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msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CqQ9_KY6XEJan 31 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Monster Hash - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogqco ]Jan 31 00:06
MinceRany relation to Johnny Dash's Monster Bash?Jan 31 00:07
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msb_Monster Bash (with Johnny Dash) is an old Apogee game.  Here's a video about it and other PCDOS games of the same era:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahFdNB2X7H8Jan 31 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Monster Bash Starrin' Johnny Dash - JonTron - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogqg6 ]Jan 31 00:46
msb_The song Monster Hash is based on the song Monster Mash by Bobby Pickett.Jan 31 00:49
msb_I have most of those Apogee games and they play great in a DOS emulator in Linux.Jan 31 01:03
msb_This all reminds me of a TV show I used to watch in Philadelphia, by John Zackerle:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_ZacherleJan 31 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | John Zacherle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogqhs ]Jan 31 01:05
msb_He was called Roland, kept his wife My Dear in a coffin and sometimes talked with her.  I think he had an assistant Igor.Jan 31 01:10
msb_He recorded a song Dinner with Drac:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfNb9viis_4   Not the same tune.Jan 31 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Dinner With Drac by John Zacherle 1958 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogqih ]Jan 31 01:11
msb_In the only episode I remember, he was showing a movie about brain transplants.  As usual, he interrupted the movie with bits of his own.  He had made two "amoebas", which were blocks of jello about 8x8x20 inches, with spaghetti inside and eye-stalks at one end.  He transplanted their brains by sticking his hand inside at the eye-stalk end, pulling out a fistfull of jello, and jamming it into the other amoeba.  It was hilarious!Jan 31 01:18
msb_Here's a compilation of kinescope snippets from Zacherle's Philadelphia and NYC shows:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiTkGiVNt_8Jan 31 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Zacherley Archives - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogqlx ]Jan 31 01:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tomb Raider, the awesome 2013 version looksJan 31 03:01
TweetTuxMachines                 like it's heading to SteamOS & LinuxJan 31 03:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Tomb Raider, the awesome 2013 version looks like it's heading to SteamOS & Linux | GamingOnLinuxJan 31 03:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     12 Ways to Use Your Android Smartphone MoreJan 31 03:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Efficiently https://t.co/dMKY9uJMo1Jan 31 03:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | 12 Ways to Use Your Android Smartphone More Efficiently | NDTV Gadgets360.comJan 31 03:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BlackBerry senior director says "the future isJan 31 04:35
TweetTuxMachines                 really Android" https://t.co/4Vesh8Dx2HJan 31 04:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | BlackBerry senior director says "the future is really Android"Jan 31 04:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Developer Experience hackfest: xdg-app +Jan 31 04:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian  https://t.co/gOWFutOdAtJan 31 04:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smcv.pseudorandom.co.uk | GNOME Developer Experience hackfest: xdg-app + DebianJan 31 04:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Android phones of 2016 (so far)Jan 31 05:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Android phones of 2016 (so far) | Tux MachinesJan 31 05:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 10 open source Android app developmentJan 31 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 frameworks https://t.co/Yx6D6FRNDFJan 31 05:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 open source Android app development frameworks | Tux MachinesJan 31 05:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Hurd Is Working On Sound Support, StillJan 31 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Lacks 64-bit & Good USB SupportJan 31 05:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Hurd Is Working On Sound Support, Still Lacks 64-bit & Good USB Support | Tux MachinesJan 31 05:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/679Cfl3kZ2Jan 31 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 31 06:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJan 31 06:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Android phones of 2016 (so far)Jan 31 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zM3KukxRop (www.sfgate.com)Jan 31 06:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com | Best Android phones of 2016 (so far) - SFGateJan 31 06:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Hurd Is Working On Sound Support, StillJan 31 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Lacks 64-bit & Good USB SupportJan 31 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2AHyDuGR8f (www.phoronix.com)Jan 31 06:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNU Hurd Is Working On Sound Support, Still Lacks 64-bit & Good USB Support - PhoronixJan 31 06:03
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/679Cfl3kZ2'Jan 31 06:04
schestowitz[02:32] <MinceR> schestowitz: depending on how they manage the code, it may be easy to see what pieces of code came from m$ via the version control system, thoughJan 31 06:17
schestowitzOr maybe they paid the bsd people to code for themJan 31 06:17
schestowitzwhich is how I interpreted the announcement in the first placeJan 31 06:18
schestowitzlike MS adding to Linux via Novell/Greg K-HJan 31 06:18
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36072/Jan 31 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: What's up with Lynch: Facebook begins mass censorship in EuropeJan 31 06:20
schestowitz"This weekend Jim Lynch was on a tirade on how The Linux Foundation has saved Linux by taking action to keep Karen Sandler, who he calls a "social justice warrior," off the board, going on a rant about SJWs being poison to any project. Today he's upset because Facebook is adopting a policy against racist posts in Europe. Jeez. I used to like reading this guy, but not anymore. It appears as if he's lost his gig with ITWorld, as all of his Jan 31 06:20
schestowitzrecent, more inflammatory posts have been on his own blog."Jan 31 06:20
schestowitz"Jan 31 06:20
schestowitz> Today he's upset because Facebook is adopting a policy against racist posts in Europe.Jan 31 06:20
schestowitzWhen "racism" is defined as merely opposing unlimited immigration or truthfully reporting on the actions of recent immigrants, both of which seem to be the case, then there just might be a problem.Jan 31 06:20
schestowitzHe actually sums up the problem quite well in a single paragraph of his article:Jan 31 06:20
schestowitz"Let me translate what the words “racist” and “xenophobic” mean in this context: any posts that disagree with the German government’s decision to allow its country to be invaded by young Muslim men from the Middle East. If you oppose that decision and you’re in Europe, be ready to have your Facebook posts removed at any time."Jan 31 06:20
schestowitzNow, you may think he's exaggerating or merely being polemic. Of course, lots of people feel that way about RMS too.Jan 31 06:20
schestowitz"Jan 31 06:20
schestowitz"People who call others SJWs without their tongues in their cheeks are always exaggerating and paranoid. No exceptions. That said, a broken clock is right twice a day - facebook is bad for you, but facebook attempting to obey they law of a country in which it operates is not evidence of that."Jan 31 06:20
schestowitzLynch:Jan 31 06:20
schestowitz"Jan 31 06:21
schestowitzHi Christine (brideoflinux),Jan 31 06:21
schestowitzSorry you didn't like the posts on my blog. All I can about that is that you might want to skip reading them in the future. Not everything that I write is everybody's cup of tea and you will find everything from technology stuff to zombies (see the recent post about Z Nation...great show!) on my personal blog. Some folks enjoy reading those posts, while others don't. Don't feel bad if you prefer to skip my blog altogether, I won't take Jan 31 06:21
schestowitzoffense if you do. ;)Jan 31 06:21
schestowitzRegarding the post about Facebook, it's important to note that Facebook's policy seems squarely aimed at anybody who disagrees with Angela Merkel's policy about flooding Germany with young Muslim men from the Middle East despite the sexual assaults, rapes and other violence being directed against German women by them. I can't imagine any sane person would consider people expressing opposition to any of that and wanting Germany to close its Jan 31 06:21
schestowitzborders to more young Muslim men as being "racist" or "xenophobic." Sometimes the safety of the citizens of a country (particularly women) warrants immediate action, and I think that this is one of those cases.Jan 31 06:21
schestowitzAnd Facebook is not doing the German people any favor by censoring opposition to Merkel's policy. They are, as usual, putting their profits ahead of any concern about the welfare of their users (in this case German citizens). So I called them out on it in my post, and I make no bones about my dislike of that company. As I stated in my post, the best thing people can do is delete their Facebook accounts altogether (between the censorship, Jan 31 06:21
schestowitzprivacy violations, manipulation, etc. it's an awful service).Jan 31 06:21
schestowitzAnyway, thanks for the feedback. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. :) Jan 31 06:21
schestowitz"Jan 31 06:21
*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/679Cfl3kZ2'Jan 31 06:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJan 31 06:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gallium OS Review 1080p - The Linux DesignedJan 31 06:32
TweetTuxMachines                 For Chromebooks And Ideal For Slow HardwareJan 31 06:32
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/Y0VruC2Uu4 (www.youtube.com)Jan 31 06:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Gallium OS Review 1080p - The Linux Designed For Chromebooks And Ideal For Slow Hardware - YouTubeJan 31 06:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Neptune 4.5 - Screencast and Screenshots Jan 31 06:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7fjt9EHacAJan 31 06:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org)Jan 31 06:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Neptune 4.5 - Screencast and ScreenshotsJan 31 06:32
oiaohmschestowitz: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/07/10/facebook-experiments-on-users/    Censorship is only small part of the worry with facebookJan 31 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Forbes Welcome [ http://ur1.ca/o9e28 ]Jan 31 06:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMDGPU Linux Gaming Tests With P-State vs.Jan 31 06:53
TweetTuxMachines                 CPUFreq Scaling Drivers https://t.co/gL4b6LbM4cJan 31 06:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMDGPU Linux Gaming Tests With P-State vs. CPUFreq Scaling Drivers - PhoronixJan 31 06:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "In this series of posts, we’re going to take aJan 31 06:54
TweetTuxMachines                 look at CoreOS, why it’s important"Jan 31 06:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deis.com | CoreOS Overview, Part OneJan 31 06:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Opera 12 for Linux, I had to try Jan 31 06:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4FZwRAi91X (www.dedoimedo.com)Jan 31 06:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Opera 12 for Linux, I had to tryJan 31 06:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Retro style Arcade Shoot 'em up Bit Blaster XLJan 31 06:55
TweetTuxMachines                 released on SteamOS & LinuxJan 31 06:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/gq5goxA0tZ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jan 31 06:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Retro style Arcade Shoot 'em up Bit Blaster XL released on SteamOS & Linux | GamingOnLinuxJan 31 06:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Game Benchmarks, a brand new benchmarkingJan 31 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 website for Linux games https://t.co/6KeeXL2qjEJan 31 07:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Open Game Benchmarks, a brand new benchmarking website for Linux games | GamingOnLinuxJan 31 07:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exploiting The Full Potential Of ZFS On BSDJan 31 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Systems https://t.co/vELK6FuPbzJan 31 07:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exploiting The Full Potential Of ZFS On BSD Systems | Tux MachinesJan 31 07:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Screencasts https://t.co/a13oTYGE9BJan 31 07:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Screencasts | Tux MachinesJan 31 07:03
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msb_ISIL news:  ISIL just murdered 45 people in Damascus, Syria with explosives.  They are also clustered at Syria's largest dam and holding hostages there, to prevent being attacked by bombing, since the dam's destruction would cause immense flooding in Syria and Iraq, and cut off the electricity to a large portion of Syria.Jan 31 07:53
msb_https://www.rt.com/news/330083-tabqa-dam-crisis-isis/Jan 31 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | ISIS escapes Syria airstrikes by hiding at country’s largest dam, using hostages as human shield — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/ogrc8 ]Jan 31 07:55
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OneRemedies against International Organisations von Karel WellensJan 31 07:59
OnePage 214 and forwardJan 31 07:59
schestowitz> http://www.yes-www.org/why-use-www/Jan 31 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yes-www.org | Why use www? – www. is not deprecatedJan 31 08:00
schestowitzDue to some odd issues with apache 3 years ago I never quite managed to remove the canonical forms issues. Techrights does not merge URLs correctly, still... I gave up after lots of attempts at the time.Jan 31 08:00
schestowitzShould I move to to https with letsencrypt? Having 3 different domain may make this a chore, and also renewing the certs every 3-6 months... I got the howtos for it saved... it's for centosJan 31 08:00
schestowitzOne: hiJan 31 08:00
schestowitzcontext?Jan 31 08:00
schestowitzsome book regarding intl' bodies such as EPO?Jan 31 08:01
OneYes, I´ll quote a bit right now, although the passage can be found by simply googlingJan 31 08:01
schestowitzthanks, if you can give the suitable framingJan 31 08:01
schestowitzI'll mention it in a future article (got one in the making right now, regarding the union group's letter to officials in NL)Jan 31 08:02
OneThe human rights imperative may lead to or even require a limitation or rejection by domestic courts of jurisdictional immunity claimed by international organisations, and the actual exercise of the courts´ adjudicatory system.Jan 31 08:03
OneActually the whole page below is very relevant but I cannot copy it.Jan 31 08:04
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One... the forum state will not only be entitled but will be obliged - in the case where the international organisation has not complied with its conventional obligation to provide adequate alternative setlement mechanisms - to deny jurisdictional immunity.Jan 31 08:06
Onepage 214Jan 31 08:06
OneEven more interesting page 215Jan 31 08:06
Onehuman rights violations by international organisations ... Jan 31 08:07
msb_It's in Amazon, but no description or reviews, not surprising at $95 price.Jan 31 08:07
OneI just googled human rights and immunity international organisationsJan 31 08:08
Oneit´s under books.googleJan 31 08:08
OneI´m sure you can get to read the pages cited by googleJan 31 08:09
OneIt´s a slap in the face of the Dutch justice that Minnoye openly said he would refuse to follow any Supreme Court decision. Jan 31 08:10
OneI´ll send you a story about Minnoye one of the following days. I just need to verify one detail.Jan 31 08:11
OneHe´s despised by everybody (and I mean not only examiners).Jan 31 08:12
OneAs far as I know he´s at his second prolongation of service, which should be illegal, since the provisions are that one can only prolong to 67 and he´s passed the mark. But I´ll check also this tomorrow.Jan 31 08:14
OneYou´re doing a great job! You and ipkat are our only outlets ... We´re very grateful for your help ... Jan 31 08:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/rmFvSzMD5zJan 31 08:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux MachinesJan 31 08:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/T9SrAMLG8VJan 31 08:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux MachinesJan 31 08:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FSF News https://t.co/MVGB5y1vipJan 31 08:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF News | Tux MachinesJan 31 08:55
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MinceR121753 < schestowitz> Or maybe they paid the bsd people to code for themJan 31 09:44
MinceRthat doesn't sound so badJan 31 09:44
MinceRbut msb_, those games are violentJan 31 09:45
msb_I think feminists object to games portraying violence specifically against women.Jan 31 09:46
MinceRthose "feminists" object to whatever objecting to causes them to feel goodJan 31 09:53
MinceRalso, if there are no women in a violent video game, they whine about thatJan 31 09:53
MinceRand if they're there, they whine about what you saidJan 31 09:54
msb_They object if the game is specifically about men being violent toward women.  Note that your repeated use of the pejorative word "whine" indicates that you are prejudiced, not objective, about the people you're referring to.Jan 31 09:58
MinceRyeah, _i_ am prejudicedJan 31 10:01
MinceRwhy do i have to keep reminding you what crybullies are doing to free software?Jan 31 10:02
msb_This is nice:  Russian GDP went from $200billion/yr to $2Trillion/yr during Putin's leadership.Jan 31 10:03
msb_MinceR: You don't.  You were misrepresenting feminst attitudes toward video games.  You weren't talking about free software at all.Jan 31 10:04
MinceRhttp://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/why-russias-mafia-state-is-so-inefficient/459343.htmlJan 31 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Why Russia's Mafia State Is So Inefficient | Opinion | The Moscow Times [ http://ur1.ca/ogrnb ]Jan 31 10:04
MinceRmsb_: news flash: some video games are free softwareJan 31 10:04
MinceRmsb_: also, we were both talking about crybulliesJan 31 10:05
MinceRwhat crybullies do is relevant to a discussion about crybulliesJan 31 10:05
MinceRunlike putlerJan 31 10:05
msb_Now you're just confusing the discussion.  The connection between SJWs and free software has to do with their attacks on Linus Torvalds, not video games.Jan 31 10:06
MinceRyeah, _i_ am confusing the discussionJan 31 10:06
MinceRbecause crybullies trying to destroy one thing is not relevant at all to crybullies trying to destroy another thingJan 31 10:06
MinceRunlike putin, who's totally relevant to the discussionJan 31 10:06
MinceRright?Jan 31 10:06
schestowitzcrybulliesJan 31 10:07
schestowitzis that like the "I'm offended" crows?Jan 31 10:07
msb_Glad you admit it.  Please don't do it.  You are smart enough to carry on a rational discussion.Jan 31 10:07
MinceRyesJan 31 10:07
schestowitzOr the "safe spaces" crowd?Jan 31 10:07
MinceRalso known as SJWsJan 31 10:07
schestowitzthat's one form of itJan 31 10:07
MinceRmsb_: do some research on sarcasm.Jan 31 10:07
MinceRschestowitz: same thingJan 31 10:07
schestowitzRussian mafiosos are scaryJan 31 10:07
MinceRalso the "HURR VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES ARE TEH EVULZ"Jan 31 10:07
schestowitzI wouldn't write an outspoken blog in RussiaJan 31 10:07
msb_I mentioned Putin because I just heard the GDP increase figures on TV.Jan 31 10:07
MinceRcrowdJan 31 10:07
MinceRand the "DURRRR FREE SOFTWARE IS EVIL" crowdJan 31 10:08
schestowitzmsb_ with his nutty (at times) take on his gov. wouldn't say the same about Putin's gang if he lives in MoscowJan 31 10:08
MinceR"you must adopt our CoC or suffer our wrath!"Jan 31 10:08
MinceRyeahJan 31 10:08
MinceRor if he lived in the eastern blocJan 31 10:08
schestowitzthe very fact that msb_ can say all this and be safe is a testament of free speech in the US, which is better than in the UKJan 31 10:08
MinceRit's easy to cheer for putler from the usaJan 31 10:08
msb_US govt is scary, murdering millions of people to get "regime change" and, along with saudi and turkey, supporting ISIL.Jan 31 10:09
schestowitzit doesn't support ISILJan 31 10:09
schestowitzit supports some who doJan 31 10:09
schestowitzlike Saudi nutters and othersJan 31 10:09
MinceRat least they're doing their best to protect you from your beloved russian governmentJan 31 10:09
schestowitzbblJan 31 10:09
MinceRof course they can't block nuclear winter so you'll starve to death anyway after putler fires off all his nukesJan 31 10:10
msb_Yes it does.  It arms and finances what it calls Syrian moderates, which are actually jihadists who go over to ISIL or run away and leave their weapons for ISIL.Jan 31 10:10
MinceRputler allegedly supports alawitesJan 31 10:11
MinceRlike those are betterJan 31 10:11
MinceRputler also supports his christian cultJan 31 10:11
MinceRwhich is little betterJan 31 10:11
MinceRbut don't let facts get in the way of your north korea-esque propagandaJan 31 10:11
msb_MinceR: Your analysis is as warped as that of NK, not mine.Jan 31 10:12
msb_And note that you are constantly engaging in personal attacks against me.Jan 31 10:13
msb_MinceR: claiming that I am like North Korea is major shit-piggery.Jan 31 10:13
MinceRmsb_: their propaganda is based on the usa being the root of evil, exactly like yoursJan 31 10:13
MinceRmsb_: also, you're confusing yourself with me againJan 31 10:14
MinceRmsb_: you're the one engaging in personal attacksJan 31 10:14
XRevan86What a good day to read #techrights.Jan 31 10:14
msb_If two people say one thing alike that doesn't mean that everything about them is alike.  To claim that is a logical absurdity.Jan 31 10:14
MinceRXRevan86: msb_ is too repetitive to be good to readJan 31 10:15
MinceRit's the same old illogical bullshit every timeJan 31 10:15
msb_MinceR: How have I engaged in personal attacks against you here?Jan 31 10:15
MinceRnorth korea also practices msb_'s favorite form of government ("state socialism")Jan 31 10:15
MinceR161327 < msb_> MinceR: claiming that I am like North Korea is major shit-piggery.Jan 31 10:16
*XRevan86 wants to comment this: GDP would get higher than in 90s under any at least a bit sane government.Jan 31 10:17
msb_MinceR: Now you are out and out lying.  I have said that my favorite form of govt is socialism with worker-owned businesses, like Mondragon.  I have said that many times in response to your lies, but you keep telling the same lies.Jan 31 10:17
MinceRmsb_: you are the one who keeps saying contradictory things about what you believeJan 31 10:18
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msb_Give examples by quoting what I've said.Jan 31 10:18
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MinceRmsb_: like one moment "socialism" is the utopia that assumes humans are good, and the next moment stalinism is "socialism"Jan 31 10:18
MinceRmsb_: but yeah, it must be my fault that you keep flopping between belief elements that contradict each otherJan 31 10:18
msb_I've never said that socialism assumes humans are good, and I have said that stalin practiced authoritarian state socialism, which was bad.Jan 31 10:19
MinceRyeah, you're apparently not even aware of the issues with marx's nutcase theoriesJan 31 10:20
MinceRyou also said that 1) "socialism" is desirable and 2) stalin practiced "socialism"Jan 31 10:20
XRevan86> like one moment "socialism" is the utopia that assumes humans are goodJan 31 10:20
XRevan86Clearly you meant "communism" which is not socialism in any way. (that is still debatable)Jan 31 10:20
MinceRXRevan86: clearly "socialists"/"communists"/"m$n live search"/"bing" don't know what they want or what they want to call themselvesJan 31 10:21
MinceRthey switch labels like m$Jan 31 10:21
msb_The main thing is that people should share and help one another instead of exploiting and competing with one another.Jan 31 10:21
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MinceRXRevan86: the hungarian party of muscovite fascists reorganized itself under 3 different names to try and pretend they're not selling the same ideologyJan 31 10:21
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MinceRi wonder when will people learn that renaming something doesn't make it totally new or goodJan 31 10:21
MinceRprobably not until the point they exterminate themselvesJan 31 10:22
XRevan86MinceR: It's also not ideology.Jan 31 10:22
MinceRXRevan86: yeah, and the next moment it will beJan 31 10:22
msb_I have  posted here the basis of my beliefs, which is The Chalice and the Blade, and its characterization of societies as Partnership or Dominator.Jan 31 10:22
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, people like to twist definitions.Jan 31 10:22
MinceRjust as stalinism is not "socialism"/"communism"/etc. one moment, but it's "socialism"/"communism"/etc. the nextJan 31 10:22
MinceRmsb_: so, what prevents you from recognizing that putler is doing the typical dominator bullshit?Jan 31 10:23
msb_And that Domination in societies is a form of psychopathic behavior.Jan 31 10:23
MinceRso lenin, stalin, putin, etc. are psychopathsJan 31 10:23
MinceRso what?Jan 31 10:23
MinceRalso, i wonder what psychologists think about their future when people can establish complete diagnosis over irc with a minimal amount of factsJan 31 10:24
XRevan86MinceR: Socialism is basically a govenmental/economical system under which socium/communities controls distributions of goods.Jan 31 10:24
MinceRXRevan86: blah blah blahJan 31 10:24
XRevan86and productionJan 31 10:25
msb_and fair distribution of profitsJan 31 10:25
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XRevan86that's not a good definition either thoughJan 31 10:25
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MinceRXRevan86: is an oppressive totalitarian government allowed to call itself "the people"/"community"/"socium" (whatever that is) or not?Jan 31 10:26
XRevan86MinceR: Obviously not.Jan 31 10:26
msb_I think there are many different varieties of socialism, some of which work much better than others.Jan 31 10:26
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XRevan86some even call modern varieties of capitalism "socialism"Jan 31 10:27
MinceRmsb_: but you support all of them regardlessJan 31 10:27
MinceRXRevan86: "democratic socialism"/"social democracy"?Jan 31 10:27
XRevan86MinceR: yesJan 31 10:27
MinceRi think at this point the "communist"/"socialist"/etc. labels don't mean anything at allJan 31 10:28
MinceRthey're applied to everything and its oppositeJan 31 10:28
MinceRto mean either "i approve of this establishment" or "i don't approve of this establishment"Jan 31 10:28
XRevan86MinceR: Substitution of concepts is out there, yes.Jan 31 10:30
XRevan86MinceR: But you're not quite rightJan 31 10:30
XRevan86> I think at this point political labels don't mean anything at allJan 31 10:31
XRevan86MinceR: You didn't generalise properly.Jan 31 10:31
MinceR:>Jan 31 10:31
MinceRyeah, that tooJan 31 10:31
msb_Mondragon, Cuba under Castro, and Nicaragua under (elected Daniel Ortega) are doing well.  Stalin and other USSR leaders were far too authoritarian, however, they were working under the pressure of threats of attack by the Nazis, US, and other capitalist nations, and had to industrialize and manufacture weapons very rapidly.Jan 31 10:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/693815833642946560Jan 31 10:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: No word about/from #eucalyptus since #hp took over. Maybe they just hired all the staff and made it look like $/takeover (typical modus).Jan 31 10:32
msb_that should read    (elected) Daniel OrtegaJan 31 10:32
XRevan86Even conception of democracy is broken these days.Jan 31 10:32
MinceRmany "conservative"s want dramatic changes in the establishment; many "liberal"s are crybullies and are vehemently opposing freedom of speech; many "libertarians" are actually "conservative"s; "socialists"/"communists"/etc. were discussed aboveJan 31 10:33
MinceRi don't know what i left outJan 31 10:33
MinceRmsb_: so authoritarianism is a-ok so long as you can justify it with an external threatJan 31 10:33
XRevan86MinceR: Respesentative democracy.Jan 31 10:33
XRevan86Representative*Jan 31 10:34
MinceRmsb_: news flash: pretty much any authoritarian system does exactly thatJan 31 10:34
MinceRusually the threat is made upJan 31 10:34
msb_MinceR: when you said that I support all varieties of socialism, you are telling the same lie about me that I corrected you on many times before.Jan 31 10:34
MinceRXRevan86: does that still have supporters?Jan 31 10:34
MinceRand of course democracy collapses under the majority being evil idiotsJan 31 10:34
XRevan86MinceR: That's the only kind of governmental control that is common today.Jan 31 10:34
MinceRmsb_: and yet you _again_ implied the ussr was socialistJan 31 10:35
XRevan86practically the only one recognised by the massesJan 31 10:35
MinceRmsb_: you don't even leave a delay between claiming something and its opposite anymore, do you?Jan 31 10:35
MinceRXRevan86: and yet it's usually control by megacorporate corruptors insteadJan 31 10:35
MinceRoh, right, forgot "anarchism"Jan 31 10:35
XRevan86MinceR: See? People don't even know what democracy is.Jan 31 10:36
MinceRmost "anarchist"s are either "communists"/"socialists"/etc., don't recognize that humans are currently incapable of responsible self-governance, or bothJan 31 10:36
msb_In the case of the USSR, the Nazis  did invade and murdered IIRC some 25 million Russians.  And the Nazis had been 75% financed by ultra-wealthy Americans.  So that threat was definitely _not_ made up.Jan 31 10:36
MinceRmsb_: stalin's people murdered more people than the nazis did, iircJan 31 10:36
MinceRmsb_: and mao's people outdid stalins'Jan 31 10:36
MinceRmsb_: but yes, let's focus on which flavor of totalitarian dictatorship we prefer, since we've already settled on wanting totalitarian dictatorship.Jan 31 10:37
msb_MinceR: I said that Stalin used authoritarian state socialism which was a very bad system.  You keep misrepresenting what I've said, and lying about me based on your misrepresentations.Jan 31 10:38
MinceRmsb_: yes, yes, one moment you say it's a very bad system, the next you support itJan 31 10:39
MinceRmsb_: you don't need to repeat it anymore for everyone to notice the patternJan 31 10:39
msb_MinceR: stop lying about me.  I don't favor any totalitarian dictatorship.Jan 31 10:39
MinceRmsb_: yeah, you claim not to while doing soJan 31 10:39
MinceRmsb_: just as you claim you disagree with crybullies attacking Linus, Linux and other free software projects while supporting crybullies violentlyJan 31 10:40
MinceRthis "tactic" wasn't exactly new even in 1949Jan 31 10:40
msb_MinceR: you are lying about me again.  I don't even use the word "crybullies".Jan 31 10:41
MinceRyeah, you call them SJWsJan 31 10:41
MinceRand as we've already seen, labels make all the differenceJan 31 10:41
MinceRso much that nothing else matters anymoreJan 31 10:41
MinceRnot even what the labels were supposed to meanJan 31 10:41
*XRevan86 startpaged SJWJan 31 10:42
XRevan86so that's how those are calledJan 31 10:42
MinceRagain, just like the russian empire: they were doing pretty much the same as nazi germany, which they despised, but it's ok, because they used different symbolsJan 31 10:42
msb_MinceR: As long as you keep distorting and misrepresenting what I say, it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion with you.Jan 31 10:42
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MinceRmsb_: as long as you keep saying things along with their opposite and pretend it's logical, it's impossible to avoid the accusation of "distorting" and "misrepresenting" what you sayJan 31 10:43
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MinceRmsb_: and it's impossible to have a meaningful conversation with youJan 31 10:43
MinceRmsb_: nothing you say has any meaning anymoreJan 31 10:43
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MinceRthis is your newspeakJan 31 10:44
MinceRWar is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.Jan 31 10:44
XRevan86MinceR: Russian Empire didn't have the chance to despise nazis.Jan 31 10:44
MinceRXRevan86: i meant the russian empire that called itself "socialist"Jan 31 10:45
MinceRoh, and "soviet"Jan 31 10:45
MinceRbecause people were councils back thenJan 31 10:45
MinceRor maybe pieces of adviceJan 31 10:45
schestowitzmsb_: MinceR: we always end up talking about Cold War here...Jan 31 10:45
MinceRwhich is now aligned with a christian cultJan 31 10:46
MinceRhttp://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2015/06/putins-crusade-is-russia-the-last-defender-of-the-christian-faith-2491190.htmlJan 31 10:46
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XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_%28council%29Jan 31 10:46
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schestowitz!google bush trust putin wear a crossJan 31 10:46
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MinceRschestowitz: msb_ advocates authoritarianism like he's being paid to do itJan 31 10:46
schestowitzhe's disenchanted and feels disenfranchised with US capitalismJan 31 10:47
XRevan86> http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/14/bush-explains-his-comment-about-putins-soul-says-russian-leader-changedJan 31 10:47
XRevan86Wow, that's incredibly dull.Jan 31 10:47
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schestowitzBut that doesn't mean USSR was any easier on peopleJan 31 10:47
XRevan86> any easierJan 31 10:47
XRevan86schestowitz: As you said "any", yes, USSR was in ways easier on people :).Jan 31 10:48
schestowitzsome people vote for radical right because of national issuesJan 31 10:48
MinceR"but i prefer to be tortured on the rack, not in the iron maiden!"Jan 31 10:48
schestowitzwhich have them assume that xenophobia and greater state powers are the solutionJan 31 10:48
MinceR"but this turd has sprinkles on it!"Jan 31 10:48
schestowitzXRevan86: many left when it came down burningJan 31 10:49
schestowitzI don't know of people escaping from US/UK/NATO to RussiaJan 31 10:49
schestowitzCouldn't name a single oneJan 31 10:49
schestowitzand it's not because of Russian immigration law or language barriersJan 31 10:49
MinceRalso, for some reason it were the "commies" who built the iron curtain and the berlin wallJan 31 10:50
MinceRsomehow only their people wanted to escape to the other sideJan 31 10:50
schestowitz'their'Jan 31 10:50
MinceRand somehow only they wanted to prevent thisJan 31 10:50
MinceRwell, in their case, we can say "their slaves"Jan 31 10:50
XRevan86I wonder where Depardieu lives now.Jan 31 10:50
MinceR:>Jan 31 10:50
schestowitzCraig Paul Roberts and that guy who founded Global Research like the Russian propagandaJan 31 10:51
schestowitzbut neither lives in RussiaJan 31 10:51
schestowitzbased on blogspot localisation it seems like one is in MexicoJan 31 10:51
schestowitzthe other probably still in CanadaJan 31 10:51
MinceRit's easier and safer to advertise russia from far awayJan 31 10:51
MinceRso that you don't have to actually endure what you preachJan 31 10:52
MinceRmsb_ knows this very wellJan 31 10:52
schestowitzit's easy to support russian propaganda without facing the severe consequences of living in RussiaJan 31 10:52
XRevan86schestowitz: Well, that would be hard explain...Jan 31 10:52
XRevan86to explain*Jan 31 10:52
schestowitzbecause it seems alluring when you see some of the crap that's going on in the West, not in Hollywood (cinema)Jan 31 10:52
MinceRuntil you see some of the crap that's going on in russia and in the eastern blocJan 31 10:52
MinceRand in NK, and red china, etc.Jan 31 10:52
XRevan86But since you switched from USSR to Russia, it would be even harderJan 31 10:52
schestowitzsame thing almost...Jan 31 10:53
schestowitzlike England, UKJan 31 10:53
MinceRapparently labels are everythingJan 31 10:53
schestowitzplus the time dimensionJan 31 10:53
schestowitzputin is a USSR personJan 31 10:53
MinceRwell, england is just a part of the ukJan 31 10:53
schestowitzand his confidants and oligarchs (USSR raiders) tooJan 31 10:53
MinceRand england stopped being a state on its own long ago, afaikJan 31 10:53
XRevan86schestowitz: Not from my perspective.Jan 31 10:53
msb_XRevan86: Are you happy living in Russia?Jan 31 10:54
schestowitzlegacy of the previous incarnation, before "Union" became "federation"Jan 31 10:54
MinceRmsb_: are you happy living outside russia?Jan 31 10:54
XRevan86msb_: I don't have perspective on that.Jan 31 10:54
schestowitzI had friends from RussiaJan 31 10:55
schestowitzthey had left itJan 31 10:55
XRevan86Basically I'm not happy, but I'm not happy because of many things.Jan 31 10:55
schestowitzand they didn't have much good to sayJan 31 10:55
schestowitzCold, no jobs, oppressiveJan 31 10:55
msb_MinceR: yes, but scared of US govt.Jan 31 10:55
schestowitzrightly soJan 31 10:55
schestowitzlike RussiaJan 31 10:55
schestowitzeveryone should be afraid from the USJan 31 10:56
schestowitzit's that whom you're afraid of that controls youJan 31 10:56
schestowitz(or afraid of criticising)Jan 31 10:56
MinceRnot sure if there's a benefit to being afraidJan 31 10:56
schestowitzmost people don't bother saying anything about the US, so they're not afraid. They "play safe'Jan 31 10:56
MinceRbut recognizing that we're under threat from the us, from the russian empire and from other religious fundamentalist states, yesJan 31 10:56
msb_Obviously I do criticize the USG, and I am afraid of it.  It lied about 911 and has murdered millions of people since.Jan 31 10:57
schestowitzMinceR: not just religious statesJan 31 10:58
schestowitzChina and NK aren't motivated or tied together by religionJan 31 10:58
XRevan86I have grandparents in UK. Some years ago it was considered to (re)visit them but... prices in UK are somewhere in clouds.Jan 31 10:58
schestowitzit's nationalism, like it was in Germany.... religion just wraps it up a bitJan 31 10:58
schestowitzthe 'identity" angleJan 31 10:58
schestowitzchinito eyes would be more like that in ChinaJan 31 10:58
schestowitzhelps identify the "others"Jan 31 10:59
*XRevan86 gived away some personal info to the public, oh well.Jan 31 10:59
schestowitze.g. Muslims, uighurs Jan 31 10:59
msb_There is no danger of attack by Russia against the West.  Russia has been very well-behaved during this century.Jan 31 10:59
MinceRafaik they worship their dictators as gods in NKJan 31 10:59
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UyghursJan 31 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Uyghurs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJan 31 10:59
MinceRred china is nominally communist/etc. which is about as nutty as christianityJan 31 11:00
XRevan86I'd say there is no danger of attack by Russia against the West because it's suicidal for Russia.Jan 31 11:00
MinceRi doubt they care anymoreJan 31 11:01
MinceRthey fervently believe that the afterlife is more important than this life (christianity)Jan 31 11:01
XRevan86MinceR: Everybody wants to live.Jan 31 11:01
MinceRno, not everybodyJan 31 11:01
MinceRdevout abrahamics especially notJan 31 11:01
msb_Mutual Assured Destruction.  But Russia has not shown any interest in attacking anyone in this century, unlike the US.Jan 31 11:01
MinceRreligion breaks Mutual Assured DestructionJan 31 11:01
MinceRalso, putler is desperateJan 31 11:01
XRevan86MinceR: No, christianity in Russia is not fundementalistial.Jan 31 11:02
XRevan86it tries to be, but nahJan 31 11:02
schestowitzRussia did...Jan 31 11:02
schestowitzincluding after the Bolsheviks' revolutionJan 31 11:02
XRevan86fundamentalisticalJan 31 11:02
MinceRXRevan86: actually, putler is in cahoots with at least one cult, which is afaik by definition fundamentalismJan 31 11:02
schestowitzwhich put central Europe in a panicJan 31 11:02
XRevan86MinceR: Russian government wants opium to be available for people.Jan 31 11:03
MinceRso?Jan 31 11:03
XRevan86No, not that. Russian government wants people to get opium.Jan 31 11:03
MinceRso?Jan 31 11:03
schestowitzpeople who want it get it anywayJan 31 11:03
schestowitze.g. from US-occupied afghanistanJan 31 11:03
MinceRkiddie-fuckers regularly give wine to people at massJan 31 11:04
schestowitzit's just a question or price and riskJan 31 11:04
MinceRreligion and drugs go hand in handJan 31 11:04
schestowitzand risk (of arrest) drives up the priceJan 31 11:04
XRevan86MinceR: It doesn't mean anybody actually gives a damn about G-d in government.Jan 31 11:04
schestowitz!google opium production under us occupaitonJan 31 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Opium production in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_AfghanistanJan 31 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. ... | http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053Jan 31 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Afghan Opium Production Increases 35-Fold Since U.S. Invasion ... | http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/10/afghan-opium-production-increases-35-fold-since-u-s-invasion/Jan 31 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Real Afghanistan Surge is in Heroin Production and Tripled ... | http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/the-real-afghanistan-surge-is-in-heroin-production-and-tripled-opium-cultivation-since-the-us-military-arrived-un-and-us-government-documents.htmlJan 31 11:04
MinceRXRevan86: yeah, i guess some of them believe _they_ are "G-d"Jan 31 11:04
MinceRlike putin's faithful apprentice, viktor orbanJan 31 11:04
schestowitzWho's gid?Jan 31 11:04
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Jan 31 11:04
schestowitzgroup id?Jan 31 11:04
MinceRit's probably meant to be "God" which just means yahwehJan 31 11:05
schestowitzJehojahJan 31 11:05
XRevan86schestowitz: It's a jewish way of writing "god". For some reason it feels like mocking for me.Jan 31 11:05
schestowitzI'm going to hell from reading literally a work :-)Jan 31 11:05
MinceRanother horrible role modelJan 31 11:05
schestowitz*forJan 31 11:05
schestowitzXRevan86: there's the belief that uttering the name is not allowedJan 31 11:06
schestowitzeven if it's written right there literallyJan 31 11:06
XRevan86schestowitz: I know.Jan 31 11:06
schestowitzsuperstition taken to nutty levelsJan 31 11:06
MinceRi thought that appled to yahweh or whatever it wasJan 31 11:06
MinceRi guess some people are really committed to making the taboo cycle spinJan 31 11:06
schestowitzlike fear is masturbatingJan 31 11:06
MinceRsoon "G-d" will be a taboo tooJan 31 11:07
MinceRi wonder what comes nextJan 31 11:07
MinceR"G--"? "--d"? "---"?Jan 31 11:07
schestowitzwhich is something 99% of people will inevitably do anyway, it's just means for controlling people through guilt and fearJan 31 11:07
XRevan86$DEITYNAMEJan 31 11:07
schestowitzLike "original sin"Jan 31 11:07
schestowitzMaking people guilty since birthJan 31 11:07
schestowitzor conceptionJan 31 11:07
msb_XRevan86: How is the Russian economy?  Can people get work?  Can they get enough food?  A place to live?  Medical care?Jan 31 11:07
MinceRyeah, another thing allegedly typical of dictatorships: you can't avoid violating the law while you liveJan 31 11:07
schestowitzmsb_: depends where, from what I understand...Jan 31 11:08
MinceRso if they want to lock you up or execute you, they always have an excuseJan 31 11:08
schestowitzSome places have become run-down old era buildings with poor infrastructure and much opium addictionJan 31 11:08
MinceRmsb_: read up on what russians did when the price of oil dropped a littleJan 31 11:08
schestowitzso if you don't die from the cold in these places, like those in Ukraine famine, you're kind of well off... that's aside from the Big Cities, which cost a lot more to live inJan 31 11:09
XRevan86msb_: In Leningrad / St. Petersburg?Jan 31 11:09
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2012_Russia_Products_Export_Treemap.pngJan 31 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:2012 Russia Products Export Treemap.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrsx ]Jan 31 11:09
MinceRthis is not what a healthy economy looks like.Jan 31 11:09
schestowitzXRevan86: those are good citiesJan 31 11:09
XRevan86schestowitz: Cities?Jan 31 11:09
schestowitzlike saying Cardiff or Edinburgh hereJan 31 11:09
schestowitzLondon being like MoscowJan 31 11:09
schestowitzYou cannot judge UK lifestyle based on LondonJan 31 11:10
schestowitzwhich is like a country within a countryJan 31 11:10
schestowitzlook at Lutin, Blackburd, Leeds...Jan 31 11:10
schestowitz*LutonJan 31 11:10
msb_XRevan86: any place you can tell us about.Jan 31 11:10
schestowitzLOL, must have though of PutinJan 31 11:10
schestowitzLutin Airport...Jan 31 11:10
schestowitzI know quite well an old lady (~50) who studied engineering in Russia and became just an ordinary cookJan 31 11:11
XRevan86msb_: Okay, so I'll say what I think about where I live in.Jan 31 11:11
XRevan86I live in a Urban-type settlement on the edge of St. Petersburg.Jan 31 11:12
msb_Aren't Leningrad and St. Petersburg two names for the same city?Jan 31 11:12
schestowitzBeijing and HK are quite nice in China, but only the super-rich and their slaves can live thereJan 31 11:12
XRevan86msb_: They totally are.Jan 31 11:12
MinceRputin airportJan 31 11:12
schestowitz!google luton airportJan 31 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The official website for London Luton Airport | http://www.london-luton.co.uk/Jan 31 11:12
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TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Live Flight Information from London Luton Airport | http://www.london-luton.co.uk/en/flights/Jan 31 11:12
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schestowitzTim of techbytes was from LutonJan 31 11:13
MinceR"quite nice" if you don't mind not having any rightsJan 31 11:13
MinceRoh, and you don't need to breatheJan 31 11:13
MinceRwhich is a bit of a challenge at least in beijingJan 31 11:13
schestowitz[16:13] <MinceR> "quite nice" if you don't mind not having any rightsJan 31 11:14
schestowitzHK has rightsJan 31 11:14
schestowitzfor now at leastJan 31 11:14
MinceRso why did the people protest recently?Jan 31 11:14
XRevan86And it would be a nice place to live (Ust'-Izzhora nearby, one can just walk there and enjoy) if only it wouldn't be the road connection to the St. Petersburg itself.Jan 31 11:14
XRevan86Izhora*Jan 31 11:15
XRevan86In peak hours one can ride from it to the nearest subway for like an hour.Jan 31 11:16
XRevan86drive* %)Jan 31 11:16
schestowitz[16:14] <MinceR> so why did the people protest recently?Jan 31 11:17
schestowitzbecause they still couldJan 31 11:17
MinceRahJan 31 11:17
schestowitz!google protest china student rightsJan 31 11:17
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989Jan 31 11:17
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MinceRso if people protest it means everything's all rightJan 31 11:17
MinceRthat's why people don't protest in hungaristanJan 31 11:17
schestowitzin China it's hard to even organise protestsJan 31 11:17
XRevan86and that's 5 kmJan 31 11:17
schestowitzMinceR: a country with protest isn't the bestJan 31 11:18
msb_RT has been covering protests by some Russians who can't pay their dollar-denominated mortgages anymore because the rouble has declined with respect to the dollar.Jan 31 11:18
schestowitzbest is one where people see no need to potestJan 31 11:18
schestowitzworse is where people see the need to protest but are to afraid toJan 31 11:18
schestowitzdefeatismJan 31 11:18
schestowitzthat's PRCJan 31 11:18
XRevan86Rouble is twice as cheap as it was two years ago.Jan 31 11:19
msb_So some people getting paid in roubles can no longer afford to make mortgage payments in dollars.Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzXRevan86: "cheap" is a euphemismJan 31 11:20
msb_At least they are not afraid to protest, in big crowds.Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzyou mean devalued, or worth lessJan 31 11:20
XRevan86schestowitz: yesJan 31 11:20
schestowitzit's only good for export economyJan 31 11:20
schestowitzand Putin does a good job attracting sanctions against thatJan 31 11:21
schestowitzso imports harm RussiansJan 31 11:21
schestowitzRussia doesn't make that much stuff, it imports like China, which trades in its Yuan or maybe DollarsJan 31 11:21
msb_Putin didn't do anything to "attract sanctions".Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzahJan 31 11:21
schestowitzXRevan86: I suggest you swap with msb_Jan 31 11:22
schestowitzget a nice place in New Jersey IIRCJan 31 11:22
schestowitzmsb_ will have just a few months more to liveJan 31 11:22
msb_The US set up a Nazi government in Ukraine, and Putin had to protect the people in Crimea.Jan 31 11:22
MinceRst. putin didn't do anythingJan 31 11:22
MinceRagain the tired old putin propagandaJan 31 11:22
MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqmboHoCcAAgE8z.jpgJan 31 11:22
schestowitzPutin protected Crimea like Israel protects GazaJan 31 11:22
XRevan86> ethnic RussiansJan 31 11:23
XRevan86That is just dull.Jan 31 11:23
schestowitzMinceR: stay classyJan 31 11:23
MinceRapparently msb_ prefers to live under the jurisdiction of a government he believes to be "nazi" as opposed to one he doesn't believe to be "nazi"Jan 31 11:23
MinceRwhat does this tell us about msb_?Jan 31 11:23
schestowitzMinceR: EPO threatened to sue me, they said, to "protect" EPO staffJan 31 11:23
schestowitzand "their families" or something like thatJan 31 11:23
MinceRschestowitz: i guess i'll just have to hide and leave the country thenJan 31 11:23
schestowitzand they "respect freedom of the press," they told the media... after threatening to sueJan 31 11:24
MinceRwhich i'll probably have to do anywayJan 31 11:24
msb_A million ethnic Russians fled from Crimea to Russia before it was annexed.Jan 31 11:24
XRevan86Ethnically speaking Ukrainians are more Russian than a lot of Russians. Not that that is bad, just that's it.Jan 31 11:24
MinceRbecause of putler's apprenticeJan 31 11:24
XRevan86for some reasons people keep forgetting thatJan 31 11:24
MinceRhttp://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/nataliia-protasova-referendum-at-gunpoint-339628.htmlJan 31 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kyivpost.com | Nataliia Protasova: Referendum at gunpoint [ http://ur1.ca/ogrur ]Jan 31 11:24
schestowitzmsb_: your pro-Russia slant is being ridiculed by a Russian, tooJan 31 11:24
schestowitzI find that funnyJan 31 11:24
MinceRschestowitz: obviously that means that everybody in the world is crazy, except msb_ Jan 31 11:25
schestowitzmsb_: are you an ethnic American?Jan 31 11:25
msb_I am medically unwell and have a lot of stuff.  Moving would be very difficult for me.Jan 31 11:25
schestowitz(serious question)Jan 31 11:25
XRevan86I'm not managing to keep up with the chat, BTW.Jan 31 11:25
msb_I was born here.Jan 31 11:25
schestowitzmsb_: are you an ethnic American?Jan 31 11:26
MinceRmsb_: why did your ancestors move to the usa?Jan 31 11:26
schestowitzand where fromJan 31 11:26
msb_schestowitz: I don't know what that means.Jan 31 11:26
schestowitzProbably something like east EuropeJan 31 11:26
schestowitzmsb_: are you an ethnic American?Jan 31 11:27
msb_I think my grandparents came to the US from Ukraine in the 1920s.Jan 31 11:27
XRevan86I wanted to comment about healthcare and forgot.Jan 31 11:27
schestowitzmsb_: why?Jan 31 11:27
schestowitzbefore the famine?Jan 31 11:27
schestowitzStalin "punishing" ukraine?Jan 31 11:27
msb_schestowitz: I don't know.Jan 31 11:27
XRevan86msb_: In order to answer about healthcare in Russia I'd have to ask how is it in US.Jan 31 11:27
schestowitzand before Hitler rose to power and started the war?Jan 31 11:27
MinceRi'm sure it was actually Yeltsin with his time machine :>Jan 31 11:27
schestowitzmaybe if the US didn't welcome them they'd have starved in UkraineJan 31 11:28
MinceRisn't that right, msb_?Jan 31 11:28
schestowitzor be sent to camps in Poland, or be killed in PogromsJan 31 11:28
schestowitzImagine their own views on Russia at the timeJan 31 11:28
XRevan861920 is the time of the Civil WarJan 31 11:28
msb_XRevan86: Most Americans have healthcare of some kind, but we have to pay for the large  profits of medical insurance corporations.Jan 31 11:28
schestowitzthe US welcomed your ancestors, it seems...Jan 31 11:28
schestowitzrescued them from Russia and Germany (both sides)Jan 31 11:29
XRevan86Whites vs. RedsJan 31 11:29
schestowitzin US?Jan 31 11:29
schestowitzThat was well beforehandJan 31 11:29
schestowitz!google year knee massacreJan 31 11:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Wounded Knee Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_MassacreJan 31 11:29
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schestowitz1890 and that was around the end of all these conflictsJan 31 11:30
XRevan86msb_: I didn't pay for insurance.Jan 31 11:30
msb_It was a decade or two later that ultra-wealthy Americans started supporting Hitler's war buildup.Jan 31 11:30
schestowitzThe invaders basically 'pacified' (defeated) the indigenous populationJan 31 11:30
schestowitzThey did this in the Philippines about 15 years larerJan 31 11:30
schestowitzkills the resistors, whom they called "niggers"Jan 31 11:30
XRevan86msb_: Remember I was talking with you about health issues?Jan 31 11:30
schestowitzkills->killedJan 31 11:31
msb_yes.  How are you doing with that?Jan 31 11:31
schestowitz(And tortures, with waterboarding)Jan 31 11:31
XRevan86msb_: Seems better.Jan 31 11:31
MinceRsounds like somebody hasn't heard of this >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_PactJan 31 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrve ]Jan 31 11:31
msb_XRevan86: Great!Jan 31 11:31
XRevan86msb_: Point is: I paid for medications but not the doctors.Jan 31 11:31
msb_Excellent (as long as meds are inexpensive).Jan 31 11:32
schestowitzand effective..Jan 31 11:32
XRevan86msb_: expensiveness of medications is very relativeJan 31 11:32
msb_XRevan86: Russia has the same drugs available as the US, right?Jan 31 11:33
XRevan86msb_: I really have no idea.Jan 31 11:33
XRevan86some are imported, some aren'tJan 31 11:33
XRevan86medications is one of the things Russia actually producesJan 31 11:34
XRevan86Probably because USSR did, and production wasn't demolished completely.Jan 31 11:34
XRevan86in 90sJan 31 11:34
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XRevan86msb_: Was it exactly 1920?Jan 31 11:36
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msb_XRevan86: I don't know exactly when my ancestors came to the US.  In fact, I only think they were from Ukraine because my grandmother mentioned a city name, which I remembered and looked up a year or two ago.Jan 31 11:39
XRevan86msb_: Not enough infoJan 31 11:43
XRevan86Odd that US and not France or Germany.Jan 31 11:44
schestowitzmsb_: but you have 4 grandparentsJan 31 11:45
MinceRwell, the us used to welcome immigrantsJan 31 11:45
schestowitzand they too had migrated beforehand, and their ancestors may have had, tooJan 31 11:45
schestowitzwere they "ethical Ukranians"?Jan 31 11:45
MinceRnot ethnical?Jan 31 11:46
schestowitzMinceR: it still does, the richer ones...Jan 31 11:46
schestowitzor the poor ones who become low cost labour to that former groupsJan 31 11:46
schestowitzlike fruit pickersJan 31 11:46
schestowitz"banada republic"Jan 31 11:46
msb_The city was Zhitomir, which also was the residence for a time of one Hayim Nahman Bialik, which is similar to my family name Bilk.  He became the national poet of (gag!) Israel.Jan 31 11:47
XRevan86schestowitz: Too early for Ukrainian ethnicality.Jan 31 11:47
msb_schestowitz: That's all I know about my family's origins.Jan 31 11:47
XRevan86* Ukrainian ethnic self-consciousnessJan 31 11:48
schestowitzso the US absorbs them before the mess, at least your grandpaJan 31 11:48
schestowitzUkriane was more a victim of Stalin than of Hitler AFAIKJan 31 11:49
schestowitzChomsky faces similar criticismJan 31 11:49
MinceRdon't underestimate a stalinist's ability to twist facts inside out to somehow blame hitler and/or the USA for that tooJan 31 11:49
schestowitzI think one of his parents was from LithuaniaJan 31 11:49
schestowitzthe other from that region tooJan 31 11:49
schestowitzso when he slams US foreign policies this is brought upJan 31 11:50
schestowitzAt least he isn't defending RussiaJan 31 11:50
schestowitzor StalinJan 31 11:50
XRevan86schestowitz: How come?Jan 31 11:50
schestowitzOliver Stone doesJan 31 11:50
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_StoneJan 31 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Oliver Stone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrx8 ]Jan 31 11:51
XRevan86> Ukriane was more a victim of Stalin than of Hitler AFAIKJan 31 11:53
XRevan86It all depends on how you define "Ukraine".Jan 31 11:53
XRevan86I wouldn't recommend to bring all that up though.Jan 31 11:53
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_UkraineJan 31 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | History of Ukraine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrxi ]Jan 31 11:54
schestowitz"Ukraine emerges as the concept of a nation, and the Ukrainians as a nationality, with the Ukrainian National Revival in the mid-18th century, in the wake of the peasant revolt of 1768/69 and the eventual partition of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. Galicia fell to the Austrian Empire, and the rest of Ukraine to the Russian Empire."Jan 31 11:55
schestowitz"Ukraine first became independent with the Ukrainian War of Independence of 1917 to 1921, but the resulting Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (in 1919 merged from the Ukrainian People's Republic and West Ukrainian People's Republic) was quickly subsumed in the Soviet Union."Jan 31 11:55
schestowitz"The Soviet famine of 1932–33 or Holodomor killed an estimated 6 to 8 million people in the Soviet Union, the majority of them in Ukraine."Jan 31 11:56
schestowitzSo the concept of this nation did existJan 31 11:56
XRevan86schestowitz: Concepts did existJan 31 11:56
XRevan86schestowitz: But weren't popular in XIX century in people's minds.Jan 31 11:56
schestowitz"Nazi Germany with its allies invaded the Soviet Union in 1941. Many Ukrainians initially regarded the Wehrmacht soldiers as liberators from Soviet rule, while others formed a partisan movement. Some elements of the Ukrainian nationalist underground formed a Ukrainian Insurgent Army that fought both Soviet forces and the Nazi. Others collaborated with the Germans."Jan 31 11:56
XRevan86One of Lenin's ideas was having Ukraine as a Soviet state.Jan 31 11:57
XRevan86so the idea was bringed upJan 31 11:57
XRevan86and later after that Ukrainian nationalism risen as an anti-Soviet movement.Jan 31 11:58
schestowitzbecause of the recent historyJan 31 11:59
XRevan86and Nazi helped, so... Hitler was a much better guy for independent Ukraine than Stalin was, naturally.Jan 31 11:59
XRevan86Nazis*Jan 31 11:59
msb_Immediately after the Bolshevik Revolution, Russia was invaded by armies from several capitalist nations, who murdered millions of Russians.  This was long before Stalin abused Ukraine or the Soviets did much of anything wrong.  The capitalist nations attacked the USSR because socialism threatened the profits of ultra-wealthy capitalists.  That's the same reason that some ultra-wealthy Americans provided 75% of the money for Hitler's Jan 31 12:00
msb_military buildup -- to have him destroy socialism in the USSR and in Europe (where it was getting quite popular).Jan 31 12:00
XRevan86But in 1920 it was all not yet successful.Jan 31 12:00
MinceRagain, msb_ calls stalinism "socialism"Jan 31 12:00
MinceRdidn't take longJan 31 12:00
schestowitzI have an idea for derailing the Sanders campaignJan 31 12:01
schestowitzmake msb_ a vocal proponent onlineJan 31 12:01
MinceRlolJan 31 12:01
msb_XRevan86:  You mean the invasion in 1920 did not succeed in destroying socialism in the USSR?Jan 31 12:01
XRevan86msb_: No, I meant that idea of Ukrainian nation was not yet there in people's minds massively back in 1920s.Jan 31 12:02
schestowitz"His father was born on September 19, 1904, in Słopnice, Poland" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_SandersJan 31 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogryf ]Jan 31 12:02
MinceRany relation to Colonel Sanders?Jan 31 12:02
schestowitz"A guy named Adolf Hitler won an election in 1932. He won an election, and 50 million people died as a result"Jan 31 12:02
MinceRnazis today love to brag about how their idols came to power by winning elections tooJan 31 12:03
schestowitz"Sanders's elder brother, Larry Sanders, lives in England.[40] He was a Green Party county councillor representing the East Oxford division on Oxfordshire County Council, until he retired from the Council in 2013.'Jan 31 12:03
schestowitzDidn't know that..Jan 31 12:03
msb_MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!  First of all, Stalinism did not exist in 1920.  Second, there are good and bad forms of socialism.  Stalinism was a bad form, as I have said many times, when you keep lying about me.Jan 31 12:04
MinceRright, this time msb_ called leninism "socialism"Jan 31 12:04
MinceRsame thing, with slightly less killingJan 31 12:04
MinceRso much better!Jan 31 12:04
MinceRsee, kids, totalitarian dictatorship is totally OK, so long as you use the right symbols (hammer+sickle, red star) and kill a bit fewer people!Jan 31 12:05
MinceRmsb_: so, leninism is a "good form" of "socialism"?Jan 31 12:05
*MinceR wonders where the threshold isJan 31 12:05
XRevan86MinceR: What is leninism?Jan 31 12:05
MinceRXRevan86: lenin's brand of "socialist"/"communist"/etc. totalitarian dictatorship, which was then developed further by his apprentice stalinJan 31 12:06
XRevan86MinceR: Sorry, I didn't read Lenin's work.Jan 31 12:06
MinceRXRevan86: have you seen his legacy?Jan 31 12:07
XRevan86MinceR: He didn't do much.Jan 31 12:07
XRevan86he died earlyJan 31 12:07
schestowitz[person's name]ism is just a person's legacyJan 31 12:07
MinceRanother way to make dictatorship acceptable: die quickly!Jan 31 12:07
schestowitzeasily to define than labels like Socialism, unlike MarxismJan 31 12:08
MinceR"socialists" fought hard to strip the label "socialism" of all meaningJan 31 12:08
msb_Lenin was also too authoritarian, but since the capitalist nations had alread invaded Russia and murdered millions of Russians, Lenin knew that the USSR had to industrialize rapidly to defend against more capitalist military attacks.Jan 31 12:08
schestowitzMinceR: die quickly..Jan 31 12:08
schestowitz!google rreplican plan die quickly..Jan 31 12:08
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsJan 31 12:08
MinceRyeah, the external enemy excuseJan 31 12:08
MinceRmakes everything acceptableJan 31 12:08
schestowitz!google republican plan die quickly..Jan 31 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Alan Grayson - Wikiquote | https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alan_GraysonJan 31 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Six Most Outrageous Quotes from Rep. Alan Grayson | Mother Jones | http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/best-quotes-alan-graysonJan 31 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Alan Grayson on the GOP Health Care Plan: "Don't Get Sick! And if ... | https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D-usmvYOPfcoJan 31 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The GOP's Healthcare Plan: Get Sick, Die Quickly | The Nation | http://www.thenation.com/article/gops-healthcare-plan-get-sick-die-quickly/Jan 31 12:08
MinceRmsb_: guess what, hitler's dictatorship had external enemies too (and internal ones as well)Jan 31 12:09
XRevan86MinceR: So he ruled during the civil war.Jan 31 12:09
msb_MinceR: Not relevant to USSR.Jan 31 12:09
XRevan86then became a cabbage and died from syphilisJan 31 12:10
MinceRmsb_: could you show me the function that determines whether something is relevant to USSR?Jan 31 12:10
MinceRoh wait, it's called random()Jan 31 12:10
XRevan86some dictatorshipJan 31 12:10
msb_When people are lethally attacked, they become more willing to accept authoritarian rule in order that it  protect them.Jan 31 12:10
MinceRah, so that's why you're so fond of such attacksJan 31 12:11
msb_In Wilhelm Reich terminology, this is called "becoming armored".Jan 31 12:11
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Lenin-last-photo.jpgJan 31 12:12
msb_MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!  I have never said that I'm fond of lethal attacks.Jan 31 12:12
schestowitzit looks like Lenin stands next to LeninJan 31 12:12
XRevan86schestowitz: Huh?Jan 31 12:13
schestowitzwhich is probably what it is, brother or fatherJan 31 12:13
schestowitzhe looks like Che with a hat hereJan 31 12:13
XRevan86I don't see similiaritiesJan 31 12:13
schestowitzsame hat, tooJan 31 12:13
MinceRmsb_: not with those exact words?Jan 31 12:13
MinceRmsb_: why deny you've said something when everything you say is meaningless anyway?Jan 31 12:14
msb_MinceR: Not with any words.  If you say I have, then quote me exactly, giving the date.Jan 31 12:14
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Ленин_в_Горках_%281923%29.jpg and another oneJan 31 12:14
MinceR"colorless green ideas sleep furiously"Jan 31 12:14
XRevan86Dictator that doesn't dictate.Jan 31 12:15
MinceRnow show us pictures of hitler as a baby to prove he wasn't a dictator eitherJan 31 12:15
XRevan86MinceR: That was shortly after the civil war.Jan 31 12:15
MinceRplumbing new depths of argumentationJan 31 12:15
MinceRXRevan86: the civil war that led to the ussr?Jan 31 12:16
XRevan86MinceR: No, civil war that was shortly after the revolution.Jan 31 12:16
XRevan86MinceR: Soviets were against Emperor, Church and god himself.Jan 31 12:17
XRevan86people revoltedJan 31 12:17
MinceRlolJan 31 12:18
MinceR"god himself"Jan 31 12:18
XRevan86MinceR: yes :)Jan 31 12:18
MinceRthey certainly knew very well whose side a person who never existed stood onJan 31 12:18
XRevan86MinceR: Especially that's true for villages.Jan 31 12:18
XRevan86People believed in Emperor and mysticism.Jan 31 12:19
XRevan86and then suddenly power is in hands of "godless" non-Romanov'sJan 31 12:20
XRevan86(atheists)Jan 31 12:20
XRevan86(Romanov is a surname of the last dynasty)Jan 31 12:21
MinceRso then they deified some of those non-romanovsJan 31 12:21
MinceRput their pictures everywhereJan 31 12:21
MinceRbelieved their words without criticismJan 31 12:21
XRevan86MinceR: You're confusing with Stalin.Jan 31 12:21
MinceReven though they were clearly nonsenseJan 31 12:21
MinceRXRevan86: at least in hungaristan, lenin was deified as wellJan 31 12:21
XRevan86Civil War was before Stalin's reign.Jan 31 12:21
MinceRthough not necessary in his lifeJan 31 12:21
XRevan86MinceR: Stalin created a cult of Lenin (not my words).Jan 31 12:22
MinceRand of himselfJan 31 12:22
XRevan86MinceR: yesJan 31 12:22
XRevan86but that's afterJan 31 12:22
MinceRthe derivative of this is still ongoing (and taken to further extremes) in north koreaJan 31 12:22
XRevan86MinceR: yeasJan 31 12:22
XRevan86yes*Jan 31 12:22
MinceRthe first necrocracy on earth :>Jan 31 12:23
XRevan86MinceR: Not the first one.Jan 31 12:24
XRevan86MinceR: Remember religion-based states.Jan 31 12:24
XRevan86with icons of dead people and worshippers of thoseJan 31 12:24
MinceRdid those have a dead person as the official leader?Jan 31 12:25
XRevan86Jesus here is pretty much like Lenin, he himself didn't do much.Jan 31 12:25
XRevan86MinceR: yesJan 31 12:25
MinceR:)Jan 31 12:25
msb_MinceR: The US murdered 30% of the people in North Korea in the Korean War, many by dropping jellied gasoline on them.  Imagine how you would feel if that happened to you or your family.  Many of the survivors ended up living in caves.  This is why the North Koreans armored up and accept a bizarre authoritarian regime.Jan 31 12:26
MinceRah, that justifies everythingJan 31 12:26
MinceRpeople died, time to oppress everybodyJan 31 12:26
MinceRand then kill everybodyJan 31 12:26
MinceRgood job, human speciesJan 31 12:26
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Thecristisrizenoldrussiancivilwarposter.jpgJan 31 12:26
XRevan86Text below: Christ has risenJan 31 12:28
XRevan86on the shield: God is with us, Russia will riseJan 31 12:28
XRevan86(Съ нами Богъ, да воскреснетъ Россiя; христосъ воскресе!..)Jan 31 12:30
msb_People are designed to live in a warm, kind, mutually helpful environment, like bonobos have.  When they are subjected to horrible violence, torture and death, they get post-traumatic stress disorder -- PTSD.  That's the way we're built.  It has nothing to do with justifying anything.Jan 31 12:30
MinceRpeople are not "designed"Jan 31 12:30
XRevan86wired :)Jan 31 12:30
msb_evolvedJan 31 12:30
MinceRand people have never lived in a "warm, kind, mutually helpful environment"Jan 31 12:30
MinceRpeople live in the hell that is their own makingJan 31 12:31
XRevan86MinceR: People surely want it, but humans are dumb.Jan 31 12:31
MinceRthey're surely dumb but i'm not sure what they wantJan 31 12:31
MinceRif they were as smart as they gave credit for, they should realize they're destroying themselvesJan 31 12:32
msb_MinceR: You have an emotional illness that makes you think that.  Some people are born, grow up, and live in a congenial environment.Jan 31 12:32
MinceRthey keep making _obviously_ self-destructive choicesJan 31 12:32
MinceRlike voting for orban and putinJan 31 12:32
MinceRthough the latter might be ascribed to election fraudJan 31 12:32
MinceR146% and all thatJan 31 12:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/693848235476127746Jan 31 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz also 2 other OIN talks.Jan 31 12:32
schestowitzI want to embed or upload all, plus comments on them...Jan 31 12:33
MinceRmsb_: where is this "congenial environment"? in the holy russian empire?Jan 31 12:33
MinceRmsb_: or perhaps in Jesusland?Jan 31 12:34
XRevan86Additionally about Civil War: A lot of Russians believed that Soviets are enemies of Russia itself as they are enemies of Emperor's regime, because they thought Russia == Emperor.Jan 31 12:35
msb_MinceR: I don't know.  But we were developing it in the 1960s in the US -- the Woodstock Nation -- especially with the help of the widespread use of cannabis.Jan 31 12:36
MinceRso it was a dream that could not last?Jan 31 12:37
XRevan86(a lot but not as much as reformists apparently, because "whites" lost)Jan 31 12:37
MinceR(because humans being what they are)Jan 31 12:37
msb_It was destroyed from the outside by corporatist/govt attacks.Jan 31 12:37
msb_Jean Liedloff wrote a book called The Continuum Concept, about a society she found in Venezuela in which parents treat their children very gently.Jan 31 12:44
msb_They grow up to be very kind and cooperative.Jan 31 12:45
msb_She realized that our idea of human nature -- like MinceR's but not as severe -- was all wrong.Jan 31 12:46
cubexyzwell sure, I bet if you looked at murderers and violent criminals you would probably find a bad pastJan 31 12:47
cubexyzgood mentoring is very importantJan 31 12:47
msb_Nobody is born bad or antisocial, but unkind upbringing, from infancy makes them that way.  It's PTSD.Jan 31 12:47
msb_https://vimeo.com/46465730Jan 31 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vimeo.com | Jean Leidloff - The Continuum Concept on VimeoJan 31 12:50
MinceRwell yeah, if humanity stopped systematically abusing their children, that would probably help a lotJan 31 12:52
MinceRbut it's not like they'll do thatJan 31 12:52
msb_Download it with videodownloadhelper and watch it.  It can change your life!Jan 31 12:53
MinceRthere are some human instincts that are pretty destructive thoughJan 31 12:55
MinceRit needs training and/or willpower to overcomeJan 31 12:55
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MinceRand some of that is not really solved yet, afaikJan 31 13:01
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msb_MinceR: Humans have an instinct for psychopathy -- control or kill everyone else and then I will be safe -- but it does not get activated unless the person is severely stressed in childhood.Jan 31 13:02
MinceRthat's far from the only oneJan 31 13:03
MinceRfor example babies instinctually respond worse to people with different skin color, iircJan 31 13:03
MinceRthen there's the issue of being incapable of treating more than ~100 people as 'being in the same tribe' -- that is, as alliesJan 31 13:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD and Intel Graphics https://t.co/7ae6b3YNViJan 31 13:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD and Intel Graphics | Tux MachinesJan 31 13:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/693851882608005122Jan 31 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz the cirkel seems to be closed again. So lets fork the @linuxfoundation? #Patrick_in_wonderland :)Jan 31 13:14
schestowitzBetter just support FSF for now, today's the last day to help support them!Jan 31 13:14
msb_MinceR: There are more than 100 people in the tribe Liedloff found.  And they didn't have any problem with her pink skin color.Jan 31 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/693860698024189952Jan 31 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz @linuxfoundation I've been doing so for years. We'll see what follows now.Jan 31 13:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/693861559039348737Jan 31 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz write a letter to FOSDEM organizers, I will second it. MP4 is full of patents.Jan 31 13:26
schestowitzAnd FOSS-hostile for many reasons. What's the F in FOSDEM? F* this s*.Jan 31 13:26
MinceRmsb_: with reason, humans can overcome many (if not all) instincts. but most people aren't willing to use reasonJan 31 13:33
msb_If kids are raised right, the psychopath instinct never gets activated.Jan 31 13:35
msb_MinceR: Anyhow, if you watch this video, and read the chalice and the blade, and read that RET booklet that I found for you, and make an effort, you should be able to overcome your paranoia and depression.  I hope you do, because you are really smart, and I like you, and you could contribute a lot.Jan 31 13:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 40% for #PirateParty in #iceland http://www.electograph.com/2016/01/iceland-january-2016-frettablaisto-2.html?m=1 @Falkvinge did succeed in at least one countryJan 31 14:31
schestowitz"Jan 31 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.electograph.com | ICELAND, January 2016. Fréttablaðið/Stöð 2 poll ~ electograph [ http://ur1.ca/ogshn ]Jan 31 14:31
schestowitzThis is just the beginning. Europe is becoming more polarized politically and I see the pirate party as a manifestation of that.Jan 31 14:31
schestowitzIceland is about to become the “#1 threat to US security” as was Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, and other “rouge” states.Jan 31 14:31
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schestowitz"NetworkManager is too slow… prefer systemd-networkd."Jan 31 14:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6999457Jan 31 14:34
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schestowitz"Ah, is that why he overcompensates?"Jan 31 14:34
MinceRnetworkmanager and systemd are both poetteringwareJan 31 15:07
DaemonFChttp://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-update-versus-ubuntu-update/Jan 31 15:16
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DaemonFCWell, Ed Bott's article is now irrelevant.Jan 31 15:16
DaemonFCWindows 10 ham fists everything in as a mandatory update which is immediately installed whether you want it or not.Jan 31 15:17
DaemonFCEven if the update is a video driver that was known to be broken before Microsoft pushed it out.Jan 31 15:17
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cubexyzbasically the users have no control with windows 10Jan 31 15:24
cubexyznot that they ever had much control on previous versions of windows, but now it's just ridiculousJan 31 15:29
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693925355837587456Jan 31 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I deleted my Dropbox a very long time ago. I'm ashamed of my colleague :))Jan 31 17:36
schestowitzhe also did skype promotion today, it harvests address books for unaware victims (who install this malware)Jan 31 17:36
MinceRmsb_: do you have an epub of The Continuum Concept?Jan 31 17:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693926069792018432Jan 31 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz yeah, sadly, I saw that...Jan 31 17:50
schestowitzNext up: Mono ;-)Jan 31 17:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/693928126041169922Jan 31 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @MMFlint https://t.co/CXXsPcj6LMJan 31 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | On Twitter, Bernie Sanders’s supporters are becoming one of his biggest problems - The Washington PostJan 31 17:51
MinceRhttps://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12670192_1705761742971458_5488556742352857361_n.jpg?oh=e8e8c14542f101bec977d73bfd53d15d&oe=57395058Jan 31 17:52
schestowitzDays ago he backtracked, withdrew, and expressed support for Sanders. Not sure if you saw that...Jan 31 17:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693929871207186434Jan 31 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Ha ha :D I need to have a chat with him for some real #Linux software reviews for February... ;)Jan 31 17:54
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msb_Those SBCs are amazing!  The Orange Pi Plus has 4 cores and 1GB of RAM, $39 and all necessary cables and accessories are available.  I think the postage is $1/item, but I'm not sure.  Of course it runs Linux.Jan 31 18:31
msb_http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1553371Jan 31 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aliexpress.com | Shenzhen Xunlong Software CO.,Limited - Small Orders Online Store, Hot Selling adapter 24v,adapter australia,adaptive toys and more on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba GroupJan 31 18:31
MinceRi hope they take support as seriously as the raspberry pi guysJan 31 18:32
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msb_I'm having trouble contacting their website.  I got it previously.  http://www.orangepi.org/orangepipc/Jan 31 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.orangepi.org | orange pi pc - OrangepiJan 31 18:37
msb_came in this time, and the bot got itJan 31 18:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/z31r4m/status/693941526074773505Jan 31 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@z31r4m: @schestowitz “Washington Compost” but I get where you’re going with that. @EnVogueRogueJan 31 18:40
msb_orange  pi plus 2 has 2GB of RAM, $53 shippedJan 31 18:41
MinceR:)Jan 31 18:42
msb_There are 9 people in #orangepiJan 31 18:42
msb_If you have a tv you can hook it to, and buy a cheap keyboard, mouse and disk, you can probably get the whole thing for $150Jan 31 18:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating System Running on...'Jan 31 18:45
msb_Imagine being a kid today and getting that!Jan 31 18:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First PointJan 31 18:45
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msb_I was very happy with an IBM-PC with 640KB of RAM and a much less powerful processor.Jan 31 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating SystemJan 31 18:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating System Running on NanoPi 2 SBC | Tux MachinesJan 31 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases!Jan 31 18:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases! | Tux MachinesJan 31 18:47
msb_And I was 40 at the time.Jan 31 18:47
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schestowitzhttp://www8.hp.com/us/en/cloud/helion-eucalyptus-overview.htmlJan 31 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www8.hp.com | HPE Helion Eucalyptus | Hewlett Packard Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/ogth9 ]Jan 31 18:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/martenmickos/status/693942946761039874Jan 31 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@martenmickos: @schestowitz here: https://t.co/qxGC3IwZZS and thanks @Metztli_ITJan 31 18:55
schestowitz Good. Is it still as FOSS as before?Jan 31 19:06
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating System Running on...'Jan 31 19:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Parkitect, the theme park building sim isJan 31 19:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Parkitect, the theme park building sim is currently broken on Linux | GamingOnLinuxJan 31 19:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases!Jan 31 19:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-milianw.de | KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases! | Milian WolffJan 31 19:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.4.1 https://t.co/SqUNVIPmti (lwn.net)Jan 31 19:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.3.5 https://t.co/8nojYjDZnX (lwn.net)Jan 31 19:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.1.17 https://t.co/Psmvi5nU3I (lwn.net)Jan 31 19:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What’s going on with GNOME To DoJan 31 19:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | What’s going on with GNOME To Do | Georges StavracasJan 31 19:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a NewJan 31 19:40
TweetTuxMachines                 MythTV Theme for the OS https://t.co/VccPCFcLA4Jan 31 19:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a New MythTV Theme for the OSJan 31 19:40
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a...'Jan 31 19:43
TweetTuxMachines@LinuxTopNews    Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First PointJan 31 19:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Release, Adds... https://t.co/gEtugZnO9zJan 31 19:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachinesJan 31 19:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 FixesJan 31 19:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxTopNews: Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds... https://t.co/gEtugZnO9z via @tuxmachines https://t.co/qWKRodHvplJan 31 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenGL 4.4's Query Buffer Object SupportJan 31 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Appears Nearly Ready For NouveauJan 31 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/scv39EUUax (www.phoronix.com)Jan 31 19:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | OpenGL 4.4's Query Buffer Object Support Appears Nearly Ready For Nouveau - PhoronixJan 31 19:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693961557206761473Jan 31 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I think you'll love this ;)Jan 31 20:02
schestowitzWe shall see. If it's production-ready.Jan 31 20:02
schestowitzThe latest kde build, compiled for 15.10, did fix some severe bugs (trying it for 2 days now)Jan 31 20:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet KDE Neon, Everything You Love About KDE onJan 31 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Top of Ubuntu Linux https://t.co/pwD2KKQwewJan 31 20:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meet KDE Neon, Everything You Love About KDE on Top of Ubuntu LinuxJan 31 20:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meet KDE Neon, Everything You Love About KDE...'Jan 31 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Plasma Mobile on Wayland Full Review -Jan 31 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Welcome To The KDE Prototype For Mobile DevicesJan 31 20:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | KDE Plasma Mobile on Wayland Full Review - Welcome To The KDE Prototype For Mobile Devices - YouTubeJan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Experiences with deepin 15Jan 31 20:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Jan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "They want us to think it's impossible toJan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 communicate...private... to believe it's nearJan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 impossible to use Linux."Jan 31 20:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-formerim.com | Have Tech Giants Brainwashed Us Blind?Jan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.4.1 https://t.co/DxgsD0EISNJan 31 20:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.4.1 | Tux MachinesJan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What’s going on with GNOME To DoJan 31 20:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s going on with GNOME To Do | Tux MachinesJan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a NewJan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 MythTV Theme for the OS https://t.co/WTtfoRiKwwJan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 31 20:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a New MythTV Theme for the OS | Tux MachinesJan 31 20:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/IC3fwWfZyUJan 31 20:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Experiences with deepin 15Jan 31 20:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Experiences with deepin 15 | Tux MachinesJan 31 20:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a...'Jan 31 20:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Simplicity Linux 16.01 is now available forJan 31 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-simplicitylinux.org | Simplicity Linux 16.01 is now available for download - Simplicity LinuxJan 31 20:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Make Your Own TOR Proxy Router With AJan 31 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi https://t.co/SwAJ8fxyr4Jan 31 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | How To Make Your Own TOR Proxy Router With A Raspberry PiJan 31 20:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Programmer Makes Self-driving Toy Car PoweredJan 31 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 By Raspberry Pi, Arduino, PythonJan 31 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cCB3gW44Du (fossbytes.com)Jan 31 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Programmer Makes Self-driving Toy Car Powered By Raspberry Pi, Arduino, PythonJan 31 20:23
*TweetTuxMachines @arduinoNewsBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Programmer Makes Self-driving Toy Car Powered By Raspberry...'Jan 31 20:25
*TweetTuxMachines @feliperdonatti retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Programmer Makes Self-driving Toy Car Powered By Raspberry...'Jan 31 20:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing forJan 31 20:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Audio Production, Coming SoonJan 31 20:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing for Audio Production, Coming SoonJan 31 20:28
TweetTuxMachines@LinuxTopNews    Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First PointJan 31 20:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 FixesJan 31 20:30
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing for Audio...'Jan 31 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.10.96 LTS Has Networking andJan 31 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Sound Enhancements, Updated DriversJan 31 20:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.10.96 LTS Has Networking and Sound Enhancements, Updated DriversJan 31 20:31
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schestowitzhttp://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/amazon-becoming-just-another-mortal-companyJan 31 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com | Amazon Is Becoming Just Another Mortal Company | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/ogtvs ]Jan 31 20:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Simplicity Linux 16.01 is now available for download | Tux MachinesJan 31 21:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing forJan 31 21:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Audio Production, Coming SoonJan 31 21:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing for Audio Production, Coming Soon | Tux MachinesJan 31 21:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.10.96 LTS Has Networking andJan 31 21:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Sound Enhancements, Updated DriversJan 31 21:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.10.96 LTS Has Networking and Sound Enhancements, Updated Drivers | Tux MachinesJan 31 21:41
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cubexyzhow is Iceland a 'threat'?Jan 31 21:43
*cubexyz just doesn't understand the worldJan 31 21:44
oiaohmcubexyz: http://www.livescience.com/50004-iceland-eruption-ends-bardarbunga.htmlJan 31 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.livescience.com | Iceland's Largest Eruption Ends…Maybe [ http://ur1.ca/ogu3z ]Jan 31 21:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing for Audio...'Jan 31 21:58
TweetTuxMachines@LinuxTopNews    Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First PointJan 31 21:58
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Release, Adds... https://t.co/gEtugZnO9zJan 31 21:58
TweetTuxMachines @CyberConsulting  (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachinesJan 31 21:58
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oiaohmcubexyz: if they are talking about the volcano problem in lcelenad I can understand the threat problem.Jan 31 21:58
msb_cubexyz: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iceland-has-jailed-26-bankers-why-wont-we-a6735411.htmlJan 31 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Iceland has jailed 26 bankers, why won't we? | Voices | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/ogu5g ]Jan 31 22:12
msb_http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/10/23/3715775/iceland-jails-bankers-and-survives/Jan 31 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Iceland, Where Bankers Actually Go To Jail For Committing White-Collar Crimes | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/ogu5k ]Jan 31 22:13
msb_Iceland is a threat  to some of the most powerful thieving psychopaths that control the world.Jan 31 22:14
msb_cubexyz: The banksters crashed the world economy in 2008 by gathering together mortgages that couldn't be paid and falsely rating the grouped mortgages as good investments, sold them to various governments, retirement funds, etc, which then lost huge amounts of money to the banksters.Jan 31 22:18
msb_Obomber brought some of the biggest banking criminals into the US govt and put them in control of financial matters as high officials.Jan 31 22:19
msb_Obomber decreed that the banks were "too big to be allowed to fail" and gave them TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS of money from US taxpayers.Jan 31 22:21
msb_!google iceland bankersJan 31 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Iceland has jailed 26 bankers, why won't we? | Voices | The ... | http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iceland-has-jailed-26-bankers-why-wont-we-a6735411.htmlJan 31 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Iceland, Where Bankers Actually Go To Jail For Committing White ... | http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/10/23/3715775/iceland-jails-bankers-and-survives/Jan 31 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - If Iceland Can Jail Bankers For The Crash Then Why Can't America ... | http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/10/24/if-iceland-can-jail-bankers-for-the-crash-then-why-cant-america/Jan 31 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Iceland: Where Bankers Go to Jail for 74 Years - The Daily Beast | http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/23/iceland-where-bankers-go-to-jail-for-74-years.htmlJan 31 22:28
msb_I didn't know mere mortals can do that, but it works!Jan 31 22:28
oiaohmmsb_: http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/07/31/china-sentences-6-bankers-to-death-for-looting/  nothing is quite as scary as china for bankers.Jan 31 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalvelcraft.org | China Sentences 6 Bankers To Death For Looting. | Political Vel Craft [ http://ur1.ca/ogu72 ]Jan 31 22:30
msb_Interesting website:  it links to one of the same  9/11 research  videos that I do  --  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98&feature=youtu.beJan 31 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogu83 ]Jan 31 22:39
msb_and much more, all here:   http://politicalvelcraft.org/false-flags/Jan 31 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalvelcraft.org | False Flags | Political Vel Craft [ http://ur1.ca/ogu8b ]Jan 31 22:40
msb_“Al-Qaida,(sic) literally ‘the database,’ was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians,” admits former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook, whose Foreign Office portfolio included control of British Intelligence Agency MI-6 and the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), in a column published by the UK Guardian newspaper.Jan 31 22:47
msb_The mujahideen were a bunch of Islamic crazy killers who were armed by the US to attack the secular, Russia-allied government of Afghanistan in the 1980s.Jan 31 22:57
msb_The US gave them surface-to-air missiles to shoot down aircraft.Jan 31 22:58
msb_To summarize: the US created large-scale Islamic terrorism in the 1980s to harass Russia, because socialism -- even the crappy USSR kind -- threatened the profits of the ultra-wealthy.Jan 31 23:12
MinceRi wonder how the USSR kind of "socialism" threatened the profits of the most powerful "socialist" party membersJan 31 23:13
MinceRi guess it did so by rendering their economy unworkableJan 31 23:13
msb_The mujahideen eventually succeeded, replacing the secular Afghan  govt with the head-chopper clit-cutter Taliban.  During the 1990s US agent Boris Yeltsin dissolved the USSR and wrecked the Russian economy.  Jan 31 23:14
MinceRyes, Yeltsin travelled back to before his birth and established the "socialist" economy that ruined russiaJan 31 23:15
