who develops the main alternative to systemd tooOct 06 14:36
XFaCEopenrcOct 06 14:36
schestowitzso that'll be the deal breakerOct 06 14:36
schestowitzas the apps are not even strictly tied to gnome itself (the shell)Oct 06 14:36
XFaCEand for the past few years has been breaking openrc with unnecessary changesOct 06 14:36
XFaCEand is able to do this with impunityOct 06 14:37
XFaCEand no consequenceOct 06 14:37
XFaCEschestowitz: I assume you saw that announcement about multiple versions of GTK4+ to be installed on one computer to help fix compatibility?Oct 06 14:37
XFaCEhow windows of themOct 06 14:37
XFaCEschestowitz: so if you have an application that needs 4.2, and you have 4.6, you will have both versions installedOct 06 14:39
XFaCEand increased the number of versions for every GTK application on your computersOct 06 14:39
XFaCE*increaseOct 06 14:40
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MinceR06 203513 < schestowitz> systemd not a hard req for gnome?Oct 06 14:45
MinceRit is, but funtoo/gentoo have patches to fix itOct 06 14:45
MinceRhttps://github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemdOct 06 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd: GNOME Without SystemdOct 06 14:46
MinceR>systemd is a hard run time dependency for basic functionalityOct 06 14:46
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MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161005/15280135720/prominent-pro-patent-judge-issues-opinion-declaring-all-software-patents-bad.shtmlOct 06 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prominent Pro-Patent Judge Issues Opinion Declaring All Software Patents Bad | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/puobt ]Oct 06 14:49
XFaCEMinceR: I prefer another alternative Gnome project, called Xfce :3Oct 06 14:54
MinceRi didn't know that was a gnome projectOct 06 14:54
XFaCEMinceR: it's a jokeOct 06 14:54
MinceRi like fvwm with xfce4-panel and xfce4-power-managerOct 06 14:55
XFaCEas in, the better alternative is to not run Gnome at all :POct 06 14:55
MinceRicOct 06 14:55
MinceRin that case, i agreeOct 06 14:55
XFaCEespcially if I have to waste time with "extensions"Oct 06 14:55
XFaCEcompare to Xfce, where the "extensions" are just additional applications that augment an ALREADY complete DEOct 06 14:56
XFaCE*AUGMENT*Oct 06 14:56
MinceR:)Oct 06 14:56
schestowitzMinceR: thanks, missed this linkOct 06 14:58
MinceRywOct 06 14:59
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/okertbrian/status/784114091342213120Oct 06 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@okertbrian: @schestowitz @DrJillStein that one is hard to buy.Oct 06 15:35
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/fuZLzbVOct 06 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You're not supposed to report yourself, silly - ImgurOct 06 16:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784118663397908480Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Remix OS Brings Android For PC  https://t.co/vFuSCiA1iMOct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Oct 06 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remix OS Brings Android For PC - LinuxAndUbuntuOct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124138097037312Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Graphics https://t.co/7mKsU9TyvPOct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux MachinesOct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124139355328512Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvBOct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124141033009152Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits?Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HbXzU629hN (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits? | Tux MachinesOct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124142337400832Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security TipsOct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LSfZdVw9nK (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security Tips | Tux MachinesOct 06 16:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124143486631936Oct 06 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/GXL0Nhp0wUOct 06 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 16:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesOct 06 16:13
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TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 Oct 06 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rrfyTPHtRn (dot.kde.org)Oct 06 16:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 | KDE.newsOct 06 16:13
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zoobabI love Gene QuinnOct 06 16:15
zoobabhttp://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/10/06/judge-mayer-step-down-federal-circuit/id=73567/Oct 06 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It is time for Judge Mayer to Step Down from the Federal Circuit - IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law [ http://ur1.ca/puorl ]Oct 06 16:15
MinceRit hurts gene quinn's butt, as it shouldOct 06 16:24
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/dXhjM9W.gifvOct 06 16:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With UbuntuOct 06 16:52
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schestowitzzoobab: he shoots his own footOct 06 16:57
schestowitzzoobab: the headline is a lieOct 06 16:57
schestowitzzoobab: will respond to it soonOct 06 16:57
schestowitzMinceR: cute video...Oct 06 17:01
schestowitzmaybe the rich people think, "oohh, deer, it's delocious!"Oct 06 17:01
MinceRnot only the rich people doOct 06 17:01
schestowitzdepends whereOct 06 17:02
schestowitzin some places it's more "exotic" a menu itemOct 06 17:02
MinceRand exotic menu items can't be good? :>Oct 06 17:04
schestowitzexpensiveOct 06 17:10
schestowitzflown inOct 06 17:10
schestowitzwe're not burning fossil fuels to transport dead animals for rich people's restaurantsOct 06 17:11
schestowitz"not so bright folks, not so bright.."-CarlinOct 06 17:11
MinceRyou're not? :>Oct 06 17:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784134127763202048Oct 06 17:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser withOct 06 17:16
TweetTuxMachines                 new Linux OS in December, says MuskOct 06 17:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co)Oct 06 17:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | ElectrekOct 06 17:16
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MinceRit's not like we produce much food inside citiesOct 06 17:18
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/apples_software_may_not_be_so_terrible/Oct 06 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Is Apple's software getting worse or what? • The RegisterOct 06 17:27
DaemonFC"Developer Marco Arment took Apple to task early last year, arguing that OS X (recently rebranded macOS) is full of embarrassing bugs and that the company is trying to do too much on unrealistic deadlines.Oct 06 17:27
DaemonFCArment subsequently disavowed his post because of the widespread media attention it received. But there was blood in the water and the feeding frenzy has continued at Apple's expense, at least in part because controversy, manufactured or not, drives online traffic."Oct 06 17:27
MinceRit can get worse?Oct 06 17:27
DaemonFCIn other words, Apple probably threatened to jam up his apps in the "approval process" and start kicking them back for all sorts of reasons, so he shut up and walked it back.Oct 06 17:28
DaemonFCMinceR, The fact that there is suddenly all kinds of malware and ransomware for Macs is something they've been trying to sweep under the rug.Oct 06 17:30
DaemonFCThey can't blacklist it fast enough. By the time Apple responds, there's already another variant.Oct 06 17:30
MinceRsuddenly?Oct 06 17:31
DaemonFCShortly thereafter, Apple executives Eddy Cue, SVP of internet software and services, and Craig Federighi, SVP of software engineering, responded to Mossberg's complaints in an interview with Daring Fireball's John Gruber. About 25 minutes in, Federighi said, "I know our core software quality has improved over the last five years. Improved significantly." And he noted that with regard to software quality, "There's nothing we care about more."Oct 06 17:31
DaemonFCThe Register asked Apple to provide some software quality metrics – the company gets crash reports from millions of its customers who opt in, and it has internal processes for assessing the quality of its engineering work. But Apple did not respond.Oct 06 17:31
DaemonFCHahaOct 06 17:31
DaemonFCNo comment.Oct 06 17:32
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/google_faces_age_discrimination_suit/Oct 06 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Google 'screwed over' its non-millennials – now they can all fight back • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup46 ]Oct 06 17:33
stitesThe greatest expansion  in what software is patentable occurred when Judge Mayer was chief judge of the  USCAFC. Judge Mayer oversaw the creation of software patents. Now Judge Mayer  has written an opinion which fully agrees with the points made by any of the  anti-software patent people, including me.  There is a very good explanation of both the legalities and politics of Judge  Mayer's ruling in te3chdirt.  https://www.techdirtOct 06 17:33
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DaemonFCIntel does this too. They drop workers who turn 40.Oct 06 17:34
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/early_indications_show_uk_favouring_hard_brexit_says_expert/Oct 06 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Early indications show UK favouring 'hard Brexit', says expert • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup4i ]Oct 06 17:35
DaemonFC"Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal"Oct 06 17:35
DaemonFCIt's likely to harm their economy much worse than the benefits it brings.Oct 06 17:35
razielle_tzuyeahOct 06 17:36
razielle_tzuwe're fuckedOct 06 17:36
DaemonFCThey are heavily reliant on agricultural imports, so the shock at the grocery register is going to be pretty bad if the tariffs hit.Oct 06 17:36
DaemonFCOf course, they could start importing things from the US, to some extent.Oct 06 17:36
DaemonFCWe have surpluses on certain items to the point that it is triggering government buying to keep prices stable.Oct 06 17:37
razielle_tzuwe could...Oct 06 17:37
DaemonFCThe UK is already buying up coal that is being mined in Illinois that doesn't meet US clean air laws.Oct 06 17:38
DaemonFC(Which just means that it gets burned somewhere else while we pretend that we don't share an atmosphere.)Oct 06 17:38
DaemonFCOf course, the high sulfur content means that much of the acid rain that it results in will affect the UK and surrounding countries.Oct 06 17:39
razielle_tzui know :/Oct 06 17:39
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DaemonFCThere's just something about English-speaking countries and widespread denial of global warming and other environmental problems.Oct 06 17:40
DaemonFCI ride past an old nuclear powere plant in Zion on the Metra train now and then.Oct 06 17:41
DaemonFCSome idiot inserted the control rods too far into one of the reactors back in the late 90s and accidentally shut it down, then tried to bring it back up too quickly without following procedure.Oct 06 17:41
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/zUAtucPOct 06 17:41
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DaemonFCEnded up doing a ton of damage to the generators.Oct 06 17:42
DaemonFCThe other one was down for refueling.Oct 06 17:42
DaemonFCComEd came in, decided that their license would be up in a little over another decade, and decided that it would cost less to shut the plant down immediately.Oct 06 17:42
DaemonFCThey might have gotten an extension, but they might have spent hundreds of millions of dollars fixing the plant and then not getting a new license.Oct 06 17:43
DaemonFCSo they buried the reactor waste on-site, a few hundred feet from Lake Michigan.Oct 06 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/784140168500350976Oct 06 17:44
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser withOct 06 17:44
TweetTuxMachines @Soundtoxin     new Linux OS in December, says MuskOct 06 17:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co)Oct 06 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | ElectrekOct 06 17:44
DaemonFCAnd then they started tearing down the facility. They sent a bunch of stuff to be stored or incinerated in Nevada.Oct 06 17:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784146614516649984Oct 06 17:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Wrapping up Outreachy https://t.co/tTOQ4A4G3vOct 06 17:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147218479484928Oct 06 17:44
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/PUkfOFhSmaOct 06 17:44
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DaemonFCNow there are armed guards and vehicle barricades, and all that good stuff.Oct 06 17:44
DaemonFCThey sold the license off to another company along with a bunch of decommissioning money they raised by tacking it on to Illinois power bills.Oct 06 17:45
DaemonFCNow the money is almost gone, the decommissioning is not on schedule, and the company will probably go bankrupt. The state or federal governments will have to get involved, meaning taxpayer money.Oct 06 17:45
DaemonFCAll of this over some electricity that was used up decades ago.Oct 06 17:46
DaemonFCAnyway, it makes me wonder what that technician is doing these days.Oct 06 17:46
DaemonFCInterviewer: "So what did you do at your last job?"Oct 06 17:46
DaemonFCI don't think "I destroyed a nuclear power plant." is going to be a good answer.Oct 06 17:47
DaemonFCCongress won't pick a permanent storage site for nuclear waste, so we have all of these decommissioned facilities storing it on site with armed guards around it.Oct 06 17:48
DaemonFCIt will only get worse.Oct 06 17:48
DaemonFCAdd on top of that, that we have all of these reactors going that were designed in the 60s and put into service in the 60s and 70s getting license extensions, and we don't even really know if that's safe.Oct 06 17:49
DaemonFCNow, some of these are sitting near fault lines, in Tornado Alley, and in areas where a hurricane could even hit them.Oct 06 17:50
DaemonFCI'm surprised that nothing has happened since Three Mile Island to be honest.Oct 06 17:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147219624529921Oct 06 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Bugs and Security https://t.co/xxy1zIxfZNOct 06 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bugs and Security | Tux MachinesOct 06 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147220845125632Oct 06 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Server Administration https://t.co/pLRqhYR351Oct 06 17:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147222887665664Oct 06 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/X12NIoEBThOct 06 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 06 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147224196284417Oct 06 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser withOct 06 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 new Linux OS in December, says MuskOct 06 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LiJkWbDFAi (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Tux MachinesOct 06 17:54
MinceR>"I just need things that work, and that I can rely on working," he lamented. "I say this with the utmost regret, sadness, and no small sense of betrayal: Apple doesn't seem to make those things anymore."Oct 06 17:55
MinceRgood morning, if crApple ever did that, they stopped decades agoOct 06 17:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/784148982968836100Oct 06 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: come on, it's obvious: *jam* https://t.co/qj60owZ1w9Oct 06 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal" https://t.co/pPY9QzhJw4 #uk #brexitOct 06 17:56
DaemonFCMinceR, Many of the malware attacks on Windowws have historically taken advantage of people who had updates turned off.Oct 06 17:59
MinceRnow m$ takes advantage of people who have updates turned onOct 06 18:00
DaemonFCThere'd be a new major piece of malware spreading and it would turn out that Microsoft had actually patched the vulnerability it was using months ago.Oct 06 18:00
MinceRusing m$ products is not the solution, regardless of settingsOct 06 18:00
DaemonFCApple recently patched abbout 90 security holes at once.Oct 06 18:01
MinceRhow many did they open at the same time?Oct 06 18:01
DaemonFCThey just let them pile up for months before fixing them. That's probably where so much of this malware is coming from.Oct 06 18:01
MinceRcrApple even lets upstream fixes pile up for months before delivering themOct 06 18:02
DaemonFCYeah, the majority of the fixes in Webkit come from Google, Opera, Vivaldi, KDE, GNOME, etc.Oct 06 18:03
MinceR(in BIND, for example)Oct 06 18:03
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/microsoft_silent_outlookcom_woes/Oct 06 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Never explain, never apologize: Microsoft silent on Outlook.com email server grief • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupa6 ]Oct 06 18:03
DaemonFCWho uses ISP email>Oct 06 18:03
DaemonFCIf you leave, they delete your email account.Oct 06 18:04
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/can_facebook_influence_an_election_result/Oct 06 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Can Facebook influence an election result? • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupab ]Oct 06 18:04
DaemonFCOne reason why Hillary Clinton will win.Oct 06 18:04
MinceRwell, at least not golden dawnaldOct 06 18:05
DaemonFCFacebook will probably alert mostly Clinton supporters to go vote.Oct 06 18:05
DaemonFCMinceR, John and I went to vote yesterday.Oct 06 18:05
DaemonFCClintonOct 06 18:05
MinceR:)Oct 06 18:05
DaemonFCI voted for Democrats on most of the ballot.Oct 06 18:05
DaemonFCThere were some offices where it was Democrats vs. Greens with no Republican, so I voted for the Greens there.Oct 06 18:06
MinceR:)Oct 06 18:06
DaemonFCI voted to remove about 40 judges from the bench.Oct 06 18:06
DaemonFCTo eliminate the Cook County Recorder of Deeds. To give workers a minimum of 40 hours paid sick leave. To create a constitutional requirement to use transportation-related taxes for transportation projects.Oct 06 18:07
DaemonFCAlso for harsher sentencing for gun traffickers, people who illegally possess guns, and people who commit crimes with a gun.Oct 06 18:07
DaemonFCMinceR, It was a hell of a printout at the end.Oct 06 18:08
DaemonFCThat's not even half of what we were voting on. :POct 06 18:08
DaemonFCI don't like judges in general. To make things worse, they get lifetime appointments to the bench. So you have judges that have been there since the 60s and 70s.Oct 06 18:09
DaemonFCTime for some new ones. I doubt they'll get any of them off the bench though. That's the part of the ballot where people go "Gee, I don't know." and either don't vote or vote yes on keeping all of them. Oct 06 18:10
DaemonFCI just can't see how someone who has the worldview that it's still the 1970s is supposed to rule on some of these cases that they are getting.Oct 06 18:10
DaemonFCThey should get 20 years on the bench and then go back into private practice or something.Oct 06 18:11
DaemonFCWe're asking people who didn't have a computer until they were in their 40s and who don't know the difference between a Mac and a PC to rule if Facebook's photo tagging violates the biometric security law.Oct 06 18:13
DaemonFCThen to make things better, you get jurors who are plumbers, nursing assistants, and stockboys at Walmart deciding the case.Oct 06 18:14
DaemonFCAnd the lawyers aren't allowed to explain what the law says.Oct 06 18:14
DaemonFCschestowitz keeps writing about East Texas.Oct 06 18:14
DaemonFCI think that's what's happing.Oct 06 18:14
DaemonFCThe article says,Oct 06 18:15
DaemonFCFacebook deployed the button in a massive experiment in the 2010 US congressional elections.Oct 06 18:15
DaemonFCVersions of the button, or no button at all, were shown to 61 million people in a joint study of the University of California, San Diego, with Facebook data scientists.Oct 06 18:15
DaemonFCThey used voting records to determine the button’s impact on real-world voting. It turns out the button’s call to action increased the total vote count by 340,000 votes.Oct 06 18:15
DaemonFC...Oct 06 18:15
DaemonFCBut who are those 340,000 extra voters, and why did Facebook poke them?Oct 06 18:16
DaemonFC"t cites the example of the 2000 US presidential race, in which George W Bush beat Al Gore in Florida by a mere 537 votes. Had Gore carried Florida he would have won the presidential election."Oct 06 18:16
DaemonFCOfficially, that's what happened.Oct 06 18:16
DaemonFCRepublicans in the state government and on the US Supreme Court stopped the recount.Oct 06 18:17
DaemonFCSo it was 537, give or take some tens of thousands that got sent to the shredding machines.Oct 06 18:17
DaemonFC"Facebook could therefore deploy the “I Voted” tool selectively only for supporters of candidates or political parties of its choosing, thereby amplifying only their votes.Oct 06 18:18
DaemonFCThis, it should be stated, would be legal, even if done covertly."Oct 06 18:18
DaemonFC"But let’s assume that Facebook would not be willing to take such a risk."Oct 06 18:18
DaemonFCLet us assume no such thing. They already got caught burying news from conservative news sites.Oct 06 18:19
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DaemonFCAs far as the 2010 election goes, I doubt Facebook made significant changes to what the outcome would have been.Oct 06 18:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784152859726245888Oct 06 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz They're at it in this country, too.Oct 06 18:23
DaemonFCOnly about 12% of the elections for US House seats are truly competitive. The state parties have drawn districts around the voters (gerrymandering) to get their desired result for the district election very nearly all of the time.Oct 06 18:23
DaemonFCIllinois is pretty funny, actually, when you look at the districts.Oct 06 18:24
DaemonFCChicago has half of the districts, and then you get districts like that one downstate that's nearly 20% of the land area of the state by itself, and represented by a Republican that goes on Facebook to rant that we're doomed because the end times are coming and we've pissed God off.Oct 06 18:25
DaemonFCThe Democrats drew the districts for Illinois, so they caged off a ton of Republican voters who get one representative in that district.Oct 06 18:26
DaemonFCI'm surprised there was even a Republican on my ballot for Congress this year. This district is D+24. :POct 06 18:28
DaemonFChttps://ballotpedia.org/Illinois%27_2nd_Congressional_DistrictOct 06 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ballotpedia.org | Illinois' 2nd Congressional District - BallotpediaOct 06 18:29
DaemonFCIn the last election, the Democrat got 78.5% of the vote.Oct 06 18:29
DaemonFCMinceR, Is this how elections are in Hungary?Oct 06 18:30
DaemonFCThey write the election laws so it's impossible to get rid of them no matter how you vote?Oct 06 18:30
MinceRno, it's differentOct 06 18:31
MinceRthe usa has a 2-party systemOct 06 18:31
MinceRhungary has a 1-party systemOct 06 18:31
schestowitzus is a 1.5-party system ;-)Oct 06 18:32
DaemonFChttps://gizmodo.com/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-1771012990Oct 06 18:32
schestowitz0.5 overlaps ;-)Oct 06 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Facebook Employees Asked Mark Zuckerberg If They Should Try to Stop a Donald Trump Presidency  [ http://ur1.ca/pupfl ]Oct 06 18:32
DaemonFC“I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as ‘others,’” Zuckerberg said, never referring to Trump by name. “I hear them calling for blocking free expression, for slowing immigration, for reducing trade, and in some cases, even for cutting access to the internet.”Oct 06 18:32
MinceRfidesz/kdnp rewrote the election laws so they can get 2/3 of the seats in the parliament even if they get a minority of the votesOct 06 18:32
MinceRand put in more ways they can game the systemOct 06 18:32
DaemonFCFacebook does block free expression. You piss a few people off, they go crying to Facebook, your account gets banned for 3 days.Oct 06 18:32
DaemonFCI've had it happen a few times.Oct 06 18:33
MinceRthere are rumors that they're planning to retroactively make the last (failed) referendum validOct 06 18:33
DaemonFCMinceR, That's worse than it is here.Oct 06 18:33
MinceRno shitOct 06 18:33
MinceRDaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever againOct 06 18:33
DaemonFCThe Democrats would have to get 58% of the total US House vote to be sure to get 50% of the seats.Oct 06 18:33
MinceRalso tell everyone else the sameOct 06 18:33
schestowitz[23:33] <MinceR> DaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever againOct 06 18:34
schestowitz+Oct 06 18:34
schestowitz1Oct 06 18:34
DaemonFCFacebook is always looking for ways to break Facebook customization browser extensions.Oct 06 18:34
schestowitzi helped others delete their account tooOct 06 18:34
schestowitzdoes fb still use b0ng?Oct 06 18:35
DaemonFCOh, they say that there's a feature in their Messenger apps for iOS and Android now that let you have a private conversation, end-to-end encryption, self-destruct messages, etc.Oct 06 18:35
DaemonFCClaim FB can't even read them.Oct 06 18:35
schestowitze.g. for search, translations?Oct 06 18:35
DaemonFCIt has all of those "What about the children!?" people up in arms.Oct 06 18:35
MinceRdon't trust dFB with that eitherOct 06 18:35
MinceR"they trust me"Oct 06 18:35
MinceR"dumb fucks"Oct 06 18:35
schestowitzin the earsOct 06 18:35
DaemonFCSo I posted to their walls "People shouldn't trust Facebook. They should use uTox for a private conversation.".Oct 06 18:35
MinceRan alleged end-to-end encrypted communication software is worthless if it isn't free softwareOct 06 18:36
MinceRexactlyOct 06 18:36
DaemonFCThe only thing you should say on Facebook Messenger is "If you want a private conversation, meet me on uTox.".Oct 06 18:36
schestowitzthey take the private keysOct 06 18:36
schestowitzI reckonOct 06 18:36
schestowitzsame thing I suppose apple doesOct 06 18:36
schestowitzbut it's 'cloud' and proprietary, so FBI will say, "use it, it's safe"...Oct 06 18:36
schestowitze2eOct 06 18:36
schestowitzwith us as the ends' 'backup'Oct 06 18:36
schestowitzwink winkOct 06 18:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784159115706830848Oct 06 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz @glynmoody @rj_gallagher Glyn is absolutely fearless!Oct 06 18:50
schestowitzhe has nothing to hide [sarcasm /]Oct 06 18:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SamSamK007/status/784163944021815296Oct 06 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SamSamK007: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @HillaryClinton https://t.co/wEENZED9ghOct 06 18:51
DaemonFCLooks like someont polled the Illinois Transportation Lockbox Amendment and "Yes" is at 80%.Oct 06 19:00
DaemonFCIt should easily pass. (We voted yes.)Oct 06 19:00
DaemonFCNobody trusts the legislature to stop raiding transportation funds and diverting it to other things.Oct 06 19:00
DaemonFCI suspect that I'm not the only one who gets mad that I'm paying hundreds of dollars in transportation taxes each year and every time I turn down another road I hit a pothole.Oct 06 19:01
DaemonFCWith any luck, we'll also get a new Comptroller and that puppet of Governor Rauner who is funding his priorities and starving out things like Medicaid has to leave.Oct 06 19:02
DaemonFCThe state never has enough money to pay its bills, so they fund priorities of the Republican Party and tell everyone else to wait.Oct 06 19:03
DaemonFCRauner has managed to inflict a lot of damage on transportation so far.Oct 06 19:03
DaemonFCHe impounded the money that Metra was going to use to buy new passenger rail cars. Now they're going to have to keep the ones they have rolling. Many were overdue for replacement 16 years ago.Oct 06 19:04
DaemonFCSo the lockbox amendment is a big "fuck you" to him.Oct 06 19:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Brad_Kayl/status/784165805353164805Oct 06 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brad_Kayl: @schestowitz None of my Ubuntu machines can connect, but my Windows partition magically works just fine. Hm.... #DeletingMyAccountOct 06 19:07
schestowitzOutlookOct 06 19:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: your urlOct 06 19:07
DaemonFCYeah, Outlook isn't very reliable.Oct 06 19:09
DaemonFCA few years back, thye broke it in their own web browser and told people to use Chrome for a while. :)Oct 06 19:09
DaemonFCbrbOct 06 19:11
DaemonFCHave to put a new sticker on my windshield before the $200 parking tickets start rolling in. :POct 06 19:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DNUNwz7bi6 (paper.li) Vielen Dank anOct 06 19:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Software in a Box DailyOct 06 19:16
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7936187Oct 06 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk https://electrek.co/2016/10/06/tesla-updated-browser-linux-os-december-says-musk/Oct 06 20:09
schestowitz"Why does a car need a web browser?"Oct 06 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek [ http://ur1.ca/pupvv ]Oct 06 20:09
schestowitznot to play pokemon go, that's for sureOct 06 20:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, People are paying Uber drivers to take them Pokemon hunting.Oct 06 20:11
schestowitzlolOct 06 20:15
schestowitzwaste of fuelOct 06 20:15
schestowitzand timeOct 06 20:15
schestowitzfacebook was mostly a waste of timeOct 06 20:15
schestowitzat least that stupid games makes some people walk around rather than watch tv all dayOct 06 20:15
DaemonFCIt looks like Hillary Clinton's lead is expanding in the polls.Oct 06 20:17
DaemonFCDonald Trump is going to have to convince a lot of people to vote for him over the next 33 days, and many states have voting going on now.Oct 06 20:18
DaemonFCSo it doesn't look likely.Oct 06 20:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784170349629956096Oct 06 20:19
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/89EOCSlj1gOct 06 20:19
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 20:19
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 20:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784174559238955009Oct 06 20:19
TweetTuxMachines                 The Arch Terminal Desktop https://t.co/iK7xu5qqZROct 06 20:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.lifehacker.co.in)Oct 06 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.co.in | The Arch Terminal Desktop | Life Hacker IndiaOct 06 20:19
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DaemonFCSome kind of catastrophe would have to happen in the next month, and even if it does, a lot of the votes are going to be locked in.Oct 06 20:19
DaemonFCYou can't vote early and then go back and change your mind.Oct 06 20:19
MinceRwon't uncertain voters just vote at the last moments?Oct 06 20:20
DaemonFCI never vote on election day. It's a great big clusterfuck of people who waited until the last minute.Oct 06 20:20
DaemonFCMinceR, Yeah.Oct 06 20:20
MinceRthere[3~  you go, lots of people voting on the last day :>Oct 06 20:20
MinceRthanks, irssiOct 06 20:20
DaemonFCMinceR, History shows that the more people turn out to vote, the more Democrats win.Oct 06 20:21
DaemonFCSo my thinking is that if John and I early vote, which we did, it means two less people standing in line then.Oct 06 20:21
DaemonFCMinceR, But all of the polls are open on election day. In early voting, that's not the case.Oct 06 20:22
DaemonFCIn Chicago, it starts at the Cook County building on September 29th, and the other early voting sites don't start opening until a couple of weeks later.Oct 06 20:22
DaemonFCBy election day, most people don't have to travel more than a block.Oct 06 20:22
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cubexyzok, re-examining df.c from unix v5, should be interestingOct 06 20:41
cubexyzdfOct 06 20:55
cubexyzoopsOct 06 20:55
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cubexyzreporting used and available blocks would be niceOct 06 21:06
cubexyzyou might be wondering if v6 and v7 did thatOct 06 21:07
cubexyzthey did notOct 06 21:09
cubexyzthe Unix v8 df command was much betterOct 06 21:11
cubexyztoo bad qmc didn't bother improving dfOct 06 21:22
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cubexyzevidently Ampex Corp made a new improved df but the source code wasn't recoveredOct 06 21:29
cubexyzah, too tired to dig into it nowOct 06 21:32
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/lenovo-in-talks-to-buy-fujitsus-loss-making-pc-business/Oct 06 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lenovo in talks to buy Fujitsu’s loss-making PC business | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqdz ]Oct 06 21:46
DaemonFCLenovo is taking over what's left of Fujitsu's PC business.Oct 06 21:46
DaemonFCLenovo is promising to keep existing factories and jobs, but eventually most will be closed/fired.Oct 06 21:47
DaemonFCWhen it took over Motorola it let people keep their jobs, but not for very long.Oct 06 21:47
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/cops-arrest-hundreds-of-people-allegedly-involved-in-irs-phone-scam/Oct 06 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Cops arrest hundreds of people allegedly involved in IRS phone scam | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqec ]Oct 06 21:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/784186274332676097Oct 06 21:50
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TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        (www.lifehacker.co.in)Oct 06 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.co.in | The Arch Terminal Desktop | Life Hacker IndiaOct 06 21:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784189450410528769Oct 06 21:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209111374180352Oct 06 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 First pfSense 2.3.2 Update Adds OpenSSL Security Fixes toOct 06 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 the BSD-Based Firewall https://t.co/h2hloKxAkJOct 06 21:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First pfSense 2.3.2 Update Adds OpenSSL Security Fixes to the BSD-Based Firewall | Tux MachinesOct 06 21:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209112758308864Oct 06 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool forOct 06 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/qRGlY6odjEOct 06 21:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux MachinesOct 06 21:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209113831964672Oct 06 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Open source IT pros are in high-demand in EuropeOct 06 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iAsIP3idtT (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 21:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source IT pros are in high-demand in Europe | Tux MachinesOct 06 21:50
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/10/gears-of-war-4-the-next-gen-is-now-if-youre-on-windows-10-at-least/Oct 06 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Gears of War 4: The next gen is now—if you’re on Windows 10, at least | Ars TechnicaOct 06 21:56
DaemonFCIf you use Intel graphics, you need their beta driver, or your computer will crash when you load the game.Oct 06 21:57
DaemonFC"Gears of War 4's campaign mode might be one of the worst I've played in years."Oct 06 21:58
DaemonFCGears of War fell off a pretty steep cliff after the first one.Oct 06 21:58
DaemonFCAnd it was really hard to play the campaign without a second player in some spots on the first game.Oct 06 21:59
DaemonFCMicrosoft marketed the Xbox One as a console capable of 4K, but the Gears of War 4 game is locked to 1080p and 30 fps.Oct 06 22:00
DaemonFCThis isn't the first time they fudged.Oct 06 22:00
DaemonFCHalo 3 on the XBOX 360 wasn't even rendered at 720p. It just upscaled.Oct 06 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209114826100737Oct 06 22:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 DeveloperOct 06 22:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Edition Laptop in US & EU https://t.co/gM1HQW28fWOct 06 22:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 Developer Edition Laptop in US & EU | Tux MachinesOct 06 22:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209116185042944Oct 06 22:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes KernelOct 06 22:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel Keyring Non-Containable | Tux MachinesOct 06 22:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ray_Aldred/status/784306959839223808Oct 07 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ray_Aldred: @schestowitz So now what sort of laptop should I buy that is #Linux friendly?! #lenovo used to be my go-to company. :(Oct 07 04:30
schestowitz#system76 maybeOct 07 04:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ray_Aldred/status/784312587529793536Oct 07 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ray_Aldred: @schestowitz I've been considering it, but sadly the word on the street (reddit discussion, ubuntu forums etc.) is #system76 is a mix bag.Oct 07 04:45
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Tervyhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/you_know_that_ridiculously_expensive_oculus_rift_yeah_it_just_got_worse/ about the custom headphonejacksOct 07 06:42
Tervywhy.jpgOct 07 06:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Y'know that ridiculously expensive Oculus Rift? Yeah, it just got worse • The RegisterOct 07 06:42
schestowitzdid anyone here try it?Oct 07 06:52
schestowitzI tried something similar, made me have a headache quicklyOct 07 06:52
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/rGJnIOct 07 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-History lesson: Katana myths dispelled - Album on ImgurOct 07 07:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784305262979010560Oct 07 07:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784309277359902720Oct 07 07:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership withOct 07 07:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Mediatek https://t.co/xL4KRT6e0z (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 07 07:20
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with Mediatek - Tizen ExpertsOct 07 07:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352452531392512Oct 07 07:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let'sOct 07 07:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Encrypt Certificates https://t.co/BAEP1TQTwTOct 07 07:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt CertificatesOct 07 07:20
MinceRdnf/yum/rpm quality package management >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/Oct 07 07:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352707880579074Oct 07 07:27
TweetTuxMachines                 MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming SoonOct 07 07:27
TweetTuxMachines                 to Ubuntu MATE 16.04 https://t.co/ksMiuFOkUFOct 07 07:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming Soon to Ubuntu MATE 16.04Oct 07 07:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353159363919872Oct 07 07:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool forOct 07 07:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/SLhd2vetxzOct 07 07:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for Ubuntu 16.04 LTSOct 07 07:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353559626276864Oct 07 07:28
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schestowitzMinceR: it's a good thing red hat has fedora to experiment on ;-)Oct 07 07:29
schestowitzso as not to affect their paying customersOct 07 07:29
MinceRexcept they deploy all their halfbaked shit to rHELL tooOct 07 07:31
MinceRlike systemdOct 07 07:31
MinceRsomeone needs to tell them that letting crappy software rot and fester for a year doesn't magically make it stableOct 07 07:31
MinceRyum was garbage as wellOct 07 07:31
MinceRand there's no indication that dnf is any betterOct 07 07:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784354553869336576Oct 07 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, ItOct 07 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Launches on October 13 https://t.co/Ew82eltFfWOct 07 07:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It Launches on October 13Oct 07 07:33
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oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch.  The end result that guys point of view  https://solettaproject.org/ or systemdOct 07 08:15
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TweetTuxMachines                 Tomb Raider for Linux is currently super cheap on theOct 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Feral store https://t.co/mMoElBsZc4Oct 07 08:54
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cubexyzboth Lenovo and System76 are merely system integratorsOct 07 09:11
cubexyzQuanta is the real manufacturer for Lenovo and many othersOct 07 09:11
cubexyzit's still Lenovo's fault that Linux didn't work on the Yoga 900 thoughOct 07 09:12
cubexyzClevo Computer makes laptops for system76Oct 07 09:13
cubexyzI've heard that the system76 machines aren't great with the BSDsOct 07 09:15
oiaohmcubexyz: BSD has less drivers than Linux so is very simple to end up land mined.Oct 07 09:18
oiaohmcubexyz: http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/OS/C236.cfm  some of the land mining is funny.Oct 07 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supermicro.com | Super Micro Computer, Inc. - Support | OS Compatibility Chart [ http://ur1.ca/puth5 ]Oct 07 09:20
oiaohmcubexyz: thoses are all the same core intel chipset do take note of the X11SATOct 07 09:21
oiaohmcubexyz: also Windows Server 2012 R2 64bit in UEFI section not booting.Oct 07 09:22
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cubexyzoiaohm, you're backOct 07 10:12
cubexyzhaven't seen you in a whileOct 07 10:12
cubexyzwow, no 32-bit support?Oct 07 10:13
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cubexyzI'm not a big fan of system76 or los alamos computersOct 07 10:21
oiaohmYes those boards don't have drivers for 32 bit.Oct 07 10:21
cubexyzthat would change if they supported coreboot... which to the best of my knowledge they don'tOct 07 10:21
oiaohmcubexyz: I saw how far I could get with only 2G of ram.Oct 07 10:21
oiaohmTurns out not far enough to run my irc clients happy enough with everything else.Oct 07 10:22
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cubexyzridiculous... :)Oct 07 10:22
cubexyzI'm using 256 megs on this boxOct 07 10:22
oiaohmI normally have firefox, chrome and libreoffice and vlc open.Oct 07 10:23
oiaohmPlus a irc client.Oct 07 10:23
cubexyzok, chrome and firefox are definitely memory pigsOct 07 10:23
oiaohmDon't underestimate vlc or apt update.Oct 07 10:24
oiaohmor apt upgrade.Oct 07 10:24
cubexyzyou can run IRCII in quasijarus on 16 megs Oct 07 10:24
oiaohmOne apt upgrade managed to eat though 4G of swap on top of the 2G of ram.Oct 07 10:24
oiaohmI could not work out why that was until I worked out zswap not in zbud mode is nasty.Oct 07 10:25
cubexyzyou must be running much heavier stuff than meOct 07 10:26
cubexyzopenbsd + icewm and 256 megs... and no issues with memoryOct 07 10:26
cubexyzpkg_add works fineOct 07 10:26
oiaohmFirefox and chrome hurt.Oct 07 10:26
oiaohmsame with vlc.Oct 07 10:26
oiaohmAt the moment vlc is using twice as much ram as chrome.Oct 07 10:27
cubexyzI must admit I never use vlcOct 07 10:28
oiaohmPut this way firefox, chrome or vlc in 2G of memory is fine.Oct 07 10:29
oiaohmWant to run all 3 at once like I do say hello to trouble.Oct 07 10:30
oiaohmAt 4G of ram I still cannot play 0ad with everything else loaded.Oct 07 10:30
oiaohmcubexyz: note this is running LXQt windows manager is it not that eating me out of house and home.Oct 07 10:31
oiaohmI think I have lived with 8G ram systems for too long to go back.Oct 07 10:32
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cubexyzI've heard of LXDE but not LXQtOct 07 10:34
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oiaohmhttps://blog.lxde.org/?p=1364   LXQt is a Qt based version of LXDE.  Over all close to the same memory foot print.Oct 07 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lxde.org | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | LXDE BlogOct 07 10:36
cubexyzok, interestingOct 07 10:36
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oiaohmcubexyz: catch you around off to bed.Oct 07 10:40
cubexyzok, laterOct 07 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424105881640960Oct 07 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/RSGNrI0QQ8Oct 07 12:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux MachinesOct 07 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424106963841024Oct 07 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/0u56G1wE6SOct 07 12:04
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TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 07 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424108075257856Oct 07 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft Wants Data, Loses Data https://t.co/cgIUd6n1SlOct 07 12:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Wants Data, Loses Data | Tux MachinesOct 07 12:04
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/q7iYpRoOct 07 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You can't delete that file - ImgurOct 07 12:07
razielle_tzulolOct 07 12:08
cubexyzthe error message is that the file exists?Oct 07 12:16
razielle_tzuyeahOct 07 12:16
cubexyzthey need 8 hex digitals to keep track of all the different errorsOct 07 12:19
cubexyzdigitsOct 07 12:19
cubexyzmicrosoft office error: 0x0000000FF1CEOct 07 12:21
cubexyzdon't use 0xDEADC0DEOct 07 12:22
razielle_tzuhehOct 07 12:22
cubexyzin theory it's possible to max out number of temp files on windowsOct 07 12:31
cubexyzmaybe there's a 65,635 file limit or somethingOct 07 12:32
cubexyzso if you had 65,635 temp files and tried to delete a file it's possible you would have to delete some temp files firstOct 07 12:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424109128101888Oct 07 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800Oct 07 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 languages, including dead ones https://t.co/i4HKDEEncqOct 07 12:39
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TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800 languages, including dead ones | Tux MachinesOct 07 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424110185074689Oct 07 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, ItOct 07 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Launches on October 13 https://t.co/ILnZp85I6sOct 07 12:39
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TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It Launches on October 13 | Tux MachinesOct 07 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@inet_solutions  http://twitter.com/inet_solutions/status/784428717229613057Oct 07 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines I think you might find this article aboutOct 07 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 the top 25 SEO facts & stats extremely interestingOct 07 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4l5azRnWgs (www.inetsolutions.org)Oct 07 12:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.inetsolutions.org/25-informative-seo-facts-statistics-probably-dont-know/ )Oct 07 12:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/AmiRojkes/status/784433512841637891Oct 07 13:16
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership withOct 07 13:16
TweetTuxMachines @AmiRojkes      Mediatek https://t.co/xL4KRT6e0z (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 07 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with Mediatek - Tizen ExpertsOct 07 13:16
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/QX6W3Eo.gifvOct 07 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLEOct 07 13:16
MinceRhttp://cube-drone.com/comics/c/magic-eight-ballOct 07 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cube-drone.com | Cube Drone - - Magic Eight BallOct 07 13:30
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antilopehiOct 07 13:46
antilopethis is how an internal EPO court looks like, including an Austrian judge..Oct 07 13:47
antilopehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzz700H6T9MOct 07 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Roland Freisler - President of the German Nazi Court (with subtitles) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/puugm ]Oct 07 13:47
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/iHB8bgz.jpgOct 07 14:18
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DaemonFCMozilla has been talking about split-process, Pepper API, and replacing pdf.js with PDFium.Oct 07 14:20
DaemonFCI kind of wonder, at this point, why they don't just rebase on Chromium, which already has all of the features they are trying to shoehorn into Firefox.Oct 07 14:21
DaemonFCOpera gave up on Presto for the same reason.Oct 07 14:21
MinceRi stopped caring about what they do when they made pulseaudio mandatoryOct 07 14:24
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MinceRhttp://jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu/2012/08/julius-caesar-wally-wood-mad-monday.htmlOct 07 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu | Inside Jeff Overturf's Head: "Julius Caesar!" - Wally Wood - Mad Monday! [ http://ur1.ca/puupt ]Oct 07 14:45
MinceR(short-lived) https://i.4cdn.org/b/1475865972340.pngOct 07 14:49
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schestowitz[13:15] <oiaohm> MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch.  The end result that guys point of view  https://solettaproject.org/ or systemdOct 07 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 07 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://solettaproject.org/ )Oct 07 15:08
schestowitzposted a link to it the other day, maybe that's where oiaohm found itOct 07 15:08
MinceRmore cancerd advertisement, i don't careOct 07 15:08
MinceR(also mixed up with some IoT advertisement)Oct 07 15:08
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schestowitzMinceR:yes, yum I always found to be sucky compared to aptOct 07 15:09
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schestowitzdnf is hardly excited, the yum guy died, shortly afterwards they rebranded their packagingOct 07 15:09
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schestowitz[19:18] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/iHB8bgz.jpgOct 07 15:20
schestowitzcrudeOct 07 15:20
MinceRi don't see howOct 07 15:20
schestowitznot for the faint-heartedOct 07 15:21
schestowitzwell, let's just say I won't post it publiclyOct 07 15:22
schestowitzalthough there's a funny element to itOct 07 15:22
schestowitzI don't get the one with the tapOct 07 15:22
schestowitzclearly it was designed this wayOct 07 15:23
schestowitznot as a prankOct 07 15:23
schestowitzmaybe the world's worst plumber, my friend had experience with a few recently, one after another they messed up the bath, each time  with different shoddy workOct 07 15:23
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MinceRhttps://media.giphy.com/media/ZsXORybHZvEpq/giphy.gifOct 07 15:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ElinaBeauchamp/status/784477703621664768Oct 07 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ElinaBeauchamp: @yahoo is not worth anything anymore https://t.co/TdR4cBSxKPOct 07 15:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476402041192448Oct 07 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 "join the Debian LEGO team in the Alioth project weOct 07 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 created yesterday" https://t.co/gd5jFbu41sOct 07 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (people.skolelinux.org)Oct 07 15:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.skolelinux.org | Petter Reinholdtsen: Isenkram, Appstream and udev make life as a LEGO builder easierOct 07 15:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476862735056900Oct 07 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, AndroidOct 07 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hccZoFp3nW (www.slashgear.com)Oct 07 15:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/784479007014346752Oct 07 15:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArnoldDuendis/status/784483624452186112 https://twitter.com/kempton276/status/784484224657219586  https://twitter.com/ThomasPaine5/status/784485843834576896Oct 07 16:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka malgnd by stupid,impatient ppl.wik never said oct 4 would be anything more than what it was.dummies cant read.Oct 07 16:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThomasPaine5: @Thomas_Drake1 @schestowitz @Sulliview And then their market cap dropped by $1 billion.Oct 07 16:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784482038409793537Oct 07 16:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel,Oct 07 16:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Android OEMs, and more https://t.co/ZFMNQukgGMOct 07 16:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (arstechnica.com)Oct 07 16:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel, Android OEMs, and more | Ars TechnicaOct 07 16:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784489455788953600Oct 07 16:31
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-secret-ingredientOct 07 16:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Groundstain/status/784493921627799552Oct 07 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Groundstain: @schestowitz @wikileaks I did not even think about donating to them.Thanks for the suggestion.Oct 07 16:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784491847586500608Oct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Why public libraries need to support open sourceOct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mECGH8Vefn (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why public libraries need to support open source | Tux MachinesOct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784491848806961156Oct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/m9s1FO1CLvOct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 07 16:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784495394654973964Oct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for DeploymentOct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 in GNU/Linux Distros https://t.co/3Lft6QYg5mOct 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/GSYnFfAxA3 (lwn.net)Oct 07 16:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment in GNU/Linux DistrosOct 07 16:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784495594794516480Oct 07 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.7.7 https://t.co/axNBAh2bsT (lwn.net)Oct 07 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.4.24 https://t.co/vjPVL0dgYk (lwn.net)Oct 07 17:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784496114435297280Oct 07 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMCOct 07 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 option https://t.co/ngdHfHaOrJ (hackerboards.com)Oct 07 17:00
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMC optionOct 07 17:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784496368433893376Oct 07 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Why Linux pioneer Linus Torvalds prefers x86 over ARMOct 07 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/r4668WPj1I (www.cio.com)Oct 07 17:00
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Linux pioneer Linus Torvalds prefers x86 over ARM | CIOOct 07 17:00
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/KMjxiYV.jpgOct 07 18:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784498645748113408Oct 07 18:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9: F2FS Gets Performance Enhancements, EXT4 GetsOct 07 18:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Fixes https://t.co/lJl8VcaP1U (www.phoronix.com)Oct 07 18:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9: F2FS Gets Performance Enhancements, EXT4 Gets Fixes - PhoronixOct 07 18:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784498741944446977Oct 07 18:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel Integrated Sensor Hub (ISH) Support In Linux 4.9Oct 07 18:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel https://t.co/XWnzKkuYLr (www.phoronix.com)Oct 07 18:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Integrated Sensor Hub (ISH) Support In Linux 4.9 Kernel - PhoronixOct 07 18:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784503283062808577Oct 07 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd Now Supports The RISC-V CPU ArchitectureOct 07 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hSg2I54F5G (www.phoronix.com)Oct 07 18:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Systemd Now Supports The RISC-V CPU Architecture - PhoronixOct 07 18:28
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for...'Oct 07 18:28
MinceR>cancerd is not portable between cpu architecturesOct 07 18:29
MinceRwhat a piece of shitOct 07 18:29
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cubexyzok, new blog...Oct 07 19:05
cubexyzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/Oct 07 19:05
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cubexyzHopefully it's somewhat helpfulOct 07 19:05
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/p-humansOct 07 20:09
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for...'Oct 07 21:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784531566718488577Oct 07 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run AwayOct 07 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 From Linux https://t.co/93G1qcEVmU (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 07 21:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away From Linux | Tux MachinesOct 07 21:37
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/eHiqFDEOct 07 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sure windows 10, I'd love to give some Microsoft.WindowsFeedback! - ImgurOct 07 21:38
cubexyzI'll betOct 07 21:42
MinceR:>Oct 07 21:43
MinceRhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186Oct 07 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 817186 – systemd incorrectly handles virtual text terminalsOct 07 22:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784584002581716994Oct 07 23:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Graphics https://t.co/jRYG2UiahGOct 07 23:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux MachinesOct 07 23:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784584004410417152Oct 07 23:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel News https://t.co/cc0ZjyP96eOct 07 23:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel News | Tux MachinesOct 07 23:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784591500822847488Oct 07 23:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20Oct 07 23:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mXGcWnkncU (techrights.org)Oct 07 23:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20 | TechrightsOct 07 23:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600282961481729Oct 07 23:44
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/sqHCv3jTfuOct 07 23:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 07 23:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 07 23:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600284496551937Oct 07 23:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/LFRtaSdZ6nOct 07 23:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 07 23:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesOct 07 23:44
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Microsoft https://t.co/Nq5BUQlJwZOct 08 01:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Microsoft | Tux MachinesOct 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600287424176128Oct 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/Vg2OySPppJOct 08 01:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600289869459456Oct 08 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/uQyulaOjOBOct 08 01:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/784621248454287362Oct 08 04:22
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for DeploymentOct 08 04:22
TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    in GNU/Linux Distros https://t.co/3Lft6QYg5mOct 08 04:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/GSYnFfAxA3 (lwn.net)Oct 08 04:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment in GNU/Linux DistrosOct 08 04:22
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schestowitz[03:04] <MinceR> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186Oct 08 04:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 817186 – systemd incorrectly handles virtual text terminalsOct 08 04:48
schestowitzMinceR: 2012Oct 08 04:48
schestowitztalk about dead horse by now..Oct 08 04:48
oiaohmschestowitz: not exactly that bug is still alive in debian stable.   Reason for using backports systemd.Oct 08 05:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784670318883397633Oct 08 06:00
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20Oct 08 06:00
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/mXGcWnkncU (techrights.org)Oct 08 06:00
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 06:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20 | TechrightsOct 08 06:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784694490925821952Oct 08 06:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Xiaomi Mi Box Now Available in U.S.: Android TV 6.0 withOct 08 06:00
TweetTuxMachines                 4Kp60 Output for $69Oct 08 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/G5oUZBXPvL (www.anandtech.com)Oct 08 06:01
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | Xiaomi Mi Box Now Available in U.S.: Android TV 6.0 with 4Kp60 Output for $69Oct 08 06:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784694976768860161Oct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines                 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye Oct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/aNmKYCJUsj (www.makeuseof.com)Oct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public EyeOct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784696174896873472Oct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in SeptemberOct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yKnbjF0dlO (www.fool.com)Oct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September -- The Motley FoolOct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784696972649299968Oct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung Z2 Officially Launched in KenyaOct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7JAqdXia3c (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 08 06:09
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z2 Officially Launched in Kenya - Tizen ExpertsOct 08 06:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784697245501366272Oct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Core 16 Beta Linux distro for PC available now --Oct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 coming soon to Raspberry Pi https://t.co/wRoojMFxAgOct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (betanews.com)Oct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Ubuntu Core 16 Beta Linux distro for PC available now -- coming soon to Raspberry PiOct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701109134766080Oct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/HBUe4JuxzPOct 08 06:25
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TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701110955106304Oct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen in Africa https://t.co/p9elmy7lrsOct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 08 06:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen in Africa | Tux MachinesOct 08 06:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701112657981440Oct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September and More RedOct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Hat Financial News https://t.co/ypZaA8bs58Oct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Red Hat, Inc. Gained 11% in September and More Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesOct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701113740038144Oct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/V4vwEVrw2eOct 08 06:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux MachinesOct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784701114834837504Oct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public EyeOct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GL8TLq4lP7 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Ways Mr. Robot Is Putting Linux in the Public Eye | Tux MachinesOct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784703267511083008Oct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run AwayOct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 From Linux https://t.co/n9scNZgqZ4Oct 08 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Oct 08 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away From Linux - LinuxAndUbuntuOct 08 06:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784703434834513920Oct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 LeEco Accidentally Reveals Phone, Android TV Lineup AheadOct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 of U.S. Launch https://t.co/XxRLTduxfp (variety.com)Oct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LeEco to Sell Bargain-Priced Phones, Android TVs in the US (Leak) | VarietyOct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784703647137591296Oct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX8 “eCockpit” SoC arrives, with media and IoT versionsOct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 coming https://t.co/OogI04e6HN (hackerboards.com)Oct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | i.MX8 "eCockpit" SoC arrives, with media and IoT versions comingOct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784710162565259265Oct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Enlightenment's Ecore_Drm2 Library Is Working Out WellOct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 For Wayland Support https://t.co/XhvM1PpA1vOct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 08 07:02
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enlightenment's Ecore_Drm2 Library Is Working Out Well For Wayland Support - PhoronixOct 08 07:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/K3SARA/status/784709861871202304\Oct 08 07:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K3SARA: @schestowitz Google Chrome does the same when you sync your passwords.Oct 08 07:09
schestowitzYes, an even greater evilOct 08 07:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784710428270223360Oct 08 07:37
TweetTuxMachines                 "The Wine maintenance release 1.8.5 is now available."Oct 08 07:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OJTdKeOQwh (www.winehq.org)Oct 08 07:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine maintenance release 1.8.5 is now available.Oct 08 07:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784719244369858562Oct 08 07:37
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE Leftovers https://t.co/dnlKkd3vKwOct 08 07:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 08 07:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 08 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 08 07:37
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MinceRschestowitz: still CLOSED WONTFIXOct 08 07:41
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oiaohmMinceR: there was a new version of that bug in 2014 that in fact got fixed.Oct 08 08:22
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oiaohmMinceR: turned out the reason why X11 had to be vt1 also linked to why systemd would lose serial terminals.Oct 08 08:25
oiaohmMinceR: do note I am running systemd my X11 is on vt7 I am using Nvidia drivers and I am also using LXDM and everything works perfectly these days.Oct 08 08:29
MinceRgood for youOct 08 08:30
MinceRuntil suddenly it isn'tOct 08 08:30
oiaohmMinceR: that particular bug is fixed.Oct 08 08:30
oiaohmMinceR: if you are running modern enough systemdOct 08 08:30
oiaohmMinceR: do not I am running testing debian.   Do the same thing on stable debian strange things do come out.Oct 08 08:31
oiaohmnot/noteOct 08 08:31
MinceRstrange things will happen to you tooOct 08 08:31
oiaohmThat is the thing since version 225 most of the strangeness stopped.Oct 08 08:34
oiaohmI am on 231 at moment.Oct 08 08:34
oiaohmOnly strangeness left is with some wm login out and finding session does not end in logind.   But that is mostly due to those wm in fact leaking processes on logout.Oct 08 08:35
MinceRthe design flaws are still thereOct 08 08:36
MinceRand the evil politics are also still thereOct 08 08:36
MinceRdebian is still a smoldering ruinOct 08 08:36
MinceRbut some people keep going "it hasn't blown up in my face yet, so it must be perfect"Oct 08 08:36
MinceRenjoy your reinvented windowsOct 08 08:36
MinceRwhat i don't get is that if systemd people love huge opaque hairballs with atrocious designs, why don't you just run windowsOct 08 08:37
oiaohmThat is the thing quite a few of the design flaws have in fact gone by by ok not all of them but they have been reducing.Oct 08 08:39
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MinceRso, what are the separated major components named? where are the stable APIs between them?Oct 08 08:39
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oiaohmMinceR: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/libsystemd/libsystemd.sym  stable API between them I guess you did not look into libsystemd .so file.  Yes its versioned.  221 is where you see the sd_bus appear.Oct 08 08:46
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MinceRso what if it's versioned? there are no minor versionsOct 08 08:49
MinceRthe whole thing churns like hellOct 08 08:49
oiaohmThat is not true.Oct 08 08:49
oiaohmMinceR: look again.Oct 08 08:49
MinceRit's amusing how you systemd people like to redefine terms like 'modular' and 'stable' to try to make this mess look goodOct 08 08:49
oiaohmNot at all.Oct 08 08:49
oiaohmStable ABI only starts appearing in systemd at the first version in libsystemdOct 08 08:50
MinceRhell, even 'free software' was effectively redefine to accommodate ratcrap's microsoftian tacticsOct 08 08:50
oiaohmMinceR: so all versions of systemd with version numbers less than 209 have no stable ABI.Oct 08 08:50
oiaohmThis is why I said reducing.Oct 08 08:52
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oiaohmMinceR: churns like hell applies to the earlier version of systemd.   Really its annoying how long it took systemd to get to building stable ABI.Oct 08 08:53
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oiaohmMinceR: systemd bad ABI starts with a bad idea.   kdbus ie get kdbus into kernel after that stabilised the interfaces.   Not good logic.Oct 08 08:56
MinceRlet's not get started on bad ideas in how systemd started, that would last for a weekOct 08 08:56
oiaohmLike for sure you don't want to be using systemd lower than 221 the interconnects between stuff in those versions are too much cross fingers and pray.Oct 08 08:58
oiaohmBut there are a lot of different Linux LTS versions release with systemd less than 221Oct 08 08:59
oiaohmMinceR: also do note systemd has not double version any function so far because every time they have added a function to the ABI it has stayed absolutely the same.Oct 08 09:03
oiaohmMinceR: so systemd is getting something right these days.Oct 08 09:03
MinceRyet debian and even rHELL released with earlier versionsOct 08 09:04
MinceRsystemd "stable"Oct 08 09:04
MinceRsystemd will get something right when it gets shut down and replaced with GNU againOct 08 09:04
MinceRnot that it would restore my trust in the distros that touted it as "stable"Oct 08 09:05
oiaohmThe problem here is sysvinit and upstart before system are both broken.Oct 08 09:06
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MinceRthe problem here is that you're still pretending that systemd is just an init systemOct 08 09:06
MinceRand that sysvinit and upstart are just as broken as systemdOct 08 09:07
MinceRand that other init systems don't even existOct 08 09:07
oiaohmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I  this guy and others tried all the different init systems before going systemd or writing soletta because everything was technically broken.Oct 08 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 08 09:09
oiaohmWhat is the problem for years debian, redhat everyone just kept on using sysvinit or other imported init systems from Unix.   Linux kernel does a lot of things that is not Unix like at all.Oct 08 09:10
MinceRagain, implying that systemd is not brokenOct 08 09:11
MinceRdespite all evidenceOct 08 09:11
oiaohmsystemd turns out to be less broken.Oct 08 09:11
MinceRin your dreams, maybeOct 08 09:11
oiaohmNot in my dreams.Oct 08 09:11
MinceRyou never studied software engineering, have you?Oct 08 09:11
oiaohmIn fact I have.Oct 08 09:11
MinceRand you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc?Oct 08 09:12
XFaCEMinceR: like that minor ddos flaw that crashes a systemOct 08 09:12
XFaCE"minor"Oct 08 09:12
MinceRyeahOct 08 09:12
MinceRnot distributed thoughOct 08 09:12
MinceRif you mean the notify thingOct 08 09:12
XFaCEMinceR: in which a systemd developer demonstrated ignoranceOct 08 09:12
XFaCEsever ignoranceOct 08 09:12
MinceRall it takes is 1 unprivileged userOct 08 09:12
XFaCE*severeOct 08 09:12
oiaohmIn fact no.Oct 08 09:12
XFaCEyepOct 08 09:12
MinceR08 151201 < MinceR> and you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc?Oct 08 09:12
XFaCEbut it was fixed, so this "minor" flaw is acceptableOct 08 09:12
oiaohmThe reported dos required systemd built with debugging.Oct 08 09:12
MinceRyou know, things an init system is supposed to doOct 08 09:12
MinceRnot run a web server as root in pid1, and shit like thatOct 08 09:13
XFaCEhttps://www.agwa.name/blog/post/systemd_is_not_magic_security_dustOct 08 09:13
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oiaohmMinceR: systemd does not run a web server as pid1Oct 08 09:13
MinceRoh, it doesn't?Oct 08 09:13
oiaohmMinceR: never has.Oct 08 09:13
MinceRthat's a reliefOct 08 09:13
MinceRthen it just does a dozen other things as root in pid1Oct 08 09:13
MinceRlike parsing untrusted inputOct 08 09:14
oiaohmMinceR: systemd is a multi process thing if a web server is kicked up it is it own pid.Oct 08 09:14
MinceRand communicating on the networkOct 08 09:14
MinceRyeah, except when it is notOct 08 09:14
oiaohmNo communicating on network is not in pid.Oct 08 09:14
oiaohmopps pid1Oct 08 09:14
MinceRnot even the one that brings up a random container on your machine?Oct 08 09:14
oiaohmLots and lots of things people claim are in systemd pid1 are not.Oct 08 09:14
MinceR(because obviously an "init system" must do that too)Oct 08 09:14
MinceRlots of things still are in pid1, thoughOct 08 09:14
oiaohmMinceR: container importing that is no pid1 never has been.Oct 08 09:15
MinceRi suppose you're also ignoring the vulnerabilities its dns resolver adds to the systemOct 08 09:15
oiaohmMinceR: dns resolver of systemd is it own process and can be disabled and does support processing dnssec where glibc default does not.Oct 08 09:16
MinceRdoes dnssec help with its severe vulnerabilities?Oct 08 09:16
MinceRgood to hear there's one thing you can disable in that hairball thoughOct 08 09:16
oiaohmMinceR: dnssec makes it harder to spoof dns entries.Oct 08 09:16
MinceRunlike the part that fucks up your system logsOct 08 09:16
MinceRah, so you're ignoring the issuesOct 08 09:17
MinceRclassic cognitive dissonanceOct 08 09:17
oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I  < do watch and see how much of systemd he manages to turn off.Oct 08 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 08 09:17
oiaohmMinceR: he even turns off to shock horror journald completely.Oct 08 09:18
XFaCEMinceR: " Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients.""Oct 08 09:18
MinceRwatch how much of systemd i can turn offOct 08 09:18
XFaCEMinceR: systemd-free.org :)Oct 08 09:18
oiaohmMinceR: turns out systemd will fall back to using old school logging if journald is removed.Oct 08 09:18
MinceR(hint: all of it)Oct 08 09:18
XFaCEMinceR: schestowitz https://davmac.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/why-do-we-keep-building-rotten-foundations/Oct 08 09:19
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XFaCE"The new release of Gtk is going to be fully parallel-installable with the old one. Gtk 4 and Gtk 3 will install alongside each other in exactly the same way as Gtk 2 and Gtk 3 — separate library name, separate pkg-config name, separate header directory. You will be able to have a system that has development headers and libraries installed for each of Gtk 2, 3, 4 and 5, if you want to do that."Oct 08 09:20
XFaCE"Meanwhile, Gtk 4.0 will not be the final stable API of what we would call “Gtk 4”. Each 6 months, the new release (Gtk 4.2, Gtk 4.4, Gtk 4.6) will break API and ABI vs. the release that came before it."Oct 08 09:20
XFaCE"We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system"Oct 08 09:20
MinceRi wonder if anyone other than gnome will want to use that crapOct 08 09:21
XFaCEMinceR: I wonder how long until they rename it libgnomeOct 08 09:21
MinceR:>Oct 08 09:22
XFaCEMinceR: Gnome runtime? XDOct 08 09:22
oiaohmXFaCE: the DBUS API for DNS resolution is due to the horrible reality DNS normal protocol is not design to cope with a case where you have DNS entries with and without DNSSEC at the same time.Oct 08 09:22
MinceRlendows internal library #4324Oct 08 09:22
oiaohmXFaCE: Ie no space in protocol to send mess yes we got X resolve but its insecure.Oct 08 09:23
MinceRoiaohm: yeah, that would be impossible to do with a function call to a libraryOct 08 09:23
MinceRit's not like you can just add parametersOct 08 09:23
MinceRor use structs to pass parameters or receive results inOct 08 09:23
XFaCEMinceR: Talking around I've learned that DBUS could have been implemented using the existing TIPC support in the Linux kernelOct 08 09:24
XFaCEand better tooOct 08 09:24
MinceRyeahOct 08 09:24
oiaohmMinceR: the library defines that need to be updated is for libc  posix standard and gnu c have defined the library DNS functions.Oct 08 09:25
MinceRtoo bad "better" is not how lendows people functionOct 08 09:25
XFaCEbut that would violate the "not invented here" doctrineOct 08 09:25
MinceRexactlyOct 08 09:25
MinceRoiaohm: yeah, it's impossible to add another library or another functionOct 08 09:25
MinceRwhich is why gtk also doesn't existOct 08 09:25
MinceRand neither does libsystemdOct 08 09:25
XFaCEor or lib.*Oct 08 09:26
XFaCE/lib.*Oct 08 09:26
oiaohmMinceR: then you will complain about applications have a solid systemd dependancy.Oct 08 09:27
MinceRnoOct 08 09:27
MinceRthis dbus fuckage is what generates a solid systemd dependencyOct 08 09:27
XFaCEof course, there isn't a huge incentive by the sysd people to have thoseOct 08 09:27
XFaCEcoughOct 08 09:27
XFaCE"We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system"Oct 08 09:27
XFaCEoopsOct 08 09:28
MinceRbecause only systemd is stupid enough to use dbus for things that don't need dbus and are actually more fragile with dbusOct 08 09:28
XFaCE" Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients."Oct 08 09:28
MinceRremember, dbus is "designed" to require a reboot to be restartedOct 08 09:28
MinceRand yet we're supposed to use that crap on servers and workstationsOct 08 09:28
oiaohmdbus was design to be posix netural in the first place leading to it not using stuff like TIPC.Oct 08 09:28
MinceRoiaohm: here's another thing that should have been obvious: it's possible to implement a DNS resolver library as an independent projectOct 08 09:29
MinceRit doesn't have to be part of systemdOct 08 09:29
XFaCEoiaohm: lol of courseOct 08 09:29
XFaCElet's not use an existing STANDARD protocolOct 08 09:29
oiaohmMinceR: the standard DNS resolver library format need to be updated for DNSSECOct 08 09:29
XFaCE"Dual BSD/GPL licensed code" - TIPC featureOct 08 09:29
oiaohmMinceR: that is the bit in the libc standard defines.Oct 08 09:29
MinceRoiaohm: a few moments ago you said it was impossibleOct 08 09:29
MinceRmake up your mind alreadyOct 08 09:29
oiaohmMinceR: currently impossible because those guys are stuck in a 3 year aguement so far about how in hell it should be implemented.Oct 08 09:30
MinceR"posix neutral" as in "If developers don't force themselves into the constraints of the POSIX API, they could develop some really innovative software, like systemd shows."Oct 08 09:30
MinceRoiaohm: well, if you don't want to understand what i'm telling you, then don'tOct 08 09:31
oiaohmMinceR: DNS resolver library standard has not been updated for DNSSEC.   systemd developers wasted 2 years attempting to get it updated before going the dbus route.Oct 08 09:32
oiaohmMinceR: lets just say that one problem leaded to a meg out of control cat fight in the old UNIX camp.Oct 08 09:33
XFaCEMinceR: Given the Gnome devs behaviour on Transmission, I'm gonna guess they went on the issue tracker and demanded rudely that their demands come firstOct 08 09:33
oiaohmNot everything systemd does is their fault some cases there are some really stupid things going on.Oct 08 09:35
MinceRoiaohm: yes, because coming up with a new dbus call is somehow more acceptable than coming up with a new library callOct 08 09:35
oiaohmMinceR: the arguement is currently 42 new library calls.Oct 08 09:35
MinceRyes, stupid things like letting poettering design anythingOct 08 09:35
oiaohmMinceR: so you cover all the random crap they are implementing.Oct 08 09:35
XFaCEMinceR: Coming up with dbus from scratch is more acceptable than using an existing standard protocolOct 08 09:35
XFaCEofcOct 08 09:36
MinceRXFaCE: gnome always comes first, apparentlyOct 08 09:36
oiaohmXFaCE: they tried the standard protocol way first only to find you have 42+ different ways to implement it all ready.Oct 08 09:36
MinceRit's more important than other people's servers or my workstationsOct 08 09:36
oiaohmXFaCE: all incompadible.Oct 08 09:36
MinceRand instead if picking one or coming up with their own, they made it depend on the toy known as dbusOct 08 09:37
MinceRlendows logicOct 08 09:37
oiaohmXFaCE: dbus way at least you can put a wrapper on it.Oct 08 09:37
MinceRyeah, it's impossible to wrap c functionsOct 08 09:37
XFaCEa turd wrapped in gold is still a turdOct 08 09:37
MinceRwhich is why nobody ever did itOct 08 09:37
oiaohmXFaCE: I am not saying it not a turd.Oct 08 09:37
MinceRyes you areOct 08 09:37
MinceRin so many wordsOct 08 09:37
oiaohmBut its a turd formed because of a very much bigger turd.Oct 08 09:37
MinceRin so many turdsOct 08 09:38
XFaCE"Sure Windows is poorly conceived, but that's only cause of OS/2!"Oct 08 09:38
oiaohmI really wish a proper dns resolver spec with dnssec mixed with non dnssec support would become agreed on then killing the systemd dbus stuff would be possible.Oct 08 09:39
XFaCEaha, the "Windows has games" argumentOct 08 09:40
MinceRyeah, because killing systemd lock-in is so easyOct 08 09:40
XFaCEMinceR: Yeah, it's not like there are developers intentionally crippling certain alternatives too?Oct 08 09:41
XFaCE*cough*Gentoo*cough*Oct 08 09:41
XFaCE*cough*OpenRC*cough*Oct 08 09:41
XFaCEthank goodness for RunitOct 08 09:42
MinceRyeah, nobody ever said things like "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."Oct 08 09:42
oiaohm soletta that is not systemd processes systemd unit files.Oct 08 09:42
MinceRso it's garbage, like systemdOct 08 09:42
MinceRdoes it also silently ignore changes in unit files if the changes are incorrect, like systemd does?Oct 08 09:42
MinceRalso, soletta is for IoT, which i don't care forOct 08 09:43
MinceRat least until IoT zombies start DDoSing stuff i useOct 08 09:43
XFaCEMinceR: or the next president declares a cyberwarOct 08 09:43
MinceRwhy declare wars anymore, it's so much easier to just do what you wantOct 08 09:43
oiaohmsoletta is designed for iot so as compact as possible.   Soletta does not ignore errors in unit files.Oct 08 09:43
MinceRignoring citizens and keeping everyone in the darkOct 08 09:43
oiaohmsystemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider.Oct 08 09:44
MinceRand soletta is modeled after systemd, making it the ideal target for IoT exploitsOct 08 09:44
MinceRyeah, you can replace it with a fork of itselfOct 08 09:44
MinceRor with a different implementation of the same braindead toxic designOct 08 09:44
oiaohmThere is no systemd code in solettaOct 08 09:44
XFaCEoh it's replaceable - but by something completely incompatibleOct 08 09:44
XFaCEwhich is a good thing fortunatelyOct 08 09:45
MinceRall i ever dreamed of doing is reimplementing some idiot's broken dbus APIs for the sake of compatibilityOct 08 09:45
MinceR(and remember, dbus is garbage)Oct 08 09:45
XFaCEMinceR: ItOct 08 09:45
XFaCEIt's like being a wine developerOct 08 09:45
MinceRexactlyOct 08 09:46
XFaCEminus any appeal whatsoeverOct 08 09:46
MinceRbut since ratcrap is not called microsoft, they get a free passOct 08 09:46
MinceReven from people who noticed the wrongdoings when m$ did themOct 08 09:46
MinceRi'm looking at you, Gratis Windows FoundationOct 08 09:46
oiaohmMinceR: soletta no dbus.Oct 08 09:46
XFaCEMinceR: nah, those same people are now clapping over new Microsoft and the Linux subsystemOct 08 09:46
MinceRyeahOct 08 09:47
XFaCE"new"Oct 08 09:47
MinceRoiaohm: so how will soletta replace systemd?Oct 08 09:47
MinceRoiaohm: how will it satisfy the demands of gnome looking for systemd-timedated and systemd-hostnamed?Oct 08 09:47
oiaohmI did not say soletta will in it current form be able to replace it all.   Compared to attempting to transfer shell scripts between init systems vs unit files it turns out unit files are fairly bug free.Oct 08 09:50
MinceR08 154407 < oiaohm> systemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider.Oct 08 09:50
MinceRlooks like systemd is a lot less replaceable than you considered.Oct 08 09:50
XFaCEMinceR: nah, the uselessd developer was just lazyOct 08 09:50
MinceRoiaohm: have you ever seen bsd rc files?Oct 08 09:50
XFaCEamiriteOct 08 09:50
MinceRuselessd was just a pointless forkOct 08 09:51
MinceRremoving random bits from systemd won't fix the underlying severe design flawsOct 08 09:51
MinceRand neither will it fix the cult's behaviorOct 08 09:51
oiaohmMinceR: bsd rc files are a lot more common sense than sysvinit have been.Oct 08 09:51
XFaCEok, I agree oiaohm Oct 08 09:51
XFaCEthen why didn't we switch to OpenRC instead?Oct 08 09:51
