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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/696193507094966272Feb 07 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: cc:@schestowitz https://t.co/8Ym0tjMdrNFeb 07 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drvandanashiva: #Bharat #Biotech #Gates #funded #Indian Co has #ZIKAvirus #vaccine wks after outbreak https://t.co/54jimxqsuY https://t.co/EFa3u2wLhjFeb 07 00:39
msb_!google iphone error-53Feb 07 00:41
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Apple says the iPhone-breaking Error 53 is a security measure | http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/05/apple-iphone-error-53/Feb 07 00:41
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 'Error 53' fury mounts as Apple software update threatens to kill your ... | http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/05/error-53-apple-iphone-software-update-handset-worthless-third-party-repairFeb 07 00:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Apple says iPhone 'Error 53' is to protect customers' security ... | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/06/apple-says-iphone-error-53-is-to-protect-customers-securityFeb 07 00:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - What is Error 53 and why did it kill my iPhone? - The Daily Dot | http://www.dailydot.com/technology/what-is-error-53-iphone/Feb 07 00:41
msb_http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/06/apple-says-iphone-error-53-is-to-protect-customers-securityFeb 07 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Apple says iPhone 'Error 53' is to protect customers' security | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/ohnh7 ]Feb 07 00:41
msb_"By concealing the feature prior to sales, and only even revealing it after being repeatedly pressured over it, Apple turned what could have been a feature into a landmine.”Feb 07 00:42
msb_Amazingly evilFeb 07 00:44
msb_They're going to have to fix all those dead phones for free, and send out a software update to the live ones to prevent the attack from triggering.  Otherwise nobody will ever buy one of their phones again.Feb 07 00:47
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msb_This must be why Max Keiser referred in his most recent show to "a rotten apple".  But he didn't get around to discussing it.Feb 07 00:48
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msb_" thousands of users whose phones have been repaired ...   As third-party hardware has been installed on their devices, Apple deems its terms and conditions to have been broken and forced many owners to contribute towards the cost of a new phone."Feb 07 00:59
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msb_European women no longer need fear being singled out for sexual attack by islamic immigrants.  https://www.rt.com/news/331594-iraqi-refugee-raped-boy/Feb 07 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | Iraqi refugee raped 10yo boy in Austria, says it was ‘sexual emergency’ — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/ohnka ]Feb 07 01:22
msb_https://www.rt.com/news/328753-norway-toddler-raped-refugee/Feb 07 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | 3yo boy allegedly ‘gang raped’ at Norwegian refugee center — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/ohnkd ]Feb 07 01:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware Live Edition – on its way to 1.0?Feb 07 01:59
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/VbwA9xT0sG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 01:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware Live Edition – on its way to 1.0? | Tux MachinesFeb 07 01:59
schestowitz" Susan Rice said the launch represented 'serious threats to our interests"Feb 07 02:35
schestowitz" threats to our interests"Feb 07 02:35
schestowitznot safetyFeb 07 02:35
schestowitzhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435560/North-Korea-launches-long-range-rocket-Okinawa-Japan-vows-action-against-Kim-Jong-s-rogue-state.htmlFeb 07 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | North Korea launches long-range rocket over Japan seen as covert missile test | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/ohnpj ]Feb 07 02:35
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schestowitz"Feb 07 02:41
schestowitzNorth Korea previously tested nuclear explosive devices in 2006, 2009 and 2013, and claimed it successfully delivered a satellite into orbit in December 2012, the last time it launched a long-range rocket. Feb 07 02:41
schestowitzThe launch will amplify calls by the U.S. and South Korea for more stringent trade and financial sanctions against North Korea. Feb 07 02:41
schestowitzHowever, critics argue that economic sanctions have little impact on Pyongyang because it does very little trade with the outside world. Feb 07 02:41
schestowitzMillions of people live in poverty in North Korea and it has been argued that further sanctions only make this situation worse, Feb 07 02:41
schestowitzChina, North Korea's only major ally, is unlikely to support stronger punishment against Pyongyang over fears of provoking a regime collapse, and potentially a stream of refugees across the border, analysts say. Feb 07 02:41
schestowitzChina is also responsible for about 70 percent of the North's trade volume, according to South Korean estimates.Feb 07 02:42
schestowitz"Feb 07 02:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/696193507094966272Feb 07 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: cc:@schestowitz https://t.co/8Ym0tjMdrNFeb 07 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drvandanashiva: #Bharat #Biotech #Gates #funded #Indian Co has #ZIKAvirus #vaccine wks after outbreak https://t.co/54jimxqsuY https://t.co/EFa3u2wLhjFeb 07 02:42
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msb_The US murdered 30% of the North Korean population, many by burning to death with napalm, during the Korean War, which the US provoked.  Further torture of these people by the US does not seem to be a way to get a good result.Feb 07 03:25
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msb_History is important.  Even if we don't remember, the North Koreans -- human beings just like us -- do remember.  Imagine if you and everyone you know had a parent or grandparent who was tortured to death in the most painful possible way.  _They_ remember!Feb 07 03:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/696252831569993728Feb 07 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: volunteers and crowdsourcing for "harnessing human intelligence" new definition of "useful idiots"? cc/@schestowitz https://t.co/sycsJJ1PEsFeb 07 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: volunteers and crowdsourcing for "harnessing human intelligence" new definition of "useful idiots"? cc/@schestowitz https://t.co/sycsJJ1PEsFeb 07 03:50
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MinceRhttps://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12360121_540142766143420_3124045675863660772_n.jpg?oh=a12a5cd5389e232a16578115d2bcc33d&oe=576F34A0Feb 07 04:27
MinceRoh, it was from here, nvm :)Feb 07 04:27
MinceRas for crApple, the one person i've read about who had their crap bricked was allegedly outraged but immediately rewarded crApple by buying another hypePhoneFeb 07 04:28
MinceRpeople are dangerously stupid.Feb 07 04:28
MinceRand now msb_ apologizes for north koreaFeb 07 04:28
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msb_I told the truth about North Korea.  South Korea was controlled by Syngman Rhee, a brutal and corrupt dictator who imprisoned, tortured and murdered those who opposed him, which included many students.  Of course the US supported him.Feb 07 05:36
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MinceRnext: msb_ voices his support for hitler and explains how everything bad he did was actually the usa's faultFeb 07 05:42
msb_As usual, the US slaughtered the North Koreans because they wanted socialism, which threatened the profits of wealthy capitalists, which they obtained at the expense of workers' wages.Feb 07 05:43
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MinceRso juche is "socialism" too. good to know.Feb 07 05:44
msb_As usual MinceR lies about me.  Of course I have never supported or apologized for Hitler.  But MinceR lies and lies.Feb 07 05:44
MinceRas usual, msb_ fails at reading comprehensionFeb 07 05:44
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msb_MinceR's lies are easy to comprehend.  But they are lies.Feb 07 05:47
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msb_The Guardian article I cited says that " thousands of iPhone 6 users have had their devices, which cost hundreds of pounds, left useless after encountering the error message."Feb 07 06:02
MinceRif humans' evolutionary advantage is supposed to be their mind, where does all this lead?Feb 07 06:03
msb_Hopefully it leads to a huge class-action lawsuit that demands repairs and punitive damages from Apple.Feb 07 06:05
MinceRseems more likely it leads to extinctionFeb 07 06:07
msb_The ultra-wealthy rulers of the US (through its corrupt electoral system) created the Mujahideen, which became Al-Qaeda and ISIL, which is murdering its way through the Middle East.  The US destr0yed the nations of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria in order to allow ISIL to do so, and has given ISIL lots of weapons (as have Saudi Arabia and Turkey).  The US set up a Nazi government in Ukraine in order to harass Russia.  Feb 07 06:13
msb_All this may lead to a nuclear war and the extinction of humanity.  But hopefully factual information will circulate around the Internet and the US will be globally censured for its actions, and will pull back without murdering the World.Feb 07 06:15
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dawnbazely/status/696284468550725632Feb 07 11:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dawnbazely: Twitter CEO @Jack Dorsey sort of denies timeline changes, talks #RIPTwitter https://t.co/RChbjbH4dJ cc @schestowitz https://t.co/hlHnPlN1lvFeb 07 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mashable.com | Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey denies timeline changes (sort of), talks #RIPTwitterFeb 07 11:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dawnbazely: Twitter CEO @Jack Dorsey sort of denies timeline changes, talks #RIPTwitter https://t.co/RChbjbH4dJ cc @schestowitz https://t.co/hlHnPlN1lvFeb 07 11:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dawnbazely/status/696284468550725632Feb 07 11:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Interview Questions - Riccardo IaconelliFeb 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Kc5AW6a0c4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 14:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Interview Questions - Riccardo Iaconelli | Tux MachinesFeb 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five reasons I roll with Arch Linux, and whyFeb 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines                 you should too https://t.co/UBpcXNJ63SFeb 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpllFeb 07 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Five reasons I roll with Arch Linux, and why you should too | Tux MachinesFeb 07 14:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today and Yesterday in TechrightsFeb 07 14:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/75ys2Pp8gE (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 14:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 07 14:43
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/75ys2Pp8gE'Feb 07 14:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux gaming rising: 35 great games for SteamFeb 07 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Machines and Linux https://t.co/WsZRRprGaCFeb 07 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.com)Feb 07 15:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | The best Linux games: 35 great PC games for Linux and SteamOSFeb 07 15:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Android Studio 2.0 Beta Launches WithFeb 07 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Multi-Touch Support, Improved Indexing And MoreFeb 07 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IMemAUPKtC (www.techtimes.com)Feb 07 15:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Google Android Studio 2.0 Beta Launches With Multi-Touch Support, Improved Indexing And More [Video] : PERSONAL TECH : Tech TimesFeb 07 15:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I'm slowly planning the redesign of theFeb 07 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 cluster which powers the Debian AdministrationFeb 07 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 website." https://t.co/gaTfge5z41Feb 07 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.steve.org.uk)Feb 07 15:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.org.uk | Redesigning my clustered websiteFeb 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Hangouts now offers peer-to-peer onFeb 07 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Android https://t.co/7bNufGZDUJFeb 07 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.slashgear.com) but #nsa #prism behind yourFeb 07 15:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Google Hangouts now offers peer-to-peer on Android - SlashGearFeb 07 15:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vulnerability in Font Processing LibraryFeb 07 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Affects Linux, OpenOffice, FirefoxFeb 07 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/S5F2vE2lLq (news.softpedia.com)Feb 07 15:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vulnerability in Font Processing Library Affects Linux, OpenOffice, FirefoxFeb 07 15:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ‘White hat’ then, Red Hat nowFeb 07 15:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.manilatimes.net | ‘White hat’ then, Red Hat now | The Manila Times OnlineFeb 07 15:05
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696424021303435269Feb 07 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz As has been covered in the fora previously, we do not explicitly block tor. And, if you're logged in it's quite the opposite.Feb 07 15:11
schestowitzThey block tor, basically..Feb 07 15:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696425915170103300Feb 07 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz There are a few threads discussing the topic if interested. If you're logged in we make an explicit effort to NOT block tor.Feb 07 15:14
schestowitzHow can one log in whilst banned from the site? And within a login, is anonymity possible really? There's cookie tracking at Five Eyes.Feb 07 15:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696428079581949952   https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696428253138046978Feb 07 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz How did a member being banned enter into the equation? We only ban for very egregious reasons.Feb 07 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz And as I mentioned, even if you are not logged in we do not explicitly disallow tor in any way.Feb 07 15:24
schestowitzIt sounds like Tor is blocked by default (speaking for the person from diaspora, sort of)Feb 07 15:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/696429731986698240Feb 07 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oshwm666: @linuxquestions @schestowitz Do you block IP Addresses based on a subscription to a blacklist service?Feb 07 15:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 5 Icon Packs for Android!Feb 07 15:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Top 5 Icon Packs for Android!Feb 07 15:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2 https://t.co/cpAsTOu36VFeb 07 15:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (support.zenwalk.org)Feb 07 15:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.zenwalk.org | Zenwalk Support • View topic - Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2Feb 07 15:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today and Yesterday in TechrightsFeb 07 15:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/92KuolqMdV (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 15:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 07 15:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LAVA and Debian Administration SiteFeb 07 15:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8p6EiWNtS4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 15:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LAVA and Debian Administration Site | Tux MachinesFeb 07 15:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/xarpb0wDEYFeb 07 15:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 07 15:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Security Leftovers https://t.co/pBKbKPlljcFeb 07 15:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 07 15:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2 https://t.co/xxPkUfAjmFFeb 07 15:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 15:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 07 15:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Interview Questions - Riccardo IaconelliFeb 07 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Interview Questions - Riccardo Iaconelli | KDE.newsFeb 07 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five reasons I roll with Arch Linux, and whyFeb 07 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 you should too https://t.co/RhugcKRRWDFeb 07 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | Five reasons I roll with Arch Linux, and why you should too | Linux VedaFeb 07 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora 23 Is an Exquisite Fedora 23 RemixFeb 07 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Korora 23 Is an Exquisite Fedora 23 RemixFeb 07 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch Users Report Serious Bug ThatFeb 07 15:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Causes Dropped Calls After OTA UpdateFeb 07 15:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Users Report Serious Bug That Causes Dropped Calls After OTA UpdateFeb 07 15:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today and Yesterday in TechrightsFeb 07 15:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 07 15:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696435896858488833   https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696436119961899008  https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696436726038802432Feb 07 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @Dianne_Khan this is why Gates and that other billionaire shouldn't have a single bloody thing to do with edu https://t.co/S65X9hPiAXFeb 07 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Yet another study calling the #GatesFoundation a fraud and harmful to agriculture" https://t.co/WUO7opRoWW via https://t.co/wZZp5jTSUkFeb 07 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @Dianne_Khan @schestowitz much less be allowed to start a charter school here in NZFeb 07 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @Dianne_Khan here's another https://t.co/TAYyRbb7FBFeb 07 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Fighting “corporate control of education”: A millennial #education wonk goes to war against #neoliberal reform https://t.co/ZPGrYuwKWCFeb 07 15:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/696151573488132096Feb 07 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: Software patents in Europe: Information modelling is in itself not patent-eligible https://t.co/3wiyFM61Ic #swpatsFeb 07 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.europeansoftwarepatents.com | Software patents in Europe: Information modelling is in itself not patent-eligible « European software patentsFeb 07 15:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/696437858148737024  https://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/696438277889531904Feb 07 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oshwm666: @linuxquestions @schestowitz how weird then that the first impression I get of your site is when I follow a link from someone else that...Feb 07 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oshwm666: @linuxquestions @schestowitz ...lands me on the page that notifies me that I am blocked. I guess the solution is just to elsewhere instead.Feb 07 16:02
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schestowitzhttp://dancerscode.com/blog/why-the-open-code-of-conduct-isnt-for-me/Feb 07 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dancerscode.com | Why the Open Code of Conduct Isn’t for Me | Dancer's Code [ http://ur1.ca/ohq39 ]Feb 07 16:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Samoan_Attorney/status/696439728476803072Feb 07 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Samoan_Attorney: @retroDoomer @schestowitz @Dianne_Khan Pretty anemic critique TBH.Feb 07 16:13
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueFeb 07 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1e8bh ]Feb 07 16:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Best Graphics Card Brands For NVIDIA/AMDFeb 07 16:16
TweetTuxMachines                 GPUs As A Linux Consumer?Feb 07 16:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1Retak5pbR (www.phoronix.com)Feb 07 16:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Best Graphics Card Brands For NVIDIA/AMD GPUs As A Linux Consumer? - PhoronixFeb 07 16:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rhythmbox 3.3 (Open-Source Music ManagementFeb 07 16:16
TweetTuxMachines                 App) Brings Changes https://t.co/qDscihxDEUFeb 07 16:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Rhythmbox 3.3 (Open-Source Music Management App) Brings Changes | LinuxG.netFeb 07 16:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Korora 23 Is an Exquisite Fedora 23 Remix...'Feb 07 16:21
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696443791822041088Feb 07 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: Catalogue of Bill Gates' dirty deeds... https://t.co/xOqO2p0uy2Feb 07 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Samoan_Attorney @retroDoomer @Dianne_Khan https://t.co/VlB48Exg46Feb 07 16:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7017557Feb 07 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #MaruOS Turns Your #Android Phone Into A #Linux Desktop Computer http://fossbytes.com/maruos-turns-your-android-phone-into-a-linux-desktop-computer/Feb 07 16:27
schestowitz"won’t that turn a slow PC into a fast Android Smartphone and then back into a slow PC? :D"Feb 07 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fossbytes.com | How MaruOS Turns Your Android Phone Into A Linux Desktop Computer [ http://ur1.ca/ohm1c ]Feb 07 16:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7017359Feb 07 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ZorinOS 11 Screencast and Screenshots http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-screencasts-and-screenshots-114/zorin-os-11-screencast-and-screenshots-4175571420/ #gnu #linuxFeb 07 16:28
schestowitz"So, get an account, let us track you and you’re allowed in is the message. As I said, fuck 'em :D"Feb 07 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxquestions.org | Zorin OS 11 Screencast and Screenshots [ http://ur1.ca/ohm1t ]Feb 07 16:28
schestowitz^^^ Linux QuestionsFeb 07 16:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Samoan_Attorney/status/696445414321459200Feb 07 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Samoan_Attorney: @schestowitz @retroDoomer @Dianne_Khan Much more sanguine, thanks. Complicated man, with a complicated legacy.Feb 07 16:30
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cubexyzwow, Ellison is almost Gates level with $54 billionFeb 07 16:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696447751127748612   https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696448124802433024 https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696448508115734528  https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696448796100849664Feb 07 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz If not logged in, a specific exit node may be blocked for a short amount if time if it has been used to abuse LQ.Feb 07 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz While we are huge proponents of privacy, ensuring the site is available and spam free for all is our top priority.Feb 07 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz We have many members and mods who use tor while logged in and while not logged in...Feb 07 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz ... and we will continue to allow tor in all cases where we can in the future.Feb 07 16:43
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schestowitzhttp://original.antiwar.com/updates/2016/02/06/suicide-bomber-strikes-near-us-base-125-killed-across-iraq/Feb 07 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-original.antiwar.com | Suicide Bomber Strikes near US Base; 125 Killed Across Iraq - Antiwar.com Original by -- Antiwar.com [ http://ur1.ca/ohq9y ]Feb 07 16:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rhythmbox 3.3 (Open-Source Music ManagementFeb 07 16:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on NVIDIA https://t.co/yOWS1SgaMlFeb 07 16:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on NVIDIA | Tux MachinesFeb 07 16:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/fkp3EQ0qFPFeb 07 16:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 07 16:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/L0dRsxgjhiFeb 07 16:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 07 16:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/Awt5XR8MwPFeb 07 16:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux MachinesFeb 07 16:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696464913510825984Feb 07 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz Just interested in what they are granting? Are they of the same low quality as US Software Patents? The EU seems messed up tooFeb 07 17:49
schestowitzPatent scope are an issue, notably patents on seeds, pigs, software and so on.Feb 07 17:50
schestowitzLeft column "Scope" http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPOFeb 07 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - TechrightsFeb 07 17:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696466610782130176Feb 07 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz Why isn't this being stopped?Feb 07 17:54
schestowitzThe public is not doing enough. Did you contact your delegates? http://techrights.org/2015/12/10/ac-national-delegations-contacts/ how about resuming your UPC site?Feb 07 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Contacting National Delegations to Complain About the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ohqli ]Feb 07 17:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696467949230624768Feb 07 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz UPC site?Feb 07 18:00
schestowitzOh, that's Dinet...Feb 07 18:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696469077452320768Feb 07 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz This seems like a bad situation, hope this is stoppedFeb 07 18:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     C.H.I.P. and Raspberry Pi 2Feb 07 18:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | C.H.I.P. and Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 07 18:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Hold the front pages: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS won’tFeb 07 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 ship with the latest Nautilus 3.18 asFeb 07 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 originally intended." https://t.co/qKRj4jqPYdFeb 07 18:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Ship An Older Version Of Nautilus - OMG! Ubuntu!Feb 07 18:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Q4OS Linux Distro Adds a Trinity Repository,Feb 07 18:52
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DaemonFChttps://imgur.com/gallery/NpgsR19/Feb 07 19:10
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/696495903448834049Feb 07 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Have you seen the documentary: "Trump: What's the Deal"? Trump is consistent - in an awful sort of way. https://t.co/KuOEhT7Gt1Feb 07 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> trumpthemovie.com | Trump: What's the Deal?Watch the FilmFeb 07 19:50
schestowitzLack of consistency is a problem when the present position itself needs to be discredited, not when someone is openly vileFeb 07 19:51
schestowitzI'll watch the movie shortlyFeb 07 19:53
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schestowitzhttp://trumpthemovie.com/watch/Feb 07 20:02
cubexyzok, last night I tried out vector linux classic on a celeron 1.8 with the video onboardFeb 07 20:06
cubexyzand the combination was awfulFeb 07 20:06
cubexyzI think the chipset was i810 and vector didn't know what to do with itFeb 07 20:06
cubexyzso it's back to figuring out what to doFeb 07 20:07
oiaohmi810 is not a very good card.Feb 07 20:10
oiaohmcubexyz: just to be fun some failed Nvidia video cards when the Nvidia gpu stops becomes i810 cards.Feb 07 20:10
MinceRhow do they do that?Feb 07 20:11
cubexyzoiaohm, got a question for you...Feb 07 20:11
cubexyzwould getting the fastest AGP card ever made help my old P3 coppermine 866 mhz computer?Feb 07 20:12
oiaohmMinceR: because they turned out to be dual GPU.   Intel GPU was hidden by the Nvidia one.Feb 07 20:12
oiaohmMinceR: it was a power saving mod Nvidia did on some desktop cards before they did it in laptops.Feb 07 20:13
cubexyzgrengerbilFeb 07 20:13
cubexyzah, it's been a while since I've done that :-PFeb 07 20:14
MinceR:)Feb 07 20:16
oiaohmcubexyz: faster AGP card ever can only help a old CPU so far.   Depends on workload lots of workloads don't use GPU at all.Feb 07 20:20
cubexyzfor video playbackFeb 07 20:21
cubexyzis it worth trying or do I just replace the motherboard Feb 07 20:21
oiaohmcubexyz: video playback most of the time is not that evil its more a question does the card have the acclerated decoding for the formats you want to play.Feb 07 20:22
oiaohmcubexyz: to max out video playback on a p3 would not require the faster agp card ever made.Feb 07 20:22
oiaohmcubexyz: of course depending on what file you are attempt to play back it would be possible for the P3 to run out of IO to transfer the video.Feb 07 20:23
oiaohmcubexyz: out of IO making card bigger will not help you.Feb 07 20:24
cubexyzthe radeon 9550 works well on P3Feb 07 20:24
oiaohmFor video play back replacing that you are not going to see any improvement.Feb 07 20:25
cubexyzif I replace the motherboard what CPU would be the coolest running?Feb 07 20:25
oiaohmOther than possible color improvement because some of the old radeons as they age go off color.Feb 07 20:25
oiaohmcubexyz: I would have to dig though the cpu lists to answer what would be the coolest running.Feb 07 20:26
cubexyzI heard the new intel skylake arch was pretty goodFeb 07 20:27
oiaohmcubexyz: there is quite a range of temperatures in skylake.Feb 07 20:27
cubexyzdoesn't need to be the fastestFeb 07 20:28
cubexyzI assume any of them would be a quantum leap over a p3Feb 07 20:28
cubexyzeven the slowest i3 would probably doFeb 07 20:29
oiaohmcubexyz: speed yes tempeture not all.Feb 07 20:31
oiaohmp3 is less than 40w of heat per cpu.Feb 07 20:31
oiaohmFrom memory skylake is from 15 to 110w of heat.Feb 07 20:31
oiaohmOf course that is depending on what skylake cpu is choosen.Feb 07 20:32
oiaohmcubexyz: just to be confusing skylake heat does not align to clockspeed.Feb 07 20:33
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cubexyzP3 866 mhz coppermine is listed with 30.8 wattFeb 07 20:39
cubexyzcould you put a P3-M in a desktop? some of those were 7 wattFeb 07 20:41
cubexyzcore duo U2500 9 wattFeb 07 20:42
cubexyzbut what has the best IO/CPU Power/heat dissipation ratio, no ideaFeb 07 20:43
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oiaohmcubexyz: you now get why I was being vague its not an easy answer.Feb 07 20:50
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cubexyzok, vector linux 7.1 light is decent enough Feb 08 01:21
cubexyzI had some issues with fonts on the new firefoxFeb 08 01:21
cubexyzsmtube worked quite wellFeb 08 01:22
cubexyzthere's something up with firefox versions 32 and laterFeb 08 01:59
cubexyzparts of the font are transparent, just doesn't look rightFeb 08 01:59
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ff-text-fail.pngFeb 08 02:01
*amarsh04 runs a radeon 9550 on this machineFeb 08 02:06
amarsh04the other machine has a radeon hd 5450 (slowest I could get for pci express)Feb 08 02:07
cubexyzyou wanted the slowest?Feb 08 02:07
amarsh04lowest powerFeb 08 02:08
cubexyzah rightFeb 08 02:08
amarsh04it can still play back 1920 x 1080 video alright most of the timeFeb 08 02:09
cubexyzthere are times when I actually did want a slower deviceFeb 08 02:10
amarsh04might get something faster later on if I really want toFeb 08 02:10
cubexyzold computer needed an old cdrom, wouldn't work with a new oneFeb 08 02:10
amarsh04well, I couldn't buy a new CD/DVD drive with IDE interfaceFeb 08 02:10
amarsh04and I wanted the drive to be bootable, so I found a secondhand oneFeb 08 02:11
cubexyzyou might be able to find a NOS one on ebayFeb 08 02:11
cubexyzI have a P3 box that I added an IDE/SATA card toFeb 08 02:12
amarsh04I ended up getting a Soundblaster Audigy sound card on ebayFeb 08 02:12
amarsh04can it boot off devices attached to that card?Feb 08 02:12
cubexyznever tried thatFeb 08 02:13
cubexyzlet me give knoppixmame a tryFeb 08 02:13
amarsh04this old machine's bios has a "SCSI" option in the boot order (and I have a SCSI card in it, but don't boot from it)Feb 08 02:14
amarsh04it's a slightly different matter between being able to support a storage device on a particular machine and being able to boot from itFeb 08 02:15
amarsh04not sure that this machine can boot from USB stick so I use the CD drive for emergency boot repairsFeb 08 02:15
cubexyzI have to say no in my caseFeb 08 02:17
cubexyzP3 QDI motherboard with IDE/SATA cardFeb 08 02:17
cubexyzprobably wouldn't be able to boot the SATA hard drive eitherFeb 08 02:17
cubexyzsurely that is a BIOS limitationFeb 08 02:19
amarsh04yesFeb 08 02:26
amarsh04anyway, time to switch machinesFeb 08 02:27
amarsh04bfnFeb 08 02:27
oiaohmcubexyz: not exactly that simple.  Some IDE/SATA cards append the BIOS so allowing systems to boot bigger hard drives than the default BIOS can.Feb 08 03:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IP_Meldrew/status/696619725653200896Feb 08 04:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IP_Meldrew: How could we forget you when you're in our face so much? Will you remain blind, when it is a success for SMEs? https://t.co/4JRhOFmovVFeb 08 04:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If the #upc ever becomes a reality (it's not inevitable, no matter what #epo and #patent lawyers say), remember those who warned about itFeb 08 04:03
TweetTuxMachines@bastianbest     "European Software Patents Weekly" is out!Feb 08 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tmMZSSB96I (paper.li) #swpatFeb 08 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Thanks to @dsd_essex @tuxmachines @Tax4BusinessFeb 08 04:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsrrFeb 08 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | European Software Patents WeeklyFeb 08 04:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/696626874890522624Feb 08 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz US pilot "was arrested as an “ISIS fighter” was a complete fabrication." https://t.co/ZlvWecMHD8 #turkeyFeb 08 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theintercept.com | U.S. Air Force Veteran, Smeared as “an ISIS Fighter,” Just Returned to the U.S.Feb 08 04:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/696628130971262976Feb 08 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: MT @schestowitz SIPO (China's Patent Office) Taken Over by Patent Maximalists https://t.co/1oGM9ts9IyFeb 08 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | SIPO (China’s Patent Office) Taken Over by Patent Maximalists | TechrightsFeb 08 04:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IP_Meldrew/status/696633920859799552Feb 08 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IP_Meldrew: Are you so relentlessly Luddite in all things? Computers weren't a success until they were invented and tried. https://t.co/XRoEWD2N6SFeb 08 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: No examples #upc is a success for SMEs and since UPC is still an #epo and #patent lawyers' fantasy, can take time https://t.co/GwiyVswqZnFeb 08 05:04
schestowitzIn spite of patentsFeb 08 05:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.5 RC3  https://t.co/m4NSrQQU5cFeb 08 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (lkml.iu.edu) https://t.co/c8mWx7zsNxFeb 08 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/vjsAXXiHAXFeb 08 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 4.5-rc3Feb 08 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 08 05:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsv5Feb 08 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.5-rc3 Kernel Released & Has Fixes For AMDGPU - PhoronixFeb 08 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Releases a "Slightly Bigger than Expected" Linux Kernel 4.5 RC3Feb 08 05:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in theFeb 08 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus 1.1 Linux Operating SystemFeb 08 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ryrf6VFCqF (news.softpedia.com)Feb 08 05:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsv6Feb 08 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in the Solus 1.1 Linux Operating SystemFeb 08 05:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android-x86 4.4-r5 Might Be the Last Release inFeb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines                 the Android 4.4 “KitKat” SeriesFeb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/z1UZHHflZN (news.softpedia.com)Feb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsw1Feb 08 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-x86 4.4-r5 Might Be the Last Release in the Android 4.4 "KitKat" SeriesFeb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical and Spain's BQ team to put Ubuntu onFeb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines                 a tablet https://t.co/RoHdUkX2QrFeb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Feb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsw2Feb 08 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Canonical and Spain's BQ team to put Ubuntu on a tablet • The RegisterFeb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Ken's love of programming eventually led to aFeb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines                 job at Canonical, and then he learned about theFeb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Kramden Institute." https://t.co/cWOrxZnLaNFeb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (opensource.com)Feb 08 05:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsw3Feb 08 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Kramden helps bridge the digital divide in North Carolina communities | Opensource.comFeb 08 05:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat hosts Philippine forum to promote openFeb 08 05:44
TweetTuxMachines                 source technology https://t.co/9O3aQlog6jFeb 08 05:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.interaksyon.com)Feb 08 05:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsz4Feb 08 05:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.interaksyon.com | Red Hat hosts Philippine forum to promote open source technology | Infotek News: InterAksyon.comFeb 08 05:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why I fought for open source in the Air ForceFeb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KVJYbzGvyZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsz5Feb 08 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why I fought for open source in the Air Force | Tux MachinesFeb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in theFeb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus 1.1 Linux Operating SystemFeb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K4Yhf5Sxjy (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsz6Feb 08 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in the Solus 1.1 Linux Operating System | Tux MachinesFeb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Git 2.7 Gets Its First Point Release, Adds overFeb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 20 Optimizations and FixesFeb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mgCJmx3ans (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 05:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsz7Feb 08 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.7 Gets Its First Point Release, Adds over 20 Optimizations and Fixes | Tux MachinesFeb 08 05:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agonarch/status/696656041317167104Feb 08 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agonarch: @schestowitz @zoobab With more conservative publishing or peer review TR would make huge impact. Btw: Why haven't you fixed your CSS theme?Feb 08 06:26
schestowitzWhat needs fixing in CSS?Feb 08 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/3LklCwyeBCFeb 08 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 06:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oht43Feb 08 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux MachinesFeb 08 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat News https://t.co/Ebkr0rxlazFeb 08 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 06:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oht44Feb 08 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux MachinesFeb 08 06:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.5 RC3 https://t.co/m4NSrQQU5c https://t.co/c8mWx7zsNx https://t.co/vjsAXXiHAX'Feb 08 06:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in...'Feb 08 06:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Android-x86 4.4-r5 Might Be the Last Release in...'Feb 08 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 4.5-rc3Feb 08 06:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in...'Feb 08 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.5-rc3 Kernel Released & Has Fixes For AMDGPU - PhoronixFeb 08 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Releases a "Slightly Bigger than Expected" Linux Kernel 4.5 RC3Feb 08 06:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agonarch/status/696658565344448512Feb 08 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agonarch: @schestowitz @zoobab This overlayed shadow image. Either align it properly to the right or get rid off it. ;) https://t.co/npP7iEfnnkFeb 08 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agonarch: @schestowitz @zoobab This overlayed shadow image. Either align it properly to the right or get rid off it. ;) https://t.co/npP7iEfnnkFeb 08 06:37
schestowitzThis boils down to taste, I guess. This design is part of the original, which I lated modified.Feb 08 06:37
schestowitz*laterFeb 08 06:37
cubexyzoiaohm, if you're still around... I tried everything to get the cdrom on the PCI IDE/SATA card to bootFeb 08 06:39
cubexyzit's chipset is VT642Feb 08 06:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/696662482174275584Feb 08 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @agonarch @schestowitz it looks crap for years. Just pick another nice looking wordpress theme, it will be faster and cheaper.Feb 08 06:53
schestowitzit's a matter of taste, and consistency across the site, preserving old layouts tooFeb 08 06:53
oiaohmcubexyz: there are differences between cards.   Some PCI IDE/SATA and boot ones some are not.   I guess that one does not have a firmware block to add it self to the bios.Feb 08 07:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DavidBrooke_IP/status/696664775963643904Feb 08 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DavidBrooke_IP: @schestowitz what about Sanders?Feb 08 07:41
schestowitzI don't think he'd be loyal to corporations/corporate pressure where it's a disservice to public interests. Same with Corbyn.Feb 08 07:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IP_Meldrew/status/696665259596238848Feb 08 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IP_Meldrew: What proof is there that it was in spite of patents? https://t.co/dEzsItfD21Feb 08 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @IP_Meldrew In spite of patentsFeb 08 07:42
schestowitzA lot of innovation happened without patentsFeb 08 07:42
schestowitzIncluding, famously, the Internet and WWWFeb 08 07:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/aral/status/696667440252653568Feb 08 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aral: “Assange’s continued confinement…constitutes…knowing and intentional commission of several prosecutable war crimes.” https://t.co/fQ4RCax7jOFeb 08 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Sweden and the UK have served and continue to serve as proxies for the United States in its pursuit of Assange" https://t.co/DHio8m9SufFeb 08 07:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Git 2.7 Gets Its First Point Release, Adds...'Feb 08 08:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System interviewFeb 08 08:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cGqWZyL32g (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 08:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtezFeb 08 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System interview | Tux MachinesFeb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 8/2/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 2, Q4OS 1.4.7Feb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PyC8FyMBYY (techrights.org)Feb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtf0Feb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/S0memB175MFeb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtf1Feb 08 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/2/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 2, Q4OS 1.4.7 | TechrightsFeb 08 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/V35yjHku8tFeb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtf2Feb 08 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME and KDE https://t.co/Iy2EggoBeOFeb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 08:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtf3Feb 08 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and KDE | Tux MachinesFeb 08 08:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/cv3rPiWIt1Feb 08 10:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 10:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtpsFeb 08 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 08 10:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LOHAN entertains the crowd at Oz Linux shindigFeb 08 10:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/E5tMw7ynRw (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 10:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtptFeb 08 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LOHAN entertains the crowd at Oz Linux shindig | Tux MachinesFeb 08 10:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Go(lang) meets Fedora https://t.co/CwKauTFeVDFeb 08 10:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 10:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtpuFeb 08 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go(lang) meets Fedora | Tux MachinesFeb 08 10:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 8/2/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 2, Q4OS 1.4.7Feb 08 10:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/PyC8FyMBYY (techrights.org)Feb 08 10:05
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 08 10:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtpvFeb 08 10:05
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/eUcTHkpFeb 08 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Carnival float in Düsseldorf, Germany - ImgurFeb 08 10:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 8/2/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 2, Q4OS 1.4.7Feb 08 11:59
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/PyC8FyMBYY (techrights.org)Feb 08 11:59
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  Feb 08 11:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohu12Feb 08 11:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/2/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 2, Q4OS 1.4.7 | TechrightsFeb 08 11:59
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/yssfWIq.pngFeb 08 15:10
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JernHi, how can I send you a translation of the Juve article?Feb 08 15:19
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schestowitz> http://chronicle.com/article/The-Water-Next-Time-Professor/235136Feb 08 15:26
schestowitz> Feb 08 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chronicle.com | The Water Next Time: Professor Who Helped Expose Crisis in Flint Says Public Science Is Broken - The Chronicle of Higher Education [ http://ur1.ca/ohugk ]Feb 08 15:26
schestowitz> ==Feb 08 15:26
schestowitz> Feb 08 15:26
schestowitz> xFeb 08 15:26
schestowitz> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2445551/people-and-admin-settings-are-windows-biggest-security-problemFeb 08 15:26
schestowitz> Feb 08 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | People and admin settings are Windows' biggest security problem- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/ohugl ]Feb 08 15:26
schestowitz> more blaming the victimFeb 08 15:26
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schestowitz> http://blog.jdpfu.com/2016/02/07/sorry-ec2-amazon-visitorsFeb 08 15:34
schestowitz> Feb 08 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jdpfu.com | Sorry EC2 Amazon Visitors | JDPFu.com 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/ohugy ]Feb 08 15:34
schestowitz> spiders?Feb 08 15:34
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/06/28/aws-ddos/Feb 08 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Amazon AWS Used for DDOS Attacks Against My Web Sites, Amazon Takes 14 Hours to Reply But Not Take Action (Updatedx5) [ http://ur1.ca/mzb2g ]Feb 08 15:34
XRevan86schestowitz: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1353ec80b0080133094c6e81d42d71a6 %)Feb 08 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?Feb 08 16:06
schestowitzXRevan86: what's the ending of that url?Feb 08 16:08
schestowitzOh, I see...Feb 08 16:09
schestowitz"you do ?"Feb 08 16:09
schestowitzI don'tFeb 08 16:09
XRevan86schestowitz: I know. Autoreposting to Diaspora* can be confusing.Feb 08 16:09
XRevan86schestowitz: It is auto-, right?Feb 08 16:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/696669844855517185Feb 08 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Cp2102 USB serial controlling a relay to power on/off a Bananapi, plus accessing its serial console #sunxi https://t.co/2RvI8cjCkDFeb 08 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Cp2102 USB serial controlling a relay to power on/off a Bananapi, plus accessing its serial console #sunxi https://t.co/2RvI8cjCkDFeb 08 16:22
schestowitzXRevan86: what does it mean?>Feb 08 16:23
XRevan86schestowitz: Do you use some sort of script to get things into Diaspora*?Feb 08 16:23
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schestowitznoFeb 08 16:33
schestowitzThat's where I post everythingFeb 08 16:33
schestowitzfrom there is passed to TwitterFeb 08 16:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/696824782059409408Feb 08 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz the worst is when you tap a Twitter link and the page opens and switches to App Store in #ios urging you to install an app!Feb 08 17:38
schestowitzsame in Android (even old versions)Feb 08 17:38
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schestowitzhttp://jackofkent.com/2016/02/the-prisons-policy-of-a-mischivious-demon/Feb 08 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jackofkent.com | The prisons policy of a mischievous demon – Jack of Kent blogFeb 08 18:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Long Term Support vs Rolling Linux ReleaseFeb 08 18:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/l1MRYi3BHc (www.datamation.com)Feb 08 18:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohupmFeb 08 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Long Term Support vs Rolling Linux Release - DatamationFeb 08 18:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers GroveFeb 08 18:31
TweetTuxMachines                 I/O  https://t.co/2TltMdK1Jp (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 08 18:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohupnFeb 08 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers Grove I/O ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 08 18:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone Users Will Have to Wait a...'Feb 08 18:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://t.co/GVvEz0WbtM (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 18:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuruFeb 08 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux.Conf.Au 2016 Videos Now Online - PhoronixFeb 08 18:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LCA 2016 Videos Now OnlineFeb 08 18:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GVvEz0WbtM (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 18:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohurvFeb 08 18:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 6 Marshmallow update: when can I getFeb 08 18:50
TweetTuxMachines                 it? https://t.co/I5YuVrXQQ1 (www.techradar.com)Feb 08 18:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohurwFeb 08 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | Android 6 Marshmallow update: when can I get it? | TechRadarFeb 08 18:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast,Feb 08 18:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Fully-Free-Software WorkstationFeb 08 18:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mMaIUJS4Ku (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 18:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohusgFeb 08 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast, Fully-Free-Software Workstation - PhoronixFeb 08 18:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gas Guzzlers Extreme looks like it is going toFeb 08 18:54
TweetTuxMachines                 come to Linux, porting starts soonFeb 08 18:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hl3BQ7cuh9 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 08 18:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuskFeb 08 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Gas Guzzlers Extreme looks like it is going to come to Linux, porting starts soon | GamingOnLinuxFeb 08 18:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unvanquished Alpha 48 Released, One Step CloserFeb 08 18:55
TweetTuxMachines                 To Beta https://t.co/gD4NkFkmpRFeb 08 18:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 18:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuslFeb 08 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unvanquished Alpha 48 Released, One Step Closer To Beta - PhoronixFeb 08 18:55
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/hFF75hK.jpgFeb 08 18:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiplayer indie action game 'Super SnowFeb 08 18:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Fight' may get a Linux version if there isFeb 08 18:59
TweetTuxMachines                 enough demand https://t.co/ElCMb4uQ3jFeb 08 18:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 08 18:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohut9Feb 08 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Multiplayer indie action game 'Super Snow Fight' may get a Linux version if there is enough demand | GamingOnLinuxFeb 08 18:59
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Multiplayer indie action game 'Super Snow Fight' may...'Feb 08 18:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lossless Compression Brings Possible SpeedupsFeb 08 19:01
TweetTuxMachines                 To Skylake Linux Mesa DriverFeb 08 19:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LCacl6Uvm7 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 19:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohutmFeb 08 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lossless Compression Brings Possible Speedups To Skylake Linux Mesa Driver - PhoronixFeb 08 19:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers GroveFeb 08 19:01
TweetTuxMachines                 I/O https://t.co/Po4f24jonqFeb 08 19:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 19:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohutnFeb 08 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers Grove I/O | Tux MachinesFeb 08 19:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails 2.0 https://t.co/91eTnKnC1O (error)Feb 08 19:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohutpFeb 08 19:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 2.0 | Tux MachinesFeb 08 19:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s How Windows 10 ‘Spying’ Forced A User ToFeb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Switch To Linux Mint On His ComputerFeb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9FzG2SJ8GV (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuu5Feb 08 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s How Windows 10 ‘Spying’ Forced A User To Switch To Linux Mint On His Computer | Tux MachinesFeb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Schedule Tasks with CronFeb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DFW6ePi4Ae (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuu6Feb 08 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Schedule Tasks with Cron | Tux MachinesFeb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast,Feb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Fully-Free-Software WorkstationFeb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bCYrbIrHVs (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 19:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuu7Feb 08 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast, Fully-Free-Software Workstation | Tux MachinesFeb 08 19:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 8/2/2016: Vista 10 Nags Help GNU/Linux,Feb 08 19:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Nautilus UpdatedFeb 08 19:51
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/u9mO3ib8Eh (techrights.org)Feb 08 19:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuzeFeb 08 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/2/2016: Vista 10 Nags Help GNU/Linux, Nautilus Updated | TechrightsFeb 08 19:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/gTvr0XbiLfFeb 08 19:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 19:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuzfFeb 08 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 08 19:51
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 8/2/2016: Vista 10 Nags Help GNU/Linux, Nautilus...'Feb 08 19:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/8fccY6ch1ZFeb 08 19:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 19:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuziFeb 08 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 08 19:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/X9aQ5vZ31PFeb 08 19:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 19:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuzjFeb 08 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 08 19:52
MinceRhttp://i2.wp.com/www.bugmartini.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-01-29-The-Matrix-Trumpolutions.pngFeb 08 19:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel Space: Linux, GraphicsFeb 08 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g7vf3uepZ8 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 20:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0jFeb 08 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: Linux, Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 08 20:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/7GTDssjMCdFeb 08 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 20:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0kFeb 08 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 08 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/YB6nhm2ZQIFeb 08 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 20:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0lFeb 08 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 08 20:01
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/rGPfwFeb 08 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Glide app brings #Jetsons vibe to AndroidFeb 08 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | When you realize why you hate someone. - Album on ImgurFeb 08 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 smart watches https://t.co/mMN2ASxWCyFeb 08 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.timesofisrael.com) #android #linuxFeb 08 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timesofisrael.com | Glide app brings Jetsons vibe to Android smart watches | The Times of IsraelFeb 08 20:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0pFeb 08 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Report: Google to launch a Gear VR competitor,Feb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 build VR into Android OSFeb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3uJJCKixtq (arstechnica.com)Feb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 #android #linux #vrFeb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0xFeb 08 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Report: Google to launch a Gear VR competitor, build VR into Android OS | Ars TechnicaFeb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Swapnil Bhartiya’s #ArchLinux guideFeb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rl4qzRtL5n (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0yFeb 08 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Swapnil Bhartiya's Arch Linux guide | Tux MachinesFeb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Best #Recipe Manager for #AndroidFeb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KkibdQllSN (lifehacker.com)Feb 08 20:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0zFeb 08 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | The Best Recipe Manager for AndroidFeb 08 20:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tn_Recipes      @tuxmachines hello! we're recommending your msgFeb 08 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 on #theneeds #Recipes! VisitFeb 08 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4fIR737LMz (www.theneeds.com) & RTFeb 08 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 to spread the word!Feb 08 20:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv33Feb 08 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theneeds.com | Theneeds - tuxmachines's suggestionFeb 08 20:27
*TweetTuxMachines @tn_Recipes favourited 'The Best #Recipe Manager for #Android https://t.co/KkibdQllSN'Feb 08 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/gTvr0XbiLfFeb 08 22:29
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 22:29
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  Feb 08 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 08 22:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvemFeb 08 22:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Swapnil Bhartiya's Arch Linux guideFeb 08 22:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Uc1J6uNg89 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 22:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvepFeb 08 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Swapnil Bhartiya's Arch Linux guide | Tux MachinesFeb 08 22:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exton|OS Light Is One of the First LinuxFeb 08 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 08 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Xajr49mLnk (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 22:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvgwFeb 08 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exton|OS Light Is One of the First Linux Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux MachinesFeb 08 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet EditorFeb 09 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, MoreFeb 09 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2K8xit8Blb (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 02:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvysFeb 09 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet Editor Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, More | Tux MachinesFeb 09 02:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/YB6nhm2ZQIFeb 09 04:49
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 04:49
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 09 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 04:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwa1Feb 09 04:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Reproducible builds: week 41 in Stretch cycle Feb 09 05:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T9fhf9icyI (people.debian.org)Feb 09 05:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwd5Feb 09 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://people.debian.org/~lunar/blog/posts/reproducible_builds_stretch_week_41/ )Feb 09 05:02
schestowitzRe: tough oneFeb 09 05:22
schestowitz> Its good about Spanish translations have made it into sites that show up inFeb 09 05:22
schestowitz> Google. ThanksFeb 09 05:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 05:22
schestowitz> Saturday I did send you the number 50 since the begining of the year:Feb 09 05:22
schestowitz> [edik@mybox ~]$ ll -tr  techrights/ | wc -lFeb 09 05:22
schestowitz> 51Feb 09 05:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 05:22
schestowitz> I will start a couple of classes but I'll try to keep up as much as I can.Feb 09 05:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 05:22
schestowitz> Here it goes 51!Feb 09 05:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 05:22
schestowitz> Have a nice TuesdayFeb 09 05:22
schestowitzThe number of patent lawyers reading my site (to understand 'the other side') seems to have grown a lot. We change their views on these subject or illuminate them.Feb 09 05:22
schestowitz# ¿Qué_esta_mal_con_la_OEP? #last part of urlFeb 09 05:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Developer Experience Hackfest 2016Feb 09 06:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yswsMPTlDH (blogs.gnome.org)Feb 09 06:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwi6Feb 09 06:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Opinion: BlackBerry PRIV’s bloatware makesFeb 09 06:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Android better [Video] https://t.co/bUsBJIbayjFeb 09 06:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (9to5google.com)Feb 09 06:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9to5google.com | Opinion: BlackBerry PRIV’s bloatware makes Android better [Video] | 9to5GoogleFeb 09 06:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwi7Feb 09 06:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/qnfCmBd2BEFeb 09 06:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 06:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwi9Feb 09 06:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 09 06:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exton|OS Light Is One of the First LinuxFeb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XSsRqjmayB (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwifFeb 09 06:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Light Is One of the First Linux Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet EditorFeb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, MoreFeb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iWRXP9Aw4i (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwigFeb 09 06:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet Editor Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, MoreFeb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can a $50 Android tablet be any good?Feb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/obWm2uaYu5 (www.technobuffalo.com)Feb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwihFeb 09 06:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | Can a $50 Android tablet be any good?Feb 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical reckons Android phone-makers willFeb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 switch to Ubuntu https://t.co/TIRVVmGRPVFeb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Feb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwkgFeb 09 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Canonical reckons Android phone-makers will switch to Ubuntu • The RegisterFeb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Firefox 44.0.1 Patches Graphics StartupFeb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Crashes on Linux, Adds Gecko SDKFeb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/vNXsfEdecx (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwkhFeb 09 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Mozilla Firefox 44.0.1 Patches Graphics Startup Crashes on Linux, Adds Gecko SDKFeb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here Is My Linux 4.5-rc3 Kernel Spin WithFeb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 AMDGPU PowerPlay & CIK EnabledFeb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PH7YrxJWwm (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwkiFeb 09 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Here Is My Linux 4.5-rc3 Kernel Spin With AMDGPU PowerPlay & CIK Enabled - PhoronixFeb 09 06:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackel 4.14.14 kde beta1 has been releasedFeb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CWQ9aOG5v3 (www.slackel.gr)Feb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwm3Feb 09 06:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slackel.gr | .:Slackel - Hellenic Linux Distribution::.Feb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk CloningFeb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Live CD Is Available for DownloadFeb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/Zj4TlPySo8 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwm5Feb 09 06:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live CD Is Available for DownloadFeb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 open source tools for Linux system monitoringFeb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cbalrk9Yz3 (opensource.com)Feb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwm6Feb 09 06:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | 4 system monitoring tools for Linux | Opensource.comFeb 09 06:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora Infrastructure – Year In ReviewFeb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/O9aX294pGDFeb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)Feb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwmaFeb 09 06:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch Could Finally Get Selfie StickFeb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Support in OTA 10 https://t.co/nEQGeKTqFOFeb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwmbFeb 09 06:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Could Finally Get Selfie Stick Support in OTA 10Feb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making,Feb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Here's What Works https://t.co/uimKXATxjCFeb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 06:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwmcFeb 09 06:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making, Here's What WorksFeb 09 06:42
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the...'Feb 09 06:42
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch Could Finally Get Selfie Stick Support...'Feb 09 06:43
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TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org) new releaseFeb 09 06:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | MakuluLinux 10 "Xfce" Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 09 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MakuluLinux 10 Xfce Edition Is Now Live and Does Not Disappoint, Says the DevFeb 09 06:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Linux, GraphicsFeb 09 06:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Linux, Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 09 06:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 open source tools for Linux system monitoringFeb 09 06:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 open source tools for Linux system monitoring | Tux MachinesFeb 09 06:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk CloningFeb 09 06:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Live CD Is Available for DownloadFeb 09 06:54
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TweetTuxMachines                 Here's What Works https://t.co/U3C1sbUefWFeb 09 08:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making, Here's What Works | Tux MachinesFeb 09 08:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Long time no Snappy ClinicFeb 09 08:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Long time no Snappy Clinic | Tux MachinesFeb 09 08:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mesfin_Haile/status/697059299130998785Feb 09 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mesfin_Haile: @schestowitz @glynmoody who wants to lead failing economies, when politicians are Jesuit trained to do follyFeb 09 09:39
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697068695915462656   https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/697069051869319169Feb 09 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz @glynmoody I hear the administrative council are asking advice from senior judges. Conference at the end of February I think.Feb 09 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @Twpalovi @schestowitz interesting - thanksFeb 09 09:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, Someone I know "got Windows 10", as in he was running Windows 7 and then Microsoft marked 10 as a recommended update, which Windows 7 treats as urgent updates by default.Feb 09 10:10
DaemonFCSo he goes to boot up his laptop and this "Windows failed to start correctly." thing comes up.Feb 09 10:11
DaemonFCSo he reboots, and it manages to get to the desktop after a while, but the video driver is broken and nothing from Steam runs. Feb 09 10:11
DaemonFCI wonder how typical this is.Feb 09 10:11
DaemonFCPeople never want to mess with a working system. Microsoft knows that. They push Windows 10 aggressively, and well, sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.Feb 09 10:12
DaemonFCI wonder if trying to back it out is the right answer or if something bad would happen going that direction too.Feb 09 10:13
DaemonFCI wonder how much lost productivity this will bring in macro.Feb 09 10:14
abeNd-orgi havent seen that myself yet, but all the ones ive done i did a cleanup first before running the update *shrug*Feb 09 10:17
abeNd-orgheck one of my dad's machines went from vista/8/8.1/10 & somehow it is still kickingFeb 09 10:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft's Copyrights- and Patents-BasedFeb 09 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry onFeb 09 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4CVK19qEoR (techrights.org)Feb 09 10:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An open source fix leads to a new career in ITFeb 09 10:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pW8m6KIDIK (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 10:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. NowFeb 09 10:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Watch Him Do the Same With AIFeb 09 10:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K8BYpvxZ2m (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 10:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tunir 0.13 is released and one year ofFeb 09 10:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releasesFeb 09 10:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpetsFeb 09 10:53
TweetTuxMachines                 code contributions from across 30 founderFeb 09 10:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on | TechrightsFeb 09 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An open source fix leads to a new career in IT | Tux MachinesFeb 09 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. Now Watch Him Do the Same With AI | Tux MachinesFeb 09 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tunir 0.13 is released and one year of development | Tux MachinesFeb 09 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releases | Tux MachinesFeb 09 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpets code contributions from across 30 founder members | Tux MachinesFeb 09 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All SupportedFeb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/vwep7aVLgGFeb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 11:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux MachinesFeb 09 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft's Copyrights- and Patents-BasedFeb 09 11:43
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry onFeb 09 11:43
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/4CVK19qEoR (techrights.org)Feb 09 11:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on | TechrightsFeb 09 11:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7025157Feb 09 11:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hillary Clinton’s Populist Charade http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/08/hillary-clintons-populist-charade/ not just working for Wall Street but also a good liar. #clintonFeb 09 11:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'www.counterpunch.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/08/hillary-clintons-populist-charade/ )Feb 09 11:56
schestowitz"It stops as soon as the primary is over, then she tries to be more conservative than the repugs"Feb 09 11:56
schestowitzMaybe she can defect to GOP and the mask will fall :-)Feb 09 11:57
abeNd-orgplease, no more clintons or bushs....Feb 09 12:02
abeNd-org"Whoever wins... We lose."Feb 09 12:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697026559765393409Feb 09 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @pinkbike that would be great if you could explain what's new about Stan ZTR Flow rims https://t.co/31Vy20D83cFeb 09 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.bikemag.com/news/stans-notubes-wins-patent-battle-against-specialized/#roobDuF1mf61TDOy.97 )Feb 09 12:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/ddpihAvLzjFeb 09 12:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 12:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 12:09
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/ddpihAvLzj'Feb 09 12:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/696975571918655488Feb 09 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: 20 years of decleration of Independence of cyberspace, and the internet is still too easy to censor, even TOR can be DDOSed #eff @jpbarlowFeb 09 12:14
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 12:20
schestowitz"Feb 09 12:20
schestowitzMy favorite part is when I am forced to manually strip the :s out of file names that a TV recording app produces, because FAT32 (which is all that many Android devices can support on SD cards for some reason) does not allow them.Feb 09 12:20
schestowitzThat, or the 4 GB file size limit.Feb 09 12:20
schestowitz"Feb 09 12:20
schestowitz"But I was told Microsoft was our friend now..."Feb 09 12:20
MinceRwith friends like that, who needs enemies?Feb 09 12:21
schestowitzexactlyFeb 09 12:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/697115930011295744Feb 09 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Obama signs two executive orders on cybersecurity @schestowitz https://t.co/fKaqTC0AEIFeb 09 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.usatoday.com | Obama signs two executive orders on cybersecurityFeb 09 13:09
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 13:11
schestowitz"And I was told I was paranoid for not believing them!"Feb 09 13:11
schestowitz"I would just feel such a cunt doing that job."Feb 09 13:11
schestowitz"This is not about copyright, this is about Microsoft patenting software. That's, ofc, impossible in theory, but American patent system works under assumption that anything can be patented until someone objects it, so Microsoft holds patents to stuff like "storing long and short filename" or "double click". EU companies like TomTom are free to "violate" such nonsensical patents as long as they stay in EU, but once they try to do business in Feb 09 13:12
schestowitzUSA, M$ lawyer knocks on their doors and makes offer that cannot be refused. Well, it can be, in theory, but have fun trying to win patent lawsuit against Microsot..."Feb 09 13:12
schestowitz"Feb 09 13:12
schestowitz    Well, it can be, in theory, but have fun trying to win patent lawsuit against Microsoft...Feb 09 13:12
schestowitzYeah, 10 years, several appeals, and millions of dollars later.... This is just an absurd situation.Feb 09 13:12
schestowitz"Feb 09 13:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/yq0xQJvNTWFeb 09 13:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 13:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 13:14
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/yq0xQJvNTW'Feb 09 13:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026080Feb 09 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A bunch of politicians who know zilch about mass #surveillance and are misled by spying profiteers make 'errors' again http://www.itpro.co.uk/public-sector/26015/snooper-s-charter-fails-to-protect-privacy-warn-mpsFeb 09 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itpro.co.uk | Snooper’s Charter fails to protect privacy, warn MPs | IT PRO [ http://ur1.ca/ohyac ]Feb 09 13:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A new frontier for open source: Linux willFeb 09 13:19
TweetTuxMachines                 power our robotic futureFeb 09 13:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IXVGB8ATZZ (www.zdnet.com)Feb 09 13:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | A new frontier for open source: Linux will power our robotic future | ZDNetFeb 09 13:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An open source fix leads to a new career in ITFeb 09 13:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uBtDYLpaXx (opensource.com)Feb 09 13:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | My Linux Story: Tim College | Opensource.comFeb 09 13:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. NowFeb 09 13:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Watch Him Do the Same With AIFeb 09 13:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IWxS1uMoCx (www.wired.com)Feb 09 13:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. Now Watch Him Do the Same With AI | WIREDFeb 09 13:19
schestowitzMicrosoft apologist:Feb 09 13:24
schestowitz"Feb 09 13:24
schestowitzYeah that's what I don't get, MS isn't unique or even particularly egregious in its use of the patent system.Feb 09 13:24
schestowitzI mean, the problem isn't that Microdollaroft are dickheads, the problem is that businesses are amoral and the American patent system is so moronic I can only assume it was invented by a five year old. Surely the way to fix it is to overhaul that system rather than writing angry opinion pieces like the OP's one? Because, yeah, under US law what they're doing is legal and within their rights.Feb 09 13:24
schestowitzI mean, Apple has been playing this game on and off for years with Android. Patent trolls crop up all the time that use the mercury-huffing retardation of the US patent system to patent crap like 'devices which use electricity' and then suing people for breaking it. Heck, to return to Apple and the idea that standards should be reasonably easy to get, they are many, many times worse than Microsoft at wrecking compatibility between their Feb 09 13:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releasesFeb 09 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/S9h8BYKT5K (www.zdnet.com)Feb 09 13:24
schestowitzstuff and others and answering concerns with 'lol buy our stuff'.Feb 09 13:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releases | ZDNetFeb 09 13:24
schestowitzAll this opinion piece, and most of the other ones I've read, do is get angry at Microsoft for exercising its rights. That doesn't make them dickheads (particularly in the case of the article's "secret deal", businesses aren't required to reveal that information so why would they?) and calling them that isn't going to do anything. If a law's broken you change the law, you don't get angry at people for using it.Feb 09 13:24
schestowitz"Feb 09 13:24
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 13:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpetsFeb 09 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 code contributions from across 30 founderFeb 09 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 members https://t.co/6yRweYX5OHFeb 09 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ibtimes.co.uk)Feb 09 13:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpets code contributions from across 30 founder membersFeb 09 13:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All SupportedFeb 09 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/ozWiTO9JOXFeb 09 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 13:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 09 13:24
schestowitzMisses the point that I denounce not only MSFT for this kind of aggressionFeb 09 13:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android vendors eyeing Ubuntu – Canonical chiefFeb 09 14:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/h3Fqu6QCa8Feb 09 14:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.mobileworldlive.com)Feb 09 14:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobileworldlive.com | Android vendors eyeing Ubuntu – Canonical chief - Mobile World LiveFeb 09 14:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/697146880216670208Feb 09 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: Amén too that ;) https://t.co/sLlQjByIWsFeb 09 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #internet as a free, emancipating, open expression platform is in a state of demise. Pressing "like" on #facebook "causes" isn't progress.Feb 09 14:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora 23 'Coral' Linux distro is finally hereFeb 09 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 -- Fedora for the rest of usFeb 09 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/upNh0ecPFa (betanews.com)Feb 09 15:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Korora 23 'Coral' Linux distro is finally here -- Fedora for the rest of usFeb 09 15:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KShutdown Review - Scheduled Shutdown,Feb 09 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Restarts, and Other Actions on LinuxFeb 09 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sJx08zMZtz (www.softpedia.com)Feb 09 15:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softpedia.com | KShutdown Review - Scheduled Shutdown, Restarts, and Other Actions on LinuxFeb 09 15:05
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 15:14
schestowitz"Feb 09 15:14
schestowitzIn that case, I will love Microsoft the moment they jettison their legal department. Just let me know.Feb 09 15:15
schestowitzMicrosoft functions as a large unit, you can't just look at only the engineering part.Feb 09 15:15
schestowitz"Feb 09 15:15
schestowitz"Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Saviour ZFS?"Feb 09 15:15
schestowitz"We just need to create the monopoly with our own superior formats, protocols, etc. In many places, that is happening. Microsoft (and apple) has certainly put computing back a few decades, though."Feb 09 15:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland Live OS Is Now Based On #DebianFeb 09 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Testing, Working #KDE #Wayland SupportFeb 09 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g1u6l23cfb (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 15:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland Live OS Is Now Based On Debian Testing, Working KDE Wayland Support - PhoronixFeb 09 15:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspbian Now Ships With Experimental SupportFeb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 For The New VC4 OpenGL DriverFeb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hig0QjXUi1 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Raspbian Now Ships With Experimental Support For The New VC4 OpenGL Driver - PhoronixFeb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best AndroidFeb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 tablet you can get under $200Feb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/l03hUmkcpM (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohz57Feb 09 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best Android tablet you can get under $200 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian-based Raspbian and RebeccaBlackOSFeb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bzcziwAvR1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohz58Feb 09 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-based Raspbian and RebeccaBlackOS | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 Truths About Working on a Community ProjectFeb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Inside an Open Source CompanyFeb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cWDwnVBgsZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohz6zFeb 09 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Truths About Working on a Community Project Inside an Open Source Company | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora 23 https://t.co/kUSsvlHJaeFeb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohz70Feb 09 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Korora 23 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large LinuxFeb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Workloads with IntegrityFeb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NunvBC4agN (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohz71Feb 09 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large Linux Workloads with Integrity | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Twelve robots that run LinuxFeb 09 16:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9aRykgOIGb (www.zdnet.com)Feb 09 16:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohze1Feb 09 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Twelve robots that run Linux | ZDNetFeb 09 16:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dying Light: The Following - Enhanced EditionFeb 09 16:19
TweetTuxMachines                 now available for Linux, texture issuesFeb 09 16:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/r1V41OwBUF (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 09 16:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohze2Feb 09 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Dying Light: The Following - Enhanced Edition now available for Linux, texture issues | GamingOnLinuxFeb 09 16:19
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KShutdown Review - Scheduled Shutdown, Restarts, and Other...'Feb 09 16:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firewatch, a first person mystery adventureFeb 09 16:38
TweetTuxMachines                 game released for Linux & SteamOSFeb 09 16:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g6MBvUlVXz (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 09 16:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzibFeb 09 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Firewatch, a first person mystery adventure game released for Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 09 16:38
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 16:41
schestowitz"They're lawyers, they don't have such thing as a conscience."Feb 09 16:41
schestowitz"The problems with Microsft are mostly lawyers and managers, afaik :("Feb 09 16:41
schestowitz"Nah, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's true. If the company wants to portray a certain image, somebody in the company certainly has the power to make that happen. What this tells me is that nobody in management actually cares or is interested in being friendly towards FOSS."Feb 09 16:41
schestowitz"Actually Microsoft is an interesting case study in adversarial departments, it doesn't function as a large unit so much as management unit riding herd on dozens of opposed project teams. It's never so blatantly obvious as when you set up Microsoft infrastructure, where it becomes utterly apparent that no one who built the software had anything to do with the people who decide which features are billable."Feb 09 16:41
schestowitz"Do it before hand. Inodes take space, it's understandable they aren't infinite. But it should be automatic."Feb 09 16:41
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44pzah/the_situation_of_discord_between_rlinux_moderators/Feb 09 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The situation of discord between r/linux moderators : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohzj4 ]Feb 09 16:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 - See What's NewFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/0FPYnHcN4h (www.youtube.com)Feb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzn9Feb 09 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Zorin OS 11 - See What's New - YouTubeFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Desktop Survey Project - Feb/2016 >Feb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Ty2wT2Cqu7 (www.prahladyeri.com)Feb 09 17:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Following KDE's "Simple by default, powerfulFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 when needed" design mantra, settings are split"Feb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OAjsYCKOhX (blogs.kde.org)Feb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohznbFeb 09 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.kde.org | HIG about Simple vs. Advanced Settings | blogs.kde.orgFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions OfFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 2015 https://t.co/uOPkwFAazVFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzncFeb 09 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions Of 2015 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Money In Open-Source SoftwareFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1uu9kM4YAm (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzndFeb 09 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Money In Open-Source Software | Tux MachinesFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux or GNU/Linux – Here is What Every UserFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Should Know. https://t.co/Er8UF0C79VFeb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 17:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzneFeb 09 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux or GNU/Linux – Here is What Every User Should Know. | Tux MachinesFeb 09 17:08
cubexyzAndroid uses libc from BSD? I didn't know thatFeb 09 17:10
cubexyzstandard C library bionic, with BSD licenseFeb 09 17:13
cubexyzok, there was one "distro" before Yggdrasil called MCC Interim LinuxFeb 09 17:15
cubexyzand primitive floppy disk images before thatFeb 09 17:16
cubexyzalso SLS (Softlanding Linux System) deserves a mentionFeb 09 17:17
cubexyzand SLS was before both Yggdrasil and MCCFeb 09 17:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Upgrading Bios Firmware from Linux SystemsFeb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Pioneered by Dell https://t.co/C2NL15OjNIFeb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzpjFeb 09 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Upgrading Bios Firmware from Linux Systems Pioneered by Dell | Tux MachinesFeb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed intoFeb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and MouseFeb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ce14dDOHnC (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzplFeb 09 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed into Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and Mouse | Tux MachinesFeb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     WOW, Wayland Over Wire! https://t.co/iGiorxzYcHFeb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (blogs.s-osg.org)Feb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzpmFeb 09 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.s-osg.org | WOW, Wayland Over Wire! - Samsung Open Source Group BlogFeb 09 17:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland Network Transparency Patches PublishedFeb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rUkYs4nJ2m (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzrkFeb 09 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland Network Transparency Patches Published - PhoronixFeb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NVIDIA 361.28 Linux Driver Released, MakesFeb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 GLVND Optional https://t.co/j9QPI4lXcmFeb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzrlFeb 09 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NVIDIA 361.28 Linux Driver Released, Makes GLVND Optional - PhoronixFeb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "exciting for anyone who wants a stable coreFeb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 system with a setup of KDE Plasma software onFeb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 to as recent as possible"Feb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eR5FcGFEb7 (notmart.org)Feb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzrmFeb 09 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-notmart.org | Some Neon Artwork | MartFeb 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best AndroidFeb 09 17:36
TweetTuxMachines                 tablet you can get under $200Feb 09 17:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jYj8uoqHyU (www.cio.com)Feb 09 17:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzscFeb 09 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best Android tablet you can get under $200 | CIOFeb 09 17:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large LinuxFeb 09 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Workloads with Integrity Feb 09 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/71UUEzIgbI (www.serverwatch.com)Feb 09 17:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzsdFeb 09 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.serverwatch.com | Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large Linux Workloads with IntegrityFeb 09 17:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core: quick screenshot tourFeb 09 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9Yau3ucBctFeb 09 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxblog.darkduck.com)Feb 09 17:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzseFeb 09 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Zorin OS 11 Core: quick screenshot tour - Linux notes from DarkDuckFeb 09 17:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions OfFeb 09 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 2015 https://t.co/v2e2R6vcBxFeb 09 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Feb 09 17:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohztmFeb 09 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions Of 2015 « Everyday Linux UserFeb 09 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed intoFeb 09 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and MouseFeb 09 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/O4psO8RKH4 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 09 17:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohztnFeb 09 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed into Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and MouseFeb 09 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation’s Core InfrastructureFeb 09 17:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Initiative Working with White House onFeb 09 17:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Cybersecurity National Action PlanFeb 09 17:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K8hOXHr5il (www.linux.com)Feb 09 17:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohztoFeb 09 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan | Linux.comFeb 09 17:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 SupportsFeb 09 17:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian 8.3 and Linux Mint 17.3Feb 09 17:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CQvnOdAVi6 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 17:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohztpFeb 09 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 Supports Debian 8.3 and Linux Mint 17.3Feb 09 17:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny, rugged Bay Trail COM has wide-range powerFeb 09 17:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PUFb5BUxaS (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 09 17:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzu7Feb 09 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tiny, rugged Bay Trail COM has wide-range power ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 09 17:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 Supports Debian...'Feb 09 17:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed into Mini...'Feb 09 17:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 & Nvidia - Are we gonna have a goodFeb 09 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 time?  https://t.co/3AajuZLJanFeb 09 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dedoimedo.com)Feb 09 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Fedora 23 & Nvidia - Are we gonna have a good time?Feb 09 18:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzwqFeb 09 18:02
*TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 Supports Debian...'Feb 09 18:02
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Upgrading Bios Firmware from Linux Systems Pioneered by...'Feb 09 18:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review of XCOM 2 On Linux; Welcome Back,Feb 09 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Commander https://t.co/2j0mRBxRHWFeb 09 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) Tweaking PerformanceFeb 09 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EfD1bJNzrf (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 09 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Review of XCOM 2 On Linux; Welcome Back, Commander - PhoronixFeb 09 18:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi015Feb 09 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Tweaking Performance in XCOM 2 | GamingOnLinuxFeb 09 18:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to FixFeb 09 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 the Infamous Mir Bug, Says CanonicalFeb 09 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9Ex5O9r7mw (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 18:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi016Feb 09 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to Fix the Infamous Mir Bug, Says CanonicalFeb 09 18:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to...'Feb 09 18:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation’s Core InfrastructureFeb 09 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Initiative Working with White House onFeb 09 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Cybersecurity National Action PlanFeb 09 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2DXOickfWb (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 18:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi022Feb 09 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan | Tux MachinesFeb 09 18:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leaner Docker https://t.co/CLY9A6M6kuFeb 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi05zFeb 09 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leaner Docker | Tux MachinesFeb 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to FixFeb 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines                 the Infamous Mir Bug, Says CanonicalFeb 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZwFpDpFV6p (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi060Feb 09 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to Fix the Infamous Mir Bug, Says Canonical | Tux MachinesFeb 09 18:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to...'Feb 09 19:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     InstallParty Phnom Penh https://t.co/L3enLskiszFeb 09 19:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (karl-tux-stadt.de)Feb 09 19:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi092Feb 09 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-karl-tux-stadt.de | Karl-Tux-Stadt » Blog Archi » InstallParty Phnom PenhFeb 09 19:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Studio 2.0 beta speeds up app restartsFeb 09 19:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/80LPs8kqyg (www.infoworld.com)Feb 09 19:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi093Feb 09 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Android Studio 2.0 beta speeds up app restarts | InfoWorldFeb 09 19:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Updates on GNOME CalculatorFeb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/RUF9kTtajGFeb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (siliconislandblog.wordpress.com)Feb 09 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconislandblog.wordpress.com | Updates on GNOME Calculator – Silicon IslandFeb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0e3Feb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/2A0GRf5M2jFeb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0e4Feb 09 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for NewcomersFeb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                 to Discover the Ubuntu FlavoursFeb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XkilJqcjlP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0e5Feb 09 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers to Discover the Ubuntu Flavours | Tux MachinesFeb 09 19:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/tRZk0GF5u6Feb 09 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 20:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0eqFeb 09 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, HasFeb 09 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Been Updated to Version 2.0.5Feb 09 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9JXbgxcqZ7 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 20:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0erFeb 09 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has Been Updated to Version 2.0.5 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/QmnTQ0cVRmFeb 09 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 20:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0esFeb 09 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:01
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers...'Feb 09 20:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has...'Feb 09 20:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 9/2/2016: Linux in Robotics, HyperledgerFeb 09 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Project https://t.co/0HtR172Qf8Feb 09 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 09 20:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mfFeb 09 20:52
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 9/2/2016: Linux in Robotics, Hyperledger Project https://t.co/0HtR172Qf8'Feb 09 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/2/2016: Linux in Robotics, Hyperledger Project | TechrightsFeb 09 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PlaybackPopover and Music viewsFeb 09 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2VDABfem0D (jordanaluft.com)Feb 09 20:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mgFeb 09 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jordanaluft.com | PlaybackPopover and Music views – Jordana LuftFeb 09 20:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for NewcomersFeb 09 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 to Discover the Ubuntu FlavoursFeb 09 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g8X9mR9qxJ (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 20:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mhFeb 09 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers to Discover the Ubuntu FlavoursFeb 09 20:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, HasFeb 09 20:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Been Updated to Version 2.0.5Feb 09 20:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sgTnkPige7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 20:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mtFeb 09 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has Been Updated to Version 2.0.5Feb 09 20:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rosa Is a Real PowerhouseFeb 09 20:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pb6uEJ1W19 (www.linuxinsider.com)Feb 09 20:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0muFeb 09 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Rosa Is a Real Powerhouse | Reviews | LinuxInsiderFeb 09 20:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mentor Embedded Linux adds SMACK security andFeb 09 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 IoT support https://t.co/oGpYYGb10EFeb 09 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 09 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Mentor Embedded Linux adds SMACK security and IoT support ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 09 20:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0n0Feb 09 20:57
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cubexyzOk, new blog post... this time it's about Vector Linux 7.1 Light:Feb 09 21:16
cubexyzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2016/02/vector-linux-71-light.htmlFeb 09 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.com | Notes on Linux: Vector Linux 7.1 Light [ http://ur1.ca/oi0pp ]Feb 09 21:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turning Open Source into a #Multicore StandardFeb 09 21:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YLEFA4236k (www.eetimes.com)Feb 09 21:59
TweetTuxMachines                 "combination of (embedded) Linux functionalityFeb 09 21:59
TweetTuxMachines                 and RTOS performance."Feb 09 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eetimes.com | Turning Open Source into a Multicore Standard | EE TimesFeb 09 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel Space: Graphics https://t.co/io57eKkahiFeb 10 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 01:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi1svFeb 10 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 10 01:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/CCZjOM8ofdFeb 10 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 01:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 10 01:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Firefox 46 Web Browser to Finally BringFeb 10 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Smoother Scrolling to LinuxFeb 10 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Dj19vmBuX7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 04:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2hdFeb 10 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mozilla Firefox 46 Web Browser to Finally Bring Smoother Scrolling to LinuxFeb 10 04:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker as a High-Performance Enabler for ServerFeb 10 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Storage https://t.co/EA0WF4rjW2Feb 10 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.enterprisetech.com)Feb 10 04:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2heFeb 10 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisetech.com | Docker as a High-Performance Enabler for Cloud StorageFeb 10 04:13
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Docker as a High-Performance Enabler for Server Storage...'Feb 10 04:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://t.co/Dj19vmBuX7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 04:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker: “We have hired Natanael Copa, theFeb 10 04:19
TweetTuxMachines                 awesome creator of Alpine Linux”Feb 10 04:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KVxVtuWhtS (www.pcworld.com)Feb 10 04:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2igFeb 10 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Is Docker ditching Ubuntu Linux? Confusion reigns | PCWorldFeb 10 04:19
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Firefox 46 Web Browser to Finally Bring...'Feb 10 04:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Second Rygel Media Server 0.30 Dev Release HasFeb 10 04:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Improvements for Samsung TVsFeb 10 04:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hkXq6fKARq (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 04:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2kvFeb 10 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Second Rygel Media Server 0.30 Dev Release Has Improvements for Samsung TVsFeb 10 04:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release CandidateFeb 10 04:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase https://t.co/8Bt3E0i43EFeb 10 04:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 10 04:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2kwFeb 10 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release Candidate Phase - PhoronixFeb 10 04:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arch Anywhere – An easy way to install a fullyFeb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines                 custom Arch Linux systemFeb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YYAZX9peHc (www.ostechnix.com)Feb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2l5Feb 10 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ostechnix.com | Arch Anywhere – An easy way to install a fully custom Arch Linux system | OSTechNixFeb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian-Based RebeccaBlackOS Wayland Live CDFeb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Gets the Enlightenment 0.20 DesktopFeb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yC0INCaUOu (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2l6Feb 10 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based RebeccaBlackOS Wayland Live CD Gets the Enlightenment 0.20 Desktop | Tux MachinesFeb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release CandidateFeb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase https://t.co/8gMabfKC0MFeb 10 04:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 04:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2l7Feb 10 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release Candidate Phase | Tux MachinesFeb 10 04:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OSFeb 10 04:41
TweetTuxMachines                 adoption https://t.co/cBkn3tGcbfFeb 10 04:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 04:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2liFeb 10 04:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OS adoption | Tux MachinesFeb 10 04:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SourceForge Loses DevShareFeb 10 04:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZjaOBHchbG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 04:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2lkFeb 10 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SourceForge Loses DevShare | Tux MachinesFeb 10 04:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turning Open Source into a Multicore StandardFeb 10 04:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Bg090daaSB (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 04:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2llFeb 10 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Turning Open Source into a Multicore Standard | Tux MachinesFeb 10 04:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware Live 0.5.1, 1.0 on Its WayFeb 10 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IZIakbLEcS (ostatic.com)Feb 10 04:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2ntFeb 10 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Slackware Live 0.5.1, 1.0 on Its WayFeb 10 04:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Overview of Linux Desktop EnvironmentsFeb 10 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sjqNpZXJju (it.toolbox.com)Feb 10 04:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2nuFeb 10 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.toolbox.com | Overview of Linux Desktop EnviornmentsFeb 10 04:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet Zorin OS 11 – Video Overview andFeb 10 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Screenshot tours  https://t.co/mK7mUeu6ZGFeb 10 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxscoop.com)Feb 10 04:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2nvFeb 10 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | Meet Zorin OS 11 - Video Overview and Screenshot tours - Linux ScoopFeb 10 04:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026354Feb 10 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #internet has made people more dependent on or engaged to various entities than newspapers ever did. Can't swap things easily with 'cloud'.Feb 10 05:10
schestowitz"There’s more invasion of privacy, but FB and friends are basically like broadcast TV. Even the joindiaspora hub gives me the creeps. They control mental input in exactly the same way newspapers and broadcast did. It’s a little worse because people think of FB like a post service they can’t do without, and it both spies and customizes the propaganda flow as an injection in people’s ordinary conversations. The net result is much like Feb 10 05:10
schestowitzold media - the AP model man had 15 minutes a day for news, got whatever summary AP put out. FB model man will get about the same flow of thought crushing cliches, and bullshit."Feb 10 05:10
schestowitzyes, big problemFeb 10 05:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026830Feb 10 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/884701-the-linux-foundations-core-infrastructure-initiative-working-with-white-house-on-cybersecurity-national-action-plan/Feb 10 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/oi2ps ]Feb 10 05:13
schestowitz"With Microsoft in the Linux Foundation, I don’t think it’s my security they care about. It’s more likely their ability to violate me.'Feb 10 05:13
schestowitz> "As a result, it’s “inevitable” Russia will switch state networks fromFeb 10 05:32
schestowitz> Windows to an open-source system based on Linux, a move 22,000 municipalFeb 10 05:32
schestowitz> governments are prepared to make immediately"Feb 10 05:32
schestowitz> Feb 10 05:32
schestowitz> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-09/putin-s-new-internet-czar-joins-hunt-for-google-apple-taxesFeb 10 05:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bloomberg.com | Putin's New Internet Czar Wants Apple and Google to Pay More Taxes - Bloomberg Business [ http://ur1.ca/oi2rs ]Feb 10 05:32
schestowitz> Feb 10 05:32
schestowitz> We've heard this before.  Will it actually happen this time?  Keep inFeb 10 05:32
schestowitz> mind now GNU/Linux has NSA's systemdFeb 10 05:32
schestowitzsystemd is Red hat's. Red Hat is an NSA ally. But even bearing in mind the phoronix articles, I wouldn't leap into saying "NSA's systemd"Feb 10 05:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OSFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 adoption https://t.co/KWD6HDG9jf (www.cio.com)Feb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2sfFeb 10 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OS adoption | CIOFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Simple tips for making your Android phone moreFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 secure https://t.co/lt6A2o6PoO (bgr.com)Feb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2shFeb 10 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Android security tips and tricks: Google’s four recommendations | BGRFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines@SiriusCorp      Due to our Drupal work expanding hugely in theFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 UK Government space we're looking for moreFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Drupalists to join the Sirius team! contact us!Feb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2siFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "it’s “inevitable” #Russia will switch stateFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 networks fromFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows to an open-source system based onFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux" https://t.co/FWql54r0zmFeb 10 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bloomberg.com)Feb 10 05:35
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Second Rygel Media Server 0.30 Dev Release Has...'Feb 10 07:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/MW3wxmIOhaFeb 10 09:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi3oeFeb 10 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:29
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/MW3wxmIOha'Feb 10 09:29
*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/MW3wxmIOha'Feb 10 09:29
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/697430603692666880Feb 10 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @schestowitz indoctrination, more like...Feb 10 09:48
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r_schestowitzMaybe stating this publicly will make them shy away, or maybe I'm too optimisticFeb 10 09:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Using the Latest LinuxFeb 10 10:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 4.4.1 https://t.co/gleL6rj0IoFeb 10 10:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 10:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi438Feb 10 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Using the Latest Linux Kernel 4.4.1Feb 10 10:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: Manjaro-ARM Linux on the Raspberry PiFeb 10 10:46
TweetTuxMachines                 2 https://t.co/lFcet8AlMh (www.zdnet.com)Feb 10 10:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi439Feb 10 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-on: Manjaro-ARM Linux on the Raspberry Pi 2 | ZDNetFeb 10 10:46
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MinceRhttp://fusion.net/interactive/210905/lalo-alcaraz-world-map-according-to-donald-trump/Feb 10 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fusion.net | A map of the world according to Donald Trump | Fusion [ http://ur1.ca/oi4rf ]Feb 10 12:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Using the Latest...'Feb 10 13:55
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LinuxSocist/status/697354093614993409Feb 10 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxSocist: Windows 10 spies on you despite disabling tracking options or installing anti-spying app https://t.co/b5VMwcigKp @schestowitzFeb 10 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techworm.net | Windows 10 spies on you despite disabling tracking options or installing anti-spying app » TechWormFeb 10 15:43
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CapitanManuel1/status/697235179283189760Feb 10 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CapitanManuel1: De nada le ha servido la revolución a los cubanos.....El fracaso es total....nada sirve y nada funciona. #Cuba https://t.co/pIgxgaBAlvFeb 10 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Battistelli in #Cuba https://t.co/rxen2R1wmE #epoFeb 10 15:45
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/evernewecon/status/697200275350654976Feb 10 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@evernewecon: my prior: 100% real. any chance, Cambridge? (the nephew I'm asking.) https://t.co/6ZwPESwSOvFeb 10 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Reactions to #nsa calling/rebranding its cracking/offence "defence" https://t.co/NAgYcrGvmh https://t.co/kRYbUxjo1t https://t.co/EH14d7G87hFeb 10 15:45
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/697200323107000320Feb 10 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: Holy shit! I used to read these in the library when I didn't have a computer https://t.co/rhqkNX9NgiFeb 10 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "UK publishing house Usborne is giving out its iconic 1980s programming books as free downloads." https://t.co/rDYGJ3RRaIFeb 10 15:45
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/697198453726642176Feb 10 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Then what is the "in-house processor" good for? https://t.co/iAUl3Mab4JFeb 10 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @FrancisJeffrey7 Google won't compete on hardware...Feb 10 15:46
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/697197215077392385Feb 10 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz GOOD if its real competition with Intel. BAD if it's on a leash.Feb 10 15:46
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r_schestowitzMinceR: funny, sharedFeb 10 15:48
r_schestowitzall refer to statements he madeFeb 10 15:48
r_schestowitzKim K, Mexicans...Feb 10 15:48
r_schestowitzand his bankruptciesFeb 10 15:48
r_schestowitzso it's a good summary simplifying his brain damageFeb 10 15:49
r_schestowitzWatch http://trumpthemovie.com/watch/Feb 10 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trumpthemovie.com | Trump: What's the Deal?Watch the FilmFeb 10 15:49
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697468274322378752Feb 10 16:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @IPRsLaw @lessig technical independence of cyberspace? Freenet?Feb 10 16:00
TweetTuxMachines@Durga_Karma     The Michael Daily News byFeb 10 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8L9GwMtRr0Feb 10 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (michael.lr-partner.com) wurde soebenFeb 10 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 publiziert! https://t.co/gfCLUzuqP9 (paper.li)Feb 10 16:32
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TweetTuxMachines                 Vielen Dank an @tuxmachines @MaditaKohrtFeb 10 16:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Using the Latest LinuxFeb 10 16:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LibreOffice 5.1 Officially Released withFeb 10 16:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Redesigned User Interface, New FeaturesFeb 10 16:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 5.1 Officially Released with Redesigned User Interface, New Features | Tux MachinesFeb 10 16:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: Manjaro-ARM Linux on the Raspberry PiFeb 10 16:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why open source can save companies fromFeb 10 16:33
TweetTuxMachines                 drowning in the data lakeFeb 10 16:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why open source can save companies from drowning in the data lake | Tux MachinesFeb 10 16:33
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cubexyzwow, there's talk of making windows stop working if there's no internet connectionFeb 10 16:50
cubexyzforced subscription modelFeb 10 16:50
cubexyzanyway, I figured it was coming. Adobe does that for CS6Feb 10 16:54
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/697532351933456385Feb 10 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@angrymofo: @schestowitz I can't think of a single reason why I would ever require a 'smart fridge' and I'm a tech guy.Feb 10 17:21
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/697536500657995776Feb 10 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: When #UK secret service only recruited from Oxbridge: "#MI5 brings homosexuals in from cold" https://t.co/kQhnkWWUtz https://t.co/jPoVPQAv9iFeb 10 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | So what's new about gay spies? | Voices | The IndependentFeb 10 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: For those who are not aware yet, spies like to #blackmail people to become their assets/moles. They say, join us, play ball, or go to jail.Feb 10 17:22
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/maramala/status/697540988928045056Feb 10 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maramala: Yet famous terrorist accounts & well-known troll personalities not only stay online, they get a Verified mark. https://t.co/jdgCNQE6CyFeb 10 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: First they came for the "terrorists", then they came for the "trolls".. how long before I too will be considered/classified too provocative?Feb 10 17:22
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r_schestowitzcubexyz: just linked to your review in some placesFeb 10 17:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Is Getting Its Fourth UpdateFeb 10 18:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical in Talks with Android OEM PartnersFeb 10 18:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nouveau Linux 4.5 vs. NVIDIA OpenGLFeb 10 18:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical releases Snappy Ubuntu Core LinuxFeb 10 18:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 15.12 (Capella) Gets Pacman 5 SupportFeb 10 18:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.5 Hotfix on Its Way to FixFeb 10 18:23
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697562463022219264Feb 10 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz FFII famous stickerFeb 10 18:29
r_schestowitzyes, that's how I knowFeb 10 18:29
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697562585131065344Feb 10 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz I wanted to print them all and take a picture.Feb 10 18:29
r_schestowitzLook for a photo on the Internet of paper piles, see what number of papers is stated (maybe flat packed), post with captionFeb 10 18:30
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697562585131065344Feb 10 18:30
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/697563537896574976Feb 10 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz @retroDoomer @mashable @twitter so why are you still here? No alternative? Ah, welcome to the club?Feb 10 18:34
r_schestowitzI'm in joindiaspora, it spews out copies to twitterFeb 10 18:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Desktop: Good News and Bad NewsFeb 10 18:35
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/697568303380738048Feb 10 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @jwildeboer @mashable @twitter I'm certain I joined Diaspora a while ago. Thoughts on 'ello?Feb 10 18:51
r_schestowitzDid you find me on there. Jan used to be quite active there but stopped.Feb 10 18:51
r_schestowitz*there?Feb 10 18:52
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7029223Feb 10 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prepare for #twitter to start deleting tweets and banning users for what politicians dub "hate speech", sometimes anti-migrant positions.Feb 10 19:01
r_schestowitz"woow"Feb 10 19:01
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/johnnysunshine/status/697582884761137152Feb 10 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnnysunshine: @schestowitz @rbanffy this industry has short memories ; we're at the "embrace" stage of embrace, extend, extinguishFeb 10 19:51
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cubexyzI don't think there's much danger of Microsoft absorbing Linux Feb 10 20:01
cubexyzwe got slackware, the BSDs, ChromeOS, even ReactOSFeb 10 20:02
cubexyzthe Russians might even be putting more effort into ReactOSFeb 10 20:02
MinceRredcrap will do it for themFeb 10 20:22
MinceRand then m$ will shoot them in the back with uefiFeb 10 20:22
MinceRor buy themFeb 10 20:22
cubexyzLinux is like a hydra Feb 10 20:23
MinceRhail hydra!Feb 10 20:25
cubexyz:)Feb 10 20:25
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/uefi.txtFeb 10 20:31