msb_This left the US weapons industry with nothing to do for a profit, so "a new Pearl Harbor" was required.  That was 9-11, proved to be a  US false-flag terror operation by simple physical analysis of the collapse videos of WTC1 and WTC7 proving that they were demolished with explosives.Jan 31 23:16
MinceRrejoice, for the russian empire is backJan 31 23:18
MinceRand they're more than willing to fire off all the nukes left over from the ussr for a bit of attentionJan 31 23:19
msb_The Russian economy had been working, if poorly, under the USSR's authoritarian state socialism, but Yeltsin sold off the state assets at 10% of their value to wealthy capitalists, plunging the economy into ruin.Jan 31 23:19
msb_Using its false-flag 9/11 attack as pretext, the US attacked Afghanistan, murdering 1,000,000 people, to get rid of the Taliban that the US had purposely installed 20  years before.Jan 31 23:22
msb_The US attacked Iraq to get rid of the evil Sadaam Hussein, whom it had installed to replace a beneficial socialist many decades before.Jan 31 23:23
MinceRthere's no such thing as a "beneficial socialist"Jan 31 23:24
msb_This attack murdered another 1,000,000 Iraquis, added to the previous million murdered by the Bush and Clinton regimes in the 1990s.Jan 31 23:24
msb_In 2011, Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, and Obama, attacked Libya, murdering its president Gadaffi and hundreds of thousands of its people.  Gadaffi was a socialist who gave the nation's oil profits to the people, giving them free housing and education to the university level, and terrifying the 1% capitalists who owned 99% of the wealth and control the US govt.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek Jan 31 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Libya Truth (DnB Soundtrack) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jld5s ]Jan 31 23:28
MinceRoh, they murdered a poor defenseless dictatorJan 31 23:29
MinceRthe bastards.Jan 31 23:29
msb_Libya had had the highest standard of living of any African nation.  Now its people are starving, and Libya and Iraq have been partly taken over by ISIL -- total murdering psychopath robots -- which are what the US armed and financed mujahideen/Al-Qaeda have morphed into.Jan 31 23:32
MinceRi'd ask the south africans about thatJan 31 23:32
MinceRalso, the people of seychellesJan 31 23:33
MinceRand equatorial guineaJan 31 23:33
msb_The US then attacked Syria by arming Islamic opposition fighters against the Assad government, which opposed the petroDOLLAR system and opposed Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.  Jan 31 23:34
msb_The Islamics armed by the US then either dropped their weapons for ISIL to pick up, or actually joined ISIL.  Until the Russians, with Assad's approval, starting bombing ISIL in Syria, it looked like ISIL was going to take over the entire Middle East.  This suited the US ally Israel, which decades before had declared that half of the ME should eventually comprise "Greater Israel".Jan 31 23:37
msb_Contrary to what the deluded and obsessed MinceR says, Gaddafi in Libya, Daniel Ortega (elected) in Nicaragua, and Fidel Castro in Cuba were all beneficial socialists, who enabled good economies for their nations, despite all being attacked militarily by the US.Jan 31 23:43
MinceRand those economies were so "good" that msb_ doesn't want to live in any of themJan 31 23:45
msb_As I've said, I'm 70 years old and have medical problems.  I'm on social security, which I paid for during my working  years.  The US govt has not threatened me, so I have no reason to move.Jan 31 23:47
msb_As to dictators and democracy, if Gaddafi wasn't elected by US election standards, but enabled very good lives for the people of Libya, then the US calls him an "evil dictator", worthy of being murdered.Jan 31 23:50
msb_Whereas if a ruler is elected by a totally corrupt system, like we have in the US, in which both parties are completely controlled by the ultra-wealthy, and that ruler murders millions of people for the benefit of the ultra-wealthy, like GHW Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama have done, that's perfectly fine, because they were "elected" by (totally fake) "democracy".Jan 31 23:54
msb_Stalinist authoritarian state socialism treated Hungary, where MinceR lives, very badly 60 years ago, and he has become traumatized and deluded  by this, and projects the evil of that particularly bad variety of socialism onto all varieties of socialism.Feb 01 00:05
msb_Hungary is still experiencing the PTSD from that, after two generations, and is still a mess, similar to North Korea after having 1/3 of its population murdered by the US, but Hungary is not as badly messed up as NK.Feb 01 00:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/martenmickos/status/693990281213923328Feb 01 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@martenmickos: @schestowitz afaikFeb 01 03:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/694022073673453569Feb 01 03:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I actually agree with the Bern to some extent re. Wall Street, a context in which other Democrats are venal hypocrites.Feb 01 03:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/694071402064908288Feb 01 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz https://t.co/EMwC5tJ09yFeb 01 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UKParliament: Cost of Investigatory Powers Bill could undermine UK Tech sector says report published by @CommonsSTC https://t.co/DKhELg6NjAFeb 01 03:52
schestowitz> http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-10/Feb 01 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wmpoweruser.com | Windows 10 Build 14251 may have a mysterious Linux sub-system - WMPoweruserFeb 01 04:13
schestowitz> Feb 01 04:13
schestowitz> license violation?Feb 01 04:13
schestowitzI saw that last night, but not in other sources...Feb 01 04:13
oiaohmschestowitz: not sure but it would 100 percent worth someone having a serous look.Feb 01 04:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694089719123202048Feb 01 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz this should be interesting....Feb 01 04:50
schestowitzI will write an article about it laterFeb 01 04:50
schestowitzhttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/01/31/statement-from-the-robert-lavoy-finicum-family/Feb 01 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.paulcraigroberts.org | Statement From The Robert “LaVoy” Finicum Family - PaulCraigRoberts.org [ http://ur1.ca/ogv6y ]Feb 01 05:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/694097616284598276\Feb 01 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz they were more busy watching the output of the keyloggers :-)Feb 01 05:00
schestowitzSo @jonobacon is using a Mac now http://www.jonobacon.org/2016/02/01/the-hybrid-desktop/ so much for software freedom…Feb 01 05:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jonobacon.org | The Hybrid Desktop | jonobacon@home [ http://ur1.ca/ogv7s ]Feb 01 05:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/694100769063043072Feb 01 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jonobacon: @schestowitz I have never been 100% Free Software. I primarily use open source and also some non-free apps where needed.Feb 01 05:13
schestowitzthanks for clarifyingFeb 01 05:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.5-rc2 Brings A Surprising Amount OfFeb 01 05:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Changes https://t.co/xGTf1msOz0Feb 01 05:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.5-rc2 Brings A Surprising Amount Of Changes - PhoronixFeb 01 05:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces the Second Linux Kernel 4.5 Release Candidate BuildFeb 01 05:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Story-driven RTS Battle of Empires 1914-1918Feb 01 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 looks like it's coming to Linux & SteamOSFeb 01 05:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Story-driven RTS Battle of Empires 1914-1918 looks like it's coming to Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 01 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung's Android browser gets ad blockingFeb 01 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 capabilities  https://t.co/hVQObbXMB3Feb 01 05:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Samsung's Android browser gets ad blocking capabilities | The VergeFeb 01 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nine tips to use your Android phone moreFeb 01 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 efficiently https://t.co/86YT7xnEPsFeb 01 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.smh.com.au) #android #linuxFeb 01 05:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smh.com.au | Nine tips to use your Android phone more efficientlyFeb 01 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It Looks Like Google Has Finally Caught On ToFeb 01 05:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemless Root - #AndroidPay No LongerFeb 01 05:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Compatible https://t.co/1qgPaFW1UfFeb 01 05:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | It Looks Like Google Has Finally Caught On To Systemless Root - Android Pay No Longer CompatibleFeb 01 05:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Sabayon Linux 16.02 Brings Gentoo's Latest Updates and Patches for February 2016Feb 01 06:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Getting Closer to the Rolling ReleaseFeb 01 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Model https://t.co/MRlxyxeoNuFeb 01 06:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Getting Closer to the Rolling Release ModelFeb 01 06:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Elementary OS Theme Replicates the OldFeb 01 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 8.04 Look and FeelFeb 01 06:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Elementary OS Theme Replicates the Old Ubuntu 8.04 Look and FeelFeb 01 06:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu PRO 5 Running Ubuntu Leaks, Launching AtFeb 01 06:14
TweetTuxMachines                 MWC? https://t.co/E4Jzb2Y1QLFeb 01 06:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Meizu PRO 5 Running Ubuntu Leaks, Launching At MWC? | Androidheadlines.comFeb 01 06:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Panmorphia transformed for PC, Mac, and LinuxFeb 01 06:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adventuregamers.com | Panmorphia transformed for PC, Mac, and Linux - AdventureGamers.comFeb 01 06:14
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Sabayon Linux 16.02 Brings Gentoo's Latest Updates and...'Feb 01 06:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GPIO Zero and Raspberry Pi programming starterFeb 01 06:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Programming in the real world with GPIO Zero and Raspberry Pi | Opensource.comFeb 01 06:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on with Debian GNU/Linux 8.3Feb 01 07:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands on with Debian GNU/Linux 8.3 | ZDNetFeb 01 07:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Debian (FOSDEM,  Debian Activities,Feb 01 07:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Dedication to  Ian Murdock)Feb 01 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian (FOSDEM, Debian Activities, Dedication to Ian Murdock) | Tux MachinesFeb 01 07:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Brave the new champion the open web needs?Feb 01 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Brave the new champion the open web needs? | Tux MachinesFeb 01 07:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on with Debian GNU/Linux 8.3Feb 01 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands on with Debian GNU/Linux 8.3 | Tux MachinesFeb 01 07:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/sFR6ZjCKEtFeb 01 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesFeb 01 07:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/694128483824472064Feb 01 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: My first Linux distro. https://t.co/1B1fgVfKvxFeb 01 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New #ElementaryOS Theme Replicates the Old Ubuntu 8.04 Look and Feel https://t.co/ENoFhgtfaA #gnu #linuxFeb 01 07:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/694128551029657602Feb 01 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz All you need to know about Microsoft Privacy is These Hidden Windows 10 App Permissions= 0 Privacy https://t.co/OZQSv3EsNjFeb 01 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz All you need to know about Microsoft Privacy is These Hidden Windows 10 App Permissions= 0 Privacy https://t.co/OZQSv3EsNjFeb 01 07:14
schestowitzbetter yet, dump WindowsFeb 01 07:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/694129029981552641Feb 01 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: The real reason Eich was fired is his anti-DRM views. SJWs were chums and stooges for corporate interests. https://t.co/cAdmpa3lXYFeb 01 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Brave the new champion the open web needs? https://t.co/WkSpo1sUHz it's truly #freesw and hopefully never #drm unlike #mozillaFeb 01 07:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/694129373276966912Feb 01 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Nor Obama until 2012. https://t.co/5UJiO2SWDwFeb 01 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #mozilla CEO lost his job because of SJWs who are selectively witch-hunting. #clinton didn't support same-sex marriage until 2010.Feb 01 07:15
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oiaohmhttp://betanews.com/2016/01/30/stop-using-microsoft-edges-inprivate-mode-if-you-value-your-privacy/  Nice false feature.Feb 01 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Stop using Microsoft Edge's InPrivate mode if you value your privacy [ http://ur1.ca/ogvx1 ]Feb 01 07:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/694134283108155392Feb 01 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz At this rate Data Security Will Look Like this in the Year 2016: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/Vo5uEMcOydFeb 01 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.termsmayapply.com | Smartphone Application Permissions - App PermissionsFeb 01 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz At this rate Data Security Will Look Like this in the Year 2016: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/Vo5uEMcOydFeb 01 08:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/694135305494880256Feb 01 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz 4K TVs Watch You via Intrusive Apps & Hidden App Permissions: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/7vdQTOQBSeFeb 01 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz 4K TVs Watch You via Intrusive Apps & Hidden App Permissions: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/7vdQTOQBSeFeb 01 08:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/N_is_Een/status/694151504966610946Feb 01 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@N_is_Een: De Zwitserse @piratenpartij is één van de drijvende krachten achter het komende referendum over #surveillance wet. https://t.co/FR0T5EgKMBFeb 01 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How a Small Company in #Switzerland Is Fighting a #Surveillance #Law — And Winning https://t.co/asYcIL5QuSFeb 01 08:40
msb_schestowitz: WhatFeb 01 08:41
msb_schestowitz: What's the (alleged?)   story about Brendan Eich and SJWs?  Is there a writeup on that?Feb 01 08:42
schestowitzzoobab: waiting for fosdem video about upc before publishing along with slidesFeb 01 08:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/jYk7h7zN1YFeb 01 08:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 01 08:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Development News https://t.co/kUdyudiVvlFeb 01 08:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News | Tux MachinesFeb 01 08:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/mQsOXamxQlFeb 01 08:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 01 08:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/KtNLCr72D2Feb 01 08:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 01 08:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It's Official: By Means of Entryism, MicrosoftFeb 01 08:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Has Turned a Pro-Linux Nokia Into an Anti-LinuxFeb 01 08:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Patent Parasite https://t.co/zDqJlo30FFFeb 01 08:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 1/2/2016: Linux 4.5 RC2, KDevelop 5.0Feb 01 08:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Beta 2 https://t.co/BHg9EBGDqx (techrights.org)Feb 01 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It’s Official: By Means of Entryism, Microsoft Has Turned a Pro-Linux Nokia Into an Anti-Linux Patent Parasite | TechrightsFeb 01 08:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/694154135449526272Feb 01 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: Yes https://t.co/n364fHXuNuFeb 01 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: the alternative to #google for search is NOT #DuckDuckGo (spying and false marketing), use #startpage and/or #ixquickFeb 01 09:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/yLVY2laxPTFeb 01 09:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 01 09:10
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MinceR060511 < msb_> Stalinist authoritarian state socialism treated Hungary, where MinceR lives, very badly 60 years ago, and he has become traumatized and deluded  by Feb 01 10:11
MinceR               this, and projects the evil of that particularly bad variety of socialism onto all varieties of socialism.Feb 01 10:11
MinceRwrong.Feb 01 10:11
MinceRstalinism fucked up hungary for its entire duration.Feb 01 10:11
MinceRand msb_ equated that system to the utopia he also calls "socialism"Feb 01 10:11
MinceRmaking it seem as if life under one of the most brutally oppressive totalitarian dictatorships was a utopiaFeb 01 10:12
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XRevan86this againFeb 01 10:12
MinceRalso, hungarians are still addled by what stalinism taught them, they're still unwilling to think for themselves or to take on any responsibilityFeb 01 10:13
MinceRand they still expect the state to think and live in their steadFeb 01 10:13
msb_MinceR: Stop lying about me!  I _never_ said that stalinism was utopian.  Also, I have said that there are good and bad types of socialism, and that stalinism was a bad type.Feb 01 10:13
MinceRthat's how we ended up under dictatorship again since 2010.Feb 01 10:13
msb_MinceR: You are a smart person.  You have made very funny jokes.  Why is it that when you talk about me and socialism you keep lying and lying?Feb 01 10:15
MinceRmsb_: i'm not the one who tries to muddle the distinction between stalinism and anarcho-communism.Feb 01 10:16
msb_What is anarcho-communism?Feb 01 10:16
msb_I have never used that term?Feb 01 10:17
oiaohmmsb_: really if you have to ask that shows how little you know of the topic.Feb 01 10:17
oiaohmmsb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communismFeb 01 10:17
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oiaohmMinceR: personally I prefer Anarchist Communism to the term anarcho-communisim.   Since its more clean its Communism lacking key central management.Feb 01 10:22
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msb_MinceR: Quote me where I have tried to "muddle the distinction between stalinism and anarcho-communism".  Of course you won't be able to, because I never have.  You are lying about me again.Feb 01 10:23
MinceRmsb_: you keep calling stalinism "socialism" but you keep describing "socialism" with attributes people tend to apply to anarcho-communism and almost nobody is deluded enough to believe stalinism has those attributesFeb 01 10:25
MinceRlike the workers being in any sort of control whateverFeb 01 10:25
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism  anyone who knows there terms knows that stalinism is not socialism.Feb 01 10:26
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msb_I have said that there are many different types of socialism.  Some of those types don't have workers in control of anything.Feb 01 10:26
oiaohmLOLOLL really.Feb 01 10:27
MinceRyou keep saying that in "socialism", workers decide what goes and that stalinism is "socialism" -- together these two statements are obviously false.Feb 01 10:27
MinceRmsb_: yet you say stalinism is great because it's "socialism"Feb 01 10:27
MinceRunder stalinism, workers are effectively slaves owned by the slaveFeb 01 10:28
MinceRunder stalinism, workers are effectively slaves owned by the stateFeb 01 10:28
MinceRthey don't even tend to be allowed to move freelyFeb 01 10:28
MinceR(see internal passports in russia, the iron curtain and the berlin wall)Feb 01 10:28
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SocialismFeb 01 10:29
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oiaohmSocialism and Stalinsim are in fact incompatible.Feb 01 10:29
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msb_MinceR: You are lying again.  I have explicitly said that in good forms of socialism workers are in control.  I have never said that stalinism is great or has workers in control.Feb 01 10:30
oiaohmmsb_: Stalinist authoritarian state socialism treated Hungary  << That bit you said is wrong.Feb 01 10:31
MinceRyou also keep bringing up other stalinist dictatorships as exemplars to be emulated, only because they put "socialist" in the name of their stateFeb 01 10:31
oiaohmMinceR: point out to msb that he need to read what Stalinist is and socialism is because in fact Stalinist is not classed as socialism.Feb 01 10:32
MinceRoiaohm: i think he believes labels too muchFeb 01 10:32
oiaohmMinceR: Stalinist is creative dictatorship Feb 01 10:32
MinceRoiaohm: "this state calls itself 'socialist' and a 'people's democracy' so it must be great!"Feb 01 10:33
MinceRi don't see what's creative about itFeb 01 10:33
oiaohmMinceR: socialist is in fact not a type of government.Feb 01 10:34
msb_MinceR: What "stalinist dictatorships" are you claiming that I urge to emulate?Feb 01 10:34
oiaohmMinceR: socialist is a title giving to a poltical party that contains somewhere in it documents say that it going after socialism goals.Feb 01 10:35
MinceRmsb_: it changes as i look up your examples and point out that they're not nearly as great as you saidFeb 01 10:36
MinceRoiaohm: who enforces that, especially where that party is the state?Feb 01 10:36
msb_MinceR: Name them.Feb 01 10:37
MinceRoiaohm: i wouldn't go looking for rule of law in a dictatorshipFeb 01 10:37
MinceRmsb_: earlier you kept bringing up venezuela until i pointed out they have worse inequality than the usa. now you bring up nicaragua and cubaFeb 01 10:37
MinceReven though cuba being a dictatorship is pretty well knownFeb 01 10:37
MinceRoh, and libyaFeb 01 10:37
oiaohmMinceR: Socialist party in charge can equal dictatorship if they believe that it the way to get to socialism.  Why it important to split those words.Feb 01 10:37
MinceRwhich sucked so much the people revolted against the dictatorFeb 01 10:38
MinceR(not that they had any hope of putting in its place a system that's any better though)Feb 01 10:38
oiaohmMinceR: basically if a country is socialism or not you are basically ticking off check boxes.Feb 01 10:38
MinceRoiaohm: do you believe them if they say they oppress and exploit everyone because that's the way to "socialism"?Feb 01 10:38
msb_I think the people who revolted against Gaddafi were islamics instigated by the US.Feb 01 10:38
MinceRoiaohm: also, do you believe marx's fever dream that a dictatorship will one day just give up its power and hand it over to the people?Feb 01 10:39
MinceRi don't see how anyone believed that could ever workFeb 01 10:39
MinceRmsb_: you won't find much else in that region, i'm afraidFeb 01 10:39
MinceRmsb_: even some of the allegedly "socialist" leaders tend to be muslimFeb 01 10:40
MinceRlike the alawite assadsFeb 01 10:40
MinceRthat region would have to progress a lot (and avoid oblivion on the way) before it can have any hope of even a flawed democracyFeb 01 10:40
MinceRthe same is true of israelFeb 01 10:41
msb_I don't know if Gaddafi was islamic, but people were very happy with him:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6EkFeb 01 10:41
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MinceRmeanwhile religious fundamentalism is threatening to regress countries that are better off into that stateFeb 01 10:41
MinceRif not to wipe them out entirelyFeb 01 10:41
MinceRmsb_: every dictator has faithful believers/followersFeb 01 10:41
oiaohmMinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Politics  There are 8 official political structures socialism that a socialism based country has to choose 1.   None mandate oppression let alone exploiting everyone.Feb 01 10:42
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MinceRmsb_: and even if they didn't, they have enough power to have such things producedFeb 01 10:42
MinceRoiaohm: again, who enforces that?Feb 01 10:42
msb_The socialist govt of Nicaragua is elected.Feb 01 10:43
oiaohmMinceR: in fact if you read the defines of the 8 types you will find major oppression is in fact rejected by all 8.Feb 01 10:43
MinceRmsb_: that by itself means nothingFeb 01 10:43
oiaohmMinceR: basically you don't find true Socialism with those issues.   Socialist governments and the like attempt to get to Socialism got stupid at times.Feb 01 10:44
MinceRmsb_: democracy has a lot more things to it than just "electing" a government. also, once a government is elected, they can terminate democracy if they have enough power.Feb 01 10:44
MinceRoiaohm: there may well never have been a state that had "true socialism" everFeb 01 10:44
oiaohmMinceR: there are a few that are Democratic socialism that work.Feb 01 10:45
oiaohmMinceR: but they are extreme minority,Feb 01 10:46
oiaohmDemocratic Socialism is interesting one because you have democracy with state run and provided services.Feb 01 10:46
msb_MinceR: it's pointless discussing this with you, because you keep confusing edge cases with mainstream cases.  And since you seem to have oiaohm helping you, and he is insane, I'm not going to participate anymore.Feb 01 10:47
MinceRoiaohm: well, some democratic republics with a market economy were called "democratic socialism" or "social democracy"Feb 01 10:47
MinceRwhich is then used in an attempt to legitimize stalinist dictatorshipsFeb 01 10:47
MinceRmsb_: again, you are the one trying to confuse very different systems with each other, not anyone else.Feb 01 10:48
oiaohmMinceR: key point Democratic socialism the fakes did not have the required free and fair elections.     Democratic socialism is in fact a very old thing.   Goes back to how the Athens parliament run things.  Long before stalinist ideas.Feb 01 10:53
oiaohmMinceR: yes you are right when something is called some political system you do have to go and check off the required features making sure they are present.   There is a lot of claiming to be X system when they are not.Feb 01 10:55
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cubexyzok, just an old hexedit I wrote for Xenix or sysv, it works on Linux but not BSD:Feb 01 11:49
cubexyzhttp://cubeman.org/prog_files/hexedit-1.0.tar.gzFeb 01 11:50
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cubexyzI see a lot of posts about "I want a non-UEFI motherboard" but few answersFeb 01 12:03
cubexyzI mean really... just booting Linux via UEFI bricks some samsung laptopsFeb 01 12:04
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cubexyzand about LCD monitor longevity, I have a 15 year old thinkpad r30 and the LCD is starting to goFeb 01 12:09
cubexyzI suppose I'll have to replace it some dayFeb 01 12:09
cubexyzthe zaurus has a small colour LCD which works fineFeb 01 12:10
abeNd-orggoodness I havent heard zaurus in agesFeb 01 12:12
abeNd-orgthat was a neat pda back in the day, i wanted one, never managed to come up with the cash thoughFeb 01 12:13
cubexyzit's still neat :)Feb 01 12:13
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abeNd-orgI would think a repurposed old 2gb ram netbook would have more power these days though, & probably next to $0 to purchaseFeb 01 12:15
cubexyznot too many devices have IR portFeb 01 12:18
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abeNd-orgmost of the models of netbooks i remember handling had an IR portFeb 01 12:25
abeNd-orgwhat do you use the ir port with these days that a usb/bluetooth/wireless interface wouldnt work with instead?Feb 01 12:25
cubexyzwell I've done some experiments using old tv remotes on my computerFeb 01 12:27
cubexyzI wanted to learn the IRDA stuffFeb 01 12:28
abeNd-orgneat, i remember playing around with palmpilots. been meaning to try the irblaster in my phone with the tv & such, never get around to it thoughFeb 01 12:29
cubexyzI have quite a large pile of old tv remotes so ... :)Feb 01 12:31
cubexyzthe old tvs are gone, but the remotes are still thereFeb 01 12:31
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cubexyzthe range on bluetooth would be a lot betterFeb 01 12:36
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cubexyzone advantage is IRDA is directionalFeb 01 12:40
cubexyzon the other hand, bluetooth is omnidirectionalFeb 01 12:40
cubexyzthere was some other advantage I'm trying to remember...Feb 01 12:41
abeNd-orgwhat are you doing with the old remotes anyways?Feb 01 12:41
cubexyzjust running stuff on the computer, e.g. playing mp3s, selecting songsFeb 01 12:42
cubexyzbasically just using the remote to control computer functionsFeb 01 12:42
abeNd-orgcool, i remember ATI had a proprietary remote that did all that, I used the heck out of it, but they dropped driver support in XP, i never bothered fighting with it afterFeb 01 12:44
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cubexyzit always goes back to that... you really need a IRDA-SDK kit to do it rightFeb 01 12:46
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cubexyzbut it isn't hard to figure out what the tv remote does and then adjust the computer side to interpret what it sendsFeb 01 12:46
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cubexyzthere was lircdFeb 01 12:47
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cubexyzcan't remember if that was in the distro or if I added itFeb 01 12:48
cubexyzyeah back in 2008 I wrote to actisys about itFeb 01 12:51
cubexyzactisys told me about Consumer IR (CIR)Feb 01 12:52
cubexyzwas the ATI one called IR Blaster?Feb 01 12:53
cubexyzah, wait, it probably was the Remote WonderFeb 01 12:54
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abeNd-orgi think that was it. creative labs had something like it at one point, never really messed with it though. now there are a zillion wifi/bluetooth apps to control a HTPC type computer from a smartphone , no need for that old ati remoteFeb 01 12:58
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schestowitzhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/climate-historical-dataFeb 01 13:18
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abeNd-orghrm... what is up with my ISPFeb 01 13:33
abeNd-orgbilling cycle total usage : 181.81 Gb todayFeb 01 13:34
abeNd-org215.82 Gb 3 days ago....Feb 01 13:34
schestowitzdid you use that up?Feb 01 13:43
schestowitzmaybe error in the web gui/backendFeb 01 13:44
schestowitzif you can download 10gb per hour, that's not a bad ISPFeb 01 13:44
schestowitzGB in 6 minuted on averageFeb 01 13:44
schestowitz*minutesFeb 01 13:44
schestowitzbut unless you stream HD 24/7, what can that be useful for?Feb 01 13:45
schestowitz6 TB in a month?Feb 01 13:45
abeNd-orgno, 300 Gb hard limit a monthFeb 01 13:49
abeNd-orgbut somehow my total usage has gone down in the last few daysFeb 01 13:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peeters_kris1/status/694224217315905538 https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/694230373136490496  https://twitter.com/AmadeoVH/status/694230660534398977 https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/694232324330930177Feb 01 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peeters_kris1: .@AmChamBE: “Belgium’s image lies in hands of Americans doing business in BE and Belgians working for US companies” #WordtoMouth #begovFeb 01 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @peeters_kris1 @AmChamBE jammer dat ondanks onderzoeken nog steeds geen voordelen aan TTIP ontdekt zijn. #Democratie #Schande #LeugensFeb 01 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AmadeoVH: @pinguinpatje @peeters_kris1 @AmChamBE Volgens mij wel hoor. Vrije handel misschien ?Feb 01 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @AmadeoVH @peeters_kris1 @AmChamBE @glynmoody Moody, @schestowitz 2 interessante mensen om te volgen.Geen voordelen voor burgers.Feb 01 13:55
schestowitz"Moody, @schestowitz 2 interesting people to follow. No benefits for citizens."Feb 01 13:55
cubexyzmy upload speed is rather crappyFeb 01 13:58
schestowitzhttp://dazeinfo.com/2010/06/22/superstitions-across-different-countries-an-overview/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Superstitions_by_country_or_regionFeb 01 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dazeinfo.com | Superstitions across different countries - An Overview - DazeinfoFeb 01 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Category:Superstitions by country or region - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 01 14:06
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454349464783#c1907524334895974030Feb 01 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 01 14:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 14:20
schestowitz The Pigs,Feb 01 14:20
schestowitzYes, but... You are paying for an intellectual property RIGHT so that you are paying a sum for something to which you have a legal right. You are not buying a good to which a VAT is attached but rather for a legal service. The current UK govt. has attached a charge (or tax) to using the courts and that has met with opprobrium from one and all. Meanwhile IP can only be obtained at a cost. That is a tax on innovation. Feb 01 14:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 14:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 14:20
schestowitz @No taxation without...Feb 01 14:20
schestowitzHow is innovation taxed?Feb 01 14:20
schestowitzOnly the desire to be granted a monopoly is fined, by a) disclosure of the (alleged) invention, and b) fees for upholding the monopoly (renewal fees).Feb 01 14:20
schestowitzIt's not a tax, IMHO, as one can easily avoid it (by not requesting a monopoly).Feb 01 14:20
schestowitzWheher one wants to pay the "fine" for a monopoly in turn is s.th. the owner of the intellectual knowledge mst decide, depending on circumstances, which we do not need to elaborate here.Feb 01 14:20
schestowitzIf a monopoly is granted, pricing is done, which will include an element of the costs of having obtaind the patent, and the knowledge of being alone on the market. Feb 01 14:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 14:20
cubexyz"Microsoft is now actively hostile to the end user"Feb 01 14:22
cubexyzcouldn't agree moreFeb 01 14:22
schestowitzsource?Feb 01 14:53
cubexyzhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/01/31/2359234/microsoft-edges-private-browsing-mode-isnt-actually-privateFeb 01 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Microsoft Edge's Private Browsing Mode Isn't Actually Private - SlashdotFeb 01 14:56
cubexyzanonymous coward, search on "indifference"Feb 01 14:56
cubexyzcould even be a microsoft person saying itFeb 01 14:56
MinceRsurprise, surpriseFeb 01 15:03
schestowitzglad to see them being exposedFeb 01 15:05
schestowitzpeople will come to realisation that no matter what Microsoft says, it's lying, and there's no such thing as privacy at MicrosoftFeb 01 15:05
schestowitzand maybe then they'll realise they need to move to gnu/linux, except ubuntu pre-16.04 (has spyware)Feb 01 15:06
cubexyzI've seen more CrOS in the logs of lateFeb 01 15:09
cubexyzthere's still a lot NT 5.1 which I think is XPFeb 01 15:10
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36077/Feb 01 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: E.E.E. is what the corporations are all about.: Guest Article: Introduction to Microsoft’s Growing Role in the R Project Through the Linux Foundation and E.E.E.Feb 01 15:11
schestowitz"Mac OS X is indeed another terrific example why the GPL is better than a BSD licence. You can cannibalize BSD code, but you can't do the same with GPL code. Mac OS X is built from Darwin, their own port of FreeBSD. "Feb 01 15:11
schestowitz"Feb 01 15:12
schestowitzI couldn't immediately find the web page for the current release open source license list:Feb 01 15:12
schestowitzhttp://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/Feb 01 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.opensource.apple.com | Mac OS X 10.6 - SourceFeb 01 15:12
schestowitzHowever, on this list -- which isn't going to be too far from the included list in any newer OS -- the GPL is called out at least 70 times.Feb 01 15:12
schestowitzMacOSX includes BSD, Apache, and GPL code. And so does every GNU/Linux distro.Feb 01 15:12
schestowitzAgain, I'm not arguing that GPL code is going to disappear from the planet... far from it. The GPL code base will continue to grow. However, it is very likely that as FOSS becomes a larger component of commercial systems, the GPL code and the 'FOSS-ness' of the end product will be hidden as much as possible. This isn't FUD at all. It has been happening all along, and seems to now be the obvious goal of the "Linux Foundation"Feb 01 15:12
schestowitz"Feb 01 15:12
cubexyzFOSS will not disappear thoughFeb 01 15:12
cubexyztoo many people writing it for it to vanishFeb 01 15:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/694242561104461824Feb 01 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @yorickdupon @Smienos @Microsoftbe @FOSSpatents @glynmoody @schestowitz even wat Google werk doen man!Feb 01 15:15
schestowitz2https://twitter.com/yorickdupon/status/694242235282538496Feb 01 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@yorickdupon: @Smienos @pinguinpatje @Microsoftbe @FOSSpatents @glynmoody @schestowitz het grappige aan dit is dat dit Nokia niks met MS te maken heeftFeb 01 15:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen v Android Wear: Which smartwatch OS isFeb 01 15:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GPIO Zero and Raspberry Pi programming starterFeb 01 15:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GPIO Zero and Raspberry Pi programming starter projects | Tux MachinesFeb 01 15:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 Benefits of Using Open Source Software inFeb 01 15:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Benefits of Using Open Source Software in Government (Industry Perspective) | Tux MachinesFeb 01 15:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SMARC COM runs Linux or Android on quad coreFeb 01 15:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SMARC COM runs Linux or Android on quad core AM437x | Tux MachinesFeb 01 15:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Celebrating 15 Years of SELinuxFeb 01 15:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Celebrating 15 Years of SELinux | Tux MachinesFeb 01 15:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Pushes Firefox 45 Into Beta, PromisesFeb 01 16:16
TweetTuxMachines                 GTK3 Integration for Linux, AgainFeb 01 16:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Pushes Firefox 45 Into Beta, Promises GTK3 Integration for Linux, Again | Tux MachinesFeb 01 16:16
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schestowitzhttp://fossbytes.com/your-smartphone-can-be-hacked-due-to-a-backdoor-in-your-processor/Feb 01 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Your Smartphone Can Be Hacked Due To A Backdoor In Your ProcessorFeb 01 16:22
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MinceRhttp://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/features-are-faultsFeb 01 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tedunangst.com | features are faultsFeb 01 16:48
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454346803303#c834737486684226234Feb 01 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 01 17:25
schestowitz"Feb 01 17:25
schestowitz Letter of MEP A. Jongerius to European Commissioner Thyssen (Employment & Social affairs). I'm sure English translation will follow soon, the original is in Dutch.Feb 01 17:25
schestowitzhttp://www.epsu.org/IMG/pdf/Brief_Arbeidsconflict_Europees_Octrooibureau.pdf Feb 01 17:25
schestowitz"Feb 01 17:25
schestowitzCan anyone here speak Dutch? Double Dutch? ;-)Feb 01 17:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla News (Dr. Karim Lakhani, Caribou Digital) | Tux MachinesFeb 01 17:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux and FOSS Events (LCA 2016, OpenStackFeb 01 17:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BSD Impact: LLVM, Haiku OSFeb 01 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BSD Impact: LLVM, Haiku OS | Tux MachinesFeb 01 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS (UNICEF, Google, and 'Cloud') | Tux MachinesFeb 01 19:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/8IVSCRUmkQFeb 01 19:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 01 19:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Now OfficiallyFeb 01 19:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Powered by Linux Kernel 4.4 LTSFeb 01 19:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Now Officially Powered by Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS | Tux MachinesFeb 01 19:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Is Available to Download,Feb 01 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.3Feb 01 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Security Leftovers https://t.co/vgXKEyykbWFeb 01 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zenwalk 8 Beta Led Me Down a Rocky RoadFeb 01 19:04
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schestowitz"you see microsoft is running the US election with their software on the voting machines"Feb 01 20:08
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2016/02/01/microsoft-infiltrates-us-politics/Feb 01 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Infiltrates Politics and Can Engage in Election Fraud in Iowa Right Now | TechrightsFeb 01 20:08
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2015/06/06/voting-systems/Feb 01 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Microsoft Squashed Free/Open Source Software in Voting Systems in the United States | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mr6v4 ]Feb 01 20:10
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msb_Discrimination against Linux users!  About a week ago the UI fonts -- menus, etc, not page content --  in Firefox suddenly became too small to read without a magnifier program.  I was using this Firefox add-on to adjust the font size, but the author suddenly removed Linux support:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/theme-font-size-changer/   I googled the problem, found a fix on this page, and posted a review on the add-on Feb 01 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | Theme Font & Size Changer :: Add-ons for FirefoxFeb 01 20:39
msb_page so other Linux users could see it.  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/947261  Today I looked at the add-on page and found that my review had been removed!  Another review said that all reviews critical for non-support  of Linux were being removed.  I reposted my review and added a threat at the end saying that I would report the add-on author to Mozilla if he removed it again.     Feb 01 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | Firefox menu font. Menus are incredibly small and impossible to read. | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla SupportFeb 01 20:39
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36077/Feb 01 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: E.E.E. is what the corporations are all about.: Guest Article: Introduction to Microsoft’s Growing Role in the R Project Through the Linux Foundation and E.E.E.Feb 01 20:49
schestowitz"Feb 01 20:49
schestowitz> However, on this list -- which isn't going to be too far from the included list in any newer OS -- the GPL is called out at least 70 times.Feb 01 20:49
schestowitzThat's really interesting. Some of those are libraries. I'm assuming that the only code that is linking to them are GPL utilities. It would be a bit embarassing if Apple code was linking to GPL stuff.Feb 01 20:49
schestowitz"Feb 01 20:49
schestowitz"It would be more than embarassing, it would mean that some of the Apple code all of a sudden became GPL. You can't reverse your decision once you ship your product with GPL code included. It's a done deal. "Feb 01 20:49
schestowitz"Feb 01 20:49
schestowitz    GCC FAQ wrote:Feb 01 20:49
schestowitz        2.2 So any program which uses libstdc++ falls under the GPL?Feb 01 20:49
schestowitz    No. The special exception permits use of the library in proprietary applications.Feb 01 20:49
schestowitz    https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html Feb 01 20:49
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schestowitz"Feb 01 20:49
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7003975Feb 02 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Justice Department launches investigation into San Francisco police force https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/02/01/justice-department-to-investigate-san-francisco-police-force/ same #police that killed #murdock of #debianFeb 02 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | Justice Department launches investigation into San Francisco police force - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/oh0gf ]Feb 02 05:17
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7004018Feb 02 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: On 'harmful' posts (to those in Power) http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/02/01/censored-thai-junta-pressures-facebook-line-remove-harmful-posts http://www.kitguru.net/channel/jon-martindale/thai-government-wants-facebook-to-remove-harmful-content/ 'removed without order' http://news.videonews.us/update-thai-junta-wants-online-content-removed-without-order-3147013.html #facebookFeb 02 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> bangkok.coconuts.co | Censored: Thai junta pressures Facebook, Line to remove 'harmful' posts [ http://ur1.ca/oh0gl ]Feb 02 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.kitguru.net | Thai government wants Facebook to remove ‘harmful’ content | KitGuruFeb 02 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.videonews.us | UPDATE - Thai junta wants online content removed without order [ http://ur1.ca/oh0go ]Feb 02 05:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694483595453423616https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694483595453423616Feb 02 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz it's a shame really. Great technology that got hijacked and ruined. Its part of how Microsoft damages computing in general,Feb 02 06:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694485324878184448Feb 02 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz @LinuxVeda indeed the reason why so many were fooled by this bit of satire is that it is entirely plausible about himFeb 02 06:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/694479240474017792Feb 02 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jono Bacon urges users to ditch Linux and move to Mac OS X https://t.co/9FCzedCqLa satire, although like Mac Asay, plausibleFeb 02 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | Jono Bacon urges users to ditch Linux and move to Mac OS X | Linux VedaFeb 02 06:40
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amarsh04Firefox 44 is bad enough, noticably slower than 43.0.4 in DebianFeb 02 07:15
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gde33ye :(Feb 02 07:46
gde33I was pondering a semi break away society of open source developers. Pick a cheap as dirt location, implement utlities, (drinking water, electricity, solar heat etc), a hospital, farms, food and drink processing, community kitchen, minimalistic housing, big servers and a bunch of minimalistic terminalsFeb 02 07:51
gde33then just scale the thing to make stuff workFeb 02 07:52
gde33ideally all the purchases are paid in advance and enough income is generated to do maintanance (think small)Feb 02 07:52
gde33if there are no bills to pay, we can just write software for funFeb 02 07:53
gde33eat when hungry, sleep when tired, get drunk when you need toFeb 02 07:53
gde33the amish are doing it without much technologyFeb 02 07:54
gde33with almost unlimited software development resources amazing things can be done with relatively poor roboticsFeb 02 07:54
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gde33building the plant nursing robot is not hard, the hard part is making sense of the data, chosing and implementing the right actionsFeb 02 07:55
gde33There would be some citizens (hereon refered to as coders) with some money to burn (could be small) and some who will need to do a commercial project at times to sustain the whole.Feb 02 07:57
gde33A friend of mine made a deal with a vacation cabin exploitant in tailand, he paid 1400 euro for 12 months including cleaning, laundry and breakfast.Feb 02 07:58
gde33the guy was actually happy to have a familiar face on his land, one could probably get the deal for < 1000Feb 02 08:00
gde33with some internet cafe-ish hardware you can have a ton of terminals on the cheapFeb 02 08:02
gde33I imagine it totally doable to have western quality of life for 1 euro per day, if we can produce code that would cost millions in a commerical setting the whole society should be sustainable as fuck :PFeb 02 08:04
gde33it could also work wonderfuly as a tourist magnetFeb 02 08:06
gde33spain seems a cool place for this, land is cheap as fuck, water isn't to easy but when you get it farming scales along with itFeb 02 08:13
gde33it also isn't to primitive, it is even in the EUFeb 02 08:13
gde33weather is greatFeb 02 08:13
oiaohm gde33 there is many levels of interesting.   From what is done in parts of Australia with auqaponics question if land is even required.Feb 02 08:14
gde33oiaohm: it isn'tFeb 02 08:14
gde33oiaohm: most interesting is using actually modern tech as opposed to maintaining very old infrastructureFeb 02 08:15
gde33there are lots, like nanotech water filters and/or using coloids combined with uv etc etcFeb 02 08:16
gde33aquaphonics is as easy as floating crates with vegitables on a basin holding fishFeb 02 08:17
gde33as long as the fish are healthy the crops growFeb 02 08:17
gde33I think the most common mistake in urban planning is to hide everything underground and inside wallsFeb 02 08:18
gde33its cheap and it works, until you have to fix something, then you just have to cut open the walls, strip out the road and start diggingFeb 02 08:19
gde33which is almost as expensive as a new installFeb 02 08:19
oiaohmhttp://www.motherearthnews.com/renewable-energy/other-renewables/biogas-generator-zm0z14aszrob.aspx  making power that is not solar based is not complex.Feb 02 08:20
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gde33oiaohm: yeah, just one exampleFeb 02 08:20
gde33overal shit holds more accessable energy than the animal or human eating it could ever produceFeb 02 08:21
oiaohmBasically aquaponics combind with biogas and you are off to a flying start.Feb 02 08:21
gde33the only challange I see that requires scale is getting medical care up to standardsFeb 02 08:21
gde33but howmany people would just love to live some place simply and write code all day?Feb 02 08:22
oiaohmComputer gear and other nm based techs are not cheap to make.Feb 02 08:22
gde33have the head room to actually focus on the codeFeb 02 08:22
gde33oiaohm: not sure, howmany terminals can one hook up to one decent server?Feb 02 08:22
oiaohmgde33: building code is not a light process.Feb 02 08:23
gde3321 inch screens in bulk probably cost 3 euro eachFeb 02 08:23
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gde33oiaohm: how do you mean?Feb 02 08:23
oiaohmWhen developing code you need to rebuild your patches to make sure you have a working solution.Feb 02 08:23
oiaohmBasically making somewhere to live with decent food and power for general living is not hard.Feb 02 08:24
oiaohmMaking somewhere the resources to support full time coding development is harder.Feb 02 08:24
gde33in general I think having a few powerful servers and lots of smallish work stations should be cheaper than everyone building their own systemFeb 02 08:24
gde33oiaohm: I cant disagree with thatFeb 02 08:25
gde33but when you get it to work, what kind of value do we have?Feb 02 08:25
gde33it is hard to express in money of courseFeb 02 08:25
oiaohmThe reality is running server for 4 hours will consume the power to cook your food for the day.Feb 02 08:25
gde33certainlyFeb 02 08:26
oiaohmMedical doing advanced testing is as bad as running 2 to 3 servers. Feb 02 08:26
oiaohmIts all these things that add up in power consume very quickly.Feb 02 08:27
gde33what kind of scale do you think to be required?Feb 02 08:27
gde33should it involve hundreds, thousands or hundreds of thousands of people?Feb 02 08:27
oiaohmLot of the issue is wasted space.   You think of how many places have roofs with no plants or gas generators on them.Feb 02 08:28
oiaohmBasic food and basic power is doable with current tech.Feb 02 08:29
gde33I imagine huge advantage in having your bed as close as possible to the place where the project is discussed Feb 02 08:29
gde33while still having reasonable privacy of courseFeb 02 08:29
oiaohmgde33: also remember using robotics come at a power cost.Feb 02 08:30
gde33today a place with a lot of sun would be preferableFeb 02 08:30
oiaohmThe reality in power usage you would be better to have few people who job is just to look after the food.Feb 02 08:30
gde33maybe in the future cold would be more beneficalFeb 02 08:30
gde33oh of course, all software development is not a great ideaFeb 02 08:31
gde33some people just want to cook, which is greatFeb 02 08:31
gde33I wonder to what extend hype can be leveraged, it might just be that a lot of big tech companies want in in some wayFeb 02 08:32
gde33we should be happy to write some code for them if there is no pressureFeb 02 08:32
oiaohmBasic food and basic power should be scalable to city/country size populations.   Biogas basic power is being very effective with waste handling.Feb 02 08:33
gde33some british project is using old cows for biogasFeb 02 08:33
gde33very little biomass cant go into the tankFeb 02 08:34
gde33what other low effort revenue streams are there?Feb 02 08:34
gde33could say, have people giving speeches at a variable rateFeb 02 08:35
gde33consider everything research data? have outsiders pay for access (or put their man inside)Feb 02 08:37
gde33biogas researchFeb 02 08:37
gde33I recently learn that government control was suppose to be a step in communism not at all the end goalFeb 02 08:38
gde33the idea was originally to move decision making as far down the hierarchy as possibleFeb 02 08:39
gde33but most software development seems to work best with a benevolent dictatorFeb 02 08:40
oiaohmgde33: note the one thing I did not mention because for land based it not exactly easy.   Water Feb 02 08:42
gde33I'm most curious what developers will come up with when whole system engineering takes on the whole of society :)Feb 02 08:42
gde33oiaohm: the [propriatry] nanotech filters are now doing 100% using only gravity Feb 02 08:42
oiaohmgde33: not filtering the water getting the water.Feb 02 08:43
oiaohmgde33: remember land based you have droughts.Feb 02 08:43
gde33true but that depends on the locationFeb 02 08:43
gde33there has to be a sweet spot where land is cheap as fuck while water is still obtainableFeb 02 08:43
gde33I hear in ghana such places can be found just outside remarkably western modern city centersFeb 02 08:44
gde33city centers where prices are like expensive western citiesFeb 02 08:44
oiaohmand you need to add on land cheap and water still obtainable and not a war zone.Feb 02 08:44
gde33ofcFeb 02 08:45
oiaohmLot of places that have human violence problems is cheap.Feb 02 08:45
gde33I'm afraid the level of weaponization has to be considered :/Feb 02 08:45
gde33spain seems okay, can buy ancient houses carved out of mountains thereFeb 02 08:46
gde33no one cares for it but they are ready made rooms and can be expandedFeb 02 08:47
oiaohmI have look at this problem over and over and I end up coming back to need a large ship.   Why large ship you can move away from conflit areas without having to redo everything.Feb 02 08:47
gde33I've pondered that tooFeb 02 08:47
gde33can do some projects for the coastal city you are at then move to the nextFeb 02 08:47
oiaohmAlso moving out of path of bad nasty weather is possible with ship.Feb 02 08:48
gde33have tourists visitFeb 02 08:48
gde33yeahFeb 02 08:48
gde33I think you are rightFeb 02 08:48
gde33big cruise ships can be supper cheap when the gold plating wears offFeb 02 08:49
oiaohmNo they are not.Feb 02 08:49
gde33compared to newFeb 02 08:49
oiaohmCruise ships when they get old they are normally structurally buggered.Feb 02 08:49
gde33I'm not an expert but I talk with a guy buying and selling thoseFeb 02 08:49
gde33often people simply cant pay maintanance anymore and have to sellFeb 02 08:49
gde33some even care more about the ship getting fixed than the moneyFeb 02 08:50
oiaohmCruise ships were not designed to have core hull structures repaired and replaced as they wear out.Feb 02 08:50
oiaohmCargo ships have the same problem.Feb 02 08:50
gde33it wont be easy picking the right boatFeb 02 08:50
gde33on the up side, all the work you do on it adds to her value, it is usual for ships to have an accurate log about these thingsFeb 02 08:51
gde33one might also consider using the ship for the purpose it was desinged forFeb 02 08:53
oiaohmYou have to remember lot of the old wooden ships have a lot longer lifespan than modern ship designs due to how much of the ship could be replaced without scrapping them.Feb 02 08:54
gde33adds a lot of charm tooFeb 02 08:55
gde33or a fleet of boats?Feb 02 08:56
gde33if we take a random offer http://www.woodenships.co.uk/sailing-yachts/danish-gaff-ketch/Feb 02 08:56
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gde3350 k for 10 peopleFeb 02 08:56
gde33(in british pounds)Feb 02 08:57
gde33also interesting is the price difference between countries depending on the kind of workFeb 02 08:58
gde33can have turks build the interior for 50 euro per week, they are not very good at the rest but hard to beat thereFeb 02 08:59
oiaohmgde33: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constitution   A ship over 200 years old and still in dayly usage.Feb 02 09:01
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gde33one pretty boatFeb 02 09:01
oiaohmgde33: basically a well designed ship for repair will last a down right long time.Feb 02 09:01
oiaohmA general cruise and cargo ship have operation life of between 25 to 30 years.Feb 02 09:02
gde33legal stuff also gets much easier on the waterFeb 02 09:02
oiaohmBefore they start becoming not sea worthy.Feb 02 09:02
oiaohmDealing with waves basically does a number on a structure if you cannot replace parts.Feb 02 09:03
gde33when they are not sea worthy anymore that doesn't make them uselessFeb 02 09:04
oiaohmgde33: not sea worthy means you cannot move any more.Feb 02 09:04
gde33here in the netherlands we have quite a lot of old clunkers on the ijselmeerFeb 02 09:04
gde33there was a time when you could get a ship shortened for free (price of scrap metal)Feb 02 09:05
oiaohmOnce they cannot move under the own power then end up more expensive to move to sell as scrap than they are worth as scrap.Feb 02 09:05
msb_There can be problems with nearby governments.Feb 02 09:06
gde33it isn't a viable thing to offer anymore but a lot of old ships got cut downFeb 02 09:06
oiaohmThink how old those ships you are calling old clunkers really are.Feb 02 09:06
gde33msb_: true, but nothing like expecting people to do farm work for free (if that situation arrises)Feb 02 09:07
oiaohmMost would turn out to be quite youngFeb 02 09:07
msb_!google libertarian tongaFeb 02 09:07
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gde33oiaohm: indeed, they can go for a few more hundred yearsFeb 02 09:07
oiaohmgde33: well designed ship should have many hundred years of active usage.Feb 02 09:08
gde33oiaohm: if it is designed to be 50 meters long but is only 25 the level of overengineering is 100% :PFeb 02 09:08
oiaohmgde33: there are 100 year old boats that compete in the sidney to hobart.   Yes a sail boat race.Feb 02 09:09
gde33thinking about it, metal seems quite the drama, they seem to be painting and scrubbing the year roundFeb 02 09:09
oiaohmgsydney to hobart.Feb 02 09:09
oiaohmgde33: cheap metal alloy is part of problem.   using forms of steel that rust and put in sea is not planing for long life.Feb 02 09:10
gde33oiaohm: the question remains: how big should each/the boat be? howmany people to make the project show up in the media?Feb 02 09:10
oiaohmTo work out size of boat require most likely means starting making the functional systems on land.Feb 02 09:12
msb_It's a great idea, but if some corporation, e.g., Microsoft or Apple, didn't like the competition, they could accuse (via a cutout) the community of some "crime" -- pirating movies or growing cannabis -- and have the nearest government go in and destroy the  place.Feb 02 09:12
oiaohmThen working out how to fit them into ship.Feb 02 09:12
gde33oiaohm: make it scale depending on the number of shipmates?Feb 02 09:14
oiaohmgde33: exactly.Feb 02 09:14
oiaohmgde33: stupid thing is a larger cargo ship does not have a larger operational crew or maintenance team.Feb 02 09:15
msb_Read _Island_, by Aldous Huxley.Feb 02 09:16
oiaohmgde33: so there has to be a figure of crew + other personal that equal magic figure.Feb 02 09:16
oiaohmgde33: light crime is a minor idea for making money having a ship.  http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/floating-casino-draws-singaporeans-who-loath-to-pay-100-levy-at-homeFeb 02 09:19
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oiaohmgde33: basically you need a ship bigger than what you need to live so you can trade to get items you cannot make.Feb 02 09:23
gde33some boats here are chartered for corporate training, that also brings in quite the crazy feesFeb 02 09:24
gde33if we are going to build cubicals anywayFeb 02 09:24
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gde33conferance rooms are probably unavoidable tooFeb 02 09:25
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oiaohmOf course a reconfigurable conference room can be a private poker table room no problems Feb 02 09:26
gde33it would work but it isn't the right audienceFeb 02 09:27
gde33it should aim to be a place where one can socialize with other software entugiasts who love FOSS as much as you doFeb 02 09:28
gde33bringing a bunch of capitalist geezers onboard would destroy everythingFeb 02 09:28
gde33low intelect capitalist geezersFeb 02 09:28
oiaohmAt Linux conferences there are always a lot of capitalist people there.Feb 02 09:28
oiaohmThis would be just setting up to take extra advantage of them while they are visiting.Feb 02 09:29
gde33high intelect capitalists with passion for the projectFeb 02 09:29
gde33ahh right now I seeFeb 02 09:29
oiaohmThere are a lot of high interlect capitalists who love to gamble and we might as well be the house.Feb 02 09:30
gde33it would be less of a pain losing your moneyFeb 02 09:30
oiaohmRemember if they are losing to the ship they are funding the ship.Feb 02 09:31
oiaohmYes why it rare to find a cruse ship without a casino  is that is funds the ship.Feb 02 09:32
gde33video games that pay out are illegal in many countriesFeb 02 09:32
oiaohmYet some how modern poker machines are in most of those countries.Feb 02 09:33
gde33many would love to play street fighter for 5-500 euro per gameFeb 02 09:33
oiaohmWhat you call double standards.Feb 02 09:33
gde33indeedFeb 02 09:33
gde33it is quite silly how one has to play boring chance based games?Feb 02 09:33
gde33if you do as much as count the cards you are a criminalFeb 02 09:34
gde33lmaoFeb 02 09:34
oiaohmSomething that historic casinos use to have is Solitaire games that you use to bet on if you could get it out or not.Feb 02 09:35
oiaohmOf course the right Solitaire games the house is overall always winning.Feb 02 09:36
oiaohmBut its a lot more thinking than poker machines.Feb 02 09:36
gde33there was a time when one had to bet a reasonable % of ones property in chess gamesFeb 02 09:37
gde33making small bets was frowned upponFeb 02 09:37
gde33the fun part is that this idea involves a ton of coding :)Feb 02 09:38
gde33offshore you are not that bothered by licencing eitherFeb 02 09:38
oiaohmsomewhere doing coding there is room for lot more creative casinoFeb 02 09:38
gde33all the normal casino games are not fund if no money is involvedFeb 02 09:39
gde33*funFeb 02 09:39
gde33pong is a better game than blackjackFeb 02 09:40
gde33becoming a pro gamer would take no more than winning the whole timeFeb 02 09:41
gde33they would never leave the boat :DFeb 02 09:42
oiaohmremember people still pay Solitaire and the like without money.Feb 02 09:42
oiaohmpay/playFeb 02 09:42
gde33sure, that is reasonably funFeb 02 09:42
gde33as it requires a bit of skillFeb 02 09:42
oiaohmWhat has happen is the fast turn around large profit making games is what our current casino offer.Feb 02 09:43
oiaohmThe slower yet still profitable games like Solitaire have disappeared out current casinos.Feb 02 09:43
gde33we could have a ticket that includes 1 game of half life, 1 game of street fighter, 1 game of supper mario etc etcFeb 02 09:44
gde33then your 200 euro ticket only buys 1 roundFeb 02 09:44
oiaohmI know it warp thinking of gambling to fund open source development.Feb 02 09:44
gde33in the 80's gaming use to be all about programmingFeb 02 09:45
gde33it became a bit of weird cult but it is still pushing hardware specsFeb 02 09:45
gde33if it wasn't for these kinds gaming their lives away we would all be using something like Bloomberg consolesFeb 02 09:46
gde33lolFeb 02 09:46
gde33while I agree the warping isn't to badFeb 02 09:46
gde33oiaohm: http://www.contemporist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/travel-tip_151215_04.jpg?1ff4a6Feb 02 09:49
oiaohmgde33: nice oneFeb 02 09:51
gde33the "slot machine video game" search result shows nothing but utterly boring garbage gamesFeb 02 09:51
gde33wheels of fortune, card games, fruit machinesFeb 02 09:51
gde33https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHmek6qwJmcFeb 02 09:52
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gde33I can totally imagine the joy of killing players in a first person shooter for 50 cents per pop Feb 02 09:59
gde33make their entire winnings drop on the ingame floor Feb 02 09:59
gde33have hard to reach exits and killer environment for the bank to cash inFeb 02 10:00
gde33of course there has to be a home version for practishFeb 02 10:01
gde33new maps every week to keep people in the foldFeb 02 10:01
gde33oiaohm: I now doubt we even need the boatFeb 02 10:02
gde33can just get started without itFeb 02 10:02
gde33sell tickets for non existing boat tripFeb 02 10:03
gde33oiaohm: I'm now pondering educative gaming with money prizes - lolFeb 02 10:21
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schestowitzwhy is the internet so broken today?Feb 02 13:13
schestowitzincluding bt...Feb 02 13:13
schestowitzand lots of sites I visit...Feb 02 13:13
schestowitzhttp://tuxmachines.orgFeb 02 13:14
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cubexyzcheck your routerFeb 02 13:14
schestowitznot just me  thoughFeb 02 13:14
schestowitzmaybe a routing issue, not impossibleFeb 02 13:14
schestowitztesting... http://tuxmachines.org/galleryFeb 02 13:14
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schestowitzfast response, so it's just me thenFeb 02 13:14
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cubexyzfound a book which folks may find of interestFeb 02 13:57
cubexyz"Reliability of Computer Systems and Networks: Fault Tolerance, Analysis, and Design"Feb 02 13:59
cubexyzit has a lot of theory, and some good ideasFeb 02 14:02
schestowitzsome people don't read books (hi)Feb 02 14:02
schestowitzbecause they're too longFeb 02 14:03
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cubexyzoiaohm might have looked into reliability engineering'Feb 02 14:19
cubexyzit's an interesting subjectFeb 02 14:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/694600137767788544Feb 02 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz https://t.co/3fROWDreSMFeb 02 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PrivateEyeNews: It's a no brainer! Eye 1411, on its way to shops and subscribers now. https://t.co/1HGrmfIkZXFeb 02 14:20
cubexyzI'd love to find a service manual for cdrom drivesFeb 02 14:22
cubexyzthere was ECC, it's an old ideaFeb 02 14:24
cubexyzit used to be common, the IBM PC had ECC memory and this seems to have ended in the early 1990sFeb 02 14:25
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amarsh04has there been much reaction to the publication of this story? http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 02 14:39
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msb_cubexyz: When high-capacity (1024 bits and up) refreshed-capacitor semiconductor Feb 02 14:56
msb_RFeb 02 14:57
msb_RAM first came out, there was a lot of concern about bit errors due to alpha particles in the packaging.Feb 02 14:57
msb_So when I specified RAM boards for minicomputers I included ECC.Feb 02 14:58
msb_But I don't think my IBM-PC had it.  The problem had been solved by that time.Feb 02 14:58
msb_As RAM capacity and speed increased through the years, I was always surprised that random bit flips didn't become a problem, but they never have (even without ECC).Feb 02 15:01
msb_Maybe the IBM-PC had a parity bit, that would tell you about an error, but couldn't fix it.  Maybe populating those extra chips was an option.Feb 02 15:02
amarsh04http://mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.htmlFeb 02 15:05
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sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR cubexyz Sosumi XFaCE oiaohm msb_ pingFeb 02 15:12
*XRevan86 feels left out.Feb 02 15:13
msb_XRevan86: Our socialist candidate Bernie Sanders did well in the first pre-primary election, tying machine Democrat Clinton 50-50.Feb 02 15:15
XRevan86msb_: social-democrat, you wanted to say?Feb 02 15:15
XRevan86(at max)Feb 02 15:15
msb_He just says "socialist".Feb 02 15:15
msb_But he's not seeking to convert the economy.Feb 02 15:16
msb_He does advocate free university education, and maybe medical care, I'm not sure.Feb 02 15:17
XRevan86msb_: That's social democracy.Feb 02 15:17
msb_OKFeb 02 15:17
XRevan86Which would be a big step for US, if Sanders really is a nice guy :).Feb 02 15:17
msb_He seems to be -- very consistent over many years, and has a very sincere manner.Feb 02 15:18
msb_sebsebseb: HiFeb 02 15:19
cubexyzsome of the PDP-11s had ECC memoryFeb 02 15:20
cubexyzcan't remember which ones.... after mag core certainlyFeb 02 15:20
msb_Sure.  So did Data General Eclipse.Feb 02 15:21
XRevan86msb_: My suspicion works kind of like "if he's such a nice chap, why is he still alive?"Feb 02 15:21
msb_HeFeb 02 15:21
msb_He's still alive because he's not in power yet, except as a senator.Feb 02 15:22
XRevan86and politically aliveFeb 02 15:22
msb_The CIA is probably programming "lone nuts" as we speak.Feb 02 15:22
cubexyzis Sanders getting much TV coverage?Feb 02 15:23
msb_"Regime change" for the US.Feb 02 15:23
msb_About 1/20th of Rump's coverage on US corporate TV.Feb 02 15:24
MinceRhttp://blog.dilbert.com/post/138541628036/news-flash-cartoonist-gets-one-wrong#_=_Feb 02 15:24
msb_RT features him a lot.Feb 02 15:24
MinceR"As I was having these thoughts last night, some folks on Twitter mentioned that Republicans were using a new Microsoft app to tally results. Apparently that system was a bit buggy. Microsoft provided the system for free. Feb 02 15:24
MinceROh, and Microsoft is Rubio’s biggest donor. "Feb 02 15:24
cubexyzshades of Diebold :)Feb 02 15:25
XRevan86Rump is an US plagiat of Zhirinovsky.Feb 02 15:25
MinceRindeedFeb 02 15:25
cubexyzalthough I can't remember if Microsoft had anything to do with DieboldFeb 02 15:25
MinceRthey're both criminal organizationsFeb 02 15:25
XRevan86Oh, Zhirinovsky, who else would suggest to bomb US?Feb 02 15:25
cubexyzTrump is just a big fakeFeb 02 15:26
cubexyzsays whatever he thinks people want to hearFeb 02 15:26
MinceRwe've got lots of thoseFeb 02 15:27
XRevan86cubexyz: Not quite.Feb 02 15:27
msb_They all do that, except Sanders.Feb 02 15:27
MinceRhow do you know he isn't?Feb 02 15:27
XRevan86cubexyz: He seems to just be a political clown.Feb 02 15:28
cubexyzXRevan86, well yes, we can agree on that :)Feb 02 15:28
cubexyzhe's not astute enough to be a good liarFeb 02 15:28
msb_MinceR: If you mean Sanders, he's been advocating the same policies for many years, even when they've been unpopular.Feb 02 15:29
cubexyzisn't Sanders a bit old to become prez?Feb 02 15:29
*XRevan86 seeks for Zhirinovsky citations, but that's boringFeb 02 15:30
XRevan86I'd better go to YouTubeFeb 02 15:30
cubexyzReagan was 69 when electedFeb 02 15:30
MinceRmsb_: were those policies unpopular in the demographic that supports him now?Feb 02 15:30
cubexyzeven Hillary Clinton is up there at 69 years oldFeb 02 15:32
msb_That demographic has become much more leftish.Feb 02 15:32
MinceRicFeb 02 15:32
MinceRalso, i wonder if Sanders has a plan how to fight his party in congressFeb 02 15:32
msb_Sanders is 74.  But he does look a bit frail.  That worries me.Feb 02 15:32
MinceRhe may become president, but his party is still in the pockets of the megacorporationsFeb 02 15:33
MinceRand afaik he can't make law without congressFeb 02 15:33
XRevan86https://youtu.be/wd0tdVjyMvE?t=3m29s something like thatFeb 02 15:33
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cubexyzyeah it's becoming a corporatocracyFeb 02 15:35
msb_He can advocate good legislation to the people, and ad hoc polls can be taken showing they back it, and so shaming the machine Democrats.Feb 02 15:35
cubexyzand I include Canada in that tooFeb 02 15:35
cubexyzI can't buy a FTA PVR in my city which is ridiculousFeb 02 15:35
cubexyzdumb sales guy: You got Bell or Rogers?Feb 02 15:36
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cubexyzlook at income inequalityFeb 02 15:37
cubexyzCEO's get big bucks, workers salaries are stagnantFeb 02 15:37
cubexyzfactor in inflation and you have declining wages and benefits since the 1970sFeb 02 15:38
msb_It's all based on the 9-11 false-flag and the islamic terrorists initiated by the US in the 1980s.  Then the US attacks on Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Ukraine.  All these wars drive people to the right, which is where the ultra-wealthy want them.Feb 02 15:38
msb_The 21st Century would have been a jubilee, but was hijacked by those fascist moves.Feb 02 15:39
schestowitzamarsh04: http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/?comments=1Feb 02 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh25z ]Feb 02 15:39
schestowitz"Feb 02 15:39
schestowitzI'd figure the other EU bodies would relish the opportunity bring the EPO under their authority, as such I'm amazed by how they appear to have behaved (plenty of ammo provided above).Feb 02 15:39
schestowitzI suppose this story provides a good lesson as to why you need to get treaties right at the beginning otherwise you're stuck with them for a long long time Feb 02 15:39
schestowitz"Feb 02 15:39
schestowitz" That sounds kind of scary... Somehow being outside all of this here in switzerland doesn't feel too bad anymore... (If only switzerland were actually outside all of this, we are apparently EPO members too) "Feb 02 15:39
msb_Every time I see "EPOnia" I think of Elbonia.Feb 02 15:40
msb_The Dilbert country where people live in mud.Feb 02 15:40
XRevan86Russian for Japan is Yaponia.Feb 02 15:41
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/bank-asset-concentration-in-us-1997-2012.pngFeb 02 15:41
XRevan86msb_: I suspect creators of Dilbert series hate Albania.Feb 02 15:42
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msb_Does Albania have the wheel and fire yet?Feb 02 15:44
cubexyzAlbania was communist for a whileFeb 02 15:45
cubexyzso their GDP is increasingFeb 02 15:45
cubexyzbut according to statistics, 10.3% are below poverty lineFeb 02 15:46
XRevan86It was pretty much like NK, IIRC.Feb 02 15:46
cubexyzevidently they have lots of oil depositsFeb 02 15:46
XRevan86Political isolation total.Feb 02 15:47
msb_I'm sure 10% or more of USians are below the poverty line.Feb 02 15:51
XRevan86msb_: How dumb it is to be poor. They should get up and get education in a paid university. Oh, wait...Feb 02 15:52
cubexyzI think the Socialist Party of Albania is currently in power thereFeb 02 15:52
msb_Oil prices have recently gone very low.Feb 02 15:54
cubexyzXRevan86, what percentage of people in Albanian have internet access?Feb 02 15:55
cubexyzAlbaniaFeb 02 15:56
MinceRelbonia makes me think of hungaristanFeb 02 15:56
msb_The entire world capitalist economy is in a mess.  There are hundreds of trillions of dollars of "derivatives" being bought and sold, far greater than the GDP of the entire world.  If that bubble ever   pops it will be like a nuclear attack on the world economy.Feb 02 15:56
MinceRjust as nasty and backwardsFeb 02 15:56
XRevan86cubexyz: I spilled all I know about Albania. And that it's past.Feb 02 15:56
cubexyzok, Albania isn't too bad on internet access... says here it's 54.66% in 2012Feb 02 15:57
cubexyzon the other hand Afghanistan is 5.45%Feb 02 15:58
cubexyzHungary: 72%Feb 02 15:58
cubexyzRussia: 53.27%Feb 02 15:58
cubexyzUS: 81.03%Feb 02 15:58
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XRevan86Good moment to get cut of from Internet :).Feb 02 16:01
XRevan86off*Feb 02 16:02
msb_cubexyz: I think a lot of that increase in bank wealth is due to the repeal of the Glass-Steagle Act under the _Democratic Party_ Clinton administration,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Legislation  It had prevented banks from getting involved in stocks, derivatives, and the criminality that led to the 2008 crash.Feb 02 16:03
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XRevan86cubexyz: Another thing about Albania: it's a NATO member now.Feb 02 16:04
cubexyzyes, I saw thatFeb 02 16:04
cubexyzGlass-Steagle was repealed in 1999Feb 02 16:07
cubexyzseems a terrible ideaFeb 02 16:07
cubexyzrepealing itFeb 02 16:07
msb_And now we had Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, overseeing the destruction of the very prosperous Social Democratic nation of Libya, and gloating on TV, regarding Gaddafi -- "We came, we saw, he died"  I can't imagine voting for that psychopath for President.  She also looks totally insane.Feb 02 16:09
msb_The US/NATO attack on Libya was in 2011.Feb 02 16:09
msb_she also declared last night that she had won the Iowa caucuses vote, despite actually being tied with Sanders within 0.3%.  He's demanding a recount.Feb 02 16:13
MinceRthere are worse things about herFeb 02 16:13
msb_Do tell.Feb 02 16:13
MinceRlike how outraged she was about leaks about the nastiness ongoing in the us governmentFeb 02 16:13
MinceRshe's against transparencyFeb 02 16:13
MinceRtherefore she's against democracyFeb 02 16:13
msb_Yep.Feb 02 16:14
MinceRinteresting candidate for a party that calls itself "democratic"Feb 02 16:14
msb_They sold out long ago.Feb 02 16:14
msb_"Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband made at least $30 million over the last 16 months, mainly from giving paid speeches to corporations, banks and other organizations, according to financial disclosure forms filed with federal elections officials on Friday."  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/16/us/politics/clintons-reportedly-earned-30-million-in-the-last-16-months.html?_r=1  Feb 02 16:18
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schestowitzjust managed to lower our utility bills...Feb 02 16:24
schestowitz2 machines shut downFeb 02 16:24
schestowitzthey're dead, used to be on 24/7Feb 02 16:24
msb_This is the nation that Hillary Clinton, Obama, and NATO destroyed:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek  Note the so-called "dictator" Gadaffi riding through Tripoli, standing up in an open car without protection.Feb 02 16:25
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msb_I know I keep posting that video.  To me it's the saddest result of US fascism.Feb 02 16:29
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FriendlyfriendAMAZING article in UK  http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 02 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh1uw ]Feb 02 16:39
schestowitzyeahFeb 02 16:40
schestowitzseen itFeb 02 16:40
schestowitzhelped with it, it took me months to write itFeb 02 16:40
schestowitzglad to see it all coming out in one massive lump after all this time, just need tio make sure as many people as possible read itFeb 02 16:41
schestowitzincluding British politiciansFeb 02 16:41
schestowitzI will expand on that tomorrowFeb 02 16:42
schestowitzFriendlyfriend: quick question:Feb 02 16:42
schestowitzdo you know what's up with suepo's site? I plan to write about it later tonight, lack some details Feb 02 16:42
FriendlyfriendI know, I'm surprised too. I just sent them an email. I will sms to them too.Feb 02 16:43
schestowitzthank youFeb 02 16:44
schestowitzI will publish around 1amFeb 02 16:44
schestowitzworking this week every day, so can't do muchFeb 02 16:44
schestowitzI hope Glyn Moody's article does some of the 'legwork' at the moment, bringing a lot of people up to date w.r.t. EPOniaFeb 02 16:45
FriendlyfriendWhat you do is already enough - a little ott, but thanks anyway.Feb 02 16:46
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schestowitzlots of patents-related posts on their wayFeb 02 17:29
schestowitzEPO is having a lot of trouble and UPC in possibly in trouble now, along with software patentsFeb 02 17:30
schestowitzMicrosoft and Apple wouldn't be happyFeb 02 17:30
schestowitzAll they do is sue, threaten, blackmail/extortFeb 02 17:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/694598514047897600Feb 02 17:52
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cubexyzI can't see if the IBM PC had ECC memory or not but here is a decent pic:Feb 02 17:53
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ibm-pc-motherboard-1981.jpgFeb 02 17:53
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cubexyz16kx1 DRAMFeb 02 17:57
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cubexyzwow, 1024 bit memory must be really oldFeb 02 17:58
cubexyzthat's like magnetic core eraFeb 02 18:00
cubexyz32x32 coreFeb 02 18:00
cubexyzthe very first DRAM IC was the 1103Feb 02 18:01
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cubexyzso not too surprising, it was intel that invented the 1103 DRAMFeb 02 18:04
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cubexyzand 1 cent per bit, so each IC was about ten bucksFeb 02 18:07
cubexyz$80 per kilobyteFeb 02 18:07
cubexyz5k for 64K :)Feb 02 18:08
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/694652396874678273Feb 02 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz #EPO https://t.co/UlwesiujdjFeb 02 18:37
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schestowitz[20:25] <cubexyz> although I can't remember if Microsoft had anything to do with DieboldFeb 02 19:42
schestowitzDiebold renamedFeb 02 19:42
schestowitzto evade negative publicityFeb 02 19:42
schestowitzit also makes some stuff like ATMFeb 02 19:42
schestowitzit uses Windows for both voting and the latterFeb 02 19:42
schestowitztotal shamFeb 02 19:42
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cubexyzrightFeb 02 19:44
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cubexyzright, I should check into thatFeb 02 19:45
cubexyzdoes the US still use Diebold voting machines?Feb 02 19:56
cubexyzprobably old news but I'll post it anyways:Feb 02 19:59
cubexyzhttp://betanews.com/2016/01/28/bernie-sanders-campaign-is-right-microsoft-could-hurt-election-open-source-is-needed/Feb 02 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Bernie Sanders' campaign is right, Microsoft could hurt election -- open source is needed [ http://ur1.ca/oh348 ]Feb 02 19:59
cubexyzin Canada we use paper ballots and hand countsFeb 02 20:01
schestowitzyes, I saw trhatFeb 02 20:03
schestowitztux machines mentioned itFeb 02 20:03
schestowitzand the author retweeted me on itFeb 02 20:03
schestowitzfagioliFeb 02 20:03
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2016/02/01/microsoft-infiltrates-us-politics/Feb 02 20:04
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2015/06/06/voting-systems/Feb 02 20:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is NowFeb 02 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Available for Beta TestingFeb 02 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ISz7hPsxRK (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 02 20:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh37gFeb 02 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available for Beta Testing | Tux MachinesFeb 02 20:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COMFeb 02 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Express https://t.co/gt767DgLEXFeb 02 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 02 20:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh3a6Feb 02 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COM Express | Tux MachinesFeb 02 20:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available...'Feb 02 20:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Understanding digital signage with #Screenly Feb 02 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/F5YC7Q8iCZ (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 02 20:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh3clFeb 02 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Digital signage with Screenly - An interview with Viktor Petersson | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 02 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Giving Silos Their Due https://t.co/Wy87jJvYSzFeb 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com) "I predicted bigFeb 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 successes for LOTD and Linux on the LaptopFeb 02 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Giving Silos Their Due | Linux JournalFeb 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (LOTL)"Feb 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh3cmFeb 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #uefi developers try to distance themselvesFeb 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 from #nsa while #redhat celebrates 15 years ofFeb 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 #selinux https://t.co/EGD3jUiTAn (error)Feb 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh3cnFeb 02 20:58
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TweetTuxMachines@LibreOfficeVols  The LibreOffice(tm) Daily is out!Feb 02 21:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IYh71ktIF0 (paper.li) Stories viaFeb 02 21:08
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines @waman10da @johndrinkwaterFeb 02 21:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh3e5Feb 02 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The LibreOffice™ DailyFeb 02 21:08
*TweetTuxMachines @waman10da retweeted @LibreOfficeVols: 'The LibreOffice(tm) Daily is out! https://t.co/IYh71ktIF0 Stories via...'Feb 02 21:08
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msb_!google libya pan-african currencyFeb 03 00:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Libya Was Invaded to Prevent Pan-African Currency » Alex Jones ... | http://www.infowars.com/libya-was-invaded-to-prevent-pan-african-currency/Feb 03 00:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Libya Was Invaded to Prevent Pan-African Currency | http://www.prisonplanet.com/libya-was-invaded-to-prevent-pan-african-currency.htmlFeb 03 00:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - NATO Destroyed Libya to Prevent African Gold-Backed Currency ... | http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/01/nato-destroyed-libya-to-prevent-african-gold-backed-currency/Feb 03 00:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - new hillary emails reveal propaganda, executions, coveting libyan ... | http://levantreport.com/2016/01/04/new-hillary-emails-reveal-propaganda-executions-coveting-libyan-oil-and-gold/Feb 03 00:29
msb_"One of the 3,000 Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department on New Year’s Eve (where real news is sent to die quietly) has revealed evidence that NATO’s plot to overthrow Gaddafi was fueled by first their desire to quash the gold-backed African currency, and second the Libyan oil reserves."  http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/01/nato-destroyed-libya-to-prevent-african-gold-backed-currency/#Feb 03 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-countercurrentnews.com | NATO Destroyed Libya to Prevent African Gold-Backed Currency - Counter Current NewsFeb 03 00:33
msb_googled headline seen on RT!Feb 03 00:34
msb_"this email serves as definitive proof that special forces were on the ground only within a month of the earliest protests which broke out in the middle to end of February 2011 in Benghazi.  By March 27 of what was commonly assumed a simple “popular uprising” external special operatives were already “overseeing the transfer of weapons and supplies to the rebels” including “a seemingly endless supply of AK47 assault rifles and Feb 03 00:47
msb_ammunition.”   http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/           Feb 03 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foreignpolicyjournal.com | Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention | Foreign Policy JournalFeb 03 00:47
*TweetTuxMachines @MevatoDigital favourited 'Understanding digital signage with #Screenly https://t.co/F5YC7Q8iCZ'Feb 03 01:26
msb_There's some way to put a title on these but I canFeb 03 01:52
msb_can't figure it out.  Feel The Bern:  https://imgur.com/yPNCc7xFeb 03 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Imgur: The most awesome images on the InternetFeb 03 01:53
msb_Got it:  https://imgur.com/yPNCc7xFeb 03 01:55
msb_!botFeb 03 01:56
msb_http://imgur.com/yPNCc7xFeb 03 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Feel the Bern - ImgurFeb 03 01:56
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msb_Concerted propaganda attack against Russia by US and its allies:Feb 03 05:20
msb_US allocating $4Billion more for military in Europe to protect against "Russian aggression"Feb 03 05:20
msb_US statement saying that Russia is the most dangerous threat, ISIL fifthFeb 03 05:20
msb_New UK tv show portraying Russia invading LatviaFeb 03 05:20
msb_New tv show in Norway portraying attack by RussiaFeb 03 05:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux OperatingFeb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 System for Kids, Closes ShopFeb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Us2PrTdZ7R (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4xyFeb 03 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for Kids, Closes Shop | Tux MachinesFeb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as aFeb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Touchpad, Miracast Coming SoonFeb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ndYTIDszWH (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4xzFeb 03 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as a Touchpad, Miracast Coming Soon | Tux MachinesFeb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable)Feb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QKwJoxSMBD (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4y0Feb 03 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable) | Tux MachinesFeb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source app takes on Ebola and mentalFeb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 health in Liberia https://t.co/sy8PEbVGPnFeb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 06:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4y2Feb 03 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source app takes on Ebola and mental health in Liberia | Tux MachinesFeb 03 06:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/694831956408848385Feb 03 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Must be using Cisco routers @schestowitz BT blames 'faulty router' for mega outage. https://t.co/mqNrR9WOwxFeb 03 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | BT blames 'faulty router' for mega outage. Did they try turning it off and on again? • The RegisterFeb 03 06:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ppsticino/status/694821200749527040Feb 03 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ppsticino: RT@schestowitz: #europe as a quasi US state https://t.co/rwqUUnMxJWFeb 03 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #europe as a quasi US state https://t.co/ahpX2GqvnmFeb 03 06:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Chrome Is Finally Getting SmoothFeb 03 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Scrolling on Linux https://t.co/Zdmm81XeSKFeb 03 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 06:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh50cFeb 03 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 03 06:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gaming: The Talos Principle – Road to GehennaFeb 03 06:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lkpLdBGmHg (www.preining.info)Feb 03 06:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #games #gnu #linuxFeb 03 06:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh50dFeb 03 06:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Samsung Hints at Feature Changes in Android N:Feb 03 06:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Better Stylus Support? https://t.co/jTAc91mCg7Feb 03 06:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.xda-developers.com) #android #linuxFeb 03 06:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh50eFeb 03 06:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Samsung Hints at Feature Changes in Android N: Better Stylus Support?Feb 03 06:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/694845375379824640   https://twitter.com/01micko/status/694846133420490752Feb 03 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lordbaco: E.T. https://t.co/FlItUHWHhNFeb 03 06:35