MinceRoiaohm: see, debian's and redhat's rc files being complex is not sysvinit's faultOct 08 09:51
MinceRXFaCE: because we're pretending openrc doesn't existOct 08 09:52
XFaCEor runitOct 08 09:52
MinceRit's far more to justify forcing everyone to systemd if we pretend only sysvinit and systemd existOct 08 09:52
XFaCEit's sysVinit or nothingOct 08 09:52
XFaCENOTHINGOct 08 09:52
MinceRs/more/easier/Oct 08 09:52
oiaohmOpenrc even today still has more crashing faults than the first systemd.Oct 08 09:52
oiaohmSo basically not ready.Oct 08 09:52
MinceRgood, you can replace itOct 08 09:52
XFaCEactually, it's stable, unless you count post 0.13 versionsOct 08 09:52
MinceRsystemd is not ready eitherOct 08 09:52
MinceRdid that stop the cultists?Oct 08 09:52
XFaCEwhereby a systemd developer has basically been sabotaging itOct 08 09:53
MinceRwhen will they get rid of that asshole?Oct 08 09:53
XFaCEMinceR: hard to say, he's entrenched and knows how to play the bureaucratic gameOct 08 09:53
oiaohmMinceR: to be correct sysvinit is based on faultly logic that a process id will never be reused leading to hacks around that.Oct 08 09:53
MinceRcan he also affect funtoo and other forks or only gentoo?Oct 08 09:54
XFaCEMinceR: fortunately forks are already in progress, and Funtoo exists as an alternativeOct 08 09:54
XFaCEonly gentooOct 08 09:54
XFaCEfuntoo stopped at version 0.12Oct 08 09:54
MinceRoiaohm: still far less faulty in practice than systemd relying on a system they themselves admit does not work reliablyOct 08 09:54
XFaCEMinceR: in other words, they saw the writingOct 08 09:54
MinceRXFaCE: i seeOct 08 09:54
MinceRoiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown?Oct 08 09:55
MinceRs/sed/ses/Oct 08 09:55
XFaCEMinceR: even so, there's always runitOct 08 09:56
oiaohmoiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown? that was fixed in 220Oct 08 09:56
XFaCEVoid Linux uses itOct 08 09:57
MinceRthat's greatOct 08 09:57
MinceRtoo bad enterprise clients got sold 219Oct 08 09:57
oiaohmMinceR: Ubuntu and redhat backported the patch.Oct 08 09:57
MinceReven in rHELL 7.2Oct 08 09:57
oiaohmIn updates.Oct 08 09:58
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MinceRah, so that's the new "stable" releaseOct 08 09:58
MinceRit doesn't work at all, but don't worry, we'll fix it eventuallyOct 08 09:58
XFaCEMinceR: like the GTK framework :POct 08 09:59
MinceRif your business critical stuff fails in the meantime, that's just too fucking badOct 08 09:59
XRevan86MinceR: Linux 3.8.0?Oct 08 09:59
MinceRXRevan86: systemd 219, rHELL 7.2Oct 08 09:59
XRevan864*Oct 08 09:59
MinceRXRevan86: i thought linux stopped making stable releases long agoOct 08 09:59
XRevan86https://kernel.org/Oct 08 10:00
XRevan86> stable: 4.8.1, 4.7.7Oct 08 10:00
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MinceRoiaohm: remember, sysvinit could shut down systems reliably, with SIGTERM, pause, SIGKILLOct 08 10:00
MinceRfor decades.Oct 08 10:00
MinceRbut i guess that's just not "modern" enoughOct 08 10:00
oiaohmMinceR: no sysvinit had the other problem where at times the system would not shutdown at all.Oct 08 10:00
MinceRyeah, systemd had that tooOct 08 10:01
oiaohmMinceR: they fixed that with over killing.Oct 08 10:01
XRevan86systemd has a watchdog which waits for a while, then shutdowns eventually.Oct 08 10:01
oiaohmsysvinit does not have a critical watchdog.Oct 08 10:01
XRevan86so the point of shutting down is always eventually achievedOct 08 10:01
MinceRyeah, just your stuff doesn't get to save its stateOct 08 10:02
MinceRlike shell historyOct 08 10:02
MinceRbut who needs thatOct 08 10:02
MinceRyanking the power cord out is the new "modern"Oct 08 10:02
oiaohmMinceR: yanking the power cord was kind of the jammed sysvinit solution.Oct 08 10:02
XRevan86if bash won't shutdown for 10 minutes, I doubt shell history will be lost because of the watchdog %)Oct 08 10:02
MinceRagain, if i wanted to run an OS that can't do anything reliably, i'd just run the winblows i was forced to buy along with my hardware.Oct 08 10:02
oiaohmMinceR: and hoping your discs were properly flushed.Oct 08 10:03
XFaCE[10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern"Oct 08 10:03
XFaCEMS DOS :POct 08 10:03
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MinceRor you could use magic sysrqOct 08 10:03
MinceRexcept...Oct 08 10:03
MinceRhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/12/21/1554227Oct 08 10:03
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cubexyzI don't remember seeing any problem with sysvinit on Xenix or LinuxOct 08 10:03
oiaohmMinceR: magic syqrg does not promise disc flushing either.Oct 08 10:03
XRevan86watchdog is per-serviceOct 08 10:03
XFaCE[10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern"Oct 08 10:04
MinceRoiaohm: at least it lets you tell the system to sync everything and unmount everythingOct 08 10:04
XFaCEthe new modern is installing stuff in virtual containers and when it breaks just rebooting or replacing said VMOct 08 10:04
XFaCEwho care about long-term reliabilityOct 08 10:04
MinceRi doOct 08 10:04
MinceRbut then, i'm not running lendowsOct 08 10:04
oiaohmcubexyz: you need some badly behaved items loaded to have shutdown issues on Xenix but it possible.Oct 08 10:04
MinceRand i don't buy into the "VMs will fix all our problems" religion eitherOct 08 10:04
MinceRyeah, badly behaved items do that on linux too -- like systemdOct 08 10:05
XFaCEMinceR: it won't fix them, but it will obfuscate around them nicelyOct 08 10:05
MinceR:)Oct 08 10:06
oiaohmcubexyz: I locked a Xenix up with a 2 scripts where every time one died the other started a new copy.Oct 08 10:06
MinceRand add some more problemsOct 08 10:06
MinceRand help hw salesOct 08 10:06
cubexyzoiaohm, which version of Xenix? Or was it Unix SysV?Oct 08 10:06
cubexyzbtw I've been running Linux Sysvinit (FC1) since 2004Oct 08 10:07
oiaohmcubexyz: System V.2.3.4  the 1991 of XenixOct 08 10:08
cubexyzif you really don't like sysvinit why not run one of the BSDs?Oct 08 10:08
cubexyzfor server...Oct 08 10:09
XRevan86daemontools is the worstOct 08 10:09
MinceRhe'd rather run windowsOct 08 10:09
MinceRbut can only afford the closest gratis thing, systemdOct 08 10:09
oiaohmMinceR: I hate windows way more than I hate sysvinit.Oct 08 10:10
cubexyzI have a server that does automatic shutdowns when the UPS loses powerOct 08 10:10
cubexyzno problems...Oct 08 10:10
MinceRoiaohm: but you like svchost, don't you?Oct 08 10:10
cubexyzand I have 12 years of experience with itOct 08 10:10
oiaohmMinceR: svchost great way to hide a virus.Oct 08 10:10
MinceRcubexyz: i had that too, until the machine decided it won't talk to my ups anymoreOct 08 10:10
MinceRoiaohm: exactlyOct 08 10:10
MinceRoiaohm: same thing is true for systemdOct 08 10:10
oiaohmNo systemd in fact has proper reporting of what is contained.Oct 08 10:11
MinceRsureOct 08 10:11
oiaohmsvchost you can have it completely lie.Oct 08 10:11
MinceRdid it properly report all the unchecked null dereferences too?Oct 08 10:11
cubexyzMinceR, I assume you were using apcupsd?Oct 08 10:11
oiaohmWindows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call.Oct 08 10:11
MinceRi'm using nutOct 08 10:11
MinceRi have an eaton upsOct 08 10:12
cubexyzyou can reload the USB sub-system I think'Oct 08 10:12
cubexyzif it stops communicatingOct 08 10:12
MinceRi guess the next reboot will fix it...Oct 08 10:12
MinceReven lsusb hangsOct 08 10:12
MinceRand i can't even kill it with ^COct 08 10:12
MinceR08 161155 < oiaohm> Windows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call.Oct 08 10:13
MinceRof course it didOct 08 10:13
MinceRthey come from the same cultureOct 08 10:13
MinceRand have the same underlying ideaOct 08 10:14
cubexyzI would try reloading usb-storage, but maybe your system is differentOct 08 10:14
oiaohmdaemontools + sysvinit was a great way to let lose hell.Oct 08 10:14
cubexyzrmmod usb-storage then insmod usb-storage fixed some issues for meOct 08 10:14
MinceRif i ping timeout, it didn't :>Oct 08 10:14
cubexyzalso some external usb hard drives should be avoidedOct 08 10:15
XFaCEcubexyz: examples?Oct 08 10:15
MinceRnope, not even loaded hereOct 08 10:15
MinceRthere are no usb devices plugged into the server other than the upsOct 08 10:15
oiaohmMinceR: no systemd is more GNU culture of badly copy Unix world stuff.   I have told you before the unix world stuff they were attempting to copy.Oct 08 10:15
cubexyzXFaCE, any really el cheapo chinese onesOct 08 10:15
MinceRoiaohm: which unix world stuff does stuffing several unrelated services in the same process?Oct 08 10:15
cubexyzI think WD one of the better onesOct 08 10:16
oiaohmMinceR: X11Oct 08 10:16
MinceRoiaohm: show me a windowing system that is more modular than X11.Oct 08 10:16
cubexyzanyways my only shutdowns have happened when the utility power fails for longer periods of timeOct 08 10:17
oiaohmMinceR: there are so many windows systems truly more modular not bound to a single event loop for decades.Oct 08 10:17
cubexyzalso I made some reliability improvements to FC1 and I understand it pretty well Oct 08 10:18
MinceRoiaohm: which of them do properly separate out the window manager and the widget toolkit?Oct 08 10:18
cubexyzMinceR, your Linux is probably significantly different from my FC1 serverOct 08 10:18
MinceRyeahOct 08 10:18
cubexyza lot of stuff has changed since thenOct 08 10:18
oiaohmMinceR: system in fact fires off a lot of processes.   So does not really stuff unrelated stuff into the same process.  Oct 08 10:19
MinceRoiaohm: non sequiturOct 08 10:19
oiaohmMinceR: X11 core server until recently had input and 2d rendering in the same thread.   This is why when X11 server starts rendering hard input would freese.Oct 08 10:19
MinceRi'm pretty sure the job of init, rc, udev, [x]inetd, crond and atd are still in pid1Oct 08 10:19
oiaohmMinceR: only one out if that list is in fact in systemd pid1.Oct 08 10:20
MinceRoiaohm: other windowing systems tend to build the window manager and the widget toolkit into the display server. far less modular, far less flexible.Oct 08 10:20
MinceRoiaohm: [citation needed]Oct 08 10:20
oiaohmMinceR: lot of those things are fired off by the PID1 but not in the PID1.Oct 08 10:21
MinceRoiaohm: [citation needed]Oct 08 10:21
oiaohmsystemd-udevd.service  << this is because udevd is a service in it own right with its own pid.Oct 08 10:22
MinceRright, so that's udevOct 08 10:22
MinceRwhat about the others?Oct 08 10:22
cubexyzxchat and X itself used the most CPU timeOct 08 10:22
cubexyznot httpd Oct 08 10:22
cubexyzsignificantly more Oct 08 10:22
oiaohmMinceR: you will find inetd, crond and atd stuff are all services under systemd in own right.Oct 08 10:23
MinceRwhat are they called?Oct 08 10:23
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MinceRnot only did systemd take over the job of crond, it even broke crond with cgroups cargo cultingOct 08 10:27
cubexyzif you really wanted to be strict you could run your server without X runningOct 08 10:28
cubexyzoiaohm, did your 1991 Xenix have internet running? Oct 08 10:29
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/uh2-2.jpgOct 08 10:29
cubexyzwow, 2.3.4 is pretty oldOct 08 10:30
cubexyzdon't think my Xenix ever had TCP/IP Oct 08 10:30
oiaohmcubexyz: Xenix was something stand alone monoring stuff.Oct 08 10:31
cubexyzI think sysv stuff started around 1983 so it's been around for a long timeOct 08 10:33
cubexyzsolaris was a SVR4 derivative Oct 08 10:34
cubexyzSun went from BSD derived to SVR4 derivedOct 08 10:35
cubexyzI sure don't remember people talking about sysvinit problems back thenOct 08 10:36
cubexyzheck, a driver bug could bring down the system in any caseOct 08 10:38
cubexyzor resource exhaustionOct 08 10:39
cubexyzor hardware failureOct 08 10:39
oiaohmcubexyz: resource exhaustion happened lot when restarting services losing still running processes.Oct 08 10:39
oiaohmLets just say sysvinit failure to track was not being linked back to sysvinit.   Instead lets attempt to replace X service with Y service and hope it don't leak.Oct 08 10:40
cubexyzdoesn't the OOM killer supposed to fix that in Linux?Oct 08 10:40
oiaohmOOM killer can still cause data loss.Oct 08 10:41
cubexyztrueOct 08 10:41
cubexyzwell you need a good operator watching thingsOct 08 10:41
oiaohmSo you don't want to be hitting resourse exhaustion becuase you have been restarting a service and it has not been restarting cleanly.Oct 08 10:41
oiaohmWe have need something better than sysvinit for some time.Oct 08 10:42
oiaohmcubexyz: also remember you don't want to be paying a operator to watch stuff 24/7.   This is where being able to set proper limits on services come in.Oct 08 10:43
oiaohmcubexyz: catch you around.Oct 08 10:44
cubexyzlater :)Oct 08 10:44
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cubexyznowadays the Linux processes have /proc/some_PID/oom_scoreOct 08 10:46
cubexyzanyways, I know how FC1 does things so I'm usually not surprisedOct 08 10:47
cubexyzhackers are always trying new tricks thoughOct 08 10:47
cubexyzI think the IBM mainframes do a better job of watchdogging thingsOct 08 10:49
cubexyzfor one thing.. the hardware is a lot more redundantOct 08 10:51
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cubexyzalso a mainframe probably does have a 24/7 operator Oct 08 10:52
cubexyzwe even did for PDP-10sOct 08 10:52
cubexyzthe mainframe OS might even be _smaller_ than the PC versionOct 08 10:53
cubexyzthere's no GUI stuff in thereOct 08 10:53
cubexyzI should try running linux on S390 sometimeOct 08 11:00
cubexyzthere's a couple of things I'm curious aboutOct 08 11:00
cubexyzthere's even a Gentoo for IBM Z systemsOct 08 11:01
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XFaCEcubexyz: I have used Z/OS beforeOct 08 11:10
XFaCEthe GUI is... refreshing primitive :POct 08 11:10
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MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dd1-4.jpgOct 08 11:28
MinceR>Please do not swallow bags of unpopped popcorn before dying, you are giving our cremation technicians nervous tics!Oct 08 11:30
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MinceRhttp://www.vhemt.org/nofuture.jpgOct 08 12:59
cubexyz'07 but we're still around... ;)Oct 08 13:05
cubexyzno mad max yetOct 08 13:06
cubexyzBizarro reminds me of the Far Side a bitOct 08 13:11
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe-l%27%C5%93ilOct 08 13:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/784805517122236416Oct 08 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz You mean you'd like to be buried at sea or actually be minced & sold as feed to a salmon waterfarm? ;-)Oct 08 13:22
schestowitzThe latter would profit for me, so no, the formerOct 08 13:22
schestowitzThe latter would profit from me, so no, the formerOct 08 13:22
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/a/YUNgzOct 08 14:27
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cubexyzah a pity, discovered another part of Unix v5 is missing: splineOct 08 16:25
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cubexyzwow, did Unix v5 cc use extern or notOct 08 16:27
cubexyzok, yes it did... so there's a change that the v5 version of cc could compile Unix v6 spline.cOct 08 16:29
cubexyzok, this is one complex chunk of codeOct 08 16:34
cubexyzif this works, it will be the most complex program recompiled for v5Oct 08 16:35
cubexyzv6 and v5 spline.c could be the same, I don't have any way of knowingOct 08 16:35
cubexyzbahOct 08 16:41
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Nothing seems to be raising Lenovo's stock price for very long.Oct 08 17:36
DaemonFCThe Linux news goes out, it drops from $5.24 HKD to $5.09. They announce the Motorola layoffs, it bounces back for a few days, then goes back down. They announce they're acquiring Fujitsu's PC business, same thing.Oct 08 17:37
DaemonFCIt seems to be finding its support around 5.14-5.20 HKDOct 08 17:37
DaemonFChttp://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/Oct 08 17:38
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DaemonFCSomeone asked why it would be an issue since "Windows 10 is the same OS on every device.".Oct 08 17:39
DaemonFCNot true. Those phones require customization by the OEM.Oct 08 17:39
MinceRthere's no customization that would make Backdoors10 not shitOct 08 17:39
DaemonFCMinceR, I mean to get it running on each device.Oct 08 17:40
MinceRmy condolencesOct 08 17:40
DaemonFCThere's a reason they can't offer hundreds of phones running Windows 10. They would run into the same problem you get with Android.Oct 08 17:40
MinceRwhich "problem", diversity?Oct 08 17:41
DaemonFCApple has to support a handful of phones. Android OEMs have to customize the firmware for each device.Oct 08 17:41
MinceRor that there are few devices that aren't shit?Oct 08 17:41
MinceRyeah, all of crApple's devices are garbageOct 08 17:41
MinceRand so is the OS running on themOct 08 17:41
DaemonFCIntel had a plan to make phones where the same Android image would run on all of them.Oct 08 17:41
DaemonFCThey backed out though, so we have to deal with this ARM mess some more.Oct 08 17:42
MinceRah, ARM being a total mess is the problemOct 08 17:42
DaemonFCThe SoCs are all very different.Oct 08 17:43
DaemonFCI'd like to have Intel smartphones. It would help the OEMs keep Android more current.Oct 08 17:44
DaemonFCToo much porting work. OEMs already don't want to support their older hardware. This just gives them something else to blame.Oct 08 17:46
MinceRtoo bad intel sucks at power consumptionOct 08 17:46
DaemonFCIt's not as bad as it used to be. There were a ton of unbelievably shitty Android phones running Gingerbread that went on for way too long.Oct 08 17:47
DaemonFCMinceR, Not their current stuff.Oct 08 17:47
MinceRso why isn't it in phones?Oct 08 17:47
DaemonFCI'm not entirely certain.Oct 08 17:48
DaemonFCA lot of these flagship phones running ARM SoCs get shit battery life.Oct 08 17:48
DaemonFCLike the Galaxy S6.Oct 08 17:48
MinceRit seems samsung got rid of the people who knew how to design phonesOct 08 17:49
DaemonFCThere have been numerous software updates for my phone, it still goes 100-0 in like 5-6 hours of actual use.Oct 08 17:49
DaemonFCThis is one of the worst phones I have ever owned.Oct 08 17:49
MinceRthey used to make a galaxy s5 which had a removable battery, memory card slot and was waterproofOct 08 17:49
MinceRnow all they make are hypePhone-imitating timebombsOct 08 17:50
DaemonFCJohn's S6 Edge cracked for no reason.Oct 08 17:50
DaemonFCIt was fine when he put it on the table and the next morning, the screen was cracked.Oct 08 17:50
MinceRthough maybe if they looked hard, they could find material for backplates that are even less fit for the purposeOct 08 17:50
MinceRsay, uraniumOct 08 17:50
MinceRor mercuryOct 08 17:50
DaemonFCMinceR, I'm trading in my S6 as soon as I can.Oct 08 17:50
DaemonFCIt's a lease, so I'm going to drop by Best Buy and turn it in the day the lease expires.Oct 08 17:51
DaemonFCI have about 10 months to go.Oct 08 17:51
DaemonFCThe next phone must have Micro SD slot, removable battery, and stock Android without bloatware.Oct 08 17:51
MinceRdo such phones even exist?Oct 08 17:52
DaemonFCMinceR, 5-6 hours is unacceptable, but it was worse.Oct 08 17:52
DaemonFCSprint and Samsung packed my phone full of battery killing crapware.Oct 08 17:52
DaemonFCOnedrive drains your power even if you never set up an account.Oct 08 17:52
DaemonFCIt keeps heckling you until you disable it.Oct 08 17:52
MinceRcan you use unlocked phones in the usa?Oct 08 17:53
DaemonFCAnd Sprint loaded Lookout, a horrible antivirus program that wastes power scanning every file and app.Oct 08 17:53
DaemonFCMinceR, You can, if you want to buy it for full price.Oct 08 17:53
DaemonFCSprint gave me a package deal that includes unlimited LTE data and unlimited calls and texts, and the phone is basically waived from the price of the plan.Oct 08 17:54
MinceRthat would get rid of the carrier's bloatwareOct 08 17:54
DaemonFCThey were really pushing the lease hard so that's why I got the S6. It was basically that or an iPhone.Oct 08 17:54
MinceRewOct 08 17:54
DaemonFCMinceR, I've been working around the shit battery life on the S6 by carrying a power bank around with me.Oct 08 17:55
MinceRmaybe they could try making phone casings out of radioactive gallium isotopesOct 08 17:56
DaemonFCSamsung phones have really been going downhill since the S6 came out.Oct 08 17:56
MinceRand beforeOct 08 17:57
cubexyzbackdoors10 not shit == impossibleOct 08 18:11
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/Oct 08 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : LenovoOct 08 18:11
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point 4 days ago Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFCFailure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold.Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFC"Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo."Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFC[...]Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFCSorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason:Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFCLenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFCError:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program.Oct 08 18:12
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DaemonFC[–]PlsAnswer19836 [S] 1 point 1 day ago Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFCWhat do you mean?Oct 08 18:12
MinceRhttp://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1054.htmlOct 08 18:12
DaemonFC    permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplyOct 08 18:12
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DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFCI mean that they won't give you a recovery stick in case Windows gets hosed and your OneKey Recovery doesn't work.Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFCThat basically guarantees that eventually, many people will have to ship their laptop to Lenovo and hope they get it back sometime before the sun flash boils the oceans and then engulfs the inner planets. :)Oct 08 18:12
cubexyzyeah I think I'll give the Yoga a missOct 08 18:12
cubexyzjust a hunchOct 08 18:12
DaemonFCThe hardware is pretty nice.Oct 08 18:12
DaemonFCIt's this damned BIOS that ruins it.Oct 08 18:13
MinceRi'll keep staying away from non-thinkpad lenovosOct 08 18:13
DaemonFCYou can't do anything except use Windows 10 with it.Oct 08 18:13
MinceRas i always did :>Oct 08 18:13
cubexyzand R30's :)Oct 08 18:13
cubexyzyou probably won't like those Oct 08 18:13
MinceRwhat are they like?Oct 08 18:14
cubexyzhard to fix, and they overheatOct 08 18:14
MinceRicOct 08 18:14
DaemonFCSo there's this company called AdReclaim that stuffs pages full of Clickbait "Taboola" style ads and pop-unders, but only if the user has ad blocking.Oct 08 18:14
DaemonFCIt exploits a bug in Chrome that stops content blockers from blocking websockets requests.Oct 08 18:15
DaemonFCThe company claims it can evade 100% of ad blockers, but that only seems to be the case in Chrome.Oct 08 18:15
DaemonFCIn Firefox, their method doesn't work. In Edge, their method doesn't work. In Internet Explorer with TPL ad blocking lists, their method doesn't work. In Opera with the built-in ad blocker, their method doesn't work.Oct 08 18:16
DaemonFCTwo-thirds of desktop web browser users now use Chrome, so maybe they figure that's good enough.Oct 08 18:16
DaemonFCTheir business will die off if Google ever decides to patch Chrome.Oct 08 18:16
DaemonFCMaybe they just plan to make as much money as they can until Google gets around to that.Oct 08 18:17
DaemonFCOr if enough sites deploy AdReclaim that people flood back to Firefox to get away from it.Oct 08 18:18
DaemonFCAdblock Plus still hasn't bothered to solve the Facebook issue. ublock-origin did.Oct 08 18:19
DaemonFCI guess ABP is too busy working on effectively becoming adware to worry about this.Oct 08 18:19
DaemonFCMinceR, I've been working on energy efficiency for a while now.Oct 08 18:20
DaemonFCBetween John and me, we're using about 4 kWh per day.Oct 08 18:20
DaemonFCThat's down from about 7 or 8. That's base load, not counting air conditioning, which we don't need for the better part of 9 months out of the year in Illinois.Oct 08 18:21
DaemonFCThe landlords run a boiler system for heat.Oct 08 18:21
DaemonFCIllinois will probably be facing an energy crisis within the next five years.Oct 08 18:22
DaemonFCComEd is threatening to shut down two nuclear power plants unless the state gives them a billion dollars and the state doesn't have a billion dollars because it's Illinois.Oct 08 18:23
DaemonFCSo we'll move from being a net exporter of power to a net importer of power.Oct 08 18:23
DaemonFCThe people running this state are idiots.Oct 08 18:24
DaemonFCThey've been asking voters to vote no on the transportation lockbox constitutional amendment (after they passed it and got it on the ballot to keep people from going door to door gathering support through a citizen initiative).Oct 08 18:25
DaemonFCThey're yanking a billion dollars a year from transportation taxes and spending it on other things, which is extremely stupid.Oct 08 18:25
DaemonFCWe get federal matching funds on almost all of the transportation projects that aren't being funded, so the state loses a billion a year from the federal government.Oct 08 18:26
DaemonFCSo I voted yes on the lockbox.Oct 08 18:26
DaemonFCI would have voted to stop them from raiding other things, if I could.Oct 08 18:26
DaemonFCAs far as the Democrats are concerned, the entire state should be sacrificed on the altar of unfunded teacher pensions.Oct 08 18:27
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/jpbrammer/status/784787726604333056Oct 08 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jpbrammer: Mike Pence is an earnest man who simply wants to electrocute LGBT children until they're straight. Shame he's been dragged into this mess.Oct 08 18:55
DaemonFCMinceR, Speaking of Pence...Oct 08 19:30
DaemonFChttps://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx30Q8OI7WC8YP&newContentID=MxRRHB72E4ONX5#MxRRHB72E4ONX5Oct 08 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Indiana BMV caught with their hand in the cookie jar again. Overcharging customers with illegal fees to contribute to the Republican "surplus". [ http://ur1.ca/pv231 ]Oct 08 19:30
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MinceRhttp://9gag.com/gag/aK3odWbOct 08 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Who do you think would win - 9GAGOct 08 19:43
cubexyzhaOct 08 19:49
cubexyza lot of these chromebooks have 16 gig SSD'sOct 08 19:52
cubexyzseems a bit on the small sideOct 08 19:52
MinceRindeedOct 08 19:57
MinceRgoogle wants you to keep your data in the ClownOct 08 19:57
MinceRhopefully the bloat of the web and/or the obsolescence of small SSDs will force them to use bigger onesOct 08 19:58
DaemonFCMinceR, More of them are using 32 GB SSDs now.Oct 08 20:04
DaemonFCPlus you can store data on an SD card or USB thumb drive.Oct 08 20:05
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/6S8Jnht.jpgOct 08 20:06
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cubexyzok, got a bit of work doneOct 08 20:44
cubexyzmade some much needed improvements to df for v5Oct 08 20:44
cubexyznow it's closer to what openbsd doesOct 08 20:51
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MinceRbig surpriseOct 02 00:00
DaemonFCThey open Edge, use it to download Chrome or Firefox, and then never open Edge again.Oct 02 00:00
MinceRpeople wised up to m$ changing names and logos instead of fixing codeOct 02 00:00
DaemonFCMinceR, I saw a thing on Facebook the other day. Wish I downloaded it.Oct 02 00:00
DaemonFCIt was from Rick and Morty. The episode where they made a butter dish with artificial intelligence.Oct 02 00:00
DaemonFC"What's my purpose!?" You serve butter!Oct 02 00:01
DaemonFCSomeone put an MS Edge logo on its face and it says "What's my purpose!?" You download Chrome!Oct 02 00:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 02 00:02
MinceRhttps://ageofshitlords.com/student-officially-changes-personal-pronoun-majesty/Oct 02 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ageofshitlords.com | Student officially changes his personal pronoun to "His Majesty" - Age Of ShitlordsOct 02 00:02
MinceRyeah, i think i've seen thatOct 02 00:02
DaemonFCMinceR, Adding up all versions of IE and Edge, you get about the same number of users as Firefox.Oct 02 00:02
DaemonFCBut Firefox users are mostly all on the same version. Or ESR at the least.Oct 02 00:02
MinceRi don't care, i switched to Pale MoonOct 02 00:02
DaemonFCMany IE users are using a version that MS stopped supporting and aren't even getting security fixes.Oct 02 00:02
DaemonFCThere's no support for IE 10 or earlier now.Oct 02 00:03
DaemonFCWell, IE 9 if you're on Vista, but only until April.Oct 02 00:03
DaemonFCBut that has so few users that it's barely worth mentioning. Oct 02 00:04
DaemonFCEven Paul Thurrott criticized Edge.Oct 02 00:04
DaemonFCHe said something like, "Even if Edge started out on par with the rest, and it is far from it, only releasing new versions of it a couple of times a year means that it would never be able to keep up.".Oct 02 00:05
DaemonFCMS is treating it like an OS component instead of an app, so it can't get updates apart from Windows.Oct 02 00:05
DaemonFCSo you're stuck with whatever state it's in from the last release of the OS, probably for the next 9-10 months.Oct 02 00:06
DaemonFCMinceR, Someone on Reddit made a Windows 10 lookalike in HTML 5. If you click on Cortana "Ask Me Anything" it says "Just kidding. I'm useless.".Oct 02 00:07
DaemonFCSo I went back to the topic and commented "You got Cortana right, at least.".Oct 02 00:07
MinceR:DOct 02 00:07
MinceRurl?Oct 02 00:07
DaemonFChttp://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~tvillare/win10/Oct 02 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-users.csc.calpoly.edu | Desktop [ http://ur1.ca/ptshe ]Oct 02 00:08
MinceRlol, thxOct 02 00:09
DaemonFCRyan FarmerOct 02 00:10
DaemonFCJust now · Oct 02 00:10
DaemonFCSo if you launch No Man's Sky with an Intel graphics adapter, it crashes and says "Sorry, Intel graphics are unsupported.".Oct 02 00:10
DaemonFCI heard that there's a hack to get around this and run it anyway. Some guy on Youtube was running it on an HD 4400, which is much slower than my Iris 540. So I'm in the process of trying to find the hack.Oct 02 00:10
DaemonFCAnyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?Oct 02 00:11
DaemonFCMinceR, I understand there's a library that fakes the game out and tells it that you have an Nvidia card, and then the game works.Oct 02 00:11
cubexyzI'm surprised people aren't more worried about the intel ME backdoorOct 02 00:12
DaemonFCThat reeks of bad design. They couldn't just blacklist the Intel chipsets that really couldn't run it?Oct 02 00:12
DaemonFCThey should have tested at least on the recent Intel adapters and whitelisted them.Oct 02 00:12
MinceRblacklisting also reeks of bad designOct 02 00:12
MinceRjust document it and let the user tryOct 02 00:12
cubexyzME can be active during hiberation...Oct 02 00:13
cubexyzdedicated connection to the network interface INDEPENDENT of the cpuOct 02 00:14
DaemonFCMinceR, You mean like "This game uses features that pre-2015 Intel graphics don't have. It may perform poorly or crash.". in the system requirements?Oct 02 00:15
DaemonFCYeah, that would be fair.Oct 02 00:15
MinceRyesOct 02 00:15
DaemonFCMinceR, I just posted this on their Facebook wall.Oct 02 00:17
DaemonFCRyan Farmer‎ to No Man's SkyOct 02 00:18
DaemonFCJust now · Oct 02 00:18
DaemonFCSo if you launch No Man's Sky with an Intel graphics adapter, it crashes and says "Sorry, Intel graphics are unsupported.".Oct 02 00:18
DaemonFCI heard that there's a hack to get around this and run it anyway. Some guy on Youtube was running it on an HD 4400, which is much slower than my Iris 540. So I'm in the process of trying to find the hack.Oct 02 00:18
DaemonFCAnyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?Oct 02 00:18
DaemonFC(This reeks of bad design. Just document that you don't support it and let the user try. How the hell do you know what Intel graphics will be capable of in the coming years? A blanket blacklist stays around forever!)Oct 02 00:18
MinceRyou pasted that one already :>Oct 02 00:19
DaemonFCYeah, added the part at the bottom.Oct 02 00:19
DaemonFCI still have games from ~10 years ago where if it returns Intel they won't let you play it.Oct 02 00:20
DaemonFCThere's fixes for those too.Oct 02 00:20
MinceRahOct 02 00:21
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4xk0od/fix_for_video_card_without_opengl_45/Oct 02 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | FIX for video Card without OPENGL 4.5 : NoMansSkyTheGameOct 02 00:22
DaemonFCApparently, the game is only using one extension from OpenGL 4.5 and crashes without it.Oct 02 00:23
DaemonFCGL_EXT_depth_bounds_testOct 02 00:23
schestowitz[23:49] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I'll replace Windows 10 as soon as they get Linux to recognize the SSD.Oct 02 00:24
schestowitzIf you get the German version  of this device ;-)Oct 02 00:24
DaemonFCI don't know if that was an ISK2 that he had though, schestowitz Oct 02 00:25
DaemonFCIf he has an ISK it will install no problem.Oct 02 00:25
schestowitznot sure, not been following itOct 02 00:25
schestowitzkeep chasing, I'll spread the wordOct 02 00:25
schestowitzI don't want to write about it yetOct 02 00:26
DaemonFCLenovo did the ISK2 as a mid-cycle refresh, and they added a processor upgrade with better graphics. The Iris 540 on mine, the HD 520 on the ISK.Oct 02 00:26
schestowitzbut I took lots of notesOct 02 00:26
schestowitzand registered all the resultant articles and blog posts about itOct 02 00:26
DaemonFCThe HD 520 is really really slow. It can't run many things. Iris 540 = many games become playable at 1366x728 at medium or better graphics settings.Oct 02 00:27
DaemonFCThere's also Iris Pro 580, but that's not an option on the Yoga unfortunately. Would have bought that if it was though.Oct 02 00:27
DaemonFC*1366x768Oct 02 00:28
DaemonFCGLInterceptx64_1_3_3.exe 1/55 says it's a virus on VirusTotal.Oct 02 00:30
DaemonFCWTF is Bkav?Oct 02 00:30
DaemonFCLOLOct 02 00:30
DaemonFCYou can put just about any Windows program in VirusTotal and have at least one go off due to false positive.Oct 02 00:30
DaemonFCW32.eHeur.Malware09Oct 02 00:30
DaemonFCThat suggests that the heuristics scanner of that one AV program didn't like something about the file.Oct 02 00:31
DaemonFCOf course, it could be anything, even the file compression.Oct 02 00:31
DaemonFCbkav appears to be some off brand antivirus program from Vietnam.Oct 02 00:32
DaemonFCProbably explains why I never heard of it. Why does Google put this crap in VirusTotal?Oct 02 00:32
DaemonFCI applied the workaround. Now to see if it loads.Oct 02 00:36
DaemonFCNope.Oct 02 00:46
DaemonFCThat's okay. I always try them out before I buy them anyway.Oct 02 00:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AuthorJCStorms/status/782365209214136320Oct 02 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AuthorJCStorms: @schestowitz Per nation? As in each nation chooses their rule of censorship? Yeah, for Europe, that's NOT fucking good.Oct 02 00:47
DaemonFCGog and Steam weasel their way out of their Money Back Guarantee from what I hear.Oct 02 00:47
schestowitzThey always did that using filtering software, sometimes law enforcement. Now it's getting worse due to policy.Oct 02 00:47
DaemonFCSteam warns people that the <2 hours of play and owning for <2 weeks MBG is "not to be used to figure out if it works and then get your money back if it doesn't".Oct 02 00:47
DaemonFCSince I can't figure out why anyone would try to use the MBG for anything else, that renders it worthless.Oct 02 00:48
DaemonFCSo it makes more sense to just grab it somewhere else, see if it works, and then buy it if it does.Oct 02 00:48
DaemonFCTrying to return software that doesn't work has always been dicey. Usually, they're happy to just leave you out the money and with a program that doesn't work on your computer.Oct 02 00:49
DaemonFCWhen software was sold in boxes at stores, if it didn't work, I'd actually put it in shrinkwrap myself and then use a hairdryer on it and say I got it as a birthday present and it didn't work on my computer.Oct 02 00:51
DaemonFCThe law says if it's still in the shrinkwrap, you can return it.Oct 02 00:52
DaemonFCNobody who makes $8 an hour at Walmart is going to argue too much.Oct 02 00:52
DaemonFCApparently the original The Witcher game was censored for the North American release, but not the international version?Oct 02 00:54
DaemonFCInteresting. The US is usually better about free speech than the rest of the English speaking countries.Oct 02 00:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AuthorJCStorms/status/782367233578184704Oct 02 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AuthorJCStorms: @schestowitz So you think this is inherently better this transfer take place? To an international group?Oct 02 00:55
DaemonFCThe UK recently arrested a man for saying that a woman was going to go to hell for wearing tight pants.Oct 02 00:55
schestowitzThe international group would not do more than what's already being done anyway, sometimes worseOct 02 00:55
DaemonFCMaybe it was to avoid the ESRB MA rating, but that doesn't make sense. That dictates what stores will carry it as store policy, but it was released directly over the internet.Oct 02 00:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782367286183227392 Oct 02 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: "intel inside" has a whole new meaning https://t.co/6HDGCHj06ROct 02 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: What good is a so-called 'smart' device if it's remotely controlled not by users but by malicious entities like #gchq who view you as enemy?Oct 02 00:56
schestowitzBack doors (ME). See http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_OffencesOct 02 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel Crimes and Offences - TechrightsOct 02 00:56
DaemonFCschestowitz, Recent AMD processors have their version of the same thing.Oct 02 00:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pceebee23/status/782367305648840704Oct 02 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pceebee23: @schestowitz and they use it relentlessly... all comms all the time...Oct 02 00:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, I knowOct 02 00:56
schestowitzRussia is leaving x86 behindOct 02 00:57
DaemonFCschestowitz, Lenovo Forums seems to have banned all Comcast users in Illinois to make sure I don't come back.Oct 02 00:57
schestowitzwowOct 02 00:58
DaemonFCtor browser lets me come backOct 02 00:58
DaemonFCI have another account there now, but I can only use their forums over tor.Oct 02 00:58
MinceRlolOct 02 00:59
schestowitzmaybe tell them about that banOct 02 00:59
schestowitzsay you're someone from another place in IllinoisOct 02 01:00
schestowitzand then see them ban torOct 02 01:00
schestowitzplay their gameOct 02 01:00
schestowitzreport backOct 02 01:00
schestowitzThis is reinforcing the idea that they are hiding, afraid, unable to defend themselves from argumentOct 02 01:00
schestowitzso they shoot messengersOct 02 01:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AuthorJCStorms/status/782368946963918848Oct 02 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AuthorJCStorms: @schestowitz I doubt you have any solid evidence to back that up. I'll stay at bay and just hope for the best. Which is a total shit fall.Oct 02 01:01
schestowitzre IANAOct 02 01:01
MinceRtime to get a truly distributed replacement for DNSOct 02 01:11
MinceRlong overdue, reallyOct 02 01:11
DaemonFCschestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/55fy27/lenovo_forums_seems_to_have_possibly_banned_all/Oct 02 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Forums seems to have (possibly?) banned all Comcast users in the state of Illinois in order to try to silence the discussion of Linux on Yoga problems. [x-post from /r/lenovo] : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ptsro ]Oct 02 01:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/782372291191644161Oct 02 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Yes @schestowitz I understand. Was thinking people out there might appreciate some edukashiun. Must take a GCSE in English some time.Oct 02 01:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: excellent!Oct 02 01:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, I added at the end... I just wanted to let everyone know what happened in case they thought that people didn't want to talk about the Linux problems on Lenovo's Forums. In reality, people are steaming mad about this and their accounts are being banned and their threads deleted or modified.Oct 02 01:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: I'm promoting this nowOct 02 01:22
schestowitzhoping to drive some upvotesOct 02 01:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, quoted that last bit just nowOct 02 01:23
schestowitz2 am here almost, so might be hard to build momentum (early Sunday)Oct 02 01:23
schestowitzDaemonFC: OK, it's starting to get retweeted by large usersOct 02 01:23
DaemonFCThat was fast.Oct 02 01:23
schestowitzeven a GNU developerOct 02 01:23
schestowitznow about 10 votes I thinkOct 02 01:24
schestowitz40% suggested 5 votes or 10Oct 02 01:24
DaemonFCschestowitz, Hopefully the mods don't lock it again.Oct 02 01:25
DaemonFCI hate the mods on that subreddit.Oct 02 01:25
DaemonFCGet a discussion going. It gets locked. Oct 02 01:25
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DaemonFChttp://www.fool.com/p/60/www.motleyfool.idmanagedsolutions.com/charts/caps/thumbnail.chart?SYMBOL_US=LNVGY&TIME_SPAN=2Y&TYPE=mountain&RESOLUTION=5M&AXIS_SCALE=lin&HEIGHT=150&WIDTH=285&ID_BENCH1=28798185Oct 02 01:27
DaemonFCschestowitz, Red line is the S&P 500 performance over the last ttwo years. Blue line is Lenovo.Oct 02 01:27
DaemonFCGlad that we don't have any of their stock in John's retirement account.Oct 02 01:28
schestowitzwow, 38% upvotedOct 02 01:30
schestowitzso there are loads of votes alreadyOct 02 01:30
schestowitzdivisible by what?Oct 02 01:31
schestowitzmore than 20 for sureOct 02 01:31
schestowitzme: "The mistreatment of #gnu #linux by #lenovo isn't what's going to nearly kill them. It's their endless lies about it rather than apology+fix."Oct 02 01:32
schestowitzyou can see what I write, e.g. in TwitterOct 02 01:32
schestowitzor https://www.joindiaspora.com/people/da68a1f811b0f71eOct 02 01:32
schestowitz[01:34] <schestowitz> back up to 44%Oct 02 01:34
schestowitz[01:34] <schestowitz> we can make this stick like the last time at 200 with lots of commentsOct 02 01:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: bury squad likely there, maybe volunteers tooOct 02 01:34
schestowitzthose who think Microsoft is awesome and Lenovo is just a victimOct 02 01:35
DaemonFCYeah. I figured that this would happen.Oct 02 01:36
DaemonFCThe original post about it that got locked is still getting some up votes.Oct 02 01:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782354880035823616Oct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 For lessons on digital swaraj, Gandhi is an open sourceOct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DBv63is0B0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ​ For lessons on digital swaraj, Gandhi is an open source | Tux MachinesOct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782378834729598976Oct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Experimental Unity Vulkan Demos For LinuxOct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sjVVqcBfn1 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Experimental Unity Vulkan Demos For Linux - PhoronixOct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782379273747324928Oct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 The Humble Artifex Mundi Bundle has all its Hidden ObjectOct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 games with full Linux support https://t.co/KnWc098P0yOct 02 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (error)Oct 02 01:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-humble-artifex-mundi-bundle-has-all-its-hidden-object-games-with-full-linux-support.8182 )Oct 02 01:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782153565326409728Oct 02 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @hintjens @hackaday then watch the youtube video: https://t.co/u5yk6t9gL3Oct 02 01:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782220319876677632Oct 02 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @jwildeboer @hintjens you miss the last one :-)Oct 02 01:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782270667827908609Oct 02 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @travisgoodspeed @radareorg I was dreaming of a website where one could upload firmwares and run some automated analysis.Oct 02 01:50
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DaemonFChttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mozilla-Project-MortarOct 02 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla's Project Mortar Wants Pepper API Flash & PDFium In Firefox - PhoronixOct 02 02:08
DaemonFCFirefox is being killed by Chrome.Oct 02 02:08
DaemonFCGoogle can make Chrome do anything because they have an unlimited amount of money to throw into it.Oct 02 02:09
DaemonFCIncluding the money that they are no longer paying Mozilla for the search deal.Oct 02 02:09
DaemonFCI understand that the vast majority of Mozilla's income was from the Google deal, so they have been hurt badly.Oct 02 02:09
MinceRno, firefox is being killed by mozillaOct 02 02:12
DaemonFCAs far as I can tell, they haven't released a financial statement for 2015, so we won't know how much they brought in until they do.Oct 02 02:12
MinceRthey do one atrocious change after the otherOct 02 02:12
MinceRone wrong decision after the otherOct 02 02:12
MinceRwhat started with them giving in about video codecs culminated in them requiring pulseaudio on gnu/linuxOct 02 02:13
MinceRfor no good reasonOct 02 02:13
MinceRswitching to pale moon was a huge improvementOct 02 02:14
DaemonFCMozilla is probably running on steam (cash on hand from before the deal with Google expired).Oct 02 02:15
MinceRit would make more sense to let volunteers improve a browser than what they do now, spending leftover cash on making it worseOct 02 02:16
DaemonFCMinceR, Pale Moon has revenue.Oct 02 02:17
MinceRgoodOct 02 02:18
MinceRwhere do they get it?Oct 02 02:18
DaemonFCI think most of it comes from DuckDuckGo. They removed Google from the default providers.Oct 02 02:18
MinceRicOct 02 02:18
DaemonFCThey also have some affiliate links in the start page.Oct 02 02:18
DaemonFCLike if you click through to ebay and buy something, Pale Moon gets a small affiliate fee from the sale.Oct 02 02:19
MinceR:)Oct 02 02:19
DaemonFCSo it has revenue streams but nobody forces you to use them.Oct 02 02:20
DaemonFCMoonchild (the main developer) says that he's just trying to pay the bills and make a decent income from it.Oct 02 02:20
DaemonFCHe said that some people approached him about bundling crapware (like with OpenCandy) and he told them to fuck off.Oct 02 02:21
MinceR:)Oct 02 02:21
MinceRhe's doing it rightOct 02 02:21
DaemonFChttps://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2837Oct 02 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.palemoon.org | Will Pale Moon bundle other software in the installer? - Pale Moon forumOct 02 02:22
MinceRpale moon even has icons for every search engine in the search barOct 02 02:22
DaemonFCWill Pale Moon bundle other software in its installer?Oct 02 02:22
DaemonFCI regularly get e-mails from companies wanting to piggyback third-party software and "offers" in the Pale Moon installer. Let me be absolutely clear to everyone so they don't waste my time or their own:Oct 02 02:22
DaemonFCPale Moon will NEVER, ever, bundle third party software, commercial offers, search/other toolbars, or other additional software in its installer package.Oct 02 02:22
DaemonFCThis means:Oct 02 02:22
DaemonFCQuit e-mailing me already. I'm not interested. I don't care how smart you think your "program"/"system" is or how witty you think your name-pun of your domain is, or in what way your "offers" are better than those of competitors.Oct 02 02:22
MinceRi don't even know when firefox started forgetting most of themOct 02 02:22
DaemonFCIf you ever see a Pale Moon installers being distributed with additional offers, bundled software or ads in the installer, they are illegal, and in direct violation of the redistribution license for Pale Moon binaries (let me know so I can send a cease and desist letter). Note that this includes "download helpers/managers" and "stub installers" as well that offer additional software.Oct 02 02:22
DaemonFCPale Moon will not be a valid target for "monetization of free software" this way. Ever. I'd rather have the project explode in a million chunks before I let unspecified third party software catch a ride. I hate it with a passion myself when I download software and I get all sorts of software (let alone vapor- and junkware) that I didn't want in the first place. Or having to untick a dozen boxes to just get what I went to a manufacturer's Oct 02 02:23
DaemonFCwebsite for, specifically.Oct 02 02:23
DaemonFCMinceR, The bundled shitware problem has gotten so bad on Windows that you have to forget about using most download sites.Oct 02 02:24
DaemonFCEven some hardware drivers offer you unrelated software now.Oct 02 02:24
DaemonFCI have all Intel stuff in this laptop so they don't do that, but AMD and Nvidia's driver bundles install bloatware.Oct 02 02:25
DaemonFCLike Raptr.Oct 02 02:25
DaemonFC"AMD Gaming Evolved" (Raptr)Oct 02 02:25
MinceR:>Oct 02 02:25
DaemonFCIt sits in your system tray and takes RAM and complains that it can't find a path to drives that don't exist (WTF!?).Oct 02 02:26
DaemonFCIt says it "optimizes" your games. Whatever that means.Oct 02 02:26
DaemonFCMinceR, Crapware. Even if you get Windows on a "Signature" PC, it'll find a way to get in later.Oct 02 02:30
DaemonFCUnless you're extremely careful.Oct 02 02:30
DaemonFCMaybe if the Windows Store catches on, it will solve *that* problem, but I wouldn't count on it.Oct 02 02:30
DaemonFCDevelopers will probably offer MS part of the crapware bounty and then it'll all get whitelisted and ignored by Windows Defender.Oct 02 02:31
DaemonFCOr Microsoft will buy the advertising company that delivers ads to the crapware.Oct 02 02:32
DaemonFCThat's happened before.Oct 02 02:33
MinceRexactlyOct 02 02:33
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DaemonFCschestowitz, A flood of downvotes and a couple of comments deriding me.Oct 02 03:47
DaemonFCschestowitz, Now Matthew Garrett is retweeting Donald Trump.Oct 02 04:12
DaemonFCschestowitz, MinceR https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/781183351507984384Oct 02 04:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Anyone have any idea what this is? That's a USB *socket* and there are no other connectors https://t.co/7t7s1ay2yiOct 02 04:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Anyone have any idea what this is? That's a USB *socket* and there are no other connectors https://t.co/7t7s1ay2yiOct 02 04:48
DaemonFCMatthew Garrett unable to figure out what a car charger is....Oct 02 04:48
DaemonFC[–]fengshaun [score hidden] 16 minutes ago Oct 02 05:02
DaemonFCHave you verified that your ip actually changes when you renew your DHCP lease?Oct 02 05:02
DaemonFCpermalinkembedsavereportgive goldreplyOct 02 05:02
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK [S] 1 point a minute ago Oct 02 05:02
DaemonFCYes I have. Comcast usually gives me a new IP address every time I unplug my modem for a while, which I do each night. My IP address has changed several times and always blocked on Lenovo Forums.Oct 02 05:02
DaemonFCI don't know how many people they have potentially blocked just to try to keep me out, but it hasn't worked. It may inconvenience other customers that need help with their Lenovo PC but use Comcast and get the ban message.Oct 02 05:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782380327708856321Oct 02 05:34
TweetTuxMachines                 'Cossacks 3' officially due on Linux in the second halfOct 02 05:34
TweetTuxMachines                 of October https://t.co/zD5c2FiPtQ (error)Oct 02 05:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/cossacks-3-officially-due-on-linux-in-the-second-half-of-october.8228 )Oct 02 05:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782384267732979712Oct 02 05:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/vWcNJfPZm9Oct 02 05:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 05:34
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 02 05:34
DaemonFCApparently, Apple EFI checks to see if it's booting OS X and then powers off the Thunderbolt ports if it isn't. Linux contains workaround code for this.Oct 02 07:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/maxpolk/status/782416574191808512Oct 02 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maxpolk: @schestowitz @reddit Desperation for @lenovo getting *extremely* desperate after their conspiracy with @Microsoft to ban Linux went publicOct 02 08:29
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schestowitzDaemonFC: on the upside...Oct 02 08:56
schestowitzhundreds saw your headlineOct 02 08:56
schestowitzand dozens read the bodyOct 02 08:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: are you OK with me reposting it in techrights?Oct 02 08:56
DaemonFCYeahOct 02 08:56
schestowitzis there enough background in there?Oct 02 08:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: this can go on for monthsOct 02 08:59
schestowitzand ought toOct 02 08:59
DaemonFCI don't know where to take this next.Oct 02 08:59
schestowitzDaemonFC: can you add an intro sentence?Oct 02 08:59
DaemonFCLike?Oct 02 08:59
schestowitzTo explain it's you who started the whole thing and what it did?Oct 02 09:00
schestowitzthe existing text being the latestOct 02 09:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: so that it doens't start like "Oh, yeah..."Oct 02 09:01
schestowitzDaemonFC: just once concise sentenceOct 02 09:02
schestowitzexplain it's you who starrted itOct 02 09:02
schestowitzI started typing it upOct 02 09:02
schestowitzmaybe reddit is useless (or the sub)Oct 02 09:03
schestowitzso we can use techrights now to keep it talked aboutOct 02 09:03
schestowitzDaemonFC: leave ir with meOct 02 09:04
schestowitzI'll write an introOct 02 09:05
DaemonFCYeah, you're probably better at that than I am.Oct 02 09:05
DaemonFCReddit punishes posts that aren't boring.Oct 02 09:06
DaemonFCCats and stuff.Oct 02 09:06
DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft has their own subreddits.Oct 02 09:06
DaemonFCjanemsft is a mod in the Windows 10 subreddit.Oct 02 09:06
DaemonFCerrr, jenmsftOct 02 09:07
schestowitzok, hang onOct 02 09:09
schestowitzalmost thereOct 02 09:09
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/55as6r/is_my_feedback_actually_used/Oct 02 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is my feedback actually used? : windowsphoneOct 02 09:09
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 02 09:09
DaemonFCNew Windows 10 releases fix one thing and break something else (sometimes even the update itself won't install).Oct 02 09:09
DaemonFCIt feels like Microsoft is shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.Oct 02 09:09
DaemonFChttps://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/81659/microsoft-delivers-yet-another-broken-windows-10-updateOct 02 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Delivers Yet Another Broken Windows 10 Update - Thurrott.comOct 02 09:13
DaemonFC"Microsoft is pushing the idea that you should always patch your machine on the day the update is released as they often release security patches that fix vulnerabilities. But, until the company can get a handle on their quality control issues, such as the Anniversary update breaking millions of webcams, it feels like every time you run Windows update you are rolling the dice."Oct 02 09:14
DaemonFCOh good. Now you don't have to tape over the webcam if you're a high school student so your pervy principle won't use the RAT the school installed to your laptop to watch you naked in your bedroom. (Yeah, that actually happened a while ago.)Oct 02 09:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: fair to say it started in techrights irc?Oct 02 09:18
DaemonFCYeah.Oct 02 09:18
schestowitzok, waitOct 02 09:20
schestowitz5 minsOct 02 09:20
schestowitzfrom now on, write your rants in techrights tooOct 02 09:20
schestowitzthe corporate media is 'done' with itOct 02 09:20
schestowitzeven redditOct 02 09:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, The way many people respond in Reddit is odd.Oct 02 09:23
DaemonFCWhy would people be falling over themselves in defense of Microsoft there?Oct 02 09:23
DaemonFCMicrosoft hasn't done any favors for people who want to use Linux on their PC. uEFI has brought about literally thousands of problems all by itself even if the OEM isn't trying to lock Linux out.Oct 02 09:24
DaemonFCPCs are a lot more like Macs now. Bad firmware and all.Oct 02 09:24
DaemonFCI was excited for a while because I heard that uEFI would have an open source implementation.Oct 02 09:26
DaemonFCThen they based it on the open source implementation and signed it so only they could update it.Oct 02 09:26
cubexyzok, renewed cubeman.tk for another year... it's still freeOct 02 09:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/Oct 02 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | TechrightsOct 02 09:30
schestowitzforget about reddit for nowOct 02 09:30
schestowitzthe effort taken to prevent burial is hugeOct 02 09:30
schestowitzso use your own platformsOct 02 09:30
schestowitzthis kind of censorship in digg is why we needed boycottnovellOct 02 09:30
schestowitzat some stage people are not willing to let their platform be 'hijacked' by causesOct 02 09:31
schestowitzDaemonFC: not seen any coverage of it since FridayOct 02 09:31
schestowitzwhen I gave you a link about itOct 02 09:31
schestowitzand thsi coverage repeated the face-saving lieOct 02 09:31
DaemonFCYeah. I don't think that people are buying it.Oct 02 09:32
DaemonFCEven the people that try to make excuses for it probably wouldn't buy one themselves if they wanted to run Linux.Oct 02 09:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782486880113795072Oct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE: Mesa, Kernel, GNOME, KDE apps update in TumbleweedOct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rmrW42Ipej (news.opensuse.org)Oct 02 09:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE NewsOct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782498196345982976Oct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois inOct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga ProblemsOct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org)Oct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 09:33
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cubexyzI wouldn't have any problem getting a used Lenovo X60, T60 or X200 with librebootOct 02 09:37
cubexyzotherwise no lenovo for meOct 02 09:38
DaemonFCcubexyz, The hardware in this laptop is pretty decent. Windows 10 isn't.Oct 02 09:38
DaemonFCOne thing that really bugs me is that a lot of Windows apps are not meant to be used on HiDPI displays, so you get little butons and stuff and can't really use the app.Oct 02 09:39
DaemonFCPeazip is like that.Oct 02 09:39
cubexyzfor GM45 chipsets installing libreboot means the Intel management engine is goneOct 02 09:40
cubexyzthat's a big deal for meOct 02 09:40
DaemonFCIt can bring up the processor without IME?Oct 02 09:40
cubexyzyes, on certain modelsOct 02 09:41
cubexyzof course, some hardware just doesn't have management engine at allOct 02 09:43
cubexyzalso getting rid of that code gives you more room for other stuff for corebootOct 02 09:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pkrumins/status/782489296414601216Oct 02 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pkrumins: @schestowitz Tux celebrating Wine release. https://t.co/GbyXEM6oAjOct 02 09:45
cubexyzthere's a 5 megabits of ME codeOct 02 09:46
cubexyzthere's also a smaller version which is 3 megabitsOct 02 09:46
cubexyzcoreboot people now refer to Intel ME has "Panic level 9000+"Oct 02 09:47
cubexyzs/has/as/Oct 02 09:48
DaemonFCschestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701Oct 02 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo CommunityOct 02 09:50
cubexyzhere's a chart of the current ME situation:Oct 02 09:50
cubexyzhttps://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_EngineOct 02 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Intel Management Engine - corebootOct 02 09:50
cubexyzIntel ME is great for the NSA, bad for everyone elseOct 02 09:52
schestowitzyeahOct 02 09:56
schestowitzIntel Inside...Oct 02 09:56
schestowitzIntelligenceOct 02 09:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoftOct 02 09:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: "From a MS official site: " the Microsoft MVP Award is our way of saying Thanks!"" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfingOct 02 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - TechrightsOct 02 09:58
schestowitzDaemonFC: keep showing me links like thatOct 02 10:00
schestowitzI'll circulate best I can...Oct 02 10:00
cubexyzwhat you want for starters is a laptop with a socketed DIP or PLCC chipOct 02 10:00
cubexyzyou'll need a special tool for removing PLCC chipsOct 02 10:01
cubexyzbut you'll be save from bricking your laptopOct 02 10:02
cubexyzX200, X60, T60 etc merely has the _potential_ to be free of Intel MEOct 02 10:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/782505711720734720Oct 02 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7Oct 02 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7Oct 02 10:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/td-p/3439442Oct 02 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo CommunityOct 02 10:04
cubexyzGigabyte GA-6BXC has a socketed DIP chip for BIOSOct 02 10:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782501624556220416Oct 02 10:12
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois inOct 02 10:12
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga ProblemsOct 02 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org)Oct 02 10:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507065168236544Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Sabayon Bizarre But Useful https://t.co/YSwkTHTmk0Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (freedompenguin.com)Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Sabayon Bizarre But Useful - Freedom PenguinOct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507698994704384Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 "special Korean Edition of neon's Developer EditionOct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 tracking the stable branch of KDE's code repositories."Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HWLl66OYaq (blogs.kde.org)Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE neon Korean Developer Edition (... and future CJK Edition?) | blogs.kde.orgOct 02 10:13
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54j74w/can_someone_recommend_me_penetration_testing/Oct 02 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Can someone recommend me Penetration testing linux distros for slow Pc's? : linuxOct 02 10:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: I saw you in "Not the Lenovo Yoga!" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54uahw/linux_laptop_suggestions/Oct 02 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux laptop suggestions? : linuxOct 02 10:27
schestowitzI was trying to find whether someone mentioned LenovoOct 02 10:27
schestowitz"I bought a lenovo ideapad y700 earlier this year. It is a beautiful machine and runs Linux Mint perfectly. Excellent for gaming."Oct 02 10:27
DaemonFCschestowitz, It seems it's hit or miss. Probably since the MS deal is recent.Oct 02 10:28
DaemonFCThe first 900 didn't block Linux.Oct 02 10:28
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soj2/should_we_make_an_effort_to_make_hardware_stop/Oct 02 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should we make an effort to make hardware stop claiming to be "Linux Supported!" if it stopped working after a kernel released years ago? : linuxOct 02 10:33
schestowitzdid you see their MS patent deal?\Oct 02 10:33
schestowitzOEM deal?Oct 02 10:33
schestowitzand patent settlement?Oct 02 10:33
schestowitzMaybe only for Android, but it's a secret deal, so who knows...Oct 02 10:33
schestowitzI wrote about it in the summerOct 02 10:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782508631782817792Oct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Say not Goodbye, say #Sayonara https://t.co/3IFuZeysoVOct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ocsmag.com)Oct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Say not Goodbye, say Sayonara | OCS-MagOct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782513193369346048Oct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines                 The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and HowOct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines                 We’re Fixing it https://t.co/ghIqiU7BE9 (blogs.s-osg.org)Oct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.s-osg.org/problem-linux-kernel-documentation-fixing/ )Oct 02 10:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: "Whatever you do stay away from the Thinkpad X230, worst trackpad I've ever used." https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54jyuc/decent_linux_laptop_for_2016/ #lenovo ruins #ibm businessOct 02 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Decent Linux Laptop for 2016? : linuxOct 02 10:38
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 02 10:41
DaemonFCStay away from recent Lenovo Yogas. They don't let you install Linux at all. So unless wasting your money on a fast SSD that Linux can't even see and resorting to running it off a SD card or thumb drive is something you want to do, stay away from Lenovo. Lenovo no = Not good for Linux. If anything the problem will get worse.Oct 02 10:41
DaemonFCerr, meant to say Lenovo = not good for LinuxOct 02 10:42
DaemonFCchanged thatOct 02 10:42
DaemonFCWe should make sure to emphasize that so that people think Lenovo and then "I probably can't run Linux on that.".Oct 02 10:42
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/556rkk/is_it_safe_to_install_gnome_320_on_ubuntu_16041/Oct 02 10:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is it safe to install GNOME 3.20 on Ubuntu 16.04.1 using ppa? : linuxOct 02 10:50
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54p0gg/the_us_presidential_candidates_on_technology/Oct 02 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The U.S. presidential candidates on technology, privacy issues [including use of open source software in government] : linuxOct 02 10:51
schestowitz"Can someone find that video of Hillary Clinton tripping all over herself to figure out what Firefox and open source software were when she was SoS and a federal employee asked her why they had to use Internet Explorer?"Oct 02 10:51
schestowitzLOL at " tripping all over herself"Oct 02 10:52
schestowitzhttp://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/Oct 02 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ijr.com | I Protected Hillary Clinton In The Secret Service - Here's Why Her 'Fainting' Video Really Scares MeOct 02 10:52
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vfux/what_do_you_think_about_the_business_model_of/Oct 02 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What do you think about the business model of Parted Magic? : linuxOct 02 10:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, too soon?Oct 02 11:00
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z4UEr2ekOYOct 02 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hillary Clinton thinks saving money is complicated - YouTubeOct 02 11:02
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schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vdp8/lenovo_courts_devs_with_moto_z_source_code_release/Oct 02 11:03
schestowitz"I see the development kit is apparently released and the kernel sources is apparently released. Is the bootloader locked? Does this mean that I am able to actually compile the kernel myself and install it on the phone? Am I able to compile Android myself as well? What restrictions are there?"Oct 02 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Courts Devs With Moto Z Source Code Release : linuxOct 02 11:04
DaemonFCschestowitz, It's one of the most restrictive phones you can get, and it's a Verizon exclusive afaik.Oct 02 11:06
DaemonFCSo even if it was easy to mode, few people have it.Oct 02 11:06
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schestowitzhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12578204Oct 02 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | So while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in ge... | Hacker NewsOct 02 11:12
schestowitz"Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzSo while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in general.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzContext: I'm one of the original leads on LXQt, and I initiated the merge of Razor-qt and LXDE-Qt into LXQt.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzI've been using LXQt as my main desktop for several years now. I've kept up with what other desktops have been doing. I've been especially impressed by the efforts of the GNOME team, and especially disappointed with the clusterfuck KDE has become... but those are just details.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzI feel like the Linux desktop is dead, and one of the worst examples of open source software right now.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzAlmost nobody actually collaborates on anything. Everybody wants to do their own thing and it leads to developer fragmentation. Every project is undermanned. LXQt is especially undermanned right now. The Cinnamon guys, last I heard, want to switch to Qt but don't have the developers to do it and would end up being a LXQt clone.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitz"Oct 02 11:12
cubexyzcome on, linux is definitely not deadOct 02 11:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/premierleague/status/782525961799598080Oct 02 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7Oct 02 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7Oct 02 11:25
schestowitzsite down? https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtmlOct 02 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtml )Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782521042388516865Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 "Welcome to the 36th installation of This Week in Solus."Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GdQBkAD01N (solus-project.com)Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #36 | SolusOct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782523195349954561Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 What’s New in Elementary OS 0.4 LokiOct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6LlMIFEKOT (linuxscoop.com)Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | What's New in Elementary OS 0.4 Loki - Linux ScoopOct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782524963865653248Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Why kernel development still uses emailOct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JRKkuuxSze (lwn.net)Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why kernel development still uses email [LWN.net]Oct 02 11:28
cubexyzoh man that's brutal... they tried to OCR frakturOct 02 11:31
cubexyzjust buy the english translation :-POct 02 11:32
schestowitzhttps://camo.githubusercontent.com/b07bd2390cdd348e6404e46a97e3f35d2be5c25e/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f7444314f4251332e706e67Oct 02 11:46
schestowitzhttp://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-signature-pc-program-allegedly-blocks-installation-of-linux-or-does-itOct 02 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? | HotHardwareOct 02 11:48
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54e5w1/microsoft_signature_pc_program_allegedly_blocks/Oct 02 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? : linuxOct 02 11:48
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpgOct 02 12:12
*TweetTuxMachines @jiem1978 favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...'Oct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782528689179426816Oct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 "competing projects create and spread FUD about LinuxOct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Mint in an effort to promote their own distribution."Oct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MJXNiXnERO (segfault.linuxmint.com)Oct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segfault.linuxmint.com | Addressing FUD ← SegfaultOct 02 12:13
cubexyzoh dear...Oct 02 12:21
cubexyzhttps://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/10/01/2155209/multiple-linux-distributions-affected-by-crippling-bug-in-systemdOct 02 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Multiple Linux Distributions Affected By Crippling Bug In Systemd - SlashdotOct 02 12:21
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpgOct 02 12:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543065571393537Oct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives https://t.co/WXp7PRgY2COct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543067450441730Oct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/iO4C5DPSJGOct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543069212139520Oct 02 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uzwoydirQwOct 02 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:30
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543071225389056Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/8dCqMvb47IOct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543072433352704Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/wIkEXy5q11Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543132567146496Oct 02 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 2/10/2016:  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXELOct 02 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016:Oct 02 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEOct 02 12:38
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916536Oct 02 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The media no longer seems to be interested in us showing it that #lenovo lied. I guess they see no business model/gain in it.Like #superfishOct 02 12:41
cubexyznot to often I see Plan 9 advocacyOct 02 12:41
cubexyzhonestly though it's simpler just to use slackOct 02 12:53
cubexyzIf I'm doing the programming you can be sure I'm going to test on openbsd, slackware, FC1, and maybe Fedora 14Oct 02 12:59
cubexyzI stopped using Fedora after version 14Oct 02 12:59
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/mNxDJU5Oct 02 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This site login - ImgurOct 02 14:09
XRevan86MinceR: That's an interesting way of exploit protection.Oct 02 14:10
MinceRindeedOct 02 14:11
XRevan86"You're using eval? You should think of security: forbid quotation mark usage."Oct 02 14:11
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/MSF89TT.gifvOct 02 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLEOct 02 14:32
cubexyzummmOct 02 14:37
cubexyzyeah the word shell definitely could be part of an email addressOct 02 14:38
cubexyzlol at the tetris picOct 02 14:40
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/jJ80AgJ.jpgOct 02 15:11
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/aE42F1B.pngOct 02 15:20
XRevan86MinceR: So was faith of most of Russians. But then Yeltsin fixed it by making capitalism worse than Gorbachov's reforms.Oct 02 15:26
MinceRthat is, in russiaOct 02 15:28
MinceRhe couldn't make it worse anywhere elseOct 02 15:28
XRevan86I think Yeltsin is the reason why Russian population in general doesn't like regime changes.Oct 02 15:29
MinceRbut putler willOct 02 15:29
XRevan86They know on their skin it can get much worse.Oct 02 15:29
XRevan86Because even Gorbachov wasn't that bad as what regime change delivered.Oct 02 15:30
XRevan86> he couldn't make it worse anywhere elseOct 02 15:32
XRevan86MinceR: That's a weird thought.Oct 02 15:33
MinceRwhy would it be?Oct 02 15:33
XRevan86It's very hard to make worse something that was already near bottom.Oct 02 15:33
MinceRglobal nuclear winter will make capitalism worseOct 02 15:33
MinceRas in, we all starve to deathOct 02 15:33
MinceRplants die without lightOct 02 15:33
MinceRanything that eats plants dies without foodOct 02 15:33
XRevan86People genuinely thought any change could go only up because below was only the floor.Oct 02 15:33
MinceRthey'll find out that it can indeed get worseOct 02 15:34
MinceRand maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worseOct 02 15:34
XRevan86MinceR: I mean, realisticly worse.Oct 02 15:34
XRevan86not nuclear worseOct 02 15:34
MinceRthat's quite realisticOct 02 15:34
XRevan86> and maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worseOct 02 15:35
XRevan86Humans are jerks.Oct 02 15:35
MinceRindeedOct 02 15:35
XRevan86Don't blame the 1%, blame the 100%.Oct 02 15:35
XRevan86Damn, I hope that won't catch on.Oct 02 15:35
MinceR:>Oct 02 15:38
MinceRhttp://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/09/30/mads-caption-contest-winnerOct 02 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | MAD’s Caption Contest Winner! | Mad MagazineOct 02 15:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782545040946192384Oct 02 15:48
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 2/10/2016:  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXELOct 02 15:48
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016:Oct 02 15:48
TweetTuxMachines                  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEOct 02 15:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | TechrightsOct 02 15:48
MinceRhttp://wandpcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/WandP49site.pngOct 02 15:51
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cubexyzoh boy, someone at google books got CPE Bach and Johann Sebastian Bach mixed upOct 02 16:31
MinceR:)Oct 02 16:32
cubexyzrather disappointingOct 02 16:32
cubexyzCarl was the 2nd son of Johann Sebastian in case anyone was wonderingOct 02 16:38
cubexyz1714 to 1788Oct 02 16:39
MinceRhttp://www.sciencealert.com/80-of-the-data-in-chinese-clinical-trial-is-fabricatedOct 02 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-80% of data in Chinese clinical trials have been fabricated - ScienceAlertOct 02 16:40
cubexyzI was a bit taken aback over the price of the NovenaOct 02 16:42
cubexyz$500 for just the motherboardOct 02 16:42
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Z1h6NjNOct 02 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Great sorting job Outlook for Mac - very useful - ImgurOct 02 16:42
MinceRtoo bad the novena case is not conducive for use in lapOct 02 16:42
MinceRthe same issue exists with most "2 in 1"sOct 02 16:43
cubexyzwhat's the problem with it?Oct 02 16:43
cubexyzI suppose you mean the monitor being turned around the other way?Oct 02 16:43
MinceRthere's no place where you can put the keyboard that is connected to the display so you can hold the whole thing by holding on to the keyboard/wristpadOct 02 16:44
MinceRyeahOct 02 16:44
MinceRso either the computer or the keyboard will fall off your lapOct 02 16:44
schestowitzJuve translation is half done.Oct 02 16:44
schestowitzto be posted in techrights soon, re EPO liesOct 02 16:44
cubexyzI can't think of anything decent laptop-wise other than chromebooks Oct 02 16:45
cubexyzI guess X200 with libreboot would be OKOct 02 16:46
MinceRthinkpads still seem to be fine, aside from the usual issues like intel ME and m$ taxOct 02 16:46
cubexyzwell you'd most likely be looking at a used one for X200Oct 02 16:47
MinceRi mostly looked at the x260Oct 02 16:48
MinceRcomes with an intel gpu that's more powerful than any gpu i ever hadOct 02 16:48
MinceRand finally they made them black againOct 02 16:49
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cubexyzthe old R30's weren't very repairable :-/Oct 02 16:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782607511815847936Oct 02 16:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNWOct 02 16:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 16:50
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 02 16:50
MinceRwell, the R series was the old cheapness-oriented series, wasn't it?Oct 02 16:50
cubexyzcould beOct 02 16:50
cubexyzthat x260 is going to generate a lot of heatOct 02 16:51
MinceRi didn't have issues with cooling before, except when there was accumulated dust in my x220itOct 02 16:52
cubexyzbut it looks pretty decent otherwise... if you ignore the win10 preloaded Oct 02 16:52
MinceRi cleaned it out and the issue went awayOct 02 16:52
MinceRwell, yeahOct 02 16:52
MinceRaccording to   https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X260   it still supports legacy bootOct 02 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.freebsd.org | Laptops/Thinkpad_X260 - FreeBSD WikiOct 02 16:52
cubexyzthat's a big plusOct 02 16:53
MinceRindeedOct 02 16:53
MinceRas far as i'm concerned, a requirement :>Oct 02 16:53
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144Oct 02 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/Oct 02 16:54
schestowitz"Really. I was thinking of getting a Lenovo machine. Well I better stay with Dell, they make great machines."Oct 02 16:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW'Oct 02 16:54
cubexyzI can report the HP chromebook 14 with Tegra K1 doesn't get hot at allOct 02 16:54
MinceRlol, dHellOct 02 16:54
schestowitzAcer and ASUS are OK also, maybe HPOct 02 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | TechrightsOct 02 16:54
cubexyzand it's fanless... had it in my lap for hoursOct 02 16:54
MinceRschestowitz had complaints about an hp chromebookOct 02 16:54
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139Oct 02 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpgOct 02 16:54
MinceR(the keyboard, specifically)Oct 02 16:54
schestowitzMinceR: yesOct 02 16:54
schestowitzwe returned itOct 02 16:54
schestowitzswapped for AcerOct 02 16:54
cubexyzit's tolerable :)Oct 02 16:54
MinceR:)Oct 02 16:54
schestowitzcubexyz: ^ your image agoOct 02 16:55
schestowitz*aboveOct 02 16:55
cubexyznot the greatest, I admitOct 02 16:55
MinceRtoo bad hp's website is a total pain in the ass to useOct 02 16:55
schestowitz"Ah, Okay."Oct 02 16:55
schestowitz"Why are people complaining about the change?"Oct 02 16:55
schestowitz"http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemd"Oct 02 16:55
MinceRso i have no idea what i'd buy if i were to buy hpOct 02 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for youOct 02 16:55
cubexyzI don't even really like talking to HPOct 02 16:55
cubexyzI'm sure they don't enjoy talking to me much eitherOct 02 16:55
MinceR:>Oct 02 16:55
cubexyzbut I still use two of their computers and they're not badOct 02 16:56
MinceRit's nice to have more data pointsOct 02 16:57
cubexyzhmmm, I'll have to look at the acer with Tegra K1Oct 02 16:58
cubexyzalmost everything comes with win10Oct 02 17:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RichardBaeck/status/782612592657330178Oct 02 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardBaeck: RT @schestowitz #Bees added to US endangered species list for the first time https://t.co/kXAWhF9EXR it's startingOct 02 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://gnusocial.de/url/3144843 )Oct 02 17:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AnarchistDalek/status/782613687257313280Oct 02 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnarchistDalek: 🤔 https://t.co/QyvXXFnMUiOct 02 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Read this: https://t.co/OEyumMGvUQ And then this: https://t.co/FEGKzKqOOB Some people pretend better https://t.co/dZAc866OIeOct 02 17:13
cubexyzlenovo has got 325 thumbs down so far :)Oct 02 17:39
schestowitzwhere?Oct 02 17:45
cubexyzjust the pic being downloaded 325 timesOct 02 17:45
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/god-the-action-figure.jpgOct 02 17:46
cubexyzwith AK-47? Oct 02 17:46
XRevan86cubexyz: Looks like a jediOct 02 17:47
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XRevan86> with kalashnikov AK-47Oct 02 17:49
XRevan86Tautology.Oct 02 17:49
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/O5aX0rCOct 02 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discard submission? Cancel uploads? I don't know what to do, Imgur... - ImgurOct 02 18:16
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7912310Oct 02 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lenovo is lying about #microsoft #linux and now about #layoffs http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.htm just as it lied about #superfish repeatedlyOct 02 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft At Fault? : Tech : GamenguideOct 02 18:58
schestowitz"So they’ve been telling lies by making out it was a Linux Kernel problem."Oct 02 18:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139Oct 02 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpgOct 02 18:59
schestowitz"Although I don’t use Debian, I did not understand why they made this move considering their philosophy."Oct 02 18:59
schestowitz"Quiero llorar."Oct 02 18:59
schestowitz"What? The choice of systemd over the previous system (what was the name of the previus system)??"Oct 02 18:59
schestowitz"Prior to systemD was sysVInit."Oct 02 18:59
schestowitz"Ah, Okay."Oct 02 19:00
schestowitz"Why are people complaining about the change?"Oct 02 19:00
schestowitzhttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemdOct 02 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for you [ http://ur1.ca/ptxau ]Oct 02 19:00
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8vOct 02 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google wasn't much help with physics homework - ImgurOct 02 19:03
MinceRhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemdOct 02 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Arguments against systemd - Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jwtd5 ]Oct 02 19:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916622Oct 02 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoftOct 02 19:07
schestowitz"Oct 02 19:07
schestowitzHe’s on the wrong side. Generous or not.Oct 02 19:07
schestowitzMaybe there were generous Nazis too…but still it’s on the wrong side.Oct 02 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo CommunityOct 02 19:07
schestowitz"Oct 02 19:07
schestowitzMicrosoft MVPs compared to Nazis... :/ :-SOct 02 19:07
MinceRnazis were pretty evilOct 02 19:09
MinceRstill areOct 02 19:09
cubexyzhopefully we can guilt Lenovo into fixing their biosOct 02 19:10
MinceRand their customer serviceOct 02 19:13
MinceRand their attitudeOct 02 19:13
