Join us now at the IRC channel.
| -->daemol (~daemol@117.196.165.173) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 00:05 | |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, I'll probably end up using my Best Buy rewards points to get the fastest USB 3 flash drive they sell and run Linux that. | Sep 25 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| DaemonFC | I have three USB ports, but one of them is also where the power adapter plugs in. | Sep 25 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | So if you use it as USB, you can't charge the laptop at the same time. | Sep 25 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | I also have an SD card slot. | Sep 25 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Which is faster? | Sep 25 00:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @moriartym3 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 00:12 | |
| cubexyz | I think SSD would be faster than even a USB 3.0 hard drive | Sep 25 00:13 |
| cubexyz | especially for small read/writes | Sep 25 00:14 |
| cubexyz | no moving parts in the SSD, so virtually no seek time | Sep 25 00:14 |
| <--daemol has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 25 00:15 | |
| cubexyz | USB vs microSD hmmm | Sep 25 00:17 |
| cubexyz | the microSD card should still be faster | Sep 25 00:18 |
| cubexyz | might not be a big difference though | Sep 25 00:18 |
| cubexyz | a fast class 10 SD card might be the way to go | Sep 25 00:20 |
| MinceR | not UHS-I? :> | Sep 25 00:20 |
| MinceR | though i guess it also depends on what the host supports | Sep 25 00:20 |
| cubexyz | does the Yoga have that? :) | Sep 25 00:21 |
| MinceR | dunno | Sep 25 00:21 |
| cubexyz | it's got a 4-in-1 card reader: SD, MMC, SDXC, SDHC | Sep 25 00:23 |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 25 00:26 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-091-096-173-005.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 00:28 | |
| cubexyz | I think class 10 would imply UHS-1 | Sep 25 00:29 |
| cubexyz | e.g. 256 gb SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 90 mb/s reads, 45 mb/s writes | Sep 25 00:31 |
| cubexyz | unless the BIOS mucks it up, hohoho | Sep 25 00:32 |
| ---cmdshftn_ is now known as cmdshftn | Sep 25 00:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ashucg97 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 00:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/gnome_asia/status/779904216345088001 | Sep 25 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester | Sep 25 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @gnome_asia #uk with #gnomelove cake and drinks | Sep 25 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8BqcmQUFds | Sep 25 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 00:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with #gnomelove cake and drinks https://t.co/8BqcmQUFds | Sep 25 00:57 | |
| DaemonFC | About the only good thing about the Signature Edition PCs is that they don't come with the useless trial software. | Sep 25 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently it's getting so bad that there are up to 32 pieces of it on the average new PC. | Sep 25 01:05 |
| <--liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 25 01:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | [00:05] <DaemonFC> http://imgur.com/a/NAEm5 | Sep 25 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Sep 25 01:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | Good that you captured it | Sep 25 01:19 |
| r_schestowitz | can also print as PDF some pages | Sep 25 01:19 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @starryg16 favourited '#GNOME Release Party #Manchester https://t.co/9k6AB6wq2j #gnomeparty #gnomelove...' | Sep 25 01:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Release Party Manchester | Tux Machines | Sep 25 01:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Hamid_446/status/779583986804948992 | Sep 25 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Hamid_446: @tuxmachines why only 4 toes in gnome? | Sep 25 01:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RootUsers_/status/774433774662660096 | Sep 25 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RootUsers_: @tuxmachines XZ is my favourite! Better compression than gzip -9 with xz -1 and usually faster. | Sep 25 01:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines why only 4 toes in gnome?' | Sep 25 01:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines XZ is my favourite! Better compression than...' | Sep 25 01:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Why is the starter kit so expensive? https://t.co/wJdBV0OaLT' | Sep 25 01:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: The @Raspberry_Pi Has Sold Over 10 Million Units, Celebrates with New Starter Kit https://t.co/hCc66b37iS | Sep 25 01:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.omgubuntu.co.uk | The Raspberry Pi Has Sold Over 10 Million Units, Celebrates with New Starter Kit - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 25 01:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Cc @zagerduerin https://t.co/yQ1JxP0GAW' | Sep 25 01:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: today's howtos https://t.co/22O7EXiovc | Sep 25 01:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 25 01:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'This is stupid, there is a setting in...' | Sep 25 01:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @opensourceway 7 years. I'm living in DRC.' | Sep 25 01:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines all while Ubuntu becomes more corporate and...' | Sep 25 01:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @fossbytes14 Every word and idea were STOLEN...' | Sep 25 01:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines any info about Debian ?' | Sep 25 01:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines We're working on a music player for...' | Sep 25 01:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Presentation-ing within a Linux Terminal @tuxmachines @NetworkWorld @BryanLunduke...' | Sep 25 01:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines the worst software center ever made.' | Sep 25 01:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: got this: | Sep 25 01:45 |
| r_schestowitz | Re: Libreboot Report. | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > Leah seems to be taking a lot of insults from trolls and is bothering to read | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > them. See, | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > https://libreboot.org/gnu-insult/ | Sep 25 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://libreboot.org/gnu-insult/ ) | Sep 25 01:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > and | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreboot/2016-09/msg00089.html | Sep 25 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | [Libreboot] Fwd: Re: Future of Libreboot | Sep 25 01:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > I've suggested she find someone to filter that kind of crap out for her. | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > At this point, I can't tell what GNU has really said. I'll have to see an | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > official statement and don't want to speculate. | Sep 25 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | I read some article about it yesterday and I can see how the whole thing is backfiring. There was an unnecessary mess there and it's a shame it was taken public like thus (poor handling). | Sep 25 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv2ZMN3T18E | Sep 25 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Sep 25 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Park - Safe Space - "Reality Crashes The Party" - YouTube | Sep 25 01:58 | |
| DaemonFC | I see that Easylist has decided to block those annoying Wikipedia fundraising messages. | Sep 25 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | About time. I had to use a custom filter for those. | Sep 25 02:07 |
| -->liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 02:37 | |
| brendyn | Is it a good idea to block donation requests by defualt? | Sep 25 03:04 |
| brendyn | Re Libreboot & GNU: Looks like Leah might be a bit crazy in this case? (obviously I have no issues with being transgender) | Sep 25 03:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @schestowitz What to expect ? Both got...' | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bsdfortune http://twitter.com/bsdfortune/status/779936917672620032 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest BSD fortune BSD digest! | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7VD6vkAsUO (paper.li) Thanks to @dravirmani | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @karinjiri | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | BSD fortune BSD digest | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| -->Cookie` (~cookie@4.86.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 03:16 | |
| <--Cookie` has quit (Changing host) | Sep 25 03:16 | |
| -->Cookie` (~cookie@hpavc/Cookie) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 03:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ari_akm retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 03:37 | |
| -->MarkBilk_ (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 03:46 | |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 25 03:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | brendyn: yes, irrational | Sep 25 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | I know more, but was asked not to talk about it publicly | Sep 25 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | libreboot might boot leah | Sep 25 04:14 |
| -->antilope (53a2b42f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.162.180.47) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 04:23 | |
| antilope | hello Roy | Sep 25 04:23 |
| r_schestowitz | hi | Sep 25 04:23 |
| r_schestowitz | how are you? | Sep 25 04:23 |
| antilope | last friday BB put 3 reports on our intranet, big big reports i tell you you should get copies | Sep 25 04:23 |
| antilope | i am fine | Sep 25 04:24 |
| antilope | money money money that what it is all b=about | Sep 25 04:24 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, i wrote about it last night | Sep 25 04:24 |
| r_schestowitz | about the reports | Sep 25 04:24 |
| r_schestowitz | but nobody sent me the full docs | Sep 25 04:24 |
| antilope | I am sure in short time suepo will comment on these reports, writteen by Deloitte who now suddenly are experts on patent issues | Sep 25 04:25 |
| antilope | we need a mail box for that | Sep 25 04:25 |
| antilope | for a print version | Sep 25 04:25 |
| antilope | you will be astonished | Sep 25 04:25 |
| r_schestowitz | antilope: it won't even mean money for the Office | Sep 25 04:27 |
| r_schestowitz | he's squeezing for the golden egg | Sep 25 04:28 |
| antilope | yes | Sep 25 04:28 |
| r_schestowitz | killing the goose (reputation of EPO) | Sep 25 04:28 |
| antilope | renewal fees for the office will sink dramatically (in the report called NRF) | Sep 25 04:28 |
| r_schestowitz | how can I get a copy of the docs? | Sep 25 04:28 |
| r_schestowitz | I can annotate these | Sep 25 04:28 |
| r_schestowitz | or if something passes them with added remarks | Sep 25 04:28 |
| antilope | but, theoratically, the office will collect 50 % of the state renewal fees (whhich can be zero) | Sep 25 04:28 |
| antilope | you got an e mail? | Sep 25 04:29 |
| antilope | within 3 years we are at the EPO in deep trouble as examiners | Sep 25 04:30 |
| r_schestowitz | no backlog | Sep 25 04:30 |
| r_schestowitz | just rubberstamping, I hear... | Sep 25 04:30 |
| antilope | correct | Sep 25 04:30 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, I have email | Sep 25 04:31 |
| r_schestowitz | s at schestowitz dot com | Sep 25 04:31 |
| antilope | it is a bit exagerated but it is correct | Sep 25 04:31 |
| antilope | okay understood | Sep 25 04:31 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, exaggerated for sure | Sep 25 04:31 |
| r_schestowitz | but SUEPO has a euphoric vision | Sep 25 04:31 |
| r_schestowitz | of French system being imitated | Sep 25 04:31 |
| antilope | I will see if I an get you copies | Sep 25 04:32 |
| antilope | it is very interesting stuff you know | Sep 25 04:32 |
| r_schestowitz | Some workers made copies | Sep 25 04:32 |
| r_schestowitz | I can publish raw first | Sep 25 04:32 |
| antilope | of course, it is public | Sep 25 04:32 |
| r_schestowitz | need to ensure no metadata hidden in there first | Sep 25 04:32 |
| antilope | but it is not on the EPO website | Sep 25 04:32 |
| antilope | exactly | Sep 25 04:32 |
| r_schestowitz | intranet | Sep 25 04:32 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 25 04:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | I know | Sep 25 04:32 |
| r_schestowitz | antilope: do we know what time it was published? | Sep 25 04:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Any timestamp on it? | Sep 25 04:33 |
| antilope | i do not know of course | Sep 25 04:33 |
| r_schestowitz | I want to know if after 5pm | Sep 25 04:33 |
| r_schestowitz | CET | Sep 25 04:34 |
| r_schestowitz | OK, I just hope someone will 'leak' it to us | Sep 25 04:34 |
| r_schestowitz | before the 'press' (IAM, MIP) 'reports' on it | Sep 25 04:34 |
| r_schestowitz | we can post a rebuttal to it | Sep 25 04:34 |
| antilope | I never leak, but as I guess this is public info it will have an AC number | Sep 25 04:34 |
| r_schestowitz | I have a lot of today with free time available and took Tuesday off wor | Sep 25 04:34 |
| r_schestowitz | *work | Sep 25 04:34 |
| r_schestowitz | if you can find a link to it, that might help too | Sep 25 04:35 |
| antilope | yes | Sep 25 04:35 |
| r_schestowitz | but AFAIK, there's no such link yet | Sep 25 04:35 |
| r_schestowitz | we need to undermine the puff pieces before they start coming | Sep 25 04:35 |
| antilope | you better be fast | Sep 25 04:35 |
| r_schestowitz | and then link to this, to highlight the issues to so-called journalists like Joff | Sep 25 04:35 |
| antilope | in the reports it is one big hurraaa story | Sep 25 04:36 |
| r_schestowitz | well, it might start Monday on IAM | Sep 25 04:36 |
| r_schestowitz | and 'part 2' of the Nurton 'interview' with Batti at MIP | Sep 25 04:36 |
| antilope | i gotta go speak later srry | Sep 25 04:36 |
| r_schestowitz | Which he said would cover "social" issues | Sep 25 04:36 |
| <--antilope has quit (Quit: Page closed) | Sep 25 04:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | they work on cooperation with EPO on this | Sep 25 04:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779963711616417792 | Sep 25 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A short critique of Stallmanism https://t.co/qjnnDIAhFp | Sep 25 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (jancorazza.com) | Sep 25 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 04:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jancorazza.com | A short critique of Stallmanism | Sep 25 04:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/779960594464116738 | Sep 25 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @wikileaks @schestowitz You are falling for a speech writer. He suggests Hillary would be more a 'war president' than Trump is. *eyeroll* | Sep 25 04:49 | |
| r_schestowitz | I agree with you... | Sep 25 04:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @BinaryBoss192 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 05:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779970589918461952 | Sep 25 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi Mi Box seen at Walmart shelf for $69 | Sep 25 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bMKM2tpdZv (www.androidauthority.com) | Sep 25 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 05:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Xiaomi Mi Box seen at Walmart shelf for $69 - Android Authority | Sep 25 05:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779971258876325888 | Sep 25 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bodhi 2.2.2 released https://t.co/pXBeWQ31Wc (github.com) | Sep 25 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 05:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Release Bodhi 2.2.2 released · fedora-infra/bodhi · GitHub | Sep 25 05:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779971838214561792 | Sep 25 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Ambassadors: Measuring Success | Sep 25 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KBxnaIKDSV (hub.cprofitt.com) | Sep 25 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 05:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hub.cprofitt.com | Charles Profitt — Fedora Ambassadors: Measuring Success | Sep 25 05:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779972476122099712 | Sep 25 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sony Xperia XZ pre-orders go live, available on October 2 | Sep 25 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z5FjEmKMuw (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 25 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 05:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Sony Xperia XZ pre-orders go live, available on October 2 | Sep 25 05:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @slaf66 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 05:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779975131099639808 | Sep 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google may unveil merged Android and Chrome OS, dubbed | Sep 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda, at event https://t.co/RzrcXzdjDk | Sep 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.digitaltrends.com) | Sep 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 05:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | NO TITLE | Sep 25 05:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779976053422825472 | Sep 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A short critique of Stallmanism https://t.co/Yluhhc1do9 | Sep 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 05:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A short critique of Stallmanism | Tux Machines | Sep 25 05:29 | |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 05:33 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 25 05:33 |
| r_schestowitz | 0/ | Sep 25 05:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | r_schestowitz, hi | Sep 25 05:35 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | raziel_tzu, ping | Sep 25 05:35 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pjrplan/status/779985312097374208 | Sep 25 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pjrplan: @biancawylie @opennorth @geothinkca @ODIHQ #opendata in support of resilient cities. What else can we do? https://t.co/hywj730TQf | Sep 25 06:06 | |
| <--liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 25 06:09 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 06:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/547qo5/whats_your_favorite_example_of_something_that/ | Sep 25 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What's your favorite example of something that "just works" under Linux? : linux | Sep 25 06:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53xvk9/bbc_reports_on_the_lenovo_linux_issue/ | Sep 25 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | BBC reports on the Lenovo Linux issue : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pslvz ] | Sep 25 06:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | “The BBC’s R&D department is 75% linux based, 15% Solaris based and 10% Windows/Mac” | Sep 25 06:20 |
| r_schestowitz | “Microsoft is to blame for lacking essential systems configuration options like manually overriding driver choice” https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/545faj/blame_intel_not_microsoft/ | Sep 25 06:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Blame intel not Microsoft! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pslwg ] | Sep 25 06:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/542liq/uptime_funk_uptown_funk_parody_by_suse_linux/ | Sep 25 06:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody by Suse Linux) : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pslxg ] | Sep 25 06:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRlTISvjww | Sep 25 06:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pslxh ] | Sep 25 06:28 | |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@93.175.9.239) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 06:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779976054999965697 | Sep 25 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/WDxrXFX7FA | Sep 25 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 06:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 06:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779987727030837248 | Sep 25 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My Mom Runs Linux! https://t.co/hSblEmgk2y | Sep 25 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (freedompenguin.com) | Sep 25 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 06:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | My Mom Runs Linux! - Freedom Penguin | Sep 25 06:39 | |
| -->XRevan86_ (~XRevan86@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 06:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/540nv9/whats_really_going_on_with_microsoft_lenovo_and/ | Sep 25 06:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | "What's really going on with Microsoft, Lenovo and Linux": corporate reps continue to talk as though Linux is a vendor, or at least a product : linux | Sep 25 06:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | I like the modified headline | Sep 25 06:41 |
| r_schestowitz | but they're still lying | Sep 25 06:41 |
| r_schestowitz | as in Germany there was none of the same issues | Sep 25 06:42 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/779989072693436418 | Sep 25 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: I put years of work into destroying M$ in their place @schestowitz | Sep 25 06:46 | |
| cubexyz | ok, this should be interesting... | Sep 25 06:51 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53v6u4/anybody_running_linux_on_a_dell_xps_13/ | Sep 25 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Anybody running Linux on a Dell XPS 13? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm07 ] | Sep 25 06:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: what, the above? | Sep 25 06:51 |
| r_schestowitz | or Lenovo stuff? | Sep 25 06:51 |
| cubexyz | no....can the lowly P4 handle 720p video :) | Sep 25 06:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I am catching with how Reddit had it covered | Sep 25 06:51 |
| cubexyz | I suspect not :) | Sep 25 06:51 |
| cubexyz | the Lenovo Yoga... the newer one, I'd just avoid it completely | Sep 25 06:52 |
| cubexyz | BIOS is still a big problem in general | Sep 25 06:53 |
| cubexyz | it goes back to the chips without datasheets... | Sep 25 06:53 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53rtyr/software_fredom_day_2016_how_did_you_celebrate/ | Sep 25 06:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Software Fredom Day 2016: How did you celebrate? What will you do next year? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm0t ] | Sep 25 06:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: is there a simple/mainstream way around it | Sep 25 06:57 |
| r_schestowitz | like laptops that come with coreboot or without the blobs, libreboot? | Sep 25 06:57 |
| r_schestowitz | I know about ones that are sold online | Sep 25 06:57 |
| r_schestowitz | and i think some chromebooks adopt coreboot | Sep 25 06:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779993657495674880 | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What’s New in Wayland and Weston 1.12? | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7QzoXlnWLr (blogs.s-osg.org) | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.s-osg.org/whats-new-wayland-weston-1-12/ ) | Sep 25 07:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779995936663691264 | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ElementaryOS Loki Release Follow Up | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ACtBAbFQ9k (blog.elementary.io) 45,000 | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | downloads in just days | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.elementary.io | elementary blog — Loki Release Follow Up | Sep 25 07:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779998885540487168 | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The problems with backporting are numerous." | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Wuo3Cy0HUP (lwn.net) | Sep 25 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Backports and long-term stable kernels [LWN.net] | Sep 25 07:01 | |
| cubexyz | there's really no substitute to studying the hardware closely | Sep 25 07:02 |
| cubexyz | chromebooks/boxes with crouton looks very promising though | Sep 25 07:03 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53sppb/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/ | Sep 25 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Warning: Microsoft Signature PC program now requires that you can't run Linux. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm1m ] | Sep 25 07:03 | |
| cubexyz | I've found that most hardware up to 2004 worked well, and AMI did do testing on Linux up to 2004 | Sep 25 07:04 |
| cubexyz | but repairability of chromebooks isn't the greatest | Sep 25 07:05 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54c1bd/ftpgnuorg_down/ | Sep 25 07:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | ftp.gnu.org down! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm1w ] | Sep 25 07:05 | |
| cubexyz | there's still things about Tyan slot 1 boards I'm learning about... and that's 18 years old now | Sep 25 07:06 |
| cubexyz | I never did completely learn Consumer IR | Sep 25 07:08 |
| cubexyz | there's three different IR standards | Sep 25 07:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @JewPlease favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 25 07:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 25 07:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780001029324701696 | Sep 25 07:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Swear words in Linux kernel source code | Sep 25 07:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xkUWZBMxNt (www.vidarholen.net) | Sep 25 07:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vidarholen.net | Linux kernel word count | Sep 25 07:10 | |
| cubexyz | I'd say I have a pretty good understanding of the BIOS up to the late 1990s | Sep 25 07:15 |
| cubexyz | coreboot does the minimum to get things going | Sep 25 07:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Glatorcom favourited 'Swear words in Linux kernel source code https://t.co/xkUWZBMxNt' | Sep 25 07:17 | |
| cubexyz | AMI BIOS handled more permutations | Sep 25 07:17 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 07:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003268881739776 | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CYT8BE2MUs (www.linuxforum.com) | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003346404913153 | Sep 25 07:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxforum.com | Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc | Linux Forum | Sep 25 07:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | FreeBSD 11.0 Final Release ISO Images Available For | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download https://t.co/J1ZtuwMb6M (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.0 Final Release ISO Images Available For Download | Tux Machines | Sep 25 07:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003348153978880 | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My Mom Runs Linux! https://t.co/5faeZ3Ysg9 | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Mom Runs Linux! | Tux Machines | Sep 25 07:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003349311594496 | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet of Things https://t.co/Kiv3yhj9Rn | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Sep 25 07:19 | |
| cubexyz | CW Linux offers coreboot motherboards but they sell CPU modules, not ATX stuff | Sep 25 07:21 |
| cubexyz | https://www.coreboot.org/Products | Sep 25 07:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'www.coreboot.org' ( status 0 @ https://www.coreboot.org/Products ) | Sep 25 07:22 | |
| cubexyz | linutop is the other computer that comes to mind that you can actually order | Sep 25 07:22 |
| cubexyz | 189 Euros... | Sep 25 07:23 |
| cubexyz | outside of chromebooks and the like, coreboot is still on the fringe I'm sorry to say | Sep 25 07:25 |
| r_schestowitz | wow, linutop | Sep 25 07:26 |
| r_schestowitz | haven't heard of them for years | Sep 25 07:26 |
| cubexyz | I'm not too sure they really ship with coreboot :-/ | Sep 25 07:26 |
| cubexyz | there's barely any code in /src/mainboard/linutop | Sep 25 07:27 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53yr82/why_is_there_no_ads_for_linux/ | Sep 25 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why is there no ads for Linux? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm4i ] | Sep 25 07:27 | |
| r_schestowitz | yuck | Sep 25 07:27 |
| cubexyz | but at least it works with Linux and that's well tested, no funny stuff | Sep 25 07:28 |
| cubexyz | gluglug used to sell thinkpads with libreboot | Sep 25 07:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53i097/a_warning_just_briefly_interrupted_my_tv/ | Sep 25 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | A warning just briefly interrupted my TV broadcast, and it displayed a kernel panic with a mention of Fedora before displaying the actual warning : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm4p ] | Sep 25 07:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: https://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=05.Projects&proj=07.%20Linux%20on%208bit | Sep 25 07:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dmitry.gr | Linux on an 8-bit micro? - Dmitry Grinberg [ http://ur1.ca/psm51 ] | Sep 25 07:30 | |
| r_schestowitz | your kind of turf | Sep 25 07:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @KobbyDon1 http://twitter.com/KobbyDon1/status/780003351542976513 | Sep 25 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KobbyDon : @tuxmachines-Kaspersky Lab Announces Security | Sep 25 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Sep 25 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yYc1PFs9jR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ixp10 http://twitter.com/ixp10/status/780003586042241024 | Sep 25 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KobbyDon : @tuxmachines-Kaspersky Lab Announces Security | Sep 25 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Sep 25 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9seMCWYIhI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Sep 25 07:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ThingsVentures retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet...' | Sep 25 07:37 | |
| cubexyz | 2 hours to boot to a bash prompt? no no no | Sep 25 07:40 |
| cubexyz | I would never do that | Sep 25 07:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780008269792284672 | Sep 25 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Can Justin Trudeau Fix Canada’s Broken Government IT | Sep 25 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | System? https://t.co/4nLljbsf4J (opensourcewriter.com) | Sep 25 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcewriter.com | Can Justin Trudeau Fix Canada’s Broken Government IT System? – Open Source Writer | Sep 25 07:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780008661540278272 | Sep 25 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based | Sep 25 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet of Things https://t.co/ku9MWGzc6n | Sep 25 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 25 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 07:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things - Tizen Experts | Sep 25 07:44 | |
| cubexyz | on the PDP-11/10 it didn't have a BIOS or even boot roms | Sep 25 07:48 |
| cubexyz | you had to toggle in the bootstrap loader using the front panel :) | Sep 25 07:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @offfieldsocial favourited 'Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet...' | Sep 25 07:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ThingsVentures retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet...' | Sep 25 07:54 | |
| cubexyz | running Unix on a PDP-11 or even a 68000 ok... but not 8-bit | Sep 25 08:00 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ehby/my_router_listens_on_port_22_without_being_set_to/ | Sep 25 08:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | My router listens on port 22 without being set to do it : linux | Sep 25 08:02 | |
| cubexyz | same issue at the core.... closed firmware | Sep 25 08:09 |
| cubexyz | I bet they are running stock firmware | Sep 25 08:09 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53o3te/can_i_get_6_monitors_working_on_ubuntu_now/ | Sep 25 08:11 |
| r_schestowitz | I use 4 | Sep 25 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Can I get >6 monitors working on Ubuntu now? : linux | Sep 25 08:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | but separate machines | Sep 25 08:11 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/542wh0/how_do_foss_companies_exist_without_someone_just/ | Sep 25 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | How do FOSS companies exist without someone just taking the source code and starting their own company? : linux | Sep 25 08:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | ":Wait, so you're telling me that FOSS can promote the creation of new companies (create competition also) and in turn create more jobs? ...nah, Linux and the rest of FOSS is communist /s" | Sep 25 08:17 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @allenpg favourited 'Can Justin Trudeau Fix Canada’s Broken Government IT...' | Sep 25 08:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780013096622579713 | Sep 25 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MakuluLinux LinDoz 12 Beta is Ready ! | Sep 25 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uxZN0mZypZ (www.youtube.com) | Sep 25 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 08:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MakuluLinux LinDoz 12 Beta is Ready ! - YouTube | Sep 25 08:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/780020336809172992 | Sep 25 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: I've made it through 17 years of desktop GNU/Linux @schestowitz Only had to use winduhs in someone elses office. | Sep 25 08:30 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bob_moss/status/780020969888940032 | Sep 25 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: And yet those who lead a truly aesthetic Linux-only life are still in the minority. Work still to do - Microsoft &… https://t.co/ypiTyqHTKZ | Sep 25 08:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: And yet those who lead a truly aesthetic Linux-only life are still in the minority. Work still to do - Microsoft &… https://t.co/ypiTyqHTKZ | Sep 25 08:30 | |
| ---XRevan86_ is now known as XRevan86 | Sep 25 08:40 | |
| <--slbtc has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 25 08:54 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 25 08:54 | |
| -->slbtc (~slbtc@2602:302:d113:8ce0::18) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 08:58 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 09:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780019084822011906 | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/P6nnch4Wv9 (medium.com) | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 09:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer – Medium | Sep 25 09:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031329245114369 | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5AifYSz5nZ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 09:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer | Tux Machines | Sep 25 09:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031330385993728 | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Italian Military's LibreOffice Migration Underway; | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 100,000+ PCs To Be Migrated https://t.co/SjfqFfUiY0 | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 09:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Italian Military's LibreOffice Migration Underway; 100,000+ PCs To Be Migrated | Tux Machines | Sep 25 09:09 | |
| MinceR | 25 062917 < cubexyz> I think class 10 would imply UHS-1 | Sep 25 09:16 |
| MinceR | no, the other way around :> | Sep 25 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031331807801344 | Sep 25 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/OuvBRrm6gf | Sep 25 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 09:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 09:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031333095526400 | Sep 25 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Releases https://t.co/3t0CvMTBy2 | Sep 25 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 09:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Project Releases | Tux Machines | Sep 25 09:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031334102159360 | Sep 25 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU News https://t.co/OkfvmxXstJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 09:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU News | Tux Machines | Sep 25 09:18 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 09:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Zor08 favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 25 09:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 25 09:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780036314964066304 | Sep 25 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 25/9/2016: Linux 4.7.5, 4.4.22; LXQt 0.11 | Sep 25 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hEtiSYlyAo (techrights.org) | Sep 25 09:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 09:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 25/9/2016: Linux 4.7.5, 4.4.22; LXQt 0.11 | Techrights | Sep 25 09:35 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.net/2016/09/19/9-work-cartoons-that-are-here-to-save-you-from-doing-any-work-today/ | Sep 25 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.net | 9 Work Cartoons That Are Here to Save You From Doing Any Work Today – Pleated-Jeans.com | Sep 25 10:10 | |
| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54agii/richard_stallman_and_gnu_refused_to_let_libreboot/d80gckp | Sep 25 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | postmodest comments on Richard Stallman and GNU refused to let libreboot go, despite stating its intention to leave -Leah Rowe | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| MinceR | https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8977829888/hA778F77F/ | Sep 25 10:26 |
| MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1737/ | Sep 25 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Datacenter Scale | Sep 25 10:52 | |
| cubexyz | ok, 1280x720 video on the p4 was a dismal failure :) | Sep 25 11:15 |
| cubexyz | I figure downsizing to 640x360 should work | Sep 25 11:16 |
| cubexyz | doubleplusunfun | Sep 25 11:24 |
| raziel_tzu | xD | Sep 25 11:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 25/9/2016: Linux 4.7.5, 4.4.22; LXQt 0.11 https://t.co/hEtiSYlyAo' | Sep 25 11:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 25 11:34 | |
| ---raziel_tzu is now known as razielle_tzu | Sep 25 12:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089288327168000 | Sep 25 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/MKXuEEa4E4 | Sep 25 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089289426083840 | Sep 25 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/8zofjUEMBd | Sep 25 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:59 | |
| <--acer-box____ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 13:05 | |
| <--Tervy has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 25 13:05 | |
| -->Tervy (Tervy@laamaperhe.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 13:05 | |
| -->acer-box____ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 13:05 | |
| MinceR | https://67.media.tumblr.com/fbaa675db8155f4396db75369ec67676/tumblr_o94k3567FP1soccv6o1_400.gif | Sep 25 13:29 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/SonyKapoor/status/779980472126439424 | Sep 25 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SonyKapoor: #Genius… #TrumpSandwich … https://t.co/ntiA5AS2iB | Sep 25 13:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SonyKapoor: #Genius… #TrumpSandwich … https://t.co/ntiA5AS2iB | Sep 25 13:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: seen the Trump one earlier | Sep 25 14:36 |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 25 15:19 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 15:22 | |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 15:23 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 25 15:23 | |
| <--schestowitz_log_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 25 15:23 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 15:23 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 25 15:23 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 15:23 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 25 15:23 |
| -->schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 15:23 | |
| razielle_tzu | o/ | Sep 25 15:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, o/ | Sep 25 15:23 |
| razielle_tzu | SebthreeBQM10HD: how are you? | Sep 25 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ok you | Sep 25 15:24 |
| razielle_tzu | pretty good | Sep 25 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | was a good day yesterday | Sep 25 15:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | today not really | Sep 25 15:25 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7887581 | Sep 25 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: My Mom Runs Linux! https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/mom-runs-linux/ | Sep 25 15:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freedompenguin.com | My Mom Runs Linux! - Freedom Penguin [ http://ur1.ca/psmtz ] | Sep 25 15:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Mine too!" | Sep 25 15:28 |
| r_schestowitz | Many use Android too | Sep 25 15:28 |
| razielle_tzu | why is today not so great SebthreeBQM10HD? | Sep 25 15:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah I saw that a littel while ago | Sep 25 15:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | mine uses LINUX TO FOR ABOUT TWO years | Sep 25 15:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | didnt want caps | Sep 25 15:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, another boring usual kind of weekend day at home | Sep 25 15:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yesterday went to the LUG in the city and yeah | Sep 25 15:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089290604679169 | Sep 25 15:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IBM Claims “New Linux Based Power System Server Kicks | Sep 25 15:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Butt https://t.co/juJjJTKGgg (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 15:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 15:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM Claims “New Linux Based Power System Server Kicks Butt | Tux Machines | Sep 25 15:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089291594620928 | Sep 25 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Backports and Graphics https://t.co/IECP12J34m | Sep 25 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 15:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Backports and Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 25 15:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089292680855552 | Sep 25 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/IL9EktZbaZ | Sep 25 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 15:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 15:30 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, met some FRench guy nearly same age, who wil help out with the event all day | Sep 25 15:30 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Sep 25 15:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, could tell from emails before meeting, that we would get on and yep | Sep 25 15:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | went to eat at the venue afer woulds to | Sep 25 15:30 |
| razielle_tzu | :) | Sep 25 15:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | was going to do that anyway, but yes it's beter to go with someone. eat out too much on my own at places realy hmm | Sep 25 15:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | mostly | Sep 25 15:31 |
| razielle_tzu | http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-new-advocacy-group-is-lobbying-for-the-right-to-repair-everything?utm_source=mbfb < my partner just found this | Sep 25 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | A New Advocacy Group Is Lobbying for the Right to Repair Everything | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pso1y ] | Sep 25 15:31 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, got the old guy going on at me about contactging the council | Sep 25 15:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, for a focal point | Sep 25 15:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | someone to get it out more | Sep 25 15:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or hopefully | Sep 25 15:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well once got proper flyers! | Sep 25 15:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yeah ok i'll do that as well then, just under four weeks to go | Sep 25 15:32 |
| razielle_tzu | :) | Sep 25 15:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, if it were to get ovver crowdded as in more than 65 of us | Sep 25 15:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that would be something actually | Sep 25 15:33 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 25 15:33 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | indeed | Sep 25 15:33 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and going to put 30 pounds into facebook markettin as wel | Sep 25 15:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since tha's not really geting people so far etc so | Sep 25 15:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, got a Tizne phone ocming or hopefully | Sep 25 15:42 |
| razielle_tzu | good for you, i repaired a mobile over hte weekend and have my smaller phone working again | Sep 25 15:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, andgot a cheap aldi android phone from the other week, that still not had on etc properly | Sep 25 15:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, for a while had to figure out how to get the cae off first to since hmm | Sep 25 15:44 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 15:44 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I intend to show Tizen phone at the event as well :) | Sep 25 15:44 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Sep 25 15:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, you know peoples beloved Samsung, but running something else :d not Android | Sep 25 15:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and that is also Linux based though | Sep 25 15:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Tizen also like the Jollla phone has Android apps compatability | Sep 25 15:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, but can only really buy them from india directly for now | Sep 25 15:45 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 25 15:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ebay as well hmm | Sep 25 15:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | first time I have bought something on Ebay in fact | Sep 25 15:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | myself | Sep 25 15:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and known about it for years, but yeah it's for like peopl selling second hand stuff etc hmm | Sep 25 15:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, if the tracking isn't updated better on ebaby tommorw I am going to be a bit more hmm | Sep 25 15:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | says it's left some where in india though, but | Sep 25 15:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hmm | Sep 25 15:46 |
| MinceR | http://krautchan.net/files/1474808011004.webm | Sep 25 15:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whats | Sep 25 15:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | taht | Sep 25 15:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ? | Sep 25 15:57 |
| MinceR | cleaning snow from a car with music | Sep 25 15:57 |
| razielle_tzu | that hurt my ears | Sep 25 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780127174288367617 | Sep 25 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/aBGi36CtP1 | Sep 25 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 16:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 25 16:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/aBGi36CtP1' | Sep 25 16:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: good one.. | Sep 25 16:03 |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 16:05 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 16:05 | |
| -->blahblah (bcc3aaca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.195.170.202) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 16:08 | |
| <--blahblah has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 25 16:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/780136592988045316 | Sep 25 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/2tRUP1z7xQ | Sep 25 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 16:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 25 16:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780141998904864768 | Sep 25 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Twitter App ‘Corebird’ Now Supports Longer Tweets | Sep 25 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4G4PFOOBAx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 25 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 16:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Linux Twitter App 'Corebird' Now Supports Longer Tweets - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 25 16:28 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 25 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux | Sep 25 16:33 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm also looking into filing a consumer fraud lawsuit in small claims court. Lenovo probably isn't going to bother showing up over $1337.49. | Sep 25 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | Now, after I get a judgment against them, I'll have to get it attached to something, butt I'm sure Lenovo has assets in Illinois. | Sep 25 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | I read about a guy who sued Wells Fargo for fraudulent foreclosure practices, nobody showed up, he won, and they never paid him. He sent the Sheriff to confiscate their office furniture and sell it at a Sheriff's sale, and they paid him the money gathered from that, then they paid him for court costs and getting the Sheriff involved. | Sep 25 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | Gah, more typos. | Sep 25 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hate this keyboard. | Sep 25 16:34 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Viper_Lizzie favourited 'Linux Twitter App ‘Corebird’ Now Supports Longer Tweets...' | Sep 25 16:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780142149543288832 | Sep 25 16:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GTK Radio Player ‘Gradio’ Gets New Beta Release, Gains | Sep 25 16:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Features https://t.co/6ut9Hj7N9K | Sep 25 16:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 25 16:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 16:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | GTK Radio Player 'Gradio' Gets New Beta Release, Gains New Features - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 25 16:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good stuff! | Sep 25 16:38 |
| r_schestowitz | I'll spread the wprd | Sep 25 16:38 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 16:39 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: got several retweets and comments now | Sep 25 16:44 |
| r_schestowitz | so I suppose it might get upvoted too, by some... | Sep 25 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I complained to the Illinois Attorney General's office too. | Sep 25 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | Copy/Paste of FTC complaint. | Sep 25 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | Considering small claims lawsuit against Lenovo in state court. | Sep 25 16:47 |
| r_schestowitz | good | Sep 25 16:48 |
| r_schestowitz | i did too about other things | Sep 25 16:48 |
| r_schestowitz | twice to FTC | Sep 25 16:48 |
| r_schestowitz | I got a reply | Sep 25 16:48 |
| r_schestowitz | but not a detailed letter, more like a template reply | Sep 25 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK [S] 0 points 16 minutes ago | Sep 25 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm also looking into filing a consumer fraud lawsuit in small claims court. Lenovo probably isn't going to bother showing up over $1337.49. | Sep 25 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now, after I get a judgment against them, I'll have to get it attached to something, but I'm sure Lenovo has assets in Illinois. | Sep 25 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | I read about a guy who sued Wells Fargo for fraudulent foreclosure practices, nobody showed up, he won, and they never paid him. He sent the Sheriff to confiscate their office furniture and sell it at a Sheriff's sale, and they paid him the money gathered from that, then they paid him for court costs and getting the Sheriff involved. | Sep 25 16:49 |
| r_schestowitz | lenovo might be camping in reddit by now | Sep 25 16:51 |
| r_schestowitz | if they're business 'smart' | Sep 25 16:51 |
| r_schestowitz | after like 8 separate threads slamming them and urging to boycott a market worth billions per annum | Sep 25 16:51 |
| r_schestowitz | so don't be shocked if they watch and bury you there | Sep 25 16:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I'd at least expect it, you needn't be paranoid to expect it several days after this many threads | Sep 25 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | so, my suggestion | Sep 25 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | you cannot see who's modding but you see who's commenting | Sep 25 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | see their age of the accounts just in case | Sep 25 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | MS got caught astroturfing in reddit already | Sep 25 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | they hired an agency to game the comments for xbox (the example we know about), via an agency that provides such - ahem - 'services' | Sep 25 16:53 |
| r_schestowitz | So check the age of the accounts and recent activities | Sep 25 16:53 |
| r_schestowitz | at least for those who comment, just in case you can identify a pattern. That's how one can spot Shillaries in Twitter, among other Turfers | Sep 25 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Lenovo temporarily banned me from their forum for saying that they were being unethical by modifying my posts. | Sep 25 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | 77 hours (don't ask me why 77) | Sep 25 16:55 |
| r_schestowitz | ta | Sep 25 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, So far the only comment troll has a five year old account. | Sep 25 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | So that wasn't just created by Lenovo. | Sep 25 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780143620401795073 | Sep 25 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Katamari Creator’s ALPHABET Now Available for PC, Mac, | Sep 25 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Linux https://t.co/pEjiPvCEQb (nichegamer.com) | Sep 25 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nichegamer.com | Katamari Creator's ALPHABET Now Available for PC, Mac, and Linux - Niche Gamer | Sep 25 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780144540300828678 | Sep 25 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo | Sep 25 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | blocking Linux and other operating system installations | Sep 25 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1XX6WtkL6f (www.reddit.com) | Sep 25 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux | Sep 25 16:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks, I've quoted you | Sep 25 16:56 |
| r_schestowitz | they will try to suppress you | Sep 25 16:56 |
| r_schestowitz | it's business 'sense' | Sep 25 16:56 |
| r_schestowitz | and we need to use numbers to country this gagging effort | Sep 25 16:57 |
| r_schestowitz | it can streisand (effect) on them | Sep 25 16:57 |
| r_schestowitz | wow, 45% upvote | Sep 25 16:57 |
| r_schestowitz | which means 20 people voter | Sep 25 16:57 |
| r_schestowitz | 11 downvotes in just less than an hour | Sep 25 16:57 |
| r_schestowitz | on a sunday night (CET) | Sep 25 16:57 |
| r_schestowitz | try to find out what's behind it | Sep 25 16:58 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/user/Bogdacutu | Sep 25 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | overview for Bogdacutu | Sep 25 16:58 | |
| r_schestowitz | Lots of activity from him/her on Lenovo threads | Sep 25 16:58 |
| r_schestowitz | but maybe just an interested person, probably benign | Sep 25 16:59 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: you can see what I write about this in #boycottnovell-social | Sep 25 17:00 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 25 17:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: got some upbotes | Sep 25 17:01 |
| r_schestowitz | *upvotes | Sep 25 17:01 |
| r_schestowitz | It's interesting how fast it got buried | Sep 25 17:02 |
| r_schestowitz | In the Digg days the "bury squads" were proven | Sep 25 17:02 |
| r_schestowitz | with evidence | Sep 25 17:02 |
| r_schestowitz | those who suppress stories strategically, not just promote stories | Sep 25 17:02 |
| r_schestowitz | OK, up to +1 | Sep 25 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | Probably operating on Reddit too, but at least they can't actually delete or modify my posts here and then ban me. | Sep 25 17:02 |
| r_schestowitz | 54% posiitive | Sep 25 17:02 |
| r_schestowitz | Let me just keep it open in a tab and keep track of it, looks suspicious too me | Sep 25 17:03 |
| r_schestowitz | far too much voting for a Sunday night on Reddit | Sep 25 17:03 |
| r_schestowitz | it's like the deadest time of the week | Sep 25 17:03 |
| r_schestowitz | worst is around 5am monday | Sep 25 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | 2 points | Sep 25 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_log, It's only 4 PM Monday in Illinois. | Sep 25 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | errr r_schestowitz | Sep 25 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | tab complete fail | Sep 25 17:04 |
| r_schestowitz | up to +2 now | Sep 25 17:04 |
| r_schestowitz | I think some people who read me find it interesting | Sep 25 17:04 |
| r_schestowitz | if (big IF) Lenovo games the number, they'll need more sockpuppets now | Sep 25 17:05 |
| r_schestowitz | One might hypothesise there are two groups there fighting | Sep 25 17:05 |
| r_schestowitz | 1. Lenovo/PR agents | Sep 25 17:05 |
| r_schestowitz | 2. actual people who follow the sub | Sep 25 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I posted the link in ##linux. Nearly 2,300 people in there. | Sep 25 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm betting I get more up than down votes from them | Sep 25 17:06 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, it's common sense | Sep 25 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Let's try spreading the link around where we'll get positive reactions to it. Make the Lenovo trolls sing for their supper. | Sep 25 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | as for garrett, no news there | Sep 25 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | he was always on this side | Sep 25 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | not even on 'the fence' | Sep 25 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | and Microsoft advocacy sites helps promote the myth of Linux - as if it's a company name - is to blame | Sep 25 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | along with some MS apologists | Sep 25 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | you can overrise page cache | Sep 25 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | add something like "?somthing" to the URL to see the very latest score | Sep 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, If you know of anyone who can get this problem patched in Linux so that it kicks the hardware out of RAID and into AHCI as soon as it takes over, please lobby them for me. | Sep 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Garrett at least told us where to start looking. Even the file name. | Sep 25 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | "I see lots off threads from you on Lenovo topics. That's interesting. Who is your employer? ;)" | Sep 25 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | See what he says next :-) | Sep 25 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | if nothing or some excuse, be a tad curious | Sep 25 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | Some MS staff are in Reddit | Sep 25 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | they curse at me there | Sep 25 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | using their pseudonyms | Sep 25 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | whenever techrights is linked to | Sep 25 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | "I don't know whether you have noticed, but logic appears to have little to do with politics: and so far, the fat lady has not sung. " | Sep 25 17:13 |
| r_schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/latest-thoughts-about-brexit-and-upc.html?showComment=1474790065697#c6973291115732176133 | Sep 25 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Latest thoughts about Brexit and the UPC | Sep 25 17:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | LOL, UPC idiots | Sep 25 17:13 |
| r_schestowitz | promoting software patents here... | Sep 25 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | [–]wee0x1b [score hidden] 1 minute ago | Sep 25 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo is creating socckpuppet acccounts | Sep 25 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | No they aren't. People are just downvoting your asshattery in the general course of events. | Sep 25 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | Almost all of your comments are trolling, single line, crude language. | Sep 25 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | You're not exactly a wordsmith, are you? | Sep 25 17:13 |
| r_schestowitz | back to 1 point | Sep 25 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | not that I expect them to give up, either apologists (or people on some payroll) | Sep 25 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | [–]wee0x1b [-2] [score hidden] a minute ago | Sep 25 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm often not verbose or nice to assholes, no. | Sep 25 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'd see a psychiatrist about that. If you can't be nice to yourself, nobody else will. :) | Sep 25 17:17 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft too has vested interest in suppressing discussion about #lenovo #gnu #linux shutout. Microsoft GOT CAUGHT astroturfing in Reddit. | Sep 25 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, What will the impact be on Lenovo sales? | Sep 25 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | Think this will hurt the current quarter eventually? | Sep 25 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | I know a lot of the people who read about this stuff are sysadmins and purchasers for organizations. | Sep 25 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | If they're not going to fix the problem, it would be nice if there were other consequences down the road. | Sep 25 17:19 |
| r_schestowitz | with swings like 3% I suppose it's now around 30 voters | Sep 25 17:19 |
| r_schestowitz | meaning around 15 downvotes | Sep 25 17:19 |
| r_schestowitz | in an hour | Sep 25 17:19 |
| r_schestowitz | too much in my opinion, for this time of the night on a Sunday | Sep 25 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | Reddit's vote count is not that accurate. | Sep 25 17:19 |
| r_schestowitz | [22:18] <DaemonFC> Think this will hurt the current quarter eventually? | Sep 25 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | You hit refresh and the numbers change in weird ways. | Sep 25 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | They can do revenue shaping to conceal the impact | Sep 25 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | the server sales can suffer | Sep 25 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | IBM sold some of its business | Sep 25 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, you mean like Daylight Savings Time. | Sep 25 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | and servers are chosen by geeks, not ordinary people | Sep 25 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Take an hour from one end and stitch it to the other. LOL | Sep 25 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Servers are probably their most profitable sector. | Sep 25 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Smartphones aren't real profitable unless you're Apple. | Sep 25 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | PC margins are thin. | Sep 25 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | 2 points | Sep 25 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | once it's no longer sandboxes they won't be able to game it | Sep 25 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | I saw around 8 threads about Lenovo this today.... in this sub alone | Sep 25 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | they would be foolish not to keep an eye on it at this stage | Sep 25 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | True. | Sep 25 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | Also, r_schestowitz re shaping Lenovo stock has lost 2/3rds of its value since May of last year. | Sep 25 17:22 |
| r_schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/latest-thoughts-about-brexit-and-upc.html?showComment=1474807970198#c7960299312229339512 | Sep 25 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Latest thoughts about Brexit and the UPC [ http://ur1.ca/psojr ] | Sep 25 17:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | " Never mind, old observer, on the problems of other states. These will not be up to the UK. But, the contracting member states on the continent - as far as they ratify - will not wait for the ever braking UK as in the past. If UK does not want to participate on what reason ever they have to leave the UPC agreement forever and quickly , otherwise they will be excluded as soon as possible. Its up to the UK they have do decide on ,in or out', | Sep 25 17:22 |
| r_schestowitz | but not on ,sit and wait' while hindering the others. This will for sure not be accepted, anymore. " | Sep 25 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | Ratings firms have downgraded them to sell. | Sep 25 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | They can't take many more hits. | Sep 25 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually it'll be Junk. | Sep 25 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, People would be insane to buy Lenovo at this point. | Sep 25 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that they get rebates from Microsoft for Signature, and the condition for the rebates was to make it difficult and inconvenient to run other operating systems besides Windows 10. | Sep 25 17:24 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: he's a gun nut https://www.reddit.com/user/wee0x1b | Sep 25 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | overview for wee0x1b | Sep 25 17:25 | |
| DaemonFC | If they weren't getting rebates for Signature, then they wouldn't participate. Huge revenue stream in crapware. A recent article pointed to between 19-33 pieces on a typical new PC, with HP and Lenovo being on the high end. | Sep 25 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | The average crapware bundle can make them up to $100 if the customer buys MS Office, antivirus subscription, and something else. | Sep 25 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | $50 for office, $20 for antivirus. | Sep 25 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's why they do it. | Sep 25 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | I believe the average would be $20-30 per PC infected, so to quote Illinois' former Governor, Rod Blagojevich.... | Sep 25 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | "I got this thing and it's fucking golden and I'm not giving it up for fucking nothing!" | Sep 25 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Microsoft excluded Office trial from the list of crapware that must be removed from a new PC under Signature. I had to remove it. 2 GB freed up on my SSD. More than enough space for LibreOffice. | Sep 25 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | wow, 55% | Sep 25 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | so now it's like 50 votes | Sep 25 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | must be like 25 downvotes | Sep 25 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Reddit should do something to weigh the votes of new acccounts less than established or popular ones. | Sep 25 17:34 |
| r_schestowitz | 瑨灴㩳⼯睴瑩整�潣⽭效牮捩獨湥汃晩⽦瑳瑡獵㜯〸㐱㌸㔶〳㐰〲〶 | Sep 25 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | [–]wee0x1b [-2] [score hidden] 16 minutes ago | Sep 25 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | Fuck off. | Sep 25 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | I love you too. | Sep 25 17:35 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 25 17:35 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/munin/status/780154536199532544 | Sep 25 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@munin: Yyyeah. That's always a great sign. Urgh. https://t.co/q7CmAeEnWV | Sep 25 17:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Lenovo is creating socckpuppet acccounts" https://t.co/1s2L0WV1iq #lenovo #uefi #gnu #linux #intel #microsoft #reddit | Sep 25 17:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Karen_Tullo/status/780160389820669952 | Sep 25 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Karen_Tullo: @schestowitz okay well that's a lot to chew on | Sep 25 17:42 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/780160020507922436 | Sep 25 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #censorship on #reddit ?? No freakin’ way! https://t.co/Cied425ho7 see https://t.co/0xNBelCpXv | Sep 25 17:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Karen_Tullo: #Sweden #Malmo seems like there could be some censorship going on on Reddit, links may be disappearing and comments deleted? | Sep 25 17:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @FalconLeia favourited 'Linux Twitter App ‘Corebird’ Now Supports Longer Tweets...' | Sep 25 17:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | 2015 May 28 | Techrights | Sep 25 17:42 | |
| r_schestowitz | oops, wrong link. http://techrights.org/2015/05/28/reddit-censorship/ | Sep 25 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condé) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | Techrights | Sep 25 17:43 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: XRevan86) | Sep 25 17:43 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 17:46 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 25 17:48 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 17:48 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: I think you got the long end of the stick now | Sep 25 17:50 |
| r_schestowitz | +4 and they lost momentum | Sep 25 17:51 |
| r_schestowitz | late friday mayday calls in Lenovo US HQ ;-p | Sep 25 17:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm sending a lot of traffic there, I hope this matter cannot simply be buried. They hope it will... | Sep 25 17:53 |
| r_schestowitz | try to find evidence of foul play like sockpuppet and I might do an article about it tonight | Sep 25 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 0 points 52 minutes ago* | Sep 25 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | I see lots of threads from you on Lenovo topics. That's interesting. Who is your employer? ;) | Sep 25 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparenteditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 25 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | [–]Bogdacutu [-6] [score hidden] 35 minutes ago | Sep 25 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | take a guess | Sep 25 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | An educated guess....Probably Lenovo. Maybe Microsoft. Since you are attracted to Lenovo topics, I'll go with Lenovo though. | Sep 25 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | How many people are on their crisis response team attached to this case? How many socks are they voting with? | Sep 25 17:54 |
| MinceR | do they even need socks? they've got conde nasty in their pockets | Sep 25 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ? | Sep 25 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | conde nasty? | Sep 25 17:59 |
| r_schestowitz | def. not a sockpuppet https://www.reddit.com/user/AnonTwo | Sep 25 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | overview for AnonTwo | Sep 25 17:59 | |
| MinceR | or whoever owns reddit today | Sep 25 17:59 |
| r_schestowitz | but who's voting, who knows? | Sep 25 17:59 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: code nasty is what RMS told me I can call them | Sep 25 17:59 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 25 17:59 |
| r_schestowitz | after I showed him what they had done to Wired and reddit | Sep 25 17:59 |
| r_schestowitz | RMS used to give articles to Wired | Sep 25 17:59 |
| r_schestowitz | not since then | Sep 25 17:59 |
| MinceR | Con Dinasty | Sep 25 17:59 |
| r_schestowitz | he still gives some to the Guardian | Sep 25 17:59 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: haha, good one also | Sep 25 18:00 |
| MinceR | the grauniad supports crybullies :( | Sep 25 18:00 |
| r_schestowitz | many upvotes still, DaemonFC | Sep 25 18:01 |
| r_schestowitz | but the pace of the burying is fast also | Sep 25 18:01 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: it does, yes... | Sep 25 18:01 |
| MinceR | http://giphy.com/gifs/l0MYSpvx4pnsoMNz2 | Sep 25 18:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Animated GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY | Sep 25 18:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: based on % deviation upon vote, about 60-90 votes cast now | Sep 25 18:07 |
| r_schestowitz | make that 30+ downvotes | Sep 25 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | I can envision, if the theory is right, some "response team" trying to create reddit accounts and being throttled | Sep 25 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | needing to make sockpuppet Email address to create accounts with | Sep 25 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | it's not an easy jobs, but some firms do offer such 'services' | Sep 25 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | or they set up users 'farms' in advance | Sep 25 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | for a payment they use these farms to 'provide' the 'service' | Sep 25 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | [–]AnonTwo [-3] [score hidden] 8 minutes ago | Sep 25 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, at least he's not using his "wordsmithing" to be a condescending prick. | Sep 25 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | I suggest that he spend time with a dictionary. It's really easy to not be so dumb. You just pick up a book, read it, and when you come across a word you don't know, you look it up. It's very easy to expand your vocabulary beyond the word "fuck" if you give it a try. :) | Sep 25 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Sep 25 18:11 |
| r_schestowitz | you might want to point out some stuff | Sep 25 18:12 |
| r_schestowitz | Account with just two comments? About #lenovo ? https://www.reddit.com/user/NightRevan or am I missing something? | Sep 25 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | overview for NightRevan | Sep 25 18:12 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]Valdogone [+1] [score hidden] 2 minutes ago | Sep 25 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks for the alert BaronHK! Actually I never intended to buy a Lenovo, but reading that some of their "PCs" don't allow to install Linux is an additional and definitive showstopper to me. | Sep 25 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply | Sep 25 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | You're welcome! Please do other people a favor if they are asking for a good computer to run Linux on and tell them to avoid Lenovo. Even Lenovo now admits that you are not allowed to install an OS, including a clean copy of Windows. | Sep 25 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What a lovely nick that guy has. | Sep 25 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 17 minutes ago | Sep 25 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | If they don't show up, the plaintiff usually gets a default judgment, but if they were notified to appear and don't, that's really their problem. | Sep 25 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparenteditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 25 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | [–]AnonTwo [-5] [score hidden] 8 minutes ago | Sep 25 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | That still sounds like you're just filing because you think you can get away with it, rather than to try to find justice against them. | Sep 25 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 7 minutes ago | Sep 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | If they show up then I will personally hand them this laptop (after clearing and shredding my personal data) in exchange for the money I paid for it and the costs of taking them to court, which wouldn't have been necessary had they done any number of things to remedy the situation before it escalated to that point. | Sep 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparenteditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | [–]AnonTwo [-5] [score hidden] 3 minutes ago | Sep 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | I think it'd be more likely they'd just countersue you for a frivolous suit. | Sep 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, you've already made them pay their lawyers by that point. | Sep 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | They're free to do whatever they want. Unlike their home in Communist China, people have rights here. | Sep 25 18:19 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 25 18:20 | |
| DaemonFC | from AnonTwo [-5] via /r/linux sent 2 minutes ago | Sep 25 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | show parent | Sep 25 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | ...If they're in communist china, then chances are you won't even be able to make them pay up even if they no show. China likely won't acknowledge your suit. | Sep 25 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | contextfull comments (41)reportblock usermark unreadreply | Sep 25 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | They do business here so the US operations are subject to US federal and state laws wherever there is nexus. | Sep 25 18:22 |
| r_schestowitz | 42 comments. Wow. | Sep 25 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | "Some of these troll accounts are prone to using foul language to try to get a rise out of me" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 25 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ] | Sep 25 18:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | they try to bring you down to their level | Sep 25 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | and then no journalists will take the thread seriiously | Sep 25 18:28 |
| -->Emchan (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 18:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @saeiddrv favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 18:38 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: they're losing it | Sep 25 18:38 |
| r_schestowitz | +8 | Sep 25 18:38 |
| r_schestowitz | I keep linking to it, I reckon it helps get some votes here and there, if the person is genuinely interested | Sep 25 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | I created a new Lenovo Forums account and used tor to get around their ban. | Sep 25 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I just updated the Lenovo posts again. | Sep 25 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | Update: The mods at Lenovo Forums are losing control of the narrative and banning people and editing/deleting more comments. http://imgur.com/a/Q9xIE | Sep 25 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Sep 25 18:57 | |
| -->KyriosBrastianos (~quassel@ipa99.19.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 18:58 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks, highlighted that | Sep 25 19:03 |
| r_schestowitz | it might discourage them from gaming it, IF (IF at all) they did in the first place | Sep 25 19:03 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good news | Sep 25 19:04 |
| r_schestowitz | even Lauri Love mentioned you | Sep 25 19:04 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780179617936211968 | Sep 25 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: (to be clear: hardware vendors have no right whatsoever to stop you doing what you want with the machine you buy fr… https://t.co/HjBMfOdK8C | Sep 25 19:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: (to be clear: hardware vendors have no right whatsoever to stop you doing what you want with the machine you buy fr… https://t.co/HjBMfOdK8C | Sep 25 19:04 | |
| r_schestowitz | I suppose you know who he is, if not look it up | Sep 25 19:04 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/raxthebully/status/780180017925926912 | Sep 25 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@raxthebully: @LauriLoveX @schestowitz @reddit but Lauri they said I'm not allowed to, das illegal 😤😱 | Sep 25 19:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AliasHere/status/780180200306806784 | Sep 25 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AliasHere: cc: @888MooMoo888 https://t.co/916EOMG961 | Sep 25 19:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Under American law, the president can issue a pardon even before its beneficiary has been convicted of a crime." https://t.co/kZ9Dv5PdDn | Sep 25 19:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ThyPirateDave/status/780180548971012096 | Sep 25 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThyPirateDave: @LauriLoveX if carrier locking wasn't bad enough... | Sep 25 19:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780181187952254976 | Sep 25 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: @raxthebully @schestowitz @reddit i don't see lenovo with no army tbh | Sep 25 19:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/raxthebully/status/780182161630437376 | Sep 25 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@raxthebully: @LauriLoveX @schestowitz @reddit heh, i don't even know who uses lenovo these days | Sep 25 19:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780182539306672128 | Sep 25 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: @raxthebully @schestowitz @reddit thinkpads are still pretty great but they'll find a way to fuck them up eventually | Sep 25 19:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780182920409419776 | Sep 25 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: Even in corporate IP-friendly USA, it's only illegal to bypass DRM for purposes of copyright infringement. @LauriLoveX @schestowitz @reddit | Sep 25 19:12 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780182920409419776 | Sep 25 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780182970745446400 | Sep 25 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: @jhamby @schestowitz @reddit inconvenience isn't a great selling point traditionally but tis a matter of market demographic calculus i guess | Sep 25 19:12 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780183416272588800 | Sep 25 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@LauriLoveX @schestowitz You're probably thinking of DRM used in the other direction to prevent people from running unlicensed Windows/Mac. | Sep 25 19:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: +9 now | Sep 25 19:15 |
| r_schestowitz | it's getting hot on twitter right now, some high-profile people mention the thread | Sep 25 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/td-p/3339206/highlight/false/page/30 | Sep 25 19:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID mod... - Page 30 - Lenovo Community | Sep 25 19:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | Now it's story number 3 (from the top) in https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780183416272588800 | Sep 25 19:16 |
| r_schestowitz | adorning 50+ comments | Sep 25 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're getting really touchy. I just posted a couple more things. They don't know it's me. | Sep 25 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | If they figure it out I'll request a new tor identity and make a new account. | Sep 25 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | They think they're so smart... | Sep 25 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Lots of people still viewing the Lenovo Forum topic. | Sep 25 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | Mods are monitoring it closely and keep screaming about a code of conduct. | Sep 25 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Making up rules to try to keep honest comments to a minimum. | Sep 25 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Some of those recent posts of mine on there have been seen over 1,000 times. | Sep 25 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Getting really embarrassing for Lenovo I'm sure. All those customers finding out what's going on. | Sep 25 19:20 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780183979068710912 | Sep 25 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: @jhamby @schestowitz well, issue here is that lenovo crippled their bios purportedly to please MS but i think we should shoot them all tbh.. | Sep 25 19:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780184292399820800 | Sep 25 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: "You" referring to @schestowitz, if that wasn't clear. I may be wrong, but I don't know of any anti-reverse-engineering laws against PCs. 🤔 | Sep 25 19:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/raxthebully/status/780184415884316673 | Sep 25 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@raxthebully: @LauriLoveX @schestowitz @reddit yeah the only decent thing, once that's dead then bye lenovo | Sep 25 19:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/780184791794618368 | Sep 25 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Much the same with ^relationships^. https://t.co/lP6ambrRxw | Sep 25 19:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "You can't just shut the lid or you come back and your battery is drained. Have to shut it down. Poor engineering" https://t.co/xCMhBrPgZF | Sep 25 19:23 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: +14 now | Sep 25 19:23 |
| r_schestowitz | they've lost the battle to bury | Sep 25 19:23 |
| r_schestowitz | a lot of people certainly would see it from Twitter by now | Sep 25 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I plan to do something about this every day if I can until they release a patch. | Sep 25 19:24 |
| razielle_tzu | i wonder if they'll just double down on the BS instead of that though | Sep 25 19:25 |
| r_schestowitz | the patch wouldn't salvage them anymore | Sep 25 19:28 |
| r_schestowitz | people don't trust them anymore | Sep 25 19:29 |
| r_schestowitz | if anything, a patch will make people speak about this scandal again | Sep 25 19:29 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 25 19:29 |
| r_schestowitz | they'd rather see people forgetting and moving on | Sep 25 19:29 |
| r_schestowitz | they're being battered a bit in Twitter and JoinDiaspora right now | Sep 25 19:29 |
| r_schestowitz | lots of retweets and stuff | Sep 25 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Well, at this point it's not so much about the patch as getting the word out that Lenovo is no good and they're using dirty tricks again. | Sep 25 19:30 |
| r_schestowitz | make them synonymous with "not good for Linux" | Sep 25 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Preinstalled malware, BIOS that reinstalls crapware, blocking Linux, suppressing users who report problems with their computeers... | Sep 25 19:30 |
| r_schestowitz | other OEMs will learn their lesson and ensure decent BSD/Linux support | Sep 25 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/m-p/3438553#M8457 | Sep 25 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Re: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID... - Page 30 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/psp1q ] | Sep 25 19:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | ouch | Sep 25 19:38 |
| r_schestowitz | lots of money in datacentres | Sep 25 19:38 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/suscepimus/status/780190921715351552 | Sep 25 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suscepimus: @schestowitz "redditor for 4 months" + 437 comment karma = lots of deleted comments somewhere else. Maybe an alt, but not a sockpuppet. | Sep 25 19:44 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: +21 you're well in the green now | Sep 25 19:45 |
| r_schestowitz | when I posted linked in twitter it was in the red, -1 | Sep 25 19:45 |
| r_schestowitz | I think that more people who see it other than the Lenovo apologists (maybe reps) would decide it's worth highlighting | Sep 25 19:45 |
| r_schestowitz | should have 100+ in the morning, maybe more | Sep 25 19:45 |
| r_schestowitz | I hope it's another Superfish | Sep 25 19:46 |
| r_schestowitz | where at the end they give up lying | Sep 25 19:46 |
| r_schestowitz | and they end up not only looking evil but also extremely dishonest, like Chine's government | Sep 25 19:46 |
| r_schestowitz | that's when it's good to start covering the saga | Sep 25 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | from mnzl [-1] via /r/linux sent 18 minutes ago | Sep 25 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK do you understand why the moderator marked your initial tirade against Lenovo as misleading? The fact that Linux doesn't have a kernel module for your laptop's SATA controller and that Lenovo's bios doesn't have an AHCI setting is not an anti-Linux conspiracy. Please stop. | Sep 25 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | contextfull comments (54)reportblock usermark unreadreply | Sep 25 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | They marked it misleading because as soon as the Official Lie from Lenovo was out, they fell for it. Hook, line, and sinker. And that assumes that the moderator had honorable intentions and was simply duped by the PR crap, which was written by someone who lacks a modicum of technical knowledge. | Sep 25 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, It's like driving a nail into the wall. | Sep 25 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | You just keep hitting the SOB until it's in. | Sep 25 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Back down to +16. | Sep 25 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | It'll probably fluctuate wildly for a while. | Sep 25 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | Until Lenovo gives up trying to game the system | Sep 25 19:54 |
| -->pidgin_log (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 20:01 | |
| <--KyriosBrastianos has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 20:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes | Sep 25 20:02 |
| r_schestowitz | I was thinking the same, but... | Sep 25 20:02 |
| r_schestowitz | we don't know if that's true | Sep 25 20:02 |
| r_schestowitz | and it could also be Microsoft | Sep 25 20:02 |
| r_schestowitz | or some Wintel interests | Sep 25 20:02 |
| r_schestowitz | or some of their fans, or useful idiots | Sep 25 20:03 |
| r_schestowitz | who take the bait or trust Mjg SJW | Sep 25 20:03 |
| r_schestowitz | I wonder how much they spent on PR/damage control so far | Sep 25 20:04 |
| r_schestowitz | other than their full time staff doing meetings on how to tackle this | Sep 25 20:04 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe they got some "outside help' | Sep 25 20:04 |
| r_schestowitz | like the EPO does | Sep 25 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | Oh yeah, like Edelman or something. | Sep 25 20:06 |
| r_schestowitz | they're one among many | Sep 25 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | EPO hired FTI Consulting | Sep 25 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | US-based firm | Sep 25 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | EPO paid them over a million Euros in just one year | Sep 25 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | they also did fracking lobbying in the UK (FTI) | Sep 25 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | nasty firm | Sep 25 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | and I have a rough idea of how they operate it | Sep 25 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | MS got caught turfing in Reddit | Sep 25 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | not Lenovo | Sep 25 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfing | Sep 25 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/3awqc ] | Sep 25 20:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ | Sep 25 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/e99i2 ] | Sep 25 20:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | so it could, in theory, be Microsoft assigning people to the 'taskforce' du jour | Sep 25 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I'm posting this on news comments. | Sep 25 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | There are a few updates. A hardware hack. A possible Linux patch to kick the system into AHCI mode despite the BIOS. A letter of complaint to the FTC and Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan. | Sep 25 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/542c8t/hardware_hack_enables_linux_support_on_lenovo/ | Sep 25 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 25 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Hardware hack enables Linux support on Lenovo Yoga 900 ISK2, undermining Lenovo's statement : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ps8aq ] | Sep 25 20:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ] | Sep 25 20:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780198480790687744 | Sep 25 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@LauriLoveX @schestowitz Yeah, I was just agreeing with what you said. It shows they don't want my business, anyway. | Sep 25 20:18 | |
| r_schestowitz | +@4 | Sep 25 20:24 |
| r_schestowitz | +24 | Sep 25 20:24 |
| r_schestowitz | it'll reach hundreds tomorrow | Sep 25 20:25 |
| r_schestowitz | not sure if the media can go with it, unless you get a response from the FTC and then update the post | Sep 25 20:25 |
| r_schestowitz | which won't happen any sooner than Monday morning (at best) | Sep 25 20:25 |
| r_schestowitz | reddit posts have a 24-hour shelf life | Sep 25 20:25 |
| MinceR | which post are you tracking? | Sep 25 20:26 |
| r_schestowitz | 27... | Sep 25 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | third from top, MinceR https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/ | Sep 25 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux, GNU/Linux, free software... | Sep 25 20:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | keeping lenovo under fire before the real story is revealed | Sep 25 20:32 |
| r_schestowitz | though we might never know what exactly they agreed on with Microsoft | Sep 25 20:32 |
| r_schestowitz | unless someone leaks it | Sep 25 20:32 |
| r_schestowitz | it's hard to then deny what was said | Sep 25 20:32 |
| r_schestowitz | when a Lenovo rep said Microsoft demands this | Sep 25 20:33 |
| r_schestowitz | later they said the rep was wrong | Sep 25 20:33 |
| r_schestowitz | but I bet s/he was right | Sep 25 20:33 |
| r_schestowitz | and they just threw the rep down the river for saying the truth instead of lying... Like a Booss | Sep 25 20:33 |
| MinceR | wow, reddit is full of retards | Sep 25 20:36 |
| MinceR | like slashdot was when i left it | Sep 25 20:36 |
| MinceR | and like digg was when i looked at it | Sep 25 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I copied and pasted that comment to as many news articles as I could log into. | Sep 25 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | Probably 15 or so. | Sep 25 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | Leading back to the article about the FTC/Illinois Attorney General | Sep 25 20:39 |
| MinceR | and lenovo just keeps on digging that hole | Sep 25 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | I got an autoreply from the AG's office. | Sep 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Dear Consumer, | Sep 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you for contacting the Office of the Attorney General online regarding your consumer complaint. We have received your online complaint (and, if applicable, attachments of supporting documents) and will be reviewing it over the next few weeks to determine what assistance we may provide. Once we have reviewed the complaint and made a determination, we will send you written notification of our decision. If your complaint is retained | Sep 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | by this office, a staff person may forward your complaint and supporting documents to the business involved requesting a response. Please know that your concerns are important to us. We thank you in advance for your patience. | Sep 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Very truly yours, | Sep 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Lisa Madigan | Sep 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois Attorney General | Sep 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, She might be interested in this. | Sep 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | She's gone after Facebook and Jimmy Johns. | Sep 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | She has a thing about enforcing the law against big companies. | Sep 25 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | The case against Facebook is regarding photo tagging, which violates the Illinois Biometric Security Privacy Act. | Sep 25 20:41 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe update when you have an actual person replying, not a bot | Sep 25 20:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 25 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I'm not going to pollute the reddit with an autoreply. | Sep 25 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | But I did post another screenshot of the Lenovo forums. | Sep 25 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | That post has been seen about 400 times now. | Sep 25 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Hopefully Illinois has a law against what Lenovo is doing. | Sep 25 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | They can get slapped with fines from the government for it. | Sep 25 20:43 |
| r_schestowitz | "65% upvoted" | Sep 25 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois loves cases where they can easily fine the crap out of something. | Sep 25 20:43 |
| r_schestowitz | Watch it changing over time | Sep 25 20:43 |
| r_schestowitz | if it climbs up to 80%, then it can provide reasonable evidence of foul play | Sep 25 20:44 |
| r_schestowitz | it was at 40 something percent earlier on | Sep 25 20:44 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: except when it comes to water :-p | Sep 25 20:44 |
| r_schestowitz | as in flint | Sep 25 20:44 |
| r_schestowitz | oh, wait | Sep 25 20:45 |
| r_schestowitz | michigan | Sep 25 20:45 |
| r_schestowitz | I got them mixed up | Sep 25 20:45 |
| r_schestowitz | michigan changed the rule about a week ago to let the crooks get away with what they had done in flint | Sep 25 20:45 |
| MinceR | it's sad when the upholding of law is only important as far as fines go | Sep 25 20:45 |
| r_schestowitz | esp. when the fines are slush funds to them | Sep 25 20:46 |
| r_schestowitz | hey, let'e have debt prisons back :-p | Sep 25 20:46 |
| r_schestowitz | with private workforce inside | Sep 25 20:46 |
| r_schestowitz | and inmate labour for private corporations | Sep 25 20:46 |
| r_schestowitz | 29+ | Sep 25 20:53 |
| r_schestowitz | it'll cruise past 100 monday morning | Sep 25 20:53 |
| r_schestowitz | but I don't know how to force disclosure of the back room deal with Microsoft for "Signature Edition" | Sep 25 20:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Does the OEM contrast for this exist in some site; is it leakable | Sep 25 20:54 |
| r_schestowitz | not user-OEM-MS EULA | Sep 25 20:54 |
| r_schestowitz | but the OEM deal, we have some of the old ones with Compaq and Dell in the techrights wiki, thanks to comes vs Microsoft | Sep 25 20:55 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 21:01 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Been trying to edit Lenovo's wikipedia. People keep removing it. | Sep 25 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Pre-loading bloatware with security issues[edit] | Sep 25 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | As of June 2016, a Duo Labs report stated that Lenovo was still installing bloatware, some of which leads to security vulnerabilities as soon as the user turns on their new PC.[75][76] | Sep 25 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Dolby Audio X2 Engine[edit] | Sep 25 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has preloaded "Dolby Audio X2 Engine" onto certain laptops, which creates a local privilege escalation vulnerability in Windows due to insecure and unnecessary file permissions. Lenovo has rated the severity of this vulnerability "High".[77] | Sep 25 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Hit them from every angle possible. | Sep 25 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Let Wikipedia readers see what kind of crap they do. | Sep 25 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | I found another one. | Sep 25 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | I changed it a little. | Sep 25 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Accelerator[edit] | Sep 25 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | As of June 2016, a Duo Labs report stated that Lenovo was still installing bloatware, some of which leads to security vulnerabilities as soon as the user turns on their new PC.[75][76] Lenovo advised users to remove the offending app, "Lenovo Accelerator".[77] | Sep 25 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Dolby Audio X2 Engine[edit] | Sep 25 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has preloaded "Dolby Audio X2 Engine" onto certain laptops, which creates a local privilege escalation vulnerability in Windows due to insecure and unnecessary file permissions. Lenovo has rated the severity of this vulnerability "High".[78] | Sep 25 21:08 |
| <--slbtc has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 25 21:10 | |
| DaemonFC | According to Lenovo, the app, designed to "speed up the loading" of Lenovo application, created a man-in-the-middle security vulnerability. | Sep 25 21:12 |
| r_schestowitz | 32+, will have reached 100 by morning | Sep 25 21:12 |
| r_schestowitz | gn | Sep 25 21:12 |
| -->KyriosBrastianos (~quassel@ipa99.19.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 21:33 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]redsteakraw [score hidden] 34 minutes ago | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | FTC really? Why not simply not buy products from Lenovo and tell / convince individuals and organizations to do the same. For the people that have purchased them encourage exploits and make them public to help further ring them through the mud. Crying to the government is pathetic, take real action in your own hands instead of cowardly trying to hide behind the government. Lenovo makes more money on huge contracts for deployment in | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | businesses and institutions so stressing their problems and exploits as well as sordid history to the people in charge of making orders would go much further to hurt them. | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | Reminding people of superfish and their bundled malware will also help your cause. Gamergate, like them or hate them did do a number on Gawker by hitting their revenue streams and exploiting their screw-ups. While it didn't kill them the Hulkamania himself did the final blow. It was later revealed Gamergate's tactics did contribute to their downfall. Do not forgive and do not forget their slights, grow a pair and hit them where it hurts, | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | their wallets. | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 21 minutes ago | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | The reason that Gawker went down was because billionaire Donald Trump lackey Peter Thiel dumped an unlimited amount of money into Hulk Hogan's lawsuit to destroy them. It was a 1%er war on the press, and it worked. They would have survived GamerGate, which was absolute nonsense. | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparenteditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]redsteakraw [score hidden] 14 minutes ago | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | GamerGate weakened them and pinched their revenue streams, the Hulk Hogan - Peter Thiel tag team finished the company. Peter Thiel was pissed that Gawker outed him as being gay. Payback is a bitch. | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 6 minutes ago* | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm gay. When I lived in Indiana, I was fired from one job because of that, and they didn't break any state laws at all. Here in Illinois it's illegal. I survived it. I'm not too worried about what anyone thinks. | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | Peter Thiel went in front of the RNC and shouted "I'm proud to be gay!". I would have liked to have seen the looks on the faces of the Republican Party insiders/activists present for that one. :) | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | Not exactly an open-minded group of people, but social conservatism is a disease. | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | Being a billionaire gives you a lot of privileges. If someone hates Thiel for being gay, he doesn't have to worry about not getting a paycheck next week. Takes no courage for him to say anything. | Sep 25 21:49 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 25 21:55 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 21:55 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I noticeed that my tor ip address is in the UK. | Sep 25 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I can watch iplayer.. | Sep 25 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | [–]iindigo [+1] [score hidden] 3 minutes ago | Sep 25 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say it's worth pointing out that Apple doesn't block installation of third-party operating systems on their computers. Even the iPad-like more-appliance-than-PC 12" MacBook booted Windows from day 1, and as far as I can tell they run Linux fine too – as they should. | Sep 25 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | If the most experience-controlling PC company in existence allows freedom of OS, what does that say of Lenovo? | Sep 25 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I never imagined that there could be a nastier and more controlling computer hardware company than Apple until I got a Lenovo laptop. | Sep 25 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I got it because it was the cheapest thing at Best Buy with this class of hardware, and Lenovo managed to ruin the whole thing with a couple of lines of BIOS code. | Sep 25 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be rebooting the demo model with a Linux USB stick and making sure the laptop can see the storage next time, before I leave the store with one. | Sep 25 22:04 |
| MinceR | pity crApple's hardware sucks | Sep 25 22:06 |
| MinceR | the ordinary MacBook has a weak GPU, the MacBook Air 11" has a shitty display resolution, the others are heavy as fuck | Sep 25 22:07 |
| MinceR | and they're afraid of disclosing the exact CPU models | Sep 25 22:07 |
| MinceR | then there's the stupid gimmicks making their hw unreliable or even dangerous | Sep 25 22:09 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/a/l9zqY | Sep 25 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Sep 25 22:15 | |
| MinceR | crApple is all hype and no substsnce | Sep 25 22:15 |
| MinceR | s/tsn/tan/ | Sep 25 22:15 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Bhmk2 | Sep 25 22:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So, what's the problem? - Album on Imgur | Sep 25 22:20 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 25 22:22 | |
| <--Tervy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | Sep 25 22:30 | |
| -->Tervy (Tervy@laamaperhe.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 22:31 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 22:38 | |
| -->wgas (~quassel@unaffiliated/wgas) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 22:40 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/54f89p/tpbclean_is_the_pirate_bay_but_without_the_porn/ | Sep 25 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | TPBClean is The Pirate Bay but without the porn. : Piracy | Sep 25 22:47 | |
| DaemonFC | –]BaronHK 5 points 4 hours ago | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | There might as well be no porn on TPB. According to news articles I've read, porn and Game of Thrones are the two things most likely to result in DMCA notices to your ISP. HBO just wants to say "We know what you did. Get an HBO subscription!", but the porn companies will actually demand settlement money and blackmail you with threats of including the file names in the (public) court filings if you don't pay up and they sue you. Some | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | speculate that the most litigious porn trolls are posting and seeding their own stuff as bait. | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveeditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | [–]Squeezymypenisy [+1] 2 points 45 minutes ago | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | porn companies | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Must be because they aren't close to the profits they used to have. | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point a minute ago | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Probably. The price of a porn DVD/Blu Ray is upwards of $30 at Priscilla's in Fort Wayne. Pfft! And There's a really small selection of gay porn, and most of it is from 5-10 years ago and none of it will ever be on Blu Ray. | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know what the going price is in Chicago. Haven't been to any shops here. Amazon has a wider selection at better prices. Plus it drives religious employees nuts that they have to pick and pack sex toys and lubes and videos. I remember one of them quit and then tried to sue Amazon for having her pick merchandise in that department. I thought it was hysterical. | Sep 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | from torontohatesfacts [-3] via /r/linux sent 5 minutes ago | Sep 25 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | show parent | Sep 25 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Yet you still chose to buy the MICROSOFT SIGNATURE SERIES MODEL. As in MICROSOFT had Lenovo build it to specifications that MICROSOFT designed. Had you bought a Lenovo only product, one that wasn't built for Microsoft certification specifically you would have a claim. | Sep 25 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | contextfull comments (85)reportblock usermark unreadreply | Sep 25 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | So what? Linux works on the Microsoft Surface (at least for now it does). | Sep 25 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Why would I suspect that they'd start doing nasty things on another company's computers. Now that I think about it, it makes sense. Trial balloon. Test it out on Lenovo and see if it blows up on them. | Sep 25 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Probably helps that Lenovo stock has lost 2/3rds of its value in the last year. People don't trust them because of prior bad acts. Microsoft can control them by dangling money like they did in the last days of NOKIA. | Sep 25 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Like one of those predatory wasps that takes over an ant and buries their eggs in it. | Sep 25 22:56 |
| MinceR | finally! it was so difficult to resist searching for porn on TPB | Sep 25 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | [–]torontohatesfacts [-4] [score hidden] 5 minutes ago | Sep 25 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you for displaying clearly that you are not of a reasonable mindset. You have a preset idea, do not at all attempt to research it out of interest in accuracy and are clearly not in a position to make claims to the FTC or courts on such matters. | Sep 25 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Test it out on Lenovo? How about you look through the Microsoft Store, the following companies all sell SIGNATURE EDITION MICROSOFT CERTIFIED LAPTOPS. | Sep 25 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | ASUS Acer Alienware Dell HP Huawei Lenovo MSI Microsoft Razer Toshiba VAIO | Sep 25 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 25 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo crashed in the last year and a half. If you invested a dollar in Lenovo, you'd have like 35 cents today. Test it out on a company with a reputation for doing despicable things like Superfish and Lenovo Service Engine (crapware reinstalling BIOS). | Sep 25 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing that they had done so far would affect Linux users though. | Sep 25 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe the malicious EXE in the LSE BIOS would have done something if you had wine installed and set up to handle Windows programs. I don't know. There was a study a while back to see if malware from Windows was wine compatible. Most of it either didn't do anything or just corrupted your wine profile. | Sep 25 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Up until now, when Lenovo was caught and ran out of bs that they could spew, they corrected the problem, but I doubt they're ever going to fix this. | Sep 25 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | [–]Sl31gh3r86 [S] 2 points 1 day ago | Sep 25 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | so what you're saying is university wont care unless harassed by big companies like paramount and HBO | Sep 25 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 25 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | It depends on the university. Several years ago, the MPAA wrote a "University Toolkit" that installed on the network and it basically narced out all of the students that were pirating things. Matthew Garrett at Canonical (at the time) found out that they were using a copy of Xubuntu Linux in the toolkit, in violation of the copyright (GNU General Public License) and sent the MPAA a DMCA take down notice. | Sep 25 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | Later it was revealed that universities that were stupid enough to install it essentially created a backdoor for the MPAA to cart off a lot of their other files and logs. | Sep 25 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | Just do what Terry said and get a paid VPN like Private Internet Access. Strong encryption. Doesn't keep logs. Tunnel through that while on the university's network. Hell, on your own network. Stay out of trouble with your ISP too. | Sep 25 23:43 |
| <--MarkBilk_ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 25 23:49 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 23:53 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Lenovo stock is down. | Sep 25 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | Probably for other reasons. Who knows? | Sep 25 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect the thing that's been holding them up is central bank stimulus, cost cutting, etc. | Sep 25 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | They admit that revenue and sales are down and cost cutting was the only thing that made net profits go up last quarter. | Sep 25 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | When companies make announcements like that, it means that they are in trouble. | Sep 25 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, what happens when you squeeze out all of the "efficiency". Laying people off, shutting down less profitable divisions, etc? | Sep 25 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | If your sales don't pick up you have one good quarter and then you're cooked. | Sep 25 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | I've been working on Wikipedia edits to Lenovo articles. | Sep 25 23:58 |
| <--MarkBilk has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 25 23:58 | |
| DaemonFC | I slipped in the blurb about recent Yogas not working with Linux and Lenovo admitting that it's incompatible. | Sep 25 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | Then I went to their main page and added some more blurbs about bloatware preinstalls that caused security issues on Windows. | Sep 25 23:58 |
| cubexyz | 4 hours of 720P video = 6 gigabytes | Sep 26 00:11 |
| cubexyz | time to convert 1280x720 video to 640x360 on the P4? 48 hours | Sep 26 00:12 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cujounited followed @tuxmachines | Sep 26 00:13 | |
| cubexyz | it only took a day to compile KDE 3.4.2 on the dual 550 mhz P3 | Sep 26 00:13 |
| cubexyz | predicted size of downsized video: 1.5 gigs | Sep 26 00:14 |
| cubexyz | conclusions: forget about P4 for 720P video | Sep 26 00:14 |
| cubexyz | video conversions are mostly CPU bound | Sep 26 00:16 |
| cubexyz | looks like this computer is from the 2002 era | Sep 26 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/d829c91 | Sep 26 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | BaronHK comments on Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. | Sep 26 00:24 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 2 minutes ago | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | This is what I have so far from a Linux kernel developer that I asked about the Lenovo Yoga issue (Matthew Garrett): | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | If you could install a Linux distribution in the first place then GRUB would get as far as reading the kernel off of the disk because GRUB is using the uEFI drivers at that point. Once it hands off to Linux, then Linux could be patched to hurry up and reset the controller and bring it back up in AHCI mode (which is what Lenovo removed from the BIOS) before it starts enumerating PCI devices (the SSD is on a PCI-E bus). | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | He told me you want to patch the file arch/x86/boot/compressed/eboot.c to make sure it's done before the kernel goes looking for devices. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | So it's theoretically possible. He said he would go see if it is documented and then maybe throwing together a quick patch if it is. He also said he's probably not going to try to push for it to be merged, so that will have to be done by someone else taking the patch and lobbying one of the kernel subsystem maintainers. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | So we have a lot of ifs, buts, and mights here: | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | If it's possible. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | He might write a patch. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | But he won't lobby to get it upstreamed. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | So it would be up to the subsystem maintainer if we get past all of that, and I'm not his favorite person in the world, so he might not even do it. I don't know. He did the last time I flushed a company out for writing a stupid BIOS that did something completely undocumented. It turned out that Windows had a hardware quirk for that behavior and so he copied what Windows was doing to work around the bug. The company in question released a | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | proper patch for their board, but they made similar boards for a bunch of other OEMs, so the quirk would help anyone stuck with those. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, I was using a G33 board from Foxconn with a Core 2 Duo. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | It turns out that when you're dealing with firmware, there are a lot of violations of the spec, and if anything it is only getting worse with uEFI, which is a 7,000 page self-contradictory specification that is full of Microsoft-isms. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | So all of this because Lenovo wrote extra code to stop you from using AHCI in the uEFI firmware. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| cubexyz | writing BIOS is pretty hard, not many can do it | Sep 26 00:29 |
| cubexyz | I hear google has a 30 person team to help with coreboot | Sep 26 00:30 |
| cubexyz | I suspect that no single person understands all of modern BIOS, even for a specific machine | Sep 26 00:30 |
| -->Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 00:30 | |
| cubexyz | I have a decent understanding of Gigabyte GA-BXC but I'm still learning about it | Sep 26 00:31 |
| cubexyz | power management, superio, PCI bus, displaying raster graphics, POST, booting... | Sep 26 00:33 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the CPU and DRAM controller inititialization | Sep 26 00:35 |
| cubexyz | it's just about 21st century alchemy | Sep 26 00:35 |
| cubexyz | the keyboard stuff has to be initialized too | Sep 26 00:37 |
| cubexyz | I don't even have a solution for modern ATX motherboard really | Sep 26 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | (Superfish again) Yeah, it took that long for Lenovo release a program to delete a few files, yank out some registry keys, and what else, exactly? | Sep 26 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | "In the meantime, please enjoy the bullshit about how this isn't a security hazard even though malware is being signed with the superfish key!" | Sep 26 00:42 |
| cubexyz | minifree is selling the X200 starting at £300 (ironically a Lenovo product) | Sep 26 00:45 |
| cubexyz | with libreboot | Sep 26 00:45 |
| cubexyz | https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/ | Sep 26 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/ ) | Sep 26 00:47 | |
| cubexyz | it's pretty good, you get the docking station with it | Sep 26 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, 94 points (71% upvoted) | Sep 26 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like the attempted sandbogging did not succeed. | Sep 26 00:51 |
| cubexyz | once one installs libreboot on the X200 you can use additional wifi cards | Sep 26 01:00 |
| cubexyz | for the brave: | Sep 26 01:00 |
| cubexyz | https://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html | Sep 26 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html ) | Sep 26 01:00 | |
| <--wgas has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | Sep 26 01:10 | |
| -->wgas (~quassel@unaffiliated/wgas) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 01:12 | |
| <--wgas has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 26 01:13 | |
| -->Glyphie_ (sid163528@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-symzeluuvyznjdoc) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 01:14 | |
| -->razielle_tzu_ (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 01:15 | |
| DaemonFC | 100 points (72% upvoted) | Sep 26 01:19 |
| -->cmdshftn_ (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 01:20 | |
| -->balrog_ (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 01:20 | |
| <--razielle_tzu has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 01:20 | |
| <--Glyphie has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 01:21 | |
| <--balrog has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 01:21 | |
| <--XFaCE has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 01:21 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 01:21 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 01:21 | |
| -->XFaCE (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 01:21 | |
| ---balrog_ is now known as balrog | Sep 26 01:22 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 01:28 | |
| DaemonFC | 106 points (72% upvoted) | Sep 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | I think we've survived the Lenovo vote bombing. | Sep 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | 240 votes, including Lenovo's Chicago-style voting. (The socks have as much right to vote as anyone else in this cemetery.) | Sep 26 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why firefoxx misrepresents my screen size. | Sep 26 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | 1280 x 720? This is a QHD display. | Sep 26 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281706553024512 | Sep 26 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to | Sep 26 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Protect Your PC from Viruses https://t.co/WxnCYB2wVO | Sep 26 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 01:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to Protect Your PC from Viruses | Tux Machines | Sep 26 01:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281707630964736 | Sep 26 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One | Sep 26 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Year of Development https://t.co/6UFzk7NJWi | Sep 26 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 01:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One Year of Development | Tux Machines | Sep 26 01:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Update: Lenovo just updated the BIOS for the Yoga 710, another system that doesn't allow Linux installs. Wanna know what they changed? Update to TPM (secret encryption module used for Digital Restrictions Management) and an update to the Intel Management Engine, which is essentially a backdoor rootkit built into all recent Intel processors (but AMD has their version too, so what do you do?). No Linux support. Priorities... | Sep 26 01:51 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo isn't a great design in general... even the X200 requires a considerable effort to replace the bios with libreboot | Sep 26 01:56 |
| cubexyz | I'll probably get another HP Chromebook 14 | Sep 26 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/m-p/3438728#M8460 | Sep 26 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Re: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID... - Page 30 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/psqo5 ] | Sep 26 02:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: 100+ | Sep 26 02:18 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: "74% upvoted" | Sep 26 02:28 |
| r_schestowitz | It was 40 something percent when I linked to it | Sep 26 02:28 |
| r_schestowitz | so obviously people on th e sub don't dislike it | Sep 26 02:28 |
| r_schestowitz | after the first 2 hours it's like 85% upvoted, see? | Sep 26 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Sep 26 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | troll voters went away I guess | Sep 26 02:30 |
| r_schestowitz | thanks for posting, glad to play along | Sep 26 02:32 |
| r_schestowitz | quite a success story for the community here, all in all | Sep 26 02:32 |
| r_schestowitz | also brought some new people to the channel | Sep 26 02:32 |
| r_schestowitz | most importantly, it send a warning sign to all OEMs that do a disservice to Linux and made "Microsoft loves Linux" look like a farce | Sep 26 02:33 |
| r_schestowitz | *sent | Sep 26 02:33 |
| r_schestowitz | I told my wife last week, this is an important topic to push on, as it would help determine how OEMs treat support for Linux, if we can show SEVERE consequences for Lenovo | Sep 26 02:34 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7885147 | Sep 26 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deavmi@pod.disroot.org reshared: #vista10 should have #microsoft sued a lot more often http://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-might-soon-track-absolutely-everything-you-do-for-your-own-good-508602.shtml see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Sep 26 02:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Nice mates. I want to get my family on GNU/Linux soon. :)" | Sep 26 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Windows 10 Might Soon Track Absolutely Everything You Do for Your Own Good | Sep 26 02:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights | Sep 26 02:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Same here: no win support due to missing knowledge. ;) | Sep 26 02:35 |
| r_schestowitz | ":) Tomet" | Sep 26 02:35 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7886255 | Sep 26 03:14 |
| r_schestowitz | "I used to like Lenovo. Nice hardware, got on rather well with their tech support back when I did hardware repair. Oh well; System 76 laptops for me from now on." | Sep 26 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anonymiss@despora.de reshared: #lenovo #deletionism follows #revisionism with #microsoft after #intel #uefi helped block #linux & #unix https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54cbss/lenovo_deleted_a_link_to_a_petition_to_the/ | Sep 26 03:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reddit.com | Lenovo deleted a link to a petition to the company to enable Linux support in their BIOS on the Yoga laptops. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psl2h ] | Sep 26 03:14 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7887821 | Sep 26 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | "Maybe with their Linux sub-system. Idk, if they love it, they probablu do as it’s easier to maintain than Windows." | Sep 26 03:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Is it some more of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, or does Microsoft really love Linux." https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/546g8p/does_microsoft_really_love_linux/ #microsoft still SUES Linux. | Sep 26 03:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reddit.com | Does Microsoft Really Love Linux? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psqy3 ] | Sep 26 03:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | NSA, Troll department | Sep 26 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Lol | Sep 26 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | quote from https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7889926 | Sep 26 03:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I see lots of threads from you on Lenovo topics. That's interesting. Who is your employer? ;)" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ #lenovo #gnu #linux | Sep 26 03:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ] | Sep 26 03:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: watch which comments get promoted (to the top) | Sep 26 03:33 |
| r_schestowitz | the whole dynamic of the thread changed | Sep 26 03:33 |
| r_schestowitz | and nearly 80% upvoted now | Sep 26 03:33 |
| r_schestowitz | used to be over 40% at the start | Sep 26 03:33 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | No problem. I appreciate your callout too. It boggles my mind how people can justify this crap by saying "They list windows 10 pro and home as the supported operating system". | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Who would defend a car model that can only be driven on 1 or 2 highways? Bloody insane how far this sheep consumerism mentality goes. I get that it might be a honest driver issue without any malice intended, but i'd burn them just as hard because of their incompetence to do their quality assurance correctly. But guess what? they already lost their benefit of doubt on their previous fuck-up. | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, there is a pattern of bad behavior at issue here. Pre-installed malware and their response to people finding out about it (The Superfish incident), a BIOS that abused an anti-theft feature to keep reinstalling crapware, and now a half dozen or so Yoga computers that can't run Linux for no other reason than they wrote additional code to strip support for it out of a BIOS that had the support to begin with. | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Now they try to control how people are allowed to think about the issue by imposing arbitrary rules in their own discussion forum for the issue. | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Bingo | Sep 26 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | "Lenovo shill detected" | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | (Superfish) They did not immediately stop and they said a lot of lies and dragged their feet on it before releasing a removal tool and admitting that it was a security threat. | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | (Idiotic fake RAID in the Yoga) There is no reason for supporting the fake raid in Linux. It doesn't do anything useful except work around a problem with Windows (lack of driver override support would cause Windows to use a generic driver and get bad power management if it didn't think this was RAID and load Intel's driver). The right thing to do here is almost certainly to use Linux to set the hardware back to AHCI on every boot and | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | ignore the RAID mode entirely. | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | As a result of Lenovo's incompetence/malfeasance (pick one) you can't even clean install Windows without a lot of work. You'd think that Windows 10 would bundle an Intel driver wouldn't you? Maybe they will in the future. Right now, good luck if you're an average user when the preinstalled copy of Windows goes south. | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | "No more fucking lenovo for me , that's sure." | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | Jesus Christ, Lenovo is ruining their legacy pulling off a stunt like this. Their old Thinkpads are still considered the easiest laptops on which to install a Linux Distro. | Sep 26 03:36 |
| r_schestowitz | RIP (Rest in Pieces) | Sep 26 03:37 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:37 |
| r_schestowitz | "Wow, i just came on here because i was thinking of switching to Linux on my Lenovo laptop. I guess it saves me a lot of time on research if it isn't even possible u_u Well i'll be throwing in my support by filing complaints as you suggested. What a disappointment." | Sep 26 03:37 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:37 |
| r_schestowitz | Matthew Garrett approaches a lot of people with hostility. | Sep 26 03:37 |
| r_schestowitz | If you want to know what he thinks is the solution, you can read it here. | Sep 26 03:37 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/d829c91 | Sep 26 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | BaronHK comments on Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. | Sep 26 03:38 | |
| r_schestowitz | He admits that the best way to approach this is probably to ignore the forced RAID mode, which by the way, Lenovo had to write additional code to hide and write-protect, and just have Linux reset the hardware to AHCI after the kernel starts. Then nobody ever has to worry about supporting the RAID controller in Linux. Lenovo probably didn't plan on anyone ever thinking about that. It doesn't help Linux anyway. It's working around a | Sep 26 03:38 |
| r_schestowitz | limitation in Windows. The limitation being that there's no way to do a driver override in Windows when there's a better driver available (in this case for power management), so fooling it with RAID mode makes it go load Intel's driver. | Sep 26 03:38 |
| r_schestowitz | The idea cropped up in a comment on the thread about Lenovo doing this and I took it to Garrett on his blog. | Sep 26 03:38 |
| r_schestowitz | Even with his caustic personality and horrible social positions, he's in a position to write a patch for this. I'm not. | Sep 26 03:38 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 03:38 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, he can be hostile | Sep 26 03:38 |
| r_schestowitz | don't take it too personally | Sep 26 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, You think he'll come through or is there someone else I should talk to? | Sep 26 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'd really love to get that patch in so that it works anyway despite MS+Lenovo. | Sep 26 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | It would be interesting if they broke future models in some other way. | Sep 26 03:59 |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 26 04:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:44:02) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Hi | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:44:22) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: OK, no problems | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 08:45 | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:45:14) someone has signed off. | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:45:15) someone has signed on. | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:48:48) someone has signed off. | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:48:51) someone has signed on. | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 08:50 | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:53:28) someone: how's it going? | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:54:21) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: good, quiet night | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 08:55 | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:55:45) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: someone from techrights is still pressing Lenovo https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux | Sep 26 04:14 | |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:00) someone: not sure how big a deal it is | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:18) someone: apple seem to get away with selling hardware with software locked in | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:42) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: right, but they advertise now as "PC" | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: anyway, it's not my 'project' | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:54) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: some people in techrights | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:58) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I mostly just observe | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 09:00 | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:00:20) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: it did have a big impact in the media, ~50 articles in English-speaking media this past week | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:00:38) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: they're scrambling to build up lies on top of lies | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:00:47) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: same thing they did after Superfish scandal | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:01:02) someone: superfish? | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:01:56) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: They preinstalled very malicious spyware | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:02:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: look it up, it was all over the news for weeks earlier this year, hundreds if not thousands of press articles about it | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:02:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: (in English) | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:02:51) someone: yeah i see it now | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:03:45) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: there was another scandal last year | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:04:03) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: the Chinese company ruins a reputtable part of IBM's legacy | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 09:05 | Sep 26 04:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:06:58) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: handover sent | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:09) someone: are ibm not on your shit list then? | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: obviously not | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: IBM still does a lot for gnu/linux | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:38) someone: i assumed they were atleast equally evil to microsoft | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:45) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: on patents, yes | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: and software patents lobbying | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:08:00) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: but at least they contribute to FOSS in many areas | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:08:06) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: and they rarely if ever attack it | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:08:37) someone: apprently at IBM you are considered a master invetor if you have 1000 patents to your name | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:09:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'm mostly focused on patents these days, in techrights at least. Software patents are dying in the US and the EPO is dying also, see my latest on it... http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Sep 26 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Sep 26 04:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | (09:09:57) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: IBM's patent policy is terrible these days http://techrights.org/2016/03/03/ibm-swpats-weaponised/ | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | 09:10 | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:10:55) someone: i don't understand how software patents work in EU/UK | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:08) someone: i was under the impression they were still not formally recognised | Sep 26 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Shortly After Massive Layoffs ‘King of Patents’ IBM is Using Software Patents to Sue Much Smaller Companies | Techrights | Sep 26 04:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: right, because it's "compicated" | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: in theory they don't exist | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:23) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: but there are deliberate loopholes | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:34) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: EPO examiners told me they grant these | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:41) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: and EPO promotes these earlier this month | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:51) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: UK-IPO is not much better in that regard | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:13:18) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: OK, I better get going.. ;-) | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:13:32) someone: ok | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:13:36) someone: cya tommorow | Sep 26 04:15 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: for now keep their feet to the fire | Sep 26 04:15 |
| <--KyriosBrastianos has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 26 04:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281708650213376 | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop virtualisation kit-calculator goes open source | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O0A75i0XTD (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 04:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop virtualisation kit-calculator goes open source | Tux Machines | Sep 26 04:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281709665275904 | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Last Release Candidate https://t.co/nPak7k7FbS | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 04:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs Last Release Candidate | Tux Machines | Sep 26 04:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281710810271745 | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security and Software Updates https://t.co/eWAmE7PyTA | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 04:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 04:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security and Software Updates | Tux Machines | Sep 26 04:34 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 26 04:58 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 04:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780331466995695616 | Sep 26 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leaked Presentation Slide Reveals Sony’s Android 7.0 | Sep 26 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Roadmap https://t.co/n1OXppT5fM (www.ubergizmo.com) | Sep 26 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubergizmo.com | Leaked Presentation Slide Reveals Sony’s Android 7.0 Roadmap | Sep 26 05:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780332132182978560 | Sep 26 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 4th rumors: Google to show off merged Android/Chrome | Sep 26 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS preview, $69 Chromecast Ultra and $129 Google Home | Sep 26 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Yzav36Fykz (liliputing.com) | Sep 26 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oct 4th rumors: Google to show off merged Android/Chrome OS preview, $69 Chromecast Ultra and $129 Google Home - Liliputing | Sep 26 05:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780332803217055744 | Sep 26 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google could be about to reveal its Android and Chrome OS | Sep 26 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | merger https://t.co/td8P2n9d5u (www.techradar.com) | Sep 26 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google could be about to reveal its Android and Chrome OS merger | TechRadar | Sep 26 05:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780334045158932484 | Sep 26 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Firefox 49 features in Fedora https://t.co/GWuzH4wzJg | Sep 26 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (fedoramagazine.org) | Sep 26 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/new-firefox-49-features-fedora/ ) | Sep 26 05:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780334820039753728 | Sep 26 05:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My talk about Mainline Explicit Fencing at XDC 2016! | Sep 26 05:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Yb9DtqMWYT (padovan.org) | Sep 26 05:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-padovan.org | My talk about Mainline Explicit Fencing at XDC 2016! – Gustavo Padovan | Sep 26 05:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780336357583585280 | Sep 26 05:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gorgeous Apricity OS Linux Distro Now Works on 32-bit | Sep 26 05:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs, Build 09.2016 Is Out https://t.co/l3LQ3CGz48 | Sep 26 05:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gorgeous Apricity OS Linux Distro Now Works on 32-bit PCs, Build 09.2016 Is Out | Sep 26 05:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780336526169432064 | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets the Latest Debian | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Fixes, Update Now https://t.co/Yk0RL1FtwF | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets the Latest Debian Security Fixes, Update Now | Sep 26 05:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780336905867108352 | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Protect Your PC from Viruses https://t.co/NJJocZDzWA | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to Protect Your PC from Viruses | Sep 26 05:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780337086176034816 | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Year of Development https://t.co/NgJRpLkqhc | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One Year of Development | Sep 26 05:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Soundtoxin retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Google could be about to reveal its Android...' | Sep 26 05:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780337757981933568 | Sep 26 05:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs | Sep 26 05:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Last Release Candidate https://t.co/hEVDJd05sz | Sep 26 05:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs Last Release Candidate | Sep 26 05:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780338645576343552 | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security and Software Updates https://t.co/WDEKVrL3mR | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security and Software Updates | Sep 26 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339239040999424 | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wattOS 10 Microwatt Edition Comes with Less of | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Everything, Based on Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/5N0Ll2WSMg | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | wattOS 10 Microwatt Edition Comes with Less of Everything, Based on Ubuntu 16.04 | Sep 26 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339265733554176 | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | digiKam 5.2.0 Linux RAW Image Editor Introduces a New Red | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Eyes Tool, Bug Fixes https://t.co/QWZ56LuLfX | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | digiKam 5.2.0 Linux RAW Image Editor Introduces a New Red Eyes Tool, Bug Fixes | Sep 26 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339618659131392 | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.7.5 Released with Numerous ARM and | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Networking Improvements https://t.co/ZVRxRI1ZKE | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.7.5 Released with Numerous ARM and Networking Improvements | Sep 26 05:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339846112022528 | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Worms W.M.D should have multiplatform online play by the | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | end of October, including between GOG and Steam | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/deBZSuKuXW (error) | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/worms-wmd-should-have-multiplatform-online-play-by-the-end-of-october-including-between-gog-and-steam.8173 ) | Sep 26 05:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339997958438916 | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with In-Game | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Level Editor, Improvements https://t.co/qATUiP7Nkx | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 05:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with In-Game Level Editor, Improvements | Sep 26 05:40 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 05:50 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft says that they want to solve cancer by treating it like a computer virus. | Sep 26 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | Just like Microsoft solved computer viruses by treating them like computer vir....oh wait. | Sep 26 05:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I linked to your thread from tux machines | Sep 26 06:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that was a Microsoft spam campaign | Sep 26 06:01 |
| schestowitz | I responded to it, but not in an article | Sep 26 06:01 |
| schestowitz | then there was the Zuckerberg idiocy about curing disease | Sep 26 06:02 |
| schestowitz | same publicity stunt as Bill Gates' | Sep 26 06:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780341268979253248 | Sep 26 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Now Has Bootable RISC-V Disk Images Available | Sep 26 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/015J8lqbIj (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 06:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Now Has Bootable RISC-V Disk Images Available - Phoronix | Sep 26 06:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780347284026523648 | Sep 26 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 06:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 • The Register | Sep 26 06:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 06:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.7.5 Released with Numerous ARM and...' | Sep 26 06:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with...' | Sep 26 06:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to...' | Sep 26 06:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One...' | Sep 26 06:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK Linux 4.8 gets...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gorgeous Apricity OS Linux Distro Now Works on...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780347459532890113 | Sep 26 06:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 06:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 06:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'wattOS 10 Microwatt Edition Comes with Less of...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'digiKam 5.2.0 Linux RAW Image Editor Introduces a...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets the Latest Debian...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security...' | Sep 26 06:05 | |
| DaemonFC | Time for bed. I keep meaning to run by Best Buy and get a CF card so I can install a Linux distribution to is. | Sep 26 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | It's better than a kick in the ass. As they say.... | Sep 26 06:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good job | Sep 26 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 06:08 |
| schestowitz | most commented in sub https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/ | Sep 26 06:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux, GNU/Linux, free software... | Sep 26 06:09 | |
| schestowitz | except SJWs thread (older) | Sep 26 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. | Sep 26 06:10 |
| schestowitz | hopefully the Office will send a response, it can be posted as a separate post if need be | Sep 26 06:11 |
| schestowitz | if they are looking into it | Sep 26 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | office? | Sep 26 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, the AG? | Sep 26 06:11 |
| schestowitz | "Lenovo under investigation for working with Microsoft to limit choice" or something to that effect | Sep 26 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. If the state thinks they can get a good fine out of it, they'll chase it down. | Sep 26 06:12 |
| schestowitz | they can demand the contracts under NDAs or something | Sep 26 06:12 |
| schestowitz | I think they have special attorney powers | Sep 26 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Best part is that Microsoft has large offices in Illinois. | Sep 26 06:12 |
| schestowitz | where there's smoke there's usually fire | Sep 26 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | Physical presence in Chicago and Downer's Grove. | Sep 26 06:12 |
| schestowitz | home of Dick Tracy iirc | Sep 26 06:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus...' | Sep 26 06:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780348819322044416 | Sep 26 06:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenChrome Maintainer Making Some Progress On VIA DRM | Sep 26 06:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver https://t.co/eGJvbcvz3o (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 06:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 06:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenChrome Maintainer Making Some Progress On VIA DRM Driver - Phoronix | Sep 26 06:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Yep. | Sep 26 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | Night night | Sep 26 06:14 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 26 06:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-news-recap-lenovo-yogas-block-linux-skype-preview-gets-sms-relay-and-more | Sep 26 06:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winbeta.org | Windows 10 news recap: Lenovo Yogas block Linux, Skype Preview gets SMS Relay and more – WinBeta | Sep 26 06:17 | |
| -->KyriosBrastianos (~quassel@ipa99.19.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:41 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 26 06:55 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:55 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/latest-thoughts-about-brexit-and-upc.html?showComment=1474845017250#c2027066593447987249 | Sep 26 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Latest thoughts about Brexit and the UPC | Sep 26 07:02 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | It appears to me that:- | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | Those who argue "wait and only ratify if the UK is guaranteed the court post-Brexit" are really saying "we don't like it, we never did like it, and this is a way of opposing it without seeming to be reactionary". | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | Those who argue "kick the UK out as soon as possible" are letting a sense of hurt (which may be justified), or political purity (which is not justified) override the pragmatic calculation of the value to Europe of having the UK part of the system. | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | Those who argue "ratify now, and sort out exit arrangements (if necessary) later" are recognising that this project was long fought for, but patience can snap, and it is better to be inside the system than out. | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | On pure pragmatism, ratification now makes sense. Whether pure pragmatism gets listened to in the UK these days is a different question, | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | wow | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | UPC lobbying again | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | I could not disagree more. The "ratify now and sort out the mess later" approach presupposes that there will be a politically acceptable solution down the line that allows the UK to remain part of the UPC system. When you sit down and consider what compromises this will require on the part of the UK (and the large number of EU Regulations and Directives, as well as international agreements, that will require amendment) then you realise that | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | it would be more than a little foolhardy to assume that everything will work out the way that the proponents of the UPC would like. | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | As has been argued by the IP Federation, the worst of all possible worlds would be ratification of the UPC by the UK, followed by the UK's withdrawal from the system. Indeed, which businesses could cope with the huge levels of uncertainty that such a sequence of events would generate? | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | So, to summarise, the "ratify now" approach that you propose involves either second-guessing a political outcome or setting up the worst possible outcome of all. Sorry to say, but I truly fail to see how "pure pragmatism" could lead one to follow that particular path. Are you sure that you are not letting the pre-referendum proximity to the finishing line affect your judgement? | Sep 26 07:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 07:02 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 26 07:36 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 07:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780349753385246720 | Sep 26 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing Various HDDs & SSDs On Ubuntu With The Linux 4.8 | Sep 26 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel https://t.co/uNPZclDcLv (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 07:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Testing Various HDDs & SSDs On Ubuntu With The Linux 4.8 Kernel - Phoronix | Sep 26 07:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780367668146761728 | Sep 26 07:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 26/9/2016: Linux 4.8 RC8, SuperTux 0.5 | Sep 26 07:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oks8xfn4NE (techrights.org) | Sep 26 07:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 07:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/9/2016: Linux 4.8 RC8, SuperTux 0.5 | Techrights | Sep 26 07:41 | |
| <--MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 26 07:41 | |
| -->MinceR (~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 07:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 26/9/2016: Linux 4.8 RC8, SuperTux 0.5 https://t.co/oks8xfn4NE' | Sep 26 07:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Brad_Kayl followed @tuxmachines | Sep 26 07:58 | |
| ---razielle_tzu_ is now known as razielle_tzu | Sep 26 08:21 | |
| cubexyz | Acer's got a new wrinkle on the google computer | Sep 26 08:50 |
| cubexyz | the acer "chromebase" | Sep 26 08:50 |
| cubexyz | I think almost everything's in the monitor | Sep 26 08:54 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo (!) has a pretty good deal on a chromebox... only $170 CAN | Sep 26 09:00 |
| cubexyz | there's also a chromebit dongle | Sep 26 09:03 |
| cubexyz | you plug it into the HDMI port of your tv or monitor and shazam... instant computer | Sep 26 09:04 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 26 09:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780376094918733824 | Sep 26 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Behind the GNOME 3.22 Release Video | Sep 26 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Dy80u6ObBV (blogs.gnome.org) | Sep 26 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/bastian/2016/09/26/gnome-3-22-release-video/ ) | Sep 26 09:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780376328734437376 | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 great Android features that iOS needs to steal | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cRLfcIXlEM (www.pcworld.com) | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8 great Android features that iOS needs to steal | PCWorld | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401739824455680 | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/eIOJWjIziE | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401741774790659 | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/0iYzb7XRtR | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401742991138817 | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/I9tUfM0whH | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401744236785665 | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 great Android features that iOS needs to steal | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DFlpLdUgYQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 great Android features that iOS needs to steal | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:41 | |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/HyQsR | Sep 26 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | Trump-induced anxiety is a real thing. | Sep 26 10:03 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/ClDjLTb | Sep 26 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-In 500 meters, leave the highway, then re-enter the same highway on an entrance ramp that's closed for roadwork. - Imgur | Sep 26 10:21 | |
| MinceR | apparently renaming ovi maps didn't help, it still sucks | Sep 26 10:24 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 26 10:36 | |
| MinceR | http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-09-25 | Sep 26 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2016-09-25 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Sep 26 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401745616789505 | Sep 26 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/eRFZorfyT6 | Sep 26 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 26 10:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ojeinoffline favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 26 10:47 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 11:17 | |
| -->tyreld (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 11:18 | |
| MinceR | http://www.tundracomics.com/thisweekstundra/08-27-16.jpg | Sep 26 11:20 |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 11:21 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 26 11:21 |
| razielle_tzu | hi | Sep 26 11:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yay isn't ebaby great at telling you were a parcel is | Sep 26 11:22 |
| razielle_tzu | it can be yeah | Sep 26 11:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, the tracking made it sound like still in india yesterday, and today when just checked | Sep 26 11:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | no no I was being sarcastic | Sep 26 11:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then there are no emails to say got a delivery as well | Sep 26 11:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so yep no wonder I missed it today then eveven though here | Sep 26 11:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I did read that some stuff come quite quick or possibly such as that tizen phone, but now I got to wait untill tommorow | Sep 26 11:23 |
| razielle_tzu | ebay has little tracking of it's own, it relies on tracking features the post office and other delivery companies use | Sep 26 11:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well it gave the india stuff, but that's it | Sep 26 11:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I got nothing else for this | Sep 26 11:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so no idea it was in uk alrdy | Sep 26 11:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, going to see if I can get some outside help for event now as well :d | Sep 26 11:26 |
| razielle_tzu | nice | Sep 26 11:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe I cn ge the Jolla guy to come ;d | Sep 26 11:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or that other guy if not | Sep 26 11:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe I can get a Mozilla repo to come as well like before, it will be someone else now though | Sep 26 11:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Mozilla rep above | Sep 26 11:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, and maybe can get someone from Creative Commons UK hmm | Sep 26 11:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that should do it :) | Sep 26 11:28 |
| razielle_tzu | yah | Sep 26 11:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I don' think Libre office has reps :d, but don't need that, but if I contact the dutch again I should be able to have more stuff sent | Sep 26 11:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but still have some from before | Sep 26 11:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | stickers I mean | Sep 26 11:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | maybe something else to if I really ask nicely :d | Sep 26 11:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, old guy still wants me to get a council focal point, but thats' ok | Sep 26 11:32 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 26 12:55 | |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 26 13:30 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 26 13:42 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 13:42 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent.ftsr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/14355120_10154543113628343_3050392087581838364_n.jpg?oh=4a93b376b8d93086f39b9529fb30fd7a&oe=58654484 | Sep 26 13:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice ones | Sep 26 13:50 |
| schestowitz | all 5 | Sep 26 13:58 |
| schestowitz | saves me time separating wheat from chaff for humour | Sep 26 13:59 |
| MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1738/ | Sep 26 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Moon Shapes | Sep 26 13:59 | |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 14:00 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 14:09 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/natural-scientists | Sep 26 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Natural Scientists | Sep 26 14:15 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14440724_1340018339359165_937755095953111589_n.jpg?oh=95a41d416bedea91d7646e1eb0ff7446&oe=58639EA8 | Sep 26 14:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/andreathekline/status/780382090575618048 | Sep 26 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@andreathekline: @schestowitz @DrJillStein stay in Brexitland | Sep 26 14:20 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure that that's even supposed to mean | Sep 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks | Sep 26 14:22 |
| schestowitz | I wait for daemon to get back | Sep 26 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Reddit locked his thread | Sep 26 14:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 14:22 |
| schestowitz | which is odd | Sep 26 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Con Dynasty | Sep 26 14:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe he has insight as to why | Sep 26 14:22 |
| schestowitz | next thing you know they'll ban or shadow-ban him | Sep 26 14:22 |
| MinceR | http://tribunist.com/technology/i-committed-the-biggest-mistake-of-my-life-iphone-7-owners-destroy-phones-after-drilling-their-own-headphone-jack/ | Sep 26 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-“I committed the biggest mistake of my life”: iPhone 7 Owners Destroy Phones After DRILLING Their Own Headphone Jack | Tribunist | Sep 26 14:24 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 14:26 | |
| MinceR | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/14199256_1768477530089460_6184589018484521235_n.jpg?oh=3b6726e50baf1cc0d7990651fd438d25&oe=58812BCD&__gda__=1485009575_34bf74293cfb2c07bd703a6e57d58e49 | Sep 26 14:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SB_Debbi/status/780388608394092544 | Sep 26 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SB_Debbi: @schestowitz how many different ways are you aiming to tweet the same negative comments ? Read the reports and the news | Sep 26 14:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ehschoenberger/status/780391340672712704 | Sep 26 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ehschoenberger: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka - way to grasp gov investment vs no private in sectors that need it. Knee jerk ignorance: https://t.co/dVIPVbwtXa | Sep 26 14:37 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/I6pbqhH | Sep 26 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows Update bytes off more than it can chew. - Imgur | Sep 26 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | devops LOL | Sep 26 15:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7893417 | Sep 26 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Buzzword DevOps: All Development, No Database http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2016/09/26/devops-no-database/ or, just call things what they really are, not buzzwords like Clown Computing | Sep 26 15:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> redmonk.com | DevOps: All Development, No Database – tecosystems | Sep 26 15:01 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I use clown computing joke extensively now | Sep 26 15:02 |
| schestowitz | people like it | Sep 26 15:02 |
| razielle_tzu | xD | Sep 26 15:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 15:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ed_averill/status/780479787269619712 | Sep 26 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ed_averill: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Freedom of... Assembly?, Speech?, ... | Sep 26 15:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ed_averill/status/780480144922193920 | Sep 26 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ed_averill: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Hey, get 2 remote presence robots and some good soap boxes! Do it from another state. | Sep 26 15:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/andreathekline/status/780481158375206912 | Sep 26 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@andreathekline: @schestowitz @DrJillStein you live in England- stay there- and invite Stein to move there | Sep 26 15:03 | |
| schestowitz | Stay in the US, ma'em, your country has military bases in our country including one in #yorkshire #menwithhill | Sep 26 15:04 |
| schestowitz | ma'am | Sep 26 15:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tonirtx/status/780482633109155840 | Sep 26 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonirtx: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka I guess the police are just being extra careful since so many people deeply hate Trump and Clinton. | Sep 26 15:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780469911785246720 | Sep 26 15:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Announcing the KDE Advisory Board | Sep 26 15:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0gMrmEIhMK (dot.kde.org) | Sep 26 15:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Announcing the KDE Advisory Board | KDE.news | Sep 26 15:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780484484588244992 | Sep 26 15:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux Foundation Partners with Girls in Tech to | Sep 26 15:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Increase Diversity in Open Source https://t.co/tUtyrluxm2 | Sep 26 15:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Sep 26 15:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Linux Foundation Partners with Girls in Tech to Increase Diversity in Open Source | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 26 15:10 | |
| MinceR | webserver seems to be down :( | Sep 26 15:10 |
| MinceR | it keeps giving me guru meditation | Sep 26 15:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780484613194014720 | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Muneeb | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kalathil https://t.co/iEBmM7Hwkh (www.linux.com) | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Muneeb Kalathil | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 26 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780485084151422976 | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Reiser4 Implements Mirror & Failover Support | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/81YLPUVMls (www.phoronix.com) Edward | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Shishkin still working on it | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reiser4 Implements Mirror & Failover Support - Phoronix | Sep 26 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780485384933433347 | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unimpressed with Ubuntu 16.10? Yakkety Yak... don't talk | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | back https://t.co/TrK1VuBQta (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Unimpressed with Ubuntu 16.10? Yakkety Yak... don't talk back • The Register | Sep 26 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780485727582818304 | Sep 26 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Core i7 6800K Benchmarks On Ubuntu + Linux 4.8 | Sep 26 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/x1hnUH3VXG (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Core i7 6800K Benchmarks On Ubuntu + Linux 4.8 Review - Phoronix | Sep 26 15:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780486424676237312 | Sep 26 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat's Results Underscore its Growing Focus on | Sep 26 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack https://t.co/ZcFL50DJcp (ostatic.com) | Sep 26 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Red Hat's Results Underscore its Growing Focus on OpenStack | Sep 26 15:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780489053506535425 | Sep 26 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | On Wednesday the 28th of September Feral Interactive will | Sep 26 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | livestream Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II on Linux | Sep 26 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EpzzEoKwv3 (error) | Sep 26 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/on-wednesday-the-28th-of-september-feral-interactive-will-livestream-warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-ii-on-linux.8176 ) | Sep 26 15:32 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: techrights? | Sep 26 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780490068494585856 | Sep 26 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam Dev Days Are In 2 Weeks; SteamOS/Linux Will Be | Sep 26 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Talked About https://t.co/z5mdTbOiQv (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Dev Days Are In 2 Weeks; SteamOS/Linux Will Be Talked About - Phoronix | Sep 26 15:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780493124435111936 | Sep 26 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Black Lab Linux 8 Beta 3 Released https://t.co/7LzDIMzTQp | Sep 26 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.blacklablinux.org) | Sep 26 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org | Black Lab Linux: Black Lab Linux 8 Beta 3 Released | Sep 26 15:47 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: indeed | Sep 26 15:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the varnish timeouts in which site? | Sep 26 15:47 |
| schestowitz | yes, some load issues earlier, seems better now | Sep 26 15:47 |
| MinceR | techrights.org, but it was a while ago | Sep 26 15:48 |
| MinceR | works now, but it's still very slow | Sep 26 15:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wow, lots of downtime this afternoon based on nagios | Sep 26 16:00 |
| schestowitz | the only solace I have is, I was away and could not do much to improve it | Sep 26 16:00 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 16:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/780497167949717504 | Sep 26 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz @debates @agustinduranLA @DrJillStein but put into a POLICE VAN? Appalling behaviour. | Sep 26 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't want to get upset at things I could not prevent and happened in the past | Sep 26 16:08 |
| schestowitz | I came to the realisation it's just self-defeating | Sep 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | nagios alerts on a phone would not have helped unless I have an ssh client | Sep 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | neo900 might help | Sep 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | the nokia 900 project | Sep 26 16:09 |
| schestowitz | MS killed Nokia's debian gnu/linux on phones with physical keyboards | Sep 26 16:09 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @maelpoke favourited 'Black Lab Linux 8 Beta 3 Released https://t.co/7LzDIMzTQp' | Sep 26 16:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780500619333435392 | Sep 26 16:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Declutter your phone for a cleaner, faster Android | Sep 26 16:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | experience https://t.co/C11NfQu6g5 (www.greenbot.com) | Sep 26 16:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 16:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Declutter your phone for a cleaner, faster Android experience | Greenbot | Sep 26 16:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780501053611601921 | Sep 26 16:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Andromeda hybrid Android/Chrome OS tested on Nexus | Sep 26 16:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 9 https://t.co/xY3SjK2mRi (www.slashgear.com) | Sep 26 16:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 16:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Andromeda hybrid Android/Chrome OS tested on Nexus 9 - SlashGear | Sep 26 16:18 | |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1410.html | Sep 26 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids [ http://ur1.ca/psuqu ] | Sep 26 16:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780501817629274112 | Sep 26 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phones 5.7 inches And Over | Sep 26 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ja14SKbyLQ (www.androidcentral.com) | Sep 26 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 16:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phones 5.7 inches And Over | Android Central | Sep 26 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780502918143287296 | Sep 26 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi Mi Box Android TV appears in the wild with a $69 | Sep 26 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | price tag https://t.co/jcocHElHiS (www.greenbot.com) | Sep 26 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 16:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Xiaomi Mi Box Android TV appears in the wild with a $69 price tag | Greenbot | Sep 26 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @justin_devs http://twitter.com/justin_devs/status/780504426641358848 | Sep 26 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @agreenbot I've tried to use AndroidTV it | Sep 26 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | just sucks very bad. Worse than AppleTV when it first | Sep 26 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | came out. | Sep 26 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 16:41 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/ozx6V5a | Sep 26 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mac OS - now with 50% more apple - Imgur | Sep 26 16:42 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't like Star Wars | Sep 26 16:43 |
| schestowitz | even before it was -- cough -- Disney | Sep 26 16:44 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 16:44 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 16:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Anon_Technology/status/780509970555101184 | Sep 26 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Anon_Technology: Democracy is a general description Demoarchy is the problem you're referring to https://t.co/2WkXWaGmgs | Sep 26 16:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It's a Republic, not a Democracy, and it was designed this way. #jillstein represents the threat OF #democracy https://t.co/xwuhhgP1xV | Sep 26 16:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: hi | Sep 26 16:54 |
| schestowitz | see what reddit did | Sep 26 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They locked all my posts and marked them as "misleading". | Sep 26 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Sep 26 16:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/IanMolony/status/780510048577392640 | Sep 26 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanMolony: A Democratic Republic #PartyDespotism will be our undoing @schestowitz @kshaw58 @C_A_Vision @DrJillStein https://t.co/sebQR5AnKG | Sep 26 16:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanMolony: A Democratic Republic #PartyDespotism will be our undoing @schestowitz @kshaw58 @C_A_Vision @DrJillStein https://t.co/sebQR5AnKG | Sep 26 16:55 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I don't see how it's misleading at all | Sep 26 16:55 |
| schestowitz | they should flag it "editor doesn't like it!" | Sep 26 16:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SallySi84056611/status/780510452102991872 | Sep 26 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SallySi84056611: @schestowitz @USATODAY There will be only one winner in this race. By now if you can't tell a difference there is something very wrong. | Sep 26 16:55 | |
| schestowitz | The difference between Greens and GOP or Greens and 'Democrats' is profound. | Sep 26 16:56 |
| MinceR | ITT: usians having no clue about what democracy and republic are | Sep 26 16:58 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bryanbrewtech favourited 'Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with...' | Sep 26 17:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780512050313302016 | Sep 26 17:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung in talks with Russian government to distribute | Sep 26 17:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Z3 to students https://t.co/7kIBqpnqNM | Sep 26 17:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 26 17:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 17:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung in talks with Russian government to distribute the Z3 to students - Tizen Experts | Sep 26 17:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GPShelbyCounty/status/780511860856614912 | Sep 26 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GPShelbyCounty: @schestowitz @C_A_Vision @DrJillStein It's democracy with a little d. Still exists in a Republic. | Sep 26 17:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GallopinDragons/status/780512072215912448 | Sep 26 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GallopinDragons: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Who cares about either of those things? What are their positions on issues that matter to others' lives? | Sep 26 17:02 | |
| schestowitz | haha, the two-party campers | Sep 26 17:02 |
| schestowitz | they's so 'cute'.. | Sep 26 17:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StaceyLScott8/status/780512331637723136 | Sep 26 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@StaceyLScott8: Agreed! :) https://t.co/3mXhoisC1J | Sep 26 17:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @StaceyLScott8 @MSNBC She presents the danger of impermissible views being brought up for the public to think about | Sep 26 17:02 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe they know what Federation is? | Sep 26 17:02 |
| schestowitz | Russian Federation? | Sep 26 17:03 |
| schestowitz | I always wondered that.. | Sep 26 17:03 |
| schestowitz | I don't even know what USSR qualified as | Sep 26 17:03 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: unlikely | Sep 26 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Aren't these just brands/marketing of governance models? | Sep 26 17:03 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: totalitarian dictatorship | Sep 26 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I didn't have anything in particular in mind. | Sep 26 17:03 |
| MinceR | as long as they're used to advertise various forms of oligarchy and dictatorship, maybe | Sep 26 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Russia's election is.... strange | Sep 26 17:04 |
| XRevan86 | United States is a federation. | Sep 26 17:04 |
| schestowitz | and havign Putin in power for so long discredits this system | Sep 26 17:04 |
| MinceR | afaik they prefer to call themselves a federal state | Sep 26 17:04 |
| schestowitz | also, the press being under severe attacks means journalists are afraid to criticise the ruling party, sometimes they just die | Sep 26 17:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, polonium does that :> | Sep 26 17:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh, didn't know that. | Sep 26 17:05 |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2016/09/eau-de-beef/ | Sep 26 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eau de beef | Engrish.com | Sep 26 17:07 | |
| XRevan86 | RF election system makes me want to forget all about RF election system. | Sep 26 17:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 26 17:07 |
| XRevan86 | Even though I did go and voted unlike 60% of the population who apparently really succeeded at forgetting. | Sep 26 17:08 |
| MinceR | ethanol does that | Sep 26 17:09 |
| -->acer-box (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 17:10 | |
| <--acer-box____ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 26 17:12 | |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2016/09/please-stop-splashing/ | Sep 26 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Please stop splashing. | Engrish.com | Sep 26 17:15 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm forking the Linux subreddit. | Sep 26 17:24 |
| MinceR | better fork reddit itself | Sep 26 17:25 |
| MinceR | it's free software, afaik | Sep 26 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxLessModerated/comments/54n1o2/welcome_to_linux_less_moderated/ | Sep 26 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Welcome to Linux Less Moderated. : LinuxLessModerated | Sep 26 17:30 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxLessModerated/comments/54n28g/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : LinuxLessModerated | Sep 26 17:33 | |
| DaemonFC | First post, copying the one they shut down. | Sep 26 17:33 |
| schestowitz | haha, bravo, good idea | Sep 26 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Welcome to Linux Less Moderated. : LinuxLessModerated https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxLessModerated/comments/54n1o2/welcome_to_linux_less_moderated/ too much #censorship http://techrights.org/2015/05/28/reddit-censorship/ | Sep 26 17:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: is it FOSS really? | Sep 26 17:37 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was closed | Sep 26 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condé) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | Techrights | Sep 26 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | is voat based on the same code? | Sep 26 17:37 |
| MinceR | last time i checked it was | Sep 26 17:37 |
| MinceR | no, voat is based on .net crap | Sep 26 17:37 |
| MinceR | so voat sucks | Sep 26 17:37 |
| schestowitz | hahaha | Sep 26 17:37 |
| schestowitz | down-voated | Sep 26 17:37 |
| schestowitz | if you pardon the pun | Sep 26 17:38 |
| MinceR | they intended that pun | Sep 26 17:38 |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 17:38 | |
| MinceR | https://github.com/reddit/ | Sep 26 17:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ping | Sep 26 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reddit · GitHub | Sep 26 17:39 | |
| MinceR | https://github.com/reddit/reddit/blob/master/LICENSE | Sep 26 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reddit/LICENSE at master · reddit/reddit · GitHub | Sep 26 17:39 | |
| razielle_tzu | hi SebthreeBQM10HD | Sep 26 17:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, pm me | Sep 26 17:39 |
| MinceR | this is what the Gratis Windows Foundation says about the CPAL: "This is a free software license. It is based on the Mozilla Public License version 1, and is incompatible with the GPL for the same reasons: it has several requirements for modified versions that do not exist in the GPL. It also requires you to publish the source of the program if you allow others to use it." | Sep 26 17:39 |
| MinceR | it's also approved by the OSI for what it's worth | Sep 26 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780512592536203264 | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat targets $5-b revenue in five years | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HysefvHvvv (www.thehindubusinessline.com) | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 17:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindubusinessline.com | Red Hat targets $5-b revenue in five years | Business Line | Sep 26 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526184413081600 | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pump.io Servers Adoption https://t.co/MHIHX5inWD | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 17:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pump.io Servers Adoption | Tux Machines | Sep 26 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526185658802176 | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/z45fn0b9yP | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 17:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Sep 26 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526186707378177 | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News https://t.co/TzXP9LNuM9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 17:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News | Tux Machines | Sep 26 17:55 | |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2016/09/see-i-told-you-the-airline-didnt-lose-it/ | Sep 26 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-See? I told you the airline didn’t lose it | Engrish.com | Sep 26 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | haha | Sep 26 17:58 |
| schestowitz | they just need to pay someone on IP phone to check it for them before production | Sep 26 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | It looks about the same as reddit. | Sep 26 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They have a discussion on voat. | Sep 26 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.voat.co/v/Linux/comments/1299811 | Sep 26 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voat.co | Linux can't be installed on recent Lenovo laptops per a secret agreement with MS | Linux | Sep 26 18:03 | |
| DaemonFC | The mod on /r/linux in Reddit seems to be pretty hostile to Linux and free software. | Sep 26 18:03 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 26 18:03 |
| schestowitz | not new | Sep 26 18:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks for the link | Sep 26 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: At some point all moderators of Linux.org.ru (the biggest Russian-speaking GNU/Linux community) were Apple users. | Sep 26 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | it got better, some new moderators got in who are actually into FOSS | Sep 26 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | but still, interesting trend :) | Sep 26 18:06 |
| MinceR | slashdot also got inundated with crApple cultists | Sep 26 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The first comment in the list on voat quotes me. | Sep 26 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | "The Lenovo employee posted about locking the thread. Basically, he called me disruptive and then said that if they had to, they would turn on pre-approval so that nobody can comment anywhere on their support forum until they've read it and have made sure it won't embarrass them." | Sep 26 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | northportage says "Now, not only do the affected people still want an answer, everyone else has seen how they handle problems. Glad we've ditched them. | Sep 26 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | " | Sep 26 18:09 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: At least they didn't embarrass themselves. | Sep 26 18:10 |
| XRevan86 | Totally didn't happen. | Sep 26 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Sep 26 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.voat.co/v/Linux/comments/1302685 | Sep 26 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voat.co | What's really going on with Microsoft, Lenovo and Linux | Linux | Sep 26 18:21 | |
| DaemonFC | [–] Kleyno 3 points (+3|-0) 4 days ago (edited 4 days ago) | Sep 26 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | Bullshit article. Are you really telling me that Lenovo intentionally crippled this line of laptop to a single OS, without any kickback from the company whose OS is the only one that will work on the hardware? | Sep 26 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | Where is the incentive, where is the profit? The fact that these "special" laptops don't come with bloatware as well, tells me that they must be getting additional funding from somewhere to offset the lack of money from the bloatware makers. | Sep 26 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | Mark my words, Microsoft have provided extra incentive to Lenovo to limit support to a single OS. | Sep 26 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | [–] ketezer 6 points (+6|-0) 5 days ago | Sep 26 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | I keep hearing about the "new Microsoft" but this sounds exactly like the old Microsoft. | Sep 26 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | permalink save source reply report spam | Sep 26 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | Steve Ballmer....Satya Nadella....Same **** different *******. | Sep 26 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | There is no new Microsoft. Only new tactics. Only new lies. | Sep 26 18:30 |
| XRevan86 | I think that new tactic is mostly this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie | Sep 26 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Big lie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 26 18:32 | |