cubexyzI'm not sure what to recommend for non-UEFI motherboard beyond chromebook/chromeboxFeb 10 20:32
cubexyzI might just buy a chromebox and put crouton on itFeb 10 20:32
cubexyzif an OEM actually started shipping coreboot, I'd probably consider thatFeb 10 20:33
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TruthYoda/status/697599206270246912Feb 10 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TruthYoda: @schestowitz @EnVogueRogue You should use the TwitLonger website to post the tweet to solve that issue.Feb 10 20:54
r_schestowitza workaround onlyFeb 10 20:54
oiaohmcubexyz: really I find it annoying.  Amd announce in 2011 that all boards in design stages would supprot coreboot result there are a lot of AMD boards out there.   Issue is AMD cpus are running way to hot.Feb 10 20:55
MinceRput a cooler on it :>Feb 10 20:57
cubexyzone of the I3's is very low TDPFeb 10 20:58
MinceR(though that might be why we don't see a lot of amd laptops :/ )Feb 10 20:58
cubexyzmy chromebook doesn't even get warmFeb 10 20:59
cubexyzon the other hand, my oldish acer with AMD something heats up a lotFeb 10 20:59
oiaohmMinceR: hit it straight on.  Until AMD get there heat problem fixed what is mostly get production down nm they are not going to be that usable in laptops.  Even large servers it a worry.Feb 10 20:59
cubexyzif the cpu fan fails it's shutdown timeFeb 10 20:59
oiaohmPersonally I would love to buy AMD but I live in hot areas without air-conditioning so I must keep thermal down. Feb 10 21:01
oiaohmWorst room temp I have had is 47C.Feb 10 21:01
MinceRwhy no AC?Feb 10 21:01
oiaohmAC is 1 very high on the power consume.  2 if you need to go outside quickly you don't need to be suffering from thermal shock.Feb 10 21:03
oiaohm47C came from shipping containers placed in wrong location focusing the sun.Feb 10 21:04
oiaohmYes I was thinking room is getting hot.Feb 10 21:04
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cubexyzsome router attacks.. smurf attacks :-/Feb 10 22:00
cubexyzit's world-wide too I reckonFeb 10 22:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE Tumbleweed Users Get systemd 228, GCCFeb 10 22:07
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    5.3.1, Firefox 44.0, and New YaSTFeb 10 22:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Tumbleweed Users Get systemd 228, GCC 5.3.1, Firefox 44.0, and New YaST | Tux MachinesFeb 10 22:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Microsoft Continues to Use Software #PatentsFeb 10 22:07
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies ThatFeb 10 22:07
TweetTuxMachines @SteelersRule07  Use #Linux https://t.co/nIep6mKz2uFeb 10 22:07
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cubexyzoiaohm, do you know of any way to defend against router attacks?Feb 10 22:38
cubexyzseems like my dlink is getting clobbered once a week Feb 10 22:38
oiaohmcubexyz: really is not defend.   I use wifi and adsl modem as two parts.   wifi router takes open source firmware so I can keep it upto date.Feb 10 22:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Devices https://t.co/WKVO6cw4q8Feb 10 23:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/t18dtcbraIFeb 10 23:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LibreOffice 5.1 Release CelebratedFeb 11 00:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/eT4uEGTcLkFeb 11 00:27
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/697669635014008832Feb 11 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rbanffy: @antoniofonseca @johnnysunshine @schestowitz you know how the proverb "try to kill me once, shame on you; try to kill me twice, shame on me"Feb 11 04:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697680688280162304Feb 11 04:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Is Spain objecting to the up(c) because of the way the epo president is treating some Spanish nationals?Feb 11 04:03
schestowitzNo, because of language and other factors, will write about itFeb 11 04:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697681842598707200Feb 11 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz I doubt @ipkat is scared. Let's see how they cover the meeting of the administration council with the judges.Feb 11 04:04
schestowitzI just said, they don't cover these matters as frequently as beforeFeb 11 04:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697709306272223232Feb 11 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz HTC is paying Apple. Samsung has paid damages and Apple is seeking more. Plus, injunction requests...Feb 11 04:13
schestowitzDoes Apple uses its patents to force people to defect to Apple apps?Feb 11 04:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lumo release date set for April on PC, Mac andFeb 11 04:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux  https://t.co/XoIVyhhgGkFeb 11 04:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurogamer.net | Lumo release date set for April on PC, Mac and Linux • Eurogamer.netFeb 11 04:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Classic Platformer Sequel N++ Is Coming To PCFeb 11 04:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ry5tKvu3bd (www.siliconera.com)Feb 11 04:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TTT96a5j6Q (www.highdefdigest.com)Feb 11 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.siliconera.com | Classic Platformer Sequel N++ Is Coming To PC - SiliconeraFeb 11 04:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.highdefdigest.com | 'N++' Headed to Steam for PC, Mac, & Linux | High-Def DigestFeb 11 04:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697668200427888640  https://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/697669635014008832Feb 11 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I understand your dislike of that revenue generation strategy, but they merely take advantage of broken system, stupid payers.Feb 11 04:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697710787050266624Feb 11 04:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz different storyFeb 11 04:18
schestowitzI find Microsoft'a approach a lot worse, and it goes beyond phonesFeb 11 04:18
*TweetTuxMachines @Toxicity515 favourited 'Classic Platformer Sequel N++ Is Coming To PC...'Feb 11 04:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Has No Plans on Ditching Ubuntu inFeb 11 04:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Favour of Alpine Linux https://t.co/D0ggYybHzuFeb 11 04:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) the original report wasFeb 11 04:18
TweetTuxMachines                 always dubious-soundingFeb 11 04:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Docker Has No Plans on Ditching Ubuntu in Favour of Alpine Linux - ReportFeb 11 04:18
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schestowitz*Microsoft'sFeb 11 04:19
schestowitzRemember what Microsoft did with Novell, for instance, as I hope you remember all the pertinent details of the dealFeb 11 04:19
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697713193674735616Feb 11 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz A lot worse depends on focus. Re. injunctions, Apple the bigger problem. I'd like more companies to defend themselves in court.Feb 11 04:28
schestowitzMicrosoft took Samsung to court and this is more or less or this new strategy started....Feb 11 04:28
schestowitzI can hypothetise @horaciog goes to companies that sell Android and says, look what we did to Samsung, just do as we tell youFeb 11 04:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697715789248532481Feb 11 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It's a complex issue since those companies have previously distributed MSFT software. Apple has different biz strategy.Feb 11 04:39
schestowitzSo because they used Windows before it's OK for MS & @horaciog to pressure them to still use Microsoft, using #swpats threats?Feb 11 04:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026510Feb 11 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Clueless #microsoft cannot sell desktops anymore (nosediving market), thinks it's 2009 all over again http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/08/remember_netbooks_windows_10_makes_them_good_again/Feb 11 04:43
schestowitz"If that’s true, how long can it last?"Feb 11 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Remember Netbooks? Windows 10 makes them good again! • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oi2om ]Feb 11 04:43
schestowitzThey have a new strategy now, involving patents and concessions on patent feesFeb 11 04:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026205Feb 11 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dell Firmware Updating under Linux http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/b/techcenter/archive/2016/02/02/dell-firmware-updating-under-linux #dell #linuxFeb 11 04:43
schestowitz"All UEFI can “upgrade” their firmware without OS intervention. That’s worth avoiding."Feb 11 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.community.dell.com | Dell Firmware Updating under Linux [ http://ur1.ca/oi2os ]Feb 11 04:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697718705065762816   https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697718984800600064Feb 11 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz You did not just sat it was less frequent. You suggested it was because of threats of legal action. @IpkatFeb 11 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz But less frequent can be for many reasons, and I suggest that the coverage of that rather important meeting... @IpkatFeb 11 04:49
schestowitzGiven some time I could gather numbers to support my claim that articles about EPO, esp. negative articles, reduced in numberFeb 11 04:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697719084746727424Feb 11 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz ... Might give us a clue. @IpkatFeb 11 04:51
schestowitzThere are many other topics that could be covered, such as the trip to Cuba (got translations today)Feb 11 04:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697719911725006848Feb 11 04:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz I don't doubt there are less articles. I doubt @Ipkat is afraid.Feb 11 04:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     This allowed some Android apps to run onFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 BlackBerry 10" https://t.co/c84SEWiDj9Feb 11 07:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | BlackBerry 10 users receive update to Android Runtime to fix bugFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android root malware widespread in third-partyFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 app stores https://t.co/CuRmcIptbRFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.cio.com)Feb 11 07:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Android root malware widespread in third-party app stores | CIOFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HPE Introduces Linux Server for Data AnalyticsFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 and Real-Time Computing https://t.co/7uJY98rOhIFeb 11 07:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HPE Introduces Linux Server for Data Analytics and Real-Time Computing | Tux MachinesFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source demonstrates the future of workFeb 11 07:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source demonstrates the future of work | Tux MachinesFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Has No Plans to Ditch Ubuntu in Favor ofFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Alpine Linux - Report https://t.co/LsMhmL3IuKFeb 11 07:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker Has No Plans to Ditch Ubuntu in Favor of Alpine Linux - Report | Tux MachinesFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Flavors Prepare for TheirFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 First "Xenial Xerus" Beta ReleaseFeb 11 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8DM8edZzhx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 07:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Flavors Prepare for Their First "Xenial Xerus" Beta Release | Tux MachinesFeb 11 07:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cisco Openwashing https://t.co/Rtp6KhO8qiFeb 11 07:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cisco Openwashing | Tux MachinesFeb 11 07:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Flavors Prepare for TheirFeb 11 07:11
TweetTuxMachines                 First "Xenial Xerus" Beta ReleaseFeb 11 07:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mtl2cWgJbm (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 11 07:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HmOnXvsJ9a (www.mobipicker.com)Feb 11 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Flavors Prepare for Their First "Xenial Xerus" Beta ReleaseFeb 11 07:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobipicker.com | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS To Get Fourth Point Update On February 18 | MobiPickerFeb 11 07:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Putin's internet guru says 'nyet' to Windows,Feb 11 07:12
TweetTuxMachines                 'da' to desktop Linux https://t.co/eVqzf0wkEhFeb 11 07:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Feb 11 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Putin's internet guru says 'nyet' to Windows, 'da' to desktop Linux • The RegisterFeb 11 07:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-ready dev board beats BeagleBoard-X15 toFeb 11 07:12
TweetTuxMachines                 the AM5728 https://t.co/hqI9Mp8KiKFeb 11 07:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 11 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linux-ready dev board beats BeagleBoard-X15 to the AM5728 ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 11 07:12
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Flavors Prepare for Their First...'Feb 11 07:12
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Flavors Prepare for Their First...'Feb 11 07:12
XRevan86Never say "nyet" when you can say "n'et" %).Feb 11 07:13
schestowitznot yet ;-)Feb 11 07:17
schestowitzI once made a comical image of ZD NyetFeb 11 07:18
schestowitzto basically say, don't trust CBS-owned ZDNetFeb 11 07:18
schestowitzIt's still in some articles in techrightsFeb 11 07:18
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNetFeb 11 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/d50sx ]Feb 11 07:18
XRevan86> Firefox can't find techrights.org server.Feb 11 07:21
XRevan86oh come onFeb 11 07:21
schestowitzhmmm...Feb 11 07:21
schestowitzretryFeb 11 07:21
schestowitzor maybe I upset ValdFeb 11 07:21
schestowitz*VladFeb 11 07:21
XRevan86Now it worked…Feb 11 07:21
schestowitzOK, I saw such glitches beforeFeb 11 07:21
schestowitzAs long as it's not too frequent an issue, I won't panic... and it seems to relate to DNS or nameserver if anythingFeb 11 07:22
XRevan86schestowitz: It's just wierd.Feb 11 07:22
schestowitzor maybe varnish being weird, not sure...Feb 11 07:22
XRevan86Wait, this wiki article is on www.techrights.org <http://www.techrights.org>, and links go to techrights.orgFeb 11 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rightsFeb 11 07:23
XRevan86Maybe it is DNS.Feb 11 07:23
XRevan86(wiki loaded at once and then following linked resulted in an error)Feb 11 07:24
XRevan86schestowitz: What I initially wanted to say is that English tend to put "y"'s everywhere while pronouncing Russian words, and that just doesn't sound right.Feb 11 07:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mrjeremylcoope1/status/697760263399985152Feb 11 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mrjeremylcoope1: RT @openlyclassist: On most android phones it's not obvious how to remove the factory installed version, but you c… https://t.co/b3Sj4wyLA2Feb 11 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @openlyclassist Need to delete rather than disable (if there such a mode?)Feb 11 07:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/697761160393838592Feb 11 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz If they stopped using Google Apps & setup an #OpenSource communication platform on #OpenStack it would be even better.Feb 11 07:39
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schestowitzmeh, BS new page: https://opensource.com/resources/careers-open-source-2016Feb 11 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Careers in Open Source series | Opensource.comFeb 11 07:47
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker Has No Plans to Ditch Ubuntu in...'Feb 11 07:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Updates the All-Snap Snappy UbuntuFeb 11 07:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Images to Remove Misplaced SSH KeyFeb 11 07:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lW7q6zxPLC (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 07:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Updates the All-Snap Snappy Ubuntu Images to Remove Misplaced SSH KeyFeb 11 07:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker Has No Plans on Ditching Ubuntu in...'Feb 11 07:54
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Updates the All-Snap Snappy Ubuntu Images to...'Feb 11 08:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Blackberry Priv review: Finally succumbs toFeb 11 08:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Android, and does well! https://t.co/lHG7pavtUNFeb 11 08:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (economictimes.indiatimes.com)Feb 11 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economictimes.indiatimes.com | Blackberry Priv review: Finally succumbs to Android, and does well! - The Economic TimesFeb 11 08:02
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*TweetTuxMachines @avidlygotbackup favourited 'BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live...'Feb 11 08:15
*TweetTuxMachines @avidlygotbackup favourited 'BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live...'Feb 11 08:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source in the enterprise bringsFeb 11 08:15
TweetTuxMachines                 opportunities and challengesFeb 11 08:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4Ev5H0mmZL (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 08:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source in the enterprise brings opportunities and challenges | Tux MachinesFeb 11 08:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HMRC and FOSS https://t.co/Tc03juJIVEFeb 11 08:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 08:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HMRC and FOSS | Tux MachinesFeb 11 08:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System to Get a Much SmallerFeb 11 08:16
TweetTuxMachines                 ISO https://t.co/i1eLA51bHpFeb 11 08:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 08:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System to Get a Much Smaller ISO | Tux MachinesFeb 11 08:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2Feb 11 08:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rIiManrDlJ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 08:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 11 08:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Researchers release open source code forFeb 11 08:17
TweetTuxMachines                 powerful image detection algorithmFeb 11 08:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/H0sXj9f0a4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 08:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Researchers release open source code for powerful image detection algorithm | Tux MachinesFeb 11 08:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Operating System to Get a Much Smaller...'Feb 11 08:17
schestowitz> #Wed Feb 10 19:57:05 PST 2016Feb 11 08:43
schestowitz> Feb 11 08:43
schestowitz> Dear bro,Feb 11 08:43
schestowitz> Feb 11 08:43
schestowitz> Here goes the requested work.Feb 11 08:43
schestowitz> Feb 11 08:43
schestowitz> Have a nice Thursday. Have a coffee on my name.Feb 11 08:43
schestowitzI'll ask my wife. She doesn't like it when I take caffeine, unless it's in tea...Feb 11 08:43
schestowitz>> http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/cuba/2016-01-22/suscribiran-oficinas-de-patentes-memorando-de-entendimiento/Feb 11 08:44
schestowitz> OK bro!Feb 11 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juventudrebelde.cu | Suscribirán oficinas de patentes memorando de entendimiento - Cuba - Juventud Rebelde - Diario de la juventud cubana [ http://ur1.ca/oi0gq ]Feb 11 08:44
schestowitz> Here it goes bro:Feb 11 08:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 08:46
schestowitz> mep_ana_gomes_vs_epo_abusesFeb 11 08:46
schestowitz> upc_politics_exposedFeb 11 08:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 08:46
schestowitz> I'll work on your request after these.Feb 11 08:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 08:46
schestowitz> I have ben working with Boris so hard, Thanks God he's picking up doing hisFeb 11 08:46
schestowitz> homework, I just needed to sit down next to him and he did it. Hard work butFeb 11 08:46
schestowitz> it's paying offFeb 11 08:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 08:46
schestowitz> RegardsFeb 11 08:46
schestowitzI will start with the Spanish lang articles, as usual in the morning/afternoon-Feb 11 08:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi...'Feb 11 08:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 11/2/2016: LibreOffice 5.1, HMRC and FOSSFeb 11 08:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1P97RJ4ZYU (techrights.org)Feb 11 08:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/2/2016: LibreOffice 5.1, HMRC and FOSS | TechrightsFeb 11 08:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/teusink/status/697784535765938177Feb 11 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@teusink: @schestowitz @teusink @All4Privacy Is the message or social graph shared? What does the privacy policy states? (not read it tbh..)Feb 11 09:09
schestowitzSee what Twitter did in the case of WikileaksFeb 11 09:10
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_IndonesiaFeb 11 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of massacres in Indonesia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oiag4 ]Feb 11 09:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/teusink/status/697784911894282244Feb 11 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@teusink: @schestowitz @teusink @All4Privacy You know if it was court-ordered?Feb 11 09:20
schestowitzIt wasFeb 11 09:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SpeedwayFloozy/status/697788246005252099Feb 11 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpeedwayFloozy: @schestowitz Set up and run by a #sociopath wanting to make decisions for #all you expected less while working in his #free #content #mines?Feb 11 09:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/dlHBLPtxbiFeb 11 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 09:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 11 09:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/aGmFkf6yUXFeb 11 09:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 11 09:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating SupportFeb 11 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 with Help from Ubuntu DevFeb 11 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oxx8a6LB29 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 09:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating Support with Help from Ubuntu Dev | Tux MachinesFeb 11 09:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails installer is now in DebianFeb 11 09:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/V7jERF2uSu (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 09:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails installer is now in Debian | Tux MachinesFeb 11 09:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Certified SystemFeb 11 09:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de RianchoFeb 11 09:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/671r2Ghuv8 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 09:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de Riancho | Tux MachinesFeb 11 09:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/697790342217756672Feb 11 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: ...or because someone has paid for censoring them. https://t.co/GKabVwwEwUFeb 11 09:50
schestowitzPoliticians and countries that threaten to ban Twitter (and sometimes do), as well...Feb 11 09:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SpeedwayFloozy/status/697790885539540997Feb 11 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpeedwayFloozy: @schestowitz It's the 21st Century #Robberbaron mentality and the minions it molds ( #Andreessen )- #jumpship from #abusive #badtechFeb 11 09:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/697805776786743297Feb 11 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Maybe also corporate organizations and institutions to bust whistleblowers ...Feb 11 10:36
schestowitzWould love to see evidence of it, except Wikileaks-TwitterFeb 11 10:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/697806765824610308Feb 11 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz So far only circumstantial, I guess.Feb 11 10:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lumina Desktop Getting Ready for FreeBSD 11.0Feb 11 11:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026510Feb 11 11:22
schestowitz"Feb 11 11:22
schestowitzThe strategy always revolves around making their software look competitive. File systems, boot loaders, firmware, are all promoted to promote Windows. Their software patent extortion will try to push those things onto companies with the hope of forcing people back to Windows. Sooner or later the extortion game is going to end when other rich and powerful people get tired of paying fees for crap that does not work.Feb 11 11:22
schestowitzAndroid has pushed Windows off a cliff. Try and Microsoft might, people are not going back to Microsoft platforms. Vista failed miserably and people left. Now the niche users are being squeezed by the march to Vista X. The intentional destruction of older Microsoft software is going to waste trillions of dollars worth of medical equipment. They have no one else left to squeeze, even their partners are using gnu/linux to make PRISM work.Feb 11 11:22
schestowitz"Feb 11 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Clueless #microsoft cannot sell desktops anymore (nosediving market), thinks it's 2009 all over again http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/08/remember_netbooks_windows_10_makes_them_good_again/Feb 11 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Remember Netbooks? Windows 10 makes them good again! • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oi2om ]Feb 11 11:22
schestowitzSadly, Android too is being closed down in some  ways and public backlash keeps it honest. Google has just undone a ban on Samsung software that blocks ads in the browser. I saw an article about it today. Let's keep software something that users control, not something that controls the users (like DRM, TPM UEFI).Feb 11 11:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/697816905948794880Feb 11 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz https://t.co/XbPX2zz8M3Feb 11 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheHackersNews: A Comprehensive Guide.. eBook: "Securing & Optimizing #Linux: The Hacking Solution (v.3.0)" https://t.co/2KwVHTJQjv https://t.co/Ywm0DJ2HpKFeb 11 11:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/CBejv15vbmFeb 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 11:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/el2RS9rEUxFeb 11 11:38
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oib3oFeb 11 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Free live-booting distro DVD with LU&D #162Feb 11 11:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/w5BwxTSLjd (www.linuxuser.co.uk) iFeb 11 11:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Free live-booting distro DVD with LU&D #162 | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 11 11:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux, IBM Share Bold Vision for HyperledgerFeb 11 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Project, a Blockchain Fabric for BusinessFeb 11 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fE2fUaiSVg (www.coindesk.com)Feb 11 11:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coindesk.com | Linux, IBM Share Bold Vision for Hyperledger Project, a Blockchain Fabric for Business - CoinDeskFeb 11 11:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     App: Download Manager for Samsung Z1 / Z3 isFeb 11 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Available in Tizen StoreFeb 11 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1S5onFNZkW (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 11 11:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | App: Download Manager for Samsung Z1 / Z3 is Available in Tizen Store - Tizen ExpertsFeb 11 11:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? Feb 11 11:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bdKawvPOz1Feb 11 11:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bristolwireless.net) no surpriseFeb 11 11:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uh0QkLYUv8 (techrights.org)Feb 11 11:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bristolwireless.net | Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? | Bristol WirelessFeb 11 11:48
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/697824226762366976Feb 11 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: I'm still here. #canaryinthecoalmine https://t.co/ykff8pgscoFeb 11 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: I have seen a riot called #riptwitter over #twitter planning to censor everyone (for profit/partners) but not deleting accounts b/c "trolls"Feb 11 11:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rackspace to Manage #RedHat #OpenStack CloudsFeb 11 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 On-PremiseFeb 11 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/r98MNTJKJc (www.cmswire.com)Feb 11 11:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cmswire.com | Rackspace to Manage Red Hat OpenStack Clouds On-PremiseFeb 11 11:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Three nginx Vulnerabilities Closed in UbuntuFeb 11 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 OSes https://t.co/Yora5PuaEvFeb 11 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 11 11:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The 32-bit microcontroller world is startingFeb 11 11:55
TweetTuxMachines                 to open up to world Linux."Feb 11 11:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DuUUknqKMP (www.linux.com)Feb 11 11:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | ST Releases Free Linux IDE for 32-Bit MCUs | Linux.comFeb 11 11:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Certified SystemFeb 11 11:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de RianchoFeb 11 11:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BSeKCVfanp (www.linux.com)Feb 11 11:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de Riancho | Linux.comFeb 11 11:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails installer is now in Debian LinuxFeb 11 11:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GZ1I4z9cFL (bits.debian.org)Feb 11 11:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bits.debian.org/2016/02/tails-installer-in-debian.html )Feb 11 11:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating SupportFeb 11 11:58
TweetTuxMachines                 with Help from Ubuntu DevFeb 11 11:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating Support with Help from Ubuntu DevFeb 11 11:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2Feb 11 11:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2Feb 11 11:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/697825360822468608 Feb 11 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: I'm ahead of you. Warning: Eventually you'll go to Xmonad or GNUStep. Not a bad thing, of course... https://t.co/mLCsIbnQt0Feb 11 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is there any #kde based distro left that does not suck? It currently sucks up about half an hour/day (sitting and waiting). back to #openboxFeb 11 12:01
r_schestowitzGNUstep would add icons and menus, which I don't have in openboxFeb 11 12:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System to Get a Much SmallerFeb 11 12:07
TweetTuxMachines                 ISO https://t.co/S9C1bzqnyjFeb 11 12:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System to Get a Much Smaller ISOFeb 11 12:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications 16.04 Suite for KDE Plasma 5.6Feb 11 12:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Applications 16.04 Suite for KDE Plasma 5.6 to Arrive on April 20, 2016Feb 11 12:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Radeon Gallium3D OpenGL Performance From FedoraFeb 11 12:34
TweetTuxMachines                 18 To Fedora 23 https://t.co/YpSyH7gLujFeb 11 12:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 11 12:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Radeon Gallium3D OpenGL Performance From Fedora 18 To Fedora 23 - PhoronixFeb 11 12:34
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Applications 16.04 Suite for KDE Plasma 5.6...'Feb 11 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? Feb 11 12:39
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/bdKawvPOz1Feb 11 12:39
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.bristolwireless.net) no surpriseFeb 11 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uh0QkLYUv8 (techrights.org)Feb 11 12:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bristolwireless.net | Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? | Bristol WirelessFeb 11 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - TechrightsFeb 11 12:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/CBejv15vbmFeb 11 12:39
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 12:39
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 11 12:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 11 12:39
*TweetTuxMachines @All4Privacy retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? ...'Feb 11 12:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 11/2/2016: LibreOffice 5.1, HMRC and FOSSFeb 11 12:44
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/1P97RJ4ZYU (techrights.org)Feb 11 12:44
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 11 12:44
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*TweetTuxMachines @TecnologiaFree retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? ...'Feb 11 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/2/2016: LibreOffice 5.1, HMRC and FOSS | TechrightsFeb 11 12:44
*TweetTuxMachines @myflywheel retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? ...'Feb 11 12:45
*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/CBejv15vbm'Feb 11 12:45
*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? ...'Feb 11 12:45
*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 11/2/2016: LibreOffice 5.1, HMRC and FOSS https://t.co/1P97RJ4ZYU'Feb 11 12:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rackspace Debuts Red Hat OpenStack For PrivateFeb 11 12:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Clouds https://t.co/Z2vcYHkZQ5Feb 11 12:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 12:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rackspace Debuts Red Hat OpenStack For Private Clouds | Tux MachinesFeb 11 12:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Three nginx Vulnerabilities Closed in UbuntuFeb 11 13:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IBM and Linux https://t.co/VPDtZlocoOFeb 11 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM and Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications 16.04 Suite for KDE Plasma 5.6Feb 11 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 to Arrive on April 20, 2016Feb 11 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ujYbJDlH9h (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Applications 16.04 Suite for KDE Plasma 5.6 to Arrive on April 20, 2016 | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Radeon Gallium3D OpenGL Performance From FedoraFeb 11 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 18 To Fedora 23 https://t.co/GbyhpgZ97oFeb 11 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Radeon Gallium3D OpenGL Performance From Fedora 18 To Fedora 23 | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:03
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/697819276577763328Feb 11 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #chrome is a proprietary bug https://t.co/XdOIbbafLB remember when it put a bugging (sound-recording) 'device' secretly in Debian?Feb 11 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theverge.com | Chrome for Android will soon alert you to nearby objects you can interact with | The VergeFeb 11 13:11
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schestowitztessier: I think cache server might be down, checking...Feb 11 14:15
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tessierschestowitz: Ran out of memory. It's currently doing an fsck due to not having been rebooted in so long. Back up soon...Feb 11 14:36
schestowitztessier: cheers, no problemFeb 11 14:38
tessierWe're backFeb 11 14:43
schestowitzyes, all fully operational again (I've checked)Feb 11 14:48
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*TweetTuxMachines @Totty_Music favourited '#RedHat employee makes viral rap video about #Raleigh...'Feb 11 16:22
TweetTuxMachines@UbuntuTopNews   Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Using the Latest LinuxFeb 11 16:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 4.4.1 https://t.co/zW8gdUbowlFeb 11 16:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachinesFeb 11 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Using the Latest Linux Kernel 4.4.1Feb 11 16:22
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MinceRhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2447Feb 11 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | journal ip anonymization · Issue #2447 · systemd/systemd · GitHubFeb 11 17:14
MinceRnot surprisingFeb 11 17:15
schestowitzwhy not?Feb 11 17:18
schestowitzAny OS should have something like thatFeb 11 17:18
schestowitzoh, wait, I thought you were talking about an OS, not an 'init system'Feb 11 17:19
MinceRthe fascists including the nsa don't care, therefore ratcrap doesn't careFeb 11 17:20
MinceRand of course poettering is committed to taking over all functionality of an OS, but he isn't interested in doing any of it correctlyFeb 11 17:22
schestowitzmight get to it at the endFeb 11 17:28
schestowitzlike he did pulseaudioFeb 11 17:28
schestowitz[rant]Feb 11 17:28
schestowitzI suffered a lot from PAFeb 11 17:28
schestowitzAround 2008Feb 11 17:28
schestowitzonwards until around 2010Feb 11 17:28
schestowitzI sometimes had it take up A LOT of CPUFeb 11 17:28
schestowitzand sometimes it went defunct, so I had to restart sessions and rebootFeb 11 17:28
schestowitznot I forgot about itFeb 11 17:29
schestowitzit "just works"Feb 11 17:29
schestowitzand behaves OKFeb 11 17:29
schestowitzLP blames Ubuntu's packaging of itFeb 11 17:29
schestowitzbut I experienced issues also in MandrivaFeb 11 17:29
schestowitzI think kf5 is a mess before of systemd-related overhailFeb 11 17:29
schestowitzand other red hat crap like wayland, plymouth etc.Feb 11 17:29
schestowitzI went back to openbox todayFeb 11 17:29
schestowitzI still check out the updated KDE buildsFeb 11 17:29
schestowitzas I did for the past weekFeb 11 17:30
schestowitzbut it's still messyFeb 11 17:30
schestowitzSo I hope systemd - like PA - will >somehow< and some time will turn out to work OKFeb 11 17:30
schestowitzI saw systemd mentioned today in arch wikiFeb 11 17:30
schestowitzwhen looking up some feh tipsFeb 11 17:30
schestowitzso resistance is now futileFeb 11 17:30
schestowitzsystemd will take over everything, I just hope they'll clean up the messFeb 11 17:31
schestowitz[end rant]Feb 11 17:31
MinceReven PA doesn't work OKFeb 11 17:41
MinceRand if systemd takes over all of unix, we'll need another unixFeb 11 17:41
MinceRwe needed a unix when winblows fucked up our IT completelyFeb 11 17:41
MinceRcancerd and lendows do not actually fix any of thisFeb 11 17:41
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schestowitzWindows sucked for many different reasonsFeb 11 17:54
schestowitzand people like ourselves didn't just say, heck, it's too monolithic, hence we need changeFeb 11 17:55
schestowitzLots of reasons for dumping Windows that are not applicable to systemdFeb 11 17:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697870479026221057Feb 11 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike invalid under Alice?Feb 11 17:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/blue_spike/status/697872253950783489Feb 11 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blue_spike: @zoobab trolling again?Feb 11 17:56
schestowitzzoobab_: maybe they doFeb 11 17:56
schestowitzpatent trollingFeb 11 17:56
MinceRthere are lots of reasons for dumping winblows that are already applicable to lendowsFeb 11 17:56
MinceRand the cult is working on making moreFeb 11 17:56
MinceRas well as destroying the competitionFeb 11 17:56
MinceR(yet another thing in common with m$)Feb 11 17:56
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schestowitzcontext: https://twitter.com/blue_spike/status/697116658847055872Feb 11 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blue_spike: 100 followers & our 100th patent grant https://t.co/rEBUxDBGbuFeb 11 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 200 @ http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%22moskowitz,+scott%22&OS=%22moskowitz,+scott%22&RS=%22moskowitz,+scott%22 )Feb 11 18:00
schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-229-ReleasedFeb 11 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver Now Fully Supported - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/oicsf ]Feb 11 18:04
MinceRoohFeb 11 18:11
MinceRfinally i can have DNS security holes built right into pid1!Feb 11 18:12
MinceRthe only problem is, i never wanted that and i never asked for thatFeb 11 18:12
schestowitzwho asked for systemd?Feb 11 18:13
schestowitzredhat and intel among the implementersFeb 11 18:13
schestowitzbut was there demand from, say, IBM?Feb 11 18:13
MinceRwho would demand anything at ibm?Feb 11 18:14
MinceRis anyone still working there?Feb 11 18:14
schestowitzThey moves many jobs to IndiaFeb 11 18:17
schestowitzMaybe kept many staff this way, similar staff numbersFeb 11 18:18
schestowitzWhen you sell machines at $500,000 apiece you can afford many members of staffFeb 11 18:18
schestowitzlike system architects and overpriced staff to look after overhyped mainframes for businesses that make a lot more money than they actually deserve, like investment banks and hedge fundsFeb 11 18:19
MinceRbut if you sell off all your department, your staff goes with them :>Feb 11 18:20
MinceRs/ent/&s/Feb 11 18:20
schestowitzlenovo and others, yes...Feb 11 18:23
schestowitzmaybe we need to check wikipedia for historical staff dataFeb 11 18:23
schestowitzI know their market cap suffered a declines years ago, but I haven't been keeping up with share prices of tech companies except for red hat'sFeb 11 18:23
cubexyzI think we are witnessing the end of windows dominanceFeb 11 19:03
MinceRdepends on whether ratcrap's gambit to kill unix will succeedFeb 11 19:04
MinceRand whether m$'s and intel's gambit to kill general purpose computing will succeedFeb 11 19:04
schestowitzwhat about android with baseband OSes?Feb 11 19:05
schestowitzwe're not doing too well on phone freedom eitherFeb 11 19:05
schestowitzthough at least there's AOSP and FdroidFeb 11 19:05
schestowitzMicrosoft practically put the death knell upon CMFeb 11 19:05
schestowitzand I believe Androidx86 is far too Google hostileFeb 11 19:06
schestowitzeven hostile towards a project (recently) that 'dared' to fork FOSSFeb 11 19:06
MinceRphones always suckedFeb 11 19:06
schestowitzComplained about Google for antitrustFeb 11 19:06
schestowitzVery weird entities around AndroidFeb 11 19:06
MinceRandroid was a ray of hope which mostly failedFeb 11 19:06
MinceRnow we get lendows on phones, with tizen and othersFeb 11 19:06
schestowitzNow amazon is trying to hijack AndroudFeb 11 19:06
schestowitzAfter MS Android and MS FB failedFeb 11 19:06
MinceRlooks like phones will just keep on sucking foreverFeb 11 19:07
schestowitzand CM is hardly heard of anymoreFeb 11 19:07
schestowitz(better that way)Feb 11 19:07
MinceRm$ android failed already?Feb 11 19:07
MinceRi still keep hearing about CMFeb 11 19:07
schestowitzJolla got some fundingFeb 11 19:07
schestowitzbut it's not so FOSSyFeb 11 19:07
schestowitzTizen is Samsung onlyFeb 11 19:07
MinceRsailfish os is nonfree and it's lendows, iircFeb 11 19:07
schestowitzsome insider ranted about how Samsung just does "open" charades around itFeb 11 19:07
schestowitzUbuntu Phone is slow to pick upFeb 11 19:07
schestowitzFirefoxOS is dead.. for phones at leastFeb 11 19:08
MinceRand instead of phones getting more open and more general-purpose, locking down has apparently gained popularityFeb 11 19:08
schestowitzAs dead as Windows on phones Feb 11 19:08
schestowitz(seen one person use it the other day, on a 'Nokia')Feb 11 19:08
MinceRtry to run an OS of your choice on your phone and you get loss of hw support, loss of warranty and potential brickingFeb 11 19:08
schestowitzMinceR: and it gets worse around them, at the towerFeb 11 19:08
schestowitztoday I saw this:Feb 11 19:08
schestowitz!google android to find smart devices marshmallowFeb 11 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - How to get Android Marshmallow 6.0 update for your device ... | http://gadgetguideonline.com/android/android-marshmallow-guide/how-to-get-android-marshmallow-6-0-update-for-your-device/Feb 11 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Android 6.0 Marshmallow Update: Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony | Digital ... | http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-6-marshmallow-updated-phones/Feb 11 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - When will your phone get Android Marshmallow? - CNET | http://www.cnet.com/news/android-marshmallow-phones-update/Feb 11 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - How to get Android Marshmallow features on your phone right now ... | https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-get-android-marshmallow-features-on-your-phone-right-nowFeb 11 19:09
schestowitzwait, that's not itFeb 11 19:09
schestowitzit basically looks for 'IoT' in the vicinityFeb 11 19:09
MinceRand they believe that their idiotic image patching is a reasonable way to deliver security updatesFeb 11 19:09
schestowitzso obviously broadcasting to other devicesFeb 11 19:09
schestowitz"for your advantage" of course...Feb 11 19:09
MinceRthey're even pushing that to "PC"sFeb 11 19:09
schestowitzChrome OS can boot spontaneouslyFeb 11 19:09
schestowitzeven if you run GNU/Linux on  itFeb 11 19:09
MinceRwell, i guess it's easier for the establishment if computers have more security holesFeb 11 19:10
schestowitzbecause Google decides "it's time"Feb 11 19:10
MinceReven in developer mode?Feb 11 19:10
schestowitzRempote update you cannot control is a back doorFeb 11 19:10
schestowitzit's marketing as closing holeFeb 11 19:10
schestowitzbut it's a hole in its own rightFeb 11 19:10
schestowitzunless you have control over it and given consent with details of what's being changed (I upgraded Firefox to 44 a few hours ago)Feb 11 19:10
schestowitz(I need to do rianne's upgrade next)Feb 11 19:10
schestowitzMinceR: Chrome OS in developer mode, yes...Feb 11 19:11
schestowitzshe uses Ubuntu on top of Chrome OS, with croutonFeb 11 19:11
schestowitzsometimes it just dies without notice and bootsFeb 11 19:11
MinceRthat's fucked upFeb 11 19:12
MinceRmaybe it doesn't happen if you boot an alternate rootfs instead, thoughFeb 11 19:12
schestowitzthere's also no way to change sleep mode settingsFeb 11 19:12
schestowitzunless she created a google account to 'sign in' to Chrome OSFeb 11 19:12
schestowitzrather than start as a guest to boot up ubuntuFeb 11 19:12
cubexyzok, well I can safely say that FC1, AntiX, Q4OS and Vector 7.1 do not force rebootsFeb 11 19:12
schestowitzChrome OS requires you to set up an account on 'the Cloud' to change/configureFeb 11 19:12
MinceRhttp://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/rockchip/asus-chromebook-flip-c100pFeb 11 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archlinuxarm.org | Asus Chromebook Flip C100P | Arch Linux ARMFeb 11 19:13
MinceRbooting from external storage like that ^Feb 11 19:13
schestowitzprevious chromebook was dual-bootFeb 11 19:13
schestowitzso proper install, no subordinate OSFeb 11 19:13
schestowitzand it didn't work too well with all the hardware, but somehow remotely acceptableFeb 11 19:13
schestowitzChromebooks at least cost littleFeb 11 19:13
schestowitzand Microsoft doesn't get paid a dime, AFAIKFeb 11 19:14
cubexyzcan you put CrOS into dev mode, and put a full linux on?Feb 11 19:14
cubexyzhaven't looked at that yetFeb 11 19:14
schestowitzso it makes the statement, even to the stores and OEMs, that there's demand for non-WindowsFeb 11 19:14
schestowitzcubexyz: yesFeb 11 19:14
schestowitzit's not even hard to doFeb 11 19:14
schestowitzjust make sure the hardware is compatible and to what degreeFeb 11 19:14
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schestowitztegra had a hard time with network (freezes), sound, colours (BGR rather than RGB)Feb 11 19:15
schestowitzamong other few issuesFeb 11 19:15
schestowitzcubexyz: try Acer 15Feb 11 19:15
schestowitzworksFeb 11 19:15
MinceRwell, tegra sucksFeb 11 19:15
MinceRx86 would probably work betterFeb 11 19:16
schestowitzI recently recommended this to a friend who's a retired chefFeb 11 19:16
schestowitzbecause he asked me as "his expert"Feb 11 19:16
schestowitzMinceR: yes, it doesFeb 11 19:16
schestowitztegra is designed for locked down crapFeb 11 19:16
schestowitzwith blobsFeb 11 19:16
schestowitzworks well as long as you play by >their< rulesFeb 11 19:16
schestowitzcubexyz: should cost no more than 300 canadian dollarsFeb 11 19:16
schestowitzand it's a 15 inch screen, dual core processor, 2 gb of ram, which is more than enough unless you edit videos or somethingFeb 11 19:17
cubexyzI'm a computing minimalist anywayFeb 11 19:17
cubexyzdon't need mega-hardwareFeb 11 19:17
MinceRwhat if state of the art cryptography needs fast hardware?Feb 11 19:18
schestowitzCAD 300  should fit the bill anyhowFeb 11 19:18
schestowitzno MS taxFeb 11 19:18
MinceRor what if you need to view a "modern" website that by itself slows a modern supercomputer to a crawl?Feb 11 19:18
schestowitzMinceR: how often do you encrypt/decrypt?Feb 11 19:18
schestowitzexcept let's say in the browser?Feb 11 19:18
MinceRall the timeFeb 11 19:18
cubexyzMinceR, but it doesn't... for my normal day-to-day use including online banking even my P3 coppermine 866 mhz is fineFeb 11 19:18
schestowitzMinceR: noscriptFeb 11 19:18
MinceRssh, irc over ssl, etcFeb 11 19:18
schestowitzand adblock plusFeb 11 19:18
MinceRyeah, but it's fashionable to keep you from seeing _any_ content whatsoever if you block javascriptFeb 11 19:19
cubexyzmostly I use P3's :)Feb 11 19:19
schestowitzsites can be made very lean if you also pretend to be using a mobileFeb 11 19:19
schestowitzand they then serve minimalist stuff with all the 'beef', not the clutterFeb 11 19:19
MinceRbecause somehow web browsers can no longer be trusted to render text and images, you've got to reimplement the browser in javascriptFeb 11 19:19
schestowitznot many sitesFeb 11 19:20
schestowitzmost work ok without jsFeb 11 19:20
schestowitzI could name those that don'tFeb 11 19:20
schestowitzas I visit thousands of sites repeatedlyFeb 11 19:20
MinceRi keep bumping into themFeb 11 19:20
MinceRlike this maru os thingFeb 11 19:20
schestowitztech news sites, android, apple, MSFTFeb 11 19:20
schestowitzMaybe a dozen refuse to work with JSFeb 11 19:20
schestowitzfamously NYT and Forbes these daysFeb 11 19:20
schestowitz(among the 'big' ones)Feb 11 19:20
MinceRah yes, fucking forbesFeb 11 19:21
schestowitzdisgustingFeb 11 19:21
MinceRand some blogspot sitesFeb 11 19:21
schestowitzyes]Feb 11 19:21
schestowitzsome themesFeb 11 19:21
cubexyznoscript allows for fine tuningFeb 11 19:21
cubexyzyou bugger around with it you can make any site workFeb 11 19:21
schestowitzaseigo used that one, I tried to hint that he should change themeFeb 11 19:21
MinceRi don't need fine tuning, i need these assholes to start using html properlyFeb 11 19:21
schestowitzthey doFeb 11 19:21
schestowitzbut many link it to outside crapFeb 11 19:22
MinceRalso, i'm tired of clicking through all combinations of 9001 domains to run random, potentially malicious crap fromFeb 11 19:22
schestowitzlike FB JS, Twitter JS, Google JS, all sorts of trackers and ad networksFeb 11 19:22
schestowitzMinceR: go to phoronixFeb 11 19:22
schestowitzclick on noscriptFeb 11 19:22
schestowitzon any article, not just front pageFeb 11 19:22
schestowitzthen, do the same in tuxmachines and techrightsFeb 11 19:22
schestowitztuxmachines has only one 'sin'Feb 11 19:22
schestowitzit's google translate JSFeb 11 19:22
MinceRit's like people realize that software can have bugs, but javascript sandboxes are fucking flawlessFeb 11 19:22
schestowitzto make real-time in-place translations workFeb 11 19:22
MinceRnothing could possibly go wrong with running random shit downloaded from random places!Feb 11 19:23
schestowitzI hate JSFeb 11 19:23
schestowitzI can code in it and did before, but nothing essentialFeb 11 19:23
cubexyzif a site is too bloated I try lynx or dilloFeb 11 19:23
schestowitzit contributed to issues with some devices and browser, same issues as with flashFeb 11 19:23
cubexyzthat's good enough to get the 'meat'Feb 11 19:23
schestowitzso better teach people to do the same things at the back endFeb 11 19:23
MinceRoften it won't get you the 'meat'Feb 11 19:24
schestowitzcubexyz:  used dillo a while backFeb 11 19:24
MinceRbecause they decided if you don't use a typical bloated "modern" browser with js, css and all that bullshit, you don't count anymoreFeb 11 19:24
schestowitzon a laptop from 1999 and then on some modern computer, it's only useful if you visit old school sitesFeb 11 19:24
MinceRmaybe i get an empty page even without cssFeb 11 19:24
cubexyzgive us an exampleFeb 11 19:24
MinceRor just a few links from noscriptFeb 11 19:24
schestowitzit's like running netscape two decades after its rottingFeb 11 19:24
cubexyzschestowitz, laptop is harder yesFeb 11 19:25
MinceRcubexyz: http://maruos.com/#/Feb 11 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://maruos.com/#/ )Feb 11 19:25
schestowitzMinceR: without CSS it should worFeb 11 19:25
schestowitzif they do CSS rightFeb 11 19:25
cubexyzslow video is a killer for web browsersFeb 11 19:25
MinceRgives you the main menu items as plain textFeb 11 19:25
MinceRand that's itFeb 11 19:25
MinceRfucking uselessFeb 11 19:25
MinceRschestowitz: they don't do css rightFeb 11 19:25
MinceRhell, the w3c doesn't do anything right anymoreFeb 11 19:25
schestowitzit's funded by mpaaFeb 11 19:25
MinceRthey just rubberstamp anything their corporate overlords put in front of themFeb 11 19:26
schestowitz"practical"Feb 11 19:26
schestowitzover freedom, openness, standard, interopFeb 11 19:26
cubexyzok, for maru I had to use firefox with noscript offFeb 11 19:26
MinceRwe'll see how "practical" it is when they get their boxes owned through their fucking browsersFeb 11 19:26
schestowitz"hey, we gotta have all these hip widgets and videos" (apple, netflix)Feb 11 19:26
MinceRfor all his bullshitting around the "open web", tim berners-lee happily let them put their h.264 patents and even DRM right into the specFeb 11 19:26
schestowitzI could see my browser burn up 1GB of RAM opening a dozen tabs of 'news' sites if there's no NoScriptFeb 11 19:27
cubexyzsomeone needs to tell maru their site is lynx hostile :)Feb 11 19:27
schestowitzPages became massive programsFeb 11 19:27
schestowitzand each page is linked to about 30 domainsFeb 11 19:27
MinceRmight as well tell most websites thatFeb 11 19:27
schestowitzsometimes more, you have to check and see to actually believe itFeb 11 19:27
MinceRi guess this is how IT diesFeb 11 19:27
schestowitzthey don't count on people checking sources, counting cookies, checking XSSFeb 11 19:27
cubexyznothing really dies thoughFeb 11 19:28
schestowitzMinceR: timbl softened with ageFeb 11 19:28
cubexyzI belong to sites that fix c64's, amigas and PDP-11sFeb 11 19:28
MinceRyeah, so did rmsFeb 11 19:28
schestowitzhe used to brag about having no patents on his babyFeb 11 19:28
schestowitznow there are patents (codecs) and also DRMFeb 11 19:28
cubexyzI ported em to Unix v5 a few days ago :)Feb 11 19:28
schestowitzto nail the last one on the coffinFeb 11 19:29
schestowitzI want a new Web plaftrormFeb 11 19:29
MinceRso do iFeb 11 19:29
schestowitzI can transport the serverFeb 11 19:29
schestowitzDBs and all still work fine, fully FOSSFeb 11 19:29
schestowitzjust need a new user-facing layer to serve over, with new rulesFeb 11 19:29
schestowitzand decentralisedFeb 11 19:29
cubexyzbtw lynx works with forbesFeb 11 19:29
MinceRthe lazy way would be just moving to gopher :>Feb 11 19:29
MinceRbut i think we can do betterFeb 11 19:29
schestowitzless censorship, hardly any centralised surveillanceFeb 11 19:30
MinceRcubexyz: nice, i'll give it a tryFeb 11 19:30
schestowitzthere's not much work involved, the data and page content is already in placeFeb 11 19:30
cubexyzI think I know what my next blog post will be :)Feb 11 19:30
schestowitzcubexyz: go for it, I'll link to it, like I did your last oneFeb 11 19:30
schestowitzbased on what people say in twitter and diapora (of course) other people bemoan the same thingsFeb 11 19:31
schestowitzit's just that they don't put it in writingFeb 11 19:31
cubexyzeveryone should test their web sites with lynx as a baseline comparisonFeb 11 19:31
cubexyzthat includes router portalsFeb 11 19:31
schestowitzpeople don't use lynx because of the webFeb 11 19:31
schestowitzthe web denies lynxFeb 11 19:31
schestowitzrather than lynx denying the webFeb 11 19:31
schestowitzand that's where the Web is goingFeb 11 19:31
schestowitzjust as many ISVs deny LinuxFeb 11 19:32
MinceRwhere the web is going: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Dumpster-non.JPGFeb 11 19:32
schestowitzrather than Linux users denying themFeb 11 19:32
schestowitzsame for the gaming 'industry'Feb 11 19:32
schestowitzthe web won't lastFeb 11 19:33
schestowitzthe internet might last longerFeb 11 19:33
MinceRnahFeb 11 19:33
schestowitzTim B-L made it easier for alternatives to ariseFeb 11 19:33
MinceRif the web dies, the fascists will kill the internet immediatelyFeb 11 19:33
schestowitzThe Internet needs to be fixed topologicallyFeb 11 19:33
MinceRas it will only be used for services "turrists" useFeb 11 19:33
schestowitzIPv6 won't do anything to fix thatFeb 11 19:33
cubexyzI blame the web developers thenFeb 11 19:33
schestowitzthey actually have bits in it resevres for "Earth"Feb 11 19:33
cubexyzfor poor work that's not compatibleFeb 11 19:33
schestowitzSo ambitious that they think the Internet will occupy the whole of spaceFeb 11 19:34
schestowitzI guess then too Pentagon will be mother shipFeb 11 19:34
schestowitzso packets from Mars will have DNS propagated from somewhere in Virginia or whateverFeb 11 19:34
cubexyzhttp://www.cfar.umd.edu/~waksman/lynx/making.htmlFeb 11 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cfar.umd.edu | Making your web pages Lynx friendly [ http://ur1.ca/oid30 ]Feb 11 19:34
schestowitzSo that USS Enterprise or whatever will do its star wars spiel and play babysitter with the "Internet"Feb 11 19:35
schestowitzcubexyz: does the techrights blog look ok to you in lynxFeb 11 19:35
schestowitzthe drupal part (front page), blog, and wiki?Feb 11 19:35
schestowitzand what about tuxmachines? I think they should show up reasonably wellFeb 11 19:36
cubexyzyeah it works ok with lynxFeb 11 19:36
schestowitzincluding alt tagsFeb 11 19:36
schestowitzfor images to show up with proper description of what's in the photosFeb 11 19:36
TweetTuxMachines@SiriusCorp      I just pledged to help shape #ourfoodfuture.Feb 11 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Join the conversation and sign up too!Feb 11 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 @ThunderclapIt // @foodgovFeb 11 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/w4rBDUPL3L (www.thunderclap.it)Feb 11 19:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thunderclap.it | Thunderclap: Help shape our food future!Feb 11 19:36
MinceRat this rate, there won't be a uss enterpriseFeb 11 19:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Education and  Open AccessFeb 11 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/adiEDaIYwj (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 19:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3aFeb 11 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Education and Open Access | Tux MachinesFeb 11 19:36
MinceRthere will just be a smoldering, lifeless ruin where earth used to beFeb 11 19:36
schestowitzmany don't bother, but I like to think blind people would love me for taking the effort for invisible text ;'-)Feb 11 19:36
schestowitzMinceR: we'll have movies like MartianFeb 11 19:37
cubexyzif you like vi you'll be right at home with lynxFeb 11 19:37
schestowitzso that we can live the AmericanDream(r) and pretend we already colonies a planet, not just a moon for half an hour (the one that orbits us only)Feb 11 19:37
MinceRi use links2 occasionallyFeb 11 19:37
MinceRusually with -g but not always :>Feb 11 19:38
cubexyzit's not that hard to be lynx compatibleFeb 11 19:38
schestowitzit is....Feb 11 19:39
schestowitz....when you work for stupid companiesFeb 11 19:39
schestowitzthat think of their web site as a printer posterFeb 11 19:39
schestowitzold schoolers who don't 'get' the WebFeb 11 19:39
schestowitzI met people and companies like thatFeb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/pFNBRCvz2MFeb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3nFeb 11 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNSFeb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Resolver Now Fully SupportedFeb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/x5YUfweX8H (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3oFeb 11 19:39
schestowitzmy first web site for a client, the guy asked me to implement BACKGROUND MUSICFeb 11 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver Now Fully Supported | Tux MachinesFeb 11 19:39
MinceR:>Feb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 tips for getting the most life out of yourFeb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Android battery https://t.co/0WfuD139HVFeb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 19:39
schestowitzand flash objects flying aroundFeb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3pFeb 11 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 tips for getting the most life out of your Android battery | Tux MachinesFeb 11 19:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight PortableFeb 11 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Security) Linux OS Gets UpdatedFeb 11 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2x9VPOced9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 19:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3qFeb 11 19:40
schestowitzI ended up putting a MIDI file on the siteFeb 11 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security) Linux OS Gets Updated | Tux MachinesFeb 11 19:40
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security)...'Feb 11 19:40
schestowitzwhich he later said became annoying to visitors. Well, duh, that's what I had told himFeb 11 19:40
cubexyzbtw I do have one problem with tuxmachinesFeb 11 19:40
cubexyzI can't register :)Feb 11 19:40
schestowitzrightFeb 11 19:40
schestowitzintentionalFeb 11 19:40
schestowitzbut temporaryFeb 11 19:41
schestowitzbecause of spam epidemicFeb 11 19:41
cubexyzok, I figured it was something like thatFeb 11 19:41
schestowitzwhich you personally alerted me to in the page, pharma spam taking over, occupying even the front page, potentially penalising the siteFeb 11 19:41
schestowitzI ask rianne sometimes whether we can re-enable registrationFeb 11 19:41
cubexyzI use manual registering on my forumFeb 11 19:41
cubexyzhttp://forum.cubeman.orgFeb 11 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.cubeman.org | Domain of the Cube Forum | Cube lovers returnsFeb 11 19:42
schestowitzbut there are still many attemtps to sign up by bots, maybe tens of thousands per monthFeb 11 19:42
schestowitz(last I checked)Feb 11 19:42
cubexyzclick on the question mark and you get instructions on how to registerFeb 11 19:42
schestowitztechrights allows registrationFeb 11 19:42
schestowitzand now has nearly  1 million 'users'Feb 11 19:42
schestowitzsuffice to say, it's a spamfestFeb 11 19:42
cubexyzhaFeb 11 19:42
schestowitzhard to actually find legit users at this stageFeb 11 19:42
schestowitzlots of CMSs become like that unless there are restrictions, captcha is often not enough to weed out the spamFeb 11 19:43
cubexyzmanual :)Feb 11 19:43
cubexyzget them to tell you why they want to registerFeb 11 19:43
schestowitzthe script kiddies just need to get their perl script or whatever working once, then rerunFeb 11 19:43
schestowitzeven with some high error rates they can occasionally sneak in their crapFeb 11 19:44
schestowitzbrute forceFeb 11 19:44
cubexyzyou must be able to form coherent sentences to join :)Feb 11 19:44
schestowitzand onces they sneak it they wank themselves in joy, increase the frequency (brute force), and your server is crippled with heavier loads, slower respons timesFeb 11 19:44
schestowitz*reponseFeb 11 19:44
schestowitzcubexyz: but then you have to review what they enteredFeb 11 19:45
cubexyzyesFeb 11 19:45
schestowitzRecently my techrights signup in drupal site got abusedFeb 11 19:45
schestowitzso much that my host wrote to meFeb 11 19:45
cubexyzI switched to manual years ago, no problemsFeb 11 19:45
schestowitzthey hammers on it thousands of timesFeb 11 19:45
schestowitzsending me like thousands of requests to join every hourFeb 11 19:46
schestowitzand overloading my host's mail serversFeb 11 19:46
schestowitzso I had to disable techrights registration to the drupal sideFeb 11 19:46
schestowitzsame in the wiki for years, due to lots of spamFeb 11 19:46
schestowitzso just wordpress is still open to them, for commentsFeb 11 19:46
schestowitzand gets a huge number of bogus registrationsFeb 11 19:46
schestowitzsame in php-nuke sites I have, albeit the frequency thereof dropped over the yearsFeb 11 19:47
schestowitzwhich basically comes to show what an utter mess the Web becameFeb 11 19:47
cubexyzI get around 40 spam registrations per day, not too badFeb 11 19:47
schestowitzmaking lots of components insecure by design for back doors partly the causeFeb 11 19:47
cubexyzautodelete once a weekFeb 11 19:47
schestowitzevolving along the lines of remote control by the entities that created the Internet in the first placeFeb 11 19:47
schestowitzcubexyz: you still need to reviewFeb 11 19:48
cubexyzI think the spamming is actually decreasingFeb 11 19:48
schestowitzthat can be an hour a monthFeb 11 19:48
schestowitzI used to spent hours per month reviewing spam, now it's a lot lessFeb 11 19:48
cubexyznot too many people into cube math :)Feb 11 19:48
cubexyzyes, it is a messFeb 11 19:52
cubexyzyou can imagine being on a P3 how much I hating autoplayFeb 11 19:56
cubexyzthat was a big deal turning that offFeb 11 19:56
cubexyzs/hating/hated/Feb 11 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/el2RS9rEUxFeb 11 20:56
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 20:56
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 11 20:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidf1Feb 11 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 11 20:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more)Feb 11 20:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TBvtoHGY25 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 20:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidftFeb 11 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more) | Tux MachinesFeb 11 20:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change theFeb 11 20:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 11 20:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lzicIKiJHh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 20:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidfuFeb 11 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the Visibility of App Menus in Unity Panel | Tux MachinesFeb 11 20:59
cubexyzlwn.net is subscriber only?Feb 11 21:01
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7032750Feb 11 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Around the world new systems of control are taking hold. They are stifling global conversation" http://www.thestatesman.com/news/opinion/the-mute-button-called-self-censorship/122978.html sounds like #twitterFeb 11 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thestatesman.com | The Statesman: The mute button called self-censorshipFeb 11 21:06
schestowitztwitter not does the SJW spielFeb 11 21:06
schestowitzto attract shareholdersFeb 11 21:06
schestowitz!google saudi prince invests in twitterFeb 11 21:06
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Saudi prince's investment firm increases Twitter stake - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/07/saudi-princes-investment-stake-twitter-alwaleed-bin-talal-kingdom-holdingFeb 11 21:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed doubles his stake in Twitter - Fortune | http://fortune.com/2015/10/07/saudi-prince-twitter-stock/Feb 11 21:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Billionaire Saudi Prince Alwaleed Ups Stake In Twitter To 5% - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurengensler/2015/10/07/billionaire-saudi-prince-alwaleed-twitter/Feb 11 21:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Twitter: Saudi prince raises his stake to more than 5% - Oct. 7, 2015 | http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/07/technology/twitter-saudi-prince-stake/Feb 11 21:06
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MinceRthen it's time to leave twitterFeb 11 21:16
MinceRand see where it goes with lots of investors but no usersFeb 11 21:16
cubexyzhttp://spectrum.ieee.org/consumer-electronics/portable-devices/novena-a-laptop-with-no-secretsFeb 11 21:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets - IEEE SpectrumFeb 11 21:19
schestowitzhi hm76f76rj5dFeb 11 21:21
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the...'Feb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation hires HinkleFeb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oWe6EH7mnr (allcoinsnews.com)Feb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidl9Feb 11 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-allcoinsnews.com | The Linux Foundation Appoint New Members to Executive Leadership Team | allcoinsnews.comFeb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tempest, a good looking pirate ship combat gameFeb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 looks like it's coming to LinuxFeb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HAwMYuoU8O (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidlaFeb 11 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Tempest, a good looking pirate ship combat game looks like it's coming to Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tomb Raider really does look like it's comingFeb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 to Linux & SteamOS https://t.co/kB0XiKit3vFeb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 11 21:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidlbFeb 11 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Tomb Raider really does look like it's coming to Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 11 21:23
hm76f76rj5dhi schestowitz!Feb 11 21:24
hm76f76rj5dhi everyoneFeb 11 21:24
hm76f76rj5dI follow your posts in diaspora and Gnusocial, but just now realized there's this chat roomFeb 11 21:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Banks and the blockchain: How open will theyFeb 11 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 be? https://t.co/LqpoHeU0sPFeb 11 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bizjournals.com)Feb 11 21:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidmwFeb 11 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizjournals.com | Firm58 predicts the end of R3CEV and the spread of open-source blockchains - New York Business JournalFeb 11 21:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KEYMILE chooses ubuntu gnu linuxFeb 11 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RrLp7i8D5c (www.prnewswire.com)Feb 11 21:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidmxFeb 11 21:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 tips for getting the most life out of yourFeb 11 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Android battery https://t.co/t0aakvNn07Feb 11 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 11 21:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidmzFeb 11 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | KEYMILE and Canonical Demo Industry's First Cloud-based App-enabled Open Source MSAN During... -- BARCELONA, Spain, February 11, 2016 /PRNewswire/ --Feb 11 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | 10 tips for getting the most life out of your Android battery - TechRepublicFeb 11 21:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight PortableFeb 11 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Security) Linux OS Gets UpdatedFeb 11 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DTBbnJzLr6 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 11 21:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidnxFeb 11 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security) Linux OS Gets UpdatedFeb 11 21:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more)Feb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/grJp8OePLs (permalink.gmane.org)Feb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidnzFeb 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org | GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more)Feb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change theFeb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BNMYeFgXMr (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oido0Feb 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 11 21:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/697970998713458688Feb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Jevgeni Kabanov and Sten Suitsev, fromFeb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 ZeroTurnaround, Talk about #JRebel for AndroidFeb 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Startup mythology is stronger in #India than anywhere else despite the fact that itsUSA proponents are vicious, racist assholesFeb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lxAMs5asrq (www.infoq.com)Feb 11 21:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oido3Feb 11 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Jevgeni Kabanov and Sten Suitsev, from ZeroTurnaround, Talk about JRebel for AndroidFeb 11 21:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the...'Feb 11 21:37
schestowitzthere's this mythology in other countries, and in some it actually works, surprisinglyFeb 11 21:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security)...'Feb 11 21:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked!Feb 11 21:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/SIGismFLKL (www.linuxjournal.com)Feb 11 21:40
TweetTuxMachines                 playing classic #games on #gnu #linux thanks toFeb 11 21:40
TweetTuxMachines                 key projects/codeFeb 11 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! | Linux JournalFeb 11 21:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidouFeb 11 21:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/697973134046203904Feb 11 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz It "might" even work in #India but not until they stop idolising SV. pmarca's offensive stupidity might help everyone long termFeb 11 21:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/697974526798393344Feb 11 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: .@schestowitz They accidentally let it slip out that technology monopoly is indeed neocolonialism. #oops #facebook #pmarcaFeb 11 21:45
cubexyznon UEFI choices so far:Feb 11 21:49
cubexyzchromebook, chromebox, Novena, Pitop, older computersFeb 11 21:50
cubexyzanything with coreboot actuallyFeb 11 21:50
cubexyzand maybe the Talos Secure WorkstationFeb 11 21:54
cubexyzTalos is expensive though, over $3KFeb 11 21:55
schestowitz"Feb 11 21:57
schestowitzECHRFeb 11 21:57
schestowitzSo, Assange had sought to bring the case before the European Court of Human Rights, but it had been rejected.Feb 11 21:57
schestowitzIf this is true, the tweet from the Wikileaks account is false, and the operator of the Wikleaks account would have known it was false.Feb 11 21:57
schestowitzAnd what do we call a deliberate falsehood?Feb 11 21:57
schestowitzRemember “Assange’s Law”:  every statement of law promoted by Assange will turn out on scrutiny to be false or misleading.Feb 11 21:57
schestowitz"Feb 11 21:57
schestowitzhttp://jackofkent.com/2016/02/in-which-wikileaks-is-caught-out-publishing-a-deliberate-falsehood/Feb 11 21:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jackofkent.com | In which Wikileaks is caught out publishing a deliberate falsehood – Jack of Kent blogFeb 11 21:57
cubexyzoh forgot lemote :)Feb 11 22:02
cubexyzchromebook, chromebox, Novena, Pitop, older computers and lemoteFeb 11 22:02
cubexyzthere's you list of non-UEFI computersFeb 11 22:03
cubexyzmore data on novena:Feb 11 22:04
cubexyzhttp://www.kosagi.com/w/index.php?title=Novena_Main_PageFeb 11 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kosagi.com | Novena Main Page - Studio Kousagi Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/c3aat ]Feb 11 22:04
cubexyznote the datasheets are availableFeb 11 22:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked!Feb 11 22:07
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/SIGismFLKL (www.linuxjournal.com)Feb 11 22:07
TweetTuxMachines @CowboyGamesBot  playing classic #games on #gnu #linux thanks toFeb 11 22:07
TweetTuxMachines                 key projects/codeFeb 11 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! | Linux JournalFeb 11 22:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oiduuFeb 11 22:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Begins Landing Apollolake Support WithinFeb 11 22:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Coreboot https://t.co/GsNJVwqRGGFeb 11 22:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 11 22:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oiduvFeb 11 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Begins Landing Apollolake Support Within Coreboot - PhoronixFeb 11 22:07
MinceRis there a clamshell-style laptop case for novena?Feb 11 22:09
MinceRone that's still available, that isFeb 11 22:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for theFeb 11 22:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Infamous Incoming-Call Hang IssueFeb 11 22:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a4byJDXphm (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 22:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidvjFeb 11 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for the Infamous Incoming-Call Hang IssueFeb 11 22:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNSFeb 11 22:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Resolver Now Fully SupportedFeb 11 22:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/s3zIBdlEzm (www.phoronix.com)Feb 11 22:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0854xFBa3d (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 22:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidvkFeb 11 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver Now Fully Supported - PhoronixFeb 11 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lennart Poettering Announces the Release of systemd 229 for all Linux OSesFeb 11 22:09
cubexyzthe novena prototype was clamshell, not sure about the production versionFeb 11 22:10
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver...'Feb 11 22:10
cubexyzthe screen opens the wrong way it seemsFeb 11 22:11
cubexyzopposite of a normal laptopFeb 11 22:11
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for...'Feb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Facebook-squishing Indian regulator's nextFeb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 move: Open source code https://t.co/IY0LIK7cjfFeb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidw4Feb 11 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Facebook-squishing Indian regulator's next move: Open source code | Tux MachinesFeb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Hirings and InitiativesFeb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NwGPjUlVvS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidw5Feb 11 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Hirings and Initiatives | Tux MachinesFeb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for theFeb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Infamous Incoming-Call Hang IssueFeb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5mrPShbEeW (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidw6Feb 11 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for the Infamous Incoming-Call Hang Issue | Tux MachinesFeb 11 22:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases #Feb 11 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Snapcraft 2.2 Snappy Creator Tool for UbuntuFeb 11 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy Core https://t.co/B8BkKYoz3YFeb 11 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 22:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidyjFeb 11 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.2 Snappy Creator Tool for Ubuntu Snappy CoreFeb 11 22:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Maru is becoming an open source project (useFeb 11 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 your Android phone as a Linux desktop)Feb 11 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YF427hJtz9 (liliputing.com)Feb 11 22:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidykFeb 11 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | Maru is becoming an open source project (use your Android phone as a Linux desktop) - LiliputingFeb 11 22:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Maru is becoming an open source project (useFeb 11 22:24
TweetTuxMachines                 your Android phone as a Linux desktop)Feb 11 22:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MgcUUgKI9Y (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 22:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidylFeb 11 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Maru is becoming an open source project (use your Android phone as a Linux desktop) | Tux MachinesFeb 11 22:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases # Snapcraft 2.2 Snappy Creator Tool...'Feb 11 22:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/VernsCave/status/698006731436089345Feb 12 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@VernsCave: Only thing missing is a gun to the head https://t.co/eoDEvnb8O7Feb 12 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #TTIP: A locked room, no internet access, two hours, 300 pages and lots of typos https://t.co/mVNieniVCP colluding against societyFeb 12 04:14
*TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! https://t.co/SIGismFLKL playing classic #games...'Feb 12 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! | Linux JournalFeb 12 04:14
schestowitzzoobab_: https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698064350536409088Feb 12 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike not really. More spam for software developers. When does it stop?Feb 12 04:25
schestowitz"@blue_spike not really. More spam for software developers. When does it stop?"Feb 12 04:25
schestowitzThey tried to call you trollFeb 12 04:25
schestowitzand it's them who areFeb 12 04:26
*TweetTuxMachines @TwimarMarwen followed @tuxmachinesFeb 12 04:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change theFeb 12 04:38
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 04:38
TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        https://t.co/BNMYeFgXMr (news.softpedia.com)Feb 12 04:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oif7hFeb 12 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 04:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Many" Android OEMs look set to release UbuntuFeb 12 04:38
TweetTuxMachines                 devices this year https://t.co/VNYKKUO15lFeb 12 04:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.neowin.net)Feb 12 04:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oif7iFeb 12 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | "Many" Android OEMs look set to release Ubuntu devices this yearFeb 12 04:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/698076987126976513Feb 12 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz What hypocrisy. 🙄😏 Political Corruption is Deviant Behaviour; and is discussed very well here... https://t.co/BRe2itT99OFeb 12 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> hubpages.com | Political corruption as deviant behaviorFeb 12 04:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/698077557560750080Feb 12 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Secrecy, evasion, denial and outright lies to avoid responsibility and accountability .../2 https://t.co/jF0bdNOuyQFeb 12 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Secrecy, evasion, denial and outright lies to avoid responsibility and accountability .../2 https://t.co/jF0bdNOuyQFeb 12 04:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/698077918660931584Feb 12 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz .../2 are core signs of political deviancy (and certain Presidential candidates) - but are NOT characteristic of Bernie SandersFeb 12 04:40
XRevan86What's political deviancy?Feb 12 04:40
schestowitzgood questionFeb 12 04:42
schestowitzI'm not too sure eitherFeb 12 04:42
schestowitzBut that's what Bezos' washpost accused Sanders ofFeb 12 04:42
schestowitzRemember that Sanders declared intent to go after like tax evaders like Bezos, who uses his 'news' paper, Washington Post, to attack SandersFeb 12 04:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Many" Android OEMs look set to release UbuntuFeb 12 04:49
TweetTuxMachines                 devices this year https://t.co/KlTliMxWVQFeb 12 04:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 04:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oif8zFeb 12 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | "Many" Android OEMs look set to release Ubuntu devices this year | Tux MachinesFeb 12 04:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Some Fresh #Radeon EXA/GLAMOR 2D AccelerationFeb 12 04:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Benchmarks https://t.co/T6vIwc5lL1Feb 12 04:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Some Fresh Radeon EXA/GLAMOR 2D Acceleration Benchmarks - PhoronixFeb 12 04:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi is the new target to trigger TizenFeb 12 04:50
TweetTuxMachines                 adoption rate https://t.co/NYG2Caqdh2Feb 12 04:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 12 04:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Raspberry Pi is the new target to trigger Tizen adoption rate - Tizen ExpertsFeb 12 04:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026820Feb 12 04:54
schestowitzhttp://www.infoworld.com/article/3032120/open-source-tools/vcs-who-miss-the-point-of-open-source-shouldnt-fund-it.htmlFeb 12 04:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Money In Open-Source Software http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/09/the-money-in-open-source-software/ #freeswFeb 12 04:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | The Money In Open-Source Software | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/oi2pq ]Feb 12 04:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | VCs who miss the point of open source shouldn't fund it | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oif9n ]Feb 12 04:54
schestowitz"Ah yeah, this response. I’m was starting to get worried about the authors until I read, “Intel.” The errors are not an accident, much if not all of Intel is on the wrong side of software freedom."Feb 12 04:54
schestowitzOf couse, though nvidia is worse in some aspectsFeb 12 04:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/marianico123/status/698083240234635265   https://twitter.com/marianico123/status/698083483781095424Feb 12 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marianico123: @JuanIgnacioCre1 https://t.co/icdUwftbPD este artículo que habla sobre españaFeb 12 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | New EPO Protests Amid Nervous Breakdowns of Spanish EPO Employee (After Institutional Bullying by Battistelli’s Goons), Spain Rejects the Unitary Patent (UPC) | TechrightsFeb 12 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marianico123: @eddyquemas https://t.co/icdUwftbPD lee este artículo compiFeb 12 05:12
schestowitzold:Feb 12 05:14
schestowitz"most of those fragments came from a Chinese anti-satellite test thatFeb 12 05:14
schestowitztargeted the Feng Yun-1C weather satellite in 2007 which created moreFeb 12 05:14
schestowitzthan 3,300 pieces of debris."Feb 12 05:14
schestowitzhttp://globalnews.ca/news/2453752/space-debris-how-dangerous-is-it-to-people-on-earth/Feb 12 05:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalnews.ca | Space debris: How dangerous is it to people on Earth? | Globalnews.ca [ http://ur1.ca/oifc7 ]Feb 12 05:14
schestowitzKessler SyndromeFeb 12 05:14
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schestowitzhttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/02/11/compare-mike-whitneys-truthful-account-of-syria-with-the-disinformation-published-by-the-washington-post/Feb 12 05:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.paulcraigroberts.org | Compare Mike Whitney’s Truthful Account Of Syria With The Disinformation Published By The Washington Post - PaulCraigRoberts.org [ http://ur1.ca/oiffa ]Feb 12 05:43
schestowitzMinceR: your take?Feb 12 05:43
schestowitz"There is no such thing as “the Syrian opposition.” The “opposition” consists almost entirely of the Washington-backed ISIS, which Washington sent to Syria to topple the government when Russia blocked the neoconized Obama regime from its plan to invade Syria. Washington, the presstitute media and various bought-and-paid-for “experts” pretend that ISIS is not really ISIS but a “democratic Syrian opposition.” Only an utter fool Feb 12 05:44
schestowitzcould believe this fantasy lie."Feb 12 05:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Back in 2010, Putin put into (slow)motion aFeb 12 05:51
TweetTuxMachines                 move to GNU/Linux." https://t.co/rImjHt5Sc1Feb 12 05:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (mrpogson.com)Feb 12 05:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Russia Going To GNU/Linux Late Rather Than Never | Robert PogsonFeb 12 05:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I’ve created a new runtime based on the latestFeb 12 05:52
TweetTuxMachines                 unstable gnome" https://t.co/uE9OhHV3AoFeb 12 05:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2016/02/11/testing-unstable-gnome-using-xdg-app/ )Feb 12 05:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Moderate reviews in GNOME SoftwareFeb 12 05:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JvwWPdpC3A (blogs.gnome.org) "itFeb 12 05:52
TweetTuxMachines                 does make reviewing comments easy."Feb 12 05:52
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MinceRschestowitz: sounds like putin apologismFeb 12 06:02
MinceRthough i suspect there's no force for democracy in syriaFeb 12 06:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation's big plan to speed upFeb 12 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 storage, networking https://t.co/niv94xfHNkFeb 12 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.infoworld.com) https://t.co/FGzCKLXhKOFeb 12 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | The Linux Foundation's big plan to speed up storage, networking | InfoWorldFeb 12 06:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisetech.com | Open Source Effort Targets Faster Nets, StorageFeb 12 06:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Endless joined GNOME Advisory BoardFeb 12 06:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | Endless joined GNOME Advisory Board | Georges StavracasFeb 12 06:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #BattlEye for Linux support, good news forFeb 12 06:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #Arma3 tooFeb 12 06:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | ARK: Survival Evolved devs throwing money at BattlEye for Linux support, good news for Arma 3 too | GamingOnLinuxFeb 12 06:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | BattlEye anti-cheat now supports Linux, already live in ARK: Survival Evolved | GamingOnLinuxFeb 12 06:21
MinceRhttp://fossbytes.com/apple-watch-users-complain-apple-watch-is-burning-our-skin/Feb 12 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Apple Watch Users Complain: “Apple Watch is Burning Our Skin” [ http://ur1.ca/oiflj ]Feb 12 06:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 12/2/2016: Russian's Government WithFeb 12 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux, India's Wants FOSSFeb 12 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pwfTstc84r (techrights.org)Feb 12 06:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/2/2016: Russian’s Government With GNU/Linux, India’s Wants FOSS | TechrightsFeb 12 06:41
cubexyzhave you heard that microsoft will remove the control panel?Feb 12 07:16
cubexyzmay as well, since users have no control anywaysFeb 12 07:16
MinceR:>Feb 12 07:21
MinceRthat would be more honest than what crApple doesFeb 12 07:21
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 12/2/2016: Russian's Government With GNU/Linux, India's Wants...'Feb 12 07:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With AndroidFeb 12 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (Linux), More Layoffs ReportedFeb 12 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HzTbNur97T (techrights.org)Feb 12 07:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With Android (Linux), More Layoffs Reported | TechrightsFeb 12 07:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/4z7zAkLVa8Feb 12 07:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 12 07:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Share your love for free softwareFeb 12 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8qjzSqHTPh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 07:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Share your love for free software | Tux MachinesFeb 12 07:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync withFeb 12 07:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian, Without Ubuntu Specific PatchesFeb 12 07:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jet88Rl0rR (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 07:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync with Debian, Without Ubuntu Specific Patches | Tux MachinesFeb 12 07:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives for Linux, Windows, andFeb 12 07:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Mac OS X https://t.co/Hoseb4wbGIFeb 12 07:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives for Linux, Windows, and Mac OS X | Tux MachinesFeb 12 07:22
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/wZ64Kv5Feb 12 07:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Common Sense - ImgurFeb 12 07:49
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cubexyzneurowhat?Feb 12 07:50
MinceR:)Feb 12 07:53
XRevan86cubexyz: People with alternative ways of thinking.Feb 12 07:59
cubexyzthat sounds like almost everybodyFeb 12 08:00
XRevan86cubexyz: Very alternative.Feb 12 08:00
cubexyzok :)Feb 12 08:00
cubexyzcan you give an example?Feb 12 08:01
XRevan86cubexyz: Schizophrenia should doFeb 12 08:01
XRevan86cubexyz: I suspect that guy made those terms up, but I'm pretty sure he meant all sorts of mental illnesses.Feb 12 08:02
cubexyzno, I think I've heard it used on tvFeb 12 08:02
cubexyzcould be new-ish Feb 12 08:02
XRevan86cubexyz: Great Maker.Feb 12 08:03
cubexyzjust google "neuroatypical" and there's tons of hitsFeb 12 08:03
cubexyzI haven't heard it before 2016 at any rateFeb 12 08:04
XRevan86How twisted can mainstream "tolerance" be?Feb 12 08:04
MinceR140311 < XRevan86> cubexyz: Great Maker.Feb 12 08:06
MinceRShai-Hulud?Feb 12 08:06
XRevan86MinceR: Babylon 5Feb 12 08:06
MinceRah, a memetic epidemicFeb 12 08:07
XRevan86MinceR: Huh?Feb 12 08:07
MinceRreligionFeb 12 08:08
XRevan86MinceR: http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Great_MakerFeb 12 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-babylon5.wikia.com | Great Maker - The Babylon Project - WikiaFeb 12 08:10
XRevan86MinceR: Religion from a TV series, yes.Feb 12 08:11
XRevan86> Wikipedia: Common sense is a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things, which is shared by ("common to") nearly all people and can reasonably be expected of nearly all people without any need for debateFeb 12 08:14
XRevan86apparently there's a need for debate about literally everythingFeb 12 08:15
XRevan86What about things sense of which are defined by that humanity in general and all (neurotypical %)) humans want?Feb 12 08:20
XRevan86Like keeping climate stable. It might not make sense from a future life form perspective that will see humans as some sorts of dinosaurs.Feb 12 08:21
XRevan86And if they are superior, then from a evolution perspective as wellFeb 12 08:21
XRevan86will be*Feb 12 08:22
cubexyzdinos just had very bad luckFeb 12 08:22
XRevan86It's human population that just wants to live on and future generations of humans to live on.Feb 12 08:22
XRevan86in better conditions than nowFeb 12 08:22
XRevan86cubexyz: Yes, but it doesn't really matter for future species who killed themselves and who didn't survive a meteorite.Feb 12 08:24
XRevan86Climate changed and dinos didn't survive that.Feb 12 08:24
XRevan86So, my point: common human sense says that pollution is bad.Feb 12 08:25
cubexyzyou mean machine life?Feb 12 08:26
XRevan86If common sense doesn't matter, then immidiate profits might even be better argumentally covered than solving global problems.Feb 12 08:26
cubexyzseems a bit dubiousFeb 12 08:26
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, I meant that some species will survive and adapt.Feb 12 08:27
cubexyzok, like insects could survive and humans die outFeb 12 08:27
XRevan86and become more advanced and powerful, and maybe even start being sentient (but probably not that).Feb 12 08:27
cubexyzmuch more probableFeb 12 08:27
XRevan86Sentience doesn't make much sense from evolution point of view.Feb 12 08:28
XRevan86He-he, who knows, maybe best course of action for the government is to drug every single human to stimulate happiness.Feb 12 08:30
cubexyzexcept almost all life has it to some degree :)Feb 12 08:30
XRevan86Even neurotypical human would say that's a terrible idea but will he have any real arguments except for vague meaningless of life?Feb 12 08:31
cubexyzwe are just a lot better at manipulating our environmentFeb 12 08:31
cubexyzand better at passing information from generation to generationFeb 12 08:31
XRevan86cubexyz: Humans are smart enough to manipulate environment.Feb 12 08:32
cubexyzevery animal does it thoughFeb 12 08:32
cubexyzbirds build nests, beaver builds damFeb 12 08:32
XRevan86cubexyz: Usually definition of sentience is being as smart as humans are.Feb 12 08:32
XRevan86cubexyz: It's instincts, not the same thing.Feb 12 08:32
XRevan86cubexyz: It's like comparing an AI and build_a_nest.soFeb 12 08:33
cubexyza baby beaver mimicks it's parents and learns from themFeb 12 08:33
cubexyzit isn't born with dam-building capabilityFeb 12 08:33
XRevan86cubexyz: That's better :)Feb 12 08:33
XRevan86cubexyz: Pity all those almost-as-smart-as-humans animals will die with humans.Feb 12 08:35
cubexyzsquirrels can problem solveFeb 12 08:35
cubexyzI've seen them do itFeb 12 08:35
cubexyzI doubt we could botch up stuff enough to kill all lifeFeb 12 08:36
cubexyzwe can't kill all mosquitoesFeb 12 08:36
XRevan86cubexyz: Mosquitoes are very adapting.Feb 12 08:36
cubexyzbut mosquitoes can kill all humans eitherFeb 12 08:36
cubexyzcan't ratherFeb 12 08:37
XRevan86cubexyz: Humans will botch until most of us will die.Feb 12 08:37
XRevan86are dead*Feb 12 08:37
XRevan86cubexyz: And humans are pretty good at survival.Feb 12 08:37
cubexyzhow do you envision that happening?Feb 12 08:37
XRevan86probably better than squirrelsFeb 12 08:37
cubexyzover population -> war ?Feb 12 08:38
cubexyzseems the most likelyFeb 12 08:38
XRevan86cubexyz: I was thinking about continuing pollution and ehancing sterilisation of houses.Feb 12 08:38
cubexyzon the other hand, cave men survived the last ice ageFeb 12 08:38
XRevan86like vacuum doors, advanced water filtersFeb 12 08:39
XRevan86Process will be slow enough for humans not to notice vacuum door is not just a goodie against city dust but an essential against toxic atmosphere.Feb 12 08:40
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, ice age was cold.Feb 12 08:42
XRevan86cubexyz: I think Future is tougher.Feb 12 08:43
XRevan86future will be tougher*Feb 12 08:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to run Windows programs on Linux withFeb 12 08:43
TweetTuxMachines                 CrossOver https://t.co/ipKrn9PUfLFeb 12 08:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 08:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to run Windows programs on Linux with CrossOver | Tux MachinesFeb 12 08:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With AndroidFeb 12 08:43
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (Linux), More Layoffs ReportedFeb 12 08:43
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/HzTbNur97T (techrights.org)Feb 12 08:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With Android (Linux), More Layoffs Reported | TechrightsFeb 12 08:43
XRevan86cubexyz: And I didn't even include war into the equation.Feb 12 08:44
XRevan86But it wouldn't be that bad, but certainly climate won't get better, only worse.Feb 12 08:48
XRevan86* it maybe wouldn'tFeb 12 08:49
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MinceRhttp://thenextweb.com/apple/2016/02/12/people-are-deliberately-bricking-their-iphones-by-going-back-in-time/Feb 12 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | People are deliberately bricking their iPhones by going back in timeFeb 12 09:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With AndroidFeb 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (Linux), More Layoffs ReportedFeb 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines @jrobertson     https://t.co/HzTbNur97T (techrights.org)Feb 12 10:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/698134521137516544Feb 12 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Watch Google U.K.’s boss conveniently forget how much he gets paid @schestowitz https://t.co/EfjfrB3djdFeb 12 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.digitaltrends.com | Google U.K. Boss Won't Tell Us His Salary | Digital TrendsFeb 12 12:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Leann02/status/698137664718032897Feb 12 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Leann02: @schestowitz @FreeMattDehart ty for sharing..God bless this man.Feb 12 12:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/larsmb/status/698142872726564864Feb 12 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@larsmb: @schestowitz That RH acquired InkTank does not mean no one else can contribute to the Open Source community. The opposite, actually ;-)Feb 12 12:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Kaspermok/status/698148388966158336Feb 12 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Kaspermok: @schestowitz is there any country that dont see it as a bunden?Feb 12 12:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives for Linux, Windows, andFeb 12 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Mac OS X https://t.co/HlHabqGN6sFeb 12 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 12 12:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives for Linux, Windows, and Mac OS XFeb 12 12:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to run Windows programs on Linux withFeb 12 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 CrossOver https://t.co/gKpTzpE9unFeb 12 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Feb 12 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​How to run Windows programs on Linux with CrossOver | ZDNetFeb 12 12:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/stedsimple/status/698196927419129856Feb 12 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stedsimple: @PatentWire @schestowitz Yay!Feb 12 12:30
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oiaohmMinceR: wonder if iphones fall for rogue ntp servers.Feb 12 12:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync withFeb 12 12:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian, Without Ubuntu Specific PatchesFeb 12 12:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EpBNJTsFR6 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 12 12:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 18.04 LTS' systemd Packages to Be Fully in Sync with Debian - UpdatedFeb 12 12:34
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MinceRoiaohm: :>Feb 12 12:35
oiaohmMinceR: like time.apple.com routed to own ntp server reporting that it is always  January 1, 1970  could be a good way to deinfect a business of iphonesFeb 12 12:38
oiaohmBecause time set in the device has to be lacking proper validation.Feb 12 12:39
MinceRoiaohm: :>Feb 12 12:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston,Feb 12 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME, KDE, EnlightenmentFeb 12 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zpj2KL911c (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston, GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment | Tux MachinesFeb 12 13:58
MinceR<@dfdashh> divVerent: all new in oracle 12c - auto-increment columns :PFeb 12 14:33
MinceR<@divVerent> now I finally know why they had to buy MySQLFeb 12 14:33
schestowitzinsurance planFeb 12 14:44
schestowitzA search for just the name of the EPO's President now yields several results in the front page bearing techrights, so the negative aspects have become more widely visible. https://www.google.es/search?q=+Beno%C3%AEt+Battistelli&btnG=Buscar&gbv=1 it gets funnier when you click "Images" in Google.Feb 12 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.es | Benoît Battistelli - Buscar con Google [ http://ur1.ca/oihjq ]Feb 12 14:48
schestowitz"Feb 12 14:50
schestowitzBenoît BattistelliFeb 12 14:50
schestowitzBenoît Battistelli is a French civil servant and current president of the European Patent Office. Before taking up this post, he was head of the French National Intellectual Property Institute. WikipediaFeb 12 14:50
schestowitzBorn: July 12, 1950 (age 65), Paris, FranceFeb 12 14:50
schestowitzEducation: École nationale d'administrationFeb 12 14:50
schestowitz"Feb 12 14:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Getting to Know Linux File PermissionsFeb 12 14:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Pinterest open-sources its Teletraan tool forFeb 12 14:56
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schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36094/Feb 12 15:15
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schestowitz"Feb 12 15:15
schestowitzI've heard this story, before.Feb 12 15:15
schestowitzMaybe the circumstance will be different enough to matter, this time... maybe not.Feb 12 15:15
schestowitz"Feb 12 15:15
schestowitzhttp://www.techworm.net/2016/02/russian-government-decided-to-join-the-linux-club.htmlFeb 12 15:16
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MinceRhttp://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/11/putin-threat-europe-islamic-state?CMPFeb 12 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Putin is a bigger threat to Europe’s existence than Isis | George Soros | Opinion | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/oihq1 ]Feb 12 15:23
schestowitzneed helpFeb 12 15:24
schestowitzany relation between this company and Microsoft? https://datafox.com/nowsecureFeb 12 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datafox.com | NowSecure Company Profile | Financial Information, Competitors and ExecutivesFeb 12 15:24
schestowitzLike board of directors, former staff etc.?Feb 12 15:24
schestowitzMinceR: Soros writes?Feb 12 15:25
MinceRapparentlyFeb 12 15:25
schestowitzMinceR: "The best way for Russia to avoid collapse is by making the EU implode first – by exacerbating the migration crisis and stoking Islamophobia"Feb 12 15:25
schestowitzBut his hypothesis is legitimateFeb 12 15:25
MinceRthe government of nazi hungary really hates soros nowFeb 12 15:25
schestowitzISIS is not a very potent threat hereFeb 12 15:26
schestowitzMinceR: I think Orban is OK with Putin, have they shaken hands yet?Feb 12 15:26
schestowitzIIRC, Soros escaped Hungary to escape the NazisFeb 12 15:26
MinceRprobablyFeb 12 15:26
MinceRprobably both before and after sexFeb 12 15:26
schestowitz!google orban putin shake handsFeb 12 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Putin finds warm welcome in Hungary, despite European chill ... | http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-hungary-putin-idUKKBN0LL1XP20150217Feb 12 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Trudeau government would stand up to Putin. What about to Orbán? | http://hungarianfreepress.com/2015/10/14/trudeau-government-would-stand-up-to-putin-what-about-to-orban/Feb 12 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Hungary and Russia: The Viktor and Vladimir show - Business Insider | http://www.businessinsider.com/hungary-and-russia-the-viktor-and-vladimir-show-2015-2Feb 12 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Hungary election: Viktor Orban's hold on the voters - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26866071Feb 12 15:27
schestowitzholycrapFeb 12 15:27
schestowitzso much JS in ruetersFeb 12 15:27
schestowitzfrom so many domains other than ReutersFeb 12 15:27
schestowitztrying to see the photos..Feb 12 15:28
schestowitzthey did some photo-opsFeb 12 15:28
schestowitzhttp://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150217&t=2&i=1025817126&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=644&pl=429&sq=&r=LYNXMPEB1G0PRFeb 12 15:28
schestowitzadd the captionFeb 12 15:28
schestowitzLOLLLLLL handshake: http://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150217&t=2&i=1025817125&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=644&pl=429&sq=&r=LYNXMPEB1G0PUFeb 12 15:28
schestowitzI think that answers my questionFeb 12 15:28
MinceRaccording to Balint Magyar and his co-authors, orban takes most of his methodology from putinFeb 12 15:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Benchmarks Of The ODROID-C2 64-Bit ARMFeb 12 15:29
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schestowitzhttps://ixquick-proxy.com/do/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2Fmrbpielglobal.edublogs.org%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Fchotiner-600-1ji4dhg.jpg&sp=e779fa5ae092715da0eeeee736c5d3e8Feb 12 15:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 toFeb 12 15:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: More adventures with Manjaro-ARM for the Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 12 15:29
schestowitzif putler goes ballistic, orban will have some 'splaining to doFeb 12 15:30
MinceRhe already has plentyFeb 12 15:30
MinceRbut most of the people of nazi hungary don't careFeb 12 15:30
schestowitzThat's like me shaking Sarah Sharp's hand for the camera in some linux conferenceFeb 12 15:31
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 to...'Feb 12 16:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/wiTiA5K8LEFeb 12 16:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 12 16:18
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/linking-to-unlawful-content-what-will.html?showComment=1455230451086#c2565588552966867590]Feb 12 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Linking to unlawful content: what will the CJEU say?Feb 12 16:35
schestowitz" Anonymous, did you get that info from February 3's hearing that Germany, Portugal, Slovakia and the Commission said that the link isn't a communication to the public? I'm from Canada, but I heard that from OpenMedia. "Feb 12 16:35
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/TTunN6HFeb 12 17:25
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cubexyzthis old cpu fan is acting a bit strangeFeb 12 21:19
cubexyzit works, I can see it spinningFeb 12 21:20
cubexyzbut about half the time it makes a loud whirrrrr soundFeb 12 21:20
cubexyzthen later on it stops, making almost no sound but still spinsFeb 12 21:20
MinceRstrange indeedFeb 12 21:29
MinceRmaybe it's dyingFeb 12 21:29
cubexyzmy P3 Katmai cpu fans still workFeb 12 21:29
cubexyzwell, all the fans work actuallyFeb 12 21:30
cubexyzat least 17 years oldFeb 12 21:31
cubexyzthe Amiga 500 turns 30 years old next year :)Feb 12 21:38
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MinceR:)Feb 12 21:43
MinceRthe end of hurd: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.htmlFeb 12 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | systemdFeb 12 21:46
cubexyznot sure what Hurd uses for initFeb 12 21:50
cubexyzit's not systemd thoughFeb 12 21:50
MinceRDMDFeb 12 21:50
MinceRor more accurately, GNU DMDFeb 12 21:51
cubexyzah rightFeb 12 21:51
MinceRbut it has to go as it's not bloated and fragile enoughFeb 12 21:51
MinceRand a multiserver microkernel system desperately needs a component that's prone to failure and can't be restarted gracefullyFeb 12 21:51
MinceRalso, they renamed GNU dmd to GNU ShepherdFeb 12 21:51
MinceRwhy rename something they want to kill?Feb 12 21:52
cubexyzI have a theory about why there's so much software churnFeb 12 21:52
cubexyzwhat I believe happens is the oldsters get bored/tired/disinterest in whatever project they worked onFeb 12 21:53
MinceRi just thought this is how the gratis windows foundation earns their funding from redcrapFeb 12 21:53
cubexyzoldster leaves... void is filled by newbie with their own ideasFeb 12 21:53
cubexyzproject morphes or diesFeb 12 21:53
MinceRnot really ownFeb 12 21:54
MinceRmore like m$'s/poettering'sFeb 12 21:54
cubexyzKDE is a perfect exampleFeb 12 21:54
cubexyzpoettering didn't invent UEFI :)Feb 12 21:56
cubexyzcan't blame him for everythingFeb 12 21:56
cubexyzblame him for polutting Linux, yesFeb 12 21:57
cubexyzpollutingFeb 12 21:57
MinceRprobably m$ didFeb 12 21:57
MinceRand i can blame poettering for forcing all the toxic m$ shit into */linux he couldFeb 12 21:58
cubexyzyes, Microsoft did have a hand in UEFI's inventionFeb 12 21:58
MinceRi suspect it was all m$ peopleFeb 12 21:58
MinceRwith an intel rubberstampFeb 12 21:58
MinceRit stinks of m$Feb 12 21:58
cubexyzAMI and the rest were never very helpful eitherFeb 12 21:59
cubexyzso yes, wintel is still alive and wellFeb 12 22:00
oiaohmTo be truthful the core part systemd depends on cgroups starts in hurd.Feb 12 22:00
MinceRirrelevanFeb 12 22:01
MinceRtFeb 12 22:01
MinceRmultiserver microkernel systems are about small components that can be restarted if they failFeb 12 22:01
MinceRsystemd is a huge monolithic hairball that holds a fuckton of state and very prone to failureFeb 12 22:01
cubexyzgoogle started cgroups from what I understandFeb 12 22:04
cubexyzit's a post 2.6.24 thingFeb 12 22:04
oiaohmcubexyz: the experiment came in hurd.   One thing hurd has been good for is a place to try out highly hazard stuff.Feb 12 22:05
cubexyzclearly we can live without cgroups thoughFeb 12 22:06
oiaohmMinceR:  http://www.sensi.org/~alec/unix/redhat/sysvinit.html  Can you list why we have to replace sysvinit.Feb 12 22:06
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oiaohmLot of saying that we can live without cgroups is not exactly understanding the problem.Feb 12 22:06
cubexyzoiaohm, I don't need cgroupsFeb 12 22:07
MinceRoiaohm: we don't have toFeb 12 22:07
cubexyzsimple :)Feb 12 22:07
MinceRoiaohm: we're not redhatFeb 12 22:07
oiaohmThis says head in sand.Feb 12 22:07
MinceRoiaohm: however, we can offer replacements for people to adopt.Feb 12 22:07
MinceRoiaohm: there's a difference.Feb 12 22:07
cubexyzI'm running games, server, video stuff on a collection of computersFeb 12 22:07
oiaohmWhy should you not use a PID to track processes?Feb 12 22:07
oiaohmUnder Linux.Feb 12 22:08
cubexyzso my cgroup is merely a different computer, see?Feb 12 22:08
MinceRoiaohm: now of course if you know that the replacement you'd develop is a horrible piece of shit, you have every reason for forcing people to switch to itFeb 12 22:08
cubexyze.g. this computer is the IRC group :)Feb 12 22:08
oiaohmMinceR: I have pushed for openrc in debian.Feb 12 22:08
MinceRoiaohm: if it was usable, if it worked, people would adopt it on their own. but if it's as shitty as cancerd, it has to be forced.Feb 12 22:08
cubexyzanother computer is the video computerFeb 12 22:08
oiaohmAnd I did not get it.Feb 12 22:08
cubexyzetc, etcFeb 12 22:08
MinceRoiaohm: i've seen debian's answers to openrcFeb 12 22:08
MinceR"it's not ready and we must switch NOW!"Feb 12 22:08
MinceRcompare to systemdFeb 12 22:08
MinceRit isn't ready, it will never be ready, it doesn't work, it will never workFeb 12 22:09
cubexyzoiaohm, I still use Unix v5 and 2.11BSD and 4.3BSD Feb 12 22:09
MinceR"got to adopt it NOW and force it on the users!"Feb 12 22:09
MinceRfuck debilian.Feb 12 22:09
cubexyzusing older tech is no problemFeb 12 22:09
oiaohmcubexyz: Unix v5 does not recycle PID numbers.Feb 12 22:09
MinceRthey're clueless and incompetent.Feb 12 22:09
cubexyzoiaohm, probably openbsd doesn't eitherFeb 12 22:09
oiaohmcubexyz: basically there is a bit of Linux kernel operation that makes it sysvinit incompadible.Feb 12 22:09
oiaohmcubexyz: openbsd rc depends on tty to track processes because it recycles PID numbers.Feb 12 22:10
MinceRoiaohm: oh, and by the way, cgroups doesn't even fucking work.Feb 12 22:10
cubexyzoiaohm, my FC1 server runs fine, and it is definitely pre-2.6.24 kernelFeb 12 22:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/mTTBLhRweEFeb 12 22:10
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MinceRhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/743970d2ea6d08aa7c7bff8220f6b7702f2b1db7Feb 12 22:10
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oiaohmMinceR: cgroup as a process tracking tag does always work.Feb 12 22:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux for your Loved OnesFeb 12 22:11
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MinceRhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170765Feb 12 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1170765 – systemd: all processes in scopes (including user sessions) SIGKILLed immediately on shutdown with no opportunity to shut down cleanly [ http://ur1.ca/ocua5 ]Feb 12 22:11
cubexyzit's 2.4.22 kernel Feb 12 22:11
MinceRoiaohm: the one technology cancerd is cargoculting can't do the job of a service manager.Feb 12 22:11
cubexyzso after 10 years it still works fine, I'm happy with itFeb 12 22:11
cubexyzsome even use 2.2 linux kernelFeb 12 22:11
MinceRoiaohm: cancerd as a service manager is a perfect failure.Feb 12 22:11
oiaohmMinceR: in fact cgroups had not be pushed in the Linux kernel before systemd.Feb 12 22:11
MinceRnobody cares.Feb 12 22:12
oiaohmSo it dug out a few kernel bugs.Feb 12 22:12
oiaohmIn fact first version of cgroups ie cgroups v1 is currently being completley scrapped and replaced with cgroup v2 in kernel.Feb 12 22:12
MinceRnobody cares.Feb 12 22:12
MinceRratcrap and their cult is fucking up software to force people to use cancerd NOW.Feb 12 22:13
MinceRit isn't fucking ready.Feb 12 22:13
MinceReven cgroups isn't fucking ready.Feb 12 22:13
cubexyzMinceR, even in Linuxland there's alternatives, lots of themFeb 12 22:13
MinceRthis has been going on for over 4 years, without improvement.Feb 12 22:13
cubexyzslackware for oneFeb 12 22:13
MinceRcubexyz: yeah, and you can see what treatment they get from the cultists.Feb 12 22:13
oiaohmMinceR: that nspawn error is caused by cgroup v1 design error.Feb 12 22:13
MinceRhttps://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.htmlFeb 12 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader [ http://ur1.ca/oijqj ]Feb 12 22:14
MinceRhttp://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/03764.htmlFeb 12 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: careful review of kdbus [ http://ur1.ca/n2vc5 ]Feb 12 22:14
oiaohmMinceR: firmware driver drop was directed by kernel that has a in kernel space firmware loader.Feb 12 22:14
MinceRoiaohm: debilian has come out with an allegedly "stable" version of their alleged OS that forces people to use systemd.Feb 12 22:14
MinceRoiaohm: meanwhile, systemd still can't do its fucking job as an alleged init system properly.Feb 12 22:14
MinceRthis is a colossal fuckupFeb 12 22:15
oiaohmcgroup working correct to it can be used required higher up take rate.Feb 12 22:15
MinceRso broken shit has to be forced into mission critical environments?Feb 12 22:16
MinceRno fucking way.Feb 12 22:16
oiaohmComplaining about udev firmware loading disappear means that you don't know that to be include in kernel drivers were forbin from using that since 2003.Feb 12 22:16
cubexyzI don't see any big problem, just use the software you likeFeb 12 22:16
cubexyzthat's my advice Feb 12 22:16
MinceRthis is not software engineering, this is dangerous idiocy, this is incompetence.Feb 12 22:16
oiaohmUnless you are running really old software the udev change should do nothing.Feb 12 22:16
MinceRthis is every bit of the malicious systematic fucking up people fled windows for.Feb 12 22:16
MinceRudev is toxic, linux should stop depending on it.Feb 12 22:17
cubexyzI wanted to keep KDE 3.5.10 so I did :)Feb 12 22:17
oiaohmudev predateds systemd by a long way.Feb 12 22:17
MinceRoh, and that alleged "stable" version of debilian came out months agoFeb 12 22:17
MinceRdoesn't matter, they've assimilated it.Feb 12 22:17
oiaohmIn fact part of the systemd process has seen unused code like the udev firmware loader stripped out of it.Feb 12 22:17
MinceRnobody cares.Feb 12 22:18
oiaohmFunny as soon as it not going the way you want is magically nobody cares.Feb 12 22:18
MinceRfunny, the way i want is "reliable and secure"Feb 12 22:18
MinceRit's sad that it is not your way.Feb 12 22:18
MinceRit is sad that it's not debilian's or ratcrap's way.Feb 12 22:19
cubexyzno one likes slack? :)Feb 12 22:19
oiaohmRemember VM being hacked by floppy drive  MinceRFeb 12 22:19
MinceRapparently.Feb 12 22:19
MinceRoiaohm: remember shells not saving history on shutdown.Feb 12 22:19
MinceRoiaohm: remember computers not booting due to systemd bugs in alleged "stable" release.Feb 12 22:19
MinceRoiaohm: think about which you'd want running on your life support.Feb 12 22:19
oiaohmsysvinit systems not booting happened before systemdFeb 12 22:20
MinceRthe one that has some extra unused code but _works_ or the one that kills you?Feb 12 22:20
oiaohmNot like the system was bugless before it.Feb 12 22:20
MinceRjust a lot less buggyFeb 12 22:20
oiaohmNot really.Feb 12 22:20
MinceRand a lot more mature by the time systemd was forced on people.Feb 12 22:20
MinceRyes really.Feb 12 22:20
oiaohmMulti partition loads under sysvinit in a lot of cases lead to horible problems.Feb 12 22:20
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Adoption_and_receptionFeb 12 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | systemd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 12 22:21
oiaohmBecause the core partitions had not be mounted by the initrdFeb 12 22:21
oiaohmLot issues was caused with distrobutions fighting with systemd over boot up.Feb 12 22:21
MinceRevery distribution with a date in the "Date released as default" column is an unstable, unreliable, insecure toy system not worth relying on.Feb 12 22:21
cubexyzwouldn't every *nix have to recycle PIDs eventually?Feb 12 22:21
MinceRand those are most of the "major" distrosFeb 12 22:21
oiaohmcubexyz: in fact no some unix when they get to max PID simple kernel panic and reboot.Feb 12 22:22
MinceRcubexyz: not once they integrate everything in pid1Feb 12 22:22
MinceRapparently multiprocessing is something that happens to other people.Feb 12 22:22
MinceRooh, "some unix"Feb 12 22:22
MinceRlet me guess.Feb 12 22:22
MinceRit's fucking slowlaris again, right?Feb 12 22:22
oiaohmcubexyz: system V is in that class.Feb 12 22:22
cubexyzI'll ask the oldsters in TUHSFeb 12 22:22
cubexyzoiaohm, what about very old Unix like v5?Feb 12 22:23
MinceRsomeone completely fucked up their unix imitation and now it's an excuse for everything.Feb 12 22:23
MinceRi'm fucking tired of these drooling idiots posing as software engineers and fucking up everything for everybodyFeb 12 22:23
oiaohmcubexyz: I would have to look it up.   PID recycling is fairly new.   It was mostly believed the Unix systems would not run long enough to get to max.Feb 12 22:23
cubexyzold process ends, new process can reuse the PID yes?Feb 12 22:23
MinceRthey should be locked in their playpen and prevented from doing any more damageFeb 12 22:24
MinceRcubexyz: if its parent has waited on it, yesFeb 12 22:24
MinceRwell, the dave cutler school of OS "design" will ensure that systems would not run long enough to get to maxFeb 12 22:24
MinceRyou can count yourself lucky if they even manage to bootFeb 12 22:25
cubexyzwell init stays PID 1 I know thatFeb 12 22:26
cubexyzso that's an exceptionFeb 12 22:26
oiaohmcubexyz: a lot use a simple next PID is +1 to the old PID in the non recycling.Feb 12 22:26
cubexyzswapper is usually PID 2Feb 12 22:26
cubexyzhow large a number can PID be?Feb 12 22:26
MinceRat least 16 bitsFeb 12 22:26
MinceRnot sure if signedFeb 12 22:27
cubexyzon FC1 (running well over one year now) my largest PID is 22000Feb 12 22:27
oiaohmMinceR: unsigned.Feb 12 22:27
MinceRand pid0 is probably unavailableFeb 12 22:27
MinceRas fork() can't return that to the parentFeb 12 22:27
cubexyzoiaohm, the PIDs on my server seem pretty stableFeb 12 22:28
cubexyzI'll snapshot it from week to week to check moreFeb 12 22:28
cubexyzmy STIME on some PIDs is 2014 :)Feb 12 22:28
MinceRshows you're not running systemdFeb 12 22:29
oiaohmhttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/16883/what-is-the-maximum-value-of-the-pid-of-a-process   This is the scary part Linux PID values are not that large.Feb 12 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unix.stackexchange.com | What is the maximum value of the PID of a process? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange [ http://ur1.ca/oijs9 ]Feb 12 22:30
cubexyzwhat is it 65536?Feb 12 22:30
cubexyzor 65535 maybeFeb 12 22:30
cubexyzoh it is signed? that's weirdFeb 12 22:31
MinceRyeah, that's the scary partFeb 12 22:31
oiaohm32768 for 32 bit and 22 to the 2 or 4 million for 64 bit.Feb 12 22:31
oiaohmThat is all the PID numbers Linux has.Feb 12 22:31
MinceRnot that an unreadable hairball is forced onto allegedly free systems by fascistoid cultistsFeb 12 22:31
oiaohmAfter it allocated all those it has to start recycling.Feb 12 22:31
oiaohmor kernel panic or fail to start processes.Feb 12 22:32
cubexyzthe kernel PIDs don't seem to changeFeb 12 22:32
cubexyz1,2,3,4 etcFeb 12 22:32
oiaohmWhen you think it can be starting a many new PIDs per web request on a server it does not take that long to spin through 4 million.Feb 12 22:33
MinceRunless it's using a thread poolFeb 12 22:33
MinceRor process poolFeb 12 22:33
oiaohmMinceR: PHP does not.Feb 12 22:33
cubexyzsure, someone could be DOSing your serverFeb 12 22:33
MinceRkeep a bunch of workers alive, hand out work to themFeb 12 22:33
MinceRlol phpFeb 12 22:33
cubexyzbut you could restart apache or somethingFeb 12 22:33
MinceRwell, i guess it's possible to do worse than phpFeb 12 22:33
MinceRyou could be using asp or asp.netFeb 12 22:34
cubexyznot me!Feb 12 22:34
cubexyzperish the thoughtFeb 12 22:34
oiaohmSo reality is sysvinit had to be replaced by something.Feb 12 22:34
MinceRi wonder when will poettering realize that iis, asp and asp.net are so great their "design" has to be forced on unix webservers tooFeb 12 22:34
oiaohmLinux + sysvinit was equallying problems.Feb 12 22:34
MinceRoiaohm: no, it didn't have to be replaced by anythingFeb 12 22:35
MinceRno, not equal problemsFeb 12 22:35
cubexyzoiaohm, but Radio Shack and tons of companies ran sysv on XenixFeb 12 22:35
oiaohmMinceR: or the Linux kernel had to be replaced or altered.Feb 12 22:35
MinceRa small bit of c code and a bunch of simple shell scripts are far easier to maintain and understandFeb 12 22:35
cubexyzand I don't remember hearing about problemsFeb 12 22:35
MinceRoiaohm: i know! kdbus will totally fix it!Feb 12 22:35
cubexyzgas stations ran XenixFeb 12 22:35
MinceRstill not as bad as RHELl 7Feb 12 22:36
oiaohmTo keep sysvinit as it was PID had to be made non recycling like make PID max a 64 bit number.Feb 12 22:36
MinceRactually, pidfiles are unlikely to cause issues even thenFeb 12 22:36
MinceRalso, you're again ignoring the fact that a service manager can run outside pid1, even alongside sysvinitFeb 12 22:36
cubexyzyou would have to fork bomb to run out of PIDsFeb 12 22:36
MinceReven multiple service managers, if you want itFeb 12 22:37
MinceRall sysvinit has to do is reap zombiesFeb 12 22:37
MinceRwhich, by the way, cancerd ALSO fails at.Feb 12 22:37
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cubexyzI see exactly two defunct processes, both from sshdFeb 12 22:37
oiaohmTo be correct the cases of systemd not reap zombies also applied sysvinitFeb 12 22:38
cubexyzafter 462 days (so far)Feb 12 22:38
MinceRyet i see no zombies on sysvinit systemsFeb 12 22:38
MinceRand i've seen reports of zombies on systemd systemsFeb 12 22:38
oiaohmMinceR: are you running cgroup management.Feb 12 22:38
MinceReven though sysvinit systems have been around for _far_ longerFeb 12 22:38
MinceRnoFeb 12 22:38
oiaohmLike lxc or docker.Feb 12 22:38
oiaohmThat is way.Feb 12 22:38
oiaohmBug in lower cgroup code leading to zombie not finding way to process 0Feb 12 22:39
MinceRmy init system is not cargo culting cgroupsFeb 12 22:39
MinceRso the almighty cgroups are fucked up and now this is somehow sysvinit's fault?Feb 12 22:39
oiaohmSystemd made the problem visable.Feb 12 22:39
MinceRwhich was around for decades before cgroups?Feb 12 22:39
oiaohmsysvinit also had issue with chroots at times for the same reason.Feb 12 22:40
MinceRdoes systemd somehow destroy users' reasoning abilities or what?Feb 12 22:40
cubexyzit totally does!Feb 12 22:40
oiaohmThe start of bug was added to Linux kernel in 1993Feb 12 22:40
MinceRguess what, i can even build a kernel without fucking cgroups supportFeb 12 22:40
MinceRand then it won't generate these zombiesFeb 12 22:40
oiaohmThe start of the bug that causes zombies not to reaped starts in 1993 in chroot code.Feb 12 22:41
cubexyzyou install windows 10 then your entire computer is a zombieFeb 12 22:41
oiaohmNot detected properly until systemd started using cgroup heavily.Feb 12 22:41
MinceRsysvinit starts in 1983Feb 12 22:41
MinceRso apparently chroot support and/or cgroup support somehow gained access to a fucking time machineFeb 12 22:42
MinceRwent back in time to 1983Feb 12 22:42
MinceRand introduced bugs into sysvinitFeb 12 22:42
oiaohmI did not say where that bug was copied form.Feb 12 22:42
MinceRnotice that even Linux didn't exist in 1983Feb 12 22:43
oiaohmSystem V implementation of chroot was what Linux one was based on.Feb 12 22:43
cubexyzsysvinit started as sys3 initFeb 12 22:43
MinceRalso, there are plenty of service managers that rely on being the parent process of the daemons they runFeb 12 22:43
MinceRnone of them are impacted by the pid reuse issueFeb 12 22:43
oiaohmThis is a bug that has come forwards and forwards and forwards.Feb 12 22:43
MinceRmost of them can run as any pid you'd likeFeb 12 22:44
oiaohmWhat happens when a feature does not have a proper test suite.Feb 12 22:44
oiaohmThe mess of systemd has at long last got the Linux kernel adding a mainline test suite.Feb 12 22:44
MinceRregardless of how poettering wishes it was, cancerd is _not_ necessary to fix this.Feb 12 22:44
MinceRand in fact, it doesn't!Feb 12 22:44
MinceRpity it didn't result in a test suite being added to the management of distributions like debilianFeb 12 22:45
cubexyzand FC1 does reuse PID for sureFeb 12 22:45
oiaohmIts funny how many faults blamed on systemd in fact predate it massivelyFeb 12 22:45
MinceRmaybe it would have prevented them from betraying their alleged values and their usersFeb 12 22:45