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cubexyzhelping people use windows isn't really helping themOct 02 19:33
cubexyzeach generation will get more and more dependent on Microsoft and less and less able to do things for themselvesOct 02 19:34
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cubexyzI remember one guy putting a new version of windows on their computer...Oct 02 19:36
cubexyzhe couldn't use his scanner or his printer afterwardsOct 02 19:36
cubexyzhe went out and bought a new printer and new scanner... duh!Oct 02 19:37
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schestowitz[19:03] <MinceR> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8vOct 02 19:45
schestowitzwrong answer.Oct 02 19:45
schestowitzmaybe 'ai' bs failureOct 02 19:45
MinceR:>Oct 02 19:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/782609646133518336Oct 02 19:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/782652057161461760Oct 02 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @AntiSoftwarePat @zoobab @schestowitz Have you guys seen Australia's Productivity Commission's IP report? Slams Software PatentsOct 02 19:46
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MinceRhttps://65.media.tumblr.com/363171b17c048cb26acbb9c9ea9f0175/tumblr_odk9o0nqMN1s02vreo1_250.gifOct 02 20:29
cubexyzthe local computer store is selling Gigabyte 5010 no OS computersOct 02 20:38
cubexyzspam alert for tuxmachinesOct 02 20:58
cubexyzfootball streaming linksOct 02 20:58
cubexyzAmerican Football I think :)Oct 02 20:59
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHAOct 02 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Banach–Tarski Paradox - YouTubeOct 02 21:18
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/50V1VAB.jpgOct 02 21:28
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DaemonFCschestowitz, They just approved a couple of posts to the ISK2 topic.Oct 02 21:34
DaemonFCI know they're blocking some because one of my posts didn't appear and I've heard from someone else that it took 3 days before theirs did.Oct 02 21:34
DaemonFChttps://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6Oct 02 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6 )Oct 02 21:43
DaemonFCApparently, the 900S is worse. You can't even dump the BIOS at all according to one person on this forum.Oct 02 21:43
DaemonFCIt seems that annoying "Get Windows 10" app was hidden in a critical security update to Internet Explorer.Oct 02 21:45
DaemonFCInteresting.Oct 02 21:45
MinceRhttp://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/151093453030/gdbOct 02 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | gdb - DevOps ReactionsOct 02 22:07
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brendynIs this legit, https://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.html ?Oct 02 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkerer [ http://ur1.ca/ptyq6 ]Oct 02 22:22
MinceRdunno, i pretty much reflexively close that pageOct 02 22:24
MinceRa clean fork would be welcomeOct 02 22:26
MinceRi guess it will be inevitable anyway if noscript updates to fit the chrome-ish API in the newer, shittier failfoxOct 02 22:39
DaemonFCMinceR, Matthew Garrett is retweeting Donald Trump.Oct 02 22:42
MinceRlolOct 02 22:42
DaemonFCI think that Garrett is British. They seem to have no shortage of Trump clones over there.Oct 02 22:42
MinceRindeedOct 02 22:42
MinceRre the second sentenceOct 02 22:42
MinceRdunno about the firstOct 02 22:43
DaemonFCNigel Farage, Boris Johnson....Oct 02 22:43
DaemonFCAt least Garrett can stay over there and screw his own country.Oct 02 22:43
MinceRlooks like we're all screwedOct 02 22:43
DaemonFCYeah, most "Western Democracies" are showing that they don't deserve democracy much more than the Islamic Republics do. :POct 02 22:44
DaemonFCTruly sad. I mean, you'd expect what happens when you give a bunch of Muslims a democracy...Oct 02 22:45
DaemonFCWe get some of the ones that are trying to flee what the others are doing to them.Oct 02 22:45
DaemonFCAnd we get some of the ones that are hardliners too. They come over here and tell us how much they hate us.Oct 02 22:46
MinceRindeedOct 02 22:46
MinceRand the savages in the west are coming out of the woodworkOct 02 22:46
MinceRfor brexit, Golden Dawnald, and for other callsOct 02 22:46
DaemonFCMinceR, It's scary how close Trump is in the polls.Oct 02 22:47
DaemonFCThe fact that he *could* win. The fact that someone like him could come back in 4-8 years and be that close even if he doesn't.Oct 02 22:48
DaemonFCThe only thing that we can really hope for is that demographic shift happens. Clinton gets in and we get business as usual again while the people who like Trump fade a little bit more. (They're dying off but they're dangerous because they know they're fading and so nearly all of them are going to vote.)Oct 02 22:49
DaemonFCThat's what we have going on. He's whipping the vote.Oct 02 22:50
MinceRmaybe we'll find a way to only kill off humans, leaving the rest of the biosphere intactOct 02 22:50
DaemonFCMeanwhile, the other side is lukewarm about Hillary so even though we theoretically outnumber Trump's supporters, the turnout will be lower.Oct 02 22:50
DaemonFCIf it wasn't for Republican voters being older and more of them dying off then Trump would probably win this year.Oct 02 22:51
DaemonFCIf we had an exact repeat of the 2012 election (turnout, demographics, etc.) Obama would have a net total of about 453,000 more votes.Oct 02 22:53
DaemonFCWell, Clinton I mean.Oct 02 22:53
DaemonFCBut she's not making people feel good about voting for her. Her entire campaign is "I'm not Trump.".Oct 02 22:53
MinceRhm, NotTrump sounds pretty goodOct 02 22:54
DaemonFCWould the extra die off on the Republican side help by itself?Oct 02 22:54
DaemonFCDepends on where they die.Oct 02 22:54
DaemonFCThe Electoral College means that if most of them die in, say, Texas, that doesn't really help Clinton.Oct 02 22:55
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/1sDkHgZOct 02 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-420 install it - ImgurOct 02 22:55
DaemonFCIf more of them die in states like Ohio or North Carolina, it could tip the balance.Oct 02 22:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782652807757258752Oct 02 22:59
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TweetTuxMachines                 Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, ShipsOct 02 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 https://t.co/e6FdwTYgTyOct 02 23:00
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/NG3VXOct 02 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- TV thinks Will Smith is Japanese? ウィル・スミス - Album on ImgurOct 02 23:19
DaemonFCI just read Matthew Garrett's response to the Lenovo thing in full.Oct 02 23:24
DaemonFC"The number of people who buy these laptops to run anything but Windows is miniscule[...]" So why increase your support costs?Oct 02 23:24
DaemonFCHmmm. Seems to me that about 2% would eventually install Linux (conservative estimate). If they sell for $1300-$1,500 apiece and people know not to buy them now, that means that for every 1,000 laptops that they would have sold, they now sell 20 fewer units, and those sales go to a competitor.Oct 02 23:26
DaemonFCIf they sell a million laptops, then they lose 20,000 sales to a competitor.Oct 02 23:27
DaemonFCIt might not sound like much, but it is. PC margins are thin because there are a lot of PC OEMs that make computers that are similar and "good enough". Chances are their profit margin is only 3-5%, maybe.Oct 02 23:28
DaemonFCI hear that's the norm in PC sales, and that's for units with crapware, but I'm sure that Lenovo is either getting rebates for participating in Signature or just passed along the cost of not bundling the crapware to me.Oct 02 23:29
DaemonFCRegardless, PC sales have been in decline for years.Oct 02 23:31
DaemonFCLenovo suffered a 4.2% year over year decline in Q4 2015 vs Q4 2014.Oct 02 23:31
DaemonFCDo they really want to go back and say they declined more this quarter? Looks that way.Oct 02 23:31
DaemonFCThey could have released a BIOS patch for Linux users immediately, but they chose to give their customers the middle finger and ride this thing into the ground instead.Oct 02 23:32
DaemonFCI'm sure Dell or HP will appreciate the new customers.Oct 02 23:32
DaemonFCI would have bought an HP Spectre or a Dell XPS had I known.Oct 02 23:32
MinceRdHell doesn't appreciate customers, only their moneyOct 02 23:33
DaemonFCMinceR, They responded by re-enabling the AHCI option instead of lying to their customers.Oct 02 23:34
DaemonFCThat's better than what Lenovo did.Oct 02 23:34
cubexyzit isOct 02 23:34
DaemonFCIt seems like every time I buy a computer, an OEM has done something to fuck up Linux.Oct 02 23:34
DaemonFCUsually something stupid. Usually something I've never seen them do before.Oct 02 23:35
MinceRthey responded to me by claiming the keyboard is not under warranty, and by claiming they have no idea when they'll have replacement partsOct 02 23:35
MinceRalso by replacing the faulty GPU with another faulty GPUOct 02 23:35
MinceRso fuck dHellOct 02 23:35
DaemonFCSo a pattern emerges. And if you approach it as an isolated incident, people say "It was just an innocent mistake.".Oct 02 23:35
DaemonFCBut if they all do it nearly every time they release something, I believe there are....other resons.Oct 02 23:35
DaemonFCShame on Matthew Garrett for excusing this. He's made more blog posts than I can count on how OEMs try to detect Linux and then hand it a shitty configuration.Oct 02 23:36
DaemonFCHe even admitted in one of them that they detect Linux by which version of ACPI it says it supports and then hand it off to the kernel without setting up the audio chipset or telling it there are the wrong number of function keys.Oct 02 23:37
DaemonFCSo he had to patch it to say the same thing Windows returns (2 instead of 5) so that the firmware wouldn't fuck up the configuration before handing off to Linux.Oct 02 23:38
DaemonFCHe doesn't see a problem with that? Oct 02 23:38
DaemonFCOr if he does he blames the vendor.Oct 02 23:38
DaemonFChttps://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/34542.htmlOct 02 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Vendors continue to break thingsOct 02 23:40
DaemonFCThere's the post if anyone is interested.Oct 02 23:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782701649684856832Oct 02 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros withOct 02 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Various Improvements https://t.co/3jpeQ7mFiuOct 02 23:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with Various Improvements | Tux MachinesOct 02 23:52
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cubexyzit's all horse-bleepOct 03 00:10
cubexyzthere's secret stuff in the firmware and you can dance around that all day but in the end you don't know what's going onOct 03 00:11
cubexyzand the newer hardware is much harder to understand than the older stuffOct 03 00:12
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/intel-me-secrets.pdfOct 03 00:16
cubexyzintel's running ThreadX in thereOct 03 00:23
cubexyzit can lock out memory from the host CPUOct 03 00:25
cubexyzmaybe I can visually inspect the board and know if it's got vpro or notOct 03 00:30
cubexyzif it's baked into the CPU (which I suspect it is) then I need a list of CPUs to avoidOct 03 00:31
DaemonFCcubexyz, Wikipedia says it's in the motherboard, but I suspect that it will be in the CPU eventually if it isn't already.Oct 03 00:33
DaemonFCThey've been moving things away from the motherboard and into the CPU. Including the integrated graphics. It's why motherboards are so cheap now.Oct 03 00:34
cubexyzIntel® DH82B85 PCH, no vPro but still has MEOct 03 00:36
cubexyzand they are already up to ME 9.0Oct 03 00:37
DaemonFCcubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware.Oct 03 00:39
cubexyzthere's something called the MEBxOct 03 00:39
cubexyzthe Management Engine BIOS eXtensionOct 03 00:39
DaemonFCSome Intel CPUs seem to be designed to lock up mysteriously after half an hour if the Management Engine isn't working for some reason.Oct 03 00:40
DaemonFCThen you have to make sure the firmware loads or your PC freezes up.Oct 03 00:40
MinceRwhat do chromebooks do about this?Oct 03 00:41
DaemonFCProbably load the ME, MinceR Oct 03 00:41
DaemonFCBut some Chromebooks are ditching Intel.Oct 03 00:41
MinceRafaik they don't load itOct 03 00:42
cubexyzyou can build your own custom BIOS on chromebooksOct 03 00:42
DaemonFCThe Acers seem to be going with ARM now.Oct 03 00:42
MinceR03 013929 < DaemonFC> cubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware.Oct 03 00:42
MinceRthe whole point of "intel boot guard" was to lock alternative firmware (like coreboot and libreboot) out of the marketOct 03 00:42
MinceRit was a very microsoftian moveOct 03 00:42
cubexyzyou can hack on the chromebooks, so I'm not worried about thoseOct 03 00:42
cubexyzI have all that code Oct 03 00:43
DaemonFCMinceR, Eventually it will detect BIOS mods that you flashed in with an external flasher and refuse to boot.Oct 03 00:43
cubexyzif there's anything nasty in there I'll know about itOct 03 00:43
DaemonFCI don't think they're there yet because replacement BIOSes seem to work on the Yoga 900 ISK2 with Skylake.Oct 03 00:43
DaemonFCBut it won't let you flash it in without aa flasher unless there's a signature from Insyde or Lenovo on the ROM.Oct 03 00:44
cubexyzX200 with libreboot is pretty safeOct 03 00:44
DaemonFCIt doesn't seem to use checksum verification because the modded ROM that the guy on Lenovo Forums used wouldn't have matched the ROM that he pulled.Oct 03 00:45
DaemonFCThe only thing the people on the bios-mods forum seem to have done is remove code hiding some BIOS menus that are present but hidden by Lenovo.Oct 03 00:45
DaemonFC"bownairo" said he'd be looking into a way to fool the system into letting you flash without an external flasher.Oct 03 00:46
MinceRit seems to me that if IT is to survive at all, the free software/hardware community will have to take the whole stack in our own handsOct 03 00:46
DaemonFCIf that happens, users can fix their system themselves without a patch from Lenovo.Oct 03 00:46
MinceRwe'll have to figure out how to make cpus and computers from scratchOct 03 00:46
cubexyzwell, the ultimate hack would be your own FPGAOct 03 00:46
MinceRintel and all the others will only try to shit on everything we doOct 03 00:46
MinceRwe'll also need free fpga toolsOct 03 00:46
DaemonFCMinceR, Richard Stallman's solution is probably the easiest.Oct 03 00:47
DaemonFCBuy a laptop from China that uses an ARM platform and was made to run Linux.Oct 03 00:47
DaemonFCIf there was some way to set up a reliable supply chain for those, I'm sure that someone could have a somewhat profitable business selling them to people who want to get away from the Wintel PC and all of the horrible things it does to Linux, totally by accident of course. :POct 03 00:48
MinceRARM isn't very friendly either, afaikOct 03 00:49
DaemonFCMinceR, Depends on who is making them.Oct 03 00:49
MinceRfor every SoC you have to figure out how you can initialize the hw, how you can boot your code, etc.Oct 03 00:49
DaemonFCIt's just an ISA that you can license.Oct 03 00:49
DaemonFCAnyone who can come up with the licensing money can make ARM CPUs.Oct 03 00:49
MinceRand for most SoC makers/designers we are such a tiny part of the market that they just don't care about us at allOct 03 00:49
MinceRsee how far CubieBoard got with their stuffOct 03 00:50
DaemonFCMinceR, Intel's mobile platforms are essentially SoC now.Oct 03 00:50
DaemonFCThey have the controllers for damned near everything in the CPU package.Oct 03 00:50
cubexyzwell IBM Thinkpad 700 is 1992.. I figure that's old enough :)Oct 03 00:50
DaemonFCThat's why it's so hard to get power management right. You used to be able to do power management by component. If you got most of it down, the rest didn't really matter that much.Oct 03 00:50
DaemonFCPutting the SATA controller in low poer mode maybe saved you half a watt.Oct 03 00:51
DaemonFCNow if you can't get that right, the whole system breaks down and you're idling at twice the power consumption you should be at.Oct 03 00:51
DaemonFC*powerOct 03 00:51
DaemonFCAnd if you figure that out, there's half a dozen things that you also need to figure out or you're back in the same boat.Oct 03 00:52
DaemonFCSo I don't expect that Linux will ever have the power management Windows does for Skylake.Oct 03 00:53
MinceRthat depends on whether m$'s final gambits succeed or notOct 03 00:53
DaemonFCIt'll improve, like it has been, but it will reach a point where all of the easier things have been done and people lose interest.Oct 03 00:53
MinceRif they succeed, it's possible that it won't even be legal to run anything but the one government-approved thin client OS anymoreOct 03 00:53
MinceRif they fail, they'll go full patent troll and there won't be a "windows" anymoreOct 03 00:53
DaemonFCWhat really pisses me off to no end is that MS has released probably thousands of patches to individual components of Windows 10 by now, and saying each time that it makes Windows more reliable.Oct 03 00:54
DaemonFCSo why am I still hitting most of the same bugs that were in the first release?Oct 03 00:54
DaemonFCPeople know that and they know that even if the update installs and their machine comes back up that it won't be more reliable. Oct 03 00:55
DaemonFCSo they've taken to disabling the Windows Update service so they don't have a bad update that screws up their data.Oct 03 00:55
DaemonFCThat's not good either.Oct 03 00:55
cubexyzyou can disable AMT control on some intel motherboardsOct 03 00:59
cubexyznow who knows if it can be reactivatedOct 03 00:59
cubexyzbut if you compile your own coreboot BIOS on a chrome-whatever, I feel that is your best betOct 03 01:00
cubexyzor (not ideal) you could just run one old machine Oct 03 01:01
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHCHEykUxP4Oct 03 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spooky Coincidences? - YouTubeOct 03 01:14
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XRevan86MinceR: I suspect where this video is going and I like to see that message covered.Oct 03 01:18
MinceR:)Oct 03 01:18
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55fxyk/lenovo_forums_seems_to_have_possibly_banned_all/Oct 03 01:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Forums seems to have (possibly?) banned all Comcast users in the state of Illinois in order to try to silence the discussion of Linux on Yoga problems. : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/ptzd9 ]Oct 03 01:19
DaemonFC[–]fringewanderer 1 point an hour ago Oct 03 01:19
DaemonFCWhen you say "no Linux support", do you mean providing and supporting drivers for user Linux installations? If so which hardware components?Oct 03 01:19
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DaemonFC[–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 19 minutes ago Oct 03 01:19
DaemonFCThey wrote BIOS code to hide and write protect the fake "RAID" mode that these damned things ship with in order to fool Windows into loading a different driver with a better power management policy.Oct 03 01:19
DaemonFCSo now you can't install Linux to the SSD, all because they removed the compatible AHCI mode from the BIOS.Oct 03 01:19
DaemonFCProbably the most realistic solution, if anyone ever implements it, will be to have the Linux kernel reset the hardware and put it in AHCI mode on every boot. Then we won't need help from Lenovo or a driver for something that gains us...literally nothing even if someone does write one. :POct 03 01:19
DaemonFCEither way, Lenovo's response is that they broke it, they don't care, and just run Windows 10 and shut up. So don't expect a BIOS patch from them, ever.Oct 03 01:19
DaemonFCDell and some other OEMs shipped like this but them offered a BIOS patch for their customers. Lenovo just doesn't care.Oct 03 01:19
DaemonFCBuy a computer from another company, and make sure they haven't done anything like this first.Oct 03 01:20
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DaemonFC[–]fringewanderer 1 point 5 minutes ago Oct 03 01:20
DaemonFCWhat would be the best-case scenario for current laptop owners? New firmware release that fixes AHCI mode?Oct 03 01:20
DaemonFCBased on what I'm hearing here I guess I'd sum it up as being a cocktail of issues starting with the "bandaid" BIOS fix, then adding passive and poor customer support and topping it all off with forum admins/mods being in the awkward and unempowered position of having no good channels to CS/dev units while also having free reign to handle their own forum situation any way they want.Oct 03 01:20
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DaemonFC[–]BaronHK [S] 1 point a minute ago Oct 03 01:20
DaemonFCBest case: Linux works around the limitation by resetting the hardware as soon as GRUB loads the kernel (GRUB uses the uEFI disk access so it doesn't need to be patched), and then does so every time the machine is rebooted.Oct 03 01:20
DaemonFCLenovo won't fix it. Intel won't release specs on how to handle the RAID mode that Lenovo locked it into. That means it's up to the kernel developers to add a quirk to deal with this case. That hasn't been done yet and I'm not sure it ever will unless a Linux developer actually buys such a laptop and is personally inconvenienced, or fixes it for some other reason. Even then, we know we can't trust Lenovo to not break something else, and we Oct 03 01:20
DaemonFCknow that they don't care if they do. So buy from a different company.Oct 03 01:20
XRevan86MinceR: Yep, it's exactly about what I thought it would be about.Oct 03 01:22
MinceR:)Oct 03 01:23
XRevan86MinceR: I wonder if it should be banned by the "believers feelings protection law" %)Oct 03 01:23
MinceRlolOct 03 01:23
XRevan86MinceR: Pity I can't use that video for people who'd need to see it.Oct 03 01:27
MinceRwhy?Oct 03 01:27
XRevan86MinceR: It's in English.Oct 03 01:27
MinceRicOct 03 01:27
XRevan86Though it has subs but that's not good enough.Oct 03 01:28
MinceRbrendyn: looks like uBlock Origin successfully blocks the offending ads on noscript.netOct 03 01:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144Oct 03 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/Oct 03 01:40
schestowitz"I don’t like HP now what they did with their printers. Uuuugh. I do have an HP printer though."Oct 03 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ptv4v ]Oct 03 01:40
schestowitz"Yeah it’s a nice thing HP did with that printer firmware to say f*** off to custom cartridges…"Oct 03 01:40
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I don't really value printing in color, but my printer demands a color cartridge before it will print anything at all.Oct 03 01:42
MinceRreason for a separate grayscale printer :>Oct 03 01:43
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schestowitzGreen party copied me https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/782660240164712449Oct 03 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrJillStein: Polls show a majority of voters backing Clinton and Trump are motivated by fear, not by support for their candidate… https://t.co/eSBp9cNVG9Oct 03 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrJillStein: Polls show a majority of voters backing Clinton and Trump are motivated by fear, not by support for their candidate… https://t.co/eSBp9cNVG9Oct 03 01:51
schestowitzafter I said the same thing and many people RTd meOct 03 01:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782734725953818624Oct 03 01:54
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/AWZcX14xhROct 03 01:54
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 01:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 03 01:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782745508855046144Oct 03 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung starts distributing Samsung Z2 in Indonesia. MoreOct 03 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 apps to the Tizen store https://t.co/cIY1gsC2IOOct 03 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 03 02:02
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung starts distributing Samsung Z2 in Indonesia. More apps to the Tizen store - Tizen ExpertsOct 03 02:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782746584094302208Oct 03 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Sony's new phone is Android's answer to the iPhone SEOct 03 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0R4Q3EME2W (uk.businessinsider.com)Oct 03 02:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Sony Xperia X Compact review: Android's answer to the iPhone SE - Business InsiderOct 03 02:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782747408740614144Oct 03 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Phone For Gamers https://t.co/yfPtHJZiEEOct 03 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 03 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Phone For Gamers | Android CentralOct 03 02:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/782754347411206145Oct 03 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: Compare this with the brouhaha over pretty dubious Zika claims prior to the Rio Games. US #MSM make Pravda and Tass… https://t.co/LMrTOUQdBhOct 03 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: Compare this with the brouhaha over pretty dubious Zika claims prior to the Rio Games. US #MSM make Pravda and Tass… https://t.co/LMrTOUQdBhOct 03 02:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782747633085480961Oct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Mysterious Nokia D1C Android smartphone spotted onOct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Geekbench https://t.co/8NlJQY1CHz (www.gsmarena.com)Oct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mysterious Nokia D1C Android smartphone spotted on Geekbench - GSMArena.com newsOct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782751536925511680Oct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 T-Mobile G1 revisited: Welcoming Android to the worldOct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QMiTcLrnVB (www.technobuffalo.com)Oct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | T-Mobile G1 revisited: Welcoming Android to the worldOct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782756211955474432Oct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, ShipsOct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 https://t.co/78CizGgBVIOct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships with Linux Kernel 4.7.5Oct 03 02:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782756387491311616Oct 03 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros withOct 03 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Various Improvements https://t.co/ZGzSCGDXNAOct 03 02:39
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TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros with Various ImprovementsOct 03 02:39
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TweetTuxMachines                 Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 KernelOct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2JvgOZ06bj (www.phoronix.com) Linux 4.8Oct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Released https://t.co/rNbYm7FAoAOct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/bF6Uw46LvGOct 03 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 Kernel - PhoronixOct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 03 02:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.8 Kernel Released - PhoronixOct 03 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Officially Released, Merge Window for Kernel 4.9 Now OpenOct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782758631804702721Oct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 4MRecover 20.0 Data Recovery Live CD Is Now in Beta,Oct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Includes TestDisk 7.0 https://t.co/hjXgFDk5wIOct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Oct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | 4MRecover 20.0 Data Recovery Live CD Is Now in Beta, Includes TestDisk 7.0Oct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782759033065369600Oct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 Reached End of Life, Upgrade toOct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 Now https://t.co/7aOQ1t0o6iOct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 03 02:50
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 NowOct 03 02:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782759694884605952Oct 03 02:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Lennart’s Look At Systemd This Year, What’s Going ToOct 03 02:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Happen In 2017 https://t.co/jYcowotBbj (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 02:56
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lennart's Look At Systemd This Year, What's Going To Happen In 2017 - PhoronixOct 03 02:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782760801560035329Oct 03 02:56
TweetTuxMachines                 DebEX KDE Live DVD Updated with KDE 4.14.2 and Plasma 5,Oct 03 02:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.8 RC8Oct 03 02:56
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/iYUbBTh6yX (news.softpedia.com)Oct 03 02:56
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | DebEX KDE Live DVD Updated with KDE 4.14.2 and Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.8 RC8Oct 03 02:56
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/brexit-who-has-power-to-change-uk-law.html?showComment=1475409336323#c7540450669000843274Oct 03 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Brexit - who has the power to change UK law? [ http://ur1.ca/ptzvb ]Oct 03 03:10
schestowitz"Oct 03 03:10
schestowitz The ECA '72 (passed - obviously - before the '75 referendum and after promises were made that the UK could always veto anything it didn't like - promised by Heath, delivered by Wilson) has within it the seeds of is own destruction. If article 50 is activated then after the two year period there are no obligations "... created or arising under the Treaties ...". Hence no need to repeal the ECA '72 ... in the right circumstances. The question Oct 03 03:10
schestowitzis, what are they?Oct 03 03:10
schestowitzOne line of argument might be that it follows from the above that it is not a matter for parliament to legislate or repeal. The real question might then be whether article 50 is something which can be activated by the government or by the government with the fiat of parliament. It is that uncertainty which will occupy the thinking of the court in the upcoming case. For that reason, whatever the result, it will be helpful.Oct 03 03:10
schestowitzAshley Oct 03 03:10
schestowitz"Oct 03 03:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782513731918004224Oct 03 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @hintjensyour your flickr/yahoo login has been p0wned :-)Oct 03 03:16
DaemonFCHmm. Apparently, Tox split off to uTox. The lead developer was embezzling donation money.Oct 03 03:53
DaemonFCAt least it's open source, so that they can do that.Oct 03 03:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782762741182369792Oct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi: How To Build A Digital Dashboard For AnOct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Older Car [Video] https://t.co/mqu6wOeaWJOct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techtimes.com)Oct 03 03:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Raspberry Pi: How To Build A Digital Dashboard For An Older Car [Video] : TECH : Tech TimesOct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775831189827584Oct 03 03:54
DaemonFCI'm sure that Tixati will eventually bundle spyware or adware or drive by downloads. If it's for Windows and it's proprietary freeware, it's only a matter of time.Oct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian Derivatives https://t.co/kePpWAEvOGOct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Derivatives | Tux MachinesOct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775832485826560Oct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Steam Gains https://t.co/NVznjISpEhOct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Steam Gains | Tux MachinesOct 03 03:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775833647656960Oct 03 03:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Newly-liberated software https://t.co/1T4LWWQDjCOct 03 03:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 03:55
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Newly-liberated software | Tux MachinesOct 03 03:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775834759180288Oct 03 03:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/V2Scdvy8y4Oct 03 03:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 03:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesOct 03 03:55
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DaemonFChttps://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.htmlOct 03 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkererOct 03 04:38
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DaemonFChttp://fabiensanglard.net/doom3/interviews.phpOct 03 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fabiensanglard.net | Doom3 Source Code Review: InterviewsOct 03 05:24
DaemonFCFabien Sanglard - The rendering system is now broken down in a frontend/backend: It reminds me of the design of a compiler which usually has a frontend->IR->backend pipeline. What this inspired by the design of LCC which was used for Quake3 bytecode generation ? I wonder what are the advantages over a monolithic renderer like Doom, idTech1 and idTech2.Oct 03 05:24
DaemonFCJohn Carmack - This was explicitly to support dual processor systems. It worked well on my dev system, but it never seemed stable enough in broad use, so we backed off from it. Interestingly, we only just found out last year why it was problematic (the same thing applied to Rage’s r_useSMP option, which we had to disable on the PC) – on windows, OpenGL can only safely draw to a window that was created by the same thread. We created Oct 03 05:24
DaemonFCthe window on the launch thread, but then did all the rendering on a separate render thread. It would be nice if doing this just failed with a clear error, but instead it works on some systems and randomly fails on others for no apparent reason.Oct 03 05:24
DaemonFCThe Doom 4 codebase now jumps through hoops to create the game window from the render thread and pump messages on it, but the better solution, which I have implemented in another project under development, is to leave the rendering on the launch thread, and run the game logic in the spawned thread.Oct 03 05:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782775835832889344Oct 03 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/Wqjy2OkxT2Oct 03 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 05:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 03 05:37
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DaemonFCschestowitz, http://www.alexstjohn.com/WP/2016/10/02/doom-for-windows/Oct 03 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexstjohn.com | Doom for Windows - The SaintThe SaintOct 03 05:54
DaemonFCThe creator of DirectX isn't pleased with Windows Update.Oct 03 05:55
DaemonFCIt ruined a business meeting and he ended up having to use his customer's Macbook because Windows Update made his computer useless for the whole meeting.Oct 03 05:56
DaemonFCI remember Windows 98...There was no automatic update. YOu had to go to Microsoft's website and have Internet Explorer install the updates.Oct 03 06:03
DaemonFChttp://www.alexstjohn.com/WP/2015/07/27/windows-update-sorry-my-bad/Oct 03 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexstjohn.com | Windows Update... sorry my bad... - The SaintThe SaintOct 03 06:05
DaemonFC"Windows update was born from a technology tragedy that occurred in 1994 that I like to call “The Disney Lion King Disaster” of which I was a central participant."Oct 03 06:05
DaemonFCI remember that.Oct 03 06:05
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Alex St. John: "Windows is obsolete."Oct 03 06:25
DaemonFC"So here’s what’s coming.  One day soon, Microsoft will accidentally blow up millions of machines in a way they can’t recover from.  The evidence is that they have completely lost control of the OS and their ability to maintain it.  A massive scale forced update with the obvious flaws we just experienced has only two obvious explanations."Oct 03 06:30
DaemonFCRyan FarmerOct 03 06:35
DaemonFCJust now · Oct 03 06:35
DaemonFCAlex St. John (Creator of the DirectX API for Windows):Oct 03 06:35
DaemonFC"Windows is obsolete" and one day soon, Microsoft will screw up and send out a forced update to Windows 10 that screws up millions of computers in a way that they can't recover from.Oct 03 06:35
DaemonFCI believe it. The stories of broken updates are flooding into the PC news sites every time MS releases one. If you haven't been hit with one yet, you're lucky.Oct 03 06:35
DaemonFCHe continues,Oct 03 06:36
DaemonFCI used to enjoy writing funny articles about how inept Microsoft was being with consumer stuff but this is a dangerous situation that has already spiraled out of control.  Oh yes, I nearly forgot to tie this together… here’s the text my son had sent me before I walked in to do that presentation;Oct 03 06:36
DaemonFC“Don’t turn on your computer, you’ll get a forced Windows 10 Update that will screw up your machine.  It kept rebooting and updating my machine in class, it took me hours to fix!  There’s alerts all over the Internet about it!”Oct 03 06:36
DaemonFCcubexyz, Yeah, the Chromebook Pixel might have been a better choice.Oct 03 06:39
DaemonFCThey don'tt come with huge amounts of RAM, but it's Linux so you really don't need it.Oct 03 06:39
DaemonFCWindows has always been pretty wasteful with RAM. We're getting to the point now where 16 GB is the "sweet spot" for Windows 10.Oct 03 06:39
DaemonFCAnd you don't even want to consider less than 8.Oct 03 06:40
DaemonFCAround 2002, I was using the "Configure your own Mac Pro." thing on Apple's website and drooling that if I only spent $25,000 I could have a computer with 16 GB of RAM. :)Oct 03 06:42
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DaemonFChttp://news.softpedia.com/news/no-free-upgrades-no-new-users-windows-10-declines-for-first-time-since-launch-508853.shtmlOct 03 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | No Free Upgrades, No New Users: Windows 10 Declines for First Time Since LaunchOct 03 07:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/782825879747559424Oct 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 KernelOct 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines @lordbaco       https://t.co/2JvgOZ06bj (www.phoronix.com) Linux 4.8Oct 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Released https://t.co/rNbYm7FAoAOct 03 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Features Of The Linux 4.8 Kernel - PhoronixOct 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/bF6Uw46LvGOct 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 03 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.8 Kernel Released - PhoronixOct 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Officially Released, Merge Window for Kernel 4.9 Now OpenOct 03 07:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: "Oct 03 08:07
schestowitzWindows failed to make the leap to new business models and new distributed computing paradigms such that now in the year 2016 Microsoft is on the cutting edge of adopting Apple’s 2007 business model for Windows 10.  Here’s why Microsoft has reached the end of its road.  They lost the mobile market, they lost search, they’re struggling to compete in the cloud and all they have left is a legacy OS with an architecture from the days of Oct 03 08:07
schestowitzpersonal computing when connectivity was something only nerds and IT managers worried about.  Now the idea of personal computer security is collapsing.  It is readily becoming apparent that NOTHING can stop malicious attackers from eventually penetrating the best most advanced security measures of any personal device.  Furthermore, as the Edward Snowden scandal has made plain to us all, if malicious attackers aren’t breaking into our Oct 03 08:07
schestowitzcomputers, then the worlds governments are requiring companies to make their products vulnerable to intrusion.  The idea that a lowly personal computer behind a frail consumer router… made in China… stands any chance of resisting serious hacking attempts is a fast fading dream.Oct 03 08:07
schestowitzBack when I was making online game publishing DRM (Digital Rights Management) Solutions we measured the time it took Chinese and Russian hackers to crack our best latest security attempts in weeks.  Today it can take a matter of days or hours.Oct 03 08:07
schestowitzThe Windows Operating system has become vast, bloated and cumbersome to maintain.  It faces constant security bombardment by the entire worlds connected hacker community and government security agencies.   The volume of patches it needs to maintain even the most rudimentary pretext of stability and security requires a constant and overwhelming flood of Windows updates.  The seriousness of the situation and the sheer flood of data Microsoft Oct 03 08:07
schestowitzis constantly sending to our computers is staggering.  I wanted to show a screen shot of my HUGE Windows Update history but mysteriously, after this most recent disastrous update… Microsoft has seen fit to clear my machine of that information…Oct 03 08:07
schestowitz"Oct 03 08:07
schestowitzI like it...Oct 03 08:07
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DaemonFCschestowitz, That about sums up my experience.Oct 03 08:12
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, Vista 10, some say, will finish themOct 03 08:12
schestowitzbut Lenovo ensures you can't go elsewhereOct 03 08:13
schestowitzmaybe that's the next 'best thing'Oct 03 08:13
schestowitzNext to 'free' upgradesOct 03 08:13
schestowitzand UEFIOct 03 08:13
DaemonFCEvery time you're doing something, another 600 MB-4GB update comes along and wants to monopolize your internet connection, then tie up your computer, and then restart.Oct 03 08:13
DaemonFCIt's verry aggravating.Oct 03 08:13
DaemonFCAnd that's *if* it installs and *if* it restarts.Oct 03 08:13
schestowitzhaOct 03 08:14
schestowitzthe botneyOct 03 08:14
DaemonFCschestowitz, Yeah. They resort to these pathetic obstacles so you can't leave Windows no matter what it does.Oct 03 08:14
schestowitzWUOct 03 08:14
schestowitz(botnetOct 03 08:14
schestowitzmicrosoft is trying to limit choice, says it “loves Linux”, Lies.Oct 03 08:15
DaemonFCYeah, first thing I disabled. The "p2p" updates.Oct 03 08:15
DaemonFCHijack your internet connection and make you pay Microsoft's bandwidth bills to get you to upgrade other people's computers.Oct 03 08:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, Yeah, some people were defending Microsoft because Windows has Bash now, and that's basically all you need Linux for really. :POct 03 08:16
schestowitzColombia’s rejection of a peace deal with Farc rebels to end 52 years of war does not mean an automatic return to hostilities, but it makes the possibility of peace, which had looked close enough to touch, once again a faraway prospect.Oct 03 08:19
schestowitzAll the pieces were in place to begin implementation of a deal that was four years in the making after talks between government and Farc negotiators in Havana. The Farc had ratified the accord at a national conference, President Juan Manuel Santos and Farc leader Timochenko had signed it in a public ceremony and UN monitors were ready to oversee the bringing together and disarmament of the Farc’s 5,800 fighters. The Nobel committee was Oct 03 08:19
schestowitzreportedly considering a peace prize for Colombia.Oct 03 08:19
schestowitzhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/03/colombias-peace-further-away-is-further-away-but-it-may-stillOct 03 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Colombia’s Brexit moment as politicians misjudge popular anger at Farc amnesty | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/pu146 ]Oct 03 08:19
schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-colombia-peace-idUSKCN1230BH?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNewsOct 03 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Colombia's Santos, FARC scramble to revive peace after shock vote | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/pu149 ]Oct 03 08:19
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TweetTuxMachines                 Legends of Linux Part 1: Linus TorvaldsOct 03 08:52
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Hopefully a fix for this RAID mode crap on my laptop can be done for Linux 4.9.Oct 03 08:56
DaemonFCNot counting on it though.Oct 03 08:57
schestowitzmaybeOct 03 09:02
schestowitzbut it should already workOct 03 09:02
schestowitzLenovo doesn't want it toOct 03 09:02
schestowitzkeep chasing themOct 03 09:02
schestowitzthey must be going nuts over youOct 03 09:03
schestowitzhaving special meetings on how to deal with youOct 03 09:03
schestowitzyou cost them many millionsOct 03 09:03
DaemonFChttps://gcoupe.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/the-lenovo-yoga-900-software/Oct 03 09:04
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DaemonFCschestowitz, According to Lenovo, if you use Windows Anytime Upgrade to get Windows 10 Pro, then they won't support it.Oct 03 09:04
DaemonFCUsers reporting that the Onekey recovery (used if you can't boot into Windows) isn't working for them.Oct 03 09:06
DaemonFCSo not only can you not install Linux or Windows from Microsoft's ISO, the recovery feature may not work and now you have a brick.Oct 03 09:06
DaemonFCWell, I made a special installer in case that happens to me, but it wasn't easy,Oct 03 09:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, Newegg made a reply to it.Oct 03 09:07
DaemonFCThey admitted that you couldn't install Linux on the models I pointed out and pointed out 10 Lenovo laptops that they sell which you can install Linux on.Oct 03 09:08
DaemonFCHow arbitrary...Oct 03 09:08
DaemonFCOh gee, see this company has shit support for Linux and shit support in general, so here's some laptops where you can shoehorn Linux in from this company that you don't want to do business with anyway.Oct 03 09:08
DaemonFCschestowitz, As for Alex St. John's comment that MS is adopting Apple's business model from 10 years ago, that does seem to be the case.Oct 03 09:09
DaemonFCIt'll always be called "Windows 10", they just foist upgrades on you whether you want them or not.Oct 03 09:09
DaemonFCI agree that it could conceivably make the OS more stable, coherent, secure, etc. if it was from anyone but Microsoft.Oct 03 09:10
DaemonFCIn reality it just gives you a mess to deal with once or twice a month.Oct 03 09:10
schestowitzI don't see a connection to AppleOct 03 09:29
schestowitzin his mind, maybe it's still just "Mac vs PC"Oct 03 09:29
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TweetTuxMachines                 Which Raspberry Pi should you choose for your project?Oct 03 10:14
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 3/10/2016: Linux 4.8 Released, Steam Survey ShowsOct 03 10:14
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TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop: GNU/Linux Bug Reports, Creator of DirectX on theOct 03 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Demise of Microsoft, Vista 10 Share FallsOct 03 10:24
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TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/nCRvoGKT5yOct 03 10:32
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TweetTuxMachines                 DNF 2.0.0 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 1.0.0 ReleasedOct 03 10:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/782875864451026944Oct 03 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  GNU/Linux Growth https://t.co/anlcL0MhlM (techrights.org)Oct 03 10:41
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DaemonFChttps://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/81659/microsoft-delivers-yet-another-broken-windows-10-updateOct 03 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Delivers Yet Another Broken Windows 10 Update - Thurrott.comOct 03 10:47
DaemonFCPolycrastinator Alpha Member #165 - 1 day agoOct 03 10:47
DaemonFCMicrosoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. Without the option to effectively opt out of these things until they're fixed, staying on Windows 7 - or moving to another platform, eventually - is starting to look like a wiser and wiser choice. Businesses can't afford the down time from failed updates, and with Windows 10 that down time Oct 03 10:47
DaemonFCis starting to feel like an inevitability.Oct 03 10:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 When every Beta closes another Alpha opens…Oct 03 10:55
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TweetTuxMachines                 White Google Pixel and Pixel XL leaked by BellOct 03 10:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/h5VuMLqgkO (www.androidauthority.com)Oct 03 10:56
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TweetTuxMachines                 security things in Linux v4.7 https://t.co/gSPSMV9zvfOct 03 11:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 Best Phones for Rooting and ModdingOct 03 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KvsCaWDWFL (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 03 11:16
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schestowitz[10:47] <DaemonFC> Microsoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. Oct 03 11:24
schestowitzBut rememberOct 03 11:24
schestowitzthey say they're not "cloud first"Oct 03 11:24
schestowitz:-)Oct 03 11:24
schestowitzWindows can wait...Oct 03 11:24
schestowitzThe Clown comes firstOct 03 11:24
schestowitz /s/not/now/Oct 03 11:24
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TweetTuxMachines                 DNF 2.0.0 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 1.0.0 ReleasedOct 03 11:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782892608498524160Oct 03 11:38
TweetTuxMachines                 How startups can use open source software to competeOct 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 against the big guys https://t.co/X9qKJGXrbEOct 03 11:39
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/xyo8WHNQHNOct 03 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software ForOct 03 13:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/rfxxBzOGeh (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 13:17
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cubexyzok, windows being bad is nothing newOct 03 13:28
cubexyzI first thought windows 2.0 was bad in 1987 & 1988Oct 03 13:29
cubexyzthe importance of FOSS didn't cross my mind at the timeOct 03 13:29
cubexyzI just thought windows 2.0 was slowOct 03 13:29
cubexyzprobably the idea that all programs should be FOSS didn't really hit me until my first BIOS contructions around 2010Oct 03 13:31
cubexyzand of course msdos was pretty clumsy in many ways...Oct 03 13:38
cubexyzso can imagine the low opinion the Unix folks had of the 16-bit windows 2.0Oct 03 13:38
MinceRyet another desperate trick to force users to use bìng >> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TQ3hI3ZOct 03 13:40
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cubexyzyou could live with a closed source BIOS in those days... not nowOct 03 13:42
cubexyzonce you start thinking about firmware the old Sun Ultra series doesn't look too badOct 03 13:44
cubexyzI mean you actually can "svn co svn://openbios.org/openboot/"Oct 03 13:45
cubexyzand you got all the sourceOct 03 13:45
cubexyzok, it's in forth, but still...Oct 03 13:48
cubexyzif you want the least control over your computer then windows 10 is perfect... closed source everything, and even a BIOS that is sometimes hostile to other OSesOct 03 13:53
cubexyzthat's actually much worse than the situation in 1987Oct 03 13:54
cubexyzof course because of chromebooks the situation isn't absolutely worse... only in some waysOct 03 13:57
sag3the future looks bright :)Oct 03 14:00
MinceRthe flashes of nuclear devicesOct 03 14:01
sag3meh, I'll be on my Vault-Tec vault with patented techonology specifically designed to keep me and my family safeOct 03 14:05
sag3nothing can go wrongOct 03 14:05
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cubexyzyou might want to ask John Titor about that :)Oct 03 14:08
MinceRfood will run out eventuallyOct 03 14:08
sag3but cubexyzOct 03 14:11
sag3*cue suspenseful music*Oct 03 14:11
sag3i AM John TitorOct 03 14:11
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/aRd0O0I.pngOct 03 14:13
cubexyzY2K <--- "people will freeze to death"Oct 03 14:14
cubexyzone of his more bogus predictionsOct 03 14:14
sag3the IBM one was interesting thoughOct 03 14:15
sag3"Titor claimed that he was sent back to obtain an IBM 5100 because it could translate several types of computer code. According to IBM engineer Bob Dubke, Titor's statements regarding the IBM 5100's little-known ability to emulate and debug mainframe systems were correct."Oct 03 14:15
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-install-error.pngOct 03 14:19
cubexyzoops, what happened there :)Oct 03 14:19
cubexyzsomething happened, but what?Oct 03 14:20
cubexyzhttp://i.imgur.com/1EJvBg2.gifOct 03 14:21
cubexyzoh another claim... "wordwide nuclear war will kill 3 billion in 2015"Oct 03 14:29
cubexyz"2008 olympics will be cancelled"Oct 03 14:30
cubexyzand the IBM 5100 only had 64K ramOct 03 14:35
cubexyzit could run S/360 APLOct 03 14:36
cubexyzyou can think of the IBM 5100 as a S/360 mainframe that could only run APLOct 03 14:36
cubexyza big S/360 could address 8 megs of ramOct 03 14:38
cubexyzI did some research on a APL timeline:Oct 03 14:39
cubexyzhttp://apl.maxhost.org/apl-timeline.txtOct 03 14:39
cubexyzso APL for the 5100 was derived from the S/360 versionOct 03 14:40
cubexyzso the whole story is bogusOct 03 14:41
cubexyzI run OS/360-MVT sometimes... it's not even that interestingOct 03 14:44
cubexyzonly interesting to techno-historiansOct 03 14:45
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/qvLWVM0.jpgOct 03 16:00
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dblaberMinceR: don't like the sun :)?Oct 03 16:24
dblaberi do think its incredibly stupid that people sit in the sun for hours just for trying to get tanOct 03 16:25
MinceRindeedOct 03 16:28
MinceRthey unnecessarily make their skin degraded and increase the risk of cancerOct 03 16:28
dblaberhowever, i am not going to hide myself from the sun when I am doing something outdoorsOct 03 16:28
dblaberand will use lotion if its going to be extendedOct 03 16:29
MinceRyeah, i don't hide myself either, except for purposes of thermal regulationOct 03 16:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782917347589763072Oct 03 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Artificial Intelligence, The Search For The Perfect SlaveOct 03 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XnHI3gborz (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 16:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Artificial Intelligence, The Search For The Perfect Slave | Tux MachinesOct 03 16:40
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/f480n1W.jpgOct 03 16:41
schestowitzMinceR: interesting about cancerOct 03 17:00
schestowitzhow accurate is that though?Oct 03 17:00
MinceRaccording to wikipedia, pretty closeOct 03 17:04
MinceRthere are mechanisms that can repair the DNA without killing the cell, but DNA damage always comes with the risk of cancerOct 03 17:05
MinceRand some of the time it does lead to apoptosis to avoid cancerOct 03 17:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782968423072555008Oct 03 17:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 GnuCash A Free & Open Source Accounting Software ForOct 03 17:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782975883590111236Oct 03 17:12
TweetTuxMachines                 'Earthlock: Festival of Magic' 3D RPG now has a LinuxOct 03 17:12
TweetTuxMachines                 alpha available https://t.co/GN7Fu2YtuXOct 03 17:12
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782884777842053125Oct 03 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: Google/Alphabet Inc. is the next Microsoft. Google Play Store most probably includes spyware. https://t.co/1Z0q1dhoJEOct 03 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Remember #microsoft was behind this, remember #android is #linux based, ask yourself if "Microsoft loves Linux" https://t.co/ydQBzeXZg0Oct 03 17:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782895022463070208Oct 03 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz It's a good cop/bad cop model, the way I see it at least. There are government money behind Google just as behind Microsoft.Oct 03 17:19
schestowitzGovernment money isn't the worst among the criteria at stakeOct 03 17:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782895630838620160Oct 03 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz While Google does huge service to free software they were together in PRISM. And there are Android apps for "rooting" a device.Oct 03 17:20
schestowitzPRISM started with Microsoft, then Skype after Microsoft took overOct 03 17:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782896413705433088  https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782897685120552960   https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782897685120552960Oct 03 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz First Androids were literary Java, but wecouldn't run Java apps, only special Android apps. Which is quite Microsoftish thing.Oct 03 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz And Google is the reason proprietary Flash Player is not dead, but installed on billions of new devices today.Oct 03 17:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782898278601986048Oct 03 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz Good cop is still a cop, but it can be really good for us if we keep a healthy distance. That's what I mean.Oct 03 17:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/782969334964649985Oct 03 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz #CronyCapitalism the tax codes written by the elites for the elites & passed by career politicians-dump incumbents for changeOct 03 17:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/joeytwiddle/status/782967795843600386Oct 03 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeytwiddle: Aim for: learn, play, create, teach Avoid: imagine, argue, agree, implement (the latter delivers junk) https://t.co/r6ZI7wTlDmOct 03 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Make it Open Source Not eventually. Not when it's working. Not if you get management approval." - @hintjens https://t.co/lkXmOUo4PBOct 03 17:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782971583531024384   https://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782971789228015616Oct 03 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz very oddOct 03 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz the She-Devil would drink blood if she knew that would get votesOct 03 17:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782972143797698560Oct 03 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz @sankofadotorg it's all about getting money and promotionOct 03 17:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AliasHere/status/782973880046456834Oct 03 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AliasHere: .@schestowitz :-))Oct 03 17:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ctheius/status/782980073557073920Oct 03 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ctheius: @schestowitz @DrJillStein how?Oct 03 17:28
schestowitzLess blowback, as the CIA calls it (predicting retaliatory attacks)Oct 03 17:28
schestowitzLess blowback, as the CIA calls it (predicting retaliatory attacks)Oct 03 17:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/782980620381147138Oct 03 17:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz @DrJillStein serious? It's about all the trillions of dollars that disappear and nobody knows where it wentOct 03 17:29
schestowitzShe goes by the official figures, no black budget. I pointed this out to her last night.Oct 03 17:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ctheius/status/782981240185954307Oct 03 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ctheius: @schestowitz @DrJillStein A weaker military makes you weaker, non-intervention is ok, crippling our means of staying isolationist is not.Oct 03 17:31
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TweetTuxMachines                 Become a Vampire hunter in 'Slayer Shock' now out in fullOct 03 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 with Linux support https://t.co/Yjvj8SXo9lOct 03 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994734780252160Oct 03 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Arduino on Arduino battle ends in reconciliation, mergerOct 03 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XDi4PTcGWv (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 18:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino on Arduino battle ends in reconciliation, merger | Tux MachinesOct 03 18:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994735866613761Oct 03 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/QoHP1yUKg0Oct 03 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782994736961298432Oct 03 19:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Dutch transparency advocates asking for open source, toOct 03 19:26
TweetTuxMachines                 get open data https://t.co/KBvSiZF8owOct 03 19:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 19:26
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dutch transparency advocates asking for open source, to get open data | Tux MachinesOct 03 19:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/782997342718980096Oct 03 19:26
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/QoHP1yUKg0Oct 03 19:26
TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 19:26
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schestowitzMinceR: cheersOct 03 19:33
MinceR:)Oct 03 19:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783010279026229248Oct 03 19:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Most Secure Android Phone https://t.co/gRi6Y5BtYKOct 03 19:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 03 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Most Secure Android Phone | Android CentralOct 03 19:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013218948120576Oct 03 19:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013493989670917Oct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key toOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/mCh0e8WAZ2Oct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.networkworld.com)Oct 03 19:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, securityOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013692929634305Oct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems overOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Ethernet Switches https://t.co/N8qdEI2UQE (insidehpc.com)Oct 03 19:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over Ethernet Switches - insideHPCOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013745479921664Oct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key toOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 ensuring privacy, security https://t.co/2wOG6KXS3tOct 03 19:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Down the rabbit hole, part 3: Linux and Tor are key to ensuring privacy, security | Tux MachinesOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013746524364800Oct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems overOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Ethernet Switches https://t.co/DtRGjiwlheOct 03 19:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mellanox Deploys Standard Linux Operating Systems over Ethernet Switches | Tux MachinesOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013747665178625Oct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on LinuxOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lMVtPf852n (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 19:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Tux MachinesOct 03 19:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783013829705891840Oct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on LinuxOct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OBPbpCu1sn (www.linux.com)Oct 03 20:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationOct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783015147338141696Oct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap AppsOct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hfRElGIlw5 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 03 20:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap Apps - OMG! Ubuntu!Oct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783021093254787076Oct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More DriversOct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/R4P8O19Sho (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 20:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More Drivers - PhoronixOct 03 20:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/783026218782355460Oct 03 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz voting for you Jill will help Donald Trump win. Thank you :-)Oct 03 20:30
schestowitzOrdering fish at a restaurant gives you beef. Or something...Oct 03 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783022583738433536Oct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9 features overview/previewOct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PPVOkepflK (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 20:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9's CPUFreq To Make Greater Use Of Scheduler Info, IOWait Boosting - PhoronixOct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8k37rho2du (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EFI Test Driver Added To The Mainline Linux 4.9 Kernel - PhoronixOct 03 20:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.9 On x86_64 To Support Vmapped Stacks - PhoronixOct 03 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mellanox Platform Support Coming In Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783025766460260352Oct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 "In the months ahead the Linux kernel should startOct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 receiving the work out of the "make-wifi-fast"Oct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 initiative" https://t.co/Kv8Srz2Qoo (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Should Soon Start Receiving "Make WiFi Fast" Improvements - PhoronixOct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783027063515189248Oct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch eraOct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EQuaMZpdMj (www.techphylum.com)Oct 03 20:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch era | TECHPHYLUM.COMOct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783027809132376064Oct 03 20:50
TweetTuxMachines                 #Mesos and #Kubernetes on a hybrid (IBM Power and x86)Oct 03 20:50
TweetTuxMachines                 architecture scenario https://t.co/6tfHC4c03M-Oct 03 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8Oct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/belAm7Posa (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 21:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8 | Tux MachinesOct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031482143035393Oct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd bug in the News https://t.co/y0pUz3zArKOct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 21:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd bug in the News | Tux MachinesOct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031483258638336Oct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9 Preview https://t.co/KJWaOGnrtIOct 03 21:07
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MinceRhttps://linux.ucla.edu/~eqy/molasses.htmlOct 03 21:16
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MinceRhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1901544/google-promotes-controversial-claim-its-not-possible-for-ethnic-minorities-to-be-racist-against-white-people/Oct 03 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Google promotes claim it's NOT possible for ethnic minorities to be racist against white peopleOct 03 21:28
MinceRhttps://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14563457_347374705611461_369513723668309429_n.png?oh=c5ae032410e0b8a6029129847b41d826&oe=5871EC28Oct 03 21:42
XRevan86MinceR: I start to wonder more and more what exactly is a "white" person, and people of colour.Oct 03 21:44
MinceRit's not discrete at allOct 03 21:44
XRevan86Apparently it doesn't mean "Caucasian" because a lot of Caucasian people are being called coloured.Oct 03 21:46
XRevan86Like MexicansOct 03 21:46
XRevan86And it doesn't mean "Usonian" because I think I would have been called a white person while being far outside of US in a barely developed country.Oct 03 21:47
MinceR:>Oct 03 21:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/vinnyoh89/status/783045439524212737Oct 03 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vinnyoh89: @coryxoxo @schestowitz never mind the fact that right to work states pay workers less and give less benefitsOct 03 21:47
XRevan86it also doesn't mean being part of the developed world because I'm "white" and Japanese aren'tOct 03 21:48
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuropidOct 03 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasian race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaOct 03 21:48
schestowitzMinceR: trueOct 03 21:48
schestowitzthe whole premise of the article is dumbOct 03 21:48
XRevan86MinceR: But Mexicans are "coloured"Oct 03 21:48
MinceRwell, this crybully claim about "reverse" racism is stupidOct 03 21:49
XRevan86while being EuropioidOct 03 21:49
MinceRthey just want to be bigots and have people accept itOct 03 21:49
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/YimX0m6Oct 03 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Word needs too revise its grammar - ImgurOct 03 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783035676740751361Oct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0Oct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c85fV9HGbM (techrights.org)Oct 03 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049724345536512Oct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/ZwM0B8Hj2iOct 03 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049725465419776Oct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/rVoNyHRZ0JOct 03 22:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux MachinesOct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049726706888704Oct 03 22:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/bAxYyGgBayOct 03 22:04
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StitesIn the USA the Federal Appeals Court for the Federal Circuit has issued a ruling by a 3 judge panel throwing out a software patent.  Two judges issued an opinion saying the software patent was invalid for the usual mundane reasons.  The third judge, Judge Meyer, agreed with the other 2 judges and then added 2 more reasons.  Judge Meyer's second reason is that no software is patentable ever.  This is HUGE!  Here is the text of JudgeOct 03 22:20
Stiteshttp://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.htmlOct 03 22:20
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stites_You need to read this:  http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.htmlOct 03 22:22
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schestowitzseen itOct 03 22:34
schestowitzcovered this morningOct 03 22:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/EjWtd8GxsPOct 03 22:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049728850145280Oct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/bQMwD6RQH0Oct 03 22:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063614571835393Oct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 HackMIT meets Fedora https://t.co/A9CBX0EkTbOct 03 22:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063905878827008Oct 03 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 A tiny PC as a router  https://t.co/oDgLTQsNZUOct 03 23:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.liw.fi | A tiny PC as a routerOct 03 23:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783066548143583233Oct 03 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8Oct 03 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0DZINaEYrp (padovan.org)Oct 03 23:26
TweetTuxMachines Oct 03 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-padovan.org | Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8 – Gustavo PadovanOct 03 23:26
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/hpKWIi9.jpgOct 03 23:28
schestowitzbambi?!Oct 03 23:39
schestowitzMinceR: methinks you have a kickass addictionOct 03 23:40
MinceR:)Oct 03 23:41
MinceRno, just found a dump on imgurOct 03 23:41
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DaemonFCI decided to sign up with a per-mile car insurance plan. Little creepy, but the pricing is good.Oct 04 00:33
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DaemonFCschestowitz, What do you think about that?Oct 04 03:05
DaemonFCPlug in a device that records how much you drive and just pay for what you use.Oct 04 03:05
DaemonFCThere's a small base rate (like $17.62 a month for me) and then a per-mile fee depending on what insurance options you get (2.2 cents per mile for me).Oct 04 03:05
DaemonFCIf I'm correct, I should average $20 a month this way where I pay $60 now.Oct 04 03:06
DaemonFCWhat I'm paying now is essentially a huge subsidy for other people who drive a lot.Oct 04 03:06
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DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/Oct 04 03:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : LenovoOct 04 03:33
DaemonFCschestowitz, Someone commented.Oct 04 03:33
DaemonFC[–]195one 1 point 18 minutes ago Oct 04 03:33
DaemonFCGLTY. I must surely hold the record. Lenovo has been performing warranty work on my device since APRIL 11, 2016. They still have it.Oct 04 03:33
DaemonFCA Lenovo Forums moderator replied a few days ago and then deleted the message a few minutes later.Oct 04 03:34
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now Oct 04 03:35
DaemonFCI've heard a few others tell me this. So the moral of the story is "Don't buy the extended warranty because the one that came with the machine is already useless. Their repair center is actually a black hole.".Oct 04 03:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118650119036928Oct 04 03:38
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DaemonFCschestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything.Oct 04 03:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118651138281472Oct 04 03:39
TweetTuxMachines                 What’s new in PostgreSQL 9.5 https://t.co/nEX279EXoSOct 04 03:39
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DaemonFCThey even paid to ship it both ways.Oct 04 03:39
DaemonFCI shuld hve bought the Spectre.Oct 04 03:40
DaemonFC*shouldOct 04 03:40
DaemonFCI've heard people tell me they use Linux on their HP Spectre and are very pleased with it.Oct 04 03:40
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DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55odat/new_lenovo_windows_10_laptops_launch_in_india/Oct 04 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | New Lenovo Windows 10 laptops launch in India : LenovoOct 04 03:46
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 04 03:46
DaemonFCSince it has a HDD it will probably even run Linux. Probably.Oct 04 03:47
DaemonFCI bought into the idea of a fast SSD because I do't like waiting on the computer to pull up data from the HDD, and while the SSD is crazy fast and I don't plan to ever use a HDD again, the way Lenovo configured this SSD is insane, and therefore, Linux won't run.Oct 04 03:47
DaemonFCApparently even Newegg Business tried to get out in front of my revelation by saying "Sure those Lenovo laptops won't run Linux, but here's 10 that do.". Like that makes everything better or something. It's like walking through a minefield.Oct 04 03:47
DaemonFCMost of the Linux compatible Lenovo models either have a hard drive or are on AMD's platform. If they are Intel-based, they seem to be last year's models that we already knew run Linux.Oct 04 03:47
DaemonFCIn other words, a smorgasbord of cheap crap and yesterday's news.Oct 04 03:47
DaemonFCDon't trust Lenovo further than you can throw a Buick.Oct 04 03:47
DaemonFCAs for another problem with Lenovo, I've now talked to several people who sent theirs in for a warranty repair....to a black hole apparently....one told me that they sent it in back in June and Lenovo keeps making excuses for why it hasn't been sent back yet. I thought that was bad until someone else told me theirs has been with Lenovo since April.Oct 04 03:50
DaemonFCIn my experience, HP paid to ship my old Presario laptop both ways and fixed the touchpad, for free, three years after the warranty expired, and they even updated the BIOS while it was in there. Turnaround time was all of a week.Oct 04 03:51
DaemonFCNow we know how Lenovo can have impossibly low prices. Aside from all thirty pieces of crapware that comes wth their non-Signature PCs, they get kickbacks for locking all of their Signature PCs so you can't run Linux on them per a Microsoft agreement, and then they cut customer service to the bone so you get people that can't troubleshoot simple problems and a repair center that is backed up for 8 months and/or might have actually lose your Oct 04 03:53
DaemonFClaptop.Oct 04 03:53
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/Oct 04 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : LenovoOct 04 04:00
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 04 04:00
DaemonFCFailure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold.Oct 04 04:00
DaemonFC"Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo."Oct 04 04:00
DaemonFC[...]Oct 04 04:00
DaemonFCSorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason:Oct 04 04:00
DaemonFCLenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2Oct 04 04:00
DaemonFCError:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program.Oct 04 04:00
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55a516/is_your_lenovo_yoga_900_reliable/Oct 04 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is your Lenovo Yoga 900 reliable? : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/pu5mo ]Oct 04 04:07
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 04 04:07
DaemonFCIf you never want to install Linux or be able to reinstall Windows from MS if your pre-installed Windows is screwed up and Onekey recovery doesn't work...Oct 04 04:07
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/Oct 04 04:07
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/Oct 04 04:07
DaemonFCIf you want to send your laptop in for repair and have them still make excuses when you don't have it 8 months later...Oct 04 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Warning: Microsoft Signature PC program now requires that you can't run Linux. Lenovo's recent Ultrabooks among affected systems. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/prx4h ]Oct 04 04:07
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/Oct 04 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ]Oct 04 04:07
DaemonFCThen by all means, buy Lenovo.Oct 04 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : LenovoOct 04 04:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://en.yibada.com/articles/164482/20161003/lenovo-motorola-google-smartphone-mobile.htmOct 04 04:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.yibada.com | Lenovo shutting down; employee layoffs a precursor? : Tech : YibadaOct 04 04:18
DaemonFCSpeculation that Lenovo risks going under.Oct 04 04:18
DaemonFCBasically saying everything I did. Oct 04 04:20
DaemonFCNo new products. Shutting down and cannibalizing entire divisions. What happened to Motorola is essentially a write-off.Oct 04 04:21
DaemonFCSeems like there is much to go on that leads towards Lenovo failing.Oct 04 04:32
DaemonFCLike other failing companies, they were desperate for cash to the point of letting Microsoft ensure their ruin in exchange for a short-term payoff.Oct 04 04:32
DaemonFCLinspire limped along for a little while from the money in the Microsoft agreement. Michael Robertson probably figured that he would shut the company down one day and keep it all for himself. Kevin Carmony, as CEO, dipped into it to pay their employees a severance package. Robertson sued trying to get it back and lost.Oct 04 04:33
DaemonFCCarmony seems like a decent guy in my opinion.Oct 04 04:34
DaemonFCThere was no saving Linspire as a company after Ubuntu got to the point where it was at.Oct 04 04:37
dblaberis ubuntu still where it was in the past :)?Oct 04 05:03
DaemonFChttps://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/Oct 04 05:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Mozilla Foundation Security Advisories — MozillaOct 04 05:38
DaemonFC18 security vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 49. Of those, 12 were applicable to Firefox 45 ESR and closed in 45.4.Oct 04 05:39
DaemonFCNoScript *might* offer protection, but the author is peddling malware on his own website now.Oct 04 05:40
DaemonFCThat makes 103 security vulnerabilities closed in Firefox so far this year.Oct 04 05:42
DaemonFCActually, more, since some of them are actually multiple bugs put in the same advisory. Oct 04 05:42
DaemonFCSuch as "Miscellaneous memory safety hazards".Oct 04 05:43
DaemonFCMiscellaneous memory safety hazards (rv:48.0 / rv:45.3) actually contains 9 bugs in one advisory.Oct 04 05:43
DaemonFCThose actually hide 59 more bugs inside themOct 04 05:47
DaemonFCFor a total of 162.Oct 04 05:47
DaemonFCThat puts them on track for 216 security vulnerabilities closed this year.Oct 04 05:48
DaemonFCThat's not as bad as Flash. Flash had 315 closed last year.Oct 04 05:48
DaemonFCBasically, adding Flash very likely gives you more vulnerabilities than existed in the entire web browser before.Oct 04 05:49
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DaemonFChttps://techcrunch.com/2016/10/03/walmartlabs-open-sources-the-application-platform-that-powers-walmart-com/Oct 04 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WalmartLabs open sources the application platform that powers Walmart.com | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/pu73o ]Oct 04 08:09
DaemonFCIt looks like Lenovo forums is down.Oct 04 08:11
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schestowitz[03:39] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything.Oct 04 11:03
schestowitzMy main laptop, an HP, is reliableOct 04 11:03
schestowitznever had to repair anything yet (since 2009)Oct 04 11:04
schestowitzthe chromebook is another matter, returned it to the shopOct 04 11:04
schestowitz(HP 14)Oct 04 11:04
schestowitzHP Chromebook 14 or whatever they called itOct 04 11:04
schestowitzseems like others reported the same issued with itOct 04 11:04
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schestowitz[05:03] <dblaber> is ubuntu still where it was in the past :)?Oct 04 11:12
schestowitzMore server focusOct 04 11:12
schestowitzI guess the desktop has been used to promote the brand, among other thingsOct 04 11:13
schestowitzlike packaging formatsOct 04 11:13
schestowitzUbuntu is now used a lot where Debian used to be usedOct 04 11:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pceebee23: @AngusMacNeilSNP @schestowitz inevitable...now... little england lost in a myth of EmpireOct 04 11:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/783245277851451393Oct 04 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz yes it is, and one clearly cannot patent speech.Oct 04 11:17
schestowitzThere was a patent lawsuit over speech rec recently. High profile...Oct 04 11:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783249738791587840Oct 04 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @hintjens I want my villa!Oct 04 11:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 Looks like Homefront: The Revolution might be gearing upOct 04 11:45
TweetTuxMachines                 for a Linux release now https://t.co/NW7kQw2hH0Oct 04 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME From Scratch Project https://t.co/RvEyksG2cvOct 04 12:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right FirewallOct 04 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Distribution https://t.co/F2oohCNI6b (www.datamation.com)Oct 04 12:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building a Hardware Firewall: Pick the Best Distribution - DatamationOct 04 12:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783266800326811648Oct 04 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Scheduler Changes Published For The Linux 4.9 KernelOct 04 12:26