| DaemonFC | [–] klobos 4 points (+4|-0) 5 days ago | Sep 26 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Made with Chinese parts, but not a 100% Chinese company. | Sep 26 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | permalink parent save source reply report spam | Sep 26 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | [–] Broc_Lia 3 points (+4|-1) 5 days ago | Sep 26 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | What's the difference? The company you're buying from is effectively a reseller. | Sep 26 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | True, which means if there is some obscured malware or backdoors in the hardware, it doesn't matter if you're using a computer from Dell or Lenovo if it has the same part from China in it. And the Chinese have been caught doing things like putting backdoors in network equipment that the US federal government purchased and used. No telling what they got away with, but the American government is still too stupid to demand firmware that it can | Sep 26 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | audit on imported equipment. | Sep 26 18:33 |
| MinceR | at least the one from dHell will quickly fall to bits and dHell will refuse to fix it under warranty | Sep 26 18:34 |
| MinceR | then you get to try your luck again | Sep 26 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | 126 upvotes, 2 downvotes (98.44% upvoted it) | Sep 26 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | On the VOAT story about the Linux lockout by Lenovo. | Sep 26 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | So the anti-Linux trolls in VOAT are about 1.56% of users compared with about 20% on Reddit. | Sep 26 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | So the anti-Linux trolls in VOAT are about 1.56% of users compared with about 20% on Reddit. | Sep 26 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Sep 26 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | I turned it into a post on that article. | Sep 26 18:37 |
| MinceR | strange for a .net site | Sep 26 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | 126 upvotes, 2 downvotes (98.44% upvoted it) | Sep 26 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | So the anti-Linux trolls in VOAT are about 1.56% of users compared with about 20% on Reddit. | Sep 26 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | The mods on Reddit ended up shutting down my posts and deleting them, after flagging them "misleading". From what they said in their sticky comment, they were too incompetent to understand what I was even saying. | Sep 26 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, VOAT protects people from sockpuppet accounts. | Sep 26 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | You have to get 100 upvotes on your comments and submissions before you can downvote anything. | Sep 26 18:39 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 26 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, if you're trying to vote with fifty new sockpuppet acccounts like poeple to on Reddit, that doesn't scale. :) | Sep 26 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | *do | Sep 26 18:39 |
| MinceR | shouldn't be difficult to game groupthink on the long run though | Sep 26 18:40 |
| MinceR | especially as the garbage people flood new sites after they've ruined the old ones | Sep 26 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | [–] 3dk 2 points (+2|-0) 5 days ago (edited 5 days ago) | Sep 26 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | According to Reddit user /u/bownairo, it's possible, but very difficult to install Linux on the Lenovos: | Sep 26 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | I had to construct some custom "clips" as the bios chip is a WSON package. All of this was done with the chip in place and the battery removed. I dumped the bios continuously until I was able to get a few dumps with the same sha. Then I had the bios modified. I flashed my chip to all null values, rewrote my custom image, and dumped it back to insure it wrote correctly. This allowed access to the advanced tab so I could change the controller | Sep 26 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | to AHCI from RAID, allowing it to be recognized by installers. | Sep 26 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even know what most of this means though. I hope Lenovo and M$ gets their asses kicked for trying to pull off their anti-consumer bullshit. | Sep 26 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | permalink save source reply report spam | Sep 26 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | He had to go through all of that because Lenovo's BIOS checks to see if an update is signed by them in a manner similar to Microsoft Authenticode, before it will agree to update. | Sep 26 18:41 |
| MinceR | has anyone tried to meddle with the pci ids Linux uses to identify the SSD? | Sep 26 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It seems that the people who left Reddit for VOAT had some good reasons. | Sep 26 18:41 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/3N7BLXh | Sep 26 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[Windows Store] All 5 star ratings show only slightly more than 4 stars - Imgur | Sep 26 18:42 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The only way to get the PCI information is if you can start it in AHCI mode and grab it that way. | Sep 26 18:42 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 26 18:42 |
| MinceR | but the others will follow once reddit starts dying | Sep 26 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | There's only one ISK2 that can do that. The one that the guy hardware modded. | Sep 26 18:42 |
| MinceR | can't you just boot a live distro and lspci? | Sep 26 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No. | Sep 26 18:42 |
| MinceR | why? | Sep 26 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | It can't even see that the device exists. | Sep 26 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | You have to boot in AHCI mode somehow. | Sep 26 18:43 |
| MinceR | that's seriously fucked up | Sep 26 18:45 |
| MinceR | how does Backdoors10 find out about the device? | Sep 26 18:45 |
| razielle_tzu | slipstreamed driver | Sep 26 18:45 |
| MinceR | i mean, on the hardware side | Sep 26 18:46 |
| MinceR | how does that driver know the device is there? | Sep 26 18:46 |
| razielle_tzu | that i'm not sure about | Sep 26 18:46 |
| MinceR | maybe Linux could be hacked to just assume the device is there | Sep 26 18:46 |
| MinceR | and start talking to it | Sep 26 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.businessinsider.com/r-bangladesh-bank-exposed-to-hackers-by-cheap-switches-no-firewall-police-2016-4 | Sep 26 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Bangladesh Bank exposed to hackers by cheap switches, no firewall: Police - Business Insider | Sep 26 18:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It has the Intel RST driver for Windows. | Sep 26 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | The Windows Boot Manager loads Windows, which grabs the driver, and proceeds to boot. | Sep 26 18:57 |
| MinceR | that still doesn't answer the main question | Sep 26 18:57 |
| MinceR | how does that driver know the device is there? | Sep 26 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | How does the Windows bootloader see the drive? | Sep 26 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | The same reason GRUB could see it and load Linux if our theoretical Linux patch was able to reset the drive to AHCI on each boot. | Sep 26 18:58 |
| MinceR | the winblows bootloader probably just uses uefi | Sep 26 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | GRUB uses uEFI to access the disk same as Windows Boot Manager. | Sep 26 18:58 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 26 18:59 |
| MinceR | but winblows doesn't, does it? | Sep 26 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | The Windows startup procedure has a disk image with the Windows kernel and the Intel RST driver in it. | Sep 26 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as WBM starts that, Windows is aware of the SSD. | Sep 26 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, But the startup procedure is like that to make Windows boot faster. | Sep 26 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | So if you could toggle it into AHCI mode, you'd crash with a BSoD at this point. | Sep 26 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | Probably before you could log in. | Sep 26 19:01 |
| MinceR | still, the intel RST driver somehow communicates with the SSD | Sep 26 19:02 |
| MinceR | garrett claimed something like they only changed the id to keep m$'s driver from picking it up | Sep 26 19:02 |
| MinceR | so it should be possible to talk to it | Sep 26 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | And there's nothing in Linux to bind to the SSD beccause it is unaware of this. | Sep 26 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Garrett says that even though Linux supports RST it can't drive the block device in RAID mode. | Sep 26 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm thinking there's something missing here that's a lot more than PCI IDs. | Sep 26 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | He seemed to agree with me that the best solution is having the kernel reset the controller in AHCI mode at evey boot if that's possible. | Sep 26 19:04 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 26 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Wikipedia is getting as bad as Reddit. | Sep 26 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | You cite reliable sources and then a few hours later someone comes and finds a technicality and instead of fixing it, they remove the whole thing. | Sep 26 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | So I come back and fix what they complain about. They always argue the Wikipedia policies. | Sep 26 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | I fix it up just enough that it complies with the policies. | Sep 26 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | Then once they can't find a reason to delete it anymore, that version usually sticks. | Sep 26 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, bbiab. Gotta run down and get something for dinner. | Sep 26 19:09 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 26 19:13 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 26 19:18 | |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-92-26-242-57.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 19:25 | |
| schestowitz | #lenovo announces layoffs. I guess the whole #gnu #linux backlash will harm their servers sales ($) severely and they know it. #microsoft | Sep 26 19:29 |
| MinceR | if they knew it, why did they do it? | Sep 26 19:30 |
| razielle_tzu | aren't most of hte layoffs in the motorola divisions though? | Sep 26 19:30 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 19:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526187869118464 | Sep 26 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/AJGY5wQFLy | Sep 26 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526188863168512 | Sep 26 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/uE9HhELa8Y | Sep 26 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780531273353822208 | Sep 26 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3 Awesome Themes For Plank, The Linux Dock App | Sep 26 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jl5DZEhfPG (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 26 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | 3 Awesome Themes For Plank, The Linux Dock App - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-lays-off-thousand-people-718442/ | Sep 26 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Motorola, Lenovo lay off over a thousand more people - Android Authority | Sep 26 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 26 19:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see above | Sep 26 19:48 |
| schestowitz | my wife told me an hour ago | Sep 26 19:48 |
| schestowitz | I guess there's a chance of correlation | Sep 26 19:49 |
| schestowitz | at least timing-wise | Sep 26 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Their smartphone division has been in trouble for a long time. | Sep 26 19:49 |
| schestowitz | there might be layoffs coming in other divisions | Sep 26 19:50 |
| schestowitz | give it time | Sep 26 19:50 |
| schestowitz | their invoices/orders for servers must have already taken a tumble | Sep 26 19:50 |
| razielle_tzu | seems that way although they seem to be deflecting to the phone division from what i've read | Sep 26 19:51 |
| <--tyreld has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 26 19:52 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 26 19:59 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/54nrkw/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 26 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/psvmi ] | Sep 26 20:00 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ouch | Sep 26 20:01 |
| schestowitz | what will you tell your city? ;-) | Sep 26 20:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jfleit/status/780557826724810752 | Sep 26 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jfleit: Well, that's one way to show up to #debatenight https://t.co/OZnFFXDKFk | Sep 26 20:03 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/54nryz/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 26 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: " In 2012, Stein and her running mate were arrested outside Hofstra University" https://t.co/GsjSVJyJwN cuffed to a chair for 8 hours | Sep 26 20:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : technology [ http://ur1.ca/psvmu ] | Sep 26 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | do the comments mention the linux dbacle? | Sep 26 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Trying to x-post this to all relevant subreddits. | Sep 26 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | Get some exposure. Make people consider what smartphone they want to buy. If the company will be around to support it well enough. | Sep 26 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | It only lets you do 2 x-posts every 10 minutes. | Sep 26 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | So I have to wait 5 before I post it in Android. | Sep 26 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Could you link to this on TuxMachines. | Sep 26 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Keeps Lenovo in the news. Let's people know wht's going on. | Sep 26 20:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780551816060821504 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft, Lenovo Accused Of Blocking Linux On Signature | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition PCs https://t.co/fo7d1fwWEW (techfrag.com) | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techfrag.com | Lenovo Accused Of Blocking Linux On Signature Edition PCs | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780559410104074240 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.3 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'security things in Linux v4.3' | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780559484963921924 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.3 https://t.co/eQPg4BmjRz | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.3 « codeblog | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560084476637184 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Important Bug Fixes https://t.co/7Aly2H5yZ0 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with Important Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560085835665408 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updated Drivers https://t.co/8O2M8AdTgr | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560088461217792 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top Web Browsers for Linux https://t.co/HCTszEbFky | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top Web Browsers for Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/54ntdw/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 26 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : Android | Sep 26 20:11 | |
| DaemonFC | There we go. In /r/android now. | Sep 26 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560089555963905 | Sep 26 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest | Sep 26 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSSL Vulnerabilities https://t.co/sNTS65Om9v | Sep 26 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest OpenSSL Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560090969452545 | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the GNOME 3.22 Desktop https://t.co/ptvL7vUF2Z | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with the GNOME 3.22 Desktop | Tux Machines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560146476990464 | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This is what the Chromecast Ultra will look like | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fdE8Ns4jyX (www.androidauthority.com) | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | This is what the Chromecast Ultra will look like - Android Authority | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560505643667456 | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Roku Express, Roku Premiere, and Roku Ultra announced, | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | starting at $29.99 https://t.co/Do2v3YiAno | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Roku Express, Roku Premiere, and Roku Ultra announced, starting at $29.99 | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8...' | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4...' | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| MinceR | 27 021149 < DaemonFC> There we go. In /r/android now. | Sep 26 20:14 |
| MinceR | already [removed] | Sep 26 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Works for me. | Sep 26 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | Someone even voted it up. | Sep 26 20:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, i did | Sep 26 20:16 |
| MinceR | so i guess this is some sort of shadowbanning, yet again | Sep 26 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54nuwr/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 26 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : linux | Sep 26 20:22 | |
| DaemonFC | shadow banning? | Sep 26 20:22 |
| MinceR | reddit was guilty of it before | Sep 26 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Sep 26 20:23 |
| MinceR | apparently reddit is a cesspit of shadowbans, lies, corporate meddling and crybullies, not a discussion forum | Sep 26 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | I just saw it in Edge where I was not logged in. | Sep 26 20:23 |
| MinceR | oh, forgot the corporate shills. | Sep 26 20:23 |
| MinceR | have you shift-reloaded? | Sep 26 20:23 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 26 20:25 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, something like that re reddit | Sep 26 20:26 |
| schestowitz | I think it was like this before the Con Synasty | Sep 26 20:26 |
| schestowitz | The Dynasty made them a little more nasty | Sep 26 20:26 |
| schestowitz | and ousted CEO increased censorship, that's why voat now exists | Sep 26 20:26 |
| schestowitz | voat sounds like vomit | Sep 26 20:26 |
| MinceR | loading it on other browsers, including another machine (neither of which i'm logged on in) also shows the port on r/android as [removed] | Sep 26 20:27 |
| MinceR | s/port/post/ | Sep 26 20:27 |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-78-151-242-77.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 20:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo | Sep 26 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Looking for tech-support, app recommendations, or device recommendations? Looking to root your phone, update/upgrade your phone, sell your phone, maintain your device, and more? Check out the wiki page! | Sep 26 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Note that /r/android filters ALL self-posts immediately after posting, so your post will NOT show up in /new. Fear not, however, as a moderator will come by to approve or remove your post. This can take up to 3 hours, so be patient! If your post is removed, then you will either receive a private message or your post will be flaired with the removal reason, so check before messaging us! If you do not see any action on your post within three | Sep 26 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | hours, then feel free to message the mods using the sidebar link at the bottom. | Sep 26 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Please be aware of our rules. If your post violates any of these rules, it will not be approved. Even if you ask kindly. Thanks, and have a good day! | Sep 26 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. | Sep 26 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I guess I'll just post it again. I deleted it figuring it ws a shadow ban. | Sep 26 20:30 |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 26 20:30 | |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-92-26-242-181.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 20:30 | |
| <--arossdotme-planb has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 26 20:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the...' | Sep 26 20:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works,...' | Sep 26 20:35 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 26 20:35 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/26/uber-self-driving-passengers-pittsburgh-injury-death-waiver?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews#link_time=1474922408 | Sep 26 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Passengers in Uber's self-driving cars waived right to sue for injury or death | Technology | The Guardian | Sep 26 20:35 | |
| DaemonFC | https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dq0sHcfJm0i-M8M0Tl3IF8SQ7W6PM&q=lenovo&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjts6yjp67PAhVF5iYKHc-BAZsQqgIIKjAA | Sep 26 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.google.com | Lenovo undergoes another big layoff... | Sep 26 20:38 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54nuwr/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 26 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : linux | Sep 26 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @PaulMeeke followed @tuxmachines | Sep 26 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780568873028481024 | Sep 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SODIMM-style i.MX7 COM features dual GbE, WiFi/BT, eMMC | Sep 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/99GsIRRzaa (hackerboards.com) | Sep 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | SODIMM-style i.MX7 COM features dual GbE, WiFi/BT, eMMC | Sep 26 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780569397396140032 | Sep 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, | Sep 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updated Drivers https://t.co/rR93aoewsv | Sep 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, Updated Drivers | Sep 26 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780569676774576128 | Sep 26 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top Web Browsers for Linux https://t.co/iPUZ8kJs4l | Sep 26 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.datamation.com) | Sep 26 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top Web Browsers for Linux - Datamation | Sep 26 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780570038671663105 | Sep 26 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest | Sep 26 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSSL Vulnerabilities https://t.co/WIE9jG6xN5 | Sep 26 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest OpenSSL Vulnerabilities | Sep 26 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780570333527015424 | Sep 26 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with | Sep 26 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the GNOME 3.22 Desktop https://t.co/4h7asqC59r | Sep 26 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with the GNOME 3.22 Desktop | Sep 26 20:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780571588659933184 | Sep 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | hackmud, a cyberpunk themed text-based hacking simulator | Sep 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | is now out with Linux support https://t.co/AdCfkmGUMW | Sep 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/hackmud-a-cyberpunk-themed-text-based-hacking-simulator-is-now-out-with-linux-support.8180 ) | Sep 26 21:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4...' | Sep 26 21:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the...' | Sep 26 21:03 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.businessinsider.com/pay-tv-prices-up-40-from-5-years-ago-2016-9 | Sep 26 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Pay TV prices up 40% from 5 years ago - Business Insider | Sep 26 21:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Could just watch pirate streaming sites for free. | Sep 26 21:08 |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-78-151-242-11.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works,...' | Sep 26 21:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780574292996087808 | Sep 26 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation and Linux https://t.co/rR3rvPSQLu | Sep 26 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 26 21:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780574294568906752 | Sep 26 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lenovo Anti-Linux, Layoffs, and Openwashing | Sep 26 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qHv5idsYh7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo Anti-Linux, Layoffs, and Openwashing | Tux Machines | Sep 26 21:30 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 26 21:44 | |
| ---_dmb_ is now known as dblaber | Sep 26 21:47 | |
| DaemonFC | https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/26/lenovos-gutting-of-motorola-is-nearly-complete/ | Sep 26 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lenovo’s gutting of Motorola is nearly complete | TechCrunch | Sep 26 21:50 | |
| DaemonFC | I commented: | Sep 26 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has ruined both brands. Their Yoga PCs are a complete disgrace. IBM never would have locked Linux out of their Thinkpad lineup they way that Lenovo conspired with Microsoft to do with their laptops. Lenovo has developed a reputation for themselves as the company of Superfish and the BIOS that reinstalled crapware over and over. Their stock is down 2/3rds from last year. You'd have about 35 cents left for every dollar you invested in | Sep 26 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | it. People are onto them. Microsoft has dug into Lenovo like a predatory wasp taking over an ant and forcing it back to the nest to lay its eggs. I'm not surprised about what is going on with Motorola at all. | Sep 26 21:51 |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-78-151-242-11.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:01 | |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-84-13-235-233.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:05 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 26 22:08 | |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-78-151-242-106.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:10 | |
| <--arossdotme-planb has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 26 22:12 | |
| -->kyrios (~quassel@adsl-88.37.6.9.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:12 | |
| <--KyriosBrastianos has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 26 22:13 | |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:13 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 26 22:16 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 26 22:16 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780580201122111488 | Sep 26 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improving Fuzzing Tools for More Efficient Kernel Testing | Sep 26 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ddg1uNUacR (www.linux.com) | Sep 26 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Improving Fuzzing Tools for More Efficient Kernel Testing | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 26 22:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @DCPrinceRoman favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 26 22:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 26 22:22 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I posted the Lenovo problem to bug reports to Ubuntu and Fedora. | Sep 26 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully they can get something worked out. | Sep 26 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully they can get something worked out. | Sep 26 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like that's the one that will be doing the best | Sep 26 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/54nwz0/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 26 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : Android | Sep 26 22:47 | |
| DaemonFC | +20 | Sep 26 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]AmalShookup [+1] [score hidden] 7 minutes ago | Sep 26 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | Can confirm, was one of the engineers impacted :( | Sep 26 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreplied | Sep 26 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | Can you give us any additional information or is this NDA or something? Don't get yourself in trouble though. I hope you find an employer that values you. :( | Sep 26 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Two former Lenovo employees that got their pink slips found my post and commented. | Sep 26 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, from AmalShookup [+1] via /r/Android sent just now | Sep 26 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | show parent | Sep 26 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Not much to add to it really. Just that no management had any input on who was let go, all decisions were made on the vp level. So they had no idea how good or bad the people they made decisions on | Sep 26 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Wow! So the suits just indiscriminately fired people..... That kind of tells us what was going on in there. | Sep 26 23:07 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 26 23:15 |
| schestowitz | just quoted you on a few things | Sep 26 23:15 |
| schestowitz | I just tweeted about the Debates | Sep 26 23:17 |
| schestowitz | and got over 70,000 twitter impressions for it in just 2 hours | Sep 26 23:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kyssa_min_rov/status/780578744356446210 https://twitter.com/kyssa_min_rov/status/780579109697097728 | Sep 26 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kyssa_min_rov: @schestowitz Says another zombie from Hillary Camp none of you can think for yourself @TwitterMoments | Sep 26 23:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kyssa_min_rov: @schestowitz you'll be the first one in line for tax cuts when Trump is president @TwitterMoments | Sep 26 23:19 | |
| schestowitz | I'm not from the US | Sep 26 23:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Helensabin1/status/780585183275737089 | Sep 26 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Helensabin1: @schestowitz @DrJillStein We need TRUMP to bring back jobs, decrease taxes for all, and remove illegals to give jobs to Americans. | Sep 26 23:20 | |
| schestowitz | hehe: https://twitter.com/Crow26Darkness/status/780587525307936770 | Sep 26 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Crow26Darkness: @schestowitz Hillary Clinton is connected to elite families Rothschild & Rockefeller families. Hillary's BFF is Lynn Forester de Rothschild. | Sep 26 23:20 | |
| schestowitz | those fools who vote for the Establishment parties... bless em | Sep 26 23:20 |
| schestowitz | they think things will improve for the better this way | Sep 26 23:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dukeblu85/status/780591015300300800 https://twitter.com/shawneily/status/780592103034281984 https://twitter.com/bernfor/status/780592246735396864 | Sep 26 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dukeblu85: .@schestowitz @wikileaks Look up definition of "straw man", dope. | Sep 26 23:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@shawneily: @schestowitz @wikileaks Or she is a felon and should be held accountable??!?!...... Idiot. | Sep 26 23:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bernfor: @schestowitz @wikileaks Wrong. Her paid trolls swarm these tweets. | Sep 26 23:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jayviemortel1/status/780595896178253824 | Sep 26 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jayviemortel1: Damn. https://t.co/PBrHVMGxKr | Sep 26 23:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #clinton who uses #microsoft #windows with back doors for top secret stuff? https://t.co/1wB4Y0qrnz | Sep 26 23:22 | |
| schestowitz | very inane comments | Sep 26 23:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sda729/status/780597072093257728 https://twitter.com/connienovak1972/status/780597134081060864 | Sep 26 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sda729: @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS #GlobalDemilitarization | Sep 26 23:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@connienovak1972: @schestowitz @DrJillStein thank you! I thought I was the only one who thinks this is a concern! We are swallowing up the earth w/out regard | Sep 26 23:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PeterPyke/status/780598883076276224 | Sep 26 23:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PeterPyke: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Yes. | Sep 26 23:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/780599779873198080 | Sep 26 23:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz @wikileaks This was mud fight. One reveled in it, the other pretended she was above it. Both came out mud-covered! | Sep 26 23:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MrFredLexow/status/780600368149499904 https://twitter.com/GoldenOxen/status/780600740288921603 | Sep 26 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MrFredLexow: @schestowitz @wikileaks good point | Sep 26 23:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GoldenOxen: @schestowitz @wikileaks I was disappointed. | Sep 26 23:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AngelP143/status/780603083692896257 | Sep 26 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AngelP143: Hell No.He doesn't have 2 release. I hope he doesn't share & bleach bits records. Hill CRIMINALLY deleted & used bl… https://t.co/yyQxd7ngM3 | Sep 26 23:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AngelP143: Hell No.He doesn't have 2 release. I hope he doesn't share & bleach bits records. Hill CRIMINALLY deleted & used bl… https://t.co/yyQxd7ngM3 | Sep 26 23:24 | |
| <--arossdotme-planb has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 26 23:26 | |
| cubexyz | ok, first part of conversion from 720p is done... it took 36 hours | Sep 26 23:36 |
| cubexyz | probably another 12 hours for part 2 | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Hillary went on Between Two Ferns. | Sep 27 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | This election is more like Between Two Felons | Sep 27 00:03 |
| cubexyz | Feel the Bern! :) | Sep 27 00:06 |
| <--dblaber has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 00:07 | |
| cubexyz | or not | Sep 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.itwire.com/home-it/74935-veteran-windows-journo-slams-microsoft-over-surface-pro-issues.html | Sep 27 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Veteran Windows journo slams Microsoft over Surface Pro issues | Sep 27 00:12 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Could be Microsoft's old tactic of breaking old products to prod people to upgrade, but I doubt it. These are only a little under 2 years old. | Sep 27 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/54owyb/ed_bott_shame_on_microsoft_for_leaving_surface/ | Sep 27 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Ed Bott: Shame on Microsoft for Leaving Surface Pro (3) Customers in the Dark (about severe battery drain issue) : Surface | Sep 27 00:22 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 00:24 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-091-096-238-183.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 00:26 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, | Sep 27 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 27 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | The open source community will probably keep the Moto phones going for a long time with unofficial ROMs regardless of what LOL NO VO does with Motorola now that they have fired everyone. | Sep 27 00:35 |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 00:45 | |
| cubexyz | just say no to lenovo :) | Sep 27 01:04 |
| cubexyz | Surface Pro isn't even on the radar | Sep 27 01:05 |
| cubexyz | you do _not_ want a computer completely designed by Microsoft | Sep 27 01:06 |
| cubexyz | I don't feel to favourable towards AMI either | Sep 27 01:07 |
| cubexyz | s/to/too/ | Sep 27 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://redmondmag.com/articles/2016/10/01/surface-pro-customers-in-the-dark.aspx | Sep 27 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shame on Microsoft for Leaving Surface Pro Customers in the Dark -- Redmondmag.com | Sep 27 01:09 | |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Looks like I could have done worse. MS pushed out a broken update to the Surface Pro 3 that reduced runtime on a charge from 6 hours to 20-30 minutes. | Sep 27 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | And the support forum post grew to 100 pages and MS has barely acknowledged it. | Sep 27 01:10 |
| cubexyz | don't buy surface pro for sure... you're sending $$$ to M$ | Sep 27 01:13 |
| cubexyz | unless you get one for free or something | Sep 27 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz schestowitz from what I hear now, the Surface Pro 3 battery issue was because there were two suppliers for the battery. When MS issued the patch for the first one, it screwed up the other one. | Sep 27 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Lenovo stock was a in a fall until they announced the sackings from Motorola. | Sep 27 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | Gotta wonder about the timing | Sep 27 01:20 |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 01:20 | |
| cubexyz | people aren't buying computers as often | Sep 27 01:21 |
| cubexyz | 52 week range is $11.31 to $22.44 | Sep 27 01:25 |
| cubexyz | currently at $13.10 US | Sep 27 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, It stopped the freefall and returned it to where it was before the Linux stories started sinking in. | Sep 27 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | People don't buy computers as often because they aren't getting faster at the same rate that they used to. | Sep 27 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | gr | Sep 27 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/26/openssl_patches_last_weeks_patch/ | Sep 27 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Patch AGAIN: OpenSSL security fixes now need their own security fixes • The Register | Sep 27 01:40 | |
| DaemonFC | Too many programs still using this. LibreSSL is looking a lot better. | Sep 27 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Embarrassing enough that trolls and clueless news sites say that every bug that happens in an open source project is a "Linux bug". | Sep 27 01:45 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 01:46 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Quit: Leaving...) | Sep 27 02:05 | |
| DaemonFC | The Moto M will launch with Microsoft crapware. | Sep 27 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/54pdkr/microsoft_and_lenovo_sign_patent_licensing_deal/ | Sep 27 02:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft and Lenovo sign "patent licensing" deal that involves pre-installing Microsoft bloatware on future Lenovo phones. [x-post from /r/android] : technology | Sep 27 02:47 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 03:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/780670420462759936 | Sep 27 03:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, | Sep 27 03:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk Updated Drivers https://t.co/8O2M8AdTgr | Sep 27 03:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 03:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 03:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 03:28 | |
| schestowitz | [07:47] <DaemonFC> https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/54pdkr/microsoft_and_lenovo_sign_patent_licensing_deal/ | Sep 27 05:04 |
| schestowitz | Is this news? | Sep 27 05:04 |
| schestowitz | I can't see a link | Sep 27 05:04 |
| schestowitz | it's self referential | Sep 27 05:05 |
| schestowitz | Oh, a month ago | Sep 27 05:05 |
| schestowitz | https://news.microsoft.com/2016/08/22/lenovo-and-microsoft-deepen-strategic-ties-across-devices/ | Sep 27 05:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.microsoft.com | Lenovo and Microsoft deepen strategic ties across devices | News Center | Sep 27 05:05 | |
| schestowitz | Did I miss it? Let me check... | Sep 27 05:06 |
| schestowitz | Ah, I did cover it | Sep 27 05:06 |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 05:08 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-253-216.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 05:08 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/02/20/lenovo-superfish/ http://techrights.org/2007/05/12/lenovo-novell/ http://techrights.org/2008/01/15/samsung-patent-lenovo-sled/ http://techrights.org/2015/08/13/lenovo-scapegoating/ | Sep 27 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lenovo’s Superfish Scandal is Spyware on Top of Spyware (Microsoft Windows), the Problem is Inherently Proprietary Software | Techrights | Sep 27 05:08 | |
| schestowitz | and lastly: http://techrights.org/2016/08/23/microsoft-extorts-lenovo-and-motorola/ | Sep 27 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Does the Lenovo-Microsoft Deal Affect Novell’s SUSE? | Techrights | Sep 27 05:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Samsung is Down, Lenovo Disappoints with ‘Microsoft Tax’ | Techrights | Sep 27 05:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Peter Writes About Malicious Microsoft Antifeatures, Tries to Blame Lenovo and Succeeds | Techrights | Sep 27 05:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Gives Microsoft (Paid-for) Keynote Position While Microsoft Extorts (With Patents) Lenovo and Motorola Over Linux Use | Techrights | Sep 27 05:09 | |
| cubexyz | M$ can't beat Google | Sep 27 05:15 |
| cubexyz | chromebook + coreboot == MIcrosoft defeat | Sep 27 05:16 |
| cubexyz | and tons of people loath windows 10 | Sep 27 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/780670436816351232 | Sep 27 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest | Sep 27 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk OpenSSL Vulnerabilities https://t.co/sNTS65Om9v | Sep 27 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 05:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest OpenSSL Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines | Sep 27 05:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780699849989689344 | Sep 27 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux State Of AMD's Zen x86 Memory Encryption | Sep 27 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8YZ14IP38A (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 27 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 05:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Linux State Of AMD's Zen x86 Memory Encryption - Phoronix | Sep 27 05:26 | |
| <--kyrios has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 05:26 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 05:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'The Linux State Of AMD's Zen x86 Memory...' | Sep 27 05:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780700184414130176 | Sep 27 05:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | XOrg's GLAMOR 2D Performance Continues To Be Tuned | Sep 27 05:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uKVSLeinfR (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 27 05:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 05:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-X.Org's GLAMOR 2D Performance Continues To Be Tuned - Phoronix | Sep 27 05:30 | |
| Tervy | not sure if this has been posted yet or if the site is trustworthy but .. https://techraptor.net/content/youtube-changes-youtube-heroes-video-stealthily any opinions from this (i might be late for these news) | Sep 27 05:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techraptor.net | YouTube Changes YouTube Heroes Video Stealthily - TechRaptor | Sep 27 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780701171371667456 | Sep 27 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 26 Linux OS to Ship with OpenSSL 1.1.0 by Default | Sep 27 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Better Security https://t.co/HKL0FB0FbG | Sep 27 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 27 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 26 Linux OS to Ship with OpenSSL 1.1.0 by Default for Better Security | Sep 27 05:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780702644977471488 | Sep 27 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 6 open source fitness apps for Android | Sep 27 05:37 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: true... | Sep 27 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BvzZote5rD (opensource.com) "all licensed | Sep 27 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | under the GPLv3" | Sep 27 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 open source fitness apps for Android | Opensource.com | Sep 27 05:37 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: now they mix chromos with android, reportedly | Sep 27 05:37 |
| schestowitz | they call it "andromeda | Sep 27 05:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TrainWithPj favourited '6 open source fitness apps for Android ...' | Sep 27 05:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780703521784168448 | Sep 27 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Aaeon’s Linux-friendly “EMB-Q170C” Mini-ITX board..." | Sep 27 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NsBt1Nn7aV (hackerboards.com) | Sep 27 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 05:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | NAS-targeted Skylake Mini-ITX loads up on SATA, GbE, PCIe | Sep 27 05:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780703810595553280 | Sep 27 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open | Sep 27 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | design https://t.co/i93ZhzJNJD (hackerboards.com) | Sep 27 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 05:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open design | Sep 27 05:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780705314698104832 | Sep 27 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 https://t.co/186yrssEcn | Sep 27 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (nwrickert2.wordpress.com) | Sep 27 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 05:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 26 Linux OS to Ship with OpenSSL...' | Sep 27 05:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nwrickert2.wordpress.com | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 | Thoughts on computing | Sep 27 05:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780705967021449216 | Sep 27 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0 https://t.co/6Uxq3X9h6L | Sep 27 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (distrowatch.com) | Sep 27 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 06:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Sep 27 06:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719962151276544 | Sep 27 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/8JsLDpudAn | Sep 27 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 06:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 06:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719963254300673 | Sep 27 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open | Sep 27 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | design https://t.co/nBC1b1sefz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 06:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 06:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open design | Tux Machines | Sep 27 06:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719964239958017 | Sep 27 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unimpressive Yakkety Yak, Plasma 5 Issues in Leap | Sep 27 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JueBnAc6Nz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 07:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unimpressive Yakkety Yak, Plasma 5 Issues in Leap | Tux Machines | Sep 27 07:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719965259206657 | Sep 27 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 | Sep 27 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tEqFCbuAMu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 07:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 | Tux Machines | Sep 27 07:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719966358077442 | Sep 27 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0 https://t.co/81tMXuT5uY | Sep 27 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 07:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0 | Tux Machines | Sep 27 07:18 | |
| cubexyz | a 4+ hour 720p video doesn't fit on a DVD | Sep 27 07:39 |
| cubexyz | not too surprising really | Sep 27 07:39 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 07:44 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 27 07:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736447577935872 | Sep 27 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GE, Bosch and open source could bring more IoT tools | Sep 27 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Jx1yr4E79d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 07:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GE, Bosch and open source could bring more IoT tools | Tux Machines | Sep 27 07:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736449389801472 | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Red Hat is making money on the public cloud with a | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | hybrid approach https://t.co/0VH2CKRkvH | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 07:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Red Hat is making money on the public cloud with a hybrid approach | Tux Machines | Sep 27 07:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736450656477186 | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone https://t.co/1KLivnLUJE | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 07:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone | Tux Machines | Sep 27 07:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736452313223168 | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A quick introduction to Audacity for teachers | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SJFEQVPGAS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 07:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A quick introduction to Audacity for teachers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 07:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736453428948992 | Sep 27 07:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LLVM News https://t.co/1p7lKemkvx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 07:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 07:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM News | Tux Machines | Sep 27 07:57 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 07:59 | |
| <--sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 08:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780738186158956544 | Sep 27 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 27/9/2016: Lenovo Layoffs, OPNFV Third Software | Sep 27 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release https://t.co/k8vmmHz2zE (techrights.org) | Sep 27 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 08:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/9/2016: Lenovo Layoffs, OPNFV Third Software Release | Techrights | Sep 27 08:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780740260628144128 | Sep 27 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 25 Alpha and processing. https://t.co/QgkusVx908 | Sep 27 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (catalin-festila.blogspot.com) | Sep 27 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 08:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-catalin-festila.blogspot.com | About me and my life ...: Fedora 25 Alpha and processing. | Sep 27 08:06 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 08:06 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 08:06 | |
| -->sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 08:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/780740268844847104 | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 27/9/2016: Lenovo Layoffs, OPNFV Third Software | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Release https://t.co/k8vmmHz2zE (techrights.org) | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 08:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780740547346563072 | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chrome for Android will let you download entire web pages | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and use less data for video https://t.co/3uplMG9xqN | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 08:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Chrome for Android will let you download entire web pages and use less data for video - The Verge | Sep 27 08:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780740773637750784 | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BlackBerry's Unannounced DTEK60 Android Smartphone | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Surfaced In FCC Filing https://t.co/Af8nREWwEI | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.ibtimes.com) | Sep 27 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 08:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | BlackBerry's Unannounced DTEK60 Android Smartphone Surfaced In FCC Filing | Sep 27 08:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/grautone/status/780748865217495040 | Sep 27 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@grautone: @schestowitz because Libs & Greens lack the 15% of vote to be considered legitimate contenders. | Sep 27 08:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/780754480035991552 | Sep 27 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz @SiliconANGLE what a pile of bs. With Hadoop, Spark etc open source is doing great. Maybe it's just hard to keep up? | Sep 27 09:05 | |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 09:08 | |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 09:17 | |
| <--arossdotme-planb has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 09:18 | |
| -->daemol (~daemol@117.196.154.1) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 09:34 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 09:49 | |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 11:07 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 27 11:08 |
| schestowitz | hi | Sep 27 11:11 |
| MinceR | http://boingboing.net/2016/09/26/demand-that-hp-make-amends-for.html | Sep 27 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Demand that HP make amends for its self-destructing printers [SIGN AND SHARE!] / Boing Boing | Sep 27 11:13 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | schestowitzr razielle_tzu MinceR my Tizen R 1 has come | Sep 27 11:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Z 1 | Sep 27 11:13 |
| MinceR | 27 113749 < schestowitz> they call it "andromeda | Sep 27 11:13 |
| MinceR | the andromeda strain? :> | Sep 27 11:13 |
| MinceR | SebthreeBQM10HD: my condolences | Sep 27 11:14 |
| MinceR | won't be nice when your calls get dropped because of systemd or kdbus :> | Sep 27 11:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | MinceR, they use system d ? | Sep 27 11:14 |
| MinceR | afaik tizen uses both | Sep 27 11:15 |
| MinceR | probably pulseaudio too | Sep 27 11:15 |
| MinceR | but if it gives you a shell, you can probably find out | Sep 27 11:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | uhmm most distors use pulse audio | Sep 27 11:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 27 11:15 |
| MinceR | and so they all get the problems with it | Sep 27 11:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | system d work fine or me on things I ussed it | Sep 27 11:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and pus audio has been fine since some itme after 2008 or mostly | Sep 27 11:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's what some of them say | Sep 27 11:16 |
| MinceR | others explain the weird ways it fucks up things | Sep 27 11:16 |
| cubexyz | I got a room full of non-pulseaudio machines :) | Sep 27 11:16 |
| cubexyz | get that Sun working and you'll have one too | Sep 27 11:18 |
| cubexyz | did you know that netconfig will clobber /etc/hosts? Very annoying | Sep 27 11:20 |
| cubexyz | overwrote /etc/resolv.conf also | Sep 27 11:22 |
| -->tyreld (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 11:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Libby_Weed/status/780787188157984768 | Sep 27 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Libby_Weed: @schestowitz @wikileaks Jill Stein is a better option | Sep 27 11:27 | |
| cubexyz | learned a bit about dhcpcd today | Sep 27 12:00 |
| cubexyz | DHCP client daemon | Sep 27 12:00 |
| cubexyz | not actually sure how quasijarus does it | Sep 27 12:05 |
| cubexyz | on FC1 it's different also... it uses dhclient | Sep 27 12:14 |
| cubexyz | old(ish) openbsd is the same | Sep 27 12:15 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/XQ0Xy | Sep 27 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best tweet so far of this debate night - Album on Imgur | Sep 27 12:17 | |
| XRevan86 | debate night? | Sep 27 12:18 |
| cubexyz | :) | Sep 27 12:19 |
| MinceR | the candidates of the two arms of the Megacorporate Party debated yesterday, i think | Sep 27 12:19 |
| XRevan86 | But there are four candidates. | Sep 27 12:20 |
| MinceR | probably more | Sep 27 12:20 |
| MinceR | but those are not from the Megacorporate Party | Sep 27 12:20 |
| cubexyz | so just trump and clinton and no one else? | Sep 27 12:20 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016 | Sep 27 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United States presidential election, 2016 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 27 12:20 | |
| XRevan86 | five* | Sep 27 12:20 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 27 12:20 |
| XRevan86 | six* | Sep 27 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | overlooked the sixth | Sep 27 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | Is that even legal? Making presidential debates but exclusive? | Sep 27 12:21 |
| cubexyz | I think it goes all the way back to Nixon vs Kennedy | Sep 27 12:22 |
| cubexyz | if I recall correctly | Sep 27 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Democracy, is in fact, FAKE/Democracy, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, FAKE plus Democracy. | Sep 27 12:27 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 12:31 | |
| -->Cookie`_ (~cookie@4.86.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:34 | |
| <--Cookie` has quit (Disconnected by services) | Sep 27 12:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/robinforsenator/status/780806272350388224 | Sep 27 12:36 |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--Researcher- has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| -->Firre (~Firee@a91-156-174-20.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--daemol has quit (Ping timeout: 273 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--tyreld has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--cmdshftn_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| -->schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| -->sheepbat (~lev3k@149.255.33.155) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:37 | |
| <--Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| -->acer-box__ (~acer-box@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| -->Researcher-- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| -->amarsh04_ (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| <--MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| <--acer-box__ has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| -->acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-253-216.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| ---Firre is now known as Firee | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| <--Tervy has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| <--acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| ---Researcher-- is now known as Researcher- | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| <--balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| -->MinceR (~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/robinforsenator/status/780806272350388224 | Sep 27 12:38 |
| -->balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:40 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 12:41 | |
| <--razielle_tzu has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 12:41 | |
| -->razielle_tzu (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:41 | |
| -->TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@mail.copilotco.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Sep 27 12:41 |
| ---razielle_tzu is now known as Guest9267 | Sep 27 12:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/robinforsenator/status/780806272350388224 | Sep 27 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@robinforsenator: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @ArnMenconi Gratitude. This is an international movement! Please DM me so we can connect our dots across the pond. | Sep 27 12:41 | |
| ---Guest9267 is now known as raziel_tzu | Sep 27 12:42 | |
| -->daemol (~daemol@117.196.154.1) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:42 | |
| -->Tervy (Tervy@laamaperhe.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:43 | |
| -->MarkBilk_ (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:44 | |
| -->Cookie` (~cookie@4.86.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:45 | |
| <--Cookie` has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 12:45 | |
| -->Cookie` (~cookie@hpavc/Cookie) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:45 | |
| <--Cookie`_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | Sep 27 12:45 | |
| -->acer-box____ (~acer-box@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| <--acer-box____ has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| -->acer-box____ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| -->amarsh04__ (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| cubexyz | ah now it's clearer... dhcp didn't arrive until 1993 | Sep 27 12:47 |
| cubexyz | so 4.3BSD would have been pre-dhcp era | Sep 27 12:47 |
| <--sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| <--schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| <--Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| -->balrog_ (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:47 | |
| <--TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| <--MarkBilk has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| <--balrog has quit (Excess Flood) | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| <--raziel_tzu has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| -->Firre (~Firee@a91-156-174-20.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| <--amarsh04_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| <--acer-box__ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| ---Firre is now known as Firee | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| -->XFaCE (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:48 | |
| r_schestowitz | test | Sep 27 12:49 |
| -->razielle_tzu_ (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:50 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:50 | |
| -->tyreld (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:50 | |
| ---razielle_tzu_ is now known as raziel_tzu | Sep 27 12:50 | |
| ---balrog_ is now known as balrog | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| -->schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | [17:41] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/robinforsenator/status/780806272350388224 | Sep 27 12:52 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:47] <cubexyz> ah now it's clearer... dhcp didn't arrive until 1993 | Sep 27 12:52 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:47] <cubexyz> so 4.3BSD would have been pre-dhcp era | Sep 27 12:52 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:49] <r_schestowitz> test | Sep 27 12:52 |
| r_schestowitz | DDOS again, I guess | Sep 27 12:52 |
| r_schestowitz | so better not say anything till it's over | Sep 27 12:52 |
| -->sheepbat (~lev3k@149.255.33.155) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:54 | |
| <--schestowitz_log has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 27 12:54 | |
| -->schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:54 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:54 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:56 | |
| -->Firre (~Firee@a91-156-174-20.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:08 | |
| -->acer-box______ (~acer-box@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:10 | |
| <--acer-box______ has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 13:10 | |
| -->acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:10 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--acer-box____ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| -->cmdshftn_ (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--amarsh04__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-253-216.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--raziel_tzu has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 13:11 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 13:12 | |
| <--tyreld has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 13:12 | |
| ---Firre is now known as Firee | Sep 27 13:12 | |
| -->schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:12 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:12 | |
| <--daemol has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 13:12 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:14 | |
| -->TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@mail.copilotco.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Sep 27 13:14 |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:17 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 13:21 | |
| <--cmdshftn_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 13:21 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 13:21 | |
| <--XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 13:22 | |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 13:22 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 13:22 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:22 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:23 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:23 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780809722962337792 | Sep 27 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/eBQjQRm6Dj | Sep 27 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 27 13:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/eBQjQRm6Dj' | Sep 27 13:25 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-253-216.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:28 | |
| -->XFaCE (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:29 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:32 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 13:32 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:32 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 13:32 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 13:33 | |
| <--sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 13:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | still ddos... | Sep 27 13:33 |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 13:34 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:34 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/26/video-claiming-drilling-into-iphone-7-reveal-hidden-headphone-port-goes-viral | Sep 27 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Video claiming drilling into iPhone 7 will reveal hidden headphone port goes viral | Technology | The Guardian | Sep 27 13:37 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: ^ | Sep 27 13:37 |
| -->sheepbat (~lev3k@149.255.33.155) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:38 | |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 27 13:40 |
| r_schestowitz | old: | Sep 27 13:41 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.gnupg.org/faq/gnupg-faq.html#please_use_ecc | Sep 27 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnupg.org | GnuPG Frequently Asked Questions | Sep 27 13:41 | |
| <--Emchan has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 14:01 | |
| -->razielle_tzu (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:01 | |
| ---razielle_tzu is now known as Guest39926 | Sep 27 14:01 | |
| ---Guest39926 is now known as raziel_tzu | Sep 27 14:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: I think you gave me a link about it before | Sep 27 14:06 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 27 14:07 |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 14:10 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 14:10 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tqH-Un9SFU | Sep 27 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 - YouTube | Sep 27 14:10 | |
| <--Researcher- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 14:11 | |
| -->Researcher- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:11 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:13 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780830419096920064 | Sep 27 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu’s OpenStack on IBM’s Big Iron | Sep 27 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JQoM3L2dR0 (windowsitpro.com) | Sep 27 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | Ubuntu’s OpenStack on IBM’s Big Iron | Cloud content from Windows IT Pro | Sep 27 14:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780831848310181889 | Sep 27 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unsafe at any clock speed: Linux kernel security needs a | Sep 27 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rethink https://t.co/6iW9nsdYcy (arstechnica.co.uk) | Sep 27 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Unsafe at any clock speed: Linux kernel security needs a rethink | Ars Technica UK | Sep 27 14:16 | |
| -->Researcher-- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:21 | |
| <--Researcher- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 14:21 | |
| ---Researcher-- is now known as Researcher- | Sep 27 14:21 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DeadlinesDirect/status/780821673213779968 | Sep 27 14:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780833432670707712 | Sep 27 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DeadlinesDirect: #Finland makes a push for military intel meta data laws, looks like European trend 2day?! #Switzerland #nsa #privacy https://t.co/kpcivqPmTT | Sep 27 14:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent | Sep 27 14:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone https://t.co/B2cISEj8pt | Sep 27 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Military pressing for broader surveillance mandate https://t.co/JKjAc10REj will finland use #russia and #putin to sell this? | Sep 27 14:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 27 14:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone | Sep 27 14:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780833635029118977 | Sep 27 14:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 24 -- The Best Distro for DevOps? | Sep 27 14:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7MdEfbF9PO (www.linux.com) | Sep 27 14:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 -- The Best Distro for DevOps? | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 27 14:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780834185472724993 | Sep 27 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Open Source Hardware for Surveillance of Things | Sep 27 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WVpZCZZA6B (www.linux.com) | Sep 27 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux and Open Source Hardware for IoT | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 27 14:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780835342245097475 | Sep 27 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio | Sep 27 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘revolution’ https://t.co/wsDXqrK3Ar | Sep 27 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 27 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio ‘revolution’ • The Register | Sep 27 14:25 | |
| MinceR | The Best Distro For Buzzword(tm)! | Sep 27 14:27 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 14:29 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:30 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/WyGFMNi.gifv | Sep 27 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Sep 27 14:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent...' | Sep 27 14:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780836788663414784 | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Farabel', a turn based strategy game is officially | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | coming to Linux after a days work https://t.co/u5knZtHwGK | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 27 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/farabel-a-turn-based-strategy-game-is-officially-coming-to-linux-after-a-days-work.8184 ) | Sep 27 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780837012836323330 | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | -The Talos Principle now renders correctly in 'radv', the | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source AMD Vulkan driver https://t.co/brD5zjmCr8 | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 27 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-talos-principle-now-renders-correctly-in-radv-the-open-source-amd-vulkan-driver.8186 ) | Sep 27 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780837650475417600 | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | There Are Around 2,000 Steam Linux Games Available | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NHrizuACTC (www.phoronix.com) S2,500? | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hp89IDGhYD (error) | Sep 27 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-There Are Around 2,000 Steam Linux Games Available - Phoronix | Sep 27 14:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/steam-now-has-above-2500-linux-steamos-games-available.8188 ) | Sep 27 14:43 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/g7msfQB.png | Sep 27 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840317595553792 | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proxmox VE 4.3 released https://t.co/bV5C5PDqkP | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.proxmox.com) | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proxmox VE 4.3 released | Sep 27 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840821629284352 | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Free Today: September Issue of Linux Journal (Retail | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | value: $5.99) https://t.co/J1pABA6unB | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Free Today: September Issue of Linux Journal (Retail value: $5.99) | Linux Journal | Sep 27 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840972993253376 | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | nginx https://t.co/Sjxy3xVrya (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | nginx | Tux Machines | Sep 27 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840974020784128 | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘revolution’ https://t.co/HLY3VT6Jqz | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 14:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio ‘revolution’ | Tux Machines | Sep 27 14:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: context? | Sep 27 14:46 |
| MinceR | there's not much of it | Sep 27 14:47 |
| MinceR | it's a navigation thing between pages of some website | Sep 27 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840975664943104 | Sep 27 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/3HRIbyFJ6A | Sep 27 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 15:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840976696811520 | Sep 27 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/S5PZxFf2qD | Sep 27 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 15:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840977984425985 | Sep 27 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proxmox VE 4.3 released https://t.co/qTWu617pDe | Sep 27 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 15:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 27 15:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 27 15:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE 4.3 released | Tux Machines | Sep 27 15:12 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/jlA04Zn | Sep 27 15:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yes I'd like 0 of your finest cases. - Imgur | Sep 27 15:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nebrgenius/status/780847676690567168 | Sep 27 15:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nebrgenius: Me. https://t.co/dV9Grb3rgj | Sep 27 15:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks Missing options; who was impressed by neither? | Sep 27 15:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: cheers | Sep 27 15:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 27 15:22 |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 15:27 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:27 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 15:27 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:30 | |
| <--localh0st has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 15:34 | |
| -->localh0st (~lclhst@s5.linuxpl.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:35 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 15:35 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 15:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/QI79z | Sep 27 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It takes a great comedian to make a well-crafted accurate science joke. - Album on Imgur | Sep 27 15:36 | |
| <--cubexyz has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 15:36 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:36 | |
| -->cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:36 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@107.170.171.17) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:37 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 15:37 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@unaffiliated/mrpps) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:37 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This should be obvious. | Sep 27 15:40 |
| <--MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 15:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DeadSuperHero/status/780854756528926720 | Sep 27 15:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DeadSuperHero: @schestowitz Doug Stanhope is a god in human form. | Sep 27 15:42 | |
| -->MinceR (~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:42 | |
| -->dipper_s_ (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:43 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 15:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/DeadSuperHero/status/780854756528926720 | Sep 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 27 15:44 |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 15:44 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 15:45 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:45 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Excess Flood) | Sep 27 15:45 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@107.170.171.17) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:46 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 15:46 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@unaffiliated/mrpps) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:46 | |
| <--dipper_s_ has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 27 15:46 | |
| MinceR | http://p.coldline.hu/2016/09/27/2339849-20160927-phbXpP.png | Sep 27 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'p.coldline.hu' ( status 0 @ http://p.coldline.hu/2016/09/27/2339849-20160927-phbXpP.png ) | Sep 27 15:47 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 15:48 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/1mJuStSay1nG/status/780859803509858304 | Sep 27 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@1mJuStSay1nG: @schestowitz @rozmcdermott Next it's the SYD (The Screw You Deal) | Sep 27 16:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/780859999241248768 | Sep 27 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @ArsTechnicaUK @GlynnMoody too bad you did not mention Stjerna paper. And Council meeting in 2 days. | Sep 27 16:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | You mean Glyn, right? As I did mention the paper twice... | Sep 27 16:02 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: good one | Sep 27 16:04 |
| ---raziel_tzu is now known as razielle_tzu | Sep 27 16:04 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:16 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/wMzYsfE.gifv | Sep 27 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Sep 27 16:20 | |
| <--ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 16:22 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 16:23 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 16:23 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 16:23 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:23 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, | Sep 27 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo forum mods | Sep 27 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | from mardward2015 sent 12 hours ago | Sep 27 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | I think there is definitely a Microsoft / Lenovo conspiracy. One of the mods who are removing and editing unwanted posts on Lenovo forum ( username - Bugbatter ) has a MVP logo sign next to his name - Microsoft Most Valued Professional. From a MS official site: " the Microsoft MVP Award is our way of saying Thanks! to outstanding community leaders" , " They also have a very close relationship with | Sep 27 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | the local Microsoft teams in their area, who are there to support and empower MVPs to address needs and opportunities in the local ecosystem." etc. Basically a Microsoft shill | Sep 27 16:23 |
| -->ohama (ohama@cicolina.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:23 | |
| DaemonFC | re: Lenovo forum mods | Sep 27 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | to mardward2015 sent just now | Sep 27 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, I pointed that out a few times. I don't believe that any of the mods on LOL NO VO's forums are actually "volunteers". The way they act makes it seem unlikely. | Sep 27 16:23 |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:24 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:26 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 16:32 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 16:33 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 16:33 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 16:33 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:33 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:34 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:36 | |
| <--sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 16:39 | |
| -->sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:39 | |
| <--sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 16:45 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 16:46 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 16:46 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:46 | |
| -->sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:47 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/gLl5pnF | Sep 27 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thanks Cisco (CCP) - Imgur | Sep 27 16:48 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:48 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 17:03 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | hhmmm... daemonfc left | Sep 27 17:27 |
| r_schestowitz | so quickly | Sep 27 17:27 |
| razielle_tzu | was a ping out | Sep 27 17:29 |
| r_schestowitz | hhmmm. | Sep 27 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | I wanted to give him some new info | Sep 27 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/780873564132143104 | Sep 27 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Legal loopholes and wormholes will always be manipulated to favour mega buck multinationals over scientists & innovators | Sep 27 17:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/780873947810263040 | Sep 27 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz TPPA, TTIP, TISA & other toxic trade pacts are designed to deregulate & use copyright to enable global monopolies, oligopolies | Sep 27 17:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/harrjd/status/780874181722406912 | Sep 27 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@harrjd: @schestowitz you think his days are now numbered ref:500 mil yahoo acct | Sep 27 17:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | Stamos | Sep 27 17:31 |
| razielle_tzu | daemon will probbaly check logs when he comes back | Sep 27 17:32 |
| r_schestowitz | he has no passive bot for logging | Sep 27 17:32 |
| r_schestowitz | and I don't publish logs for a while... will do soon, I hope, because I don't want to help the EPO spy on people | Sep 27 17:33 |
| razielle_tzu | ah | Sep 27 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Researcher- might be a spy | Sep 27 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | never replies to anything, stalks all channels | Sep 27 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | even evaded a ban I once put on it (it's a bot) | Sep 27 17:33 |
| razielle_tzu | huh | Sep 27 17:34 |
| razielle_tzu | i'd fill him in but i'm not always online even though my core is always connected | Sep 27 17:34 |
| -->tst_ (6d4e2761@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.78.39.97) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:50 | |
| tst_ | help | Sep 27 17:50 |
| razielle_tzu | with? bear in mind we're not a help channel | Sep 27 17:51 |
| <--tst_ has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 27 17:51 | |
| *razielle_tzu shrugs | Sep 27 17:51 | |
| XRevan86 | That's kinda scary. | Sep 27 17:51 |
| XRevan86 | but mostly shruggish | Sep 27 17:52 |
| MinceR | http://cdn77.eatliver.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/stool-bus.jpg | Sep 27 17:53 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/mpug6 | Sep 27 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Netflix and Array - Album on Imgur | Sep 27 18:08 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/bSdbfrt | Sep 27 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When you snooze an alarm... - Imgur | Sep 27 18:19 | |
| <--localh0st has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 18:38 | |
| -->localh0st (~lclhst@s5.linuxpl.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:38 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 18:50 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:51 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/bRQ77uB.gifv | Sep 27 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Sep 27 18:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mmasnick/status/780888485976641538 | Sep 27 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mmasnick: @schestowitz we've used cloudflare for years. helped us stop a DoS attack a few years ago. | Sep 27 18:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | good to know, I didn't know there was a ddos attack | Sep 27 18:57 |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/XxMikey4PxX/status/780898003511107584 | Sep 27 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@XxMikey4PxX: @schestowitz @wikileaks Clinton takes credit for putting together the coalition. If you cannot blame leadership, who can you blame? | Sep 27 18:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | [22:50] <tst_> help | Sep 27 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | [22:51] <razielle_tzu> with? bear in mind we're not a help channel | Sep 27 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | [22:51] <-- tst_ (6d4e2761@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.78.39.97) has left this server (Client Quit). | Sep 27 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | razielle_tzu: wong answer | Sep 27 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | now he'll commit suicide | Sep 27 18:58 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 27 18:58 |
| razielle_tzu | but it's true | Sep 27 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | yeah, I'm just pulling your leg | Sep 27 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | I cannot imagine going into a channel just to say "help", then leave | Sep 27 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe he needed the manual | Sep 27 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | man man | Sep 27 18:58 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 27 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | he typed help | Sep 27 18:59 |
| r_schestowitz | and it didn't give him command glossary | Sep 27 18:59 |
| razielle_tzu | but help commands require a . or something in front of them if there's a bot in channel | Sep 27 19:00 |
| *razielle_tzu opens a bottle of hobgoblin | Sep 27 19:05 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 27 19:08 | |
| razielle_tzu | r_schestowitz: the twitter bot is down in here now | Sep 27 19:21 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:23 | |
| r_schestowitz | oh dear, I guess it is | Sep 27 19:30 |
| <--vallor_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 19:30 | |
| r_schestowitz | no updare since 8 | Sep 27 19:30 |
| -->vallor (Ponzo@pdpc/supporter/monthlygold/vallor) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:31 | |
| <--vallor has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 27 19:31 | |
| -->vallor (Ponzo@pdpc/supporter/monthlygold/vallor) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:32 | |
| razielle_tzu | sounds about right | Sep 27 19:35 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 27 20:15 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 27 20:33 | |
| -->EdSantos754 (~EdSantos7@bl8-244-176.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:38 | |
| <--EdSantos754 has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 27 20:41 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 20:44 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@107.170.171.17) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@unaffiliated/mrpps) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| -->dblaber (~dmb@pool-71-172-246-73.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780934260114853888 | Sep 27 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/B5vAVLldik (www.96boards.org) goes Cortex-M4 | Sep 27 20:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with IoT Edition and Carbon SBC https://t.co/iOr8cZwRah | Sep 27 20:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 20:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 20:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.96boards.org | 96Boards: 32- and 64-bit ARM Boards | Sep 27 20:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 96Boards.org goes Cortex-M4 with IoT Edition and Carbon SBC | Tux Machines | Sep 27 20:57 | |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:28 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 21:32 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Freenode is having problems today, it seems. | Sep 27 21:53 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah, DDoS | Sep 27 21:53 |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 22:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Has anyone tried KingRoot for Android? | Sep 27 22:36 |
| razielle_tzu | no but i've heard good things | Sep 27 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/54py9y/firefox_os_development_has_ceased/ | Sep 27 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Firefox OS development has ceased : firefox | Sep 27 22:42 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 27 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | e10s development should cease as well. | Sep 27 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I want Firefox to use more memory! - said nobody ever. | Sep 27 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I want Firefox to make my computer less responsive! -said nobody ever. | Sep 27 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I want Firefox to break tons of extensions! -said nobody ever. | Sep 27 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | The only place I still use Firefox as my main browser is Android, because Google won't allow ad blockers in Chrome. Mozilla has been deteriorating as an organization and Firefox as a product for years. | Sep 27 22:44 |
| razielle_tzu | i haven't used firefox in about three years | Sep 27 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/54hg61/should_i_forceenable_electrolysis/ | Sep 27 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 27 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should I force-enable Electrolysis? : firefox | Sep 27 22:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Since the only thing that e10s does is make Firefox use more memory and cause the operating system's task scheduler to work less efficiently, I would like an option to force disable it forever. Although I doubt we'll have that choice in the end. | Sep 27 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, The mods on Lenovo Forums are back, including the Microsoft MVP. | Sep 27 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped deleting posts. They've moved the ones that they would have deleted to a "Housekeeping area" now. | Sep 27 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Must have decided that deleting them when people were taking screenshots was too embarassing. | Sep 27 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/m-p/3440365#M8487 | Sep 27 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Re: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID... - Page 31 - Lenovo Community | Sep 27 22:57 | |
| DaemonFC | "Even more amusing is that the mods are back, including the Microsoft MVP, and are sending posts "into the cornfield" now instead of deleting them. | Sep 27 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 27 22:59 | |
| DaemonFC | I guess they got tired of people on other sites taking screenshots of the posts they were deleting and comparing them to the messages the moderators left behind. *sigh* | Sep 27 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 27 22:59 | |
| DaemonFC | Instead of a coverup, it would be nice to have a patch." | Sep 27 22:59 |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 22:59 | |
| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-53-will-drop-support-for-windows-xp-and-windows-vista-508688.shtml | Sep 27 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | Nice | Sep 27 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Firefox 53 Will Drop Support for Windows XP and Windows Vista | Sep 27 23:02 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soj2/should_we_make_an_effort_to_make_hardware_stop/ | Sep 27 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 27 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should we make an effort to make hardware stop claiming to be "Linux Supported!" if it stopped working after a kernel released years ago? : linux | Sep 27 23:08 | |
| DaemonFC | If it's a driver that's not included with the Linux kernel, or even worse, a proprietary driver with only binaries available, expect it to stop working soon. | Sep 27 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | Hardware companies tend to consider a product ancient history by the time it's on store shelves. I had the same experience with an Avermedia TV tuner that claimed to support Linux. I ended up having to have my Media Center on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS until WAY after it was EOL because they never updated the binary-only driver. | Sep 27 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 27 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | Linus Torvalds said that he refuses to "tie his hands" over some binary-only module and that he wants people to know that when they depend on one, it's their own problem. | Sep 27 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's the right position. When you have a stable driver ABI, you end up like Microsoft, where you have several versions of each one in your OS and all having security issues that can't be reliably patched. | Sep 27 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54uahw/linux_laptop_suggestions/ | Sep 27 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux laptop suggestions? : linux | Sep 27 23:18 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point 5 minutes ago* | Sep 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Not the Lenovo Yoga! | Sep 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Get a Dell XPS with similar hardware. They put back AHCI mode in the BIOS when their users complained. Lenovo just released an idiotic PR statement (that the mods and some pro-Microsoft and Linux bashing people on this forum took and ran with) and left their computers broke. | Sep 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Dell has customer service and Lenovo doesn't care about their customers. | Sep 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Only get the Yoga if you don't mind not being able to use an SSD worth hundreds of dollars and plan to install Linux on a Compact Flash card. :P | Sep 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Now the mods on the Lenovo forum are back, including our friend the MS MVP, and they're sending more posts from their unhappy customers to "the cornfield". | Sep 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | This forum is starting to look like Digg, with Linux bashers and Apple/MS fanboys taking over all of the Linux discussions. | Sep 27 23:20 |
| razielle_tzu | it's been heading that way for a while though hasn't it? | Sep 27 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | I hadn't really noticed until the mods started deleting my posts or putting "misleading" on all of them. | Sep 27 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54p0gg/the_us_presidential_candidates_on_technology/ | Sep 27 23:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The U.S. presidential candidates on technology, privacy issues [including use of open source software in government] : linux | Sep 27 23:27 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 27 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Can someone find that video of Hillary Clinton tripping all over herself to figure out what Firefox and open source software were when she was SoS and a federal employee asked her why they had to use Internet Explorer? | Sep 27 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soot/is_linux_that_bad_at_gaming/ | Sep 27 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is Linux That Bad at Gaming? : linux | Sep 27 23:33 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 27 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Wine isn't a terrible option. Many games now support Linux directly on Gog and Steam, and of course you should use a native version whenever possible. I've seen a terrible Linux port once when I bought a Humble Bundle. The offender was Trine, which you could tell was ported by a developer familiar with Windows, because they made a private copy of everything in /lib and /usr/lib (I'm serious.) | Sep 27 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Hundreds of MB of private copies of libs and then one of their private libs actually broke the game on the next Linux distribution releases, so the fix was deleting the lib. Some developers would be better off just using Winelib to do their port if they can't figure out how to do a proper Linux version. | Sep 27 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | I like how easy the PlayOnLinux frontend to Wine is. Makes it really easy, especially if you're not going to by Crossover Gaming (a commercially supported version of Wine). | Sep 27 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, another Humble Bundle game was using Winelib for their Linux port. If you're a developer who won't bother to do Linux right, just use Winelib. | Sep 27 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Looks like Alan Cox just commented on the Lenovo problem. | Sep 27 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | https://plus.google.com/+AlanCoxLinux/posts/QWnM6s2zKWm | Sep 27 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus.google.com | "Unsupported models will rely on Linux operating system vendors releasing new… | Sep 27 23:46 | |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Firefox 52 will be an ESR, so Windows XP users can rrun a supported browser until 2018. | Sep 28 00:12 |
| -->DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 00:15 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 28 00:19 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 00:19 | |
| ---DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Sep 28 00:20 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-255-173.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 00:20 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing that /r/linux has proven for sure this week is that there ought to be a way to flair the moderators as misleading. My god those people are thick. | Sep 28 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | brb shower | Sep 28 00:28 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 00:37 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 00:42 | |
| <--Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 28 01:05 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo turned on comment moderation so nobody can leave an unapproved comment on their forum. | Sep 28 01:06 |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 28 01:27 | |
| r_schestowitz | hi DaemonFC | Sep 28 03:08 |
| r_schestowitz | I was trying to give you some links | Sep 28 03:08 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/02/20/lenovo-superfish/ http://techrights.org/2007/05/12/lenovo-novell/ http://techrights.org/2008/01/15/samsung-patent-lenovo-sled/ http://techrights.org/2015/08/13/lenovo-scapegoating/ | Sep 28 03:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lenovo’s Superfish Scandal is Spyware on Top of Spyware (Microsoft Windows), the Problem is Inherently Proprietary Software | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/psxwi ] | Sep 28 03:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Does the Lenovo-Microsoft Deal Affect Novell’s SUSE? | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/psxwj ] | Sep 28 03:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | more recent and relevant: http://techrights.org/2016/08/23/microsoft-extorts-lenovo-and-motorola/ | Sep 28 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Samsung is Down, Lenovo Disappoints with ‘Microsoft Tax’ | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/psxwk ] | Sep 28 03:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Peter Writes About Malicious Microsoft Antifeatures, Tries to Blame Lenovo and Succeeds | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nfm6l ] | Sep 28 03:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Gives Microsoft (Paid-for) Keynote Position While Microsoft Extorts (With Patents) Lenovo and Motorola Over Linux Use | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/pn3xn ] | Sep 28 03:09 | |
| gde33 | https://rfcx.org/ | Sep 28 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rfcx.org | Rainforest Connection | Protecting rainforests with real-time data | Sep 28 03:14 | |
| gde33 | https://www.the-parallax.com/2016/07/25/hacker-targets-big-pharma-homebrew-meds/ | Sep 28 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.the-parallax.com | Hacker targets Big Pharma with homebrew meds - The Parallax [ http://ur1.ca/pt3zm ] | Sep 28 03:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | [04:46] <DaemonFC> r_schestowitz, Looks like Alan Cox just commented on the Lenovo problem. | Sep 28 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | IIRC he works for Intel | Sep 28 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | so he'd defend this Intel crap | Sep 28 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | Ugh | Sep 28 03:17 |
| r_schestowitz | but after his wife died (IIRC) he stepped out of kernel dev | Sep 28 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://techdows.com/2016/09/firefox-52-mozilla-disables-adobe-primetime-cdm-plugin.html | Sep 28 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Firefox 52: Mozilla disables Adobe Primetime CDM Plugin | Techdows | Sep 28 03:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Firefox 52 will stop installing the CDMs by default. | Sep 28 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | It waits until you come across a DRM video site and asks if you want to enable the DRM. | Sep 28 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it's an improvement, I guess. | Sep 28 03:19 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LiopoldDoron/status/780931434450157568 | Sep 28 03:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LiopoldDoron: Izčrpna kritika fundacije Gates. https://t.co/xnYvZWCaqK | Sep 28 03:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Elon Musk trending. Cult of personalities again. Reminds of me Trump and Clinton as "brands"; also this scum: https://t.co/VlB48Exg46 | Sep 28 03:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- (Re-tweeted by LinuxSocist) | Sep 28 03:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Itzel650 favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 28 03:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 28 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781029361491251200 | Sep 28 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/B5vAVL3CqM (www.96boards.org) goes Cortex-M4 | Sep 28 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with IoT Edition and Carbon SBC https://t.co/8GhJSCSDNE | Sep 28 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (hackerboards.com) | Sep 28 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 03:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.96boards.org | 96Boards: 32- and 64-bit ARM Boards | Sep 28 03:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | 96Boards.org goes Cortex-M4 with IoT Edition and Carbon SBC | Sep 28 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781029599786467328 | Sep 28 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.22 Supports Flatpak Cross-Linux Distribution | Sep 28 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Framework https://t.co/dnYiQzh567 (www.eweek.com) | Sep 28 03:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 03:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | GNOME 3.22 Offers Flatpak Cross-Linux Distribution Framework | Sep 28 03:43 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Alan Cox seems to agree with me. | Sep 28 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | The first thing he said was that the news didn't fact check Lenovo's response very well. | Sep 28 03:43 |
| r_schestowitz | excellent! | Sep 28 03:45 |
| r_schestowitz | Go with it then | Sep 28 03:45 |
| r_schestowitz | go deeper | Sep 28 03:45 |
| r_schestowitz | See what I wrote online about it this morning | Sep 28 03:45 |
| r_schestowitz | I quoted you regarding the MVPs | Sep 28 03:46 |
| r_schestowitz | you need to wait for the AG | Sep 28 03:46 |
| r_schestowitz | see if they can unseal the deal under NDA | Sep 28 03:46 |
| r_schestowitz | Don't give up, it's not over yet, we just have a big pile of lies, like in Superfish | Sep 28 03:46 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: glyn moody RTs the Alan Cox thing | Sep 28 03:51 |
| r_schestowitz | so about 1000 more people will read it | Sep 28 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Wrote about it where? | Sep 28 03:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781036403958378497 | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes from | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 https://t.co/7gOfgKqpPG | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 03:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes from Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 | Sep 28 03:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781037012900020224 | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | September 30, 2016 https://t.co/9njLMDODHs | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 03:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on September 30, 2016 | Sep 28 03:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781038968129413121 | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes from | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 https://t.co/3cng8M1BY2 | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 03:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes from Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 03:53 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: see #boycottnovell-social | Sep 28 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | scroll up a bit | Sep 28 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | you will even see Glyn Moody | Sep 28 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | it's a timeline of activity | Sep 28 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | or you could just check diaspora or twitter | Sep 28 03:57 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: to save you time: https://www.joindiaspora.com/tags/lenovo | Sep 28 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.joindiaspora.com | #lenovo | Sep 28 03:57 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Just to let you know, I may not get my notifcations on time. | Sep 28 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 sometimes delays them for 5-10 minutes from HexChat. I don't know why. | Sep 28 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, https://twitter.com/system76/status/780802047054675968 | Sep 28 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@system76: @rringqvist @nixcraft Unfortunately, the list has Lenovo, and we know how that has turned out. All our machines are born to run #Linux | Sep 28 04:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | ah, Windows... | Sep 28 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | System76 continues to beat Lenovo over the head with this. | Sep 28 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | System76 | Sep 28 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | @system76 | Sep 28 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | @rringqvist @nixcraft Unfortunately, the list has Lenovo, and we know how that has turned out. All our machines are born to run #Linux | Sep 28 04:05 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good! | Sep 28 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | RTd | Sep 28 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | https://twitter.com/system76/status/769204471771631616 | Sep 28 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@system76: @XoaGray @sabledrakon @danskunk problem is for Lenovo #Linux is an afterthought on their laptops. For us it is the PRIORITY. :) | Sep 28 04:06 | |
| DaemonFC | that one was from August. LOL | Sep 28 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | Linux was an afterthought on Lenovo and now it doesn't run at all. | Sep 28 04:07 |
| r_schestowitz | yeah | Sep 28 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer @ZomgPinkPonies now | Sep 28 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | @slashdot You can come to my house and try to install Linux. If you believe Lenovo, I also have the Brooklyn Bridge for sale for two bucks. | Sep 28 04:16 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/780872505531785220 | Sep 28 04:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @fsf @baconandcoconut please clarify on the webpage if travel/hotel costs are covered. | Sep 28 04:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | yes, people take their words at face value | Sep 28 04:17 |
| r_schestowitz | because Big Brand | Sep 28 04:17 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/780884125720907780 | Sep 28 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @MarietjeSchaake @Senficon @communia_eu @LNKalshoven better recordings first. | Sep 28 04:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.inquisitr.com/3545409/was-michael-savage-censored-for-discussing-hillarys-health/ | Sep 28 04:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inquisitr.com | Was Michael Savage Censored For Discussing Hillary’s Health? | Sep 28 04:25 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 04:29 | |
| DaemonFC | In reply to Jan Wildeboer | Sep 28 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer @ZomgPinkPonies 20m20 minutes ago | Sep 28 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | @jwildeboer You can come over to my house and try to install Linux on my Lenovo and prove it isn't blocked. | Sep 28 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | In reply to OMG! UBUNTU! | Sep 28 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer @ZomgPinkPonies 18m18 minutes ago | Sep 28 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | @omgubuntu You can come over and take a look at my BIOS setup screen and try to install Ubuntu on my laptop if you believe Lenovo. | Sep 28 04:31 |
| r_schestowitz | [09:31] <DaemonFC> In reply to OMG! UBUNTU! | Sep 28 04:32 |
| r_schestowitz | The mono fans (back in the days) | Sep 28 04:32 |
| r_schestowitz | Now it's an MS product | Sep 28 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781038970654322688 | Sep 28 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on | Sep 28 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | September 30, 2016 https://t.co/5ve3rInIFL | Sep 28 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 04:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on September 30, 2016 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 04:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781039173872578560 | Sep 28 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta Officially Released with Linux | Sep 28 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.8, Download Now https://t.co/p54vtBhRRk | Sep 28 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 04:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta Officially Released with Linux Kernel 4.8, Download Now | Sep 28 04:52 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Yeah. They haven't banned me from Lenovo's Facebook page yet. | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781053864967561217 | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stylish Markdown Editor ‘Typora’ Is Now Available for | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu https://t.co/WNZhEG9rM8 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Stylish Markdown Editor 'Typora' Is Now Available for Ubuntu - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| DaemonFC | Getting a lot of Likes on there. :) | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055604253089792 | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/p9pukfhE0a | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055605259636736 | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xvOTNuHuXu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users | Tux Machines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055606350196737 | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps https://t.co/TXqj55HYPz | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps | Tux Machines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055607629492224 | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source tools can help small businesses cut costs and | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | save time https://t.co/fLcDKFEOEt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source tools can help small businesses cut costs and save time | Tux Machines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055608841572353 | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Users v Windows Users, Debian Mourns Another | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1tBT0sBBDj (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 04:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Users v Windows Users, Debian Mourns Another | Tux Machines | Sep 28 04:59 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good | Sep 28 05:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @julienbarbier42 favourited 'Stylish Markdown Editor ‘Typora’ Is Now Available for...' | Sep 28 05:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055860059541504 | Sep 28 05:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Project mourns the loss of Kristoffer H. Rose | Sep 28 05:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DrBVOqBTcs (www.debian.org) | Sep 28 05:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 05:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160927 ) | Sep 28 05:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781056195150942208 | Sep 28 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux Setup - Daniel Foré, elementary OS | Sep 28 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SeckhlouDA (www.mylinuxrig.com) | Sep 28 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 05:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com | The Linux Setup - Daniel Foré, elementary OS - My Linux Rig | Sep 28 05:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781056821373112321 | Sep 28 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Avoid the pile-up in 'Clustertruck', a first-person | Sep 28 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | platformer with day-1 Linux support, it's great | Sep 28 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Tjc2hdpMCr (error) | Sep 28 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 05:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/avoid-the-pile-up-in-clustertruck-a-first-person-platformer-with-day-1-linux-support-its-great.8190 ) | Sep 28 05:06 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Sep 28 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781057131688722432 | Sep 28 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Sep 28 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | I've decided to have a digital sit-in on Lenovo's Facebook wall. | Sep 28 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | I will post a message about how they have banned Linux and are an enemy of your freedom every time they post something to their wall until they ban me. | Sep 28 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fusion 3, the next generation game engine and editor from | Sep 28 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Clickteam will support Linux https://t.co/difxHa1d6O | Sep 28 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 28 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/fusion-3-the-next-generation-game-engine-and-editor-from-clickteam-will-support-linux.8192 ) | Sep 28 05:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 05:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781057480994455552 | Sep 28 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users | Sep 28 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/labmsFtIT5 (www.datamation.com) | Sep 28 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 05:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users - Datamation | Sep 28 05:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: what if FB bans you? | Sep 28 05:08 |
| r_schestowitz | (not that I think it's a bad thing) | Sep 28 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I have more than one FB account. | Sep 28 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | I can switch to the other one. | Sep 28 05:10 |
| cubexyz | from a longevity standpoint I can't say that thinkpads were all that great | Sep 28 05:13 |
| cubexyz | IBM R30's had a common problem with CMOS errors and replacing the battery didn't fix it | Sep 28 05:13 |
| cubexyz | also the LCD screen would often deteriorate to the point where you would have trouble using it | Sep 28 05:14 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 28 05:14 | |
| cubexyz | of course, R30 is 2001 era so probably most people wouldn't bother using anything that old | Sep 28 05:15 |
| cubexyz | the Dell Dimension 8200's would overheat to the point where the video card would become damaged | Sep 28 05:17 |
| cubexyz | that's 2002 era | Sep 28 05:18 |
| cubexyz | quite the obsolete clunk now | Sep 28 05:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Penguin___Lover/status/781070957112852480 | Sep 28 06:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Penguin___Lover: @schestowitz, Penguins FTW | Sep 28 06:00 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 06:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781057572472250368 | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps https://t.co/MR1GnYZc1F | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781059474089967616 | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G3GmaZgABf (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 - Phoronix | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781061239187316736 | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux success | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Z5ytenxUJ3 (opensource.com) | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Asian Penguins convert Minnesota school to Linux | Opensource.com | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071729003114496 | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vyWABiQmqF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071730114564096 | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux success | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OH8pHowtTi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux success | Tux Machines | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071731163213824 | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SUSE Chasing Partners https://t.co/ORjCQ02bki | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Chasing Partners | Tux Machines | Sep 28 06:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | dblaber: | Sep 28 06:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Blame Intel if Linux won’t install on your laptop | Sep 28 06:06 |
| r_schestowitz | There’s been a lot of controversy about how some folks can’t get Linux to install on their laptops, and many angry users have been pointing their fingers at Microsoft. But a writer at PCWorld notes that it may be Intel’s fault, not Microsoft’s. | Sep 28 06:06 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 28 06:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Blame Intel if Linux won’t install on your laptop | Sep 28 06:06 |
| r_schestowitz | There’s been a lot of controversy about how some folks can’t get Linux to install on their laptops, and many angry users have been pointing their fingers at Microsoft. But a writer at PCWorld notes that it may be Intel’s fault, not Microsoft’s. | Sep 28 06:06 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 28 06:06 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/article/3123821/linux/why-kid-hackers-should-have-a-linux-computer.html | Sep 28 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why kid hackers should have a Linux computer | InfoWorld | Sep 28 06:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | I meant daemonfc sorry | Sep 28 06:06 |
| r_schestowitz | autocomplete while he's done | Sep 28 06:06 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/781072330080526336 | Sep 28 06:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz As a European, my fear for Trump is much larger than my love for either Sanders or Stein. I hope dncleaks turn out boring again | Sep 28 06:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://fedscoop.com/congressional-blockchain-caucus-mick-mulvaney-jared-polis | Sep 28 06:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedscoop.com | Tech-savvy lawmakers found blockchain caucus | Sep 28 06:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071732425707520 | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Access on the Rise https://t.co/rtdV1FQeFl | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Access on the Rise | Tux Machines | Sep 28 06:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071733684002817 | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS in Networking https://t.co/YRL59v2kLw | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS in Networking | Tux Machines | Sep 28 06:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781076500107976704 | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Onion Creates a $5 Linux Computer with Wi-Fi, Designed | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for IoT Applications https://t.co/MuFqfFgf5I | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.infoq.com) | Sep 28 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Onion Creates a $5 Linux Computer with Wi-Fi, Designed for IoT Applications | Sep 28 06:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781078495594151936 | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.4 https://t.co/tLqiR8Sk2a | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) https://t.co/gxvFL9rMbL (www.infoworld.com) | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.4 « codeblog | Sep 28 06:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the Linux kernel a security problem? | InfoWorld | Sep 28 06:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781079185657921538 | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BlackBerry’s next rumored Android phone, the DTEK60, | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | passed through the FCC https://t.co/HTsjLFS4yr | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Sep 28 06:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | BlackBerry’s next rumored Android phone, the DTEK60, passed through the FCC - The Verge | Sep 28 06:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781079458178531328 | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mediatek's developer board features a 10-core chip and | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android 6.0 https://t.co/vmCKhIarr8 (www.pcworld.com) | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mediatek's developer board features a 10-core chip and Android 6.0 | PCWorld | Sep 28 06:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781079730489585665 | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromebooks get stable Android apps as Andromeda rumors | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | swirl https://t.co/T8oflcteG7 (www.pcworld.com) | Sep 28 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 06:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chromebooks get stable Android apps as Andromeda rumors swirl | PCWorld | Sep 28 06:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781081029801025536 | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | B2G OS and Gecko Annoucement from Ari Jaaksi & David | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bryant https://t.co/huIleboT2V (groups.google.com) | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groups.google.com | B2G OS and Gecko Annoucement from Ari Jaaksi & David Bryant - Google Groups | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781082267640791040 | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Pixel press shot leaked, shows new home button and | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | round icons https://t.co/MgTRQBZmCt | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 28 07:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | [Update: Pixel XL too] Google Pixel press shot leaked, shows new home button and round icons | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781082465012178945 | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Are Android and Chrome OS coming together for real this | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | time?" https://t.co/laJ9o1u8be (www.computerworld.com) | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Andromeda? Making sense of an Android-Chrome OS marriage | Computerworld | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087581052149760 | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/KEvkFkqNfS | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087582545293312 | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/FWisE9sufG | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087583753244672 | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/YkLd8fAgsf | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Sep 28 07:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/CHTfO8Jl.jpg | Sep 28 07:36 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 07:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087584944398336 | Sep 28 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/Shv0kOGgVC | Sep 28 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 07:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Sep 28 07:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087586022326272 | Sep 28 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/jyIj10Lhtp | Sep 28 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 07:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 28 07:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781089224544116736 | Sep 28 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25 'Frozen' | Sep 28 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UcD1gCQW8I (techrights.org) | Sep 28 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 07:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25 ‘Frozen’ | Techrights | Sep 28 07:43 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 28 07:43 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 07:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25...' | Sep 28 07:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes...' | Sep 28 07:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of...' | Sep 28 07:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes...' | Sep 28 07:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of...' | Sep 28 07:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta Officially Released with Linux...' | Sep 28 07:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux...' | Sep 28 07:46 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/yJoRNP6.jpg | Sep 28 07:52 |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 28 08:17 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/9Opk9tI | Sep 28 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oddest time to update, razer - Imgur | Sep 28 08:19 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 08:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux...' | Sep 28 08:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/781106293289418752 | Sep 28 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25 'Frozen' | Sep 28 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts https://t.co/UcD1gCQW8I (techrights.org) | Sep 28 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 08:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/iiRzW97 | Sep 28 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You will never be as happy as this old man getting a pair of light up shoes. - GIF on Imgur | Sep 28 09:09 | |
| MinceR | http://boingboing.net/2016/09/27/how-a-pythagoras-cup-works.html | Sep 28 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | How a Pythagoras Cup works / Boing Boing | Sep 28 09:16 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 09:38 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/RBJFU05 | Sep 28 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Starbucks App - Imgur | Sep 28 09:50 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 28 10:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/rqL3yKU | Sep 28 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ooohhh harry.... - GIF on Imgur | Sep 28 11:00 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 11:14 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/spSqw3e | Sep 28 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is so bad I almost think it's satire - Imgur | Sep 28 11:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156710048149504 | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/PuliazOGnS | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156711151185921 | Sep 28 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/ABB4eXbpMX | Sep 28 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:41 | |
| -->Emchan (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 11:49 | |
| MinceR | http://cdn77.eatliver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/test.jpg | Sep 28 12:04 |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-dumbest-election-conspiracy-theories-that-people-believe/ | Sep 28 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 Conspiracy Theories That PROVE This Election Is The Worst | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/pt6g9 ] | Sep 28 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156712518553601 | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/qJnol4DXMf | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156713709785088 | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1KdHfD8T7O (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156715563593728 | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Linux Kernel 4.8 https://t.co/YBNm7Ihk8R | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 and Linux Kernel 4.8 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:14 | |
| -->Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 12:47 | |
| MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1739/ | Sep 28 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Fixing Problems | Sep 28 12:49 | |
| <--balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | Sep 28 12:51 | |
| MinceR | <worstcase> once we look at women as 3d printers i think abortion wont be as much of a big deal | Sep 28 12:55 |
| r_schestowitz | meh | Sep 28 13:17 |
| r_schestowitz | printers can be repaired | Sep 28 13:18 |
| r_schestowitz | [09:59] <DaemonFC> r_schestowitz, Yeah. They haven't banned me from Lenovo's Facebook page yet. | Sep 28 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | Facebook or Le NO vo? | Sep 28 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/threatresearch/status/781180822208454656 | Sep 28 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@threatresearch: @schestowitz better to remain undefined. Don't let the advertising industry define you! | Sep 28 13:23 | |
| *cubexyz officially bans Lenovo from his computer lab | Sep 28 13:28 | |
| cubexyz | fortunately I don't have any Lenovo's | Sep 28 13:28 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/GiXxNO6 | Sep 28 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-That's not how you spell meeting. This is how you spell meeting. - Courtesy of Outlook - Imgur | Sep 28 13:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft... | Sep 28 13:42 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 13:43 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 28 13:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185089124184064 | Sep 28 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka it's an interesting question. I think we still need some professional trained force to deal with violent crimes. | Sep 28 14:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185241603911680 | Sep 28 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka But it could be much smaller than today's police. Some forces are so corrupt that we have to disband them anyway. | Sep 28 14:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185543090470912 | Sep 28 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka I think in a lot of cities the entire police culture is so corrupt that it needs to be rebooted. San Francisco? | Sep 28 14:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | That's the one that killed Debian's founder | Sep 28 14:01 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185710065758208 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185953939410944 | Sep 28 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka A friend who visited SF recently says he saw gangs of pickpockets & three card monte games while cops ignored it. | Sep 28 14:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka The city is much worse than 5 years ago. SFPD cops must be on the take. County of SF is the same as city of SF. | Sep 28 14:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781186138794897408 | Sep 28 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka So there's no checks & balances between SF city & county gov like in most of the US. Rich SF techies don't care. | Sep 28 14:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781186452252078081 | Sep 28 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka Or in Los Angeles, we had crooked LAPD and also a crooked LA Sheriff's Dept. for unincorporated parts w/o police. | Sep 28 14:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781187008349601792 | Sep 28 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka We need to disband every crooked police force in the USA & reboot them with a culture of respect for communities. | Sep 28 14:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/K_Killah915/status/781189515503214592 https://twitter.com/K_Killah915/status/781189666116476928 https://twitter.com/K_Killah915/status/781189866650349568 | Sep 28 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K_Killah915: @jhamby @schestowitz @ajamubaraka Ur ridiculous. I grew up in the inner city of Queens, yeah some police r bad but their is also violence | Sep 28 14:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K_Killah915: @jhamby @schestowitz @ajamubaraka Gangs run the housing projects. They instill fear in our community | Sep 28 14:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K_Killah915: @jhamby @schestowitz @ajamubaraka Anyone asking 4 police free comms grew up in the burbs or is ignorant | Sep 28 14:04 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/781191866008076289 | Sep 28 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz The important thing to remember is the #American people have lost by being presented with just two unappealing choices. #USpoli | Sep 28 14:04 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 14:07 | |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 14:07 | |
| MinceR | https://medium.com/the-nib/six-things-i-would-vote-for-before-trump-ade6f341941e | Sep 28 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six Things I Would Vote For Before Trump – The Nib – Medium | Sep 28 14:11 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 28 14:14 | |
| MinceR | http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/abZoy4B_460s_v1.jpg | Sep 28 14:26 |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 14:26 | |
| r_schestowitz | funny | Sep 28 14:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE...' | Sep 28 14:41 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 28 14:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781202268607614976 | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5 upcoming Android phones that are worth waiting for | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UGdakg4fpe (www.geek.com) | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 upcoming Android phones that are worth waiting for | Tech | Geek.com | Sep 28 14:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781204176009367552 | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "student arrived at our department this semester, and | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | after learning that he uses GNU/Linux for all his | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | computing.." https://t.co/PEwKqNCcSr (spwhitton.name) | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spwhitton.name | 'Do you really need to do that?' | Sep 28 14:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781204388694163456 | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android's Nougat Update Isn't Flashy, but Still Pretty | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Handy https://t.co/8CXTTQtFxi (abcnews.go.com) | Sep 28 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Android's Nougat Update Isn't Flashy, but Still Pretty Handy - ABC News | Sep 28 14:52 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 14:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781204852240183298 | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Images Of Android-Powered BlackBerry Passport Emerge | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5M1mIzIwa3 (www.androidheadlines.com) | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Images Of Android-Powered BlackBerry Passport Emerge | Androidheadlines.com | Sep 28 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781209606584471552 | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4vYZrFBMSG (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear - Tizen Experts | Sep 28 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781209774780186624 | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Linux Kernel 4.8 https://t.co/fNqZROqqQa | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 and Linux Kernel 4.8 | Sep 28 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781210216411136001 | Sep 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Polar M600 review: The best sports focused Android Wear | Sep 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartwatch available https://t.co/19iyiVQUPb | Sep 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Sep 28 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Polar M600 review: The best sports focused Android Wear smartwatch available Review | ZDNet | Sep 28 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781210651360370688 | Sep 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a diminutive | Sep 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desktop powered by AMD https://t.co/nOEOsyZFWf | Sep 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (betanews.com) https://t.co/re1VjpFFkI | Sep 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a diminutive desktop powered by AMD | Sep 28 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint Project Unveils Mintbox Mini Pro PC, Ships with Linux Mint 18 "Sarah" | Sep 28 15:15 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TfsF53y | Sep 28 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The "yes for safeway" button does nothing. - Imgur | Sep 28 15:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @skankthis retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a...' | Sep 28 15:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MishiChoudhary retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a...' | Sep 28 15:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781211910117199872 | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and GNOME 3.20 Desktop https://t.co/s1ifesYAdA | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 and GNOME 3.20 Desktop | Sep 28 15:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213035604172800 | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | EXTON MultiBootCD 6-OS Now Includes 4MLinux, Tiny Core, | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SliTaz, Porteus & PuppEX https://t.co/rxOxXU8jQ1 | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | EXTON MultiBootCD 6-OS Now Includes 4MLinux, Tiny Core, SliTaz, Porteus & PuppEX | Sep 28 15:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213417604575232 | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Comes with LXDE as LXQt Got | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Postponed Until Lubuntu 17.04 https://t.co/C75tWQGmH6 | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Comes with LXDE as LXQt Got Postponed Until Lubuntu 17.04 | Sep 28 15:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213699738570752 | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kYj6KPeiUy (hackerboards.com) | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Sep 28 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213962859937792 | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat https://t.co/Dbe8zlDIid? | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxinsider.com) | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Sep 28 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781214183232835585 | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop https://t.co/sgU2830HMi | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop | Sep 28 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216244988915718 | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MQ90OKalmK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Tux Machines | Sep 28 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216246251393025 | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat https://t.co/BezJtfT7Zz | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat | Tux Machines | Sep 28 15:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216248105357312 | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop https://t.co/k7c4CM7j2c | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop | Tux Machines | Sep 28 15:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216249292345344 | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/xUpXCYeNvT | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 15:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 15:38 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tmp1-17.jpg | Sep 28 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216250605211648 | Sep 28 16:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/s1xcArbFPk | Sep 28 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 16:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781218576707514368 | Sep 28 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Highlights of YaST development sprint 25 | Sep 28 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/K3uXA196qC (lizards.opensuse.org) | Sep 28 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lizards.opensuse.org | openSUSE Lizards | Sep 28 16:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781223885933019136 | Sep 28 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Niche - a genetics survival game' released with Linux | Sep 28 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support https://t.co/r8YZhO7LZv (error) | Sep 28 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/niche-a-genetics-survival-game-released-with-linux-support.8194 ) | Sep 28 16:08 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tmp2-17.jpg | Sep 28 16:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781223931634221056 | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Pavilion', the very stylish fourth-person puzzling | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | adventure released with day-1 Linux support | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/slXWCRuVvW (error) | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/pavilion-the-very-stylish-fourth-person-puzzling-adventure-released-with-day-1-linux-support.8195 ) | Sep 28 16:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781224686327853056 | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel's Beignet OpenCL For Linux Now Supports LLVM 3.9 | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KVNa1ZqODb (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel's Beignet OpenCL For Linux Now Supports LLVM 3.9 - Phoronix | Sep 28 16:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781226164664823808 | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpine Linux 3.4.4 released https://t.co/lMkNctUX0O | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.alpinelinux.org) | Sep 28 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.4.4 released | Alpine Linux | Sep 28 16:21 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 28 16:34 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 16:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781227235093151744 | Sep 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NVIDIA Officially Releases CUDA 8 https://t.co/9LKMsZdnJF | Sep 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) more news about NV: | Sep 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/F6vbzDEyYW (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6P52TdXgdb (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Officially Releases CUDA 8 - Phoronix | Sep 28 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Announces "Xavier" AI Supercomputer SoC With Custom ARM64 + Volta GPU - Phoronix | Sep 28 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Shows Off Their Latest Linux-Powered AI Car Demonstration - Phoronix | Sep 28 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781229639133986816 | Sep 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks | Sep 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WfMheardoe (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks - Phoronix | Sep 28 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232879871234049 | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Firefox Changes https://t.co/cgOe0bKlgY | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox Changes | Tux Machines | Sep 28 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232881125306368 | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpine Linux 3.4.4 released https://t.co/ClyTaYddEj | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine Linux 3.4.4 released | Tux Machines | Sep 28 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232882119380998 | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/09WwjkyR9U | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 28 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232883453222912 | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/LIEjB4FTxF | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 28 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232884447219712 | Sep 28 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks | Sep 28 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zGHd8wunjN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Sep 28 17:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Comes with LXDE as...' | Sep 28 17:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'EXTON MultiBootCD 6-OS Now Includes 4MLinux, Tiny Core,...' | Sep 28 17:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta...' | Sep 28 17:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE...' | Sep 28 17:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta...' | Sep 28 17:17 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 28 17:20 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tmp3-15.jpg | Sep 28 17:26 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 263 seconds) | Sep 28 17:39 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 17:43 | |
| MinceR | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet | Sep 28 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | How to Crash Systemd in One Tweet [ http://ur1.ca/pt82b ] | Sep 28 17:44 | |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 28 17:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora...' | Sep 28 17:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781241867203710976 | Sep 28 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro start open-source development for IoT on ARM | Sep 28 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cortex-M https://t.co/o3dOthQu0u–1164526 | Sep 28 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.telecompaper.com) https://t.co/z4DxJ8WmTd | Sep 28 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.edn-europe.com) | Sep 28 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 17:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linaro start open-source development for IoT on ARM Cortex-M - Telecompaper | Sep 28 17:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edn-europe.com | Linaro organisation, with ARM, aims for end-end open source IoT code | EDN | Sep 28 17:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249556986015744 | Sep 28 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro and FOSS https://t.co/3AK9kVRw0x | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 17:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linaro and FOSS | Tux Machines | Sep 28 17:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249558902808576 | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apache Spot https://t.co/ScheCM33hF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 17:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache Spot | Tux Machines | Sep 28 17:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249560240791552 | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/JdzzhQwUJk | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 17:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 17:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249561725501440 | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/3wQ4e1r8KV | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 17:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 17:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/781081037573132288 | Sep 28 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @zoobab "openstack server list --limit -1 " fixed the issue. | Sep 28 18:07 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/Brainmage/status/781172583966380032 | Sep 28 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainmage: Despite all my rage I am still just https://t.co/WvfSukW4ng | Sep 28 18:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainmage: Despite all my rage I am still just https://t.co/WvfSukW4ng | Sep 28 18:53 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/781273251498647552 | Sep 28 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: https://t.co/254cK0fswF https://t.co/rgOCLXuDvA | Sep 28 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @wikileaks https://t.co/xTchiT7Mwo | Sep 28 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks Different genders and names, but the interests overlap | Sep 28 19:24 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 19:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249563290021888 | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Server Administration https://t.co/lLdZ0ZYeg1 | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server Administration | Tux Machines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781275487171739648 | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Endless OS 3.0 is out! https://t.co/jELFFh04OI | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.joaquimrocha.com) | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.joaquimrocha.com | Endless OS 3.0 is out! | Joaquim Rocha's Web Page | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281060424327168 | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel News https://t.co/KpGiVrTHqQ | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281061397405696 | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ovV2tLSyVs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Tux Machines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281062596907008 | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i8JQy2elmu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281064018808832 | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Endless OS 3.0 is out! https://t.co/vawRGmn38W | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Endless OS 3.0 is out! | Tux Machines | Sep 28 19:55 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Seems like a real response from Lenovo on Facebook. | Sep 28 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | They told me that if I don't cut it out, they'll just ban me from commenting on their page. | Sep 28 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK[S] 1 point 3 hours ago* | Sep 28 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has been lying and engaging in a cover up after blocking Linux and initially admitting that it was part of a deal with Microsoft. Especially on their forum. This is "suspicious" on the level of all third party ink cartridges stop working on the same day in HP printers and HP says "Whoops.". | Sep 28 20:16 |
| r_schestowitz | 瑨灴㩳⼯睴瑩整�潣⽭捳敨瑳睯瑩⽺瑳瑡獵㜯ㄸㄲ㠱㠹㘵㠱㐸㘱 | Sep 28 20:18 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/781211898561884160 | Sep 28 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 and GNOME 3.20 Desktop https://t.co/GqyPAErEs9 #fedora #gnu #linux | Sep 28 20:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 and GNOME 3.20 Desktop | Sep 28 20:20 | |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/After-Lenovo-abandoned-Linux-best-replacement/m-p/3441207#M8491 | Sep 28 20:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: After Lenovo abandoned Linux, best replacement... - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/pt8od ] | Sep 28 20:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, Lenovo would like it if you believed that Linux no longer working with their latest Yoga laptops is just a coincidence. | Sep 28 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 28 20:21 | |
| DaemonFC | I guess it's as much of a coincidence as all 3rd party ink cartridges stop working in HP printers on the same day. | Sep 28 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 28 20:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Funny coincidence, that.... | Sep 28 20:21 |
| cubexyz | HP is good and bad just like Lenovo is good and bad | Sep 28 20:22 |
| cubexyz | Stallman was using a Lenovo X200 laptop | Sep 28 20:23 |
| cubexyz | I currently use HP scanners and HP chromebook | Sep 28 20:23 |
| cubexyz | and a HP laserprinter from 1997 | Sep 28 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, I don't dare get rid of my old HP AIO printer now. | Sep 28 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't give me the error so I think it's before they built in the timebomb. | Sep 28 20:25 |
| cubexyz | was HP and Lenovo better in the past? definitely | Sep 28 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | It has a driver that works in Windows 10. They're going to have to pry it out of my cold dead hands. | Sep 28 20:26 |
| cubexyz | but all-in-ones have some drawbacks... harder to fix if something goes wrong | Sep 28 20:26 |
| r_schestowitz | has someone told RMS about HP DRM? | Sep 28 20:28 |
| r_schestowitz | He staretd GNU after a xeron faceoff he had had | Sep 28 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. Has anyone told him about Lenovo, for that matter? | Sep 28 20:28 |
| cubexyz | was it a xerox printer? I forget | Sep 28 20:29 |
| cubexyz | yes, a laser printer | Sep 28 20:30 |
| cubexyz | I was in a similar situation with the HP 4470c scanner a few years ago | Sep 28 20:31 |
| cubexyz | HP couldn't help me... the real villian was Realtek and there RTS8891 chip | Sep 28 20:33 |
| cubexyz | Realtek didn't give out any info on their chip | Sep 28 20:34 |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 28 20:34 | |
| cubexyz | eventually some european programmers reverse-engineered the windows driver | Sep 28 20:34 |
| cubexyz | hardly ideal, although I was able to use the scanner | Sep 28 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideapad-710s-and-Linux/m-p/3441211#M8492 | Sep 28 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: ideapad 710s and Linux - Page 5 - Lenovo Community | Sep 28 20:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Yogas not letting you install Linux is a coincidence....in the same way that all HP printers rejecting 3rd party ink on the same day was a *quotation fingers* "coincidence". | Sep 28 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 28 20:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Speaking of which: I don't dare get rid of my old HP AIO printer now. It didn't give me the *quotation fingers*"error" so I think it's before they built in the timebomb. It has a driver that works in Windows 10. They're going to have to pry it out of my cold dead hands. | Sep 28 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 28 20:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, Matthew Garrett blamed Intel for the *quotation fingers* "unfortunate situation" with Yogas and Linux, but Alan Cox not only works for Intel, he's a kernel developer that understands how to work in areas of the kernel that scare away almost everyone else, who have a hard time figuring out what's going on in there. Think.....assembler. | Sep 28 20:35 |
| cubexyz | the HP officejet printer/scanner/copiers were fairly well suported... e.g. the officejet 7130 would work on linux out of the box | Sep 28 20:36 |
| cubexyz | there were a bunch of different ones | Sep 28 20:37 |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| cubexyz | oh another bad one was the HP 4850 scanner | Sep 28 20:38 |
| cubexyz | except for that one it was the GL843 chip, but there actually was a data sheet available for it | Sep 28 20:38 |
| cubexyz | I have an interesting in programming, but there's a limit to everything | Sep 28 20:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, yes SANE eventually did support the HP 4850C, but not all features were supported | Sep 28 20:42 |
| cubexyz | good enough to get by I suppose | Sep 28 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideapad-710s-and-Linux/m-p/3441214#M8493 | Sep 28 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: ideapad 710s and Linux - Page 5 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/pt8r8 ] | Sep 28 20:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Avoiding a technical violation while talking about the *quotation fingers* "unfortunate totally coincidental Linux situation" on the Yogas on this forum is getting to the point where it's like if people asked you if the FBI was there and having to say "no" while nodding your head. Smiley Happy | Sep 28 20:43 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ChrisOrtega0/status/781287701169352704 | Sep 28 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChrisOrtega0: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @HillaryClinton @GovGaryJohnson lmfaoo well put! 😂 Also the unaware masses who comply to what's given to them | Sep 28 20:50 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54wqxp/libressl_250_released/ | Sep 28 20:51 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/op_hector/status/781295113209192448 | Sep 28 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | LibreSSL 2.5.0 released : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pt8sd ] | Sep 28 20:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@op_hector: @schestowitz @Truthdig @DrJillStein Trump alone no prob. The saddest part is it shows the thinking & feeling of almost half the voters in US | Sep 28 20:51 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | It's really unfortunate that there are so many users of OpenSSL. It's a subsidy black hole that will never be secure. LibreSSL has had problems, but you can go to the Wikipedia article and compare vulnerabilities since OpenSSL 1.0.2 against LibreSSL and tell me which one people should be using. | Sep 28 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing has improved, really, since Heartbleed. | Sep 28 20:51 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, seen that | Sep 28 20:51 |
| r_schestowitz | in techrights and tuxmachines already | Sep 28 20:51 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: lenovo has its own fork | Sep 28 20:51 |
| r_schestowitz | it's called superSSL | Sep 28 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Sep 28 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Good one! | Sep 28 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, added that into the comments. | Sep 28 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | I also hear that Lenovo had their own fork. | Sep 28 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | SuperSSL. | Sep 28 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks folks, I'll be here all day. :P | Sep 28 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281065000243200 | Sep 28 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/OQFMfzZAK4 | Sep 28 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781294355130748928 | Sep 28 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0 | Sep 28 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6KcQcdbt1d (techrights.org) | Sep 28 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0 | Techrights | Sep 28 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296068998770688 | Sep 28 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Networking and Security https://t.co/7Xj03dUqZ7 | Sep 28 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Networking and Security | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:55 | |
| <--MarkBilk_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | Sep 28 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296070487789569 | Sep 28 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/qJurP6OAA4 | Sep 28 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296071834087424 | Sep 28 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/f7VxSE0jTo | Sep 28 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:55 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54zl0u/dont_hide_drm_in_a_security_update/ | Sep 28 20:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Don't Hide DRM in a Security Update : linux | Sep 28 20:56 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Tell people that a major PC OEM made Linux stop working on half a dozen computer models (Lenovo), people call you a conspiracy theorist. | Sep 28 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Make everyone's affordable 3rd party ink fail on the same day (HP), everyone loses their minds. | Sep 28 20:56 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0...' | Sep 28 20:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0...' | Sep 28 20:56 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Shoould really post the Linux warning on the sites selling the 910 when it comes out. | Sep 28 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | *Should | Sep 28 21:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [01:52] <DaemonFC> Thanks folks, I'll be here all day. :P | Sep 28 21:06 |
| r_schestowitz | :_D | Sep 28 21:06 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, they already suffer | Sep 28 21:07 |
| r_schestowitz | the media sort of moved on and lost interest | Sep 28 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | Do we have any idea how much though? | Sep 28 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't seem like people are losing interest. Especially when you mention that you can't reinstall Windows and would have to send it in to Lenovo for that. | Sep 28 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | So it's important to mention that too. | Sep 28 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | That way you gain the interest of people who will never run Linux and they might decide to continue shopping. | Sep 28 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, The tidal wave of up votes on Best Buy made me a Top 50 reviewer with just two reviews posted. :) | Sep 28 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | So my future reviews will be on top of others. | Sep 28 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | I really want to keep hitting Lenovo with this. They can eventually ban me from their own sites (at least as far as they know), but the real damage can be done with comments and reviews about their products on other sites. | Sep 28 21:10 |
| cubexyz | secure boot and all that stuff made me dig into BIOS back in late 2010 | Sep 28 21:10 |
| cubexyz | I'm glad I did... learned a lot | Sep 28 21:10 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: way to go, you're a "dangerous" man now | Sep 28 21:15 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: some people sue over reviews | Sep 28 21:16 |
| r_schestowitz | techdirt wrote about examples this month, new ones... | Sep 28 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Yeah, but those are usually obscure companies. | Sep 28 21:16 |
| r_schestowitz | it always backfired and the company loses, gets even more negative publicity | Sep 28 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | And it blows up in their face. | Sep 28 21:16 |
| r_schestowitz | also, steam IIRC banned one company over it | Sep 28 21:16 |
| r_schestowitz | and tossed/canned their game | Sep 28 21:16 |
| r_schestowitz | some companies require you prove to have purchased the item before reviewing | Sep 28 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, John said "They might sue you.". I said, "That's fine. If I lose I'll file bnkruptcy and then I'll write about it.". | Sep 28 21:17 |
| r_schestowitz | some firms are in the business of posting fake NEGATIVE reviews | Sep 28 21:17 |
| r_schestowitz | the FTC hardly enforces the law | Sep 28 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | "If I win, I'll write about it." | Sep 28 21:17 |
| r_schestowitz | I sent some complaint letter to the FTC about it | Sep 28 21:17 |
| r_schestowitz | and I'm no US citizen | Sep 28 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, You should complain to whatever the relevant agency is in the UK. | Sep 28 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | You might contact the EU. You can still do that. :) | Sep 28 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I encouraged people to contact the US federal government and their state Attorney General's office. | Sep 28 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of these cases against big companies get lumped together if multiple states file charges against them. | Sep 28 21:19 |
| r_schestowitz | MSFT is a US company | Sep 28 21:19 |
| r_schestowitz | and the firms they get for astroturfing are US-based | Sep 28 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Then it ends up in the federal courts anyway. | Sep 28 21:19 |
| r_schestowitz | so the EU cannot do much | Sep 28 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo. | Sep 28 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has to be hurt so other OEMs will say "You know what. A $20 rebate on each Signature PC isn't worth it.". | Sep 28 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Or whatever it is. | Sep 28 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | The Signature PC program hasn't really worked out too well. The people who buy the cheaper models usually find out that they don't have enough space on the SSD to upgrade Windows or store many files. | Sep 28 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | End up putting Ubuntu on it to free up 20 gigs. | Sep 28 21:21 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EddieJohnson13/status/781307677368397825 | Sep 28 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EddieJohnson13: @schestowitz @DrJillStein 99.9%+ of cops have never killed anyone. You are a mental midget | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | This number if fabricated unless there are over a million cops in the US | Sep 28 21:44 |
| cubexyz | read up on Kelly Thomas, 2011 beat to death by cops | Sep 28 21:44 |
| cubexyz | and I still don't know what the deal was with Ian Murdock | Sep 28 21:47 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 21:51 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 28 21:56 | |
| <--schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 28 21:56 | |
| <--acer-box______ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 28 21:56 | |
| -->acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 21:58 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 21:59 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 28 21:59 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 21:59 | |
| -->schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 21:59 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 22:03 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 28 22:03 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 22:03 | |
| <--acer-box______ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 28 22:03 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 28 22:03 | |
| <--schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 22:03 | |
| -->schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 22:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296599838367753 | Sep 28 22:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi Announces PIXEL Desktop Environment | Sep 28 22:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7kUNzB8UZF (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 22:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspberry Pi Announces PIXEL Desktop Environment - Phoronix | Sep 28 22:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StuKeroff favourited 'Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux...' | Sep 28 22:15 | |
| -->balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 22:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EddieJohnson13/status/781310437308542976 | Sep 28 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EddieJohnson13: @schestowitz @DrJillStein 1.1 million doc, approx 1 million with arrest powers | Sep 28 22:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EddieJohnson13/status/781311764902227968 https://twitter.com/EddieJohnson13/status/781312241626812416 | Sep 28 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EddieJohnson13: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Doc, less than 1 in 40 ever fire their weapon in the line of duty. | Sep 28 22:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EddieJohnson13: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Cops deal with mentally ill and atrocious behavior ALL THE TIME and almost always resolve the situation | Sep 28 22:25 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Thanks for the link | Sep 28 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2471947/what-you-missed-in-tech-last-week-hps-ink-ban-lenovo-vs-linux-yahoo-mega-hack | Sep 28 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | What you missed in tech last week: HP's ink ban, Lenovo vs Linux, Yahoo mega-hack | TheINQUIRER | Sep 28 22:30 | |
| DaemonFC | RF • 6 minutes ago | Sep 28 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | What Lenovo did with the recent Yogas to block Linux is a disgrace and is unforgivable. Whether it was due to an agreement with Microsoft, which they admitted to before deleting it, or due to gross incompetence, people should not buy Lenovo computers until there is a fix and they publicly state that they won't do it again. | Sep 28 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | In the meantime, make sure your friends know that Lenovo = Not good for Linux. | Sep 28 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | After hiding, deleting, and modifying forum posts, Lenovo put moderation on to make it look like you can still comment, but you can't. | Sep 28 22:30 |
| schestowitz | gn | Sep 28 22:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, that's the last link I saw about this saga | Sep 28 22:31 |
| schestowitz | nothing since, but I didn't look closely into it | Sep 28 22:31 |
| schestowitz | press doesn't tend to do followups, unless it's some "correction" that PR bunnies press hard for | Sep 28 22:31 |
| schestowitz | a followup on this saga might not get covered unless something very major happens | Sep 28 22:32 |
| schestowitz | like action filed by the AG | Sep 28 22:32 |
| schestowitz | gn | Sep 28 22:32 |
| <--balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 28 22:32 | |
| -->balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 22:40 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point a minute ago | Sep 28 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks to the HP printer fiasco, many people now know the feeling of disgust you get when you buy something that should work and the OEM has intentionally designed it to block what you bought it to do. | Sep 28 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what the crossover is between furious HP customers and people who down voted and got the mods to flair my Lenovo posts as "misleading". I hope that a lot of those people bought expensive HP printers and can't take them back. For everyone else....Sucks doesn't it? Sorry it happened. | Sep 28 22:40 |
| dblaber | hp printer fiasco? | Sep 28 22:42 |
| dblaber | details? | Sep 28 22:42 |
| dblaber | ah never mind | Sep 28 22:42 |
| cubexyz | Matthäus Nikolaus Stulick, I definitely heard some nice harpsichord in the background | Sep 28 22:45 |
| razielle_tzu | :) | Sep 28 22:45 |
| <--balrog has quit (Quit: Bye) | Sep 28 22:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StuKeroff favourited 'Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux...' | Sep 28 22:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781324307632795648 | Sep 28 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi Announces PIXEL Desktop Environment | Sep 28 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Er5X997m7v (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Announces PIXEL Desktop Environment | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:57 | |
| cubexyz | seems to be some confusion about his birthday | Sep 28 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54zl0u/dont_hide_drm_in_a_security_update/ | Sep 28 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Don't Hide DRM in a Security Update : linux | Sep 28 23:06 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]torontohatesfacts [-1] [score hidden] 25 minutes ago | Sep 28 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | You mean like faded photographs after 6 months under living room lighting? | Sep 28 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | permalink | Sep 28 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | embed | Sep 28 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | save | Sep 28 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | parent | Sep 28 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | report | Sep 28 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | give gold | Sep 28 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | reply | Sep 28 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point 11 minutes ago | Sep 28 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | EZ-INK on ebay has been a decent source of ink. Usually, when I print something out, I only need it because someone else is not caught up with the times and need something on paper. I don't feel like spending beluga caviar prices on HP ink so that I can give some foul government bureaucrat at the DMV a piece of paper that they proceed to scan into their computer anyway, but wouldn't have accepted as an email. | Sep 28 23:07 |
| cubexyz | give gold? | Sep 28 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Reddit Gold. | Sep 28 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Someone gave me 30 days of gold for the Lenovo post. | Sep 28 23:07 |
| cubexyz | oh | Sep 28 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | It gives you access to hidden subreddits and other perks. | Sep 28 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Mostly themes and the option to hide ads, but an ad blocker and Reddit Enhancement Suite can do that. | Sep 28 23:08 |
| cubexyz | wow, some piano aficionados say read the original Carl Bach book in german | Sep 28 23:16 |
| cubexyz | project gutenberg has let me down this time | Sep 28 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I might still need my Chromebook so I can print with CUPS without dealing with HP's new printer software. | Sep 28 23:26 |
| <--sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 23:47 | |
| -->Emchan_alt (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 23:48 | |
| <--Emchan has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 23:48 | |
| -->balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 23:50 | |
| -->sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 23:54 | |
| <--habs has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 28 23:54 | |
| -->habs (U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 00:00 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 00:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781399391534014464 | Sep 29 03:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Sep 29 03:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yLPUYkPnLw (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 29 03:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Sep 29 03:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781399595066818560 | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ReqRu2Mg1j (hackerboards.com) | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 03:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Sep 29 03:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781401747419959296 | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi Foundation Unveils New LXDE-Based Desktop | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Raspbian Called PIXEL https://t.co/8Np93aUmzd | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 03:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Raspberry Pi Foundation Unveils New LXDE-Based Desktop for Raspbian Called PIXEL | Sep 29 03:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781402211595190272 | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Studio 16.10 to Offer an Up-to-Date Multimedia | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oriented Linux Distro https://t.co/T2kuyVmxlD | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 03:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Studio 16.10 to Offer an Up-to-Date Multimedia Oriented Linux Distro | Sep 29 03:59 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 29 04:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781402895405223936 | Sep 29 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 Beta 2 Released with Many Apps from | Sep 29 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the GNOME 3.22 Stack https://t.co/YPDyNyGhfk | Sep 29 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 Beta 2 Released with Many Apps from the GNOME 3.22 Stack | Sep 29 04:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 04:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @jfoxdev favourited 'Raspberry Pi Foundation Unveils New LXDE-Based Desktop for...' | Sep 29 04:08 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 04:12 | |
| <--Researcher- has quit (Quit: Node swtching mode ... transfer will complete in 12 sec) | Sep 29 04:35 | |
| -->Researcher- (iana@gtld.ovh) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 04:35 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I am linking t Lenovo forums | Sep 29 05:04 |
| schestowitz | 6 microblogs | Sep 29 05:04 |
| schestowitz | it's quality, now that Alan Cox debunks them | Sep 29 05:04 |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 29 05:05 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 29 05:05 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 05:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781405229594112000 | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Valve's Steam Controller With SteamOS/Linux Support Is | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Now Listed For Just $35 https://t.co/217uCf3njA | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 05:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve's Steam Controller With SteamOS/Linux Support Is Now Listed For Just $35 - Phoronix | Sep 29 05:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781407522779459584 | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development, Improves Swarm Mode https://t.co/Y1vxlM8FFj | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 05:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development, Improves Swarm Mode | Sep 29 05:11 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: contact Steven (SJVN) et al now | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781411486052847616 | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | billion turnover in 5 years https://t.co/HSW6RCFUyt | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (economictimes.indiatimes.com) | Sep 29 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 05:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economictimes.indiatimes.com | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 billion turnover in 5 years - The Economic Times | Sep 29 05:11 | |
| schestowitz | tell them about Alan Cox and other new developments | Sep 29 05:11 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-new-debate-format | Sep 29 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - A New Debate Format [ http://ur1.ca/ptatk ] | Sep 29 05:12 | |
| DaemonFC | I'll look into that later. | Sep 29 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | Should have been in bed hours ago. | Sep 29 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | Night night. | Sep 29 05:17 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 29 05:17 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 05:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781421064949735424 | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | InXile Entertainment announced Wasteland 3, will use | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | crowdfunding on fig https://t.co/AMA0hahYx2 (error) | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/inxile-entertainment-announced-wasteland-3-will-use-crowdfunding-on-fig.8200 ) | Sep 29 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426777335869440 | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development, Improves Swarm Mode https://t.co/GJmU7i8RVP | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development, Improves Swarm Mode | Tux Machines | Sep 29 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426778715721728 | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More on Canonical and Kubernetes https://t.co/TOKF3UPKJ4 | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on Canonical and Kubernetes | Tux Machines | Sep 29 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426780053774336 | Sep 29 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 | Sep 29 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | billion turnover in 5 years https://t.co/xzWbfiAzX0 | Sep 29 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 05:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 billion turnover in 5 years | Tux Machines | Sep 29 05:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426781202944000 | Sep 29 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/2ULdI32vs4 | Sep 29 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 29 05:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426782486470656 | Sep 29 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Servers/Networks https://t.co/THAgGU36Mn | Sep 29 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers/Networks | Tux Machines | Sep 29 05:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development,...' | Sep 29 05:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development,...' | Sep 29 05:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 Beta 2 Released with Many...' | Sep 29 05:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Studio 16.10 to Offer an Up-to-Date Multimedia...' | Sep 29 05:37 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 05:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Raspberry Pi Foundation Unveils New LXDE-Based Desktop for...' | Sep 29 06:10 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WS58CbE | Sep 29 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows has computer - Imgur | Sep 29 06:23 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 29 06:25 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice one | Sep 29 06:27 |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 06:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ManagingIP/status/781440213646209024 | Sep 29 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ManagingIP: Letter expressing concerns re EPO management & Boards of Appeal - sent in February this year https://t.co/lToxWuTKUY | Sep 29 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @ManagingIP Letter From Dutch Institute of Patent Attorneys to the Administrative Council of #EPO https://t.co/UXX6jfAw7X | Sep 29 06:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/781446558931947524 | Sep 29 06:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rbanffy: @schestowitz in the end, if it causes Trump to be elected, there is little difference, even if someone feels they did what was morally right | Sep 29 06:53 | |
| MinceR | http://ateistamembazis.hu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/3179-00707-frustrations-2-650-x-2386.jpg | Sep 29 06:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/i9Y6db2 | Sep 29 07:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I don't think that's right, Word... - Imgur | Sep 29 07:09 | |
| MinceR | crApple pulling a micro$oft (yet again) >> http://www.androidauthority.com/android-wear-not-connecting-iphone-7-718921/ | Sep 29 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Android Wear watches aren't connecting to the iPhone 7 | Sep 29 07:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @SaimaAshiq favourited 'Samsung Z2 (SM-Z200F) Certified in Indonesia, likely Launching...' | Sep 29 08:00 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/UzjV1NQ | Sep 29 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LiquidSky now requires both your email and your email. - Imgur | Sep 29 08:02 | |
| MinceR | dumbFuckBook doing the usual shit >> http://www.androidauthority.com/whatsapp-wont-delete-data-india-718929/ | Sep 29 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | WhatsApp refuses to delete user data in India after court ruling [ http://ur1.ca/ptblg ] | Sep 29 08:06 | |
| -->Nazmo_ (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 08:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781463709688397824 | Sep 29 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/iQ5LBHhi6b | Sep 29 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 08:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 29 08:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/iQ5LBHhi6b' | Sep 29 08:11 | |
| schestowitz | daemon should see https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7903520 | Sep 29 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Lenovo Yogas not letting you install Linux is a coincidence....in the same way that all HP printers [DRM] coincidence". https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideapad-710s-and-Linux/m-p/3441211#M8492 | Sep 29 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | among many more | Sep 29 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forums.lenovo.com | Re: ideapad 710s and Linux - Page 5 - Lenovo Community | Sep 29 08:20 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Y3W4x | Sep 29 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trying to set up my Lynda account for work - Album on Imgur | Sep 29 08:35 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tc4-14.jpg | Sep 29 08:45 |
| schestowitz | someone just sent me https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet again | Sep 29 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | How to Crash Systemd in One Tweet | Sep 29 09:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GringoPeruano/status/781480332616884228 | Sep 29 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GringoPeruano: I wonder how many ppl would like 2say: "Fuck it, I quit”? :) https://t.co/HUss2bZ81R | Sep 29 09:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Reporter who quit on air to fight for #cannabis legalization could face prison https://t.co/slAO120aOj https://t.co/G5aI2MZguW | Sep 29 09:10 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/user24/status/781480853058809857 | Sep 29 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@user24: @schestowitz who's yesterday?!? lol! | Sep 29 09:11 | |
| MinceR | i don't get it | Sep 29 09:11 |
| schestowitz | me neither | Sep 29 09:12 |
| schestowitz | too early for booze | Sep 29 09:12 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe he thought "there" or "their" is "they're". | Sep 29 09:13 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Mzv6k49 | Sep 29 09:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shall the application preferences be removed? - No, application preferences / Yes, application preferences - Imgur | Sep 29 09:17 | |
| schestowitz | server under heavy load | Sep 29 09:21 |
| schestowitz | I want to change page for "Error 503 Service Unavailable" | Sep 29 09:22 |
| schestowitz | Varnish makes this very hard | Sep 29 09:22 |
| schestowitz | "guru meditation" is an old game meme, hardly meaningful to visitors. I'd rather change, if not the layout, the text | Sep 29 09:22 |
| schestowitz | to something like, "try again later, we're busy at the moment" | Sep 29 09:22 |
| schestowitz | too hard imho http://serverfault.com/questions/248041/custom-503-error-page-with-varnish | Sep 29 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | Custom 503 Error Page With Varnish - Server Fault | Sep 29 09:23 | |
| schestowitz | I think I got it under control now | Sep 29 09:24 |
| schestowitz | I don't see why varnish makes it so tricky to change | Sep 29 09:24 |
| schestowitz | maybe they try to sell their services or some proprietary crap, that's their business model I think, like nginx's | Sep 29 09:24 |
| MinceR | LigHTTPD > nginx | Sep 29 09:25 |
| schestowitz | yeah, maybe... | Sep 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz | but I don't even use nginx for tuxmachines and techrights | Sep 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz | I use Apache | Sep 29 09:29 |
| schestowitz | at work I suppose nginx for clients | Sep 29 09:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: anyway, if you know of some simply way to remove this "guru meditation" silliness without hard-coded code changes, let me know. It's looking unprofessional to visitors... | Sep 29 09:30 |
| MinceR | dunno | Sep 29 09:31 |
| MinceR | doesn't look unprofessional to me | Sep 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz | I checked this several times in the past (years ago also), it's still hard to achieve | Sep 29 09:31 |
| MinceR | then again, visitors may not be aware of amiga :> | Sep 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz | well, the error code is OK | Sep 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz | but I'd rather say try again later | Sep 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, Amiga reference | Sep 29 09:31 |
| schestowitz | We're going to a yoga class tonight | Sep 29 09:32 |
| schestowitz | MinceR:thanks for the time anyway; if you know some varnish gurus, let me know | Sep 29 09:36 |
| MinceR | np | Sep 29 09:36 |
| schestowitz | I bet it can be done more simply, but searching the Web nets nothing | Sep 29 09:36 |
| MinceR | i don't know any | Sep 29 09:36 |
| schestowitz | it's just a bunch of simple HTML, so I should be able to even throw <img src="BANNER" /> at it | Sep 29 09:37 |
| schestowitz | lots of traffic today,not ddos | Sep 29 09:37 |
| schestowitz | due to leaks from the epo, which I published (two major ones) | Sep 29 09:37 |
| schestowitz | the server's db is on fire | Sep 29 09:37 |
| schestowitz | apropos, MinceR: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-journalist-arrested-for-illegal-voting-after-exposing-carousel-fraud-in-duma-elections-denis-a7334351.html | Sep 29 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Russian journalist arrested for 'illegal' voting after exposing fraud in Duma elections | The Independent | Sep 29 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | cc XRevan86 | Sep 29 09:39 |
| schestowitz | who probably already heard of it | Sep 29 09:39 |
| MinceR | problem solved :> | Sep 29 09:40 |
| XRevan86 | I did hear about it indeed. | Sep 29 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/781466469620076548 | Sep 29 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/iQ5LBHhi6b | Sep 29 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 09:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 29 09:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781487302153474048 | Sep 29 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.5 https://t.co/9tDxTdqMEn | Sep 29 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) | Sep 29 09:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 09:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.5 « codeblog | Sep 29 09:40 | |
| XRevan86 | http://newsru.com/russia/27sep2016/fontanka.html corresponding article in Russian | Sep 29 09:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: Раскрывшего "карусель" на выборах в Петербурге корреспондента "Фонтанки" будут судить [ http://ur1.ca/ptc5z ] | Sep 29 09:44 | |
| XRevan86 | Last paragraph from newsru.com to confuse even more: | Sep 29 09:48 |
| XRevan86 | > Later "Fontanka" (remak: that's the newpaper that did the check) found out that electional bulletins were illegally distributed by a citizen of Ukraine who wasn't a member of the committee. The paper wrote that she's 31-year old Natalia Mashina who works as a barber in St. Petersburg. | Sep 29 09:48 |
| XRevan86 | "citizen of Ukraine" might actually mean that she was pressured to do so to get an RF citizenship or something. | Sep 29 09:50 |