schestowitzJolla?Feb 03 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa new puff pieces: How a 47-Year-Old NSA Cryptography Test Still Excites Amateur Alien Hunters https://t.co/jZAtM2Y1lhFeb 03 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @schestowitz I want a phone NOT tied to some conglomerate. I make calls, surf, email.Feb 03 06:35
schestowitzJolla?Feb 03 06:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/01micko/status/694846767041351681Feb 03 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @schestowitz It's dead now unfortunately. Offering refunds :-(Feb 03 06:36
schestowitzThe tablet, not the phonesFeb 03 06:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     I want this Android-powered mirror that aFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Google engineer invented in his spare timeFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/MCktVeQQqS (www.theverge.com)Feb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #android #linuxFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh518Feb 03 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | I want this Android-powered mirror that a Google engineer invented in his spare time | The VergeFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Opinion: Three months later, is the Nexus 6PFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 still the best Android phone?Feb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9zrfPBfv0y (9to5google.com)Feb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh519Feb 03 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9to5google.com | Opinion: Three months later, is the Nexus 6P still the best Android phone? | 9to5GoogleFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Among development tasks, one of my leastFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 favorite is benchmarking and I tend toFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 procrastinate on it" https://t.co/UTwKj7GiRpFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.labbott.name) #fedoraFeb 03 06:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh51bFeb 03 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.labbott.name | Something witty/insightfulFeb 03 06:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crusader Kings II: Conclave expansion nowFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines                 available https://t.co/vL2nz3JdxPFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) #games #gnu #linuxFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh52zFeb 03 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Crusader Kings II: Conclave expansion now available | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/eTNcsUmJmwFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh530Feb 03 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The top 10 Linux security distrosFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1gd5wL6J4L (www.itproportal.com)Feb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh531Feb 03 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | The top 10 Linux security distros | ITProPortal.comFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turing Phone Drops Android For Sailfish OS,Feb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Delays Launch To April, Reneging On "No LaterFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Than Q1 2016" https://t.co/g4SfYJ7NwHFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Feb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh532Feb 03 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Turing Phone Drops Android For Sailfish OS, Delays Launch To April, Reneging On "No Later Than Q1 2016" PromiseFeb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tough Android phablet does sensing, scanning,Feb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines                 3G https://t.co/UKysAnaIf8 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 03 07:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh535Feb 03 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tough Android phablet does sensing, scanning, 3G ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 03 07:04
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for...'Feb 03 07:05
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen...'Feb 03 07:05
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on...'Feb 03 07:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Luca Toma KDE Interview https://t.co/YTKMkQSQ81Feb 03 07:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (dot.kde.org)Feb 03 07:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh53gFeb 03 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Luca Toma KDE Interview | KDE.newsFeb 03 07:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dell to ship XPS 13 Developer Edition LinuxFeb 03 07:06
TweetTuxMachines                 laptop with Skylake https://t.co/LW1LUltuQQFeb 03 07:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.com)Feb 03 07:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh53hFeb 03 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Dell will ship XPS 13 Developer Edition "Project Sputnik" Linux laptops with Skylake chips | PCWorldFeb 03 07:06
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msb_XRevan86: Expanse 9 and 10 (the last) are out.Feb 03 07:10
XRevan86msb_: Oh yes, wednesday. Thanks.Feb 03 07:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/kEEE5gksZ6Feb 03 07:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 07:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh55qFeb 03 07:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 03 07:30
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/kEEE5gksZ6'Feb 03 07:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails 2.0 Linux Distro Improves Installation,Feb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Gets New Look https://t.co/IyXzmKTz3EFeb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.eweek.com)Feb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh55wFeb 03 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Tails 2.0 Linux Distro Improves Installation, Gets New LookFeb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AndEX Live CD Now Lets Users Run Android 6.0.1Feb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Marshmallow on Their PCsFeb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AE0KelAflu (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh55xFeb 03 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AndEX Live CD Now Lets Users Run Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow on Their PCsFeb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Set Up The Raspberry PI ZeroFeb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AO9H5vj7VXFeb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Feb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh560Feb 03 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | How To Set Up The Raspberry PI Zero « Everyday Linux UserFeb 03 07:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AndEX Live CD Now Lets Users Run Android...'Feb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel UpdatesFeb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 for All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Ng751ACiiE (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 07:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh561Feb 03 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel Updates for All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 03 07:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel Updates for All...'Feb 03 07:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     14 Linux-based gifts ideas for your geekyFeb 03 07:35
TweetTuxMachines                 valentine https://t.co/hx4lTcXdMV (www.cio.com)Feb 03 07:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh568Feb 03 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | 14 Linux-based gifts ideas for your geeky valentine | CIOFeb 03 07:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, DevsFeb 03 07:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Promise a Lot of Good Convergence FixesFeb 03 07:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ylblYWlogl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 07:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh569Feb 03 07:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, Devs Promise Lots of Good Convergence FixesFeb 03 07:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, Devs Promise a...'Feb 03 07:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta,Feb 03 07:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Includes TestDisk and PhotoRec 7.0Feb 03 07:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fYSIg24bsm (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 03 07:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56dFeb 03 07:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | 4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta, Includes TestDisk and PhotoRec 7.0Feb 03 07:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta, Includes TestDisk and...'Feb 03 07:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here is why Linux is much better than WindowsFeb 03 07:40
TweetTuxMachines                 10 https://t.co/9nUGnNSsIh (www.techworm.net)Feb 03 07:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56kFeb 03 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Here is why Linux is much better than Windows 10 » TechWormFeb 03 07:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is NowFeb 03 07:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Available for Beta TestingFeb 03 07:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/anLYVXYuld (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 07:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56lFeb 03 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available for Beta TestingFeb 03 07:40
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available...'Feb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COMFeb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Express https://t.co/YbCDYvx9DrFeb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56yFeb 03 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COM Express ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Marshmallow: The smart person's guideFeb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FWuHYOZcjt (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56zFeb 03 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Android Marshmallow: The smart person's guide - TechRepublicFeb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five Android home screen launchers worthFeb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 checking out https://t.co/uU6vBFhQTPFeb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh575Feb 03 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Five Android home screen launchers worth checking out - TechRepublicFeb 03 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux OperatingFeb 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 System for Kids, Closes ShopFeb 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RikbRb3xZD (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh576Feb 03 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for Kids, Closes ShopFeb 03 07:43
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for...'Feb 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as aFeb 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Touchpad, Miracast Coming SoonFeb 03 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mxOQLqRdou (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 07:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as a Touchpad, Miracast Coming SoonFeb 03 07:43
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen...'Feb 03 07:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable)Feb 03 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AWVqqe5Lgz (manjaro.github.io)Feb 03 07:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh57yFeb 03 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable) – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityFeb 03 07:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Chrome Is Finally Getting SmoothFeb 03 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Scrolling on Linux https://t.co/EJnuJBoPW8Feb 03 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 07:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh57zFeb 03 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on LinuxFeb 03 07:47
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454435598283#c8310776369025207044Feb 03 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 03 07:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 07:50
schestowitzAMAZING article in UKFeb 03 07:50
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 03 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh1uw ]Feb 03 07:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 07:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 07:50
schestowitzAMAZING article in UKFeb 03 07:50
schestowitzAmazing indeed - and judging by this article and by the tone of the recent TV reports and articles in the Dutch press, it seems the the 800.000 EUR "to address the media presence of the EPO." went down the drain.Feb 03 07:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 07:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 07:50
schestowitzPlenty more where that came from.Feb 03 07:50
schestowitzBB is dripping with cash ... Feb 03 07:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 07:50
schestowitz" Amazing article should be compulsory reading. A good summary and clear explanation of most of the facts. Staff don't get 3 months leave and the AC's rejection of BB proposals in December have been ignored "Feb 03 07:51
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on...'Feb 03 07:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/694823888887357440Feb 03 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest how do you protect yourself from trolls? You can't.Feb 03 08:17
schestowitzzoobab_: indeedFeb 03 08:18
schestowitzthey don't mention that partFeb 03 08:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SportingbetSA/status/694878752950611968Feb 03 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SportingbetSA: At this point last season after 24 games, Leicester were bottom of the league with 17 points. https://t.co/8xgbXPDQ20Feb 03 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SportingbetSA: At this point last season after 24 games, Leicester were bottom of the league with 17 points. https://t.co/8xgbXPDQ20Feb 03 08:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Kloppholic/status/694877243449937920Feb 03 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Kloppholic: Football is more than just about player quality. It's about passion, a want, mentality, and spirit. Just look at Leicester for example. #LFCFeb 03 08:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The top 10 Linux security distrosFeb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/1gd5wL6J4L (www.itproportal.com)Feb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        Feb 03 08:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | The top 10 Linux security distros | ITProPortal.comFeb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDEFeb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines                 software on a stable Ubuntu baseFeb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K2xp9CgT1j (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5fpFeb 03 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDE software on a stable Ubuntu base | Tux MachinesFeb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Is Looking for Participants inFeb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines                 "Ubuntu Apps in Unity 8" Research StudyFeb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/pdGEfyyGYB (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5fqFeb 03 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Canonical Is Looking for Participants in "Ubuntu Apps in Unity 8" Research StudyFeb 03 08:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition…also ship withFeb 03 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu.” https://t.co/uZGnati3awFeb 03 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com) https://t.co/yIvDH0Y4UyFeb 03 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.com)Feb 03 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Sold with $100 Discount to Make Way for New ModelFeb 03 09:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5fsFeb 03 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Dell will ship XPS 13 Developer Edition "Project Sputnik" Linux laptops with Skylake chips | PCWorldFeb 03 09:00
*TweetTuxMachines @DailyNetBlog favourited '“Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition…also ship with Ubuntu.”...'Feb 03 09:00
*TweetTuxMachines @DailyNetBlog followed @tuxmachinesFeb 03 09:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Available for Download,Feb 03 09:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.3Feb 03 09:08
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/tgvBeViXRs (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 03 09:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5gvFeb 03 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Available for Download, Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.3Feb 03 09:08
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Available for Download, Still Powered...'Feb 03 09:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you canFeb 03 09:14
TweetTuxMachines                 use Linux Mint 17.3 instead?Feb 03 09:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7xz32sAobk (www.zdnet.com)Feb 03 09:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5hhFeb 03 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you can use Linux Mint 17.3 instead? | ZDNetFeb 03 09:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tomb Raider Reboot from 2013 Might Arrive onFeb 03 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Steam for Linux https://t.co/b6qtKj4mE2Feb 03 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 09:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5hsFeb 03 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tomb Raider Reboot from 2013 Might Arrive on Steam for LinuxFeb 03 09:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Free-to-Play Winter Game SNOW Now Works onFeb 03 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/WuEMzR0zhYFeb 03 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 09:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Free-to-Play Winter Game SNOW Now Works on LinuxFeb 03 09:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tomb Raider Reboot from 2013 Might Arrive on...'Feb 03 09:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BitTorrent Talks Encryption, Improved LinuxFeb 03 09:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Support For Sync 2.3 https://t.co/Vl4Q57fk8jFeb 03 09:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcper.com)Feb 03 09:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5k0Feb 03 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcper.com | BitTorrent Talks Encryption, Improved Linux Support For Sync 2.3 | PC PerspectiveFeb 03 09:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in theFeb 03 09:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Series, Users Urged to UpdateFeb 03 09:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HFFq2zGnDK (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 09:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5k1Feb 03 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in the Series, Users Urged to UpdateFeb 03 09:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Devs Patch Zero-Day Linux KernelFeb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerability with the Latest UpdateFeb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mKhvW1m4XF (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5kuFeb 03 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Devs Patch Zero-Day Linux Kernel Vulnerability with the Latest UpdateFeb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDEFeb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 software on a stable Ubuntu baseFeb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/N7YjUuGhEY (www.pcworld.com)Feb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5kxFeb 03 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDE software on a stable Ubuntu base | PCWorldFeb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04Feb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS Daily Builds ISOs https://t.co/Qx86S9gRdxFeb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 09:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5kyFeb 03 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Daily Builds ISOsFeb 03 09:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu...'Feb 03 09:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at ScreenFeb 03 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/vzkHcu5kqSFeb 03 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 09:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5lcFeb 03 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04Feb 03 09:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen...'Feb 03 10:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you canFeb 03 10:06
TweetTuxMachines                 use Linux Mint 17.3 instead?Feb 03 10:06
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/SvxKHtqJcW (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 10:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5ohFeb 03 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ​Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you can use Linux Mint 17.3 instead? | Tux MachinesFeb 03 10:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at ScreenFeb 03 10:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/iZostNik4TFeb 03 10:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 10:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5pgFeb 03 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04 | Tux MachinesFeb 03 10:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04Feb 03 10:11
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS Daily Builds ISOs https://t.co/PzgXnVyyUcFeb 03 10:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 10:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5phFeb 03 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Daily Builds ISOs | Tux MachinesFeb 03 10:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in theFeb 03 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Series, Users Urged to UpdateFeb 03 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/H59ME5rVwI (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 10:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5piFeb 03 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in the Series, Users Urged to Update | Tux MachinesFeb 03 10:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top Open Source Firewalls for Small BusinessFeb 03 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Gu0ND5OhHo (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 10:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5pkFeb 03 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top Open Source Firewalls for Small Business | Tux MachinesFeb 03 10:12
*TweetTuxMachines @ValerieDiNuzzo followed @tuxmachinesFeb 03 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Is Looking for Participants in "Ubuntu Apps...'Feb 03 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '“Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition…also ship with Ubuntu.”...'Feb 03 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in...'Feb 03 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Devs Patch Zero-Day Linux Kernel Vulnerability with...'Feb 03 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu...'Feb 03 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen...'Feb 03 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in...'Feb 03 10:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The February 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOSFeb 03 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Magazine https://t.co/Wb00VyS0YfFeb 03 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 10:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The February 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux MachinesFeb 03 10:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux has once again dominated as the mostFeb 03 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 commonly used operating system"Feb 03 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ysHPtloe77 (news.netcraft.com)Feb 03 10:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | Most Reliable Hosting Company Sites in January 2016 | NetcraftFeb 03 10:57
*TweetTuxMachines @HostUSA followed @tuxmachinesFeb 03 11:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Conference brings 560 delegates toFeb 03 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Geelong, prompting calls for convention centreFeb 03 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/r0sHTba9c2 (error)Feb 03 11:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geelongadvertiser.com.au | Category: | Geelong AdvertiserFeb 03 11:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Highlights of SCaLE 14x https://t.co/SzBMRSlI5DFeb 03 11:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Feb 03 11:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh627Feb 03 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Highlights of SCaLE 14x | Linux.comFeb 03 11:21
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/uV11kqGFeb 03 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | #lump2016 - ImgurFeb 03 11:26
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454512184167#c673458874124905924Feb 03 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 03 11:33
schestowitz" WRT amount of leave at EPO, does anyone have a link to official information on that, please? The only source I could find was Le Monde. "Feb 03 11:33
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454514160285#c7891898709204185675Feb 03 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/oh64r ]Feb 03 11:34
schestowitz"Feb 03 11:34
schestowitz Confused cat,Feb 03 11:34
schestowitzThe "easy" answer is because you are not looking at the entire picture (which, when that picture is enlargened to include all payouts - including salaries - there very well may be NO increase in what you want to call "profit."Feb 03 11:34
schestowitzI post this "answer" as a hypothetical because I have not actually checked the numbers.Feb 03 11:34
schestowitzHOWEVER, you raise a coincident - and NOT minor - point: How is that "productivity" being measured?Feb 03 11:34
schestowitzI would posit that any "measure" of productivity that does not take into account whether "faster" decisions maintain (or better yet, improve) a certain level of accuracy and correctness is a FALSE measure.Feb 03 11:34
schestowitzI have been vocal in the states for quite a number of years pointing out that mere Rubber Stamping is bad.Feb 03 11:34
schestowitzRubber Stamping is bad when the mantra is Reject Reject Reject.Feb 03 11:34
schestowitzRubber Stamping is bad when the mantra is Accept Accept Accept.Feb 03 11:34
schestowitzNeither mode is actually examining properly. ANY measure of productivity that omits this critical feature is simply NOT a proper measure and will only (quite naturally) lead to actions that game the system.Feb 03 11:34
schestowitzWe do need to hold the leaders of Patent Offices accountable - not for gamed "productivity," but rather for true and meaningful increases in productivity. Feb 03 11:34
schestowitz"Feb 03 11:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     American Truck Simulator has an early release,Feb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 day one for Linux https://t.co/dwrBObB68iFeb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh65jFeb 03 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | American Truck Simulator has an early release, day one for Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Want to play XCOM 2? The system requirementsFeb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux & SteamOS have been sent outFeb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4KFi6hfhEQ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh65kFeb 03 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Want to play XCOM 2? The system requirements for Linux & SteamOS have been sent out | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Earth 2160, the RTS game looks like it'sFeb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 getting a Linux version on SteamFeb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JVmh94eN4s (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 03 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh65mFeb 03 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Earth 2160, the RTS game looks like it's getting a Linux version on Steam | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 11:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Move Ubuntu's Unity Launcher to theFeb 03 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Bottom of the Screen https://t.co/6xbf44QXKkFeb 03 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh660Feb 03 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | How to Move Ubuntu's Unity Launcher to the Bottom of the ScreenFeb 03 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #SUPERHOT will hit the PC, Mac and #Linux onFeb 03 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 February 25 https://t.co/PlvAtmOVunFeb 03 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (nanonews.org) https://t.co/lntXdzVdUSFeb 03 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.latinone.com)Feb 03 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh664Feb 03 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New #wine release https://t.co/BJQ2F6r9q0Feb 03 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 03 11:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh666Feb 03 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nanonews.org | SUPERHOT will hit the PC, Mac and Linux on February 25 | NanoNews.orgFeb 03 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latinone.com | Time-Based Shooter Game 'Superhot" Coming on Feb. 25 for Linux, Mac & Windows PC [Gameplay & Details] : Tech : Latin OneFeb 03 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Wine 1.8 Gets Its First Point Release with over 20 Bugfixes and ImprovementsFeb 03 11:42
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'How to Move Ubuntu's Unity Launcher to the...'Feb 03 11:42
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New #wine release https://t.co/BJQ2F6r9q0'Feb 03 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Russian Super-Computing Users Get Tired OfFeb 03 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Catalyst, Start Looking At Open-Source AMDFeb 03 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fai1ulUUjm (www.phoronix.com)Feb 03 11:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh66lFeb 03 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Russian Super-Computing Users Get Tired Of Catalyst, Start Looking At Open-Source AMD - PhoronixFeb 03 11:43
*TweetTuxMachines @oliverwright favourited 'Manjaro Devs Patch Zero-Day Linux Kernel Vulnerability with...'Feb 03 12:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Radeon Open-Source vs. Catalyst With OpenCLFeb 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 CLPEAK https://t.co/iJZGbicEAoFeb 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh69rFeb 03 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Radeon Open-Source vs. Catalyst With OpenCL CLPEAK - PhoronixFeb 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     deepin 15.1 - Screencast and Screenshots Feb 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/qF6a1Bf7O1Feb 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org)Feb 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh69sFeb 03 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | deepin 15.1 - Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 03 12:03
*TweetTuxMachines @Hardware360Wrld favourited 'deepin 15.1 - Screencast and Screenshots https://t.co/qF6a1Bf7O1'Feb 03 12:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/84d6bklKWjFeb 03 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 12:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 03 12:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/obdie8df94Feb 03 12:28
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cubexyzfoss-matrix updated:Feb 03 13:21
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txtFeb 03 13:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 of the best free Linux firewallsFeb 03 14:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-AppsFeb 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux Mint 18 "Sarah"Feb 03 14:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat looks to establish PHL unitFeb 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QMoXQDIz5g (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat looks to establish PHL unit | Tux MachinesFeb 03 14:40
cubexyza while back I wrote that koffice was discontinuedFeb 03 14:59
cubexyzbut actually there's koffice-trinityFeb 03 14:59
cubexyzback in 2010 there was a split... koffice and calligraFeb 03 15:01
cubexyzso all the good stuff we all knew from KDE 3.5.10 still exists: kivio, kugar, karbon, kplato, kspread, kpresenter, etcFeb 03 15:02
cubexyzI'm doing all this on q4os Feb 03 15:04
cubexyzso that's TDE-3.5.13-2Feb 03 15:04
cubexyzno systemd worries, just download q4os-0.5.31-i386.isoFeb 03 15:06
MinceRhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/2/donald-trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize/Feb 03 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtontimes.com | Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize - Washington TimesFeb 03 15:10
cubexyzthe borg is at it againFeb 03 15:11
cubexyzM$ buys SwiftkeyFeb 03 15:11
schestowitzwho are they?Feb 03 15:12
schestowitzprobably some useless crapFeb 03 15:12
schestowitzthey just hired their employeesFeb 03 15:12
cubexyzpredictive keyboard technology companyFeb 03 15:13
schestowitzand made up some number for publicity purposesFeb 03 15:13
schestowitzmeh. who needs it...Feb 03 15:13
schestowitzmaybe MS wants to make money from hardware by slapping its crappy logo on itFeb 03 15:13
schestowitzas they did with webcams and miceFeb 03 15:13
cubexyzcould be useful for disabled folks thoughFeb 03 15:15
cubexyzthere's google keyboard for android, but I've never used AndroidFeb 03 15:16
schestowitznot even on some terminal, e.g. on a plane, equipment, surveys at some stores?Feb 03 15:18
schestowitzthey're used extensively to run 'apps' without exposing the OSFeb 03 15:18
schestowitznot just in tablets and phones, eitherFeb 03 15:18
cubexyzit's possible I've used it without realizing itFeb 03 15:18
schestowitzall the machines at the gym I go to now have Android on themFeb 03 15:18
cubexyze.g. if bookstores used it, then I might haveFeb 03 15:18
schestowitzI noticed yesterday, when speaking to someone at the gym, that many call software just apps now, even on desktopsFeb 03 15:19
schestowitzit's a new buzzword, 'app'Feb 03 15:19
schestowitzthe "chrome app"Feb 03 15:19
schestowitzthe "email app"Feb 03 15:19
schestowitzeven on WindowsFeb 03 15:19
cubexyzI have a zaurus :)Feb 03 15:20
cubexyzit had something called ipkgFeb 03 15:21
cubexyztotally out of date nowFeb 03 15:21
cubexyzWaterloo does a lot with androidFeb 03 15:23
cubexyzI just want a decent keyboard Feb 03 15:25
MinceRswiftkey is installed on many android devicesFeb 03 15:25
MinceRlooks like m$ wants to inject their malware into themFeb 03 15:25
cubexyzahaFeb 03 15:25
cubexyzand it's on iOS as wellFeb 03 15:26
cubexyzso my borg comment takes on added significanceFeb 03 15:26
cubexyzI'm thinking of buying one of those bluetooth keyboardsFeb 03 15:30
MinceRdo you have a link to a report of m$ buying swiftkey?Feb 03 15:31
msb_I've been using the word "app" short for application, not system software.Feb 03 15:31
MinceRwell, that's what it's short forFeb 03 15:32
msb_Maybe swiftkey is for "devices" -- phones, etc -- that don't have real keyboards.  Again, getting away from general purpose computers.Feb 03 15:32
MinceRalso, maybe swiftkey owns software patentsFeb 03 15:33
MinceRyou can connect a real keyboard to most android devices via usbFeb 03 15:33
cubexyzhttp://mobile.slashdot.org/story/16/02/03/1351209/microsoft-to-acquire-swiftkey-predictive-keyboard-technology-company-for-250mFeb 03 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.slashdot.org | Microsoft To Acquire SwiftKey Predictive Keyboard Technology Company For $250M - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/oh7aj ]Feb 03 15:33
cubexyzI'm sure someone will create a FOSS version of swiftkey, assuming one hasn't been created alreadyFeb 03 15:35
msb_http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RswbgKulL._SY355_.jpgFeb 03 15:38
MinceRthxFeb 03 15:42
MinceRwell, there are many free software virtual keyboardsFeb 03 15:42
MinceRnone that support split layouts as far as i know, thoughFeb 03 15:43
schestowitzsoftware patents could be used there ORFeb 03 15:43
schestowitzsome bundled crap like CortanaFeb 03 15:43
schestowitzbut we shall seeFeb 03 15:43
schestowitzI think it's some bogus numberFeb 03 15:43
schestowitzlike that time Red Hat bought a puppet rivalFeb 03 15:43
schestowitzMicrosoft still loses money in old monopoly areas, so they hardly know what the heck they're doingFeb 03 15:44
schestowitzthat's why they bought skypeFeb 03 15:44
schestowitzthey could never make a phone that's worth a f*Feb 03 15:44
schestowitzso they try to take over pertinent apps or functionalityFeb 03 15:44
schestowitz[20:10] <MinceR> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/2/donald-trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize/Feb 03 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtontimes.com | Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize - Washington TimesFeb 03 15:45
schestowitzSo was HitlerFeb 03 15:45
schestowitznomination does not say muchFeb 03 15:45
schestowitzI think it's not too hard to nominate. Winning is another thing.Feb 03 15:45
MinceRwinning does not say much eitherFeb 03 15:46
MinceRsince obama and othersFeb 03 15:46
cubexyzwhy did they nominate Trump?Feb 03 15:46
schestowitzBut Rump will jerk himself off to the GOP site (WashTImes) 'news'.Feb 03 15:46
MinceRcould be genuine belief, could be trollingFeb 03 15:46
MinceRcould be a PR stuntFeb 03 15:46
schestowitzprobably, not badFeb 03 15:46
schestowitzRump is all publicity stuntsFeb 03 15:46
schestowitzoutrageous statement so as to command the mediaFeb 03 15:47
schestowitzBut then, a lot of people would vote for any non-Rump GOP candidate just to keep "the craziest one" outFeb 03 15:47
schestowitzThat's why some people might vote Tories/CameronFeb 03 15:47
schestowitzto keep the more right-wing nuts, or UKIP/BNPFeb 03 15:48
schestowitzOr Jobbik in AbsurbistanFeb 03 15:48
schestowitzOrban as 'moderate'Feb 03 15:48
schestowitzThank G****** we got Orbn!!Feb 03 15:48
schestowitz"Could be worse with those neonazis..."Feb 03 15:48
schestowitzsame as in pricing tricksFeb 03 15:49
schestowitzput lots of super-expensive items, e.g. keyboardsFeb 03 15:49
schestowitzand then, after a while, present a cheaper (but still overpriced) oneFeb 03 15:49
schestowitzcompared to all the branded crap it looks like a "reasonable" priceFeb 03 15:49
schestowitzand you sell overprices crap. In politics you can market Hawks this wayFeb 03 15:50
schestowitzClinton not as bad as banning all Muslims entrants to the USFeb 03 15:50
msb_either the GOP winner or the other one after Rump explicitly accepted the support of one psycho who advocates killing abortion doctors, and another who says jews who don't accept jesus should be hunted down and killed, eg, by someone like Hitler.Feb 03 15:51
msb_I think that even mainstream Islam is dangerous.  As a mind-virus it's too successful.Feb 03 15:53
msb_And it dictates laws, food, clothing, etcFeb 03 15:54
msb_I think would-be muslim immigrants should be given a Voight-Kampff test or something, and if they're true believers they should be kept out.Feb 03 15:57
msb_I mean muslim would-be immigrantsFeb 03 15:59
msb_Islam is also anti-woman.Feb 03 16:02
msb_And it contains at least the seeds of jihadism.Feb 03 16:02
abeNd-orgmsb_ & you are the "ignorant racist" for even thinking about things like that :PFeb 03 16:03
msb_Just the opposite of ignorant -- I know too much.Feb 03 16:04
abeNd-orggood luck convincing people of thatFeb 03 16:05
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msb_I don't care about a person's skin color, nation, language, anything like that.  But if they have a dangerous contagious disease -- biological or psychological -- _that_ I care about.Feb 03 16:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/PqnOeKDV6MFeb 03 16:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     [FOSS] Popcorn Time makes a comebackFeb 03 16:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Poppins | Tux MachinesFeb 03 17:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are hereFeb 03 17:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are here | Tux MachinesFeb 03 17:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/DAO9uT3w3JFeb 03 17:06
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schestowitz>   Longtime Engineering Leader Jon DeVaan Is LeavingFeb 03 18:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 18:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 18:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 18:42
schestowitz> http://www.geekwire.com/2013/longtime-microsoft-engineering-leader-jon-devaan-leaving/Feb 03 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekwire.com | Longtime Microsoft engineering leader Jon DeVaan is leaving - GeekWire [ http://ur1.ca/oh851 ]Feb 03 18:42
schestowitz>  Feb 03 18:42
schestowitz>  Feb 03 18:42
schestowitz>  Feb 03 18:42
schestowitz> Microsoft Whistleblowing Alleges That Microsoft/Jon DeVaan Engages inFeb 03 18:42
schestowitz> Political Corruption/Election FraudFeb 03 18:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 18:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 18:42
schestowitz>     http://techrights.org/2010/10/02/govt-bribery-nymshifting-allegationFeb 03 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Whistleblowing Alleges That Microsoft/Jon DeVaan Engages in Political Corruption/Election Fraud | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1wf8k ]Feb 03 18:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland News https://t.co/1CiCxWZbDnFeb 03 19:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $40, 64-bit Odroid SBC runs Linux on 2GHzFeb 03 19:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Cortex-A53 https://t.co/FQCq9Qs9QCFeb 03 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $40, 64-bit Odroid SBC runs Linux on 2GHz Cortex-A53 | Tux MachinesFeb 03 19:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/TKnfsI8hd0Feb 03 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 03 19:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/LIq794fUXCFeb 03 19:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE 13.1 Linux Has Reached End of Life,Feb 03 19:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Evergreen Team Takes OverFeb 03 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE 13.1 Linux Has Reached End of Life, Evergreen Team Takes Over | Tux MachinesFeb 03 19:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/8TO1YSLCGGFeb 03 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 03 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #RedHat employee makes viral rap video aboutFeb 03 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 #Raleigh https://t.co/Np869K2a4o (abc11.com)Feb 03 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #LittleBigPlanet developers seeking funding forFeb 03 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 co-op action adventure, #Linux confirmedFeb 03 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU/Linux Wins The Web  https://t.co/c1IqdTHj1sFeb 03 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Overpriced (IMHO) laptop with #gnu #linux fromFeb 03 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OB07XQvSlI (www.digitaltrends.com)Feb 03 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YvshjTP7Sh (www.fiercecio.com)Feb 03 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #pcworld resells itFeb 03 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google lays bare security flaws in anti-malwareFeb 04 04:17
TweetTuxMachines                 product with 250 million usersFeb 04 04:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZsmC956Jdc (www.zdnet.com) don'tFeb 04 04:17
TweetTuxMachines                 install such crapFeb 04 04:17
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schestowitzRe: EPO at CeBIT !Feb 04 04:36
schestowitz> http://www.cebit.de/exhibitor/european-patent-office/E303042Feb 04 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cebit.de | European Patent Office (München) - Exhibitor - CeBIT 2016Feb 04 04:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 04:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 04:36
schestowitz>       Company profileFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 04:36
schestowitz> Patents for software? - As the patent office for Europe, we supportFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> innovation, competitiveness and economic growth across Europe throughFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> our commitment to high quality and efficient services delivered underFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> the European Patent Convention (EPC). Under the EPC, a computer programFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> claimed "as such" is not a patentable invention Patents are not grantedFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> merely for program listings. For a patent to be granted for aFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> computer-implemented invention, a technical problem has to be solved inFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> a novel and non-obvious manner.Feb 04 04:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 04:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 04:36
schestowitz>     Product categoriesFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 04:36
schestowitz> Services and consulting relating to patent protection and trademarkFeb 04 04:36
schestowitz> protection, intellectual propertyFeb 04 04:37
schestowitz> <http://www.cebit.de/exhibitor/european-patent-office/E303042#>Feb 04 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cebit.de | European Patent Office (München) - Exhibitor - CeBIT 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/oha51 ]Feb 04 04:37
schestowitzYes, I noticed this yesterday. They're doing it again this morning:Feb 04 04:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EPOorg/status/695167829373501441Feb 04 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: Are you going to #CeBIT this year (14-18 March)? Come and see us: https://t.co/N2lWaLVUxfFeb 04 04:37
schestowitzsee http://techrights.org/2016/02/04/epo-swpats-and-cebit/Feb 04 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Company Known as European Patent Office Provides Tips on How to Patent Software in Europe | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/oha56 ]Feb 04 04:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/695179693633466368Feb 04 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Source code listings is a real insult to software development.Feb 04 04:43
schestowitzPretending they're authors of some MS Word documentFeb 04 04:43
schestowitz"Feb 04 04:51
schestowitzplease find news from the EPO (below) and attached cartoons expressing staff's mood.Feb 04 04:51
schestowitzregards,Feb 04 04:51
schestowitz"Feb 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat looks to establish PHL unitFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jpFyJ7mDrO (bworldonline.com) Feb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux  #redhat #philippines #asia #freeswFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha77Feb 04 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bworldonline.com | BusinessWorld | Red Hat looks to establish PHL unitFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Flock 2016: Kraków, #PolandFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jkPbbtGwMx (fedoramagazine.org)Feb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 #redhat #fedora organises/attends eventsFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/d8WWbLU2VN (atodorov.org)Feb 04 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/flock-2016-krakow-poland/ )Feb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha78Feb 04 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-atodorov.org | FOSDEM 2016 ReportFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GPG: a Fedora primer https://t.co/ZeDPPsBGgzFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (fedoramagazine.org) #fedora #gpg #encryptionFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #fedora #redhatFeb 04 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/gnupg-a-fedora-primer/ )Feb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha79Feb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 terrific Android apps you can’t get on theFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 #Phone https://t.co/HaDhljh9Qp (bgr.com)Feb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Apple=branding. #android #linuxFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha7aFeb 04 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Best Android exclusive apps: Download 6 apps not found on the iPhone | BGRFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build,Feb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 LTSFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Vsl9otggDq (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha7bFeb 04 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build, Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 LTS | Tux MachinesFeb 04 05:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1Feb 04 05:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Snappy Creator ToolFeb 04 05:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/X9ua26j5Zx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 05:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha7cFeb 04 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1 Ubuntu Snappy Creator Tool | Tux MachinesFeb 04 05:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The case for educating judges on open sourceFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 licensing https://t.co/uxWqwHOaEHFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha89Feb 04 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The case for educating judges on open source licensing | Tux MachinesFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 6 open source CRM tools for 2016Feb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7xdMhqonlp (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha8aFeb 04 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 6 open source CRM tools for 2016 | Tux MachinesFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Go phish your own staff: Dev builds open-sourceFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 fool-testing tool https://t.co/WS7HXDBkzBFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha8cFeb 04 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go phish your own staff: Dev builds open-source fool-testing tool | Tux MachinesFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #coala 0.4 – #eucalyptusFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UX2FAWpPFRFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (wordpress.schuirmann.eu) #gnu #linux #gnomeFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 #pythonFeb 04 05:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha8dFeb 04 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wordpress.schuirmann.eu | coala 0.4 – eucalyptus – Lasse's BlogFeb 04 05:12
schestowitznews from the EPO  and  cartoons just published Feb 04 05:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BlackBerry's Android Priv smartphone launchingFeb 04 05:19
TweetTuxMachines                 on Optus https://t.co/FD8g7YBFMVFeb 04 05:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com) #android #linux #blackberryFeb 04 05:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha91Feb 04 05:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | BlackBerry's Android Priv smartphone launching on Optus | ZDNetFeb 04 05:19
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build,...'Feb 04 05:19
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1 Ubuntu Snappy Creator...'Feb 04 05:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google’s Android Devices May Go The hypePhoneFeb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Route https://t.co/UhJl0rIRoH (www.popsci.com)Feb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 #android #linux #googleFeb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaauFeb 04 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popsci.com | Google’s Android Devices May Go The iPhone Route | Popular ScienceFeb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "create Tizen 2.3 or 2.4 native applicationsFeb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 that can send your location"Feb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/njVdo7mdzV (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 not good, disallow that. #samsung #linuxFeb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaavFeb 04 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Video - Tizen Native Geocode API - Tizen ExpertsFeb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 of the best free #Linux #firewallsFeb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c7Jm8j922S (www.techradar.com)Feb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaawFeb 04 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | 6 of the best free Linux firewalls | TechRadarFeb 04 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-AppsFeb 04 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux Mint 18 "Sarah"Feb 04 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hOD3dsDBXt (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxmint #gnu #linuxFeb 04 06:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohad0Feb 04 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-Apps for Linux Mint 18 "Sarah"Feb 04 06:07
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-Apps...'Feb 04 06:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Online Summit for Ubuntu 16.10 to StartFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 in May https://t.co/xtdxknYf2IFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com) https://t.co/RGfiSOu1qxFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 04 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Online Summit for Ubuntu 16.10 to Start in MayFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaddFeb 04 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu 16.10 Planning Will Take Place At UOS In May: What Do You Hope To See? - PhoronixFeb 04 06:13
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Online Summit for Ubuntu 16.10 to Start...'Feb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End ofFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Life, Users Urged to Upgrade NowFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3TeyLMECll (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadeFeb 04 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade Now | Tux MachinesFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2Feb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, NVMe Device CloningFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FPzb5iezPP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadfFeb 04 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2 Support, NVMe Device Cloning | Tux MachinesFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hoodie aims to be one of open source's mostFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 diverse and inclusive communitiesFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rmXghpVeMf (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadgFeb 04 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hoodie aims to be one of open source's most diverse and inclusive communities | Tux MachinesFeb 04 06:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out NowFeb 04 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 for Windows Refugees - Screenshot TourFeb 04 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5QvQonvV3Q (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 06:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadrFeb 04 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out Now for Windows Refugees - Screenshot Tour | Tux MachinesFeb 04 06:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone Users Getting Patch for Mir BugFeb 04 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 That Made Their Devices UnstableFeb 04 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6E6Pejczgu (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 06:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadsFeb 04 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phone Users Getting Patch for Mir Bug That Made Their Devices Unstable | Tux MachinesFeb 04 06:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone Users Getting Patch for Mir Bug...'Feb 04 06:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out...'Feb 04 06:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2 Support,...'Feb 04 06:17
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End of...'Feb 04 07:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are hereFeb 04 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MBbfifGKYt (zoringroup.com)Feb 04 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #zorinos #gnu #linuxFeb 04 07:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohajyFeb 04 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zoringroup.com | Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are here | The official Zorin BlogFeb 04 07:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Build2 : Another New C++ Build Toolchain /Feb 04 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Build System / Package ManagerFeb 04 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Xk1ZAtsPac (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #programming #cppFeb 04 07:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohajzFeb 04 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Build2: Another New C++ Build Toolchain / Build System / Package Manager - PhoronixFeb 04 07:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ladyfox14/status/695217414741454848Feb 04 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ladyfox14: @aral @schestowitz - Yup. Removed it because it's almost always running in the background and it takes up so much space.Feb 04 07:37
schestowitz(Facebook)Feb 04 07:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/695227464784723968Feb 04 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @lifehacker The big issue here is this expectation of free. It means the company cant afford to care.Feb 04 07:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/695228213384056832Feb 04 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Really owning (controlling) what we buy is becoming even more important. #privacy https://t.co/8Jez4fk3SbFeb 04 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In-house mass #surveillance standards for #internet -connected devices with sensors (e.g. cameras) https://t.co/WQ2pq43ut8 #iotFeb 04 07:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/695229140295925760Feb 04 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Reminded, daily, of @zmaglh's surveillance manifesto: "every object the individual uees…", https://t.co/2RRCOzhxsT https://t.co/8Jez4fk3SbFeb 04 07:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Wayland 1.10 Beta Released Along With #WestonFeb 04 07:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Update https://t.co/1dA2by3LMkFeb 04 07:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #graphics #linuxFeb 04 07:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaohFeb 04 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland 1.10 Beta Released Along With Weston Update - PhoronixFeb 04 07:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Poppins https://t.co/np9NxMjeORFeb 04 08:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com) #freeswFeb 04 08:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaqfFeb 04 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Poppins | Linux JournalFeb 04 08:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MEM 5.0 Aims to Simplify #OpenStack Management Feb 04 08:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/B2NcrgDyW1 (www.linux.com)Feb 04 08:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaqgFeb 04 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | MEM 5.0 Aims to Simplify OpenStack Management | Linux.comFeb 04 08:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why #Enlightenment & #Tizen Love #WaylandFeb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vhv6c7IbHN (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QISJX2Sdzg (www.phoronix.com) Feb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VrwAhDO8MHFeb 04 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Why Enlightenment & Tizen Love Wayland - PhoronixFeb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (phab.enlightenment.org) #graphics #linuxFeb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaqzFeb 04 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Enlightenment 0.20.4 Released With A Number Of Wayland Fixes - PhoronixFeb 04 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/3/post/e20_4_release/ )Feb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More Fedora 24 Changes Being Discussed: GlibcFeb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 2.23, Graphical System UpgradesFeb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YVY6DmXlru (www.phoronix.com) #f24Feb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #fedora #redhatFeb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohar0Feb 04 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | More Fedora 24 Changes Being Discussed: Glibc 2.23, Graphical System Upgrades - PhoronixFeb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #nvidia exclusives now? Torvalds should showFeb 04 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 them the finger https://t.co/sFXjDJaI11Feb 04 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/AmLeco9Ik1Feb 04 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/52FEgMwNEeFeb 04 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | XCOM 2 for Linux Launches Only with Nvidia Support, Intel and AMD to FollowFeb 04 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 04 08:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohar1Feb 04 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Highly-Anticipated XCOM 2 Game For Linux Will Be NVIDIA-Only - PhoronixFeb 04 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | XCOM 2 can be pre-loaded ready for release on SteamOS/Linux & exact release time revealed | GamingOnLinuxFeb 04 08:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LetUsComment/status/695236193030639623Feb 04 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LetUsComment: Sans surprise. https://t.co/Iwzg2DrygZFeb 04 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Uninstalling #Facebook app saves up to 20% of #Android battery life https://t.co/5MAiQZu83g malware, not an app, 24/7 physical trackingFeb 04 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mir 0.19 Brings Fixes, #Mir 0.20 Now InFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Development https://t.co/PkOHi2KugzFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #canonical #ubuntu #gnuFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxFeb 04 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mir 0.19 Brings Fixes, Mir 0.20 Now In Development - PhoronixFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohasvFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Ubuntu Developers Release #Snapcraft 2.1Feb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/08odELLAxH (www.phoronix.com) #gnuFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaswFeb 04 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu Developers Release Snapcraft 2.1 - PhoronixFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Is Now Bringing The ObservationFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Architecture To Their Linux DriverFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/o69WYl2b9Z (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #intel #linuxFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohasxFeb 04 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Is Now Bringing The Observation Architecture To Their Linux Driver - PhoronixFeb 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Docker 1.10 Designed to Bolster #ContainerFeb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security https://t.co/JEQ6jGMgRcFeb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.eweek.com) #freeswFeb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaw9Feb 04 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Docker 1.10 Designed to Bolster Container SecurityFeb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #LinuxLite 2.8 - Screencast and Screenshots Feb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pLD4AGJkL0Feb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org) more atFeb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EbSeHMjVz3Feb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Feb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohawaFeb 04 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Linux Lite 2.8 - Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 04 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Linux Lite 2.8 Released With Linux Kernel 3.19, BTRFS Support And More - LinuxAndUbuntuFeb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/FU9UqYH1w0Feb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 09:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohawbFeb 04 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 04 09:05
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454517537390#c8479904392492915187Feb 04 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 04 09:08
schestowitz"Feb 04 09:08
schestowitz @glyn moodyFeb 04 09:08
schestowitzArticle 59 of the EPO Service Regulations reads as follows:Feb 04 09:08
schestowitz(1)(a) Permanent employees shall be entitled to annual leave of thirty working days per calendar year. For the purposes of this chapter, Saturdays shall not count as working days. Annual leave should normally be taken before the end of the current calendar year. If this is not possible because of the requirements of the service, it must be taken in the next following year.Feb 04 09:08
schestowitzThe EPO Service Regulations can be found here:Feb 04 09:08
schestowitzhttp://www.epo.org/news-issues/press/releases/archive/2015/20150930.htmlFeb 04 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO publishes its staff rules and regulations [ http://ur1.ca/ohawm ]Feb 04 09:08
schestowitzThe link for downloading the Service Regulations:Feb 04 09:08
schestowitzhttp://www.epo.org/service-support/publications.html#id=108Feb 04 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Publications [ http://ur1.ca/ohawn ]Feb 04 09:08
schestowitz"Feb 04 09:08
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454527348284#c8772416040698107496Feb 04 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax1 ]Feb 04 09:10
schestowitz"I would like to join my voice to the chorus of praise for the work of Mr Glyn Moody and for the rapid correction in the excellent report of the wrong information about leave. Bravo! "Feb 04 09:10
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454529263795#c3601889691333479052Feb 04 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax3 ]Feb 04 09:10
schestowitz"Feb 04 09:10
schestowitz His experience is all at the Patent Office of France, which doesn't do any examination of patentability whatsoever. Instead it grants you a patent as soon as you pay him his fees.Feb 04 09:10
schestowitzSounds like the indulgences racket of the medieval papacy. Feb 04 09:10
schestowitz"Feb 04 09:10
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454543903459#c2892865990863854560Feb 04 09:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax4 ]Feb 04 09:11
schestowitz" For comparison, when I was an examiner with the UKIPO between the mid-1970's and 1989, annual leave was initially 25 days, rising to 30 days after 10 years' service. To these were added around 8 1/2 days for the usual public holidays and privilege holidays for events such as the Queen's birthday and Maunday Thursday. I don't know what the present situation is. "Feb 04 09:11
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454568937515#c2868803486951504442Feb 04 09:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax7 ]Feb 04 09:11
schestowitz"Feb 04 09:11
schestowitz @ all the people praising Mr. Moody and his articleFeb 04 09:11
schestowitzwhile adding my voice to this chorus, I warmly suggest you to reiterate or write your comments on HIS blog.Feb 04 09:12
schestowitzThis will only further stimulate the discussion.Feb 04 09:12
schestowitzAlso, a copy should be defiinitely forwarded to the british member(s) of the Administrative Council of the EPO.Feb 04 09:12
schestowitzBut really, thanks Mr. Moody for such a detailed and well researched article. Feb 04 09:12
schestowitz"Feb 04 09:12
schestowitzYou got mentioned here http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 04 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh1uw ]Feb 04 09:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $40, 64-bit Odroid SBC runs Linux on 2GHzFeb 04 09:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #MadMax looks like it really is coming toFeb 04 09:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Batman: Arkham Knight Gets Canceled For Linux - PhoronixFeb 04 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE 13.1 Linux Has Reached End of Life,Feb 04 09:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Unofficial Linux Kernel 4.4.1 Available Now for Slackware 14.2 and DerivativesFeb 04 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1Feb 04 09:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1 Ubuntu Snappy Creator ToolFeb 04 09:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/Khzp3bbm9pFeb 04 09:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 04 09:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End ofFeb 04 09:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade NowFeb 04 09:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2Feb 04 09:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2 Support, NVMe Device CloningFeb 04 09:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out NowFeb 04 09:52
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cubexyzseeing tons of new smurf attacksFeb 04 13:50
cubexyzsomething knocked out the routerFeb 04 13:51
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454585031427#c71186501115529646Feb 04 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohbya ]Feb 04 15:43
schestowitz" Thanks to everyone for providing links to the 30 days information, and for the kind words. "Feb 04 15:43
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/02/epo-appoints-new-chief-economist.html?showComment=1454588096595#c2243808389875867038Feb 04 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO appoints new Chief Economist [ http://ur1.ca/ohbyd ]Feb 04 15:43
schestowitz"Feb 04 15:43
schestowitzwhat a coincidence : another frenchman !Feb 04 15:43
schestowitzIt is like the staff reps sanctioned : all suepo officials... another coincidence like VP1 recently said in an interview for Dutch NieuwsuurFeb 04 15:43
schestowitzle hasard fait bien les choses Feb 04 15:43
schestowitz"Feb 04 15:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/695264306062090240Feb 04 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @J_Utah I would read that book.Feb 04 15:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/695255545616408576Feb 04 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @peterkofod Perish the thought.Feb 04 15:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/695359958859120642Feb 04 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: Drake case represented an attempt by government officials to send a chilling message to whistleblowers: "Shut up.” https://t.co/1wuNh8d5fbFeb 04 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why Did The Government Prosecute This Original #NSA Whistleblower? https://t.co/qf1wIRRQr9 ... https://t.co/A9YYonWQDsFeb 04 16:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/695360958412169217Feb 04 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@theGuruWithin: .@BernieSanders #WarPeace #MLK #WeEndorseBernie .@nn99org #LOVELUTION #BLM .@YYogaMovie https://t.co/6m3wZIkE0U https://t.co/dRc4u4E3iJFeb 04 16:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/695269445384667137Feb 04 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: Don't we all? https://t.co/0Cq4sE5jvSFeb 04 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Makakke: @Snowden "Politikerverdrossenheit" would be more correct. German people have more apathy about politicians, not about politics in general.Feb 04 16:41
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Samoan_Attorney/status/695363192780779522Feb 04 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Samoan_Attorney: @schestowitz strong, strong words.Feb 04 16:51
schestowitzCruz has double standardsFeb 04 16:51
MinceR(javascript) (audio) http://trumpdonald.org/Feb 04 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trumpdonald.org | TrumpDonald.orgFeb 04 16:55
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454599942794#c1267551618688276886Feb 04 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 04 16:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 16:56
schestowitz There is no such thing as the French Patent Office (FPO).Feb 04 16:56
schestowitzThe Grande Nation has a National Institute of Industrial Property known as the INPI ! Feb 04 16:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 16:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 16:56
schestowitz "How kind of Madhouse to write in and say that I am "rather wrong"."Feb 04 16:56
schestowitzIndeed I was kind, I could have written "completely wrong". I didn't at all confirm what you said. The FPO's examination on patentability may be limited, but there is one, contrary to what you said, and your answer is "rather" graceless, I'm sorry. That'll teach me to try to improve your patent education in the future.Feb 04 16:56
schestowitzI'm not French myself, but I really can't abide with the pervasive French-bashing in all Battistelli-related threads. He's hardly beloved in his home country, you know, and AFAIK, the staff of the FPO was also quite glad to see the back of him when he left...Feb 04 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | The College Where Martin Luther King Is Problematic - The Daily BeastFeb 04 17:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Justin W. Flory: How do you Fedora?Feb 04 17:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Justin W. Flory: How do you Fedora?Feb 04 17:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Justin W. Flory: How do you Fedora? | Tux MachinesFeb 04 17:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 ReleasedFeb 04 17:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 Released | Tux MachinesFeb 04 17:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu ConvergedFeb 04 17:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 TabletFeb 04 17:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu Converged Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 Tablet | Tux MachinesFeb 04 17:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 ReleasedFeb 04 17:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 Released | DNFFeb 04 17:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ubuntu converged https://t.co/8mgKNKrRIIFeb 04 17:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu Converged Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 TabletFeb 04 17:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Canonical fulfills its Linux convergence vision with BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition tabletFeb 04 17:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Canonical announce first converged Ubuntu tablet - the Aquaris M10 | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 04 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Canonical Lands Ubuntu Linux on Tablets for Computing ConvergenceFeb 04 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Ubuntu Tablets Arrive: Canonical Reaches Convergence for Linux-Based OS | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 04 17:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - AbsolutelyFeb 04 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 fantastic https://t.co/2hqpbBEp5KFeb 04 17:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - Absolutely fantasticFeb 04 17:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bosyber/status/695380689034698752Feb 04 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosyber: Glad I live in an open democracy, German parliament clearly has access to all info it needs. Wait, what? https://t.co/bDKHbgYE1sFeb 04 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tiny Cell With Omnipresent Guard, Visitors Just Twice A Day: #TAFTA / #TTIP German 'Transparency' Room https://t.co/4UjafUoeFy by @glynmoodyFeb 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Application Spotlight: TerminologyFeb 04 18:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.toolbox.com | Application Spotlight: TerminologyFeb 04 18:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PSA: Support for #Ubuntu 15.04 Ends TodayFeb 04 18:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu 15.04 Is No More, As Canonical Axe Official SupportFeb 04 18:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Endless Is The Latest Company To Join GNOME'sFeb 04 18:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Endless Is The Latest Company To Join GNOME's Advisory Board - PhoronixFeb 04 18:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/695384435106054146Feb 04 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: The corporatization of #linux. Usually the death knell for #OSS products. https://t.co/5hk3LfbDCJFeb 04 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today I was thinking of the term "Linux advocate". I think they ceased to exist about a decade ago when corporations took over this job.Feb 04 18:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/695384435106054146Feb 04 18:13
cubexyzwe are the real linux advocates, the grass roots onesFeb 04 18:14
cubexyzlots of countries have their own distrosFeb 04 18:14
cubexyzAntiX, Q4OS, Vector Linux, OpenBSD, BL3 to name a fewFeb 04 18:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Tablet: Everything You Need to KnowFeb 04 18:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Everything You Need to Know About The Ubuntu TabletFeb 04 18:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Canonical reinvents the personal mobile computing experience | Ubuntu InsightsFeb 04 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Canonical Reveals The Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet - PhoronixFeb 04 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Here comes the first Ubuntu Linux tablet | ZDNetFeb 04 18:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First X-Apps, openSUSE Board, Faces of FOSSFeb 04 18:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PhDX3sDDyG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 18:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First X-Apps, openSUSE Board, Faces of FOSS | Tux MachinesFeb 04 18:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - AbsolutelyFeb 04 18:43
TweetTuxMachines                 fantastic https://t.co/1uphNC2rM1Feb 04 18:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 18:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcn1Feb 04 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - Absolutely fantastic | Tux MachinesFeb 04 18:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More on BQ Aquaris M10 https://t.co/Qi8166rwKBFeb 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcnkFeb 04 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on BQ Aquaris M10 | Tux MachinesFeb 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PSA: Weird Worlds: Return to Infinite Space nowFeb 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 on Linux https://t.co/bm2ItFBk7DFeb 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (gamepolitics.com)Feb 04 18:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gamepolitics.com | PSA: Weird Worlds: Return to Infinite Space now on Linux – GamePoliticsFeb 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Community Calls All Artists toFeb 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Contribute Wallpapers to Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/KJjQsbwGGU (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 04 18:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcnmFeb 04 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Community Calls All Artists to Contribute Wallpapers to Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 04 18:48
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Community Calls All Artists to Contribute Wallpapers...'Feb 04 19:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Freeciv 2.5.2 Free Strategy Game Is Inspired byFeb 04 19:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Original Civilization https://t.co/5XYpyHK2OTFeb 04 19:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Freeciv 2.5.2 Free Strategy Game Is Inspired by Original CivilizationFeb 04 19:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Freeciv 2.5.2 Free Strategy Game Is Inspired by...'Feb 04 19:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old GamesFeb 04 19:16
TweetTuxMachines                 from SNES Era https://t.co/BaO1yaNi1bFeb 04 19:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 19:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old Games from SNES EraFeb 04 19:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RadeonSI Gallium3D Can Work With XCOM 2 OnFeb 04 19:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/wubLy1PZTLFeb 04 19:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 19:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | RadeonSI Gallium3D Can Work With XCOM 2 On Linux - PhoronixFeb 04 19:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old...'Feb 04 19:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here Is What Happens When Trying To UseFeb 04 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Non-NVIDIA Drivers To Play XCOM 2 On LinuxFeb 04 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uWab35yUV7 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 19:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohctmFeb 04 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Here Is What Happens When Trying To Use Non-NVIDIA Drivers To Play XCOM 2 On Linux - PhoronixFeb 04 19:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FFmpeg 2.8.6 "Feynman" Released, Drops SupportFeb 04 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 for VisualOn AAC and libaacplusFeb 04 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fgJJKHTpcr (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 19:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | FFmpeg 2.8.6 "Feynman" Released, Drops Support for VisualOn AAC and libaacplusFeb 04 19:28
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FFmpeg 2.8.6 "Feynman" Released, Drops Support for VisualOn...'Feb 04 19:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old GamesFeb 04 19:35
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    from SNES Era https://t.co/BaO1yaNi1bFeb 04 19:35
TweetTuxMachines @RanjibDey      (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 19:35
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*TweetTuxMachines @basche42 favourited 'Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old...'Feb 04 20:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Openwashing https://t.co/jWkWFVlrCDFeb 04 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 20:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcyyFeb 04 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing | Tux MachinesFeb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/j4h0p0BfW5Feb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcyzFeb 04 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesFeb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More on Unicef's FOSS PlansFeb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HMmgTOoSIX (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcz4Feb 04 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on Unicef's FOSS Plans | Tux MachinesFeb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/ULsrpGM0q1Feb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcz5Feb 04 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 04 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/Tp4r2JCBchFeb 04 20:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 20:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcznFeb 04 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesFeb 04 20:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/7e1WB0X8LAFeb 04 20:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 20:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohczoFeb 04 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 04 20:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/J7DgNnKOl4Feb 04 20:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 20:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohczpFeb 04 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 04 20:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/RseztMMR3AFeb 04 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 20:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohd1dFeb 04 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 04 20:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/2/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Ubuntu TabletFeb 04 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Ri3uNMgcwL (techrights.org)Feb 04 20:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/2/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Ubuntu Tablet | TechrightsFeb 04 20:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @brianfagioli favourited 'ubuntu converged https://t.co/8mgKNKrRII https://t.co/EHTZXkqHeS https://t.co/Lh3SWvS85M https://t.co/FOcU83yOw0 https://t.co/SWPOB6FfVx'Feb 04 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu Converged Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 TabletFeb 04 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Canonical fulfills its Linux convergence vision with BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition tabletFeb 04 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Canonical announce first converged Ubuntu tablet - the Aquaris M10 | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 04 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Canonical Lands Ubuntu Linux on Tablets for Computing ConvergenceFeb 04 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Ubuntu Tablets Arrive: Canonical Reaches Convergence for Linux-Based OS | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 04 21:10
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msb_UN panel finds in favor of Julian Assange, that he's been unlawfully detained for 3.5 years and should be freed.Feb 05 03:28
msb_So far, US, UK, and Sweden don't care and will arrest him.  Feb 05 03:29
msb_For giving proof of numerous US war crimes, torture, extra-judicial murders, etc.Feb 05 03:30
msb_Hillary Clinton said that Assange's revelations are "an attack on the interational community".Feb 05 03:35
msb_Of course, she took part in those war crimes herself.Feb 05 03:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/2/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Ubuntu TabletFeb 05 03:40
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/Ri3uNMgcwL (techrights.org)Feb 05 03:40
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 05 03:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unikernels https://t.co/qtpzNMt9FSFeb 05 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (etbe.coker.com.au) “When Linux applicationsFeb 05 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 have bugs that are difficult to diagnose”Feb 05 04:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oherzFeb 05 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | Unikernels « etbe - Russell CokerFeb 05 04:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “creator of the #Endless computer and operatingFeb 05 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 system, has joined the GNOME FoundationFeb 05 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 advisory board.” https://t.co/keaNz2BD4rFeb 05 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gnome.org)Feb 05 04:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnome.org | Endless joins the GNOME Advisory Board – GNOMEFeb 05 04:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google’s ‘Android N’ Possibly Referenced InFeb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung’s Galaxy S7 Edge And S Pen RelatedFeb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Listing https://t.co/wfgkju8eXBFeb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ibtimes.com)Feb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohesnFeb 05 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Google’s ‘Android N’ Possibly Referenced In Samsung’s Galaxy S7 Edge And S Pen Related ListingFeb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Yesterday, I pushed out version 2.11.18 of theFeb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Geode XOrg driver. This is the driver used byFeb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines                 the OLPC XO-1" https://t.co/hVN5FYreEbFeb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (q-funk.blogspot.co.uk)Feb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohesoFeb 05 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q-funk.blogspot.co.uk | Funkyware: ITCetera: xf86-video-geode 2.11.18Feb 05 04:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Wear gets voice calling and messageFeb 05 04:58
TweetTuxMachines                 dictation in major update Feb 05 04:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tanmtq7EK6 (www.theverge.com)Feb 05 04:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohespFeb 05 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Android Wear gets voice calling and message dictation in major update | The VergeFeb 05 04:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/695547119604801536Feb 05 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz That was really funny :)) ... but sad cus it's true and people don't realize it until it's too lateFeb 05 05:02
schestowitzSome people already take their phones, with two cameras (front and back), to the toilets. #gchq happy.Feb 05 05:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/695548349982838784Feb 05 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz :)))))Feb 05 05:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/695551094404079616Feb 05 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Brain-damaged file system in the words of His Linusness. https://t.co/PsBPslrseWFeb 05 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The dangers of HFS+ for git repositories https://t.co/3s9osETYVm #apple is rubbish... EXPENSIVE rubbish.Feb 05 05:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The best password manager on AndroidFeb 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/wG6jRdiIdE (www.greenbot.com)Feb 05 05:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com | The best password manager on AndroidFeb 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     iPhone vs Android: Almost Half Of iPhone UsersFeb 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Think Android Phones Are More AdvancedFeb 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sjD2bvrHDr (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 05:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | iPhone vs Android: Almost Half Of iPhone Users Think Android Phones Are More Advanced | Tux MachinesFeb 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IceCat 38.6.0 release https://t.co/mhBzZMabldFeb 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 05:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IceCat 38.6.0 release | Tux MachinesFeb 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rio Design HackfestFeb 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/tmeAQJXn8F (blogs.gnome.org)Feb 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohewrFeb 05 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2016/02/04/rio-design-hackfest/ )Feb 05 05:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/695551094404079616Feb 05 05:34