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TweetTuxMachines                 BFS Updated For Linux 4.8, To Be Succeeded By New MuQSSOct 04 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Scheduler https://t.co/j9Yxn7UYi1 (www.phoronix.com) "ConOct 04 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Kolivas...to premiere a new scheduler."Oct 04 13:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783267319887847424Oct 04 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 OverlayFS SELinux Support For Linux 4.9 KernelOct 04 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RNr30YLhY2 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 13:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282422788096001Oct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Everything you need to know about Android 7.1 Nougat andOct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 the Pixel Launcher  https://t.co/Q3wU1QqoYxOct 04 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282581487968256Oct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Why Android Fans Are Feeling Anxious Ahead of Google'sOct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Next Hardware Event https://t.co/XB8MFExneCOct 04 13:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | Why Android Fans Are Feeling Anxious Ahead of Google's Next Hardware Event | MotherboardOct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282857036963840Oct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 The Mi Box is officially launching today for $69Oct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mkXWklz5fF (www.androidpolice.com)Oct 04 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783284402486964224Oct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! Oct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2MKCdxn82C (balintreczey.hu)Oct 04 13:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-balintreczey.hu | Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! | Obsessed with realityOct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783284871108104193Oct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Create your own Tizen themes with the Tizen Theme EditorOct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/j7RbDe4AUT (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 04 13:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Create your own Tizen themes with the Tizen Theme Editor - Tizen ExpertsOct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783285094463201281Oct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Sysprof Plans for #gnome 3.24  https://t.co/KbiJDjUBIwOct 04 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286932826533888Oct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right FirewallOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Distribution https://t.co/8T5ivhKO0WOct 04 13:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right Firewall Distribution | Tux MachinesOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286934458109952Oct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 OSI Welcomes Powering Potential: Open Source AdvocatesOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Extending Education in Tanzania https://t.co/mssWewnztSOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 13:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSI Welcomes Powering Potential: Open Source Advocates Extending Education in Tanzania | Tux MachinesOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286935615746048Oct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/bjVKj6CeCrOct 04 13:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286936580468736Oct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/4nAkI22kOtOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 13:46
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel News https://t.co/KqyhyBQcNpOct 04 14:06
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7923062Oct 04 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Social [control] media does not punish people for racism, terror, 'trolling' etc. as it claims. Now even ciriticising religion or police is verboten?Oct 04 14:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783292183768080386Oct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones,Oct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more!Oct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kTM3d25XxB (techcrunch.com)Oct 04 15:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones, Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more! | TechCrunchOct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783293006094934016Oct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 AppData content ratings for games shipped in FedoraOct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/b5uwTrXvUU (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)Oct 04 15:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305810596159490Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Why health implants should have open source codeOct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/y98CJSxdBE (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 15:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why health implants should have open source code | Tux MachinesOct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305812672294913Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/gA9rcA07yWOct 04 15:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305813787938817Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora News https://t.co/1BUY6o04Ud (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 15:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305815721598981Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/Lw0BaasU9W (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 15:01
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKyErEjxiEOct 04 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iFhone 8 Commercial Leaked! - YouTubeOct 04 15:19
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MinceR(short-lived link) https://i.4cdn.org/b/1475569857122.webmOct 04 15:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305817109909505Oct 04 15:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian News https://t.co/Y9KrOeQPqx (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 15:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News | Tux MachinesOct 04 15:31
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schestowitzMinceR: 4chan?Oct 04 15:35
schestowitzseems like they'e going bust soonOct 04 15:35
MinceRindeedOct 04 15:35
MinceRafaik they jumped the shark long ago anywayOct 04 15:36
schestowitzit's funny, but offensive to most womenOct 04 15:38
schestowitzso I won't post itOct 04 15:38
MinceR:>Oct 04 15:41
MinceRthe link won't last more than a few hours anywayOct 04 15:41
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/tc5-1.jpgOct 04 15:50
MinceR(audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475545742389.webmOct 04 15:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/783311496298233856Oct 04 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: because it's well known all terrorists are unable to find £17.50 down the back of the sofa.... https://t.co/MxCQuSsrJPOct 04 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Let travellers pay £17.50 to beat queues at airport #security https://t.co/tUpXLHrKfq more proof that it really is security theaterOct 04 15:51
schestowitzMinceR: nice swingOct 04 15:54
schestowitzbad outcomeOct 04 15:54
MinceR:)Oct 04 15:54
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MinceR>"We are going to be a fully-independent, sovereign country, a country that is no longer part of a political union with supranational institutions that can override national parliaments and courts," she said to applause.Oct 04 15:58
MinceRoh, they're going to leave the Commonwealth and kick out the royal family? :>Oct 04 15:58
schestowitzHAhahahahahahaOct 04 15:59
razielle_tzulolOct 04 15:59
XRevan861Another thing I keep wondering about is "national".Oct 04 16:04
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MinceR"nation" is an idea invented to get people to gang up on other people, usually to kill them for the oppressors' profitOct 04 16:05
XRevan86I guess the thing here is classical "us" and "them": "them" Germans/French can't dictate "their" will on "us", Britains, lords, the queen, the peasants alike.Oct 04 16:08
XRevan86* BritonsOct 04 16:08
MinceRthe classic forgetting that "them" also includes UKOct 04 16:08
MinceRand of course trying to have their cake and eat it tooOct 04 16:09
MinceRi wonder what the EU people think about thatOct 04 16:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783313648068460544Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 "I just want to run a container!" https://t.co/iMTtd6HXpQOct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (jvns.ca)Oct 04 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783320852414750720Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 'Quadrilateral Cowboy' released for Linux, aOct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 single-player adventure in a cyberpunk worldOct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0oIh6Z1zQK (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 04 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323157805535232Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with ComprehensiveOct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Features https://t.co/6MtQHRuHfm (dot.kde.org)Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yYQMB8wc2V (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 16:11
XRevan86While common people today have much better chances of communicating with common people from other countries than with lords of their own.Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZRjcy023Ms (news.softpedia.com)Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with Comprehensive Features | KDE.newsOct 04 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Officially Released - PhoronixOct 04 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Celebrates Its 20th Anniversary with the Release of KDE Plasma 5.8 LTSOct 04 16:11
XRevan86and, obviously, share much more interests with them than with the "elite".Oct 04 16:12
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TsiqumPOct 04 16:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-People like to pretend there's nothing wrong with Eclipse. I don't. - ImgurOct 04 16:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JotsandTitters/status/783322617528750084Oct 04 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JotsandTitters: @schestowitz @wikileaks $$$ the key objectiveOct 04 16:20
schestowitz[16:09] <MinceR> i wonder what the EU people think about thatOct 04 16:21
schestowitzback to the 1970sOct 04 16:21
schestowitzI didn't vote for brexitOct 04 16:21
razielle_tzume neitherOct 04 16:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LaurelCatherine/status/783322765713637378Oct 04 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LaurelCatherine: Well us good guys won that skirmish but the rodents never cease their chewing thru at wall https://t.co/xxu947oWhgOct 04 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Federal Court Says Ballot Selfie Ban Is Like Burning Down the House to Roast a Pig https://t.co/YqVRnSbwoa good analogy?Oct 04 16:22
MinceRi mean, the people who call the shots in the EU, the people these brexiters will negotiate with to try and keep all the advantages of the deal while getting rid of all the disadvantagesOct 04 16:23
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/IUgHMDM.jpgOct 04 16:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323563046514689Oct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd is not Magic Security DustOct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pkcyMn9nUP (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 16:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust | Tux MachinesOct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323565420531714Oct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux RoutersOct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a227K7iCao (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux Routers | Tux MachinesOct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783324385998430210Oct 04 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 "In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet for Gentoo asOct 04 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 contributor to the youbroketheinternet-overlay."Oct 04 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lMvAggQOjH (gnunet.org)Oct 04 16:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnunet.org | GNUnet for Gentoo | GNUnetOct 04 16:44
schestowitzMinceR: niceOct 04 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783331749027807232Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI SupportOct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6v3yWusNSc (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI Support - PhoronixOct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783332235575517184Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - PhoronixOct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783334538462257152Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late ForOct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9 https://t.co/48iU37EdIT (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late For Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 04 16:56
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/iAZ7oFF.jpgOct 04 17:13
MinceRhttp://www.truthdig.com/report/item/7_questions_mike_pence_should_asked_vice_president_debate_20161004Oct 04 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here Are 7 Questions Mike Pence Should Be Asked at the Vice Presidential Debate - TruthdigOct 04 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342749571350530Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Tools Released https://t.co/N42hE1qDgYOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Tools Released | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342750980636672Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Graphics https://t.co/FOHY9CyoqJOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342751953727488Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For LinuxOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BX83lq8bPq (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342752985526273Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To UniversityOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Lawyers https://t.co/9lYvFIgMMV (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To University Lawyers | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:27
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MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/20sign-1-1.jpgOct 04 17:39
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/8sign-3-1.jpgOct 04 17:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342754168385536Oct 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQAOct 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tFlJk97AIl (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQA | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:51
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now...'Oct 04 17:51
schestowitzMinceR: https://twitter.com/mickaelistria/status/783349449586343936Oct 04 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mickaelistria: @schestowitz Yup, there's something wrong here... Can you please report it to https://t.co/HVNrbTJQGQ ?Oct 04 17:55
schestowitzMinceR: maybe they think I took this shotOct 04 17:56
MinceRlolOct 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783348773422587912Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCEOct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EyzSHDj5Eg (blog.lxde.org)Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lxde.org | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | LXDE BlogOct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783349420922433536Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For LinuxOct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iXpIozoAsu (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux - LinuxAndUbuntuOct 04 17:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/christianlawre2/status/783350068216602625Oct 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@christianlawre2: @schestowitz @wikileaks you worship hillary clinton. You don't know the truth, anymore. you think her lies are the truth and truth are lies.Oct 04 17:59
schestowitz:-)Oct 04 18:00
schestowitzCute.Oct 04 18:00
schestowitzI worship HRC :-)Oct 04 18:00
schestowitzI didn't know...Oct 04 18:00
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/xsIXZwR.jpgOct 04 18:21
schestowitzniceOct 04 18:27
schestowitzLinus spoke about the pressure thingOct 04 18:27
schestowitzafter he flew inside a fighter hetOct 04 18:27
schestowitz*jetOct 04 18:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783284882042564609Oct 04 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: My friend @hintjens pushed our meeting at the hospital to 5PM instead of noon. Shit, I wanted to say goodbye!Oct 04 18:32
MinceRhttps://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1h1cyg/whats_the_most_intellectual_joke_you_know/Oct 04 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's the most intellectual joke you know? : AskRedditOct 04 18:40
*TweetTuxMachines @Pyloris favourited '"In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet...'Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783352897673293825Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT https://t.co/wofTyAW9q6Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT • The RegisterOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362905378959364Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/LiYEqC58UzOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362906435883009Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDEOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/M0ifUoX8g3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDE | Tux MachinesOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362907581001728Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 System Administration https://t.co/CxzLmf3CyeOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System Administration | Tux MachinesOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362908575059969Oct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 LXDE Performance https://t.co/p73KPlil8eOct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXDE Performance | Tux MachinesOct 04 18:48
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/9HsBaOh.jpgOct 04 19:14
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/3sf36Eo.pngOct 04 19:15
XRevan86base AOct 04 19:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RayNeutrino/status/783368979280789506Oct 04 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RayNeutrino: Yes #JillStein is the only candidate supported by the efforts of the common people https://t.co/8se3usvAwpOct 04 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @DrJillStein @ajamubaraka That's because Greens are not funded by corporations and wealthy donors who expect silence in returnOct 04 19:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/783372052371681280Oct 04 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: In computing systems as in life systems, seems #diversity is #resilience; whereas #hegemony is #death: #sysvinit… https://t.co/7CDSdC5nfOOct 04 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: In computing systems as in life systems, seems #diversity is #resilience; whereas #hegemony is #death: #sysvinit… https://t.co/7CDSdC5nfOOct 04 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362909757812736Oct 04 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Evolving Your Open Source Project Infrastructure: There'sOct 04 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                 No Such Thing As Done https://t.co/naq1NbzzyOOct 04 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 19:57
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Evolving Your Open Source Project Infrastructure: There's No Such Thing As Done | Tux MachinesOct 04 19:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783378167666995200Oct 04 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim BurkeOct 04 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eUBzhPctUL (error)Oct 04 20:01
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIREROct 04 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783379531256176640Oct 04 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked byOct 04 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 retailer https://t.co/yfAg09JsmLOct 04 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Oct 04 20:01
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked by retailer - Android AuthorityOct 04 20:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783381570321207296Oct 04 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @schestowitz @wikileaks Considering,,, https://t.co/4cHeSHZ3EnOct 04 20:05
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/gg924kf.jpgOct 04 20:07
TweetTuxMachines@ender74dev      http://twitter.com/ender74dev/status/783380513314729985Oct 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Software in a Box Daily wurde soeben publiziert!Oct 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7LyUUxxLJS (paper.li) Vielen Dank anOct 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 @aronchick @krmayank @tuxmachines #kubernetes #cloudOct 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Software in a Box DailyOct 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/JJonthewing/status/783380850046099457Oct 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Full Google Pixel and Pixel XL specifications leaked byOct 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines @JJonthewing    retailer https://t.co/yfAg09JsmLOct 04 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Oct 04 20:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArnoldDuendis/status/783387053820039168Oct 04 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation.Oct 04 20:30
schestowitzhmmm.Oct 04 20:31
schestowitztoo extremeOct 04 20:31
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/one-wish-3Oct 04 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - One WishOct 04 20:43
MinceR04 213058 -TechrightsBot-tr:#techrights- @ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation.Oct 04 20:43
MinceREXTERMINATE ALL HUMANSOct 04 20:43
XRevan86SEEK, LOCATE, DESTROYOct 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783385383631515648Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines                 3 Android phones that offer long battery lifeOct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/25B3rOhZgK (www.infoworld.com)Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Android phones that offer long battery life | InfoWorldOct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/783392513428168705Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - PhoronixOct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783398426641915904Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel andOct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401711486369793Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Linux Foundation https://t.co/m8A7JAqtUgOct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | TechrightsOct 04 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Linux Foundation | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401712857944064Oct 04 21:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Distros News https://t.co/aJRdIVXYmvOct 04 21:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:22
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros News | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:22
schestowitzXRevan86: sounds like Captain America: Winter SoldierOct 04 21:26
XRevan86schestowitz: That's from Doctor Who :).Oct 04 21:27
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/legLOTd.jpgOct 04 21:28
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/nihEOtwOct 04 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I do really need drivers for my undefined Something MSI! - GIF on ImgurOct 04 21:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401714284015616Oct 04 21:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupterOct 04 21:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IrVWIsDeiQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupter | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401715315814400Oct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 What CIOs need to know about open source forkingOct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RUubkESjAe (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What CIOs need to know about open source forking | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401716481859584Oct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 ReleasedOct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hH6deM3wQH (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:55
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/3WWuEUz.jpgOct 04 22:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @INQ favourited 'Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke https://t.co/eUBzhPctUL'Oct 04 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIREROct 04 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783421228845441024Oct 04 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04Oct 04 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/M1dWVi5Wie (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 22:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 | Tux MachinesOct 04 22:59
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/783395668421378048Oct 04 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz c'mon-one senior judge with no business experience nor extensive technology background-baying at the moonOct 04 23:36
schestowitzXRevan86: ah, OK, I'm not into it, never wasOct 04 23:36
XRevan86schestowitz: It's pretty good.Oct 04 23:37
XRevan86Both classical and current.Oct 04 23:37
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/H9vFsZG.gifvOct 04 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | 9Oct 04 23:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783417084852117505Oct 04 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @TN_Conservative @schestowitz @wikileaks Good Luck ,,, https://t.co/LM6sbj8O3QOct 04 23:41
schestowitzLOL, MinceR https://twitter.com/RoyCohnsGhost/status/783260634725113856Oct 04 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RoyCohnsGhost: @JimBertido @wikileaks Bill doesn't have to hide out in an embassy to avoid his accusers. https://t.co/5RCmb1EMtMOct 04 23:42
schestowitzfunny.Oct 04 23:42
schestowitznails itOct 04 23:42
MinceRgood for himOct 04 23:42
schestowitzbut the sculptures I saw had a small oneOct 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783426190581391360Oct 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel andOct 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5Oct 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Oct 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | TechrightsOct 04 23:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783434239136108544Oct 04 23:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwluOct 04 23:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 23:49
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 04 23:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438717092564992Oct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Android Phone Under $900 https://t.co/ITHBaxtYs3Oct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 04 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone Under $900 | Android CentralOct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438892808728576Oct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Android Phone With Removable BatteryOct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CbSj96EQqX (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone With Removable Battery | Android CentralOct 04 23:52
cubexyzok, I had some time so I was able to do some updatesOct 05 00:14
cubexyza historical look at filesystemsOct 05 00:15
razielle_tzucoolOct 05 00:15
cubexyzhttp://maxhost.org/other/comparison-different-os-df.txtOct 05 00:15
cubexyzgot some ideas for updating the df commandOct 05 00:15
cubexyzthe documentation for very old Unix is a bit deficientOct 05 00:19
cubexyzit assumes you know a lotOct 05 00:20
razielle_tzuback then wouldn't that be true?Oct 05 00:20
cubexyzdefinitely yesOct 05 00:20
cubexyzstill, I feel I should try to improve itOct 05 00:20
razielle_tzui'm not saying you shouldn'tOct 05 00:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783439704968536064Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwluOct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441578656428033Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 ReleasedOct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XqjoQum5Uk (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released - Tizen ExpertsOct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441771925766148Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines                 An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FrGvay6NVm (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 « Everyday Linux UserOct 05 00:23
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/mV5NrEC.jpgOct 05 00:27
cubexyzI have to load-balance the Unix v5 filesOct 05 00:28
cubexyzgot some ideas for future updates...Oct 05 00:29
cubexyzport some sort of file compression utility for v5Oct 05 00:30
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cubexyzthe old DEC RK05 hard drive system was limited to 2.5 megs per driveOct 05 00:35
cubexyzso one has to be a bit economical with disk usageOct 05 00:36
razielle_tzujust a bitOct 05 00:36
cubexyzmy original amiga hard drive was also pretty smallOct 05 00:42
cubexyz49 megsOct 05 00:42
cubexyzseagate ST-157NOct 05 00:43
cubexyzstill, going from a single 880K floppy to 49 megs was a big differenceOct 05 00:44
razielle_tzuyeahOct 05 00:44
razielle_tzui can't remember the size of my first amiga hddOct 05 00:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783455238015496193Oct 05 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: Just discovered my honest and personal post about quitting has been grossly twisted by @schestowitz. Not happy. https://t.co/g1i2CkfXgpOct 05 00:55
schestowitzhahaOct 05 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Alice/Section 101 Still Spelling Doom for Proponents of Software Patents, Including Some Patent Law Firms | TechrightsOct 05 00:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783453965673304065  https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454095386435585Oct 05 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz No, but I have now, and you have grossly misrepresented my position.Oct 05 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz I am *not* going back to software development. That comment you quote was sarcastic and snide (and I responded to it).Oct 05 00:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454450241241088   https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454624598470656Oct 05 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz My decision is personal and does *not* reflect any 'layoffs' or 'shutdowns'. Your inference is harmful to my employer.Oct 05 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And I vehemently resent your suggestion that I (or anyone else) is, or has been, in the business of lying to clients.Oct 05 00:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454746690461696Oct 05 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz If your reading comprehension skills are so poor, maybe you should not be in the business of writing.Oct 05 00:56
razielle_tzulolOct 05 00:56
schestowitzyou did promote software patents a lot. This, to me, is dishonest.Oct 05 00:56
schestowitz-meOct 05 00:57
schestowitzhe's not happy about the critical slantOct 05 00:57
razielle_tzuevidentlyOct 05 00:58
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cubexyzI'm going to augment the ps command as wellOct 05 01:01
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TweetTuxMachines                 Become an undead assassion in 'Aragami', now availableOct 05 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 with day-1 Linux support and some thoughts from meOct 05 01:02
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME 3.24 Release Schedule Now  https://t.co/EQozuek6h4Oct 05 01:02
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TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The DesktopOct 05 01:02
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schestowitzrazielle_tzu: it's ok if they dislike meOct 05 01:03
schestowitzthey're supposed toOct 05 01:03
schestowitzotherwise I fail to counter themOct 05 01:03
razielle_tzutrueOct 05 01:03
schestowitzbut I'm fine with that, I heard from some people they won't say those things for fear of insulting or alienating themOct 05 01:03
schestowitzbut someone needs to do it, and what I said was actually trueOct 05 01:03
schestowitzthey're nervous over death of swpats at the momentOct 05 01:03
razielle_tzuso they should beOct 05 01:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457175863644160 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457450372374529Oct 05 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz Holding views that differ from yours is 'dishonest'? No, it isn't. And you have no idea how & on what basis I advise clients.Oct 05 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz While I may not agree with you, I've always viewed you as fair and principled. Apparently I was wrong. Show some respect.Oct 05 01:05
schestowitzNo, he never viewed me like thatOct 05 01:05
schestowitzhe knew where I stoofOct 05 01:05
schestowitz*stoodOct 05 01:05
cubexyzis this Mr. Solve the web page? :)Oct 05 01:06
cubexyzoh well, it doesn't matterOct 05 01:09
cubexyzthe tone seemed the sameOct 05 01:10
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TweetTuxMachines                 Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux KernelOct 05 01:10
TweetTuxMachines                 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22  https://t.co/PJ5mZzZ6RXOct 05 01:10
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cubexyzalmost as obtuse as Ted StevensOct 05 01:12
cubexyzit's not a big truck you know!Oct 05 01:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783458633027760128Oct 05 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And, don't worry, I will continue to 'promote' software patents, even without a financial interest.Oct 05 01:14
schestowitzhahaOct 05 01:14
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/c6OmW3sOct 05 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Maps now has functionality that allows you to mimic the swerving of a drunk driver. - ImgurOct 05 01:17
MinceRan honorable villain, willing to fight to destroy the world even if there's nothing in it for him!Oct 05 01:18
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MinceR> anon@anon:~> grep couric /usr/share/units.datOct 05 02:10
MinceR> couric                  2.5 pounds feces  # official unit of measurement of fecal samples, per: http://www.efsmi.org/?ref=efsmi.euOct 05 02:10
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MinceR> kouric                  couricOct 05 02:10
MinceR> trump                   79.366 couric  # per: http://www.howtallis.org/donald-trump-height-weight-shoe-size/Oct 05 02:10
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TweetTuxMachines                 Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxConOct 05 04:23
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DaemonFChttp://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/Oct 05 05:18
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DaemonFChttp://hothardware.com/news/windows-10-anniversary-update-sending-users-reboot-loop-hellOct 05 06:23
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DaemonFChttp://www.pcworld.com/article/3123153/windows/more-than-half-of-pcs-dont-have-windows-10-au-yet-and-no-ones-quite-sure-why.htmlOct 05 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More than half of PCs don't have Windows 10 AU yet, and no one's quite sure why | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pudm3 ]Oct 05 06:24
DaemonFChttp://www.komando.com/happening-now/350765/busted-the-reason-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-you-think/allOct 05 06:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Busted! The reason Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | One Page | Komando...Oct 05 06:29
DaemonFC"The big problem Apple will have going forward is that Mac security entirely depends on a single defense called GateKeeper. GateKeeper only lets programs install if they have an approval certificate from Apple.Oct 05 06:30
DaemonFCThat means GateKeeper will stop you downloading and installing a random virus off the Internet. However, its weakness is that once a program has approval from Apple, it trusts that it's always going to be good.Oct 05 06:30
DaemonFCIn the ransomware attack from last week, hackers broke into the website of the Transmission BitTorrent client and replace the legitimate download with a version that included malicious code. GateKeeper just let the infected program install with no fuss."Oct 05 06:30
DaemonFCThe article is mostly an ad for Kaspersky Antivirus though.Oct 05 06:31
DaemonFChttp://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/03/18/busted-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-think.htmlOct 05 06:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Busted! Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/pudno ]Oct 05 06:31
DaemonFCFox News basically copied it and replaced the ad for Kaspersky with advice to get an antivirus program.Oct 05 06:32
DaemonFCschestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business.Oct 05 06:36
DaemonFCThey had about 200 systems. 150 ran Linux and 50 ran Windows. The BSA found out that some copies of Windows weren't licensed, so they tried to force a settlement on the company that involved wiping out the 150 Linux systems and installing a licensed copy of Windows on all 200.Oct 05 06:37
DaemonFCHe said that negotiations went on for months and he left the company and never did find out what happened.Oct 05 06:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux SupportsOct 05 09:22
TweetTuxMachines                 the New, Longer Tweets https://t.co/4T4WV6sWpJOct 05 09:22
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schestowitz[06:36] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business.Oct 05 09:35
schestowitzI want to see it, but he's gone nowOct 05 09:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783586943959494656Oct 05 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @patentology unfortunately @schestowitz sees a conspiracy everywhere he looks. So even when he is right he is wrong.Oct 05 09:38
schestowitzhaha, says the patent industryOct 05 09:38
schestowitzas if Bristows at al inside IP Kat is not a fact. Among other things...Oct 05 09:39
schestowitzyou are actually among the most balanced of the bunch (Nicola too). Mark S-F was always very overt pro #swpatsOct 05 09:40
schestowitz(just told himOct 05 09:40
schestowitz)Oct 05 09:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783588013880279040Oct 05 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @schestowitz yes it is shocking isn't it. IP law blog run by some people working in IP law firms. Must be suspicious @patentologyOct 05 09:43
schestowitzPushing their financial agenda, yes. Like blog on energy/environment run by Exxon staffOct 05 09:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EIP_Elements/status/783588843580690432Oct 05 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EIP_Elements: @schestowitz I don't know what you base this on. Probably that I am a chemist. So computers not really my field. @patentologyOct 05 09:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783589724887785472Oct 05 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz @EIP_Elements Well, now I've quit you're going to have to find some other BS explanation for why I don't just agree with you.Oct 05 10:01
schestowitz#swpats become like a 'religion' when one lives inside this echo chamber.Maybe you'll get exposed to other viewsOct 05 10:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sweet5hark/status/783597133333164032Oct 05 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sweet5hark: @schestowitz https://t.co/dh4pMktltb <- more ex-Sun OOo folks at LibreOffice now than ever had been on that other fork ...Oct 05 10:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783583056951144448Oct 05 10:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 Vista 10 Woes https://t.co/neld7brS3YOct 05 10:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 This Man Is Explaining Google’s Hardware Bet to AndroidOct 05 10:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Man Is Explaining Google’s Hardware Bet to Android Partners - BloombergOct 05 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Xiaomi’s $69 4K Android TV box arrives in the USOct 05 10:44
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TweetTuxMachines                 docker-selinux changed to container-selinuxOct 05 10:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783601928035045376Oct 05 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Google Pixel makes a bid for Android historyOct 05 10:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 security things in Linux v4.8 https://t.co/79jOSL8JGAOct 05 11:01
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8Oct 05 11:01
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TweetTuxMachines                 Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs NowOct 05 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDEOct 05 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610514542690304Oct 05 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone?Oct 05 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines                 Study: open source groups take security seriousOct 05 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783610518682546176Oct 05 11:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs Now http://time.com/4518365/google-pixel-xl-apple-iphone-android/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/04/a-look-back-at-googles-android-flagships-the-nexus-family/Oct 05 11:30
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schestowitz"I fail to see any enthusiasm about that. Apple jail vs Google jaill? I can’t see the difference of the merits in that."Oct 05 11:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616000969347072Oct 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub and 25 sensorOct 05 11:33
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TweetTuxMachines                 alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the WindowsOct 05 11:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/xcrLzGuu6hOct 05 11:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616532228239360Oct 05 11:36
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux DistrosOct 05 11:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File ManagerOct 05 11:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Brings Many New Features https://t.co/eDCLJqeVF4Oct 05 11:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxConOct 05 11:40
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TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDEOct 05 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617914217857024Oct 05 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone?Oct 05 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783619309998399488Oct 05 11:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Mad Max to release on 20th of October for Linux &Oct 05 11:48
TweetTuxMachines                 SteamOS, being ported by Feral InteractiveOct 05 11:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783619733115535360Oct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 "The Mad Max game is being released for Linux later thisOct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 month on 20 October." https://t.co/m74rinjGrOOct 05 11:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mad Max Coming To Linux, NVIDIA Graphics Supported - PhoronixOct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783620238847971329Oct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of HeroesOct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 10th Anniversary Bundle https://t.co/2WJ1n7hAvcOct 05 11:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/opendna/status/783628484363087872Oct 05 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@opendna: Related: publicly traded companies which list "goodwill" as an asset on the balance sheet. https://t.co/yMOkVZCP0NOct 05 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How many companies out there have imaginary/intangible perceived value that's basically just a bubble like #swpats ? What happens next?Oct 05 12:33
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TweetTuxMachines                 Beta 3 Release Updates FireFox, KDE Applications,Oct 05 12:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortageOct 05 12:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Goofy_fr/status/783641553826934784Oct 05 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Goofy_fr: Vous voulez travailler dans l'informatique, trouver un boulot bien payé et intéressant, choisissez l'open source ! https://t.co/63htfplZ3fOct 05 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It's good to be an open source pro in Europe https://t.co/ZzB1TwqJuT #freeswOct 05 13:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GeorgeAnders/status/783648378580152321Oct 05 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GeorgeAnders: @schestowitz Cars used to play that function. But who drives anymore!?Oct 05 13:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783651297807433728Oct 05 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Just closed mine, never used it anyway... :)Oct 05 13:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GreensforJill/status/783651762767007744Oct 05 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreensforJill: @dodrty @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka Yes. Military experience is invaluable to any President. 🌻Oct 05 13:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dodrty/status/783652765377581061Oct 05 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dodrty: @GreensforJill @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka well, it damn sure wouldn't do DJT any freaking good!Oct 05 14:00
schestowitzsome people closing their accounts at yahoo todayOct 05 14:00
schestowitzand talking about those stupid VP debates..Oct 05 14:01
MinceR(shortlived, audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475619161631.webmOct 05 14:07
razielle_tzuof course they're talking about the debatesOct 05 14:25
MinceRhttp://www.theonion.com/graphic/jurisprudence-fetishist-gets-off-on-technicality-9063Oct 05 14:31
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schestowitzMinceR: excellent!Oct 05 14:39
MinceR< anon> tories have unveiled new uk flag - http://i.imgur.com/HqCYSZi.jpgOct 05 15:20
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cubexyzok, you can criticize the newer versions of firefox, but chrome is also a cpu hogOct 05 15:35
MinceRgood thing i have Pale Moon and linkxOct 05 15:36
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cubexyzyeah, my openbsd system uses far less cpuOct 05 15:43
cubexyzbut it's not a fair comparison reallyOct 05 15:43
cubexyzthe openbsd box has 256 megs of ram, so I don't bother running chrome or firefox on itOct 05 15:43
cubexyzand another deficiency is one doesn't have fine control over what firefox/chrome doesOct 05 15:44
cubexyzif I kill a chrome/ff process the whole thing exitsOct 05 15:44
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/3FEPvbx.jpgOct 05 15:52
cubexyzoooo burn:Oct 05 16:02
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/illegal-immigrant.jpgOct 05 16:03
MinceR:)Oct 05 16:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783634098057256960Oct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux: The free operating system alternative that changedOct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 computing  https://t.co/Es6uM3PDHX (home.bt.com)Oct 05 16:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-home.bt.com | What is Linux? - BTOct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783662895657869312Oct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming ToOct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux https://t.co/D8sh8V5z0U (techrights.org)Oct 05 16:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691249077227520Oct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 It's good to be an open source pro in EuropeOct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NHknZl61tY (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 16:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It's good to be an open source pro in Europe | Tux MachinesOct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691250171977728Oct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/DEF5p1H7exOct 05 16:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691251182739456Oct 05 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/ifNAnY0VKoOct 05 16:32
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/S9MW7qm.jpgOct 05 17:19
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d1yDCWicf0Oct 05 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Instrument that produces sound in horror movies! - YouTubeOct 05 17:41
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cubexyzthat guy is missing the pointOct 05 17:56
cubexyzSpurlock was getting the "Super Size" meals when it was offeredOct 05 17:57
cubexyzMcDonalds was pushing the super size stuffOct 05 17:57
cubexyzand Spurlock did exercise.. 5,000 distance steps per dayOct 05 17:58
cubexyzthe "average" amountOct 05 17:58
cubexyzif you were to eat a steady diet of that stuff you'd be unhealthyOct 05 17:59
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cubexyzCisna is flat out wrongOct 05 18:02
cubexyzsure, if you burn up more calories that you injest you will lose weightOct 05 18:03
cubexyza lot of the weight gain since the 1980s was due to high-fructose corn syrupOct 05 18:04
cubexyzCisna was merely McDonalds sock puppetOct 05 18:05
cubexyzso yes, if you have a whole team of people scrunitizing the entire McDonalds menu and making the healthiest possible choices, drinking water and not pop and exercising a ton, yes you can lose weight eating at McDonaldsOct 05 18:07
cubexyzbut what will the average person do eating at McDonalds?Oct 05 18:07
cubexyzlet's look at a quarter pounder with cheese as an exampleOct 05 18:09
cubexyztotal fat 20 gramsOct 05 18:09
cubexyztrans fat 1.2 gramsOct 05 18:09
cubexyzsodium 730 mgOct 05 18:09
cubexyzsugar 9 gramsOct 05 18:09
cubexyzcalories 417 Oct 05 18:09
cubexyzso we can safely disgard the faux-documentary by John CisnaOct 05 18:11
cubexyzlearn to cook :)Oct 05 18:13
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MinceRso if you don't eat at McD, stuff yourself and don't move, you won't get fat?Oct 05 19:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691252176859138Oct 05 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source Pros Confident in Europe Job MarketOct 05 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TK1O69OK1p (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 19:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Pros Confident in Europe Job Market | Tux MachinesOct 05 19:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783691253250527233Oct 05 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortageOct 05 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/b8eAOtQLV9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 19:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortage | Tux MachinesOct 05 19:28
cubexyzCisna is a nutbar, that was my pointOct 05 19:38
cubexyzhe's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's dietOct 05 19:38
cubexyzsure, you can cut calories and lose weight even if those calories don't have a much nutritionOct 05 19:40
cubexyzbut it's not healthyOct 05 19:40
cubexyzif you take in more calories than you use, you will gain weightOct 05 19:41
cubexyzemphasing McDonalds as a way to lose weight is stupidOct 05 19:41
schestowitz[19:38] <cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's dietOct 05 19:41
schestowitzNever heard of jimOct 05 19:42
schestowitzsounds like a toolOct 05 19:42
schestowitzburgers in a bun are no balanced dietyOct 05 19:42
schestowitz(dietOct 05 19:42
cubexyzright, it's obviously a bad ideaOct 05 19:42
schestowitzthey're not the worstOct 05 19:42
cubexyzprobably pringles is the worst, or some other chipsOct 05 19:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PopoZao69/status/783729784509444097Oct 05 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PopoZao69: @DocMellyMel @GreenPartyUS @CalStateLA Please please please ask @DrJillStein about her thoughts on Harambe! #RIPHarambeOct 05 19:44
schestowitzshe already posted those Oct 05 19:44
cubexyzCisna is from Iowa, so you may not have heard much about himOct 05 19:45
cubexyzhe choices at McDonalds actually weren't bad... he was eating the healthiest possible choices on the mcdonalds menuOct 05 19:47
cubexyzthere's another guy who did something similarOct 05 19:50
cubexyzMark Haub lost 27 pounds in 10 weeks eating twinkies and other junkOct 05 19:50
cubexyzso he restricted his calories to 1,800 per day and took multi-vitamins and ate vegetablesOct 05 19:51
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cubexyzhere's a good counter-argument:Oct 05 19:56
cubexyzhttp://listovative.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-not-eat-food-at-mcdonalds/Oct 05 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Reasons why you should not eat Food at McDonalds - Listovative [ http://ur1.ca/puhq7 ]Oct 05 19:56
schestowitzta for the linkOct 05 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783735551572709377Oct 05 20:05
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TweetTuxMachines                 My triumph in Rocket League and why you need to own it onOct 05 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/hT1UsUosyJ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 05 20:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ewOct 05 20:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783743074962927617Oct 05 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Apricity: Slip Into Something More ComfortableOct 05 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ngQ93NizD1 (www.linuxinsider.com)Oct 05 20:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apricity: Slip Into Something More Comfortable | Reviews | LinuxInsiderOct 05 20:24
cubexyzMIcrosoft vice president Paul Maritz describing microsoft's strategy vs netscape, java and the internet:Oct 05 20:28
cubexyz"embrace, extend and extinguish"Oct 05 20:28
cubexyzdidn't work thoughOct 05 20:29
cubexyzthere's some balkanizing of courseOct 05 20:30
cubexyzI believe the current term is 'splinternet'Oct 05 20:30
cubexyzgoogle android uses google (naturally)Oct 05 20:31
cubexyzblackberry defaulted to bingOct 05 20:32
cubexyziphone doesn't use flashOct 05 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783749770552672256Oct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu on Intel Atom mini PCs (Linuxium’s builds for BayOct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Trail and Cherry Trail computers) https://t.co/nR2ibXh5BlOct 05 20:33
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cubexyzthe doomsday scenario I feared... that microsoft would take over everything, didn't happenOct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783750239668858880Oct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 [Early Access] Sailfish OS FiskarsinjokiOct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NRTVKx8Fg1 (blog.jolla.com)Oct 05 20:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | [Early Access] Sailfish OS Fiskarsinjoki | Jolla BlogOct 05 20:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783751140039163904Oct 05 20:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Trying Out The Experimental Unity 8 Session On UbuntuOct 05 20:34
TweetTuxMachines                 16.10 https://t.co/llRM8xR0iD (www.phoronix.com)Oct 05 20:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trying Out The Experimental Unity 8 Session On Ubuntu 16.10 - PhoronixOct 05 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 FUSE Supports POSIX ACLs In Linux 4.9Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UOXFBPiYA6 (www.phoronix.com) Staging UpdateOct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 For Linux 4.9 https://t.co/DUzA3h9NnU (www.phoronix.com)Oct 05 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FUSE Supports POSIX ACLs In Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 05 20:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754086843809792Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell XPS 13 laptops with Kaby Lake now available for $800Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 and up (Windows and Ubuntu options)Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BAIFQuhbVZ (liliputing.com)Oct 05 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dell XPS 13 laptops with Kaby Lake now available for $800 and up (Windows and Ubuntu options) - LiliputingOct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754474653384706Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu, enterprise containerOct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 portfolio expands https://t.co/5ho6RWOhhzOct 05 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu, enterprise container portfolio expands - Open Source InsiderOct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754626524934145Oct 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Unity 8 Desktop Session Arrives in Ubuntu 16.10Oct 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8FgCXRaAaX (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 05 20:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Unity 8 Desktop Session Arrives in Ubuntu 16.10 - OMG! Ubuntu!Oct 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783755319025528832Oct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Happy 25th once again to Linux, ‘the little OS thatOct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 definitely could’ https://t.co/JRm8vIBzsCOct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.idg.com.au)Oct 05 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.idg.com.au | Happy 25th once again to Linux, 'the little OS that definitely could' - PC World AustraliaOct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756149308915713Oct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition now available with UbuntuOct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Intel Kaby Lake CPU https://t.co/pmn9anNuB1Oct 05 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition now available with Ubuntu Linux and Intel Kaby Lake CPUOct 05 20:52
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schestowitzhttp://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2340.htmlOct 05 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... The Internet of ransomware things!Oct 05 21:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756572707196932Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots,Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Video) https://t.co/ojEa6MEnCx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) ...Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pvGouaGBFS (joindiaspora.com)Oct 05 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/hands-unity-8-ubuntu-16-10-screenshot-tourHands )Oct 05 21:55
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10...'Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756606626562052Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots,Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Video) https://t.co/m7zMIpEazQ (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 05 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Hands On With Unity 8 in Ubuntu 16.10 - OMG! Ubuntu!Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772652099907584Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Graphics https://t.co/6seYjwGxCmOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux MachinesOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772653572141056Oct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, KubernetesOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 on Canonical Ubuntu https://t.co/H9v6iCBMWvOct 05 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu | Tux MachinesOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772654591283200Oct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/eNoLJACqr1Oct 05 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772655635668992Oct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Mad Max for GNU/Linux https://t.co/l7HNEY43UsOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mad Max for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 05 21:56
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MinceR05 203859 < cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's dietOct 05 22:20
MinceRlolOct 05 22:20
MinceRthat's pretty nuttyOct 05 22:20
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/XTqYah2.gifvOct 05 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLEOct 05 22:23
MinceRhttps://magyarchan.net/boards/b/image/1475/70/14757021789774.pngOct 05 22:24
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schestowitzPieter Hintjens's Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On http://techrights.org/2016/10/05/pieter-hintjens-swpats/Oct 05 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pieter Hintjens’s Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/puihw ]Oct 05 22:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/783782530487123968Oct 05 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz Thank you, my online friend.Oct 05 22:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/taotetek/status/783783812807401472Oct 05 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@taotetek: @schestowitz thank you so much for writing this.Oct 05 22:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783785669604831232Oct 05 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Same here :DOct 05 22:49
schestowitzrianne is waiting for new articlesOct 05 22:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783786499082973184Oct 05 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz They are coming as we speak :)Oct 05 22:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fnkbnr/status/783789576808697856Oct 05 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fnkbnr: .@schestowitz They might not be "lying" but are forced to so. Question: Would that be legal. Which law would make this possible?Oct 05 23:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772656868859904Oct 05 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel Headlines https://t.co/B1PFthUhKLOct 05 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 23:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Headlines | Tux MachinesOct 05 23:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783793178209955840Oct 06 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional UnityOct 06 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 8 Session After All https://t.co/g4R1E48ItfOct 06 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity 8 Session After All | Tux MachinesOct 06 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783793179388555264Oct 06 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE PlasmaOct 06 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 https://t.co/keWzcyvvL7Oct 06 00:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 | Tux MachinesOct 06 00:17
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7931392Oct 06 02:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wow, what a headline. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2473084/torvalds-finds-a-bug-in-stable-linux-kernel-48-and-goes-apeshit #torvalds #linuxOct 06 02:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theinquirer.net | Torvalds finds a bug in stable Linux Kernel 4.8 and goes apeshit | TheINQUIREROct 06 02:14
schestowitz"Oct 06 02:14
schestowitz<cynicism> Remember: Don’t fix Bugs, instead of fixing Bugs lets bash Linus </cynicism>Oct 06 02:14
schestowitzlet me guess: NSA/CIA HUMINT Action against Linus, so that he has less time to fix bugs? [1]Oct 06 02:14
schestowitz"Oct 06 02:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/camo/fea92a7bd0f8f260485835abbbbe49a681bb3bc0/687474703a2f2f6d6172636c616e646f6c742e63682f696d672f6c696e75782e706e67Oct 06 02:15
schestowitz"[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILAlhwUgIU#t=40m14s (40:14)"Oct 06 02:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jacob Applebaum: To Protect And Infect, Part 2 [30c3] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pujfg ]Oct 06 02:15
MinceRlooks more like just enjoying the showOct 06 02:15
cubexyz"Linus not going apeshit after finding bug" would be more surprising :)Oct 06 02:15
schestowitz"Oct 06 02:15
schestowitzor let’s exlain it a bit more childishOct 06 02:15
schestowitzBender = NSA/CIAOct 06 02:15
schestowitzFry = LinuxOct 06 02:15
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sj4Simru28Oct 06 02:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Futurama chess. Bender cheats. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pujfj ]Oct 06 02:15
MinceRdoes Linus really care what people say about what he said?Oct 06 02:15
schestowitz'Oct 06 02:15
schestowitzNicely put, if not sarcasticOct 06 02:15
schestowitzyesOct 06 02:16
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/linus-gives-win7-bsod-thumbs-up.jpgOct 06 02:17
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-up-for-bsod.jpgOct 06 02:26
cubexyzan old school CRT BSOD :)Oct 06 02:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783819801135308800Oct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/dELC5GNFWlOct 06 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783832583025008640Oct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/Dn7CNaRpZeOct 06 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849855907094528Oct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final DebianOct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/0RcRGSxI7ZOct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849856917917696Oct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi styleOct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 expansion https://t.co/40VVEmMGn7 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style expansion | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849857932898304Oct 06 03:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend &Oct 06 03:03
TweetTuxMachines                 K12 Capture File Support https://t.co/etU4tgv7lmOct 06 03:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & K12 Capture File Support | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849859010867200Oct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Google releases open source 'Cartographer'Oct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cm9sUJvYKf (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 03:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google releases open source 'Cartographer' | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849860038483968Oct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD HybridOct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/THXHoi9z97Oct 06 03:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration Support Coming Soon | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:05
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DaemonFCSo we voted today.Oct 06 04:08
DaemonFCI did split my ballot.Oct 06 04:08
DaemonFCI voted for some Greens when it was that and Democrats. :POct 06 04:08
DaemonFCBut that was only for the water reclamation board.Oct 06 04:08
DaemonFCThey're doing that Deep Tunnel project that's been going on since the 70s.Oct 06 04:09
DaemonFCI'm sure it's wasted plenty of money by now.Oct 06 04:09
DaemonFChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_us_57f53b9be4b002a7312022efOct 06 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Mike Pence's Defining Moment As Governor? Enabling An HIV Outbreak | Huffington PostOct 06 04:50
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DaemonFCI'm happy. I got to vote to eliminate a useless government office and save taxpayers $800,000 a year.Oct 06 05:32
DaemonFCTurns out there's a Cook County recorder and the Clerk's office and they both do similar things.Oct 06 05:32
DaemonFCSo I voted to eliminate the recorder's office.Oct 06 05:33
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schestowitzSebthreeBQM10HD: morning...Oct 06 09:24
SebthreeBQM10HDschestowitz morningOct 06 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783946387360710656Oct 06 09:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional UnityOct 06 09:27
TweetTuxMachines                 8 Session After All https://t.co/rYyTWbRLDeOct 06 09:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional Unity 8 Session After AllOct 06 09:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783946674347642881Oct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE PlasmaOct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 https://t.co/WLRTGSUpGUOct 06 09:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE Plasma 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4Oct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783948201825079296Oct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with OtherOct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Distributions https://t.co/L0uYZaQtytOct 06 09:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with Other GNU/Linux DistributionsOct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783948477554458624Oct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final DebianOct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/dAVAgh7OSDOct 06 09:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian Linux 9 "Stretch" ArtworkOct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783948727245496320Oct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi styleOct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 expansion https://t.co/iP3mS9utb3 (hackerboards.com)Oct 06 09:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783949021350072320Oct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend &Oct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 K12 Capture File Support https://t.co/zcstDdotnoOct 06 09:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & K12 Capture File SupportOct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783949442525368320Oct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD HybridOct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/7auTNXKDWYOct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration Support Coming Soon - ExclusiveOct 06 09:40
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schestowitzDanish Financial Supervisory Authority (FSA) will be covered later this morning in Techrights...Oct 06 10:28
schestowitz> Thanks for the heads up.  I'll read it and likely forward it to someOct 06 10:34
schestowitz> friends in Denmark.  One fellow I worked with had his PhD delayed a yearOct 06 10:35
schestowitz> or so while the administrators and businesses fought over the softwareOct 06 10:35
schestowitz> patents.  He couldn't publish while that was going on and withoutOct 06 10:35
schestowitz> publishing the dissertation, he could not be awarded his PhD.Oct 06 10:35
schestowitzpublishableOct 06 11:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783950014624169984Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/eAmvdlHc16Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak)Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783951027858993152Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/WuOhBJX3hUOct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) | Tux MachinesOct 06 11:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings...'Oct 06 11:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice...'Oct 06 11:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend &...'Oct 06 11:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu...'Oct 06 11:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu...'Oct 06 11:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an...'Oct 06 11:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration...'Oct 06 11:20
schestowitz"Yeah, it's on the Intranet, so everyone would have seen it."Oct 06 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998181084426244Oct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demosOct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/v6CVzdlm2X (thenextweb.com)Oct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demosOct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998390925422592Oct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking byOct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 releasing its Pixel smartphone https://t.co/WtYQzMCFBKOct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.cnbc.com)Oct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking by releasing its Pixel smartphoneOct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998823181975552Oct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora meeting summary https://t.co/DvSKS1paieOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (ankursinha.in)Oct 06 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Join Meeting 26 September 2016 - Summary - ankursinha.in/blogOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783999531964887040Oct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-SourceOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Software https://t.co/bF27hFe8No (www.bloomberg.com)Oct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-Source Software - BloombergOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784000130290708481Oct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Rugged Android Phone https://t.co/79Ac4Y38reOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com) "Bottom line: The Galaxy S7Oct 06 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Rugged Android Phone | Android CentralOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Active"Oct 06 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001188836540416Oct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Google Patches Android for 78 Vulnerabilities in OctoberOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Update https://t.co/K09PHLoMvO (www.eweek.com)Oct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Google Patches 78 Android Flaws in October UpdateOct 06 13:04
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SebthreeBQM10HDoh wasn't back in here againOct 06 13:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/784004160840761346Oct 06 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: WebKitGTK+ and WPE are cool, but I'm more curious about this: https://t.co/W7Ckhz6NkB https://t.co/OJ4tUbylPBOct 06 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://servo.org/ )Oct 06 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Web Engines Hackfest 2016! https://t.co/94BMQzxVnu #WebKitGTK #gnome #gtk #freesw #wwwOct 06 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001891265052672Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 10 basic linux security measures everyone should be doingOct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VejA80KL23 (www.scrye.com)Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2016/10/05/10-basic-linux-security-measures-everyone-should-be-doing/ )Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784003344402636800Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Frogr 1.2 released https://t.co/zApdkzIQ3T (mariospr.org)Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5AZBwAxls2 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://mariospr.org/2016/10/05/frogr-1-2-released/ )Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784005247756820480Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in theOct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 UK https://t.co/AHYugwV9yS (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-name lookup timed out ( status 0 @ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/frogr-flickr-uploader-for-linux-update )Oct 06 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in the UK - Tizen ExpertsOct 06 13:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007357776990208Oct 06 13:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Android Camera https://t.co/IsXEwGIobfOct 06 13:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 06 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Camera | Android CentralOct 06 13:42
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007756860776448Oct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big ScreenOct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5GzeJKfy6b (www.fastcompany.com)Oct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big Screen | Fast Company | Business + InnovationOct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784009947948408836Oct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's GuideOct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CYyQsguM6M (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's Guide | Android CentralOct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784011037498564608Oct 06 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box inOct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 your home https://t.co/WVyBB0mMAq (www.pocket-lint.com)Oct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box in your home - Pocket-lintOct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012198582620161Oct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: LeakedOct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Changelog Reveals Difference https://t.co/C1TWTNXSgpOct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ibtimes.com)Oct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: Leaked Changelog Reveals Difference Between Pixel OS Features And Upcoming UpdateOct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012577139556352Oct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the TizenOct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Store  https://t.co/kFVRVvXpWr (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the Tizen Store - Tizen ExpertsOct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012811907235840Oct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya TodayOct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YEBXoNphtK (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya Today - Tizen ExpertsOct 06 13:51
cubexyzwe're predicting 12 hours of rain and an immiment upgrade:Oct 06 15:13
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/kcci-news-time-for-windows-10.jpgOct 06 15:13
cubexyzimminent, learn to spellOct 06 15:14
cubexyza lot of people just don't have control of their computers Oct 06 15:18
cubexyzthey don't know anything about the BIOS, they sometimes can't even load an alternative OS, windows 10 can just barf out messages whenever it wantsOct 06 15:19
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows10-download.pngOct 06 15:20
XRevan86cubexyz: On a positive side, it does make a message %).Oct 06 15:21
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpgOct 06 15:26
MinceRhttp://archive.is/779nVOct 06 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | New AI Is Capable of Beating Humans At Doom - SlashdotOct 06 15:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784013102299906049Oct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux WithOct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review https://t.co/j9WkGdCOzXOct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.itechpost.com)Oct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itechpost.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux With Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review : Tech : iTech PostOct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039396999782400Oct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora,Oct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 systemd.conf https://t.co/PEtNeH8DxXOct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora, systemd.conf | Tux MachinesOct 06 15:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/784039278070431745Oct 06 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bigonbe: @schestowitz Forkbomb command is even smaller than that...Oct 06 15:42
schestowitzI was thinking of that all along ;-)Oct 06 15:42
schestowitzcubexyz: I linked to your serverOct 06 15:45
schestowitzand now it's not accessible. "haha" indeed...Oct 06 15:45
schestowitzI cannot openOct 06 15:45
schestowitz[15:26] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpgOct 06 15:45
schestowitzoh, wait, now it's moving super-slowrlyOct 06 15:46
cubexyzoverload Oct 06 15:46
schestowitzbefore that it just timed outOct 06 15:46
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schestowitzcubexyz: maybe add a caching layer?Oct 06 15:46
cubexyzshould be OK now but I'll look into itOct 06 15:47
schestowitzcubexyz: ok, cheersOct 06 15:48
schestowitzthanks for logging the channels alsoOct 06 15:48
cubexyznp :)Oct 06 15:48
schestowitzI'll need that some time later, put that on freeze while EPO is spyingOct 06 15:48
schestowitzI think Researcher- might be a bot of theirsOct 06 15:48
schestowitzbut not sure, just a theoryOct 06 15:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039398811643909Oct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/7kgrz8D2E4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesOct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039400489426944Oct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/wSIpQ1htQuOct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesOct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039401751924736Oct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen/ARTIK/Samsung https://t.co/vu5sPxjNq4Oct 06 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 15:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen/ARTIK/Samsung | Tux MachinesOct 06 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039403375034368Oct 06 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Russia's Nyet to Proprietary SoftwareOct 06 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hiu8OmC2s2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 15:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Russia's Nyet to Proprietary Software | Tux MachinesOct 06 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784043945915473920Oct 06 16:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux is a new frontier for young developerOct 06 16:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/reR6BEizDZ (opensource.com)Oct 06 16:10
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Linux Story: Building a custom Linux distro | Opensource.comOct 06 16:10
*TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Linux is a new frontier for young developer...'Oct 06 16:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048257194491904Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 A general guide for the best practices of buying LinuxOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 games https://t.co/VtCFPAEIDZ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/a-general-guide-for-the-best-practices-of-buying-linux-games.8261 )Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048459292835840Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Shadow Warrior 2 may not come to Linux after all, it'sOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 getting a bit confusing https://t.co/orHHfifgNlOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/shadow-warrior-2-may-not-come-to-linux-after-all-its-getting-a-bit-confusing.8263 )Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048895076790273Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCNOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 1.0/1.1 GPUs https://t.co/ABRS6oBX1q (www.phoronix.com)Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCN 1.0/1.1 GPUs - PhoronixOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784049407138365440Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 BUTCHER from Transhuman Design releases with day-1 LinuxOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 support, it's brutal https://t.co/cOMGaINMZOOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/butcher-from-transhuman-design-releases-with-day-1-linux-support-its-brutal.8264 )Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784050606487048192Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 KernelOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Kt01MYp7S0 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 Kernel - PhoronixOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784051178950782977Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 More changes in Linux 4.9 https://t.co/wJtMnsgwEsOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/GZgh022E44Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 06 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sound Updates For Linux 4.9: Skylake Audio Still Being Tuned - PhoronixOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Elan Touchsceeen Driver, GPIO Decoder For "Input" On Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 06 16:26
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/prHQnDSOct 06 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So what exactly are the consequences? - ImgurOct 06 17:37
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cubexyzthis one might upset the kiddies:Oct 06 17:50
cubexyzhttp://maxhost.org/other/mrs-potato-head-bsod.jpgOct 06 17:50
razielle_tzulolOct 06 17:51
MinceR:)Oct 06 17:53
cubexyzlast one for today I promise:Oct 06 18:01
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/mr-peanut-bsod.jpgOct 06 18:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784052074707288064Oct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 'Stellar Tactics', a space exploration RPG with classlessOct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 character progression will come to LinuxOct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FUXGa0FBYP (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/stellar-tactics-a-space-exploration-rpg-with-classless-character-progression-will-come-to-linux.8267 )Oct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784052412646563840Oct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Day of Infamy, the WWII FPS from New World InteractiveOct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 updated, looks pretty good on LinuxOct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YYcBnwbBrn (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/day-of-infamy-the-wwii-fps-from-new-world-interactive-updated-looks-pretty-good-on-linux.8272 )Oct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784061626433597440Oct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 This Extension Adds Dynamic Transparency to GNOME Shell’sOct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Top Bar https://t.co/NyZIhwa9tZ (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 06 18:05
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | This Extension Adds Dynamic Transparency to GNOME Shell's Top Bar - OMG! Ubuntu!Oct 06 18:05
MinceRthere goes the 'branding'...Oct 06 18:07
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/HROU0T9.jpgOct 06 18:13
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schestowitzMinceR: yeah...Oct 06 19:13
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp12c3-IL-IOct 06 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Spherical Droste Effect, with added twist and recursion. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/puo6y ]Oct 06 19:24