MinceRit's funny how many faults blamed on sysvinit have nothing to do with sysvinitFeb 12 22:45
oiaohmNot being safe against PID recycling is a sysvinit design selection because sysvinit manaul for sysvinit scripts tell you to track services by PID values.Feb 12 22:46
MinceRdoes that somehow prevent you from instead having services not fork (or double fork) and track them as child processes?Feb 12 22:46
oiaohmSo we need a new manual telling people to redo their scripts not needing it.Feb 12 22:46
MinceRa new manual is preferable to a malicious hairball with no documentation, that's for sureFeb 12 22:47
cubexyzyup, my max pid is 32768Feb 12 22:47
oiaohmPID limit is what made staying with sysvinit the way it was not possible.Feb 12 22:48
oiaohmIf you are getting away with it with sysvinit you are just being lucky.Feb 12 22:48
oiaohmopenrc still had the anti-cgroup camp against it. and the I stupidly keep on pushing sysvinit camp that was broken so go in ignore pile.Feb 12 22:49
MinceRyeah, the stupid anti-cgroup camp resisted the Holy Cgroup, even though we all know cgroup is fucking brokenFeb 12 22:50
MinceRhow dare they!Feb 12 22:50
cubexyzit wraps the PID and then just skips over PIDs that are in useFeb 12 22:50
oiaohmIf everyone who had been pushing for sysvinit instead had pushed for openrc that was a working option with optional cgroup usage.Feb 12 22:50
oiaohmThe vote would have gone the other way in debian.Feb 12 22:50
cubexyzvery simple systemFeb 12 22:50
MinceRoiaohm: can you explain to me how it is impossible to run runit under sysvinit and have runit manage services?Feb 12 22:51
MinceRno, the vote would not have gone any other way for a simple reasonFeb 12 22:51
MinceRthe leadership of debilian was compromisedFeb 12 22:51
MinceRprobably via gnomeFeb 12 22:51
MinceRsee the tie-breaking of the TC vote.Feb 12 22:52
MinceRabsolutely corrupt.Feb 12 22:52
MinceRand the path that led there also shows that debilian's leadership is corruptFeb 12 22:52
oiaohmMinceR:  if you leave sysvinit you will have places making stuff up stream keep on pushing out sysvinit only scripts that don't use runit.Feb 12 22:52
MinceRoiaohm: i don't care. properly written daemons are easy to start in nonforking modeFeb 12 22:52
oiaohmThis case you do need the new init system to either wrap over the sysvinit script so sysvinit running under it or demard new scripts.Feb 12 22:53
MinceRor i can write new scriptsFeb 12 22:53
MinceRand upstream can provide support for runitFeb 12 22:53
oiaohmDebian had runit in for years and name how many sevices requested it.Feb 12 22:53
MinceRnow, on the other hand, if upstream introduces gratuitous dependencies on systemd, that's more difficult to fix.Feb 12 22:53
oiaohmMinceR: the answer is 0Feb 12 22:53
MinceRoiaohm: it's not up to the services to decide what service manager i use.Feb 12 22:54
oiaohmThe reality we had a mess.Feb 12 22:54
MinceRoiaohm: it's up to me.Feb 12 22:54
oiaohmSevices provide the default scripts.Feb 12 22:54
MinceRoiaohm: looks like you've already forgot this old model where poettering wasn't in charge of all decisions about what happens on a */linux system.Feb 12 22:54
oiaohmIn fact most services under debian did not provide scripts for runit.Feb 12 22:54
MinceRi don't give a fuck about the default scripts.Feb 12 22:54
oiaohmOr any other init systems bar sysvinit.Feb 12 22:55
MinceRif i want to, i'll run the service from GNU screen from the command line.Feb 12 22:55
oiaohmSo most cases you could not change init systems.Feb 12 22:55
oiaohmSo debian init neturality was mostly a joke.Feb 12 22:55
MinceRif i want to, i'll run it from any service manager i want to run it from.Feb 12 22:55
MinceRno, it was notFeb 12 22:55
cubexyzwrite your own service manager :)Feb 12 22:55
MinceRdebian7 didn't self-destruct because i didn't want to replace half of my userland with malware.Feb 12 22:56
oiaohmMinceR: lot of services would play up if you did put them under tracking service managers.Feb 12 22:56
MinceRnowadays i'm told that this is impossibleFeb 12 22:56
MinceReven as i'm still doing it!Feb 12 22:56
MinceRoiaohm: lots of software is crap.Feb 12 22:56
MinceRoiaohm: that's no excuse for forcing even more crap software on everyone.Feb 12 22:57
MinceRespecially not if it's even more crap!Feb 12 22:57
MinceRhell, debian7 debootstrap lets you install a system without cancerdFeb 12 22:57
oiaohm2002 debian passed that all packages was to support 3 init systems.Feb 12 22:57
MinceRthey fucked that up in debilian 8 for the sake of forcing cancerd on usersFeb 12 22:57
oiaohmThat got ignored.Feb 12 22:57
MinceRand when devuan folks fixed it, debilian didn't integrate the patch.Feb 12 22:58
oiaohmsystemd fairly much dropped hammer.Feb 12 22:58
MinceRooh, worship the almighty hammer!Feb 12 22:58
MinceRif you love centralized control so much, why don't you use windows?Feb 12 22:58
MinceRm$ calls all the shots thereFeb 12 22:58
MinceRyou can see how well it worked outFeb 12 22:58
oiaohmControl was already centralised on sysvinit that did not work in all cases.Feb 12 22:58
MinceRand yet it worked far more reliably than systemdFeb 12 22:59
MinceRand it still doesFeb 12 22:59
oiaohmSystemd has now stuffed it up public enough that people have to talk about it.Feb 12 22:59
cubexyzyes, I mentioned my uptime :)Feb 12 22:59
MinceRand it did even before poettering decided it would be fun to turn gnu/linux into windowsFeb 12 22:59
oiaohmSo in that reguard it been sucessful.Feb 12 22:59
MinceRbut for the sake of foisting malware onto people, we must now pretend that sysvinit was so brokenFeb 12 23:00
MinceRand it must be replaced with something that's not only a lot more broken, but is also unfixableFeb 12 23:00
MinceRgreat plan, isn't it?Feb 12 23:00
oiaohmNot pretend sysvinit was broken.Feb 12 23:00
MinceRso logicalFeb 12 23:00
MinceRread all the wordsFeb 12 23:00
MinceRthey're thereFeb 12 23:00
cubexyzFC1: 22:59:42 up 462 days, 10:31, 7 users, load average: 0.07, 0.11, 0.09Feb 12 23:00
MinceRi can still see them.Feb 12 23:00
oiaohmBut due to people having head in sand that sysvinit was broken we got stuck with system.Feb 12 23:00
oiaohmopps systemdFeb 12 23:00
MinceRoh huhFeb 12 23:00
MinceRwhat do you call people pretending that cgroups can be used for reliable process management?Feb 12 23:01
MinceRwhat's their head in?Feb 12 23:01
MinceRa blender?Feb 12 23:01
cubexyzextra dense sand :)Feb 12 23:01
oiaohmReally debian vote most likely would have went to openrc if the people who would not vote because sysvinit had been removed had instead voted openrcFeb 12 23:01
MinceRdoesn't matterFeb 12 23:01
oiaohmSame with many of the other Distrobution votes.Feb 12 23:01
oiaohmSame failure happened over and over again.Feb 12 23:02
MinceRdebian has failed to live up to its promisesFeb 12 23:02
MinceRthey've sold out to RHFeb 12 23:02
MinceRand the FSF apparently also sold out to RHFeb 12 23:02
oiaohmWho was maintaining sysvinit by the way MinceRFeb 12 23:02
MinceRand RH sold out to m$Feb 12 23:02
MinceRoiaohm: i don't know, i don't care.Feb 12 23:02
oiaohmFunnyFeb 12 23:02
oiaohmSysvinit was maintained by RedhatFeb 12 23:02
MinceRoiaohm: one of the excuses was that it wasn't updated for so longFeb 12 23:02
MinceRguess whyFeb 12 23:02
MinceRbecause it was mature.Feb 12 23:03
MinceRunlike cancerdFeb 12 23:03
oiaohmMature was a good excuse never to fix it faults or even consider it had faults.Feb 12 23:03
MinceRwhich has spent over 4 years of being forced onto users who allegedly are receiving a "stable" systemFeb 12 23:03
MinceRand it still doesn't fucking work!Feb 12 23:03
cubexyzwhoever maintains sysvinit-utilsFeb 12 23:03
MinceRit still needs a lot of things to be fixed so that it can do its most basic job rightFeb 12 23:03
oiaohmopenrc 2005 started by gentoo because gentoo worked out sysvinit was stuffed.Feb 12 23:03
MinceRand yet it's doing hundreds of other tasks, most of them also atrociouslyFeb 12 23:03
oiaohmopenrc was the older solution.Feb 12 23:04
oiaohmThat worked.Feb 12 23:04
MinceRoiaohm: so, how often does sysvinit fail to shutdown a system properly?Feb 12 23:04
cubexyzMiquel van SmoorenburgFeb 12 23:04
oiaohmMinceR: lot more than you think.Feb 12 23:04
MinceRoiaohm: how often does sysvinit decide that fsck has worked for long enough and it's now time to ignore it and resume booting?Feb 12 23:04
cubexyzsend patches to: sysvinit-devel@nongnu.orgFeb 12 23:05
MinceRoiaohm: how often does sysvinit fail to boot because the computer has no internet connection?Feb 12 23:05
oiaohmMinceR: sysvinit cannot force a service to stop if it fails the stop script and hangs a sysvinit system will not shut down.Feb 12 23:05
MinceRoh reallyFeb 12 23:05
MinceRi wonder what's that whole "remount everything readonly; send SIGTERM to everybody; wait; send SIGKILL to everybody; shutdown" thing is forFeb 12 23:05
oiaohmMinceR: no oh really its sysvinit design to depend on scripts means it shutdown is depending on the grace of god.Feb 12 23:05
MinceRwell, i guess remounting happens laterFeb 12 23:06
MinceRyou'll notice a little detail that somehow eluded systemdFeb 12 23:06
MinceRwaiting for processes to exit gracefully before forcibly terminating them!Feb 12 23:06
oiaohmMinceR: the remount everything read only is not in upstream sysvinitFeb 12 23:06
MinceRwell, it looks like my god (myself) is pretty fucking gracefulFeb 12 23:06
cubexyzin the old days we just sync;sync;sync then hit off switchFeb 12 23:07
MinceRfunny, i'm pretty sure i've seen it in every distro i triedFeb 12 23:07
cubexyzthere wasn't even a shutdown or haltFeb 12 23:07
oiaohmMinceR: every distrobution was patching sysvinit down stream.Feb 12 23:07
MinceRnow imagine trying to patch cancerd downstreamFeb 12 23:07
MinceRwading through cryptic uncommented masses of codeFeb 12 23:08
oiaohmMinceR: as cubexyz said sync, sync ,sync kill power that is how sysvinit was upstream still coded for.Feb 12 23:08
MinceRbeing exposed to attacks from upstream for not transmitting the gospel as it isFeb 12 23:08
MinceRoiaohm: why does sysvinit upstream have support for shutting down the system, then?Feb 12 23:08
MinceRwhy does sysvinit have special handling for those signals at all?Feb 12 23:08
oiaohmMinceR: handling those singles does not mean you have todo it sanely.    sysvinit thought you want to power off while you filesystems were writable.Feb 12 23:09
MinceRat least on sysvinit it's possible to run an anonymous vpn serviceFeb 12 23:10
MinceRhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2447Feb 12 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | journal ip anonymization · Issue #2447 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/oijy1 ]Feb 12 23:10
cubexyzI'm not saying sysvinit was perfect, but it did work for meFeb 12 23:12
MinceRit worked for me tooFeb 12 23:12
MinceRand it worked for the sysadmins i know struggle with cancerd bugsFeb 12 23:12
MinceRand it works for the privacy-respecting vpn services tooFeb 12 23:13
oiaohmMinceR: it is possible to build systemd without journald but its not offered that way.Feb 12 23:13
oiaohmMinceR: but at least this is a valid complaint that needs improvement.Feb 12 23:14
MinceRoiaohm: yet for some unfathomable reason, the closest anyone came to offering this atrocity with a reasonable logging service involves letting systemd-journald fuck around with every line of log before passing it onFeb 12 23:14
MinceRthat complaint will not be improved.Feb 12 23:14
MinceRIntolerant Regent P has spokenFeb 12 23:15
MinceRthe bug is closedFeb 12 23:15
MinceRratcrap doesn't care about your use casesFeb 12 23:15
MinceRend of story.Feb 12 23:15
cubexyzexcept for old redhat and old fedora :)Feb 12 23:15
MinceRthose are unsupportedFeb 12 23:15
MinceRthen again, i doubt anything from ratcrap was ever supportedFeb 12 23:15
MinceRwhen their attitude can be summed up as "the nsa's wishes are more important than yours; now hand us your money and fuck off"Feb 12 23:16
cubexyzI bet they would if you give them enough $$$Feb 12 23:16
MinceRi doubt itFeb 12 23:16
MinceRand i don't see why anyone would want to do business with a company like thatFeb 12 23:16
cubexyzok, well I'm the support for FC1Feb 12 23:16
MinceR:>Feb 12 23:17
cubexyzthe world's last oneFeb 12 23:17
MinceRbut hey, we can finally have multiseat serversFeb 12 23:17
oiaohmMinceR: rsyslog has a over wrapper log program as well to prevent application lieing about who it is.Feb 12 23:17
MinceRthat's such an important use caseFeb 12 23:17
oiaohmMinceR: so there was a need for a log wrapper.Feb 12 23:17
oiaohmMinceR: and we really did not need 40 of them.Feb 12 23:18
MinceRoiaohm: now if only you could have your daemons log directly to rsyslog on a lendows systemFeb 12 23:18
MinceRbut you can't.Feb 12 23:18
oiaohmWriting straight into rsyslog you can lie.Feb 12 23:18
MinceRand writing through systemd-journald, you can sanitize your logs _after_ they've been sent off to the nsaFeb 12 23:19
MinceRand a copy kept in RAM in case they come a-knockin'Feb 12 23:19
oiaohmOther option is allowing choice of wrapper.Feb 12 23:19
MinceRallowing choice?Feb 12 23:19
MinceRthat doesn't exist in the lendows worldFeb 12 23:19
MinceROne Man, One Vote.Feb 12 23:19
oiaohmchoice of wrapper exists in openrcFeb 12 23:19
MinceRpoettering is the Man, he has the Vote.Feb 12 23:19
MinceRlendows does not support openrcFeb 12 23:20
MinceROne Microsoft WayFeb 12 23:20
cubexyzI'm sure some distro does support openrcFeb 12 23:20
MinceR"Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."Feb 12 23:20
oiaohmGentoo folks woke up 2005Feb 12 23:20
MinceRi'm sure ratcrap will try to put hard dependencies on cancerd in every piece of software they can reachFeb 12 23:20
oiaohmEveryone else kept head in sand.Feb 12 23:21
oiaohmSo leading to this problem.Feb 12 23:21
MinceRgnome and kde already have hard dependenciesFeb 12 23:21
MinceRall wayland implementations already have hard dependenciesFeb 12 23:21
oiaohmif you mean logind that is not a hard dependencyFeb 12 23:21
MinceRwhat would cancerd fans say if microsoft used these tactics against them?Feb 12 23:21
oiaohmThat was decided before systemd even started.Feb 12 23:21
oiaohmlogind is in consolekit2 by the way.Feb 12 23:22
MinceRyeah, "it's not a dependency on internet explorer, it can be satisfied by anything that provides the same apis as internet explorer"Feb 12 23:22
MinceRit's 2016, am i really expected to be that stupid?Feb 12 23:22
oiaohmlogind api was designed before systemd.Feb 12 23:22
MinceRit still sucksFeb 12 23:22
MinceRit's still a dbus-based atrocityFeb 12 23:23
oiaohmIt might sux but its not something you can blame systemd for.Feb 12 23:23
MinceRi can not blame systemd for what a systemd component does?Feb 12 23:23
oiaohmdbus atrocity predates systemd by a long way.Feb 12 23:23
MinceRwhat am i supposed to blame for it? sysvinit?Feb 12 23:23
oiaohmWe ignored how bad dbus was and hoped it would go away.Feb 12 23:23
MinceRyes, there are other atrocious poetteringware besides systemdFeb 12 23:23
MinceRyes you did.Feb 12 23:24
oiaohmProblem did not pay to ignore it.Feb 12 23:24
MinceRand once they make your software depend on it, you'll be in the front line, fighting on their behalf.Feb 12 23:24
oiaohmJust like ignoring that sysvinit design did not work with the Linux kernel.Feb 12 23:24
MinceRand that's how m$ and ratcrap turned the free software community against itself.Feb 12 23:24
oiaohmEvery one of the times we decided to ignore stuff has created were we are now.Feb 12 23:25
MinceRignoring the sysvinit design?Feb 12 23:25
MinceRi wonder where all these alternative init systems and service managers came fromFeb 12 23:25
oiaohmNone of the alternative init systems got treated as anything more than a toy by main players.Feb 12 23:25
oiaohmRight.Feb 12 23:25
MinceR"main players", also known as red hatFeb 12 23:26
oiaohmThat right every one of them got threated as a toy because sysvinit was perfect.Feb 12 23:26
MinceRi wondered what happened to the "Bazaar"Feb 12 23:26
oiaohmNo main players are places like postgresql orcale apache .....Feb 12 23:26
MinceRbecause this sure as hell isn't that.Feb 12 23:26
MinceRooh, obstacleFeb 12 23:26
oiaohmThe parties making all the services we depend on.Feb 12 23:26
MinceRfaithful follower of redcrapFeb 12 23:26
MinceRi don't depend on fucking obstacle or apacheFeb 12 23:26
oiaohmBazaar without standards and quality controls is a dangerous place.Feb 12 23:27
MinceRhttp://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/app-postgres.htmlFeb 12 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Documentation: 8.2: postgresFeb 12 23:27
MinceR"By default postgres starts in the foreground and prints log messages to the standard error stream."Feb 12 23:27
MinceRdoesn't sound like it would need a lot of supportFeb 12 23:27
MinceRit already does the right thing by defaultFeb 12 23:28
MinceRor is writing "postgres" into a text file somewhere such an insurmountable challenge?Feb 12 23:28
oiaohmLook a little deeper you will find it used PID to tell if processes are still running.Feb 12 23:28
MinceR"Bazaar" with "standards" written by someone who's working out of m$'s book is a dangerous place indeedFeb 12 23:29
MinceRwho is "it"?Feb 12 23:29
oiaohmMinceR: postgres uses PID following the same mistake of sysvinitFeb 12 23:29
oiaohmWe have a messFeb 12 23:30
MinceRwill it cease to use PID when ran under cancerd?Feb 12 23:30
oiaohmWill not matter as much when you can shove it in a PID name space in a cgroup so preventing other processes entering it PID number space.Feb 12 23:30
MinceRso, noFeb 12 23:30
MinceRso, how is this an argument for cancerd?Feb 12 23:31
oiaohmBut that requires init system that support cgroups.Feb 12 23:31
oiaohmSo either it has to be fixed Feb 12 23:31
MinceRand as discussed already, using cgroups for service management doesn't fucking workFeb 12 23:31
MinceRwaitFeb 12 23:31
MinceRthose processes are children of postgres, aren't they?Feb 12 23:31
oiaohmNot all of them.Feb 12 23:32
oiaohmpostgres can start as 3 split partents.Feb 12 23:32
MinceRi don't understand thatFeb 12 23:32
MinceRanyway, if it's so, then postgres needs to be fixedFeb 12 23:32
oiaohm1 running database provide.Feb 12 23:33
oiaohm2 running replicationFeb 12 23:33
oiaohm3 running backup.Feb 12 23:33
MinceRinstead of hijacking the whole OS to allegedly solve a problem and ending up not solving it at allFeb 12 23:33
oiaohmopenrc uses cgroups and would fix this.Feb 12 23:33
MinceRas long as the child process is yours and you haven't wait()ed on it, it doesn't matter if you read its pid back from a fileFeb 12 23:33
oiaohmDon't have to go to systemd to fix this.Feb 12 23:33
MinceRit won't be replaced by another processFeb 12 23:34
MinceRwhat about cgmanager?Feb 12 23:34
oiaohmAs long as you spent the time doing a lot longer configuration.Feb 12 23:34
oiaohmYes cgmanager correctly configured could address it but you are talking large messy configuration.Feb 12 23:35
oiaohmAnd I will be very happy to see cgmanager die with cgroup v2Feb 12 23:36
MinceRyes, you'll be very happy to see cgroup becoming systemd-onlyFeb 12 23:36
MinceRand i'll probably be very happy disabling it in the kernel configuration as it's broken anywayFeb 12 23:36
MinceRand i'll probably be very happy moving to NetBSD or OpenBSD and finally be free (if only for a while) of this idiocyFeb 12 23:37
oiaohmcgroup v2 reduced cgroup to a single tree design.Feb 12 23:38
oiaohminstead of multi tree from hell design.Feb 12 23:38
MinceRi wonder what happened to testing software in a non-critical environment before deploying it in a critical environmentFeb 12 23:38
MinceRprobably the same thing as what happened to thinking first and writing code afterwardsFeb 12 23:39
MinceRi guess i'm just too old for this shit.Feb 12 23:39
oiaohmThat has never been true for the Linux kernel until 2014Feb 12 23:39
MinceRi think there was plenty of software for which it was trueFeb 12 23:39
MinceRincluding some gnu/linux distributionsFeb 12 23:39
oiaohmMinceR: the Linux kernel only gets a in kernel source test kit to be run when the kernel is developed in 2014Feb 12 23:39
MinceRwhich of course shipped linuxFeb 12 23:40
MinceRa "test kit" is not the only way to test softwareFeb 12 23:40
oiaohmIts not the only way but its kinda the min you want to see.Feb 12 23:40
MinceRi doubt it can even replace running code on non-critical systems and seeing how it performsFeb 12 23:41
MinceR(including of course running tests of the service you intend to deploy on it)Feb 12 23:42
oiaohmRunning on non critical systems without a test kit may look perfect because you never tested the functionality that was broken.Feb 12 23:42
oiaohmAnd find out latter it was.Feb 12 23:42
MinceRi'm pretty sure i would notice that my applications didn't save their settings/history on shutdownFeb 12 23:42
oiaohmMaking a test kit to work out all the functionality you need is a good thing.Feb 12 23:42
MinceRi'm pretty sure i don't have to risk lives to test such thingsFeb 12 23:42
MinceRsure, but it's not the only thingFeb 12 23:43
oiaohmI see test kit as bare min.Feb 12 23:43
MinceRand it can't be guaranteed to have 100% coverage, so it won't obsolete other testsFeb 12 23:43
oiaohmIf you don't have a basic test kit you are not even sure basic functionality works.Feb 12 23:43
MinceRit should have been trivial to roll out systemd to a testing release, see how it behaves, then roll it back before making a stable releaseFeb 12 23:44
MinceRthat can be repeated until it works or until you give up on systemd.Feb 12 23:44
oiaohmNot exactly trivial.Feb 12 23:44
MinceRcertainly better than rolling it out on testing, seeing that it sucks but forcing it into "stable" anywayFeb 12 23:44
oiaohmDebian run into problem where some maintain services would not make init files for systemd to let systemd be worked out.Feb 12 23:44
MinceRi wonder why someone wouldn't write unit files for systemdFeb 12 23:45
MinceRthe systemd people are so nice, aren't they?Feb 12 23:45
oiaohmAnd they were not writting tests for systemd either.Feb 12 23:45
MinceRthey totally don't give hundreds of reasons to not want to work with themFeb 12 23:45
oiaohmFor debian to complain about faults.Feb 12 23:45
MinceRthey would surely never say things like "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."Feb 12 23:45
MinceRoh wait.Feb 12 23:45
oiaohmGentoo deleted maintainers accounts who did not support openrc that worked.Feb 12 23:46
MinceRpoettering's cult routinely close bugs that affect many people but the nsa doesn't mind havingFeb 12 23:46
oiaohmNeed to go over those bugs more careful.   Large percentage like programs sending logging data that they should not is a issue under sysvinit windows osx solaris....Feb 12 23:48
MinceRand yet with a sane logging system it's relatively easily worked aroundFeb 12 23:49
oiaohmBasically there are a lot of problems some are init side and there is a hell load service side.Feb 12 23:49
MinceRbasically the architecture of lendows is completely wrongFeb 12 23:49
oiaohmMinceR: systemd you can pass through to send logging to /dev/nullFeb 12 23:49
MinceRand yet it will stick around in RAMFeb 12 23:50
MinceRand it will be leaked to who knows hereFeb 12 23:50
MinceRs/here/w&/Feb 12 23:50
MinceRhas anyone audited systemd-journald?Feb 12 23:50
MinceRwill they audit the next version that's churned out in a few days?Feb 12 23:50
oiaohmMinceR: redirect logging to /dev/null in the container of the service and journald does not see the log at all.Feb 12 23:53
MinceRor just overwrite your lendows install with a free unix and journald won't even be installed, let alone allowed to run!Feb 12 23:54
oiaohmDisable logging collection per service is the same under sysvinit were you have to modify how to start up to do it cleanly.Feb 12 23:55
MinceRexcept under sysvinit, you're allowed to use a logging service of your choiceFeb 12 23:55
MinceRand there are plenty of sane choicesFeb 12 23:55
oiaohmReally it shows how many have been doing it wrong with filters in rsyslogFeb 12 23:55
MinceRunder cancerd, your logs pass through journald, which is untrustworthyFeb 12 23:55
oiaohmAs that is the wrong answer.Feb 12 23:55
MinceRyeah, if they're not doing what poettering is telling them, they must be wrongFeb 12 23:56
oiaohmNo poettering did not give answer to this.Feb 12 23:56
MinceRthey must instead fix every service separately... and if they miss one, that's just too badFeb 12 23:56
oiaohmRecommendation for killing logging is 1982 USA milFeb 12 23:56
MinceRand it's a lucky day for the nsaFeb 12 23:56
oiaohmFor pivacy.Feb 12 23:56
oiaohmBy sending to /dev/nullFeb 12 23:57
oiaohmWhat I said is not a new recommendation.Feb 12 23:57
MinceRyeah, there's no middle roadFeb 12 23:57
MinceReverything that was written on that ticket was a mere illusion.Feb 12 23:57
oiaohmThere is just you missed it.Feb 12 23:57
MinceRuh huhFeb 12 23:57
oiaohmIf I can redirect service logging to /dev/null so prevent journald seeing it why cannot I redirect it anywhere else through anything else.Feb 12 23:58
MinceRwhy should i let people like poettering hijack the OS on my computers at all?Feb 12 23:58
MinceRthey keep giving me new reasons to not want to deal with them in any wayFeb 12 23:59
oiaohmSystemd provides default logging.   Not logging that cannot be overridden.Feb 12 23:59
MinceRjust _default_ logging that cannot be overridden.Feb 12 23:59
MinceRand if you miss one service and forget to redirect it... see above, good day for the nsa.Feb 12 23:59
MinceRor you could skip all that extra work and use an os that was designed by people who knew what they were doing.Feb 13 00:00
oiaohmIf you use any logging the NSA can have methods of getting it.   Feb 13 00:00
cubexyzlog to printer :)Feb 13 00:00
oiaohmSo you want audited code.Feb 13 00:00
MinceRif i ensure that my logs do not have the sensitive info in them, whatever the nsa gets is uselessFeb 13 00:01
MinceRand yes, i want audited codeFeb 13 00:01
MinceRwhich means i don't want something that needlessly consists of tens of megabytes of source codeFeb 13 00:01
MinceRi could use all those man hours and all that money for something valuableFeb 13 00:01
MinceRinstead of having people trying to decipher whatever poettering and his interns vomited onto disk.Feb 13 00:02
MinceRwho knows, if my OS wasn't an entry in the Who Can Make Code More Bloated competition, maybe i could even afford to mathematically prove its correctnessFeb 13 00:02
MinceRbefore the expected lifetime of the universe expires!Feb 13 00:03
cubexyzyou'd like Unix v5, it's totally straightforwardFeb 13 00:03
MinceRi liked gnu/linux before poettering and his pals fucked it upFeb 13 00:04
oiaohmLots of ways gnu/linux has been horiblely screwed up before poettering.Feb 13 00:04
cubexyzok, FC1, slack, AntiX, Q4os, and probably other onesFeb 13 00:04
oiaohmglibc versioning thingFeb 13 00:05
oiaohmcomes to mind.Feb 13 00:05
MinceRthere were screwups in gnu/linux earlier, therefore we must fuck it up completely!Feb 13 00:05
MinceRyeah, totally sound reasoning.Feb 13 00:05
MinceRwhy fix bugs when you can just introduce even more bugs instead?Feb 13 00:05
MinceRit's certainly easierFeb 13 00:05
oiaohmIt called the critical point factor.Feb 13 00:06
MinceRit's called insanityFeb 13 00:06
cubexyzcan firefox do a find like: ^cat ?Feb 13 00:06
oiaohmWhile faults are minor enough humans will ignore them.Feb 13 00:06
MinceRregex find in page? doesn't seem to support thatFeb 13 00:06
oiaohmAt critical point humans start fixing the faults.Feb 13 00:07
cubexyzmaybe there's a pluginFeb 13 00:07
MinceRoiaohm: that's not what's happening hereFeb 13 00:07
oiaohmIts sad we had to get as bad a systemd to trigger critical point.Feb 13 00:07
cubexyzdoh, not available in firefox 16Feb 13 00:07
MinceRhere at the critical point humans started competing on who could introduce more severe design flawsFeb 13 00:07
oiaohmMinceR: it is what is happening here.Feb 13 00:07
MinceRit's sad it had to be an attack on all other unixes as wellFeb 13 00:08
oiaohmIf people were looking for design flaws sysvinit would have been nuked in the first 2 years of Linux and replaced.Feb 13 00:08
MinceRsysvinit was easy to replaceFeb 13 00:08
MinceRcancerd isn't.Feb 13 00:08
MinceRthis is not a coincidence.Feb 13 00:08
oiaohmsysvinit was easy to replace <<<excuse to not bother auditing it and fixing it.Feb 13 00:08
MinceRyes, that must be why s6, runit, sinit, minit, jinit, dmd, etc. don't exist.Feb 13 00:09
MinceRnote that those are also easy to replaceFeb 13 00:09
MinceRagain, not a coincidenceFeb 13 00:09
oiaohmAgain excuse.Feb 13 00:10
cubexyzyes, that's a good pointFeb 13 00:10
cubexyzmodularity is importantFeb 13 00:10
oiaohmWe have many options all flawed in different ways since we can replace them all simply we don't have to fix any of them.Feb 13 00:10
MinceRall these pretty much aim to do one thing and do it right.Feb 13 00:10
MinceRcompare it to cancerd, which tries to do all the things and do them wrong.Feb 13 00:10
oiaohmMinceR: not one you listed is without a documented bug.Feb 13 00:10
MinceRoohFeb 13 00:10
MinceRsoftware that has bugsFeb 13 00:10
MinceRa novel concept!Feb 13 00:11
oiaohmBugs that have stayed in place documented for 10 + years?Feb 13 00:11
MinceRyet they somehow manage to manage processes and even shut downFeb 13 00:11
MinceRsomething, you'll note, cancerd is still incapable of.Feb 13 00:11
oiaohmReality is we no fix has been happening.Feb 13 00:11
MinceRoh, and boot tooFeb 13 00:11
oiaohmWhy systemd thought they could get away with such crap code is because the other init systems were let slide with crap code.Feb 13 00:12
MinceRthey'll all be fixed before cancerd will be fixedFeb 13 00:12
MinceRno, that's not the reasonFeb 13 00:12
oiaohmSystemd issues don't start with just the birth of systemd.Feb 13 00:12
MinceRnone of them are nearly as crap as cancerdFeb 13 00:12
MinceRcancerd will just keep introducing new features per the CADT modelFeb 13 00:12
MinceRmaybe it will eventually be rewrittenFeb 13 00:12
MinceRit will never be fixedFeb 13 00:12
MinceRhttps://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.htmlFeb 13 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | The CADT ModelFeb 13 00:13
MinceRby the way, was the DNS cache in cancerd fixed yet?Feb 13 00:14
oiaohmRefering to them implementing dnssecFeb 13 00:15
MinceRi think it was more about not blindly trusting unauthoritative answersFeb 13 00:15
MinceR(which pretty much all DNS caches get right by now, at least on unix)Feb 13 00:15
MinceRi'm sure there will be some idea of new functionality that could be added to systemd that will be shiny (unlike fixing this vulnerability), and as such will have infinitely higher priorityFeb 13 00:16
oiaohmTurned out glibc default dns resoveler was worst on trusting than systemd one.Feb 13 00:16
oiaohmThat was a imported bug.Feb 13 00:16
MinceRout of how many?Feb 13 00:16
MinceRcohesion is not rocket science, nor is it specific to unix.Feb 13 00:17
oiaohmsystemd resolver over trusted like the glibc resolver but did not have the remote exploit.Feb 13 00:17
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29Feb 13 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cohesion (computer science) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jrpbq ]Feb 13 00:17
MinceRit was part of my software engineering trainingFeb 13 00:17
MinceRwhy does redhat not employ a single person who is aware of this principle?Feb 13 00:18
oiaohmWhen systemd was fixing the resolver they have decided to implement dnssec while they are at it.Feb 13 00:18
MinceRhttp://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/People_d26472_256610.jpgFeb 13 00:18
oiaohmMinceR: most systems were overriding the default glibc resolver so it bug had gone not noticed and it resolver had never been audited.Feb 13 00:19
MinceRi wonder why they were overriding itFeb 13 00:20
MinceRperhaps because it was known to be crap?Feb 13 00:20
oiaohmBecause it did not cacheFeb 13 00:20
oiaohmAll systemd did was implement the glibc resolver with a cache.Feb 13 00:20
MinceRah, so poettering was the only person who discovered the secret of how to add caching on top of the default glibc resolver?Feb 13 00:21
MinceRhe must be some kind of genius.Feb 13 00:21
oiaohmEveryone else used bsd resolver not gcc one.Feb 13 00:21
oiaohmAnd embedded that in there code base.Feb 13 00:21
oiaohmopps not gcc/glibcFeb 13 00:21
cubexyzelinks has regex searchFeb 13 00:21
MinceRbasically the fact that systemd sucks so hard is anyone's fault except systemd's authors'Feb 13 00:22
MinceRsomehowFeb 13 00:22
oiaohmyou did not ask me who wrote the glibc resolver.Feb 13 00:22
MinceRreality turns itself out of its own asshole to preserve the glory of systemd!Feb 13 00:22
oiaohmRedhat developer Feb 13 00:22
MinceRdoesn't matter at this pointFeb 13 00:22
oiaohmWho happens to be working on systemd.Feb 13 00:22
oiaohmLets say how to lack auditing.Feb 13 00:23
MinceRby writing megabytes of uncommented spaghetti code?Feb 13 00:23
MinceRseems to be working fine for ratcrapFeb 13 00:23
oiaohmTo be truthful the resolver in systemd is cleaner than the one in glibc.Feb 13 00:23
oiaohmIt was only written in 1994 and patched for ipv6 in 2004-2005 in glibc then not touched again.Feb 13 00:24
MinceRinexplicably, i fail to be impressedFeb 13 00:24
oiaohmThere are a lot of places in Linux that need a good audit.Feb 13 00:25
oiaohmThe point of view it works it don't need auditing is not really good.Feb 13 00:25
MinceRseems to me there are places where taking a glance at the architecture would be sufficientFeb 13 00:25
oiaohmSome places the fact that specs are missing should be enough to raise alarm.Feb 13 00:26
oiaohmHey we have a library here half the functions don't have any documentationFeb 13 00:26
oiaohmAnd that is glibcFeb 13 00:26
MinceRi've seen that kind of codeFeb 13 00:26
MinceRin systemdFeb 13 00:26
MinceRexcept there it wasn't just half the functionsFeb 13 00:27
MinceRit was pretty much all of themFeb 13 00:27
oiaohmThe very core library most linux dependon.Feb 13 00:27
MinceRno, i'm pretty sure the kernel does not depend on libc :>Feb 13 00:27
oiaohmIt depends on klibc that is in some ways worse documented.Feb 13 00:27
MinceRso, another can of wormsFeb 13 00:27
oiaohmThis is why I say systemd was required.Feb 13 00:28
oiaohmThere are huge numbers of cans worms that require exterminating.Feb 13 00:28
MinceRto add some more design flaws and bugs?Feb 13 00:28
MinceRi don't think extermination works that way.Feb 13 00:29
oiaohmWe had to get bad enough that people start thinking that code auditing is required feature of development.Feb 13 00:29
MinceRespecially then the demonstrative bundle of bugs that was dumped on top is forced on everyone and is worshiped like a god.Feb 13 00:29
MinceRactually, a design review would have caught thisFeb 13 00:29
MinceRand so would have a code reviewFeb 13 00:29
cubexyzwhat about openbsd and older Unix? Feb 13 00:30
MinceRafaik openbsd is regularly subject to auditingFeb 13 00:30
oiaohmopenbsd has mandated by process code reviews and documentation.Feb 13 00:30
oiaohmSomething Linux desperately needs.Feb 13 00:30
MinceRso does GNUFeb 13 00:31
cubexyzis klibc a Linux thing?Feb 13 00:31
cubexyzit's not in old Unix, I just checkedFeb 13 00:31
MinceRcancerd doesn't, as the result is easy to know already: "this whole thing goes into the dumpster, and these people may take another shot at learning software engineering, or look for a career choice they can fail less hard at"Feb 13 00:31
MinceRif i did shit like that, i would not have any degrees.Feb 13 00:32
oiaohmcubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klibc  yep. Linux thing.Feb 13 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | klibc - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 13 00:32
oiaohmcubexyz: most klibc applications are stopped at end of init process.Feb 13 00:33
oiaohmcubexyz: opps initrd process.Feb 13 00:33
oiaohmI hope systemd works to wake up code auditing and other things.   Then hell will have been worth it.   At least it got the kernel to have a in kernel tree testsuite so one someone complains X feature no longer works they know its not them and its the other idiot at fault.Feb 13 00:35
oiaohmYes systemd is party that has caused the Linux kernel to grow a testsuite.Feb 13 00:36
MinceRwas practically killing off at least 9 major distros and hurd worth it?Feb 13 00:36
oiaohmSo if it was replaced now it would leave being a legacy of some good.Feb 13 00:36
oiaohmWhat majors.Feb 13 00:37
MinceRfedora, mageia, opensuse, arch, coreos, rhel, sles, ubuntu, debianFeb 13 00:37
oiaohmIt has not killed them.Feb 13 00:38
oiaohmUpset users yes.Feb 13 00:38
MinceRgranted, in a way they've proven their own incompetence, but i suspect this might be simply a case of entryism in some cases (like debian)Feb 13 00:38
oiaohmbut not killed them.Feb 13 00:38
MinceRwhat is the purpose of an allegedly stable distribution?Feb 13 00:39
oiaohmPoor grade auditing how could you claim stable in the first place.Feb 13 00:39
MinceRirrelevantFeb 13 00:39
oiaohmIts 100 percent relevant.Feb 13 00:39
oiaohmsystemd is no more buggy that prior stuff debian had accepted.Feb 13 00:40
MinceRthey've all shipped known bad design and known bad code despite plenty of warnings in one (and in some cases several) releases that were alleged by them to be "stable"Feb 13 00:40
MinceRas a sysadmin, would i be doing my job by relying on them for stable OSes in the future?Feb 13 00:40
oiaohmsysvinit had plenty of warning it had issues and they shipped that anyhow.Feb 13 00:40
MinceRof course not!Feb 13 00:40
MinceRso what purpose do these distros serve now?Feb 13 00:40
oiaohmLot of large system admins like systemd more than sysvinit because systemd is being more truthful.Feb 13 00:41
MinceRtruthful about what?Feb 13 00:42
oiaohmNot being a large system admin you missed the stuff they were complaining about with sysvinit.Feb 13 00:42
MinceRwhen did they admit they were forcing shit on users?Feb 13 00:42
oiaohmLike reporting services as running when they were dead and the like.Feb 13 00:42
MinceRhow do i miss data loss?Feb 13 00:42
MinceRhow do i miss my laptop failing to boot at all?Feb 13 00:42
oiaohmServers rarely reboot.Feb 13 00:42
MinceRservers are not targeted by systemdFeb 13 00:42
oiaohmServers are targeted by systemdFeb 13 00:42
MinceRshow me one server that needs multiseat.Feb 13 00:43
MinceRshow me one server that doesn't need log rotation.Feb 13 00:43
MinceRshow me one server that doesn't need to be stable or secure.Feb 13 00:43
oiaohmmultiseat gpu splitting are releated.   Required when dealing with evil nvidia cards that required a X11 server per processing application on server.Feb 13 00:43
MinceRirrelevantFeb 13 00:44
oiaohmSorry noFeb 13 00:44
oiaohmYou asked me to show you one server that needs multiseat they exist.Feb 13 00:44
oiaohmservers using gpu acceleration made by nvidia.Feb 13 00:44
MinceRsorry, who gets to use the input devices on a headless server doing number crunching is irrelevantFeb 13 00:44
oiaohmNvidia graphics driver plays up if it cannot find a fake input device.Feb 13 00:45
MinceRfact is, those nine allegedly major distros have utterly failed at the job of a distroFeb 13 00:45
oiaohmNvidia driver optimised for desktop.Feb 13 00:45
oiaohmbeing used in server.Feb 13 00:45
oiaohmSo creating ouch.Feb 13 00:45
MinceRwithout messing by ratcrap they might have avoided being degraded to this pointFeb 13 00:45
MinceRlast time i checked, the nvidia drivers were optimized for opengl graphics workstation usageFeb 13 00:46
oiaohmExaclty must have X11 server and input devices.Feb 13 00:46
MinceRespecially without gnome and kde pushing ratcrap's agendaFeb 13 00:46
oiaohmOnly this year has Nvidia at long last released a headless driverFeb 13 00:46
oiaohmSo until this year multi seat was required.Feb 13 00:47
MinceRi'm not buying itFeb 13 00:47
oiaohmIn sections of the server world.Feb 13 00:47
oiaohmThe abblity to pass from journald striaght out to rsyslog for off server logging is a server world feature.Feb 13 00:48
MinceRif your number-crunching server has issues of the wrong x server getting input from an input device plugged into the server, you're doing something wrong.Feb 13 00:48
MinceRno, the ability to pass logs from journald is a pathetic attempt to work around an enormous design flaw that hurts servers more than desktops.Feb 13 00:48
oiaohmMinceR: Look closer at systemd multi seat it allows creating seats with fake input devices not connected to screen.Feb 13 00:48
MinceRhttps://geekwhisperin.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bug-vs-feature.jpgFeb 13 00:48
MinceRoiaohm: i think x lets you start without input devicesFeb 13 00:49
MinceRi remember seeing a setting for thatFeb 13 00:49
oiaohmLot of bugs was caused by systemd multi seat behaving on desktop like it was on servers.Feb 13 00:49
oiaohmMinceR: Nvidia driver attempts to access input device no input device die.Feb 13 00:49
oiaohmMinceR: why it attempts to access input device is to guess where mouse pointer is.Feb 13 00:50
oiaohmMinceR: or going to be ahead of time.Feb 13 00:50
MinceRso basically multiseat support is important in 2015 and 2016 because nvidia can't write driversFeb 13 00:50
MinceRthat's brilliantFeb 13 00:50
MinceRtypical systemd approach to "problem solving"Feb 13 00:50
oiaohmYes that is the truth.Feb 13 00:50
MinceRwhat are these people smoking?Feb 13 00:51
oiaohmNvidia only had this bug since 2000 so they never considered Nvidia would fix it.Feb 13 00:51
oiaohmsystemd development is a lot more server driven than it appears.Feb 13 00:52
oiaohmAnd since it been tested for server deployment more than desktop it turned nasty on desktop.Feb 13 00:53
MinceRyeah, servers desperately need the extra downtime provided by systemdFeb 13 00:53
MinceRand all that pointless desktop ricingFeb 13 00:54
oiaohmSad but systemd systems are showing lower down time on crashed services than sysvinit equals.Feb 13 00:54
oiaohmdue to true state reporting.Feb 13 00:54
MinceR[citation needed]Feb 13 00:54
oiaohmWas at the systemd conference in those videos.Feb 13 00:55
MinceRooh, they said at the systemd conference, it's got to be true!Feb 13 00:55
oiaohmNow of course they did not bench against openrcFeb 13 00:55
MinceRs/at/it &/Feb 13 00:55
MinceRthey did not bench jack shitFeb 13 00:56
MinceRthey said what their fellow cultists wanted to hearFeb 13 00:56
oiaohmNo these were operational records.Feb 13 00:56
MinceRkept by what, journald?Feb 13 00:56
oiaohmnormal service uptime monitoring suites.Feb 13 00:57
oiaohmSo computer outside computer monitoring that services are up and working correctly.Feb 13 00:57
oiaohmPersonally I beleive openrc vs systemd openrc would have won.Feb 13 00:57
MinceRpersonally i believe that no amount of equivocation and lying will make systemd workFeb 13 00:58
oiaohmIts the loop of PID around leading to sysvinit missing when a service had died.Feb 13 00:58
MinceRjust as it didn't make winblows and OSuX stop sucking eitherFeb 13 00:58
MinceRthe fact is, the only way software can be improved is by working on itFeb 13 00:58
MinceRspreading lies and making up shit won't do it.Feb 13 00:58
oiaohmNot everything systemd said was lies.Feb 13 01:00
oiaohmYes they were correct sysvinit was broken.Feb 13 01:00
MinceRthey must have made a mistakeFeb 13 01:00
MinceRi'm sure it wasn't intentionalFeb 13 01:00
oiaohmRedhat tried upstart before coding systemd to attempt to get away from broken sysvinit  Then ubuntu CLA would not let them submit patches.Feb 13 01:01
MinceRah yes, upstart, the init system that looks good only in comparison to systemdFeb 13 01:01
MinceRmust have been a great relief to upstart "developers"Feb 13 01:01
MinceR"finally somebody came up with something that sucks even harder than our work!"Feb 13 01:02
oiaohmupstart using ptrace makes systemd in lots of use cases look good.Feb 13 01:02
MinceRand yet upstart somehow manages to stick to its own jobFeb 13 01:02
MinceRand somehow manages to not cargo-cult cgroupsFeb 13 01:02
oiaohmptrace can trace of processes can make 60% of your cpu disappear into ptrace on particular workloads.Feb 13 01:02
MinceRgood thing cancerd doesn't waste cpu, right?Feb 13 01:03
oiaohmNot at that level.Feb 13 01:03
MinceRit would not be the #1 cpu user at all timesFeb 13 01:03
oiaohmNot on my system.Feb 13 01:03
MinceRlike this: https://blind.guru/daemon-cpu.htmlFeb 13 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blind.guru | I am sorry, but this looks insaneFeb 13 01:03
MinceRoh, rightFeb 13 01:03
MinceRit's not on your system so it must be a lieFeb 13 01:03
MinceRnotice how the top 3 spots are held by poetteringwareFeb 13 01:04
MinceRhm, apparently cancerd itself was #3Feb 13 01:04
MinceRstill ahead of any applicationsFeb 13 01:04
oiaohmMinceR: my top two are normally X11 and iceweaselFeb 13 01:08
MinceRmaybe in a few releases systemd will be bloated enough so you might enjoy it using more cpu than applications too!Feb 13 01:09
oiaohmapache is ahead of dbus on this system most of the time.Feb 13 01:09
MinceRsystemd. Doesn't use as much cpu time as iceweasel yet!(tm)Feb 13 01:10
oiaohmFew recent updates of dbus has seen it drop.Feb 13 01:10
oiaohmThat why I said on this system.Feb 13 01:10
MinceRi like my service managers leave some time for the actual services to run, but i guess that's just meFeb 13 01:10
oiaohmsystemd is running under 0.01Feb 13 01:11
oiaohmpercent of cpu time adveraged.Feb 13 01:11
MinceRwhat about the TIME column?Feb 13 01:11
oiaohmand that is mostly normal.Feb 13 01:11
MinceRcpu time used since process start summed upFeb 13 01:11
oiaohmSitting about the same level as network manager.Feb 13 01:13
oiaohmStill bugger all percentage.Feb 13 01:13
MinceRif upstart had a scope similar to that of systemd, it would have been much more difficult to replace upstart with systemdFeb 13 01:13
MinceRmaybe then we'd hear the praises of upstart moreFeb 13 01:14
oiaohmMost likely same list of complaints as well.Feb 13 01:14
MinceRmoral of the story: the more atrocious your software is, the more it will be loved by the masses.Feb 13 01:14
oiaohmI will give you a few versions back systemd was eating a lot more cpu time.Feb 13 01:14
oiaohmbiggest annoynace is how much ram it still eating.Feb 13 01:15
oiaohmLot of that is auto translation of old sysvinit files.Feb 13 01:15
oiaohmMinceR: also atrocious software can in fact improve to everyone shock horror at times.Feb 13 01:17
MinceRthey had plenty of time to improve their atrocious software.Feb 13 01:17
MinceRin fact, a strong contender for Shittiest Distro Of All Time, fedora, has released 9 allegedly "stable" releases that force useds to endure systemd on their computers.Feb 13 01:18
MinceRmaybe fedora "developers" need to be informed that "stable" does not mean what they think it meansFeb 13 01:18
oiaohmIf you read fedora release requirements no release is stable.Feb 13 01:19
MinceRor if i look at the process listFeb 13 01:19
MinceRor if i look at the previously linked table on wikipediaFeb 13 01:19
oiaohmSystemd presense does not have to equal unstable.Feb 13 01:19
MinceRwell, in the hypothetical universe where systemd is not a horribly "designed", horribly implemented atrocity, it might notFeb 13 01:20
MinceRin the universe we live in, it unfortunately doesFeb 13 01:20
oiaohmDepends what features of systemd you are using.Feb 13 01:20
MinceRis there a feature that gives me back control of my own machine?Feb 13 01:20
oiaohmIf you hit any of it horible defects.Feb 13 01:20
MinceRit's a huge horrible defect by itselfFeb 13 01:20
oiaohmHave you read the docker/vm usage policy ideas.Feb 13 01:21
MinceRwhy would i?Feb 13 01:21
MinceRi don't use dockerFeb 13 01:21
MinceRnor do i see any reason toFeb 13 01:21
oiaohmCreate, deploy. destroy.Feb 13 01:21
MinceRespecially to restrict my services to 1 process just because docker is retardedFeb 13 01:22
oiaohmThat is docker container/vm life cycle.Feb 13 01:22
MinceRno thanks.Feb 13 01:22
oiaohmRunning a  Create deploy destroy cycle you don't hit most of systemd faults.Feb 13 01:22
MinceRi do not share their beliefs that they have a virtualization that has no bugs.Feb 13 01:22
MinceRyay.Feb 13 01:22
oiaohmso big guys with huge virtual machine usage have not suffered from systemd.Feb 13 01:23
MinceRi prefer to not hit most of systemd faults by not running systemdFeb 13 01:23
MinceRit's still less restrictiveFeb 13 01:23
oiaohmAnd they gained correct reporting when services crashed.Feb 13 01:23
MinceRthe nsa can get their zombies elsewhereFeb 13 01:23
oiaohmSo they are happy.Feb 13 01:23
MinceRmy services don't tend to crashFeb 13 01:24
oiaohmSo there is at least 1 camp happy with systemd.Feb 13 01:24
MinceRyeah, the nsaFeb 13 01:24
oiaohmOk make that 2Feb 13 01:24
MinceRah, yes, the gchq tooFeb 13 01:24
oiaohm3Feb 13 01:24
oiaohmstarting to see something yet.Feb 13 01:24
MinceRyeahFeb 13 01:25
oiaohmBig high end is happy.Feb 13 01:25
oiaohmSmall end highly unhappy.Feb 13 01:25
MinceRthere are plenty of evil organizations that want my systems to be full of holesFeb 13 01:25
oiaohmBig end pay support contract to redhat and distrobutions.Feb 13 01:25
MinceRunfortunately, _i_ don't want my systems to be full of holesFeb 13 01:25
MinceRso it will take a bit more forcing on their part to turn my systems into cancerd zombies.Feb 13 01:26
oiaohmSo what big end wants got ahead of what you want.Feb 13 01:26
MinceRyeah, i could tellFeb 13 01:26
MinceRfrom all the WONTFIXsFeb 13 01:26
MinceRand the "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."sFeb 13 01:26
MinceRand from the way they subverted debian to get their wayFeb 13 01:27
MinceRbut they can still go and fuck themselves.Feb 13 01:27
oiaohmDebian had been looking to replace sysvinit since 2002Feb 13 01:27
MinceRwith what?Feb 13 01:27
oiaohmThat was the problem.Feb 13 01:27
MinceRthat still is the problemFeb 13 01:27
MinceRthat obsession was their downfallFeb 13 01:28
oiaohmEvery time the debate came up nothing offered even a single major bug fix.Feb 13 01:28
oiaohmuntil systemdFeb 13 01:28
MinceRthat's why debian is not universal, not free and that's why its latest "stable" release is not stableFeb 13 01:28
oiaohmSo systemd won by fixing I think 4 things.Feb 13 01:28
oiaohmOk it broken 40 more.Feb 13 01:28
MinceRah, so sysvinit had to go because it was too goodFeb 13 01:28
MinceRgot it.Feb 13 01:28
oiaohmNo sysvinit had to go because it was broken.Feb 13 01:28
MinceRdebilian is the pessimized distroFeb 13 01:28
MinceRyeah, it had to be replaced by something that's a lot more broken because it was brokenFeb 13 01:29
oiaohmConditions sysvinit won under were writtne in 2003Feb 13 01:29
MinceRlogic, what's that?Feb 13 01:29
oiaohmNo one thought it would take so long to find a init system or that a init system with those features would be so bad.Feb 13 01:29
MinceRand that's also why debian gnu/kfreebsd and debian gnu/hurd had to dieFeb 13 01:29
MinceRsystemd is not an "init system"Feb 13 01:30
MinceRit's an operating system without a good service managerFeb 13 01:30
MinceR"init system"s don't take over logging, or dns caching, or web services, or clock synchronization, etc.Feb 13 01:30
oiaohmgnu/hurd was on the chopping block since 2008 due to lack of maintaince.  so you can drop that one.Feb 13 01:30
MinceRthey didFeb 13 01:31
oiaohmIt was lucky that gnu/hurd option lasted as long as it did.Feb 13 01:31
MinceRthough it may yet come backFeb 13 01:31
MinceRthe GWF will finally fuck up hurd's design so they can worship systemd all the betterFeb 13 01:31
oiaohmgnu/hurd from debian has been killed off 6 times.Feb 13 01:31
MinceRfinally gnu/hurd can have the huge single point of failure they always wanted!Feb 13 01:31
oiaohmkfreebsd existence in debian always had a percentage of controversy.    BSD rc system was included in kfreebsd yet sysvinit was being kept on being used on it.Feb 13 01:33
MinceRyeah, spare me of all the lame excuses, i've read them all.Feb 13 01:33
MinceRthey first decided that the cancerd cult will have their way no matter what, and then they decided "why" they would.Feb 13 01:34
MinceRlots of liars and no engineers.Feb 13 01:34
oiaohmMinceR: and there is something else bad here.   https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/Feb 13 01:35
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oiaohmRight due to glibc not being kfreebsd properly compatible it impossible to build debian kfreebsd without using debian Linux as well.Feb 13 01:36
oiaohmMinceR: and that is the case before systemd.Feb 13 01:36
oiaohmLike neither of those ports was in a particularly good state.Feb 13 01:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux for your Loved OnesFeb 13 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0eVTHbnhdm (freedompenguin.com)Feb 13 08:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oiloaFeb 13 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Linux for your Loved Ones - Freedom PenguinFeb 13 08:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston,Feb 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME, KDE, EnlightenmentFeb 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NNZXuukVkq (tlhp.cf)Feb 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilomFeb 13 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tlhp.cf | The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston, GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment – The Linux Homefront ProjectFeb 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Remembering Thomas Wood https://t.co/3tppDNHWjtFeb 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gnome.org) "a long time contributor to theFeb 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME Art project" just diedFeb 13 08:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnome.org | Remembering Thomas Wood – GNOMEFeb 13 08:56
*TweetTuxMachines @JohnitoMusic favourited 'Linux for your Loved Ones https://t.co/0eVTHbnhdm'Feb 13 08:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze SoonFeb 13 09:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/enLe1GInNO (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 09:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze SoonFeb 13 09:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives in All Supported UbuntuFeb 13 09:01
TweetTuxMachines                 OSes https://t.co/xNf8N1dg3fFeb 13 09:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 13 09:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives in All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 13 09:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Getting to Know Linux File PermissionsFeb 13 09:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KiUCoAqJAW (www.linux.com)Feb 13 09:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Getting to Know Linux File Permissions | Linux.comFeb 13 09:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Benchmarks Of The ODROID-C2 64-Bit ARMFeb 13 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Development Board https://t.co/7KmwbyTM21Feb 13 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 13 09:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Benchmarks Of The ODROID-C2 64-Bit ARM Development Board - PhoronixFeb 13 09:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 toFeb 13 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Showcase Its Ubuntu ConvergenceFeb 13 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/f1uBkq6qvl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 09:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 to Showcase Its Ubuntu ConvergenceFeb 13 09:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: More adventures with Manjaro-ARM forFeb 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines                 the Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/zJ3Tei6vCOFeb 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Feb 13 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On: More adventures with Manjaro-ARM for the Raspberry Pi 2 | ZDNetFeb 13 09:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A man with his Fingers in many millions of piesFeb 13 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vLbmMqWaB0 (www.linuxvoice.com)Feb 13 09:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/a-man-with-his-fingers-in-many-millions-of-pies/ )Feb 13 09:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenPHT 1.5.1 for Debian/sidFeb 13 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YXsd99mVBo (www.preining.info)Feb 13 09:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | OpenPHT 1.5.1 for Debian/sid |Feb 13 09:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla #Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3Feb 13 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Integration for Linux, Sort OfFeb 13 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Zyc4qR0NJa (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 09:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mozilla Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3 Integration for Linux, Sort OfFeb 13 09:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny Core Linux 7.0 Up to Release CandidateFeb 13 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase, Adds Linux Kernel 4.2.9Feb 13 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xBUzdHIsB4 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 09:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilruFeb 13 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tiny Core Linux 7.0 Up to Release Candidate Phase, Adds Linux Kernel 4.2.9Feb 13 09:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two WeeksFeb 13 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 to Patch the Incoming Calls IssueFeb 13 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LrgqLJRys7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 09:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two Weeks to Patch the Incoming Calls IssueFeb 13 09:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly IntegrateFeb 13 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 the Unity Launcher with NautilusFeb 13 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jPztlvwRpX (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 13 09:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilryFeb 13 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the Unity Launcher with NautilusFeb 13 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Might Drop Ubuntu DiscourseFeb 13 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OxXp74EMqu (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 09:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Might Drop Ubuntu DiscourseFeb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3 Integration...'Feb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two Weeks...'Feb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the...'Feb 13 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Transform Your Android Smartphone Into A LinuxFeb 13 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop PC Using MaruOS https://t.co/fgdAdElQAjFeb 13 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.geeky-gadgets.com)Feb 13 09:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oils1Feb 13 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Transform Your Android Smartphone Into A Linux Desktop PC Using MaruOS - Geeky GadgetsFeb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze Soon https://t.co/enLe1GInNO'Feb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives in All Supported Ubuntu OSes...'Feb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 to...'Feb 13 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze SoonFeb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla #Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3 Integration...'Feb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tiny Core Linux 7.0 Up to Release Candidate...'Feb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two Weeks...'Feb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the...'Feb 13 09:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Might Drop Ubuntu Discourse https://t.co/OxXp74EMqu'Feb 13 09:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Neon and Plasma RelationshipFeb 13 09:50
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/DFegwxguOYFeb 13 09:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.davidedmundson.co.uk)Feb 13 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.davidedmundson.co.uk | Neon and Plasma Relationship | David Edmundson's Web LogFeb 13 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Influence of Debian in Linux Open SourceFeb 13 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Community https://t.co/3Fo5M8EisoFeb 13 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com)Feb 13 10:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | The Influence of Debian in Linux Open Source CommunityFeb 13 10:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698517411885150209   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698518499979821056  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698519050033434624Feb 13 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Neon and #Plasma Relationship https://t.co/VijGvY2PeA #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 13 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Influence of Debian in Linux Open Source Community https://t.co/I8VWO9NJOf #debian #gnu #linux #murdockFeb 13 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Our Response To Yet Another Bogus Legal Threat From Australia: Go Learn Some Law https://t.co/xK2kNwNQ7B #techdirt gets abusedFeb 13 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Our Response To Yet Another Bogus Legal Threat From Australia: Go Learn Some Law | TechdirtFeb 13 10:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698519357119406080Feb 13 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #UK Court Tells Online Mapping Company It's Not Illegal For Google To Also Offer Online Maps https://t.co/CU7hj5ZIf0 #streetmap desperateFeb 13 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | UK Court Tells Online Mapping Company It's Not Illegal For Google To Also Offer Online Maps | TechdirtFeb 13 10:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Make your own Firefox OS TVFeb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bUx2UJe6cf (liliputing.com)Feb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RGZAj9JzqbFeb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.rethinkresearch.biz)Feb 13 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | Make your own Firefox OS TV - LiliputingFeb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilyuFeb 13 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rethinkresearch.biz | Mozilla refocuses Firefox OS on connected devices - RethinkFeb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 things every Linux beginner should knowFeb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/o588dco9aq (thenextweb.com)Feb 13 10:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | 4 things every Linux beginner should knowFeb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Moto 360 Generation 2 Smartwatch ReviewFeb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TEhCfClFwVFeb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org)Feb 13 10:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Moto 360 Generation 2 Smartwatch ReviewFeb 13 10:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Faking Open, Debian Influence, Da LinuxFeb 13 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QhPInRDKTS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 10:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Faking Open, Debian Influence, Da Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 13 10:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fysbis: The Linux Backdoor Used by RussianFeb 13 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Hackers https://t.co/aIAjp1QmzwFeb 13 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 10:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilyyFeb 13 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fysbis: The Linux Backdoor Used by Russian Hackers | Tux MachinesFeb 13 10:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Influence of Debian in Linux Open SourceFeb 13 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Community https://t.co/MMOPnpkZSqFeb 13 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 10:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilyzFeb 13 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Influence of Debian in Linux Open Source Community | Tux MachinesFeb 13 10:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ChristoHaunted/status/698528387049066496Feb 13 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChristoHaunted: @schestowitz thing is censorship will always fail in the long run, #google #twitter and #facebook will wake up and stop it or be replaceFeb 13 10:27
MinceRor the establishment will block replacementsFeb 13 10:32
MinceRs/block/ban/Feb 13 10:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ChristoHaunted/status/698529399667298304Feb 13 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChristoHaunted: @schestowitz RTBF already fail and even if they expand it people will always find away around it, like this https://t.co/AhXS2Ivp2HFeb 13 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> duckduckgo.com | DuckDuckGoFeb 13 10:35
schestowitzDDG is a scam, not privacy-securing at allFeb 13 10:35
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/microsoft-continues-to-use-software-patents-to-extortblackmail-even-more-companies-that-use-linux-forcingcoercing-them-into-preinstalling-microsoft-160210175652.html#talkback_area\Feb 13 10:39
schestowitz"Unless that MS crap is no uninstallable without rooting, I am OK."Feb 13 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtoday.com | Linux Today - Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/oim0d ]Feb 13 10:39
schestowitz"I really don't know why someone doesn't start a group, including the FSF and all the big companies that Microsoft are currently extorting, to stand up to Microsoft over these so-called patent breaches that only Microsoft claims are made by Linux, just to finally force Microsoft to put up or shut up."Feb 13 10:39
schestowitz"in America, they call those two bedfellows Freedom and Crony Capitalism. Reality is whatever Capital says it is."Feb 13 10:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/698534709698035712Feb 13 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz Privatising any health system is=2 opening bank 2 very rich.It would b 'gutted' exploited endlessly-no concern 4 ppl only $$Feb 13 10:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/698535281343856640Feb 13 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Corps Who Profit off of our Personal & Professional Information- Demand Transparency! https://t.co/rsi4mOXhjSFeb 13 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Corps Who Profit off of our Personal & Professional Information- Demand Transparency! https://t.co/rsi4mOXhjSFeb 13 10:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME: Maps shaping up for 3.20Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fFHqr3IAuZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME: Maps shaping up for 3.20 | Tux MachinesFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 things every Linux beginner should knowFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/O7364527Z5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim2mFeb 13 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 things every Linux beginner should know | Tux MachinesFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Poll: You Say, ‘Ship Ubuntu Tablets by theFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Boatload’ https://t.co/SCw90UKfltFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (fossforce.com)Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim2nFeb 13 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Poll: You Say, 'Ship Ubuntu Tablets by the Boatload' | FOSS ForceFeb 13 10:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MESSinAZ5/status/698539970093449216Feb 13 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MESSinAZ5: #Linux #gnu stuff is related to Android OS? Why is it ppl at Android cant answer how 2 enable usb otg mass storage 4 LG ls620 @schestowitzFeb 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian Makes It a Lot Easier for Users toFeb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Install the Tails Anonymous Live CDFeb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/qWiRUjvDO0 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim5qFeb 13 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian Makes It a Lot Easier for Users to Install the Tails Anonymous Live CDFeb 13 11:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Talos Principle Is Still Struggling On TheFeb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 RadeonSI Driver https://t.co/07YFTs8GjDFeb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 13 11:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Talos Principle Is Still Struggling On The RadeonSI Driver - PhoronixFeb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mesa 3D 11.1.2 Is Out with ImprovementsFeb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/dMWYe3fNGA (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tGyFkD7KOi (www.phoronix.com)Feb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9SuK8fl21j (www.phoronix.com)Feb 13 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mesa 3D 11.1.2 Is Out with Nouveau, Intel i965, and RadeonSI ImprovementsFeb 13 11:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim5sFeb 13 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mesa 11.1.2 Offers A Platter Of Bug Fixes - PhoronixFeb 13 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Latest Mesa Update Lands In Ubuntu 16.04, Enables OpenGL 4.1 With LLVM 3.8 - PhoronixFeb 13 11:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     XCOM 2 strategy game reviewed on LinuxFeb 13 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hVDEy8K7dl (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 13 11:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim5yFeb 13 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | XCOM 2 strategy game reviewed on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 11:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dying Light hotfix released, should fix majorFeb 13 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 texture issue on Linux, no co-op fixes yetFeb 13 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/agbeinbIX3 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 13 11:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim61Feb 13 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Dying Light hotfix released, should fix major texture issue on Linux, no co-op fixes yet | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 11:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/Xxpy9LqdlrFeb 13 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 11:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim64Feb 13 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux MachinesFeb 13 11:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mesa 11.1.2 https://t.co/2poFWJStsoFeb 13 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim74Feb 13 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa 11.1.2 | Tux MachinesFeb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Radeon vs. Nouveau Gallium3D Driver PerformanceFeb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 On Mesa 11.2-dev, Linux 4.5Feb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UADHIFMg9r (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim75Feb 13 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Radeon vs. Nouveau Gallium3D Driver Performance On Mesa 11.2-dev, Linux 4.5 | Tux MachinesFeb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xenonauts 2 being made, developer tells usFeb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 should be on Linux https://t.co/gEqPBsTBpMFeb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) this too:Feb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6PXWsEVEUG (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 13 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Xenonauts 2 being made, developer tells us should be on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oim76Feb 13 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Frozen Synapse 2 announced, dev confirmed to us it will be on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenStack Solution Provider Awnix JoinsFeb 13 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical's Cloud Partner ProgrammeFeb 13 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0EgMALKZ4h (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenStack Solution Provider Awnix Joins Canonical's Cloud Partner ProgrammeFeb 13 11:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/698547774036381701Feb 13 11:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz #ilovefs #encryption Will not help if you keep signing away your #privacy rights using SmartTech Apps https://t.co/czeKWl9SN7Feb 13 11:55
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7036802Feb 13 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android-x86 4.4-r5 Screencast and Screenshots http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-screencasts-and-screenshots-114/android-x86-4-4-r5-screencast-and-screenshots-4175571842/ but there are reasons to distrust the developers http://techrights.org/2014/03/27/chih-wei-huang-rants/Feb 13 12:33
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7036344Feb 13 13:16
schestowitz"Feb 13 13:16
schestowitzFor me Unity was the reason to turn my back to Ubuntu. After using Debian for a while, I tried Linux Mint Cinnamon and I am still happy with it. Everything works right out of the box.Feb 13 13:16
schestowitzI probably would switch back to Debian but because Debian is my greatest love. But because I gently pushed several members of my family into Mint, I keep using it myself so I can give maximum support.Feb 13 13:16
schestowitzI run several Debian servers so it doesn’t feel like cheating.Feb 13 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the Unity Launcher with Nautilus http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/watch-ubuntu-16-04-lts-will-properly-integrate-the-unity-launcher-with-nautilus-500362.shtmlFeb 13 13:16
schestowitz"Feb 13 13:16
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MinceRhttp://theweek.com/speedreads/538379/samsung-warns-customers-not-discuss-personal-information-front-smart-tvsFeb 13 14:10
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MinceR(old)Feb 13 14:10
schestowitzyeah, classicFeb 13 14:36
schestowitzI think LG may have tried something similarFeb 13 14:37
schestowitzbut can't recall for sure nowFeb 13 14:37
schestowitzmaybe it was something similar, not identicalFeb 13 14:37
schestowitzKoreans don't value privacyFeb 13 14:37
schestowitz!google spy korea meddle in electio Feb 13 14:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Former South Korea spy chief gets jail for election meddling | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-spy-idUSKBN0LD0SW20150209Feb 13 14:37
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TechrightsBot-tr[3] - South Korea jails former spy chief for meddling in 2012 election ... | http://www.dw.com/en/south-korea-jails-former-spy-chief-for-meddling-in-2012-election/a-18244458Feb 13 14:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JohnnySoftware/status/698590984305774592Feb 13 14:42
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RoeyhelloFeb 13 17:00
Roeyschestowitz: I just read your article at http://techrights.org/2016/02/10/extorting-acer-with-patents/Feb 13 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft | TechrightsFeb 13 17:00
Roeyschestowitz:  gosh this devious thing just keeps grinding on... MS helped Caldera's successor against IBM, Trak Auto, etc.; it just never ends, does itFeb 13 17:01
MinceRmaybe it will end once redhat destroys unix and gets bought by microsoftFeb 13 17:02
MinceRor once general purpose computers are banned to possess by the general populationFeb 13 17:02
MinceRor once the human species finally managed to exterminate itselfFeb 13 17:02
Roey<MinceR> or once general purpose computers are banned to possess by the general populationFeb 13 17:03
schestowitzhi RoeyFeb 13 17:03
Roeyahlan RoyFeb 13 17:03
Roeyschestowitz: do you speak HebrewFeb 13 17:04
Roey?Feb 13 17:04
RoeyI got the impression that you're Israeli tooFeb 13 17:04
schestowitzno, GermanFeb 13 17:04
Roeyahhhh okayFeb 13 17:04
Roeyyou speak German?Feb 13 17:04
schestowitzRegarding Caldera, that's old news...Feb 13 17:04
Roeywell yesFeb 13 17:04
schestowitzNovell and all, not the point of this articleFeb 13 17:04
Roeyright.Feb 13 17:04
schestowitza previous one covered the SCO stuffFeb 13 17:04
RoeyI appreciate that you covered this.  This is darned insidious and I hope that news of this gets more traction (I've known for years that MS has made vassals of many Android vendors)Feb 13 17:05
schestowitz!google sco ibm new microsoft techrightsFeb 13 17:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft's Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2016/02/09/microsoft-attacks-on-linux-2016/Feb 13 17:05
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft is Not Done With SCO Yet | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2013/06/18/sco-vs-ibm-resumes/Feb 13 17:05
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RoeyahFeb 13 17:05
schestowitzsee [1]Feb 13 17:06
RoeycheckingFeb 13 17:06
schestowitzthe Android thing is a travestyFeb 13 17:06
schestowitzmany news sites still paint this as Microsoft as some king of Android champions with 73 or 74 OEMs and OfficeFeb 13 17:06
schestowitzBut they conveniently ignore the context Feb 13 17:06
schestowitzThey're "good" boys and girls, they write what Microsoft tells themFeb 13 17:07
schestowitzand what OEMs under NDAs can't talk aboutFeb 13 17:07
Roeyoh wow, you had just covered that this week I seeFeb 13 17:07
schestowitzit did get to the top of reddit's linux subFeb 13 17:07
Roeyso what happened now with MS contacting your employer?!Feb 13 17:07
Roeyoh ok wonderfulFeb 13 17:07
schestowitzthat's something I only found out about recently, my employer told meFeb 13 17:08
Roeythe chutzpah.Feb 13 17:08
schestowitz2 months ago in Alton Towers, near StokeFeb 13 17:08
schestowitzwell, MicrosoftFeb 13 17:08
RoeyI also get the sense that this is getting scuttled in the media (news of these shady deals)Feb 13 17:08
schestowitzThey're so sure they're always right, like NetanyahuFeb 13 17:08
RoeyahFeb 13 17:08
Roeywell I mean I'm for Netanyahu in many respects.Feb 13 17:08
Roeythat's a separate issueFeb 13 17:08
schestowitzwell, the patent aspects need to be revisited by the mediaFeb 13 17:09
schestowitzbecause they totally miss the full storyFeb 13 17:09
Roeyto wht endFeb 13 17:09
schestowitzmary jo foley at least touched this aspectFeb 13 17:09
Roey*to what endFeb 13 17:09
RoeyI hadn't figured her for an outright shill like you mentioned in your articleFeb 13 17:09
RoeyI had thought that she's clueless or neutralFeb 13 17:09
schestowitzSee the article from her that's cited in [1] aboveFeb 13 17:09
Roeythank youFeb 13 17:09
schestowitzshe had covered, to her credit, similar issues beforeFeb 13 17:09
RoeyayeFeb 13 17:10
schestowitzLike that time MS sued Samsung with patentsFeb 13 17:10
schestowitzand then settled, with Samsung agreeing to carry MS malware on AndroidFeb 13 17:10
RoeyI get the impression that many journalists simply forgot that MS is leeching off of Android vendorsFeb 13 17:10
RoeyayeFeb 13 17:10
Roeyoh MS malware? I hadn't known thatFeb 13 17:10
schestowitzInstead of MS asking them for patent royalties or paying them for preloads it does a bundleFeb 13 17:10
schestowitzand the media just magically overlooks itFeb 13 17:10
Roeywhat kind of software?  MS software?  Or code modules that had nothing to do with user-end software?Feb 13 17:10
schestowitz!google google paid apple billion for searchFeb 13 17:10
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Google Paid Apple $1 Billion to Keep Search Bar on iPhone ... | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-22/google-paid-apple-1-billion-to-keep-search-bar-on-iphoneFeb 13 17:10
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google paid Apple $1 billion in 2014 to remain the default iOS ... | http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/22/10813558/google-apple-1-billion-default-ios-searchFeb 13 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Google paid Apple $1 billion to be the default search on iOS | http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/22/google-paid-apple-one-billion-dollars/Feb 13 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google paid Apple $1 billion in 2014 to keep it the default search ... | http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/21/google-paid-apple-1-billion-in-2014-to-keep-it-the-default-search-engine-on-ios-devices/Feb 13 17:11
Roey*end-userFeb 13 17:11
RoeythanksFeb 13 17:11
RoeyayeFeb 13 17:11
RoeyI have read thatFeb 13 17:11
schestowitzOutlook, Live (?) Drive (One Drive they call it now?), Office...Feb 13 17:11
Roeymaybne one of your artciles above actuallyFeb 13 17:11
schestowitzSkype too in some casesFeb 13 17:11
RoeyayeFeb 13 17:11
Roeymind if I lurk here?Feb 13 17:11
Roeyin this channel?Feb 13 17:11
schestowitzIt's coercion with patentsFeb 13 17:11
schestowitzthe site mostly focuses on patents right nowFeb 13 17:12
Roeyseems liek a good place to be since this is near and dear to my heartFeb 13 17:12
RoeyayeFeb 13 17:12
schestowitza lot of "Linux" sites overlook the Big IssuesFeb 13 17:12
MinceROne Platform, One Drive, One Fuhrer!Feb 13 17:12
schestowitzGroklaw did well, but it's history nowFeb 13 17:12
schestowitzMinceR: systemd again?Feb 13 17:12
RoeyMinceR:  come on ;) this is just businessFeb 13 17:12
RoeyMinceR:  there's no emotion in itFeb 13 17:12
schestowitzMinceR: we're talking about MS ;-)Feb 13 17:12
MinceRschestowitz: no, microsoftFeb 13 17:13
MinceRthey're the one who have One DriveFeb 13 17:13
MinceRand One Microsoft WayFeb 13 17:13
schestowitzyeah, I was banteringFeb 13 17:13
MinceRbut yeah, redcrap also only has One Way for everyoneFeb 13 17:14
MinceRsystemd or the highwayFeb 13 17:14
MinceRRoey: i take issue with "business" that's about taking my rights and freedom awayFeb 13 17:14
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz> @JesselynRadack  #BREAKING: #SCOTUS Justice Antonin #ScaliaFeb 13 17:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 found #dead at West TX ranchFeb 13 17:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 https://t.co/rhs4MH9y7D (www.sfgate.com)Feb 13 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com | Senior U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia found dead at West Texas ranch - SFGateFeb 13 17:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 #Vacancy4DemPrezApptFeb 13 17:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 #ShiftsCourt2LiberalsFeb 13 17:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinb8Feb 13 17:16
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schestowitzHe was a bad justiceFeb 13 17:16
schestowitzbut he opposed MS on some issues, pertaining to swpats for exampleFeb 13 17:16
schestowitzzoobab: ^^Feb 13 17:16
schestowitzThe fact that he lived in a Texas ranch explained his political slantFeb 13 17:18
XFaCEholy shit scalia is dead?Feb 13 17:18
schestowitznot regarding patent trolls, but Conservatism in all sorts of ways, I didn't know he was from thereFeb 13 17:18
RoeyyeahFeb 13 17:18
schestowitzXFaCE: expect it to be big news this coming weekFeb 13 17:19
schestowitzhe was probably the best known SCOTUS JusticeFeb 13 17:19
XFaCEindeedFeb 13 17:19
schestowitznot for all the right reasons, rather his contrarian (tr human rights) viewsFeb 13 17:19
schestowitzBut there's some good news (for MinceR) https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2016-February/035748.htmlFeb 13 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v229 [ http://ur1.ca/oince ]Feb 13 17:20
MinceRwhat, are they ending systemd?Feb 13 17:21
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonin_ScaliaFeb 13 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Antonin Scalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oinct ]Feb 13 17:22
MinceRor did ratcrap finally hire a software engineer to redo the whole "design" from scratch?Feb 13 17:22
schestowitz"Antonin Gregory Scalia (Listeni/skəˈliːə/; March 11, 1936 – February 13, 2016[1][2])"Feb 13 17:22
schestowitz"Nominated by Ronald Reagan"Feb 13 17:22
MinceRbig surpriseFeb 13 17:23
schestowitz"Scalia was reported to have died overnight in his sleep after a day spent hunting quails at Cibolo Creek Ranch, 33 miles south of Marfa, Texas, at the age of 79"Feb 13 17:23
schestowitzkarma, he killed animals and then diedFeb 13 17:23
Roeyfucking serves him rightFeb 13 17:23
schestowitzI won't miss himFeb 13 17:23
Roeyhunting quails? arghFeb 13 17:23
XFaCEschestowitz: Maybe Obama will appoint Bill Gates as the new judge - didn't he drop out of law school?Feb 13 17:24
MinceR:>Feb 13 17:24
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuailFeb 13 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Quail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 13 17:24
schestowitzMore cute then Mafioso AntonioFeb 13 17:24
MinceRcompetence is not a criterion in 2016Feb 13 17:24
schestowitz*tjhanFeb 13 17:24
MinceRif it ever wasFeb 13 17:25
schestowitzthey got more 'conservative' with ageFeb 13 17:25
schestowitzlike whiskeyFeb 13 17:25
MinceRi think that's called "dementia"Feb 13 17:25
schestowitzhe did a lot of damage to human rights causes in the supreme courtFeb 13 17:25
schestowitzWikipedia covers many of themFeb 13 17:25
schestowitzWe'll see if Sanders can nominate someone with more than 2 b rain cellsFeb 13 17:25
schestowitz(and a bible)Feb 13 17:26
schestowitzScalia was nominated 30 years ago by Reagan, whose main qualification if posturing and pretending to be a real person with real occupationsFeb 13 17:26
schestowitz /s/if/is/Feb 13 17:27
schestowitzAt first I thought he had been murdered or something, but no... he died without pain apparentlyFeb 13 17:27
RoeybackFeb 13 17:27
Roey(was on the phone)Feb 13 17:27
schestowitzhe probably thought he'd climb some ladder to Heaven by nowFeb 13 17:27
Roeyhe died without pain?  If only the quail he shot could have been granted that.Feb 13 17:27
schestowitzinstead he remains asleep in his bed on a Saturday morningFeb 13 17:28
Roey(disclosure: I'm vegan for animal rights)Feb 13 17:28
schestowitzI should be too, maybe in the future...Feb 13 17:28
RoeyahFeb 13 17:28
Roeybtw the reason why I was asking if you speka Hebrew was because schestowitz sounds like an Israeli name and I come from there originallyFeb 13 17:28
Roeyand also Roy is like my name, RoeyFeb 13 17:29
XFaCE"Antonin Gregory Scalia (Listeni/skəˈliːə/; March 11, 1936 – February 13, 2016[1][2]) was an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. As the longest-serving justice on the Court, Scalia was the Senior Associate Justice. Appointed to the Court by President Ronald Reagan in 1986, Scalia has been described as the intellectual anchor for the originalist and textualist position in the Court's conservative wing.[3] And then he dieFeb 13 17:29
XFaCEd."Feb 13 17:29
Roeywhich is one of the most popular names for israelis from my generation (born 1980)Feb 13 17:29
XFaCE"And then he dided"Feb 13 17:29
XFaCE*diedFeb 13 17:29
MinceR:)Feb 13 17:30
RoeyI mean I won't celebrate anyone's deathFeb 13 17:31
schestowitzso he won't have time to cook the quailsFeb 13 17:31
Roeydoesn't mean I won't miss himFeb 13 17:31
schestowitzmaybe they can put him outside and feel him to the crowsFeb 13 17:32
Roey*doesn't mean I'll miss himFeb 13 17:32
XFaCERoey: the RMS quote I seeFeb 13 17:32
RoeyXFaCE:  is it?Feb 13 17:32
schestowitzthat would be politically-incorrectFeb 13 17:32
XFaCE"I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone"Feb 13 17:32
RoeyXFaCE:  it's a Jewish value not to celebrate someone's death.Feb 13 17:32
MinceRthat quote stirred up a lot of outragism thoughFeb 13 17:32
schestowitzXFaCE: JobsFeb 13 17:32
RoeyI strive for lifeFeb 13 17:32
schestowitzRMS on JobsFeb 13 17:32
Roeythat's why I'm veganFeb 13 17:32
MinceRgood thing i'm not jewish, thenFeb 13 17:32
schestowitzI had said worse things than RMS didFeb 13 17:32
schestowitzI'm not celebrating anyone's deathFeb 13 17:33
schestowitzI pass judgmentFeb 13 17:33
schestowitzon their deedsFeb 13 17:33
Roeylook if things were my way these kinds of people would have long healthy happy lives--out of power.Feb 13 17:33
MinceRschestowitz: i don't think you've said things as bad as what rms saidFeb 13 17:34
schestowitzAnd if that was really a value of Judaism, then it applies only to victims from among themFeb 13 17:34
MinceR"systemd is free software because it's LGPL"Feb 13 17:34
schestowitzAs IDF sure likes to celebrate the killings of particular PalestiniansFeb 13 17:34
XFaCEMinceR: shots firedFeb 13 17:34
MinceR:>Feb 13 17:34
XFaCEthe Poettering Police are comin'Feb 13 17:34
schestowitzand even upload murder videos to youtubeFeb 13 17:34
Roeyschestowitz: how so?Feb 13 17:34
Roeyhow so?Feb 13 17:34
schestowitzin their official youtube channels, which violates ToS of Google AFAIKFeb 13 17:34
Roeythe IDF needs to show what hapepnedFeb 13 17:34
schestowitzIt's OK, Israel is exempted from these rules in GoogleFeb 13 17:34
Roeyotherwise it gets accused in the media for things it did not do.Feb 13 17:35
RoeyI'm totally on-board with that.Feb 13 17:35
schestowitzcomplete with annotation celebrating the deathFeb 13 17:35
schestowitzI could find articles about itFeb 13 17:35
schestowitzthey make it like a video gameFeb 13 17:35
schestowitzthe US does it too sometimesFeb 13 17:35
schestowitzbut the US is not generally JewishFeb 13 17:35
schestowitzand I don't think they claim to bemoan the deaths of every personFeb 13 17:35
RoeyIf one person "celebrated" the ending of a life, that's pretty bad.  But I don't see the IDF doing this, or the Israeli society as a whole for that matter.  Feb 13 17:36
schestowitzYou need to pay closer attention thenFeb 13 17:36
Roeyand it /pales/ in comparison to how Palestinian Arabs celebrate each and every one of their terrorists as "martyrs" for their cause.Feb 13 17:36
schestowitzor maybe it's not shown to the inside, owing to poatent censorshipFeb 13 17:36
schestowitz!google idf censors blogs facebook postsFeb 13 17:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - IDF demands popular Israeli bloggers submit posts to censor - RT.com | https://www.rt.com/news/331628-idf-bloggers-cenzorship-facebook/Feb 13 17:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - IDF censor requires bloggers to submit posts for review | Middle East ... | http://www.dw.com/en/idf-censor-requires-bloggers-to-submit-posts-for-review/a-19031041Feb 13 17:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Israel's Military Censor Takes on Dozens of Bloggers, Facebook ... | http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.701462Feb 13 17:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - IDF censor requires bloggers to submit posts for review: Israeli ... | https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/44ittl/idf_censor_requires_bloggers_to_submit_posts_for/Feb 13 17:36
MinceRthen perhaps that rule should be changed to reflect the practiceFeb 13 17:37
schestowitzBut anyway, that's off topicFeb 13 17:37
RoeyyeahFeb 13 17:37
RoeyI'mk fine with thatFeb 13 17:37
MinceRunless of course it's there so they can point at something when they suppress a video they don't likeFeb 13 17:37
schestowitzunless one says it's not OK to chastise Scalia right now because of "jewish values"Feb 13 17:37
schestowitzScalia was a major arseholeFeb 13 17:37
schestowitzupon his death it's important to set the consensus rightFeb 13 17:37
RoeybbiabFeb 13 17:37
schestowitznot to let eulogies rewrite his recordFeb 13 17:37
MinceRit's pretty sad how much people rely on a few companies to publish their stuff on the webFeb 13 17:38
schestowitzyeahFeb 13 17:38
schestowitzI give them the fingerFeb 13 17:38
MinceRexposing themselves to suppression that wayFeb 13 17:38
schestowitz!google google ends picasaFeb 13 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Picasa Desktop Users Prompted To Move To Google Photos Backup ... | http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/23/picasa-desktop-users-prompted-to-move-to-google-photos-backup-instead/Feb 13 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Picasa Web Albums - Google | https://picasaweb.google.com/Feb 13 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Picasa – Organize, edit, and share your photos - Google | https://picasa.google.com/Feb 13 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Picasa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PicasaFeb 13 17:38
schestowitz!google google shut down google drive clientFeb 13 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Uninstall Google Drive for your Mac/PC - Drive Help | https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375081%3Fhl%3DenFeb 13 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Common errors in Google Drive - Drive Help - the Google Help Center | https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2456903%3Fhl%3DenFeb 13 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Disconnect your computer from Drive - Drive Help - the Google Help ... | https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2922789%3Fhl%3DenFeb 13 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google Drive Help Forum - Google Product Forums | https://productforums.google.com/forum/%23!forum/driveFeb 13 17:38
schestowitzThat's something I saw earlier this evening (in reddit)Feb 13 17:38
schestowitzSo much for Google 'cloud'...Feb 13 17:38
schestowitzhttp://fossbytes.com/google-is-shutting-down-picasa-on-may-1-2016/ http://imgur.com/1IxK4hRFeb 13 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Google Is Shutting Down Picasa On May 1, 2016Feb 13 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | It appears Google has abandoned work on the Drive client - ImgurFeb 13 17:39
schestowitzThat's what I foundFeb 13 17:39
schestowitz!google google TRTBF europe expandedFeb 13 17:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - EU to Google: expand 'right to be forgotten' to Google.com ... | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/27/eu-to-google-expand-right-to-be-forgotten-to-googlecomFeb 13 17:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - NY Times Warns About Europe Expanding The 'Right To Be ... | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151221/17464733153/ny-times-warns-about-europe-expanding-right-to-be-forgotten.shtmlFeb 13 17:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Right to be forgotten - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgottenFeb 13 17:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google To Remove Right-To-Be-Forgotten Links Worldwide, For ... | http://searchengineland.com/google-to-remove-all-right-to-be-forgotten-links-from-european-index-242235Feb 13 17:39
schestowitzone point to censor allFeb 13 17:39
schestowitzas many people use google to find things, or do researchFeb 13 17:39
schestowitzhttps://plus.google.com/+MartinPitti/posts/UU7vabfTAJVFeb 13 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus.google.com | Hot on the heels of the upstream release I now uploaded systemd 229 to Debian… [ http://ur1.ca/oing6 ]Feb 13 17:42
schestowitz"Hot on the heels of the upstream release I now uploaded systemd 229 to Debian and Ubuntu. I'm regularly building and testing upstream master (https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ubuntu/systemd) and both the automatic CI and manual testing are all green now."Feb 13 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-launchpad.net | systemd : Martin Pitt [ http://ur1.ca/oing7 ]Feb 13 17:42
schestowitzMinceR: ^^Feb 13 17:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android More Leftovers https://t.co/YmpMLXCNDIFeb 13 17:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 17:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oing8Feb 13 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android More Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 13 17:42
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MinceRso what?Feb 13 17:42
MinceRthey've churned out new unstable releases for yearsFeb 13 17:42
schestowitzReminds me of Jo Shields and MonoFeb 13 17:43
schestowitzWhich he put in Ubuntu and DebianFeb 13 17:44
schestowitzhe now works for Xamarin BTWFeb 13 17:44
schestowitzSo basically he got close enough to his 'Gods'Feb 13 17:44
schestowitz22:51] <TweetSchestowitz> @ggreenwald      I personally recall with great fondness whenFeb 13 17:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz>                 Antonin Scalia twice vehemently argued for theFeb 13 17:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz>                 right of states to imprison homosexuals forFeb 13 17:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz>                 sex.Feb 13 17:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinhnFeb 13 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: I personally recall with great fondness when Antonin Scalia twice vehemently argued for the right of states to imprison homosexuals for sex.Feb 13 17:56
schestowitzWhat a poor ol' manFeb 13 17:56
schestowitzMaybe he'd fit well in UgandaFeb 13 17:56
schestowitzMaybe his coffin can be catapulted there for burialFeb 13 17:57
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/45kk6k/so_what_happened_to_that_turfwar_that_happened/Feb 13 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | So what happened to that turf-war that happened here few days ago because of a Github related post? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oinim ]Feb 13 17:58
schestowitzI think it's feasibleFeb 13 17:59
schestowitzto reuse a joke from Hitchens, they can give him an enema firstFeb 13 17:59
schestowitzthen they can fit him into a matchboxFeb 13 17:59
schestowitz[old] http://www.wired.com/2015/03/need-free-digital-hardware-designs/Feb 13 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/k3pwq ]Feb 13 18:00
MinceRloolFeb 13 18:02
MinceRs/oo/o/Feb 13 18:02
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schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/85931Feb 13 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android More Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 13 18:04
XFaCEschestowitz: what github thing?Feb 13 18:05
schestowitzoopsFeb 13 18:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hintjens/status/698583168677519360Feb 13 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hintjens: Building native extensions for node.js... and node-gyp builds dependencies in bizarrely random directories. Time to hack node-gyp...Feb 13 18:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698588573998649345  Feb 13 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @nilssonanders if you combine that with an hostile ap that creates SSIDs on the fly from client beacons :-)Feb 13 18:07
schestowitzThis is what I originally mean to paste https://twitter.com/nilssonanders/status/698497237018664960Feb 13 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nilssonanders: Evil plan: Open wifi hotspot which intercepts NTP traffic, and returns January 1st, 1970.Feb 13 18:07
schestowitz^^ appleFeb 13 18:07
schestowitzXFaCE: see threatFeb 13 18:07
schestowitz*threadFeb 13 18:07
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz> @ggreenwald      The ONLY reason we're talking about him isFeb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz>                 because of his political impact. So of courseFeb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz>                 it should be politicized.Feb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz>                 https://t.co/aIYaztRf9V (twitter.com)Feb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinm9Feb 13 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@prisonculture: We absolutely SHOULD BE politicizing Scalia's death. He was a POLITICAL APPOINTMENT.Feb 13 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: The ONLY reason we're talking about him is because of his political impact. So of course it should be politicized. https://t.co/aIYaztRf9VFeb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:18] [Notice] -TechrightsSocial to #boycottnovell-social- @prisonculture: We absolutely SHOULD BE politicizing Scalia's death. He was a POLITICAL APPOINTMENT.Feb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:18] * TweetSchestowitz @MMFlint deleted 'Before the body is cold, Republicans demand Obama...'Feb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz> @MMFlint         Before the body is cold, Republicans demandFeb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz>                 Obama not be President for the next 11 &1/4Feb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz>                 months & just let the Court remain paralyzed atFeb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz>                 4-4.Feb 13 18:23
schestowitz[23:20] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinmhFeb 13 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MMFlint: Before the body is cold, Republicans demand Obama not be President for the next 11 &1/4 months & just let the Court remain paralyzed at 4-4.Feb 13 18:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/698635370565492736Feb 13 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 But more fun with Linux .... 😇😎Feb 13 18:34
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cubexyzthese windows 10 comments are funny:Feb 13 19:46
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-yet-another-bug.txtFeb 13 19:47
cubexyznever seen the anti-microsoft vibe this strong beforeFeb 13 19:49
cubexyzI mean, I remember win95 and all the crap from back then, but no one was saying "install Linux" back thenFeb 13 19:50
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cubexyz"Faildows 10"Feb 13 19:52
MinceRVirus 10Feb 13 20:17
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/feraljokes/status/698615384853913600Feb 13 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@feraljokes: i'm starting to think that this is the last season of America and the writers are just going nutsFeb 13 20:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RebeccaBlackOS 2016-02-08 Review. Why? BecauseFeb 13 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 it’s Friday. https://t.co/ANFCUW1bWHFeb 13 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 20:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oio4kFeb 13 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RebeccaBlackOS 2016-02-08 Review. Why? Because it’s Friday. | Tux MachinesFeb 13 20:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top Android apps for your Raspberry Pi Feb 13 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eiIJNMfgkR (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 13 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 #raspi #linux #androidFeb 13 20:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oio4lFeb 13 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Top Android apps for your Raspberry Pi | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 13 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Performance problems https://t.co/gsjOP20p2gFeb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.sirena.org.uk) a #linux developer's woeFeb 13 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sirena.org.uk | Performance problems – TechnicalitiesFeb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oio5qFeb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Before we get to Maru OS, we will look at theFeb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 attempts at this ideal which have come first."Feb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/gdyllWczTg (www.chris-shaw.com)Feb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oio5rFeb 13 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.chris-shaw.com/b/Maru-os-takes-convergence-in-a-different-direction )Feb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     VIDEO: Maru OS auf dem Nexus 5 (deutsch)Feb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MvCHzH9F30 (www.youtube.com) #maruFeb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 #android #linuxFeb 13 20:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Maru OS auf dem Nexus 5 (deutsch) - YouTubeFeb 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unixstickers,  Linux goes to Washington, WhyFeb 13 22:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux? https://t.co/FvNpKwQ7nwFeb 13 22:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 22:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oioh4Feb 13 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unixstickers, Linux goes to Washington, Why Linux? | Tux MachinesFeb 13 22:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel Space: Linux, GraphicsFeb 13 22:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/d9WnTaFh8R (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 22:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oioh5Feb 13 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: Linux, Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 13 22:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/O8KWdjBMInFeb 13 22:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 22:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oioh6Feb 13 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 13 22:07
MinceRhttp://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/02/01/startling-similarities-between-the-iowa-caucus-and-groundhog-dayFeb 13 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | Startling Similarities Between The Iowa Caucus and Groundhog Day | Mad MagazineFeb 13 22:08
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cubexyzoiaohm, I need some clever ideas on how to add new firefox to old linuxFeb 13 23:04
cubexyzold isn't that old, but it's too old for whatever libraries it needs nowadaysFeb 13 23:05
MinceRchroot with dependencies of new firefox and new firefox itself?Feb 13 23:12
MinceRstatic build?Feb 13 23:12
cubexyzI can't find static built firefoxFeb 13 23:12
MinceRincluded shared object (possibly with LD_LIBRARY_PATH magic)?Feb 13 23:12
MinceRs/ct/cts/Feb 13 23:12
oiaohmcubexyz:  http://0install.net/comparison.html  all different ways of skinning that cat.Feb 13 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0install.net | 0install: ComparisonFeb 13 23:16
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oiaohmcubexyz: of course you have MinceR method that is just reverse http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Running_Old_Loki_Games  Yes sometimes pointing to a newer loader is required.Feb 13 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gentoo-wiki.info | Gentoo Wiki Archives - HOWTO_Running_Old_Loki_Games [ http://ur1.ca/nafh2 ]Feb 13 23:20
cubexyzwell, I am running the old loki games so that worksFeb 13 23:34
cubexyzthe problem is running new firefoxFeb 13 23:34
oiaohmcubexyz: same messy method in reverse instead of pointing to old libraries you need to run loki you point to new libraries that firefox needs.Feb 13 23:38
oiaohmcubexyz: normally for your class of problem would just set up a 0install archive because I normally would be dealing with more than 1 machine.Feb 13 23:38
cubexyzI ported em to Unix v5 but this seems harder :-/Feb 13 23:41
cubexyzok, first I have to compile ocaml whatever that isFeb 13 23:41
cubexyzobjective camlFeb 13 23:43
oiaohmcubexyz: so you system that old of Linux that 0install generic binaries don't work http://0install.net/install-linux.html#genericFeb 13 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0install.net | 0install: Linux [ http://ur1.ca/oiopt ]Feb 13 23:43
oiaohmAnd with 0install you can convert a debian package.Feb 13 23:43
MinceRor you could even have a newer gnu/linux distro in a chroot, with firefox installed :>Feb 13 23:43
cubexyzhmmmmFeb 13 23:44
cubexyzwhere are the generic binaries?Feb 13 23:44
cubexyzthere's an xml file but no binariesFeb 13 23:45
oiaohmcubexyz: http://0install.net/tools/0install.xml open the xml and scroll to bottom.Feb 13 23:47
XFaCEMinceR: "Oh wow, you mean all I have to do to enjoy Xbone games is install NSA10? What an amazing offer Bill."Feb 13 23:50
MinceR:>Feb 13 23:50
XFaCENSA 10, NSA/Windows, Vista10Feb 13 23:51
XFaCE:)Feb 13 23:51
MinceRor you could buy an xbone... and be x-bonedFeb 13 23:51
MinceRWorm10, Virus10Feb 13 23:51
cubexyzoiaohm, I think I'm screwed hereFeb 13 23:52
cubexyzI can't run those binaries because GLIBC_2.11 not foundFeb 13 23:52
XFaCEthings look glib(c) for you cubexyz Feb 13 23:52
oiaohmOk too old for 0installFeb 13 23:52
cubexyzsame problem with firefox... glibc is too oldFeb 13 23:53
oiaohmcubexyz: chroot time.Feb 13 23:53
cubexyzwell, at least ocaml is compiling :-PFeb 13 23:53
cubexyzit could be worse e.g. have to use win10 at workFeb 13 23:54
oiaohmReality if 0install will not install dns resolve and other things in glibc will not be secure.Feb 13 23:54
oiaohmAt that point Chroot or massive mucking round.Feb 13 23:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LiVES 2.6 (Video Editor) Has Been ReleasedFeb 07 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fzmvw3vnif (linuxg.net)Feb 07 00:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | LiVES 2.6 (Video Editor) Has Been Released | LinuxG.netFeb 07 00:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Q4OS 1.4.7, Orion https://t.co/zieF4F0EL6Feb 07 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (q4os.org)Feb 07 00:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware Live Edition – on its way to 1.0?Feb 07 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VbwA9xT0sG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 00:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware Live Edition – on its way to 1.0? | Tux MachinesFeb 07 00:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Q4OS 1.4.7, Orion https://t.co/kKE7x3GqK4Feb 07 00:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 1.4.7, Orion | Tux MachinesFeb 07 00:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat News https://t.co/GKN1JKZwa4Feb 07 00:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux MachinesFeb 07 00:43
schestowitzSpanish translations have made it into sites that show up in Google News, e.g.Feb 07 00:43
schestowitzhttp://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=208009Feb 07 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rebelion.org | Rebelion. Masivas protestas en la Oficina Europea de Patentes por despidos de personal crtico y representantes gremiales [ http://ur1.ca/ohmfj ]Feb 07 00:43
schestowitzAlso some blogsFeb 07 00:43
schestowitzhttp://observadorpatentesur.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/masivas-protestas-en-la-oficina-europea.htmlFeb 07 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-observadorpatentesur.blogspot.co.uk | Observatorio Sudamericano de Patentes : Masivas protestas en la Oficina Europea de Patentes por despidos de personal crítico y representantes gremiales [ http://ur1.ca/ohmfk ]Feb 07 00:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Chris767Roberts/status/696128302151561217Feb 07 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Chris767Roberts: @schestowitz Eyes all yesterday icicles hang from Jack's snow dusted face and that is exactly what happens when Twitter comes at me.Feb 07 00:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/696136130136117248Feb 07 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Po'folks here get sooo thirsty they go lickin' stamps...?Feb 07 01:02
MinceRhow is that supposed to work?Feb 07 01:03
schestowitzeating one's own salivaFeb 07 01:08
schestowitzhealthier than flint river waterFeb 07 01:08
MinceRthat takes water they've already consumedFeb 07 01:10
MinceRand wastes some of it as it will stay on the stampFeb 07 01:10
cubexyzyou're not supposed to analyze it MinceR :)Feb 07 01:10
cubexyzit's just an illogical expressionFeb 07 01:10
MinceR:)Feb 07 01:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7017804Feb 07 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Scooter Computer https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-scooter-computer/ guy from #microsoft now prefers #gnu #linux on the face of itFeb 07 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-scooter-computer/ )Feb 07 01:13
schestowitz"Likes GNU/Linux in an Intel cage for “security” and only for a utility box to support Windows things. He’s afraid of “Heartbleed” but seems just fine with Intel’s ME and UEFI. He thinks $350 is a cheap computer, when the thing is a “real” Intel. That’s probably the only thing Intel can sell people right now, but who wants to deal with all the pain and insecurity of UEFI and other Intel lockdown?"Feb 07 01:13
schestowitzMinceR: yes, a jokeFeb 07 01:13
MinceR"It's not a bird, it's not a plane, it must be Dave who's on the train"Feb 07 01:17
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schestowitz kded5 consolidates several small services in one process. These are mostly D-Bus services provided by KDED modules, but it also manages sycoca (a binaryFeb 07 01:21
schestowitz       cache of servicetypes, mimetypes and services used by KService) and KConfig update scripts as needed.Feb 07 01:21
schestowitzwhat a mess it isFeb 07 01:21
schestowitzwhen entering swap in particularFeb 07 01:21
schestowitzany way to restart it properly?Feb 07 01:21
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cubexyzI've decided to keep the old vector linuxFeb 07 01:36
cubexyzbut I'm upgrading another box I wasn't using to vector linux 7.1Feb 07 01:36
cubexyztoo much stuff on the (old) vector boxFeb 07 01:36
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cubexyzI've localized most functionality... one computer is the server, another is the IRC box, another is a development box and yet another is for web browsingFeb 07 01:40
cubexyzone nice thing about this approach... I can dive into different eras of linux and bsdFeb 07 01:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More Maru OS https://t.co/Ebo4bzuww8Feb 07 01:56
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohmpyFeb 07 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Maru OS | Tux MachinesFeb 07 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat News https://t.co/GKN1JKZwa4Feb 07 01:57
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 01:57
TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        Feb 07 01:57
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohmpzFeb 07 01:57
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DaemonFCMinceR: https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12360121_540142766143420_3124045675863660772_n.jpg?oh=a12a5cd5389e232a16578115d2bcc33d&oe=576F34A0Feb 07 02:47
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Did you cover Apple error 53 yet?Feb 07 02:55
DaemonFCIntentionally bricking iPhones if you had yours serviced by someone other than them.Feb 07 02:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/696193507094966272Feb 07 05:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: cc:@schestowitz https://t.co/8Ym0tjMdrNFeb 07 05:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drvandanashiva: #Bharat #Biotech #Gates #funded #Indian Co has #ZIKAvirus #vaccine wks after outbreak https://t.co/54jimxqsuY https://t.co/EFa3u2wLhjFeb 07 05:39
msb_!google iphone error-53Feb 07 05:41
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Apple says the iPhone-breaking Error 53 is a security measure | http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/05/apple-iphone-error-53/Feb 07 05:41
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 'Error 53' fury mounts as Apple software update threatens to kill your ... | http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/05/error-53-apple-iphone-software-update-handset-worthless-third-party-repairFeb 07 05:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Apple says iPhone 'Error 53' is to protect customers' security ... | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/06/apple-says-iphone-error-53-is-to-protect-customers-securityFeb 07 05:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - What is Error 53 and why did it kill my iPhone? - The Daily Dot | http://www.dailydot.com/technology/what-is-error-53-iphone/Feb 07 05:41
msb_http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/06/apple-says-iphone-error-53-is-to-protect-customers-securityFeb 07 05:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Apple says iPhone 'Error 53' is to protect customers' security | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/ohnh7 ]Feb 07 05:41
msb_"By concealing the feature prior to sales, and only even revealing it after being repeatedly pressured over it, Apple turned what could have been a feature into a landmine.”Feb 07 05:42
msb_Amazingly evilFeb 07 05:44
msb_They're going to have to fix all those dead phones for free, and send out a software update to the live ones to prevent the attack from triggering.  Otherwise nobody will ever buy one of their phones again.Feb 07 05:47
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msb_This must be why Max Keiser referred in his most recent show to "a rotten apple".  But he didn't get around to discussing it.Feb 07 05:48
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msb_" thousands of users whose phones have been repaired ...   As third-party hardware has been installed on their devices, Apple deems its terms and conditions to have been broken and forced many owners to contribute towards the cost of a new phone."Feb 07 05:59
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msb_European women no longer need fear being singled out for sexual attack by islamic immigrants.  https://www.rt.com/news/331594-iraqi-refugee-raped-boy/Feb 07 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | Iraqi refugee raped 10yo boy in Austria, says it was ‘sexual emergency’ — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/ohnka ]Feb 07 06:22
msb_https://www.rt.com/news/328753-norway-toddler-raped-refugee/Feb 07 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | 3yo boy allegedly ‘gang raped’ at Norwegian refugee center — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/ohnkd ]Feb 07 06:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware Live Edition – on its way to 1.0?Feb 07 06:59
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/VbwA9xT0sG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 06:59
TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        Feb 07 06:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohnmuFeb 07 06:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware Live Edition – on its way to 1.0? | Tux MachinesFeb 07 06:59
schestowitz" Susan Rice said the launch represented 'serious threats to our interests"Feb 07 07:35
schestowitz" threats to our interests"Feb 07 07:35
schestowitznot safetyFeb 07 07:35
schestowitzhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435560/North-Korea-launches-long-range-rocket-Okinawa-Japan-vows-action-against-Kim-Jong-s-rogue-state.htmlFeb 07 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | North Korea launches long-range rocket over Japan seen as covert missile test | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/ohnpj ]Feb 07 07:35
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schestowitz"Feb 07 07:41
schestowitzNorth Korea previously tested nuclear explosive devices in 2006, 2009 and 2013, and claimed it successfully delivered a satellite into orbit in December 2012, the last time it launched a long-range rocket. Feb 07 07:41
schestowitzThe launch will amplify calls by the U.S. and South Korea for more stringent trade and financial sanctions against North Korea. Feb 07 07:41
schestowitzHowever, critics argue that economic sanctions have little impact on Pyongyang because it does very little trade with the outside world. Feb 07 07:41
schestowitzMillions of people live in poverty in North Korea and it has been argued that further sanctions only make this situation worse, Feb 07 07:41
schestowitzChina, North Korea's only major ally, is unlikely to support stronger punishment against Pyongyang over fears of provoking a regime collapse, and potentially a stream of refugees across the border, analysts say. Feb 07 07:41
schestowitzChina is also responsible for about 70 percent of the North's trade volume, according to South Korean estimates.Feb 07 07:42
schestowitz"Feb 07 07:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/696193507094966272Feb 07 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: cc:@schestowitz https://t.co/8Ym0tjMdrNFeb 07 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drvandanashiva: #Bharat #Biotech #Gates #funded #Indian Co has #ZIKAvirus #vaccine wks after outbreak https://t.co/54jimxqsuY https://t.co/EFa3u2wLhjFeb 07 07:42
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msb_The US murdered 30% of the North Korean population, many by burning to death with napalm, during the Korean War, which the US provoked.  Further torture of these people by the US does not seem to be a way to get a good result.Feb 07 08:25
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msb_History is important.  Even if we don't remember, the North Koreans -- human beings just like us -- do remember.  Imagine if you and everyone you know had a parent or grandparent who was tortured to death in the most painful possible way.  _They_ remember!Feb 07 08:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/696252831569993728Feb 07 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: volunteers and crowdsourcing for "harnessing human intelligence" new definition of "useful idiots"? cc/@schestowitz https://t.co/sycsJJ1PEsFeb 07 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: volunteers and crowdsourcing for "harnessing human intelligence" new definition of "useful idiots"? cc/@schestowitz https://t.co/sycsJJ1PEsFeb 07 08:50
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MinceRhttps://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12360121_540142766143420_3124045675863660772_n.jpg?oh=a12a5cd5389e232a16578115d2bcc33d&oe=576F34A0Feb 07 09:27
MinceRoh, it was from here, nvm :)Feb 07 09:27
MinceRas for crApple, the one person i've read about who had their crap bricked was allegedly outraged but immediately rewarded crApple by buying another hypePhoneFeb 07 09:28
MinceRpeople are dangerously stupid.Feb 07 09:28
MinceRand now msb_ apologizes for north koreaFeb 07 09:28
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msb_I told the truth about North Korea.  South Korea was controlled by Syngman Rhee, a brutal and corrupt dictator who imprisoned, tortured and murdered those who opposed him, which included many students.  Of course the US supported him.Feb 07 10:36
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MinceRnext: msb_ voices his support for hitler and explains how everything bad he did was actually the usa's faultFeb 07 10:42
msb_As usual, the US slaughtered the North Koreans because they wanted socialism, which threatened the profits of wealthy capitalists, which they obtained at the expense of workers' wages.Feb 07 10:43
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MinceRso juche is "socialism" too. good to know.Feb 07 10:44
msb_As usual MinceR lies about me.  Of course I have never supported or apologized for Hitler.  But MinceR lies and lies.Feb 07 10:44
MinceRas usual, msb_ fails at reading comprehensionFeb 07 10:44
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msb_MinceR's lies are easy to comprehend.  But they are lies.Feb 07 10:47
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msb_The Guardian article I cited says that " thousands of iPhone 6 users have had their devices, which cost hundreds of pounds, left useless after encountering the error message."Feb 07 11:02
MinceRif humans' evolutionary advantage is supposed to be their mind, where does all this lead?Feb 07 11:03
msb_Hopefully it leads to a huge class-action lawsuit that demands repairs and punitive damages from Apple.Feb 07 11:05
MinceRseems more likely it leads to extinctionFeb 07 11:07
msb_The ultra-wealthy rulers of the US (through its corrupt electoral system) created the Mujahideen, which became Al-Qaeda and ISIL, which is murdering its way through the Middle East.  The US destr0yed the nations of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria in order to allow ISIL to do so, and has given ISIL lots of weapons (as have Saudi Arabia and Turkey).  The US set up a Nazi government in Ukraine in order to harass Russia.  Feb 07 11:13
msb_All this may lead to a nuclear war and the extinction of humanity.  But hopefully factual information will circulate around the Internet and the US will be globally censured for its actions, and will pull back without murdering the World.Feb 07 11:15
msb_The massive approval of Bernie Sanders in the US and Jeremy Corbyn in the UK gives reason to hope that humanity will survive this time of severe tension, and will overcome the hijacking of the Millennium by the US with the 9/11 false-flag attack.  We live in interesting times!Feb 07 11:22
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msb_Humans do have powerful minds, but we also have a buried instinct for psychopathy (control or kill everyone else and you will be safe), and we are easily programmed (what you tell me three times is true).  Full-blown psychopaths have organized and control most of the Western world.  But hopefully the trend is changing, with the Net, Corbyn, and Sanders.Feb 07 11:32
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msb_Trump in favor of severe torture: I would bring back waterboarding, and I'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding."  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u486WX1qHeQ  at 1:50Feb 07 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Ted Cruz, Donald Trump Advocate Bringing Back Waterboarding - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ohoad ]Feb 07 12:31
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msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aODtnLeSDYgFeb 07 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Trump Doesn't Care If Torture Doesn't Work: "They Deserve It Anyway" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ohoby ]Feb 07 12:54
msb_4:50Feb 07 12:54
XRevan86And if innocent? Then it's a good lesson for them anyway?Feb 07 12:57
msb_If you want to see an example of a psychopath, Trump is it.Feb 07 12:58
msb_The worst presidential election would be between Trump (torture the suspects) and Hillary Clinton ("We came, we saw, [Kaddafi]" died)Feb 07 13:01
msb_Both florid psychopaths.Feb 07 13:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Interview Questions - Riccardo IaconelliFeb 07 19:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Kc5AW6a0c4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 19:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohplkFeb 07 19:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five reasons I roll with Arch Linux, and whyFeb 07 19:20
TweetTuxMachines                 you should too https://t.co/UBpcXNJ63SFeb 07 19:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 19:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpllFeb 07 19:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today and Yesterday in TechrightsFeb 07 19:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/75ys2Pp8gE (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 19:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohppbFeb 07 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 07 19:43
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/75ys2Pp8gE'Feb 07 19:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux gaming rising: 35 great games for SteamFeb 07 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Machines and Linux https://t.co/WsZRRprGaCFeb 07 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.com)Feb 07 20:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Android Studio 2.0 Beta Launches WithFeb 07 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Multi-Touch Support, Improved Indexing And MoreFeb 07 20:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I'm slowly planning the redesign of theFeb 07 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 cluster which powers the Debian AdministrationFeb 07 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 website." https://t.co/gaTfge5z41Feb 07 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.steve.org.uk)Feb 07 20:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.org.uk | Redesigning my clustered websiteFeb 07 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Hangouts now offers peer-to-peer onFeb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Android https://t.co/7bNufGZDUJFeb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.slashgear.com) but #nsa #prism behind yourFeb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 shoulderFeb 07 20:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Google Hangouts now offers peer-to-peer on Android - SlashGearFeb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vulnerability in Font Processing LibraryFeb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Affects Linux, OpenOffice, FirefoxFeb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/S5F2vE2lLq (news.softpedia.com)Feb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpsfFeb 07 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vulnerability in Font Processing Library Affects Linux, OpenOffice, FirefoxFeb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ‘White hat’ then, Red Hat nowFeb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EB1FPc4jYX (www.manilatimes.net)Feb 07 20:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpsgFeb 07 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.manilatimes.net | ‘White hat’ then, Red Hat now | The Manila Times OnlineFeb 07 20:05
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696424021303435269Feb 07 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz As has been covered in the fora previously, we do not explicitly block tor. And, if you're logged in it's quite the opposite.Feb 07 20:11
schestowitzThey block tor, basically..Feb 07 20:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696425915170103300Feb 07 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz There are a few threads discussing the topic if interested. If you're logged in we make an explicit effort to NOT block tor.Feb 07 20:14
schestowitzHow can one log in whilst banned from the site? And within a login, is anonymity possible really? There's cookie tracking at Five Eyes.Feb 07 20:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696428079581949952   https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696428253138046978Feb 07 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz How did a member being banned enter into the equation? We only ban for very egregious reasons.Feb 07 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz And as I mentioned, even if you are not logged in we do not explicitly disallow tor in any way.Feb 07 20:24