msb_More Assange news:  Sweden wants to interrogate him about two rape accusations, but unlike with 40 other cases, the   prosecutor has refused to come to London to do so, earning a rebuke from the highest Swedish court.Feb 05 05:50
msb_The vote of the UN Panel on arbitrary detention in Assange's favor was 3 to 1 -- very unusual that it was not unanimous.  The dissenter was from ...... Ukraine!Feb 05 05:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/695560471232057344Feb 05 05:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sainsburys: @schestowitz I'd like to reassure you we're not reducing the number of colleagues in our stores as a result of installing...1/3Feb 05 05:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/695560480971190272Feb 05 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sainsburys: @schestowitz ... self service tills. The introduction of self checkouts has allowed us to move colleagues to other...2/3Feb 05 05:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/695560489309499393Feb 05 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sainsburys: @schestowitz ... areas to help improve our service throughout the store. Chris. 3/3Feb 05 05:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 7: what we want to seeFeb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BmxQcmc1QH (www.techradar.com)Feb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf08Feb 05 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | Android 7: what we want to see | TechRadarFeb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung’s TV Plus service will soon hit TizenFeb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 TVs in South East Asia https://t.co/69g34mpqxxFeb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf09Feb 05 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung's TV Plus service will soon hit Tizen TVs in South East Asia - Tizen ExpertsFeb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IBM Supports Linux Foundation's HyperledgerFeb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Blockchain as Industry Standard, PlansFeb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Deployment https://t.co/XrlvqNYNGNFeb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (bitcoinmagazine.com)Feb 05 05:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bitcoinmagazine.com | IBM Supports Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Blockchain as Industry Standard, Plans Deployment | Bitcoin MagazineFeb 05 05:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     iPhone vs Android: Almost Half Of iPhone UsersFeb 05 05:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Think Android Phones Are More AdvancedFeb 05 05:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/A3VaqbEBgD (www.ibtimes.com)Feb 05 05:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf0pFeb 05 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | iPhone vs Android: Almost Half Of iPhone Users Think Android Phones Are More AdvancedFeb 05 05:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IceCat 38.6.0 release https://t.co/cNpHdCngSoFeb 05 06:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (savannah.gnu.org)Feb 05 06:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNUzilla - News: IceCat 38.6.0 release [Savannah]Feb 05 06:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SlackEX Released with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 andFeb 05 06:00
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE 4.14.3, Based on Slackware 14.2Feb 05 06:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T0eRvbdSmk (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 06:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf0rFeb 05 06:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SlackEX Released with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 and KDE 4.14.3, Based on Slackware 14.2Feb 05 06:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LuninuX OS 15.10 Launches as the WalkingFeb 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Walrus, Based on Ubuntu 15.10Feb 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zHTTcBWBsJ (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 05 06:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | LuninuX OS 15.10 Launches as the Walking Walrus, Based on Ubuntu 15.10Feb 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A love for technology leads to Linux and openFeb 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines                 source https://t.co/jF7NdQlLVF (opensource.com)Feb 05 06:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf13Feb 05 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | My Linux Story: Ashutosh Narayan | Opensource.comFeb 05 06:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/695563452170027008Feb 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: #UN: #Assange should walk free & be compensated for "deprivation of liberty". https://t.co/yWDmbx0LWJ https://t.co/AAV0q5dBzgFeb 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk | Julian Assange should be allowed to go free, UN panel finds - BBC NewsFeb 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Australians stuck abroad and alleged sex crimes https://t.co/b67OD2PSbV on #assangeFeb 05 06:06
schestowitzBut the money should come from the politicians who are to blame for this scandalFeb 05 06:06
*TweetTuxMachines @Todd__Davies favourited 'A love for technology leads to Linux and...'Feb 05 06:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CoreOS Launches Docker Rival Rkt 1.0Feb 05 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4DjODjiEV6 (www.eweek.com)Feb 05 06:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf23Feb 05 06:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Lite 2.8 Review At A GlanceFeb 05 06:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/qgdnhlVSQA (softwarerepo.com)Feb 05 06:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf24Feb 05 06:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla officially kills Firefox OS forFeb 05 06:09
TweetTuxMachines                 smartphones in favour of 'Connected Devices'Feb 05 06:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QHstJQO7AW (www.theregister.co.uk)Feb 05 06:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf2aFeb 05 06:09
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SlackEX Released with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 and KDE...'Feb 05 06:09
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LuninuX OS 15.10 Launches as the Walking Walrus,...'Feb 05 06:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Updated All-Snap UbuntuFeb 05 06:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy Images, Urges Users to ReflashFeb 05 06:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zPJO3W6ExZ (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 06:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf2iFeb 05 06:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Land with Older NautilusFeb 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Due to Bugs and Menubar https://t.co/CvxwJJkH6RFeb 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 06:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohf2lFeb 05 06:11
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Land with Older Nautilus...'Feb 05 06:11
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msb_Assange used to appear at balcony of Ecuadorian embassy, but no longer does because he's afraid of snipers, because multiple US politicians have called for his murder.Feb 05 06:30
msb_Big cheering crowds used to come for his appearances.Feb 05 06:31
msb_He will make a statement in 30 minutes by video.Feb 05 06:31
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r_schestowitzzoobab_:  https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695573902869852160   https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695574344467095552Feb 05 06:47
r_schestowitzIf one wrongly assumes that: 1) more/broader litigation is good. 2) companies only sue, never get sued. #upc logic.Feb 05 06:48
r_schestowitz[11:30] <msb_> Assange used to appear at balcony of Ecuadorian embassy, but no longer does because he's afraid of snipers, because multiple US politicians have called for his murder.Feb 05 06:50
r_schestowitzThey can pull an MLKFeb 05 06:50
r_schestowitzor JFKFeb 05 06:50
r_schestowitzthen blame it on some "castro fan"Feb 05 06:50
zoobab_British police will arrest him, whatever the UN saysFeb 05 06:50
r_schestowitzbut they would serve to show the public what a farce FCO isFeb 05 06:51
zoobab_FCO?Feb 05 06:52
r_schestowitzand it already embarrasses the UK and SwedenFeb 05 06:52
r_schestowitzHe exposed a naked emperorFeb 05 06:52
r_schestowitznations that are client states of Pentagon's "host nation"Feb 05 06:52
msb_We are in an interesting new era now, thanks to the Internet.  The most  powerful fascist nation in the world, the US, can no longer get away with its murderous lies and activities.  They are exposed and discussed all over the Net.Feb 05 06:53
msb_Billions of people can now find the truth, and the evidence for it, simply by pointing their browsers to the right websites.Feb 05 06:56
msb_Dear God, we may yet survive!Feb 05 06:57
msb_Assange should be appearing live on RT, and maybe other news channels, in about 2 minutes.Feb 05 06:58
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MinceR"God"Feb 05 07:01
MinceRwhat about the less powerful fascist nations?Feb 05 07:01
MinceRis it OK to be fascist for those who are not the most powerful?Feb 05 07:02
msb_MinceR: Go find someone else to misrepresent and pick a fight with.  I'm not going to bite.Feb 05 07:12
MinceRinterestingFeb 05 07:13
MinceRmentioning that there are other fascist "nation"s is "picking a fight"Feb 05 07:13
MinceRit's crimethinkFeb 05 07:13
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zoobab_http://www.lesoir.be/1112729/article/actualite/monde/2016-02-05/julian-assange-detenu-arbitrairement-selon-l-onuFeb 05 07:29
zoobab_The UN opinion is non legally bindingFeb 05 07:30
zoobab_so they will arrest him if he leaves the emabssyFeb 05 07:30
msb_Assange and his lawyers said that since the UK and Sweden are signatories to the treaties that set up the UN and its agencies, the finding of this panel _are_ legally binding.Feb 05 07:38
MinceRi wonder if anyone will enforce themFeb 05 07:39
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msb_The great John Pilger said that Assange was guilty of a crime, which is punishable by death:  telling people how the world is actually secretly run.Feb 05 07:43
msb_No one can enforce anything on the US, due to its huge military power.  All people can do is tell the truth about it over and over again, until the vast majority of the world's people detest the US, and perhaps refuse to trade with it.Feb 05 07:46
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MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160203/00502033497/ares-rights-gets-eff-lawyer-suspended-twitter-posting-mild-criticism.shtmlFeb 05 08:55
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msb_MinceR: The patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Catholic pope are going to meet for the first time since the Great Schism hundreds of years ago.  OK, there's your straight line -- go for it.Feb 05 09:07
MinceRgood for them and you, i guessFeb 05 09:07
MinceRwill st. putin also be present at the event?Feb 05 09:08
msb_You're not as smart as I thought you were, choosing to do another lying attack on me instead of delivering the  punch line: They're meeting to exchange photos of little boys.Feb 05 09:09
MinceRsee, you can do it on your ownFeb 05 09:10
MinceRi wonder if you're also able to stop stalking meFeb 05 09:10
oiaohmIn fact I don't see making a joke about paedophilia as acceptable behaviour.    Stuff like this makes it so lucky for msb_ being here instead of a channel where I have op.Feb 05 09:37
XRevan86What am I missing here?Feb 05 09:41
XRevan86What I see: msb_ said something about christians meeting, MinceR mentioned Putin, msb_ said that this is dumb and noted that joke about that catholic... thing would be better, oiaohm got very upset because msb_ mentioned the thing.Feb 05 09:45
MinceRapparently in catholicism pedophilia _is_ acceptable, thoughFeb 05 09:46
XRevan86> msb_: MinceR, OK, there's your straight line -- go for itFeb 05 09:46
XRevan86That I don't understand.Feb 05 09:46
oiaohmXRevan86: the joke is more than dumb.   Think if something like that is really happening then stupid jokes can hide facts.Feb 05 09:48
msb_XRevan86: What's going on here is that MinceR and oiaohm both go out of there way to attack me personally, even though I've given MinceR materials  to help him and I've set my IRC client so I don't even see oiaohm's posts.Feb 05 09:48
MinceRwhat's going on here is that msb_ does everything he can to prop up the russian empireFeb 05 09:48
MinceRwhether he's paid for it or just wants to watch the world burn, i don't knowFeb 05 09:49
XRevan86oiaohm: It is obvious that this is not serious. One can see if this is serious or not, so hardly a joke like that can ruin the world.Feb 05 09:50
msb_XRevan86: Regarding the "straight line", that means the setup for a joke.  MinceR frequently refers to christian priests as child molesters (which some are) so I gave him the opportunity for a funny joke, but he attacked me instead.Feb 05 09:50
XRevan86oiaohm: In fact, a joke like that reminds of the recent events that really did happen.Feb 05 09:51
MinceRXRevan86: some people insist on taking jokes seriouslyFeb 05 09:51
MinceRmsb_: not only some are, the cult uses its power to shield them against consequences.Feb 05 09:52
XRevan86MinceR: For tsar, for homeland. Feb 05 09:53
MinceRindeedFeb 05 09:54
oiaohmSomething to remember here Pope Callixtus III and Pope Alexander VIFeb 05 09:54
XRevan86MinceR: https://lurkmore.so/images/1/11/Ert.jpgFeb 05 09:54
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MinceRthough they've changed the title a few timesFeb 05 09:54
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_BorgiaFeb 05 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | House of Borgia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ohfqp ]Feb 05 09:54
XRevan86Title: For United Russia. I find it ironic that this is the name of the Russian Federation ruling party.Feb 05 09:55
MinceRall the better to show that nothing really changedFeb 05 09:55
oiaohmcatholicism has been off the rails for a long time.Feb 05 09:55
oiaohm--Alexander VI, they were suspected of many crimes, including adultery, incest, simony, theft, bribery,[citation needed] and murder-- yes that was a popeFeb 05 09:56
XRevan86MinceR: huh?Feb 05 09:56
MinceRXRevan86: from monarch, through "socialism"/etc., to the alleged "republic", names changed but the oppression remainedFeb 05 09:57
MinceRs/ch/chy/Feb 05 09:57
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XRevan86MinceR: We have a very different view on many things.Feb 05 10:00
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oiaohmcatholicism biggest issue is forgiveness you commit a sin you admit it to priest that give you stupid actions to perform and you are magically forgiven.    By the bible you are meant to require forgiveness from the person/persons you have sinned against.Feb 05 10:02
msb_XRevan86: is there a connection between Russia and Borgias?Feb 05 10:02
oiaohmSame reason Alexander VI could remain pope is the same reason paedophilia and other items were able to remain in the church.Feb 05 10:03
XRevan86msb_: Never heard of them until 14:53:07 UTC today.Feb 05 10:03
msb_XRevan86: You said "Title: For United Russia. I find it ironic that this is the name of the Russian Federation ruling party"  What did that mean?Feb 05 10:04
XRevan86(17:52:48) XRevan86: MinceR: https://lurkmore.so/images/1/11/Ert.jpgFeb 05 10:05
XRevan86msb_: It's a continuation of this.Feb 05 10:05
msb_okFeb 05 10:06
XRevan86msb_: Random historical pic from the times of Russian Civil War.Feb 05 10:06
XRevan86It is even debatable did communists won the civil war or not.Feb 05 10:12
msb_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War -- a very detailed article, which has that dragon pictureFeb 05 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Russian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 05 10:12
XRevan86msb_: Russian article is much more detailed :).Feb 05 10:14
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism  1984 in the pope rule of the Borgia was the chance to accept an settlement .Feb 05 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | East–West Schism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 05 10:14
oiaohmopps 1484Feb 05 10:14
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/BritishInterventionPoster.jpg hehFeb 05 10:15
oiaohmXRevan86: reality is Borgias are linked to the current event.  And part of the reason why settlement end up dead in the water the last time.Feb 05 10:15
msb_XRevan86: "It is even debatable did communists won the civil war or not"  ????Feb 05 10:17
XRevan86msb_: Communists didn't want Russian Empire, half-barbaric agrarian country.Feb 05 10:18
XRevan86msb_: but a world revolutionFeb 05 10:19
XRevan86and that they failed to deliverFeb 05 10:20
XRevan86And after that next debatable thing would be whether Stalin did the necessary thing or not, was he a communist or a traitor.Feb 05 10:21
msb_Well there is still hope for a better form of world socialism, since capitalism is self-destructing.Feb 05 10:22
XRevan86msb_: It's self-destructing for a very long time now. And probably will take the world with it.Feb 05 10:23
msb_The Internet is giving the whole human species a form of group consciousness, so maybe it will avoid nuclear war.Feb 05 10:25
XRevan86I don't think nuclear war is a problem. It's too dumb for anyone.Feb 05 10:26
msb_Then what, biological?Feb 05 10:26
XRevan86When one will find a way to make profits from nuclear war, then I'll start to fear.Feb 05 10:26
XRevan86msb_: Orwellian type war.Feb 05 10:27
XRevan86not nuclear, just regular warFeb 05 10:27
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XRevan86and not world war but local wars there are thereFeb 05 10:27
XRevan86there and there*Feb 05 10:28
msb_But that's based on lies, which I think the Net will help expose and dispel.Feb 05 10:28
XRevan86msb_: We already have those. Where's the Net power?Feb 05 10:29
msb_Socialists and social democrats all over the world favor international cooperation.Feb 05 10:29
msb_The truth-telling sites are evolving gradually.Feb 05 10:30
msb_It takes time for people to find them and tell other people about them.Feb 05 10:31
msb_It's like a person waking up slowly.Feb 05 10:32
XRevan86msb_: One can hope.Feb 05 10:34
msb_Look at the success of Jeremy Corbyn ("democratic socialist") and Bernie Sanders ("democratic socialist").Feb 05 10:37
XRevan86msb_: For me right now it only says that majority people apparently still have common sense out there.Feb 05 10:38
msb_The more advanced our technology gets, the fewer workers are required, so the current economic model cannot continue.Feb 05 10:39
XRevan86From two evils and one okay guy they those an okay guy. Well, that really is gret.Feb 05 10:39
XRevan86great*Feb 05 10:39
XRevan86msb_: As Marx ones said.Feb 05 10:39
msb_two evils?Feb 05 10:40
XRevan86Or was it Engels? Probably both. It was obvious back then anyway :).Feb 05 10:40
XRevan86msb_: Trump and Clinton?Feb 05 10:40
XRevan86Obvious solution to that people won't do hard work for free is to make it so they won't have to.Feb 05 10:41
XRevan86Capitalists also said that people won't do any work for free but Internet clearly shows that when people want to create, money is a complication, not a helper.Feb 05 10:43
msb_But they need to get money -- jobs -- to live.Feb 05 10:43
XRevan86msb_: Sorry, I didn't say I'm talking about communism here :).Feb 05 10:43
msb_I just heard Clinton saying that Russia is the greatest menace to the US and is trying to take over Europe.Feb 05 10:44
XRevan86Economical thing when people freely give and freely take things to and from society.Feb 05 10:44
msb_She hopes we won't remember that the US started the trouble in Ukraine.Feb 05 10:44
XRevan86In Crimea Russia was very lucky.Feb 05 10:45
XRevan86It's fun to see how some people see a real power in modern Russia :).Feb 05 10:45
msb_Russia's successful intervention against ISIL in Syria looks like real power to the US fascists.Feb 05 10:46
msb_Russia + China + Iran + India = real powerFeb 05 10:47
XRevan86msb_: Maybe, in a unionFeb 05 10:49
msb_They are forming an economic union, maybe defense also.Feb 05 10:49
msb_All those cheap SBCs being made in China will help poor people all over the world get on the Internet!Feb 05 10:50
XRevan86msb_: The biggest problem in being that union being a menace to Europe is that it would care even less than Russia alone.Feb 05 10:50
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msb_With Linux!Feb 05 10:50
XRevan86s/being //Feb 05 10:50
msb_Right -- they can trade with each other.Feb 05 10:51
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msb_Buy local meat, though.  The Chinese are known to pick up dead chickens, wash them in bleach, and sell them.Feb 05 10:55
msb_If your cat won't touch it, don't eat it.Feb 05 10:57
XRevan86msb_: I think all meat here is Russian.Feb 05 10:57
XRevan86and Belarussian :)Feb 05 10:57
XRevan86* BelarusianFeb 05 10:58
msb_Beware of GMO food from the US.  I used to eat a lot of pizzas, but I think the GMO wheat damaged my kidneys.Feb 05 10:59
XRevan86msb_: I don't think products imported from US is a problem.Feb 05 10:59
XRevan86since there are noneFeb 05 11:00
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msb_US is torturing you with sanctions.  You are lucky!Feb 05 11:00
XRevan86msb_: I don't think I've ever seen much.Feb 05 11:01
XRevan86msb_: Belarus is like a quality stamp here :).Feb 05 11:02
XRevan86Belarusian milk, Belarusian meat and meat products.Feb 05 11:03
msb_Assange is speaking from embassy balcony.  Not getting shot.  (yet)Feb 05 11:04
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msb_I wish he would get smuggled out of embassy in the trunk of a car and flown to Ecuador.Feb 05 11:10
msb_But I guess the US govt could kill him there too.Feb 05 11:11
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msb_Great.  Volcano erupting in Japan 50km from nuke plant.Feb 05 11:28
MinceR161839 < XRevan86> msb_: Communists didn't want Russian Empire, half-barbaric agrarian country.Feb 05 11:56
MinceRhow do you know what they _wanted_ vs. what they _said_ they wanted?Feb 05 11:57
MinceR162223 < msb_> Well there is still hope for a better form of world socialism, since capitalism is self-destructing.Feb 05 11:57
MinceRgood thing "socialism" didn't self-destruct. oh wait.Feb 05 11:57
MinceR164534 < XRevan86> It's fun to see how some people see a real power in modern Russia :).Feb 05 11:58
MinceRthey still have enough nukes to cause a lot of trouble.Feb 05 11:58
zoobab_Mr Assange hailed it a "significant victory" and called the decision "binding", but the UK government dismissed this.Feb 05 12:08
zoobab_http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35504237Feb 05 12:08
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MinceRi guess we'll see the fascists demolish what's left of rule of law, just to get their way in petty revengeFeb 05 12:12
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msb_MinceR: You are a master baiter -- "good thing "socialism" didn't self-destruct. oh wait."Feb 05 12:17
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/695611768991825920Feb 05 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: WordPress Infections Leading to TeslaCrypt Ransomware @schestowitz https://t.co/VeQv2T8fZnFeb 05 13:53
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MinceRhttp://archive.is/YqLdiFeb 05 13:53
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/695626955073458177Feb 05 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Amen to this article: "6 Benefits of Using Open Source Software in Government @philshapiro @charlie3 @schestowitz https://t.co/Nt5Qk67nQtFeb 05 13:56
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r_schestowitzMinceR: why archive link?Feb 05 13:57
r_schestowitzzoobab_: https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695589897999097856  https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695591094462058498Feb 05 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nipclaw: @schestowitz yes it will. The costs of litigation will be so much less than in this country. It will also be easier to obtain IP insurance.Feb 05 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nipclaw: @The_Code_Shirts @Moz @Start_up_Mentor see my response to @schestowitz. Fragmentation of Europe is an enormous barrier to innovation in EU.Feb 05 13:58
r_schestowitzzoobab_: waste of time talking to lawyers directlyFeb 05 13:58
r_schestowitznot the right audienceFeb 05 13:58
MinceRbecause i don't support moronix's clickbait/(free software)-hostile waysFeb 05 13:58
r_schestowitzI will write about UPC later, using some of your links which you selectedFeb 05 13:58
r_schestowitzMinceR: i cFeb 05 13:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ximoberna/status/695631564479266817Feb 05 13:59
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/695670022237245440Feb 05 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Coming home to find wolves in your home: "Crypto flaw so glaring it may be intentional backdoor" https://t.co/WP0ZQKGufH @schestowitzFeb 05 13:59
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MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160203/09004533506/proposed-hungarian-law-would-allow-government-to-suspend-key-human-rights-whenever-there-is-terror-threat-situation.shtmlFeb 05 14:12
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671445579998896128   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671446437327171585   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671446870443597825Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Been travelling all day and only just catching up with these very serious allegations levelled against us.Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Roy's claims relate to this article: https://t.co/TjjD6oxMfaFeb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.iam-media.com | Pilot project with Microsoft and other big filers will directly help SMEs, not hinder them, says EPO - Blog - Intellectual Asset Management (IAM) - Maximising IP Value for BusinessFeb 05 14:12
MinceRputin's apprentice learned so much!Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz The article is basxed on an interview with an EPO spokesman who responds to allegations that had been made by Roy.Feb 05 14:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447092506861568   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447342785159169   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447528261464064Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Because of the documents Roy produced we thought the allegations had legs, so approached the EPO to get a responseFeb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz As part of the article we linked to the documents that Roy had already published to support his case.Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We did not identify Roy as the source of those documents, neither did we identify who Roy had received them fromFeb 05 14:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447879865733120   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448037722583040   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448168706494469Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We do not know who he received them from. He is our source for them and has chosen to identify himself as such.Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Following publication of the story, at no stage did Roy contact us to protest we had compromised his source.Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Neither did Roy contact us to ask that we remove the links we had provided.Feb 05 14:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448430334623744   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448856668844032   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671449579976572928Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz So, we compromised no-one. We would never do that. We never have. Multiple sources would testify to that.Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We directly challenge Roy to name one source who has been compromised by IAM.Feb 05 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Furthermore, we had no advanced knowledge of any EPO plans to threaten him with legal action.Feb 05 14:12
MinceRthough to be fair, he also learned much from hungary's earlier muscovite dictatorsFeb 05 14:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671450050036371456   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671450499221180417   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671450733464670209   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671451262701977600 Feb 05 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz In fact, when we learned of the legal action we Tweeted that the EPO was unwise to have done it.Feb 05 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We have nothing against TechRights and support its right to cover issues in the way it sees fit.Feb 05 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We just do not see things in the way that TechRights does, even though we have often criticised EPO management.Feb 05 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz If Roy does not trust us, he is best ignoring us. We regret he feels he needs to question our integrity.Feb 05 14:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671451552645795841   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671452502185943040  https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671452502185943040Feb 05 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We think he should try to accept there are different ways to see the world, including the current EPO situation.Feb 05 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Hope this helps. We won't get into a back & forth, so you can either accept we are genuine or not. Joff WildFeb 05 14:13
MinceR>Restrictions on travel to and residence in certain areas of the country (including the possibility of forced relocation or evacuation, or restrictions on travel within the country) Feb 05 14:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/695532890399121408  Feb 05 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @ioerror @jerezim Let's bet the UK will ignore that one.Feb 05 14:15
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/695535069969195008Feb 05 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @yanisvaroufakis @DiEM_25 Council of Ministers should be scraped, the executive should not become the legislator, Montesquieu.Feb 05 14:15
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sebsebsebMinceR: schestowitz_log_ r_schestowitz` cubelog XFaCE nj3ma cubelog cubexyz Sosumi pingFeb 05 15:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Make a $40 Linux or Android PC with this tiny new Raspberry Pi 2 rival | PCWorldFeb 05 15:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MaruOS claims to turn your Android phone into a Linux desktop | Tux MachinesFeb 05 15:38
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cubexyzI just checked the changelog of slackware-currentFeb 05 15:49
cubexyzno mention at all of systemdFeb 05 15:49
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cubexyzso I think it's safe to say slackware 14.2 will not have systemdFeb 05 15:49
cubexyzand 32-bit will be supported, so far so goodFeb 05 15:50
MinceRi hope they won't force stutter^W"pulse"audio on users eitherFeb 05 15:52
cubexyzit supports ALSAFeb 05 15:53
cubexyzthere is some pulseaudio stuff but you should be able to avoid that without too much troubleFeb 05 15:54
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cubexyzI'll probably put slackware 14.2 on one machineFeb 05 15:54
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r_schestowitzMinceR: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160203/09004533506/proposed-hungarian-law-would-allow-government-to-suspend-key-human-rights-whenever-there-is-terror-threat-situation.shtmlFeb 05 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Proposed Hungarian Law Would Allow Government To Suspend Key Human Rights Whenever There Is A 'Terror Threat Situation' | TechdirtFeb 05 16:04
r_schestowitzdid you see it?Feb 05 16:04
MinceRyeahFeb 05 16:04
MinceRlinked it here tooFeb 05 16:04
XRevan86- Terror against humans rights? Fast, suspend human rights! Phew, now they are safe.Feb 05 16:05
r_schestowitzhttps://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur27/3359/2016/en/Feb 05 16:06
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r_schestowitzXRevan86: terror goals accomplishedFeb 05 16:07
MinceRhungarians don't care about human rightsFeb 05 16:11
XRevan86but human rights care about hungariansFeb 05 16:14
XRevan86That was cheesy but I couldn't resist :).Feb 05 16:14
MinceR:)Feb 05 16:15
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/695715928965832708Feb 05 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: or a corporate department https://t.co/BtkjCXEMzHFeb 05 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US traps in #london https://t.co/JUVYQbcYKp not sure which country I even live in anymore. #uk like a colony.Feb 05 16:17
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msb_"<MinceR> hungarians don't care about human rights"  All the Hungarians I know are evil rotten lying bastards.  Of course I only know one...Feb 05 17:01
MinceRyou'd like the others more, they tend to support your favorite living dictator and his faithful apprenticeFeb 05 17:02
MinceRand they tend to be as much against human rights as you areFeb 05 17:02
msb_syllogism:  1. "hungarians don't care about human rights" 2. MinceR is hungarian 3. Therefore, MinceR doesn't care about human rights.  That explains a lot.Feb 05 17:05
msb_And without any input from me.Feb 05 17:06
MinceRaccording to the hungarian government, i am not hungarianFeb 05 17:06
msb_In case anyone reading this doesn't know that MinceR is a lying piece of shit:  A. I do not favor any dictator  B. I am not against human rightsFeb 05 17:07
MinceRyeah, any regular reader can tell that msb_ keeps supporting dictators loudly while claiming he doesn't support themFeb 05 17:08
msb_Name one, you lying piece of shit.Feb 05 17:09
MinceRi've named plenty of them and you ignored them every time, you fascist piece of lying shit.Feb 05 17:09
msb_IOW, you can't.Feb 05 17:10
msb_And you don't know what "fascist" means.Feb 05 17:10
MinceRsomeone who supports fascism, like msb_ Feb 05 17:12
msb_That's tautological, shit-for-brains.Feb 05 17:12
MinceRit's not tautological, you brainless savage.Feb 05 17:12
MinceRperhaps they didn't teach you the difference between the letters 't' and 'm', you fascist shitpig?Feb 05 17:13
msb_Then what does "fascism" mean?Feb 05 17:19
MinceRextreme authoritarianism, usually with particular tropes and symbols includedFeb 05 17:19
msb_WrongFeb 05 17:24
MinceRright, fascists with hammer and sickle are "not fascist"Feb 05 17:24
MinceR"see, we're totally different from those guys!"Feb 05 17:24
msb_"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito MussoliniFeb 05 17:25
MinceRlike the merger of putler's power and the corporations owned by the oligarchs he controls?Feb 05 17:26
MinceRor like the merger of the state party's power and the power of the corporations owned by the state?Feb 05 17:26
msb_Corporations are not owned by the state.  They are owned by (groups of) wealthy individuals.Feb 05 17:27
MinceRin one the systems you idolized openly (which called itself "socialist", "communist" and other things), the corporations were indeed owned by the stateFeb 05 17:28
MinceRit's funny you're trying to deny that tooFeb 05 17:28
msb_First, you lying piece of shit, I don't idolize anything.Feb 05 17:29
MinceRfirst, you fascist lying piece of shit, claiming you don't idolize the things you rave about every day isn't fooling anybody.Feb 05 17:30
msb_I don't rave about anything, shit-pig.Feb 05 17:31
MinceRyou lie about almost everything, you fascist subhumanFeb 05 17:32
msb_"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito MussoliniFeb 05 17:33
msb_You have always equated fascism with authoritarianism.  And since you never learn anything, you probably always will.Feb 05 17:35
MinceRi see you only care about what your idol mussolini saysFeb 05 17:37
msb_ mussolini is not my idol, you lying sack of shit.Feb 05 17:38
MinceRalso, i've already explained the merger of state and corporate power, you write-only retarded fascist barbarian.Feb 05 17:40
msb_But you said above "corporations owned by the state", which is nonsense.Feb 05 17:42
MinceRtell that to your stalinist idolsFeb 05 17:43
MinceRthe ones that are still alive, anywayFeb 05 17:43
cubexyzin Canada we have Crown Corporations: the CBC, Canada Post and Via RailFeb 05 17:44
msb_Apparently you are unable to make an argument without attributing things to me that are utterly false.Feb 05 17:44
cubexyzI think Hungry has the MOL Group which is the same ideaFeb 05 17:44
cubexyzHungaryFeb 05 17:44
MinceRin hungary, the "socialists"/"communists"/etc. kept all corporations in state ownership for most of their reignFeb 05 17:44
MinceRthey loosened that policy somewhat near the end, probably because they started to realize that they destroyed the economy.Feb 05 17:45
cubexyzthe United States has Government-sponsored enterprises like Fannie MaeFeb 05 17:45
msb_"A corporation is a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.>Feb 05 17:45
msb_MinceR: If the USSR was fascist, why did fascist Hitler attack it?  Why was Hitler paid by wealthy Americans to attack it?Feb 05 17:47
MinceRmsb_: guess what, dictators are rarely controlled by ideologyFeb 05 17:47
MinceRhitler attacked the ussr because he wanted to take over its resources, iircFeb 05 17:47
XRevan86Hitler totally believes in his ideology.Feb 05 17:48
XRevan86believed*Feb 05 17:48
MinceRby your "logic" i could just as well attack if the ussr wasn't fascist, why was the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact signedFeb 05 17:48
MinceRs/attack/ask/Feb 05 17:48
msb_Why was Hitler paid by wealthy Americans to attack the USSR?Feb 05 17:49
MinceRbecause those wealthy americans believed in hitler's ideologyFeb 05 17:50
MinceRiirc henry ford and thomas j. watson were (at least initially) openly naziFeb 05 17:50
msb_What aspects of hitler's ideology did the wealthy americans believe in?Feb 05 17:51
MinceRthat may have depended on which wealthy american we're talking about, but i haven't read any in-depth treatment of this questionFeb 05 17:52
msb_IOW, you have no idea.Feb 05 17:53
MinceRgo fuck yourself.Feb 05 17:53
msb_go kill yourselfFeb 05 17:53
MinceRgo hang yourself, you fascist piece of shit.Feb 05 17:53
msb_wealthy americans paid Hitler to kill off socialists in Russia and Europe, because socialism was becoming popular, and the wealthy knew that if it caught on, their enormous profits would vanish, going instead to workers.Feb 05 17:55
MinceRwell, enormous profits did vanish, as the ussr destroyed its own economy and that of the eastern blocFeb 05 17:56
MinceRand the standards of living plummetedFeb 05 17:56
MinceRand that region still hasn't recoveredFeb 05 17:56
MinceRwell, at least some parts of it anywayFeb 05 17:57
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msb_In your robotic compulsion to attack socialism, you ignored the reason wealthy americans paid hitler to kill off socialists.Feb 05 17:59
MinceRin your braindead compulsion to support everything that calls itself "socialist" or "communist" or "people's democracy", you ignored the facts and fabricated a tale about an attack against "socialism"/etc.Feb 05 18:00
MinceReven though most people in power don't give two shits about ideology, what they care about is powerFeb 05 18:00
cubexyzsome socialism is good thoughFeb 05 18:02
cubexyze.g. health care programsFeb 05 18:03
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_NazisFeb 05 18:03
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cubexyzLinux is pretty much socialismFeb 05 18:04
cubexyzeveryone sharesFeb 05 18:04
msb_yepFeb 05 18:04
MinceRas discussed earlier, "socialism" is pretty much devoid of meaning alreadyFeb 05 18:05
MinceR"Thus, if we are to judge views by their resemblance to Russian Communism, it is the software owners who are the Communists." -- rms, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.en.htmlFeb 05 18:06
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MinceRsee also: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/luispo-rms-interview.en.htmlFeb 05 18:07
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cubexyzMicrosoft is a good example of capitalism going too farFeb 05 18:08
MinceR"Thanks to Mr. Gates, we now know that an open Internet with protocols anyone can implement is communism; it was set up by that famous communist agent, the US Department of Defense." -- rms, https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_StallmanFeb 05 18:08
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cubexyzMinceR, yes :)Feb 05 18:09
cubexyzthat's one of my favourite quotesFeb 05 18:09
MinceRi can't tell if it is, since "capitalism" is yet another essentially meaningless termFeb 05 18:09
MinceRin its pre-marx sense, everyone who owns capital is a "capitalist", including workers under anarcho-communismFeb 05 18:09
cubexyzright, it's a bit vagueFeb 05 18:09
msb_So MinceR, you wrongly equate fascism with authoritarianism, and you say that socialism is meaningless.  This guarantees that you will be unable to understand either.Feb 05 18:10
MinceRand marx's theory is a confused fever dream, so it's meaninglessFeb 05 18:10
cubexyzand some words do change meaning over timeFeb 05 18:10
MinceRmsb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_%28insult%29Feb 05 18:10
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msb_Socialism is an economic system in which workers receive, as wages, most of the value of the goods and services they produce.Feb 05 18:11
cubexyzcall it "control of the means of production" if you preferFeb 05 18:11
MinceRpeople often call market economy "capitalism", but microsoft is not an extreme of thatFeb 05 18:11
MinceRm$ has always tried to make the market as unfree as they couldFeb 05 18:11
cubexyzM$ tried to control everythingFeb 05 18:12
MinceRmsb_: except when you call stalinist systems "socialist"?Feb 05 18:12
msb_MinceR: the wiki section you just cited says that fascism does _not_ mean authoritarianism.Feb 05 18:12
MinceRmsb_: learn how to read and retry. we'll wait.Feb 05 18:12
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MinceRmsb_: also learn english, if you have not done so yet.Feb 05 18:13
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MinceRof course, your attempts to assign the same meaning to all words may have irreversibly damaged your language-processing abilities...Feb 05 18:13
msb_You always revert to personal attacks when you know you are wrong.Feb 05 18:13
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MinceRmsb_: i always let you start with the personal attacks, as i did today.Feb 05 18:14
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cubexyzMicrosoft seems Fascist to meFeb 05 18:14
cubexyzmaybe there's a better word for it, I don't knowFeb 05 18:14
cubexyz"One Microsoft Way"Feb 05 18:15
MinceRindeedFeb 05 18:15
MinceROne Platform, One Drive, One FuhrerFeb 05 18:15
MinceRor something like thatFeb 05 18:16
msb_Microsoft is not able to use physical (state) force to increase its corporate power.  Just large-scale lying and cheating.  Actual fascism includes the use of force.Feb 05 18:17
MinceRare you sure?Feb 05 18:17
cubexyzthere's Google DriveFeb 05 18:18
MinceRlast time i checked, they had the law enforcement powers of several sovereign states at their disposalFeb 05 18:18
cubexyzI don't really use it thoughFeb 05 18:18
MinceRcubexyz: yeah, but m$ called theirs "OneDrive" or something like thatFeb 05 18:18
cubexyzyesFeb 05 18:18
cubexyzpaying a subscription to Microsoft is really beyond the paleFeb 05 18:19
msb_But no one is forced to do it.Feb 05 18:19
MinceRno one who is immune to attacks by the usian police forces, for example, that is.Feb 05 18:20
MinceRor other local police forcesFeb 05 18:20
MinceRand if that's not enough, there's the military...Feb 05 18:20
cubexyzavoiding all microsoft technology is not easyFeb 05 18:21
MinceRand it's getting harderFeb 05 18:21
cubexyzwalk into any computer store and you'll see tons of win10 machinesFeb 05 18:21
MinceRthe usa and the eu have ceased to enforce any antitrust regulation against m$Feb 05 18:21
MinceRintel ganged up with m$ to force winblows on people foolish enough to buy uefi appliances (which are marketed as "computers")Feb 05 18:22
msb_Unless those machines reach into your pocket and pull out your money, you are not being forced.Feb 05 18:22
MinceRinterestingFeb 05 18:22
MinceRmsb_: how does taxation work?Feb 05 18:22
msb_Microsoft cannot levy taxes.Feb 05 18:23
MinceRand while we're on the topic, m$ managed to get the hungarian government to hand over gigantic amount of tax money for pretty much nothingFeb 05 18:23
MinceRi have no doubt that they've done this with other governments as wellFeb 05 18:23
cubexyzdidn't Ballmer get pelted with eggs in Hungary?Feb 05 18:23
MinceRmsb_: you should ask their OEMs about that.Feb 05 18:23
cubexyzI seem to remember thatFeb 05 18:23
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MinceRcubexyz: he did, for the above issueFeb 05 18:23
MinceRof course it didn't do muchFeb 05 18:24
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cubexyzthe M$ Tax is real, it's well documentedFeb 05 18:24
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cubexyzunless you build a white-box PC yourself, or buy a chromebook, or a used computerFeb 05 18:24
cubexyznot impossible to avoid, but difficultFeb 05 18:24
MinceRbuilding a mobile white-box PC is far from trivialFeb 05 18:24
MinceR(as in, i've never seen the parts necessary marketed to end-users)Feb 05 18:25
cubexyzpitop seems like one wayFeb 05 18:25
MinceRwhich is a relatively recent developmentFeb 05 18:25
MinceRand they don't have much of a distribution network, afaictFeb 05 18:25
MinceRand the pi still has no power management or suspend, afaikFeb 05 18:25
MinceRand of course tablets and phones are even worseFeb 05 18:25
cubexyzstill in pre-order it looks likeFeb 05 18:26
MinceRnaturally, that's where consumption is movingFeb 05 18:26
msb_Do mfrs of pcs with no os have to pay for a copy of windows?Feb 05 18:27
cubexyznoFeb 05 18:27
cubexyzthat changed a while agoFeb 05 18:27
msb_So, no ms tax.Feb 05 18:27
cubexyzI can't buy a no OS PC locallyFeb 05 18:28
MinceRso now they merely get to pay a far higher price on the devices that ship with winblowsFeb 05 18:28
cubexyzonline, yesFeb 05 18:28
MinceRwhich many customers are still locked intoFeb 05 18:28
MinceRvia applications and closed formatsFeb 05 18:28
msb_Can't you buy the parts and assemble it yourself?Feb 05 18:29
MinceRand of course the price hikes even if they do something lesser to displease their m$ overlords, such as failing to advertise m$ products prominently enough on their websiteFeb 05 18:29
MinceRmsb_: i can do that with a desktop pc, but not with more mobile computers, such as laptops.Feb 05 18:29
cubexyzthere's novena and pitopFeb 05 18:29
MinceRand indeed, all my desktop pcs were custom-built so farFeb 05 18:29
MinceRlast time i checked, novena and most of its components were already out of productionFeb 05 18:30
MinceRpitop is in preorderFeb 05 18:30
MinceRalso, you can't really use most novenas in your lap because there's no place for a keyboardFeb 05 18:30
cubexyzI see a lot of used laptops so I repurpose those and remove the windows stickersFeb 05 18:30
MinceRthere was a very limited number (maybe just one?) of the custom case with the traditional clamshell arrangementFeb 05 18:31
MinceRwhat will you do when you need an upgrade and all the used laptops are locked into winblows using uefi?Feb 05 18:31
cubexyzwell a lot of laptops overheatFeb 05 18:31
cubexyzthat's why I use older tech sometimesFeb 05 18:31
cubexyzeven the P3 can get quite warm in a laptopFeb 05 18:31
cubexyzbut chromebook was pretty good heat-wiseFeb 05 18:32
MinceRwhat if the state of the art advances so much that using sufficiently powerful cryptography is no longer feasible on those older models?Feb 05 18:32
cubexyzsome use falls into the "classic computing" category Feb 05 18:32
MinceRyeah, maybe i'll end up moving to chromebooks once they get more powerful than the last general-purpose x86 non-chromebook laptopsFeb 05 18:33
cubexyzbut a P3 can do web browsing and online banking no problemFeb 05 18:33
MinceRi wouldn't dream of doing web browsing on a p3Feb 05 18:33
MinceRweb browsing is one of the most intensive tasks nowadays, thanks to the "modern" webFeb 05 18:33
cubexyznoscript helps a lotFeb 05 18:33
MinceRif the site is willing to work without javascriptsFeb 05 18:33
MinceRs/ts/t/Feb 05 18:33
cubexyzyou have fine-grained control to enable _some_ javascriptFeb 05 18:34
MinceRsites that don't work at all without it are spreading (like google's blogger)Feb 05 18:34
MinceRand even the support for some javascript bloats the browser a lot and adds plenty of opportunities for security holesFeb 05 18:34
cubexyzok, I guess I'm an outlier on the web browsing thenFeb 05 18:34
cubexyzI've actually put a lot of effort into thisFeb 05 18:35
MinceRit's sad how IT has gone from relatively sane principles to "hey, we'll just download and run random code from whenever on the clients and it's fine because sandboxes are guaranteed to be free of bugs, right?"Feb 05 18:35
MinceRit's now "cool" to cover the page with a loading screen for no good reason or even to reimplement the whole browser in javascriptFeb 05 18:36
cubexyzthere's various tiers of internetFeb 05 18:36
msb_cubexyz: Can you buy a no-OS laptop by mail?Feb 05 18:36
cubexyzI probably canFeb 05 18:37
cubexyznothing comes to mind immediatelyFeb 05 18:37
MinceRlast time i could buy a no-os laptop it was only offered by dHell and turned out to be a piece of industrial waste with no warrantyFeb 05 18:37
cubexyznewegg.ca has somethingFeb 05 18:37
cubexyzmostly I acquire used stuff and get it working againFeb 05 18:38
cubexyzhere's one: refurb HP laptop probook 6460B intel core i5 with 4 GB of ramFeb 05 18:39
cubexyz$289Feb 05 18:39
MinceR"Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly. … if the users chooses this proprietary software package, he then falls into this monopoly for support … the only way to escape from monopoly is to escape fromFeb 05 18:39
cubexyz$9.99 for shippingFeb 05 18:39
MinceRproprietary software, and that is what the free software movement is all about. We want you to escape and our work is to help you escape. We hope you will escape to the free world. The free world is the new continent in cyberspace that we have built so we can live here in freedom. It's impossible to live in freedom in the oldFeb 05 18:39
MinceRworld of cyberspace, where every program has its feudal lord that bullies and mistreats the users. So, to live in freedom we have to build a new continent. Because this is a virtual continent, it has room for everyone, and there are no immigration restrictions. And because there were never indigenous peoples in cyberspace,Feb 05 18:40
MinceRthere is also no issue of taking away their land. So everyone is welcome in the free world, come to the free world, live with us in freedom. The free software movement aims for the liberation of cyberspace and everyone in it." -- https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_StallmanFeb 05 18:40
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cubexyzI want source code so I wrote this file:Feb 05 18:40
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/os-with-source-code.txtFeb 05 18:40
cubexyzanother one:Feb 05 18:42
cubexyzRefurb Dell M65 15.4" intel core duo $189Feb 05 18:42
cubexyzI could probably find one even cheaper than thatFeb 05 18:42
MinceRit's a dHell, so it's garbage hardware with no warrantyFeb 05 18:43
cubexyzrefurb chromebook: $179Feb 05 18:43
cubexyzone year replacement is offeredFeb 05 18:43
cubexyzof course I get free broken ones quite oftenFeb 05 18:44
MinceRreplacement with another instance of the same model with the same design flawsFeb 05 18:44
MinceRpossibly with the same hw issues already presentFeb 05 18:44
MinceRlike the "replacement" GPU in my dHell craptopFeb 05 18:44
cubexyzyes, but I fix computers a lot anyways :)Feb 05 18:44
MinceRoh, and most likely without any idea of when or if ever they'll have the replacement part you needFeb 05 18:44
MinceRdHell is a pretty good case study of how not to do computer manufacturing and supportFeb 05 18:45
cubexyzeverthing needs maintainance at some pointFeb 05 18:46
cubexyzI look at repairability... how difficult is it to get parts, how hard is it to take apartFeb 05 18:47
cubexyzis the RTC/battery glued in?Feb 05 18:48
cubexyzactually this is an old Dell running OpenBSD :)Feb 05 18:49
cubexyzall parts are original, except for the hard drive and memoryFeb 05 18:49
cubexyz2001 eraFeb 05 18:50
cubexyzmotherboards with tantalum capacitors and high quality power supplies + UPS will last a long timeFeb 05 18:57
cubexyzdon't recall if Dell used tantalum capsFeb 05 18:58
cubexyzI'm sure Dell did make some crappy computersFeb 05 19:00
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cubexyzmore and more web sites aren't workingFeb 05 19:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Decriminalization would be a welcome first step, but legalization should follow.Feb 05 20:20
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r_schestowitz"It is indeed I reckon."Feb 05 20:22
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XFaCEyo r_schestowitz Feb 05 20:42
XFaCEr_schestowitz: new Vista 10 nicknameFeb 05 20:42
XFaCE"NSA/Windows"Feb 05 20:42
cubexyzNSAdowsFeb 05 20:42
MinceR:)Feb 05 20:42
MinceRNSA userland on Windows kernel :>Feb 05 20:43
XFaCEAltenatively say NSA+WindowsFeb 05 20:43
cubexyzI'm not even the first person to say NSAdowsFeb 05 20:45
MinceRstasindowsFeb 05 20:48
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows10-evil-nsa.jpgFeb 05 20:48
MinceRinb4 the designated troll from the kremlin interjects that the stasi was so good and nice and totally not evilFeb 05 20:49
oiaohmMicrosoft and NSA was really proven 1999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEYFeb 05 20:51
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oiaohmThe fact that the NSAKEY in Windows has postmaster@nsa.gov kinda tells you.   Basic PGP the owner of key pair places their email address on it so they hold the secret.Feb 05 20:52
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/firefox-has-encountered-windows-problem.jpgFeb 05 20:53
cubexyzoiaohm, we have the source code for NT 4Feb 05 20:55
oiaohmcubexyz: those two keys decide if application when clicked on display a warning message or not.   So application signed with NSAKey or Microsoft primany key may not display any security risk message when it installs.Feb 05 20:57
oiaohmSo NSA has a front door into windowsFeb 05 20:57
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XFaCE[20:50:58]<oiaohm> Microsoft and NSA was really proven 1999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEYFeb 05 21:01
XFaCEyeah, but because we didn't have a leak saying outright that this is a backdoor, it was just "crazy talk"Feb 05 21:02
XFaCEeven now, with the leaks and the obvious fact that Windows is defective by design, still apathyFeb 05 21:02
MinceRand due to religious dogma and cognitive dissonance, it's still just "crazy talk"Feb 05 21:02
cubexyzpeople are rather lazyFeb 05 21:02
XFaCEoiaohm: When GM was revealed to make defective products out of negligence, they paid for itFeb 05 21:03
MinceRit seems most humans won't even attempt to think even if their life depended on itFeb 05 21:03
cubexyzwell, you can't copy an audio cdFeb 05 21:03
MinceRi guess GM's competition has pull at the m$ governmentFeb 05 21:03
MinceRm$'s competition doesn'tFeb 05 21:03
cubexyzthat's 100% proven, so you know there's DRM stuff in there at the very leastFeb 05 21:03
XFaCEyea, exactly MinceR Feb 05 21:04
XFaCEif Microsoft was held to the same standard as GM (which is still not that high), they would be fuckedFeb 05 21:04
oiaohmhttps://www.brianchristner.io/docker-is-moving-to-alpine-linux/  this might be hope for those who hate systemd.   http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux_Init_System its openrcFeb 05 21:05
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cubexyzI remember watching this one windows computer late one nightFeb 05 21:05
cubexyzit was running nothing... but the hard drive light was blinking a lotFeb 05 21:05
MinceRmaybe docker realized ratcrap is 1) their competition and 2) playing from m$'s bookFeb 05 21:05
MinceRso if they want to survive, they have to leave cancerd ASAPFeb 05 21:06
oiaohmMinceR: nspawn in systemd is a direct form of competitor to docker.Feb 05 21:06
MinceRexactlyFeb 05 21:07
cubexyzthe consumer is just a pawn, a serfFeb 05 21:07
oiaohmIssue with alphine is usage of musl libcFeb 05 21:08
cubexyzwhat is the problem with musl?Feb 05 21:09
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cubexyzhttp://www.etalabs.net/compare_libcs.htmlFeb 05 21:10
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oiaohmcubexyz: Lot of programs are tested with gnu libc and expect gnu libc behavour.Feb 05 21:10
MinceRyou can have multiple libc-s installedFeb 05 21:11
MinceRyou can link against glibc, even statically if you want toFeb 05 21:11
MinceRconsider bedrock linux :>Feb 05 21:11
MinceRbedrock itself links against musl, most strata (distros) link against glibcFeb 05 21:11
cubexyzin a few ways musl libc is betterFeb 05 21:12
MinceRindeedFeb 05 21:12
cubexyzsmallest static glibc program is 662k??Feb 05 21:15
oiaohmcubexyz: few ways musl is better is true but its little things that start ruining you day.  POSIX localedef being missing comes a problem.Feb 05 21:15
oiaohmglibc is truly not light it contains a lot of extras that you truly question if a libc should contain them.Feb 05 21:16
oiaohmglibc shares memory with other glibc in the system so when you do a PID look up and the like it does not have to go to kernel every single time.Feb 05 21:17
cubexyzwow, hello world is 579,371 bytes with -staticFeb 05 21:17
oiaohmYou have linked on a huge stack of lets share crap.Feb 05 21:18
cubexyzwe used static for some gamesFeb 05 21:18
cubexyznot that I would have tried musl for that, but maybe for other things I couldFeb 05 21:19
oiaohmFound out about the glibc sharing PID look up information when cgroup namespace with PID was first implemented here was the Linux kernel reporting correctly remapped PID but for some reason glibc inside and out side the cgoup was reporting confusing results.Feb 05 21:20
cubexyzok, musl-gcc hello world size: 9,121 bytesFeb 05 21:20
cubexyza huge differenceFeb 05 21:20
MinceRoiaohm: why is missing localedef a problem?Feb 05 21:21
MinceRit seems to be for custom locales onlyFeb 05 21:21
cubexyzI think musl still uses gcc, that's why there's musl-gccFeb 05 21:22
MinceReven if you can build musl-using programs with other compilers, most users would probably use gccFeb 05 21:22
cubexyzmusl-gcc is what I'm using to test atmFeb 05 21:23
cubexyzwhat do you know, I'm wrong about the game stuffFeb 05 21:25
cubexyzdynamically linkedFeb 05 21:25
cubexyzI'm even using the dynamically linked Heroes3Feb 05 21:25
oiaohmMinceR: you want to abuse of your translation engine for locale in test cases you need localedef.  Lot of complains about gconf not being conforming at times is that it support broken legacy modes some applications expect.Feb 05 21:26
MinceRicFeb 05 21:26
oiaohmMinceR: basically a QA thing is missing.Feb 05 21:27
MinceRperhaps i can get away with testing that aspect of my code with glibcFeb 05 21:27
oiaohmmusl is good for making a libc that follows standard.   glibc is good for being kitchen sink include ways to emulate how a lot of libc broke standard so able to run some old poorly written source.Feb 05 21:29
oiaohmglibc also includes some peformance hacks I call scary.   Like sharing caching of particular syscalls.Feb 05 21:30
oiaohmYes due to musl not having caching some applications can be many times slower on musl than glibc.Feb 05 21:30
cubexyzthat's a bit vague oiaohm Feb 05 21:43
cubexyza specific example would be usefulFeb 05 21:43
cubexyzI've heard musl being about "20% slower" Feb 05 21:45
cubexyzalpine uses musl for everything or..?Feb 05 21:48
cubexyzbuilding firefox would be a good testFeb 05 21:48
cubexyzalpine linux looks interesting...Feb 05 21:49
oiaohmcubexyz: http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/getpid_caching.html  Its stuff like this.Feb 05 21:49
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oiaohmYes it makes glibc fast in some cases but it also causes some insanity in other cases.Feb 05 21:50
cubexyzthat case seems more like a deficiencyFeb 05 21:51
oiaohmMost of them are.Feb 05 21:52
oiaohmcaching syscalls creates race conditions from hell.Feb 05 21:53
oiaohmOk might make your program run faster but at times you will pay a huge price.Feb 05 21:53
oiaohmcubexyz: note that as 2004 where Linus said cache getpid is bad.   http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5766184/why-are-many-system-calls-getpid-captured-only-once-using-strace   Here is 2011 and glibc is still doing it.Feb 05 21:56
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MinceRgreatFeb 05 21:56
cubexyzoiaohm, does AIX do a better job? does AIX use gcc?Feb 05 21:57
cubexyzhmmm, seems they use the XL C/C++ compilerFeb 05 22:03
cubexyzthey would have to be better to justify their prices Feb 05 22:03
MinceRlolFeb 05 22:05
MinceRlike that was ever justified by anyoneFeb 05 22:05
MinceRi faintly remember some horror story about how AIX does dynamic linkingFeb 05 22:05
MinceRstill can't be as bad as what winblows does instead of dynamic linkingFeb 05 22:06
cubexyzAIX just doesn't seem worth it, but there are differing opinions on the matterFeb 05 22:17
oiaohmcubexyz: http://seriousbirder.com/blogs/aix-shared-and-static-libraries-explained/  MinceR is right AIX dynamic linking is ugly.Feb 05 22:25
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oiaohmAIX .a could be a static or share library.Feb 05 22:26
cubexyzwell anything can be in an .aFeb 05 22:30
cubexyzit's just an archive fileFeb 05 22:30
cubexyzdoesn't have to be a library file at allFeb 05 22:30
MinceRor it could be anything renamed to have an .a name suffixFeb 05 22:32
MinceR:>Feb 05 22:32
cubexyzthat reminds me, ark let me down yesterdayFeb 05 22:34
cubexyzcouldn't handle rar filesFeb 05 22:34
MinceRwell, i'm not sure if there even is a fully free rar implementationFeb 05 22:34
MinceRor a fully free unrarFeb 05 22:34
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MinceRespecially if you need to handle the latest version of rarFeb 05 22:35
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cubexyzI'm using unrar 5.11 freeware editionFeb 05 22:35
MinceRfreeware, so nonfree :>Feb 05 22:36
cubexyzI build some version on openbsd so I do have source codeFeb 05 22:37
cubexyzhow is it nonfree?Feb 05 22:37
MinceRwell, i have yet to see free software called "freeware"Feb 05 22:38
cubexyzthe license is a bit confusingFeb 05 22:40
cubexyzhe UnRAR sources may be used in any software to handle RAR archives without limitations free of charge, but cannot be used to re-create the RAR compression algorithm, which is proprietary.Feb 05 22:41
MinceRso, a limitation on what you use it forFeb 05 22:41
MinceRtherefore nonfreeFeb 05 22:41
cubexyzso I'm not allowed to make ark handle rar files?Feb 05 22:42
MinceRat least you're not allowed to use the unrar sources to do thatFeb 05 22:43
MinceRthere might be other limitations independent of the unrar sourcesFeb 05 22:44
MinceRlike patentsFeb 05 22:44
cubexyzok, I was wrong about arkFeb 05 22:47
cubexyzit couldn't open rar files with a different extensionFeb 05 22:47
cubexyznot the most graceful of utilitiesFeb 05 22:48
cubexyzand I don't think I have the source for rar, just unrarFeb 05 22:58
cubexyzso you are right, it's not free softwareFeb 05 23:00
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/comparsion-of-various-file-compressors.txtFeb 05 23:01
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/comparison-of-various-file-compressors.txtFeb 05 23:02
cubexyzummm, yeah I don't think I'll make rar's :)Feb 05 23:03
MinceRyeah, i see no reason toFeb 05 23:03
cubexyzis zip free software?Feb 05 23:04
MinceR050154 <+whales> The milky way as seen from Mars: https://i.imgur.com/2DiC9.jpgFeb 05 23:04
MinceRthere's at least one free zip implementationFeb 05 23:04
cubexyzha, that's cuteFeb 05 23:04
MinceRthere are also free implementations of relatively recent compressors like lzmaFeb 05 23:05
cubexyzok, yes zip is in the public domainFeb 05 23:06
cubexyzlooks like ark actually looks for an rar executableFeb 05 23:15
MinceRis it configurable?Feb 05 23:16
cubexyzin this version you would have to recompile itFeb 05 23:17
cubexyzark seems to be mostly a GUI frontend for command line archiversFeb 05 23:18
MinceRindeedFeb 05 23:18
cubexyzI'll try ark-trinity, maybe that one is betterFeb 05 23:19
cubexyznopeFeb 05 23:21
cubexyzguess I have a new project :-/Feb 05 23:22
MinceRboth fileroller and mc can handle rar files even if only unrar is installed, rar isn'tFeb 05 23:22
MinceRof course they're readonly that wayFeb 05 23:22
cubexyzrightFeb 05 23:22
cubexyzI think ark is the sameFeb 05 23:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux and Free Software plays in South EastFeb 06 08:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical To Demo OnePlus & Sony DevicesFeb 06 09:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Canonical To Demo OnePlus & Sony Devices Running Ubuntu - OMG! Ubuntu!Feb 06 09:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | Intel Is Now Bringing The Observation Architecture To Their Linux Driver - PhoronixFeb 06 09:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Patches Published Again For Replacing LinuxFeb 06 09:43
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schestowitzEnderle idiocy http://www.datamation.com/commentary/computers-are-learning-to-tell-jokes.htmlFeb 06 10:36
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OneHi! I´m trying to send that speech report.Feb 06 14:22
OneTHE FARCE GOES ON  A report on Batistelli´s speech in The Hague on February 4  On February 3 the EPO was abuzz with rumors about the withdrawal/dismissal of B. Batistelli, the president who has been trying hard, and managed more and more successfully, to bring this European institution into disrepute. It would have been too beautiful. The spineless Administrative Council´s reaction has so far been, in the most fortunate cases, to aFeb 06 14:22
OneHowever, it seems that only a limited number of lines can be sentFeb 06 14:22
Oneto avoid taking blatantly illegal steps but no firm reaction to his tyrannical decisions.  Batistelli´s response to the AC´s first weak sign of dissent, the recommendation that BB start a dialogue with the staff representation, resultedFeb 06 14:26
Onein the dismissal of two members and the demotion of a third, which amounts to a spit in the faces of the European delegates. Feb 06 14:26
OneThe European press, in its most part preoccupied with more pressing matters and unlikely to shatter the establishment, had slowly started to report on BB´s attack on the examiners´ elected representatives so BB, like any dictator under the siege of external forces, thought a speech would be a great idea in order to bolster his ruleFeb 06 14:27
OneAssad does it, Mugabe still does it, Honecker and Ceausescu did it, so sometimes, but fortunately only sometimes, it works. Feb 06 14:27
OneFuelled by the EUR 800,000 injection into PR a presidential show was organized in The Hague in the old Soviet Union style on February 4. People were hoarded and screened, told to behave, and at 10 o´clock the show began. Feb 06 14:28
OneUplifting music accompanied the images of the EPO and after a short introduction by a continuously smiling moderator with French-accented English which mistook the event for the Eurovision contest the president took the pulpit.Feb 06 14:28
OnePages of positive statistics started rolling on the huge background screen while the president informed the audience that never had the EPO been more successful. Budget, social situation, unitary patent were all mentioned. Feb 06 14:28
OneIn particular the low fees achieved by the negotiating skills of the president against the will of several delegations were mentioned (one can ask why were´t the patent fees lowered but raised when the EPO enjoyed such a great year, but that would spoil the festive atmosphere).Feb 06 14:29
OneA small concession was surprisingly offered, a year of review and assessment - "digéstion", in the words of BB, which means that the process of reducing the EPO pensions will only start next year. Presented were also the "orientations for the future": financial perspectives, social review, occupational and safety assessment, review of investigation guidelines (whatever this may mean) and ... renewed social dialogue (probably after sFeb 06 14:30
OnePO in The Hague which are now only suspended).Feb 06 14:30
OneThe Q&A time was started by a brave but very discoursive examiner whose question, very polite but sufficiently clear in describing the bad atmosphere in the office and the distance between the management and the staff, related to the main present concern, the silencing of the staff.Feb 06 14:30
One“I´m a strong believer in social dialogue. My INPI colleagues will testify to this.” was Batistelli´s reply, engaging thereafter in a tirade against SUEPO which were supposed to have slighted him during the homeworking negotiations several years before. Feb 06 14:31
OneAnd then, suddenly, the mask fell. This man who manages to keep his composure most of the time, lost it. “It is not ILOAT that manages the office. It is childish, childish to write to judges in Geneva.”, he retorted, raising his voice menacingly.Feb 06 14:31
OneFor a moment we caught a glimpse of the real face of Batistelli, a man who takes any different opinion than his personally and is ready to destroy the lives of those who oppose him. In a now (in)famous interview he described SUEPO as “mafia” after which he started to eliminate his perceived enemies one by one (two fired and one downgraded). Feb 06 14:31
OneThen the screen presented a page entitled “Disciplinary cases” which started with the bullet point “Contrary to allegations, the EPO unequivocally supports freedom of expression and freedom of association. (underscore as in the original document), continuing with the following bullet points: Feb 06 14:31
One- Disciplinary cases are not launched because of criticisms expressed against the office. - Sanctions are applied following major breaches of our staff rules and regulations. The cases involved: - Active participation in a damaging defamation campaign against the Organisation, the EPO management and individual staff members (One can only ask oneself if the description of the SUEPO by Batistelli as “mafia” does not fall under â€Feb 06 14:32
OneDirect threats and coercion expressed against staff members and staff representatives; Undue financial and moral pressure against EPO employees Pressure brought against witnesses during investigations and repetitive disclosures of confidential matter.Feb 06 14:32
OneThen, in red color: “The office has a duty of care to protect all staff members.”  After the sanctions in Munich and the pending suspensions in The Hague sentences referring to “supporting freedom of expression” have an Orwellian doublespeak ring to them.Feb 06 14:32
OneThen, among soft questions like the proposal of a name to the new building in The Hague, Batistelli explained the role of financial incentives in the examiners´ careers. Here he would have a point if the examiners received instead of between 1,500 and 2,000 EUR yearly bonus (representing an average of 2% of their yearly salaries)Feb 06 14:33
Onesalaries) a bonus in the same order of magnitude as the president or the vice-president – seven- and six-figure sums are rumored but cannot be confirmed because Batistelli enjoys, very conveniently but totally against the principle of openness in a European organization, a secret contract). Feb 06 14:33
OneHe then embarked upon discussing parts of the health reform and argued that all has been done for the good of the people. “Il faut degonfler les rumeurs. There is no control at home! Ridiculous! The cutting of the lump sum for invalidity would only facilitate the return to work. All the decisions are medical. I´m pragmatic, ready to change ...”Feb 06 14:34
OneBatistelli then reiterated that there will be no major reform this year but after 2016 there will be discussions with the staff representation and the delegations (who “actually wish the pension reform” – with the tacit understanding that Batistelli will defend the staff rights in front of an aggressive AC!).Feb 06 14:34
OneQuestions about patent administration, classification and educational allowance for non-German or -Dutch staff were addressed and answered vaguely, with a bullet point interspersed: “Quality is our main priority. We are in competition with other offices. We may be the best but we are the most expensive one.” Feb 06 14:34
OneQuestions about patent administration, classification and educational allowance for non-German or -Dutch staff were addressed and answered vaguely, with a bullet point interspersed: “Quality is our main priority. We are in competition with other offices. We may be the best but we are the most expensive one.” Feb 06 14:34
OneOn the question regarding the fluctuating number of applications Batistelli gave this opinion conveyed also by VP Minnoye in his directors´ meetings, that “Backlog is a mistake. It is not a safety cushion. It is a big mistake. Backlogs are not a strength. It´s a weakness. We´re going to receive more and more applications.” It seems there are few people outside BB and his VP who are convinced of this … Feb 06 14:35
OneFinally, likening himself with général de Gaulle (?) Batistelli clarified the matter of his bodyguards. “Europe is not the same as before the Paris attacks. I am French, president of a big European organization. After the Paris attacks both the French and the German police recommended that I should take measures.” Feb 06 14:35
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One_Continuation of Batistelli report:Feb 06 14:40
One_Finally, likening himself with général de Gaulle (?) Batistelli clarified the matter of his bodyguards. “Europe is not the same as before the Paris attacks. I am French, president of a big European organization. After the Paris attacks both the French and the German police recommended that I should take measures.”Feb 06 14:40
One_The finale was less glorifying than the beginning but all in all it was a pretty good performance. Batistelli showed himself less motivating than Fidel, less pugnacious than Kim Il Sung, but definitely more engaging than Honecker or Zhivkov. Feb 06 14:40
One_Any dictator relies on a three-pillared system involving propaganda, fear and the loyalty of the repressive state apparatus. Batistelli is assured of the loyalty of his minions, there´s a certain degree of fear among the staff but his propaganda doesn´t fool anybody at the EPO. Feb 06 14:41
One_The Administrative Council must finally act and replace Batistelli with somebody it can trust!Feb 06 14:41
One_At present the EPO is run by a loose cannon.Feb 06 14:42
schestowitzthanksFeb 06 14:42
One_End of report.Feb 06 14:42
schestowitzI will write more tomorrowFeb 06 14:42
schestowitznew material tooFeb 06 14:42
One_Hopefully you can stitch it together.Feb 06 14:42
One_Thanks to you!Feb 06 14:43
schestowitzI willFeb 06 14:43
One_Is there any possibility to send all of it together?Feb 06 14:43
One_Could you allow more lines to be sent?Feb 06 14:43
schestowitzif the above is complete, I can stitch itFeb 06 14:43
schestowitzI don't trust unencrypted email without torFeb 06 14:43
One_of courseFeb 06 14:43
schestowitzare there more lines?Feb 06 14:43
One_noFeb 06 14:43
schestowitzok, so don't worryFeb 06 14:44
schestowitzone alternative is, Feb 06 14:44
One_it ended with the AC reference Feb 06 14:44
schestowitzusing something like bitbucketFeb 06 14:44
schestowitzor more secure/anonymous optionsFeb 06 14:44
schestowitzthen posting a link to the pasteFeb 06 14:44
schestowitzpastebinFeb 06 14:44
One_I´m not that knowledgeableFeb 06 14:44
schestowitzor whateverFeb 06 14:44
One_I think I can split messages like I did nowFeb 06 14:44
schestowitzI contacted Dordery todayFeb 06 14:44
schestowitzCorderyFeb 06 14:44
schestowitzWe'll see if he and other Frenchmen are still pursuing this at allFeb 06 14:45
One_it´s a bit more work but it´s a matter of a couple of minutesFeb 06 14:45
schestowitzAlso some Dutch politiciansFeb 06 14:45
One_I guess soFeb 06 14:45
One_but the question is whether the Ministers are going to do anything about itFeb 06 14:45
schestowitzsome pepple paste it in ipkatFeb 06 14:45
One_I´m not entirely negative on thisFeb 06 14:45
schestowitzwhere I syndicate all the commentsFeb 06 14:45
schestowitzbut google isn't good for privacyFeb 06 14:46
One_I knowFeb 06 14:46
One_but ipkat may also censor sometimesFeb 06 14:46
schestowitzMinisters can draw in attentionFeb 06 14:46
schestowitzand give the media something to write aboutFeb 06 14:46
schestowitzipkat does moderation nowFeb 06 14:46
One_I cannot believe he´s going to finish his termFeb 06 14:46
schestowitzsome comments take time to appearFeb 06 14:46
schestowitzit's not just about himFeb 06 14:46
One_and the romour about his leaving was spread even by one of the directorsFeb 06 14:46
One_rumourFeb 06 14:47
schestowitzhe probably though of itFeb 06 14:47
schestowitz*thoughtFeb 06 14:47
One_if Batistelli falls the whole bunch will fallFeb 06 14:47
schestowitznot necessarilyFeb 06 14:47
schestowitzit'll also be hard to rebuildFeb 06 14:47
schestowitzand no volition for UPCFeb 06 14:47
One_Minnoye, who´s regarded as a totally incompetent VP, is hated by the directors, tooFeb 06 14:47
schestowitzI have some more staff about TopicFeb 06 14:48
schestowitzI still have lots of unpublished thingsFeb 06 14:48
One_If you could read the Gazette you would see how many people are voting with their feetFeb 06 14:48
schestowitzbrain drain?Feb 06 14:48
One_a lot of staff reture before time and it´s not only examiners but also directors and a PDFeb 06 14:48
schestowitzall branches? Vienna and Berlin includeD?Feb 06 14:48
One_principal directorFeb 06 14:48
One_yesFeb 06 14:49
One_I recognised the names Feb 06 14:49
schestowitzlike the retired John who managed the IUFeb 06 14:49
schestowitzIs he formally retired yet?Feb 06 14:49
One_even the Brussels man has retired although he was relatively youngFeb 06 14:49
One_who?Feb 06 14:49
schestowitzthus the opening...Feb 06 14:49
schestowitzthe one who approved the keyloggersFeb 06 14:49
schestowitzJohn MartinFeb 06 14:49
One_I don´t know about him but I can askFeb 06 14:50
schestowitzthey'll find some frenchman from ENA to replace him ;-)Feb 06 14:50
One_I know the name onlyFeb 06 14:50
One_no doubt:)Feb 06 14:50
schestowitzOK, I can mention the staff exodusFeb 06 14:50
One_we started amploying people with Afghanistan experience now ... Feb 06 14:50
One_Nadja LefevreFeb 06 14:51
schestowitzseveralFeb 06 14:51
schestowitzyes, also externalFeb 06 14:51
schestowitzlike CRGFeb 06 14:51
schestowitzand their staff knows Nadja, allegedlyFeb 06 14:51
schestowitzKirsch or whateverFeb 06 14:51
One_there was also a UK guy with Afghanistan experienceFeb 06 14:51
schestowitzsome say he met her as a BBC person in AfghFeb 06 14:51
One_in his CV he wrote he spoke:Feb 06 14:51
One_Serbien, Croatian and BosnianFeb 06 14:52
schestowitzsome eastern European languagesFeb 06 14:52
One_which is rubbishFeb 06 14:52
schestowitzhe can speak with Topic and find 'topics' for discussionsFeb 06 14:52
One_there is no Bosnian languageFeb 06 14:52
schestowitzIIRC, Topic isn;'t native CroatianFeb 06 14:52
One_I can´t believe they employed smb like Topic, with his skeletons in the cupboardFeb 06 14:52
schestowitzbefore the balkanisation of the region he came from the area now known as those two long words I can never recallFeb 06 14:53
schestowitzthey have to keep him nowFeb 06 14:53
One_bosnia-herzegovina?Feb 06 14:53
schestowitzrepelling him would be admission of error and guilt by associationFeb 06 14:53
One_of courseFeb 06 14:53
schestowitzyes, that second oneFeb 06 14:53
schestowitzand that's where he studiedFeb 06 14:53
One_they´ll go down all togetherFeb 06 14:53
schestowitzone can hopeFeb 06 14:54
One_we just have to keep stoking the firesFeb 06 14:54
schestowitzmaybe Brimelow is still looking for a jobFeb 06 14:54
XRevan86One_: You're from there?Feb 06 14:54
One_BB cannot survive years of negative publicityFeb 06 14:54
schestowitzword on the street is, two alphamales pushed her outFeb 06 14:54
schestowitzthat Swiss guy and Benoit being prime suspectsFeb 06 14:54
schestowitzI forget the former's name, very Germanic nameFeb 06 14:54
One_I heard about thisFeb 06 14:54
schestowitzBacher somethingFeb 06 14:54
schestowitzLike Gorssbacher Feb 06 14:55
schestowitz*grossFeb 06 14:55
schestowitzhe's still in the nation PO in .chFeb 06 14:55
schestowitzI saw his name there, wouldn't contact him, I think he's loyal to the BB agendaFeb 06 14:55
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schestowitz “Europe is not the same as before the Paris attacks. I am French, president of a big European organization. After the Paris attacks both the French and the German police recommended that I should take measures.”Feb 06 14:56
schestowitzLOLFeb 06 14:56
schestowitzhe had bodyguards beforeFeb 06 14:56
schestowitzI need to write a response to that tomorrowFeb 06 14:57
OneSorry, connection cutFeb 06 14:57
OneYes, in FranceFeb 06 14:57
schestowitz..happensFeb 06 14:57
Onehe´s shamelessFeb 06 14:57
schestowitzBB in the WoTFeb 06 14:57
schestowitzI'm sure that's what ISIS is afterFeb 06 14:57
schestowitzsome spoiled ENA gradFeb 06 14:57
schestowitzin his 60sFeb 06 14:57
Onethere are too many rumours about him:Feb 06 14:58
schestowitzISIS go after the weak and helplessFeb 06 14:58
schestowitznever politiciansFeb 06 14:58
schestowitzunless of course he thinks Judge C is in ISISFeb 06 14:58
Onethat he will prolong here, that he will move to Paris as president of the UPCFeb 06 14:58
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schestowitzhe doesn't have sufficient experience/backgroundFeb 06 14:59
Onethe first thing the press should write is about the secret contractFeb 06 14:59
schestowitzit might be suitable for one of his buddiesFeb 06 14:59
Oneit appears that the AC is signing the budget without knowing his bonusFeb 06 14:59
schestowitzBergot knowsFeb 06 14:59
Oneand only Kongstad knows about itFeb 06 14:59
schestowitzand her husband is BB's protegeFeb 06 15:00
schestowitzOne can easily imagine how he'd exert pressure for payriseFeb 06 15:00
Onehe should be forced to publish his bonus (allegedly over 1 million - 1.4, 1.5)Feb 06 15:00
schestowitzbased on what?Feb 06 15:01
Oneit´s enough for the newspapers to continue writing each time that his contract is secretFeb 06 15:01
schestowitzBrimelow revealed her benefitsFeb 06 15:01
schestowitzcan he get thrice what she did?Feb 06 15:01
OneI guess soFeb 06 15:01
schestowitzoh, well, she's a -gasp -woman...Feb 06 15:01
schestowitzI heard Bergot gave him a 7% payrise, IIRCFeb 06 15:01
Oneshe was relatively honest, maybe even honestFeb 06 15:01
schestowitzsecret payrise on a secret salaryFeb 06 15:02
OneI don´t knowFeb 06 15:02
schestowitzbut he has a post on trasparency in his blogFeb 06 15:02
Onewhich blog?Feb 06 15:02
OneBB?Feb 06 15:02
schestowitzThe Hague sentences referring to “supporting freedom of expression” have an Orwellian doublespeak ring to them.Feb 06 15:02
schestowitzThey did this before, such statements...Feb 06 15:02
schestowitzBB's blog at epo.orgFeb 06 15:02
Oneof course, nothing surprisingFeb 06 15:02
schestowitz!google battostelli epo.org transparencyFeb 06 15:03
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - European Patent Office Blog | http://blog.epo.org/Feb 06 15:03
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ensuring Transparency - EPO Blog | http://blog.epo.org/the-epo/ensuring-transparency/Feb 06 15:03
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Transparency is Sunlight in the Kingdom of the EPO Vampires ... | http://techrights.org/2016/01/12/uploaded-images-with-commentary-and-rebuttal/Feb 06 15:03
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Battistelli's EPO Loses 'Customers' Because It Plays 'Favourites' With ... | http://techrights.org/2015/10/28/epo-playing-favourites/Feb 06 15:03
Oneone present always a shining faceFeb 06 15:03
schestowitzsee [2]Feb 06 15:03
Oneaha, I´ll read it laterFeb 06 15:03
schestowitzwell, manute with frangnance morelikeFeb 06 15:03
schestowitzI just need a flow of information to keep publishing about, some sources are now too busy because they're back to work after xmasFeb 06 15:04
OneShould I find out some more interesting stuff I´ll keep you postedFeb 06 15:04
schestowitzDoes anybody know why SUEPO changed the site's CMS for one evening?Feb 06 15:04
OnenoFeb 06 15:04
schestowitzprobably  a test runFeb 06 15:04
OneI guess soFeb 06 15:04
Oneno attackFeb 06 15:04
schestowitznot implied, ever...Feb 06 15:05
schestowitzbut it said c(Feb 06 15:05
Oneso funny, his trip to Latin AmericaFeb 06 15:05
OneCuba?Feb 06 15:05
schestowitz(c) 2016 at the bottomFeb 06 15:05
schestowitzSo I assume it's something in development, the old SUEPO site with Drupal was easier to followFeb 06 15:05
schestowitzalso with RSSFeb 06 15:05
OneWhat on earth can we get frok Cuba (or Cuba from us)?Feb 06 15:05
schestowitzI never heard of patents from thereFeb 06 15:06
schestowitz(I'm sure they have some)Feb 06 15:06
schestowitzpeople in Colombia would patent in the USPTO and other such placesFeb 06 15:06
schestowitzUS companies wouldn't patent much in ChinaFeb 06 15:06
schestowitzno point to itFeb 06 15:06
schestowitzI heard from a guy in Saudi last month about Saudi patentsFeb 06 15:06
schestowitzthe government supports these, but they're crapFeb 06 15:06
schestowitzutter rubbishFeb 06 15:07
Oneof course the US would be their first choiceFeb 06 15:07
OneCuba and Panama don´t count Feb 06 15:07
schestowitz!google scigen egnerate paperFeb 06 15:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - SCIgen - An Automatic CS Paper Generator | https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/archive/scigen/Feb 06 15:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - SCIgen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCIgenFeb 06 15:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Publishers withdraw more than 120 gibberish papers : Nature News ... | http://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763Feb 06 15:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Mathgen: Randomly generated math papers | http://thatsmathematics.com/mathgen/Feb 06 15:07
schestowitzI recjon some of these patent offices you could submit a random application to and it'd would get acceptedFeb 06 15:08
OneprobablyFeb 06 15:08
schestowitzExaminder: "oh, looks legit... figures, forumlas, where's my stamp..?"Feb 06 15:08
OneI have to go now but thanks for your great contribution. Few people are brave and idealistic nowadaysFeb 06 15:08
schestowitzI have done this for yearsFeb 06 15:09
schestowitzEPO isn't this scary, Topic isFeb 06 15:09
schestowitzhe has history...Feb 06 15:09
schestowitzGlyn wrote an article based on things I had sent him over timeFeb 06 15:10
schestowitzthere's more cmingFeb 06 15:10
schestowitz*coming (in British media)Feb 06 15:10
schestowitz" managed more and more successfully, to bring this European institution into disrepute. It would have been too beautiful. The spineless Administrative Council´s reaction has so far been, in the most fortunate cases, to a"Feb 06 15:12
schestowitzThere's something missing there, after the "to a" partFeb 06 15:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Las Políticas de #Microsoft Alienan Incluso aFeb 06 15:22
TweetTuxMachines                 los Hinchas Más Acérrimos de MS, IncluyendoFeb 06 15:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Pro-Microsoft Web Sites https://t.co/yaknjyT8REFeb 06 15:22
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Las Políticas de #Microsoft Alienan Incluso a los...'Feb 06 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Las Políticas de Microsoft Alienan Incluso a los Hinchas Más Acérrimos de Microsoft, Incluyendo Pro-Microsoft Web Sites | TechrightsFeb 06 15:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PatrickMoorhead/status/696065328741101569Feb 06 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PatrickMoorhead: @fcassia What you bringing in @schestowitz for moral support? Lol. Oh you are a troll. Got it.Feb 06 15:30
schestowitzCheapening of the term "troll"Feb 06 15:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696069301887856640Feb 06 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz "previously thought to be PX-Exclusive".. I really freaking by hate that. PC is not a synonym for Windows!Feb 06 15:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #gnu #linux as first-class citizen for computerFeb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 #games these days https://t.co/Kx37GiiCNRFeb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.develop-online.net)Feb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cDk3xV51mH (www.rpgamer.com)Feb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohlinFeb 06 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.develop-online.net | Welcome back, Commander. XCOM 2 out now on Mac and Linux | Games industry press releases | DevelopFeb 06 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rpgamer.com | RPGamer - News Bulletin - XCOM 2 Releases Simultaneously for PC, Mac, and LinuxFeb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What Systemd Developers Want To Change WithFeb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux User-Space In 2016Feb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1ZYgKDsPB1 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohlioFeb 06 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | What Systemd Developers Want To Change With Linux User-Space In 2016 - PhoronixFeb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "South Korea-based Hardkernel claims Odroid-C2Feb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 has more horsepower... and can be a desktopFeb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 replacement." https://t.co/Dz6QTs2sRfFeb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.computerworld.com)Feb 06 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Make a $40 Linux or Android PC with new Raspberry Pi 2 rival | ComputerworldFeb 06 15:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohliqFeb 06 15:53
cubexyzwhat does "PX-exclusive" mean?Feb 06 15:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/696075277072515072  https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/696075759807565824Feb 06 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @PatrickMoorhead no need for "support" just wanted 2see if he agreed w me bc I know he often does :-P Free minds,free thoughts @schestowitzFeb 06 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @PatrickMoorhead @schestowitz we are civilised people freely exchanging viewpoints, no need to take out the troll labeling machineFeb 06 16:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NVIDIA GeForce GT 710: Trying NVIDIA's NewestFeb 06 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Sub-$50 GPU On Linux https://t.co/7pmEk7AgL1Feb 06 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 06 16:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohloyFeb 06 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NVIDIA GeForce GT 710: Trying NVIDIA's Newest Sub-$50 GPU On Linux Review - PhoronixFeb 06 16:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The final results of the Linux GRID AutosportFeb 06 16:31
TweetTuxMachines                 tournament https://t.co/vx6K3sNUeKFeb 06 16:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 06 16:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohlozFeb 06 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The final results of the Linux GRID Autosport tournament | GamingOnLinuxFeb 06 16:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "even if millions of people pick up a SteamFeb 06 16:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Machine we won't currently see any changes inFeb 06 16:31
TweetTuxMachines                 the Steam Hardware Survey"Feb 06 16:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8t7zCmB2bN (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 06 16:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohlp0Feb 06 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Valve rep mentions they will eventually survey Big Picture & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 06 16:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FreeBSD 10.3 Now In BetaFeb 06 16:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/aDBJsDsTMK (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 16:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohls0Feb 06 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 10.3 Now In Beta | Tux MachinesFeb 06 16:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/V8M3lDrSgdFeb 06 16:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 16:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohls1Feb 06 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 06 16:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/zrebtDbfWqFeb 06 16:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 16:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohls4Feb 06 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 06 16:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/vlfig/status/696094140967350272Feb 06 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @ossia Only if it provided stronger guarantees of true free speech. (hint: who decides what's harassment?) @schestowitzFeb 06 17:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jogm16/status/696094977328177152Feb 06 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jogm16: @ossia @schestowitz count me in, I'll also help in testing the application.Feb 06 17:17