| XRevan86 | Or not, I have no clue. | Sep 29 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781488814787293184 | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Hubs: Getting started https://t.co/3OsCu5JfIl | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (communityblog.fedoraproject.org) | Sep 29 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-hubs-getting-started/ ) | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781489856283279360 | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The future of GNOME Calendar https://t.co/H2eDsYyaH7 | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (feaneron.com) | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | The future of GNOME Calendar | Georges Stavracas | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781495707085791232 | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alphabet's Plans to Create Android PCs Should Make | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft a Little Nervous https://t.co/jAll8XVev1 | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (realmoney.thestreet.com) | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-realmoney.thestreet.com | Alphabet's Plans to Create Android PCs Should Make Microsoft a Little Nervous | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781496624346529792 | Sep 29 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Tiny Internet Project, Part I https://t.co/CyrHOGY7MK | Sep 29 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Sep 29 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | The Tiny Internet Project, Part I | Linux Journal | Sep 29 10:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781496920355250176 | Sep 29 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.18 Tool for Creating Snaps | Sep 29 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/3Da8jPZJNR | Sep 29 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.18 Tool for Creating Snaps in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Sep 29 10:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781496970888220673 | Sep 29 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint's XApps to Get Screen Blanking, Sublime-like | Sep 29 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Search Bar Lands for Xed https://t.co/kqCXHic6BJ | Sep 29 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint's XApps to Get Screen Blanking, Sublime-like Search Bar Lands for Xed | Sep 29 10:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781497194968969220 | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sony Xperia X Compact review: Small Android is still | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | good, but not much better https://t.co/nUOQcimsOj | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (arstechnica.com) | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Sony Xperia X Compact review: Small Android is still good, but not much better | Ars Technica | Sep 29 10:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498609954992128 | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More on Russia Moving to FOSS https://t.co/M1hrGYhp5H | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on Russia Moving to FOSS | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498611163025408 | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux/FOSS Events https://t.co/daekKFZOkb | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux/FOSS Events | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:19 | |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1412.html | Sep 29 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids [ http://ur1.ca/ptcd7 ] | Sep 29 10:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498612492611585 | Sep 29 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/Yt2zuPLpjI | Sep 29 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498613490790401 | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/XprLtsb4N6 | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498614539431936 | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/JRVWvENtWX | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781499156250656769 | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with LibreOffice 5.2.2 https://t.co/3ksUHZeU7R | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity with LibreOffice 5.2.2 | Sep 29 10:24 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 29 10:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781499669226610688 | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Osiris: New Dawn', a graphically impressive multiplayer | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | adventure and survival game coming to Linux | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vI1qam12b1 (error) | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/osiris-new-dawn-a-graphically-impressive-multiplayer-adventure-and-survival-game-coming-to-linux.8201 ) | Sep 29 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781500329011605504 | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Sunless Skies', the next game after 'Sunless Sea' to | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support Linux, will go to Kickstarter next year | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5j5t9W9edo (error) | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/sunless-skies-the-next-game-after-sunless-sea-to-support-linux-will-go-to-kickstarter-next-year.8202 ) | Sep 29 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781500911604596736 | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II, Chaos Rising and | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Retribution released for Linux, port report and thoughts | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CtEQ15vofp (error) | Sep 29 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-ii-chaos-rising-and-retribution-released-for-linux-port-report-and-thoughts.8205 ) | Sep 29 10:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @crowdassistco favourited ''Sunless Skies', the next game after 'Sunless Sea'...' | Sep 29 11:07 | |
| MinceR | https://66.media.tumblr.com/1f96ac30b174119209efc128fd97ec02/tumblr_odckapv2Ok1tlb56zo1_400.gif | Sep 29 11:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sda729/status/781515777035816960 | Sep 29 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sda729: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka & more WallSt shenanigans, like monetizing our collective psychosis of cellphone addiction https://t.co/N24mTkFmPA | Sep 29 11:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @devpytech favourited '5 Strange Linux Distributions That Are Useful In...' | Sep 29 11:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Robert_Waters1 followed @tuxmachines | Sep 29 11:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.18 Tool for Creating Snaps...' | Sep 29 11:43 | |
| -->acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 11:47 | |
| <--MarkBilk has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 29 12:06 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Jj5SRRX | Sep 29 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msg_crappy_application - Imgur | Sep 29 12:19 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 29 12:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Mint's XApps to Get Screen Blanking, Sublime-like...' | Sep 29 12:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity...' | Sep 29 12:36 | |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 29 12:46 | |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 12:50 | |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 29 12:50 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 12:53 | |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 12:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CrowdInvestFeed followed @tuxmachines | Sep 29 13:02 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 13:07 | |
| cubexyz | wow, finally managed to get the file | Sep 29 13:23 |
| cubexyz | anyone ever notice alsamixer doesn't work all that well with konsole? | Sep 29 13:26 |
| cubexyz | it works correctly in xterm | Sep 29 13:27 |
| MinceR | https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8979552000/h01F22837/ | Sep 29 13:29 |
| MinceR | i haven't used konsole in ages | Sep 29 13:29 |
| MinceR | well, perhaps a bit less than 'ages', but then only on a rpi that is not connected to any sort of audio output device | Sep 29 13:30 |
| cubexyz | ha, I read that as "El Annoyo" | Sep 29 13:30 |
| cubexyz | what do you use? | Sep 29 13:30 |
| MinceR | terminator | Sep 29 13:31 |
| cubexyz | hmmm... "initial gtk3 port for the brave" | Sep 29 13:35 |
| cubexyz | if I buy this Oboe concert CD I have no way to tell if it's piano or harpsichord :-/ | Sep 29 13:42 |
| cubexyz | I like konsole because I can do colour coded tabs for each session: | Sep 29 13:43 |
| cubexyz | http://wwwhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png | Sep 29 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'wwwhttp:' ( status 0 @ http://wwwhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png ) | Sep 29 13:43 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png | Sep 29 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png ) | Sep 29 13:44 | |
| cubexyz | for f**k's sake | Sep 29 13:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png | Sep 29 13:44 |
| MinceR | s/brave/masochist/ | Sep 29 13:46 |
| cubexyz | yeah can't use konsole for everything | Sep 29 13:53 |
| cubexyz | ok, limited time only... the original CPE Bach essay on keyboard instruments in the original 18th century German :) | Sep 29 13:56 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bach-cpe-versuch-ber-die-wahre-art-das-claiver-zu-spielen.pdf | Sep 29 13:57 |
| cubexyz | that is one formidable typeface :) | Sep 29 14:00 |
| MinceR | that'll take a while to load | Sep 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | I might put it up on archive.org | Sep 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | 18th century should be safe from copyright | Sep 29 14:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 29 14:02 |
| MinceR | ah yes, fraktur | Sep 29 14:06 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/15dlTJO | Sep 29 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oh no? Oh no. - GIF on Imgur | Sep 29 14:09 | |
| cubexyz | imgur.com just kills my poor P3 with 512 megs of ram | Sep 29 14:12 |
| -->c0mms (~c0mms@46.165.208.107) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 14:12 | |
| MinceR | :( | Sep 29 14:13 |
| MinceR | it has gone south a while ago | Sep 29 14:13 |
| cubexyz | terminator doesn't seem to pass wall messages | Sep 29 14:21 |
| cubexyz | konsole doesn't either... that's why I can't always use konsole | Sep 29 14:22 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 29 14:34 |
| MinceR | i thought i did see them | Sep 29 14:34 |
| MinceR | but maybe that was in tmux running in terminator | Sep 29 14:34 |
| cubexyz | https://archive.org/download/bach-cpe-versuch-ber-die-wahre-art-das-claiver-zu-spielen/bach-cpe-versuch-ber-die-wahre-art-das-claiver-zu-spielen.pdf | Sep 29 14:35 |
| <--c0mms has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) | Sep 29 14:40 | |
| cubexyz | I uploaded some old popular science magazines and some computer world's | Sep 29 14:41 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dzGCX1d.jpg | Sep 29 14:41 |
| cubexyz | ouch | Sep 29 14:43 |
| cubexyz | and then another guy tried the same thing: | Sep 29 14:47 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Donovan_%28bridge_jumper%29#Fatal_jump | Sep 29 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Larry Donovan (bridge jumper) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 29 14:47 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 14:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/781539637848309760 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk Important Bug Fixes https://t.co/7Aly2H5yZ0 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with Important Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781574056487235585 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with LibreOffice 5.2.2 https://t.co/xgzLNnHZ1Y | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity with LibreOffice 5.2.2 | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781574057753849856 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | hybrid cloud https://t.co/HM1sLk1mg3 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and hybrid cloud | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/sTQTg7j | Sep 29 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Agree - Imgur | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781574059070939136 | Sep 29 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! https://t.co/mhyQYtzeeU | Sep 29 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781574060203311104 | Sep 29 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/YmYH2tJaKj | Sep 29 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:31 | |
| MinceR | > systemd is on the move! http://67.media.tumblr.com/4bfb4943f0691b15d93bfac44562296f/tumblr_nzghsrUIbI1us21qco1_500.gif | Sep 29 16:03 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 29 16:03 |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 29 16:08 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9xVz8tf.jpg | Sep 29 16:10 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 16:11 | |
| <--MarkBilk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 29 16:16 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 16:16 | |
| <--MarkBilk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 29 16:22 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@c-73-231-87-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 16:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/781523184550047744 | Sep 29 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz meeting was today, but have a hard time to find the video recordings. | Sep 29 16:25 | |
| schestowitz | [17:19] <MinceR> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Jj5SRRX | Sep 29 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msg_crappy_application - Imgur | Sep 29 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | [17:19] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- msg_crappy_application - Imgur | Sep 29 16:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't get it | Sep 29 16:46 |
| MinceR | all the labels are msg_something instead of their intended content | Sep 29 16:48 |
| cubexyz | what was the name of the program? | Sep 29 16:48 |
| cubexyz | I assume it's name isn't msg_crappy_application :) | Sep 29 16:49 |
| cubexyz | and I got a windows 10 ad | Sep 29 16:50 |
| cubexyz | "...get a great price on a yoga 900" | Sep 29 16:51 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 29 16:51 |
| MinceR | dunno | Sep 29 16:53 |
| <--schestowitz_log_ has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | Sep 29 16:53 | |
| -->schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 16:53 | |
| MinceR | some sony crap | Sep 29 16:53 |
| MinceR | probably playstation brand | Sep 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz | yes, it did look dodgy | Sep 29 16:55 |
| schestowitz | but not quite so hilarious, that's all | Sep 29 16:55 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 29 16:57 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 16:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity...' | Sep 29 17:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LLesleyThomas followed @tuxmachines | Sep 29 17:04 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 29 17:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781600525691289601 | Sep 29 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google delays launch of Android Wear 2.0 to next year | Sep 29 17:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oww0IwjkLA (www.theverge.com) | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 17:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google delays launch of Android Wear 2.0 to next year - The Verge | Sep 29 17:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781600700933496832 | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Luna Launcher turns your Android phone into a | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kid-friendly device https://t.co/In00vtWUY4 | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techcrunch.com) | Sep 29 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Luna Launcher turns your Android phone into a kid-friendly device | TechCrunch | Sep 29 17:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 17:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781600794000973824 | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in the works | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uTUWWKPmDh (betanews.com) | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 17:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in the works | Sep 29 17:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781601112159813632 | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Huawei will introduce its next flagship on November 3 | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zDccVBMsrF (www.androidauthority.com) | Sep 29 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 17:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Huawei will introduce its next flagship on November 3 - Android Authority | Sep 29 17:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781601405236830208 | Sep 29 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OVS 2.6 and The First Release of OVN | Sep 29 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fPqamPYrdb (blog.russellbryant.net) | Sep 29 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 17:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.russellbryant.net | OVS 2.6 and The First Release of OVN | Russell Bryant | Sep 29 17:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ValeriAnzalone retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in...' | Sep 29 17:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Spotted in Lenovo's support forum this morning. Apparently, Lenovo's "warranty" service means you ship off your computer to a black hole and never get it back. This isn't the first horror story I've heard about their warranty service. | Sep 29 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… | Sep 29 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | rlynnb | Sep 29 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Can't Seem to Tell Me What's Wrong with my Computer! [ 09-29-2016 01:57 PM | Sep 29 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | I purchased a Y700 in April. (New from Best Buy) By June, it had started shutting itself off and rebooting. By July, it had gotten to the point, where it would not stay on at all. I sent it in for repairs. I have called multiple times and I have been told that the hard drive was bad, that the motherboard was bad, that the OS won't work. I JUST bought this machine! They also cannot tell me when I will get it back. For weeks, I have been told | Sep 29 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… ) | Sep 29 17:31 | |
| DaemonFC | that the parts are on backorder. Seriously? | Sep 29 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, I was sold a defective machine. I have asked for a refund. Has anyone in here actually received a refund? | Sep 29 17:31 |
| <--acer-box______ has quit (Ping timeout: 263 seconds) | Sep 29 17:31 | |
| -->acer-box (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 17:34 | |
| MinceR | http://giphy.com/gifs/ssOa1XSMve0mI | Sep 29 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Drawing GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY | Sep 29 17:35 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/554md5/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Sep 29 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. [x-post from /r/lenovo] : technology | Sep 29 17:41 | |
| MinceR | that's an interesting "solution" | Sep 29 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Stuck in a customer service vindaloop. :) | Sep 29 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chicago is raising the tax on water again. | Sep 29 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | By $254 million. To go to teacher pensions. | Sep 29 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | And they got $210 million from Illinois as a bailout. | Sep 29 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | They asked the teachers union to take a small cut, so they authorized a teacher strike to begin on October 11. | Sep 29 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | Their union said that as long as the government can take more money from taxpayers, they should do that instead. | Sep 29 18:04 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/PElA4kv.jpg | Sep 29 18:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @madisoncrooksh1 favourited 'OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in...' | Sep 29 18:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781618114584805376 | Sep 29 18:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How I Use Android: Android Central Editor Emeritus Phil | Sep 29 18:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nickinson https://t.co/s40Klu1ZIP (www.computerworld.com) | Sep 29 18:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 18:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I Use Android: Android Central Editor Emeritus Phil Nickinson | Computerworld | Sep 29 18:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781618267030970368 | Sep 29 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phones Under 5.7 Inches | Sep 29 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iKcnu2omPk (www.androidcentral.com) | Sep 29 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 18:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phones Under 5.7 Inches | Android Central | Sep 29 18:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781618447046348804 | Sep 29 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! https://t.co/oqy28liMtj | Sep 29 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.qubes-os.org) | Sep 29 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qubes-os.org | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! | Qubes OS Project | Sep 29 18:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 18:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781620019197255680 | Sep 29 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and | Sep 29 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | servers https://t.co/fSXMb0pqIF (www.zdnet.com) | Sep 29 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 18:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and hybrid cloud | ZDNet | Sep 29 18:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781620903306227712 | Sep 29 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Hybrid Wars', a futuristic top-down mech shooter | Sep 29 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released with day-1 Linux support https://t.co/wrt6Ln1qS6 | Sep 29 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 29 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/hybrid-wars-a-futuristic-top-down-mech-shooter-released-with-day-1-linux-support-.8211 ) | Sep 29 18:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 18:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited ''Hybrid Wars', a futuristic top-down mech shooter released...' | Sep 29 18:31 | |
| cubexyz | I don't think I've seen any laptop I call easy to repair | Sep 29 18:40 |
| razielle_tzu | me neither | Sep 29 18:40 |
| schestowitz | [22:31] <DaemonFC> https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… | Sep 29 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… ) | Sep 29 18:42 | |
| schestowitz | bad link | Sep 29 18:42 |
| schestowitz | I cannot open this | Sep 29 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They removed it from technology. | Sep 29 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's still up in lenovo I think | Sep 29 18:42 |
| cubexyz | building the pitop took this one person 3 hours | Sep 29 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | from abrownn [M] via /r/technology sent 49 minutes ago | Sep 29 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for the following reason(s): | Sep 29 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | Rule #1.vi: This submission is about one or more incidents of requesting customer support or is providing customer feedback about a product, company or service. | Sep 29 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | If you have any questions, please message the moderators and include the link to the submission. We apologize for the inconvenience. | Sep 29 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Sep 29 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : Lenovo | Sep 29 18:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781622396763643908 | Sep 29 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Budgie Remix 16.10 Beta 2 Officially Released with | Sep 29 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Budgie Desktop 10.2.7 https://t.co/ogxYdJQtJK | Sep 29 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 18:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Budgie Remix 16.10 Beta 2 Officially Released with Budgie Desktop 10.2.7 | Sep 29 18:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Budgie Remix 16.10 Beta 2 Officially Released...' | Sep 29 18:45 | |
| cubexyz | repasting the CPU is a bit of a foreign concept for me | Sep 29 18:46 |
| cubexyz | most heat is produced in the middle of the processor heatspreader | Sep 29 18:49 |
| cubexyz | ummm, a laptop might not have a heat spreader on the cpu | Sep 29 18:50 |
| cubexyz | anyways the old slot 1's have been running for 18 years | Sep 29 18:51 |
| cubexyz | and those did have a heat spreader | Sep 29 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | 1 min · | Sep 29 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | The House and Senate both voted to override President Obama's veto of JASTA, which will now allow victims of 9/11 to sue Saudi Arabia. | Sep 29 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote to both of Illinois' Senators and my Congresswoman to ask them all to override the President's veto. Our "alliance" with Saudi Arabia is inexcusable considering their human rights record. For many Saudis, it's as bad as living in Iran. The only reason that the US turned a blind eye to so many human rights abuses and the link between Saudi officials and 9/11 is because we needed their oil. | Sep 29 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | We need to reduce our consumption of oil for many reasons, but one of them is so that we no longer have to tolerate state sponsors of terrorism such as Saudi Arabia for fear of an oil embargo. | Sep 29 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/30/world/middleeast/chagrined-by-9-11-victims-law-saudis-rethink-us-alliance.html?_r=0 | Sep 29 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times | Sep 29 18:55 | |
| cubexyz | got to go with the HP NX9030 as the longevity champ for laptops | Sep 29 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, This might be embarrassing to Linus Torvalds. | Sep 29 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | He reportedly praised the Yoga 900 before going with the Dell XPS. | Sep 29 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-reveals-his-favorite-programming-laptop/ | Sep 29 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds reveals his favorite programming laptop | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/ptf8i ] | Sep 29 19:03 | |
| DaemonFC | The prior model, it seems. | Sep 29 19:03 |
| cubexyz | most likely | Sep 29 19:03 |
| MinceR | dHell garbage | Sep 29 19:03 |
| MinceR | how long until it falls to tiny pieces? 1 year? 2? | Sep 29 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It seems that Dell also charge $150 more for the one that comes with Ubuntu. | Sep 29 19:04 |
| cubexyz | ah, my Dell GX100 still works fine :) | Sep 29 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | So it's cheaper to buy Windows and then format it off the drive. | Sep 29 19:04 |
| MinceR | of course | Sep 29 19:04 |
| MinceR | selling it cheaper by the cost of a winblows license would be the honest thing to do | Sep 29 19:04 |
| cubexyz | 2001 era, original power supply | Sep 29 19:04 |
| MinceR | honesty is not the dHell way | Sep 29 19:04 |
| MinceR | making you pay extra for a turd shaped roughly like a computer and then revealing that there's no warranty is the dHell way | Sep 29 19:05 |
| cubexyz | I emailed Michael Dell for the BIOS source code, but didn't get a reply | Sep 29 19:05 |
| MinceR | as expected | Sep 29 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently, it's cheaper to use Windows. | Sep 29 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | They pay the Windows license, but make their money back and then some with crapware. | Sep 29 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft signs deals with large OEMs. They probably get Windows for $30-40 a copy. | Sep 29 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | Then they offer a crapware free version (signature) for more money. | Sep 29 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that they make you pay as much to get the one without crapware as they would have made off of you if you had registered the crapware. | Sep 29 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with Microsoft to the extent that they say that crapware makes a new computer slower and less reliable. | Sep 29 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | Buy they *could* ban it in the Windows license. | Sep 29 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, they let OEMs charge more for PCs that come without it. | Sep 29 19:08 |
| MinceR | why would they do that? | Sep 29 19:08 |
| MinceR | they don't care about customers | Sep 29 19:08 |
| MinceR | all they care about is power and money | Sep 29 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They obviously want to be more like Apple. | Sep 29 19:09 |
| MinceR | they're pretty much the same already | Sep 29 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | They say Windows 10 is the last version of Windows. They're doing this thing like Apple did with "OS X" where it's always OS X now. | Sep 29 19:09 |
| MinceR | m$ and crApple should both be closed down so they can make good on that promise | Sep 29 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | MSFT pulls support for older builds almost immediately now. | Sep 29 19:10 |
| cubexyz | another deficiency of Dell is their BIOS updates, which are windows only | Sep 29 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | They release a few cumulative updates for people who haven't gotten the latest major update to Windows 10, and then drop the previous build. | Sep 29 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, That's not true. | Sep 29 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | They have a BIOS flashing mechanism for Linux. | Sep 29 19:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, it _was_ true | Sep 29 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why it would matter. | Sep 29 19:11 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't trust uefi updates anyway | Sep 29 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | uEFI *should* have an update mechanism from within the firmware setup menu. | Sep 29 19:11 |
| MinceR | any of them could lock out gnu/linux and bsd | Sep 29 19:11 |
| cubexyz | for the Dell GX-110 which I just mentioned | Sep 29 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | Some OEMs disable it though. | Sep 29 19:11 |
| MinceR | no, uefi should not exist | Sep 29 19:11 |
| MinceR | the people who came up with it shouldn't have been born | Sep 29 19:12 |
| cubexyz | they wrapped the BIOS image in a windows-32 executable | Sep 29 19:12 |
| MinceR | none of this crap has any business existing in the IT industry, killing it | Sep 29 19:13 |
| MinceR | and killing our society | Sep 29 19:13 |
| cubexyz | there's an msdos version also, so yeah freedos might work | Sep 29 19:15 |
| cubexyz | Phoenix bios I think it was | Sep 29 19:17 |
| cubexyz | guess I could try nagging Phoenix for the BIOS source code | Sep 29 19:25 |
| cubexyz | none of my previous attempts at that were sucessful though | Sep 29 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781629863472009216 | Sep 29 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4 of the Best Linux Distros for Windows Users | Sep 29 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oCSd4po0CJ (www.maketecheasier.com) | Sep 29 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 19:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 4 of the Best Linux Distros for Windows Users - Make Tech Easier | Sep 29 19:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781633754699853824 | Sep 29 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro | Sep 29 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nZDqbgm96x (www.linux.com) | Sep 29 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 19:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 29 19:27 | |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-self-driving-cars-are-tremendously-dumb-idea/ | Sep 29 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 Ways Driverless Cars Are Going To Kill Lots Of People | Cracked.com | Sep 29 19:28 | |
| cubexyz | a few years back there were complains about USB 2.0 devices not booting on phoenix bios | Sep 29 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Uber makes you agree that they won't be held liable for death or injury before you can get a ride in a driverless car. | Sep 29 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | What does that tell you? | Sep 29 19:36 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 29 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be taking the bus or the L or Metra. | Sep 29 19:37 |
| MinceR | but it will get worse | Sep 29 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | Uber canceled on us AGAIN the other day. | Sep 29 19:37 |
| MinceR | eventually m$, crApple and ratcrap will get into the business | Sep 29 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then when we brought up the app again, SURGE PRICING was in effect. | Sep 29 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | What a coincidence. | Sep 29 19:37 |
| MinceR | you can guess what will happen then | Sep 29 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | Drivers cancel immediately when they see the surge notice because then they can get 2.5 times the normal fare. | Sep 29 19:38 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I want my ride to have literal BSOD | Sep 29 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | Uber says it's not allowed, but they are doing it, and kep doing it, and Uber never does anything about it. | Sep 29 19:38 |
| MinceR | it will get much worse than BSOD | Sep 29 19:39 |
| MinceR | they'll ram pedestrians, other cars and buildings | Sep 29 19:39 |
| cubexyz | Phoenix also had HyperSpace and HyperCore, I wonder what happened to that | Sep 29 19:42 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Sep 29 19:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'en.wikipedihttps:' ( status 0 @ https://en.wikipedihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 ) | Sep 29 19:42 | |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Sep 29 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 ) | Sep 29 19:43 | |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Sep 29 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | HyperSpace (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 29 19:43 | |
| cubexyz | blah | Sep 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StuckJake/status/781639819860389888 | Sep 29 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@StuckJake: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Richard stallman eh? do you use KDE or gnome | Sep 29 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | Neither. Openbox. | Sep 29 19:44 |
| cubexyz | anyways back in the day Lenovo IdeaPad S10 had Hyperspace | Sep 29 19:46 |
| cubexyz | it was a really runty laptop :) | Sep 29 19:47 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 29 19:49 | |
| MinceR | i like runty | Sep 29 19:51 |
| MinceR | too bad they're gone now | Sep 29 19:51 |
| MinceR | everybody wants to lug huge displays around | Sep 29 19:52 |
| MinceR | preferably with low resolution | Sep 29 19:52 |
| cubexyz | btw Lenovo did another bad thing... | Sep 29 20:04 |
| razielle_tzu | what this time? | Sep 29 20:04 |
| cubexyz | on the x60 and t60's the original BIOS had a unique unrecoverable ID | Sep 29 20:05 |
| cubexyz | this ID had to be present or the laptop would not boot | Sep 29 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781636506859495424 | Sep 29 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 Doesn't Change Much With Performance, Clear | Sep 29 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Still Leads In Most Tests https://t.co/75tNzE6izR | Sep 29 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 29 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu 16.10 Doesn't Change Much With Performance, Clear Linux Still Leads In Most Tests - Phoronix | Sep 29 20:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:06 | |
| cubexyz | replacing the Lenovo BIOS with coreboot would fix this... but it was not an easy procedure | Sep 29 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781637228938362881 | Sep 29 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Endless OS 3: Linux for the Net Less | Sep 29 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JgANsZlCob (fossforce.com) | Sep 29 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Endless OS 3: Linux for the Net Less | FOSS Force | Sep 29 20:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781637452234645504 | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu's Shuttleworth Explains Why Not All Containers are | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Same https://t.co/wEbeA55DQi (www.datamation.com) | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu's Shuttleworth Explains Why Not All Containers are the Same - Datamation | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646411251130368 | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla's Rust 1.12 https://t.co/5DbTYyGUee | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla's Rust 1.12 | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646412526133248 | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 Doesn't Change Much With Performance, Clear | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Still Leads In Most Tests https://t.co/XGuMIWNW8n | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 Doesn't Change Much With Performance, Clear Linux Still Leads In Most Tests | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646413587329024 | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics: Mesa and Gallium3D | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8l43koQYoz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics: Mesa and Gallium3D | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646414686277633 | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/raRjJ81kMO | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 20:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:07 | |
| cubexyz | probably worth it to pay the extra $$$ and get minifree to do it | Sep 29 20:07 |
| MinceR | nasty | Sep 29 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | If you haven't switched away from Adblock Plus to ublock-origin yet, you may want to. Adblock Plus is now not only whitelisting "acceptable ads", they're taking payments from ad companies to run their ads on web pages, bypassing Adblock Plus entirely. | Sep 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/13/12890050/adblock-plus-now-sells-ads | Sep 29 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Adblock Plus now sells ads - The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/ptfnq ] | Sep 29 20:33 | |
| MinceR | what about ABP forks like ABE? | Sep 29 20:34 |
| MinceR | i have "acceptable ads" turned off already | Sep 29 20:36 |
| MinceR | also, does ublock origin block youtube ads? | Sep 29 20:37 |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 29 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they would shoot themselves in the foot | Sep 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | esp. if they enforce this | Sep 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | it's not hard to copy them and make an alternative, some already exist | Sep 29 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It can block everything Adblock Plus can but uses fewer resources. | Sep 29 20:47 |
| MinceR | nice, i'll give it a try | Sep 29 20:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/johnnie789/status/781659079479402496 | Sep 29 20:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnnie789: @schestowitz @wikileaks @realDonaldTrump IS that 3rd Party candidate running as a Republican who hate him Dr. Expect a landslide | Sep 29 20:57 | |
| schestowitz | trump idiots | Sep 29 20:58 |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 29 20:58 | |
| DaemonFC | I suppose I'll vote for Hillary Clinton. | Sep 29 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | I have my reasons. The idea of Donald Trump appointing a Supreme Court full of Republicans that rubber stamp his entire presidency and then give us a conservative majority on the nation's highest court for 20 years or more doesn't sit well with me. | Sep 29 21:00 |
| MinceR | yeah, there aren't any really good choices there | Sep 29 21:03 |
| MinceR | as long as the majority believes only the Megacorporate Party exists | Sep 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7905708 | Sep 29 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The future of GNOME Calendar https://feaneron.com/2016/09/28/the-future-of-gnome-calendar/ | Sep 29 21:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 29 21:04 |
| schestowitz | “What will be removed? - Nothing (just a bait for the trolls)” | Sep 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | I miss transparent background in my gnome-terminal :( | Sep 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 29 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> feaneron.com | The future of GNOME Calendar | Georges Stavracas | Sep 29 21:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Just use the right distribution. The Fedora maintainers still add the transparency function to gnome-terminal. ;-)' | Sep 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | "Ubuntu does the same, but removing a working feature is just…' | Sep 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | "Ubuntu too? Good to know. I don’t think that removing a feature is always a bad idea but in this case definitely." | Sep 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Does anyone here still use GNOME? | Sep 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | i never do, not even the things that are close to gnome3 and 2 branches | Sep 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | [01:59] <DaemonFC> I suppose I'll vote for Hillary Clinton. | Sep 29 21:05 |
| schestowitz | I remember you went from house to house campaigning for Obama | Sep 29 21:06 |
| schestowitz | didn't work out so well, did it? | Sep 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I did. In Huntington, Indiana to boot. Talk about risking your life. | Sep 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | Bunch of meth houses and hillbillies. Some good people there though. | Sep 29 21:06 |
| schestowitz | unless "not starting nuclear war" is an accomplishment | Sep 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Trump has openly considered nuclear attacks on various targets. | Sep 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | Asking why we couldn't do it... that sort of thing. | Sep 29 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | We haven't even had any nuclear weapons tests since 1992. We couldn't guarantee that any particular weapon could work at this point. | Sep 29 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | We probably have a few duds. | Sep 29 21:07 |
| schestowitz | yeah, a good thing for sure | Sep 29 21:08 |
| schestowitz | BUT... | Sep 29 21:08 |
| schestowitz | guess who signed to modernise this? | Sep 29 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Obama | Sep 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | IIRC, there was even a situation where they needed a special tool to work on the weapons and they only had one left and kept mailing it from base to base. | Sep 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Sep 29 21:08 |
| schestowitz | 1 trillion dollars? | Sep 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | But that's the government for you. | Sep 29 21:08 |
| schestowitz | right around the time he visited hiroshima | Sep 29 21:08 |
| schestowitz | maybe nagasaki too | Sep 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm in favor of bringing the count down, but we have to know that the ones we have work. | Sep 29 21:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you and G W Bush will have something in common | Sep 29 21:09 |
| schestowitz | you'll both support HRC for pres | Sep 29 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | We have more than that in common. | Sep 29 21:09 |
| schestowitz | campaign for Greens insread | Sep 29 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Look at how many nukes were scrapped under George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush. | Sep 29 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Then compare that number with Obama. | Sep 29 21:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7907982 | Sep 29 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro https://www.linux.com/news/googles-open-source-fuchsia-os-mystery-linux-distro | Sep 29 21:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Well, having dumped gmail, google.com and being smart enough to never get into google+ – good luck getting me to use ~the surveillance state~ Google distro. ;-)" | Sep 29 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro | Linux.com | The source for Linux information [ http://ur1.ca/ptfub ] | Sep 29 21:10 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: obama is nobel for peace winner | Sep 29 21:10 |
| schestowitz | don't make fun | Sep 29 21:10 |
| MinceR | i use fvwm with some xfce components (mainly xfce4-panel) | Sep 29 21:10 |
| schestowitz | he and kissinger now endorse HRC | Sep 29 21:10 |
| schestowitz | the "peace" Pres | Sep 29 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Of course we have a lot of questionable weapons programs in development, like Prompt Global Strike. | Sep 29 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | The non-nuclear ICBM that could easily set off early warning counterattack systems. | Sep 29 21:10 |
| MinceR | and you probably need them too | Sep 29 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | Really expensive. | Sep 29 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's better to just launch cruise missiles from ships. | Sep 29 21:11 |
| MinceR | after humanity managed to arm all sorts of volatile religious nutcases with nuclear devices | Sep 29 21:11 |
| MinceR | like putler | Sep 29 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | Or submarines. You can launch the Tomahawk from a submarine. | Sep 29 21:11 |
| schestowitz | pakistan | Sep 29 21:11 |
| MinceR | and we still only have one earth | Sep 29 21:11 |
| MinceR | but this somehow can't penetrate the skulls of these bible-fucking morons | Sep 29 21:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I saw a docu on it | Sep 29 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I think PGS is a bad idea for many reasons. | Sep 29 21:11 |
| schestowitz | how they stay under water now when they launch the missiles | Sep 29 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | Cost and having to phone Russia and China to tell them it's not a nuke and it's not going after them... | Sep 29 21:12 |
| MinceR | if it can glass russia with less fallout and carbon black, i'm all for it | Sep 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | from subs though the missiles aren't that massive | Sep 29 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | They have minutes to figure that out. Once it's in orbit, it could come down anywhere. | Sep 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | and probably won't cluster in high altitude to evade defence systems | Sep 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | so the sub needs to be fairly close to the target | Sep 29 21:12 |
| MinceR | those savages should have known better than let that nutcase grab power | Sep 29 21:13 |
| schestowitz | standard cruise missiles aren't all that useful | Sep 29 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Or drones. We've shown that we can hit a target with drones pretty easily. | Sep 29 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | Even if the enemy shoots it down, it was unmanned. | Sep 29 21:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no | Sep 29 21:13 |
| schestowitz | not a target | Sep 29 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | They don't kill or capture a pilot. | Sep 29 21:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-strikes_us_561fafe2e4b028dd7ea6c4ff | Sep 29 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Nearly 90 Percent Of People Killed In Recent Drone Strikes Were Not The Target | Huffington Post [ http://ur1.ca/ptfuy ] | Sep 29 21:13 | |
| schestowitz | unless by target you mean that and 10 times "other stuff" | Sep 29 21:13 |
| MinceR | they capture a computerized implementation, helping them exploit holes in it | Sep 29 21:13 |
| MinceR | unless it manages to self-destruct every time | Sep 29 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't see any reason to trust those numbers. | Sep 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | iran allegedly cracked us drones | Sep 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | I think they ran Windows at the time | Sep 29 21:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | and iran got some binaries left on their system from the US | Sep 29 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They didn't exploit that. | Sep 29 21:14 |
| MinceR | what could possibly go wrong? | Sep 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | which they then weaponised against the US (reportedly) | Sep 29 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | They interfered with the GPS and tricked it into landing in Iran. | Sep 29 21:14 |
| MinceR | we let those simpletons in redmond program killing devices, great | Sep 29 21:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that's exploit, too | Sep 29 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The stuxnet malware actually did its job pretty well. | Sep 29 21:15 |
| MinceR | who are too retarded to understand that stuffing multiple unrelated services in one process is not "hardened" or even "secure" | Sep 29 21:15 |
| schestowitz | if the drone isn't sanitising or verifying input | Sep 29 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | Managed to destroy a lot of expensive machinery before they figured out what hit them. | Sep 29 21:15 |
| MinceR | or that stuffing an entire GUI in the kernel is also not "hardened", "secure" or even sane | Sep 29 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, svchost? | Sep 29 21:16 |
| MinceR | yup | Sep 29 21:16 |
| MinceR | led by dave cutler whose entire achievement in IT is "hurr durr, i hate unix" | Sep 29 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it does lower overhead, but it opens up a can of worms elsewhere. | Sep 29 21:16 |
| schestowitz | give the penguin viagra and it's hardened | Sep 29 21:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, by eliminating memory protection | Sep 29 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | One service crashing can bring down the other services running in the process. | Sep 29 21:16 |
| MinceR | one service being exploited gives easy access to the others | Sep 29 21:16 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: or find some in Gonad's cardboard, when Lady Harmon ain't watching | Sep 29 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Sep 29 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Sep 29 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I took one of those just for the hell of it. | Sep 29 21:17 |
| schestowitz | it'll be hardened for a whole afternoon | Sep 29 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | That was a mistake. | Sep 29 21:17 |
| MinceR | it's incredible that we as a species somehow managed to find the most destructive morons and gave them all this power | Sep 29 21:17 |
| schestowitz | what, viagra? | Sep 29 21:17 |
| MinceR | despite having several hundred (thousand? more?) bright people | Sep 29 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah. I didn't need it. | Sep 29 21:18 |
| schestowitz | (re: all this power) | Sep 29 21:18 |
| schestowitz | aing | Sep 29 21:18 |
| schestowitz | zing | Sep 29 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I grabbed them while we were getting all of mom's stuff out of that house while Gonad was at work. | Sep 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | but then, this problem will fix itself | Sep 29 21:18 |
| schestowitz | not for extinct animals | Sep 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | or for extinct humans | Sep 29 21:18 |
| schestowitz | they won't repopulate when we all kill each other | Sep 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | or for extinct eukaryotes | Sep 29 21:18 |
| MinceR | neither will the plants, after going for a few decades without sunlight | Sep 29 21:19 |
| schestowitz | extinct humans it's hard to feel sympaty for | Sep 29 21:19 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 29 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Then the idiot that I was living with managed to get the police in our apartment. They didn't find what they were investigating him for, but they did find Gonad's viagra. | Sep 29 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Trump blames China | Sep 29 21:19 |
| MinceR | why even listen to rump? | Sep 29 21:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't | Sep 29 21:19 |
| MinceR | strings /dev/urandom gives more clueful information | Sep 29 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | I told them that we were cleaning out mom's house so fast that I must have accidentally grabbed them. | Sep 29 21:19 |
| schestowitz | I try to support Greens now, rather than bash what ~80% of US citizens already know is garbage | Sep 29 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't a controlled substance, so they just took them and never filed charges. | Sep 29 21:20 |
| schestowitz | now it's time to promote alternatives to them | Sep 29 21:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I can't believe you do HRC promotion after you did Obama | Sep 29 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Not going door to door. | Sep 29 21:21 |
| MinceR | obama's way of destroying the usa and the world is still far slower than Golden Dawnald's | Sep 29 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | from scootstah [-1] via /r/linux sent 13 minutes ago | Sep 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | show parent | Sep 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | So what does Lenovo have to gain by purposefully fucking over Linux specifically? Keep in mind that Windows is also broken in this configuration until the appropriate drivers are loaded. | Sep 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | To me it just sounds like incompetence the whole way down. It's not a nefarious act. | Sep 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | contextfull comments (172)reportblock usermark unreadreply | Sep 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | It could be incompetence, but the company is really shady. They move customer complaints like "I sent in my laptop four months ago. Where is it?" to a "special interest" forum so people won't see that. | Sep 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Sep 29 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : Lenovo | Sep 29 21:24 | |
| DaemonFC | They quietly moderated the Linux discussion so it doesn't appear locked (the topic about Yoga 900 not running Linux), but you can't post anything to it. | Sep 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | They quietly banned everyone who said they were taking their laptop back for a refund or similar comments. | Sep 29 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | These people are crooks. | Sep 29 21:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: true, but that's not so high a challenge | Sep 29 21:31 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 29 21:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's like saying Orban is a moderate "because Jobbik" | Sep 29 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | brb going to the store | Sep 29 21:32 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 29 21:32 | |
| MinceR | jobbik supported fidesz/kdnp's steps against democracy and rule of law | Sep 29 21:33 |
| MinceR | iirc | Sep 29 21:33 |
| MinceR | they're the same crap | Sep 29 21:33 |
| MinceR | orban merely knows how to mind his tongue better | Sep 29 21:33 |
| schestowitz | is there an eggattack version of the game with Nadella in it? | Sep 29 21:34 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of it | Sep 29 21:34 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S30WdoEHCH4 | Sep 29 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ballmer egg attack! (Hungarian TV2) - YouTube | Sep 29 21:35 | |
| schestowitz | jobbik voter for sure | Sep 29 21:36 |
| schestowitz | him mom packed him his balls | Sep 29 21:36 |
| MinceR | not like that did anything anyway | Sep 29 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646416007483392 | Sep 29 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/etkbKnp0OE | Sep 29 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 21:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Sep 29 21:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781651789548486656 | Sep 29 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME Calendar Pencils In Great New Features | Sep 29 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cCje3XbxuO (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 29 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 21:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | GNOME Calendar Pencils In Great New Features - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 29 21:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781651967571525632 | Sep 29 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | [How To] Build an Ubuntu Controlled Sous-Vide Cooker | Sep 29 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MMhvKsfDQu (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 29 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 21:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | [How To] Build an Ubuntu Controlled Sous-Vide Cooker - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 29 21:51 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: got him arrested | Sep 29 21:54 |
| schestowitz | and famous for a day | Sep 29 21:54 |
| schestowitz | or infamous | Sep 29 21:54 |
| MinceR | didn't even hinder m$'s schemes | Sep 29 21:55 |
| MinceR | nor their corruption in hungary | Sep 29 21:55 |
| MinceR | didn't even make hungarians care about the issue, though that's probably not his fault | Sep 29 22:03 |
| MinceR | well, neither is the rest, i guess | Sep 29 22:03 |
| MinceR | there's still plenty of slavish devotion to m$ in this cesspit of a country | Sep 29 22:03 |
| MinceR | i guess these people are masochists, they want to be oppressed and abused | Sep 29 22:03 |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 22:20 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 29 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781673521755938816 | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 29/9/2016: Russia Moving to FOSS, New Nmap and | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PostgreSQL Releases https://t.co/sqHbCr7wdw | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/9/2016: Russia Moving to FOSS, New Nmap and PostgreSQL Releases | Techrights | Sep 29 22:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683286535876609 | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/e447fJd0tG | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Sep 29 22:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683287878012928 | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/LJ3Ubk4h1K | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Sep 29 22:33 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683289002160128 | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More Android Leftovers https://t.co/uE65sbpMBv | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683290012909569 | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/LPRMBQnVIz | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683291313152001 | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Releases https://t.co/wYqXeIpfuI | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Releases | Tux Machines | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They banned me from posting on the Lenovo Facebook page. I can comment, but it gets deleted immediately. | Sep 29 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | So I used my other account to keep commenting. | Sep 29 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | And they banned me from their forum again because I linked to that customer support post where they've had that person's laptop since June and keep bullshitting them about when it will come back from the repair center. | Sep 29 23:46 |
| -->tessier_ (~treed@kernel-panic/copilotco) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 00:08 | |
| DaemonFC | I left a message on some Spanish language websites talking about Microsoft and Lenovo. | Sep 30 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo y Microsoft trabajaron juntos para asegurarse de que sus equipos de yoga serían incompatibles con Linux. No comprar computadoras de Lenovo. Son un enemigo de su libertad. | Sep 30 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | I had to use Google Translate, so I decided to stay short and to the point. | Sep 30 00:09 |
| <--tessier has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 30 00:11 | |
| DaemonFC | I posted to my Facebook page: | Sep 30 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Before you buy a computer, know this. Lenovo has an entire hidden forum where it moves all of the embarrassing customer service posts so that nobody will ever see how they treat their customers. | Sep 30 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/General-Discussion/bd-p/Special_Interest_General | Sep 30 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | General Discussion - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/ptgpw ] | Sep 30 00:16 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 00:17 | |
| DaemonFC | Like "Why have you had my laptop since June? Everyone tells me a different reason why they can't send it back." | Sep 30 00:18 |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-091-096-176-042.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 00:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @starryg16 favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 30 01:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 30 01:24 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 01:43 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 01:44 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I just reviewed Windows 10 on Amazon. | Sep 30 02:28 |
| -->DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 03:07 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 30 03:11 | |
| -->DaemonFC`` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 03:12 | |
| <--DaemonFC` has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 30 03:16 | |
| <--DaemonFC`` has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 03:17 | |
| -->DaemonFC`` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 03:18 | |
| ---DaemonFC`` is now known as DaemonFC | Sep 30 03:20 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/conspiracy-theorists-think-donald-trump-might-be-andy-kaufman-in-disguise | Sep 30 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nme.com | Is Donald Trump Actually Andy Kaufman In Disguise | Sep 30 03:34 | |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 03:40 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 30 03:40 |
| razielle_tzu | hi | Sep 30 03:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh your here razielle_tzu | Sep 30 03:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 30 03:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | morning :) | Sep 30 03:40 |
| razielle_tzu | i'm always here, just not always active | Sep 30 03:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | h eh ok | Sep 30 03:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, old guy gotton a bit silly with me agian..... | Sep 30 03:41 |
| razielle_tzu | oh? | Sep 30 03:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since there aren't flyers going round to universties etc right now | Sep 30 03:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in fact the other guy is sorting out a bit of a better flyer than the one I made | Sep 30 03:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, he's just worried that there won't be many peopl etc | Sep 30 03:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | he wants a good turn out etc | Sep 30 03:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yes marketitng is difficult | Sep 30 03:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whatever is done | Sep 30 03:42 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 03:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, plus I got other tasks to do | Sep 30 03:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | still not got music fully sorted for example | Sep 30 03:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, do you think i's to much to play just one band for quite a while at begining, that may be a bit much? | Sep 30 03:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | beter to mix like you said before? | Sep 30 03:43 |
| razielle_tzu | a mix is always good | Sep 30 03:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | build up to something a bit more rocky etc ? | Sep 30 03:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah if I play my current favourite banc | Sep 30 03:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Crimson Blue | Sep 30 03:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | band above | Sep 30 03:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, then may be hard to tal about stuff acstaully whilst that's on a lot :d | Sep 30 03:44 |
| razielle_tzu | you want it loud enough to hear but still be able to talk over it | Sep 30 03:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | plus if you start with your best music | Sep 30 03:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whats going to play louder ? | Sep 30 03:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | later I mean above | Sep 30 03:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | indeed vlume will be some where in middle | Sep 30 03:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, why is it beter to mix, than play lots of one band, then move on to another? | Sep 30 03:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since one ban could get borring? | Sep 30 03:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or not be up to everyones taste ? | Sep 30 03:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and actsaull yhea if people are only there roughly about half an hour at least, and I am playing only one thing, then that's all they hear music wise hmm, that wasn't the idea | Sep 30 03:46 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah, that's about the gist of why everyone mixes unless you're showcasing a band | Sep 30 03:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I guess that settles that one then acsaully, what I Just put, mix | Sep 30 03:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | do a mix | Sep 30 03:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they are meant to hear more than just one band | Sep 30 03:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I Haven' installed mnixx yet ,but you said the auto dj feature works quite well and easy it do ? | Sep 30 03:46 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 03:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yep I'll use that and gie it a go when on lap top next! | Sep 30 03:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, still got to go down http://cchits | Sep 30 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'cchits' ( status 0 @ http://cchits ) | Sep 30 03:47 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | !google cchits | Sep 30 03:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | No Google results | Sep 30 03:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | http://cchits.net | Sep 30 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cchits.net | CCHits | Sep 30 03:47 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, find more music, that isn't sucky love songs | Sep 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > But I'm not going to blog about that case anymore. I still have the same | Sep 30 03:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | a lot on there | Sep 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > opinions but just like with the EPO stuff, I need to focus. Except, on | Sep 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > the EPO I can retweet you and on #googacle there's no prolific blogger | Sep 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > who would be on my side :-) | Sep 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | > I am, by the way, exploring strategic alternatives for the FOSS Patents | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > blog. I may sell it to an industry group (provided I agree with them at | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > least on some key issues... will never find any I agree with 100%) or | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > media company. One of the ideas is to turn it into an inclusive, far | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > more open platform on which professionals can post opinions on key IP | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > and antitrust matters. Not like a Slashdot or Reddit, of course. But not | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > a one-man show either. We'll see where this goes. It's also possible | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > that I just leave it where it is for another year or so. | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 03:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, sucky love songs for my event, no thanks | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | > Best regards, | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | It's a shame because you're a good writer and you rarely seem to exercise that skill anymore. | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | I think selling something on blogspot is hard; remember Fake Steve Jobs.. | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | -- | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy S. Schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E | Sep 30 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Schestowitz.com Software Solutions | Sep 30 03:48 | |
| schestowitz | Editor @ http://techrights.org & http://tuxmachines.org | Sep 30 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Sep 30 03:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? | Sep 30 03:48 | |
| schestowitz | Tel: (+44) 0161 275 91 09 | Mobile: (+44) 077 75 76 97 84 | Sep 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | (sounds like FOSSPatenta is almost over now) | Sep 30 03:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in other news sch | Sep 30 03:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in other news schestowitz | Sep 30 03:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | flooded the channel | Sep 30 03:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | with this time looked like stuff that no one would really care about | Sep 30 03:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | else | Sep 30 03:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | somtimes it's good, but not htis time it seems | Sep 30 03:49 |
| razielle_tzu | guess so | Sep 30 03:50 |
| schestowitz | SebthreeBQM10HD: it's pretty big news | Sep 30 03:50 |
| schestowitz | historically speaking, that blog mattered | Sep 30 03:50 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah it did | Sep 30 03:50 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 03:51 | |
| razielle_tzu | pity it might be the end of it | Sep 30 03:51 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | uhmm | Sep 30 03:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it just looked like flood to me :D | Sep 30 03:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I just had a litle more proper look | Sep 30 03:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | still not sure what that's about, when just skimming through a bit | Sep 30 03:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | some srot of blog someting or hte other | Sep 30 03:53 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 03:53 | |
| -->cxkn (579d0b1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.157.11.30) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 03:54 | |
| cxkn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moNl6AOUUr4 | Sep 30 03:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shawn Mendes Treat You Better (Leroy Sanchez & Levi Cover) - YouTube | Sep 30 03:54 | |
| <--cxkn has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 30 03:55 | |
| razielle_tzu | o.O | Sep 30 03:56 |
| razielle_tzu | wow, all my sysadmin tasks are done already... thought i had more to do today | Sep 30 03:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ok well then event tasks for you for my event :d h eh h eh | Sep 30 03:59 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 30 03:59 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, go through http://linuxvoice.com what can we use :D | Sep 30 03:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/ ) | Sep 30 03:59 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | h eh | Sep 30 03:59 |
| razielle_tzu | can't use anything that is less than 90 days old | Sep 30 04:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | indeed | Sep 30 04:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the older guy did suggest a good article acstaully | Sep 30 04:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yes linuxvoice is good in that sense it all goes under CC :) | Sep 30 04:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | when it's old enough | Sep 30 04:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, unforutantly though I got post yesterday it was the linu voice magainze | Sep 30 04:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | went through | Sep 30 04:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it looking for events and uh nothing! | Sep 30 04:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | nothing in there at all about events from what I could see in fact, any events | Sep 30 04:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ,but I had contacted them like two months ago about adding in, then about a month ago again since no resposne the first time | Sep 30 04:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, so looks like it won't be mentioned in there as well then! | Sep 30 04:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | as well as the two other magaines | Sep 30 04:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ok that would have mainly bought geeks in, but still hmm | Sep 30 04:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's ashame really not having at least one! | Sep 30 04:01 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 04:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, next issue is after my event I Gess so yep what I Just put | Sep 30 04:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the magazine I got yesterday is the one where ither should have been a mention! | Sep 30 04:02 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD isn't impressed with the Linux Voice team | Sep 30 04:02 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it sounded quite maybe possibly when I did get a response, they are like thanks for the reminder... and now no mention hmm | Sep 30 04:03 |
| razielle_tzu | most of them were Format members | Sep 30 04:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I guess the fact that have mett them in perosn like twice or so since ogg camp, doesn't actasully have much waight etc | Sep 30 04:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | plus I was one of what about 300 or so people anyway | Sep 30 04:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | altough people generally remember me, that hae mett me in person | Sep 30 04:03 |
| razielle_tzu | fair | Sep 30 04:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe they thought it was going to go in one or two of the other magazines anyway or possibly, since I put something hmmm. but either way, it was meant to go into linux voice | Sep 30 04:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I should have contacted the other two magines or tried to a bit arlier | Sep 30 04:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, with Linux Format it's simpally that by the time I contacted, it was probably a bit to late really to get it in | Sep 30 04:04 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah that's possible | Sep 30 04:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | linux user and developer no response there, maybe that was the wrong email address | Sep 30 04:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well I contacted someoneone from future publishing for linux format, who also cc'd in th right guy | Sep 30 04:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it generally did sound that I was a bit to late there to get in when contacted etc | Sep 30 04:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, geting a Mozilal fan boy to come again, well they aren't really fan boys or they are, but in a offical way :d, Mozilla reps yeah :) | Sep 30 04:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, a differnet on form las time, but yes that's mainly to get swag as well :) | Sep 30 04:09 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Sep 30 04:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | let them do their Mozilla stuff at your event, and you get swag :), hopefully more than just stickers this time | Sep 30 04:09 |
| razielle_tzu | swag is good, shame it's mozilla based though | Sep 30 04:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I think I know who it is that I am getting or sort of, going to email him as well today, but last time ther was a guy in IRC, who really wanted to be a Mozilla rep, but he was to young at the time | Sep 30 04:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | however it seems to be him | Sep 30 04:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I the guy I had last time, has moevd onto university etc, so no longer a rep | Sep 30 04:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | he was going to go off to university | Sep 30 04:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I Guess the guy I am getting instead, is 18 or so now so | Sep 30 04:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/781760844111556608 | Sep 30 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 29/9/2016: Russia Moving to FOSS, New Nmap and | Sep 30 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz PostgreSQL Releases https://t.co/sqHbCr7wdw | Sep 30 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Sep 30 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 04:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/9/2016: Russia Moving to FOSS, New Nmap and PostgreSQL Releases | Techrights | Sep 30 04:11 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, shame it's mozilla swag why? they have some decent stuff as well | Sep 30 04:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the stickers are alright, but ideally I would want something a bit more decent | Sep 30 04:11 |
| razielle_tzu | i'm sure the swag itself is fine, i just have issues with the foundation and the browser | Sep 30 04:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Russia movin gto FOSS that would be no suprise | Sep 30 04:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, issues with the foundation and browser why ? | Sep 30 04:12 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 04:12 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I think they could have pushed FIrefo OS more and in the developerd world as well | Sep 30 04:12 |
| razielle_tzu | too long to get into | Sep 30 04:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | may of had more of a player then | Sep 30 04:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I mean take Tizne for exmple, yes my Tien phone came a few days ago | Sep 30 04:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's got quite a few apps it seems, why? since it's got samsung behind it | Sep 30 04:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Mozilla has become a more known brand name sinc 2004 as well it really has, they could have done so much more with FIrefoX Os IF ONLy they wanted to | Sep 30 04:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | instad they gave up as a mobile os, but still on panasonic tvs | Sep 30 04:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, it basically leaves Ubuntu and maybe kind of Jolla, as the two Linux players, who may go main strema or become more popular | Sep 30 04:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that aren't Andoid or to lik it lie Tizen | Sep 30 04:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, honestly TIzen is like Samsungs copy of Android from what I Have seen | Sep 30 04:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | very similar to Android | Sep 30 04:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so not that exciting! | Sep 30 04:14 |
| razielle_tzu | i like android, i just don't like the stock roms that most phones have | Sep 30 04:14 |
| razielle_tzu | they're full of bloatware and other crap | Sep 30 04:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well if you have useds a samsung phone | Sep 30 04:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | android | Sep 30 04:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then you get samsungs stuff | Sep 30 04:15 |
| razielle_tzu | i have two and neither have the stock rom | Sep 30 04:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Tizen has smasungs kind of stuff as part of hte os of course | Sep 30 04:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they rquire you to use a samsung account to use tizen for example | Sep 30 04:15 |
| razielle_tzu | you need an account to use the phone? | Sep 30 04:15 |
| razielle_tzu | like you can't do anything without being logged in to a samsung account? | Sep 30 04:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah don't get paritucarly far before logging into samsung account | Sep 30 04:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and it says how it's required etc | Sep 30 04:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | on the phone set up | Sep 30 04:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the google account on the other hand is optional though | Sep 30 04:16 |
| razielle_tzu | i think i'll pass on tizen then | Sep 30 04:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then got to also accept some kind of lisnce agreemet like propriaty software | Sep 30 04:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | altough it's under apche I think or the oepn source bits | Sep 30 04:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | apache | Sep 30 04:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, requiring an acocunt to us the phone which seems to be the case, i'll check when I Factory re set the tizen phone for fun and see what that's like | Sep 30 04:17 |
| razielle_tzu | i'm not going to use a phone that requires me to register an account just to use the basic functionality of the damned hardware | Sep 30 04:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yes requirng it , is like vender lock in | Sep 30 04:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well you can use it, for the uhmm boot up screen, and part of the installer, without the account :d | Sep 30 04:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yes indeed to what you put, and I know what you meant | Sep 30 04:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, if can't do basics wihtout the account, then that's vender lock in | Sep 30 04:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | forcing people to use account | Sep 30 04:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | tigh them into samsung | Sep 30 04:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I happended to have a old account anyay that I re set the password for, since my first smart phone or proper one | Sep 30 04:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | was the Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini | Sep 30 04:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I got that insead of the Nexus whatever, that the geeks were going on about back then, since well that was sold out so | Sep 30 04:19 |
| razielle_tzu | any time i reset my android phones i get to skip logging in or registering a new google account and go straight to the home screen | Sep 30 04:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so didn't get a device wih stock android | Sep 30 04:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well Tizen has the red, required | Sep 30 04:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for the samsung account | Sep 30 04:20 |
| razielle_tzu | that's stupid and a reason i won't use tizen | Sep 30 04:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well you can't really anyway for now, unlesss you buy a smart watch from some where they do sell in the uk or one does | Sep 30 04:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the phones have to buy directly from India for now | Sep 30 04:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | like I did | Sep 30 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point 2 minutes ago | Sep 30 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | At least the occasional good tech support agent exists at Dell. At LOL NO! VO they have no customer support. | Sep 30 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | They told this person to ship their computer to Lenovo's repair center in July. Tomorrow it will be October, and they keep giving this person a different excuse about why they can't send it back every time. | Sep 30 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/General-Discussion/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-to-Tell-Me-What-s-Wrong-with-my-Computer/m-p/3442008#M31430 | Sep 30 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | Go looking through the "Special Interest Discussions", which is where Lenovo mods put all of the horror stories like this one. | Sep 30 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/General-Discussion/bd-p/Special_Interest_General | Sep 30 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Lenovo Can't Seem to Tell Me What's Wrong with my ... - Lenovo Community | Sep 30 04:21 | |
| DaemonFC | But what do you want from a company that wrote BIOS code whose sole purpose is to block Linux on the Yoga? | Sep 30 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | Be prepared to deal with the same thing on LOL NO! VO's other lineups, since they said that they're "leading the industry" in the change to abuse RAID as a way of covering up Windows driver loading problems. | Sep 30 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | General Discussion - Lenovo Community | Sep 30 04:21 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, it's vinder lock in | Sep 30 04:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they want pepople using android stuff | Sep 30 04:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I Mean | Sep 30 04:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | samsung | Sep 30 04:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | lots of ocmpanies do that, find a way to tigh people into their stuff | Sep 30 04:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | APple do it | Sep 30 04:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Google do it | Sep 30 04:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc | Sep 30 04:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Microsoft do it | Sep 30 04:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc | Sep 30 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> iPhone 7 is exploding now | Sep 30 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> https://www.yahoo.com/tech/yup-now-iphone-7-exploding-140558885.html lol | Sep 30 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> clearly appears to be an isolated incident | Sep 30 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | <Zombie58> huh | Sep 30 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | <KtecK> It's amazing it's not happenig more often | Sep 30 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | <KtecK> those littl batterys are packed with soo much potential for good and damage | Sep 30 04:22 |
| razielle_tzu | and i'll look for ways out of it, as always | Sep 30 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> iPhone: It may occasionally explode, but at least you don't have a headphone jack. :) | Sep 30 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | Yup, now the iPhone 7 is exploding | Sep 30 04:22 | |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Apple said they had the courage to drop something that hasn't innovated in years, which is more than you can say for their customers. | Sep 30 04:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah | Sep 30 04:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, they may want hte ccount to spy on you to :D | Sep 30 04:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I Think I Trust Canoncal the most of the lot | Sep 30 04:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | when it comes to phones and tables | Sep 30 04:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and spying etc | Sep 30 04:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I mean not to do it | Sep 30 04:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, oh and yeah Salifish Jolla as well | Sep 30 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | SebthreeBQM10HD, I'm not sure you can trust Canonical. | Sep 30 04:25 |
| razielle_tzu | me neither | Sep 30 04:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | you can more than | Sep 30 04:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | say | Sep 30 04:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Micrsooft | Sep 30 04:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and Apple | Sep 30 04:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and Google | Sep 30 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | Meh. They'll do whatever they can get away with. | Sep 30 04:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | unless your DaemonFC becaue then your on Canonicals hit list | Sep 30 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | I can't even install Ubuntu if I want to. | Sep 30 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | My Lenovo laptop won't allow it. | Sep 30 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | Client: HexChat 2.12.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6560U CPU @ 2.20GHz (2.21GHz) • Memory: 15.9 GiB Total (10.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 151.0 GiB / 475.7 GiB (324.6 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics 540 • Uptime: 1w 1d 22h 51m 16s | Sep 30 04:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | DaemonFC, no need buy a tablet or phone | Sep 30 04:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | DaemonFC, and there you go a nice working Ubuntu for many things :) | Sep 30 04:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | unless you want to play pokemon go | Sep 30 04:26 |
| razielle_tzu | DaemonFC: yoga? | Sep 30 04:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and use whatsapp etc | Sep 30 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | razielle_tzu, Yeah. | Sep 30 04:27 |
| razielle_tzu | ouch | Sep 30 04:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | DaemonFC, razielle_tzu hmm I read no Unity 8 seesion to try in Ubuntu 16.10 BEta 2 | Sep 30 04:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but that's meant to be coming | Sep 30 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | I spent the better part of four days trying to embarrass them for that. | Sep 30 04:27 |
| razielle_tzu | unity blows | Sep 30 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well. Hopefully the Linux 4.9 or 4.10 kernel gets power management in good shape for Skylake and gets around the RAID crap. | Sep 30 04:28 |
| razielle_tzu | DaemonFC: we can only hope | Sep 30 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | From what I hear the power management in 4.8 is better than it has been, but not ideal. | Sep 30 04:28 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | There's 8 stages of power save mode for Skylake and the current stable Ubuntu carries a kernel that can't get past stage 3. | Sep 30 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | So it'd going to chew through your battery, and Intel warns that this could reduce the life of your laptop. | Sep 30 04:29 |
| razielle_tzu | i only use ubuntu itself on my servers (and to provide a thin client network at the computer club) | Sep 30 04:29 |
| razielle_tzu | everything else is mint, arch or devuan now | Sep 30 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably use Fedora when I can install any distribution. | Sep 30 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | Power management would be in the best shape in the latest kernel. | Sep 30 04:30 |
| razielle_tzu | i haven't played with that for a while | Sep 30 04:31 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 05:11 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 05:28 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 05:31 | |
| <--Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 06:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781768302213332992 | Sep 30 06:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS | Sep 30 06:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sierra Benchmarks https://t.co/g3zFs2JIKg | Sep 30 06:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 30 06:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS Sierra Benchmarks - Phoronix | Sep 30 06:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781785898769911808 | Sep 30 06:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Sep 30 06:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DU025ga6mp (www.networkworld.com) | Sep 30 06:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Sep 30 06:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799207581646848 | Sep 30 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Sep 30 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DE0TA3uvrT (hackerboards.com) | Sep 30 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Sep 30 06:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799934433439744 | Sep 30 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS | Sep 30 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sierra Benchmarks https://t.co/2CaTfGiwei | Sep 30 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 06:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS Sierra Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Sep 30 06:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799935725350912 | Sep 30 06:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Sep 30 06:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2TtmAWEaN3 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 06:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Tux Machines | Sep 30 06:17 | |
| <--ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 30 06:17 | |
| -->ohama (ohama@cicolina.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 06:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799936765472768 | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10 reasons why CIOs should consider open source software | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/e5kAmDffIY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 reasons why CIOs should consider open source software | Tux Machines | Sep 30 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799938141237248 | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i4eQDl92D0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Tux Machines | Sep 30 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799939168874497 | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.7.6 https://t.co/ljNhDB1TxH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.7.6 | Tux Machines | Sep 30 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781800154630328320 | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.7.6 https://t.co/WjvBdIacOV (lwn.net) Linux | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.23 https://t.co/tXZA0DW4BJ (lwn.net) | Sep 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.7.6 [LWN.net] | Sep 30 06:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.4.23 [LWN.net] | Sep 30 06:20 | |
| -->Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 06:32 | |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 06:55 | |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 06:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781800861206994944 | Sep 30 06:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & | Sep 30 06:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Bucks https://t.co/u34LjtZOne (www.fsf.org) | Sep 30 06:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & GNU Bucks — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | Sep 30 06:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781804094776377344 | Sep 30 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Thank you: Android manufacturers finally listened to | Sep 30 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | users in 2016 https://t.co/YhfhZefV1Q (thenextweb.com) | Sep 30 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 06:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Thank you: Android manufacturers finally listened to us in 2016 | Sep 30 06:56 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/j4vxs9O.jpg | Sep 30 07:08 |
| MinceR | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1247056 | Sep 30 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1247056 – Require PulseAudio on Linux | Sep 30 07:17 | |
| MinceR | congratulations mozilla, failfox is now garbage | Sep 30 07:17 |
| cubexyz | I've been using google chrome more lately | Sep 30 07:29 |
| cubexyz | no way should libpulse be a hard dependency, that's silly | Sep 30 07:31 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 07:31 |
| cubexyz | so what are the BSDs going to do? | Sep 30 07:34 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Snapzu_Tech favourited 'Thank you: Android manufacturers finally listened to users...' | Sep 30 07:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781819143087616000 | Sep 30 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Just a heads up, Saints Row: The Third on Linux has | Sep 30 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | broken co-op play https://t.co/PwoeWqDwjC (error) | Sep 30 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 07:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/just-a-heads-up-saints-row-the-third-on-linux-has-broken-co-op-play.8215 ) | Sep 30 07:36 | |
| cubexyz | ok, there's evidently a FreeBSD and NetBSD port | Sep 30 07:37 |
| cubexyz | I don't bother running firefox on openbsd anyways | Sep 30 07:39 |
| cubexyz | the openbsd box only as 256 megs of ram | Sep 30 07:39 |
| cubexyz | no libpulse on my older vector box either | Sep 30 07:42 |
| cubexyz | I don't see why firefox would have to use pulse | Sep 30 07:48 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 07:50 | |
| cubexyz | sebsebseb might be stuck at 512 megs max on that Sun Ultra 5 | Sep 30 08:04 |
| cubexyz | Ultra 10 is probably better... at least it can go 1 gig for ram | Sep 30 08:05 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/y9QapA4 | Sep 30 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The local news is trying to tell us something... - Imgur | Sep 30 08:06 | |
| cubexyz | the PROM monitor operates even when the main OS is halted which is kind of nice | Sep 30 08:13 |
| cubexyz | I wonder how seb will react to no flash :) | Sep 30 08:16 |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 30 08:18 | |
| razielle_tzu | heh | Sep 30 08:22 |
| -->liberty_box_ (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 08:24 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 08:27 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/dd1-19.jpg | Sep 30 08:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781819936704454656 | Sep 30 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Sundered', a beautiful hand-drawn action game coming to | Sep 30 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux next year https://t.co/jP9UZNJCqJ (error) | Sep 30 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 08:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/sundered-a-beautiful-hand-drawn-action-game-coming-to-linux-next-year.8216 ) | Sep 30 08:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781819961488596993 | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rotate different shapes made out of blocks into holes in | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Security Hole', now on Linux https://t.co/zftuZCD5Rw | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 30 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/rotate-different-shapes-made-out-of-blocks-into-holes-in-security-hole-now-on-linux.8217 ) | Sep 30 08:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 08:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @eaj followed @tuxmachines | Sep 30 08:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836949485031424 | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Bucks https://t.co/h1TAythO1R (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 08:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & GNU Bucks | Tux Machines | Sep 30 08:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836950953086976 | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/UpOG85QRd2 | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 08:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 08:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836952001585152 | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/uyzUegvcyX | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 08:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 30 08:44 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/mmwuluU.jpg | Sep 30 09:08 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 30 09:32 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 09:42 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 09:50 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGr3Aeytf3I | Sep 30 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super Street Fighter II - COSPLAY Challengers - YouTube | Sep 30 09:58 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/U5naJm5.jpg | Sep 30 10:20 |
| <--dblaber has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | Sep 30 11:02 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/GCZICoS.jpg | Sep 30 11:03 |
| -->dblaber (~dmb@pool-71-172-246-73.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836952962076673 | Sep 30 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/4scghizLRK | Sep 30 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836954233020418 | Sep 30 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/oJcWWeGP1v | Sep 30 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781871106789703680 | Sep 30 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/oYmvfdiSBK | Sep 30 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:10 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/O2cSW5r | Sep 30 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This app would like to sj with my Google account - Imgur | Sep 30 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781873742657880065 | Sep 30 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/6RMkFNuTTE | Sep 30 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/781878348435877888 | Sep 30 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/oYmvfdiSBK | Sep 30 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:30 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:30 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9zirDym.jpg | Sep 30 11:37 |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.129.63) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/781879087677710340 | Sep 30 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: There's also _long term_ money in erasing history, culture, countries and people, and co-opting their land and reso… https://t.co/hWUj80LD2J | Sep 30 11:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: There's also _long term_ money in erasing history, culture, countries and people, and co-opting their land and reso… https://t.co/hWUj80LD2J | Sep 30 11:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781878782508531712 | Sep 30 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | I think ‘Particle Fleet: Emergence’ just became my new | Sep 30 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux gaming addiction https://t.co/Vfz4PNwrfQ (error) | Sep 30 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/i-think-particle-fleet-emergence-just-became-my-new-linux-gaming-addiction.8219 ) | Sep 30 11:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 11:56 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 11:59 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 12:09 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 30 12:18 | |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.129.63) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 12:18 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) | Sep 30 12:19 | |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.129.63) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781891471251087362 | Sep 30 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/mrnVQ1CDOE | Sep 30 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 12:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 12:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781891472282968064 | Sep 30 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released | Sep 30 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Spherical Stereo VR https://t.co/IzSBBzEx9g | Sep 30 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 12:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with Spherical Stereo VR | Tux Machines | Sep 30 12:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 12:30 | |
| -->pidgin_log (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 12:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 12:36 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 12:37 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 12:38 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 12:38 | |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.151.146) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 12:50 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 30 12:51 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 12:52 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 30 12:52 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 12:52 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 13:08 | |
| MinceR | http://krautchan.net/files/1475240858001.webm | Sep 30 13:09 |
| MinceR | (short-lived link) | Sep 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz | looking | Sep 30 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oqXVx3sBOk | Sep 30 13:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blur - Coffee And TV - YouTube | Sep 30 13:29 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wow, water through the electrics | Sep 30 13:31 |
| schestowitz | just seen it | Sep 30 13:31 |
| schestowitz | we have a leak too these days | Sep 30 13:32 |
| schestowitz | coming through window/roof | Sep 30 13:32 |
| MinceR | in the usa, you instead get fossil fuel through the water pipes | Sep 30 13:32 |
| schestowitz | almost impossible to block, we just use a towel when it rains heavily | Sep 30 13:32 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with...' | Sep 30 13:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909764607401984 | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Accelerometers https://t.co/T1jvhbSXDo | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909765681065984 | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Purism’s next product could be a smartphone that runs | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/free software https://t.co/n4m74y4Tw4 | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Purism’s next product could be a smartphone that runs Linux/free software | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909766763274240 | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uECce06Dgd (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:33 | |
| MinceR | convergence of public utilities | Sep 30 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909768143183872 | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Files in Linux https://t.co/uY0M3LYpkS | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration Files in Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:33 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/1Jc4PDJ | Sep 30 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I downloaded Trove... - Imgur | Sep 30 13:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909769518854144 | Sep 30 13:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU | Sep 30 13:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Drivers https://t.co/a8mPKQ20y8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU Drivers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical...' | Sep 30 13:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with...' | Sep 30 13:38 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: poor value for money | Sep 30 13:39 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz | back to work today | Sep 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz | for first time since monday :< | Sep 30 13:39 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/fkU5abu.jpg | Sep 30 13:52 |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 13:53 | |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 13:53 | |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 30 13:53 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: hehe | Sep 30 13:54 |
| schestowitz | I guess that's also why their guns cannot fire | Sep 30 13:54 |
| schestowitz | very faulty planes | Sep 30 13:54 |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 13:54 | |
| schestowitz | will cost a fortune to make, not just to design | Sep 30 13:54 |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 13:54 | |
| schestowitz | what a fraudulent waste | Sep 30 13:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 13:55 |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 30 14:01 | |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@82.236.59.219) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 14:05 | |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 14:05 | |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 14:16 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ping | Sep 30 14:16 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 14:22 | |
| cubexyz | I trust google | Sep 30 14:49 |
| cubexyz | who else is making coreboot laptops? | Sep 30 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | That's an interesting start %). | Sep 30 14:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 14:50 |
| MinceR | i have limited trust for google | Sep 30 14:50 |
| cubexyz | I have the source code for the chromebook embedded controller, and it's fully working | Sep 30 14:50 |
| MinceR | nice | Sep 30 14:51 |
| cubexyz | now to do that on a Lenovo X200 requires considerable effort | Sep 30 14:51 |
| *XRevan86 bets Google made a coreboot policy to make it harder to windows Chromebooks. | Sep 30 14:51 | |
| XRevan86 | Not the worst thing to do for sure :). Still. | Sep 30 14:52 |
| cubexyz | well I haven't had the chance to fully test alternatives on chromebooks, for example things like reactos or freedos | Sep 30 14:52 |
| cubexyz | but for freedos old hardware is fine | Sep 30 14:53 |
| *XRevan86 doesn't know how hard it is to make coreboot in Chromebooks to support MBR boot or EFI boot. | Sep 30 14:53 | |
| XRevan86 | s/to support/support/ | Sep 30 14:54 |
| cubexyz | well there's seabios inside coreboot (encapsulated) so in theory you should be able to do freedos | Sep 30 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I'm sure coreboot flashed in Chromebooks all only support booting the Linux kernel. | Sep 30 14:54 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/SIpORyZ | Sep 30 14:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apparently my GPU is a bit power hungry... - Imgur | Sep 30 14:54 | |
| MinceR | cubexyz: what about netbsd and openbsd? | Sep 30 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | most probably only a signed one | Sep 30 14:55 |
| cubexyz | it's been done | Sep 30 14:55 |
| cubexyz | not by me though | Sep 30 14:55 |
| cubexyz | there was some issue with suspending as I recall | Sep 30 14:56 |
| cubexyz | https://blog.grem.de/pages/c720.html | Sep 30 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.grem.de | Michael's Daemonic Doodles | Running FreeBSD on the Acer C720 Chromebook | Sep 30 14:56 | |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 30 14:57 |
| MinceR | requires voiding warranty :( | Sep 30 14:58 |
| cubexyz | not at all sure about ARM chromebooks for freedos come to think about it | Sep 30 14:58 |
| XRevan86 | > On the Chrome OS devices that shipped with SeaBIOS, the installation process of Arch Linux should be similar with a few minor adjustments | Sep 30 14:58 |
| XRevan86 | So some have it. And some don't? | Sep 30 14:58 |
| MinceR | then again, looking at dHell, lenovo and others, that may not mean much for long | Sep 30 14:58 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, that's right | Sep 30 14:58 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: ARM ones don't use coreboot. | Sep 30 14:58 |
| cubexyz | u-boot I think on those | Sep 30 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, uboot makes sense. | Sep 30 14:59 |
| cubexyz | still GPL :) | Sep 30 14:59 |
| cubexyz | I can live with that | Sep 30 14:59 |
| cubexyz | yes, freedos is strictly x86 | Sep 30 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | As long as it's not tivoised. | Sep 30 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Smartphones are (almost?) all on uboot, still doesn't help them not being tivoised. | Sep 30 15:01 |
| cubexyz | I tested a lot of OSes on Gigabyte GA-6BXC | Sep 30 15:01 |
| cubexyz | that's about as vanilla as you can get | Sep 30 15:01 |
| cubexyz | bah, /me does not use smartphones | Sep 30 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's ARM world. | Sep 30 15:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | cubexyz, to old skool to use a smart phone | Sep 30 15:02 |
| *cubexyz uses landline like the old days | Sep 30 15:02 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | cubexyz, you old foggy | Sep 30 15:02 |
| cubexyz | I even tested ISA cards on coreboot :) | Sep 30 15:03 |
| cubexyz | there wasn't a lot of room on the flash chip for 6BXC... only 256k | Sep 30 15:04 |
| cubexyz | still big enough for coreboot + seabios | Sep 30 15:04 |
| *XRevan86 looks at http://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Libreboot&diff=36377&oldid=36149 | Sep 30 15:08 | |
| XRevan86 | so they don't mind? | Sep 30 15:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Difference between revisions of "Libreboot" - Free Software Directory [ http://ur1.ca/ptkta ] | Sep 30 15:08 | |
| XRevan86 | I thought they did… | Sep 30 15:08 |
| cubexyz | some binary blobs are actually OK | Sep 30 15:09 |
| cubexyz | vgabios for example... it's well understood | Sep 30 15:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I mean, FSF don't minding non-GNU Libreboot. | Sep 30 15:09 |
| XRevan86 | s/don't/not/ | Sep 30 15:09 |
| cubexyz | libreboot is GPL though? | Sep 30 15:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Did you miss all the fuss? %) | Sep 30 15:10 |
| cubexyz | seems like it | Sep 30 15:10 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Person who created and maintained GNU Libreboot accused FSF of firing a person for being transgender. | Sep 30 15:11 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: And moved Libreboot out of GNU slash forked GNU Libreboot to Libreboot (depends on the opinion). | Sep 30 15:11 |
| XRevan86 | Comment from RMS: the person fired was also transgendered when hired, so nothing really changed in that respect between hiring and firing. | Sep 30 15:13 |
| *XRevan86 is lazy to find quotes. | Sep 30 15:13 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: So now Libreboot is a controversial piece of software %). | Sep 30 15:13 |
| XRevan86 | And despite the fact that GNU declared that GNU Libreboot will still be maintained, I can't find an actual repo. | Sep 30 15:14 |
| XRevan86 | > some binary blobs are actually OK | Sep 30 15:17 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: So without even taking that into consideration, Libreboot is pretty much out of the picture. | Sep 30 15:17 |
| MinceR | so non-GNU libreboot is not fully libre now? | Sep 30 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It is, it's just maintained by a very emotional character. | Sep 30 15:19 |
| cubexyz | ah, yes I can say we are working on reverse-engineering some old "binary blobs" on early Unix | Sep 30 15:20 |
| cubexyz | there is no choice in the matter, unless by some miracule more source code is discovered... it's lost | Sep 30 15:20 |
| cubexyz | and there's other wrinkles like emulated VGABIOS that only works in Plex86 or Bochs | Sep 30 15:22 |
| cubexyz | sometimes there's no choice in the matter | Sep 30 15:23 |
| cubexyz | I'm a bit stumped on a couple of binaries... azel, sky and some early versions of more | Sep 30 15:24 |
| cubexyz | oh yeah fc0 was missing... but restored later on | Sep 30 15:25 |
| cubexyz | most of the missing source code for Unix v5 was filled in by using Unix v6 code | Sep 30 15:26 |
| cubexyz | fc0 was for floating point emulation | Sep 30 15:29 |
| cubexyz | so the blob rule isn't absolute | Sep 30 15:29 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 15:30 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: They can become a problem, and that's all FSF needs. | Sep 30 15:34 |
| cubexyz | so stuff like sqrt, pow, gamma, exp wouldn't compile without fc0 on a PDP-11 without hardware for floating point support | Sep 30 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | blobs, I mean | Sep 30 15:35 |
| cubexyz | right, I'm just reviewing my thoughts here :) | Sep 30 15:36 |
| cubexyz | new blobs are a problem... old blobs not so much | Sep 30 15:36 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Some people say new proprietary software is a problem, old p.s. not so much. | Sep 30 15:37 |
| XRevan86 | and I tend to agree | Sep 30 15:37 |
| cubexyz | I didn't have a FOSS BIOS until late 2010 | Sep 30 15:38 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, in the sense of using it. | Sep 30 15:38 |
| XRevan86 | Old unmaintained software is generally a problem. | Sep 30 15:38 |
| XRevan86 | and old proprietary software is always unmaintained | Sep 30 15:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37818-seven-popular-foods-that-might-disappear-because-of-climate-change | Sep 30 15:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truth-out.org | Seven Popular Foods That Might Disappear Because of Climate Change | Sep 30 15:39 | |
| cubexyz | well someone might have the source code for a program and not give it out | Sep 30 15:40 |
| cubexyz | they signed the NDA etc etc | Sep 30 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Proprietary software have EULAs | Sep 30 15:40 |
| cubexyz | you've lost your old development environment, you got no time to go back and work on it... it just languishes | Sep 30 15:41 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Having source code of some software even abandoned is covered by a term "piracy" | Sep 30 15:41 |
| XRevan86 | in a violation of the EULA | Sep 30 15:41 |
| cubexyz | except I've put a ton of effort into maintaining the older programming environments for stuff that interests me | Sep 30 15:41 |
| cubexyz | yeah but they just sit on the code and don't tell anyone :) | Sep 30 15:42 |
| cubexyz | who's going to know? | Sep 30 15:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's their right by the law. | Sep 30 15:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Although I'm not sure what you mean. | Sep 30 15:42 |
| cubexyz | ok... let's say you worked on a game | Sep 30 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | If you're the developer, you are the proprieter. | Sep 30 15:43 |
| cubexyz | you get paid for it, but you technically don't own the rights, but you keep the code | Sep 30 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Well, that's illegal. | Sep 30 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If the rights owner will ask you to remove them, you have to comply. | Sep 30 15:44 |
| XRevan86 | > who's going to know? | Sep 30 15:50 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: And that… you can get sources of Windows 2000 and do nothing with them. | Sep 30 15:50 |
| cubexyz | sure | Sep 30 15:50 |
| XRevan86 | If nobody will find out, nobody will sue you %). | Sep 30 15:50 |
| cubexyz | hosted in Russia if I recall :) | Sep 30 15:50 |
| XRevan86 | I remember they were torrented on TPB. | Sep 30 15:51 |
| XRevan86 | thus hosted everywhere | Sep 30 15:51 |
| cubexyz | what's the alternative? Orphaned software is lost forever? | Sep 30 15:52 |
| cubexyz | and eventually that copyright will expire | Sep 30 15:53 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's the fate of proprietary software. | Sep 30 15:53 |
| XRevan86 | does it? | Sep 30 15:53 |
| cubexyz | 50 years after the author dies | Sep 30 15:54 |
| cubexyz | I admit, it's too long but that's the rule | Sep 30 15:54 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: In a hundred years software becomes extremely irrelevant. | Sep 30 15:56 |
| cubexyz | 1916? there's nothing :) | Sep 30 15:57 |
| cubexyz | we haven't even got close to 100 years yet | Sep 30 15:57 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: But software that is 30 years old is already irrelevant. | Sep 30 15:57 |
| XRevan86 | if 30 years is irrelevance then what's 100 years? | Sep 30 15:57 |
| cubexyz | ah, it's not irrelevant to me | Sep 30 15:58 |
| cubexyz | I wrote some stuff 30 years ago | Sep 30 15:58 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Well, you have hardware from that era, right? | Sep 30 15:58 |
| cubexyz | yes | Sep 30 15:58 |
| XRevan86 | and you practically need something compatible for it | Sep 30 15:58 |
| cubexyz | historians? :) | Sep 30 15:59 |
| cubexyz | so yeah it gets emulated on newer hardware | Sep 30 15:59 |
| cubexyz | I don't have a real PDP-11 but I still program for it | Sep 30 15:59 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's creepy. | Sep 30 16:00 |
| <--sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 30 16:00 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Ah, you mean, because you're into that? | Sep 30 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | for historians everything's relevant %) | Sep 30 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | even flappy bird clones for ios | Sep 30 16:01 |
| cubexyz | there's The Historical Unix Society or TUHS, I'm a member :) | Sep 30 16:01 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That explains a lot :D | Sep 30 16:01 |
| cubexyz | for example ...a working IBM 2310 would be very hard to get | Sep 30 16:02 |
| cubexyz | so it was emulated, the software can still run | Sep 30 16:03 |
| cubexyz | not too long ago I ported the gamma function to amiga | Sep 30 16:03 |
| XRevan86 | Historians are a big exception in the definition of relevance %) | Sep 30 16:03 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/bmLIPm3.jpg | Sep 30 16:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Didn't they also create tonnes of problems for users? | Sep 30 16:06 |
| MinceR | they did | Sep 30 16:06 |
| XRevan86 | People shouldn't care about it, they also shouldn't care about their OS working at all. | Sep 30 16:06 |
| XRevan86 | Computer is an illusion, let it go. | Sep 30 16:07 |
| cubexyz | I thought it was very interesting I could port an old piece of software for the gamma function originally intended for Vax-11/780 to a 68000 based amiga | Sep 30 16:07 |
| cubexyz | I guess the oldest hardware (emulated) I actually use is IBM 1130 | Sep 30 16:13 |
| cubexyz | that's 1965 era | Sep 30 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Doesn't emulating remove most of the fun? | Sep 30 16:17 |
| cubexyz | not really | Sep 30 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | Or maybe I think that because I don't find old software charming… | Sep 30 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | old hardware is an other thing %) | Sep 30 16:18 |
| cubexyz | a real IBM 1130 would take up a lot of room | Sep 30 16:18 |
| cubexyz | a real PDP-11/45 would eat up a lot of current | Sep 30 16:18 |
| cubexyz | compiling the kernel on a real PDP-11/45 would be very slow, etc etc | Sep 30 16:19 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Random question: what do you think of Nokia N900? | Sep 30 16:23 |
| cubexyz | I've heard of it | Sep 30 16:24 |
| XRevan86 | Should be sort of interesting for a UNIX historian :). | Sep 30 16:24 |
| XRevan86 | maemo phone | Sep 30 16:24 |
| XRevan86 | Debian | Sep 30 16:24 |
| cubexyz | well if it supported X11 I'd probably buy one | Sep 30 16:25 |
| cubexyz | I assume Nokia stopped making Linux devices? | Sep 30 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Nokia stopped making devices. | Sep 30 16:26 |
| cubexyz | used the same package manager as the zaurus | Sep 30 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I think it does have X11. | Sep 30 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | not sure | Sep 30 16:28 |
| cubexyz | yeah there was some talk of X forwarding over ssh | Sep 30 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's not a very practical device these days, of course. | Sep 30 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | but historical for sure :) | Sep 30 16:30 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think MinceR talked about it years ago | Sep 30 16:31 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:31 | |
| XRevan86 | or rather not practical at all | Sep 30 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | it can make calls though | Sep 30 16:32 |
| cubexyz | I still use the zaurus as an ereader | Sep 30 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: ereader? with that screen? | Sep 30 16:33 |
| cubexyz | yeah it's pretty small :) | Sep 30 16:33 |
| cubexyz | I use my reading glasses so it's not too bad | Sep 30 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Actually, I was addressing DPI and colour quality %). | Sep 30 16:34 |
| *XRevan86 does ereading on 4'' | Sep 30 16:35 | |
| cubexyz | I ported a bunch of stuff to zaurus a while back | Sep 30 16:36 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: does ublock origin work with pale moon? | Sep 30 16:36 |
| cubexyz | units, file, bc, ncurses, binutils, procps, rsync, etc | Sep 30 16:36 |
| MinceR | emulating is a lot of fun, at least with dosbox | Sep 30 16:36 |
| MinceR | you get an environment that's pretty portable yet it looks the same for the stuff running in it | Sep 30 16:37 |
| cubexyz | back in 2009 :) | Sep 30 16:37 |
| MinceR | plus console emulators give you abilities no console ever had | Sep 30 16:37 |
| XRevan86 | Hail snes9x (although it's non-free) | Sep 30 16:38 |
| cubexyz | haha, I can remember when atari 2600 first came out | Sep 30 16:39 |
| cubexyz | oooo so awesome ;) | Sep 30 16:39 |
| cubexyz | Christmas 1977 | Sep 30 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes it doees. | Sep 30 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | *does | Sep 30 16:40 |
| MinceR | nice | Sep 30 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, higan is better if you have the hardware for it. | Sep 30 16:40 |
| MinceR | also, when you mentioned that e10s consumed a lot of resources, was that on windows or on some free unix? | Sep 30 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's ~400 times more accurate than snes9x, but requires a decent computer. | Sep 30 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: How decent? | Sep 30 16:41 |
| cubexyz | ok Super Nintendo you could just buy one :) | Sep 30 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Should be across the board. Mozilla said 20% without specifying an OS. | Sep 30 16:41 |
| cubexyz | it's not _that_ old and they made millions of them | Sep 30 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | Might be +/- a little by platform, but not much. | Sep 30 16:41 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 30 16:42 |
| MinceR | i expected it to be far more costly on winblows | Sep 30 16:42 |
| MinceR | as the NT kernel makes processes super expensive | Sep 30 16:42 |
| MinceR | while processes are cheap on unix | Sep 30 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why? Firefox uses a similar amount of RAM on each platform. | Sep 30 16:42 |
| MinceR | ask m$ :> | Sep 30 16:42 |
| MinceR | they came up with svchost | Sep 30 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's not as expensive as it once was. | Sep 30 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | Windows has compressed memory support now. | Sep 30 16:43 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 30 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | It uses it where it makes sense. | Sep 30 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | So if you have 10 instances of the same code running, that's an easy one. | Sep 30 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, There are a lot of exceptions for Windows services now where they run in svchost, but a different instance of it. | Sep 30 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Intel Core i5 decent? | Sep 30 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, Which generation? | Sep 30 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | There have been like 6 generations and they're quite different even though they have the same name. | Sep 30 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Okay, I see :D | Sep 30 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | I have an ultra low voltage i7-6560U and it runs fine. | Sep 30 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | 60 fps all the time | Sep 30 16:47 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 16:48 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:49 | |
| DaemonFC | The design of the current Intel mobile platform is good, but they won't provide much documentation for it, so Linux is woefully behind. | Sep 30 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | You have to get several components into power save mode or the whole power saving system is compromised. | Sep 30 16:50 |
| MinceR | where are the amd laptops? | Sep 30 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Lost Vikings 2 works with ~45 FPS | Sep 30 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | htop shows 87% CPU load | Sep 30 16:51 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Rltpcpx.jpg | Sep 30 16:51 |
| -->DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:51 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I see Higan is very power-hungry | Sep 30 16:52 |
| DaemonFC` | It would be. It works one of your CPU cores pretty hard. | Sep 30 16:52 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Disconnected by services) | Sep 30 16:53 | |
| ---DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Sep 30 16:53 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A thought occured while reading all those kickass facts | Sep 30 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | It can run SNES games without bugs that appear due to inaccurate emulation in other emulators. | Sep 30 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: People actually start believing in god because of these things %). | Sep 30 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the most popular games have hacks to get around known bugs with snes9x | Sep 30 16:54 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 16:54 |
| MinceR | cargo cults | Sep 30 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: More like "Coincidence? I think not!" | Sep 30 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's an interesting thing how humans like to find correlation and meaning in things. | Sep 30 16:56 |
| MinceR | too bad neither MAF nor UnMHT supports Pale Moon | Sep 30 17:47 |
| MinceR | ah, there's a MAF fork | Sep 30 17:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with...' | Sep 30 18:12 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/HPWo49q.jpg | Sep 30 18:15 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 18:29 | |
| <--liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 18:31 | |
| -->sheepbat (~lev3k@46.21.154.83) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 18:42 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've been using a recent testing build of Pale Moon 27. It's gettin much better. | Sep 30 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, some of the extensions fron Firefox _don't_ work | Sep 30 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | Https Everywhere for example. | Sep 30 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if they plan to make a version of that for Microsoft Edge. | Sep 30 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | They could port their Chrome extension with minimal effort. Change a few lines. Change chrome to ms-browser in a few places. Done. | Sep 30 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is basically trying to clone Webkit. | Sep 30 18:51 |
| MinceR | well, at least the crashes will be easy to clone | Sep 30 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | They said their goal with EdgeHTML is to behave exactly like Webkit in rendering pages, and they copied Chrome's extension system. | Sep 30 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chrome actually uses Blink now, but Blink is really kind of a rolling fork. | Sep 30 18:52 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 30 18:53 |
| MinceR | apparently i'll need Blink for WebRTC, as CrashKit doesn't seem to support it | Sep 30 18:53 |
| MinceR | or maybe i just have an ancient version of it | Sep 30 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apple doesn't use a very recent version of Webkit. | Sep 30 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | In Safari. | Sep 30 18:54 |
| MinceR | pretty much all i'm missing now is the Scroll Progress extension | Sep 30 18:54 |
| MinceR | which mozilla denies ever existed | Sep 30 18:54 |
| MinceR | i don't have safari | Sep 30 18:55 |
| MinceR | i have midori and rekonq | Sep 30 18:55 |
| MinceR | maybe other stuff | Sep 30 18:55 |
| MinceR | i wonder if chromium will keep supporting ALSA | Sep 30 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781980040527355904 | Sep 30 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated | Sep 30 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes https://t.co/X4FjmHzile | Sep 30 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/arion212112/status/781985733557030912 | Sep 30 19:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, | Sep 30 19:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @arion212112 Better Accelerometers https://t.co/T1jvhbSXDo | Sep 30 19:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 19:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 19:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 19:00 | |
| XRevan86 | >Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Sep 30 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(layout_engine) | Sep 30 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Servo (layout engine) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ptlrp ] | Sep 30 19:00 | |
| XRevan86 | ugh, ugh | Sep 30 19:00 |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/releases | Sep 30 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Releases · linuxmint/Cinnamon · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/ptlrr ] | Sep 30 19:01 | |
| XRevan86 | Where's the thing? | Sep 30 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Mozilla is working on a new rendering engine called Servo. | Sep 30 19:01 |
| MinceR | well, it isn't difficult to make something worse than gecko | Sep 30 19:02 |
| MinceR | managed to install Scroll Progress from the file :> | Sep 30 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apple wrote to KDE to Kongratulate them ;) about how khtml and kjs were only about 100,000 source lines of code, and to say that Gecko was too bloated for their Safari browser to use. | Sep 30 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | Today, Webkit is actually bigger than Gecko. | Sep 30 19:08 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Matthew Garrett was talking about LightDM about a couple of years ago. | Sep 30 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | He said that "light" means you don't understand the problem the original was trying to solve, most of the time. | Sep 30 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | Like, you end up being 90% of the size of the project you were replacing and you crash more because it's all new code. | Sep 30 19:10 |
| ---Emchan_alt is now known as Emchan | Sep 30 19:10 | |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | In the LightDM case, he compared it with GDM, which loads gnome-session. He said that it was to gain access to GNOME's power and accessibility policies. | Sep 30 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | Without that, GDM has to implement their own and it beccomes inconsistent. | Sep 30 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that LightDM was a good idea. I don't think that Mir was a good idea. I don't think that a lot of the things Ubuntu set out to do are good ideas. | Sep 30 19:12 |
| cubexyz | sorry, but some DMs used much less memory than others | Sep 30 19:12 |
| MinceR | i don't think that any of the DMs that depend on systemd-logind are good ideas | Sep 30 19:12 |
| cubexyz | it's quite noticeable | Sep 30 19:12 |
| MinceR | startx is better than all of them anyway | Sep 30 19:12 |
| MinceR | it can do everything they can do, and more | Sep 30 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | I railed about Indicators at one point. I said that they basically replace existing functionality, you can't right-click on them, you have to patch every application to use them because upstream probably won't. | Sep 30 19:13 |
| cubexyz | 4.5 megs for icewm... 200 megs for KDE | Sep 30 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | And all of that turned out to be....true. | Sep 30 19:13 |
| MinceR | and it's lighter than all of them | Sep 30 19:13 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: also, some distros actually break applications' systray support | Sep 30 19:13 |
| MinceR | via patches | Sep 30 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME was considering making Indicators a part of GNOME, which would have at least been better, because then the upstreams would say "Hey look! We should support this.'. | Sep 30 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | But they didn't beccause of Canonical's CLA. | Sep 30 19:13 |
| MinceR | they shouldn't | Sep 30 19:14 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: LightDM is pretty nice. | Sep 30 19:14 |
| MinceR | it's incompatible for the sake of being incompatible | Sep 30 19:14 |
| XRevan86 | not light though | Sep 30 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah, now you have two sets of code in each app. | Sep 30 19:14 |
| cubexyz | not saying everyone has to use ratpoison, but come on... KDE and Gnome are bloated now | Sep 30 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | To deal with two different ways of putting an icon in the system tray. | Sep 30 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | And with Indicators, you lose the right-click menu. | Sep 30 19:15 |
| MinceR | lightdm depends on systemd, doesn't it? | Sep 30 19:15 |
| MinceR | => into the trash it goes | Sep 30 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | I think that people who want Ubuntu-compatibility for easy acccess to apps should just load Kubuntu, which is staying out of this mess. | Sep 30 19:15 |
| MinceR | (also, it's not light by a long shot) | Sep 30 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical mostly fucks up on the GUI, which is all in Unity. | Sep 30 19:15 |
| MinceR | canonical fucks up everything they touch | Sep 30 19:15 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/compare-all-wms.png | Sep 30 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I don't think it is. | Sep 30 19:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Can you get it from the trash for while I'm checking? | Sep 30 19:17 |
| MinceR | well, the gentoo ebuild said "inherit [...] systemd" | Sep 30 19:17 |
| *XRevan86 opened http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk/view/head:/configure.ac | Sep 30 19:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bazaar.launchpad.net | ~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk : contents of configure.ac at revision 2403 | Sep 30 19:17 | |
| cubexyz | surely you can build it without systemd stuff? | Sep 30 19:18 |
| XRevan86 | oddly enough, I mentions of neither systemd-login nor consolekit | Sep 30 19:18 |
| XRevan86 | Debian's package dependency says: libpam-systemd or consolekit | Sep 30 19:21 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's implemented in runtime | Sep 30 19:21 |
| MinceR | not that i'm terribly fond of consolekit | Sep 30 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcoms-extradition-appeal-concludes-160928/ | Sep 30 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kim Dotcom's Extradition Appeal Concludes, Will He Get a "Fair Go"? - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/ptbph ] | Sep 30 19:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Sep 30 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Sep 30 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the United States wouldn't give him an unfair trial....I mean, of course it would. | Sep 30 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | This is the same country that takes a Turkish date farmer and imprisons him forever in Guantanamo Bay and tortures him, having decided to keep him in prison forever, the only question being if there's going to be a "trial" somewhere along the way. | Sep 30 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | In the case of MegaUpload, Mr. Dotcom was fully in compliance with the US DMCA law, but that didn't matter. The MPAA had the US government raid and destroy his business anyway. | Sep 30 19:25 |
| XRevan86 | And GDM on the other hand depends on GNOME Shell. | Sep 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, looks like it settles for consolekit | Sep 30 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | So in 2016 comparing LightDM and GDM is weird. | Sep 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | startx, on the other hand, requires neither :> | Sep 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | wow, GDM has gone to shit | Sep 30 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | GDM is just for GNOME. | Sep 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | then again, it's to be expected | Sep 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | now i remember poettering wanting GDM to essentially run a whole gnome desktop | Sep 30 19:27 |
| MinceR | because otherwise you hate blind people | Sep 30 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | And LightDM is a DM, it works, has nice frontends. Not very light again, but I guess that's no longer the point. | Sep 30 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-we-cant-stop-pirate-sites-160927/ | Sep 30 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cloudflare: We Can't Shut Down Pirate Sites - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/pt8ig ] | Sep 30 19:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Sep 30 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Sep 30 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not wild about Cloudflare anyway. For one thing, sites that use them for Distributed Denial of Service Attack protection will fail to load in your web browser if you have Javascript turns off. | Sep 30 19:27 |
| MinceR | in a world where most DMs try to force Lendows on you, it no longer matters | Sep 30 19:28 |
| MinceR | cloudflare also blocks tor, afaik | Sep 30 19:28 |
| MinceR | which sucks | Sep 30 19:28 |
| XRevan86 | There's also SDDM which I didn't fairly try… | Sep 30 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Tor has a security slider now. | Sep 30 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's set to Low by default. I recommend Medium-High in general. | Sep 30 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | On High, basically everything is broken by default. On Low, there's too many ways a site can attack the browser and de-anonymize you. | Sep 30 19:29 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 30 19:30 |
| MinceR | i've read about it recently | Sep 30 19:30 |
| XRevan86 | And even though LightDM is maintained by Ubuntu guys, it's fine. That's the biggest surprise here. | Sep 30 19:30 |
| MinceR | the way things are going, they'll break it eventually | Sep 30 19:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They kinda did. But then something happened and they fixed it all. | Sep 30 19:31 |
| XRevan86 | They made ayatana indicators a requirement for some features in the gtk-greeter. | Sep 30 19:32 |
| XRevan86 | And then they didn't | Sep 30 19:32 |
| MinceR | well, at least this debacle made me rediscover startx and realize that i can indeed select session types with it | Sep 30 19:34 |
| MinceR | especially on funtoo/gentoo, where an envvar determines which one to start | Sep 30 19:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, you finally made your way to Gentoo? :) | Sep 30 19:34 |
| MinceR | but i can emulate that behavior elsewhere too by writing an appropriate .xsession | Sep 30 19:34 |
| MinceR | well, i investigated funtoo and gentoo-prefix again | Sep 30 19:35 |
| MinceR | my test VM has a gentoo RAP in it, under Devuan, which seems to work | Sep 30 19:35 |
| MinceR | but i want to test something on Bedrock again | Sep 30 19:35 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/humboldt-fraktur-font.png | Sep 30 19:37 |
| MinceR | the above startx behavior i found out on my funtoo VM | Sep 30 19:37 |
| MinceR | what's the executable name for this Font Viewer? | Sep 30 19:37 |
| cubexyz | that's kfontview | Sep 30 19:38 |
| MinceR | ah, thanks | Sep 30 19:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Bedrock? | Sep 30 19:38 |
| MinceR | Bedrock Linux | Sep 30 19:38 |
| MinceR | http://bedrocklinux.org/ | Sep 30 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bedrocklinux.org | Bedrock Linux | Sep 30 19:38 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, that weird thing. | Sep 30 19:39 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 30 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What video player is in the tray? | Sep 30 19:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, i was looking for ways to have its functionality without actually using it | Sep 30 19:39 |
| MinceR | which is what led me to Nix and Gentoo Prefix/RAP, among other things | Sep 30 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: not-SMPlayer + SMTube | Sep 30 19:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Nix is still a thing? | Sep 30 19:41 |
| MinceR | yes | Sep 30 19:41 |
| MinceR | it doesn't work perfectly though | Sep 30 19:41 |
| cubexyz | that's gnome-mplayer | Sep 30 19:41 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe at least you know what's the difference between Nix and Guix | Sep 30 19:41 |
| MinceR | vaguely | Sep 30 19:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I was afraid you'll say that | Sep 30 19:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's practically dead | Sep 30 19:42 |
| MinceR | hm, maybe i should give Guix a try as well | Sep 30 19:42 |
| XRevan86 | and doesn't support mpv | Sep 30 19:42 |
| cubexyz | I barely even use it :) | Sep 30 19:42 |
| MinceR | does Guix work without GuixSD? | Sep 30 19:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yes | Sep 30 19:43 |
| cubexyz | I normally just use mplayer from the terminal | Sep 30 19:43 |
| MinceR | nice | Sep 30 19:43 |
| *XRevan86 gived an oath of faith to MPV because MPlayer lack VA-API support. | Sep 30 19:43 | |
| XRevan86 | lacks* | Sep 30 19:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 30 19:43 |
| XRevan86 | also A/V sync in mplayer doesn't work good | Sep 30 19:43 |
| cubexyz | oh another fork... how unexpected :) | Sep 30 19:44 |
| *MinceR just uses VLC after way too much struggling with broken mplayer and xine frontends | Sep 30 19:44 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You mean phonon fronends? | Sep 30 19:44 |
| XRevan86 | frontends | Sep 30 19:44 |
| MinceR | no, GUIs | Sep 30 19:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: SMPlayer is nice. | Sep 30 19:44 |
| MinceR | every single one of them a unique snowflake | Sep 30 19:44 |
| XRevan86 | Ugly by default (and that illness progresses in time) but configurable | Sep 30 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | * with time | Sep 30 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | so it's possible to neutralise the ugliness | Sep 30 19:45 |
| cubexyz | I have smplayer also | Sep 30 19:46 |
| cubexyz | vector linux just puts gnome-mplayer in icewm as a default | Sep 30 19:46 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Another one of those Slackware based ones, eh? | Sep 30 19:47 |
| cubexyz | yes | Sep 30 19:47 |
| MinceR | oh, and mplayer quitting at the end of a video | Sep 30 19:49 |
| MinceR | that was a lot of fun too | Sep 30 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's not relevant to frontends :) | Sep 30 19:54 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 30 19:54 | |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 30 19:54 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And actually, for me for mpv/mplayer itself that's an expected behaviour | Sep 30 19:55 |
| MinceR | kind of makes it difficult to seek back into the video | Sep 30 19:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You can start it over %) | Sep 30 19:57 |
| cubexyz | mplayer -ss 4:30 :) | Sep 30 19:57 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Also, unlike mplayer2 mpv is really alive. | Sep 30 19:57 |
| cubexyz | what does mpv do that mplayer doesn't? | Sep 30 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I did mention two things I really care about :) | Sep 30 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | Because with VA-API video plays much smoother for me because Intel HD doesn't support vdpau, and when even hardware acceleration isn't enough, mpv handles desync well | Sep 30 20:01 |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 30 20:01 | |
| XRevan86 | So with mplayer desync happened a lot more because of the lack of vaapi, and it was much bigger of a problem because it practically doesn't know how to desync. | Sep 30 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | * how to sync | Sep 30 20:02 |
| -->pidgin_log (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 20:02 | |
| XRevan86 | it desyncs and then video just goes on, and then it desyncs more | Sep 30 20:03 |
| XRevan86 | and mplayer doesn't suspect a thing | Sep 30 20:03 |
| cubexyz | I'm looking at the dependencies | Sep 30 20:04 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 20:04 | |
| cubexyz | libass >= 0.12.1 not found | Sep 30 20:07 |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 20:08 | |
| cubexyz | ok, this is going to take a while | Sep 30 20:12 |
| <--Firee has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 20:14 | |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 30 20:19 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 20:35 | |
| XRevan86 | Had an Internet problem. | Sep 30 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | Now good night %). | Sep 30 20:35 |
| MinceR | gn XRevan86 | Sep 30 20:35 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 30 20:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Visionssucheche/status/781950107684052992 | Sep 30 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Visionssucheche: https://t.co/USGQZpRNSO Morton County Sheriff's Department gets it own new tv program https://t.co/zIkMVJI7gB | Sep 30 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Morton County Sheriff's Department - YouTube | Sep 30 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Morton County Sheriff's Department announces arrest warrants against people in #facebook - as if Facebook and #police separate entities? | Sep 30 20:36 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 20:46 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/MC9u3aQ.jpg | Sep 30 20:49 |
| schestowitz | heh | Sep 30 20:59 |
| schestowitz | religion... | Sep 30 20:59 |
| cubexyz | wow, his family experienced a lot of tradegy | Sep 30 21:04 |
| MinceR | his birth being one of them, surely | Sep 30 21:04 |
| cubexyz | elder son shot himself and their daughter died in an airplane crash | Sep 30 21:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NTechlibre/status/782023521476177920 | Sep 30 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NTechlibre: @schestowitz The world is taking a right, so Hiilary looks centrist when in reality she's a #corporatist | Sep 30 21:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated Dolphin...' | Sep 30 21:15 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 21:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782026113669337088 | Sep 30 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phones with Expandable Memory | Sep 30 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/T4EZaD2a31 (www.androidcentral.com) | Sep 30 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phones with Expandable Memory | Android Central | Sep 30 21:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782027058696171521 | Sep 30 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Wear 2.0 dev preview 3 images are ready to | Sep 30 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | download https://t.co/Sn6vGmPhUn (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 30 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Android Wear 2.0 dev preview 3 images are ready to download | Sep 30 21:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782027310123933697 | Sep 30 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Video: Six years of Nexus - A Google phone history | Sep 30 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gbR5Zg7ZRB (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 30 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Video: Six years of Nexus - A Google phone history | Sep 30 21:22 | |
| schestowitz | daemonFC mentioned in http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.htm | Sep 30 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft At Fault? : Tech : Gamenguide | Sep 30 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | "This issue about the OS started when an identity of BaronHK posted on Reddit about installing Linux on the latest Lenovo Yoga book in which BaronHK encountered being blocked by a locked solid state drive (SSD) which Linux cannot define itself, and come up to link the issue to Microsoft." | Sep 30 21:24 |
| schestowitz | they repeat Lenovo's lies | Sep 30 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782027659920506880 | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Gear Watch Designer Beta v 1.2.1 Released | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/t0ez2LswBB (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TvbPYi1VJn (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Gear Watch Designer Beta v 1.2.1 Released - Tizen Experts | Sep 30 21:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Smart View SDK update - Offers New version of DMP and Wireless speaker support - Tizen Experts | Sep 30 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782028860716122112 | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | At Fault? https://t.co/y8g2kWSa6H (www.gamenguide.com) | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782029671861018624 | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phone Under $700 https://t.co/hXg0TDT0dP | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Sep 30 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone Under $700 | Android Central | Sep 30 21:39 | |
| cubexyz | Lenovo are obfuscators | Sep 30 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782031924718145537 | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | From NFS to LizardFS https://t.co/h9T9xH12O9 | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (cedarandthistle.wordpress.com) | Sep 30 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cedarandthistle.wordpress.com | From NFS to LizardFS | The Cedar and the Thistle | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782033825417269248 | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Accelerometers https://t.co/Vo64TlTCoh | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782034004455415808 | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Purism’s next product could be a smartphone that runs | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/free software https://t.co/BdMmBdRAgT | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (liliputing.com) | Sep 30 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Purism's next product could be a smartphone that runs Linux/free software - Liliputing | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782034638910918658 | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VgxfWKFKif (www.linux.com) | Sep 30 21:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| cubexyz | they don't even tell you it's an AMI BIOS | Sep 30 21:53 |
| cubexyz | they obfuscate that... calling it a "Lenovo BIOS" on screen | Sep 30 21:53 |
| cubexyz | only the high priests of BIOS-land are permitted to even look at the BIOS source code | Sep 30 21:54 |
| cubexyz | mere mortals will turn to salt | Sep 30 21:55 |
| cubexyz | the average joe as no chance at all of escaping the limitations of the BIOS | Sep 30 21:56 |
| cubexyz | you can't even use the standard clips to reflash the BIOS chip | Sep 30 21:58 |
| cubexyz | so who do I blame the most? I blame AMI the most | Sep 30 22:00 |
| cubexyz | maybe they were coaxed by Microsoft or Lenovo, I don't know | Sep 30 22:00 |
| cubexyz | can't set AHCI in BIOS... absolutely deliberate | Sep 30 22:04 |
| cubexyz | AMI tests stuff like this... they know better | Sep 30 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782035044512755712 | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Files in Linux https://t.co/g0bN5Ym6Qd (www.linux.com) | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 22:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration Files in Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 30 22:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782035273744080896 | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Drivers https://t.co/BYpw77O7Ya (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 22:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU Drivers - Phoronix | Sep 30 22:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782035485988425728 | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes https://t.co/CkFDe42hOQ | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 30 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 22:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes | Sep 30 22:10 | |
| cubexyz | one day you wake up and realize you're the one testing things | Sep 30 22:13 |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 30 22:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782039846697197573 | Sep 30 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | It's Been Three Years Since Valve Announced SteamOS, | Sep 30 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam Machines https://t.co/E9HNeDzxo8 (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 30 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 23:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's Been Three Years Since Valve Announced SteamOS, Steam Machines - Phoronix | Sep 30 23:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782055152475709440 | Sep 30 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News https://t.co/kgntfoCF2g (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 23:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News | Tux Machines | Sep 30 23:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782055153977266176 | Sep 30 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/EtQyNifpg7 | Sep 30 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 23:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 23:11 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 23:21 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 30 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Make sure you have get updates from more than one place set to local machines only or off. Microsoft has a bittorrent-like update system that defaults to stealing your internet connection to deliver their updates to other Windows users. | Sep 30 23:21 |
| <--sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 30 23:22 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The stock market reacted to the Lenovo layoffs by regaining some of their losses, but they're back down to where they were before. | Sep 30 23:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782055155034226688 | Sep 30 23:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/0YTkUnSZYd | Sep 30 23:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 23:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 23:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 30 23:51 | |
| DaemonFC | I think after the news broke, people bought it expecting a turnaround and then decided that it was an admission that they wasted money on Motorola and have no real presence in the US market. | Sep 30 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't take long | Sep 30 23:51 |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Oct 01 00:16 | |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK 1 point 3 minutes ago* | Oct 01 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | Edge needs to go back in the oven until Adblock works much better and it lets you pick another search engine without returning Bing results anyway... I don't know why they call this "Windows Subsystem for Linux". There's no Linux code anywhere. It's basically GNU/Windows. | Oct 01 00:17 |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-091-096-189-005.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 00:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated Dolphin...' | Oct 01 02:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical...' | Oct 01 02:14 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Oct 01 02:31 |
| schestowitz | [02:24] <schestowitz> daemonFC mentioned in http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.ht | Oct 01 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamenguide | Oct 01 02:31 | |
| DaemonFC | There are AMD models? | Oct 01 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | A comment says those are unaffected. | Oct 01 02:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mpgotch/status/782049044679892992 | Oct 01 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mpgotch: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Wasted vote. | Oct 01 02:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782108418458910720 | Oct 01 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Ubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Performance Compares To Some | Oct 01 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Other Linux Distros https://t.co/3fKFFWxxjY | Oct 01 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Ubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Performance Compares To Some Other Linux Distros - Phoronix | Oct 01 02:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782109055338835968 | Oct 01 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 96Boards SBCs host Intel Joule and Curie IoT modules | Oct 01 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4XgMCtou2u (hackerboards.com) | Oct 01 02:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | 96Boards SBCs host Intel Joule and Curie IoT modules | Oct 01 02:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/782107838642552832 | Oct 01 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @DrJillStein @schestowitz let's do it quickly before robots take over https://t.co/i9pTWz3hO2 | Oct 01 03:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/782108976330702848 | Oct 01 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz @DrJillStein The Military Industrial Complex, I've heard of it... https://t.co/NgTQHxIw9M | Oct 01 03:07 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 03:09 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.geek.com/apple/phil-schiller-thinks-its-sad-that-people-use-5-year-old-computers-1650316/ | Oct 01 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Phil Schiller thinks it’s sad that people use 5-year-old computers | Apple | Geek.com | Oct 01 04:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 01 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | 2 mins · | Oct 01 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that by the time Apple releases new Macs, they're a full generation behind the PCs and about 40% more expensive. | Oct 01 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that Apple abandons computers that are only 5 years old, that people are still using, that could run almost all new software, and can if people load Linux on them. | Oct 01 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that Apple thinks that installing software on your phone or tablet from outside their app store (possible through Jailbreaking) is a "bug" or "vulnerability". We used to call things that let you do that a "computer". | Oct 01 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that anyone buys Apple products. | Oct 01 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782111820433752064 | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BUS1, The Successor To KDBUS, Formally Unveiled -- Aiming | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Mainline Linux Kernel https://t.co/L6UTdC8iBJ | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BUS1, The Successor To KDBUS, Formally Unveiled -- Aiming For Mainline Linux Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 01 04:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782133505660690432 | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CJg6sym1ST (techrights.org) | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Techrights | Oct 01 04:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135292224376832 | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/rD4E8r4pKj | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Oct 01 04:29 | |
| schestowitz | bbl | Oct 01 04:32 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 01 04:37 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 04:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135293545631744 | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/VWUbgIvdct | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 01 04:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135294598406144 | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software and Games https://t.co/geMCEjMgpw | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software and Games | Tux Machines | Oct 01 04:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135295584051200 | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/F4kCKOqNpb | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 01 04:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135296704016384 | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/GpuUwMBd2c | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 01 04:46 | |
| -->liberty_box_ (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 04:46 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Oct 01 04:50 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 04:52 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 01 05:30 | |
| -->Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 05:43 | |
| cubexyz | ideally you want no M$, no Apple, no AMI (this is a tough one), and source code for everything | Oct 01 07:27 |
| cubexyz | AMI is not your friend... not unless you got $10K to license the BIOS | Oct 01 07:28 |
| cubexyz | and that's the _minimum_ amount | Oct 01 07:29 |
| cubexyz | the BIOS game has largely been rigged since the IBM AT 286 | Oct 01 07:29 |
| cubexyz | the good news is the 1998-1999 BIOS code is pretty much in the wild | Oct 01 07:48 |
| XRevan86 | > the good news is the 1998-1999 BIOS code is pretty much in the wild | Oct 01 07:49 |
| XRevan86 | If one doesn't need a specific BIOS for a specific model then there are SeaBIOS and TianoCore in the wild as well. | Oct 01 07:49 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Or do you mean BIOS for a specific PC mention of which I missed? | Oct 01 07:50 |
| cubexyz | ah, I got a lot of old stuff... I'm trying to match it up to the code I have | Oct 01 07:51 |
| cubexyz | award 1999... i810-NS366 | Oct 01 07:52 |
| cubexyz | seabios is fine, but it only takes you so far | Oct 01 07:54 |
| cubexyz | for an old slot 1 motherboard... looks very promising | Oct 01 08:00 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/KVszmjV.jpg | Oct 01 08:06 |
| cubexyz | does vi map upper-case filenames to lower case? | Oct 01 08:10 |
| cubexyz | something odd is going on here | Oct 01 08:10 |
| cubexyz | is that a vfat thing? | Oct 01 08:13 |
| cubexyz | must be | Oct 01 08:13 |
| cubexyz | never noticed that before | Oct 01 08:13 |
| MinceR | if vi did that, it would be unable to open some files :> | Oct 01 08:14 |
| cubexyz | create CAT.TXT on a vfat partition | Oct 01 08:15 |
| cubexyz | then vi cat.txt | Oct 01 08:15 |
| cubexyz | ummm, maybe I mean the other way around... create cat.txt then vi CAT.TXT | Oct 01 08:16 |
| cubexyz | either way it works | Oct 01 08:17 |
| cubexyz | not on ext2 of course | Oct 01 08:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: REM sleep? | Oct 01 08:17 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 01 08:19 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: yes, [v]fat is case insensitive | Oct 01 08:19 |
| XRevan86 | $ touch CAT.txt; vi cat.txt | Oct 01 08:19 |
| XRevan86 | $ ls | Oct 01 08:19 |
| XRevan86 | cat.txt | Oct 01 08:19 |
| MinceR | which is a whole can of worms | Oct 01 08:19 |
| MinceR | naturally, HFS+ (or whatever it's called) on OSuX is also case insensitive | Oct 01 08:20 |
| cubexyz | right, it seems obvious now :) | Oct 01 08:20 |
| MinceR | strangely enough, it isn't on hypeOS | Oct 01 08:20 |
| XRevan86 | vfat is not *that* case insensitive | Oct 01 08:20 |
| MinceR | i guess that's how they met their quota of 'there must be 1 thing in your mobile OS that's slightly less braindead than your desktop OS' | Oct 01 08:20 |
| XRevan86 | but vim just uses the filename that was supplied to it | Oct 01 08:20 |
| MinceR | winblows mobile picked eliminating drive letters to fill that quota | Oct 01 08:21 |
| XRevan86 | if you create CAT.txt and then edit cat.txt and save, CAT.txt will be renamed to cat.txt | Oct 01 08:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What is that (REM sleep)? | Oct 01 08:21 |
| MinceR | well, it's both case insensitive and case-preserving | Oct 01 08:21 |
| MinceR | vfat, that is | Oct 01 08:21 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it's the stage of your sleep in which you dream, afaik | Oct 01 08:21 |
| MinceR | Rapid Eye Movement | Oct 01 08:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ah | Oct 01 08:21 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/owv5tDa.jpg | Oct 01 08:29 |
| -->acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 08:31 | |
| <--acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Oct 01 08:33 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe it was a bad fish | Oct 01 08:38 |
| schestowitz | maybe just a bad overnment | Oct 01 08:38 |
| cubexyz | superfish! | Oct 01 08:38 |
| MinceR | nah, justcommiethings | Oct 01 08:38 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/La51ClA.jpg | Oct 01 08:39 |
| MinceR | also justcommiethings | Oct 01 08:39 |
| cubexyz | I remember some motherboards couldn't use certain CDROMs | Oct 01 08:42 |
| cubexyz | the CDROM was too fast, so it wouldn't work right | Oct 01 08:42 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/OmhC3YL.jpg | Oct 01 08:45 |
| cubexyz | I had a heck of a time with Minix and some hardware | Oct 01 08:46 |
| cubexyz | I did a study on which floppy drives would work as a replacement drive for the amiga | Oct 01 08:51 |
| cubexyz | may as well put it in the log: | Oct 01 08:51 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/amiga-drives.txt | Oct 01 08:51 |
| cubexyz | before I forget | Oct 01 08:51 |
| cubexyz | anyways, I learned a bit more about the IRDA | Oct 01 09:03 |
| cubexyz | there was FIR (serial, slowest), MIR (medium) and FIR (fastest) | Oct 01 09:04 |
| cubexyz | kind of confusing too since there is also ConsumerIR or CIR | Oct 01 09:04 |
| cubexyz | CIR is for remote controls | Oct 01 09:05 |
| cubexyz | an unstandardized mess | Oct 01 09:05 |
| cubexyz | IRDA with it's incredible range of 100 cm | Oct 01 09:08 |
| MinceR | < mst> GIANT ASTEROID 2K16 | Oct 01 09:13 |
| MinceR | < perigrin> mst: make glaciers great again | Oct 01 09:13 |
| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/54eh1a/nobody_can_print_anymore/d81edjo | Oct 01 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | zurohki comments on Nobody can print anymore! | Oct 01 09:40 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: printers are a waste of material and space | Oct 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz | rianne uses one only cause she has to | Oct 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz | I've not had a printer since the 90s | Oct 01 09:53 |
| schestowitz | she need em for labels to be printer (no other option) | Oct 01 09:53 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 01 09:57 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/invasive-species | Oct 01 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Invasive Species [ http://ur1.ca/ptpqr ] | Oct 01 10:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782192569316958208 | Oct 01 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Oct 01 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/CJg6sym1ST (techrights.org) | Oct 01 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 10:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222192113135616 | Oct 01 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Techrights | Oct 01 10:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trainline creates open source platform to help developers | Oct 01 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | deploy apps and environments in AWS | Oct 01 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4UuCgcgEak (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 10:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trainline creates open source platform to help developers deploy apps and environments in AWS | Tux Machines | Oct 01 10:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222193715326976 | Oct 01 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi PIXEL and More Improvements | Oct 01 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FKcoqLCyVO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 10:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi PIXEL and More Improvements | Tux Machines | Oct 01 10:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222194797481984 | Oct 01 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/9c7XklADEO | Oct 01 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 11:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Oct 01 11:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222195946729473 | Oct 01 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/FOSS Events https://t.co/x1BtKkuVEK | Oct 01 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 11:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/FOSS Events | Tux Machines | Oct 01 11:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222197142106113 | Oct 01 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/JtdQ6QW8wR | Oct 01 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 11:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 01 11:13 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 11:16 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/IfMVlfp | Oct 01 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Optional input is required - Imgur | Oct 01 11:18 | |
| <--liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Oct 01 11:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @magicbrad favourited 'Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 &...' | Oct 01 12:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782250164488704000 | Oct 01 12:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/QejAZkopiw | Oct 01 12:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 12:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 12:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 01 12:15 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/getting-high | Oct 01 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Getting High | Oct 01 12:26 | |
| -->pidgin_log (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 12:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782252518738984960 | Oct 01 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/QejAZkopiw | Oct 01 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 12:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782254971463016448 | Oct 01 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The Wine development release 1.9.20 is now available." | Oct 01 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6hC1FaZpuh (www.winehq.org) | Oct 01 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3sMpsU5YTb (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 12:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 1.9.20 is now available. | Oct 01 12:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 1.9.20 Has New Clipboard API Reimplementation - Phoronix | Oct 01 12:35 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Oct 01 12:50 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 12:52 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Oct 01 12:52 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 12:52 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 13:11 | |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Oct 01 13:17 | |
| <--trn has quit (K-Lined) | Oct 01 13:25 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/G8JuIxS.jpg | Oct 01 13:26 |
| cubexyz | my printer is from the 1990s :) | Oct 01 13:28 |
| MinceR | so is mine | Oct 01 13:29 |
| cubexyz | the toner cartridge for the laserjet 5N is chemically stable and I got a great deal on a NOS one | Oct 01 13:30 |
| cubexyz | even wrote the date down.. "replaced on nov 14th 2015" | Oct 01 13:33 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/1GUMk2y.jpg | Oct 01 14:58 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/25WkN | Oct 01 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I feel like I'm still forgetting something - Album on Imgur | Oct 01 15:25 | |
| cubexyz | AMI does Linux testing so no excuses for Lenovo | Oct 01 15:34 |
| cubexyz | they remove support for old stuff... it seems everyone does this more or less | Oct 01 15:35 |
| cubexyz | e.g. Intel Nehalem Family (retired) | Oct 01 15:36 |
| cubexyz | VIA C7 (retired) | Oct 01 15:36 |
| MinceR | maybe lenovo did do linux testing | Oct 01 15:36 |
| MinceR | "doesn't work -- check" | Oct 01 15:36 |
| cubexyz | possible | Oct 01 15:37 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure how much BIOS programming Lenovo does though | Oct 01 15:38 |
| cubexyz | BIOS is _supposed_ to be platform agnostic | Oct 01 15:48 |
| cubexyz | for example in the original IBM PC you could load CP/M or msdos | Oct 01 15:49 |
| cubexyz | coreboot continues that... | Oct 01 15:49 |
| cubexyz | not funny: | Oct 01 15:55 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-boot-windows-81.jpg | Oct 01 15:55 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/HNZzRjc.jpg | Oct 01 16:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 01 16:07 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 16:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782257538708361217 | Oct 01 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/eV0JoK0vuL | Oct 01 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 16:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 01 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782257541229064192 | Oct 01 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 1.9.20 https://t.co/WtYDEmVdjp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 16:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 1.9.20 | Tux Machines | Oct 01 16:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's still in the news | Oct 01 17:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: IMPORTANT: | Oct 01 17:11 |
| schestowitz | someone from germany told me today in comments that his yoga 900 (IIRC) could take gnu/linux OK | Oct 01 17:11 |
| schestowitz | so this may be another bit of evidence, suggesting that they don't artificially cripple the devices/desktops/laptops everywhere in the world | Oct 01 17:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did you get a response from the AG or whatever ? FTC? | Oct 01 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | Nope | Oct 01 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | breadbitten 6 points 1 day ago | Oct 01 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's been a known issue since the AU was released. | Oct 01 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/50kawh/anniversary_updates_freezing_issue_is_fixed_in/ | Oct 01 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | Basically, if you have Win10 installed in an SSD and apps installed in another drive, the SSD experiences periodic spikes in disk usage which froze the system for the entire duration. | Oct 01 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | MS released an update to fix the issue about a week or two after but it did absolutely nothing for most users experiencing that bug. | Oct 01 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Anniversary Update's freezing issue is fixed in today's updates! (OS on SSD, Apps on HDD) : Windows10 | Oct 01 17:47 | |
| MinceR | better upgrade to a free unix, then | Oct 01 18:03 |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Oct 01 18:07 | |
| -->DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 18:25 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | Oct 01 18:28 | |
| ---DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Oct 01 18:30 | |
| DaemonFC | http://qz.com/796101/no-mans-sky-is-being-investigated-in-the-uk-for-false-advertising/ | Oct 01 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | No Man's Sky is being investigated in the UK for false advertising — Quartz | Oct 01 18:33 | |
| DaemonFC | No Man’s Sky was billed as a revolutionary video game—one that contained such multitudes of programmatically generated planets and animals that the developers said even they weren’t sure what players would find in its vast universe. | Oct 01 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | What the players did find, based on user reviews and comment threads across the internet, was a bare-bones, bug-ridden, ultimately shallow version of the game the developers at Hello Games had promised. | Oct 01 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | On Steam, the PC game distribution platform, 88% of the more than 10,000 No Man’s Sky user reviews posted in last 30 days are negative. | Oct 01 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | “This game has endless possiblities [sic],” the top review says. “Almost all of which are not featured in this game.” | Oct 01 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No wonder it went to Gog.com so fast. | Oct 01 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | They have a hard time trying to sell it. Who wants to pirate it? | Oct 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see my updates in Twitter (other channel) | Oct 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | re Lonovo | Oct 01 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | I'm considering playing through TES: Oblivion again. The DLCs all came out after I finished the main quest. | Oct 01 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It did say it could take weeks to get a reply from the Illinois AG office. | Oct 01 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | They probably have bigger fish to fry. | Oct 01 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | As state law enforcement goes, Illinois seems better than average. | Oct 01 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | The state has laws against some things Facebook does, and they are pursuing that. | Oct 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz | that's OK | Oct 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz | just keep being pushy and assertive while polite too | Oct 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | until you have sometuing to publish | Oct 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | keep it in the headlines, it reminds people not to buy Lenovo | Oct 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | and they'll suffer for it, serving as warning sign to other OEMs who got propositions from Microsoft | Oct 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | We did this to Novell after the patent deal | Oct 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | This deal sank their sales across the board (not just SUSE) | Oct 01 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They quickly deleted their admission that there is a Microsoft contract. | Oct 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz | and so no other major Linux company with a distro fell for it except Linspire and Xandros (not big) | Oct 01 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | Now they have people saying it was probably a low level employee who misspoke. | Oct 01 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I remember Linspire pretty well. It started out as Lindows and they got a lot of money from MS to change the name. | Oct 01 18:40 |
| schestowitz | eyah | Oct 01 18:40 |
| schestowitz | 20 million IIRC | Oct 01 18:40 |
| schestowitz | *yeah | Oct 01 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they overpromised what it would be. They said it would be a Linux OS that ran your Windows software and it turned out to be a not-very-good Linux OS with a software store you had to subscribe to *after* paying money for the OS! | Oct 01 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | And the Windows compatibility.....was Wine. And the state of wine from the early 2000s didn't run many Windows apps. | Oct 01 18:41 |
| schestowitz | new wine release today BTW | Oct 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | not sure if you follow this | Oct 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | I put links in tuxmachines about it | Oct 01 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | The only computer I have is my laptop. | Oct 01 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | My desktop had the CPU cooler pop off and it fried the processor. | Oct 01 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | I hate these modern Intel boards where you pop in the CPU cooler legs. | Oct 01 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | Half the time you just break the leg and need to buy a new cooler. | Oct 01 18:44 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kBzvYEQ.jpg | Oct 01 18:45 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Oct 01 18:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7915570 | Oct 01 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Or better say, "bail out the students"? https://twitter.com/MnGreens/status/782333699169800192 | Oct 01 18:47 | |
| schestowitz | "adequately or irresponsibly? it is the government subsidies that caused the high tuitions and worthless degrees" | Oct 01 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MnGreens: Only one party is talking about adequately dealing with the student debt crisis - #VoteGreen2016 #SteinBaraka https://t.co/u1oQzNKHDf | Oct 01 18:47 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, Romans were that stupid | Oct 01 18:48 |
| schestowitz | and bloodlusting | Oct 01 18:48 |
| schestowitz | and ancient Greeks wants to f* their mothers, based on stories they boast about | Oct 01 18:48 |
| cubexyz | just learned today the Lenovo X60 had BIOS with other bad stuff in it | Oct 01 18:48 |
| cubexyz | wifi card lockout | Oct 01 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'll replace Windows 10 as soon as they get Linux to recognize the SSD. | Oct 01 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | If this is really the way Ultrabooks are going, then eventually some Linux developer will get one and decide to work on it. | Oct 01 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | Then again, many OEMs just let you put it in AHCI mode, so maybe it will never get fixed. | Oct 01 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | People who want to run Linux just avoid Lenovo and I'm stuck with Windows 10 forever. | Oct 01 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | The simpler the fix the more likely it gets done. That's why I suggested having Linux reset the storage controller mode to AHCI after GRUB loads the kernel. | Oct 01 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | That has the added benefit of allowing people to dual boot with Windows in "RAID" mode without having to reinstall it to get it to stop crashing. | Oct 01 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | For people who want a dual boot configuration, anyway. | Oct 01 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It seems with Wine it's always one step forward and two steps back. | Oct 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're going to have to implement Universal Windows App support. | Oct 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Although some of the code that Microsoft recently released as open source may help Wine. | Oct 01 18:53 |
| MinceR | sounds like a trap | Oct 01 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | We now have their Powershell, .Net, and Chakra Javascript engine. | Oct 01 18:53 |
| MinceR | the first two (at least) designed to be a patent minefield | Oct 01 18:54 |
| MinceR | yay! | Oct 01 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's all under the MIT license. In theory, anyone who makes a web browser could implement Chakra as their Javascript engine, though I understand it's mostly for debugging and running things like Node.js. | Oct 01 18:54 |
| MinceR | which includes no provisions for sw patents | Oct 01 18:55 |
| MinceR | so they'll happily send their lawyers to patent extort you once you release something based on their crap | Oct 01 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think that MS would have a hard time arguing that they released it under a license saying that anyone could use it, modify it, or redistribute it, and that they didn't want them to do that. | Oct 01 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm also unaware of anything that Powershell or Chakra do that fall under an MS patent. | Oct 01 18:56 |
| MinceR | the licence applies to the copyright on the source code | Oct 01 18:56 |
| MinceR | it says nothing about the patents that cover that code | Oct 01 18:56 |
| MinceR | powerhell is based on .net | Oct 01 18:56 |
| MinceR | i don't know about chakra | Oct 01 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | Chakra isn't. | Oct 01 18:56 |
| MinceR | i never cared about the brokenness inside idiot exploiter and its new name | Oct 01 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | EdgeHTML is still proprietary for now. | Oct 01 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | It may become open source at some point. | Oct 01 18:57 |
| MinceR | and nobody cares | Oct 01 18:57 |
| MinceR | does anyone still expect m$ to someday come up with a browser that isn't total garbage? | Oct 01 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | EdgeHTML isn't "garbage", but the Edge browser is. | Oct 01 18:58 |
| MinceR | they either don't care about project quality or are completely incompetent, or both | Oct 01 18:58 |
| MinceR | s/jec/duc/ | Oct 01 18:58 |
| MinceR | they probably consider any cent not spent on ads, lawyers or corruption to be a waste of money | Oct 01 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | They made a decent rendering engine and stuffed it into a useless web browser that's full of spyware and forces you to use Bing even if you don't want to, where Adblock doesn't work properly. | Oct 01 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | So I almost never open Edge. | Oct 01 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, People are treating Edge like they did IE. | Oct 01 18:59 |
| MinceR | big surprise | Oct 01 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | They open Edge, use it to download Chrome or Firefox, and then never open Edge again. | Oct 01 19:00 |
| MinceR | people wised up to m$ changing names and logos instead of fixing code | Oct 01 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I saw a thing on Facebook the other day. Wish I downloaded it. | Oct 01 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | It was from Rick and Morty. The episode where they made a butter dish with artificial intelligence. | Oct 01 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | "What's my purpose!?" You serve butter! | Oct 01 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | Someone put an MS Edge logo on its face and it says "What's my purpose!?" You download Chrome! | Oct 01 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782341935579226113 | Oct 01 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/eV0JoK0vuL | Oct 01 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 19:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 01 19:02 | |
| MinceR | https://ageofshitlords.com/student-officially-changes-personal-pronoun-majesty/ | Oct 01 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ageofshitlords.com | Student officially changes his personal pronoun to "His Majesty" - Age Of Shitlords | Oct 01 19:02 | |
| MinceR | yeah, i think i've seen that | Oct 01 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Adding up all versions of IE and Edge, you get about the same number of users as Firefox. | Oct 01 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | But Firefox users are mostly all on the same version. Or ESR at the least. | Oct 01 19:02 |
| MinceR | i don't care, i switched to Pale Moon | Oct 01 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | Many IE users are using a version that MS stopped supporting and aren't even getting security fixes. | Oct 01 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | There's no support for IE 10 or earlier now. | Oct 01 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | Well, IE 9 if you're on Vista, but only until April. | Oct 01 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | But that has so few users that it's barely worth mentioning. | Oct 01 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | Even Paul Thurrott criticized Edge. | Oct 01 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | He said something like, "Even if Edge started out on par with the rest, and it is far from it, only releasing new versions of it a couple of times a year means that it would never be able to keep up.". | Oct 01 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | MS is treating it like an OS component instead of an app, so it can't get updates apart from Windows. | Oct 01 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | So you're stuck with whatever state it's in from the last release of the OS, probably for the next 9-10 months. | Oct 01 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Someone on Reddit made a Windows 10 lookalike in HTML 5. If you click on Cortana "Ask Me Anything" it says "Just kidding. I'm useless.". | Oct 01 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | So I went back to the topic and commented "You got Cortana right, at least.". | Oct 01 19:07 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 01 19:07 |
| MinceR | url? | Oct 01 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~tvillare/win10/ | Oct 01 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-users.csc.calpoly.edu | Desktop [ http://ur1.ca/ptshe ] | Oct 01 19:08 | |
| MinceR | lol, thx | Oct 01 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 01 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 01 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | So if you launch No Man's Sky with an Intel graphics adapter, it crashes and says "Sorry, Intel graphics are unsupported.". | Oct 01 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that there's a hack to get around this and run it anyway. Some guy on Youtube was running it on an HD 4400, which is much slower than my Iris 540. So I'm in the process of trying to find the hack. | Oct 01 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? | Oct 01 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I understand there's a library that fakes the game out and tells it that you have an Nvidia card, and then the game works. | Oct 01 19:11 |
| cubexyz | I'm surprised people aren't more worried about the intel ME backdoor | Oct 01 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | That reeks of bad design. They couldn't just blacklist the Intel chipsets that really couldn't run it? | Oct 01 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | They should have tested at least on the recent Intel adapters and whitelisted them. | Oct 01 19:12 |
| MinceR | blacklisting also reeks of bad design | Oct 01 19:12 |
| MinceR | just document it and let the user try | Oct 01 19:12 |
| cubexyz | ME can be active during hiberation... | Oct 01 19:13 |
| cubexyz | dedicated connection to the network interface INDEPENDENT of the cpu | Oct 01 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You mean like "This game uses features that pre-2015 Intel graphics don't have. It may perform poorly or crash.". in the system requirements? | Oct 01 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that would be fair. | Oct 01 19:15 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 01 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I just posted this on their Facebook wall. | Oct 01 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer to No Man's Sky | Oct 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | So if you launch No Man's Sky with an Intel graphics adapter, it crashes and says "Sorry, Intel graphics are unsupported.". | Oct 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that there's a hack to get around this and run it anyway. Some guy on Youtube was running it on an HD 4400, which is much slower than my Iris 540. So I'm in the process of trying to find the hack. | Oct 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? | Oct 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | (This reeks of bad design. Just document that you don't support it and let the user try. How the hell do you know what Intel graphics will be capable of in the coming years? A blanket blacklist stays around forever!) | Oct 01 19:18 |