schestowitzIt sounds like Tor is blocked by default (speaking for the person from diaspora, sort of)Feb 07 20:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/696429731986698240Feb 07 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oshwm666: @linuxquestions @schestowitz Do you block IP Addresses based on a subscription to a blacklist service?Feb 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 5 Icon Packs for Android!Feb 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/griXs4gVveFeb 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.xda-developers.com)Feb 07 20:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Top 5 Icon Packs for Android!Feb 07 20:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2 https://t.co/cpAsTOu36VFeb 07 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (support.zenwalk.org)Feb 07 20:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpwaFeb 07 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.zenwalk.org | Zenwalk Support • View topic - Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2Feb 07 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today and Yesterday in TechrightsFeb 07 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/92KuolqMdV (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 20:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 07 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LAVA and Debian Administration SiteFeb 07 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8p6EiWNtS4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 20:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LAVA and Debian Administration Site | Tux MachinesFeb 07 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/xarpb0wDEYFeb 07 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 20:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpwvFeb 07 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 07 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Security Leftovers https://t.co/pBKbKPlljcFeb 07 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 20:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 07 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2 https://t.co/xxPkUfAjmFFeb 07 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 20:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpwxFeb 07 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now Zenwalk 8.0 BETA 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 07 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Interview Questions - Riccardo IaconelliFeb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/D7DQYjIEYa (dot.kde.org)Feb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpxqFeb 07 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Interview Questions - Riccardo Iaconelli | KDE.newsFeb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five reasons I roll with Arch Linux, and whyFeb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 you should too https://t.co/RhugcKRRWDFeb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpxrFeb 07 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | Five reasons I roll with Arch Linux, and why you should too | Linux VedaFeb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora 23 Is an Exquisite Fedora 23 RemixFeb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BD5smVmCvG (news.softpedia.com)Feb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohpxsFeb 07 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Korora 23 Is an Exquisite Fedora 23 RemixFeb 07 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch Users Report Serious Bug ThatFeb 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Causes Dropped Calls After OTA UpdateFeb 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2USBtjkHwu (news.softpedia.com)Feb 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohq01Feb 07 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Users Report Serious Bug That Causes Dropped Calls After OTA UpdateFeb 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today and Yesterday in TechrightsFeb 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/92KuolqMdV (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 07 20:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohq02Feb 07 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 07 20:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696435896858488833   https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696436119961899008  https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696436726038802432Feb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @Dianne_Khan this is why Gates and that other billionaire shouldn't have a single bloody thing to do with edu https://t.co/S65X9hPiAXFeb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Yet another study calling the #GatesFoundation a fraud and harmful to agriculture" https://t.co/WUO7opRoWW via https://t.co/wZZp5jTSUkFeb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @Dianne_Khan @schestowitz much less be allowed to start a charter school here in NZFeb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @Dianne_Khan here's another https://t.co/TAYyRbb7FBFeb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Fighting “corporate control of education”: A millennial #education wonk goes to war against #neoliberal reform https://t.co/ZPGrYuwKWCFeb 07 20:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/696151573488132096Feb 07 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: Software patents in Europe: Information modelling is in itself not patent-eligible https://t.co/3wiyFM61Ic #swpatsFeb 07 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.europeansoftwarepatents.com | Software patents in Europe: Information modelling is in itself not patent-eligible « European software patentsFeb 07 20:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/696437858148737024  https://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/696438277889531904Feb 07 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oshwm666: @linuxquestions @schestowitz how weird then that the first impression I get of your site is when I follow a link from someone else that...Feb 07 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oshwm666: @linuxquestions @schestowitz ...lands me on the page that notifies me that I am blocked. I guess the solution is just to elsewhere instead.Feb 07 21:02
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schestowitzhttp://dancerscode.com/blog/why-the-open-code-of-conduct-isnt-for-me/Feb 07 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dancerscode.com | Why the Open Code of Conduct Isn’t for Me | Dancer's Code [ http://ur1.ca/ohq39 ]Feb 07 21:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Samoan_Attorney/status/696439728476803072Feb 07 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Samoan_Attorney: @retroDoomer @schestowitz @Dianne_Khan Pretty anemic critique TBH.Feb 07 21:13
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueFeb 07 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1e8bh ]Feb 07 21:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Best Graphics Card Brands For NVIDIA/AMDFeb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 GPUs As A Linux Consumer?Feb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1Retak5pbR (www.phoronix.com)Feb 07 21:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Best Graphics Card Brands For NVIDIA/AMD GPUs As A Linux Consumer? - PhoronixFeb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rhythmbox 3.3 (Open-Source Music ManagementFeb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 App) Brings Changes https://t.co/qDscihxDEUFeb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxg.net)Feb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohq3nFeb 07 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Rhythmbox 3.3 (Open-Source Music Management App) Brings Changes | LinuxG.netFeb 07 21:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Korora 23 Is an Exquisite Fedora 23 Remix...'Feb 07 21:21
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch Users Report Serious Bug That Causes...'Feb 07 21:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696443791822041088Feb 07 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: Catalogue of Bill Gates' dirty deeds... https://t.co/xOqO2p0uy2Feb 07 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Samoan_Attorney @retroDoomer @Dianne_Khan https://t.co/VlB48Exg46Feb 07 21:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7017557Feb 07 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #MaruOS Turns Your #Android Phone Into A #Linux Desktop Computer http://fossbytes.com/maruos-turns-your-android-phone-into-a-linux-desktop-computer/Feb 07 21:27
schestowitz"won’t that turn a slow PC into a fast Android Smartphone and then back into a slow PC? :D"Feb 07 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fossbytes.com | How MaruOS Turns Your Android Phone Into A Linux Desktop Computer [ http://ur1.ca/ohm1c ]Feb 07 21:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7017359Feb 07 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ZorinOS 11 Screencast and Screenshots http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-screencasts-and-screenshots-114/zorin-os-11-screencast-and-screenshots-4175571420/ #gnu #linuxFeb 07 21:28
schestowitz"So, get an account, let us track you and you’re allowed in is the message. As I said, fuck 'em :D"Feb 07 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxquestions.org | Zorin OS 11 Screencast and Screenshots [ http://ur1.ca/ohm1t ]Feb 07 21:28
schestowitz^^^ Linux QuestionsFeb 07 21:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Samoan_Attorney/status/696445414321459200Feb 07 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Samoan_Attorney: @schestowitz @retroDoomer @Dianne_Khan Much more sanguine, thanks. Complicated man, with a complicated legacy.Feb 07 21:30
schestowitz(gates)Feb 07 21:30
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cubexyzwow, Ellison is almost Gates level with $54 billionFeb 07 21:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696447751127748612   https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696448124802433024 https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696448508115734528  https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696448796100849664Feb 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz If not logged in, a specific exit node may be blocked for a short amount if time if it has been used to abuse LQ.Feb 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz While we are huge proponents of privacy, ensuring the site is available and spam free for all is our top priority.Feb 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz We have many members and mods who use tor while logged in and while not logged in...Feb 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz ... and we will continue to allow tor in all cases where we can in the future.Feb 07 21:43
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schestowitzhttp://original.antiwar.com/updates/2016/02/06/suicide-bomber-strikes-near-us-base-125-killed-across-iraq/Feb 07 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-original.antiwar.com | Suicide Bomber Strikes near US Base; 125 Killed Across Iraq - Antiwar.com Original by -- Antiwar.com [ http://ur1.ca/ohq9y ]Feb 07 21:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rhythmbox 3.3 (Open-Source Music ManagementFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    App) Brings Changes https://t.co/qDscihxDEUFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    (linuxg.net)Feb 07 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on NVIDIA https://t.co/yOWS1SgaMlFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 21:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on NVIDIA | Tux MachinesFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/fkp3EQ0qFPFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohqa5Feb 07 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/L0dRsxgjhiFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohqa6Feb 07 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 07 21:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/Awt5XR8MwPFeb 07 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 21:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohqa7Feb 07 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux MachinesFeb 07 21:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696464913510825984Feb 07 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz Just interested in what they are granting? Are they of the same low quality as US Software Patents? The EU seems messed up tooFeb 07 22:49
schestowitzPatent scope are an issue, notably patents on seeds, pigs, software and so on.Feb 07 22:50
schestowitzLeft column "Scope" http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPOFeb 07 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - TechrightsFeb 07 22:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696466610782130176Feb 07 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz Why isn't this being stopped?Feb 07 22:54
schestowitzThe public is not doing enough. Did you contact your delegates? http://techrights.org/2015/12/10/ac-national-delegations-contacts/ how about resuming your UPC site?Feb 07 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Contacting National Delegations to Complain About the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ohqli ]Feb 07 22:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696467949230624768Feb 07 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz UPC site?Feb 07 23:00
schestowitzOh, that's Dinet...Feb 07 23:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696469077452320768Feb 07 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz This seems like a bad situation, hope this is stoppedFeb 07 23:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     C.H.I.P. and Raspberry Pi 2Feb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yNx0qS1luv (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohqvnFeb 07 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | C.H.I.P. and Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Hold the front pages: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS won’tFeb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 ship with the latest Nautilus 3.18 asFeb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 originally intended." https://t.co/qKRj4jqPYdFeb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Feb 07 23:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Ship An Older Version Of Nautilus - OMG! Ubuntu!Feb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Q4OS Linux Distro Adds a Trinity Repository,Feb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Now Ready for ARM DevicesFeb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/I7wSlUCxIn (news.softpedia.com)Feb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohqvpFeb 07 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Q4OS Linux Distro Adds a Trinity Repository, Now Ready for ARM DevicesFeb 07 23:52
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DaemonFChttps://imgur.com/gallery/NpgsR19/Feb 08 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | PSA: Microsoft Rolls Out Automatic Windows 10 Upgrade THIS WEEK! - ImgurFeb 08 00:10
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Q4OS Linux Distro Adds a Trinity Repository, Now...'Feb 08 00:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/696495903448834049Feb 08 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Have you seen the documentary: "Trump: What's the Deal"? Trump is consistent - in an awful sort of way. https://t.co/KuOEhT7Gt1Feb 08 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> trumpthemovie.com | Trump: What's the Deal?Watch the FilmFeb 08 00:50
schestowitzLack of consistency is a problem when the present position itself needs to be discredited, not when someone is openly vileFeb 08 00:51
schestowitzI'll watch the movie shortlyFeb 08 00:53
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schestowitzhttp://trumpthemovie.com/watch/Feb 08 01:02
cubexyzok, last night I tried out vector linux classic on a celeron 1.8 with the video onboardFeb 08 01:06
cubexyzand the combination was awfulFeb 08 01:06
cubexyzI think the chipset was i810 and vector didn't know what to do with itFeb 08 01:06
cubexyzso it's back to figuring out what to doFeb 08 01:07
oiaohmi810 is not a very good card.Feb 08 01:10
oiaohmcubexyz: just to be fun some failed Nvidia video cards when the Nvidia gpu stops becomes i810 cards.Feb 08 01:10
MinceRhow do they do that?Feb 08 01:11
cubexyzoiaohm, got a question for you...Feb 08 01:11
cubexyzwould getting the fastest AGP card ever made help my old P3 coppermine 866 mhz computer?Feb 08 01:12
oiaohmMinceR: because they turned out to be dual GPU.   Intel GPU was hidden by the Nvidia one.Feb 08 01:12
oiaohmMinceR: it was a power saving mod Nvidia did on some desktop cards before they did it in laptops.Feb 08 01:13
cubexyzgrengerbilFeb 08 01:13
cubexyzah, it's been a while since I've done that :-PFeb 08 01:14
MinceR:)Feb 08 01:16
oiaohmcubexyz: faster AGP card ever can only help a old CPU so far.   Depends on workload lots of workloads don't use GPU at all.Feb 08 01:20
cubexyzfor video playbackFeb 08 01:21
cubexyzis it worth trying or do I just replace the motherboard Feb 08 01:21
oiaohmcubexyz: video playback most of the time is not that evil its more a question does the card have the acclerated decoding for the formats you want to play.Feb 08 01:22
oiaohmcubexyz: to max out video playback on a p3 would not require the faster agp card ever made.Feb 08 01:22
oiaohmcubexyz: of course depending on what file you are attempt to play back it would be possible for the P3 to run out of IO to transfer the video.Feb 08 01:23
oiaohmcubexyz: out of IO making card bigger will not help you.Feb 08 01:24
cubexyzthe radeon 9550 works well on P3Feb 08 01:24
oiaohmFor video play back replacing that you are not going to see any improvement.Feb 08 01:25
cubexyzif I replace the motherboard what CPU would be the coolest running?Feb 08 01:25
oiaohmOther than possible color improvement because some of the old radeons as they age go off color.Feb 08 01:25
oiaohmcubexyz: I would have to dig though the cpu lists to answer what would be the coolest running.Feb 08 01:26
cubexyzI heard the new intel skylake arch was pretty goodFeb 08 01:27
oiaohmcubexyz: there is quite a range of temperatures in skylake.Feb 08 01:27
cubexyzdoesn't need to be the fastestFeb 08 01:28
cubexyzI assume any of them would be a quantum leap over a p3Feb 08 01:28
cubexyzeven the slowest i3 would probably doFeb 08 01:29
oiaohmcubexyz: speed yes tempeture not all.Feb 08 01:31
oiaohmp3 is less than 40w of heat per cpu.Feb 08 01:31
oiaohmFrom memory skylake is from 15 to 110w of heat.Feb 08 01:31
oiaohmOf course that is depending on what skylake cpu is choosen.Feb 08 01:32
oiaohmcubexyz: just to be confusing skylake heat does not align to clockspeed.Feb 08 01:33
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cubexyzP3 866 mhz coppermine is listed with 30.8 wattFeb 08 01:39
cubexyzcould you put a P3-M in a desktop? some of those were 7 wattFeb 08 01:41
cubexyzcore duo U2500 9 wattFeb 08 01:42
cubexyzbut what has the best IO/CPU Power/heat dissipation ratio, no ideaFeb 08 01:43
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oiaohmcubexyz: you now get why I was being vague its not an easy answer.Feb 08 01:50
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cubexyzok, vector linux 7.1 light is decent enough Feb 08 06:21
cubexyzI had some issues with fonts on the new firefoxFeb 08 06:21
cubexyzsmtube worked quite wellFeb 08 06:22
cubexyzthere's something up with firefox versions 32 and laterFeb 08 06:59
cubexyzparts of the font are transparent, just doesn't look rightFeb 08 06:59
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ff-text-fail.pngFeb 08 07:01
*amarsh04 runs a radeon 9550 on this machineFeb 08 07:06
amarsh04the other machine has a radeon hd 5450 (slowest I could get for pci express)Feb 08 07:07
cubexyzyou wanted the slowest?Feb 08 07:07
amarsh04lowest powerFeb 08 07:08
cubexyzah rightFeb 08 07:08
amarsh04it can still play back 1920 x 1080 video alright most of the timeFeb 08 07:09
cubexyzthere are times when I actually did want a slower deviceFeb 08 07:10
amarsh04might get something faster later on if I really want toFeb 08 07:10
cubexyzold computer needed an old cdrom, wouldn't work with a new oneFeb 08 07:10
amarsh04well, I couldn't buy a new CD/DVD drive with IDE interfaceFeb 08 07:10
amarsh04and I wanted the drive to be bootable, so I found a secondhand oneFeb 08 07:11
cubexyzyou might be able to find a NOS one on ebayFeb 08 07:11
cubexyzI have a P3 box that I added an IDE/SATA card toFeb 08 07:12
amarsh04I ended up getting a Soundblaster Audigy sound card on ebayFeb 08 07:12
amarsh04can it boot off devices attached to that card?Feb 08 07:12
cubexyznever tried thatFeb 08 07:13
cubexyzlet me give knoppixmame a tryFeb 08 07:13
amarsh04this old machine's bios has a "SCSI" option in the boot order (and I have a SCSI card in it, but don't boot from it)Feb 08 07:14
amarsh04it's a slightly different matter between being able to support a storage device on a particular machine and being able to boot from itFeb 08 07:15
amarsh04not sure that this machine can boot from USB stick so I use the CD drive for emergency boot repairsFeb 08 07:15
cubexyzI have to say no in my caseFeb 08 07:17
cubexyzP3 QDI motherboard with IDE/SATA cardFeb 08 07:17
cubexyzprobably wouldn't be able to boot the SATA hard drive eitherFeb 08 07:17
cubexyzsurely that is a BIOS limitationFeb 08 07:19
amarsh04yesFeb 08 07:26
amarsh04anyway, time to switch machinesFeb 08 07:27
amarsh04bfnFeb 08 07:27
oiaohmcubexyz: not exactly that simple.  Some IDE/SATA cards append the BIOS so allowing systems to boot bigger hard drives than the default BIOS can.Feb 08 08:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IP_Meldrew/status/696619725653200896Feb 08 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IP_Meldrew: How could we forget you when you're in our face so much? Will you remain blind, when it is a success for SMEs? https://t.co/4JRhOFmovVFeb 08 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If the #upc ever becomes a reality (it's not inevitable, no matter what #epo and #patent lawyers say), remember those who warned about itFeb 08 09:03
TweetTuxMachines@bastianbest     "European Software Patents Weekly" is out!Feb 08 09:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | European Software Patents WeeklyFeb 08 09:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/696626874890522624Feb 08 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz US pilot "was arrested as an “ISIS fighter” was a complete fabrication." https://t.co/ZlvWecMHD8 #turkeyFeb 08 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theintercept.com | U.S. Air Force Veteran, Smeared as “an ISIS Fighter,” Just Returned to the U.S.Feb 08 09:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/696628130971262976Feb 08 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: MT @schestowitz SIPO (China's Patent Office) Taken Over by Patent Maximalists https://t.co/1oGM9ts9IyFeb 08 09:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IP_Meldrew/status/696633920859799552Feb 08 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IP_Meldrew: Are you so relentlessly Luddite in all things? Computers weren't a success until they were invented and tried. https://t.co/XRoEWD2N6SFeb 08 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: No examples #upc is a success for SMEs and since UPC is still an #epo and #patent lawyers' fantasy, can take time https://t.co/GwiyVswqZnFeb 08 10:04
schestowitzIn spite of patentsFeb 08 10:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.5 RC3  https://t.co/m4NSrQQU5cFeb 08 10:06
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agonarch/status/696656041317167104Feb 08 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agonarch: @schestowitz @zoobab With more conservative publishing or peer review TR would make huge impact. Btw: Why haven't you fixed your CSS theme?Feb 08 11:26
schestowitzWhat needs fixing in CSS?Feb 08 11:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agonarch/status/696658565344448512Feb 08 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agonarch: @schestowitz @zoobab This overlayed shadow image. Either align it properly to the right or get rid off it. ;) https://t.co/npP7iEfnnkFeb 08 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agonarch: @schestowitz @zoobab This overlayed shadow image. Either align it properly to the right or get rid off it. ;) https://t.co/npP7iEfnnkFeb 08 11:37
schestowitzThis boils down to taste, I guess. This design is part of the original, which I lated modified.Feb 08 11:37
schestowitz*laterFeb 08 11:37
cubexyzoiaohm, if you're still around... I tried everything to get the cdrom on the PCI IDE/SATA card to bootFeb 08 11:39
cubexyzit's chipset is VT642Feb 08 11:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/696662482174275584Feb 08 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @agonarch @schestowitz it looks crap for years. Just pick another nice looking wordpress theme, it will be faster and cheaper.Feb 08 11:53
schestowitzit's a matter of taste, and consistency across the site, preserving old layouts tooFeb 08 11:53
oiaohmcubexyz: there are differences between cards.   Some PCI IDE/SATA and boot ones some are not.   I guess that one does not have a firmware block to add it self to the bios.Feb 08 12:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DavidBrooke_IP/status/696664775963643904Feb 08 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DavidBrooke_IP: @schestowitz what about Sanders?Feb 08 12:41
schestowitzI don't think he'd be loyal to corporations/corporate pressure where it's a disservice to public interests. Same with Corbyn.Feb 08 12:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IP_Meldrew/status/696665259596238848Feb 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IP_Meldrew: What proof is there that it was in spite of patents? https://t.co/dEzsItfD21Feb 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @IP_Meldrew In spite of patentsFeb 08 12:42
schestowitzA lot of innovation happened without patentsFeb 08 12:42
schestowitzIncluding, famously, the Internet and WWWFeb 08 12:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/aral/status/696667440252653568Feb 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aral: “Assange’s continued confinement…constitutes…knowing and intentional commission of several prosecutable war crimes.” https://t.co/fQ4RCax7jOFeb 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Sweden and the UK have served and continue to serve as proxies for the United States in its pursuit of Assange" https://t.co/DHio8m9SufFeb 08 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME and KDE https://t.co/Iy2EggoBeOFeb 08 13:27
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/eUcTHkpFeb 08 15:10
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JernHi, how can I send you a translation of the Juve article?Feb 08 20:19
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schestowitz> http://chronicle.com/article/The-Water-Next-Time-Professor/235136Feb 08 20:26
schestowitz> Feb 08 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chronicle.com | The Water Next Time: Professor Who Helped Expose Crisis in Flint Says Public Science Is Broken - The Chronicle of Higher Education [ http://ur1.ca/ohugk ]Feb 08 20:26
schestowitz> ==Feb 08 20:26
schestowitz> Feb 08 20:26
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schestowitz> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2445551/people-and-admin-settings-are-windows-biggest-security-problemFeb 08 20:26
schestowitz> Feb 08 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | People and admin settings are Windows' biggest security problem- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/ohugl ]Feb 08 20:26
schestowitz> more blaming the victimFeb 08 20:26
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schestowitz> http://blog.jdpfu.com/2016/02/07/sorry-ec2-amazon-visitorsFeb 08 20:33
schestowitz> Feb 08 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jdpfu.com | Sorry EC2 Amazon Visitors | JDPFu.com 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/ohugy ]Feb 08 20:34
schestowitz> spiders?Feb 08 20:34
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/06/28/aws-ddos/Feb 08 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Amazon AWS Used for DDOS Attacks Against My Web Sites, Amazon Takes 14 Hours to Reply But Not Take Action (Updatedx5) [ http://ur1.ca/mzb2g ]Feb 08 20:34
XRevan86schestowitz: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1353ec80b0080133094c6e81d42d71a6 %)Feb 08 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?Feb 08 21:06
schestowitzXRevan86: what's the ending of that url?Feb 08 21:08
schestowitzOh, I see...Feb 08 21:09
schestowitz"you do ?"Feb 08 21:09
schestowitzI don'tFeb 08 21:09
XRevan86schestowitz: I know. Autoreposting to Diaspora* can be confusing.Feb 08 21:09
XRevan86schestowitz: It is auto-, right?Feb 08 21:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/696669844855517185Feb 08 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Cp2102 USB serial controlling a relay to power on/off a Bananapi, plus accessing its serial console #sunxi https://t.co/2RvI8cjCkDFeb 08 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Cp2102 USB serial controlling a relay to power on/off a Bananapi, plus accessing its serial console #sunxi https://t.co/2RvI8cjCkDFeb 08 21:22
schestowitzXRevan86: what does it mean?>Feb 08 21:23
XRevan86schestowitz: Do you use some sort of script to get things into Diaspora*?Feb 08 21:23
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schestowitznoFeb 08 21:33
schestowitzThat's where I post everythingFeb 08 21:33
schestowitzfrom there is passed to TwitterFeb 08 21:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/696824782059409408Feb 08 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz the worst is when you tap a Twitter link and the page opens and switches to App Store in #ios urging you to install an app!Feb 08 22:38
schestowitzsame in Android (even old versions)Feb 08 22:38
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schestowitzhttp://jackofkent.com/2016/02/the-prisons-policy-of-a-mischivious-demon/Feb 08 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jackofkent.com | The prisons policy of a mischievous demon – Jack of Kent blogFeb 08 23:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Long Term Support vs Rolling Linux ReleaseFeb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/l1MRYi3BHc (www.datamation.com)Feb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohupmFeb 08 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Long Term Support vs Rolling Linux Release - DatamationFeb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers GroveFeb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines                 I/O  https://t.co/2TltMdK1Jp (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohupnFeb 08 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers Grove I/O ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 08 23:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Long Term Support vs Rolling Linux Release https://t.co/l1MRYi3BHc'Feb 08 23:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone Users Will Have to Wait a...'Feb 08 23:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://t.co/GVvEz0WbtM (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuruFeb 08 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux.Conf.Au 2016 Videos Now Online - PhoronixFeb 08 23:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LCA 2016 Videos Now OnlineFeb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GVvEz0WbtM (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohurvFeb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 6 Marshmallow update: when can I getFeb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines                 it? https://t.co/I5YuVrXQQ1 (www.techradar.com)Feb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohurwFeb 08 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | Android 6 Marshmallow update: when can I get it? | TechRadarFeb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast,Feb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Fully-Free-Software WorkstationFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mMaIUJS4Ku (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohusgFeb 08 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast, Fully-Free-Software Workstation - PhoronixFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gas Guzzlers Extreme looks like it is going toFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 come to Linux, porting starts soonFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hl3BQ7cuh9 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuskFeb 08 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Gas Guzzlers Extreme looks like it is going to come to Linux, porting starts soon | GamingOnLinuxFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unvanquished Alpha 48 Released, One Step CloserFeb 08 23:55
TweetTuxMachines                 To Beta https://t.co/gD4NkFkmpRFeb 08 23:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 23:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuslFeb 08 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unvanquished Alpha 48 Released, One Step Closer To Beta - PhoronixFeb 08 23:55
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/hFF75hK.jpgFeb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiplayer indie action game 'Super SnowFeb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Fight' may get a Linux version if there isFeb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines                 enough demand https://t.co/ElCMb4uQ3jFeb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohut9Feb 08 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Multiplayer indie action game 'Super Snow Fight' may get a Linux version if there is enough demand | GamingOnLinuxFeb 08 23:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lossless Compression Brings Possible SpeedupsFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines                 To Skylake Linux Mesa DriverFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LCacl6Uvm7 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohutmFeb 09 00:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lossless Compression Brings Possible Speedups To Skylake Linux Mesa Driver - PhoronixFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers GroveFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines                 I/O https://t.co/Po4f24jonqFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohutnFeb 09 00:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers Grove I/O | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails 2.0 https://t.co/91eTnKnC1O (error)Feb 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohutpFeb 09 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 2.0 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s How Windows 10 ‘Spying’ Forced A User ToFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Switch To Linux Mint On His ComputerFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9FzG2SJ8GV (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuu5Feb 09 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s How Windows 10 ‘Spying’ Forced A User To Switch To Linux Mint On His Computer | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Schedule Tasks with CronFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DFW6ePi4Ae (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuu6Feb 09 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Schedule Tasks with Cron | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast,Feb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Fully-Free-Software WorkstationFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bCYrbIrHVs (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuu7Feb 09 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast, Fully-Free-Software Workstation | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 8/2/2016: Vista 10 Nags Help GNU/Linux,Feb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Nautilus UpdatedFeb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/u9mO3ib8Eh (techrights.org)Feb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuzeFeb 09 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/2/2016: Vista 10 Nags Help GNU/Linux, Nautilus Updated | TechrightsFeb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/gTvr0XbiLfFeb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuzfFeb 09 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:51
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 8/2/2016: Vista 10 Nags Help GNU/Linux, Nautilus...'Feb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/8fccY6ch1ZFeb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuziFeb 09 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/X9aQ5vZ31PFeb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuzjFeb 09 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:52
MinceRhttp://i2.wp.com/www.bugmartini.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-01-29-The-Matrix-Trumpolutions.pngFeb 09 00:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel Space: Linux, GraphicsFeb 09 01:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g7vf3uepZ8 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 01:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0jFeb 09 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: Linux, Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 09 01:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/7GTDssjMCdFeb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0kFeb 09 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/YB6nhm2ZQIFeb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0lFeb 09 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 01:01
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/rGPfwFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Glide app brings #Jetsons vibe to AndroidFeb 09 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | When you realize why you hate someone. - Album on ImgurFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 smart watches https://t.co/mMN2ASxWCyFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.timesofisrael.com) #android #linuxFeb 09 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timesofisrael.com | Glide app brings Jetsons vibe to Android smart watches | The Times of IsraelFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0pFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Report: Google to launch a Gear VR competitor,Feb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 build VR into Android OSFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3uJJCKixtq (arstechnica.com)Feb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 #android #linux #vrFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0xFeb 09 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Report: Google to launch a Gear VR competitor, build VR into Android OS | Ars TechnicaFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Swapnil Bhartiya’s #ArchLinux guideFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rl4qzRtL5n (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0yFeb 09 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Swapnil Bhartiya's Arch Linux guide | Tux MachinesFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Best #Recipe Manager for #AndroidFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KkibdQllSN (lifehacker.com)Feb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0zFeb 09 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | The Best Recipe Manager for AndroidFeb 09 01:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tn_Recipes      @tuxmachines hello! we're recommending your msgFeb 09 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 on #theneeds #Recipes! VisitFeb 09 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4fIR737LMz (www.theneeds.com) & RTFeb 09 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 to spread the word!Feb 09 01:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv33Feb 09 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theneeds.com | Theneeds - tuxmachines's suggestionFeb 09 01:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/gTvr0XbiLfFeb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  Feb 09 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvemFeb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Swapnil Bhartiya's Arch Linux guideFeb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Uc1J6uNg89 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvepFeb 09 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Swapnil Bhartiya's Arch Linux guide | Tux MachinesFeb 09 03:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exton|OS Light Is One of the First LinuxFeb 09 03:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 09 03:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Xajr49mLnk (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 03:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvgwFeb 09 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exton|OS Light Is One of the First Linux Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux MachinesFeb 09 03:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet EditorFeb 09 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, MoreFeb 09 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2K8xit8Blb (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 07:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvysFeb 09 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet Editor Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, More | Tux MachinesFeb 09 07:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/YB6nhm2ZQIFeb 09 09:49
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 09:49
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 09 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwa1Feb 09 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Reproducible builds: week 41 in Stretch cycle Feb 09 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T9fhf9icyI (people.debian.org)Feb 09 10:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwd5Feb 09 10:02
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schestowitzRe: tough oneFeb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Its good about Spanish translations have made it into sites that show up inFeb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Google. ThanksFeb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Saturday I did send you the number 50 since the begining of the year:Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> [edik@mybox ~]$ ll -tr  techrights/ | wc -lFeb 09 10:22
schestowitz> 51Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> I will start a couple of classes but I'll try to keep up as much as I can.Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Here it goes 51!Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Have a nice TuesdayFeb 09 10:22
schestowitzThe number of patent lawyers reading my site (to understand 'the other side') seems to have grown a lot. We change their views on these subject or illuminate them.Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz# ¿Qué_esta_mal_con_la_OEP? #last part of urlFeb 09 10:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Developer Experience Hackfest 2016Feb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yswsMPTlDH (blogs.gnome.org)Feb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwi6Feb 09 11:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Opinion: BlackBerry PRIV’s bloatware makesFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Android better [Video] https://t.co/bUsBJIbayjFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (9to5google.com)Feb 09 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9to5google.com | Opinion: BlackBerry PRIV’s bloatware makes Android better [Video] | 9to5GoogleFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwi7Feb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/qnfCmBd2BEFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwi9Feb 09 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exton|OS Light Is One of the First LinuxFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XSsRqjmayB (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 11:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Light Is One of the First Linux Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet EditorFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, MoreFeb 09 11:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet Editor Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, MoreFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can a $50 Android tablet be any good?Feb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/obWm2uaYu5 (www.technobuffalo.com)Feb 09 11:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical reckons Android phone-makers willFeb 09 11:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Firefox 44.0.1 Patches Graphics StartupFeb 09 11:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Mozilla Firefox 44.0.1 Patches Graphics Startup Crashes on Linux, Adds Gecko SDKFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here Is My Linux 4.5-rc3 Kernel Spin WithFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                 AMDGPU PowerPlay & CIK EnabledFeb 09 11:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackel 4.14.14 kde beta1 has been releasedFeb 09 11:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slackel.gr | .:Slackel - Hellenic Linux Distribution::.Feb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk CloningFeb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Live CD Is Available for DownloadFeb 09 11:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live CD Is Available for DownloadFeb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 open source tools for Linux system monitoringFeb 09 11:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | 4 system monitoring tools for Linux | Opensource.comFeb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora Infrastructure – Year In ReviewFeb 09 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch Could Finally Get Selfie StickFeb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Support in OTA 10 https://t.co/nEQGeKTqFOFeb 09 11:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Could Finally Get Selfie Stick Support in OTA 10Feb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making,Feb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Here's What Works https://t.co/uimKXATxjCFeb 09 11:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making, Here's What WorksFeb 09 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ubuntu development: Long time no Snappy ClinicFeb 09 11:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daniel.holba.ch | Long time no Snappy Clinic – Daniel Holbach's blogFeb 09 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Get Acquainted with the Latest Snapcraft 2 Features on February's Snappy ClinicFeb 09 11:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux 10 "Xfce" Screencast andFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Screenshots  https://t.co/40HtYQnc3dFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org) new releaseFeb 09 11:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | MakuluLinux 10 "Xfce" Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 09 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MakuluLinux 10 Xfce Edition Is Now Live and Does Not Disappoint, Says the DevFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Linux, GraphicsFeb 09 11:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Linux, Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 open source tools for Linux system monitoringFeb 09 11:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 open source tools for Linux system monitoring | Tux MachinesFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk CloningFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Live CD Is Available for DownloadFeb 09 11:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live CD Is Available for Download | Tux MachinesFeb 09 11:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making,Feb 09 13:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Here's What Works https://t.co/U3C1sbUefWFeb 09 13:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 13:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making, Here's What Works | Tux MachinesFeb 09 13:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Long time no Snappy ClinicFeb 09 13:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Long time no Snappy Clinic | Tux MachinesFeb 09 13:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mesfin_Haile/status/697059299130998785Feb 09 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mesfin_Haile: @schestowitz @glynmoody who wants to lead failing economies, when politicians are Jesuit trained to do follyFeb 09 14:39
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697068695915462656   https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/697069051869319169Feb 09 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz @glynmoody I hear the administrative council are asking advice from senior judges. Conference at the end of February I think.Feb 09 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @Twpalovi @schestowitz interesting - thanksFeb 09 14:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, Someone I know "got Windows 10", as in he was running Windows 7 and then Microsoft marked 10 as a recommended update, which Windows 7 treats as urgent updates by default.Feb 09 15:10
DaemonFCSo he goes to boot up his laptop and this "Windows failed to start correctly." thing comes up.Feb 09 15:11
DaemonFCSo he reboots, and it manages to get to the desktop after a while, but the video driver is broken and nothing from Steam runs. Feb 09 15:11
DaemonFCI wonder how typical this is.Feb 09 15:11
DaemonFCPeople never want to mess with a working system. Microsoft knows that. They push Windows 10 aggressively, and well, sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.Feb 09 15:12
DaemonFCI wonder if trying to back it out is the right answer or if something bad would happen going that direction too.Feb 09 15:13
DaemonFCI wonder how much lost productivity this will bring in macro.Feb 09 15:14
abeNd-orgi havent seen that myself yet, but all the ones ive done i did a cleanup first before running the update *shrug*Feb 09 15:17
abeNd-orgheck one of my dad's machines went from vista/8/8.1/10 & somehow it is still kickingFeb 09 15:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft's Copyrights- and Patents-BasedFeb 09 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry onFeb 09 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4CVK19qEoR (techrights.org)Feb 09 15:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An open source fix leads to a new career in ITFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pW8m6KIDIK (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. NowFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Watch Him Do the Same With AIFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K8BYpvxZ2m (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tunir 0.13 is released and one year ofFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 development https://t.co/JURtDEWM1aFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releasesFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/X2WzettVoW (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpetsFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 code contributions from across 30 founderFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 members https://t.co/gEaKEcdD5IFeb 09 15:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on | TechrightsFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An open source fix leads to a new career in IT | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. Now Watch Him Do the Same With AI | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tunir 0.13 is released and one year of development | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releases | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpets code contributions from across 30 founder members | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All SupportedFeb 09 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/vwep7aVLgGFeb 09 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 16:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux MachinesFeb 09 16:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft's Copyrights- and Patents-BasedFeb 09 16:43
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry onFeb 09 16:43
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/4CVK19qEoR (techrights.org)Feb 09 16:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on | TechrightsFeb 09 16:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7025157Feb 09 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hillary Clinton’s Populist Charade http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/08/hillary-clintons-populist-charade/ not just working for Wall Street but also a good liar. #clintonFeb 09 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'www.counterpunch.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/08/hillary-clintons-populist-charade/ )Feb 09 16:56
schestowitz"It stops as soon as the primary is over, then she tries to be more conservative than the repugs"Feb 09 16:56
schestowitzMaybe she can defect to GOP and the mask will fall :-)Feb 09 16:57
abeNd-orgplease, no more clintons or bushs....Feb 09 17:02
abeNd-org"Whoever wins... We lose."Feb 09 17:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697026559765393409Feb 09 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @pinkbike that would be great if you could explain what's new about Stan ZTR Flow rims https://t.co/31Vy20D83cFeb 09 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.bikemag.com/news/stans-notubes-wins-patent-battle-against-specialized/#roobDuF1mf61TDOy.97 )Feb 09 17:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/ddpihAvLzjFeb 09 17:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 17:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 17:09
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/ddpihAvLzj'Feb 09 17:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/696975571918655488Feb 09 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: 20 years of decleration of Independence of cyberspace, and the internet is still too easy to censor, even TOR can be DDOSed #eff @jpbarlowFeb 09 17:14
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 17:20
schestowitz"Feb 09 17:20
schestowitzMy favorite part is when I am forced to manually strip the :s out of file names that a TV recording app produces, because FAT32 (which is all that many Android devices can support on SD cards for some reason) does not allow them.Feb 09 17:20
schestowitzThat, or the 4 GB file size limit.Feb 09 17:20
schestowitz"Feb 09 17:20
schestowitz"But I was told Microsoft was our friend now..."Feb 09 17:20
MinceRwith friends like that, who needs enemies?Feb 09 17:21
schestowitzexactlyFeb 09 17:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/697115930011295744Feb 09 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Obama signs two executive orders on cybersecurity @schestowitz https://t.co/fKaqTC0AEIFeb 09 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.usatoday.com | Obama signs two executive orders on cybersecurityFeb 09 18:09
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 18:11
schestowitz"And I was told I was paranoid for not believing them!"Feb 09 18:11
schestowitz"I would just feel such a cunt doing that job."Feb 09 18:11
schestowitz"This is not about copyright, this is about Microsoft patenting software. That's, ofc, impossible in theory, but American patent system works under assumption that anything can be patented until someone objects it, so Microsoft holds patents to stuff like "storing long and short filename" or "double click". EU companies like TomTom are free to "violate" such nonsensical patents as long as they stay in EU, but once they try to do business in Feb 09 18:12
schestowitzUSA, M$ lawyer knocks on their doors and makes offer that cannot be refused. Well, it can be, in theory, but have fun trying to win patent lawsuit against Microsot..."Feb 09 18:12
schestowitz"Feb 09 18:12
schestowitz    Well, it can be, in theory, but have fun trying to win patent lawsuit against Microsoft...Feb 09 18:12
schestowitzYeah, 10 years, several appeals, and millions of dollars later.... This is just an absurd situation.Feb 09 18:12
schestowitz"Feb 09 18:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/yq0xQJvNTWFeb 09 18:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 18:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 18:14
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/yq0xQJvNTW'Feb 09 18:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026080Feb 09 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A bunch of politicians who know zilch about mass #surveillance and are misled by spying profiteers make 'errors' again http://www.itpro.co.uk/public-sector/26015/snooper-s-charter-fails-to-protect-privacy-warn-mpsFeb 09 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itpro.co.uk | Snooper’s Charter fails to protect privacy, warn MPs | IT PRO [ http://ur1.ca/ohyac ]Feb 09 18:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A new frontier for open source: Linux willFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 power our robotic futureFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IXVGB8ATZZ (www.zdnet.com)Feb 09 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | A new frontier for open source: Linux will power our robotic future | ZDNetFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An open source fix leads to a new career in ITFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uBtDYLpaXx (opensource.com)Feb 09 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | My Linux Story: Tim College | Opensource.comFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. NowFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Watch Him Do the Same With AIFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IWxS1uMoCx (www.wired.com)Feb 09 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. Now Watch Him Do the Same With AI | WIREDFeb 09 18:19
schestowitzMicrosoft apologist:Feb 09 18:24
schestowitz"Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzYeah that's what I don't get, MS isn't unique or even particularly egregious in its use of the patent system.Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzI mean, the problem isn't that Microdollaroft are dickheads, the problem is that businesses are amoral and the American patent system is so moronic I can only assume it was invented by a five year old. Surely the way to fix it is to overhaul that system rather than writing angry opinion pieces like the OP's one? Because, yeah, under US law what they're doing is legal and within their rights.Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzI mean, Apple has been playing this game on and off for years with Android. Patent trolls crop up all the time that use the mercury-huffing retardation of the US patent system to patent crap like 'devices which use electricity' and then suing people for breaking it. Heck, to return to Apple and the idea that standards should be reasonably easy to get, they are many, many times worse than Microsoft at wrecking compatibility between their Feb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releasesFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/S9h8BYKT5K (www.zdnet.com)Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzstuff and others and answering concerns with 'lol buy our stuff'.Feb 09 18:24
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schestowitzAll this opinion piece, and most of the other ones I've read, do is get angry at Microsoft for exercising its rights. That doesn't make them dickheads (particularly in the case of the article's "secret deal", businesses aren't required to reveal that information so why would they?) and calling them that isn't going to do anything. If a law's broken you change the law, you don't get angry at people for using it.Feb 09 18:24
schestowitz"Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpetsFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 code contributions from across 30 founderFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 members https://t.co/6yRweYX5OHFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ibtimes.co.uk)Feb 09 18:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpets code contributions from across 30 founder membersFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All SupportedFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/ozWiTO9JOXFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohyciFeb 09 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 09 18:24
schestowitzMisses the point that I denounce not only MSFT for this kind of aggressionFeb 09 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android vendors eyeing Ubuntu – Canonical chiefFeb 09 19:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/h3Fqu6QCa8Feb 09 19:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.mobileworldlive.com)Feb 09 19:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobileworldlive.com | Android vendors eyeing Ubuntu – Canonical chief - Mobile World LiveFeb 09 19:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/697146880216670208Feb 09 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: Amén too that ;) https://t.co/sLlQjByIWsFeb 09 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #internet as a free, emancipating, open expression platform is in a state of demise. Pressing "like" on #facebook "causes" isn't progress.Feb 09 19:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora 23 'Coral' Linux distro is finally hereFeb 09 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 -- Fedora for the rest of usFeb 09 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/upNh0ecPFa (betanews.com)Feb 09 20:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Korora 23 'Coral' Linux distro is finally here -- Fedora for the rest of usFeb 09 20:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KShutdown Review - Scheduled Shutdown,Feb 09 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Restarts, and Other Actions on LinuxFeb 09 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sJx08zMZtz (www.softpedia.com)Feb 09 20:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softpedia.com | KShutdown Review - Scheduled Shutdown, Restarts, and Other Actions on LinuxFeb 09 20:05
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 20:14
schestowitz"Feb 09 20:14
schestowitzIn that case, I will love Microsoft the moment they jettison their legal department. Just let me know.Feb 09 20:15
schestowitzMicrosoft functions as a large unit, you can't just look at only the engineering part.Feb 09 20:15
schestowitz"Feb 09 20:15
schestowitz"Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Saviour ZFS?"Feb 09 20:15
schestowitz"We just need to create the monopoly with our own superior formats, protocols, etc. In many places, that is happening. Microsoft (and apple) has certainly put computing back a few decades, though."Feb 09 20:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland Live OS Is Now Based On #DebianFeb 09 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Testing, Working #KDE #Wayland SupportFeb 09 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g1u6l23cfb (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 20:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohz55Feb 09 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland Live OS Is Now Based On Debian Testing, Working KDE Wayland Support - PhoronixFeb 09 20:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspbian Now Ships With Experimental SupportFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 For The New VC4 OpenGL DriverFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hig0QjXUi1 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohz56Feb 09 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Raspbian Now Ships With Experimental Support For The New VC4 OpenGL Driver - PhoronixFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best AndroidFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 tablet you can get under $200Feb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/l03hUmkcpM (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 20:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best Android tablet you can get under $200 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian-based Raspbian and RebeccaBlackOSFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bzcziwAvR1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 20:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-based Raspbian and RebeccaBlackOS | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 Truths About Working on a Community ProjectFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Inside an Open Source CompanyFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cWDwnVBgsZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Truths About Working on a Community Project Inside an Open Source Company | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora 23 https://t.co/kUSsvlHJaeFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohz70Feb 09 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Korora 23 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large LinuxFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Workloads with IntegrityFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NunvBC4agN (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohz71Feb 09 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large Linux Workloads with Integrity | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Twelve robots that run LinuxFeb 09 21:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9aRykgOIGb (www.zdnet.com)Feb 09 21:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohze1Feb 09 21:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Twelve robots that run Linux | ZDNetFeb 09 21:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dying Light: The Following - Enhanced EditionFeb 09 21:19
TweetTuxMachines                 now available for Linux, texture issuesFeb 09 21:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/r1V41OwBUF (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 09 21:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohze2Feb 09 21:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Dying Light: The Following - Enhanced Edition now available for Linux, texture issues | GamingOnLinuxFeb 09 21:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firewatch, a first person mystery adventureFeb 09 21:38
TweetTuxMachines                 game released for Linux & SteamOSFeb 09 21:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g6MBvUlVXz (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 09 21:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Firewatch, a first person mystery adventure game released for Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 09 21:38
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 21:41
schestowitz"They're lawyers, they don't have such thing as a conscience."Feb 09 21:41
schestowitz"The problems with Microsft are mostly lawyers and managers, afaik :("Feb 09 21:41
schestowitz"Nah, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's true. If the company wants to portray a certain image, somebody in the company certainly has the power to make that happen. What this tells me is that nobody in management actually cares or is interested in being friendly towards FOSS."Feb 09 21:41
schestowitz"Actually Microsoft is an interesting case study in adversarial departments, it doesn't function as a large unit so much as management unit riding herd on dozens of opposed project teams. It's never so blatantly obvious as when you set up Microsoft infrastructure, where it becomes utterly apparent that no one who built the software had anything to do with the people who decide which features are billable."Feb 09 21:41
schestowitz"Do it before hand. Inodes take space, it's understandable they aren't infinite. But it should be automatic."Feb 09 21:41
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44pzah/the_situation_of_discord_between_rlinux_moderators/Feb 09 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The situation of discord between r/linux moderators : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohzj4 ]Feb 09 21:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 - See What's NewFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/0FPYnHcN4h (www.youtube.com)Feb 09 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Zorin OS 11 - See What's New - YouTubeFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Desktop Survey Project - Feb/2016 >Feb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Ty2wT2Cqu7 (www.prahladyeri.com)Feb 09 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Following KDE's "Simple by default, powerfulFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 when needed" design mantra, settings are split"Feb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OAjsYCKOhX (blogs.kde.org)Feb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohznbFeb 09 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.kde.org | HIG about Simple vs. Advanced Settings | blogs.kde.orgFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions OfFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 2015 https://t.co/uOPkwFAazVFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions Of 2015 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Money In Open-Source SoftwareFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1uu9kM4YAm (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Money In Open-Source Software | Tux MachinesFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux or GNU/Linux – Here is What Every UserFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Should Know. https://t.co/Er8UF0C79VFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzneFeb 09 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux or GNU/Linux – Here is What Every User Should Know. | Tux MachinesFeb 09 22:08
cubexyzAndroid uses libc from BSD? I didn't know thatFeb 09 22:10
cubexyzstandard C library bionic, with BSD licenseFeb 09 22:13
cubexyzok, there was one "distro" before Yggdrasil called MCC Interim LinuxFeb 09 22:15
cubexyzand primitive floppy disk images before thatFeb 09 22:16
cubexyzalso SLS (Softlanding Linux System) deserves a mentionFeb 09 22:17
cubexyzand SLS was before both Yggdrasil and MCCFeb 09 22:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Upgrading Bios Firmware from Linux SystemsFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Pioneered by Dell https://t.co/C2NL15OjNIFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 22:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Upgrading Bios Firmware from Linux Systems Pioneered by Dell | Tux MachinesFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed intoFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and MouseFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ce14dDOHnC (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 22:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed into Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and Mouse | Tux MachinesFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     WOW, Wayland Over Wire! https://t.co/iGiorxzYcHFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (blogs.s-osg.org)Feb 09 22:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.s-osg.org | WOW, Wayland Over Wire! - Samsung Open Source Group BlogFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland Network Transparency Patches PublishedFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rUkYs4nJ2m (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzrkFeb 09 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland Network Transparency Patches Published - PhoronixFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NVIDIA 361.28 Linux Driver Released, MakesFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 GLVND Optional https://t.co/j9QPI4lXcmFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 22:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NVIDIA 361.28 Linux Driver Released, Makes GLVND Optional - PhoronixFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "exciting for anyone who wants a stable coreFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 system with a setup of KDE Plasma software onFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 to as recent as possible"Feb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eR5FcGFEb7 (notmart.org)Feb 09 22:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-notmart.org | Some Neon Artwork | MartFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best AndroidFeb 09 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 tablet you can get under $200Feb 09 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jYj8uoqHyU (www.cio.com)Feb 09 22:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best Android tablet you can get under $200 | CIOFeb 09 22:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large LinuxFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Workloads with Integrity Feb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/71UUEzIgbI (www.serverwatch.com)Feb 09 22:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.serverwatch.com | Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large Linux Workloads with IntegrityFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core: quick screenshot tourFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9Yau3ucBctFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxblog.darkduck.com)Feb 09 22:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Zorin OS 11 Core: quick screenshot tour - Linux notes from DarkDuckFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions OfFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 2015 https://t.co/v2e2R6vcBxFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Feb 09 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions Of 2015 « Everyday Linux UserFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed intoFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and MouseFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/O4psO8RKH4 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohztnFeb 09 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed into Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and MouseFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation’s Core InfrastructureFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Initiative Working with White House onFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Cybersecurity National Action PlanFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K8hOXHr5il (www.linux.com)Feb 09 22:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan | Linux.comFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 SupportsFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian 8.3 and Linux Mint 17.3Feb 09 22:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 Supports Debian 8.3 and Linux Mint 17.3Feb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny, rugged Bay Trail COM has wide-range powerFeb 09 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PUFb5BUxaS (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 09 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tiny, rugged Bay Trail COM has wide-range power ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 09 22:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 Supports Debian...'Feb 09 22:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 & Nvidia - Are we gonna have a goodFeb 09 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 time?  https://t.co/3AajuZLJanFeb 09 23:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review of XCOM 2 On Linux; Welcome Back,Feb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Commander https://t.co/2j0mRBxRHWFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) Tweaking PerformanceFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EfD1bJNzrf (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 09 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Review of XCOM 2 On Linux; Welcome Back, Commander - PhoronixFeb 09 23:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Tweaking Performance in XCOM 2 | GamingOnLinuxFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to FixFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 the Infamous Mir Bug, Says CanonicalFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9Ex5O9r7mw (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 23:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to Fix the Infamous Mir Bug, Says CanonicalFeb 09 23:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to...'Feb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation’s Core InfrastructureFeb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Initiative Working with White House onFeb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Cybersecurity National Action PlanFeb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2DXOickfWb (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 23:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan | Tux MachinesFeb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leaner Docker https://t.co/CLY9A6M6kuFeb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 23:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leaner Docker | Tux MachinesFeb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to FixFeb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines                 the Infamous Mir Bug, Says CanonicalFeb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZwFpDpFV6p (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 23:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to Fix the Infamous Mir Bug, Says Canonical | Tux MachinesFeb 09 23:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     InstallParty Phnom Penh https://t.co/L3enLskiszFeb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (karl-tux-stadt.de)Feb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi092Feb 10 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-karl-tux-stadt.de | Karl-Tux-Stadt » Blog Archi » InstallParty Phnom PenhFeb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Studio 2.0 beta speeds up app restartsFeb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/80LPs8kqyg (www.infoworld.com)Feb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi093Feb 10 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Android Studio 2.0 beta speeds up app restarts | InfoWorldFeb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Updates on GNOME CalculatorFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/RUF9kTtajGFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (siliconislandblog.wordpress.com)Feb 10 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconislandblog.wordpress.com | Updates on GNOME Calculator – Silicon IslandFeb 10 00:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/2A0GRf5M2jFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 00:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for NewcomersFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                 to Discover the Ubuntu FlavoursFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XkilJqcjlP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 00:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers to Discover the Ubuntu Flavours | Tux MachinesFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/tRZk0GF5u6Feb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0eqFeb 10 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, HasFeb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Been Updated to Version 2.0.5Feb 10 01:01
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0erFeb 10 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has Been Updated to Version 2.0.5 | Tux MachinesFeb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/QmnTQ0cVRmFeb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 01:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 10 01:01
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One_Battistelli in Cuba:Feb 10 01:14
One_http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/cuba/2016-01-22/suscribiran-oficinas-de-patentes-memorando-de-entendimiento/Feb 10 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juventudrebelde.cu | Suscribirán oficinas de patentes memorando de entendimiento - Cuba - Juventud Rebelde - Diario de la juventud cubana [ http://ur1.ca/oi0gq ]Feb 10 01:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.granma.cu | Visita a Cuba presidente de la Oficina Europea de Patentes › Cuba › Granma - Órgano oficial del PCC [ http://ur1.ca/oi0gr ]Feb 10 01:15
One_Cuban patents filed at the EPO in 2014: 7!Feb 10 01:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has...'Feb 10 01:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 9/2/2016: Linux in Robotics, HyperledgerFeb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Project https://t.co/0HtR172Qf8Feb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mfFeb 10 01:52
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 9/2/2016: Linux in Robotics, Hyperledger Project https://t.co/0HtR172Qf8'Feb 10 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/2/2016: Linux in Robotics, Hyperledger Project | TechrightsFeb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PlaybackPopover and Music viewsFeb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2VDABfem0D (jordanaluft.com)Feb 10 01:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jordanaluft.com | PlaybackPopover and Music views – Jordana LuftFeb 10 01:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for NewcomersFeb 10 01:53
TweetTuxMachines                 to Discover the Ubuntu FlavoursFeb 10 01:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g8X9mR9qxJ (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 01:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mhFeb 10 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers to Discover the Ubuntu FlavoursFeb 10 01:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers...'Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, HasFeb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Been Updated to Version 2.0.5Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sgTnkPige7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mtFeb 10 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has Been Updated to Version 2.0.5Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rosa Is a Real PowerhouseFeb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pb6uEJ1W19 (www.linuxinsider.com)Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0muFeb 10 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Rosa Is a Real Powerhouse | Reviews | LinuxInsiderFeb 10 01:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has...'Feb 10 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mentor Embedded Linux adds SMACK security andFeb 10 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 IoT support https://t.co/oGpYYGb10EFeb 10 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 10 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Mentor Embedded Linux adds SMACK security and IoT support ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 10 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0n0Feb 10 01:57
*TweetTuxMachines @SmartHomeDB favourited 'Mentor Embedded Linux adds SMACK security and IoT...'Feb 10 02:00
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cubexyzOk, new blog post... this time it's about Vector Linux 7.1 Light:Feb 10 02:16
cubexyzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2016/02/vector-linux-71-light.htmlFeb 10 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.com | Notes on Linux: Vector Linux 7.1 Light [ http://ur1.ca/oi0pp ]Feb 10 02:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turning Open Source into a #Multicore StandardFeb 10 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YLEFA4236k (www.eetimes.com)Feb 10 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 "combination of (embedded) Linux functionalityFeb 10 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 and RTOS performance."Feb 10 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eetimes.com | Turning Open Source into a Multicore Standard | EE TimesFeb 10 02:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel Space: Graphics https://t.co/io57eKkahiFeb 10 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 06:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 10 06:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/CCZjOM8ofdFeb 10 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 06:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Firefox 46 Web Browser to Finally BringFeb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Smoother Scrolling to LinuxFeb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Dj19vmBuX7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2hdFeb 10 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mozilla Firefox 46 Web Browser to Finally Bring Smoother Scrolling to LinuxFeb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker as a High-Performance Enabler for ServerFeb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Storage https://t.co/EA0WF4rjW2Feb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.enterprisetech.com)Feb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2heFeb 10 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisetech.com | Docker as a High-Performance Enabler for Cloud StorageFeb 10 09:13
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Docker as a High-Performance Enabler for Server Storage...'Feb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://t.co/Dj19vmBuX7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 09:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker: “We have hired Natanael Copa, theFeb 10 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 awesome creator of Alpine Linux”Feb 10 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KVxVtuWhtS (www.pcworld.com)Feb 10 09:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2igFeb 10 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Is Docker ditching Ubuntu Linux? Confusion reigns | PCWorldFeb 10 09:19
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Firefox 46 Web Browser to Finally Bring...'Feb 10 09:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Second Rygel Media Server 0.30 Dev Release HasFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Improvements for Samsung TVsFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hkXq6fKARq (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2kvFeb 10 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Second Rygel Media Server 0.30 Dev Release Has Improvements for Samsung TVsFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release CandidateFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase https://t.co/8Bt3E0i43EFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2kwFeb 10 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release Candidate Phase - PhoronixFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arch Anywhere – An easy way to install a fullyFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 custom Arch Linux systemFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YYAZX9peHc (www.ostechnix.com)Feb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2l5Feb 10 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ostechnix.com | Arch Anywhere – An easy way to install a fully custom Arch Linux system | OSTechNixFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian-Based RebeccaBlackOS Wayland Live CDFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Gets the Enlightenment 0.20 DesktopFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yC0INCaUOu (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2l6Feb 10 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based RebeccaBlackOS Wayland Live CD Gets the Enlightenment 0.20 Desktop | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release CandidateFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase https://t.co/8gMabfKC0MFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2l7Feb 10 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release Candidate Phase | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OSFeb 10 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 adoption https://t.co/cBkn3tGcbfFeb 10 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2liFeb 10 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OS adoption | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SourceForge Loses DevShareFeb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZjaOBHchbG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2lkFeb 10 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SourceForge Loses DevShare | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turning Open Source into a Multicore StandardFeb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Bg090daaSB (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2llFeb 10 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Turning Open Source into a Multicore Standard | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware Live 0.5.1, 1.0 on Its WayFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IZIakbLEcS (ostatic.com)Feb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2ntFeb 10 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Slackware Live 0.5.1, 1.0 on Its WayFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Overview of Linux Desktop EnvironmentsFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sjqNpZXJju (it.toolbox.com)Feb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2nuFeb 10 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.toolbox.com | Overview of Linux Desktop EnviornmentsFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet Zorin OS 11 – Video Overview andFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Screenshot tours  https://t.co/mK7mUeu6ZGFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxscoop.com)Feb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2nvFeb 10 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | Meet Zorin OS 11 - Video Overview and Screenshot tours - Linux ScoopFeb 10 09:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026354Feb 10 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #internet has made people more dependent on or engaged to various entities than newspapers ever did. Can't swap things easily with 'cloud'.Feb 10 10:10
schestowitz"There’s more invasion of privacy, but FB and friends are basically like broadcast TV. Even the joindiaspora hub gives me the creeps. They control mental input in exactly the same way newspapers and broadcast did. It’s a little worse because people think of FB like a post service they can’t do without, and it both spies and customizes the propaganda flow as an injection in people’s ordinary conversations. The net result is much like Feb 10 10:10
schestowitzold media - the AP model man had 15 minutes a day for news, got whatever summary AP put out. FB model man will get about the same flow of thought crushing cliches, and bullshit."Feb 10 10:10
schestowitzyes, big problemFeb 10 10:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026830Feb 10 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/884701-the-linux-foundations-core-infrastructure-initiative-working-with-white-house-on-cybersecurity-national-action-plan/Feb 10 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/oi2ps ]Feb 10 10:13
schestowitz"With Microsoft in the Linux Foundation, I don’t think it’s my security they care about. It’s more likely their ability to violate me.'Feb 10 10:13
schestowitz> "As a result, it’s “inevitable” Russia will switch state networks fromFeb 10 10:32
schestowitz> Windows to an open-source system based on Linux, a move 22,000 municipalFeb 10 10:32
schestowitz> governments are prepared to make immediately"Feb 10 10:32
schestowitz> Feb 10 10:32
schestowitz> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-09/putin-s-new-internet-czar-joins-hunt-for-google-apple-taxesFeb 10 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bloomberg.com | Putin's New Internet Czar Wants Apple and Google to Pay More Taxes - Bloomberg Business [ http://ur1.ca/oi2rs ]Feb 10 10:32
schestowitz> Feb 10 10:32
schestowitz> We've heard this before.  Will it actually happen this time?  Keep inFeb 10 10:32
schestowitz> mind now GNU/Linux has NSA's systemdFeb 10 10:32
schestowitzsystemd is Red hat's. Red Hat is an NSA ally. But even bearing in mind the phoronix articles, I wouldn't leap into saying "NSA's systemd"Feb 10 10:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OSFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 adoption https://t.co/KWD6HDG9jf (www.cio.com)Feb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2sfFeb 10 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OS adoption | CIOFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Simple tips for making your Android phone moreFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 secure https://t.co/lt6A2o6PoO (bgr.com)Feb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2shFeb 10 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Android security tips and tricks: Google’s four recommendations | BGRFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines@SiriusCorp      Due to our Drupal work expanding hugely in theFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 UK Government space we're looking for moreFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Drupalists to join the Sirius team! contact us!Feb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2siFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "it’s “inevitable” #Russia will switch stateFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 networks fromFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows to an open-source system based onFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux" https://t.co/FWql54r0zmFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bloomberg.com)Feb 10 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/MW3wxmIOhaFeb 10 14:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 14:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi3oeFeb 10 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 10 14:29
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/697430603692666880Feb 10 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @schestowitz indoctrination, more like...Feb 10 14:48
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r_schestowitzMaybe stating this publicly will make them shy away, or maybe I'm too optimisticFeb 10 14:48
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MinceRhttp://fusion.net/interactive/210905/lalo-alcaraz-world-map-according-to-donald-trump/Feb 10 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fusion.net | A map of the world according to Donald Trump | Fusion [ http://ur1.ca/oi4rf ]Feb 10 17:57
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LinuxSocist/status/697354093614993409Feb 10 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxSocist: Windows 10 spies on you despite disabling tracking options or installing anti-spying app https://t.co/b5VMwcigKp @schestowitzFeb 10 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techworm.net | Windows 10 spies on you despite disabling tracking options or installing anti-spying app » TechWormFeb 10 20:43
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CapitanManuel1/status/697235179283189760Feb 10 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CapitanManuel1: De nada le ha servido la revolución a los cubanos.....El fracaso es total....nada sirve y nada funciona. #Cuba https://t.co/pIgxgaBAlvFeb 10 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Battistelli in #Cuba https://t.co/rxen2R1wmE #epoFeb 10 20:45
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/evernewecon/status/697200275350654976Feb 10 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@evernewecon: my prior: 100% real. any chance, Cambridge? (the nephew I'm asking.) https://t.co/6ZwPESwSOvFeb 10 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Reactions to #nsa calling/rebranding its cracking/offence "defence" https://t.co/NAgYcrGvmh https://t.co/kRYbUxjo1t https://t.co/EH14d7G87hFeb 10 20:45
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/697200323107000320Feb 10 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: Holy shit! I used to read these in the library when I didn't have a computer https://t.co/rhqkNX9NgiFeb 10 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "UK publishing house Usborne is giving out its iconic 1980s programming books as free downloads." https://t.co/rDYGJ3RRaIFeb 10 20:45
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/697198453726642176Feb 10 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Then what is the "in-house processor" good for? https://t.co/iAUl3Mab4JFeb 10 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @FrancisJeffrey7 Google won't compete on hardware...Feb 10 20:46
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/697197215077392385Feb 10 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz GOOD if its real competition with Intel. BAD if it's on a leash.Feb 10 20:46
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r_schestowitzMinceR: funny, sharedFeb 10 20:48
r_schestowitzall refer to statements he madeFeb 10 20:48
r_schestowitzKim K, Mexicans...Feb 10 20:48
r_schestowitzand his bankruptciesFeb 10 20:48
r_schestowitzso it's a good summary simplifying his brain damageFeb 10 20:49
r_schestowitzWatch http://trumpthemovie.com/watch/Feb 10 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trumpthemovie.com | Trump: What's the Deal?Watch the FilmFeb 10 20:49
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697468274322378752Feb 10 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @IPRsLaw @lessig technical independence of cyberspace? Freenet?Feb 10 21:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Using the Latest LinuxFeb 10 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LibreOffice 5.1 Officially Released withFeb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Redesigned User Interface, New FeaturesFeb 10 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: Manjaro-ARM Linux on the Raspberry PiFeb 10 21:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/StcVYNpTcnFeb 10 21:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why open source can save companies fromFeb 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 drowning in the data lakeFeb 10 21:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why open source can save companies from drowning in the data lake | Tux MachinesFeb 10 21:33
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cubexyzwow, there's talk of making windows stop working if there's no internet connectionFeb 10 21:50
cubexyzforced subscription modelFeb 10 21:50
cubexyzanyway, I figured it was coming. Adobe does that for CS6Feb 10 21:54
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/697532351933456385Feb 10 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@angrymofo: @schestowitz I can't think of a single reason why I would ever require a 'smart fridge' and I'm a tech guy.Feb 10 22:21
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/697536500657995776Feb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: When #UK secret service only recruited from Oxbridge: "#MI5 brings homosexuals in from cold" https://t.co/kQhnkWWUtz https://t.co/jPoVPQAv9iFeb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | So what's new about gay spies? | Voices | The IndependentFeb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: For those who are not aware yet, spies like to #blackmail people to become their assets/moles. They say, join us, play ball, or go to jail.Feb 10 22:22
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/maramala/status/697540988928045056Feb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maramala: Yet famous terrorist accounts & well-known troll personalities not only stay online, they get a Verified mark. https://t.co/jdgCNQE6CyFeb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: First they came for the "terrorists", then they came for the "trolls".. how long before I too will be considered/classified too provocative?Feb 10 22:22
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r_schestowitzcubexyz: just linked to your review in some placesFeb 10 22:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/StcVYNpTcnFeb 10 23:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vector Linux 7.1 Light https://t.co/jBI8K84oQcFeb 10 23:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.com | Notes on Linux: Vector Linux 7.1 LightFeb 10 23:03
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TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org) Members Choice AwardFeb 10 23:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE's new Linux distro: Terrible idea, orFeb 10 23:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Is Getting Its Fourth UpdateFeb 10 23:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical in Talks with Android OEM PartnersFeb 10 23:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical in Talks with Android OEM Partners for Ubuntu PhonesFeb 10 23:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nouveau Linux 4.5 vs. NVIDIA OpenGLFeb 10 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Performance: Open-Source Not Up To ParFeb 10 23:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical releases Snappy Ubuntu Core LinuxFeb 10 23:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Canonical releases Snappy Ubuntu Core Linux image for x86-based Intel NUC DE3815TYFeb 10 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Snappy Ubuntu Core Gets Support on Intel NUCFeb 10 23:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 15.12 (Capella) Gets Pacman 5 SupportFeb 10 23:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro 15.12 (Capella) Gets Pacman 5 SupportFeb 10 23:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications 16.04 Release ScheduleFeb 10 23:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Desktop: Good News and Bad NewsFeb 10 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Open Source Leads on the Desktop - DatamationFeb 10 23:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.5 Hotfix on Its Way to FixFeb 10 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 the Big Mir Issue on Ubuntu PhonesFeb 10 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.5 Hotfix on Its Way to Fix the Big Mir Issue on Ubuntu PhonesFeb 10 23:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications 16.04 Release ScheduleFeb 10 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Applications 16.04 Release Schedule | Tux MachinesFeb 10 23:23
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697562463022219264Feb 10 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz FFII famous stickerFeb 10 23:29
r_schestowitzyes, that's how I knowFeb 10 23:29
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697562585131065344Feb 10 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz I wanted to print them all and take a picture.Feb 10 23:29
r_schestowitzLook for a photo on the Internet of paper piles, see what number of papers is stated (maybe flat packed), post with captionFeb 10 23:30
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697562585131065344Feb 10 23:30
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/697563537896574976Feb 10 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz @retroDoomer @mashable @twitter so why are you still here? No alternative? Ah, welcome to the club?Feb 10 23:34
r_schestowitzI'm in joindiaspora, it spews out copies to twitterFeb 10 23:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Desktop: Good News and Bad NewsFeb 10 23:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Desktop: Good News and Bad News | Tux MachinesFeb 10 23:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.5 Hotfix on Its Way to FixFeb 10 23:35
TweetTuxMachines                 the Big Mir Issue on Ubuntu PhonesFeb 10 23:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vector Linux 7.1 Light https://t.co/OXr3ZJxW5YFeb 10 23:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2015 https://t.co/D2CRjdhClrFeb 10 23:36
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/697568303380738048Feb 10 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @jwildeboer @mashable @twitter I'm certain I joined Diaspora a while ago. Thoughts on 'ello?Feb 10 23:51
r_schestowitzDid you find me on there. Jan used to be quite active there but stopped.Feb 10 23:51
r_schestowitz*there?Feb 10 23:52
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7029223Feb 11 00:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prepare for #twitter to start deleting tweets and banning users for what politicians dub "hate speech", sometimes anti-migrant positions.Feb 11 00:01
r_schestowitz"woow"Feb 11 00:01
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/johnnysunshine/status/697582884761137152Feb 11 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnnysunshine: @schestowitz @rbanffy this industry has short memories ; we're at the "embrace" stage of embrace, extend, extinguishFeb 11 00:51
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cubexyzI don't think there's much danger of Microsoft absorbing Linux Feb 11 01:01
cubexyzwe got slackware, the BSDs, ChromeOS, even ReactOSFeb 11 01:02
cubexyzthe Russians might even be putting more effort into ReactOSFeb 11 01:02
MinceRredcrap will do it for themFeb 11 01:22
MinceRand then m$ will shoot them in the back with uefiFeb 11 01:22
MinceRor buy themFeb 11 01:22
cubexyzLinux is like a hydra Feb 11 01:23
MinceRhail hydra!Feb 11 01:25
cubexyz:)Feb 11 01:25
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/uefi.txtFeb 11 01:31
cubexyzI'm not sure what to recommend for non-UEFI motherboard beyond chromebook/chromeboxFeb 11 01:32
cubexyzI might just buy a chromebox and put crouton on itFeb 11 01:32
cubexyzif an OEM actually started shipping coreboot, I'd probably consider thatFeb 11 01:33
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TruthYoda/status/697599206270246912Feb 11 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TruthYoda: @schestowitz @EnVogueRogue You should use the TwitLonger website to post the tweet to solve that issue.Feb 11 01:54
r_schestowitza workaround onlyFeb 11 01:54
oiaohmcubexyz: really I find it annoying.  Amd announce in 2011 that all boards in design stages would supprot coreboot result there are a lot of AMD boards out there.   Issue is AMD cpus are running way to hot.Feb 11 01:55
MinceRput a cooler on it :>Feb 11 01:57
cubexyzone of the I3's is very low TDPFeb 11 01:58
MinceR(though that might be why we don't see a lot of amd laptops :/ )Feb 11 01:58
cubexyzmy chromebook doesn't even get warmFeb 11 01:59
cubexyzon the other hand, my oldish acer with AMD something heats up a lotFeb 11 01:59
oiaohmMinceR: hit it straight on.  Until AMD get there heat problem fixed what is mostly get production down nm they are not going to be that usable in laptops.  Even large servers it a worry.Feb 11 01:59
cubexyzif the cpu fan fails it's shutdown timeFeb 11 01:59
oiaohmPersonally I would love to buy AMD but I live in hot areas without air-conditioning so I must keep thermal down. Feb 11 02:01
oiaohmWorst room temp I have had is 47C.Feb 11 02:01
MinceRwhy no AC?Feb 11 02:01
oiaohmAC is 1 very high on the power consume.  2 if you need to go outside quickly you don't need to be suffering from thermal shock.Feb 11 02:03
oiaohm47C came from shipping containers placed in wrong location focusing the sun.Feb 11 02:04
oiaohmYes I was thinking room is getting hot.Feb 11 02:04
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012Feb 11 02:19
r_schestowitzstupid netsplits nowFeb 11 02:19
r_schestowitzlet's wait until they pass...Feb 11 02:19
r_schestowitz[02:16] <oiaohm> r_schestowitz: ext is little more complex.   Linux kernel developers keep on adding features to ext file system.Feb 11 02:19
r_schestowitz"I've had a 5.5tb raidz setup in my htpc running for at least 5 years now, since it was on early beta for linux, and it's chugging right along with no data loss, ever."Feb 11 02:20
r_schestowitz"Actually you can run ZFS with as little as 1GB, the majority of the feature will not be available and it's not recommended to do so though.'Feb 11 02:20
r_schestowitz"Good job misrepresenting my argument."Feb 11 02:20
r_schestowitz"Really? Most things the FSF hates on are superior to the end user than things they offer as alternatives. As for community, /r/outside is where you find those."Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitz"Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitz    shitty licenseFeb 11 02:21
r_schestowitzThat's a matter of opinion.Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitz    and a shitty community.Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitzWhy do you think that?Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitz    Besides comparing ZFS to NTFS is like comparing cancer to AIDSFeb 11 02:21
r_schestowitzIt's actually more like comparing goat cheese to cow cheese.Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitz"Feb 11 02:21
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r_schestowitz    NTFS character limitFeb 11 02:21
r_schestowitzYou mean the 255 by file/folder or the 32K for the path?Feb 11 02:21
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r_schestowitzThe one that normally gets us is actually the windows max_path limit but I've actually seen the NTFS limit hit once or twice in insanely deep and long folders.Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitzEDIT: it does bear pointing out no human named those, they were down to a powershell script epically misfiring. Author had it run on a loop, created and moved into a directory and didn't move back up at the end of the loop.Feb 11 02:21
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r_schestowitz"Then you're not hitting NTFS character limit but the old (still widely used even by MS) windows API character limit."Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitz"Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitz    If it wasn't them it would be somebody else.Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitzAgreed, but /u/knobbysideup said Microsoft and Apple set computing back "a few" (at least 3?) decades. Regardless of the fact that anyone could have made computing go mainstream, it was Microsoft and Apple that did it, and they didn't set computing back by 30 years in doing so.Feb 11 02:21
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r_schestowitz"Not really. I don't think you really grasp the magnitude of the retardation, that was induced in the computing field, during the two decades Microsoft were busy exercising their monopoly."Feb 11 02:21
r_schestowitz"Yeah but come on, they got a computer into every home and most any work desk.. allowing you to browse reddit while at work."Feb 11 02:21
cubexyzuh, I never wanted Microsoft anythingFeb 11 02:22
cubexyzI used Lattice C and Unix cc (Xenix derived from Unix v7)Feb 11 02:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Project Remote Dependency Solving Feb 11 02:26
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7029504Feb 11 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook already does P-C #censorship on subjects such as immigration https://41.media.tumblr.com/116ca2addeed489ac41aeab8cfe768c0/tumblr_nxyykzSgst1tduuewo1_1280.jpg #politics embedded in public companiesFeb 11 02:36
r_schestowitzhttps://41.media.tumblr.com/116ca2addeed489ac41aeab8cfe768c0/tumblr_nxyykzSgst1tduuewo1_1280.jpgFeb 11 02:36
r_schestowitzyes, from the miss...Feb 11 02:36
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7029593Feb 11 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Restores #Adblock Fast For Samsung's #Android Browser http://www.techtimes.com/articles/132304/20160210/google-restores-adblock-fast-for-samsungs-android-browser.htm public backlashFeb 11 02:37
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r_schestowitz"#CryptoAnarchism"Feb 11 02:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Prototype of Linux-powered microwave ovenFeb 11 02:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Prototype of Linux-powered microwave oven [LWN.net]Feb 11 02:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HTML, CSS and JavaScript on the Raspberry PiFeb 11 02:40
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cubexyzsome router attacks.. smurf attacks :-/Feb 11 03:00
cubexyzit's world-wide too I reckonFeb 11 03:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE Tumbleweed Users Get systemd 228, GCCFeb 11 03:07
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    5.3.1, Firefox 44.0, and New YaSTFeb 11 03:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Microsoft Continues to Use Software #PatentsFeb 11 03:07
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies ThatFeb 11 03:07
TweetTuxMachines @SteelersRule07  Use #Linux https://t.co/nIep6mKz2uFeb 11 03:07
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*TweetTuxMachines @RonPaul4Constit retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft Continues to Use Software #Patents to Extort/Blackmail...'Feb 11 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft | TechrightsFeb 11 03:07
cubexyzoiaohm, do you know of any way to defend against router attacks?Feb 11 03:38
cubexyzseems like my dlink is getting clobbered once a week Feb 11 03:38
oiaohmcubexyz: really is not defend.   I use wifi and adsl modem as two parts.   wifi router takes open source firmware so I can keep it upto date.Feb 11 03:41
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/697669635014008832Feb 11 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rbanffy: @antoniofonseca @johnnysunshine @schestowitz you know how the proverb "try to kill me once, shame on you; try to kill me twice, shame on me"Feb 11 09:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697680688280162304Feb 11 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Is Spain objecting to the up(c) because of the way the epo president is treating some Spanish nationals?Feb 11 09:03
schestowitzNo, because of language and other factors, will write about itFeb 11 09:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697681842598707200Feb 11 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz I doubt @ipkat is scared. Let's see how they cover the meeting of the administration council with the judges.Feb 11 09:04
schestowitzI just said, they don't cover these matters as frequently as beforeFeb 11 09:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697709306272223232Feb 11 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz HTC is paying Apple. Samsung has paid damages and Apple is seeking more. Plus, injunction requests...Feb 11 09:13
schestowitzDoes Apple uses its patents to force people to defect to Apple apps?Feb 11 09:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lumo release date set for April on PC, Mac andFeb 11 09:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurogamer.net | Lumo release date set for April on PC, Mac and Linux • Eurogamer.netFeb 11 09:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Classic Platformer Sequel N++ Is Coming To PCFeb 11 09:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.highdefdigest.com | 'N++' Headed to Steam for PC, Mac, & Linux | High-Def DigestFeb 11 09:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697668200427888640  https://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/697669635014008832Feb 11 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I understand your dislike of that revenue generation strategy, but they merely take advantage of broken system, stupid payers.Feb 11 09:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697710787050266624Feb 11 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz different storyFeb 11 09:18
schestowitzI find Microsoft'a approach a lot worse, and it goes beyond phonesFeb 11 09:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Has No Plans on Ditching Ubuntu inFeb 11 09:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) the original report wasFeb 11 09:18
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schestowitz*Microsoft'sFeb 11 09:19
schestowitzRemember what Microsoft did with Novell, for instance, as I hope you remember all the pertinent details of the dealFeb 11 09:19
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697713193674735616Feb 11 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz A lot worse depends on focus. Re. injunctions, Apple the bigger problem. I'd like more companies to defend themselves in court.Feb 11 09:28
schestowitzMicrosoft took Samsung to court and this is more or less or this new strategy started....Feb 11 09:28
schestowitzI can hypothetise @horaciog goes to companies that sell Android and says, look what we did to Samsung, just do as we tell youFeb 11 09:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697715789248532481Feb 11 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It's a complex issue since those companies have previously distributed MSFT software. Apple has different biz strategy.Feb 11 09:39
schestowitzSo because they used Windows before it's OK for MS & @horaciog to pressure them to still use Microsoft, using #swpats threats?Feb 11 09:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026510Feb 11 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Clueless #microsoft cannot sell desktops anymore (nosediving market), thinks it's 2009 all over again http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/08/remember_netbooks_windows_10_makes_them_good_again/Feb 11 09:43
schestowitz"If that’s true, how long can it last?"Feb 11 09:43
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schestowitzThey have a new strategy now, involving patents and concessions on patent feesFeb 11 09:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026205Feb 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dell Firmware Updating under Linux http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/b/techcenter/archive/2016/02/02/dell-firmware-updating-under-linux #dell #linuxFeb 11 09:43
schestowitz"All UEFI can “upgrade” their firmware without OS intervention. That’s worth avoiding."Feb 11 09:43
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697718705065762816   https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697718984800600064Feb 11 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz You did not just sat it was less frequent. You suggested it was because of threats of legal action. @IpkatFeb 11 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz But less frequent can be for many reasons, and I suggest that the coverage of that rather important meeting... @IpkatFeb 11 09:49
schestowitzGiven some time I could gather numbers to support my claim that articles about EPO, esp. negative articles, reduced in numberFeb 11 09:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697719084746727424Feb 11 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz ... Might give us a clue. @IpkatFeb 11 09:51
schestowitzThere are many other topics that could be covered, such as the trip to Cuba (got translations today)Feb 11 09:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697719911725006848Feb 11 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz I don't doubt there are less articles. I doubt @Ipkat is afraid.Feb 11 09:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HPE Introduces Linux Server for Data AnalyticsFeb 11 12:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source demonstrates the future of workFeb 11 12:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Putin's internet guru says 'nyet' to Windows,Feb 11 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Putin's internet guru says 'nyet' to Windows, 'da' to desktop Linux • The RegisterFeb 11 12:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-ready dev board beats BeagleBoard-X15 toFeb 11 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 the AM5728 https://t.co/hqI9Mp8KiKFeb 11 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linux-ready dev board beats BeagleBoard-X15 to the AM5728 ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 11 12:12
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XRevan86Never say "nyet" when you can say "n'et" %).Feb 11 12:13
schestowitznot yet ;-)Feb 11 12:17
schestowitzI once made a comical image of ZD NyetFeb 11 12:18
schestowitzto basically say, don't trust CBS-owned ZDNetFeb 11 12:18
schestowitzIt's still in some articles in techrightsFeb 11 12:18
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNetFeb 11 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/d50sx ]Feb 11 12:18
XRevan86> Firefox can't find techrights.org server.Feb 11 12:21
XRevan86oh come onFeb 11 12:21
schestowitzhmmm...Feb 11 12:21
schestowitzretryFeb 11 12:21
schestowitzor maybe I upset ValdFeb 11 12:21
schestowitz*VladFeb 11 12:21
XRevan86Now it worked…Feb 11 12:21
schestowitzOK, I saw such glitches beforeFeb 11 12:21
schestowitzAs long as it's not too frequent an issue, I won't panic... and it seems to relate to DNS or nameserver if anythingFeb 11 12:22
XRevan86schestowitz: It's just wierd.Feb 11 12:22
schestowitzor maybe varnish being weird, not sure...Feb 11 12:22
XRevan86Wait, this wiki article is on www.techrights.org <http://www.techrights.org>, and links go to techrights.orgFeb 11 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rightsFeb 11 12:23
XRevan86Maybe it is DNS.Feb 11 12:23
XRevan86(wiki loaded at once and then following linked resulted in an error)Feb 11 12:24
XRevan86schestowitz: What I initially wanted to say is that English tend to put "y"'s everywhere while pronouncing Russian words, and that just doesn't sound right.Feb 11 12:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mrjeremylcoope1/status/697760263399985152Feb 11 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mrjeremylcoope1: RT @openlyclassist: On most android phones it's not obvious how to remove the factory installed version, but you c… https://t.co/b3Sj4wyLA2Feb 11 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @openlyclassist Need to delete rather than disable (if there such a mode?)Feb 11 12:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/697761160393838592Feb 11 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz If they stopped using Google Apps & setup an #OpenSource communication platform on #OpenStack it would be even better.Feb 11 12:39
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schestowitzmeh, BS new page: https://opensource.com/resources/careers-open-source-2016Feb 11 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Careers in Open Source series | Opensource.comFeb 11 12:47
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker Has No Plans to Ditch Ubuntu in...'Feb 11 12:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Updates the All-Snap Snappy UbuntuFeb 11 12:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Images to Remove Misplaced SSH KeyFeb 11 12:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lW7q6zxPLC (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 12:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Updates the All-Snap Snappy Ubuntu Images to Remove Misplaced SSH KeyFeb 11 12:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker Has No Plans on Ditching Ubuntu in...'Feb 11 12:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Blackberry Priv review: Finally succumbs toFeb 11 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Android, and does well! https://t.co/lHG7pavtUNFeb 11 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (economictimes.indiatimes.com)Feb 11 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economictimes.indiatimes.com | Blackberry Priv review: Finally succumbs to Android, and does well! - The Economic TimesFeb 11 13:02
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*TweetTuxMachines @avidlygotbackup favourited 'BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live...'Feb 11 13:15
*TweetTuxMachines @avidlygotbackup favourited 'BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live...'Feb 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source in the enterprise bringsFeb 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines                 opportunities and challengesFeb 11 13:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source in the enterprise brings opportunities and challenges | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HMRC and FOSS https://t.co/Tc03juJIVEFeb 11 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HMRC and FOSS | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System to Get a Much SmallerFeb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines                 ISO https://t.co/i1eLA51bHpFeb 11 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System to Get a Much Smaller ISO | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2Feb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rIiManrDlJ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Researchers release open source code forFeb 11 13:17
TweetTuxMachines                 powerful image detection algorithmFeb 11 13:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/H0sXj9f0a4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 13:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oia6sFeb 11 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Researchers release open source code for powerful image detection algorithm | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Operating System to Get a Much Smaller...'Feb 11 13:17
schestowitz> #Wed Feb 10 19:57:05 PST 2016Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Dear bro,Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Here goes the requested work.Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Have a nice Thursday. Have a coffee on my name.Feb 11 13:43
schestowitzI'll ask my wife. She doesn't like it when I take caffeine, unless it's in tea...Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz>> http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/cuba/2016-01-22/suscribiran-oficinas-de-patentes-memorando-de-entendimiento/Feb 11 13:44
schestowitz> OK bro!Feb 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juventudrebelde.cu | Suscribirán oficinas de patentes memorando de entendimiento - Cuba - Juventud Rebelde - Diario de la juventud cubana [ http://ur1.ca/oi0gq ]Feb 11 13:44
schestowitz> Here it goes bro:Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> mep_ana_gomes_vs_epo_abusesFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> upc_politics_exposedFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> I'll work on your request after these.Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> I have ben working with Boris so hard, Thanks God he's picking up doing hisFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> homework, I just needed to sit down next to him and he did it. Hard work butFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> it's paying offFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> RegardsFeb 11 13:46
schestowitzI will start with the Spanish lang articles, as usual in the morning/afternoon-Feb 11 13:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi...'Feb 11 13:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 11/2/2016: LibreOffice 5.1, HMRC and FOSSFeb 11 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1P97RJ4ZYU (techrights.org)Feb 11 13:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/2/2016: LibreOffice 5.1, HMRC and FOSS | TechrightsFeb 11 13:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/teusink/status/697784535765938177Feb 11 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@teusink: @schestowitz @teusink @All4Privacy Is the message or social graph shared? What does the privacy policy states? (not read it tbh..)Feb 11 14:09
schestowitzSee what Twitter did in the case of WikileaksFeb 11 14:10
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_IndonesiaFeb 11 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of massacres in Indonesia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oiag4 ]Feb 11 14:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/teusink/status/697784911894282244Feb 11 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@teusink: @schestowitz @teusink @All4Privacy You know if it was court-ordered?Feb 11 14:20
schestowitzIt wasFeb 11 14:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SpeedwayFloozy/status/697788246005252099Feb 11 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpeedwayFloozy: @schestowitz Set up and run by a #sociopath wanting to make decisions for #all you expected less while working in his #free #content #mines?Feb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/dlHBLPtxbiFeb 11 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/aGmFkf6yUXFeb 11 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating SupportFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 with Help from Ubuntu DevFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oxx8a6LB29 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating Support with Help from Ubuntu Dev | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails installer is now in DebianFeb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/V7jERF2uSu (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 14:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails installer is now in Debian | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Certified SystemFeb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de RianchoFeb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/671r2Ghuv8 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oiaifFeb 11 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de Riancho | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/697790342217756672Feb 11 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: ...or because someone has paid for censoring them. https://t.co/GKabVwwEwUFeb 11 14:50
schestowitzPoliticians and countries that threaten to ban Twitter (and sometimes do), as well...Feb 11 14:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SpeedwayFloozy/status/697790885539540997Feb 11 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpeedwayFloozy: @schestowitz It's the 21st Century #Robberbaron mentality and the minions it molds ( #Andreessen )- #jumpship from #abusive #badtechFeb 11 14:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/697805776786743297Feb 11 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Maybe also corporate organizations and institutions to bust whistleblowers ...Feb 11 15:36
schestowitzWould love to see evidence of it, except Wikileaks-TwitterFeb 11 15:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/697806765824610308Feb 11 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz So far only circumstantial, I guess.Feb 11 15:49
*TweetTuxMachines @ItsTivey favourited 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/dlHBLPtxbi'Feb 11 16:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lumina Desktop Getting Ready for FreeBSD 11.0Feb 11 16:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lumina Desktop Getting Ready for FreeBSD 11.0 | Tux MachinesFeb 11 16:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026510Feb 11 16:22
schestowitz"Feb 11 16:22
schestowitzThe strategy always revolves around making their software look competitive. File systems, boot loaders, firmware, are all promoted to promote Windows. Their software patent extortion will try to push those things onto companies with the hope of forcing people back to Windows. Sooner or later the extortion game is going to end when other rich and powerful people get tired of paying fees for crap that does not work.Feb 11 16:22
schestowitzAndroid has pushed Windows off a cliff. Try and Microsoft might, people are not going back to Microsoft platforms. Vista failed miserably and people left. Now the niche users are being squeezed by the march to Vista X. The intentional destruction of older Microsoft software is going to waste trillions of dollars worth of medical equipment. They have no one else left to squeeze, even their partners are using gnu/linux to make PRISM work.Feb 11 16:22
schestowitz"Feb 11 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Clueless #microsoft cannot sell desktops anymore (nosediving market), thinks it's 2009 all over again http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/08/remember_netbooks_windows_10_makes_them_good_again/Feb 11 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Remember Netbooks? Windows 10 makes them good again! • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oi2om ]Feb 11 16:22
schestowitzSadly, Android too is being closed down in some  ways and public backlash keeps it honest. Google has just undone a ban on Samsung software that blocks ads in the browser. I saw an article about it today. Let's keep software something that users control, not something that controls the users (like DRM, TPM UEFI).Feb 11 16:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/697816905948794880Feb 11 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz https://t.co/XbPX2zz8M3Feb 11 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheHackersNews: A Comprehensive Guide.. eBook: "Securing & Optimizing #Linux: The Hacking Solution (v.3.0)" https://t.co/2KwVHTJQjv https://t.co/Ywm0DJ2HpKFeb 11 16:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/CBejv15vbmFeb 11 16:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 16:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 11 16:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/el2RS9rEUxFeb 11 16:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 11 16:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Free live-booting distro DVD with LU&D #162Feb 11 16:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/w5BwxTSLjd (www.linuxuser.co.uk) iFeb 11 16:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Free live-booting distro DVD with LU&D #162 | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 11 16:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux, IBM Share Bold Vision for HyperledgerFeb 11 16:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Project, a Blockchain Fabric for BusinessFeb 11 16:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fE2fUaiSVg (www.coindesk.com)Feb 11 16:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coindesk.com | Linux, IBM Share Bold Vision for Hyperledger Project, a Blockchain Fabric for Business - CoinDeskFeb 11 16:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     App: Download Manager for Samsung Z1 / Z3 isFeb 11 16:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Available in Tizen StoreFeb 11 16:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1S5onFNZkW (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 11 16:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | App: Download Manager for Samsung Z1 / Z3 is Available in Tizen Store - Tizen ExpertsFeb 11 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? Feb 11 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bdKawvPOz1Feb 11 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bristolwireless.net) no surpriseFeb 11 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uh0QkLYUv8 (techrights.org)Feb 11 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/W51b65eo4k (techrights.org)Feb 11 16:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bristolwireless.net | Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? | Bristol WirelessFeb 11 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - TechrightsFeb 11 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsFeb 11 16:48