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7018944Feb 06 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Terrifying Ted and his Ultra-Conservative Vision for America http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/05/terrifying-ted-and-his-ultra-conservative-vision-america "to dictate to the rest of the world how they should live"Feb 06 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.commondreams.org | Terrifying Ted and his Ultra-Conservative Vision for America | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/ohlwi ]Feb 06 17:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/696095670579654657Feb 06 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @gnispen @schestowitz perhaps, one day, we’ll have a mushroom cloud as a selfie backdrop! Safer than looking straight at it, I reckon!Feb 06 17:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/696096899930185728Feb 06 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: "literally no meetings with NGOs who have actually taken the time to closely examine #TPP" - this is not good #ca https://t.co/rlZ9T1gs6KFeb 06 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Trade Minister...in January she seemed unaware of the ISDS." https://t.co/d8mXgZ6Stp #tpp #isds @zoobab @glynmoodyFeb 06 17:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma 5.5.4 and Calligra Suite 2.9.11 nowFeb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines                 available https://t.co/twt2THAVYPFeb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohlzqFeb 06 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.5.4 and Calligra Suite 2.9.11 now available | Tux MachinesFeb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Install Tor Browser Bundle 5.5.1 On LinuxFeb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/m88HGuQ7RO (linuxg.net)Feb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohlzrFeb 06 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Install Tor Browser Bundle 5.5.1 On Linux | LinuxG.netFeb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro ARM launched https://t.co/tPTpiMWfR5Feb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (manjaro.github.io)Feb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohlzsFeb 06 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro ARM launched – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityFeb 06 17:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Install Tor Browser Bundle 5.5.1 On LinuxFeb 06 18:12
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/m88HGuQ7RO (linuxg.net)Feb 06 18:12
TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    Feb 06 18:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohm3xFeb 06 18:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     12 ways to use your Android smartphone moreFeb 06 18:13
TweetTuxMachines                 efficiently  https://t.co/RA8ytGBcBDFeb 06 18:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dailyherald.com)Feb 06 18:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohm3yFeb 06 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailyherald.com | 12 ways to use your Android smartphone more efficientlyFeb 06 18:13
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cubexyzlol, I can't run vector linux 7.1 "light"Feb 06 18:39
cubexyzsays it requires PAE compatible CPUFeb 06 18:40
cubexyzoh wait a secFeb 06 18:41
cubexyzyes, I can, I must be thinking of something elseFeb 06 18:41
cubexyzbut I'll lose all the KDE 3.5.10 stuffFeb 06 18:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro ARM launched https://t.co/NJkYTWZstuFeb 06 18:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 18:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohm8hFeb 06 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro ARM launched | Tux MachinesFeb 06 18:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/CvlgFcLT6zFeb 06 18:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 18:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohm8iFeb 06 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux MachinesFeb 06 18:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware Live Edition – on its way to 1.0?Feb 06 18:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GfRBFJiBvT (alien.slackbook.org)Feb 06 18:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohm8jFeb 06 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Alien Pastures » Slackware Live Edition – on it’s way to 1.0?Feb 06 18:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LiVES 2.6 (Video Editor) Has Been ReleasedFeb 06 19:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fzmvw3vnif (linuxg.net)Feb 06 19:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | LiVES 2.6 (Video Editor) Has Been Released | LinuxG.netFeb 06 19:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Q4OS 1.4.7, Orion https://t.co/zieF4F0EL6Feb 06 19:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (q4os.org)Feb 06 19:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q4os.org | Q4OS - desktop operating systemFeb 06 19:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware Live Edition – on its way to 1.0?Feb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VbwA9xT0sG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohmfcFeb 06 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware Live Edition – on its way to 1.0? | Tux MachinesFeb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Q4OS 1.4.7, Orion https://t.co/kKE7x3GqK4Feb 06 19:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 19:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 1.4.7, Orion | Tux MachinesFeb 06 19:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat News https://t.co/GKN1JKZwa4Feb 06 19:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 19:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux MachinesFeb 06 19:43
schestowitzSpanish translations have made it into sites that show up in Google News, e.g.Feb 06 19:43
schestowitzhttp://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=208009Feb 06 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rebelion.org | Rebelion. Masivas protestas en la Oficina Europea de Patentes por despidos de personal crtico y representantes gremiales [ http://ur1.ca/ohmfj ]Feb 06 19:43
schestowitzAlso some blogsFeb 06 19:43
schestowitzhttp://observadorpatentesur.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/masivas-protestas-en-la-oficina-europea.htmlFeb 06 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-observadorpatentesur.blogspot.co.uk | Observatorio Sudamericano de Patentes : Masivas protestas en la Oficina Europea de Patentes por despidos de personal crítico y representantes gremiales [ http://ur1.ca/ohmfk ]Feb 06 19:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Chris767Roberts/status/696128302151561217Feb 06 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Chris767Roberts: @schestowitz Eyes all yesterday icicles hang from Jack's snow dusted face and that is exactly what happens when Twitter comes at me.Feb 06 19:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/696136130136117248Feb 06 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Po'folks here get sooo thirsty they go lickin' stamps...?Feb 06 20:02
MinceRhow is that supposed to work?Feb 06 20:03
schestowitzeating one's own salivaFeb 06 20:08
schestowitzhealthier than flint river waterFeb 06 20:08
MinceRthat takes water they've already consumedFeb 06 20:10
MinceRand wastes some of it as it will stay on the stampFeb 06 20:10
cubexyzyou're not supposed to analyze it MinceR :)Feb 06 20:10
cubexyzit's just an illogical expressionFeb 06 20:10
MinceR:)Feb 06 20:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7017804Feb 06 20:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Scooter Computer https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-scooter-computer/ guy from #microsoft now prefers #gnu #linux on the face of itFeb 06 20:13
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schestowitz"Likes GNU/Linux in an Intel cage for “security” and only for a utility box to support Windows things. He’s afraid of “Heartbleed” but seems just fine with Intel’s ME and UEFI. He thinks $350 is a cheap computer, when the thing is a “real” Intel. That’s probably the only thing Intel can sell people right now, but who wants to deal with all the pain and insecurity of UEFI and other Intel lockdown?"Feb 06 20:13
schestowitzMinceR: yes, a jokeFeb 06 20:13
MinceR"It's not a bird, it's not a plane, it must be Dave who's on the train"Feb 06 20:17
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schestowitz kded5 consolidates several small services in one process. These are mostly D-Bus services provided by KDED modules, but it also manages sycoca (a binaryFeb 06 20:21
schestowitz       cache of servicetypes, mimetypes and services used by KService) and KConfig update scripts as needed.Feb 06 20:21
schestowitzwhat a mess it isFeb 06 20:21
schestowitzwhen entering swap in particularFeb 06 20:21
schestowitzany way to restart it properly?Feb 06 20:21
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cubexyzI've decided to keep the old vector linuxFeb 06 20:36
cubexyzbut I'm upgrading another box I wasn't using to vector linux 7.1Feb 06 20:36
cubexyztoo much stuff on the (old) vector boxFeb 06 20:36
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cubexyzI've localized most functionality... one computer is the server, another is the IRC box, another is a development box and yet another is for web browsingFeb 06 20:40
cubexyzone nice thing about this approach... I can dive into different eras of linux and bsdFeb 06 20:40
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DaemonFCMinceR: https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12360121_540142766143420_3124045675863660772_n.jpg?oh=a12a5cd5389e232a16578115d2bcc33d&oe=576F34A0Feb 06 21:47
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Did you cover Apple error 53 yet?Feb 06 21:55
DaemonFCIntentionally bricking iPhones if you had yours serviced by someone other than them.Feb 06 21:55
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cubexyzthere's a google fork as well: BoringSSLJan 31 00:00
schestowitzah, yesJan 31 00:04
schestowitzhow's this coming along?Jan 31 00:05
schestowitzDidn't hear of itJan 31 00:05
cubexyzno idea reallyJan 31 00:05
schestowitzsince it was announced at leastJan 31 00:05
cubexyzjust learned about it Jan 31 00:05
schestowitzmaybe they use it internally, but must be FOSS anywayJan 31 00:05
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DaemonFChttps://www.imperialviolet.org/2015/10/17/boringssl.htmlJan 31 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imperialviolet.org | ImperialViolet - BoringSSLJan 31 00:35
oiaohmschestowitz: https://boringssl.googlesource.com/boringssl/ the home of it.Jan 31 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boringssl.googlesource.com | boringssl - Git at GoogleJan 31 00:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6998621Jan 31 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Perils of Privatization http://dianeravitch.net/2016/01/29/the-perils-of-privatization-2/ author exposed #billgates attacks (for profit) on public services http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueJan 31 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dianeravitch.net | The Perils of Privatization | Diane Ravitch's blog [ http://ur1.ca/ogppw ]Jan 31 01:18
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MinceRschestowitz: that openssh task sounds daunting, but maybe it's doableJan 31 02:31
MinceRschestowitz: depending on how they manage the code, it may be easy to see what pieces of code came from m$ via the version control system, thoughJan 31 02:32
MinceR(git blame or equivalent)Jan 31 02:32
cubexyzbut doesn't microsoft only work on the windows version?Jan 31 02:32
cubexyzopenssh for windowsJan 31 02:33
MinceRdunnoJan 31 02:47
MinceRi thought it was just a fork, but maybe it isn'tJan 31 02:47
cubexyzyeah actually there is microsoft stuff in libresslJan 31 03:19
MinceRwowJan 31 03:19
MinceRopenbsd still audits their own stuff, right?Jan 31 03:19
cubexyzas far as I know, yesJan 31 03:19
cubexyzbut we all know M$ gave openbsd moneyJan 31 03:20
cubexyzMicrosoft has added stuff to make libressl work with their stuff betterJan 31 03:21
cubexyzand you have to acknowledge Tim Hudson if you incude any windows specific code from the apps directoryJan 31 03:23
cubexyzyes, it's a bit worrisomeJan 31 03:23
MinceRindeedJan 31 03:25
cubexyzthe windows crypto API will be closed sourceJan 31 03:26
MinceRand yet openbsd wants to have something to do with it?Jan 31 03:27
cubexyzwell I assume when you build the linux or bsd version it doesn't have the windows crypto stuffJan 31 03:28
cubexyzhow could it?Jan 31 03:28
MinceRi thought they were all for free softwareJan 31 03:28
cubexyzwell I still think they are for free softwareJan 31 03:31
cubexyzopenbsd gets $$$ in return microsoft can submit code to libressl or whatever the deal isJan 31 03:32
MinceRso m$'s code is so shitty they have to pay to get it acceptedJan 31 03:33
MinceRand yet openbsd accepts itJan 31 03:33
cubexyzit's interesting that google has BoringSSL thoughJan 31 03:34
cubexyzcovering their buttsJan 31 03:34
cubexyzI suppose someone could fork libressl and strip out the microsoft stuff if they really wanted toJan 31 03:35
cubexyzI'm not a crypto guy so I'm not sure how good/bad this isJan 31 03:37
cubexyzI worked on Linux ports so it can go the other way tooJan 31 03:39
cubexyzwindows -> mac -> linuxJan 31 03:39
cubexyzso naturally there's a million #ifdef's in the codeJan 31 03:39
MinceRalso, i thought they wanted to keep the portability stuff out of their mainlineJan 31 03:40
cubexyzthere is stuff like "#ifdef _WIN32"Jan 31 03:43
cubexyzreferences to windows include filesJan 31 03:44
cubexyzdoesn't stop one from compiling for linux or bsd thoughJan 31 03:45
MinceRyeah, but i wish these suits who clearly don't care about making things that work would keep their filthy hands out of stuff i useJan 31 03:46
cubexyzI downloaded libressl-2.3.2.tar.gzJan 31 03:46
MinceRbut i guess they couldn't really kill IT if they didn't shit into free software projects, so this is what we getJan 31 03:46
cubexyzwell you could build openssl on number of different platformsJan 31 03:48
cubexyzthere's VMS, OS2, W32, W64, WCE, MacOS, probably other onesJan 31 03:49
cubexyzthere was openssl for embedix for zaurusJan 31 03:49
cubexyzI just looked at the docs for openssl for FC1Jan 31 03:50
cubexyzso you could have built openssl for windows at least that far backJan 31 03:51
MinceRyes, but afaik one of the first steps to libressl was to strip out all the compatibility codeJan 31 03:51
MinceR(which had all sorts of nasty surprises)Jan 31 03:51
cubexyzthey did strip out a lot of codeJan 31 03:52
cubexyzit's just cross-platform, I wouldn't panic yetJan 31 03:54
cubexyzsome windows folks write BSD codeJan 31 03:55
cubexyzthere's an overlapJan 31 03:55
cubexyzof course, I'll watch things closelyJan 31 03:55
cubexyzopenssl was maintained by volunteersJan 31 04:01
cubexyzat least openbsd has some bucks and they'll continue to functionJan 31 04:04
msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CqQ9_KY6XEJan 31 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Monster Hash - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogqco ]Jan 31 05:06
MinceRany relation to Johnny Dash's Monster Bash?Jan 31 05:07
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msb_Monster Bash (with Johnny Dash) is an old Apogee game.  Here's a video about it and other PCDOS games of the same era:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahFdNB2X7H8Jan 31 05:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Monster Bash Starrin' Johnny Dash - JonTron - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogqg6 ]Jan 31 05:46
msb_The song Monster Hash is based on the song Monster Mash by Bobby Pickett.Jan 31 05:49
msb_I have most of those Apogee games and they play great in a DOS emulator in Linux.Jan 31 06:03
msb_This all reminds me of a TV show I used to watch in Philadelphia, by John Zackerle:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_ZacherleJan 31 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | John Zacherle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogqhs ]Jan 31 06:05
msb_He was called Roland, kept his wife My Dear in a coffin and sometimes talked with her.  I think he had an assistant Igor.Jan 31 06:10
msb_He recorded a song Dinner with Drac:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfNb9viis_4   Not the same tune.Jan 31 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Dinner With Drac by John Zacherle 1958 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogqih ]Jan 31 06:11
msb_In the only episode I remember, he was showing a movie about brain transplants.  As usual, he interrupted the movie with bits of his own.  He had made two "amoebas", which were blocks of jello about 8x8x20 inches, with spaghetti inside and eye-stalks at one end.  He transplanted their brains by sticking his hand inside at the eye-stalk end, pulling out a fistfull of jello, and jamming it into the other amoeba.  It was hilarious!Jan 31 06:18
msb_Here's a compilation of kinescope snippets from Zacherle's Philadelphia and NYC shows:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiTkGiVNt_8Jan 31 06:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Zacherley Archives - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogqlx ]Jan 31 06:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Developer Experience hackfest: xdg-app +Jan 31 09:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Hurd Is Working On Sound Support, StillJan 31 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/679Cfl3kZ2Jan 31 11:03
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schestowitz[02:32] <MinceR> schestowitz: depending on how they manage the code, it may be easy to see what pieces of code came from m$ via the version control system, thoughJan 31 11:17
schestowitzOr maybe they paid the bsd people to code for themJan 31 11:17
schestowitzwhich is how I interpreted the announcement in the first placeJan 31 11:18
schestowitzlike MS adding to Linux via Novell/Greg K-HJan 31 11:18
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36072/Jan 31 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: What's up with Lynch: Facebook begins mass censorship in EuropeJan 31 11:20
schestowitz"This weekend Jim Lynch was on a tirade on how The Linux Foundation has saved Linux by taking action to keep Karen Sandler, who he calls a "social justice warrior," off the board, going on a rant about SJWs being poison to any project. Today he's upset because Facebook is adopting a policy against racist posts in Europe. Jeez. I used to like reading this guy, but not anymore. It appears as if he's lost his gig with ITWorld, as all of his Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzrecent, more inflammatory posts have been on his own blog."Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz> Today he's upset because Facebook is adopting a policy against racist posts in Europe.Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzWhen "racism" is defined as merely opposing unlimited immigration or truthfully reporting on the actions of recent immigrants, both of which seem to be the case, then there just might be a problem.Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzHe actually sums up the problem quite well in a single paragraph of his article:Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"Let me translate what the words “racist” and “xenophobic” mean in this context: any posts that disagree with the German government’s decision to allow its country to be invaded by young Muslim men from the Middle East. If you oppose that decision and you’re in Europe, be ready to have your Facebook posts removed at any time."Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzNow, you may think he's exaggerating or merely being polemic. Of course, lots of people feel that way about RMS too.Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"People who call others SJWs without their tongues in their cheeks are always exaggerating and paranoid. No exceptions. That said, a broken clock is right twice a day - facebook is bad for you, but facebook attempting to obey they law of a country in which it operates is not evidence of that."Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzLynch:Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzHi Christine (brideoflinux),Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzSorry you didn't like the posts on my blog. All I can about that is that you might want to skip reading them in the future. Not everything that I write is everybody's cup of tea and you will find everything from technology stuff to zombies (see the recent post about Z Nation...great show!) on my personal blog. Some folks enjoy reading those posts, while others don't. Don't feel bad if you prefer to skip my blog altogether, I won't take Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzoffense if you do. ;)Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzRegarding the post about Facebook, it's important to note that Facebook's policy seems squarely aimed at anybody who disagrees with Angela Merkel's policy about flooding Germany with young Muslim men from the Middle East despite the sexual assaults, rapes and other violence being directed against German women by them. I can't imagine any sane person would consider people expressing opposition to any of that and wanting Germany to close its Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzborders to more young Muslim men as being "racist" or "xenophobic." Sometimes the safety of the citizens of a country (particularly women) warrants immediate action, and I think that this is one of those cases.Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzAnd Facebook is not doing the German people any favor by censoring opposition to Merkel's policy. They are, as usual, putting their profits ahead of any concern about the welfare of their users (in this case German citizens). So I called them out on it in my post, and I make no bones about my dislike of that company. As I stated in my post, the best thing people can do is delete their Facebook accounts altogether (between the censorship, Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzprivacy violations, manipulation, etc. it's an awful service).Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzAnyway, thanks for the feedback. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. :) Jan 31 11:21
schestowitz"Jan 31 11:21
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msb_ISIL news:  ISIL just murdered 45 people in Damascus, Syria with explosives.  They are also clustered at Syria's largest dam and holding hostages there, to prevent being attacked by bombing, since the dam's destruction would cause immense flooding in Syria and Iraq, and cut off the electricity to a large portion of Syria.Jan 31 12:53
msb_https://www.rt.com/news/330083-tabqa-dam-crisis-isis/Jan 31 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | ISIS escapes Syria airstrikes by hiding at country’s largest dam, using hostages as human shield — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/ogrc8 ]Jan 31 12:55
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OneRemedies against International Organisations von Karel WellensJan 31 12:59
OnePage 214 and forwardJan 31 12:59
schestowitz> http://www.yes-www.org/why-use-www/Jan 31 13:00
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schestowitzDue to some odd issues with apache 3 years ago I never quite managed to remove the canonical forms issues. Techrights does not merge URLs correctly, still... I gave up after lots of attempts at the time.Jan 31 13:00
schestowitzShould I move to to https with letsencrypt? Having 3 different domain may make this a chore, and also renewing the certs every 3-6 months... I got the howtos for it saved... it's for centosJan 31 13:00
schestowitzOne: hiJan 31 13:00
schestowitzcontext?Jan 31 13:00
schestowitzsome book regarding intl' bodies such as EPO?Jan 31 13:01
OneYes, I´ll quote a bit right now, although the passage can be found by simply googlingJan 31 13:01
schestowitzthanks, if you can give the suitable framingJan 31 13:01
schestowitzI'll mention it in a future article (got one in the making right now, regarding the union group's letter to officials in NL)Jan 31 13:02
OneThe human rights imperative may lead to or even require a limitation or rejection by domestic courts of jurisdictional immunity claimed by international organisations, and the actual exercise of the courts´ adjudicatory system.Jan 31 13:03
OneActually the whole page below is very relevant but I cannot copy it.Jan 31 13:04
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One... the forum state will not only be entitled but will be obliged - in the case where the international organisation has not complied with its conventional obligation to provide adequate alternative setlement mechanisms - to deny jurisdictional immunity.Jan 31 13:06
Onepage 214Jan 31 13:06
OneEven more interesting page 215Jan 31 13:06
Onehuman rights violations by international organisations ... Jan 31 13:07
msb_It's in Amazon, but no description or reviews, not surprising at $95 price.Jan 31 13:07
OneI just googled human rights and immunity international organisationsJan 31 13:08
Oneit´s under books.googleJan 31 13:08
OneI´m sure you can get to read the pages cited by googleJan 31 13:09
OneIt´s a slap in the face of the Dutch justice that Minnoye openly said he would refuse to follow any Supreme Court decision. Jan 31 13:10
OneI´ll send you a story about Minnoye one of the following days. I just need to verify one detail.Jan 31 13:11
OneHe´s despised by everybody (and I mean not only examiners).Jan 31 13:12
OneAs far as I know he´s at his second prolongation of service, which should be illegal, since the provisions are that one can only prolong to 67 and he´s passed the mark. But I´ll check also this tomorrow.Jan 31 13:14
OneYou´re doing a great job! You and ipkat are our only outlets ... We´re very grateful for your help ... Jan 31 13:18
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MinceR121753 < schestowitz> Or maybe they paid the bsd people to code for themJan 31 14:44
MinceRthat doesn't sound so badJan 31 14:44
MinceRbut msb_, those games are violentJan 31 14:45
msb_I think feminists object to games portraying violence specifically against women.Jan 31 14:46
MinceRthose "feminists" object to whatever objecting to causes them to feel goodJan 31 14:53
MinceRalso, if there are no women in a violent video game, they whine about thatJan 31 14:53
MinceRand if they're there, they whine about what you saidJan 31 14:54
msb_They object if the game is specifically about men being violent toward women.  Note that your repeated use of the pejorative word "whine" indicates that you are prejudiced, not objective, about the people you're referring to.Jan 31 14:58
MinceRyeah, _i_ am prejudicedJan 31 15:01
MinceRwhy do i have to keep reminding you what crybullies are doing to free software?Jan 31 15:02
msb_This is nice:  Russian GDP went from $200billion/yr to $2Trillion/yr during Putin's leadership.Jan 31 15:03
msb_MinceR: You don't.  You were misrepresenting feminst attitudes toward video games.  You weren't talking about free software at all.Jan 31 15:04
MinceRhttp://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/why-russias-mafia-state-is-so-inefficient/459343.htmlJan 31 15:04
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MinceRmsb_: news flash: some video games are free softwareJan 31 15:04
MinceRmsb_: also, we were both talking about crybulliesJan 31 15:05
MinceRwhat crybullies do is relevant to a discussion about crybulliesJan 31 15:05
MinceRunlike putlerJan 31 15:05
msb_Now you're just confusing the discussion.  The connection between SJWs and free software has to do with their attacks on Linus Torvalds, not video games.Jan 31 15:06
MinceRyeah, _i_ am confusing the discussionJan 31 15:06
MinceRbecause crybullies trying to destroy one thing is not relevant at all to crybullies trying to destroy another thingJan 31 15:06
MinceRunlike putin, who's totally relevant to the discussionJan 31 15:06
MinceRright?Jan 31 15:06
schestowitzcrybulliesJan 31 15:07
schestowitzis that like the "I'm offended" crows?Jan 31 15:07
msb_Glad you admit it.  Please don't do it.  You are smart enough to carry on a rational discussion.Jan 31 15:07
MinceRyesJan 31 15:07
schestowitzOr the "safe spaces" crowd?Jan 31 15:07
MinceRalso known as SJWsJan 31 15:07
schestowitzthat's one form of itJan 31 15:07
MinceRmsb_: do some research on sarcasm.Jan 31 15:07
MinceRschestowitz: same thingJan 31 15:07
schestowitzRussian mafiosos are scaryJan 31 15:07
MinceRalso the "HURR VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES ARE TEH EVULZ"Jan 31 15:07
schestowitzI wouldn't write an outspoken blog in RussiaJan 31 15:07
msb_I mentioned Putin because I just heard the GDP increase figures on TV.Jan 31 15:07
MinceRcrowdJan 31 15:07
MinceRand the "DURRRR FREE SOFTWARE IS EVIL" crowdJan 31 15:08
schestowitzmsb_ with his nutty (at times) take on his gov. wouldn't say the same about Putin's gang if he lives in MoscowJan 31 15:08
MinceR"you must adopt our CoC or suffer our wrath!"Jan 31 15:08
MinceRyeahJan 31 15:08
MinceRor if he lived in the eastern blocJan 31 15:08
schestowitzthe very fact that msb_ can say all this and be safe is a testament of free speech in the US, which is better than in the UKJan 31 15:08
MinceRit's easy to cheer for putler from the usaJan 31 15:08
msb_US govt is scary, murdering millions of people to get "regime change" and, along with saudi and turkey, supporting ISIL.Jan 31 15:09
schestowitzit doesn't support ISILJan 31 15:09
schestowitzit supports some who doJan 31 15:09
schestowitzlike Saudi nutters and othersJan 31 15:09
MinceRat least they're doing their best to protect you from your beloved russian governmentJan 31 15:09
schestowitzbblJan 31 15:09
MinceRof course they can't block nuclear winter so you'll starve to death anyway after putler fires off all his nukesJan 31 15:10
msb_Yes it does.  It arms and finances what it calls Syrian moderates, which are actually jihadists who go over to ISIL or run away and leave their weapons for ISIL.Jan 31 15:10
MinceRputler allegedly supports alawitesJan 31 15:11
MinceRlike those are betterJan 31 15:11
MinceRputler also supports his christian cultJan 31 15:11
MinceRwhich is little betterJan 31 15:11
MinceRbut don't let facts get in the way of your north korea-esque propagandaJan 31 15:11
msb_MinceR: Your analysis is as warped as that of NK, not mine.Jan 31 15:12
msb_And note that you are constantly engaging in personal attacks against me.Jan 31 15:13
msb_MinceR: claiming that I am like North Korea is major shit-piggery.Jan 31 15:13
MinceRmsb_: their propaganda is based on the usa being the root of evil, exactly like yoursJan 31 15:13
MinceRmsb_: also, you're confusing yourself with me againJan 31 15:14
MinceRmsb_: you're the one engaging in personal attacksJan 31 15:14
XRevan86What a good day to read #techrights.Jan 31 15:14
msb_If two people say one thing alike that doesn't mean that everything about them is alike.  To claim that is a logical absurdity.Jan 31 15:14
MinceRXRevan86: msb_ is too repetitive to be good to readJan 31 15:15
MinceRit's the same old illogical bullshit every timeJan 31 15:15
msb_MinceR: How have I engaged in personal attacks against you here?Jan 31 15:15
MinceRnorth korea also practices msb_'s favorite form of government ("state socialism")Jan 31 15:15
MinceR161327 < msb_> MinceR: claiming that I am like North Korea is major shit-piggery.Jan 31 15:16
*XRevan86 wants to comment this: GDP would get higher than in 90s under any at least a bit sane government.Jan 31 15:17
msb_MinceR: Now you are out and out lying.  I have said that my favorite form of govt is socialism with worker-owned businesses, like Mondragon.  I have said that many times in response to your lies, but you keep telling the same lies.Jan 31 15:17
MinceRmsb_: you are the one who keeps saying contradictory things about what you believeJan 31 15:18
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msb_Give examples by quoting what I've said.Jan 31 15:18
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MinceRmsb_: like one moment "socialism" is the utopia that assumes humans are good, and the next moment stalinism is "socialism"Jan 31 15:18
MinceRmsb_: but yeah, it must be my fault that you keep flopping between belief elements that contradict each otherJan 31 15:18
msb_I've never said that socialism assumes humans are good, and I have said that stalin practiced authoritarian state socialism, which was bad.Jan 31 15:19
MinceRyeah, you're apparently not even aware of the issues with marx's nutcase theoriesJan 31 15:20
MinceRyou also said that 1) "socialism" is desirable and 2) stalin practiced "socialism"Jan 31 15:20
XRevan86> like one moment "socialism" is the utopia that assumes humans are goodJan 31 15:20
XRevan86Clearly you meant "communism" which is not socialism in any way. (that is still debatable)Jan 31 15:20
MinceRXRevan86: clearly "socialists"/"communists"/"m$n live search"/"bing" don't know what they want or what they want to call themselvesJan 31 15:21
MinceRthey switch labels like m$Jan 31 15:21
msb_The main thing is that people should share and help one another instead of exploiting and competing with one another.Jan 31 15:21
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MinceRXRevan86: the hungarian party of muscovite fascists reorganized itself under 3 different names to try and pretend they're not selling the same ideologyJan 31 15:21
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MinceRi wonder when will people learn that renaming something doesn't make it totally new or goodJan 31 15:21
MinceRprobably not until the point they exterminate themselvesJan 31 15:22
XRevan86MinceR: It's also not ideology.Jan 31 15:22
MinceRXRevan86: yeah, and the next moment it will beJan 31 15:22
msb_I have  posted here the basis of my beliefs, which is The Chalice and the Blade, and its characterization of societies as Partnership or Dominator.Jan 31 15:22
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, people like to twist definitions.Jan 31 15:22
MinceRjust as stalinism is not "socialism"/"communism"/etc. one moment, but it's "socialism"/"communism"/etc. the nextJan 31 15:22
MinceRmsb_: so, what prevents you from recognizing that putler is doing the typical dominator bullshit?Jan 31 15:23
msb_And that Domination in societies is a form of psychopathic behavior.Jan 31 15:23
MinceRso lenin, stalin, putin, etc. are psychopathsJan 31 15:23
MinceRso what?Jan 31 15:23
MinceRalso, i wonder what psychologists think about their future when people can establish complete diagnosis over irc with a minimal amount of factsJan 31 15:24
XRevan86MinceR: Socialism is basically a govenmental/economical system under which socium/communities controls distributions of goods.Jan 31 15:24
MinceRXRevan86: blah blah blahJan 31 15:24
XRevan86and productionJan 31 15:25
msb_and fair distribution of profitsJan 31 15:25
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XRevan86that's not a good definition either thoughJan 31 15:25
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MinceRXRevan86: is an oppressive totalitarian government allowed to call itself "the people"/"community"/"socium" (whatever that is) or not?Jan 31 15:26
XRevan86MinceR: Obviously not.Jan 31 15:26
msb_I think there are many different varieties of socialism, some of which work much better than others.Jan 31 15:26
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XRevan86some even call modern varieties of capitalism "socialism"Jan 31 15:27
MinceRmsb_: but you support all of them regardlessJan 31 15:27
MinceRXRevan86: "democratic socialism"/"social democracy"?Jan 31 15:27
XRevan86MinceR: yesJan 31 15:27
MinceRi think at this point the "communist"/"socialist"/etc. labels don't mean anything at allJan 31 15:28
MinceRthey're applied to everything and its oppositeJan 31 15:28
MinceRto mean either "i approve of this establishment" or "i don't approve of this establishment"Jan 31 15:28
XRevan86MinceR: Substitution of concepts is out there, yes.Jan 31 15:30
XRevan86MinceR: But you're not quite rightJan 31 15:30
XRevan86> I think at this point political labels don't mean anything at allJan 31 15:31
XRevan86MinceR: You didn't generalise properly.Jan 31 15:31
MinceR:>Jan 31 15:31
MinceRyeah, that tooJan 31 15:31
msb_Mondragon, Cuba under Castro, and Nicaragua under (elected Daniel Ortega) are doing well.  Stalin and other USSR leaders were far too authoritarian, however, they were working under the pressure of threats of attack by the Nazis, US, and other capitalist nations, and had to industrialize and manufacture weapons very rapidly.Jan 31 15:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/693815833642946560Jan 31 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: cc: @martenmickos https://t.co/cKHwnxGiKeJan 31 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: No word about/from #eucalyptus since #hp took over. Maybe they just hired all the staff and made it look like $/takeover (typical modus).Jan 31 15:32
msb_that should read    (elected) Daniel OrtegaJan 31 15:32
XRevan86Even conception of democracy is broken these days.Jan 31 15:32
MinceRmany "conservative"s want dramatic changes in the establishment; many "liberal"s are crybullies and are vehemently opposing freedom of speech; many "libertarians" are actually "conservative"s; "socialists"/"communists"/etc. were discussed aboveJan 31 15:33
MinceRi don't know what i left outJan 31 15:33
MinceRmsb_: so authoritarianism is a-ok so long as you can justify it with an external threatJan 31 15:33
XRevan86MinceR: Respesentative democracy.Jan 31 15:33
XRevan86Representative*Jan 31 15:34
MinceRmsb_: news flash: pretty much any authoritarian system does exactly thatJan 31 15:34
MinceRusually the threat is made upJan 31 15:34
msb_MinceR: when you said that I support all varieties of socialism, you are telling the same lie about me that I corrected you on many times before.Jan 31 15:34
MinceRXRevan86: does that still have supporters?Jan 31 15:34
MinceRand of course democracy collapses under the majority being evil idiotsJan 31 15:34
XRevan86MinceR: That's the only kind of governmental control that is common today.Jan 31 15:34
MinceRmsb_: and yet you _again_ implied the ussr was socialistJan 31 15:35
XRevan86practically the only one recognised by the massesJan 31 15:35
MinceRmsb_: you don't even leave a delay between claiming something and its opposite anymore, do you?Jan 31 15:35
MinceRXRevan86: and yet it's usually control by megacorporate corruptors insteadJan 31 15:35
MinceRoh, right, forgot "anarchism"Jan 31 15:35
XRevan86MinceR: See? People don't even know what democracy is.Jan 31 15:36
MinceRmost "anarchist"s are either "communists"/"socialists"/etc., don't recognize that humans are currently incapable of responsible self-governance, or bothJan 31 15:36
msb_In the case of the USSR, the Nazis  did invade and murdered IIRC some 25 million Russians.  And the Nazis had been 75% financed by ultra-wealthy Americans.  So that threat was definitely _not_ made up.Jan 31 15:36
MinceRmsb_: stalin's people murdered more people than the nazis did, iircJan 31 15:36
MinceRmsb_: and mao's people outdid stalins'Jan 31 15:36
MinceRmsb_: but yes, let's focus on which flavor of totalitarian dictatorship we prefer, since we've already settled on wanting totalitarian dictatorship.Jan 31 15:37
msb_MinceR: I said that Stalin used authoritarian state socialism which was a very bad system.  You keep misrepresenting what I've said, and lying about me based on your misrepresentations.Jan 31 15:38
MinceRmsb_: yes, yes, one moment you say it's a very bad system, the next you support itJan 31 15:39
MinceRmsb_: you don't need to repeat it anymore for everyone to notice the patternJan 31 15:39
msb_MinceR: stop lying about me.  I don't favor any totalitarian dictatorship.Jan 31 15:39
MinceRmsb_: yeah, you claim not to while doing soJan 31 15:39
MinceRmsb_: just as you claim you disagree with crybullies attacking Linus, Linux and other free software projects while supporting crybullies violentlyJan 31 15:40
MinceRthis "tactic" wasn't exactly new even in 1949Jan 31 15:40
msb_MinceR: you are lying about me again.  I don't even use the word "crybullies".Jan 31 15:41
MinceRyeah, you call them SJWsJan 31 15:41
MinceRand as we've already seen, labels make all the differenceJan 31 15:41
MinceRso much that nothing else matters anymoreJan 31 15:41
MinceRnot even what the labels were supposed to meanJan 31 15:41
*XRevan86 startpaged SJWJan 31 15:42
XRevan86so that's how those are calledJan 31 15:42
MinceRagain, just like the russian empire: they were doing pretty much the same as nazi germany, which they despised, but it's ok, because they used different symbolsJan 31 15:42
msb_MinceR: As long as you keep distorting and misrepresenting what I say, it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion with you.Jan 31 15:42
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Linux Mint 18 Will Get Its Own Set...'Jan 31 15:43
MinceRmsb_: as long as you keep saying things along with their opposite and pretend it's logical, it's impossible to avoid the accusation of "distorting" and "misrepresenting" what you sayJan 31 15:43
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MinceRmsb_: and it's impossible to have a meaningful conversation with youJan 31 15:43
MinceRmsb_: nothing you say has any meaning anymoreJan 31 15:43
*oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Jan 31 15:43
MinceRthis is your newspeakJan 31 15:44
MinceRWar is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.Jan 31 15:44
XRevan86MinceR: Russian Empire didn't have the chance to despise nazis.Jan 31 15:44
MinceRXRevan86: i meant the russian empire that called itself "socialist"Jan 31 15:45
MinceRoh, and "soviet"Jan 31 15:45
MinceRbecause people were councils back thenJan 31 15:45
MinceRor maybe pieces of adviceJan 31 15:45
schestowitzmsb_: MinceR: we always end up talking about Cold War here...Jan 31 15:45
MinceRwhich is now aligned with a christian cultJan 31 15:46
MinceRhttp://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2015/06/putins-crusade-is-russia-the-last-defender-of-the-christian-faith-2491190.htmlJan 31 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beforeitsnews.com | Putin’s Crusade – Is Russia the Last Defender of the Christian Faith? | Religion [ http://ur1.ca/ogrr0 ]Jan 31 15:46
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_%28council%29Jan 31 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Soviet (council) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrr1 ]Jan 31 15:46
schestowitz!google bush trust putin wear a crossJan 31 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bush explains his comment about Putin's soul, says Russian leader ... | http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/14/bush-explains-his-comment-about-putins-soul-says-russian-leader-changed/Jan 31 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Christopher Hitchens on George W. Bush and the 'stupidest thing ... | http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100059061/christopher-hitchens-on-george-w-bush-and-the-stupidest-thing-any-president-has-ever-said/Jan 31 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The Seduction of George W. Bush | Foreign Policy | http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/11/06/the-seduction-of-george-w-bush/Jan 31 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - I looked the man (Putin) in the eye and saw … the enemy | | Dallas ... | http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2010/06/i-looked-the-ma.html/Jan 31 15:46
MinceRschestowitz: msb_ advocates authoritarianism like he's being paid to do itJan 31 15:46
schestowitzhe's disenchanted and feels disenfranchised with US capitalismJan 31 15:47
XRevan86> http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/14/bush-explains-his-comment-about-putins-soul-says-russian-leader-changedJan 31 15:47
XRevan86Wow, that's incredibly dull.Jan 31 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dailycaller.com | Bush explains his comment about Putin’s soul, says Russian leader ‘changed’ | The Daily Caller [ http://ur1.ca/ogrr7 ]Jan 31 15:47
schestowitzBut that doesn't mean USSR was any easier on peopleJan 31 15:47
XRevan86> any easierJan 31 15:47
XRevan86schestowitz: As you said "any", yes, USSR was in ways easier on people :).Jan 31 15:48
schestowitzsome people vote for radical right because of national issuesJan 31 15:48
MinceR"but i prefer to be tortured on the rack, not in the iron maiden!"Jan 31 15:48
schestowitzwhich have them assume that xenophobia and greater state powers are the solutionJan 31 15:48
MinceR"but this turd has sprinkles on it!"Jan 31 15:48
schestowitzXRevan86: many left when it came down burningJan 31 15:49
schestowitzI don't know of people escaping from US/UK/NATO to RussiaJan 31 15:49
schestowitzCouldn't name a single oneJan 31 15:49
schestowitzand it's not because of Russian immigration law or language barriersJan 31 15:49
MinceRalso, for some reason it were the "commies" who built the iron curtain and the berlin wallJan 31 15:50
MinceRsomehow only their people wanted to escape to the other sideJan 31 15:50
schestowitz'their'Jan 31 15:50
MinceRand somehow only they wanted to prevent thisJan 31 15:50
MinceRwell, in their case, we can say "their slaves"Jan 31 15:50
XRevan86I wonder where Depardieu lives now.Jan 31 15:50
MinceR:>Jan 31 15:50
schestowitzCraig Paul Roberts and that guy who founded Global Research like the Russian propagandaJan 31 15:51
schestowitzbut neither lives in RussiaJan 31 15:51
schestowitzbased on blogspot localisation it seems like one is in MexicoJan 31 15:51
schestowitzthe other probably still in CanadaJan 31 15:51
MinceRit's easier and safer to advertise russia from far awayJan 31 15:51
MinceRso that you don't have to actually endure what you preachJan 31 15:52
MinceRmsb_ knows this very wellJan 31 15:52
schestowitzit's easy to support russian propaganda without facing the severe consequences of living in RussiaJan 31 15:52
XRevan86schestowitz: Well, that would be hard explain...Jan 31 15:52
XRevan86to explain*Jan 31 15:52
schestowitzbecause it seems alluring when you see some of the crap that's going on in the West, not in Hollywood (cinema)Jan 31 15:52
MinceRuntil you see some of the crap that's going on in russia and in the eastern blocJan 31 15:52
MinceRand in NK, and red china, etc.Jan 31 15:52
XRevan86But since you switched from USSR to Russia, it would be even harderJan 31 15:52
schestowitzsame thing almost...Jan 31 15:53
schestowitzlike England, UKJan 31 15:53
MinceRapparently labels are everythingJan 31 15:53
schestowitzplus the time dimensionJan 31 15:53
schestowitzputin is a USSR personJan 31 15:53
MinceRwell, england is just a part of the ukJan 31 15:53
schestowitzand his confidants and oligarchs (USSR raiders) tooJan 31 15:53
MinceRand england stopped being a state on its own long ago, afaikJan 31 15:53
XRevan86schestowitz: Not from my perspective.Jan 31 15:53
msb_XRevan86: Are you happy living in Russia?Jan 31 15:54
schestowitzlegacy of the previous incarnation, before "Union" became "federation"Jan 31 15:54
MinceRmsb_: are you happy living outside russia?Jan 31 15:54
XRevan86msb_: I don't have perspective on that.Jan 31 15:54
schestowitzI had friends from RussiaJan 31 15:55
schestowitzthey had left itJan 31 15:55
XRevan86Basically I'm not happy, but I'm not happy because of many things.Jan 31 15:55
schestowitzand they didn't have much good to sayJan 31 15:55
schestowitzCold, no jobs, oppressiveJan 31 15:55
msb_MinceR: yes, but scared of US govt.Jan 31 15:55
schestowitzrightly soJan 31 15:55
schestowitzlike RussiaJan 31 15:55
schestowitzeveryone should be afraid from the USJan 31 15:56
schestowitzit's that whom you're afraid of that controls youJan 31 15:56
schestowitz(or afraid of criticising)Jan 31 15:56
MinceRnot sure if there's a benefit to being afraidJan 31 15:56
schestowitzmost people don't bother saying anything about the US, so they're not afraid. They "play safe'Jan 31 15:56
MinceRbut recognizing that we're under threat from the us, from the russian empire and from other religious fundamentalist states, yesJan 31 15:56
msb_Obviously I do criticize the USG, and I am afraid of it.  It lied about 911 and has murdered millions of people since.Jan 31 15:57
schestowitzMinceR: not just religious statesJan 31 15:58
schestowitzChina and NK aren't motivated or tied together by religionJan 31 15:58
XRevan86I have grandparents in UK. Some years ago it was considered to (re)visit them but... prices in UK are somewhere in clouds.Jan 31 15:58
schestowitzit's nationalism, like it was in Germany.... religion just wraps it up a bitJan 31 15:58
schestowitzthe 'identity" angleJan 31 15:58
schestowitzchinito eyes would be more like that in ChinaJan 31 15:58
schestowitzhelps identify the "others"Jan 31 15:59
*XRevan86 gived away some personal info to the public, oh well.Jan 31 15:59
schestowitze.g. Muslims, uighurs Jan 31 15:59
msb_There is no danger of attack by Russia against the West.  Russia has been very well-behaved during this century.Jan 31 15:59
MinceRafaik they worship their dictators as gods in NKJan 31 15:59
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UyghursJan 31 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Uyghurs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJan 31 15:59
MinceRred china is nominally communist/etc. which is about as nutty as christianityJan 31 16:00
XRevan86I'd say there is no danger of attack by Russia against the West because it's suicidal for Russia.Jan 31 16:00
MinceRi doubt they care anymoreJan 31 16:01
MinceRthey fervently believe that the afterlife is more important than this life (christianity)Jan 31 16:01
XRevan86MinceR: Everybody wants to live.Jan 31 16:01
MinceRno, not everybodyJan 31 16:01
MinceRdevout abrahamics especially notJan 31 16:01
msb_Mutual Assured Destruction.  But Russia has not shown any interest in attacking anyone in this century, unlike the US.Jan 31 16:01
MinceRreligion breaks Mutual Assured DestructionJan 31 16:01
MinceRalso, putler is desperateJan 31 16:01
XRevan86MinceR: No, christianity in Russia is not fundementalistial.Jan 31 16:02
XRevan86it tries to be, but nahJan 31 16:02
schestowitzRussia did...Jan 31 16:02
schestowitzincluding after the Bolsheviks' revolutionJan 31 16:02
XRevan86fundamentalisticalJan 31 16:02
MinceRXRevan86: actually, putler is in cahoots with at least one cult, which is afaik by definition fundamentalismJan 31 16:02
schestowitzwhich put central Europe in a panicJan 31 16:02
XRevan86MinceR: Russian government wants opium to be available for people.Jan 31 16:03
MinceRso?Jan 31 16:03
XRevan86No, not that. Russian government wants people to get opium.Jan 31 16:03
MinceRso?Jan 31 16:03
schestowitzpeople who want it get it anywayJan 31 16:03
schestowitze.g. from US-occupied afghanistanJan 31 16:03
MinceRkiddie-fuckers regularly give wine to people at massJan 31 16:04
schestowitzit's just a question or price and riskJan 31 16:04
MinceRreligion and drugs go hand in handJan 31 16:04
schestowitzand risk (of arrest) drives up the priceJan 31 16:04
XRevan86MinceR: It doesn't mean anybody actually gives a damn about G-d in government.Jan 31 16:04
schestowitz!google opium production under us occupaitonJan 31 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Opium production in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_AfghanistanJan 31 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. ... | http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053Jan 31 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Afghan Opium Production Increases 35-Fold Since U.S. Invasion ... | http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/10/afghan-opium-production-increases-35-fold-since-u-s-invasion/Jan 31 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Real Afghanistan Surge is in Heroin Production and Tripled ... | http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/the-real-afghanistan-surge-is-in-heroin-production-and-tripled-opium-cultivation-since-the-us-military-arrived-un-and-us-government-documents.htmlJan 31 16:04
MinceRXRevan86: yeah, i guess some of them believe _they_ are "G-d"Jan 31 16:04
MinceRlike putin's faithful apprentice, viktor orbanJan 31 16:04
schestowitzWho's gid?Jan 31 16:04
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Jan 31 16:04
schestowitzgroup id?Jan 31 16:04
MinceRit's probably meant to be "God" which just means yahwehJan 31 16:05
schestowitzJehojahJan 31 16:05
XRevan86schestowitz: It's a jewish way of writing "god". For some reason it feels like mocking for me.Jan 31 16:05
schestowitzI'm going to hell from reading literally a work :-)Jan 31 16:05
MinceRanother horrible role modelJan 31 16:05
schestowitz*forJan 31 16:05
schestowitzXRevan86: there's the belief that uttering the name is not allowedJan 31 16:06
schestowitzeven if it's written right there literallyJan 31 16:06
XRevan86schestowitz: I know.Jan 31 16:06
schestowitzsuperstition taken to nutty levelsJan 31 16:06
MinceRi thought that appled to yahweh or whatever it wasJan 31 16:06
MinceRi guess some people are really committed to making the taboo cycle spinJan 31 16:06
schestowitzlike fear is masturbatingJan 31 16:06
MinceRsoon "G-d" will be a taboo tooJan 31 16:07
MinceRi wonder what comes nextJan 31 16:07
MinceR"G--"? "--d"? "---"?Jan 31 16:07
schestowitzwhich is something 99% of people will inevitably do anyway, it's just means for controlling people through guilt and fearJan 31 16:07
XRevan86$DEITYNAMEJan 31 16:07
schestowitzLike "original sin"Jan 31 16:07
schestowitzMaking people guilty since birthJan 31 16:07
schestowitzor conceptionJan 31 16:07
msb_XRevan86: How is the Russian economy?  Can people get work?  Can they get enough food?  A place to live?  Medical care?Jan 31 16:07
MinceRyeah, another thing allegedly typical of dictatorships: you can't avoid violating the law while you liveJan 31 16:07
schestowitzmsb_: depends where, from what I understand...Jan 31 16:08
MinceRso if they want to lock you up or execute you, they always have an excuseJan 31 16:08
schestowitzSome places have become run-down old era buildings with poor infrastructure and much opium addictionJan 31 16:08
MinceRmsb_: read up on what russians did when the price of oil dropped a littleJan 31 16:08
schestowitzso if you don't die from the cold in these places, like those in Ukraine famine, you're kind of well off... that's aside from the Big Cities, which cost a lot more to live inJan 31 16:09
XRevan86msb_: In Leningrad / St. Petersburg?Jan 31 16:09
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2012_Russia_Products_Export_Treemap.pngJan 31 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:2012 Russia Products Export Treemap.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrsx ]Jan 31 16:09
MinceRthis is not what a healthy economy looks like.Jan 31 16:09
schestowitzXRevan86: those are good citiesJan 31 16:09
XRevan86schestowitz: Cities?Jan 31 16:09
schestowitzlike saying Cardiff or Edinburgh hereJan 31 16:09
schestowitzLondon being like MoscowJan 31 16:09
schestowitzYou cannot judge UK lifestyle based on LondonJan 31 16:10
schestowitzwhich is like a country within a countryJan 31 16:10
schestowitzlook at Lutin, Blackburd, Leeds...Jan 31 16:10
schestowitz*LutonJan 31 16:10
msb_XRevan86: any place you can tell us about.Jan 31 16:10
schestowitzLOL, must have though of PutinJan 31 16:10
schestowitzLutin Airport...Jan 31 16:10
schestowitzI know quite well an old lady (~50) who studied engineering in Russia and became just an ordinary cookJan 31 16:11
XRevan86msb_: Okay, so I'll say what I think about where I live in.Jan 31 16:11
XRevan86I live in a Urban-type settlement on the edge of St. Petersburg.Jan 31 16:12
msb_Aren't Leningrad and St. Petersburg two names for the same city?Jan 31 16:12
schestowitzBeijing and HK are quite nice in China, but only the super-rich and their slaves can live thereJan 31 16:12
XRevan86msb_: They totally are.Jan 31 16:12
MinceRputin airportJan 31 16:12
schestowitz!google luton airportJan 31 16:12
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The official website for London Luton Airport | http://www.london-luton.co.uk/Jan 31 16:12
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - How to get to and from London Luton Airport | http://www.london-luton.co.uk/en/airport/Jan 31 16:12
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Live Flight Information from London Luton Airport | http://www.london-luton.co.uk/en/flights/Jan 31 16:12
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Luton Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luton_AirportJan 31 16:12
schestowitzTim of techbytes was from LutonJan 31 16:13
MinceR"quite nice" if you don't mind not having any rightsJan 31 16:13
MinceRoh, and you don't need to breatheJan 31 16:13
MinceRwhich is a bit of a challenge at least in beijingJan 31 16:13
schestowitz[16:13] <MinceR> "quite nice" if you don't mind not having any rightsJan 31 16:14
schestowitzHK has rightsJan 31 16:14
schestowitzfor now at leastJan 31 16:14
MinceRso why did the people protest recently?Jan 31 16:14
XRevan86And it would be a nice place to live (Ust'-Izzhora nearby, one can just walk there and enjoy) if only it wouldn't be the road connection to the St. Petersburg itself.Jan 31 16:14
XRevan86Izhora*Jan 31 16:15
XRevan86In peak hours one can ride from it to the nearest subway for like an hour.Jan 31 16:16
XRevan86drive* %)Jan 31 16:16
schestowitz[16:14] <MinceR> so why did the people protest recently?Jan 31 16:17
schestowitzbecause they still couldJan 31 16:17
MinceRahJan 31 16:17
schestowitz!google protest china student rightsJan 31 16:17
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989Jan 31 16:17
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Student activism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_activismJan 31 16:17
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Academics and Students in Hong Kong Protest Against Interference ... | http://time.com/4062330/hong-kong-university-protest-johannes-chan/Jan 31 16:17
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Chinese Student Protesting Books' Stance on Homosexuality Meets ... | http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/world/asia/china-lgbt-rights-education-trial.htmlJan 31 16:17
MinceRso if people protest it means everything's all rightJan 31 16:17
MinceRthat's why people don't protest in hungaristanJan 31 16:17
schestowitzin China it's hard to even organise protestsJan 31 16:17
XRevan86and that's 5 kmJan 31 16:17
schestowitzMinceR: a country with protest isn't the bestJan 31 16:18
msb_RT has been covering protests by some Russians who can't pay their dollar-denominated mortgages anymore because the rouble has declined with respect to the dollar.Jan 31 16:18
schestowitzbest is one where people see no need to potestJan 31 16:18
schestowitzworse is where people see the need to protest but are to afraid toJan 31 16:18
schestowitzdefeatismJan 31 16:18
schestowitzthat's PRCJan 31 16:18
XRevan86Rouble is twice as cheap as it was two years ago.Jan 31 16:19
msb_So some people getting paid in roubles can no longer afford to make mortgage payments in dollars.Jan 31 16:20
schestowitzXRevan86: "cheap" is a euphemismJan 31 16:20
msb_At least they are not afraid to protest, in big crowds.Jan 31 16:20
schestowitzyou mean devalued, or worth lessJan 31 16:20
XRevan86schestowitz: yesJan 31 16:20
schestowitzit's only good for export economyJan 31 16:20
schestowitzand Putin does a good job attracting sanctions against thatJan 31 16:21
schestowitzso imports harm RussiansJan 31 16:21
schestowitzRussia doesn't make that much stuff, it imports like China, which trades in its Yuan or maybe DollarsJan 31 16:21
msb_Putin didn't do anything to "attract sanctions".Jan 31 16:21
schestowitzahJan 31 16:21
schestowitzXRevan86: I suggest you swap with msb_Jan 31 16:22
schestowitzget a nice place in New Jersey IIRCJan 31 16:22
schestowitzmsb_ will have just a few months more to liveJan 31 16:22
msb_The US set up a Nazi government in Ukraine, and Putin had to protect the people in Crimea.Jan 31 16:22
MinceRst. putin didn't do anythingJan 31 16:22
MinceRagain the tired old putin propagandaJan 31 16:22
MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqmboHoCcAAgE8z.jpgJan 31 16:22
schestowitzPutin protected Crimea like Israel protects GazaJan 31 16:22
XRevan86> ethnic RussiansJan 31 16:23
XRevan86That is just dull.Jan 31 16:23
schestowitzMinceR: stay classyJan 31 16:23
MinceRapparently msb_ prefers to live under the jurisdiction of a government he believes to be "nazi" as opposed to one he doesn't believe to be "nazi"Jan 31 16:23
MinceRwhat does this tell us about msb_?Jan 31 16:23
schestowitzMinceR: EPO threatened to sue me, they said, to "protect" EPO staffJan 31 16:23
schestowitzand "their families" or something like thatJan 31 16:23
MinceRschestowitz: i guess i'll just have to hide and leave the country thenJan 31 16:23
schestowitzand they "respect freedom of the press," they told the media... after threatening to sueJan 31 16:24
MinceRwhich i'll probably have to do anywayJan 31 16:24
msb_A million ethnic Russians fled from Crimea to Russia before it was annexed.Jan 31 16:24
XRevan86Ethnically speaking Ukrainians are more Russian than a lot of Russians. Not that that is bad, just that's it.Jan 31 16:24
MinceRbecause of putler's apprenticeJan 31 16:24
XRevan86for some reasons people keep forgetting thatJan 31 16:24
MinceRhttp://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/nataliia-protasova-referendum-at-gunpoint-339628.htmlJan 31 16:24
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schestowitzmsb_: your pro-Russia slant is being ridiculed by a Russian, tooJan 31 16:24
schestowitzI find that funnyJan 31 16:24
MinceRschestowitz: obviously that means that everybody in the world is crazy, except msb_ Jan 31 16:25
schestowitzmsb_: are you an ethnic American?Jan 31 16:25
msb_I am medically unwell and have a lot of stuff.  Moving would be very difficult for me.Jan 31 16:25
schestowitz(serious question)Jan 31 16:25
XRevan86I'm not managing to keep up with the chat, BTW.Jan 31 16:25
msb_I was born here.Jan 31 16:25
schestowitzmsb_: are you an ethnic American?Jan 31 16:26
MinceRmsb_: why did your ancestors move to the usa?Jan 31 16:26
schestowitzand where fromJan 31 16:26
msb_schestowitz: I don't know what that means.Jan 31 16:26
schestowitzProbably something like east EuropeJan 31 16:26
schestowitzmsb_: are you an ethnic American?Jan 31 16:27
msb_I think my grandparents came to the US from Ukraine in the 1920s.Jan 31 16:27
XRevan86I wanted to comment about healthcare and forgot.Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzmsb_: why?Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzbefore the famine?Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzStalin "punishing" ukraine?Jan 31 16:27
msb_schestowitz: I don't know.Jan 31 16:27
XRevan86msb_: In order to answer about healthcare in Russia I'd have to ask how is it in US.Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzand before Hitler rose to power and started the war?Jan 31 16:27
MinceRi'm sure it was actually Yeltsin with his time machine :>Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzmaybe if the US didn't welcome them they'd have starved in UkraineJan 31 16:28
MinceRisn't that right, msb_?Jan 31 16:28
schestowitzor be sent to camps in Poland, or be killed in PogromsJan 31 16:28
schestowitzImagine their own views on Russia at the timeJan 31 16:28
XRevan861920 is the time of the Civil WarJan 31 16:28
msb_XRevan86: Most Americans have healthcare of some kind, but we have to pay for the large  profits of medical insurance corporations.Jan 31 16:28
schestowitzthe US welcomed your ancestors, it seems...Jan 31 16:28
schestowitzrescued them from Russia and Germany (both sides)Jan 31 16:29
XRevan86Whites vs. RedsJan 31 16:29
schestowitzin US?Jan 31 16:29
schestowitzThat was well beforehandJan 31 16:29
schestowitz!google year knee massacreJan 31 16:29
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schestowitz1890 and that was around the end of all these conflictsJan 31 16:30
XRevan86msb_: I didn't pay for insurance.Jan 31 16:30
msb_It was a decade or two later that ultra-wealthy Americans started supporting Hitler's war buildup.Jan 31 16:30
schestowitzThe invaders basically 'pacified' (defeated) the indigenous populationJan 31 16:30
schestowitzThey did this in the Philippines about 15 years larerJan 31 16:30
schestowitzkills the resistors, whom they called "niggers"Jan 31 16:30
XRevan86msb_: Remember I was talking with you about health issues?Jan 31 16:30
schestowitzkills->killedJan 31 16:31
msb_yes.  How are you doing with that?Jan 31 16:31
schestowitz(And tortures, with waterboarding)Jan 31 16:31
XRevan86msb_: Seems better.Jan 31 16:31
MinceRsounds like somebody hasn't heard of this >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_PactJan 31 16:31
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msb_XRevan86: Great!Jan 31 16:31
XRevan86msb_: Point is: I paid for medications but not the doctors.Jan 31 16:31
msb_Excellent (as long as meds are inexpensive).Jan 31 16:32
schestowitzand effective..Jan 31 16:32
XRevan86msb_: expensiveness of medications is very relativeJan 31 16:32
msb_XRevan86: Russia has the same drugs available as the US, right?Jan 31 16:33
XRevan86msb_: I really have no idea.Jan 31 16:33
XRevan86some are imported, some aren'tJan 31 16:33
XRevan86medications is one of the things Russia actually producesJan 31 16:34
XRevan86Probably because USSR did, and production wasn't demolished completely.Jan 31 16:34
XRevan86in 90sJan 31 16:34
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XRevan86msb_: Was it exactly 1920?Jan 31 16:36
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msb_XRevan86: I don't know exactly when my ancestors came to the US.  In fact, I only think they were from Ukraine because my grandmother mentioned a city name, which I remembered and looked up a year or two ago.Jan 31 16:39
XRevan86msb_: Not enough infoJan 31 16:43
XRevan86Odd that US and not France or Germany.Jan 31 16:44
schestowitzmsb_: but you have 4 grandparentsJan 31 16:45
MinceRwell, the us used to welcome immigrantsJan 31 16:45
schestowitzand they too had migrated beforehand, and their ancestors may have had, tooJan 31 16:45
schestowitzwere they "ethical Ukranians"?Jan 31 16:45
MinceRnot ethnical?Jan 31 16:46
schestowitzMinceR: it still does, the richer ones...Jan 31 16:46
schestowitzor the poor ones who become low cost labour to that former groupsJan 31 16:46
schestowitzlike fruit pickersJan 31 16:46
schestowitz"banada republic"Jan 31 16:46
msb_The city was Zhitomir, which also was the residence for a time of one Hayim Nahman Bialik, which is similar to my family name Bilk.  He became the national poet of (gag!) Israel.Jan 31 16:47
XRevan86schestowitz: Too early for Ukrainian ethnicality.Jan 31 16:47
msb_schestowitz: That's all I know about my family's origins.Jan 31 16:47
XRevan86* Ukrainian ethnic self-consciousnessJan 31 16:48
schestowitzso the US absorbs them before the mess, at least your grandpaJan 31 16:48
schestowitzUkriane was more a victim of Stalin than of Hitler AFAIKJan 31 16:49
schestowitzChomsky faces similar criticismJan 31 16:49
MinceRdon't underestimate a stalinist's ability to twist facts inside out to somehow blame hitler and/or the USA for that tooJan 31 16:49
schestowitzI think one of his parents was from LithuaniaJan 31 16:49
schestowitzthe other from that region tooJan 31 16:49
schestowitzso when he slams US foreign policies this is brought upJan 31 16:50
schestowitzAt least he isn't defending RussiaJan 31 16:50
schestowitzor StalinJan 31 16:50
XRevan86schestowitz: How come?Jan 31 16:50
schestowitzOliver Stone doesJan 31 16:50
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_StoneJan 31 16:51
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XRevan86> Ukriane was more a victim of Stalin than of Hitler AFAIKJan 31 16:53
XRevan86It all depends on how you define "Ukraine".Jan 31 16:53
XRevan86I wouldn't recommend to bring all that up though.Jan 31 16:53
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_UkraineJan 31 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | History of Ukraine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrxi ]Jan 31 16:54
schestowitz"Ukraine emerges as the concept of a nation, and the Ukrainians as a nationality, with the Ukrainian National Revival in the mid-18th century, in the wake of the peasant revolt of 1768/69 and the eventual partition of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. Galicia fell to the Austrian Empire, and the rest of Ukraine to the Russian Empire."Jan 31 16:55
schestowitz"Ukraine first became independent with the Ukrainian War of Independence of 1917 to 1921, but the resulting Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (in 1919 merged from the Ukrainian People's Republic and West Ukrainian People's Republic) was quickly subsumed in the Soviet Union."Jan 31 16:55
schestowitz"The Soviet famine of 1932–33 or Holodomor killed an estimated 6 to 8 million people in the Soviet Union, the majority of them in Ukraine."Jan 31 16:56
schestowitzSo the concept of this nation did existJan 31 16:56
XRevan86schestowitz: Concepts did existJan 31 16:56
XRevan86schestowitz: But weren't popular in XIX century in people's minds.Jan 31 16:56
schestowitz"Nazi Germany with its allies invaded the Soviet Union in 1941. Many Ukrainians initially regarded the Wehrmacht soldiers as liberators from Soviet rule, while others formed a partisan movement. Some elements of the Ukrainian nationalist underground formed a Ukrainian Insurgent Army that fought both Soviet forces and the Nazi. Others collaborated with the Germans."Jan 31 16:56
XRevan86One of Lenin's ideas was having Ukraine as a Soviet state.Jan 31 16:57
XRevan86so the idea was bringed upJan 31 16:57
XRevan86and later after that Ukrainian nationalism risen as an anti-Soviet movement.Jan 31 16:58
schestowitzbecause of the recent historyJan 31 16:59
XRevan86and Nazi helped, so... Hitler was a much better guy for independent Ukraine than Stalin was, naturally.Jan 31 16:59
XRevan86Nazis*Jan 31 16:59
msb_Immediately after the Bolshevik Revolution, Russia was invaded by armies from several capitalist nations, who murdered millions of Russians.  This was long before Stalin abused Ukraine or the Soviets did much of anything wrong.  The capitalist nations attacked the USSR because socialism threatened the profits of ultra-wealthy capitalists.  That's the same reason that some ultra-wealthy Americans provided 75% of the money for Hitler's Jan 31 17:00
msb_military buildup -- to have him destroy socialism in the USSR and in Europe (where it was getting quite popular).Jan 31 17:00
XRevan86But in 1920 it was all not yet successful.Jan 31 17:00
MinceRagain, msb_ calls stalinism "socialism"Jan 31 17:00
MinceRdidn't take longJan 31 17:00
schestowitzI have an idea for derailing the Sanders campaignJan 31 17:01
schestowitzmake msb_ a vocal proponent onlineJan 31 17:01
MinceRlolJan 31 17:01
msb_XRevan86:  You mean the invasion in 1920 did not succeed in destroying socialism in the USSR?Jan 31 17:01
XRevan86msb_: No, I meant that idea of Ukrainian nation was not yet there in people's minds massively back in 1920s.Jan 31 17:02
schestowitz"His father was born on September 19, 1904, in Słopnice, Poland" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_SandersJan 31 17:02
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MinceRany relation to Colonel Sanders?Jan 31 17:02
schestowitz"A guy named Adolf Hitler won an election in 1932. He won an election, and 50 million people died as a result"Jan 31 17:02
MinceRnazis today love to brag about how their idols came to power by winning elections tooJan 31 17:03
schestowitz"Sanders's elder brother, Larry Sanders, lives in England.[40] He was a Green Party county councillor representing the East Oxford division on Oxfordshire County Council, until he retired from the Council in 2013.'Jan 31 17:03
schestowitzDidn't know that..Jan 31 17:03
msb_MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!  First of all, Stalinism did not exist in 1920.  Second, there are good and bad forms of socialism.  Stalinism was a bad form, as I have said many times, when you keep lying about me.Jan 31 17:04
MinceRright, this time msb_ called leninism "socialism"Jan 31 17:04
MinceRsame thing, with slightly less killingJan 31 17:04
MinceRso much better!Jan 31 17:04
MinceRsee, kids, totalitarian dictatorship is totally OK, so long as you use the right symbols (hammer+sickle, red star) and kill a bit fewer people!Jan 31 17:05
MinceRmsb_: so, leninism is a "good form" of "socialism"?Jan 31 17:05
*MinceR wonders where the threshold isJan 31 17:05
XRevan86MinceR: What is leninism?Jan 31 17:05
MinceRXRevan86: lenin's brand of "socialist"/"communist"/etc. totalitarian dictatorship, which was then developed further by his apprentice stalinJan 31 17:06
XRevan86MinceR: Sorry, I didn't read Lenin's work.Jan 31 17:06
MinceRXRevan86: have you seen his legacy?Jan 31 17:07
XRevan86MinceR: He didn't do much.Jan 31 17:07
XRevan86he died earlyJan 31 17:07
schestowitz[person's name]ism is just a person's legacyJan 31 17:07
MinceRanother way to make dictatorship acceptable: die quickly!Jan 31 17:07
schestowitzeasily to define than labels like Socialism, unlike MarxismJan 31 17:08
MinceR"socialists" fought hard to strip the label "socialism" of all meaningJan 31 17:08
msb_Lenin was also too authoritarian, but since the capitalist nations had alread invaded Russia and murdered millions of Russians, Lenin knew that the USSR had to industrialize rapidly to defend against more capitalist military attacks.Jan 31 17:08
schestowitzMinceR: die quickly..Jan 31 17:08
schestowitz!google rreplican plan die quickly..Jan 31 17:08
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MinceRyeah, the external enemy excuseJan 31 17:08
MinceRmakes everything acceptableJan 31 17:08
schestowitz!google republican plan die quickly..Jan 31 17:08
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MinceRmsb_: guess what, hitler's dictatorship had external enemies too (and internal ones as well)Jan 31 17:09
XRevan86MinceR: So he ruled during the civil war.Jan 31 17:09
msb_MinceR: Not relevant to USSR.Jan 31 17:09
XRevan86then became a cabbage and died from syphilisJan 31 17:10
MinceRmsb_: could you show me the function that determines whether something is relevant to USSR?Jan 31 17:10
MinceRoh wait, it's called random()Jan 31 17:10
XRevan86some dictatorshipJan 31 17:10
msb_When people are lethally attacked, they become more willing to accept authoritarian rule in order that it  protect them.Jan 31 17:10
MinceRah, so that's why you're so fond of such attacksJan 31 17:11
msb_In Wilhelm Reich terminology, this is called "becoming armored".Jan 31 17:11
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Lenin-last-photo.jpgJan 31 17:12
msb_MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!  I have never said that I'm fond of lethal attacks.Jan 31 17:12
schestowitzit looks like Lenin stands next to LeninJan 31 17:12
XRevan86schestowitz: Huh?Jan 31 17:13
schestowitzwhich is probably what it is, brother or fatherJan 31 17:13
schestowitzhe looks like Che with a hat hereJan 31 17:13
XRevan86I don't see similiaritiesJan 31 17:13
schestowitzsame hat, tooJan 31 17:13
MinceRmsb_: not with those exact words?Jan 31 17:13
MinceRmsb_: why deny you've said something when everything you say is meaningless anyway?Jan 31 17:14
msb_MinceR: Not with any words.  If you say I have, then quote me exactly, giving the date.Jan 31 17:14
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Ленин_в_Горках_%281923%29.jpg and another oneJan 31 17:14
MinceR"colorless green ideas sleep furiously"Jan 31 17:14
XRevan86Dictator that doesn't dictate.Jan 31 17:15
MinceRnow show us pictures of hitler as a baby to prove he wasn't a dictator eitherJan 31 17:15
XRevan86MinceR: That was shortly after the civil war.Jan 31 17:15
MinceRplumbing new depths of argumentationJan 31 17:15
MinceRXRevan86: the civil war that led to the ussr?Jan 31 17:16
XRevan86MinceR: No, civil war that was shortly after the revolution.Jan 31 17:16
XRevan86MinceR: Soviets were against Emperor, Church and god himself.Jan 31 17:17
XRevan86people revoltedJan 31 17:17
MinceRlolJan 31 17:18
MinceR"god himself"Jan 31 17:18
XRevan86MinceR: yes :)Jan 31 17:18
MinceRthey certainly knew very well whose side a person who never existed stood onJan 31 17:18
XRevan86MinceR: Especially that's true for villages.Jan 31 17:18
XRevan86People believed in Emperor and mysticism.Jan 31 17:19
XRevan86and then suddenly power is in hands of "godless" non-Romanov'sJan 31 17:20
XRevan86(atheists)Jan 31 17:20
XRevan86(Romanov is a surname of the last dynasty)Jan 31 17:21
MinceRso then they deified some of those non-romanovsJan 31 17:21
MinceRput their pictures everywhereJan 31 17:21
MinceRbelieved their words without criticismJan 31 17:21
XRevan86MinceR: You're confusing with Stalin.Jan 31 17:21
MinceReven though they were clearly nonsenseJan 31 17:21
MinceRXRevan86: at least in hungaristan, lenin was deified as wellJan 31 17:21
XRevan86Civil War was before Stalin's reign.Jan 31 17:21
MinceRthough not necessary in his lifeJan 31 17:21
XRevan86MinceR: Stalin created a cult of Lenin (not my words).Jan 31 17:22
MinceRand of himselfJan 31 17:22
XRevan86MinceR: yesJan 31 17:22
XRevan86but that's afterJan 31 17:22
MinceRthe derivative of this is still ongoing (and taken to further extremes) in north koreaJan 31 17:22
XRevan86MinceR: yeasJan 31 17:22
XRevan86yes*Jan 31 17:22
MinceRthe first necrocracy on earth :>Jan 31 17:23
XRevan86MinceR: Not the first one.Jan 31 17:24
XRevan86MinceR: Remember religion-based states.Jan 31 17:24
XRevan86with icons of dead people and worshippers of thoseJan 31 17:24
MinceRdid those have a dead person as the official leader?Jan 31 17:25
XRevan86Jesus here is pretty much like Lenin, he himself didn't do much.Jan 31 17:25
XRevan86MinceR: yesJan 31 17:25
MinceR:)Jan 31 17:25
msb_MinceR: The US murdered 30% of the people in North Korea in the Korean War, many by dropping jellied gasoline on them.  Imagine how you would feel if that happened to you or your family.  Many of the survivors ended up living in caves.  This is why the North Koreans armored up and accept a bizarre authoritarian regime.Jan 31 17:26
MinceRah, that justifies everythingJan 31 17:26
MinceRpeople died, time to oppress everybodyJan 31 17:26
MinceRand then kill everybodyJan 31 17:26
MinceRgood job, human speciesJan 31 17:26
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Thecristisrizenoldrussiancivilwarposter.jpgJan 31 17:26
XRevan86Text below: Christ has risenJan 31 17:28
XRevan86on the shield: God is with us, Russia will riseJan 31 17:28
XRevan86(Съ нами Богъ, да воскреснетъ Россiя; христосъ воскресе!..)Jan 31 17:30
msb_People are designed to live in a warm, kind, mutually helpful environment, like bonobos have.  When they are subjected to horrible violence, torture and death, they get post-traumatic stress disorder -- PTSD.  That's the way we're built.  It has nothing to do with justifying anything.Jan 31 17:30
MinceRpeople are not "designed"Jan 31 17:30
XRevan86wired :)Jan 31 17:30
msb_evolvedJan 31 17:30
MinceRand people have never lived in a "warm, kind, mutually helpful environment"Jan 31 17:30
MinceRpeople live in the hell that is their own makingJan 31 17:31
XRevan86MinceR: People surely want it, but humans are dumb.Jan 31 17:31
MinceRthey're surely dumb but i'm not sure what they wantJan 31 17:31
MinceRif they were as smart as they gave credit for, they should realize they're destroying themselvesJan 31 17:32
msb_MinceR: You have an emotional illness that makes you think that.  Some people are born, grow up, and live in a congenial environment.Jan 31 17:32
MinceRthey keep making _obviously_ self-destructive choicesJan 31 17:32
MinceRlike voting for orban and putinJan 31 17:32
MinceRthough the latter might be ascribed to election fraudJan 31 17:32
MinceR146% and all thatJan 31 17:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/693848235476127746Jan 31 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz also 2 other OIN talks.Jan 31 17:32
schestowitzI want to embed or upload all, plus comments on them...Jan 31 17:33
MinceRmsb_: where is this "congenial environment"? in the holy russian empire?Jan 31 17:33
MinceRmsb_: or perhaps in Jesusland?Jan 31 17:34
XRevan86Additionally about Civil War: A lot of Russians believed that Soviets are enemies of Russia itself as they are enemies of Emperor's regime, because they thought Russia == Emperor.Jan 31 17:35
msb_MinceR: I don't know.  But we were developing it in the 1960s in the US -- the Woodstock Nation -- especially with the help of the widespread use of cannabis.Jan 31 17:36
MinceRso it was a dream that could not last?Jan 31 17:37
XRevan86(a lot but not as much as reformists apparently, because "whites" lost)Jan 31 17:37
MinceR(because humans being what they are)Jan 31 17:37
msb_It was destroyed from the outside by corporatist/govt attacks.Jan 31 17:37
msb_Jean Liedloff wrote a book called The Continuum Concept, about a society she found in Venezuela in which parents treat their children very gently.Jan 31 17:44
msb_They grow up to be very kind and cooperative.Jan 31 17:45
msb_She realized that our idea of human nature -- like MinceR's but not as severe -- was all wrong.Jan 31 17:46
cubexyzwell sure, I bet if you looked at murderers and violent criminals you would probably find a bad pastJan 31 17:47
cubexyzgood mentoring is very importantJan 31 17:47
msb_Nobody is born bad or antisocial, but unkind upbringing, from infancy makes them that way.  It's PTSD.Jan 31 17:47
msb_https://vimeo.com/46465730Jan 31 17:50
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MinceRwell yeah, if humanity stopped systematically abusing their children, that would probably help a lotJan 31 17:52
MinceRbut it's not like they'll do thatJan 31 17:52
msb_Download it with videodownloadhelper and watch it.  It can change your life!Jan 31 17:53
MinceRthere are some human instincts that are pretty destructive thoughJan 31 17:55
MinceRit needs training and/or willpower to overcomeJan 31 17:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesJan 31 18:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME and KDE https://t.co/cEkltQCvZCJan 31 18:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and KDE | Tux MachinesJan 31 18:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/N07BpRcJPqJan 31 18:02
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msb_MinceR: Humans have an instinct for psychopathy -- control or kill everyone else and then I will be safe -- but it does not get activated unless the person is severely stressed in childhood.Jan 31 18:02
MinceRthat's far from the only oneJan 31 18:03
MinceRfor example babies instinctually respond worse to people with different skin color, iircJan 31 18:03
MinceRthen there's the issue of being incapable of treating more than ~100 people as 'being in the same tribe' -- that is, as alliesJan 31 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD and Intel Graphics https://t.co/7ae6b3YNViJan 31 18:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD and Intel Graphics | Tux MachinesJan 31 18:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/M0sNT8MN1WJan 31 18:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/693851882608005122Jan 31 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz the cirkel seems to be closed again. So lets fork the @linuxfoundation? #Patrick_in_wonderland :)Jan 31 18:14
schestowitzBetter just support FSF for now, today's the last day to help support them!Jan 31 18:14
msb_MinceR: There are more than 100 people in the tribe Liedloff found.  And they didn't have any problem with her pink skin color.Jan 31 18:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/693860698024189952Jan 31 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz @linuxfoundation I've been doing so for years. We'll see what follows now.Jan 31 18:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/693861559039348737Jan 31 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz write a letter to FOSDEM organizers, I will second it. MP4 is full of patents.Jan 31 18:26
schestowitzAnd FOSS-hostile for many reasons. What's the F in FOSDEM? F* this s*.Jan 31 18:26
MinceRmsb_: with reason, humans can overcome many (if not all) instincts. but most people aren't willing to use reasonJan 31 18:33
msb_If kids are raised right, the psychopath instinct never gets activated.Jan 31 18:35
msb_MinceR: Anyhow, if you watch this video, and read the chalice and the blade, and read that RET booklet that I found for you, and make an effort, you should be able to overcome your paranoia and depression.  I hope you do, because you are really smart, and I like you, and you could contribute a lot.Jan 31 18:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 31/1/2016: OpenELEC 6.0.1, Linux Lite 2.8Jan 31 18:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 31/1/2016: OpenELEC 6.0.1, Linux Lite 2.8 | TechrightsJan 31 18:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6999985Jan 31 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 40% for #PirateParty in #iceland http://www.electograph.com/2016/01/iceland-january-2016-frettablaisto-2.html?m=1 @Falkvinge did succeed in at least one countryJan 31 19:31
schestowitz"Jan 31 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.electograph.com | ICELAND, January 2016. Fréttablaðið/Stöð 2 poll ~ electograph [ http://ur1.ca/ogshn ]Jan 31 19:31
schestowitzThis is just the beginning. Europe is becoming more polarized politically and I see the pirate party as a manifestation of that.Jan 31 19:31
schestowitzIceland is about to become the “#1 threat to US security” as was Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, and other “rouge” states.Jan 31 19:31
schestowitz"Jan 31 19:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6999865Jan 31 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Networking in 2016 http://current.workingdirectory.net/posts/2016/networking-in-2016/ "Once I had #NetworkManager installed, I decided it was easier to find..." #linuxJan 31 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> current.workingdirectory.net | Networking in 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/ogsi2 ]Jan 31 19:34
schestowitz"NetworkManager is too slow… prefer systemd-networkd."Jan 31 19:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6999457Jan 31 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mark #zuckerberg said he'd "fuck" #facebook users "in the ear". Bill Gates said: "“that's the dumbest fucking idea I've heard" (sociopaths)Jan 31 19:34
schestowitz"Ah, is that why he overcompensates?"Jan 31 19:34
MinceRnetworkmanager and systemd are both poetteringwareJan 31 20:07
DaemonFChttp://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-update-versus-ubuntu-update/Jan 31 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Windows Update versus Ubuntu Update | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/ogsn9 ]Jan 31 20:16
DaemonFCWell, Ed Bott's article is now irrelevant.Jan 31 20:16
DaemonFCWindows 10 ham fists everything in as a mandatory update which is immediately installed whether you want it or not.Jan 31 20:17
DaemonFCEven if the update is a video driver that was known to be broken before Microsoft pushed it out.Jan 31 20:17
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MinceRlolJan 31 20:18
MinceRwelcome to the botnet, usersJan 31 20:19
cubexyzGates the thiefJan 31 20:19
cubexyzyou need an OS with source, and toolchain with soureJan 31 20:22
cubexyzand BIOS source doesn't hurt eitherJan 31 20:22
cubexyzbasically the users have no control with windows 10Jan 31 20:24
cubexyznot that they ever had much control on previous versions of windows, but now it's just ridiculousJan 31 20:29
TweetTuxMachines@Durga_Karma     The Michael Daily News byJan 31 20:29
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TweetTuxMachines                 publiziert! https://t.co/hMStK0OxSU (paper.li)Jan 31 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Vielen Dank an @tuxmachines @JenniferJgerJan 31 20:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Michael Daily News by https://michael.lr-partner.comJan 31 20:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Stock Android should score native themeJan 31 21:27
TweetTuxMachines                 support! Here are some gorgeous themes thatJan 31 21:27
TweetTuxMachines                 support this https://t.co/DnJD5vtvgLJan 31 21:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Stock Android should score native theme support! Here are some gorgeous themes that support thisJan 31 21:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Blackberry preparing to power business withJan 31 21:28
TweetTuxMachines                 more Android launches in 2016Jan 31 21:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zeenews.india.com | Blackberry preparing to power business with more Android launches in 2016 | Zee NewsJan 31 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobileburn.com | BlackBerry Exec: "Only Android as a Platform"Jan 31 21:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/693923659984011264Jan 31 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: Κ. Κούνεβα: «Να πάρουν θέση τα κράτη μέλη του Ευρωπαϊκού Οργανισμού Ευρεσιτεχνίας» - https://t.co/pY7CuWJIHl (v @schestowitz)Jan 31 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.syriza.gr | Κ. Κούνεβα: «Να πάρουν θέση τα κράτη μέλη του Ευρωπαϊκού Οργανισμού Ευρεσιτεχνίας» | ΣΥΡΙΖΑ Συνασπισμός Ριζοσπαστικής ΑριστεράςJan 31 22:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/693923126565040128Jan 31 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @MMFlint Minorities support Trump more often than Sanders. Save for one.Jan 31 22:30
schestowitzSource?Jan 31 22:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "On 22nd of January evening we had the secondJan 31 22:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora meetup in Pune." https://t.co/ajxaZ5YW0ZJan 31 22:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Second Fedora Pune meetup in JanuaryJan 31 22:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/MU1qSI50vQJan 31 22:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 31 22:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First PointJan 31 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 FixesJan 31 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ORYsWA8ZOW (news.softpedia.com)Jan 31 22:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 FixesJan 31 22:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point...'Jan 31 22:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693925355837587456Jan 31 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I deleted my Dropbox a very long time ago. I'm ashamed of my colleague :))Jan 31 22:36
schestowitzhe also did skype promotion today, it harvests address books for unaware victims (who install this malware)Jan 31 22:36
MinceRmsb_: do you have an epub of The Continuum Concept?Jan 31 22:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693926069792018432Jan 31 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz yeah, sadly, I saw that...Jan 31 22:50
schestowitzNext up: Mono ;-)Jan 31 22:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/693928126041169922Jan 31 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @MMFlint https://t.co/CXXsPcj6LMJan 31 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | On Twitter, Bernie Sanders’s supporters are becoming one of his biggest problems - The Washington PostJan 31 22:51
MinceRhttps://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12670192_1705761742971458_5488556742352857361_n.jpg?oh=e8e8c14542f101bec977d73bfd53d15d&oe=57395058Jan 31 22:52
schestowitzDays ago he backtracked, withdrew, and expressed support for Sanders. Not sure if you saw that...Jan 31 22:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693929871207186434Jan 31 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Ha ha :D I need to have a chat with him for some real #Linux software reviews for February... ;)Jan 31 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating SystemJan 31 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Running on NanoPi 2 SBCJan 31 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/5Q7DxASZ1M (linux.softpedia.com)Jan 31 23:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating System Running on NanoPi 2 SBCJan 31 23:03
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msb_Those SBCs are amazing!  The Orange Pi Plus has 4 cores and 1GB of RAM, $39 and all necessary cables and accessories are available.  I think the postage is $1/item, but I'm not sure.  Of course it runs Linux.Jan 31 23:31
msb_http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1553371Jan 31 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aliexpress.com | Shenzhen Xunlong Software CO.,Limited - Small Orders Online Store, Hot Selling adapter 24v,adapter australia,adaptive toys and more on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba GroupJan 31 23:31
MinceRi hope they take support as seriously as the raspberry pi guysJan 31 23:32
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msb_I'm having trouble contacting their website.  I got it previously.  http://www.orangepi.org/orangepipc/Jan 31 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.orangepi.org | orange pi pc - OrangepiJan 31 23:37
msb_came in this time, and the bot got itJan 31 23:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/z31r4m/status/693941526074773505Jan 31 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@z31r4m: @schestowitz “Washington Compost” but I get where you’re going with that. @EnVogueRogueJan 31 23:40
msb_orange  pi plus 2 has 2GB of RAM, $53 shippedJan 31 23:41
MinceR:)Jan 31 23:42
msb_There are 9 people in #orangepiJan 31 23:42
msb_If you have a tv you can hook it to, and buy a cheap keyboard, mouse and disk, you can probably get the whole thing for $150Jan 31 23:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating System Running on...'Jan 31 23:45
msb_Imagine being a kid today and getting that!Jan 31 23:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First PointJan 31 23:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 FixesJan 31 23:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 Fixes | Tux MachinesJan 31 23:46
msb_I was very happy with an IBM-PC with 640KB of RAM and a much less powerful processor.Jan 31 23:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating SystemJan 31 23:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Running on NanoPi 2 SBC https://t.co/6buBPtKsc7Jan 31 23:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating System Running on NanoPi 2 SBC | Tux MachinesJan 31 23:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases!Jan 31 23:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/or7oUbcbfr (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 31 23:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases! | Tux MachinesJan 31 23:47