| MinceR | you pasted that one already :> | Oct 01 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, added the part at the bottom. | Oct 01 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | I still have games from ~10 years ago where if it returns Intel they won't let you play it. | Oct 01 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | There's fixes for those too. | Oct 01 19:20 |
| MinceR | ah | Oct 01 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4xk0od/fix_for_video_card_without_opengl_45/ | Oct 01 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | FIX for video Card without OPENGL 4.5 : NoMansSkyTheGame | Oct 01 19:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, the game is only using one extension from OpenGL 4.5 and crashes without it. | Oct 01 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test | Oct 01 19:23 |
| schestowitz | [23:49] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I'll replace Windows 10 as soon as they get Linux to recognize the SSD. | Oct 01 19:24 |
| schestowitz | If you get the German version of this device ;-) | Oct 01 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know if that was an ISK2 that he had though, schestowitz | Oct 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | If he has an ISK it will install no problem. | Oct 01 19:25 |
| schestowitz | not sure, not been following it | Oct 01 19:25 |
| schestowitz | keep chasing, I'll spread the word | Oct 01 19:25 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to write about it yet | Oct 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo did the ISK2 as a mid-cycle refresh, and they added a processor upgrade with better graphics. The Iris 540 on mine, the HD 520 on the ISK. | Oct 01 19:26 |
| schestowitz | but I took lots of notes | Oct 01 19:26 |
| schestowitz | and registered all the resultant articles and blog posts about it | Oct 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | The HD 520 is really really slow. It can't run many things. Iris 540 = many games become playable at 1366x728 at medium or better graphics settings. | Oct 01 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | There's also Iris Pro 580, but that's not an option on the Yoga unfortunately. Would have bought that if it was though. | Oct 01 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | *1366x768 | Oct 01 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | GLInterceptx64_1_3_3.exe 1/55 says it's a virus on VirusTotal. | Oct 01 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | WTF is Bkav? | Oct 01 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 01 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | You can put just about any Windows program in VirusTotal and have at least one go off due to false positive. | Oct 01 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | W32.eHeur.Malware09 | Oct 01 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | That suggests that the heuristics scanner of that one AV program didn't like something about the file. | Oct 01 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, it could be anything, even the file compression. | Oct 01 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | bkav appears to be some off brand antivirus program from Vietnam. | Oct 01 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Probably explains why I never heard of it. Why does Google put this crap in VirusTotal? | Oct 01 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | I applied the workaround. Now to see if it loads. | Oct 01 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Nope. | Oct 01 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | That's okay. I always try them out before I buy them anyway. | Oct 01 19:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AuthorJCStorms/status/782365209214136320 | Oct 01 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AuthorJCStorms: @schestowitz Per nation? As in each nation chooses their rule of censorship? Yeah, for Europe, that's NOT fucking good. | Oct 01 19:47 | |
| DaemonFC | Gog and Steam weasel their way out of their Money Back Guarantee from what I hear. | Oct 01 19:47 |
| schestowitz | They always did that using filtering software, sometimes law enforcement. Now it's getting worse due to policy. | Oct 01 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | Steam warns people that the <2 hours of play and owning for <2 weeks MBG is "not to be used to figure out if it works and then get your money back if it doesn't". | Oct 01 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | Since I can't figure out why anyone would try to use the MBG for anything else, that renders it worthless. | Oct 01 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | So it makes more sense to just grab it somewhere else, see if it works, and then buy it if it does. | Oct 01 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | Trying to return software that doesn't work has always been dicey. Usually, they're happy to just leave you out the money and with a program that doesn't work on your computer. | Oct 01 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | When software was sold in boxes at stores, if it didn't work, I'd actually put it in shrinkwrap myself and then use a hairdryer on it and say I got it as a birthday present and it didn't work on my computer. | Oct 01 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | The law says if it's still in the shrinkwrap, you can return it. | Oct 01 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody who makes $8 an hour at Walmart is going to argue too much. | Oct 01 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently the original The Witcher game was censored for the North American release, but not the international version? | Oct 01 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | Interesting. The US is usually better about free speech than the rest of the English speaking countries. | Oct 01 19:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AuthorJCStorms/status/782367233578184704 | Oct 01 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AuthorJCStorms: @schestowitz So you think this is inherently better this transfer take place? To an international group? | Oct 01 19:55 | |
| DaemonFC | The UK recently arrested a man for saying that a woman was going to go to hell for wearing tight pants. | Oct 01 19:55 |
| schestowitz | The international group would not do more than what's already being done anyway, sometimes worse | Oct 01 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe it was to avoid the ESRB MA rating, but that doesn't make sense. That dictates what stores will carry it as store policy, but it was released directly over the internet. | Oct 01 19:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/782367286183227392 | Oct 01 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: "intel inside" has a whole new meaning https://t.co/6HDGCHj06R | Oct 01 19:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: What good is a so-called 'smart' device if it's remotely controlled not by users but by malicious entities like #gchq who view you as enemy? | Oct 01 19:56 | |
| schestowitz | Back doors (ME). See http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences | Oct 01 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights | Oct 01 19:56 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Recent AMD processors have their version of the same thing. | Oct 01 19:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pceebee23/status/782367305648840704 | Oct 01 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pceebee23: @schestowitz and they use it relentlessly... all comms all the time... | Oct 01 19:56 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, I know | Oct 01 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Russia is leaving x86 behind | Oct 01 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Lenovo Forums seems to have banned all Comcast users in Illinois to make sure I don't come back. | Oct 01 19:57 |
| schestowitz | wow | Oct 01 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | tor browser lets me come back | Oct 01 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I have another account there now, but I can only use their forums over tor. | Oct 01 19:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 01 19:59 |
| schestowitz | maybe tell them about that ban | Oct 01 19:59 |
| schestowitz | say you're someone from another place in Illinois | Oct 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | and then see them ban tor | Oct 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | play their game | Oct 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | report back | Oct 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | This is reinforcing the idea that they are hiding, afraid, unable to defend themselves from argument | Oct 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | so they shoot messengers | Oct 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AuthorJCStorms/status/782368946963918848 | Oct 01 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AuthorJCStorms: @schestowitz I doubt you have any solid evidence to back that up. I'll stay at bay and just hope for the best. Which is a total shit fall. | Oct 01 20:01 | |
| schestowitz | re IANA | Oct 01 20:01 |
| MinceR | time to get a truly distributed replacement for DNS | Oct 01 20:11 |
| MinceR | long overdue, really | Oct 01 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/55fy27/lenovo_forums_seems_to_have_possibly_banned_all/ | Oct 01 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Forums seems to have (possibly?) banned all Comcast users in the state of Illinois in order to try to silence the discussion of Linux on Yoga problems. [x-post from /r/lenovo] : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ptsro ] | Oct 01 20:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/782372291191644161 | Oct 01 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Yes @schestowitz I understand. Was thinking people out there might appreciate some edukashiun. Must take a GCSE in English some time. | Oct 01 20:13 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: excellent! | Oct 01 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I added at the end... I just wanted to let everyone know what happened in case they thought that people didn't want to talk about the Linux problems on Lenovo's Forums. In reality, people are steaming mad about this and their accounts are being banned and their threads deleted or modified. | Oct 01 20:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I'm promoting this now | Oct 01 20:22 |
| schestowitz | hoping to drive some upvotes | Oct 01 20:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, quoted that last bit just now | Oct 01 20:23 |
| schestowitz | 2 am here almost, so might be hard to build momentum (early Sunday) | Oct 01 20:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: OK, it's starting to get retweeted by large users | Oct 01 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | That was fast. | Oct 01 20:23 |
| schestowitz | even a GNU developer | Oct 01 20:23 |
| schestowitz | now about 10 votes I think | Oct 01 20:24 |
| schestowitz | 40% suggested 5 votes or 10 | Oct 01 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Hopefully the mods don't lock it again. | Oct 01 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | I hate the mods on that subreddit. | Oct 01 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Get a discussion going. It gets locked. | Oct 01 20:25 |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Oct 01 20:26 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.fool.com/p/60/www.motleyfool.idmanagedsolutions.com/charts/caps/thumbnail.chart?SYMBOL_US=LNVGY&TIME_SPAN=2Y&TYPE=mountain&RESOLUTION=5M&AXIS_SCALE=lin&HEIGHT=150&WIDTH=285&ID_BENCH1=28798185 | Oct 01 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Red line is the S&P 500 performance over the last ttwo years. Blue line is Lenovo. | Oct 01 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | Glad that we don't have any of their stock in John's retirement account. | Oct 01 20:28 |
| schestowitz | wow, 38% upvoted | Oct 01 20:30 |
| schestowitz | so there are loads of votes already | Oct 01 20:30 |
| schestowitz | divisible by what? | Oct 01 20:31 |
| schestowitz | more than 20 for sure | Oct 01 20:31 |
| schestowitz | me: "The mistreatment of #gnu #linux by #lenovo isn't what's going to nearly kill them. It's their endless lies about it rather than apology+fix." | Oct 01 20:32 |
| schestowitz | you can see what I write, e.g. in Twitter | Oct 01 20:32 |
| schestowitz | or https://www.joindiaspora.com/people/da68a1f811b0f71e | Oct 01 20:32 |
| schestowitz | [01:34] <schestowitz> back up to 44% | Oct 01 20:34 |
| schestowitz | [01:34] <schestowitz> we can make this stick like the last time at 200 with lots of comments | Oct 01 20:34 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: bury squad likely there, maybe volunteers too | Oct 01 20:34 |
| schestowitz | those who think Microsoft is awesome and Lenovo is just a victim | Oct 01 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I figured that this would happen. | Oct 01 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | The original post about it that got locked is still getting some up votes. | Oct 01 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782354880035823616 | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For lessons on digital swaraj, Gandhi is an open source | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DBv63is0B0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 20:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | For lessons on digital swaraj, Gandhi is an open source | Tux Machines | Oct 01 20:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782378834729598976 | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Experimental Unity Vulkan Demos For Linux | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sjVVqcBfn1 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 20:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Experimental Unity Vulkan Demos For Linux - Phoronix | Oct 01 20:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782379273747324928 | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Humble Artifex Mundi Bundle has all its Hidden Object | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | games with full Linux support https://t.co/KnWc098P0y | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Oct 01 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 20:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-humble-artifex-mundi-bundle-has-all-its-hidden-object-games-with-full-linux-support.8182 ) | Oct 01 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782153565326409728 | Oct 01 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @hintjens @hackaday then watch the youtube video: https://t.co/u5yk6t9gL3 | Oct 01 20:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782220319876677632 | Oct 01 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @jwildeboer @hintjens you miss the last one :-) | Oct 01 20:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/782270667827908609 | Oct 01 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @travisgoodspeed @radareorg I was dreaming of a website where one could upload firmwares and run some automated analysis. | Oct 01 20:50 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Oct 01 20:52 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mozilla-Project-Mortar | Oct 01 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla's Project Mortar Wants Pepper API Flash & PDFium In Firefox - Phoronix | Oct 01 21:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is being killed by Chrome. | Oct 01 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Google can make Chrome do anything because they have an unlimited amount of money to throw into it. | Oct 01 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Including the money that they are no longer paying Mozilla for the search deal. | Oct 01 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that the vast majority of Mozilla's income was from the Google deal, so they have been hurt badly. | Oct 01 21:09 |
| MinceR | no, firefox is being killed by mozilla | Oct 01 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | As far as I can tell, they haven't released a financial statement for 2015, so we won't know how much they brought in until they do. | Oct 01 21:12 |
| MinceR | they do one atrocious change after the other | Oct 01 21:12 |
| MinceR | one wrong decision after the other | Oct 01 21:12 |
| MinceR | what started with them giving in about video codecs culminated in them requiring pulseaudio on gnu/linux | Oct 01 21:13 |
| MinceR | for no good reason | Oct 01 21:13 |
| MinceR | switching to pale moon was a huge improvement | Oct 01 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla is probably running on steam (cash on hand from before the deal with Google expired). | Oct 01 21:15 |
| MinceR | it would make more sense to let volunteers improve a browser than what they do now, spending leftover cash on making it worse | Oct 01 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Pale Moon has revenue. | Oct 01 21:17 |
| MinceR | good | Oct 01 21:18 |
| MinceR | where do they get it? | Oct 01 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I think most of it comes from DuckDuckGo. They removed Google from the default providers. | Oct 01 21:18 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 01 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | They also have some affiliate links in the start page. | Oct 01 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | Like if you click through to ebay and buy something, Pale Moon gets a small affiliate fee from the sale. | Oct 01 21:19 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 01 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | So it has revenue streams but nobody forces you to use them. | Oct 01 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Moonchild (the main developer) says that he's just trying to pay the bills and make a decent income from it. | Oct 01 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | He said that some people approached him about bundling crapware (like with OpenCandy) and he told them to fuck off. | Oct 01 21:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 01 21:21 |
| MinceR | he's doing it right | Oct 01 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2837 | Oct 01 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.palemoon.org | Will Pale Moon bundle other software in the installer? - Pale Moon forum | Oct 01 21:22 | |
| MinceR | pale moon even has icons for every search engine in the search bar | Oct 01 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Will Pale Moon bundle other software in its installer? | Oct 01 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | I regularly get e-mails from companies wanting to piggyback third-party software and "offers" in the Pale Moon installer. Let me be absolutely clear to everyone so they don't waste my time or their own: | Oct 01 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Pale Moon will NEVER, ever, bundle third party software, commercial offers, search/other toolbars, or other additional software in its installer package. | Oct 01 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | This means: | Oct 01 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Quit e-mailing me already. I'm not interested. I don't care how smart you think your "program"/"system" is or how witty you think your name-pun of your domain is, or in what way your "offers" are better than those of competitors. | Oct 01 21:22 |
| MinceR | i don't even know when firefox started forgetting most of them | Oct 01 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | If you ever see a Pale Moon installers being distributed with additional offers, bundled software or ads in the installer, they are illegal, and in direct violation of the redistribution license for Pale Moon binaries (let me know so I can send a cease and desist letter). Note that this includes "download helpers/managers" and "stub installers" as well that offer additional software. | Oct 01 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Pale Moon will not be a valid target for "monetization of free software" this way. Ever. I'd rather have the project explode in a million chunks before I let unspecified third party software catch a ride. I hate it with a passion myself when I download software and I get all sorts of software (let alone vapor- and junkware) that I didn't want in the first place. Or having to untick a dozen boxes to just get what I went to a manufacturer's | Oct 01 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | website for, specifically. | Oct 01 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The bundled shitware problem has gotten so bad on Windows that you have to forget about using most download sites. | Oct 01 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Even some hardware drivers offer you unrelated software now. | Oct 01 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | I have all Intel stuff in this laptop so they don't do that, but AMD and Nvidia's driver bundles install bloatware. | Oct 01 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | Like Raptr. | Oct 01 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | "AMD Gaming Evolved" (Raptr) | Oct 01 21:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 01 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | It sits in your system tray and takes RAM and complains that it can't find a path to drives that don't exist (WTF!?). | Oct 01 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | It says it "optimizes" your games. Whatever that means. | Oct 01 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Crapware. Even if you get Windows on a "Signature" PC, it'll find a way to get in later. | Oct 01 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you're extremely careful. | Oct 01 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe if the Windows Store catches on, it will solve *that* problem, but I wouldn't count on it. | Oct 01 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Developers will probably offer MS part of the crapware bounty and then it'll all get whitelisted and ignored by Windows Defender. | Oct 01 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Or Microsoft will buy the advertising company that delivers ads to the crapware. | Oct 01 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | That's happened before. | Oct 01 21:33 |
| MinceR | exactly | Oct 01 21:33 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 01 21:34 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 21:34 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 01 21:36 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 21:37 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Oct 01 21:42 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 21:57 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, A flood of downvotes and a couple of comments deriding me. | Oct 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Now Matthew Garrett is retweeting Donald Trump. | Oct 01 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, MinceR https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/781183351507984384 | Oct 01 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Anyone have any idea what this is? That's a USB *socket* and there are no other connectors https://t.co/7t7s1ay2yi | Oct 01 23:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mjg59: Anyone have any idea what this is? That's a USB *socket* and there are no other connectors https://t.co/7t7s1ay2yi | Oct 01 23:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Matthew Garrett unable to figure out what a car charger is.... | Oct 01 23:48 |
| BACKUP | ||
| -->hl (~hl@unaffiliated/hl) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 00:00 | |
| -->trn (jhj@trnsz.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 00:00 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I edited it. | Sep 25 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Edit: Because the "Linux lacks drivers" myth won't die, let me say this again... | Sep 25 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | That's simply not true. That's Lenovo+Microsoft's party line. The fake RAID is for Windows so it doesn't load a driver with bad power management, because Windows doesn't have any other driver override support. If they unhide AHCI mode, Linux would install. Power policy on Linux is not dictated by some insane hack meant for Windows. Once Linux is running, Linux developers could fine tune the power policy independent of the storage controller | Sep 25 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | mode. The two are separate issues. Totally not related. Lenovo and Microsoft are lying. | Sep 25 00:03 |
| MinceR | https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14446188_1093302797457859_3964273510052939732_n.jpg?oh=4768fd8ab0830e5d3d86a33a93a731df&oe=5879939E | Sep 25 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Also, here's a screenshot of their moderator's comment on removing the forum link because if you don't document things, Lenovo tends to go back and delete them and then people say "Where's your proof?". | Sep 25 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://imgur.com/a/NAEm5 | Sep 25 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Sep 25 00:05 | |
| DaemonFC | We should carefully document all of Lenovo's behavior so there is record of what they do, the lies they tell, etc. | Sep 25 00:07 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 25 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab dinner | Sep 25 00:07 |
| MinceR | looks like they want to dig themselves as deep as they can | Sep 25 00:07 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 25 00:12 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 00:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @er_1612 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 00:38 | |
| -->pidgin_log (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 01:00 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 01:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @_Vision__ favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 25 01:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 25 01:18 | |
| <--XRevan86_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 25 01:24 | |
| <--trn has quit (Quit: quit) | Sep 25 01:33 | |
| -->liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 01:36 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 25 01:38 | |
| -->trn (jhj@trnsz.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 01:43 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 25 01:55 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 01:55 | |
| <--trn has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 25 01:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I posted Lenovo's customer service number and how to get directly to an agent in my Reddit threads so that they can get feedback from their valued customers. | Sep 25 01:57 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 25 01:58 |
| MinceR | i think they got all the feedback they cared for from their valued microsoft | Sep 25 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I hope they get flooded with calls. Wish I found the number the other day. | Sep 25 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | Customer service ffilibuster. | Sep 25 02:06 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 25 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | *filibuster | Sep 25 02:06 |
| MinceR | the market economy fails again, businesses don't give a shit about what their customers want | Sep 25 02:07 |
| -->trn (jhj@trnsz.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 02:08 | |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/m-p/3438016#M8440 | Sep 25 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | I posted Lenovo's customer service number and how to get directly to an agent in my Reddit threads so that they can get feedback from their valued customers. | Sep 25 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 25 02:10 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Customer Service 800-565-3344 | Sep 25 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Press 2 for all other models and then wait through the recording and press 1 for laptops. | Sep 25 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 25 02:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Re: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID... - Page 29 - Lenovo Community | Sep 25 02:10 | |
| DaemonFC | I know that a company that prides itself on excellent customer service would love the opportunity to gain the feedback and insight of the communities that they serve. | Sep 25 02:10 |
| cubexyz | so Lenovo actually fixed the BIOS? | Sep 25 02:29 |
| MinceR | lenovo saying "Solved" doesn't mean jack shit | Sep 25 02:30 |
| MinceR | >In order that others are able to find this statement easier, when searching, I am marking this post as the solution | Sep 25 02:30 |
| MinceR | the statement is worthless | Sep 25 02:30 |
| cubexyz | so no then | Sep 25 02:31 |
| cubexyz | I'm not seeing a fix | Sep 25 02:32 |
| cubexyz | did they mean the hardware hack is the solution? | Sep 25 02:42 |
| cubexyz | I don't understand what the solution was/is | Sep 25 02:42 |
| MinceR | one solution is to hack the firmware so it lets you select AHCI in the setup | Sep 25 02:44 |
| MinceR | another solution is to hack the kernel so it forces AHCI mode on boot (apparently the uefi firmware won't reset the setting then) | Sep 25 02:44 |
| MinceR | yet another solution is to buy some other laptop | Sep 25 02:44 |
| MinceR | and yet another solution is to glass redmond, preferably when the oligarchs are there | Sep 25 02:45 |
| MinceR | or just let the human species exterminate itself finally | Sep 25 02:45 |
| cubexyz | and it appears the European versions of the problem Yoga latops don't have AHCI mode hidden in the BIOS | Sep 25 02:51 |
| cubexyz | and there's no reason to lock out AHCI say the experts, hmmmm | Sep 25 02:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Ricardoluna80S favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 02:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861866747047936 | Sep 25 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | digiKam 5.2.0 is published... https://t.co/TboQtDYCSz | Sep 25 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 02:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | digiKam 5.2.0 is published... | Tux Machines | Sep 25 02:55 | |
| cubexyz | if there's a kernel hack/patch for this I haven't seen it anywhere | Sep 25 02:56 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC mentioned getting garrett to write one | Sep 25 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | He said he'd look into it. I haven't heard anything more. | Sep 25 02:57 |
| cubexyz | the BIOS locking out AHCI only in North American markets stinks | Sep 25 03:00 |
| cubexyz | at least for us in North America | Sep 25 03:01 |
| MinceR | oh, i guess yet another solution would be adapting the existing driver in Linux to also recognize the mangled device id | Sep 25 03:02 |
| cubexyz | could you hang a USB hard drive on it and boot from that? I guess not? | Sep 25 03:03 |
| MinceR | almost certainly | Sep 25 03:04 |
| MinceR | unless uefi gets in the way, of course | Sep 25 03:04 |
| cubexyz | it sounds like it was pretty well locked down in various ways | Sep 25 03:04 |
| MinceR | (which is, admittedly, all uefi exists to do) | Sep 25 03:04 |
| cubexyz | remember that guy Joachim Kempin was "hitting the OEMs harder than in the past with anti-linux... they should do a delicate dance" | Sep 25 03:05 |
| cubexyz | but the fact that the EURO version works and the NA one doesn't means that M$ has more control closer to home | Sep 25 03:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861867850104832 | Sep 25 03:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 MATE - Fairly solid | Sep 25 03:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7N88KGViX2 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 03:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 MATE - Fairly solid | Tux Machines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861868911276032 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/yxjvmYssj2 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861870014451712 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Leftovers https://t.co/tvg0rjJfHF | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861871016894465 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google may unveil merged Android and Chrome OS, dubbed | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda, at event https://t.co/gTzxrUuP88 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google may unveil merged Android and Chrome OS, dubbed Andromeda, at event | Tux Machines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| cubexyz | but it's probably better to avoid the whole thing... I was going to suggest using flashing the Yoga with the Euro version of the BIOS but who knows if that would work | Sep 25 03:10 |
| cubexyz | the unsocketed BIOS chip makes experiments of that nature very risky | Sep 25 03:10 |
| <--wgas has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 03:10 | |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, THat report turned out to be wrong. | Sep 25 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | Users in several European countries said theirs has the missing AHCI too. | Sep 25 03:13 |
| cubexyz | ok, good to know | Sep 25 03:13 |
| cubexyz | I'd still like to know if the boot from USB is possible though | Sep 25 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it is. | Sep 25 03:54 |
| <--slbtc has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 25 04:03 | |
| -->slbtc (~slbtc@2602:302:d113:8ce0::18) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 04:09 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 04:10 | |
| MinceR | systemd's a cancer / it's a forced companion / you can feel it everywhere | Sep 25 04:28 |
| <--liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 25 04:42 | |
| -->liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 04:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HTwood96 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 04:48 | |
| -->daemol (~daemol@117.196.165.173) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 05:05 | |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, I'll probably end up using my Best Buy rewards points to get the fastest USB 3 flash drive they sell and run Linux that. | Sep 25 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | I have three USB ports, but one of them is also where the power adapter plugs in. | Sep 25 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | So if you use it as USB, you can't charge the laptop at the same time. | Sep 25 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | I also have an SD card slot. | Sep 25 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | Which is faster? | Sep 25 05:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @moriartym3 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 05:12 | |
| cubexyz | I think SSD would be faster than even a USB 3.0 hard drive | Sep 25 05:13 |
| cubexyz | especially for small read/writes | Sep 25 05:14 |
| cubexyz | no moving parts in the SSD, so virtually no seek time | Sep 25 05:14 |
| <--daemol has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 25 05:15 | |
| cubexyz | USB vs microSD hmmm | Sep 25 05:17 |
| cubexyz | the microSD card should still be faster | Sep 25 05:18 |
| cubexyz | might not be a big difference though | Sep 25 05:18 |
| cubexyz | a fast class 10 SD card might be the way to go | Sep 25 05:20 |
| MinceR | not UHS-I? :> | Sep 25 05:20 |
| MinceR | though i guess it also depends on what the host supports | Sep 25 05:20 |
| cubexyz | does the Yoga have that? :) | Sep 25 05:21 |
| MinceR | dunno | Sep 25 05:21 |
| cubexyz | it's got a 4-in-1 card reader: SD, MMC, SDXC, SDHC | Sep 25 05:23 |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 25 05:26 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-091-096-173-005.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 05:28 | |
| cubexyz | I think class 10 would imply UHS-1 | Sep 25 05:29 |
| cubexyz | e.g. 256 gb SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 90 mb/s reads, 45 mb/s writes | Sep 25 05:31 |
| cubexyz | unless the BIOS mucks it up, hohoho | Sep 25 05:32 |
| ---cmdshftn_ is now known as cmdshftn | Sep 25 05:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ashucg97 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 05:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/gnome_asia/status/779904216345088001 | Sep 25 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester | Sep 25 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @gnome_asia #uk with #gnomelove cake and drinks | Sep 25 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8BqcmQUFds | Sep 25 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 05:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with #gnomelove cake and drinks https://t.co/8BqcmQUFds | Sep 25 05:57 | |
| DaemonFC | About the only good thing about the Signature Edition PCs is that they don't come with the useless trial software. | Sep 25 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently it's getting so bad that there are up to 32 pieces of it on the average new PC. | Sep 25 06:05 |
| <--liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 25 06:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | [00:05] <DaemonFC> http://imgur.com/a/NAEm5 | Sep 25 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Sep 25 06:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | Good that you captured it | Sep 25 06:19 |
| r_schestowitz | can also print as PDF some pages | Sep 25 06:19 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @starryg16 favourited '#GNOME Release Party #Manchester https://t.co/9k6AB6wq2j #gnomeparty #gnomelove...' | Sep 25 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Release Party Manchester | Tux Machines | Sep 25 06:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Hamid_446/status/779583986804948992 | Sep 25 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Hamid_446: @tuxmachines why only 4 toes in gnome? | Sep 25 06:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RootUsers_/status/774433774662660096 | Sep 25 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RootUsers_: @tuxmachines XZ is my favourite! Better compression than gzip -9 with xz -1 and usually faster. | Sep 25 06:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines why only 4 toes in gnome?' | Sep 25 06:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines XZ is my favourite! Better compression than...' | Sep 25 06:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Why is the starter kit so expensive? https://t.co/wJdBV0OaLT' | Sep 25 06:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: The @Raspberry_Pi Has Sold Over 10 Million Units, Celebrates with New Starter Kit https://t.co/hCc66b37iS | Sep 25 06:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.omgubuntu.co.uk | The Raspberry Pi Has Sold Over 10 Million Units, Celebrates with New Starter Kit - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 25 06:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Cc @zagerduerin https://t.co/yQ1JxP0GAW' | Sep 25 06:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: today's howtos https://t.co/22O7EXiovc | Sep 25 06:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 25 06:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'This is stupid, there is a setting in...' | Sep 25 06:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @opensourceway 7 years. I'm living in DRC.' | Sep 25 06:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines all while Ubuntu becomes more corporate and...' | Sep 25 06:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @fossbytes14 Every word and idea were STOLEN...' | Sep 25 06:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines any info about Debian ?' | Sep 25 06:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines We're working on a music player for...' | Sep 25 06:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Presentation-ing within a Linux Terminal @tuxmachines @NetworkWorld @BryanLunduke...' | Sep 25 06:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines the worst software center ever made.' | Sep 25 06:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: got this: | Sep 25 06:45 |
| r_schestowitz | Re: Libreboot Report. | Sep 25 06:45 |
| r_schestowitz | > Leah seems to be taking a lot of insults from trolls and is bothering to read | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > them. See, | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > https://libreboot.org/gnu-insult/ | Sep 25 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://libreboot.org/gnu-insult/ ) | Sep 25 06:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > and | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreboot/2016-09/msg00089.html | Sep 25 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | [Libreboot] Fwd: Re: Future of Libreboot | Sep 25 06:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > I've suggested she find someone to filter that kind of crap out for her. | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > At this point, I can't tell what GNU has really said. I'll have to see an | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | > official statement and don't want to speculate. | Sep 25 06:46 |
| r_schestowitz | I read some article about it yesterday and I can see how the whole thing is backfiring. There was an unnecessary mess there and it's a shame it was taken public like thus (poor handling). | Sep 25 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv2ZMN3T18E | Sep 25 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Sep 25 06:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Park - Safe Space - "Reality Crashes The Party" - YouTube | Sep 25 06:58 | |
| DaemonFC | I see that Easylist has decided to block those annoying Wikipedia fundraising messages. | Sep 25 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | About time. I had to use a custom filter for those. | Sep 25 07:07 |
| -->liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 07:37 | |
| brendyn | Is it a good idea to block donation requests by defualt? | Sep 25 08:04 |
| brendyn | Re Libreboot & GNU: Looks like Leah might be a bit crazy in this case? (obviously I have no issues with being transgender) | Sep 25 08:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @schestowitz What to expect ? Both got...' | Sep 25 08:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bsdfortune http://twitter.com/bsdfortune/status/779936917672620032 | Sep 25 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest BSD fortune BSD digest! | Sep 25 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7VD6vkAsUO (paper.li) Thanks to @dravirmani | Sep 25 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @karinjiri | Sep 25 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 08:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | BSD fortune BSD digest | Sep 25 08:08 | |
| -->Cookie` (~cookie@4.86.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 08:16 | |
| <--Cookie` has quit (Changing host) | Sep 25 08:16 | |
| -->Cookie` (~cookie@hpavc/Cookie) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 08:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ari_akm retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 08:37 | |
| -->MarkBilk_ (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 08:46 | |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 25 08:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | brendyn: yes, irrational | Sep 25 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | I know more, but was asked not to talk about it publicly | Sep 25 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | libreboot might boot leah | Sep 25 09:14 |
| -->antilope (53a2b42f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.162.180.47) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 09:23 | |
| antilope | hello Roy | Sep 25 09:23 |
| r_schestowitz | hi | Sep 25 09:23 |
| r_schestowitz | how are you? | Sep 25 09:23 |
| antilope | last friday BB put 3 reports on our intranet, big big reports i tell you you should get copies | Sep 25 09:23 |
| antilope | i am fine | Sep 25 09:24 |
| antilope | money money money that what it is all b=about | Sep 25 09:24 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, i wrote about it last night | Sep 25 09:24 |
| r_schestowitz | about the reports | Sep 25 09:24 |
| r_schestowitz | but nobody sent me the full docs | Sep 25 09:24 |
| antilope | I am sure in short time suepo will comment on these reports, writteen by Deloitte who now suddenly are experts on patent issues | Sep 25 09:25 |
| antilope | we need a mail box for that | Sep 25 09:25 |
| antilope | for a print version | Sep 25 09:25 |
| antilope | you will be astonished | Sep 25 09:25 |
| r_schestowitz | antilope: it won't even mean money for the Office | Sep 25 09:27 |
| r_schestowitz | he's squeezing for the golden egg | Sep 25 09:28 |
| antilope | yes | Sep 25 09:28 |
| r_schestowitz | killing the goose (reputation of EPO) | Sep 25 09:28 |
| antilope | renewal fees for the office will sink dramatically (in the report called NRF) | Sep 25 09:28 |
| r_schestowitz | how can I get a copy of the docs? | Sep 25 09:28 |
| r_schestowitz | I can annotate these | Sep 25 09:28 |
| r_schestowitz | or if something passes them with added remarks | Sep 25 09:28 |
| antilope | but, theoratically, the office will collect 50 % of the state renewal fees (whhich can be zero) | Sep 25 09:28 |
| antilope | you got an e mail? | Sep 25 09:29 |
| antilope | within 3 years we are at the EPO in deep trouble as examiners | Sep 25 09:30 |
| r_schestowitz | no backlog | Sep 25 09:30 |
| r_schestowitz | just rubberstamping, I hear... | Sep 25 09:30 |
| antilope | correct | Sep 25 09:30 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, I have email | Sep 25 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | s at schestowitz dot com | Sep 25 09:31 |
| antilope | it is a bit exagerated but it is correct | Sep 25 09:31 |
| antilope | okay understood | Sep 25 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, exaggerated for sure | Sep 25 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | but SUEPO has a euphoric vision | Sep 25 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | of French system being imitated | Sep 25 09:31 |
| antilope | I will see if I an get you copies | Sep 25 09:32 |
| antilope | it is very interesting stuff you know | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | Some workers made copies | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | I can publish raw first | Sep 25 09:32 |
| antilope | of course, it is public | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | need to ensure no metadata hidden in there first | Sep 25 09:32 |
| antilope | but it is not on the EPO website | Sep 25 09:32 |
| antilope | exactly | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | intranet | Sep 25 09:32 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 25 09:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | I know | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | antilope: do we know what time it was published? | Sep 25 09:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Any timestamp on it? | Sep 25 09:33 |
| antilope | i do not know of course | Sep 25 09:33 |
| r_schestowitz | I want to know if after 5pm | Sep 25 09:33 |
| r_schestowitz | CET | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | OK, I just hope someone will 'leak' it to us | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | before the 'press' (IAM, MIP) 'reports' on it | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | we can post a rebuttal to it | Sep 25 09:34 |
| antilope | I never leak, but as I guess this is public info it will have an AC number | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | I have a lot of today with free time available and took Tuesday off wor | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | *work | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | if you can find a link to it, that might help too | Sep 25 09:35 |
| antilope | yes | Sep 25 09:35 |
| r_schestowitz | but AFAIK, there's no such link yet | Sep 25 09:35 |
| r_schestowitz | we need to undermine the puff pieces before they start coming | Sep 25 09:35 |
| antilope | you better be fast | Sep 25 09:35 |
| r_schestowitz | and then link to this, to highlight the issues to so-called journalists like Joff | Sep 25 09:35 |
| antilope | in the reports it is one big hurraaa story | Sep 25 09:36 |
| r_schestowitz | well, it might start Monday on IAM | Sep 25 09:36 |
| r_schestowitz | and 'part 2' of the Nurton 'interview' with Batti at MIP | Sep 25 09:36 |
| antilope | i gotta go speak later srry | Sep 25 09:36 |
| r_schestowitz | Which he said would cover "social" issues | Sep 25 09:36 |
| <--antilope has quit (Quit: Page closed) | Sep 25 09:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | they work on cooperation with EPO on this | Sep 25 09:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779963711616417792 | Sep 25 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A short critique of Stallmanism https://t.co/qjnnDIAhFp | Sep 25 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (jancorazza.com) | Sep 25 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 09:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jancorazza.com | A short critique of Stallmanism | Sep 25 09:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/779960594464116738 | Sep 25 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @wikileaks @schestowitz You are falling for a speech writer. He suggests Hillary would be more a 'war president' than Trump is. *eyeroll* | Sep 25 09:49 | |
| r_schestowitz | I agree with you... | Sep 25 09:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @BinaryBoss192 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779970589918461952 | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi Mi Box seen at Walmart shelf for $69 | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bMKM2tpdZv (www.androidauthority.com) | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Xiaomi Mi Box seen at Walmart shelf for $69 - Android Authority | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779971258876325888 | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bodhi 2.2.2 released https://t.co/pXBeWQ31Wc (github.com) | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Release Bodhi 2.2.2 released · fedora-infra/bodhi · GitHub | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779971838214561792 | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Ambassadors: Measuring Success | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KBxnaIKDSV (hub.cprofitt.com) | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hub.cprofitt.com | Charles Profitt — Fedora Ambassadors: Measuring Success | Sep 25 10:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779972476122099712 | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sony Xperia XZ pre-orders go live, available on October 2 | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z5FjEmKMuw (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Sony Xperia XZ pre-orders go live, available on October 2 | Sep 25 10:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @slaf66 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779975131099639808 | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google may unveil merged Android and Chrome OS, dubbed | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda, at event https://t.co/RzrcXzdjDk | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.digitaltrends.com) | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | NO TITLE | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779976053422825472 | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A short critique of Stallmanism https://t.co/Yluhhc1do9 | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A short critique of Stallmanism | Tux Machines | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 10:33 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 25 10:33 |
| r_schestowitz | 0/ | Sep 25 10:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | r_schestowitz, hi | Sep 25 10:35 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | raziel_tzu, ping | Sep 25 10:35 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pjrplan/status/779985312097374208 | Sep 25 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pjrplan: @biancawylie @opennorth @geothinkca @ODIHQ #opendata in support of resilient cities. What else can we do? https://t.co/hywj730TQf | Sep 25 11:06 | |
| <--liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 25 11:09 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 11:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/547qo5/whats_your_favorite_example_of_something_that/ | Sep 25 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What's your favorite example of something that "just works" under Linux? : linux | Sep 25 11:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53xvk9/bbc_reports_on_the_lenovo_linux_issue/ | Sep 25 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | BBC reports on the Lenovo Linux issue : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pslvz ] | Sep 25 11:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | “The BBC’s R&D department is 75% linux based, 15% Solaris based and 10% Windows/Mac” | Sep 25 11:20 |
| r_schestowitz | “Microsoft is to blame for lacking essential systems configuration options like manually overriding driver choice” https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/545faj/blame_intel_not_microsoft/ | Sep 25 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Blame intel not Microsoft! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pslwg ] | Sep 25 11:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/542liq/uptime_funk_uptown_funk_parody_by_suse_linux/ | Sep 25 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody by Suse Linux) : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pslxg ] | Sep 25 11:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRlTISvjww | Sep 25 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pslxh ] | Sep 25 11:28 | |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@93.175.9.239) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 11:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779976054999965697 | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/WDxrXFX7FA | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 11:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779987727030837248 | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My Mom Runs Linux! https://t.co/hSblEmgk2y | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (freedompenguin.com) | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | My Mom Runs Linux! - Freedom Penguin | Sep 25 11:39 | |
| -->XRevan86_ (~XRevan86@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 11:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/540nv9/whats_really_going_on_with_microsoft_lenovo_and/ | Sep 25 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | "What's really going on with Microsoft, Lenovo and Linux": corporate reps continue to talk as though Linux is a vendor, or at least a product : linux | Sep 25 11:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | I like the modified headline | Sep 25 11:41 |
| r_schestowitz | but they're still lying | Sep 25 11:41 |
| r_schestowitz | as in Germany there was none of the same issues | Sep 25 11:42 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/779989072693436418 | Sep 25 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: I put years of work into destroying M$ in their place @schestowitz | Sep 25 11:46 | |
| cubexyz | ok, this should be interesting... | Sep 25 11:51 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53v6u4/anybody_running_linux_on_a_dell_xps_13/ | Sep 25 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Anybody running Linux on a Dell XPS 13? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm07 ] | Sep 25 11:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: what, the above? | Sep 25 11:51 |
| r_schestowitz | or Lenovo stuff? | Sep 25 11:51 |
| cubexyz | no....can the lowly P4 handle 720p video :) | Sep 25 11:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I am catching with how Reddit had it covered | Sep 25 11:51 |
| cubexyz | I suspect not :) | Sep 25 11:51 |
| cubexyz | the Lenovo Yoga... the newer one, I'd just avoid it completely | Sep 25 11:52 |
| cubexyz | BIOS is still a big problem in general | Sep 25 11:53 |
| cubexyz | it goes back to the chips without datasheets... | Sep 25 11:53 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53rtyr/software_fredom_day_2016_how_did_you_celebrate/ | Sep 25 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Software Fredom Day 2016: How did you celebrate? What will you do next year? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm0t ] | Sep 25 11:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: is there a simple/mainstream way around it | Sep 25 11:57 |
| r_schestowitz | like laptops that come with coreboot or without the blobs, libreboot? | Sep 25 11:57 |
| r_schestowitz | I know about ones that are sold online | Sep 25 11:57 |
| r_schestowitz | and i think some chromebooks adopt coreboot | Sep 25 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779993657495674880 | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What’s New in Wayland and Weston 1.12? | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7QzoXlnWLr (blogs.s-osg.org) | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.s-osg.org/whats-new-wayland-weston-1-12/ ) | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779995936663691264 | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ElementaryOS Loki Release Follow Up | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ACtBAbFQ9k (blog.elementary.io) 45,000 | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | downloads in just days | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.elementary.io | elementary blog — Loki Release Follow Up | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779998885540487168 | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The problems with backporting are numerous." | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Wuo3Cy0HUP (lwn.net) | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Backports and long-term stable kernels [LWN.net] | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| cubexyz | there's really no substitute to studying the hardware closely | Sep 25 12:02 |
| cubexyz | chromebooks/boxes with crouton looks very promising though | Sep 25 12:03 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53sppb/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/ | Sep 25 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Warning: Microsoft Signature PC program now requires that you can't run Linux. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm1m ] | Sep 25 12:03 | |
| cubexyz | I've found that most hardware up to 2004 worked well, and AMI did do testing on Linux up to 2004 | Sep 25 12:04 |
| cubexyz | but repairability of chromebooks isn't the greatest | Sep 25 12:05 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54c1bd/ftpgnuorg_down/ | Sep 25 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | ftp.gnu.org down! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm1w ] | Sep 25 12:05 | |
| cubexyz | there's still things about Tyan slot 1 boards I'm learning about... and that's 18 years old now | Sep 25 12:06 |
| cubexyz | I never did completely learn Consumer IR | Sep 25 12:08 |
| cubexyz | there's three different IR standards | Sep 25 12:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @JewPlease favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 25 12:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 25 12:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780001029324701696 | Sep 25 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Swear words in Linux kernel source code | Sep 25 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xkUWZBMxNt (www.vidarholen.net) | Sep 25 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vidarholen.net | Linux kernel word count | Sep 25 12:10 | |
| cubexyz | I'd say I have a pretty good understanding of the BIOS up to the late 1990s | Sep 25 12:15 |
| cubexyz | coreboot does the minimum to get things going | Sep 25 12:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Glatorcom favourited 'Swear words in Linux kernel source code https://t.co/xkUWZBMxNt' | Sep 25 12:17 | |
| cubexyz | AMI BIOS handled more permutations | Sep 25 12:17 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 12:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003268881739776 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CYT8BE2MUs (www.linuxforum.com) | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003346404913153 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxforum.com | Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc | Linux Forum | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | FreeBSD 11.0 Final Release ISO Images Available For | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download https://t.co/J1ZtuwMb6M (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.0 Final Release ISO Images Available For Download | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003348153978880 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My Mom Runs Linux! https://t.co/5faeZ3Ysg9 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Mom Runs Linux! | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003349311594496 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet of Things https://t.co/Kiv3yhj9Rn | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| cubexyz | CW Linux offers coreboot motherboards but they sell CPU modules, not ATX stuff | Sep 25 12:21 |
| cubexyz | https://www.coreboot.org/Products | Sep 25 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'www.coreboot.org' ( status 0 @ https://www.coreboot.org/Products ) | Sep 25 12:22 | |
| cubexyz | linutop is the other computer that comes to mind that you can actually order | Sep 25 12:22 |
| cubexyz | 189 Euros... | Sep 25 12:23 |
| cubexyz | outside of chromebooks and the like, coreboot is still on the fringe I'm sorry to say | Sep 25 12:25 |
| r_schestowitz | wow, linutop | Sep 25 12:26 |
| r_schestowitz | haven't heard of them for years | Sep 25 12:26 |
| cubexyz | I'm not too sure they really ship with coreboot :-/ | Sep 25 12:26 |
| cubexyz | there's barely any code in /src/mainboard/linutop | Sep 25 12:27 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53yr82/why_is_there_no_ads_for_linux/ | Sep 25 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why is there no ads for Linux? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm4i ] | Sep 25 12:27 | |
| r_schestowitz | yuck | Sep 25 12:27 |
| cubexyz | but at least it works with Linux and that's well tested, no funny stuff | Sep 25 12:28 |
| cubexyz | gluglug used to sell thinkpads with libreboot | Sep 25 12:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53i097/a_warning_just_briefly_interrupted_my_tv/ | Sep 25 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | A warning just briefly interrupted my TV broadcast, and it displayed a kernel panic with a mention of Fedora before displaying the actual warning : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm4p ] | Sep 25 12:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: https://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=05.Projects&proj=07.%20Linux%20on%208bit | Sep 25 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dmitry.gr | Linux on an 8-bit micro? - Dmitry Grinberg [ http://ur1.ca/psm51 ] | Sep 25 12:30 | |
| r_schestowitz | your kind of turf | Sep 25 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @KobbyDon1 http://twitter.com/KobbyDon1/status/780003351542976513 | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KobbyDon : @tuxmachines-Kaspersky Lab Announces Security | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yYc1PFs9jR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ixp10 http://twitter.com/ixp10/status/780003586042241024 | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KobbyDon : @tuxmachines-Kaspersky Lab Announces Security | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9seMCWYIhI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ThingsVentures retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet...' | Sep 25 12:37 | |
| cubexyz | 2 hours to boot to a bash prompt? no no no | Sep 25 12:40 |
| cubexyz | I would never do that | Sep 25 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780008269792284672 | Sep 25 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Can Justin Trudeau Fix Canada’s Broken Government IT | Sep 25 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | System? https://t.co/4nLljbsf4J (opensourcewriter.com) | Sep 25 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcewriter.com | Can Justin Trudeau Fix Canada’s Broken Government IT System? – Open Source Writer | Sep 25 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780008661540278272 | Sep 25 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based | Sep 25 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet of Things https://t.co/ku9MWGzc6n | Sep 25 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 25 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things - Tizen Experts | Sep 25 12:44 | |
| cubexyz | on the PDP-11/10 it didn't have a BIOS or even boot roms | Sep 25 12:48 |
| cubexyz | you had to toggle in the bootstrap loader using the front panel :) | Sep 25 12:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @offfieldsocial favourited 'Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet...' | Sep 25 12:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ThingsVentures retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet...' | Sep 25 12:54 | |
| cubexyz | running Unix on a PDP-11 or even a 68000 ok... but not 8-bit | Sep 25 13:00 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ehby/my_router_listens_on_port_22_without_being_set_to/ | Sep 25 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | My router listens on port 22 without being set to do it : linux | Sep 25 13:02 | |
| cubexyz | same issue at the core.... closed firmware | Sep 25 13:09 |
| cubexyz | I bet they are running stock firmware | Sep 25 13:09 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53o3te/can_i_get_6_monitors_working_on_ubuntu_now/ | Sep 25 13:11 |
| r_schestowitz | I use 4 | Sep 25 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Can I get >6 monitors working on Ubuntu now? : linux | Sep 25 13:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | but separate machines | Sep 25 13:11 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/542wh0/how_do_foss_companies_exist_without_someone_just/ | Sep 25 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | How do FOSS companies exist without someone just taking the source code and starting their own company? : linux | Sep 25 13:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | ":Wait, so you're telling me that FOSS can promote the creation of new companies (create competition also) and in turn create more jobs? ...nah, Linux and the rest of FOSS is communist /s" | Sep 25 13:17 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @allenpg favourited 'Can Justin Trudeau Fix Canada’s Broken Government IT...' | Sep 25 13:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780013096622579713 | Sep 25 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MakuluLinux LinDoz 12 Beta is Ready ! | Sep 25 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uxZN0mZypZ (www.youtube.com) | Sep 25 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 13:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MakuluLinux LinDoz 12 Beta is Ready ! - YouTube | Sep 25 13:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/780020336809172992 | Sep 25 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: I've made it through 17 years of desktop GNU/Linux @schestowitz Only had to use winduhs in someone elses office. | Sep 25 13:30 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bob_moss/status/780020969888940032 | Sep 25 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: And yet those who lead a truly aesthetic Linux-only life are still in the minority. Work still to do - Microsoft &… https://t.co/ypiTyqHTKZ | Sep 25 13:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: And yet those who lead a truly aesthetic Linux-only life are still in the minority. Work still to do - Microsoft &… https://t.co/ypiTyqHTKZ | Sep 25 13:30 | |
| ---XRevan86_ is now known as XRevan86 | Sep 25 13:40 | |
| <--slbtc has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 25 13:54 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 25 13:54 | |
| -->slbtc (~slbtc@2602:302:d113:8ce0::18) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 13:58 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 14:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780019084822011906 | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/P6nnch4Wv9 (medium.com) | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer – Medium | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031329245114369 | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5AifYSz5nZ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031330385993728 | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Italian Military's LibreOffice Migration Underway; | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 100,000+ PCs To Be Migrated https://t.co/SjfqFfUiY0 | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Italian Military's LibreOffice Migration Underway; 100,000+ PCs To Be Migrated | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| MinceR | 25 062917 < cubexyz> I think class 10 would imply UHS-1 | Sep 25 14:16 |
| MinceR | no, the other way around :> | Sep 25 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031331807801344 | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/OuvBRrm6gf | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031333095526400 | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Releases https://t.co/3t0CvMTBy2 | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Project Releases | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031334102159360 | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU News https://t.co/OkfvmxXstJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU News | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 14:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Zor08 favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 25 14:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 25 14:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780036314964066304 | Sep 25 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 25/9/2016: Linux 4.7.5, 4.4.22; LXQt 0.11 | Sep 25 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hEtiSYlyAo (techrights.org) | Sep 25 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 25/9/2016: Linux 4.7.5, 4.4.22; LXQt 0.11 | Techrights | Sep 25 14:35 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.net/2016/09/19/9-work-cartoons-that-are-here-to-save-you-from-doing-any-work-today/ | Sep 25 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.net | 9 Work Cartoons That Are Here to Save You From Doing Any Work Today – Pleated-Jeans.com | Sep 25 15:10 | |
| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54agii/richard_stallman_and_gnu_refused_to_let_libreboot/d80gckp | Sep 25 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | postmodest comments on Richard Stallman and GNU refused to let libreboot go, despite stating its intention to leave -Leah Rowe | Sep 25 15:12 | |
| MinceR | https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8977829888/hA778F77F/ | Sep 25 15:26 |
| MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1737/ | Sep 25 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Datacenter Scale | Sep 25 15:52 | |
| cubexyz | ok, 1280x720 video on the p4 was a dismal failure :) | Sep 25 16:15 |
| cubexyz | I figure downsizing to 640x360 should work | Sep 25 16:16 |
| cubexyz | doubleplusunfun | Sep 25 16:24 |
| raziel_tzu | xD | Sep 25 16:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 25/9/2016: Linux 4.7.5, 4.4.22; LXQt 0.11 https://t.co/hEtiSYlyAo' | Sep 25 16:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 25 16:34 | |
| ---raziel_tzu is now known as razielle_tzu | Sep 25 17:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089288327168000 | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/MKXuEEa4E4 | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Sep 25 17:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089289426083840 | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/8zofjUEMBd | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 25 17:59 | |
| <--acer-box____ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 18:05 | |
| <--Tervy has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 25 18:05 | |
| -->Tervy (Tervy@laamaperhe.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 18:05 | |
| -->acer-box____ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 18:05 | |
| MinceR | https://67.media.tumblr.com/fbaa675db8155f4396db75369ec67676/tumblr_o94k3567FP1soccv6o1_400.gif | Sep 25 18:29 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/SonyKapoor/status/779980472126439424 | Sep 25 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SonyKapoor: #Genius… #TrumpSandwich … https://t.co/ntiA5AS2iB | Sep 25 18:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SonyKapoor: #Genius… #TrumpSandwich … https://t.co/ntiA5AS2iB | Sep 25 18:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: seen the Trump one earlier | Sep 25 19:36 |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 25 20:19 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 20:22:29 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 20:23:32 2016 | ||
| -->You are now talking on #techrights | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights is TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| razielle_tzu | o/ | Sep 25 20:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, o/ | Sep 25 20:23 |
| razielle_tzu | SebthreeBQM10HD: how are you? | Sep 25 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ok you | Sep 25 20:24 |
| razielle_tzu | pretty good | Sep 25 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | was a good day yesterday | Sep 25 20:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | today not really | Sep 25 20:25 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7887581 | Sep 25 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: My Mom Runs Linux! https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/mom-runs-linux/ | Sep 25 20:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freedompenguin.com | My Mom Runs Linux! - Freedom Penguin [ http://ur1.ca/psmtz ] | Sep 25 20:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Mine too!" | Sep 25 20:28 |
| r_schestowitz | Many use Android too | Sep 25 20:28 |
| razielle_tzu | why is today not so great SebthreeBQM10HD? | Sep 25 20:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah I saw that a littel while ago | Sep 25 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | mine uses LINUX TO FOR ABOUT TWO years | Sep 25 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | didnt want caps | Sep 25 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, another boring usual kind of weekend day at home | Sep 25 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yesterday went to the LUG in the city and yeah | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089290604679169 | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IBM Claims “New Linux Based Power System Server Kicks | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Butt https://t.co/juJjJTKGgg (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 20:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM Claims “New Linux Based Power System Server Kicks Butt | Tux Machines | Sep 25 20:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089291594620928 | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Backports and Graphics https://t.co/IECP12J34m | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 20:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Backports and Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 25 20:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089292680855552 | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/IL9EktZbaZ | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 20:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 20:30 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, met some FRench guy nearly same age, who wil help out with the event all day | Sep 25 20:30 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Sep 25 20:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, could tell from emails before meeting, that we would get on and yep | Sep 25 20:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | went to eat at the venue afer woulds to | Sep 25 20:30 |
| razielle_tzu | :) | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | was going to do that anyway, but yes it's beter to go with someone. eat out too much on my own at places realy hmm | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | mostly | Sep 25 20:31 |
| razielle_tzu | http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-new-advocacy-group-is-lobbying-for-the-right-to-repair-everything?utm_source=mbfb < my partner just found this | Sep 25 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | A New Advocacy Group Is Lobbying for the Right to Repair Everything | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pso1y ] | Sep 25 20:31 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, got the old guy going on at me about contactging the council | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, for a focal point | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | someone to get it out more | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or hopefully | Sep 25 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well once got proper flyers! | Sep 25 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yeah ok i'll do that as well then, just under four weeks to go | Sep 25 20:32 |
| razielle_tzu | :) | Sep 25 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, if it were to get ovver crowdded as in more than 65 of us | Sep 25 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that would be something actually | Sep 25 20:33 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 25 20:33 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | indeed | Sep 25 20:33 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and going to put 30 pounds into facebook markettin as wel | Sep 25 20:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since tha's not really geting people so far etc so | Sep 25 20:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, got a Tizne phone ocming or hopefully | Sep 25 20:42 |
| razielle_tzu | good for you, i repaired a mobile over hte weekend and have my smaller phone working again | Sep 25 20:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, andgot a cheap aldi android phone from the other week, that still not had on etc properly | Sep 25 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, for a while had to figure out how to get the cae off first to since hmm | Sep 25 20:44 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 20:44 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I intend to show Tizen phone at the event as well :) | Sep 25 20:44 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Sep 25 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, you know peoples beloved Samsung, but running something else :d not Android | Sep 25 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and that is also Linux based though | Sep 25 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Tizen also like the Jollla phone has Android apps compatability | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, but can only really buy them from india directly for now | Sep 25 20:45 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ebay as well hmm | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | first time I have bought something on Ebay in fact | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | myself | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and known about it for years, but yeah it's for like peopl selling second hand stuff etc hmm | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, if the tracking isn't updated better on ebaby tommorw I am going to be a bit more hmm | Sep 25 20:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | says it's left some where in india though, but | Sep 25 20:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hmm | Sep 25 20:46 |
| MinceR | http://krautchan.net/files/1474808011004.webm | Sep 25 20:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whats | Sep 25 20:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | taht | Sep 25 20:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ? | Sep 25 20:57 |
| MinceR | cleaning snow from a car with music | Sep 25 20:57 |
| razielle_tzu | that hurt my ears | Sep 25 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780127174288367617 | Sep 25 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/aBGi36CtP1 | Sep 25 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 25 21:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/aBGi36CtP1' | Sep 25 21:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: good one.. | Sep 25 21:03 |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 21:05 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 21:05 | |
| -->blahblah (bcc3aaca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.195.170.202) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 21:08 | |
| <--blahblah has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 25 21:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/780136592988045316 | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/2tRUP1z7xQ | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 25 21:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780141998904864768 | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Twitter App ‘Corebird’ Now Supports Longer Tweets | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4G4PFOOBAx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Linux Twitter App 'Corebird' Now Supports Longer Tweets - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 25 21:28 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 25 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux | Sep 25 21:33 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm also looking into filing a consumer fraud lawsuit in small claims court. Lenovo probably isn't going to bother showing up over $1337.49. | Sep 25 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Now, after I get a judgment against them, I'll have to get it attached to something, butt I'm sure Lenovo has assets in Illinois. | Sep 25 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I read about a guy who sued Wells Fargo for fraudulent foreclosure practices, nobody showed up, he won, and they never paid him. He sent the Sheriff to confiscate their office furniture and sell it at a Sheriff's sale, and they paid him the money gathered from that, then they paid him for court costs and getting the Sheriff involved. | Sep 25 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Gah, more typos. | Sep 25 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hate this keyboard. | Sep 25 21:34 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Viper_Lizzie favourited 'Linux Twitter App ‘Corebird’ Now Supports Longer Tweets...' | Sep 25 21:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780142149543288832 | Sep 25 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GTK Radio Player ‘Gradio’ Gets New Beta Release, Gains | Sep 25 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Features https://t.co/6ut9Hj7N9K | Sep 25 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 25 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | GTK Radio Player 'Gradio' Gets New Beta Release, Gains New Features - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 25 21:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good stuff! | Sep 25 21:38 |
| r_schestowitz | I'll spread the wprd | Sep 25 21:38 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 21:39 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: got several retweets and comments now | Sep 25 21:44 |
| r_schestowitz | so I suppose it might get upvoted too, by some... | Sep 25 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I complained to the Illinois Attorney General's office too. | Sep 25 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Copy/Paste of FTC complaint. | Sep 25 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Considering small claims lawsuit against Lenovo in state court. | Sep 25 21:47 |
| r_schestowitz | good | Sep 25 21:48 |
| r_schestowitz | i did too about other things | Sep 25 21:48 |
| r_schestowitz | twice to FTC | Sep 25 21:48 |
| r_schestowitz | I got a reply | Sep 25 21:48 |
| r_schestowitz | but not a detailed letter, more like a template reply | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK [S] 0 points 16 minutes ago | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm also looking into filing a consumer fraud lawsuit in small claims court. Lenovo probably isn't going to bother showing up over $1337.49. | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now, after I get a judgment against them, I'll have to get it attached to something, but I'm sure Lenovo has assets in Illinois. | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I read about a guy who sued Wells Fargo for fraudulent foreclosure practices, nobody showed up, he won, and they never paid him. He sent the Sheriff to confiscate their office furniture and sell it at a Sheriff's sale, and they paid him the money gathered from that, then they paid him for court costs and getting the Sheriff involved. | Sep 25 21:49 |
| r_schestowitz | lenovo might be camping in reddit by now | Sep 25 21:51 |
| r_schestowitz | if they're business 'smart' | Sep 25 21:51 |
| r_schestowitz | after like 8 separate threads slamming them and urging to boycott a market worth billions per annum | Sep 25 21:51 |
| r_schestowitz | so don't be shocked if they watch and bury you there | Sep 25 21:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I'd at least expect it, you needn't be paranoid to expect it several days after this many threads | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | so, my suggestion | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | you cannot see who's modding but you see who's commenting | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | see their age of the accounts just in case | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | MS got caught astroturfing in reddit already | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | they hired an agency to game the comments for xbox (the example we know about), via an agency that provides such - ahem - 'services' | Sep 25 21:53 |
| r_schestowitz | So check the age of the accounts and recent activities | Sep 25 21:53 |
| r_schestowitz | at least for those who comment, just in case you can identify a pattern. That's how one can spot Shillaries in Twitter, among other Turfers | Sep 25 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Lenovo temporarily banned me from their forum for saying that they were being unethical by modifying my posts. | Sep 25 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | 77 hours (don't ask me why 77) | Sep 25 21:55 |
| r_schestowitz | ta | Sep 25 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, So far the only comment troll has a five year old account. | Sep 25 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | So that wasn't just created by Lenovo. | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780143620401795073 | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Katamari Creator’s ALPHABET Now Available for PC, Mac, | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Linux https://t.co/pEjiPvCEQb (nichegamer.com) | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nichegamer.com | Katamari Creator's ALPHABET Now Available for PC, Mac, and Linux - Niche Gamer | Sep 25 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780144540300828678 | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | blocking Linux and other operating system installations | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1XX6WtkL6f (www.reddit.com) | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux | Sep 25 21:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks, I've quoted you | Sep 25 21:56 |
| r_schestowitz | they will try to suppress you | Sep 25 21:56 |
| r_schestowitz | it's business 'sense' | Sep 25 21:56 |
| r_schestowitz | and we need to use numbers to country this gagging effort | Sep 25 21:57 |
| r_schestowitz | it can streisand (effect) on them | Sep 25 21:57 |
| r_schestowitz | wow, 45% upvote | Sep 25 21:57 |
| r_schestowitz | which means 20 people voter | Sep 25 21:57 |
| r_schestowitz | 11 downvotes in just less than an hour | Sep 25 21:57 |
| r_schestowitz | on a sunday night (CET) | Sep 25 21:57 |
| r_schestowitz | try to find out what's behind it | Sep 25 21:58 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/user/Bogdacutu | Sep 25 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | overview for Bogdacutu | Sep 25 21:58 | |
| r_schestowitz | Lots of activity from him/her on Lenovo threads | Sep 25 21:58 |
| r_schestowitz | but maybe just an interested person, probably benign | Sep 25 21:59 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: you can see what I write about this in #boycottnovell-social | Sep 25 22:00 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 25 22:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: got some upbotes | Sep 25 22:01 |
| r_schestowitz | *upvotes | Sep 25 22:01 |
| r_schestowitz | It's interesting how fast it got buried | Sep 25 22:02 |
| r_schestowitz | In the Digg days the "bury squads" were proven | Sep 25 22:02 |
| r_schestowitz | with evidence | Sep 25 22:02 |
| r_schestowitz | those who suppress stories strategically, not just promote stories | Sep 25 22:02 |
| r_schestowitz | OK, up to +1 | Sep 25 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Probably operating on Reddit too, but at least they can't actually delete or modify my posts here and then ban me. | Sep 25 22:02 |
| r_schestowitz | 54% posiitive | Sep 25 22:02 |
| r_schestowitz | Let me just keep it open in a tab and keep track of it, looks suspicious too me | Sep 25 22:03 |
| r_schestowitz | far too much voting for a Sunday night on Reddit | Sep 25 22:03 |
| r_schestowitz | it's like the deadest time of the week | Sep 25 22:03 |
| r_schestowitz | worst is around 5am monday | Sep 25 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | 2 points | Sep 25 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_log, It's only 4 PM Monday in Illinois. | Sep 25 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | errr r_schestowitz | Sep 25 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | tab complete fail | Sep 25 22:04 |
| r_schestowitz | up to +2 now | Sep 25 22:04 |
| r_schestowitz | I think some people who read me find it interesting | Sep 25 22:04 |
| r_schestowitz | if (big IF) Lenovo games the number, they'll need more sockpuppets now | Sep 25 22:05 |
| r_schestowitz | One might hypothesise there are two groups there fighting | Sep 25 22:05 |
| r_schestowitz | 1. Lenovo/PR agents | Sep 25 22:05 |
| r_schestowitz | 2. actual people who follow the sub | Sep 25 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I posted the link in ##linux. Nearly 2,300 people in there. | Sep 25 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm betting I get more up than down votes from them | Sep 25 22:06 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, it's common sense | Sep 25 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Let's try spreading the link around where we'll get positive reactions to it. Make the Lenovo trolls sing for their supper. | Sep 25 22:07 |
| r_schestowitz | as for garrett, no news there | Sep 25 22:07 |
| r_schestowitz | he was always on this side | Sep 25 22:07 |
| r_schestowitz | not even on 'the fence' | Sep 25 22:07 |
| r_schestowitz | and Microsoft advocacy sites helps promote the myth of Linux - as if it's a company name - is to blame | Sep 25 22:07 |
| r_schestowitz | along with some MS apologists | Sep 25 22:08 |
| r_schestowitz | you can overrise page cache | Sep 25 22:10 |
| r_schestowitz | add something like "?somthing" to the URL to see the very latest score | Sep 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, If you know of anyone who can get this problem patched in Linux so that it kicks the hardware out of RAID and into AHCI as soon as it takes over, please lobby them for me. | Sep 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Garrett at least told us where to start looking. Even the file name. | Sep 25 22:11 |
| r_schestowitz | "I see lots off threads from you on Lenovo topics. That's interesting. Who is your employer? ;)" | Sep 25 22:11 |
| r_schestowitz | See what he says next :-) | Sep 25 22:11 |
| r_schestowitz | if nothing or some excuse, be a tad curious | Sep 25 22:11 |
| r_schestowitz | Some MS staff are in Reddit | Sep 25 22:11 |
| r_schestowitz | they curse at me there | Sep 25 22:11 |
| r_schestowitz | using their pseudonyms | Sep 25 22:11 |
| r_schestowitz | whenever techrights is linked to | Sep 25 22:11 |
| r_schestowitz | "I don't know whether you have noticed, but logic appears to have little to do with politics: and so far, the fat lady has not sung. " | Sep 25 22:13 |
| r_schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/latest-thoughts-about-brexit-and-upc.html?showComment=1474790065697#c6973291115732176133 | Sep 25 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Latest thoughts about Brexit and the UPC | Sep 25 22:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | LOL, UPC idiots | Sep 25 22:13 |
| r_schestowitz | promoting software patents here... | Sep 25 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | [–]wee0x1b [score hidden] 1 minute ago | Sep 25 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo is creating socckpuppet acccounts | Sep 25 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | No they aren't. People are just downvoting your asshattery in the general course of events. | Sep 25 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | Almost all of your comments are trolling, single line, crude language. | Sep 25 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | You're not exactly a wordsmith, are you? | Sep 25 22:13 |
| r_schestowitz | back to 1 point | Sep 25 22:16 |
| r_schestowitz | not that I expect them to give up, either apologists (or people on some payroll) | Sep 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | [–]wee0x1b [-2] [score hidden] a minute ago | Sep 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm often not verbose or nice to assholes, no. | Sep 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'd see a psychiatrist about that. If you can't be nice to yourself, nobody else will. :) | Sep 25 22:17 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft too has vested interest in suppressing discussion about #lenovo #gnu #linux shutout. Microsoft GOT CAUGHT astroturfing in Reddit. | Sep 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, What will the impact be on Lenovo sales? | Sep 25 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Think this will hurt the current quarter eventually? | Sep 25 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | I know a lot of the people who read about this stuff are sysadmins and purchasers for organizations. | Sep 25 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | If they're not going to fix the problem, it would be nice if there were other consequences down the road. | Sep 25 22:19 |
| r_schestowitz | with swings like 3% I suppose it's now around 30 voters | Sep 25 22:19 |
| r_schestowitz | meaning around 15 downvotes | Sep 25 22:19 |
| r_schestowitz | in an hour | Sep 25 22:19 |
| r_schestowitz | too much in my opinion, for this time of the night on a Sunday | Sep 25 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Reddit's vote count is not that accurate. | Sep 25 22:19 |
| r_schestowitz | [22:18] <DaemonFC> Think this will hurt the current quarter eventually? | Sep 25 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | You hit refresh and the numbers change in weird ways. | Sep 25 22:20 |
| r_schestowitz | They can do revenue shaping to conceal the impact | Sep 25 22:20 |
| r_schestowitz | the server sales can suffer | Sep 25 22:20 |
| r_schestowitz | IBM sold some of its business | Sep 25 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, you mean like Daylight Savings Time. | Sep 25 22:20 |
| r_schestowitz | and servers are chosen by geeks, not ordinary people | Sep 25 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | Take an hour from one end and stitch it to the other. LOL | Sep 25 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | Servers are probably their most profitable sector. | Sep 25 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Smartphones aren't real profitable unless you're Apple. | Sep 25 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | PC margins are thin. | Sep 25 22:21 |
| r_schestowitz | 2 points | Sep 25 22:21 |
| r_schestowitz | once it's no longer sandboxes they won't be able to game it | Sep 25 22:21 |
| r_schestowitz | I saw around 8 threads about Lenovo this today.... in this sub alone | Sep 25 22:21 |
| r_schestowitz | they would be foolish not to keep an eye on it at this stage | Sep 25 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | True. | Sep 25 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Also, r_schestowitz re shaping Lenovo stock has lost 2/3rds of its value since May of last year. | Sep 25 22:22 |
| r_schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/latest-thoughts-about-brexit-and-upc.html?showComment=1474807970198#c7960299312229339512 | Sep 25 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Latest thoughts about Brexit and the UPC [ http://ur1.ca/psojr ] | Sep 25 22:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | " Never mind, old observer, on the problems of other states. These will not be up to the UK. But, the contracting member states on the continent - as far as they ratify - will not wait for the ever braking UK as in the past. If UK does not want to participate on what reason ever they have to leave the UPC agreement forever and quickly , otherwise they will be excluded as soon as possible. Its up to the UK they have do decide on ,in or out', | Sep 25 22:22 |
| r_schestowitz | but not on ,sit and wait' while hindering the others. This will for sure not be accepted, anymore. " | Sep 25 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Ratings firms have downgraded them to sell. | Sep 25 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | They can't take many more hits. | Sep 25 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually it'll be Junk. | Sep 25 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, People would be insane to buy Lenovo at this point. | Sep 25 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that they get rebates from Microsoft for Signature, and the condition for the rebates was to make it difficult and inconvenient to run other operating systems besides Windows 10. | Sep 25 22:24 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: he's a gun nut https://www.reddit.com/user/wee0x1b | Sep 25 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | overview for wee0x1b | Sep 25 22:25 | |
| DaemonFC | If they weren't getting rebates for Signature, then they wouldn't participate. Huge revenue stream in crapware. A recent article pointed to between 19-33 pieces on a typical new PC, with HP and Lenovo being on the high end. | Sep 25 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | The average crapware bundle can make them up to $100 if the customer buys MS Office, antivirus subscription, and something else. | Sep 25 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | $50 for office, $20 for antivirus. | Sep 25 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's why they do it. | Sep 25 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | I believe the average would be $20-30 per PC infected, so to quote Illinois' former Governor, Rod Blagojevich.... | Sep 25 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | "I got this thing and it's fucking golden and I'm not giving it up for fucking nothing!" | Sep 25 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Microsoft excluded Office trial from the list of crapware that must be removed from a new PC under Signature. I had to remove it. 2 GB freed up on my SSD. More than enough space for LibreOffice. | Sep 25 22:30 |
| r_schestowitz | wow, 55% | Sep 25 22:33 |
| r_schestowitz | so now it's like 50 votes | Sep 25 22:33 |
| r_schestowitz | must be like 25 downvotes | Sep 25 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Reddit should do something to weigh the votes of new acccounts less than established or popular ones. | Sep 25 22:34 |
| r_schestowitz | 瑨灴㩳⼯睴瑩整�潣⽭效牮捩獨湥汃晩⽦瑳瑡獵㜯〸㐱㌸㔶〳㐰〲〶 | Sep 25 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | [–]wee0x1b [-2] [score hidden] 16 minutes ago | Sep 25 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | Fuck off. | Sep 25 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I love you too. | Sep 25 22:35 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 25 22:35 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/munin/status/780154536199532544 | Sep 25 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@munin: Yyyeah. That's always a great sign. Urgh. https://t.co/q7CmAeEnWV | Sep 25 22:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Lenovo is creating socckpuppet acccounts" https://t.co/1s2L0WV1iq #lenovo #uefi #gnu #linux #intel #microsoft #reddit | Sep 25 22:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Karen_Tullo/status/780160389820669952 | Sep 25 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Karen_Tullo: @schestowitz okay well that's a lot to chew on | Sep 25 22:42 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/780160020507922436 | Sep 25 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #censorship on #reddit ?? No freakin’ way! https://t.co/Cied425ho7 see https://t.co/0xNBelCpXv | Sep 25 22:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Karen_Tullo: #Sweden #Malmo seems like there could be some censorship going on on Reddit, links may be disappearing and comments deleted? | Sep 25 22:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @FalconLeia favourited 'Linux Twitter App ‘Corebird’ Now Supports Longer Tweets...' | Sep 25 22:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | 2015 May 28 | Techrights | Sep 25 22:42 | |
| r_schestowitz | oops, wrong link. http://techrights.org/2015/05/28/reddit-censorship/ | Sep 25 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condé) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | Techrights | Sep 25 22:43 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: XRevan86) | Sep 25 22:43 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 22:46 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 25 22:48 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 22:48 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: I think you got the long end of the stick now | Sep 25 22:50 |
| r_schestowitz | +4 and they lost momentum | Sep 25 22:51 |
| r_schestowitz | late friday mayday calls in Lenovo US HQ ;-p | Sep 25 22:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm sending a lot of traffic there, I hope this matter cannot simply be buried. They hope it will... | Sep 25 22:53 |
| r_schestowitz | try to find evidence of foul play like sockpuppet and I might do an article about it tonight | Sep 25 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 0 points 52 minutes ago* | Sep 25 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | I see lots of threads from you on Lenovo topics. That's interesting. Who is your employer? ;) | Sep 25 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparenteditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 25 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | [–]Bogdacutu [-6] [score hidden] 35 minutes ago | Sep 25 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | take a guess | Sep 25 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | An educated guess....Probably Lenovo. Maybe Microsoft. Since you are attracted to Lenovo topics, I'll go with Lenovo though. | Sep 25 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | How many people are on their crisis response team attached to this case? How many socks are they voting with? | Sep 25 22:54 |
| MinceR | do they even need socks? they've got conde nasty in their pockets | Sep 25 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ? | Sep 25 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | conde nasty? | Sep 25 22:59 |
| r_schestowitz | def. not a sockpuppet https://www.reddit.com/user/AnonTwo | Sep 25 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | overview for AnonTwo | Sep 25 22:59 | |
| MinceR | or whoever owns reddit today | Sep 25 22:59 |
| r_schestowitz | but who's voting, who knows? | Sep 25 22:59 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: code nasty is what RMS told me I can call them | Sep 25 22:59 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 25 22:59 |
| r_schestowitz | after I showed him what they had done to Wired and reddit | Sep 25 22:59 |
| r_schestowitz | RMS used to give articles to Wired | Sep 25 22:59 |
| r_schestowitz | not since then | Sep 25 22:59 |
| MinceR | Con Dinasty | Sep 25 22:59 |
| r_schestowitz | he still gives some to the Guardian | Sep 25 22:59 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: haha, good one also | Sep 25 23:00 |
| MinceR | the grauniad supports crybullies :( | Sep 25 23:00 |
| r_schestowitz | many upvotes still, DaemonFC | Sep 25 23:01 |
| r_schestowitz | but the pace of the burying is fast also | Sep 25 23:01 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: it does, yes... | Sep 25 23:01 |
| MinceR | http://giphy.com/gifs/l0MYSpvx4pnsoMNz2 | Sep 25 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Animated GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY | Sep 25 23:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: based on % deviation upon vote, about 60-90 votes cast now | Sep 25 23:07 |
| r_schestowitz | make that 30+ downvotes | Sep 25 23:08 |
| r_schestowitz | I can envision, if the theory is right, some "response team" trying to create reddit accounts and being throttled | Sep 25 23:08 |
| r_schestowitz | needing to make sockpuppet Email address to create accounts with | Sep 25 23:08 |
| r_schestowitz | it's not an easy jobs, but some firms do offer such 'services' | Sep 25 23:09 |
| r_schestowitz | or they set up users 'farms' in advance | Sep 25 23:09 |
| r_schestowitz | for a payment they use these farms to 'provide' the 'service' | Sep 25 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | [–]AnonTwo [-3] [score hidden] 8 minutes ago | Sep 25 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, at least he's not using his "wordsmithing" to be a condescending prick. | Sep 25 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 25 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | I suggest that he spend time with a dictionary. It's really easy to not be so dumb. You just pick up a book, read it, and when you come across a word you don't know, you look it up. It's very easy to expand your vocabulary beyond the word "fuck" if you give it a try. :) | Sep 25 23:09 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Sep 25 23:11 |
| r_schestowitz | you might want to point out some stuff | Sep 25 23:12 |
| r_schestowitz | Account with just two comments? About #lenovo ? https://www.reddit.com/user/NightRevan or am I missing something? | Sep 25 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | overview for NightRevan | Sep 25 23:12 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]Valdogone [+1] [score hidden] 2 minutes ago | Sep 25 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks for the alert BaronHK! Actually I never intended to buy a Lenovo, but reading that some of their "PCs" don't allow to install Linux is an additional and definitive showstopper to me. | Sep 25 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply | Sep 25 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | You're welcome! Please do other people a favor if they are asking for a good computer to run Linux on and tell them to avoid Lenovo. Even Lenovo now admits that you are not allowed to install an OS, including a clean copy of Windows. | Sep 25 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What a lovely nick that guy has. | Sep 25 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 17 minutes ago | Sep 25 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | If they don't show up, the plaintiff usually gets a default judgment, but if they were notified to appear and don't, that's really their problem. | Sep 25 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparenteditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 25 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | [–]AnonTwo [-5] [score hidden] 8 minutes ago | Sep 25 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | That still sounds like you're just filing because you think you can get away with it, rather than to try to find justice against them. | Sep 25 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 25 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 7 minutes ago | Sep 25 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | If they show up then I will personally hand them this laptop (after clearing and shredding my personal data) in exchange for the money I paid for it and the costs of taking them to court, which wouldn't have been necessary had they done any number of things to remedy the situation before it escalated to that point. | Sep 25 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparenteditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 25 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | [–]AnonTwo [-5] [score hidden] 3 minutes ago | Sep 25 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I think it'd be more likely they'd just countersue you for a frivolous suit. | Sep 25 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, you've already made them pay their lawyers by that point. | Sep 25 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 25 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | They're free to do whatever they want. Unlike their home in Communist China, people have rights here. | Sep 25 23:19 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 25 23:20 | |
| DaemonFC | from AnonTwo [-5] via /r/linux sent 2 minutes ago | Sep 25 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | show parent | Sep 25 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | ...If they're in communist china, then chances are you won't even be able to make them pay up even if they no show. China likely won't acknowledge your suit. | Sep 25 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | contextfull comments (41)reportblock usermark unreadreply | Sep 25 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 25 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | They do business here so the US operations are subject to US federal and state laws wherever there is nexus. | Sep 25 23:22 |
| r_schestowitz | 42 comments. Wow. | Sep 25 23:26 |
| r_schestowitz | "Some of these troll accounts are prone to using foul language to try to get a rise out of me" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 25 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ] | Sep 25 23:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | they try to bring you down to their level | Sep 25 23:28 |
| r_schestowitz | and then no journalists will take the thread seriiously | Sep 25 23:28 |
| -->Emchan (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 23:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @saeiddrv favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 23:38 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: they're losing it | Sep 25 23:38 |
| r_schestowitz | +8 | Sep 25 23:38 |
| r_schestowitz | I keep linking to it, I reckon it helps get some votes here and there, if the person is genuinely interested | Sep 25 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | I created a new Lenovo Forums account and used tor to get around their ban. | Sep 25 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I just updated the Lenovo posts again. | Sep 25 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | Update: The mods at Lenovo Forums are losing control of the narrative and banning people and editing/deleting more comments. http://imgur.com/a/Q9xIE | Sep 25 23:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Sep 25 23:57 | |
| -->KyriosBrastianos (~quassel@ipa99.19.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 23:58 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks, highlighted that | Sep 26 00:03 |
| r_schestowitz | it might discourage them from gaming it, IF (IF at all) they did in the first place | Sep 26 00:03 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good news | Sep 26 00:04 |
| r_schestowitz | even Lauri Love mentioned you | Sep 26 00:04 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780179617936211968 | Sep 26 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: (to be clear: hardware vendors have no right whatsoever to stop you doing what you want with the machine you buy fr… https://t.co/HjBMfOdK8C | Sep 26 00:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: (to be clear: hardware vendors have no right whatsoever to stop you doing what you want with the machine you buy fr… https://t.co/HjBMfOdK8C | Sep 26 00:04 | |
| r_schestowitz | I suppose you know who he is, if not look it up | Sep 26 00:04 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/raxthebully/status/780180017925926912 | Sep 26 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@raxthebully: @LauriLoveX @schestowitz @reddit but Lauri they said I'm not allowed to, das illegal 😤😱 | Sep 26 00:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AliasHere/status/780180200306806784 | Sep 26 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AliasHere: cc: @888MooMoo888 https://t.co/916EOMG961 | Sep 26 00:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Under American law, the president can issue a pardon even before its beneficiary has been convicted of a crime." https://t.co/kZ9Dv5PdDn | Sep 26 00:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ThyPirateDave/status/780180548971012096 | Sep 26 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThyPirateDave: @LauriLoveX if carrier locking wasn't bad enough... | Sep 26 00:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780181187952254976 | Sep 26 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: @raxthebully @schestowitz @reddit i don't see lenovo with no army tbh | Sep 26 00:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/raxthebully/status/780182161630437376 | Sep 26 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@raxthebully: @LauriLoveX @schestowitz @reddit heh, i don't even know who uses lenovo these days | Sep 26 00:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780182539306672128 | Sep 26 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: @raxthebully @schestowitz @reddit thinkpads are still pretty great but they'll find a way to fuck them up eventually | Sep 26 00:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780182920409419776 | Sep 26 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: Even in corporate IP-friendly USA, it's only illegal to bypass DRM for purposes of copyright infringement. @LauriLoveX @schestowitz @reddit | Sep 26 00:12 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780182920409419776 | Sep 26 00:12 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780182970745446400 | Sep 26 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: @jhamby @schestowitz @reddit inconvenience isn't a great selling point traditionally but tis a matter of market demographic calculus i guess | Sep 26 00:12 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780183416272588800 | Sep 26 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@LauriLoveX @schestowitz You're probably thinking of DRM used in the other direction to prevent people from running unlicensed Windows/Mac. | Sep 26 00:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: +9 now | Sep 26 00:15 |
| r_schestowitz | it's getting hot on twitter right now, some high-profile people mention the thread | Sep 26 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/td-p/3339206/highlight/false/page/30 | Sep 26 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID mod... - Page 30 - Lenovo Community | Sep 26 00:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | Now it's story number 3 (from the top) in https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780183416272588800 | Sep 26 00:16 |
| r_schestowitz | adorning 50+ comments | Sep 26 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're getting really touchy. I just posted a couple more things. They don't know it's me. | Sep 26 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | If they figure it out I'll request a new tor identity and make a new account. | Sep 26 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | They think they're so smart... | Sep 26 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Lots of people still viewing the Lenovo Forum topic. | Sep 26 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | Mods are monitoring it closely and keep screaming about a code of conduct. | Sep 26 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | Making up rules to try to keep honest comments to a minimum. | Sep 26 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | Some of those recent posts of mine on there have been seen over 1,000 times. | Sep 26 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | Getting really embarrassing for Lenovo I'm sure. All those customers finding out what's going on. | Sep 26 00:20 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LauriLoveX/status/780183979068710912 | Sep 26 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LauriLoveX: @jhamby @schestowitz well, issue here is that lenovo crippled their bios purportedly to please MS but i think we should shoot them all tbh.. | Sep 26 00:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780184292399820800 | Sep 26 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: "You" referring to @schestowitz, if that wasn't clear. I may be wrong, but I don't know of any anti-reverse-engineering laws against PCs. 🤔 | Sep 26 00:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/raxthebully/status/780184415884316673 | Sep 26 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@raxthebully: @LauriLoveX @schestowitz @reddit yeah the only decent thing, once that's dead then bye lenovo | Sep 26 00:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/780184791794618368 | Sep 26 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Much the same with ^relationships^. https://t.co/lP6ambrRxw | Sep 26 00:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "You can't just shut the lid or you come back and your battery is drained. Have to shut it down. Poor engineering" https://t.co/xCMhBrPgZF | Sep 26 00:23 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: +14 now | Sep 26 00:23 |
| r_schestowitz | they've lost the battle to bury | Sep 26 00:23 |
| r_schestowitz | a lot of people certainly would see it from Twitter by now | Sep 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I plan to do something about this every day if I can until they release a patch. | Sep 26 00:24 |
| razielle_tzu | i wonder if they'll just double down on the BS instead of that though | Sep 26 00:25 |
| r_schestowitz | the patch wouldn't salvage them anymore | Sep 26 00:28 |
| r_schestowitz | people don't trust them anymore | Sep 26 00:29 |
| r_schestowitz | if anything, a patch will make people speak about this scandal again | Sep 26 00:29 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 26 00:29 |
| r_schestowitz | they'd rather see people forgetting and moving on | Sep 26 00:29 |
| r_schestowitz | they're being battered a bit in Twitter and JoinDiaspora right now | Sep 26 00:29 |
| r_schestowitz | lots of retweets and stuff | Sep 26 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Well, at this point it's not so much about the patch as getting the word out that Lenovo is no good and they're using dirty tricks again. | Sep 26 00:30 |
| r_schestowitz | make them synonymous with "not good for Linux" | Sep 26 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | Preinstalled malware, BIOS that reinstalls crapware, blocking Linux, suppressing users who report problems with their computeers... | Sep 26 00:30 |
| r_schestowitz | other OEMs will learn their lesson and ensure decent BSD/Linux support | Sep 26 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/m-p/3438553#M8457 | Sep 26 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Re: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID... - Page 30 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/psp1q ] | Sep 26 00:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | ouch | Sep 26 00:38 |
| r_schestowitz | lots of money in datacentres | Sep 26 00:38 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/suscepimus/status/780190921715351552 | Sep 26 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suscepimus: @schestowitz "redditor for 4 months" + 437 comment karma = lots of deleted comments somewhere else. Maybe an alt, but not a sockpuppet. | Sep 26 00:44 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: +21 you're well in the green now | Sep 26 00:45 |
| r_schestowitz | when I posted linked in twitter it was in the red, -1 | Sep 26 00:45 |
| r_schestowitz | I think that more people who see it other than the Lenovo apologists (maybe reps) would decide it's worth highlighting | Sep 26 00:45 |
| r_schestowitz | should have 100+ in the morning, maybe more | Sep 26 00:45 |
| r_schestowitz | I hope it's another Superfish | Sep 26 00:46 |
| r_schestowitz | where at the end they give up lying | Sep 26 00:46 |
| r_schestowitz | and they end up not only looking evil but also extremely dishonest, like Chine's government | Sep 26 00:46 |
| r_schestowitz | that's when it's good to start covering the saga | Sep 26 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | from mnzl [-1] via /r/linux sent 18 minutes ago | Sep 26 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK do you understand why the moderator marked your initial tirade against Lenovo as misleading? The fact that Linux doesn't have a kernel module for your laptop's SATA controller and that Lenovo's bios doesn't have an AHCI setting is not an anti-Linux conspiracy. Please stop. | Sep 26 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | contextfull comments (54)reportblock usermark unreadreply | Sep 26 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | They marked it misleading because as soon as the Official Lie from Lenovo was out, they fell for it. Hook, line, and sinker. And that assumes that the moderator had honorable intentions and was simply duped by the PR crap, which was written by someone who lacks a modicum of technical knowledge. | Sep 26 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, It's like driving a nail into the wall. | Sep 26 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | You just keep hitting the SOB until it's in. | Sep 26 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Back down to +16. | Sep 26 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | It'll probably fluctuate wildly for a while. | Sep 26 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Until Lenovo gives up trying to game the system | Sep 26 00:54 |
| -->pidgin_log (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 01:01 | |
| <--KyriosBrastianos has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 26 01:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes | Sep 26 01:02 |
| r_schestowitz | I was thinking the same, but... | Sep 26 01:02 |
| r_schestowitz | we don't know if that's true | Sep 26 01:02 |
| r_schestowitz | and it could also be Microsoft | Sep 26 01:02 |
| r_schestowitz | or some Wintel interests | Sep 26 01:02 |
| r_schestowitz | or some of their fans, or useful idiots | Sep 26 01:03 |
| r_schestowitz | who take the bait or trust Mjg SJW | Sep 26 01:03 |
| r_schestowitz | I wonder how much they spent on PR/damage control so far | Sep 26 01:04 |
| r_schestowitz | other than their full time staff doing meetings on how to tackle this | Sep 26 01:04 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe they got some "outside help' | Sep 26 01:04 |
| r_schestowitz | like the EPO does | Sep 26 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | Oh yeah, like Edelman or something. | Sep 26 01:06 |
| r_schestowitz | they're one among many | Sep 26 01:09 |
| r_schestowitz | EPO hired FTI Consulting | Sep 26 01:09 |
| r_schestowitz | US-based firm | Sep 26 01:09 |
| r_schestowitz | EPO paid them over a million Euros in just one year | Sep 26 01:09 |
| r_schestowitz | they also did fracking lobbying in the UK (FTI) | Sep 26 01:09 |
| r_schestowitz | nasty firm | Sep 26 01:09 |
| r_schestowitz | and I have a rough idea of how they operate it | Sep 26 01:09 |
| r_schestowitz | MS got caught turfing in Reddit | Sep 26 01:10 |
| r_schestowitz | not Lenovo | Sep 26 01:10 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfing | Sep 26 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/3awqc ] | Sep 26 01:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ | Sep 26 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/e99i2 ] | Sep 26 01:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | so it could, in theory, be Microsoft assigning people to the 'taskforce' du jour | Sep 26 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I'm posting this on news comments. | Sep 26 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | There are a few updates. A hardware hack. A possible Linux patch to kick the system into AHCI mode despite the BIOS. A letter of complaint to the FTC and Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan. | Sep 26 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/542c8t/hardware_hack_enables_linux_support_on_lenovo/ | Sep 26 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Hardware hack enables Linux support on Lenovo Yoga 900 ISK2, undermining Lenovo's statement : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ps8aq ] | Sep 26 01:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ] | Sep 26 01:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/780198480790687744 | Sep 26 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@LauriLoveX @schestowitz Yeah, I was just agreeing with what you said. It shows they don't want my business, anyway. | Sep 26 01:18 | |
| r_schestowitz | +@4 | Sep 26 01:24 |
| r_schestowitz | +24 | Sep 26 01:24 |
| r_schestowitz | it'll reach hundreds tomorrow | Sep 26 01:25 |
| r_schestowitz | not sure if the media can go with it, unless you get a response from the FTC and then update the post | Sep 26 01:25 |
| r_schestowitz | which won't happen any sooner than Monday morning (at best) | Sep 26 01:25 |
| r_schestowitz | reddit posts have a 24-hour shelf life | Sep 26 01:25 |
| MinceR | which post are you tracking? | Sep 26 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | 27... | Sep 26 01:31 |
| r_schestowitz | third from top, MinceR https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/ | Sep 26 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux, GNU/Linux, free software... | Sep 26 01:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | keeping lenovo under fire before the real story is revealed | Sep 26 01:32 |
| r_schestowitz | though we might never know what exactly they agreed on with Microsoft | Sep 26 01:32 |
| r_schestowitz | unless someone leaks it | Sep 26 01:32 |
| r_schestowitz | it's hard to then deny what was said | Sep 26 01:32 |
| r_schestowitz | when a Lenovo rep said Microsoft demands this | Sep 26 01:33 |
| r_schestowitz | later they said the rep was wrong | Sep 26 01:33 |
| r_schestowitz | but I bet s/he was right | Sep 26 01:33 |
| r_schestowitz | and they just threw the rep down the river for saying the truth instead of lying... Like a Booss | Sep 26 01:33 |
| MinceR | wow, reddit is full of retards | Sep 26 01:36 |
| MinceR | like slashdot was when i left it | Sep 26 01:36 |
| MinceR | and like digg was when i looked at it | Sep 26 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I copied and pasted that comment to as many news articles as I could log into. | Sep 26 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | Probably 15 or so. | Sep 26 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | Leading back to the article about the FTC/Illinois Attorney General | Sep 26 01:39 |
| MinceR | and lenovo just keeps on digging that hole | Sep 26 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | I got an autoreply from the AG's office. | Sep 26 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Dear Consumer, | Sep 26 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you for contacting the Office of the Attorney General online regarding your consumer complaint. We have received your online complaint (and, if applicable, attachments of supporting documents) and will be reviewing it over the next few weeks to determine what assistance we may provide. Once we have reviewed the complaint and made a determination, we will send you written notification of our decision. If your complaint is retained | Sep 26 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | by this office, a staff person may forward your complaint and supporting documents to the business involved requesting a response. Please know that your concerns are important to us. We thank you in advance for your patience. | Sep 26 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Very truly yours, | Sep 26 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Lisa Madigan | Sep 26 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois Attorney General | Sep 26 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, She might be interested in this. | Sep 26 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | She's gone after Facebook and Jimmy Johns. | Sep 26 01:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | She has a thing about enforcing the law against big companies. | Sep 26 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | The case against Facebook is regarding photo tagging, which violates the Illinois Biometric Security Privacy Act. | Sep 26 01:41 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe update when you have an actual person replying, not a bot | Sep 26 01:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 26 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I'm not going to pollute the reddit with an autoreply. | Sep 26 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | But I did post another screenshot of the Lenovo forums. | Sep 26 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | That post has been seen about 400 times now. | Sep 26 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Hopefully Illinois has a law against what Lenovo is doing. | Sep 26 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | They can get slapped with fines from the government for it. | Sep 26 01:43 |
| r_schestowitz | "65% upvoted" | Sep 26 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois loves cases where they can easily fine the crap out of something. | Sep 26 01:43 |
| r_schestowitz | Watch it changing over time | Sep 26 01:43 |
| r_schestowitz | if it climbs up to 80%, then it can provide reasonable evidence of foul play | Sep 26 01:44 |
| r_schestowitz | it was at 40 something percent earlier on | Sep 26 01:44 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: except when it comes to water :-p | Sep 26 01:44 |
| r_schestowitz | as in flint | Sep 26 01:44 |
| r_schestowitz | oh, wait | Sep 26 01:45 |
| r_schestowitz | michigan | Sep 26 01:45 |
| r_schestowitz | I got them mixed up | Sep 26 01:45 |
| r_schestowitz | michigan changed the rule about a week ago to let the crooks get away with what they had done in flint | Sep 26 01:45 |
| MinceR | it's sad when the upholding of law is only important as far as fines go | Sep 26 01:45 |
| r_schestowitz | esp. when the fines are slush funds to them | Sep 26 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | hey, let'e have debt prisons back :-p | Sep 26 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | with private workforce inside | Sep 26 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | and inmate labour for private corporations | Sep 26 01:46 |
| r_schestowitz | 29+ | Sep 26 01:53 |
| r_schestowitz | it'll cruise past 100 monday morning | Sep 26 01:53 |
| r_schestowitz | but I don't know how to force disclosure of the back room deal with Microsoft for "Signature Edition" | Sep 26 01:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Does the OEM contrast for this exist in some site; is it leakable | Sep 26 01:54 |
| r_schestowitz | not user-OEM-MS EULA | Sep 26 01:54 |
| r_schestowitz | but the OEM deal, we have some of the old ones with Compaq and Dell in the techrights wiki, thanks to comes vs Microsoft | Sep 26 01:55 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 02:01 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Been trying to edit Lenovo's wikipedia. People keep removing it. | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Pre-loading bloatware with security issues[edit] | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | As of June 2016, a Duo Labs report stated that Lenovo was still installing bloatware, some of which leads to security vulnerabilities as soon as the user turns on their new PC.[75][76] | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Dolby Audio X2 Engine[edit] | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has preloaded "Dolby Audio X2 Engine" onto certain laptops, which creates a local privilege escalation vulnerability in Windows due to insecure and unnecessary file permissions. Lenovo has rated the severity of this vulnerability "High".[77] | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Hit them from every angle possible. | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Let Wikipedia readers see what kind of crap they do. | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I found another one. | Sep 26 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | I changed it a little. | Sep 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Accelerator[edit] | Sep 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | As of June 2016, a Duo Labs report stated that Lenovo was still installing bloatware, some of which leads to security vulnerabilities as soon as the user turns on their new PC.[75][76] Lenovo advised users to remove the offending app, "Lenovo Accelerator".[77] | Sep 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Dolby Audio X2 Engine[edit] | Sep 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has preloaded "Dolby Audio X2 Engine" onto certain laptops, which creates a local privilege escalation vulnerability in Windows due to insecure and unnecessary file permissions. Lenovo has rated the severity of this vulnerability "High".[78] | Sep 26 02:08 |
| <--slbtc has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 26 02:10 | |
| DaemonFC | According to Lenovo, the app, designed to "speed up the loading" of Lenovo application, created a man-in-the-middle security vulnerability. | Sep 26 02:12 |
| r_schestowitz | 32+, will have reached 100 by morning | Sep 26 02:12 |
| r_schestowitz | gn | Sep 26 02:12 |
| -->KyriosBrastianos (~quassel@ipa99.19.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 02:33 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]redsteakraw [score hidden] 34 minutes ago | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | FTC really? Why not simply not buy products from Lenovo and tell / convince individuals and organizations to do the same. For the people that have purchased them encourage exploits and make them public to help further ring them through the mud. Crying to the government is pathetic, take real action in your own hands instead of cowardly trying to hide behind the government. Lenovo makes more money on huge contracts for deployment in | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | businesses and institutions so stressing their problems and exploits as well as sordid history to the people in charge of making orders would go much further to hurt them. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | Reminding people of superfish and their bundled malware will also help your cause. Gamergate, like them or hate them did do a number on Gawker by hitting their revenue streams and exploiting their screw-ups. While it didn't kill them the Hulkamania himself did the final blow. It was later revealed Gamergate's tactics did contribute to their downfall. Do not forgive and do not forget their slights, grow a pair and hit them where it hurts, | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | their wallets. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 21 minutes ago | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | The reason that Gawker went down was because billionaire Donald Trump lackey Peter Thiel dumped an unlimited amount of money into Hulk Hogan's lawsuit to destroy them. It was a 1%er war on the press, and it worked. They would have survived GamerGate, which was absolute nonsense. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparenteditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]redsteakraw [score hidden] 14 minutes ago | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | GamerGate weakened them and pinched their revenue streams, the Hulk Hogan - Peter Thiel tag team finished the company. Peter Thiel was pissed that Gawker outed him as being gay. Payback is a bitch. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 6 minutes ago* | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm gay. When I lived in Indiana, I was fired from one job because of that, and they didn't break any state laws at all. Here in Illinois it's illegal. I survived it. I'm not too worried about what anyone thinks. | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Peter Thiel went in front of the RNC and shouted "I'm proud to be gay!". I would have liked to have seen the looks on the faces of the Republican Party insiders/activists present for that one. :) | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Not exactly an open-minded group of people, but social conservatism is a disease. | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Being a billionaire gives you a lot of privileges. If someone hates Thiel for being gay, he doesn't have to worry about not getting a paycheck next week. Takes no courage for him to say anything. | Sep 26 02:49 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 26 02:55 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 02:55 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I noticeed that my tor ip address is in the UK. | Sep 26 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | I can watch iplayer.. | Sep 26 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | [–]iindigo [+1] [score hidden] 3 minutes ago | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say it's worth pointing out that Apple doesn't block installation of third-party operating systems on their computers. Even the iPad-like more-appliance-than-PC 12" MacBook booted Windows from day 1, and as far as I can tell they run Linux fine too – as they should. | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | If the most experience-controlling PC company in existence allows freedom of OS, what does that say of Lenovo? | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I never imagined that there could be a nastier and more controlling computer hardware company than Apple until I got a Lenovo laptop. | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I got it because it was the cheapest thing at Best Buy with this class of hardware, and Lenovo managed to ruin the whole thing with a couple of lines of BIOS code. | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be rebooting the demo model with a Linux USB stick and making sure the laptop can see the storage next time, before I leave the store with one. | Sep 26 03:04 |
| MinceR | pity crApple's hardware sucks | Sep 26 03:06 |
| MinceR | the ordinary MacBook has a weak GPU, the MacBook Air 11" has a shitty display resolution, the others are heavy as fuck | Sep 26 03:07 |
| MinceR | and they're afraid of disclosing the exact CPU models | Sep 26 03:07 |
| MinceR | then there's the stupid gimmicks making their hw unreliable or even dangerous | Sep 26 03:09 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/a/l9zqY | Sep 26 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Sep 26 03:15 | |
| MinceR | crApple is all hype and no substsnce | Sep 26 03:15 |
| MinceR | s/tsn/tan/ | Sep 26 03:15 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Bhmk2 | Sep 26 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So, what's the problem? - Album on Imgur | Sep 26 03:20 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 26 03:22 | |
| <--Tervy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | Sep 26 03:30 | |
| -->Tervy (Tervy@laamaperhe.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 03:31 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 03:38 | |
| -->wgas (~quassel@unaffiliated/wgas) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 03:40 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/54f89p/tpbclean_is_the_pirate_bay_but_without_the_porn/ | Sep 26 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | TPBClean is The Pirate Bay but without the porn. : Piracy | Sep 26 03:47 | |
| DaemonFC | –]BaronHK 5 points 4 hours ago | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | There might as well be no porn on TPB. According to news articles I've read, porn and Game of Thrones are the two things most likely to result in DMCA notices to your ISP. HBO just wants to say "We know what you did. Get an HBO subscription!", but the porn companies will actually demand settlement money and blackmail you with threats of including the file names in the (public) court filings if you don't pay up and they sue you. Some | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | speculate that the most litigious porn trolls are posting and seeding their own stuff as bait. | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveeditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | [–]Squeezymypenisy [+1] 2 points 45 minutes ago | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | porn companies | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Must be because they aren't close to the profits they used to have. | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point a minute ago | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Probably. The price of a porn DVD/Blu Ray is upwards of $30 at Priscilla's in Fort Wayne. Pfft! And There's a really small selection of gay porn, and most of it is from 5-10 years ago and none of it will ever be on Blu Ray. | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know what the going price is in Chicago. Haven't been to any shops here. Amazon has a wider selection at better prices. Plus it drives religious employees nuts that they have to pick and pack sex toys and lubes and videos. I remember one of them quit and then tried to sue Amazon for having her pick merchandise in that department. I thought it was hysterical. | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | from torontohatesfacts [-3] via /r/linux sent 5 minutes ago | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | show parent | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Yet you still chose to buy the MICROSOFT SIGNATURE SERIES MODEL. As in MICROSOFT had Lenovo build it to specifications that MICROSOFT designed. Had you bought a Lenovo only product, one that wasn't built for Microsoft certification specifically you would have a claim. | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | contextfull comments (85)reportblock usermark unreadreply | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | So what? Linux works on the Microsoft Surface (at least for now it does). | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Why would I suspect that they'd start doing nasty things on another company's computers. Now that I think about it, it makes sense. Trial balloon. Test it out on Lenovo and see if it blows up on them. | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Probably helps that Lenovo stock has lost 2/3rds of its value in the last year. People don't trust them because of prior bad acts. Microsoft can control them by dangling money like they did in the last days of NOKIA. | Sep 26 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | Like one of those predatory wasps that takes over an ant and buries their eggs in it. | Sep 26 03:56 |
| MinceR | finally! it was so difficult to resist searching for porn on TPB | Sep 26 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | [–]torontohatesfacts [-4] [score hidden] 5 minutes ago | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you for displaying clearly that you are not of a reasonable mindset. You have a preset idea, do not at all attempt to research it out of interest in accuracy and are clearly not in a position to make claims to the FTC or courts on such matters. | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Test it out on Lenovo? How about you look through the Microsoft Store, the following companies all sell SIGNATURE EDITION MICROSOFT CERTIFIED LAPTOPS. | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | ASUS Acer Alienware Dell HP Huawei Lenovo MSI Microsoft Razer Toshiba VAIO | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo crashed in the last year and a half. If you invested a dollar in Lenovo, you'd have like 35 cents today. Test it out on a company with a reputation for doing despicable things like Superfish and Lenovo Service Engine (crapware reinstalling BIOS). | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing that they had done so far would affect Linux users though. | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe the malicious EXE in the LSE BIOS would have done something if you had wine installed and set up to handle Windows programs. I don't know. There was a study a while back to see if malware from Windows was wine compatible. Most of it either didn't do anything or just corrupted your wine profile. | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Up until now, when Lenovo was caught and ran out of bs that they could spew, they corrected the problem, but I doubt they're ever going to fix this. | Sep 26 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | [–]Sl31gh3r86 [S] 2 points 1 day ago | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | so what you're saying is university wont care unless harassed by big companies like paramount and HBO | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | It depends on the university. Several years ago, the MPAA wrote a "University Toolkit" that installed on the network and it basically narced out all of the students that were pirating things. Matthew Garrett at Canonical (at the time) found out that they were using a copy of Xubuntu Linux in the toolkit, in violation of the copyright (GNU General Public License) and sent the MPAA a DMCA take down notice. | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | Later it was revealed that universities that were stupid enough to install it essentially created a backdoor for the MPAA to cart off a lot of their other files and logs. | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | Just do what Terry said and get a paid VPN like Private Internet Access. Strong encryption. Doesn't keep logs. Tunnel through that while on the university's network. Hell, on your own network. Stay out of trouble with your ISP too. | Sep 26 04:43 |
| <--MarkBilk_ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 26 04:49 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 04:53 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Lenovo stock is down. | Sep 26 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | Probably for other reasons. Who knows? | Sep 26 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect the thing that's been holding them up is central bank stimulus, cost cutting, etc. | Sep 26 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | They admit that revenue and sales are down and cost cutting was the only thing that made net profits go up last quarter. | Sep 26 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | When companies make announcements like that, it means that they are in trouble. | Sep 26 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, what happens when you squeeze out all of the "efficiency". Laying people off, shutting down less profitable divisions, etc? | Sep 26 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | If your sales don't pick up you have one good quarter and then you're cooked. | Sep 26 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | I've been working on Wikipedia edits to Lenovo articles. | Sep 26 04:58 |
| <--MarkBilk has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 26 04:58 | |
| DaemonFC | I slipped in the blurb about recent Yogas not working with Linux and Lenovo admitting that it's incompatible. | Sep 26 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | Then I went to their main page and added some more blurbs about bloatware preinstalls that caused security issues on Windows. | Sep 26 04:58 |
| cubexyz | 4 hours of 720P video = 6 gigabytes | Sep 26 05:11 |
| cubexyz | time to convert 1280x720 video to 640x360 on the P4? 48 hours | Sep 26 05:12 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cujounited followed @tuxmachines | Sep 26 05:13 | |
| cubexyz | it only took a day to compile KDE 3.4.2 on the dual 550 mhz P3 | Sep 26 05:13 |
| cubexyz | predicted size of downsized video: 1.5 gigs | Sep 26 05:14 |
| cubexyz | conclusions: forget about P4 for 720P video | Sep 26 05:14 |
| cubexyz | video conversions are mostly CPU bound | Sep 26 05:16 |
| cubexyz | looks like this computer is from the 2002 era | Sep 26 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/d829c91 | Sep 26 05:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | BaronHK comments on Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. | Sep 26 05:24 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 2 minutes ago | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | This is what I have so far from a Linux kernel developer that I asked about the Lenovo Yoga issue (Matthew Garrett): | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | If you could install a Linux distribution in the first place then GRUB would get as far as reading the kernel off of the disk because GRUB is using the uEFI drivers at that point. Once it hands off to Linux, then Linux could be patched to hurry up and reset the controller and bring it back up in AHCI mode (which is what Lenovo removed from the BIOS) before it starts enumerating PCI devices (the SSD is on a PCI-E bus). | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | He told me you want to patch the file arch/x86/boot/compressed/eboot.c to make sure it's done before the kernel goes looking for devices. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | So it's theoretically possible. He said he would go see if it is documented and then maybe throwing together a quick patch if it is. He also said he's probably not going to try to push for it to be merged, so that will have to be done by someone else taking the patch and lobbying one of the kernel subsystem maintainers. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | So we have a lot of ifs, buts, and mights here: | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | If it's possible. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | He might write a patch. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | But he won't lobby to get it upstreamed. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | So it would be up to the subsystem maintainer if we get past all of that, and I'm not his favorite person in the world, so he might not even do it. I don't know. He did the last time I flushed a company out for writing a stupid BIOS that did something completely undocumented. It turned out that Windows had a hardware quirk for that behavior and so he copied what Windows was doing to work around the bug. The company in question released a | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | proper patch for their board, but they made similar boards for a bunch of other OEMs, so the quirk would help anyone stuck with those. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, I was using a G33 board from Foxconn with a Core 2 Duo. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | It turns out that when you're dealing with firmware, there are a lot of violations of the spec, and if anything it is only getting worse with uEFI, which is a 7,000 page self-contradictory specification that is full of Microsoft-isms. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | So all of this because Lenovo wrote extra code to stop you from using AHCI in the uEFI firmware. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| cubexyz | writing BIOS is pretty hard, not many can do it | Sep 26 05:29 |
| cubexyz | I hear google has a 30 person team to help with coreboot | Sep 26 05:30 |
| cubexyz | I suspect that no single person understands all of modern BIOS, even for a specific machine | Sep 26 05:30 |
| -->Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 05:30 | |
| cubexyz | I have a decent understanding of Gigabyte GA-BXC but I'm still learning about it | Sep 26 05:31 |
| cubexyz | power management, superio, PCI bus, displaying raster graphics, POST, booting... | Sep 26 05:33 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the CPU and DRAM controller inititialization | Sep 26 05:35 |
| cubexyz | it's just about 21st century alchemy | Sep 26 05:35 |
| cubexyz | the keyboard stuff has to be initialized too | Sep 26 05:37 |
| cubexyz | I don't even have a solution for modern ATX motherboard really | Sep 26 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | (Superfish again) Yeah, it took that long for Lenovo release a program to delete a few files, yank out some registry keys, and what else, exactly? | Sep 26 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | "In the meantime, please enjoy the bullshit about how this isn't a security hazard even though malware is being signed with the superfish key!" | Sep 26 05:42 |
| cubexyz | minifree is selling the X200 starting at £300 (ironically a Lenovo product) | Sep 26 05:45 |
| cubexyz | with libreboot | Sep 26 05:45 |
| cubexyz | https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/ | Sep 26 05:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/ ) | Sep 26 05:47 | |
| cubexyz | it's pretty good, you get the docking station with it | Sep 26 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, 94 points (71% upvoted) | Sep 26 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like the attempted sandbogging did not succeed. | Sep 26 05:51 |
| cubexyz | once one installs libreboot on the X200 you can use additional wifi cards | Sep 26 06:00 |
| cubexyz | for the brave: | Sep 26 06:00 |
| cubexyz | https://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html | Sep 26 06:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html ) | Sep 26 06:00 | |
| <--wgas has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | Sep 26 06:10 | |
| -->wgas (~quassel@unaffiliated/wgas) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:12 | |
| <--wgas has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 26 06:13 | |
| -->Glyphie_ (sid163528@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-symzeluuvyznjdoc) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:14 | |
| -->razielle_tzu_ (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:15 | |
| DaemonFC | 100 points (72% upvoted) | Sep 26 06:19 |
| -->cmdshftn_ (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| -->balrog_ (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| <--razielle_tzu has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| <--Glyphie has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| <--balrog has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| <--XFaCE has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| -->XFaCE (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:21 | |
| ---balrog_ is now known as balrog | Sep 26 06:22 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:28 | |
| DaemonFC | 106 points (72% upvoted) | Sep 26 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | I think we've survived the Lenovo vote bombing. | Sep 26 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | 240 votes, including Lenovo's Chicago-style voting. (The socks have as much right to vote as anyone else in this cemetery.) | Sep 26 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why firefoxx misrepresents my screen size. | Sep 26 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | 1280 x 720? This is a QHD display. | Sep 26 06:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281706553024512 | Sep 26 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to | Sep 26 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Protect Your PC from Viruses https://t.co/WxnCYB2wVO | Sep 26 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 06:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to Protect Your PC from Viruses | Tux Machines | Sep 26 06:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281707630964736 | Sep 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One | Sep 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Year of Development https://t.co/6UFzk7NJWi | Sep 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 06:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One Year of Development | Tux Machines | Sep 26 06:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Update: Lenovo just updated the BIOS for the Yoga 710, another system that doesn't allow Linux installs. Wanna know what they changed? Update to TPM (secret encryption module used for Digital Restrictions Management) and an update to the Intel Management Engine, which is essentially a backdoor rootkit built into all recent Intel processors (but AMD has their version too, so what do you do?). No Linux support. Priorities... | Sep 26 06:51 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo isn't a great design in general... even the X200 requires a considerable effort to replace the bios with libreboot | Sep 26 06:56 |
| cubexyz | I'll probably get another HP Chromebook 14 | Sep 26 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/m-p/3438728#M8460 | Sep 26 07:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Re: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID... - Page 30 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/psqo5 ] | Sep 26 07:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: 100+ | Sep 26 07:18 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: "74% upvoted" | Sep 26 07:28 |
| r_schestowitz | It was 40 something percent when I linked to it | Sep 26 07:28 |
| r_schestowitz | so obviously people on th e sub don't dislike it | Sep 26 07:28 |
| r_schestowitz | after the first 2 hours it's like 85% upvoted, see? | Sep 26 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Sep 26 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | troll voters went away I guess | Sep 26 07:30 |
| r_schestowitz | thanks for posting, glad to play along | Sep 26 07:32 |
| r_schestowitz | quite a success story for the community here, all in all | Sep 26 07:32 |
| r_schestowitz | also brought some new people to the channel | Sep 26 07:32 |
| r_schestowitz | most importantly, it send a warning sign to all OEMs that do a disservice to Linux and made "Microsoft loves Linux" look like a farce | Sep 26 07:33 |
| r_schestowitz | *sent | Sep 26 07:33 |
| r_schestowitz | I told my wife last week, this is an important topic to push on, as it would help determine how OEMs treat support for Linux, if we can show SEVERE consequences for Lenovo | Sep 26 07:34 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7885147 | Sep 26 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deavmi@pod.disroot.org reshared: #vista10 should have #microsoft sued a lot more often http://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-might-soon-track-absolutely-everything-you-do-for-your-own-good-508602.shtml see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Sep 26 07:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Nice mates. I want to get my family on GNU/Linux soon. :)" | Sep 26 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Windows 10 Might Soon Track Absolutely Everything You Do for Your Own Good | Sep 26 07:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights | Sep 26 07:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Same here: no win support due to missing knowledge. ;) | Sep 26 07:35 |
| r_schestowitz | ":) Tomet" | Sep 26 07:35 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7886255 | Sep 26 08:14 |
| r_schestowitz | "I used to like Lenovo. Nice hardware, got on rather well with their tech support back when I did hardware repair. Oh well; System 76 laptops for me from now on." | Sep 26 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anonymiss@despora.de reshared: #lenovo #deletionism follows #revisionism with #microsoft after #intel #uefi helped block #linux & #unix https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54cbss/lenovo_deleted_a_link_to_a_petition_to_the/ | Sep 26 08:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reddit.com | Lenovo deleted a link to a petition to the company to enable Linux support in their BIOS on the Yoga laptops. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psl2h ] | Sep 26 08:14 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7887821 | Sep 26 08:16 |
| r_schestowitz | "Maybe with their Linux sub-system. Idk, if they love it, they probablu do as it’s easier to maintain than Windows." | Sep 26 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Is it some more of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, or does Microsoft really love Linux." https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/546g8p/does_microsoft_really_love_linux/ #microsoft still SUES Linux. | Sep 26 08:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reddit.com | Does Microsoft Really Love Linux? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psqy3 ] | Sep 26 08:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | NSA, Troll department | Sep 26 08:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Lol | Sep 26 08:16 |
| r_schestowitz | quote from https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7889926 | Sep 26 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I see lots of threads from you on Lenovo topics. That's interesting. Who is your employer? ;)" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ #lenovo #gnu #linux | Sep 26 08:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ] | Sep 26 08:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: watch which comments get promoted (to the top) | Sep 26 08:33 |
| r_schestowitz | the whole dynamic of the thread changed | Sep 26 08:33 |
| r_schestowitz | and nearly 80% upvoted now | Sep 26 08:33 |
| r_schestowitz | used to be over 40% at the start | Sep 26 08:33 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | No problem. I appreciate your callout too. It boggles my mind how people can justify this crap by saying "They list windows 10 pro and home as the supported operating system". | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Who would defend a car model that can only be driven on 1 or 2 highways? Bloody insane how far this sheep consumerism mentality goes. I get that it might be a honest driver issue without any malice intended, but i'd burn them just as hard because of their incompetence to do their quality assurance correctly. But guess what? they already lost their benefit of doubt on their previous fuck-up. | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, there is a pattern of bad behavior at issue here. Pre-installed malware and their response to people finding out about it (The Superfish incident), a BIOS that abused an anti-theft feature to keep reinstalling crapware, and now a half dozen or so Yoga computers that can't run Linux for no other reason than they wrote additional code to strip support for it out of a BIOS that had the support to begin with. | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Now they try to control how people are allowed to think about the issue by imposing arbitrary rules in their own discussion forum for the issue. | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Bingo | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | "Lenovo shill detected" | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | (Superfish) They did not immediately stop and they said a lot of lies and dragged their feet on it before releasing a removal tool and admitting that it was a security threat. | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | (Idiotic fake RAID in the Yoga) There is no reason for supporting the fake raid in Linux. It doesn't do anything useful except work around a problem with Windows (lack of driver override support would cause Windows to use a generic driver and get bad power management if it didn't think this was RAID and load Intel's driver). The right thing to do here is almost certainly to use Linux to set the hardware back to AHCI on every boot and | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | ignore the RAID mode entirely. | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | As a result of Lenovo's incompetence/malfeasance (pick one) you can't even clean install Windows without a lot of work. You'd think that Windows 10 would bundle an Intel driver wouldn't you? Maybe they will in the future. Right now, good luck if you're an average user when the preinstalled copy of Windows goes south. | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | "No more fucking lenovo for me , that's sure." | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | Jesus Christ, Lenovo is ruining their legacy pulling off a stunt like this. Their old Thinkpads are still considered the easiest laptops on which to install a Linux Distro. | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | RIP (Rest in Pieces) | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | "Wow, i just came on here because i was thinking of switching to Linux on my Lenovo laptop. I guess it saves me a lot of time on research if it isn't even possible u_u Well i'll be throwing in my support by filing complaints as you suggested. What a disappointment." | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | Matthew Garrett approaches a lot of people with hostility. | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | If you want to know what he thinks is the solution, you can read it here. | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/d829c91 | Sep 26 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | BaronHK comments on Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. | Sep 26 08:38 | |
| r_schestowitz | He admits that the best way to approach this is probably to ignore the forced RAID mode, which by the way, Lenovo had to write additional code to hide and write-protect, and just have Linux reset the hardware to AHCI after the kernel starts. Then nobody ever has to worry about supporting the RAID controller in Linux. Lenovo probably didn't plan on anyone ever thinking about that. It doesn't help Linux anyway. It's working around a | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | limitation in Windows. The limitation being that there's no way to do a driver override in Windows when there's a better driver available (in this case for power management), so fooling it with RAID mode makes it go load Intel's driver. | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | The idea cropped up in a comment on the thread about Lenovo doing this and I took it to Garrett on his blog. | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | Even with his caustic personality and horrible social positions, he's in a position to write a patch for this. I'm not. | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, he can be hostile | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | don't take it too personally | Sep 26 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, You think he'll come through or is there someone else I should talk to? | Sep 26 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'd really love to get that patch in so that it works anyway despite MS+Lenovo. | Sep 26 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | It would be interesting if they broke future models in some other way. | Sep 26 08:59 |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 26 09:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:44:02) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Hi | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:44:22) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: OK, no problems | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 08:45 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:45:14) someone has signed off. | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:45:15) someone has signed on. | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:48:48) someone has signed off. | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:48:51) someone has signed on. | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 08:50 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:53:28) someone: how's it going? | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:54:21) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: good, quiet night | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 08:55 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:55:45) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: someone from techrights is still pressing Lenovo https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux | Sep 26 09:14 | |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:00) someone: not sure how big a deal it is | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:18) someone: apple seem to get away with selling hardware with software locked in | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:42) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: right, but they advertise now as "PC" | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: anyway, it's not my 'project' | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:54) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: some people in techrights | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:58) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I mostly just observe | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 09:00 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:00:20) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: it did have a big impact in the media, ~50 articles in English-speaking media this past week | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:00:38) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: they're scrambling to build up lies on top of lies | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:00:47) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: same thing they did after Superfish scandal | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:01:02) someone: superfish? | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:01:56) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: They preinstalled very malicious spyware | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:02:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: look it up, it was all over the news for weeks earlier this year, hundreds if not thousands of press articles about it | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:02:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: (in English) | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:02:51) someone: yeah i see it now | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:03:45) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: there was another scandal last year | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:04:03) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: the Chinese company ruins a reputtable part of IBM's legacy | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 09:05 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:06:58) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: handover sent | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:09) someone: are ibm not on your shit list then? | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: obviously not | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: IBM still does a lot for gnu/linux | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:38) someone: i assumed they were atleast equally evil to microsoft | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:45) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: on patents, yes | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: and software patents lobbying | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:08:00) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: but at least they contribute to FOSS in many areas | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:08:06) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: and they rarely if ever attack it | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:08:37) someone: apprently at IBM you are considered a master invetor if you have 1000 patents to your name | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:09:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'm mostly focused on patents these days, in techrights at least. Software patents are dying in the US and the EPO is dying also, see my latest on it... http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Sep 26 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Sep 26 09:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | (09:09:57) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: IBM's patent policy is terrible these days http://techrights.org/2016/03/03/ibm-swpats-weaponised/ | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | 09:10 | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:10:55) someone: i don't understand how software patents work in EU/UK | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:08) someone: i was under the impression they were still not formally recognised | Sep 26 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Shortly After Massive Layoffs ‘King of Patents’ IBM is Using Software Patents to Sue Much Smaller Companies | Techrights | Sep 26 09:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: right, because it's "compicated" | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: in theory they don't exist | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:23) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: but there are deliberate loopholes | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:34) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: EPO examiners told me they grant these | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:41) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: and EPO promotes these earlier this month | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:51) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: UK-IPO is not much better in that regard | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:13:18) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: OK, I better get going.. ;-) | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:13:32) someone: ok | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:13:36) someone: cya tommorow | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: for now keep their feet to the fire | Sep 26 09:15 |
| <--KyriosBrastianos has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 26 09:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281708650213376 | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop virtualisation kit-calculator goes open source | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O0A75i0XTD (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop virtualisation kit-calculator goes open source | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281709665275904 | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Last Release Candidate https://t.co/nPak7k7FbS | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs Last Release Candidate | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281710810271745 | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security and Software Updates https://t.co/eWAmE7PyTA | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security and Software Updates | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 26 09:58 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780331466995695616 | Sep 26 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leaked Presentation Slide Reveals Sony’s Android 7.0 | Sep 26 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Roadmap https://t.co/n1OXppT5fM (www.ubergizmo.com) | Sep 26 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubergizmo.com | Leaked Presentation Slide Reveals Sony’s Android 7.0 Roadmap | Sep 26 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780332132182978560 | Sep 26 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 4th rumors: Google to show off merged Android/Chrome | Sep 26 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS preview, $69 Chromecast Ultra and $129 Google Home | Sep 26 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Yzav36Fykz (liliputing.com) | Sep 26 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oct 4th rumors: Google to show off merged Android/Chrome OS preview, $69 Chromecast Ultra and $129 Google Home - Liliputing | Sep 26 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780332803217055744 | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google could be about to reveal its Android and Chrome OS | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | merger https://t.co/td8P2n9d5u (www.techradar.com) | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google could be about to reveal its Android and Chrome OS merger | TechRadar | Sep 26 10:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780334045158932484 | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Firefox 49 features in Fedora https://t.co/GWuzH4wzJg | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (fedoramagazine.org) | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/new-firefox-49-features-fedora/ ) | Sep 26 10:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780334820039753728 | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My talk about Mainline Explicit Fencing at XDC 2016! | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Yb9DtqMWYT (padovan.org) | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-padovan.org | My talk about Mainline Explicit Fencing at XDC 2016! – Gustavo Padovan | Sep 26 10:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780336357583585280 | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gorgeous Apricity OS Linux Distro Now Works on 32-bit | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs, Build 09.2016 Is Out https://t.co/l3LQ3CGz48 | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gorgeous Apricity OS Linux Distro Now Works on 32-bit PCs, Build 09.2016 Is Out | Sep 26 10:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780336526169432064 | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets the Latest Debian | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Fixes, Update Now https://t.co/Yk0RL1FtwF | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets the Latest Debian Security Fixes, Update Now | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780336905867108352 | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Protect Your PC from Viruses https://t.co/NJJocZDzWA | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to Protect Your PC from Viruses | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780337086176034816 | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Year of Development https://t.co/NgJRpLkqhc | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One Year of Development | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Soundtoxin retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Google could be about to reveal its Android...' | Sep 26 10:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780337757981933568 | Sep 26 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs | Sep 26 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Last Release Candidate https://t.co/hEVDJd05sz | Sep 26 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs Last Release Candidate | Sep 26 10:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780338645576343552 | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security and Software Updates https://t.co/WDEKVrL3mR | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security and Software Updates | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339239040999424 | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wattOS 10 Microwatt Edition Comes with Less of | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Everything, Based on Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/5N0Ll2WSMg | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | wattOS 10 Microwatt Edition Comes with Less of Everything, Based on Ubuntu 16.04 | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339265733554176 | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | digiKam 5.2.0 Linux RAW Image Editor Introduces a New Red | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Eyes Tool, Bug Fixes https://t.co/QWZ56LuLfX | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | digiKam 5.2.0 Linux RAW Image Editor Introduces a New Red Eyes Tool, Bug Fixes | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339618659131392 | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.7.5 Released with Numerous ARM and | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Networking Improvements https://t.co/ZVRxRI1ZKE | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.7.5 Released with Numerous ARM and Networking Improvements | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339846112022528 | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Worms W.M.D should have multiplatform online play by the | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | end of October, including between GOG and Steam | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/deBZSuKuXW (error) | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/worms-wmd-should-have-multiplatform-online-play-by-the-end-of-october-including-between-gog-and-steam.8173 ) | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339997958438916 | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with In-Game | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Level Editor, Improvements https://t.co/qATUiP7Nkx | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with In-Game Level Editor, Improvements | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 10:50 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft says that they want to solve cancer by treating it like a computer virus. | Sep 26 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | Just like Microsoft solved computer viruses by treating them like computer vir....oh wait. | Sep 26 10:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I linked to your thread from tux machines | Sep 26 11:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that was a Microsoft spam campaign | Sep 26 11:01 |
| schestowitz | I responded to it, but not in an article | Sep 26 11:01 |
| schestowitz | then there was the Zuckerberg idiocy about curing disease | Sep 26 11:02 |
| schestowitz | same publicity stunt as Bill Gates' | Sep 26 11:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780341268979253248 | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Now Has Bootable RISC-V Disk Images Available | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/015J8lqbIj (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Now Has Bootable RISC-V Disk Images Available - Phoronix | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780347284026523648 | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 11:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 • The Register | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.7.5 Released with Numerous ARM and...' | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with...' | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to...' | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One...' | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK Linux 4.8 gets...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gorgeous Apricity OS Linux Distro Now Works on...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780347459532890113 | Sep 26 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'wattOS 10 Microwatt Edition Comes with Less of...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'digiKam 5.2.0 Linux RAW Image Editor Introduces a...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets the Latest Debian...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| DaemonFC | Time for bed. I keep meaning to run by Best Buy and get a CF card so I can install a Linux distribution to is. | Sep 26 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | It's better than a kick in the ass. As they say.... | Sep 26 11:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good job | Sep 26 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 11:08 |
| schestowitz | most commented in sub https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/ | Sep 26 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux, GNU/Linux, free software... | Sep 26 11:09 | |
| schestowitz | except SJWs thread (older) | Sep 26 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. | Sep 26 11:10 |
| schestowitz | hopefully the Office will send a response, it can be posted as a separate post if need be | Sep 26 11:11 |
| schestowitz | if they are looking into it | Sep 26 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | office? | Sep 26 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, the AG? | Sep 26 11:11 |
| schestowitz | "Lenovo under investigation for working with Microsoft to limit choice" or something to that effect | Sep 26 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. If the state thinks they can get a good fine out of it, they'll chase it down. | Sep 26 11:12 |
| schestowitz | they can demand the contracts under NDAs or something | Sep 26 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I think they have special attorney powers | Sep 26 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Best part is that Microsoft has large offices in Illinois. | Sep 26 11:12 |
| schestowitz | where there's smoke there's usually fire | Sep 26 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | Physical presence in Chicago and Downer's Grove. | Sep 26 11:12 |
| schestowitz | home of Dick Tracy iirc | Sep 26 11:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus...' | Sep 26 11:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780348819322044416 | Sep 26 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenChrome Maintainer Making Some Progress On VIA DRM | Sep 26 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver https://t.co/eGJvbcvz3o (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 11:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenChrome Maintainer Making Some Progress On VIA DRM Driver - Phoronix | Sep 26 11:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Yep. | Sep 26 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Night night | Sep 26 11:14 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 26 11:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-news-recap-lenovo-yogas-block-linux-skype-preview-gets-sms-relay-and-more | Sep 26 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winbeta.org | Windows 10 news recap: Lenovo Yogas block Linux, Skype Preview gets SMS Relay and more – WinBeta | Sep 26 11:17 | |
| -->KyriosBrastianos (~quassel@ipa99.19.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 11:41 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 26 11:55 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 11:55 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/latest-thoughts-about-brexit-and-upc.html?showComment=1474845017250#c2027066593447987249 | Sep 26 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Latest thoughts about Brexit and the UPC | Sep 26 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | It appears to me that:- | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Those who argue "wait and only ratify if the UK is guaranteed the court post-Brexit" are really saying "we don't like it, we never did like it, and this is a way of opposing it without seeming to be reactionary". | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Those who argue "kick the UK out as soon as possible" are letting a sense of hurt (which may be justified), or political purity (which is not justified) override the pragmatic calculation of the value to Europe of having the UK part of the system. | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Those who argue "ratify now, and sort out exit arrangements (if necessary) later" are recognising that this project was long fought for, but patience can snap, and it is better to be inside the system than out. | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | On pure pragmatism, ratification now makes sense. Whether pure pragmatism gets listened to in the UK these days is a different question, | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | wow | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | UPC lobbying again | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | I could not disagree more. The "ratify now and sort out the mess later" approach presupposes that there will be a politically acceptable solution down the line that allows the UK to remain part of the UPC system. When you sit down and consider what compromises this will require on the part of the UK (and the large number of EU Regulations and Directives, as well as international agreements, that will require amendment) then you realise that | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | it would be more than a little foolhardy to assume that everything will work out the way that the proponents of the UPC would like. | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | As has been argued by the IP Federation, the worst of all possible worlds would be ratification of the UPC by the UK, followed by the UK's withdrawal from the system. Indeed, which businesses could cope with the huge levels of uncertainty that such a sequence of events would generate? | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | So, to summarise, the "ratify now" approach that you propose involves either second-guessing a political outcome or setting up the worst possible outcome of all. Sorry to say, but I truly fail to see how "pure pragmatism" could lead one to follow that particular path. Are you sure that you are not letting the pre-referendum proximity to the finishing line affect your judgement? | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 12:02 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 26 12:36 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 12:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780349753385246720 | Sep 26 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing Various HDDs & SSDs On Ubuntu With The Linux 4.8 | Sep 26 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel https://t.co/uNPZclDcLv (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 12:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Testing Various HDDs & SSDs On Ubuntu With The Linux 4.8 Kernel - Phoronix | Sep 26 12:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780367668146761728 | Sep 26 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 26/9/2016: Linux 4.8 RC8, SuperTux 0.5 | Sep 26 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oks8xfn4NE (techrights.org) | Sep 26 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 12:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/9/2016: Linux 4.8 RC8, SuperTux 0.5 | Techrights | Sep 26 12:41 | |
| <--MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 26 12:41 | |
| -->MinceR (~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 12:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 26/9/2016: Linux 4.8 RC8, SuperTux 0.5 https://t.co/oks8xfn4NE' | Sep 26 12:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Brad_Kayl followed @tuxmachines | Sep 26 12:58 | |
| ---razielle_tzu_ is now known as razielle_tzu | Sep 26 13:21 | |
| cubexyz | Acer's got a new wrinkle on the google computer | Sep 26 13:50 |
| cubexyz | the acer "chromebase" | Sep 26 13:50 |
| cubexyz | I think almost everything's in the monitor | Sep 26 13:54 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo (!) has a pretty good deal on a chromebox... only $170 CAN | Sep 26 14:00 |
| cubexyz | there's also a chromebit dongle | Sep 26 14:03 |
| cubexyz | you plug it into the HDMI port of your tv or monitor and shazam... instant computer | Sep 26 14:04 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 26 14:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780376094918733824 | Sep 26 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Behind the GNOME 3.22 Release Video | Sep 26 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Dy80u6ObBV (blogs.gnome.org) | Sep 26 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/bastian/2016/09/26/gnome-3-22-release-video/ ) | Sep 26 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780376328734437376 | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 great Android features that iOS needs to steal | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cRLfcIXlEM (www.pcworld.com) | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8 great Android features that iOS needs to steal | PCWorld | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401739824455680 | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/eIOJWjIziE | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401741774790659 | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/0iYzb7XRtR | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401742991138817 | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/I9tUfM0whH | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401744236785665 | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8 great Android features that iOS needs to steal | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DFlpLdUgYQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 great Android features that iOS needs to steal | Tux Machines | Sep 26 14:41 | |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/HyQsR | Sep 26 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | Trump-induced anxiety is a real thing. | Sep 26 15:03 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/ClDjLTb | Sep 26 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-In 500 meters, leave the highway, then re-enter the same highway on an entrance ramp that's closed for roadwork. - Imgur | Sep 26 15:21 | |
| MinceR | apparently renaming ovi maps didn't help, it still sucks | Sep 26 15:24 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 26 15:36 | |
| MinceR | http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-09-25 | Sep 26 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2016-09-25 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Sep 26 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780401745616789505 | Sep 26 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/eRFZorfyT6 | Sep 26 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 15:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 26 15:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ojeinoffline favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 26 15:47 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 16:17 | |
| -->tyreld (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 16:18 | |
| MinceR | http://www.tundracomics.com/thisweekstundra/08-27-16.jpg | Sep 26 16:20 |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 16:21 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 26 16:21 |
| razielle_tzu | hi | Sep 26 16:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yay isn't ebaby great at telling you were a parcel is | Sep 26 16:22 |
| razielle_tzu | it can be yeah | Sep 26 16:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, the tracking made it sound like still in india yesterday, and today when just checked | Sep 26 16:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | no no I was being sarcastic | Sep 26 16:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then there are no emails to say got a delivery as well | Sep 26 16:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so yep no wonder I missed it today then eveven though here | Sep 26 16:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I did read that some stuff come quite quick or possibly such as that tizen phone, but now I got to wait untill tommorow | Sep 26 16:23 |
| razielle_tzu | ebay has little tracking of it's own, it relies on tracking features the post office and other delivery companies use | Sep 26 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well it gave the india stuff, but that's it | Sep 26 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I got nothing else for this | Sep 26 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so no idea it was in uk alrdy | Sep 26 16:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, going to see if I can get some outside help for event now as well :d | Sep 26 16:26 |
| razielle_tzu | nice | Sep 26 16:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe I cn ge the Jolla guy to come ;d | Sep 26 16:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or that other guy if not | Sep 26 16:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe I can get a Mozilla repo to come as well like before, it will be someone else now though | Sep 26 16:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Mozilla rep above | Sep 26 16:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, and maybe can get someone from Creative Commons UK hmm | Sep 26 16:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that should do it :) | Sep 26 16:28 |
| razielle_tzu | yah | Sep 26 16:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I don' think Libre office has reps :d, but don't need that, but if I contact the dutch again I should be able to have more stuff sent | Sep 26 16:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but still have some from before | Sep 26 16:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | stickers I mean | Sep 26 16:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | maybe something else to if I really ask nicely :d | Sep 26 16:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, old guy still wants me to get a council focal point, but thats' ok | Sep 26 16:32 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 26 17:55 | |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 26 18:30 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 26 18:42 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 18:42 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent.ftsr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/14355120_10154543113628343_3050392087581838364_n.jpg?oh=4a93b376b8d93086f39b9529fb30fd7a&oe=58654484 | Sep 26 18:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice ones | Sep 26 18:50 |
| schestowitz | all 5 | Sep 26 18:58 |
| schestowitz | saves me time separating wheat from chaff for humour | Sep 26 18:59 |
| MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1738/ | Sep 26 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Moon Shapes | Sep 26 18:59 | |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 19:00 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 19:09 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/natural-scientists | Sep 26 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Natural Scientists | Sep 26 19:15 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14440724_1340018339359165_937755095953111589_n.jpg?oh=95a41d416bedea91d7646e1eb0ff7446&oe=58639EA8 | Sep 26 19:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/andreathekline/status/780382090575618048 | Sep 26 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@andreathekline: @schestowitz @DrJillStein stay in Brexitland | Sep 26 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure that that's even supposed to mean | Sep 26 19:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I wait for daemon to get back | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Reddit locked his thread | Sep 26 19:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | which is odd | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Con Dynasty | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe he has insight as to why | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | next thing you know they'll ban or shadow-ban him | Sep 26 19:22 |
| MinceR | http://tribunist.com/technology/i-committed-the-biggest-mistake-of-my-life-iphone-7-owners-destroy-phones-after-drilling-their-own-headphone-jack/ | Sep 26 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-“I committed the biggest mistake of my life”: iPhone 7 Owners Destroy Phones After DRILLING Their Own Headphone Jack | Tribunist | Sep 26 19:24 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 19:26 | |
| MinceR | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/14199256_1768477530089460_6184589018484521235_n.jpg?oh=3b6726e50baf1cc0d7990651fd438d25&oe=58812BCD&__gda__=1485009575_34bf74293cfb2c07bd703a6e57d58e49 | Sep 26 19:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SB_Debbi/status/780388608394092544 | Sep 26 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SB_Debbi: @schestowitz how many different ways are you aiming to tweet the same negative comments ? Read the reports and the news | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ehschoenberger/status/780391340672712704 | Sep 26 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ehschoenberger: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka - way to grasp gov investment vs no private in sectors that need it. Knee jerk ignorance: https://t.co/dVIPVbwtXa | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/I6pbqhH | Sep 26 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows Update bytes off more than it can chew. - Imgur | Sep 26 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | devops LOL | Sep 26 20:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7893417 | Sep 26 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Buzzword DevOps: All Development, No Database http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2016/09/26/devops-no-database/ or, just call things what they really are, not buzzwords like Clown Computing | Sep 26 20:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> redmonk.com | DevOps: All Development, No Database – tecosystems | Sep 26 20:01 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I use clown computing joke extensively now | Sep 26 20:02 |
| schestowitz | people like it | Sep 26 20:02 |
| razielle_tzu | xD | Sep 26 20:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 20:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ed_averill/status/780479787269619712 | Sep 26 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ed_averill: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Freedom of... Assembly?, Speech?, ... | Sep 26 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ed_averill/status/780480144922193920 | Sep 26 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ed_averill: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Hey, get 2 remote presence robots and some good soap boxes! Do it from another state. | Sep 26 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/andreathekline/status/780481158375206912 | Sep 26 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@andreathekline: @schestowitz @DrJillStein you live in England- stay there- and invite Stein to move there | Sep 26 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Stay in the US, ma'em, your country has military bases in our country including one in #yorkshire #menwithhill | Sep 26 20:04 |
| schestowitz | ma'am | Sep 26 20:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tonirtx/status/780482633109155840 | Sep 26 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonirtx: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka I guess the police are just being extra careful since so many people deeply hate Trump and Clinton. | Sep 26 20:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780469911785246720 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Announcing the KDE Advisory Board | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0gMrmEIhMK (dot.kde.org) | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Announcing the KDE Advisory Board | KDE.news | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780484484588244992 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux Foundation Partners with Girls in Tech to | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Increase Diversity in Open Source https://t.co/tUtyrluxm2 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Linux Foundation Partners with Girls in Tech to Increase Diversity in Open Source | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| MinceR | webserver seems to be down :( | Sep 26 20:10 |
| MinceR | it keeps giving me guru meditation | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780484613194014720 | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Muneeb | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kalathil https://t.co/iEBmM7Hwkh (www.linux.com) | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Muneeb Kalathil | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780485084151422976 | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Reiser4 Implements Mirror & Failover Support | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/81YLPUVMls (www.phoronix.com) Edward | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Shishkin still working on it | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reiser4 Implements Mirror & Failover Support - Phoronix | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780485384933433347 | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unimpressed with Ubuntu 16.10? Yakkety Yak... don't talk | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | back https://t.co/TrK1VuBQta (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Unimpressed with Ubuntu 16.10? Yakkety Yak... don't talk back • The Register | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780485727582818304 | Sep 26 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Core i7 6800K Benchmarks On Ubuntu + Linux 4.8 | Sep 26 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/x1hnUH3VXG (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Core i7 6800K Benchmarks On Ubuntu + Linux 4.8 Review - Phoronix | Sep 26 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780486424676237312 | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat's Results Underscore its Growing Focus on | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack https://t.co/ZcFL50DJcp (ostatic.com) | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Red Hat's Results Underscore its Growing Focus on OpenStack | Sep 26 20:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780489053506535425 | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | On Wednesday the 28th of September Feral Interactive will | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | livestream Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II on Linux | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EpzzEoKwv3 (error) | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/on-wednesday-the-28th-of-september-feral-interactive-will-livestream-warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-ii-on-linux.8176 ) | Sep 26 20:32 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: techrights? | Sep 26 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780490068494585856 | Sep 26 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam Dev Days Are In 2 Weeks; SteamOS/Linux Will Be | Sep 26 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Talked About https://t.co/z5mdTbOiQv (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Dev Days Are In 2 Weeks; SteamOS/Linux Will Be Talked About - Phoronix | Sep 26 20:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780493124435111936 | Sep 26 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Black Lab Linux 8 Beta 3 Released https://t.co/7LzDIMzTQp | Sep 26 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.blacklablinux.org) | Sep 26 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org | Black Lab Linux: Black Lab Linux 8 Beta 3 Released | Sep 26 20:47 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: indeed | Sep 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the varnish timeouts in which site? | Sep 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | yes, some load issues earlier, seems better now | Sep 26 20:47 |
| MinceR | techrights.org, but it was a while ago | Sep 26 20:48 |
| MinceR | works now, but it's still very slow | Sep 26 20:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wow, lots of downtime this afternoon based on nagios | Sep 26 21:00 |
| schestowitz | the only solace I have is, I was away and could not do much to improve it | Sep 26 21:00 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 21:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/780497167949717504 | Sep 26 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz @debates @agustinduranLA @DrJillStein but put into a POLICE VAN? Appalling behaviour. | Sep 26 21:08 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't want to get upset at things I could not prevent and happened in the past | Sep 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I came to the realisation it's just self-defeating | Sep 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | nagios alerts on a phone would not have helped unless I have an ssh client | Sep 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | neo900 might help | Sep 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | the nokia 900 project | Sep 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | MS killed Nokia's debian gnu/linux on phones with physical keyboards | Sep 26 21:09 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @maelpoke favourited 'Black Lab Linux 8 Beta 3 Released https://t.co/7LzDIMzTQp' | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780500619333435392 | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Declutter your phone for a cleaner, faster Android | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | experience https://t.co/C11NfQu6g5 (www.greenbot.com) | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Declutter your phone for a cleaner, faster Android experience | Greenbot | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780501053611601921 | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Andromeda hybrid Android/Chrome OS tested on Nexus | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 9 https://t.co/xY3SjK2mRi (www.slashgear.com) | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Andromeda hybrid Android/Chrome OS tested on Nexus 9 - SlashGear | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1410.html | Sep 26 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids [ http://ur1.ca/psuqu ] | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780501817629274112 | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phones 5.7 inches And Over | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ja14SKbyLQ (www.androidcentral.com) | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phones 5.7 inches And Over | Android Central | Sep 26 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780502918143287296 | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi Mi Box Android TV appears in the wild with a $69 | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | price tag https://t.co/jcocHElHiS (www.greenbot.com) | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Xiaomi Mi Box Android TV appears in the wild with a $69 price tag | Greenbot | Sep 26 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @justin_devs http://twitter.com/justin_devs/status/780504426641358848 | Sep 26 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @agreenbot I've tried to use AndroidTV it | Sep 26 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | just sucks very bad. Worse than AppleTV when it first | Sep 26 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | came out. | Sep 26 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:41 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/ozx6V5a | Sep 26 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mac OS - now with 50% more apple - Imgur | Sep 26 21:42 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't like Star Wars | Sep 26 21:43 |
| schestowitz | even before it was -- cough -- Disney | Sep 26 21:44 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 21:44 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Anon_Technology/status/780509970555101184 | Sep 26 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Anon_Technology: Democracy is a general description Demoarchy is the problem you're referring to https://t.co/2WkXWaGmgs | Sep 26 21:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It's a Republic, not a Democracy, and it was designed this way. #jillstein represents the threat OF #democracy https://t.co/xwuhhgP1xV | Sep 26 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: hi | Sep 26 21:54 |
| schestowitz | see what reddit did | Sep 26 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They locked all my posts and marked them as "misleading". | Sep 26 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Sep 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/IanMolony/status/780510048577392640 | Sep 26 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanMolony: A Democratic Republic #PartyDespotism will be our undoing @schestowitz @kshaw58 @C_A_Vision @DrJillStein https://t.co/sebQR5AnKG | Sep 26 21:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanMolony: A Democratic Republic #PartyDespotism will be our undoing @schestowitz @kshaw58 @C_A_Vision @DrJillStein https://t.co/sebQR5AnKG | Sep 26 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I don't see how it's misleading at all | Sep 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | they should flag it "editor doesn't like it!" | Sep 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SallySi84056611/status/780510452102991872 | Sep 26 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SallySi84056611: @schestowitz @USATODAY There will be only one winner in this race. By now if you can't tell a difference there is something very wrong. | Sep 26 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | The difference between Greens and GOP or Greens and 'Democrats' is profound. | Sep 26 21:56 |
| MinceR | ITT: usians having no clue about what democracy and republic are | Sep 26 21:58 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bryanbrewtech favourited 'Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with...' | Sep 26 22:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780512050313302016 | Sep 26 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung in talks with Russian government to distribute | Sep 26 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Z3 to students https://t.co/7kIBqpnqNM | Sep 26 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 26 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung in talks with Russian government to distribute the Z3 to students - Tizen Experts | Sep 26 22:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GPShelbyCounty/status/780511860856614912 | Sep 26 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GPShelbyCounty: @schestowitz @C_A_Vision @DrJillStein It's democracy with a little d. Still exists in a Republic. | Sep 26 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GallopinDragons/status/780512072215912448 | Sep 26 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GallopinDragons: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Who cares about either of those things? What are their positions on issues that matter to others' lives? | Sep 26 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | haha, the two-party campers | Sep 26 22:02 |
| schestowitz | they's so 'cute'.. | Sep 26 22:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StaceyLScott8/status/780512331637723136 | Sep 26 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@StaceyLScott8: Agreed! :) https://t.co/3mXhoisC1J | Sep 26 22:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @StaceyLScott8 @MSNBC She presents the danger of impermissible views being brought up for the public to think about | Sep 26 22:02 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe they know what Federation is? | Sep 26 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Russian Federation? | Sep 26 22:03 |
| schestowitz | I always wondered that.. | Sep 26 22:03 |
| schestowitz | I don't even know what USSR qualified as | Sep 26 22:03 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: unlikely | Sep 26 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Aren't these just brands/marketing of governance models? | Sep 26 22:03 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: totalitarian dictatorship | Sep 26 22:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I didn't have anything in particular in mind. | Sep 26 22:03 |
| MinceR | as long as they're used to advertise various forms of oligarchy and dictatorship, maybe | Sep 26 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Russia's election is.... strange | Sep 26 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | United States is a federation. | Sep 26 22:04 |
| schestowitz | and havign Putin in power for so long discredits this system | Sep 26 22:04 |
| MinceR | afaik they prefer to call themselves a federal state | Sep 26 22:04 |
| schestowitz | also, the press being under severe attacks means journalists are afraid to criticise the ruling party, sometimes they just die | Sep 26 22:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, polonium does that :> | Sep 26 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh, didn't know that. | Sep 26 22:05 |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2016/09/eau-de-beef/ | Sep 26 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eau de beef | Engrish.com | Sep 26 22:07 | |
| XRevan86 | RF election system makes me want to forget all about RF election system. | Sep 26 22:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 26 22:07 |
| XRevan86 | Even though I did go and voted unlike 60% of the population who apparently really succeeded at forgetting. | Sep 26 22:08 |
| MinceR | ethanol does that | Sep 26 22:09 |
| -->acer-box (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:10 | |
| <--acer-box____ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 26 22:12 | |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2016/09/please-stop-splashing/ | Sep 26 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Please stop splashing. | Engrish.com | Sep 26 22:15 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm forking the Linux subreddit. | Sep 26 22:24 |
| MinceR | better fork reddit itself | Sep 26 22:25 |
| MinceR | it's free software, afaik | Sep 26 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxLessModerated/comments/54n1o2/welcome_to_linux_less_moderated/ | Sep 26 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Welcome to Linux Less Moderated. : LinuxLessModerated | Sep 26 22:30 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxLessModerated/comments/54n28g/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : LinuxLessModerated | Sep 26 22:33 | |
| DaemonFC | First post, copying the one they shut down. | Sep 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz | haha, bravo, good idea | Sep 26 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Welcome to Linux Less Moderated. : LinuxLessModerated https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxLessModerated/comments/54n1o2/welcome_to_linux_less_moderated/ too much #censorship http://techrights.org/2015/05/28/reddit-censorship/ | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: is it FOSS really? | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was closed | Sep 26 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condé) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | Techrights | Sep 26 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | is voat based on the same code? | Sep 26 22:37 |
| MinceR | last time i checked it was | Sep 26 22:37 |
| MinceR | no, voat is based on .net crap | Sep 26 22:37 |
| MinceR | so voat sucks | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | hahaha | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | down-voated | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | if you pardon the pun | Sep 26 22:38 |
| MinceR | they intended that pun | Sep 26 22:38 |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:38 | |
| MinceR | https://github.com/reddit/ | Sep 26 22:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ping | Sep 26 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reddit · GitHub | Sep 26 22:39 | |
| MinceR | https://github.com/reddit/reddit/blob/master/LICENSE | Sep 26 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reddit/LICENSE at master · reddit/reddit · GitHub | Sep 26 22:39 | |
| razielle_tzu | hi SebthreeBQM10HD | Sep 26 22:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, pm me | Sep 26 22:39 |
| MinceR | this is what the Gratis Windows Foundation says about the CPAL: "This is a free software license. It is based on the Mozilla Public License version 1, and is incompatible with the GPL for the same reasons: it has several requirements for modified versions that do not exist in the GPL. It also requires you to publish the source of the program if you allow others to use it." | Sep 26 22:39 |
| MinceR | it's also approved by the OSI for what it's worth | Sep 26 22:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780512592536203264 | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat targets $5-b revenue in five years | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HysefvHvvv (www.thehindubusinessline.com) | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindubusinessline.com | Red Hat targets $5-b revenue in five years | Business Line | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526184413081600 | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pump.io Servers Adoption https://t.co/MHIHX5inWD | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pump.io Servers Adoption | Tux Machines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526185658802176 | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/z45fn0b9yP | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526186707378177 | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News https://t.co/TzXP9LNuM9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News | Tux Machines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2016/09/see-i-told-you-the-airline-didnt-lose-it/ | Sep 26 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-See? I told you the airline didn’t lose it | Engrish.com | Sep 26 22:56 | |
| schestowitz | haha | Sep 26 22:58 |
| schestowitz | they just need to pay someone on IP phone to check it for them before production | Sep 26 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | It looks about the same as reddit. | Sep 26 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They have a discussion on voat. | Sep 26 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.voat.co/v/Linux/comments/1299811 | Sep 26 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voat.co | Linux can't be installed on recent Lenovo laptops per a secret agreement with MS | Linux | Sep 26 23:03 | |
| DaemonFC | The mod on /r/linux in Reddit seems to be pretty hostile to Linux and free software. | Sep 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | not new | Sep 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks for the link | Sep 26 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: At some point all moderators of Linux.org.ru (the biggest Russian-speaking GNU/Linux community) were Apple users. | Sep 26 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | it got better, some new moderators got in who are actually into FOSS | Sep 26 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | but still, interesting trend :) | Sep 26 23:06 |
| MinceR | slashdot also got inundated with crApple cultists | Sep 26 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The first comment in the list on voat quotes me. | Sep 26 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | "The Lenovo employee posted about locking the thread. Basically, he called me disruptive and then said that if they had to, they would turn on pre-approval so that nobody can comment anywhere on their support forum until they've read it and have made sure it won't embarrass them." | Sep 26 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | northportage says "Now, not only do the affected people still want an answer, everyone else has seen how they handle problems. Glad we've ditched them. | Sep 26 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | " | Sep 26 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: At least they didn't embarrass themselves. | Sep 26 23:10 |
| XRevan86 | Totally didn't happen. | Sep 26 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Sep 26 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.voat.co/v/Linux/comments/1302685 | Sep 26 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voat.co | What's really going on with Microsoft, Lenovo and Linux | Linux | Sep 26 23:21 | |
| DaemonFC | [–] Kleyno 3 points (+3|-0) 4 days ago (edited 4 days ago) | Sep 26 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Bullshit article. Are you really telling me that Lenovo intentionally crippled this line of laptop to a single OS, without any kickback from the company whose OS is the only one that will work on the hardware? | Sep 26 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Where is the incentive, where is the profit? The fact that these "special" laptops don't come with bloatware as well, tells me that they must be getting additional funding from somewhere to offset the lack of money from the bloatware makers. | Sep 26 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Mark my words, Microsoft have provided extra incentive to Lenovo to limit support to a single OS. | Sep 26 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | [–] ketezer 6 points (+6|-0) 5 days ago | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | I keep hearing about the "new Microsoft" but this sounds exactly like the old Microsoft. | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | permalink save source reply report spam | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Steve Ballmer....Satya Nadella....Same **** different *******. | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | There is no new Microsoft. Only new tactics. Only new lies. | Sep 26 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | I think that new tactic is mostly this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie | Sep 26 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Big lie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 26 23:32 | |
| DaemonFC | [–] klobos 4 points (+4|-0) 5 days ago | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Made with Chinese parts, but not a 100% Chinese company. | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | permalink parent save source reply report spam | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | [–] Broc_Lia 3 points (+4|-1) 5 days ago | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | What's the difference? The company you're buying from is effectively a reseller. | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | True, which means if there is some obscured malware or backdoors in the hardware, it doesn't matter if you're using a computer from Dell or Lenovo if it has the same part from China in it. And the Chinese have been caught doing things like putting backdoors in network equipment that the US federal government purchased and used. No telling what they got away with, but the American government is still too stupid to demand firmware that it can | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | audit on imported equipment. | Sep 26 23:33 |
| MinceR | at least the one from dHell will quickly fall to bits and dHell will refuse to fix it under warranty | Sep 26 23:34 |
| MinceR | then you get to try your luck again | Sep 26 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | 126 upvotes, 2 downvotes (98.44% upvoted it) | Sep 26 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | On the VOAT story about the Linux lockout by Lenovo. | Sep 26 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | So the anti-Linux trolls in VOAT are about 1.56% of users compared with about 20% on Reddit. | Sep 26 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | So the anti-Linux trolls in VOAT are about 1.56% of users compared with about 20% on Reddit. | Sep 26 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Sep 26 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | I turned it into a post on that article. | Sep 26 23:37 |
| MinceR | strange for a .net site | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | 126 upvotes, 2 downvotes (98.44% upvoted it) | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | So the anti-Linux trolls in VOAT are about 1.56% of users compared with about 20% on Reddit. | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | The mods on Reddit ended up shutting down my posts and deleting them, after flagging them "misleading". From what they said in their sticky comment, they were too incompetent to understand what I was even saying. | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, VOAT protects people from sockpuppet accounts. | Sep 26 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | You have to get 100 upvotes on your comments and submissions before you can downvote anything. | Sep 26 23:39 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 26 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, if you're trying to vote with fifty new sockpuppet acccounts like poeple to on Reddit, that doesn't scale. :) | Sep 26 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | *do | Sep 26 23:39 |
| MinceR | shouldn't be difficult to game groupthink on the long run though | Sep 26 23:40 |
| MinceR | especially as the garbage people flood new sites after they've ruined the old ones | Sep 26 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | [–] 3dk 2 points (+2|-0) 5 days ago (edited 5 days ago) | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | According to Reddit user /u/bownairo, it's possible, but very difficult to install Linux on the Lenovos: | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | I had to construct some custom "clips" as the bios chip is a WSON package. All of this was done with the chip in place and the battery removed. I dumped the bios continuously until I was able to get a few dumps with the same sha. Then I had the bios modified. I flashed my chip to all null values, rewrote my custom image, and dumped it back to insure it wrote correctly. This allowed access to the advanced tab so I could change the controller | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | to AHCI from RAID, allowing it to be recognized by installers. | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even know what most of this means though. I hope Lenovo and M$ gets their asses kicked for trying to pull off their anti-consumer bullshit. | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | permalink save source reply report spam | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | He had to go through all of that because Lenovo's BIOS checks to see if an update is signed by them in a manner similar to Microsoft Authenticode, before it will agree to update. | Sep 26 23:41 |
| MinceR | has anyone tried to meddle with the pci ids Linux uses to identify the SSD? | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It seems that the people who left Reddit for VOAT had some good reasons. | Sep 26 23:41 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/3N7BLXh | Sep 26 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[Windows Store] All 5 star ratings show only slightly more than 4 stars - Imgur | Sep 26 23:42 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The only way to get the PCI information is if you can start it in AHCI mode and grab it that way. | Sep 26 23:42 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 26 23:42 |
| MinceR | but the others will follow once reddit starts dying | Sep 26 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | There's only one ISK2 that can do that. The one that the guy hardware modded. | Sep 26 23:42 |
| MinceR | can't you just boot a live distro and lspci? | Sep 26 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No. | Sep 26 23:42 |
| MinceR | why? | Sep 26 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | It can't even see that the device exists. | Sep 26 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | You have to boot in AHCI mode somehow. | Sep 26 23:43 |
| MinceR | that's seriously fucked up | Sep 26 23:45 |
| MinceR | how does Backdoors10 find out about the device? | Sep 26 23:45 |
| razielle_tzu | slipstreamed driver | Sep 26 23:45 |
| MinceR | i mean, on the hardware side | Sep 26 23:46 |
| MinceR | how does that driver know the device is there? | Sep 26 23:46 |
| razielle_tzu | that i'm not sure about | Sep 26 23:46 |
| MinceR | maybe Linux could be hacked to just assume the device is there | Sep 26 23:46 |
| MinceR | and start talking to it | Sep 26 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.businessinsider.com/r-bangladesh-bank-exposed-to-hackers-by-cheap-switches-no-firewall-police-2016-4 | Sep 26 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Bangladesh Bank exposed to hackers by cheap switches, no firewall: Police - Business Insider | Sep 26 23:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It has the Intel RST driver for Windows. | Sep 26 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | The Windows Boot Manager loads Windows, which grabs the driver, and proceeds to boot. | Sep 26 23:57 |
| MinceR | that still doesn't answer the main question | Sep 26 23:57 |
| MinceR | how does that driver know the device is there? | Sep 26 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | How does the Windows bootloader see the drive? | Sep 26 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | The same reason GRUB could see it and load Linux if our theoretical Linux patch was able to reset the drive to AHCI on each boot. | Sep 26 23:58 |
| MinceR | the winblows bootloader probably just uses uefi | Sep 26 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | GRUB uses uEFI to access the disk same as Windows Boot Manager. | Sep 26 23:58 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 26 23:59 |
| MinceR | but winblows doesn't, does it? | Sep 26 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | The Windows startup procedure has a disk image with the Windows kernel and the Intel RST driver in it. | Sep 27 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as WBM starts that, Windows is aware of the SSD. | Sep 27 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, But the startup procedure is like that to make Windows boot faster. | Sep 27 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | So if you could toggle it into AHCI mode, you'd crash with a BSoD at this point. | Sep 27 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | Probably before you could log in. | Sep 27 00:01 |
| MinceR | still, the intel RST driver somehow communicates with the SSD | Sep 27 00:02 |
| MinceR | garrett claimed something like they only changed the id to keep m$'s driver from picking it up | Sep 27 00:02 |
| MinceR | so it should be possible to talk to it | Sep 27 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | And there's nothing in Linux to bind to the SSD beccause it is unaware of this. | Sep 27 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Garrett says that even though Linux supports RST it can't drive the block device in RAID mode. | Sep 27 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm thinking there's something missing here that's a lot more than PCI IDs. | Sep 27 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | He seemed to agree with me that the best solution is having the kernel reset the controller in AHCI mode at evey boot if that's possible. | Sep 27 00:04 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 27 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Wikipedia is getting as bad as Reddit. | Sep 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | You cite reliable sources and then a few hours later someone comes and finds a technicality and instead of fixing it, they remove the whole thing. | Sep 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | So I come back and fix what they complain about. They always argue the Wikipedia policies. | Sep 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | I fix it up just enough that it complies with the policies. | Sep 27 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Then once they can't find a reason to delete it anymore, that version usually sticks. | Sep 27 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, bbiab. Gotta run down and get something for dinner. | Sep 27 00:09 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 00:13 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 27 00:18 | |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-92-26-242-57.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 00:25 | |
| schestowitz | #lenovo announces layoffs. I guess the whole #gnu #linux backlash will harm their servers sales ($) severely and they know it. #microsoft | Sep 27 00:29 |
| MinceR | if they knew it, why did they do it? | Sep 27 00:30 |
| razielle_tzu | aren't most of hte layoffs in the motorola divisions though? | Sep 27 00:30 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 00:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526187869118464 | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/AJGY5wQFLy | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526188863168512 | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/uE9HhELa8Y | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780531273353822208 | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3 Awesome Themes For Plank, The Linux Dock App | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jl5DZEhfPG (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | 3 Awesome Themes For Plank, The Linux Dock App - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-lays-off-thousand-people-718442/ | Sep 27 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Motorola, Lenovo lay off over a thousand more people - Android Authority | Sep 27 00:44 | |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 27 00:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see above | Sep 27 00:48 |
| schestowitz | my wife told me an hour ago | Sep 27 00:48 |
| schestowitz | I guess there's a chance of correlation | Sep 27 00:49 |
| schestowitz | at least timing-wise | Sep 27 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Their smartphone division has been in trouble for a long time. | Sep 27 00:49 |
| schestowitz | there might be layoffs coming in other divisions | Sep 27 00:50 |
| schestowitz | give it time | Sep 27 00:50 |
| schestowitz | their invoices/orders for servers must have already taken a tumble | Sep 27 00:50 |
| razielle_tzu | seems that way although they seem to be deflecting to the phone division from what i've read | Sep 27 00:51 |
| <--tyreld has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 00:52 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 27 00:59 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/54nrkw/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 27 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/psvmi ] | Sep 27 01:00 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ouch | Sep 27 01:01 |
| schestowitz | what will you tell your city? ;-) | Sep 27 01:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jfleit/status/780557826724810752 | Sep 27 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jfleit: Well, that's one way to show up to #debatenight https://t.co/OZnFFXDKFk | Sep 27 01:03 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/54nryz/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 27 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: " In 2012, Stein and her running mate were arrested outside Hofstra University" https://t.co/GsjSVJyJwN cuffed to a chair for 8 hours | Sep 27 01:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : technology [ http://ur1.ca/psvmu ] | Sep 27 01:03 | |
| schestowitz | do the comments mention the linux dbacle? | Sep 27 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Trying to x-post this to all relevant subreddits. | Sep 27 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Get some exposure. Make people consider what smartphone they want to buy. If the company will be around to support it well enough. | Sep 27 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | It only lets you do 2 x-posts every 10 minutes. | Sep 27 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | So I have to wait 5 before I post it in Android. | Sep 27 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Could you link to this on TuxMachines. | Sep 27 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Keeps Lenovo in the news. Let's people know wht's going on. | Sep 27 01:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780551816060821504 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft, Lenovo Accused Of Blocking Linux On Signature | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition PCs https://t.co/fo7d1fwWEW (techfrag.com) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techfrag.com | Lenovo Accused Of Blocking Linux On Signature Edition PCs | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780559410104074240 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.3 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'security things in Linux v4.3' | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780559484963921924 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.3 https://t.co/eQPg4BmjRz | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.3 « codeblog | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560084476637184 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Important Bug Fixes https://t.co/7Aly2H5yZ0 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with Important Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560085835665408 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updated Drivers https://t.co/8O2M8AdTgr | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560088461217792 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top Web Browsers for Linux https://t.co/HCTszEbFky | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top Web Browsers for Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/54ntdw/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 27 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : Android | Sep 27 01:11 | |
| DaemonFC | There we go. In /r/android now. | Sep 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560089555963905 | Sep 27 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest | Sep 27 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSSL Vulnerabilities https://t.co/sNTS65Om9v | Sep 27 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest OpenSSL Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560090969452545 | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the GNOME 3.22 Desktop https://t.co/ptvL7vUF2Z | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with the GNOME 3.22 Desktop | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560146476990464 | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This is what the Chromecast Ultra will look like | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fdE8Ns4jyX (www.androidauthority.com) | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | This is what the Chromecast Ultra will look like - Android Authority | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560505643667456 | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Roku Express, Roku Premiere, and Roku Ultra announced, | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | starting at $29.99 https://t.co/Do2v3YiAno | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Roku Express, Roku Premiere, and Roku Ultra announced, starting at $29.99 | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8...' | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4...' | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| MinceR | 27 021149 < DaemonFC> There we go. In /r/android now. | Sep 27 01:14 |
| MinceR | already [removed] | Sep 27 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Works for me. | Sep 27 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Someone even voted it up. | Sep 27 01:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, i did | Sep 27 01:16 |
| MinceR | so i guess this is some sort of shadowbanning, yet again | Sep 27 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54nuwr/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 27 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : linux | Sep 27 01:22 | |
| DaemonFC | shadow banning? | Sep 27 01:22 |
| MinceR | reddit was guilty of it before | Sep 27 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Sep 27 01:23 |
| MinceR | apparently reddit is a cesspit of shadowbans, lies, corporate meddling and crybullies, not a discussion forum | Sep 27 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | I just saw it in Edge where I was not logged in. | Sep 27 01:23 |
| MinceR | oh, forgot the corporate shills. | Sep 27 01:23 |
| MinceR | have you shift-reloaded? | Sep 27 01:23 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 01:25 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, something like that re reddit | Sep 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | I think it was like this before the Con Synasty | Sep 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | The Dynasty made them a little more nasty | Sep 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | and ousted CEO increased censorship, that's why voat now exists | Sep 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | voat sounds like vomit | Sep 27 01:26 |
| MinceR | loading it on other browsers, including another machine (neither of which i'm logged on in) also shows the port on r/android as [removed] | Sep 27 01:27 |
| MinceR | s/port/post/ | Sep 27 01:27 |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-78-151-242-77.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 01:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo | Sep 27 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Looking for tech-support, app recommendations, or device recommendations? Looking to root your phone, update/upgrade your phone, sell your phone, maintain your device, and more? Check out the wiki page! | Sep 27 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Note that /r/android filters ALL self-posts immediately after posting, so your post will NOT show up in /new. Fear not, however, as a moderator will come by to approve or remove your post. This can take up to 3 hours, so be patient! If your post is removed, then you will either receive a private message or your post will be flaired with the removal reason, so check before messaging us! If you do not see any action on your post within three | Sep 27 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | hours, then feel free to message the mods using the sidebar link at the bottom. | Sep 27 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Please be aware of our rules. If your post violates any of these rules, it will not be approved. Even if you ask kindly. Thanks, and have a good day! | Sep 27 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. | Sep 27 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I guess I'll just post it again. I deleted it figuring it ws a shadow ban. | Sep 27 01:30 |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 01:30 | |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-92-26-242-181.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 01:30 | |
| <--arossdotme-planb has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 01:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the...' | Sep 27 01:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works,...' | Sep 27 01:35 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/26/uber-self-driving-passengers-pittsburgh-injury-death-waiver?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews#link_time=1474922408 | Sep 27 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Passengers in Uber's self-driving cars waived right to sue for injury or death | Technology | The Guardian | Sep 27 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dq0sHcfJm0i-M8M0Tl3IF8SQ7W6PM&q=lenovo&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjts6yjp67PAhVF5iYKHc-BAZsQqgIIKjAA | Sep 27 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.google.com | Lenovo undergoes another big layoff... | Sep 27 01:38 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54nuwr/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 27 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : linux | Sep 27 01:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @PaulMeeke followed @tuxmachines | Sep 27 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780568873028481024 | Sep 27 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SODIMM-style i.MX7 COM features dual GbE, WiFi/BT, eMMC | Sep 27 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/99GsIRRzaa (hackerboards.com) | Sep 27 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | SODIMM-style i.MX7 COM features dual GbE, WiFi/BT, eMMC | Sep 27 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780569397396140032 | Sep 27 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, | Sep 27 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updated Drivers https://t.co/rR93aoewsv | Sep 27 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 27 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, Updated Drivers | Sep 27 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780569676774576128 | Sep 27 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top Web Browsers for Linux https://t.co/iPUZ8kJs4l | Sep 27 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.datamation.com) | Sep 27 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top Web Browsers for Linux - Datamation | Sep 27 01:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780570038671663105 | Sep 27 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest | Sep 27 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSSL Vulnerabilities https://t.co/WIE9jG6xN5 | Sep 27 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Sep 27 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest OpenSSL Vulnerabilities | Sep 27 01:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780570333527015424 | Sep 27 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with | Sep 27 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the GNOME 3.22 Desktop https://t.co/4h7asqC59r | Sep 27 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 27 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with the GNOME 3.22 Desktop | Sep 27 01:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780571588659933184 | Sep 27 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | hackmud, a cyberpunk themed text-based hacking simulator | Sep 27 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | is now out with Linux support https://t.co/AdCfkmGUMW | Sep 27 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 27 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/hackmud-a-cyberpunk-themed-text-based-hacking-simulator-is-now-out-with-linux-support.8180 ) | Sep 27 02:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4...' | Sep 27 02:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the...' | Sep 27 02:03 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.businessinsider.com/pay-tv-prices-up-40-from-5-years-ago-2016-9 | Sep 27 02:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Pay TV prices up 40% from 5 years ago - Business Insider | Sep 27 02:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Could just watch pirate streaming sites for free. | Sep 27 02:08 |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-78-151-242-11.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 02:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works,...' | Sep 27 02:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780574292996087808 | Sep 27 02:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation and Linux https://t.co/rR3rvPSQLu | Sep 27 02:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 02:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 02:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 27 02:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780574294568906752 | Sep 27 02:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lenovo Anti-Linux, Layoffs, and Openwashing | Sep 27 02:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qHv5idsYh7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 02:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 02:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo Anti-Linux, Layoffs, and Openwashing | Tux Machines | Sep 27 02:30 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 02:44 | |
| ---_dmb_ is now known as dblaber | Sep 27 02:47 | |
| DaemonFC | https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/26/lenovos-gutting-of-motorola-is-nearly-complete/ | Sep 27 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lenovo’s gutting of Motorola is nearly complete | TechCrunch | Sep 27 02:50 | |
| DaemonFC | I commented: | Sep 27 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has ruined both brands. Their Yoga PCs are a complete disgrace. IBM never would have locked Linux out of their Thinkpad lineup they way that Lenovo conspired with Microsoft to do with their laptops. Lenovo has developed a reputation for themselves as the company of Superfish and the BIOS that reinstalled crapware over and over. Their stock is down 2/3rds from last year. You'd have about 35 cents left for every dollar you invested in | Sep 27 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | it. People are onto them. Microsoft has dug into Lenovo like a predatory wasp taking over an ant and forcing it back to the nest to lay its eggs. I'm not surprised about what is going on with Motorola at all. | Sep 27 02:51 |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-78-151-242-11.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 03:01 | |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-84-13-235-233.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 03:05 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 03:08 | |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-78-151-242-106.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 03:10 | |
| <--arossdotme-planb has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 03:12 | |
| -->kyrios (~quassel@adsl-88.37.6.9.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 03:12 | |
| <--KyriosBrastianos has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 03:13 | |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 03:13 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 27 03:16 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 03:16 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 03:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780580201122111488 | Sep 27 03:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improving Fuzzing Tools for More Efficient Kernel Testing | Sep 27 03:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ddg1uNUacR (www.linux.com) | Sep 27 03:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 03:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Improving Fuzzing Tools for More Efficient Kernel Testing | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 27 03:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @DCPrinceRoman favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 27 03:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 27 03:22 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I posted the Lenovo problem to bug reports to Ubuntu and Fedora. | Sep 27 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully they can get something worked out. | Sep 27 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully they can get something worked out. | Sep 27 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like that's the one that will be doing the best | Sep 27 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/54nwz0/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 27 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : Android | Sep 27 03:47 | |
| DaemonFC | +20 | Sep 27 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]AmalShookup [+1] [score hidden] 7 minutes ago | Sep 27 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | Can confirm, was one of the engineers impacted :( | Sep 27 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreplied | Sep 27 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 27 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | Can you give us any additional information or is this NDA or something? Don't get yourself in trouble though. I hope you find an employer that values you. :( | Sep 27 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Two former Lenovo employees that got their pink slips found my post and commented. | Sep 27 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, from AmalShookup [+1] via /r/Android sent just now | Sep 27 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | show parent | Sep 27 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | Not much to add to it really. Just that no management had any input on who was let go, all decisions were made on the vp level. So they had no idea how good or bad the people they made decisions on | Sep 27 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 27 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | Wow! So the suits just indiscriminately fired people..... That kind of tells us what was going on in there. | Sep 27 04:07 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 27 04:15 |
| schestowitz | just quoted you on a few things | Sep 27 04:15 |
| schestowitz | I just tweeted about the Debates | Sep 27 04:17 |
| schestowitz | and got over 70,000 twitter impressions for it in just 2 hours | Sep 27 04:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kyssa_min_rov/status/780578744356446210 https://twitter.com/kyssa_min_rov/status/780579109697097728 | Sep 27 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kyssa_min_rov: @schestowitz Says another zombie from Hillary Camp none of you can think for yourself @TwitterMoments | Sep 27 04:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kyssa_min_rov: @schestowitz you'll be the first one in line for tax cuts when Trump is president @TwitterMoments | Sep 27 04:19 | |
| schestowitz | I'm not from the US | Sep 27 04:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Helensabin1/status/780585183275737089 | Sep 27 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Helensabin1: @schestowitz @DrJillStein We need TRUMP to bring back jobs, decrease taxes for all, and remove illegals to give jobs to Americans. | Sep 27 04:20 | |
| schestowitz | hehe: https://twitter.com/Crow26Darkness/status/780587525307936770 | Sep 27 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Crow26Darkness: @schestowitz Hillary Clinton is connected to elite families Rothschild & Rockefeller families. Hillary's BFF is Lynn Forester de Rothschild. | Sep 27 04:20 | |
| schestowitz | those fools who vote for the Establishment parties... bless em | Sep 27 04:20 |
| schestowitz | they think things will improve for the better this way | Sep 27 04:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dukeblu85/status/780591015300300800 https://twitter.com/shawneily/status/780592103034281984 https://twitter.com/bernfor/status/780592246735396864 | Sep 27 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dukeblu85: .@schestowitz @wikileaks Look up definition of "straw man", dope. | Sep 27 04:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@shawneily: @schestowitz @wikileaks Or she is a felon and should be held accountable??!?!...... Idiot. | Sep 27 04:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bernfor: @schestowitz @wikileaks Wrong. Her paid trolls swarm these tweets. | Sep 27 04:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jayviemortel1/status/780595896178253824 | Sep 27 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jayviemortel1: Damn. https://t.co/PBrHVMGxKr | Sep 27 04:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #clinton who uses #microsoft #windows with back doors for top secret stuff? https://t.co/1wB4Y0qrnz | Sep 27 04:22 | |
| schestowitz | very inane comments | Sep 27 04:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sda729/status/780597072093257728 https://twitter.com/connienovak1972/status/780597134081060864 | Sep 27 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sda729: @schestowitz @GreenPartyUS #GlobalDemilitarization | Sep 27 04:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@connienovak1972: @schestowitz @DrJillStein thank you! I thought I was the only one who thinks this is a concern! We are swallowing up the earth w/out regard | Sep 27 04:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PeterPyke/status/780598883076276224 | Sep 27 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PeterPyke: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Yes. | Sep 27 04:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/780599779873198080 | Sep 27 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz @wikileaks This was mud fight. One reveled in it, the other pretended she was above it. Both came out mud-covered! | Sep 27 04:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MrFredLexow/status/780600368149499904 https://twitter.com/GoldenOxen/status/780600740288921603 | Sep 27 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MrFredLexow: @schestowitz @wikileaks good point | Sep 27 04:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GoldenOxen: @schestowitz @wikileaks I was disappointed. | Sep 27 04:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AngelP143/status/780603083692896257 | Sep 27 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AngelP143: Hell No.He doesn't have 2 release. I hope he doesn't share & bleach bits records. Hill CRIMINALLY deleted & used bl… https://t.co/yyQxd7ngM3 | Sep 27 04:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AngelP143: Hell No.He doesn't have 2 release. I hope he doesn't share & bleach bits records. Hill CRIMINALLY deleted & used bl… https://t.co/yyQxd7ngM3 | Sep 27 04:24 | |
| <--arossdotme-planb has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 27 04:26 | |
| cubexyz | ok, first part of conversion from 720p is done... it took 36 hours | Sep 27 04:36 |
| cubexyz | probably another 12 hours for part 2 | Sep 27 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Hillary went on Between Two Ferns. | Sep 27 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | This election is more like Between Two Felons | Sep 27 05:03 |
| cubexyz | Feel the Bern! :) | Sep 27 05:06 |
| <--dblaber has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 05:07 | |
| cubexyz | or not | Sep 27 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.itwire.com/home-it/74935-veteran-windows-journo-slams-microsoft-over-surface-pro-issues.html | Sep 27 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Veteran Windows journo slams Microsoft over Surface Pro issues | Sep 27 05:12 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Could be Microsoft's old tactic of breaking old products to prod people to upgrade, but I doubt it. These are only a little under 2 years old. | Sep 27 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/54owyb/ed_bott_shame_on_microsoft_for_leaving_surface/ | Sep 27 05:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Ed Bott: Shame on Microsoft for Leaving Surface Pro (3) Customers in the Dark (about severe battery drain issue) : Surface | Sep 27 05:22 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 05:24 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-091-096-238-183.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 05:26 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, | Sep 27 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 27 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | The open source community will probably keep the Moto phones going for a long time with unofficial ROMs regardless of what LOL NO VO does with Motorola now that they have fired everyone. | Sep 27 05:35 |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 05:45 | |
| cubexyz | just say no to lenovo :) | Sep 27 06:04 |
| cubexyz | Surface Pro isn't even on the radar | Sep 27 06:05 |
| cubexyz | you do _not_ want a computer completely designed by Microsoft | Sep 27 06:06 |
| cubexyz | I don't feel to favourable towards AMI either | Sep 27 06:07 |
| cubexyz | s/to/too/ | Sep 27 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://redmondmag.com/articles/2016/10/01/surface-pro-customers-in-the-dark.aspx | Sep 27 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shame on Microsoft for Leaving Surface Pro Customers in the Dark -- Redmondmag.com | Sep 27 06:09 | |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Looks like I could have done worse. MS pushed out a broken update to the Surface Pro 3 that reduced runtime on a charge from 6 hours to 20-30 minutes. | Sep 27 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | And the support forum post grew to 100 pages and MS has barely acknowledged it. | Sep 27 06:10 |
| cubexyz | don't buy surface pro for sure... you're sending $$$ to M$ | Sep 27 06:13 |
| cubexyz | unless you get one for free or something | Sep 27 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz schestowitz from what I hear now, the Surface Pro 3 battery issue was because there were two suppliers for the battery. When MS issued the patch for the first one, it screwed up the other one. | Sep 27 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Lenovo stock was a in a fall until they announced the sackings from Motorola. | Sep 27 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | Gotta wonder about the timing | Sep 27 06:20 |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 06:20 | |
| cubexyz | people aren't buying computers as often | Sep 27 06:21 |
| cubexyz | 52 week range is $11.31 to $22.44 | Sep 27 06:25 |
| cubexyz | currently at $13.10 US | Sep 27 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, It stopped the freefall and returned it to where it was before the Linux stories started sinking in. | Sep 27 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | People don't buy computers as often because they aren't getting faster at the same rate that they used to. | Sep 27 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | gr | Sep 27 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/26/openssl_patches_last_weeks_patch/ | Sep 27 06:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Patch AGAIN: OpenSSL security fixes now need their own security fixes • The Register | Sep 27 06:40 | |
| DaemonFC | Too many programs still using this. LibreSSL is looking a lot better. | Sep 27 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | Embarrassing enough that trolls and clueless news sites say that every bug that happens in an open source project is a "Linux bug". | Sep 27 06:45 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 06:46 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Quit: Leaving...) | Sep 27 07:05 | |
| DaemonFC | The Moto M will launch with Microsoft crapware. | Sep 27 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/54pdkr/microsoft_and_lenovo_sign_patent_licensing_deal/ | Sep 27 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft and Lenovo sign "patent licensing" deal that involves pre-installing Microsoft bloatware on future Lenovo phones. [x-post from /r/android] : technology | Sep 27 07:47 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 08:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/780670420462759936 | Sep 27 08:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, | Sep 27 08:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk Updated Drivers https://t.co/8O2M8AdTgr | Sep 27 08:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 08:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 08:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 08:28 | |
| schestowitz | [07:47] <DaemonFC> https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/54pdkr/microsoft_and_lenovo_sign_patent_licensing_deal/ | Sep 27 10:04 |
| schestowitz | Is this news? | Sep 27 10:04 |
| schestowitz | I can't see a link | Sep 27 10:04 |
| schestowitz | it's self referential | Sep 27 10:05 |
| schestowitz | Oh, a month ago | Sep 27 10:05 |
| schestowitz | https://news.microsoft.com/2016/08/22/lenovo-and-microsoft-deepen-strategic-ties-across-devices/ | Sep 27 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.microsoft.com | Lenovo and Microsoft deepen strategic ties across devices | News Center | Sep 27 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | Did I miss it? Let me check... | Sep 27 10:06 |
| schestowitz | Ah, I did cover it | Sep 27 10:06 |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 10:08 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-253-216.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 10:08 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/02/20/lenovo-superfish/ http://techrights.org/2007/05/12/lenovo-novell/ http://techrights.org/2008/01/15/samsung-patent-lenovo-sled/ http://techrights.org/2015/08/13/lenovo-scapegoating/ | Sep 27 10:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lenovo’s Superfish Scandal is Spyware on Top of Spyware (Microsoft Windows), the Problem is Inherently Proprietary Software | Techrights | Sep 27 10:08 | |
| schestowitz | and lastly: http://techrights.org/2016/08/23/microsoft-extorts-lenovo-and-motorola/ | Sep 27 10:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Does the Lenovo-Microsoft Deal Affect Novell’s SUSE? | Techrights | Sep 27 10:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Samsung is Down, Lenovo Disappoints with ‘Microsoft Tax’ | Techrights | Sep 27 10:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Peter Writes About Malicious Microsoft Antifeatures, Tries to Blame Lenovo and Succeeds | Techrights | Sep 27 10:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Gives Microsoft (Paid-for) Keynote Position While Microsoft Extorts (With Patents) Lenovo and Motorola Over Linux Use | Techrights | Sep 27 10:09 | |
| cubexyz | M$ can't beat Google | Sep 27 10:15 |
| cubexyz | chromebook + coreboot == MIcrosoft defeat | Sep 27 10:16 |
| cubexyz | and tons of people loath windows 10 | Sep 27 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/780670436816351232 | Sep 27 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest | Sep 27 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk OpenSSL Vulnerabilities https://t.co/sNTS65Om9v | Sep 27 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest OpenSSL Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines | Sep 27 10:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780699849989689344 | Sep 27 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux State Of AMD's Zen x86 Memory Encryption | Sep 27 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8YZ14IP38A (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 27 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Linux State Of AMD's Zen x86 Memory Encryption - Phoronix | Sep 27 10:26 | |
| <--kyrios has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 10:26 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 10:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'The Linux State Of AMD's Zen x86 Memory...' | Sep 27 10:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780700184414130176 | Sep 27 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | XOrg's GLAMOR 2D Performance Continues To Be Tuned | Sep 27 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uKVSLeinfR (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 27 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-X.Org's GLAMOR 2D Performance Continues To Be Tuned - Phoronix | Sep 27 10:30 | |
| Tervy | not sure if this has been posted yet or if the site is trustworthy but .. https://techraptor.net/content/youtube-changes-youtube-heroes-video-stealthily any opinions from this (i might be late for these news) | Sep 27 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techraptor.net | YouTube Changes YouTube Heroes Video Stealthily - TechRaptor | Sep 27 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780701171371667456 | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 26 Linux OS to Ship with OpenSSL 1.1.0 by Default | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Better Security https://t.co/HKL0FB0FbG | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 26 Linux OS to Ship with OpenSSL 1.1.0 by Default for Better Security | Sep 27 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780702644977471488 | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 6 open source fitness apps for Android | Sep 27 10:37 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: true... | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BvzZote5rD (opensource.com) "all licensed | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | under the GPLv3" | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 open source fitness apps for Android | Opensource.com | Sep 27 10:37 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: now they mix chromos with android, reportedly | Sep 27 10:37 |
| schestowitz | they call it "andromeda | Sep 27 10:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TrainWithPj favourited '6 open source fitness apps for Android ...' | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780703521784168448 | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Aaeon’s Linux-friendly “EMB-Q170C” Mini-ITX board..." | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NsBt1Nn7aV (hackerboards.com) | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | NAS-targeted Skylake Mini-ITX loads up on SATA, GbE, PCIe | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780703810595553280 | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | design https://t.co/i93ZhzJNJD (hackerboards.com) | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open design | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780705314698104832 | Sep 27 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 https://t.co/186yrssEcn | Sep 27 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (nwrickert2.wordpress.com) | Sep 27 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 26 Linux OS to Ship with OpenSSL...' | Sep 27 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nwrickert2.wordpress.com | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 | Thoughts on computing | Sep 27 10:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780705967021449216 | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0 https://t.co/6Uxq3X9h6L | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (distrowatch.com) | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719962151276544 | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/8JsLDpudAn | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719963254300673 | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | design https://t.co/nBC1b1sefz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open design | Tux Machines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719964239958017 | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unimpressive Yakkety Yak, Plasma 5 Issues in Leap | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JueBnAc6Nz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unimpressive Yakkety Yak, Plasma 5 Issues in Leap | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719965259206657 | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tEqFCbuAMu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719966358077442 | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0 https://t.co/81tMXuT5uY | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0 | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| cubexyz | a 4+ hour 720p video doesn't fit on a DVD | Sep 27 12:39 |
| cubexyz | not too surprising really | Sep 27 12:39 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:44 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 27 12:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736447577935872 | Sep 27 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GE, Bosch and open source could bring more IoT tools | Sep 27 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Jx1yr4E79d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GE, Bosch and open source could bring more IoT tools | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736449389801472 | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Red Hat is making money on the public cloud with a | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | hybrid approach https://t.co/0VH2CKRkvH | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Red Hat is making money on the public cloud with a hybrid approach | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736450656477186 | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone https://t.co/1KLivnLUJE | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736452313223168 | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A quick introduction to Audacity for teachers | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SJFEQVPGAS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A quick introduction to Audacity for teachers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736453428948992 | Sep 27 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LLVM News https://t.co/1p7lKemkvx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM News | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:57 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:59 | |
| <--sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 13:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780738186158956544 | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 27/9/2016: Lenovo Layoffs, OPNFV Third Software | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release https://t.co/k8vmmHz2zE (techrights.org) | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/9/2016: Lenovo Layoffs, OPNFV Third Software Release | Techrights | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780740260628144128 | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 25 Alpha and processing. https://t.co/QgkusVx908 | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (catalin-festila.blogspot.com) | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-catalin-festila.blogspot.com | About me and my life ...: Fedora 25 Alpha and processing. | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| -->sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/780740268844847104 | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 27/9/2016: Lenovo Layoffs, OPNFV Third Software | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Release https://t.co/k8vmmHz2zE (techrights.org) | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780740547346563072 | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chrome for Android will let you download entire web pages | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and use less data for video https://t.co/3uplMG9xqN | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Chrome for Android will let you download entire web pages and use less data for video - The Verge | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780740773637750784 | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BlackBerry's Unannounced DTEK60 Android Smartphone | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Surfaced In FCC Filing https://t.co/Af8nREWwEI | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.ibtimes.com) | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | BlackBerry's Unannounced DTEK60 Android Smartphone Surfaced In FCC Filing | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/grautone/status/780748865217495040 | Sep 27 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@grautone: @schestowitz because Libs & Greens lack the 15% of vote to be considered legitimate contenders. | Sep 27 13:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/780754480035991552 | Sep 27 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz @SiliconANGLE what a pile of bs. With Hadoop, Spark etc open source is doing great. Maybe it's just hard to keep up? | Sep 27 14:05 | |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:08 | |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:17 | |
| <--arossdotme-planb has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 14:18 | |
| -->daemol (~daemol@117.196.154.1) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:34 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 14:49 | |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:07 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 27 16:08 |
| schestowitz | hi | Sep 27 16:11 |
| MinceR | http://boingboing.net/2016/09/26/demand-that-hp-make-amends-for.html | Sep 27 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Demand that HP make amends for its self-destructing printers [SIGN AND SHARE!] / Boing Boing | Sep 27 16:13 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | schestowitzr razielle_tzu MinceR my Tizen R 1 has come | Sep 27 16:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Z 1 | Sep 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | 27 113749 < schestowitz> they call it "andromeda | Sep 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | the andromeda strain? :> | Sep 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | SebthreeBQM10HD: my condolences | Sep 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | won't be nice when your calls get dropped because of systemd or kdbus :> | Sep 27 16:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | MinceR, they use system d ? | Sep 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | afaik tizen uses both | Sep 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | probably pulseaudio too | Sep 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | but if it gives you a shell, you can probably find out | Sep 27 16:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | uhmm most distors use pulse audio | Sep 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | and so they all get the problems with it | Sep 27 16:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | system d work fine or me on things I ussed it | Sep 27 16:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and pus audio has been fine since some itme after 2008 or mostly | Sep 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's what some of them say | Sep 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | others explain the weird ways it fucks up things | Sep 27 16:16 |
| cubexyz | I got a room full of non-pulseaudio machines :) | Sep 27 16:16 |
| cubexyz | get that Sun working and you'll have one too | Sep 27 16:18 |
| cubexyz | did you know that netconfig will clobber /etc/hosts? Very annoying | Sep 27 16:20 |
| cubexyz | overwrote /etc/resolv.conf also | Sep 27 16:22 |
| -->tyreld (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Libby_Weed/status/780787188157984768 | Sep 27 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Libby_Weed: @schestowitz @wikileaks Jill Stein is a better option | Sep 27 16:27 | |
| cubexyz | learned a bit about dhcpcd today | Sep 27 17:00 |
| cubexyz | DHCP client daemon | Sep 27 17:00 |
| cubexyz | not actually sure how quasijarus does it | Sep 27 17:05 |
| cubexyz | on FC1 it's different also... it uses dhclient | Sep 27 17:14 |
| cubexyz | old(ish) openbsd is the same | Sep 27 17:15 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/XQ0Xy | Sep 27 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best tweet so far of this debate night - Album on Imgur | Sep 27 17:17 | |
| XRevan86 | debate night? | Sep 27 17:18 |
| cubexyz | :) | Sep 27 17:19 |
| MinceR | the candidates of the two arms of the Megacorporate Party debated yesterday, i think | Sep 27 17:19 |
| XRevan86 | But there are four candidates. | Sep 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | probably more | Sep 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | but those are not from the Megacorporate Party | Sep 27 17:20 |
| cubexyz | so just trump and clinton and no one else? | Sep 27 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016 | Sep 27 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United States presidential election, 2016 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 27 17:20 | |
| XRevan86 | five* | Sep 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 27 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | six* | Sep 27 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | overlooked the sixth | Sep 27 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | Is that even legal? Making presidential debates but exclusive? | Sep 27 17:21 |
| cubexyz | I think it goes all the way back to Nixon vs Kennedy | Sep 27 17:22 |
| cubexyz | if I recall correctly | Sep 27 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Democracy, is in fact, FAKE/Democracy, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, FAKE plus Democracy. | Sep 27 17:27 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 17:31 | |
| -->Cookie`_ (~cookie@4.86.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--Cookie` has quit (Disconnected by services) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/robinforsenator/status/780806272350388224 | Sep 27 17:37 |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--Researcher- has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| -->Firre (~Firee@a91-156-174-20.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--daemol has quit (Ping timeout: 273 seconds) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--tyreld has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| ---Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 17:37:26 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 17:37:53 2016 | ||
| -->You are now talking on #techrights | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights is TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| -->sheepbat (~lev3k@149.255.33.155) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:37 | |
| <--Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| -->acer-box__ (~acer-box@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| -->Researcher-- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| -->amarsh04_ (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| <--MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| <--acer-box__ has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| -->acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-253-216.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| ---Firre is now known as Firee | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| <--Tervy has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| <--acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| ---Researcher-- is now known as Researcher- | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| <--balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| -->MinceR (~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/robinforsenator/status/780806272350388224 | Sep 27 17:38 |
| -->balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:40 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 17:41 | |
| <--razielle_tzu has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 17:41 | |
| -->razielle_tzu (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:41 | |
| -->TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@mail.copilotco.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Sep 27 17:41 |
| ---razielle_tzu is now known as Guest9267 | Sep 27 17:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/robinforsenator/status/780806272350388224 | Sep 27 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@robinforsenator: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @ArnMenconi Gratitude. This is an international movement! Please DM me so we can connect our dots across the pond. | Sep 27 17:41 | |
| ---Guest9267 is now known as raziel_tzu | Sep 27 17:42 | |
| -->daemol (~daemol@117.196.154.1) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:42 | |
| -->Tervy (Tervy@laamaperhe.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:44 | |
| Messaging Indicator 0.3.11 plugin unloaded. | Sep 27 17:51 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 17:51:41 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 17:52:08 2016 | ||
| -->You are now talking on #techrights | Sep 27 17:52 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights is TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 27 17:52 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 27 17:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | [17:41] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/robinforsenator/status/780806272350388224 | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:47] <cubexyz> ah now it's clearer... dhcp didn't arrive until 1993 | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:47] <cubexyz> so 4.3BSD would have been pre-dhcp era | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:49] <r_schestowitz> test | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | DDOS again, I guess | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | so better not say anything till it's over | Sep 27 17:52 |
| -->sheepbat (~lev3k@149.255.33.155) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| Messaging Indicator 0.3.11 plugin unloaded. | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 17:54:10 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 17:54:45 2016 | ||
| -->You are now talking on #techrights | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights is TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:56 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| -->cmdshftn_ (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| -->Firre (~Firee@a91-156-174-20.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| -->acer-box______ (~acer-box@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| <--acer-box______ has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| -->acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| <--acer-box____ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| <--amarsh04__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| <--schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| ---Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 18:11:46 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 18:12:08 2016 | ||
| -->You are now talking on #techrights | Sep 27 18:12 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights is TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 27 18:12 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 27 18:12 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:12 | |
| <--daemol has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 18:12 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:14 | |
| -->TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@mail.copilotco.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Sep 27 18:14 |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:17 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:21 | |
| <--cmdshftn_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:21 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:21 | |
| <--XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 18:22 | |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 18:22 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 18:22 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:22 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:23 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:23 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780809722962337792 | Sep 27 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/eBQjQRm6Dj | Sep 27 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 18:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 27 18:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/eBQjQRm6Dj' | Sep 27 18:25 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-253-216.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:28 | |
| -->XFaCE (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:29 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| <--r_schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| -->r_schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| <--sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | still ddos... | Sep 27 18:33 |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 18:34 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:34 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/26/video-claiming-drilling-into-iphone-7-reveal-hidden-headphone-port-goes-viral | Sep 27 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Video claiming drilling into iPhone 7 will reveal hidden headphone port goes viral | Technology | The Guardian | Sep 27 18:37 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: ^ | Sep 27 18:37 |
| -->sheepbat (~lev3k@149.255.33.155) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:38 | |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 27 18:40 |
| r_schestowitz | old: | Sep 27 18:41 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.gnupg.org/faq/gnupg-faq.html#please_use_ecc | Sep 27 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnupg.org | GnuPG Frequently Asked Questions | Sep 27 18:41 | |
| <--Emchan has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 19:01 | |
| -->razielle_tzu (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:01 | |
| ---razielle_tzu is now known as Guest39926 | Sep 27 19:01 | |
| ---Guest39926 is now known as raziel_tzu | Sep 27 19:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: I think you gave me a link about it before | Sep 27 19:06 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 27 19:07 |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 19:10 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 19:10 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tqH-Un9SFU | Sep 27 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7 - YouTube | Sep 27 19:10 | |
| <--Researcher- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 19:11 | |
| -->Researcher- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:11 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:13 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780830419096920064 | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu’s OpenStack on IBM’s Big Iron | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JQoM3L2dR0 (windowsitpro.com) | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | Ubuntu’s OpenStack on IBM’s Big Iron | Cloud content from Windows IT Pro | Sep 27 19:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780831848310181889 | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unsafe at any clock speed: Linux kernel security needs a | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rethink https://t.co/6iW9nsdYcy (arstechnica.co.uk) | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Unsafe at any clock speed: Linux kernel security needs a rethink | Ars Technica UK | Sep 27 19:16 | |
| -->Researcher-- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:21 | |
| <--Researcher- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 19:21 | |
| ---Researcher-- is now known as Researcher- | Sep 27 19:21 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DeadlinesDirect/status/780821673213779968 | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780833432670707712 | Sep 27 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DeadlinesDirect: #Finland makes a push for military intel meta data laws, looks like European trend 2day?! #Switzerland #nsa #privacy https://t.co/kpcivqPmTT | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone https://t.co/B2cISEj8pt | Sep 27 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Military pressing for broader surveillance mandate https://t.co/JKjAc10REj will finland use #russia and #putin to sell this? | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780833635029118977 | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 24 -- The Best Distro for DevOps? | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7MdEfbF9PO (www.linux.com) | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 -- The Best Distro for DevOps? | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780834185472724993 | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Open Source Hardware for Surveillance of Things | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WVpZCZZA6B (www.linux.com) | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux and Open Source Hardware for IoT | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 27 19:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780835342245097475 | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘revolution’ https://t.co/wsDXqrK3Ar | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio ‘revolution’ • The Register | Sep 27 19:25 | |
| MinceR | The Best Distro For Buzzword(tm)! | Sep 27 19:27 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 19:29 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:30 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/WyGFMNi.gifv | Sep 27 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Sep 27 19:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent...' | Sep 27 19:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780836788663414784 | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Farabel', a turn based strategy game is officially | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | coming to Linux after a days work https://t.co/u5knZtHwGK | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 27 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/farabel-a-turn-based-strategy-game-is-officially-coming-to-linux-after-a-days-work.8184 ) | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780837012836323330 | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | -The Talos Principle now renders correctly in 'radv', the | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source AMD Vulkan driver https://t.co/brD5zjmCr8 | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 27 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-talos-principle-now-renders-correctly-in-radv-the-open-source-amd-vulkan-driver.8186 ) | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780837650475417600 | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | There Are Around 2,000 Steam Linux Games Available | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NHrizuACTC (www.phoronix.com) S2,500? | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hp89IDGhYD (error) | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-There Are Around 2,000 Steam Linux Games Available - Phoronix | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/steam-now-has-above-2500-linux-steamos-games-available.8188 ) | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/g7msfQB.png | Sep 27 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840317595553792 | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proxmox VE 4.3 released https://t.co/bV5C5PDqkP | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.proxmox.com) | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proxmox VE 4.3 released | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840821629284352 | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Free Today: September Issue of Linux Journal (Retail | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | value: $5.99) https://t.co/J1pABA6unB | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Free Today: September Issue of Linux Journal (Retail value: $5.99) | Linux Journal | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840972993253376 | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | nginx https://t.co/Sjxy3xVrya (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | nginx | Tux Machines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840974020784128 | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘revolution’ https://t.co/HLY3VT6Jqz | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio ‘revolution’ | Tux Machines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: context? | Sep 27 19:46 |
| MinceR | there's not much of it | Sep 27 19:47 |
| MinceR | it's a navigation thing between pages of some website | Sep 27 19:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840975664943104 | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/3HRIbyFJ6A | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840976696811520 | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/S5PZxFf2qD | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840977984425985 | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proxmox VE 4.3 released https://t.co/qTWu617pDe | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE 4.3 released | Tux Machines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/jlA04Zn | Sep 27 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yes I'd like 0 of your finest cases. - Imgur | Sep 27 20:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nebrgenius/status/780847676690567168 | Sep 27 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nebrgenius: Me. https://t.co/dV9Grb3rgj | Sep 27 20:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks Missing options; who was impressed by neither? | Sep 27 20:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: cheers | Sep 27 20:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 27 20:22 |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:26 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:27 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:27 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:30 | |
| <--localh0st has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 20:34 | |
| -->localh0st (~lclhst@s5.linuxpl.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:35 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 20:35 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/QI79z | Sep 27 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It takes a great comedian to make a well-crafted accurate science joke. - Album on Imgur | Sep 27 20:35 | |
| <--cubexyz has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:36 | |
| -->cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:36 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:36 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@107.170.171.17) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:37 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 20:37 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@unaffiliated/mrpps) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:37 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This should be obvious. | Sep 27 20:40 |
| <--MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 20:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DeadSuperHero/status/780854756528926720 | Sep 27 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DeadSuperHero: @schestowitz Doug Stanhope is a god in human form. | Sep 27 20:42 | |
| -->MinceR (~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:42 | |
| -->dipper_s_ (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:43 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 20:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/DeadSuperHero/status/780854756528926720 | Sep 27 20:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 27 20:44 |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:44 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:45 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:45 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Excess Flood) | Sep 27 20:45 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@107.170.171.17) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:45 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@unaffiliated/mrpps) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| <--dipper_s_ has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| MinceR | http://p.coldline.hu/2016/09/27/2339849-20160927-phbXpP.png | Sep 27 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'p.coldline.hu' ( status 0 @ http://p.coldline.hu/2016/09/27/2339849-20160927-phbXpP.png ) | Sep 27 20:47 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:48 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/1mJuStSay1nG/status/780859803509858304 | Sep 27 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@1mJuStSay1nG: @schestowitz @rozmcdermott Next it's the SYD (The Screw You Deal) | Sep 27 21:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/780859999241248768 | Sep 27 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @ArsTechnicaUK @GlynnMoody too bad you did not mention Stjerna paper. And Council meeting in 2 days. | Sep 27 21:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | You mean Glyn, right? As I did mention the paper twice... | Sep 27 21:02 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: good one | Sep 27 21:04 |
| ---raziel_tzu is now known as razielle_tzu | Sep 27 21:04 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:16 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/wMzYsfE.gifv | Sep 27 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Sep 27 21:20 | |
| <--ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 21:22 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo forum mods | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | from mardward2015 sent 12 hours ago | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | I think there is definitely a Microsoft / Lenovo conspiracy. One of the mods who are removing and editing unwanted posts on Lenovo forum ( username - Bugbatter ) has a MVP logo sign next to his name - Microsoft Most Valued Professional. From a MS official site: " the Microsoft MVP Award is our way of saying Thanks! to outstanding community leaders" , " They also have a very close relationship with | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | the local Microsoft teams in their area, who are there to support and empower MVPs to address needs and opportunities in the local ecosystem." etc. Basically a Microsoft shill | Sep 27 21:23 |
| -->ohama (ohama@cicolina.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| DaemonFC | re: Lenovo forum mods | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | to mardward2015 sent just now | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, I pointed that out a few times. I don't believe that any of the mods on LOL NO VO's forums are actually "volunteers". The way they act makes it seem unlikely. | Sep 27 21:23 |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:24 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:26 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:32 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 21:33 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:33 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:33 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:33 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:34 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:36 | |
| <--sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 21:39 | |
| -->sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:39 | |
| <--sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 21:45 | |
| <--cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:46 | |
| <--Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:46 | |
| -->cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:46 | |
| -->sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:47 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/gLl5pnF | Sep 27 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thanks Cisco (CCP) - Imgur | Sep 27 21:48 | |
| -->Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:48 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 22:03 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 22:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | hhmmm... daemonfc left | Sep 27 22:27 |
| r_schestowitz | so quickly | Sep 27 22:27 |
| razielle_tzu | was a ping out | Sep 27 22:29 |
| r_schestowitz | hhmmm. | Sep 27 22:30 |
| r_schestowitz | I wanted to give him some new info | Sep 27 22:30 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/780873564132143104 | Sep 27 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Legal loopholes and wormholes will always be manipulated to favour mega buck multinationals over scientists & innovators | Sep 27 22:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/780873947810263040 | Sep 27 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz TPPA, TTIP, TISA & other toxic trade pacts are designed to deregulate & use copyright to enable global monopolies, oligopolies | Sep 27 22:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/harrjd/status/780874181722406912 | Sep 27 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@harrjd: @schestowitz you think his days are now numbered ref:500 mil yahoo acct | Sep 27 22:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | Stamos | Sep 27 22:31 |
| razielle_tzu | daemon will probbaly check logs when he comes back | Sep 27 22:32 |
| r_schestowitz | he has no passive bot for logging | Sep 27 22:32 |
| r_schestowitz | and I don't publish logs for a while... will do soon, I hope, because I don't want to help the EPO spy on people | Sep 27 22:33 |
| razielle_tzu | ah | Sep 27 22:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Researcher- might be a spy | Sep 27 22:33 |
| r_schestowitz | never replies to anything, stalks all channels | Sep 27 22:33 |
| r_schestowitz | even evaded a ban I once put on it (it's a bot) | Sep 27 22:33 |
| razielle_tzu | huh | Sep 27 22:34 |
| razielle_tzu | i'd fill him in but i'm not always online even though my core is always connected | Sep 27 22:34 |
| -->tst_ (6d4e2761@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.78.39.97) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 22:50 | |
| tst_ | help | Sep 27 22:50 |
| razielle_tzu | with? bear in mind we're not a help channel | Sep 27 22:51 |
| <--tst_ has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 27 22:51 | |
| *razielle_tzu shrugs | Sep 27 22:51 | |
| XRevan86 | That's kinda scary. | Sep 27 22:51 |
| XRevan86 | but mostly shruggish | Sep 27 22:52 |
| MinceR | http://cdn77.eatliver.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/stool-bus.jpg | Sep 27 22:53 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/mpug6 | Sep 27 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Netflix and Array - Album on Imgur | Sep 27 23:08 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/bSdbfrt | Sep 27 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When you snooze an alarm... - Imgur | Sep 27 23:19 | |
| <--localh0st has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 23:38 | |
| -->localh0st (~lclhst@s5.linuxpl.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 23:38 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 23:50 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 23:51 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/bRQ77uB.gifv | Sep 27 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Sep 27 23:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mmasnick/status/780888485976641538 | Sep 27 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mmasnick: @schestowitz we've used cloudflare for years. helped us stop a DoS attack a few years ago. | Sep 27 23:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | good to know, I didn't know there was a ddos attack | Sep 27 23:57 |
| -->arossdotme (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 23:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/XxMikey4PxX/status/780898003511107584 | Sep 27 23:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@XxMikey4PxX: @schestowitz @wikileaks Clinton takes credit for putting together the coalition. If you cannot blame leadership, who can you blame? | Sep 27 23:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | [22:50] <tst_> help | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | [22:51] <razielle_tzu> with? bear in mind we're not a help channel | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | [22:51] <-- tst_ (6d4e2761@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.78.39.97) has left this server (Client Quit). | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | razielle_tzu: wong answer | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | now he'll commit suicide | Sep 27 23:58 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 27 23:58 |
| razielle_tzu | but it's true | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | yeah, I'm just pulling your leg | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | I cannot imagine going into a channel just to say "help", then leave | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe he needed the manual | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | man man | Sep 27 23:58 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | he typed help | Sep 27 23:59 |
| r_schestowitz | and it didn't give him command glossary | Sep 27 23:59 |
| razielle_tzu | but help commands require a . or something in front of them if there's a bot in channel | Sep 28 00:00 |
| *razielle_tzu opens a bottle of hobgoblin | Sep 28 00:05 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 28 00:08 | |
| razielle_tzu | r_schestowitz: the twitter bot is down in here now | Sep 28 00:21 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 00:23 | |
| r_schestowitz | oh dear, I guess it is | Sep 28 00:30 |
| <--vallor_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 28 00:30 | |
| r_schestowitz | no updare since 8 | Sep 28 00:30 |
| -->vallor (Ponzo@pdpc/supporter/monthlygold/vallor) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 00:31 | |
| <--vallor has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 28 00:31 | |
| -->vallor (Ponzo@pdpc/supporter/monthlygold/vallor) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 00:32 | |
| razielle_tzu | sounds about right | Sep 28 00:35 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 28 01:15 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 28 01:33 | |
| -->EdSantos754 (~EdSantos7@bl8-244-176.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 01:38 | |
| <--EdSantos754 has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 28 01:41 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 28 01:44 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@107.170.171.17) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 01:46 | |
| <--Valfor has quit (Changing host) | Sep 28 01:46 | |
| -->Valfor (~Valfor@unaffiliated/mrpps) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 01:46 | |
| -->dblaber (~dmb@pool-71-172-246-73.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 01:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780934260114853888 | Sep 28 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/B5vAVLldik (www.96boards.org) goes Cortex-M4 | Sep 28 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with IoT Edition and Carbon SBC https://t.co/iOr8cZwRah | Sep 28 01:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 01:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 01:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.96boards.org | 96Boards: 32- and 64-bit ARM Boards | Sep 28 01:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 96Boards.org goes Cortex-M4 with IoT Edition and Carbon SBC | Tux Machines | Sep 28 01:57 | |
| -->arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 02:28 | |
| <--arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 28 02:32 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 02:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Freenode is having problems today, it seems. | Sep 28 02:53 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah, DDoS | Sep 28 02:53 |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 03:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Has anyone tried KingRoot for Android? | Sep 28 03:36 |
| razielle_tzu | no but i've heard good things | Sep 28 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/54py9y/firefox_os_development_has_ceased/ | Sep 28 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Firefox OS development has ceased : firefox | Sep 28 03:42 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | e10s development should cease as well. | Sep 28 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | I want Firefox to use more memory! - said nobody ever. | Sep 28 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | I want Firefox to make my computer less responsive! -said nobody ever. | Sep 28 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | I want Firefox to break tons of extensions! -said nobody ever. | Sep 28 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | The only place I still use Firefox as my main browser is Android, because Google won't allow ad blockers in Chrome. Mozilla has been deteriorating as an organization and Firefox as a product for years. | Sep 28 03:44 |
| razielle_tzu | i haven't used firefox in about three years | Sep 28 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/54hg61/should_i_forceenable_electrolysis/ | Sep 28 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should I force-enable Electrolysis? : firefox | Sep 28 03:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Since the only thing that e10s does is make Firefox use more memory and cause the operating system's task scheduler to work less efficiently, I would like an option to force disable it forever. Although I doubt we'll have that choice in the end. | Sep 28 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, The mods on Lenovo Forums are back, including the Microsoft MVP. | Sep 28 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped deleting posts. They've moved the ones that they would have deleted to a "Housekeeping area" now. | Sep 28 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | Must have decided that deleting them when people were taking screenshots was too embarassing. | Sep 28 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/m-p/3440365#M8487 | Sep 28 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Re: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID... - Page 31 - Lenovo Community | Sep 28 03:57 | |
| DaemonFC | "Even more amusing is that the mods are back, including the Microsoft MVP, and are sending posts "into the cornfield" now instead of deleting them. | Sep 28 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 28 03:59 | |
| DaemonFC | I guess they got tired of people on other sites taking screenshots of the posts they were deleting and comparing them to the messages the moderators left behind. *sigh* | Sep 28 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 28 03:59 | |
| DaemonFC | Instead of a coverup, it would be nice to have a patch." | Sep 28 03:59 |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 03:59 | |
| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-53-will-drop-support-for-windows-xp-and-windows-vista-508688.shtml | Sep 28 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | Nice | Sep 28 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Firefox 53 Will Drop Support for Windows XP and Windows Vista | Sep 28 04:02 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soj2/should_we_make_an_effort_to_make_hardware_stop/ | Sep 28 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Should we make an effort to make hardware stop claiming to be "Linux Supported!" if it stopped working after a kernel released years ago? : linux | Sep 28 04:08 | |
| DaemonFC | If it's a driver that's not included with the Linux kernel, or even worse, a proprietary driver with only binaries available, expect it to stop working soon. | Sep 28 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | Hardware companies tend to consider a product ancient history by the time it's on store shelves. I had the same experience with an Avermedia TV tuner that claimed to support Linux. I ended up having to have my Media Center on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS until WAY after it was EOL because they never updated the binary-only driver. | Sep 28 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Linus Torvalds said that he refuses to "tie his hands" over some binary-only module and that he wants people to know that when they depend on one, it's their own problem. | Sep 28 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's the right position. When you have a stable driver ABI, you end up like Microsoft, where you have several versions of each one in your OS and all having security issues that can't be reliably patched. | Sep 28 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54uahw/linux_laptop_suggestions/ | Sep 28 04:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux laptop suggestions? : linux | Sep 28 04:18 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point 5 minutes ago* | Sep 28 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | Not the Lenovo Yoga! | Sep 28 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | Get a Dell XPS with similar hardware. They put back AHCI mode in the BIOS when their users complained. Lenovo just released an idiotic PR statement (that the mods and some pro-Microsoft and Linux bashing people on this forum took and ran with) and left their computers broke. | Sep 28 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | Dell has customer service and Lenovo doesn't care about their customers. | Sep 28 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | Only get the Yoga if you don't mind not being able to use an SSD worth hundreds of dollars and plan to install Linux on a Compact Flash card. :P | Sep 28 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | Now the mods on the Lenovo forum are back, including our friend the MS MVP, and they're sending more posts from their unhappy customers to "the cornfield". | Sep 28 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | This forum is starting to look like Digg, with Linux bashers and Apple/MS fanboys taking over all of the Linux discussions. | Sep 28 04:20 |
| razielle_tzu | it's been heading that way for a while though hasn't it? | Sep 28 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | I hadn't really noticed until the mods started deleting my posts or putting "misleading" on all of them. | Sep 28 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54p0gg/the_us_presidential_candidates_on_technology/ | Sep 28 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The U.S. presidential candidates on technology, privacy issues [including use of open source software in government] : linux | Sep 28 04:27 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | Can someone find that video of Hillary Clinton tripping all over herself to figure out what Firefox and open source software were when she was SoS and a federal employee asked her why they had to use Internet Explorer? | Sep 28 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54soot/is_linux_that_bad_at_gaming/ | Sep 28 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Is Linux That Bad at Gaming? : linux | Sep 28 04:33 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | Wine isn't a terrible option. Many games now support Linux directly on Gog and Steam, and of course you should use a native version whenever possible. I've seen a terrible Linux port once when I bought a Humble Bundle. The offender was Trine, which you could tell was ported by a developer familiar with Windows, because they made a private copy of everything in /lib and /usr/lib (I'm serious.) | Sep 28 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | Hundreds of MB of private copies of libs and then one of their private libs actually broke the game on the next Linux distribution releases, so the fix was deleting the lib. Some developers would be better off just using Winelib to do their port if they can't figure out how to do a proper Linux version. | Sep 28 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | I like how easy the PlayOnLinux frontend to Wine is. Makes it really easy, especially if you're not going to by Crossover Gaming (a commercially supported version of Wine). | Sep 28 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, another Humble Bundle game was using Winelib for their Linux port. If you're a developer who won't bother to do Linux right, just use Winelib. | Sep 28 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Looks like Alan Cox just commented on the Lenovo problem. | Sep 28 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | https://plus.google.com/+AlanCoxLinux/posts/QWnM6s2zKWm | Sep 28 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus.google.com | "Unsupported models will rely on Linux operating system vendors releasing new… | Sep 28 04:46 | |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Firefox 52 will be an ESR, so Windows XP users can rrun a supported browser until 2018. | Sep 28 05:12 |
| -->DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 05:15 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 28 05:19 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 05:19 | |
| ---DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Sep 28 05:20 | |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-255-173.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 05:20 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 28 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing that /r/linux has proven for sure this week is that there ought to be a way to flair the moderators as misleading. My god those people are thick. | Sep 28 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | brb shower | Sep 28 05:28 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 05:37 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 05:42 | |
| <--Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 28 06:05 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo turned on comment moderation so nobody can leave an unapproved comment on their forum. | Sep 28 06:06 |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 28 06:27 | |
| r_schestowitz | hi DaemonFC | Sep 28 08:08 |
| r_schestowitz | I was trying to give you some links | Sep 28 08:08 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/02/20/lenovo-superfish/ http://techrights.org/2007/05/12/lenovo-novell/ http://techrights.org/2008/01/15/samsung-patent-lenovo-sled/ http://techrights.org/2015/08/13/lenovo-scapegoating/ | Sep 28 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lenovo’s Superfish Scandal is Spyware on Top of Spyware (Microsoft Windows), the Problem is Inherently Proprietary Software | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/psxwi ] | Sep 28 08:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Does the Lenovo-Microsoft Deal Affect Novell’s SUSE? | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/psxwj ] | Sep 28 08:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | more recent and relevant: http://techrights.org/2016/08/23/microsoft-extorts-lenovo-and-motorola/ | Sep 28 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Samsung is Down, Lenovo Disappoints with ‘Microsoft Tax’ | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/psxwk ] | Sep 28 08:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Peter Writes About Malicious Microsoft Antifeatures, Tries to Blame Lenovo and Succeeds | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nfm6l ] | Sep 28 08:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Gives Microsoft (Paid-for) Keynote Position While Microsoft Extorts (With Patents) Lenovo and Motorola Over Linux Use | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/pn3xn ] | Sep 28 08:09 | |
| gde33 | https://rfcx.org/ | Sep 28 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rfcx.org | Rainforest Connection | Protecting rainforests with real-time data | Sep 28 08:14 | |
| gde33 | https://www.the-parallax.com/2016/07/25/hacker-targets-big-pharma-homebrew-meds/ | Sep 28 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.the-parallax.com | Hacker targets Big Pharma with homebrew meds - The Parallax [ http://ur1.ca/pt3zm ] | Sep 28 08:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | [04:46] <DaemonFC> r_schestowitz, Looks like Alan Cox just commented on the Lenovo problem. | Sep 28 08:16 |
| r_schestowitz | IIRC he works for Intel | Sep 28 08:16 |
| r_schestowitz | so he'd defend this Intel crap | Sep 28 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | Ugh | Sep 28 08:17 |
| r_schestowitz | but after his wife died (IIRC) he stepped out of kernel dev | Sep 28 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://techdows.com/2016/09/firefox-52-mozilla-disables-adobe-primetime-cdm-plugin.html | Sep 28 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Firefox 52: Mozilla disables Adobe Primetime CDM Plugin | Techdows | Sep 28 08:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Firefox 52 will stop installing the CDMs by default. | Sep 28 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | It waits until you come across a DRM video site and asks if you want to enable the DRM. | Sep 28 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it's an improvement, I guess. | Sep 28 08:19 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LiopoldDoron/status/780931434450157568 | Sep 28 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LiopoldDoron: Izčrpna kritika fundacije Gates. https://t.co/xnYvZWCaqK | Sep 28 08:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Elon Musk trending. Cult of personalities again. Reminds of me Trump and Clinton as "brands"; also this scum: https://t.co/VlB48Exg46 | Sep 28 08:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- (Re-tweeted by LinuxSocist) | Sep 28 08:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Itzel650 favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 28 08:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 28 08:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781029361491251200 | Sep 28 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/B5vAVL3CqM (www.96boards.org) goes Cortex-M4 | Sep 28 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with IoT Edition and Carbon SBC https://t.co/8GhJSCSDNE | Sep 28 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (hackerboards.com) | Sep 28 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 08:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.96boards.org | 96Boards: 32- and 64-bit ARM Boards | Sep 28 08:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | 96Boards.org goes Cortex-M4 with IoT Edition and Carbon SBC | Sep 28 08:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781029599786467328 | Sep 28 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.22 Supports Flatpak Cross-Linux Distribution | Sep 28 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Framework https://t.co/dnYiQzh567 (www.eweek.com) | Sep 28 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 08:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | GNOME 3.22 Offers Flatpak Cross-Linux Distribution Framework | Sep 28 08:43 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Alan Cox seems to agree with me. | Sep 28 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | The first thing he said was that the news didn't fact check Lenovo's response very well. | Sep 28 08:43 |
| r_schestowitz | excellent! | Sep 28 08:45 |
| r_schestowitz | Go with it then | Sep 28 08:45 |
| r_schestowitz | go deeper | Sep 28 08:45 |
| r_schestowitz | See what I wrote online about it this morning | Sep 28 08:45 |
| r_schestowitz | I quoted you regarding the MVPs | Sep 28 08:46 |
| r_schestowitz | you need to wait for the AG | Sep 28 08:46 |
| r_schestowitz | see if they can unseal the deal under NDA | Sep 28 08:46 |
| r_schestowitz | Don't give up, it's not over yet, we just have a big pile of lies, like in Superfish | Sep 28 08:46 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: glyn moody RTs the Alan Cox thing | Sep 28 08:51 |
| r_schestowitz | so about 1000 more people will read it | Sep 28 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Wrote about it where? | Sep 28 08:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781036403958378497 | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes from | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 https://t.co/7gOfgKqpPG | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 08:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes from Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 | Sep 28 08:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781037012900020224 | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | September 30, 2016 https://t.co/9njLMDODHs | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 08:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on September 30, 2016 | Sep 28 08:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781038968129413121 | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes from | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 https://t.co/3cng8M1BY2 | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 08:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes from Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 08:53 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: see #boycottnovell-social | Sep 28 08:56 |
| r_schestowitz | scroll up a bit | Sep 28 08:56 |
| r_schestowitz | you will even see Glyn Moody | Sep 28 08:56 |
| r_schestowitz | it's a timeline of activity | Sep 28 08:56 |
| r_schestowitz | or you could just check diaspora or twitter | Sep 28 08:57 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: to save you time: https://www.joindiaspora.com/tags/lenovo | Sep 28 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.joindiaspora.com | #lenovo | Sep 28 08:57 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Just to let you know, I may not get my notifcations on time. | Sep 28 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 sometimes delays them for 5-10 minutes from HexChat. I don't know why. | Sep 28 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, https://twitter.com/system76/status/780802047054675968 | Sep 28 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@system76: @rringqvist @nixcraft Unfortunately, the list has Lenovo, and we know how that has turned out. All our machines are born to run #Linux | Sep 28 09:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | ah, Windows... | Sep 28 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | System76 continues to beat Lenovo over the head with this. | Sep 28 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | System76 | Sep 28 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | @system76 | Sep 28 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | @rringqvist @nixcraft Unfortunately, the list has Lenovo, and we know how that has turned out. All our machines are born to run #Linux | Sep 28 09:05 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good! | Sep 28 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | RTd | Sep 28 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | https://twitter.com/system76/status/769204471771631616 | Sep 28 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@system76: @XoaGray @sabledrakon @danskunk problem is for Lenovo #Linux is an afterthought on their laptops. For us it is the PRIORITY. :) | Sep 28 09:06 | |
| DaemonFC | that one was from August. LOL | Sep 28 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | Linux was an afterthought on Lenovo and now it doesn't run at all. | Sep 28 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | yeah | Sep 28 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer @ZomgPinkPonies now | Sep 28 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | @slashdot You can come to my house and try to install Linux. If you believe Lenovo, I also have the Brooklyn Bridge for sale for two bucks. | Sep 28 09:16 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/780872505531785220 | Sep 28 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @fsf @baconandcoconut please clarify on the webpage if travel/hotel costs are covered. | Sep 28 09:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | yes, people take their words at face value | Sep 28 09:17 |
| r_schestowitz | because Big Brand | Sep 28 09:17 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/780884125720907780 | Sep 28 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @MarietjeSchaake @Senficon @communia_eu @LNKalshoven better recordings first. | Sep 28 09:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.inquisitr.com/3545409/was-michael-savage-censored-for-discussing-hillarys-health/ | Sep 28 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inquisitr.com | Was Michael Savage Censored For Discussing Hillary’s Health? | Sep 28 09:25 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 09:29 | |
| DaemonFC | In reply to Jan Wildeboer | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer @ZomgPinkPonies 20m20 minutes ago | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | @jwildeboer You can come over to my house and try to install Linux on my Lenovo and prove it isn't blocked. | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | In reply to OMG! UBUNTU! | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer @ZomgPinkPonies 18m18 minutes ago | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | @omgubuntu You can come over and take a look at my BIOS setup screen and try to install Ubuntu on my laptop if you believe Lenovo. | Sep 28 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | [09:31] <DaemonFC> In reply to OMG! UBUNTU! | Sep 28 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | The mono fans (back in the days) | Sep 28 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | Now it's an MS product | Sep 28 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781038970654322688 | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | September 30, 2016 https://t.co/5ve3rInIFL | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on September 30, 2016 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781039173872578560 | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta Officially Released with Linux | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.8, Download Now https://t.co/p54vtBhRRk | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta Officially Released with Linux Kernel 4.8, Download Now | Sep 28 09:52 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Yeah. They haven't banned me from Lenovo's Facebook page yet. | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781053864967561217 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stylish Markdown Editor ‘Typora’ Is Now Available for | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu https://t.co/WNZhEG9rM8 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Stylish Markdown Editor 'Typora' Is Now Available for Ubuntu - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| DaemonFC | Getting a lot of Likes on there. :) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055604253089792 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/p9pukfhE0a | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055605259636736 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xvOTNuHuXu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055606350196737 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps https://t.co/TXqj55HYPz | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055607629492224 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source tools can help small businesses cut costs and | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | save time https://t.co/fLcDKFEOEt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source tools can help small businesses cut costs and save time | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055608841572353 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Users v Windows Users, Debian Mourns Another | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1tBT0sBBDj (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Users v Windows Users, Debian Mourns Another | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good | Sep 28 10:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @julienbarbier42 favourited 'Stylish Markdown Editor ‘Typora’ Is Now Available for...' | Sep 28 10:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055860059541504 | Sep 28 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Project mourns the loss of Kristoffer H. Rose | Sep 28 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DrBVOqBTcs (www.debian.org) | Sep 28 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160927 ) | Sep 28 10:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781056195150942208 | Sep 28 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux Setup - Daniel Foré, elementary OS | Sep 28 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SeckhlouDA (www.mylinuxrig.com) | Sep 28 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com | The Linux Setup - Daniel Foré, elementary OS - My Linux Rig | Sep 28 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781056821373112321 | Sep 28 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Avoid the pile-up in 'Clustertruck', a first-person | Sep 28 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | platformer with day-1 Linux support, it's great | Sep 28 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Tjc2hdpMCr (error) | Sep 28 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/avoid-the-pile-up-in-clustertruck-a-first-person-platformer-with-day-1-linux-support-its-great.8190 ) | Sep 28 10:06 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781057131688722432 | Sep 28 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Sep 28 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | I've decided to have a digital sit-in on Lenovo's Facebook wall. | Sep 28 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | I will post a message about how they have banned Linux and are an enemy of your freedom every time they post something to their wall until they ban me. | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fusion 3, the next generation game engine and editor from | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Clickteam will support Linux https://t.co/difxHa1d6O | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 28 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/fusion-3-the-next-generation-game-engine-and-editor-from-clickteam-will-support-linux.8192 ) | Sep 28 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781057480994455552 | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/labmsFtIT5 (www.datamation.com) | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users - Datamation | Sep 28 10:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: what if FB bans you? | Sep 28 10:08 |
| r_schestowitz | (not that I think it's a bad thing) | Sep 28 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I have more than one FB account. | Sep 28 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | I can switch to the other one. | Sep 28 10:10 |
| cubexyz | from a longevity standpoint I can't say that thinkpads were all that great | Sep 28 10:13 |
| cubexyz | IBM R30's had a common problem with CMOS errors and replacing the battery didn't fix it | Sep 28 10:13 |
| cubexyz | also the LCD screen would often deteriorate to the point where you would have trouble using it | Sep 28 10:14 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 28 10:14 | |
| cubexyz | of course, R30 is 2001 era so probably most people wouldn't bother using anything that old | Sep 28 10:15 |
| cubexyz | the Dell Dimension 8200's would overheat to the point where the video card would become damaged | Sep 28 10:17 |
| cubexyz | that's 2002 era | Sep 28 10:18 |
| cubexyz | quite the obsolete clunk now | Sep 28 10:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Penguin___Lover/status/781070957112852480 | Sep 28 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Penguin___Lover: @schestowitz, Penguins FTW | Sep 28 11:00 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781057572472250368 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps https://t.co/MR1GnYZc1F | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781059474089967616 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G3GmaZgABf (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 - Phoronix | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781061239187316736 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux success | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Z5ytenxUJ3 (opensource.com) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Asian Penguins convert Minnesota school to Linux | Opensource.com | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071729003114496 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vyWABiQmqF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071730114564096 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux success | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OH8pHowtTi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux success | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071731163213824 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SUSE Chasing Partners https://t.co/ORjCQ02bki | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Chasing Partners | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | dblaber: | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Blame Intel if Linux won’t install on your laptop | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | There’s been a lot of controversy about how some folks can’t get Linux to install on their laptops, and many angry users have been pointing their fingers at Microsoft. But a writer at PCWorld notes that it may be Intel’s fault, not Microsoft’s. | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Blame Intel if Linux won’t install on your laptop | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | There’s been a lot of controversy about how some folks can’t get Linux to install on their laptops, and many angry users have been pointing their fingers at Microsoft. But a writer at PCWorld notes that it may be Intel’s fault, not Microsoft’s. | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/article/3123821/linux/why-kid-hackers-should-have-a-linux-computer.html | Sep 28 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why kid hackers should have a Linux computer | InfoWorld | Sep 28 11:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | I meant daemonfc sorry | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | autocomplete while he's done | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/781072330080526336 | Sep 28 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz As a European, my fear for Trump is much larger than my love for either Sanders or Stein. I hope dncleaks turn out boring again | Sep 28 11:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://fedscoop.com/congressional-blockchain-caucus-mick-mulvaney-jared-polis | Sep 28 11:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedscoop.com | Tech-savvy lawmakers found blockchain caucus | Sep 28 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071732425707520 | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Access on the Rise https://t.co/rtdV1FQeFl | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Access on the Rise | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071733684002817 | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS in Networking https://t.co/YRL59v2kLw | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS in Networking | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781076500107976704 | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Onion Creates a $5 Linux Computer with Wi-Fi, Designed | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for IoT Applications https://t.co/MuFqfFgf5I | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.infoq.com) | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Onion Creates a $5 Linux Computer with Wi-Fi, Designed for IoT Applications | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781078495594151936 | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.4 https://t.co/tLqiR8Sk2a | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) https://t.co/gxvFL9rMbL (www.infoworld.com) | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.4 « codeblog | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the Linux kernel a security problem? | InfoWorld | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781079185657921538 | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BlackBerry’s next rumored Android phone, the DTEK60, | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | passed through the FCC https://t.co/HTsjLFS4yr | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Sep 28 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | BlackBerry’s next rumored Android phone, the DTEK60, passed through the FCC - The Verge | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781079458178531328 | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mediatek's developer board features a 10-core chip and | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android 6.0 https://t.co/vmCKhIarr8 (www.pcworld.com) | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mediatek's developer board features a 10-core chip and Android 6.0 | PCWorld | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781079730489585665 | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromebooks get stable Android apps as Andromeda rumors | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | swirl https://t.co/T8oflcteG7 (www.pcworld.com) | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chromebooks get stable Android apps as Andromeda rumors swirl | PCWorld | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781081029801025536 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | B2G OS and Gecko Annoucement from Ari Jaaksi & David | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bryant https://t.co/huIleboT2V (groups.google.com) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groups.google.com | B2G OS and Gecko Annoucement from Ari Jaaksi & David Bryant - Google Groups | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781082267640791040 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Pixel press shot leaked, shows new home button and | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | round icons https://t.co/MgTRQBZmCt | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | [Update: Pixel XL too] Google Pixel press shot leaked, shows new home button and round icons | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781082465012178945 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Are Android and Chrome OS coming together for real this | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | time?" https://t.co/laJ9o1u8be (www.computerworld.com) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Andromeda? Making sense of an Android-Chrome OS marriage | Computerworld | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087581052149760 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/KEvkFkqNfS | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087582545293312 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/FWisE9sufG | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087583753244672 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/YkLd8fAgsf | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/CHTfO8Jl.jpg | Sep 28 12:36 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 12:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087584944398336 | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/Shv0kOGgVC | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087586022326272 | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/jyIj10Lhtp | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781089224544116736 | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25 'Frozen' | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UcD1gCQW8I (techrights.org) | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25 ‘Frozen’ | Techrights | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 12:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta Officially Released with Linux...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/yJoRNP6.jpg | Sep 28 12:52 |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 28 13:17 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/9Opk9tI | Sep 28 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oddest time to update, razer - Imgur | Sep 28 13:19 | |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 13:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux...' | Sep 28 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/781106293289418752 | Sep 28 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25 'Frozen' | Sep 28 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts https://t.co/UcD1gCQW8I (techrights.org) | Sep 28 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 13:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/iiRzW97 | Sep 28 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You will never be as happy as this old man getting a pair of light up shoes. - GIF on Imgur | Sep 28 14:09 | |
| MinceR | http://boingboing.net/2016/09/27/how-a-pythagoras-cup-works.html | Sep 28 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | How a Pythagoras Cup works / Boing Boing | Sep 28 14:16 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 28 14:38 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/RBJFU05 | Sep 28 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Starbucks App - Imgur | Sep 28 14:50 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 28 15:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/rqL3yKU | Sep 28 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ooohhh harry.... - GIF on Imgur | Sep 28 16:00 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 16:14 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/spSqw3e | Sep 28 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is so bad I almost think it's satire - Imgur | Sep 28 16:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156710048149504 | Sep 28 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/PuliazOGnS | Sep 28 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Sep 28 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156711151185921 | Sep 28 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/ABB4eXbpMX | Sep 28 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 16:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 28 16:41 | |
| -->Emchan (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 16:49 | |
| MinceR | http://cdn77.eatliver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/test.jpg | Sep 28 17:04 |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-dumbest-election-conspiracy-theories-that-people-believe/ | Sep 28 17:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 Conspiracy Theories That PROVE This Election Is The Worst | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/pt6g9 ] | Sep 28 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156712518553601 | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/qJnol4DXMf | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 17:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156713709785088 | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1KdHfD8T7O (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 17:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear | Tux Machines | Sep 28 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781156715563593728 | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Linux Kernel 4.8 https://t.co/YBNm7Ihk8R | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 17:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 and Linux Kernel 4.8 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 17:14 | |
| -->Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 17:47 | |
| MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1739/ | Sep 28 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Fixing Problems | Sep 28 17:49 | |
| <--balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | Sep 28 17:51 | |
| MinceR | <worstcase> once we look at women as 3d printers i think abortion wont be as much of a big deal | Sep 28 17:55 |
| r_schestowitz | meh | Sep 28 18:17 |
| r_schestowitz | printers can be repaired | Sep 28 18:18 |
| r_schestowitz | [09:59] <DaemonFC> r_schestowitz, Yeah. They haven't banned me from Lenovo's Facebook page yet. | Sep 28 18:19 |
| r_schestowitz | Facebook or Le NO vo? | Sep 28 18:19 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/threatresearch/status/781180822208454656 | Sep 28 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@threatresearch: @schestowitz better to remain undefined. Don't let the advertising industry define you! | Sep 28 18:23 | |
| *cubexyz officially bans Lenovo from his computer lab | Sep 28 18:28 | |
| cubexyz | fortunately I don't have any Lenovo's | Sep 28 18:28 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/GiXxNO6 | Sep 28 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-That's not how you spell meeting. This is how you spell meeting. - Courtesy of Outlook - Imgur | Sep 28 18:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft... | Sep 28 18:42 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 18:43 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 28 18:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185089124184064 | Sep 28 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka it's an interesting question. I think we still need some professional trained force to deal with violent crimes. | Sep 28 19:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185241603911680 | Sep 28 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka But it could be much smaller than today's police. Some forces are so corrupt that we have to disband them anyway. | Sep 28 19:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185543090470912 | Sep 28 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka I think in a lot of cities the entire police culture is so corrupt that it needs to be rebooted. San Francisco? | Sep 28 19:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | That's the one that killed Debian's founder | Sep 28 19:01 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185710065758208 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185953939410944 | Sep 28 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka A friend who visited SF recently says he saw gangs of pickpockets & three card monte games while cops ignored it. | Sep 28 19:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka The city is much worse than 5 years ago. SFPD cops must be on the take. County of SF is the same as city of SF. | Sep 28 19:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781186138794897408 | Sep 28 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka So there's no checks & balances between SF city & county gov like in most of the US. Rich SF techies don't care. | Sep 28 19:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781186452252078081 | Sep 28 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka Or in Los Angeles, we had crooked LAPD and also a crooked LA Sheriff's Dept. for unincorporated parts w/o police. | Sep 28 19:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781187008349601792 | Sep 28 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka We need to disband every crooked police force in the USA & reboot them with a culture of respect for communities. | Sep 28 19:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/K_Killah915/status/781189515503214592 https://twitter.com/K_Killah915/status/781189666116476928 https://twitter.com/K_Killah915/status/781189866650349568 | Sep 28 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K_Killah915: @jhamby @schestowitz @ajamubaraka Ur ridiculous. I grew up in the inner city of Queens, yeah some police r bad but their is also violence | Sep 28 19:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K_Killah915: @jhamby @schestowitz @ajamubaraka Gangs run the housing projects. They instill fear in our community | Sep 28 19:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K_Killah915: @jhamby @schestowitz @ajamubaraka Anyone asking 4 police free comms grew up in the burbs or is ignorant | Sep 28 19:04 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/781191866008076289 | Sep 28 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz The important thing to remember is the #American people have lost by being presented with just two unappealing choices. #USpoli | Sep 28 19:04 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 19:07 | |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 19:07 | |
| MinceR | https://medium.com/the-nib/six-things-i-would-vote-for-before-trump-ade6f341941e | Sep 28 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six Things I Would Vote For Before Trump – The Nib – Medium | Sep 28 19:11 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 28 19:14 | |
| MinceR | http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/abZoy4B_460s_v1.jpg | Sep 28 19:26 |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 19:26 | |
| r_schestowitz | funny | Sep 28 19:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE...' | Sep 28 19:41 | |
| <--gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 28 19:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781202268607614976 | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5 upcoming Android phones that are worth waiting for | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UGdakg4fpe (www.geek.com) | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 upcoming Android phones that are worth waiting for | Tech | Geek.com | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781204176009367552 | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "student arrived at our department this semester, and | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | after learning that he uses GNU/Linux for all his | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | computing.." https://t.co/PEwKqNCcSr (spwhitton.name) | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spwhitton.name | 'Do you really need to do that?' | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781204388694163456 | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android's Nougat Update Isn't Flashy, but Still Pretty | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Handy https://t.co/8CXTTQtFxi (abcnews.go.com) | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Android's Nougat Update Isn't Flashy, but Still Pretty Handy - ABC News | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| -->gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 19:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781204852240183298 | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Images Of Android-Powered BlackBerry Passport Emerge | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5M1mIzIwa3 (www.androidheadlines.com) | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Images Of Android-Powered BlackBerry Passport Emerge | Androidheadlines.com | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781209606584471552 | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4vYZrFBMSG (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear - Tizen Experts | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781209774780186624 | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Linux Kernel 4.8 https://t.co/fNqZROqqQa | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 and Linux Kernel 4.8 | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781210216411136001 | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Polar M600 review: The best sports focused Android Wear | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartwatch available https://t.co/19iyiVQUPb | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Sep 28 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Polar M600 review: The best sports focused Android Wear smartwatch available Review | ZDNet | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781210651360370688 | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a diminutive | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desktop powered by AMD https://t.co/nOEOsyZFWf | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (betanews.com) https://t.co/re1VjpFFkI | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a diminutive desktop powered by AMD | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint Project Unveils Mintbox Mini Pro PC, Ships with Linux Mint 18 "Sarah" | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TfsF53y | Sep 28 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The "yes for safeway" button does nothing. - Imgur | Sep 28 20:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @skankthis retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a...' | Sep 28 20:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MishiChoudhary retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a...' | Sep 28 20:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781211910117199872 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and GNOME 3.20 Desktop https://t.co/s1ifesYAdA | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 and GNOME 3.20 Desktop | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213035604172800 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | EXTON MultiBootCD 6-OS Now Includes 4MLinux, Tiny Core, | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SliTaz, Porteus & PuppEX https://t.co/rxOxXU8jQ1 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | EXTON MultiBootCD 6-OS Now Includes 4MLinux, Tiny Core, SliTaz, Porteus & PuppEX | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213417604575232 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Comes with LXDE as LXQt Got | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Postponed Until Lubuntu 17.04 https://t.co/C75tWQGmH6 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Comes with LXDE as LXQt Got Postponed Until Lubuntu 17.04 | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213699738570752 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kYj6KPeiUy (hackerboards.com) | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213962859937792 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat https://t.co/Dbe8zlDIid? | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxinsider.com) | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781214183232835585 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop https://t.co/sgU2830HMi | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216244988915718 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MQ90OKalmK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216246251393025 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat https://t.co/BezJtfT7Zz | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216248105357312 | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop https://t.co/k7c4CM7j2c | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216249292345344 | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/xUpXCYeNvT | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tmp1-17.jpg | Sep 28 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216250605211648 | Sep 28 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/s1xcArbFPk | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781218576707514368 | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Highlights of YaST development sprint 25 | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/K3uXA196qC (lizards.opensuse.org) | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lizards.opensuse.org | openSUSE Lizards | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781223885933019136 | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Niche - a genetics survival game' released with Linux | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support https://t.co/r8YZhO7LZv (error) | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/niche-a-genetics-survival-game-released-with-linux-support.8194 ) | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tmp2-17.jpg | Sep 28 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781223931634221056 | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Pavilion', the very stylish fourth-person puzzling | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | adventure released with day-1 Linux support | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/slXWCRuVvW (error) | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/pavilion-the-very-stylish-fourth-person-puzzling-adventure-released-with-day-1-linux-support.8195 ) | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781224686327853056 | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel's Beignet OpenCL For Linux Now Supports LLVM 3.9 | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KVNa1ZqODb (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel's Beignet OpenCL For Linux Now Supports LLVM 3.9 - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781226164664823808 | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpine Linux 3.4.4 released https://t.co/lMkNctUX0O | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.alpinelinux.org) | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.4.4 released | Alpine Linux | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 28 21:34 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781227235093151744 | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NVIDIA Officially Releases CUDA 8 https://t.co/9LKMsZdnJF | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) more news about NV: | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/F6vbzDEyYW (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6P52TdXgdb (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Officially Releases CUDA 8 - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Announces "Xavier" AI Supercomputer SoC With Custom ARM64 + Volta GPU - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Shows Off Their Latest Linux-Powered AI Car Demonstration - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781229639133986816 | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WfMheardoe (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232879871234049 | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Firefox Changes https://t.co/cgOe0bKlgY | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox Changes | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232881125306368 | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpine Linux 3.4.4 released https://t.co/ClyTaYddEj | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine Linux 3.4.4 released | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232882119380998 | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/09WwjkyR9U | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232883453222912 | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/LIEjB4FTxF | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232884447219712 | Sep 28 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks | Sep 28 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zGHd8wunjN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Comes with LXDE as...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'EXTON MultiBootCD 6-OS Now Includes 4MLinux, Tiny Core,...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 28 22:20 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tmp3-15.jpg | Sep 28 22:26 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 263 seconds) | Sep 28 22:39 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 22:43 | |
| MinceR | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet | Sep 28 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | How to Crash Systemd in One Tweet [ http://ur1.ca/pt82b ] | Sep 28 22:44 | |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 28 22:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora...' | Sep 28 22:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781241867203710976 | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro start open-source development for IoT on ARM | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cortex-M https://t.co/o3dOthQu0u–1164526 | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.telecompaper.com) https://t.co/z4DxJ8WmTd | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.edn-europe.com) | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linaro start open-source development for IoT on ARM Cortex-M - Telecompaper | Sep 28 22:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edn-europe.com | Linaro organisation, with ARM, aims for end-end open source IoT code | EDN | Sep 28 22:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249556986015744 | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro and FOSS https://t.co/3AK9kVRw0x | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linaro and FOSS | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249558902808576 | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apache Spot https://t.co/ScheCM33hF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache Spot | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249560240791552 | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/JdzzhQwUJk | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249561725501440 | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/3wQ4e1r8KV | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/781081037573132288 | Sep 28 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @zoobab "openstack server list --limit -1 " fixed the issue. | Sep 28 23:07 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/Brainmage/status/781172583966380032 | Sep 28 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainmage: Despite all my rage I am still just https://t.co/WvfSukW4ng | Sep 28 23:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainmage: Despite all my rage I am still just https://t.co/WvfSukW4ng | Sep 28 23:53 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/781273251498647552 | Sep 29 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: https://t.co/254cK0fswF https://t.co/rgOCLXuDvA | Sep 29 00:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @wikileaks https://t.co/xTchiT7Mwo | Sep 29 00:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks Different genders and names, but the interests overlap | Sep 29 00:24 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 00:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249563290021888 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Server Administration https://t.co/lLdZ0ZYeg1 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server Administration | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781275487171739648 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Endless OS 3.0 is out! https://t.co/jELFFh04OI | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.joaquimrocha.com) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.joaquimrocha.com | Endless OS 3.0 is out! | Joaquim Rocha's Web Page | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281060424327168 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel News https://t.co/KpGiVrTHqQ | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel News | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281061397405696 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ovV2tLSyVs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281062596907008 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i8JQy2elmu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281064018808832 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Endless OS 3.0 is out! https://t.co/vawRGmn38W | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Endless OS 3.0 is out! | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Seems like a real response from Lenovo on Facebook. | Sep 29 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | They told me that if I don't cut it out, they'll just ban me from commenting on their page. | Sep 29 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK[S] 1 point 3 hours ago* | Sep 29 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has been lying and engaging in a cover up after blocking Linux and initially admitting that it was part of a deal with Microsoft. Especially on their forum. This is "suspicious" on the level of all third party ink cartridges stop working on the same day in HP printers and HP says "Whoops.". | Sep 29 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | 瑨灴㩳⼯睴瑩整�潣⽭捳敨瑳睯瑩⽺瑳瑡獵㜯ㄸㄲ㠱㠹㘵㠱㐸㘱 | Sep 29 01:18 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/781211898561884160 | Sep 29 01:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 and GNOME 3.20 Desktop https://t.co/GqyPAErEs9 #fedora #gnu #linux | Sep 29 01:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 and GNOME 3.20 Desktop | Sep 29 01:20 | |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/After-Lenovo-abandoned-Linux-best-replacement/m-p/3441207#M8491 | Sep 29 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: After Lenovo abandoned Linux, best replacement... - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/pt8od ] | Sep 29 01:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, Lenovo would like it if you believed that Linux no longer working with their latest Yoga laptops is just a coincidence. | Sep 29 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 29 01:21 | |
| DaemonFC | I guess it's as much of a coincidence as all 3rd party ink cartridges stop working in HP printers on the same day. | Sep 29 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 29 01:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Funny coincidence, that.... | Sep 29 01:21 |
| cubexyz | HP is good and bad just like Lenovo is good and bad | Sep 29 01:22 |
| cubexyz | Stallman was using a Lenovo X200 laptop | Sep 29 01:23 |
| cubexyz | I currently use HP scanners and HP chromebook | Sep 29 01:23 |
| cubexyz | and a HP laserprinter from 1997 | Sep 29 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, I don't dare get rid of my old HP AIO printer now. | Sep 29 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't give me the error so I think it's before they built in the timebomb. | Sep 29 01:25 |
| cubexyz | was HP and Lenovo better in the past? definitely | Sep 29 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | It has a driver that works in Windows 10. They're going to have to pry it out of my cold dead hands. | Sep 29 01:26 |
| cubexyz | but all-in-ones have some drawbacks... harder to fix if something goes wrong | Sep 29 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | has someone told RMS about HP DRM? | Sep 29 01:28 |
| r_schestowitz | He staretd GNU after a xeron faceoff he had had | Sep 29 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. Has anyone told him about Lenovo, for that matter? | Sep 29 01:28 |
| cubexyz | was it a xerox printer? I forget | Sep 29 01:29 |
| cubexyz | yes, a laser printer | Sep 29 01:30 |
| cubexyz | I was in a similar situation with the HP 4470c scanner a few years ago | Sep 29 01:31 |
| cubexyz | HP couldn't help me... the real villian was Realtek and there RTS8891 chip | Sep 29 01:33 |
| cubexyz | Realtek didn't give out any info on their chip | Sep 29 01:34 |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 29 01:34 | |
| cubexyz | eventually some european programmers reverse-engineered the windows driver | Sep 29 01:34 |
| cubexyz | hardly ideal, although I was able to use the scanner | Sep 29 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideapad-710s-and-Linux/m-p/3441211#M8492 | Sep 29 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: ideapad 710s and Linux - Page 5 - Lenovo Community | Sep 29 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Yogas not letting you install Linux is a coincidence....in the same way that all HP printers rejecting 3rd party ink on the same day was a *quotation fingers* "coincidence". | Sep 29 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 29 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Speaking of which: I don't dare get rid of my old HP AIO printer now. It didn't give me the *quotation fingers*"error" so I think it's before they built in the timebomb. It has a driver that works in Windows 10. They're going to have to pry it out of my cold dead hands. | Sep 29 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 29 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, Matthew Garrett blamed Intel for the *quotation fingers* "unfortunate situation" with Yogas and Linux, but Alan Cox not only works for Intel, he's a kernel developer that understands how to work in areas of the kernel that scare away almost everyone else, who have a hard time figuring out what's going on in there. Think.....assembler. | Sep 29 01:35 |
| cubexyz | the HP officejet printer/scanner/copiers were fairly well suported... e.g. the officejet 7130 would work on linux out of the box | Sep 29 01:36 |
| cubexyz | there were a bunch of different ones | Sep 29 01:37 |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 01:37 | |
| cubexyz | oh another bad one was the HP 4850 scanner | Sep 29 01:38 |
| cubexyz | except for that one it was the GL843 chip, but there actually was a data sheet available for it | Sep 29 01:38 |
| cubexyz | I have an interesting in programming, but there's a limit to everything | Sep 29 01:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, yes SANE eventually did support the HP 4850C, but not all features were supported | Sep 29 01:42 |
| cubexyz | good enough to get by I suppose | Sep 29 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideapad-710s-and-Linux/m-p/3441214#M8493 | Sep 29 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: ideapad 710s and Linux - Page 5 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/pt8r8 ] | Sep 29 01:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Avoiding a technical violation while talking about the *quotation fingers* "unfortunate totally coincidental Linux situation" on the Yogas on this forum is getting to the point where it's like if people asked you if the FBI was there and having to say "no" while nodding your head. Smiley Happy | Sep 29 01:43 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ChrisOrtega0/status/781287701169352704 | Sep 29 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChrisOrtega0: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @HillaryClinton @GovGaryJohnson lmfaoo well put! 😂 Also the unaware masses who comply to what's given to them | Sep 29 01:50 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54wqxp/libressl_250_released/ | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/op_hector/status/781295113209192448 | Sep 29 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | LibreSSL 2.5.0 released : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pt8sd ] | Sep 29 01:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@op_hector: @schestowitz @Truthdig @DrJillStein Trump alone no prob. The saddest part is it shows the thinking & feeling of almost half the voters in US | Sep 29 01:51 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | It's really unfortunate that there are so many users of OpenSSL. It's a subsidy black hole that will never be secure. LibreSSL has had problems, but you can go to the Wikipedia article and compare vulnerabilities since OpenSSL 1.0.2 against LibreSSL and tell me which one people should be using. | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing has improved, really, since Heartbleed. | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, seen that | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | in techrights and tuxmachines already | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: lenovo has its own fork | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | it's called superSSL | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | Good one! | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, added that into the comments. | Sep 29 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 29 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | I also hear that Lenovo had their own fork. | Sep 29 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | SuperSSL. | Sep 29 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks folks, I'll be here all day. :P | Sep 29 01:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281065000243200 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/OQFMfzZAK4 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 01:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781294355130748928 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6KcQcdbt1d (techrights.org) | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0 | Techrights | Sep 29 01:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296068998770688 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Networking and Security https://t.co/7Xj03dUqZ7 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Networking and Security | Tux Machines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| <--MarkBilk_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296070487789569 | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/qJurP6OAA4 | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296071834087424 | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/f7VxSE0jTo | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54zl0u/dont_hide_drm_in_a_security_update/ | Sep 29 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Don't Hide DRM in a Security Update : linux | Sep 29 01:56 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 29 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Tell people that a major PC OEM made Linux stop working on half a dozen computer models (Lenovo), people call you a conspiracy theorist. | Sep 29 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Make everyone's affordable 3rd party ink fail on the same day (HP), everyone loses their minds. | Sep 29 01:56 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0...' | Sep 29 01:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0...' | Sep 29 01:56 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Shoould really post the Linux warning on the sites selling the 910 when it comes out. | Sep 29 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | *Should | Sep 29 02:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [01:52] <DaemonFC> Thanks folks, I'll be here all day. :P | Sep 29 02:06 |
| r_schestowitz | :_D | Sep 29 02:06 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, they already suffer | Sep 29 02:07 |
| r_schestowitz | the media sort of moved on and lost interest | Sep 29 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | Do we have any idea how much though? | Sep 29 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't seem like people are losing interest. Especially when you mention that you can't reinstall Windows and would have to send it in to Lenovo for that. | Sep 29 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | So it's important to mention that too. | Sep 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | That way you gain the interest of people who will never run Linux and they might decide to continue shopping. | Sep 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, The tidal wave of up votes on Best Buy made me a Top 50 reviewer with just two reviews posted. :) | Sep 29 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | So my future reviews will be on top of others. | Sep 29 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | I really want to keep hitting Lenovo with this. They can eventually ban me from their own sites (at least as far as they know), but the real damage can be done with comments and reviews about their products on other sites. | Sep 29 02:10 |
| cubexyz | secure boot and all that stuff made me dig into BIOS back in late 2010 | Sep 29 02:10 |
| cubexyz | I'm glad I did... learned a lot | Sep 29 02:10 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: way to go, you're a "dangerous" man now | Sep 29 02:15 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: some people sue over reviews | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | techdirt wrote about examples this month, new ones... | Sep 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Yeah, but those are usually obscure companies. | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | it always backfired and the company loses, gets even more negative publicity | Sep 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | And it blows up in their face. | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | also, steam IIRC banned one company over it | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | and tossed/canned their game | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | some companies require you prove to have purchased the item before reviewing | Sep 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, John said "They might sue you.". I said, "That's fine. If I lose I'll file bnkruptcy and then I'll write about it.". | Sep 29 02:17 |
| r_schestowitz | some firms are in the business of posting fake NEGATIVE reviews | Sep 29 02:17 |
| r_schestowitz | the FTC hardly enforces the law | Sep 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | "If I win, I'll write about it." | Sep 29 02:17 |
| r_schestowitz | I sent some complaint letter to the FTC about it | Sep 29 02:17 |
| r_schestowitz | and I'm no US citizen | Sep 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, You should complain to whatever the relevant agency is in the UK. | Sep 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | You might contact the EU. You can still do that. :) | Sep 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | I encouraged people to contact the US federal government and their state Attorney General's office. | Sep 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of these cases against big companies get lumped together if multiple states file charges against them. | Sep 29 02:19 |
| r_schestowitz | MSFT is a US company | Sep 29 02:19 |
| r_schestowitz | and the firms they get for astroturfing are US-based | Sep 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Then it ends up in the federal courts anyway. | Sep 29 02:19 |
| r_schestowitz | so the EU cannot do much | Sep 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo. | Sep 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has to be hurt so other OEMs will say "You know what. A $20 rebate on each Signature PC isn't worth it.". | Sep 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Or whatever it is. | Sep 29 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | The Signature PC program hasn't really worked out too well. The people who buy the cheaper models usually find out that they don't have enough space on the SSD to upgrade Windows or store many files. | Sep 29 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | End up putting Ubuntu on it to free up 20 gigs. | Sep 29 02:21 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EddieJohnson13/status/781307677368397825 | Sep 29 02:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EddieJohnson13: @schestowitz @DrJillStein 99.9%+ of cops have never killed anyone. You are a mental midget | Sep 29 02:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | This number if fabricated unless there are over a million cops in the US | Sep 29 02:44 |
| cubexyz | read up on Kelly Thomas, 2011 beat to death by cops | Sep 29 02:44 |
| cubexyz | and I still don't know what the deal was with Ian Murdock | Sep 29 02:47 |
| ---Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Sep 29 02:58 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 29 02:58:43 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 29 03:04:05 2016 | ||
| -->You are now talking on #techrights | Sep 29 03:04 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights is TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 29 03:04 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 29 03:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296599838367753 | Sep 29 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi Announces PIXEL Desktop Environment | Sep 29 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7kUNzB8UZF (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 29 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 03:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspberry Pi Announces PIXEL Desktop Environment - Phoronix | Sep 29 03:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StuKeroff favourited 'Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux...' | Sep 29 03:15 | |
| -->balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 03:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EddieJohnson13/status/781310437308542976 | Sep 29 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EddieJohnson13: @schestowitz @DrJillStein 1.1 million doc, approx 1 million with arrest powers | Sep 29 03:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EddieJohnson13/status/781311764902227968 https://twitter.com/EddieJohnson13/status/781312241626812416 | Sep 29 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EddieJohnson13: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Doc, less than 1 in 40 ever fire their weapon in the line of duty. | Sep 29 03:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EddieJohnson13: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Cops deal with mentally ill and atrocious behavior ALL THE TIME and almost always resolve the situation | Sep 29 03:25 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Thanks for the link | Sep 29 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2471947/what-you-missed-in-tech-last-week-hps-ink-ban-lenovo-vs-linux-yahoo-mega-hack | Sep 29 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | What you missed in tech last week: HP's ink ban, Lenovo vs Linux, Yahoo mega-hack | TheINQUIRER | Sep 29 03:30 | |
| DaemonFC | RF • 6 minutes ago | Sep 29 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | What Lenovo did with the recent Yogas to block Linux is a disgrace and is unforgivable. Whether it was due to an agreement with Microsoft, which they admitted to before deleting it, or due to gross incompetence, people should not buy Lenovo computers until there is a fix and they publicly state that they won't do it again. | Sep 29 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | In the meantime, make sure your friends know that Lenovo = Not good for Linux. | Sep 29 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | After hiding, deleting, and modifying forum posts, Lenovo put moderation on to make it look like you can still comment, but you can't. | Sep 29 03:30 |
| schestowitz | gn | Sep 29 03:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, that's the last link I saw about this saga | Sep 29 03:31 |
| schestowitz | nothing since, but I didn't look closely into it | Sep 29 03:31 |
| schestowitz | press doesn't tend to do followups, unless it's some "correction" that PR bunnies press hard for | Sep 29 03:31 |
| schestowitz | a followup on this saga might not get covered unless something very major happens | Sep 29 03:32 |
| schestowitz | like action filed by the AG | Sep 29 03:32 |
| schestowitz | gn | Sep 29 03:32 |
| <--balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 29 03:32 | |
| -->balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 03:40 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point a minute ago | Sep 29 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks to the HP printer fiasco, many people now know the feeling of disgust you get when you buy something that should work and the OEM has intentionally designed it to block what you bought it to do. | Sep 29 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what the crossover is between furious HP customers and people who down voted and got the mods to flair my Lenovo posts as "misleading". I hope that a lot of those people bought expensive HP printers and can't take them back. For everyone else....Sucks doesn't it? Sorry it happened. | Sep 29 03:40 |
| dblaber | hp printer fiasco? | Sep 29 03:42 |
| dblaber | details? | Sep 29 03:42 |
| dblaber | ah never mind | Sep 29 03:42 |
| cubexyz | Matthäus Nikolaus Stulick, I definitely heard some nice harpsichord in the background | Sep 29 03:45 |
| razielle_tzu | :) | Sep 29 03:47 |
| <--balrog has quit (Quit: Bye) | Sep 29 03:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StuKeroff favourited 'Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux...' | Sep 29 03:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781324307632795648 | Sep 29 03:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi Announces PIXEL Desktop Environment | Sep 29 03:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Er5X997m7v (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 03:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 03:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Announces PIXEL Desktop Environment | Tux Machines | Sep 29 03:57 | |
| cubexyz | seems to be some confusion about his birthday | Sep 29 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54zl0u/dont_hide_drm_in_a_security_update/ | Sep 29 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Don't Hide DRM in a Security Update : linux | Sep 29 04:06 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]torontohatesfacts [-1] [score hidden] 25 minutes ago | Sep 29 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | You mean like faded photographs after 6 months under living room lighting? | Sep 29 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | permalink | Sep 29 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | embed | Sep 29 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | save | Sep 29 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | parent | Sep 29 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | report | Sep 29 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | give gold | Sep 29 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | reply | Sep 29 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point 11 minutes ago | Sep 29 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | EZ-INK on ebay has been a decent source of ink. Usually, when I print something out, I only need it because someone else is not caught up with the times and need something on paper. I don't feel like spending beluga caviar prices on HP ink so that I can give some foul government bureaucrat at the DMV a piece of paper that they proceed to scan into their computer anyway, but wouldn't have accepted as an email. | Sep 29 04:07 |
| cubexyz | give gold? | Sep 29 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Reddit Gold. | Sep 29 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | Someone gave me 30 days of gold for the Lenovo post. | Sep 29 04:07 |
| cubexyz | oh | Sep 29 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | It gives you access to hidden subreddits and other perks. | Sep 29 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | Mostly themes and the option to hide ads, but an ad blocker and Reddit Enhancement Suite can do that. | Sep 29 04:08 |
| cubexyz | wow, some piano aficionados say read the original Carl Bach book in german | Sep 29 04:16 |
| cubexyz | project gutenberg has let me down this time | Sep 29 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | I might still need my Chromebook so I can print with CUPS without dealing with HP's new printer software. | Sep 29 04:26 |
| <--sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 29 04:47 | |
| -->Emchan_alt (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 04:48 | |