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/697824226762366976Feb 11 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: I'm still here. #canaryinthecoalmine https://t.co/ykff8pgscoFeb 11 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: I have seen a riot called #riptwitter over #twitter planning to censor everyone (for profit/partners) but not deleting accounts b/c "trolls"Feb 11 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rackspace to Manage #RedHat #OpenStack CloudsFeb 11 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 On-PremiseFeb 11 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/r98MNTJKJc (www.cmswire.com)Feb 11 16:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cmswire.com | Rackspace to Manage Red Hat OpenStack Clouds On-PremiseFeb 11 16:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Three nginx Vulnerabilities Closed in UbuntuFeb 11 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 OSes https://t.co/Yora5PuaEvFeb 11 16:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Three nginx Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSesFeb 11 16:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The 32-bit microcontroller world is startingFeb 11 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 to open up to world Linux."Feb 11 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DuUUknqKMP (www.linux.com)Feb 11 16:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | ST Releases Free Linux IDE for 32-Bit MCUs | Linux.comFeb 11 16:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Certified SystemFeb 11 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de RianchoFeb 11 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BSeKCVfanp (www.linux.com)Feb 11 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de Riancho | Linux.comFeb 11 16:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Three nginx Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/Yora5PuaEv'Feb 11 16:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails installer is now in Debian LinuxFeb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GZ1I4z9cFL (bits.debian.org)Feb 11 16:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bits.debian.org/2016/02/tails-installer-in-debian.html )Feb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating SupportFeb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines                 with Help from Ubuntu DevFeb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LgmvNEWzQy (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 16:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating Support with Help from Ubuntu DevFeb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2Feb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c9E1pzwx0y (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 16:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2Feb 11 16:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/697825360822468608 Feb 11 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: I'm ahead of you. Warning: Eventually you'll go to Xmonad or GNUStep. Not a bad thing, of course... https://t.co/mLCsIbnQt0Feb 11 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is there any #kde based distro left that does not suck? It currently sucks up about half an hour/day (sitting and waiting). back to #openboxFeb 11 17:01
r_schestowitzGNUstep would add icons and menus, which I don't have in openboxFeb 11 17:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System to Get a Much SmallerFeb 11 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 ISO https://t.co/S9C1bzqnyjFeb 11 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 17:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System to Get a Much Smaller ISOFeb 11 17:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications 16.04 Suite for KDE Plasma 5.6Feb 11 17:34
TweetTuxMachines                 to Arrive on April 20, 2016Feb 11 17:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Applications 16.04 Suite for KDE Plasma 5.6 to Arrive on April 20, 2016Feb 11 17:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Radeon Gallium3D OpenGL Performance From FedoraFeb 11 17:34
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schestowitztessier: I think cache server might be down, checking...Feb 11 19:15
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tessierschestowitz: Ran out of memory. It's currently doing an fsck due to not having been rebooted in so long. Back up soon...Feb 11 19:36
schestowitztessier: cheers, no problemFeb 11 19:38
tessierWe're backFeb 11 19:43
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MinceRhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2447Feb 11 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | journal ip anonymization · Issue #2447 · systemd/systemd · GitHubFeb 11 22:14
MinceRnot surprisingFeb 11 22:15
schestowitzwhy not?Feb 11 22:18
schestowitzAny OS should have something like thatFeb 11 22:18
schestowitzoh, wait, I thought you were talking about an OS, not an 'init system'Feb 11 22:19
MinceRthe fascists including the nsa don't care, therefore ratcrap doesn't careFeb 11 22:20
MinceRand of course poettering is committed to taking over all functionality of an OS, but he isn't interested in doing any of it correctlyFeb 11 22:22
schestowitzmight get to it at the endFeb 11 22:28
schestowitzlike he did pulseaudioFeb 11 22:28
schestowitz[rant]Feb 11 22:28
schestowitzI suffered a lot from PAFeb 11 22:28
schestowitzAround 2008Feb 11 22:28
schestowitzonwards until around 2010Feb 11 22:28
schestowitzI sometimes had it take up A LOT of CPUFeb 11 22:28
schestowitzand sometimes it went defunct, so I had to restart sessions and rebootFeb 11 22:28
schestowitznot I forgot about itFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzit "just works"Feb 11 22:29
schestowitzand behaves OKFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzLP blames Ubuntu's packaging of itFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzbut I experienced issues also in MandrivaFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzI think kf5 is a mess before of systemd-related overhailFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzand other red hat crap like wayland, plymouth etc.Feb 11 22:29
schestowitzI went back to openbox todayFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzI still check out the updated KDE buildsFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzas I did for the past weekFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzbut it's still messyFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzSo I hope systemd - like PA - will >somehow< and some time will turn out to work OKFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzI saw systemd mentioned today in arch wikiFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzwhen looking up some feh tipsFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzso resistance is now futileFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzsystemd will take over everything, I just hope they'll clean up the messFeb 11 22:31
schestowitz[end rant]Feb 11 22:31
MinceReven PA doesn't work OKFeb 11 22:41
MinceRand if systemd takes over all of unix, we'll need another unixFeb 11 22:41
MinceRwe needed a unix when winblows fucked up our IT completelyFeb 11 22:41
MinceRcancerd and lendows do not actually fix any of thisFeb 11 22:41
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schestowitzWindows sucked for many different reasonsFeb 11 22:54
schestowitzand people like ourselves didn't just say, heck, it's too monolithic, hence we need changeFeb 11 22:54
schestowitzLots of reasons for dumping Windows that are not applicable to systemdFeb 11 22:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697870479026221057Feb 11 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike invalid under Alice?Feb 11 22:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/blue_spike/status/697872253950783489Feb 11 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blue_spike: @zoobab trolling again?Feb 11 22:56
schestowitzzoobab_: maybe they doFeb 11 22:56
schestowitzpatent trollingFeb 11 22:56
MinceRthere are lots of reasons for dumping winblows that are already applicable to lendowsFeb 11 22:56
MinceRand the cult is working on making moreFeb 11 22:56
MinceRas well as destroying the competitionFeb 11 22:56
MinceR(yet another thing in common with m$)Feb 11 22:56
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schestowitzcontext: https://twitter.com/blue_spike/status/697116658847055872Feb 11 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blue_spike: 100 followers & our 100th patent grant https://t.co/rEBUxDBGbuFeb 11 23:00
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schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-229-ReleasedFeb 11 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver Now Fully Supported - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/oicsf ]Feb 11 23:04
MinceRoohFeb 11 23:11
MinceRfinally i can have DNS security holes built right into pid1!Feb 11 23:12
MinceRthe only problem is, i never wanted that and i never asked for thatFeb 11 23:12
schestowitzwho asked for systemd?Feb 11 23:13
schestowitzredhat and intel among the implementersFeb 11 23:13
schestowitzbut was there demand from, say, IBM?Feb 11 23:13
MinceRwho would demand anything at ibm?Feb 11 23:14
MinceRis anyone still working there?Feb 11 23:14
schestowitzThey moves many jobs to IndiaFeb 11 23:17
schestowitzMaybe kept many staff this way, similar staff numbersFeb 11 23:18
schestowitzWhen you sell machines at $500,000 apiece you can afford many members of staffFeb 11 23:18
schestowitzlike system architects and overpriced staff to look after overhyped mainframes for businesses that make a lot more money than they actually deserve, like investment banks and hedge fundsFeb 11 23:19
MinceRbut if you sell off all your department, your staff goes with them :>Feb 11 23:20
MinceRs/ent/&s/Feb 11 23:20
schestowitzlenovo and others, yes...Feb 11 23:23
schestowitzmaybe we need to check wikipedia for historical staff dataFeb 11 23:23
schestowitzI know their market cap suffered a declines years ago, but I haven't been keeping up with share prices of tech companies except for red hat'sFeb 11 23:23
cubexyzI think we are witnessing the end of windows dominanceFeb 12 00:03
MinceRdepends on whether ratcrap's gambit to kill unix will succeedFeb 12 00:04
MinceRand whether m$'s and intel's gambit to kill general purpose computing will succeedFeb 12 00:04
schestowitzwhat about android with baseband OSes?Feb 12 00:05
schestowitzwe're not doing too well on phone freedom eitherFeb 12 00:05
schestowitzthough at least there's AOSP and FdroidFeb 12 00:05
schestowitzMicrosoft practically put the death knell upon CMFeb 12 00:05
schestowitzand I believe Androidx86 is far too Google hostileFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzeven hostile towards a project (recently) that 'dared' to fork FOSSFeb 12 00:06
MinceRphones always suckedFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzComplained about Google for antitrustFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzVery weird entities around AndroidFeb 12 00:06
MinceRandroid was a ray of hope which mostly failedFeb 12 00:06
MinceRnow we get lendows on phones, with tizen and othersFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzNow amazon is trying to hijack AndroudFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzAfter MS Android and MS FB failedFeb 12 00:06
MinceRlooks like phones will just keep on sucking foreverFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzand CM is hardly heard of anymoreFeb 12 00:07
schestowitz(better that way)Feb 12 00:07
MinceRm$ android failed already?Feb 12 00:07
MinceRi still keep hearing about CMFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzJolla got some fundingFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzbut it's not so FOSSyFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzTizen is Samsung onlyFeb 12 00:07
MinceRsailfish os is nonfree and it's lendows, iircFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzsome insider ranted about how Samsung just does "open" charades around itFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzUbuntu Phone is slow to pick upFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzFirefoxOS is dead.. for phones at leastFeb 12 00:08
MinceRand instead of phones getting more open and more general-purpose, locking down has apparently gained popularityFeb 12 00:08
schestowitzAs dead as Windows on phones Feb 12 00:08
schestowitz(seen one person use it the other day, on a 'Nokia')Feb 12 00:08
MinceRtry to run an OS of your choice on your phone and you get loss of hw support, loss of warranty and potential brickingFeb 12 00:08
schestowitzMinceR: and it gets worse around them, at the towerFeb 12 00:08
schestowitztoday I saw this:Feb 12 00:08
schestowitz!google android to find smart devices marshmallowFeb 12 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - How to get Android Marshmallow 6.0 update for your device ... | http://gadgetguideonline.com/android/android-marshmallow-guide/how-to-get-android-marshmallow-6-0-update-for-your-device/Feb 12 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Android 6.0 Marshmallow Update: Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony | Digital ... | http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-6-marshmallow-updated-phones/Feb 12 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - When will your phone get Android Marshmallow? - CNET | http://www.cnet.com/news/android-marshmallow-phones-update/Feb 12 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - How to get Android Marshmallow features on your phone right now ... | https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-get-android-marshmallow-features-on-your-phone-right-nowFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzwait, that's not itFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzit basically looks for 'IoT' in the vicinityFeb 12 00:09
MinceRand they believe that their idiotic image patching is a reasonable way to deliver security updatesFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzso obviously broadcasting to other devicesFeb 12 00:09
schestowitz"for your advantage" of course...Feb 12 00:09
MinceRthey're even pushing that to "PC"sFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzChrome OS can boot spontaneouslyFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzeven if you run GNU/Linux on  itFeb 12 00:09
MinceRwell, i guess it's easier for the establishment if computers have more security holesFeb 12 00:10
schestowitzbecause Google decides "it's time"Feb 12 00:10
MinceReven in developer mode?Feb 12 00:10
schestowitzRempote update you cannot control is a back doorFeb 12 00:10
schestowitzit's marketing as closing holeFeb 12 00:10
schestowitzbut it's a hole in its own rightFeb 12 00:10
schestowitzunless you have control over it and given consent with details of what's being changed (I upgraded Firefox to 44 a few hours ago)Feb 12 00:10
schestowitz(I need to do rianne's upgrade next)Feb 12 00:10
schestowitzMinceR: Chrome OS in developer mode, yes...Feb 12 00:11
schestowitzshe uses Ubuntu on top of Chrome OS, with croutonFeb 12 00:11
schestowitzsometimes it just dies without notice and bootsFeb 12 00:11
MinceRthat's fucked upFeb 12 00:12
MinceRmaybe it doesn't happen if you boot an alternate rootfs instead, thoughFeb 12 00:12
schestowitzthere's also no way to change sleep mode settingsFeb 12 00:12
schestowitzunless she created a google account to 'sign in' to Chrome OSFeb 12 00:12
schestowitzrather than start as a guest to boot up ubuntuFeb 12 00:12
cubexyzok, well I can safely say that FC1, AntiX, Q4OS and Vector 7.1 do not force rebootsFeb 12 00:12
schestowitzChrome OS requires you to set up an account on 'the Cloud' to change/configureFeb 12 00:12
MinceRhttp://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/rockchip/asus-chromebook-flip-c100pFeb 12 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archlinuxarm.org | Asus Chromebook Flip C100P | Arch Linux ARMFeb 12 00:13
MinceRbooting from external storage like that ^Feb 12 00:13
schestowitzprevious chromebook was dual-bootFeb 12 00:13
schestowitzso proper install, no subordinate OSFeb 12 00:13
schestowitzand it didn't work too well with all the hardware, but somehow remotely acceptableFeb 12 00:13
schestowitzChromebooks at least cost littleFeb 12 00:13
schestowitzand Microsoft doesn't get paid a dime, AFAIKFeb 12 00:14
cubexyzcan you put CrOS into dev mode, and put a full linux on?Feb 12 00:14
cubexyzhaven't looked at that yetFeb 12 00:14
schestowitzso it makes the statement, even to the stores and OEMs, that there's demand for non-WindowsFeb 12 00:14
schestowitzcubexyz: yesFeb 12 00:14
schestowitzit's not even hard to doFeb 12 00:14
schestowitzjust make sure the hardware is compatible and to what degreeFeb 12 00:14
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schestowitztegra had a hard time with network (freezes), sound, colours (BGR rather than RGB)Feb 12 00:15
schestowitzamong other few issuesFeb 12 00:15
schestowitzcubexyz: try Acer 15Feb 12 00:15
schestowitzworksFeb 12 00:15
MinceRwell, tegra sucksFeb 12 00:15
MinceRx86 would probably work betterFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzI recently recommended this to a friend who's a retired chefFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzbecause he asked me as "his expert"Feb 12 00:16
schestowitzMinceR: yes, it doesFeb 12 00:16
schestowitztegra is designed for locked down crapFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzwith blobsFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzworks well as long as you play by >their< rulesFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzcubexyz: should cost no more than 300 canadian dollarsFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzand it's a 15 inch screen, dual core processor, 2 gb of ram, which is more than enough unless you edit videos or somethingFeb 12 00:17
cubexyzI'm a computing minimalist anywayFeb 12 00:17
cubexyzdon't need mega-hardwareFeb 12 00:17
MinceRwhat if state of the art cryptography needs fast hardware?Feb 12 00:18
schestowitzCAD 300  should fit the bill anyhowFeb 12 00:18
schestowitzno MS taxFeb 12 00:18
MinceRor what if you need to view a "modern" website that by itself slows a modern supercomputer to a crawl?Feb 12 00:18
schestowitzMinceR: how often do you encrypt/decrypt?Feb 12 00:18
schestowitzexcept let's say in the browser?Feb 12 00:18
MinceRall the timeFeb 12 00:18
cubexyzMinceR, but it doesn't... for my normal day-to-day use including online banking even my P3 coppermine 866 mhz is fineFeb 12 00:18
schestowitzMinceR: noscriptFeb 12 00:18
MinceRssh, irc over ssl, etcFeb 12 00:18
schestowitzand adblock plusFeb 12 00:18
MinceRyeah, but it's fashionable to keep you from seeing _any_ content whatsoever if you block javascriptFeb 12 00:19
cubexyzmostly I use P3's :)Feb 12 00:19
schestowitzsites can be made very lean if you also pretend to be using a mobileFeb 12 00:19
schestowitzand they then serve minimalist stuff with all the 'beef', not the clutterFeb 12 00:19
MinceRbecause somehow web browsers can no longer be trusted to render text and images, you've got to reimplement the browser in javascriptFeb 12 00:19
schestowitznot many sitesFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzmost work ok without jsFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzI could name those that don'tFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzas I visit thousands of sites repeatedlyFeb 12 00:20
MinceRi keep bumping into themFeb 12 00:20
MinceRlike this maru os thingFeb 12 00:20
schestowitztech news sites, android, apple, MSFTFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzMaybe a dozen refuse to work with JSFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzfamously NYT and Forbes these daysFeb 12 00:20
schestowitz(among the 'big' ones)Feb 12 00:20
MinceRah yes, fucking forbesFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzdisgustingFeb 12 00:21
MinceRand some blogspot sitesFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzyes]Feb 12 00:21
schestowitzsome themesFeb 12 00:21
cubexyznoscript allows for fine tuningFeb 12 00:21
cubexyzyou bugger around with it you can make any site workFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzaseigo used that one, I tried to hint that he should change themeFeb 12 00:21
MinceRi don't need fine tuning, i need these assholes to start using html properlyFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzthey doFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzbut many link it to outside crapFeb 12 00:22
MinceRalso, i'm tired of clicking through all combinations of 9001 domains to run random, potentially malicious crap fromFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzlike FB JS, Twitter JS, Google JS, all sorts of trackers and ad networksFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzMinceR: go to phoronixFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzclick on noscriptFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzon any article, not just front pageFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzthen, do the same in tuxmachines and techrightsFeb 12 00:22
schestowitztuxmachines has only one 'sin'Feb 12 00:22
schestowitzit's google translate JSFeb 12 00:22
MinceRit's like people realize that software can have bugs, but javascript sandboxes are fucking flawlessFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzto make real-time in-place translations workFeb 12 00:22
MinceRnothing could possibly go wrong with running random shit downloaded from random places!Feb 12 00:23
schestowitzI hate JSFeb 12 00:23
schestowitzI can code in it and did before, but nothing essentialFeb 12 00:23
cubexyzif a site is too bloated I try lynx or dilloFeb 12 00:23
schestowitzit contributed to issues with some devices and browser, same issues as with flashFeb 12 00:23
cubexyzthat's good enough to get the 'meat'Feb 12 00:23
schestowitzso better teach people to do the same things at the back endFeb 12 00:23
MinceRoften it won't get you the 'meat'Feb 12 00:24
schestowitzcubexyz:  used dillo a while backFeb 12 00:24
MinceRbecause they decided if you don't use a typical bloated "modern" browser with js, css and all that bullshit, you don't count anymoreFeb 12 00:24
schestowitzon a laptop from 1999 and then on some modern computer, it's only useful if you visit old school sitesFeb 12 00:24
MinceRmaybe i get an empty page even without cssFeb 12 00:24
cubexyzgive us an exampleFeb 12 00:24
MinceRor just a few links from noscriptFeb 12 00:24
schestowitzit's like running netscape two decades after its rottingFeb 12 00:24
cubexyzschestowitz, laptop is harder yesFeb 12 00:25
MinceRcubexyz: http://maruos.com/#/Feb 12 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://maruos.com/#/ )Feb 12 00:25
schestowitzMinceR: without CSS it should worFeb 12 00:25
schestowitzif they do CSS rightFeb 12 00:25
cubexyzslow video is a killer for web browsersFeb 12 00:25
MinceRgives you the main menu items as plain textFeb 12 00:25
MinceRand that's itFeb 12 00:25
MinceRfucking uselessFeb 12 00:25
MinceRschestowitz: they don't do css rightFeb 12 00:25
MinceRhell, the w3c doesn't do anything right anymoreFeb 12 00:25
schestowitzit's funded by mpaaFeb 12 00:25
MinceRthey just rubberstamp anything their corporate overlords put in front of themFeb 12 00:26
schestowitz"practical"Feb 12 00:26
schestowitzover freedom, openness, standard, interopFeb 12 00:26
cubexyzok, for maru I had to use firefox with noscript offFeb 12 00:26
MinceRwe'll see how "practical" it is when they get their boxes owned through their fucking browsersFeb 12 00:26
schestowitz"hey, we gotta have all these hip widgets and videos" (apple, netflix)Feb 12 00:26
MinceRfor all his bullshitting around the "open web", tim berners-lee happily let them put their h.264 patents and even DRM right into the specFeb 12 00:26
schestowitzI could see my browser burn up 1GB of RAM opening a dozen tabs of 'news' sites if there's no NoScriptFeb 12 00:27
cubexyzsomeone needs to tell maru their site is lynx hostile :)Feb 12 00:27
schestowitzPages became massive programsFeb 12 00:27
schestowitzand each page is linked to about 30 domainsFeb 12 00:27
MinceRmight as well tell most websites thatFeb 12 00:27
schestowitzsometimes more, you have to check and see to actually believe itFeb 12 00:27
MinceRi guess this is how IT diesFeb 12 00:27
schestowitzthey don't count on people checking sources, counting cookies, checking XSSFeb 12 00:27
cubexyznothing really dies thoughFeb 12 00:28
schestowitzMinceR: timbl softened with ageFeb 12 00:28
cubexyzI belong to sites that fix c64's, amigas and PDP-11sFeb 12 00:28
MinceRyeah, so did rmsFeb 12 00:28
schestowitzhe used to brag about having no patents on his babyFeb 12 00:28
schestowitznow there are patents (codecs) and also DRMFeb 12 00:28
cubexyzI ported em to Unix v5 a few days ago :)Feb 12 00:28
schestowitzto nail the last one on the coffinFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzI want a new Web plaftrormFeb 12 00:29
MinceRso do iFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzI can transport the serverFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzDBs and all still work fine, fully FOSSFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzjust need a new user-facing layer to serve over, with new rulesFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzand decentralisedFeb 12 00:29
cubexyzbtw lynx works with forbesFeb 12 00:29
MinceRthe lazy way would be just moving to gopher :>Feb 12 00:29
MinceRbut i think we can do betterFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzless censorship, hardly any centralised surveillanceFeb 12 00:30
MinceRcubexyz: nice, i'll give it a tryFeb 12 00:30
schestowitzthere's not much work involved, the data and page content is already in placeFeb 12 00:30
cubexyzI think I know what my next blog post will be :)Feb 12 00:30
schestowitzcubexyz: go for it, I'll link to it, like I did your last oneFeb 12 00:30
schestowitzbased on what people say in twitter and diapora (of course) other people bemoan the same thingsFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzit's just that they don't put it in writingFeb 12 00:31
cubexyzeveryone should test their web sites with lynx as a baseline comparisonFeb 12 00:31
cubexyzthat includes router portalsFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzpeople don't use lynx because of the webFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzthe web denies lynxFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzrather than lynx denying the webFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzand that's where the Web is goingFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzjust as many ISVs deny LinuxFeb 12 00:32
MinceRwhere the web is going: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Dumpster-non.JPGFeb 12 00:32
schestowitzrather than Linux users denying themFeb 12 00:32
schestowitzsame for the gaming 'industry'Feb 12 00:32
schestowitzthe web won't lastFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzthe internet might last longerFeb 12 00:33
MinceRnahFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzTim B-L made it easier for alternatives to ariseFeb 12 00:33
MinceRif the web dies, the fascists will kill the internet immediatelyFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzThe Internet needs to be fixed topologicallyFeb 12 00:33
MinceRas it will only be used for services "turrists" useFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzIPv6 won't do anything to fix thatFeb 12 00:33
cubexyzI blame the web developers thenFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzthey actually have bits in it resevres for "Earth"Feb 12 00:33
cubexyzfor poor work that's not compatibleFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzSo ambitious that they think the Internet will occupy the whole of spaceFeb 12 00:34
schestowitzI guess then too Pentagon will be mother shipFeb 12 00:34
schestowitzso packets from Mars will have DNS propagated from somewhere in Virginia or whateverFeb 12 00:34
cubexyzhttp://www.cfar.umd.edu/~waksman/lynx/making.htmlFeb 12 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cfar.umd.edu | Making your web pages Lynx friendly [ http://ur1.ca/oid30 ]Feb 12 00:34
schestowitzSo that USS Enterprise or whatever will do its star wars spiel and play babysitter with the "Internet"Feb 12 00:35
schestowitzcubexyz: does the techrights blog look ok to you in lynxFeb 12 00:35
schestowitzthe drupal part (front page), blog, and wiki?Feb 12 00:35
schestowitzand what about tuxmachines? I think they should show up reasonably wellFeb 12 00:36
cubexyzyeah it works ok with lynxFeb 12 00:36
schestowitzincluding alt tagsFeb 12 00:36
schestowitzfor images to show up with proper description of what's in the photosFeb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines@SiriusCorp      I just pledged to help shape #ourfoodfuture.Feb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Join the conversation and sign up too!Feb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 @ThunderclapIt // @foodgovFeb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/w4rBDUPL3L (www.thunderclap.it)Feb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid39Feb 12 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thunderclap.it | Thunderclap: Help shape our food future!Feb 12 00:36
MinceRat this rate, there won't be a uss enterpriseFeb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Education and  Open AccessFeb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/adiEDaIYwj (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3aFeb 12 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Education and Open Access | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:36
MinceRthere will just be a smoldering, lifeless ruin where earth used to beFeb 12 00:36
schestowitzmany don't bother, but I like to think blind people would love me for taking the effort for invisible text ;'-)Feb 12 00:36
schestowitzMinceR: we'll have movies like MartianFeb 12 00:37
cubexyzif you like vi you'll be right at home with lynxFeb 12 00:37
schestowitzso that we can live the AmericanDream(r) and pretend we already colonies a planet, not just a moon for half an hour (the one that orbits us only)Feb 12 00:37
MinceRi use links2 occasionallyFeb 12 00:37
MinceRusually with -g but not always :>Feb 12 00:38
cubexyzit's not that hard to be lynx compatibleFeb 12 00:38
schestowitzit is....Feb 12 00:39
schestowitz....when you work for stupid companiesFeb 12 00:39
schestowitzthat think of their web site as a printer posterFeb 12 00:39
schestowitzold schoolers who don't 'get' the WebFeb 12 00:39
schestowitzI met people and companies like thatFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/pFNBRCvz2MFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3nFeb 12 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNSFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Resolver Now Fully SupportedFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/x5YUfweX8H (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3oFeb 12 00:39
schestowitzmy first web site for a client, the guy asked me to implement BACKGROUND MUSICFeb 12 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver Now Fully Supported | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:39
MinceR:>Feb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 tips for getting the most life out of yourFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Android battery https://t.co/0WfuD139HVFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:39
schestowitzand flash objects flying aroundFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3pFeb 12 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 tips for getting the most life out of your Android battery | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight PortableFeb 12 00:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Security) Linux OS Gets UpdatedFeb 12 00:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2x9VPOced9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3qFeb 12 00:40
schestowitzI ended up putting a MIDI file on the siteFeb 12 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security) Linux OS Gets Updated | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:40
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security)...'Feb 12 00:40
schestowitzwhich he later said became annoying to visitors. Well, duh, that's what I had told himFeb 12 00:40
cubexyzbtw I do have one problem with tuxmachinesFeb 12 00:40
cubexyzI can't register :)Feb 12 00:40
schestowitzrightFeb 12 00:40
schestowitzintentionalFeb 12 00:40
schestowitzbut temporaryFeb 12 00:41
schestowitzbecause of spam epidemicFeb 12 00:41
cubexyzok, I figured it was something like thatFeb 12 00:41
schestowitzwhich you personally alerted me to in the page, pharma spam taking over, occupying even the front page, potentially penalising the siteFeb 12 00:41
schestowitzI ask rianne sometimes whether we can re-enable registrationFeb 12 00:41
cubexyzI use manual registering on my forumFeb 12 00:41
cubexyzhttp://forum.cubeman.orgFeb 12 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.cubeman.org | Domain of the Cube Forum | Cube lovers returnsFeb 12 00:42
schestowitzbut there are still many attemtps to sign up by bots, maybe tens of thousands per monthFeb 12 00:42
schestowitz(last I checked)Feb 12 00:42
cubexyzclick on the question mark and you get instructions on how to registerFeb 12 00:42
schestowitztechrights allows registrationFeb 12 00:42
schestowitzand now has nearly  1 million 'users'Feb 12 00:42
schestowitzsuffice to say, it's a spamfestFeb 12 00:42
cubexyzhaFeb 12 00:42
schestowitzhard to actually find legit users at this stageFeb 12 00:42
schestowitzlots of CMSs become like that unless there are restrictions, captcha is often not enough to weed out the spamFeb 12 00:43
cubexyzmanual :)Feb 12 00:43
cubexyzget them to tell you why they want to registerFeb 12 00:43
schestowitzthe script kiddies just need to get their perl script or whatever working once, then rerunFeb 12 00:43
schestowitzeven with some high error rates they can occasionally sneak in their crapFeb 12 00:44
schestowitzbrute forceFeb 12 00:44
cubexyzyou must be able to form coherent sentences to join :)Feb 12 00:44
schestowitzand onces they sneak it they wank themselves in joy, increase the frequency (brute force), and your server is crippled with heavier loads, slower respons timesFeb 12 00:44
schestowitz*reponseFeb 12 00:44
schestowitzcubexyz: but then you have to review what they enteredFeb 12 00:45
cubexyzyesFeb 12 00:45
schestowitzRecently my techrights signup in drupal site got abusedFeb 12 00:45
schestowitzso much that my host wrote to meFeb 12 00:45
cubexyzI switched to manual years ago, no problemsFeb 12 00:45
schestowitzthey hammers on it thousands of timesFeb 12 00:45
schestowitzsending me like thousands of requests to join every hourFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzand overloading my host's mail serversFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzso I had to disable techrights registration to the drupal sideFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzsame in the wiki for years, due to lots of spamFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzso just wordpress is still open to them, for commentsFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzand gets a huge number of bogus registrationsFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzsame in php-nuke sites I have, albeit the frequency thereof dropped over the yearsFeb 12 00:47
schestowitzwhich basically comes to show what an utter mess the Web becameFeb 12 00:47
cubexyzI get around 40 spam registrations per day, not too badFeb 12 00:47
schestowitzmaking lots of components insecure by design for back doors partly the causeFeb 12 00:47
cubexyzautodelete once a weekFeb 12 00:47
schestowitzevolving along the lines of remote control by the entities that created the Internet in the first placeFeb 12 00:47
schestowitzcubexyz: you still need to reviewFeb 12 00:48
cubexyzI think the spamming is actually decreasingFeb 12 00:48
schestowitzthat can be an hour a monthFeb 12 00:48
schestowitzI used to spent hours per month reviewing spam, now it's a lot lessFeb 12 00:48
cubexyznot too many people into cube math :)Feb 12 00:48
cubexyzyes, it is a messFeb 12 00:52
cubexyzyou can imagine being on a P3 how much I hating autoplayFeb 12 00:56
cubexyzthat was a big deal turning that offFeb 12 00:56
cubexyzs/hating/hated/Feb 12 00:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver...'Feb 12 00:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/el2RS9rEUxFeb 12 01:56
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 01:56
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 12 01:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidf1Feb 12 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 12 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more)Feb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TBvtoHGY25 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidftFeb 12 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more) | Tux MachinesFeb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change theFeb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lzicIKiJHh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidfuFeb 12 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the Visibility of App Menus in Unity Panel | Tux MachinesFeb 12 01:59
cubexyzlwn.net is subscriber only?Feb 12 02:01
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7032750Feb 12 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Around the world new systems of control are taking hold. They are stifling global conversation" http://www.thestatesman.com/news/opinion/the-mute-button-called-self-censorship/122978.html sounds like #twitterFeb 12 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thestatesman.com | The Statesman: The mute button called self-censorshipFeb 12 02:06
schestowitztwitter not does the SJW spielFeb 12 02:06
schestowitzto attract shareholdersFeb 12 02:06
schestowitz!google saudi prince invests in twitterFeb 12 02:06
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Saudi prince's investment firm increases Twitter stake - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/07/saudi-princes-investment-stake-twitter-alwaleed-bin-talal-kingdom-holdingFeb 12 02:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed doubles his stake in Twitter - Fortune | http://fortune.com/2015/10/07/saudi-prince-twitter-stock/Feb 12 02:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Billionaire Saudi Prince Alwaleed Ups Stake In Twitter To 5% - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurengensler/2015/10/07/billionaire-saudi-prince-alwaleed-twitter/Feb 12 02:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Twitter: Saudi prince raises his stake to more than 5% - Oct. 7, 2015 | http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/07/technology/twitter-saudi-prince-stake/Feb 12 02:06
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MinceRthen it's time to leave twitterFeb 12 02:16
MinceRand see where it goes with lots of investors but no usersFeb 12 02:16
cubexyzhttp://spectrum.ieee.org/consumer-electronics/portable-devices/novena-a-laptop-with-no-secretsFeb 12 02:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets - IEEE SpectrumFeb 12 02:19
schestowitzhi hm76f76rj5dFeb 12 02:21
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the...'Feb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation hires HinkleFeb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oWe6EH7mnr (allcoinsnews.com)Feb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidl9Feb 12 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-allcoinsnews.com | The Linux Foundation Appoint New Members to Executive Leadership Team | allcoinsnews.comFeb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tempest, a good looking pirate ship combat gameFeb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines                 looks like it's coming to LinuxFeb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HAwMYuoU8O (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidlaFeb 12 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Tempest, a good looking pirate ship combat game looks like it's coming to Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tomb Raider really does look like it's comingFeb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines                 to Linux & SteamOS https://t.co/kB0XiKit3vFeb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 12 02:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidlbFeb 12 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Tomb Raider really does look like it's coming to Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 12 02:23
hm76f76rj5dhi schestowitz!Feb 12 02:24
hm76f76rj5dhi everyoneFeb 12 02:24
hm76f76rj5dI follow your posts in diaspora and Gnusocial, but just now realized there's this chat roomFeb 12 02:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Banks and the blockchain: How open will theyFeb 12 02:32
TweetTuxMachines                 be? https://t.co/LqpoHeU0sPFeb 12 02:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bizjournals.com)Feb 12 02:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidmwFeb 12 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizjournals.com | Firm58 predicts the end of R3CEV and the spread of open-source blockchains - New York Business JournalFeb 12 02:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KEYMILE chooses ubuntu gnu linuxFeb 12 02:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RrLp7i8D5c (www.prnewswire.com)Feb 12 02:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidmxFeb 12 02:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 tips for getting the most life out of yourFeb 12 02:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Android battery https://t.co/t0aakvNn07Feb 12 02:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 12 02:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidmzFeb 12 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | KEYMILE and Canonical Demo Industry's First Cloud-based App-enabled Open Source MSAN During... -- BARCELONA, Spain, February 11, 2016 /PRNewswire/ --Feb 12 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | 10 tips for getting the most life out of your Android battery - TechRepublicFeb 12 02:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight PortableFeb 12 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Security) Linux OS Gets UpdatedFeb 12 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DTBbnJzLr6 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 12 02:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidnxFeb 12 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security) Linux OS Gets UpdatedFeb 12 02:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more)Feb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/grJp8OePLs (permalink.gmane.org)Feb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidnzFeb 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org | GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more)Feb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change theFeb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BNMYeFgXMr (news.softpedia.com)Feb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oido0Feb 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 02:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/697970998713458688Feb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Jevgeni Kabanov and Sten Suitsev, fromFeb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 ZeroTurnaround, Talk about #JRebel for AndroidFeb 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Startup mythology is stronger in #India than anywhere else despite the fact that itsUSA proponents are vicious, racist assholesFeb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lxAMs5asrq (www.infoq.com)Feb 12 02:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oido3Feb 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Jevgeni Kabanov and Sten Suitsev, from ZeroTurnaround, Talk about JRebel for AndroidFeb 12 02:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the...'Feb 12 02:37
schestowitzthere's this mythology in other countries, and in some it actually works, surprisinglyFeb 12 02:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security)...'Feb 12 02:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked!Feb 12 02:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/SIGismFLKL (www.linuxjournal.com)Feb 12 02:40
TweetTuxMachines                 playing classic #games on #gnu #linux thanks toFeb 12 02:40
TweetTuxMachines                 key projects/codeFeb 12 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! | Linux JournalFeb 12 02:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidouFeb 12 02:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/697973134046203904Feb 12 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz It "might" even work in #India but not until they stop idolising SV. pmarca's offensive stupidity might help everyone long termFeb 12 02:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/697974526798393344Feb 12 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: .@schestowitz They accidentally let it slip out that technology monopoly is indeed neocolonialism. #oops #facebook #pmarcaFeb 12 02:45
cubexyznon UEFI choices so far:Feb 12 02:49
cubexyzchromebook, chromebox, Novena, Pitop, older computersFeb 12 02:50
cubexyzanything with coreboot actuallyFeb 12 02:50
cubexyzand maybe the Talos Secure WorkstationFeb 12 02:54
cubexyzTalos is expensive though, over $3KFeb 12 02:55
schestowitz"Feb 12 02:57
schestowitzECHRFeb 12 02:57
schestowitzSo, Assange had sought to bring the case before the European Court of Human Rights, but it had been rejected.Feb 12 02:57
schestowitzIf this is true, the tweet from the Wikileaks account is false, and the operator of the Wikleaks account would have known it was false.Feb 12 02:57
schestowitzAnd what do we call a deliberate falsehood?Feb 12 02:57
schestowitzRemember “Assange’s Law”:  every statement of law promoted by Assange will turn out on scrutiny to be false or misleading.Feb 12 02:57
schestowitz"Feb 12 02:57
schestowitzhttp://jackofkent.com/2016/02/in-which-wikileaks-is-caught-out-publishing-a-deliberate-falsehood/Feb 12 02:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jackofkent.com | In which Wikileaks is caught out publishing a deliberate falsehood – Jack of Kent blogFeb 12 02:57
cubexyzoh forgot lemote :)Feb 12 03:02
cubexyzchromebook, chromebox, Novena, Pitop, older computers and lemoteFeb 12 03:02
cubexyzthere's you list of non-UEFI computersFeb 12 03:03
cubexyzmore data on novena:Feb 12 03:04
cubexyzhttp://www.kosagi.com/w/index.php?title=Novena_Main_PageFeb 12 03:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kosagi.com | Novena Main Page - Studio Kousagi Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/c3aat ]Feb 12 03:04
cubexyznote the datasheets are availableFeb 12 03:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked!Feb 12 03:07
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/SIGismFLKL (www.linuxjournal.com)Feb 12 03:07
TweetTuxMachines @CowboyGamesBot  playing classic #games on #gnu #linux thanks toFeb 12 03:07
TweetTuxMachines                 key projects/codeFeb 12 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! | Linux JournalFeb 12 03:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Begins Landing Apollolake Support WithinFeb 12 03:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Coreboot https://t.co/GsNJVwqRGGFeb 12 03:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 12 03:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oiduvFeb 12 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Begins Landing Apollolake Support Within Coreboot - PhoronixFeb 12 03:07
MinceRis there a clamshell-style laptop case for novena?Feb 12 03:09
MinceRone that's still available, that isFeb 12 03:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for theFeb 12 03:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Infamous Incoming-Call Hang IssueFeb 12 03:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a4byJDXphm (news.softpedia.com)Feb 12 03:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidvjFeb 12 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for the Infamous Incoming-Call Hang IssueFeb 12 03:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNSFeb 12 03:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Resolver Now Fully SupportedFeb 12 03:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/s3zIBdlEzm (www.phoronix.com)Feb 12 03:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0854xFBa3d (news.softpedia.com)Feb 12 03:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidvkFeb 12 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver Now Fully Supported - PhoronixFeb 12 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lennart Poettering Announces the Release of systemd 229 for all Linux OSesFeb 12 03:09
cubexyzthe novena prototype was clamshell, not sure about the production versionFeb 12 03:10
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver...'Feb 12 03:10
cubexyzthe screen opens the wrong way it seemsFeb 12 03:11
cubexyzopposite of a normal laptopFeb 12 03:11
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for...'Feb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Facebook-squishing Indian regulator's nextFeb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 move: Open source code https://t.co/IY0LIK7cjfFeb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidw4Feb 12 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Facebook-squishing Indian regulator's next move: Open source code | Tux MachinesFeb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Hirings and InitiativesFeb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NwGPjUlVvS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidw5Feb 12 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Hirings and Initiatives | Tux MachinesFeb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for theFeb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Infamous Incoming-Call Hang IssueFeb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5mrPShbEeW (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidw6Feb 12 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phones Will Soon Get a Fix for the Infamous Incoming-Call Hang Issue | Tux MachinesFeb 12 03:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases #Feb 12 03:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Snapcraft 2.2 Snappy Creator Tool for UbuntuFeb 12 03:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy Core https://t.co/B8BkKYoz3YFeb 12 03:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 12 03:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidyjFeb 12 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.2 Snappy Creator Tool for Ubuntu Snappy CoreFeb 12 03:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Maru is becoming an open source project (useFeb 12 03:23
TweetTuxMachines                 your Android phone as a Linux desktop)Feb 12 03:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YF427hJtz9 (liliputing.com)Feb 12 03:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidykFeb 12 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | Maru is becoming an open source project (use your Android phone as a Linux desktop) - LiliputingFeb 12 03:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Maru is becoming an open source project (useFeb 12 03:24
TweetTuxMachines                 your Android phone as a Linux desktop)Feb 12 03:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MgcUUgKI9Y (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 03:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidylFeb 12 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Maru is becoming an open source project (use your Android phone as a Linux desktop) | Tux MachinesFeb 12 03:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases # Snapcraft 2.2 Snappy Creator Tool...'Feb 12 03:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/VernsCave/status/698006731436089345Feb 12 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@VernsCave: Only thing missing is a gun to the head https://t.co/eoDEvnb8O7Feb 12 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #TTIP: A locked room, no internet access, two hours, 300 pages and lots of typos https://t.co/mVNieniVCP colluding against societyFeb 12 09:14
*TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! https://t.co/SIGismFLKL playing classic #games...'Feb 12 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! | Linux JournalFeb 12 09:14
schestowitzzoobab_: https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698064350536409088Feb 12 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike not really. More spam for software developers. When does it stop?Feb 12 09:25
schestowitz"@blue_spike not really. More spam for software developers. When does it stop?"Feb 12 09:25
schestowitzThey tried to call you trollFeb 12 09:25
schestowitzand it's them who areFeb 12 09:26
*TweetTuxMachines @TwimarMarwen followed @tuxmachinesFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change theFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        https://t.co/BNMYeFgXMr (news.softpedia.com)Feb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oif7hFeb 12 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Many" Android OEMs look set to release UbuntuFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines                 devices this year https://t.co/VNYKKUO15lFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.neowin.net)Feb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oif7iFeb 12 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | "Many" Android OEMs look set to release Ubuntu devices this yearFeb 12 09:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/698076987126976513Feb 12 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz What hypocrisy. 🙄😏 Political Corruption is Deviant Behaviour; and is discussed very well here... https://t.co/BRe2itT99OFeb 12 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> hubpages.com | Political corruption as deviant behaviorFeb 12 09:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/698077557560750080Feb 12 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Secrecy, evasion, denial and outright lies to avoid responsibility and accountability .../2 https://t.co/jF0bdNOuyQFeb 12 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Secrecy, evasion, denial and outright lies to avoid responsibility and accountability .../2 https://t.co/jF0bdNOuyQFeb 12 09:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/698077918660931584Feb 12 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz .../2 are core signs of political deviancy (and certain Presidential candidates) - but are NOT characteristic of Bernie SandersFeb 12 09:40
XRevan86What's political deviancy?Feb 12 09:40
schestowitzgood questionFeb 12 09:42
schestowitzI'm not too sure eitherFeb 12 09:42
schestowitzBut that's what Bezos' washpost accused Sanders ofFeb 12 09:42
schestowitzRemember that Sanders declared intent to go after like tax evaders like Bezos, who uses his 'news' paper, Washington Post, to attack SandersFeb 12 09:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Many" Android OEMs look set to release UbuntuFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 devices this year https://t.co/KlTliMxWVQFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oif8zFeb 12 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | "Many" Android OEMs look set to release Ubuntu devices this year | Tux MachinesFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Some Fresh #Radeon EXA/GLAMOR 2D AccelerationFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Benchmarks https://t.co/T6vIwc5lL1Feb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oif90Feb 12 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Some Fresh Radeon EXA/GLAMOR 2D Acceleration Benchmarks - PhoronixFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi is the new target to trigger TizenFeb 12 09:50
TweetTuxMachines                 adoption rate https://t.co/NYG2Caqdh2Feb 12 09:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 12 09:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oif91Feb 12 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Raspberry Pi is the new target to trigger Tizen adoption rate - Tizen ExpertsFeb 12 09:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026820Feb 12 09:54
schestowitzhttp://www.infoworld.com/article/3032120/open-source-tools/vcs-who-miss-the-point-of-open-source-shouldnt-fund-it.htmlFeb 12 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Money In Open-Source Software http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/09/the-money-in-open-source-software/ #freeswFeb 12 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | The Money In Open-Source Software | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/oi2pq ]Feb 12 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | VCs who miss the point of open source shouldn't fund it | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oif9n ]Feb 12 09:54
schestowitz"Ah yeah, this response. I’m was starting to get worried about the authors until I read, “Intel.” The errors are not an accident, much if not all of Intel is on the wrong side of software freedom."Feb 12 09:54
schestowitzOf couse, though nvidia is worse in some aspectsFeb 12 09:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/marianico123/status/698083240234635265   https://twitter.com/marianico123/status/698083483781095424Feb 12 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marianico123: @JuanIgnacioCre1 https://t.co/icdUwftbPD este artículo que habla sobre españaFeb 12 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | New EPO Protests Amid Nervous Breakdowns of Spanish EPO Employee (After Institutional Bullying by Battistelli’s Goons), Spain Rejects the Unitary Patent (UPC) | TechrightsFeb 12 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marianico123: @eddyquemas https://t.co/icdUwftbPD lee este artículo compiFeb 12 10:12
schestowitzold:Feb 12 10:14
schestowitz"most of those fragments came from a Chinese anti-satellite test thatFeb 12 10:14
schestowitztargeted the Feng Yun-1C weather satellite in 2007 which created moreFeb 12 10:14
schestowitzthan 3,300 pieces of debris."Feb 12 10:14
schestowitzhttp://globalnews.ca/news/2453752/space-debris-how-dangerous-is-it-to-people-on-earth/Feb 12 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalnews.ca | Space debris: How dangerous is it to people on Earth? | Globalnews.ca [ http://ur1.ca/oifc7 ]Feb 12 10:14
schestowitzKessler SyndromeFeb 12 10:14
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schestowitzhttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/02/11/compare-mike-whitneys-truthful-account-of-syria-with-the-disinformation-published-by-the-washington-post/Feb 12 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.paulcraigroberts.org | Compare Mike Whitney’s Truthful Account Of Syria With The Disinformation Published By The Washington Post - PaulCraigRoberts.org [ http://ur1.ca/oiffa ]Feb 12 10:43
schestowitzMinceR: your take?Feb 12 10:43
schestowitz"There is no such thing as “the Syrian opposition.” The “opposition” consists almost entirely of the Washington-backed ISIS, which Washington sent to Syria to topple the government when Russia blocked the neoconized Obama regime from its plan to invade Syria. Washington, the presstitute media and various bought-and-paid-for “experts” pretend that ISIS is not really ISIS but a “democratic Syrian opposition.” Only an utter foolFeb 12 10:44
schestowitzcould believe this fantasy lie."Feb 12 10:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Back in 2010, Putin put into (slow)motion aFeb 12 10:51
TweetTuxMachines                 move to GNU/Linux." https://t.co/rImjHt5Sc1Feb 12 10:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (mrpogson.com)Feb 12 10:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifg8Feb 12 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Russia Going To GNU/Linux Late Rather Than Never | Robert PogsonFeb 12 10:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I’ve created a new runtime based on the latestFeb 12 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 unstable gnome" https://t.co/uE9OhHV3AoFeb 12 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (blogs.gnome.org)Feb 12 10:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifg9Feb 12 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2016/02/11/testing-unstable-gnome-using-xdg-app/ )Feb 12 10:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Moderate reviews in GNOME SoftwareFeb 12 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JvwWPdpC3A (blogs.gnome.org) "itFeb 12 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 does make reviewing comments easy."Feb 12 10:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifgaFeb 12 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2016/02/11/moderate-reviews-in-gnome-software/ )Feb 12 10:52
MinceRschestowitz: sounds like putin apologismFeb 12 11:02
MinceRthough i suspect there's no force for democracy in syriaFeb 12 11:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation's big plan to speed upFeb 12 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 storage, networking https://t.co/niv94xfHNkFeb 12 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.infoworld.com) https://t.co/FGzCKLXhKOFeb 12 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | The Linux Foundation's big plan to speed up storage, networking | InfoWorldFeb 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.enterprisetech.com)Feb 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifjnFeb 12 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisetech.com | Open Source Effort Targets Faster Nets, StorageFeb 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Endless joined GNOME Advisory BoardFeb 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Hc7iMPKwZk (feaneron.com)Feb 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifjoFeb 12 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | Endless joined GNOME Advisory Board | Georges StavracasFeb 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #BattlEye for Linux support, good news forFeb 12 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #Arma3 tooFeb 12 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/StqKmyRbTL (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 12 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HlD3uHi7he (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 12 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxFeb 12 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | ARK: Survival Evolved devs throwing money at BattlEye for Linux support, good news for Arma 3 too | GamingOnLinuxFeb 12 11:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifjzFeb 12 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | BattlEye anti-cheat now supports Linux, already live in ARK: Survival Evolved | GamingOnLinuxFeb 12 11:21
MinceRhttp://fossbytes.com/apple-watch-users-complain-apple-watch-is-burning-our-skin/Feb 12 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Apple Watch Users Complain: “Apple Watch is Burning Our Skin” [ http://ur1.ca/oiflj ]Feb 12 11:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 12/2/2016: Russian's Government WithFeb 12 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux, India's Wants FOSSFeb 12 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pwfTstc84r (techrights.org)Feb 12 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifltFeb 12 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/2/2016: Russian’s Government With GNU/Linux, India’s Wants FOSS | TechrightsFeb 12 11:41
cubexyzhave you heard that microsoft will remove the control panel?Feb 12 12:16
cubexyzmay as well, since users have no control anywaysFeb 12 12:16
MinceR:>Feb 12 12:21
MinceRthat would be more honest than what crApple doesFeb 12 12:21
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 12/2/2016: Russian's Government With GNU/Linux, India's Wants...'Feb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With AndroidFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (Linux), More Layoffs ReportedFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HzTbNur97T (techrights.org)Feb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifpmFeb 12 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With Android (Linux), More Layoffs Reported | TechrightsFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/4z7zAkLVa8Feb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifpnFeb 12 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Share your love for free softwareFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8qjzSqHTPh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifpoFeb 12 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Share your love for free software | Tux MachinesFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync withFeb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian, Without Ubuntu Specific PatchesFeb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jet88Rl0rR (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifppFeb 12 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync with Debian, Without Ubuntu Specific Patches | Tux MachinesFeb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives for Linux, Windows, andFeb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Mac OS X https://t.co/Hoseb4wbGIFeb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oifpqFeb 12 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives for Linux, Windows, and Mac OS X | Tux MachinesFeb 12 12:22
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/wZ64Kv5Feb 12 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Common Sense - ImgurFeb 12 12:49
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cubexyzneurowhat?Feb 12 12:50
MinceR:)Feb 12 12:53
XRevan86cubexyz: People with alternative ways of thinking.Feb 12 12:59
cubexyzthat sounds like almost everybodyFeb 12 13:00
XRevan86cubexyz: Very alternative.Feb 12 13:00
cubexyzok :)Feb 12 13:00
cubexyzcan you give an example?Feb 12 13:01
XRevan86cubexyz: Schizophrenia should doFeb 12 13:01
XRevan86cubexyz: I suspect that guy made those terms up, but I'm pretty sure he meant all sorts of mental illnesses.Feb 12 13:02
cubexyzno, I think I've heard it used on tvFeb 12 13:02
cubexyzcould be new-ish Feb 12 13:02
XRevan86cubexyz: Great Maker.Feb 12 13:03
cubexyzjust google "neuroatypical" and there's tons of hitsFeb 12 13:03
cubexyzI haven't heard it before 2016 at any rateFeb 12 13:04
XRevan86How twisted can mainstream "tolerance" be?Feb 12 13:04
MinceR140311 < XRevan86> cubexyz: Great Maker.Feb 12 13:06
MinceRShai-Hulud?Feb 12 13:06
XRevan86MinceR: Babylon 5Feb 12 13:06
MinceRah, a memetic epidemicFeb 12 13:07
XRevan86MinceR: Huh?Feb 12 13:07
MinceRreligionFeb 12 13:08
XRevan86MinceR: http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Great_MakerFeb 12 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-babylon5.wikia.com | Great Maker - The Babylon Project - WikiaFeb 12 13:10
XRevan86MinceR: Religion from a TV series, yes.Feb 12 13:11
XRevan86> Wikipedia: Common sense is a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things, which is shared by ("common to") nearly all people and can reasonably be expected of nearly all people without any need for debateFeb 12 13:14
XRevan86apparently there's a need for debate about literally everythingFeb 12 13:15
XRevan86What about things sense of which are defined by that humanity in general and all (neurotypical %)) humans want?Feb 12 13:20
XRevan86Like keeping climate stable. It might not make sense from a future life form perspective that will see humans as some sorts of dinosaurs.Feb 12 13:21
XRevan86And if they are superior, then from a evolution perspective as wellFeb 12 13:21
XRevan86will be*Feb 12 13:22
cubexyzdinos just had very bad luckFeb 12 13:22
XRevan86It's human population that just wants to live on and future generations of humans to live on.Feb 12 13:22
XRevan86in better conditions than nowFeb 12 13:22
XRevan86cubexyz: Yes, but it doesn't really matter for future species who killed themselves and who didn't survive a meteorite.Feb 12 13:24
XRevan86Climate changed and dinos didn't survive that.Feb 12 13:24
XRevan86So, my point: common human sense says that pollution is bad.Feb 12 13:25
cubexyzyou mean machine life?Feb 12 13:26
XRevan86If common sense doesn't matter, then immidiate profits might even be better argumentally covered than solving global problems.Feb 12 13:26
cubexyzseems a bit dubiousFeb 12 13:26
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, I meant that some species will survive and adapt.Feb 12 13:27
cubexyzok, like insects could survive and humans die outFeb 12 13:27
XRevan86and become more advanced and powerful, and maybe even start being sentient (but probably not that).Feb 12 13:27
cubexyzmuch more probableFeb 12 13:27
XRevan86Sentience doesn't make much sense from evolution point of view.Feb 12 13:28
XRevan86He-he, who knows, maybe best course of action for the government is to drug every single human to stimulate happiness.Feb 12 13:30
cubexyzexcept almost all life has it to some degree :)Feb 12 13:30
XRevan86Even neurotypical human would say that's a terrible idea but will he have any real arguments except for vague meaningless of life?Feb 12 13:31
cubexyzwe are just a lot better at manipulating our environmentFeb 12 13:31
cubexyzand better at passing information from generation to generationFeb 12 13:31
XRevan86cubexyz: Humans are smart enough to manipulate environment.Feb 12 13:32
cubexyzevery animal does it thoughFeb 12 13:32
cubexyzbirds build nests, beaver builds damFeb 12 13:32
XRevan86cubexyz: Usually definition of sentience is being as smart as humans are.Feb 12 13:32
XRevan86cubexyz: It's instincts, not the same thing.Feb 12 13:32
XRevan86cubexyz: It's like comparing an AI and build_a_nest.soFeb 12 13:33
cubexyza baby beaver mimicks it's parents and learns from themFeb 12 13:33
cubexyzit isn't born with dam-building capabilityFeb 12 13:33
XRevan86cubexyz: That's better :)Feb 12 13:33
XRevan86cubexyz: Pity all those almost-as-smart-as-humans animals will die with humans.Feb 12 13:35
cubexyzsquirrels can problem solveFeb 12 13:35
cubexyzI've seen them do itFeb 12 13:35
cubexyzI doubt we could botch up stuff enough to kill all lifeFeb 12 13:36
cubexyzwe can't kill all mosquitoesFeb 12 13:36
XRevan86cubexyz: Mosquitoes are very adapting.Feb 12 13:36
cubexyzbut mosquitoes can kill all humans eitherFeb 12 13:36
cubexyzcan't ratherFeb 12 13:37
XRevan86cubexyz: Humans will botch until most of us will die.Feb 12 13:37
XRevan86are dead*Feb 12 13:37
XRevan86cubexyz: And humans are pretty good at survival.Feb 12 13:37
cubexyzhow do you envision that happening?Feb 12 13:37
XRevan86probably better than squirrelsFeb 12 13:37
cubexyzover population -> war ?Feb 12 13:38
cubexyzseems the most likelyFeb 12 13:38
XRevan86cubexyz: I was thinking about continuing pollution and ehancing sterilisation of houses.Feb 12 13:38
cubexyzon the other hand, cave men survived the last ice ageFeb 12 13:38
XRevan86like vacuum doors, advanced water filtersFeb 12 13:39
XRevan86Process will be slow enough for humans not to notice vacuum door is not just a goodie against city dust but an essential against toxic atmosphere.Feb 12 13:40
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, ice age was cold.Feb 12 13:42
XRevan86cubexyz: I think Future is tougher.Feb 12 13:43
XRevan86future will be tougher*Feb 12 13:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to run Windows programs on Linux withFeb 12 13:43
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XRevan86cubexyz: And I didn't even include war into the equation.Feb 12 13:44
XRevan86But it wouldn't be that bad, but certainly climate won't get better, only worse.Feb 12 13:48
XRevan86* it maybe wouldn'tFeb 12 13:49
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/698134521137516544Feb 12 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Watch Google U.K.’s boss conveniently forget how much he gets paid @schestowitz https://t.co/EfjfrB3djdFeb 12 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.digitaltrends.com | Google U.K. Boss Won't Tell Us His Salary | Digital TrendsFeb 12 17:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Leann02/status/698137664718032897Feb 12 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Leann02: @schestowitz @FreeMattDehart ty for sharing..God bless this man.Feb 12 17:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/larsmb/status/698142872726564864Feb 12 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@larsmb: @schestowitz That RH acquired InkTank does not mean no one else can contribute to the Open Source community. The opposite, actually ;-)Feb 12 17:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Kaspermok/status/698148388966158336Feb 12 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Kaspermok: @schestowitz is there any country that dont see it as a bunden?Feb 12 17:25
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/stedsimple/status/698196927419129856Feb 12 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stedsimple: @PatentWire @schestowitz Yay!Feb 12 17:30
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oiaohmMinceR: wonder if iphones fall for rogue ntp servers.Feb 12 17:32
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MinceRoiaohm: :>Feb 12 17:35
oiaohmMinceR: like time.apple.com routed to own ntp server reporting that it is always  January 1, 1970  could be a good way to deinfect a business of iphonesFeb 12 17:38
oiaohmBecause time set in the device has to be lacking proper validation.Feb 12 17:39
MinceRoiaohm: :>Feb 12 17:39
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MinceR<@dfdashh> divVerent: all new in oracle 12c - auto-increment columns :PFeb 12 19:33
MinceR<@divVerent> now I finally know why they had to buy MySQLFeb 12 19:33
schestowitzinsurance planFeb 12 19:44
schestowitzA search for just the name of the EPO's President now yields several results in the front page bearing techrights, so the negative aspects have become more widely visible. https://www.google.es/search?q=+Beno%C3%AEt+Battistelli&btnG=Buscar&gbv=1 it gets funnier when you click "Images" in Google.Feb 12 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.es | Benoît Battistelli - Buscar con Google [ http://ur1.ca/oihjq ]Feb 12 19:48
schestowitz"Feb 12 19:50
schestowitzBenoît BattistelliFeb 12 19:50
schestowitzBenoît Battistelli is a French civil servant and current president of the European Patent Office. Before taking up this post, he was head of the French National Intellectual Property Institute. WikipediaFeb 12 19:50
schestowitzBorn: July 12, 1950 (age 65), Paris, FranceFeb 12 19:50
schestowitzEducation: École nationale d'administrationFeb 12 19:50
schestowitz"Feb 12 19:50
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schestowitz"Feb 12 20:15
schestowitzI've heard this story, before.Feb 12 20:15
schestowitzMaybe the circumstance will be different enough to matter, this time... maybe not.Feb 12 20:15
schestowitz"Feb 12 20:15
schestowitzhttp://www.techworm.net/2016/02/russian-government-decided-to-join-the-linux-club.htmlFeb 12 20:16
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MinceRhttp://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/11/putin-threat-europe-islamic-state?CMPFeb 12 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Putin is a bigger threat to Europe’s existence than Isis | George Soros | Opinion | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/oihq1 ]Feb 12 20:23
schestowitzneed helpFeb 12 20:24
schestowitzany relation between this company and Microsoft? https://datafox.com/nowsecureFeb 12 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datafox.com | NowSecure Company Profile | Financial Information, Competitors and ExecutivesFeb 12 20:24
schestowitzLike board of directors, former staff etc.?Feb 12 20:24
schestowitzMinceR: Soros writes?Feb 12 20:25
MinceRapparentlyFeb 12 20:25
schestowitzMinceR: "The best way for Russia to avoid collapse is by making the EU implode first – by exacerbating the migration crisis and stoking Islamophobia"Feb 12 20:25
schestowitzBut his hypothesis is legitimateFeb 12 20:25
MinceRthe government of nazi hungary really hates soros nowFeb 12 20:25
schestowitzISIS is not a very potent threat hereFeb 12 20:26
schestowitzMinceR: I think Orban is OK with Putin, have they shaken hands yet?Feb 12 20:26
schestowitzIIRC, Soros escaped Hungary to escape the NazisFeb 12 20:26
MinceRprobablyFeb 12 20:26
MinceRprobably both before and after sexFeb 12 20:26
schestowitz!google orban putin shake handsFeb 12 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Putin finds warm welcome in Hungary, despite European chill ... | http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-hungary-putin-idUKKBN0LL1XP20150217Feb 12 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Trudeau government would stand up to Putin. What about to Orbán? | http://hungarianfreepress.com/2015/10/14/trudeau-government-would-stand-up-to-putin-what-about-to-orban/Feb 12 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Hungary and Russia: The Viktor and Vladimir show - Business Insider | http://www.businessinsider.com/hungary-and-russia-the-viktor-and-vladimir-show-2015-2Feb 12 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Hungary election: Viktor Orban's hold on the voters - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26866071Feb 12 20:27
schestowitzholycrapFeb 12 20:27
schestowitzso much JS in ruetersFeb 12 20:27
schestowitzfrom so many domains other than ReutersFeb 12 20:27
schestowitztrying to see the photos..Feb 12 20:28
schestowitzthey did some photo-opsFeb 12 20:28
schestowitzhttp://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150217&t=2&i=1025817126&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=644&pl=429&sq=&r=LYNXMPEB1G0PRFeb 12 20:28
schestowitzadd the captionFeb 12 20:28
schestowitzLOLLLLLL handshake: http://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150217&t=2&i=1025817125&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=644&pl=429&sq=&r=LYNXMPEB1G0PUFeb 12 20:28
schestowitzI think that answers my questionFeb 12 20:28
MinceRaccording to Balint Magyar and his co-authors, orban takes most of his methodology from putinFeb 12 20:29
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schestowitzif putler goes ballistic, orban will have some 'splaining to doFeb 12 20:30
MinceRhe already has plentyFeb 12 20:30
MinceRbut most of the people of nazi hungary don't careFeb 12 20:30
schestowitzThat's like me shaking Sarah Sharp's hand for the camera in some linux conferenceFeb 12 20:31
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/linking-to-unlawful-content-what-will.html?showComment=1455230451086#c2565588552966867590]Feb 12 21:35
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schestowitz" Anonymous, did you get that info from February 3's hearing that Germany, Portugal, Slovakia and the Commission said that the link isn't a communication to the public? I'm from Canada, but I heard that from OpenMedia. "Feb 12 21:35
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/TTunN6HFeb 12 22:25
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cubexyzhahaFeb 13 01:26
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cubexyzthis old cpu fan is acting a bit strangeFeb 13 02:19
cubexyzit works, I can see it spinningFeb 13 02:20
cubexyzbut about half the time it makes a loud whirrrrr soundFeb 13 02:20
cubexyzthen later on it stops, making almost no sound but still spinsFeb 13 02:20
MinceRstrange indeedFeb 13 02:29
MinceRmaybe it's dyingFeb 13 02:29
cubexyzmy P3 Katmai cpu fans still workFeb 13 02:29
cubexyzwell, all the fans work actuallyFeb 13 02:30
cubexyzat least 17 years oldFeb 13 02:31
cubexyzthe Amiga 500 turns 30 years old next year :)Feb 13 02:38
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MinceR:)Feb 13 02:43
MinceRthe end of hurd: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.htmlFeb 13 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | systemdFeb 13 02:46
cubexyznot sure what Hurd uses for initFeb 13 02:50
cubexyzit's not systemd thoughFeb 13 02:50
MinceRDMDFeb 13 02:50
MinceRor more accurately, GNU DMDFeb 13 02:51
cubexyzah rightFeb 13 02:51
MinceRbut it has to go as it's not bloated and fragile enoughFeb 13 02:51
MinceRand a multiserver microkernel system desperately needs a component that's prone to failure and can't be restarted gracefullyFeb 13 02:51
MinceRalso, they renamed GNU dmd to GNU ShepherdFeb 13 02:51
MinceRwhy rename something they want to kill?Feb 13 02:52
cubexyzI have a theory about why there's so much software churnFeb 13 02:52
cubexyzwhat I believe happens is the oldsters get bored/tired/disinterest in whatever project they worked onFeb 13 02:53
MinceRi just thought this is how the gratis windows foundation earns their funding from redcrapFeb 13 02:53
cubexyzoldster leaves... void is filled by newbie with their own ideasFeb 13 02:53
cubexyzproject morphes or diesFeb 13 02:53
MinceRnot really ownFeb 13 02:54
MinceRmore like m$'s/poettering'sFeb 13 02:54
cubexyzKDE is a perfect exampleFeb 13 02:54
cubexyzpoettering didn't invent UEFI :)Feb 13 02:56
cubexyzcan't blame him for everythingFeb 13 02:56
cubexyzblame him for polutting Linux, yesFeb 13 02:57
cubexyzpollutingFeb 13 02:57
MinceRprobably m$ didFeb 13 02:57
MinceRand i can blame poettering for forcing all the toxic m$ shit into */linux he couldFeb 13 02:58
cubexyzyes, Microsoft did have a hand in UEFI's inventionFeb 13 02:58
MinceRi suspect it was all m$ peopleFeb 13 02:58
MinceRwith an intel rubberstampFeb 13 02:58
MinceRit stinks of m$Feb 13 02:58
cubexyzAMI and the rest were never very helpful eitherFeb 13 02:59
cubexyzso yes, wintel is still alive and wellFeb 13 03:00
oiaohmTo be truthful the core part systemd depends on cgroups starts in hurd.Feb 13 03:00
MinceRirrelevanFeb 13 03:01
MinceRtFeb 13 03:01
MinceRmultiserver microkernel systems are about small components that can be restarted if they failFeb 13 03:01
MinceRsystemd is a huge monolithic hairball that holds a fuckton of state and very prone to failureFeb 13 03:01
cubexyzgoogle started cgroups from what I understandFeb 13 03:04
cubexyzit's a post 2.6.24 thingFeb 13 03:04
oiaohmcubexyz: the experiment came in hurd.   One thing hurd has been good for is a place to try out highly hazard stuff.Feb 13 03:05
cubexyzclearly we can live without cgroups thoughFeb 13 03:06
oiaohmMinceR:  http://www.sensi.org/~alec/unix/redhat/sysvinit.html  Can you list why we have to replace sysvinit.Feb 13 03:06
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oiaohmLot of saying that we can live without cgroups is not exactly understanding the problem.Feb 13 03:06
cubexyzoiaohm, I don't need cgroupsFeb 13 03:07
MinceRoiaohm: we don't have toFeb 13 03:07
cubexyzsimple :)Feb 13 03:07
MinceRoiaohm: we're not redhatFeb 13 03:07
oiaohmThis says head in sand.Feb 13 03:07
MinceRoiaohm: however, we can offer replacements for people to adopt.Feb 13 03:07
MinceRoiaohm: there's a difference.Feb 13 03:07
cubexyzI'm running games, server, video stuff on a collection of computersFeb 13 03:07
oiaohmWhy should you not use a PID to track processes?Feb 13 03:07
oiaohmUnder Linux.Feb 13 03:08
cubexyzso my cgroup is merely a different computer, see?Feb 13 03:08
MinceRoiaohm: now of course if you know that the replacement you'd develop is a horrible piece of shit, you have every reason for forcing people to switch to itFeb 13 03:08
cubexyze.g. this computer is the IRC group :)Feb 13 03:08
oiaohmMinceR: I have pushed for openrc in debian.Feb 13 03:08
MinceRoiaohm: if it was usable, if it worked, people would adopt it on their own. but if it's as shitty as cancerd, it has to be forced.Feb 13 03:08
cubexyzanother computer is the video computerFeb 13 03:08
oiaohmAnd I did not get it.Feb 13 03:08
cubexyzetc, etcFeb 13 03:08
MinceRoiaohm: i've seen debian's answers to openrcFeb 13 03:08
MinceR"it's not ready and we must switch NOW!"Feb 13 03:08
MinceRcompare to systemdFeb 13 03:08
MinceRit isn't ready, it will never be ready, it doesn't work, it will never workFeb 13 03:09
cubexyzoiaohm, I still use Unix v5 and 2.11BSD and 4.3BSD Feb 13 03:09
MinceR"got to adopt it NOW and force it on the users!"Feb 13 03:09
MinceRfuck debilian.Feb 13 03:09
cubexyzusing older tech is no problemFeb 13 03:09
oiaohmcubexyz: Unix v5 does not recycle PID numbers.Feb 13 03:09
MinceRthey're clueless and incompetent.Feb 13 03:09
cubexyzoiaohm, probably openbsd doesn't eitherFeb 13 03:09
oiaohmcubexyz: basically there is a bit of Linux kernel operation that makes it sysvinit incompadible.Feb 13 03:09
oiaohmcubexyz: openbsd rc depends on tty to track processes because it recycles PID numbers.Feb 13 03:10
MinceRoiaohm: oh, and by the way, cgroups doesn't even fucking work.Feb 13 03:10
cubexyzoiaohm, my FC1 server runs fine, and it is definitely pre-2.6.24 kernelFeb 13 03:10
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MinceRhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/743970d2ea6d08aa7c7bff8220f6b7702f2b1db7Feb 13 03:10
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oiaohmMinceR: cgroup as a process tracking tag does always work.Feb 13 03:10
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MinceRhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170765Feb 13 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1170765 – systemd: all processes in scopes (including user sessions) SIGKILLed immediately on shutdown with no opportunity to shut down cleanly [ http://ur1.ca/ocua5 ]Feb 13 03:11
cubexyzit's 2.4.22 kernel Feb 13 03:11
MinceRoiaohm: the one technology cancerd is cargoculting can't do the job of a service manager.Feb 13 03:11
cubexyzso after 10 years it still works fine, I'm happy with itFeb 13 03:11
cubexyzsome even use 2.2 linux kernelFeb 13 03:11
MinceRoiaohm: cancerd as a service manager is a perfect failure.Feb 13 03:11
oiaohmMinceR: in fact cgroups had not be pushed in the Linux kernel before systemd.Feb 13 03:11
MinceRnobody cares.Feb 13 03:12
oiaohmSo it dug out a few kernel bugs.Feb 13 03:12
oiaohmIn fact first version of cgroups ie cgroups v1 is currently being completley scrapped and replaced with cgroup v2 in kernel.Feb 13 03:12
MinceRnobody cares.Feb 13 03:12
MinceRratcrap and their cult is fucking up software to force people to use cancerd NOW.Feb 13 03:13
MinceRit isn't fucking ready.Feb 13 03:13
MinceReven cgroups isn't fucking ready.Feb 13 03:13
cubexyzMinceR, even in Linuxland there's alternatives, lots of themFeb 13 03:13
MinceRthis has been going on for over 4 years, without improvement.Feb 13 03:13
cubexyzslackware for oneFeb 13 03:13
MinceRcubexyz: yeah, and you can see what treatment they get from the cultists.Feb 13 03:13
oiaohmMinceR: that nspawn error is caused by cgroup v1 design error.Feb 13 03:13
MinceRhttps://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.htmlFeb 13 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader [ http://ur1.ca/oijqj ]Feb 13 03:14
MinceRhttp://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/03764.htmlFeb 13 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: careful review of kdbus [ http://ur1.ca/n2vc5 ]Feb 13 03:14
oiaohmMinceR: firmware driver drop was directed by kernel that has a in kernel space firmware loader.Feb 13 03:14
MinceRoiaohm: debilian has come out with an allegedly "stable" version of their alleged OS that forces people to use systemd.Feb 13 03:14
MinceRoiaohm: meanwhile, systemd still can't do its fucking job as an alleged init system properly.Feb 13 03:14
MinceRthis is a colossal fuckupFeb 13 03:15
oiaohmcgroup working correct to it can be used required higher up take rate.Feb 13 03:15
MinceRso broken shit has to be forced into mission critical environments?Feb 13 03:16
MinceRno fucking way.Feb 13 03:16
oiaohmComplaining about udev firmware loading disappear means that you don't know that to be include in kernel drivers were forbin from using that since 2003.Feb 13 03:16
cubexyzI don't see any big problem, just use the software you likeFeb 13 03:16
cubexyzthat's my advice Feb 13 03:16
MinceRthis is not software engineering, this is dangerous idiocy, this is incompetence.Feb 13 03:16
oiaohmUnless you are running really old software the udev change should do nothing.Feb 13 03:16
MinceRthis is every bit of the malicious systematic fucking up people fled windows for.Feb 13 03:16
MinceRudev is toxic, linux should stop depending on it.Feb 13 03:17
cubexyzI wanted to keep KDE 3.5.10 so I did :)Feb 13 03:17
oiaohmudev predateds systemd by a long way.Feb 13 03:17
MinceRoh, and that alleged "stable" version of debilian came out months agoFeb 13 03:17
MinceRdoesn't matter, they've assimilated it.Feb 13 03:17
oiaohmIn fact part of the systemd process has seen unused code like the udev firmware loader stripped out of it.Feb 13 03:17
MinceRnobody cares.Feb 13 03:18
oiaohmFunny as soon as it not going the way you want is magically nobody cares.Feb 13 03:18
MinceRfunny, the way i want is "reliable and secure"Feb 13 03:18
MinceRit's sad that it is not your way.Feb 13 03:18
MinceRit is sad that it's not debilian's or ratcrap's way.Feb 13 03:19
cubexyzno one likes slack? :)Feb 13 03:19
oiaohmRemember VM being hacked by floppy drive  MinceRFeb 13 03:19
MinceRapparently.Feb 13 03:19
MinceRoiaohm: remember shells not saving history on shutdown.Feb 13 03:19
MinceRoiaohm: remember computers not booting due to systemd bugs in alleged "stable" release.Feb 13 03:19
MinceRoiaohm: think about which you'd want running on your life support.Feb 13 03:19
oiaohmsysvinit systems not booting happened before systemdFeb 13 03:20
MinceRthe one that has some extra unused code but _works_ or the one that kills you?Feb 13 03:20
oiaohmNot like the system was bugless before it.Feb 13 03:20
MinceRjust a lot less buggyFeb 13 03:20
oiaohmNot really.Feb 13 03:20
MinceRand a lot more mature by the time systemd was forced on people.Feb 13 03:20
MinceRyes really.Feb 13 03:20
oiaohmMulti partition loads under sysvinit in a lot of cases lead to horible problems.Feb 13 03:20
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Adoption_and_receptionFeb 13 03:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | systemd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 13 03:21
oiaohmBecause the core partitions had not be mounted by the initrdFeb 13 03:21
oiaohmLot issues was caused with distrobutions fighting with systemd over boot up.Feb 13 03:21
MinceRevery distribution with a date in the "Date released as default" column is an unstable, unreliable, insecure toy system not worth relying on.Feb 13 03:21
cubexyzwouldn't every *nix have to recycle PIDs eventually?Feb 13 03:21
MinceRand those are most of the "major" distrosFeb 13 03:21
oiaohmcubexyz: in fact no some unix when they get to max PID simple kernel panic and reboot.Feb 13 03:22
MinceRcubexyz: not once they integrate everything in pid1Feb 13 03:22
MinceRapparently multiprocessing is something that happens to other people.Feb 13 03:22
MinceRooh, "some unix"Feb 13 03:22
MinceRlet me guess.Feb 13 03:22
MinceRit's fucking slowlaris again, right?Feb 13 03:22
oiaohmcubexyz: system V is in that class.Feb 13 03:22
cubexyzI'll ask the oldsters in TUHSFeb 13 03:22
cubexyzoiaohm, what about very old Unix like v5?Feb 13 03:23
MinceRsomeone completely fucked up their unix imitation and now it's an excuse for everything.Feb 13 03:23
MinceRi'm fucking tired of these drooling idiots posing as software engineers and fucking up everything for everybodyFeb 13 03:23
oiaohmcubexyz: I would have to look it up.   PID recycling is fairly new.   It was mostly believed the Unix systems would not run long enough to get to max.Feb 13 03:23
cubexyzold process ends, new process can reuse the PID yes?Feb 13 03:23
MinceRthey should be locked in their playpen and prevented from doing any more damageFeb 13 03:24
MinceRcubexyz: if its parent has waited on it, yesFeb 13 03:24
MinceRwell, the dave cutler school of OS "design" will ensure that systems would not run long enough to get to maxFeb 13 03:24
MinceRyou can count yourself lucky if they even manage to bootFeb 13 03:24
cubexyzwell init stays PID 1 I know thatFeb 13 03:26
cubexyzso that's an exceptionFeb 13 03:26
oiaohmcubexyz: a lot use a simple next PID is +1 to the old PID in the non recycling.Feb 13 03:26
cubexyzswapper is usually PID 2Feb 13 03:26
cubexyzhow large a number can PID be?Feb 13 03:26
MinceRat least 16 bitsFeb 13 03:26
MinceRnot sure if signedFeb 13 03:27
cubexyzon FC1 (running well over one year now) my largest PID is 22000Feb 13 03:27
oiaohmMinceR: unsigned.Feb 13 03:27
MinceRand pid0 is probably unavailableFeb 13 03:27
MinceRas fork() can't return that to the parentFeb 13 03:27
cubexyzoiaohm, the PIDs on my server seem pretty stableFeb 13 03:28
cubexyzI'll snapshot it from week to week to check moreFeb 13 03:28
cubexyzmy STIME on some PIDs is 2014 :)Feb 13 03:28
MinceRshows you're not running systemdFeb 13 03:29
oiaohmhttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/16883/what-is-the-maximum-value-of-the-pid-of-a-process   This is the scary part Linux PID values are not that large.Feb 13 03:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unix.stackexchange.com | What is the maximum value of the PID of a process? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange [ http://ur1.ca/oijs9 ]Feb 13 03:30
cubexyzwhat is it 65536?Feb 13 03:30
cubexyzor 65535 maybeFeb 13 03:30
cubexyzoh it is signed? that's weirdFeb 13 03:31
MinceRyeah, that's the scary partFeb 13 03:31
oiaohm32768 for 32 bit and 22 to the 2 or 4 million for 64 bit.Feb 13 03:31
oiaohmThat is all the PID numbers Linux has.Feb 13 03:31
MinceRnot that an unreadable hairball is forced onto allegedly free systems by fascistoid cultistsFeb 13 03:31
oiaohmAfter it allocated all those it has to start recycling.Feb 13 03:31
oiaohmor kernel panic or fail to start processes.Feb 13 03:32
cubexyzthe kernel PIDs don't seem to changeFeb 13 03:32
cubexyz1,2,3,4 etcFeb 13 03:32
oiaohmWhen you think it can be starting a many new PIDs per web request on a server it does not take that long to spin through 4 million.Feb 13 03:33
MinceRunless it's using a thread poolFeb 13 03:33
MinceRor process poolFeb 13 03:33
oiaohmMinceR: PHP does not.Feb 13 03:33
cubexyzsure, someone could be DOSing your serverFeb 13 03:33
MinceRkeep a bunch of workers alive, hand out work to themFeb 13 03:33
MinceRlol phpFeb 13 03:33
cubexyzbut you could restart apache or somethingFeb 13 03:33
MinceRwell, i guess it's possible to do worse than phpFeb 13 03:33
MinceRyou could be using asp or asp.netFeb 13 03:34
cubexyznot me!Feb 13 03:34
cubexyzperish the thoughtFeb 13 03:34
oiaohmSo reality is sysvinit had to be replaced by something.Feb 13 03:34
MinceRi wonder when will poettering realize that iis, asp and asp.net are so great their "design" has to be forced on unix webservers tooFeb 13 03:34
oiaohmLinux + sysvinit was equallying problems.Feb 13 03:34
MinceRoiaohm: no, it didn't have to be replaced by anythingFeb 13 03:35
MinceRno, not equal problemsFeb 13 03:35
cubexyzoiaohm, but Radio Shack and tons of companies ran sysv on XenixFeb 13 03:35
oiaohmMinceR: or the Linux kernel had to be replaced or altered.Feb 13 03:35
MinceRa small bit of c code and a bunch of simple shell scripts are far easier to maintain and understandFeb 13 03:35
cubexyzand I don't remember hearing about problemsFeb 13 03:35
MinceRoiaohm: i know! kdbus will totally fix it!Feb 13 03:35
cubexyzgas stations ran XenixFeb 13 03:35
MinceRstill not as bad as RHELl 7Feb 13 03:36
oiaohmTo keep sysvinit as it was PID had to be made non recycling like make PID max a 64 bit number.Feb 13 03:36
MinceRactually, pidfiles are unlikely to cause issues even thenFeb 13 03:36
MinceRalso, you're again ignoring the fact that a service manager can run outside pid1, even alongside sysvinitFeb 13 03:36
cubexyzyou would have to fork bomb to run out of PIDsFeb 13 03:36
MinceReven multiple service managers, if you want itFeb 13 03:37
MinceRall sysvinit has to do is reap zombiesFeb 13 03:37
MinceRwhich, by the way, cancerd ALSO fails at.Feb 13 03:37
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cubexyzI see exactly two defunct processes, both from sshdFeb 13 03:37
oiaohmTo be correct the cases of systemd not reap zombies also applied sysvinitFeb 13 03:38
cubexyzafter 462 days (so far)Feb 13 03:38
MinceRyet i see no zombies on sysvinit systemsFeb 13 03:38
MinceRand i've seen reports of zombies on systemd systemsFeb 13 03:38
oiaohmMinceR: are you running cgroup management.Feb 13 03:38
MinceReven though sysvinit systems have been around for _far_ longerFeb 13 03:38
MinceRnoFeb 13 03:38
oiaohmLike lxc or docker.Feb 13 03:38
oiaohmThat is way.Feb 13 03:38
oiaohmBug in lower cgroup code leading to zombie not finding way to process 0Feb 13 03:39
MinceRmy init system is not cargo culting cgroupsFeb 13 03:39
MinceRso the almighty cgroups are fucked up and now this is somehow sysvinit's fault?Feb 13 03:39
oiaohmSystemd made the problem visable.Feb 13 03:39
MinceRwhich was around for decades before cgroups?Feb 13 03:39
oiaohmsysvinit also had issue with chroots at times for the same reason.Feb 13 03:40
MinceRdoes systemd somehow destroy users' reasoning abilities or what?Feb 13 03:40
cubexyzit totally does!Feb 13 03:40
oiaohmThe start of bug was added to Linux kernel in 1993Feb 13 03:40
MinceRguess what, i can even build a kernel without fucking cgroups supportFeb 13 03:40
MinceRand then it won't generate these zombiesFeb 13 03:40
oiaohmThe start of the bug that causes zombies not to reaped starts in 1993 in chroot code.Feb 13 03:41
cubexyzyou install windows 10 then your entire computer is a zombieFeb 13 03:41
oiaohmNot detected properly until systemd started using cgroup heavily.Feb 13 03:41
MinceRsysvinit starts in 1983Feb 13 03:41
MinceRso apparently chroot support and/or cgroup support somehow gained access to a fucking time machineFeb 13 03:42
MinceRwent back in time to 1983Feb 13 03:42
MinceRand introduced bugs into sysvinitFeb 13 03:42
oiaohmI did not say where that bug was copied form.Feb 13 03:42
MinceRnotice that even Linux didn't exist in 1983Feb 13 03:43
oiaohmSystem V implementation of chroot was what Linux one was based on.Feb 13 03:43
cubexyzsysvinit started as sys3 initFeb 13 03:43
MinceRalso, there are plenty of service managers that rely on being the parent process of the daemons they runFeb 13 03:43
MinceRnone of them are impacted by the pid reuse issueFeb 13 03:43
oiaohmThis is a bug that has come forwards and forwards and forwards.Feb 13 03:43
MinceRmost of them can run as any pid you'd likeFeb 13 03:44
oiaohmWhat happens when a feature does not have a proper test suite.Feb 13 03:44
oiaohmThe mess of systemd has at long last got the Linux kernel adding a mainline test suite.Feb 13 03:44
MinceRregardless of how poettering wishes it was, cancerd is _not_ necessary to fix this.Feb 13 03:44
MinceRand in fact, it doesn't!Feb 13 03:44
MinceRpity it didn't result in a test suite being added to the management of distributions like debilianFeb 13 03:45
cubexyzand FC1 does reuse PID for sureFeb 13 03:45
oiaohmIts funny how many faults blamed on systemd in fact predate it massivelyFeb 13 03:45
MinceRmaybe it would have prevented them from betraying their alleged values and their usersFeb 13 03:45
MinceRit's funny how many faults blamed on sysvinit have nothing to do with sysvinitFeb 13 03:45
oiaohmNot being safe against PID recycling is a sysvinit design selection because sysvinit manaul for sysvinit scripts tell you to track services by PID values.Feb 13 03:46
MinceRdoes that somehow prevent you from instead having services not fork (or double fork) and track them as child processes?Feb 13 03:46
oiaohmSo we need a new manual telling people to redo their scripts not needing it.Feb 13 03:46
MinceRa new manual is preferable to a malicious hairball with no documentation, that's for sureFeb 13 03:47
cubexyzyup, my max pid is 32768Feb 13 03:47
oiaohmPID limit is what made staying with sysvinit the way it was not possible.Feb 13 03:48
oiaohmIf you are getting away with it with sysvinit you are just being lucky.Feb 13 03:48
oiaohmopenrc still had the anti-cgroup camp against it. and the I stupidly keep on pushing sysvinit camp that was broken so go in ignore pile.Feb 13 03:49
MinceRyeah, the stupid anti-cgroup camp resisted the Holy Cgroup, even though we all know cgroup is fucking brokenFeb 13 03:50
MinceRhow dare they!Feb 13 03:50
cubexyzit wraps the PID and then just skips over PIDs that are in useFeb 13 03:50
oiaohmIf everyone who had been pushing for sysvinit instead had pushed for openrc that was a working option with optional cgroup usage.Feb 13 03:50
oiaohmThe vote would have gone the other way in debian.Feb 13 03:50
cubexyzvery simple systemFeb 13 03:50
MinceRoiaohm: can you explain to me how it is impossible to run runit under sysvinit and have runit manage services?Feb 13 03:51
MinceRno, the vote would not have gone any other way for a simple reasonFeb 13 03:51
MinceRthe leadership of debilian was compromisedFeb 13 03:51
MinceRprobably via gnomeFeb 13 03:51
MinceRsee the tie-breaking of the TC vote.Feb 13 03:52
MinceRabsolutely corrupt.Feb 13 03:52
MinceRand the path that led there also shows that debilian's leadership is corruptFeb 13 03:52
oiaohmMinceR:  if you leave sysvinit you will have places making stuff up stream keep on pushing out sysvinit only scripts that don't use runit.Feb 13 03:52
MinceRoiaohm: i don't care. properly written daemons are easy to start in nonforking modeFeb 13 03:52
oiaohmThis case you do need the new init system to either wrap over the sysvinit script so sysvinit running under it or demard new scripts.Feb 13 03:53
MinceRor i can write new scriptsFeb 13 03:53
MinceRand upstream can provide support for runitFeb 13 03:53
oiaohmDebian had runit in for years and name how many sevices requested it.Feb 13 03:53
MinceRnow, on the other hand, if upstream introduces gratuitous dependencies on systemd, that's more difficult to fix.Feb 13 03:53
oiaohmMinceR: the answer is 0Feb 13 03:53
MinceRoiaohm: it's not up to the services to decide what service manager i use.Feb 13 03:54
oiaohmThe reality we had a mess.Feb 13 03:54
MinceRoiaohm: it's up to me.Feb 13 03:54
oiaohmSevices provide the default scripts.Feb 13 03:54
MinceRoiaohm: looks like you've already forgot this old model where poettering wasn't in charge of all decisions about what happens on a */linux system.Feb 13 03:54
oiaohmIn fact most services under debian did not provide scripts for runit.Feb 13 03:54
MinceRi don't give a fuck about the default scripts.Feb 13 03:54
oiaohmOr any other init systems bar sysvinit.Feb 13 03:55
MinceRif i want to, i'll run the service from GNU screen from the command line.Feb 13 03:55
oiaohmSo most cases you could not change init systems.Feb 13 03:55
oiaohmSo debian init neturality was mostly a joke.Feb 13 03:55
MinceRif i want to, i'll run it from any service manager i want to run it from.Feb 13 03:55
MinceRno, it was notFeb 13 03:55
cubexyzwrite your own service manager :)Feb 13 03:55
MinceRdebian7 didn't self-destruct because i didn't want to replace half of my userland with malware.Feb 13 03:56
oiaohmMinceR: lot of services would play up if you did put them under tracking service managers.Feb 13 03:56
MinceRnowadays i'm told that this is impossibleFeb 13 03:56
MinceReven as i'm still doing it!Feb 13 03:56
MinceRoiaohm: lots of software is crap.Feb 13 03:56
MinceRoiaohm: that's no excuse for forcing even more crap software on everyone.Feb 13 03:57
MinceRespecially not if it's even more crap!Feb 13 03:57
MinceRhell, debian7 debootstrap lets you install a system without cancerdFeb 13 03:57
oiaohm2002 debian passed that all packages was to support 3 init systems.Feb 13 03:57
MinceRthey fucked that up in debilian 8 for the sake of forcing cancerd on usersFeb 13 03:57
oiaohmThat got ignored.Feb 13 03:57
MinceRand when devuan folks fixed it, debilian didn't integrate the patch.Feb 13 03:58
oiaohmsystemd fairly much dropped hammer.Feb 13 03:58
MinceRooh, worship the almighty hammer!Feb 13 03:58
MinceRif you love centralized control so much, why don't you use windows?Feb 13 03:58
MinceRm$ calls all the shots thereFeb 13 03:58
MinceRyou can see how well it worked outFeb 13 03:58
oiaohmControl was already centralised on sysvinit that did not work in all cases.Feb 13 03:58
MinceRand yet it worked far more reliably than systemdFeb 13 03:59
MinceRand it still doesFeb 13 03:59
oiaohmSystemd has now stuffed it up public enough that people have to talk about it.Feb 13 03:59
cubexyzyes, I mentioned my uptime :)Feb 13 03:59
MinceRand it did even before poettering decided it would be fun to turn gnu/linux into windowsFeb 13 03:59
oiaohmSo in that reguard it been sucessful.Feb 13 03:59
MinceRbut for the sake of foisting malware onto people, we must now pretend that sysvinit was so brokenFeb 13 04:00
MinceRand it must be replaced with something that's not only a lot more broken, but is also unfixableFeb 13 04:00
MinceRgreat plan, isn't it?Feb 13 04:00
oiaohmNot pretend sysvinit was broken.Feb 13 04:00
MinceRso logicalFeb 13 04:00
MinceRread all the wordsFeb 13 04:00
MinceRthey're thereFeb 13 04:00
cubexyzFC1: 22:59:42 up 462 days, 10:31, 7 users, load average: 0.07, 0.11, 0.09Feb 13 04:00
MinceRi can still see them.Feb 13 04:00
oiaohmBut due to people having head in sand that sysvinit was broken we got stuck with system.Feb 13 04:00
oiaohmopps systemdFeb 13 04:00
MinceRoh huhFeb 13 04:00
MinceRwhat do you call people pretending that cgroups can be used for reliable process management?Feb 13 04:01
MinceRwhat's their head in?Feb 13 04:01
MinceRa blender?Feb 13 04:01
cubexyzextra dense sand :)Feb 13 04:01
oiaohmReally debian vote most likely would have went to openrc if the people who would not vote because sysvinit had been removed had instead voted openrcFeb 13 04:01
MinceRdoesn't matterFeb 13 04:01
oiaohmSame with many of the other Distrobution votes.Feb 13 04:01
oiaohmSame failure happened over and over again.Feb 13 04:02
MinceRdebian has failed to live up to its promisesFeb 13 04:02
MinceRthey've sold out to RHFeb 13 04:02
MinceRand the FSF apparently also sold out to RHFeb 13 04:02
oiaohmWho was maintaining sysvinit by the way MinceRFeb 13 04:02
MinceRand RH sold out to m$Feb 13 04:02
MinceRoiaohm: i don't know, i don't care.Feb 13 04:02
oiaohmFunnyFeb 13 04:02
oiaohmSysvinit was maintained by RedhatFeb 13 04:02
MinceRoiaohm: one of the excuses was that it wasn't updated for so longFeb 13 04:02
MinceRguess whyFeb 13 04:02
MinceRbecause it was mature.Feb 13 04:03
MinceRunlike cancerdFeb 13 04:03
oiaohmMature was a good excuse never to fix it faults or even consider it had faults.Feb 13 04:03
MinceRwhich has spent over 4 years of being forced onto users who allegedly are receiving a "stable" systemFeb 13 04:03
MinceRand it still doesn't fucking work!Feb 13 04:03
cubexyzwhoever maintains sysvinit-utilsFeb 13 04:03
MinceRit still needs a lot of things to be fixed so that it can do its most basic job rightFeb 13 04:03
oiaohmopenrc 2005 started by gentoo because gentoo worked out sysvinit was stuffed.Feb 13 04:03
MinceRand yet it's doing hundreds of other tasks, most of them also atrociouslyFeb 13 04:03
oiaohmopenrc was the older solution.Feb 13 04:04
oiaohmThat worked.Feb 13 04:04
MinceRoiaohm: so, how often does sysvinit fail to shutdown a system properly?Feb 13 04:04
cubexyzMiquel van SmoorenburgFeb 13 04:04
oiaohmMinceR: lot more than you think.Feb 13 04:04
MinceRoiaohm: how often does sysvinit decide that fsck has worked for long enough and it's now time to ignore it and resume booting?Feb 13 04:04
cubexyzsend patches to: sysvinit-devel@nongnu.orgFeb 13 04:05
MinceRoiaohm: how often does sysvinit fail to boot because the computer has no internet connection?Feb 13 04:05
oiaohmMinceR: sysvinit cannot force a service to stop if it fails the stop script and hangs a sysvinit system will not shut down.Feb 13 04:05
MinceRoh reallyFeb 13 04:05
MinceRi wonder what's that whole "remount everything readonly; send SIGTERM to everybody; wait; send SIGKILL to everybody; shutdown" thing is forFeb 13 04:05
oiaohmMinceR: no oh really its sysvinit design to depend on scripts means it shutdown is depending on the grace of god.Feb 13 04:05
MinceRwell, i guess remounting happens laterFeb 13 04:06
MinceRyou'll notice a little detail that somehow eluded systemdFeb 13 04:06
MinceRwaiting for processes to exit gracefully before forcibly terminating them!Feb 13 04:06
oiaohmMinceR: the remount everything read only is not in upstream sysvinitFeb 13 04:06
MinceRwell, it looks like my god (myself) is pretty fucking gracefulFeb 13 04:06
cubexyzin the old days we just sync;sync;sync then hit off switchFeb 13 04:07
MinceRfunny, i'm pretty sure i've seen it in every distro i triedFeb 13 04:07
cubexyzthere wasn't even a shutdown or haltFeb 13 04:07
oiaohmMinceR: every distrobution was patching sysvinit down stream.Feb 13 04:07
MinceRnow imagine trying to patch cancerd downstreamFeb 13 04:07
MinceRwading through cryptic uncommented masses of codeFeb 13 04:08
oiaohmMinceR: as cubexyz said sync, sync ,sync kill power that is how sysvinit was upstream still coded for.Feb 13 04:08
MinceRbeing exposed to attacks from upstream for not transmitting the gospel as it isFeb 13 04:08
MinceRoiaohm: why does sysvinit upstream have support for shutting down the system, then?Feb 13 04:08
MinceRwhy does sysvinit have special handling for those signals at all?Feb 13 04:08
oiaohmMinceR: handling those singles does not mean you have todo it sanely.    sysvinit thought you want to power off while you filesystems were writable.Feb 13 04:09
MinceRat least on sysvinit it's possible to run an anonymous vpn serviceFeb 13 04:10
MinceRhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2447Feb 13 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | journal ip anonymization · Issue #2447 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/oijy1 ]Feb 13 04:10
cubexyzI'm not saying sysvinit was perfect, but it did work for meFeb 13 04:12
MinceRit worked for me tooFeb 13 04:12
MinceRand it worked for the sysadmins i know struggle with cancerd bugsFeb 13 04:12
MinceRand it works for the privacy-respecting vpn services tooFeb 13 04:13
oiaohmMinceR: it is possible to build systemd without journald but its not offered that way.Feb 13 04:13
oiaohmMinceR: but at least this is a valid complaint that needs improvement.Feb 13 04:14
MinceRoiaohm: yet for some unfathomable reason, the closest anyone came to offering this atrocity with a reasonable logging service involves letting systemd-journald fuck around with every line of log before passing it onFeb 13 04:14
MinceRthat complaint will not be improved.Feb 13 04:14
MinceRIntolerant Regent P has spokenFeb 13 04:15
MinceRthe bug is closedFeb 13 04:15
MinceRratcrap doesn't care about your use casesFeb 13 04:15
MinceRend of story.Feb 13 04:15
cubexyzexcept for old redhat and old fedora :)Feb 13 04:15
MinceRthose are unsupportedFeb 13 04:15
MinceRthen again, i doubt anything from ratcrap was ever supportedFeb 13 04:15
MinceRwhen their attitude can be summed up as "the nsa's wishes are more important than yours; now hand us your money and fuck off"Feb 13 04:16
cubexyzI bet they would if you give them enough $$$Feb 13 04:16
MinceRi doubt itFeb 13 04:16
MinceRand i don't see why anyone would want to do business with a company like thatFeb 13 04:16
cubexyzok, well I'm the support for FC1Feb 13 04:16
MinceR:>Feb 13 04:17
cubexyzthe world's last oneFeb 13 04:17
MinceRbut hey, we can finally have multiseat serversFeb 13 04:17
oiaohmMinceR: rsyslog has a over wrapper log program as well to prevent application lieing about who it is.Feb 13 04:17
MinceRthat's such an important use caseFeb 13 04:17
oiaohmMinceR: so there was a need for a log wrapper.Feb 13 04:17
oiaohmMinceR: and we really did not need 40 of them.Feb 13 04:18
MinceRoiaohm: now if only you could have your daemons log directly to rsyslog on a lendows systemFeb 13 04:18
MinceRbut you can't.Feb 13 04:18
oiaohmWriting straight into rsyslog you can lie.Feb 13 04:18
MinceRand writing through systemd-journald, you can sanitize your logs _after_ they've been sent off to the nsaFeb 13 04:19
MinceRand a copy kept in RAM in case they come a-knockin'Feb 13 04:19
oiaohmOther option is allowing choice of wrapper.Feb 13 04:19
MinceRallowing choice?Feb 13 04:19
MinceRthat doesn't exist in the lendows worldFeb 13 04:19
MinceROne Man, One Vote.Feb 13 04:19
oiaohmchoice of wrapper exists in openrcFeb 13 04:19
MinceRpoettering is the Man, he has the Vote.Feb 13 04:19
MinceRlendows does not support openrcFeb 13 04:20
MinceROne Microsoft WayFeb 13 04:20
cubexyzI'm sure some distro does support openrcFeb 13 04:20
MinceR"Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."Feb 13 04:20
oiaohmGentoo folks woke up 2005Feb 13 04:20
MinceRi'm sure ratcrap will try to put hard dependencies on cancerd in every piece of software they can reachFeb 13 04:20
oiaohmEveryone else kept head in sand.Feb 13 04:21
oiaohmSo leading to this problem.Feb 13 04:21
MinceRgnome and kde already have hard dependenciesFeb 13 04:21
MinceRall wayland implementations already have hard dependenciesFeb 13 04:21
oiaohmif you mean logind that is not a hard dependencyFeb 13 04:21
MinceRwhat would cancerd fans say if microsoft used these tactics against them?Feb 13 04:21
oiaohmThat was decided before systemd even started.Feb 13 04:21
oiaohmlogind is in consolekit2 by the way.Feb 13 04:22
MinceRyeah, "it's not a dependency on internet explorer, it can be satisfied by anything that provides the same apis as internet explorer"Feb 13 04:22
MinceRit's 2016, am i really expected to be that stupid?Feb 13 04:22
oiaohmlogind api was designed before systemd.Feb 13 04:22
MinceRit still sucksFeb 13 04:22
MinceRit's still a dbus-based atrocityFeb 13 04:23
oiaohmIt might sux but its not something you can blame systemd for.Feb 13 04:23
MinceRi can not blame systemd for what a systemd component does?Feb 13 04:23
oiaohmdbus atrocity predates systemd by a long way.Feb 13 04:23
MinceRwhat am i supposed to blame for it? sysvinit?Feb 13 04:23
oiaohmWe ignored how bad dbus was and hoped it would go away.Feb 13 04:23
MinceRyes, there are other atrocious poetteringware besides systemdFeb 13 04:23
MinceRyes you did.Feb 13 04:24
oiaohmProblem did not pay to ignore it.Feb 13 04:24
MinceRand once they make your software depend on it, you'll be in the front line, fighting on their behalf.Feb 13 04:24
oiaohmJust like ignoring that sysvinit design did not work with the Linux kernel.Feb 13 04:24
MinceRand that's how m$ and ratcrap turned the free software community against itself.Feb 13 04:24
oiaohmEvery one of the times we decided to ignore stuff has created were we are now.Feb 13 04:25
MinceRignoring the sysvinit design?Feb 13 04:25
MinceRi wonder where all these alternative init systems and service managers came fromFeb 13 04:25
oiaohmNone of the alternative init systems got treated as anything more than a toy by main players.Feb 13 04:25
oiaohmRight.Feb 13 04:25
MinceR"main players", also known as red hatFeb 13 04:26
oiaohmThat right every one of them got threated as a toy because sysvinit was perfect.Feb 13 04:26
MinceRi wondered what happened to the "Bazaar"Feb 13 04:26
oiaohmNo main players are places like postgresql orcale apache .....Feb 13 04:26
MinceRbecause this sure as hell isn't that.Feb 13 04:26
MinceRooh, obstacleFeb 13 04:26
oiaohmThe parties making all the services we depend on.Feb 13 04:26
MinceRfaithful follower of redcrapFeb 13 04:26
MinceRi don't depend on fucking obstacle or apacheFeb 13 04:26
oiaohmBazaar without standards and quality controls is a dangerous place.Feb 13 04:27
MinceRhttp://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/app-postgres.htmlFeb 13 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Documentation: 8.2: postgresFeb 13 04:27
MinceR"By default postgres starts in the foreground and prints log messages to the standard error stream."Feb 13 04:27
MinceRdoesn't sound like it would need a lot of supportFeb 13 04:27
MinceRit already does the right thing by defaultFeb 13 04:28
MinceRor is writing "postgres" into a text file somewhere such an insurmountable challenge?Feb 13 04:28
oiaohmLook a little deeper you will find it used PID to tell if processes are still running.Feb 13 04:28
MinceR"Bazaar" with "standards" written by someone who's working out of m$'s book is a dangerous place indeedFeb 13 04:29
MinceRwho is "it"?Feb 13 04:29
oiaohmMinceR: postgres uses PID following the same mistake of sysvinitFeb 13 04:29
oiaohmWe have a messFeb 13 04:30
MinceRwill it cease to use PID when ran under cancerd?Feb 13 04:30
oiaohmWill not matter as much when you can shove it in a PID name space in a cgroup so preventing other processes entering it PID number space.Feb 13 04:30
MinceRso, noFeb 13 04:30
MinceRso, how is this an argument for cancerd?Feb 13 04:31
oiaohmBut that requires init system that support cgroups.Feb 13 04:31
oiaohmSo either it has to be fixed Feb 13 04:31
MinceRand as discussed already, using cgroups for service management doesn't fucking workFeb 13 04:31
MinceRwaitFeb 13 04:31
MinceRthose processes are children of postgres, aren't they?Feb 13 04:31
oiaohmNot all of them.Feb 13 04:32
oiaohmpostgres can start as 3 split partents.Feb 13 04:32
MinceRi don't understand thatFeb 13 04:32
MinceRanyway, if it's so, then postgres needs to be fixedFeb 13 04:32
oiaohm1 running database provide.Feb 13 04:33
oiaohm2 running replicationFeb 13 04:33
oiaohm3 running backup.Feb 13 04:33
MinceRinstead of hijacking the whole OS to allegedly solve a problem and ending up not solving it at allFeb 13 04:33
oiaohmopenrc uses cgroups and would fix this.Feb 13 04:33
MinceRas long as the child process is yours and you haven't wait()ed on it, it doesn't matter if you read its pid back from a fileFeb 13 04:33
oiaohmDon't have to go to systemd to fix this.Feb 13 04:33
MinceRit won't be replaced by another processFeb 13 04:34
MinceRwhat about cgmanager?Feb 13 04:34
oiaohmAs long as you spent the time doing a lot longer configuration.Feb 13 04:34
oiaohmYes cgmanager correctly configured could address it but you are talking large messy configuration.Feb 13 04:35
oiaohmAnd I will be very happy to see cgmanager die with cgroup v2Feb 13 04:36
MinceRyes, you'll be very happy to see cgroup becoming systemd-onlyFeb 13 04:36
MinceRand i'll probably be very happy disabling it in the kernel configuration as it's broken anywayFeb 13 04:36
MinceRand i'll probably be very happy moving to NetBSD or OpenBSD and finally be free (if only for a while) of this idiocyFeb 13 04:37
oiaohmcgroup v2 reduced cgroup to a single tree design.Feb 13 04:38
oiaohminstead of multi tree from hell design.Feb 13 04:38
MinceRi wonder what happened to testing software in a non-critical environment before deploying it in a critical environmentFeb 13 04:38
MinceRprobably the same thing as what happened to thinking first and writing code afterwardsFeb 13 04:39
MinceRi guess i'm just too old for this shit.Feb 13 04:39
oiaohmThat has never been true for the Linux kernel until 2014Feb 13 04:39
MinceRi think there was plenty of software for which it was trueFeb 13 04:39
MinceRincluding some gnu/linux distributionsFeb 13 04:39
oiaohmMinceR: the Linux kernel only gets a in kernel source test kit to be run when the kernel is developed in 2014Feb 13 04:39
MinceRwhich of course shipped linuxFeb 13 04:40
MinceRa "test kit" is not the only way to test softwareFeb 13 04:40
oiaohmIts not the only way but its kinda the min you want to see.Feb 13 04:40
MinceRi doubt it can even replace running code on non-critical systems and seeing how it performsFeb 13 04:41
MinceR(including of course running tests of the service you intend to deploy on it)Feb 13 04:42
oiaohmRunning on non critical systems without a test kit may look perfect because you never tested the functionality that was broken.Feb 13 04:42
oiaohmAnd find out latter it was.Feb 13 04:42
MinceRi'm pretty sure i would notice that my applications didn't save their settings/history on shutdownFeb 13 04:42
oiaohmMaking a test kit to work out all the functionality you need is a good thing.Feb 13 04:42
MinceRi'm pretty sure i don't have to risk lives to test such thingsFeb 13 04:42
MinceRsure, but it's not the only thingFeb 13 04:43
oiaohmI see test kit as bare min.Feb 13 04:43
MinceRand it can't be guaranteed to have 100% coverage, so it won't obsolete other testsFeb 13 04:43
oiaohmIf you don't have a basic test kit you are not even sure basic functionality works.Feb 13 04:43
MinceRit should have been trivial to roll out systemd to a testing release, see how it behaves, then roll it back before making a stable releaseFeb 13 04:44
MinceRthat can be repeated until it works or until you give up on systemd.Feb 13 04:44
oiaohmNot exactly trivial.Feb 13 04:44
MinceRcertainly better than rolling it out on testing, seeing that it sucks but forcing it into "stable" anywayFeb 13 04:44
oiaohmDebian run into problem where some maintain services would not make init files for systemd to let systemd be worked out.Feb 13 04:44
MinceRi wonder why someone wouldn't write unit files for systemdFeb 13 04:45
MinceRthe systemd people are so nice, aren't they?Feb 13 04:45
oiaohmAnd they were not writting tests for systemd either.Feb 13 04:45
MinceRthey totally don't give hundreds of reasons to not want to work with themFeb 13 04:45
oiaohmFor debian to complain about faults.Feb 13 04:45
MinceRthey would surely never say things like "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."Feb 13 04:45
MinceRoh wait.Feb 13 04:45
oiaohmGentoo deleted maintainers accounts who did not support openrc that worked.Feb 13 04:46
MinceRpoettering's cult routinely close bugs that affect many people but the nsa doesn't mind havingFeb 13 04:46
oiaohmNeed to go over those bugs more careful.   Large percentage like programs sending logging data that they should not is a issue under sysvinit windows osx solaris....Feb 13 04:48
MinceRand yet with a sane logging system it's relatively easily worked aroundFeb 13 04:49
oiaohmBasically there are a lot of problems some are init side and there is a hell load service side.Feb 13 04:49
MinceRbasically the architecture of lendows is completely wrongFeb 13 04:49
oiaohmMinceR: systemd you can pass through to send logging to /dev/nullFeb 13 04:49
MinceRand yet it will stick around in RAMFeb 13 04:50
MinceRand it will be leaked to who knows hereFeb 13 04:50
MinceRs/here/w&/Feb 13 04:50
MinceRhas anyone audited systemd-journald?Feb 13 04:50
MinceRwill they audit the next version that's churned out in a few days?Feb 13 04:50
oiaohmMinceR: redirect logging to /dev/null in the container of the service and journald does not see the log at all.Feb 13 04:53
MinceRor just overwrite your lendows install with a free unix and journald won't even be installed, let alone allowed to run!Feb 13 04:54
oiaohmDisable logging collection per service is the same under sysvinit were you have to modify how to start up to do it cleanly.Feb 13 04:55
MinceRexcept under sysvinit, you're allowed to use a logging service of your choiceFeb 13 04:55
MinceRand there are plenty of sane choicesFeb 13 04:55
oiaohmReally it shows how many have been doing it wrong with filters in rsyslogFeb 13 04:55
MinceRunder cancerd, your logs pass through journald, which is untrustworthyFeb 13 04:55
oiaohmAs that is the wrong answer.Feb 13 04:55
MinceRyeah, if they're not doing what poettering is telling them, they must be wrongFeb 13 04:56
oiaohmNo poettering did not give answer to this.Feb 13 04:56
MinceRthey must instead fix every service separately... and if they miss one, that's just too badFeb 13 04:56
oiaohmRecommendation for killing logging is 1982 USA milFeb 13 04:56
MinceRand it's a lucky day for the nsaFeb 13 04:56
oiaohmFor pivacy.Feb 13 04:56
oiaohmBy sending to /dev/nullFeb 13 04:57
oiaohmWhat I said is not a new recommendation.Feb 13 04:57
MinceRyeah, there's no middle roadFeb 13 04:57
MinceReverything that was written on that ticket was a mere illusion.Feb 13 04:57
oiaohmThere is just you missed it.Feb 13 04:57
MinceRuh huhFeb 13 04:57
oiaohmIf I can redirect service logging to /dev/null so prevent journald seeing it why cannot I redirect it anywhere else through anything else.Feb 13 04:58
MinceRwhy should i let people like poettering hijack the OS on my computers at all?Feb 13 04:58
MinceRthey keep giving me new reasons to not want to deal with them in any wayFeb 13 04:59
oiaohmSystemd provides default logging.   Not logging that cannot be overridden.Feb 13 04:59
MinceRjust _default_ logging that cannot be overridden.Feb 13 04:59
MinceRand if you miss one service and forget to redirect it... see above, good day for the nsa.Feb 13 04:59
MinceRor you could skip all that extra work and use an os that was designed by people who knew what they were doing.Feb 13 05:00
oiaohmIf you use any logging the NSA can have methods of getting it.   Feb 13 05:00
cubexyzlog to printer :)Feb 13 05:00
oiaohmSo you want audited code.Feb 13 05:00
MinceRif i ensure that my logs do not have the sensitive info in them, whatever the nsa gets is uselessFeb 13 05:01
MinceRand yes, i want audited codeFeb 13 05:01
MinceRwhich means i don't want something that needlessly consists of tens of megabytes of source codeFeb 13 05:01
MinceRi could use all those man hours and all that money for something valuableFeb 13 05:01
MinceRinstead of having people trying to decipher whatever poettering and his interns vomited onto disk.Feb 13 05:02
MinceRwho knows, if my OS wasn't an entry in the Who Can Make Code More Bloated competition, maybe i could even afford to mathematically prove its correctnessFeb 13 05:02
MinceRbefore the expected lifetime of the universe expires!Feb 13 05:03
cubexyzyou'd like Unix v5, it's totally straightforwardFeb 13 05:03
MinceRi liked gnu/linux before poettering and his pals fucked it upFeb 13 05:04
oiaohmLots of ways gnu/linux has been horiblely screwed up before poettering.Feb 13 05:04
cubexyzok, FC1, slack, AntiX, Q4os, and probably other onesFeb 13 05:04
oiaohmglibc versioning thingFeb 13 05:05
oiaohmcomes to mind.Feb 13 05:05
MinceRthere were screwups in gnu/linux earlier, therefore we must fuck it up completely!Feb 13 05:05
MinceRyeah, totally sound reasoning.Feb 13 05:05
MinceRwhy fix bugs when you can just introduce even more bugs instead?Feb 13 05:05
MinceRit's certainly easierFeb 13 05:05
oiaohmIt called the critical point factor.Feb 13 05:06
MinceRit's called insanityFeb 13 05:06
cubexyzcan firefox do a find like: ^cat ?Feb 13 05:06
oiaohmWhile faults are minor enough humans will ignore them.Feb 13 05:06
MinceRregex find in page? doesn't seem to support thatFeb 13 05:06
oiaohmAt critical point humans start fixing the faults.Feb 13 05:07
cubexyzmaybe there's a pluginFeb 13 05:07
MinceRoiaohm: that's not what's happening hereFeb 13 05:07
oiaohmIts sad we had to get as bad a systemd to trigger critical point.Feb 13 05:07
cubexyzdoh, not available in firefox 16Feb 13 05:07
MinceRhere at the critical point humans started competing on who could introduce more severe design flawsFeb 13 05:07
oiaohmMinceR: it is what is happening here.Feb 13 05:07
MinceRit's sad it had to be an attack on all other unixes as wellFeb 13 05:08
oiaohmIf people were looking for design flaws sysvinit would have been nuked in the first 2 years of Linux and replaced.Feb 13 05:08
MinceRsysvinit was easy to replaceFeb 13 05:08
MinceRcancerd isn't.Feb 13 05:08
MinceRthis is not a coincidence.Feb 13 05:08
oiaohmsysvinit was easy to replace <<<excuse to not bother auditing it and fixing it.Feb 13 05:08
MinceRyes, that must be why s6, runit, sinit, minit, jinit, dmd, etc. don't exist.Feb 13 05:09
MinceRnote that those are also easy to replaceFeb 13 05:09
MinceRagain, not a coincidenceFeb 13 05:09
oiaohmAgain excuse.Feb 13 05:10
cubexyzyes, that's a good pointFeb 13 05:10
cubexyzmodularity is importantFeb 13 05:10
oiaohmWe have many options all flawed in different ways since we can replace them all simply we don't have to fix any of them.Feb 13 05:10
MinceRall these pretty much aim to do one thing and do it right.Feb 13 05:10
MinceRcompare it to cancerd, which tries to do all the things and do them wrong.Feb 13 05:10
oiaohmMinceR: not one you listed is without a documented bug.Feb 13 05:10
MinceRoohFeb 13 05:10
MinceRsoftware that has bugsFeb 13 05:10
MinceRa novel concept!Feb 13 05:11
oiaohmBugs that have stayed in place documented for 10 + years?Feb 13 05:11
MinceRyet they somehow manage to manage processes and even shut downFeb 13 05:11
MinceRsomething, you'll note, cancerd is still incapable of.Feb 13 05:11
oiaohmReality is we no fix has been happening.Feb 13 05:11
MinceRoh, and boot tooFeb 13 05:11
oiaohmWhy systemd thought they could get away with such crap code is because the other init systems were let slide with crap code.Feb 13 05:12
MinceRthey'll all be fixed before cancerd will be fixedFeb 13 05:12
MinceRno, that's not the reasonFeb 13 05:12
oiaohmSystemd issues don't start with just the birth of systemd.Feb 13 05:12
MinceRnone of them are nearly as crap as cancerdFeb 13 05:12
MinceRcancerd will just keep introducing new features per the CADT modelFeb 13 05:12
MinceRmaybe it will eventually be rewrittenFeb 13 05:12
MinceRit will never be fixedFeb 13 05:12
MinceRhttps://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.htmlFeb 13 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | The CADT ModelFeb 13 05:13
MinceRby the way, was the DNS cache in cancerd fixed yet?Feb 13 05:14
oiaohmRefering to them implementing dnssecFeb 13 05:15
MinceRi think it was more about not blindly trusting unauthoritative answersFeb 13 05:15
MinceR(which pretty much all DNS caches get right by now, at least on unix)Feb 13 05:15
MinceRi'm sure there will be some idea of new functionality that could be added to systemd that will be shiny (unlike fixing this vulnerability), and as such will have infinitely higher priorityFeb 13 05:16
oiaohmTurned out glibc default dns resoveler was worst on trusting than systemd one.Feb 13 05:16
oiaohmThat was a imported bug.Feb 13 05:16
MinceRout of how many?Feb 13 05:16
MinceRcohesion is not rocket science, nor is it specific to unix.Feb 13 05:17
oiaohmsystemd resolver over trusted like the glibc resolver but did not have the remote exploit.Feb 13 05:17
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29Feb 13 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cohesion (computer science) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jrpbq ]Feb 13 05:17
MinceRit was part of my software engineering trainingFeb 13 05:17
MinceRwhy does redhat not employ a single person who is aware of this principle?Feb 13 05:18
oiaohmWhen systemd was fixing the resolver they have decided to implement dnssec while they are at it.Feb 13 05:18
MinceRhttp://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/People_d26472_256610.jpgFeb 13 05:18
oiaohmMinceR: most systems were overriding the default glibc resolver so it bug had gone not noticed and it resolver had never been audited.Feb 13 05:19
MinceRi wonder why they were overriding itFeb 13 05:20
MinceRperhaps because it was known to be crap?Feb 13 05:20
oiaohmBecause it did not cacheFeb 13 05:20
oiaohmAll systemd did was implement the glibc resolver with a cache.Feb 13 05:20
MinceRah, so poettering was the only person who discovered the secret of how to add caching on top of the default glibc resolver?Feb 13 05:21
MinceRhe must be some kind of genius.Feb 13 05:21
oiaohmEveryone else used bsd resolver not gcc one.Feb 13 05:21
oiaohmAnd embedded that in there code base.Feb 13 05:21
oiaohmopps not gcc/glibcFeb 13 05:21
cubexyzelinks has regex searchFeb 13 05:21
MinceRbasically the fact that systemd sucks so hard is anyone's fault except systemd's authors'Feb 13 05:22
MinceRsomehowFeb 13 05:22
oiaohmyou did not ask me who wrote the glibc resolver.Feb 13 05:22
MinceRreality turns itself out of its own asshole to preserve the glory of systemd!Feb 13 05:22
oiaohmRedhat developer Feb 13 05:22
MinceRdoesn't matter at this pointFeb 13 05:22
oiaohmWho happens to be working on systemd.Feb 13 05:22
oiaohmLets say how to lack auditing.Feb 13 05:23
MinceRby writing megabytes of uncommented spaghetti code?Feb 13 05:23
MinceRseems to be working fine for ratcrapFeb 13 05:23
oiaohmTo be truthful the resolver in systemd is cleaner than the one in glibc.Feb 13 05:23
oiaohmIt was only written in 1994 and patched for ipv6 in 2004-2005 in glibc then not touched again.Feb 13 05:24
MinceRinexplicably, i fail to be impressedFeb 13 05:24
oiaohmThere are a lot of places in Linux that need a good audit.Feb 13 05:25
oiaohmThe point of view it works it don't need auditing is not really good.Feb 13 05:25
MinceRseems to me there are places where taking a glance at the architecture would be sufficientFeb 13 05:25
oiaohmSome places the fact that specs are missing should be enough to raise alarm.Feb 13 05:26
oiaohmHey we have a library here half the functions don't have any documentationFeb 13 05:26
oiaohmAnd that is glibcFeb 13 05:26
MinceRi've seen that kind of codeFeb 13 05:26
MinceRin systemdFeb 13 05:26
MinceRexcept there it wasn't just half the functionsFeb 13 05:27
MinceRit was pretty much all of themFeb 13 05:27
oiaohmThe very core library most linux dependon.Feb 13 05:27
MinceRno, i'm pretty sure the kernel does not depend on libc :>Feb 13 05:27
oiaohmIt depends on klibc that is in some ways worse documented.Feb 13 05:27
MinceRso, another can of wormsFeb 13 05:27
oiaohmThis is why I say systemd was required.Feb 13 05:28
oiaohmThere are huge numbers of cans worms that require exterminating.Feb 13 05:28
MinceRto add some more design flaws and bugs?Feb 13 05:28
MinceRi don't think extermination works that way.Feb 13 05:29
oiaohmWe had to get bad enough that people start thinking that code auditing is required feature of development.Feb 13 05:29
MinceRespecially then the demonstrative bundle of bugs that was dumped on top is forced on everyone and is worshiped like a god.Feb 13 05:29
MinceRactually, a design review would have caught thisFeb 13 05:29
MinceRand so would have a code reviewFeb 13 05:29
cubexyzwhat about openbsd and older Unix? Feb 13 05:30
MinceRafaik openbsd is regularly subject to auditingFeb 13 05:30
oiaohmopenbsd has mandated by process code reviews and documentation.Feb 13 05:30
oiaohmSomething Linux desperately needs.Feb 13 05:30
MinceRso does GNUFeb 13 05:31
cubexyzis klibc a Linux thing?Feb 13 05:31
cubexyzit's not in old Unix, I just checkedFeb 13 05:31
MinceRcancerd doesn't, as the result is easy to know already: "this whole thing goes into the dumpster, and these people may take another shot at learning software engineering, or look for a career choice they can fail less hard at"Feb 13 05:31