msb_And I was 40 at the time.Jan 31 23:47
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schestowitzhttp://www8.hp.com/us/en/cloud/helion-eucalyptus-overview.htmlJan 31 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www8.hp.com | HPE Helion Eucalyptus | Hewlett Packard Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/ogth9 ]Jan 31 23:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/martenmickos/status/693942946761039874Jan 31 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@martenmickos: @schestowitz here: https://t.co/qxGC3IwZZS and thanks @Metztli_ITJan 31 23:55
schestowitz Good. Is it still as FOSS as before?Feb 01 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Parkitect, the theme park building sim isFeb 01 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 currently broken on LinuxFeb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1aWPhwRQ3L (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 01 00:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Parkitect, the theme park building sim is currently broken on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases!Feb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0m84WwnDLT (milianw.de)Feb 01 00:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-milianw.de | KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases! | Milian WolffFeb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.4.1 https://t.co/SqUNVIPmti (lwn.net)Feb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.3.5 https://t.co/8nojYjDZnX (lwn.net)Feb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.1.17 https://t.co/Psmvi5nU3I (lwn.net)Feb 01 00:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What’s going on with GNOME To DoFeb 01 00:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | What’s going on with GNOME To Do | Georges StavracasFeb 01 00:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a NewFeb 01 00:40
TweetTuxMachines                 MythTV Theme for the OS https://t.co/VccPCFcLA4Feb 01 00:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a New MythTV Theme for the OSFeb 01 00:40
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TweetTuxMachines@LinuxTopNews    Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First PointFeb 01 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Release, Adds... https://t.co/gEtugZnO9zFeb 01 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachinesFeb 01 00:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 FixesFeb 01 00:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxTopNews: Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds... https://t.co/gEtugZnO9z via @tuxmachines https://t.co/qWKRodHvplFeb 01 00:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenGL 4.4's Query Buffer Object SupportFeb 01 00:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Appears Nearly Ready For NouveauFeb 01 00:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/scv39EUUax (www.phoronix.com)Feb 01 00:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | OpenGL 4.4's Query Buffer Object Support Appears Nearly Ready For Nouveau - PhoronixFeb 01 00:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693961557206761473Feb 01 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I think you'll love this ;)Feb 01 01:02
schestowitzWe shall see. If it's production-ready.Feb 01 01:02
schestowitzThe latest kde build, compiled for 15.10, did fix some severe bugs (trying it for 2 days now)Feb 01 01:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet KDE Neon, Everything You Love About KDE onFeb 01 01:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Top of Ubuntu Linux https://t.co/pwD2KKQwewFeb 01 01:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meet KDE Neon, Everything You Love About KDE on Top of Ubuntu LinuxFeb 01 01:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meet KDE Neon, Everything You Love About KDE...'Feb 01 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Plasma Mobile on Wayland Full Review -Feb 01 01:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Welcome To The KDE Prototype For Mobile DevicesFeb 01 01:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | KDE Plasma Mobile on Wayland Full Review - Welcome To The KDE Prototype For Mobile Devices - YouTubeFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Experiences with deepin 15Feb 01 01:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Feb 01 01:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Experiences with deepin 15Feb 01 01:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-simplicitylinux.org | Simplicity Linux 16.01 is now available for download - Simplicity LinuxFeb 01 01:23
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schestowitzhttp://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/amazon-becoming-just-another-mortal-companyFeb 01 01:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Simplicity Linux 16.01 is now available for download | Tux MachinesFeb 01 02:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.10.96 LTS Has Networking and Sound Enhancements, Updated Drivers | Tux MachinesFeb 01 02:41
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cubexyzhow is Iceland a 'threat'?Feb 01 02:43
*cubexyz just doesn't understand the worldFeb 01 02:44
oiaohmcubexyz: http://www.livescience.com/50004-iceland-eruption-ends-bardarbunga.htmlFeb 01 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.livescience.com | Iceland's Largest Eruption Ends…Maybe [ http://ur1.ca/ogu3z ]Feb 01 02:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing for Audio...'Feb 01 02:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 FixesFeb 01 02:58
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oiaohmcubexyz: if they are talking about the volcano problem in lcelenad I can understand the threat problem.Feb 01 02:58
msb_cubexyz: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iceland-has-jailed-26-bankers-why-wont-we-a6735411.htmlFeb 01 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Iceland has jailed 26 bankers, why won't we? | Voices | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/ogu5g ]Feb 01 03:12
msb_http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/10/23/3715775/iceland-jails-bankers-and-survives/Feb 01 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Iceland, Where Bankers Actually Go To Jail For Committing White-Collar Crimes | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/ogu5k ]Feb 01 03:13
msb_Iceland is a threat  to some of the most powerful thieving psychopaths that control the world.Feb 01 03:14
msb_cubexyz: The banksters crashed the world economy in 2008 by gathering together mortgages that couldn't be paid and falsely rating the grouped mortgages as good investments, sold them to various governments, retirement funds, etc, which then lost huge amounts of money to the banksters.Feb 01 03:18
msb_Obomber brought some of the biggest banking criminals into the US govt and put them in control of financial matters as high officials.Feb 01 03:19
msb_Obomber decreed that the banks were "too big to be allowed to fail" and gave them TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS of money from US taxpayers.Feb 01 03:21
msb_!google iceland bankersFeb 01 03:28
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Iceland has jailed 26 bankers, why won't we? | Voices | The ... | http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iceland-has-jailed-26-bankers-why-wont-we-a6735411.htmlFeb 01 03:28
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Iceland, Where Bankers Actually Go To Jail For Committing White ... | http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/10/23/3715775/iceland-jails-bankers-and-survives/Feb 01 03:28
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - If Iceland Can Jail Bankers For The Crash Then Why Can't America ... | http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/10/24/if-iceland-can-jail-bankers-for-the-crash-then-why-cant-america/Feb 01 03:28
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Iceland: Where Bankers Go to Jail for 74 Years - The Daily Beast | http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/23/iceland-where-bankers-go-to-jail-for-74-years.htmlFeb 01 03:28
msb_I didn't know mere mortals can do that, but it works!Feb 01 03:28
oiaohmmsb_: http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/07/31/china-sentences-6-bankers-to-death-for-looting/  nothing is quite as scary as china for bankers.Feb 01 03:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalvelcraft.org | China Sentences 6 Bankers To Death For Looting. | Political Vel Craft [ http://ur1.ca/ogu72 ]Feb 01 03:30
msb_Interesting website:  it links to one of the same  9/11 research  videos that I do  --  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98&feature=youtu.beFeb 01 03:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogu83 ]Feb 01 03:39
msb_and much more, all here:   http://politicalvelcraft.org/false-flags/Feb 01 03:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalvelcraft.org | False Flags | Political Vel Craft [ http://ur1.ca/ogu8b ]Feb 01 03:40
msb_“Al-Qaida,(sic) literally ‘the database,’ was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians,” admits former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook, whose Foreign Office portfolio included control of British Intelligence Agency MI-6 and the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), in a column published by the UK Guardian newspaper.Feb 01 03:47
msb_The mujahideen were a bunch of Islamic crazy killers who were armed by the US to attack the secular, Russia-allied government of Afghanistan in the 1980s.Feb 01 03:57
msb_The US gave them surface-to-air missiles to shoot down aircraft.Feb 01 03:58
msb_To summarize: the US created large-scale Islamic terrorism in the 1980s to harass Russia, because socialism -- even the crappy USSR kind -- threatened the profits of the ultra-wealthy.Feb 01 04:12
MinceRi wonder how the USSR kind of "socialism" threatened the profits of the most powerful "socialist" party membersFeb 01 04:13
MinceRi guess it did so by rendering their economy unworkableFeb 01 04:13
msb_The mujahideen eventually succeeded, replacing the secular Afghan  govt with the head-chopper clit-cutter Taliban.  During the 1990s US agent Boris Yeltsin dissolved the USSR and wrecked the Russian economy.  Feb 01 04:14
MinceRyes, Yeltsin travelled back to before his birth and established the "socialist" economy that ruined russiaFeb 01 04:15
msb_This left the US weapons industry with nothing to do for a profit, so "a new Pearl Harbor" was required.  That was 9-11, proved to be a  US false-flag terror operation by simple physical analysis of the collapse videos of WTC1 and WTC7 proving that they were demolished with explosives.Feb 01 04:16
MinceRrejoice, for the russian empire is backFeb 01 04:18
MinceRand they're more than willing to fire off all the nukes left over from the ussr for a bit of attentionFeb 01 04:19
msb_The Russian economy had been working, if poorly, under the USSR's authoritarian state socialism, but Yeltsin sold off the state assets at 10% of their value to wealthy capitalists, plunging the economy into ruin.Feb 01 04:19
msb_Using its false-flag 9/11 attack as pretext, the US attacked Afghanistan, murdering 1,000,000 people, to get rid of the Taliban that the US had purposely installed 20  years before.Feb 01 04:22
msb_The US attacked Iraq to get rid of the evil Sadaam Hussein, whom it had installed to replace a beneficial socialist many decades before.Feb 01 04:23
MinceRthere's no such thing as a "beneficial socialist"Feb 01 04:24
msb_This attack murdered another 1,000,000 Iraquis, added to the previous million murdered by the Bush and Clinton regimes in the 1990s.Feb 01 04:24
msb_In 2011, Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, and Obama, attacked Libya, murdering its president Gadaffi and hundreds of thousands of its people.  Gadaffi was a socialist who gave the nation's oil profits to the people, giving them free housing and education to the university level, and terrifying the 1% capitalists who owned 99% of the wealth and control the US govt.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek Feb 01 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Libya Truth (DnB Soundtrack) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jld5s ]Feb 01 04:28
MinceRoh, they murdered a poor defenseless dictatorFeb 01 04:29
MinceRthe bastards.Feb 01 04:29
msb_Libya had had the highest standard of living of any African nation.  Now its people are starving, and Libya and Iraq have been partly taken over by ISIL -- total murdering psychopath robots -- which are what the US armed and financed mujahideen/Al-Qaeda have morphed into.Feb 01 04:32
MinceRi'd ask the south africans about thatFeb 01 04:32
MinceRalso, the people of seychellesFeb 01 04:33
MinceRand equatorial guineaFeb 01 04:33
msb_The US then attacked Syria by arming Islamic opposition fighters against the Assad government, which opposed the petroDOLLAR system and opposed Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.  Feb 01 04:34
msb_The Islamics armed by the US then either dropped their weapons for ISIL to pick up, or actually joined ISIL.  Until the Russians, with Assad's approval, starting bombing ISIL in Syria, it looked like ISIL was going to take over the entire Middle East.  This suited the US ally Israel, which decades before had declared that half of the ME should eventually comprise "Greater Israel".Feb 01 04:37
msb_Contrary to what the deluded and obsessed MinceR says, Gaddafi in Libya, Daniel Ortega (elected) in Nicaragua, and Fidel Castro in Cuba were all beneficial socialists, who enabled good economies for their nations, despite all being attacked militarily by the US.Feb 01 04:43
MinceRand those economies were so "good" that msb_ doesn't want to live in any of themFeb 01 04:45
msb_As I've said, I'm 70 years old and have medical problems.  I'm on social security, which I paid for during my working  years.  The US govt has not threatened me, so I have no reason to move.Feb 01 04:47
msb_As to dictators and democracy, if Gaddafi wasn't elected by US election standards, but enabled very good lives for the people of Libya, then the US calls him an "evil dictator", worthy of being murdered.Feb 01 04:50
msb_Whereas if a ruler is elected by a totally corrupt system, like we have in the US, in which both parties are completely controlled by the ultra-wealthy, and that ruler murders millions of people for the benefit of the ultra-wealthy, like GHW Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama have done, that's perfectly fine, because they were "elected" by (totally fake) "democracy".Feb 01 04:54
msb_Stalinist authoritarian state socialism treated Hungary, where MinceR lives, very badly 60 years ago, and he has become traumatized and deluded  by this, and projects the evil of that particularly bad variety of socialism onto all varieties of socialism.Feb 01 05:05
msb_Hungary is still experiencing the PTSD from that, after two generations, and is still a mess, similar to North Korea after having 1/3 of its population murdered by the US, but Hungary is not as badly messed up as NK.Feb 01 05:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/martenmickos/status/693990281213923328Feb 01 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@martenmickos: @schestowitz afaikFeb 01 08:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/694022073673453569Feb 01 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I actually agree with the Bern to some extent re. Wall Street, a context in which other Democrats are venal hypocrites.Feb 01 08:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/694071402064908288Feb 01 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz https://t.co/EMwC5tJ09yFeb 01 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UKParliament: Cost of Investigatory Powers Bill could undermine UK Tech sector says report published by @CommonsSTC https://t.co/DKhELg6NjAFeb 01 08:52
schestowitz> http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-10/Feb 01 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wmpoweruser.com | Windows 10 Build 14251 may have a mysterious Linux sub-system - WMPoweruserFeb 01 09:13
schestowitz> Feb 01 09:13
schestowitz> license violation?Feb 01 09:13
schestowitzI saw that last night, but not in other sources...Feb 01 09:13
oiaohmschestowitz: not sure but it would 100 percent worth someone having a serous look.Feb 01 09:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694089719123202048Feb 01 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz this should be interesting....Feb 01 09:50
schestowitzI will write an article about it laterFeb 01 09:50
schestowitzhttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/01/31/statement-from-the-robert-lavoy-finicum-family/Feb 01 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.paulcraigroberts.org | Statement From The Robert “LaVoy” Finicum Family - PaulCraigRoberts.org [ http://ur1.ca/ogv6y ]Feb 01 10:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/694097616284598276\Feb 01 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz they were more busy watching the output of the keyloggers :-)Feb 01 10:00
schestowitzSo @jonobacon is using a Mac now http://www.jonobacon.org/2016/02/01/the-hybrid-desktop/ so much for software freedom…Feb 01 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jonobacon.org | The Hybrid Desktop | jonobacon@home [ http://ur1.ca/ogv7s ]Feb 01 10:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/694100769063043072Feb 01 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jonobacon: @schestowitz I have never been 100% Free Software. I primarily use open source and also some non-free apps where needed.Feb 01 10:13
schestowitzthanks for clarifyingFeb 01 10:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 01 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.5-rc2 Brings A Surprising Amount OfFeb 01 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Changes https://t.co/xGTf1msOz0Feb 01 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.5-rc2 Brings A Surprising Amount Of Changes - PhoronixFeb 01 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces the Second Linux Kernel 4.5 Release Candidate BuildFeb 01 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Story-driven RTS Battle of Empires 1914-1918Feb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 looks like it's coming to Linux & SteamOSFeb 01 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Story-driven RTS Battle of Empires 1914-1918 looks like it's coming to Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung's Android browser gets ad blockingFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 capabilities  https://t.co/hVQObbXMB3Feb 01 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Samsung's Android browser gets ad blocking capabilities | The VergeFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nine tips to use your Android phone moreFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 efficiently https://t.co/86YT7xnEPsFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.smh.com.au) #android #linuxFeb 01 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smh.com.au | Nine tips to use your Android phone more efficientlyFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It Looks Like Google Has Finally Caught On ToFeb 01 10:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemless Root - #AndroidPay No LongerFeb 01 10:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Compatible https://t.co/1qgPaFW1UfFeb 01 10:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com) #android #linuxFeb 01 10:50
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/694128483824472064Feb 01 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: My first Linux distro. https://t.co/1B1fgVfKvxFeb 01 12:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/694128551029657602Feb 01 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz All you need to know about Microsoft Privacy is These Hidden Windows 10 App Permissions= 0 Privacy https://t.co/OZQSv3EsNjFeb 01 12:14
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schestowitzbetter yet, dump WindowsFeb 01 12:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/694129029981552641Feb 01 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: The real reason Eich was fired is his anti-DRM views. SJWs were chums and stooges for corporate interests. https://t.co/cAdmpa3lXYFeb 01 12:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/694129373276966912Feb 01 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Nor Obama until 2012. https://t.co/5UJiO2SWDwFeb 01 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #mozilla CEO lost his job because of SJWs who are selectively witch-hunting. #clinton didn't support same-sex marriage until 2010.Feb 01 12:15
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oiaohmhttp://betanews.com/2016/01/30/stop-using-microsoft-edges-inprivate-mode-if-you-value-your-privacy/  Nice false feature.Feb 01 12:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/694134283108155392Feb 01 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz At this rate Data Security Will Look Like this in the Year 2016: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/Vo5uEMcOydFeb 01 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.termsmayapply.com | Smartphone Application Permissions - App PermissionsFeb 01 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz At this rate Data Security Will Look Like this in the Year 2016: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/Vo5uEMcOydFeb 01 13:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/694135305494880256Feb 01 13:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/N_is_Een/status/694151504966610946Feb 01 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@N_is_Een: De Zwitserse @piratenpartij is één van de drijvende krachten achter het komende referendum over #surveillance wet. https://t.co/FR0T5EgKMBFeb 01 13:39
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msb_schestowitz: WhatFeb 01 13:41
msb_schestowitz: What's the (alleged?)   story about Brendan Eich and SJWs?  Is there a writeup on that?Feb 01 13:42
schestowitzzoobab: waiting for fosdem video about upc before publishing along with slidesFeb 01 13:49
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MinceR060511 < msb_> Stalinist authoritarian state socialism treated Hungary, where MinceR lives, very badly 60 years ago, and he has become traumatized and deluded  by Feb 01 15:11
MinceR               this, and projects the evil of that particularly bad variety of socialism onto all varieties of socialism.Feb 01 15:11
MinceRwrong.Feb 01 15:11
MinceRstalinism fucked up hungary for its entire duration.Feb 01 15:11
MinceRand msb_ equated that system to the utopia he also calls "socialism"Feb 01 15:11
MinceRmaking it seem as if life under one of the most brutally oppressive totalitarian dictatorships was a utopiaFeb 01 15:12
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XRevan86this againFeb 01 15:12
MinceRalso, hungarians are still addled by what stalinism taught them, they're still unwilling to think for themselves or to take on any responsibilityFeb 01 15:13
MinceRand they still expect the state to think and live in their steadFeb 01 15:13
msb_MinceR: Stop lying about me!  I _never_ said that stalinism was utopian.  Also, I have said that there are good and bad types of socialism, and that stalinism was a bad type.Feb 01 15:13
MinceRthat's how we ended up under dictatorship again since 2010.Feb 01 15:13
msb_MinceR: You are a smart person.  You have made very funny jokes.  Why is it that when you talk about me and socialism you keep lying and lying?Feb 01 15:15
MinceRmsb_: i'm not the one who tries to muddle the distinction between stalinism and anarcho-communism.Feb 01 15:16
msb_What is anarcho-communism?Feb 01 15:16
msb_I have never used that term?Feb 01 15:17
oiaohmmsb_: really if you have to ask that shows how little you know of the topic.Feb 01 15:17
oiaohmmsb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communismFeb 01 15:17
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oiaohmMinceR: personally I prefer Anarchist Communism to the term anarcho-communisim.   Since its more clean its Communism lacking key central management.Feb 01 15:22
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msb_MinceR: Quote me where I have tried to "muddle the distinction between stalinism and anarcho-communism".  Of course you won't be able to, because I never have.  You are lying about me again.Feb 01 15:23
MinceRmsb_: you keep calling stalinism "socialism" but you keep describing "socialism" with attributes people tend to apply to anarcho-communism and almost nobody is deluded enough to believe stalinism has those attributesFeb 01 15:25
MinceRlike the workers being in any sort of control whateverFeb 01 15:25
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism  anyone who knows there terms knows that stalinism is not socialism.Feb 01 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Stalinism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 01 15:26
msb_I have said that there are many different types of socialism.  Some of those types don't have workers in control of anything.Feb 01 15:26
oiaohmLOLOLL really.Feb 01 15:27
MinceRyou keep saying that in "socialism", workers decide what goes and that stalinism is "socialism" -- together these two statements are obviously false.Feb 01 15:27
MinceRmsb_: yet you say stalinism is great because it's "socialism"Feb 01 15:27
MinceRunder stalinism, workers are effectively slaves owned by the slaveFeb 01 15:28
MinceRunder stalinism, workers are effectively slaves owned by the stateFeb 01 15:28
MinceRthey don't even tend to be allowed to move freelyFeb 01 15:28
MinceR(see internal passports in russia, the iron curtain and the berlin wall)Feb 01 15:28
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SocialismFeb 01 15:29
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oiaohmSocialism and Stalinsim are in fact incompatible.Feb 01 15:29
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msb_MinceR: You are lying again.  I have explicitly said that in good forms of socialism workers are in control.  I have never said that stalinism is great or has workers in control.Feb 01 15:30
oiaohmmsb_: Stalinist authoritarian state socialism treated Hungary  << That bit you said is wrong.Feb 01 15:31
MinceRyou also keep bringing up other stalinist dictatorships as exemplars to be emulated, only because they put "socialist" in the name of their stateFeb 01 15:31
oiaohmMinceR: point out to msb that he need to read what Stalinist is and socialism is because in fact Stalinist is not classed as socialism.Feb 01 15:32
MinceRoiaohm: i think he believes labels too muchFeb 01 15:32
oiaohmMinceR: Stalinist is creative dictatorship Feb 01 15:32
MinceRoiaohm: "this state calls itself 'socialist' and a 'people's democracy' so it must be great!"Feb 01 15:33
MinceRi don't see what's creative about itFeb 01 15:33
oiaohmMinceR: socialist is in fact not a type of government.Feb 01 15:34
msb_MinceR: What "stalinist dictatorships" are you claiming that I urge to emulate?Feb 01 15:34
oiaohmMinceR: socialist is a title giving to a poltical party that contains somewhere in it documents say that it going after socialism goals.Feb 01 15:35
MinceRmsb_: it changes as i look up your examples and point out that they're not nearly as great as you saidFeb 01 15:36
MinceRoiaohm: who enforces that, especially where that party is the state?Feb 01 15:36
msb_MinceR: Name them.Feb 01 15:37
MinceRoiaohm: i wouldn't go looking for rule of law in a dictatorshipFeb 01 15:37
MinceRmsb_: earlier you kept bringing up venezuela until i pointed out they have worse inequality than the usa. now you bring up nicaragua and cubaFeb 01 15:37
MinceReven though cuba being a dictatorship is pretty well knownFeb 01 15:37
MinceRoh, and libyaFeb 01 15:37
oiaohmMinceR: Socialist party in charge can equal dictatorship if they believe that it the way to get to socialism.  Why it important to split those words.Feb 01 15:37
MinceRwhich sucked so much the people revolted against the dictatorFeb 01 15:38
MinceR(not that they had any hope of putting in its place a system that's any better though)Feb 01 15:38
oiaohmMinceR: basically if a country is socialism or not you are basically ticking off check boxes.Feb 01 15:38
MinceRoiaohm: do you believe them if they say they oppress and exploit everyone because that's the way to "socialism"?Feb 01 15:38
msb_I think the people who revolted against Gaddafi were islamics instigated by the US.Feb 01 15:38
MinceRoiaohm: also, do you believe marx's fever dream that a dictatorship will one day just give up its power and hand it over to the people?Feb 01 15:39
MinceRi don't see how anyone believed that could ever workFeb 01 15:39
MinceRmsb_: you won't find much else in that region, i'm afraidFeb 01 15:39
MinceRmsb_: even some of the allegedly "socialist" leaders tend to be muslimFeb 01 15:40
MinceRlike the alawite assadsFeb 01 15:40
MinceRthat region would have to progress a lot (and avoid oblivion on the way) before it can have any hope of even a flawed democracyFeb 01 15:40
MinceRthe same is true of israelFeb 01 15:41
msb_I don't know if Gaddafi was islamic, but people were very happy with him:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6EkFeb 01 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Libya Truth (DnB Soundtrack) - YouTubeFeb 01 15:41
MinceRmeanwhile religious fundamentalism is threatening to regress countries that are better off into that stateFeb 01 15:41
MinceRif not to wipe them out entirelyFeb 01 15:41
MinceRmsb_: every dictator has faithful believers/followersFeb 01 15:41
oiaohmMinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Politics  There are 8 official political structures socialism that a socialism based country has to choose 1.   None mandate oppression let alone exploiting everyone.Feb 01 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogwhd ]Feb 01 15:42
MinceRmsb_: and even if they didn't, they have enough power to have such things producedFeb 01 15:42
MinceRoiaohm: again, who enforces that?Feb 01 15:42
msb_The socialist govt of Nicaragua is elected.Feb 01 15:43
oiaohmMinceR: in fact if you read the defines of the 8 types you will find major oppression is in fact rejected by all 8.Feb 01 15:43
MinceRmsb_: that by itself means nothingFeb 01 15:43
oiaohmMinceR: basically you don't find true Socialism with those issues.   Socialist governments and the like attempt to get to Socialism got stupid at times.Feb 01 15:44
MinceRmsb_: democracy has a lot more things to it than just "electing" a government. also, once a government is elected, they can terminate democracy if they have enough power.Feb 01 15:44
MinceRoiaohm: there may well never have been a state that had "true socialism" everFeb 01 15:44
oiaohmMinceR: there are a few that are Democratic socialism that work.Feb 01 15:45
oiaohmMinceR: but they are extreme minority,Feb 01 15:46
oiaohmDemocratic Socialism is interesting one because you have democracy with state run and provided services.Feb 01 15:46
msb_MinceR: it's pointless discussing this with you, because you keep confusing edge cases with mainstream cases.  And since you seem to have oiaohm helping you, and he is insane, I'm not going to participate anymore.Feb 01 15:47
MinceRoiaohm: well, some democratic republics with a market economy were called "democratic socialism" or "social democracy"Feb 01 15:47
MinceRwhich is then used in an attempt to legitimize stalinist dictatorshipsFeb 01 15:47
MinceRmsb_: again, you are the one trying to confuse very different systems with each other, not anyone else.Feb 01 15:48
oiaohmMinceR: key point Democratic socialism the fakes did not have the required free and fair elections.     Democratic socialism is in fact a very old thing.   Goes back to how the Athens parliament run things.  Long before stalinist ideas.Feb 01 15:53
oiaohmMinceR: yes you are right when something is called some political system you do have to go and check off the required features making sure they are present.   There is a lot of claiming to be X system when they are not.Feb 01 15:55
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cubexyzok, just an old hexedit I wrote for Xenix or sysv, it works on Linux but not BSD:Feb 01 16:49
cubexyzhttp://cubeman.org/prog_files/hexedit-1.0.tar.gzFeb 01 16:50
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cubexyzI see a lot of posts about "I want a non-UEFI motherboard" but few answersFeb 01 17:03
cubexyzI mean really... just booting Linux via UEFI bricks some samsung laptopsFeb 01 17:04
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cubexyzand about LCD monitor longevity, I have a 15 year old thinkpad r30 and the LCD is starting to goFeb 01 17:09
cubexyzI suppose I'll have to replace it some dayFeb 01 17:09
cubexyzthe zaurus has a small colour LCD which works fineFeb 01 17:10
abeNd-orggoodness I havent heard zaurus in agesFeb 01 17:12
abeNd-orgthat was a neat pda back in the day, i wanted one, never managed to come up with the cash thoughFeb 01 17:13
cubexyzit's still neat :)Feb 01 17:13
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abeNd-orgI would think a repurposed old 2gb ram netbook would have more power these days though, & probably next to $0 to purchaseFeb 01 17:15
cubexyznot too many devices have IR portFeb 01 17:18
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abeNd-orgmost of the models of netbooks i remember handling had an IR portFeb 01 17:25
abeNd-orgwhat do you use the ir port with these days that a usb/bluetooth/wireless interface wouldnt work with instead?Feb 01 17:25
cubexyzwell I've done some experiments using old tv remotes on my computerFeb 01 17:27
cubexyzI wanted to learn the IRDA stuffFeb 01 17:28
abeNd-orgneat, i remember playing around with palmpilots. been meaning to try the irblaster in my phone with the tv & such, never get around to it thoughFeb 01 17:29
cubexyzI have quite a large pile of old tv remotes so ... :)Feb 01 17:31
cubexyzthe old tvs are gone, but the remotes are still thereFeb 01 17:31
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cubexyzthe range on bluetooth would be a lot betterFeb 01 17:36
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cubexyzcan't remember if that was in the distro or if I added itFeb 01 17:48
cubexyzyeah back in 2008 I wrote to actisys about itFeb 01 17:51
cubexyzactisys told me about Consumer IR (CIR)Feb 01 17:52
cubexyzwas the ATI one called IR Blaster?Feb 01 17:53
cubexyzah, wait, it probably was the Remote WonderFeb 01 17:54
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abeNd-orgi think that was it. creative labs had something like it at one point, never really messed with it though. now there are a zillion wifi/bluetooth apps to control a HTPC type computer from a smartphone , no need for that old ati remoteFeb 01 17:58
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schestowitzhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/climate-historical-dataFeb 01 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.metoffice.gov.uk | Climate and historic data - Met OfficeFeb 01 18:18
schestowitzhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/climate-historic/Feb 01 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.metoffice.gov.uk | UK climate - Historic station data - Met OfficeFeb 01 18:18
schestowitzhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/about/archivesFeb 01 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.metoffice.gov.uk | Met Office historic UK climate records - Met OfficeFeb 01 18:20
abeNd-orghrm... what is up with my ISPFeb 01 18:33
abeNd-orgbilling cycle total usage : 181.81 Gb todayFeb 01 18:34
abeNd-org215.82 Gb 3 days ago....Feb 01 18:34
schestowitzdid you use that up?Feb 01 18:43
schestowitzmaybe error in the web gui/backendFeb 01 18:44
schestowitzif you can download 10gb per hour, that's not a bad ISPFeb 01 18:44
schestowitzGB in 6 minuted on averageFeb 01 18:44
schestowitz*minutesFeb 01 18:44
schestowitzbut unless you stream HD 24/7, what can that be useful for?Feb 01 18:45
schestowitz6 TB in a month?Feb 01 18:45
abeNd-orgno, 300 Gb hard limit a monthFeb 01 18:49
abeNd-orgbut somehow my total usage has gone down in the last few daysFeb 01 18:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peeters_kris1/status/694224217315905538 https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/694230373136490496  https://twitter.com/AmadeoVH/status/694230660534398977 https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/694232324330930177Feb 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peeters_kris1: .@AmChamBE: “Belgium’s image lies in hands of Americans doing business in BE and Belgians working for US companies” #WordtoMouth #begovFeb 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @peeters_kris1 @AmChamBE jammer dat ondanks onderzoeken nog steeds geen voordelen aan TTIP ontdekt zijn. #Democratie #Schande #LeugensFeb 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AmadeoVH: @pinguinpatje @peeters_kris1 @AmChamBE Volgens mij wel hoor. Vrije handel misschien ?Feb 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @AmadeoVH @peeters_kris1 @AmChamBE @glynmoody Moody, @schestowitz 2 interessante mensen om te volgen.Geen voordelen voor burgers.Feb 01 18:55
schestowitz"Moody, @schestowitz 2 interesting people to follow. No benefits for citizens."Feb 01 18:55
cubexyzmy upload speed is rather crappyFeb 01 18:58
schestowitzhttp://dazeinfo.com/2010/06/22/superstitions-across-different-countries-an-overview/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Superstitions_by_country_or_regionFeb 01 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dazeinfo.com | Superstitions across different countries - An Overview - DazeinfoFeb 01 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Category:Superstitions by country or region - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 01 19:06
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454349464783#c1907524334895974030Feb 01 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz The Pigs,Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzYes, but... You are paying for an intellectual property RIGHT so that you are paying a sum for something to which you have a legal right. You are not buying a good to which a VAT is attached but rather for a legal service. The current UK govt. has attached a charge (or tax) to using the courts and that has met with opprobrium from one and all. Meanwhile IP can only be obtained at a cost. That is a tax on innovation. Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz @No taxation without...Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzHow is innovation taxed?Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzOnly the desire to be granted a monopoly is fined, by a) disclosure of the (alleged) invention, and b) fees for upholding the monopoly (renewal fees).Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzIt's not a tax, IMHO, as one can easily avoid it (by not requesting a monopoly).Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzWheher one wants to pay the "fine" for a monopoly in turn is s.th. the owner of the intellectual knowledge mst decide, depending on circumstances, which we do not need to elaborate here.Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzIf a monopoly is granted, pricing is done, which will include an element of the costs of having obtaind the patent, and the knowledge of being alone on the market. Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 19:20
cubexyz"Microsoft is now actively hostile to the end user"Feb 01 19:22
cubexyzcouldn't agree moreFeb 01 19:22
schestowitzsource?Feb 01 19:53
cubexyzhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/01/31/2359234/microsoft-edges-private-browsing-mode-isnt-actually-privateFeb 01 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Microsoft Edge's Private Browsing Mode Isn't Actually Private - SlashdotFeb 01 19:56
cubexyzanonymous coward, search on "indifference"Feb 01 19:56
cubexyzcould even be a microsoft person saying itFeb 01 19:56
MinceRsurprise, surpriseFeb 01 20:03
schestowitzglad to see them being exposedFeb 01 20:05
schestowitzpeople will come to realisation that no matter what Microsoft says, it's lying, and there's no such thing as privacy at MicrosoftFeb 01 20:05
schestowitzand maybe then they'll realise they need to move to gnu/linux, except ubuntu pre-16.04 (has spyware)Feb 01 20:06
cubexyzI've seen more CrOS in the logs of lateFeb 01 20:09
cubexyzthere's still a lot NT 5.1 which I think is XPFeb 01 20:10
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36077/Feb 01 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: E.E.E. is what the corporations are all about.: Guest Article: Introduction to Microsoft’s Growing Role in the R Project Through the Linux Foundation and E.E.E.Feb 01 20:11
schestowitz"Mac OS X is indeed another terrific example why the GPL is better than a BSD licence. You can cannibalize BSD code, but you can't do the same with GPL code. Mac OS X is built from Darwin, their own port of FreeBSD. "Feb 01 20:11
schestowitz"Feb 01 20:12
schestowitzI couldn't immediately find the web page for the current release open source license list:Feb 01 20:12
schestowitzhttp://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/Feb 01 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.opensource.apple.com | Mac OS X 10.6 - SourceFeb 01 20:12
schestowitzHowever, on this list -- which isn't going to be too far from the included list in any newer OS -- the GPL is called out at least 70 times.Feb 01 20:12
schestowitzMacOSX includes BSD, Apache, and GPL code. And so does every GNU/Linux distro.Feb 01 20:12
schestowitzAgain, I'm not arguing that GPL code is going to disappear from the planet... far from it. The GPL code base will continue to grow. However, it is very likely that as FOSS becomes a larger component of commercial systems, the GPL code and the 'FOSS-ness' of the end product will be hidden as much as possible. This isn't FUD at all. It has been happening all along, and seems to now be the obvious goal of the "Linux Foundation"Feb 01 20:12
schestowitz"Feb 01 20:12
cubexyzFOSS will not disappear thoughFeb 01 20:12
cubexyztoo many people writing it for it to vanishFeb 01 20:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/694242561104461824Feb 01 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @yorickdupon @Smienos @Microsoftbe @FOSSpatents @glynmoody @schestowitz even wat Google werk doen man!Feb 01 20:15
schestowitz2https://twitter.com/yorickdupon/status/694242235282538496Feb 01 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@yorickdupon: @Smienos @pinguinpatje @Microsoftbe @FOSSpatents @glynmoody @schestowitz het grappige aan dit is dat dit Nokia niks met MS te maken heeftFeb 01 20:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 right for you? https://t.co/HipASPY6a7Feb 01 20:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GPIO Zero and Raspberry Pi programming starterFeb 01 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GPIO Zero and Raspberry Pi programming starter projects | Tux MachinesFeb 01 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 Benefits of Using Open Source Software inFeb 01 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Government (Industry Perspective)Feb 01 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Benefits of Using Open Source Software in Government (Industry Perspective) | Tux MachinesFeb 01 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SMARC COM runs Linux or Android on quad coreFeb 01 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SMARC COM runs Linux or Android on quad core AM437x | Tux MachinesFeb 01 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Celebrating 15 Years of SELinuxFeb 01 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Celebrating 15 Years of SELinux | Tux MachinesFeb 01 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Pushes Firefox 45 Into Beta, PromisesFeb 01 21:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Pushes Firefox 45 Into Beta, Promises GTK3 Integration for Linux, Again | Tux MachinesFeb 01 21:16
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schestowitzhttp://fossbytes.com/your-smartphone-can-be-hacked-due-to-a-backdoor-in-your-processor/Feb 01 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Your Smartphone Can Be Hacked Due To A Backdoor In Your ProcessorFeb 01 21:22
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MinceRhttp://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/features-are-faultsFeb 01 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tedunangst.com | features are faultsFeb 01 21:48
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454346803303#c834737486684226234Feb 01 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 01 22:25
schestowitz"Feb 01 22:25
schestowitz Letter of MEP A. Jongerius to European Commissioner Thyssen (Employment & Social affairs). I'm sure English translation will follow soon, the original is in Dutch.Feb 01 22:25
schestowitzhttp://www.epsu.org/IMG/pdf/Brief_Arbeidsconflict_Europees_Octrooibureau.pdf Feb 01 22:25
schestowitz"Feb 01 22:25
schestowitzCan anyone here speak Dutch? Double Dutch? ;-)Feb 01 22:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla News (Dr. Karim Lakhani, Caribou Digital) | Tux MachinesFeb 01 22:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux and FOSS Events (LCA 2016, OpenStackFeb 01 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Summit Austin) https://t.co/WkDXSi92PvFeb 01 22:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and FOSS Events (LCA 2016, OpenStack Summit Austin) | Tux MachinesFeb 01 22:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BSD Impact: LLVM, Haiku OSFeb 01 22:28
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schestowitz"you see microsoft is running the US election with their software on the voting machines"Feb 02 01:08
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2016/02/01/microsoft-infiltrates-us-politics/Feb 02 01:08
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msb_Discrimination against Linux users!  About a week ago the UI fonts -- menus, etc, not page content --  in Firefox suddenly became too small to read without a magnifier program.  I was using this Firefox add-on to adjust the font size, but the author suddenly removed Linux support:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/theme-font-size-changer/   I googled the problem, found a fix on this page, and posted a review on the add-on Feb 02 01:39
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msb_page so other Linux users could see it.  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/947261  Today I looked at the add-on page and found that my review had been removed!  Another review said that all reviews critical for non-support  of Linux were being removed.  I reposted my review and added a threat at the end saying that I would report the add-on author to Mozilla if he removed it again.     Feb 02 01:39
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schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36077/Feb 02 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: E.E.E. is what the corporations are all about.: Guest Article: Introduction to Microsoft’s Growing Role in the R Project Through the Linux Foundation and E.E.E.Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz"Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz> However, on this list -- which isn't going to be too far from the included list in any newer OS -- the GPL is called out at least 70 times.Feb 02 01:49
schestowitzThat's really interesting. Some of those are libraries. I'm assuming that the only code that is linking to them are GPL utilities. It would be a bit embarassing if Apple code was linking to GPL stuff.Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz"Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz"It would be more than embarassing, it would mean that some of the Apple code all of a sudden became GPL. You can't reverse your decision once you ship your product with GPL code included. It's a done deal. "Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz"Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz    GCC FAQ wrote:Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz        2.2 So any program which uses libstdc++ falls under the GPL?Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz    No. The special exception permits use of the library in proprietary applications.Feb 02 01:49
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7003975Feb 02 10:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694483595453423616https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694483595453423616Feb 02 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz it's a shame really. Great technology that got hijacked and ruined. Its part of how Microsoft damages computing in general,Feb 02 11:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694485324878184448Feb 02 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz @LinuxVeda indeed the reason why so many were fooled by this bit of satire is that it is entirely plausible about himFeb 02 11:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/694479240474017792Feb 02 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jono Bacon urges users to ditch Linux and move to Mac OS X https://t.co/9FCzedCqLa satire, although like Mac Asay, plausibleFeb 02 11:40
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amarsh04Firefox 44 is bad enough, noticably slower than 43.0.4 in DebianFeb 02 12:15
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gde33ye :(Feb 02 12:46
gde33I was pondering a semi break away society of open source developers. Pick a cheap as dirt location, implement utlities, (drinking water, electricity, solar heat etc), a hospital, farms, food and drink processing, community kitchen, minimalistic housing, big servers and a bunch of minimalistic terminalsFeb 02 12:51
gde33then just scale the thing to make stuff workFeb 02 12:52
gde33ideally all the purchases are paid in advance and enough income is generated to do maintanance (think small)Feb 02 12:52
gde33if there are no bills to pay, we can just write software for funFeb 02 12:53
gde33eat when hungry, sleep when tired, get drunk when you need toFeb 02 12:53
gde33the amish are doing it without much technologyFeb 02 12:54
gde33with almost unlimited software development resources amazing things can be done with relatively poor roboticsFeb 02 12:54
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gde33building the plant nursing robot is not hard, the hard part is making sense of the data, chosing and implementing the right actionsFeb 02 12:55
gde33There would be some citizens (hereon refered to as coders) with some money to burn (could be small) and some who will need to do a commercial project at times to sustain the whole.Feb 02 12:57
gde33A friend of mine made a deal with a vacation cabin exploitant in tailand, he paid 1400 euro for 12 months including cleaning, laundry and breakfast.Feb 02 12:58
gde33the guy was actually happy to have a familiar face on his land, one could probably get the deal for < 1000Feb 02 13:00
gde33with some internet cafe-ish hardware you can have a ton of terminals on the cheapFeb 02 13:02
gde33I imagine it totally doable to have western quality of life for 1 euro per day, if we can produce code that would cost millions in a commerical setting the whole society should be sustainable as fuck :PFeb 02 13:04
gde33it could also work wonderfuly as a tourist magnetFeb 02 13:06
gde33spain seems a cool place for this, land is cheap as fuck, water isn't to easy but when you get it farming scales along with itFeb 02 13:13
gde33it also isn't to primitive, it is even in the EUFeb 02 13:13
gde33weather is greatFeb 02 13:13
oiaohm gde33 there is many levels of interesting.   From what is done in parts of Australia with auqaponics question if land is even required.Feb 02 13:14
gde33oiaohm: it isn'tFeb 02 13:14
gde33oiaohm: most interesting is using actually modern tech as opposed to maintaining very old infrastructureFeb 02 13:15
gde33there are lots, like nanotech water filters and/or using coloids combined with uv etc etcFeb 02 13:16
gde33aquaphonics is as easy as floating crates with vegitables on a basin holding fishFeb 02 13:17
gde33as long as the fish are healthy the crops growFeb 02 13:17
gde33I think the most common mistake in urban planning is to hide everything underground and inside wallsFeb 02 13:18
gde33its cheap and it works, until you have to fix something, then you just have to cut open the walls, strip out the road and start diggingFeb 02 13:19
gde33which is almost as expensive as a new installFeb 02 13:19
oiaohmhttp://www.motherearthnews.com/renewable-energy/other-renewables/biogas-generator-zm0z14aszrob.aspx  making power that is not solar based is not complex.Feb 02 13:20
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gde33oiaohm: yeah, just one exampleFeb 02 13:20
gde33overal shit holds more accessable energy than the animal or human eating it could ever produceFeb 02 13:21
oiaohmBasically aquaponics combind with biogas and you are off to a flying start.Feb 02 13:21
gde33the only challange I see that requires scale is getting medical care up to standardsFeb 02 13:21
gde33but howmany people would just love to live some place simply and write code all day?Feb 02 13:22
oiaohmComputer gear and other nm based techs are not cheap to make.Feb 02 13:22
gde33have the head room to actually focus on the codeFeb 02 13:22
gde33oiaohm: not sure, howmany terminals can one hook up to one decent server?Feb 02 13:22
oiaohmgde33: building code is not a light process.Feb 02 13:23
gde3321 inch screens in bulk probably cost 3 euro eachFeb 02 13:23
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gde33oiaohm: how do you mean?Feb 02 13:23
oiaohmWhen developing code you need to rebuild your patches to make sure you have a working solution.Feb 02 13:23
oiaohmBasically making somewhere to live with decent food and power for general living is not hard.Feb 02 13:24
oiaohmMaking somewhere the resources to support full time coding development is harder.Feb 02 13:24
gde33in general I think having a few powerful servers and lots of smallish work stations should be cheaper than everyone building their own systemFeb 02 13:24
gde33oiaohm: I cant disagree with thatFeb 02 13:25
gde33but when you get it to work, what kind of value do we have?Feb 02 13:25
gde33it is hard to express in money of courseFeb 02 13:25
oiaohmThe reality is running server for 4 hours will consume the power to cook your food for the day.Feb 02 13:25
gde33certainlyFeb 02 13:26
oiaohmMedical doing advanced testing is as bad as running 2 to 3 servers. Feb 02 13:26
oiaohmIts all these things that add up in power consume very quickly.Feb 02 13:27
gde33what kind of scale do you think to be required?Feb 02 13:27
gde33should it involve hundreds, thousands or hundreds of thousands of people?Feb 02 13:27
oiaohmLot of the issue is wasted space.   You think of how many places have roofs with no plants or gas generators on them.Feb 02 13:28
oiaohmBasic food and basic power is doable with current tech.Feb 02 13:29
gde33I imagine huge advantage in having your bed as close as possible to the place where the project is discussed Feb 02 13:29
gde33while still having reasonable privacy of courseFeb 02 13:29
oiaohmgde33: also remember using robotics come at a power cost.Feb 02 13:30
gde33today a place with a lot of sun would be preferableFeb 02 13:30
oiaohmThe reality in power usage you would be better to have few people who job is just to look after the food.Feb 02 13:30
gde33maybe in the future cold would be more beneficalFeb 02 13:30
gde33oh of course, all software development is not a great ideaFeb 02 13:31
gde33some people just want to cook, which is greatFeb 02 13:31
gde33I wonder to what extend hype can be leveraged, it might just be that a lot of big tech companies want in in some wayFeb 02 13:32
gde33we should be happy to write some code for them if there is no pressureFeb 02 13:32
oiaohmBasic food and basic power should be scalable to city/country size populations.   Biogas basic power is being very effective with waste handling.Feb 02 13:33
gde33some british project is using old cows for biogasFeb 02 13:33
gde33very little biomass cant go into the tankFeb 02 13:34
gde33what other low effort revenue streams are there?Feb 02 13:34
gde33could say, have people giving speeches at a variable rateFeb 02 13:35
gde33consider everything research data? have outsiders pay for access (or put their man inside)Feb 02 13:37
gde33biogas researchFeb 02 13:37
gde33I recently learn that government control was suppose to be a step in communism not at all the end goalFeb 02 13:38
gde33the idea was originally to move decision making as far down the hierarchy as possibleFeb 02 13:39
gde33but most software development seems to work best with a benevolent dictatorFeb 02 13:40
oiaohmgde33: note the one thing I did not mention because for land based it not exactly easy.   Water Feb 02 13:42
gde33I'm most curious what developers will come up with when whole system engineering takes on the whole of society :)Feb 02 13:42
gde33oiaohm: the [propriatry] nanotech filters are now doing 100% using only gravity Feb 02 13:42
oiaohmgde33: not filtering the water getting the water.Feb 02 13:43
oiaohmgde33: remember land based you have droughts.Feb 02 13:43
gde33true but that depends on the locationFeb 02 13:43
gde33there has to be a sweet spot where land is cheap as fuck while water is still obtainableFeb 02 13:43
gde33I hear in ghana such places can be found just outside remarkably western modern city centersFeb 02 13:44
gde33city centers where prices are like expensive western citiesFeb 02 13:44
oiaohmand you need to add on land cheap and water still obtainable and not a war zone.Feb 02 13:44
gde33ofcFeb 02 13:45
oiaohmLot of places that have human violence problems is cheap.Feb 02 13:45
gde33I'm afraid the level of weaponization has to be considered :/Feb 02 13:45
gde33spain seems okay, can buy ancient houses carved out of mountains thereFeb 02 13:46
gde33no one cares for it but they are ready made rooms and can be expandedFeb 02 13:47
oiaohmI have look at this problem over and over and I end up coming back to need a large ship.   Why large ship you can move away from conflit areas without having to redo everything.Feb 02 13:47
gde33I've pondered that tooFeb 02 13:47
gde33can do some projects for the coastal city you are at then move to the nextFeb 02 13:47
oiaohmAlso moving out of path of bad nasty weather is possible with ship.Feb 02 13:48
gde33have tourists visitFeb 02 13:48
gde33yeahFeb 02 13:48
gde33I think you are rightFeb 02 13:48
gde33big cruise ships can be supper cheap when the gold plating wears offFeb 02 13:49
oiaohmNo they are not.Feb 02 13:49
gde33compared to newFeb 02 13:49
oiaohmCruise ships when they get old they are normally structurally buggered.Feb 02 13:49
gde33I'm not an expert but I talk with a guy buying and selling thoseFeb 02 13:49
gde33often people simply cant pay maintanance anymore and have to sellFeb 02 13:49
gde33some even care more about the ship getting fixed than the moneyFeb 02 13:50
oiaohmCruise ships were not designed to have core hull structures repaired and replaced as they wear out.Feb 02 13:50
oiaohmCargo ships have the same problem.Feb 02 13:50
gde33it wont be easy picking the right boatFeb 02 13:50
gde33on the up side, all the work you do on it adds to her value, it is usual for ships to have an accurate log about these thingsFeb 02 13:51
gde33one might also consider using the ship for the purpose it was desinged forFeb 02 13:53
oiaohmYou have to remember lot of the old wooden ships have a lot longer lifespan than modern ship designs due to how much of the ship could be replaced without scrapping them.Feb 02 13:54
gde33adds a lot of charm tooFeb 02 13:55
gde33or a fleet of boats?Feb 02 13:56
gde33if we take a random offer http://www.woodenships.co.uk/sailing-yachts/danish-gaff-ketch/Feb 02 13:56
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gde3350 k for 10 peopleFeb 02 13:56
gde33(in british pounds)Feb 02 13:57
gde33also interesting is the price difference between countries depending on the kind of workFeb 02 13:58
gde33can have turks build the interior for 50 euro per week, they are not very good at the rest but hard to beat thereFeb 02 13:59
oiaohmgde33: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constitution   A ship over 200 years old and still in dayly usage.Feb 02 14:01
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gde33one pretty boatFeb 02 14:01
oiaohmgde33: basically a well designed ship for repair will last a down right long time.Feb 02 14:01
oiaohmA general cruise and cargo ship have operation life of between 25 to 30 years.Feb 02 14:02
gde33legal stuff also gets much easier on the waterFeb 02 14:02
oiaohmBefore they start becoming not sea worthy.Feb 02 14:02
oiaohmDealing with waves basically does a number on a structure if you cannot replace parts.Feb 02 14:03
gde33when they are not sea worthy anymore that doesn't make them uselessFeb 02 14:04
oiaohmgde33: not sea worthy means you cannot move any more.Feb 02 14:04
gde33here in the netherlands we have quite a lot of old clunkers on the ijselmeerFeb 02 14:04
gde33there was a time when you could get a ship shortened for free (price of scrap metal)Feb 02 14:05
oiaohmOnce they cannot move under the own power then end up more expensive to move to sell as scrap than they are worth as scrap.Feb 02 14:05
msb_There can be problems with nearby governments.Feb 02 14:06
gde33it isn't a viable thing to offer anymore but a lot of old ships got cut downFeb 02 14:06
oiaohmThink how old those ships you are calling old clunkers really are.Feb 02 14:06
gde33msb_: true, but nothing like expecting people to do farm work for free (if that situation arrises)Feb 02 14:07
oiaohmMost would turn out to be quite youngFeb 02 14:07
msb_!google libertarian tongaFeb 02 14:07
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gde33oiaohm: indeed, they can go for a few more hundred yearsFeb 02 14:07
oiaohmgde33: well designed ship should have many hundred years of active usage.Feb 02 14:08
gde33oiaohm: if it is designed to be 50 meters long but is only 25 the level of overengineering is 100% :PFeb 02 14:08
oiaohmgde33: there are 100 year old boats that compete in the sidney to hobart.   Yes a sail boat race.Feb 02 14:09
gde33thinking about it, metal seems quite the drama, they seem to be painting and scrubbing the year roundFeb 02 14:09
oiaohmgsydney to hobart.Feb 02 14:09
oiaohmgde33: cheap metal alloy is part of problem.   using forms of steel that rust and put in sea is not planing for long life.Feb 02 14:10
gde33oiaohm: the question remains: how big should each/the boat be? howmany people to make the project show up in the media?Feb 02 14:10
oiaohmTo work out size of boat require most likely means starting making the functional systems on land.Feb 02 14:12
msb_It's a great idea, but if some corporation, e.g., Microsoft or Apple, didn't like the competition, they could accuse (via a cutout) the community of some "crime" -- pirating movies or growing cannabis -- and have the nearest government go in and destroy the  place.Feb 02 14:12
oiaohmThen working out how to fit them into ship.Feb 02 14:12
gde33oiaohm: make it scale depending on the number of shipmates?Feb 02 14:14
oiaohmgde33: exactly.Feb 02 14:14
oiaohmgde33: stupid thing is a larger cargo ship does not have a larger operational crew or maintenance team.Feb 02 14:15
msb_Read _Island_, by Aldous Huxley.Feb 02 14:16
oiaohmgde33: so there has to be a figure of crew + other personal that equal magic figure.Feb 02 14:16
oiaohmgde33: light crime is a minor idea for making money having a ship.  http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/floating-casino-draws-singaporeans-who-loath-to-pay-100-levy-at-homeFeb 02 14:19
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oiaohmgde33: basically you need a ship bigger than what you need to live so you can trade to get items you cannot make.Feb 02 14:25
gde33some boats here are chartered for corporate training, that also brings in quite the crazy feesFeb 02 14:25
gde33if we are going to build cubicals anywayFeb 02 14:25
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gde33conferance rooms are probably unavoidable tooFeb 02 14:25
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schestowitzwhy is the internet so broken today?Feb 02 18:13
schestowitzincluding bt...Feb 02 18:13
schestowitzand lots of sites I visit...Feb 02 18:14
schestowitzhttp://tuxmachines.orgFeb 02 18:14
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cubexyzcheck your routerFeb 02 18:14
schestowitznot just me  thoughFeb 02 18:14
schestowitzmaybe a routing issue, not impossibleFeb 02 18:14
schestowitztesting... http://tuxmachines.org/galleryFeb 02 18:14
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schestowitzfast response, so it's just me thenFeb 02 18:14
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cubexyzfound a book which folks may find of interestFeb 02 18:57
cubexyz"Reliability of Computer Systems and Networks: Fault Tolerance, Analysis, and Design"Feb 02 18:59
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cubexyzoiaohm might have looked into reliability engineering'Feb 02 19:19
cubexyzit's an interesting subjectFeb 02 19:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/694600137767788544Feb 02 19:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PrivateEyeNews: It's a no brainer! Eye 1411, on its way to shops and subscribers now. https://t.co/1HGrmfIkZXFeb 02 19:20
cubexyzI'd love to find a service manual for cdrom drivesFeb 02 19:22
cubexyzthere was ECC, it's an old ideaFeb 02 19:24
cubexyzit used to be common, the IBM PC had ECC memory and this seems to have ended in the early 1990sFeb 02 19:25
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amarsh04has there been much reaction to the publication of this story? http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 02 19:39
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msb_cubexyz: When high-capacity (1024 bits and up) refreshed-capacitor semiconductor Feb 02 19:56
msb_RFeb 02 19:57
msb_RAM first came out, there was a lot of concern about bit errors due to alpha particles in the packaging.Feb 02 19:57
msb_So when I specified RAM boards for minicomputers I included ECC.Feb 02 19:58
msb_But I don't think my IBM-PC had it.  The problem had been solved by that time.Feb 02 19:58
msb_As RAM capacity and speed increased through the years, I was always surprised that random bit flips didn't become a problem, but they never have (even without ECC).Feb 02 20:01
msb_Maybe the IBM-PC had a parity bit, that would tell you about an error, but couldn't fix it.  Maybe populating those extra chips was an option.Feb 02 20:02
amarsh04http://mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.htmlFeb 02 20:05
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sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR cubexyz Sosumi XFaCE oiaohm msb_ pingFeb 02 20:12
*XRevan86 feels left out.Feb 02 20:13
msb_XRevan86: Our socialist candidate Bernie Sanders did well in the first pre-primary election, tying machine Democrat Clinton 50-50.Feb 02 20:15
XRevan86msb_: social-democrat, you wanted to say?Feb 02 20:15
XRevan86(at max)Feb 02 20:15
msb_He just says "socialist".Feb 02 20:15
msb_But he's not seeking to convert the economy.Feb 02 20:16
msb_He does advocate free university education, and maybe medical care, I'm not sure.Feb 02 20:17
XRevan86msb_: That's social democracy.Feb 02 20:17
msb_OKFeb 02 20:17
XRevan86Which would be a big step for US, if Sanders really is a nice guy :).Feb 02 20:17
msb_He seems to be -- very consistent over many years, and has a very sincere manner.Feb 02 20:18
msb_sebsebseb: HiFeb 02 20:19
cubexyzsome of the PDP-11s had ECC memoryFeb 02 20:20
cubexyzcan't remember which ones.... after mag core certainlyFeb 02 20:20
msb_Sure.  So did Data General Eclipse.Feb 02 20:21
XRevan86msb_: My suspicion works kind of like "if he's such a nice chap, why is he still alive?"Feb 02 20:21
msb_HeFeb 02 20:21
msb_He's still alive because he's not in power yet, except as a senator.Feb 02 20:22
XRevan86and politically aliveFeb 02 20:22
msb_The CIA is probably programming "lone nuts" as we speak.Feb 02 20:22
cubexyzis Sanders getting much TV coverage?Feb 02 20:23
msb_"Regime change" for the US.Feb 02 20:23
msb_About 1/20th of Rump's coverage on US corporate TV.Feb 02 20:24
MinceRhttp://blog.dilbert.com/post/138541628036/news-flash-cartoonist-gets-one-wrong#_=_Feb 02 20:24
msb_RT features him a lot.Feb 02 20:24
MinceR"As I was having these thoughts last night, some folks on Twitter mentioned that Republicans were using a new Microsoft app to tally results. Apparently that system was a bit buggy. Microsoft provided the system for free. Feb 02 20:24
MinceROh, and Microsoft is Rubio’s biggest donor. "Feb 02 20:24
cubexyzshades of Diebold :)Feb 02 20:25
XRevan86Rump is an US plagiat of Zhirinovsky.Feb 02 20:25
MinceRindeedFeb 02 20:25
cubexyzalthough I can't remember if Microsoft had anything to do with DieboldFeb 02 20:25
MinceRthey're both criminal organizationsFeb 02 20:25
XRevan86Oh, Zhirinovsky, who else would suggest to bomb US?Feb 02 20:25
cubexyzTrump is just a big fakeFeb 02 20:26
cubexyzsays whatever he thinks people want to hearFeb 02 20:26
MinceRwe've got lots of thoseFeb 02 20:27
XRevan86cubexyz: Not quite.Feb 02 20:27
msb_They all do that, except Sanders.Feb 02 20:27
MinceRhow do you know he isn't?Feb 02 20:27
XRevan86cubexyz: He seems to just be a political clown.Feb 02 20:28
cubexyzXRevan86, well yes, we can agree on that :)Feb 02 20:28
cubexyzhe's not astute enough to be a good liarFeb 02 20:28
msb_MinceR: If you mean Sanders, he's been advocating the same policies for many years, even when they've been unpopular.Feb 02 20:29
cubexyzisn't Sanders a bit old to become prez?Feb 02 20:29
*XRevan86 seeks for Zhirinovsky citations, but that's boringFeb 02 20:30
XRevan86I'd better go to YouTubeFeb 02 20:30
cubexyzReagan was 69 when electedFeb 02 20:30
MinceRmsb_: were those policies unpopular in the demographic that supports him now?Feb 02 20:30
cubexyzeven Hillary Clinton is up there at 69 years oldFeb 02 20:32
msb_That demographic has become much more leftish.Feb 02 20:32
MinceRicFeb 02 20:32
MinceRalso, i wonder if Sanders has a plan how to fight his party in congressFeb 02 20:32
msb_Sanders is 74.  But he does look a bit frail.  That worries me.Feb 02 20:32
MinceRhe may become president, but his party is still in the pockets of the megacorporationsFeb 02 20:33
MinceRand afaik he can't make law without congressFeb 02 20:33
XRevan86https://youtu.be/wd0tdVjyMvE?t=3m29s something like thatFeb 02 20:33
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cubexyzyeah it's becoming a corporatocracyFeb 02 20:35
msb_He can advocate good legislation to the people, and ad hoc polls can be taken showing they back it, and so shaming the machine Democrats.Feb 02 20:35
cubexyzand I include Canada in that tooFeb 02 20:35
cubexyzI can't buy a FTA PVR in my city which is ridiculousFeb 02 20:35
cubexyzdumb sales guy: You got Bell or Rogers?Feb 02 20:36
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cubexyzlook at income inequalityFeb 02 20:37
cubexyzCEO's get big bucks, workers salaries are stagnantFeb 02 20:37
cubexyzfactor in inflation and you have declining wages and benefits since the 1970sFeb 02 20:38
msb_It's all based on the 9-11 false-flag and the islamic terrorists initiated by the US in the 1980s.  Then the US attacks on Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Ukraine.  All these wars drive people to the right, which is where the ultra-wealthy want them.Feb 02 20:38
msb_The 21st Century would have been a jubilee, but was hijacked by those fascist moves.Feb 02 20:39
schestowitzamarsh04: http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/?comments=1Feb 02 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh25z ]Feb 02 20:39
schestowitz"Feb 02 20:39
schestowitzI'd figure the other EU bodies would relish the opportunity bring the EPO under their authority, as such I'm amazed by how they appear to have behaved (plenty of ammo provided above).Feb 02 20:39
schestowitzI suppose this story provides a good lesson as to why you need to get treaties right at the beginning otherwise you're stuck with them for a long long time Feb 02 20:39
schestowitz"Feb 02 20:39
schestowitz" That sounds kind of scary... Somehow being outside all of this here in switzerland doesn't feel too bad anymore... (If only switzerland were actually outside all of this, we are apparently EPO members too) "Feb 02 20:39
msb_Every time I see "EPOnia" I think of Elbonia.Feb 02 20:40
msb_The Dilbert country where people live in mud.Feb 02 20:40
XRevan86Russian for Japan is Yaponia.Feb 02 20:41
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/bank-asset-concentration-in-us-1997-2012.pngFeb 02 20:41
XRevan86msb_: I suspect creators of Dilbert series hate Albania.Feb 02 20:42
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msb_Does Albania have the wheel and fire yet?Feb 02 20:44
cubexyzAlbania was communist for a whileFeb 02 20:45
cubexyzso their GDP is increasingFeb 02 20:45
cubexyzbut according to statistics, 10.3% are below poverty lineFeb 02 20:46
XRevan86It was pretty much like NK, IIRC.Feb 02 20:46
cubexyzevidently they have lots of oil depositsFeb 02 20:46
XRevan86Political isolation total.Feb 02 20:47
msb_I'm sure 10% or more of USians are below the poverty line.Feb 02 20:51
XRevan86msb_: How dumb it is to be poor. They should get up and get education in a paid university. Oh, wait...Feb 02 20:52
cubexyzI think the Socialist Party of Albania is currently in power thereFeb 02 20:52
msb_Oil prices have recently gone very low.Feb 02 20:54
cubexyzXRevan86, what percentage of people in Albanian have internet access?Feb 02 20:55
cubexyzAlbaniaFeb 02 20:56
MinceRelbonia makes me think of hungaristanFeb 02 20:56
msb_The entire world capitalist economy is in a mess.  There are hundreds of trillions of dollars of "derivatives" being bought and sold, far greater than the GDP of the entire world.  If that bubble ever   pops it will be like a nuclear attack on the world economy.Feb 02 20:56
MinceRjust as nasty and backwardsFeb 02 20:56
XRevan86cubexyz: I spilled all I know about Albania. And that it's past.Feb 02 20:56
cubexyzok, Albania isn't too bad on internet access... says here it's 54.66% in 2012Feb 02 20:57
cubexyzon the other hand Afghanistan is 5.45%Feb 02 20:58
cubexyzHungary: 72%Feb 02 20:58
cubexyzRussia: 53.27%Feb 02 20:58
cubexyzUS: 81.03%Feb 02 20:58
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XRevan86Good moment to get cut of from Internet :).Feb 02 21:01
XRevan86off*Feb 02 21:02
msb_cubexyz: I think a lot of that increase in bank wealth is due to the repeal of the Glass-Steagle Act under the _Democratic Party_ Clinton administration,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Legislation  It had prevented banks from getting involved in stocks, derivatives, and the criminality that led to the 2008 crash.Feb 02 21:03
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XRevan86cubexyz: Another thing about Albania: it's a NATO member now.Feb 02 21:04
cubexyzyes, I saw thatFeb 02 21:04
cubexyzGlass-Steagle was repealed in 1999Feb 02 21:07
cubexyzseems a terrible ideaFeb 02 21:07
cubexyzrepealing itFeb 02 21:07
msb_And now we had Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, overseeing the destruction of the very prosperous Social Democratic nation of Libya, and gloating on TV, regarding Gaddafi -- "We came, we saw, he died"  I can't imagine voting for that psychopath for President.  She also looks totally insane.Feb 02 21:09
msb_The US/NATO attack on Libya was in 2011.Feb 02 21:09
msb_she also declared last night that she had won the Iowa caucuses vote, despite actually being tied with Sanders within 0.3%.  He's demanding a recount.Feb 02 21:13
MinceRthere are worse things about herFeb 02 21:13
msb_Do tell.Feb 02 21:13
MinceRlike how outraged she was about leaks about the nastiness ongoing in the us governmentFeb 02 21:13
MinceRshe's against transparencyFeb 02 21:13
MinceRtherefore she's against democracyFeb 02 21:13
msb_Yep.Feb 02 21:14
MinceRinteresting candidate for a party that calls itself "democratic"Feb 02 21:14
msb_They sold out long ago.Feb 02 21:14
msb_"Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband made at least $30 million over the last 16 months, mainly from giving paid speeches to corporations, banks and other organizations, according to financial disclosure forms filed with federal elections officials on Friday."  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/16/us/politics/clintons-reportedly-earned-30-million-in-the-last-16-months.html?_r=1  Feb 02 21:18
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schestowitzjust managed to lower our utility bills...Feb 02 21:24
schestowitz2 machines shut downFeb 02 21:24
schestowitzthey're dead, used to be on 24/7Feb 02 21:24
msb_This is the nation that Hillary Clinton, Obama, and NATO destroyed:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek  Note the so-called "dictator" Gadaffi riding through Tripoli, standing up in an open car without protection.Feb 02 21:25
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msb_I know I keep posting that video.  To me it's the saddest result of US fascism.Feb 02 21:29
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FriendlyfriendAMAZING article in UK  http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 02 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh1uw ]Feb 02 21:39
schestowitzyeahFeb 02 21:40
schestowitzseen itFeb 02 21:40
schestowitzhelped with it, it took me months to write itFeb 02 21:40
schestowitzglad to see it all coming out in one massive lump after all this time, just need tio make sure as many people as possible read itFeb 02 21:41
schestowitzincluding British politiciansFeb 02 21:41
schestowitzI will expand on that tomorrowFeb 02 21:42
schestowitzFriendlyfriend: quick question:Feb 02 21:42
schestowitzdo you know what's up with suepo's site? I plan to write about it later tonight, lack some details Feb 02 21:42
FriendlyfriendI know, I'm surprised too. I just sent them an email. I will sms to them too.Feb 02 21:43
schestowitzthank youFeb 02 21:44
schestowitzI will publish around 1amFeb 02 21:44
schestowitzworking this week every day, so can't do muchFeb 02 21:44
schestowitzI hope Glyn Moody's article does some of the 'legwork' at the moment, bringing a lot of people up to date w.r.t. EPOniaFeb 02 21:45
FriendlyfriendWhat you do is already enough - a little ott, but thanks anyway.Feb 02 21:46
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schestowitzlots of patents-related posts on their wayFeb 02 22:29
schestowitzEPO is having a lot of trouble and UPC in possibly in trouble now, along with software patentsFeb 02 22:30
schestowitzMicrosoft and Apple wouldn't be happyFeb 02 22:30
schestowitzAll they do is sue, threaten, blackmail/extortFeb 02 22:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/694598514047897600Feb 02 22:52
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cubexyzI can't see if the IBM PC had ECC memory or not but here is a decent pic:Feb 02 22:53
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ibm-pc-motherboard-1981.jpgFeb 02 22:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel UpdatesFeb 02 22:57
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TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk    https://t.co/5ptDZ4KdZY (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 02 22:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/mNhLH0icI2Feb 02 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     14 Linux-based gifts ideas for your geekyFeb 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 valentine https://t.co/sUulDzcKc9Feb 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh2p5Feb 02 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 14 Linux-based gifts ideas for your geeky valentine | Tux MachinesFeb 02 22:57
cubexyz16kx1 DRAMFeb 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, DevsFeb 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Promise a Lot of Good Convergence FixesFeb 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/97Hc4Z7rDQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh2p9Feb 02 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, Devs Promise a Lot of Good Convergence Fixes | Tux MachinesFeb 02 22:57
cubexyzwow, 1024 bit memory must be really oldFeb 02 22:58
cubexyzthat's like magnetic core eraFeb 02 23:00
cubexyz32x32 coreFeb 02 23:00
cubexyzthe very first DRAM IC was the 1103Feb 02 23:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta,Feb 02 23:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Includes TestDisk and PhotoRec 7.0Feb 02 23:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/WdA3jb6Psm (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 02 23:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh2q9Feb 02 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta, Includes TestDisk and PhotoRec 7.0 | Tux MachinesFeb 02 23:03
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cubexyzso not too surprising, it was intel that invented the 1103 DRAMFeb 02 23:04
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cubexyzand 1 cent per bit, so each IC was about ten bucksFeb 02 23:07
cubexyz$80 per kilobyteFeb 02 23:07
cubexyz5k for 64K :)Feb 02 23:08
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/694652396874678273Feb 02 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz #EPO https://t.co/UlwesiujdjFeb 02 23:37
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schestowitz[20:25] <cubexyz> although I can't remember if Microsoft had anything to do with DieboldFeb 03 00:42
schestowitzDiebold renamedFeb 03 00:42
schestowitzto evade negative publicityFeb 03 00:42
schestowitzit also makes some stuff like ATMFeb 03 00:42
schestowitzit uses Windows for both voting and the latterFeb 03 00:42
schestowitztotal shamFeb 03 00:42
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cubexyzrightFeb 03 00:44
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cubexyzright, I should check into thatFeb 03 00:45
cubexyzdoes the US still use Diebold voting machines?Feb 03 00:56
cubexyzprobably old news but I'll post it anyways:Feb 03 00:59
cubexyzhttp://betanews.com/2016/01/28/bernie-sanders-campaign-is-right-microsoft-could-hurt-election-open-source-is-needed/Feb 03 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Bernie Sanders' campaign is right, Microsoft could hurt election -- open source is needed [ http://ur1.ca/oh348 ]Feb 03 00:59
cubexyzin Canada we use paper ballots and hand countsFeb 03 01:01
schestowitzyes, I saw trhatFeb 03 01:03
schestowitztux machines mentioned itFeb 03 01:03
schestowitzand the author retweeted me on itFeb 03 01:03
schestowitzfagioliFeb 03 01:03
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2016/02/01/microsoft-infiltrates-us-politics/Feb 03 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Infiltrates Politics and Can Engage in Election Fraud in Iowa Right Now | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/oh34w ]Feb 03 01:04
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2015/06/06/voting-systems/Feb 03 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Microsoft Squashed Free/Open Source Software in Voting Systems in the United States | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mr6v4 ]Feb 03 01:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here is why Linux is much better than WindowsFeb 03 01:21
TweetTuxMachines                 10 https://t.co/Ewk3upGVD5Feb 03 01:21
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh37fFeb 03 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here is why Linux is much better than Windows 10 | Tux MachinesFeb 03 01:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is NowFeb 03 01:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Available for Beta TestingFeb 03 01:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ISz7hPsxRK (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 01:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh37gFeb 03 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available for Beta Testing | Tux MachinesFeb 03 01:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COMFeb 03 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Express https://t.co/gt767DgLEXFeb 03 01:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COM Express | Tux MachinesFeb 03 01:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Understanding digital signage with #Screenly Feb 03 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/F5YC7Q8iCZ (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 03 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh3clFeb 03 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Digital signage with Screenly - An interview with Viktor Petersson | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 03 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Giving Silos Their Due https://t.co/Wy87jJvYSzFeb 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com) "I predicted bigFeb 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines                 successes for LOTD and Linux on the LaptopFeb 03 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Giving Silos Their Due | Linux JournalFeb 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (LOTL)"Feb 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh3cmFeb 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #uefi developers try to distance themselvesFeb 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines                 from #nsa while #redhat celebrates 15 years ofFeb 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines                 #selinux https://t.co/EGD3jUiTAn (error)Feb 03 01:58
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TweetTuxMachines@LibreOfficeVols  The LibreOffice(tm) Daily is out!Feb 03 02:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IYh71ktIF0 (paper.li) Stories viaFeb 03 02:08
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines @waman10da @johndrinkwaterFeb 03 02:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The LibreOffice™ DailyFeb 03 02:08
*TweetTuxMachines @waman10da retweeted @LibreOfficeVols: 'The LibreOffice(tm) Daily is out! https://t.co/IYh71ktIF0 Stories via...'Feb 03 02:08
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msb_!google libya pan-african currencyFeb 03 05:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Libya Was Invaded to Prevent Pan-African Currency » Alex Jones ... | http://www.infowars.com/libya-was-invaded-to-prevent-pan-african-currency/Feb 03 05:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Libya Was Invaded to Prevent Pan-African Currency | http://www.prisonplanet.com/libya-was-invaded-to-prevent-pan-african-currency.htmlFeb 03 05:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - NATO Destroyed Libya to Prevent African Gold-Backed Currency ... | http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/01/nato-destroyed-libya-to-prevent-african-gold-backed-currency/Feb 03 05:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - new hillary emails reveal propaganda, executions, coveting libyan ... | http://levantreport.com/2016/01/04/new-hillary-emails-reveal-propaganda-executions-coveting-libyan-oil-and-gold/Feb 03 05:29
msb_"One of the 3,000 Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department on New Year’s Eve (where real news is sent to die quietly) has revealed evidence that NATO’s plot to overthrow Gaddafi was fueled by first their desire to quash the gold-backed African currency, and second the Libyan oil reserves."  http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/01/nato-destroyed-libya-to-prevent-african-gold-backed-currency/#Feb 03 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-countercurrentnews.com | NATO Destroyed Libya to Prevent African Gold-Backed Currency - Counter Current NewsFeb 03 05:33
msb_googled headline seen on RT!Feb 03 05:34
msb_"this email serves as definitive proof that special forces were on the ground only within a month of the earliest protests which broke out in the middle to end of February 2011 in Benghazi.  By March 27 of what was commonly assumed a simple “popular uprising” external special operatives were already “overseeing the transfer of weapons and supplies to the rebels” including “a seemingly endless supply of AK47 assault rifles and Feb 03 05:47
msb_ammunition.”   http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/           Feb 03 05:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foreignpolicyjournal.com | Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention | Foreign Policy JournalFeb 03 05:47
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msb_There's some way to put a title on these but I canFeb 03 06:52
msb_can't figure it out.  Feel The Bern:  https://imgur.com/yPNCc7xFeb 03 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Imgur: The most awesome images on the InternetFeb 03 06:53
msb_Got it:  https://imgur.com/yPNCc7xFeb 03 06:55
msb_!botFeb 03 06:56
msb_http://imgur.com/yPNCc7xFeb 03 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Feel the Bern - ImgurFeb 03 06:56
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msb_Concerted propaganda attack against Russia by US and its allies:Feb 03 10:20
msb_US allocating $4Billion more for military in Europe to protect against "Russian aggression"Feb 03 10:20
msb_US statement saying that Russia is the most dangerous threat, ISIL fifthFeb 03 10:20
msb_New UK tv show portraying Russia invading LatviaFeb 03 10:20
msb_New tv show in Norway portraying attack by RussiaFeb 03 10:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux OperatingFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 System for Kids, Closes ShopFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Us2PrTdZ7R (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4xyFeb 03 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for Kids, Closes Shop | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as aFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Touchpad, Miracast Coming SoonFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ndYTIDszWH (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4xzFeb 03 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as a Touchpad, Miracast Coming Soon | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable)Feb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QKwJoxSMBD (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable) | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source app takes on Ebola and mentalFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 health in Liberia https://t.co/sy8PEbVGPnFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source app takes on Ebola and mental health in Liberia | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/694831956408848385Feb 03 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Must be using Cisco routers @schestowitz BT blames 'faulty router' for mega outage. https://t.co/mqNrR9WOwxFeb 03 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | BT blames 'faulty router' for mega outage. Did they try turning it off and on again? • The RegisterFeb 03 11:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ppsticino/status/694821200749527040Feb 03 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ppsticino: RT@schestowitz: #europe as a quasi US state https://t.co/rwqUUnMxJWFeb 03 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #europe as a quasi US state https://t.co/ahpX2GqvnmFeb 03 11:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Chrome Is Finally Getting SmoothFeb 03 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Scrolling on Linux https://t.co/Zdmm81XeSKFeb 03 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gaming: The Talos Principle – Road to GehennaFeb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lkpLdBGmHg (www.preining.info)Feb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #games #gnu #linuxFeb 03 11:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Samsung Hints at Feature Changes in Android N:Feb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Better Stylus Support? https://t.co/jTAc91mCg7Feb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.xda-developers.com) #android #linuxFeb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh50eFeb 03 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Samsung Hints at Feature Changes in Android N: Better Stylus Support?Feb 03 11:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/694845375379824640   https://twitter.com/01micko/status/694846133420490752Feb 03 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lordbaco: E.T. https://t.co/FlItUHWHhNFeb 03 11:35
schestowitzJolla?Feb 03 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa new puff pieces: How a 47-Year-Old NSA Cryptography Test Still Excites Amateur Alien Hunters https://t.co/jZAtM2Y1lhFeb 03 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @schestowitz I want a phone NOT tied to some conglomerate. I make calls, surf, email.Feb 03 11:35
schestowitzJolla?Feb 03 11:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/01micko/status/694846767041351681Feb 03 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @schestowitz It's dead now unfortunately. Offering refunds :-(Feb 03 11:36