| <--Emchan has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 29 04:48 | |
| -->balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 04:50 | |
| -->sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 04:54 | |
| <--habs has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 29 04:54 | |
| -->habs (U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 05:00 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 05:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781399391534014464 | Sep 29 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Sep 29 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yLPUYkPnLw (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 29 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Sep 29 08:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781399595066818560 | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ReqRu2Mg1j (hackerboards.com) | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 08:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Sep 29 08:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781401747419959296 | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi Foundation Unveils New LXDE-Based Desktop | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Raspbian Called PIXEL https://t.co/8Np93aUmzd | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 08:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Raspberry Pi Foundation Unveils New LXDE-Based Desktop for Raspbian Called PIXEL | Sep 29 08:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781402211595190272 | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Studio 16.10 to Offer an Up-to-Date Multimedia | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oriented Linux Distro https://t.co/T2kuyVmxlD | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 08:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Studio 16.10 to Offer an Up-to-Date Multimedia Oriented Linux Distro | Sep 29 08:59 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 29 09:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781402895405223936 | Sep 29 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 Beta 2 Released with Many Apps from | Sep 29 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the GNOME 3.22 Stack https://t.co/YPDyNyGhfk | Sep 29 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 Beta 2 Released with Many Apps from the GNOME 3.22 Stack | Sep 29 09:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 09:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @jfoxdev favourited 'Raspberry Pi Foundation Unveils New LXDE-Based Desktop for...' | Sep 29 09:08 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 09:12 | |
| <--Researcher- has quit (Quit: Node swtching mode ... transfer will complete in 12 sec) | Sep 29 09:35 | |
| -->Researcher- (iana@gtld.ovh) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 09:35 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I am linking t Lenovo forums | Sep 29 10:04 |
| schestowitz | 6 microblogs | Sep 29 10:04 |
| schestowitz | it's quality, now that Alan Cox debunks them | Sep 29 10:04 |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 29 10:05 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 29 10:05 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781405229594112000 | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Valve's Steam Controller With SteamOS/Linux Support Is | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Now Listed For Just $35 https://t.co/217uCf3njA | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve's Steam Controller With SteamOS/Linux Support Is Now Listed For Just $35 - Phoronix | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781407522779459584 | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development, Improves Swarm Mode https://t.co/Y1vxlM8FFj | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development, Improves Swarm Mode | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: contact Steven (SJVN) et al now | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781411486052847616 | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | billion turnover in 5 years https://t.co/HSW6RCFUyt | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (economictimes.indiatimes.com) | Sep 29 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economictimes.indiatimes.com | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 billion turnover in 5 years - The Economic Times | Sep 29 10:11 | |
| schestowitz | tell them about Alan Cox and other new developments | Sep 29 10:11 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-new-debate-format | Sep 29 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - A New Debate Format [ http://ur1.ca/ptatk ] | Sep 29 10:12 | |
| DaemonFC | I'll look into that later. | Sep 29 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | Should have been in bed hours ago. | Sep 29 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | Night night. | Sep 29 10:17 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 29 10:17 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 10:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781421064949735424 | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | InXile Entertainment announced Wasteland 3, will use | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | crowdfunding on fig https://t.co/AMA0hahYx2 (error) | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/inxile-entertainment-announced-wasteland-3-will-use-crowdfunding-on-fig.8200 ) | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426777335869440 | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development, Improves Swarm Mode https://t.co/GJmU7i8RVP | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development, Improves Swarm Mode | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426778715721728 | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More on Canonical and Kubernetes https://t.co/TOKF3UPKJ4 | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on Canonical and Kubernetes | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426780053774336 | Sep 29 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 | Sep 29 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | billion turnover in 5 years https://t.co/xzWbfiAzX0 | Sep 29 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 billion turnover in 5 years | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426781202944000 | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/2ULdI32vs4 | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426782486470656 | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Servers/Networks https://t.co/THAgGU36Mn | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers/Networks | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development,...' | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development,...' | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 Beta 2 Released with Many...' | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Studio 16.10 to Offer an Up-to-Date Multimedia...' | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 10:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Raspberry Pi Foundation Unveils New LXDE-Based Desktop for...' | Sep 29 11:10 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WS58CbE | Sep 29 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows has computer - Imgur | Sep 29 11:23 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 29 11:25 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice one | Sep 29 11:27 |
| -->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 11:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ManagingIP/status/781440213646209024 | Sep 29 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ManagingIP: Letter expressing concerns re EPO management & Boards of Appeal - sent in February this year https://t.co/lToxWuTKUY | Sep 29 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @ManagingIP Letter From Dutch Institute of Patent Attorneys to the Administrative Council of #EPO https://t.co/UXX6jfAw7X | Sep 29 11:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/781446558931947524 | Sep 29 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rbanffy: @schestowitz in the end, if it causes Trump to be elected, there is little difference, even if someone feels they did what was morally right | Sep 29 11:53 | |
| MinceR | http://ateistamembazis.hu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/3179-00707-frustrations-2-650-x-2386.jpg | Sep 29 11:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/i9Y6db2 | Sep 29 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I don't think that's right, Word... - Imgur | Sep 29 12:09 | |
| MinceR | crApple pulling a micro$oft (yet again) >> http://www.androidauthority.com/android-wear-not-connecting-iphone-7-718921/ | Sep 29 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Android Wear watches aren't connecting to the iPhone 7 | Sep 29 12:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @SaimaAshiq favourited 'Samsung Z2 (SM-Z200F) Certified in Indonesia, likely Launching...' | Sep 29 13:00 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/UzjV1NQ | Sep 29 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LiquidSky now requires both your email and your email. - Imgur | Sep 29 13:02 | |
| MinceR | dumbFuckBook doing the usual shit >> http://www.androidauthority.com/whatsapp-wont-delete-data-india-718929/ | Sep 29 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | WhatsApp refuses to delete user data in India after court ruling [ http://ur1.ca/ptblg ] | Sep 29 13:06 | |
| -->Nazmo_ (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 13:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781463709688397824 | Sep 29 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/iQ5LBHhi6b | Sep 29 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 13:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 29 13:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/iQ5LBHhi6b' | Sep 29 13:11 | |
| schestowitz | daemon should see https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7903520 | Sep 29 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Lenovo Yogas not letting you install Linux is a coincidence....in the same way that all HP printers [DRM] coincidence". https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideapad-710s-and-Linux/m-p/3441211#M8492 | Sep 29 13:20 | |
| schestowitz | among many more | Sep 29 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forums.lenovo.com | Re: ideapad 710s and Linux - Page 5 - Lenovo Community | Sep 29 13:20 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Y3W4x | Sep 29 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trying to set up my Lynda account for work - Album on Imgur | Sep 29 13:35 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tc4-14.jpg | Sep 29 13:45 |
| schestowitz | someone just sent me https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet again | Sep 29 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | How to Crash Systemd in One Tweet | Sep 29 14:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GringoPeruano/status/781480332616884228 | Sep 29 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GringoPeruano: I wonder how many ppl would like 2say: "Fuck it, I quit”? :) https://t.co/HUss2bZ81R | Sep 29 14:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Reporter who quit on air to fight for #cannabis legalization could face prison https://t.co/slAO120aOj https://t.co/G5aI2MZguW | Sep 29 14:10 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/user24/status/781480853058809857 | Sep 29 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@user24: @schestowitz who's yesterday?!? lol! | Sep 29 14:11 | |
| MinceR | i don't get it | Sep 29 14:11 |
| schestowitz | me neither | Sep 29 14:12 |
| schestowitz | too early for booze | Sep 29 14:12 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe he thought "there" or "their" is "they're". | Sep 29 14:13 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Mzv6k49 | Sep 29 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shall the application preferences be removed? - No, application preferences / Yes, application preferences - Imgur | Sep 29 14:17 | |
| schestowitz | server under heavy load | Sep 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | I want to change page for "Error 503 Service Unavailable" | Sep 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Varnish makes this very hard | Sep 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | "guru meditation" is an old game meme, hardly meaningful to visitors. I'd rather change, if not the layout, the text | Sep 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | to something like, "try again later, we're busy at the moment" | Sep 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | too hard imho http://serverfault.com/questions/248041/custom-503-error-page-with-varnish | Sep 29 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | Custom 503 Error Page With Varnish - Server Fault | Sep 29 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | I think I got it under control now | Sep 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz | I don't see why varnish makes it so tricky to change | Sep 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz | maybe they try to sell their services or some proprietary crap, that's their business model I think, like nginx's | Sep 29 14:24 |
| MinceR | LigHTTPD > nginx | Sep 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz | yeah, maybe... | Sep 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz | but I don't even use nginx for tuxmachines and techrights | Sep 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz | I use Apache | Sep 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz | at work I suppose nginx for clients | Sep 29 14:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: anyway, if you know of some simply way to remove this "guru meditation" silliness without hard-coded code changes, let me know. It's looking unprofessional to visitors... | Sep 29 14:30 |
| MinceR | dunno | Sep 29 14:31 |
| MinceR | doesn't look unprofessional to me | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I checked this several times in the past (years ago also), it's still hard to achieve | Sep 29 14:31 |
| MinceR | then again, visitors may not be aware of amiga :> | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | well, the error code is OK | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | but I'd rather say try again later | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, Amiga reference | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | We're going to a yoga class tonight | Sep 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz | MinceR:thanks for the time anyway; if you know some varnish gurus, let me know | Sep 29 14:36 |
| MinceR | np | Sep 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | I bet it can be done more simply, but searching the Web nets nothing | Sep 29 14:36 |
| MinceR | i don't know any | Sep 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | it's just a bunch of simple HTML, so I should be able to even throw <img src="BANNER" /> at it | Sep 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | lots of traffic today,not ddos | Sep 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | due to leaks from the epo, which I published (two major ones) | Sep 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | the server's db is on fire | Sep 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | apropos, MinceR: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-journalist-arrested-for-illegal-voting-after-exposing-carousel-fraud-in-duma-elections-denis-a7334351.html | Sep 29 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Russian journalist arrested for 'illegal' voting after exposing fraud in Duma elections | The Independent | Sep 29 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | cc XRevan86 | Sep 29 14:39 |
| schestowitz | who probably already heard of it | Sep 29 14:39 |
| MinceR | problem solved :> | Sep 29 14:40 |
| XRevan86 | I did hear about it indeed. | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/781466469620076548 | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/iQ5LBHhi6b | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 29 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781487302153474048 | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.5 https://t.co/9tDxTdqMEn | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.5 « codeblog | Sep 29 14:40 | |
| XRevan86 | http://newsru.com/russia/27sep2016/fontanka.html corresponding article in Russian | Sep 29 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: Раскрывшего "карусель" на выборах в Петербурге корреспондента "Фонтанки" будут судить [ http://ur1.ca/ptc5z ] | Sep 29 14:44 | |
| XRevan86 | Last paragraph from newsru.com to confuse even more: | Sep 29 14:48 |
| XRevan86 | > Later "Fontanka" (remak: that's the newpaper that did the check) found out that electional bulletins were illegally distributed by a citizen of Ukraine who wasn't a member of the committee. The paper wrote that she's 31-year old Natalia Mashina who works as a barber in St. Petersburg. | Sep 29 14:48 |
| XRevan86 | "citizen of Ukraine" might actually mean that she was pressured to do so to get an RF citizenship or something. | Sep 29 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | Or not, I have no clue. | Sep 29 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781488814787293184 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Hubs: Getting started https://t.co/3OsCu5JfIl | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (communityblog.fedoraproject.org) | Sep 29 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-hubs-getting-started/ ) | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781489856283279360 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The future of GNOME Calendar https://t.co/H2eDsYyaH7 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (feaneron.com) | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | The future of GNOME Calendar | Georges Stavracas | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781495707085791232 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alphabet's Plans to Create Android PCs Should Make | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft a Little Nervous https://t.co/jAll8XVev1 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (realmoney.thestreet.com) | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-realmoney.thestreet.com | Alphabet's Plans to Create Android PCs Should Make Microsoft a Little Nervous | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781496624346529792 | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Tiny Internet Project, Part I https://t.co/CyrHOGY7MK | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | The Tiny Internet Project, Part I | Linux Journal | Sep 29 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781496920355250176 | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.18 Tool for Creating Snaps | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/3Da8jPZJNR | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.18 Tool for Creating Snaps in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Sep 29 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781496970888220673 | Sep 29 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint's XApps to Get Screen Blanking, Sublime-like | Sep 29 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Search Bar Lands for Xed https://t.co/kqCXHic6BJ | Sep 29 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint's XApps to Get Screen Blanking, Sublime-like Search Bar Lands for Xed | Sep 29 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781497194968969220 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sony Xperia X Compact review: Small Android is still | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | good, but not much better https://t.co/nUOQcimsOj | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (arstechnica.com) | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Sony Xperia X Compact review: Small Android is still good, but not much better | Ars Technica | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498609954992128 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More on Russia Moving to FOSS https://t.co/M1hrGYhp5H | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on Russia Moving to FOSS | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498611163025408 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux/FOSS Events https://t.co/daekKFZOkb | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux/FOSS Events | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1412.html | Sep 29 15:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids [ http://ur1.ca/ptcd7 ] | Sep 29 15:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498612492611585 | Sep 29 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/Yt2zuPLpjI | Sep 29 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498613490790401 | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/XprLtsb4N6 | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498614539431936 | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/JRVWvENtWX | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781499156250656769 | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with LibreOffice 5.2.2 https://t.co/3ksUHZeU7R | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity with LibreOffice 5.2.2 | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 29 15:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781499669226610688 | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Osiris: New Dawn', a graphically impressive multiplayer | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | adventure and survival game coming to Linux | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vI1qam12b1 (error) | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/osiris-new-dawn-a-graphically-impressive-multiplayer-adventure-and-survival-game-coming-to-linux.8201 ) | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781500329011605504 | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Sunless Skies', the next game after 'Sunless Sea' to | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support Linux, will go to Kickstarter next year | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5j5t9W9edo (error) | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/sunless-skies-the-next-game-after-sunless-sea-to-support-linux-will-go-to-kickstarter-next-year.8202 ) | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781500911604596736 | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II, Chaos Rising and | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Retribution released for Linux, port report and thoughts | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CtEQ15vofp (error) | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-ii-chaos-rising-and-retribution-released-for-linux-port-report-and-thoughts.8205 ) | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @crowdassistco favourited ''Sunless Skies', the next game after 'Sunless Sea'...' | Sep 29 16:07 | |
| MinceR | https://66.media.tumblr.com/1f96ac30b174119209efc128fd97ec02/tumblr_odckapv2Ok1tlb56zo1_400.gif | Sep 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sda729/status/781515777035816960 | Sep 29 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sda729: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka & more WallSt shenanigans, like monetizing our collective psychosis of cellphone addiction https://t.co/N24mTkFmPA | Sep 29 16:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @devpytech favourited '5 Strange Linux Distributions That Are Useful In...' | Sep 29 16:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Robert_Waters1 followed @tuxmachines | Sep 29 16:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.18 Tool for Creating Snaps...' | Sep 29 16:43 | |
| -->acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 16:47 | |
| <--MarkBilk has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 29 17:06 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Jj5SRRX | Sep 29 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msg_crappy_application - Imgur | Sep 29 17:19 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 29 17:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Mint's XApps to Get Screen Blanking, Sublime-like...' | Sep 29 17:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity...' | Sep 29 17:36 | |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 29 17:46 | |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 17:50 | |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 29 17:50 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 17:53 | |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 17:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CrowdInvestFeed followed @tuxmachines | Sep 29 18:02 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 18:07 | |
| cubexyz | wow, finally managed to get the file | Sep 29 18:23 |
| cubexyz | anyone ever notice alsamixer doesn't work all that well with konsole? | Sep 29 18:26 |
| cubexyz | it works correctly in xterm | Sep 29 18:27 |
| MinceR | https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8979552000/h01F22837/ | Sep 29 18:29 |
| MinceR | i haven't used konsole in ages | Sep 29 18:29 |
| MinceR | well, perhaps a bit less than 'ages', but then only on a rpi that is not connected to any sort of audio output device | Sep 29 18:30 |
| cubexyz | ha, I read that as "El Annoyo" | Sep 29 18:30 |
| cubexyz | what do you use? | Sep 29 18:30 |
| MinceR | terminator | Sep 29 18:31 |
| cubexyz | hmmm... "initial gtk3 port for the brave" | Sep 29 18:35 |
| cubexyz | if I buy this Oboe concert CD I have no way to tell if it's piano or harpsichord :-/ | Sep 29 18:42 |
| cubexyz | I like konsole because I can do colour coded tabs for each session: | Sep 29 18:43 |
| cubexyz | http://wwwhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png | Sep 29 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'wwwhttp:' ( status 0 @ http://wwwhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png ) | Sep 29 18:43 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png | Sep 29 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png ) | Sep 29 18:44 | |
| cubexyz | for f**k's sake | Sep 29 18:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/konsole-command-central.png | Sep 29 18:44 |
| MinceR | s/brave/masochist/ | Sep 29 18:46 |
| cubexyz | yeah can't use konsole for everything | Sep 29 18:53 |
| cubexyz | ok, limited time only... the original CPE Bach essay on keyboard instruments in the original 18th century German :) | Sep 29 18:56 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bach-cpe-versuch-ber-die-wahre-art-das-claiver-zu-spielen.pdf | Sep 29 18:57 |
| cubexyz | that is one formidable typeface :) | Sep 29 19:00 |
| MinceR | that'll take a while to load | Sep 29 19:02 |
| cubexyz | I might put it up on archive.org | Sep 29 19:02 |
| cubexyz | 18th century should be safe from copyright | Sep 29 19:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 29 19:02 |
| MinceR | ah yes, fraktur | Sep 29 19:06 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/15dlTJO | Sep 29 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oh no? Oh no. - GIF on Imgur | Sep 29 19:09 | |
| cubexyz | imgur.com just kills my poor P3 with 512 megs of ram | Sep 29 19:12 |
| -->c0mms (~c0mms@46.165.208.107) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 19:12 | |
| MinceR | :( | Sep 29 19:13 |
| MinceR | it has gone south a while ago | Sep 29 19:13 |
| cubexyz | terminator doesn't seem to pass wall messages | Sep 29 19:21 |
| cubexyz | konsole doesn't either... that's why I can't always use konsole | Sep 29 19:22 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 29 19:34 |
| MinceR | i thought i did see them | Sep 29 19:34 |
| MinceR | but maybe that was in tmux running in terminator | Sep 29 19:34 |
| cubexyz | https://archive.org/download/bach-cpe-versuch-ber-die-wahre-art-das-claiver-zu-spielen/bach-cpe-versuch-ber-die-wahre-art-das-claiver-zu-spielen.pdf | Sep 29 19:35 |
| <--c0mms has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) | Sep 29 19:40 | |
| cubexyz | I uploaded some old popular science magazines and some computer world's | Sep 29 19:41 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dzGCX1d.jpg | Sep 29 19:41 |
| cubexyz | ouch | Sep 29 19:43 |
| cubexyz | and then another guy tried the same thing: | Sep 29 19:47 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Donovan_%28bridge_jumper%29#Fatal_jump | Sep 29 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Larry Donovan (bridge jumper) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 29 19:47 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 19:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/781539637848309760 | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk Important Bug Fixes https://t.co/7Aly2H5yZ0 | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with Important Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781574056487235585 | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with LibreOffice 5.2.2 https://t.co/xgzLNnHZ1Y | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity with LibreOffice 5.2.2 | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781574057753849856 | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | hybrid cloud https://t.co/HM1sLk1mg3 | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and hybrid cloud | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:19 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/sTQTg7j | Sep 29 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Agree - Imgur | Sep 29 20:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781574059070939136 | Sep 29 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! https://t.co/mhyQYtzeeU | Sep 29 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781574060203311104 | Sep 29 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/YmYH2tJaKj | Sep 29 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 20:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 29 20:31 | |
| MinceR | > systemd is on the move! http://67.media.tumblr.com/4bfb4943f0691b15d93bfac44562296f/tumblr_nzghsrUIbI1us21qco1_500.gif | Sep 29 21:03 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 29 21:03 |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 29 21:08 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9xVz8tf.jpg | Sep 29 21:10 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 21:11 | |
| <--MarkBilk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 29 21:16 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 21:16 | |
| <--MarkBilk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 29 21:22 | |
| -->MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@c-73-231-87-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 21:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/781523184550047744 | Sep 29 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz meeting was today, but have a hard time to find the video recordings. | Sep 29 21:25 | |
| schestowitz | [17:19] <MinceR> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Jj5SRRX | Sep 29 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msg_crappy_application - Imgur | Sep 29 21:46 | |
| schestowitz | [17:19] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- msg_crappy_application - Imgur | Sep 29 21:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't get it | Sep 29 21:46 |
| MinceR | all the labels are msg_something instead of their intended content | Sep 29 21:48 |
| cubexyz | what was the name of the program? | Sep 29 21:48 |
| cubexyz | I assume it's name isn't msg_crappy_application :) | Sep 29 21:49 |
| cubexyz | and I got a windows 10 ad | Sep 29 21:50 |
| cubexyz | "...get a great price on a yoga 900" | Sep 29 21:51 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 29 21:51 |
| ---Disconnected (). | Sep 29 21:53 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 29 21:53:24 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 29 21:53:38 2016 | ||
| -->You are now talking on #techrights | Sep 29 21:53 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights is TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 29 21:53 | |
| ---Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 29 21:53 | |
| MinceR | some sony crap | Sep 29 21:53 |
| MinceR | probably playstation brand | Sep 29 21:53 |
| schestowitz | yes, it did look dodgy | Sep 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | but not quite so hilarious, that's all | Sep 29 21:55 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 29 21:57 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 21:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity...' | Sep 29 22:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LLesleyThomas followed @tuxmachines | Sep 29 22:04 | |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 29 22:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781600525691289601 | Sep 29 22:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google delays launch of Android Wear 2.0 to next year | Sep 29 22:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oww0IwjkLA (www.theverge.com) | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google delays launch of Android Wear 2.0 to next year - The Verge | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781600700933496832 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Luna Launcher turns your Android phone into a | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kid-friendly device https://t.co/In00vtWUY4 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techcrunch.com) | Sep 29 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Luna Launcher turns your Android phone into a kid-friendly device | TechCrunch | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781600794000973824 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in the works | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uTUWWKPmDh (betanews.com) | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in the works | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781601112159813632 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Huawei will introduce its next flagship on November 3 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zDccVBMsrF (www.androidauthority.com) | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Huawei will introduce its next flagship on November 3 - Android Authority | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781601405236830208 | Sep 29 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OVS 2.6 and The First Release of OVN | Sep 29 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fPqamPYrdb (blog.russellbryant.net) | Sep 29 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.russellbryant.net | OVS 2.6 and The First Release of OVN | Russell Bryant | Sep 29 22:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ValeriAnzalone retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in...' | Sep 29 22:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Spotted in Lenovo's support forum this morning. Apparently, Lenovo's "warranty" service means you ship off your computer to a black hole and never get it back. This isn't the first horror story I've heard about their warranty service. | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | rlynnb | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Can't Seem to Tell Me What's Wrong with my Computer! [ 09-29-2016 01:57 PM | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | I purchased a Y700 in April. (New from Best Buy) By June, it had started shutting itself off and rebooting. By July, it had gotten to the point, where it would not stay on at all. I sent it in for repairs. I have called multiple times and I have been told that the hard drive was bad, that the motherboard was bad, that the OS won't work. I JUST bought this machine! They also cannot tell me when I will get it back. For weeks, I have been told | Sep 29 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… ) | Sep 29 22:31 | |
| DaemonFC | that the parts are on backorder. Seriously? | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, I was sold a defective machine. I have asked for a refund. Has anyone in here actually received a refund? | Sep 29 22:31 |
| <--acer-box______ has quit (Ping timeout: 263 seconds) | Sep 29 22:31 | |
| -->acer-box (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 22:34 | |
| MinceR | http://giphy.com/gifs/ssOa1XSMve0mI | Sep 29 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Drawing GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY | Sep 29 22:35 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/554md5/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Sep 29 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. [x-post from /r/lenovo] : technology | Sep 29 22:41 | |
| MinceR | that's an interesting "solution" | Sep 29 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Stuck in a customer service vindaloop. :) | Sep 29 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chicago is raising the tax on water again. | Sep 29 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | By $254 million. To go to teacher pensions. | Sep 29 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | And they got $210 million from Illinois as a bailout. | Sep 29 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | They asked the teachers union to take a small cut, so they authorized a teacher strike to begin on October 11. | Sep 29 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Their union said that as long as the government can take more money from taxpayers, they should do that instead. | Sep 29 23:04 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/PElA4kv.jpg | Sep 29 23:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @madisoncrooksh1 favourited 'OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in...' | Sep 29 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781618114584805376 | Sep 29 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How I Use Android: Android Central Editor Emeritus Phil | Sep 29 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nickinson https://t.co/s40Klu1ZIP (www.computerworld.com) | Sep 29 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I Use Android: Android Central Editor Emeritus Phil Nickinson | Computerworld | Sep 29 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781618267030970368 | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phones Under 5.7 Inches | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iKcnu2omPk (www.androidcentral.com) | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phones Under 5.7 Inches | Android Central | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781618447046348804 | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! https://t.co/oqy28liMtj | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.qubes-os.org) | Sep 29 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qubes-os.org | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! | Qubes OS Project | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781620019197255680 | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | servers https://t.co/fSXMb0pqIF (www.zdnet.com) | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and hybrid cloud | ZDNet | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781620903306227712 | Sep 29 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Hybrid Wars', a futuristic top-down mech shooter | Sep 29 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released with day-1 Linux support https://t.co/wrt6Ln1qS6 | Sep 29 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 29 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/hybrid-wars-a-futuristic-top-down-mech-shooter-released-with-day-1-linux-support-.8211 ) | Sep 29 23:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited ''Hybrid Wars', a futuristic top-down mech shooter released...' | Sep 29 23:31 | |
| cubexyz | I don't think I've seen any laptop I call easy to repair | Sep 29 23:40 |
| razielle_tzu | me neither | Sep 29 23:40 |
| schestowitz | [22:31] <DaemonFC> https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… | Sep 29 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… ) | Sep 29 23:42 | |
| schestowitz | bad link | Sep 29 23:42 |
| schestowitz | I cannot open this | Sep 29 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They removed it from technology. | Sep 29 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's still up in lenovo I think | Sep 29 23:42 |
| cubexyz | building the pitop took this one person 3 hours | Sep 29 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | from abrownn [M] via /r/technology sent 49 minutes ago | Sep 29 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for the following reason(s): | Sep 29 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Rule #1.vi: This submission is about one or more incidents of requesting customer support or is providing customer feedback about a product, company or service. | Sep 29 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | If you have any questions, please message the moderators and include the link to the submission. We apologize for the inconvenience. | Sep 29 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Sep 29 23:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : Lenovo | Sep 29 23:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781622396763643908 | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Budgie Remix 16.10 Beta 2 Officially Released with | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Budgie Desktop 10.2.7 https://t.co/ogxYdJQtJK | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Budgie Remix 16.10 Beta 2 Officially Released with Budgie Desktop 10.2.7 | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Budgie Remix 16.10 Beta 2 Officially Released...' | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| cubexyz | repasting the CPU is a bit of a foreign concept for me | Sep 29 23:46 |
| cubexyz | most heat is produced in the middle of the processor heatspreader | Sep 29 23:49 |
| cubexyz | ummm, a laptop might not have a heat spreader on the cpu | Sep 29 23:50 |
| cubexyz | anyways the old slot 1's have been running for 18 years | Sep 29 23:51 |
| cubexyz | and those did have a heat spreader | Sep 29 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | 1 min · | Sep 29 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | The House and Senate both voted to override President Obama's veto of JASTA, which will now allow victims of 9/11 to sue Saudi Arabia. | Sep 29 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote to both of Illinois' Senators and my Congresswoman to ask them all to override the President's veto. Our "alliance" with Saudi Arabia is inexcusable considering their human rights record. For many Saudis, it's as bad as living in Iran. The only reason that the US turned a blind eye to so many human rights abuses and the link between Saudi officials and 9/11 is because we needed their oil. | Sep 29 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | We need to reduce our consumption of oil for many reasons, but one of them is so that we no longer have to tolerate state sponsors of terrorism such as Saudi Arabia for fear of an oil embargo. | Sep 29 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/30/world/middleeast/chagrined-by-9-11-victims-law-saudis-rethink-us-alliance.html?_r=0 | Sep 29 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times | Sep 29 23:55 | |
| cubexyz | got to go with the HP NX9030 as the longevity champ for laptops | Sep 29 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, This might be embarrassing to Linus Torvalds. | Sep 30 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | He reportedly praised the Yoga 900 before going with the Dell XPS. | Sep 30 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-reveals-his-favorite-programming-laptop/ | Sep 30 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds reveals his favorite programming laptop | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/ptf8i ] | Sep 30 00:03 | |
| DaemonFC | The prior model, it seems. | Sep 30 00:03 |
| cubexyz | most likely | Sep 30 00:03 |
| MinceR | dHell garbage | Sep 30 00:03 |
| MinceR | how long until it falls to tiny pieces? 1 year? 2? | Sep 30 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It seems that Dell also charge $150 more for the one that comes with Ubuntu. | Sep 30 00:04 |
| cubexyz | ah, my Dell GX100 still works fine :) | Sep 30 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | So it's cheaper to buy Windows and then format it off the drive. | Sep 30 00:04 |
| MinceR | of course | Sep 30 00:04 |
| MinceR | selling it cheaper by the cost of a winblows license would be the honest thing to do | Sep 30 00:04 |
| cubexyz | 2001 era, original power supply | Sep 30 00:04 |
| MinceR | honesty is not the dHell way | Sep 30 00:04 |
| MinceR | making you pay extra for a turd shaped roughly like a computer and then revealing that there's no warranty is the dHell way | Sep 30 00:05 |
| cubexyz | I emailed Michael Dell for the BIOS source code, but didn't get a reply | Sep 30 00:05 |
| MinceR | as expected | Sep 30 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently, it's cheaper to use Windows. | Sep 30 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | They pay the Windows license, but make their money back and then some with crapware. | Sep 30 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft signs deals with large OEMs. They probably get Windows for $30-40 a copy. | Sep 30 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | Then they offer a crapware free version (signature) for more money. | Sep 30 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that they make you pay as much to get the one without crapware as they would have made off of you if you had registered the crapware. | Sep 30 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with Microsoft to the extent that they say that crapware makes a new computer slower and less reliable. | Sep 30 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Buy they *could* ban it in the Windows license. | Sep 30 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, they let OEMs charge more for PCs that come without it. | Sep 30 00:08 |
| MinceR | why would they do that? | Sep 30 00:08 |
| MinceR | they don't care about customers | Sep 30 00:08 |
| MinceR | all they care about is power and money | Sep 30 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They obviously want to be more like Apple. | Sep 30 00:09 |
| MinceR | they're pretty much the same already | Sep 30 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | They say Windows 10 is the last version of Windows. They're doing this thing like Apple did with "OS X" where it's always OS X now. | Sep 30 00:09 |
| MinceR | m$ and crApple should both be closed down so they can make good on that promise | Sep 30 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | MSFT pulls support for older builds almost immediately now. | Sep 30 00:10 |
| cubexyz | another deficiency of Dell is their BIOS updates, which are windows only | Sep 30 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | They release a few cumulative updates for people who haven't gotten the latest major update to Windows 10, and then drop the previous build. | Sep 30 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, That's not true. | Sep 30 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | They have a BIOS flashing mechanism for Linux. | Sep 30 00:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, it _was_ true | Sep 30 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why it would matter. | Sep 30 00:11 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't trust uefi updates anyway | Sep 30 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | uEFI *should* have an update mechanism from within the firmware setup menu. | Sep 30 00:11 |
| MinceR | any of them could lock out gnu/linux and bsd | Sep 30 00:11 |
| cubexyz | for the Dell GX-110 which I just mentioned | Sep 30 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Some OEMs disable it though. | Sep 30 00:11 |
| MinceR | no, uefi should not exist | Sep 30 00:11 |
| MinceR | the people who came up with it shouldn't have been born | Sep 30 00:12 |
| cubexyz | they wrapped the BIOS image in a windows-32 executable | Sep 30 00:12 |
| MinceR | none of this crap has any business existing in the IT industry, killing it | Sep 30 00:13 |
| MinceR | and killing our society | Sep 30 00:13 |
| cubexyz | there's an msdos version also, so yeah freedos might work | Sep 30 00:15 |
| cubexyz | Phoenix bios I think it was | Sep 30 00:17 |
| cubexyz | guess I could try nagging Phoenix for the BIOS source code | Sep 30 00:25 |
| cubexyz | none of my previous attempts at that were sucessful though | Sep 30 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781629863472009216 | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4 of the Best Linux Distros for Windows Users | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oCSd4po0CJ (www.maketecheasier.com) | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 00:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 4 of the Best Linux Distros for Windows Users - Make Tech Easier | Sep 30 00:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781633754699853824 | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nZDqbgm96x (www.linux.com) | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 00:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 30 00:27 | |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-self-driving-cars-are-tremendously-dumb-idea/ | Sep 30 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 Ways Driverless Cars Are Going To Kill Lots Of People | Cracked.com | Sep 30 00:28 | |
| cubexyz | a few years back there were complains about USB 2.0 devices not booting on phoenix bios | Sep 30 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Uber makes you agree that they won't be held liable for death or injury before you can get a ride in a driverless car. | Sep 30 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | What does that tell you? | Sep 30 00:36 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 30 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be taking the bus or the L or Metra. | Sep 30 00:37 |
| MinceR | but it will get worse | Sep 30 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | Uber canceled on us AGAIN the other day. | Sep 30 00:37 |
| MinceR | eventually m$, crApple and ratcrap will get into the business | Sep 30 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then when we brought up the app again, SURGE PRICING was in effect. | Sep 30 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | What a coincidence. | Sep 30 00:37 |
| MinceR | you can guess what will happen then | Sep 30 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Drivers cancel immediately when they see the surge notice because then they can get 2.5 times the normal fare. | Sep 30 00:38 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I want my ride to have literal BSOD | Sep 30 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Uber says it's not allowed, but they are doing it, and kep doing it, and Uber never does anything about it. | Sep 30 00:38 |
| MinceR | it will get much worse than BSOD | Sep 30 00:39 |
| MinceR | they'll ram pedestrians, other cars and buildings | Sep 30 00:39 |
| cubexyz | Phoenix also had HyperSpace and HyperCore, I wonder what happened to that | Sep 30 00:42 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Sep 30 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'en.wikipedihttps:' ( status 0 @ https://en.wikipedihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 ) | Sep 30 00:42 | |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Sep 30 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 ) | Sep 30 00:43 | |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Sep 30 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | HyperSpace (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 30 00:43 | |
| cubexyz | blah | Sep 30 00:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StuckJake/status/781639819860389888 | Sep 30 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@StuckJake: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Richard stallman eh? do you use KDE or gnome | Sep 30 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | Neither. Openbox. | Sep 30 00:44 |
| cubexyz | anyways back in the day Lenovo IdeaPad S10 had Hyperspace | Sep 30 00:46 |
| cubexyz | it was a really runty laptop :) | Sep 30 00:47 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 30 00:49 | |
| MinceR | i like runty | Sep 30 00:51 |
| MinceR | too bad they're gone now | Sep 30 00:51 |
| MinceR | everybody wants to lug huge displays around | Sep 30 00:52 |
| MinceR | preferably with low resolution | Sep 30 00:52 |
| cubexyz | btw Lenovo did another bad thing... | Sep 30 01:04 |
| razielle_tzu | what this time? | Sep 30 01:04 |
| cubexyz | on the x60 and t60's the original BIOS had a unique unrecoverable ID | Sep 30 01:05 |
| cubexyz | this ID had to be present or the laptop would not boot | Sep 30 01:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781636506859495424 | Sep 30 01:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 Doesn't Change Much With Performance, Clear | Sep 30 01:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Still Leads In Most Tests https://t.co/75tNzE6izR | Sep 30 01:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 30 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu 16.10 Doesn't Change Much With Performance, Clear Linux Still Leads In Most Tests - Phoronix | Sep 30 01:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 01:06 | |
| cubexyz | replacing the Lenovo BIOS with coreboot would fix this... but it was not an easy procedure | Sep 30 01:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781637228938362881 | Sep 30 01:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Endless OS 3: Linux for the Net Less | Sep 30 01:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JgANsZlCob (fossforce.com) | Sep 30 01:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 01:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Endless OS 3: Linux for the Net Less | FOSS Force | Sep 30 01:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781637452234645504 | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu's Shuttleworth Explains Why Not All Containers are | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Same https://t.co/wEbeA55DQi (www.datamation.com) | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu's Shuttleworth Explains Why Not All Containers are the Same - Datamation | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646411251130368 | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla's Rust 1.12 https://t.co/5DbTYyGUee | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla's Rust 1.12 | Tux Machines | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646412526133248 | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 Doesn't Change Much With Performance, Clear | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Still Leads In Most Tests https://t.co/XGuMIWNW8n | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 Doesn't Change Much With Performance, Clear Linux Still Leads In Most Tests | Tux Machines | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646413587329024 | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics: Mesa and Gallium3D | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8l43koQYoz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics: Mesa and Gallium3D | Tux Machines | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646414686277633 | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/raRjJ81kMO | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 30 01:07 | |
| cubexyz | probably worth it to pay the extra $$$ and get minifree to do it | Sep 30 01:07 |
| MinceR | nasty | Sep 30 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | If you haven't switched away from Adblock Plus to ublock-origin yet, you may want to. Adblock Plus is now not only whitelisting "acceptable ads", they're taking payments from ad companies to run their ads on web pages, bypassing Adblock Plus entirely. | Sep 30 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/13/12890050/adblock-plus-now-sells-ads | Sep 30 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Adblock Plus now sells ads - The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/ptfnq ] | Sep 30 01:33 | |
| MinceR | what about ABP forks like ABE? | Sep 30 01:34 |
| MinceR | i have "acceptable ads" turned off already | Sep 30 01:36 |
| MinceR | also, does ublock origin block youtube ads? | Sep 30 01:37 |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 01:43 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they would shoot themselves in the foot | Sep 30 01:47 |
| schestowitz | esp. if they enforce this | Sep 30 01:47 |
| schestowitz | it's not hard to copy them and make an alternative, some already exist | Sep 30 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It can block everything Adblock Plus can but uses fewer resources. | Sep 30 01:47 |
| MinceR | nice, i'll give it a try | Sep 30 01:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/johnnie789/status/781659079479402496 | Sep 30 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnnie789: @schestowitz @wikileaks @realDonaldTrump IS that 3rd Party candidate running as a Republican who hate him Dr. Expect a landslide | Sep 30 01:57 | |
| schestowitz | trump idiots | Sep 30 01:58 |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 30 01:58 | |
| DaemonFC | I suppose I'll vote for Hillary Clinton. | Sep 30 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | I have my reasons. The idea of Donald Trump appointing a Supreme Court full of Republicans that rubber stamp his entire presidency and then give us a conservative majority on the nation's highest court for 20 years or more doesn't sit well with me. | Sep 30 02:00 |
| MinceR | yeah, there aren't any really good choices there | Sep 30 02:03 |
| MinceR | as long as the majority believes only the Megacorporate Party exists | Sep 30 02:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7905708 | Sep 30 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The future of GNOME Calendar https://feaneron.com/2016/09/28/the-future-of-gnome-calendar/ | Sep 30 02:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 30 02:04 |
| schestowitz | “What will be removed? - Nothing (just a bait for the trolls)” | Sep 30 02:04 |
| schestowitz | I miss transparent background in my gnome-terminal :( | Sep 30 02:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 30 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> feaneron.com | The future of GNOME Calendar | Georges Stavracas | Sep 30 02:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Just use the right distribution. The Fedora maintainers still add the transparency function to gnome-terminal. ;-)' | Sep 30 02:05 |
| schestowitz | "Ubuntu does the same, but removing a working feature is just…' | Sep 30 02:05 |
| schestowitz | "Ubuntu too? Good to know. I don’t think that removing a feature is always a bad idea but in this case definitely." | Sep 30 02:05 |
| schestowitz | Does anyone here still use GNOME? | Sep 30 02:05 |
| schestowitz | i never do, not even the things that are close to gnome3 and 2 branches | Sep 30 02:05 |
| schestowitz | [01:59] <DaemonFC> I suppose I'll vote for Hillary Clinton. | Sep 30 02:05 |
| schestowitz | I remember you went from house to house campaigning for Obama | Sep 30 02:06 |
| schestowitz | didn't work out so well, did it? | Sep 30 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I did. In Huntington, Indiana to boot. Talk about risking your life. | Sep 30 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | Bunch of meth houses and hillbillies. Some good people there though. | Sep 30 02:06 |
| schestowitz | unless "not starting nuclear war" is an accomplishment | Sep 30 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Trump has openly considered nuclear attacks on various targets. | Sep 30 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | Asking why we couldn't do it... that sort of thing. | Sep 30 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | We haven't even had any nuclear weapons tests since 1992. We couldn't guarantee that any particular weapon could work at this point. | Sep 30 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | We probably have a few duds. | Sep 30 02:07 |
| schestowitz | yeah, a good thing for sure | Sep 30 02:08 |
| schestowitz | BUT... | Sep 30 02:08 |
| schestowitz | guess who signed to modernise this? | Sep 30 02:08 |
| schestowitz | Obama | Sep 30 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | IIRC, there was even a situation where they needed a special tool to work on the weapons and they only had one left and kept mailing it from base to base. | Sep 30 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Sep 30 02:08 |
| schestowitz | 1 trillion dollars? | Sep 30 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | But that's the government for you. | Sep 30 02:08 |
| schestowitz | right around the time he visited hiroshima | Sep 30 02:08 |
| schestowitz | maybe nagasaki too | Sep 30 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm in favor of bringing the count down, but we have to know that the ones we have work. | Sep 30 02:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you and G W Bush will have something in common | Sep 30 02:09 |
| schestowitz | you'll both support HRC for pres | Sep 30 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | We have more than that in common. | Sep 30 02:09 |
| schestowitz | campaign for Greens insread | Sep 30 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | Look at how many nukes were scrapped under George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush. | Sep 30 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | Then compare that number with Obama. | Sep 30 02:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7907982 | Sep 30 02:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro https://www.linux.com/news/googles-open-source-fuchsia-os-mystery-linux-distro | Sep 30 02:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Well, having dumped gmail, google.com and being smart enough to never get into google+ – good luck getting me to use ~the surveillance state~ Google distro. ;-)" | Sep 30 02:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro | Linux.com | The source for Linux information [ http://ur1.ca/ptfub ] | Sep 30 02:10 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: obama is nobel for peace winner | Sep 30 02:10 |
| schestowitz | don't make fun | Sep 30 02:10 |
| MinceR | i use fvwm with some xfce components (mainly xfce4-panel) | Sep 30 02:10 |
| schestowitz | he and kissinger now endorse HRC | Sep 30 02:10 |
| schestowitz | the "peace" Pres | Sep 30 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Of course we have a lot of questionable weapons programs in development, like Prompt Global Strike. | Sep 30 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | The non-nuclear ICBM that could easily set off early warning counterattack systems. | Sep 30 02:10 |
| MinceR | and you probably need them too | Sep 30 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Really expensive. | Sep 30 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's better to just launch cruise missiles from ships. | Sep 30 02:11 |
| MinceR | after humanity managed to arm all sorts of volatile religious nutcases with nuclear devices | Sep 30 02:11 |
| MinceR | like putler | Sep 30 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | Or submarines. You can launch the Tomahawk from a submarine. | Sep 30 02:11 |
| schestowitz | pakistan | Sep 30 02:11 |
| MinceR | and we still only have one earth | Sep 30 02:11 |
| MinceR | but this somehow can't penetrate the skulls of these bible-fucking morons | Sep 30 02:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I saw a docu on it | Sep 30 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I think PGS is a bad idea for many reasons. | Sep 30 02:11 |
| schestowitz | how they stay under water now when they launch the missiles | Sep 30 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | Cost and having to phone Russia and China to tell them it's not a nuke and it's not going after them... | Sep 30 02:12 |
| MinceR | if it can glass russia with less fallout and carbon black, i'm all for it | Sep 30 02:12 |
| schestowitz | from subs though the missiles aren't that massive | Sep 30 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | They have minutes to figure that out. Once it's in orbit, it could come down anywhere. | Sep 30 02:12 |
| schestowitz | and probably won't cluster in high altitude to evade defence systems | Sep 30 02:12 |
| schestowitz | so the sub needs to be fairly close to the target | Sep 30 02:12 |
| MinceR | those savages should have known better than let that nutcase grab power | Sep 30 02:13 |
| schestowitz | standard cruise missiles aren't all that useful | Sep 30 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Or drones. We've shown that we can hit a target with drones pretty easily. | Sep 30 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | Even if the enemy shoots it down, it was unmanned. | Sep 30 02:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no | Sep 30 02:13 |
| schestowitz | not a target | Sep 30 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | They don't kill or capture a pilot. | Sep 30 02:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-strikes_us_561fafe2e4b028dd7ea6c4ff | Sep 30 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Nearly 90 Percent Of People Killed In Recent Drone Strikes Were Not The Target | Huffington Post [ http://ur1.ca/ptfuy ] | Sep 30 02:13 | |
| schestowitz | unless by target you mean that and 10 times "other stuff" | Sep 30 02:13 |
| MinceR | they capture a computerized implementation, helping them exploit holes in it | Sep 30 02:13 |
| MinceR | unless it manages to self-destruct every time | Sep 30 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't see any reason to trust those numbers. | Sep 30 02:14 |
| schestowitz | iran allegedly cracked us drones | Sep 30 02:14 |
| schestowitz | I think they ran Windows at the time | Sep 30 02:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 30 02:14 |
| schestowitz | and iran got some binaries left on their system from the US | Sep 30 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They didn't exploit that. | Sep 30 02:14 |
| MinceR | what could possibly go wrong? | Sep 30 02:14 |
| schestowitz | which they then weaponised against the US (reportedly) | Sep 30 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | They interfered with the GPS and tricked it into landing in Iran. | Sep 30 02:14 |
| MinceR | we let those simpletons in redmond program killing devices, great | Sep 30 02:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that's exploit, too | Sep 30 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The stuxnet malware actually did its job pretty well. | Sep 30 02:15 |
| MinceR | who are too retarded to understand that stuffing multiple unrelated services in one process is not "hardened" or even "secure" | Sep 30 02:15 |
| schestowitz | if the drone isn't sanitising or verifying input | Sep 30 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | Managed to destroy a lot of expensive machinery before they figured out what hit them. | Sep 30 02:15 |
| MinceR | or that stuffing an entire GUI in the kernel is also not "hardened", "secure" or even sane | Sep 30 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, svchost? | Sep 30 02:16 |
| MinceR | yup | Sep 30 02:16 |
| MinceR | led by dave cutler whose entire achievement in IT is "hurr durr, i hate unix" | Sep 30 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it does lower overhead, but it opens up a can of worms elsewhere. | Sep 30 02:16 |
| schestowitz | give the penguin viagra and it's hardened | Sep 30 02:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, by eliminating memory protection | Sep 30 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | One service crashing can bring down the other services running in the process. | Sep 30 02:16 |
| MinceR | one service being exploited gives easy access to the others | Sep 30 02:16 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: or find some in Gonad's cardboard, when Lady Harmon ain't watching | Sep 30 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Sep 30 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Sep 30 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I took one of those just for the hell of it. | Sep 30 02:17 |
| schestowitz | it'll be hardened for a whole afternoon | Sep 30 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | That was a mistake. | Sep 30 02:17 |
| MinceR | it's incredible that we as a species somehow managed to find the most destructive morons and gave them all this power | Sep 30 02:17 |
| schestowitz | what, viagra? | Sep 30 02:17 |
| MinceR | despite having several hundred (thousand? more?) bright people | Sep 30 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah. I didn't need it. | Sep 30 02:18 |
| schestowitz | (re: all this power) | Sep 30 02:18 |
| schestowitz | aing | Sep 30 02:18 |
| schestowitz | zing | Sep 30 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | I grabbed them while we were getting all of mom's stuff out of that house while Gonad was at work. | Sep 30 02:18 |
| MinceR | but then, this problem will fix itself | Sep 30 02:18 |
| schestowitz | not for extinct animals | Sep 30 02:18 |
| MinceR | or for extinct humans | Sep 30 02:18 |
| schestowitz | they won't repopulate when we all kill each other | Sep 30 02:18 |
| MinceR | or for extinct eukaryotes | Sep 30 02:18 |
| MinceR | neither will the plants, after going for a few decades without sunlight | Sep 30 02:19 |
| schestowitz | extinct humans it's hard to feel sympaty for | Sep 30 02:19 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 30 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Then the idiot that I was living with managed to get the police in our apartment. They didn't find what they were investigating him for, but they did find Gonad's viagra. | Sep 30 02:19 |
| schestowitz | Trump blames China | Sep 30 02:19 |
| MinceR | why even listen to rump? | Sep 30 02:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't | Sep 30 02:19 |
| MinceR | strings /dev/urandom gives more clueful information | Sep 30 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | I told them that we were cleaning out mom's house so fast that I must have accidentally grabbed them. | Sep 30 02:19 |
| schestowitz | I try to support Greens now, rather than bash what ~80% of US citizens already know is garbage | Sep 30 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't a controlled substance, so they just took them and never filed charges. | Sep 30 02:20 |
| schestowitz | now it's time to promote alternatives to them | Sep 30 02:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I can't believe you do HRC promotion after you did Obama | Sep 30 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Not going door to door. | Sep 30 02:21 |
| MinceR | obama's way of destroying the usa and the world is still far slower than Golden Dawnald's | Sep 30 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | from scootstah [-1] via /r/linux sent 13 minutes ago | Sep 30 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | show parent | Sep 30 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | So what does Lenovo have to gain by purposefully fucking over Linux specifically? Keep in mind that Windows is also broken in this configuration until the appropriate drivers are loaded. | Sep 30 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | To me it just sounds like incompetence the whole way down. It's not a nefarious act. | Sep 30 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | contextfull comments (172)reportblock usermark unreadreply | Sep 30 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 30 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | It could be incompetence, but the company is really shady. They move customer complaints like "I sent in my laptop four months ago. Where is it?" to a "special interest" forum so people won't see that. | Sep 30 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Sep 30 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : Lenovo | Sep 30 02:24 | |
| DaemonFC | They quietly moderated the Linux discussion so it doesn't appear locked (the topic about Yoga 900 not running Linux), but you can't post anything to it. | Sep 30 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | They quietly banned everyone who said they were taking their laptop back for a refund or similar comments. | Sep 30 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | These people are crooks. | Sep 30 02:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: true, but that's not so high a challenge | Sep 30 02:31 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 30 02:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's like saying Orban is a moderate "because Jobbik" | Sep 30 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | brb going to the store | Sep 30 02:32 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 02:32 | |
| MinceR | jobbik supported fidesz/kdnp's steps against democracy and rule of law | Sep 30 02:33 |
| MinceR | iirc | Sep 30 02:33 |
| MinceR | they're the same crap | Sep 30 02:33 |
| MinceR | orban merely knows how to mind his tongue better | Sep 30 02:33 |
| schestowitz | is there an eggattack version of the game with Nadella in it? | Sep 30 02:34 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of it | Sep 30 02:34 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S30WdoEHCH4 | Sep 30 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ballmer egg attack! (Hungarian TV2) - YouTube | Sep 30 02:35 | |
| schestowitz | jobbik voter for sure | Sep 30 02:36 |
| schestowitz | him mom packed him his balls | Sep 30 02:36 |
| MinceR | not like that did anything anyway | Sep 30 02:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781646416007483392 | Sep 30 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/etkbKnp0OE | Sep 30 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 02:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Sep 30 02:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781651789548486656 | Sep 30 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME Calendar Pencils In Great New Features | Sep 30 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cCje3XbxuO (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 30 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 02:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | GNOME Calendar Pencils In Great New Features - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 30 02:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781651967571525632 | Sep 30 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | [How To] Build an Ubuntu Controlled Sous-Vide Cooker | Sep 30 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MMhvKsfDQu (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 30 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 02:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | [How To] Build an Ubuntu Controlled Sous-Vide Cooker - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 30 02:51 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: got him arrested | Sep 30 02:54 |
| schestowitz | and famous for a day | Sep 30 02:54 |
| schestowitz | or infamous | Sep 30 02:54 |
| MinceR | didn't even hinder m$'s schemes | Sep 30 02:55 |
| MinceR | nor their corruption in hungary | Sep 30 02:55 |
| MinceR | didn't even make hungarians care about the issue, though that's probably not his fault | Sep 30 03:03 |
| MinceR | well, neither is the rest, i guess | Sep 30 03:03 |
| MinceR | there's still plenty of slavish devotion to m$ in this cesspit of a country | Sep 30 03:03 |
| MinceR | i guess these people are masochists, they want to be oppressed and abused | Sep 30 03:03 |
| -->dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 03:20 | |
| <--dipper_sauce has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 30 03:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781673521755938816 | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 29/9/2016: Russia Moving to FOSS, New Nmap and | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PostgreSQL Releases https://t.co/sqHbCr7wdw | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 03:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/9/2016: Russia Moving to FOSS, New Nmap and PostgreSQL Releases | Techrights | Sep 30 03:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683286535876609 | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/e447fJd0tG | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 03:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Sep 30 03:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683287878012928 | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/LJ3Ubk4h1K | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 03:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Sep 30 03:33 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 04:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683289002160128 | Sep 30 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More Android Leftovers https://t.co/uE65sbpMBv | Sep 30 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 04:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 04:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683290012909569 | Sep 30 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/LPRMBQnVIz | Sep 30 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 04:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Sep 30 04:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781683291313152001 | Sep 30 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Releases https://t.co/wYqXeIpfuI | Sep 30 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 04:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Releases | Tux Machines | Sep 30 04:45 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They banned me from posting on the Lenovo Facebook page. I can comment, but it gets deleted immediately. | Sep 30 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | So I used my other account to keep commenting. | Sep 30 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | And they banned me from their forum again because I linked to that customer support post where they've had that person's laptop since June and keep bullshitting them about when it will come back from the repair center. | Sep 30 04:46 |
| -->tessier_ (~treed@kernel-panic/copilotco) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 05:08 | |
| DaemonFC | I left a message on some Spanish language websites talking about Microsoft and Lenovo. | Sep 30 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo y Microsoft trabajaron juntos para asegurarse de que sus equipos de yoga serían incompatibles con Linux. No comprar computadoras de Lenovo. Son un enemigo de su libertad. | Sep 30 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | I had to use Google Translate, so I decided to stay short and to the point. | Sep 30 05:09 |
| <--tessier has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 30 05:11 | |
| DaemonFC | I posted to my Facebook page: | Sep 30 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | Before you buy a computer, know this. Lenovo has an entire hidden forum where it moves all of the embarrassing customer service posts so that nobody will ever see how they treat their customers. | Sep 30 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/General-Discussion/bd-p/Special_Interest_General | Sep 30 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | General Discussion - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/ptgpw ] | Sep 30 05:16 | |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 05:17 | |
| DaemonFC | Like "Why have you had my laptop since June? Everyone tells me a different reason why they can't send it back." | Sep 30 05:18 |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-091-096-176-042.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 05:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @starryg16 favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 30 06:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 30 06:24 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 06:43 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 06:44 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I just reviewed Windows 10 on Amazon. | Sep 30 07:28 |
| -->DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 08:07 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 30 08:11 | |
| -->DaemonFC`` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 08:12 | |
| <--DaemonFC` has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 30 08:16 | |
| <--DaemonFC`` has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 08:17 | |
| -->DaemonFC`` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 08:18 | |
| ---DaemonFC`` is now known as DaemonFC | Sep 30 08:20 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/conspiracy-theorists-think-donald-trump-might-be-andy-kaufman-in-disguise | Sep 30 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nme.com | Is Donald Trump Actually Andy Kaufman In Disguise | Sep 30 08:34 | |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 08:40 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 30 08:40 |
| razielle_tzu | hi | Sep 30 08:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh your here razielle_tzu | Sep 30 08:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 30 08:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | morning :) | Sep 30 08:40 |
| razielle_tzu | i'm always here, just not always active | Sep 30 08:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | h eh ok | Sep 30 08:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, old guy gotton a bit silly with me agian..... | Sep 30 08:41 |
| razielle_tzu | oh? | Sep 30 08:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since there aren't flyers going round to universties etc right now | Sep 30 08:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in fact the other guy is sorting out a bit of a better flyer than the one I made | Sep 30 08:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, he's just worried that there won't be many peopl etc | Sep 30 08:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | he wants a good turn out etc | Sep 30 08:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yes marketitng is difficult | Sep 30 08:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whatever is done | Sep 30 08:42 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 08:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, plus I got other tasks to do | Sep 30 08:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | still not got music fully sorted for example | Sep 30 08:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, do you think i's to much to play just one band for quite a while at begining, that may be a bit much? | Sep 30 08:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | beter to mix like you said before? | Sep 30 08:43 |
| razielle_tzu | a mix is always good | Sep 30 08:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | build up to something a bit more rocky etc ? | Sep 30 08:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah if I play my current favourite banc | Sep 30 08:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Crimson Blue | Sep 30 08:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | band above | Sep 30 08:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, then may be hard to tal about stuff acstaully whilst that's on a lot :d | Sep 30 08:44 |
| razielle_tzu | you want it loud enough to hear but still be able to talk over it | Sep 30 08:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | plus if you start with your best music | Sep 30 08:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whats going to play louder ? | Sep 30 08:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | later I mean above | Sep 30 08:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | indeed vlume will be some where in middle | Sep 30 08:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, why is it beter to mix, than play lots of one band, then move on to another? | Sep 30 08:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since one ban could get borring? | Sep 30 08:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or not be up to everyones taste ? | Sep 30 08:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and actsaull yhea if people are only there roughly about half an hour at least, and I am playing only one thing, then that's all they hear music wise hmm, that wasn't the idea | Sep 30 08:46 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah, that's about the gist of why everyone mixes unless you're showcasing a band | Sep 30 08:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I guess that settles that one then acsaully, what I Just put, mix | Sep 30 08:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | do a mix | Sep 30 08:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they are meant to hear more than just one band | Sep 30 08:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I Haven' installed mnixx yet ,but you said the auto dj feature works quite well and easy it do ? | Sep 30 08:46 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 08:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yep I'll use that and gie it a go when on lap top next! | Sep 30 08:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, still got to go down http://cchits | Sep 30 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'cchits' ( status 0 @ http://cchits ) | Sep 30 08:47 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | !google cchits | Sep 30 08:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | No Google results | Sep 30 08:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | http://cchits.net | Sep 30 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cchits.net | CCHits | Sep 30 08:47 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, find more music, that isn't sucky love songs | Sep 30 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > But I'm not going to blog about that case anymore. I still have the same | Sep 30 08:47 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | a lot on there | Sep 30 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > opinions but just like with the EPO stuff, I need to focus. Except, on | Sep 30 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > the EPO I can retweet you and on #googacle there's no prolific blogger | Sep 30 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > who would be on my side :-) | Sep 30 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 08:47 |
| schestowitz | > I am, by the way, exploring strategic alternatives for the FOSS Patents | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > blog. I may sell it to an industry group (provided I agree with them at | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > least on some key issues... will never find any I agree with 100%) or | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > media company. One of the ideas is to turn it into an inclusive, far | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > more open platform on which professionals can post opinions on key IP | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > and antitrust matters. Not like a Slashdot or Reddit, of course. But not | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > a one-man show either. We'll see where this goes. It's also possible | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > that I just leave it where it is for another year or so. | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 08:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, sucky love songs for my event, no thanks | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > Best regards, | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | It's a shame because you're a good writer and you rarely seem to exercise that skill anymore. | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | I think selling something on blogspot is hard; remember Fake Steve Jobs.. | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | -- | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy S. Schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E | Sep 30 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Schestowitz.com Software Solutions | Sep 30 08:48 | |
| schestowitz | Editor @ http://techrights.org & http://tuxmachines.org | Sep 30 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Sep 30 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? | Sep 30 08:48 | |
| schestowitz | Tel: (+44) 0161 275 91 09 | Mobile: (+44) 077 75 76 97 84 | Sep 30 08:48 |
| schestowitz | (sounds like FOSSPatenta is almost over now) | Sep 30 08:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in other news sch | Sep 30 08:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in other news schestowitz | Sep 30 08:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | flooded the channel | Sep 30 08:48 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | with this time looked like stuff that no one would really care about | Sep 30 08:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | else | Sep 30 08:49 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | somtimes it's good, but not htis time it seems | Sep 30 08:49 |
| razielle_tzu | guess so | Sep 30 08:50 |
| schestowitz | SebthreeBQM10HD: it's pretty big news | Sep 30 08:50 |
| schestowitz | historically speaking, that blog mattered | Sep 30 08:50 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah it did | Sep 30 08:50 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 08:51 | |
| razielle_tzu | pity it might be the end of it | Sep 30 08:51 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | uhmm | Sep 30 08:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it just looked like flood to me :D | Sep 30 08:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I just had a litle more proper look | Sep 30 08:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | still not sure what that's about, when just skimming through a bit | Sep 30 08:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | some srot of blog someting or hte other | Sep 30 08:53 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 08:53 | |
| -->cxkn (579d0b1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.157.11.30) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 08:54 | |
| cxkn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moNl6AOUUr4 | Sep 30 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shawn Mendes Treat You Better (Leroy Sanchez & Levi Cover) - YouTube | Sep 30 08:54 | |
| <--cxkn has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 30 08:55 | |
| razielle_tzu | o.O | Sep 30 08:56 |
| razielle_tzu | wow, all my sysadmin tasks are done already... thought i had more to do today | Sep 30 08:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ok well then event tasks for you for my event :d h eh h eh | Sep 30 08:59 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 30 08:59 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, go through http://linuxvoice.com what can we use :D | Sep 30 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/ ) | Sep 30 08:59 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | h eh | Sep 30 08:59 |
| razielle_tzu | can't use anything that is less than 90 days old | Sep 30 09:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | indeed | Sep 30 09:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the older guy did suggest a good article acstaully | Sep 30 09:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yes linuxvoice is good in that sense it all goes under CC :) | Sep 30 09:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | when it's old enough | Sep 30 09:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, unforutantly though I got post yesterday it was the linu voice magainze | Sep 30 09:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | went through | Sep 30 09:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it looking for events and uh nothing! | Sep 30 09:00 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | nothing in there at all about events from what I could see in fact, any events | Sep 30 09:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ,but I had contacted them like two months ago about adding in, then about a month ago again since no resposne the first time | Sep 30 09:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, so looks like it won't be mentioned in there as well then! | Sep 30 09:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | as well as the two other magaines | Sep 30 09:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ok that would have mainly bought geeks in, but still hmm | Sep 30 09:01 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's ashame really not having at least one! | Sep 30 09:01 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 09:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, next issue is after my event I Gess so yep what I Just put | Sep 30 09:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the magazine I got yesterday is the one where ither should have been a mention! | Sep 30 09:02 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD isn't impressed with the Linux Voice team | Sep 30 09:02 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it sounded quite maybe possibly when I did get a response, they are like thanks for the reminder... and now no mention hmm | Sep 30 09:03 |
| razielle_tzu | most of them were Format members | Sep 30 09:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I guess the fact that have mett them in perosn like twice or so since ogg camp, doesn't actasully have much waight etc | Sep 30 09:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | plus I was one of what about 300 or so people anyway | Sep 30 09:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | altough people generally remember me, that hae mett me in person | Sep 30 09:03 |
| razielle_tzu | fair | Sep 30 09:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe they thought it was going to go in one or two of the other magazines anyway or possibly, since I put something hmmm. but either way, it was meant to go into linux voice | Sep 30 09:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I should have contacted the other two magines or tried to a bit arlier | Sep 30 09:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, with Linux Format it's simpally that by the time I contacted, it was probably a bit to late really to get it in | Sep 30 09:04 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah that's possible | Sep 30 09:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | linux user and developer no response there, maybe that was the wrong email address | Sep 30 09:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well I contacted someoneone from future publishing for linux format, who also cc'd in th right guy | Sep 30 09:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | it generally did sound that I was a bit to late there to get in when contacted etc | Sep 30 09:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, geting a Mozilal fan boy to come again, well they aren't really fan boys or they are, but in a offical way :d, Mozilla reps yeah :) | Sep 30 09:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, a differnet on form las time, but yes that's mainly to get swag as well :) | Sep 30 09:09 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Sep 30 09:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | let them do their Mozilla stuff at your event, and you get swag :), hopefully more than just stickers this time | Sep 30 09:09 |
| razielle_tzu | swag is good, shame it's mozilla based though | Sep 30 09:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I think I know who it is that I am getting or sort of, going to email him as well today, but last time ther was a guy in IRC, who really wanted to be a Mozilla rep, but he was to young at the time | Sep 30 09:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | however it seems to be him | Sep 30 09:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I the guy I had last time, has moevd onto university etc, so no longer a rep | Sep 30 09:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | he was going to go off to university | Sep 30 09:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I Guess the guy I am getting instead, is 18 or so now so | Sep 30 09:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/781760844111556608 | Sep 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 29/9/2016: Russia Moving to FOSS, New Nmap and | Sep 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz PostgreSQL Releases https://t.co/sqHbCr7wdw | Sep 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Sep 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 09:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/9/2016: Russia Moving to FOSS, New Nmap and PostgreSQL Releases | Techrights | Sep 30 09:11 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, shame it's mozilla swag why? they have some decent stuff as well | Sep 30 09:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the stickers are alright, but ideally I would want something a bit more decent | Sep 30 09:11 |
| razielle_tzu | i'm sure the swag itself is fine, i just have issues with the foundation and the browser | Sep 30 09:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Russia movin gto FOSS that would be no suprise | Sep 30 09:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, issues with the foundation and browser why ? | Sep 30 09:12 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 09:12 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I think they could have pushed FIrefo OS more and in the developerd world as well | Sep 30 09:12 |
| razielle_tzu | too long to get into | Sep 30 09:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | may of had more of a player then | Sep 30 09:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I mean take Tizne for exmple, yes my Tien phone came a few days ago | Sep 30 09:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's got quite a few apps it seems, why? since it's got samsung behind it | Sep 30 09:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Mozilla has become a more known brand name sinc 2004 as well it really has, they could have done so much more with FIrefoX Os IF ONLy they wanted to | Sep 30 09:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | instad they gave up as a mobile os, but still on panasonic tvs | Sep 30 09:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, it basically leaves Ubuntu and maybe kind of Jolla, as the two Linux players, who may go main strema or become more popular | Sep 30 09:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that aren't Andoid or to lik it lie Tizen | Sep 30 09:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, honestly TIzen is like Samsungs copy of Android from what I Have seen | Sep 30 09:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | very similar to Android | Sep 30 09:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so not that exciting! | Sep 30 09:14 |
| razielle_tzu | i like android, i just don't like the stock roms that most phones have | Sep 30 09:14 |
| razielle_tzu | they're full of bloatware and other crap | Sep 30 09:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well if you have useds a samsung phone | Sep 30 09:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | android | Sep 30 09:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then you get samsungs stuff | Sep 30 09:15 |
| razielle_tzu | i have two and neither have the stock rom | Sep 30 09:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Tizen has smasungs kind of stuff as part of hte os of course | Sep 30 09:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they rquire you to use a samsung account to use tizen for example | Sep 30 09:15 |
| razielle_tzu | you need an account to use the phone? | Sep 30 09:15 |
| razielle_tzu | like you can't do anything without being logged in to a samsung account? | Sep 30 09:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah don't get paritucarly far before logging into samsung account | Sep 30 09:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and it says how it's required etc | Sep 30 09:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | on the phone set up | Sep 30 09:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the google account on the other hand is optional though | Sep 30 09:16 |
| razielle_tzu | i think i'll pass on tizen then | Sep 30 09:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then got to also accept some kind of lisnce agreemet like propriaty software | Sep 30 09:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | altough it's under apche I think or the oepn source bits | Sep 30 09:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | apache | Sep 30 09:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, requiring an acocunt to us the phone which seems to be the case, i'll check when I Factory re set the tizen phone for fun and see what that's like | Sep 30 09:17 |
| razielle_tzu | i'm not going to use a phone that requires me to register an account just to use the basic functionality of the damned hardware | Sep 30 09:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yes requirng it , is like vender lock in | Sep 30 09:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well you can use it, for the uhmm boot up screen, and part of the installer, without the account :d | Sep 30 09:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yes indeed to what you put, and I know what you meant | Sep 30 09:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, if can't do basics wihtout the account, then that's vender lock in | Sep 30 09:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | forcing people to use account | Sep 30 09:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | tigh them into samsung | Sep 30 09:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I happended to have a old account anyay that I re set the password for, since my first smart phone or proper one | Sep 30 09:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | was the Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini | Sep 30 09:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I got that insead of the Nexus whatever, that the geeks were going on about back then, since well that was sold out so | Sep 30 09:19 |
| razielle_tzu | any time i reset my android phones i get to skip logging in or registering a new google account and go straight to the home screen | Sep 30 09:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so didn't get a device wih stock android | Sep 30 09:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well Tizen has the red, required | Sep 30 09:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for the samsung account | Sep 30 09:20 |
| razielle_tzu | that's stupid and a reason i won't use tizen | Sep 30 09:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well you can't really anyway for now, unlesss you buy a smart watch from some where they do sell in the uk or one does | Sep 30 09:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the phones have to buy directly from India for now | Sep 30 09:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | like I did | Sep 30 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point 2 minutes ago | Sep 30 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | At least the occasional good tech support agent exists at Dell. At LOL NO! VO they have no customer support. | Sep 30 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | They told this person to ship their computer to Lenovo's repair center in July. Tomorrow it will be October, and they keep giving this person a different excuse about why they can't send it back every time. | Sep 30 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/General-Discussion/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-to-Tell-Me-What-s-Wrong-with-my-Computer/m-p/3442008#M31430 | Sep 30 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | Go looking through the "Special Interest Discussions", which is where Lenovo mods put all of the horror stories like this one. | Sep 30 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/General-Discussion/bd-p/Special_Interest_General | Sep 30 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Lenovo Can't Seem to Tell Me What's Wrong with my ... - Lenovo Community | Sep 30 09:21 | |
| DaemonFC | But what do you want from a company that wrote BIOS code whose sole purpose is to block Linux on the Yoga? | Sep 30 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | Be prepared to deal with the same thing on LOL NO! VO's other lineups, since they said that they're "leading the industry" in the change to abuse RAID as a way of covering up Windows driver loading problems. | Sep 30 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | General Discussion - Lenovo Community | Sep 30 09:21 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, it's vinder lock in | Sep 30 09:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they want pepople using android stuff | Sep 30 09:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I Mean | Sep 30 09:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | samsung | Sep 30 09:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | lots of ocmpanies do that, find a way to tigh people into their stuff | Sep 30 09:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | APple do it | Sep 30 09:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Google do it | Sep 30 09:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc | Sep 30 09:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Microsoft do it | Sep 30 09:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc | Sep 30 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> iPhone 7 is exploding now | Sep 30 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> https://www.yahoo.com/tech/yup-now-iphone-7-exploding-140558885.html lol | Sep 30 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> clearly appears to be an isolated incident | Sep 30 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | <Zombie58> huh | Sep 30 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | <KtecK> It's amazing it's not happenig more often | Sep 30 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | <KtecK> those littl batterys are packed with soo much potential for good and damage | Sep 30 09:22 |
| razielle_tzu | and i'll look for ways out of it, as always | Sep 30 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> iPhone: It may occasionally explode, but at least you don't have a headphone jack. :) | Sep 30 09:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | Yup, now the iPhone 7 is exploding | Sep 30 09:22 | |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Apple said they had the courage to drop something that hasn't innovated in years, which is more than you can say for their customers. | Sep 30 09:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah | Sep 30 09:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, they may want hte ccount to spy on you to :D | Sep 30 09:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I Think I Trust Canoncal the most of the lot | Sep 30 09:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | when it comes to phones and tables | Sep 30 09:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and spying etc | Sep 30 09:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I mean not to do it | Sep 30 09:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, oh and yeah Salifish Jolla as well | Sep 30 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | SebthreeBQM10HD, I'm not sure you can trust Canonical. | Sep 30 09:25 |
| razielle_tzu | me neither | Sep 30 09:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | you can more than | Sep 30 09:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | say | Sep 30 09:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Micrsooft | Sep 30 09:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and Apple | Sep 30 09:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and Google | Sep 30 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | Meh. They'll do whatever they can get away with. | Sep 30 09:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | unless your DaemonFC becaue then your on Canonicals hit list | Sep 30 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | I can't even install Ubuntu if I want to. | Sep 30 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | My Lenovo laptop won't allow it. | Sep 30 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | Client: HexChat 2.12.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6560U CPU @ 2.20GHz (2.21GHz) • Memory: 15.9 GiB Total (10.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 151.0 GiB / 475.7 GiB (324.6 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics 540 • Uptime: 1w 1d 22h 51m 16s | Sep 30 09:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | DaemonFC, no need buy a tablet or phone | Sep 30 09:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | DaemonFC, and there you go a nice working Ubuntu for many things :) | Sep 30 09:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | unless you want to play pokemon go | Sep 30 09:26 |
| razielle_tzu | DaemonFC: yoga? | Sep 30 09:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and use whatsapp etc | Sep 30 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | razielle_tzu, Yeah. | Sep 30 09:27 |
| razielle_tzu | ouch | Sep 30 09:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | DaemonFC, razielle_tzu hmm I read no Unity 8 seesion to try in Ubuntu 16.10 BEta 2 | Sep 30 09:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but that's meant to be coming | Sep 30 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | I spent the better part of four days trying to embarrass them for that. | Sep 30 09:27 |
| razielle_tzu | unity blows | Sep 30 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well. Hopefully the Linux 4.9 or 4.10 kernel gets power management in good shape for Skylake and gets around the RAID crap. | Sep 30 09:28 |
| razielle_tzu | DaemonFC: we can only hope | Sep 30 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | From what I hear the power management in 4.8 is better than it has been, but not ideal. | Sep 30 09:28 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | There's 8 stages of power save mode for Skylake and the current stable Ubuntu carries a kernel that can't get past stage 3. | Sep 30 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | So it'd going to chew through your battery, and Intel warns that this could reduce the life of your laptop. | Sep 30 09:29 |
| razielle_tzu | i only use ubuntu itself on my servers (and to provide a thin client network at the computer club) | Sep 30 09:29 |
| razielle_tzu | everything else is mint, arch or devuan now | Sep 30 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably use Fedora when I can install any distribution. | Sep 30 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | Power management would be in the best shape in the latest kernel. | Sep 30 09:30 |
| razielle_tzu | i haven't played with that for a while | Sep 30 09:31 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 10:11 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 10:28 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 10:31 | |
| <--Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 11:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781768302213332992 | Sep 30 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS | Sep 30 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sierra Benchmarks https://t.co/g3zFs2JIKg | Sep 30 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 30 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS Sierra Benchmarks - Phoronix | Sep 30 11:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781785898769911808 | Sep 30 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Sep 30 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DU025ga6mp (www.networkworld.com) | Sep 30 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Sep 30 11:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799207581646848 | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DE0TA3uvrT (hackerboards.com) | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Sep 30 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799934433439744 | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sierra Benchmarks https://t.co/2CaTfGiwei | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS Sierra Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799935725350912 | Sep 30 11:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Sep 30 11:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2TtmAWEaN3 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:17 | |
| <--ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 30 11:17 | |
| -->ohama (ohama@cicolina.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799936765472768 | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10 reasons why CIOs should consider open source software | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/e5kAmDffIY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 reasons why CIOs should consider open source software | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799938141237248 | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i4eQDl92D0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799939168874497 | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.7.6 https://t.co/ljNhDB1TxH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.7.6 | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781800154630328320 | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.7.6 https://t.co/WjvBdIacOV (lwn.net) Linux | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.23 https://t.co/tXZA0DW4BJ (lwn.net) | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.7.6 [LWN.net] | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.4.23 [LWN.net] | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -->Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:32 | |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:55 | |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 11:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781800861206994944 | Sep 30 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & | Sep 30 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Bucks https://t.co/u34LjtZOne (www.fsf.org) | Sep 30 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & GNU Bucks — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | Sep 30 11:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781804094776377344 | Sep 30 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Thank you: Android manufacturers finally listened to | Sep 30 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | users in 2016 https://t.co/YhfhZefV1Q (thenextweb.com) | Sep 30 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Thank you: Android manufacturers finally listened to us in 2016 | Sep 30 11:56 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/j4vxs9O.jpg | Sep 30 12:08 |
| MinceR | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1247056 | Sep 30 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1247056 – Require PulseAudio on Linux | Sep 30 12:17 | |
| MinceR | congratulations mozilla, failfox is now garbage | Sep 30 12:17 |
| cubexyz | I've been using google chrome more lately | Sep 30 12:29 |
| cubexyz | no way should libpulse be a hard dependency, that's silly | Sep 30 12:31 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 12:31 |
| cubexyz | so what are the BSDs going to do? | Sep 30 12:34 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Snapzu_Tech favourited 'Thank you: Android manufacturers finally listened to users...' | Sep 30 12:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781819143087616000 | Sep 30 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Just a heads up, Saints Row: The Third on Linux has | Sep 30 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | broken co-op play https://t.co/PwoeWqDwjC (error) | Sep 30 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 12:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/just-a-heads-up-saints-row-the-third-on-linux-has-broken-co-op-play.8215 ) | Sep 30 12:36 | |
| cubexyz | ok, there's evidently a FreeBSD and NetBSD port | Sep 30 12:37 |
| cubexyz | I don't bother running firefox on openbsd anyways | Sep 30 12:39 |
| cubexyz | the openbsd box only as 256 megs of ram | Sep 30 12:39 |
| cubexyz | no libpulse on my older vector box either | Sep 30 12:42 |
| cubexyz | I don't see why firefox would have to use pulse | Sep 30 12:48 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 12:50 | |
| cubexyz | sebsebseb might be stuck at 512 megs max on that Sun Ultra 5 | Sep 30 13:04 |
| cubexyz | Ultra 10 is probably better... at least it can go 1 gig for ram | Sep 30 13:05 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/y9QapA4 | Sep 30 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The local news is trying to tell us something... - Imgur | Sep 30 13:06 | |
| cubexyz | the PROM monitor operates even when the main OS is halted which is kind of nice | Sep 30 13:13 |
| cubexyz | I wonder how seb will react to no flash :) | Sep 30 13:16 |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 30 13:18 | |
| razielle_tzu | heh | Sep 30 13:22 |
| -->liberty_box_ (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 13:24 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 13:27 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/dd1-19.jpg | Sep 30 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781819936704454656 | Sep 30 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Sundered', a beautiful hand-drawn action game coming to | Sep 30 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux next year https://t.co/jP9UZNJCqJ (error) | Sep 30 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/sundered-a-beautiful-hand-drawn-action-game-coming-to-linux-next-year.8216 ) | Sep 30 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781819961488596993 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rotate different shapes made out of blocks into holes in | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Security Hole', now on Linux https://t.co/zftuZCD5Rw | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 30 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/rotate-different-shapes-made-out-of-blocks-into-holes-in-security-hole-now-on-linux.8217 ) | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @eaj followed @tuxmachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836949485031424 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Bucks https://t.co/h1TAythO1R (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & GNU Bucks | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836950953086976 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/UpOG85QRd2 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836952001585152 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/uyzUegvcyX | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/mmwuluU.jpg | Sep 30 14:08 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 30 14:32 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 14:42 | |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 14:50 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGr3Aeytf3I | Sep 30 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super Street Fighter II - COSPLAY Challengers - YouTube | Sep 30 14:58 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/U5naJm5.jpg | Sep 30 15:20 |
| <--dblaber has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | Sep 30 16:02 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/GCZICoS.jpg | Sep 30 16:03 |
| -->dblaber (~dmb@pool-71-172-246-73.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836952962076673 | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/4scghizLRK | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836954233020418 | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/oJcWWeGP1v | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781871106789703680 | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/oYmvfdiSBK | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/O2cSW5r | Sep 30 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This app would like to sj with my Google account - Imgur | Sep 30 16:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781873742657880065 | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/6RMkFNuTTE | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 30 16:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/781878348435877888 | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/oYmvfdiSBK | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:30 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:30 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9zirDym.jpg | Sep 30 16:37 |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.129.63) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/781879087677710340 | Sep 30 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: There's also _long term_ money in erasing history, culture, countries and people, and co-opting their land and reso… https://t.co/hWUj80LD2J | Sep 30 16:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: There's also _long term_ money in erasing history, culture, countries and people, and co-opting their land and reso… https://t.co/hWUj80LD2J | Sep 30 16:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781878782508531712 | Sep 30 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | I think ‘Particle Fleet: Emergence’ just became my new | Sep 30 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux gaming addiction https://t.co/Vfz4PNwrfQ (error) | Sep 30 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/i-think-particle-fleet-emergence-just-became-my-new-linux-gaming-addiction.8219 ) | Sep 30 16:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 16:56 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 16:59 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 17:09 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 30 17:18 | |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.129.63) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:18 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) | Sep 30 17:19 | |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.129.63) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781891471251087362 | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/mrnVQ1CDOE | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 17:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 17:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781891472282968064 | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Spherical Stereo VR https://t.co/IzSBBzEx9g | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 17:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with Spherical Stereo VR | Tux Machines | Sep 30 17:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 17:30 | |
| -->pidgin_log (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 17:36 | |
| <--TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 17:37 | |
| -->TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:38 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 17:38 | |
| -->grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.151.146) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:50 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 30 17:51 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:52 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 30 17:52 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:52 | |
| <--grapefroot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 18:08 | |
| MinceR | http://krautchan.net/files/1475240858001.webm | Sep 30 18:09 |
| MinceR | (short-lived link) | Sep 30 18:10 |
| schestowitz | looking | Sep 30 18:29 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oqXVx3sBOk | Sep 30 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blur - Coffee And TV - YouTube | Sep 30 18:29 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wow, water through the electrics | Sep 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz | just seen it | Sep 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz | we have a leak too these days | Sep 30 18:32 |
| schestowitz | coming through window/roof | Sep 30 18:32 |
| MinceR | in the usa, you instead get fossil fuel through the water pipes | Sep 30 18:32 |
| schestowitz | almost impossible to block, we just use a towel when it rains heavily | Sep 30 18:32 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with...' | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909764607401984 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Accelerometers https://t.co/T1jvhbSXDo | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909765681065984 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Purism’s next product could be a smartphone that runs | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/free software https://t.co/n4m74y4Tw4 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Purism’s next product could be a smartphone that runs Linux/free software | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909766763274240 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uECce06Dgd (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| MinceR | convergence of public utilities | Sep 30 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909768143183872 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Files in Linux https://t.co/uY0M3LYpkS | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration Files in Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/1Jc4PDJ | Sep 30 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I downloaded Trove... - Imgur | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909769518854144 | Sep 30 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU | Sep 30 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Drivers https://t.co/a8mPKQ20y8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU Drivers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical...' | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with...' | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: poor value for money | Sep 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | back to work today | Sep 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | for first time since monday :< | Sep 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/fkU5abu.jpg | Sep 30 18:52 |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 18:52 | |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 18:53 | |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 30 18:53 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: hehe | Sep 30 18:54 |
| schestowitz | I guess that's also why their guns cannot fire | Sep 30 18:54 |
| schestowitz | very faulty planes | Sep 30 18:54 |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | will cost a fortune to make, not just to design | Sep 30 18:54 |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | what a fraudulent waste | Sep 30 18:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 18:55 |
| <--Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 30 19:01 | |
| -->Nazmo (~nazmi@82.236.59.219) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 19:05 | |
| ---Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 19:05 | |
| -->SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 19:16 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ping | Sep 30 19:16 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 19:22 | |
| cubexyz | I trust google | Sep 30 19:49 |
| cubexyz | who else is making coreboot laptops? | Sep 30 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | That's an interesting start %). | Sep 30 19:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 19:50 |
| MinceR | i have limited trust for google | Sep 30 19:50 |
| cubexyz | I have the source code for the chromebook embedded controller, and it's fully working | Sep 30 19:50 |
| MinceR | nice | Sep 30 19:51 |
| cubexyz | now to do that on a Lenovo X200 requires considerable effort | Sep 30 19:51 |
| *XRevan86 bets Google made a coreboot policy to make it harder to windows Chromebooks. | Sep 30 19:51 | |
| XRevan86 | Not the worst thing to do for sure :). Still. | Sep 30 19:52 |
| cubexyz | well I haven't had the chance to fully test alternatives on chromebooks, for example things like reactos or freedos | Sep 30 19:52 |
| cubexyz | but for freedos old hardware is fine | Sep 30 19:53 |
| *XRevan86 doesn't know how hard it is to make coreboot in Chromebooks to support MBR boot or EFI boot. | Sep 30 19:53 | |
| XRevan86 | s/to support/support/ | Sep 30 19:54 |
| cubexyz | well there's seabios inside coreboot (encapsulated) so in theory you should be able to do freedos | Sep 30 19:54 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I'm sure coreboot flashed in Chromebooks all only support booting the Linux kernel. | Sep 30 19:54 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/SIpORyZ | Sep 30 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apparently my GPU is a bit power hungry... - Imgur | Sep 30 19:54 | |
| MinceR | cubexyz: what about netbsd and openbsd? | Sep 30 19:55 |
| XRevan86 | most probably only a signed one | Sep 30 19:55 |
| cubexyz | it's been done | Sep 30 19:55 |
| cubexyz | not by me though | Sep 30 19:55 |
| cubexyz | there was some issue with suspending as I recall | Sep 30 19:56 |
| cubexyz | https://blog.grem.de/pages/c720.html | Sep 30 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.grem.de | Michael's Daemonic Doodles | Running FreeBSD on the Acer C720 Chromebook | Sep 30 19:56 | |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 30 19:57 |
| MinceR | requires voiding warranty :( | Sep 30 19:58 |
| cubexyz | not at all sure about ARM chromebooks for freedos come to think about it | Sep 30 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | > On the Chrome OS devices that shipped with SeaBIOS, the installation process of Arch Linux should be similar with a few minor adjustments | Sep 30 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | So some have it. And some don't? | Sep 30 19:58 |
| MinceR | then again, looking at dHell, lenovo and others, that may not mean much for long | Sep 30 19:58 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, that's right | Sep 30 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: ARM ones don't use coreboot. | Sep 30 19:58 |
| cubexyz | u-boot I think on those | Sep 30 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, uboot makes sense. | Sep 30 19:59 |
| cubexyz | still GPL :) | Sep 30 19:59 |
| cubexyz | I can live with that | Sep 30 19:59 |
| cubexyz | yes, freedos is strictly x86 | Sep 30 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | As long as it's not tivoised. | Sep 30 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Smartphones are (almost?) all on uboot, still doesn't help them not being tivoised. | Sep 30 20:01 |
| cubexyz | I tested a lot of OSes on Gigabyte GA-6BXC | Sep 30 20:01 |
| cubexyz | that's about as vanilla as you can get | Sep 30 20:01 |
| cubexyz | bah, /me does not use smartphones | Sep 30 20:01 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's ARM world. | Sep 30 20:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | cubexyz, to old skool to use a smart phone | Sep 30 20:02 |
| *cubexyz uses landline like the old days | Sep 30 20:02 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | cubexyz, you old foggy | Sep 30 20:02 |
| cubexyz | I even tested ISA cards on coreboot :) | Sep 30 20:03 |
| cubexyz | there wasn't a lot of room on the flash chip for 6BXC... only 256k | Sep 30 20:04 |
| cubexyz | still big enough for coreboot + seabios | Sep 30 20:04 |
| *XRevan86 looks at http://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Libreboot&diff=36377&oldid=36149 | Sep 30 20:08 | |
| XRevan86 | so they don't mind? | Sep 30 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Difference between revisions of "Libreboot" - Free Software Directory [ http://ur1.ca/ptkta ] | Sep 30 20:08 | |
| XRevan86 | I thought they did… | Sep 30 20:08 |
| cubexyz | some binary blobs are actually OK | Sep 30 20:09 |
| cubexyz | vgabios for example... it's well understood | Sep 30 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I mean, FSF don't minding non-GNU Libreboot. | Sep 30 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | s/don't/not/ | Sep 30 20:09 |
| cubexyz | libreboot is GPL though? | Sep 30 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Did you miss all the fuss? %) | Sep 30 20:10 |
| cubexyz | seems like it | Sep 30 20:10 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Person who created and maintained GNU Libreboot accused FSF of firing a person for being transgender. | Sep 30 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: And moved Libreboot out of GNU slash forked GNU Libreboot to Libreboot (depends on the opinion). | Sep 30 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | Comment from RMS: the person fired was also transgendered when hired, so nothing really changed in that respect between hiring and firing. | Sep 30 20:13 |
| *XRevan86 is lazy to find quotes. | Sep 30 20:13 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: So now Libreboot is a controversial piece of software %). | Sep 30 20:13 |
| XRevan86 | And despite the fact that GNU declared that GNU Libreboot will still be maintained, I can't find an actual repo. | Sep 30 20:14 |
| XRevan86 | > some binary blobs are actually OK | Sep 30 20:17 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: So without even taking that into consideration, Libreboot is pretty much out of the picture. | Sep 30 20:17 |
| MinceR | so non-GNU libreboot is not fully libre now? | Sep 30 20:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It is, it's just maintained by a very emotional character. | Sep 30 20:19 |
| cubexyz | ah, yes I can say we are working on reverse-engineering some old "binary blobs" on early Unix | Sep 30 20:20 |
| cubexyz | there is no choice in the matter, unless by some miracule more source code is discovered... it's lost | Sep 30 20:20 |
| cubexyz | and there's other wrinkles like emulated VGABIOS that only works in Plex86 or Bochs | Sep 30 20:22 |
| cubexyz | sometimes there's no choice in the matter | Sep 30 20:23 |
| cubexyz | I'm a bit stumped on a couple of binaries... azel, sky and some early versions of more | Sep 30 20:24 |
| cubexyz | oh yeah fc0 was missing... but restored later on | Sep 30 20:25 |
| cubexyz | most of the missing source code for Unix v5 was filled in by using Unix v6 code | Sep 30 20:26 |
| cubexyz | fc0 was for floating point emulation | Sep 30 20:29 |
| cubexyz | so the blob rule isn't absolute | Sep 30 20:29 |
| <--SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 20:30 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: They can become a problem, and that's all FSF needs. | Sep 30 20:34 |
| cubexyz | so stuff like sqrt, pow, gamma, exp wouldn't compile without fc0 on a PDP-11 without hardware for floating point support | Sep 30 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | blobs, I mean | Sep 30 20:35 |
| cubexyz | right, I'm just reviewing my thoughts here :) | Sep 30 20:36 |
| cubexyz | new blobs are a problem... old blobs not so much | Sep 30 20:36 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Some people say new proprietary software is a problem, old p.s. not so much. | Sep 30 20:37 |
| XRevan86 | and I tend to agree | Sep 30 20:37 |
| cubexyz | I didn't have a FOSS BIOS until late 2010 | Sep 30 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, in the sense of using it. | Sep 30 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | Old unmaintained software is generally a problem. | Sep 30 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | and old proprietary software is always unmaintained | Sep 30 20:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37818-seven-popular-foods-that-might-disappear-because-of-climate-change | Sep 30 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truth-out.org | Seven Popular Foods That Might Disappear Because of Climate Change | Sep 30 20:39 | |
| cubexyz | well someone might have the source code for a program and not give it out | Sep 30 20:39 |
| cubexyz | they signed the NDA etc etc | Sep 30 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Proprietary software have EULAs | Sep 30 20:40 |
| cubexyz | you've lost your old development environment, you got no time to go back and work on it... it just languishes | Sep 30 20:41 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Having source code of some software even abandoned is covered by a term "piracy" | Sep 30 20:41 |
| XRevan86 | in a violation of the EULA | Sep 30 20:41 |
| cubexyz | except I've put a ton of effort into maintaining the older programming environments for stuff that interests me | Sep 30 20:41 |
| cubexyz | yeah but they just sit on the code and don't tell anyone :) | Sep 30 20:42 |
| cubexyz | who's going to know? | Sep 30 20:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's their right by the law. | Sep 30 20:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Although I'm not sure what you mean. | Sep 30 20:42 |
| cubexyz | ok... let's say you worked on a game | Sep 30 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | If you're the developer, you are the proprieter. | Sep 30 20:43 |
| cubexyz | you get paid for it, but you technically don't own the rights, but you keep the code | Sep 30 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Well, that's illegal. | Sep 30 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If the rights owner will ask you to remove them, you have to comply. | Sep 30 20:44 |
| XRevan86 | > who's going to know? | Sep 30 20:50 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: And that… you can get sources of Windows 2000 and do nothing with them. | Sep 30 20:50 |
| cubexyz | sure | Sep 30 20:50 |
| XRevan86 | If nobody will find out, nobody will sue you %). | Sep 30 20:50 |
| cubexyz | hosted in Russia if I recall :) | Sep 30 20:50 |
| XRevan86 | I remember they were torrented on TPB. | Sep 30 20:51 |
| XRevan86 | thus hosted everywhere | Sep 30 20:51 |
| cubexyz | what's the alternative? Orphaned software is lost forever? | Sep 30 20:52 |
| cubexyz | and eventually that copyright will expire | Sep 30 20:53 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's the fate of proprietary software. | Sep 30 20:53 |
| XRevan86 | does it? | Sep 30 20:53 |
| cubexyz | 50 years after the author dies | Sep 30 20:54 |
| cubexyz | I admit, it's too long but that's the rule | Sep 30 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: In a hundred years software becomes extremely irrelevant. | Sep 30 20:56 |
| cubexyz | 1916? there's nothing :) | Sep 30 20:57 |
| cubexyz | we haven't even got close to 100 years yet | Sep 30 20:57 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: But software that is 30 years old is already irrelevant. | Sep 30 20:57 |
| XRevan86 | if 30 years is irrelevance then what's 100 years? | Sep 30 20:57 |
| cubexyz | ah, it's not irrelevant to me | Sep 30 20:58 |
| cubexyz | I wrote some stuff 30 years ago | Sep 30 20:58 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Well, you have hardware from that era, right? | Sep 30 20:58 |
| cubexyz | yes | Sep 30 20:58 |
| XRevan86 | and you practically need something compatible for it | Sep 30 20:58 |
| cubexyz | historians? :) | Sep 30 20:59 |
| cubexyz | so yeah it gets emulated on newer hardware | Sep 30 20:59 |
| cubexyz | I don't have a real PDP-11 but I still program for it | Sep 30 20:59 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's creepy. | Sep 30 21:00 |
| <--sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 30 21:00 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Ah, you mean, because you're into that? | Sep 30 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | for historians everything's relevant %) | Sep 30 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | even flappy bird clones for ios | Sep 30 21:01 |
| cubexyz | there's The Historical Unix Society or TUHS, I'm a member :) | Sep 30 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That explains a lot :D | Sep 30 21:01 |
| cubexyz | for example ...a working IBM 2310 would be very hard to get | Sep 30 21:02 |
| cubexyz | so it was emulated, the software can still run | Sep 30 21:03 |
| cubexyz | not too long ago I ported the gamma function to amiga | Sep 30 21:03 |
| XRevan86 | Historians are a big exception in the definition of relevance %) | Sep 30 21:03 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/bmLIPm3.jpg | Sep 30 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Didn't they also create tonnes of problems for users? | Sep 30 21:06 |
| MinceR | they did | Sep 30 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | People shouldn't care about it, they also shouldn't care about their OS working at all. | Sep 30 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | Computer is an illusion, let it go. | Sep 30 21:07 |
| cubexyz | I thought it was very interesting I could port an old piece of software for the gamma function originally intended for Vax-11/780 to a 68000 based amiga | Sep 30 21:07 |
| cubexyz | I guess the oldest hardware (emulated) I actually use is IBM 1130 | Sep 30 21:13 |
| cubexyz | that's 1965 era | Sep 30 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Doesn't emulating remove most of the fun? | Sep 30 21:17 |
| cubexyz | not really | Sep 30 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | Or maybe I think that because I don't find old software charming… | Sep 30 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | old hardware is an other thing %) | Sep 30 21:18 |
| cubexyz | a real IBM 1130 would take up a lot of room | Sep 30 21:18 |
| cubexyz | a real PDP-11/45 would eat up a lot of current | Sep 30 21:18 |
| cubexyz | compiling the kernel on a real PDP-11/45 would be very slow, etc etc | Sep 30 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Random question: what do you think of Nokia N900? | Sep 30 21:23 |
| cubexyz | I've heard of it | Sep 30 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | Should be sort of interesting for a UNIX historian :). | Sep 30 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | maemo phone | Sep 30 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | Debian | Sep 30 21:24 |
| cubexyz | well if it supported X11 I'd probably buy one | Sep 30 21:25 |
| cubexyz | I assume Nokia stopped making Linux devices? | Sep 30 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Nokia stopped making devices. | Sep 30 21:26 |
| cubexyz | used the same package manager as the zaurus | Sep 30 21:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I think it does have X11. | Sep 30 21:28 |
| XRevan86 | not sure | Sep 30 21:28 |
| cubexyz | yeah there was some talk of X forwarding over ssh | Sep 30 21:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's not a very practical device these days, of course. | Sep 30 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | but historical for sure :) | Sep 30 21:30 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think MinceR talked about it years ago | Sep 30 21:31 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 21:31 | |
| XRevan86 | or rather not practical at all | Sep 30 21:32 |
| XRevan86 | it can make calls though | Sep 30 21:32 |
| cubexyz | I still use the zaurus as an ereader | Sep 30 21:32 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: ereader? with that screen? | Sep 30 21:33 |
| cubexyz | yeah it's pretty small :) | Sep 30 21:33 |
| cubexyz | I use my reading glasses so it's not too bad | Sep 30 21:33 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Actually, I was addressing DPI and colour quality %). | Sep 30 21:34 |
| *XRevan86 does ereading on 4'' | Sep 30 21:35 | |
| cubexyz | I ported a bunch of stuff to zaurus a while back | Sep 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: does ublock origin work with pale moon? | Sep 30 21:36 |
| cubexyz | units, file, bc, ncurses, binutils, procps, rsync, etc | Sep 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | emulating is a lot of fun, at least with dosbox | Sep 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | you get an environment that's pretty portable yet it looks the same for the stuff running in it | Sep 30 21:37 |
| cubexyz | back in 2009 :) | Sep 30 21:37 |
| MinceR | plus console emulators give you abilities no console ever had | Sep 30 21:37 |
| XRevan86 | Hail snes9x (although it's non-free) | Sep 30 21:38 |
| cubexyz | haha, I can remember when atari 2600 first came out | Sep 30 21:39 |
| cubexyz | oooo so awesome ;) | Sep 30 21:39 |
| cubexyz | Christmas 1977 | Sep 30 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes it doees. | Sep 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | *does | Sep 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | nice | Sep 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, higan is better if you have the hardware for it. | Sep 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | also, when you mentioned that e10s consumed a lot of resources, was that on windows or on some free unix? | Sep 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's ~400 times more accurate than snes9x, but requires a decent computer. | Sep 30 21:41 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: How decent? | Sep 30 21:41 |
| cubexyz | ok Super Nintendo you could just buy one :) | Sep 30 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Should be across the board. Mozilla said 20% without specifying an OS. | Sep 30 21:41 |
| cubexyz | it's not _that_ old and they made millions of them | Sep 30 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Might be +/- a little by platform, but not much. | Sep 30 21:41 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | i expected it to be far more costly on winblows | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | as the NT kernel makes processes super expensive | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | while processes are cheap on unix | Sep 30 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why? Firefox uses a similar amount of RAM on each platform. | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | ask m$ :> | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | they came up with svchost | Sep 30 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's not as expensive as it once was. | Sep 30 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Windows has compressed memory support now. | Sep 30 21:43 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 30 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | It uses it where it makes sense. | Sep 30 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | So if you have 10 instances of the same code running, that's an easy one. | Sep 30 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, There are a lot of exceptions for Windows services now where they run in svchost, but a different instance of it. | Sep 30 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Intel Core i5 decent? | Sep 30 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, Which generation? | Sep 30 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | There have been like 6 generations and they're quite different even though they have the same name. | Sep 30 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Okay, I see :D | Sep 30 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I have an ultra low voltage i7-6560U and it runs fine. | Sep 30 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | 60 fps all the time | Sep 30 21:47 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 21:48 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 21:49 | |
| DaemonFC | The design of the current Intel mobile platform is good, but they won't provide much documentation for it, so Linux is woefully behind. | Sep 30 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | You have to get several components into power save mode or the whole power saving system is compromised. | Sep 30 21:50 |
| MinceR | where are the amd laptops? | Sep 30 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Lost Vikings 2 works with ~45 FPS | Sep 30 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | htop shows 87% CPU load | Sep 30 21:51 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Rltpcpx.jpg | Sep 30 21:51 |
| -->DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I see Higan is very power-hungry | Sep 30 21:52 |
| DaemonFC` | It would be. It works one of your CPU cores pretty hard. | Sep 30 21:52 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Disconnected by services) | Sep 30 21:53 | |
| ---DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Sep 30 21:53 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A thought occured while reading all those kickass facts | Sep 30 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | It can run SNES games without bugs that appear due to inaccurate emulation in other emulators. | Sep 30 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: People actually start believing in god because of these things %). | Sep 30 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the most popular games have hacks to get around known bugs with snes9x | Sep 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | cargo cults | Sep 30 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: More like "Coincidence? I think not!" | Sep 30 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's an interesting thing how humans like to find correlation and meaning in things. | Sep 30 21:56 |
| MinceR | too bad neither MAF nor UnMHT supports Pale Moon | Sep 30 22:47 |
| MinceR | ah, there's a MAF fork | Sep 30 22:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with...' | Sep 30 23:12 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/HPWo49q.jpg | Sep 30 23:15 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 23:29 | |
| <--liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 23:31 | |
| -->sheepbat (~lev3k@46.21.154.83) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 23:42 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've been using a recent testing build of Pale Moon 27. It's gettin much better. | Sep 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, some of the extensions fron Firefox _don't_ work | Sep 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Https Everywhere for example. | Sep 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if they plan to make a version of that for Microsoft Edge. | Sep 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | They could port their Chrome extension with minimal effort. Change a few lines. Change chrome to ms-browser in a few places. Done. | Sep 30 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is basically trying to clone Webkit. | Sep 30 23:51 |
| MinceR | well, at least the crashes will be easy to clone | Sep 30 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | They said their goal with EdgeHTML is to behave exactly like Webkit in rendering pages, and they copied Chrome's extension system. | Sep 30 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chrome actually uses Blink now, but Blink is really kind of a rolling fork. | Sep 30 23:52 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | apparently i'll need Blink for WebRTC, as CrashKit doesn't seem to support it | Sep 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | or maybe i just have an ancient version of it | Sep 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apple doesn't use a very recent version of Webkit. | Sep 30 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | In Safari. | Sep 30 23:54 |
| MinceR | pretty much all i'm missing now is the Scroll Progress extension | Sep 30 23:54 |
| MinceR | which mozilla denies ever existed | Sep 30 23:54 |
| MinceR | i don't have safari | Sep 30 23:55 |
| MinceR | i have midori and rekonq | Sep 30 23:55 |
| MinceR | maybe other stuff | Sep 30 23:55 |
| MinceR | i wonder if chromium will keep supporting ALSA | Sep 30 23:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781980040527355904 | Sep 30 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated | Sep 30 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes https://t.co/X4FjmHzile | Sep 30 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 23:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Sep 30 23:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/arion212112/status/781985733557030912 | Oct 01 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, | Oct 01 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @arion212112 Better Accelerometers https://t.co/T1jvhbSXDo | Oct 01 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 00:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Tux Machines | Oct 01 00:00 | |
| XRevan86 | >Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Oct 01 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(layout_engine) | Oct 01 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Servo (layout engine) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ptlrp ] | Oct 01 00:00 | |
| XRevan86 | ugh, ugh | Oct 01 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/releases | Oct 01 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Releases · linuxmint/Cinnamon · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/ptlrr ] | Oct 01 00:01 | |
| XRevan86 | Where's the thing? | Oct 01 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Mozilla is working on a new rendering engine called Servo. | Oct 01 00:01 |
| MinceR | well, it isn't difficult to make something worse than gecko | Oct 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | managed to install Scroll Progress from the file :> | Oct 01 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apple wrote to KDE to Kongratulate them ;) about how khtml and kjs were only about 100,000 source lines of code, and to say that Gecko was too bloated for their Safari browser to use. | Oct 01 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Today, Webkit is actually bigger than Gecko. | Oct 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 01 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Matthew Garrett was talking about LightDM about a couple of years ago. | Oct 01 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | He said that "light" means you don't understand the problem the original was trying to solve, most of the time. | Oct 01 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Like, you end up being 90% of the size of the project you were replacing and you crash more because it's all new code. | Oct 01 00:10 |
| ---Emchan_alt is now known as Emchan | Oct 01 00:10 | |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 01 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | In the LightDM case, he compared it with GDM, which loads gnome-session. He said that it was to gain access to GNOME's power and accessibility policies. | Oct 01 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Without that, GDM has to implement their own and it beccomes inconsistent. | Oct 01 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that LightDM was a good idea. I don't think that Mir was a good idea. I don't think that a lot of the things Ubuntu set out to do are good ideas. | Oct 01 00:12 |
| cubexyz | sorry, but some DMs used much less memory than others | Oct 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | i don't think that any of the DMs that depend on systemd-logind are good ideas | Oct 01 00:12 |
| cubexyz | it's quite noticeable | Oct 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | startx is better than all of them anyway | Oct 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | it can do everything they can do, and more | Oct 01 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | I railed about Indicators at one point. I said that they basically replace existing functionality, you can't right-click on them, you have to patch every application to use them because upstream probably won't. | Oct 01 00:13 |
| cubexyz | 4.5 megs for icewm... 200 megs for KDE | Oct 01 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | And all of that turned out to be....true. | Oct 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | and it's lighter than all of them | Oct 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: also, some distros actually break applications' systray support | Oct 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | via patches | Oct 01 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME was considering making Indicators a part of GNOME, which would have at least been better, because then the upstreams would say "Hey look! We should support this.'. | Oct 01 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | But they didn't beccause of Canonical's CLA. | Oct 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | they shouldn't | Oct 01 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: LightDM is pretty nice. | Oct 01 00:14 |
| MinceR | it's incompatible for the sake of being incompatible | Oct 01 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | not light though | Oct 01 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah, now you have two sets of code in each app. | Oct 01 00:14 |
| cubexyz | not saying everyone has to use ratpoison, but come on... KDE and Gnome are bloated now | Oct 01 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | To deal with two different ways of putting an icon in the system tray. | Oct 01 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | And with Indicators, you lose the right-click menu. | Oct 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | lightdm depends on systemd, doesn't it? | Oct 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | => into the trash it goes | Oct 01 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | I think that people who want Ubuntu-compatibility for easy acccess to apps should just load Kubuntu, which is staying out of this mess. | Oct 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | (also, it's not light by a long shot) | Oct 01 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical mostly fucks up on the GUI, which is all in Unity. | Oct 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | canonical fucks up everything they touch | Oct 01 00:15 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/compare-all-wms.png | Oct 01 00:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I don't think it is. | Oct 01 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Can you get it from the trash for while I'm checking? | Oct 01 00:17 |
| MinceR | well, the gentoo ebuild said "inherit [...] systemd" | Oct 01 00:17 |
| *XRevan86 opened http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk/view/head:/configure.ac | Oct 01 00:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bazaar.launchpad.net | ~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk : contents of configure.ac at revision 2403 | Oct 01 00:17 | |
| cubexyz | surely you can build it without systemd stuff? | Oct 01 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | oddly enough, I mentions of neither systemd-login nor consolekit | Oct 01 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | Debian's package dependency says: libpam-systemd or consolekit | Oct 01 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's implemented in runtime | Oct 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | not that i'm terribly fond of consolekit | Oct 01 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcoms-extradition-appeal-concludes-160928/ | Oct 01 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kim Dotcom's Extradition Appeal Concludes, Will He Get a "Fair Go"? - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/ptbph ] | Oct 01 00:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 01 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 01 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the United States wouldn't give him an unfair trial....I mean, of course it would. | Oct 01 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | This is the same country that takes a Turkish date farmer and imprisons him forever in Guantanamo Bay and tortures him, having decided to keep him in prison forever, the only question being if there's going to be a "trial" somewhere along the way. | Oct 01 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | In the case of MegaUpload, Mr. Dotcom was fully in compliance with the US DMCA law, but that didn't matter. The MPAA had the US government raid and destroy his business anyway. | Oct 01 00:25 |
| XRevan86 | And GDM on the other hand depends on GNOME Shell. | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, looks like it settles for consolekit | Oct 01 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | So in 2016 comparing LightDM and GDM is weird. | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | startx, on the other hand, requires neither :> | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | wow, GDM has gone to shit | Oct 01 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | GDM is just for GNOME. | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | then again, it's to be expected | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | now i remember poettering wanting GDM to essentially run a whole gnome desktop | Oct 01 00:27 |
| MinceR | because otherwise you hate blind people | Oct 01 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | And LightDM is a DM, it works, has nice frontends. Not very light again, but I guess that's no longer the point. | Oct 01 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-we-cant-stop-pirate-sites-160927/ | Oct 01 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cloudflare: We Can't Shut Down Pirate Sites - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/pt8ig ] | Oct 01 00:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 01 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 01 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not wild about Cloudflare anyway. For one thing, sites that use them for Distributed Denial of Service Attack protection will fail to load in your web browser if you have Javascript turns off. | Oct 01 00:27 |
| MinceR | in a world where most DMs try to force Lendows on you, it no longer matters | Oct 01 00:28 |
| MinceR | cloudflare also blocks tor, afaik | Oct 01 00:28 |
| MinceR | which sucks | Oct 01 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | There's also SDDM which I didn't fairly try… | Oct 01 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Tor has a security slider now. | Oct 01 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's set to Low by default. I recommend Medium-High in general. | Oct 01 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | On High, basically everything is broken by default. On Low, there's too many ways a site can attack the browser and de-anonymize you. | Oct 01 00:29 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | i've read about it recently | Oct 01 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | And even though LightDM is maintained by Ubuntu guys, it's fine. That's the biggest surprise here. | Oct 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | the way things are going, they'll break it eventually | Oct 01 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They kinda did. But then something happened and they fixed it all. | Oct 01 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | They made ayatana indicators a requirement for some features in the gtk-greeter. | Oct 01 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | And then they didn't | Oct 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | well, at least this debacle made me rediscover startx and realize that i can indeed select session types with it | Oct 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | especially on funtoo/gentoo, where an envvar determines which one to start | Oct 01 00:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, you finally made your way to Gentoo? :) | Oct 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | but i can emulate that behavior elsewhere too by writing an appropriate .xsession | Oct 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | well, i investigated funtoo and gentoo-prefix again | Oct 01 00:35 |
| MinceR | my test VM has a gentoo RAP in it, under Devuan, which seems to work | Oct 01 00:35 |
| MinceR | but i want to test something on Bedrock again | Oct 01 00:35 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/humboldt-fraktur-font.png | Oct 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | the above startx behavior i found out on my funtoo VM | Oct 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | what's the executable name for this Font Viewer? | Oct 01 00:37 |
| cubexyz | that's kfontview | Oct 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | ah, thanks | Oct 01 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Bedrock? | Oct 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | Bedrock Linux | Oct 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | http://bedrocklinux.org/ | Oct 01 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bedrocklinux.org | Bedrock Linux | Oct 01 00:38 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, that weird thing. | Oct 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 01 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What video player is in the tray? | Oct 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, i was looking for ways to have its functionality without actually using it | Oct 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | which is what led me to Nix and Gentoo Prefix/RAP, among other things | Oct 01 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: not-SMPlayer + SMTube | Oct 01 00:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Nix is still a thing? | Oct 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | it doesn't work perfectly though | Oct 01 00:41 |
| cubexyz | that's gnome-mplayer | Oct 01 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe at least you know what's the difference between Nix and Guix | Oct 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | vaguely | Oct 01 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I was afraid you'll say that | Oct 01 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's practically dead | Oct 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | hm, maybe i should give Guix a try as well | Oct 01 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | and doesn't support mpv | Oct 01 00:42 |
| cubexyz | I barely even use it :) | Oct 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | does Guix work without GuixSD? | Oct 01 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yes | Oct 01 00:43 |
| cubexyz | I normally just use mplayer from the terminal | Oct 01 00:43 |
| MinceR | nice | Oct 01 00:43 |
| *XRevan86 gived an oath of faith to MPV because MPlayer lack VA-API support. | Oct 01 00:43 | |
| XRevan86 | lacks* | Oct 01 00:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 01 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | also A/V sync in mplayer doesn't work good | Oct 01 00:43 |
| cubexyz | oh another fork... how unexpected :) | Oct 01 00:44 |
| *MinceR just uses VLC after way too much struggling with broken mplayer and xine frontends | Oct 01 00:44 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You mean phonon fronends? | Oct 01 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | frontends | Oct 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | no, GUIs | Oct 01 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: SMPlayer is nice. | Oct 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | every single one of them a unique snowflake | Oct 01 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | Ugly by default (and that illness progresses in time) but configurable | Oct 01 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | * with time | Oct 01 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | so it's possible to neutralise the ugliness | Oct 01 00:45 |
| cubexyz | I have smplayer also | Oct 01 00:46 |
| cubexyz | vector linux just puts gnome-mplayer in icewm as a default | Oct 01 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Another one of those Slackware based ones, eh? | Oct 01 00:47 |
| cubexyz | yes | Oct 01 00:47 |
| MinceR | oh, and mplayer quitting at the end of a video | Oct 01 00:49 |
| MinceR | that was a lot of fun too | Oct 01 00:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's not relevant to frontends :) | Oct 01 00:54 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Oct 01 00:54 | |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Oct 01 00:54 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And actually, for me for mpv/mplayer itself that's an expected behaviour | Oct 01 00:55 |
| MinceR | kind of makes it difficult to seek back into the video | Oct 01 00:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You can start it over %) | Oct 01 00:57 |
| cubexyz | mplayer -ss 4:30 :) | Oct 01 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Also, unlike mplayer2 mpv is really alive. | Oct 01 00:57 |
| cubexyz | what does mpv do that mplayer doesn't? | Oct 01 00:59 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I did mention two things I really care about :) | Oct 01 00:59 |
| XRevan86 | Because with VA-API video plays much smoother for me because Intel HD doesn't support vdpau, and when even hardware acceleration isn't enough, mpv handles desync well | Oct 01 01:01 |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Oct 01 01:01 | |
| XRevan86 | So with mplayer desync happened a lot more because of the lack of vaapi, and it was much bigger of a problem because it practically doesn't know how to desync. | Oct 01 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | * how to sync | Oct 01 01:02 |
| -->pidgin_log (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 01:02 | |
| XRevan86 | it desyncs and then video just goes on, and then it desyncs more | Oct 01 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | and mplayer doesn't suspect a thing | Oct 01 01:03 |
| cubexyz | I'm looking at the dependencies | Oct 01 01:04 |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 01:04 | |
| cubexyz | libass >= 0.12.1 not found | Oct 01 01:07 |
| <--XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Oct 01 01:08 | |
| cubexyz | ok, this is going to take a while | Oct 01 01:12 |
| <--Firee has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Oct 01 01:14 | |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 01 01:19 |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 01:35 | |
| XRevan86 | Had an Internet problem. | Oct 01 01:35 |
| XRevan86 | Now good night %). | Oct 01 01:35 |
| MinceR | gn XRevan86 | Oct 01 01:35 |
| <--XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Oct 01 01:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Visionssucheche/status/781950107684052992 | Oct 01 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Visionssucheche: https://t.co/USGQZpRNSO Morton County Sheriff's Department gets it own new tv program https://t.co/zIkMVJI7gB | Oct 01 01:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Morton County Sheriff's Department - YouTube | Oct 01 01:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Morton County Sheriff's Department announces arrest warrants against people in #facebook - as if Facebook and #police separate entities? | Oct 01 01:36 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Oct 01 01:46 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/MC9u3aQ.jpg | Oct 01 01:49 |
| schestowitz | heh | Oct 01 01:59 |
| schestowitz | religion... | Oct 01 01:59 |
| cubexyz | wow, his family experienced a lot of tradegy | Oct 01 02:04 |
| MinceR | his birth being one of them, surely | Oct 01 02:04 |
| cubexyz | elder son shot himself and their daughter died in an airplane crash | Oct 01 02:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NTechlibre/status/782023521476177920 | Oct 01 02:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NTechlibre: @schestowitz The world is taking a right, so Hiilary looks centrist when in reality she's a #corporatist | Oct 01 02:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated Dolphin...' | Oct 01 02:15 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 01 02:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782026113669337088 | Oct 01 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phones with Expandable Memory | Oct 01 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/T4EZaD2a31 (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 01 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phones with Expandable Memory | Android Central | Oct 01 02:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782027058696171521 | Oct 01 02:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Wear 2.0 dev preview 3 images are ready to | Oct 01 02:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | download https://t.co/Sn6vGmPhUn (www.androidpolice.com) | Oct 01 02:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Android Wear 2.0 dev preview 3 images are ready to download | Oct 01 02:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782027310123933697 | Oct 01 02:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Video: Six years of Nexus - A Google phone history | Oct 01 02:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gbR5Zg7ZRB (www.androidpolice.com) | Oct 01 02:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Video: Six years of Nexus - A Google phone history | Oct 01 02:22 | |
| schestowitz | daemonFC mentioned in http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.htm | Oct 01 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft At Fault? : Tech : Gamenguide | Oct 01 02:24 | |
| schestowitz | "This issue about the OS started when an identity of BaronHK posted on Reddit about installing Linux on the latest Lenovo Yoga book in which BaronHK encountered being blocked by a locked solid state drive (SSD) which Linux cannot define itself, and come up to link the issue to Microsoft." | Oct 01 02:24 |
| schestowitz | they repeat Lenovo's lies | Oct 01 02:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782027659920506880 | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Gear Watch Designer Beta v 1.2.1 Released | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/t0ez2LswBB (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TvbPYi1VJn (www.tizenexperts.com) | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Gear Watch Designer Beta v 1.2.1 Released - Tizen Experts | Oct 01 02:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Smart View SDK update - Offers New version of DMP and Wireless speaker support - Tizen Experts | Oct 01 02:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782028860716122112 | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 & 900; Is Microsoft | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | At Fault? https://t.co/y8g2kWSa6H (www.gamenguide.com) | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782029671861018624 | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phone Under $700 https://t.co/hXg0TDT0dP | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) | Oct 01 02:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phone Under $700 | Android Central | Oct 01 02:39 | |
| cubexyz | Lenovo are obfuscators | Oct 01 02:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782031924718145537 | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | From NFS to LizardFS https://t.co/h9T9xH12O9 | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (cedarandthistle.wordpress.com) | Oct 01 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cedarandthistle.wordpress.com | From NFS to LizardFS | The Cedar and the Thistle | Oct 01 02:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782033825417269248 | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Accelerometers https://t.co/Vo64TlTCoh | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Oct 01 02:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782034004455415808 | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Purism’s next product could be a smartphone that runs | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/free software https://t.co/BdMmBdRAgT | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (liliputing.com) | Oct 01 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Purism's next product could be a smartphone that runs Linux/free software - Liliputing | Oct 01 02:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782034638910918658 | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VgxfWKFKif (www.linux.com) | Oct 01 02:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 02:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Oct 01 02:51 | |
| cubexyz | they don't even tell you it's an AMI BIOS | Oct 01 02:53 |
| cubexyz | they obfuscate that... calling it a "Lenovo BIOS" on screen | Oct 01 02:53 |
| cubexyz | only the high priests of BIOS-land are permitted to even look at the BIOS source code | Oct 01 02:54 |
| cubexyz | mere mortals will turn to salt | Oct 01 02:55 |
| cubexyz | the average joe as no chance at all of escaping the limitations of the BIOS | Oct 01 02:56 |
| cubexyz | you can't even use the standard clips to reflash the BIOS chip | Oct 01 02:58 |
| cubexyz | so who do I blame the most? I blame AMI the most | Oct 01 03:00 |
| cubexyz | maybe they were coaxed by Microsoft or Lenovo, I don't know | Oct 01 03:00 |
| cubexyz | can't set AHCI in BIOS... absolutely deliberate | Oct 01 03:04 |
| cubexyz | AMI tests stuff like this... they know better | Oct 01 03:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782035044512755712 | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Files in Linux https://t.co/g0bN5Ym6Qd (www.linux.com) | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 03:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration Files in Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Oct 01 03:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782035273744080896 | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Drivers https://t.co/BYpw77O7Ya (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 03:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU Drivers - Phoronix | Oct 01 03:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782035485988425728 | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes https://t.co/CkFDe42hOQ | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Oct 01 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 03:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes | Oct 01 03:10 | |
| cubexyz | one day you wake up and realize you're the one testing things | Oct 01 03:13 |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Oct 01 03:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782039846697197573 | Oct 01 04:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | It's Been Three Years Since Valve Announced SteamOS, | Oct 01 04:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam Machines https://t.co/E9HNeDzxo8 (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 04:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's Been Three Years Since Valve Announced SteamOS, Steam Machines - Phoronix | Oct 01 04:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782055152475709440 | Oct 01 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News https://t.co/kgntfoCF2g (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News | Tux Machines | Oct 01 04:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782055153977266176 | Oct 01 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/EtQyNifpg7 | Oct 01 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 01 04:11 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 04:21 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Oct 01 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | Make sure you have get updates from more than one place set to local machines only or off. Microsoft has a bittorrent-like update system that defaults to stealing your internet connection to deliver their updates to other Windows users. | Oct 01 04:21 |
| <--sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Oct 01 04:22 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The stock market reacted to the Lenovo layoffs by regaining some of their losses, but they're back down to where they were before. | Oct 01 04:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782055155034226688 | Oct 01 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/0YTkUnSZYd | Oct 01 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 04:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 01 04:51 | |
| DaemonFC | I think after the news broke, people bought it expecting a turnaround and then decided that it was an admission that they wasted money on Motorola and have no real presence in the US market. | Oct 01 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't take long | Oct 01 04:51 |
| <--knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Oct 01 05:16 | |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK 1 point 3 minutes ago* | Oct 01 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | Edge needs to go back in the oven until Adblock works much better and it lets you pick another search engine without returning Bing results anyway... I don't know why they call this "Windows Subsystem for Linux". There's no Linux code anywhere. It's basically GNU/Windows. | Oct 01 05:17 |
| -->knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-091-096-189-005.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 05:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated Dolphin...' | Oct 01 07:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical...' | Oct 01 07:14 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Oct 01 07:31 |
| schestowitz | [02:24] <schestowitz> daemonFC mentioned in http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/50757/20160930/linux-unable-to-boot-lenovo-yoga-900-900-is-microsoft-at-fault.ht | Oct 01 07:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamenguide | Oct 01 07:31 | |
| DaemonFC | There are AMD models? | Oct 01 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | A comment says those are unaffected. | Oct 01 07:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mpgotch/status/782049044679892992 | Oct 01 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mpgotch: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Wasted vote. | Oct 01 07:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782108418458910720 | Oct 01 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Ubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Performance Compares To Some | Oct 01 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Other Linux Distros https://t.co/3fKFFWxxjY | Oct 01 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 07:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Ubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Performance Compares To Some Other Linux Distros - Phoronix | Oct 01 07:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782109055338835968 | Oct 01 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 96Boards SBCs host Intel Joule and Curie IoT modules | Oct 01 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4XgMCtou2u (hackerboards.com) | Oct 01 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 07:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | 96Boards SBCs host Intel Joule and Curie IoT modules | Oct 01 07:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/782107838642552832 | Oct 01 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @DrJillStein @schestowitz let's do it quickly before robots take over https://t.co/i9pTWz3hO2 | Oct 01 08:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/782108976330702848 | Oct 01 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz @DrJillStein The Military Industrial Complex, I've heard of it... https://t.co/NgTQHxIw9M | Oct 01 08:07 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 08:09 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.geek.com/apple/phil-schiller-thinks-its-sad-that-people-use-5-year-old-computers-1650316/ | Oct 01 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Phil Schiller thinks it’s sad that people use 5-year-old computers | Apple | Geek.com | Oct 01 09:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | 2 mins · | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that by the time Apple releases new Macs, they're a full generation behind the PCs and about 40% more expensive. | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that Apple abandons computers that are only 5 years old, that people are still using, that could run almost all new software, and can if people load Linux on them. | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that Apple thinks that installing software on your phone or tablet from outside their app store (possible through Jailbreaking) is a "bug" or "vulnerability". We used to call things that let you do that a "computer". | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that anyone buys Apple products. | Oct 01 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782111820433752064 | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BUS1, The Successor To KDBUS, Formally Unveiled -- Aiming | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Mainline Linux Kernel https://t.co/L6UTdC8iBJ | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BUS1, The Successor To KDBUS, Formally Unveiled -- Aiming For Mainline Linux Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782133505660690432 | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CJg6sym1ST (techrights.org) | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Techrights | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135292224376832 | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/rD4E8r4pKj | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| schestowitz | bbl | Oct 01 09:32 |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 01 09:37 | |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 09:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135293545631744 | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/VWUbgIvdct | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135294598406144 | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software and Games https://t.co/geMCEjMgpw | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software and Games | Tux Machines | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135295584051200 | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/F4kCKOqNpb | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux Machines | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135296704016384 | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/GpuUwMBd2c | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| -->liberty_box_ (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Oct 01 09:50 | |
| -->XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 09:52 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 01 10:30 | |
| -->Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 10:43 | |
| cubexyz | ideally you want no M$, no Apple, no AMI (this is a tough one), and source code for everything | Oct 01 12:27 |
| cubexyz | AMI is not your friend... not unless you got $10K to license the BIOS | Oct 01 12:28 |
| cubexyz | and that's the _minimum_ amount | Oct 01 12:28 |
| cubexyz | the BIOS game has largely been rigged since the IBM AT 286 | Oct 01 12:29 |
| cubexyz | the good news is the 1998-1999 BIOS code is pretty much in the wild | Oct 01 12:48 |
| XRevan86 | > the good news is the 1998-1999 BIOS code is pretty much in the wild | Oct 01 12:49 |
| XRevan86 | If one doesn't need a specific BIOS for a specific model then there are SeaBIOS and TianoCore in the wild as well. | Oct 01 12:49 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Or do you mean BIOS for a specific PC mention of which I missed? | Oct 01 12:50 |
| cubexyz | ah, I got a lot of old stuff... I'm trying to match it up to the code I have | Oct 01 12:51 |
| cubexyz | award 1999... i810-NS366 | Oct 01 12:52 |
| cubexyz | seabios is fine, but it only takes you so far | Oct 01 12:54 |
| cubexyz | for an old slot 1 motherboard... looks very promising | Oct 01 13:00 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/KVszmjV.jpg | Oct 01 13:06 |
| cubexyz | does vi map upper-case filenames to lower case? | Oct 01 13:10 |
| cubexyz | something odd is going on here | Oct 01 13:10 |
| cubexyz | is that a vfat thing? | Oct 01 13:13 |
| cubexyz | must be | Oct 01 13:13 |
| cubexyz | never noticed that before | Oct 01 13:13 |
| MinceR | if vi did that, it would be unable to open some files :> | Oct 01 13:14 |
| cubexyz | create CAT.TXT on a vfat partition | Oct 01 13:15 |
| cubexyz | then vi cat.txt | Oct 01 13:15 |
| cubexyz | ummm, maybe I mean the other way around... create cat.txt then vi CAT.TXT | Oct 01 13:16 |
| cubexyz | either way it works | Oct 01 13:17 |
| cubexyz | not on ext2 of course | Oct 01 13:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: REM sleep? | Oct 01 13:17 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 01 13:19 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: yes, [v]fat is case insensitive | Oct 01 13:19 |
| XRevan86 | $ touch CAT.txt; vi cat.txt | Oct 01 13:19 |
| XRevan86 | $ ls | Oct 01 13:19 |
| XRevan86 | cat.txt | Oct 01 13:19 |
| MinceR | which is a whole can of worms | Oct 01 13:19 |
| MinceR | naturally, HFS+ (or whatever it's called) on OSuX is also case insensitive | Oct 01 13:20 |
| cubexyz | right, it seems obvious now :) | Oct 01 13:20 |
| MinceR | strangely enough, it isn't on hypeOS | Oct 01 13:20 |
| XRevan86 | vfat is not *that* case insensitive | Oct 01 13:20 |
| MinceR | i guess that's how they met their quota of 'there must be 1 thing in your mobile OS that's slightly less braindead than your desktop OS' | Oct 01 13:20 |
| XRevan86 | but vim just uses the filename that was supplied to it | Oct 01 13:20 |
| MinceR | winblows mobile picked eliminating drive letters to fill that quota | Oct 01 13:21 |
| XRevan86 | if you create CAT.txt and then edit cat.txt and save, CAT.txt will be renamed to cat.txt | Oct 01 13:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What is that (REM sleep)? | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | well, it's both case insensitive and case-preserving | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | vfat, that is | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it's the stage of your sleep in which you dream, afaik | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | Rapid Eye Movement | Oct 01 13:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ah | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/owv5tDa.jpg | Oct 01 13:29 |
| -->acer-box__ (~acer-box@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 13:31 | |
| <--acer-box__ has quit (Changing host) | Oct 01 13:31 | |
| -->acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 13:31 | |
| <--acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Oct 01 13:33 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe it was a bad fish | Oct 01 13:38 |
| schestowitz | maybe just a bad overnment | Oct 01 13:38 |
| cubexyz | superfish! | Oct 01 13:38 |
| MinceR | nah, justcommiethings | Oct 01 13:38 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/La51ClA.jpg | Oct 01 13:39 |
| MinceR | also justcommiethings | Oct 01 13:39 |
| cubexyz | I remember some motherboards couldn't use certain CDROMs | Oct 01 13:42 |
| cubexyz | the CDROM was too fast, so it wouldn't work right | Oct 01 13:42 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/OmhC3YL.jpg | Oct 01 13:45 |
| cubexyz | I had a heck of a time with Minix and some hardware | Oct 01 13:46 |
| cubexyz | I did a study on which floppy drives would work as a replacement drive for the amiga | Oct 01 13:51 |
| cubexyz | may as well put it in the log: | Oct 01 13:51 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/amiga-drives.txt | Oct 01 13:51 |
| cubexyz | before I forget | Oct 01 13:51 |
| cubexyz | anyways, I learned a bit more about the IRDA | Oct 01 14:03 |
| cubexyz | there was FIR (serial, slowest), MIR (medium) and FIR (fastest) | Oct 01 14:04 |
| cubexyz | kind of confusing too since there is also ConsumerIR or CIR | Oct 01 14:04 |
| cubexyz | CIR is for remote controls | Oct 01 14:05 |
| cubexyz | an unstandardized mess | Oct 01 14:05 |
| cubexyz | IRDA with it's incredible range of 100 cm | Oct 01 14:08 |
| MinceR | < mst> GIANT ASTEROID 2K16 | Oct 01 14:13 |
| MinceR | < perigrin> mst: make glaciers great again | Oct 01 14:13 |
| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/54eh1a/nobody_can_print_anymore/d81edjo | Oct 01 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | zurohki comments on Nobody can print anymore! | Oct 01 14:40 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: printers are a waste of material and space | Oct 01 14:52 |
| schestowitz | rianne uses one only cause she has to | Oct 01 14:52 |
| schestowitz | I've not had a printer since the 90s | Oct 01 14:53 |
| schestowitz | she need em for labels to be printer (no other option) | Oct 01 14:53 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 01 14:57 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/invasive-species | Oct 01 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Invasive Species [ http://ur1.ca/ptpqr ] | Oct 01 15:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782192569316958208 | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/CJg6sym1ST (techrights.org) | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222192113135616 | Oct 01 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Techrights | Oct 01 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trainline creates open source platform to help developers | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | deploy apps and environments in AWS | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4UuCgcgEak (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trainline creates open source platform to help developers deploy apps and environments in AWS | Tux Machines | Oct 01 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222193715326976 | Oct 01 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi PIXEL and More Improvements | Oct 01 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FKcoqLCyVO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi PIXEL and More Improvements | Tux Machines | Oct 01 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222194797481984 | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/9c7XklADEO | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222195946729473 | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/FOSS Events https://t.co/x1BtKkuVEK | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/FOSS Events | Tux Machines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222197142106113 | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/JtdQ6QW8wR | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| -->liberty_box (~liberty@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 16:16 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/IfMVlfp | Oct 01 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Optional input is required - Imgur | Oct 01 16:18 | |
| <--liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Oct 01 16:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @magicbrad favourited 'Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 &...' | Oct 01 17:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782250164488704000 | Oct 01 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/QejAZkopiw | Oct 01 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 17:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 01 17:15 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/getting-high | Oct 01 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Getting High | Oct 01 17:26 | |
| -->pidgin_log (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782252518738984960 | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/QejAZkopiw | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 17:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782254971463016448 | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The Wine development release 1.9.20 is now available." | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6hC1FaZpuh (www.winehq.org) | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3sMpsU5YTb (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 17:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 1.9.20 is now available. | Oct 01 17:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 1.9.20 Has New Clipboard API Reimplementation - Phoronix | Oct 01 17:35 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Oct 01 17:50 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 17:52 | |
| <--schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Oct 01 17:52 | |
| -->schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 17:52 | |
| -->tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 18:11 | |
| <--tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Oct 01 18:17 | |
| <--trn has quit (K-Lined) | Oct 01 18:25 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/G8JuIxS.jpg | Oct 01 18:26 |
| cubexyz | my printer is from the 1990s :) | Oct 01 18:28 |
| MinceR | so is mine | Oct 01 18:29 |
| cubexyz | the toner cartridge for the laserjet 5N is chemically stable and I got a great deal on a NOS one | Oct 01 18:30 |
| cubexyz | even wrote the date down.. "replaced on nov 14th 2015" | Oct 01 18:33 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/1GUMk2y.jpg | Oct 01 19:58 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/25WkN | Oct 01 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I feel like I'm still forgetting something - Album on Imgur | Oct 01 20:25 | |
| cubexyz | AMI does Linux testing so no excuses for Lenovo | Oct 01 20:34 |
| cubexyz | they remove support for old stuff... it seems everyone does this more or less | Oct 01 20:35 |
| cubexyz | e.g. Intel Nehalem Family (retired) | Oct 01 20:36 |
| cubexyz | VIA C7 (retired) | Oct 01 20:36 |
| MinceR | maybe lenovo did do linux testing | Oct 01 20:36 |
| MinceR | "doesn't work -- check" | Oct 01 20:36 |
| cubexyz | possible | Oct 01 20:37 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure how much BIOS programming Lenovo does though | Oct 01 20:38 |
| cubexyz | BIOS is _supposed_ to be platform agnostic | Oct 01 20:48 |
| cubexyz | for example in the original IBM PC you could load CP/M or msdos | Oct 01 20:49 |
| cubexyz | coreboot continues that... | Oct 01 20:49 |
| cubexyz | not funny: | Oct 01 20:55 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-boot-windows-81.jpg | Oct 01 20:55 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/HNZzRjc.jpg | Oct 01 21:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 01 21:07 |
| -->DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 21:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782257538708361217 | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/eV0JoK0vuL | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 21:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 01 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782257541229064192 | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 1.9.20 https://t.co/WtYDEmVdjp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 21:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 1.9.20 | Tux Machines | Oct 01 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's still in the news | Oct 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: IMPORTANT: | Oct 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | someone from germany told me today in comments that his yoga 900 (IIRC) could take gnu/linux OK | Oct 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | so this may be another bit of evidence, suggesting that they don't artificially cripple the devices/desktops/laptops everywhere in the world | Oct 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did you get a response from the AG or whatever ? FTC? | Oct 01 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Nope | Oct 01 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | breadbitten 6 points 1 day ago | Oct 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's been a known issue since the AU was released. | Oct 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/50kawh/anniversary_updates_freezing_issue_is_fixed_in/ | Oct 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Basically, if you have Win10 installed in an SSD and apps installed in another drive, the SSD experiences periodic spikes in disk usage which froze the system for the entire duration. | Oct 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | MS released an update to fix the issue about a week or two after but it did absolutely nothing for most users experiencing that bug. | Oct 01 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Anniversary Update's freezing issue is fixed in today's updates! (OS on SSD, Apps on HDD) : Windows10 | Oct 01 22:47 | |