XFaCE[13:07:49]<MinceR> there goes the 'branding'...Oct 06 19:33
schestowitzyeahOct 06 19:33
schestowitzbut whose?Oct 06 19:33
XFaCEI've been keeping track of the systemd stupidity via an excellent threat at Gentoo ForumsOct 06 19:33
XFaCEit's depressingOct 06 19:33
MinceRgnome'sOct 06 19:34
XFaCE*threadOct 06 19:34
XFaCEMinceR: same difference at this pointOct 06 19:34
XFaCEit's all relatedOct 06 19:34
XFaCEand has some level of collusionOct 06 19:34
schestowitzsystemd not a hard req for gnome?Oct 06 19:35
schestowitzSometimes explained to me recently it's still somehow possible to avoid itOct 06 19:35
XFaCEschestowitz: that seems to be in fluxOct 06 19:35
schestowitzbut not for long, or not simplyOct 06 19:35
XFaCEschestowitz: Funtoo has standalone GnomeOct 06 19:35
schestowitzso then there's just one of each: init system, network system etc.Oct 06 19:35
XFaCEby extension Gentoo toOct 06 19:35
XFaCEoOct 06 19:35
schestowitzand systemd expects app devs to rewrite their apps to cope with systemd apisOct 06 19:36
XFaCEschestowitz: BTW, reading up it seems Gentoo has a systemd dev who develops the main alternative to systemd tooOct 06 19:36
XFaCEopenrcOct 06 19:36
schestowitzso that'll be the deal breakerOct 06 19:36
schestowitzas the apps are not even strictly tied to gnome itself (the shell)Oct 06 19:36
XFaCEand for the past few years has been breaking openrc with unnecessary changesOct 06 19:36
XFaCEand is able to do this with impunityOct 06 19:37
XFaCEand no consequenceOct 06 19:37
XFaCEschestowitz: I assume you saw that announcement about multiple versions of GTK4+ to be installed on one computer to help fix compatibility?Oct 06 19:37
XFaCEhow windows of themOct 06 19:37
XFaCEschestowitz: so if you have an application that needs 4.2, and you have 4.6, you will have both versions installedOct 06 19:39
XFaCEand increased the number of versions for every GTK application on your computersOct 06 19:39
XFaCE*increaseOct 06 19:40
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MinceR06 203513 < schestowitz> systemd not a hard req for gnome?Oct 06 19:45
MinceRit is, but funtoo/gentoo have patches to fix itOct 06 19:45
MinceRhttps://github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemdOct 06 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd: GNOME Without SystemdOct 06 19:46
MinceR>systemd is a hard run time dependency for basic functionalityOct 06 19:46
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MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161005/15280135720/prominent-pro-patent-judge-issues-opinion-declaring-all-software-patents-bad.shtmlOct 06 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prominent Pro-Patent Judge Issues Opinion Declaring All Software Patents Bad | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/puobt ]Oct 06 19:49
XFaCEMinceR: I prefer another alternative Gnome project, called Xfce :3Oct 06 19:54
MinceRi didn't know that was a gnome projectOct 06 19:54
XFaCEMinceR: it's a jokeOct 06 19:54
MinceRi like fvwm with xfce4-panel and xfce4-power-managerOct 06 19:55
XFaCEas in, the better alternative is to not run Gnome at all :POct 06 19:55
MinceRicOct 06 19:55
MinceRin that case, i agreeOct 06 19:55
XFaCEespcially if I have to waste time with "extensions"Oct 06 19:55
XFaCEcompare to Xfce, where the "extensions" are just additional applications that augment an ALREADY complete DEOct 06 19:56
XFaCE*AUGMENT*Oct 06 19:56
MinceR:)Oct 06 19:56
schestowitzMinceR: thanks, missed this linkOct 06 19:58
MinceRywOct 06 19:59
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/okertbrian/status/784114091342213120Oct 06 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@okertbrian: @schestowitz @DrJillStein that one is hard to buy.Oct 06 20:35
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/fuZLzbVOct 06 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You're not supposed to report yourself, silly - ImgurOct 06 21:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784118663397908480Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Remix OS Brings Android For PC  https://t.co/vFuSCiA1iMOct 06 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124139355328512Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvBOct 06 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124141033009152Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits?Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HbXzU629hN (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 21:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits? | Tux MachinesOct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124142337400832Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security TipsOct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LSfZdVw9nK (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/GXL0Nhp0wUOct 06 21:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124182216970240Oct 06 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 Oct 06 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rrfyTPHtRn (dot.kde.org)Oct 06 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 | KDE.newsOct 06 21:13
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zoobabI love Gene QuinnOct 06 21:15
zoobabhttp://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/10/06/judge-mayer-step-down-federal-circuit/id=73567/Oct 06 21:15
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MinceRit hurts gene quinn's butt, as it shouldOct 06 21:24
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/dXhjM9W.gifvOct 06 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Deer Loves Leaf BlowerOct 06 21:45
*TweetTuxMachines @Marked_By_Rage favourited 'Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvB'Oct 06 21:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784131642248011776Oct 06 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With UbuntuOct 06 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org)Oct 06 21:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu Linux | TechrightsOct 06 21:52
schestowitzzoobab: he shoots his own footOct 06 21:57
schestowitzzoobab: the headline is a lieOct 06 21:57
schestowitzzoobab: will respond to it soonOct 06 21:57
schestowitzMinceR: cute video...Oct 06 22:01
schestowitzmaybe the rich people think, "oohh, deer, it's delocious!"Oct 06 22:01
MinceRnot only the rich people doOct 06 22:01
schestowitzdepends whereOct 06 22:02
schestowitzin some places it's more "exotic" a menu itemOct 06 22:02
MinceRand exotic menu items can't be good? :>Oct 06 22:04
schestowitzexpensiveOct 06 22:10
schestowitzflown inOct 06 22:10
schestowitzwe're not burning fossil fuels to transport dead animals for rich people's restaurantsOct 06 22:11
schestowitz"not so bright folks, not so bright.."-CarlinOct 06 22:11
MinceRyou're not? :>Oct 06 22:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784134127763202048Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With UbuntuOct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org)Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784140028972822528Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser withOct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines                 new Linux OS in December, says MuskOct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co)Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | ElectrekOct 06 22:16
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MinceRit's not like we produce much food inside citiesOct 06 22:18
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/apples_software_may_not_be_so_terrible/Oct 06 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Is Apple's software getting worse or what? • The RegisterOct 06 22:27
DaemonFC"Developer Marco Arment took Apple to task early last year, arguing that OS X (recently rebranded macOS) is full of embarrassing bugs and that the company is trying to do too much on unrealistic deadlines.Oct 06 22:27
DaemonFCArment subsequently disavowed his post because of the widespread media attention it received. But there was blood in the water and the feeding frenzy has continued at Apple's expense, at least in part because controversy, manufactured or not, drives online traffic."Oct 06 22:27
MinceRit can get worse?Oct 06 22:27
DaemonFCIn other words, Apple probably threatened to jam up his apps in the "approval process" and start kicking them back for all sorts of reasons, so he shut up and walked it back.Oct 06 22:28
DaemonFCMinceR, The fact that there is suddenly all kinds of malware and ransomware for Macs is something they've been trying to sweep under the rug.Oct 06 22:30
DaemonFCThey can't blacklist it fast enough. By the time Apple responds, there's already another variant.Oct 06 22:30
MinceRsuddenly?Oct 06 22:31
DaemonFCShortly thereafter, Apple executives Eddy Cue, SVP of internet software and services, and Craig Federighi, SVP of software engineering, responded to Mossberg's complaints in an interview with Daring Fireball's John Gruber. About 25 minutes in, Federighi said, "I know our core software quality has improved over the last five years. Improved significantly." And he noted that with regard to software quality, "There's nothing we care about more."Oct 06 22:31
DaemonFCThe Register asked Apple to provide some software quality metrics – the company gets crash reports from millions of its customers who opt in, and it has internal processes for assessing the quality of its engineering work. But Apple did not respond.Oct 06 22:31
DaemonFCHahaOct 06 22:31
DaemonFCNo comment.Oct 06 22:32
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/google_faces_age_discrimination_suit/Oct 06 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Google 'screwed over' its non-millennials – now they can all fight back • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup46 ]Oct 06 22:33
stitesThe greatest expansion  in what software is patentable occurred when Judge Mayer was chief judge of the  USCAFC. Judge Mayer oversaw the creation of software patents. Now Judge Mayer  has written an opinion which fully agrees with the points made by any of the  anti-software patent people, including me.  There is a very good explanation of both the legalities and politics of Judge  Mayer's ruling in te3chdirt.  https://www.techdirtOct 06 22:33
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DaemonFCIntel does this too. They drop workers who turn 40.Oct 06 22:34
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/early_indications_show_uk_favouring_hard_brexit_says_expert/Oct 06 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Early indications show UK favouring 'hard Brexit', says expert • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup4i ]Oct 06 22:35
DaemonFC"Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal"Oct 06 22:35
DaemonFCIt's likely to harm their economy much worse than the benefits it brings.Oct 06 22:35
razielle_tzuyeahOct 06 22:36
razielle_tzuwe're fuckedOct 06 22:36
DaemonFCThey are heavily reliant on agricultural imports, so the shock at the grocery register is going to be pretty bad if the tariffs hit.Oct 06 22:36
DaemonFCOf course, they could start importing things from the US, to some extent.Oct 06 22:36
DaemonFCWe have surpluses on certain items to the point that it is triggering government buying to keep prices stable.Oct 06 22:37
razielle_tzuwe could...Oct 06 22:37
DaemonFCThe UK is already buying up coal that is being mined in Illinois that doesn't meet US clean air laws.Oct 06 22:38
DaemonFC(Which just means that it gets burned somewhere else while we pretend that we don't share an atmosphere.)Oct 06 22:38
DaemonFCOf course, the high sulfur content means that much of the acid rain that it results in will affect the UK and surrounding countries.Oct 06 22:39
razielle_tzui know :/Oct 06 22:39
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DaemonFCThere's just something about English-speaking countries and widespread denial of global warming and other environmental problems.Oct 06 22:40
DaemonFCI ride past an old nuclear powere plant in Zion on the Metra train now and then.Oct 06 22:41
DaemonFCSome idiot inserted the control rods too far into one of the reactors back in the late 90s and accidentally shut it down, then tried to bring it back up too quickly without following procedure.Oct 06 22:41
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/zUAtucPOct 06 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The latest version o - ImgurOct 06 22:41
DaemonFCEnded up doing a ton of damage to the generators.Oct 06 22:42
DaemonFCThe other one was down for refueling.Oct 06 22:42
DaemonFCComEd came in, decided that their license would be up in a little over another decade, and decided that it would cost less to shut the plant down immediately.Oct 06 22:42
DaemonFCThey might have gotten an extension, but they might have spent hundreds of millions of dollars fixing the plant and then not getting a new license.Oct 06 22:43
DaemonFCSo they buried the reactor waste on-site, a few hundred feet from Lake Michigan.Oct 06 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/784140168500350976Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser withOct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines @Soundtoxin     new Linux OS in December, says MuskOct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co)Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:44
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DaemonFCAnd then they started tearing down the facility. They sent a bunch of stuff to be stored or incinerated in Nevada.Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784146614516649984Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Wrapping up Outreachy https://t.co/tTOQ4A4G3vOct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (renatagegaj.wordpress.com)Oct 06 22:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147218479484928Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/PUkfOFhSmaOct 06 22:44
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DaemonFCNow there are armed guards and vehicle barricades, and all that good stuff.Oct 06 22:44
DaemonFCThey sold the license off to another company along with a bunch of decommissioning money they raised by tacking it on to Illinois power bills.Oct 06 22:45
DaemonFCNow the money is almost gone, the decommissioning is not on schedule, and the company will probably go bankrupt. The state or federal governments will have to get involved, meaning taxpayer money.Oct 06 22:45
DaemonFCAll of this over some electricity that was used up decades ago.Oct 06 22:46
DaemonFCAnyway, it makes me wonder what that technician is doing these days.Oct 06 22:46
DaemonFCInterviewer: "So what did you do at your last job?"Oct 06 22:46
DaemonFCI don't think "I destroyed a nuclear power plant." is going to be a good answer.Oct 06 22:47
DaemonFCCongress won't pick a permanent storage site for nuclear waste, so we have all of these decommissioned facilities storing it on site with armed guards around it.Oct 06 22:48
DaemonFCIt will only get worse.Oct 06 22:48
DaemonFCAdd on top of that, that we have all of these reactors going that were designed in the 60s and put into service in the 60s and 70s getting license extensions, and we don't even really know if that's safe.Oct 06 22:49
DaemonFCNow, some of these are sitting near fault lines, in Tornado Alley, and in areas where a hurricane could even hit them.Oct 06 22:50
DaemonFCI'm surprised that nothing has happened since Three Mile Island to be honest.Oct 06 22:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147219624529921Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Bugs and Security https://t.co/xxy1zIxfZNOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147220845125632Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Server Administration https://t.co/pLRqhYR351Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147222887665664Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/X12NIoEBThOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147224196284417Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser withOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 new Linux OS in December, says MuskOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LiJkWbDFAi (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:54
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MinceR>"I just need things that work, and that I can rely on working," he lamented. "I say this with the utmost regret, sadness, and no small sense of betrayal: Apple doesn't seem to make those things anymore."Oct 06 22:55
MinceRgood morning, if crApple ever did that, they stopped decades agoOct 06 22:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/784148982968836100Oct 06 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: come on, it's obvious: *jam* https://t.co/qj60owZ1w9Oct 06 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal" https://t.co/pPY9QzhJw4 #uk #brexitOct 06 22:56
DaemonFCMinceR, Many of the malware attacks on Windowws have historically taken advantage of people who had updates turned off.Oct 06 22:59
MinceRnow m$ takes advantage of people who have updates turned onOct 06 23:00
DaemonFCThere'd be a new major piece of malware spreading and it would turn out that Microsoft had actually patched the vulnerability it was using months ago.Oct 06 23:00
MinceRusing m$ products is not the solution, regardless of settingsOct 06 23:00
DaemonFCApple recently patched abbout 90 security holes at once.Oct 06 23:01
MinceRhow many did they open at the same time?Oct 06 23:01
DaemonFCThey just let them pile up for months before fixing them. That's probably where so much of this malware is coming from.Oct 06 23:01
MinceRcrApple even lets upstream fixes pile up for months before delivering themOct 06 23:02
DaemonFCYeah, the majority of the fixes in Webkit come from Google, Opera, Vivaldi, KDE, GNOME, etc.Oct 06 23:03
MinceR(in BIND, for example)Oct 06 23:03
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/microsoft_silent_outlookcom_woes/Oct 06 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Never explain, never apologize: Microsoft silent on Outlook.com email server grief • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupa6 ]Oct 06 23:03
DaemonFCWho uses ISP email>Oct 06 23:03
DaemonFCIf you leave, they delete your email account.Oct 06 23:04
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/can_facebook_influence_an_election_result/Oct 06 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Can Facebook influence an election result? • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupab ]Oct 06 23:04
DaemonFCOne reason why Hillary Clinton will win.Oct 06 23:04
MinceRwell, at least not golden dawnaldOct 06 23:05
DaemonFCFacebook will probably alert mostly Clinton supporters to go vote.Oct 06 23:05
DaemonFCMinceR, John and I went to vote yesterday.Oct 06 23:05
DaemonFCClintonOct 06 23:05
MinceR:)Oct 06 23:05
DaemonFCI voted for Democrats on most of the ballot.Oct 06 23:05
DaemonFCThere were some offices where it was Democrats vs. Greens with no Republican, so I voted for the Greens there.Oct 06 23:06
MinceR:)Oct 06 23:06
DaemonFCI voted to remove about 40 judges from the bench.Oct 06 23:06
DaemonFCTo eliminate the Cook County Recorder of Deeds. To give workers a minimum of 40 hours paid sick leave. To create a constitutional requirement to use transportation-related taxes for transportation projects.Oct 06 23:07
DaemonFCAlso for harsher sentencing for gun traffickers, people who illegally possess guns, and people who commit crimes with a gun.Oct 06 23:07
DaemonFCMinceR, It was a hell of a printout at the end.Oct 06 23:08
DaemonFCThat's not even half of what we were voting on. :POct 06 23:08
DaemonFCI don't like judges in general. To make things worse, they get lifetime appointments to the bench. So you have judges that have been there since the 60s and 70s.Oct 06 23:09
DaemonFCTime for some new ones. I doubt they'll get any of them off the bench though. That's the part of the ballot where people go "Gee, I don't know." and either don't vote or vote yes on keeping all of them. Oct 06 23:10
DaemonFCI just can't see how someone who has the worldview that it's still the 1970s is supposed to rule on some of these cases that they are getting.Oct 06 23:10
DaemonFCThey should get 20 years on the bench and then go back into private practice or something.Oct 06 23:11
DaemonFCWe're asking people who didn't have a computer until they were in their 40s and who don't know the difference between a Mac and a PC to rule if Facebook's photo tagging violates the biometric security law.Oct 06 23:13
DaemonFCThen to make things better, you get jurors who are plumbers, nursing assistants, and stockboys at Walmart deciding the case.Oct 06 23:14
DaemonFCAnd the lawyers aren't allowed to explain what the law says.Oct 06 23:14
DaemonFCschestowitz keeps writing about East Texas.Oct 06 23:14
DaemonFCI think that's what's happing.Oct 06 23:14
DaemonFCThe article says,Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFCFacebook deployed the button in a massive experiment in the 2010 US congressional elections.Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFCVersions of the button, or no button at all, were shown to 61 million people in a joint study of the University of California, San Diego, with Facebook data scientists.Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFCThey used voting records to determine the button’s impact on real-world voting. It turns out the button’s call to action increased the total vote count by 340,000 votes.Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFC...Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFCBut who are those 340,000 extra voters, and why did Facebook poke them?Oct 06 23:16
DaemonFC"t cites the example of the 2000 US presidential race, in which George W Bush beat Al Gore in Florida by a mere 537 votes. Had Gore carried Florida he would have won the presidential election."Oct 06 23:16
DaemonFCOfficially, that's what happened.Oct 06 23:16
DaemonFCRepublicans in the state government and on the US Supreme Court stopped the recount.Oct 06 23:17
DaemonFCSo it was 537, give or take some tens of thousands that got sent to the shredding machines.Oct 06 23:17
DaemonFC"Facebook could therefore deploy the “I Voted” tool selectively only for supporters of candidates or political parties of its choosing, thereby amplifying only their votes.Oct 06 23:18
DaemonFCThis, it should be stated, would be legal, even if done covertly."Oct 06 23:18
DaemonFC"But let’s assume that Facebook would not be willing to take such a risk."Oct 06 23:18
DaemonFCLet us assume no such thing. They already got caught burying news from conservative news sites.Oct 06 23:19
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DaemonFCAs far as the 2010 election goes, I doubt Facebook made significant changes to what the outcome would have been.Oct 06 23:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784152859726245888Oct 06 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz They're at it in this country, too.Oct 06 23:23
DaemonFCOnly about 12% of the elections for US House seats are truly competitive. The state parties have drawn districts around the voters (gerrymandering) to get their desired result for the district election very nearly all of the time.Oct 06 23:23
DaemonFCIllinois is pretty funny, actually, when you look at the districts.Oct 06 23:24
DaemonFCChicago has half of the districts, and then you get districts like that one downstate that's nearly 20% of the land area of the state by itself, and represented by a Republican that goes on Facebook to rant that we're doomed because the end times are coming and we've pissed God off.Oct 06 23:25
DaemonFCThe Democrats drew the districts for Illinois, so they caged off a ton of Republican voters who get one representative in that district.Oct 06 23:26
DaemonFCI'm surprised there was even a Republican on my ballot for Congress this year. This district is D+24. :POct 06 23:28
DaemonFChttps://ballotpedia.org/Illinois%27_2nd_Congressional_DistrictOct 06 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ballotpedia.org | Illinois' 2nd Congressional District - BallotpediaOct 06 23:29
DaemonFCIn the last election, the Democrat got 78.5% of the vote.Oct 06 23:29
DaemonFCMinceR, Is this how elections are in Hungary?Oct 06 23:30
DaemonFCThey write the election laws so it's impossible to get rid of them no matter how you vote?Oct 06 23:30
MinceRno, it's differentOct 06 23:31
MinceRthe usa has a 2-party systemOct 06 23:31
MinceRhungary has a 1-party systemOct 06 23:31
schestowitzus is a 1.5-party system ;-)Oct 06 23:32
DaemonFChttps://gizmodo.com/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-1771012990Oct 06 23:32
schestowitz0.5 overlaps ;-)Oct 06 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Facebook Employees Asked Mark Zuckerberg If They Should Try to Stop a Donald Trump Presidency  [ http://ur1.ca/pupfl ]Oct 06 23:32
DaemonFC“I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as ‘others,’” Zuckerberg said, never referring to Trump by name. “I hear them calling for blocking free expression, for slowing immigration, for reducing trade, and in some cases, even for cutting access to the internet.”Oct 06 23:32
MinceRfidesz/kdnp rewrote the election laws so they can get 2/3 of the seats in the parliament even if they get a minority of the votesOct 06 23:32
MinceRand put in more ways they can game the systemOct 06 23:32
DaemonFCFacebook does block free expression. You piss a few people off, they go crying to Facebook, your account gets banned for 3 days.Oct 06 23:32
DaemonFCI've had it happen a few times.Oct 06 23:33
MinceRthere are rumors that they're planning to retroactively make the last (failed) referendum validOct 06 23:33
DaemonFCMinceR, That's worse than it is here.Oct 06 23:33
MinceRno shitOct 06 23:33
MinceRDaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever againOct 06 23:33
DaemonFCThe Democrats would have to get 58% of the total US House vote to be sure to get 50% of the seats.Oct 06 23:33
MinceRalso tell everyone else the sameOct 06 23:33
schestowitz[23:33] <MinceR> DaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever againOct 06 23:34
schestowitz+Oct 06 23:34
schestowitz1Oct 06 23:34
DaemonFCFacebook is always looking for ways to break Facebook customization browser extensions.Oct 06 23:34
schestowitzi helped others delete their account tooOct 06 23:34
schestowitzdoes fb still use b0ng?Oct 06 23:35
DaemonFCOh, they say that there's a feature in their Messenger apps for iOS and Android now that let you have a private conversation, end-to-end encryption, self-destruct messages, etc.Oct 06 23:35
DaemonFCClaim FB can't even read them.Oct 06 23:35
schestowitze.g. for search, translations?Oct 06 23:35
DaemonFCIt has all of those "What about the children!?" people up in arms.Oct 06 23:35
MinceRdon't trust dFB with that eitherOct 06 23:35
MinceR"they trust me"Oct 06 23:35
MinceR"dumb fucks"Oct 06 23:35
schestowitzin the earsOct 06 23:35
DaemonFCSo I posted to their walls "People shouldn't trust Facebook. They should use uTox for a private conversation.".Oct 06 23:35
MinceRan alleged end-to-end encrypted communication software is worthless if it isn't free softwareOct 06 23:36
MinceRexactlyOct 06 23:36
DaemonFCThe only thing you should say on Facebook Messenger is "If you want a private conversation, meet me on uTox.".Oct 06 23:36
schestowitzthey take the private keysOct 06 23:36
schestowitzI reckonOct 06 23:36
schestowitzsame thing I suppose apple doesOct 06 23:36
schestowitzbut it's 'cloud' and proprietary, so FBI will say, "use it, it's safe"...Oct 06 23:36
schestowitze2eOct 06 23:36
schestowitzwith us as the ends' 'backup'Oct 06 23:36
schestowitzwink winkOct 06 23:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784159115706830848Oct 06 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz @glynmoody @rj_gallagher Glyn is absolutely fearless!Oct 06 23:50
schestowitzhe has nothing to hide [sarcasm /]Oct 06 23:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SamSamK007/status/784163944021815296Oct 06 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SamSamK007: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @HillaryClinton https://t.co/wEENZED9ghOct 06 23:51
DaemonFCLooks like someont polled the Illinois Transportation Lockbox Amendment and "Yes" is at 80%.Oct 07 00:00
DaemonFCIt should easily pass. (We voted yes.)Oct 07 00:00
DaemonFCNobody trusts the legislature to stop raiding transportation funds and diverting it to other things.Oct 07 00:00
DaemonFCI suspect that I'm not the only one who gets mad that I'm paying hundreds of dollars in transportation taxes each year and every time I turn down another road I hit a pothole.Oct 07 00:01
DaemonFCWith any luck, we'll also get a new Comptroller and that puppet of Governor Rauner who is funding his priorities and starving out things like Medicaid has to leave.Oct 07 00:02
DaemonFCThe state never has enough money to pay its bills, so they fund priorities of the Republican Party and tell everyone else to wait.Oct 07 00:03
DaemonFCRauner has managed to inflict a lot of damage on transportation so far.Oct 07 00:03
DaemonFCHe impounded the money that Metra was going to use to buy new passenger rail cars. Now they're going to have to keep the ones they have rolling. Many were overdue for replacement 16 years ago.Oct 07 00:04
DaemonFCSo the lockbox amendment is a big "fuck you" to him.Oct 07 00:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Brad_Kayl/status/784165805353164805Oct 07 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brad_Kayl: @schestowitz None of my Ubuntu machines can connect, but my Windows partition magically works just fine. Hm.... #DeletingMyAccountOct 07 00:07
schestowitzOutlookOct 07 00:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: your urlOct 07 00:07
DaemonFCYeah, Outlook isn't very reliable.Oct 07 00:09
DaemonFCA few years back, thye broke it in their own web browser and told people to use Chrome for a while. :)Oct 07 00:09
DaemonFCbrbOct 07 00:11
DaemonFCHave to put a new sticker on my windshield before the $200 parking tickets start rolling in. :POct 07 00:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 Software in a Box Daily wurde soeben publiziert!Oct 07 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DNUNwz7bi6 (paper.li) Vielen Dank anOct 07 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines @avazquezmendez @phil_taylor_iw #devopsOct 07 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Software in a Box DailyOct 07 00:16
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7936187Oct 07 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk https://electrek.co/2016/10/06/tesla-updated-browser-linux-os-december-says-musk/Oct 07 01:09
schestowitz"Why does a car need a web browser?"Oct 07 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek [ http://ur1.ca/pupvv ]Oct 07 01:09
schestowitznot to play pokemon go, that's for sureOct 07 01:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, People are paying Uber drivers to take them Pokemon hunting.Oct 07 01:11
schestowitzlolOct 07 01:15
schestowitzwaste of fuelOct 07 01:15
schestowitzand timeOct 07 01:15
schestowitzfacebook was mostly a waste of timeOct 07 01:15
schestowitzat least that stupid games makes some people walk around rather than watch tv all dayOct 07 01:15
DaemonFCIt looks like Hillary Clinton's lead is expanding in the polls.Oct 07 01:17
DaemonFCDonald Trump is going to have to convince a lot of people to vote for him over the next 33 days, and many states have voting going on now.Oct 07 01:18
DaemonFCSo it doesn't look likely.Oct 07 01:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784170349629956096Oct 07 01:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784174559238955009Oct 07 01:19
TweetTuxMachines                 The Arch Terminal Desktop https://t.co/iK7xu5qqZROct 07 01:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.co.in | The Arch Terminal Desktop | Life Hacker IndiaOct 07 01:19
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DaemonFCSome kind of catastrophe would have to happen in the next month, and even if it does, a lot of the votes are going to be locked in.Oct 07 01:19
DaemonFCYou can't vote early and then go back and change your mind.Oct 07 01:19
MinceRwon't uncertain voters just vote at the last moments?Oct 07 01:20
DaemonFCI never vote on election day. It's a great big clusterfuck of people who waited until the last minute.Oct 07 01:20
DaemonFCMinceR, Yeah.Oct 07 01:20
MinceRthere[3~  you go, lots of people voting on the last day :>Oct 07 01:20
MinceRthanks, irssiOct 07 01:20
DaemonFCMinceR, History shows that the more people turn out to vote, the more Democrats win.Oct 07 01:21
DaemonFCSo my thinking is that if John and I early vote, which we did, it means two less people standing in line then.Oct 07 01:21
DaemonFCMinceR, But all of the polls are open on election day. In early voting, that's not the case.Oct 07 01:22
DaemonFCIn Chicago, it starts at the Cook County building on September 29th, and the other early voting sites don't start opening until a couple of weeks later.Oct 07 01:22
DaemonFCBy election day, most people don't have to travel more than a block.Oct 07 01:22
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cubexyzok, re-examining df.c from unix v5, should be interestingOct 07 01:41
cubexyzdfOct 07 01:55
cubexyzoopsOct 07 01:55
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cubexyzreporting used and available blocks would be niceOct 07 02:06
cubexyzyou might be wondering if v6 and v7 did thatOct 07 02:07
cubexyzthey did notOct 07 02:09
cubexyzthe Unix v8 df command was much betterOct 07 02:11
cubexyztoo bad qmc didn't bother improving dfOct 07 02:22
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cubexyzevidently Ampex Corp made a new improved df but the source code wasn't recoveredOct 07 02:29
cubexyzah, too tired to dig into it nowOct 07 02:32
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/lenovo-in-talks-to-buy-fujitsus-loss-making-pc-business/Oct 07 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lenovo in talks to buy Fujitsu’s loss-making PC business | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqdz ]Oct 07 02:46
DaemonFCLenovo is taking over what's left of Fujitsu's PC business.Oct 07 02:46
DaemonFCLenovo is promising to keep existing factories and jobs, but eventually most will be closed/fired.Oct 07 02:47
DaemonFCWhen it took over Motorola it let people keep their jobs, but not for very long.Oct 07 02:47
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/cops-arrest-hundreds-of-people-allegedly-involved-in-irs-phone-scam/Oct 07 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Cops arrest hundreds of people allegedly involved in IRS phone scam | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqec ]Oct 07 02:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/784186274332676097Oct 07 02:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209111374180352Oct 07 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 First pfSense 2.3.2 Update Adds OpenSSL Security Fixes toOct 07 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 the BSD-Based Firewall https://t.co/h2hloKxAkJOct 07 02:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209112758308864Oct 07 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool forOct 07 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/qRGlY6odjEOct 07 02:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 Open source IT pros are in high-demand in EuropeOct 07 02:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iAsIP3idtT (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 07 02:50
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/10/gears-of-war-4-the-next-gen-is-now-if-youre-on-windows-10-at-least/Oct 07 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Gears of War 4: The next gen is now—if you’re on Windows 10, at least | Ars TechnicaOct 07 02:56
DaemonFCIf you use Intel graphics, you need their beta driver, or your computer will crash when you load the game.Oct 07 02:57
DaemonFC"Gears of War 4's campaign mode might be one of the worst I've played in years."Oct 07 02:58
DaemonFCGears of War fell off a pretty steep cliff after the first one.Oct 07 02:58
DaemonFCAnd it was really hard to play the campaign without a second player in some spots on the first game.Oct 07 02:59
DaemonFCMicrosoft marketed the Xbox One as a console capable of 4K, but the Gears of War 4 game is locked to 1080p and 30 fps.Oct 07 03:00
DaemonFCThis isn't the first time they fudged.Oct 07 03:00
DaemonFCHalo 3 on the XBOX 360 wasn't even rendered at 720p. It just upscaled.Oct 07 03:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784209114826100737Oct 07 03:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 DeveloperOct 07 03:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Edition Laptop in US & EU https://t.co/gM1HQW28fWOct 07 03:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ray_Aldred/status/784306959839223808Oct 07 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ray_Aldred: @schestowitz So now what sort of laptop should I buy that is #Linux friendly?! #lenovo used to be my go-to company. :(Oct 07 09:30
schestowitz#system76 maybeOct 07 09:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ray_Aldred/status/784312587529793536Oct 07 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ray_Aldred: @schestowitz I've been considering it, but sadly the word on the street (reddit discussion, ubuntu forums etc.) is #system76 is a mix bag.Oct 07 09:45
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Tervyhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/you_know_that_ridiculously_expensive_oculus_rift_yeah_it_just_got_worse/ about the custom headphonejacksOct 07 11:42
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schestowitzdid anyone here try it?Oct 07 11:52
schestowitzI tried something similar, made me have a headache quicklyOct 07 11:52
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/rGJnIOct 07 12:13
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TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership withOct 07 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt CertificatesOct 07 12:20
MinceRdnf/yum/rpm quality package management >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/Oct 07 12:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming SoonOct 07 12:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming Soon to Ubuntu MATE 16.04Oct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353159363919872Oct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool forOct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/SLhd2vetxzOct 07 12:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for Ubuntu 16.04 LTSOct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353559626276864Oct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes KernelOct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Keyring Non-Containable https://t.co/yczrHCQpQ2Oct 07 12:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel Keyring Non-ContainableOct 07 12:28
schestowitzMinceR: it's a good thing red hat has fedora to experiment on ;-)Oct 07 12:29
schestowitzso as not to affect their paying customersOct 07 12:29
MinceRexcept they deploy all their halfbaked shit to rHELL tooOct 07 12:31
MinceRlike systemdOct 07 12:31
MinceRsomeone needs to tell them that letting crappy software rot and fester for a year doesn't magically make it stableOct 07 12:31
MinceRyum was garbage as wellOct 07 12:31
MinceRand there's no indication that dnf is any betterOct 07 12:32
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oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch.  The end result that guys point of view  https://solettaproject.org/ or systemdOct 07 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 07 13:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784356019925291008Oct 07 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Tomb Raider for Linux is currently super cheap on theOct 07 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Feral store https://t.co/mMoElBsZc4Oct 07 13:54
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cubexyzboth Lenovo and System76 are merely system integratorsOct 07 14:11
cubexyzQuanta is the real manufacturer for Lenovo and many othersOct 07 14:11
cubexyzit's still Lenovo's fault that Linux didn't work on the Yoga 900 thoughOct 07 14:12
cubexyzClevo Computer makes laptops for system76Oct 07 14:13
cubexyzI've heard that the system76 machines aren't great with the BSDsOct 07 14:15
oiaohmcubexyz: BSD has less drivers than Linux so is very simple to end up land mined.Oct 07 14:18
oiaohmcubexyz: http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/OS/C236.cfm  some of the land mining is funny.Oct 07 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supermicro.com | Super Micro Computer, Inc. - Support | OS Compatibility Chart [ http://ur1.ca/puth5 ]Oct 07 14:20
oiaohmcubexyz: thoses are all the same core intel chipset do take note of the X11SATOct 07 14:21
oiaohmcubexyz: also Windows Server 2012 R2 64bit in UEFI section not booting.Oct 07 14:22
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cubexyzoiaohm, you're backOct 07 15:12
cubexyzhaven't seen you in a whileOct 07 15:12
cubexyzwow, no 32-bit support?Oct 07 15:13
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cubexyzI'm not a big fan of system76 or los alamos computersOct 07 15:21
oiaohmYes those boards don't have drivers for 32 bit.Oct 07 15:21
cubexyzthat would change if they supported coreboot... which to the best of my knowledge they don'tOct 07 15:21
oiaohmcubexyz: I saw how far I could get with only 2G of ram.Oct 07 15:21
oiaohmTurns out not far enough to run my irc clients happy enough with everything else.Oct 07 15:22
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cubexyzridiculous... :)Oct 07 15:22
cubexyzI'm using 256 megs on this boxOct 07 15:22
oiaohmI normally have firefox, chrome and libreoffice and vlc open.Oct 07 15:23
oiaohmPlus a irc client.Oct 07 15:23
cubexyzok, chrome and firefox are definitely memory pigsOct 07 15:23
oiaohmDon't underestimate vlc or apt update.Oct 07 15:24
oiaohmor apt upgrade.Oct 07 15:24
cubexyzyou can run IRCII in quasijarus on 16 megs Oct 07 15:24
oiaohmOne apt upgrade managed to eat though 4G of swap on top of the 2G of ram.Oct 07 15:24
oiaohmI could not work out why that was until I worked out zswap not in zbud mode is nasty.Oct 07 15:25
cubexyzyou must be running much heavier stuff than meOct 07 15:26
cubexyzopenbsd + icewm and 256 megs... and no issues with memoryOct 07 15:26
cubexyzpkg_add works fineOct 07 15:26
oiaohmFirefox and chrome hurt.Oct 07 15:26
oiaohmsame with vlc.Oct 07 15:26
oiaohmAt the moment vlc is using twice as much ram as chrome.Oct 07 15:27
cubexyzI must admit I never use vlcOct 07 15:28
oiaohmPut this way firefox, chrome or vlc in 2G of memory is fine.Oct 07 15:29
oiaohmWant to run all 3 at once like I do say hello to trouble.Oct 07 15:30
oiaohmAt 4G of ram I still cannot play 0ad with everything else loaded.Oct 07 15:30
oiaohmcubexyz: note this is running LXQt windows manager is it not that eating me out of house and home.Oct 07 15:31
oiaohmI think I have lived with 8G ram systems for too long to go back.Oct 07 15:32
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cubexyzI've heard of LXDE but not LXQtOct 07 15:34
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oiaohmhttps://blog.lxde.org/?p=1364   LXQt is a Qt based version of LXDE.  Over all close to the same memory foot print.Oct 07 15:36
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cubexyzok, interestingOct 07 15:36
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oiaohmcubexyz: catch you around off to bed.Oct 07 15:40
cubexyzok, laterOct 07 15:40
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TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/RSGNrI0QQ8Oct 07 17:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux MachinesOct 07 17:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424106963841024Oct 07 17:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/0u56G1wE6SOct 07 17:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 07 17:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424108075257856Oct 07 17:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft Wants Data, Loses Data https://t.co/cgIUd6n1SlOct 07 17:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Wants Data, Loses Data | Tux MachinesOct 07 17:04
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/q7iYpRoOct 07 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You can't delete that file - ImgurOct 07 17:07
razielle_tzulolOct 07 17:08
cubexyzthe error message is that the file exists?Oct 07 17:16
razielle_tzuyeahOct 07 17:16
cubexyzthey need 8 hex digitals to keep track of all the different errorsOct 07 17:19
cubexyzdigitsOct 07 17:19
cubexyzmicrosoft office error: 0x0000000FF1CEOct 07 17:21
cubexyzdon't use 0xDEADC0DEOct 07 17:22
razielle_tzuhehOct 07 17:22
cubexyzin theory it's possible to max out number of temp files on windowsOct 07 17:31
cubexyzmaybe there's a 65,635 file limit or somethingOct 07 17:32
cubexyzso if you had 65,635 temp files and tried to delete a file it's possible you would have to delete some temp files firstOct 07 17:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784424109128101888Oct 07 17:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800Oct 07 17:39
TweetTuxMachines                 languages, including dead ones https://t.co/i4HKDEEncqOct 07 17:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's open source Noto: Free font covers 800 languages, including dead ones | Tux MachinesOct 07 17:39
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TweetTuxMachines                 Launches on October 13 https://t.co/ILnZp85I6sOct 07 17:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It Launches on October 13 | Tux MachinesOct 07 17:39
TweetTuxMachines@inet_solutions  http://twitter.com/inet_solutions/status/784428717229613057Oct 07 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines I think you might find this article aboutOct 07 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 the top 25 SEO facts & stats extremely interestingOct 07 17:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/AmiRojkes/status/784433512841637891Oct 07 18:16
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership withOct 07 18:16
TweetTuxMachines @AmiRojkes      Mediatek https://t.co/xL4KRT6e0z (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 07 18:16
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with Mediatek - Tizen ExpertsOct 07 18:16
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/QX6W3Eo.gifvOct 07 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLEOct 07 18:16
MinceRhttp://cube-drone.com/comics/c/magic-eight-ballOct 07 18:30
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antilopehiOct 07 18:46
antilopethis is how an internal EPO court looks like, including an Austrian judge..Oct 07 18:47
antilopehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzz700H6T9MOct 07 18:47
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/iHB8bgz.jpgOct 07 19:18
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DaemonFCMozilla has been talking about split-process, Pepper API, and replacing pdf.js with PDFium.Oct 07 19:20
DaemonFCI kind of wonder, at this point, why they don't just rebase on Chromium, which already has all of the features they are trying to shoehorn into Firefox.Oct 07 19:21
DaemonFCOpera gave up on Presto for the same reason.Oct 07 19:21
MinceRi stopped caring about what they do when they made pulseaudio mandatoryOct 07 19:24
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MinceRhttp://jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu/2012/08/julius-caesar-wally-wood-mad-monday.htmlOct 07 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu | Inside Jeff Overturf's Head: "Julius Caesar!" - Wally Wood - Mad Monday! [ http://ur1.ca/puupt ]Oct 07 19:45
MinceR(short-lived) https://i.4cdn.org/b/1475865972340.pngOct 07 19:49
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schestowitz[13:15] <oiaohm> MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch.  The end result that guys point of view  https://solettaproject.org/ or systemdOct 07 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 07 20:08
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schestowitzposted a link to it the other day, maybe that's where oiaohm found itOct 07 20:08
MinceRmore cancerd advertisement, i don't careOct 07 20:08
MinceR(also mixed up with some IoT advertisement)Oct 07 20:08
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schestowitzMinceR:yes, yum I always found to be sucky compared to aptOct 07 20:08
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schestowitzdnf is hardly excited, the yum guy died, shortly afterwards they rebranded their packagingOct 07 20:09
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schestowitz[19:18] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/iHB8bgz.jpgOct 07 20:20
schestowitzcrudeOct 07 20:20
MinceRi don't see howOct 07 20:20
schestowitznot for the faint-heartedOct 07 20:21
schestowitzwell, let's just say I won't post it publiclyOct 07 20:22
schestowitzalthough there's a funny element to itOct 07 20:22
schestowitzI don't get the one with the tapOct 07 20:22
schestowitzclearly it was designed this wayOct 07 20:23
schestowitznot as a prankOct 07 20:23
schestowitzmaybe the world's worst plumber, my friend had experience with a few recently, one after another they messed up the bath, each time  with different shoddy workOct 07 20:23
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MinceRhttps://media.giphy.com/media/ZsXORybHZvEpq/giphy.gifOct 07 20:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ElinaBeauchamp/status/784477703621664768Oct 07 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ElinaBeauchamp: @yahoo is not worth anything anymore https://t.co/TdR4cBSxKPOct 07 20:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476402041192448Oct 07 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 "join the Debian LEGO team in the Alioth project weOct 07 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 created yesterday" https://t.co/gd5jFbu41sOct 07 20:43
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TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.skolelinux.org | Petter Reinholdtsen: Isenkram, Appstream and udev make life as a LEGO builder easierOct 07 20:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476862735056900Oct 07 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, AndroidOct 07 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hccZoFp3nW (www.slashgear.com)Oct 07 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, Android - SlashGearOct 07 20:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/784479007014346752Oct 07 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @schestowitz @nypost That is so interesting, I think it's right colonies pay the price for colluding with state agenciesOct 07 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThomasPaine5: @Thomas_Drake1 @schestowitz @Sulliview And then their market cap dropped by $1 billion.Oct 07 21:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel,Oct 07 21:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel, Android OEMs, and more | Ars TechnicaOct 07 21:31
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-secret-ingredientOct 07 21:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Groundstain/status/784493921627799552Oct 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Groundstain: @schestowitz @wikileaks I did not even think about donating to them.Thanks for the suggestion.Oct 07 21:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784491847586500608Oct 07 21:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Why public libraries need to support open sourceOct 07 21:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why public libraries need to support open source | Tux MachinesOct 07 21:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784491848806961156Oct 07 21:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/m9s1FO1CLvOct 07 21:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784495394654973964Oct 07 21:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for DeploymentOct 07 21:48
TweetTuxMachines                 in GNU/Linux Distros https://t.co/3Lft6QYg5mOct 07 21:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784495594794516480Oct 07 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.7.7 https://t.co/axNBAh2bsT (lwn.net)Oct 07 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.4.24 https://t.co/vjPVL0dgYk (lwn.net)Oct 07 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784496114435297280Oct 07 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMCOct 07 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 option https://t.co/ngdHfHaOrJ (hackerboards.com)Oct 07 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Tiny i.MX6 COMs gain enhanced CAN and wireless, eMMC optionOct 07 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 Why Linux pioneer Linus Torvalds prefers x86 over ARMOct 07 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/r4668WPj1I (www.cio.com)Oct 07 22:00
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/KMjxiYV.jpgOct 07 23:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784498645748113408Oct 07 23:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9: F2FS Gets Performance Enhancements, EXT4 GetsOct 07 23:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Fixes https://t.co/lJl8VcaP1U (www.phoronix.com)Oct 07 23:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784498741944446977Oct 07 23:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel Integrated Sensor Hub (ISH) Support In Linux 4.9Oct 07 23:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel https://t.co/XWnzKkuYLr (www.phoronix.com)Oct 07 23:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784503283062808577Oct 07 23:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd Now Supports The RISC-V CPU ArchitectureOct 07 23:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hSg2I54F5G (www.phoronix.com)Oct 07 23:28
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MinceR>cancerd is not portable between cpu architecturesOct 07 23:29
MinceRwhat a piece of shitOct 07 23:29
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cubexyzok, new blog...Oct 08 00:05
cubexyzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/Oct 08 00:05
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cubexyzHopefully it's somewhat helpfulOct 08 00:05
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/p-humansOct 08 01:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784531566718488577Oct 08 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run AwayOct 08 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 From Linux https://t.co/93G1qcEVmU (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 08 02:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Some Myths About Linux That Cause New Users To Run Away From Linux | Tux MachinesOct 08 02:37
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/eHiqFDEOct 08 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sure windows 10, I'd love to give some Microsoft.WindowsFeedback! - ImgurOct 08 02:38
cubexyzI'll betOct 08 02:42
MinceR:>Oct 08 02:43
MinceRhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186Oct 08 03:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 817186 – systemd incorrectly handles virtual text terminalsOct 08 03:04
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Graphics https://t.co/jRYG2UiahGOct 08 04:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784584004410417152Oct 08 04:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel News https://t.co/cc0ZjyP96eOct 08 04:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784591500822847488Oct 08 04:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 7/10/2016: Linux Kernel 4.8.1, Wine Staging 1.9.20Oct 08 04:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600282961481729Oct 08 04:44
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/sqHCv3jTfuOct 08 04:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600284496551937Oct 08 04:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/LFRtaSdZ6nOct 08 04:44
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Microsoft https://t.co/Nq5BUQlJwZOct 08 06:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600287424176128Oct 08 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/Vg2OySPppJOct 08 06:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784600289869459456Oct 08 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/uQyulaOjOBOct 08 06:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/784621248454287362Oct 08 09:22
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for DeploymentOct 08 09:22
TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    in GNU/Linux Distros https://t.co/3Lft6QYg5mOct 08 09:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/GSYnFfAxA3 (lwn.net)Oct 08 09:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for Deployment in GNU/Linux DistrosOct 08 09:22
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schestowitz[03:04] <MinceR> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186Oct 08 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 817186 – systemd incorrectly handles virtual text terminalsOct 08 09:48
schestowitzMinceR: 2012Oct 08 09:48
schestowitztalk about dead horse by now..Oct 08 09:48
oiaohmschestowitz: not exactly that bug is still alive in debian stable.   Reason for using backports systemd.Oct 08 10:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/K3SARA/status/784709861871202304\Oct 08 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K3SARA: @schestowitz Google Chrome does the same when you sync your passwords.Oct 08 12:09
schestowitzYes, an even greater evilOct 08 12:10
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MinceRschestowitz: still CLOSED WONTFIXOct 08 12:41
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oiaohmMinceR: there was a new version of that bug in 2014 that in fact got fixed.Oct 08 13:22
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oiaohmMinceR: turned out the reason why X11 had to be vt1 also linked to why systemd would lose serial terminals.Oct 08 13:25
oiaohmMinceR: do note I am running systemd my X11 is on vt7 I am using Nvidia drivers and I am also using LXDM and everything works perfectly these days.Oct 08 13:29
MinceRgood for youOct 08 13:30
MinceRuntil suddenly it isn'tOct 08 13:30
oiaohmMinceR: that particular bug is fixed.Oct 08 13:30
oiaohmMinceR: if you are running modern enough systemdOct 08 13:30
oiaohmMinceR: do not I am running testing debian.   Do the same thing on stable debian strange things do come out.Oct 08 13:31
oiaohmnot/noteOct 08 13:31
MinceRstrange things will happen to you tooOct 08 13:31
oiaohmThat is the thing since version 225 most of the strangeness stopped.Oct 08 13:34
oiaohmI am on 231 at moment.Oct 08 13:34
oiaohmOnly strangeness left is with some wm login out and finding session does not end in logind.   But that is mostly due to those wm in fact leaking processes on logout.Oct 08 13:35
MinceRthe design flaws are still thereOct 08 13:36
MinceRand the evil politics are also still thereOct 08 13:36
MinceRdebian is still a smoldering ruinOct 08 13:36
MinceRbut some people keep going "it hasn't blown up in my face yet, so it must be perfect"Oct 08 13:36
MinceRenjoy your reinvented windowsOct 08 13:36
MinceRwhat i don't get is that if systemd people love huge opaque hairballs with atrocious designs, why don't you just run windowsOct 08 13:37
oiaohmThat is the thing quite a few of the design flaws have in fact gone by by ok not all of them but they have been reducing.Oct 08 13:39
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/unary   http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1475593004-20161004after.pngOct 08 13:39
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MinceRso, what are the separated major components named? where are the stable APIs between them?Oct 08 13:39
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oiaohmMinceR: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/libsystemd/libsystemd.sym  stable API between them I guess you did not look into libsystemd .so file.  Yes its versioned.  221 is where you see the sd_bus appear.Oct 08 13:46
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MinceRso what if it's versioned? there are no minor versionsOct 08 13:49
MinceRthe whole thing churns like hellOct 08 13:49
oiaohmThat is not true.Oct 08 13:49
oiaohmMinceR: look again.Oct 08 13:49
MinceRit's amusing how you systemd people like to redefine terms like 'modular' and 'stable' to try to make this mess look goodOct 08 13:49
oiaohmNot at all.Oct 08 13:49
oiaohmStable ABI only starts appearing in systemd at the first version in libsystemdOct 08 13:50
MinceRhell, even 'free software' was effectively redefine to accommodate ratcrap's microsoftian tacticsOct 08 13:50
oiaohmMinceR: so all versions of systemd with version numbers less than 209 have no stable ABI.Oct 08 13:50
oiaohmThis is why I said reducing.Oct 08 13:52
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oiaohmMinceR: churns like hell applies to the earlier version of systemd.   Really its annoying how long it took systemd to get to building stable ABI.Oct 08 13:53
MinceRs/ine/ined/Oct 08 13:53
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oiaohmMinceR: systemd bad ABI starts with a bad idea.   kdbus ie get kdbus into kernel after that stabilised the interfaces.   Not good logic.Oct 08 13:56
MinceRlet's not get started on bad ideas in how systemd started, that would last for a weekOct 08 13:56
oiaohmLike for sure you don't want to be using systemd lower than 221 the interconnects between stuff in those versions are too much cross fingers and pray.Oct 08 13:58
oiaohmBut there are a lot of different Linux LTS versions release with systemd less than 221Oct 08 13:59
oiaohmMinceR: also do note systemd has not double version any function so far because every time they have added a function to the ABI it has stayed absolutely the same.Oct 08 14:03
oiaohmMinceR: so systemd is getting something right these days.Oct 08 14:03
MinceRyet debian and even rHELL released with earlier versionsOct 08 14:04
MinceRsystemd "stable"Oct 08 14:04
MinceRsystemd will get something right when it gets shut down and replaced with GNU againOct 08 14:04
MinceRnot that it would restore my trust in the distros that touted it as "stable"Oct 08 14:05
oiaohmThe problem here is sysvinit and upstart before system are both broken.Oct 08 14:06
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MinceRthe problem here is that you're still pretending that systemd is just an init systemOct 08 14:06
MinceRand that sysvinit and upstart are just as broken as systemdOct 08 14:07
MinceRand that other init systems don't even existOct 08 14:07
oiaohmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I  this guy and others tried all the different init systems before going systemd or writing soletta because everything was technically broken.Oct 08 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 08 14:09
oiaohmWhat is the problem for years debian, redhat everyone just kept on using sysvinit or other imported init systems from Unix.   Linux kernel does a lot of things that is not Unix like at all.Oct 08 14:10
MinceRagain, implying that systemd is not brokenOct 08 14:11
MinceRdespite all evidenceOct 08 14:11
oiaohmsystemd turns out to be less broken.Oct 08 14:11
MinceRin your dreams, maybeOct 08 14:11
oiaohmNot in my dreams.Oct 08 14:11
MinceRyou never studied software engineering, have you?Oct 08 14:11
oiaohmIn fact I have.Oct 08 14:11
MinceRand you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc?Oct 08 14:12
XFaCEMinceR: like that minor ddos flaw that crashes a systemOct 08 14:12
XFaCE"minor"Oct 08 14:12
MinceRyeahOct 08 14:12
MinceRnot distributed thoughOct 08 14:12
MinceRif you mean the notify thingOct 08 14:12
XFaCEMinceR: in which a systemd developer demonstrated ignoranceOct 08 14:12
XFaCEsever ignoranceOct 08 14:12
MinceRall it takes is 1 unprivileged userOct 08 14:12
XFaCE*severeOct 08 14:12
oiaohmIn fact no.Oct 08 14:12
XFaCEyepOct 08 14:12
MinceR08 151201 < MinceR> and you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc?Oct 08 14:12
XFaCEbut it was fixed, so this "minor" flaw is acceptableOct 08 14:12
oiaohmThe reported dos required systemd built with debugging.Oct 08 14:12
MinceRyou know, things an init system is supposed to doOct 08 14:12
MinceRnot run a web server as root in pid1, and shit like thatOct 08 14:13
XFaCEhttps://www.agwa.name/blog/post/systemd_is_not_magic_security_dustOct 08 14:13
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oiaohmMinceR: systemd does not run a web server as pid1Oct 08 14:13
MinceRoh, it doesn't?Oct 08 14:13
oiaohmMinceR: never has.Oct 08 14:13
MinceRthat's a reliefOct 08 14:13
MinceRthen it just does a dozen other things as root in pid1Oct 08 14:13
MinceRlike parsing untrusted inputOct 08 14:14
oiaohmMinceR: systemd is a multi process thing if a web server is kicked up it is it own pid.Oct 08 14:14
MinceRand communicating on the networkOct 08 14:14
MinceRyeah, except when it is notOct 08 14:14
oiaohmNo communicating on network is not in pid.Oct 08 14:14
oiaohmopps pid1Oct 08 14:14
MinceRnot even the one that brings up a random container on your machine?Oct 08 14:14
oiaohmLots and lots of things people claim are in systemd pid1 are not.Oct 08 14:14
MinceR(because obviously an "init system" must do that too)Oct 08 14:14
MinceRlots of things still are in pid1, thoughOct 08 14:14
oiaohmMinceR: container importing that is no pid1 never has been.Oct 08 14:15
MinceRi suppose you're also ignoring the vulnerabilities its dns resolver adds to the systemOct 08 14:15
oiaohmMinceR: dns resolver of systemd is it own process and can be disabled and does support processing dnssec where glibc default does not.Oct 08 14:16
MinceRdoes dnssec help with its severe vulnerabilities?Oct 08 14:16
MinceRgood to hear there's one thing you can disable in that hairball thoughOct 08 14:16
oiaohmMinceR: dnssec makes it harder to spoof dns entries.Oct 08 14:16
MinceRunlike the part that fucks up your system logsOct 08 14:16
MinceRah, so you're ignoring the issuesOct 08 14:17
MinceRclassic cognitive dissonanceOct 08 14:17
oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I  < do watch and see how much of systemd he manages to turn off.Oct 08 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 08 14:17
oiaohmMinceR: he even turns off to shock horror journald completely.Oct 08 14:18
XFaCEMinceR: " Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients.""Oct 08 14:18
MinceRwatch how much of systemd i can turn offOct 08 14:18
XFaCEMinceR: systemd-free.org :)Oct 08 14:18
oiaohmMinceR: turns out systemd will fall back to using old school logging if journald is removed.Oct 08 14:18
MinceR(hint: all of it)Oct 08 14:18
XFaCEMinceR: schestowitz https://davmac.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/why-do-we-keep-building-rotten-foundations/Oct 08 14:19
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XFaCE"The new release of Gtk is going to be fully parallel-installable with the old one. Gtk 4 and Gtk 3 will install alongside each other in exactly the same way as Gtk 2 and Gtk 3 — separate library name, separate pkg-config name, separate header directory. You will be able to have a system that has development headers and libraries installed for each of Gtk 2, 3, 4 and 5, if you want to do that."Oct 08 14:20
XFaCE"Meanwhile, Gtk 4.0 will not be the final stable API of what we would call “Gtk 4”. Each 6 months, the new release (Gtk 4.2, Gtk 4.4, Gtk 4.6) will break API and ABI vs. the release that came before it."Oct 08 14:20
XFaCE"We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system"Oct 08 14:20
MinceRi wonder if anyone other than gnome will want to use that crapOct 08 14:21
XFaCEMinceR: I wonder how long until they rename it libgnomeOct 08 14:21
MinceR:>Oct 08 14:22
XFaCEMinceR: Gnome runtime? XDOct 08 14:22
oiaohmXFaCE: the DBUS API for DNS resolution is due to the horrible reality DNS normal protocol is not design to cope with a case where you have DNS entries with and without DNSSEC at the same time.Oct 08 14:22
MinceRlendows internal library #4324Oct 08 14:22
oiaohmXFaCE: Ie no space in protocol to send mess yes we got X resolve but its insecure.Oct 08 14:23
MinceRoiaohm: yeah, that would be impossible to do with a function call to a libraryOct 08 14:23
MinceRit's not like you can just add parametersOct 08 14:23
MinceRor use structs to pass parameters or receive results inOct 08 14:23
XFaCEMinceR: Talking around I've learned that DBUS could have been implemented using the existing TIPC support in the Linux kernelOct 08 14:24
XFaCEand better tooOct 08 14:24
MinceRyeahOct 08 14:24
oiaohmMinceR: the library defines that need to be updated is for libc  posix standard and gnu c have defined the library DNS functions.Oct 08 14:25
MinceRtoo bad "better" is not how lendows people functionOct 08 14:25
XFaCEbut that would violate the "not invented here" doctrineOct 08 14:25
MinceRexactlyOct 08 14:25
MinceRoiaohm: yeah, it's impossible to add another library or another functionOct 08 14:25
MinceRwhich is why gtk also doesn't existOct 08 14:25
MinceRand neither does libsystemdOct 08 14:25
XFaCEor or lib.*Oct 08 14:26
XFaCE/lib.*Oct 08 14:26
oiaohmMinceR: then you will complain about applications have a solid systemd dependancy.Oct 08 14:27
MinceRnoOct 08 14:27
MinceRthis dbus fuckage is what generates a solid systemd dependencyOct 08 14:27
XFaCEof course, there isn't a huge incentive by the sysd people to have thoseOct 08 14:27
XFaCEcoughOct 08 14:27
XFaCE"We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system"Oct 08 14:27
XFaCEoopsOct 08 14:28
MinceRbecause only systemd is stupid enough to use dbus for things that don't need dbus and are actually more fragile with dbusOct 08 14:28
XFaCE" Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients."Oct 08 14:28
MinceRremember, dbus is "designed" to require a reboot to be restartedOct 08 14:28
MinceRand yet we're supposed to use that crap on servers and workstationsOct 08 14:28
oiaohmdbus was design to be posix netural in the first place leading to it not using stuff like TIPC.Oct 08 14:28
MinceRoiaohm: here's another thing that should have been obvious: it's possible to implement a DNS resolver library as an independent projectOct 08 14:29
MinceRit doesn't have to be part of systemdOct 08 14:29
XFaCEoiaohm: lol of courseOct 08 14:29
XFaCElet's not use an existing STANDARD protocolOct 08 14:29
oiaohmMinceR: the standard DNS resolver library format need to be updated for DNSSECOct 08 14:29
XFaCE"Dual BSD/GPL licensed code" - TIPC featureOct 08 14:29
oiaohmMinceR: that is the bit in the libc standard defines.Oct 08 14:29
MinceRoiaohm: a few moments ago you said it was impossibleOct 08 14:29
MinceRmake up your mind alreadyOct 08 14:29
oiaohmMinceR: currently impossible because those guys are stuck in a 3 year aguement so far about how in hell it should be implemented.Oct 08 14:30
MinceR"posix neutral" as in "If developers don't force themselves into the constraints of the POSIX API, they could develop some really innovative software, like systemd shows."Oct 08 14:30
MinceRoiaohm: well, if you don't want to understand what i'm telling you, then don'tOct 08 14:31
oiaohmMinceR: DNS resolver library standard has not been updated for DNSSEC.   systemd developers wasted 2 years attempting to get it updated before going the dbus route.Oct 08 14:32
oiaohmMinceR: lets just say that one problem leaded to a meg out of control cat fight in the old UNIX camp.Oct 08 14:33
XFaCEMinceR: Given the Gnome devs behaviour on Transmission, I'm gonna guess they went on the issue tracker and demanded rudely that their demands come firstOct 08 14:33
oiaohmNot everything systemd does is their fault some cases there are some really stupid things going on.Oct 08 14:35
MinceRoiaohm: yes, because coming up with a new dbus call is somehow more acceptable than coming up with a new library callOct 08 14:35
oiaohmMinceR: the arguement is currently 42 new library calls.Oct 08 14:35
MinceRyes, stupid things like letting poettering design anythingOct 08 14:35
oiaohmMinceR: so you cover all the random crap they are implementing.Oct 08 14:35
XFaCEMinceR: Coming up with dbus from scratch is more acceptable than using an existing standard protocolOct 08 14:35
XFaCEofcOct 08 14:36
MinceRXFaCE: gnome always comes first, apparentlyOct 08 14:36
oiaohmXFaCE: they tried the standard protocol way first only to find you have 42+ different ways to implement it all ready.Oct 08 14:36
MinceRit's more important than other people's servers or my workstationsOct 08 14:36
oiaohmXFaCE: all incompadible.Oct 08 14:36
MinceRand instead if picking one or coming up with their own, they made it depend on the toy known as dbusOct 08 14:37
MinceRlendows logicOct 08 14:37
oiaohmXFaCE: dbus way at least you can put a wrapper on it.Oct 08 14:37
MinceRyeah, it's impossible to wrap c functionsOct 08 14:37
XFaCEa turd wrapped in gold is still a turdOct 08 14:37
MinceRwhich is why nobody ever did itOct 08 14:37
oiaohmXFaCE: I am not saying it not a turd.Oct 08 14:37
MinceRyes you areOct 08 14:37
MinceRin so many wordsOct 08 14:37
oiaohmBut its a turd formed because of a very much bigger turd.Oct 08 14:37
MinceRin so many turdsOct 08 14:38
XFaCE"Sure Windows is poorly conceived, but that's only cause of OS/2!"Oct 08 14:38
oiaohmI really wish a proper dns resolver spec with dnssec mixed with non dnssec support would become agreed on then killing the systemd dbus stuff would be possible.Oct 08 14:39
XFaCEaha, the "Windows has games" argumentOct 08 14:40
MinceRyeah, because killing systemd lock-in is so easyOct 08 14:40
XFaCEMinceR: Yeah, it's not like there are developers intentionally crippling certain alternatives too?Oct 08 14:41
XFaCE*cough*Gentoo*cough*Oct 08 14:41
XFaCE*cough*OpenRC*cough*Oct 08 14:41
XFaCEthank goodness for RunitOct 08 14:42
MinceRyeah, nobody ever said things like "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."Oct 08 14:42
oiaohm soletta that is not systemd processes systemd unit files.Oct 08 14:42
MinceRso it's garbage, like systemdOct 08 14:42
MinceRdoes it also silently ignore changes in unit files if the changes are incorrect, like systemd does?Oct 08 14:42
MinceRalso, soletta is for IoT, which i don't care forOct 08 14:43
MinceRat least until IoT zombies start DDoSing stuff i useOct 08 14:43
XFaCEMinceR: or the next president declares a cyberwarOct 08 14:43
MinceRwhy declare wars anymore, it's so much easier to just do what you wantOct 08 14:43
oiaohmsoletta is designed for iot so as compact as possible.   Soletta does not ignore errors in unit files.Oct 08 14:43
MinceRignoring citizens and keeping everyone in the darkOct 08 14:43
oiaohmsystemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider.Oct 08 14:44
MinceRand soletta is modeled after systemd, making it the ideal target for IoT exploitsOct 08 14:44
MinceRyeah, you can replace it with a fork of itselfOct 08 14:44
MinceRor with a different implementation of the same braindead toxic designOct 08 14:44
oiaohmThere is no systemd code in solettaOct 08 14:44
XFaCEoh it's replaceable - but by something completely incompatibleOct 08 14:44
XFaCEwhich is a good thing fortunatelyOct 08 14:45
MinceRall i ever dreamed of doing is reimplementing some idiot's broken dbus APIs for the sake of compatibilityOct 08 14:45
MinceR(and remember, dbus is garbage)Oct 08 14:45
XFaCEMinceR: ItOct 08 14:45
XFaCEIt's like being a wine developerOct 08 14:45
MinceRexactlyOct 08 14:46
XFaCEminus any appeal whatsoeverOct 08 14:46
MinceRbut since ratcrap is not called microsoft, they get a free passOct 08 14:46
MinceReven from people who noticed the wrongdoings when m$ did themOct 08 14:46
MinceRi'm looking at you, Gratis Windows FoundationOct 08 14:46
oiaohmMinceR: soletta no dbus.Oct 08 14:46
XFaCEMinceR: nah, those same people are now clapping over new Microsoft and the Linux subsystemOct 08 14:46
MinceRyeahOct 08 14:47
XFaCE"new"Oct 08 14:47
MinceRoiaohm: so how will soletta replace systemd?Oct 08 14:47
MinceRoiaohm: how will it satisfy the demands of gnome looking for systemd-timedated and systemd-hostnamed?Oct 08 14:47
oiaohmI did not say soletta will in it current form be able to replace it all.   Compared to attempting to transfer shell scripts between init systems vs unit files it turns out unit files are fairly bug free.Oct 08 14:50
MinceR08 154407 < oiaohm> systemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider.Oct 08 14:50
MinceRlooks like systemd is a lot less replaceable than you considered.Oct 08 14:50
XFaCEMinceR: nah, the uselessd developer was just lazyOct 08 14:50
MinceRoiaohm: have you ever seen bsd rc files?Oct 08 14:50
XFaCEamiriteOct 08 14:50
MinceRuselessd was just a pointless forkOct 08 14:51
MinceRremoving random bits from systemd won't fix the underlying severe design flawsOct 08 14:51
MinceRand neither will it fix the cult's behaviorOct 08 14:51
oiaohmMinceR: bsd rc files are a lot more common sense than sysvinit have been.Oct 08 14:51
XFaCEok, I agree oiaohm Oct 08 14:51
XFaCEthen why didn't we switch to OpenRC instead?Oct 08 14:51
MinceRoiaohm: see, debian's and redhat's rc files being complex is not sysvinit's faultOct 08 14:51
MinceRXFaCE: because we're pretending openrc doesn't existOct 08 14:52
XFaCEor runitOct 08 14:52
MinceRit's far more to justify forcing everyone to systemd if we pretend only sysvinit and systemd existOct 08 14:52
XFaCEit's sysVinit or nothingOct 08 14:52
XFaCENOTHINGOct 08 14:52
MinceRs/more/easier/Oct 08 14:52
oiaohmOpenrc even today still has more crashing faults than the first systemd.Oct 08 14:52
oiaohmSo basically not ready.Oct 08 14:52
MinceRgood, you can replace itOct 08 14:52
XFaCEactually, it's stable, unless you count post 0.13 versionsOct 08 14:52
MinceRsystemd is not ready eitherOct 08 14:52
MinceRdid that stop the cultists?Oct 08 14:52
XFaCEwhereby a systemd developer has basically been sabotaging itOct 08 14:53
MinceRwhen will they get rid of that asshole?Oct 08 14:53
XFaCEMinceR: hard to say, he's entrenched and knows how to play the bureaucratic gameOct 08 14:53
oiaohmMinceR: to be correct sysvinit is based on faultly logic that a process id will never be reused leading to hacks around that.Oct 08 14:53
MinceRcan he also affect funtoo and other forks or only gentoo?Oct 08 14:54
XFaCEMinceR: fortunately forks are already in progress, and Funtoo exists as an alternativeOct 08 14:54
XFaCEonly gentooOct 08 14:54
XFaCEfuntoo stopped at version 0.12Oct 08 14:54
MinceRoiaohm: still far less faulty in practice than systemd relying on a system they themselves admit does not work reliablyOct 08 14:54
XFaCEMinceR: in other words, they saw the writingOct 08 14:54
MinceRXFaCE: i seeOct 08 14:54
MinceRoiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown?Oct 08 14:55
MinceRs/sed/ses/Oct 08 14:55
XFaCEMinceR: even so, there's always runitOct 08 14:56
oiaohmoiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown? that was fixed in 220Oct 08 14:56
XFaCEVoid Linux uses itOct 08 14:57
MinceRthat's greatOct 08 14:57
MinceRtoo bad enterprise clients got sold 219Oct 08 14:57
oiaohmMinceR: Ubuntu and redhat backported the patch.Oct 08 14:57
MinceReven in rHELL 7.2Oct 08 14:57
oiaohmIn updates.Oct 08 14:58
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MinceRah, so that's the new "stable" releaseOct 08 14:58
MinceRit doesn't work at all, but don't worry, we'll fix it eventuallyOct 08 14:58
XFaCEMinceR: like the GTK framework :POct 08 14:59
MinceRif your business critical stuff fails in the meantime, that's just too fucking badOct 08 14:59
XRevan86MinceR: Linux 3.8.0?Oct 08 14:59
MinceRXRevan86: systemd 219, rHELL 7.2Oct 08 14:59
XRevan864*Oct 08 14:59
MinceRXRevan86: i thought linux stopped making stable releases long agoOct 08 14:59
XRevan86https://kernel.org/Oct 08 15:00
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MinceRoiaohm: remember, sysvinit could shut down systems reliably, with SIGTERM, pause, SIGKILLOct 08 15:00
MinceRfor decades.Oct 08 15:00
MinceRbut i guess that's just not "modern" enoughOct 08 15:00
oiaohmMinceR: no sysvinit had the other problem where at times the system would not shutdown at all.Oct 08 15:00
MinceRyeah, systemd had that tooOct 08 15:01
oiaohmMinceR: they fixed that with over killing.Oct 08 15:01
XRevan86systemd has a watchdog which waits for a while, then shutdowns eventually.Oct 08 15:01
oiaohmsysvinit does not have a critical watchdog.Oct 08 15:01
XRevan86so the point of shutting down is always eventually achievedOct 08 15:01
MinceRyeah, just your stuff doesn't get to save its stateOct 08 15:02
MinceRlike shell historyOct 08 15:02
MinceRbut who needs thatOct 08 15:02
MinceRyanking the power cord out is the new "modern"Oct 08 15:02
oiaohmMinceR: yanking the power cord was kind of the jammed sysvinit solution.Oct 08 15:02
XRevan86if bash won't shutdown for 10 minutes, I doubt shell history will be lost because of the watchdog %)Oct 08 15:02
MinceRagain, if i wanted to run an OS that can't do anything reliably, i'd just run the winblows i was forced to buy along with my hardware.Oct 08 15:02
oiaohmMinceR: and hoping your discs were properly flushed.Oct 08 15:03
XFaCE[10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern"Oct 08 15:03
XFaCEMS DOS :POct 08 15:03
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MinceRor you could use magic sysrqOct 08 15:03
MinceRexcept...Oct 08 15:03
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cubexyzI don't remember seeing any problem with sysvinit on Xenix or LinuxOct 08 15:03
oiaohmMinceR: magic syqrg does not promise disc flushing either.Oct 08 15:03
XRevan86watchdog is per-serviceOct 08 15:03
XFaCE[10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern"Oct 08 15:04
MinceRoiaohm: at least it lets you tell the system to sync everything and unmount everythingOct 08 15:04
XFaCEthe new modern is installing stuff in virtual containers and when it breaks just rebooting or replacing said VMOct 08 15:04
XFaCEwho care about long-term reliabilityOct 08 15:04
MinceRi doOct 08 15:04
MinceRbut then, i'm not running lendowsOct 08 15:04
oiaohmcubexyz: you need some badly behaved items loaded to have shutdown issues on Xenix but it possible.Oct 08 15:04
MinceRand i don't buy into the "VMs will fix all our problems" religion eitherOct 08 15:04
MinceRyeah, badly behaved items do that on linux too -- like systemdOct 08 15:05
XFaCEMinceR: it won't fix them, but it will obfuscate around them nicelyOct 08 15:05
MinceR:)Oct 08 15:06
oiaohmcubexyz: I locked a Xenix up with a 2 scripts where every time one died the other started a new copy.Oct 08 15:06
MinceRand add some more problemsOct 08 15:06
MinceRand help hw salesOct 08 15:06
cubexyzoiaohm, which version of Xenix? Or was it Unix SysV?Oct 08 15:06
cubexyzbtw I've been running Linux Sysvinit (FC1) since 2004Oct 08 15:07
oiaohmcubexyz: System V.2.3.4  the 1991 of XenixOct 08 15:08
cubexyzif you really don't like sysvinit why not run one of the BSDs?Oct 08 15:08
cubexyzfor server...Oct 08 15:09
XRevan86daemontools is the worstOct 08 15:09
MinceRhe'd rather run windowsOct 08 15:09
MinceRbut can only afford the closest gratis thing, systemdOct 08 15:09
oiaohmMinceR: I hate windows way more than I hate sysvinit.Oct 08 15:10
cubexyzI have a server that does automatic shutdowns when the UPS loses powerOct 08 15:10
cubexyzno problems...Oct 08 15:10
MinceRoiaohm: but you like svchost, don't you?Oct 08 15:10
cubexyzand I have 12 years of experience with itOct 08 15:10
oiaohmMinceR: svchost great way to hide a virus.Oct 08 15:10
MinceRcubexyz: i had that too, until the machine decided it won't talk to my ups anymoreOct 08 15:10
MinceRoiaohm: exactlyOct 08 15:10
MinceRoiaohm: same thing is true for systemdOct 08 15:10
oiaohmNo systemd in fact has proper reporting of what is contained.Oct 08 15:11
MinceRsureOct 08 15:11
oiaohmsvchost you can have it completely lie.Oct 08 15:11
MinceRdid it properly report all the unchecked null dereferences too?Oct 08 15:11
cubexyzMinceR, I assume you were using apcupsd?Oct 08 15:11
oiaohmWindows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call.Oct 08 15:11
MinceRi'm using nutOct 08 15:11
MinceRi have an eaton upsOct 08 15:12
cubexyzyou can reload the USB sub-system I think'Oct 08 15:12
cubexyzif it stops communicatingOct 08 15:12
MinceRi guess the next reboot will fix it...Oct 08 15:12
MinceReven lsusb hangsOct 08 15:12
MinceRand i can't even kill it with ^COct 08 15:12
MinceR08 161155 < oiaohm> Windows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call.Oct 08 15:13
MinceRof course it didOct 08 15:13
MinceRthey come from the same cultureOct 08 15:14
MinceRand have the same underlying ideaOct 08 15:14
cubexyzI would try reloading usb-storage, but maybe your system is differentOct 08 15:14
oiaohmdaemontools + sysvinit was a great way to let lose hell.Oct 08 15:14
cubexyzrmmod usb-storage then insmod usb-storage fixed some issues for meOct 08 15:14
MinceRif i ping timeout, it didn't :>Oct 08 15:14
cubexyzalso some external usb hard drives should be avoidedOct 08 15:15
XFaCEcubexyz: examples?Oct 08 15:15
MinceRnope, not even loaded hereOct 08 15:15
MinceRthere are no usb devices plugged into the server other than the upsOct 08 15:15
oiaohmMinceR: no systemd is more GNU culture of badly copy Unix world stuff.   I have told you before the unix world stuff they were attempting to copy.Oct 08 15:15
cubexyzXFaCE, any really el cheapo chinese onesOct 08 15:15
MinceRoiaohm: which unix world stuff does stuffing several unrelated services in the same process?Oct 08 15:15
cubexyzI think WD one of the better onesOct 08 15:16
oiaohmMinceR: X11Oct 08 15:16
MinceRoiaohm: show me a windowing system that is more modular than X11.Oct 08 15:16
cubexyzanyways my only shutdowns have happened when the utility power fails for longer periods of timeOct 08 15:17
oiaohmMinceR: there are so many windows systems truly more modular not bound to a single event loop for decades.Oct 08 15:17
cubexyzalso I made some reliability improvements to FC1 and I understand it pretty well Oct 08 15:18
MinceRoiaohm: which of them do properly separate out the window manager and the widget toolkit?Oct 08 15:18
cubexyzMinceR, your Linux is probably significantly different from my FC1 serverOct 08 15:18
MinceRyeahOct 08 15:18
cubexyza lot of stuff has changed since thenOct 08 15:18
oiaohmMinceR: system in fact fires off a lot of processes.   So does not really stuff unrelated stuff into the same process.  Oct 08 15:19
MinceRoiaohm: non sequiturOct 08 15:19
oiaohmMinceR: X11 core server until recently had input and 2d rendering in the same thread.   This is why when X11 server starts rendering hard input would freese.Oct 08 15:19
MinceRi'm pretty sure the job of init, rc, udev, [x]inetd, crond and atd are still in pid1Oct 08 15:19
oiaohmMinceR: only one out if that list is in fact in systemd pid1.Oct 08 15:20
MinceRoiaohm: other windowing systems tend to build the window manager and the widget toolkit into the display server. far less modular, far less flexible.Oct 08 15:20
MinceRoiaohm: [citation needed]Oct 08 15:20
oiaohmMinceR: lot of those things are fired off by the PID1 but not in the PID1.Oct 08 15:21
MinceRoiaohm: [citation needed]Oct 08 15:21
oiaohmsystemd-udevd.service  << this is because udevd is a service in it own right with its own pid.Oct 08 15:22
MinceRright, so that's udevOct 08 15:22
MinceRwhat about the others?Oct 08 15:22