schestowitzThe tablet, not the phonesFeb 03 11:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     I want this Android-powered mirror that aFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Google engineer invented in his spare timeFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/MCktVeQQqS (www.theverge.com)Feb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #android #linuxFeb 03 11:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | I want this Android-powered mirror that a Google engineer invented in his spare time | The VergeFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Opinion: Three months later, is the Nexus 6PFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 still the best Android phone?Feb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9zrfPBfv0y (9to5google.com)Feb 03 11:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9to5google.com | Opinion: Three months later, is the Nexus 6P still the best Android phone? | 9to5GoogleFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Among development tasks, one of my leastFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 favorite is benchmarking and I tend toFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 procrastinate on it" https://t.co/UTwKj7GiRpFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.labbott.name) #fedoraFeb 03 11:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crusader Kings II: Conclave expansion nowFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 available https://t.co/vL2nz3JdxPFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) #games #gnu #linuxFeb 03 12:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Crusader Kings II: Conclave expansion now available | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/eTNcsUmJmwFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh530Feb 03 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The top 10 Linux security distrosFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1gd5wL6J4L (www.itproportal.com)Feb 03 12:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | The top 10 Linux security distros | ITProPortal.comFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turing Phone Drops Android For Sailfish OS,Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Delays Launch To April, Reneging On "No LaterFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Than Q1 2016" https://t.co/g4SfYJ7NwHFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh532Feb 03 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Turing Phone Drops Android For Sailfish OS, Delays Launch To April, Reneging On "No Later Than Q1 2016" PromiseFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tough Android phablet does sensing, scanning,Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 3G https://t.co/UKysAnaIf8 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 03 12:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tough Android phablet does sensing, scanning, 3G ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 03 12:04
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for...'Feb 03 12:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Luca Toma KDE Interview https://t.co/YTKMkQSQ81Feb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (dot.kde.org)Feb 03 12:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Luca Toma KDE Interview | KDE.newsFeb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dell to ship XPS 13 Developer Edition LinuxFeb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 laptop with Skylake https://t.co/LW1LUltuQQFeb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.com)Feb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh53hFeb 03 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Dell will ship XPS 13 Developer Edition "Project Sputnik" Linux laptops with Skylake chips | PCWorldFeb 03 12:06
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msb_XRevan86: Expanse 9 and 10 (the last) are out.Feb 03 12:10
XRevan86msb_: Oh yes, wednesday. Thanks.Feb 03 12:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/kEEE5gksZ6Feb 03 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 12:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 03 12:30
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/kEEE5gksZ6'Feb 03 12:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails 2.0 Linux Distro Improves Installation,Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Gets New Look https://t.co/IyXzmKTz3EFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.eweek.com)Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh55wFeb 03 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Tails 2.0 Linux Distro Improves Installation, Gets New LookFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AndEX Live CD Now Lets Users Run Android 6.0.1Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Marshmallow on Their PCsFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AE0KelAflu (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh55xFeb 03 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AndEX Live CD Now Lets Users Run Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow on Their PCsFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Set Up The Raspberry PI ZeroFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AO9H5vj7VXFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Feb 03 12:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | How To Set Up The Raspberry PI Zero « Everyday Linux UserFeb 03 12:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AndEX Live CD Now Lets Users Run Android...'Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel UpdatesFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 for All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Ng751ACiiE (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel Updates for All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 03 12:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel Updates for All...'Feb 03 12:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     14 Linux-based gifts ideas for your geekyFeb 03 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 valentine https://t.co/hx4lTcXdMV (www.cio.com)Feb 03 12:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh568Feb 03 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | 14 Linux-based gifts ideas for your geeky valentine | CIOFeb 03 12:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, DevsFeb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Promise a Lot of Good Convergence FixesFeb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ylblYWlogl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh569Feb 03 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, Devs Promise Lots of Good Convergence FixesFeb 03 12:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, Devs Promise a...'Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta,Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Includes TestDisk and PhotoRec 7.0Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fYSIg24bsm (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | 4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta, Includes TestDisk and PhotoRec 7.0Feb 03 12:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta, Includes TestDisk and...'Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here is why Linux is much better than WindowsFeb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 10 https://t.co/9nUGnNSsIh (www.techworm.net)Feb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56kFeb 03 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Here is why Linux is much better than Windows 10 » TechWormFeb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is NowFeb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Available for Beta TestingFeb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/anLYVXYuld (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56lFeb 03 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available for Beta TestingFeb 03 12:40
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available...'Feb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COMFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Express https://t.co/YbCDYvx9DrFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 03 12:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COM Express ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Marshmallow: The smart person's guideFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FWuHYOZcjt (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56zFeb 03 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Android Marshmallow: The smart person's guide - TechRepublicFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five Android home screen launchers worthFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 checking out https://t.co/uU6vBFhQTPFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 03 12:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Five Android home screen launchers worth checking out - TechRepublicFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux OperatingFeb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines                 System for Kids, Closes ShopFeb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RikbRb3xZD (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh576Feb 03 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for Kids, Closes ShopFeb 03 12:43
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for...'Feb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as aFeb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Touchpad, Miracast Coming SoonFeb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mxOQLqRdou (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as a Touchpad, Miracast Coming SoonFeb 03 12:43
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen...'Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable)Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AWVqqe5Lgz (manjaro.github.io)Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh57yFeb 03 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable) – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityFeb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Chrome Is Finally Getting SmoothFeb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Scrolling on Linux https://t.co/EJnuJBoPW8Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh57zFeb 03 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on LinuxFeb 03 12:47
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454435598283#c8310776369025207044Feb 03 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 03 12:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 12:50
schestowitzAMAZING article in UKFeb 03 12:50
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 03 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh1uw ]Feb 03 12:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 12:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 12:50
schestowitzAMAZING article in UKFeb 03 12:50
schestowitzAmazing indeed - and judging by this article and by the tone of the recent TV reports and articles in the Dutch press, it seems the the 800.000 EUR "to address the media presence of the EPO." went down the drain.Feb 03 12:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 12:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 12:50
schestowitzPlenty more where that came from.Feb 03 12:50
schestowitzBB is dripping with cash ... Feb 03 12:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 12:50
schestowitz" Amazing article should be compulsory reading. A good summary and clear explanation of most of the facts. Staff don't get 3 months leave and the AC's rejection of BB proposals in December have been ignored "Feb 03 12:51
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on...'Feb 03 12:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/694823888887357440Feb 03 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest how do you protect yourself from trolls? You can't.Feb 03 13:17
schestowitzzoobab_: indeedFeb 03 13:18
schestowitzthey don't mention that partFeb 03 13:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SportingbetSA/status/694878752950611968Feb 03 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SportingbetSA: At this point last season after 24 games, Leicester were bottom of the league with 17 points. https://t.co/8xgbXPDQ20Feb 03 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SportingbetSA: At this point last season after 24 games, Leicester were bottom of the league with 17 points. https://t.co/8xgbXPDQ20Feb 03 13:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Kloppholic/status/694877243449937920Feb 03 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Kloppholic: Football is more than just about player quality. It's about passion, a want, mentality, and spirit. Just look at Leicester for example. #LFCFeb 03 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The top 10 Linux security distrosFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/1gd5wL6J4L (www.itproportal.com)Feb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        Feb 03 13:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | The top 10 Linux security distros | ITProPortal.comFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDEFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                 software on a stable Ubuntu baseFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K2xp9CgT1j (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5fpFeb 03 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDE software on a stable Ubuntu base | Tux MachinesFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Is Looking for Participants inFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                 "Ubuntu Apps in Unity 8" Research StudyFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/pdGEfyyGYB (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5fqFeb 03 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Canonical Is Looking for Participants in "Ubuntu Apps in Unity 8" Research StudyFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition…also ship withFeb 03 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu.” https://t.co/uZGnati3awFeb 03 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com) https://t.co/yIvDH0Y4UyFeb 03 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.com)Feb 03 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Sold with $100 Discount to Make Way for New ModelFeb 03 14:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5fsFeb 03 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Dell will ship XPS 13 Developer Edition "Project Sputnik" Linux laptops with Skylake chips | PCWorldFeb 03 14:00
*TweetTuxMachines @DailyNetBlog favourited '“Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition…also ship with Ubuntu.”...'Feb 03 14:00
*TweetTuxMachines @DailyNetBlog followed @tuxmachinesFeb 03 14:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Available for Download,Feb 03 14:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.3Feb 03 14:08
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/tgvBeViXRs (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 03 14:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5gvFeb 03 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Available for Download, Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.3Feb 03 14:08
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Available for Download, Still Powered...'Feb 03 14:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you canFeb 03 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 use Linux Mint 17.3 instead?Feb 03 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7xz32sAobk (www.zdnet.com)Feb 03 14:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5hhFeb 03 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you can use Linux Mint 17.3 instead? | ZDNetFeb 03 14:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tomb Raider Reboot from 2013 Might Arrive onFeb 03 14:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Steam for Linux https://t.co/b6qtKj4mE2Feb 03 14:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 14:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5hsFeb 03 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tomb Raider Reboot from 2013 Might Arrive on Steam for LinuxFeb 03 14:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Free-to-Play Winter Game SNOW Now Works onFeb 03 14:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/WuEMzR0zhYFeb 03 14:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 14:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Free-to-Play Winter Game SNOW Now Works on LinuxFeb 03 14:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tomb Raider Reboot from 2013 Might Arrive on...'Feb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BitTorrent Talks Encryption, Improved LinuxFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Support For Sync 2.3 https://t.co/Vl4Q57fk8jFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcper.com)Feb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5k0Feb 03 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcper.com | BitTorrent Talks Encryption, Improved Linux Support For Sync 2.3 | PC PerspectiveFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in theFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Series, Users Urged to UpdateFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HFFq2zGnDK (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5k1Feb 03 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in the Series, Users Urged to UpdateFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Devs Patch Zero-Day Linux KernelFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerability with the Latest UpdateFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mKhvW1m4XF (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5kuFeb 03 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Devs Patch Zero-Day Linux Kernel Vulnerability with the Latest UpdateFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDEFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 software on a stable Ubuntu baseFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/N7YjUuGhEY (www.pcworld.com)Feb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5kxFeb 03 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDE software on a stable Ubuntu base | PCWorldFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04Feb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS Daily Builds ISOs https://t.co/Qx86S9gRdxFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5kyFeb 03 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Daily Builds ISOsFeb 03 14:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu...'Feb 03 14:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at ScreenFeb 03 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/vzkHcu5kqSFeb 03 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 14:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5lcFeb 03 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04Feb 03 14:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen...'Feb 03 15:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you canFeb 03 15:06
TweetTuxMachines                 use Linux Mint 17.3 instead?Feb 03 15:06
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/SvxKHtqJcW (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 15:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5ohFeb 03 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ​Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you can use Linux Mint 17.3 instead? | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at ScreenFeb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/iZostNik4TFeb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5pgFeb 03 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04 | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04Feb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS Daily Builds ISOs https://t.co/PzgXnVyyUcFeb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5phFeb 03 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Daily Builds ISOs | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in theFeb 03 15:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Series, Users Urged to UpdateFeb 03 15:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/H59ME5rVwI (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 15:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5piFeb 03 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in the Series, Users Urged to Update | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top Open Source Firewalls for Small BusinessFeb 03 15:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Gu0ND5OhHo (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 15:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh5pkFeb 03 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top Open Source Firewalls for Small Business | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:12
*TweetTuxMachines @ValerieDiNuzzo followed @tuxmachinesFeb 03 15:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Is Looking for Participants in "Ubuntu Apps...'Feb 03 15:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '“Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition…also ship with Ubuntu.”...'Feb 03 15:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in...'Feb 03 15:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Devs Patch Zero-Day Linux Kernel Vulnerability with...'Feb 03 15:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu...'Feb 03 15:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen...'Feb 03 15:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in...'Feb 03 15:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The February 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOSFeb 03 15:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Magazine https://t.co/Wb00VyS0YfFeb 03 15:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 15:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The February 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux has once again dominated as the mostFeb 03 15:57
TweetTuxMachines                 commonly used operating system"Feb 03 15:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ysHPtloe77 (news.netcraft.com)Feb 03 15:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | Most Reliable Hosting Company Sites in January 2016 | NetcraftFeb 03 15:57
*TweetTuxMachines @HostUSA followed @tuxmachinesFeb 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Conference brings 560 delegates toFeb 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Geelong, prompting calls for convention centreFeb 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/r0sHTba9c2 (error)Feb 03 16:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geelongadvertiser.com.au | Category: | Geelong AdvertiserFeb 03 16:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Highlights of SCaLE 14x https://t.co/SzBMRSlI5DFeb 03 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Feb 03 16:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh627Feb 03 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Highlights of SCaLE 14x | Linux.comFeb 03 16:21
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/uV11kqGFeb 03 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | #lump2016 - ImgurFeb 03 16:26
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454512184167#c673458874124905924Feb 03 16:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 03 16:33
schestowitz" WRT amount of leave at EPO, does anyone have a link to official information on that, please? The only source I could find was Le Monde. "Feb 03 16:33
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454514160285#c7891898709204185675Feb 03 16:34
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schestowitz"Feb 03 16:34
schestowitz Confused cat,Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzThe "easy" answer is because you are not looking at the entire picture (which, when that picture is enlargened to include all payouts - including salaries - there very well may be NO increase in what you want to call "profit."Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzI post this "answer" as a hypothetical because I have not actually checked the numbers.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzHOWEVER, you raise a coincident - and NOT minor - point: How is that "productivity" being measured?Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzI would posit that any "measure" of productivity that does not take into account whether "faster" decisions maintain (or better yet, improve) a certain level of accuracy and correctness is a FALSE measure.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzI have been vocal in the states for quite a number of years pointing out that mere Rubber Stamping is bad.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzRubber Stamping is bad when the mantra is Reject Reject Reject.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzRubber Stamping is bad when the mantra is Accept Accept Accept.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzNeither mode is actually examining properly. ANY measure of productivity that omits this critical feature is simply NOT a proper measure and will only (quite naturally) lead to actions that game the system.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzWe do need to hold the leaders of Patent Offices accountable - not for gamed "productivity," but rather for true and meaningful increases in productivity. Feb 03 16:34
schestowitz"Feb 03 16:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     American Truck Simulator has an early release,Feb 03 16:39
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txtFeb 03 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat looks to establish PHL unitFeb 03 19:40
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cubexyza while back I wrote that koffice was discontinuedFeb 03 19:59
cubexyzbut actually there's koffice-trinityFeb 03 19:59
cubexyzback in 2010 there was a split... koffice and calligraFeb 03 20:01
cubexyzso all the good stuff we all knew from KDE 3.5.10 still exists: kivio, kugar, karbon, kplato, kspread, kpresenter, etcFeb 03 20:02
cubexyzI'm doing all this on q4os Feb 03 20:04
cubexyzso that's TDE-3.5.13-2Feb 03 20:04
cubexyzno systemd worries, just download q4os-0.5.31-i386.isoFeb 03 20:06
MinceRhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/2/donald-trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize/Feb 03 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtontimes.com | Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize - Washington TimesFeb 03 20:10
cubexyzthe borg is at it againFeb 03 20:11
cubexyzM$ buys SwiftkeyFeb 03 20:11
schestowitzwho are they?Feb 03 20:12
schestowitzprobably some useless crapFeb 03 20:12
schestowitzthey just hired their employeesFeb 03 20:12
cubexyzpredictive keyboard technology companyFeb 03 20:13
schestowitzand made up some number for publicity purposesFeb 03 20:13
schestowitzmeh. who needs it...Feb 03 20:13
schestowitzmaybe MS wants to make money from hardware by slapping its crappy logo on itFeb 03 20:13
schestowitzas they did with webcams and miceFeb 03 20:13
cubexyzcould be useful for disabled folks thoughFeb 03 20:15
cubexyzthere's google keyboard for android, but I've never used AndroidFeb 03 20:16
schestowitznot even on some terminal, e.g. on a plane, equipment, surveys at some stores?Feb 03 20:18
schestowitzthey're used extensively to run 'apps' without exposing the OSFeb 03 20:18
schestowitznot just in tablets and phones, eitherFeb 03 20:18
cubexyzit's possible I've used it without realizing itFeb 03 20:18
schestowitzall the machines at the gym I go to now have Android on themFeb 03 20:18
cubexyze.g. if bookstores used it, then I might haveFeb 03 20:18
schestowitzI noticed yesterday, when speaking to someone at the gym, that many call software just apps now, even on desktopsFeb 03 20:19
schestowitzit's a new buzzword, 'app'Feb 03 20:19
schestowitzthe "chrome app"Feb 03 20:19
schestowitzthe "email app"Feb 03 20:19
schestowitzeven on WindowsFeb 03 20:19
cubexyzI have a zaurus :)Feb 03 20:20
cubexyzit had something called ipkgFeb 03 20:21
cubexyztotally out of date nowFeb 03 20:21
cubexyzWaterloo does a lot with androidFeb 03 20:23
cubexyzI just want a decent keyboard Feb 03 20:25
MinceRswiftkey is installed on many android devicesFeb 03 20:25
MinceRlooks like m$ wants to inject their malware into themFeb 03 20:25
cubexyzahaFeb 03 20:25
cubexyzand it's on iOS as wellFeb 03 20:26
cubexyzso my borg comment takes on added significanceFeb 03 20:26
cubexyzI'm thinking of buying one of those bluetooth keyboardsFeb 03 20:30
MinceRdo you have a link to a report of m$ buying swiftkey?Feb 03 20:31
msb_I've been using the word "app" short for application, not system software.Feb 03 20:31
MinceRwell, that's what it's short forFeb 03 20:32
msb_Maybe swiftkey is for "devices" -- phones, etc -- that don't have real keyboards.  Again, getting away from general purpose computers.Feb 03 20:32
MinceRalso, maybe swiftkey owns software patentsFeb 03 20:33
MinceRyou can connect a real keyboard to most android devices via usbFeb 03 20:33
cubexyzhttp://mobile.slashdot.org/story/16/02/03/1351209/microsoft-to-acquire-swiftkey-predictive-keyboard-technology-company-for-250mFeb 03 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.slashdot.org | Microsoft To Acquire SwiftKey Predictive Keyboard Technology Company For $250M - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/oh7aj ]Feb 03 20:33
cubexyzI'm sure someone will create a FOSS version of swiftkey, assuming one hasn't been created alreadyFeb 03 20:35
msb_http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RswbgKulL._SY355_.jpgFeb 03 20:38
MinceRthxFeb 03 20:42
MinceRwell, there are many free software virtual keyboardsFeb 03 20:42
MinceRnone that support split layouts as far as i know, thoughFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzsoftware patents could be used there ORFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzsome bundled crap like CortanaFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzbut we shall seeFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzI think it's some bogus numberFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzlike that time Red Hat bought a puppet rivalFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzMicrosoft still loses money in old monopoly areas, so they hardly know what the heck they're doingFeb 03 20:44
schestowitzthat's why they bought skypeFeb 03 20:44
schestowitzthey could never make a phone that's worth a f*Feb 03 20:44
schestowitzso they try to take over pertinent apps or functionalityFeb 03 20:44
schestowitz[20:10] <MinceR> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/2/donald-trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize/Feb 03 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtontimes.com | Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize - Washington TimesFeb 03 20:45
schestowitzSo was HitlerFeb 03 20:45
schestowitznomination does not say muchFeb 03 20:45
schestowitzI think it's not too hard to nominate. Winning is another thing.Feb 03 20:45
MinceRwinning does not say much eitherFeb 03 20:46
MinceRsince obama and othersFeb 03 20:46
cubexyzwhy did they nominate Trump?Feb 03 20:46
schestowitzBut Rump will jerk himself off to the GOP site (WashTImes) 'news'.Feb 03 20:46
MinceRcould be genuine belief, could be trollingFeb 03 20:46
MinceRcould be a PR stuntFeb 03 20:46
schestowitzprobably, not badFeb 03 20:46
schestowitzRump is all publicity stuntsFeb 03 20:46
schestowitzoutrageous statement so as to command the mediaFeb 03 20:47
schestowitzBut then, a lot of people would vote for any non-Rump GOP candidate just to keep "the craziest one" outFeb 03 20:47
schestowitzThat's why some people might vote Tories/CameronFeb 03 20:47
schestowitzto keep the more right-wing nuts, or UKIP/BNPFeb 03 20:48
schestowitzOr Jobbik in AbsurbistanFeb 03 20:48
schestowitzOrban as 'moderate'Feb 03 20:48
schestowitzThank G****** we got Orbn!!Feb 03 20:48
schestowitz"Could be worse with those neonazis..."Feb 03 20:48
schestowitzsame as in pricing tricksFeb 03 20:49
schestowitzput lots of super-expensive items, e.g. keyboardsFeb 03 20:49
schestowitzand then, after a while, present a cheaper (but still overpriced) oneFeb 03 20:49
schestowitzcompared to all the branded crap it looks like a "reasonable" priceFeb 03 20:49
schestowitzand you sell overprices crap. In politics you can market Hawks this wayFeb 03 20:50
schestowitzClinton not as bad as banning all Muslims entrants to the USFeb 03 20:50
msb_either the GOP winner or the other one after Rump explicitly accepted the support of one psycho who advocates killing abortion doctors, and another who says jews who don't accept jesus should be hunted down and killed, eg, by someone like Hitler.Feb 03 20:51
msb_I think that even mainstream Islam is dangerous.  As a mind-virus it's too successful.Feb 03 20:53
msb_And it dictates laws, food, clothing, etcFeb 03 20:54
msb_I think would-be muslim immigrants should be given a Voight-Kampff test or something, and if they're true believers they should be kept out.Feb 03 20:57
msb_I mean muslim would-be immigrantsFeb 03 20:59
msb_Islam is also anti-woman.Feb 03 21:02
msb_And it contains at least the seeds of jihadism.Feb 03 21:02
abeNd-orgmsb_ & you are the "ignorant racist" for even thinking about things like that :PFeb 03 21:03
msb_Just the opposite of ignorant -- I know too much.Feb 03 21:04
abeNd-orggood luck convincing people of thatFeb 03 21:05
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msb_I don't care about a person's skin color, nation, language, anything like that.  But if they have a dangerous contagious disease -- biological or psychological -- _that_ I care about.Feb 03 21:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are hereFeb 03 22:06
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schestowitz>   Longtime Engineering Leader Jon DeVaan Is LeavingFeb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz> http://www.geekwire.com/2013/longtime-microsoft-engineering-leader-jon-devaan-leaving/Feb 03 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekwire.com | Longtime Microsoft engineering leader Jon DeVaan is leaving - GeekWire [ http://ur1.ca/oh851 ]Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz>  Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz>  Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz>  Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Microsoft Whistleblowing Alleges That Microsoft/Jon DeVaan Engages inFeb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Political Corruption/Election FraudFeb 03 23:42
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schestowitz> Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz>     http://techrights.org/2010/10/02/govt-bribery-nymshifting-allegationFeb 03 23:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE 13.1 Linux Has Reached End of Life,Feb 04 00:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE 13.1 Linux Has Reached End of Life, Evergreen Team Takes Over | Tux MachinesFeb 04 00:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/8TO1YSLCGGFeb 04 00:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 00:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh8aoFeb 04 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesFeb 04 00:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/D60RsA1S6pFeb 04 01:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 01:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh8kxFeb 04 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 04 01:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #RedHat employee makes viral rap video aboutFeb 04 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 #Raleigh https://t.co/Np869K2a4o (abc11.com)Feb 04 01:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abc11.com | Red Hat employee makes viral rap video about Raleigh | abc11.comFeb 04 01:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #LittleBigPlanet developers seeking funding forFeb 04 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 co-op action adventure, #Linux confirmedFeb 04 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7ghVzTVJUG (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 04 01:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh8ljFeb 04 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | LittleBigPlanet developers seeking funding for co-op action adventure, Linux confirmed | GamingOnLinuxFeb 04 01:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 3/2/2016: Dell GNU/Linux Laptop, WineFeb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    1.8.1 https://t.co/naBir5YoKa (techrights.org)Feb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh8lpFeb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU/Linux Wins The Web  https://t.co/c1IqdTHj1sFeb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (mrpogson.com)Feb 04 03:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/2/2016: Dell GNU/Linux Laptop, Wine 1.8.1 | TechrightsFeb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh8z7Feb 04 03:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | GNU/Linux Wins The Web | Robert PogsonFeb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Overpriced (IMHO) laptop with #gnu #linux fromFeb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #dellFeb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OB07XQvSlI (www.digitaltrends.com)Feb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YvshjTP7Sh (www.fiercecio.com)Feb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #pcworld resells itFeb 04 03:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Dell's Ubuntu-Flavored Skylake XPS 13 to Ship Soon | Digital TrendsFeb 04 03:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh8z8Feb 04 03:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercecio.com | New Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Linux laptop 'closer' to shipping - FierceCIOFeb 04 03:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google lays bare security flaws in anti-malwareFeb 04 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 product with 250 million usersFeb 04 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZsmC956Jdc (www.zdnet.com) don'tFeb 04 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 install such crapFeb 04 09:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha3aFeb 04 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Google lays bare security flaws in anti-malware product with 250 million users | ZDNetFeb 04 09:17
schestowitzRe: EPO at CeBIT !Feb 04 09:36
schestowitz> http://www.cebit.de/exhibitor/european-patent-office/E303042Feb 04 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cebit.de | European Patent Office (München) - Exhibitor - CeBIT 2016Feb 04 09:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 09:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 09:36
schestowitz>       Company profileFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 09:36
schestowitz> Patents for software? - As the patent office for Europe, we supportFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> innovation, competitiveness and economic growth across Europe throughFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> our commitment to high quality and efficient services delivered underFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> the European Patent Convention (EPC). Under the EPC, a computer programFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> claimed "as such" is not a patentable invention Patents are not grantedFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> merely for program listings. For a patent to be granted for aFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> computer-implemented invention, a technical problem has to be solved inFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> a novel and non-obvious manner.Feb 04 09:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 09:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 09:36
schestowitz>     Product categoriesFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> Feb 04 09:36
schestowitz> Services and consulting relating to patent protection and trademarkFeb 04 09:36
schestowitz> protection, intellectual propertyFeb 04 09:37
schestowitz> <http://www.cebit.de/exhibitor/european-patent-office/E303042#>Feb 04 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cebit.de | European Patent Office (München) - Exhibitor - CeBIT 2016 [ http://ur1.ca/oha51 ]Feb 04 09:37
schestowitzYes, I noticed this yesterday. They're doing it again this morning:Feb 04 09:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EPOorg/status/695167829373501441Feb 04 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: Are you going to #CeBIT this year (14-18 March)? Come and see us: https://t.co/N2lWaLVUxfFeb 04 09:37
schestowitzsee http://techrights.org/2016/02/04/epo-swpats-and-cebit/Feb 04 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Company Known as European Patent Office Provides Tips on How to Patent Software in Europe | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/oha56 ]Feb 04 09:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/695179693633466368Feb 04 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Source code listings is a real insult to software development.Feb 04 09:43
schestowitzPretending they're authors of some MS Word documentFeb 04 09:43
schestowitz"Feb 04 09:51
schestowitzplease find news from the EPO (below) and attached cartoons expressing staff's mood.Feb 04 09:51
schestowitzregards,Feb 04 09:51
schestowitz"Feb 04 09:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat looks to establish PHL unitFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jpFyJ7mDrO (bworldonline.com) Feb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux  #redhat #philippines #asia #freeswFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha77Feb 04 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bworldonline.com | BusinessWorld | Red Hat looks to establish PHL unitFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Flock 2016: Kraków, #PolandFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jkPbbtGwMx (fedoramagazine.org)Feb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 #redhat #fedora organises/attends eventsFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/d8WWbLU2VN (atodorov.org)Feb 04 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/flock-2016-krakow-poland/ )Feb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha78Feb 04 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-atodorov.org | FOSDEM 2016 ReportFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GPG: a Fedora primer https://t.co/ZeDPPsBGgzFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (fedoramagazine.org) #fedora #gpg #encryptionFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #fedora #redhatFeb 04 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/gnupg-a-fedora-primer/ )Feb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha79Feb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 terrific Android apps you can’t get on theFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 #Phone https://t.co/HaDhljh9Qp (bgr.com)Feb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Apple=branding. #android #linuxFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha7aFeb 04 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Best Android exclusive apps: Download 6 apps not found on the iPhone | BGRFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build,Feb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 LTSFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Vsl9otggDq (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha7bFeb 04 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build, Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 LTS | Tux MachinesFeb 04 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1Feb 04 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Snappy Creator ToolFeb 04 10:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/X9ua26j5Zx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 10:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha7cFeb 04 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1 Ubuntu Snappy Creator Tool | Tux MachinesFeb 04 10:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The case for educating judges on open sourceFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 licensing https://t.co/uxWqwHOaEHFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha89Feb 04 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The case for educating judges on open source licensing | Tux MachinesFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 6 open source CRM tools for 2016Feb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7xdMhqonlp (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha8aFeb 04 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 6 open source CRM tools for 2016 | Tux MachinesFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Go phish your own staff: Dev builds open-sourceFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 fool-testing tool https://t.co/WS7HXDBkzBFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha8cFeb 04 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go phish your own staff: Dev builds open-source fool-testing tool | Tux MachinesFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #coala 0.4 – #eucalyptusFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UX2FAWpPFRFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (wordpress.schuirmann.eu) #gnu #linux #gnomeFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 #pythonFeb 04 10:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha8dFeb 04 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wordpress.schuirmann.eu | coala 0.4 – eucalyptus – Lasse's BlogFeb 04 10:12
schestowitznews from the EPO  and  cartoons just published Feb 04 10:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BlackBerry's Android Priv smartphone launchingFeb 04 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 on Optus https://t.co/FD8g7YBFMVFeb 04 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com) #android #linux #blackberryFeb 04 10:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oha91Feb 04 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | BlackBerry's Android Priv smartphone launching on Optus | ZDNetFeb 04 10:19
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build,...'Feb 04 10:19
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1 Ubuntu Snappy Creator...'Feb 04 10:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google’s Android Devices May Go The hypePhoneFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Route https://t.co/UhJl0rIRoH (www.popsci.com)Feb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 #android #linux #googleFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaauFeb 04 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popsci.com | Google’s Android Devices May Go The iPhone Route | Popular ScienceFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "create Tizen 2.3 or 2.4 native applicationsFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 that can send your location"Feb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/njVdo7mdzV (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 not good, disallow that. #samsung #linuxFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaavFeb 04 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Video - Tizen Native Geocode API - Tizen ExpertsFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 of the best free #Linux #firewallsFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c7Jm8j922S (www.techradar.com)Feb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaawFeb 04 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | 6 of the best free Linux firewalls | TechRadarFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-AppsFeb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux Mint 18 "Sarah"Feb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hOD3dsDBXt (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxmint #gnu #linuxFeb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohad0Feb 04 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-Apps for Linux Mint 18 "Sarah"Feb 04 11:07
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-Apps...'Feb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Online Summit for Ubuntu 16.10 to StartFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 in May https://t.co/xtdxknYf2IFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com) https://t.co/RGfiSOu1qxFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Online Summit for Ubuntu 16.10 to Start in MayFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaddFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu 16.10 Planning Will Take Place At UOS In May: What Do You Hope To See? - PhoronixFeb 04 11:13
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Online Summit for Ubuntu 16.10 to Start...'Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End ofFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Life, Users Urged to Upgrade NowFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3TeyLMECll (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadeFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade Now | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, NVMe Device CloningFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FPzb5iezPP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadfFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2 Support, NVMe Device Cloning | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hoodie aims to be one of open source's mostFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 diverse and inclusive communitiesFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rmXghpVeMf (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadgFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hoodie aims to be one of open source's most diverse and inclusive communities | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out NowFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 for Windows Refugees - Screenshot TourFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5QvQonvV3Q (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadrFeb 04 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out Now for Windows Refugees - Screenshot Tour | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone Users Getting Patch for Mir BugFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 That Made Their Devices UnstableFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6E6Pejczgu (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadsFeb 04 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phone Users Getting Patch for Mir Bug That Made Their Devices Unstable | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone Users Getting Patch for Mir Bug...'Feb 04 11:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out...'Feb 04 11:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2 Support,...'Feb 04 11:17
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End of...'Feb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are hereFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MBbfifGKYt (zoringroup.com)Feb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #zorinos #gnu #linuxFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohajyFeb 04 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zoringroup.com | Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are here | The official Zorin BlogFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Build2 : Another New C++ Build Toolchain /Feb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Build System / Package ManagerFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Xk1ZAtsPac (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #programming #cppFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohajzFeb 04 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Build2: Another New C++ Build Toolchain / Build System / Package Manager - PhoronixFeb 04 12:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ladyfox14/status/695217414741454848Feb 04 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ladyfox14: @aral @schestowitz - Yup. Removed it because it's almost always running in the background and it takes up so much space.Feb 04 12:37
schestowitz(Facebook)Feb 04 12:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/695227464784723968Feb 04 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @lifehacker The big issue here is this expectation of free. It means the company cant afford to care.Feb 04 12:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/695228213384056832Feb 04 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Really owning (controlling) what we buy is becoming even more important. #privacy https://t.co/8Jez4fk3SbFeb 04 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In-house mass #surveillance standards for #internet -connected devices with sensors (e.g. cameras) https://t.co/WQ2pq43ut8 #iotFeb 04 12:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/695229140295925760Feb 04 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Reminded, daily, of @zmaglh's surveillance manifesto: "every object the individual uees…", https://t.co/2RRCOzhxsT https://t.co/8Jez4fk3SbFeb 04 12:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Wayland 1.10 Beta Released Along With #WestonFeb 04 12:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Update https://t.co/1dA2by3LMkFeb 04 12:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #graphics #linuxFeb 04 12:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaohFeb 04 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland 1.10 Beta Released Along With Weston Update - PhoronixFeb 04 12:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Poppins https://t.co/np9NxMjeORFeb 04 13:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com) #freeswFeb 04 13:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaqfFeb 04 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Poppins | Linux JournalFeb 04 13:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MEM 5.0 Aims to Simplify #OpenStack Management Feb 04 13:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/B2NcrgDyW1 (www.linux.com)Feb 04 13:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaqgFeb 04 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | MEM 5.0 Aims to Simplify OpenStack Management | Linux.comFeb 04 13:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why #Enlightenment & #Tizen Love #WaylandFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vhv6c7IbHN (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QISJX2Sdzg (www.phoronix.com) Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VrwAhDO8MHFeb 04 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Why Enlightenment & Tizen Love Wayland - PhoronixFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (phab.enlightenment.org) #graphics #linuxFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaqzFeb 04 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Enlightenment 0.20.4 Released With A Number Of Wayland Fixes - PhoronixFeb 04 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/3/post/e20_4_release/ )Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More Fedora 24 Changes Being Discussed: GlibcFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 2.23, Graphical System UpgradesFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YVY6DmXlru (www.phoronix.com) #f24Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #fedora #redhatFeb 04 13:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | More Fedora 24 Changes Being Discussed: Glibc 2.23, Graphical System Upgrades - PhoronixFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #nvidia exclusives now? Torvalds should showFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 them the finger https://t.co/sFXjDJaI11Feb 04 13:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/AmLeco9Ik1Feb 04 13:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/52FEgMwNEeFeb 04 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | XCOM 2 for Linux Launches Only with Nvidia Support, Intel and AMD to FollowFeb 04 13:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 04 13:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohar1Feb 04 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Highly-Anticipated XCOM 2 Game For Linux Will Be NVIDIA-Only - PhoronixFeb 04 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | XCOM 2 can be pre-loaded ready for release on SteamOS/Linux & exact release time revealed | GamingOnLinuxFeb 04 13:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LetUsComment/status/695236193030639623Feb 04 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LetUsComment: Sans surprise. https://t.co/Iwzg2DrygZFeb 04 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Uninstalling #Facebook app saves up to 20% of #Android battery life https://t.co/5MAiQZu83g malware, not an app, 24/7 physical trackingFeb 04 13:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mir 0.19 Brings Fixes, #Mir 0.20 Now InFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Development https://t.co/PkOHi2KugzFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #canonical #ubuntu #gnuFeb 04 13:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Ubuntu Developers Release #Snapcraft 2.1Feb 04 13:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu Developers Release Snapcraft 2.1 - PhoronixFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Is Now Bringing The ObservationFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Architecture To Their Linux DriverFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/o69WYl2b9Z (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #intel #linuxFeb 04 13:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Is Now Bringing The Observation Architecture To Their Linux Driver - PhoronixFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Docker 1.10 Designed to Bolster #ContainerFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security https://t.co/JEQ6jGMgRcFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.eweek.com) #freeswFeb 04 14:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Docker 1.10 Designed to Bolster Container SecurityFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #LinuxLite 2.8 - Screencast and Screenshots Feb 04 14:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Linux Lite 2.8 - Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 04 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Linux Lite 2.8 Released With Linux Kernel 3.19, BTRFS Support And More - LinuxAndUbuntuFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/FU9UqYH1w0Feb 04 14:05
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454517537390#c8479904392492915187Feb 04 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 04 14:08
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:08
schestowitz @glyn moodyFeb 04 14:08
schestowitzArticle 59 of the EPO Service Regulations reads as follows:Feb 04 14:08
schestowitz(1)(a) Permanent employees shall be entitled to annual leave of thirty working days per calendar year. For the purposes of this chapter, Saturdays shall not count as working days. Annual leave should normally be taken before the end of the current calendar year. If this is not possible because of the requirements of the service, it must be taken in the next following year.Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzThe EPO Service Regulations can be found here:Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzhttp://www.epo.org/news-issues/press/releases/archive/2015/20150930.htmlFeb 04 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO publishes its staff rules and regulations [ http://ur1.ca/ohawm ]Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzThe link for downloading the Service Regulations:Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzhttp://www.epo.org/service-support/publications.html#id=108Feb 04 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Publications [ http://ur1.ca/ohawn ]Feb 04 14:08
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454527348284#c8772416040698107496Feb 04 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax1 ]Feb 04 14:10
schestowitz"I would like to join my voice to the chorus of praise for the work of Mr Glyn Moody and for the rapid correction in the excellent report of the wrong information about leave. Bravo! "Feb 04 14:10
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454529263795#c3601889691333479052Feb 04 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax3 ]Feb 04 14:10
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:10
schestowitz His experience is all at the Patent Office of France, which doesn't do any examination of patentability whatsoever. Instead it grants you a patent as soon as you pay him his fees.Feb 04 14:10
schestowitzSounds like the indulgences racket of the medieval papacy. Feb 04 14:10
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:10
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454543903459#c2892865990863854560Feb 04 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax4 ]Feb 04 14:11
schestowitz" For comparison, when I was an examiner with the UKIPO between the mid-1970's and 1989, annual leave was initially 25 days, rising to 30 days after 10 years' service. To these were added around 8 1/2 days for the usual public holidays and privilege holidays for events such as the Queen's birthday and Maunday Thursday. I don't know what the present situation is. "Feb 04 14:11
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454568937515#c2868803486951504442Feb 04 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax7 ]Feb 04 14:11
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:11
schestowitz @ all the people praising Mr. Moody and his articleFeb 04 14:11
schestowitzwhile adding my voice to this chorus, I warmly suggest you to reiterate or write your comments on HIS blog.Feb 04 14:12
schestowitzThis will only further stimulate the discussion.Feb 04 14:12
schestowitzAlso, a copy should be defiinitely forwarded to the british member(s) of the Administrative Council of the EPO.Feb 04 14:12
schestowitzBut really, thanks Mr. Moody for such a detailed and well researched article. Feb 04 14:12
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:12
schestowitzYou got mentioned here http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 04 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh1uw ]Feb 04 14:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $40, 64-bit Odroid SBC runs Linux on 2GHzFeb 04 14:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | 64-bit Odroid SBC runs Linux on 2GHz quad-core Cortex-A53 ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #MadMax looks like it really is coming toFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 #SteamOS & Linux after all, another massiveFeb 04 14:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Mad Max looks like it really is coming to SteamOS & Linux after all, another massive game for us | GamingOnLinuxFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Incoming! Fleet Commander 0.7Feb 04 14:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Batman: Arkham Knight for Linux & SteamOSFeb 04 14:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Batman: Arkham Knight Gets Canceled For Linux - PhoronixFeb 04 14:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE 13.1 Linux Has Reached End of Life,Feb 04 14:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build,Feb 04 14:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 LTSFeb 04 14:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 LTSFeb 04 14:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Unofficial Linux Kernel 4.4.1 Available Now for Slackware 14.2 and DerivativesFeb 04 14:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1Feb 04 14:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Snappy Creator ToolFeb 04 14:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iX2aFjiIiZ (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1 Ubuntu Snappy Creator ToolFeb 04 14:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/Khzp3bbm9pFeb 04 14:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 04 14:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End ofFeb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Life, Users Urged to Upgrade NowFeb 04 14:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade NowFeb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2Feb 04 14:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2 Support, NVMe Device CloningFeb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out NowFeb 04 14:52
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cubexyzseeing tons of new smurf attacksFeb 04 18:50
cubexyzsomething knocked out the routerFeb 04 18:51
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454585031427#c71186501115529646Feb 04 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohbya ]Feb 04 20:43
schestowitz" Thanks to everyone for providing links to the 30 days information, and for the kind words. "Feb 04 20:43
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/02/epo-appoints-new-chief-economist.html?showComment=1454588096595#c2243808389875867038Feb 04 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO appoints new Chief Economist [ http://ur1.ca/ohbyd ]Feb 04 20:43
schestowitz"Feb 04 20:43
schestowitzwhat a coincidence : another frenchman !Feb 04 20:43
schestowitzIt is like the staff reps sanctioned : all suepo officials... another coincidence like VP1 recently said in an interview for Dutch NieuwsuurFeb 04 20:43
schestowitzle hasard fait bien les choses Feb 04 20:43
schestowitz"Feb 04 20:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/695264306062090240Feb 04 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @J_Utah I would read that book.Feb 04 20:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/695255545616408576Feb 04 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @peterkofod Perish the thought.Feb 04 20:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/695359958859120642Feb 04 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: Drake case represented an attempt by government officials to send a chilling message to whistleblowers: "Shut up.” https://t.co/1wuNh8d5fbFeb 04 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why Did The Government Prosecute This Original #NSA Whistleblower? https://t.co/qf1wIRRQr9 ... https://t.co/A9YYonWQDsFeb 04 21:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/695360958412169217Feb 04 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@theGuruWithin: .@BernieSanders #WarPeace #MLK #WeEndorseBernie .@nn99org #LOVELUTION #BLM .@YYogaMovie https://t.co/6m3wZIkE0U https://t.co/dRc4u4E3iJFeb 04 21:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/695269445384667137Feb 04 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: Don't we all? https://t.co/0Cq4sE5jvSFeb 04 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Makakke: @Snowden "Politikerverdrossenheit" would be more correct. German people have more apathy about politicians, not about politics in general.Feb 04 21:41
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Samoan_Attorney/status/695363192780779522Feb 04 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Samoan_Attorney: @schestowitz strong, strong words.Feb 04 21:51
schestowitzCruz has double standardsFeb 04 21:51
MinceR(javascript) (audio) http://trumpdonald.org/Feb 04 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trumpdonald.org | TrumpDonald.orgFeb 04 21:55
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454599942794#c1267551618688276886Feb 04 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz There is no such thing as the French Patent Office (FPO).Feb 04 21:56
schestowitzThe Grande Nation has a National Institute of Industrial Property known as the INPI ! Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz "How kind of Madhouse to write in and say that I am "rather wrong"."Feb 04 21:56
schestowitzIndeed I was kind, I could have written "completely wrong". I didn't at all confirm what you said. The FPO's examination on patentability may be limited, but there is one, contrary to what you said, and your answer is "rather" graceless, I'm sorry. That'll teach me to try to improve your patent education in the future.Feb 04 21:56
schestowitzI'm not French myself, but I really can't abide with the pervasive French-bashing in all Battistelli-related threads. He's hardly beloved in his home country, you know, and AFAIK, the staff of the FPO was also quite glad to see the back of him when he left...Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | The College Where Martin Luther King Is Problematic - The Daily BeastFeb 04 22:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Justin W. Flory: How do you Fedora?Feb 04 22:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Justin W. Flory: How do you Fedora? | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 ReleasedFeb 04 22:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 Released | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu ConvergedFeb 04 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 TabletFeb 04 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/spFjrWHgTh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 22:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu Converged Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 Tablet | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 ReleasedFeb 04 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/804Na5crqz (dnf.baseurl.org)Feb 04 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcdcFeb 04 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 Released | DNFFeb 04 22:25
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu Converged Device, the...'Feb 04 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ubuntu converged https://t.co/8mgKNKrRIIFeb 04 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/EHTZXkqHeSFeb 04 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (betanews.com) https://t.co/Lh3SWvS85MFeb 04 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu Converged Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 TabletFeb 04 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxuser.co.uk) https://t.co/FOcU83yOw0Feb 04 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.eweek.com) https://t.co/SWPOB6FfVxFeb 04 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (thevarguy.com)Feb 04 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Canonical fulfills its Linux convergence vision with BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition tabletFeb 04 22:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcgvFeb 04 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Canonical announce first converged Ubuntu tablet - the Aquaris M10 | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 04 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Canonical Lands Ubuntu Linux on Tablets for Computing ConvergenceFeb 04 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Ubuntu Tablets Arrive: Canonical Reaches Convergence for Linux-Based OS | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 04 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - AbsolutelyFeb 04 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 fantastic https://t.co/2hqpbBEp5KFeb 04 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dedoimedo.com)Feb 04 22:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcgwFeb 04 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - Absolutely fantasticFeb 04 22:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bosyber/status/695380689034698752Feb 04 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosyber: Glad I live in an open democracy, German parliament clearly has access to all info it needs. Wait, what? https://t.co/bDKHbgYE1sFeb 04 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tiny Cell With Omnipresent Guard, Visitors Just Twice A Day: #TAFTA / #TTIP German 'Transparency' Room https://t.co/4UjafUoeFy by @glynmoodyFeb 04 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Application Spotlight: TerminologyFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KReXcYlemI (it.toolbox.com)Feb 04 23:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.toolbox.com | Application Spotlight: TerminologyFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PSA: Support for #Ubuntu 15.04 Ends TodayFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rjQYXsFYPO (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Feb 04 23:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu 15.04 Is No More, As Canonical Axe Official SupportFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Endless Is The Latest Company To Join GNOME'sFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Advisory Board https://t.co/HKflK4rjkuFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohciwFeb 04 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Endless Is The Latest Company To Join GNOME's Advisory Board - PhoronixFeb 04 23:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/695384435106054146Feb 04 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: The corporatization of #linux. Usually the death knell for #OSS products. https://t.co/5hk3LfbDCJFeb 04 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today I was thinking of the term "Linux advocate". I think they ceased to exist about a decade ago when corporations took over this job.Feb 04 23:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/695384435106054146Feb 04 23:13
cubexyzwe are the real linux advocates, the grass roots onesFeb 04 23:14
cubexyzlots of countries have their own distrosFeb 04 23:14
cubexyzAntiX, Q4OS, Vector Linux, OpenBSD, BL3 to name a fewFeb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Tablet: Everything You Need to KnowFeb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VUAzsmOqqz (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Feb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KRju7BNvM3 (insights.ubuntu.com)Feb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IYOjGVOVUc (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Everything You Need to Know About The Ubuntu TabletFeb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/N8H6XBPUZi (www.zdnet.com)Feb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcmyFeb 04 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Canonical reinvents the personal mobile computing experience | Ubuntu InsightsFeb 04 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Canonical Reveals The Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet - PhoronixFeb 04 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Here comes the first Ubuntu Linux tablet | ZDNetFeb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First X-Apps, openSUSE Board, Faces of FOSSFeb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PhDX3sDDyG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcn0Feb 04 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First X-Apps, openSUSE Board, Faces of FOSS | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - AbsolutelyFeb 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines                 fantastic https://t.co/1uphNC2rM1Feb 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcn1Feb 04 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - Absolutely fantastic | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More on BQ Aquaris M10 https://t.co/Qi8166rwKBFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcnkFeb 04 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on BQ Aquaris M10 | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PSA: Weird Worlds: Return to Infinite Space nowFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                 on Linux https://t.co/bm2ItFBk7DFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (gamepolitics.com)Feb 04 23:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gamepolitics.com | PSA: Weird Worlds: Return to Infinite Space now on Linux – GamePoliticsFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Community Calls All Artists toFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Contribute Wallpapers to Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/KJjQsbwGGU (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 04 23:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Community Calls All Artists to Contribute Wallpapers to Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 04 23:48
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Community Calls All Artists to Contribute Wallpapers...'Feb 05 00:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Freeciv 2.5.2 Free Strategy Game Is Inspired byFeb 05 00:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Original Civilization https://t.co/5XYpyHK2OTFeb 05 00:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 00:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Freeciv 2.5.2 Free Strategy Game Is Inspired by Original CivilizationFeb 05 00:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Freeciv 2.5.2 Free Strategy Game Is Inspired by...'Feb 05 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old GamesFeb 05 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 from SNES Era https://t.co/BaO1yaNi1bFeb 05 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old Games from SNES EraFeb 05 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RadeonSI Gallium3D Can Work With XCOM 2 OnFeb 05 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/wubLy1PZTLFeb 05 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 05 00:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | RadeonSI Gallium3D Can Work With XCOM 2 On Linux - PhoronixFeb 05 00:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old...'Feb 05 00:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here Is What Happens When Trying To UseFeb 05 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Non-NVIDIA Drivers To Play XCOM 2 On LinuxFeb 05 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uWab35yUV7 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 05 00:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohctmFeb 05 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Here Is What Happens When Trying To Use Non-NVIDIA Drivers To Play XCOM 2 On Linux - PhoronixFeb 05 00:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FFmpeg 2.8.6 "Feynman" Released, Drops SupportFeb 05 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 for VisualOn AAC and libaacplusFeb 05 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fgJJKHTpcr (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 00:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | FFmpeg 2.8.6 "Feynman" Released, Drops Support for VisualOn AAC and libaacplusFeb 05 00:28
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FFmpeg 2.8.6 "Feynman" Released, Drops Support for VisualOn...'Feb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old GamesFeb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    from SNES Era https://t.co/BaO1yaNi1bFeb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines @RanjibDey      (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 00:35
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*TweetTuxMachines @basche42 favourited 'Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old...'Feb 05 01:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Openwashing https://t.co/jWkWFVlrCDFeb 05 01:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 01:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcyyFeb 05 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/j4h0p0BfW5Feb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcyzFeb 05 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More on Unicef's FOSS PlansFeb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HMmgTOoSIX (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcz4Feb 05 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on Unicef's FOSS Plans | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/ULsrpGM0q1Feb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 01:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/Tp4r2JCBchFeb 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohcznFeb 05 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/7e1WB0X8LAFeb 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohczoFeb 05 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/J7DgNnKOl4Feb 05 01:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 01:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohczpFeb 05 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/RseztMMR3AFeb 05 01:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 01:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohd1dFeb 05 01:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/2/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Ubuntu TabletFeb 05 01:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Ri3uNMgcwL (techrights.org)Feb 05 01:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohd1eFeb 05 01:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/2/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Ubuntu Tablet | TechrightsFeb 05 01:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @brianfagioli favourited 'ubuntu converged https://t.co/8mgKNKrRII https://t.co/EHTZXkqHeS https://t.co/Lh3SWvS85M https://t.co/FOcU83yOw0 https://t.co/SWPOB6FfVx'Feb 05 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu Converged Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 TabletFeb 05 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Canonical fulfills its Linux convergence vision with BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition tabletFeb 05 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Canonical announce first converged Ubuntu tablet - the Aquaris M10 | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 05 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Canonical Lands Ubuntu Linux on Tablets for Computing ConvergenceFeb 05 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Ubuntu Tablets Arrive: Canonical Reaches Convergence for Linux-Based OS | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 05 02:10
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msb_UN panel finds in favor of Julian Assange, that he's been unlawfully detained for 3.5 years and should be freed.Feb 05 08:28
msb_So far, US, UK, and Sweden don't care and will arrest him.  Feb 05 08:29
msb_For giving proof of numerous US war crimes, torture, extra-judicial murders, etc.Feb 05 08:30
msb_Hillary Clinton said that Assange's revelations are "an attack on the interational community".Feb 05 08:35
msb_Of course, she took part in those war crimes herself.Feb 05 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/2/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Ubuntu TabletFeb 05 08:40
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/Ri3uNMgcwL (techrights.org)Feb 05 08:40
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 05 08:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unikernels https://t.co/qtpzNMt9FSFeb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (etbe.coker.com.au) “When Linux applicationsFeb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 have bugs that are difficult to diagnose”Feb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oherzFeb 05 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | Unikernels « etbe - Russell CokerFeb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “creator of the #Endless computer and operatingFeb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 system, has joined the GNOME FoundationFeb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 advisory board.” https://t.co/keaNz2BD4rFeb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gnome.org)Feb 05 09:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnome.org | Endless joins the GNOME Advisory Board – GNOMEFeb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google’s ‘Android N’ Possibly Referenced InFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung’s Galaxy S7 Edge And S Pen RelatedFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Listing https://t.co/wfgkju8eXBFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ibtimes.com)Feb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohesnFeb 05 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Google’s ‘Android N’ Possibly Referenced In Samsung’s Galaxy S7 Edge And S Pen Related ListingFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Yesterday, I pushed out version 2.11.18 of theFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Geode XOrg driver. This is the driver used byFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines                 the OLPC XO-1" https://t.co/hVN5FYreEbFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (q-funk.blogspot.co.uk)Feb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohesoFeb 05 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q-funk.blogspot.co.uk | Funkyware: ITCetera: xf86-video-geode 2.11.18Feb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Wear gets voice calling and messageFeb 05 09:58
TweetTuxMachines                 dictation in major update Feb 05 09:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tanmtq7EK6 (www.theverge.com)Feb 05 09:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohespFeb 05 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Android Wear gets voice calling and message dictation in major update | The VergeFeb 05 09:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/695547119604801536Feb 05 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz That was really funny :)) ... but sad cus it's true and people don't realize it until it's too lateFeb 05 10:02
schestowitzSome people already take their phones, with two cameras (front and back), to the toilets. #gchq happy.Feb 05 10:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/695548349982838784Feb 05 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz :)))))Feb 05 10:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/695551094404079616Feb 05 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Brain-damaged file system in the words of His Linusness. https://t.co/PsBPslrseWFeb 05 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The dangers of HFS+ for git repositories https://t.co/3s9osETYVm #apple is rubbish... EXPENSIVE rubbish.Feb 05 10:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The best password manager on AndroidFeb 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/wG6jRdiIdE (www.greenbot.com)Feb 05 10:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com | The best password manager on AndroidFeb 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     iPhone vs Android: Almost Half Of iPhone UsersFeb 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Think Android Phones Are More AdvancedFeb 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sjD2bvrHDr (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohewpFeb 05 10:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | iPhone vs Android: Almost Half Of iPhone Users Think Android Phones Are More Advanced | Tux MachinesFeb 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IceCat 38.6.0 release https://t.co/mhBzZMabldFeb 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 10:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IceCat 38.6.0 release | Tux MachinesFeb 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rio Design HackfestFeb 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/tmeAQJXn8F (blogs.gnome.org)Feb 05 10:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2016/02/04/rio-design-hackfest/ )Feb 05 10:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/695551094404079616Feb 05 10:34
msb_More Assange news:  Sweden wants to interrogate him about two rape accusations, but unlike with 40 other cases, the   prosecutor has refused to come to London to do so, earning a rebuke from the highest Swedish court.Feb 05 10:50
msb_The vote of the UN Panel on arbitrary detention in Assange's favor was 3 to 1 -- very unusual that it was not unanimous.  The dissenter was from ...... Ukraine!Feb 05 10:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/695560471232057344Feb 05 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sainsburys: @schestowitz I'd like to reassure you we're not reducing the number of colleagues in our stores as a result of installing...1/3Feb 05 10:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/695560480971190272Feb 05 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sainsburys: @schestowitz ... self service tills. The introduction of self checkouts has allowed us to move colleagues to other...2/3Feb 05 10:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/695560489309499393Feb 05 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sainsburys: @schestowitz ... areas to help improve our service throughout the store. Chris. 3/3Feb 05 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 7: what we want to seeFeb 05 10:57
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msb_Assange used to appear at balcony of Ecuadorian embassy, but no longer does because he's afraid of snipers, because multiple US politicians have called for his murder.Feb 05 11:30
msb_Big cheering crowds used to come for his appearances.Feb 05 11:31
msb_He will make a statement in 30 minutes by video.Feb 05 11:31
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r_schestowitzzoobab_:  https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695573902869852160   https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695574344467095552Feb 05 11:47
r_schestowitzIf one wrongly assumes that: 1) more/broader litigation is good. 2) companies only sue, never get sued. #upc logic.Feb 05 11:48
r_schestowitz[11:30] <msb_> Assange used to appear at balcony of Ecuadorian embassy, but no longer does because he's afraid of snipers, because multiple US politicians have called for his murder.Feb 05 11:50
r_schestowitzThey can pull an MLKFeb 05 11:50
r_schestowitzor JFKFeb 05 11:50
r_schestowitzthen blame it on some "castro fan"Feb 05 11:50
zoobab_British police will arrest him, whatever the UN saysFeb 05 11:50
r_schestowitzbut they would serve to show the public what a farce FCO isFeb 05 11:51
zoobab_FCO?Feb 05 11:52
r_schestowitzand it already embarrasses the UK and SwedenFeb 05 11:52
r_schestowitzHe exposed a naked emperorFeb 05 11:52
r_schestowitznations that are client states of Pentagon's "host nation"Feb 05 11:52
msb_We are in an interesting new era now, thanks to the Internet.  The most  powerful fascist nation in the world, the US, can no longer get away with its murderous lies and activities.  They are exposed and discussed all over the Net.Feb 05 11:53
msb_Billions of people can now find the truth, and the evidence for it, simply by pointing their browsers to the right websites.Feb 05 11:56
msb_Dear God, we may yet survive!Feb 05 11:57
msb_Assange should be appearing live on RT, and maybe other news channels, in about 2 minutes.Feb 05 11:58
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MinceR"God"Feb 05 12:01
MinceRwhat about the less powerful fascist nations?Feb 05 12:01
MinceRis it OK to be fascist for those who are not the most powerful?Feb 05 12:02
msb_MinceR: Go find someone else to misrepresent and pick a fight with.  I'm not going to bite.Feb 05 12:12
MinceRinterestingFeb 05 12:13
MinceRmentioning that there are other fascist "nation"s is "picking a fight"Feb 05 12:13
MinceRit's crimethinkFeb 05 12:13
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zoobab_http://www.lesoir.be/1112729/article/actualite/monde/2016-02-05/julian-assange-detenu-arbitrairement-selon-l-onuFeb 05 12:29
zoobab_The UN opinion is non legally bindingFeb 05 12:30
zoobab_so they will arrest him if he leaves the emabssyFeb 05 12:30
msb_Assange and his lawyers said that since the UK and Sweden are signatories to the treaties that set up the UN and its agencies, the finding of this panel _are_ legally binding.Feb 05 12:38
MinceRi wonder if anyone will enforce themFeb 05 12:39
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msb_The great John Pilger said that Assange was guilty of a crime, which is punishable by death:  telling people how the world is actually secretly run.Feb 05 12:43
msb_No one can enforce anything on the US, due to its huge military power.  All people can do is tell the truth about it over and over again, until the vast majority of the world's people detest the US, and perhaps refuse to trade with it.Feb 05 12:46
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MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160203/00502033497/ares-rights-gets-eff-lawyer-suspended-twitter-posting-mild-criticism.shtmlFeb 05 13:55
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msb_MinceR: The patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Catholic pope are going to meet for the first time since the Great Schism hundreds of years ago.  OK, there's your straight line -- go for it.Feb 05 14:07
MinceRgood for them and you, i guessFeb 05 14:07
MinceRwill st. putin also be present at the event?Feb 05 14:08
msb_You're not as smart as I thought you were, choosing to do another lying attack on me instead of delivering the  punch line: They're meeting to exchange photos of little boys.Feb 05 14:09
MinceRsee, you can do it on your ownFeb 05 14:10
MinceRi wonder if you're also able to stop stalking meFeb 05 14:10
oiaohmIn fact I don't see making a joke about paedophilia as acceptable behaviour.    Stuff like this makes it so lucky for msb_ being here instead of a channel where I have op.Feb 05 14:37
XRevan86What am I missing here?Feb 05 14:41
XRevan86What I see: msb_ said something about christians meeting, MinceR mentioned Putin, msb_ said that this is dumb and noted that joke about that catholic... thing would be better, oiaohm got very upset because msb_ mentioned the thing.Feb 05 14:45
MinceRapparently in catholicism pedophilia _is_ acceptable, thoughFeb 05 14:46
XRevan86> msb_: MinceR, OK, there's your straight line -- go for itFeb 05 14:46
XRevan86That I don't understand.Feb 05 14:46
oiaohmXRevan86: the joke is more than dumb.   Think if something like that is really happening then stupid jokes can hide facts.Feb 05 14:48
msb_XRevan86: What's going on here is that MinceR and oiaohm both go out of there way to attack me personally, even though I've given MinceR materials  to help him and I've set my IRC client so I don't even see oiaohm's posts.Feb 05 14:48
MinceRwhat's going on here is that msb_ does everything he can to prop up the russian empireFeb 05 14:48
MinceRwhether he's paid for it or just wants to watch the world burn, i don't knowFeb 05 14:49
XRevan86oiaohm: It is obvious that this is not serious. One can see if this is serious or not, so hardly a joke like that can ruin the world.Feb 05 14:50
msb_XRevan86: Regarding the "straight line", that means the setup for a joke.  MinceR frequently refers to christian priests as child molesters (which some are) so I gave him the opportunity for a funny joke, but he attacked me instead.Feb 05 14:50
XRevan86oiaohm: In fact, a joke like that reminds of the recent events that really did happen.Feb 05 14:51
MinceRXRevan86: some people insist on taking jokes seriouslyFeb 05 14:51
MinceRmsb_: not only some are, the cult uses its power to shield them against consequences.Feb 05 14:52
XRevan86MinceR: For tsar, for homeland. Feb 05 14:53
MinceRindeedFeb 05 14:54
oiaohmSomething to remember here Pope Callixtus III and Pope Alexander VIFeb 05 14:54
XRevan86MinceR: https://lurkmore.so/images/1/11/Ert.jpgFeb 05 14:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://lurkmore.so/images/1/11/Ert.jpg )Feb 05 14:54