| MinceR | better upgrade to a free unix, then | Oct 01 23:03 |
| <--pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Oct 01 23:07 | |
| -->DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 23:25 | |
| <--DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | Oct 01 23:28 | |
| ---DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Oct 01 23:30 | |
| DaemonFC | http://qz.com/796101/no-mans-sky-is-being-investigated-in-the-uk-for-false-advertising/ | Oct 01 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | No Man's Sky is being investigated in the UK for false advertising — Quartz | Oct 01 23:33 | |
| DaemonFC | No Man’s Sky was billed as a revolutionary video game—one that contained such multitudes of programmatically generated planets and animals that the developers said even they weren’t sure what players would find in its vast universe. | Oct 01 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | What the players did find, based on user reviews and comment threads across the internet, was a bare-bones, bug-ridden, ultimately shallow version of the game the developers at Hello Games had promised. | Oct 01 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | On Steam, the PC game distribution platform, 88% of the more than 10,000 No Man’s Sky user reviews posted in last 30 days are negative. | Oct 01 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | “This game has endless possiblities [sic],” the top review says. “Almost all of which are not featured in this game.” | Oct 01 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No wonder it went to Gog.com so fast. | Oct 01 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | They have a hard time trying to sell it. Who wants to pirate it? | Oct 01 23:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see my updates in Twitter (other channel) | Oct 01 23:35 |
| schestowitz | re Lonovo | Oct 01 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | I'm considering playing through TES: Oblivion again. The DLCs all came out after I finished the main quest. | Oct 01 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It did say it could take weeks to get a reply from the Illinois AG office. | Oct 01 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | They probably have bigger fish to fry. | Oct 01 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | As state law enforcement goes, Illinois seems better than average. | Oct 01 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | The state has laws against some things Facebook does, and they are pursuing that. | Oct 01 23:37 |
| schestowitz | that's OK | Oct 01 23:37 |
| schestowitz | just keep being pushy and assertive while polite too | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | until you have sometuing to publish | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | keep it in the headlines, it reminds people not to buy Lenovo | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | and they'll suffer for it, serving as warning sign to other OEMs who got propositions from Microsoft | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | We did this to Novell after the patent deal | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | This deal sank their sales across the board (not just SUSE) | Oct 01 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They quickly deleted their admission that there is a Microsoft contract. | Oct 01 23:39 |
| schestowitz | and so no other major Linux company with a distro fell for it except Linspire and Xandros (not big) | Oct 01 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Now they have people saying it was probably a low level employee who misspoke. | Oct 01 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I remember Linspire pretty well. It started out as Lindows and they got a lot of money from MS to change the name. | Oct 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz | eyah | Oct 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz | 20 million IIRC | Oct 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz | *yeah | Oct 01 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they overpromised what it would be. They said it would be a Linux OS that ran your Windows software and it turned out to be a not-very-good Linux OS with a software store you had to subscribe to *after* paying money for the OS! | Oct 01 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | And the Windows compatibility.....was Wine. And the state of wine from the early 2000s didn't run many Windows apps. | Oct 01 23:41 |
| schestowitz | new wine release today BTW | Oct 01 23:42 |
| schestowitz | not sure if you follow this | Oct 01 23:42 |
| schestowitz | I put links in tuxmachines about it | Oct 01 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | The only computer I have is my laptop. | Oct 01 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | My desktop had the CPU cooler pop off and it fried the processor. | Oct 01 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | I hate these modern Intel boards where you pop in the CPU cooler legs. | Oct 01 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Half the time you just break the leg and need to buy a new cooler. | Oct 01 23:44 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kBzvYEQ.jpg | Oct 01 23:45 |
| <--liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Oct 01 23:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7915570 | Oct 01 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Or better say, "bail out the students"? https://twitter.com/MnGreens/status/782333699169800192 | Oct 01 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | "adequately or irresponsibly? it is the government subsidies that caused the high tuitions and worthless degrees" | Oct 01 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MnGreens: Only one party is talking about adequately dealing with the student debt crisis - #VoteGreen2016 #SteinBaraka https://t.co/u1oQzNKHDf | Oct 01 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, Romans were that stupid | Oct 01 23:48 |
| schestowitz | and bloodlusting | Oct 01 23:48 |
| schestowitz | and ancient Greeks wants to f* their mothers, based on stories they boast about | Oct 01 23:48 |
| cubexyz | just learned today the Lenovo X60 had BIOS with other bad stuff in it | Oct 01 23:48 |
| cubexyz | wifi card lockout | Oct 01 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'll replace Windows 10 as soon as they get Linux to recognize the SSD. | Oct 01 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | If this is really the way Ultrabooks are going, then eventually some Linux developer will get one and decide to work on it. | Oct 01 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | Then again, many OEMs just let you put it in AHCI mode, so maybe it will never get fixed. | Oct 01 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | People who want to run Linux just avoid Lenovo and I'm stuck with Windows 10 forever. | Oct 01 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | The simpler the fix the more likely it gets done. That's why I suggested having Linux reset the storage controller mode to AHCI after GRUB loads the kernel. | Oct 01 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | That has the added benefit of allowing people to dual boot with Windows in "RAID" mode without having to reinstall it to get it to stop crashing. | Oct 01 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | For people who want a dual boot configuration, anyway. | Oct 01 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It seems with Wine it's always one step forward and two steps back. | Oct 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're going to have to implement Universal Windows App support. | Oct 01 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Although some of the code that Microsoft recently released as open source may help Wine. | Oct 01 23:53 |
| MinceR | sounds like a trap | Oct 01 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | We now have their Powershell, .Net, and Chakra Javascript engine. | Oct 01 23:53 |
| MinceR | the first two (at least) designed to be a patent minefield | Oct 01 23:54 |
| MinceR | yay! | Oct 01 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's all under the MIT license. In theory, anyone who makes a web browser could implement Chakra as their Javascript engine, though I understand it's mostly for debugging and running things like Node.js. | Oct 01 23:54 |
| MinceR | which includes no provisions for sw patents | Oct 01 23:55 |
| MinceR | so they'll happily send their lawyers to patent extort you once you release something based on their crap | Oct 01 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think that MS would have a hard time arguing that they released it under a license saying that anyone could use it, modify it, or redistribute it, and that they didn't want them to do that. | Oct 01 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm also unaware of anything that Powershell or Chakra do that fall under an MS patent. | Oct 01 23:56 |
| MinceR | the licence applies to the copyright on the source code | Oct 01 23:56 |
| MinceR | it says nothing about the patents that cover that code | Oct 01 23:56 |
| MinceR | powerhell is based on .net | Oct 01 23:56 |
| MinceR | i don't know about chakra | Oct 01 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | Chakra isn't. | Oct 01 23:56 |
| MinceR | i never cared about the brokenness inside idiot exploiter and its new name | Oct 01 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | EdgeHTML is still proprietary for now. | Oct 01 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | It may become open source at some point. | Oct 01 23:57 |
| MinceR | and nobody cares | Oct 01 23:57 |
| MinceR | does anyone still expect m$ to someday come up with a browser that isn't total garbage? | Oct 01 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | EdgeHTML isn't "garbage", but the Edge browser is. | Oct 01 23:58 |
| MinceR | they either don't care about project quality or are completely incompetent, or both | Oct 01 23:58 |
| MinceR | s/jec/duc/ | Oct 01 23:58 |
| MinceR | they probably consider any cent not spent on ads, lawyers or corruption to be a waste of money | Oct 01 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | They made a decent rendering engine and stuffed it into a useless web browser that's full of spyware and forces you to use Bing even if you don't want to, where Adblock doesn't work properly. | Oct 01 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | So I almost never open Edge. | Oct 01 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, People are treating Edge like they did IE. | Oct 01 23:59 |
| BACKUP | ||
| *Disconnected (Connection timed out). | Sep 25 01:13 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 01:13:09 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 01:13:40 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 25 01:13 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 25 01:13 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 25 01:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @_Vision__ favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 25 01:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 25 01:18 | |
| *XRevan86_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 25 01:24 | |
| *trn has quit (Quit: quit) | Sep 25 01:33 | |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 01:36:33 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 25 01:36 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 25 01:36 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 25 01:36 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 25 01:38 | |
| *trn (jhj@trnsz.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 01:43 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 25 01:55 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 01:55 | |
| *trn has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 25 01:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I posted Lenovo's customer service number and how to get directly to an agent in my Reddit threads so that they can get feedback from their valued customers. | Sep 25 01:57 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 25 01:58 |
| MinceR | i think they got all the feedback they cared for from their valued microsoft | Sep 25 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I hope they get flooded with calls. Wish I found the number the other day. | Sep 25 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | Customer service ffilibuster. | Sep 25 02:06 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 25 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | *filibuster | Sep 25 02:06 |
| MinceR | the market economy fails again, businesses don't give a shit about what their customers want | Sep 25 02:07 |
| *trn (jhj@trnsz.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 02:08 | |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/m-p/3438016#M8440 | Sep 25 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | I posted Lenovo's customer service number and how to get directly to an agent in my Reddit threads so that they can get feedback from their valued customers. | Sep 25 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 25 02:10 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Customer Service 800-565-3344 | Sep 25 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Press 2 for all other models and then wait through the recording and press 1 for laptops. | Sep 25 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 25 02:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Re: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID... - Page 29 - Lenovo Community | Sep 25 02:10 | |
| DaemonFC | I know that a company that prides itself on excellent customer service would love the opportunity to gain the feedback and insight of the communities that they serve. | Sep 25 02:10 |
| cubexyz | so Lenovo actually fixed the BIOS? | Sep 25 02:29 |
| MinceR | lenovo saying "Solved" doesn't mean jack shit | Sep 25 02:30 |
| MinceR | >In order that others are able to find this statement easier, when searching, I am marking this post as the solution | Sep 25 02:30 |
| MinceR | the statement is worthless | Sep 25 02:30 |
| cubexyz | so no then | Sep 25 02:31 |
| cubexyz | I'm not seeing a fix | Sep 25 02:32 |
| cubexyz | did they mean the hardware hack is the solution? | Sep 25 02:42 |
| cubexyz | I don't understand what the solution was/is | Sep 25 02:42 |
| MinceR | one solution is to hack the firmware so it lets you select AHCI in the setup | Sep 25 02:44 |
| MinceR | another solution is to hack the kernel so it forces AHCI mode on boot (apparently the uefi firmware won't reset the setting then) | Sep 25 02:44 |
| MinceR | yet another solution is to buy some other laptop | Sep 25 02:44 |
| MinceR | and yet another solution is to glass redmond, preferably when the oligarchs are there | Sep 25 02:45 |
| MinceR | or just let the human species exterminate itself finally | Sep 25 02:45 |
| cubexyz | and it appears the European versions of the problem Yoga latops don't have AHCI mode hidden in the BIOS | Sep 25 02:51 |
| cubexyz | and there's no reason to lock out AHCI say the experts, hmmmm | Sep 25 02:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Ricardoluna80S favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 02:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861866747047936 | Sep 25 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | digiKam 5.2.0 is published... https://t.co/TboQtDYCSz | Sep 25 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 02:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 02:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | digiKam 5.2.0 is published... | Tux Machines | Sep 25 02:55 | |
| cubexyz | if there's a kernel hack/patch for this I haven't seen it anywhere | Sep 25 02:56 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC mentioned getting garrett to write one | Sep 25 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | He said he'd look into it. I haven't heard anything more. | Sep 25 02:57 |
| cubexyz | the BIOS locking out AHCI only in North American markets stinks | Sep 25 03:00 |
| cubexyz | at least for us in North America | Sep 25 03:01 |
| MinceR | oh, i guess yet another solution would be adapting the existing driver in Linux to also recognize the mangled device id | Sep 25 03:02 |
| cubexyz | could you hang a USB hard drive on it and boot from that? I guess not? | Sep 25 03:03 |
| MinceR | almost certainly | Sep 25 03:04 |
| MinceR | unless uefi gets in the way, of course | Sep 25 03:04 |
| cubexyz | it sounds like it was pretty well locked down in various ways | Sep 25 03:04 |
| MinceR | (which is, admittedly, all uefi exists to do) | Sep 25 03:04 |
| cubexyz | remember that guy Joachim Kempin was "hitting the OEMs harder than in the past with anti-linux... they should do a delicate dance" | Sep 25 03:05 |
| cubexyz | but the fact that the EURO version works and the NA one doesn't means that M$ has more control closer to home | Sep 25 03:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861867850104832 | Sep 25 03:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 MATE - Fairly solid | Sep 25 03:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7N88KGViX2 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 03:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 03:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 MATE - Fairly solid | Tux Machines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861868911276032 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/yxjvmYssj2 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861870014451712 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Leftovers https://t.co/tvg0rjJfHF | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779861871016894465 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google may unveil merged Android and Chrome OS, dubbed | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda, at event https://t.co/gTzxrUuP88 | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google may unveil merged Android and Chrome OS, dubbed Andromeda, at event | Tux Machines | Sep 25 03:08 | |
| cubexyz | but it's probably better to avoid the whole thing... I was going to suggest using flashing the Yoga with the Euro version of the BIOS but who knows if that would work | Sep 25 03:10 |
| cubexyz | the unsocketed BIOS chip makes experiments of that nature very risky | Sep 25 03:10 |
| *wgas has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 03:10 | |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, THat report turned out to be wrong. | Sep 25 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | Users in several European countries said theirs has the missing AHCI too. | Sep 25 03:13 |
| cubexyz | ok, good to know | Sep 25 03:13 |
| cubexyz | I'd still like to know if the boot from USB is possible though | Sep 25 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it is. | Sep 25 03:54 |
| *slbtc has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 25 04:03 | |
| *slbtc (~slbtc@2602:302:d113:8ce0::18) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 04:09 | |
| *amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 04:10 | |
| MinceR | systemd's a cancer / it's a forced companion / you can feel it everywhere | Sep 25 04:28 |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Sep 25 04:44 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 04:44:41 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 04:45:06 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 25 04:45 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 25 04:45 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 25 04:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HTwood96 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 04:48 | |
| *daemol (~daemol@117.196.165.173) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 05:05 | |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, I'll probably end up using my Best Buy rewards points to get the fastest USB 3 flash drive they sell and run Linux that. | Sep 25 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | I have three USB ports, but one of them is also where the power adapter plugs in. | Sep 25 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | So if you use it as USB, you can't charge the laptop at the same time. | Sep 25 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | I also have an SD card slot. | Sep 25 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | Which is faster? | Sep 25 05:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @moriartym3 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 05:12 | |
| cubexyz | I think SSD would be faster than even a USB 3.0 hard drive | Sep 25 05:13 |
| cubexyz | especially for small read/writes | Sep 25 05:14 |
| cubexyz | no moving parts in the SSD, so virtually no seek time | Sep 25 05:14 |
| *daemol has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | Sep 25 05:15 | |
| cubexyz | USB vs microSD hmmm | Sep 25 05:17 |
| cubexyz | the microSD card should still be faster | Sep 25 05:18 |
| cubexyz | might not be a big difference though | Sep 25 05:18 |
| cubexyz | a fast class 10 SD card might be the way to go | Sep 25 05:20 |
| MinceR | not UHS-I? :> | Sep 25 05:20 |
| MinceR | though i guess it also depends on what the host supports | Sep 25 05:20 |
| cubexyz | does the Yoga have that? :) | Sep 25 05:20 |
| MinceR | dunno | Sep 25 05:21 |
| cubexyz | it's got a 4-in-1 card reader: SD, MMC, SDXC, SDHC | Sep 25 05:23 |
| *knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 25 05:26 | |
| *knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-091-096-173-005.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 05:28 | |
| cubexyz | I think class 10 would imply UHS-1 | Sep 25 05:29 |
| cubexyz | e.g. 256 gb SDXC Class 10 UHS-1 90 mb/s reads, 45 mb/s writes | Sep 25 05:31 |
| cubexyz | unless the BIOS mucks it up, hohoho | Sep 25 05:32 |
| *cmdshftn_ is now known as cmdshftn | Sep 25 05:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ashucg97 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 05:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/gnome_asia/status/779904216345088001 | Sep 25 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester | Sep 25 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @gnome_asia #uk with #gnomelove cake and drinks | Sep 25 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8BqcmQUFds | Sep 25 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 05:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with #gnomelove cake and drinks https://t.co/8BqcmQUFds | Sep 25 05:57 | |
| DaemonFC | About the only good thing about the Signature Edition PCs is that they don't come with the useless trial software. | Sep 25 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently it's getting so bad that there are up to 32 pieces of it on the average new PC. | Sep 25 06:05 |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Sep 25 07:37 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 07:37:23 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 07:37:47 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 25 07:37 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 25 07:37 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 25 07:37 | |
| brendyn | Is it a good idea to block donation requests by defualt? | Sep 25 08:04 |
| brendyn | Re Libreboot & GNU: Looks like Leah might be a bit crazy in this case? (obviously I have no issues with being transgender) | Sep 25 08:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @schestowitz What to expect ? Both got...' | Sep 25 08:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bsdfortune http://twitter.com/bsdfortune/status/779936917672620032 | Sep 25 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest BSD fortune BSD digest! | Sep 25 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7VD6vkAsUO (paper.li) Thanks to @dravirmani | Sep 25 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @karinjiri | Sep 25 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 08:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | BSD fortune BSD digest | Sep 25 08:08 | |
| *Cookie` (~cookie@4.86.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 08:16 | |
| *Cookie` has quit (Changing host) | Sep 25 08:16 | |
| *Cookie` (~cookie@hpavc/Cookie) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 08:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ari_akm retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 08:37 | |
| *MarkBilk_ (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 08:46 | |
| *pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 25 08:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | brendyn: yes, irrational | Sep 25 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | I know more, but was asked not to talk about it publicly | Sep 25 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | libreboot might boot leah | Sep 25 09:14 |
| *antilope (53a2b42f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.162.180.47) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 09:23 | |
| antilope | hello Roy | Sep 25 09:23 |
| r_schestowitz | hi | Sep 25 09:23 |
| r_schestowitz | how are you? | Sep 25 09:23 |
| antilope | last friday BB put 3 reports on our intranet, big big reports i tell you you should get copies | Sep 25 09:23 |
| antilope | i am fine | Sep 25 09:24 |
| antilope | money money money that what it is all b=about | Sep 25 09:24 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, i wrote about it last night | Sep 25 09:24 |
| r_schestowitz | about the reports | Sep 25 09:24 |
| r_schestowitz | but nobody sent me the full docs | Sep 25 09:24 |
| antilope | I am sure in short time suepo will comment on these reports, writteen by Deloitte who now suddenly are experts on patent issues | Sep 25 09:25 |
| antilope | we need a mail box for that | Sep 25 09:25 |
| antilope | for a print version | Sep 25 09:25 |
| antilope | you will be astonished | Sep 25 09:25 |
| r_schestowitz | antilope: it won't even mean money for the Office | Sep 25 09:27 |
| r_schestowitz | he's squeezing for the golden egg | Sep 25 09:28 |
| antilope | yes | Sep 25 09:28 |
| r_schestowitz | killing the goose (reputation of EPO) | Sep 25 09:28 |
| antilope | renewal fees for the office will sink dramatically (in the report called NRF) | Sep 25 09:28 |
| r_schestowitz | how can I get a copy of the docs? | Sep 25 09:28 |
| r_schestowitz | I can annotate these | Sep 25 09:28 |
| r_schestowitz | or if something passes them with added remarks | Sep 25 09:28 |
| antilope | but, theoratically, the office will collect 50 % of the state renewal fees (whhich can be zero) | Sep 25 09:28 |
| antilope | you got an e mail? | Sep 25 09:29 |
| antilope | within 3 years we are at the EPO in deep trouble as examiners | Sep 25 09:30 |
| r_schestowitz | no backlog | Sep 25 09:30 |
| r_schestowitz | just rubberstamping, I hear... | Sep 25 09:30 |
| antilope | correct | Sep 25 09:30 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, I have email | Sep 25 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | s at schestowitz dot com | Sep 25 09:31 |
| antilope | it is a bit exagerated but it is correct | Sep 25 09:31 |
| antilope | okay understood | Sep 25 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, exaggerated for sure | Sep 25 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | but SUEPO has a euphoric vision | Sep 25 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | of French system being imitated | Sep 25 09:31 |
| antilope | I will see if I an get you copies | Sep 25 09:32 |
| antilope | it is very interesting stuff you know | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | Some workers made copies | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | I can publish raw first | Sep 25 09:32 |
| antilope | of course, it is public | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | need to ensure no metadata hidden in there first | Sep 25 09:32 |
| antilope | but it is not on the EPO website | Sep 25 09:32 |
| antilope | exactly | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | intranet | Sep 25 09:32 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 25 09:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | I know | Sep 25 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | antilope: do we know what time it was published? | Sep 25 09:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Any timestamp on it? | Sep 25 09:33 |
| antilope | i do not know of course | Sep 25 09:33 |
| r_schestowitz | I want to know if after 5pm | Sep 25 09:33 |
| r_schestowitz | CET | Sep 25 09:33 |
| r_schestowitz | OK, I just hope someone will 'leak' it to us | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | before the 'press' (IAM, MIP) 'reports' on it | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | we can post a rebuttal to it | Sep 25 09:34 |
| antilope | I never leak, but as I guess this is public info it will have an AC number | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | I have a lot of today with free time available and took Tuesday off wor | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | *work | Sep 25 09:34 |
| r_schestowitz | if you can find a link to it, that might help too | Sep 25 09:35 |
| antilope | yes | Sep 25 09:35 |
| r_schestowitz | but AFAIK, there's no such link yet | Sep 25 09:35 |
| r_schestowitz | we need to undermine the puff pieces before they start coming | Sep 25 09:35 |
| antilope | you better be fast | Sep 25 09:35 |
| r_schestowitz | and then link to this, to highlight the issues to so-called journalists like Joff | Sep 25 09:35 |
| antilope | in the reports it is one big hurraaa story | Sep 25 09:36 |
| r_schestowitz | well, it might start Monday on IAM | Sep 25 09:36 |
| r_schestowitz | and 'part 2' of the Nurton 'interview' with Batti at MIP | Sep 25 09:36 |
| antilope | i gotta go speak later srry | Sep 25 09:36 |
| r_schestowitz | Which he said would cover "social" issues | Sep 25 09:36 |
| *antilope has quit (Quit: Page closed) | Sep 25 09:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | they work on cooperation with EPO on this | Sep 25 09:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779963711616417792 | Sep 25 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A short critique of Stallmanism https://t.co/qjnnDIAhFp | Sep 25 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (jancorazza.com) | Sep 25 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 09:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jancorazza.com | A short critique of Stallmanism | Sep 25 09:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/779960594464116738 | Sep 25 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @wikileaks @schestowitz You are falling for a speech writer. He suggests Hillary would be more a 'war president' than Trump is. *eyeroll* | Sep 25 09:49 | |
| r_schestowitz | I agree with you... | Sep 25 09:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @BinaryBoss192 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779970589918461952 | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi Mi Box seen at Walmart shelf for $69 | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bMKM2tpdZv (www.androidauthority.com) | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Xiaomi Mi Box seen at Walmart shelf for $69 - Android Authority | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779971258876325888 | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bodhi 2.2.2 released https://t.co/pXBeWQ31Wc (github.com) | Sep 25 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Release Bodhi 2.2.2 released · fedora-infra/bodhi · GitHub | Sep 25 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779971838214561792 | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Ambassadors: Measuring Success | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KBxnaIKDSV (hub.cprofitt.com) | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hub.cprofitt.com | Charles Profitt — Fedora Ambassadors: Measuring Success | Sep 25 10:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779972476122099712 | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sony Xperia XZ pre-orders go live, available on October 2 | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z5FjEmKMuw (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 25 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Sony Xperia XZ pre-orders go live, available on October 2 | Sep 25 10:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @slaf66 favourited 'Celebrating #gnomerelease in #releaseparty in #manchester #uk with...' | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779975131099639808 | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google may unveil merged Android and Chrome OS, dubbed | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Andromeda, at event https://t.co/RzrcXzdjDk | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.digitaltrends.com) | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | NO TITLE | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779976053422825472 | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A short critique of Stallmanism https://t.co/Yluhhc1do9 | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A short critique of Stallmanism | Tux Machines | Sep 25 10:29 | |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 10:33 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 25 10:33 |
| r_schestowitz | 0/ | Sep 25 10:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | r_schestowitz, hi | Sep 25 10:35 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | raziel_tzu, ping | Sep 25 10:35 |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 25 11:10:15 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 25 11:10 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 25 11:10 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 25 11:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/547qo5/whats_your_favorite_example_of_something_that/ | Sep 25 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What's your favorite example of something that "just works" under Linux? : linux | Sep 25 11:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53xvk9/bbc_reports_on_the_lenovo_linux_issue/ | Sep 25 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | BBC reports on the Lenovo Linux issue : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pslvz ] | Sep 25 11:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | “The BBC’s R&D department is 75% linux based, 15% Solaris based and 10% Windows/Mac” | Sep 25 11:20 |
| r_schestowitz | “Microsoft is to blame for lacking essential systems configuration options like manually overriding driver choice” https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/545faj/blame_intel_not_microsoft/ | Sep 25 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Blame intel not Microsoft! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pslwg ] | Sep 25 11:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/542liq/uptime_funk_uptown_funk_parody_by_suse_linux/ | Sep 25 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody by Suse Linux) : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pslxg ] | Sep 25 11:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRlTISvjww | Sep 25 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pslxh ] | Sep 25 11:28 | |
| *grapefroot (~grapefroo@93.175.9.239) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 11:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779976054999965697 | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/WDxrXFX7FA | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 11:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779987727030837248 | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My Mom Runs Linux! https://t.co/hSblEmgk2y | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (freedompenguin.com) | Sep 25 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | My Mom Runs Linux! - Freedom Penguin | Sep 25 11:39 | |
| *XRevan86_ (~XRevan86@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 11:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/540nv9/whats_really_going_on_with_microsoft_lenovo_and/ | Sep 25 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | "What's really going on with Microsoft, Lenovo and Linux": corporate reps continue to talk as though Linux is a vendor, or at least a product : linux | Sep 25 11:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | I like the modified headline | Sep 25 11:41 |
| r_schestowitz | but they're still lying | Sep 25 11:41 |
| r_schestowitz | as in Germany there was none of the same issues | Sep 25 11:42 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/779989072693436418 | Sep 25 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: I put years of work into destroying M$ in their place @schestowitz | Sep 25 11:46 | |
| cubexyz | ok, this should be interesting... | Sep 25 11:51 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53v6u4/anybody_running_linux_on_a_dell_xps_13/ | Sep 25 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Anybody running Linux on a Dell XPS 13? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm07 ] | Sep 25 11:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: what, the above? | Sep 25 11:51 |
| r_schestowitz | or Lenovo stuff? | Sep 25 11:51 |
| cubexyz | no....can the lowly P4 handle 720p video :) | Sep 25 11:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I am catching with how Reddit had it covered | Sep 25 11:51 |
| cubexyz | I suspect not :) | Sep 25 11:51 |
| cubexyz | the Lenovo Yoga... the newer one, I'd just avoid it completely | Sep 25 11:52 |
| cubexyz | BIOS is still a big problem in general | Sep 25 11:53 |
| cubexyz | it goes back to the chips without datasheets... | Sep 25 11:53 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53rtyr/software_fredom_day_2016_how_did_you_celebrate/ | Sep 25 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Software Fredom Day 2016: How did you celebrate? What will you do next year? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm0t ] | Sep 25 11:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: is there a simple/mainstream way around it | Sep 25 11:57 |
| r_schestowitz | like laptops that come with coreboot or without the blobs, libreboot? | Sep 25 11:57 |
| r_schestowitz | I know about ones that are sold online | Sep 25 11:57 |
| r_schestowitz | and i think some chromebooks adopt coreboot | Sep 25 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779993657495674880 | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What’s New in Wayland and Weston 1.12? | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7QzoXlnWLr (blogs.s-osg.org) | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.s-osg.org/whats-new-wayland-weston-1-12/ ) | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779995936663691264 | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ElementaryOS Loki Release Follow Up | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ACtBAbFQ9k (blog.elementary.io) 45,000 | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | downloads in just days | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.elementary.io | elementary blog — Loki Release Follow Up | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/779998885540487168 | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The problems with backporting are numerous." | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Wuo3Cy0HUP (lwn.net) | Sep 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Backports and long-term stable kernels [LWN.net] | Sep 25 12:01 | |
| cubexyz | there's really no substitute to studying the hardware closely | Sep 25 12:02 |
| cubexyz | chromebooks/boxes with crouton looks very promising though | Sep 25 12:03 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53sppb/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/ | Sep 25 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Warning: Microsoft Signature PC program now requires that you can't run Linux. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm1m ] | Sep 25 12:03 | |
| cubexyz | I've found that most hardware up to 2004 worked well, and AMI did do testing on Linux up to 2004 | Sep 25 12:04 |
| cubexyz | but repairability of chromebooks isn't the greatest | Sep 25 12:05 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54c1bd/ftpgnuorg_down/ | Sep 25 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | ftp.gnu.org down! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm1w ] | Sep 25 12:05 | |
| cubexyz | there's still things about Tyan slot 1 boards I'm learning about... and that's 18 years old now | Sep 25 12:06 |
| cubexyz | I never did completely learn Consumer IR | Sep 25 12:08 |
| cubexyz | there's three different IR standards | Sep 25 12:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @JewPlease favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 25 12:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 25 12:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780001029324701696 | Sep 25 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Swear words in Linux kernel source code | Sep 25 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xkUWZBMxNt (www.vidarholen.net) | Sep 25 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vidarholen.net | Linux kernel word count | Sep 25 12:10 | |
| cubexyz | I'd say I have a pretty good understanding of the BIOS up to the late 1990s | Sep 25 12:15 |
| cubexyz | coreboot does the minimum to get things going | Sep 25 12:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Glatorcom favourited 'Swear words in Linux kernel source code https://t.co/xkUWZBMxNt' | Sep 25 12:17 | |
| cubexyz | AMI BIOS handled more permutations | Sep 25 12:17 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 12:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003268881739776 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CYT8BE2MUs (www.linuxforum.com) | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003346404913153 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxforum.com | Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc | Linux Forum | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | FreeBSD 11.0 Final Release ISO Images Available For | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download https://t.co/J1ZtuwMb6M (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.0 Final Release ISO Images Available For Download | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003348153978880 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My Mom Runs Linux! https://t.co/5faeZ3Ysg9 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Mom Runs Linux! | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780003349311594496 | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet of Things https://t.co/Kiv3yhj9Rn | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:19 | |
| cubexyz | CW Linux offers coreboot motherboards but they sell CPU modules, not ATX stuff | Sep 25 12:21 |
| cubexyz | https://www.coreboot.org/Products | Sep 25 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'www.coreboot.org' ( status 0 @ https://www.coreboot.org/Products ) | Sep 25 12:22 | |
| cubexyz | linutop is the other computer that comes to mind that you can actually order | Sep 25 12:22 |
| cubexyz | 189 Euros... | Sep 25 12:23 |
| cubexyz | outside of chromebooks and the like, coreboot is still on the fringe I'm sorry to say | Sep 25 12:25 |
| r_schestowitz | wow, linutop | Sep 25 12:26 |
| r_schestowitz | haven't heard of them for years | Sep 25 12:26 |
| cubexyz | I'm not too sure they really ship with coreboot :-/ | Sep 25 12:26 |
| cubexyz | there's barely any code in /src/mainboard/linutop | Sep 25 12:27 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53yr82/why_is_there_no_ads_for_linux/ | Sep 25 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why is there no ads for Linux? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm4i ] | Sep 25 12:27 | |
| r_schestowitz | yuck | Sep 25 12:27 |
| cubexyz | but at least it works with Linux and that's well tested, no funny stuff | Sep 25 12:28 |
| cubexyz | gluglug used to sell thinkpads with libreboot | Sep 25 12:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53i097/a_warning_just_briefly_interrupted_my_tv/ | Sep 25 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | A warning just briefly interrupted my TV broadcast, and it displayed a kernel panic with a mention of Fedora before displaying the actual warning : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psm4p ] | Sep 25 12:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: https://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=05.Projects&proj=07.%20Linux%20on%208bit | Sep 25 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dmitry.gr | Linux on an 8-bit micro? - Dmitry Grinberg [ http://ur1.ca/psm51 ] | Sep 25 12:30 | |
| r_schestowitz | your kind of turf | Sep 25 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @KobbyDon1 http://twitter.com/KobbyDon1/status/780003351542976513 | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KobbyDon : @tuxmachines-Kaspersky Lab Announces Security | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yYc1PFs9jR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ixp10 http://twitter.com/ixp10/status/780003586042241024 | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KobbyDon : @tuxmachines-Kaspersky Lab Announces Security | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9seMCWYIhI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Sep 25 12:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ThingsVentures retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet...' | Sep 25 12:37 | |
| cubexyz | 2 hours to boot to a bash prompt? no no no | Sep 25 12:40 |
| cubexyz | I would never do that | Sep 25 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780008269792284672 | Sep 25 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Can Justin Trudeau Fix Canada’s Broken Government IT | Sep 25 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | System? https://t.co/4nLljbsf4J (opensourcewriter.com) | Sep 25 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcewriter.com | Can Justin Trudeau Fix Canada’s Broken Government IT System? – Open Source Writer | Sep 25 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780008661540278272 | Sep 25 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based | Sep 25 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet of Things https://t.co/ku9MWGzc6n | Sep 25 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 25 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 12:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet of Things - Tizen Experts | Sep 25 12:44 | |
| cubexyz | on the PDP-11/10 it didn't have a BIOS or even boot roms | Sep 25 12:48 |
| cubexyz | you had to toggle in the bootstrap loader using the front panel :) | Sep 25 12:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @offfieldsocial favourited 'Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet...' | Sep 25 12:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ThingsVentures retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kaspersky Lab Announces Security solution for Tizen-based Internet...' | Sep 25 12:54 | |
| cubexyz | running Unix on a PDP-11 or even a 68000 ok... but not 8-bit | Sep 25 13:00 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ehby/my_router_listens_on_port_22_without_being_set_to/ | Sep 25 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | My router listens on port 22 without being set to do it : linux | Sep 25 13:01 | |
| cubexyz | same issue at the core.... closed firmware | Sep 25 13:09 |
| cubexyz | I bet they are running stock firmware | Sep 25 13:09 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53o3te/can_i_get_6_monitors_working_on_ubuntu_now/ | Sep 25 13:11 |
| r_schestowitz | I use 4 | Sep 25 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Can I get >6 monitors working on Ubuntu now? : linux | Sep 25 13:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | but separate machines | Sep 25 13:11 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/542wh0/how_do_foss_companies_exist_without_someone_just/ | Sep 25 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | How do FOSS companies exist without someone just taking the source code and starting their own company? : linux | Sep 25 13:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | ":Wait, so you're telling me that FOSS can promote the creation of new companies (create competition also) and in turn create more jobs? ...nah, Linux and the rest of FOSS is communist /s" | Sep 25 13:17 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @allenpg favourited 'Can Justin Trudeau Fix Canada’s Broken Government IT...' | Sep 25 13:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780013096622579713 | Sep 25 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MakuluLinux LinDoz 12 Beta is Ready ! | Sep 25 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uxZN0mZypZ (www.youtube.com) | Sep 25 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 13:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MakuluLinux LinDoz 12 Beta is Ready ! - YouTube | Sep 25 13:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/780020336809172992 | Sep 25 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: I've made it through 17 years of desktop GNU/Linux @schestowitz Only had to use winduhs in someone elses office. | Sep 25 13:30 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bob_moss/status/780020969888940032 | Sep 25 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: And yet those who lead a truly aesthetic Linux-only life are still in the minority. Work still to do - Microsoft &… https://t.co/ypiTyqHTKZ | Sep 25 13:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: And yet those who lead a truly aesthetic Linux-only life are still in the minority. Work still to do - Microsoft &… https://t.co/ypiTyqHTKZ | Sep 25 13:30 | |
| *XRevan86_ is now known as XRevan86 | Sep 25 13:40 | |
| *slbtc has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 25 13:54 | |
| *Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 25 13:54 | |
| *slbtc (~slbtc@2602:302:d113:8ce0::18) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 13:58 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 14:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780019084822011906 | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/P6nnch4Wv9 (medium.com) | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer – Medium | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031329245114369 | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5AifYSz5nZ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Every Little Hacker needs a Little Linux Computer | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031330385993728 | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Italian Military's LibreOffice Migration Underway; | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 100,000+ PCs To Be Migrated https://t.co/SjfqFfUiY0 | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Italian Military's LibreOffice Migration Underway; 100,000+ PCs To Be Migrated | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:09 | |
| MinceR | 25 062917 < cubexyz> I think class 10 would imply UHS-1 | Sep 25 14:15 |
| MinceR | no, the other way around :> | Sep 25 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031331807801344 | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/OuvBRrm6gf | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031333095526400 | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Releases https://t.co/3t0CvMTBy2 | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Project Releases | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780031334102159360 | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU News https://t.co/OkfvmxXstJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU News | Tux Machines | Sep 25 14:18 | |
| *grapefroot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 14:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Zor08 favourited '#gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew' | Sep 25 14:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: #gnomeparty #manchester #gnomelove https://t.co/YOQp8x98ew | Sep 25 14:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780036314964066304 | Sep 25 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 25/9/2016: Linux 4.7.5, 4.4.22; LXQt 0.11 | Sep 25 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hEtiSYlyAo (techrights.org) | Sep 25 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 14:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 25/9/2016: Linux 4.7.5, 4.4.22; LXQt 0.11 | Techrights | Sep 25 14:35 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.net/2016/09/19/9-work-cartoons-that-are-here-to-save-you-from-doing-any-work-today/ | Sep 25 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.net | 9 Work Cartoons That Are Here to Save You From Doing Any Work Today – Pleated-Jeans.com | Sep 25 15:10 | |
| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54agii/richard_stallman_and_gnu_refused_to_let_libreboot/d80gckp | Sep 25 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | postmodest comments on Richard Stallman and GNU refused to let libreboot go, despite stating its intention to leave -Leah Rowe | Sep 25 15:12 | |
| MinceR | https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8977829888/hA778F77F/ | Sep 25 15:26 |
| MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1737/ | Sep 25 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Datacenter Scale | Sep 25 15:52 | |
| cubexyz | ok, 1280x720 video on the p4 was a dismal failure :) | Sep 25 16:15 |
| cubexyz | I figure downsizing to 640x360 should work | Sep 25 16:16 |
| cubexyz | doubleplusunfun | Sep 25 16:24 |
| raziel_tzu | xD | Sep 25 16:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 25/9/2016: Linux 4.7.5, 4.4.22; LXQt 0.11 https://t.co/hEtiSYlyAo' | Sep 25 16:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 25 16:34 | |
| *raziel_tzu is now known as razielle_tzu | Sep 25 17:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089288327168000 | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/MKXuEEa4E4 | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Sep 25 17:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089289426083840 | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/8zofjUEMBd | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 17:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 25 17:59 | |
| *acer-box____ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 18:05 | |
| *Tervy has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 25 18:05 | |
| *Tervy (Tervy@laamaperhe.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 18:05 | |
| *acer-box____ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 18:05 | |
| MinceR | https://67.media.tumblr.com/fbaa675db8155f4396db75369ec67676/tumblr_o94k3567FP1soccv6o1_400.gif | Sep 25 18:29 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/SonyKapoor/status/779980472126439424 | Sep 25 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SonyKapoor: #Genius… #TrumpSandwich … https://t.co/ntiA5AS2iB | Sep 25 18:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SonyKapoor: #Genius… #TrumpSandwich … https://t.co/ntiA5AS2iB | Sep 25 18:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: seen the Trump one earlier | Sep 25 19:36 |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 25 20:19 | |
| *amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 20:22 | |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| *r_schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| *r_schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| *r_schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| *r_schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 25 20:23 |
| *schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 20:23 | |
| razielle_tzu | o/ | Sep 25 20:23 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, o/ | Sep 25 20:23 |
| razielle_tzu | SebthreeBQM10HD: how are you? | Sep 25 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ok you | Sep 25 20:24 |
| razielle_tzu | pretty good | Sep 25 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | was a good day yesterday | Sep 25 20:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | today not really | Sep 25 20:25 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7887581 | Sep 25 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: My Mom Runs Linux! https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/mom-runs-linux/ | Sep 25 20:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freedompenguin.com | My Mom Runs Linux! - Freedom Penguin [ http://ur1.ca/psmtz ] | Sep 25 20:28 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Mine too!" | Sep 25 20:28 |
| r_schestowitz | Many use Android too | Sep 25 20:28 |
| razielle_tzu | why is today not so great SebthreeBQM10HD? | Sep 25 20:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah I saw that a littel while ago | Sep 25 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | mine uses LINUX TO FOR ABOUT TWO years | Sep 25 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | didnt want caps | Sep 25 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, another boring usual kind of weekend day at home | Sep 25 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yesterday went to the LUG in the city and yeah | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089290604679169 | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IBM Claims “New Linux Based Power System Server Kicks | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Butt https://t.co/juJjJTKGgg (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 20:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM Claims “New Linux Based Power System Server Kicks Butt | Tux Machines | Sep 25 20:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089291594620928 | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel Backports and Graphics https://t.co/IECP12J34m | Sep 25 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 20:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Backports and Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 25 20:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780089292680855552 | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/IL9EktZbaZ | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 20:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 25 20:30 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, met some FRench guy nearly same age, who wil help out with the event all day | Sep 25 20:30 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Sep 25 20:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, could tell from emails before meeting, that we would get on and yep | Sep 25 20:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | went to eat at the venue afer woulds to | Sep 25 20:30 |
| razielle_tzu | :) | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | was going to do that anyway, but yes it's beter to go with someone. eat out too much on my own at places realy hmm | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | mostly | Sep 25 20:31 |
| razielle_tzu | http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-new-advocacy-group-is-lobbying-for-the-right-to-repair-everything?utm_source=mbfb < my partner just found this | Sep 25 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | A New Advocacy Group Is Lobbying for the Right to Repair Everything | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/pso1y ] | Sep 25 20:31 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, got the old guy going on at me about contactging the council | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, for a focal point | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | someone to get it out more | Sep 25 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or hopefully | Sep 25 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well once got proper flyers! | Sep 25 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but yeah ok i'll do that as well then, just under four weeks to go | Sep 25 20:32 |
| razielle_tzu | :) | Sep 25 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, if it were to get ovver crowdded as in more than 65 of us | Sep 25 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that would be something actually | Sep 25 20:33 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 25 20:33 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | indeed | Sep 25 20:33 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and going to put 30 pounds into facebook markettin as wel | Sep 25 20:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | since tha's not really geting people so far etc so | Sep 25 20:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, got a Tizne phone ocming or hopefully | Sep 25 20:42 |
| razielle_tzu | good for you, i repaired a mobile over hte weekend and have my smaller phone working again | Sep 25 20:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, andgot a cheap aldi android phone from the other week, that still not had on etc properly | Sep 25 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, for a while had to figure out how to get the cae off first to since hmm | Sep 25 20:44 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 20:44 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, I intend to show Tizen phone at the event as well :) | Sep 25 20:44 |
| razielle_tzu | cool | Sep 25 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, you know peoples beloved Samsung, but running something else :d not Android | Sep 25 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and that is also Linux based though | Sep 25 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Tizen also like the Jollla phone has Android apps compatability | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, but can only really buy them from india directly for now | Sep 25 20:45 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ebay as well hmm | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | first time I have bought something on Ebay in fact | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | myself | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and known about it for years, but yeah it's for like peopl selling second hand stuff etc hmm | Sep 25 20:45 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, if the tracking isn't updated better on ebaby tommorw I am going to be a bit more hmm | Sep 25 20:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | says it's left some where in india though, but | Sep 25 20:46 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hmm | Sep 25 20:46 |
| MinceR | http://krautchan.net/files/1474808011004.webm | Sep 25 20:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whats | Sep 25 20:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | taht | Sep 25 20:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ? | Sep 25 20:57 |
| MinceR | cleaning snow from a car with music | Sep 25 20:57 |
| razielle_tzu | that hurt my ears | Sep 25 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780127174288367617 | Sep 25 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/aBGi36CtP1 | Sep 25 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 25 21:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/aBGi36CtP1' | Sep 25 21:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: good one.. | Sep 25 21:03 |
| *TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 21:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 21:05 | |
| *blahblah (bcc3aaca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.195.170.202) has joined #techrights | Sep 25 21:08 | |
| *blahblah has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 25 21:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/780136592988045316 | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/2tRUP1z7xQ | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 25 21:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780141998904864768 | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Twitter App ‘Corebird’ Now Supports Longer Tweets | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4G4PFOOBAx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 25 21:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Linux Twitter App 'Corebird' Now Supports Longer Tweets - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 25 21:28 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 25 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux | Sep 25 21:33 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm also looking into filing a consumer fraud lawsuit in small claims court. Lenovo probably isn't going to bother showing up over $1337.49. | Sep 25 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Now, after I get a judgment against them, I'll have to get it attached to something, butt I'm sure Lenovo has assets in Illinois. | Sep 25 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I read about a guy who sued Wells Fargo for fraudulent foreclosure practices, nobody showed up, he won, and they never paid him. He sent the Sheriff to confiscate their office furniture and sell it at a Sheriff's sale, and they paid him the money gathered from that, then they paid him for court costs and getting the Sheriff involved. | Sep 25 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Gah, more typos. | Sep 25 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hate this keyboard. | Sep 25 21:34 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Viper_Lizzie favourited 'Linux Twitter App ‘Corebird’ Now Supports Longer Tweets...' | Sep 25 21:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780142149543288832 | Sep 25 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GTK Radio Player ‘Gradio’ Gets New Beta Release, Gains | Sep 25 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Features https://t.co/6ut9Hj7N9K | Sep 25 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 25 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | GTK Radio Player 'Gradio' Gets New Beta Release, Gains New Features - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 25 21:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good stuff! | Sep 25 21:38 |
| r_schestowitz | I'll spread the wprd | Sep 25 21:38 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 25 21:39 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: got several retweets and comments now | Sep 25 21:44 |
| r_schestowitz | so I suppose it might get upvoted too, by some... | Sep 25 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I complained to the Illinois Attorney General's office too. | Sep 25 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Copy/Paste of FTC complaint. | Sep 25 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Considering small claims lawsuit against Lenovo in state court. | Sep 25 21:47 |
| r_schestowitz | good | Sep 25 21:48 |
| r_schestowitz | i did too about other things | Sep 25 21:48 |
| r_schestowitz | twice to FTC | Sep 25 21:48 |
| r_schestowitz | I got a reply | Sep 25 21:48 |
| r_schestowitz | but not a detailed letter, more like a template reply | Sep 25 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK [S] 0 points 16 minutes ago | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm also looking into filing a consumer fraud lawsuit in small claims court. Lenovo probably isn't going to bother showing up over $1337.49. | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now, after I get a judgment against them, I'll have to get it attached to something, but I'm sure Lenovo has assets in Illinois. | Sep 25 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I read about a guy who sued Wells Fargo for fraudulent foreclosure practices, nobody showed up, he won, and they never paid him. He sent the Sheriff to confiscate their office furniture and sell it at a Sheriff's sale, and they paid him the money gathered from that, then they paid him for court costs and getting the Sheriff involved. | Sep 25 21:49 |
| r_schestowitz | lenovo might be camping in reddit by now | Sep 25 21:51 |
| r_schestowitz | if they're business 'smart' | Sep 25 21:51 |
| r_schestowitz | after like 8 separate threads slamming them and urging to boycott a market worth billions per annum | Sep 25 21:51 |
| r_schestowitz | so don't be shocked if they watch and bury you there | Sep 25 21:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I'd at least expect it, you needn't be paranoid to expect it several days after this many threads | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | so, my suggestion | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | you cannot see who's modding but you see who's commenting | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | see their age of the accounts just in case | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | MS got caught astroturfing in reddit already | Sep 25 21:52 |
| r_schestowitz | they hired an agency to game the comments for xbox (the example we know about), via an agency that provides such - ahem - 'services' | Sep 25 21:53 |
| r_schestowitz | So check the age of the accounts and recent activities | Sep 25 21:53 |
| r_schestowitz | at least for those who comment, just in case you can identify a pattern. That's how one can spot Shillaries in Twitter, among other Turfers | Sep 25 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Lenovo temporarily banned me from their forum for saying that they were being unethical by modifying my posts. | Sep 25 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | 77 hours (don't ask me why 77) | Sep 25 21:55 |
| r_schestowitz | ta | Sep 25 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, So far the only comment troll has a five year old account. | Sep 25 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | So that wasn't just created by Lenovo. | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780143620401795073 | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Katamari Creator’s ALPHABET Now Available for PC, Mac, | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Linux https://t.co/pEjiPvCEQb (nichegamer.com) | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nichegamer.com | Katamari Creator's ALPHABET Now Available for PC, Mac, and Linux - Niche Gamer | Sep 25 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780144540300828678 | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | blocking Linux and other operating system installations | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1XX6WtkL6f (www.reddit.com) | Sep 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 25 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux | Sep 25 21:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks, I've quoted you | Sep 25 21:56 |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Sep 26 02:01 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 26 02:01:06 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 26 02:01:32 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 26 02:01 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 26 02:01 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 26 02:01 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Been trying to edit Lenovo's wikipedia. People keep removing it. | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Pre-loading bloatware with security issues[edit] | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | As of June 2016, a Duo Labs report stated that Lenovo was still installing bloatware, some of which leads to security vulnerabilities as soon as the user turns on their new PC.[75][76] | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Dolby Audio X2 Engine[edit] | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has preloaded "Dolby Audio X2 Engine" onto certain laptops, which creates a local privilege escalation vulnerability in Windows due to insecure and unnecessary file permissions. Lenovo has rated the severity of this vulnerability "High".[77] | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Hit them from every angle possible. | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Let Wikipedia readers see what kind of crap they do. | Sep 26 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I found another one. | Sep 26 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | I changed it a little. | Sep 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Accelerator[edit] | Sep 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | As of June 2016, a Duo Labs report stated that Lenovo was still installing bloatware, some of which leads to security vulnerabilities as soon as the user turns on their new PC.[75][76] Lenovo advised users to remove the offending app, "Lenovo Accelerator".[77] | Sep 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Dolby Audio X2 Engine[edit] | Sep 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has preloaded "Dolby Audio X2 Engine" onto certain laptops, which creates a local privilege escalation vulnerability in Windows due to insecure and unnecessary file permissions. Lenovo has rated the severity of this vulnerability "High".[78] | Sep 26 02:08 |
| *slbtc has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 26 02:10 | |
| DaemonFC | According to Lenovo, the app, designed to "speed up the loading" of Lenovo application, created a man-in-the-middle security vulnerability. | Sep 26 02:12 |
| r_schestowitz | 32+, will have reached 100 by morning | Sep 26 02:12 |
| r_schestowitz | gn | Sep 26 02:12 |
| *KyriosBrastianos (~quassel@ipa99.19.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 02:33 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]redsteakraw [score hidden] 34 minutes ago | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | FTC really? Why not simply not buy products from Lenovo and tell / convince individuals and organizations to do the same. For the people that have purchased them encourage exploits and make them public to help further ring them through the mud. Crying to the government is pathetic, take real action in your own hands instead of cowardly trying to hide behind the government. Lenovo makes more money on huge contracts for deployment in | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | businesses and institutions so stressing their problems and exploits as well as sordid history to the people in charge of making orders would go much further to hurt them. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | Reminding people of superfish and their bundled malware will also help your cause. Gamergate, like them or hate them did do a number on Gawker by hitting their revenue streams and exploiting their screw-ups. While it didn't kill them the Hulkamania himself did the final blow. It was later revealed Gamergate's tactics did contribute to their downfall. Do not forgive and do not forget their slights, grow a pair and hit them where it hurts, | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | their wallets. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 21 minutes ago | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | The reason that Gawker went down was because billionaire Donald Trump lackey Peter Thiel dumped an unlimited amount of money into Hulk Hogan's lawsuit to destroy them. It was a 1%er war on the press, and it worked. They would have survived GamerGate, which was absolute nonsense. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparenteditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]redsteakraw [score hidden] 14 minutes ago | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | GamerGate weakened them and pinched their revenue streams, the Hulk Hogan - Peter Thiel tag team finished the company. Peter Thiel was pissed that Gawker outed him as being gay. Payback is a bitch. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 6 minutes ago* | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm gay. When I lived in Indiana, I was fired from one job because of that, and they didn't break any state laws at all. Here in Illinois it's illegal. I survived it. I'm not too worried about what anyone thinks. | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Peter Thiel went in front of the RNC and shouted "I'm proud to be gay!". I would have liked to have seen the looks on the faces of the Republican Party insiders/activists present for that one. :) | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Not exactly an open-minded group of people, but social conservatism is a disease. | Sep 26 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Being a billionaire gives you a lot of privileges. If someone hates Thiel for being gay, he doesn't have to worry about not getting a paycheck next week. Takes no courage for him to say anything. | Sep 26 02:49 |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 26 02:55:37 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 26 02:55 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 26 02:55 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 26 02:55 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I noticeed that my tor ip address is in the UK. | Sep 26 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | I can watch iplayer.. | Sep 26 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | [–]iindigo [+1] [score hidden] 3 minutes ago | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say it's worth pointing out that Apple doesn't block installation of third-party operating systems on their computers. Even the iPad-like more-appliance-than-PC 12" MacBook booted Windows from day 1, and as far as I can tell they run Linux fine too – as they should. | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | If the most experience-controlling PC company in existence allows freedom of OS, what does that say of Lenovo? | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreplied | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I never imagined that there could be a nastier and more controlling computer hardware company than Apple until I got a Lenovo laptop. | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I got it because it was the cheapest thing at Best Buy with this class of hardware, and Lenovo managed to ruin the whole thing with a couple of lines of BIOS code. | Sep 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be rebooting the demo model with a Linux USB stick and making sure the laptop can see the storage next time, before I leave the store with one. | Sep 26 03:04 |
| MinceR | pity crApple's hardware sucks | Sep 26 03:06 |
| MinceR | the ordinary MacBook has a weak GPU, the MacBook Air 11" has a shitty display resolution, the others are heavy as fuck | Sep 26 03:07 |
| MinceR | and they're afraid of disclosing the exact CPU models | Sep 26 03:07 |
| MinceR | then there's the stupid gimmicks making their hw unreliable or even dangerous | Sep 26 03:09 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/a/l9zqY | Sep 26 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Sep 26 03:15 | |
| MinceR | crApple is all hype and no substsnce | Sep 26 03:15 |
| MinceR | s/tsn/tan/ | Sep 26 03:15 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Bhmk2 | Sep 26 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So, what's the problem? - Album on Imgur | Sep 26 03:20 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 26 03:22 | |
| *Tervy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | Sep 26 03:30 | |
| *Tervy (Tervy@laamaperhe.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 03:31 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 03:38 | |
| *wgas (~quassel@unaffiliated/wgas) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 03:40 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/54f89p/tpbclean_is_the_pirate_bay_but_without_the_porn/ | Sep 26 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | TPBClean is The Pirate Bay but without the porn. : Piracy | Sep 26 03:47 | |
| DaemonFC | –]BaronHK 5 points 4 hours ago | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | There might as well be no porn on TPB. According to news articles I've read, porn and Game of Thrones are the two things most likely to result in DMCA notices to your ISP. HBO just wants to say "We know what you did. Get an HBO subscription!", but the porn companies will actually demand settlement money and blackmail you with threats of including the file names in the (public) court filings if you don't pay up and they sue you. Some | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | speculate that the most litigious porn trolls are posting and seeding their own stuff as bait. | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveeditdisable inbox repliesdeletereply | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | [–]Squeezymypenisy [+1] 2 points 45 minutes ago | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | porn companies | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Must be because they aren't close to the profits they used to have. | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point a minute ago | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Probably. The price of a porn DVD/Blu Ray is upwards of $30 at Priscilla's in Fort Wayne. Pfft! And There's a really small selection of gay porn, and most of it is from 5-10 years ago and none of it will ever be on Blu Ray. | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know what the going price is in Chicago. Haven't been to any shops here. Amazon has a wider selection at better prices. Plus it drives religious employees nuts that they have to pick and pack sex toys and lubes and videos. I remember one of them quit and then tried to sue Amazon for having her pick merchandise in that department. I thought it was hysterical. | Sep 26 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | from torontohatesfacts [-3] via /r/linux sent 5 minutes ago | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | show parent | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Yet you still chose to buy the MICROSOFT SIGNATURE SERIES MODEL. As in MICROSOFT had Lenovo build it to specifications that MICROSOFT designed. Had you bought a Lenovo only product, one that wasn't built for Microsoft certification specifically you would have a claim. | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | contextfull comments (85)reportblock usermark unreadreply | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | BaronHK[S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | So what? Linux works on the Microsoft Surface (at least for now it does). | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Why would I suspect that they'd start doing nasty things on another company's computers. Now that I think about it, it makes sense. Trial balloon. Test it out on Lenovo and see if it blows up on them. | Sep 26 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Probably helps that Lenovo stock has lost 2/3rds of its value in the last year. People don't trust them because of prior bad acts. Microsoft can control them by dangling money like they did in the last days of NOKIA. | Sep 26 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | Like one of those predatory wasps that takes over an ant and buries their eggs in it. | Sep 26 03:56 |
| MinceR | finally! it was so difficult to resist searching for porn on TPB | Sep 26 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | [–]torontohatesfacts [-4] [score hidden] 5 minutes ago | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you for displaying clearly that you are not of a reasonable mindset. You have a preset idea, do not at all attempt to research it out of interest in accuracy and are clearly not in a position to make claims to the FTC or courts on such matters. | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Test it out on Lenovo? How about you look through the Microsoft Store, the following companies all sell SIGNATURE EDITION MICROSOFT CERTIFIED LAPTOPS. | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | ASUS Acer Alienware Dell HP Huawei Lenovo MSI Microsoft Razer Toshiba VAIO | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo crashed in the last year and a half. If you invested a dollar in Lenovo, you'd have like 35 cents today. Test it out on a company with a reputation for doing despicable things like Superfish and Lenovo Service Engine (crapware reinstalling BIOS). | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing that they had done so far would affect Linux users though. | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe the malicious EXE in the LSE BIOS would have done something if you had wine installed and set up to handle Windows programs. I don't know. There was a study a while back to see if malware from Windows was wine compatible. Most of it either didn't do anything or just corrupted your wine profile. | Sep 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | Up until now, when Lenovo was caught and ran out of bs that they could spew, they corrected the problem, but I doubt they're ever going to fix this. | Sep 26 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | [–]Sl31gh3r86 [S] 2 points 1 day ago | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | so what you're saying is university wont care unless harassed by big companies like paramount and HBO | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | It depends on the university. Several years ago, the MPAA wrote a "University Toolkit" that installed on the network and it basically narced out all of the students that were pirating things. Matthew Garrett at Canonical (at the time) found out that they were using a copy of Xubuntu Linux in the toolkit, in violation of the copyright (GNU General Public License) and sent the MPAA a DMCA take down notice. | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | Later it was revealed that universities that were stupid enough to install it essentially created a backdoor for the MPAA to cart off a lot of their other files and logs. | Sep 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | Just do what Terry said and get a paid VPN like Private Internet Access. Strong encryption. Doesn't keep logs. Tunnel through that while on the university's network. Hell, on your own network. Stay out of trouble with your ISP too. | Sep 26 04:43 |
| *MarkBilk_ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 26 04:49 | |
| *MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 04:53 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Lenovo stock is down. | Sep 26 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | Probably for other reasons. Who knows? | Sep 26 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect the thing that's been holding them up is central bank stimulus, cost cutting, etc. | Sep 26 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | They admit that revenue and sales are down and cost cutting was the only thing that made net profits go up last quarter. | Sep 26 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | When companies make announcements like that, it means that they are in trouble. | Sep 26 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, what happens when you squeeze out all of the "efficiency". Laying people off, shutting down less profitable divisions, etc? | Sep 26 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | If your sales don't pick up you have one good quarter and then you're cooked. | Sep 26 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | I've been working on Wikipedia edits to Lenovo articles. | Sep 26 04:58 |
| *MarkBilk has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 26 04:58 | |
| DaemonFC | I slipped in the blurb about recent Yogas not working with Linux and Lenovo admitting that it's incompatible. | Sep 26 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | Then I went to their main page and added some more blurbs about bloatware preinstalls that caused security issues on Windows. | Sep 26 04:58 |
| cubexyz | 4 hours of 720P video = 6 gigabytes | Sep 26 05:11 |
| cubexyz | time to convert 1280x720 video to 640x360 on the P4? 48 hours | Sep 26 05:12 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cujounited followed @tuxmachines | Sep 26 05:13 | |
| cubexyz | it only took a day to compile KDE 3.4.2 on the dual 550 mhz P3 | Sep 26 05:13 |
| cubexyz | predicted size of downsized video: 1.5 gigs | Sep 26 05:14 |
| cubexyz | conclusions: forget about P4 for 720P video | Sep 26 05:14 |
| cubexyz | video conversions are mostly CPU bound | Sep 26 05:16 |
| cubexyz | looks like this computer is from the 2002 era | Sep 26 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/d829c91 | Sep 26 05:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | BaronHK comments on Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. | Sep 26 05:24 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point 2 minutes ago | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | This is what I have so far from a Linux kernel developer that I asked about the Lenovo Yoga issue (Matthew Garrett): | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | If you could install a Linux distribution in the first place then GRUB would get as far as reading the kernel off of the disk because GRUB is using the uEFI drivers at that point. Once it hands off to Linux, then Linux could be patched to hurry up and reset the controller and bring it back up in AHCI mode (which is what Lenovo removed from the BIOS) before it starts enumerating PCI devices (the SSD is on a PCI-E bus). | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | He told me you want to patch the file arch/x86/boot/compressed/eboot.c to make sure it's done before the kernel goes looking for devices. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | So it's theoretically possible. He said he would go see if it is documented and then maybe throwing together a quick patch if it is. He also said he's probably not going to try to push for it to be merged, so that will have to be done by someone else taking the patch and lobbying one of the kernel subsystem maintainers. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | So we have a lot of ifs, buts, and mights here: | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | If it's possible. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | He might write a patch. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | But he won't lobby to get it upstreamed. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | So it would be up to the subsystem maintainer if we get past all of that, and I'm not his favorite person in the world, so he might not even do it. I don't know. He did the last time I flushed a company out for writing a stupid BIOS that did something completely undocumented. It turned out that Windows had a hardware quirk for that behavior and so he copied what Windows was doing to work around the bug. The company in question released a | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | proper patch for their board, but they made similar boards for a bunch of other OEMs, so the quirk would help anyone stuck with those. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, I was using a G33 board from Foxconn with a Core 2 Duo. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | It turns out that when you're dealing with firmware, there are a lot of violations of the spec, and if anything it is only getting worse with uEFI, which is a 7,000 page self-contradictory specification that is full of Microsoft-isms. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | So all of this because Lenovo wrote extra code to stop you from using AHCI in the uEFI firmware. | Sep 26 05:24 |
| cubexyz | writing BIOS is pretty hard, not many can do it | Sep 26 05:29 |
| cubexyz | I hear google has a 30 person team to help with coreboot | Sep 26 05:30 |
| cubexyz | I suspect that no single person understands all of modern BIOS, even for a specific machine | Sep 26 05:30 |
| *Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 05:30 | |
| cubexyz | I have a decent understanding of Gigabyte GA-BXC but I'm still learning about it | Sep 26 05:31 |
| cubexyz | power management, superio, PCI bus, displaying raster graphics, POST, booting... | Sep 26 05:33 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the CPU and DRAM controller inititialization | Sep 26 05:35 |
| cubexyz | it's just about 21st century alchemy | Sep 26 05:35 |
| cubexyz | the keyboard stuff has to be initialized too | Sep 26 05:37 |
| cubexyz | I don't even have a solution for modern ATX motherboard really | Sep 26 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK [S] 1 point just now | Sep 26 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | (Superfish again) Yeah, it took that long for Lenovo release a program to delete a few files, yank out some registry keys, and what else, exactly? | Sep 26 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | "In the meantime, please enjoy the bullshit about how this isn't a security hazard even though malware is being signed with the superfish key!" | Sep 26 05:42 |
| cubexyz | minifree is selling the X200 starting at £300 (ironically a Lenovo product) | Sep 26 05:45 |
| cubexyz | with libreboot | Sep 26 05:45 |
| cubexyz | https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/ | Sep 26 05:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/ ) | Sep 26 05:47 | |
| cubexyz | it's pretty good, you get the docking station with it | Sep 26 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, 94 points (71% upvoted) | Sep 26 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like the attempted sandbogging did not succeed. | Sep 26 05:51 |
| cubexyz | once one installs libreboot on the X200 you can use additional wifi cards | Sep 26 06:00 |
| cubexyz | for the brave: | Sep 26 06:00 |
| cubexyz | https://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html | Sep 26 06:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html ) | Sep 26 06:00 | |
| *wgas has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | Sep 26 06:10 | |
| *wgas (~quassel@unaffiliated/wgas) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:12 | |
| *wgas has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 26 06:13 | |
| *Glyphie_ (sid163528@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-symzeluuvyznjdoc) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:14 | |
| *razielle_tzu_ (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:15 | |
| DaemonFC | 100 points (72% upvoted) | Sep 26 06:19 |
| *cmdshftn_ (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| *balrog_ (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| *razielle_tzu has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| *Glyphie has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| *balrog has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| *XFaCE has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| *cmdshftn has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:20 | |
| *gde33 has quit (*.net *.split) | Sep 26 06:21 | |
| *XFaCE (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:21 | |
| *balrog_ is now known as balrog | Sep 26 06:22 | |
| *gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 06:28 | |
| DaemonFC | 106 points (72% upvoted) | Sep 26 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | I think we've survived the Lenovo vote bombing. | Sep 26 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | 240 votes, including Lenovo's Chicago-style voting. (The socks have as much right to vote as anyone else in this cemetery.) | Sep 26 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why firefoxx misrepresents my screen size. | Sep 26 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | 1280 x 720? This is a QHD display. | Sep 26 06:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281706553024512 | Sep 26 06:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to | Sep 26 06:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Protect Your PC from Viruses https://t.co/WxnCYB2wVO | Sep 26 06:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 06:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 06:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to Protect Your PC from Viruses | Tux Machines | Sep 26 06:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281707630964736 | Sep 26 06:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One | Sep 26 06:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Year of Development https://t.co/6UFzk7NJWi | Sep 26 06:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 06:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 06:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One Year of Development | Tux Machines | Sep 26 06:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Update: Lenovo just updated the BIOS for the Yoga 710, another system that doesn't allow Linux installs. Wanna know what they changed? Update to TPM (secret encryption module used for Digital Restrictions Management) and an update to the Intel Management Engine, which is essentially a backdoor rootkit built into all recent Intel processors (but AMD has their version too, so what do you do?). No Linux support. Priorities... | Sep 26 06:51 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo isn't a great design in general... even the X200 requires a considerable effort to replace the bios with libreboot | Sep 26 06:56 |
| cubexyz | I'll probably get another HP Chromebook 14 | Sep 26 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/m-p/3438728#M8460 | Sep 26 07:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: Re: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID... - Page 30 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/psqo5 ] | Sep 26 07:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: 100+ | Sep 26 07:18 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: "74% upvoted" | Sep 26 07:28 |
| r_schestowitz | It was 40 something percent when I linked to it | Sep 26 07:28 |
| r_schestowitz | so obviously people on th e sub don't dislike it | Sep 26 07:28 |
| r_schestowitz | after the first 2 hours it's like 85% upvoted, see? | Sep 26 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Sep 26 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | troll voters went away I guess | Sep 26 07:30 |
| r_schestowitz | thanks for posting, glad to play along | Sep 26 07:32 |
| r_schestowitz | quite a success story for the community here, all in all | Sep 26 07:32 |
| r_schestowitz | also brought some new people to the channel | Sep 26 07:32 |
| r_schestowitz | most importantly, it send a warning sign to all OEMs that do a disservice to Linux and made "Microsoft loves Linux" look like a farce | Sep 26 07:33 |
| r_schestowitz | *sent | Sep 26 07:33 |
| r_schestowitz | I told my wife last week, this is an important topic to push on, as it would help determine how OEMs treat support for Linux, if we can show SEVERE consequences for Lenovo | Sep 26 07:34 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7885147 | Sep 26 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deavmi@pod.disroot.org reshared: #vista10 should have #microsoft sued a lot more often http://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-might-soon-track-absolutely-everything-you-do-for-your-own-good-508602.shtml see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Sep 26 07:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Nice mates. I want to get my family on GNU/Linux soon. :)" | Sep 26 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Windows 10 Might Soon Track Absolutely Everything You Do for Your Own Good | Sep 26 07:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights | Sep 26 07:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Same here: no win support due to missing knowledge. ;) | Sep 26 07:35 |
| r_schestowitz | ":) Tomet" | Sep 26 07:35 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7886255 | Sep 26 08:14 |
| r_schestowitz | "I used to like Lenovo. Nice hardware, got on rather well with their tech support back when I did hardware repair. Oh well; System 76 laptops for me from now on." | Sep 26 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anonymiss@despora.de reshared: #lenovo #deletionism follows #revisionism with #microsoft after #intel #uefi helped block #linux & #unix https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54cbss/lenovo_deleted_a_link_to_a_petition_to_the/ | Sep 26 08:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reddit.com | Lenovo deleted a link to a petition to the company to enable Linux support in their BIOS on the Yoga laptops. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psl2h ] | Sep 26 08:14 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7887821 | Sep 26 08:16 |
| r_schestowitz | "Maybe with their Linux sub-system. Idk, if they love it, they probablu do as it’s easier to maintain than Windows." | Sep 26 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Is it some more of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, or does Microsoft really love Linux." https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/546g8p/does_microsoft_really_love_linux/ #microsoft still SUES Linux. | Sep 26 08:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reddit.com | Does Microsoft Really Love Linux? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psqy3 ] | Sep 26 08:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | NSA, Troll department | Sep 26 08:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Lol | Sep 26 08:16 |
| r_schestowitz | quote from https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7889926 | Sep 26 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I see lots of threads from you on Lenovo topics. That's interesting. Who is your employer? ;)" https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ #lenovo #gnu #linux | Sep 26 08:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/psosm ] | Sep 26 08:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: watch which comments get promoted (to the top) | Sep 26 08:33 |
| r_schestowitz | the whole dynamic of the thread changed | Sep 26 08:33 |
| r_schestowitz | and nearly 80% upvoted now | Sep 26 08:33 |
| r_schestowitz | used to be over 40% at the start | Sep 26 08:33 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | No problem. I appreciate your callout too. It boggles my mind how people can justify this crap by saying "They list windows 10 pro and home as the supported operating system". | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Who would defend a car model that can only be driven on 1 or 2 highways? Bloody insane how far this sheep consumerism mentality goes. I get that it might be a honest driver issue without any malice intended, but i'd burn them just as hard because of their incompetence to do their quality assurance correctly. But guess what? they already lost their benefit of doubt on their previous fuck-up. | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, there is a pattern of bad behavior at issue here. Pre-installed malware and their response to people finding out about it (The Superfish incident), a BIOS that abused an anti-theft feature to keep reinstalling crapware, and now a half dozen or so Yoga computers that can't run Linux for no other reason than they wrote additional code to strip support for it out of a BIOS that had the support to begin with. | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Now they try to control how people are allowed to think about the issue by imposing arbitrary rules in their own discussion forum for the issue. | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Bingo | Sep 26 08:35 |
| r_schestowitz | "Lenovo shill detected" | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | (Superfish) They did not immediately stop and they said a lot of lies and dragged their feet on it before releasing a removal tool and admitting that it was a security threat. | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | (Idiotic fake RAID in the Yoga) There is no reason for supporting the fake raid in Linux. It doesn't do anything useful except work around a problem with Windows (lack of driver override support would cause Windows to use a generic driver and get bad power management if it didn't think this was RAID and load Intel's driver). The right thing to do here is almost certainly to use Linux to set the hardware back to AHCI on every boot and | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | ignore the RAID mode entirely. | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | As a result of Lenovo's incompetence/malfeasance (pick one) you can't even clean install Windows without a lot of work. You'd think that Windows 10 would bundle an Intel driver wouldn't you? Maybe they will in the future. Right now, good luck if you're an average user when the preinstalled copy of Windows goes south. | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | "No more fucking lenovo for me , that's sure." | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | Jesus Christ, Lenovo is ruining their legacy pulling off a stunt like this. Their old Thinkpads are still considered the easiest laptops on which to install a Linux Distro. | Sep 26 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | RIP (Rest in Pieces) | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | "Wow, i just came on here because i was thinking of switching to Linux on my Lenovo laptop. I guess it saves me a lot of time on research if it isn't even possible u_u Well i'll be throwing in my support by filing complaints as you suggested. What a disappointment." | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | Matthew Garrett approaches a lot of people with hostility. | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | If you want to know what he thinks is the solution, you can read it here. | Sep 26 08:37 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/d829c91 | Sep 26 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | BaronHK comments on Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. | Sep 26 08:38 | |
| r_schestowitz | He admits that the best way to approach this is probably to ignore the forced RAID mode, which by the way, Lenovo had to write additional code to hide and write-protect, and just have Linux reset the hardware to AHCI after the kernel starts. Then nobody ever has to worry about supporting the RAID controller in Linux. Lenovo probably didn't plan on anyone ever thinking about that. It doesn't help Linux anyway. It's working around a | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | limitation in Windows. The limitation being that there's no way to do a driver override in Windows when there's a better driver available (in this case for power management), so fooling it with RAID mode makes it go load Intel's driver. | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | The idea cropped up in a comment on the thread about Lenovo doing this and I took it to Garrett on his blog. | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | Even with his caustic personality and horrible social positions, he's in a position to write a patch for this. I'm not. | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, he can be hostile | Sep 26 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | don't take it too personally | Sep 26 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, You think he'll come through or is there someone else I should talk to? | Sep 26 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'd really love to get that patch in so that it works anyway despite MS+Lenovo. | Sep 26 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | It would be interesting if they broke future models in some other way. | Sep 26 08:59 |
| *pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 26 09:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:44:02) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Hi | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:44:22) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: OK, no problems | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 08:45 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:45:14) someone has signed off. | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:45:15) someone has signed on. | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:48:48) someone has signed off. | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:48:51) someone has signed on. | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 08:50 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:53:28) someone: how's it going? | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:54:21) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: good, quiet night | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 08:55 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:55:45) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: someone from techrights is still pressing Lenovo https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54gtpc/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : linux | Sep 26 09:14 | |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:00) someone: not sure how big a deal it is | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:18) someone: apple seem to get away with selling hardware with software locked in | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:42) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: right, but they advertise now as "PC" | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: anyway, it's not my 'project' | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:54) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: some people in techrights | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (08:59:58) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I mostly just observe | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 09:00 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:00:20) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: it did have a big impact in the media, ~50 articles in English-speaking media this past week | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:00:38) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: they're scrambling to build up lies on top of lies | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:00:47) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: same thing they did after Superfish scandal | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:01:02) someone: superfish? | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:01:56) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: They preinstalled very malicious spyware | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:02:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: look it up, it was all over the news for weeks earlier this year, hundreds if not thousands of press articles about it | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:02:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: (in English) | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:02:51) someone: yeah i see it now | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:03:45) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: there was another scandal last year | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:04:03) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: the Chinese company ruins a reputtable part of IBM's legacy | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | 09:05 | Sep 26 09:14 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:06:58) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: handover sent | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:09) someone: are ibm not on your shit list then? | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: obviously not | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:27) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: IBM still does a lot for gnu/linux | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:38) someone: i assumed they were atleast equally evil to microsoft | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:45) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: on patents, yes | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:07:49) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: and software patents lobbying | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:08:00) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: but at least they contribute to FOSS in many areas | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:08:06) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: and they rarely if ever attack it | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:08:37) someone: apprently at IBM you are considered a master invetor if you have 1000 patents to your name | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:09:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'm mostly focused on patents these days, in techrights at least. Software patents are dying in the US and the EPO is dying also, see my latest on it... http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Sep 26 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Sep 26 09:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | (09:09:57) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: IBM's patent policy is terrible these days http://techrights.org/2016/03/03/ibm-swpats-weaponised/ | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | 09:10 | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:10:55) someone: i don't understand how software patents work in EU/UK | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:08) someone: i was under the impression they were still not formally recognised | Sep 26 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Shortly After Massive Layoffs ‘King of Patents’ IBM is Using Software Patents to Sue Much Smaller Companies | Techrights | Sep 26 09:15 | |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:13) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: right, because it's "compicated" | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:17) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: in theory they don't exist | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:23) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: but there are deliberate loopholes | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:34) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: EPO examiners told me they grant these | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:41) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: and EPO promotes these earlier this month | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:11:51) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: UK-IPO is not much better in that regard | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:13:18) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: OK, I better get going.. ;-) | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:13:32) someone: ok | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | (09:13:36) someone: cya tommorow | Sep 26 09:15 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: for now keep their feet to the fire | Sep 26 09:15 |
| *KyriosBrastianos has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 26 09:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281708650213376 | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop virtualisation kit-calculator goes open source | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O0A75i0XTD (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop virtualisation kit-calculator goes open source | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281709665275904 | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Last Release Candidate https://t.co/nPak7k7FbS | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs Last Release Candidate | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780281710810271745 | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security and Software Updates https://t.co/eWAmE7PyTA | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security and Software Updates | Tux Machines | Sep 26 09:34 | |
| *r_schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 26 09:58 | |
| *schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780331466995695616 | Sep 26 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leaked Presentation Slide Reveals Sony’s Android 7.0 | Sep 26 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Roadmap https://t.co/n1OXppT5fM (www.ubergizmo.com) | Sep 26 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubergizmo.com | Leaked Presentation Slide Reveals Sony’s Android 7.0 Roadmap | Sep 26 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780332132182978560 | Sep 26 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 4th rumors: Google to show off merged Android/Chrome | Sep 26 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS preview, $69 Chromecast Ultra and $129 Google Home | Sep 26 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Yzav36Fykz (liliputing.com) | Sep 26 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oct 4th rumors: Google to show off merged Android/Chrome OS preview, $69 Chromecast Ultra and $129 Google Home - Liliputing | Sep 26 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780332803217055744 | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google could be about to reveal its Android and Chrome OS | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | merger https://t.co/td8P2n9d5u (www.techradar.com) | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google could be about to reveal its Android and Chrome OS merger | TechRadar | Sep 26 10:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780334045158932484 | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Firefox 49 features in Fedora https://t.co/GWuzH4wzJg | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (fedoramagazine.org) | Sep 26 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/new-firefox-49-features-fedora/ ) | Sep 26 10:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780334820039753728 | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | My talk about Mainline Explicit Fencing at XDC 2016! | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Yb9DtqMWYT (padovan.org) | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-padovan.org | My talk about Mainline Explicit Fencing at XDC 2016! – Gustavo Padovan | Sep 26 10:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780336357583585280 | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gorgeous Apricity OS Linux Distro Now Works on 32-bit | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs, Build 09.2016 Is Out https://t.co/l3LQ3CGz48 | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gorgeous Apricity OS Linux Distro Now Works on 32-bit PCs, Build 09.2016 Is Out | Sep 26 10:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780336526169432064 | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets the Latest Debian | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Fixes, Update Now https://t.co/Yk0RL1FtwF | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets the Latest Debian Security Fixes, Update Now | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780336905867108352 | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Protect Your PC from Viruses https://t.co/NJJocZDzWA | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to Protect Your PC from Viruses | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780337086176034816 | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Year of Development https://t.co/NgJRpLkqhc | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One Year of Development | Sep 26 10:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Soundtoxin retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Google could be about to reveal its Android...' | Sep 26 10:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780337757981933568 | Sep 26 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs | Sep 26 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Last Release Candidate https://t.co/hEVDJd05sz | Sep 26 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus Torvalds Outs Last Release Candidate | Sep 26 10:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780338645576343552 | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security and Software Updates https://t.co/WDEKVrL3mR | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security and Software Updates | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339239040999424 | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wattOS 10 Microwatt Edition Comes with Less of | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Everything, Based on Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/5N0Ll2WSMg | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | wattOS 10 Microwatt Edition Comes with Less of Everything, Based on Ubuntu 16.04 | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339265733554176 | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | digiKam 5.2.0 Linux RAW Image Editor Introduces a New Red | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Eyes Tool, Bug Fixes https://t.co/QWZ56LuLfX | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | digiKam 5.2.0 Linux RAW Image Editor Introduces a New Red Eyes Tool, Bug Fixes | Sep 26 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339618659131392 | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.7.5 Released with Numerous ARM and | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Networking Improvements https://t.co/ZVRxRI1ZKE | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.7.5 Released with Numerous ARM and Networking Improvements | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339846112022528 | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Worms W.M.D should have multiplatform online play by the | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | end of October, including between GOG and Steam | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/deBZSuKuXW (error) | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/worms-wmd-should-have-multiplatform-online-play-by-the-end-of-october-including-between-gog-and-steam.8173 ) | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780339997958438916 | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with In-Game | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Level Editor, Improvements https://t.co/qATUiP7Nkx | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 26 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with In-Game Level Editor, Improvements | Sep 26 10:40 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 10:50 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft says that they want to solve cancer by treating it like a computer virus. | Sep 26 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | Just like Microsoft solved computer viruses by treating them like computer vir....oh wait. | Sep 26 10:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I linked to your thread from tux machines | Sep 26 11:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that was a Microsoft spam campaign | Sep 26 11:01 |
| schestowitz | I responded to it, but not in an article | Sep 26 11:01 |
| schestowitz | then there was the Zuckerberg idiocy about curing disease | Sep 26 11:01 |
| schestowitz | same publicity stunt as Bill Gates' | Sep 26 11:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780341268979253248 | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Now Has Bootable RISC-V Disk Images Available | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/015J8lqbIj (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Now Has Bootable RISC-V Disk Images Available - Phoronix | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780347284026523648 | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 11:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 • The Register | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.7.5 Released with Numerous ARM and...' | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with...' | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to...' | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One...' | Sep 26 11:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK Linux 4.8 gets...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gorgeous Apricity OS Linux Distro Now Works on...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780347459532890113 | Sep 26 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.8 gets rc8 https://t.co/LzF3ojvRUK | Sep 26 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Antivirus Live CD 20.0-0.99.2 Uses ClamAV 0.99.2 to...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'wattOS 10 Microwatt Edition Comes with Less of...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'digiKam 5.2.0 Linux RAW Image Editor Introduces a...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LXQt 0.11.0 Desktop Environment Arrives After Almost One...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets the Latest Debian...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based Robolinux 8.6 Adds Over 275 Important Security...' | Sep 26 11:05 | |
| DaemonFC | Time for bed. I keep meaning to run by Best Buy and get a CF card so I can install a Linux distribution to is. | Sep 26 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | It's better than a kick in the ass. As they say.... | Sep 26 11:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good job | Sep 26 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 26 11:08 |
| schestowitz | most commented in sub https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/ | Sep 26 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux, GNU/Linux, free software... | Sep 26 11:09 | |
| schestowitz | except SJWs thread (older) | Sep 26 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. | Sep 26 11:10 |
| schestowitz | hopefully the Office will send a response, it can be posted as a separate post if need be | Sep 26 11:11 |
| schestowitz | if they are looking into it | Sep 26 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | office? | Sep 26 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, the AG? | Sep 26 11:11 |
| schestowitz | "Lenovo under investigation for working with Microsoft to limit choice" or something to that effect | Sep 26 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. If the state thinks they can get a good fine out of it, they'll chase it down. | Sep 26 11:12 |
| schestowitz | they can demand the contracts under NDAs or something | Sep 26 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I think they have special attorney powers | Sep 26 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Best part is that Microsoft has large offices in Illinois. | Sep 26 11:12 |
| schestowitz | where there's smoke there's usually fire | Sep 26 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | Physical presence in Chicago and Downer's Grove. | Sep 26 11:12 |
| schestowitz | home of Dick Tracy iirc | Sep 26 11:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.8 Lands October 2 as Linus...' | Sep 26 11:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780348819322044416 | Sep 26 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenChrome Maintainer Making Some Progress On VIA DRM | Sep 26 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver https://t.co/eGJvbcvz3o (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 11:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenChrome Maintainer Making Some Progress On VIA DRM Driver - Phoronix | Sep 26 11:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Yep. | Sep 26 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Night night | Sep 26 11:14 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 26 11:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-news-recap-lenovo-yogas-block-linux-skype-preview-gets-sms-relay-and-more | Sep 26 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winbeta.org | Windows 10 news recap: Lenovo Yogas block Linux, Skype Preview gets SMS Relay and more – WinBeta | Sep 26 11:17 | |
| *KyriosBrastianos (~quassel@ipa99.19.tellas.gr) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 11:41 | |
| *XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 26 11:55 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 11:55 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/09/latest-thoughts-about-brexit-and-upc.html?showComment=1474845017250#c2027066593447987249 | Sep 26 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Latest thoughts about Brexit and the UPC | Sep 26 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | It appears to me that:- | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Those who argue "wait and only ratify if the UK is guaranteed the court post-Brexit" are really saying "we don't like it, we never did like it, and this is a way of opposing it without seeming to be reactionary". | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Those who argue "kick the UK out as soon as possible" are letting a sense of hurt (which may be justified), or political purity (which is not justified) override the pragmatic calculation of the value to Europe of having the UK part of the system. | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Those who argue "ratify now, and sort out exit arrangements (if necessary) later" are recognising that this project was long fought for, but patience can snap, and it is better to be inside the system than out. | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | On pure pragmatism, ratification now makes sense. Whether pure pragmatism gets listened to in the UK these days is a different question, | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | wow | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | UPC lobbying again | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | I could not disagree more. The "ratify now and sort out the mess later" approach presupposes that there will be a politically acceptable solution down the line that allows the UK to remain part of the UPC system. When you sit down and consider what compromises this will require on the part of the UK (and the large number of EU Regulations and Directives, as well as international agreements, that will require amendment) then you realise that | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | it would be more than a little foolhardy to assume that everything will work out the way that the proponents of the UPC would like. | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | As has been argued by the IP Federation, the worst of all possible worlds would be ratification of the UPC by the UK, followed by the UK's withdrawal from the system. Indeed, which businesses could cope with the huge levels of uncertainty that such a sequence of events would generate? | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | So, to summarise, the "ratify now" approach that you propose involves either second-guessing a political outcome or setting up the worst possible outcome of all. Sorry to say, but I truly fail to see how "pure pragmatism" could lead one to follow that particular path. Are you sure that you are not letting the pre-referendum proximity to the finishing line affect your judgement? | Sep 26 12:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 12:02 |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 26 12:36 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 12:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780349753385246720 | Sep 26 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing Various HDDs & SSDs On Ubuntu With The Linux 4.8 | Sep 26 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel https://t.co/uNPZclDcLv (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 12:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Testing Various HDDs & SSDs On Ubuntu With The Linux 4.8 Kernel - Phoronix | Sep 26 12:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780367668146761728 | Sep 26 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 26/9/2016: Linux 4.8 RC8, SuperTux 0.5 | Sep 26 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oks8xfn4NE (techrights.org) | Sep 26 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 12:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/9/2016: Linux 4.8 RC8, SuperTux 0.5 | Techrights | Sep 26 12:41 | |
| *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 26 12:41 | |
| *MinceR (~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 12:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 26/9/2016: Linux 4.8 RC8, SuperTux 0.5 https://t.co/oks8xfn4NE' | Sep 26 12:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Brad_Kayl followed @tuxmachines | Sep 26 12:58 | |
| *razielle_tzu_ is now known as razielle_tzu | Sep 26 13:21 | |
| cubexyz | Acer's got a new wrinkle on the google computer | Sep 26 13:50 |
| cubexyz | the acer "chromebase" | Sep 26 13:50 |
| cubexyz | I think almost everything's in the monitor | Sep 26 13:54 |
| cubexyz | Lenovo (!) has a pretty good deal on a chromebox... only $170 CAN | Sep 26 14:00 |
| cubexyz | there's also a chromebit dongle | Sep 26 14:03 |
| cubexyz | you plug it into the HDMI port of your tv or monitor and shazam... instant computer | Sep 26 14:04 |
| *Disconnected (Connection timed out). | Sep 26 19:09 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 26 19:09:25 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 26 19:09:47 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 26 19:09 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 26 19:09 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 26 19:09 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/natural-scientists | Sep 26 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Natural Scientists | Sep 26 19:15 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14440724_1340018339359165_937755095953111589_n.jpg?oh=95a41d416bedea91d7646e1eb0ff7446&oe=58639EA8 | Sep 26 19:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/andreathekline/status/780382090575618048 | Sep 26 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@andreathekline: @schestowitz @DrJillStein stay in Brexitland | Sep 26 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure that that's even supposed to mean | Sep 26 19:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I wait for daemon to get back | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Reddit locked his thread | Sep 26 19:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | which is odd | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Con Dynasty | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe he has insight as to why | Sep 26 19:22 |
| schestowitz | next thing you know they'll ban or shadow-ban him | Sep 26 19:22 |
| MinceR | http://tribunist.com/technology/i-committed-the-biggest-mistake-of-my-life-iphone-7-owners-destroy-phones-after-drilling-their-own-headphone-jack/ | Sep 26 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-“I committed the biggest mistake of my life”: iPhone 7 Owners Destroy Phones After DRILLING Their Own Headphone Jack | Tribunist | Sep 26 19:24 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 19:26 | |
| MinceR | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/14199256_1768477530089460_6184589018484521235_n.jpg?oh=3b6726e50baf1cc0d7990651fd438d25&oe=58812BCD&__gda__=1485009575_34bf74293cfb2c07bd703a6e57d58e49 | Sep 26 19:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SB_Debbi/status/780388608394092544 | Sep 26 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SB_Debbi: @schestowitz how many different ways are you aiming to tweet the same negative comments ? Read the reports and the news | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ehschoenberger/status/780391340672712704 | Sep 26 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ehschoenberger: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka - way to grasp gov investment vs no private in sectors that need it. Knee jerk ignorance: https://t.co/dVIPVbwtXa | Sep 26 19:37 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/I6pbqhH | Sep 26 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows Update bytes off more than it can chew. - Imgur | Sep 26 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | devops LOL | Sep 26 20:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7893417 | Sep 26 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Buzzword DevOps: All Development, No Database http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2016/09/26/devops-no-database/ or, just call things what they really are, not buzzwords like Clown Computing | Sep 26 20:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> redmonk.com | DevOps: All Development, No Database – tecosystems | Sep 26 20:01 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I use clown computing joke extensively now | Sep 26 20:02 |
| schestowitz | people like it | Sep 26 20:02 |
| razielle_tzu | xD | Sep 26 20:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 20:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ed_averill/status/780479787269619712 | Sep 26 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ed_averill: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Freedom of... Assembly?, Speech?, ... | Sep 26 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ed_averill/status/780480144922193920 | Sep 26 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ed_averill: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Hey, get 2 remote presence robots and some good soap boxes! Do it from another state. | Sep 26 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/andreathekline/status/780481158375206912 | Sep 26 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@andreathekline: @schestowitz @DrJillStein you live in England- stay there- and invite Stein to move there | Sep 26 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Stay in the US, ma'em, your country has military bases in our country including one in #yorkshire #menwithhill | Sep 26 20:04 |
| schestowitz | ma'am | Sep 26 20:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tonirtx/status/780482633109155840 | Sep 26 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonirtx: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka I guess the police are just being extra careful since so many people deeply hate Trump and Clinton. | Sep 26 20:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780469911785246720 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Announcing the KDE Advisory Board | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0gMrmEIhMK (dot.kde.org) | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Announcing the KDE Advisory Board | KDE.news | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780484484588244992 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux Foundation Partners with Girls in Tech to | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Increase Diversity in Open Source https://t.co/tUtyrluxm2 | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Linux Foundation Partners with Girls in Tech to Increase Diversity in Open Source | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 26 20:10 | |
| MinceR | webserver seems to be down :( | Sep 26 20:10 |
| MinceR | it keeps giving me guru meditation | Sep 26 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780484613194014720 | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Muneeb | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kalathil https://t.co/iEBmM7Hwkh (www.linux.com) | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Muneeb Kalathil | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780485084151422976 | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Reiser4 Implements Mirror & Failover Support | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/81YLPUVMls (www.phoronix.com) Edward | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Shishkin still working on it | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reiser4 Implements Mirror & Failover Support - Phoronix | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780485384933433347 | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unimpressed with Ubuntu 16.10? Yakkety Yak... don't talk | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | back https://t.co/TrK1VuBQta (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 26 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Unimpressed with Ubuntu 16.10? Yakkety Yak... don't talk back • The Register | Sep 26 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780485727582818304 | Sep 26 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Core i7 6800K Benchmarks On Ubuntu + Linux 4.8 | Sep 26 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/x1hnUH3VXG (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Core i7 6800K Benchmarks On Ubuntu + Linux 4.8 Review - Phoronix | Sep 26 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780486424676237312 | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat's Results Underscore its Growing Focus on | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack https://t.co/ZcFL50DJcp (ostatic.com) | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Red Hat's Results Underscore its Growing Focus on OpenStack | Sep 26 20:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780489053506535425 | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | On Wednesday the 28th of September Feral Interactive will | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | livestream Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II on Linux | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EpzzEoKwv3 (error) | Sep 26 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/on-wednesday-the-28th-of-september-feral-interactive-will-livestream-warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-ii-on-linux.8176 ) | Sep 26 20:32 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: techrights? | Sep 26 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780490068494585856 | Sep 26 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam Dev Days Are In 2 Weeks; SteamOS/Linux Will Be | Sep 26 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Talked About https://t.co/z5mdTbOiQv (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 26 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Dev Days Are In 2 Weeks; SteamOS/Linux Will Be Talked About - Phoronix | Sep 26 20:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780493124435111936 | Sep 26 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Black Lab Linux 8 Beta 3 Released https://t.co/7LzDIMzTQp | Sep 26 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.blacklablinux.org) | Sep 26 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 20:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org | Black Lab Linux: Black Lab Linux 8 Beta 3 Released | Sep 26 20:47 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: indeed | Sep 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the varnish timeouts in which site? | Sep 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | yes, some load issues earlier, seems better now | Sep 26 20:47 |
| MinceR | techrights.org, but it was a while ago | Sep 26 20:48 |
| MinceR | works now, but it's still very slow | Sep 26 20:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wow, lots of downtime this afternoon based on nagios | Sep 26 21:00 |
| schestowitz | the only solace I have is, I was away and could not do much to improve it | Sep 26 21:00 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 21:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/780497167949717504 | Sep 26 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz @debates @agustinduranLA @DrJillStein but put into a POLICE VAN? Appalling behaviour. | Sep 26 21:08 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't want to get upset at things I could not prevent and happened in the past | Sep 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I came to the realisation it's just self-defeating | Sep 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | nagios alerts on a phone would not have helped unless I have an ssh client | Sep 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | neo900 might help | Sep 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | the nokia 900 project | Sep 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | MS killed Nokia's debian gnu/linux on phones with physical keyboards | Sep 26 21:09 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @maelpoke favourited 'Black Lab Linux 8 Beta 3 Released https://t.co/7LzDIMzTQp' | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780500619333435392 | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Declutter your phone for a cleaner, faster Android | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | experience https://t.co/C11NfQu6g5 (www.greenbot.com) | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Declutter your phone for a cleaner, faster Android experience | Greenbot | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780501053611601921 | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Andromeda hybrid Android/Chrome OS tested on Nexus | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 9 https://t.co/xY3SjK2mRi (www.slashgear.com) | Sep 26 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Andromeda hybrid Android/Chrome OS tested on Nexus 9 - SlashGear | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1410.html | Sep 26 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids [ http://ur1.ca/psuqu ] | Sep 26 21:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780501817629274112 | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phones 5.7 inches And Over | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ja14SKbyLQ (www.androidcentral.com) | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phones 5.7 inches And Over | Android Central | Sep 26 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780502918143287296 | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xiaomi Mi Box Android TV appears in the wild with a $69 | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | price tag https://t.co/jcocHElHiS (www.greenbot.com) | Sep 26 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Xiaomi Mi Box Android TV appears in the wild with a $69 price tag | Greenbot | Sep 26 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @justin_devs http://twitter.com/justin_devs/status/780504426641358848 | Sep 26 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @agreenbot I've tried to use AndroidTV it | Sep 26 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | just sucks very bad. Worse than AppleTV when it first | Sep 26 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | came out. | Sep 26 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 21:41 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/ozx6V5a | Sep 26 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mac OS - now with 50% more apple - Imgur | Sep 26 21:42 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't like Star Wars | Sep 26 21:43 |
| schestowitz | even before it was -- cough -- Disney | Sep 26 21:44 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 21:44 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Anon_Technology/status/780509970555101184 | Sep 26 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Anon_Technology: Democracy is a general description Demoarchy is the problem you're referring to https://t.co/2WkXWaGmgs | Sep 26 21:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It's a Republic, not a Democracy, and it was designed this way. #jillstein represents the threat OF #democracy https://t.co/xwuhhgP1xV | Sep 26 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: hi | Sep 26 21:54 |
| schestowitz | see what reddit did | Sep 26 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They locked all my posts and marked them as "misleading". | Sep 26 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Sep 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/IanMolony/status/780510048577392640 | Sep 26 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanMolony: A Democratic Republic #PartyDespotism will be our undoing @schestowitz @kshaw58 @C_A_Vision @DrJillStein https://t.co/sebQR5AnKG | Sep 26 21:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanMolony: A Democratic Republic #PartyDespotism will be our undoing @schestowitz @kshaw58 @C_A_Vision @DrJillStein https://t.co/sebQR5AnKG | Sep 26 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I don't see how it's misleading at all | Sep 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | they should flag it "editor doesn't like it!" | Sep 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SallySi84056611/status/780510452102991872 | Sep 26 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SallySi84056611: @schestowitz @USATODAY There will be only one winner in this race. By now if you can't tell a difference there is something very wrong. | Sep 26 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | The difference between Greens and GOP or Greens and 'Democrats' is profound. | Sep 26 21:56 |
| MinceR | ITT: usians having no clue about what democracy and republic are | Sep 26 21:58 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bryanbrewtech favourited 'Super Mario Clone SuperTux 0.5.0 Is Out with...' | Sep 26 22:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780512050313302016 | Sep 26 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung in talks with Russian government to distribute | Sep 26 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Z3 to students https://t.co/7kIBqpnqNM | Sep 26 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 26 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung in talks with Russian government to distribute the Z3 to students - Tizen Experts | Sep 26 22:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GPShelbyCounty/status/780511860856614912 | Sep 26 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GPShelbyCounty: @schestowitz @C_A_Vision @DrJillStein It's democracy with a little d. Still exists in a Republic. | Sep 26 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GallopinDragons/status/780512072215912448 | Sep 26 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GallopinDragons: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Who cares about either of those things? What are their positions on issues that matter to others' lives? | Sep 26 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | haha, the two-party campers | Sep 26 22:02 |
| schestowitz | they's so 'cute'.. | Sep 26 22:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StaceyLScott8/status/780512331637723136 | Sep 26 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@StaceyLScott8: Agreed! :) https://t.co/3mXhoisC1J | Sep 26 22:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @StaceyLScott8 @MSNBC She presents the danger of impermissible views being brought up for the public to think about | Sep 26 22:02 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe they know what Federation is? | Sep 26 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Russian Federation? | Sep 26 22:03 |
| schestowitz | I always wondered that.. | Sep 26 22:03 |
| schestowitz | I don't even know what USSR qualified as | Sep 26 22:03 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: unlikely | Sep 26 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Aren't these just brands/marketing of governance models? | Sep 26 22:03 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: totalitarian dictatorship | Sep 26 22:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I didn't have anything in particular in mind. | Sep 26 22:03 |
| MinceR | as long as they're used to advertise various forms of oligarchy and dictatorship, maybe | Sep 26 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Russia's election is.... strange | Sep 26 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | United States is a federation. | Sep 26 22:04 |
| schestowitz | and havign Putin in power for so long discredits this system | Sep 26 22:04 |
| MinceR | afaik they prefer to call themselves a federal state | Sep 26 22:04 |
| schestowitz | also, the press being under severe attacks means journalists are afraid to criticise the ruling party, sometimes they just die | Sep 26 22:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, polonium does that :> | Sep 26 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh, didn't know that. | Sep 26 22:05 |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2016/09/eau-de-beef/ | Sep 26 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eau de beef | Engrish.com | Sep 26 22:07 | |
| XRevan86 | RF election system makes me want to forget all about RF election system. | Sep 26 22:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 26 22:07 |
| XRevan86 | Even though I did go and voted unlike 60% of the population who apparently really succeeded at forgetting. | Sep 26 22:08 |
| MinceR | ethanol does that | Sep 26 22:09 |
| *acer-box (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:10 | |
| *acer-box____ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 26 22:12 | |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2016/09/please-stop-splashing/ | Sep 26 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Please stop splashing. | Engrish.com | Sep 26 22:15 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm forking the Linux subreddit. | Sep 26 22:24 |
| MinceR | better fork reddit itself | Sep 26 22:25 |
| MinceR | it's free software, afaik | Sep 26 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxLessModerated/comments/54n1o2/welcome_to_linux_less_moderated/ | Sep 26 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Welcome to Linux Less Moderated. : LinuxLessModerated | Sep 26 22:30 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxLessModerated/comments/54n28g/letter_to_the_federal_trade_commission_regarding/ | Sep 26 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Letter to the Federal Trade Commission regarding Lenovo blocking Linux and other operating system installations on Yoga PCs. : LinuxLessModerated | Sep 26 22:33 | |
| DaemonFC | First post, copying the one they shut down. | Sep 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz | haha, bravo, good idea | Sep 26 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Welcome to Linux Less Moderated. : LinuxLessModerated https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxLessModerated/comments/54n1o2/welcome_to_linux_less_moderated/ too much #censorship http://techrights.org/2015/05/28/reddit-censorship/ | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: is it FOSS really? | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was closed | Sep 26 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condé) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | Techrights | Sep 26 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | is voat based on the same code? | Sep 26 22:37 |
| MinceR | last time i checked it was | Sep 26 22:37 |
| MinceR | no, voat is based on .net crap | Sep 26 22:37 |
| MinceR | so voat sucks | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | hahaha | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | down-voated | Sep 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz | if you pardon the pun | Sep 26 22:38 |
| MinceR | they intended that pun | Sep 26 22:38 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 26 22:38 | |
| MinceR | https://github.com/reddit/ | Sep 26 22:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ping | Sep 26 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reddit · GitHub | Sep 26 22:39 | |
| MinceR | https://github.com/reddit/reddit/blob/master/LICENSE | Sep 26 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reddit/LICENSE at master · reddit/reddit · GitHub | Sep 26 22:39 | |
| razielle_tzu | hi SebthreeBQM10HD | Sep 26 22:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, pm me | Sep 26 22:39 |
| MinceR | this is what the Gratis Windows Foundation says about the CPAL: "This is a free software license. It is based on the Mozilla Public License version 1, and is incompatible with the GPL for the same reasons: it has several requirements for modified versions that do not exist in the GPL. It also requires you to publish the source of the program if you allow others to use it." | Sep 26 22:39 |
| MinceR | it's also approved by the OSI for what it's worth | Sep 26 22:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780512592536203264 | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat targets $5-b revenue in five years | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HysefvHvvv (www.thehindubusinessline.com) | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindubusinessline.com | Red Hat targets $5-b revenue in five years | Business Line | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526184413081600 | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pump.io Servers Adoption https://t.co/MHIHX5inWD | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pump.io Servers Adoption | Tux Machines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526185658802176 | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/z45fn0b9yP | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526186707378177 | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News https://t.co/TzXP9LNuM9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 26 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News | Tux Machines | Sep 26 22:55 | |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2016/09/see-i-told-you-the-airline-didnt-lose-it/ | Sep 26 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-See? I told you the airline didn’t lose it | Engrish.com | Sep 26 22:56 | |
| schestowitz | haha | Sep 26 22:58 |
| schestowitz | they just need to pay someone on IP phone to check it for them before production | Sep 26 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | It looks about the same as reddit. | Sep 26 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They have a discussion on voat. | Sep 26 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.voat.co/v/Linux/comments/1299811 | Sep 26 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voat.co | Linux can't be installed on recent Lenovo laptops per a secret agreement with MS | Linux | Sep 26 23:03 | |
| DaemonFC | The mod on /r/linux in Reddit seems to be pretty hostile to Linux and free software. | Sep 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | not new | Sep 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks for the link | Sep 26 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: At some point all moderators of Linux.org.ru (the biggest Russian-speaking GNU/Linux community) were Apple users. | Sep 26 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | it got better, some new moderators got in who are actually into FOSS | Sep 26 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | but still, interesting trend :) | Sep 26 23:06 |
| MinceR | slashdot also got inundated with crApple cultists | Sep 26 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The first comment in the list on voat quotes me. | Sep 26 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | "The Lenovo employee posted about locking the thread. Basically, he called me disruptive and then said that if they had to, they would turn on pre-approval so that nobody can comment anywhere on their support forum until they've read it and have made sure it won't embarrass them." | Sep 26 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | northportage says "Now, not only do the affected people still want an answer, everyone else has seen how they handle problems. Glad we've ditched them. | Sep 26 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | " | Sep 26 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: At least they didn't embarrass themselves. | Sep 26 23:10 |
| XRevan86 | Totally didn't happen. | Sep 26 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Sep 26 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.voat.co/v/Linux/comments/1302685 | Sep 26 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voat.co | What's really going on with Microsoft, Lenovo and Linux | Linux | Sep 26 23:21 | |
| DaemonFC | [–] Kleyno 3 points (+3|-0) 4 days ago (edited 4 days ago) | Sep 26 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Bullshit article. Are you really telling me that Lenovo intentionally crippled this line of laptop to a single OS, without any kickback from the company whose OS is the only one that will work on the hardware? | Sep 26 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Where is the incentive, where is the profit? The fact that these "special" laptops don't come with bloatware as well, tells me that they must be getting additional funding from somewhere to offset the lack of money from the bloatware makers. | Sep 26 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Mark my words, Microsoft have provided extra incentive to Lenovo to limit support to a single OS. | Sep 26 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | [–] ketezer 6 points (+6|-0) 5 days ago | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | I keep hearing about the "new Microsoft" but this sounds exactly like the old Microsoft. | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | permalink save source reply report spam | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Steve Ballmer....Satya Nadella....Same **** different *******. | Sep 26 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | There is no new Microsoft. Only new tactics. Only new lies. | Sep 26 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | I think that new tactic is mostly this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie | Sep 26 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Big lie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 26 23:32 | |
| DaemonFC | [–] klobos 4 points (+4|-0) 5 days ago | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Made with Chinese parts, but not a 100% Chinese company. | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | permalink parent save source reply report spam | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | [–] Broc_Lia 3 points (+4|-1) 5 days ago | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | What's the difference? The company you're buying from is effectively a reseller. | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | True, which means if there is some obscured malware or backdoors in the hardware, it doesn't matter if you're using a computer from Dell or Lenovo if it has the same part from China in it. And the Chinese have been caught doing things like putting backdoors in network equipment that the US federal government purchased and used. No telling what they got away with, but the American government is still too stupid to demand firmware that it can | Sep 26 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | audit on imported equipment. | Sep 26 23:33 |
| MinceR | at least the one from dHell will quickly fall to bits and dHell will refuse to fix it under warranty | Sep 26 23:34 |
| MinceR | then you get to try your luck again | Sep 26 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | 126 upvotes, 2 downvotes (98.44% upvoted it) | Sep 26 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | On the VOAT story about the Linux lockout by Lenovo. | Sep 26 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | So the anti-Linux trolls in VOAT are about 1.56% of users compared with about 20% on Reddit. | Sep 26 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | So the anti-Linux trolls in VOAT are about 1.56% of users compared with about 20% on Reddit. | Sep 26 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Sep 26 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | I turned it into a post on that article. | Sep 26 23:37 |
| MinceR | strange for a .net site | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | 126 upvotes, 2 downvotes (98.44% upvoted it) | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | So the anti-Linux trolls in VOAT are about 1.56% of users compared with about 20% on Reddit. | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | The mods on Reddit ended up shutting down my posts and deleting them, after flagging them "misleading". From what they said in their sticky comment, they were too incompetent to understand what I was even saying. | Sep 26 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, VOAT protects people from sockpuppet accounts. | Sep 26 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | You have to get 100 upvotes on your comments and submissions before you can downvote anything. | Sep 26 23:39 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 26 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, if you're trying to vote with fifty new sockpuppet acccounts like poeple to on Reddit, that doesn't scale. :) | Sep 26 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | *do | Sep 26 23:39 |
| MinceR | shouldn't be difficult to game groupthink on the long run though | Sep 26 23:40 |
| MinceR | especially as the garbage people flood new sites after they've ruined the old ones | Sep 26 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | [–] 3dk 2 points (+2|-0) 5 days ago (edited 5 days ago) | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | According to Reddit user /u/bownairo, it's possible, but very difficult to install Linux on the Lenovos: | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | I had to construct some custom "clips" as the bios chip is a WSON package. All of this was done with the chip in place and the battery removed. I dumped the bios continuously until I was able to get a few dumps with the same sha. Then I had the bios modified. I flashed my chip to all null values, rewrote my custom image, and dumped it back to insure it wrote correctly. This allowed access to the advanced tab so I could change the controller | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | to AHCI from RAID, allowing it to be recognized by installers. | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even know what most of this means though. I hope Lenovo and M$ gets their asses kicked for trying to pull off their anti-consumer bullshit. | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | permalink save source reply report spam | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | [–] BaronHK 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | He had to go through all of that because Lenovo's BIOS checks to see if an update is signed by them in a manner similar to Microsoft Authenticode, before it will agree to update. | Sep 26 23:41 |
| MinceR | has anyone tried to meddle with the pci ids Linux uses to identify the SSD? | Sep 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It seems that the people who left Reddit for VOAT had some good reasons. | Sep 26 23:41 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/3N7BLXh | Sep 26 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[Windows Store] All 5 star ratings show only slightly more than 4 stars - Imgur | Sep 26 23:42 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The only way to get the PCI information is if you can start it in AHCI mode and grab it that way. | Sep 26 23:42 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 26 23:42 |
| MinceR | but the others will follow once reddit starts dying | Sep 26 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | There's only one ISK2 that can do that. The one that the guy hardware modded. | Sep 26 23:42 |
| MinceR | can't you just boot a live distro and lspci? | Sep 26 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No. | Sep 26 23:42 |
| MinceR | why? | Sep 26 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | It can't even see that the device exists. | Sep 26 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | You have to boot in AHCI mode somehow. | Sep 26 23:43 |
| MinceR | that's seriously fucked up | Sep 26 23:45 |
| MinceR | how does Backdoors10 find out about the device? | Sep 26 23:45 |
| razielle_tzu | slipstreamed driver | Sep 26 23:45 |
| MinceR | i mean, on the hardware side | Sep 26 23:46 |
| MinceR | how does that driver know the device is there? | Sep 26 23:46 |
| razielle_tzu | that i'm not sure about | Sep 26 23:46 |
| MinceR | maybe Linux could be hacked to just assume the device is there | Sep 26 23:46 |
| MinceR | and start talking to it | Sep 26 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.businessinsider.com/r-bangladesh-bank-exposed-to-hackers-by-cheap-switches-no-firewall-police-2016-4 | Sep 26 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Bangladesh Bank exposed to hackers by cheap switches, no firewall: Police - Business Insider | Sep 26 23:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It has the Intel RST driver for Windows. | Sep 26 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | The Windows Boot Manager loads Windows, which grabs the driver, and proceeds to boot. | Sep 26 23:57 |
| MinceR | that still doesn't answer the main question | Sep 26 23:57 |
| MinceR | how does that driver know the device is there? | Sep 26 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | How does the Windows bootloader see the drive? | Sep 26 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | The same reason GRUB could see it and load Linux if our theoretical Linux patch was able to reset the drive to AHCI on each boot. | Sep 26 23:58 |
| MinceR | the winblows bootloader probably just uses uefi | Sep 26 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | GRUB uses uEFI to access the disk same as Windows Boot Manager. | Sep 26 23:58 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 26 23:59 |
| MinceR | but winblows doesn't, does it? | Sep 26 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | The Windows startup procedure has a disk image with the Windows kernel and the Intel RST driver in it. | Sep 27 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as WBM starts that, Windows is aware of the SSD. | Sep 27 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, But the startup procedure is like that to make Windows boot faster. | Sep 27 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | So if you could toggle it into AHCI mode, you'd crash with a BSoD at this point. | Sep 27 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | Probably before you could log in. | Sep 27 00:01 |
| MinceR | still, the intel RST driver somehow communicates with the SSD | Sep 27 00:02 |
| MinceR | garrett claimed something like they only changed the id to keep m$'s driver from picking it up | Sep 27 00:02 |
| MinceR | so it should be possible to talk to it | Sep 27 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | And there's nothing in Linux to bind to the SSD beccause it is unaware of this. | Sep 27 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Garrett says that even though Linux supports RST it can't drive the block device in RAID mode. | Sep 27 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm thinking there's something missing here that's a lot more than PCI IDs. | Sep 27 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | He seemed to agree with me that the best solution is having the kernel reset the controller in AHCI mode at evey boot if that's possible. | Sep 27 00:04 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 27 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Wikipedia is getting as bad as Reddit. | Sep 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | You cite reliable sources and then a few hours later someone comes and finds a technicality and instead of fixing it, they remove the whole thing. | Sep 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | So I come back and fix what they complain about. They always argue the Wikipedia policies. | Sep 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | I fix it up just enough that it complies with the policies. | Sep 27 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Then once they can't find a reason to delete it anymore, that version usually sticks. | Sep 27 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, bbiab. Gotta run down and get something for dinner. | Sep 27 00:09 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 00:13 | |
| *arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 27 00:18 | |
| *arossdotme (~zxy@host-92-26-242-57.as13285.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 00:25 | |
| schestowitz | #lenovo announces layoffs. I guess the whole #gnu #linux backlash will harm their servers sales ($) severely and they know it. #microsoft | Sep 27 00:29 |
| MinceR | if they knew it, why did they do it? | Sep 27 00:30 |
| razielle_tzu | aren't most of hte layoffs in the motorola divisions though? | Sep 27 00:30 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 00:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526187869118464 | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/AJGY5wQFLy | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780526188863168512 | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/uE9HhELa8Y | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780531273353822208 | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3 Awesome Themes For Plank, The Linux Dock App | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jl5DZEhfPG (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 27 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | 3 Awesome Themes For Plank, The Linux Dock App - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 27 00:37 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-lays-off-thousand-people-718442/ | Sep 27 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Motorola, Lenovo lay off over a thousand more people - Android Authority | Sep 27 00:44 | |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 27 00:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see above | Sep 27 00:48 |
| schestowitz | my wife told me an hour ago | Sep 27 00:48 |
| schestowitz | I guess there's a chance of correlation | Sep 27 00:49 |
| schestowitz | at least timing-wise | Sep 27 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Their smartphone division has been in trouble for a long time. | Sep 27 00:49 |
| schestowitz | there might be layoffs coming in other divisions | Sep 27 00:50 |
| schestowitz | give it time | Sep 27 00:50 |
| schestowitz | their invoices/orders for servers must have already taken a tumble | Sep 27 00:50 |
| razielle_tzu | seems that way although they seem to be deflecting to the phone division from what i've read | Sep 27 00:51 |
| *tyreld has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 00:52 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 27 00:59 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/54nrkw/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 27 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. : Lenovo [ http://ur1.ca/psvmi ] | Sep 27 01:00 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ouch | Sep 27 01:01 |
| schestowitz | what will you tell your city? ;-) | Sep 27 01:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jfleit/status/780557826724810752 | Sep 27 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jfleit: Well, that's one way to show up to #debatenight https://t.co/OZnFFXDKFk | Sep 27 01:03 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/54nryz/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 27 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: " In 2012, Stein and her running mate were arrested outside Hofstra University" https://t.co/GsjSVJyJwN cuffed to a chair for 8 hours | Sep 27 01:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : technology [ http://ur1.ca/psvmu ] | Sep 27 01:03 | |
| schestowitz | do the comments mention the linux dbacle? | Sep 27 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Trying to x-post this to all relevant subreddits. | Sep 27 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Get some exposure. Make people consider what smartphone they want to buy. If the company will be around to support it well enough. | Sep 27 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | It only lets you do 2 x-posts every 10 minutes. | Sep 27 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | So I have to wait 5 before I post it in Android. | Sep 27 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Could you link to this on TuxMachines. | Sep 27 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Keeps Lenovo in the news. Let's people know wht's going on. | Sep 27 01:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780551816060821504 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft, Lenovo Accused Of Blocking Linux On Signature | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition PCs https://t.co/fo7d1fwWEW (techfrag.com) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techfrag.com | Lenovo Accused Of Blocking Linux On Signature Edition PCs | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780559410104074240 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.3 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'security things in Linux v4.3' | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780559484963921924 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.3 https://t.co/eQPg4BmjRz | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.3 « codeblog | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560084476637184 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Important Bug Fixes https://t.co/7Aly2H5yZ0 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8 with Important Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560085835665408 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updated Drivers https://t.co/8O2M8AdTgr | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4 Improvements, Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560088461217792 | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top Web Browsers for Linux https://t.co/HCTszEbFky | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top Web Browsers for Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:10 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/54ntdw/lenovo_lays_off_about_1100_employees_and_chicago/ | Sep 27 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo lays off about 1,100 employees, and Chicago is apparently taking most of the hit. x-post from /r/lenovo : Android | Sep 27 01:11 | |
| DaemonFC | There we go. In /r/android now. | Sep 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560089555963905 | Sep 27 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest | Sep 27 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSSL Vulnerabilities https://t.co/sNTS65Om9v | Sep 27 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall OS Patched Against the Latest OpenSSL Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560090969452545 | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the GNOME 3.22 Desktop https://t.co/ptvL7vUF2Z | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 "Nev" Is in the Works, to Ship with the GNOME 3.22 Desktop | Tux Machines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560146476990464 | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This is what the Chromecast Ultra will look like | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fdE8Ns4jyX (www.androidauthority.com) | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | This is what the Chromecast Ultra will look like - Android Authority | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780560505643667456 | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Roku Express, Roku Premiere, and Roku Ultra announced, | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | starting at $29.99 https://t.co/Do2v3YiAno | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 27 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Roku Express, Roku Premiere, and Roku Ultra announced, starting at $29.99 | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tor Project Releases Tor (The Onion Router) 0.2.8.8...' | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.22 LTS Brings ARM and EXT4...' | Sep 27 01:14 | |
| MinceR | 27 021149 < DaemonFC> There we go. In /r/android now. | Sep 27 01:14 |
| MinceR | already [removed] | Sep 27 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Works for me. | Sep 27 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Someone even voted it up. | Sep 27 01:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, i did | Sep 27 01:16 |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Sep 27 10:29 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 10:29:24 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 10:29:47 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 27 10:29 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 27 10:29 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 27 10:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'The Linux State Of AMD's Zen x86 Memory...' | Sep 27 10:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780700184414130176 | Sep 27 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | XOrg's GLAMOR 2D Performance Continues To Be Tuned | Sep 27 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uKVSLeinfR (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 27 10:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-X.Org's GLAMOR 2D Performance Continues To Be Tuned - Phoronix | Sep 27 10:30 | |
| Tervy | not sure if this has been posted yet or if the site is trustworthy but .. https://techraptor.net/content/youtube-changes-youtube-heroes-video-stealthily any opinions from this (i might be late for these news) | Sep 27 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techraptor.net | YouTube Changes YouTube Heroes Video Stealthily - TechRaptor | Sep 27 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780701171371667456 | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 26 Linux OS to Ship with OpenSSL 1.1.0 by Default | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Better Security https://t.co/HKL0FB0FbG | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 26 Linux OS to Ship with OpenSSL 1.1.0 by Default for Better Security | Sep 27 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780702644977471488 | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 6 open source fitness apps for Android | Sep 27 10:37 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: true... | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BvzZote5rD (opensource.com) "all licensed | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | under the GPLv3" | Sep 27 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 open source fitness apps for Android | Opensource.com | Sep 27 10:37 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: now they mix chromos with android, reportedly | Sep 27 10:37 |
| schestowitz | they call it "andromeda | Sep 27 10:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TrainWithPj favourited '6 open source fitness apps for Android ...' | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780703521784168448 | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Aaeon’s Linux-friendly “EMB-Q170C” Mini-ITX board..." | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NsBt1Nn7aV (hackerboards.com) | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | NAS-targeted Skylake Mini-ITX loads up on SATA, GbE, PCIe | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780703810595553280 | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | design https://t.co/i93ZhzJNJD (hackerboards.com) | Sep 27 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open design | Sep 27 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780705314698104832 | Sep 27 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 https://t.co/186yrssEcn | Sep 27 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (nwrickert2.wordpress.com) | Sep 27 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 10:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 26 Linux OS to Ship with OpenSSL...' | Sep 27 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nwrickert2.wordpress.com | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 | Thoughts on computing | Sep 27 10:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780705967021449216 | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0 https://t.co/6Uxq3X9h6L | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (distrowatch.com) | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719962151276544 | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/8JsLDpudAn | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719963254300673 | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | design https://t.co/nBC1b1sefz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BeagleBone Black Wireless SBC taps Octavo SiP, has open design | Tux Machines | Sep 27 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719964239958017 | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unimpressive Yakkety Yak, Plasma 5 Issues in Leap | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JueBnAc6Nz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unimpressive Yakkety Yak, Plasma 5 Issues in Leap | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719965259206657 | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tEqFCbuAMu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 Beta2 | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780719966358077442 | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0 https://t.co/81tMXuT5uY | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0 | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:18 | |
| cubexyz | a 4+ hour 720p video doesn't fit on a DVD | Sep 27 12:38 |
| cubexyz | not too surprising really | Sep 27 12:39 |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:44 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 27 12:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736447577935872 | Sep 27 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GE, Bosch and open source could bring more IoT tools | Sep 27 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Jx1yr4E79d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GE, Bosch and open source could bring more IoT tools | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736449389801472 | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Red Hat is making money on the public cloud with a | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | hybrid approach https://t.co/0VH2CKRkvH | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Red Hat is making money on the public cloud with a hybrid approach | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736450656477186 | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone https://t.co/1KLivnLUJE | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736452313223168 | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A quick introduction to Audacity for teachers | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SJFEQVPGAS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A quick introduction to Audacity for teachers | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780736453428948992 | Sep 27 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LLVM News https://t.co/1p7lKemkvx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 12:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM News | Tux Machines | Sep 27 12:57 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 12:59 | |
| *sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 13:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780738186158956544 | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 27/9/2016: Lenovo Layoffs, OPNFV Third Software | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release https://t.co/k8vmmHz2zE (techrights.org) | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/9/2016: Lenovo Layoffs, OPNFV Third Software Release | Techrights | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780740260628144128 | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 25 Alpha and processing. https://t.co/QgkusVx908 | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (catalin-festila.blogspot.com) | Sep 27 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-catalin-festila.blogspot.com | About me and my life ...: Fedora 25 Alpha and processing. | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| *amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp118-210-90-189.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:06 | |
| *sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 13:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/780740268844847104 | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 27/9/2016: Lenovo Layoffs, OPNFV Third Software | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Release https://t.co/k8vmmHz2zE (techrights.org) | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780740547346563072 | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chrome for Android will let you download entire web pages | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and use less data for video https://t.co/3uplMG9xqN | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Chrome for Android will let you download entire web pages and use less data for video - The Verge | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780740773637750784 | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BlackBerry's Unannounced DTEK60 Android Smartphone | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Surfaced In FCC Filing https://t.co/Af8nREWwEI | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.ibtimes.com) | Sep 27 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | BlackBerry's Unannounced DTEK60 Android Smartphone Surfaced In FCC Filing | Sep 27 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/grautone/status/780748865217495040 | Sep 27 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@grautone: @schestowitz because Libs & Greens lack the 15% of vote to be considered legitimate contenders. | Sep 27 13:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/780754480035991552 | Sep 27 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz @SiliconANGLE what a pile of bs. With Hadoop, Spark etc open source is doing great. Maybe it's just hard to keep up? | Sep 27 14:05 | |
| *arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:08 | |
| *arossdotme (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:17 | |
| *arossdotme-planb has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Sep 27 14:18 | |
| *daemol (~daemol@117.196.154.1) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 14:34 | |
| *arossdotme has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 14:49 | |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:07 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Sep 27 16:08 |
| schestowitz | hi | Sep 27 16:11 |
| MinceR | http://boingboing.net/2016/09/26/demand-that-hp-make-amends-for.html | Sep 27 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Demand that HP make amends for its self-destructing printers [SIGN AND SHARE!] / Boing Boing | Sep 27 16:13 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | schestowitzr razielle_tzu MinceR my Tizen R 1 has come | Sep 27 16:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Z 1 | Sep 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | 27 113749 < schestowitz> they call it "andromeda | Sep 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | the andromeda strain? :> | Sep 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | SebthreeBQM10HD: my condolences | Sep 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | won't be nice when your calls get dropped because of systemd or kdbus :> | Sep 27 16:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | MinceR, they use system d ? | Sep 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | afaik tizen uses both | Sep 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | probably pulseaudio too | Sep 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | but if it gives you a shell, you can probably find out | Sep 27 16:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | uhmm most distors use pulse audio | Sep 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | and so they all get the problems with it | Sep 27 16:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | system d work fine or me on things I ussed it | Sep 27 16:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and pus audio has been fine since some itme after 2008 or mostly | Sep 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's what some of them say | Sep 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | others explain the weird ways it fucks up things | Sep 27 16:16 |
| cubexyz | I got a room full of non-pulseaudio machines :) | Sep 27 16:16 |
| cubexyz | get that Sun working and you'll have one too | Sep 27 16:18 |
| cubexyz | did you know that netconfig will clobber /etc/hosts? Very annoying | Sep 27 16:20 |
| cubexyz | overwrote /etc/resolv.conf also | Sep 27 16:22 |
| *tyreld (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 16:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Libby_Weed/status/780787188157984768 | Sep 27 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Libby_Weed: @schestowitz @wikileaks Jill Stein is a better option | Sep 27 16:27 | |
| cubexyz | learned a bit about dhcpcd today | Sep 27 17:00 |
| cubexyz | DHCP client daemon | Sep 27 17:00 |
| cubexyz | not actually sure how quasijarus does it | Sep 27 17:05 |
| cubexyz | on FC1 it's different also... it uses dhclient | Sep 27 17:14 |
| cubexyz | old(ish) openbsd is the same | Sep 27 17:15 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/XQ0Xy | Sep 27 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best tweet so far of this debate night - Album on Imgur | Sep 27 17:17 | |
| XRevan86 | debate night? | Sep 27 17:18 |
| cubexyz | :) | Sep 27 17:19 |
| MinceR | the candidates of the two arms of the Megacorporate Party debated yesterday, i think | Sep 27 17:19 |
| XRevan86 | But there are four candidates. | Sep 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | probably more | Sep 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | but those are not from the Megacorporate Party | Sep 27 17:20 |
| cubexyz | so just trump and clinton and no one else? | Sep 27 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016 | Sep 27 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United States presidential election, 2016 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 27 17:20 | |
| XRevan86 | five* | Sep 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 27 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | six* | Sep 27 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | overlooked the sixth | Sep 27 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | Is that even legal? Making presidential debates but exclusive? | Sep 27 17:21 |
| cubexyz | I think it goes all the way back to Nixon vs Kennedy | Sep 27 17:22 |
| cubexyz | if I recall correctly | Sep 27 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Democracy, is in fact, FAKE/Democracy, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, FAKE plus Democracy. | Sep 27 17:27 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 17:31 | |
| *Disconnected (Connection timed out). | Sep 27 17:50 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 17:50:03 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 17:50:27 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 27 17:50 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 27 17:50 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 27 17:50 | |
| *tyreld (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:50 | |
| *razielle_tzu_ is now known as raziel_tzu | Sep 27 17:50 | |
| *balrog_ is now known as balrog | Sep 27 17:51 | |
| *schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | [17:41] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/robinforsenator/status/780806272350388224 | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:47] <cubexyz> ah now it's clearer... dhcp didn't arrive until 1993 | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:47] <cubexyz> so 4.3BSD would have been pre-dhcp era | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | [17:49] <r_schestowitz> test | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | DDOS again, I guess | Sep 27 17:52 |
| r_schestowitz | so better not say anything till it's over | Sep 27 17:52 |
| *sheepbat (~lev3k@149.255.33.155) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| *schestowitz_log has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| *schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| *gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:54 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 17:56 | |
| *Firre (~Firee@a91-156-174-20.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:10 | |
| *acer-box______ (~acer-box@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:10 | |
| *acer-box______ has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 18:10 | |
| *acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:10 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 18:11:04 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 18:11:31 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *amarsh04__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *r_schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-253-216.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *raziel_tzu has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *tyreld has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 18:11 | |
| *Firre is now known as Firee | Sep 27 18:12 | |
| *schestowitz_log (~schestowi@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:12 | |
| *tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:12 | |
| *daemol has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 18:12 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:14 | |
| *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@mail.copilotco.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Sep 27 18:14 |
| *knttl has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:21 | |
| *cmdshftn_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:21 | |
| *dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:21 | |
| *Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:21 | |
| *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | Sep 27 18:22 | |
| *tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 18:22 | |
| *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 18:22 | |
| *gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:22 | |
| *cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:23 | |
| *tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:23 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780809722962337792 | Sep 27 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/eBQjQRm6Dj | Sep 27 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 18:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 27 18:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/eBQjQRm6Dj' | Sep 27 18:25 | |
| *knttl (~knttl@dyndsl-037-138-253-216.ewe-ip-backbone.de) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:28 | |
| *Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| *schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| *XFaCE (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| *r_schestowitz (~roy@host81-152-178-210.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| *r_schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| *r_schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:32 | |
| *sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 18:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | still ddos... | Sep 27 18:33 |
| *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 18:33 | |
| *gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:34 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/26/video-claiming-drilling-into-iphone-7-reveal-hidden-headphone-port-goes-viral | Sep 27 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Video claiming drilling into iPhone 7 will reveal hidden headphone port goes viral | Technology | The Guardian | Sep 27 18:37 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: ^ | Sep 27 18:37 |
| *sheepbat (~lev3k@149.255.33.155) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 18:38 | |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 27 18:40 |
| r_schestowitz | old: | Sep 27 18:41 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.gnupg.org/faq/gnupg-faq.html#please_use_ecc | Sep 27 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnupg.org | GnuPG Frequently Asked Questions | Sep 27 18:41 | |
| *Emchan has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 19:01 | |