cubexyzxchat and X itself used the most CPU timeOct 08 15:22
cubexyznot httpd Oct 08 15:22
cubexyzsignificantly more Oct 08 15:22
oiaohmMinceR: you will find inetd, crond and atd stuff are all services under systemd in own right.Oct 08 15:23
MinceRwhat are they called?Oct 08 15:23
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MinceRnot only did systemd take over the job of crond, it even broke crond with cgroups cargo cultingOct 08 15:27
cubexyzif you really wanted to be strict you could run your server without X runningOct 08 15:28
cubexyzoiaohm, did your 1991 Xenix have internet running? Oct 08 15:29
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/uh2-2.jpgOct 08 15:29
cubexyzwow, 2.3.4 is pretty oldOct 08 15:30
cubexyzdon't think my Xenix ever had TCP/IP Oct 08 15:30
oiaohmcubexyz: Xenix was something stand alone monoring stuff.Oct 08 15:31
cubexyzI think sysv stuff started around 1983 so it's been around for a long timeOct 08 15:33
cubexyzsolaris was a SVR4 derivative Oct 08 15:34
cubexyzSun went from BSD derived to SVR4 derivedOct 08 15:35
cubexyzI sure don't remember people talking about sysvinit problems back thenOct 08 15:36
cubexyzheck, a driver bug could bring down the system in any caseOct 08 15:38
cubexyzor resource exhaustionOct 08 15:39
cubexyzor hardware failureOct 08 15:39
oiaohmcubexyz: resource exhaustion happened lot when restarting services losing still running processes.Oct 08 15:39
oiaohmLets just say sysvinit failure to track was not being linked back to sysvinit.   Instead lets attempt to replace X service with Y service and hope it don't leak.Oct 08 15:40
cubexyzdoesn't the OOM killer supposed to fix that in Linux?Oct 08 15:40
oiaohmOOM killer can still cause data loss.Oct 08 15:41
cubexyztrueOct 08 15:41
cubexyzwell you need a good operator watching thingsOct 08 15:41
oiaohmSo you don't want to be hitting resourse exhaustion becuase you have been restarting a service and it has not been restarting cleanly.Oct 08 15:41
oiaohmWe have need something better than sysvinit for some time.Oct 08 15:42
oiaohmcubexyz: also remember you don't want to be paying a operator to watch stuff 24/7.   This is where being able to set proper limits on services come in.Oct 08 15:43
oiaohmcubexyz: catch you around.Oct 08 15:44
cubexyzlater :)Oct 08 15:44
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cubexyznowadays the Linux processes have /proc/some_PID/oom_scoreOct 08 15:46
cubexyzanyways, I know how FC1 does things so I'm usually not surprisedOct 08 15:47
cubexyzhackers are always trying new tricks thoughOct 08 15:47
cubexyzI think the IBM mainframes do a better job of watchdogging thingsOct 08 15:49
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cubexyzalso a mainframe probably does have a 24/7 operator Oct 08 15:52
cubexyzwe even did for PDP-10sOct 08 15:52
cubexyzthe mainframe OS might even be _smaller_ than the PC versionOct 08 15:53
cubexyzthere's no GUI stuff in thereOct 08 15:53
cubexyzI should try running linux on S390 sometimeOct 08 16:00
cubexyzthere's a couple of things I'm curious aboutOct 08 16:00
cubexyzthere's even a Gentoo for IBM Z systemsOct 08 16:01
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XFaCEcubexyz: I have used Z/OS beforeOct 08 16:10
XFaCEthe GUI is... refreshing primitive :POct 08 16:10
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TweetTuxMachines                 Freshness and Usability https://t.co/OAWe2Qv2m9Oct 08 16:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA Linux Vulkan Performance vs. RADV / AMDGPU-PROOct 08 17:56
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MinceRhttp://www.vhemt.org/nofuture.jpgOct 08 17:59
cubexyz'07 but we're still around... ;)Oct 08 18:05
cubexyzno mad max yetOct 08 18:06
cubexyzBizarro reminds me of the Far Side a bitOct 08 18:11
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe-l%27%C5%93ilOct 08 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trompe-l'œil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pv0bm ]Oct 08 18:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/784805517122236416Oct 08 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz You mean you'd like to be buried at sea or actually be minced & sold as feed to a salmon waterfarm? ;-)Oct 08 18:22
schestowitzThe latter would profit for me, so no, the formerOct 08 18:22
schestowitzThe latter would profit from me, so no, the formerOct 08 18:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784799523289772032Oct 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Frameworks 5.27 Released for Plasma 5.8 with New MIMEOct 08 19:05
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/a/YUNgzOct 08 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super accurated cosplays you can't believe they could exist. - Album on ImgurOct 08 19:27
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/ysCcDnSOct 08 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My phone wanted to make a call and connect to the mall wifi at the same time on the same screen. - ImgurOct 08 21:09
cubexyzah a pity, discovered another part of Unix v5 is missing: splineOct 08 21:25
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cubexyzwow, did Unix v5 cc use extern or notOct 08 21:27
cubexyzok, yes it did... so there's a change that the v5 version of cc could compile Unix v6 spline.cOct 08 21:29
cubexyzok, this is one complex chunk of codeOct 08 21:34
cubexyzif this works, it will be the most complex program recompiled for v5Oct 08 21:35
cubexyzv6 and v5 spline.c could be the same, I don't have any way of knowingOct 08 21:35
cubexyzbahOct 08 21:41
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Nothing seems to be raising Lenovo's stock price for very long.Oct 08 22:36
DaemonFCThe Linux news goes out, it drops from $5.24 HKD to $5.09. They announce the Motorola layoffs, it bounces back for a few days, then goes back down. They announce they're acquiring Fujitsu's PC business, same thing.Oct 08 22:37
DaemonFCIt seems to be finding its support around 5.14-5.20 HKDOct 08 22:37
DaemonFChttp://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/Oct 08 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo won't make Windows 10 phones due to Microsoft's commitment issuesOct 08 22:38
DaemonFCSomeone asked why it would be an issue since "Windows 10 is the same OS on every device.".Oct 08 22:39
DaemonFCNot true. Those phones require customization by the OEM.Oct 08 22:39
MinceRthere's no customization that would make Backdoors10 not shitOct 08 22:39
DaemonFCMinceR, I mean to get it running on each device.Oct 08 22:40
MinceRmy condolencesOct 08 22:40
DaemonFCThere's a reason they can't offer hundreds of phones running Windows 10. They would run into the same problem you get with Android.Oct 08 22:40
MinceRwhich "problem", diversity?Oct 08 22:41
DaemonFCApple has to support a handful of phones. Android OEMs have to customize the firmware for each device.Oct 08 22:41
MinceRor that there are few devices that aren't shit?Oct 08 22:41
MinceRyeah, all of crApple's devices are garbageOct 08 22:41
MinceRand so is the OS running on themOct 08 22:41
DaemonFCIntel had a plan to make phones where the same Android image would run on all of them.Oct 08 22:41
DaemonFCThey backed out though, so we have to deal with this ARM mess some more.Oct 08 22:42
MinceRah, ARM being a total mess is the problemOct 08 22:42
DaemonFCThe SoCs are all very different.Oct 08 22:43
DaemonFCI'd like to have Intel smartphones. It would help the OEMs keep Android more current.Oct 08 22:44
DaemonFCToo much porting work. OEMs already don't want to support their older hardware. This just gives them something else to blame.Oct 08 22:46
MinceRtoo bad intel sucks at power consumptionOct 08 22:46
DaemonFCIt's not as bad as it used to be. There were a ton of unbelievably shitty Android phones running Gingerbread that went on for way too long.Oct 08 22:47
DaemonFCMinceR, Not their current stuff.Oct 08 22:47
MinceRso why isn't it in phones?Oct 08 22:47
DaemonFCI'm not entirely certain.Oct 08 22:48
DaemonFCA lot of these flagship phones running ARM SoCs get shit battery life.Oct 08 22:48
DaemonFCLike the Galaxy S6.Oct 08 22:48
MinceRit seems samsung got rid of the people who knew how to design phonesOct 08 22:49
DaemonFCThere have been numerous software updates for my phone, it still goes 100-0 in like 5-6 hours of actual use.Oct 08 22:49
DaemonFCThis is one of the worst phones I have ever owned.Oct 08 22:49
MinceRthey used to make a galaxy s5 which had a removable battery, memory card slot and was waterproofOct 08 22:49
MinceRnow all they make are hypePhone-imitating timebombsOct 08 22:50
DaemonFCJohn's S6 Edge cracked for no reason.Oct 08 22:50
DaemonFCIt was fine when he put it on the table and the next morning, the screen was cracked.Oct 08 22:50
MinceRthough maybe if they looked hard, they could find material for backplates that are even less fit for the purposeOct 08 22:50
MinceRsay, uraniumOct 08 22:50
MinceRor mercuryOct 08 22:50
DaemonFCMinceR, I'm trading in my S6 as soon as I can.Oct 08 22:50
DaemonFCIt's a lease, so I'm going to drop by Best Buy and turn it in the day the lease expires.Oct 08 22:51
DaemonFCI have about 10 months to go.Oct 08 22:51
DaemonFCThe next phone must have Micro SD slot, removable battery, and stock Android without bloatware.Oct 08 22:51
MinceRdo such phones even exist?Oct 08 22:52
DaemonFCMinceR, 5-6 hours is unacceptable, but it was worse.Oct 08 22:52
DaemonFCSprint and Samsung packed my phone full of battery killing crapware.Oct 08 22:52
DaemonFCOnedrive drains your power even if you never set up an account.Oct 08 22:52
DaemonFCIt keeps heckling you until you disable it.Oct 08 22:52
MinceRcan you use unlocked phones in the usa?Oct 08 22:53
DaemonFCAnd Sprint loaded Lookout, a horrible antivirus program that wastes power scanning every file and app.Oct 08 22:53
DaemonFCMinceR, You can, if you want to buy it for full price.Oct 08 22:53
DaemonFCSprint gave me a package deal that includes unlimited LTE data and unlimited calls and texts, and the phone is basically waived from the price of the plan.Oct 08 22:54
MinceRthat would get rid of the carrier's bloatwareOct 08 22:54
DaemonFCThey were really pushing the lease hard so that's why I got the S6. It was basically that or an iPhone.Oct 08 22:54
MinceRewOct 08 22:54
DaemonFCMinceR, I've been working around the shit battery life on the S6 by carrying a power bank around with me.Oct 08 22:55
MinceRmaybe they could try making phone casings out of radioactive gallium isotopesOct 08 22:56
DaemonFCSamsung phones have really been going downhill since the S6 came out.Oct 08 22:56
MinceRand beforeOct 08 22:57
cubexyzbackdoors10 not shit == impossibleOct 08 23:11
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/Oct 08 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : LenovoOct 08 23:11
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point 4 days ago Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCFailure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold.Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFC"Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo."Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFC[...]Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCSorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason:Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCLenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCError:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program.Oct 08 23:12
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DaemonFC[–]PlsAnswer19836 [S] 1 point 1 day ago Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCWhat do you mean?Oct 08 23:12
MinceRhttp://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1054.htmlOct 08 23:12
DaemonFC    permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplyOct 08 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.giantitp.com | Giant In the Playground Games [ http://ur1.ca/pv1ox ]Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCI mean that they won't give you a recovery stick in case Windows gets hosed and your OneKey Recovery doesn't work.Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCThat basically guarantees that eventually, many people will have to ship their laptop to Lenovo and hope they get it back sometime before the sun flash boils the oceans and then engulfs the inner planets. :)Oct 08 23:12
cubexyzyeah I think I'll give the Yoga a missOct 08 23:12
cubexyzjust a hunchOct 08 23:12
DaemonFCThe hardware is pretty nice.Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCIt's this damned BIOS that ruins it.Oct 08 23:13
MinceRi'll keep staying away from non-thinkpad lenovosOct 08 23:13
DaemonFCYou can't do anything except use Windows 10 with it.Oct 08 23:13
MinceRas i always did :>Oct 08 23:13
cubexyzand R30's :)Oct 08 23:13
cubexyzyou probably won't like those Oct 08 23:13
MinceRwhat are they like?Oct 08 23:14
cubexyzhard to fix, and they overheatOct 08 23:14
MinceRicOct 08 23:14
DaemonFCSo there's this company called AdReclaim that stuffs pages full of Clickbait "Taboola" style ads and pop-unders, but only if the user has ad blocking.Oct 08 23:14
DaemonFCIt exploits a bug in Chrome that stops content blockers from blocking websockets requests.Oct 08 23:15
DaemonFCThe company claims it can evade 100% of ad blockers, but that only seems to be the case in Chrome.Oct 08 23:15
DaemonFCIn Firefox, their method doesn't work. In Edge, their method doesn't work. In Internet Explorer with TPL ad blocking lists, their method doesn't work. In Opera with the built-in ad blocker, their method doesn't work.Oct 08 23:16
DaemonFCTwo-thirds of desktop web browser users now use Chrome, so maybe they figure that's good enough.Oct 08 23:16
DaemonFCTheir business will die off if Google ever decides to patch Chrome.Oct 08 23:16
DaemonFCMaybe they just plan to make as much money as they can until Google gets around to that.Oct 08 23:17
DaemonFCOr if enough sites deploy AdReclaim that people flood back to Firefox to get away from it.Oct 08 23:18
DaemonFCAdblock Plus still hasn't bothered to solve the Facebook issue. ublock-origin did.Oct 08 23:19
DaemonFCI guess ABP is too busy working on effectively becoming adware to worry about this.Oct 08 23:19
DaemonFCMinceR, I've been working on energy efficiency for a while now.Oct 08 23:20
DaemonFCBetween John and me, we're using about 4 kWh per day.Oct 08 23:20
DaemonFCThat's down from about 7 or 8. That's base load, not counting air conditioning, which we don't need for the better part of 9 months out of the year in Illinois.Oct 08 23:21
DaemonFCThe landlords run a boiler system for heat.Oct 08 23:21
DaemonFCIllinois will probably be facing an energy crisis within the next five years.Oct 08 23:22
DaemonFCComEd is threatening to shut down two nuclear power plants unless the state gives them a billion dollars and the state doesn't have a billion dollars because it's Illinois.Oct 08 23:23
DaemonFCSo we'll move from being a net exporter of power to a net importer of power.Oct 08 23:23
DaemonFCThe people running this state are idiots.Oct 08 23:24
DaemonFCThey've been asking voters to vote no on the transportation lockbox constitutional amendment (after they passed it and got it on the ballot to keep people from going door to door gathering support through a citizen initiative).Oct 08 23:25
DaemonFCThey're yanking a billion dollars a year from transportation taxes and spending it on other things, which is extremely stupid.Oct 08 23:25
DaemonFCWe get federal matching funds on almost all of the transportation projects that aren't being funded, so the state loses a billion a year from the federal government.Oct 08 23:26
DaemonFCSo I voted yes on the lockbox.Oct 08 23:26
DaemonFCI would have voted to stop them from raiding other things, if I could.Oct 08 23:26
DaemonFCAs far as the Democrats are concerned, the entire state should be sacrificed on the altar of unfunded teacher pensions.Oct 08 23:27
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/jpbrammer/status/784787726604333056Oct 08 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jpbrammer: Mike Pence is an earnest man who simply wants to electrocute LGBT children until they're straight. Shame he's been dragged into this mess.Oct 08 23:55
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schestowitzDaemonFC: on the upside...Oct 02 08:56
schestowitzhundreds saw your headlineOct 02 08:56
schestowitzand dozens read the bodyOct 02 08:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: are you OK with me reposting it in techrights?Oct 02 08:56
DaemonFCYeahOct 02 08:56
schestowitzis there enough background in there?Oct 02 08:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: this can go on for monthsOct 02 08:59
schestowitzand ought toOct 02 08:59
DaemonFCI don't know where to take this next.Oct 02 08:59
schestowitzDaemonFC: can you add an intro sentence?Oct 02 08:59
DaemonFCLike?Oct 02 08:59
schestowitzTo explain it's you who started the whole thing and what it did?Oct 02 09:00
schestowitzthe existing text being the latestOct 02 09:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: so that it doens't start like "Oh, yeah..."Oct 02 09:01
schestowitzDaemonFC: just once concise sentenceOct 02 09:02
schestowitzexplain it's you who starrted itOct 02 09:02
schestowitzI started typing it upOct 02 09:02
schestowitzmaybe reddit is useless (or the sub)Oct 02 09:03
schestowitzso we can use techrights now to keep it talked aboutOct 02 09:03
schestowitzDaemonFC: leave ir with meOct 02 09:04
schestowitzI'll write an introOct 02 09:05
DaemonFCYeah, you're probably better at that than I am.Oct 02 09:05
DaemonFCReddit punishes posts that aren't boring.Oct 02 09:06
DaemonFCCats and stuff.Oct 02 09:06
DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft has their own subreddits.Oct 02 09:06
DaemonFCjanemsft is a mod in the Windows 10 subreddit.Oct 02 09:06
DaemonFCerrr, jenmsftOct 02 09:07
schestowitzok, hang onOct 02 09:09
schestowitzalmost thereOct 02 09:09
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/55as6r/is_my_feedback_actually_used/Oct 02 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is my feedback actually used? : windowsphoneOct 02 09:09
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 02 09:09
DaemonFCNew Windows 10 releases fix one thing and break something else (sometimes even the update itself won't install).Oct 02 09:09
DaemonFCIt feels like Microsoft is shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.Oct 02 09:09
DaemonFChttps://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/81659/microsoft-delivers-yet-another-broken-windows-10-updateOct 02 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Delivers Yet Another Broken Windows 10 Update - Thurrott.comOct 02 09:13
DaemonFC"Microsoft is pushing the idea that you should always patch your machine on the day the update is released as they often release security patches that fix vulnerabilities. But, until the company can get a handle on their quality control issues, such as the Anniversary update breaking millions of webcams, it feels like every time you run Windows update you are rolling the dice."Oct 02 09:14
DaemonFCOh good. Now you don't have to tape over the webcam if you're a high school student so your pervy principle won't use the RAT the school installed to your laptop to watch you naked in your bedroom. (Yeah, that actually happened a while ago.)Oct 02 09:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: fair to say it started in techrights irc?Oct 02 09:18
DaemonFCYeah.Oct 02 09:18
schestowitzok, waitOct 02 09:20
schestowitz5 minsOct 02 09:20
schestowitzfrom now on, write your rants in techrights tooOct 02 09:20
schestowitzthe corporate media is 'done' with itOct 02 09:20
schestowitzeven redditOct 02 09:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, The way many people respond in Reddit is odd.Oct 02 09:23
DaemonFCWhy would people be falling over themselves in defense of Microsoft there?Oct 02 09:23
DaemonFCMicrosoft hasn't done any favors for people who want to use Linux on their PC. uEFI has brought about literally thousands of problems all by itself even if the OEM isn't trying to lock Linux out.Oct 02 09:24
DaemonFCPCs are a lot more like Macs now. Bad firmware and all.Oct 02 09:24
DaemonFCI was excited for a while because I heard that uEFI would have an open source implementation.Oct 02 09:26
DaemonFCThen they based it on the open source implementation and signed it so only they could update it.Oct 02 09:26
cubexyzok, renewed cubeman.tk for another year... it's still freeOct 02 09:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga Problems http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/Oct 02 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | TechrightsOct 02 09:30
schestowitzforget about reddit for nowOct 02 09:30
schestowitzthe effort taken to prevent burial is hugeOct 02 09:30
schestowitzso use your own platformsOct 02 09:30
schestowitzthis kind of censorship in digg is why we needed boycottnovellOct 02 09:30
schestowitzat some stage people are not willing to let their platform be 'hijacked' by causesOct 02 09:31
schestowitzDaemonFC: not seen any coverage of it since FridayOct 02 09:31
schestowitzwhen I gave you a link about itOct 02 09:31
schestowitzand thsi coverage repeated the face-saving lieOct 02 09:31
DaemonFCYeah. I don't think that people are buying it.Oct 02 09:32
DaemonFCEven the people that try to make excuses for it probably wouldn't buy one themselves if they wanted to run Linux.Oct 02 09:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782486880113795072Oct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE: Mesa, Kernel, GNOME, KDE apps update in TumbleweedOct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rmrW42Ipej (news.opensuse.org)Oct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE NewsOct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782498196345982976Oct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois inOct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga ProblemsOct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org)Oct 02 09:33
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 09:33
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cubexyzI wouldn't have any problem getting a used Lenovo X60, T60 or X200 with librebootOct 02 09:37
cubexyzotherwise no lenovo for meOct 02 09:38
DaemonFCcubexyz, The hardware in this laptop is pretty decent. Windows 10 isn't.Oct 02 09:38
DaemonFCOne thing that really bugs me is that a lot of Windows apps are not meant to be used on HiDPI displays, so you get little butons and stuff and can't really use the app.Oct 02 09:39
DaemonFCPeazip is like that.Oct 02 09:39
cubexyzfor GM45 chipsets installing libreboot means the Intel management engine is goneOct 02 09:40
cubexyzthat's a big deal for meOct 02 09:40
DaemonFCIt can bring up the processor without IME?Oct 02 09:40
cubexyzyes, on certain modelsOct 02 09:41
cubexyzof course, some hardware just doesn't have management engine at allOct 02 09:43
cubexyzalso getting rid of that code gives you more room for other stuff for corebootOct 02 09:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pkrumins/status/782489296414601216Oct 02 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pkrumins: @schestowitz Tux celebrating Wine release. https://t.co/GbyXEM6oAjOct 02 09:45
cubexyzthere's a 5 megabits of ME codeOct 02 09:46
cubexyzthere's also a smaller version which is 3 megabitsOct 02 09:46
cubexyzcoreboot people now refer to Intel ME has "Panic level 9000+"Oct 02 09:47
cubexyzs/has/as/Oct 02 09:47
DaemonFCschestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701Oct 02 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo CommunityOct 02 09:50
cubexyzhere's a chart of the current ME situation:Oct 02 09:50
cubexyzhttps://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_EngineOct 02 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Intel Management Engine - corebootOct 02 09:50
cubexyzIntel ME is great for the NSA, bad for everyone elseOct 02 09:52
schestowitzyeahOct 02 09:56
schestowitzIntel Inside...Oct 02 09:56
schestowitzIntelligenceOct 02 09:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoftOct 02 09:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: "From a MS official site: " the Microsoft MVP Award is our way of saying Thanks!"" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfingOct 02 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - TechrightsOct 02 09:58
schestowitzDaemonFC: keep showing me links like thatOct 02 10:00
schestowitzI'll circulate best I can...Oct 02 10:00
cubexyzwhat you want for starters is a laptop with a socketed DIP or PLCC chipOct 02 10:00
cubexyzyou'll need a special tool for removing PLCC chipsOct 02 10:01
cubexyzbut you'll be save from bricking your laptopOct 02 10:02
cubexyzX200, X60, T60 etc merely has the _potential_ to be free of Intel MEOct 02 10:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/782505711720734720Oct 02 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7Oct 02 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Thus…it must be assumed the juvenile idiots all own their own domain & have set up their own Microsoft Exchange @ h… https://t.co/u1VPVBr0Y7Oct 02 10:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/td-p/3439442Oct 02 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo CommunityOct 02 10:04
cubexyzGigabyte GA-6BXC has a socketed DIP chip for BIOSOct 02 10:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782501624556220416Oct 02 10:12
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois inOct 02 10:12
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Order to Silence Discussion of #Linux on #Yoga ProblemsOct 02 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/06KEe7FOjm (techrights.org)Oct 02 10:12
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | TechrightsOct 02 10:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507065168236544Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Sabayon Bizarre But Useful https://t.co/YSwkTHTmk0Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (freedompenguin.com)Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Sabayon Bizarre But Useful - Freedom PenguinOct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782507698994704384Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 "special Korean Edition of neon's Developer EditionOct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 tracking the stable branch of KDE's code repositories."Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HWLl66OYaq (blogs.kde.org)Oct 02 10:13
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE neon Korean Developer Edition (... and future CJK Edition?) | blogs.kde.orgOct 02 10:13
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54j74w/can_someone_recommend_me_penetration_testing/Oct 02 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Can someone recommend me Penetration testing linux distros for slow Pc's? : linuxOct 02 10:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: I saw you in "Not the Lenovo Yoga!" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54uahw/linux_laptop_suggestions/Oct 02 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux laptop suggestions? : linuxOct 02 10:27
schestowitzI was trying to find whether someone mentioned LenovoOct 02 10:27
schestowitz"I bought a lenovo ideapad y700 earlier this year. It is a beautiful machine and runs Linux Mint perfectly. Excellent for gaming."Oct 02 10:27
DaemonFCschestowitz, It seems it's hit or miss. Probably since the MS deal is recent.Oct 02 10:28
DaemonFCThe first 900 didn't block Linux.Oct 02 10:28
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soj2/should_we_make_an_effort_to_make_hardware_stop/Oct 02 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should we make an effort to make hardware stop claiming to be "Linux Supported!" if it stopped working after a kernel released years ago? : linuxOct 02 10:33
schestowitzdid you see their MS patent deal?\Oct 02 10:33
schestowitzOEM deal?Oct 02 10:33
schestowitzand patent settlement?Oct 02 10:33
schestowitzMaybe only for Android, but it's a secret deal, so who knows...Oct 02 10:33
schestowitzI wrote about it in the summerOct 02 10:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782508631782817792Oct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Say not Goodbye, say #Sayonara https://t.co/3IFuZeysoVOct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ocsmag.com)Oct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Say not Goodbye, say Sayonara | OCS-MagOct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782513193369346048Oct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines                 The Problem with Linux Kernel Documentation, and HowOct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines                 We’re Fixing it https://t.co/ghIqiU7BE9 (blogs.s-osg.org)Oct 02 10:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.s-osg.org/problem-linux-kernel-documentation-fixing/ )Oct 02 10:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: "Whatever you do stay away from the Thinkpad X230, worst trackpad I've ever used." https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54jyuc/decent_linux_laptop_for_2016/ #lenovo ruins #ibm businessOct 02 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Decent Linux Laptop for 2016? : linuxOct 02 10:38
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 02 10:41
DaemonFCStay away from recent Lenovo Yogas. They don't let you install Linux at all. So unless wasting your money on a fast SSD that Linux can't even see and resorting to running it off a SD card or thumb drive is something you want to do, stay away from Lenovo. Lenovo no = Not good for Linux. If anything the problem will get worse.Oct 02 10:41
DaemonFCerr, meant to say Lenovo = not good for LinuxOct 02 10:42
DaemonFCchanged thatOct 02 10:42
DaemonFCWe should make sure to emphasize that so that people think Lenovo and then "I probably can't run Linux on that.".Oct 02 10:42
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/556rkk/is_it_safe_to_install_gnome_320_on_ubuntu_16041/Oct 02 10:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is it safe to install GNOME 3.20 on Ubuntu 16.04.1 using ppa? : linuxOct 02 10:50
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54p0gg/the_us_presidential_candidates_on_technology/Oct 02 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The U.S. presidential candidates on technology, privacy issues [including use of open source software in government] : linuxOct 02 10:51
schestowitz"Can someone find that video of Hillary Clinton tripping all over herself to figure out what Firefox and open source software were when she was SoS and a federal employee asked her why they had to use Internet Explorer?"Oct 02 10:51
schestowitzLOL at " tripping all over herself"Oct 02 10:52
schestowitzhttp://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/Oct 02 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ijr.com | I Protected Hillary Clinton In The Secret Service - Here's Why Her 'Fainting' Video Really Scares MeOct 02 10:52
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vfux/what_do_you_think_about_the_business_model_of/Oct 02 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What do you think about the business model of Parted Magic? : linuxOct 02 10:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, too soon?Oct 02 11:00
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z4UEr2ekOYOct 02 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hillary Clinton thinks saving money is complicated - YouTubeOct 02 11:02
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schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54vdp8/lenovo_courts_devs_with_moto_z_source_code_release/Oct 02 11:03
schestowitz"I see the development kit is apparently released and the kernel sources is apparently released. Is the bootloader locked? Does this mean that I am able to actually compile the kernel myself and install it on the phone? Am I able to compile Android myself as well? What restrictions are there?"Oct 02 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Courts Devs With Moto Z Source Code Release : linuxOct 02 11:04
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schestowitzhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12578204Oct 02 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | So while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in ge... | Hacker NewsOct 02 11:12
schestowitz"Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzSo while this is on HN, I wanted to talk a bit about LXQt and desktop OSes in general.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzContext: I'm one of the original leads on LXQt, and I initiated the merge of Razor-qt and LXDE-Qt into LXQt.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzI've been using LXQt as my main desktop for several years now. I've kept up with what other desktops have been doing. I've been especially impressed by the efforts of the GNOME team, and especially disappointed with the clusterfuck KDE has become... but those are just details.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzI feel like the Linux desktop is dead, and one of the worst examples of open source software right now.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitzAlmost nobody actually collaborates on anything. Everybody wants to do their own thing and it leads to developer fragmentation. Every project is undermanned. LXQt is especially undermanned right now. The Cinnamon guys, last I heard, want to switch to Qt but don't have the developers to do it and would end up being a LXQt clone.Oct 02 11:12
schestowitz"Oct 02 11:12
cubexyzcome on, linux is definitely not deadOct 02 11:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/premierleague/status/782525961799598080Oct 02 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7Oct 02 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@premierleague: Leicester ✅ Arsenal ✅ Spurs ✅ Man City ✅ Man Utd ✅ Southampton ✅ Last season’s top SIX are all in #PL action tod… https://t.co/CAzSuSs4c7Oct 02 11:25
schestowitzsite down? https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtmlOct 02 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ https://jxself.org/not-copyleft.shtml )Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782521042388516865Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 "Welcome to the 36th installation of This Week in Solus."Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GdQBkAD01N (solus-project.com)Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #36 | SolusOct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782523195349954561Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 What’s New in Elementary OS 0.4 LokiOct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6LlMIFEKOT (linuxscoop.com)Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | What's New in Elementary OS 0.4 Loki - Linux ScoopOct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782524963865653248Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Why kernel development still uses emailOct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JRKkuuxSze (lwn.net)Oct 02 11:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why kernel development still uses email [LWN.net]Oct 02 11:28
cubexyzoh man that's brutal... they tried to OCR frakturOct 02 11:31
cubexyzjust buy the english translation :-POct 02 11:32
schestowitzhttps://camo.githubusercontent.com/b07bd2390cdd348e6404e46a97e3f35d2be5c25e/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f7444314f4251332e706e67Oct 02 11:46
schestowitzhttp://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-signature-pc-program-allegedly-blocks-installation-of-linux-or-does-itOct 02 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? | HotHardwareOct 02 11:48
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54e5w1/microsoft_signature_pc_program_allegedly_blocks/Oct 02 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Signature PC Program Allegedly Blocks Installation Of Linux, Or Does It? : linuxOct 02 11:48
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpgOct 02 12:12
*TweetTuxMachines @jiem1978 favourited '#Lenovo Forums Banned All #Comcast Users in #Illinois...'Oct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782528689179426816Oct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 "competing projects create and spread FUD about LinuxOct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Mint in an effort to promote their own distribution."Oct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MJXNiXnERO (segfault.linuxmint.com)Oct 02 12:13
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segfault.linuxmint.com | Addressing FUD ← SegfaultOct 02 12:13
cubexyzoh dear...Oct 02 12:21
cubexyzhttps://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/10/01/2155209/multiple-linux-distributions-affected-by-crippling-bug-in-systemdOct 02 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Multiple Linux Distributions Affected By Crippling Bug In Systemd - SlashdotOct 02 12:21
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpgOct 02 12:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543065571393537Oct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives https://t.co/WXp7PRgY2COct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543067450441730Oct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/iO4C5DPSJGOct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543069212139520Oct 02 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uzwoydirQwOct 02 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:30
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543071225389056Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/8dCqMvb47IOct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543072433352704Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/wIkEXy5q11Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 02 12:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782543132567146496Oct 02 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 2/10/2016:  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXELOct 02 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016:Oct 02 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEOct 02 12:38
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | TechrightsOct 02 12:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916536Oct 02 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The media no longer seems to be interested in us showing it that #lenovo lied. I guess they see no business model/gain in it.Like #superfishOct 02 12:41
cubexyznot to often I see Plan 9 advocacyOct 02 12:41
cubexyzhonestly though it's simpler just to use slackOct 02 12:53
cubexyzIf I'm doing the programming you can be sure I'm going to test on openbsd, slackware, FC1, and maybe Fedora 14Oct 02 12:59
cubexyzI stopped using Fedora after version 14Oct 02 12:59
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/mNxDJU5Oct 02 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This site login - ImgurOct 02 14:09
XRevan86MinceR: That's an interesting way of exploit protection.Oct 02 14:10
MinceRindeedOct 02 14:11
XRevan86"You're using eval? You should think of security: forbid quotation mark usage."Oct 02 14:11
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/MSF89TT.gifvOct 02 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLEOct 02 14:32
cubexyzummmOct 02 14:37
cubexyzyeah the word shell definitely could be part of an email addressOct 02 14:38
cubexyzlol at the tetris picOct 02 14:40
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/jJ80AgJ.jpgOct 02 15:11
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/aE42F1B.pngOct 02 15:20
XRevan86MinceR: So was faith of most of Russians. But then Yeltsin fixed it by making capitalism worse than Gorbachov's reforms.Oct 02 15:26
MinceRthat is, in russiaOct 02 15:28
MinceRhe couldn't make it worse anywhere elseOct 02 15:28
XRevan86I think Yeltsin is the reason why Russian population in general doesn't like regime changes.Oct 02 15:29
MinceRbut putler willOct 02 15:29
XRevan86They know on their skin it can get much worse.Oct 02 15:29
XRevan86Because even Gorbachov wasn't that bad as what regime change delivered.Oct 02 15:30
XRevan86> he couldn't make it worse anywhere elseOct 02 15:32
XRevan86MinceR: That's a weird thought.Oct 02 15:33
MinceRwhy would it be?Oct 02 15:33
XRevan86It's very hard to make worse something that was already near bottom.Oct 02 15:33
MinceRglobal nuclear winter will make capitalism worseOct 02 15:33
MinceRas in, we all starve to deathOct 02 15:33
MinceRplants die without lightOct 02 15:33
MinceRanything that eats plants dies without foodOct 02 15:33
XRevan86People genuinely thought any change could go only up because below was only the floor.Oct 02 15:33
MinceRthey'll find out that it can indeed get worseOct 02 15:34
MinceRand maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worseOct 02 15:34
XRevan86MinceR: I mean, realisticly worse.Oct 02 15:34
XRevan86not nuclear worseOct 02 15:34
MinceRthat's quite realisticOct 02 15:34
XRevan86> and maybe they'll realize that they are the ones who are making it worseOct 02 15:35
XRevan86Humans are jerks.Oct 02 15:35
MinceRindeedOct 02 15:35
XRevan86Don't blame the 1%, blame the 100%.Oct 02 15:35
XRevan86Damn, I hope that won't catch on.Oct 02 15:35
MinceR:>Oct 02 15:38
MinceRhttp://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/09/30/mads-caption-contest-winnerOct 02 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | MAD’s Caption Contest Winner! | Mad MagazineOct 02 15:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782545040946192384Oct 02 15:48
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 2/10/2016:  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXELOct 02 15:48
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/TUbdahLTCT (techrights.org) Links 2/10/2016:Oct 02 15:48
TweetTuxMachines                  Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEOct 02 15:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/10/2016: Wine 1.9.20, Raspberry Pi PIXEL | TechrightsOct 02 15:48
MinceRhttp://wandpcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/WandP49site.pngOct 02 15:51
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cubexyzoh boy, someone at google books got CPE Bach and Johann Sebastian Bach mixed upOct 02 16:31
MinceR:)Oct 02 16:32
cubexyzrather disappointingOct 02 16:32
cubexyzCarl was the 2nd son of Johann Sebastian in case anyone was wonderingOct 02 16:38
cubexyz1714 to 1788Oct 02 16:39
MinceRhttp://www.sciencealert.com/80-of-the-data-in-chinese-clinical-trial-is-fabricatedOct 02 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-80% of data in Chinese clinical trials have been fabricated - ScienceAlertOct 02 16:40
cubexyzI was a bit taken aback over the price of the NovenaOct 02 16:42
cubexyz$500 for just the motherboardOct 02 16:42
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Z1h6NjNOct 02 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Great sorting job Outlook for Mac - very useful - ImgurOct 02 16:42
MinceRtoo bad the novena case is not conducive for use in lapOct 02 16:42
MinceRthe same issue exists with most "2 in 1"sOct 02 16:43
cubexyzwhat's the problem with it?Oct 02 16:43
cubexyzI suppose you mean the monitor being turned around the other way?Oct 02 16:43
MinceRthere's no place where you can put the keyboard that is connected to the display so you can hold the whole thing by holding on to the keyboard/wristpadOct 02 16:43
MinceRyeahOct 02 16:44
MinceRso either the computer or the keyboard will fall off your lapOct 02 16:44
schestowitzJuve translation is half done.Oct 02 16:44
schestowitzto be posted in techrights soon, re EPO liesOct 02 16:44
cubexyzI can't think of anything decent laptop-wise other than chromebooks Oct 02 16:45
cubexyzI guess X200 with libreboot would be OKOct 02 16:46
MinceRthinkpads still seem to be fine, aside from the usual issues like intel ME and m$ taxOct 02 16:46
cubexyzwell you'd most likely be looking at a used one for X200Oct 02 16:47
MinceRi mostly looked at the x260Oct 02 16:48
MinceRcomes with an intel gpu that's more powerful than any gpu i ever hadOct 02 16:48
MinceRand finally they made them black againOct 02 16:49
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cubexyzthe old R30's weren't very repairable :-/Oct 02 16:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782607511815847936Oct 02 16:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNWOct 02 16:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 16:50
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 02 16:50
MinceRwell, the R series was the old cheapness-oriented series, wasn't it?Oct 02 16:50
cubexyzcould beOct 02 16:50
cubexyzthat x260 is going to generate a lot of heatOct 02 16:51
MinceRi didn't have issues with cooling before, except when there was accumulated dust in my x220itOct 02 16:52
cubexyzbut it looks pretty decent otherwise... if you ignore the win10 preloaded Oct 02 16:52
MinceRi cleaned it out and the issue went awayOct 02 16:52
MinceRwell, yeahOct 02 16:52
MinceRaccording to   https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X260   it still supports legacy bootOct 02 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.freebsd.org | Laptops/Thinkpad_X260 - FreeBSD WikiOct 02 16:52
cubexyzthat's a big plusOct 02 16:53
MinceRindeedOct 02 16:53
MinceRas far as i'm concerned, a requirement :>Oct 02 16:53
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917144Oct 02 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boycott #lenovo for blocking #gnu #linux and #bsd http://www.maxhost.org/other/thumbs-down-lenovo.jpg latest: http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/Oct 02 16:54
schestowitz"Really. I was thinking of getting a Lenovo machine. Well I better stay with Dell, they make great machines."Oct 02 16:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNW'Oct 02 16:54
cubexyzI can report the HP chromebook 14 with Tegra K1 doesn't get hot at allOct 02 16:54
MinceRlol, dHellOct 02 16:54
schestowitzAcer and ASUS are OK also, maybe HPOct 02 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | TechrightsOct 02 16:54
cubexyzand it's fanless... had it in my lap for hoursOct 02 16:54
MinceRschestowitz had complaints about an hp chromebookOct 02 16:54
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139Oct 02 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpgOct 02 16:54
MinceR(the keyboard, specifically)Oct 02 16:54
schestowitzMinceR: yesOct 02 16:54
schestowitzwe returned itOct 02 16:54
schestowitzswapped for AcerOct 02 16:54
cubexyzit's tolerable :)Oct 02 16:54
MinceR:)Oct 02 16:54
schestowitzcubexyz: ^ your image agoOct 02 16:55
schestowitz*aboveOct 02 16:55
cubexyznot the greatest, I admitOct 02 16:55
MinceRtoo bad hp's website is a total pain in the ass to useOct 02 16:55
schestowitz"Ah, Okay."Oct 02 16:55
schestowitz"Why are people complaining about the change?"Oct 02 16:55
schestowitz"http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemd"Oct 02 16:55
MinceRso i have no idea what i'd buy if i were to buy hpOct 02 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for youOct 02 16:55
cubexyzI don't even really like talking to HPOct 02 16:55
cubexyzI'm sure they don't enjoy talking to me much eitherOct 02 16:55
MinceR:>Oct 02 16:55
cubexyzbut I still use two of their computers and they're not badOct 02 16:56
MinceRit's nice to have more data pointsOct 02 16:57
cubexyzhmmm, I'll have to look at the acer with Tegra K1Oct 02 16:58
cubexyzalmost everything comes with win10Oct 02 17:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RichardBaeck/status/782612592657330178Oct 02 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardBaeck: RT @schestowitz #Bees added to US endangered species list for the first time https://t.co/kXAWhF9EXR it's startingOct 02 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://gnusocial.de/url/3144843 )Oct 02 17:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AnarchistDalek/status/782613687257313280Oct 02 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnarchistDalek: 🤔 https://t.co/QyvXXFnMUiOct 02 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Read this: https://t.co/OEyumMGvUQ And then this: https://t.co/FEGKzKqOOB Some people pretend better https://t.co/dZAc866OIeOct 02 17:13
cubexyzlenovo has got 325 thumbs down so far :)Oct 02 17:39
schestowitzwhere?Oct 02 17:45
cubexyzjust the pic being downloaded 325 timesOct 02 17:45
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/god-the-action-figure.jpgOct 02 17:46
cubexyzwith AK-47? Oct 02 17:46
XRevan86cubexyz: Looks like a jediOct 02 17:47
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XRevan86> with kalashnikov AK-47Oct 02 17:49
XRevan86Tautology.Oct 02 17:49
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/O5aX0rCOct 02 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discard submission? Cancel uploads? I don't know what to do, Imgur... - ImgurOct 02 18:16
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7912310Oct 02 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lenovo is lying about #microsoft #linux and now about #layoffs http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.htm just as it lied about #superfish repeatedlyOct 02 18:58
schestowitz"So they’ve been telling lies by making out it was a Linux Kernel problem."Oct 02 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft At Fault? : Tech : GamenguideOct 02 18:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7917139Oct 02 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian with #systemd http://www.maxhost.org/other/debian-sinking-under-systemd.jpgOct 02 18:59
schestowitz"Although I don’t use Debian, I did not understand why they made this move considering their philosophy."Oct 02 18:59
schestowitz"Quiero llorar."Oct 02 18:59
schestowitz"What? The choice of systemd over the previous system (what was the name of the previus system)??"Oct 02 18:59
schestowitz"Prior to systemD was sysVInit."Oct 02 18:59
schestowitz"Ah, Okay."Oct 02 19:00
schestowitz"Why are people complaining about the change?"Oct 02 19:00
schestowitzhttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=whats+wrong+with+systemdOct 02 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lmgtfy.com | Let me google that for you [ http://ur1.ca/ptxau ]Oct 02 19:00
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8vOct 02 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google wasn't much help with physics homework - ImgurOct 02 19:03
MinceRhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemdOct 02 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Arguments against systemd - Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jwtd5 ]Oct 02 19:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7916622Oct 02 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Andy_Lenovo, Administrator: "Microsoft MVPs are generous people who assist other computer users" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-Housekeeping/Re-Yoga-900-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing-hard/m-p/3439701#U3439701 #lenovo #mirosoftOct 02 19:07
schestowitz"Oct 02 19:07
schestowitzHe’s on the wrong side. Generous or not.Oct 02 19:07
schestowitzMaybe there were generous Nazis too…but still it’s on the wrong side.Oct 02 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forums.lenovo.com | Re: Yoga 900 - BIOS update for setting RAID mode f... - Lenovo CommunityOct 02 19:07
schestowitz"Oct 02 19:07
schestowitzMicrosoft MVPs compared to Nazis... :/ :-SOct 02 19:07
MinceRnazis were pretty evilOct 02 19:09
MinceRstill areOct 02 19:09
cubexyzhopefully we can guilt Lenovo into fixing their biosOct 02 19:10
MinceRand their customer serviceOct 02 19:13
MinceRand their attitudeOct 02 19:13
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cubexyzhelping people use windows isn't really helping themOct 02 19:33
cubexyzeach generation will get more and more dependent on Microsoft and less and less able to do things for themselvesOct 02 19:34
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cubexyzI remember one guy putting a new version of windows on their computer...Oct 02 19:36
cubexyzhe couldn't use his scanner or his printer afterwardsOct 02 19:36
cubexyzhe went out and bought a new printer and new scanner... duh!Oct 02 19:37
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schestowitz[19:03] <MinceR> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WtFnu8vOct 02 19:45
schestowitzwrong answer.Oct 02 19:45
schestowitzmaybe 'ai' bs failureOct 02 19:45
MinceR:>Oct 02 19:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/782609646133518336Oct 02 19:45
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/SrJ12qXLNWOct 02 19:45
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 19:45
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 02 19:45
TweetTuxMachines@SwellnessYoga   http://twitter.com/SwellnessYoga/status/782611963637620740Oct 02 19:45
TweetTuxMachines                 The latest SWELLNESS YOGA! https://t.co/pIYygKwuxTOct 02 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (paper.li) Thanks to @nomondeb73 @tw57704087 @tuxmachinesOct 02 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 #yoga #fitnessOct 02 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | SWELLNESS YOGAOct 02 19:46
TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 19:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/782652057161461760Oct 02 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @AntiSoftwarePat @zoobab @schestowitz Have you guys seen Australia's Productivity Commission's IP report? Slams Software PatentsOct 02 19:46
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MinceRhttps://65.media.tumblr.com/363171b17c048cb26acbb9c9ea9f0175/tumblr_odk9o0nqMN1s02vreo1_250.gifOct 02 20:29
cubexyzthe local computer store is selling Gigabyte 5010 no OS computersOct 02 20:38
cubexyzspam alert for tuxmachinesOct 02 20:58
cubexyzfootball streaming linksOct 02 20:58
cubexyzAmerican Football I think :)Oct 02 20:59
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHAOct 02 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Banach–Tarski Paradox - YouTubeOct 02 21:18
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/50V1VAB.jpgOct 02 21:28
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DaemonFCschestowitz, They just approved a couple of posts to the ISK2 topic.Oct 02 21:34
DaemonFCI know they're blocking some because one of my posts didn't appear and I've heard from someone else that it took 3 days before theirs did.Oct 02 21:34
DaemonFChttps://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6Oct 02 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-Yoga-900-BIOS-Unlock-AHCI-enable-attached-BIOS-fd?page=6 )Oct 02 21:43
DaemonFCApparently, the 900S is worse. You can't even dump the BIOS at all according to one person on this forum.Oct 02 21:43
DaemonFCIt seems that annoying "Get Windows 10" app was hidden in a critical security update to Internet Explorer.Oct 02 21:45
DaemonFCInteresting.Oct 02 21:45
MinceRhttp://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/151093453030/gdbOct 02 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | gdb - DevOps ReactionsOct 02 22:07
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brendynIs this legit, https://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.html ?Oct 02 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liltinkerer.surge.sh | NoScript is harmful and promotes Malware! - liltinkerer [ http://ur1.ca/ptyq6 ]Oct 02 22:22
MinceRdunno, i pretty much reflexively close that pageOct 02 22:24
MinceRa clean fork would be welcomeOct 02 22:26
MinceRi guess it will be inevitable anyway if noscript updates to fit the chrome-ish API in the newer, shittier failfoxOct 02 22:39
DaemonFCMinceR, Matthew Garrett is retweeting Donald Trump.Oct 02 22:42
MinceRlolOct 02 22:42
DaemonFCI think that Garrett is British. They seem to have no shortage of Trump clones over there.Oct 02 22:42
MinceRindeedOct 02 22:42
MinceRre the second sentenceOct 02 22:42
MinceRdunno about the firstOct 02 22:42
DaemonFCNigel Farage, Boris Johnson....Oct 02 22:43
DaemonFCAt least Garrett can stay over there and screw his own country.Oct 02 22:43
MinceRlooks like we're all screwedOct 02 22:43
DaemonFCYeah, most "Western Democracies" are showing that they don't deserve democracy much more than the Islamic Republics do. :POct 02 22:44
DaemonFCTruly sad. I mean, you'd expect what happens when you give a bunch of Muslims a democracy...Oct 02 22:45
DaemonFCWe get some of the ones that are trying to flee what the others are doing to them.Oct 02 22:45
DaemonFCAnd we get some of the ones that are hardliners too. They come over here and tell us how much they hate us.Oct 02 22:45
MinceRindeedOct 02 22:46
MinceRand the savages in the west are coming out of the woodworkOct 02 22:46
MinceRfor brexit, Golden Dawnald, and for other callsOct 02 22:46
DaemonFCMinceR, It's scary how close Trump is in the polls.Oct 02 22:47
DaemonFCThe fact that he *could* win. The fact that someone like him could come back in 4-8 years and be that close even if he doesn't.Oct 02 22:48
DaemonFCThe only thing that we can really hope for is that demographic shift happens. Clinton gets in and we get business as usual again while the people who like Trump fade a little bit more. (They're dying off but they're dangerous because they know they're fading and so nearly all of them are going to vote.)Oct 02 22:49
DaemonFCThat's what we have going on. He's whipping the vote.Oct 02 22:50
MinceRmaybe we'll find a way to only kill off humans, leaving the rest of the biosphere intactOct 02 22:50
DaemonFCMeanwhile, the other side is lukewarm about Hillary so even though we theoretically outnumber Trump's supporters, the turnout will be lower.Oct 02 22:50
DaemonFCIf it wasn't for Republican voters being older and more of them dying off then Trump would probably win this year.Oct 02 22:51
DaemonFCIf we had an exact repeat of the 2012 election (turnout, demographics, etc.) Obama would have a net total of about 453,000 more votes.Oct 02 22:53
DaemonFCWell, Clinton I mean.Oct 02 22:53
DaemonFCBut she's not making people feel good about voting for her. Her entire campaign is "I'm not Trump.".Oct 02 22:53
MinceRhm, NotTrump sounds pretty goodOct 02 22:54
DaemonFCWould the extra die off on the Republican side help by itself?Oct 02 22:54
DaemonFCDepends on where they die.Oct 02 22:54
DaemonFCThe Electoral College means that if most of them die in, say, Texas, that doesn't really help Clinton.Oct 02 22:55
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/1sDkHgZOct 02 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-420 install it - ImgurOct 02 22:55
DaemonFCIf more of them die in states like Ohio or North Carolina, it could tip the balance.Oct 02 22:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782652807757258752Oct 02 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/AWZcX14xhROct 02 22:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782701648288165888Oct 02 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, ShipsOct 02 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 https://t.co/e6FdwTYgTyOct 02 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 02 23:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux 2016.10.01 Now Available for Download, Ships with Linux Kernel 4.7.5 | Tux MachinesOct 02 23:00
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/NG3VXOct 02 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- TV thinks Will Smith is Japanese? ウィル・スミス - Album on ImgurOct 02 23:19
DaemonFCI just read Matthew Garrett's response to the Lenovo thing in full.Oct 02 23:24
DaemonFC"The number of people who buy these laptops to run anything but Windows is miniscule[...]" So why increase your support costs?Oct 02 23:24
DaemonFCHmmm. Seems to me that about 2% would eventually install Linux (conservative estimate). If they sell for $1300-$1,500 apiece and people know not to buy them now, that means that for every 1,000 laptops that they would have sold, they now sell 20 fewer units, and those sales go to a competitor.Oct 02 23:26
DaemonFCIf they sell a million laptops, then they lose 20,000 sales to a competitor.Oct 02 23:27
DaemonFCIt might not sound like much, but it is. PC margins are thin because there are a lot of PC OEMs that make computers that are similar and "good enough". Chances are their profit margin is only 3-5%, maybe.Oct 02 23:28
DaemonFCI hear that's the norm in PC sales, and that's for units with crapware, but I'm sure that Lenovo is either getting rebates for participating in Signature or just passed along the cost of not bundling the crapware to me.Oct 02 23:29
DaemonFCRegardless, PC sales have been in decline for years.Oct 02 23:31
DaemonFCLenovo suffered a 4.2% year over year decline in Q4 2015 vs Q4 2014.Oct 02 23:31
DaemonFCDo they really want to go back and say they declined more this quarter? Looks that way.Oct 02 23:31
DaemonFCThey could have released a BIOS patch for Linux users immediately, but they chose to give their customers the middle finger and ride this thing into the ground instead.Oct 02 23:32
DaemonFCI'm sure Dell or HP will appreciate the new customers.Oct 02 23:32
DaemonFCI would have bought an HP Spectre or a Dell XPS had I known.Oct 02 23:32
MinceRdHell doesn't appreciate customers, only their moneyOct 02 23:33
DaemonFCMinceR, They responded by re-enabling the AHCI option instead of lying to their customers.Oct 02 23:34
DaemonFCThat's better than what Lenovo did.Oct 02 23:34
cubexyzit isOct 02 23:34
DaemonFCIt seems like every time I buy a computer, an OEM has done something to fuck up Linux.Oct 02 23:34
DaemonFCUsually something stupid. Usually something I've never seen them do before.Oct 02 23:35
MinceRthey responded to me by claiming the keyboard is not under warranty, and by claiming they have no idea when they'll have replacement partsOct 02 23:35
MinceRalso by replacing the faulty GPU with another faulty GPUOct 02 23:35
MinceRso fuck dHellOct 02 23:35
DaemonFCSo a pattern emerges. And if you approach it as an isolated incident, people say "It was just an innocent mistake.".Oct 02 23:35
DaemonFCBut if they all do it nearly every time they release something, I believe there are....other resons.Oct 02 23:35
DaemonFCShame on Matthew Garrett for excusing this. He's made more blog posts than I can count on how OEMs try to detect Linux and then hand it a shitty configuration.Oct 02 23:36
DaemonFCHe even admitted in one of them that they detect Linux by which version of ACPI it says it supports and then hand it off to the kernel without setting up the audio chipset or telling it there are the wrong number of function keys.Oct 02 23:37
DaemonFCSo he had to patch it to say the same thing Windows returns (2 instead of 5) so that the firmware wouldn't fuck up the configuration before handing off to Linux.Oct 02 23:38
DaemonFCHe doesn't see a problem with that? Oct 02 23:38
DaemonFCOr if he does he blames the vendor.Oct 02 23:38
DaemonFChttps://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/34542.htmlOct 02 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Vendors continue to break thingsOct 02 23:40
DaemonFCThere's the post if anyone is interested.Oct 02 23:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782701649684856832Oct 02 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 NetworkManager 1.4.2 Released for GNU/Linux Distros withOct 02 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Various Improvements https://t.co/3jpeQ7mFiuOct 02 23:52
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TweetTuxMachines Oct 02 23:52
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cubexyzit's all horse-bleepOct 03 00:10
cubexyzthere's secret stuff in the firmware and you can dance around that all day but in the end you don't know what's going onOct 03 00:11
cubexyzand the newer hardware is much harder to understand than the older stuffOct 03 00:12
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/intel-me-secrets.pdfOct 03 00:16
cubexyzintel's running ThreadX in thereOct 03 00:23
cubexyzit can lock out memory from the host CPUOct 03 00:25
cubexyzmaybe I can visually inspect the board and know if it's got vpro or notOct 03 00:30
cubexyzif it's baked into the CPU (which I suspect it is) then I need a list of CPUs to avoidOct 03 00:31
DaemonFCcubexyz, Wikipedia says it's in the motherboard, but I suspect that it will be in the CPU eventually if it isn't already.Oct 03 00:33
DaemonFCThey've been moving things away from the motherboard and into the CPU. Including the integrated graphics. It's why motherboards are so cheap now.Oct 03 00:34
cubexyzIntel® DH82B85 PCH, no vPro but still has MEOct 03 00:36
cubexyzand they are already up to ME 9.0Oct 03 00:37
DaemonFCcubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware.Oct 03 00:39
cubexyzthere's something called the MEBxOct 03 00:39
cubexyzthe Management Engine BIOS eXtensionOct 03 00:39
DaemonFCSome Intel CPUs seem to be designed to lock up mysteriously after half an hour if the Management Engine isn't working for some reason.Oct 03 00:39
DaemonFCThen you have to make sure the firmware loads or your PC freezes up.Oct 03 00:40
MinceRwhat do chromebooks do about this?Oct 03 00:41
DaemonFCProbably load the ME, MinceR Oct 03 00:41
DaemonFCBut some Chromebooks are ditching Intel.Oct 03 00:41
MinceRafaik they don't load itOct 03 00:42
cubexyzyou can build your own custom BIOS on chromebooksOct 03 00:42
DaemonFCThe Acers seem to be going with ARM now.Oct 03 00:42
MinceR03 013929 < DaemonFC> cubexyz, I don't think that free BIOS replacements will ever succeed in killing off ME in new-ish hardware.Oct 03 00:42
MinceRthe whole point of "intel boot guard" was to lock alternative firmware (like coreboot and libreboot) out of the marketOct 03 00:42
MinceRit was a very microsoftian moveOct 03 00:42
cubexyzyou can hack on the chromebooks, so I'm not worried about thoseOct 03 00:42
cubexyzI have all that code Oct 03 00:43
DaemonFCMinceR, Eventually it will detect BIOS mods that you flashed in with an external flasher and refuse to boot.Oct 03 00:43
cubexyzif there's anything nasty in there I'll know about itOct 03 00:43
DaemonFCI don't think they're there yet because replacement BIOSes seem to work on the Yoga 900 ISK2 with Skylake.Oct 03 00:43
DaemonFCBut it won't let you flash it in without aa flasher unless there's a signature from Insyde or Lenovo on the ROM.Oct 03 00:44
cubexyzX200 with libreboot is pretty safeOct 03 00:44
DaemonFCIt doesn't seem to use checksum verification because the modded ROM that the guy on Lenovo Forums used wouldn't have matched the ROM that he pulled.Oct 03 00:45
DaemonFCThe only thing the people on the bios-mods forum seem to have done is remove code hiding some BIOS menus that are present but hidden by Lenovo.Oct 03 00:45
DaemonFC"bownairo" said he'd be looking into a way to fool the system into letting you flash without an external flasher.Oct 03 00:46
MinceRit seems to me that if IT is to survive at all, the free software/hardware community will have to take the whole stack in our own handsOct 03 00:46
DaemonFCIf that happens, users can fix their system themselves without a patch from Lenovo.Oct 03 00:46
MinceRwe'll have to figure out how to make cpus and computers from scratchOct 03 00:46
cubexyzwell, the ultimate hack would be your own FPGAOct 03 00:46
MinceRintel and all the others will only try to shit on everything we doOct 03 00:46
MinceRwe'll also need free fpga toolsOct 03 00:46
DaemonFCMinceR, Richard Stallman's solution is probably the easiest.Oct 03 00:47
DaemonFCBuy a laptop from China that uses an ARM platform and was made to run Linux.Oct 03 00:47
DaemonFCIf there was some way to set up a reliable supply chain for those, I'm sure that someone could have a somewhat profitable business selling them to people who want to get away from the Wintel PC and all of the horrible things it does to Linux, totally by accident of course. :POct 03 00:48
MinceRARM isn't very friendly either, afaikOct 03 00:49
DaemonFCMinceR, Depends on who is making them.Oct 03 00:49
MinceRfor every SoC you have to figure out how you can initialize the hw, how you can boot your code, etc.Oct 03 00:49
DaemonFCIt's just an ISA that you can license.Oct 03 00:49
DaemonFCAnyone who can come up with the licensing money can make ARM CPUs.Oct 03 00:49
MinceRand for most SoC makers/designers we are such a tiny part of the market that they just don't care about us at allOct 03 00:49
MinceRsee how far CubieBoard got with their stuffOct 03 00:50
DaemonFCMinceR, Intel's mobile platforms are essentially SoC now.Oct 03 00:50
DaemonFCThey have the controllers for damned near everything in the CPU package.Oct 03 00:50
cubexyzwell IBM Thinkpad 700 is 1992.. I figure that's old enough :)Oct 03 00:50
DaemonFCThat's why it's so hard to get power management right. You used to be able to do power management by component. If you got most of it down, the rest didn't really matter that much.Oct 03 00:50
DaemonFCPutting the SATA controller in low poer mode maybe saved you half a watt.Oct 03 00:51
DaemonFCNow if you can't get that right, the whole system breaks down and you're idling at twice the power consumption you should be at.Oct 03 00:51
DaemonFC*powerOct 03 00:51
DaemonFCAnd if you figure that out, there's half a dozen things that you also need to figure out or you're back in the same boat.Oct 03 00:52
DaemonFCSo I don't expect that Linux will ever have the power management Windows does for Skylake.Oct 03 00:53
MinceRthat depends on whether m$'s final gambits succeed or notOct 03 00:53
DaemonFCIt'll improve, like it has been, but it will reach a point where all of the easier things have been done and people lose interest.Oct 03 00:53
MinceRif they succeed, it's possible that it won't even be legal to run anything but the one government-approved thin client OS anymoreOct 03 00:53
MinceRif they fail, they'll go full patent troll and there won't be a "windows" anymoreOct 03 00:53
DaemonFCWhat really pisses me off to no end is that MS has released probably thousands of patches to individual components of Windows 10 by now, and saying each time that it makes Windows more reliable.Oct 03 00:54
DaemonFCSo why am I still hitting most of the same bugs that were in the first release?Oct 03 00:54
DaemonFCPeople know that and they know that even if the update installs and their machine comes back up that it won't be more reliable. Oct 03 00:55
DaemonFCSo they've taken to disabling the Windows Update service so they don't have a bad update that screws up their data.Oct 03 00:55
DaemonFCThat's not good either.Oct 03 00:55
cubexyzyou can disable AMT control on some intel motherboardsOct 03 00:59
cubexyznow who knows if it can be reactivatedOct 03 00:59
cubexyzbut if you compile your own coreboot BIOS on a chrome-whatever, I feel that is your best betOct 03 01:00
cubexyzor (not ideal) you could just run one old machine Oct 03 01:01
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TweetTuxMachines                 Legends of Linux Part 1: Linus TorvaldsOct 03 08:52
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Hopefully a fix for this RAID mode crap on my laptop can be done for Linux 4.9.Oct 03 08:56
DaemonFCNot counting on it though.Oct 03 08:57
schestowitzmaybeOct 03 09:02
schestowitzbut it should already workOct 03 09:02
schestowitzLenovo doesn't want it toOct 03 09:02
schestowitzkeep chasing themOct 03 09:02
schestowitzthey must be going nuts over youOct 03 09:03
schestowitzhaving special meetings on how to deal with youOct 03 09:03
schestowitzyou cost them many millionsOct 03 09:03
DaemonFChttps://gcoupe.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/the-lenovo-yoga-900-software/Oct 03 09:04
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DaemonFCschestowitz, According to Lenovo, if you use Windows Anytime Upgrade to get Windows 10 Pro, then they won't support it.Oct 03 09:04
DaemonFCUsers reporting that the Onekey recovery (used if you can't boot into Windows) isn't working for them.Oct 03 09:06
DaemonFCSo not only can you not install Linux or Windows from Microsoft's ISO, the recovery feature may not work and now you have a brick.Oct 03 09:06
DaemonFCWell, I made a special installer in case that happens to me, but it wasn't easy,Oct 03 09:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, Newegg made a reply to it.Oct 03 09:07
DaemonFCThey admitted that you couldn't install Linux on the models I pointed out and pointed out 10 Lenovo laptops that they sell which you can install Linux on.Oct 03 09:08
DaemonFCHow arbitrary...Oct 03 09:08
DaemonFCOh gee, see this company has shit support for Linux and shit support in general, so here's some laptops where you can shoehorn Linux in from this company that you don't want to do business with anyway.Oct 03 09:08
DaemonFCschestowitz, As for Alex St. John's comment that MS is adopting Apple's business model from 10 years ago, that does seem to be the case.Oct 03 09:09
DaemonFCIt'll always be called "Windows 10", they just foist upgrades on you whether you want them or not.Oct 03 09:09
DaemonFCI agree that it could conceivably make the OS more stable, coherent, secure, etc. if it was from anyone but Microsoft.Oct 03 09:10
DaemonFCIn reality it just gives you a mess to deal with once or twice a month.Oct 03 09:10
schestowitzI don't see a connection to AppleOct 03 09:29
schestowitzin his mind, maybe it's still just "Mac vs PC"Oct 03 09:29
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DaemonFCPolycrastinator Alpha Member #165 - 1 day agoOct 03 10:47
DaemonFCMicrosoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. Without the option to effectively opt out of these things until they're fixed, staying on Windows 7 - or moving to another platform, eventually - is starting to look like a wiser and wiser choice. Businesses can't afford the down time from failed updates, and with Windows 10 that down time Oct 03 10:47
DaemonFCis starting to feel like an inevitability.Oct 03 10:47
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schestowitz[10:47] <DaemonFC> Microsoft needs to start treating these failed updates as an emergency. This shouldn't be happening, and it's starting to feel like a regular occurrence. Oct 03 11:24
schestowitzBut rememberOct 03 11:24
schestowitzthey say they're not "cloud first"Oct 03 11:24
schestowitz:-)Oct 03 11:24
schestowitzWindows can wait...Oct 03 11:24
schestowitzThe Clown comes firstOct 03 11:24
schestowitz /s/not/now/Oct 03 11:24
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TweetTuxMachines                 ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on LinuxOct 03 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lMVtPf852n (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 19:40
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TweetTuxMachines                 ROS: An Open Source Robotics Platform on LinuxOct 03 20:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783015147338141696Oct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap AppsOct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hfRElGIlw5 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 03 20:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Software Can Now Show Screenshots of Snap Apps - OMG! Ubuntu!Oct 03 20:15
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Linux-libre 4.8-gnu Released, Deblobs More DriversOct 03 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/R4P8O19Sho (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 20:15
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MelvinNudelman/status/783026218782355460Oct 03 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MelvinNudelman: @schestowitz voting for you Jill will help Donald Trump win. Thank you :-)Oct 03 20:30
schestowitzOrdering fish at a restaurant gives you beef. Or something...Oct 03 20:30
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9 features overview/previewOct 03 20:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783025766460260352Oct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 "In the months ahead the Linux kernel should startOct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 receiving the work out of the "make-wifi-fast"Oct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 initiative" https://t.co/Kv8Srz2Qoo (www.phoronix.com)Oct 03 20:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Apricity OS, a beautiful way to to enter Arch eraOct 03 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EQuaMZpdMj (www.techphylum.com)Oct 03 20:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783027809132376064Oct 03 20:50
TweetTuxMachines                 #Mesos and #Kubernetes on a hybrid (IBM Power and x86)Oct 03 20:50
TweetTuxMachines                 architecture scenario https://t.co/6tfHC4c03M-Oct 03 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8Oct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/belAm7Posa (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 21:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-libre and Microsoft Slant on Linux 4.8 | Tux MachinesOct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031482143035393Oct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd bug in the News https://t.co/y0pUz3zArKOct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 03 21:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd bug in the News | Tux MachinesOct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783031483258638336Oct 03 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9 Preview https://t.co/KJWaOGnrtIOct 03 21:07
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MinceRhttps://linux.ucla.edu/~eqy/molasses.htmlOct 03 21:16
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MinceRhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1901544/google-promotes-controversial-claim-its-not-possible-for-ethnic-minorities-to-be-racist-against-white-people/Oct 03 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Google promotes claim it's NOT possible for ethnic minorities to be racist against white peopleOct 03 21:28
MinceRhttps://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14563457_347374705611461_369513723668309429_n.png?oh=c5ae032410e0b8a6029129847b41d826&oe=5871EC28Oct 03 21:42
XRevan86MinceR: I start to wonder more and more what exactly is a "white" person, and people of colour.Oct 03 21:44
MinceRit's not discrete at allOct 03 21:44
XRevan86Apparently it doesn't mean "Caucasian" because a lot of Caucasian people are being called coloured.Oct 03 21:46
XRevan86Like MexicansOct 03 21:46
XRevan86And it doesn't mean "Usonian" because I think I would have been called a white person while being far outside of US in a barely developed country.Oct 03 21:47
MinceR:>Oct 03 21:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/vinnyoh89/status/783045439524212737Oct 03 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vinnyoh89: @coryxoxo @schestowitz never mind the fact that right to work states pay workers less and give less benefitsOct 03 21:47
XRevan86it also doesn't mean being part of the developed world because I'm "white" and Japanese aren'tOct 03 21:47
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuropidOct 03 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasian race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaOct 03 21:48
schestowitzMinceR: trueOct 03 21:48
schestowitzthe whole premise of the article is dumbOct 03 21:48
XRevan86MinceR: But Mexicans are "coloured"Oct 03 21:48
MinceRwell, this crybully claim about "reverse" racism is stupidOct 03 21:49
XRevan86while being EuropioidOct 03 21:49
MinceRthey just want to be bigots and have people accept itOct 03 21:49
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/YimX0m6Oct 03 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Word needs too revise its grammar - ImgurOct 03 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783035676740751361Oct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 3/10/2016: GNU Linux-Libre 4.8, DNF 2.0.0Oct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c85fV9HGbM (techrights.org)Oct 03 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049724345536512Oct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/ZwM0B8Hj2iOct 03 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049725465419776Oct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/rVoNyHRZ0JOct 03 22:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux MachinesOct 03 22:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049726706888704Oct 03 22:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/bAxYyGgBayOct 03 22:04
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StitesIn the USA the Federal Appeals Court for the Federal Circuit has issued a ruling by a 3 judge panel throwing out a software patent.  Two judges issued an opinion saying the software patent was invalid for the usual mundane reasons.  The third judge, Judge Meyer, agreed with the other 2 judges and then added 2 more reasons.  Judge Meyer's second reason is that no software is patentable ever.  This is HUGE!  Here is the text of JudgOct 03 22:20
Stiteshttp://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.htmlOct 03 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | First Amendment Finally Reaches Patent Law | Patently-OOct 03 22:20
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stites_You need to read this:  http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/10/amendment-finally-reaches.htmlOct 03 22:22
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schestowitzseen itOct 03 22:34
schestowitzcovered this morningOct 03 22:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049727801602048Oct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/EjWtd8GxsPOct 03 22:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783049728850145280Oct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/bQMwD6RQH0Oct 03 22:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063614571835393Oct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 HackMIT meets Fedora https://t.co/A9CBX0EkTbOct 03 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)Oct 03 22:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783063905878827008Oct 03 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 A tiny PC as a router  https://t.co/oDgLTQsNZUOct 03 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.liw.fi)Oct 03 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.liw.fi | A tiny PC as a routerOct 03 23:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783066548143583233Oct 03 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Collabora Contributions to Linux Kernel 4.8Oct 03 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0DZINaEYrp (padovan.org)Oct 03 23:26
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/hpKWIi9.jpgOct 03 23:28
schestowitzbambi?!Oct 03 23:39
schestowitzMinceR: methinks you have a kickass addictionOct 03 23:40
MinceR:)Oct 03 23:41
MinceRno, just found a dump on imgurOct 03 23:41
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MinceRhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/stupid-design-patent-month-rectangles-screenOct 04 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Stupid Design Patent of the Month: Rectangles on a Screen | Electronic Frontier FoundationOct 04 00:07
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DaemonFCI decided to sign up with a per-mile car insurance plan. Little creepy, but the pricing is good.Oct 04 00:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118646746808320Oct 04 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6Oct 04 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 SoCs https://t.co/rjeoQ7LYga (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 02:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6 SoCs | Tux MachinesOct 04 02:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118647820640256Oct 04 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source for Business: Pros and ConsOct 04 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HotCqJfxFL (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 02:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source for Business: Pros and Cons | Tux MachinesOct 04 02:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783118648948826112Oct 04 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia BackendOct 04 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Brings Updated Components https://t.co/HCbaeIz67oOct 04 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 02:37
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DaemonFCschestowitz, What do you think about that?Oct 04 03:05
DaemonFCPlug in a device that records how much you drive and just pay for what you use.Oct 04 03:05
DaemonFCThere's a small base rate (like $17.62 a month for me) and then a per-mile fee depending on what insurance options you get (2.2 cents per mile for me).Oct 04 03:05
DaemonFCIf I'm correct, I should average $20 a month this way where I pay $60 now.Oct 04 03:06
DaemonFCWhat I'm paying now is essentially a huge subsidy for other people who drive a lot.Oct 04 03:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783136058036793344Oct 04 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 The October 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS MagazineOct 04 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FkUqtzxIbn (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 10:52
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The October 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux MachinesOct 04 10:52
schestowitz[03:39] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, HP has good customer service. I sent my Compaq Presario laptop in three years after the warranty expired because the touchpad was malfunctioning. They sent it back a little over a week later saying they fixed the touchpad and even updated the BIOS for me while it was there and they weren't going to charge me anything.Oct 04 11:03
schestowitzMy main laptop, an HP, is reliableOct 04 11:04
schestowitznever had to repair anything yet (since 2009)Oct 04 11:04
schestowitzthe chromebook is another matter, returned it to the shopOct 04 11:04
schestowitz(HP 14)Oct 04 11:04
schestowitzHP Chromebook 14 or whatever they called itOct 04 11:04
schestowitzseems like others reported the same issued with itOct 04 11:04
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schestowitz[05:03] <dblaber> is ubuntu still where it was in the past :)?Oct 04 11:12
schestowitzMore server focusOct 04 11:12
schestowitzI guess the desktop has been used to promote the brand, among other thingsOct 04 11:13
schestowitzlike packaging formatsOct 04 11:13
schestowitzUbuntu is now used a lot where Debian used to be usedOct 04 11:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pceebee23/status/783243263968849920Oct 04 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pceebee23: @AngusMacNeilSNP @schestowitz inevitable...now... little england lost in a myth of EmpireOct 04 11:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/783245277851451393Oct 04 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz yes it is, and one clearly cannot patent speech.Oct 04 11:17