MinceRif i did shit like that, i would not have any degrees.Feb 13 05:32
oiaohmcubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klibc  yep. Linux thing.Feb 13 05:32
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oiaohmcubexyz: most klibc applications are stopped at end of init process.Feb 13 05:33
oiaohmcubexyz: opps initrd process.Feb 13 05:33
oiaohmI hope systemd works to wake up code auditing and other things.   Then hell will have been worth it.   At least it got the kernel to have a in kernel tree testsuite so one someone complains X feature no longer works they know its not them and its the other idiot at fault.Feb 13 05:35
oiaohmYes systemd is party that has caused the Linux kernel to grow a testsuite.Feb 13 05:36
MinceRwas practically killing off at least 9 major distros and hurd worth it?Feb 13 05:36
oiaohmSo if it was replaced now it would leave being a legacy of some good.Feb 13 05:36
oiaohmWhat majors.Feb 13 05:37
MinceRfedora, mageia, opensuse, arch, coreos, rhel, sles, ubuntu, debianFeb 13 05:37
oiaohmIt has not killed them.Feb 13 05:38
oiaohmUpset users yes.Feb 13 05:38
MinceRgranted, in a way they've proven their own incompetence, but i suspect this might be simply a case of entryism in some cases (like debian)Feb 13 05:38
oiaohmbut not killed them.Feb 13 05:38
MinceRwhat is the purpose of an allegedly stable distribution?Feb 13 05:39
oiaohmPoor grade auditing how could you claim stable in the first place.Feb 13 05:39
MinceRirrelevantFeb 13 05:39
oiaohmIts 100 percent relevant.Feb 13 05:39
oiaohmsystemd is no more buggy that prior stuff debian had accepted.Feb 13 05:40
MinceRthey've all shipped known bad design and known bad code despite plenty of warnings in one (and in some cases several) releases that were alleged by them to be "stable"Feb 13 05:40
MinceRas a sysadmin, would i be doing my job by relying on them for stable OSes in the future?Feb 13 05:40
oiaohmsysvinit had plenty of warning it had issues and they shipped that anyhow.Feb 13 05:40
MinceRof course not!Feb 13 05:40
MinceRso what purpose do these distros serve now?Feb 13 05:40
oiaohmLot of large system admins like systemd more than sysvinit because systemd is being more truthful.Feb 13 05:41
MinceRtruthful about what?Feb 13 05:42
oiaohmNot being a large system admin you missed the stuff they were complaining about with sysvinit.Feb 13 05:42
MinceRwhen did they admit they were forcing shit on users?Feb 13 05:42
oiaohmLike reporting services as running when they were dead and the like.Feb 13 05:42
MinceRhow do i miss data loss?Feb 13 05:42
MinceRhow do i miss my laptop failing to boot at all?Feb 13 05:42
oiaohmServers rarely reboot.Feb 13 05:42
MinceRservers are not targeted by systemdFeb 13 05:42
oiaohmServers are targeted by systemdFeb 13 05:42
MinceRshow me one server that needs multiseat.Feb 13 05:43
MinceRshow me one server that doesn't need log rotation.Feb 13 05:43
MinceRshow me one server that doesn't need to be stable or secure.Feb 13 05:43
oiaohmmultiseat gpu splitting are releated.   Required when dealing with evil nvidia cards that required a X11 server per processing application on server.Feb 13 05:43
MinceRirrelevantFeb 13 05:44
oiaohmSorry noFeb 13 05:44
oiaohmYou asked me to show you one server that needs multiseat they exist.Feb 13 05:44
oiaohmservers using gpu acceleration made by nvidia.Feb 13 05:44
MinceRsorry, who gets to use the input devices on a headless server doing number crunching is irrelevantFeb 13 05:44
oiaohmNvidia graphics driver plays up if it cannot find a fake input device.Feb 13 05:45
MinceRfact is, those nine allegedly major distros have utterly failed at the job of a distroFeb 13 05:45
oiaohmNvidia driver optimised for desktop.Feb 13 05:45
oiaohmbeing used in server.Feb 13 05:45
oiaohmSo creating ouch.Feb 13 05:45
MinceRwithout messing by ratcrap they might have avoided being degraded to this pointFeb 13 05:45
MinceRlast time i checked, the nvidia drivers were optimized for opengl graphics workstation usageFeb 13 05:46
oiaohmExaclty must have X11 server and input devices.Feb 13 05:46
MinceRespecially without gnome and kde pushing ratcrap's agendaFeb 13 05:46
oiaohmOnly this year has Nvidia at long last released a headless driverFeb 13 05:46
oiaohmSo until this year multi seat was required.Feb 13 05:47
MinceRi'm not buying itFeb 13 05:47
oiaohmIn sections of the server world.Feb 13 05:47
oiaohmThe abblity to pass from journald striaght out to rsyslog for off server logging is a server world feature.Feb 13 05:48
MinceRif your number-crunching server has issues of the wrong x server getting input from an input device plugged into the server, you're doing something wrong.Feb 13 05:48
MinceRno, the ability to pass logs from journald is a pathetic attempt to work around an enormous design flaw that hurts servers more than desktops.Feb 13 05:48
oiaohmMinceR: Look closer at systemd multi seat it allows creating seats with fake input devices not connected to screen.Feb 13 05:48
MinceRhttps://geekwhisperin.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bug-vs-feature.jpgFeb 13 05:48
MinceRoiaohm: i think x lets you start without input devicesFeb 13 05:49
MinceRi remember seeing a setting for thatFeb 13 05:49
oiaohmLot of bugs was caused by systemd multi seat behaving on desktop like it was on servers.Feb 13 05:49
oiaohmMinceR: Nvidia driver attempts to access input device no input device die.Feb 13 05:49
oiaohmMinceR: why it attempts to access input device is to guess where mouse pointer is.Feb 13 05:50
oiaohmMinceR: or going to be ahead of time.Feb 13 05:50
MinceRso basically multiseat support is important in 2015 and 2016 because nvidia can't write driversFeb 13 05:50
MinceRthat's brilliantFeb 13 05:50
MinceRtypical systemd approach to "problem solving"Feb 13 05:50
oiaohmYes that is the truth.Feb 13 05:50
MinceRwhat are these people smoking?Feb 13 05:51
oiaohmNvidia only had this bug since 2000 so they never considered Nvidia would fix it.Feb 13 05:51
oiaohmsystemd development is a lot more server driven than it appears.Feb 13 05:52
oiaohmAnd since it been tested for server deployment more than desktop it turned nasty on desktop.Feb 13 05:53
MinceRyeah, servers desperately need the extra downtime provided by systemdFeb 13 05:53
MinceRand all that pointless desktop ricingFeb 13 05:54
oiaohmSad but systemd systems are showing lower down time on crashed services than sysvinit equals.Feb 13 05:54
oiaohmdue to true state reporting.Feb 13 05:54
MinceR[citation needed]Feb 13 05:54
oiaohmWas at the systemd conference in those videos.Feb 13 05:55
MinceRooh, they said at the systemd conference, it's got to be true!Feb 13 05:55
oiaohmNow of course they did not bench against openrcFeb 13 05:55
MinceRs/at/it &/Feb 13 05:55
MinceRthey did not bench jack shitFeb 13 05:56
MinceRthey said what their fellow cultists wanted to hearFeb 13 05:56
oiaohmNo these were operational records.Feb 13 05:56
MinceRkept by what, journald?Feb 13 05:56
oiaohmnormal service uptime monitoring suites.Feb 13 05:57
oiaohmSo computer outside computer monitoring that services are up and working correctly.Feb 13 05:57
oiaohmPersonally I beleive openrc vs systemd openrc would have won.Feb 13 05:57
MinceRpersonally i believe that no amount of equivocation and lying will make systemd workFeb 13 05:58
oiaohmIts the loop of PID around leading to sysvinit missing when a service had died.Feb 13 05:58
MinceRjust as it didn't make winblows and OSuX stop sucking eitherFeb 13 05:58
MinceRthe fact is, the only way software can be improved is by working on itFeb 13 05:58
MinceRspreading lies and making up shit won't do it.Feb 13 05:58
oiaohmNot everything systemd said was lies.Feb 13 06:00
oiaohmYes they were correct sysvinit was broken.Feb 13 06:00
MinceRthey must have made a mistakeFeb 13 06:00
MinceRi'm sure it wasn't intentionalFeb 13 06:00
oiaohmRedhat tried upstart before coding systemd to attempt to get away from broken sysvinit  Then ubuntu CLA would not let them submit patches.Feb 13 06:01
MinceRah yes, upstart, the init system that looks good only in comparison to systemdFeb 13 06:01
MinceRmust have been a great relief to upstart "developers"Feb 13 06:01
MinceR"finally somebody came up with something that sucks even harder than our work!"Feb 13 06:02
oiaohmupstart using ptrace makes systemd in lots of use cases look good.Feb 13 06:02
MinceRand yet upstart somehow manages to stick to its own jobFeb 13 06:02
MinceRand somehow manages to not cargo-cult cgroupsFeb 13 06:02
oiaohmptrace can trace of processes can make 60% of your cpu disappear into ptrace on particular workloads.Feb 13 06:02
MinceRgood thing cancerd doesn't waste cpu, right?Feb 13 06:03
oiaohmNot at that level.Feb 13 06:03
MinceRit would not be the #1 cpu user at all timesFeb 13 06:03
oiaohmNot on my system.Feb 13 06:03
MinceRlike this: https://blind.guru/daemon-cpu.htmlFeb 13 06:03
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MinceRoh, rightFeb 13 06:03
MinceRit's not on your system so it must be a lieFeb 13 06:03
MinceRnotice how the top 3 spots are held by poetteringwareFeb 13 06:04
MinceRhm, apparently cancerd itself was #3Feb 13 06:04
MinceRstill ahead of any applicationsFeb 13 06:04
oiaohmMinceR: my top two are normally X11 and iceweaselFeb 13 06:08
MinceRmaybe in a few releases systemd will be bloated enough so you might enjoy it using more cpu than applications too!Feb 13 06:09
oiaohmapache is ahead of dbus on this system most of the time.Feb 13 06:09
MinceRsystemd. Doesn't use as much cpu time as iceweasel yet!(tm)Feb 13 06:10
oiaohmFew recent updates of dbus has seen it drop.Feb 13 06:10
oiaohmThat why I said on this system.Feb 13 06:10
MinceRi like my service managers leave some time for the actual services to run, but i guess that's just meFeb 13 06:10
oiaohmsystemd is running under 0.01Feb 13 06:11
oiaohmpercent of cpu time adveraged.Feb 13 06:11
MinceRwhat about the TIME column?Feb 13 06:11
oiaohmand that is mostly normal.Feb 13 06:11
MinceRcpu time used since process start summed upFeb 13 06:11
oiaohmSitting about the same level as network manager.Feb 13 06:13
oiaohmStill bugger all percentage.Feb 13 06:13
MinceRif upstart had a scope similar to that of systemd, it would have been much more difficult to replace upstart with systemdFeb 13 06:13
MinceRmaybe then we'd hear the praises of upstart moreFeb 13 06:14
oiaohmMost likely same list of complaints as well.Feb 13 06:14
MinceRmoral of the story: the more atrocious your software is, the more it will be loved by the masses.Feb 13 06:14
oiaohmI will give you a few versions back systemd was eating a lot more cpu time.Feb 13 06:14
oiaohmbiggest annoynace is how much ram it still eating.Feb 13 06:15
oiaohmLot of that is auto translation of old sysvinit files.Feb 13 06:15
oiaohmMinceR: also atrocious software can in fact improve to everyone shock horror at times.Feb 13 06:17
MinceRthey had plenty of time to improve their atrocious software.Feb 13 06:17
MinceRin fact, a strong contender for Shittiest Distro Of All Time, fedora, has released 9 allegedly "stable" releases that force useds to endure systemd on their computers.Feb 13 06:18
MinceRmaybe fedora "developers" need to be informed that "stable" does not mean what they think it meansFeb 13 06:18
oiaohmIf you read fedora release requirements no release is stable.Feb 13 06:19
MinceRor if i look at the process listFeb 13 06:19
MinceRor if i look at the previously linked table on wikipediaFeb 13 06:19
oiaohmSystemd presense does not have to equal unstable.Feb 13 06:19
MinceRwell, in the hypothetical universe where systemd is not a horribly "designed", horribly implemented atrocity, it might notFeb 13 06:20
MinceRin the universe we live in, it unfortunately doesFeb 13 06:20
oiaohmDepends what features of systemd you are using.Feb 13 06:20
MinceRis there a feature that gives me back control of my own machine?Feb 13 06:20
oiaohmIf you hit any of it horible defects.Feb 13 06:20
MinceRit's a huge horrible defect by itselfFeb 13 06:20
oiaohmHave you read the docker/vm usage policy ideas.Feb 13 06:21
MinceRwhy would i?Feb 13 06:21
MinceRi don't use dockerFeb 13 06:21
MinceRnor do i see any reason toFeb 13 06:21
oiaohmCreate, deploy. destroy.Feb 13 06:21
MinceRespecially to restrict my services to 1 process just because docker is retardedFeb 13 06:22
oiaohmThat is docker container/vm life cycle.Feb 13 06:22
MinceRno thanks.Feb 13 06:22
oiaohmRunning a  Create deploy destroy cycle you don't hit most of systemd faults.Feb 13 06:22
MinceRi do not share their beliefs that they have a virtualization that has no bugs.Feb 13 06:22
MinceRyay.Feb 13 06:22
oiaohmso big guys with huge virtual machine usage have not suffered from systemd.Feb 13 06:23
MinceRi prefer to not hit most of systemd faults by not running systemdFeb 13 06:23
MinceRit's still less restrictiveFeb 13 06:23
oiaohmAnd they gained correct reporting when services crashed.Feb 13 06:23
MinceRthe nsa can get their zombies elsewhereFeb 13 06:23
oiaohmSo they are happy.Feb 13 06:23
MinceRmy services don't tend to crashFeb 13 06:24
oiaohmSo there is at least 1 camp happy with systemd.Feb 13 06:24
MinceRyeah, the nsaFeb 13 06:24
oiaohmOk make that 2Feb 13 06:24
MinceRah, yes, the gchq tooFeb 13 06:24
oiaohm3Feb 13 06:24
oiaohmstarting to see something yet.Feb 13 06:24
MinceRyeahFeb 13 06:25
oiaohmBig high end is happy.Feb 13 06:25
oiaohmSmall end highly unhappy.Feb 13 06:25
MinceRthere are plenty of evil organizations that want my systems to be full of holesFeb 13 06:25
oiaohmBig end pay support contract to redhat and distrobutions.Feb 13 06:25
MinceRunfortunately, _i_ don't want my systems to be full of holesFeb 13 06:25
MinceRso it will take a bit more forcing on their part to turn my systems into cancerd zombies.Feb 13 06:26
oiaohmSo what big end wants got ahead of what you want.Feb 13 06:26
MinceRyeah, i could tellFeb 13 06:26
MinceRfrom all the WONTFIXsFeb 13 06:26
MinceRand the "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."sFeb 13 06:26
MinceRand from the way they subverted debian to get their wayFeb 13 06:27
MinceRbut they can still go and fuck themselves.Feb 13 06:27
oiaohmDebian had been looking to replace sysvinit since 2002Feb 13 06:27
MinceRwith what?Feb 13 06:27
oiaohmThat was the problem.Feb 13 06:27
MinceRthat still is the problemFeb 13 06:27
MinceRthat obsession was their downfallFeb 13 06:28
oiaohmEvery time the debate came up nothing offered even a single major bug fix.Feb 13 06:28
oiaohmuntil systemdFeb 13 06:28
MinceRthat's why debian is not universal, not free and that's why its latest "stable" release is not stableFeb 13 06:28
oiaohmSo systemd won by fixing I think 4 things.Feb 13 06:28
oiaohmOk it broken 40 more.Feb 13 06:28
MinceRah, so sysvinit had to go because it was too goodFeb 13 06:28
MinceRgot it.Feb 13 06:28
oiaohmNo sysvinit had to go because it was broken.Feb 13 06:28
MinceRdebilian is the pessimized distroFeb 13 06:28
MinceRyeah, it had to be replaced by something that's a lot more broken because it was brokenFeb 13 06:29
oiaohmConditions sysvinit won under were writtne in 2003Feb 13 06:29
MinceRlogic, what's that?Feb 13 06:29
oiaohmNo one thought it would take so long to find a init system or that a init system with those features would be so bad.Feb 13 06:29
MinceRand that's also why debian gnu/kfreebsd and debian gnu/hurd had to dieFeb 13 06:29
MinceRsystemd is not an "init system"Feb 13 06:30
MinceRit's an operating system without a good service managerFeb 13 06:30
MinceR"init system"s don't take over logging, or dns caching, or web services, or clock synchronization, etc.Feb 13 06:30
oiaohmgnu/hurd was on the chopping block since 2008 due to lack of maintaince.  so you can drop that one.Feb 13 06:30
MinceRthey didFeb 13 06:31
oiaohmIt was lucky that gnu/hurd option lasted as long as it did.Feb 13 06:31
MinceRthough it may yet come backFeb 13 06:31
MinceRthe GWF will finally fuck up hurd's design so they can worship systemd all the betterFeb 13 06:31
oiaohmgnu/hurd from debian has been killed off 6 times.Feb 13 06:31
MinceRfinally gnu/hurd can have the huge single point of failure they always wanted!Feb 13 06:31
oiaohmkfreebsd existence in debian always had a percentage of controversy.    BSD rc system was included in kfreebsd yet sysvinit was being kept on being used on it.Feb 13 06:33
MinceRyeah, spare me of all the lame excuses, i've read them all.Feb 13 06:33
MinceRthey first decided that the cancerd cult will have their way no matter what, and then they decided "why" they would.Feb 13 06:34
MinceRlots of liars and no engineers.Feb 13 06:34
oiaohmMinceR: and there is something else bad here.   https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/Feb 13 06:35
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oiaohmRight due to glibc not being kfreebsd properly compatible it impossible to build debian kfreebsd without using debian Linux as well.Feb 13 06:36
oiaohmMinceR: and that is the case before systemd.Feb 13 06:36
oiaohmLike neither of those ports was in a particularly good state.Feb 13 06:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Creator of Android wants to give you a freeFeb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 dashcam https://t.co/1rUts6Bt7G (www.geek.com)Feb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil4oFeb 13 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com | Creator of Android wants to give you a free dashcam | News | Geek.comFeb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chrome For #Android Physical Web Support Feb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Cq4dKeT60D (www.techtimes.com)Feb 13 10:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VyjXocWWZk (www.androidpolice.com)Feb 13 10:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil4pFeb 13 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Chrome For Android Finally Getting Physical Web Support: Here's The Deal : PERSONAL TECH : Tech TimesFeb 13 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Physical Web Support Comes To Chrome 49 Beta For AndroidFeb 13 10:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/698456999126769664Feb 13 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: Lol https://t.co/qdLs5MfjSsFeb 13 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Pwn2Own gets associated with #TrendMicro https://t.co/QEVqSpk35L bad association https://t.co/snvirtm6fgFeb 13 10:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A simple free Android app that will make yourFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 phone much faster https://t.co/O3E0SEhNf5Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (bgr.com)Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6bFeb 13 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Speed Up Android: Free app speeds up Android phones | BGRFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Drives FPGAs, ARM ServersFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0i4mHaPAZk (www.eetimes.com)Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6cFeb 13 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eetimes.com | Red Hat Drives FPGAs, ARM Servers | EE TimesFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A new Android app could detect earthquakesFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Ph8XZ2hqiM (www.thestar.com) meh.Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Equipment/instruments (specialised) so.Feb 13 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | A new Android app could detect earthquakes | Toronto StarFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6dFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gaming on Linux, Steam machines set to soarFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 with DirectX competitor #VulkanFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/y1mirIDRcu (www.pcworld.com)Feb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 #games #openglFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6hFeb 13 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Gaming on Linux, Steam machines set to soar with DirectX competitor Vulkan | PCWorldFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Video: Android 6.0.1 Android Wear Gestures andFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Features Tour! https://t.co/uIl8TLnro6Feb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.droid-life.com) #android #linuxFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6iFeb 13 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.droid-life.com | Video: Android 6.0.1 Android Wear Gestures and Features Tour! | Droid LifeFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google gives My Maps for Android a much-neededFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 revamp https://t.co/7tsxf0yTLBFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.engadget.com) #android #linuxFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6kFeb 13 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Google gives My Maps for Android a much-needed revampFeb 13 10:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698401699711598592   https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698258263389896704Feb 13 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike @github how much is it?Feb 13 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike @github BTW where is your Github repo?Feb 13 11:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DrRimmer/status/698398604243783682Feb 13 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrRimmer: #ISDS is a threat to sovereignty and the rule of law @KennedyGraham on the Trans-Pacific Partnership #TPP #TPPA https://t.co/8kcLr92iPNFeb 13 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.stuff.co.nz | A TPP protester's open letter to Steven Joyce | Stuff.co.nzFeb 13 11:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/GVvUWlx6RhFeb 13 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 11:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil9mFeb 13 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 13 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/Kusidg08YeFeb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilb2Feb 13 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 13 11:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NafeezAhmed/status/698470110571397120Feb 13 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NafeezAhmed: Wow https://t.co/bw0aQpmERBFeb 13 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another reason to boycott #elsevier (don't read, don't review, don't submit) https://t.co/CpYUn4ROQT cc @glynmoodyFeb 13 11:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EurogroupIdeas/status/698478536210907136Feb 13 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EurogroupIdeas: We strongly exhort Italy to privatise its gesture. /cc @schestowitz #eurogroupFeb 13 12:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sparklefingered/status/698481298592108544Feb 13 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sparklefingered: @schestowitz @All4Privacy do you know that block chain ledger system? What if Wikipedia was written this way to prevent revisionism/truth.Feb 13 12:31
schestowitzthat too is a problemFeb 13 12:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rehabmassoud/status/698483934229827584Feb 13 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rehabmassoud: I'd always support Robin Hoods! sci-hub https://t.co/BanHHNzPAtFeb 13 12:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/698245319843258370Feb 13 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: This can't be real. https://t.co/Tpkrl72Y4gFeb 13 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Jeopardy: Hey @Snowden, #YoureonJ today. https://t.co/vFgSFToHIbFeb 13 12:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/698295402232225792Feb 13 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @iainross101 There is a link to the story in that tweet.Feb 13 12:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sparklefingered/status/698493233492578305Feb 13 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sparklefingered: @schestowitz @All4Privacy 🙄👍 there is a whole committee dedicated to making safe for work porn 👌Feb 13 13:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sparklefingered/status/698493534853267456Feb 13 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sparklefingered: @schestowitz 🙃 i'm not at all political, but I'm following you because you say interesting things; however; only if you have cake 🍰Feb 13 13:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7036180Feb 13 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't upload photos eating an ice cream to FB http://metro.co.uk/2016/02/12/apparently-this-picture-is-too-suggestive-for-facebook-5679132/ http://www.indiatimes.com/news/weird/facebook-thought-this-image-of-a-woman-eating-ice-cream-was-so-vulgar-it-deleted-it-250652.html http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/social/Facebook-doesnt-want-you-to-see-this-picture/articleshow/50957997.cms http://observer.com/2016/Feb 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> metro.co.uk | Evelyne Axell’s 'Ice Cream' picture is 'too suggestive' for Facebook | Metro News [ http://ur1.ca/oilmn ]Feb 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.indiatimes.com | Facebook Thought This Image Of A Woman Eating Ice Cream Was So Vulgar, It Deleted It! [ http://ur1.ca/oilmo ]Feb 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Facebook doesn't want you to see this picture - Times of India [ http://ur1.ca/oilmp ]Feb 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> observer.com | Philadelphia Museum of Art Pushes Back Against Yet More Facebook Censorship | | Observer [ http://ur1.ca/oilmq ]Feb 13 13:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/Kusidg08YeFeb 13 13:54
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilo8Feb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian 6.0 Long Term Support reachingFeb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 end-of-life https://t.co/5rngXa6hTbFeb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.debian.org) https://t.co/RVgq7gJraHFeb 13 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160212 )Feb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/kIJ2Gfu0jcFeb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.neowin.net)Feb 13 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 LTS "Squeeze" to Reach End-of-Life on February 29, 2016Feb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilo9Feb 13 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Debian 6 LTS reaches end-of-life on February 29 - it's time to upgradeFeb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux for your Loved OnesFeb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0eVTHbnhdm (freedompenguin.com)Feb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oiloaFeb 13 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Linux for your Loved Ones - Freedom PenguinFeb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston,Feb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME, KDE, EnlightenmentFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NNZXuukVkq (tlhp.cf)Feb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilomFeb 13 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tlhp.cf | The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston, GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment – The Linux Homefront ProjectFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Remembering Thomas Wood https://t.co/3tppDNHWjtFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gnome.org) "a long time contributor to theFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME Art project" just diedFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilonFeb 13 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnome.org | Remembering Thomas Wood – GNOMEFeb 13 13:56
*TweetTuxMachines @JohnitoMusic favourited 'Linux for your Loved Ones https://t.co/0eVTHbnhdm'Feb 13 13:57
*TweetTuxMachines @JohnitoMusic retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux for your Loved Ones https://t.co/0eVTHbnhdm'Feb 13 13:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze SoonFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/enLe1GInNO (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpdFeb 13 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze SoonFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives in All Supported UbuntuFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 OSes https://t.co/xNf8N1dg3fFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpeFeb 13 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives in All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Getting to Know Linux File PermissionsFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KiUCoAqJAW (www.linux.com)Feb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpfFeb 13 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Getting to Know Linux File Permissions | Linux.comFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Benchmarks Of The ODROID-C2 64-Bit ARMFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Development Board https://t.co/7KmwbyTM21Feb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpyFeb 13 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Benchmarks Of The ODROID-C2 64-Bit ARM Development Board - PhoronixFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 toFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Showcase Its Ubuntu ConvergenceFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/f1uBkq6qvl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpzFeb 13 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 to Showcase Its Ubuntu ConvergenceFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: More adventures with Manjaro-ARM forFeb 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 the Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/zJ3Tei6vCOFeb 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Feb 13 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On: More adventures with Manjaro-ARM for the Raspberry Pi 2 | ZDNetFeb 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilq0Feb 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A man with his Fingers in many millions of piesFeb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vLbmMqWaB0 (www.linuxvoice.com)Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilquFeb 13 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/a-man-with-his-fingers-in-many-millions-of-pies/ )Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenPHT 1.5.1 for Debian/sidFeb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YXsd99mVBo (www.preining.info)Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilqvFeb 13 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | OpenPHT 1.5.1 for Debian/sid |Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla #Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Integration for Linux, Sort OfFeb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Zyc4qR0NJa (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilqwFeb 13 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mozilla Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3 Integration for Linux, Sort OfFeb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny Core Linux 7.0 Up to Release CandidateFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase, Adds Linux Kernel 4.2.9Feb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xBUzdHIsB4 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilruFeb 13 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tiny Core Linux 7.0 Up to Release Candidate Phase, Adds Linux Kernel 4.2.9Feb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two WeeksFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 to Patch the Incoming Calls IssueFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LrgqLJRys7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilrwFeb 13 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two Weeks to Patch the Incoming Calls IssueFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly IntegrateFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 the Unity Launcher with NautilusFeb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jPztlvwRpX (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilryFeb 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the Unity Launcher with NautilusFeb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Might Drop Ubuntu DiscourseFeb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OxXp74EMqu (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilrzFeb 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Might Drop Ubuntu DiscourseFeb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3 Integration...'Feb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two Weeks...'Feb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the...'Feb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Transform Your Android Smartphone Into A LinuxFeb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop PC Using MaruOS https://t.co/fgdAdElQAjFeb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.geeky-gadgets.com)Feb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oils1Feb 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Transform Your Android Smartphone Into A Linux Desktop PC Using MaruOS - Geeky GadgetsFeb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze Soon https://t.co/enLe1GInNO'Feb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives in All Supported Ubuntu OSes...'Feb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 to...'Feb 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze SoonFeb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla #Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3 Integration...'Feb 13 14:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two Weeks...'Feb 13 14:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Neon and Plasma RelationshipFeb 13 14:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.davidedmundson.co.uk | Neon and Plasma Relationship | David Edmundson's Web LogFeb 13 14:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Influence of Debian in Linux Open SourceFeb 13 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Community https://t.co/3Fo5M8EisoFeb 13 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com)Feb 13 15:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | The Influence of Debian in Linux Open Source CommunityFeb 13 15:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698517411885150209   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698518499979821056  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698519050033434624Feb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Neon and #Plasma Relationship https://t.co/VijGvY2PeA #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Influence of Debian in Linux Open Source Community https://t.co/I8VWO9NJOf #debian #gnu #linux #murdockFeb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Our Response To Yet Another Bogus Legal Threat From Australia: Go Learn Some Law https://t.co/xK2kNwNQ7B #techdirt gets abusedFeb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Our Response To Yet Another Bogus Legal Threat From Australia: Go Learn Some Law | TechdirtFeb 13 15:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698519357119406080Feb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #UK Court Tells Online Mapping Company It's Not Illegal For Google To Also Offer Online Maps https://t.co/CU7hj5ZIf0 #streetmap desperateFeb 13 15:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Make your own Firefox OS TVFeb 13 15:26
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TweetTuxMachines                 (www.rethinkresearch.biz)Feb 13 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | Make your own Firefox OS TV - LiliputingFeb 13 15:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilyuFeb 13 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rethinkresearch.biz | Mozilla refocuses Firefox OS on connected devices - RethinkFeb 13 15:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 things every Linux beginner should knowFeb 13 15:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | 4 things every Linux beginner should knowFeb 13 15:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Moto 360 Generation 2 Smartwatch ReviewFeb 13 15:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Faking Open, Debian Influence, Da LinuxFeb 13 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fysbis: The Linux Backdoor Used by RussianFeb 13 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Influence of Debian in Linux Open SourceFeb 13 15:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ChristoHaunted/status/698528387049066496Feb 13 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChristoHaunted: @schestowitz thing is censorship will always fail in the long run, #google #twitter and #facebook will wake up and stop it or be replaceFeb 13 15:27
MinceRor the establishment will block replacementsFeb 13 15:32
MinceRs/block/ban/Feb 13 15:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ChristoHaunted/status/698529399667298304Feb 13 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChristoHaunted: @schestowitz RTBF already fail and even if they expand it people will always find away around it, like this https://t.co/AhXS2Ivp2HFeb 13 15:35
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schestowitzDDG is a scam, not privacy-securing at allFeb 13 15:35
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/microsoft-continues-to-use-software-patents-to-extortblackmail-even-more-companies-that-use-linux-forcingcoercing-them-into-preinstalling-microsoft-160210175652.html#talkback_area\Feb 13 15:39
schestowitz"Unless that MS crap is no uninstallable without rooting, I am OK."Feb 13 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtoday.com | Linux Today - Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/oim0d ]Feb 13 15:39
schestowitz"I really don't know why someone doesn't start a group, including the FSF and all the big companies that Microsoft are currently extorting, to stand up to Microsoft over these so-called patent breaches that only Microsoft claims are made by Linux, just to finally force Microsoft to put up or shut up."Feb 13 15:39
schestowitz"in America, they call those two bedfellows Freedom and Crony Capitalism. Reality is whatever Capital says it is."Feb 13 15:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/698534709698035712Feb 13 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz Privatising any health system is=2 opening bank 2 very rich.It would b 'gutted' exploited endlessly-no concern 4 ppl only $$Feb 13 15:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/698535281343856640Feb 13 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Corps Who Profit off of our Personal & Professional Information- Demand Transparency! https://t.co/rsi4mOXhjSFeb 13 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Corps Who Profit off of our Personal & Professional Information- Demand Transparency! https://t.co/rsi4mOXhjSFeb 13 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME: Maps shaping up for 3.20Feb 13 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 things every Linux beginner should knowFeb 13 15:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 things every Linux beginner should know | Tux MachinesFeb 13 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Poll: You Say, ‘Ship Ubuntu Tablets by theFeb 13 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Boatload’ https://t.co/SCw90UKfltFeb 13 15:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Poll: You Say, 'Ship Ubuntu Tablets by the Boatload' | FOSS ForceFeb 13 15:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MESSinAZ5/status/698539970093449216Feb 13 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MESSinAZ5: #Linux #gnu stuff is related to Android OS? Why is it ppl at Android cant answer how 2 enable usb otg mass storage 4 LG ls620 @schestowitzFeb 13 16:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian Makes It a Lot Easier for Users toFeb 13 16:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Talos Principle Is Still Struggling On TheFeb 13 16:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Talos Principle Is Still Struggling On The RadeonSI Driver - PhoronixFeb 13 16:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mesa 3D 11.1.2 Is Out with ImprovementsFeb 13 16:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mesa 3D 11.1.2 Is Out with Nouveau, Intel i965, and RadeonSI ImprovementsFeb 13 16:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Latest Mesa Update Lands In Ubuntu 16.04, Enables OpenGL 4.1 With LLVM 3.8 - PhoronixFeb 13 16:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     XCOM 2 strategy game reviewed on LinuxFeb 13 16:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | XCOM 2 strategy game reviewed on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 16:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dying Light hotfix released, should fix majorFeb 13 16:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/Xxpy9LqdlrFeb 13 16:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mesa 11.1.2 https://t.co/2poFWJStsoFeb 13 16:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa 11.1.2 | Tux MachinesFeb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Radeon vs. Nouveau Gallium3D Driver PerformanceFeb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 On Mesa 11.2-dev, Linux 4.5Feb 13 16:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xenonauts 2 being made, developer tells usFeb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 should be on Linux https://t.co/gEqPBsTBpMFeb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) this too:Feb 13 16:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Xenonauts 2 being made, developer tells us should be on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 16:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Frozen Synapse 2 announced, dev confirmed to us it will be on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenStack Solution Provider Awnix JoinsFeb 13 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical's Cloud Partner ProgrammeFeb 13 16:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenStack Solution Provider Awnix Joins Canonical's Cloud Partner ProgrammeFeb 13 16:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MaruOS gets kudos for source code releasesFeb 13 16:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Debian For Android Maru Project Is Being Open-Sourced - PhoronixFeb 13 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Maru, the Debian for Android Project, Goes Open SourceFeb 13 16:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More Fedora 24 Changes Approved, IncludingFeb 13 16:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | More Fedora 24 Changes Approved, Including GNOME 3.20 & Glibc 2.23 - PhoronixFeb 13 16:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/698547774036381701Feb 13 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz #ilovefs #encryption Will not help if you keep signing away your #privacy rights using SmartTech Apps https://t.co/czeKWl9SN7Feb 13 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz #ilovefs #encryption Will not help if you keep signing away your #privacy rights using SmartTech Apps https://t.co/czeKWl9SN7Feb 13 16:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/GlgDnTzZTOFeb 13 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 13 17:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7036802Feb 13 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android-x86 4.4-r5 Screencast and Screenshots http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-screencasts-and-screenshots-114/android-x86-4-4-r5-screencast-and-screenshots-4175571842/ but there are reasons to distrust the developers http://techrights.org/2014/03/27/chih-wei-huang-rants/Feb 13 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxquestions.org | Android-x86 4.4-r5 Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 13 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Chih-Wei Huang is Trying to Start Misguided Antitrust Case Against Android/Linux (Through Google) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/oimep ]Feb 13 17:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/vR0EYbnOnoFeb 13 18:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 13 18:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/yPvV9hKMRMFeb 13 18:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 13 18:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/4pO4unG8WsFeb 13 18:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 13 18:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7036344Feb 13 18:16
schestowitz"Feb 13 18:16
schestowitzFor me Unity was the reason to turn my back to Ubuntu. After using Debian for a while, I tried Linux Mint Cinnamon and I am still happy with it. Everything works right out of the box.Feb 13 18:16
schestowitzI probably would switch back to Debian but because Debian is my greatest love. But because I gently pushed several members of my family into Mint, I keep using it myself so I can give maximum support.Feb 13 18:16
schestowitzI run several Debian servers so it doesn’t feel like cheating.Feb 13 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the Unity Launcher with Nautilus http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/watch-ubuntu-16-04-lts-will-properly-integrate-the-unity-launcher-with-nautilus-500362.shtmlFeb 13 18:16
schestowitz"Feb 13 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the Unity Launcher with Nautilus [ http://ur1.ca/oimjz ]Feb 13 18:16
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MinceRhttp://theweek.com/speedreads/538379/samsung-warns-customers-not-discuss-personal-information-front-smart-tvsFeb 13 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theweek.com | Samsung warns customers not to discuss personal information in front of smart TVsFeb 13 19:10
MinceR(old)Feb 13 19:10
schestowitzyeah, classicFeb 13 19:36
schestowitzI think LG may have tried something similarFeb 13 19:37
schestowitzbut can't recall for sure nowFeb 13 19:37
schestowitzmaybe it was something similar, not identicalFeb 13 19:37
schestowitzKoreans don't value privacyFeb 13 19:37
schestowitz!google spy korea meddle in electio Feb 13 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Former South Korea spy chief gets jail for election meddling | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-spy-idUSKBN0LD0SW20150209Feb 13 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Former Spy Chief in South Korea Sentenced in Election Case - The ... | http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/10/world/asia/former-spy-chief-in-south-korea-sentenced-in-election-case.htmlFeb 13 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - South Korea jails former spy chief for meddling in 2012 election ... | http://www.dw.com/en/south-korea-jails-former-spy-chief-for-meddling-in-2012-election/a-18244458Feb 13 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - South Korea spy chief sentenced to three years in prison - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31284704Feb 13 19:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JohnnySoftware/status/698590984305774592Feb 13 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnnySoftware: @schestowitz #NewsCorp knows all about #hacking violating #privacy & #security. # of parses? "News Corp out hacking" https://t.co/P3DA6BOEYCFeb 13 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | News International phone hacking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 13 19:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Distro Wars: It's All LinuxFeb 13 20:53
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RoeyhelloFeb 13 22:00
Roeyschestowitz: I just read your article at http://techrights.org/2016/02/10/extorting-acer-with-patents/Feb 13 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft | TechrightsFeb 13 22:00
Roeyschestowitz:  gosh this devious thing just keeps grinding on... MS helped Caldera's successor against IBM, Trak Auto, etc.; it just never ends, does itFeb 13 22:01
MinceRmaybe it will end once redhat destroys unix and gets bought by microsoftFeb 13 22:02
MinceRor once general purpose computers are banned to possess by the general populationFeb 13 22:02
MinceRor once the human species finally managed to exterminate itselfFeb 13 22:02
Roey<MinceR> or once general purpose computers are banned to possess by the general populationFeb 13 22:03
schestowitzhi RoeyFeb 13 22:03
Roeyahlan RoyFeb 13 22:03
Roeyschestowitz: do you speak HebrewFeb 13 22:04
Roey?Feb 13 22:04
RoeyI got the impression that you're Israeli tooFeb 13 22:04
schestowitzno, GermanFeb 13 22:04
Roeyahhhh okayFeb 13 22:04
Roeyyou speak German?Feb 13 22:04
schestowitzRegarding Caldera, that's old news...Feb 13 22:04
Roeywell yesFeb 13 22:04
schestowitzNovell and all, not the point of this articleFeb 13 22:04
Roeyright.Feb 13 22:04
schestowitza previous one covered the SCO stuffFeb 13 22:04
RoeyI appreciate that you covered this.  This is darned insidious and I hope that news of this gets more traction (I've known for years that MS has made vassals of many Android vendors)Feb 13 22:05
schestowitz!google sco ibm new microsoft techrightsFeb 13 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft's Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2016/02/09/microsoft-attacks-on-linux-2016/Feb 13 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft is Not Done With SCO Yet | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2013/06/18/sco-vs-ibm-resumes/Feb 13 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Canonical Goes to Bed With Company That Sues Linux ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2015/03/22/canonical-and-microsoft/Feb 13 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - IBM Bemoans the Collapse of Software Patents in the ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2015/10/30/apple-lawsuit-and-ibm-swpats/Feb 13 22:05
RoeyahFeb 13 22:05
schestowitzsee [1]Feb 13 22:06
RoeycheckingFeb 13 22:06
schestowitzthe Android thing is a travestyFeb 13 22:06
schestowitzmany news sites still paint this as Microsoft as some king of Android champions with 73 or 74 OEMs and OfficeFeb 13 22:06
schestowitzBut they conveniently ignore the context Feb 13 22:06
schestowitzThey're "good" boys and girls, they write what Microsoft tells themFeb 13 22:07
schestowitzand what OEMs under NDAs can't talk aboutFeb 13 22:07
Roeyoh wow, you had just covered that this week I seeFeb 13 22:07
schestowitzit did get to the top of reddit's linux subFeb 13 22:07
Roeyso what happened now with MS contacting your employer?!Feb 13 22:07
Roeyoh ok wonderfulFeb 13 22:07
schestowitzthat's something I only found out about recently, my employer told meFeb 13 22:08
Roeythe chutzpah.Feb 13 22:08
schestowitz2 months ago in Alton Towers, near StokeFeb 13 22:08
schestowitzwell, MicrosoftFeb 13 22:08
RoeyI also get the sense that this is getting scuttled in the media (news of these shady deals)Feb 13 22:08
schestowitzThey're so sure they're always right, like NetanyahuFeb 13 22:08
RoeyahFeb 13 22:08
Roeywell I mean I'm for Netanyahu in many respects.Feb 13 22:08
Roeythat's a separate issueFeb 13 22:08
schestowitzwell, the patent aspects need to be revisited by the mediaFeb 13 22:09
schestowitzbecause they totally miss the full storyFeb 13 22:09
Roeyto wht endFeb 13 22:09
schestowitzmary jo foley at least touched this aspectFeb 13 22:09
Roey*to what endFeb 13 22:09
RoeyI hadn't figured her for an outright shill like you mentioned in your articleFeb 13 22:09
RoeyI had thought that she's clueless or neutralFeb 13 22:09
schestowitzSee the article from her that's cited in [1] aboveFeb 13 22:09
Roeythank youFeb 13 22:09
schestowitzshe had covered, to her credit, similar issues beforeFeb 13 22:09
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:10
schestowitzLike that time MS sued Samsung with patentsFeb 13 22:10
schestowitzand then settled, with Samsung agreeing to carry MS malware on AndroidFeb 13 22:10
RoeyI get the impression that many journalists simply forgot that MS is leeching off of Android vendorsFeb 13 22:10
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:10
Roeyoh MS malware? I hadn't known thatFeb 13 22:10
schestowitzInstead of MS asking them for patent royalties or paying them for preloads it does a bundleFeb 13 22:10
schestowitzand the media just magically overlooks itFeb 13 22:10
Roeywhat kind of software?  MS software?  Or code modules that had nothing to do with user-end software?Feb 13 22:10
schestowitz!google google paid apple billion for searchFeb 13 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Google Paid Apple $1 Billion to Keep Search Bar on iPhone ... | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-22/google-paid-apple-1-billion-to-keep-search-bar-on-iphoneFeb 13 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google paid Apple $1 billion in 2014 to remain the default iOS ... | http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/22/10813558/google-apple-1-billion-default-ios-searchFeb 13 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Google paid Apple $1 billion to be the default search on iOS | http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/22/google-paid-apple-one-billion-dollars/Feb 13 22:11
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google paid Apple $1 billion in 2014 to keep it the default search ... | http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/21/google-paid-apple-1-billion-in-2014-to-keep-it-the-default-search-engine-on-ios-devices/Feb 13 22:11
Roey*end-userFeb 13 22:11
RoeythanksFeb 13 22:11
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:11
RoeyI have read thatFeb 13 22:11
schestowitzOutlook, Live (?) Drive (One Drive they call it now?), Office...Feb 13 22:11
Roeymaybne one of your artciles above actuallyFeb 13 22:11
schestowitzSkype too in some casesFeb 13 22:11
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:11
Roeymind if I lurk here?Feb 13 22:11
Roeyin this channel?Feb 13 22:11
schestowitzIt's coercion with patentsFeb 13 22:11
schestowitzthe site mostly focuses on patents right nowFeb 13 22:12
Roeyseems liek a good place to be since this is near and dear to my heartFeb 13 22:12
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:12
schestowitza lot of "Linux" sites overlook the Big IssuesFeb 13 22:12
MinceROne Platform, One Drive, One Fuhrer!Feb 13 22:12
schestowitzGroklaw did well, but it's history nowFeb 13 22:12
schestowitzMinceR: systemd again?Feb 13 22:12
RoeyMinceR:  come on ;) this is just businessFeb 13 22:12
RoeyMinceR:  there's no emotion in itFeb 13 22:12
schestowitzMinceR: we're talking about MS ;-)Feb 13 22:12
MinceRschestowitz: no, microsoftFeb 13 22:13
MinceRthey're the one who have One DriveFeb 13 22:13
MinceRand One Microsoft WayFeb 13 22:13
schestowitzyeah, I was banteringFeb 13 22:13
MinceRbut yeah, redcrap also only has One Way for everyoneFeb 13 22:14
MinceRsystemd or the highwayFeb 13 22:14
MinceRRoey: i take issue with "business" that's about taking my rights and freedom awayFeb 13 22:14
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz> @JesselynRadack  #BREAKING: #SCOTUS Justice Antonin #ScaliaFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 found #dead at West TX ranchFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 https://t.co/rhs4MH9y7D (www.sfgate.com)Feb 13 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com | Senior U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia found dead at West Texas ranch - SFGateFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 #Vacancy4DemPrezApptFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 #ShiftsCourt2LiberalsFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinb8Feb 13 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'ur1.ca' ( status 0 @ http://ur1.ca/oinb8 )Feb 13 22:16
schestowitzHe was a bad justiceFeb 13 22:16
schestowitzbut he opposed MS on some issues, pertaining to swpats for exampleFeb 13 22:16
schestowitzzoobab: ^^Feb 13 22:16
schestowitzThe fact that he lived in a Texas ranch explained his political slantFeb 13 22:18
XFaCEholy shit scalia is dead?Feb 13 22:18
schestowitznot regarding patent trolls, but Conservatism in all sorts of ways, I didn't know he was from thereFeb 13 22:18
RoeyyeahFeb 13 22:18
schestowitzXFaCE: expect it to be big news this coming weekFeb 13 22:19
schestowitzhe was probably the best known SCOTUS JusticeFeb 13 22:19
XFaCEindeedFeb 13 22:19
schestowitznot for all the right reasons, rather his contrarian (tr human rights) viewsFeb 13 22:19
schestowitzBut there's some good news (for MinceR) https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2016-February/035748.htmlFeb 13 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v229 [ http://ur1.ca/oince ]Feb 13 22:20
MinceRwhat, are they ending systemd?Feb 13 22:21
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonin_ScaliaFeb 13 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Antonin Scalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oinct ]Feb 13 22:22
MinceRor did ratcrap finally hire a software engineer to redo the whole "design" from scratch?Feb 13 22:22
schestowitz"Antonin Gregory Scalia (Listeni/skəˈliːə/; March 11, 1936 – February 13, 2016[1][2])"Feb 13 22:22
schestowitz"Nominated by Ronald Reagan"Feb 13 22:22
MinceRbig surpriseFeb 13 22:23
schestowitz"Scalia was reported to have died overnight in his sleep after a day spent hunting quails at Cibolo Creek Ranch, 33 miles south of Marfa, Texas, at the age of 79"Feb 13 22:23
schestowitzkarma, he killed animals and then diedFeb 13 22:23
Roeyfucking serves him rightFeb 13 22:23
schestowitzI won't miss himFeb 13 22:23
Roeyhunting quails? arghFeb 13 22:23
XFaCEschestowitz: Maybe Obama will appoint Bill Gates as the new judge - didn't he drop out of law school?Feb 13 22:24
MinceR:>Feb 13 22:24
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuailFeb 13 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Quail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 13 22:24
schestowitzMore cute then Mafioso AntonioFeb 13 22:24
MinceRcompetence is not a criterion in 2016Feb 13 22:24
schestowitz*tjhanFeb 13 22:24
MinceRif it ever wasFeb 13 22:25
schestowitzthey got more 'conservative' with ageFeb 13 22:25
schestowitzlike whiskeyFeb 13 22:25
MinceRi think that's called "dementia"Feb 13 22:25
schestowitzhe did a lot of damage to human rights causes in the supreme courtFeb 13 22:25
schestowitzWikipedia covers many of themFeb 13 22:25
schestowitzWe'll see if Sanders can nominate someone with more than 2 b rain cellsFeb 13 22:25
schestowitz(and a bible)Feb 13 22:26
schestowitzScalia was nominated 30 years ago by Reagan, whose main qualification if posturing and pretending to be a real person with real occupationsFeb 13 22:26
schestowitz /s/if/is/Feb 13 22:27
schestowitzAt first I thought he had been murdered or something, but no... he died without pain apparentlyFeb 13 22:27
RoeybackFeb 13 22:27
Roey(was on the phone)Feb 13 22:27
schestowitzhe probably thought he'd climb some ladder to Heaven by nowFeb 13 22:27
Roeyhe died without pain?  If only the quail he shot could have been granted that.Feb 13 22:27
schestowitzinstead he remains asleep in his bed on a Saturday morningFeb 13 22:28
Roey(disclosure: I'm vegan for animal rights)Feb 13 22:28
schestowitzI should be too, maybe in the future...Feb 13 22:28
RoeyahFeb 13 22:28
Roeybtw the reason why I was asking if you speka Hebrew was because schestowitz sounds like an Israeli name and I come from there originallyFeb 13 22:28
Roeyand also Roy is like my name, RoeyFeb 13 22:29
XFaCE"Antonin Gregory Scalia (Listeni/skəˈliːə/; March 11, 1936 – February 13, 2016[1][2]) was an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. As the longest-serving justice on the Court, Scalia was the Senior Associate Justice. Appointed to the Court by President Ronald Reagan in 1986, Scalia has been described as the intellectual anchor for the originalist and textualist position in the Court's conservative wing.[3] And then he dieFeb 13 22:29
XFaCEd."Feb 13 22:29
Roeywhich is one of the most popular names for israelis from my generation (born 1980)Feb 13 22:29
XFaCE"And then he dided"Feb 13 22:29
XFaCE*diedFeb 13 22:29
MinceR:)Feb 13 22:30
RoeyI mean I won't celebrate anyone's deathFeb 13 22:31
schestowitzso he won't have time to cook the quailsFeb 13 22:31
Roeydoesn't mean I won't miss himFeb 13 22:31
schestowitzmaybe they can put him outside and feel him to the crowsFeb 13 22:32
Roey*doesn't mean I'll miss himFeb 13 22:32
XFaCERoey: the RMS quote I seeFeb 13 22:32
RoeyXFaCE:  is it?Feb 13 22:32
schestowitzthat would be politically-incorrectFeb 13 22:32
XFaCE"I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone"Feb 13 22:32
RoeyXFaCE:  it's a Jewish value not to celebrate someone's death.Feb 13 22:32
MinceRthat quote stirred up a lot of outragism thoughFeb 13 22:32
schestowitzXFaCE: JobsFeb 13 22:32
RoeyI strive for lifeFeb 13 22:32
schestowitzRMS on JobsFeb 13 22:32
Roeythat's why I'm veganFeb 13 22:32
MinceRgood thing i'm not jewish, thenFeb 13 22:32
schestowitzI had said worse things than RMS didFeb 13 22:32
schestowitzI'm not celebrating anyone's deathFeb 13 22:33
schestowitzI pass judgmentFeb 13 22:33
schestowitzon their deedsFeb 13 22:33
Roeylook if things were my way these kinds of people would have long healthy happy lives--out of power.Feb 13 22:33
MinceRschestowitz: i don't think you've said things as bad as what rms saidFeb 13 22:34
schestowitzAnd if that was really a value of Judaism, then it applies only to victims from among themFeb 13 22:34
MinceR"systemd is free software because it's LGPL"Feb 13 22:34
schestowitzAs IDF sure likes to celebrate the killings of particular PalestiniansFeb 13 22:34
XFaCEMinceR: shots firedFeb 13 22:34
MinceR:>Feb 13 22:34
XFaCEthe Poettering Police are comin'Feb 13 22:34
schestowitzand even upload murder videos to youtubeFeb 13 22:34
Roeyschestowitz: how so?Feb 13 22:34
Roeyhow so?Feb 13 22:34
schestowitzin their official youtube channels, which violates ToS of Google AFAIKFeb 13 22:34
Roeythe IDF needs to show what hapepnedFeb 13 22:34
schestowitzIt's OK, Israel is exempted from these rules in GoogleFeb 13 22:34
Roeyotherwise it gets accused in the media for things it did not do.Feb 13 22:35
RoeyI'm totally on-board with that.Feb 13 22:35
schestowitzcomplete with annotation celebrating the deathFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzI could find articles about itFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzthey make it like a video gameFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzthe US does it too sometimesFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzbut the US is not generally JewishFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzand I don't think they claim to bemoan the deaths of every personFeb 13 22:35
RoeyIf one person "celebrated" the ending of a life, that's pretty bad.  But I don't see the IDF doing this, or the Israeli society as a whole for that matter.  Feb 13 22:36
schestowitzYou need to pay closer attention thenFeb 13 22:36
Roeyand it /pales/ in comparison to how Palestinian Arabs celebrate each and every one of their terrorists as "martyrs" for their cause.Feb 13 22:36
schestowitzor maybe it's not shown to the inside, owing to poatent censorshipFeb 13 22:36
schestowitz!google idf censors blogs facebook postsFeb 13 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - IDF demands popular Israeli bloggers submit posts to censor - RT.com | https://www.rt.com/news/331628-idf-bloggers-cenzorship-facebook/Feb 13 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - IDF censor requires bloggers to submit posts for review | Middle East ... | http://www.dw.com/en/idf-censor-requires-bloggers-to-submit-posts-for-review/a-19031041Feb 13 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Israel's Military Censor Takes on Dozens of Bloggers, Facebook ... | http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.701462Feb 13 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - IDF censor requires bloggers to submit posts for review: Israeli ... | https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/44ittl/idf_censor_requires_bloggers_to_submit_posts_for/Feb 13 22:36
schestowitzBut anyway, that's off topicFeb 13 22:37
MinceRthen perhaps that rule should be changed to reflect the practiceFeb 13 22:37
RoeyyeahFeb 13 22:37
RoeyI'mk fine with thatFeb 13 22:37
MinceRunless of course it's there so they can point at something when they suppress a video they don't likeFeb 13 22:37
schestowitzunless one says it's not OK to chastise Scalia right now because of "jewish values"Feb 13 22:37
schestowitzScalia was a major arseholeFeb 13 22:37
schestowitzupon his death it's important to set the consensus rightFeb 13 22:37
RoeybbiabFeb 13 22:37
schestowitznot to let eulogies rewrite his recordFeb 13 22:37
MinceRit's pretty sad how much people rely on a few companies to publish their stuff on the webFeb 13 22:38
schestowitzyeahFeb 13 22:38
schestowitzI give them the fingerFeb 13 22:38
MinceRexposing themselves to suppression that wayFeb 13 22:38
schestowitz!google google ends picasaFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Picasa Desktop Users Prompted To Move To Google Photos Backup ... | http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/23/picasa-desktop-users-prompted-to-move-to-google-photos-backup-instead/Feb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Picasa Web Albums - Google | https://picasaweb.google.com/Feb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Picasa – Organize, edit, and share your photos - Google | https://picasa.google.com/Feb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Picasa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PicasaFeb 13 22:38
schestowitz!google google shut down google drive clientFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Uninstall Google Drive for your Mac/PC - Drive Help | https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375081%3Fhl%3DenFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Common errors in Google Drive - Drive Help - the Google Help Center | https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2456903%3Fhl%3DenFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Disconnect your computer from Drive - Drive Help - the Google Help ... | https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2922789%3Fhl%3DenFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google Drive Help Forum - Google Product Forums | https://productforums.google.com/forum/%23!forum/driveFeb 13 22:38
schestowitzThat's something I saw earlier this evening (in reddit)Feb 13 22:38
schestowitzSo much for Google 'cloud'...Feb 13 22:38
schestowitzhttp://fossbytes.com/google-is-shutting-down-picasa-on-may-1-2016/ http://imgur.com/1IxK4hRFeb 13 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Google Is Shutting Down Picasa On May 1, 2016Feb 13 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | It appears Google has abandoned work on the Drive client - ImgurFeb 13 22:39
schestowitzThat's what I foundFeb 13 22:39
schestowitz!google google TRTBF europe expandedFeb 13 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - EU to Google: expand 'right to be forgotten' to Google.com ... | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/27/eu-to-google-expand-right-to-be-forgotten-to-googlecomFeb 13 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - NY Times Warns About Europe Expanding The 'Right To Be ... | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151221/17464733153/ny-times-warns-about-europe-expanding-right-to-be-forgotten.shtmlFeb 13 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Right to be forgotten - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgottenFeb 13 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google To Remove Right-To-Be-Forgotten Links Worldwide, For ... | http://searchengineland.com/google-to-remove-all-right-to-be-forgotten-links-from-european-index-242235Feb 13 22:39
schestowitzone point to censor allFeb 13 22:39
schestowitzas many people use google to find things, or do researchFeb 13 22:39
schestowitzhttps://plus.google.com/+MartinPitti/posts/UU7vabfTAJVFeb 13 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus.google.com | Hot on the heels of the upstream release I now uploaded systemd 229 to Debian… [ http://ur1.ca/oing6 ]Feb 13 22:42
schestowitz"Hot on the heels of the upstream release I now uploaded systemd 229 to Debian and Ubuntu. I'm regularly building and testing upstream master (https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ubuntu/systemd) and both the automatic CI and manual testing are all green now."Feb 13 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-launchpad.net | systemd : Martin Pitt [ http://ur1.ca/oing7 ]Feb 13 22:42
schestowitzMinceR: ^^Feb 13 22:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android More Leftovers https://t.co/YmpMLXCNDIFeb 13 22:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 22:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oing8Feb 13 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android More Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 13 22:42
*TweetTuxMachines @setcatlazare followed @tuxmachinesFeb 13 22:42
MinceRso what?Feb 13 22:42
MinceRthey've churned out new unstable releases for yearsFeb 13 22:42
schestowitzReminds me of Jo Shields and MonoFeb 13 22:43
schestowitzWhich he put in Ubuntu and DebianFeb 13 22:44
schestowitzhe now works for Xamarin BTWFeb 13 22:44
schestowitzSo basically he got close enough to his 'Gods'Feb 13 22:44
schestowitz22:51] <TweetSchestowitz> @ggreenwald      I personally recall with great fondness whenFeb 13 22:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz>                 Antonin Scalia twice vehemently argued for theFeb 13 22:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz>                 right of states to imprison homosexuals forFeb 13 22:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz>                 sex.Feb 13 22:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinhnFeb 13 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: I personally recall with great fondness when Antonin Scalia twice vehemently argued for the right of states to imprison homosexuals for sex.Feb 13 22:56
schestowitzWhat a poor ol' manFeb 13 22:56
schestowitzMaybe he'd fit well in UgandaFeb 13 22:56
schestowitzMaybe his coffin can be catapulted there for burialFeb 13 22:57
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/45kk6k/so_what_happened_to_that_turfwar_that_happened/Feb 13 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | So what happened to that turf-war that happened here few days ago because of a Github related post? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oinim ]Feb 13 22:58
schestowitzI think it's feasibleFeb 13 22:59
schestowitzto reuse a joke from Hitchens, they can give him an enema firstFeb 13 22:59
schestowitzthen they can fit him into a matchboxFeb 13 22:59
schestowitz[old] http://www.wired.com/2015/03/need-free-digital-hardware-designs/Feb 13 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/k3pwq ]Feb 13 23:00
MinceRloolFeb 13 23:02
MinceRs/oo/o/Feb 13 23:02
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schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/85931Feb 13 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android More Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 13 23:04
XFaCEschestowitz: what github thing?Feb 13 23:05
schestowitzoopsFeb 13 23:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hintjens/status/698583168677519360Feb 13 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hintjens: Building native extensions for node.js... and node-gyp builds dependencies in bizarrely random directories. Time to hack node-gyp...Feb 13 23:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698588573998649345  Feb 13 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @nilssonanders if you combine that with an hostile ap that creates SSIDs on the fly from client beacons :-)Feb 13 23:07
schestowitzThis is what I originally mean to paste https://twitter.com/nilssonanders/status/698497237018664960Feb 13 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nilssonanders: Evil plan: Open wifi hotspot which intercepts NTP traffic, and returns January 1st, 1970.Feb 13 23:07
schestowitz^^ appleFeb 13 23:07
schestowitzXFaCE: see threatFeb 13 23:07
schestowitz*threadFeb 13 23:07
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz> @ggreenwald      The ONLY reason we're talking about him isFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz>                 because of his political impact. So of courseFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz>                 it should be politicized.Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz>                 https://t.co/aIYaztRf9V (twitter.com)Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinm9Feb 13 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@prisonculture: We absolutely SHOULD BE politicizing Scalia's death. He was a POLITICAL APPOINTMENT.Feb 13 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: The ONLY reason we're talking about him is because of his political impact. So of course it should be politicized. https://t.co/aIYaztRf9VFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] [Notice] -TechrightsSocial to #boycottnovell-social- @prisonculture: We absolutely SHOULD BE politicizing Scalia's death. He was a POLITICAL APPOINTMENT.Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] * TweetSchestowitz @MMFlint deleted 'Before the body is cold, Republicans demand Obama...'Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz> @MMFlint         Before the body is cold, Republicans demandFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz>                 Obama not be President for the next 11 &1/4Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz>                 months & just let the Court remain paralyzed atFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz>                 4-4.Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:20] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinmhFeb 13 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MMFlint: Before the body is cold, Republicans demand Obama not be President for the next 11 &1/4 months & just let the Court remain paralyzed at 4-4.Feb 13 23:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/698635370565492736Feb 13 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 But more fun with Linux .... 😇😎Feb 13 23:34
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DaemonFCMinceR: https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12360121_540142766143420_3124045675863660772_n.jpg?oh=a12a5cd5389e232a16578115d2bcc33d&oe=576F34A0Feb 07 02:47
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Did you cover Apple error 53 yet?Feb 07 02:55
DaemonFCIntentionally bricking iPhones if you had yours serviced by someone other than them.Feb 07 02:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/696193507094966272Feb 07 05:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: cc:@schestowitz https://t.co/8Ym0tjMdrNFeb 07 05:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drvandanashiva: #Bharat #Biotech #Gates #funded #Indian Co has #ZIKAvirus #vaccine wks after outbreak https://t.co/54jimxqsuY https://t.co/EFa3u2wLhjFeb 07 05:39
msb_!google iphone error-53Feb 07 05:41
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Apple says the iPhone-breaking Error 53 is a security measure | http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/05/apple-iphone-error-53/Feb 07 05:41
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 'Error 53' fury mounts as Apple software update threatens to kill your ... | http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/feb/05/error-53-apple-iphone-software-update-handset-worthless-third-party-repairFeb 07 05:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Apple says iPhone 'Error 53' is to protect customers' security ... | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/06/apple-says-iphone-error-53-is-to-protect-customers-securityFeb 07 05:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - What is Error 53 and why did it kill my iPhone? - The Daily Dot | http://www.dailydot.com/technology/what-is-error-53-iphone/Feb 07 05:41
msb_http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/06/apple-says-iphone-error-53-is-to-protect-customers-securityFeb 07 05:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Apple says iPhone 'Error 53' is to protect customers' security | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/ohnh7 ]Feb 07 05:41
msb_"By concealing the feature prior to sales, and only even revealing it after being repeatedly pressured over it, Apple turned what could have been a feature into a landmine.”Feb 07 05:42
msb_Amazingly evilFeb 07 05:44
msb_They're going to have to fix all those dead phones for free, and send out a software update to the live ones to prevent the attack from triggering.  Otherwise nobody will ever buy one of their phones again.Feb 07 05:47
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msb_This must be why Max Keiser referred in his most recent show to "a rotten apple".  But he didn't get around to discussing it.Feb 07 05:48
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msb_" thousands of users whose phones have been repaired ...   As third-party hardware has been installed on their devices, Apple deems its terms and conditions to have been broken and forced many owners to contribute towards the cost of a new phone."Feb 07 05:59
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msb_The US murdered 30% of the North Korean population, many by burning to death with napalm, during the Korean War, which the US provoked.  Further torture of these people by the US does not seem to be a way to get a good result.Feb 07 08:25
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msb_History is important.  Even if we don't remember, the North Koreans -- human beings just like us -- do remember.  Imagine if you and everyone you know had a parent or grandparent who was tortured to death in the most painful possible way.  _They_ remember!Feb 07 08:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/696252831569993728Feb 07 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: volunteers and crowdsourcing for "harnessing human intelligence" new definition of "useful idiots"? cc/@schestowitz https://t.co/sycsJJ1PEsFeb 07 08:50
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MinceRhttps://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12360121_540142766143420_3124045675863660772_n.jpg?oh=a12a5cd5389e232a16578115d2bcc33d&oe=576F34A0Feb 07 09:27
MinceRoh, it was from here, nvm :)Feb 07 09:27
MinceRas for crApple, the one person i've read about who had their crap bricked was allegedly outraged but immediately rewarded crApple by buying another hypePhoneFeb 07 09:28
MinceRpeople are dangerously stupid.Feb 07 09:28
MinceRand now msb_ apologizes for north koreaFeb 07 09:28
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msb_I told the truth about North Korea.  South Korea was controlled by Syngman Rhee, a brutal and corrupt dictator who imprisoned, tortured and murdered those who opposed him, which included many students.  Of course the US supported him.Feb 07 10:36
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MinceRnext: msb_ voices his support for hitler and explains how everything bad he did was actually the usa's faultFeb 07 10:42
msb_As usual, the US slaughtered the North Koreans because they wanted socialism, which threatened the profits of wealthy capitalists, which they obtained at the expense of workers' wages.Feb 07 10:43
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MinceRso juche is "socialism" too. good to know.Feb 07 10:44
msb_As usual MinceR lies about me.  Of course I have never supported or apologized for Hitler.  But MinceR lies and lies.Feb 07 10:44
MinceRas usual, msb_ fails at reading comprehensionFeb 07 10:44
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msb_MinceR's lies are easy to comprehend.  But they are lies.Feb 07 10:47
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msb_The Guardian article I cited says that " thousands of iPhone 6 users have had their devices, which cost hundreds of pounds, left useless after encountering the error message."Feb 07 11:02
MinceRif humans' evolutionary advantage is supposed to be their mind, where does all this lead?Feb 07 11:03
msb_Hopefully it leads to a huge class-action lawsuit that demands repairs and punitive damages from Apple.Feb 07 11:05
MinceRseems more likely it leads to extinctionFeb 07 11:07
msb_The ultra-wealthy rulers of the US (through its corrupt electoral system) created the Mujahideen, which became Al-Qaeda and ISIL, which is murdering its way through the Middle East.  The US destr0yed the nations of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria in order to allow ISIL to do so, and has given ISIL lots of weapons (as have Saudi Arabia and Turkey).  The US set up a Nazi government in Ukraine in order to harass Russia.  Feb 07 11:13
msb_All this may lead to a nuclear war and the extinction of humanity.  But hopefully factual information will circulate around the Internet and the US will be globally censured for its actions, and will pull back without murdering the World.Feb 07 11:15
msb_The massive approval of Bernie Sanders in the US and Jeremy Corbyn in the UK gives reason to hope that humanity will survive this time of severe tension, and will overcome the hijacking of the Millennium by the US with the 9/11 false-flag attack.  We live in interesting times!Feb 07 11:22
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msb_Humans do have powerful minds, but we also have a buried instinct for psychopathy (control or kill everyone else and you will be safe), and we are easily programmed (what you tell me three times is true).  Full-blown psychopaths have organized and control most of the Western world.  But hopefully the trend is changing, with the Net, Corbyn, and Sanders.Feb 07 11:32
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msb_Trump in favor of severe torture: I would bring back waterboarding, and I'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding."  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u486WX1qHeQ  at 1:50Feb 07 12:31
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msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aODtnLeSDYgFeb 07 12:54
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msb_4:50Feb 07 12:54
XRevan86And if innocent? Then it's a good lesson for them anyway?Feb 07 12:57
msb_If you want to see an example of a psychopath, Trump is it.Feb 07 12:58
msb_The worst presidential election would be between Trump (torture the suspects) and Hillary Clinton ("We came, we saw, [Kaddafi]" died)Feb 07 13:01
msb_Both florid psychopaths.Feb 07 13:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Interview Questions - Riccardo IaconelliFeb 07 19:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five reasons I roll with Arch Linux, and whyFeb 07 19:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux gaming rising: 35 great games for SteamFeb 07 20:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696424021303435269Feb 07 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz As has been covered in the fora previously, we do not explicitly block tor. And, if you're logged in it's quite the opposite.Feb 07 20:11
schestowitzThey block tor, basically..Feb 07 20:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696425915170103300Feb 07 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz There are a few threads discussing the topic if interested. If you're logged in we make an explicit effort to NOT block tor.Feb 07 20:14
schestowitzHow can one log in whilst banned from the site? And within a login, is anonymity possible really? There's cookie tracking at Five Eyes.Feb 07 20:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696428079581949952   https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696428253138046978Feb 07 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz How did a member being banned enter into the equation? We only ban for very egregious reasons.Feb 07 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @schestowitz And as I mentioned, even if you are not logged in we do not explicitly disallow tor in any way.Feb 07 20:24
schestowitzIt sounds like Tor is blocked by default (speaking for the person from diaspora, sort of)Feb 07 20:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/696429731986698240Feb 07 20:29
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696435896858488833   https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696436119961899008  https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696436726038802432Feb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @Dianne_Khan this is why Gates and that other billionaire shouldn't have a single bloody thing to do with edu https://t.co/S65X9hPiAXFeb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Yet another study calling the #GatesFoundation a fraud and harmful to agriculture" https://t.co/WUO7opRoWW via https://t.co/wZZp5jTSUkFeb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @Dianne_Khan @schestowitz much less be allowed to start a charter school here in NZFeb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @Dianne_Khan here's another https://t.co/TAYyRbb7FBFeb 07 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Fighting “corporate control of education”: A millennial #education wonk goes to war against #neoliberal reform https://t.co/ZPGrYuwKWCFeb 07 20:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/696151573488132096Feb 07 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: Software patents in Europe: Information modelling is in itself not patent-eligible https://t.co/3wiyFM61Ic #swpatsFeb 07 20:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/696437858148737024  https://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/696438277889531904Feb 07 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oshwm666: @linuxquestions @schestowitz how weird then that the first impression I get of your site is when I follow a link from someone else that...Feb 07 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@oshwm666: @linuxquestions @schestowitz ...lands me on the page that notifies me that I am blocked. I guess the solution is just to elsewhere instead.Feb 07 21:02
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schestowitzhttp://dancerscode.com/blog/why-the-open-code-of-conduct-isnt-for-me/Feb 07 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dancerscode.com | Why the Open Code of Conduct Isn’t for Me | Dancer's Code [ http://ur1.ca/ohq39 ]Feb 07 21:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Samoan_Attorney/status/696439728476803072Feb 07 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Samoan_Attorney: @retroDoomer @schestowitz @Dianne_Khan Pretty anemic critique TBH.Feb 07 21:13
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueFeb 07 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1e8bh ]Feb 07 21:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Best Graphics Card Brands For NVIDIA/AMDFeb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 GPUs As A Linux Consumer?Feb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1Retak5pbR (www.phoronix.com)Feb 07 21:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Best Graphics Card Brands For NVIDIA/AMD GPUs As A Linux Consumer? - PhoronixFeb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rhythmbox 3.3 (Open-Source Music ManagementFeb 07 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 App) Brings Changes https://t.co/qDscihxDEUFeb 07 21:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Rhythmbox 3.3 (Open-Source Music Management App) Brings Changes | LinuxG.netFeb 07 21:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Korora 23 Is an Exquisite Fedora 23 Remix...'Feb 07 21:21
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696443791822041088Feb 07 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: Catalogue of Bill Gates' dirty deeds... https://t.co/xOqO2p0uy2Feb 07 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Samoan_Attorney @retroDoomer @Dianne_Khan https://t.co/VlB48Exg46Feb 07 21:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7017557Feb 07 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #MaruOS Turns Your #Android Phone Into A #Linux Desktop Computer http://fossbytes.com/maruos-turns-your-android-phone-into-a-linux-desktop-computer/Feb 07 21:27
schestowitz"won’t that turn a slow PC into a fast Android Smartphone and then back into a slow PC? :D"Feb 07 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fossbytes.com | How MaruOS Turns Your Android Phone Into A Linux Desktop Computer [ http://ur1.ca/ohm1c ]Feb 07 21:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7017359Feb 07 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ZorinOS 11 Screencast and Screenshots http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-screencasts-and-screenshots-114/zorin-os-11-screencast-and-screenshots-4175571420/ #gnu #linuxFeb 07 21:28
schestowitz"So, get an account, let us track you and you’re allowed in is the message. As I said, fuck 'em :D"Feb 07 21:28
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schestowitz^^^ Linux QuestionsFeb 07 21:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Samoan_Attorney/status/696445414321459200Feb 07 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Samoan_Attorney: @schestowitz @retroDoomer @Dianne_Khan Much more sanguine, thanks. Complicated man, with a complicated legacy.Feb 07 21:30
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cubexyzwow, Ellison is almost Gates level with $54 billionFeb 07 21:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696447751127748612   https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696448124802433024 https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696448508115734528  https://twitter.com/linuxquestions/status/696448796100849664Feb 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz If not logged in, a specific exit node may be blocked for a short amount if time if it has been used to abuse LQ.Feb 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz While we are huge proponents of privacy, ensuring the site is available and spam free for all is our top priority.Feb 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz We have many members and mods who use tor while logged in and while not logged in...Feb 07 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxquestions: @oshwm666 @schestowitz ... and we will continue to allow tor in all cases where we can in the future.Feb 07 21:43
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schestowitzhttp://original.antiwar.com/updates/2016/02/06/suicide-bomber-strikes-near-us-base-125-killed-across-iraq/Feb 07 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-original.antiwar.com | Suicide Bomber Strikes near US Base; 125 Killed Across Iraq - Antiwar.com Original by -- Antiwar.com [ http://ur1.ca/ohq9y ]Feb 07 21:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rhythmbox 3.3 (Open-Source Music ManagementFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    App) Brings Changes https://t.co/qDscihxDEUFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    (linuxg.net)Feb 07 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on NVIDIA https://t.co/yOWS1SgaMlFeb 07 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/fkp3EQ0qFPFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 21:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/L0dRsxgjhiFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 21:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 07 21:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/Awt5XR8MwPFeb 07 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 21:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696464913510825984Feb 07 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz Just interested in what they are granting? Are they of the same low quality as US Software Patents? The EU seems messed up tooFeb 07 22:49
schestowitzPatent scope are an issue, notably patents on seeds, pigs, software and so on.Feb 07 22:50
schestowitzLeft column "Scope" http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPOFeb 07 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - TechrightsFeb 07 22:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696466610782130176Feb 07 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz Why isn't this being stopped?Feb 07 22:54
schestowitzThe public is not doing enough. Did you contact your delegates? http://techrights.org/2015/12/10/ac-national-delegations-contacts/ how about resuming your UPC site?Feb 07 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Contacting National Delegations to Complain About the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ohqli ]Feb 07 22:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696467949230624768Feb 07 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz UPC site?Feb 07 23:00
schestowitzOh, that's Dinet...Feb 07 23:00
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/696469077452320768Feb 07 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz This seems like a bad situation, hope this is stoppedFeb 07 23:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     C.H.I.P. and Raspberry Pi 2Feb 07 23:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | C.H.I.P. and Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Hold the front pages: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS won’tFeb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 ship with the latest Nautilus 3.18 asFeb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 originally intended." https://t.co/qKRj4jqPYdFeb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Feb 07 23:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Ship An Older Version Of Nautilus - OMG! Ubuntu!Feb 07 23:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Q4OS Linux Distro Adds a Trinity Repository,Feb 07 23:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Q4OS Linux Distro Adds a Trinity Repository,Feb 08 03:29
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cubexyzok, vector linux 7.1 light is decent enough Feb 08 06:21
cubexyzI had some issues with fonts on the new firefoxFeb 08 06:21
cubexyzsmtube worked quite wellFeb 08 06:22
cubexyzthere's something up with firefox versions 32 and laterFeb 08 06:59
cubexyzparts of the font are transparent, just doesn't look rightFeb 08 06:59
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ff-text-fail.pngFeb 08 07:01
*amarsh04 runs a radeon 9550 on this machineFeb 08 07:06
amarsh04the other machine has a radeon hd 5450 (slowest I could get for pci express)Feb 08 07:07
cubexyzyou wanted the slowest?Feb 08 07:07
amarsh04lowest powerFeb 08 07:08
cubexyzah rightFeb 08 07:08
amarsh04it can still play back 1920 x 1080 video alright most of the timeFeb 08 07:09
cubexyzthere are times when I actually did want a slower deviceFeb 08 07:10
amarsh04might get something faster later on if I really want toFeb 08 07:10
cubexyzold computer needed an old cdrom, wouldn't work with a new oneFeb 08 07:10
amarsh04well, I couldn't buy a new CD/DVD drive with IDE interfaceFeb 08 07:10
amarsh04and I wanted the drive to be bootable, so I found a secondhand oneFeb 08 07:11
cubexyzyou might be able to find a NOS one on ebayFeb 08 07:11
cubexyzI have a P3 box that I added an IDE/SATA card toFeb 08 07:12
amarsh04I ended up getting a Soundblaster Audigy sound card on ebayFeb 08 07:12
amarsh04can it boot off devices attached to that card?Feb 08 07:12
cubexyznever tried thatFeb 08 07:13
cubexyzlet me give knoppixmame a tryFeb 08 07:13
amarsh04this old machine's bios has a "SCSI" option in the boot order (and I have a SCSI card in it, but don't boot from it)Feb 08 07:14
amarsh04it's a slightly different matter between being able to support a storage device on a particular machine and being able to boot from itFeb 08 07:15
amarsh04not sure that this machine can boot from USB stick so I use the CD drive for emergency boot repairsFeb 08 07:15
cubexyzI have to say no in my caseFeb 08 07:17
cubexyzP3 QDI motherboard with IDE/SATA cardFeb 08 07:17
cubexyzprobably wouldn't be able to boot the SATA hard drive eitherFeb 08 07:17
cubexyzsurely that is a BIOS limitationFeb 08 07:19
amarsh04yesFeb 08 07:26
amarsh04anyway, time to switch machinesFeb 08 07:27
amarsh04bfnFeb 08 07:27
oiaohmcubexyz: not exactly that simple.  Some IDE/SATA cards append the BIOS so allowing systems to boot bigger hard drives than the default BIOS can.Feb 08 08:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IP_Meldrew/status/696619725653200896Feb 08 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IP_Meldrew: How could we forget you when you're in our face so much? Will you remain blind, when it is a success for SMEs? https://t.co/4JRhOFmovVFeb 08 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If the #upc ever becomes a reality (it's not inevitable, no matter what #epo and #patent lawyers say), remember those who warned about itFeb 08 09:03
TweetTuxMachines@bastianbest     "European Software Patents Weekly" is out!Feb 08 09:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tmMZSSB96I (paper.li) #swpatFeb 08 09:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Thanks to @dsd_essex @tuxmachines @Tax4BusinessFeb 08 09:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | European Software Patents WeeklyFeb 08 09:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/696626874890522624Feb 08 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz US pilot "was arrested as an “ISIS fighter” was a complete fabrication." https://t.co/ZlvWecMHD8 #turkeyFeb 08 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theintercept.com | U.S. Air Force Veteran, Smeared as “an ISIS Fighter,” Just Returned to the U.S.Feb 08 09:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/696628130971262976Feb 08 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: MT @schestowitz SIPO (China's Patent Office) Taken Over by Patent Maximalists https://t.co/1oGM9ts9IyFeb 08 09:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IP_Meldrew/status/696633920859799552Feb 08 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IP_Meldrew: Are you so relentlessly Luddite in all things? Computers weren't a success until they were invented and tried. https://t.co/XRoEWD2N6SFeb 08 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: No examples #upc is a success for SMEs and since UPC is still an #epo and #patent lawyers' fantasy, can take time https://t.co/GwiyVswqZnFeb 08 10:04
schestowitzIn spite of patentsFeb 08 10:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.5 RC3  https://t.co/m4NSrQQU5cFeb 08 10:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (lkml.iu.edu) https://t.co/c8mWx7zsNxFeb 08 10:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 4.5-rc3Feb 08 10:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.5-rc3 Kernel Released & Has Fixes For AMDGPU - PhoronixFeb 08 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Releases a "Slightly Bigger than Expected" Linux Kernel 4.5 RC3Feb 08 10:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in theFeb 08 10:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus 1.1 Linux Operating SystemFeb 08 10:06
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ryrf6VFCqF (news.softpedia.com)Feb 08 10:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in the Solus 1.1 Linux Operating SystemFeb 08 10:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android-x86 4.4-r5 Might Be the Last Release inFeb 08 10:17
TweetTuxMachines                 the Android 4.4 “KitKat” SeriesFeb 08 10:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-x86 4.4-r5 Might Be the Last Release in the Android 4.4 "KitKat" SeriesFeb 08 10:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical and Spain's BQ team to put Ubuntu onFeb 08 10:17
TweetTuxMachines                 a tablet https://t.co/RoHdUkX2QrFeb 08 10:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Feb 08 10:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Canonical and Spain's BQ team to put Ubuntu on a tablet • The RegisterFeb 08 10:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Ken's love of programming eventually led to aFeb 08 10:17
TweetTuxMachines                 job at Canonical, and then he learned about theFeb 08 10:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Kramden Institute." https://t.co/cWOrxZnLaNFeb 08 10:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Kramden helps bridge the digital divide in North Carolina communities | Opensource.comFeb 08 10:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.interaksyon.com | Red Hat hosts Philippine forum to promote open source technology | Infotek News: InterAksyon.comFeb 08 10:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why I fought for open source in the Air ForceFeb 08 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KVJYbzGvyZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 10:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why I fought for open source in the Air Force | Tux MachinesFeb 08 10:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in theFeb 08 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus 1.1 Linux Operating SystemFeb 08 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K4Yhf5Sxjy (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 10:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in the Solus 1.1 Linux Operating System | Tux MachinesFeb 08 10:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Git 2.7 Gets Its First Point Release, Adds overFeb 08 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 20 Optimizations and FixesFeb 08 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mgCJmx3ans (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 10:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohsz7Feb 08 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.7 Gets Its First Point Release, Adds over 20 Optimizations and Fixes | Tux MachinesFeb 08 10:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agonarch/status/696656041317167104Feb 08 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agonarch: @schestowitz @zoobab With more conservative publishing or peer review TR would make huge impact. Btw: Why haven't you fixed your CSS theme?Feb 08 11:26
schestowitzWhat needs fixing in CSS?Feb 08 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/3LklCwyeBCFeb 08 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 11:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oht43Feb 08 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux MachinesFeb 08 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat News https://t.co/Ebkr0rxlazFeb 08 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 11:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oht44Feb 08 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux MachinesFeb 08 11:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.5 RC3 https://t.co/m4NSrQQU5c https://t.co/c8mWx7zsNx https://t.co/vjsAXXiHAX'Feb 08 11:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in...'Feb 08 11:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Android-x86 4.4-r5 Might Be the Last Release in...'Feb 08 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 4.5-rc3Feb 08 11:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Here's a Sneak Peek at What's Coming in...'Feb 08 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.5-rc3 Kernel Released & Has Fixes For AMDGPU - PhoronixFeb 08 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Releases a "Slightly Bigger than Expected" Linux Kernel 4.5 RC3Feb 08 11:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agonarch/status/696658565344448512Feb 08 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agonarch: @schestowitz @zoobab This overlayed shadow image. Either align it properly to the right or get rid off it. ;) https://t.co/npP7iEfnnkFeb 08 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agonarch: @schestowitz @zoobab This overlayed shadow image. Either align it properly to the right or get rid off it. ;) https://t.co/npP7iEfnnkFeb 08 11:36
schestowitzThis boils down to taste, I guess. This design is part of the original, which I lated modified.Feb 08 11:37
schestowitz*laterFeb 08 11:37
cubexyzoiaohm, if you're still around... I tried everything to get the cdrom on the PCI IDE/SATA card to bootFeb 08 11:39
cubexyzit's chipset is VT642Feb 08 11:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/696662482174275584Feb 08 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @agonarch @schestowitz it looks crap for years. Just pick another nice looking wordpress theme, it will be faster and cheaper.Feb 08 11:53
schestowitzit's a matter of taste, and consistency across the site, preserving old layouts tooFeb 08 11:53
oiaohmcubexyz: there are differences between cards.   Some PCI IDE/SATA and boot ones some are not.   I guess that one does not have a firmware block to add it self to the bios.Feb 08 12:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DavidBrooke_IP/status/696664775963643904Feb 08 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DavidBrooke_IP: @schestowitz what about Sanders?Feb 08 12:41
schestowitzI don't think he'd be loyal to corporations/corporate pressure where it's a disservice to public interests. Same with Corbyn.Feb 08 12:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IP_Meldrew/status/696665259596238848Feb 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IP_Meldrew: What proof is there that it was in spite of patents? https://t.co/dEzsItfD21Feb 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @IP_Meldrew In spite of patentsFeb 08 12:42
schestowitzA lot of innovation happened without patentsFeb 08 12:42
schestowitzIncluding, famously, the Internet and WWWFeb 08 12:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/aral/status/696667440252653568Feb 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aral: “Assange’s continued confinement…constitutes…knowing and intentional commission of several prosecutable war crimes.” https://t.co/fQ4RCax7jOFeb 08 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Sweden and the UK have served and continue to serve as proxies for the United States in its pursuit of Assange" https://t.co/DHio8m9SufFeb 08 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System interviewFeb 08 13:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cGqWZyL32g (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 13:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtezFeb 08 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System interview | Tux MachinesFeb 08 13:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 8/2/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 2, Q4OS 1.4.7Feb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PyC8FyMBYY (techrights.org)Feb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtf0Feb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/S0memB175MFeb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtf1Feb 08 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/2/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 2, Q4OS 1.4.7 | TechrightsFeb 08 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/V35yjHku8tFeb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtf2Feb 08 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME and KDE https://t.co/Iy2EggoBeOFeb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 13:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtf3Feb 08 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and KDE | Tux MachinesFeb 08 13:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/cv3rPiWIt1Feb 08 15:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 15:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtpsFeb 08 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 08 15:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LOHAN entertains the crowd at Oz Linux shindigFeb 08 15:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/E5tMw7ynRw (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 15:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtptFeb 08 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LOHAN entertains the crowd at Oz Linux shindig | Tux MachinesFeb 08 15:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Go(lang) meets Fedora https://t.co/CwKauTFeVDFeb 08 15:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 08 15:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtpuFeb 08 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go(lang) meets Fedora | Tux MachinesFeb 08 15:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 8/2/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 2, Q4OS 1.4.7Feb 08 15:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/PyC8FyMBYY (techrights.org)Feb 08 15:05
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 08 15:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohtpvFeb 08 15:05
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/eUcTHkpFeb 08 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Carnival float in Düsseldorf, Germany - ImgurFeb 08 15:10
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012Feb 08 20:27
schestowitz> http://blog.jdpfu.com/2016/02/07/sorry-ec2-amazon-visitorsFeb 08 20:33
schestowitz> Feb 08 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jdpfu.com | Sorry EC2 Amazon Visitors | JDPFu.com 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/ohugy ]Feb 08 20:34
schestowitz> spiders?Feb 08 20:34
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/06/28/aws-ddos/Feb 08 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Amazon AWS Used for DDOS Attacks Against My Web Sites, Amazon Takes 14 Hours to Reply But Not Take Action (Updatedx5) [ http://ur1.ca/mzb2g ]Feb 08 20:34
XRevan86schestowitz: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1353ec80b0080133094c6e81d42d71a6 %)Feb 08 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?Feb 08 21:06
schestowitzXRevan86: what's the ending of that url?Feb 08 21:08
schestowitzOh, I see...Feb 08 21:09
schestowitz"you do ?"Feb 08 21:09
schestowitzI don'tFeb 08 21:09
XRevan86schestowitz: I know. Autoreposting to Diaspora* can be confusing.Feb 08 21:09
XRevan86schestowitz: It is auto-, right?Feb 08 21:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/696669844855517185Feb 08 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Cp2102 USB serial controlling a relay to power on/off a Bananapi, plus accessing its serial console #sunxi https://t.co/2RvI8cjCkDFeb 08 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Cp2102 USB serial controlling a relay to power on/off a Bananapi, plus accessing its serial console #sunxi https://t.co/2RvI8cjCkDFeb 08 21:22
schestowitzXRevan86: what does it mean?>Feb 08 21:23
XRevan86schestowitz: Do you use some sort of script to get things into Diaspora*?Feb 08 21:23
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schestowitznoFeb 08 21:33
schestowitzThat's where I post everythingFeb 08 21:33
schestowitzfrom there is passed to TwitterFeb 08 21:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/696824782059409408Feb 08 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz the worst is when you tap a Twitter link and the page opens and switches to App Store in #ios urging you to install an app!Feb 08 22:38
schestowitzsame in Android (even old versions)Feb 08 22:38
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schestowitzhttp://jackofkent.com/2016/02/the-prisons-policy-of-a-mischivious-demon/Feb 08 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jackofkent.com | The prisons policy of a mischievous demon – Jack of Kent blogFeb 08 23:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Long Term Support vs Rolling Linux ReleaseFeb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/l1MRYi3BHc (www.datamation.com)Feb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohupmFeb 08 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Long Term Support vs Rolling Linux Release - DatamationFeb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers GroveFeb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines                 I/O  https://t.co/2TltMdK1Jp (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 08 23:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohupnFeb 08 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers Grove I/O ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 08 23:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Long Term Support vs Rolling Linux Release https://t.co/l1MRYi3BHc'Feb 08 23:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone Users Will Have to Wait a...'Feb 08 23:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://t.co/GVvEz0WbtM (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuruFeb 08 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux.Conf.Au 2016 Videos Now Online - PhoronixFeb 08 23:50
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'https://t.co/GVvEz0WbtM'Feb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LCA 2016 Videos Now OnlineFeb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GVvEz0WbtM (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohurvFeb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 6 Marshmallow update: when can I getFeb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines                 it? https://t.co/I5YuVrXQQ1 (www.techradar.com)Feb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohurwFeb 08 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | Android 6 Marshmallow update: when can I get it? | TechRadarFeb 08 23:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast,Feb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Fully-Free-Software WorkstationFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mMaIUJS4Ku (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohusgFeb 08 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast, Fully-Free-Software Workstation - PhoronixFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gas Guzzlers Extreme looks like it is going toFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 come to Linux, porting starts soonFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hl3BQ7cuh9 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuskFeb 08 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Gas Guzzlers Extreme looks like it is going to come to Linux, porting starts soon | GamingOnLinuxFeb 08 23:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unvanquished Alpha 48 Released, One Step CloserFeb 08 23:55
TweetTuxMachines                 To Beta https://t.co/gD4NkFkmpRFeb 08 23:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 08 23:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuslFeb 08 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unvanquished Alpha 48 Released, One Step Closer To Beta - PhoronixFeb 08 23:55
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/hFF75hK.jpgFeb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiplayer indie action game 'Super SnowFeb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Fight' may get a Linux version if there isFeb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines                 enough demand https://t.co/ElCMb4uQ3jFeb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohut9Feb 08 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Multiplayer indie action game 'Super Snow Fight' may get a Linux version if there is enough demand | GamingOnLinuxFeb 08 23:59
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Multiplayer indie action game 'Super Snow Fight' may...'Feb 08 23:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lossless Compression Brings Possible SpeedupsFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines                 To Skylake Linux Mesa DriverFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LCacl6Uvm7 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohutmFeb 09 00:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lossless Compression Brings Possible Speedups To Skylake Linux Mesa Driver - PhoronixFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers GroveFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines                 I/O https://t.co/Po4f24jonqFeb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohutnFeb 09 00:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino Yun clone runs OpenWrt, offers Grove I/O | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails 2.0 https://t.co/91eTnKnC1O (error)Feb 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohutpFeb 09 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 2.0 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s How Windows 10 ‘Spying’ Forced A User ToFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Switch To Linux Mint On His ComputerFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9FzG2SJ8GV (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuu5Feb 09 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s How Windows 10 ‘Spying’ Forced A User To Switch To Linux Mint On His Computer | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Schedule Tasks with CronFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DFW6ePi4Ae (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuu6Feb 09 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Schedule Tasks with Cron | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast,Feb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Fully-Free-Software WorkstationFeb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bCYrbIrHVs (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuu7Feb 09 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast, Fully-Free-Software Workstation | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:05
*TweetTuxMachines @CapitalOfficeF favourited 'For $3100 USD You Can Have A Fast,...'Feb 09 00:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 8/2/2016: Vista 10 Nags Help GNU/Linux,Feb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Nautilus UpdatedFeb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/u9mO3ib8Eh (techrights.org)Feb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuzeFeb 09 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/2/2016: Vista 10 Nags Help GNU/Linux, Nautilus Updated | TechrightsFeb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/gTvr0XbiLfFeb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuzfFeb 09 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:51
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 8/2/2016: Vista 10 Nags Help GNU/Linux, Nautilus...'Feb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/8fccY6ch1ZFeb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuziFeb 09 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/X9aQ5vZ31PFeb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 00:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohuzjFeb 09 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 09 00:52
MinceRhttp://i2.wp.com/www.bugmartini.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-01-29-The-Matrix-Trumpolutions.pngFeb 09 00:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel Space: Linux, GraphicsFeb 09 01:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g7vf3uepZ8 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 01:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0jFeb 09 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: Linux, Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 09 01:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/7GTDssjMCdFeb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0kFeb 09 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/YB6nhm2ZQIFeb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 01:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0lFeb 09 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 01:01
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/rGPfwFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Glide app brings #Jetsons vibe to AndroidFeb 09 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | When you realize why you hate someone. - Album on ImgurFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 smart watches https://t.co/mMN2ASxWCyFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.timesofisrael.com) #android #linuxFeb 09 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timesofisrael.com | Glide app brings Jetsons vibe to Android smart watches | The Times of IsraelFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0pFeb 09 01:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Report: Google to launch a Gear VR competitor,Feb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 build VR into Android OSFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3uJJCKixtq (arstechnica.com)Feb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 #android #linux #vrFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0xFeb 09 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Report: Google to launch a Gear VR competitor, build VR into Android OS | Ars TechnicaFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Swapnil Bhartiya’s #ArchLinux guideFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rl4qzRtL5n (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0yFeb 09 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Swapnil Bhartiya's Arch Linux guide | Tux MachinesFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Best #Recipe Manager for #AndroidFeb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KkibdQllSN (lifehacker.com)Feb 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohv0zFeb 09 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | The Best Recipe Manager for AndroidFeb 09 01:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/gTvr0XbiLfFeb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  Feb 09 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvemFeb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Swapnil Bhartiya's Arch Linux guideFeb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Uc1J6uNg89 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 03:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvepFeb 09 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Swapnil Bhartiya's Arch Linux guide | Tux MachinesFeb 09 03:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exton|OS Light Is One of the First LinuxFeb 09 03:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 09 03:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Xajr49mLnk (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 03:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvgwFeb 09 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exton|OS Light Is One of the First Linux Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux MachinesFeb 09 03:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet EditorFeb 09 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, MoreFeb 09 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2K8xit8Blb (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 07:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohvysFeb 09 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet Editor Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, More | Tux MachinesFeb 09 07:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/YB6nhm2ZQIFeb 09 09:49
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 09:49
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 09 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwa1Feb 09 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Reproducible builds: week 41 in Stretch cycle Feb 09 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T9fhf9icyI (people.debian.org)Feb 09 10:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://people.debian.org/~lunar/blog/posts/reproducible_builds_stretch_week_41/ )Feb 09 10:02
schestowitzRe: tough oneFeb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Its good about Spanish translations have made it into sites that show up inFeb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Google. ThanksFeb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Saturday I did send you the number 50 since the begining of the year:Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> [edik@mybox ~]$ ll -tr  techrights/ | wc -lFeb 09 10:22
schestowitz> 51Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> I will start a couple of classes but I'll try to keep up as much as I can.Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Here it goes 51!Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz> Have a nice TuesdayFeb 09 10:22
schestowitzThe number of patent lawyers reading my site (to understand 'the other side') seems to have grown a lot. We change their views on these subject or illuminate them.Feb 09 10:22
schestowitz# ¿Qué_esta_mal_con_la_OEP? #last part of urlFeb 09 10:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Developer Experience Hackfest 2016Feb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yswsMPTlDH (blogs.gnome.org)Feb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwi6Feb 09 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/2016/02/08/developer-experience-hackfest-2016/ )Feb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Opinion: BlackBerry PRIV’s bloatware makesFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Android better [Video] https://t.co/bUsBJIbayjFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (9to5google.com)Feb 09 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9to5google.com | Opinion: BlackBerry PRIV’s bloatware makes Android better [Video] | 9to5GoogleFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwi7Feb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/qnfCmBd2BEFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwi9Feb 09 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 09 11:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exton|OS Light Is One of the First LinuxFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XSsRqjmayB (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwifFeb 09 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Light Is One of the First Linux Distributions Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet EditorFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, MoreFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iWRXP9Aw4i (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwigFeb 09 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet Editor Has ODF Roundtrip Fixes, MoreFeb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can a $50 Android tablet be any good?Feb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/obWm2uaYu5 (www.technobuffalo.com)Feb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwihFeb 09 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | Can a $50 Android tablet be any good?Feb 09 11:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical reckons Android phone-makers willFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                 switch to Ubuntu https://t.co/TIRVVmGRPVFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Feb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwkgFeb 09 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Canonical reckons Android phone-makers will switch to Ubuntu • The RegisterFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Firefox 44.0.1 Patches Graphics StartupFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Crashes on Linux, Adds Gecko SDKFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/vNXsfEdecx (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwkhFeb 09 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Mozilla Firefox 44.0.1 Patches Graphics Startup Crashes on Linux, Adds Gecko SDKFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here Is My Linux 4.5-rc3 Kernel Spin WithFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                 AMDGPU PowerPlay & CIK EnabledFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PH7YrxJWwm (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwkiFeb 09 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Here Is My Linux 4.5-rc3 Kernel Spin With AMDGPU PowerPlay & CIK Enabled - PhoronixFeb 09 11:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackel 4.14.14 kde beta1 has been releasedFeb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CWQ9aOG5v3 (www.slackel.gr)Feb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwm3Feb 09 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slackel.gr | .:Slackel - Hellenic Linux Distribution::.Feb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk CloningFeb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Live CD Is Available for DownloadFeb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/Zj4TlPySo8 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwm5Feb 09 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live CD Is Available for DownloadFeb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 open source tools for Linux system monitoringFeb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cbalrk9Yz3 (opensource.com)Feb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwm6Feb 09 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | 4 system monitoring tools for Linux | Opensource.comFeb 09 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora Infrastructure – Year In ReviewFeb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/O9aX294pGDFeb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)Feb 09 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch Could Finally Get Selfie StickFeb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Support in OTA 10 https://t.co/nEQGeKTqFOFeb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwmbFeb 09 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Could Finally Get Selfie Stick Support in OTA 10Feb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making,Feb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Here's What Works https://t.co/uimKXATxjCFeb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 11:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwmcFeb 09 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making, Here's What WorksFeb 09 11:42
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the...'Feb 09 11:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Firefox 44.0.1 Patches Graphics Startup Crashes on...'Feb 09 11:43
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gnumeric 1.12.27 Open Source Spreadsheet Editor Has ODF...'Feb 09 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ubuntu development: Long time no Snappy ClinicFeb 09 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ghN6ueXCTP (daniel.holba.ch)Feb 09 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/92ltA89G8R (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 11:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwmqFeb 09 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daniel.holba.ch | Long time no Snappy Clinic – Daniel Holbach's blogFeb 09 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Get Acquainted with the Latest Snapcraft 2 Features on February's Snappy ClinicFeb 09 11:47
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'ubuntu development: Long time no Snappy Clinic https://t.co/ghN6ueXCTP...'Feb 09 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux 10 "Xfce" Screencast andFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Screenshots  https://t.co/40HtYQnc3dFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org) new releaseFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/U2RWX2SXli (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwnhFeb 09 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | MakuluLinux 10 "Xfce" Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 09 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MakuluLinux 10 Xfce Edition Is Now Live and Does Not Disappoint, Says the DevFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Linux, GraphicsFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6Ty5SiT3O4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwnjFeb 09 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Linux, Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 open source tools for Linux system monitoringFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HrmW7CMEMv (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwnkFeb 09 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 open source tools for Linux system monitoring | Tux MachinesFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk CloningFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Live CD Is Available for DownloadFeb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kXM02Bcg0Z (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 11:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwnlFeb 09 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live CD Is Available for Download | Tux MachinesFeb 09 11:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making,Feb 09 13:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Here's What Works https://t.co/U3C1sbUefWFeb 09 13:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 13:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwy8Feb 09 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Port Is in the Making, Here's What Works | Tux MachinesFeb 09 13:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Long time no Snappy ClinicFeb 09 13:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/36ehH3ywCh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 13:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohwy9Feb 09 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Long time no Snappy Clinic | Tux MachinesFeb 09 13:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mesfin_Haile/status/697059299130998785Feb 09 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mesfin_Haile: @schestowitz @glynmoody who wants to lead failing economies, when politicians are Jesuit trained to do follyFeb 09 14:39