| *razielle_tzu (~quassel@46.101.20.223) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:01 | |
| *razielle_tzu is now known as Guest39926 | Sep 27 19:01 | |
| *Guest39926 is now known as raziel_tzu | Sep 27 19:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: I think you gave me a link about it before | Sep 27 19:10 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 27 19:10 |
| *Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 19:10 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 19:10 | |
| *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). | Sep 27 19:10 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 19:10:39 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 19:13:13 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 27 19:13 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 27 19:13 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 27 19:13 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780830419096920064 | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu’s OpenStack on IBM’s Big Iron | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JQoM3L2dR0 (windowsitpro.com) | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | Ubuntu’s OpenStack on IBM’s Big Iron | Cloud content from Windows IT Pro | Sep 27 19:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780831848310181889 | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unsafe at any clock speed: Linux kernel security needs a | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rethink https://t.co/6iW9nsdYcy (arstechnica.co.uk) | Sep 27 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Unsafe at any clock speed: Linux kernel security needs a rethink | Ars Technica UK | Sep 27 19:16 | |
| *Researcher-- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 19:21 | |
| *Researcher- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 19:21 | |
| *Researcher-- is now known as Researcher- | Sep 27 19:21 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DeadlinesDirect/status/780821673213779968 | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780833432670707712 | Sep 27 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DeadlinesDirect: #Finland makes a push for military intel meta data laws, looks like European trend 2day?! #Switzerland #nsa #privacy https://t.co/kpcivqPmTT | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone https://t.co/B2cISEj8pt | Sep 27 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Military pressing for broader surveillance mandate https://t.co/JKjAc10REj will finland use #russia and #putin to sell this? | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent Apps Hits 1.1 Milestone | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780833635029118977 | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 24 -- The Best Distro for DevOps? | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7MdEfbF9PO (www.linux.com) | Sep 27 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 -- The Best Distro for DevOps? | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 27 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780834185472724993 | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Open Source Hardware for Surveillance of Things | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WVpZCZZA6B (www.linux.com) | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux and Open Source Hardware for IoT | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 27 19:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780835342245097475 | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘revolution’ https://t.co/wsDXqrK3Ar | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Sep 27 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio ‘revolution’ • The Register | Sep 27 19:25 | |
| MinceR | The Best Distro For Buzzword(tm)! | Sep 27 19:28 |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 19:29 | |
| *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). | Sep 27 19:29 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 19:29:39 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 19:30:05 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 27 19:30 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 27 19:30 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 27 19:30 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/WyGFMNi.gifv | Sep 27 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Sep 27 19:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE's Kirigami UI Framework for Mobile and Convergent...' | Sep 27 19:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780836788663414784 | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Farabel', a turn based strategy game is officially | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | coming to Linux after a days work https://t.co/u5knZtHwGK | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 27 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/farabel-a-turn-based-strategy-game-is-officially-coming-to-linux-after-a-days-work.8184 ) | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780837012836323330 | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | -The Talos Principle now renders correctly in 'radv', the | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source AMD Vulkan driver https://t.co/brD5zjmCr8 | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 27 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-talos-principle-now-renders-correctly-in-radv-the-open-source-amd-vulkan-driver.8186 ) | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780837650475417600 | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | There Are Around 2,000 Steam Linux Games Available | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NHrizuACTC (www.phoronix.com) S2,500? | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hp89IDGhYD (error) | Sep 27 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-There Are Around 2,000 Steam Linux Games Available - Phoronix | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/steam-now-has-above-2500-linux-steamos-games-available.8188 ) | Sep 27 19:43 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/g7msfQB.png | Sep 27 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840317595553792 | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proxmox VE 4.3 released https://t.co/bV5C5PDqkP | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.proxmox.com) | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proxmox VE 4.3 released | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840821629284352 | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Free Today: September Issue of Linux Journal (Retail | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | value: $5.99) https://t.co/J1pABA6unB | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Free Today: September Issue of Linux Journal (Retail value: $5.99) | Linux Journal | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840972993253376 | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | nginx https://t.co/Sjxy3xVrya (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | nginx | Tux Machines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840974020784128 | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ‘revolution’ https://t.co/HLY3VT6Jqz | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ofcom blesses Linux-powered, open source DIY radio ‘revolution’ | Tux Machines | Sep 27 19:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: context? | Sep 27 19:46 |
| MinceR | there's not much of it | Sep 27 19:47 |
| MinceR | it's a navigation thing between pages of some website | Sep 27 19:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840975664943104 | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/3HRIbyFJ6A | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840976696811520 | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/S5PZxFf2qD | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/780840977984425985 | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proxmox VE 4.3 released https://t.co/qTWu617pDe | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 27 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE 4.3 released | Tux Machines | Sep 27 20:12 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/jlA04Zn | Sep 27 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yes I'd like 0 of your finest cases. - Imgur | Sep 27 20:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nebrgenius/status/780847676690567168 | Sep 27 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nebrgenius: Me. https://t.co/dV9Grb3rgj | Sep 27 20:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks Missing options; who was impressed by neither? | Sep 27 20:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: cheers | Sep 27 20:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 27 20:22 |
| *cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:27 | |
| *cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:27 | |
| *Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:27 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:30 | |
| *localh0st has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 20:34 | |
| *localh0st (~lclhst@s5.linuxpl.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:35 | |
| *Valfor has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 20:35 | |
| *cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/QI79z | Sep 27 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It takes a great comedian to make a well-crafted accurate science joke. - Album on Imgur | Sep 27 20:36 | |
| *cubexyz has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:36 | |
| *cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:36 | |
| *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:36 | |
| *Valfor (~Valfor@107.170.171.17) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:37 | |
| *Valfor has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 20:37 | |
| *Valfor (~Valfor@unaffiliated/mrpps) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:37 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This should be obvious. | Sep 27 20:40 |
| *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 20:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DeadSuperHero/status/780854756528926720 | Sep 27 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DeadSuperHero: @schestowitz Doug Stanhope is a god in human form. | Sep 27 20:42 | |
| *MinceR (~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:42 | |
| *dipper_s_ (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:43 | |
| *dipper_sauce has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 27 20:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/DeadSuperHero/status/780854756528926720 | Sep 27 20:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 27 20:44 |
| *cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:44 | |
| *Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 20:45 | |
| *cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:45 | |
| *Valfor has quit (Excess Flood) | Sep 27 20:45 | |
| *Valfor (~Valfor@107.170.171.17) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| *Valfor has quit (Changing host) | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| *Valfor (~Valfor@unaffiliated/mrpps) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| *dipper_s_ has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 27 20:46 | |
| MinceR | http://p.coldline.hu/2016/09/27/2339849-20160927-phbXpP.png | Sep 27 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'p.coldline.hu' ( status 0 @ http://p.coldline.hu/2016/09/27/2339849-20160927-phbXpP.png ) | Sep 27 20:47 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 20:48 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/1mJuStSay1nG/status/780859803509858304 | Sep 27 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@1mJuStSay1nG: @schestowitz @rozmcdermott Next it's the SYD (The Screw You Deal) | Sep 27 21:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/780859999241248768 | Sep 27 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @ArsTechnicaUK @GlynnMoody too bad you did not mention Stjerna paper. And Council meeting in 2 days. | Sep 27 21:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | You mean Glyn, right? As I did mention the paper twice... | Sep 27 21:02 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: good one | Sep 27 21:04 |
| *raziel_tzu is now known as razielle_tzu | Sep 27 21:04 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:16 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/wMzYsfE.gifv | Sep 27 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Sep 27 21:21 | |
| *ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | Sep 27 21:22 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| *Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| *cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo forum mods | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | from mardward2015 sent 12 hours ago | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | I think there is definitely a Microsoft / Lenovo conspiracy. One of the mods who are removing and editing unwanted posts on Lenovo forum ( username - Bugbatter ) has a MVP logo sign next to his name - Microsoft Most Valued Professional. From a MS official site: " the Microsoft MVP Award is our way of saying Thanks! to outstanding community leaders" , " They also have a very close relationship with | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | the local Microsoft teams in their area, who are there to support and empower MVPs to address needs and opportunities in the local ecosystem." etc. Basically a Microsoft shill | Sep 27 21:23 |
| *ohama (ohama@cicolina.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:23 | |
| DaemonFC | re: Lenovo forum mods | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | to mardward2015 sent just now | Sep 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, I pointed that out a few times. I don't believe that any of the mods on LOL NO VO's forums are actually "volunteers". The way they act makes it seem unlikely. | Sep 27 21:23 |
| *cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:24 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:26 | |
| *cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 21:33 | |
| *Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:33 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:33 | |
| *cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:34 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:36 | |
| *sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 21:39 | |
| *sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:39 | |
| *sag3 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 27 21:45 | |
| *cmdshftn has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:46 | |
| *Lirion has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 27 21:46 | |
| *cmdshftn (cmdshftn@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe84:703f) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:46 | |
| *sag3 (~O@91.214.169.69) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:47 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/gLl5pnF | Sep 27 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thanks Cisco (CCP) - Imgur | Sep 27 21:48 | |
| *Lirion (~m00se@wikimedia-commons/Lirion) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 21:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 27 22:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 22:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | hhmmm... daemonfc left | Sep 27 22:27 |
| r_schestowitz | so quickly | Sep 27 22:27 |
| razielle_tzu | was a ping out | Sep 27 22:29 |
| r_schestowitz | hhmmm. | Sep 27 22:30 |
| r_schestowitz | I wanted to give him some new info | Sep 27 22:30 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/780873564132143104 | Sep 27 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Legal loopholes and wormholes will always be manipulated to favour mega buck multinationals over scientists & innovators | Sep 27 22:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/780873947810263040 | Sep 27 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz TPPA, TTIP, TISA & other toxic trade pacts are designed to deregulate & use copyright to enable global monopolies, oligopolies | Sep 27 22:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/harrjd/status/780874181722406912 | Sep 27 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@harrjd: @schestowitz you think his days are now numbered ref:500 mil yahoo acct | Sep 27 22:31 | |
| r_schestowitz | Stamos | Sep 27 22:31 |
| razielle_tzu | daemon will probbaly check logs when he comes back | Sep 27 22:32 |
| r_schestowitz | he has no passive bot for logging | Sep 27 22:32 |
| r_schestowitz | and I don't publish logs for a while... will do soon, I hope, because I don't want to help the EPO spy on people | Sep 27 22:33 |
| razielle_tzu | ah | Sep 27 22:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Researcher- might be a spy | Sep 27 22:33 |
| r_schestowitz | never replies to anything, stalks all channels | Sep 27 22:33 |
| r_schestowitz | even evaded a ban I once put on it (it's a bot) | Sep 27 22:33 |
| razielle_tzu | huh | Sep 27 22:34 |
| razielle_tzu | i'd fill him in but i'm not always online even though my core is always connected | Sep 27 22:34 |
| *tst_ (6d4e2761@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.78.39.97) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 22:50 | |
| tst_ | help | Sep 27 22:50 |
| razielle_tzu | with? bear in mind we're not a help channel | Sep 27 22:51 |
| *tst_ has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 27 22:51 | |
| *razielle_tzu shrugs | Sep 27 22:51 | |
| XRevan86 | That's kinda scary. | Sep 27 22:51 |
| XRevan86 | but mostly shruggish | Sep 27 22:52 |
| MinceR | http://cdn77.eatliver.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/stool-bus.jpg | Sep 27 22:53 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/mpug6 | Sep 27 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Netflix and Array - Album on Imgur | Sep 27 23:08 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/bSdbfrt | Sep 27 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When you snooze an alarm... - Imgur | Sep 27 23:19 | |
| *localh0st has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 23:38 | |
| *localh0st (~lclhst@s5.linuxpl.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 23:38 | |
| *XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 27 23:50 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 23:51 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/bRQ77uB.gifv | Sep 27 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | NO TITLE | Sep 27 23:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mmasnick/status/780888485976641538 | Sep 27 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mmasnick: @schestowitz we've used cloudflare for years. helped us stop a DoS attack a few years ago. | Sep 27 23:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | good to know, I didn't know there was a ddos attack | Sep 27 23:57 |
| *arossdotme (~zxy@host-84-13-235-242.opaltelecom.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 27 23:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/XxMikey4PxX/status/780898003511107584 | Sep 27 23:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@XxMikey4PxX: @schestowitz @wikileaks Clinton takes credit for putting together the coalition. If you cannot blame leadership, who can you blame? | Sep 27 23:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | [22:50] <tst_> help | Sep 27 23:57 |
| r_schestowitz | [22:51] <razielle_tzu> with? bear in mind we're not a help channel | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | [22:51] <-- tst_ (6d4e2761@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.78.39.97) has left this server (Client Quit). | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | razielle_tzu: wong answer | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | now he'll commit suicide | Sep 27 23:58 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 27 23:58 |
| razielle_tzu | but it's true | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | yeah, I'm just pulling your leg | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | I cannot imagine going into a channel just to say "help", then leave | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe he needed the manual | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | man man | Sep 27 23:58 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 27 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | he typed help | Sep 27 23:59 |
| r_schestowitz | and it didn't give him command glossary | Sep 27 23:59 |
| razielle_tzu | but help commands require a . or something in front of them if there's a bot in channel | Sep 28 00:00 |
| *razielle_tzu opens a bottle of hobgoblin | Sep 28 00:05 | |
| *XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Sep 28 00:08 | |
| razielle_tzu | r_schestowitz: the twitter bot is down in here now | Sep 28 00:21 |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 00:23 | |
| r_schestowitz | oh dear, I guess it is | Sep 28 00:30 |
| *vallor_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 28 00:30 | |
| r_schestowitz | no updare since 8 | Sep 28 00:30 |
| *vallor (Ponzo@pdpc/supporter/monthlygold/vallor) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 00:31 | |
| *vallor has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 28 00:31 | |
| *vallor (Ponzo@pdpc/supporter/monthlygold/vallor) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 00:32 | |
| razielle_tzu | sounds about right | Sep 28 00:35 |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Sep 28 09:29 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 28 09:29:15 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 28 09:29:39 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 28 09:29 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 28 09:29 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 28 09:29 | |
| DaemonFC | In reply to Jan Wildeboer | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer @ZomgPinkPonies 20m20 minutes ago | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | @jwildeboer You can come over to my house and try to install Linux on my Lenovo and prove it isn't blocked. | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | In reply to OMG! UBUNTU! | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer @ZomgPinkPonies 18m18 minutes ago | Sep 28 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | @omgubuntu You can come over and take a look at my BIOS setup screen and try to install Ubuntu on my laptop if you believe Lenovo. | Sep 28 09:31 |
| r_schestowitz | [09:31] <DaemonFC> In reply to OMG! UBUNTU! | Sep 28 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | The mono fans (back in the days) | Sep 28 09:32 |
| r_schestowitz | Now it's an MS product | Sep 28 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781038970654322688 | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | September 30, 2016 https://t.co/5ve3rInIFL | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of Life on September 30, 2016 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781039173872578560 | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta Officially Released with Linux | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.8, Download Now https://t.co/p54vtBhRRk | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta Officially Released with Linux Kernel 4.8, Download Now | Sep 28 09:52 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Yeah. They haven't banned me from Lenovo's Facebook page yet. | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781053864967561217 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stylish Markdown Editor ‘Typora’ Is Now Available for | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu https://t.co/WNZhEG9rM8 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Stylish Markdown Editor 'Typora' Is Now Available for Ubuntu - OMG! Ubuntu! | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| DaemonFC | Getting a lot of Likes on there. :) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055604253089792 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/p9pukfhE0a | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055605259636736 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xvOTNuHuXu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055606350196737 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps https://t.co/TXqj55HYPz | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055607629492224 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source tools can help small businesses cut costs and | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | save time https://t.co/fLcDKFEOEt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source tools can help small businesses cut costs and save time | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055608841572353 | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Users v Windows Users, Debian Mourns Another | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1tBT0sBBDj (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 09:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Users v Windows Users, Debian Mourns Another | Tux Machines | Sep 28 09:59 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: good | Sep 28 10:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @julienbarbier42 favourited 'Stylish Markdown Editor ‘Typora’ Is Now Available for...' | Sep 28 10:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781055860059541504 | Sep 28 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Project mourns the loss of Kristoffer H. Rose | Sep 28 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DrBVOqBTcs (www.debian.org) | Sep 28 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160927 ) | Sep 28 10:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781056195150942208 | Sep 28 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Linux Setup - Daniel Foré, elementary OS | Sep 28 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SeckhlouDA (www.mylinuxrig.com) | Sep 28 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com | The Linux Setup - Daniel Foré, elementary OS - My Linux Rig | Sep 28 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781056821373112321 | Sep 28 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Avoid the pile-up in 'Clustertruck', a first-person | Sep 28 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | platformer with day-1 Linux support, it's great | Sep 28 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Tjc2hdpMCr (error) | Sep 28 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/avoid-the-pile-up-in-clustertruck-a-first-person-platformer-with-day-1-linux-support-its-great.8190 ) | Sep 28 10:06 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781057131688722432 | Sep 28 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Sep 28 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | I've decided to have a digital sit-in on Lenovo's Facebook wall. | Sep 28 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | I will post a message about how they have banned Linux and are an enemy of your freedom every time they post something to their wall until they ban me. | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fusion 3, the next generation game engine and editor from | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Clickteam will support Linux https://t.co/difxHa1d6O | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 28 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/fusion-3-the-next-generation-game-engine-and-editor-from-clickteam-will-support-linux.8192 ) | Sep 28 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781057480994455552 | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/labmsFtIT5 (www.datamation.com) | Sep 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 10:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 Ways Linux Users Differ from Windows Users - Datamation | Sep 28 10:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: what if FB bans you? | Sep 28 10:08 |
| r_schestowitz | (not that I think it's a bad thing) | Sep 28 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, I have more than one FB account. | Sep 28 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | I can switch to the other one. | Sep 28 10:10 |
| cubexyz | from a longevity standpoint I can't say that thinkpads were all that great | Sep 28 10:13 |
| cubexyz | IBM R30's had a common problem with CMOS errors and replacing the battery didn't fix it | Sep 28 10:13 |
| cubexyz | also the LCD screen would often deteriorate to the point where you would have trouble using it | Sep 28 10:14 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 28 10:14 | |
| cubexyz | of course, R30 is 2001 era so probably most people wouldn't bother using anything that old | Sep 28 10:15 |
| cubexyz | the Dell Dimension 8200's would overheat to the point where the video card would become damaged | Sep 28 10:17 |
| cubexyz | that's 2002 era | Sep 28 10:18 |
| cubexyz | quite the obsolete clunk now | Sep 28 10:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Penguin___Lover/status/781070957112852480 | Sep 28 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Penguin___Lover: @schestowitz, Penguins FTW | Sep 28 11:00 | |
| *amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781057572472250368 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps https://t.co/MR1GnYZc1F | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 4.7.5, Up-to-Date Apps | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781059474089967616 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G3GmaZgABf (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 - Phoronix | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781061239187316736 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux success | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Z5ytenxUJ3 (opensource.com) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Asian Penguins convert Minnesota school to Linux | Opensource.com | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071729003114496 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vyWABiQmqF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Testing The BCache SSD Cache For HDDs On Linux 4.8 | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071730114564096 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux success | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OH8pHowtTi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Asian Penguins turn failed program into a Linux success | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071731163213824 | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SUSE Chasing Partners https://t.co/ORjCQ02bki | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Chasing Partners | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | dblaber: | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Blame Intel if Linux won’t install on your laptop | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | There’s been a lot of controversy about how some folks can’t get Linux to install on their laptops, and many angry users have been pointing their fingers at Microsoft. But a writer at PCWorld notes that it may be Intel’s fault, not Microsoft’s. | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Blame Intel if Linux won’t install on your laptop | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | There’s been a lot of controversy about how some folks can’t get Linux to install on their laptops, and many angry users have been pointing their fingers at Microsoft. But a writer at PCWorld notes that it may be Intel’s fault, not Microsoft’s. | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/article/3123821/linux/why-kid-hackers-should-have-a-linux-computer.html | Sep 28 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why kid hackers should have a Linux computer | InfoWorld | Sep 28 11:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | I meant daemonfc sorry | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | autocomplete while he's done | Sep 28 11:06 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/781072330080526336 | Sep 28 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz As a European, my fear for Trump is much larger than my love for either Sanders or Stein. I hope dncleaks turn out boring again | Sep 28 11:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://fedscoop.com/congressional-blockchain-caucus-mick-mulvaney-jared-polis | Sep 28 11:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedscoop.com | Tech-savvy lawmakers found blockchain caucus | Sep 28 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071732425707520 | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Access on the Rise https://t.co/rtdV1FQeFl | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Access on the Rise | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781071733684002817 | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS in Networking https://t.co/YRL59v2kLw | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS in Networking | Tux Machines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781076500107976704 | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Onion Creates a $5 Linux Computer with Wi-Fi, Designed | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for IoT Applications https://t.co/MuFqfFgf5I | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.infoq.com) | Sep 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Onion Creates a $5 Linux Computer with Wi-Fi, Designed for IoT Applications | Sep 28 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781078495594151936 | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.4 https://t.co/tLqiR8Sk2a | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) https://t.co/gxvFL9rMbL (www.infoworld.com) | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.4 « codeblog | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the Linux kernel a security problem? | InfoWorld | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781079185657921538 | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BlackBerry’s next rumored Android phone, the DTEK60, | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | passed through the FCC https://t.co/HTsjLFS4yr | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Sep 28 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | BlackBerry’s next rumored Android phone, the DTEK60, passed through the FCC - The Verge | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781079458178531328 | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mediatek's developer board features a 10-core chip and | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android 6.0 https://t.co/vmCKhIarr8 (www.pcworld.com) | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mediatek's developer board features a 10-core chip and Android 6.0 | PCWorld | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781079730489585665 | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromebooks get stable Android apps as Andromeda rumors | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | swirl https://t.co/T8oflcteG7 (www.pcworld.com) | Sep 28 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chromebooks get stable Android apps as Andromeda rumors swirl | PCWorld | Sep 28 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781081029801025536 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | B2G OS and Gecko Annoucement from Ari Jaaksi & David | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bryant https://t.co/huIleboT2V (groups.google.com) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groups.google.com | B2G OS and Gecko Annoucement from Ari Jaaksi & David Bryant - Google Groups | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781082267640791040 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google Pixel press shot leaked, shows new home button and | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | round icons https://t.co/MgTRQBZmCt | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpolice.com) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | [Update: Pixel XL too] Google Pixel press shot leaked, shows new home button and round icons | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781082465012178945 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Are Android and Chrome OS coming together for real this | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | time?" https://t.co/laJ9o1u8be (www.computerworld.com) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Andromeda? Making sense of an Android-Chrome OS marriage | Computerworld | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087581052149760 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/KEvkFkqNfS | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087582545293312 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/FWisE9sufG | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087583753244672 | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/YkLd8fAgsf | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/CHTfO8Jl.jpg | Sep 28 12:36 |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 12:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087584944398336 | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/Shv0kOGgVC | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781087586022326272 | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/jyIj10Lhtp | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781089224544116736 | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25 'Frozen' | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UcD1gCQW8I (techrights.org) | Sep 28 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25 ‘Frozen’ | Techrights | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| *XRevan86 has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 28 12:43 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 12:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS 2.93 Brewmaster Beta Adds New Security Fixes...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.5 "Atticus" to Reach End of...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.10 Final Beta Officially Released with Linux...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux...' | Sep 28 12:46 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/yJoRNP6.jpg | Sep 28 12:52 |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 28 13:17 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/9Opk9tI | Sep 28 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oddest time to update, razer - Imgur | Sep 28 13:19 | |
| *amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 13:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Gets MATE 1.16 Desktop Environment and Linux...' | Sep 28 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/781106293289418752 | Sep 28 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 28/9/2016: New Red Hat Offices, Fedora 25 'Frozen' | Sep 28 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts https://t.co/UcD1gCQW8I (techrights.org) | Sep 28 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 13:35 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/iiRzW97 | Sep 28 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You will never be as happy as this old man getting a pair of light up shoes. - GIF on Imgur | Sep 28 14:09 | |
| MinceR | http://boingboing.net/2016/09/27/how-a-pythagoras-cup-works.html | Sep 28 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | How a Pythagoras Cup works / Boing Boing | Sep 28 14:16 | |
| *Disconnected (Connection timed out). | Sep 28 18:43 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 28 18:43:21 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 28 18:43:46 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 28 18:43 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 28 18:43 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 28 18:43 | |
| *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 28 18:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185089124184064 | Sep 28 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka it's an interesting question. I think we still need some professional trained force to deal with violent crimes. | Sep 28 19:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185241603911680 | Sep 28 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka But it could be much smaller than today's police. Some forces are so corrupt that we have to disband them anyway. | Sep 28 19:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185543090470912 | Sep 28 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka I think in a lot of cities the entire police culture is so corrupt that it needs to be rebooted. San Francisco? | Sep 28 19:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | That's the one that killed Debian's founder | Sep 28 19:01 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185710065758208 https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781185953939410944 | Sep 28 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka A friend who visited SF recently says he saw gangs of pickpockets & three card monte games while cops ignored it. | Sep 28 19:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka The city is much worse than 5 years ago. SFPD cops must be on the take. County of SF is the same as city of SF. | Sep 28 19:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781186138794897408 | Sep 28 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka So there's no checks & balances between SF city & county gov like in most of the US. Rich SF techies don't care. | Sep 28 19:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781186452252078081 | Sep 28 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka Or in Los Angeles, we had crooked LAPD and also a crooked LA Sheriff's Dept. for unincorporated parts w/o police. | Sep 28 19:02 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/781187008349601792 | Sep 28 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @ajamubaraka We need to disband every crooked police force in the USA & reboot them with a culture of respect for communities. | Sep 28 19:03 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/K_Killah915/status/781189515503214592 https://twitter.com/K_Killah915/status/781189666116476928 https://twitter.com/K_Killah915/status/781189866650349568 | Sep 28 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K_Killah915: @jhamby @schestowitz @ajamubaraka Ur ridiculous. I grew up in the inner city of Queens, yeah some police r bad but their is also violence | Sep 28 19:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K_Killah915: @jhamby @schestowitz @ajamubaraka Gangs run the housing projects. They instill fear in our community | Sep 28 19:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@K_Killah915: @jhamby @schestowitz @ajamubaraka Anyone asking 4 police free comms grew up in the burbs or is ignorant | Sep 28 19:04 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/781191866008076289 | Sep 28 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz The important thing to remember is the #American people have lost by being presented with just two unappealing choices. #USpoli | Sep 28 19:04 | |
| *gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 19:07 | |
| *dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 19:07 | |
| MinceR | https://medium.com/the-nib/six-things-i-would-vote-for-before-trump-ade6f341941e | Sep 28 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six Things I Would Vote For Before Trump – The Nib – Medium | Sep 28 19:11 | |
| *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | Sep 28 19:14 | |
| MinceR | http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/abZoy4B_460s_v1.jpg | Sep 28 19:26 |
| *gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 19:26 | |
| r_schestowitz | funny | Sep 28 19:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE...' | Sep 28 19:41 | |
| *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 28 19:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781202268607614976 | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5 upcoming Android phones that are worth waiting for | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UGdakg4fpe (www.geek.com) | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 upcoming Android phones that are worth waiting for | Tech | Geek.com | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781204176009367552 | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "student arrived at our department this semester, and | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | after learning that he uses GNU/Linux for all his | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | computing.." https://t.co/PEwKqNCcSr (spwhitton.name) | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spwhitton.name | 'Do you really need to do that?' | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781204388694163456 | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android's Nougat Update Isn't Flashy, but Still Pretty | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Handy https://t.co/8CXTTQtFxi (abcnews.go.com) | Sep 28 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Android's Nougat Update Isn't Flashy, but Still Pretty Handy - ABC News | Sep 28 19:52 | |
| *gde33 (~Gaby@546A1135.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 19:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781204852240183298 | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Images Of Android-Powered BlackBerry Passport Emerge | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5M1mIzIwa3 (www.androidheadlines.com) | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Images Of Android-Powered BlackBerry Passport Emerge | Androidheadlines.com | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781209606584471552 | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4vYZrFBMSG (www.tizenexperts.com) | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Next Huawei Smartwatch Could Run Tizen, not Android Wear - Tizen Experts | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781209774780186624 | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Linux Kernel 4.8 https://t.co/fNqZROqqQa | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE Desktop 1.15.1 and Linux Kernel 4.8 | Sep 28 20:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781210216411136001 | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Polar M600 review: The best sports focused Android Wear | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartwatch available https://t.co/19iyiVQUPb | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Sep 28 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Polar M600 review: The best sports focused Android Wear smartwatch available Review | ZDNet | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781210651360370688 | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a diminutive | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desktop powered by AMD https://t.co/nOEOsyZFWf | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (betanews.com) https://t.co/re1VjpFFkI | Sep 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a diminutive desktop powered by AMD | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint Project Unveils Mintbox Mini Pro PC, Ships with Linux Mint 18 "Sarah" | Sep 28 20:15 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/TfsF53y | Sep 28 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The "yes for safeway" button does nothing. - Imgur | Sep 28 20:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @skankthis retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a...' | Sep 28 20:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MishiChoudhary retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Mint unveils 'Mintbox Mini Pro' -- a...' | Sep 28 20:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781211910117199872 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and GNOME 3.20 Desktop https://t.co/s1ifesYAdA | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 and GNOME 3.20 Desktop | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213035604172800 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | EXTON MultiBootCD 6-OS Now Includes 4MLinux, Tiny Core, | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SliTaz, Porteus & PuppEX https://t.co/rxOxXU8jQ1 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | EXTON MultiBootCD 6-OS Now Includes 4MLinux, Tiny Core, SliTaz, Porteus & PuppEX | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213417604575232 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Comes with LXDE as LXQt Got | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Postponed Until Lubuntu 17.04 https://t.co/C75tWQGmH6 | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Comes with LXDE as LXQt Got Postponed Until Lubuntu 17.04 | Sep 28 20:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213699738570752 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kYj6KPeiUy (hackerboards.com) | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781213962859937792 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat https://t.co/Dbe8zlDIid? | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxinsider.com) | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781214183232835585 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop https://t.co/sgU2830HMi | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216244988915718 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MQ90OKalmK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny, open, $18 quad-core SBC has WiFi, BT, eMMC, microSD | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216246251393025 | Sep 28 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat https://t.co/BezJtfT7Zz | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Panther OS Is No Cool Cat | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216248105357312 | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop https://t.co/k7c4CM7j2c | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta 2 Uses KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216249292345344 | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/xUpXCYeNvT | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 20:38 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tmp1-17.jpg | Sep 28 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781216250605211648 | Sep 28 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/s1xcArbFPk | Sep 28 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781218576707514368 | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Highlights of YaST development sprint 25 | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/K3uXA196qC (lizards.opensuse.org) | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lizards.opensuse.org | openSUSE Lizards | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781223885933019136 | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Niche - a genetics survival game' released with Linux | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support https://t.co/r8YZhO7LZv (error) | Sep 28 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/niche-a-genetics-survival-game-released-with-linux-support.8194 ) | Sep 28 21:08 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tmp2-17.jpg | Sep 28 21:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781223931634221056 | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Pavilion', the very stylish fourth-person puzzling | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | adventure released with day-1 Linux support | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/slXWCRuVvW (error) | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/pavilion-the-very-stylish-fourth-person-puzzling-adventure-released-with-day-1-linux-support.8195 ) | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781224686327853056 | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel's Beignet OpenCL For Linux Now Supports LLVM 3.9 | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KVNa1ZqODb (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel's Beignet OpenCL For Linux Now Supports LLVM 3.9 - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781226164664823808 | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpine Linux 3.4.4 released https://t.co/lMkNctUX0O | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.alpinelinux.org) | Sep 28 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.4.4 released | Alpine Linux | Sep 28 21:21 | |
| *dipper_sauce has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 28 21:34 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 28 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781227235093151744 | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NVIDIA Officially Releases CUDA 8 https://t.co/9LKMsZdnJF | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) more news about NV: | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/F6vbzDEyYW (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6P52TdXgdb (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Officially Releases CUDA 8 - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Announces "Xavier" AI Supercomputer SoC With Custom ARM64 + Volta GPU - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Shows Off Their Latest Linux-Powered AI Car Demonstration - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781229639133986816 | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WfMheardoe (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks - Phoronix | Sep 28 21:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232879871234049 | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Firefox Changes https://t.co/cgOe0bKlgY | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox Changes | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232881125306368 | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpine Linux 3.4.4 released https://t.co/ClyTaYddEj | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine Linux 3.4.4 released | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232882119380998 | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/09WwjkyR9U | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232883453222912 | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/LIEjB4FTxF | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 28 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781232884447219712 | Sep 28 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks | Sep 28 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zGHd8wunjN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | macOS 10.12 Sierra vs. Ubuntu 16.04 Linux Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lubuntu 16.10 Beta 2 Comes with LXDE as...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'EXTON MultiBootCD 6-OS Now Includes 4MLinux, Tiny Core,...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu MATE 16.10 Beta 2 Ships with MATE...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 16.10 Finally Gets a Public Release, Beta...' | Sep 28 22:17 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 28 22:20 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tmp3-15.jpg | Sep 28 22:26 |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 28 22:43:55 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 28 22:43 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 28 22:43 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 28 22:43 | |
| MinceR | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet | Sep 28 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | How to Crash Systemd in One Tweet [ http://ur1.ca/pt82b ] | Sep 28 22:44 | |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 28 22:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora...' | Sep 28 22:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781241867203710976 | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro start open-source development for IoT on ARM | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cortex-M https://t.co/o3dOthQu0u–1164526 | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.telecompaper.com) https://t.co/z4DxJ8WmTd | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.edn-europe.com) | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linaro start open-source development for IoT on ARM Cortex-M - Telecompaper | Sep 28 22:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edn-europe.com | Linaro organisation, with ARM, aims for end-end open source IoT code | EDN | Sep 28 22:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249556986015744 | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro and FOSS https://t.co/3AK9kVRw0x | Sep 28 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linaro and FOSS | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249558902808576 | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apache Spot https://t.co/ScheCM33hF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache Spot | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249560240791552 | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/JdzzhQwUJk | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249561725501440 | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/3wQ4e1r8KV | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 28 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 28 22:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/781081037573132288 | Sep 28 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @zoobab "openstack server list --limit -1 " fixed the issue. | Sep 28 23:07 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/Brainmage/status/781172583966380032 | Sep 28 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainmage: Despite all my rage I am still just https://t.co/WvfSukW4ng | Sep 28 23:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainmage: Despite all my rage I am still just https://t.co/WvfSukW4ng | Sep 28 23:53 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/781273251498647552 | Sep 29 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: https://t.co/254cK0fswF https://t.co/rgOCLXuDvA | Sep 29 00:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @wikileaks https://t.co/xTchiT7Mwo | Sep 29 00:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks Different genders and names, but the interests overlap | Sep 29 00:24 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 00:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781249563290021888 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Server Administration https://t.co/lLdZ0ZYeg1 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server Administration | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781275487171739648 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Endless OS 3.0 is out! https://t.co/jELFFh04OI | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.joaquimrocha.com) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.joaquimrocha.com | Endless OS 3.0 is out! | Joaquim Rocha's Web Page | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281060424327168 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel News https://t.co/KpGiVrTHqQ | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel News | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281061397405696 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ovV2tLSyVs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mercedes and Kia add new Android Auto models | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281062596907008 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i8JQy2elmu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Expandable, outdoor IoT gateway runs Android on i.MX6 | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281064018808832 | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Endless OS 3.0 is out! https://t.co/vawRGmn38W | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Endless OS 3.0 is out! | Tux Machines | Sep 29 00:55 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Seems like a real response from Lenovo on Facebook. | Sep 29 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | They told me that if I don't cut it out, they'll just ban me from commenting on their page. | Sep 29 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK[S] 1 point 3 hours ago* | Sep 29 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has been lying and engaging in a cover up after blocking Linux and initially admitting that it was part of a deal with Microsoft. Especially on their forum. This is "suspicious" on the level of all third party ink cartridges stop working on the same day in HP printers and HP says "Whoops.". | Sep 29 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | 瑨灴㩳⼯睴瑩整�潣⽭捳敨瑳睯瑩⽺瑳瑡獵㜯ㄸㄲ㠱㠹㘵㠱㐸㘱 | Sep 29 01:18 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/781211898561884160 | Sep 29 01:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 and GNOME 3.20 Desktop https://t.co/GqyPAErEs9 #fedora #gnu #linux | Sep 29 01:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Chapeau 24 Linux Officially Released, Based on Fedora 24 and GNOME 3.20 Desktop | Sep 29 01:20 | |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/After-Lenovo-abandoned-Linux-best-replacement/m-p/3441207#M8491 | Sep 29 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: After Lenovo abandoned Linux, best replacement... - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/pt8od ] | Sep 29 01:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, Lenovo would like it if you believed that Linux no longer working with their latest Yoga laptops is just a coincidence. | Sep 29 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 29 01:21 | |
| DaemonFC | I guess it's as much of a coincidence as all 3rd party ink cartridges stop working in HP printers on the same day. | Sep 29 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 29 01:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Funny coincidence, that.... | Sep 29 01:21 |
| cubexyz | HP is good and bad just like Lenovo is good and bad | Sep 29 01:22 |
| cubexyz | Stallman was using a Lenovo X200 laptop | Sep 29 01:23 |
| cubexyz | I currently use HP scanners and HP chromebook | Sep 29 01:23 |
| cubexyz | and a HP laserprinter from 1997 | Sep 29 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, I don't dare get rid of my old HP AIO printer now. | Sep 29 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't give me the error so I think it's before they built in the timebomb. | Sep 29 01:25 |
| cubexyz | was HP and Lenovo better in the past? definitely | Sep 29 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | It has a driver that works in Windows 10. They're going to have to pry it out of my cold dead hands. | Sep 29 01:26 |
| cubexyz | but all-in-ones have some drawbacks... harder to fix if something goes wrong | Sep 29 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | has someone told RMS about HP DRM? | Sep 29 01:28 |
| r_schestowitz | He staretd GNU after a xeron faceoff he had had | Sep 29 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. Has anyone told him about Lenovo, for that matter? | Sep 29 01:28 |
| cubexyz | was it a xerox printer? I forget | Sep 29 01:29 |
| cubexyz | yes, a laser printer | Sep 29 01:30 |
| cubexyz | I was in a similar situation with the HP 4470c scanner a few years ago | Sep 29 01:31 |
| cubexyz | HP couldn't help me... the real villian was Realtek and there RTS8891 chip | Sep 29 01:33 |
| cubexyz | Realtek didn't give out any info on their chip | Sep 29 01:34 |
| *tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 29 01:34 | |
| cubexyz | eventually some european programmers reverse-engineered the windows driver | Sep 29 01:34 |
| cubexyz | hardly ideal, although I was able to use the scanner | Sep 29 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideapad-710s-and-Linux/m-p/3441211#M8492 | Sep 29 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: ideapad 710s and Linux - Page 5 - Lenovo Community | Sep 29 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Yogas not letting you install Linux is a coincidence....in the same way that all HP printers rejecting 3rd party ink on the same day was a *quotation fingers* "coincidence". | Sep 29 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 29 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Speaking of which: I don't dare get rid of my old HP AIO printer now. It didn't give me the *quotation fingers*"error" so I think it's before they built in the timebomb. It has a driver that works in Windows 10. They're going to have to pry it out of my cold dead hands. | Sep 29 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | Sep 29 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, Matthew Garrett blamed Intel for the *quotation fingers* "unfortunate situation" with Yogas and Linux, but Alan Cox not only works for Intel, he's a kernel developer that understands how to work in areas of the kernel that scare away almost everyone else, who have a hard time figuring out what's going on in there. Think.....assembler. | Sep 29 01:35 |
| cubexyz | the HP officejet printer/scanner/copiers were fairly well suported... e.g. the officejet 7130 would work on linux out of the box | Sep 29 01:36 |
| cubexyz | there were a bunch of different ones | Sep 29 01:37 |
| *dipper_sauce (~dipper_sa@fl-76-5-60-10.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 01:37 | |
| cubexyz | oh another bad one was the HP 4850 scanner | Sep 29 01:38 |
| cubexyz | except for that one it was the GL843 chip, but there actually was a data sheet available for it | Sep 29 01:38 |
| cubexyz | I have an interesting in programming, but there's a limit to everything | Sep 29 01:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, yes SANE eventually did support the HP 4850C, but not all features were supported | Sep 29 01:42 |
| cubexyz | good enough to get by I suppose | Sep 29 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideapad-710s-and-Linux/m-p/3441214#M8493 | Sep 29 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Re: ideapad 710s and Linux - Page 5 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/pt8r8 ] | Sep 29 01:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Avoiding a technical violation while talking about the *quotation fingers* "unfortunate totally coincidental Linux situation" on the Yogas on this forum is getting to the point where it's like if people asked you if the FBI was there and having to say "no" while nodding your head. Smiley Happy | Sep 29 01:43 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ChrisOrtega0/status/781287701169352704 | Sep 29 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChrisOrtega0: @schestowitz @DrJillStein @HillaryClinton @GovGaryJohnson lmfaoo well put! 😂 Also the unaware masses who comply to what's given to them | Sep 29 01:50 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54wqxp/libressl_250_released/ | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/op_hector/status/781295113209192448 | Sep 29 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | LibreSSL 2.5.0 released : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pt8sd ] | Sep 29 01:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@op_hector: @schestowitz @Truthdig @DrJillStein Trump alone no prob. The saddest part is it shows the thinking & feeling of almost half the voters in US | Sep 29 01:51 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | It's really unfortunate that there are so many users of OpenSSL. It's a subsidy black hole that will never be secure. LibreSSL has had problems, but you can go to the Wikipedia article and compare vulnerabilities since OpenSSL 1.0.2 against LibreSSL and tell me which one people should be using. | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing has improved, really, since Heartbleed. | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, seen that | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | in techrights and tuxmachines already | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: lenovo has its own fork | Sep 29 01:51 |
| r_schestowitz | it's called superSSL | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | Good one! | Sep 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, added that into the comments. | Sep 29 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 29 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | I also hear that Lenovo had their own fork. | Sep 29 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | SuperSSL. | Sep 29 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks folks, I'll be here all day. :P | Sep 29 01:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781281065000243200 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/OQFMfzZAK4 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 01:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781294355130748928 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6KcQcdbt1d (techrights.org) | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0 | Techrights | Sep 29 01:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296068998770688 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Networking and Security https://t.co/7Xj03dUqZ7 | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Networking and Security | Tux Machines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| *MarkBilk_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296070487789569 | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/qJurP6OAA4 | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781296071834087424 | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/f7VxSE0jTo | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 01:55 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/54zl0u/dont_hide_drm_in_a_security_update/ | Sep 29 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Don't Hide DRM in a Security Update : linux | Sep 29 01:56 | |
| DaemonFC | [–]BaronHK 1 point just now | Sep 29 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Tell people that a major PC OEM made Linux stop working on half a dozen computer models (Lenovo), people call you a conspiracy theorist. | Sep 29 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Make everyone's affordable 3rd party ink fail on the same day (HP), everyone loses their minds. | Sep 29 01:56 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0...' | Sep 29 01:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Links 28/9/2016: Alpine Linux 3.4.4, Endless OS 3.0...' | Sep 29 01:56 | |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Shoould really post the Linux warning on the sites selling the 910 when it comes out. | Sep 29 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | *Should | Sep 29 02:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [01:52] <DaemonFC> Thanks folks, I'll be here all day. :P | Sep 29 02:06 |
| r_schestowitz | :_D | Sep 29 02:06 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, they already suffer | Sep 29 02:07 |
| r_schestowitz | the media sort of moved on and lost interest | Sep 29 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | Do we have any idea how much though? | Sep 29 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't seem like people are losing interest. Especially when you mention that you can't reinstall Windows and would have to send it in to Lenovo for that. | Sep 29 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | So it's important to mention that too. | Sep 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | That way you gain the interest of people who will never run Linux and they might decide to continue shopping. | Sep 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, The tidal wave of up votes on Best Buy made me a Top 50 reviewer with just two reviews posted. :) | Sep 29 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | So my future reviews will be on top of others. | Sep 29 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | I really want to keep hitting Lenovo with this. They can eventually ban me from their own sites (at least as far as they know), but the real damage can be done with comments and reviews about their products on other sites. | Sep 29 02:10 |
| cubexyz | secure boot and all that stuff made me dig into BIOS back in late 2010 | Sep 29 02:10 |
| cubexyz | I'm glad I did... learned a lot | Sep 29 02:10 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: way to go, you're a "dangerous" man now | Sep 29 02:15 |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC: some people sue over reviews | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | techdirt wrote about examples this month, new ones... | Sep 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, Yeah, but those are usually obscure companies. | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | it always backfired and the company loses, gets even more negative publicity | Sep 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | And it blows up in their face. | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | also, steam IIRC banned one company over it | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | and tossed/canned their game | Sep 29 02:16 |
| r_schestowitz | some companies require you prove to have purchased the item before reviewing | Sep 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, John said "They might sue you.". I said, "That's fine. If I lose I'll file bnkruptcy and then I'll write about it.". | Sep 29 02:17 |
| r_schestowitz | some firms are in the business of posting fake NEGATIVE reviews | Sep 29 02:17 |
| r_schestowitz | the FTC hardly enforces the law | Sep 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | "If I win, I'll write about it." | Sep 29 02:17 |
| r_schestowitz | I sent some complaint letter to the FTC about it | Sep 29 02:17 |
| r_schestowitz | and I'm no US citizen | Sep 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | r_schestowitz, You should complain to whatever the relevant agency is in the UK. | Sep 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | You might contact the EU. You can still do that. :) | Sep 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | I encouraged people to contact the US federal government and their state Attorney General's office. | Sep 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of these cases against big companies get lumped together if multiple states file charges against them. | Sep 29 02:19 |
| r_schestowitz | MSFT is a US company | Sep 29 02:19 |
| r_schestowitz | and the firms they get for astroturfing are US-based | Sep 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Then it ends up in the federal courts anyway. | Sep 29 02:19 |
| r_schestowitz | so the EU cannot do much | Sep 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo. | Sep 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has to be hurt so other OEMs will say "You know what. A $20 rebate on each Signature PC isn't worth it.". | Sep 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Or whatever it is. | Sep 29 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | The Signature PC program hasn't really worked out too well. The people who buy the cheaper models usually find out that they don't have enough space on the SSD to upgrade Windows or store many files. | Sep 29 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | End up putting Ubuntu on it to free up 20 gigs. | Sep 29 02:21 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EddieJohnson13/status/781307677368397825 | Sep 29 02:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EddieJohnson13: @schestowitz @DrJillStein 99.9%+ of cops have never killed anyone. You are a mental midget | Sep 29 02:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | This number if fabricated unless there are over a million cops in the US | Sep 29 02:44 |
| cubexyz | read up on Kelly Thomas, 2011 beat to death by cops | Sep 29 02:44 |
| cubexyz | and I still don't know what the deal was with Ian Murdock | Sep 29 02:47 |
| *Disconnected (Connection timed out). | Sep 29 10:26 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 29 10:26:25 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 29 10:26:46 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 29 10:26 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 29 10:26 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 29 10:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781421064949735424 | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | InXile Entertainment announced Wasteland 3, will use | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | crowdfunding on fig https://t.co/AMA0hahYx2 (error) | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/inxile-entertainment-announced-wasteland-3-will-use-crowdfunding-on-fig.8200 ) | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426777335869440 | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development, Improves Swarm Mode https://t.co/GJmU7i8RVP | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development, Improves Swarm Mode | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426778715721728 | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More on Canonical and Kubernetes https://t.co/TOKF3UPKJ4 | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on Canonical and Kubernetes | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426780053774336 | Sep 29 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 | Sep 29 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | billion turnover in 5 years https://t.co/xzWbfiAzX0 | Sep 29 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Company Red Hat banks on India to hit $ 5 billion turnover in 5 years | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426781202944000 | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/2ULdI32vs4 | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781426782486470656 | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Servers/Networks https://t.co/THAgGU36Mn | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers/Networks | Tux Machines | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development,...' | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Docker 1.12.2 Linux App Container Engine Enters Development,...' | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 Beta 2 Released with Many...' | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Studio 16.10 to Offer an Up-to-Date Multimedia...' | Sep 29 10:37 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 10:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Raspberry Pi Foundation Unveils New LXDE-Based Desktop for...' | Sep 29 11:10 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/WS58CbE | Sep 29 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows has computer - Imgur | Sep 29 11:23 | |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 29 11:25 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice one | Sep 29 11:27 |
| *amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-79-121.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 11:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ManagingIP/status/781440213646209024 | Sep 29 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ManagingIP: Letter expressing concerns re EPO management & Boards of Appeal - sent in February this year https://t.co/lToxWuTKUY | Sep 29 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @ManagingIP Letter From Dutch Institute of Patent Attorneys to the Administrative Council of #EPO https://t.co/UXX6jfAw7X | Sep 29 11:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/781446558931947524 | Sep 29 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rbanffy: @schestowitz in the end, if it causes Trump to be elected, there is little difference, even if someone feels they did what was morally right | Sep 29 11:53 | |
| MinceR | http://ateistamembazis.hu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/3179-00707-frustrations-2-650-x-2386.jpg | Sep 29 11:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/i9Y6db2 | Sep 29 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I don't think that's right, Word... - Imgur | Sep 29 12:09 | |
| MinceR | crApple pulling a micro$oft (yet again) >> http://www.androidauthority.com/android-wear-not-connecting-iphone-7-718921/ | Sep 29 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Android Wear watches aren't connecting to the iPhone 7 | Sep 29 12:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @SaimaAshiq favourited 'Samsung Z2 (SM-Z200F) Certified in Indonesia, likely Launching...' | Sep 29 13:00 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/UzjV1NQ | Sep 29 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LiquidSky now requires both your email and your email. - Imgur | Sep 29 13:02 | |
| MinceR | dumbFuckBook doing the usual shit >> http://www.androidauthority.com/whatsapp-wont-delete-data-india-718929/ | Sep 29 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | WhatsApp refuses to delete user data in India after court ruling [ http://ur1.ca/ptblg ] | Sep 29 13:06 | |
| *Nazmo_ (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 13:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781463709688397824 | Sep 29 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/iQ5LBHhi6b | Sep 29 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 13:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 13:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 29 13:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/iQ5LBHhi6b' | Sep 29 13:11 | |
| schestowitz | daemon should see https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7903520 | Sep 29 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Lenovo Yogas not letting you install Linux is a coincidence....in the same way that all HP printers [DRM] coincidence". https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ideapad-710s-and-Linux/m-p/3441211#M8492 | Sep 29 13:20 | |
| schestowitz | among many more | Sep 29 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forums.lenovo.com | Re: ideapad 710s and Linux - Page 5 - Lenovo Community | Sep 29 13:20 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Y3W4x | Sep 29 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trying to set up my Lynda account for work - Album on Imgur | Sep 29 13:35 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/tc4-14.jpg | Sep 29 13:45 |
| schestowitz | someone just sent me https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet again | Sep 29 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | How to Crash Systemd in One Tweet | Sep 29 14:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GringoPeruano/status/781480332616884228 | Sep 29 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GringoPeruano: I wonder how many ppl would like 2say: "Fuck it, I quit”? :) https://t.co/HUss2bZ81R | Sep 29 14:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Reporter who quit on air to fight for #cannabis legalization could face prison https://t.co/slAO120aOj https://t.co/G5aI2MZguW | Sep 29 14:10 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/user24/status/781480853058809857 | Sep 29 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@user24: @schestowitz who's yesterday?!? lol! | Sep 29 14:11 | |
| MinceR | i don't get it | Sep 29 14:11 |
| schestowitz | me neither | Sep 29 14:12 |
| schestowitz | too early for booze | Sep 29 14:12 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe he thought "there" or "their" is "they're". | Sep 29 14:13 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Mzv6k49 | Sep 29 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shall the application preferences be removed? - No, application preferences / Yes, application preferences - Imgur | Sep 29 14:17 | |
| schestowitz | server under heavy load | Sep 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | I want to change page for "Error 503 Service Unavailable" | Sep 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Varnish makes this very hard | Sep 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | "guru meditation" is an old game meme, hardly meaningful to visitors. I'd rather change, if not the layout, the text | Sep 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | to something like, "try again later, we're busy at the moment" | Sep 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | too hard imho http://serverfault.com/questions/248041/custom-503-error-page-with-varnish | Sep 29 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | Custom 503 Error Page With Varnish - Server Fault | Sep 29 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | I think I got it under control now | Sep 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz | I don't see why varnish makes it so tricky to change | Sep 29 14:24 |
| schestowitz | maybe they try to sell their services or some proprietary crap, that's their business model I think, like nginx's | Sep 29 14:24 |
| MinceR | LigHTTPD > nginx | Sep 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz | yeah, maybe... | Sep 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz | but I don't even use nginx for tuxmachines and techrights | Sep 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz | I use Apache | Sep 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz | at work I suppose nginx for clients | Sep 29 14:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: anyway, if you know of some simply way to remove this "guru meditation" silliness without hard-coded code changes, let me know. It's looking unprofessional to visitors... | Sep 29 14:30 |
| MinceR | dunno | Sep 29 14:31 |
| MinceR | doesn't look unprofessional to me | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I checked this several times in the past (years ago also), it's still hard to achieve | Sep 29 14:31 |
| MinceR | then again, visitors may not be aware of amiga :> | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | well, the error code is OK | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | but I'd rather say try again later | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, Amiga reference | Sep 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | We're going to a yoga class tonight | Sep 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz | MinceR:thanks for the time anyway; if you know some varnish gurus, let me know | Sep 29 14:36 |
| MinceR | np | Sep 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | I bet it can be done more simply, but searching the Web nets nothing | Sep 29 14:36 |
| MinceR | i don't know any | Sep 29 14:36 |
| schestowitz | it's just a bunch of simple HTML, so I should be able to even throw <img src="BANNER" /> at it | Sep 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | lots of traffic today,not ddos | Sep 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | due to leaks from the epo, which I published (two major ones) | Sep 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | the server's db is on fire | Sep 29 14:37 |
| schestowitz | apropos, MinceR: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-journalist-arrested-for-illegal-voting-after-exposing-carousel-fraud-in-duma-elections-denis-a7334351.html | Sep 29 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Russian journalist arrested for 'illegal' voting after exposing fraud in Duma elections | The Independent | Sep 29 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | cc XRevan86 | Sep 29 14:39 |
| schestowitz | who probably already heard of it | Sep 29 14:39 |
| MinceR | problem solved :> | Sep 29 14:40 |
| XRevan86 | I did hear about it indeed. | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/781466469620076548 | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/iQ5LBHhi6b | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 29 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781487302153474048 | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | security things in Linux v4.5 https://t.co/9tDxTdqMEn | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (outflux.net) | Sep 29 14:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outflux.net | security things in Linux v4.5 « codeblog | Sep 29 14:40 | |
| XRevan86 | http://newsru.com/russia/27sep2016/fontanka.html corresponding article in Russian | Sep 29 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: Раскрывшего "карусель" на выборах в Петербурге корреспондента "Фонтанки" будут судить [ http://ur1.ca/ptc5z ] | Sep 29 14:44 | |
| XRevan86 | Last paragraph from newsru.com to confuse even more: | Sep 29 14:48 |
| XRevan86 | > Later "Fontanka" (remak: that's the newpaper that did the check) found out that electional bulletins were illegally distributed by a citizen of Ukraine who wasn't a member of the committee. The paper wrote that she's 31-year old Natalia Mashina who works as a barber in St. Petersburg. | Sep 29 14:48 |
| XRevan86 | "citizen of Ukraine" might actually mean that she was pressured to do so to get an RF citizenship or something. | Sep 29 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | Or not, I have no clue. | Sep 29 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781488814787293184 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Hubs: Getting started https://t.co/3OsCu5JfIl | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (communityblog.fedoraproject.org) | Sep 29 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-hubs-getting-started/ ) | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781489856283279360 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The future of GNOME Calendar https://t.co/H2eDsYyaH7 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (feaneron.com) | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | The future of GNOME Calendar | Georges Stavracas | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781495707085791232 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alphabet's Plans to Create Android PCs Should Make | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft a Little Nervous https://t.co/jAll8XVev1 | Sep 29 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (realmoney.thestreet.com) | Sep 29 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-realmoney.thestreet.com | Alphabet's Plans to Create Android PCs Should Make Microsoft a Little Nervous | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781496624346529792 | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Tiny Internet Project, Part I https://t.co/CyrHOGY7MK | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | The Tiny Internet Project, Part I | Linux Journal | Sep 29 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781496920355250176 | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.18 Tool for Creating Snaps | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/3Da8jPZJNR | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.18 Tool for Creating Snaps in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Sep 29 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781496970888220673 | Sep 29 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint's XApps to Get Screen Blanking, Sublime-like | Sep 29 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Search Bar Lands for Xed https://t.co/kqCXHic6BJ | Sep 29 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint's XApps to Get Screen Blanking, Sublime-like Search Bar Lands for Xed | Sep 29 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781497194968969220 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sony Xperia X Compact review: Small Android is still | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | good, but not much better https://t.co/nUOQcimsOj | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (arstechnica.com) | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Sony Xperia X Compact review: Small Android is still good, but not much better | Ars Technica | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498609954992128 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More on Russia Moving to FOSS https://t.co/M1hrGYhp5H | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on Russia Moving to FOSS | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498611163025408 | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux/FOSS Events https://t.co/daekKFZOkb | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux/FOSS Events | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:19 | |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1412.html | Sep 29 15:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids [ http://ur1.ca/ptcd7 ] | Sep 29 15:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498612492611585 | Sep 29 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/Yt2zuPLpjI | Sep 29 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498613490790401 | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/XprLtsb4N6 | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781498614539431936 | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/JRVWvENtWX | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781499156250656769 | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with LibreOffice 5.2.2 https://t.co/3ksUHZeU7R | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity with LibreOffice 5.2.2 | Sep 29 15:24 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 29 15:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781499669226610688 | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Osiris: New Dawn', a graphically impressive multiplayer | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | adventure and survival game coming to Linux | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vI1qam12b1 (error) | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/osiris-new-dawn-a-graphically-impressive-multiplayer-adventure-and-survival-game-coming-to-linux.8201 ) | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781500329011605504 | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Sunless Skies', the next game after 'Sunless Sea' to | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support Linux, will go to Kickstarter next year | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5j5t9W9edo (error) | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/sunless-skies-the-next-game-after-sunless-sea-to-support-linux-will-go-to-kickstarter-next-year.8202 ) | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781500911604596736 | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II, Chaos Rising and | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Retribution released for Linux, port report and thoughts | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CtEQ15vofp (error) | Sep 29 15:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-ii-chaos-rising-and-retribution-released-for-linux-port-report-and-thoughts.8205 ) | Sep 29 15:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @crowdassistco favourited ''Sunless Skies', the next game after 'Sunless Sea'...' | Sep 29 16:07 | |
| MinceR | https://66.media.tumblr.com/1f96ac30b174119209efc128fd97ec02/tumblr_odckapv2Ok1tlb56zo1_400.gif | Sep 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sda729/status/781515777035816960 | Sep 29 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sda729: @schestowitz @ajamubaraka & more WallSt shenanigans, like monetizing our collective psychosis of cellphone addiction https://t.co/N24mTkFmPA | Sep 29 16:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @devpytech favourited '5 Strange Linux Distributions That Are Useful In...' | Sep 29 16:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Robert_Waters1 followed @tuxmachines | Sep 29 16:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases Snapcraft 2.18 Tool for Creating Snaps...' | Sep 29 16:43 | |
| *acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 16:47 | |
| *MarkBilk has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Sep 29 17:06 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Jj5SRRX | Sep 29 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msg_crappy_application - Imgur | Sep 29 17:19 | |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Sep 29 21:11 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 29 21:11:27 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 29 21:11:55 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 29 21:11 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 29 21:11 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 29 21:11 | |
| *MarkBilk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 29 21:16 | |
| *MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@2001:558:6045:ea:a90f:7784:fd40:a761) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 21:16 | |
| *MarkBilk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 29 21:22 | |
| *MarkBilk (~MarkBilk@c-73-231-87-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 21:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/781523184550047744 | Sep 29 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz meeting was today, but have a hard time to find the video recordings. | Sep 29 21:25 | |
| schestowitz | [17:19] <MinceR> http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/Jj5SRRX | Sep 29 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msg_crappy_application - Imgur | Sep 29 21:46 | |
| schestowitz | [17:19] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- msg_crappy_application - Imgur | Sep 29 21:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't get it | Sep 29 21:46 |
| MinceR | all the labels are msg_something instead of their intended content | Sep 29 21:48 |
| cubexyz | what was the name of the program? | Sep 29 21:48 |
| cubexyz | I assume it's name isn't msg_crappy_application :) | Sep 29 21:49 |
| cubexyz | and I got a windows 10 ad | Sep 29 21:50 |
| cubexyz | "...get a great price on a yoga 900" | Sep 29 21:51 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Sep 29 21:51 |
| MinceR | dunno | Sep 29 21:53 |
| *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | Sep 29 21:53 | |
| *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 21:53 | |
| MinceR | some sony crap | Sep 29 21:53 |
| MinceR | probably playstation brand | Sep 29 21:53 |
| schestowitz | yes, it did look dodgy | Sep 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | but not quite so hilarious, that's all | Sep 29 21:55 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 29 21:57 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 21:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreOffice Office Suite Celebrates 6 Years of Activity...' | Sep 29 22:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LLesleyThomas followed @tuxmachines | Sep 29 22:04 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 29 22:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781600525691289601 | Sep 29 22:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google delays launch of Android Wear 2.0 to next year | Sep 29 22:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oww0IwjkLA (www.theverge.com) | Sep 29 22:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google delays launch of Android Wear 2.0 to next year - The Verge | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781600700933496832 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Luna Launcher turns your Android phone into a | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kid-friendly device https://t.co/In00vtWUY4 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techcrunch.com) | Sep 29 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Luna Launcher turns your Android phone into a kid-friendly device | TechCrunch | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781600794000973824 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in the works | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uTUWWKPmDh (betanews.com) | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in the works | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781601112159813632 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Huawei will introduce its next flagship on November 3 | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zDccVBMsrF (www.androidauthority.com) | Sep 29 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Huawei will introduce its next flagship on November 3 - Android Authority | Sep 29 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781601405236830208 | Sep 29 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OVS 2.6 and The First Release of OVN | Sep 29 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fPqamPYrdb (blog.russellbryant.net) | Sep 29 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 22:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.russellbryant.net | OVS 2.6 and The First Release of OVN | Russell Bryant | Sep 29 22:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ValeriAnzalone retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in...' | Sep 29 22:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Spotted in Lenovo's support forum this morning. Apparently, Lenovo's "warranty" service means you ship off your computer to a black hole and never get it back. This isn't the first horror story I've heard about their warranty service. | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | rlynnb | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo Can't Seem to Tell Me What's Wrong with my Computer! [ 09-29-2016 01:57 PM | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | I purchased a Y700 in April. (New from Best Buy) By June, it had started shutting itself off and rebooting. By July, it had gotten to the point, where it would not stay on at all. I sent it in for repairs. I have called multiple times and I have been told that the hard drive was bad, that the motherboard was bad, that the OS won't work. I JUST bought this machine! They also cannot tell me when I will get it back. For weeks, I have been told | Sep 29 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… ) | Sep 29 22:31 | |
| DaemonFC | that the parts are on backorder. Seriously? | Sep 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, I was sold a defective machine. I have asked for a refund. Has anyone in here actually received a refund? | Sep 29 22:31 |
| *acer-box______ has quit (Ping timeout: 263 seconds) | Sep 29 22:31 | |
| *acer-box (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 29 22:34 | |
| MinceR | http://giphy.com/gifs/ssOa1XSMve0mI | Sep 29 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Drawing GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY | Sep 29 22:35 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/554md5/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Sep 29 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. [x-post from /r/lenovo] : technology | Sep 29 22:41 | |
| MinceR | that's an interesting "solution" | Sep 29 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Stuck in a customer service vindaloop. :) | Sep 29 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chicago is raising the tax on water again. | Sep 29 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | By $254 million. To go to teacher pensions. | Sep 29 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | And they got $210 million from Illinois as a bailout. | Sep 29 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | They asked the teachers union to take a small cut, so they authorized a teacher strike to begin on October 11. | Sep 29 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Their union said that as long as the government can take more money from taxpayers, they should do that instead. | Sep 29 23:04 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/PElA4kv.jpg | Sep 29 23:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @madisoncrooksh1 favourited 'OnePlus 3 Android 7.0 Nougat update is in...' | Sep 29 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781618114584805376 | Sep 29 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How I Use Android: Android Central Editor Emeritus Phil | Sep 29 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nickinson https://t.co/s40Klu1ZIP (www.computerworld.com) | Sep 29 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I Use Android: Android Central Editor Emeritus Phil Nickinson | Computerworld | Sep 29 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781618267030970368 | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Android Phones Under 5.7 Inches | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iKcnu2omPk (www.androidcentral.com) | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best Android Phones Under 5.7 Inches | Android Central | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781618447046348804 | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! https://t.co/oqy28liMtj | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.qubes-os.org) | Sep 29 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qubes-os.org | Qubes OS 3.2 has been released! | Qubes OS Project | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781620019197255680 | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | servers https://t.co/fSXMb0pqIF (www.zdnet.com) | Sep 29 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat claims headway in Asia, bets big on container and hybrid cloud | ZDNet | Sep 29 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781620903306227712 | Sep 29 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Hybrid Wars', a futuristic top-down mech shooter | Sep 29 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released with day-1 Linux support https://t.co/wrt6Ln1qS6 | Sep 29 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 29 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/hybrid-wars-a-futuristic-top-down-mech-shooter-released-with-day-1-linux-support-.8211 ) | Sep 29 23:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited ''Hybrid Wars', a futuristic top-down mech shooter released...' | Sep 29 23:31 | |
| cubexyz | I don't think I've seen any laptop I call easy to repair | Sep 29 23:40 |
| razielle_tzu | me neither | Sep 29 23:40 |
| schestowitz | [22:31] <DaemonFC> https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… | Sep 29 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://forums.lenovo.com/…/Lenovo-Can-t-Seem-…/m-p/3442008… ) | Sep 29 23:42 | |
| schestowitz | bad link | Sep 29 23:42 |
| schestowitz | I cannot open this | Sep 29 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They removed it from technology. | Sep 29 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's still up in lenovo I think | Sep 29 23:42 |
| cubexyz | building the pitop took this one person 3 hours | Sep 29 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | from abrownn [M] via /r/technology sent 49 minutes ago | Sep 29 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for the following reason(s): | Sep 29 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Rule #1.vi: This submission is about one or more incidents of requesting customer support or is providing customer feedback about a product, company or service. | Sep 29 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | If you have any questions, please message the moderators and include the link to the submission. We apologize for the inconvenience. | Sep 29 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/554m3e/lenovo_customer_support_they_told_a_person_to/ | Sep 29 23:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo "customer support". They told a person to send in their malfunctioning laptop in June. It's almost October now and they keep making excuses for why it's still there. : Lenovo | Sep 29 23:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781622396763643908 | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Budgie Remix 16.10 Beta 2 Officially Released with | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Budgie Desktop 10.2.7 https://t.co/ogxYdJQtJK | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Sep 29 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Budgie Remix 16.10 Beta 2 Officially Released with Budgie Desktop 10.2.7 | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Budgie Remix 16.10 Beta 2 Officially Released...' | Sep 29 23:45 | |
| cubexyz | repasting the CPU is a bit of a foreign concept for me | Sep 29 23:46 |
| cubexyz | most heat is produced in the middle of the processor heatspreader | Sep 29 23:49 |
| cubexyz | ummm, a laptop might not have a heat spreader on the cpu | Sep 29 23:50 |
| cubexyz | anyways the old slot 1's have been running for 18 years | Sep 29 23:51 |
| cubexyz | and those did have a heat spreader | Sep 29 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | 1 min · | Sep 29 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | The House and Senate both voted to override President Obama's veto of JASTA, which will now allow victims of 9/11 to sue Saudi Arabia. | Sep 29 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote to both of Illinois' Senators and my Congresswoman to ask them all to override the President's veto. Our "alliance" with Saudi Arabia is inexcusable considering their human rights record. For many Saudis, it's as bad as living in Iran. The only reason that the US turned a blind eye to so many human rights abuses and the link between Saudi officials and 9/11 is because we needed their oil. | Sep 29 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | We need to reduce our consumption of oil for many reasons, but one of them is so that we no longer have to tolerate state sponsors of terrorism such as Saudi Arabia for fear of an oil embargo. | Sep 29 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/30/world/middleeast/chagrined-by-9-11-victims-law-saudis-rethink-us-alliance.html?_r=0 | Sep 29 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times | Sep 29 23:55 | |
| cubexyz | got to go with the HP NX9030 as the longevity champ for laptops | Sep 29 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, This might be embarrassing to Linus Torvalds. | Sep 30 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | He reportedly praised the Yoga 900 before going with the Dell XPS. | Sep 30 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-reveals-his-favorite-programming-laptop/ | Sep 30 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds reveals his favorite programming laptop | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/ptf8i ] | Sep 30 00:03 | |
| DaemonFC | The prior model, it seems. | Sep 30 00:03 |
| cubexyz | most likely | Sep 30 00:03 |
| MinceR | dHell garbage | Sep 30 00:03 |
| MinceR | how long until it falls to tiny pieces? 1 year? 2? | Sep 30 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It seems that Dell also charge $150 more for the one that comes with Ubuntu. | Sep 30 00:04 |
| cubexyz | ah, my Dell GX100 still works fine :) | Sep 30 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | So it's cheaper to buy Windows and then format it off the drive. | Sep 30 00:04 |
| MinceR | of course | Sep 30 00:04 |
| MinceR | selling it cheaper by the cost of a winblows license would be the honest thing to do | Sep 30 00:04 |
| cubexyz | 2001 era, original power supply | Sep 30 00:04 |
| MinceR | honesty is not the dHell way | Sep 30 00:04 |
| MinceR | making you pay extra for a turd shaped roughly like a computer and then revealing that there's no warranty is the dHell way | Sep 30 00:05 |
| cubexyz | I emailed Michael Dell for the BIOS source code, but didn't get a reply | Sep 30 00:05 |
| MinceR | as expected | Sep 30 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently, it's cheaper to use Windows. | Sep 30 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | They pay the Windows license, but make their money back and then some with crapware. | Sep 30 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft signs deals with large OEMs. They probably get Windows for $30-40 a copy. | Sep 30 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | Then they offer a crapware free version (signature) for more money. | Sep 30 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that they make you pay as much to get the one without crapware as they would have made off of you if you had registered the crapware. | Sep 30 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with Microsoft to the extent that they say that crapware makes a new computer slower and less reliable. | Sep 30 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Buy they *could* ban it in the Windows license. | Sep 30 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, they let OEMs charge more for PCs that come without it. | Sep 30 00:08 |
| MinceR | why would they do that? | Sep 30 00:08 |
| MinceR | they don't care about customers | Sep 30 00:08 |
| MinceR | all they care about is power and money | Sep 30 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They obviously want to be more like Apple. | Sep 30 00:09 |
| MinceR | they're pretty much the same already | Sep 30 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | They say Windows 10 is the last version of Windows. They're doing this thing like Apple did with "OS X" where it's always OS X now. | Sep 30 00:09 |
| MinceR | m$ and crApple should both be closed down so they can make good on that promise | Sep 30 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | MSFT pulls support for older builds almost immediately now. | Sep 30 00:10 |
| cubexyz | another deficiency of Dell is their BIOS updates, which are windows only | Sep 30 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | They release a few cumulative updates for people who haven't gotten the latest major update to Windows 10, and then drop the previous build. | Sep 30 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, That's not true. | Sep 30 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | They have a BIOS flashing mechanism for Linux. | Sep 30 00:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, it _was_ true | Sep 30 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why it would matter. | Sep 30 00:11 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't trust uefi updates anyway | Sep 30 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | uEFI *should* have an update mechanism from within the firmware setup menu. | Sep 30 00:11 |
| MinceR | any of them could lock out gnu/linux and bsd | Sep 30 00:11 |
| cubexyz | for the Dell GX-110 which I just mentioned | Sep 30 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Some OEMs disable it though. | Sep 30 00:11 |
| MinceR | no, uefi should not exist | Sep 30 00:11 |
| MinceR | the people who came up with it shouldn't have been born | Sep 30 00:12 |
| cubexyz | they wrapped the BIOS image in a windows-32 executable | Sep 30 00:12 |
| MinceR | none of this crap has any business existing in the IT industry, killing it | Sep 30 00:13 |
| MinceR | and killing our society | Sep 30 00:13 |
| cubexyz | there's an msdos version also, so yeah freedos might work | Sep 30 00:15 |
| cubexyz | Phoenix bios I think it was | Sep 30 00:17 |
| cubexyz | guess I could try nagging Phoenix for the BIOS source code | Sep 30 00:25 |
| cubexyz | none of my previous attempts at that were sucessful though | Sep 30 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781629863472009216 | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4 of the Best Linux Distros for Windows Users | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oCSd4po0CJ (www.maketecheasier.com) | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 00:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 4 of the Best Linux Distros for Windows Users - Make Tech Easier | Sep 30 00:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781633754699853824 | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nZDqbgm96x (www.linux.com) | Sep 30 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 00:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google’s Open Source Fuchsia OS: The Mystery Linux Distro | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Sep 30 00:27 | |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-self-driving-cars-are-tremendously-dumb-idea/ | Sep 30 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 Ways Driverless Cars Are Going To Kill Lots Of People | Cracked.com | Sep 30 00:28 | |
| cubexyz | a few years back there were complains about USB 2.0 devices not booting on phoenix bios | Sep 30 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Uber makes you agree that they won't be held liable for death or injury before you can get a ride in a driverless car. | Sep 30 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | What does that tell you? | Sep 30 00:36 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 30 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be taking the bus or the L or Metra. | Sep 30 00:37 |
| MinceR | but it will get worse | Sep 30 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | Uber canceled on us AGAIN the other day. | Sep 30 00:37 |
| MinceR | eventually m$, crApple and ratcrap will get into the business | Sep 30 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then when we brought up the app again, SURGE PRICING was in effect. | Sep 30 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | What a coincidence. | Sep 30 00:37 |
| MinceR | you can guess what will happen then | Sep 30 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Drivers cancel immediately when they see the surge notice because then they can get 2.5 times the normal fare. | Sep 30 00:38 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I want my ride to have literal BSOD | Sep 30 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Uber says it's not allowed, but they are doing it, and kep doing it, and Uber never does anything about it. | Sep 30 00:38 |
| MinceR | it will get much worse than BSOD | Sep 30 00:39 |
| MinceR | they'll ram pedestrians, other cars and buildings | Sep 30 00:39 |
| cubexyz | Phoenix also had HyperSpace and HyperCore, I wonder what happened to that | Sep 30 00:42 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Sep 30 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'en.wikipedihttps:' ( status 0 @ https://en.wikipedihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 ) | Sep 30 00:42 | |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Sep 30 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29a.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 ) | Sep 30 00:43 | |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Sep 30 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | HyperSpace (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Sep 30 00:43 | |
| cubexyz | blah | Sep 30 00:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StuckJake/status/781639819860389888 | Sep 30 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@StuckJake: @schestowitz @DrJillStein Richard stallman eh? do you use KDE or gnome | Sep 30 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | Neither. Openbox. | Sep 30 00:43 |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Sep 30 10:31 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 10:31:30 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 10:31:58 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 30 10:31 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 30 10:31 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 30 10:31 | |
| *Firee has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 11:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781768302213332992 | Sep 30 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS | Sep 30 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sierra Benchmarks https://t.co/g3zFs2JIKg | Sep 30 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Sep 30 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS Sierra Benchmarks - Phoronix | Sep 30 11:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781785898769911808 | Sep 30 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Sep 30 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DU025ga6mp (www.networkworld.com) | Sep 30 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Sep 30 11:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799207581646848 | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DE0TA3uvrT (hackerboards.com) | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Sep 30 11:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799934433439744 | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sierra Benchmarks https://t.co/2CaTfGiwei | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.0 Comes Up Short In Ubuntu 16.04 vs. macOS Sierra Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799935725350912 | Sep 30 11:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Sep 30 11:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2TtmAWEaN3 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXLE: A Linux distro to give new life to old hardware | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:17 | |
| *ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Sep 30 11:17 | |
| *ohama (ohama@cicolina.org) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799936765472768 | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10 reasons why CIOs should consider open source software | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/e5kAmDffIY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 reasons why CIOs should consider open source software | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799938141237248 | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i4eQDl92D0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linaro beams LITE at Internet of Things devices | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781799939168874497 | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.7.6 https://t.co/ljNhDB1TxH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.7.6 | Tux Machines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781800154630328320 | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.7.6 https://t.co/WjvBdIacOV (lwn.net) Linux | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.23 https://t.co/tXZA0DW4BJ (lwn.net) | Sep 30 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.7.6 [LWN.net] | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.4.23 [LWN.net] | Sep 30 11:20 | |
| *Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:32 | |
| *Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 11:55 | |
| *Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 11:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781800861206994944 | Sep 30 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & | Sep 30 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Bucks https://t.co/u34LjtZOne (www.fsf.org) | Sep 30 11:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & GNU Bucks — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | Sep 30 11:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781804094776377344 | Sep 30 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Thank you: Android manufacturers finally listened to | Sep 30 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | users in 2016 https://t.co/YhfhZefV1Q (thenextweb.com) | Sep 30 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Thank you: Android manufacturers finally listened to us in 2016 | Sep 30 11:56 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/j4vxs9O.jpg | Sep 30 12:08 |
| MinceR | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1247056 | Sep 30 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1247056 – Require PulseAudio on Linux | Sep 30 12:17 | |
| MinceR | congratulations mozilla, failfox is now garbage | Sep 30 12:17 |
| cubexyz | I've been using google chrome more lately | Sep 30 12:29 |
| cubexyz | no way should libpulse be a hard dependency, that's silly | Sep 30 12:31 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Sep 30 12:31 |
| cubexyz | so what are the BSDs going to do? | Sep 30 12:34 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Snapzu_Tech favourited 'Thank you: Android manufacturers finally listened to users...' | Sep 30 12:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781819143087616000 | Sep 30 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Just a heads up, Saints Row: The Third on Linux has | Sep 30 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | broken co-op play https://t.co/PwoeWqDwjC (error) | Sep 30 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 12:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/just-a-heads-up-saints-row-the-third-on-linux-has-broken-co-op-play.8215 ) | Sep 30 12:36 | |
| cubexyz | ok, there's evidently a FreeBSD and NetBSD port | Sep 30 12:37 |
| cubexyz | I don't bother running firefox on openbsd anyways | Sep 30 12:39 |
| cubexyz | the openbsd box only as 256 megs of ram | Sep 30 12:39 |
| cubexyz | no libpulse on my older vector box either | Sep 30 12:42 |
| cubexyz | I don't see why firefox would have to use pulse | Sep 30 12:48 |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 12:50 | |
| cubexyz | sebsebseb might be stuck at 512 megs max on that Sun Ultra 5 | Sep 30 13:04 |
| cubexyz | Ultra 10 is probably better... at least it can go 1 gig for ram | Sep 30 13:05 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/y9QapA4 | Sep 30 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The local news is trying to tell us something... - Imgur | Sep 30 13:06 | |
| cubexyz | the PROM monitor operates even when the main OS is halted which is kind of nice | Sep 30 13:13 |
| cubexyz | I wonder how seb will react to no flash :) | Sep 30 13:16 |
| *Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 30 13:18 | |
| razielle_tzu | heh | Sep 30 13:22 |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 13:24:48 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 30 13:24 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 30 13:24 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 30 13:24 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 13:27 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/dd1-19.jpg | Sep 30 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781819936704454656 | Sep 30 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Sundered', a beautiful hand-drawn action game coming to | Sep 30 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux next year https://t.co/jP9UZNJCqJ (error) | Sep 30 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/sundered-a-beautiful-hand-drawn-action-game-coming-to-linux-next-year.8216 ) | Sep 30 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781819961488596993 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rotate different shapes made out of blocks into holes in | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 'Security Hole', now on Linux https://t.co/zftuZCD5Rw | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Sep 30 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/rotate-different-shapes-made-out-of-blocks-into-holes-in-security-hole-now-on-linux.8217 ) | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @eaj followed @tuxmachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836949485031424 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU Bucks https://t.co/h1TAythO1R (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Licensing resource series: Free GNU/Linux distributions & GNU Bucks | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836950953086976 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/UpOG85QRd2 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836952001585152 | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/uyzUegvcyX | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 30 13:44 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/mmwuluU.jpg | Sep 30 14:08 |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Sep 30 14:32 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 14:42 | |
| *XRevan86 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 14:50 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGr3Aeytf3I | Sep 30 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super Street Fighter II - COSPLAY Challengers - YouTube | Sep 30 14:58 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/U5naJm5.jpg | Sep 30 15:20 |
| *dblaber has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | Sep 30 16:02 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/GCZICoS.jpg | Sep 30 16:03 |
| *dblaber (~dmb@pool-71-172-246-73.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836952962076673 | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/4scghizLRK | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781836954233020418 | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Graphics https://t.co/oJcWWeGP1v | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics | Tux Machines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781871106789703680 | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/oYmvfdiSBK | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 30 16:10 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/O2cSW5r | Sep 30 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This app would like to sj with my Google account - Imgur | Sep 30 16:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781873742657880065 | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/6RMkFNuTTE | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Sep 30 16:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/781878348435877888 | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/oYmvfdiSBK | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:30 | |
| *tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:30 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9zirDym.jpg | Sep 30 16:37 |
| *grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.129.63) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/781879087677710340 | Sep 30 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: There's also _long term_ money in erasing history, culture, countries and people, and co-opting their land and reso… https://t.co/hWUj80LD2J | Sep 30 16:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: There's also _long term_ money in erasing history, culture, countries and people, and co-opting their land and reso… https://t.co/hWUj80LD2J | Sep 30 16:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781878782508531712 | Sep 30 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | I think ‘Particle Fleet: Emergence’ just became my new | Sep 30 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux gaming addiction https://t.co/Vfz4PNwrfQ (error) | Sep 30 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/i-think-particle-fleet-emergence-just-became-my-new-linux-gaming-addiction.8219 ) | Sep 30 16:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 16:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 16:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 16:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 17:09 | |
| *grapefroot has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Sep 30 17:18 | |
| *grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.129.63) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:18 | |
| *grapefroot has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) | Sep 30 17:19 | |
| *grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.129.63) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781891471251087362 | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/mrnVQ1CDOE | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 17:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 17:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781891472282968064 | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Spherical Stereo VR https://t.co/IzSBBzEx9g | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 17:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with Spherical Stereo VR | Tux Machines | Sep 30 17:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 17:30 | |
| *pidgin_log (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Sep 30 17:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 17:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines (~squirtbot@ec2-52-87-165-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:38 | |
| *grapefroot has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 17:38 | |
| *grapefroot (~grapefroo@213.87.151.146) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:50 | |
| *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Sep 30 17:51 | |
| *schestowitz (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:52 | |
| *schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Sep 30 17:52 | |
| *schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 17:52 | |
| *grapefroot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 18:08 | |
| MinceR | http://krautchan.net/files/1475240858001.webm | Sep 30 18:09 |
| MinceR | (short-lived link) | Sep 30 18:10 |
| schestowitz | looking | Sep 30 18:29 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oqXVx3sBOk | Sep 30 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blur - Coffee And TV - YouTube | Sep 30 18:29 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wow, water through the electrics | Sep 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz | just seen it | Sep 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz | we have a leak too these days | Sep 30 18:32 |
| schestowitz | coming through window/roof | Sep 30 18:32 |
| MinceR | in the usa, you instead get fossil fuel through the water pipes | Sep 30 18:32 |
| schestowitz | almost impossible to block, we just use a towel when it rains heavily | Sep 30 18:32 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with...' | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909764607401984 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Accelerometers https://t.co/T1jvhbSXDo | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909765681065984 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Purism’s next product could be a smartphone that runs | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/free software https://t.co/n4m74y4Tw4 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Purism’s next product could be a smartphone that runs Linux/free software | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909766763274240 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uECce06Dgd (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| MinceR | convergence of public utilities | Sep 30 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Good Linux Sysadmins Use Markdown | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909768143183872 | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Files in Linux https://t.co/uY0M3LYpkS | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Effectively and Efficiently Edit Configuration Files in Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:33 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/1Jc4PDJ | Sep 30 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I downloaded Trove... - Imgur | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781909769518854144 | Sep 30 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU | Sep 30 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Drivers https://t.co/a8mPKQ20y8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Early Benchmarks Of The Linux 4.9 DRM-Next Radeon/AMDGPU Drivers | Tux Machines | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical...' | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with...' | Sep 30 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: poor value for money | Sep 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | back to work today | Sep 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | for first time since monday :< | Sep 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/fkU5abu.jpg | Sep 30 18:52 |
| *Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 18:52 | |
| *Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 18:53 | |
| *Nazmo_ has quit (Client Quit) | Sep 30 18:53 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: hehe | Sep 30 18:54 |
| schestowitz | I guess that's also why their guns cannot fire | Sep 30 18:54 |
| schestowitz | very faulty planes | Sep 30 18:54 |
| *Nazmo (~nazmi@2a01:e35:2ec3:bdb0:21f:3cff:fed2:5e9f) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | will cost a fortune to make, not just to design | Sep 30 18:54 |
| *Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | what a fraudulent waste | Sep 30 18:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 18:55 |
| *Nazmo_ has quit (Quit: Nazmo_) | Sep 30 19:01 | |
| *Nazmo (~nazmi@82.236.59.219) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 19:05 | |
| *Nazmo is now known as Nazmo_ | Sep 30 19:05 | |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD (~phablet@cpc85430-aztw29-2-0-cust193.18-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 19:16 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ping | Sep 30 19:16 |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 19:22 | |
| cubexyz | I trust google | Sep 30 19:49 |
| cubexyz | who else is making coreboot laptops? | Sep 30 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | That's an interesting start %). | Sep 30 19:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 19:50 |
| MinceR | i have limited trust for google | Sep 30 19:50 |
| cubexyz | I have the source code for the chromebook embedded controller, and it's fully working | Sep 30 19:50 |
| MinceR | nice | Sep 30 19:51 |
| cubexyz | now to do that on a Lenovo X200 requires considerable effort | Sep 30 19:51 |
| *XRevan86 bets Google made a coreboot policy to make it harder to windows Chromebooks. | Sep 30 19:51 | |
| XRevan86 | Not the worst thing to do for sure :). Still. | Sep 30 19:52 |
| cubexyz | well I haven't had the chance to fully test alternatives on chromebooks, for example things like reactos or freedos | Sep 30 19:52 |
| cubexyz | but for freedos old hardware is fine | Sep 30 19:53 |
| *XRevan86 doesn't know how hard it is to make coreboot in Chromebooks to support MBR boot or EFI boot. | Sep 30 19:53 | |
| XRevan86 | s/to support/support/ | Sep 30 19:54 |
| cubexyz | well there's seabios inside coreboot (encapsulated) so in theory you should be able to do freedos | Sep 30 19:54 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I'm sure coreboot flashed in Chromebooks all only support booting the Linux kernel. | Sep 30 19:54 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/SIpORyZ | Sep 30 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apparently my GPU is a bit power hungry... - Imgur | Sep 30 19:54 | |
| MinceR | cubexyz: what about netbsd and openbsd? | Sep 30 19:55 |
| XRevan86 | most probably only a signed one | Sep 30 19:55 |
| cubexyz | it's been done | Sep 30 19:55 |
| cubexyz | not by me though | Sep 30 19:55 |
| cubexyz | there was some issue with suspending as I recall | Sep 30 19:56 |
| cubexyz | https://blog.grem.de/pages/c720.html | Sep 30 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.grem.de | Michael's Daemonic Doodles | Running FreeBSD on the Acer C720 Chromebook | Sep 30 19:56 | |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 30 19:57 |
| MinceR | requires voiding warranty :( | Sep 30 19:58 |
| cubexyz | not at all sure about ARM chromebooks for freedos come to think about it | Sep 30 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | > On the Chrome OS devices that shipped with SeaBIOS, the installation process of Arch Linux should be similar with a few minor adjustments | Sep 30 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | So some have it. And some don't? | Sep 30 19:58 |
| MinceR | then again, looking at dHell, lenovo and others, that may not mean much for long | Sep 30 19:58 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, that's right | Sep 30 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: ARM ones don't use coreboot. | Sep 30 19:58 |
| cubexyz | u-boot I think on those | Sep 30 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, uboot makes sense. | Sep 30 19:59 |
| cubexyz | still GPL :) | Sep 30 19:59 |
| cubexyz | I can live with that | Sep 30 19:59 |
| cubexyz | yes, freedos is strictly x86 | Sep 30 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | As long as it's not tivoised. | Sep 30 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Smartphones are (almost?) all on uboot, still doesn't help them not being tivoised. | Sep 30 20:01 |
| cubexyz | I tested a lot of OSes on Gigabyte GA-6BXC | Sep 30 20:01 |
| cubexyz | that's about as vanilla as you can get | Sep 30 20:01 |
| cubexyz | bah, /me does not use smartphones | Sep 30 20:01 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's ARM world. | Sep 30 20:02 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | cubexyz, to old skool to use a smart phone | Sep 30 20:02 |
| *cubexyz uses landline like the old days | Sep 30 20:02 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | cubexyz, you old foggy | Sep 30 20:02 |
| cubexyz | I even tested ISA cards on coreboot :) | Sep 30 20:03 |
| cubexyz | there wasn't a lot of room on the flash chip for 6BXC... only 256k | Sep 30 20:04 |
| cubexyz | still big enough for coreboot + seabios | Sep 30 20:04 |
| *XRevan86 looks at http://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Libreboot&diff=36377&oldid=36149 | Sep 30 20:08 | |
| XRevan86 | so they don't mind? | Sep 30 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Difference between revisions of "Libreboot" - Free Software Directory [ http://ur1.ca/ptkta ] | Sep 30 20:08 | |
| XRevan86 | I thought they did… | Sep 30 20:08 |
| cubexyz | some binary blobs are actually OK | Sep 30 20:09 |
| cubexyz | vgabios for example... it's well understood | Sep 30 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I mean, FSF don't minding non-GNU Libreboot. | Sep 30 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | s/don't/not/ | Sep 30 20:09 |
| cubexyz | libreboot is GPL though? | Sep 30 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Did you miss all the fuss? %) | Sep 30 20:10 |
| cubexyz | seems like it | Sep 30 20:10 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Person who created and maintained GNU Libreboot accused FSF of firing a person for being transgender. | Sep 30 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: And moved Libreboot out of GNU slash forked GNU Libreboot to Libreboot (depends on the opinion). | Sep 30 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | Comment from RMS: the person fired was also transgendered when hired, so nothing really changed in that respect between hiring and firing. | Sep 30 20:12 |
| *XRevan86 is lazy to find quotes. | Sep 30 20:13 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: So now Libreboot is a controversial piece of software %). | Sep 30 20:13 |
| XRevan86 | And despite the fact that GNU declared that GNU Libreboot will still be maintained, I can't find an actual repo. | Sep 30 20:14 |
| XRevan86 | > some binary blobs are actually OK | Sep 30 20:17 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: So without even taking that into consideration, Libreboot is pretty much out of the picture. | Sep 30 20:17 |
| MinceR | so non-GNU libreboot is not fully libre now? | Sep 30 20:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It is, it's just maintained by a very emotional character. | Sep 30 20:19 |
| cubexyz | ah, yes I can say we are working on reverse-engineering some old "binary blobs" on early Unix | Sep 30 20:20 |
| cubexyz | there is no choice in the matter, unless by some miracule more source code is discovered... it's lost | Sep 30 20:20 |
| cubexyz | and there's other wrinkles like emulated VGABIOS that only works in Plex86 or Bochs | Sep 30 20:22 |
| cubexyz | sometimes there's no choice in the matter | Sep 30 20:23 |
| cubexyz | I'm a bit stumped on a couple of binaries... azel, sky and some early versions of more | Sep 30 20:24 |
| cubexyz | oh yeah fc0 was missing... but restored later on | Sep 30 20:25 |
| cubexyz | most of the missing source code for Unix v5 was filled in by using Unix v6 code | Sep 30 20:26 |
| cubexyz | fc0 was for floating point emulation | Sep 30 20:29 |
| cubexyz | so the blob rule isn't absolute | Sep 30 20:29 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 30 20:30 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: They can become a problem, and that's all FSF needs. | Sep 30 20:34 |
| cubexyz | so stuff like sqrt, pow, gamma, exp wouldn't compile without fc0 on a PDP-11 without hardware for floating point support | Sep 30 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | blobs, I mean | Sep 30 20:35 |
| cubexyz | right, I'm just reviewing my thoughts here :) | Sep 30 20:36 |
| cubexyz | new blobs are a problem... old blobs not so much | Sep 30 20:36 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Some people say new proprietary software is a problem, old p.s. not so much. | Sep 30 20:37 |
| XRevan86 | and I tend to agree | Sep 30 20:37 |
| cubexyz | I didn't have a FOSS BIOS until late 2010 | Sep 30 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, in the sense of using it. | Sep 30 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | Old unmaintained software is generally a problem. | Sep 30 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | and old proprietary software is always unmaintained | Sep 30 20:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37818-seven-popular-foods-that-might-disappear-because-of-climate-change | Sep 30 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truth-out.org | Seven Popular Foods That Might Disappear Because of Climate Change | Sep 30 20:39 | |
| cubexyz | well someone might have the source code for a program and not give it out | Sep 30 20:39 |
| cubexyz | they signed the NDA etc etc | Sep 30 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Proprietary software have EULAs | Sep 30 20:40 |
| cubexyz | you've lost your old development environment, you got no time to go back and work on it... it just languishes | Sep 30 20:41 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Having source code of some software even abandoned is covered by a term "piracy" | Sep 30 20:41 |
| XRevan86 | in a violation of the EULA | Sep 30 20:41 |
| cubexyz | except I've put a ton of effort into maintaining the older programming environments for stuff that interests me | Sep 30 20:41 |
| cubexyz | yeah but they just sit on the code and don't tell anyone :) | Sep 30 20:42 |
| cubexyz | who's going to know? | Sep 30 20:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's their right by the law. | Sep 30 20:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Although I'm not sure what you mean. | Sep 30 20:42 |
| cubexyz | ok... let's say you worked on a game | Sep 30 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | If you're the developer, you are the proprieter. | Sep 30 20:43 |
| cubexyz | you get paid for it, but you technically don't own the rights, but you keep the code | Sep 30 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Well, that's illegal. | Sep 30 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If the rights owner will ask you to remove them, you have to comply. | Sep 30 20:44 |
| XRevan86 | > who's going to know? | Sep 30 20:50 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: And that… you can get sources of Windows 2000 and do nothing with them. | Sep 30 20:50 |
| cubexyz | sure | Sep 30 20:50 |
| XRevan86 | If nobody will find out, nobody will sue you %). | Sep 30 20:50 |
| cubexyz | hosted in Russia if I recall :) | Sep 30 20:50 |
| XRevan86 | I remember they were torrented on TPB. | Sep 30 20:51 |
| XRevan86 | thus hosted everywhere | Sep 30 20:51 |
| cubexyz | what's the alternative? Orphaned software is lost forever? | Sep 30 20:52 |
| cubexyz | and eventually that copyright will expire | Sep 30 20:53 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's the fate of proprietary software. | Sep 30 20:53 |
| XRevan86 | does it? | Sep 30 20:53 |
| cubexyz | 50 years after the author dies | Sep 30 20:54 |
| cubexyz | I admit, it's too long but that's the rule | Sep 30 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: In a hundred years software becomes extremely irrelevant. | Sep 30 20:56 |
| cubexyz | 1916? there's nothing :) | Sep 30 20:57 |
| cubexyz | we haven't even got close to 100 years yet | Sep 30 20:57 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: But software that is 30 years old is already irrelevant. | Sep 30 20:57 |
| XRevan86 | if 30 years is irrelevance then what's 100 years? | Sep 30 20:57 |
| cubexyz | ah, it's not irrelevant to me | Sep 30 20:58 |
| cubexyz | I wrote some stuff 30 years ago | Sep 30 20:58 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Well, you have hardware from that era, right? | Sep 30 20:58 |
| cubexyz | yes | Sep 30 20:58 |
| XRevan86 | and you practically need something compatible for it | Sep 30 20:58 |
| cubexyz | historians? :) | Sep 30 20:59 |
| cubexyz | so yeah it gets emulated on newer hardware | Sep 30 20:59 |
| cubexyz | I don't have a real PDP-11 but I still program for it | Sep 30 20:59 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That's creepy. | Sep 30 21:00 |
| *sheepbat has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | Sep 30 21:00 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Ah, you mean, because you're into that? | Sep 30 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | for historians everything's relevant %) | Sep 30 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | even flappy bird clones for ios | Sep 30 21:01 |
| cubexyz | there's The Historical Unix Society or TUHS, I'm a member :) | Sep 30 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That explains a lot :D | Sep 30 21:01 |
| cubexyz | for example ...a working IBM 2310 would be very hard to get | Sep 30 21:02 |
| cubexyz | so it was emulated, the software can still run | Sep 30 21:03 |
| cubexyz | not too long ago I ported the gamma function to amiga | Sep 30 21:03 |
| XRevan86 | Historians are a big exception in the definition of relevance %) | Sep 30 21:03 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/bmLIPm3.jpg | Sep 30 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Didn't they also create tonnes of problems for users? | Sep 30 21:06 |
| MinceR | they did | Sep 30 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | People shouldn't care about it, they also shouldn't care about their OS working at all. | Sep 30 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | Computer is an illusion, let it go. | Sep 30 21:07 |
| cubexyz | I thought it was very interesting I could port an old piece of software for the gamma function originally intended for Vax-11/780 to a 68000 based amiga | Sep 30 21:07 |
| cubexyz | I guess the oldest hardware (emulated) I actually use is IBM 1130 | Sep 30 21:13 |
| cubexyz | that's 1965 era | Sep 30 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Doesn't emulating remove most of the fun? | Sep 30 21:16 |
| cubexyz | not really | Sep 30 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | Or maybe I think that because I don't find old software charming… | Sep 30 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | old hardware is an other thing %) | Sep 30 21:18 |
| cubexyz | a real IBM 1130 would take up a lot of room | Sep 30 21:18 |
| cubexyz | a real PDP-11/45 would eat up a lot of current | Sep 30 21:18 |
| cubexyz | compiling the kernel on a real PDP-11/45 would be very slow, etc etc | Sep 30 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Random question: what do you think of Nokia N900? | Sep 30 21:23 |
| cubexyz | I've heard of it | Sep 30 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | Should be sort of interesting for a UNIX historian :). | Sep 30 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | maemo phone | Sep 30 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | Debian | Sep 30 21:24 |
| cubexyz | well if it supported X11 I'd probably buy one | Sep 30 21:25 |
| cubexyz | I assume Nokia stopped making Linux devices? | Sep 30 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Nokia stopped making devices. | Sep 30 21:26 |
| cubexyz | used the same package manager as the zaurus | Sep 30 21:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I think it does have X11. | Sep 30 21:28 |
| XRevan86 | not sure | Sep 30 21:28 |
| cubexyz | yeah there was some talk of X forwarding over ssh | Sep 30 21:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's not a very practical device these days, of course. | Sep 30 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | but historical for sure :) | Sep 30 21:30 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think MinceR talked about it years ago | Sep 30 21:31 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 21:31 | |
| XRevan86 | or rather not practical at all | Sep 30 21:32 |
| XRevan86 | it can make calls though | Sep 30 21:32 |
| cubexyz | I still use the zaurus as an ereader | Sep 30 21:32 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: ereader? with that screen? | Sep 30 21:33 |
| cubexyz | yeah it's pretty small :) | Sep 30 21:33 |
| cubexyz | I use my reading glasses so it's not too bad | Sep 30 21:33 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Actually, I was addressing DPI and colour quality %). | Sep 30 21:34 |
| *XRevan86 does ereading on 4'' | Sep 30 21:35 | |
| cubexyz | I ported a bunch of stuff to zaurus a while back | Sep 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: does ublock origin work with pale moon? | Sep 30 21:36 |
| cubexyz | units, file, bc, ncurses, binutils, procps, rsync, etc | Sep 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | emulating is a lot of fun, at least with dosbox | Sep 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | you get an environment that's pretty portable yet it looks the same for the stuff running in it | Sep 30 21:37 |
| cubexyz | back in 2009 :) | Sep 30 21:37 |
| MinceR | plus console emulators give you abilities no console ever had | Sep 30 21:37 |
| XRevan86 | Hail snes9x (although it's non-free) | Sep 30 21:38 |
| cubexyz | haha, I can remember when atari 2600 first came out | Sep 30 21:39 |
| cubexyz | oooo so awesome ;) | Sep 30 21:39 |
| cubexyz | Christmas 1977 | Sep 30 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes it doees. | Sep 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | *does | Sep 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | nice | Sep 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, higan is better if you have the hardware for it. | Sep 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | also, when you mentioned that e10s consumed a lot of resources, was that on windows or on some free unix? | Sep 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's ~400 times more accurate than snes9x, but requires a decent computer. | Sep 30 21:41 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: How decent? | Sep 30 21:41 |
| cubexyz | ok Super Nintendo you could just buy one :) | Sep 30 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Should be across the board. Mozilla said 20% without specifying an OS. | Sep 30 21:41 |
| cubexyz | it's not _that_ old and they made millions of them | Sep 30 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Might be +/- a little by platform, but not much. | Sep 30 21:41 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | i expected it to be far more costly on winblows | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | as the NT kernel makes processes super expensive | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | while processes are cheap on unix | Sep 30 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why? Firefox uses a similar amount of RAM on each platform. | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | ask m$ :> | Sep 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | they came up with svchost | Sep 30 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's not as expensive as it once was. | Sep 30 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Windows has compressed memory support now. | Sep 30 21:43 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 30 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | It uses it where it makes sense. | Sep 30 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | So if you have 10 instances of the same code running, that's an easy one. | Sep 30 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, There are a lot of exceptions for Windows services now where they run in svchost, but a different instance of it. | Sep 30 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Intel Core i5 decent? | Sep 30 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, Which generation? | Sep 30 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | There have been like 6 generations and they're quite different even though they have the same name. | Sep 30 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Okay, I see :D | Sep 30 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I have an ultra low voltage i7-6560U and it runs fine. | Sep 30 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | 60 fps all the time | Sep 30 21:47 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Sep 30 21:48 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 21:49 | |
| DaemonFC | The design of the current Intel mobile platform is good, but they won't provide much documentation for it, so Linux is woefully behind. | Sep 30 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | You have to get several components into power save mode or the whole power saving system is compromised. | Sep 30 21:50 |
| MinceR | where are the amd laptops? | Sep 30 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Lost Vikings 2 works with ~45 FPS | Sep 30 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | htop shows 87% CPU load | Sep 30 21:51 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Rltpcpx.jpg | Sep 30 21:51 |
| *DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 21:51 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I see Higan is very power-hungry | Sep 30 21:52 |
| DaemonFC` | It would be. It works one of your CPU cores pretty hard. | Sep 30 21:52 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Disconnected by services) | Sep 30 21:53 | |
| *DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Sep 30 21:53 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A thought occured while reading all those kickass facts | Sep 30 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | It can run SNES games without bugs that appear due to inaccurate emulation in other emulators. | Sep 30 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: People actually start believing in god because of these things %). | Sep 30 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the most popular games have hacks to get around known bugs with snes9x | Sep 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | cargo cults | Sep 30 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: More like "Coincidence? I think not!" | Sep 30 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's an interesting thing how humans like to find correlation and meaning in things. | Sep 30 21:56 |
| MinceR | too bad neither MAF nor UnMHT supports Pale Moon | Sep 30 22:47 |
| MinceR | ah, there's a MAF fork | Sep 30 22:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Blender 2.78 Open-Source 3D Graphics Software Released with...' | Sep 30 23:12 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/HPWo49q.jpg | Sep 30 23:15 |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 23:29:27 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 30 23:29 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Sep 30 23:29 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Sep 30 23:29 | |
| *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Sep 30 23:31 | |
| *sheepbat (~lev3k@46.21.154.83) has joined #techrights | Sep 30 23:42 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've been using a recent testing build of Pale Moon 27. It's gettin much better. | Sep 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, some of the extensions fron Firefox _don't_ work | Sep 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Https Everywhere for example. | Sep 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if they plan to make a version of that for Microsoft Edge. | Sep 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | They could port their Chrome extension with minimal effort. Change a few lines. Change chrome to ms-browser in a few places. Done. | Sep 30 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is basically trying to clone Webkit. | Sep 30 23:51 |
| MinceR | well, at least the crashes will be easy to clone | Sep 30 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | They said their goal with EdgeHTML is to behave exactly like Webkit in rendering pages, and they copied Chrome's extension system. | Sep 30 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chrome actually uses Blink now, but Blink is really kind of a rolling fork. | Sep 30 23:52 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | apparently i'll need Blink for WebRTC, as CrashKit doesn't seem to support it | Sep 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | or maybe i just have an ancient version of it | Sep 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apple doesn't use a very recent version of Webkit. | Sep 30 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | In Safari. | Sep 30 23:54 |
| MinceR | pretty much all i'm missing now is the Scroll Progress extension | Sep 30 23:54 |
| MinceR | which mozilla denies ever existed | Sep 30 23:54 |
| MinceR | i don't have safari | Sep 30 23:55 |
| MinceR | i have midori and rekonq | Sep 30 23:55 |
| MinceR | maybe other stuff | Sep 30 23:55 |
| MinceR | i wonder if chromium will keep supporting ALSA | Sep 30 23:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/781980040527355904 | Sep 30 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated | Sep 30 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes https://t.co/X4FjmHzile | Sep 30 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Sep 30 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sep 30 23:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ownCloud Desktop Client 2.2.4 Released with Updated Dolphin Plugin, Bug Fixes | Tux Machines | Sep 30 23:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/arion212112/status/781985733557030912 | Oct 01 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, | Oct 01 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @arion212112 Better Accelerometers https://t.co/T1jvhbSXDo | Oct 01 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 00:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Tux Machines | Oct 01 00:00 | |
| XRevan86 | >Cinnamon 3.2 in Linux Mint 18.1 Supports Vertical Panels, Better Accelerometers | Oct 01 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(layout_engine) | Oct 01 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Servo (layout engine) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ptlrp ] | Oct 01 00:00 | |
| XRevan86 | ugh, ugh | Oct 01 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/releases | Oct 01 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Releases · linuxmint/Cinnamon · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/ptlrr ] | Oct 01 00:01 | |
| XRevan86 | Where's the thing? | Oct 01 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Mozilla is working on a new rendering engine called Servo. | Oct 01 00:01 |
| MinceR | well, it isn't difficult to make something worse than gecko | Oct 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | managed to install Scroll Progress from the file :> | Oct 01 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apple wrote to KDE to Kongratulate them ;) about how khtml and kjs were only about 100,000 source lines of code, and to say that Gecko was too bloated for their Safari browser to use. | Oct 01 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Today, Webkit is actually bigger than Gecko. | Oct 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 01 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Matthew Garrett was talking about LightDM about a couple of years ago. | Oct 01 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | He said that "light" means you don't understand the problem the original was trying to solve, most of the time. | Oct 01 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Like, you end up being 90% of the size of the project you were replacing and you crash more because it's all new code. | Oct 01 00:10 |
| *Emchan_alt is now known as Emchan | Oct 01 00:10 | |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 01 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | In the LightDM case, he compared it with GDM, which loads gnome-session. He said that it was to gain access to GNOME's power and accessibility policies. | Oct 01 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Without that, GDM has to implement their own and it beccomes inconsistent. | Oct 01 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that LightDM was a good idea. I don't think that Mir was a good idea. I don't think that a lot of the things Ubuntu set out to do are good ideas. | Oct 01 00:12 |
| cubexyz | sorry, but some DMs used much less memory than others | Oct 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | i don't think that any of the DMs that depend on systemd-logind are good ideas | Oct 01 00:12 |
| cubexyz | it's quite noticeable | Oct 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | startx is better than all of them anyway | Oct 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | it can do everything they can do, and more | Oct 01 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | I railed about Indicators at one point. I said that they basically replace existing functionality, you can't right-click on them, you have to patch every application to use them because upstream probably won't. | Oct 01 00:12 |
| cubexyz | 4.5 megs for icewm... 200 megs for KDE | Oct 01 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | And all of that turned out to be....true. | Oct 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | and it's lighter than all of them | Oct 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: also, some distros actually break applications' systray support | Oct 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | via patches | Oct 01 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME was considering making Indicators a part of GNOME, which would have at least been better, because then the upstreams would say "Hey look! We should support this.'. | Oct 01 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | But they didn't beccause of Canonical's CLA. | Oct 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | they shouldn't | Oct 01 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: LightDM is pretty nice. | Oct 01 00:14 |
| MinceR | it's incompatible for the sake of being incompatible | Oct 01 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | not light though | Oct 01 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah, now you have two sets of code in each app. | Oct 01 00:14 |
| cubexyz | not saying everyone has to use ratpoison, but come on... KDE and Gnome are bloated now | Oct 01 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | To deal with two different ways of putting an icon in the system tray. | Oct 01 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | And with Indicators, you lose the right-click menu. | Oct 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | lightdm depends on systemd, doesn't it? | Oct 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | => into the trash it goes | Oct 01 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | I think that people who want Ubuntu-compatibility for easy acccess to apps should just load Kubuntu, which is staying out of this mess. | Oct 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | (also, it's not light by a long shot) | Oct 01 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical mostly fucks up on the GUI, which is all in Unity. | Oct 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | canonical fucks up everything they touch | Oct 01 00:15 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/compare-all-wms.png | Oct 01 00:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I don't think it is. | Oct 01 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Can you get it from the trash for while I'm checking? | Oct 01 00:17 |
| MinceR | well, the gentoo ebuild said "inherit [...] systemd" | Oct 01 00:17 |
| *XRevan86 opened http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk/view/head:/configure.ac | Oct 01 00:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bazaar.launchpad.net | ~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk : contents of configure.ac at revision 2403 | Oct 01 00:17 | |
| cubexyz | surely you can build it without systemd stuff? | Oct 01 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | oddly enough, I mentions of neither systemd-login nor consolekit | Oct 01 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | Debian's package dependency says: libpam-systemd or consolekit | Oct 01 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's implemented in runtime | Oct 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | not that i'm terribly fond of consolekit | Oct 01 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcoms-extradition-appeal-concludes-160928/ | Oct 01 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kim Dotcom's Extradition Appeal Concludes, Will He Get a "Fair Go"? - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/ptbph ] | Oct 01 00:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 01 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 01 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the United States wouldn't give him an unfair trial....I mean, of course it would. | Oct 01 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | This is the same country that takes a Turkish date farmer and imprisons him forever in Guantanamo Bay and tortures him, having decided to keep him in prison forever, the only question being if there's going to be a "trial" somewhere along the way. | Oct 01 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | In the case of MegaUpload, Mr. Dotcom was fully in compliance with the US DMCA law, but that didn't matter. The MPAA had the US government raid and destroy his business anyway. | Oct 01 00:25 |
| XRevan86 | And GDM on the other hand depends on GNOME Shell. | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, looks like it settles for consolekit | Oct 01 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | So in 2016 comparing LightDM and GDM is weird. | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | startx, on the other hand, requires neither :> | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | wow, GDM has gone to shit | Oct 01 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | GDM is just for GNOME. | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | then again, it's to be expected | Oct 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | now i remember poettering wanting GDM to essentially run a whole gnome desktop | Oct 01 00:27 |
| MinceR | because otherwise you hate blind people | Oct 01 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | And LightDM is a DM, it works, has nice frontends. Not very light again, but I guess that's no longer the point. | Oct 01 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-we-cant-stop-pirate-sites-160927/ | Oct 01 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cloudflare: We Can't Shut Down Pirate Sites - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/pt8ig ] | Oct 01 00:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 01 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Oct 01 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not wild about Cloudflare anyway. For one thing, sites that use them for Distributed Denial of Service Attack protection will fail to load in your web browser if you have Javascript turns off. | Oct 01 00:27 |
| MinceR | in a world where most DMs try to force Lendows on you, it no longer matters | Oct 01 00:28 |
| MinceR | cloudflare also blocks tor, afaik | Oct 01 00:28 |
| MinceR | which sucks | Oct 01 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | There's also SDDM which I didn't fairly try… | Oct 01 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Tor has a security slider now. | Oct 01 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's set to Low by default. I recommend Medium-High in general. | Oct 01 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | On High, basically everything is broken by default. On Low, there's too many ways a site can attack the browser and de-anonymize you. | Oct 01 00:29 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | i've read about it recently | Oct 01 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | And even though LightDM is maintained by Ubuntu guys, it's fine. That's the biggest surprise here. | Oct 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | the way things are going, they'll break it eventually | Oct 01 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They kinda did. But then something happened and they fixed it all. | Oct 01 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | They made ayatana indicators a requirement for some features in the gtk-greeter. | Oct 01 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | And then they didn't | Oct 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | well, at least this debacle made me rediscover startx and realize that i can indeed select session types with it | Oct 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | especially on funtoo/gentoo, where an envvar determines which one to start | Oct 01 00:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, you finally made your way to Gentoo? :) | Oct 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | but i can emulate that behavior elsewhere too by writing an appropriate .xsession | Oct 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | well, i investigated funtoo and gentoo-prefix again | Oct 01 00:35 |
| MinceR | my test VM has a gentoo RAP in it, under Devuan, which seems to work | Oct 01 00:35 |
| MinceR | but i want to test something on Bedrock again | Oct 01 00:35 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/humboldt-fraktur-font.png | Oct 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | the above startx behavior i found out on my funtoo VM | Oct 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | what's the executable name for this Font Viewer? | Oct 01 00:37 |
| cubexyz | that's kfontview | Oct 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | ah, thanks | Oct 01 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Bedrock? | Oct 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | Bedrock Linux | Oct 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | http://bedrocklinux.org/ | Oct 01 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bedrocklinux.org | Bedrock Linux | Oct 01 00:38 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, that weird thing. | Oct 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 01 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What video player is in the tray? | Oct 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, i was looking for ways to have its functionality without actually using it | Oct 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | which is what led me to Nix and Gentoo Prefix/RAP, among other things | Oct 01 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: not-SMPlayer + SMTube | Oct 01 00:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Nix is still a thing? | Oct 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | it doesn't work perfectly though | Oct 01 00:41 |
| cubexyz | that's gnome-mplayer | Oct 01 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe at least you know what's the difference between Nix and Guix | Oct 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | vaguely | Oct 01 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I was afraid you'll say that | Oct 01 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's practically dead | Oct 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | hm, maybe i should give Guix a try as well | Oct 01 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | and doesn't support mpv | Oct 01 00:42 |
| cubexyz | I barely even use it :) | Oct 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | does Guix work without GuixSD? | Oct 01 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yes | Oct 01 00:43 |
| cubexyz | I normally just use mplayer from the terminal | Oct 01 00:43 |
| MinceR | nice | Oct 01 00:43 |
| *XRevan86 gived an oath of faith to MPV because MPlayer lack VA-API support. | Oct 01 00:43 | |
| XRevan86 | lacks* | Oct 01 00:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 01 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | also A/V sync in mplayer doesn't work good | Oct 01 00:43 |
| cubexyz | oh another fork... how unexpected :) | Oct 01 00:44 |
| *MinceR just uses VLC after way too much struggling with broken mplayer and xine frontends | Oct 01 00:44 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You mean phonon fronends? | Oct 01 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | frontends | Oct 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | no, GUIs | Oct 01 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: SMPlayer is nice. | Oct 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | every single one of them a unique snowflake | Oct 01 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | Ugly by default (and that illness progresses in time) but configurable | Oct 01 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | * with time | Oct 01 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | so it's possible to neutralise the ugliness | Oct 01 00:45 |
| cubexyz | I have smplayer also | Oct 01 00:46 |
| cubexyz | vector linux just puts gnome-mplayer in icewm as a default | Oct 01 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Another one of those Slackware based ones, eh? | Oct 01 00:47 |
| cubexyz | yes | Oct 01 00:47 |
| MinceR | oh, and mplayer quitting at the end of a video | Oct 01 00:48 |
| MinceR | that was a lot of fun too | Oct 01 00:49 |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Oct 01 01:04 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 1 01:04:13 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 1 01:04:39 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Oct 01 01:04 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Oct 01 01:04 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 01 01:04 | |
| cubexyz | libass >= 0.12.1 not found | Oct 01 01:07 |
| *XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Oct 01 01:08 | |
| cubexyz | ok, this is going to take a while | Oct 01 01:12 |
| *Firee has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Oct 01 01:14 | |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 01 01:19 |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 01:35 | |
| XRevan86 | Had an Internet problem. | Oct 01 01:35 |
| XRevan86 | Now good night %). | Oct 01 01:35 |
| MinceR | gn XRevan86 | Oct 01 01:35 |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has left #techrights | Oct 01 01:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Visionssucheche/status/781950107684052992 | Oct 01 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Visionssucheche: https://t.co/USGQZpRNSO Morton County Sheriff's Department gets it own new tv program https://t.co/zIkMVJI7gB | Oct 01 01:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Morton County Sheriff's Department - YouTube | Oct 01 01:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Morton County Sheriff's Department announces arrest warrants against people in #facebook - as if Facebook and #police separate entities? | Oct 01 01:36 | |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Oct 01 08:09 | |
| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 1 08:09:31 2016 | ||
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 1 08:09:54 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Oct 01 08:09 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Oct 01 08:09 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 01 08:09 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.geek.com/apple/phil-schiller-thinks-its-sad-that-people-use-5-year-old-computers-1650316/ | Oct 01 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Phil Schiller thinks it’s sad that people use 5-year-old computers | Apple | Geek.com | Oct 01 09:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | 2 mins · | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that by the time Apple releases new Macs, they're a full generation behind the PCs and about 40% more expensive. | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that Apple abandons computers that are only 5 years old, that people are still using, that could run almost all new software, and can if people load Linux on them. | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that Apple thinks that installing software on your phone or tablet from outside their app store (possible through Jailbreaking) is a "bug" or "vulnerability". We used to call things that let you do that a "computer". | Oct 01 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's sad that anyone buys Apple products. | Oct 01 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782111820433752064 | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BUS1, The Successor To KDBUS, Formally Unveiled -- Aiming | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Mainline Linux Kernel https://t.co/L6UTdC8iBJ | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BUS1, The Successor To KDBUS, Formally Unveiled -- Aiming For Mainline Linux Kernel - Phoronix | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782133505660690432 | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CJg6sym1ST (techrights.org) | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Techrights | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782135292224376832 | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/rD4E8r4pKj | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Oct 01 09:29 | |
| schestowitz | bbl | Oct 01 09:32 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 01 09:36 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 09:37 | |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 1 09:46:50 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 01 09:46 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Oct 01 09:50 | |
| *XRevan86 (~user@89.22.234.33) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 09:52 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 01 10:30 | |
| *Firee (~Firee@unaffiliated/firee) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 10:43 | |
| cubexyz | ideally you want no M$, no Apple, no AMI (this is a tough one), and source code for everything | Oct 01 12:27 |
| cubexyz | AMI is not your friend... not unless you got $10K to license the BIOS | Oct 01 12:28 |
| cubexyz | and that's the _minimum_ amount | Oct 01 12:28 |
| cubexyz | the BIOS game has largely been rigged since the IBM AT 286 | Oct 01 12:29 |
| cubexyz | the good news is the 1998-1999 BIOS code is pretty much in the wild | Oct 01 12:48 |
| XRevan86 | > the good news is the 1998-1999 BIOS code is pretty much in the wild | Oct 01 12:49 |
| XRevan86 | If one doesn't need a specific BIOS for a specific model then there are SeaBIOS and TianoCore in the wild as well. | Oct 01 12:49 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Or do you mean BIOS for a specific PC mention of which I missed? | Oct 01 12:50 |
| cubexyz | ah, I got a lot of old stuff... I'm trying to match it up to the code I have | Oct 01 12:51 |
| cubexyz | award 1999... i810-NS366 | Oct 01 12:52 |
| cubexyz | seabios is fine, but it only takes you so far | Oct 01 12:54 |
| cubexyz | for an old slot 1 motherboard... looks very promising | Oct 01 13:00 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/KVszmjV.jpg | Oct 01 13:06 |
| cubexyz | does vi map upper-case filenames to lower case? | Oct 01 13:10 |
| cubexyz | something odd is going on here | Oct 01 13:10 |
| cubexyz | is that a vfat thing? | Oct 01 13:13 |
| cubexyz | must be | Oct 01 13:13 |
| cubexyz | never noticed that before | Oct 01 13:13 |
| MinceR | if vi did that, it would be unable to open some files :> | Oct 01 13:14 |
| cubexyz | create CAT.TXT on a vfat partition | Oct 01 13:15 |
| cubexyz | then vi cat.txt | Oct 01 13:15 |
| cubexyz | ummm, maybe I mean the other way around... create cat.txt then vi CAT.TXT | Oct 01 13:16 |
| cubexyz | either way it works | Oct 01 13:17 |
| cubexyz | not on ext2 of course | Oct 01 13:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: REM sleep? | Oct 01 13:17 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 01 13:19 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: yes, [v]fat is case insensitive | Oct 01 13:19 |
| XRevan86 | $ touch CAT.txt; vi cat.txt | Oct 01 13:19 |
| XRevan86 | $ ls | Oct 01 13:19 |
| XRevan86 | cat.txt | Oct 01 13:19 |
| MinceR | which is a whole can of worms | Oct 01 13:19 |
| MinceR | naturally, HFS+ (or whatever it's called) on OSuX is also case insensitive | Oct 01 13:20 |
| cubexyz | right, it seems obvious now :) | Oct 01 13:20 |
| MinceR | strangely enough, it isn't on hypeOS | Oct 01 13:20 |
| XRevan86 | vfat is not *that* case insensitive | Oct 01 13:20 |
| MinceR | i guess that's how they met their quota of 'there must be 1 thing in your mobile OS that's slightly less braindead than your desktop OS' | Oct 01 13:20 |
| XRevan86 | but vim just uses the filename that was supplied to it | Oct 01 13:20 |
| MinceR | winblows mobile picked eliminating drive letters to fill that quota | Oct 01 13:20 |
| XRevan86 | if you create CAT.txt and then edit cat.txt and save, CAT.txt will be renamed to cat.txt | Oct 01 13:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What is that (REM sleep)? | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | well, it's both case insensitive and case-preserving | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | vfat, that is | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it's the stage of your sleep in which you dream, afaik | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | Rapid Eye Movement | Oct 01 13:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ah | Oct 01 13:21 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/owv5tDa.jpg | Oct 01 13:29 |
| *acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 13:31 | |
| *acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Oct 01 13:33 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe it was a bad fish | Oct 01 13:38 |
| schestowitz | maybe just a bad overnment | Oct 01 13:38 |
| cubexyz | superfish! | Oct 01 13:38 |
| MinceR | nah, justcommiethings | Oct 01 13:38 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/La51ClA.jpg | Oct 01 13:39 |
| MinceR | also justcommiethings | Oct 01 13:39 |
| cubexyz | I remember some motherboards couldn't use certain CDROMs | Oct 01 13:42 |
| cubexyz | the CDROM was too fast, so it wouldn't work right | Oct 01 13:42 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/OmhC3YL.jpg | Oct 01 13:45 |
| cubexyz | I had a heck of a time with Minix and some hardware | Oct 01 13:46 |
| cubexyz | I did a study on which floppy drives would work as a replacement drive for the amiga | Oct 01 13:51 |
| cubexyz | may as well put it in the log: | Oct 01 13:51 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/amiga-drives.txt | Oct 01 13:51 |
| cubexyz | before I forget | Oct 01 13:51 |
| cubexyz | anyways, I learned a bit more about the IRDA | Oct 01 14:02 |
| cubexyz | there was FIR (serial, slowest), MIR (medium) and FIR (fastest) | Oct 01 14:04 |
| cubexyz | kind of confusing too since there is also ConsumerIR or CIR | Oct 01 14:04 |
| cubexyz | CIR is for remote controls | Oct 01 14:05 |
| cubexyz | an unstandardized mess | Oct 01 14:05 |
| cubexyz | IRDA with it's incredible range of 100 cm | Oct 01 14:08 |
| MinceR | < mst> GIANT ASTEROID 2K16 | Oct 01 14:13 |
| MinceR | < perigrin> mst: make glaciers great again | Oct 01 14:13 |
| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/54eh1a/nobody_can_print_anymore/d81edjo | Oct 01 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | zurohki comments on Nobody can print anymore! | Oct 01 14:40 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: printers are a waste of material and space | Oct 01 14:52 |
| schestowitz | rianne uses one only cause she has to | Oct 01 14:52 |
| schestowitz | I've not had a printer since the 90s | Oct 01 14:52 |
| schestowitz | she need em for labels to be printer (no other option) | Oct 01 14:53 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 01 14:57 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/invasive-species | Oct 01 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Invasive Species [ http://ur1.ca/ptpqr ] | Oct 01 15:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782192569316958208 | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/CJg6sym1ST (techrights.org) | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222192113135616 | Oct 01 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/10/2016: Linux 4.7.6 and 4.4.23, Blender 2.78 | Techrights | Oct 01 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trainline creates open source platform to help developers | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | deploy apps and environments in AWS | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4UuCgcgEak (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trainline creates open source platform to help developers deploy apps and environments in AWS | Tux Machines | Oct 01 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222193715326976 | Oct 01 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi PIXEL and More Improvements | Oct 01 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FKcoqLCyVO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi PIXEL and More Improvements | Tux Machines | Oct 01 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222194797481984 | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/9c7XklADEO | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222195946729473 | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/FOSS Events https://t.co/x1BtKkuVEK | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/FOSS Events | Tux Machines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782222197142106113 | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/JtdQ6QW8wR | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 01 16:13 | |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 1 16:16:54 2016 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | Oct 01 16:16 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Oct 01 16:16 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 01 16:16 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/IfMVlfp | Oct 01 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Optional input is required - Imgur | Oct 01 16:18 | |
| *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | Oct 01 16:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @magicbrad favourited 'Linux Unable To Boot Lenovo Yoga 900 &...' | Oct 01 17:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782250164488704000 | Oct 01 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/QejAZkopiw | Oct 01 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 17:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 01 17:15 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/getting-high | Oct 01 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Getting High | Oct 01 17:26 | |
| *pidgin_log (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/782252518738984960 | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/QejAZkopiw | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 17:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782254971463016448 | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The Wine development release 1.9.20 is now available." | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6hC1FaZpuh (www.winehq.org) | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3sMpsU5YTb (www.phoronix.com) | Oct 01 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 17:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 1.9.20 is now available. | Oct 01 17:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 1.9.20 Has New Clipboard API Reimplementation - Phoronix | Oct 01 17:35 | |
| *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Oct 01 17:50 | |
| *schestowitz (~roy@host109-145-113-220.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 17:52 | |
| *schestowitz has quit (Changing host) | Oct 01 17:52 | |
| *schestowitz (~roy@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 17:52 | |
| *tyreld_ (~tyreld@c-73-11-40-222.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 18:11 | |
| *tyreld_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Oct 01 18:17 | |
| *trn has quit (K-Lined) | Oct 01 18:25 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/G8JuIxS.jpg | Oct 01 18:26 |
| cubexyz | my printer is from the 1990s :) | Oct 01 18:28 |
| MinceR | so is mine | Oct 01 18:29 |
| cubexyz | the toner cartridge for the laserjet 5N is chemically stable and I got a great deal on a NOS one | Oct 01 18:30 |
| cubexyz | even wrote the date down.. "replaced on nov 14th 2015" | Oct 01 18:33 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/1GUMk2y.jpg | Oct 01 19:58 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/softwaregore/25WkN | Oct 01 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I feel like I'm still forgetting something - Album on Imgur | Oct 01 20:25 | |
| cubexyz | AMI does Linux testing so no excuses for Lenovo | Oct 01 20:34 |
| cubexyz | they remove support for old stuff... it seems everyone does this more or less | Oct 01 20:35 |
| cubexyz | e.g. Intel Nehalem Family (retired) | Oct 01 20:36 |
| cubexyz | VIA C7 (retired) | Oct 01 20:36 |
| MinceR | maybe lenovo did do linux testing | Oct 01 20:36 |
| MinceR | "doesn't work -- check" | Oct 01 20:36 |
| cubexyz | possible | Oct 01 20:37 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure how much BIOS programming Lenovo does though | Oct 01 20:38 |
| cubexyz | BIOS is _supposed_ to be platform agnostic | Oct 01 20:48 |
| cubexyz | for example in the original IBM PC you could load CP/M or msdos | Oct 01 20:49 |
| cubexyz | coreboot continues that... | Oct 01 20:49 |
| cubexyz | not funny: | Oct 01 20:55 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-boot-windows-81.jpg | Oct 01 20:55 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/HNZzRjc.jpg | Oct 01 21:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 01 21:07 |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 21:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782257538708361217 | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/eV0JoK0vuL | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 21:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 01 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/782257541229064192 | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 1.9.20 https://t.co/WtYDEmVdjp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Oct 01 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Oct 01 21:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 1.9.20 | Tux Machines | Oct 01 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's still in the news | Oct 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: IMPORTANT: | Oct 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | someone from germany told me today in comments that his yoga 900 (IIRC) could take gnu/linux OK | Oct 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | so this may be another bit of evidence, suggesting that they don't artificially cripple the devices/desktops/laptops everywhere in the world | Oct 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did you get a response from the AG or whatever ? FTC? | Oct 01 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Nope | Oct 01 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | breadbitten 6 points 1 day ago | Oct 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's been a known issue since the AU was released. | Oct 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/50kawh/anniversary_updates_freezing_issue_is_fixed_in/ | Oct 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Basically, if you have Win10 installed in an SSD and apps installed in another drive, the SSD experiences periodic spikes in disk usage which froze the system for the entire duration. | Oct 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | MS released an update to fix the issue about a week or two after but it did absolutely nothing for most users experiencing that bug. | Oct 01 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Anniversary Update's freezing issue is fixed in today's updates! (OS on SSD, Apps on HDD) : Windows10 | Oct 01 22:47 | |
| MinceR | better upgrade to a free unix, then | Oct 01 23:03 |
| *pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Oct 01 23:07 | |
| *DaemonFC` (~daemonfc@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Oct 01 23:25 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | Oct 01 23:28 | |
| *DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Oct 01 23:30 | |
| DaemonFC | http://qz.com/796101/no-mans-sky-is-being-investigated-in-the-uk-for-false-advertising/ | Oct 01 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | No Man's Sky is being investigated in the UK for false advertising — Quartz | Oct 01 23:33 | |
| DaemonFC | No Man’s Sky was billed as a revolutionary video game—one that contained such multitudes of programmatically generated planets and animals that the developers said even they weren’t sure what players would find in its vast universe. | Oct 01 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | What the players did find, based on user reviews and comment threads across the internet, was a bare-bones, bug-ridden, ultimately shallow version of the game the developers at Hello Games had promised. | Oct 01 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | On Steam, the PC game distribution platform, 88% of the more than 10,000 No Man’s Sky user reviews posted in last 30 days are negative. | Oct 01 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | “This game has endless possiblities [sic],” the top review says. “Almost all of which are not featured in this game.” | Oct 01 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No wonder it went to Gog.com so fast. | Oct 01 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | They have a hard time trying to sell it. Who wants to pirate it? | Oct 01 23:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see my updates in Twitter (other channel) | Oct 01 23:35 |
| schestowitz | re Lonovo | Oct 01 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | I'm considering playing through TES: Oblivion again. The DLCs all came out after I finished the main quest. | Oct 01 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It did say it could take weeks to get a reply from the Illinois AG office. | Oct 01 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | They probably have bigger fish to fry. | Oct 01 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | As state law enforcement goes, Illinois seems better than average. | Oct 01 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | The state has laws against some things Facebook does, and they are pursuing that. | Oct 01 23:37 |
| schestowitz | that's OK | Oct 01 23:37 |
| schestowitz | just keep being pushy and assertive while polite too | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | until you have sometuing to publish | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | keep it in the headlines, it reminds people not to buy Lenovo | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | and they'll suffer for it, serving as warning sign to other OEMs who got propositions from Microsoft | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | We did this to Novell after the patent deal | Oct 01 23:38 |
| schestowitz | This deal sank their sales across the board (not just SUSE) | Oct 01 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They quickly deleted their admission that there is a Microsoft contract. | Oct 01 23:39 |
| schestowitz | and so no other major Linux company with a distro fell for it except Linspire and Xandros (not big) | Oct 01 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Now they have people saying it was probably a low level employee who misspoke. | Oct 01 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I remember Linspire pretty well. It started out as Lindows and they got a lot of money from MS to change the name. | Oct 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz | eyah | Oct 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz | 20 million IIRC | Oct 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz | *yeah | Oct 01 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they overpromised what it would be. They said it would be a Linux OS that ran your Windows software and it turned out to be a not-very-good Linux OS with a software store you had to subscribe to *after* paying money for the OS! | Oct 01 23:40 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