schestowitzThere was a patent lawsuit over speech rec recently. High profile...Oct 04 11:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783249738791587840Oct 04 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @hintjens I want my villa!Oct 04 11:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783250641267351553Oct 04 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 NixOS 16.09 "Flounder" Operating System Adds PXE NetbootOct 04 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, systemd 231 https://t.co/bkB8QRgNHYOct 04 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 04 11:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | NixOS 16.09 "Flounder" Operating System Adds PXE Netboot Support, systemd 231Oct 04 11:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783250897711296512Oct 04 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.8 Officially Released for ThoseOct 04 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Who Want 100% Freedom https://t.co/fJPWMoMTi7Oct 04 11:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNU Linux-libre Kernel 4.8 Officially Released for Those Who Want 100% FreedomOct 04 11:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251220123222016Oct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Midnight Commander 4.8.18 Adds Syntax HighlightingOct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines                 for CUDA and GLSL, Fixes https://t.co/0V90JzgTuPOct 04 11:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNU Midnight Commander 4.8.18 Adds Syntax Highlighting for CUDA and GLSL, FixesOct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251373601193988Oct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Dueling Arduinos reunite with new Arduino FoundationOct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2pFi4TAGS3 (hackerboards.com)Oct 04 11:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Dueling Arduinos reunite with new Arduino FoundationOct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251529985908736Oct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines                 $39 network switching Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux onOct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Cortex-A53 https://t.co/jdgXvA6WYj (hackerboards.com)Oct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | $39 network switching Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on Cortex-A53Oct 04 11:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783251927815557120Oct 04 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 3.12.64 LTS Updates the Networking Stack andOct 04 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Fixes EXT4 Bugs https://t.co/0Pdf3tFcfcOct 04 11:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.64 LTS Updates the Networking Stack and Fixes EXT4 BugsOct 04 11:28
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TweetTuxMachines                 SystemRescueCd 4.8.3 Released withOct 04 11:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5vV90nvkJZ (www.x.org) Server 1.18.4, LinuxOct 04 11:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 4.4.23 LTS https://t.co/VdjHHBKdWPOct 04 11:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783252486962442240Oct 04 11:31
TweetTuxMachines                 26 open source projects from Linux's 25 yearsOct 04 11:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/94RGNp81nJ (www.cio.com)Oct 04 11:31
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TweetTuxMachines                 Open IoT gateway SBCs run Linux on NXP QorIQ and i.mX6Oct 04 11:31
TweetTuxMachines                 SoCs https://t.co/BMoylH12nQ (hackerboards.com)Oct 04 11:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783253100140396544Oct 04 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 FFmpeg 3.1.4 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia BackendOct 04 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Brings Updated Components https://t.co/78gNOedDTgOct 04 11:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783253433751134208Oct 04 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Collabora Developers Have Contributed over 100 Patches toOct 04 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.8 https://t.co/BPbwjWBr06Oct 04 11:33
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TweetTuxMachines                 Keeping Linux containers safe and secureOct 04 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783255966615793664Oct 04 11:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Looks like Homefront: The Revolution might be gearing upOct 04 11:45
TweetTuxMachines                 for a Linux release now https://t.co/NW7kQw2hH0Oct 04 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783256712182652928Oct 04 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Several donations boost reliability of Debian's coreOct 04 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 infrastructure https://t.co/yqvcwdrrz0 (www.debian.org)Oct 04 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME From Scratch Project https://t.co/RvEyksG2cvOct 04 12:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Weather Forecast https://t.co/D3QWn54poYOct 04 12:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right FirewallOct 04 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Distribution https://t.co/F2oohCNI6b (www.datamation.com)Oct 04 12:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783266800326811648Oct 04 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Scheduler Changes Published For The Linux 4.9 KernelOct 04 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zYJrhOkr2z (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 12:26
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TweetTuxMachines                 BFS Updated For Linux 4.8, To Be Succeeded By New MuQSSOct 04 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Scheduler https://t.co/j9Yxn7UYi1 (www.phoronix.com) "ConOct 04 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Kolivas...to premiere a new scheduler."Oct 04 13:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783267319887847424Oct 04 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 OverlayFS SELinux Support For Linux 4.9 KernelOct 04 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RNr30YLhY2 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 13:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282422788096001Oct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Everything you need to know about Android 7.1 Nougat andOct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 the Pixel Launcher  https://t.co/Q3wU1QqoYxOct 04 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282581487968256Oct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Why Android Fans Are Feeling Anxious Ahead of Google'sOct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Next Hardware Event https://t.co/XB8MFExneCOct 04 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783282857036963840Oct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 The Mi Box is officially launching today for $69Oct 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mkXWklz5fF (www.androidpolice.com)Oct 04 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! Oct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2MKCdxn82C (balintreczey.hu)Oct 04 13:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-balintreczey.hu | Harden Debian with PIE and bindnow! | Obsessed with realityOct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783284871108104193Oct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Create your own Tizen themes with the Tizen Theme EditorOct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/j7RbDe4AUT (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 04 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783285094463201281Oct 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Sysprof Plans for #gnome 3.24  https://t.co/KbiJDjUBIwOct 04 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286932826533888Oct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right FirewallOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Distribution https://t.co/8T5ivhKO0WOct 04 13:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hardware Firewall: Choosing the Right Firewall Distribution | Tux MachinesOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286934458109952Oct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 OSI Welcomes Powering Potential: Open Source AdvocatesOct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Extending Education in Tanzania https://t.co/mssWewnztSOct 04 13:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286935615746048Oct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/bjVKj6CeCrOct 04 13:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783286936580468736Oct 04 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/4nAkI22kOtOct 04 13:46
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel News https://t.co/KqyhyBQcNpOct 04 14:06
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7923062Oct 04 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Social [control] media does not punish people for racism, terror, 'trolling' etc. as it claims. Now even ciriticising religion or police is verboten?Oct 04 14:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783292183768080386Oct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Live from Google’s mega announcement: Pixel phones,Oct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Android updates, 4K Chromecast and more!Oct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kTM3d25XxB (techcrunch.com)Oct 04 15:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783293006094934016Oct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 AppData content ratings for games shipped in FedoraOct 04 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/b5uwTrXvUU (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)Oct 04 15:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305810596159490Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Why health implants should have open source codeOct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/y98CJSxdBE (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 15:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why health implants should have open source code | Tux MachinesOct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305812672294913Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/gA9rcA07yWOct 04 15:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305813787938817Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora News https://t.co/1BUY6o04Ud (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 15:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305815721598981Oct 04 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/Lw0BaasU9W (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 15:01
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKyErEjxiEOct 04 15:19
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MinceR(short-lived link) https://i.4cdn.org/b/1475569857122.webmOct 04 15:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783305817109909505Oct 04 15:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian News https://t.co/Y9KrOeQPqx (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 15:31
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schestowitzMinceR: 4chan?Oct 04 15:35
schestowitzseems like they'e going bust soonOct 04 15:35
MinceRindeedOct 04 15:35
MinceRafaik they jumped the shark long ago anywayOct 04 15:36
schestowitzit's funny, but offensive to most womenOct 04 15:38
schestowitzso I won't post itOct 04 15:38
MinceR:>Oct 04 15:41
MinceRthe link won't last more than a few hours anywayOct 04 15:41
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/tc5-1.jpgOct 04 15:50
MinceR(audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475545742389.webmOct 04 15:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/783311496298233856Oct 04 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: because it's well known all terrorists are unable to find £17.50 down the back of the sofa.... https://t.co/MxCQuSsrJPOct 04 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Let travellers pay £17.50 to beat queues at airport #security https://t.co/tUpXLHrKfq more proof that it really is security theaterOct 04 15:51
schestowitzMinceR: nice swingOct 04 15:54
schestowitzbad outcomeOct 04 15:54
MinceR:)Oct 04 15:54
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MinceR>"We are going to be a fully-independent, sovereign country, a country that is no longer part of a political union with supranational institutions that can override national parliaments and courts," she said to applause.Oct 04 15:58
MinceRoh, they're going to leave the Commonwealth and kick out the royal family? :>Oct 04 15:58
schestowitzHAhahahahahahaOct 04 15:59
razielle_tzulolOct 04 15:59
XRevan861Another thing I keep wondering about is "national".Oct 04 16:04
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MinceR"nation" is an idea invented to get people to gang up on other people, usually to kill them for the oppressors' profitOct 04 16:05
XRevan86I guess the thing here is classical "us" and "them": "them" Germans/French can't dictate "their" will on "us", Britains, lords, the queen, the peasants alike.Oct 04 16:08
XRevan86* BritonsOct 04 16:08
MinceRthe classic forgetting that "them" also includes UKOct 04 16:08
MinceRand of course trying to have their cake and eat it tooOct 04 16:09
MinceRi wonder what the EU people think about thatOct 04 16:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783313648068460544Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 "I just want to run a container!" https://t.co/iMTtd6HXpQOct 04 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783320852414750720Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 'Quadrilateral Cowboy' released for Linux, aOct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 single-player adventure in a cyberpunk worldOct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0oIh6Z1zQK (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 04 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323157805535232Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with ComprehensiveOct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Features https://t.co/6MtQHRuHfm (dot.kde.org)Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yYQMB8wc2V (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 16:11
XRevan86While common people today have much better chances of communicating with common people from other countries than with lords of their own.Oct 04 16:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZRjcy023Ms (news.softpedia.com)Oct 04 16:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now with Comprehensive Features | KDE.newsOct 04 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Officially Released - PhoronixOct 04 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Celebrates Its 20th Anniversary with the Release of KDE Plasma 5.8 LTSOct 04 16:11
XRevan86and, obviously, share much more interests with them than with the "elite".Oct 04 16:12
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TsiqumPOct 04 16:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-People like to pretend there's nothing wrong with Eclipse. I don't. - ImgurOct 04 16:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JotsandTitters/status/783322617528750084Oct 04 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JotsandTitters: @schestowitz @wikileaks $$$ the key objectiveOct 04 16:20
schestowitz[16:09] <MinceR> i wonder what the EU people think about thatOct 04 16:21
schestowitzback to the 1970sOct 04 16:21
schestowitzI didn't vote for brexitOct 04 16:21
razielle_tzume neitherOct 04 16:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LaurelCatherine/status/783322765713637378Oct 04 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LaurelCatherine: Well us good guys won that skirmish but the rodents never cease their chewing thru at wall https://t.co/xxu947oWhgOct 04 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Federal Court Says Ballot Selfie Ban Is Like Burning Down the House to Roast a Pig https://t.co/YqVRnSbwoa good analogy?Oct 04 16:22
MinceRi mean, the people who call the shots in the EU, the people these brexiters will negotiate with to try and keep all the advantages of the deal while getting rid of all the disadvantagesOct 04 16:23
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/IUgHMDM.jpgOct 04 16:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323563046514689Oct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd is not Magic Security DustOct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pkcyMn9nUP (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd is not Magic Security Dust | Tux MachinesOct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783323565420531714Oct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux RoutersOct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a227K7iCao (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Malware and Spyware, GNU/Linux Routers | Tux MachinesOct 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783324385998430210Oct 04 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 "In summer 2015 I started to package GNUnet for Gentoo asOct 04 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 contributor to the youbroketheinternet-overlay."Oct 04 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lMvAggQOjH (gnunet.org)Oct 04 16:44
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnunet.org | GNUnet for Gentoo | GNUnetOct 04 16:44
schestowitzMinceR: niceOct 04 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783331749027807232Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI SupportOct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6v3yWusNSc (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libdrm 2.4.71 Released, Adds Etnaviv, AMDGPU SI Support - PhoronixOct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783332235575517184Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - PhoronixOct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783334538462257152Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late ForOct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.9 https://t.co/48iU37EdIT (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 16:56
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late For Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 04 16:56
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/iAZ7oFF.jpgOct 04 17:13
MinceRhttp://www.truthdig.com/report/item/7_questions_mike_pence_should_asked_vice_president_debate_20161004Oct 04 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here Are 7 Questions Mike Pence Should Be Asked at the Vice Presidential Debate - TruthdigOct 04 17:22
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'SMAF v10 Secure Memory Allocation Published, Too Late...'Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342749571350530Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU Tools Released https://t.co/N42hE1qDgYOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Tools Released | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342750980636672Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Graphics https://t.co/FOHY9CyoqJOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342751953727488Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For LinuxOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BX83lq8bPq (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342752985526273Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To UniversityOct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Lawyers https://t.co/9lYvFIgMMV (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC RISC-V Support Allegedly Held Up Due To University Lawyers | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:27
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MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/20sign-1-1.jpgOct 04 17:39
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/8sign-3-1.jpgOct 04 17:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783342754168385536Oct 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQAOct 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tFlJk97AIl (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avoiding quality assurance disasters with openQA | Tux MachinesOct 04 17:51
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE at 20: Plasma 5.8 LTS Out Now...'Oct 04 17:51
schestowitzMinceR: https://twitter.com/mickaelistria/status/783349449586343936Oct 04 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mickaelistria: @schestowitz Yup, there's something wrong here... Can you please report it to https://t.co/HVNrbTJQGQ ?Oct 04 17:55
schestowitzMinceR: maybe they think I took this shotOct 04 17:56
MinceRlolOct 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783348773422587912Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCEOct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EyzSHDj5Eg (blog.lxde.org)Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lxde.org | Benchmark: Memory Usage: LXQt desktop environment vs XFCE | LXDE BlogOct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783349420922433536Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For LinuxOct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iXpIozoAsu (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Oct 04 17:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klavaro A Simple But Great Typing Tutor For Linux - LinuxAndUbuntuOct 04 17:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/christianlawre2/status/783350068216602625Oct 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@christianlawre2: @schestowitz @wikileaks you worship hillary clinton. You don't know the truth, anymore. you think her lies are the truth and truth are lies.Oct 04 17:59
schestowitz:-)Oct 04 18:00
schestowitzCute.Oct 04 18:00
schestowitzI worship HRC :-)Oct 04 18:00
schestowitzI didn't know...Oct 04 18:00
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/xsIXZwR.jpgOct 04 18:21
schestowitzniceOct 04 18:27
schestowitzLinus spoke about the pressure thingOct 04 18:27
schestowitzafter he flew inside a fighter hetOct 04 18:27
schestowitz*jetOct 04 18:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/783284882042564609Oct 04 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: My friend @hintjens pushed our meeting at the hospital to 5PM instead of noon. Shit, I wanted to say goodbye!Oct 04 18:32
MinceRhttps://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1h1cyg/whats_the_most_intellectual_joke_you_know/Oct 04 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's the most intellectual joke you know? : AskRedditOct 04 18:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783352897673293825Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT https://t.co/wofTyAW9q6Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | ‘Andromeda’ will be Google’s NT • The RegisterOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362905378959364Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/LiYEqC58UzOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362906435883009Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDEOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/M0ifUoX8g3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Releases: SOGo, ownCloud, NetBeans IDE | Tux MachinesOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362907581001728Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 System Administration https://t.co/CxzLmf3CyeOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System Administration | Tux MachinesOct 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783362908575059969Oct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 LXDE Performance https://t.co/p73KPlil8eOct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXDE Performance | Tux MachinesOct 04 18:48
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/9HsBaOh.jpgOct 04 19:14
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/3sf36Eo.pngOct 04 19:15
XRevan86base AOct 04 19:17
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/one-wish-3Oct 04 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - One WishOct 04 20:43
MinceR04 213058 -TechrightsBot-tr:#techrights- @ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @wikileaks We should drone any and all globalists in or outside the USA.Complete annihilation.Oct 04 20:43
MinceREXTERMINATE ALL HUMANSOct 04 20:43
XRevan86SEEK, LOCATE, DESTROYOct 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783385383631515648Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines                 3 Android phones that offer long battery lifeOct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/25B3rOhZgK (www.infoworld.com)Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Android phones that offer long battery life | InfoWorldOct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/783392513428168705Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    DRM-Next https://t.co/kN2NMTgLcC (www.phoronix.com)Oct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Performance On Linux 4.9 DRM-Next - PhoronixOct 04 21:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783398426641915904Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel andOct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401711486369793Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Linux Foundation https://t.co/m8A7JAqtUgOct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | TechrightsOct 04 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Linux Foundation | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401712857944064Oct 04 21:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Distros News https://t.co/aJRdIVXYmvOct 04 21:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:22
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros News | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:22
schestowitzXRevan86: sounds like Captain America: Winter SoldierOct 04 21:26
XRevan86schestowitz: That's from Doctor Who :).Oct 04 21:27
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/legLOTd.jpgOct 04 21:28
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/nihEOtwOct 04 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I do really need drivers for my undefined Something MSI! - GIF on ImgurOct 04 21:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401714284015616Oct 04 21:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupterOct 04 21:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IrVWIsDeiQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell EMC 'backs' Huawei open-source management disrupter | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401715315814400Oct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 What CIOs need to know about open source forkingOct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RUubkESjAe (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What CIOs need to know about open source forking | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783401716481859584Oct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 ReleasedOct 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hH6deM3wQH (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released | Tux MachinesOct 04 21:55
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/3WWuEUz.jpgOct 04 22:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @INQ favourited 'Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke https://t.co/eUBzhPctUL'Oct 04 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Legends of Linux Part 2: Tim Burke | TheINQUIREROct 04 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783421228845441024Oct 04 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04Oct 04 22:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/M1dWVi5Wie (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 22:59
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 22:59
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/783395668421378048Oct 04 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz c'mon-one senior judge with no business experience nor extensive technology background-baying at the moonOct 04 23:36
schestowitzXRevan86: ah, OK, I'm not into it, never wasOct 04 23:36
XRevan86schestowitz: It's pretty good.Oct 04 23:37
XRevan86Both classical and current.Oct 04 23:37
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/H9vFsZG.gifvOct 04 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | 9Oct 04 23:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ErythreanSea/status/783417084852117505Oct 04 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ErythreanSea: @TN_Conservative @schestowitz @wikileaks Good Luck ,,, https://t.co/LM6sbj8O3QOct 04 23:41
schestowitzLOL, MinceR https://twitter.com/RoyCohnsGhost/status/783260634725113856Oct 04 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RoyCohnsGhost: @JimBertido @wikileaks Bill doesn't have to hide out in an embassy to avoid his accusers. https://t.co/5RCmb1EMtMOct 04 23:42
schestowitzfunny.Oct 04 23:42
schestowitznails itOct 04 23:42
MinceRgood for himOct 04 23:42
schestowitzbut the sculptures I saw had a small oneOct 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783426190581391360Oct 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel andOct 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Andromeda Predictions https://t.co/Iwxz8gvDy5Oct 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Oct 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2016: KDE Plasma 5.8, Google Pixel and Andromeda Predictions | TechrightsOct 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783434239136108544Oct 04 23:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwluOct 04 23:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 04 23:49
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 04 23:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438717092564992Oct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Android Phone Under $900 https://t.co/ITHBaxtYs3Oct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 04 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone Under $900 | Android CentralOct 04 23:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783438892808728576Oct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Android Phone With Removable BatteryOct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CbSj96EQqX (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 04 23:52
TweetTuxMachines Oct 04 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone With Removable Battery | Android CentralOct 04 23:52
cubexyzok, I had some time so I was able to do some updatesOct 05 00:14
cubexyza historical look at filesystemsOct 05 00:15
razielle_tzucoolOct 05 00:15
cubexyzhttp://maxhost.org/other/comparison-different-os-df.txtOct 05 00:15
cubexyzgot some ideas for updating the df commandOct 05 00:15
cubexyzthe documentation for very old Unix is a bit deficientOct 05 00:19
cubexyzit assumes you know a lotOct 05 00:20
razielle_tzuback then wouldn't that be true?Oct 05 00:20
cubexyzdefinitely yesOct 05 00:20
cubexyzstill, I feel I should try to improve itOct 05 00:20
razielle_tzui'm not saying you shouldn'tOct 05 00:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783439704968536064Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/0BIlAWRwluOct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441578656428033Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 ReleasedOct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XqjoQum5Uk (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Tizen SCM Tools version 16.02.2 Released - Tizen ExpertsOct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783441771925766148Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines                 An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FrGvay6NVm (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Oct 05 00:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | An Everyday Linux User Review Of Kubuntu 16.04 « Everyday Linux UserOct 05 00:23
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/mV5NrEC.jpgOct 05 00:27
cubexyzI have to load-balance the Unix v5 filesOct 05 00:28
cubexyzgot some ideas for future updates...Oct 05 00:29
cubexyzport some sort of file compression utility for v5Oct 05 00:29
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cubexyzthe old DEC RK05 hard drive system was limited to 2.5 megs per driveOct 05 00:35
cubexyzso one has to be a bit economical with disk usageOct 05 00:36
razielle_tzujust a bitOct 05 00:36
cubexyzmy original amiga hard drive was also pretty smallOct 05 00:42
cubexyz49 megsOct 05 00:42
cubexyzseagate ST-157NOct 05 00:43
cubexyzstill, going from a single 880K floppy to 49 megs was a big differenceOct 05 00:44
razielle_tzuyeahOct 05 00:44
razielle_tzui can't remember the size of my first amiga hddOct 05 00:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783455238015496193Oct 05 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: Just discovered my honest and personal post about quitting has been grossly twisted by @schestowitz. Not happy. https://t.co/g1i2CkfXgpOct 05 00:55
schestowitzhahaOct 05 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Alice/Section 101 Still Spelling Doom for Proponents of Software Patents, Including Some Patent Law Firms | TechrightsOct 05 00:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783453965673304065  https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454095386435585Oct 05 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz No, but I have now, and you have grossly misrepresented my position.Oct 05 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz I am *not* going back to software development. That comment you quote was sarcastic and snide (and I responded to it).Oct 05 00:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454450241241088   https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454624598470656Oct 05 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz My decision is personal and does *not* reflect any 'layoffs' or 'shutdowns'. Your inference is harmful to my employer.Oct 05 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And I vehemently resent your suggestion that I (or anyone else) is, or has been, in the business of lying to clients.Oct 05 00:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783454746690461696Oct 05 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz If your reading comprehension skills are so poor, maybe you should not be in the business of writing.Oct 05 00:56
razielle_tzulolOct 05 00:56
schestowitzyou did promote software patents a lot. This, to me, is dishonest.Oct 05 00:56
schestowitz-meOct 05 00:56
schestowitzhe's not happy about the critical slantOct 05 00:57
razielle_tzuevidentlyOct 05 00:58
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cubexyzI'm going to augment the ps command as wellOct 05 01:01
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TweetTuxMachines                 Become an undead assassion in 'Aragami', now availableOct 05 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 with day-1 Linux support and some thoughts from meOct 05 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NFuEERAuGk (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 05 01:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783455397139087361Oct 05 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME 3.24 Release Schedule Now  https://t.co/EQozuek6h4Oct 05 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) direct: https://t.co/5ONeb4hMX1Oct 05 01:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME 3.24 Release Schedule Now Available - PhoronixOct 05 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointTwentythree )Oct 05 01:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783456442082791424Oct 05 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The DesktopOct 05 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7GPjsasJfK (www.phoronix.com)Oct 05 01:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 Users: Don't Run "DNF Update" From The Desktop - PhoronixOct 05 01:02
schestowitzrazielle_tzu: it's ok if they dislike meOct 05 01:03
schestowitzthey're supposed toOct 05 01:03
schestowitzotherwise I fail to counter themOct 05 01:03
razielle_tzutrueOct 05 01:03
schestowitzbut I'm fine with that, I heard from some people they won't say those things for fear of insulting or alienating themOct 05 01:03
schestowitzbut someone needs to do it, and what I said was actually trueOct 05 01:03
schestowitzthey're nervous over death of swpats at the momentOct 05 01:03
razielle_tzuso they should beOct 05 01:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457175863644160 https://twitter.com/patentology/status/783457450372374529Oct 05 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz Holding views that differ from yours is 'dishonest'? No, it isn't. And you have no idea how & on what basis I advise clients.Oct 05 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz While I may not agree with you, I've always viewed you as fair and principled. Apparently I was wrong. Show some respect.Oct 05 01:05
schestowitzNo, he never viewed me like thatOct 05 01:05
schestowitzhe knew where I stoofOct 05 01:05
schestowitz*stoodOct 05 01:05
cubexyzis this Mr. Solve the web page? :)Oct 05 01:06
cubexyzoh well, it doesn't matterOct 05 01:09
cubexyzthe tone seemed the sameOct 05 01:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783457154820956164Oct 05 01:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux KernelOct 05 01:10
TweetTuxMachines                 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22  https://t.co/PJ5mZzZ6RXOct 05 01:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 05 01:10
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 01:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 - ExclusiveOct 05 01:10
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cubexyzalmost as obtuse as Ted StevensOct 05 01:12
cubexyzit's not a big truck you know!Oct 05 01:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/patentology/status/783458633027760128Oct 05 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@patentology: @schestowitz And, don't worry, I will continue to 'promote' software patents, even without a financial interest.Oct 05 01:14
schestowitzhahaOct 05 01:14
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/c6OmW3sOct 05 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Maps now has functionality that allows you to mimic the swerving of a drunk driver. - ImgurOct 05 01:17
MinceRan honorable villain, willing to fight to destroy the world even if there's nothing in it for him!Oct 05 01:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/6NfKLJZoi6Oct 05 01:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 05 01:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783459222902087680Oct 05 01:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux KernelOct 05 01:49
TweetTuxMachines                 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/c5wWe5mWxZOct 05 01:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 01:49
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is Shipping with Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS, GNOME 3.22 | Tux MachinesOct 05 01:49
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MinceR> anon@anon:~> grep couric /usr/share/units.datOct 05 02:10
MinceR> couric                  2.5 pounds feces  # official unit of measurement of fecal samples, per: http://www.efsmi.org/?ref=efsmi.euOct 05 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.efsmi.org | European Fecal Standards and Measurements Institute (EFSMI)Oct 05 02:10
MinceR> kouric                  couricOct 05 02:10
MinceR> trump                   79.366 couric  # per: http://www.howtallis.org/donald-trump-height-weight-shoe-size/Oct 05 02:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507778786631680Oct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the WindowsOct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/0e3Kl7N8j5Oct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 04:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the Windows Subsystem for Linux | Tux MachinesOct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507780393050113Oct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux DistrosOct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 on March 22, 2017 https://t.co/whcdvGnQ6tOct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 04:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux Distros on March 22, 2017 | Tux MachinesOct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507782469169157Oct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxConOct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/v82aXGPelZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 04:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxCon | Tux MachinesOct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783507783580737536Oct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves theOct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Updater, Patches Over 40 Bugs https://t.co/X92mNoZMNIOct 05 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 04:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nextcloud 10.0.1 Maintenance Release Improves the Updater, Patches Over 40 Bugs | Tux MachinesOct 05 04:23
DaemonFChttp://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/Oct 05 05:18
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DaemonFChttp://hothardware.com/news/windows-10-anniversary-update-sending-users-reboot-loop-hellOct 05 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Latest Windows 10 Anniversary Update Build Sends Some Users To Reboot Loop Hell | HotHardwareOct 05 06:23
DaemonFChttp://www.pcworld.com/article/3123153/windows/more-than-half-of-pcs-dont-have-windows-10-au-yet-and-no-ones-quite-sure-why.htmlOct 05 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More than half of PCs don't have Windows 10 AU yet, and no one's quite sure why | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/pudm3 ]Oct 05 06:24
DaemonFChttp://www.komando.com/happening-now/350765/busted-the-reason-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-you-think/allOct 05 06:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Busted! The reason Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | One Page | Komando...Oct 05 06:29
DaemonFC"The big problem Apple will have going forward is that Mac security entirely depends on a single defense called GateKeeper. GateKeeper only lets programs install if they have an approval certificate from Apple.Oct 05 06:30
DaemonFCThat means GateKeeper will stop you downloading and installing a random virus off the Internet. However, its weakness is that once a program has approval from Apple, it trusts that it's always going to be good.Oct 05 06:30
DaemonFCIn the ransomware attack from last week, hackers broke into the website of the Transmission BitTorrent client and replace the legitimate download with a version that included malicious code. GateKeeper just let the infected program install with no fuss."Oct 05 06:30
DaemonFCThe article is mostly an ad for Kaspersky Antivirus though.Oct 05 06:31
DaemonFChttp://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/03/18/busted-apple-computers-arent-nearly-as-secure-as-think.htmlOct 05 06:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Busted! Apple computers aren't nearly as secure as you think | Fox News [ http://ur1.ca/pudno ]Oct 05 06:31
DaemonFCFox News basically copied it and replaced the ad for Kaspersky with advice to get an antivirus program.Oct 05 06:32
DaemonFCschestowitz, I came across a story earlier about how Microsoft sent BSA lawyers after a business.Oct 05 06:36
DaemonFCThey had about 200 systems. 150 ran Linux and 50 ran Windows. The BSA found out that some copies of Windows weren't licensed, so they tried to force a settlement on the company that involved wiping out the 150 Linux systems and installing a licensed copy of Windows on all 200.Oct 05 06:37
DaemonFCHe said that negotiations went on for months and he left the company and never did find out what happened.Oct 05 06:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783603812221190144Oct 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Releases WildFly Application Server Version 10.1Oct 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9C5nJr6fJ2 (www.infoq.com)Oct 05 11:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783604912961781760Oct 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 security things in Linux v4.8 https://t.co/79jOSL8JGAOct 05 11:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.8 « codeblogOct 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783607406580404225Oct 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8Oct 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a2AsIqguRh (www.theregister.co.uk)Oct 05 11:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783611070237728768Oct 05 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/peUF9kpNdXOct 05 11:25
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7929025Oct 05 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Google’s New Phones Are Exactly What Android Needs Now http://time.com/4518365/google-pixel-xl-apple-iphone-android/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/04/a-look-back-at-googles-android-flagships-the-nexus-family/Oct 05 11:30
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schestowitz"I fail to see any enthusiasm about that. Apple jail vs Google jaill? I can’t see the difference of the merits in that."Oct 05 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.engadget.com | A look back at Google's Android flagships: the Nexus family [ http://ur1.ca/pufgz ]Oct 05 11:30
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TweetTuxMachines                 Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both ISOs, BasedOct 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 on Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 https://t.co/JjQY4EDHkKOct 05 11:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Q4OS 1.6.3 Adds Initial UEFI Support to Both ISOs, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 8.6Oct 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616000969347072Oct 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Official Arduino IoT dev kit has WiFi hub and 25 sensorOct 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 modules https://t.co/8yHJYfEemw (hackerboards.com)Oct 05 11:33
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TweetTuxMachines                 alwsl Project Lets You Install Arch Linux in the WindowsOct 05 11:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/xcrLzGuu6hOct 05 11:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616532228239360Oct 05 11:36
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME 3.24 Desktop Environment Launches for Linux DistrosOct 05 11:36
TweetTuxMachines                 on March 22, 2017 https://t.co/eAssl0BRg8Oct 05 11:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616799749341184Oct 05 11:36
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File ManagerOct 05 11:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Brings Many New Features https://t.co/eDCLJqeVF4Oct 05 11:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Commander 1.6.0 Two-Pane Graphical File Manager Brings Many New FeaturesOct 05 11:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783616937171582976Oct 05 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Open source compliance specs advance at LinuxConOct 05 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Sg7fOLDWNe (hackerboards.com)Oct 05 11:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617396410085376Oct 05 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Corebird 1.3.3 Native Twitter Client for Linux SupportsOct 05 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 the New, Longer Tweets https://t.co/szho0lnp0MOct 05 11:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617865291329536Oct 05 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Neon 5.8 User Edition Linux OS Offers the Latest KDEOct 05 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783617914217857024Oct 05 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 How Long Do Android Owners Own An Android Phone?Oct 05 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783619309998399488Oct 05 11:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Mad Max to release on 20th of October for Linux &Oct 05 11:48
TweetTuxMachines                 SteamOS, being ported by Feral InteractiveOct 05 11:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783619733115535360Oct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 "The Mad Max game is being released for Linux later thisOct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 month on 20 October." https://t.co/m74rinjGrOOct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 05 11:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mad Max Coming To Linux, NVIDIA Graphics Supported - PhoronixOct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783620238847971329Oct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of HeroesOct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 10th Anniversary Bundle https://t.co/2WJ1n7hAvcOct 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 05 11:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in Humble Company of Heroes 10th Anniversary BundleOct 05 11:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/opendna/status/783628484363087872Oct 05 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@opendna: Related: publicly traded companies which list "goodwill" as an asset on the balance sheet. https://t.co/yMOkVZCP0NOct 05 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How many companies out there have imaginary/intangible perceived value that's basically just a bubble like #swpats ? What happens next?Oct 05 12:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Get Company of Heroes 1 & 2 in...'Oct 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783625007134105604Oct 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Beta 3 Release Updates FireFox, KDE Applications,Oct 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines                 VirtualBox https://t.co/HFZibpK1Ec (news.opensuse.org)Oct 05 12:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE NewsOct 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783625573096689664Oct 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Solving the Linux kernel code reviewer shortageOct 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UrL1gCOmdz (opensource.com)Oct 05 12:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reviewing patches makes you a better coder | Opensource.comOct 05 12:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Goofy_fr/status/783641553826934784Oct 05 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Goofy_fr: Vous voulez travailler dans l'informatique, trouver un boulot bien payé et intéressant, choisissez l'open source ! https://t.co/63htfplZ3fOct 05 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It's good to be an open source pro in Europe https://t.co/ZzB1TwqJuT #freeswOct 05 13:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GeorgeAnders/status/783648378580152321Oct 05 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GeorgeAnders: @schestowitz Cars used to play that function. But who drives anymore!?Oct 05 13:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783651297807433728Oct 05 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Just closed mine, never used it anyway... :)Oct 05 13:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GreensforJill/status/783651762767007744Oct 05 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreensforJill: @dodrty @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka Yes. Military experience is invaluable to any President. 🌻Oct 05 13:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dodrty/status/783652765377581061Oct 05 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dodrty: @GreensforJill @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS @mike_pence @timkaine @ajamubaraka well, it damn sure wouldn't do DJT any freaking good!Oct 05 14:00
schestowitzsome people closing their accounts at yahoo todayOct 05 14:00
schestowitzand talking about those stupid VP debates..Oct 05 14:01
MinceR(shortlived, audio) https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1475619161631.webmOct 05 14:07
razielle_tzuof course they're talking about the debatesOct 05 14:25
MinceRhttp://www.theonion.com/graphic/jurisprudence-fetishist-gets-off-on-technicality-9063Oct 05 14:31
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schestowitzMinceR: excellent!Oct 05 14:39
MinceR< anon> tories have unveiled new uk flag - http://i.imgur.com/HqCYSZi.jpgOct 05 15:20
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012Oct 05 19:55
cubexyzhere's a good counter-argument:Oct 05 19:56
cubexyzhttp://listovative.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-not-eat-food-at-mcdonalds/Oct 05 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Reasons why you should not eat Food at McDonalds - Listovative [ http://ur1.ca/puhq7 ]Oct 05 19:56
schestowitzta for the linkOct 05 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/783735551572709377Oct 05 20:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming ToOct 05 20:05
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    GNU/Linux https://t.co/D8sh8V5z0U (techrights.org)Oct 05 20:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783742161724506113Oct 05 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/10/2016: New KDE (LTS), Mad Max Coming To GNU/Linux | TechrightsOct 05 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 My triumph in Rocket League and why you need to own it onOct 05 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/hT1UsUosyJ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 05 20:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ewOct 05 20:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783743074962927617Oct 05 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Apricity: Slip Into Something More ComfortableOct 05 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ngQ93NizD1 (www.linuxinsider.com)Oct 05 20:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apricity: Slip Into Something More Comfortable | Reviews | LinuxInsiderOct 05 20:24
cubexyzMIcrosoft vice president Paul Maritz describing microsoft's strategy vs netscape, java and the internet:Oct 05 20:28
cubexyz"embrace, extend and extinguish"Oct 05 20:28
cubexyzdidn't work thoughOct 05 20:29
cubexyzthere's some balkanizing of courseOct 05 20:30
cubexyzI believe the current term is 'splinternet'Oct 05 20:30
cubexyzgoogle android uses google (naturally)Oct 05 20:31
cubexyzblackberry defaulted to bingOct 05 20:32
cubexyziphone doesn't use flashOct 05 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783749770552672256Oct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu on Intel Atom mini PCs (Linuxium’s builds for BayOct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Trail and Cherry Trail computers) https://t.co/nR2ibXh5BlOct 05 20:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu on Intel Atom mini PCs (Linuxium's builds for Bay Trail and Cherry Trail computers) - LiliputingOct 05 20:33
cubexyzthe doomsday scenario I feared... that microsoft would take over everything, didn't happenOct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783750239668858880Oct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 [Early Access] Sailfish OS FiskarsinjokiOct 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NRTVKx8Fg1 (blog.jolla.com)Oct 05 20:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | [Early Access] Sailfish OS Fiskarsinjoki | Jolla BlogOct 05 20:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783751140039163904Oct 05 20:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Trying Out The Experimental Unity 8 Session On UbuntuOct 05 20:34
TweetTuxMachines                 16.10 https://t.co/llRM8xR0iD (www.phoronix.com)Oct 05 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 FUSE Supports POSIX ACLs In Linux 4.9Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UOXFBPiYA6 (www.phoronix.com) Staging UpdateOct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 For Linux 4.9 https://t.co/DUzA3h9NnU (www.phoronix.com)Oct 05 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FUSE Supports POSIX ACLs In Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 05 20:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754086843809792Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell XPS 13 laptops with Kaby Lake now available for $800Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 and up (Windows and Ubuntu options)Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BAIFQuhbVZ (liliputing.com)Oct 05 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dell XPS 13 laptops with Kaby Lake now available for $800 and up (Windows and Ubuntu options) - LiliputingOct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754474653384706Oct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu, enterprise containerOct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 portfolio expands https://t.co/5ho6RWOhhzOct 05 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu, enterprise container portfolio expands - Open Source InsiderOct 05 20:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783754626524934145Oct 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Unity 8 Desktop Session Arrives in Ubuntu 16.10Oct 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8FgCXRaAaX (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines Oct 05 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Unity 8 Desktop Session Arrives in Ubuntu 16.10 - OMG! Ubuntu!Oct 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783755319025528832Oct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Happy 25th once again to Linux, ‘the little OS thatOct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 definitely could’ https://t.co/JRm8vIBzsCOct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.idg.com.au)Oct 05 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.idg.com.au | Happy 25th once again to Linux, 'the little OS that definitely could' - PC World AustraliaOct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756149308915713Oct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition now available with UbuntuOct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Intel Kaby Lake CPU https://t.co/pmn9anNuB1Oct 05 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (betanews.com)Oct 05 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition now available with Ubuntu Linux and Intel Kaby Lake CPUOct 05 20:52
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schestowitzhttp://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2340.htmlOct 05 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... The Internet of ransomware things!Oct 05 21:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783756572707196932Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots,Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Video) https://t.co/ojEa6MEnCx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) ...Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pvGouaGBFS (joindiaspora.com)Oct 05 21:55
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10...'Oct 05 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines                 Hands On With Unity 8 On Ubuntu 16.10 (Screenshots,Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Video) https://t.co/m7zMIpEazQ (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 05 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Hands On With Unity 8 in Ubuntu 16.10 - OMG! Ubuntu!Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772652099907584Oct 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Graphics https://t.co/6seYjwGxCmOct 05 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux MachinesOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772653572141056Oct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, KubernetesOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 on Canonical Ubuntu https://t.co/H9v6iCBMWvOct 05 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers: Dell with Ubuntu, New Unity, Kubernetes on Canonical Ubuntu | Tux MachinesOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772654591283200Oct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/eNoLJACqr1Oct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772655635668992Oct 05 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Mad Max for GNU/Linux https://t.co/l7HNEY43UsOct 05 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mad Max for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesOct 05 21:56
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MinceR05 203859 < cubexyz> he's actually touring schools and preaching the benefits of his McDonald's dietOct 05 22:20
MinceRlolOct 05 22:20
MinceRthat's pretty nuttyOct 05 22:20
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/XTqYah2.gifvOct 05 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLEOct 05 22:23
MinceRhttps://magyarchan.net/boards/b/image/1475/70/14757021789774.pngOct 05 22:24
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schestowitzPieter Hintjens's Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On http://techrights.org/2016/10/05/pieter-hintjens-swpats/Oct 05 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pieter Hintjens’s Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/puihw ]Oct 05 22:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/783782530487123968Oct 05 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz Thank you, my online friend.Oct 05 22:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/taotetek/status/783783812807401472Oct 05 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@taotetek: @schestowitz thank you so much for writing this.Oct 05 22:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783785669604831232Oct 05 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Same here :DOct 05 22:49
schestowitzrianne is waiting for new articlesOct 05 22:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/783786499082973184Oct 05 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz They are coming as we speak :)Oct 05 22:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fnkbnr/status/783789576808697856Oct 05 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fnkbnr: .@schestowitz They might not be "lying" but are forced to so. Question: Would that be legal. Which law would make this possible?Oct 05 23:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783772656868859904Oct 05 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel Headlines https://t.co/B1PFthUhKLOct 05 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 05 23:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Headlines | Tux MachinesOct 05 23:17
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Linux and Graphics https://t.co/6seYjwGxCm'Oct 05 23:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783819801135308800Oct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/dELC5GNFWlOct 06 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849855907094528Oct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final DebianOct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/0RcRGSxI7ZOct 06 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final Debian Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849856917917696Oct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi styleOct 06 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 expansion https://t.co/40VVEmMGn7 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 03:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi style expansion | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849857932898304Oct 06 03:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend &Oct 06 03:03
TweetTuxMachines                 K12 Capture File Support https://t.co/etU4tgv7lmOct 06 03:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend & K12 Capture File Support | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849859010867200Oct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Google releases open source 'Cartographer'Oct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cm9sUJvYKf (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 03:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google releases open source 'Cartographer' | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783849860038483968Oct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD HybridOct 06 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/THXHoi9z97Oct 06 03:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD Hybrid Configuration Support Coming Soon | Tux MachinesOct 06 03:05
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the...'Oct 06 03:05
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DaemonFCSo we voted today.Oct 06 04:08
DaemonFCI did split my ballot.Oct 06 04:08
DaemonFCI voted for some Greens when it was that and Democrats. :POct 06 04:08
DaemonFCBut that was only for the water reclamation board.Oct 06 04:08
DaemonFCThey're doing that Deep Tunnel project that's been going on since the 70s.Oct 06 04:09
DaemonFCI'm sure it's wasted plenty of money by now.Oct 06 04:09
DaemonFChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_us_57f53b9be4b002a7312022efOct 06 04:50
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DaemonFCI'm happy. I got to vote to eliminate a useless government office and save taxpayers $800,000 a year.Oct 06 05:32
DaemonFCTurns out there's a Cook County recorder and the Clerk's office and they both do similar things.Oct 06 05:32
DaemonFCSo I voted to eliminate the recorder's office.Oct 06 05:33
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SebthreeBQM10HDschestowitz morningOct 06 09:24
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TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) to Ship with an Optional UnityOct 06 09:27
TweetTuxMachines                 8 Session After All https://t.co/rYyTWbRLDeOct 06 09:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings KDE PlasmaOct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 5.8, VirtualBox 5.1.4 https://t.co/WLRTGSUpGUOct 06 09:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Lite 3.2 Enters Beta, Now Plays Nice with OtherOct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Distributions https://t.co/L0uYZaQtytOct 06 09:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Debian Project Needs You to Vote for the Final DebianOct 06 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 9 "Stretch" Artwork https://t.co/dAVAgh7OSDOct 06 09:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 i.MX6 UL COM has a carrier board with Raspberry Pi styleOct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 expansion https://t.co/iP3mS9utb3 (hackerboards.com)Oct 06 09:40
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TweetTuxMachines                 Wireshark 2.2.1 Network Protocol Analyzer Adds Ascend &Oct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 K12 Capture File Support https://t.co/zcstDdotnoOct 06 09:40
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TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Is Getting Optimus Support, AMD HybridOct 06 09:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Support Coming Soon https://t.co/7auTNXKDWYOct 06 09:40
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schestowitzDanish Financial Supervisory Authority (FSA) will be covered later this morning in Techrights...Oct 06 10:28
schestowitz> Thanks for the heads up.  I'll read it and likely forward it to someOct 06 10:34
schestowitz> friends in Denmark.  One fellow I worked with had his PhD delayed a yearOct 06 10:35
schestowitz> or so while the administrators and businesses fought over the softwareOct 06 10:35
schestowitz> patents.  He couldn't publish while that was going on and withoutOct 06 10:35
schestowitz> publishing the dissertation, he could not be awarded his PhD.Oct 06 10:35
schestowitzpublishableOct 06 11:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783950014624169984Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/eAmvdlHc16Oct 06 11:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak)Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783951027858993152Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10Oct 06 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (Yakkety Yak) https://t.co/WuOhBJX3hUOct 06 11:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | These Are the New Default Wallpapers of Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) | Tux MachinesOct 06 11:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Leap 42.2 Gets One Last Beta, Brings...'Oct 06 11:20
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schestowitz"Yeah, it's on the Intranet, so everyone would have seen it."Oct 06 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demosOct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/v6CVzdlm2X (thenextweb.com)Oct 06 12:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Google Play is reportedly streaming Android game demosOct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/783998390925422592Oct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 ‘Android is not invincible’: What Google is risking byOct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 releasing its Pixel smartphone https://t.co/WtYQzMCFBKOct 06 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.cnbc.com)Oct 06 12:54
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TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora meeting summary https://t.co/DvSKS1paieOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (ankursinha.in)Oct 06 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines                 Russia Weighs Replacing IBM, Microsoft With Open-SourceOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Software https://t.co/bF27hFe8No (www.bloomberg.com)Oct 06 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines                 Best Rugged Android Phone https://t.co/79Ac4Y38reOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com) "Bottom line: The Galaxy S7Oct 06 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines                 Active"Oct 06 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines                 Google Patches Android for 78 Vulnerabilities in OctoberOct 06 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Update https://t.co/K09PHLoMvO (www.eweek.com)Oct 06 13:04
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SebthreeBQM10HDoh wasn't back in here againOct 06 13:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/784004160840761346Oct 06 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: WebKitGTK+ and WPE are cool, but I'm more curious about this: https://t.co/W7Ckhz6NkB https://t.co/OJ4tUbylPBOct 06 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Web Engines Hackfest 2016! https://t.co/94BMQzxVnu #WebKitGTK #gnome #gtk #freesw #wwwOct 06 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784001891265052672Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 10 basic linux security measures everyone should be doingOct 06 13:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784003344402636800Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Frogr 1.2 released https://t.co/zApdkzIQ3T (mariospr.org)Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5AZBwAxls2 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Oct 06 13:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784005247756820480Oct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Pre-Order Gear S3 Classic and Frontier Smartwatch in theOct 06 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 UK https://t.co/AHYugwV9yS (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 06 13:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 Best Android Camera https://t.co/IsXEwGIobfOct 06 13:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 06 13:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784007756860776448Oct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big ScreenOct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5GzeJKfy6b (www.fastcompany.com)Oct 06 13:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | Andromeda Looks Like Android's Ticket To The Big Screen | Fast Company | Business + InnovationOct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784009947948408836Oct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's GuideOct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CYyQsguM6M (www.androidcentral.com)Oct 06 13:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Introducing the Android Central Smartphone Buyer's Guide | Android CentralOct 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784011037498564608Oct 06 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box inOct 06 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 your home https://t.co/WVyBB0mMAq (www.pocket-lint.com)Oct 06 13:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six reasons to have the Probox2 Air Android TV box in your home - Pocket-lintOct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012198582620161Oct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Android 7.1 Nougat Update vs. Pixel Android 7.1: LeakedOct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Changelog Reveals Difference https://t.co/C1TWTNXSgpOct 06 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ibtimes.com)Oct 06 13:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012577139556352Oct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the TizenOct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Store  https://t.co/kFVRVvXpWr (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 06 13:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Xender File Transfer Sharing App Launched on the Tizen Store - Tizen ExpertsOct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784012811907235840Oct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung Z2 is to be Launched in Kenya TodayOct 06 13:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YEBXoNphtK (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 06 13:51
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cubexyzwe're predicting 12 hours of rain and an immiment upgrade:Oct 06 15:13
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/kcci-news-time-for-windows-10.jpgOct 06 15:13
cubexyzimminent, learn to spellOct 06 15:14
cubexyza lot of people just don't have control of their computers Oct 06 15:18
cubexyzthey don't know anything about the BIOS, they sometimes can't even load an alternative OS, windows 10 can just barf out messages whenever it wantsOct 06 15:19
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows10-download.pngOct 06 15:20
XRevan86cubexyz: On a positive side, it does make a message %).Oct 06 15:21
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpgOct 06 15:26
MinceRhttp://archive.is/779nVOct 06 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | New AI Is Capable of Beating Humans At Doom - SlashdotOct 06 15:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784013102299906049Oct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux WithOct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review https://t.co/j9WkGdCOzXOct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.itechpost.com)Oct 06 15:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itechpost.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Runs Ubuntu Linux With Intel Kaby Lake CPU: Review : Tech : iTech PostOct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039396999782400Oct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux/FOSS Events: FOSSCON, FOSS Wave, Fedora,Oct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 systemd.conf https://t.co/PEtNeH8DxXOct 06 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 15:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/784039278070431745Oct 06 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bigonbe: @schestowitz Forkbomb command is even smaller than that...Oct 06 15:42
schestowitzI was thinking of that all along ;-)Oct 06 15:42
schestowitzcubexyz: I linked to your serverOct 06 15:45
schestowitzand now it's not accessible. "haha" indeed...Oct 06 15:45
schestowitzI cannot openOct 06 15:45
schestowitz[15:26] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-haha.jpgOct 06 15:45
schestowitzoh, wait, now it's moving super-slowrlyOct 06 15:46
schestowitzbefore that it just timed outOct 06 15:46
cubexyzoverload Oct 06 15:46
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schestowitzcubexyz: maybe add a caching layer?Oct 06 15:46
cubexyzshould be OK now but I'll look into itOct 06 15:47
schestowitzcubexyz: ok, cheersOct 06 15:48
schestowitzthanks for logging the channels alsoOct 06 15:48
cubexyznp :)Oct 06 15:48
schestowitzI'll need that some time later, put that on freeze while EPO is spyingOct 06 15:48
schestowitzI think Researcher- might be a bot of theirsOct 06 15:48
schestowitzbut not sure, just a theoryOct 06 15:49
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/7kgrz8D2E4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 15:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039400489426944Oct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/wSIpQ1htQuOct 06 15:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039401751924736Oct 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen/ARTIK/Samsung https://t.co/vu5sPxjNq4Oct 06 15:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784039403375034368Oct 06 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Russia's Nyet to Proprietary SoftwareOct 06 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hiu8OmC2s2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux is a new frontier for young developerOct 06 16:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/reR6BEizDZ (opensource.com)Oct 06 16:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Linux Story: Building a custom Linux distro | Opensource.comOct 06 16:10
*TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Linux is a new frontier for young developer...'Oct 06 16:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048257194491904Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 A general guide for the best practices of buying LinuxOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 games https://t.co/VtCFPAEIDZ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 16:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048459292835840Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Shadow Warrior 2 may not come to Linux after all, it'sOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 getting a bit confusing https://t.co/orHHfifgNlOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 16:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784048895076790273Oct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCNOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 1.0/1.1 GPUs https://t.co/ABRS6oBX1q (www.phoronix.com)Oct 06 16:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's An Ubuntu/Debian Kernel To Play With AMDGPU On GCN 1.0/1.1 GPUs - PhoronixOct 06 16:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784049407138365440Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 BUTCHER from Transhuman Design releases with day-1 LinuxOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 support, it's brutal https://t.co/cOMGaINMZOOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 06 16:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784050606487048192Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 KernelOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Kt01MYp7S0 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XFS File-System Updates For The Linux 4.9 Kernel - PhoronixOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784051178950782977Oct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 More changes in Linux 4.9 https://t.co/wJtMnsgwEsOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/GZgh022E44Oct 06 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sound Updates For Linux 4.9: Skylake Audio Still Being Tuned - PhoronixOct 06 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Oct 06 16:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Elan Touchsceeen Driver, GPIO Decoder For "Input" On Linux 4.9 - PhoronixOct 06 16:26
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/prHQnDSOct 06 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So what exactly are the consequences? - ImgurOct 06 17:37
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cubexyzthis one might upset the kiddies:Oct 06 17:50
cubexyzhttp://maxhost.org/other/mrs-potato-head-bsod.jpgOct 06 17:50
razielle_tzulolOct 06 17:51
MinceR:)Oct 06 17:53
cubexyzlast one for today I promise:Oct 06 18:01
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/mr-peanut-bsod.jpgOct 06 18:01
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012Oct 06 19:03
schestowitzMinceR: yeah...Oct 06 19:13
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp12c3-IL-IOct 06 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Spherical Droste Effect, with added twist and recursion. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/puo6y ]Oct 06 19:23
XFaCE[13:07:49]<MinceR> there goes the 'branding'...Oct 06 19:33
schestowitzyeahOct 06 19:33
schestowitzbut whose?Oct 06 19:33
XFaCEI've been keeping track of the systemd stupidity via an excellent threat at Gentoo ForumsOct 06 19:33
XFaCEit's depressingOct 06 19:33
MinceRgnome'sOct 06 19:34
XFaCE*threadOct 06 19:34
XFaCEMinceR: same difference at this pointOct 06 19:34
XFaCEit's all relatedOct 06 19:34
XFaCEand has some level of collusionOct 06 19:34
schestowitzsystemd not a hard req for gnome?Oct 06 19:35
schestowitzSometimes explained to me recently it's still somehow possible to avoid itOct 06 19:35
XFaCEschestowitz: that seems to be in fluxOct 06 19:35
schestowitzbut not for long, or not simplyOct 06 19:35
XFaCEschestowitz: Funtoo has standalone GnomeOct 06 19:35
schestowitzso then there's just one of each: init system, network system etc.Oct 06 19:35
XFaCEby extension Gentoo toOct 06 19:35
XFaCEoOct 06 19:35
schestowitzand systemd expects app devs to rewrite their apps to cope with systemd apisOct 06 19:36
XFaCEschestowitz: BTW, reading up it seems Gentoo has a systemd dev who develops the main alternative to systemd tooOct 06 19:36
XFaCEopenrcOct 06 19:36
schestowitzso that'll be the deal breakerOct 06 19:36
schestowitzas the apps are not even strictly tied to gnome itself (the shell)Oct 06 19:36
XFaCEand for the past few years has been breaking openrc with unnecessary changesOct 06 19:36
XFaCEand is able to do this with impunityOct 06 19:37
XFaCEand no consequenceOct 06 19:37
XFaCEschestowitz: I assume you saw that announcement about multiple versions of GTK4+ to be installed on one computer to help fix compatibility?Oct 06 19:37
XFaCEhow windows of themOct 06 19:37
XFaCEschestowitz: so if you have an application that needs 4.2, and you have 4.6, you will have both versions installedOct 06 19:39
XFaCEand increased the number of versions for every GTK application on your computersOct 06 19:39
XFaCE*increaseOct 06 19:40
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MinceR06 203513 < schestowitz> systemd not a hard req for gnome?Oct 06 19:45
MinceRit is, but funtoo/gentoo have patches to fix itOct 06 19:45
MinceRhttps://github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemdOct 06 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd: GNOME Without SystemdOct 06 19:46
MinceR>systemd is a hard run time dependency for basic functionalityOct 06 19:46
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MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161005/15280135720/prominent-pro-patent-judge-issues-opinion-declaring-all-software-patents-bad.shtmlOct 06 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prominent Pro-Patent Judge Issues Opinion Declaring All Software Patents Bad | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/puobt ]Oct 06 19:49
XFaCEMinceR: I prefer another alternative Gnome project, called Xfce :3Oct 06 19:54
MinceRi didn't know that was a gnome projectOct 06 19:54
XFaCEMinceR: it's a jokeOct 06 19:54
MinceRi like fvwm with xfce4-panel and xfce4-power-managerOct 06 19:55
XFaCEas in, the better alternative is to not run Gnome at all :POct 06 19:55
MinceRicOct 06 19:55
MinceRin that case, i agreeOct 06 19:55
XFaCEespcially if I have to waste time with "extensions"Oct 06 19:55
XFaCEcompare to Xfce, where the "extensions" are just additional applications that augment an ALREADY complete DEOct 06 19:56
XFaCE*AUGMENT*Oct 06 19:56
MinceR:)Oct 06 19:56
schestowitzMinceR: thanks, missed this linkOct 06 19:58
MinceRywOct 06 19:59
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/okertbrian/status/784114091342213120Oct 06 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@okertbrian: @schestowitz @DrJillStein that one is hard to buy.Oct 06 20:35
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/fuZLzbVOct 06 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You're not supposed to report yourself, silly - ImgurOct 06 21:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784118663397908480Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Remix OS Brings Android For PC  https://t.co/vFuSCiA1iMOct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Oct 06 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124138097037312Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Graphics https://t.co/7mKsU9TyvPOct 06 21:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux MachinesOct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124139355328512Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvBOct 06 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124141033009152Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits?Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HbXzU629hN (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 21:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Organizations, Judged on their Merits? | Tux MachinesOct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124142337400832Oct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security TipsOct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LSfZdVw9nK (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 21:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unity 8 in Yak, Leap 42.2 Beta 3, Basic Security Tips | Tux MachinesOct 06 21:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124143486631936Oct 06 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/GXL0Nhp0wUOct 06 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesOct 06 21:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784124182216970240Oct 06 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 Oct 06 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rrfyTPHtRn (dot.kde.org)Oct 06 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Student Programs announces Season of KDE 2016-2017 | KDE.newsOct 06 21:13
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zoobabI love Gene QuinnOct 06 21:15