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697068695915462656   https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/697069051869319169Feb 09 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz @glynmoody I hear the administrative council are asking advice from senior judges. Conference at the end of February I think.Feb 09 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @Twpalovi @schestowitz interesting - thanksFeb 09 14:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, Someone I know "got Windows 10", as in he was running Windows 7 and then Microsoft marked 10 as a recommended update, which Windows 7 treats as urgent updates by default.Feb 09 15:10
DaemonFCSo he goes to boot up his laptop and this "Windows failed to start correctly." thing comes up.Feb 09 15:11
DaemonFCSo he reboots, and it manages to get to the desktop after a while, but the video driver is broken and nothing from Steam runs. Feb 09 15:11
DaemonFCI wonder how typical this is.Feb 09 15:11
DaemonFCPeople never want to mess with a working system. Microsoft knows that. They push Windows 10 aggressively, and well, sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.Feb 09 15:12
DaemonFCI wonder if trying to back it out is the right answer or if something bad would happen going that direction too.Feb 09 15:13
DaemonFCI wonder how much lost productivity this will bring in macro.Feb 09 15:14
abeNd-orgi havent seen that myself yet, but all the ones ive done i did a cleanup first before running the update *shrug*Feb 09 15:17
abeNd-orgheck one of my dad's machines went from vista/8/8.1/10 & somehow it is still kickingFeb 09 15:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft's Copyrights- and Patents-BasedFeb 09 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry onFeb 09 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4CVK19qEoR (techrights.org)Feb 09 15:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohxi2Feb 09 15:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An open source fix leads to a new career in ITFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pW8m6KIDIK (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohxi4Feb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. NowFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Watch Him Do the Same With AIFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K8BYpvxZ2m (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohxi6Feb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tunir 0.13 is released and one year ofFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 development https://t.co/JURtDEWM1aFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohxi7Feb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releasesFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/X2WzettVoW (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohxi8Feb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpetsFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 code contributions from across 30 founderFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 members https://t.co/gEaKEcdD5IFeb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 15:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohxiaFeb 09 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on | TechrightsFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An open source fix leads to a new career in IT | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. Now Watch Him Do the Same With AI | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tunir 0.13 is released and one year of development | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releases | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpets code contributions from across 30 founder members | Tux MachinesFeb 09 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All SupportedFeb 09 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/vwep7aVLgGFeb 09 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 16:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohxr3Feb 09 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux MachinesFeb 09 16:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft's Copyrights- and Patents-BasedFeb 09 16:43
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry onFeb 09 16:43
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/4CVK19qEoR (techrights.org)Feb 09 16:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohxnnFeb 09 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on | TechrightsFeb 09 16:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7025157Feb 09 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hillary Clinton’s Populist Charade http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/08/hillary-clintons-populist-charade/ not just working for Wall Street but also a good liar. #clintonFeb 09 16:56
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schestowitz"It stops as soon as the primary is over, then she tries to be more conservative than the repugs"Feb 09 16:56
schestowitzMaybe she can defect to GOP and the mask will fall :-)Feb 09 16:57
abeNd-orgplease, no more clintons or bushs....Feb 09 17:02
abeNd-org"Whoever wins... We lose."Feb 09 17:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697026559765393409Feb 09 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @pinkbike that would be great if you could explain what's new about Stan ZTR Flow rims https://t.co/31Vy20D83cFeb 09 17:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/ddpihAvLzjFeb 09 17:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 17:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 17:09
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/ddpihAvLzj'Feb 09 17:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/696975571918655488Feb 09 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: 20 years of decleration of Independence of cyberspace, and the internet is still too easy to censor, even TOR can be DDOSed #eff @jpbarlowFeb 09 17:14
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 17:20
schestowitz"Feb 09 17:20
schestowitzMy favorite part is when I am forced to manually strip the :s out of file names that a TV recording app produces, because FAT32 (which is all that many Android devices can support on SD cards for some reason) does not allow them.Feb 09 17:20
schestowitzThat, or the 4 GB file size limit.Feb 09 17:20
schestowitz"Feb 09 17:20
schestowitz"But I was told Microsoft was our friend now..."Feb 09 17:20
MinceRwith friends like that, who needs enemies?Feb 09 17:21
schestowitzexactlyFeb 09 17:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/697115930011295744Feb 09 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Obama signs two executive orders on cybersecurity @schestowitz https://t.co/fKaqTC0AEIFeb 09 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.usatoday.com | Obama signs two executive orders on cybersecurityFeb 09 18:09
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 18:11
schestowitz"And I was told I was paranoid for not believing them!"Feb 09 18:11
schestowitz"I would just feel such a cunt doing that job."Feb 09 18:11
schestowitz"This is not about copyright, this is about Microsoft patenting software. That's, ofc, impossible in theory, but American patent system works under assumption that anything can be patented until someone objects it, so Microsoft holds patents to stuff like "storing long and short filename" or "double click". EU companies like TomTom are free to "violate" such nonsensical patents as long as they stay in EU, but once they try to do business in Feb 09 18:12
schestowitzUSA, M$ lawyer knocks on their doors and makes offer that cannot be refused. Well, it can be, in theory, but have fun trying to win patent lawsuit against Microsot..."Feb 09 18:12
schestowitz"Feb 09 18:12
schestowitz    Well, it can be, in theory, but have fun trying to win patent lawsuit against Microsoft...Feb 09 18:12
schestowitzYeah, 10 years, several appeals, and millions of dollars later.... This is just an absurd situation.Feb 09 18:12
schestowitz"Feb 09 18:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/yq0xQJvNTWFeb 09 18:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 18:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 09 18:14
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/yq0xQJvNTW'Feb 09 18:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026080Feb 09 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A bunch of politicians who know zilch about mass #surveillance and are misled by spying profiteers make 'errors' again http://www.itpro.co.uk/public-sector/26015/snooper-s-charter-fails-to-protect-privacy-warn-mpsFeb 09 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itpro.co.uk | Snooper’s Charter fails to protect privacy, warn MPs | IT PRO [ http://ur1.ca/ohyac ]Feb 09 18:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A new frontier for open source: Linux willFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 power our robotic futureFeb 09 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | A new frontier for open source: Linux will power our robotic future | ZDNetFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An open source fix leads to a new career in ITFeb 09 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | My Linux Story: Tim College | Opensource.comFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Andy Rubin Unleashed Android on the World. NowFeb 09 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Watch Him Do the Same With AIFeb 09 18:19
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schestowitzMicrosoft apologist:Feb 09 18:24
schestowitz"Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzYeah that's what I don't get, MS isn't unique or even particularly egregious in its use of the patent system.Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzI mean, the problem isn't that Microdollaroft are dickheads, the problem is that businesses are amoral and the American patent system is so moronic I can only assume it was invented by a five year old. Surely the way to fix it is to overhaul that system rather than writing angry opinion pieces like the OP's one? Because, yeah, under US law what they're doing is legal and within their rights.Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzI mean, Apple has been playing this game on and off for years with Android. Patent trolls crop up all the time that use the mercury-huffing retardation of the US patent system to patent crap like 'devices which use electricity' and then suing people for breaking it. Heck, to return to Apple and the idea that standards should be reasonably easy to get, they are many, many times worse than Microsoft at wrecking compatibility between their Feb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releasesFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/S9h8BYKT5K (www.zdnet.com)Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzstuff and others and answering concerns with 'lol buy our stuff'.Feb 09 18:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Raspberry Pi: New NOOBS and Raspbian releases | ZDNetFeb 09 18:24
schestowitzAll this opinion piece, and most of the other ones I've read, do is get angry at Microsoft for exercising its rights. That doesn't make them dickheads (particularly in the case of the article's "secret deal", businesses aren't required to reveal that information so why would they?) and calling them that isn't going to do anything. If a law's broken you change the law, you don't get angry at people for using it.Feb 09 18:24
schestowitz"Feb 09 18:24
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpetsFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 code contributions from across 30 founderFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 members https://t.co/6yRweYX5OHFeb 09 18:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Project trumpets code contributions from across 30 founder membersFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All SupportedFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/ozWiTO9JOXFeb 09 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 18:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Firefox 44.0.1 Now Available for All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 09 18:24
schestowitzMisses the point that I denounce not only MSFT for this kind of aggressionFeb 09 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android vendors eyeing Ubuntu – Canonical chiefFeb 09 19:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobileworldlive.com | Android vendors eyeing Ubuntu – Canonical chief - Mobile World LiveFeb 09 19:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/697146880216670208Feb 09 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: Amén too that ;) https://t.co/sLlQjByIWsFeb 09 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #internet as a free, emancipating, open expression platform is in a state of demise. Pressing "like" on #facebook "causes" isn't progress.Feb 09 19:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora 23 'Coral' Linux distro is finally hereFeb 09 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 -- Fedora for the rest of usFeb 09 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/upNh0ecPFa (betanews.com)Feb 09 20:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Korora 23 'Coral' Linux distro is finally here -- Fedora for the rest of usFeb 09 20:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KShutdown Review - Scheduled Shutdown,Feb 09 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Restarts, and Other Actions on LinuxFeb 09 20:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softpedia.com | KShutdown Review - Scheduled Shutdown, Restarts, and Other Actions on LinuxFeb 09 20:05
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 20:14
schestowitz"Feb 09 20:14
schestowitzIn that case, I will love Microsoft the moment they jettison their legal department. Just let me know.Feb 09 20:14
schestowitzMicrosoft functions as a large unit, you can't just look at only the engineering part.Feb 09 20:15
schestowitz"Feb 09 20:15
schestowitz"Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Saviour ZFS?"Feb 09 20:15
schestowitz"We just need to create the monopoly with our own superior formats, protocols, etc. In many places, that is happening. Microsoft (and apple) has certainly put computing back a few decades, though."Feb 09 20:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland Live OS Is Now Based On #DebianFeb 09 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Testing, Working #KDE #Wayland SupportFeb 09 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g1u6l23cfb (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 20:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland Live OS Is Now Based On Debian Testing, Working KDE Wayland Support - PhoronixFeb 09 20:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspbian Now Ships With Experimental SupportFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 For The New VC4 OpenGL DriverFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hig0QjXUi1 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 20:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Raspbian Now Ships With Experimental Support For The New VC4 OpenGL Driver - PhoronixFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best AndroidFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 tablet you can get under $200Feb 09 20:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best Android tablet you can get under $200 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian-based Raspbian and RebeccaBlackOSFeb 09 20:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-based Raspbian and RebeccaBlackOS | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 Truths About Working on a Community ProjectFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Inside an Open Source CompanyFeb 09 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Truths About Working on a Community Project Inside an Open Source Company | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora 23 https://t.co/kUSsvlHJaeFeb 09 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Korora 23 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large LinuxFeb 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Workloads with IntegrityFeb 09 20:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Twelve robots that run LinuxFeb 09 21:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Twelve robots that run Linux | ZDNetFeb 09 21:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dying Light: The Following - Enhanced EditionFeb 09 21:19
TweetTuxMachines                 now available for Linux, texture issuesFeb 09 21:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Dying Light: The Following - Enhanced Edition now available for Linux, texture issues | GamingOnLinuxFeb 09 21:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firewatch, a first person mystery adventureFeb 09 21:38
TweetTuxMachines                 game released for Linux & SteamOSFeb 09 21:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Firewatch, a first person mystery adventure game released for Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 09 21:38
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44xgx7/microsofts_copyrights_and_patentsbased_attacks_on/Feb 09 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on GNU/Linux Carry on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohxy7 ]Feb 09 21:40
schestowitz"They're lawyers, they don't have such thing as a conscience."Feb 09 21:41
schestowitz"The problems with Microsft are mostly lawyers and managers, afaik :("Feb 09 21:41
schestowitz"Nah, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's true. If the company wants to portray a certain image, somebody in the company certainly has the power to make that happen. What this tells me is that nobody in management actually cares or is interested in being friendly towards FOSS."Feb 09 21:41
schestowitz"Actually Microsoft is an interesting case study in adversarial departments, it doesn't function as a large unit so much as management unit riding herd on dozens of opposed project teams. It's never so blatantly obvious as when you set up Microsoft infrastructure, where it becomes utterly apparent that no one who built the software had anything to do with the people who decide which features are billable."Feb 09 21:41
schestowitz"Do it before hand. Inodes take space, it's understandable they aren't infinite. But it should be automatic."Feb 09 21:41
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44pzah/the_situation_of_discord_between_rlinux_moderators/Feb 09 21:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 - See What's NewFeb 09 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Desktop Survey Project - Feb/2016 >Feb 09 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Following KDE's "Simple by default, powerfulFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 when needed" design mantra, settings are split"Feb 09 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.kde.org | HIG about Simple vs. Advanced Settings | blogs.kde.orgFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions OfFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 2015 https://t.co/uOPkwFAazVFeb 09 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions Of 2015 | Tux MachinesFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Money In Open-Source SoftwareFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1uu9kM4YAm (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Money In Open-Source Software | Tux MachinesFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux or GNU/Linux – Here is What Every UserFeb 09 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Should Know. https://t.co/Er8UF0C79VFeb 09 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux or GNU/Linux – Here is What Every User Should Know. | Tux MachinesFeb 09 22:08
cubexyzAndroid uses libc from BSD? I didn't know thatFeb 09 22:10
cubexyzstandard C library bionic, with BSD licenseFeb 09 22:13
cubexyzok, there was one "distro" before Yggdrasil called MCC Interim LinuxFeb 09 22:15
cubexyzand primitive floppy disk images before thatFeb 09 22:16
cubexyzalso SLS (Softlanding Linux System) deserves a mentionFeb 09 22:17
cubexyzand SLS was before both Yggdrasil and MCCFeb 09 22:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Upgrading Bios Firmware from Linux SystemsFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Pioneered by Dell https://t.co/C2NL15OjNIFeb 09 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed intoFeb 09 22:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and MouseFeb 09 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     WOW, Wayland Over Wire! https://t.co/iGiorxzYcHFeb 09 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland Network Transparency Patches PublishedFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rUkYs4nJ2m (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 22:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland Network Transparency Patches Published - PhoronixFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NVIDIA 361.28 Linux Driver Released, MakesFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 GLVND Optional https://t.co/j9QPI4lXcmFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 09 22:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "exciting for anyone who wants a stable coreFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 system with a setup of KDE Plasma software onFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 to as recent as possible"Feb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eR5FcGFEb7 (notmart.org)Feb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzrmFeb 09 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-notmart.org | Some Neon Artwork | MartFeb 09 22:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best AndroidFeb 09 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 tablet you can get under $200Feb 09 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jYj8uoqHyU (www.cio.com)Feb 09 22:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzscFeb 09 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Nvidia's Shield tablet K1: The best Android tablet you can get under $200 | CIOFeb 09 22:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large LinuxFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Workloads with Integrity Feb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/71UUEzIgbI (www.serverwatch.com)Feb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzsdFeb 09 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.serverwatch.com | Hewlett Packard Enterprise Scales Large Linux Workloads with IntegrityFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core: quick screenshot tourFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9Yau3ucBctFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxblog.darkduck.com)Feb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzseFeb 09 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Zorin OS 11 Core: quick screenshot tour - Linux notes from DarkDuckFeb 09 22:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions OfFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 2015 https://t.co/v2e2R6vcBxFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Feb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohztmFeb 09 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Analysis Of The Top 10 Linux Distributions Of 2015 « Everyday Linux UserFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed intoFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and MouseFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/O4psO8RKH4 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohztnFeb 09 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed into Mini PCs, with a Keyboard and MouseFeb 09 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation’s Core InfrastructureFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Initiative Working with White House onFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Cybersecurity National Action PlanFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K8hOXHr5il (www.linux.com)Feb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohztoFeb 09 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan | Linux.comFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 SupportsFeb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian 8.3 and Linux Mint 17.3Feb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CQvnOdAVi6 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohztpFeb 09 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 Supports Debian 8.3 and Linux Mint 17.3Feb 09 22:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny, rugged Bay Trail COM has wide-range powerFeb 09 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PUFb5BUxaS (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 09 22:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzu7Feb 09 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tiny, rugged Bay Trail COM has wide-range power ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 09 22:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 Supports Debian...'Feb 09 22:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed into Mini...'Feb 09 22:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 & Nvidia - Are we gonna have a goodFeb 09 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 time?  https://t.co/3AajuZLJanFeb 09 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dedoimedo.com)Feb 09 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Fedora 23 & Nvidia - Are we gonna have a good time?Feb 09 23:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohzwqFeb 09 23:02
*TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'HP Linux Imaging and Printing 3.16.2 Supports Debian...'Feb 09 23:02
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phones Can Be Easily Transformed into Mini...'Feb 09 23:02
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Upgrading Bios Firmware from Linux Systems Pioneered by...'Feb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review of XCOM 2 On Linux; Welcome Back,Feb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Commander https://t.co/2j0mRBxRHWFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) Tweaking PerformanceFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EfD1bJNzrf (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 09 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Review of XCOM 2 On Linux; Welcome Back, Commander - PhoronixFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi015Feb 09 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Tweaking Performance in XCOM 2 | GamingOnLinuxFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to FixFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 the Infamous Mir Bug, Says CanonicalFeb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9Ex5O9r7mw (news.softpedia.com)Feb 09 23:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi016Feb 09 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to Fix the Infamous Mir Bug, Says CanonicalFeb 09 23:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to...'Feb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation’s Core InfrastructureFeb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Initiative Working with White House onFeb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Cybersecurity National Action PlanFeb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2DXOickfWb (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi022Feb 09 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan | Tux MachinesFeb 09 23:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leaner Docker https://t.co/CLY9A6M6kuFeb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi05zFeb 09 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leaner Docker | Tux MachinesFeb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to FixFeb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines                 the Infamous Mir Bug, Says CanonicalFeb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZwFpDpFV6p (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 09 23:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi060Feb 09 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to Fix the Infamous Mir Bug, Says Canonical | Tux MachinesFeb 09 23:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New Ubuntu Phone Patch Is Coming Soon to...'Feb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     InstallParty Phnom Penh https://t.co/L3enLskiszFeb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (karl-tux-stadt.de)Feb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi092Feb 10 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-karl-tux-stadt.de | Karl-Tux-Stadt » Blog Archi » InstallParty Phnom PenhFeb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Studio 2.0 beta speeds up app restartsFeb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/80LPs8kqyg (www.infoworld.com)Feb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi093Feb 10 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Android Studio 2.0 beta speeds up app restarts | InfoWorldFeb 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Updates on GNOME CalculatorFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/RUF9kTtajGFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (siliconislandblog.wordpress.com)Feb 10 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconislandblog.wordpress.com | Updates on GNOME Calculator – Silicon IslandFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0e3Feb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/2A0GRf5M2jFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0e4Feb 10 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for NewcomersFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                 to Discover the Ubuntu FlavoursFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XkilJqcjlP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0e5Feb 10 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers to Discover the Ubuntu Flavours | Tux MachinesFeb 10 00:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/tRZk0GF5u6Feb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0eqFeb 10 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, HasFeb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Been Updated to Version 2.0.5Feb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9JXbgxcqZ7 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0erFeb 10 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has Been Updated to Version 2.0.5 | Tux MachinesFeb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/QmnTQ0cVRmFeb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0esFeb 10 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 10 01:01
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers...'Feb 10 01:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juventudrebelde.cu | Suscribirán oficinas de patentes memorando de entendimiento - Cuba - Juventud Rebelde - Diario de la juventud cubana [ http://ur1.ca/oi0gq ]Feb 10 01:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.granma.cu | Visita a Cuba presidente de la Oficina Europea de Patentes › Cuba › Granma - Órgano oficial del PCC [ http://ur1.ca/oi0gr ]Feb 10 01:15
One_Cuban patents filed at the EPO in 2014: 7!Feb 10 01:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has...'Feb 10 01:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 9/2/2016: Linux in Robotics, HyperledgerFeb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Project https://t.co/0HtR172Qf8Feb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mfFeb 10 01:52
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 9/2/2016: Linux in Robotics, Hyperledger Project https://t.co/0HtR172Qf8'Feb 10 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/2/2016: Linux in Robotics, Hyperledger Project | TechrightsFeb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PlaybackPopover and Music viewsFeb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2VDABfem0D (jordanaluft.com)Feb 10 01:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mgFeb 10 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jordanaluft.com | PlaybackPopover and Music views – Jordana LuftFeb 10 01:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for NewcomersFeb 10 01:53
TweetTuxMachines                 to Discover the Ubuntu FlavoursFeb 10 01:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/g8X9mR9qxJ (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 01:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mhFeb 10 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers to Discover the Ubuntu FlavoursFeb 10 01:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Makes It a Lot Easier for Newcomers...'Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, HasFeb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Been Updated to Version 2.0.5Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sgTnkPige7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0mtFeb 10 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has Been Updated to Version 2.0.5Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rosa Is a Real PowerhouseFeb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pb6uEJ1W19 (www.linuxinsider.com)Feb 10 01:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0muFeb 10 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Rosa Is a Real Powerhouse | Reviews | LinuxInsiderFeb 10 01:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'uGet, the Best Download Manager for Linux, Has...'Feb 10 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mentor Embedded Linux adds SMACK security andFeb 10 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 IoT support https://t.co/oGpYYGb10EFeb 10 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 10 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Mentor Embedded Linux adds SMACK security and IoT support ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 10 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi0n0Feb 10 01:57
*TweetTuxMachines @SmartHomeDB favourited 'Mentor Embedded Linux adds SMACK security and IoT...'Feb 10 02:00
*TweetTuxMachines @SmartHomeDB followed @tuxmachinesFeb 10 02:00
cubexyzOk, new blog post... this time it's about Vector Linux 7.1 Light:Feb 10 02:16
cubexyzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2016/02/vector-linux-71-light.htmlFeb 10 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.com | Notes on Linux: Vector Linux 7.1 Light [ http://ur1.ca/oi0pp ]Feb 10 02:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Firefox 46 Web Browser to Finally BringFeb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Smoother Scrolling to LinuxFeb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Dj19vmBuX7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2hdFeb 10 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mozilla Firefox 46 Web Browser to Finally Bring Smoother Scrolling to LinuxFeb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker as a High-Performance Enabler for ServerFeb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Storage https://t.co/EA0WF4rjW2Feb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.enterprisetech.com)Feb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2heFeb 10 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisetech.com | Docker as a High-Performance Enabler for Cloud StorageFeb 10 09:13
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Docker as a High-Performance Enabler for Server Storage...'Feb 10 09:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://t.co/Dj19vmBuX7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 09:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2ifFeb 10 09:18
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'https://t.co/Dj19vmBuX7'Feb 10 09:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker: “We have hired Natanael Copa, theFeb 10 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 awesome creator of Alpine Linux”Feb 10 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KVxVtuWhtS (www.pcworld.com)Feb 10 09:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2igFeb 10 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Is Docker ditching Ubuntu Linux? Confusion reigns | PCWorldFeb 10 09:19
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Firefox 46 Web Browser to Finally Bring...'Feb 10 09:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Second Rygel Media Server 0.30 Dev Release HasFeb 10 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Improvements for Samsung TVsFeb 10 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hkXq6fKARq (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2kvFeb 10 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Second Rygel Media Server 0.30 Dev Release Has Improvements for Samsung TVsFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release CandidateFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase https://t.co/8Bt3E0i43EFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2kwFeb 10 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release Candidate Phase - PhoronixFeb 10 09:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arch Anywhere – An easy way to install a fullyFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 custom Arch Linux systemFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YYAZX9peHc (www.ostechnix.com)Feb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2l5Feb 10 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ostechnix.com | Arch Anywhere – An easy way to install a fully custom Arch Linux system | OSTechNixFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian-Based RebeccaBlackOS Wayland Live CDFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Gets the Enlightenment 0.20 DesktopFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yC0INCaUOu (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2l6Feb 10 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based RebeccaBlackOS Wayland Live CD Gets the Enlightenment 0.20 Desktop | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release CandidateFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase https://t.co/8gMabfKC0MFeb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2l7Feb 10 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wayland & Weston 1.10 Up To Release Candidate Phase | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OSFeb 10 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 adoption https://t.co/cBkn3tGcbfFeb 10 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2liFeb 10 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OS adoption | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SourceForge Loses DevShareFeb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZjaOBHchbG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2lkFeb 10 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SourceForge Loses DevShare | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turning Open Source into a Multicore StandardFeb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Bg090daaSB (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2llFeb 10 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Turning Open Source into a Multicore Standard | Tux MachinesFeb 10 09:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware Live 0.5.1, 1.0 on Its WayFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IZIakbLEcS (ostatic.com)Feb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2ntFeb 10 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Slackware Live 0.5.1, 1.0 on Its WayFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Overview of Linux Desktop EnvironmentsFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sjqNpZXJju (it.toolbox.com)Feb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2nuFeb 10 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.toolbox.com | Overview of Linux Desktop EnviornmentsFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet Zorin OS 11 – Video Overview andFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Screenshot tours  https://t.co/mK7mUeu6ZGFeb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxscoop.com)Feb 10 09:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oi2nvFeb 10 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | Meet Zorin OS 11 - Video Overview and Screenshot tours - Linux ScoopFeb 10 09:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026354Feb 10 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #internet has made people more dependent on or engaged to various entities than newspapers ever did. Can't swap things easily with 'cloud'.Feb 10 10:10
schestowitz"There’s more invasion of privacy, but FB and friends are basically like broadcast TV. Even the joindiaspora hub gives me the creeps. They control mental input in exactly the same way newspapers and broadcast did. It’s a little worse because people think of FB like a post service they can’t do without, and it both spies and customizes the propaganda flow as an injection in people’s ordinary conversations. The net result is much like Feb 10 10:10
schestowitzold media - the AP model man had 15 minutes a day for news, got whatever summary AP put out. FB model man will get about the same flow of thought crushing cliches, and bullshit."Feb 10 10:10
schestowitzyes, big problemFeb 10 10:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026830Feb 10 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/884701-the-linux-foundations-core-infrastructure-initiative-working-with-white-house-on-cybersecurity-national-action-plan/Feb 10 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | The Linux Foundation’s Core Infrastructure Initiative Working with White House on Cybersecurity National Action Plan | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/oi2ps ]Feb 10 10:13
schestowitz"With Microsoft in the Linux Foundation, I don’t think it’s my security they care about. It’s more likely their ability to violate me.'Feb 10 10:13
schestowitz> "As a result, it’s “inevitable” Russia will switch state networks fromFeb 10 10:32
schestowitz> Windows to an open-source system based on Linux, a move 22,000 municipalFeb 10 10:32
schestowitz> governments are prepared to make immediately"Feb 10 10:32
schestowitz> Feb 10 10:32
schestowitz> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-09/putin-s-new-internet-czar-joins-hunt-for-google-apple-taxesFeb 10 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bloomberg.com | Putin's New Internet Czar Wants Apple and Google to Pay More Taxes - Bloomberg Business [ http://ur1.ca/oi2rs ]Feb 10 10:32
schestowitz> Feb 10 10:32
schestowitz> We've heard this before.  Will it actually happen this time?  Keep inFeb 10 10:32
schestowitz> mind now GNU/Linux has NSA's systemdFeb 10 10:32
schestowitzsystemd is Red hat's. Red Hat is an NSA ally. But even bearing in mind the phoronix articles, I wouldn't leap into saying "NSA's systemd"Feb 10 10:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OSFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 adoption https://t.co/KWD6HDG9jf (www.cio.com)Feb 10 10:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Samsung hopes Raspberry Pi can spread Tizen OS adoption | CIOFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Simple tips for making your Android phone moreFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 secure https://t.co/lt6A2o6PoO (bgr.com)Feb 10 10:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Android security tips and tricks: Google’s four recommendations | BGRFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines@SiriusCorp      Due to our Drupal work expanding hugely in theFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 UK Government space we're looking for moreFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Drupalists to join the Sirius team! contact us!Feb 10 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "it’s “inevitable” #Russia will switch stateFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 networks fromFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows to an open-source system based onFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux" https://t.co/FWql54r0zmFeb 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bloomberg.com)Feb 10 10:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 10 14:29
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r_schestowitzMinceR: funny, sharedFeb 10 20:48
r_schestowitzall refer to statements he madeFeb 10 20:48
r_schestowitzKim K, Mexicans...Feb 10 20:48
r_schestowitzand his bankruptciesFeb 10 20:48
r_schestowitzso it's a good summary simplifying his brain damageFeb 10 20:49
r_schestowitzWatch http://trumpthemovie.com/watch/Feb 10 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trumpthemovie.com | Trump: What's the Deal?Watch the FilmFeb 10 20:49
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697468274322378752Feb 10 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @IPRsLaw @lessig technical independence of cyberspace? Freenet?Feb 10 21:00
TweetTuxMachines@Durga_Karma     The Michael Daily News byFeb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8L9GwMtRr0Feb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (michael.lr-partner.com) wurde soebenFeb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 publiziert! https://t.co/gfCLUzuqP9 (paper.li)Feb 10 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://michael.lr-partner.com )Feb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Vielen Dank an @tuxmachines @MaditaKohrtFeb 10 21:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Michael Daily News by https://durgakarma.wordpress.com/Feb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Using the Latest LinuxFeb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 4.4.1 https://t.co/WoMMRqovD6Feb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 21:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Using the Latest Linux Kernel 4.4.1 | Tux MachinesFeb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LibreOffice 5.1 Officially Released withFeb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Redesigned User Interface, New FeaturesFeb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/SXiVEg0Tvz (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 21:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 5.1 Officially Released with Redesigned User Interface, New Features | Tux MachinesFeb 10 21:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: Manjaro-ARM Linux on the Raspberry PiFeb 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 2 https://t.co/1EFS395mMc (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 21:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: Manjaro-ARM Linux on the Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/StcVYNpTcnFeb 10 21:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why open source can save companies fromFeb 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 drowning in the data lakeFeb 10 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KWjYxZgFQx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 21:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why open source can save companies from drowning in the data lake | Tux MachinesFeb 10 21:33
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cubexyzwow, there's talk of making windows stop working if there's no internet connectionFeb 10 21:50
cubexyzforced subscription modelFeb 10 21:50
cubexyzanyway, I figured it was coming. Adobe does that for CS6Feb 10 21:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LibreOffice 5.1 Officially Released withFeb 10 22:20
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/697532351933456385Feb 10 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@angrymofo: @schestowitz I can't think of a single reason why I would ever require a 'smart fridge' and I'm a tech guy.Feb 10 22:21
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/697536500657995776Feb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: When #UK secret service only recruited from Oxbridge: "#MI5 brings homosexuals in from cold" https://t.co/kQhnkWWUtz https://t.co/jPoVPQAv9iFeb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | So what's new about gay spies? | Voices | The IndependentFeb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: For those who are not aware yet, spies like to #blackmail people to become their assets/moles. They say, join us, play ball, or go to jail.Feb 10 22:22
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/maramala/status/697540988928045056Feb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maramala: Yet famous terrorist accounts & well-known troll personalities not only stay online, they get a Verified mark. https://t.co/jdgCNQE6CyFeb 10 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: First they came for the "terrorists", then they came for the "trolls".. how long before I too will be considered/classified too provocative?Feb 10 22:22
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r_schestowitzcubexyz: just linked to your review in some placesFeb 10 22:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/StcVYNpTcnFeb 10 23:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vector Linux 7.1 Light https://t.co/jBI8K84oQcFeb 10 23:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.com | Notes on Linux: Vector Linux 7.1 LightFeb 10 23:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2015 https://t.co/D2CRjd01tTFeb 10 23:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org) Members Choice AwardFeb 10 23:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | LinuxQuestions.orgFeb 10 23:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | 2015 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Award WinnersFeb 10 23:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE's new Linux distro: Terrible idea, orFeb 10 23:14
TweetTuxMachines                 simply a huge mistake? https://t.co/LCojDnLdVsFeb 10 23:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | KDE's new Linux distro KDE Neon: Terrible idea, or simply a mistake?Feb 10 23:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Is Getting Its Fourth UpdateFeb 10 23:14
TweetTuxMachines                 on February 18 https://t.co/tMB1AJ1qBMFeb 10 23:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 23:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Is Getting Its Fourth Update on February 18Feb 10 23:14
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Is Getting Its Fourth Update...'Feb 10 23:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical in Talks with Android OEM PartnersFeb 10 23:15
TweetTuxMachines                 for Ubuntu Phones https://t.co/NHcCgIHM33Feb 10 23:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 23:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical in Talks with Android OEM Partners for Ubuntu PhonesFeb 10 23:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical in Talks with Android OEM Partners for...'Feb 10 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nouveau Linux 4.5 vs. NVIDIA OpenGLFeb 10 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Performance: Open-Source Not Up To ParFeb 10 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/k6Rl7dgHgn (www.phoronix.com)Feb 10 23:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Nouveau Linux 4.5 vs. NVIDIA OpenGL Performance: Open-Source Not Up To Par - PhoronixFeb 10 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical releases Snappy Ubuntu Core LinuxFeb 10 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 image for x86-based Intel NUC DE3815TYFeb 10 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UgX3xFiYt7 (betanews.com) Feb 10 23:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Canonical releases Snappy Ubuntu Core Linux image for x86-based Intel NUC DE3815TYFeb 10 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Snappy Ubuntu Core Gets Support on Intel NUCFeb 10 23:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 15.12 (Capella) Gets Pacman 5 SupportFeb 10 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XR8R1asgop (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 23:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro 15.12 (Capella) Gets Pacman 5 SupportFeb 10 23:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications 16.04 Release ScheduleFeb 10 23:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | KDE Applications 16.04 Release Schedule - PhoronixFeb 10 23:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Desktop: Good News and Bad NewsFeb 10 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IhwWgDCiuw (www.datamation.com)Feb 10 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Open Source Leads on the Desktop - DatamationFeb 10 23:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.5 Hotfix on Its Way to FixFeb 10 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 the Big Mir Issue on Ubuntu PhonesFeb 10 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BDLWLkNyAa (news.softpedia.com)Feb 10 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.5 Hotfix on Its Way to Fix the Big Mir Issue on Ubuntu PhonesFeb 10 23:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications 16.04 Release ScheduleFeb 10 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mhgVGRZ2SP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Applications 16.04 Release Schedule | Tux MachinesFeb 10 23:23
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697562463022219264Feb 10 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz FFII famous stickerFeb 10 23:29
r_schestowitzyes, that's how I knowFeb 10 23:29
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697562585131065344Feb 10 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz I wanted to print them all and take a picture.Feb 10 23:29
r_schestowitzLook for a photo on the Internet of paper piles, see what number of papers is stated (maybe flat packed), post with captionFeb 10 23:30
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697562585131065344Feb 10 23:30
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/697563537896574976Feb 10 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz @retroDoomer @mashable @twitter so why are you still here? No alternative? Ah, welcome to the club?Feb 10 23:34
r_schestowitzI'm in joindiaspora, it spews out copies to twitterFeb 10 23:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Desktop: Good News and Bad NewsFeb 10 23:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/W44xSzSo51 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 23:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Desktop: Good News and Bad News | Tux MachinesFeb 10 23:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.5 Hotfix on Its Way to FixFeb 10 23:35
TweetTuxMachines                 the Big Mir Issue on Ubuntu PhonesFeb 10 23:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xkaZvNEkVV (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 23:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.5 Hotfix on Its Way to Fix the Big Mir Issue on Ubuntu Phones | Tux MachinesFeb 10 23:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vector Linux 7.1 Light https://t.co/OXr3ZJxW5YFeb 10 23:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 23:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vector Linux 7.1 Light | Tux MachinesFeb 10 23:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2015 https://t.co/D2CRjdhClrFeb 10 23:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org) Members Choice AwardFeb 10 23:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | LinuxQuestions.orgFeb 10 23:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 10 23:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2015 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Award Winners | Tux MachinesFeb 10 23:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro 15.12 (Capella) Gets Pacman 5 SupportFeb 10 23:36
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/697568303380738048Feb 10 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @jwildeboer @mashable @twitter I'm certain I joined Diaspora a while ago. Thoughts on 'ello?Feb 10 23:51
r_schestowitzDid you find me on there. Jan used to be quite active there but stopped.Feb 10 23:51
r_schestowitz*there?Feb 10 23:52
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7029223Feb 11 00:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Prepare for #twitter to start deleting tweets and banning users for what politicians dub "hate speech", sometimes anti-migrant positions.Feb 11 00:01
r_schestowitz"woow"Feb 11 00:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697713193674735616Feb 11 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz A lot worse depends on focus. Re. injunctions, Apple the bigger problem. I'd like more companies to defend themselves in court.Feb 11 09:28
schestowitzMicrosoft took Samsung to court and this is more or less or this new strategy started....Feb 11 09:28
schestowitzI can hypothetise @horaciog goes to companies that sell Android and says, look what we did to Samsung, just do as we tell youFeb 11 09:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/697715789248532481Feb 11 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It's a complex issue since those companies have previously distributed MSFT software. Apple has different biz strategy.Feb 11 09:39
schestowitzSo because they used Windows before it's OK for MS & @horaciog to pressure them to still use Microsoft, using #swpats threats?Feb 11 09:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026510Feb 11 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Clueless #microsoft cannot sell desktops anymore (nosediving market), thinks it's 2009 all over again http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/08/remember_netbooks_windows_10_makes_them_good_again/Feb 11 09:42
schestowitz"If that’s true, how long can it last?"Feb 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Remember Netbooks? Windows 10 makes them good again! • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oi2om ]Feb 11 09:43
schestowitzThey have a new strategy now, involving patents and concessions on patent feesFeb 11 09:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026205Feb 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dell Firmware Updating under Linux http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/b/techcenter/archive/2016/02/02/dell-firmware-updating-under-linux #dell #linuxFeb 11 09:43
schestowitz"All UEFI can “upgrade” their firmware without OS intervention. That’s worth avoiding."Feb 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.community.dell.com | Dell Firmware Updating under Linux [ http://ur1.ca/oi2os ]Feb 11 09:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697718705065762816   https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697718984800600064Feb 11 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz You did not just sat it was less frequent. You suggested it was because of threats of legal action. @IpkatFeb 11 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz But less frequent can be for many reasons, and I suggest that the coverage of that rather important meeting... @IpkatFeb 11 09:49
schestowitzGiven some time I could gather numbers to support my claim that articles about EPO, esp. negative articles, reduced in numberFeb 11 09:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697719084746727424Feb 11 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz ... Might give us a clue. @IpkatFeb 11 09:51
schestowitzThere are many other topics that could be covered, such as the trip to Cuba (got translations today)Feb 11 09:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/697719911725006848Feb 11 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz I don't doubt there are less articles. I doubt @Ipkat is afraid.Feb 11 09:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/697761160393838592Feb 11 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vecchi_Paolo: @schestowitz If they stopped using Google Apps & setup an #OpenSource communication platform on #OpenStack it would be even better.Feb 11 12:39
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schestowitzmeh, BS new page: https://opensource.com/resources/careers-open-source-2016Feb 11 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Careers in Open Source series | Opensource.comFeb 11 12:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Updates the All-Snap Snappy Ubuntu Images to Remove Misplaced SSH KeyFeb 11 12:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Blackberry Priv review: Finally succumbs toFeb 11 13:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Android, and does well! https://t.co/lHG7pavtUNFeb 11 13:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (economictimes.indiatimes.com)Feb 11 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economictimes.indiatimes.com | Blackberry Priv review: Finally succumbs to Android, and does well! - The Economic TimesFeb 11 13:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @avidlygotbackup favourited 'BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live...'Feb 11 13:15
*TweetTuxMachines @avidlygotbackup favourited 'BakAndImgCD 16.0 Data Backup and Disk Cloning Live...'Feb 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source in the enterprise bringsFeb 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines                 opportunities and challengesFeb 11 13:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source in the enterprise brings opportunities and challenges | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HMRC and FOSS https://t.co/Tc03juJIVEFeb 11 13:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HMRC and FOSS | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System to Get a Much SmallerFeb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines                 ISO https://t.co/i1eLA51bHpFeb 11 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System to Get a Much Smaller ISO | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2Feb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rIiManrDlJ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Researchers release open source code forFeb 11 13:17
TweetTuxMachines                 powerful image detection algorithmFeb 11 13:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/H0sXj9f0a4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 13:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Researchers release open source code for powerful image detection algorithm | Tux MachinesFeb 11 13:17
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schestowitz> #Wed Feb 10 19:57:05 PST 2016Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Dear bro,Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Here goes the requested work.Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz> Have a nice Thursday. Have a coffee on my name.Feb 11 13:43
schestowitzI'll ask my wife. She doesn't like it when I take caffeine, unless it's in tea...Feb 11 13:43
schestowitz>> http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/cuba/2016-01-22/suscribiran-oficinas-de-patentes-memorando-de-entendimiento/Feb 11 13:44
schestowitz> OK bro!Feb 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juventudrebelde.cu | Suscribirán oficinas de patentes memorando de entendimiento - Cuba - Juventud Rebelde - Diario de la juventud cubana [ http://ur1.ca/oi0gq ]Feb 11 13:44
schestowitz> Here it goes bro:Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> mep_ana_gomes_vs_epo_abusesFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> upc_politics_exposedFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> I'll work on your request after these.Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> I have ben working with Boris so hard, Thanks God he's picking up doing hisFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> homework, I just needed to sit down next to him and he did it. Hard work butFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> it's paying offFeb 11 13:46
schestowitz> Feb 11 13:46
schestowitz> RegardsFeb 11 13:46
schestowitzI will start with the Spanish lang articles, as usual in the morning/afternoon-Feb 11 13:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi...'Feb 11 13:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 11/2/2016: LibreOffice 5.1, HMRC and FOSSFeb 11 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1P97RJ4ZYU (techrights.org)Feb 11 13:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/2/2016: LibreOffice 5.1, HMRC and FOSS | TechrightsFeb 11 13:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/teusink/status/697784535765938177Feb 11 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@teusink: @schestowitz @teusink @All4Privacy Is the message or social graph shared? What does the privacy policy states? (not read it tbh..)Feb 11 14:09
schestowitzSee what Twitter did in the case of WikileaksFeb 11 14:10
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_IndonesiaFeb 11 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of massacres in Indonesia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oiag4 ]Feb 11 14:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/teusink/status/697784911894282244Feb 11 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@teusink: @schestowitz @teusink @All4Privacy You know if it was court-ordered?Feb 11 14:20
schestowitzIt wasFeb 11 14:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SpeedwayFloozy/status/697788246005252099Feb 11 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpeedwayFloozy: @schestowitz Set up and run by a #sociopath wanting to make decisions for #all you expected less while working in his #free #content #mines?Feb 11 14:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/dlHBLPtxbiFeb 11 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/aGmFkf6yUXFeb 11 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating SupportFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 with Help from Ubuntu DevFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oxx8a6LB29 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating Support with Help from Ubuntu Dev | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails installer is now in DebianFeb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/V7jERF2uSu (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 14:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails installer is now in Debian | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Certified SystemFeb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de RianchoFeb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/671r2Ghuv8 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 11 14:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oiaifFeb 11 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de Riancho | Tux MachinesFeb 11 14:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/697790342217756672Feb 11 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: ...or because someone has paid for censoring them. https://t.co/GKabVwwEwUFeb 11 14:50
schestowitzPoliticians and countries that threaten to ban Twitter (and sometimes do), as well...Feb 11 14:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SpeedwayFloozy/status/697790885539540997Feb 11 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpeedwayFloozy: @schestowitz It's the 21st Century #Robberbaron mentality and the minions it molds ( #Andreessen )- #jumpship from #abusive #badtechFeb 11 14:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/697805776786743297Feb 11 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Maybe also corporate organizations and institutions to bust whistleblowers ...Feb 11 15:36
schestowitzWould love to see evidence of it, except Wikileaks-TwitterFeb 11 15:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/697806765824610308Feb 11 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz So far only circumstantial, I guess.Feb 11 15:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lumina Desktop Getting Ready for FreeBSD 11.0Feb 11 16:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026510Feb 11 16:22
schestowitz"Feb 11 16:22
schestowitzThe strategy always revolves around making their software look competitive. File systems, boot loaders, firmware, are all promoted to promote Windows. Their software patent extortion will try to push those things onto companies with the hope of forcing people back to Windows. Sooner or later the extortion game is going to end when other rich and powerful people get tired of paying fees for crap that does not work.Feb 11 16:22
schestowitzAndroid has pushed Windows off a cliff. Try and Microsoft might, people are not going back to Microsoft platforms. Vista failed miserably and people left. Now the niche users are being squeezed by the march to Vista X. The intentional destruction of older Microsoft software is going to waste trillions of dollars worth of medical equipment. They have no one else left to squeeze, even their partners are using gnu/linux to make PRISM work.Feb 11 16:22
schestowitz"Feb 11 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Clueless #microsoft cannot sell desktops anymore (nosediving market), thinks it's 2009 all over again http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/08/remember_netbooks_windows_10_makes_them_good_again/Feb 11 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Remember Netbooks? Windows 10 makes them good again! • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oi2om ]Feb 11 16:22
schestowitzSadly, Android too is being closed down in some  ways and public backlash keeps it honest. Google has just undone a ban on Samsung software that blocks ads in the browser. I saw an article about it today. Let's keep software something that users control, not something that controls the users (like DRM, TPM UEFI).Feb 11 16:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/697816905948794880Feb 11 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz https://t.co/XbPX2zz8M3Feb 11 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheHackersNews: A Comprehensive Guide.. eBook: "Securing & Optimizing #Linux: The Hacking Solution (v.3.0)" https://t.co/2KwVHTJQjv https://t.co/Ywm0DJ2HpKFeb 11 16:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux, IBM Share Bold Vision for HyperledgerFeb 11 16:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Project, a Blockchain Fabric for BusinessFeb 11 16:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coindesk.com | Linux, IBM Share Bold Vision for Hyperledger Project, a Blockchain Fabric for Business - CoinDeskFeb 11 16:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     App: Download Manager for Samsung Z1 / Z3 isFeb 11 16:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Available in Tizen StoreFeb 11 16:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | App: Download Manager for Samsung Z1 / Z3 is Available in Tizen Store - Tizen ExpertsFeb 11 16:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? Feb 11 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bdKawvPOz1Feb 11 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bristolwireless.net) no surpriseFeb 11 16:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bristolwireless.net | Russian government to switch to desktop Linux? | Bristol WirelessFeb 11 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - TechrightsFeb 11 16:48
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/697824226762366976Feb 11 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: I'm still here. #canaryinthecoalmine https://t.co/ykff8pgscoFeb 11 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: I have seen a riot called #riptwitter over #twitter planning to censor everyone (for profit/partners) but not deleting accounts b/c "trolls"Feb 11 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rackspace to Manage #RedHat #OpenStack CloudsFeb 11 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 On-PremiseFeb 11 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/r98MNTJKJc (www.cmswire.com)Feb 11 16:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cmswire.com | Rackspace to Manage Red Hat OpenStack Clouds On-PremiseFeb 11 16:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Three nginx Vulnerabilities Closed in UbuntuFeb 11 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 OSes https://t.co/Yora5PuaEvFeb 11 16:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Three nginx Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSesFeb 11 16:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The 32-bit microcontroller world is startingFeb 11 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 to open up to world Linux."Feb 11 16:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | ST Releases Free Linux IDE for 32-Bit MCUs | Linux.comFeb 11 16:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Certified SystemFeb 11 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de RianchoFeb 11 16:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BSeKCVfanp (www.linux.com)Feb 11 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Jorge Tudela Gonzalez de Riancho | Linux.comFeb 11 16:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails installer is now in Debian LinuxFeb 11 16:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bits.debian.org/2016/02/tails-installer-in-debian.html )Feb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating SupportFeb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines                 with Help from Ubuntu DevFeb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LgmvNEWzQy (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 16:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Software Gets Comment and Rating Support with Help from Ubuntu DevFeb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2Feb 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c9E1pzwx0y (news.softpedia.com)Feb 11 16:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tizen 3.0 Is Being Ported for Raspberry Pi 2Feb 11 16:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/697825360822468608 Feb 11 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: I'm ahead of you. Warning: Eventually you'll go to Xmonad or GNUStep. Not a bad thing, of course... https://t.co/mLCsIbnQt0Feb 11 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is there any #kde based distro left that does not suck? It currently sucks up about half an hour/day (sitting and waiting). back to #openboxFeb 11 17:01
r_schestowitzGNUstep would add icons and menus, which I don't have in openboxFeb 11 17:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System to Get a Much SmallerFeb 11 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 ISO https://t.co/S9C1bzqnyjFeb 11 17:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System to Get a Much Smaller ISOFeb 11 17:07
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schestowitztessier: I think cache server might be down, checking...Feb 11 19:15
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tessierschestowitz: Ran out of memory. It's currently doing an fsck due to not having been rebooted in so long. Back up soon...Feb 11 19:36
schestowitztessier: cheers, no problemFeb 11 19:38
tessierWe're backFeb 11 19:43
schestowitzyes, all fully operational again (I've checked)Feb 11 19:48
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MinceRhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2447Feb 11 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | journal ip anonymization · Issue #2447 · systemd/systemd · GitHubFeb 11 22:14
MinceRnot surprisingFeb 11 22:15
schestowitzwhy not?Feb 11 22:18
schestowitzAny OS should have something like thatFeb 11 22:18
schestowitzoh, wait, I thought you were talking about an OS, not an 'init system'Feb 11 22:19
MinceRthe fascists including the nsa don't care, therefore ratcrap doesn't careFeb 11 22:20
MinceRand of course poettering is committed to taking over all functionality of an OS, but he isn't interested in doing any of it correctlyFeb 11 22:22
schestowitzmight get to it at the endFeb 11 22:28
schestowitzlike he did pulseaudioFeb 11 22:28
schestowitz[rant]Feb 11 22:28
schestowitzI suffered a lot from PAFeb 11 22:28
schestowitzAround 2008Feb 11 22:28
schestowitzonwards until around 2010Feb 11 22:28
schestowitzI sometimes had it take up A LOT of CPUFeb 11 22:28
schestowitzand sometimes it went defunct, so I had to restart sessions and rebootFeb 11 22:28
schestowitznot I forgot about itFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzit "just works"Feb 11 22:29
schestowitzand behaves OKFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzLP blames Ubuntu's packaging of itFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzbut I experienced issues also in MandrivaFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzI think kf5 is a mess before of systemd-related overhailFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzand other red hat crap like wayland, plymouth etc.Feb 11 22:29
schestowitzI went back to openbox todayFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzI still check out the updated KDE buildsFeb 11 22:29
schestowitzas I did for the past weekFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzbut it's still messyFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzSo I hope systemd - like PA - will >somehow< and some time will turn out to work OKFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzI saw systemd mentioned today in arch wikiFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzwhen looking up some feh tipsFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzso resistance is now futileFeb 11 22:30
schestowitzsystemd will take over everything, I just hope they'll clean up the messFeb 11 22:31
schestowitz[end rant]Feb 11 22:31
MinceReven PA doesn't work OKFeb 11 22:41
MinceRand if systemd takes over all of unix, we'll need another unixFeb 11 22:41
MinceRwe needed a unix when winblows fucked up our IT completelyFeb 11 22:41
MinceRcancerd and lendows do not actually fix any of thisFeb 11 22:41
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schestowitzWindows sucked for many different reasonsFeb 11 22:54
schestowitzand people like ourselves didn't just say, heck, it's too monolithic, hence we need changeFeb 11 22:54
schestowitzLots of reasons for dumping Windows that are not applicable to systemdFeb 11 22:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/697870479026221057Feb 11 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike invalid under Alice?Feb 11 22:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/blue_spike/status/697872253950783489Feb 11 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blue_spike: @zoobab trolling again?Feb 11 22:56
schestowitzzoobab_: maybe they doFeb 11 22:56
schestowitzpatent trollingFeb 11 22:56
MinceRthere are lots of reasons for dumping winblows that are already applicable to lendowsFeb 11 22:56
MinceRand the cult is working on making moreFeb 11 22:56
MinceRas well as destroying the competitionFeb 11 22:56
MinceR(yet another thing in common with m$)Feb 11 22:56
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schestowitzcontext: https://twitter.com/blue_spike/status/697116658847055872Feb 11 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blue_spike: 100 followers & our 100th patent grant https://t.co/rEBUxDBGbuFeb 11 23:00
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schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-229-ReleasedFeb 11 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver Now Fully Supported - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/oicsf ]Feb 11 23:04
MinceRoohFeb 11 23:11
MinceRfinally i can have DNS security holes built right into pid1!Feb 11 23:12
MinceRthe only problem is, i never wanted that and i never asked for thatFeb 11 23:12
schestowitzwho asked for systemd?Feb 11 23:13
schestowitzredhat and intel among the implementersFeb 11 23:13
schestowitzbut was there demand from, say, IBM?Feb 11 23:13
MinceRwho would demand anything at ibm?Feb 11 23:14
MinceRis anyone still working there?Feb 11 23:14
schestowitzThey moves many jobs to IndiaFeb 11 23:17
schestowitzMaybe kept many staff this way, similar staff numbersFeb 11 23:18
schestowitzWhen you sell machines at $500,000 apiece you can afford many members of staffFeb 11 23:18
schestowitzlike system architects and overpriced staff to look after overhyped mainframes for businesses that make a lot more money than they actually deserve, like investment banks and hedge fundsFeb 11 23:19
MinceRbut if you sell off all your department, your staff goes with them :>Feb 11 23:20
MinceRs/ent/&s/Feb 11 23:20
schestowitzlenovo and others, yes...Feb 11 23:23
schestowitzmaybe we need to check wikipedia for historical staff dataFeb 11 23:23
schestowitzI know their market cap suffered a declines years ago, but I haven't been keeping up with share prices of tech companies except for red hat'sFeb 11 23:23
cubexyzI think we are witnessing the end of windows dominanceFeb 12 00:03
MinceRdepends on whether ratcrap's gambit to kill unix will succeedFeb 12 00:04
MinceRand whether m$'s and intel's gambit to kill general purpose computing will succeedFeb 12 00:04
schestowitzwhat about android with baseband OSes?Feb 12 00:05
schestowitzwe're not doing too well on phone freedom eitherFeb 12 00:05
schestowitzthough at least there's AOSP and FdroidFeb 12 00:05
schestowitzMicrosoft practically put the death knell upon CMFeb 12 00:05
schestowitzand I believe Androidx86 is far too Google hostileFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzeven hostile towards a project (recently) that 'dared' to fork FOSSFeb 12 00:06
MinceRphones always suckedFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzComplained about Google for antitrustFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzVery weird entities around AndroidFeb 12 00:06
MinceRandroid was a ray of hope which mostly failedFeb 12 00:06
MinceRnow we get lendows on phones, with tizen and othersFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzNow amazon is trying to hijack AndroudFeb 12 00:06
schestowitzAfter MS Android and MS FB failedFeb 12 00:06
MinceRlooks like phones will just keep on sucking foreverFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzand CM is hardly heard of anymoreFeb 12 00:07
schestowitz(better that way)Feb 12 00:07
MinceRm$ android failed already?Feb 12 00:07
MinceRi still keep hearing about CMFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzJolla got some fundingFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzbut it's not so FOSSyFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzTizen is Samsung onlyFeb 12 00:07
MinceRsailfish os is nonfree and it's lendows, iircFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzsome insider ranted about how Samsung just does "open" charades around itFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzUbuntu Phone is slow to pick upFeb 12 00:07
schestowitzFirefoxOS is dead.. for phones at leastFeb 12 00:08
MinceRand instead of phones getting more open and more general-purpose, locking down has apparently gained popularityFeb 12 00:08
schestowitzAs dead as Windows on phones Feb 12 00:08
schestowitz(seen one person use it the other day, on a 'Nokia')Feb 12 00:08
MinceRtry to run an OS of your choice on your phone and you get loss of hw support, loss of warranty and potential brickingFeb 12 00:08
schestowitzMinceR: and it gets worse around them, at the towerFeb 12 00:08
schestowitztoday I saw this:Feb 12 00:08
schestowitz!google android to find smart devices marshmallowFeb 12 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - How to get Android Marshmallow 6.0 update for your device ... | http://gadgetguideonline.com/android/android-marshmallow-guide/how-to-get-android-marshmallow-6-0-update-for-your-device/Feb 12 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Android 6.0 Marshmallow Update: Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony | Digital ... | http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-6-marshmallow-updated-phones/Feb 12 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - When will your phone get Android Marshmallow? - CNET | http://www.cnet.com/news/android-marshmallow-phones-update/Feb 12 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - How to get Android Marshmallow features on your phone right now ... | https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-get-android-marshmallow-features-on-your-phone-right-nowFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzwait, that's not itFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzit basically looks for 'IoT' in the vicinityFeb 12 00:09
MinceRand they believe that their idiotic image patching is a reasonable way to deliver security updatesFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzso obviously broadcasting to other devicesFeb 12 00:09
schestowitz"for your advantage" of course...Feb 12 00:09
MinceRthey're even pushing that to "PC"sFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzChrome OS can boot spontaneouslyFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzeven if you run GNU/Linux on  itFeb 12 00:09
MinceRwell, i guess it's easier for the establishment if computers have more security holesFeb 12 00:09
schestowitzbecause Google decides "it's time"Feb 12 00:10
MinceReven in developer mode?Feb 12 00:10
schestowitzRempote update you cannot control is a back doorFeb 12 00:10
schestowitzit's marketing as closing holeFeb 12 00:10
schestowitzbut it's a hole in its own rightFeb 12 00:10
schestowitzunless you have control over it and given consent with details of what's being changed (I upgraded Firefox to 44 a few hours ago)Feb 12 00:10
schestowitz(I need to do rianne's upgrade next)Feb 12 00:10
schestowitzMinceR: Chrome OS in developer mode, yes...Feb 12 00:11
schestowitzshe uses Ubuntu on top of Chrome OS, with croutonFeb 12 00:11
schestowitzsometimes it just dies without notice and bootsFeb 12 00:11
MinceRthat's fucked upFeb 12 00:11
MinceRmaybe it doesn't happen if you boot an alternate rootfs instead, thoughFeb 12 00:12
schestowitzthere's also no way to change sleep mode settingsFeb 12 00:12
schestowitzunless she created a google account to 'sign in' to Chrome OSFeb 12 00:12
schestowitzrather than start as a guest to boot up ubuntuFeb 12 00:12
cubexyzok, well I can safely say that FC1, AntiX, Q4OS and Vector 7.1 do not force rebootsFeb 12 00:12
schestowitzChrome OS requires you to set up an account on 'the Cloud' to change/configureFeb 12 00:12
MinceRhttp://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/rockchip/asus-chromebook-flip-c100pFeb 12 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archlinuxarm.org | Asus Chromebook Flip C100P | Arch Linux ARMFeb 12 00:13
MinceRbooting from external storage like that ^Feb 12 00:13
schestowitzprevious chromebook was dual-bootFeb 12 00:13
schestowitzso proper install, no subordinate OSFeb 12 00:13
schestowitzand it didn't work too well with all the hardware, but somehow remotely acceptableFeb 12 00:13
schestowitzChromebooks at least cost littleFeb 12 00:13
schestowitzand Microsoft doesn't get paid a dime, AFAIKFeb 12 00:14
cubexyzcan you put CrOS into dev mode, and put a full linux on?Feb 12 00:14
cubexyzhaven't looked at that yetFeb 12 00:14
schestowitzso it makes the statement, even to the stores and OEMs, that there's demand for non-WindowsFeb 12 00:14
schestowitzcubexyz: yesFeb 12 00:14
schestowitzit's not even hard to doFeb 12 00:14
schestowitzjust make sure the hardware is compatible and to what degreeFeb 12 00:14
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schestowitztegra had a hard time with network (freezes), sound, colours (BGR rather than RGB)Feb 12 00:15
schestowitzamong other few issuesFeb 12 00:15
schestowitzcubexyz: try Acer 15Feb 12 00:15
schestowitzworksFeb 12 00:15
MinceRwell, tegra sucksFeb 12 00:15
MinceRx86 would probably work betterFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzI recently recommended this to a friend who's a retired chefFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzbecause he asked me as "his expert"Feb 12 00:16
schestowitzMinceR: yes, it doesFeb 12 00:16
schestowitztegra is designed for locked down crapFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzwith blobsFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzworks well as long as you play by >their< rulesFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzcubexyz: should cost no more than 300 canadian dollarsFeb 12 00:16
schestowitzand it's a 15 inch screen, dual core processor, 2 gb of ram, which is more than enough unless you edit videos or somethingFeb 12 00:17
cubexyzI'm a computing minimalist anywayFeb 12 00:17
cubexyzdon't need mega-hardwareFeb 12 00:17
MinceRwhat if state of the art cryptography needs fast hardware?Feb 12 00:18
schestowitzCAD 300  should fit the bill anyhowFeb 12 00:18
schestowitzno MS taxFeb 12 00:18
MinceRor what if you need to view a "modern" website that by itself slows a modern supercomputer to a crawl?Feb 12 00:18
schestowitzMinceR: how often do you encrypt/decrypt?Feb 12 00:18
schestowitzexcept let's say in the browser?Feb 12 00:18
MinceRall the timeFeb 12 00:18
cubexyzMinceR, but it doesn't... for my normal day-to-day use including online banking even my P3 coppermine 866 mhz is fineFeb 12 00:18
schestowitzMinceR: noscriptFeb 12 00:18
MinceRssh, irc over ssl, etcFeb 12 00:18
schestowitzand adblock plusFeb 12 00:18
MinceRyeah, but it's fashionable to keep you from seeing _any_ content whatsoever if you block javascriptFeb 12 00:19
cubexyzmostly I use P3's :)Feb 12 00:19
schestowitzsites can be made very lean if you also pretend to be using a mobileFeb 12 00:19
schestowitzand they then serve minimalist stuff with all the 'beef', not the clutterFeb 12 00:19
MinceRbecause somehow web browsers can no longer be trusted to render text and images, you've got to reimplement the browser in javascriptFeb 12 00:19
schestowitznot many sitesFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzmost work ok without jsFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzI could name those that don'tFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzas I visit thousands of sites repeatedlyFeb 12 00:20
MinceRi keep bumping into themFeb 12 00:20
MinceRlike this maru os thingFeb 12 00:20
schestowitztech news sites, android, apple, MSFTFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzMaybe a dozen refuse to work with JSFeb 12 00:20
schestowitzfamously NYT and Forbes these daysFeb 12 00:20
schestowitz(among the 'big' ones)Feb 12 00:20
MinceRah yes, fucking forbesFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzdisgustingFeb 12 00:21
MinceRand some blogspot sitesFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzyes]Feb 12 00:21
schestowitzsome themesFeb 12 00:21
cubexyznoscript allows for fine tuningFeb 12 00:21
cubexyzyou bugger around with it you can make any site workFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzaseigo used that one, I tried to hint that he should change themeFeb 12 00:21
MinceRi don't need fine tuning, i need these assholes to start using html properlyFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzthey doFeb 12 00:21
schestowitzbut many link it to outside crapFeb 12 00:22
MinceRalso, i'm tired of clicking through all combinations of 9001 domains to run random, potentially malicious crap fromFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzlike FB JS, Twitter JS, Google JS, all sorts of trackers and ad networksFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzMinceR: go to phoronixFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzclick on noscriptFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzon any article, not just front pageFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzthen, do the same in tuxmachines and techrightsFeb 12 00:22
schestowitztuxmachines has only one 'sin'Feb 12 00:22
schestowitzit's google translate JSFeb 12 00:22
MinceRit's like people realize that software can have bugs, but javascript sandboxes are fucking flawlessFeb 12 00:22
schestowitzto make real-time in-place translations workFeb 12 00:22
MinceRnothing could possibly go wrong with running random shit downloaded from random places!Feb 12 00:23
schestowitzI hate JSFeb 12 00:23
schestowitzI can code in it and did before, but nothing essentialFeb 12 00:23
cubexyzif a site is too bloated I try lynx or dilloFeb 12 00:23
schestowitzit contributed to issues with some devices and browser, same issues as with flashFeb 12 00:23
cubexyzthat's good enough to get the 'meat'Feb 12 00:23
schestowitzso better teach people to do the same things at the back endFeb 12 00:23
MinceRoften it won't get you the 'meat'Feb 12 00:24
schestowitzcubexyz:  used dillo a while backFeb 12 00:24
MinceRbecause they decided if you don't use a typical bloated "modern" browser with js, css and all that bullshit, you don't count anymoreFeb 12 00:24
schestowitzon a laptop from 1999 and then on some modern computer, it's only useful if you visit old school sitesFeb 12 00:24
MinceRmaybe i get an empty page even without cssFeb 12 00:24
cubexyzgive us an exampleFeb 12 00:24
MinceRor just a few links from noscriptFeb 12 00:24
schestowitzit's like running netscape two decades after its rottingFeb 12 00:24
cubexyzschestowitz, laptop is harder yesFeb 12 00:25
MinceRcubexyz: http://maruos.com/#/Feb 12 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://maruos.com/#/ )Feb 12 00:25
schestowitzMinceR: without CSS it should worFeb 12 00:25
schestowitzif they do CSS rightFeb 12 00:25
cubexyzslow video is a killer for web browsersFeb 12 00:25
MinceRgives you the main menu items as plain textFeb 12 00:25
MinceRand that's itFeb 12 00:25
MinceRfucking uselessFeb 12 00:25
MinceRschestowitz: they don't do css rightFeb 12 00:25
MinceRhell, the w3c doesn't do anything right anymoreFeb 12 00:25
schestowitzit's funded by mpaaFeb 12 00:25
MinceRthey just rubberstamp anything their corporate overlords put in front of themFeb 12 00:26
schestowitz"practical"Feb 12 00:26
schestowitzover freedom, openness, standard, interopFeb 12 00:26
cubexyzok, for maru I had to use firefox with noscript offFeb 12 00:26
MinceRwe'll see how "practical" it is when they get their boxes owned through their fucking browsersFeb 12 00:26
schestowitz"hey, we gotta have all these hip widgets and videos" (apple, netflix)Feb 12 00:26
MinceRfor all his bullshitting around the "open web", tim berners-lee happily let them put their h.264 patents and even DRM right into the specFeb 12 00:26
schestowitzI could see my browser burn up 1GB of RAM opening a dozen tabs of 'news' sites if there's no NoScriptFeb 12 00:27
cubexyzsomeone needs to tell maru their site is lynx hostile :)Feb 12 00:27
schestowitzPages became massive programsFeb 12 00:27
schestowitzand each page is linked to about 30 domainsFeb 12 00:27
MinceRmight as well tell most websites thatFeb 12 00:27
schestowitzsometimes more, you have to check and see to actually believe itFeb 12 00:27
MinceRi guess this is how IT diesFeb 12 00:27
schestowitzthey don't count on people checking sources, counting cookies, checking XSSFeb 12 00:27
cubexyznothing really dies thoughFeb 12 00:28
schestowitzMinceR: timbl softened with ageFeb 12 00:28
cubexyzI belong to sites that fix c64's, amigas and PDP-11sFeb 12 00:28
MinceRyeah, so did rmsFeb 12 00:28
schestowitzhe used to brag about having no patents on his babyFeb 12 00:28
schestowitznow there are patents (codecs) and also DRMFeb 12 00:28
cubexyzI ported em to Unix v5 a few days ago :)Feb 12 00:28
schestowitzto nail the last one on the coffinFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzI want a new Web plaftrormFeb 12 00:29
MinceRso do iFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzI can transport the serverFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzDBs and all still work fine, fully FOSSFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzjust need a new user-facing layer to serve over, with new rulesFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzand decentralisedFeb 12 00:29
cubexyzbtw lynx works with forbesFeb 12 00:29
MinceRthe lazy way would be just moving to gopher :>Feb 12 00:29
MinceRbut i think we can do betterFeb 12 00:29
schestowitzless censorship, hardly any centralised surveillanceFeb 12 00:30
MinceRcubexyz: nice, i'll give it a tryFeb 12 00:30
schestowitzthere's not much work involved, the data and page content is already in placeFeb 12 00:30
cubexyzI think I know what my next blog post will be :)Feb 12 00:30
schestowitzcubexyz: go for it, I'll link to it, like I did your last oneFeb 12 00:30
schestowitzbased on what people say in twitter and diapora (of course) other people bemoan the same thingsFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzit's just that they don't put it in writingFeb 12 00:31
cubexyzeveryone should test their web sites with lynx as a baseline comparisonFeb 12 00:31
cubexyzthat includes router portalsFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzpeople don't use lynx because of the webFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzthe web denies lynxFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzrather than lynx denying the webFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzand that's where the Web is goingFeb 12 00:31
schestowitzjust as many ISVs deny LinuxFeb 12 00:32
MinceRwhere the web is going: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Dumpster-non.JPGFeb 12 00:32
schestowitzrather than Linux users denying themFeb 12 00:32
schestowitzsame for the gaming 'industry'Feb 12 00:32
schestowitzthe web won't lastFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzthe internet might last longerFeb 12 00:33
MinceRnahFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzTim B-L made it easier for alternatives to ariseFeb 12 00:33
MinceRif the web dies, the fascists will kill the internet immediatelyFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzThe Internet needs to be fixed topologicallyFeb 12 00:33
MinceRas it will only be used for services "turrists" useFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzIPv6 won't do anything to fix thatFeb 12 00:33
cubexyzI blame the web developers thenFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzthey actually have bits in it resevres for "Earth"Feb 12 00:33
cubexyzfor poor work that's not compatibleFeb 12 00:33
schestowitzSo ambitious that they think the Internet will occupy the whole of spaceFeb 12 00:34
schestowitzI guess then too Pentagon will be mother shipFeb 12 00:34
schestowitzso packets from Mars will have DNS propagated from somewhere in Virginia or whateverFeb 12 00:34
cubexyzhttp://www.cfar.umd.edu/~waksman/lynx/making.htmlFeb 12 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cfar.umd.edu | Making your web pages Lynx friendly [ http://ur1.ca/oid30 ]Feb 12 00:34
schestowitzSo that USS Enterprise or whatever will do its star wars spiel and play babysitter with the "Internet"Feb 12 00:35
schestowitzcubexyz: does the techrights blog look ok to you in lynxFeb 12 00:35
schestowitzthe drupal part (front page), blog, and wiki?Feb 12 00:35
schestowitzand what about tuxmachines? I think they should show up reasonably wellFeb 12 00:36
cubexyzyeah it works ok with lynxFeb 12 00:36
schestowitzincluding alt tagsFeb 12 00:36
schestowitzfor images to show up with proper description of what's in the photosFeb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines@SiriusCorp      I just pledged to help shape #ourfoodfuture.Feb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Join the conversation and sign up too!Feb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 @ThunderclapIt // @foodgovFeb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/w4rBDUPL3L (www.thunderclap.it)Feb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid39Feb 12 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thunderclap.it | Thunderclap: Help shape our food future!Feb 12 00:36
MinceRat this rate, there won't be a uss enterpriseFeb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Education and  Open AccessFeb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/adiEDaIYwj (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3aFeb 12 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Education and Open Access | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:36
MinceRthere will just be a smoldering, lifeless ruin where earth used to beFeb 12 00:36
schestowitzmany don't bother, but I like to think blind people would love me for taking the effort for invisible text ;'-)Feb 12 00:36
schestowitzMinceR: we'll have movies like MartianFeb 12 00:37
cubexyzif you like vi you'll be right at home with lynxFeb 12 00:37
schestowitzso that we can live the AmericanDream(r) and pretend we already colonies a planet, not just a moon for half an hour (the one that orbits us only)Feb 12 00:37
MinceRi use links2 occasionallyFeb 12 00:37
MinceRusually with -g but not always :>Feb 12 00:37
cubexyzit's not that hard to be lynx compatibleFeb 12 00:38
schestowitzit is....Feb 12 00:39
schestowitz....when you work for stupid companiesFeb 12 00:39
schestowitzthat think of their web site as a printer posterFeb 12 00:39
schestowitzold schoolers who don't 'get' the WebFeb 12 00:39
schestowitzI met people and companies like thatFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/pFNBRCvz2MFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3nFeb 12 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNSFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Resolver Now Fully SupportedFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/x5YUfweX8H (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3oFeb 12 00:39
schestowitzmy first web site for a client, the guy asked me to implement BACKGROUND MUSICFeb 12 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd 229 Released With Many Changes, DNS Resolver Now Fully Supported | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:39
MinceR:>Feb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 tips for getting the most life out of yourFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Android battery https://t.co/0WfuD139HVFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:39
schestowitzand flash objects flying aroundFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3pFeb 12 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 tips for getting the most life out of your Android battery | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight PortableFeb 12 00:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Security) Linux OS Gets UpdatedFeb 12 00:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2x9VPOced9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 00:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oid3qFeb 12 00:40
schestowitzI ended up putting a MIDI file on the siteFeb 12 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security) Linux OS Gets Updated | Tux MachinesFeb 12 00:40
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'US Air Force's Secure LPS (Lightweight Portable Security)...'Feb 12 00:40
schestowitzwhich he later said became annoying to visitors. Well, duh, that's what I had told himFeb 12 00:40
cubexyzbtw I do have one problem with tuxmachinesFeb 12 00:40
cubexyzI can't register :)Feb 12 00:40
schestowitzrightFeb 12 00:40
schestowitzintentionalFeb 12 00:40
schestowitzbut temporaryFeb 12 00:41
schestowitzbecause of spam epidemicFeb 12 00:41
cubexyzok, I figured it was something like thatFeb 12 00:41
schestowitzwhich you personally alerted me to in the page, pharma spam taking over, occupying even the front page, potentially penalising the siteFeb 12 00:41
schestowitzI ask rianne sometimes whether we can re-enable registrationFeb 12 00:41
cubexyzI use manual registering on my forumFeb 12 00:41
cubexyzhttp://forum.cubeman.orgFeb 12 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.cubeman.org | Domain of the Cube Forum | Cube lovers returnsFeb 12 00:42
schestowitzbut there are still many attemtps to sign up by bots, maybe tens of thousands per monthFeb 12 00:42
schestowitz(last I checked)Feb 12 00:42
cubexyzclick on the question mark and you get instructions on how to registerFeb 12 00:42
schestowitztechrights allows registrationFeb 12 00:42
schestowitzand now has nearly  1 million 'users'Feb 12 00:42
schestowitzsuffice to say, it's a spamfestFeb 12 00:42
cubexyzhaFeb 12 00:42
schestowitzhard to actually find legit users at this stageFeb 12 00:42
schestowitzlots of CMSs become like that unless there are restrictions, captcha is often not enough to weed out the spamFeb 12 00:43
cubexyzmanual :)Feb 12 00:43
cubexyzget them to tell you why they want to registerFeb 12 00:43
schestowitzthe script kiddies just need to get their perl script or whatever working once, then rerunFeb 12 00:43
schestowitzeven with some high error rates they can occasionally sneak in their crapFeb 12 00:44
schestowitzbrute forceFeb 12 00:44
cubexyzyou must be able to form coherent sentences to join :)Feb 12 00:44
schestowitzand onces they sneak it they wank themselves in joy, increase the frequency (brute force), and your server is crippled with heavier loads, slower respons timesFeb 12 00:44
schestowitz*reponseFeb 12 00:44
schestowitzcubexyz: but then you have to review what they enteredFeb 12 00:45
cubexyzyesFeb 12 00:45
schestowitzRecently my techrights signup in drupal site got abusedFeb 12 00:45
schestowitzso much that my host wrote to meFeb 12 00:45
cubexyzI switched to manual years ago, no problemsFeb 12 00:45
schestowitzthey hammers on it thousands of timesFeb 12 00:45
schestowitzsending me like thousands of requests to join every hourFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzand overloading my host's mail serversFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzso I had to disable techrights registration to the drupal sideFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzsame in the wiki for years, due to lots of spamFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzso just wordpress is still open to them, for commentsFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzand gets a huge number of bogus registrationsFeb 12 00:46
schestowitzsame in php-nuke sites I have, albeit the frequency thereof dropped over the yearsFeb 12 00:47
schestowitzwhich basically comes to show what an utter mess the Web becameFeb 12 00:47
cubexyzI get around 40 spam registrations per day, not too badFeb 12 00:47
schestowitzmaking lots of components insecure by design for back doors partly the causeFeb 12 00:47
cubexyzautodelete once a weekFeb 12 00:47
schestowitzevolving along the lines of remote control by the entities that created the Internet in the first placeFeb 12 00:47
schestowitzcubexyz: you still need to reviewFeb 12 00:48
cubexyzI think the spamming is actually decreasingFeb 12 00:48
schestowitzthat can be an hour a monthFeb 12 00:48
schestowitzI used to spent hours per month reviewing spam, now it's a lot lessFeb 12 00:48
cubexyznot too many people into cube math :)Feb 12 00:48
cubexyzyes, it is a messFeb 12 00:52
cubexyzyou can imagine being on a P3 how much I hating autoplayFeb 12 00:56
cubexyzthat was a big deal turning that offFeb 12 00:56
cubexyzs/hating/hated/Feb 12 00:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 12 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more)Feb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TBvtoHGY25 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oidftFeb 12 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.19.90 beta tarballs due (and more) | Tux MachinesFeb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change theFeb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 01:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lzicIKiJHh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 01:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the Visibility of App Menus in Unity Panel | Tux MachinesFeb 12 01:59
cubexyzlwn.net is subscriber only?Feb 12 02:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/VernsCave/status/698006731436089345Feb 12 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@VernsCave: Only thing missing is a gun to the head https://t.co/eoDEvnb8O7Feb 12 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #TTIP: A locked room, no internet access, two hours, 300 pages and lots of typos https://t.co/mVNieniVCP colluding against societyFeb 12 09:14
*TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! https://t.co/SIGismFLKL playing classic #games...'Feb 12 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Handheld Emulation: Achievement Unlocked! | Linux JournalFeb 12 09:14
schestowitzzoobab_: https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698064350536409088Feb 12 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike not really. More spam for software developers. When does it stop?Feb 12 09:25
schestowitz"@blue_spike not really. More spam for software developers. When does it stop?"Feb 12 09:25
schestowitzThey tried to call you trollFeb 12 09:25
schestowitzand it's them who areFeb 12 09:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change theFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        https://t.co/BNMYeFgXMr (news.softpedia.com)Feb 12 09:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Let Users Change the Visibility of App Menus in Unity PanelFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Many" Android OEMs look set to release UbuntuFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines                 devices this year https://t.co/VNYKKUO15lFeb 12 09:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.neowin.net)Feb 12 09:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | "Many" Android OEMs look set to release Ubuntu devices this yearFeb 12 09:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/698076987126976513Feb 12 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz What hypocrisy. 🙄😏 Political Corruption is Deviant Behaviour; and is discussed very well here... https://t.co/BRe2itT99OFeb 12 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> hubpages.com | Political corruption as deviant behaviorFeb 12 09:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/698077557560750080Feb 12 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Secrecy, evasion, denial and outright lies to avoid responsibility and accountability .../2 https://t.co/jF0bdNOuyQFeb 12 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Secrecy, evasion, denial and outright lies to avoid responsibility and accountability .../2 https://t.co/jF0bdNOuyQFeb 12 09:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/698077918660931584Feb 12 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz .../2 are core signs of political deviancy (and certain Presidential candidates) - but are NOT characteristic of Bernie SandersFeb 12 09:40
XRevan86What's political deviancy?Feb 12 09:40
schestowitzgood questionFeb 12 09:42
schestowitzI'm not too sure eitherFeb 12 09:42
schestowitzBut that's what Bezos' washpost accused Sanders ofFeb 12 09:42
schestowitzRemember that Sanders declared intent to go after like tax evaders like Bezos, who uses his 'news' paper, Washington Post, to attack SandersFeb 12 09:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Many" Android OEMs look set to release UbuntuFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 devices this year https://t.co/KlTliMxWVQFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oif8zFeb 12 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | "Many" Android OEMs look set to release Ubuntu devices this year | Tux MachinesFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Some Fresh #Radeon EXA/GLAMOR 2D AccelerationFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Benchmarks https://t.co/T6vIwc5lL1Feb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 12 09:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Some Fresh Radeon EXA/GLAMOR 2D Acceleration Benchmarks - PhoronixFeb 12 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi is the new target to trigger TizenFeb 12 09:50
TweetTuxMachines                 adoption rate https://t.co/NYG2Caqdh2Feb 12 09:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 12 09:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Raspberry Pi is the new target to trigger Tizen adoption rate - Tizen ExpertsFeb 12 09:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7026820Feb 12 09:54
schestowitzhttp://www.infoworld.com/article/3032120/open-source-tools/vcs-who-miss-the-point-of-open-source-shouldnt-fund-it.htmlFeb 12 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Money In Open-Source Software http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/09/the-money-in-open-source-software/ #freeswFeb 12 09:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | VCs who miss the point of open source shouldn't fund it | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oif9n ]Feb 12 09:54
schestowitz"Ah yeah, this response. I’m was starting to get worried about the authors until I read, “Intel.” The errors are not an accident, much if not all of Intel is on the wrong side of software freedom."Feb 12 09:54
schestowitzOf couse, though nvidia is worse in some aspectsFeb 12 09:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/marianico123/status/698083240234635265   https://twitter.com/marianico123/status/698083483781095424Feb 12 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marianico123: @JuanIgnacioCre1 https://t.co/icdUwftbPD este artículo que habla sobre españaFeb 12 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | New EPO Protests Amid Nervous Breakdowns of Spanish EPO Employee (After Institutional Bullying by Battistelli’s Goons), Spain Rejects the Unitary Patent (UPC) | TechrightsFeb 12 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marianico123: @eddyquemas https://t.co/icdUwftbPD lee este artículo compiFeb 12 10:12
schestowitzold:Feb 12 10:14
schestowitz"most of those fragments came from a Chinese anti-satellite test thatFeb 12 10:14
schestowitztargeted the Feng Yun-1C weather satellite in 2007 which created moreFeb 12 10:14
schestowitzthan 3,300 pieces of debris."Feb 12 10:14
schestowitzhttp://globalnews.ca/news/2453752/space-debris-how-dangerous-is-it-to-people-on-earth/Feb 12 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalnews.ca | Space debris: How dangerous is it to people on Earth? | Globalnews.ca [ http://ur1.ca/oifc7 ]Feb 12 10:14
schestowitzKessler SyndromeFeb 12 10:14
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schestowitzhttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/02/11/compare-mike-whitneys-truthful-account-of-syria-with-the-disinformation-published-by-the-washington-post/Feb 12 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.paulcraigroberts.org | Compare Mike Whitney’s Truthful Account Of Syria With The Disinformation Published By The Washington Post - PaulCraigRoberts.org [ http://ur1.ca/oiffa ]Feb 12 10:43
schestowitzMinceR: your take?Feb 12 10:43
schestowitz"There is no such thing as “the Syrian opposition.” The “opposition” consists almost entirely of the Washington-backed ISIS, which Washington sent to Syria to topple the government when Russia blocked the neoconized Obama regime from its plan to invade Syria. Washington, the presstitute media and various bought-and-paid-for “experts” pretend that ISIS is not really ISIS but a “democratic Syrian opposition.” Only an utter foolFeb 12 10:44
schestowitzcould believe this fantasy lie."Feb 12 10:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Back in 2010, Putin put into (slow)motion aFeb 12 10:51
TweetTuxMachines                 move to GNU/Linux." https://t.co/rImjHt5Sc1Feb 12 10:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (mrpogson.com)Feb 12 10:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Russia Going To GNU/Linux Late Rather Than Never | Robert PogsonFeb 12 10:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I’ve created a new runtime based on the latestFeb 12 10:51
TweetTuxMachines                 unstable gnome" https://t.co/uE9OhHV3AoFeb 12 10:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Moderate reviews in GNOME SoftwareFeb 12 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JvwWPdpC3A (blogs.gnome.org) "itFeb 12 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 does make reviewing comments easy."Feb 12 10:52
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MinceRschestowitz: sounds like putin apologismFeb 12 11:02
MinceRthough i suspect there's no force for democracy in syriaFeb 12 11:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux Foundation's big plan to speed upFeb 12 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 storage, networking https://t.co/niv94xfHNkFeb 12 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.infoworld.com) https://t.co/FGzCKLXhKOFeb 12 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | The Linux Foundation's big plan to speed up storage, networking | InfoWorldFeb 12 11:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisetech.com | Open Source Effort Targets Faster Nets, StorageFeb 12 11:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | Endless joined GNOME Advisory Board | Georges StavracasFeb 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #BattlEye for Linux support, good news forFeb 12 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #Arma3 tooFeb 12 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/StqKmyRbTL (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 12 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HlD3uHi7he (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 12 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxFeb 12 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | ARK: Survival Evolved devs throwing money at BattlEye for Linux support, good news for Arma 3 too | GamingOnLinuxFeb 12 11:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | BattlEye anti-cheat now supports Linux, already live in ARK: Survival Evolved | GamingOnLinuxFeb 12 11:21
MinceRhttp://fossbytes.com/apple-watch-users-complain-apple-watch-is-burning-our-skin/Feb 12 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Apple Watch Users Complain: “Apple Watch is Burning Our Skin” [ http://ur1.ca/oiflj ]Feb 12 11:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 12/2/2016: Russian's Government WithFeb 12 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux, India's Wants FOSSFeb 12 11:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/2/2016: Russian’s Government With GNU/Linux, India’s Wants FOSS | TechrightsFeb 12 11:41
cubexyzhave you heard that microsoft will remove the control panel?Feb 12 12:16
cubexyzmay as well, since users have no control anywaysFeb 12 12:16
MinceR:>Feb 12 12:21
MinceRthat would be more honest than what crApple doesFeb 12 12:21
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 12/2/2016: Russian's Government With GNU/Linux, India's Wants...'Feb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With AndroidFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (Linux), More Layoffs ReportedFeb 12 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With Android (Linux), More Layoffs Reported | TechrightsFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/4z7zAkLVa8Feb 12 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Share your love for free softwareFeb 12 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Share your love for free software | Tux MachinesFeb 12 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync withFeb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian, Without Ubuntu Specific PatchesFeb 12 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync with Debian, Without Ubuntu Specific Patches | Tux MachinesFeb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives for Linux, Windows, andFeb 12 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Mac OS X https://t.co/Hoseb4wbGIFeb 12 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives for Linux, Windows, and Mac OS X | Tux MachinesFeb 12 12:22
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/wZ64Kv5Feb 12 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Common Sense - ImgurFeb 12 12:49
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cubexyzneurowhat?Feb 12 12:50
MinceR:)Feb 12 12:53
XRevan86cubexyz: People with alternative ways of thinking.Feb 12 12:59
cubexyzthat sounds like almost everybodyFeb 12 13:00
XRevan86cubexyz: Very alternative.Feb 12 13:00
cubexyzok :)Feb 12 13:00
cubexyzcan you give an example?Feb 12 13:01
XRevan86cubexyz: Schizophrenia should doFeb 12 13:01
XRevan86cubexyz: I suspect that guy made those terms up, but I'm pretty sure he meant all sorts of mental illnesses.Feb 12 13:02
cubexyzno, I think I've heard it used on tvFeb 12 13:02
cubexyzcould be new-ish Feb 12 13:02
XRevan86cubexyz: Great Maker.Feb 12 13:03
cubexyzjust google "neuroatypical" and there's tons of hitsFeb 12 13:03
cubexyzI haven't heard it before 2016 at any rateFeb 12 13:04
XRevan86How twisted can mainstream "tolerance" be?Feb 12 13:04
MinceR140311 < XRevan86> cubexyz: Great Maker.Feb 12 13:06
MinceRShai-Hulud?Feb 12 13:06
XRevan86MinceR: Babylon 5Feb 12 13:06
MinceRah, a memetic epidemicFeb 12 13:07
XRevan86MinceR: Huh?Feb 12 13:07
MinceRreligionFeb 12 13:08
XRevan86MinceR: http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Great_MakerFeb 12 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-babylon5.wikia.com | Great Maker - The Babylon Project - WikiaFeb 12 13:10
XRevan86MinceR: Religion from a TV series, yes.Feb 12 13:10
XRevan86> Wikipedia: Common sense is a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things, which is shared by ("common to") nearly all people and can reasonably be expected of nearly all people without any need for debateFeb 12 13:14
XRevan86apparently there's a need for debate about literally everythingFeb 12 13:15
XRevan86What about things sense of which are defined by that humanity in general and all (neurotypical %)) humans want?Feb 12 13:20
XRevan86Like keeping climate stable. It might not make sense from a future life form perspective that will see humans as some sorts of dinosaurs.Feb 12 13:21
XRevan86And if they are superior, then from a evolution perspective as wellFeb 12 13:21
XRevan86will be*Feb 12 13:22
cubexyzdinos just had very bad luckFeb 12 13:22
XRevan86It's human population that just wants to live on and future generations of humans to live on.Feb 12 13:22
XRevan86in better conditions than nowFeb 12 13:22
XRevan86cubexyz: Yes, but it doesn't really matter for future species who killed themselves and who didn't survive a meteorite.Feb 12 13:24
XRevan86Climate changed and dinos didn't survive that.Feb 12 13:24
XRevan86So, my point: common human sense says that pollution is bad.Feb 12 13:25
cubexyzyou mean machine life?Feb 12 13:26
XRevan86If common sense doesn't matter, then immidiate profits might even be better argumentally covered than solving global problems.Feb 12 13:26
cubexyzseems a bit dubiousFeb 12 13:26
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, I meant that some species will survive and adapt.Feb 12 13:27
cubexyzok, like insects could survive and humans die outFeb 12 13:27
XRevan86and become more advanced and powerful, and maybe even start being sentient (but probably not that).Feb 12 13:27
cubexyzmuch more probableFeb 12 13:27
XRevan86Sentience doesn't make much sense from evolution point of view.Feb 12 13:28
XRevan86He-he, who knows, maybe best course of action for the government is to drug every single human to stimulate happiness.Feb 12 13:30
cubexyzexcept almost all life has it to some degree :)Feb 12 13:30
XRevan86Even neurotypical human would say that's a terrible idea but will he have any real arguments except for vague meaningless of life?Feb 12 13:31
cubexyzwe are just a lot better at manipulating our environmentFeb 12 13:31
cubexyzand better at passing information from generation to generationFeb 12 13:31
XRevan86cubexyz: Humans are smart enough to manipulate environment.Feb 12 13:32
cubexyzevery animal does it thoughFeb 12 13:32
cubexyzbirds build nests, beaver builds damFeb 12 13:32
XRevan86cubexyz: Usually definition of sentience is being as smart as humans are.Feb 12 13:32
XRevan86cubexyz: It's instincts, not the same thing.Feb 12 13:32
XRevan86cubexyz: It's like comparing an AI and build_a_nest.soFeb 12 13:32
cubexyza baby beaver mimicks it's parents and learns from themFeb 12 13:33
cubexyzit isn't born with dam-building capabilityFeb 12 13:33
XRevan86cubexyz: That's better :)Feb 12 13:33
XRevan86cubexyz: Pity all those almost-as-smart-as-humans animals will die with humans.Feb 12 13:35
cubexyzsquirrels can problem solveFeb 12 13:35
cubexyzI've seen them do itFeb 12 13:35
cubexyzI doubt we could botch up stuff enough to kill all lifeFeb 12 13:36
cubexyzwe can't kill all mosquitoesFeb 12 13:36
XRevan86cubexyz: Mosquitoes are very adapting.Feb 12 13:36
cubexyzbut mosquitoes can kill all humans eitherFeb 12 13:36
cubexyzcan't ratherFeb 12 13:36
XRevan86cubexyz: Humans will botch until most of us will die.Feb 12 13:37
XRevan86are dead*Feb 12 13:37
XRevan86cubexyz: And humans are pretty good at survival.Feb 12 13:37
cubexyzhow do you envision that happening?Feb 12 13:37
XRevan86probably better than squirrelsFeb 12 13:37
cubexyzover population -> war ?Feb 12 13:38
cubexyzseems the most likelyFeb 12 13:38
XRevan86cubexyz: I was thinking about continuing pollution and ehancing sterilisation of houses.Feb 12 13:38
cubexyzon the other hand, cave men survived the last ice ageFeb 12 13:38
XRevan86like vacuum doors, advanced water filtersFeb 12 13:39
XRevan86Process will be slow enough for humans not to notice vacuum door is not just a goodie against city dust but an essential against toxic atmosphere.Feb 12 13:40
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, ice age was cold.Feb 12 13:42
XRevan86cubexyz: I think Future is tougher.Feb 12 13:43
XRevan86future will be tougher*Feb 12 13:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to run Windows programs on Linux withFeb 12 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 CrossOver https://t.co/ipKrn9PUfLFeb 12 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 13:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to run Windows programs on Linux with CrossOver | Tux MachinesFeb 12 13:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With AndroidFeb 12 13:43
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (Linux), More Layoffs ReportedFeb 12 13:43
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/HzTbNur97T (techrights.org)Feb 12 13:43
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync...'Feb 12 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Apple and Microsoft Cannot Keep Up With Android (Linux), More Layoffs Reported | TechrightsFeb 12 13:43
XRevan86cubexyz: And I didn't even include war into the equation.Feb 12 13:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston,Feb 12 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME, KDE, EnlightenmentFeb 12 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zpj2KL911c (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 18:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston, GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment | Tux MachinesFeb 12 18:58
MinceR<@dfdashh> divVerent: all new in oracle 12c - auto-increment columns :PFeb 12 19:33
MinceR<@divVerent> now I finally know why they had to buy MySQLFeb 12 19:33
schestowitzinsurance planFeb 12 19:44
schestowitzA search for just the name of the EPO's President now yields several results in the front page bearing techrights, so the negative aspects have become more widely visible. https://www.google.es/search?q=+Beno%C3%AEt+Battistelli&btnG=Buscar&gbv=1 it gets funnier when you click "Images" in Google.Feb 12 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.es | Benoît Battistelli - Buscar con Google [ http://ur1.ca/oihjq ]Feb 12 19:48
schestowitz"Feb 12 19:50
schestowitzBenoît BattistelliFeb 12 19:50
schestowitzBenoît Battistelli is a French civil servant and current president of the European Patent Office. Before taking up this post, he was head of the French National Intellectual Property Institute. WikipediaFeb 12 19:50
schestowitzBorn: July 12, 1950 (age 65), Paris, FranceFeb 12 19:50
schestowitzEducation: École nationale d'administrationFeb 12 19:50
schestowitz"Feb 12 19:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Getting to Know Linux File PermissionsFeb 12 19:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/L63ii8DAqa (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 19:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Getting to Know Linux File Permissions | Tux MachinesFeb 12 19:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Pinterest open-sources its Teletraan tool forFeb 12 19:56
TweetTuxMachines                 deploying code https://t.co/cfl8DBm8IUFeb 12 19:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 12 19:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pinterest open-sources its Teletraan tool for deploying code | Tux MachinesFeb 12 19:56
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schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36094/Feb 12 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: Again?: Putin's internet guru says 'nyet' to Windows, 'da' to desktop LinuxFeb 12 20:15
schestowitz"Feb 12 20:15
schestowitzI've heard this story, before.Feb 12 20:15
schestowitzMaybe the circumstance will be different enough to matter, this time... maybe not.Feb 12 20:15
schestowitz"Feb 12 20:15
schestowitzhttp://www.techworm.net/2016/02/russian-government-decided-to-join-the-linux-club.htmlFeb 12 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Russia to ditch Windows OS, decides to join the Linux club » TechWorm [ http://ur1.ca/oihoe ]Feb 12 20:16
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MinceRhttp://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/11/putin-threat-europe-islamic-state?CMPFeb 12 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Putin is a bigger threat to Europe’s existence than Isis | George Soros | Opinion | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/oihq1 ]Feb 12 20:23
schestowitzneed helpFeb 12 20:24
schestowitzany relation between this company and Microsoft? https://datafox.com/nowsecureFeb 12 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datafox.com | NowSecure Company Profile | Financial Information, Competitors and ExecutivesFeb 12 20:24
schestowitzLike board of directors, former staff etc.?Feb 12 20:24
schestowitzMinceR: Soros writes?Feb 12 20:25
MinceRapparentlyFeb 12 20:25
schestowitzMinceR: "The best way for Russia to avoid collapse is by making the EU implode first – by exacerbating the migration crisis and stoking Islamophobia"Feb 12 20:25
schestowitzBut his hypothesis is legitimateFeb 12 20:25
MinceRthe government of nazi hungary really hates soros nowFeb 12 20:25
schestowitzISIS is not a very potent threat hereFeb 12 20:26
schestowitzMinceR: I think Orban is OK with Putin, have they shaken hands yet?Feb 12 20:26
schestowitzIIRC, Soros escaped Hungary to escape the NazisFeb 12 20:26
MinceRprobablyFeb 12 20:26
MinceRprobably both before and after sexFeb 12 20:26
schestowitz!google orban putin shake handsFeb 12 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Putin finds warm welcome in Hungary, despite European chill ... | http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-hungary-putin-idUKKBN0LL1XP20150217Feb 12 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Trudeau government would stand up to Putin. What about to Orbán? | http://hungarianfreepress.com/2015/10/14/trudeau-government-would-stand-up-to-putin-what-about-to-orban/Feb 12 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Hungary and Russia: The Viktor and Vladimir show - Business Insider | http://www.businessinsider.com/hungary-and-russia-the-viktor-and-vladimir-show-2015-2Feb 12 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Hungary election: Viktor Orban's hold on the voters - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26866071Feb 12 20:27
schestowitzholycrapFeb 12 20:27
schestowitzso much JS in ruetersFeb 12 20:27
schestowitzfrom so many domains other than ReutersFeb 12 20:27
schestowitztrying to see the photos..Feb 12 20:28
schestowitzthey did some photo-opsFeb 12 20:28
schestowitzhttp://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150217&t=2&i=1025817126&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=644&pl=429&sq=&r=LYNXMPEB1G0PRFeb 12 20:28
schestowitzadd the captionFeb 12 20:28
schestowitzLOLLLLLL handshake: http://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150217&t=2&i=1025817125&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=644&pl=429&sq=&r=LYNXMPEB1G0PUFeb 12 20:28
schestowitzI think that answers my questionFeb 12 20:28
MinceRaccording to Balint Magyar and his co-authors, orban takes most of his methodology from putinFeb 12 20:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Benchmarks Of The ODROID-C2 64-Bit ARMFeb 12 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Development Board https://t.co/99zX5gL1fMFeb 12 20:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Benchmarks Of The ODROID-C2 64-Bit ARM Development Board | Tux MachinesFeb 12 20:29
schestowitzhttps://ixquick-proxy.com/do/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2Fmrbpielglobal.edublogs.org%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F03%2Fchotiner-600-1ji4dhg.jpg&sp=e779fa5ae092715da0eeeee736c5d3e8Feb 12 20:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 toFeb 12 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Showcase Its Ubuntu ConvergenceFeb 12 20:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 to Showcase Its Ubuntu Convergence | Tux MachinesFeb 12 20:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: More adventures with Manjaro-ARM forFeb 12 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 the Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/0d4DwRqNghFeb 12 20:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: More adventures with Manjaro-ARM for the Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 12 20:29