zoobabhttp://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/10/06/judge-mayer-step-down-federal-circuit/id=73567/Oct 06 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It is time for Judge Mayer to Step Down from the Federal Circuit - IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law [ http://ur1.ca/puorl ]Oct 06 21:15
MinceRit hurts gene quinn's butt, as it shouldOct 06 21:24
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/dXhjM9W.gifvOct 06 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Deer Loves Leaf BlowerOct 06 21:45
*TweetTuxMachines @Marked_By_Rage favourited 'Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/P2HKXhYgvB'Oct 06 21:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784131642248011776Oct 06 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With UbuntuOct 06 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org)Oct 06 21:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With Ubuntu Linux | TechrightsOct 06 21:52
schestowitzzoobab: he shoots his own footOct 06 21:57
schestowitzzoobab: the headline is a lieOct 06 21:57
schestowitzzoobab: will respond to it soonOct 06 21:57
schestowitzMinceR: cute video...Oct 06 22:01
schestowitzmaybe the rich people think, "oohh, deer, it's delocious!"Oct 06 22:01
MinceRnot only the rich people doOct 06 22:01
schestowitzdepends whereOct 06 22:02
schestowitzin some places it's more "exotic" a menu itemOct 06 22:02
MinceRand exotic menu items can't be good? :>Oct 06 22:04
schestowitzexpensiveOct 06 22:10
schestowitzflown inOct 06 22:10
schestowitzwe're not burning fossil fuels to transport dead animals for rich people's restaurantsOct 06 22:11
schestowitz"not so bright folks, not so bright.."-CarlinOct 06 22:11
MinceRyou're not? :>Oct 06 22:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/784134127763202048Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 6/10/2016: KDE Student Programs, Dell With UbuntuOct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Linux https://t.co/M64uztnRvB (techrights.org)Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784140028972822528Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser withOct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines                 new Linux OS in December, says MuskOct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co)Oct 06 22:16
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | ElectrekOct 06 22:16
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MinceRit's not like we produce much food inside citiesOct 06 22:18
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/apples_software_may_not_be_so_terrible/Oct 06 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Is Apple's software getting worse or what? • The RegisterOct 06 22:27
DaemonFC"Developer Marco Arment took Apple to task early last year, arguing that OS X (recently rebranded macOS) is full of embarrassing bugs and that the company is trying to do too much on unrealistic deadlines.Oct 06 22:27
DaemonFCArment subsequently disavowed his post because of the widespread media attention it received. But there was blood in the water and the feeding frenzy has continued at Apple's expense, at least in part because controversy, manufactured or not, drives online traffic."Oct 06 22:27
MinceRit can get worse?Oct 06 22:27
DaemonFCIn other words, Apple probably threatened to jam up his apps in the "approval process" and start kicking them back for all sorts of reasons, so he shut up and walked it back.Oct 06 22:28
DaemonFCMinceR, The fact that there is suddenly all kinds of malware and ransomware for Macs is something they've been trying to sweep under the rug.Oct 06 22:30
DaemonFCThey can't blacklist it fast enough. By the time Apple responds, there's already another variant.Oct 06 22:30
MinceRsuddenly?Oct 06 22:31
DaemonFCShortly thereafter, Apple executives Eddy Cue, SVP of internet software and services, and Craig Federighi, SVP of software engineering, responded to Mossberg's complaints in an interview with Daring Fireball's John Gruber. About 25 minutes in, Federighi said, "I know our core software quality has improved over the last five years. Improved significantly." And he noted that with regard to software quality, "There's nothing we care about more."Oct 06 22:31
DaemonFCThe Register asked Apple to provide some software quality metrics – the company gets crash reports from millions of its customers who opt in, and it has internal processes for assessing the quality of its engineering work. But Apple did not respond.Oct 06 22:31
DaemonFCHahaOct 06 22:31
DaemonFCNo comment.Oct 06 22:32
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/google_faces_age_discrimination_suit/Oct 06 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Google 'screwed over' its non-millennials – now they can all fight back • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup46 ]Oct 06 22:33
stitesThe greatest expansion  in what software is patentable occurred when Judge Mayer was chief judge of the  USCAFC. Judge Mayer oversaw the creation of software patents. Now Judge Mayer  has written an opinion which fully agrees with the points made by any of the  anti-software patent people, including me.  There is a very good explanation of both the legalities and politics of Judge  Mayer's ruling in te3chdirt.  https://www.techdirOct 06 22:33
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DaemonFCIntel does this too. They drop workers who turn 40.Oct 06 22:34
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/early_indications_show_uk_favouring_hard_brexit_says_expert/Oct 06 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Early indications show UK favouring 'hard Brexit', says expert • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pup4i ]Oct 06 22:35
DaemonFC"Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal"Oct 06 22:35
DaemonFCIt's likely to harm their economy much worse than the benefits it brings.Oct 06 22:35
razielle_tzuyeahOct 06 22:36
razielle_tzuwe're fuckedOct 06 22:36
DaemonFCThey are heavily reliant on agricultural imports, so the shock at the grocery register is going to be pretty bad if the tariffs hit.Oct 06 22:36
DaemonFCOf course, they could start importing things from the US, to some extent.Oct 06 22:36
DaemonFCWe have surpluses on certain items to the point that it is triggering government buying to keep prices stable.Oct 06 22:37
razielle_tzuwe could...Oct 06 22:37
DaemonFCThe UK is already buying up coal that is being mined in Illinois that doesn't meet US clean air laws.Oct 06 22:38
DaemonFC(Which just means that it gets burned somewhere else while we pretend that we don't share an atmosphere.)Oct 06 22:38
DaemonFCOf course, the high sulfur content means that much of the acid rain that it results in will affect the UK and surrounding countries.Oct 06 22:39
razielle_tzui know :/Oct 06 22:39
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DaemonFCThere's just something about English-speaking countries and widespread denial of global warming and other environmental problems.Oct 06 22:40
DaemonFCI ride past an old nuclear powere plant in Zion on the Metra train now and then.Oct 06 22:41
DaemonFCSome idiot inserted the control rods too far into one of the reactors back in the late 90s and accidentally shut it down, then tried to bring it back up too quickly without following procedure.Oct 06 22:41
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/zUAtucPOct 06 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The latest version o - ImgurOct 06 22:41
DaemonFCEnded up doing a ton of damage to the generators.Oct 06 22:42
DaemonFCThe other one was down for refueling.Oct 06 22:42
DaemonFCComEd came in, decided that their license would be up in a little over another decade, and decided that it would cost less to shut the plant down immediately.Oct 06 22:42
DaemonFCThey might have gotten an extension, but they might have spent hundreds of millions of dollars fixing the plant and then not getting a new license.Oct 06 22:43
DaemonFCSo they buried the reactor waste on-site, a few hundred feet from Lake Michigan.Oct 06 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/784140168500350976Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser withOct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines @Soundtoxin     new Linux OS in December, says MuskOct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T1mClkNxaa (electrek.co)Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | ElectrekOct 06 22:44
DaemonFCAnd then they started tearing down the facility. They sent a bunch of stuff to be stored or incinerated in Nevada.Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784146614516649984Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Wrapping up Outreachy https://t.co/tTOQ4A4G3vOct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (renatagegaj.wordpress.com)Oct 06 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-renatagegaj.wordpress.com | Wrapping up Outreachy | Renata's BlogOct 06 22:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147218479484928Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/PUkfOFhSmaOct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:44
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 06 22:44
DaemonFCNow there are armed guards and vehicle barricades, and all that good stuff.Oct 06 22:44
DaemonFCThey sold the license off to another company along with a bunch of decommissioning money they raised by tacking it on to Illinois power bills.Oct 06 22:45
DaemonFCNow the money is almost gone, the decommissioning is not on schedule, and the company will probably go bankrupt. The state or federal governments will have to get involved, meaning taxpayer money.Oct 06 22:45
DaemonFCAll of this over some electricity that was used up decades ago.Oct 06 22:46
DaemonFCAnyway, it makes me wonder what that technician is doing these days.Oct 06 22:46
DaemonFCInterviewer: "So what did you do at your last job?"Oct 06 22:46
DaemonFCI don't think "I destroyed a nuclear power plant." is going to be a good answer.Oct 06 22:47
DaemonFCCongress won't pick a permanent storage site for nuclear waste, so we have all of these decommissioned facilities storing it on site with armed guards around it.Oct 06 22:48
DaemonFCIt will only get worse.Oct 06 22:48
DaemonFCAdd on top of that, that we have all of these reactors going that were designed in the 60s and put into service in the 60s and 70s getting license extensions, and we don't even really know if that's safe.Oct 06 22:49
DaemonFCNow, some of these are sitting near fault lines, in Tornado Alley, and in areas where a hurricane could even hit them.Oct 06 22:50
DaemonFCI'm surprised that nothing has happened since Three Mile Island to be honest.Oct 06 22:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147219624529921Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Bugs and Security https://t.co/xxy1zIxfZNOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bugs and Security | Tux MachinesOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147220845125632Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Server Administration https://t.co/pLRqhYR351Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server Administration | Tux MachinesOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147222887665664Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/X12NIoEBThOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784147224196284417Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser withOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 new Linux OS in December, says MuskOct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LiJkWbDFAi (www.tuxmachines.org)Oct 06 22:54
TweetTuxMachines Oct 06 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Tux MachinesOct 06 22:54
MinceR>"I just need things that work, and that I can rely on working," he lamented. "I say this with the utmost regret, sadness, and no small sense of betrayal: Apple doesn't seem to make those things anymore."Oct 06 22:55
MinceRgood morning, if crApple ever did that, they stopped decades agoOct 06 22:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/784148982968836100Oct 06 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: come on, it's obvious: *jam* https://t.co/qj60owZ1w9Oct 06 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Not clear which UK goods and service will benefit from prospective new trade deal" https://t.co/pPY9QzhJw4 #uk #brexitOct 06 22:56
DaemonFCMinceR, Many of the malware attacks on Windowws have historically taken advantage of people who had updates turned off.Oct 06 22:59
MinceRnow m$ takes advantage of people who have updates turned onOct 06 23:00
DaemonFCThere'd be a new major piece of malware spreading and it would turn out that Microsoft had actually patched the vulnerability it was using months ago.Oct 06 23:00
MinceRusing m$ products is not the solution, regardless of settingsOct 06 23:00
DaemonFCApple recently patched abbout 90 security holes at once.Oct 06 23:01
MinceRhow many did they open at the same time?Oct 06 23:01
DaemonFCThey just let them pile up for months before fixing them. That's probably where so much of this malware is coming from.Oct 06 23:01
MinceRcrApple even lets upstream fixes pile up for months before delivering themOct 06 23:02
DaemonFCYeah, the majority of the fixes in Webkit come from Google, Opera, Vivaldi, KDE, GNOME, etc.Oct 06 23:03
MinceR(in BIND, for example)Oct 06 23:03
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/microsoft_silent_outlookcom_woes/Oct 06 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Never explain, never apologize: Microsoft silent on Outlook.com email server grief • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupa6 ]Oct 06 23:03
DaemonFCWho uses ISP email>Oct 06 23:03
DaemonFCIf you leave, they delete your email account.Oct 06 23:04
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/05/can_facebook_influence_an_election_result/Oct 06 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Can Facebook influence an election result? • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/pupab ]Oct 06 23:04
DaemonFCOne reason why Hillary Clinton will win.Oct 06 23:04
MinceRwell, at least not golden dawnaldOct 06 23:05
DaemonFCFacebook will probably alert mostly Clinton supporters to go vote.Oct 06 23:05
DaemonFCMinceR, John and I went to vote yesterday.Oct 06 23:05
DaemonFCClintonOct 06 23:05
MinceR:)Oct 06 23:05
DaemonFCI voted for Democrats on most of the ballot.Oct 06 23:05
DaemonFCThere were some offices where it was Democrats vs. Greens with no Republican, so I voted for the Greens there.Oct 06 23:06
MinceR:)Oct 06 23:06
DaemonFCI voted to remove about 40 judges from the bench.Oct 06 23:06
DaemonFCTo eliminate the Cook County Recorder of Deeds. To give workers a minimum of 40 hours paid sick leave. To create a constitutional requirement to use transportation-related taxes for transportation projects.Oct 06 23:07
DaemonFCAlso for harsher sentencing for gun traffickers, people who illegally possess guns, and people who commit crimes with a gun.Oct 06 23:07
DaemonFCMinceR, It was a hell of a printout at the end.Oct 06 23:08
DaemonFCThat's not even half of what we were voting on. :POct 06 23:08
DaemonFCI don't like judges in general. To make things worse, they get lifetime appointments to the bench. So you have judges that have been there since the 60s and 70s.Oct 06 23:09
DaemonFCTime for some new ones. I doubt they'll get any of them off the bench though. That's the part of the ballot where people go "Gee, I don't know." and either don't vote or vote yes on keeping all of them. Oct 06 23:10
DaemonFCI just can't see how someone who has the worldview that it's still the 1970s is supposed to rule on some of these cases that they are getting.Oct 06 23:10
DaemonFCThey should get 20 years on the bench and then go back into private practice or something.Oct 06 23:11
DaemonFCWe're asking people who didn't have a computer until they were in their 40s and who don't know the difference between a Mac and a PC to rule if Facebook's photo tagging violates the biometric security law.Oct 06 23:13
DaemonFCThen to make things better, you get jurors who are plumbers, nursing assistants, and stockboys at Walmart deciding the case.Oct 06 23:14
DaemonFCAnd the lawyers aren't allowed to explain what the law says.Oct 06 23:14
DaemonFCschestowitz keeps writing about East Texas.Oct 06 23:14
DaemonFCI think that's what's happing.Oct 06 23:14
DaemonFCThe article says,Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFCFacebook deployed the button in a massive experiment in the 2010 US congressional elections.Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFCVersions of the button, or no button at all, were shown to 61 million people in a joint study of the University of California, San Diego, with Facebook data scientists.Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFCThey used voting records to determine the button’s impact on real-world voting. It turns out the button’s call to action increased the total vote count by 340,000 votes.Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFC...Oct 06 23:15
DaemonFCBut who are those 340,000 extra voters, and why did Facebook poke them?Oct 06 23:16
DaemonFC"t cites the example of the 2000 US presidential race, in which George W Bush beat Al Gore in Florida by a mere 537 votes. Had Gore carried Florida he would have won the presidential election."Oct 06 23:16
DaemonFCOfficially, that's what happened.Oct 06 23:16
DaemonFCRepublicans in the state government and on the US Supreme Court stopped the recount.Oct 06 23:17
DaemonFCSo it was 537, give or take some tens of thousands that got sent to the shredding machines.Oct 06 23:17
DaemonFC"Facebook could therefore deploy the “I Voted” tool selectively only for supporters of candidates or political parties of its choosing, thereby amplifying only their votes.Oct 06 23:18
DaemonFCThis, it should be stated, would be legal, even if done covertly."Oct 06 23:18
DaemonFC"But let’s assume that Facebook would not be willing to take such a risk."Oct 06 23:18
DaemonFCLet us assume no such thing. They already got caught burying news from conservative news sites.Oct 06 23:19
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DaemonFCAs far as the 2010 election goes, I doubt Facebook made significant changes to what the outcome would have been.Oct 06 23:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784152859726245888Oct 06 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz They're at it in this country, too.Oct 06 23:23
DaemonFCOnly about 12% of the elections for US House seats are truly competitive. The state parties have drawn districts around the voters (gerrymandering) to get their desired result for the district election very nearly all of the time.Oct 06 23:23
DaemonFCIllinois is pretty funny, actually, when you look at the districts.Oct 06 23:24
DaemonFCChicago has half of the districts, and then you get districts like that one downstate that's nearly 20% of the land area of the state by itself, and represented by a Republican that goes on Facebook to rant that we're doomed because the end times are coming and we've pissed God off.Oct 06 23:25
DaemonFCThe Democrats drew the districts for Illinois, so they caged off a ton of Republican voters who get one representative in that district.Oct 06 23:26
DaemonFCI'm surprised there was even a Republican on my ballot for Congress this year. This district is D+24. :POct 06 23:28
DaemonFChttps://ballotpedia.org/Illinois%27_2nd_Congressional_DistrictOct 06 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ballotpedia.org | Illinois' 2nd Congressional District - BallotpediaOct 06 23:29
DaemonFCIn the last election, the Democrat got 78.5% of the vote.Oct 06 23:29
DaemonFCMinceR, Is this how elections are in Hungary?Oct 06 23:30
DaemonFCThey write the election laws so it's impossible to get rid of them no matter how you vote?Oct 06 23:30
MinceRno, it's differentOct 06 23:31
MinceRthe usa has a 2-party systemOct 06 23:31
MinceRhungary has a 1-party systemOct 06 23:31
schestowitzus is a 1.5-party system ;-)Oct 06 23:32
DaemonFChttps://gizmodo.com/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-1771012990Oct 06 23:32
schestowitz0.5 overlaps ;-)Oct 06 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Facebook Employees Asked Mark Zuckerberg If They Should Try to Stop a Donald Trump Presidency  [ http://ur1.ca/pupfl ]Oct 06 23:32
DaemonFC“I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as ‘others,’” Zuckerberg said, never referring to Trump by name. “I hear them calling for blocking free expression, for slowing immigration, for reducing trade, and in some cases, even for cutting access to the internet.”Oct 06 23:32
MinceRfidesz/kdnp rewrote the election laws so they can get 2/3 of the seats in the parliament even if they get a minority of the votesOct 06 23:32
MinceRand put in more ways they can game the systemOct 06 23:32
DaemonFCFacebook does block free expression. You piss a few people off, they go crying to Facebook, your account gets banned for 3 days.Oct 06 23:32
DaemonFCI've had it happen a few times.Oct 06 23:33
MinceRthere are rumors that they're planning to retroactively make the last (failed) referendum validOct 06 23:33
DaemonFCMinceR, That's worse than it is here.Oct 06 23:33
MinceRno shitOct 06 23:33
MinceRDaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever againOct 06 23:33
DaemonFCThe Democrats would have to get 58% of the total US House vote to be sure to get 50% of the seats.Oct 06 23:33
MinceRalso tell everyone else the sameOct 06 23:33
schestowitz[23:33] <MinceR> DaemonFC: that's easy to fix: delete all your dumbFuckBook accounts and don't use dumbFuckBook ever againOct 06 23:34
schestowitz+Oct 06 23:34
schestowitz1Oct 06 23:34
DaemonFCFacebook is always looking for ways to break Facebook customization browser extensions.Oct 06 23:34
schestowitzi helped others delete their account tooOct 06 23:34
schestowitzdoes fb still use b0ng?Oct 06 23:35
DaemonFCOh, they say that there's a feature in their Messenger apps for iOS and Android now that let you have a private conversation, end-to-end encryption, self-destruct messages, etc.Oct 06 23:35
DaemonFCClaim FB can't even read them.Oct 06 23:35
schestowitze.g. for search, translations?Oct 06 23:35
DaemonFCIt has all of those "What about the children!?" people up in arms.Oct 06 23:35
MinceRdon't trust dFB with that eitherOct 06 23:35
MinceR"they trust me"Oct 06 23:35
MinceR"dumb fucks"Oct 06 23:35
schestowitzin the earsOct 06 23:35
DaemonFCSo I posted to their walls "People shouldn't trust Facebook. They should use uTox for a private conversation.".Oct 06 23:35
MinceRan alleged end-to-end encrypted communication software is worthless if it isn't free softwareOct 06 23:36
MinceRexactlyOct 06 23:36
DaemonFCThe only thing you should say on Facebook Messenger is "If you want a private conversation, meet me on uTox.".Oct 06 23:36
schestowitzthey take the private keysOct 06 23:36
schestowitzI reckonOct 06 23:36
schestowitzsame thing I suppose apple doesOct 06 23:36
schestowitzbut it's 'cloud' and proprietary, so FBI will say, "use it, it's safe"...Oct 06 23:36
schestowitze2eOct 06 23:36
schestowitzwith us as the ends' 'backup'Oct 06 23:36
schestowitzwink winkOct 06 23:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/784159115706830848Oct 06 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz @glynmoody @rj_gallagher Glyn is absolutely fearless!Oct 06 23:50
schestowitzhe has nothing to hide [sarcasm /]Oct 06 23:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SamSamK007/status/784163944021815296Oct 06 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SamSamK007: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @HillaryClinton https://t.co/wEENZED9ghOct 06 23:51
DaemonFCLooks like someont polled the Illinois Transportation Lockbox Amendment and "Yes" is at 80%.Oct 07 00:00
DaemonFCIt should easily pass. (We voted yes.)Oct 07 00:00
DaemonFCNobody trusts the legislature to stop raiding transportation funds and diverting it to other things.Oct 07 00:00
DaemonFCI suspect that I'm not the only one who gets mad that I'm paying hundreds of dollars in transportation taxes each year and every time I turn down another road I hit a pothole.Oct 07 00:01
DaemonFCWith any luck, we'll also get a new Comptroller and that puppet of Governor Rauner who is funding his priorities and starving out things like Medicaid has to leave.Oct 07 00:02
DaemonFCThe state never has enough money to pay its bills, so they fund priorities of the Republican Party and tell everyone else to wait.Oct 07 00:03
DaemonFCRauner has managed to inflict a lot of damage on transportation so far.Oct 07 00:03
DaemonFCHe impounded the money that Metra was going to use to buy new passenger rail cars. Now they're going to have to keep the ones they have rolling. Many were overdue for replacement 16 years ago.Oct 07 00:04
DaemonFCSo the lockbox amendment is a big "fuck you" to him.Oct 07 00:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Brad_Kayl/status/784165805353164805Oct 07 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brad_Kayl: @schestowitz None of my Ubuntu machines can connect, but my Windows partition magically works just fine. Hm.... #DeletingMyAccountOct 07 00:07
schestowitzOutlookOct 07 00:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: your urlOct 07 00:07
DaemonFCYeah, Outlook isn't very reliable.Oct 07 00:09
DaemonFCA few years back, thye broke it in their own web browser and told people to use Chrome for a while. :)Oct 07 00:09
DaemonFCbrbOct 07 00:11
DaemonFCHave to put a new sticker on my windshield before the $200 parking tickets start rolling in. :POct 07 00:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 Software in a Box Daily wurde soeben publiziert!Oct 07 00:16
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7936187Oct 07 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk https://electrek.co/2016/10/06/tesla-updated-browser-linux-os-december-says-musk/Oct 07 01:09
schestowitz"Why does a car need a web browser?"Oct 07 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> electrek.co | Tesla vehicles to get a much-needed updated browser with new Linux OS in December, says Musk | Electrek [ http://ur1.ca/pupvv ]Oct 07 01:09
schestowitznot to play pokemon go, that's for sureOct 07 01:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, People are paying Uber drivers to take them Pokemon hunting.Oct 07 01:11
schestowitzlolOct 07 01:15
schestowitzwaste of fuelOct 07 01:15
schestowitzand timeOct 07 01:15
schestowitzfacebook was mostly a waste of timeOct 07 01:15
schestowitzat least that stupid games makes some people walk around rather than watch tv all dayOct 07 01:15
DaemonFCIt looks like Hillary Clinton's lead is expanding in the polls.Oct 07 01:17
DaemonFCDonald Trump is going to have to convince a lot of people to vote for him over the next 33 days, and many states have voting going on now.Oct 07 01:18
DaemonFCSo it doesn't look likely.Oct 07 01:18
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cubexyzok, re-examining df.c from unix v5, should be interestingOct 07 01:41
cubexyzdfOct 07 01:55
cubexyzoopsOct 07 01:55
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cubexyzreporting used and available blocks would be niceOct 07 02:06
cubexyzyou might be wondering if v6 and v7 did thatOct 07 02:07
cubexyzthey did notOct 07 02:09
cubexyzthe Unix v8 df command was much betterOct 07 02:11
cubexyztoo bad qmc didn't bother improving dfOct 07 02:22
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cubexyzevidently Ampex Corp made a new improved df but the source code wasn't recoveredOct 07 02:29
cubexyzah, too tired to dig into it nowOct 07 02:32
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/lenovo-in-talks-to-buy-fujitsus-loss-making-pc-business/Oct 07 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lenovo in talks to buy Fujitsu’s loss-making PC business | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqdz ]Oct 07 02:46
DaemonFCLenovo is taking over what's left of Fujitsu's PC business.Oct 07 02:46
DaemonFCLenovo is promising to keep existing factories and jobs, but eventually most will be closed/fired.Oct 07 02:47
DaemonFCWhen it took over Motorola it let people keep their jobs, but not for very long.Oct 07 02:47
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/cops-arrest-hundreds-of-people-allegedly-involved-in-irs-phone-scam/Oct 07 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Cops arrest hundreds of people allegedly involved in IRS phone scam | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/puqec ]Oct 07 02:48
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TweetTuxMachines                 Open source IT pros are in high-demand in EuropeOct 07 02:50
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/10/gears-of-war-4-the-next-gen-is-now-if-youre-on-windows-10-at-least/Oct 07 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Gears of War 4: The next gen is now—if you’re on Windows 10, at least | Ars TechnicaOct 07 02:56
DaemonFCIf you use Intel graphics, you need their beta driver, or your computer will crash when you load the game.Oct 07 02:57
DaemonFC"Gears of War 4's campaign mode might be one of the worst I've played in years."Oct 07 02:58
DaemonFCGears of War fell off a pretty steep cliff after the first one.Oct 07 02:58
DaemonFCAnd it was really hard to play the campaign without a second player in some spots on the first game.Oct 07 02:59
DaemonFCMicrosoft marketed the Xbox One as a console capable of 4K, but the Gears of War 4 game is locked to 1080p and 30 fps.Oct 07 03:00
DaemonFCThis isn't the first time they fudged.Oct 07 03:00
DaemonFCHalo 3 on the XBOX 360 wasn't even rendered at 720p. It just upscaled.Oct 07 03:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 Dell Launches Its New Ubuntu-Powered XPS 13 DeveloperOct 07 03:17
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Tervyhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/06/you_know_that_ridiculously_expensive_oculus_rift_yeah_it_just_got_worse/ about the custom headphonejacksOct 07 11:42
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schestowitzdid anyone here try it?Oct 07 11:52
schestowitzI tried something similar, made me have a headache quicklyOct 07 11:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784309277359902720Oct 07 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership withOct 07 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Mediatek https://t.co/xL4KRT6e0z (www.tizenexperts.com)Oct 07 12:20
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung might soon be announcing a partnership with Mediatek - Tizen ExpertsOct 07 12:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352452531392512Oct 07 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let'sOct 07 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Encrypt Certificates https://t.co/BAEP1TQTwTOct 07 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 07 12:20
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt CertificatesOct 07 12:20
MinceRdnf/yum/rpm quality package management >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/Oct 07 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/ )Oct 07 12:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784352707880579074Oct 07 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming SoonOct 07 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 to Ubuntu MATE 16.04 https://t.co/ksMiuFOkUFOct 07 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 07 12:27
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MATE Desktop 1.16 Lands in Ubuntu MATE 16.10, Coming Soon to Ubuntu MATE 16.04Oct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353159363919872Oct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool forOct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/SLhd2vetxzOct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces Snapcraft 2.19 Snap Creator Tool for Ubuntu 16.04 LTSOct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784353559626276864Oct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes KernelOct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Keyring Non-Containable https://t.co/yczrHCQpQ2Oct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 07 12:28
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Flatpak 0.6.12 Linux Application Sandboxing Makes Kernel Keyring Non-ContainableOct 07 12:28
schestowitzMinceR: it's a good thing red hat has fedora to experiment on ;-)Oct 07 12:29
schestowitzso as not to affect their paying customersOct 07 12:29
MinceRexcept they deploy all their halfbaked shit to rHELL tooOct 07 12:31
MinceRlike systemdOct 07 12:31
MinceRsomeone needs to tell them that letting crappy software rot and fester for a year doesn't magically make it stableOct 07 12:31
MinceRyum was garbage as wellOct 07 12:31
MinceRand there's no indication that dnf is any betterOct 07 12:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784354553869336576Oct 07 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, ItOct 07 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Launches on October 13 https://t.co/Ew82eltFfWOct 07 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Oct 07 12:33
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Final Freeze Now in Effect, It Launches on October 13Oct 07 12:33
*TweetTuxMachines @slackolinux retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Slackware-Based Superb Mini Server 2.0.9 Supports Let's Encrypt...'Oct 07 12:33
oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch.  The end result that guys point of view  https://solettaproject.org/ or systemdOct 07 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 07 13:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784356019925291008Oct 07 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Tomb Raider for Linux is currently super cheap on theOct 07 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Feral store https://t.co/mMoElBsZc4Oct 07 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Oct 07 13:54
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MinceRhttp://jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu/2012/08/julius-caesar-wally-wood-mad-monday.htmlOct 07 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeffoverturf.blogspot.hu | Inside Jeff Overturf's Head: "Julius Caesar!" - Wally Wood - Mad Monday! [ http://ur1.ca/puupt ]Oct 07 19:45
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schestowitz[13:15] <oiaohm> MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I This is a interesting video to watch.  The end result that guys point of view  https://solettaproject.org/ or systemdOct 07 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 07 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://solettaproject.org/ )Oct 07 20:08
schestowitzposted a link to it the other day, maybe that's where oiaohm found itOct 07 20:08
MinceRmore cancerd advertisement, i don't careOct 07 20:08
MinceR(also mixed up with some IoT advertisement)Oct 07 20:08
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schestowitzMinceR:yes, yum I always found to be sucky compared to aptOct 07 20:08
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schestowitzdnf is hardly excited, the yum guy died, shortly afterwards they rebranded their packagingOct 07 20:09
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schestowitz[19:18] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/iHB8bgz.jpgOct 07 20:20
schestowitzcrudeOct 07 20:20
MinceRi don't see howOct 07 20:20
schestowitznot for the faint-heartedOct 07 20:21
schestowitzwell, let's just say I won't post it publiclyOct 07 20:22
schestowitzalthough there's a funny element to itOct 07 20:22
schestowitzI don't get the one with the tapOct 07 20:22
schestowitzclearly it was designed this wayOct 07 20:23
schestowitznot as a prankOct 07 20:23
schestowitzmaybe the world's worst plumber, my friend had experience with a few recently, one after another they messed up the bath, each time  with different shoddy workOct 07 20:23
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MinceRhttps://media.giphy.com/media/ZsXORybHZvEpq/giphy.gifOct 07 20:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ElinaBeauchamp/status/784477703621664768Oct 07 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ElinaBeauchamp: @yahoo is not worth anything anymore https://t.co/TdR4cBSxKPOct 07 20:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476402041192448Oct 07 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 "join the Debian LEGO team in the Alioth project weOct 07 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 created yesterday" https://t.co/gd5jFbu41sOct 07 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (people.skolelinux.org)Oct 07 20:43
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.skolelinux.org | Petter Reinholdtsen: Isenkram, Appstream and udev make life as a LEGO builder easierOct 07 20:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784476862735056900Oct 07 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, AndroidOct 07 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hccZoFp3nW (www.slashgear.com)Oct 07 20:44
TweetTuxMachines Oct 07 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BMW Connected service adds Alexa and, finally, Android - SlashGearOct 07 20:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/784479007014346752Oct 07 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @schestowitz @nypost That is so interesting, I think it's right colonies pay the price for colluding with state agenciesOct 07 20:45
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MinceRhttp://assets.amuniversal.com/44c298e061770134c40c005056a9545d   (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-10-04 )Oct 07 20:58
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArnoldDuendis/status/784483624452186112 https://twitter.com/kempton276/status/784484224657219586  https://twitter.com/ThomasPaine5/status/784485843834576896Oct 07 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArnoldDuendis: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka malgnd by stupid,impatient ppl.wik never said oct 4 would be anything more than what it was.dummies cant read.Oct 07 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kempton276: @schestowitz @wikileaks @WLTaskForce - if you decided not to release the supposed "October surprise " then just say so! Getting impatient!Oct 07 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThomasPaine5: @Thomas_Drake1 @schestowitz @Sulliview And then their market cap dropped by $1 billion.Oct 07 21:16
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/xJwvJ41.jpgOct 07 21:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784482038409793537Oct 07 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel,Oct 07 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Android OEMs, and more https://t.co/ZFMNQukgGMOct 07 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (arstechnica.com)Oct 07 21:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Chatting with Google’s Hiroshi Lockheimer about Pixel, Android OEMs, and more | Ars TechnicaOct 07 21:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/784489455788953600Oct 07 21:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 25 Beta Will Be Released Next WeekOct 07 21:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/p3cU7jBg7F (www.phoronix.com)Oct 07 21:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 25 Beta Will Be Released Next Week - PhoronixOct 07 21:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Groundstain: @schestowitz @wikileaks I did not even think about donating to them.Thanks for the suggestion.Oct 07 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd Now Supports The RISC-V CPU ArchitectureOct 07 23:28
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8.1 Is Out, Stable Enough for...'Oct 07 23:28
MinceR>cancerd is not portable between cpu architecturesOct 07 23:29
MinceRwhat a piece of shitOct 07 23:29
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cubexyzok, new blog...Oct 08 00:05
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cubexyzHopefully it's somewhat helpfulOct 08 00:05
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schestowitz[03:04] <MinceR> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817186Oct 08 09:48
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schestowitzMinceR: 2012Oct 08 09:48
schestowitztalk about dead horse by now..Oct 08 09:48
oiaohmschestowitz: not exactly that bug is still alive in debian stable.   Reason for using backports systemd.Oct 08 10:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 Enlightenment's Ecore_Drm2 Library Is Working Out WellOct 08 12:02
TweetTuxMachines                 For Wayland Support https://t.co/XhvM1PpA1vOct 08 12:02
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/K3SARA/status/784709861871202304\Oct 08 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K3SARA: @schestowitz Google Chrome does the same when you sync your passwords.Oct 08 12:09
schestowitzYes, an even greater evilOct 08 12:09
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TweetTuxMachines                 "The Wine maintenance release 1.8.5 is now available."Oct 08 12:37
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MinceRschestowitz: still CLOSED WONTFIXOct 08 12:41
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oiaohmMinceR: there was a new version of that bug in 2014 that in fact got fixed.Oct 08 13:22
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oiaohmMinceR: turned out the reason why X11 had to be vt1 also linked to why systemd would lose serial terminals.Oct 08 13:25
oiaohmMinceR: do note I am running systemd my X11 is on vt7 I am using Nvidia drivers and I am also using LXDM and everything works perfectly these days.Oct 08 13:29
MinceRgood for youOct 08 13:30
MinceRuntil suddenly it isn'tOct 08 13:30
oiaohmMinceR: that particular bug is fixed.Oct 08 13:30
oiaohmMinceR: if you are running modern enough systemdOct 08 13:30
oiaohmMinceR: do not I am running testing debian.   Do the same thing on stable debian strange things do come out.Oct 08 13:31
oiaohmnot/noteOct 08 13:31
MinceRstrange things will happen to you tooOct 08 13:31
oiaohmThat is the thing since version 225 most of the strangeness stopped.Oct 08 13:34
oiaohmI am on 231 at moment.Oct 08 13:34
oiaohmOnly strangeness left is with some wm login out and finding session does not end in logind.   But that is mostly due to those wm in fact leaking processes on logout.Oct 08 13:35
MinceRthe design flaws are still thereOct 08 13:36
MinceRand the evil politics are also still thereOct 08 13:36
MinceRdebian is still a smoldering ruinOct 08 13:36
MinceRbut some people keep going "it hasn't blown up in my face yet, so it must be perfect"Oct 08 13:36
MinceRenjoy your reinvented windowsOct 08 13:36
MinceRwhat i don't get is that if systemd people love huge opaque hairballs with atrocious designs, why don't you just run windowsOct 08 13:37
oiaohmThat is the thing quite a few of the design flaws have in fact gone by by ok not all of them but they have been reducing.Oct 08 13:39
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/unary   http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1475593004-20161004after.pngOct 08 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - UnaryOct 08 13:39
MinceRso, what are the separated major components named? where are the stable APIs between them?Oct 08 13:39
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oiaohmMinceR: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/libsystemd/libsystemd.sym  stable API between them I guess you did not look into libsystemd .so file.  Yes its versioned.  221 is where you see the sd_bus appear.Oct 08 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemd/libsystemd.sym at master · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/puz81 ]Oct 08 13:46
MinceRso what if it's versioned? there are no minor versionsOct 08 13:49
MinceRthe whole thing churns like hellOct 08 13:49
oiaohmThat is not true.Oct 08 13:49
oiaohmMinceR: look again.Oct 08 13:49
MinceRit's amusing how you systemd people like to redefine terms like 'modular' and 'stable' to try to make this mess look goodOct 08 13:49
oiaohmNot at all.Oct 08 13:49
oiaohmStable ABI only starts appearing in systemd at the first version in libsystemdOct 08 13:50
MinceRhell, even 'free software' was effectively redefine to accommodate ratcrap's microsoftian tacticsOct 08 13:50
oiaohmMinceR: so all versions of systemd with version numbers less than 209 have no stable ABI.Oct 08 13:50
oiaohmThis is why I said reducing.Oct 08 13:52
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TweetTuxMachines                 Wine and Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/ZZVxt3PmG5Oct 08 13:53
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oiaohmMinceR: churns like hell applies to the earlier version of systemd.   Really its annoying how long it took systemd to get to building stable ABI.Oct 08 13:53
MinceRs/ine/ined/Oct 08 13:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 DebEX GNOME Live DVD Released with GNOME 3.22, MATE 1.16,Oct 08 13:53
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oiaohmMinceR: systemd bad ABI starts with a bad idea.   kdbus ie get kdbus into kernel after that stabilised the interfaces.   Not good logic.Oct 08 13:56
MinceRlet's not get started on bad ideas in how systemd started, that would last for a weekOct 08 13:56
oiaohmLike for sure you don't want to be using systemd lower than 221 the interconnects between stuff in those versions are too much cross fingers and pray.Oct 08 13:58
oiaohmBut there are a lot of different Linux LTS versions release with systemd less than 221Oct 08 13:59
oiaohmMinceR: also do note systemd has not double version any function so far because every time they have added a function to the ABI it has stayed absolutely the same.Oct 08 14:03
oiaohmMinceR: so systemd is getting something right these days.Oct 08 14:03
MinceRyet debian and even rHELL released with earlier versionsOct 08 14:04
MinceRsystemd "stable"Oct 08 14:04
MinceRsystemd will get something right when it gets shut down and replaced with GNU againOct 08 14:04
MinceRnot that it would restore my trust in the distros that touted it as "stable"Oct 08 14:05
oiaohmThe problem here is sysvinit and upstart before system are both broken.Oct 08 14:06
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MinceRthe problem here is that you're still pretending that systemd is just an init systemOct 08 14:06
MinceRand that sysvinit and upstart are just as broken as systemdOct 08 14:07
MinceRand that other init systems don't even existOct 08 14:07
oiaohmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I  this guy and others tried all the different init systems before going systemd or writing soletta because everything was technically broken.Oct 08 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 08 14:09
oiaohmWhat is the problem for years debian, redhat everyone just kept on using sysvinit or other imported init systems from Unix.   Linux kernel does a lot of things that is not Unix like at all.Oct 08 14:10
MinceRagain, implying that systemd is not brokenOct 08 14:11
MinceRdespite all evidenceOct 08 14:11
oiaohmsystemd turns out to be less broken.Oct 08 14:11
MinceRin your dreams, maybeOct 08 14:11
oiaohmNot in my dreams.Oct 08 14:11
MinceRyou never studied software engineering, have you?Oct 08 14:11
oiaohmIn fact I have.Oct 08 14:11
MinceRand you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc?Oct 08 14:12
XFaCEMinceR: like that minor ddos flaw that crashes a systemOct 08 14:12
XFaCE"minor"Oct 08 14:12
MinceRyeahOct 08 14:12
MinceRnot distributed thoughOct 08 14:12
MinceRif you mean the notify thingOct 08 14:12
XFaCEMinceR: in which a systemd developer demonstrated ignoranceOct 08 14:12
XFaCEsever ignoranceOct 08 14:12
MinceRall it takes is 1 unprivileged userOct 08 14:12
XFaCE*severeOct 08 14:12
oiaohmIn fact no.Oct 08 14:12
XFaCEyepOct 08 14:12
MinceR08 151201 < MinceR> and you blocked all reports of systemd failing to reap zombies, failing to boot, failing to shut down, etc?Oct 08 14:12
XFaCEbut it was fixed, so this "minor" flaw is acceptableOct 08 14:12
oiaohmThe reported dos required systemd built with debugging.Oct 08 14:12
MinceRyou know, things an init system is supposed to doOct 08 14:12
MinceRnot run a web server as root in pid1, and shit like thatOct 08 14:13
XFaCEhttps://www.agwa.name/blog/post/systemd_is_not_magic_security_dustOct 08 14:13
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oiaohmMinceR: systemd does not run a web server as pid1Oct 08 14:13
MinceRoh, it doesn't?Oct 08 14:13
oiaohmMinceR: never has.Oct 08 14:13
MinceRthat's a reliefOct 08 14:13
MinceRthen it just does a dozen other things as root in pid1Oct 08 14:13
MinceRlike parsing untrusted inputOct 08 14:14
oiaohmMinceR: systemd is a multi process thing if a web server is kicked up it is it own pid.Oct 08 14:14
MinceRand communicating on the networkOct 08 14:14
MinceRyeah, except when it is notOct 08 14:14
oiaohmNo communicating on network is not in pid.Oct 08 14:14
oiaohmopps pid1Oct 08 14:14
MinceRnot even the one that brings up a random container on your machine?Oct 08 14:14
oiaohmLots and lots of things people claim are in systemd pid1 are not.Oct 08 14:14
MinceR(because obviously an "init system" must do that too)Oct 08 14:14
MinceRlots of things still are in pid1, thoughOct 08 14:14
oiaohmMinceR: container importing that is no pid1 never has been.Oct 08 14:15
MinceRi suppose you're also ignoring the vulnerabilities its dns resolver adds to the systemOct 08 14:15
oiaohmMinceR: dns resolver of systemd is it own process and can be disabled and does support processing dnssec where glibc default does not.Oct 08 14:16
MinceRdoes dnssec help with its severe vulnerabilities?Oct 08 14:16
MinceRgood to hear there's one thing you can disable in that hairball thoughOct 08 14:16
oiaohmMinceR: dnssec makes it harder to spoof dns entries.Oct 08 14:16
MinceRunlike the part that fucks up your system logsOct 08 14:16
MinceRah, so you're ignoring the issuesOct 08 14:17
MinceRclassic cognitive dissonanceOct 08 14:17
oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC9mHfsC-I  < do watch and see how much of systemd he manages to turn off.Oct 08 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri: Demystifying systemd for embedded systems - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/put81 ]Oct 08 14:17
oiaohmMinceR: he even turns off to shock horror journald completely.Oct 08 14:18
XFaCEMinceR: " Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients.""Oct 08 14:18
MinceRwatch how much of systemd i can turn offOct 08 14:18
XFaCEMinceR: systemd-free.org :)Oct 08 14:18
oiaohmMinceR: turns out systemd will fall back to using old school logging if journald is removed.Oct 08 14:18
MinceR(hint: all of it)Oct 08 14:18
XFaCEMinceR: schestowitz https://davmac.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/why-do-we-keep-building-rotten-foundations/Oct 08 14:19
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XFaCE"The new release of Gtk is going to be fully parallel-installable with the old one. Gtk 4 and Gtk 3 will install alongside each other in exactly the same way as Gtk 2 and Gtk 3 — separate library name, separate pkg-config name, separate header directory. You will be able to have a system that has development headers and libraries installed for each of Gtk 2, 3, 4 and 5, if you want to do that."Oct 08 14:20
XFaCE"Meanwhile, Gtk 4.0 will not be the final stable API of what we would call “Gtk 4”. Each 6 months, the new release (Gtk 4.2, Gtk 4.4, Gtk 4.6) will break API and ABI vs. the release that came before it."Oct 08 14:20
XFaCE"We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system"Oct 08 14:20
MinceRi wonder if anyone other than gnome will want to use that crapOct 08 14:21
XFaCEMinceR: I wonder how long until they rename it libgnomeOct 08 14:21
MinceR:>Oct 08 14:22
XFaCEMinceR: Gnome runtime? XDOct 08 14:22
oiaohmXFaCE: the DBUS API for DNS resolution is due to the horrible reality DNS normal protocol is not design to cope with a case where you have DNS entries with and without DNSSEC at the same time.Oct 08 14:22
MinceRlendows internal library #4324Oct 08 14:22
oiaohmXFaCE: Ie no space in protocol to send mess yes we got X resolve but its insecure.Oct 08 14:23
MinceRoiaohm: yeah, that would be impossible to do with a function call to a libraryOct 08 14:23
MinceRit's not like you can just add parametersOct 08 14:23
MinceRor use structs to pass parameters or receive results inOct 08 14:23
XFaCEMinceR: Talking around I've learned that DBUS could have been implemented using the existing TIPC support in the Linux kernelOct 08 14:24
XFaCEand better tooOct 08 14:24
MinceRyeahOct 08 14:24
oiaohmMinceR: the library defines that need to be updated is for libc  posix standard and gnu c have defined the library DNS functions.Oct 08 14:25
MinceRtoo bad "better" is not how lendows people functionOct 08 14:25
XFaCEbut that would violate the "not invented here" doctrineOct 08 14:25
MinceRexactlyOct 08 14:25
MinceRoiaohm: yeah, it's impossible to add another library or another functionOct 08 14:25
MinceRwhich is why gtk also doesn't existOct 08 14:25
MinceRand neither does libsystemdOct 08 14:25
XFaCEor or lib.*Oct 08 14:26
XFaCE/lib.*Oct 08 14:26
oiaohmMinceR: then you will complain about applications have a solid systemd dependancy.Oct 08 14:27
MinceRnoOct 08 14:27
MinceRthis dbus fuckage is what generates a solid systemd dependencyOct 08 14:27
XFaCEof course, there isn't a huge incentive by the sysd people to have thoseOct 08 14:27
XFaCEcoughOct 08 14:27
XFaCE"We will, of course, bump the soname with each new incompatible release — you will be able to run Gtk 4.0 apps alongside Gtk 4.2 and 4.4 apps, but you won’t be able to build them on the same system"Oct 08 14:27
XFaCEoopsOct 08 14:28
MinceRbecause only systemd is stupid enough to use dbus for things that don't need dbus and are actually more fragile with dbusOct 08 14:28
XFaCE" Systemd is more of the same old, same old, but with vastly more code and complexity, an illusion of security features, and, most troubling, lock-in. (Strauss dismisses my lock-in concerns by dishonestly claiming that applications aren't encouraged to use their non-standard DBUS API for DNS resolution. Systemd's own documentation says "Usage of this API is generally recommended to clients."Oct 08 14:28
MinceRremember, dbus is "designed" to require a reboot to be restartedOct 08 14:28
MinceRand yet we're supposed to use that crap on servers and workstationsOct 08 14:28
oiaohmdbus was design to be posix netural in the first place leading to it not using stuff like TIPC.Oct 08 14:28
MinceRoiaohm: here's another thing that should have been obvious: it's possible to implement a DNS resolver library as an independent projectOct 08 14:29
MinceRit doesn't have to be part of systemdOct 08 14:29
XFaCEoiaohm: lol of courseOct 08 14:29
XFaCElet's not use an existing STANDARD protocolOct 08 14:29
oiaohmMinceR: the standard DNS resolver library format need to be updated for DNSSECOct 08 14:29
XFaCE"Dual BSD/GPL licensed code" - TIPC featureOct 08 14:29
oiaohmMinceR: that is the bit in the libc standard defines.Oct 08 14:29
MinceRoiaohm: a few moments ago you said it was impossibleOct 08 14:29
MinceRmake up your mind alreadyOct 08 14:29
oiaohmMinceR: currently impossible because those guys are stuck in a 3 year aguement so far about how in hell it should be implemented.Oct 08 14:30
MinceR"posix neutral" as in "If developers don't force themselves into the constraints of the POSIX API, they could develop some really innovative software, like systemd shows."Oct 08 14:30
MinceRoiaohm: well, if you don't want to understand what i'm telling you, then don'tOct 08 14:31
oiaohmMinceR: DNS resolver library standard has not been updated for DNSSEC.   systemd developers wasted 2 years attempting to get it updated before going the dbus route.Oct 08 14:32
oiaohmMinceR: lets just say that one problem leaded to a meg out of control cat fight in the old UNIX camp.Oct 08 14:33
XFaCEMinceR: Given the Gnome devs behaviour on Transmission, I'm gonna guess they went on the issue tracker and demanded rudely that their demands come firstOct 08 14:33
oiaohmNot everything systemd does is their fault some cases there are some really stupid things going on.Oct 08 14:35
MinceRoiaohm: yes, because coming up with a new dbus call is somehow more acceptable than coming up with a new library callOct 08 14:35
oiaohmMinceR: the arguement is currently 42 new library calls.Oct 08 14:35
MinceRyes, stupid things like letting poettering design anythingOct 08 14:35
oiaohmMinceR: so you cover all the random crap they are implementing.Oct 08 14:35
XFaCEMinceR: Coming up with dbus from scratch is more acceptable than using an existing standard protocolOct 08 14:35
XFaCEofcOct 08 14:36
MinceRXFaCE: gnome always comes first, apparentlyOct 08 14:36
oiaohmXFaCE: they tried the standard protocol way first only to find you have 42+ different ways to implement it all ready.Oct 08 14:36
MinceRit's more important than other people's servers or my workstationsOct 08 14:36
oiaohmXFaCE: all incompadible.Oct 08 14:36
MinceRand instead if picking one or coming up with their own, they made it depend on the toy known as dbusOct 08 14:37
MinceRlendows logicOct 08 14:37
oiaohmXFaCE: dbus way at least you can put a wrapper on it.Oct 08 14:37
MinceRyeah, it's impossible to wrap c functionsOct 08 14:37
XFaCEa turd wrapped in gold is still a turdOct 08 14:37
MinceRwhich is why nobody ever did itOct 08 14:37
oiaohmXFaCE: I am not saying it not a turd.Oct 08 14:37
MinceRyes you areOct 08 14:37
MinceRin so many wordsOct 08 14:37
oiaohmBut its a turd formed because of a very much bigger turd.Oct 08 14:37
MinceRin so many turdsOct 08 14:38
XFaCE"Sure Windows is poorly conceived, but that's only cause of OS/2!"Oct 08 14:38
oiaohmI really wish a proper dns resolver spec with dnssec mixed with non dnssec support would become agreed on then killing the systemd dbus stuff would be possible.Oct 08 14:39
XFaCEaha, the "Windows has games" argumentOct 08 14:40
MinceRyeah, because killing systemd lock-in is so easyOct 08 14:40
XFaCEMinceR: Yeah, it's not like there are developers intentionally crippling certain alternatives too?Oct 08 14:41
XFaCE*cough*Gentoo*cough*Oct 08 14:41
XFaCE*cough*OpenRC*cough*Oct 08 14:41
XFaCEthank goodness for RunitOct 08 14:42
MinceRyeah, nobody ever said things like "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."Oct 08 14:42
oiaohm soletta that is not systemd processes systemd unit files.Oct 08 14:42
MinceRso it's garbage, like systemdOct 08 14:42
MinceRdoes it also silently ignore changes in unit files if the changes are incorrect, like systemd does?Oct 08 14:42
MinceRalso, soletta is for IoT, which i don't care forOct 08 14:43
MinceRat least until IoT zombies start DDoSing stuff i useOct 08 14:43
XFaCEMinceR: or the next president declares a cyberwarOct 08 14:43
MinceRwhy declare wars anymore, it's so much easier to just do what you wantOct 08 14:43
oiaohmsoletta is designed for iot so as compact as possible.   Soletta does not ignore errors in unit files.Oct 08 14:43
MinceRignoring citizens and keeping everyone in the darkOct 08 14:43
oiaohmsystemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider.Oct 08 14:44
MinceRand soletta is modeled after systemd, making it the ideal target for IoT exploitsOct 08 14:44
MinceRyeah, you can replace it with a fork of itselfOct 08 14:44
MinceRor with a different implementation of the same braindead toxic designOct 08 14:44
oiaohmThere is no systemd code in solettaOct 08 14:44
XFaCEoh it's replaceable - but by something completely incompatibleOct 08 14:44
XFaCEwhich is a good thing fortunatelyOct 08 14:45
MinceRall i ever dreamed of doing is reimplementing some idiot's broken dbus APIs for the sake of compatibilityOct 08 14:45
MinceR(and remember, dbus is garbage)Oct 08 14:45
XFaCEMinceR: ItOct 08 14:45
XFaCEIt's like being a wine developerOct 08 14:45
MinceRexactlyOct 08 14:46
XFaCEminus any appeal whatsoeverOct 08 14:46
MinceRbut since ratcrap is not called microsoft, they get a free passOct 08 14:46
MinceReven from people who noticed the wrongdoings when m$ did themOct 08 14:46
MinceRi'm looking at you, Gratis Windows FoundationOct 08 14:46
oiaohmMinceR: soletta no dbus.Oct 08 14:46
XFaCEMinceR: nah, those same people are now clapping over new Microsoft and the Linux subsystemOct 08 14:46
MinceRyeahOct 08 14:47
XFaCE"new"Oct 08 14:47
MinceRoiaohm: so how will soletta replace systemd?Oct 08 14:47
MinceRoiaohm: how will it satisfy the demands of gnome looking for systemd-timedated and systemd-hostnamed?Oct 08 14:47
oiaohmI did not say soletta will in it current form be able to replace it all.   Compared to attempting to transfer shell scripts between init systems vs unit files it turns out unit files are fairly bug free.Oct 08 14:50
MinceR08 154407 < oiaohm> systemd might be a lot more replaceable than most consider.Oct 08 14:50
MinceRlooks like systemd is a lot less replaceable than you considered.Oct 08 14:50
XFaCEMinceR: nah, the uselessd developer was just lazyOct 08 14:50
MinceRoiaohm: have you ever seen bsd rc files?Oct 08 14:50
XFaCEamiriteOct 08 14:50
MinceRuselessd was just a pointless forkOct 08 14:50
MinceRremoving random bits from systemd won't fix the underlying severe design flawsOct 08 14:51
MinceRand neither will it fix the cult's behaviorOct 08 14:51
oiaohmMinceR: bsd rc files are a lot more common sense than sysvinit have been.Oct 08 14:51
XFaCEok, I agree oiaohm Oct 08 14:51
XFaCEthen why didn't we switch to OpenRC instead?Oct 08 14:51
MinceRoiaohm: see, debian's and redhat's rc files being complex is not sysvinit's faultOct 08 14:51
MinceRXFaCE: because we're pretending openrc doesn't existOct 08 14:52
XFaCEor runitOct 08 14:52
MinceRit's far more to justify forcing everyone to systemd if we pretend only sysvinit and systemd existOct 08 14:52
XFaCEit's sysVinit or nothingOct 08 14:52
XFaCENOTHINGOct 08 14:52
MinceRs/more/easier/Oct 08 14:52
oiaohmOpenrc even today still has more crashing faults than the first systemd.Oct 08 14:52
oiaohmSo basically not ready.Oct 08 14:52
MinceRgood, you can replace itOct 08 14:52
XFaCEactually, it's stable, unless you count post 0.13 versionsOct 08 14:52
MinceRsystemd is not ready eitherOct 08 14:52
MinceRdid that stop the cultists?Oct 08 14:52
XFaCEwhereby a systemd developer has basically been sabotaging itOct 08 14:53
MinceRwhen will they get rid of that asshole?Oct 08 14:53
XFaCEMinceR: hard to say, he's entrenched and knows how to play the bureaucratic gameOct 08 14:53
oiaohmMinceR: to be correct sysvinit is based on faultly logic that a process id will never be reused leading to hacks around that.Oct 08 14:53
XFaCEMinceR: fortunately forks are already in progress, and Funtoo exists as an alternativeOct 08 14:54
MinceRcan he also affect funtoo and other forks or only gentoo?Oct 08 14:54
XFaCEonly gentooOct 08 14:54
XFaCEfuntoo stopped at version 0.12Oct 08 14:54
MinceRoiaohm: still far less faulty in practice than systemd relying on a system they themselves admit does not work reliablyOct 08 14:54
XFaCEMinceR: in other words, they saw the writingOct 08 14:54
MinceRXFaCE: i seeOct 08 14:54
MinceRoiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown?Oct 08 14:55
MinceRs/sed/ses/Oct 08 14:55
XFaCEMinceR: even so, there's always runitOct 08 14:56
oiaohmoiaohm: i take it you like having your processed being immediately SIGKILLed on shutdown? that was fixed in 220Oct 08 14:56
XFaCEVoid Linux uses itOct 08 14:56
MinceRthat's greatOct 08 14:57
MinceRtoo bad enterprise clients got sold 219Oct 08 14:57
oiaohmMinceR: Ubuntu and redhat backported the patch.Oct 08 14:57
MinceReven in rHELL 7.2Oct 08 14:57
oiaohmIn updates.Oct 08 14:58
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MinceRah, so that's the new "stable" releaseOct 08 14:58
MinceRit doesn't work at all, but don't worry, we'll fix it eventuallyOct 08 14:58
XFaCEMinceR: like the GTK framework :POct 08 14:59
MinceRif your business critical stuff fails in the meantime, that's just too fucking badOct 08 14:59
XRevan86MinceR: Linux 3.8.0?Oct 08 14:59
MinceRXRevan86: systemd 219, rHELL 7.2Oct 08 14:59
XRevan864*Oct 08 14:59
MinceRXRevan86: i thought linux stopped making stable releases long agoOct 08 14:59
XRevan86https://kernel.org/Oct 08 15:00
XRevan86> stable: 4.8.1, 4.7.7Oct 08 15:00
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MinceRoiaohm: remember, sysvinit could shut down systems reliably, with SIGTERM, pause, SIGKILLOct 08 15:00
MinceRfor decades.Oct 08 15:00
MinceRbut i guess that's just not "modern" enoughOct 08 15:00
oiaohmMinceR: no sysvinit had the other problem where at times the system would not shutdown at all.Oct 08 15:00
MinceRyeah, systemd had that tooOct 08 15:01
oiaohmMinceR: they fixed that with over killing.Oct 08 15:01
XRevan86systemd has a watchdog which waits for a while, then shutdowns eventually.Oct 08 15:01
oiaohmsysvinit does not have a critical watchdog.Oct 08 15:01
XRevan86so the point of shutting down is always eventually achievedOct 08 15:01
MinceRyeah, just your stuff doesn't get to save its stateOct 08 15:02
MinceRlike shell historyOct 08 15:02
MinceRbut who needs thatOct 08 15:02
MinceRyanking the power cord out is the new "modern"Oct 08 15:02
oiaohmMinceR: yanking the power cord was kind of the jammed sysvinit solution.Oct 08 15:02
XRevan86if bash won't shutdown for 10 minutes, I doubt shell history will be lost because of the watchdog %)Oct 08 15:02
MinceRagain, if i wanted to run an OS that can't do anything reliably, i'd just run the winblows i was forced to buy along with my hardware.Oct 08 15:02
oiaohmMinceR: and hoping your discs were properly flushed.Oct 08 15:03
XFaCE[10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern"Oct 08 15:03
XFaCEMS DOS :POct 08 15:03
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MinceRor you could use magic sysrqOct 08 15:03
MinceRexcept...Oct 08 15:03
MinceRhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/12/21/1554227Oct 08 15:03
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cubexyzI don't remember seeing any problem with sysvinit on Xenix or LinuxOct 08 15:03
oiaohmMinceR: magic syqrg does not promise disc flushing either.Oct 08 15:03
XRevan86watchdog is per-serviceOct 08 15:03
XFaCE[10:02:20]<MinceR> yanking the power cord out is the new "modern"Oct 08 15:04
MinceRoiaohm: at least it lets you tell the system to sync everything and unmount everythingOct 08 15:04
XFaCEthe new modern is installing stuff in virtual containers and when it breaks just rebooting or replacing said VMOct 08 15:04
XFaCEwho care about long-term reliabilityOct 08 15:04
MinceRi doOct 08 15:04
MinceRbut then, i'm not running lendowsOct 08 15:04
oiaohmcubexyz: you need some badly behaved items loaded to have shutdown issues on Xenix but it possible.Oct 08 15:04
MinceRand i don't buy into the "VMs will fix all our problems" religion eitherOct 08 15:04
MinceRyeah, badly behaved items do that on linux too -- like systemdOct 08 15:05
XFaCEMinceR: it won't fix them, but it will obfuscate around them nicelyOct 08 15:05
MinceR:)Oct 08 15:06
oiaohmcubexyz: I locked a Xenix up with a 2 scripts where every time one died the other started a new copy.Oct 08 15:06
MinceRand add some more problemsOct 08 15:06
MinceRand help hw salesOct 08 15:06
cubexyzoiaohm, which version of Xenix? Or was it Unix SysV?Oct 08 15:06
cubexyzbtw I've been running Linux Sysvinit (FC1) since 2004Oct 08 15:07
oiaohmcubexyz: System V.2.3.4  the 1991 of XenixOct 08 15:08
cubexyzif you really don't like sysvinit why not run one of the BSDs?Oct 08 15:08
cubexyzfor server...Oct 08 15:08
XRevan86daemontools is the worstOct 08 15:09
MinceRhe'd rather run windowsOct 08 15:09
MinceRbut can only afford the closest gratis thing, systemdOct 08 15:09
oiaohmMinceR: I hate windows way more than I hate sysvinit.Oct 08 15:10
cubexyzI have a server that does automatic shutdowns when the UPS loses powerOct 08 15:10
cubexyzno problems...Oct 08 15:10
MinceRoiaohm: but you like svchost, don't you?Oct 08 15:10
cubexyzand I have 12 years of experience with itOct 08 15:10
oiaohmMinceR: svchost great way to hide a virus.Oct 08 15:10
MinceRcubexyz: i had that too, until the machine decided it won't talk to my ups anymoreOct 08 15:10
MinceRoiaohm: exactlyOct 08 15:10
MinceRoiaohm: same thing is true for systemdOct 08 15:10
oiaohmNo systemd in fact has proper reporting of what is contained.Oct 08 15:11
MinceRsureOct 08 15:11
oiaohmsvchost you can have it completely lie.Oct 08 15:11
MinceRdid it properly report all the unchecked null dereferences too?Oct 08 15:11
cubexyzMinceR, I assume you were using apcupsd?Oct 08 15:11
oiaohmWindows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call.Oct 08 15:11
MinceRi'm using nutOct 08 15:11
MinceRi have an eaton upsOct 08 15:12
cubexyzyou can reload the USB sub-system I think'Oct 08 15:12
cubexyzif it stops communicatingOct 08 15:12
MinceRi guess the next reboot will fix it...Oct 08 15:12
MinceReven lsusb hangsOct 08 15:12
MinceRand i can't even kill it with ^COct 08 15:12
MinceR08 161155 < oiaohm> Windows 7 svchost before updates has a fun unchecked null call.Oct 08 15:13
MinceRof course it didOct 08 15:13
MinceRthey come from the same cultureOct 08 15:13
MinceRand have the same underlying ideaOct 08 15:14
cubexyzI would try reloading usb-storage, but maybe your system is differentOct 08 15:14
oiaohmdaemontools + sysvinit was a great way to let lose hell.Oct 08 15:14
cubexyzrmmod usb-storage then insmod usb-storage fixed some issues for meOct 08 15:14
MinceRif i ping timeout, it didn't :>Oct 08 15:14
cubexyzalso some external usb hard drives should be avoidedOct 08 15:15
XFaCEcubexyz: examples?Oct 08 15:15
MinceRnope, not even loaded hereOct 08 15:15
MinceRthere are no usb devices plugged into the server other than the upsOct 08 15:15
oiaohmMinceR: no systemd is more GNU culture of badly copy Unix world stuff.   I have told you before the unix world stuff they were attempting to copy.Oct 08 15:15
cubexyzXFaCE, any really el cheapo chinese onesOct 08 15:15
MinceRoiaohm: which unix world stuff does stuffing several unrelated services in the same process?Oct 08 15:15
cubexyzI think WD one of the better onesOct 08 15:16
oiaohmMinceR: X11Oct 08 15:16
MinceRoiaohm: show me a windowing system that is more modular than X11.Oct 08 15:16
cubexyzanyways my only shutdowns have happened when the utility power fails for longer periods of timeOct 08 15:17
oiaohmMinceR: there are so many windows systems truly more modular not bound to a single event loop for decades.Oct 08 15:17
cubexyzalso I made some reliability improvements to FC1 and I understand it pretty well Oct 08 15:18
MinceRoiaohm: which of them do properly separate out the window manager and the widget toolkit?Oct 08 15:18
cubexyzMinceR, your Linux is probably significantly different from my FC1 serverOct 08 15:18
MinceRyeahOct 08 15:18
cubexyza lot of stuff has changed since thenOct 08 15:18
oiaohmMinceR: system in fact fires off a lot of processes.   So does not really stuff unrelated stuff into the same process.  Oct 08 15:19
MinceRoiaohm: non sequiturOct 08 15:19
oiaohmMinceR: X11 core server until recently had input and 2d rendering in the same thread.   This is why when X11 server starts rendering hard input would freese.Oct 08 15:19
MinceRi'm pretty sure the job of init, rc, udev, [x]inetd, crond and atd are still in pid1Oct 08 15:19
oiaohmMinceR: only one out if that list is in fact in systemd pid1.Oct 08 15:20
MinceRoiaohm: other windowing systems tend to build the window manager and the widget toolkit into the display server. far less modular, far less flexible.Oct 08 15:20
MinceRoiaohm: [citation needed]Oct 08 15:20
oiaohmMinceR: lot of those things are fired off by the PID1 but not in the PID1.Oct 08 15:21
MinceRoiaohm: [citation needed]Oct 08 15:21
oiaohmsystemd-udevd.service  << this is because udevd is a service in it own right with its own pid.Oct 08 15:22
MinceRright, so that's udevOct 08 15:22
MinceRwhat about the others?Oct 08 15:22
cubexyzxchat and X itself used the most CPU timeOct 08 15:22
cubexyznot httpd Oct 08 15:22
cubexyzsignificantly more Oct 08 15:22
oiaohmMinceR: you will find inetd, crond and atd stuff are all services under systemd in own right.Oct 08 15:23
MinceRwhat are they called?Oct 08 15:23
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MinceRnot only did systemd take over the job of crond, it even broke crond with cgroups cargo cultingOct 08 15:27
cubexyzif you really wanted to be strict you could run your server without X runningOct 08 15:28
cubexyzoiaohm, did your 1991 Xenix have internet running? Oct 08 15:29
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/uh2-2.jpgOct 08 15:29
cubexyzwow, 2.3.4 is pretty oldOct 08 15:30
cubexyzdon't think my Xenix ever had TCP/IP Oct 08 15:30
oiaohmcubexyz: Xenix was something stand alone monoring stuff.Oct 08 15:31
cubexyzI think sysv stuff started around 1983 so it's been around for a long timeOct 08 15:33
cubexyzsolaris was a SVR4 derivative Oct 08 15:34
cubexyzSun went from BSD derived to SVR4 derivedOct 08 15:35
cubexyzI sure don't remember people talking about sysvinit problems back thenOct 08 15:36
cubexyzheck, a driver bug could bring down the system in any caseOct 08 15:38
cubexyzor resource exhaustionOct 08 15:39
cubexyzor hardware failureOct 08 15:39
oiaohmcubexyz: resource exhaustion happened lot when restarting services losing still running processes.Oct 08 15:39
oiaohmLets just say sysvinit failure to track was not being linked back to sysvinit.   Instead lets attempt to replace X service with Y service and hope it don't leak.Oct 08 15:40
cubexyzdoesn't the OOM killer supposed to fix that in Linux?Oct 08 15:40
oiaohmOOM killer can still cause data loss.Oct 08 15:41
cubexyztrueOct 08 15:41
cubexyzwell you need a good operator watching thingsOct 08 15:41
oiaohmSo you don't want to be hitting resourse exhaustion becuase you have been restarting a service and it has not been restarting cleanly.Oct 08 15:41
oiaohmWe have need something better than sysvinit for some time.Oct 08 15:42
oiaohmcubexyz: also remember you don't want to be paying a operator to watch stuff 24/7.   This is where being able to set proper limits on services come in.Oct 08 15:43
oiaohmcubexyz: catch you around.Oct 08 15:44
cubexyzlater :)Oct 08 15:44
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cubexyznowadays the Linux processes have /proc/some_PID/oom_scoreOct 08 15:46
cubexyzanyways, I know how FC1 does things so I'm usually not surprisedOct 08 15:47
cubexyzhackers are always trying new tricks thoughOct 08 15:47
cubexyzI think the IBM mainframes do a better job of watchdogging thingsOct 08 15:49
cubexyzfor one thing.. the hardware is a lot more redundantOct 08 15:51
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cubexyzalso a mainframe probably does have a 24/7 operator Oct 08 15:52
cubexyzwe even did for PDP-10sOct 08 15:52
cubexyzthe mainframe OS might even be _smaller_ than the PC versionOct 08 15:53
cubexyzthere's no GUI stuff in thereOct 08 15:53
cubexyzI should try running linux on S390 sometimeOct 08 16:00
cubexyzthere's a couple of things I'm curious aboutOct 08 16:00
cubexyzthere's even a Gentoo for IBM Z systemsOct 08 16:01
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XFaCEcubexyz: I have used Z/OS beforeOct 08 16:10
XFaCEthe GUI is... refreshing primitive :POct 08 16:10
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MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dd1-4.jpgOct 08 16:28
MinceR>Please do not swallow bags of unpopped popcorn before dying, you are giving our cremation technicians nervous tics!Oct 08 16:30
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MinceRhttp://www.vhemt.org/nofuture.jpgOct 08 17:59
cubexyz'07 but we're still around... ;)Oct 08 18:05
cubexyzno mad max yetOct 08 18:06
cubexyzBizarro reminds me of the Far Side a bitOct 08 18:11
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe-l%27%C5%93ilOct 08 18:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/784805517122236416Oct 08 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz You mean you'd like to be buried at sea or actually be minced & sold as feed to a salmon waterfarm? ;-)Oct 08 18:22
schestowitzThe latter would profit for me, so no, the formerOct 08 18:22
schestowitzThe latter would profit from me, so no, the formerOct 08 18:22
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/a/YUNgzOct 08 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super accurated cosplays you can't believe they could exist. - Album on ImgurOct 08 19:27
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/ysCcDnSOct 08 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My phone wanted to make a call and connect to the mall wifi at the same time on the same screen. - ImgurOct 08 21:09
cubexyzah a pity, discovered another part of Unix v5 is missing: splineOct 08 21:25
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cubexyzwow, did Unix v5 cc use extern or notOct 08 21:27
cubexyzok, yes it did... so there's a change that the v5 version of cc could compile Unix v6 spline.cOct 08 21:29
cubexyzok, this is one complex chunk of codeOct 08 21:34
cubexyzif this works, it will be the most complex program recompiled for v5Oct 08 21:35
cubexyzv6 and v5 spline.c could be the same, I don't have any way of knowingOct 08 21:35
cubexyzbahOct 08 21:41
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Nothing seems to be raising Lenovo's stock price for very long.Oct 08 22:36
DaemonFCThe Linux news goes out, it drops from $5.24 HKD to $5.09. They announce the Motorola layoffs, it bounces back for a few days, then goes back down. They announce they're acquiring Fujitsu's PC business, same thing.Oct 08 22:37
DaemonFCIt seems to be finding its support around 5.14-5.20 HKDOct 08 22:37
DaemonFChttp://thenextweb.com/mobile/2016/10/04/lenovo-wont-make-windows-10-phones-due-microsofts-commitment-issues/Oct 08 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo won't make Windows 10 phones due to Microsoft's commitment issuesOct 08 22:38
DaemonFCSomeone asked why it would be an issue since "Windows 10 is the same OS on every device.".Oct 08 22:39
DaemonFCNot true. Those phones require customization by the OEM.Oct 08 22:39
MinceRthere's no customization that would make Backdoors10 not shitOct 08 22:39
DaemonFCMinceR, I mean to get it running on each device.Oct 08 22:40
MinceRmy condolencesOct 08 22:40
DaemonFCThere's a reason they can't offer hundreds of phones running Windows 10. They would run into the same problem you get with Android.Oct 08 22:40
MinceRwhich "problem", diversity?Oct 08 22:41
DaemonFCApple has to support a handful of phones. Android OEMs have to customize the firmware for each device.Oct 08 22:41
MinceRor that there are few devices that aren't shit?Oct 08 22:41
MinceRyeah, all of crApple's devices are garbageOct 08 22:41
MinceRand so is the OS running on themOct 08 22:41
DaemonFCIntel had a plan to make phones where the same Android image would run on all of them.Oct 08 22:41
DaemonFCThey backed out though, so we have to deal with this ARM mess some more.Oct 08 22:42
MinceRah, ARM being a total mess is the problemOct 08 22:42
DaemonFCThe SoCs are all very different.Oct 08 22:43
DaemonFCI'd like to have Intel smartphones. It would help the OEMs keep Android more current.Oct 08 22:44
DaemonFCToo much porting work. OEMs already don't want to support their older hardware. This just gives them something else to blame.Oct 08 22:46
MinceRtoo bad intel sucks at power consumptionOct 08 22:46
DaemonFCIt's not as bad as it used to be. There were a ton of unbelievably shitty Android phones running Gingerbread that went on for way too long.Oct 08 22:47
DaemonFCMinceR, Not their current stuff.Oct 08 22:47
MinceRso why isn't it in phones?Oct 08 22:47
DaemonFCI'm not entirely certain.Oct 08 22:48
DaemonFCA lot of these flagship phones running ARM SoCs get shit battery life.Oct 08 22:48
DaemonFCLike the Galaxy S6.Oct 08 22:48
MinceRit seems samsung got rid of the people who knew how to design phonesOct 08 22:49
DaemonFCThere have been numerous software updates for my phone, it still goes 100-0 in like 5-6 hours of actual use.Oct 08 22:49
DaemonFCThis is one of the worst phones I have ever owned.Oct 08 22:49
MinceRthey used to make a galaxy s5 which had a removable battery, memory card slot and was waterproofOct 08 22:49
MinceRnow all they make are hypePhone-imitating timebombsOct 08 22:50
DaemonFCJohn's S6 Edge cracked for no reason.Oct 08 22:50
DaemonFCIt was fine when he put it on the table and the next morning, the screen was cracked.Oct 08 22:50
MinceRthough maybe if they looked hard, they could find material for backplates that are even less fit for the purposeOct 08 22:50
MinceRsay, uraniumOct 08 22:50
MinceRor mercuryOct 08 22:50
DaemonFCMinceR, I'm trading in my S6 as soon as I can.Oct 08 22:50
DaemonFCIt's a lease, so I'm going to drop by Best Buy and turn it in the day the lease expires.Oct 08 22:51
DaemonFCI have about 10 months to go.Oct 08 22:51
DaemonFCThe next phone must have Micro SD slot, removable battery, and stock Android without bloatware.Oct 08 22:51
MinceRdo such phones even exist?Oct 08 22:52
DaemonFCMinceR, 5-6 hours is unacceptable, but it was worse.Oct 08 22:52
DaemonFCSprint and Samsung packed my phone full of battery killing crapware.Oct 08 22:52
DaemonFCOnedrive drains your power even if you never set up an account.Oct 08 22:52
DaemonFCIt keeps heckling you until you disable it.Oct 08 22:52
MinceRcan you use unlocked phones in the usa?Oct 08 22:53
DaemonFCAnd Sprint loaded Lookout, a horrible antivirus program that wastes power scanning every file and app.Oct 08 22:53
DaemonFCMinceR, You can, if you want to buy it for full price.Oct 08 22:53
DaemonFCSprint gave me a package deal that includes unlimited LTE data and unlimited calls and texts, and the phone is basically waived from the price of the plan.Oct 08 22:54
MinceRthat would get rid of the carrier's bloatwareOct 08 22:54
DaemonFCThey were really pushing the lease hard so that's why I got the S6. It was basically that or an iPhone.Oct 08 22:54
MinceRewOct 08 22:54
DaemonFCMinceR, I've been working around the shit battery life on the S6 by carrying a power bank around with me.Oct 08 22:55
MinceRmaybe they could try making phone casings out of radioactive gallium isotopesOct 08 22:56
DaemonFCSamsung phones have really been going downhill since the S6 came out.Oct 08 22:56
MinceRand beforeOct 08 22:57
cubexyzbackdoors10 not shit == impossibleOct 08 23:11
DaemonFChttps://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/55h6ty/pc_qont_boots_to_windows/Oct 08 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | PC qont boots to windows... : LenovoOct 08 23:11
DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point 4 days ago Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCFailure is not an option....It's built-in to every LOL NO! VO sold.Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFC"Help us conserve resources by minimizing the number of recovery-media kits that you request from Lenovo."Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFC[...]Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCSorry, your machine is not eligible due to the following reason:Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCLenovo YOGA 900-13ISK2Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCError:This is not a valid Serial Number for Recovery Media Program.Oct 08 23:12
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DaemonFC[–]PlsAnswer19836 [S] 1 point 1 day ago Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCWhat do you mean?Oct 08 23:12
MinceRhttp://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1054.htmlOct 08 23:12
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DaemonFC[–]BaronHK 1 point just now Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCI mean that they won't give you a recovery stick in case Windows gets hosed and your OneKey Recovery doesn't work.Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCThat basically guarantees that eventually, many people will have to ship their laptop to Lenovo and hope they get it back sometime before the sun flash boils the oceans and then engulfs the inner planets. :)Oct 08 23:12
cubexyzyeah I think I'll give the Yoga a missOct 08 23:12
cubexyzjust a hunchOct 08 23:12
DaemonFCThe hardware is pretty nice.Oct 08 23:12
DaemonFCIt's this damned BIOS that ruins it.Oct 08 23:13
MinceRi'll keep staying away from non-thinkpad lenovosOct 08 23:13
DaemonFCYou can't do anything except use Windows 10 with it.Oct 08 23:13
MinceRas i always did :>Oct 08 23:13
cubexyzand R30's :)Oct 08 23:13
cubexyzyou probably won't like those Oct 08 23:13
MinceRwhat are they like?Oct 08 23:14
cubexyzhard to fix, and they overheatOct 08 23:14
MinceRicOct 08 23:14
DaemonFCSo there's this company called AdReclaim that stuffs pages full of Clickbait "Taboola" style ads and pop-unders, but only if the user has ad blocking.Oct 08 23:14
DaemonFCIt exploits a bug in Chrome that stops content blockers from blocking websockets requests.Oct 08 23:15
DaemonFCThe company claims it can evade 100% of ad blockers, but that only seems to be the case in Chrome.Oct 08 23:15
DaemonFCIn Firefox, their method doesn't work. In Edge, their method doesn't work. In Internet Explorer with TPL ad blocking lists, their method doesn't work. In Opera with the built-in ad blocker, their method doesn't work.Oct 08 23:16
DaemonFCTwo-thirds of desktop web browser users now use Chrome, so maybe they figure that's good enough.Oct 08 23:16
DaemonFCTheir business will die off if Google ever decides to patch Chrome.Oct 08 23:16
DaemonFCMaybe they just plan to make as much money as they can until Google gets around to that.Oct 08 23:17
DaemonFCOr if enough sites deploy AdReclaim that people flood back to Firefox to get away from it.Oct 08 23:18
DaemonFCAdblock Plus still hasn't bothered to solve the Facebook issue. ublock-origin did.Oct 08 23:19
DaemonFCI guess ABP is too busy working on effectively becoming adware to worry about this.Oct 08 23:19
DaemonFCMinceR, I've been working on energy efficiency for a while now.Oct 08 23:20
DaemonFCBetween John and me, we're using about 4 kWh per day.Oct 08 23:20
DaemonFCThat's down from about 7 or 8. That's base load, not counting air conditioning, which we don't need for the better part of 9 months out of the year in Illinois.Oct 08 23:21
DaemonFCThe landlords run a boiler system for heat.Oct 08 23:21
DaemonFCIllinois will probably be facing an energy crisis within the next five years.Oct 08 23:22
DaemonFCComEd is threatening to shut down two nuclear power plants unless the state gives them a billion dollars and the state doesn't have a billion dollars because it's Illinois.Oct 08 23:23
DaemonFCSo we'll move from being a net exporter of power to a net importer of power.Oct 08 23:23
DaemonFCThe people running this state are idiots.Oct 08 23:24
DaemonFCThey've been asking voters to vote no on the transportation lockbox constitutional amendment (after they passed it and got it on the ballot to keep people from going door to door gathering support through a citizen initiative).Oct 08 23:25
DaemonFCThey're yanking a billion dollars a year from transportation taxes and spending it on other things, which is extremely stupid.Oct 08 23:25
DaemonFCWe get federal matching funds on almost all of the transportation projects that aren't being funded, so the state loses a billion a year from the federal government.Oct 08 23:26
DaemonFCSo I voted yes on the lockbox.Oct 08 23:26
DaemonFCI would have voted to stop them from raiding other things, if I could.Oct 08 23:26
DaemonFCAs far as the Democrats are concerned, the entire state should be sacrificed on the altar of unfunded teacher pensions.Oct 08 23:27

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