schestowitzif putler goes ballistic, orban will have some 'splaining to doFeb 12 20:30
MinceRhe already has plentyFeb 12 20:30
MinceRbut most of the people of nazi hungary don't careFeb 12 20:30
schestowitzThat's like me shaking Sarah Sharp's hand for the camera in some linux conferenceFeb 12 20:31
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 to...'Feb 12 21:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/wiTiA5K8LEFeb 12 21:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 12 21:18
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/linking-to-unlawful-content-what-will.html?showComment=1455230451086#c2565588552966867590]Feb 12 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Linking to unlawful content: what will the CJEU say?Feb 12 21:35
schestowitz" Anonymous, did you get that info from February 3's hearing that Germany, Portugal, Slovakia and the Commission said that the link isn't a communication to the public? I'm from Canada, but I heard that from OpenMedia. "Feb 12 21:35
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/TTunN6HFeb 12 22:25
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cubexyzthis old cpu fan is acting a bit strangeFeb 13 02:19
cubexyzit works, I can see it spinningFeb 13 02:20
cubexyzbut about half the time it makes a loud whirrrrr soundFeb 13 02:20
cubexyzthen later on it stops, making almost no sound but still spinsFeb 13 02:20
MinceRstrange indeedFeb 13 02:29
MinceRmaybe it's dyingFeb 13 02:29
cubexyzmy P3 Katmai cpu fans still workFeb 13 02:29
cubexyzwell, all the fans work actuallyFeb 13 02:30
cubexyzat least 17 years oldFeb 13 02:31
cubexyzthe Amiga 500 turns 30 years old next year :)Feb 13 02:38
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MinceR:)Feb 13 02:43
MinceRthe end of hurd: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.htmlFeb 13 02:46
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cubexyznot sure what Hurd uses for initFeb 13 02:50
cubexyzit's not systemd thoughFeb 13 02:50
MinceRDMDFeb 13 02:50
MinceRor more accurately, GNU DMDFeb 13 02:51
cubexyzah rightFeb 13 02:51
MinceRbut it has to go as it's not bloated and fragile enoughFeb 13 02:51
MinceRand a multiserver microkernel system desperately needs a component that's prone to failure and can't be restarted gracefullyFeb 13 02:51
MinceRalso, they renamed GNU dmd to GNU ShepherdFeb 13 02:51
MinceRwhy rename something they want to kill?Feb 13 02:52
cubexyzI have a theory about why there's so much software churnFeb 13 02:52
cubexyzwhat I believe happens is the oldsters get bored/tired/disinterest in whatever project they worked onFeb 13 02:53
MinceRi just thought this is how the gratis windows foundation earns their funding from redcrapFeb 13 02:53
cubexyzoldster leaves... void is filled by newbie with their own ideasFeb 13 02:53
cubexyzproject morphes or diesFeb 13 02:53
MinceRnot really ownFeb 13 02:54
MinceRmore like m$'s/poettering'sFeb 13 02:54
cubexyzKDE is a perfect exampleFeb 13 02:54
cubexyzpoettering didn't invent UEFI :)Feb 13 02:56
cubexyzcan't blame him for everythingFeb 13 02:56
cubexyzblame him for polutting Linux, yesFeb 13 02:57
cubexyzpollutingFeb 13 02:57
MinceRprobably m$ didFeb 13 02:57
MinceRand i can blame poettering for forcing all the toxic m$ shit into */linux he couldFeb 13 02:58
cubexyzyes, Microsoft did have a hand in UEFI's inventionFeb 13 02:58
MinceRi suspect it was all m$ peopleFeb 13 02:58
MinceRwith an intel rubberstampFeb 13 02:58
MinceRit stinks of m$Feb 13 02:58
cubexyzAMI and the rest were never very helpful eitherFeb 13 02:59
cubexyzso yes, wintel is still alive and wellFeb 13 03:00
oiaohmTo be truthful the core part systemd depends on cgroups starts in hurd.Feb 13 03:00
MinceRirrelevanFeb 13 03:01
MinceRtFeb 13 03:01
MinceRmultiserver microkernel systems are about small components that can be restarted if they failFeb 13 03:01
MinceRsystemd is a huge monolithic hairball that holds a fuckton of state and very prone to failureFeb 13 03:01
cubexyzgoogle started cgroups from what I understandFeb 13 03:04
cubexyzit's a post 2.6.24 thingFeb 13 03:04
oiaohmcubexyz: the experiment came in hurd.   One thing hurd has been good for is a place to try out highly hazard stuff.Feb 13 03:05
cubexyzclearly we can live without cgroups thoughFeb 13 03:05
oiaohmMinceR:  http://www.sensi.org/~alec/unix/redhat/sysvinit.html  Can you list why we have to replace sysvinit.Feb 13 03:06
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oiaohmLot of saying that we can live without cgroups is not exactly understanding the problem.Feb 13 03:06
cubexyzoiaohm, I don't need cgroupsFeb 13 03:07
MinceRoiaohm: we don't have toFeb 13 03:07
cubexyzsimple :)Feb 13 03:07
MinceRoiaohm: we're not redhatFeb 13 03:07
oiaohmThis says head in sand.Feb 13 03:07
MinceRoiaohm: however, we can offer replacements for people to adopt.Feb 13 03:07
MinceRoiaohm: there's a difference.Feb 13 03:07
cubexyzI'm running games, server, video stuff on a collection of computersFeb 13 03:07
oiaohmWhy should you not use a PID to track processes?Feb 13 03:07
oiaohmUnder Linux.Feb 13 03:08
cubexyzso my cgroup is merely a different computer, see?Feb 13 03:08
MinceRoiaohm: now of course if you know that the replacement you'd develop is a horrible piece of shit, you have every reason for forcing people to switch to itFeb 13 03:08
cubexyze.g. this computer is the IRC group :)Feb 13 03:08
oiaohmMinceR: I have pushed for openrc in debian.Feb 13 03:08
MinceRoiaohm: if it was usable, if it worked, people would adopt it on their own. but if it's as shitty as cancerd, it has to be forced.Feb 13 03:08
cubexyzanother computer is the video computerFeb 13 03:08
oiaohmAnd I did not get it.Feb 13 03:08
cubexyzetc, etcFeb 13 03:08
MinceRoiaohm: i've seen debian's answers to openrcFeb 13 03:08
MinceR"it's not ready and we must switch NOW!"Feb 13 03:08
MinceRcompare to systemdFeb 13 03:08
MinceRit isn't ready, it will never be ready, it doesn't work, it will never workFeb 13 03:09
cubexyzoiaohm, I still use Unix v5 and 2.11BSD and 4.3BSD Feb 13 03:09
MinceR"got to adopt it NOW and force it on the users!"Feb 13 03:09
MinceRfuck debilian.Feb 13 03:09
cubexyzusing older tech is no problemFeb 13 03:09
oiaohmcubexyz: Unix v5 does not recycle PID numbers.Feb 13 03:09
MinceRthey're clueless and incompetent.Feb 13 03:09
cubexyzoiaohm, probably openbsd doesn't eitherFeb 13 03:09
oiaohmcubexyz: basically there is a bit of Linux kernel operation that makes it sysvinit incompadible.Feb 13 03:09
oiaohmcubexyz: openbsd rc depends on tty to track processes because it recycles PID numbers.Feb 13 03:10
MinceRoiaohm: oh, and by the way, cgroups doesn't even fucking work.Feb 13 03:10
cubexyzoiaohm, my FC1 server runs fine, and it is definitely pre-2.6.24 kernelFeb 13 03:10
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MinceRhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/743970d2ea6d08aa7c7bff8220f6b7702f2b1db7Feb 13 03:10
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oiaohmMinceR: cgroup as a process tracking tag does always work.Feb 13 03:10
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MinceRhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170765Feb 13 03:11
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cubexyzit's 2.4.22 kernel Feb 13 03:11
MinceRoiaohm: the one technology cancerd is cargoculting can't do the job of a service manager.Feb 13 03:11
cubexyzso after 10 years it still works fine, I'm happy with itFeb 13 03:11
cubexyzsome even use 2.2 linux kernelFeb 13 03:11
MinceRoiaohm: cancerd as a service manager is a perfect failure.Feb 13 03:11
oiaohmMinceR: in fact cgroups had not be pushed in the Linux kernel before systemd.Feb 13 03:11
MinceRnobody cares.Feb 13 03:12
oiaohmSo it dug out a few kernel bugs.Feb 13 03:12
oiaohmIn fact first version of cgroups ie cgroups v1 is currently being completley scrapped and replaced with cgroup v2 in kernel.Feb 13 03:12
MinceRnobody cares.Feb 13 03:12
MinceRratcrap and their cult is fucking up software to force people to use cancerd NOW.Feb 13 03:13
MinceRit isn't fucking ready.Feb 13 03:13
MinceReven cgroups isn't fucking ready.Feb 13 03:13
cubexyzMinceR, even in Linuxland there's alternatives, lots of themFeb 13 03:13
MinceRthis has been going on for over 4 years, without improvement.Feb 13 03:13
cubexyzslackware for oneFeb 13 03:13
MinceRcubexyz: yeah, and you can see what treatment they get from the cultists.Feb 13 03:13
oiaohmMinceR: that nspawn error is caused by cgroup v1 design error.Feb 13 03:13
MinceRhttps://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.htmlFeb 13 03:14
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MinceRhttp://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/03764.htmlFeb 13 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: careful review of kdbus [ http://ur1.ca/n2vc5 ]Feb 13 03:14
oiaohmMinceR: firmware driver drop was directed by kernel that has a in kernel space firmware loader.Feb 13 03:14
MinceRoiaohm: debilian has come out with an allegedly "stable" version of their alleged OS that forces people to use systemd.Feb 13 03:14
MinceRoiaohm: meanwhile, systemd still can't do its fucking job as an alleged init system properly.Feb 13 03:14
MinceRthis is a colossal fuckupFeb 13 03:15
oiaohmcgroup working correct to it can be used required higher up take rate.Feb 13 03:15
MinceRso broken shit has to be forced into mission critical environments?Feb 13 03:16
MinceRno fucking way.Feb 13 03:16
oiaohmComplaining about udev firmware loading disappear means that you don't know that to be include in kernel drivers were forbin from using that since 2003.Feb 13 03:16
cubexyzI don't see any big problem, just use the software you likeFeb 13 03:16
cubexyzthat's my advice Feb 13 03:16
MinceRthis is not software engineering, this is dangerous idiocy, this is incompetence.Feb 13 03:16
oiaohmUnless you are running really old software the udev change should do nothing.Feb 13 03:16
MinceRthis is every bit of the malicious systematic fucking up people fled windows for.Feb 13 03:16
MinceRudev is toxic, linux should stop depending on it.Feb 13 03:17
cubexyzI wanted to keep KDE 3.5.10 so I did :)Feb 13 03:17
oiaohmudev predateds systemd by a long way.Feb 13 03:17
MinceRoh, and that alleged "stable" version of debilian came out months agoFeb 13 03:17
MinceRdoesn't matter, they've assimilated it.Feb 13 03:17
oiaohmIn fact part of the systemd process has seen unused code like the udev firmware loader stripped out of it.Feb 13 03:17
MinceRnobody cares.Feb 13 03:18
oiaohmFunny as soon as it not going the way you want is magically nobody cares.Feb 13 03:18
MinceRfunny, the way i want is "reliable and secure"Feb 13 03:18
MinceRit's sad that it is not your way.Feb 13 03:18
MinceRit is sad that it's not debilian's or ratcrap's way.Feb 13 03:19
cubexyzno one likes slack? :)Feb 13 03:19
oiaohmRemember VM being hacked by floppy drive  MinceRFeb 13 03:19
MinceRapparently.Feb 13 03:19
MinceRoiaohm: remember shells not saving history on shutdown.Feb 13 03:19
MinceRoiaohm: remember computers not booting due to systemd bugs in alleged "stable" release.Feb 13 03:19
MinceRoiaohm: think about which you'd want running on your life support.Feb 13 03:19
oiaohmsysvinit systems not booting happened before systemdFeb 13 03:20
MinceRthe one that has some extra unused code but _works_ or the one that kills you?Feb 13 03:20
oiaohmNot like the system was bugless before it.Feb 13 03:20
MinceRjust a lot less buggyFeb 13 03:20
oiaohmNot really.Feb 13 03:20
MinceRand a lot more mature by the time systemd was forced on people.Feb 13 03:20
MinceRyes really.Feb 13 03:20
oiaohmMulti partition loads under sysvinit in a lot of cases lead to horible problems.Feb 13 03:20
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Adoption_and_receptionFeb 13 03:21
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oiaohmBecause the core partitions had not be mounted by the initrdFeb 13 03:21
oiaohmLot issues was caused with distrobutions fighting with systemd over boot up.Feb 13 03:21
MinceRevery distribution with a date in the "Date released as default" column is an unstable, unreliable, insecure toy system not worth relying on.Feb 13 03:21
cubexyzwouldn't every *nix have to recycle PIDs eventually?Feb 13 03:21
MinceRand those are most of the "major" distrosFeb 13 03:21
oiaohmcubexyz: in fact no some unix when they get to max PID simple kernel panic and reboot.Feb 13 03:22
MinceRcubexyz: not once they integrate everything in pid1Feb 13 03:22
MinceRapparently multiprocessing is something that happens to other people.Feb 13 03:22
MinceRooh, "some unix"Feb 13 03:22
MinceRlet me guess.Feb 13 03:22
MinceRit's fucking slowlaris again, right?Feb 13 03:22
oiaohmcubexyz: system V is in that class.Feb 13 03:22
cubexyzI'll ask the oldsters in TUHSFeb 13 03:22
cubexyzoiaohm, what about very old Unix like v5?Feb 13 03:23
MinceRsomeone completely fucked up their unix imitation and now it's an excuse for everything.Feb 13 03:23
MinceRi'm fucking tired of these drooling idiots posing as software engineers and fucking up everything for everybodyFeb 13 03:23
oiaohmcubexyz: I would have to look it up.   PID recycling is fairly new.   It was mostly believed the Unix systems would not run long enough to get to max.Feb 13 03:23
cubexyzold process ends, new process can reuse the PID yes?Feb 13 03:23
MinceRthey should be locked in their playpen and prevented from doing any more damageFeb 13 03:24
MinceRcubexyz: if its parent has waited on it, yesFeb 13 03:24
MinceRwell, the dave cutler school of OS "design" will ensure that systems would not run long enough to get to maxFeb 13 03:24
MinceRyou can count yourself lucky if they even manage to bootFeb 13 03:24
cubexyzwell init stays PID 1 I know thatFeb 13 03:26
cubexyzso that's an exceptionFeb 13 03:26
oiaohmcubexyz: a lot use a simple next PID is +1 to the old PID in the non recycling.Feb 13 03:26
cubexyzswapper is usually PID 2Feb 13 03:26
cubexyzhow large a number can PID be?Feb 13 03:26
MinceRat least 16 bitsFeb 13 03:26
MinceRnot sure if signedFeb 13 03:27
cubexyzon FC1 (running well over one year now) my largest PID is 22000Feb 13 03:27
oiaohmMinceR: unsigned.Feb 13 03:27
MinceRand pid0 is probably unavailableFeb 13 03:27
MinceRas fork() can't return that to the parentFeb 13 03:27
cubexyzoiaohm, the PIDs on my server seem pretty stableFeb 13 03:27
cubexyzI'll snapshot it from week to week to check moreFeb 13 03:28
cubexyzmy STIME on some PIDs is 2014 :)Feb 13 03:28
MinceRshows you're not running systemdFeb 13 03:29
oiaohmhttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/16883/what-is-the-maximum-value-of-the-pid-of-a-process   This is the scary part Linux PID values are not that large.Feb 13 03:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unix.stackexchange.com | What is the maximum value of the PID of a process? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange [ http://ur1.ca/oijs9 ]Feb 13 03:30
cubexyzwhat is it 65536?Feb 13 03:30
cubexyzor 65535 maybeFeb 13 03:30
cubexyzoh it is signed? that's weirdFeb 13 03:31
MinceRyeah, that's the scary partFeb 13 03:31
oiaohm32768 for 32 bit and 22 to the 2 or 4 million for 64 bit.Feb 13 03:31
oiaohmThat is all the PID numbers Linux has.Feb 13 03:31
MinceRnot that an unreadable hairball is forced onto allegedly free systems by fascistoid cultistsFeb 13 03:31
oiaohmAfter it allocated all those it has to start recycling.Feb 13 03:31
oiaohmor kernel panic or fail to start processes.Feb 13 03:32
cubexyzthe kernel PIDs don't seem to changeFeb 13 03:32
cubexyz1,2,3,4 etcFeb 13 03:32
oiaohmWhen you think it can be starting a many new PIDs per web request on a server it does not take that long to spin through 4 million.Feb 13 03:33
MinceRunless it's using a thread poolFeb 13 03:33
MinceRor process poolFeb 13 03:33
oiaohmMinceR: PHP does not.Feb 13 03:33
cubexyzsure, someone could be DOSing your serverFeb 13 03:33
MinceRkeep a bunch of workers alive, hand out work to themFeb 13 03:33
MinceRlol phpFeb 13 03:33
cubexyzbut you could restart apache or somethingFeb 13 03:33
MinceRwell, i guess it's possible to do worse than phpFeb 13 03:33
MinceRyou could be using asp or asp.netFeb 13 03:34
cubexyznot me!Feb 13 03:34
cubexyzperish the thoughtFeb 13 03:34
oiaohmSo reality is sysvinit had to be replaced by something.Feb 13 03:34
MinceRi wonder when will poettering realize that iis, asp and asp.net are so great their "design" has to be forced on unix webservers tooFeb 13 03:34
oiaohmLinux + sysvinit was equallying problems.Feb 13 03:34
MinceRoiaohm: no, it didn't have to be replaced by anythingFeb 13 03:34
MinceRno, not equal problemsFeb 13 03:35
cubexyzoiaohm, but Radio Shack and tons of companies ran sysv on XenixFeb 13 03:35
oiaohmMinceR: or the Linux kernel had to be replaced or altered.Feb 13 03:35
MinceRa small bit of c code and a bunch of simple shell scripts are far easier to maintain and understandFeb 13 03:35
cubexyzand I don't remember hearing about problemsFeb 13 03:35
MinceRoiaohm: i know! kdbus will totally fix it!Feb 13 03:35
cubexyzgas stations ran XenixFeb 13 03:35
MinceRstill not as bad as RHELl 7Feb 13 03:36
oiaohmTo keep sysvinit as it was PID had to be made non recycling like make PID max a 64 bit number.Feb 13 03:36
MinceRactually, pidfiles are unlikely to cause issues even thenFeb 13 03:36
MinceRalso, you're again ignoring the fact that a service manager can run outside pid1, even alongside sysvinitFeb 13 03:36
cubexyzyou would have to fork bomb to run out of PIDsFeb 13 03:36
MinceReven multiple service managers, if you want itFeb 13 03:37
MinceRall sysvinit has to do is reap zombiesFeb 13 03:37
MinceRwhich, by the way, cancerd ALSO fails at.Feb 13 03:37
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cubexyzI see exactly two defunct processes, both from sshdFeb 13 03:37
oiaohmTo be correct the cases of systemd not reap zombies also applied sysvinitFeb 13 03:38
cubexyzafter 462 days (so far)Feb 13 03:38
MinceRyet i see no zombies on sysvinit systemsFeb 13 03:38
MinceRand i've seen reports of zombies on systemd systemsFeb 13 03:38
oiaohmMinceR: are you running cgroup management.Feb 13 03:38
MinceReven though sysvinit systems have been around for _far_ longerFeb 13 03:38
MinceRnoFeb 13 03:38
oiaohmLike lxc or docker.Feb 13 03:38
oiaohmThat is way.Feb 13 03:38
oiaohmBug in lower cgroup code leading to zombie not finding way to process 0Feb 13 03:39
MinceRmy init system is not cargo culting cgroupsFeb 13 03:39
MinceRso the almighty cgroups are fucked up and now this is somehow sysvinit's fault?Feb 13 03:39
oiaohmSystemd made the problem visable.Feb 13 03:39
MinceRwhich was around for decades before cgroups?Feb 13 03:39
oiaohmsysvinit also had issue with chroots at times for the same reason.Feb 13 03:40
MinceRdoes systemd somehow destroy users' reasoning abilities or what?Feb 13 03:40
cubexyzit totally does!Feb 13 03:40
oiaohmThe start of bug was added to Linux kernel in 1993Feb 13 03:40
MinceRguess what, i can even build a kernel without fucking cgroups supportFeb 13 03:40
MinceRand then it won't generate these zombiesFeb 13 03:40
oiaohmThe start of the bug that causes zombies not to reaped starts in 1993 in chroot code.Feb 13 03:40
cubexyzyou install windows 10 then your entire computer is a zombieFeb 13 03:41
oiaohmNot detected properly until systemd started using cgroup heavily.Feb 13 03:41
MinceRsysvinit starts in 1983Feb 13 03:41
MinceRso apparently chroot support and/or cgroup support somehow gained access to a fucking time machineFeb 13 03:42
MinceRwent back in time to 1983Feb 13 03:42
MinceRand introduced bugs into sysvinitFeb 13 03:42
oiaohmI did not say where that bug was copied form.Feb 13 03:42
MinceRnotice that even Linux didn't exist in 1983Feb 13 03:43
oiaohmSystem V implementation of chroot was what Linux one was based on.Feb 13 03:43
cubexyzsysvinit started as sys3 initFeb 13 03:43
MinceRalso, there are plenty of service managers that rely on being the parent process of the daemons they runFeb 13 03:43
MinceRnone of them are impacted by the pid reuse issueFeb 13 03:43
oiaohmThis is a bug that has come forwards and forwards and forwards.Feb 13 03:43
MinceRmost of them can run as any pid you'd likeFeb 13 03:43
oiaohmWhat happens when a feature does not have a proper test suite.Feb 13 03:44
oiaohmThe mess of systemd has at long last got the Linux kernel adding a mainline test suite.Feb 13 03:44
MinceRregardless of how poettering wishes it was, cancerd is _not_ necessary to fix this.Feb 13 03:44
MinceRand in fact, it doesn't!Feb 13 03:44
MinceRpity it didn't result in a test suite being added to the management of distributions like debilianFeb 13 03:45
cubexyzand FC1 does reuse PID for sureFeb 13 03:45
oiaohmIts funny how many faults blamed on systemd in fact predate it massivelyFeb 13 03:45
MinceRmaybe it would have prevented them from betraying their alleged values and their usersFeb 13 03:45
MinceRit's funny how many faults blamed on sysvinit have nothing to do with sysvinitFeb 13 03:45
oiaohmNot being safe against PID recycling is a sysvinit design selection because sysvinit manaul for sysvinit scripts tell you to track services by PID values.Feb 13 03:46
MinceRdoes that somehow prevent you from instead having services not fork (or double fork) and track them as child processes?Feb 13 03:46
oiaohmSo we need a new manual telling people to redo their scripts not needing it.Feb 13 03:46
MinceRa new manual is preferable to a malicious hairball with no documentation, that's for sureFeb 13 03:47
cubexyzyup, my max pid is 32768Feb 13 03:47
oiaohmPID limit is what made staying with sysvinit the way it was not possible.Feb 13 03:48
oiaohmIf you are getting away with it with sysvinit you are just being lucky.Feb 13 03:48
oiaohmopenrc still had the anti-cgroup camp against it. and the I stupidly keep on pushing sysvinit camp that was broken so go in ignore pile.Feb 13 03:49
MinceRyeah, the stupid anti-cgroup camp resisted the Holy Cgroup, even though we all know cgroup is fucking brokenFeb 13 03:50
MinceRhow dare they!Feb 13 03:50
cubexyzit wraps the PID and then just skips over PIDs that are in useFeb 13 03:50
oiaohmIf everyone who had been pushing for sysvinit instead had pushed for openrc that was a working option with optional cgroup usage.Feb 13 03:50
oiaohmThe vote would have gone the other way in debian.Feb 13 03:50
cubexyzvery simple systemFeb 13 03:50
MinceRoiaohm: can you explain to me how it is impossible to run runit under sysvinit and have runit manage services?Feb 13 03:51
MinceRno, the vote would not have gone any other way for a simple reasonFeb 13 03:51
MinceRthe leadership of debilian was compromisedFeb 13 03:51
MinceRprobably via gnomeFeb 13 03:51
MinceRsee the tie-breaking of the TC vote.Feb 13 03:51
MinceRabsolutely corrupt.Feb 13 03:52
MinceRand the path that led there also shows that debilian's leadership is corruptFeb 13 03:52
oiaohmMinceR:  if you leave sysvinit you will have places making stuff up stream keep on pushing out sysvinit only scripts that don't use runit.Feb 13 03:52
MinceRoiaohm: i don't care. properly written daemons are easy to start in nonforking modeFeb 13 03:52
oiaohmThis case you do need the new init system to either wrap over the sysvinit script so sysvinit running under it or demard new scripts.Feb 13 03:52
MinceRor i can write new scriptsFeb 13 03:53
MinceRand upstream can provide support for runitFeb 13 03:53
oiaohmDebian had runit in for years and name how many sevices requested it.Feb 13 03:53
MinceRnow, on the other hand, if upstream introduces gratuitous dependencies on systemd, that's more difficult to fix.Feb 13 03:53
oiaohmMinceR: the answer is 0Feb 13 03:53
MinceRoiaohm: it's not up to the services to decide what service manager i use.Feb 13 03:54
oiaohmThe reality we had a mess.Feb 13 03:54
MinceRoiaohm: it's up to me.Feb 13 03:54
oiaohmSevices provide the default scripts.Feb 13 03:54
MinceRoiaohm: looks like you've already forgot this old model where poettering wasn't in charge of all decisions about what happens on a */linux system.Feb 13 03:54
oiaohmIn fact most services under debian did not provide scripts for runit.Feb 13 03:54
MinceRi don't give a fuck about the default scripts.Feb 13 03:54
oiaohmOr any other init systems bar sysvinit.Feb 13 03:55
MinceRif i want to, i'll run the service from GNU screen from the command line.Feb 13 03:55
oiaohmSo most cases you could not change init systems.Feb 13 03:55
oiaohmSo debian init neturality was mostly a joke.Feb 13 03:55
MinceRif i want to, i'll run it from any service manager i want to run it from.Feb 13 03:55
MinceRno, it was notFeb 13 03:55
cubexyzwrite your own service manager :)Feb 13 03:55
MinceRdebian7 didn't self-destruct because i didn't want to replace half of my userland with malware.Feb 13 03:56
oiaohmMinceR: lot of services would play up if you did put them under tracking service managers.Feb 13 03:56
MinceRnowadays i'm told that this is impossibleFeb 13 03:56
MinceReven as i'm still doing it!Feb 13 03:56
MinceRoiaohm: lots of software is crap.Feb 13 03:56
MinceRoiaohm: that's no excuse for forcing even more crap software on everyone.Feb 13 03:56
MinceRespecially not if it's even more crap!Feb 13 03:57
MinceRhell, debian7 debootstrap lets you install a system without cancerdFeb 13 03:57
oiaohm2002 debian passed that all packages was to support 3 init systems.Feb 13 03:57
MinceRthey fucked that up in debilian 8 for the sake of forcing cancerd on usersFeb 13 03:57
oiaohmThat got ignored.Feb 13 03:57
MinceRand when devuan folks fixed it, debilian didn't integrate the patch.Feb 13 03:58
oiaohmsystemd fairly much dropped hammer.Feb 13 03:58
MinceRooh, worship the almighty hammer!Feb 13 03:58
MinceRif you love centralized control so much, why don't you use windows?Feb 13 03:58
MinceRm$ calls all the shots thereFeb 13 03:58
MinceRyou can see how well it worked outFeb 13 03:58
oiaohmControl was already centralised on sysvinit that did not work in all cases.Feb 13 03:58
MinceRand yet it worked far more reliably than systemdFeb 13 03:59
MinceRand it still doesFeb 13 03:59
oiaohmSystemd has now stuffed it up public enough that people have to talk about it.Feb 13 03:59
cubexyzyes, I mentioned my uptime :)Feb 13 03:59
MinceRand it did even before poettering decided it would be fun to turn gnu/linux into windowsFeb 13 03:59
oiaohmSo in that reguard it been sucessful.Feb 13 03:59
MinceRbut for the sake of foisting malware onto people, we must now pretend that sysvinit was so brokenFeb 13 03:59
MinceRand it must be replaced with something that's not only a lot more broken, but is also unfixableFeb 13 04:00
MinceRgreat plan, isn't it?Feb 13 04:00
oiaohmNot pretend sysvinit was broken.Feb 13 04:00
MinceRso logicalFeb 13 04:00
MinceRread all the wordsFeb 13 04:00
MinceRthey're thereFeb 13 04:00
cubexyzFC1: 22:59:42 up 462 days, 10:31, 7 users, load average: 0.07, 0.11, 0.09Feb 13 04:00
MinceRi can still see them.Feb 13 04:00
oiaohmBut due to people having head in sand that sysvinit was broken we got stuck with system.Feb 13 04:00
oiaohmopps systemdFeb 13 04:00
MinceRoh huhFeb 13 04:00
MinceRwhat do you call people pretending that cgroups can be used for reliable process management?Feb 13 04:01
MinceRwhat's their head in?Feb 13 04:01
MinceRa blender?Feb 13 04:01
cubexyzextra dense sand :)Feb 13 04:01
oiaohmReally debian vote most likely would have went to openrc if the people who would not vote because sysvinit had been removed had instead voted openrcFeb 13 04:01
MinceRdoesn't matterFeb 13 04:01
oiaohmSame with many of the other Distrobution votes.Feb 13 04:01
oiaohmSame failure happened over and over again.Feb 13 04:01
MinceRdebian has failed to live up to its promisesFeb 13 04:02
MinceRthey've sold out to RHFeb 13 04:02
MinceRand the FSF apparently also sold out to RHFeb 13 04:02
oiaohmWho was maintaining sysvinit by the way MinceRFeb 13 04:02
MinceRand RH sold out to m$Feb 13 04:02
MinceRoiaohm: i don't know, i don't care.Feb 13 04:02
oiaohmFunnyFeb 13 04:02
oiaohmSysvinit was maintained by RedhatFeb 13 04:02
MinceRoiaohm: one of the excuses was that it wasn't updated for so longFeb 13 04:02
MinceRguess whyFeb 13 04:02
MinceRbecause it was mature.Feb 13 04:03
MinceRunlike cancerdFeb 13 04:03
oiaohmMature was a good excuse never to fix it faults or even consider it had faults.Feb 13 04:03
MinceRwhich has spent over 4 years of being forced onto users who allegedly are receiving a "stable" systemFeb 13 04:03
MinceRand it still doesn't fucking work!Feb 13 04:03
cubexyzwhoever maintains sysvinit-utilsFeb 13 04:03
MinceRit still needs a lot of things to be fixed so that it can do its most basic job rightFeb 13 04:03
oiaohmopenrc 2005 started by gentoo because gentoo worked out sysvinit was stuffed.Feb 13 04:03
MinceRand yet it's doing hundreds of other tasks, most of them also atrociouslyFeb 13 04:03
oiaohmopenrc was the older solution.Feb 13 04:04
oiaohmThat worked.Feb 13 04:04
MinceRoiaohm: so, how often does sysvinit fail to shutdown a system properly?Feb 13 04:04
cubexyzMiquel van SmoorenburgFeb 13 04:04
oiaohmMinceR: lot more than you think.Feb 13 04:04
MinceRoiaohm: how often does sysvinit decide that fsck has worked for long enough and it's now time to ignore it and resume booting?Feb 13 04:04
cubexyzsend patches to: sysvinit-devel@nongnu.orgFeb 13 04:05
MinceRoiaohm: how often does sysvinit fail to boot because the computer has no internet connection?Feb 13 04:05
oiaohmMinceR: sysvinit cannot force a service to stop if it fails the stop script and hangs a sysvinit system will not shut down.Feb 13 04:05
MinceRoh reallyFeb 13 04:05
MinceRi wonder what's that whole "remount everything readonly; send SIGTERM to everybody; wait; send SIGKILL to everybody; shutdown" thing is forFeb 13 04:05
oiaohmMinceR: no oh really its sysvinit design to depend on scripts means it shutdown is depending on the grace of god.Feb 13 04:05
MinceRwell, i guess remounting happens laterFeb 13 04:06
MinceRyou'll notice a little detail that somehow eluded systemdFeb 13 04:06
MinceRwaiting for processes to exit gracefully before forcibly terminating them!Feb 13 04:06
oiaohmMinceR: the remount everything read only is not in upstream sysvinitFeb 13 04:06
MinceRwell, it looks like my god (myself) is pretty fucking gracefulFeb 13 04:06
cubexyzin the old days we just sync;sync;sync then hit off switchFeb 13 04:07
MinceRfunny, i'm pretty sure i've seen it in every distro i triedFeb 13 04:07
cubexyzthere wasn't even a shutdown or haltFeb 13 04:07
oiaohmMinceR: every distrobution was patching sysvinit down stream.Feb 13 04:07
MinceRnow imagine trying to patch cancerd downstreamFeb 13 04:07
MinceRwading through cryptic uncommented masses of codeFeb 13 04:07
oiaohmMinceR: as cubexyz said sync, sync ,sync kill power that is how sysvinit was upstream still coded for.Feb 13 04:08
MinceRbeing exposed to attacks from upstream for not transmitting the gospel as it isFeb 13 04:08
MinceRoiaohm: why does sysvinit upstream have support for shutting down the system, then?Feb 13 04:08
MinceRwhy does sysvinit have special handling for those signals at all?Feb 13 04:08
oiaohmMinceR: handling those singles does not mean you have todo it sanely.    sysvinit thought you want to power off while you filesystems were writable.Feb 13 04:09
MinceRat least on sysvinit it's possible to run an anonymous vpn serviceFeb 13 04:10
MinceRhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2447Feb 13 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | journal ip anonymization · Issue #2447 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/oijy1 ]Feb 13 04:10
cubexyzI'm not saying sysvinit was perfect, but it did work for meFeb 13 04:12
MinceRit worked for me tooFeb 13 04:12
MinceRand it worked for the sysadmins i know struggle with cancerd bugsFeb 13 04:12
MinceRand it works for the privacy-respecting vpn services tooFeb 13 04:13
oiaohmMinceR: it is possible to build systemd without journald but its not offered that way.Feb 13 04:13
oiaohmMinceR: but at least this is a valid complaint that needs improvement.Feb 13 04:14
MinceRoiaohm: yet for some unfathomable reason, the closest anyone came to offering this atrocity with a reasonable logging service involves letting systemd-journald fuck around with every line of log before passing it onFeb 13 04:14
MinceRthat complaint will not be improved.Feb 13 04:14
MinceRIntolerant Regent P has spokenFeb 13 04:15
MinceRthe bug is closedFeb 13 04:15
MinceRratcrap doesn't care about your use casesFeb 13 04:15
MinceRend of story.Feb 13 04:15
cubexyzexcept for old redhat and old fedora :)Feb 13 04:15
MinceRthose are unsupportedFeb 13 04:15
MinceRthen again, i doubt anything from ratcrap was ever supportedFeb 13 04:15
MinceRwhen their attitude can be summed up as "the nsa's wishes are more important than yours; now hand us your money and fuck off"Feb 13 04:16
cubexyzI bet they would if you give them enough $$$Feb 13 04:16
MinceRi doubt itFeb 13 04:16
MinceRand i don't see why anyone would want to do business with a company like thatFeb 13 04:16
cubexyzok, well I'm the support for FC1Feb 13 04:16
MinceR:>Feb 13 04:17
cubexyzthe world's last oneFeb 13 04:17
MinceRbut hey, we can finally have multiseat serversFeb 13 04:17
oiaohmMinceR: rsyslog has a over wrapper log program as well to prevent application lieing about who it is.Feb 13 04:17
MinceRthat's such an important use caseFeb 13 04:17
oiaohmMinceR: so there was a need for a log wrapper.Feb 13 04:17
oiaohmMinceR: and we really did not need 40 of them.Feb 13 04:18
MinceRoiaohm: now if only you could have your daemons log directly to rsyslog on a lendows systemFeb 13 04:18
MinceRbut you can't.Feb 13 04:18
oiaohmWriting straight into rsyslog you can lie.Feb 13 04:18
MinceRand writing through systemd-journald, you can sanitize your logs _after_ they've been sent off to the nsaFeb 13 04:19
MinceRand a copy kept in RAM in case they come a-knockin'Feb 13 04:19
oiaohmOther option is allowing choice of wrapper.Feb 13 04:19
MinceRallowing choice?Feb 13 04:19
MinceRthat doesn't exist in the lendows worldFeb 13 04:19
MinceROne Man, One Vote.Feb 13 04:19
oiaohmchoice of wrapper exists in openrcFeb 13 04:19
MinceRpoettering is the Man, he has the Vote.Feb 13 04:19
MinceRlendows does not support openrcFeb 13 04:20
MinceROne Microsoft WayFeb 13 04:20
cubexyzI'm sure some distro does support openrcFeb 13 04:20
MinceR"Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."Feb 13 04:20
oiaohmGentoo folks woke up 2005Feb 13 04:20
MinceRi'm sure ratcrap will try to put hard dependencies on cancerd in every piece of software they can reachFeb 13 04:20
oiaohmEveryone else kept head in sand.Feb 13 04:21
oiaohmSo leading to this problem.Feb 13 04:21
MinceRgnome and kde already have hard dependenciesFeb 13 04:21
MinceRall wayland implementations already have hard dependenciesFeb 13 04:21
oiaohmif you mean logind that is not a hard dependencyFeb 13 04:21
MinceRwhat would cancerd fans say if microsoft used these tactics against them?Feb 13 04:21
oiaohmThat was decided before systemd even started.Feb 13 04:21
oiaohmlogind is in consolekit2 by the way.Feb 13 04:22
MinceRyeah, "it's not a dependency on internet explorer, it can be satisfied by anything that provides the same apis as internet explorer"Feb 13 04:22
MinceRit's 2016, am i really expected to be that stupid?Feb 13 04:22
oiaohmlogind api was designed before systemd.Feb 13 04:22
MinceRit still sucksFeb 13 04:22
MinceRit's still a dbus-based atrocityFeb 13 04:23
oiaohmIt might sux but its not something you can blame systemd for.Feb 13 04:23
MinceRi can not blame systemd for what a systemd component does?Feb 13 04:23
oiaohmdbus atrocity predates systemd by a long way.Feb 13 04:23
MinceRwhat am i supposed to blame for it? sysvinit?Feb 13 04:23
oiaohmWe ignored how bad dbus was and hoped it would go away.Feb 13 04:23
MinceRyes, there are other atrocious poetteringware besides systemdFeb 13 04:23
MinceRyes you did.Feb 13 04:24
oiaohmProblem did not pay to ignore it.Feb 13 04:24
MinceRand once they make your software depend on it, you'll be in the front line, fighting on their behalf.Feb 13 04:24
oiaohmJust like ignoring that sysvinit design did not work with the Linux kernel.Feb 13 04:24
MinceRand that's how m$ and ratcrap turned the free software community against itself.Feb 13 04:24
oiaohmEvery one of the times we decided to ignore stuff has created were we are now.Feb 13 04:25
MinceRignoring the sysvinit design?Feb 13 04:25
MinceRi wonder where all these alternative init systems and service managers came fromFeb 13 04:25
oiaohmNone of the alternative init systems got treated as anything more than a toy by main players.Feb 13 04:25
oiaohmRight.Feb 13 04:25
MinceR"main players", also known as red hatFeb 13 04:26
oiaohmThat right every one of them got threated as a toy because sysvinit was perfect.Feb 13 04:26
MinceRi wondered what happened to the "Bazaar"Feb 13 04:26
oiaohmNo main players are places like postgresql orcale apache .....Feb 13 04:26
MinceRbecause this sure as hell isn't that.Feb 13 04:26
MinceRooh, obstacleFeb 13 04:26
oiaohmThe parties making all the services we depend on.Feb 13 04:26
MinceRfaithful follower of redcrapFeb 13 04:26
MinceRi don't depend on fucking obstacle or apacheFeb 13 04:26
oiaohmBazaar without standards and quality controls is a dangerous place.Feb 13 04:27
MinceRhttp://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/app-postgres.htmlFeb 13 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Documentation: 8.2: postgresFeb 13 04:27
MinceR"By default postgres starts in the foreground and prints log messages to the standard error stream."Feb 13 04:27
MinceRdoesn't sound like it would need a lot of supportFeb 13 04:27
MinceRit already does the right thing by defaultFeb 13 04:28
MinceRor is writing "postgres" into a text file somewhere such an insurmountable challenge?Feb 13 04:28
oiaohmLook a little deeper you will find it used PID to tell if processes are still running.Feb 13 04:28
MinceR"Bazaar" with "standards" written by someone who's working out of m$'s book is a dangerous place indeedFeb 13 04:29
MinceRwho is "it"?Feb 13 04:29
oiaohmMinceR: postgres uses PID following the same mistake of sysvinitFeb 13 04:29
oiaohmWe have a messFeb 13 04:30
MinceRwill it cease to use PID when ran under cancerd?Feb 13 04:30
oiaohmWill not matter as much when you can shove it in a PID name space in a cgroup so preventing other processes entering it PID number space.Feb 13 04:30
MinceRso, noFeb 13 04:30
MinceRso, how is this an argument for cancerd?Feb 13 04:31
oiaohmBut that requires init system that support cgroups.Feb 13 04:31
oiaohmSo either it has to be fixed Feb 13 04:31
MinceRand as discussed already, using cgroups for service management doesn't fucking workFeb 13 04:31
MinceRwaitFeb 13 04:31
MinceRthose processes are children of postgres, aren't they?Feb 13 04:31
oiaohmNot all of them.Feb 13 04:32
oiaohmpostgres can start as 3 split partents.Feb 13 04:32
MinceRi don't understand thatFeb 13 04:32
MinceRanyway, if it's so, then postgres needs to be fixedFeb 13 04:32
oiaohm1 running database provide.Feb 13 04:32
oiaohm2 running replicationFeb 13 04:33
oiaohm3 running backup.Feb 13 04:33
MinceRinstead of hijacking the whole OS to allegedly solve a problem and ending up not solving it at allFeb 13 04:33
oiaohmopenrc uses cgroups and would fix this.Feb 13 04:33
MinceRas long as the child process is yours and you haven't wait()ed on it, it doesn't matter if you read its pid back from a fileFeb 13 04:33
oiaohmDon't have to go to systemd to fix this.Feb 13 04:33
MinceRit won't be replaced by another processFeb 13 04:34
MinceRwhat about cgmanager?Feb 13 04:34
oiaohmAs long as you spent the time doing a lot longer configuration.Feb 13 04:34
oiaohmYes cgmanager correctly configured could address it but you are talking large messy configuration.Feb 13 04:35
oiaohmAnd I will be very happy to see cgmanager die with cgroup v2Feb 13 04:36
MinceRyes, you'll be very happy to see cgroup becoming systemd-onlyFeb 13 04:36
MinceRand i'll probably be very happy disabling it in the kernel configuration as it's broken anywayFeb 13 04:36
MinceRand i'll probably be very happy moving to NetBSD or OpenBSD and finally be free (if only for a while) of this idiocyFeb 13 04:37
oiaohmcgroup v2 reduced cgroup to a single tree design.Feb 13 04:38
oiaohminstead of multi tree from hell design.Feb 13 04:38
MinceRi wonder what happened to testing software in a non-critical environment before deploying it in a critical environmentFeb 13 04:38
MinceRprobably the same thing as what happened to thinking first and writing code afterwardsFeb 13 04:39
MinceRi guess i'm just too old for this shit.Feb 13 04:39
oiaohmThat has never been true for the Linux kernel until 2014Feb 13 04:39
MinceRi think there was plenty of software for which it was trueFeb 13 04:39
MinceRincluding some gnu/linux distributionsFeb 13 04:39
oiaohmMinceR: the Linux kernel only gets a in kernel source test kit to be run when the kernel is developed in 2014Feb 13 04:39
MinceRwhich of course shipped linuxFeb 13 04:40
MinceRa "test kit" is not the only way to test softwareFeb 13 04:40
oiaohmIts not the only way but its kinda the min you want to see.Feb 13 04:40
MinceRi doubt it can even replace running code on non-critical systems and seeing how it performsFeb 13 04:41
MinceR(including of course running tests of the service you intend to deploy on it)Feb 13 04:42
oiaohmRunning on non critical systems without a test kit may look perfect because you never tested the functionality that was broken.Feb 13 04:42
oiaohmAnd find out latter it was.Feb 13 04:42
MinceRi'm pretty sure i would notice that my applications didn't save their settings/history on shutdownFeb 13 04:42
oiaohmMaking a test kit to work out all the functionality you need is a good thing.Feb 13 04:42
MinceRi'm pretty sure i don't have to risk lives to test such thingsFeb 13 04:42
MinceRsure, but it's not the only thingFeb 13 04:43
oiaohmI see test kit as bare min.Feb 13 04:43
MinceRand it can't be guaranteed to have 100% coverage, so it won't obsolete other testsFeb 13 04:43
oiaohmIf you don't have a basic test kit you are not even sure basic functionality works.Feb 13 04:43
MinceRit should have been trivial to roll out systemd to a testing release, see how it behaves, then roll it back before making a stable releaseFeb 13 04:44
MinceRthat can be repeated until it works or until you give up on systemd.Feb 13 04:44
oiaohmNot exactly trivial.Feb 13 04:44
MinceRcertainly better than rolling it out on testing, seeing that it sucks but forcing it into "stable" anywayFeb 13 04:44
oiaohmDebian run into problem where some maintain services would not make init files for systemd to let systemd be worked out.Feb 13 04:44
MinceRi wonder why someone wouldn't write unit files for systemdFeb 13 04:45
MinceRthe systemd people are so nice, aren't they?Feb 13 04:45
oiaohmAnd they were not writting tests for systemd either.Feb 13 04:45
MinceRthey totally don't give hundreds of reasons to not want to work with themFeb 13 04:45
oiaohmFor debian to complain about faults.Feb 13 04:45
MinceRthey would surely never say things like "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."Feb 13 04:45
MinceRoh wait.Feb 13 04:45
oiaohmGentoo deleted maintainers accounts who did not support openrc that worked.Feb 13 04:46
MinceRpoettering's cult routinely close bugs that affect many people but the nsa doesn't mind havingFeb 13 04:46
oiaohmNeed to go over those bugs more careful.   Large percentage like programs sending logging data that they should not is a issue under sysvinit windows osx solaris....Feb 13 04:48
MinceRand yet with a sane logging system it's relatively easily worked aroundFeb 13 04:49
oiaohmBasically there are a lot of problems some are init side and there is a hell load service side.Feb 13 04:49
MinceRbasically the architecture of lendows is completely wrongFeb 13 04:49
oiaohmMinceR: systemd you can pass through to send logging to /dev/nullFeb 13 04:49
MinceRand yet it will stick around in RAMFeb 13 04:49
MinceRand it will be leaked to who knows hereFeb 13 04:50
MinceRs/here/w&/Feb 13 04:50
MinceRhas anyone audited systemd-journald?Feb 13 04:50
MinceRwill they audit the next version that's churned out in a few days?Feb 13 04:50
oiaohmMinceR: redirect logging to /dev/null in the container of the service and journald does not see the log at all.Feb 13 04:53
MinceRor just overwrite your lendows install with a free unix and journald won't even be installed, let alone allowed to run!Feb 13 04:54
oiaohmDisable logging collection per service is the same under sysvinit were you have to modify how to start up to do it cleanly.Feb 13 04:55
MinceRexcept under sysvinit, you're allowed to use a logging service of your choiceFeb 13 04:55
MinceRand there are plenty of sane choicesFeb 13 04:55
oiaohmReally it shows how many have been doing it wrong with filters in rsyslogFeb 13 04:55
MinceRunder cancerd, your logs pass through journald, which is untrustworthyFeb 13 04:55
oiaohmAs that is the wrong answer.Feb 13 04:55
MinceRyeah, if they're not doing what poettering is telling them, they must be wrongFeb 13 04:56
oiaohmNo poettering did not give answer to this.Feb 13 04:56
MinceRthey must instead fix every service separately... and if they miss one, that's just too badFeb 13 04:56
oiaohmRecommendation for killing logging is 1982 USA milFeb 13 04:56
MinceRand it's a lucky day for the nsaFeb 13 04:56
oiaohmFor pivacy.Feb 13 04:56
oiaohmBy sending to /dev/nullFeb 13 04:56
oiaohmWhat I said is not a new recommendation.Feb 13 04:57
MinceRyeah, there's no middle roadFeb 13 04:57
MinceReverything that was written on that ticket was a mere illusion.Feb 13 04:57
oiaohmThere is just you missed it.Feb 13 04:57
MinceRuh huhFeb 13 04:57
oiaohmIf I can redirect service logging to /dev/null so prevent journald seeing it why cannot I redirect it anywhere else through anything else.Feb 13 04:58
MinceRwhy should i let people like poettering hijack the OS on my computers at all?Feb 13 04:58
MinceRthey keep giving me new reasons to not want to deal with them in any wayFeb 13 04:59
oiaohmSystemd provides default logging.   Not logging that cannot be overridden.Feb 13 04:59
MinceRjust _default_ logging that cannot be overridden.Feb 13 04:59
MinceRand if you miss one service and forget to redirect it... see above, good day for the nsa.Feb 13 04:59
MinceRor you could skip all that extra work and use an os that was designed by people who knew what they were doing.Feb 13 05:00
oiaohmIf you use any logging the NSA can have methods of getting it.   Feb 13 05:00
cubexyzlog to printer :)Feb 13 05:00
oiaohmSo you want audited code.Feb 13 05:00
MinceRif i ensure that my logs do not have the sensitive info in them, whatever the nsa gets is uselessFeb 13 05:01
MinceRand yes, i want audited codeFeb 13 05:01
MinceRwhich means i don't want something that needlessly consists of tens of megabytes of source codeFeb 13 05:01
MinceRi could use all those man hours and all that money for something valuableFeb 13 05:01
MinceRinstead of having people trying to decipher whatever poettering and his interns vomited onto disk.Feb 13 05:01
MinceRwho knows, if my OS wasn't an entry in the Who Can Make Code More Bloated competition, maybe i could even afford to mathematically prove its correctnessFeb 13 05:02
MinceRbefore the expected lifetime of the universe expires!Feb 13 05:03
cubexyzyou'd like Unix v5, it's totally straightforwardFeb 13 05:03
MinceRi liked gnu/linux before poettering and his pals fucked it upFeb 13 05:04
oiaohmLots of ways gnu/linux has been horiblely screwed up before poettering.Feb 13 05:04
cubexyzok, FC1, slack, AntiX, Q4os, and probably other onesFeb 13 05:04
oiaohmglibc versioning thingFeb 13 05:05
oiaohmcomes to mind.Feb 13 05:05
MinceRthere were screwups in gnu/linux earlier, therefore we must fuck it up completely!Feb 13 05:05
MinceRyeah, totally sound reasoning.Feb 13 05:05
MinceRwhy fix bugs when you can just introduce even more bugs instead?Feb 13 05:05
MinceRit's certainly easierFeb 13 05:05
oiaohmIt called the critical point factor.Feb 13 05:05
MinceRit's called insanityFeb 13 05:06
cubexyzcan firefox do a find like: ^cat ?Feb 13 05:06
oiaohmWhile faults are minor enough humans will ignore them.Feb 13 05:06
MinceRregex find in page? doesn't seem to support thatFeb 13 05:06
oiaohmAt critical point humans start fixing the faults.Feb 13 05:07
cubexyzmaybe there's a pluginFeb 13 05:07
MinceRoiaohm: that's not what's happening hereFeb 13 05:07
oiaohmIts sad we had to get as bad a systemd to trigger critical point.Feb 13 05:07
cubexyzdoh, not available in firefox 16Feb 13 05:07
MinceRhere at the critical point humans started competing on who could introduce more severe design flawsFeb 13 05:07
oiaohmMinceR: it is what is happening here.Feb 13 05:07
MinceRit's sad it had to be an attack on all other unixes as wellFeb 13 05:07
oiaohmIf people were looking for design flaws sysvinit would have been nuked in the first 2 years of Linux and replaced.Feb 13 05:08
MinceRsysvinit was easy to replaceFeb 13 05:08
MinceRcancerd isn't.Feb 13 05:08
MinceRthis is not a coincidence.Feb 13 05:08
oiaohmsysvinit was easy to replace <<<excuse to not bother auditing it and fixing it.Feb 13 05:08
MinceRyes, that must be why s6, runit, sinit, minit, jinit, dmd, etc. don't exist.Feb 13 05:09
MinceRnote that those are also easy to replaceFeb 13 05:09
MinceRagain, not a coincidenceFeb 13 05:09
oiaohmAgain excuse.Feb 13 05:09
cubexyzyes, that's a good pointFeb 13 05:10
cubexyzmodularity is importantFeb 13 05:10
oiaohmWe have many options all flawed in different ways since we can replace them all simply we don't have to fix any of them.Feb 13 05:10
MinceRall these pretty much aim to do one thing and do it right.Feb 13 05:10
MinceRcompare it to cancerd, which tries to do all the things and do them wrong.Feb 13 05:10
oiaohmMinceR: not one you listed is without a documented bug.Feb 13 05:10
MinceRoohFeb 13 05:10
MinceRsoftware that has bugsFeb 13 05:10
MinceRa novel concept!Feb 13 05:10
oiaohmBugs that have stayed in place documented for 10 + years?Feb 13 05:11
MinceRyet they somehow manage to manage processes and even shut downFeb 13 05:11
MinceRsomething, you'll note, cancerd is still incapable of.Feb 13 05:11
oiaohmReality is we no fix has been happening.Feb 13 05:11
MinceRoh, and boot tooFeb 13 05:11
oiaohmWhy systemd thought they could get away with such crap code is because the other init systems were let slide with crap code.Feb 13 05:12
MinceRthey'll all be fixed before cancerd will be fixedFeb 13 05:12
MinceRno, that's not the reasonFeb 13 05:12
oiaohmSystemd issues don't start with just the birth of systemd.Feb 13 05:12
MinceRnone of them are nearly as crap as cancerdFeb 13 05:12
MinceRcancerd will just keep introducing new features per the CADT modelFeb 13 05:12
MinceRmaybe it will eventually be rewrittenFeb 13 05:12
MinceRit will never be fixedFeb 13 05:12
MinceRhttps://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.htmlFeb 13 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | The CADT ModelFeb 13 05:13
MinceRby the way, was the DNS cache in cancerd fixed yet?Feb 13 05:14
oiaohmRefering to them implementing dnssecFeb 13 05:15
MinceRi think it was more about not blindly trusting unauthoritative answersFeb 13 05:15
MinceR(which pretty much all DNS caches get right by now, at least on unix)Feb 13 05:15
MinceRi'm sure there will be some idea of new functionality that could be added to systemd that will be shiny (unlike fixing this vulnerability), and as such will have infinitely higher priorityFeb 13 05:16
oiaohmTurned out glibc default dns resoveler was worst on trusting than systemd one.Feb 13 05:16
oiaohmThat was a imported bug.Feb 13 05:16
MinceRout of how many?Feb 13 05:16
MinceRcohesion is not rocket science, nor is it specific to unix.Feb 13 05:17
oiaohmsystemd resolver over trusted like the glibc resolver but did not have the remote exploit.Feb 13 05:17
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29Feb 13 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cohesion (computer science) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jrpbq ]Feb 13 05:17
MinceRit was part of my software engineering trainingFeb 13 05:17
MinceRwhy does redhat not employ a single person who is aware of this principle?Feb 13 05:18
oiaohmWhen systemd was fixing the resolver they have decided to implement dnssec while they are at it.Feb 13 05:18
MinceRhttp://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/People_d26472_256610.jpgFeb 13 05:18
oiaohmMinceR: most systems were overriding the default glibc resolver so it bug had gone not noticed and it resolver had never been audited.Feb 13 05:19
MinceRi wonder why they were overriding itFeb 13 05:20
MinceRperhaps because it was known to be crap?Feb 13 05:20
oiaohmBecause it did not cacheFeb 13 05:20
oiaohmAll systemd did was implement the glibc resolver with a cache.Feb 13 05:20
MinceRah, so poettering was the only person who discovered the secret of how to add caching on top of the default glibc resolver?Feb 13 05:20
MinceRhe must be some kind of genius.Feb 13 05:21
oiaohmEveryone else used bsd resolver not gcc one.Feb 13 05:21
oiaohmAnd embedded that in there code base.Feb 13 05:21
oiaohmopps not gcc/glibcFeb 13 05:21
cubexyzelinks has regex searchFeb 13 05:21
MinceRbasically the fact that systemd sucks so hard is anyone's fault except systemd's authors'Feb 13 05:22
MinceRsomehowFeb 13 05:22
oiaohmyou did not ask me who wrote the glibc resolver.Feb 13 05:22
MinceRreality turns itself out of its own asshole to preserve the glory of systemd!Feb 13 05:22
oiaohmRedhat developer Feb 13 05:22
MinceRdoesn't matter at this pointFeb 13 05:22
oiaohmWho happens to be working on systemd.Feb 13 05:22
oiaohmLets say how to lack auditing.Feb 13 05:22
MinceRby writing megabytes of uncommented spaghetti code?Feb 13 05:23
MinceRseems to be working fine for ratcrapFeb 13 05:23
oiaohmTo be truthful the resolver in systemd is cleaner than the one in glibc.Feb 13 05:23
oiaohmIt was only written in 1994 and patched for ipv6 in 2004-2005 in glibc then not touched again.Feb 13 05:24
MinceRinexplicably, i fail to be impressedFeb 13 05:24
oiaohmThere are a lot of places in Linux that need a good audit.Feb 13 05:24
oiaohmThe point of view it works it don't need auditing is not really good.Feb 13 05:25
MinceRseems to me there are places where taking a glance at the architecture would be sufficientFeb 13 05:25
oiaohmSome places the fact that specs are missing should be enough to raise alarm.Feb 13 05:26
oiaohmHey we have a library here half the functions don't have any documentationFeb 13 05:26
oiaohmAnd that is glibcFeb 13 05:26
MinceRi've seen that kind of codeFeb 13 05:26
MinceRin systemdFeb 13 05:26
MinceRexcept there it wasn't just half the functionsFeb 13 05:27
MinceRit was pretty much all of themFeb 13 05:27
oiaohmThe very core library most linux dependon.Feb 13 05:27
MinceRno, i'm pretty sure the kernel does not depend on libc :>Feb 13 05:27
oiaohmIt depends on klibc that is in some ways worse documented.Feb 13 05:27
MinceRso, another can of wormsFeb 13 05:27
oiaohmThis is why I say systemd was required.Feb 13 05:28
oiaohmThere are huge numbers of cans worms that require exterminating.Feb 13 05:28
MinceRto add some more design flaws and bugs?Feb 13 05:28
MinceRi don't think extermination works that way.Feb 13 05:29
oiaohmWe had to get bad enough that people start thinking that code auditing is required feature of development.Feb 13 05:29
MinceRespecially then the demonstrative bundle of bugs that was dumped on top is forced on everyone and is worshiped like a god.Feb 13 05:29
MinceRactually, a design review would have caught thisFeb 13 05:29
MinceRand so would have a code reviewFeb 13 05:29
cubexyzwhat about openbsd and older Unix? Feb 13 05:30
MinceRafaik openbsd is regularly subject to auditingFeb 13 05:30
oiaohmopenbsd has mandated by process code reviews and documentation.Feb 13 05:30
oiaohmSomething Linux desperately needs.Feb 13 05:30
MinceRso does GNUFeb 13 05:30
cubexyzis klibc a Linux thing?Feb 13 05:31
cubexyzit's not in old Unix, I just checkedFeb 13 05:31
MinceRcancerd doesn't, as the result is easy to know already: "this whole thing goes into the dumpster, and these people may take another shot at learning software engineering, or look for a career choice they can fail less hard at"Feb 13 05:31
MinceRif i did shit like that, i would not have any degrees.Feb 13 05:32
oiaohmcubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klibc  yep. Linux thing.Feb 13 05:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | klibc - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 13 05:32
oiaohmcubexyz: most klibc applications are stopped at end of init process.Feb 13 05:33
oiaohmcubexyz: opps initrd process.Feb 13 05:33
oiaohmI hope systemd works to wake up code auditing and other things.   Then hell will have been worth it.   At least it got the kernel to have a in kernel tree testsuite so one someone complains X feature no longer works they know its not them and its the other idiot at fault.Feb 13 05:35
oiaohmYes systemd is party that has caused the Linux kernel to grow a testsuite.Feb 13 05:36
MinceRwas practically killing off at least 9 major distros and hurd worth it?Feb 13 05:36
oiaohmSo if it was replaced now it would leave being a legacy of some good.Feb 13 05:36
oiaohmWhat majors.Feb 13 05:37
MinceRfedora, mageia, opensuse, arch, coreos, rhel, sles, ubuntu, debianFeb 13 05:37
oiaohmIt has not killed them.Feb 13 05:38
oiaohmUpset users yes.Feb 13 05:38
MinceRgranted, in a way they've proven their own incompetence, but i suspect this might be simply a case of entryism in some cases (like debian)Feb 13 05:38
oiaohmbut not killed them.Feb 13 05:38
MinceRwhat is the purpose of an allegedly stable distribution?Feb 13 05:39
oiaohmPoor grade auditing how could you claim stable in the first place.Feb 13 05:39
MinceRirrelevantFeb 13 05:39
oiaohmIts 100 percent relevant.Feb 13 05:39
oiaohmsystemd is no more buggy that prior stuff debian had accepted.Feb 13 05:40
MinceRthey've all shipped known bad design and known bad code despite plenty of warnings in one (and in some cases several) releases that were alleged by them to be "stable"Feb 13 05:40
MinceRas a sysadmin, would i be doing my job by relying on them for stable OSes in the future?Feb 13 05:40
oiaohmsysvinit had plenty of warning it had issues and they shipped that anyhow.Feb 13 05:40
MinceRof course not!Feb 13 05:40
MinceRso what purpose do these distros serve now?Feb 13 05:40
oiaohmLot of large system admins like systemd more than sysvinit because systemd is being more truthful.Feb 13 05:41
MinceRtruthful about what?Feb 13 05:42
oiaohmNot being a large system admin you missed the stuff they were complaining about with sysvinit.Feb 13 05:42
MinceRwhen did they admit they were forcing shit on users?Feb 13 05:42
oiaohmLike reporting services as running when they were dead and the like.Feb 13 05:42
MinceRhow do i miss data loss?Feb 13 05:42
MinceRhow do i miss my laptop failing to boot at all?Feb 13 05:42
oiaohmServers rarely reboot.Feb 13 05:42
MinceRservers are not targeted by systemdFeb 13 05:42
oiaohmServers are targeted by systemdFeb 13 05:42
MinceRshow me one server that needs multiseat.Feb 13 05:43
MinceRshow me one server that doesn't need log rotation.Feb 13 05:43
MinceRshow me one server that doesn't need to be stable or secure.Feb 13 05:43
oiaohmmultiseat gpu splitting are releated.   Required when dealing with evil nvidia cards that required a X11 server per processing application on server.Feb 13 05:43
MinceRirrelevantFeb 13 05:44
oiaohmSorry noFeb 13 05:44
oiaohmYou asked me to show you one server that needs multiseat they exist.Feb 13 05:44
oiaohmservers using gpu acceleration made by nvidia.Feb 13 05:44
MinceRsorry, who gets to use the input devices on a headless server doing number crunching is irrelevantFeb 13 05:44
oiaohmNvidia graphics driver plays up if it cannot find a fake input device.Feb 13 05:45
MinceRfact is, those nine allegedly major distros have utterly failed at the job of a distroFeb 13 05:45
oiaohmNvidia driver optimised for desktop.Feb 13 05:45
oiaohmbeing used in server.Feb 13 05:45
oiaohmSo creating ouch.Feb 13 05:45
MinceRwithout messing by ratcrap they might have avoided being degraded to this pointFeb 13 05:45
MinceRlast time i checked, the nvidia drivers were optimized for opengl graphics workstation usageFeb 13 05:46
oiaohmExaclty must have X11 server and input devices.Feb 13 05:46
MinceRespecially without gnome and kde pushing ratcrap's agendaFeb 13 05:46
oiaohmOnly this year has Nvidia at long last released a headless driverFeb 13 05:46
oiaohmSo until this year multi seat was required.Feb 13 05:47
MinceRi'm not buying itFeb 13 05:47
oiaohmIn sections of the server world.Feb 13 05:47
oiaohmThe abblity to pass from journald striaght out to rsyslog for off server logging is a server world feature.Feb 13 05:47
MinceRif your number-crunching server has issues of the wrong x server getting input from an input device plugged into the server, you're doing something wrong.Feb 13 05:47
MinceRno, the ability to pass logs from journald is a pathetic attempt to work around an enormous design flaw that hurts servers more than desktops.Feb 13 05:48
oiaohmMinceR: Look closer at systemd multi seat it allows creating seats with fake input devices not connected to screen.Feb 13 05:48
MinceRhttps://geekwhisperin.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bug-vs-feature.jpgFeb 13 05:48
MinceRoiaohm: i think x lets you start without input devicesFeb 13 05:49
MinceRi remember seeing a setting for thatFeb 13 05:49
oiaohmLot of bugs was caused by systemd multi seat behaving on desktop like it was on servers.Feb 13 05:49
oiaohmMinceR: Nvidia driver attempts to access input device no input device die.Feb 13 05:49
oiaohmMinceR: why it attempts to access input device is to guess where mouse pointer is.Feb 13 05:50
oiaohmMinceR: or going to be ahead of time.Feb 13 05:50
MinceRso basically multiseat support is important in 2015 and 2016 because nvidia can't write driversFeb 13 05:50
MinceRthat's brilliantFeb 13 05:50
MinceRtypical systemd approach to "problem solving"Feb 13 05:50
oiaohmYes that is the truth.Feb 13 05:50
MinceRwhat are these people smoking?Feb 13 05:51
oiaohmNvidia only had this bug since 2000 so they never considered Nvidia would fix it.Feb 13 05:51
oiaohmsystemd development is a lot more server driven than it appears.Feb 13 05:52
oiaohmAnd since it been tested for server deployment more than desktop it turned nasty on desktop.Feb 13 05:53
MinceRyeah, servers desperately need the extra downtime provided by systemdFeb 13 05:53
MinceRand all that pointless desktop ricingFeb 13 05:54
oiaohmSad but systemd systems are showing lower down time on crashed services than sysvinit equals.Feb 13 05:54
oiaohmdue to true state reporting.Feb 13 05:54
MinceR[citation needed]Feb 13 05:54
oiaohmWas at the systemd conference in those videos.Feb 13 05:55
MinceRooh, they said at the systemd conference, it's got to be true!Feb 13 05:55
oiaohmNow of course they did not bench against openrcFeb 13 05:55
MinceRs/at/it &/Feb 13 05:55
MinceRthey did not bench jack shitFeb 13 05:55
MinceRthey said what their fellow cultists wanted to hearFeb 13 05:56
oiaohmNo these were operational records.Feb 13 05:56
MinceRkept by what, journald?Feb 13 05:56
oiaohmnormal service uptime monitoring suites.Feb 13 05:57
oiaohmSo computer outside computer monitoring that services are up and working correctly.Feb 13 05:57
oiaohmPersonally I beleive openrc vs systemd openrc would have won.Feb 13 05:57
MinceRpersonally i believe that no amount of equivocation and lying will make systemd workFeb 13 05:58
oiaohmIts the loop of PID around leading to sysvinit missing when a service had died.Feb 13 05:58
MinceRjust as it didn't make winblows and OSuX stop sucking eitherFeb 13 05:58
MinceRthe fact is, the only way software can be improved is by working on itFeb 13 05:58
MinceRspreading lies and making up shit won't do it.Feb 13 05:58
oiaohmNot everything systemd said was lies.Feb 13 05:59
oiaohmYes they were correct sysvinit was broken.Feb 13 06:00
MinceRthey must have made a mistakeFeb 13 06:00
MinceRi'm sure it wasn't intentionalFeb 13 06:00
oiaohmRedhat tried upstart before coding systemd to attempt to get away from broken sysvinit  Then ubuntu CLA would not let them submit patches.Feb 13 06:01
MinceRah yes, upstart, the init system that looks good only in comparison to systemdFeb 13 06:01
MinceRmust have been a great relief to upstart "developers"Feb 13 06:01
MinceR"finally somebody came up with something that sucks even harder than our work!"Feb 13 06:02
oiaohmupstart using ptrace makes systemd in lots of use cases look good.Feb 13 06:02
MinceRand yet upstart somehow manages to stick to its own jobFeb 13 06:02
MinceRand somehow manages to not cargo-cult cgroupsFeb 13 06:02
oiaohmptrace can trace of processes can make 60% of your cpu disappear into ptrace on particular workloads.Feb 13 06:02
MinceRgood thing cancerd doesn't waste cpu, right?Feb 13 06:03
oiaohmNot at that level.Feb 13 06:03
MinceRit would not be the #1 cpu user at all timesFeb 13 06:03
oiaohmNot on my system.Feb 13 06:03
MinceRlike this: https://blind.guru/daemon-cpu.htmlFeb 13 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blind.guru | I am sorry, but this looks insaneFeb 13 06:03
MinceRoh, rightFeb 13 06:03
MinceRit's not on your system so it must be a lieFeb 13 06:03
MinceRnotice how the top 3 spots are held by poetteringwareFeb 13 06:04
MinceRhm, apparently cancerd itself was #3Feb 13 06:04
MinceRstill ahead of any applicationsFeb 13 06:04
oiaohmMinceR: my top two are normally X11 and iceweaselFeb 13 06:08
MinceRmaybe in a few releases systemd will be bloated enough so you might enjoy it using more cpu than applications too!Feb 13 06:09
oiaohmapache is ahead of dbus on this system most of the time.Feb 13 06:09
MinceRsystemd. Doesn't use as much cpu time as iceweasel yet!(tm)Feb 13 06:10
oiaohmFew recent updates of dbus has seen it drop.Feb 13 06:10
oiaohmThat why I said on this system.Feb 13 06:10
MinceRi like my service managers leave some time for the actual services to run, but i guess that's just meFeb 13 06:10
oiaohmsystemd is running under 0.01Feb 13 06:11
oiaohmpercent of cpu time adveraged.Feb 13 06:11
MinceRwhat about the TIME column?Feb 13 06:11
oiaohmand that is mostly normal.Feb 13 06:11
MinceRcpu time used since process start summed upFeb 13 06:11
oiaohmSitting about the same level as network manager.Feb 13 06:13
oiaohmStill bugger all percentage.Feb 13 06:13
MinceRif upstart had a scope similar to that of systemd, it would have been much more difficult to replace upstart with systemdFeb 13 06:13
MinceRmaybe then we'd hear the praises of upstart moreFeb 13 06:14
oiaohmMost likely same list of complaints as well.Feb 13 06:14
MinceRmoral of the story: the more atrocious your software is, the more it will be loved by the masses.Feb 13 06:14
oiaohmI will give you a few versions back systemd was eating a lot more cpu time.Feb 13 06:14
oiaohmbiggest annoynace is how much ram it still eating.Feb 13 06:15
oiaohmLot of that is auto translation of old sysvinit files.Feb 13 06:15
oiaohmMinceR: also atrocious software can in fact improve to everyone shock horror at times.Feb 13 06:17
MinceRthey had plenty of time to improve their atrocious software.Feb 13 06:17
MinceRin fact, a strong contender for Shittiest Distro Of All Time, fedora, has released 9 allegedly "stable" releases that force useds to endure systemd on their computers.Feb 13 06:18
MinceRmaybe fedora "developers" need to be informed that "stable" does not mean what they think it meansFeb 13 06:18
oiaohmIf you read fedora release requirements no release is stable.Feb 13 06:18
MinceRor if i look at the process listFeb 13 06:19
MinceRor if i look at the previously linked table on wikipediaFeb 13 06:19
oiaohmSystemd presense does not have to equal unstable.Feb 13 06:19
MinceRwell, in the hypothetical universe where systemd is not a horribly "designed", horribly implemented atrocity, it might notFeb 13 06:20
MinceRin the universe we live in, it unfortunately doesFeb 13 06:20
oiaohmDepends what features of systemd you are using.Feb 13 06:20
MinceRis there a feature that gives me back control of my own machine?Feb 13 06:20
oiaohmIf you hit any of it horible defects.Feb 13 06:20
MinceRit's a huge horrible defect by itselfFeb 13 06:20
oiaohmHave you read the docker/vm usage policy ideas.Feb 13 06:21
MinceRwhy would i?Feb 13 06:21
MinceRi don't use dockerFeb 13 06:21
MinceRnor do i see any reason toFeb 13 06:21
oiaohmCreate, deploy. destroy.Feb 13 06:21
MinceRespecially to restrict my services to 1 process just because docker is retardedFeb 13 06:22
oiaohmThat is docker container/vm life cycle.Feb 13 06:22
MinceRno thanks.Feb 13 06:22
oiaohmRunning a  Create deploy destroy cycle you don't hit most of systemd faults.Feb 13 06:22
MinceRi do not share their beliefs that they have a virtualization that has no bugs.Feb 13 06:22
MinceRyay.Feb 13 06:22
oiaohmso big guys with huge virtual machine usage have not suffered from systemd.Feb 13 06:23
MinceRi prefer to not hit most of systemd faults by not running systemdFeb 13 06:23
MinceRit's still less restrictiveFeb 13 06:23
oiaohmAnd they gained correct reporting when services crashed.Feb 13 06:23
MinceRthe nsa can get their zombies elsewhereFeb 13 06:23
oiaohmSo they are happy.Feb 13 06:23
MinceRmy services don't tend to crashFeb 13 06:24
oiaohmSo there is at least 1 camp happy with systemd.Feb 13 06:24
MinceRyeah, the nsaFeb 13 06:24
oiaohmOk make that 2Feb 13 06:24
MinceRah, yes, the gchq tooFeb 13 06:24
oiaohm3Feb 13 06:24
oiaohmstarting to see something yet.Feb 13 06:24
MinceRyeahFeb 13 06:25
oiaohmBig high end is happy.Feb 13 06:25
oiaohmSmall end highly unhappy.Feb 13 06:25
MinceRthere are plenty of evil organizations that want my systems to be full of holesFeb 13 06:25
oiaohmBig end pay support contract to redhat and distrobutions.Feb 13 06:25
MinceRunfortunately, _i_ don't want my systems to be full of holesFeb 13 06:25
MinceRso it will take a bit more forcing on their part to turn my systems into cancerd zombies.Feb 13 06:25
oiaohmSo what big end wants got ahead of what you want.Feb 13 06:26
MinceRyeah, i could tellFeb 13 06:26
MinceRfrom all the WONTFIXsFeb 13 06:26
MinceRand the "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."sFeb 13 06:26
MinceRand from the way they subverted debian to get their wayFeb 13 06:27
MinceRbut they can still go and fuck themselves.Feb 13 06:27
oiaohmDebian had been looking to replace sysvinit since 2002Feb 13 06:27
MinceRwith what?Feb 13 06:27
oiaohmThat was the problem.Feb 13 06:27
MinceRthat still is the problemFeb 13 06:27
MinceRthat obsession was their downfallFeb 13 06:28
oiaohmEvery time the debate came up nothing offered even a single major bug fix.Feb 13 06:28
oiaohmuntil systemdFeb 13 06:28
MinceRthat's why debian is not universal, not free and that's why its latest "stable" release is not stableFeb 13 06:28
oiaohmSo systemd won by fixing I think 4 things.Feb 13 06:28
oiaohmOk it broken 40 more.Feb 13 06:28
MinceRah, so sysvinit had to go because it was too goodFeb 13 06:28
MinceRgot it.Feb 13 06:28
oiaohmNo sysvinit had to go because it was broken.Feb 13 06:28
MinceRdebilian is the pessimized distroFeb 13 06:28
MinceRyeah, it had to be replaced by something that's a lot more broken because it was brokenFeb 13 06:29
oiaohmConditions sysvinit won under were writtne in 2003Feb 13 06:29
MinceRlogic, what's that?Feb 13 06:29
oiaohmNo one thought it would take so long to find a init system or that a init system with those features would be so bad.Feb 13 06:29
MinceRand that's also why debian gnu/kfreebsd and debian gnu/hurd had to dieFeb 13 06:29
MinceRsystemd is not an "init system"Feb 13 06:30
MinceRit's an operating system without a good service managerFeb 13 06:30
MinceR"init system"s don't take over logging, or dns caching, or web services, or clock synchronization, etc.Feb 13 06:30
oiaohmgnu/hurd was on the chopping block since 2008 due to lack of maintaince.  so you can drop that one.Feb 13 06:30
MinceRthey didFeb 13 06:31
oiaohmIt was lucky that gnu/hurd option lasted as long as it did.Feb 13 06:31
MinceRthough it may yet come backFeb 13 06:31
MinceRthe GWF will finally fuck up hurd's design so they can worship systemd all the betterFeb 13 06:31
oiaohmgnu/hurd from debian has been killed off 6 times.Feb 13 06:31
MinceRfinally gnu/hurd can have the huge single point of failure they always wanted!Feb 13 06:31
oiaohmkfreebsd existence in debian always had a percentage of controversy.    BSD rc system was included in kfreebsd yet sysvinit was being kept on being used on it.Feb 13 06:33
MinceRyeah, spare me of all the lame excuses, i've read them all.Feb 13 06:33
MinceRthey first decided that the cancerd cult will have their way no matter what, and then they decided "why" they would.Feb 13 06:34
MinceRlots of liars and no engineers.Feb 13 06:34
oiaohmMinceR: and there is something else bad here.   https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/Feb 13 06:35
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oiaohmRight due to glibc not being kfreebsd properly compatible it impossible to build debian kfreebsd without using debian Linux as well.Feb 13 06:36
oiaohmMinceR: and that is the case before systemd.Feb 13 06:36
oiaohmLike neither of those ports was in a particularly good state.Feb 13 06:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Clock v4.3 Update For Android BringsFeb 13 08:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Resizable Widgets And More: What To ExpectFeb 13 08:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vOCYN0MxCW (www.techtimes.com)Feb 13 08:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Google Clock v4.3 Update For Android Brings Resizable Widgets And More: What To Expect : PERSONAL TECH : Tech TimesFeb 13 08:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Android tools that can help your personalFeb 13 08:48
TweetTuxMachines                 security  https://t.co/xMNuKQfCPOFeb 13 08:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | 7 Android tools that can help your personal security | ComputerworldFeb 13 08:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenPHT 1.5.1 for Debian/sidFeb 13 08:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JaoewJaJEo (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 08:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenPHT 1.5.1 for Debian/sid | Tux MachinesFeb 13 08:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3Feb 13 08:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Integration for Linux, Sort OfFeb 13 08:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kkeB1kWu6l (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 08:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3 Integration for Linux, Sort Of | Tux MachinesFeb 13 08:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny Core Linux 7.0 Up to Release CandidateFeb 13 10:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase, Adds Linux Kernel 4.2.9Feb 13 10:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ugZbt8jQaT (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 10:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny Core Linux 7.0 Up to Release Candidate Phase, Adds Linux Kernel 4.2.9 | Tux MachinesFeb 13 10:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian 6.0 Long Term Support reachingFeb 13 10:03
TweetTuxMachines                 end-of-life https://t.co/BdCsejWs5wFeb 13 10:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 10:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 6.0 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life | Tux MachinesFeb 13 10:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two WeeksFeb 13 10:03
TweetTuxMachines                 to Patch the Incoming Calls IssueFeb 13 10:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LXuHauYKFZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 10:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two Weeks to Patch the Incoming Calls Issue | Tux MachinesFeb 13 10:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly IntegrateFeb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 the Unity Launcher with NautilusFeb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0wFrIGSRtQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 10:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the Unity Launcher with Nautilus | Tux MachinesFeb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Creator of Android wants to give you a freeFeb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 dashcam https://t.co/1rUts6Bt7G (www.geek.com)Feb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil4oFeb 13 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com | Creator of Android wants to give you a free dashcam | News | Geek.comFeb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chrome For #Android Physical Web Support Feb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Cq4dKeT60D (www.techtimes.com)Feb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VyjXocWWZk (www.androidpolice.com)Feb 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil4pFeb 13 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Chrome For Android Finally Getting Physical Web Support: Here's The Deal : PERSONAL TECH : Tech TimesFeb 13 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Physical Web Support Comes To Chrome 49 Beta For AndroidFeb 13 10:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/698456999126769664Feb 13 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: Lol https://t.co/qdLs5MfjSsFeb 13 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Pwn2Own gets associated with #TrendMicro https://t.co/QEVqSpk35L bad association https://t.co/snvirtm6fgFeb 13 10:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A simple free Android app that will make yourFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 phone much faster https://t.co/O3E0SEhNf5Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (bgr.com)Feb 13 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Speed Up Android: Free app speeds up Android phones | BGRFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Drives FPGAs, ARM ServersFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0i4mHaPAZk (www.eetimes.com)Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6cFeb 13 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eetimes.com | Red Hat Drives FPGAs, ARM Servers | EE TimesFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A new Android app could detect earthquakesFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Ph8XZ2hqiM (www.thestar.com) meh.Feb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Equipment/instruments (specialised) so.Feb 13 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | A new Android app could detect earthquakes | Toronto StarFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6dFeb 13 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gaming on Linux, Steam machines set to soarFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 with DirectX competitor #VulkanFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/y1mirIDRcu (www.pcworld.com)Feb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 #games #openglFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6hFeb 13 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Gaming on Linux, Steam machines set to soar with DirectX competitor Vulkan | PCWorldFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Video: Android 6.0.1 Android Wear Gestures andFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Features Tour! https://t.co/uIl8TLnro6Feb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.droid-life.com) #android #linuxFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6iFeb 13 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.droid-life.com | Video: Android 6.0.1 Android Wear Gestures and Features Tour! | Droid LifeFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google gives My Maps for Android a much-neededFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 revamp https://t.co/7tsxf0yTLBFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.engadget.com) #android #linuxFeb 13 10:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oil6kFeb 13 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Google gives My Maps for Android a much-needed revampFeb 13 10:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698401699711598592   https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698258263389896704Feb 13 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike @github how much is it?Feb 13 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @blue_spike @github BTW where is your Github repo?Feb 13 11:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DrRimmer/status/698398604243783682Feb 13 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrRimmer: #ISDS is a threat to sovereignty and the rule of law @KennedyGraham on the Trans-Pacific Partnership #TPP #TPPA https://t.co/8kcLr92iPNFeb 13 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.stuff.co.nz | A TPP protester's open letter to Steven Joyce | Stuff.co.nzFeb 13 11:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/GVvUWlx6RhFeb 13 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 11:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 13 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/Kusidg08YeFeb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 11:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilb2Feb 13 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 13 11:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NafeezAhmed/status/698470110571397120Feb 13 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NafeezAhmed: Wow https://t.co/bw0aQpmERBFeb 13 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another reason to boycott #elsevier (don't read, don't review, don't submit) https://t.co/CpYUn4ROQT cc @glynmoodyFeb 13 11:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EurogroupIdeas/status/698478536210907136Feb 13 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EurogroupIdeas: We strongly exhort Italy to privatise its gesture. /cc @schestowitz #eurogroupFeb 13 12:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sparklefingered/status/698481298592108544Feb 13 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sparklefingered: @schestowitz @All4Privacy do you know that block chain ledger system? What if Wikipedia was written this way to prevent revisionism/truth.Feb 13 12:31
schestowitzthat too is a problemFeb 13 12:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rehabmassoud/status/698483934229827584Feb 13 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rehabmassoud: I'd always support Robin Hoods! sci-hub https://t.co/BanHHNzPAtFeb 13 12:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/698245319843258370Feb 13 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: This can't be real. https://t.co/Tpkrl72Y4gFeb 13 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Jeopardy: Hey @Snowden, #YoureonJ today. https://t.co/vFgSFToHIbFeb 13 12:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/698295402232225792Feb 13 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @iainross101 There is a link to the story in that tweet.Feb 13 12:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sparklefingered/status/698493233492578305Feb 13 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sparklefingered: @schestowitz @All4Privacy 🙄👍 there is a whole committee dedicated to making safe for work porn 👌Feb 13 13:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sparklefingered/status/698493534853267456Feb 13 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sparklefingered: @schestowitz 🙃 i'm not at all political, but I'm following you because you say interesting things; however; only if you have cake 🍰Feb 13 13:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7036180Feb 13 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't upload photos eating an ice cream to FB http://metro.co.uk/2016/02/12/apparently-this-picture-is-too-suggestive-for-facebook-5679132/ http://www.indiatimes.com/news/weird/facebook-thought-this-image-of-a-woman-eating-ice-cream-was-so-vulgar-it-deleted-it-250652.html http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/social/Facebook-doesnt-want-you-to-see-this-picture/articleshow/50957997.cms http://observer.com/2016/Feb 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> metro.co.uk | Evelyne Axell’s 'Ice Cream' picture is 'too suggestive' for Facebook | Metro News [ http://ur1.ca/oilmn ]Feb 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.indiatimes.com | Facebook Thought This Image Of A Woman Eating Ice Cream Was So Vulgar, It Deleted It! [ http://ur1.ca/oilmo ]Feb 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Facebook doesn't want you to see this picture - Times of India [ http://ur1.ca/oilmp ]Feb 13 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> observer.com | Philadelphia Museum of Art Pushes Back Against Yet More Facebook Censorship | | Observer [ http://ur1.ca/oilmq ]Feb 13 13:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/Kusidg08YeFeb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilo8Feb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian 6.0 Long Term Support reachingFeb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 end-of-life https://t.co/5rngXa6hTbFeb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.debian.org) https://t.co/RVgq7gJraHFeb 13 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160212 )Feb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/kIJ2Gfu0jcFeb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.neowin.net)Feb 13 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 LTS "Squeeze" to Reach End-of-Life on February 29, 2016Feb 13 13:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilo9Feb 13 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Debian 6 LTS reaches end-of-life on February 29 - it's time to upgradeFeb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux for your Loved OnesFeb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0eVTHbnhdm (freedompenguin.com)Feb 13 13:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Linux for your Loved Ones - Freedom PenguinFeb 13 13:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston,Feb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME, KDE, EnlightenmentFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NNZXuukVkq (tlhp.cf)Feb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilomFeb 13 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tlhp.cf | The Review of Wayland Progress In 2016: Weston, GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment – The Linux Homefront ProjectFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Remembering Thomas Wood https://t.co/3tppDNHWjtFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gnome.org) "a long time contributor to theFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME Art project" just diedFeb 13 13:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilonFeb 13 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnome.org | Remembering Thomas Wood – GNOMEFeb 13 13:56
*TweetTuxMachines @JohnitoMusic favourited 'Linux for your Loved Ones https://t.co/0eVTHbnhdm'Feb 13 13:57
*TweetTuxMachines @JohnitoMusic retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux for your Loved Ones https://t.co/0eVTHbnhdm'Feb 13 13:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze SoonFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/enLe1GInNO (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpdFeb 13 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze SoonFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives in All Supported UbuntuFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 OSes https://t.co/xNf8N1dg3fFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpeFeb 13 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives in All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Getting to Know Linux File PermissionsFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KiUCoAqJAW (www.linux.com)Feb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpfFeb 13 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Getting to Know Linux File Permissions | Linux.comFeb 13 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Benchmarks Of The ODROID-C2 64-Bit ARMFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Development Board https://t.co/7KmwbyTM21Feb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpyFeb 13 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Benchmarks Of The ODROID-C2 64-Bit ARM Development Board - PhoronixFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 toFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Showcase Its Ubuntu ConvergenceFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/f1uBkq6qvl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilpzFeb 13 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 to Showcase Its Ubuntu ConvergenceFeb 13 14:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: More adventures with Manjaro-ARM forFeb 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 the Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/zJ3Tei6vCOFeb 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Feb 13 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On: More adventures with Manjaro-ARM for the Raspberry Pi 2 | ZDNetFeb 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilq0Feb 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A man with his Fingers in many millions of piesFeb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vLbmMqWaB0 (www.linuxvoice.com)Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilquFeb 13 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/a-man-with-his-fingers-in-many-millions-of-pies/ )Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenPHT 1.5.1 for Debian/sidFeb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YXsd99mVBo (www.preining.info)Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilqvFeb 13 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | OpenPHT 1.5.1 for Debian/sid |Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla #Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Integration for Linux, Sort OfFeb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Zyc4qR0NJa (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilqwFeb 13 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mozilla Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3 Integration for Linux, Sort OfFeb 13 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny Core Linux 7.0 Up to Release CandidateFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Phase, Adds Linux Kernel 4.2.9Feb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xBUzdHIsB4 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilruFeb 13 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tiny Core Linux 7.0 Up to Release Candidate Phase, Adds Linux Kernel 4.2.9Feb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two WeeksFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 to Patch the Incoming Calls IssueFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LrgqLJRys7 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilrwFeb 13 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two Weeks to Patch the Incoming Calls IssueFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly IntegrateFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 the Unity Launcher with NautilusFeb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jPztlvwRpX (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilryFeb 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the Unity Launcher with NautilusFeb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Might Drop Ubuntu DiscourseFeb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OxXp74EMqu (news.softpedia.com)Feb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oilrzFeb 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Might Drop Ubuntu DiscourseFeb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Thunderbird 45.0 to Finally Bring GTK3 Integration...'Feb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9.1 Hotfix Lands in Two Weeks...'Feb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the...'Feb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Transform Your Android Smartphone Into A LinuxFeb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop PC Using MaruOS https://t.co/fgdAdElQAjFeb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.geeky-gadgets.com)Feb 13 14:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oils1Feb 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Transform Your Android Smartphone Into A Linux Desktop PC Using MaruOS - Geeky GadgetsFeb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze Soon https://t.co/enLe1GInNO'Feb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Firefox 44.0.2 Arrives in All Supported Ubuntu OSes...'Feb 13 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Will Be Present at MWC 2016 to...'Feb 13 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.20 to Enter Feature Freeze SoonFeb 13 14:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Neon and Plasma RelationshipFeb 13 14:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Influence of Debian in Linux Open SourceFeb 13 15:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698517411885150209   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698518499979821056  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698519050033434624Feb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Neon and #Plasma Relationship https://t.co/VijGvY2PeA #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Influence of Debian in Linux Open Source Community https://t.co/I8VWO9NJOf #debian #gnu #linux #murdockFeb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Our Response To Yet Another Bogus Legal Threat From Australia: Go Learn Some Law https://t.co/xK2kNwNQ7B #techdirt gets abusedFeb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Our Response To Yet Another Bogus Legal Threat From Australia: Go Learn Some Law | TechdirtFeb 13 15:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/698519357119406080Feb 13 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #UK Court Tells Online Mapping Company It's Not Illegal For Google To Also Offer Online Maps https://t.co/CU7hj5ZIf0 #streetmap desperateFeb 13 15:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Make your own Firefox OS TVFeb 13 15:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | Make your own Firefox OS TV - LiliputingFeb 13 15:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rethinkresearch.biz | Mozilla refocuses Firefox OS on connected devices - RethinkFeb 13 15:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 things every Linux beginner should knowFeb 13 15:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | 4 things every Linux beginner should knowFeb 13 15:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Faking Open, Debian Influence, Da LinuxFeb 13 15:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Faking Open, Debian Influence, Da Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fysbis: The Linux Backdoor Used by RussianFeb 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Hackers https://t.co/aIAjp1QmzwFeb 13 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Influence of Debian in Linux Open SourceFeb 13 15:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ChristoHaunted/status/698528387049066496Feb 13 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChristoHaunted: @schestowitz thing is censorship will always fail in the long run, #google #twitter and #facebook will wake up and stop it or be replaceFeb 13 15:27
MinceRor the establishment will block replacementsFeb 13 15:32
MinceRs/block/ban/Feb 13 15:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ChristoHaunted/status/698529399667298304Feb 13 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChristoHaunted: @schestowitz RTBF already fail and even if they expand it people will always find away around it, like this https://t.co/AhXS2Ivp2HFeb 13 15:35
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schestowitzDDG is a scam, not privacy-securing at allFeb 13 15:35
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/microsoft-continues-to-use-software-patents-to-extortblackmail-even-more-companies-that-use-linux-forcingcoercing-them-into-preinstalling-microsoft-160210175652.html#talkback_area\Feb 13 15:39
schestowitz"Unless that MS crap is no uninstallable without rooting, I am OK."Feb 13 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtoday.com | Linux Today - Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/oim0d ]Feb 13 15:39
schestowitz"I really don't know why someone doesn't start a group, including the FSF and all the big companies that Microsoft are currently extorting, to stand up to Microsoft over these so-called patent breaches that only Microsoft claims are made by Linux, just to finally force Microsoft to put up or shut up."Feb 13 15:39
schestowitz"in America, they call those two bedfellows Freedom and Crony Capitalism. Reality is whatever Capital says it is."Feb 13 15:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/698534709698035712Feb 13 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz Privatising any health system is=2 opening bank 2 very rich.It would b 'gutted' exploited endlessly-no concern 4 ppl only $$Feb 13 15:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/698535281343856640Feb 13 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Corps Who Profit off of our Personal & Professional Information- Demand Transparency! https://t.co/rsi4mOXhjSFeb 13 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Corps Who Profit off of our Personal & Professional Information- Demand Transparency! https://t.co/rsi4mOXhjSFeb 13 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME: Maps shaping up for 3.20Feb 13 15:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME: Maps shaping up for 3.20 | Tux MachinesFeb 13 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4 things every Linux beginner should knowFeb 13 15:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 things every Linux beginner should know | Tux MachinesFeb 13 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Poll: You Say, ‘Ship Ubuntu Tablets by theFeb 13 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Boatload’ https://t.co/SCw90UKfltFeb 13 15:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Poll: You Say, 'Ship Ubuntu Tablets by the Boatload' | FOSS ForceFeb 13 15:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MESSinAZ5/status/698539970093449216Feb 13 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MESSinAZ5: #Linux #gnu stuff is related to Android OS? Why is it ppl at Android cant answer how 2 enable usb otg mass storage 4 LG ls620 @schestowitzFeb 13 16:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian Makes It a Lot Easier for Users toFeb 13 16:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Install the Tails Anonymous Live CDFeb 13 16:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian Makes It a Lot Easier for Users to Install the Tails Anonymous Live CDFeb 13 16:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Talos Principle Is Still Struggling On TheFeb 13 16:18
TweetTuxMachines                 RadeonSI Driver https://t.co/07YFTs8GjDFeb 13 16:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Talos Principle Is Still Struggling On The RadeonSI Driver - PhoronixFeb 13 16:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mesa 3D 11.1.2 Is Out with ImprovementsFeb 13 16:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mesa 3D 11.1.2 Is Out with Nouveau, Intel i965, and RadeonSI ImprovementsFeb 13 16:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mesa 11.1.2 Offers A Platter Of Bug Fixes - PhoronixFeb 13 16:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     XCOM 2 strategy game reviewed on LinuxFeb 13 16:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | XCOM 2 strategy game reviewed on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 16:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dying Light hotfix released, should fix majorFeb 13 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 texture issue on Linux, no co-op fixes yetFeb 13 16:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/Xxpy9LqdlrFeb 13 16:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mesa 11.1.2 https://t.co/2poFWJStsoFeb 13 16:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa 11.1.2 | Tux MachinesFeb 13 16:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Radeon vs. Nouveau Gallium3D Driver PerformanceFeb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 On Mesa 11.2-dev, Linux 4.5Feb 13 16:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xenonauts 2 being made, developer tells usFeb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 should be on Linux https://t.co/gEqPBsTBpMFeb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) this too:Feb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6PXWsEVEUG (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 13 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Xenonauts 2 being made, developer tells us should be on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 16:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Frozen Synapse 2 announced, dev confirmed to us it will be on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 13 16:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenStack Solution Provider Awnix JoinsFeb 13 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical's Cloud Partner ProgrammeFeb 13 16:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenStack Solution Provider Awnix Joins Canonical's Cloud Partner ProgrammeFeb 13 16:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MaruOS gets kudos for source code releasesFeb 13 16:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Debian For Android Maru Project Is Being Open-Sourced - PhoronixFeb 13 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Maru, the Debian for Android Project, Goes Open SourceFeb 13 16:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More Fedora 24 Changes Approved, IncludingFeb 13 16:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | More Fedora 24 Changes Approved, Including GNOME 3.20 & Glibc 2.23 - PhoronixFeb 13 16:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/698547774036381701Feb 13 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz #ilovefs #encryption Will not help if you keep signing away your #privacy rights using SmartTech Apps https://t.co/czeKWl9SN7Feb 13 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz #ilovefs #encryption Will not help if you keep signing away your #privacy rights using SmartTech Apps https://t.co/czeKWl9SN7Feb 13 16:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mesa 3D 11.1.2 Is Out with Nouveau, Intel i965, and RadeonSI ImprovementsFeb 13 17:10
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'OpenStack Solution Provider Awnix Joins Canonical's Cloud Partner...'Feb 13 17:10
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MaruOS gets kudos for source code releases https://t.co/kH6xkR28Yp...'Feb 13 17:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/GlgDnTzZTOFeb 13 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 13 17:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7036802Feb 13 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android-x86 4.4-r5 Screencast and Screenshots http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-screencasts-and-screenshots-114/android-x86-4-4-r5-screencast-and-screenshots-4175571842/ but there are reasons to distrust the developers http://techrights.org/2014/03/27/chih-wei-huang-rants/Feb 13 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxquestions.org | Android-x86 4.4-r5 Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 13 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Chih-Wei Huang is Trying to Start Misguided Antitrust Case Against Android/Linux (Through Google) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/oimep ]Feb 13 17:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/vR0EYbnOnoFeb 13 18:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 13 18:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/yPvV9hKMRMFeb 13 18:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 13 18:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/4pO4unG8WsFeb 13 18:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 13 18:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7036344Feb 13 18:16
schestowitz"Feb 13 18:16
schestowitzFor me Unity was the reason to turn my back to Ubuntu. After using Debian for a while, I tried Linux Mint Cinnamon and I am still happy with it. Everything works right out of the box.Feb 13 18:16
schestowitzI probably would switch back to Debian but because Debian is my greatest love. But because I gently pushed several members of my family into Mint, I keep using it myself so I can give maximum support.Feb 13 18:16
schestowitzI run several Debian servers so it doesn’t feel like cheating.Feb 13 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the Unity Launcher with Nautilus http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/watch-ubuntu-16-04-lts-will-properly-integrate-the-unity-launcher-with-nautilus-500362.shtmlFeb 13 18:16
schestowitz"Feb 13 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Properly Integrate the Unity Launcher with Nautilus [ http://ur1.ca/oimjz ]Feb 13 18:16
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MinceRhttp://theweek.com/speedreads/538379/samsung-warns-customers-not-discuss-personal-information-front-smart-tvsFeb 13 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theweek.com | Samsung warns customers not to discuss personal information in front of smart TVsFeb 13 19:10
MinceR(old)Feb 13 19:10
schestowitzyeah, classicFeb 13 19:36
schestowitzI think LG may have tried something similarFeb 13 19:37
schestowitzbut can't recall for sure nowFeb 13 19:37
schestowitzmaybe it was something similar, not identicalFeb 13 19:37
schestowitzKoreans don't value privacyFeb 13 19:37
schestowitz!google spy korea meddle in electio Feb 13 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Former South Korea spy chief gets jail for election meddling | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-spy-idUSKBN0LD0SW20150209Feb 13 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Former Spy Chief in South Korea Sentenced in Election Case - The ... | http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/10/world/asia/former-spy-chief-in-south-korea-sentenced-in-election-case.htmlFeb 13 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - South Korea jails former spy chief for meddling in 2012 election ... | http://www.dw.com/en/south-korea-jails-former-spy-chief-for-meddling-in-2012-election/a-18244458Feb 13 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - South Korea spy chief sentenced to three years in prison - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31284704Feb 13 19:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JohnnySoftware/status/698590984305774592Feb 13 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnnySoftware: @schestowitz #NewsCorp knows all about #hacking violating #privacy & #security. # of parses? "News Corp out hacking" https://t.co/P3DA6BOEYCFeb 13 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | News International phone hacking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 13 19:42
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RoeyhelloFeb 13 22:00
Roeyschestowitz: I just read your article at http://techrights.org/2016/02/10/extorting-acer-with-patents/Feb 13 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Continues to Use Software Patents to Extort/Blackmail Even More Companies That Use Linux, Forcing/Coercing Them Into Preinstalling Microsoft | TechrightsFeb 13 22:00
Roeyschestowitz:  gosh this devious thing just keeps grinding on... MS helped Caldera's successor against IBM, Trak Auto, etc.; it just never ends, does itFeb 13 22:01
MinceRmaybe it will end once redhat destroys unix and gets bought by microsoftFeb 13 22:02
MinceRor once general purpose computers are banned to possess by the general populationFeb 13 22:02
MinceRor once the human species finally managed to exterminate itselfFeb 13 22:02
Roey<MinceR> or once general purpose computers are banned to possess by the general populationFeb 13 22:03
schestowitzhi RoeyFeb 13 22:03
Roeyahlan RoyFeb 13 22:03
Roeyschestowitz: do you speak HebrewFeb 13 22:04
Roey?Feb 13 22:04
RoeyI got the impression that you're Israeli tooFeb 13 22:04
schestowitzno, GermanFeb 13 22:04
Roeyahhhh okayFeb 13 22:04
Roeyyou speak German?Feb 13 22:04
schestowitzRegarding Caldera, that's old news...Feb 13 22:04
Roeywell yesFeb 13 22:04
schestowitzNovell and all, not the point of this articleFeb 13 22:04
Roeyright.Feb 13 22:04
schestowitza previous one covered the SCO stuffFeb 13 22:04
RoeyI appreciate that you covered this.  This is darned insidious and I hope that news of this gets more traction (I've known for years that MS has made vassals of many Android vendors)Feb 13 22:05
schestowitz!google sco ibm new microsoft techrightsFeb 13 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft's Copyrights- and Patents-Based Attacks on ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2016/02/09/microsoft-attacks-on-linux-2016/Feb 13 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft is Not Done With SCO Yet | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2013/06/18/sco-vs-ibm-resumes/Feb 13 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Canonical Goes to Bed With Company That Sues Linux ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2015/03/22/canonical-and-microsoft/Feb 13 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - IBM Bemoans the Collapse of Software Patents in the ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2015/10/30/apple-lawsuit-and-ibm-swpats/Feb 13 22:05
RoeyahFeb 13 22:05
schestowitzsee [1]Feb 13 22:05
RoeycheckingFeb 13 22:06
schestowitzthe Android thing is a travestyFeb 13 22:06
schestowitzmany news sites still paint this as Microsoft as some king of Android champions with 73 or 74 OEMs and OfficeFeb 13 22:06
schestowitzBut they conveniently ignore the context Feb 13 22:06
schestowitzThey're "good" boys and girls, they write what Microsoft tells themFeb 13 22:07
schestowitzand what OEMs under NDAs can't talk aboutFeb 13 22:07
Roeyoh wow, you had just covered that this week I seeFeb 13 22:07
schestowitzit did get to the top of reddit's linux subFeb 13 22:07
Roeyso what happened now with MS contacting your employer?!Feb 13 22:07
Roeyoh ok wonderfulFeb 13 22:07
schestowitzthat's something I only found out about recently, my employer told meFeb 13 22:08
Roeythe chutzpah.Feb 13 22:08
schestowitz2 months ago in Alton Towers, near StokeFeb 13 22:08
schestowitzwell, MicrosoftFeb 13 22:08
RoeyI also get the sense that this is getting scuttled in the media (news of these shady deals)Feb 13 22:08
schestowitzThey're so sure they're always right, like NetanyahuFeb 13 22:08
RoeyahFeb 13 22:08
Roeywell I mean I'm for Netanyahu in many respects.Feb 13 22:08
Roeythat's a separate issueFeb 13 22:08
schestowitzwell, the patent aspects need to be revisited by the mediaFeb 13 22:09
schestowitzbecause they totally miss the full storyFeb 13 22:09
Roeyto wht endFeb 13 22:09
schestowitzmary jo foley at least touched this aspectFeb 13 22:09
Roey*to what endFeb 13 22:09
RoeyI hadn't figured her for an outright shill like you mentioned in your articleFeb 13 22:09
RoeyI had thought that she's clueless or neutralFeb 13 22:09
schestowitzSee the article from her that's cited in [1] aboveFeb 13 22:09
Roeythank youFeb 13 22:09
schestowitzshe had covered, to her credit, similar issues beforeFeb 13 22:09
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:10
schestowitzLike that time MS sued Samsung with patentsFeb 13 22:10
schestowitzand then settled, with Samsung agreeing to carry MS malware on AndroidFeb 13 22:10
RoeyI get the impression that many journalists simply forgot that MS is leeching off of Android vendorsFeb 13 22:10
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:10
Roeyoh MS malware? I hadn't known thatFeb 13 22:10
schestowitzInstead of MS asking them for patent royalties or paying them for preloads it does a bundleFeb 13 22:10
schestowitzand the media just magically overlooks itFeb 13 22:10
Roeywhat kind of software?  MS software?  Or code modules that had nothing to do with user-end software?Feb 13 22:10
schestowitz!google google paid apple billion for searchFeb 13 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Google Paid Apple $1 Billion to Keep Search Bar on iPhone ... | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-22/google-paid-apple-1-billion-to-keep-search-bar-on-iphoneFeb 13 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google paid Apple $1 billion in 2014 to remain the default iOS ... | http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/22/10813558/google-apple-1-billion-default-ios-searchFeb 13 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Google paid Apple $1 billion to be the default search on iOS | http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/22/google-paid-apple-one-billion-dollars/Feb 13 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google paid Apple $1 billion in 2014 to keep it the default search ... | http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/21/google-paid-apple-1-billion-in-2014-to-keep-it-the-default-search-engine-on-ios-devices/Feb 13 22:10
Roey*end-userFeb 13 22:10
RoeythanksFeb 13 22:11
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:11
RoeyI have read thatFeb 13 22:11
schestowitzOutlook, Live (?) Drive (One Drive they call it now?), Office...Feb 13 22:11
Roeymaybne one of your artciles above actuallyFeb 13 22:11
schestowitzSkype too in some casesFeb 13 22:11
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:11
Roeymind if I lurk here?Feb 13 22:11
Roeyin this channel?Feb 13 22:11
schestowitzIt's coercion with patentsFeb 13 22:11
schestowitzthe site mostly focuses on patents right nowFeb 13 22:12
Roeyseems liek a good place to be since this is near and dear to my heartFeb 13 22:12
RoeyayeFeb 13 22:12
schestowitza lot of "Linux" sites overlook the Big IssuesFeb 13 22:12
MinceROne Platform, One Drive, One Fuhrer!Feb 13 22:12
schestowitzGroklaw did well, but it's history nowFeb 13 22:12
schestowitzMinceR: systemd again?Feb 13 22:12
RoeyMinceR:  come on ;) this is just businessFeb 13 22:12
RoeyMinceR:  there's no emotion in itFeb 13 22:12
schestowitzMinceR: we're talking about MS ;-)Feb 13 22:12
MinceRschestowitz: no, microsoftFeb 13 22:13
MinceRthey're the one who have One DriveFeb 13 22:13
MinceRand One Microsoft WayFeb 13 22:13
schestowitzyeah, I was banteringFeb 13 22:13
MinceRbut yeah, redcrap also only has One Way for everyoneFeb 13 22:14
MinceRsystemd or the highwayFeb 13 22:14
MinceRRoey: i take issue with "business" that's about taking my rights and freedom awayFeb 13 22:14
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz> @JesselynRadack  #BREAKING: #SCOTUS Justice Antonin #ScaliaFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 found #dead at West TX ranchFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 https://t.co/rhs4MH9y7D (www.sfgate.com)Feb 13 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com | Senior U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia found dead at West Texas ranch - SFGateFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 #Vacancy4DemPrezApptFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz>                 #ShiftsCourt2LiberalsFeb 13 22:16
schestowitz[22:14] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinb8Feb 13 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'ur1.ca' ( status 0 @ http://ur1.ca/oinb8 )Feb 13 22:16
schestowitzHe was a bad justiceFeb 13 22:16
schestowitzbut he opposed MS on some issues, pertaining to swpats for exampleFeb 13 22:16
schestowitzzoobab: ^^Feb 13 22:16
schestowitzThe fact that he lived in a Texas ranch explained his political slantFeb 13 22:18
XFaCEholy shit scalia is dead?Feb 13 22:18
schestowitznot regarding patent trolls, but Conservatism in all sorts of ways, I didn't know he was from thereFeb 13 22:18
RoeyyeahFeb 13 22:18
schestowitzXFaCE: expect it to be big news this coming weekFeb 13 22:18
schestowitzhe was probably the best known SCOTUS JusticeFeb 13 22:19
XFaCEindeedFeb 13 22:19
schestowitznot for all the right reasons, rather his contrarian (tr human rights) viewsFeb 13 22:19
schestowitzBut there's some good news (for MinceR) https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2016-February/035748.htmlFeb 13 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v229 [ http://ur1.ca/oince ]Feb 13 22:20
MinceRwhat, are they ending systemd?Feb 13 22:21
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonin_ScaliaFeb 13 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Antonin Scalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oinct ]Feb 13 22:22
MinceRor did ratcrap finally hire a software engineer to redo the whole "design" from scratch?Feb 13 22:22
schestowitz"Antonin Gregory Scalia (Listeni/skəˈliːə/; March 11, 1936 – February 13, 2016[1][2])"Feb 13 22:22
schestowitz"Nominated by Ronald Reagan"Feb 13 22:22
MinceRbig surpriseFeb 13 22:23
schestowitz"Scalia was reported to have died overnight in his sleep after a day spent hunting quails at Cibolo Creek Ranch, 33 miles south of Marfa, Texas, at the age of 79"Feb 13 22:23
schestowitzkarma, he killed animals and then diedFeb 13 22:23
Roeyfucking serves him rightFeb 13 22:23
schestowitzI won't miss himFeb 13 22:23
Roeyhunting quails? arghFeb 13 22:23
XFaCEschestowitz: Maybe Obama will appoint Bill Gates as the new judge - didn't he drop out of law school?Feb 13 22:24
MinceR:>Feb 13 22:24
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuailFeb 13 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Quail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 13 22:24
schestowitzMore cute then Mafioso AntonioFeb 13 22:24
MinceRcompetence is not a criterion in 2016Feb 13 22:24
schestowitz*tjhanFeb 13 22:24
MinceRif it ever wasFeb 13 22:25
schestowitzthey got more 'conservative' with ageFeb 13 22:25
schestowitzlike whiskeyFeb 13 22:25
MinceRi think that's called "dementia"Feb 13 22:25
schestowitzhe did a lot of damage to human rights causes in the supreme courtFeb 13 22:25
schestowitzWikipedia covers many of themFeb 13 22:25
schestowitzWe'll see if Sanders can nominate someone with more than 2 b rain cellsFeb 13 22:25
schestowitz(and a bible)Feb 13 22:26
schestowitzScalia was nominated 30 years ago by Reagan, whose main qualification if posturing and pretending to be a real person with real occupationsFeb 13 22:26
schestowitz /s/if/is/Feb 13 22:27
schestowitzAt first I thought he had been murdered or something, but no... he died without pain apparentlyFeb 13 22:27
RoeybackFeb 13 22:27
Roey(was on the phone)Feb 13 22:27
schestowitzhe probably thought he'd climb some ladder to Heaven by nowFeb 13 22:27
Roeyhe died without pain?  If only the quail he shot could have been granted that.Feb 13 22:27
schestowitzinstead he remains asleep in his bed on a Saturday morningFeb 13 22:27
Roey(disclosure: I'm vegan for animal rights)Feb 13 22:28
schestowitzI should be too, maybe in the future...Feb 13 22:28
RoeyahFeb 13 22:28
Roeybtw the reason why I was asking if you speka Hebrew was because schestowitz sounds like an Israeli name and I come from there originallyFeb 13 22:28
Roeyand also Roy is like my name, RoeyFeb 13 22:29
XFaCE"Antonin Gregory Scalia (Listeni/skəˈliːə/; March 11, 1936 – February 13, 2016[1][2]) was an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. As the longest-serving justice on the Court, Scalia was the Senior Associate Justice. Appointed to the Court by President Ronald Reagan in 1986, Scalia has been described as the intellectual anchor for the originalist and textualist position in the Court's conservative wing.[3] And then he dieFeb 13 22:29
XFaCEd."Feb 13 22:29
Roeywhich is one of the most popular names for israelis from my generation (born 1980)Feb 13 22:29
XFaCE"And then he dided"Feb 13 22:29
XFaCE*diedFeb 13 22:29
MinceR:)Feb 13 22:30
RoeyI mean I won't celebrate anyone's deathFeb 13 22:31
schestowitzso he won't have time to cook the quailsFeb 13 22:31
Roeydoesn't mean I won't miss himFeb 13 22:31
schestowitzmaybe they can put him outside and feel him to the crowsFeb 13 22:32
Roey*doesn't mean I'll miss himFeb 13 22:32
XFaCERoey: the RMS quote I seeFeb 13 22:32
RoeyXFaCE:  is it?Feb 13 22:32
schestowitzthat would be politically-incorrectFeb 13 22:32
XFaCE"I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone"Feb 13 22:32
RoeyXFaCE:  it's a Jewish value not to celebrate someone's death.Feb 13 22:32
MinceRthat quote stirred up a lot of outragism thoughFeb 13 22:32
schestowitzXFaCE: JobsFeb 13 22:32
RoeyI strive for lifeFeb 13 22:32
schestowitzRMS on JobsFeb 13 22:32
Roeythat's why I'm veganFeb 13 22:32
MinceRgood thing i'm not jewish, thenFeb 13 22:32
schestowitzI had said worse things than RMS didFeb 13 22:32
schestowitzI'm not celebrating anyone's deathFeb 13 22:33
schestowitzI pass judgmentFeb 13 22:33
schestowitzon their deedsFeb 13 22:33
Roeylook if things were my way these kinds of people would have long healthy happy lives--out of power.Feb 13 22:33
MinceRschestowitz: i don't think you've said things as bad as what rms saidFeb 13 22:33
schestowitzAnd if that was really a value of Judaism, then it applies only to victims from among themFeb 13 22:34
MinceR"systemd is free software because it's LGPL"Feb 13 22:34
schestowitzAs IDF sure likes to celebrate the killings of particular PalestiniansFeb 13 22:34
XFaCEMinceR: shots firedFeb 13 22:34
MinceR:>Feb 13 22:34
XFaCEthe Poettering Police are comin'Feb 13 22:34
schestowitzand even upload murder videos to youtubeFeb 13 22:34
Roeyschestowitz: how so?Feb 13 22:34
Roeyhow so?Feb 13 22:34
schestowitzin their official youtube channels, which violates ToS of Google AFAIKFeb 13 22:34
Roeythe IDF needs to show what hapepnedFeb 13 22:34
schestowitzIt's OK, Israel is exempted from these rules in GoogleFeb 13 22:34
Roeyotherwise it gets accused in the media for things it did not do.Feb 13 22:35
RoeyI'm totally on-board with that.Feb 13 22:35
schestowitzcomplete with annotation celebrating the deathFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzI could find articles about itFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzthey make it like a video gameFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzthe US does it too sometimesFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzbut the US is not generally JewishFeb 13 22:35
schestowitzand I don't think they claim to bemoan the deaths of every personFeb 13 22:35
RoeyIf one person "celebrated" the ending of a life, that's pretty bad.  But I don't see the IDF doing this, or the Israeli society as a whole for that matter.  Feb 13 22:36
schestowitzYou need to pay closer attention thenFeb 13 22:36
Roeyand it /pales/ in comparison to how Palestinian Arabs celebrate each and every one of their terrorists as "martyrs" for their cause.Feb 13 22:36
schestowitzor maybe it's not shown to the inside, owing to poatent censorshipFeb 13 22:36
schestowitz!google idf censors blogs facebook postsFeb 13 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - IDF demands popular Israeli bloggers submit posts to censor - RT.com | https://www.rt.com/news/331628-idf-bloggers-cenzorship-facebook/Feb 13 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - IDF censor requires bloggers to submit posts for review | Middle East ... | http://www.dw.com/en/idf-censor-requires-bloggers-to-submit-posts-for-review/a-19031041Feb 13 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Israel's Military Censor Takes on Dozens of Bloggers, Facebook ... | http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.701462Feb 13 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - IDF censor requires bloggers to submit posts for review: Israeli ... | https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/44ittl/idf_censor_requires_bloggers_to_submit_posts_for/Feb 13 22:36
schestowitzBut anyway, that's off topicFeb 13 22:37
MinceRthen perhaps that rule should be changed to reflect the practiceFeb 13 22:37
RoeyyeahFeb 13 22:37
RoeyI'mk fine with thatFeb 13 22:37
MinceRunless of course it's there so they can point at something when they suppress a video they don't likeFeb 13 22:37
schestowitzunless one says it's not OK to chastise Scalia right now because of "jewish values"Feb 13 22:37
schestowitzScalia was a major arseholeFeb 13 22:37
schestowitzupon his death it's important to set the consensus rightFeb 13 22:37
RoeybbiabFeb 13 22:37
schestowitznot to let eulogies rewrite his recordFeb 13 22:37
MinceRit's pretty sad how much people rely on a few companies to publish their stuff on the webFeb 13 22:38
schestowitzyeahFeb 13 22:38
schestowitzI give them the fingerFeb 13 22:38
MinceRexposing themselves to suppression that wayFeb 13 22:38
schestowitz!google google ends picasaFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Picasa Desktop Users Prompted To Move To Google Photos Backup ... | http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/23/picasa-desktop-users-prompted-to-move-to-google-photos-backup-instead/Feb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Picasa Web Albums - Google | https://picasaweb.google.com/Feb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Picasa – Organize, edit, and share your photos - Google | https://picasa.google.com/Feb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Picasa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PicasaFeb 13 22:38
schestowitz!google google shut down google drive clientFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Uninstall Google Drive for your Mac/PC - Drive Help | https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375081%3Fhl%3DenFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Common errors in Google Drive - Drive Help - the Google Help Center | https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2456903%3Fhl%3DenFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Disconnect your computer from Drive - Drive Help - the Google Help ... | https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2922789%3Fhl%3DenFeb 13 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google Drive Help Forum - Google Product Forums | https://productforums.google.com/forum/%23!forum/driveFeb 13 22:38
schestowitzThat's something I saw earlier this evening (in reddit)Feb 13 22:38
schestowitzSo much for Google 'cloud'...Feb 13 22:38
schestowitzhttp://fossbytes.com/google-is-shutting-down-picasa-on-may-1-2016/ http://imgur.com/1IxK4hRFeb 13 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Google Is Shutting Down Picasa On May 1, 2016Feb 13 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | It appears Google has abandoned work on the Drive client - ImgurFeb 13 22:39
schestowitzThat's what I foundFeb 13 22:39
schestowitz!google google TRTBF europe expandedFeb 13 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - EU to Google: expand 'right to be forgotten' to Google.com ... | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/27/eu-to-google-expand-right-to-be-forgotten-to-googlecomFeb 13 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - NY Times Warns About Europe Expanding The 'Right To Be ... | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151221/17464733153/ny-times-warns-about-europe-expanding-right-to-be-forgotten.shtmlFeb 13 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Right to be forgotten - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgottenFeb 13 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google To Remove Right-To-Be-Forgotten Links Worldwide, For ... | http://searchengineland.com/google-to-remove-all-right-to-be-forgotten-links-from-european-index-242235Feb 13 22:39
schestowitzone point to censor allFeb 13 22:39
schestowitzas many people use google to find things, or do researchFeb 13 22:39
schestowitzhttps://plus.google.com/+MartinPitti/posts/UU7vabfTAJVFeb 13 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus.google.com | Hot on the heels of the upstream release I now uploaded systemd 229 to Debian… [ http://ur1.ca/oing6 ]Feb 13 22:42
schestowitz"Hot on the heels of the upstream release I now uploaded systemd 229 to Debian and Ubuntu. I'm regularly building and testing upstream master (https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/ubuntu/systemd) and both the automatic CI and manual testing are all green now."Feb 13 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-launchpad.net | systemd : Martin Pitt [ http://ur1.ca/oing7 ]Feb 13 22:42
schestowitzMinceR: ^^Feb 13 22:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android More Leftovers https://t.co/YmpMLXCNDIFeb 13 22:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 13 22:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oing8Feb 13 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android More Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 13 22:42
*TweetTuxMachines @setcatlazare followed @tuxmachinesFeb 13 22:42
MinceRso what?Feb 13 22:42
MinceRthey've churned out new unstable releases for yearsFeb 13 22:42
schestowitzReminds me of Jo Shields and MonoFeb 13 22:43
schestowitzWhich he put in Ubuntu and DebianFeb 13 22:44
schestowitzhe now works for Xamarin BTWFeb 13 22:44
schestowitzSo basically he got close enough to his 'Gods'Feb 13 22:44
schestowitz22:51] <TweetSchestowitz> @ggreenwald      I personally recall with great fondness whenFeb 13 22:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz>                 Antonin Scalia twice vehemently argued for theFeb 13 22:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz>                 right of states to imprison homosexuals forFeb 13 22:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz>                 sex.Feb 13 22:56
schestowitz[22:51] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinhnFeb 13 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: I personally recall with great fondness when Antonin Scalia twice vehemently argued for the right of states to imprison homosexuals for sex.Feb 13 22:56
schestowitzWhat a poor ol' manFeb 13 22:56
schestowitzMaybe he'd fit well in UgandaFeb 13 22:56
schestowitzMaybe his coffin can be catapulted there for burialFeb 13 22:56
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/45kk6k/so_what_happened_to_that_turfwar_that_happened/Feb 13 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | So what happened to that turf-war that happened here few days ago because of a Github related post? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oinim ]Feb 13 22:58
schestowitzI think it's feasibleFeb 13 22:59
schestowitzto reuse a joke from Hitchens, they can give him an enema firstFeb 13 22:59
schestowitzthen they can fit him into a matchboxFeb 13 22:59
schestowitz[old] http://www.wired.com/2015/03/need-free-digital-hardware-designs/Feb 13 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/k3pwq ]Feb 13 23:00
MinceRloolFeb 13 23:02
MinceRs/oo/o/Feb 13 23:02
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schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/85931Feb 13 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android More Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 13 23:04
XFaCEschestowitz: what github thing?Feb 13 23:05
schestowitzoopsFeb 13 23:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hintjens/status/698583168677519360Feb 13 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hintjens: Building native extensions for node.js... and node-gyp builds dependencies in bizarrely random directories. Time to hack node-gyp...Feb 13 23:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/698588573998649345  Feb 13 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @nilssonanders if you combine that with an hostile ap that creates SSIDs on the fly from client beacons :-)Feb 13 23:07
schestowitzThis is what I originally mean to paste https://twitter.com/nilssonanders/status/698497237018664960Feb 13 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nilssonanders: Evil plan: Open wifi hotspot which intercepts NTP traffic, and returns January 1st, 1970.Feb 13 23:07
schestowitz^^ appleFeb 13 23:07
schestowitzXFaCE: see threatFeb 13 23:07
schestowitz*threadFeb 13 23:07
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz> @ggreenwald      The ONLY reason we're talking about him isFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz>                 because of his political impact. So of courseFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz>                 it should be politicized.Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz>                 https://t.co/aIYaztRf9V (twitter.com)Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinm9Feb 13 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@prisonculture: We absolutely SHOULD BE politicizing Scalia's death. He was a POLITICAL APPOINTMENT.Feb 13 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: The ONLY reason we're talking about him is because of his political impact. So of course it should be politicized. https://t.co/aIYaztRf9VFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] [Notice] -TechrightsSocial to #boycottnovell-social- @prisonculture: We absolutely SHOULD BE politicizing Scalia's death. He was a POLITICAL APPOINTMENT.Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:18] * TweetSchestowitz @MMFlint deleted 'Before the body is cold, Republicans demand Obama...'Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz> @MMFlint         Before the body is cold, Republicans demandFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz>                 Obama not be President for the next 11 &1/4Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz>                 months & just let the Court remain paralyzed atFeb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:19] <TweetSchestowitz>                 4-4.Feb 13 23:23
schestowitz[23:20] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................  http://ur1.ca/oinmhFeb 13 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MMFlint: Before the body is cold, Republicans demand Obama not be President for the next 11 &1/4 months & just let the Court remain paralyzed at 4-4.Feb 13 23:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/698635370565492736Feb 13 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 But more fun with Linux .... 😇😎Feb 13 23:34

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