MinceRthough they've changed the title a few timesFeb 05 14:54
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_BorgiaFeb 05 14:54
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XRevan86Title: For United Russia. I find it ironic that this is the name of the Russian Federation ruling party.Feb 05 14:55
MinceRall the better to show that nothing really changedFeb 05 14:55
oiaohmcatholicism has been off the rails for a long time.Feb 05 14:55
oiaohm--Alexander VI, they were suspected of many crimes, including adultery, incest, simony, theft, bribery,[citation needed] and murder-- yes that was a popeFeb 05 14:56
XRevan86MinceR: huh?Feb 05 14:56
MinceRXRevan86: from monarch, through "socialism"/etc., to the alleged "republic", names changed but the oppression remainedFeb 05 14:57
MinceRs/ch/chy/Feb 05 14:57
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XRevan86MinceR: We have a very different view on many things.Feb 05 15:00
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oiaohmcatholicism biggest issue is forgiveness you commit a sin you admit it to priest that give you stupid actions to perform and you are magically forgiven.    By the bible you are meant to require forgiveness from the person/persons you have sinned against.Feb 05 15:02
msb_XRevan86: is there a connection between Russia and Borgias?Feb 05 15:02
oiaohmSame reason Alexander VI could remain pope is the same reason paedophilia and other items were able to remain in the church.Feb 05 15:03
XRevan86msb_: Never heard of them until 14:53:07 UTC today.Feb 05 15:03
msb_XRevan86: You said "Title: For United Russia. I find it ironic that this is the name of the Russian Federation ruling party"  What did that mean?Feb 05 15:04
XRevan86(17:52:48) XRevan86: MinceR: https://lurkmore.so/images/1/11/Ert.jpgFeb 05 15:05
XRevan86msb_: It's a continuation of this.Feb 05 15:05
msb_okFeb 05 15:06
XRevan86msb_: Random historical pic from the times of Russian Civil War.Feb 05 15:06
XRevan86It is even debatable did communists won the civil war or not.Feb 05 15:12
msb_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War -- a very detailed article, which has that dragon pictureFeb 05 15:12
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XRevan86msb_: Russian article is much more detailed :).Feb 05 15:14
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism  1984 in the pope rule of the Borgia was the chance to accept an settlement .Feb 05 15:14
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oiaohmopps 1484Feb 05 15:14
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/BritishInterventionPoster.jpg hehFeb 05 15:15
oiaohmXRevan86: reality is Borgias are linked to the current event.  And part of the reason why settlement end up dead in the water the last time.Feb 05 15:15
msb_XRevan86: "It is even debatable did communists won the civil war or not"  ????Feb 05 15:17
XRevan86msb_: Communists didn't want Russian Empire, half-barbaric agrarian country.Feb 05 15:18
XRevan86msb_: but a world revolutionFeb 05 15:19
XRevan86and that they failed to deliverFeb 05 15:20
XRevan86And after that next debatable thing would be whether Stalin did the necessary thing or not, was he a communist or a traitor.Feb 05 15:21
msb_Well there is still hope for a better form of world socialism, since capitalism is self-destructing.Feb 05 15:22
XRevan86msb_: It's self-destructing for a very long time now. And probably will take the world with it.Feb 05 15:23
msb_The Internet is giving the whole human species a form of group consciousness, so maybe it will avoid nuclear war.Feb 05 15:25
XRevan86I don't think nuclear war is a problem. It's too dumb for anyone.Feb 05 15:26
msb_Then what, biological?Feb 05 15:26
XRevan86When one will find a way to make profits from nuclear war, then I'll start to fear.Feb 05 15:26
XRevan86msb_: Orwellian type war.Feb 05 15:27
XRevan86not nuclear, just regular warFeb 05 15:27
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XRevan86and not world war but local wars there are thereFeb 05 15:27
XRevan86there and there*Feb 05 15:28
msb_But that's based on lies, which I think the Net will help expose and dispel.Feb 05 15:28
XRevan86msb_: We already have those. Where's the Net power?Feb 05 15:29
msb_Socialists and social democrats all over the world favor international cooperation.Feb 05 15:29
msb_The truth-telling sites are evolving gradually.Feb 05 15:30
msb_It takes time for people to find them and tell other people about them.Feb 05 15:31
msb_It's like a person waking up slowly.Feb 05 15:32
XRevan86msb_: One can hope.Feb 05 15:34
msb_Look at the success of Jeremy Corbyn ("democratic socialist") and Bernie Sanders ("democratic socialist").Feb 05 15:37
XRevan86msb_: For me right now it only says that majority people apparently still have common sense out there.Feb 05 15:38
msb_The more advanced our technology gets, the fewer workers are required, so the current economic model cannot continue.Feb 05 15:39
XRevan86From two evils and one okay guy they those an okay guy. Well, that really is gret.Feb 05 15:39
XRevan86great*Feb 05 15:39
XRevan86msb_: As Marx ones said.Feb 05 15:39
msb_two evils?Feb 05 15:40
XRevan86Or was it Engels? Probably both. It was obvious back then anyway :).Feb 05 15:40
XRevan86msb_: Trump and Clinton?Feb 05 15:40
XRevan86Obvious solution to that people won't do hard work for free is to make it so they won't have to.Feb 05 15:41
XRevan86Capitalists also said that people won't do any work for free but Internet clearly shows that when people want to create, money is a complication, not a helper.Feb 05 15:43
msb_But they need to get money -- jobs -- to live.Feb 05 15:43
XRevan86msb_: Sorry, I didn't say I'm talking about communism here :).Feb 05 15:43
msb_I just heard Clinton saying that Russia is the greatest menace to the US and is trying to take over Europe.Feb 05 15:44
XRevan86Economical thing when people freely give and freely take things to and from society.Feb 05 15:44
msb_She hopes we won't remember that the US started the trouble in Ukraine.Feb 05 15:44
XRevan86In Crimea Russia was very lucky.Feb 05 15:45
XRevan86It's fun to see how some people see a real power in modern Russia :).Feb 05 15:45
msb_Russia's successful intervention against ISIL in Syria looks like real power to the US fascists.Feb 05 15:46
msb_Russia + China + Iran + India = real powerFeb 05 15:47
XRevan86msb_: Maybe, in a unionFeb 05 15:49
msb_They are forming an economic union, maybe defense also.Feb 05 15:49
msb_All those cheap SBCs being made in China will help poor people all over the world get on the Internet!Feb 05 15:50
XRevan86msb_: The biggest problem in being that union being a menace to Europe is that it would care even less than Russia alone.Feb 05 15:50
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msb_With Linux!Feb 05 15:50
XRevan86s/being //Feb 05 15:50
msb_Right -- they can trade with each other.Feb 05 15:51
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msb_Buy local meat, though.  The Chinese are known to pick up dead chickens, wash them in bleach, and sell them.Feb 05 15:55
msb_If your cat won't touch it, don't eat it.Feb 05 15:57
XRevan86msb_: I think all meat here is Russian.Feb 05 15:57
XRevan86and Belarussian :)Feb 05 15:57
XRevan86* BelarusianFeb 05 15:58
msb_Beware of GMO food from the US.  I used to eat a lot of pizzas, but I think the GMO wheat damaged my kidneys.Feb 05 15:59
XRevan86msb_: I don't think products imported from US is a problem.Feb 05 15:59
XRevan86since there are noneFeb 05 16:00
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msb_US is torturing you with sanctions.  You are lucky!Feb 05 16:00
XRevan86msb_: I don't think I've ever seen much.Feb 05 16:01
XRevan86msb_: Belarus is like a quality stamp here :).Feb 05 16:02
XRevan86Belarusian milk, Belarusian meat and meat products.Feb 05 16:03
msb_Assange is speaking from embassy balcony.  Not getting shot.  (yet)Feb 05 16:04
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msb_I wish he would get smuggled out of embassy in the trunk of a car and flown to Ecuador.Feb 05 16:10
msb_But I guess the US govt could kill him there too.Feb 05 16:11
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msb_Great.  Volcano erupting in Japan 50km from nuke plant.Feb 05 16:28
MinceR161839 < XRevan86> msb_: Communists didn't want Russian Empire, half-barbaric agrarian country.Feb 05 16:56
MinceRhow do you know what they _wanted_ vs. what they _said_ they wanted?Feb 05 16:57
MinceR162223 < msb_> Well there is still hope for a better form of world socialism, since capitalism is self-destructing.Feb 05 16:57
MinceRgood thing "socialism" didn't self-destruct. oh wait.Feb 05 16:57
MinceR164534 < XRevan86> It's fun to see how some people see a real power in modern Russia :).Feb 05 16:58
MinceRthey still have enough nukes to cause a lot of trouble.Feb 05 16:58
zoobab_Mr Assange hailed it a "significant victory" and called the decision "binding", but the UK government dismissed this.Feb 05 17:08
zoobab_http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35504237Feb 05 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.com | Julian Assange decision by UN panel ridiculous, says Hammond - BBC NewsFeb 05 17:08
MinceRi guess we'll see the fascists demolish what's left of rule of law, just to get their way in petty revengeFeb 05 17:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Enlightenment 0.20.4 Released With A Number Of Wayland Fixes - PhoronixFeb 05 17:13
msb_MinceR: You are a master baiter -- "good thing "socialism" didn't self-destruct. oh wait."Feb 05 17:17
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/695611768991825920Feb 05 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: WordPress Infections Leading to TeslaCrypt Ransomware @schestowitz https://t.co/VeQv2T8fZnFeb 05 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> threatpost.com | WordPress Compromises Lead to Teslacrypt Ransoware | Threatpost | The first stop for security newsFeb 05 18:53
MinceRhttp://archive.is/YqLdiFeb 05 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The Talos Secure Workstation Is A High-Performance Libre System - PhoronixFeb 05 18:53
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/695626955073458177Feb 05 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Amen to this article: "6 Benefits of Using Open Source Software in Government @philshapiro @charlie3 @schestowitz https://t.co/Nt5Qk67nQtFeb 05 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.govtech.com | 6 Benefits of Using Open Source Software in Government (Industry Perspective)Feb 05 18:57
r_schestowitzMinceR: why archive link?Feb 05 18:57
r_schestowitzzoobab_: https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695589897999097856  https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695591094462058498Feb 05 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nipclaw: @schestowitz yes it will. The costs of litigation will be so much less than in this country. It will also be easier to obtain IP insurance.Feb 05 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nipclaw: @The_Code_Shirts @Moz @Start_up_Mentor see my response to @schestowitz. Fragmentation of Europe is an enormous barrier to innovation in EU.Feb 05 18:58
r_schestowitzzoobab_: waste of time talking to lawyers directlyFeb 05 18:58
r_schestowitznot the right audienceFeb 05 18:58
MinceRbecause i don't support moronix's clickbait/(free software)-hostile waysFeb 05 18:58
r_schestowitzI will write about UPC later, using some of your links which you selectedFeb 05 18:58
r_schestowitzMinceR: i cFeb 05 18:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ximoberna/status/695631564479266817Feb 05 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ximoberna: Open Source or Open Architecture? Big Data Needs Both https://t.co/jad67kxcoF via @schestowitzFeb 05 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Open Source or Open Architecture? Big Data Needs Both | Data Center Knowledge - Linkis.comFeb 05 18:59
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/695670022237245440Feb 05 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Coming home to find wolves in your home: "Crypto flaw so glaring it may be intentional backdoor" https://t.co/WP0ZQKGufH @schestowitzFeb 05 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Crypto flaw was so glaring it may be intentional eavesdropping backdoor | Ars TechnicaFeb 05 18:59
MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160203/09004533506/proposed-hungarian-law-would-allow-government-to-suspend-key-human-rights-whenever-there-is-terror-threat-situation.shtmlFeb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Proposed Hungarian Law Would Allow Government To Suspend Key Human Rights Whenever There Is A 'Terror Threat Situation' | TechdirtFeb 05 19:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671445579998896128   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671446437327171585   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671446870443597825Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Been travelling all day and only just catching up with these very serious allegations levelled against us.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Roy's claims relate to this article: https://t.co/TjjD6oxMfaFeb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.iam-media.com | Pilot project with Microsoft and other big filers will directly help SMEs, not hinder them, says EPO - Blog - Intellectual Asset Management (IAM) - Maximising IP Value for BusinessFeb 05 19:12
MinceRputin's apprentice learned so much!Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz The article is basxed on an interview with an EPO spokesman who responds to allegations that had been made by Roy.Feb 05 19:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447092506861568   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447342785159169   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447528261464064Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Because of the documents Roy produced we thought the allegations had legs, so approached the EPO to get a responseFeb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz As part of the article we linked to the documents that Roy had already published to support his case.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We did not identify Roy as the source of those documents, neither did we identify who Roy had received them fromFeb 05 19:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447879865733120   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448037722583040   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448168706494469Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We do not know who he received them from. He is our source for them and has chosen to identify himself as such.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Following publication of the story, at no stage did Roy contact us to protest we had compromised his source.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Neither did Roy contact us to ask that we remove the links we had provided.Feb 05 19:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448430334623744   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448856668844032   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671449579976572928Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz So, we compromised no-one. We would never do that. We never have. Multiple sources would testify to that.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We directly challenge Roy to name one source who has been compromised by IAM.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Furthermore, we had no advanced knowledge of any EPO plans to threaten him with legal action.Feb 05 19:12
MinceRthough to be fair, he also learned much from hungary's earlier muscovite dictatorsFeb 05 19:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671450050036371456   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671450499221180417   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671450733464670209   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671451262701977600 Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz In fact, when we learned of the legal action we Tweeted that the EPO was unwise to have done it.Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We have nothing against TechRights and support its right to cover issues in the way it sees fit.Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We just do not see things in the way that TechRights does, even though we have often criticised EPO management.Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz If Roy does not trust us, he is best ignoring us. We regret he feels he needs to question our integrity.Feb 05 19:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671451552645795841   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671452502185943040  https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671452502185943040Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We think he should try to accept there are different ways to see the world, including the current EPO situation.Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Hope this helps. We won't get into a back & forth, so you can either accept we are genuine or not. Joff WildFeb 05 19:13
MinceR>Restrictions on travel to and residence in certain areas of the country (including the possibility of forced relocation or evacuation, or restrictions on travel within the country) Feb 05 19:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/695532890399121408  Feb 05 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @ioerror @jerezim Let's bet the UK will ignore that one.Feb 05 19:15
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/695535069969195008Feb 05 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @yanisvaroufakis @DiEM_25 Council of Ministers should be scraped, the executive should not become the legislator, Montesquieu.Feb 05 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Dell XPS 13 Ubuntu editions will be shipping soon » TechWormFeb 05 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ubuntu tablets still in the headlines today,Feb 05 20:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Krita 2.9.11 to Be the Last in the Series,Feb 05 20:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calligra 2.9.11 Office Suite Launches for Linux with New Krita and Kexi BugfixesFeb 05 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | MaruOS claims to turn your Android phone into a Linux desktop - LiliputingFeb 05 20:24
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sebsebsebMinceR: schestowitz_log_ r_schestowitz` cubelog XFaCE nj3ma cubelog cubexyz Sosumi pingFeb 05 20:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Make a $40 Linux or Android PC with this tinyFeb 05 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 new Raspberry Pi 2 rivalFeb 05 20:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Make a $40 Linux or Android PC with this tiny new Raspberry Pi 2 rival | PCWorldFeb 05 20:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MaruOS claims to turn your Android phone into aFeb 05 20:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MaruOS claims to turn your Android phone into a Linux desktop | Tux MachinesFeb 05 20:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware 14.2 Beta 2 Announced Feb 05 20:38
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cubexyzI just checked the changelog of slackware-currentFeb 05 20:49
cubexyzno mention at all of systemdFeb 05 20:49
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cubexyzso I think it's safe to say slackware 14.2 will not have systemdFeb 05 20:49
cubexyzand 32-bit will be supported, so far so goodFeb 05 20:50
MinceRi hope they won't force stutter^W"pulse"audio on users eitherFeb 05 20:52
cubexyzit supports ALSAFeb 05 20:53
cubexyzthere is some pulseaudio stuff but you should be able to avoid that without too much troubleFeb 05 20:54
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cubexyzI'll probably put slackware 14.2 on one machineFeb 05 20:54
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r_schestowitzMinceR: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160203/09004533506/proposed-hungarian-law-would-allow-government-to-suspend-key-human-rights-whenever-there-is-terror-threat-situation.shtmlFeb 05 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Proposed Hungarian Law Would Allow Government To Suspend Key Human Rights Whenever There Is A 'Terror Threat Situation' | TechdirtFeb 05 21:04
r_schestowitzdid you see it?Feb 05 21:04
MinceRyeahFeb 05 21:04
MinceRlinked it here tooFeb 05 21:04
XRevan86- Terror against humans rights? Fast, suspend human rights! Phew, now they are safe.Feb 05 21:05
r_schestowitzhttps://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur27/3359/2016/en/Feb 05 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amnesty.org | Document | Amnesty International [ http://ur1.ca/ohhb7 ]Feb 05 21:06
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r_schestowitzXRevan86: terror goals accomplishedFeb 05 21:07
MinceRhungarians don't care about human rightsFeb 05 21:11
XRevan86but human rights care about hungariansFeb 05 21:14
XRevan86That was cheesy but I couldn't resist :).Feb 05 21:14
MinceR:)Feb 05 21:15
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/695715928965832708Feb 05 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: or a corporate department https://t.co/BtkjCXEMzHFeb 05 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US traps in #london https://t.co/JUVYQbcYKp not sure which country I even live in anymore. #uk like a colony.Feb 05 21:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Humble Weekly Bundle "Make Your Move" Has Seven Cool Strategy Games for LinuxFeb 05 21:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Killing Floor 2 still planned for SteamOS &Feb 05 21:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Killing Floor 2 still planned for SteamOS & Linux, lacking the manpower for it right now | GamingOnLinuxFeb 05 21:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Announcement (1.9.3) | Tux MachinesFeb 05 21:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux MachinesFeb 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NayuOS Review – Free & Open Source AlternativeFeb 05 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 To Chrome OS With Node.js And Without GoogleFeb 05 21:55
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msb_"<MinceR> hungarians don't care about human rights"  All the Hungarians I know are evil rotten lying bastards.  Of course I only know one...Feb 05 22:01
MinceRyou'd like the others more, they tend to support your favorite living dictator and his faithful apprenticeFeb 05 22:02
MinceRand they tend to be as much against human rights as you areFeb 05 22:02
msb_syllogism:  1. "hungarians don't care about human rights" 2. MinceR is hungarian 3. Therefore, MinceR doesn't care about human rights.  That explains a lot.Feb 05 22:05
msb_And without any input from me.Feb 05 22:06
MinceRaccording to the hungarian government, i am not hungarianFeb 05 22:06
msb_In case anyone reading this doesn't know that MinceR is a lying piece of shit:  A. I do not favor any dictator  B. I am not against human rightsFeb 05 22:07
MinceRyeah, any regular reader can tell that msb_ keeps supporting dictators loudly while claiming he doesn't support themFeb 05 22:08
msb_Name one, you lying piece of shit.Feb 05 22:09
MinceRi've named plenty of them and you ignored them every time, you fascist piece of lying shit.Feb 05 22:09
msb_IOW, you can't.Feb 05 22:10
msb_And you don't know what "fascist" means.Feb 05 22:10
MinceRsomeone who supports fascism, like msb_ Feb 05 22:12
msb_That's tautological, shit-for-brains.Feb 05 22:12
MinceRit's not tautological, you brainless savage.Feb 05 22:12
MinceRperhaps they didn't teach you the difference between the letters 't' and 'm', you fascist shitpig?Feb 05 22:13
msb_Then what does "fascism" mean?Feb 05 22:19
MinceRextreme authoritarianism, usually with particular tropes and symbols includedFeb 05 22:19
msb_WrongFeb 05 22:24
MinceRright, fascists with hammer and sickle are "not fascist"Feb 05 22:24
MinceR"see, we're totally different from those guys!"Feb 05 22:24
msb_"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito MussoliniFeb 05 22:25
MinceRlike the merger of putler's power and the corporations owned by the oligarchs he controls?Feb 05 22:26
MinceRor like the merger of the state party's power and the power of the corporations owned by the state?Feb 05 22:26
msb_Corporations are not owned by the state.  They are owned by (groups of) wealthy individuals.Feb 05 22:27
MinceRin one the systems you idolized openly (which called itself "socialist", "communist" and other things), the corporations were indeed owned by the stateFeb 05 22:28
MinceRit's funny you're trying to deny that tooFeb 05 22:28
msb_First, you lying piece of shit, I don't idolize anything.Feb 05 22:29
MinceRfirst, you fascist lying piece of shit, claiming you don't idolize the things you rave about every day isn't fooling anybody.Feb 05 22:30
msb_I don't rave about anything, shit-pig.Feb 05 22:31
MinceRyou lie about almost everything, you fascist subhumanFeb 05 22:32
msb_"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito MussoliniFeb 05 22:33
msb_You have always equated fascism with authoritarianism.  And since you never learn anything, you probably always will.Feb 05 22:35
MinceRi see you only care about what your idol mussolini saysFeb 05 22:37
msb_ mussolini is not my idol, you lying sack of shit.Feb 05 22:38
MinceRalso, i've already explained the merger of state and corporate power, you write-only retarded fascist barbarian.Feb 05 22:40
msb_But you said above "corporations owned by the state", which is nonsense.Feb 05 22:42
MinceRtell that to your stalinist idolsFeb 05 22:43
MinceRthe ones that are still alive, anywayFeb 05 22:43
cubexyzin Canada we have Crown Corporations: the CBC, Canada Post and Via RailFeb 05 22:44
msb_Apparently you are unable to make an argument without attributing things to me that are utterly false.Feb 05 22:44
cubexyzI think Hungry has the MOL Group which is the same ideaFeb 05 22:44
cubexyzHungaryFeb 05 22:44
MinceRin hungary, the "socialists"/"communists"/etc. kept all corporations in state ownership for most of their reignFeb 05 22:44
MinceRthey loosened that policy somewhat near the end, probably because they started to realize that they destroyed the economy.Feb 05 22:45
cubexyzthe United States has Government-sponsored enterprises like Fannie MaeFeb 05 22:45
msb_"A corporation is a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.>Feb 05 22:45
msb_MinceR: If the USSR was fascist, why did fascist Hitler attack it?  Why was Hitler paid by wealthy Americans to attack it?Feb 05 22:47
MinceRmsb_: guess what, dictators are rarely controlled by ideologyFeb 05 22:47
MinceRhitler attacked the ussr because he wanted to take over its resources, iircFeb 05 22:47
XRevan86Hitler totally believes in his ideology.Feb 05 22:48
XRevan86believed*Feb 05 22:48
MinceRby your "logic" i could just as well attack if the ussr wasn't fascist, why was the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact signedFeb 05 22:48
MinceRs/attack/ask/Feb 05 22:48
msb_Why was Hitler paid by wealthy Americans to attack the USSR?Feb 05 22:49
MinceRbecause those wealthy americans believed in hitler's ideologyFeb 05 22:50
MinceRiirc henry ford and thomas j. watson were (at least initially) openly naziFeb 05 22:50
msb_What aspects of hitler's ideology did the wealthy americans believe in?Feb 05 22:51
MinceRthat may have depended on which wealthy american we're talking about, but i haven't read any in-depth treatment of this questionFeb 05 22:52
msb_IOW, you have no idea.Feb 05 22:53
MinceRgo fuck yourself.Feb 05 22:53
msb_go kill yourselfFeb 05 22:53
MinceRgo hang yourself, you fascist piece of shit.Feb 05 22:53
msb_wealthy americans paid Hitler to kill off socialists in Russia and Europe, because socialism was becoming popular, and the wealthy knew that if it caught on, their enormous profits would vanish, going instead to workers.Feb 05 22:55
MinceRwell, enormous profits did vanish, as the ussr destroyed its own economy and that of the eastern blocFeb 05 22:56
MinceRand the standards of living plummetedFeb 05 22:56
MinceRand that region still hasn't recoveredFeb 05 22:56
MinceRwell, at least some parts of it anywayFeb 05 22:57
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msb_In your robotic compulsion to attack socialism, you ignored the reason wealthy americans paid hitler to kill off socialists.Feb 05 22:59
MinceRin your braindead compulsion to support everything that calls itself "socialist" or "communist" or "people's democracy", you ignored the facts and fabricated a tale about an attack against "socialism"/etc.Feb 05 23:00
MinceReven though most people in power don't give two shits about ideology, what they care about is powerFeb 05 23:00
cubexyzsome socialism is good thoughFeb 05 23:02
cubexyze.g. health care programsFeb 05 23:03
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_NazisFeb 05 23:03
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cubexyzLinux is pretty much socialismFeb 05 23:04
cubexyzeveryone sharesFeb 05 23:04
msb_yepFeb 05 23:04
MinceRas discussed earlier, "socialism" is pretty much devoid of meaning alreadyFeb 05 23:05
MinceR"Thus, if we are to judge views by their resemblance to Russian Communism, it is the software owners who are the Communists." -- rms, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.en.htmlFeb 05 23:06
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MinceRsee also: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/luispo-rms-interview.en.htmlFeb 05 23:07
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cubexyzMicrosoft is a good example of capitalism going too farFeb 05 23:08
MinceR"Thanks to Mr. Gates, we now know that an open Internet with protocols anyone can implement is communism; it was set up by that famous communist agent, the US Department of Defense." -- rms, https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_StallmanFeb 05 23:08
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cubexyzMinceR, yes :)Feb 05 23:09
cubexyzthat's one of my favourite quotesFeb 05 23:09
MinceRi can't tell if it is, since "capitalism" is yet another essentially meaningless termFeb 05 23:09
MinceRin its pre-marx sense, everyone who owns capital is a "capitalist", including workers under anarcho-communismFeb 05 23:09
cubexyzright, it's a bit vagueFeb 05 23:09
msb_So MinceR, you wrongly equate fascism with authoritarianism, and you say that socialism is meaningless.  This guarantees that you will be unable to understand either.Feb 05 23:10
MinceRand marx's theory is a confused fever dream, so it's meaninglessFeb 05 23:10
cubexyzand some words do change meaning over timeFeb 05 23:10
MinceRmsb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_%28insult%29Feb 05 23:10
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msb_Socialism is an economic system in which workers receive, as wages, most of the value of the goods and services they produce.Feb 05 23:11
cubexyzcall it "control of the means of production" if you preferFeb 05 23:11
MinceRpeople often call market economy "capitalism", but microsoft is not an extreme of thatFeb 05 23:11
MinceRm$ has always tried to make the market as unfree as they couldFeb 05 23:11
cubexyzM$ tried to control everythingFeb 05 23:12
MinceRmsb_: except when you call stalinist systems "socialist"?Feb 05 23:12
msb_MinceR: the wiki section you just cited says that fascism does _not_ mean authoritarianism.Feb 05 23:12
MinceRmsb_: learn how to read and retry. we'll wait.Feb 05 23:12
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MinceRmsb_: also learn english, if you have not done so yet.Feb 05 23:13
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MinceRof course, your attempts to assign the same meaning to all words may have irreversibly damaged your language-processing abilities...Feb 05 23:13
msb_You always revert to personal attacks when you know you are wrong.Feb 05 23:13
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MinceRmsb_: i always let you start with the personal attacks, as i did today.Feb 05 23:14
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cubexyzMicrosoft seems Fascist to meFeb 05 23:14
cubexyzmaybe there's a better word for it, I don't knowFeb 05 23:14
cubexyz"One Microsoft Way"Feb 05 23:15
MinceRindeedFeb 05 23:15
MinceROne Platform, One Drive, One FuhrerFeb 05 23:15
MinceRor something like thatFeb 05 23:16
msb_Microsoft is not able to use physical (state) force to increase its corporate power.  Just large-scale lying and cheating.  Actual fascism includes the use of force.Feb 05 23:17
MinceRare you sure?Feb 05 23:17
cubexyzthere's Google DriveFeb 05 23:18
MinceRlast time i checked, they had the law enforcement powers of several sovereign states at their disposalFeb 05 23:18
cubexyzI don't really use it thoughFeb 05 23:18
MinceRcubexyz: yeah, but m$ called theirs "OneDrive" or something like thatFeb 05 23:18
cubexyzyesFeb 05 23:18
cubexyzpaying a subscription to Microsoft is really beyond the paleFeb 05 23:19
msb_But no one is forced to do it.Feb 05 23:19
MinceRno one who is immune to attacks by the usian police forces, for example, that is.Feb 05 23:20
MinceRor other local police forcesFeb 05 23:20
MinceRand if that's not enough, there's the military...Feb 05 23:20
cubexyzavoiding all microsoft technology is not easyFeb 05 23:21
MinceRand it's getting harderFeb 05 23:21
cubexyzwalk into any computer store and you'll see tons of win10 machinesFeb 05 23:21
MinceRthe usa and the eu have ceased to enforce any antitrust regulation against m$Feb 05 23:21
MinceRintel ganged up with m$ to force winblows on people foolish enough to buy uefi appliances (which are marketed as "computers")Feb 05 23:22
msb_Unless those machines reach into your pocket and pull out your money, you are not being forced.Feb 05 23:22
MinceRinterestingFeb 05 23:22
MinceRmsb_: how does taxation work?Feb 05 23:22
msb_Microsoft cannot levy taxes.Feb 05 23:23
MinceRand while we're on the topic, m$ managed to get the hungarian government to hand over gigantic amount of tax money for pretty much nothingFeb 05 23:23
MinceRi have no doubt that they've done this with other governments as wellFeb 05 23:23
cubexyzdidn't Ballmer get pelted with eggs in Hungary?Feb 05 23:23
MinceRmsb_: you should ask their OEMs about that.Feb 05 23:23
cubexyzI seem to remember thatFeb 05 23:23
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MinceRcubexyz: he did, for the above issueFeb 05 23:23
MinceRof course it didn't do muchFeb 05 23:24
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cubexyzthe M$ Tax is real, it's well documentedFeb 05 23:24
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cubexyzunless you build a white-box PC yourself, or buy a chromebook, or a used computerFeb 05 23:24
cubexyznot impossible to avoid, but difficultFeb 05 23:24
MinceRbuilding a mobile white-box PC is far from trivialFeb 05 23:24
MinceR(as in, i've never seen the parts necessary marketed to end-users)Feb 05 23:25
cubexyzpitop seems like one wayFeb 05 23:25
MinceRwhich is a relatively recent developmentFeb 05 23:25
MinceRand they don't have much of a distribution network, afaictFeb 05 23:25
MinceRand the pi still has no power management or suspend, afaikFeb 05 23:25
MinceRand of course tablets and phones are even worseFeb 05 23:25
cubexyzstill in pre-order it looks likeFeb 05 23:26
MinceRnaturally, that's where consumption is movingFeb 05 23:26
msb_Do mfrs of pcs with no os have to pay for a copy of windows?Feb 05 23:27
cubexyznoFeb 05 23:27
cubexyzthat changed a while agoFeb 05 23:27
msb_So, no ms tax.Feb 05 23:27
cubexyzI can't buy a no OS PC locallyFeb 05 23:28
MinceRso now they merely get to pay a far higher price on the devices that ship with winblowsFeb 05 23:28
cubexyzonline, yesFeb 05 23:28
MinceRwhich many customers are still locked intoFeb 05 23:28
MinceRvia applications and closed formatsFeb 05 23:28
msb_Can't you buy the parts and assemble it yourself?Feb 05 23:29
MinceRand of course the price hikes even if they do something lesser to displease their m$ overlords, such as failing to advertise m$ products prominently enough on their websiteFeb 05 23:29
MinceRmsb_: i can do that with a desktop pc, but not with more mobile computers, such as laptops.Feb 05 23:29
cubexyzthere's novena and pitopFeb 05 23:29
MinceRand indeed, all my desktop pcs were custom-built so farFeb 05 23:29
MinceRlast time i checked, novena and most of its components were already out of productionFeb 05 23:30
MinceRpitop is in preorderFeb 05 23:30
MinceRalso, you can't really use most novenas in your lap because there's no place for a keyboardFeb 05 23:30
cubexyzI see a lot of used laptops so I repurpose those and remove the windows stickersFeb 05 23:30
MinceRthere was a very limited number (maybe just one?) of the custom case with the traditional clamshell arrangementFeb 05 23:31
MinceRwhat will you do when you need an upgrade and all the used laptops are locked into winblows using uefi?Feb 05 23:31
cubexyzwell a lot of laptops overheatFeb 05 23:31
cubexyzthat's why I use older tech sometimesFeb 05 23:31
cubexyzeven the P3 can get quite warm in a laptopFeb 05 23:31
cubexyzbut chromebook was pretty good heat-wiseFeb 05 23:32
MinceRwhat if the state of the art advances so much that using sufficiently powerful cryptography is no longer feasible on those older models?Feb 05 23:32
cubexyzsome use falls into the "classic computing" category Feb 05 23:32
MinceRyeah, maybe i'll end up moving to chromebooks once they get more powerful than the last general-purpose x86 non-chromebook laptopsFeb 05 23:33
cubexyzbut a P3 can do web browsing and online banking no problemFeb 05 23:33
MinceRi wouldn't dream of doing web browsing on a p3Feb 05 23:33
MinceRweb browsing is one of the most intensive tasks nowadays, thanks to the "modern" webFeb 05 23:33
cubexyznoscript helps a lotFeb 05 23:33
MinceRif the site is willing to work without javascriptsFeb 05 23:33
MinceRs/ts/t/Feb 05 23:33
cubexyzyou have fine-grained control to enable _some_ javascriptFeb 05 23:34
MinceRsites that don't work at all without it are spreading (like google's blogger)Feb 05 23:34
MinceRand even the support for some javascript bloats the browser a lot and adds plenty of opportunities for security holesFeb 05 23:34
cubexyzok, I guess I'm an outlier on the web browsing thenFeb 05 23:34
cubexyzI've actually put a lot of effort into thisFeb 05 23:35
MinceRit's sad how IT has gone from relatively sane principles to "hey, we'll just download and run random code from whenever on the clients and it's fine because sandboxes are guaranteed to be free of bugs, right?"Feb 05 23:35
MinceRit's now "cool" to cover the page with a loading screen for no good reason or even to reimplement the whole browser in javascriptFeb 05 23:36
cubexyzthere's various tiers of internetFeb 05 23:36
msb_cubexyz: Can you buy a no-OS laptop by mail?Feb 05 23:36
cubexyzI probably canFeb 05 23:37
cubexyznothing comes to mind immediatelyFeb 05 23:37
MinceRlast time i could buy a no-os laptop it was only offered by dHell and turned out to be a piece of industrial waste with no warrantyFeb 05 23:37
cubexyznewegg.ca has somethingFeb 05 23:37
cubexyzmostly I acquire used stuff and get it working againFeb 05 23:38
cubexyzhere's one: refurb HP laptop probook 6460B intel core i5 with 4 GB of ramFeb 05 23:39
cubexyz$289Feb 05 23:39
MinceR"Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly. … if the users chooses this proprietary software package, he then falls into this monopoly for support … the only way to escape from monopoly is to escape fromFeb 05 23:39
cubexyz$9.99 for shippingFeb 05 23:39
MinceRproprietary software, and that is what the free software movement is all about. We want you to escape and our work is to help you escape. We hope you will escape to the free world. The free world is the new continent in cyberspace that we have built so we can live here in freedom. It's impossible to live in freedom in the oldFeb 05 23:39
MinceRworld of cyberspace, where every program has its feudal lord that bullies and mistreats the users. So, to live in freedom we have to build a new continent. Because this is a virtual continent, it has room for everyone, and there are no immigration restrictions. And because there were never indigenous peoples in cyberspace,Feb 05 23:40
MinceRthere is also no issue of taking away their land. So everyone is welcome in the free world, come to the free world, live with us in freedom. The free software movement aims for the liberation of cyberspace and everyone in it." -- https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_StallmanFeb 05 23:40
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cubexyzI want source code so I wrote this file:Feb 05 23:40
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/os-with-source-code.txtFeb 05 23:40
cubexyzanother one:Feb 05 23:42
cubexyzRefurb Dell M65 15.4" intel core duo $189Feb 05 23:42
cubexyzI could probably find one even cheaper than thatFeb 05 23:42
MinceRit's a dHell, so it's garbage hardware with no warrantyFeb 05 23:43
cubexyzrefurb chromebook: $179Feb 05 23:43
cubexyzone year replacement is offeredFeb 05 23:43
cubexyzof course I get free broken ones quite oftenFeb 05 23:44
MinceRreplacement with another instance of the same model with the same design flawsFeb 05 23:44
MinceRpossibly with the same hw issues already presentFeb 05 23:44
MinceRlike the "replacement" GPU in my dHell craptopFeb 05 23:44
cubexyzyes, but I fix computers a lot anyways :)Feb 05 23:44
MinceRoh, and most likely without any idea of when or if ever they'll have the replacement part you needFeb 05 23:44
MinceRdHell is a pretty good case study of how not to do computer manufacturing and supportFeb 05 23:45
cubexyzeverthing needs maintainance at some pointFeb 05 23:46
cubexyzI look at repairability... how difficult is it to get parts, how hard is it to take apartFeb 05 23:47
cubexyzis the RTC/battery glued in?Feb 05 23:48
cubexyzactually this is an old Dell running OpenBSD :)Feb 05 23:49
cubexyzall parts are original, except for the hard drive and memoryFeb 05 23:49
cubexyz2001 eraFeb 05 23:50
cubexyzmotherboards with tantalum capacitors and high quality power supplies + UPS will last a long timeFeb 05 23:57
cubexyzdon't recall if Dell used tantalum capsFeb 05 23:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung begins updating Z1 Smartphone in India to Tizen 2.4 - version Z130HDDU0CPB1 - Tizen ExpertsFeb 06 00:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Devs Might Skip the OTA-9.5 Hotfix in Favour of a Massive OTA-10 UpdateFeb 06 00:24
cubexyzhttp://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1327330Feb 06 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eetimes.com | Terahertz Optical Transistors Beat Silicon | EE Times [ http://ur1.ca/ohi1i ]Feb 06 00:26
cubexyzlooks like I will finally upgrade the vector boxFeb 06 00:35
cubexyzmore and more web sites aren't workingFeb 06 00:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Devs Might Skip the OTA-9.5 Hotfix in Favour of a Massive OTA-10 Update | Tux MachinesFeb 06 00:47
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/695777033503248384Feb 06 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Decriminalization would be a welcome first step, but legalization should follow.Feb 06 01:20
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7016374Feb 06 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ubuntu Web site has just been changed a lot, but still rather ugly in my humble opinion http://www.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntu.com/tabletFeb 06 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ubuntu.com | The leading OS for PC, tablet, phone and cloud | UbuntuFeb 06 01:22
r_schestowitz"It is indeed I reckon."Feb 06 01:22
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XFaCEyo r_schestowitz Feb 06 01:42
XFaCEr_schestowitz: new Vista 10 nicknameFeb 06 01:42
XFaCE"NSA/Windows"Feb 06 01:42
cubexyzNSAdowsFeb 06 01:42
MinceR:)Feb 06 01:42
MinceRNSA userland on Windows kernel :>Feb 06 01:43
XFaCEAltenatively say NSA+WindowsFeb 06 01:43
cubexyzI'm not even the first person to say NSAdowsFeb 06 01:45
MinceRstasindowsFeb 06 01:48
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows10-evil-nsa.jpgFeb 06 01:48
MinceRinb4 the designated troll from the kremlin interjects that the stasi was so good and nice and totally not evilFeb 06 01:49
oiaohmMicrosoft and NSA was really proven 1999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEYFeb 06 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | _NSAKEY - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 06 01:51
oiaohmThe fact that the NSAKEY in Windows has postmaster@nsa.gov kinda tells you.   Basic PGP the owner of key pair places their email address on it so they hold the secret.Feb 06 01:52
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/firefox-has-encountered-windows-problem.jpgFeb 06 01:53
cubexyzoiaohm, we have the source code for NT 4Feb 06 01:55
oiaohmcubexyz: those two keys decide if application when clicked on display a warning message or not.   So application signed with NSAKey or Microsoft primany key may not display any security risk message when it installs.Feb 06 01:57
oiaohmSo NSA has a front door into windowsFeb 06 01:57
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XFaCE[20:50:58]<oiaohm> Microsoft and NSA was really proven 1999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEYFeb 06 02:01
XFaCEyeah, but because we didn't have a leak saying outright that this is a backdoor, it was just "crazy talk"Feb 06 02:02
XFaCEeven now, with the leaks and the obvious fact that Windows is defective by design, still apathyFeb 06 02:02
MinceRand due to religious dogma and cognitive dissonance, it's still just "crazy talk"Feb 06 02:02
cubexyzpeople are rather lazyFeb 06 02:02
XFaCEoiaohm: When GM was revealed to make defective products out of negligence, they paid for itFeb 06 02:03
MinceRit seems most humans won't even attempt to think even if their life depended on itFeb 06 02:03
cubexyzwell, you can't copy an audio cdFeb 06 02:03
MinceRi guess GM's competition has pull at the m$ governmentFeb 06 02:03
MinceRm$'s competition doesn'tFeb 06 02:03
cubexyzthat's 100% proven, so you know there's DRM stuff in there at the very leastFeb 06 02:03
XFaCEyea, exactly MinceR Feb 06 02:04
XFaCEif Microsoft was held to the same standard as GM (which is still not that high), they would be fuckedFeb 06 02:04
oiaohmhttps://www.brianchristner.io/docker-is-moving-to-alpine-linux/  this might be hope for those who hate systemd.   http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux_Init_System its openrcFeb 06 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.brianchristner.io/docker-is-moving-to-alpine-linux/ )Feb 06 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux Init System - Alpine LinuxFeb 06 02:05
cubexyzI remember watching this one windows computer late one nightFeb 06 02:05
cubexyzit was running nothing... but the hard drive light was blinking a lotFeb 06 02:05
MinceRmaybe docker realized ratcrap is 1) their competition and 2) playing from m$'s bookFeb 06 02:05
MinceRso if they want to survive, they have to leave cancerd ASAPFeb 06 02:06
oiaohmMinceR: nspawn in systemd is a direct form of competitor to docker.Feb 06 02:06
MinceRexactlyFeb 06 02:07
cubexyzthe consumer is just a pawn, a serfFeb 06 02:07
oiaohmIssue with alphine is usage of musl libcFeb 06 02:08
cubexyzwhat is the problem with musl?Feb 06 02:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Talos Secure Workstation Is AFeb 06 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 High-Performance Libre System Feb 06 02:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Talos Secure Workstation Is A High-Performance Libre System - PhoronixFeb 06 02:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 6.06 To Ubuntu 16.04 LTS PerformanceFeb 06 02:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Benchmarks https://t.co/BdYtz3RoiZFeb 06 02:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) "moving in the rightFeb 06 02:10
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cubexyzhttp://www.etalabs.net/compare_libcs.htmlFeb 06 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.etalabs.net | Comparison of C/POSIX standard library implementations for Linux [ http://ur1.ca/ohieq ]Feb 06 02:10
oiaohmcubexyz: Lot of programs are tested with gnu libc and expect gnu libc behavour.Feb 06 02:10
MinceRyou can have multiple libc-s installedFeb 06 02:11
MinceRyou can link against glibc, even statically if you want toFeb 06 02:11
MinceRconsider bedrock linux :>Feb 06 02:11
MinceRbedrock itself links against musl, most strata (distros) link against glibcFeb 06 02:11
cubexyzin a few ways musl libc is betterFeb 06 02:12
MinceRindeedFeb 06 02:12
cubexyzsmallest static glibc program is 662k??Feb 06 02:15
oiaohmcubexyz: few ways musl is better is true but its little things that start ruining you day.  POSIX localedef being missing comes a problem.Feb 06 02:15
oiaohmglibc is truly not light it contains a lot of extras that you truly question if a libc should contain them.Feb 06 02:16
oiaohmglibc shares memory with other glibc in the system so when you do a PID look up and the like it does not have to go to kernel every single time.Feb 06 02:17
cubexyzwow, hello world is 579,371 bytes with -staticFeb 06 02:17
oiaohmYou have linked on a huge stack of lets share crap.Feb 06 02:18
cubexyzwe used static for some gamesFeb 06 02:18
cubexyznot that I would have tried musl for that, but maybe for other things I couldFeb 06 02:19
oiaohmFound out about the glibc sharing PID look up information when cgroup namespace with PID was first implemented here was the Linux kernel reporting correctly remapped PID but for some reason glibc inside and out side the cgoup was reporting confusing results.Feb 06 02:20
cubexyzok, musl-gcc hello world size: 9,121 bytesFeb 06 02:20
cubexyza huge differenceFeb 06 02:20
MinceRoiaohm: why is missing localedef a problem?Feb 06 02:21
MinceRit seems to be for custom locales onlyFeb 06 02:21
cubexyzI think musl still uses gcc, that's why there's musl-gccFeb 06 02:22
MinceReven if you can build musl-using programs with other compilers, most users would probably use gccFeb 06 02:22
cubexyzmusl-gcc is what I'm using to test atmFeb 06 02:23
cubexyzwhat do you know, I'm wrong about the game stuffFeb 06 02:25
cubexyzdynamically linkedFeb 06 02:25
cubexyzI'm even using the dynamically linked Heroes3Feb 06 02:25
oiaohmMinceR: you want to abuse of your translation engine for locale in test cases you need localedef.  Lot of complains about gconf not being conforming at times is that it support broken legacy modes some applications expect.Feb 06 02:26
MinceRicFeb 06 02:26
oiaohmMinceR: basically a QA thing is missing.Feb 06 02:27
MinceRperhaps i can get away with testing that aspect of my code with glibcFeb 06 02:27
oiaohmmusl is good for making a libc that follows standard.   glibc is good for being kitchen sink include ways to emulate how a lot of libc broke standard so able to run some old poorly written source.Feb 06 02:29
oiaohmglibc also includes some peformance hacks I call scary.   Like sharing caching of particular syscalls.Feb 06 02:30
oiaohmYes due to musl not having caching some applications can be many times slower on musl than glibc.Feb 06 02:30
cubexyzthat's a bit vague oiaohm Feb 06 02:43
cubexyza specific example would be usefulFeb 06 02:43
cubexyzI've heard musl being about "20% slower" Feb 06 02:45
cubexyzalpine uses musl for everything or..?Feb 06 02:48
cubexyzbuilding firefox would be a good testFeb 06 02:48
cubexyzalpine linux looks interesting...Feb 06 02:49
oiaohmcubexyz: http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/getpid_caching.html  Its stuff like this.Feb 06 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yarchive.net | getpid() caching (Linus Torvalds)Feb 06 02:49
oiaohmYes it makes glibc fast in some cases but it also causes some insanity in other cases.Feb 06 02:50
cubexyzthat case seems more like a deficiencyFeb 06 02:51
oiaohmMost of them are.Feb 06 02:52
oiaohmcaching syscalls creates race conditions from hell.Feb 06 02:53
oiaohmOk might make your program run faster but at times you will pay a huge price.Feb 06 02:53
oiaohmcubexyz: note that as 2004 where Linus said cache getpid is bad.   http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5766184/why-are-many-system-calls-getpid-captured-only-once-using-strace   Here is 2011 and glibc is still doing it.Feb 06 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | linux kernel - Why are many system calls (getpid) captured only once using strace? - Stack Overflow [ http://ur1.ca/ohiku ]Feb 06 02:56
MinceRgreatFeb 06 02:56
cubexyzoiaohm, does AIX do a better job? does AIX use gcc?Feb 06 02:57
cubexyzhmmm, seems they use the XL C/C++ compilerFeb 06 03:03
cubexyzthey would have to be better to justify their prices Feb 06 03:03
MinceRlolFeb 06 03:05
MinceRlike that was ever justified by anyoneFeb 06 03:05
MinceRi faintly remember some horror story about how AIX does dynamic linkingFeb 06 03:05
MinceRstill can't be as bad as what winblows does instead of dynamic linkingFeb 06 03:06
cubexyzAIX just doesn't seem worth it, but there are differing opinions on the matterFeb 06 03:17
oiaohmcubexyz: http://seriousbirder.com/blogs/aix-shared-and-static-libraries-explained/  MinceR is right AIX dynamic linking is ugly.Feb 06 03:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-seriousbirder.com | AIX shared and static libraries explainedFeb 06 03:25
oiaohmAIX .a could be a static or share library.Feb 06 03:26
cubexyzwell anything can be in an .aFeb 06 03:30
cubexyzit's just an archive fileFeb 06 03:30
cubexyzdoesn't have to be a library file at allFeb 06 03:30
MinceRor it could be anything renamed to have an .a name suffixFeb 06 03:32
MinceR:>Feb 06 03:32
cubexyzthat reminds me, ark let me down yesterdayFeb 06 03:34
cubexyzcouldn't handle rar filesFeb 06 03:34
MinceRwell, i'm not sure if there even is a fully free rar implementationFeb 06 03:34
MinceRor a fully free unrarFeb 06 03:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Talos Secure Workstation Is AFeb 06 03:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Talos Secure Workstation Is A High-Performance Libre System | Tux MachinesFeb 06 03:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 6.06 To Ubuntu 16.04 LTS PerformanceFeb 06 03:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Benchmarks: 10 Years Of Linux PerformanceFeb 06 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pt00l7Fqed (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 03:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 6.06 To Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Performance Benchmarks: 10 Years Of Linux Performance | Tux MachinesFeb 06 03:35
MinceRespecially if you need to handle the latest version of rarFeb 06 03:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Create Your Own Free Software ProjectFeb 06 03:35
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cubexyzI'm using unrar 5.11 freeware editionFeb 06 03:35
MinceRfreeware, so nonfree :>Feb 06 03:36
cubexyzI build some version on openbsd so I do have source codeFeb 06 03:37
cubexyzhow is it nonfree?Feb 06 03:37
MinceRwell, i have yet to see free software called "freeware"Feb 06 03:38
cubexyzthe license is a bit confusingFeb 06 03:40
cubexyzhe UnRAR sources may be used in any software to handle RAR archives without limitations free of charge, but cannot be used to re-create the RAR compression algorithm, which is proprietary.Feb 06 03:41
MinceRso, a limitation on what you use it forFeb 06 03:41
MinceRtherefore nonfreeFeb 06 03:41
cubexyzso I'm not allowed to make ark handle rar files?Feb 06 03:42
MinceRat least you're not allowed to use the unrar sources to do thatFeb 06 03:43
MinceRthere might be other limitations independent of the unrar sourcesFeb 06 03:44
MinceRlike patentsFeb 06 03:44
cubexyzok, I was wrong about arkFeb 06 03:47
cubexyzit couldn't open rar files with a different extensionFeb 06 03:47
cubexyznot the most graceful of utilitiesFeb 06 03:48
cubexyzand I don't think I have the source for rar, just unrarFeb 06 03:58
cubexyzso you are right, it's not free softwareFeb 06 04:00
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/comparsion-of-various-file-compressors.txtFeb 06 04:01
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/comparison-of-various-file-compressors.txtFeb 06 04:02
cubexyzummm, yeah I don't think I'll make rar's :)Feb 06 04:03
MinceRyeah, i see no reason toFeb 06 04:03
cubexyzis zip free software?Feb 06 04:04
MinceR050154 <+whales> The milky way as seen from Mars: https://i.imgur.com/2DiC9.jpgFeb 06 04:04
MinceRthere's at least one free zip implementationFeb 06 04:04
cubexyzha, that's cuteFeb 06 04:04
MinceRthere are also free implementations of relatively recent compressors like lzmaFeb 06 04:05
cubexyzok, yes zip is in the public domainFeb 06 04:06
cubexyzlooks like ark actually looks for an rar executableFeb 06 04:15
MinceRis it configurable?Feb 06 04:16
cubexyzin this version you would have to recompile itFeb 06 04:17
cubexyzark seems to be mostly a GUI frontend for command line archiversFeb 06 04:18
MinceRindeedFeb 06 04:18
cubexyzI'll try ark-trinity, maybe that one is betterFeb 06 04:19
cubexyznopeFeb 06 04:21
cubexyzguess I have a new project :-/Feb 06 04:22
MinceRboth fileroller and mc can handle rar files even if only unrar is installed, rar isn'tFeb 06 04:22
MinceRof course they're readonly that wayFeb 06 04:22
cubexyzrightFeb 06 04:22
cubexyzI think ark is the sameFeb 06 04:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The trials of certifying open source softwareFeb 06 04:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tor Browser 5.5.1 Brings a Functional PrivateFeb 06 04:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Anonymous Browser to Chinese UsersFeb 06 04:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SuperTuxKart - A simple recipe for simple funFeb 06 11:33
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OneTHE FARCE GOES ON  A report on Batistelli´s speech in The Hague on February 4  On February 3 the EPO was abuzz with rumors about the withdrawal/dismissal of B. Batistelli, the president who has been trying hard, and managed more and more successfully, to bring this European institution into disrepute. It would have been too beautiful. The spineless Administrative Council´s reaction has so far been, in the most fortunate cases, to Feb 06 13:40
OneHi! Feb 06 13:40
OneIt´s a report on Batistelli´s speech in the HagueFeb 06 13:40
OneI cannot see if the whole article was sent.Feb 06 13:41
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OneHi! I´m trying to send that speech report.Feb 06 19:22
OneTHE FARCE GOES ON  A report on Batistelli´s speech in The Hague on February 4  On February 3 the EPO was abuzz with rumors about the withdrawal/dismissal of B. Batistelli, the president who has been trying hard, and managed more and more successfully, to bring this European institution into disrepute. It would have been too beautiful. The spineless Administrative Council´s reaction has so far been, in the most fortunate cases, to Feb 06 19:22
OneHowever, it seems that only a limited number of lines can be sentFeb 06 19:22
Oneto avoid taking blatantly illegal steps but no firm reaction to his tyrannical decisions.  Batistelli´s response to the AC´s first weak sign of dissent, the recommendation that BB start a dialogue with the staff representation, resultedFeb 06 19:26
Onein the dismissal of two members and the demotion of a third, which amounts to a spit in the faces of the European delegates. Feb 06 19:26
OneThe European press, in its most part preoccupied with more pressing matters and unlikely to shatter the establishment, had slowly started to report on BB´s attack on the examiners´ elected representatives so BB, like any dictator under the siege of external forces, thought a speech would be a great idea in order to bolster his ruleFeb 06 19:27
OneAssad does it, Mugabe still does it, Honecker and Ceausescu did it, so sometimes, but fortunately only sometimes, it works. Feb 06 19:27
OneFuelled by the EUR 800,000 injection into PR a presidential show was organized in The Hague in the old Soviet Union style on February 4. People were hoarded and screened, told to behave, and at 10 o´clock the show began. Feb 06 19:28
OneUplifting music accompanied the images of the EPO and after a short introduction by a continuously smiling moderator with French-accented English which mistook the event for the Eurovision contest the president took the pulpit.Feb 06 19:28
OnePages of positive statistics started rolling on the huge background screen while the president informed the audience that never had the EPO been more successful. Budget, social situation, unitary patent were all mentioned. Feb 06 19:28
OneIn particular the low fees achieved by the negotiating skills of the president against the will of several delegations were mentioned (one can ask why were´t the patent fees lowered but raised when the EPO enjoyed such a great year, but that would spoil the festive atmosphere).Feb 06 19:29
OneA small concession was surprisingly offered, a year of review and assessment - "digéstion", in the words of BB, which means that the process of reducing the EPO pensions will only start next year. Presented were also the "orientations for the future": financial perspectives, social review, occupational and safety assessment, review of investigation guidelines (whatever this may mean) and ... renewed social dialogue (probably after Feb 06 19:30
OnePO in The Hague which are now only suspended).Feb 06 19:30
OneThe Q&A time was started by a brave but very discoursive examiner whose question, very polite but sufficiently clear in describing the bad atmosphere in the office and the distance between the management and the staff, related to the main present concern, the silencing of the staff.Feb 06 19:30
One“I´m a strong believer in social dialogue. My INPI colleagues will testify to this.” was Batistelli´s reply, engaging thereafter in a tirade against SUEPO which were supposed to have slighted him during the homeworking negotiations several years before. Feb 06 19:31
OneAnd then, suddenly, the mask fell. This man who manages to keep his composure most of the time, lost it. “It is not ILOAT that manages the office. It is childish, childish to write to judges in Geneva.”, he retorted, raising his voice menacingly.Feb 06 19:31
OneFor a moment we caught a glimpse of the real face of Batistelli, a man who takes any different opinion than his personally and is ready to destroy the lives of those who oppose him. In a now (in)famous interview he described SUEPO as “mafia” after which he started to eliminate his perceived enemies one by one (two fired and one downgraded). Feb 06 19:31
OneThen the screen presented a page entitled “Disciplinary cases” which started with the bullet point “Contrary to allegations, the EPO unequivocally supports freedom of expression and freedom of association. (underscore as in the original document), continuing with the following bullet points: Feb 06 19:31
One- Disciplinary cases are not launched because of criticisms expressed against the office. - Sanctions are applied following major breaches of our staff rules and regulations. The cases involved: - Active participation in a damaging defamation campaign against the Organisation, the EPO management and individual staff members (One can only ask oneself if the description of the SUEPO by Batistelli as “mafia” does not fall under âFeb 06 19:32
OneDirect threats and coercion expressed against staff members and staff representatives; Undue financial and moral pressure against EPO employees Pressure brought against witnesses during investigations and repetitive disclosures of confidential matter.Feb 06 19:32
OneThen, in red color: “The office has a duty of care to protect all staff members.”  After the sanctions in Munich and the pending suspensions in The Hague sentences referring to “supporting freedom of expression” have an Orwellian doublespeak ring to them.Feb 06 19:32
OneThen, among soft questions like the proposal of a name to the new building in The Hague, Batistelli explained the role of financial incentives in the examiners´ careers. Here he would have a point if the examiners received instead of between 1,500 and 2,000 EUR yearly bonus (representing an average of 2% of their yearly salaries)Feb 06 19:33
Onesalaries) a bonus in the same order of magnitude as the president or the vice-president – seven- and six-figure sums are rumored but cannot be confirmed because Batistelli enjoys, very conveniently but totally against the principle of openness in a European organization, a secret contract). Feb 06 19:33
OneHe then embarked upon discussing parts of the health reform and argued that all has been done for the good of the people. “Il faut degonfler les rumeurs. There is no control at home! Ridiculous! The cutting of the lump sum for invalidity would only facilitate the return to work. All the decisions are medical. I´m pragmatic, ready to change ...”Feb 06 19:34
OneBatistelli then reiterated that there will be no major reform this year but after 2016 there will be discussions with the staff representation and the delegations (who “actually wish the pension reform” – with the tacit understanding that Batistelli will defend the staff rights in front of an aggressive AC!).Feb 06 19:34
OneQuestions about patent administration, classification and educational allowance for non-German or -Dutch staff were addressed and answered vaguely, with a bullet point interspersed: “Quality is our main priority. We are in competition with other offices. We may be the best but we are the most expensive one.” Feb 06 19:34
OneQuestions about patent administration, classification and educational allowance for non-German or -Dutch staff were addressed and answered vaguely, with a bullet point interspersed: “Quality is our main priority. We are in competition with other offices. We may be the best but we are the most expensive one.” Feb 06 19:34
OneOn the question regarding the fluctuating number of applications Batistelli gave this opinion conveyed also by VP Minnoye in his directors´ meetings, that “Backlog is a mistake. It is not a safety cushion. It is a big mistake. Backlogs are not a strength. It´s a weakness. We´re going to receive more and more applications.” It seems there are few people outside BB and his VP who are convinced of this … Feb 06 19:35
OneFinally, likening himself with général de Gaulle (?) Batistelli clarified the matter of his bodyguards. “Europe is not the same as before the Paris attacks. I am French, president of a big European organization. After the Paris attacks both the French and the German police recommended that I should take measures.” Feb 06 19:35
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One_Continuation of Batistelli report:Feb 06 19:40
One_Finally, likening himself with général de Gaulle (?) Batistelli clarified the matter of his bodyguards. “Europe is not the same as before the Paris attacks. I am French, president of a big European organization. After the Paris attacks both the French and the German police recommended that I should take measures.”Feb 06 19:40
One_The finale was less glorifying than the beginning but all in all it was a pretty good performance. Batistelli showed himself less motivating than Fidel, less pugnacious than Kim Il Sung, but definitely more engaging than Honecker or Zhivkov. Feb 06 19:40
One_Any dictator relies on a three-pillared system involving propaganda, fear and the loyalty of the repressive state apparatus. Batistelli is assured of the loyalty of his minions, there´s a certain degree of fear among the staff but his propaganda doesn´t fool anybody at the EPO. Feb 06 19:41
One_The Administrative Council must finally act and replace Batistelli with somebody it can trust!Feb 06 19:41
One_At present the EPO is run by a loose cannon.Feb 06 19:42
schestowitzthanksFeb 06 19:42
One_End of report.Feb 06 19:42
schestowitzI will write more tomorrowFeb 06 19:42
schestowitznew material tooFeb 06 19:42
One_Hopefully you can stitch it together.Feb 06 19:42
One_Thanks to you!Feb 06 19:43
schestowitzI willFeb 06 19:43
One_Is there any possibility to send all of it together?Feb 06 19:43
One_Could you allow more lines to be sent?Feb 06 19:43
schestowitzif the above is complete, I can stitch itFeb 06 19:43
schestowitzI don't trust unencrypted email without torFeb 06 19:43
One_of courseFeb 06 19:43
schestowitzare there more lines?Feb 06 19:43
One_noFeb 06 19:43
schestowitzok, so don't worryFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzone alternative is, Feb 06 19:44
One_it ended with the AC reference Feb 06 19:44
schestowitzusing something like bitbucketFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzor more secure/anonymous optionsFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzthen posting a link to the pasteFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzpastebinFeb 06 19:44
One_I´m not that knowledgeableFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzor whateverFeb 06 19:44
One_I think I can split messages like I did nowFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzI contacted Dordery todayFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzCorderyFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzWe'll see if he and other Frenchmen are still pursuing this at allFeb 06 19:45
One_it´s a bit more work but it´s a matter of a couple of minutesFeb 06 19:45
schestowitzAlso some Dutch politiciansFeb 06 19:45
One_I guess soFeb 06 19:45
One_but the question is whether the Ministers are going to do anything about itFeb 06 19:45
schestowitzsome pepple paste it in ipkatFeb 06 19:45
One_I´m not entirely negative on thisFeb 06 19:45
schestowitzwhere I syndicate all the commentsFeb 06 19:45
schestowitzbut google isn't good for privacyFeb 06 19:46
One_I knowFeb 06 19:46
One_but ipkat may also censor sometimesFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzMinisters can draw in attentionFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzand give the media something to write aboutFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzipkat does moderation nowFeb 06 19:46
One_I cannot believe he´s going to finish his termFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzsome comments take time to appearFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzit's not just about himFeb 06 19:46
One_and the romour about his leaving was spread even by one of the directorsFeb 06 19:46
One_rumourFeb 06 19:47
schestowitzhe probably though of itFeb 06 19:47
schestowitz*thoughtFeb 06 19:47
One_if Batistelli falls the whole bunch will fallFeb 06 19:47
schestowitznot necessarilyFeb 06 19:47
schestowitzit'll also be hard to rebuildFeb 06 19:47
schestowitzand no volition for UPCFeb 06 19:47
One_Minnoye, who´s regarded as a totally incompetent VP, is hated by the directors, tooFeb 06 19:47
schestowitzI have some more staff about TopicFeb 06 19:48
schestowitzI still have lots of unpublished thingsFeb 06 19:48
One_If you could read the Gazette you would see how many people are voting with their feetFeb 06 19:48
schestowitzbrain drain?Feb 06 19:48
One_a lot of staff reture before time and it´s not only examiners but also directors and a PDFeb 06 19:48
schestowitzall branches? Vienna and Berlin includeD?Feb 06 19:48
One_principal directorFeb 06 19:48
One_yesFeb 06 19:49
One_I recognised the names Feb 06 19:49
schestowitzlike the retired John who managed the IUFeb 06 19:49
schestowitzIs he formally retired yet?Feb 06 19:49
One_even the Brussels man has retired although he was relatively youngFeb 06 19:49
One_who?Feb 06 19:49
schestowitzthus the opening...Feb 06 19:49
schestowitzthe one who approved the keyloggersFeb 06 19:49
schestowitzJohn MartinFeb 06 19:49
One_I don´t know about him but I can askFeb 06 19:50
schestowitzthey'll find some frenchman from ENA to replace him ;-)Feb 06 19:50
One_I know the name onlyFeb 06 19:50
One_no doubt:)Feb 06 19:50
schestowitzOK, I can mention the staff exodusFeb 06 19:50
One_we started amploying people with Afghanistan experience now ... Feb 06 19:50
One_Nadja LefevreFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzseveralFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzyes, also externalFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzlike CRGFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzand their staff knows Nadja, allegedlyFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzKirsch or whateverFeb 06 19:51
One_there was also a UK guy with Afghanistan experienceFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzsome say he met her as a BBC person in AfghFeb 06 19:51
One_in his CV he wrote he spoke:Feb 06 19:51
One_Serbien, Croatian and BosnianFeb 06 19:52
schestowitzsome eastern European languagesFeb 06 19:52
One_which is rubbishFeb 06 19:52
schestowitzhe can speak with Topic and find 'topics' for discussionsFeb 06 19:52
One_there is no Bosnian languageFeb 06 19:52
schestowitzIIRC, Topic isn;'t native CroatianFeb 06 19:52
One_I can´t believe they employed smb like Topic, with his skeletons in the cupboardFeb 06 19:52
schestowitzbefore the balkanisation of the region he came from the area now known as those two long words I can never recallFeb 06 19:53
schestowitzthey have to keep him nowFeb 06 19:53
One_bosnia-herzegovina?Feb 06 19:53
schestowitzrepelling him would be admission of error and guilt by associationFeb 06 19:53
One_of courseFeb 06 19:53
schestowitzyes, that second oneFeb 06 19:53
schestowitzand that's where he studiedFeb 06 19:53
One_they´ll go down all togetherFeb 06 19:53
schestowitzone can hopeFeb 06 19:54
One_we just have to keep stoking the firesFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzmaybe Brimelow is still looking for a jobFeb 06 19:54
XRevan86One_: You're from there?Feb 06 19:54
One_BB cannot survive years of negative publicityFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzword on the street is, two alphamales pushed her outFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzthat Swiss guy and Benoit being prime suspectsFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzI forget the former's name, very Germanic nameFeb 06 19:54
One_I heard about thisFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzBacher somethingFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzLike Gorssbacher Feb 06 19:55
schestowitz*grossFeb 06 19:55
schestowitzhe's still in the nation PO in .chFeb 06 19:55
schestowitzI saw his name there, wouldn't contact him, I think he's loyal to the BB agendaFeb 06 19:55
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schestowitz “Europe is not the same as before the Paris attacks. I am French, president of a big European organization. After the Paris attacks both the French and the German police recommended that I should take measures.”Feb 06 19:56
schestowitzLOLFeb 06 19:56
schestowitzhe had bodyguards beforeFeb 06 19:56
schestowitzI need to write a response to that tomorrowFeb 06 19:57
OneSorry, connection cutFeb 06 19:57
OneYes, in FranceFeb 06 19:57
schestowitz..happensFeb 06 19:57
Onehe´s shamelessFeb 06 19:57
schestowitzBB in the WoTFeb 06 19:57
schestowitzI'm sure that's what ISIS is afterFeb 06 19:57
schestowitzsome spoiled ENA gradFeb 06 19:57
schestowitzin his 60sFeb 06 19:57
Onethere are too many rumours about him:Feb 06 19:58
schestowitzISIS go after the weak and helplessFeb 06 19:58
schestowitznever politiciansFeb 06 19:58
schestowitzunless of course he thinks Judge C is in ISISFeb 06 19:58
Onethat he will prolong here, that he will move to Paris as president of the UPCFeb 06 19:58
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schestowitzhe doesn't have sufficient experience/backgroundFeb 06 19:59
Onethe first thing the press should write is about the secret contractFeb 06 19:59
schestowitzit might be suitable for one of his buddiesFeb 06 19:59
Oneit appears that the AC is signing the budget without knowing his bonusFeb 06 19:59
schestowitzBergot knowsFeb 06 19:59
Oneand only Kongstad knows about itFeb 06 19:59
schestowitzand her husband is BB's protegeFeb 06 20:00
schestowitzOne can easily imagine how he'd exert pressure for payriseFeb 06 20:00
Onehe should be forced to publish his bonus (allegedly over 1 million - 1.4, 1.5)Feb 06 20:00
schestowitzbased on what?Feb 06 20:01
Oneit´s enough for the newspapers to continue writing each time that his contract is secretFeb 06 20:01
schestowitzBrimelow revealed her benefitsFeb 06 20:01
schestowitzcan he get thrice what she did?Feb 06 20:01
OneI guess soFeb 06 20:01
schestowitzoh, well, she's a -gasp -woman...Feb 06 20:01
schestowitzI heard Bergot gave him a 7% payrise, IIRCFeb 06 20:01
Oneshe was relatively honest, maybe even honestFeb 06 20:01
schestowitzsecret payrise on a secret salaryFeb 06 20:02
OneI don´t knowFeb 06 20:02
schestowitzbut he has a post on trasparency in his blogFeb 06 20:02
Onewhich blog?Feb 06 20:02
OneBB?Feb 06 20:02
schestowitzThe Hague sentences referring to “supporting freedom of expression” have an Orwellian doublespeak ring to them.Feb 06 20:02
schestowitzThey did this before, such statements...Feb 06 20:02
schestowitzBB's blog at epo.orgFeb 06 20:02
Oneof course, nothing surprisingFeb 06 20:02
schestowitz!google battostelli epo.org transparencyFeb 06 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - European Patent Office Blog | http://blog.epo.org/Feb 06 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ensuring Transparency - EPO Blog | http://blog.epo.org/the-epo/ensuring-transparency/Feb 06 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Transparency is Sunlight in the Kingdom of the EPO Vampires ... | http://techrights.org/2016/01/12/uploaded-images-with-commentary-and-rebuttal/Feb 06 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Battistelli's EPO Loses 'Customers' Because It Plays 'Favourites' With ... | http://techrights.org/2015/10/28/epo-playing-favourites/Feb 06 20:03
Oneone present always a shining faceFeb 06 20:03
schestowitzsee [2]Feb 06 20:03
Oneaha, I´ll read it laterFeb 06 20:03
schestowitzwell, manute with frangnance morelikeFeb 06 20:03
schestowitzI just need a flow of information to keep publishing about, some sources are now too busy because they're back to work after xmasFeb 06 20:04
OneShould I find out some more interesting stuff I´ll keep you postedFeb 06 20:04
schestowitzDoes anybody know why SUEPO changed the site's CMS for one evening?Feb 06 20:04
OnenoFeb 06 20:04
schestowitzprobably  a test runFeb 06 20:04
OneI guess soFeb 06 20:04
Oneno attackFeb 06 20:04
schestowitznot implied, ever...Feb 06 20:05
schestowitzbut it said c(Feb 06 20:05
Oneso funny, his trip to Latin AmericaFeb 06 20:05
OneCuba?Feb 06 20:05
schestowitz(c) 2016 at the bottomFeb 06 20:05
schestowitzSo I assume it's something in development, the old SUEPO site with Drupal was easier to followFeb 06 20:05
schestowitzalso with RSSFeb 06 20:05
OneWhat on earth can we get frok Cuba (or Cuba from us)?Feb 06 20:05
schestowitzI never heard of patents from thereFeb 06 20:06
schestowitz(I'm sure they have some)Feb 06 20:06
schestowitzpeople in Colombia would patent in the USPTO and other such placesFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzUS companies wouldn't patent much in ChinaFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzno point to itFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzI heard from a guy in Saudi last month about Saudi patentsFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzthe government supports these, but they're crapFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzutter rubbishFeb 06 20:07
Oneof course the US would be their first choiceFeb 06 20:07
OneCuba and Panama don´t count Feb 06 20:07
schestowitz!google scigen egnerate paperFeb 06 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - SCIgen - An Automatic CS Paper Generator | https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/archive/scigen/Feb 06 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - SCIgen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCIgenFeb 06 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Publishers withdraw more than 120 gibberish papers : Nature News ... | http://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763Feb 06 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Mathgen: Randomly generated math papers | http://thatsmathematics.com/mathgen/Feb 06 20:07
schestowitzI recjon some of these patent offices you could submit a random application to and it'd would get acceptedFeb 06 20:08
OneprobablyFeb 06 20:08
schestowitzExaminder: "oh, looks legit... figures, forumlas, where's my stamp..?"Feb 06 20:08
OneI have to go now but thanks for your great contribution. Few people are brave and idealistic nowadaysFeb 06 20:08
schestowitzI have done this for yearsFeb 06 20:09
schestowitzEPO isn't this scary, Topic isFeb 06 20:09
schestowitzhe has history...Feb 06 20:09
schestowitzGlyn wrote an article based on things I had sent him over timeFeb 06 20:10
schestowitzthere's more cmingFeb 06 20:10
schestowitz*coming (in British media)Feb 06 20:10
schestowitz" managed more and more successfully, to bring this European institution into disrepute. It would have been too beautiful. The spineless Administrative Council´s reaction has so far been, in the most fortunate cases, to a"Feb 06 20:12
schestowitzThere's something missing there, after the "to a" partFeb 06 20:12
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PatrickMoorhead/status/696065328741101569Feb 06 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PatrickMoorhead: @fcassia What you bringing in @schestowitz for moral support? Lol. Oh you are a troll. Got it.Feb 06 20:30
schestowitzCheapening of the term "troll"Feb 06 20:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/696069301887856640Feb 06 20:37
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cubexyzwhat does "PX-exclusive" mean?Feb 06 20:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/696075277072515072  https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/696075759807565824Feb 06 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @PatrickMoorhead no need for "support" just wanted 2see if he agreed w me bc I know he often does :-P Free minds,free thoughts @schestowitzFeb 06 21:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/vlfig/status/696094140967350272Feb 06 22:12
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jogm16/status/696094977328177152Feb 06 22:17
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7018944Feb 06 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Terrifying Ted and his Ultra-Conservative Vision for America http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/05/terrifying-ted-and-his-ultra-conservative-vision-america "to dictate to the rest of the world how they should live"Feb 06 22:21
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/696095670579654657Feb 06 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @gnispen @schestowitz perhaps, one day, we’ll have a mushroom cloud as a selfie backdrop! Safer than looking straight at it, I reckon!Feb 06 22:22
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cubexyzlol, I can't run vector linux 7.1 "light"Feb 06 23:39
cubexyzsays it requires PAE compatible CPUFeb 06 23:40
cubexyzoh wait a secFeb 06 23:41
cubexyzyes, I can, I must be thinking of something elseFeb 06 23:41
cubexyzbut I'll lose all the KDE 3.5.10 stuffFeb 06 23:44
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schestowitz[02:32] <MinceR> schestowitz: depending on how they manage the code, it may be easy to see what pieces of code came from m$ via the version control system, thoughJan 31 11:17
schestowitzOr maybe they paid the bsd people to code for themJan 31 11:17
schestowitzwhich is how I interpreted the announcement in the first placeJan 31 11:18
schestowitzlike MS adding to Linux via Novell/Greg K-HJan 31 11:18
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36072/Jan 31 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: What's up with Lynch: Facebook begins mass censorship in EuropeJan 31 11:20
schestowitz"This weekend Jim Lynch was on a tirade on how The Linux Foundation has saved Linux by taking action to keep Karen Sandler, who he calls a "social justice warrior," off the board, going on a rant about SJWs being poison to any project. Today he's upset because Facebook is adopting a policy against racist posts in Europe. Jeez. I used to like reading this guy, but not anymore. It appears as if he's lost his gig with ITWorld, as all of his Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzrecent, more inflammatory posts have been on his own blog."Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz> Today he's upset because Facebook is adopting a policy against racist posts in Europe.Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzWhen "racism" is defined as merely opposing unlimited immigration or truthfully reporting on the actions of recent immigrants, both of which seem to be the case, then there just might be a problem.Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzHe actually sums up the problem quite well in a single paragraph of his article:Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"Let me translate what the words “racist” and “xenophobic” mean in this context: any posts that disagree with the German government’s decision to allow its country to be invaded by young Muslim men from the Middle East. If you oppose that decision and you’re in Europe, be ready to have your Facebook posts removed at any time."Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzNow, you may think he's exaggerating or merely being polemic. Of course, lots of people feel that way about RMS too.Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"People who call others SJWs without their tongues in their cheeks are always exaggerating and paranoid. No exceptions. That said, a broken clock is right twice a day - facebook is bad for you, but facebook attempting to obey they law of a country in which it operates is not evidence of that."Jan 31 11:20
schestowitzLynch:Jan 31 11:20
schestowitz"Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzHi Christine (brideoflinux),Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzSorry you didn't like the posts on my blog. All I can about that is that you might want to skip reading them in the future. Not everything that I write is everybody's cup of tea and you will find everything from technology stuff to zombies (see the recent post about Z Nation...great show!) on my personal blog. Some folks enjoy reading those posts, while others don't. Don't feel bad if you prefer to skip my blog altogether, I won't take Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzoffense if you do. ;)Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzRegarding the post about Facebook, it's important to note that Facebook's policy seems squarely aimed at anybody who disagrees with Angela Merkel's policy about flooding Germany with young Muslim men from the Middle East despite the sexual assaults, rapes and other violence being directed against German women by them. I can't imagine any sane person would consider people expressing opposition to any of that and wanting Germany to close its Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzborders to more young Muslim men as being "racist" or "xenophobic." Sometimes the safety of the citizens of a country (particularly women) warrants immediate action, and I think that this is one of those cases.Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzAnd Facebook is not doing the German people any favor by censoring opposition to Merkel's policy. They are, as usual, putting their profits ahead of any concern about the welfare of their users (in this case German citizens). So I called them out on it in my post, and I make no bones about my dislike of that company. As I stated in my post, the best thing people can do is delete their Facebook accounts altogether (between the censorship, Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzprivacy violations, manipulation, etc. it's an awful service).Jan 31 11:21
schestowitzAnyway, thanks for the feedback. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. :) Jan 31 11:21
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oiaohmschestowitz: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/07/10/facebook-experiments-on-users/    Censorship is only small part of the worry with facebookJan 31 11:33
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msb_ISIL news:  ISIL just murdered 45 people in Damascus, Syria with explosives.  They are also clustered at Syria's largest dam and holding hostages there, to prevent being attacked by bombing, since the dam's destruction would cause immense flooding in Syria and Iraq, and cut off the electricity to a large portion of Syria.Jan 31 12:53
msb_https://www.rt.com/news/330083-tabqa-dam-crisis-isis/Jan 31 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | ISIS escapes Syria airstrikes by hiding at country’s largest dam, using hostages as human shield — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/ogrc8 ]Jan 31 12:55
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OneRemedies against International Organisations von Karel WellensJan 31 12:59
OnePage 214 and forwardJan 31 12:59
schestowitz> http://www.yes-www.org/why-use-www/Jan 31 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yes-www.org | Why use www? – www. is not deprecatedJan 31 13:00
schestowitzDue to some odd issues with apache 3 years ago I never quite managed to remove the canonical forms issues. Techrights does not merge URLs correctly, still... I gave up after lots of attempts at the time.Jan 31 13:00
schestowitzShould I move to to https with letsencrypt? Having 3 different domain may make this a chore, and also renewing the certs every 3-6 months... I got the howtos for it saved... it's for centosJan 31 13:00
schestowitzOne: hiJan 31 13:00
schestowitzcontext?Jan 31 13:00
schestowitzsome book regarding intl' bodies such as EPO?Jan 31 13:01
OneYes, I´ll quote a bit right now, although the passage can be found by simply googlingJan 31 13:01
schestowitzthanks, if you can give the suitable framingJan 31 13:01
schestowitzI'll mention it in a future article (got one in the making right now, regarding the union group's letter to officials in NL)Jan 31 13:02
OneThe human rights imperative may lead to or even require a limitation or rejection by domestic courts of jurisdictional immunity claimed by international organisations, and the actual exercise of the courts´ adjudicatory system.Jan 31 13:03
OneActually the whole page below is very relevant but I cannot copy it.Jan 31 13:04
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One... the forum state will not only be entitled but will be obliged - in the case where the international organisation has not complied with its conventional obligation to provide adequate alternative setlement mechanisms - to deny jurisdictional immunity.Jan 31 13:06
Onepage 214Jan 31 13:06
OneEven more interesting page 215Jan 31 13:06
Onehuman rights violations by international organisations ... Jan 31 13:07
msb_It's in Amazon, but no description or reviews, not surprising at $95 price.Jan 31 13:07
OneI just googled human rights and immunity international organisationsJan 31 13:08
Oneit´s under books.googleJan 31 13:08
OneI´m sure you can get to read the pages cited by googleJan 31 13:09
OneIt´s a slap in the face of the Dutch justice that Minnoye openly said he would refuse to follow any Supreme Court decision. Jan 31 13:10
OneI´ll send you a story about Minnoye one of the following days. I just need to verify one detail.Jan 31 13:11
OneHe´s despised by everybody (and I mean not only examiners).Jan 31 13:12
OneAs far as I know he´s at his second prolongation of service, which should be illegal, since the provisions are that one can only prolong to 67 and he´s passed the mark. But I´ll check also this tomorrow.Jan 31 13:14
OneYou´re doing a great job! You and ipkat are our only outlets ... We´re very grateful for your help ... Jan 31 13:17
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MinceR121753 < schestowitz> Or maybe they paid the bsd people to code for themJan 31 14:44
MinceRthat doesn't sound so badJan 31 14:44
MinceRbut msb_, those games are violentJan 31 14:45
msb_I think feminists object to games portraying violence specifically against women.Jan 31 14:46
MinceRthose "feminists" object to whatever objecting to causes them to feel goodJan 31 14:53
MinceRalso, if there are no women in a violent video game, they whine about thatJan 31 14:53
MinceRand if they're there, they whine about what you saidJan 31 14:54
msb_They object if the game is specifically about men being violent toward women.  Note that your repeated use of the pejorative word "whine" indicates that you are prejudiced, not objective, about the people you're referring to.Jan 31 14:58
MinceRyeah, _i_ am prejudicedJan 31 15:01
MinceRwhy do i have to keep reminding you what crybullies are doing to free software?Jan 31 15:02
msb_This is nice:  Russian GDP went from $200billion/yr to $2Trillion/yr during Putin's leadership.Jan 31 15:03
msb_MinceR: You don't.  You were misrepresenting feminst attitudes toward video games.  You weren't talking about free software at all.Jan 31 15:04
MinceRhttp://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/why-russias-mafia-state-is-so-inefficient/459343.htmlJan 31 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Why Russia's Mafia State Is So Inefficient | Opinion | The Moscow Times [ http://ur1.ca/ogrnb ]Jan 31 15:04
MinceRmsb_: news flash: some video games are free softwareJan 31 15:04
MinceRmsb_: also, we were both talking about crybulliesJan 31 15:05
MinceRwhat crybullies do is relevant to a discussion about crybulliesJan 31 15:05
MinceRunlike putlerJan 31 15:05
msb_Now you're just confusing the discussion.  The connection between SJWs and free software has to do with their attacks on Linus Torvalds, not video games.Jan 31 15:06
MinceRyeah, _i_ am confusing the discussionJan 31 15:06
MinceRbecause crybullies trying to destroy one thing is not relevant at all to crybullies trying to destroy another thingJan 31 15:06
MinceRunlike putin, who's totally relevant to the discussionJan 31 15:06
MinceRright?Jan 31 15:06
schestowitzcrybulliesJan 31 15:07
schestowitzis that like the "I'm offended" crows?Jan 31 15:07
msb_Glad you admit it.  Please don't do it.  You are smart enough to carry on a rational discussion.Jan 31 15:07
MinceRyesJan 31 15:07
schestowitzOr the "safe spaces" crowd?Jan 31 15:07
MinceRalso known as SJWsJan 31 15:07
schestowitzthat's one form of itJan 31 15:07
MinceRmsb_: do some research on sarcasm.Jan 31 15:07
MinceRschestowitz: same thingJan 31 15:07
schestowitzRussian mafiosos are scaryJan 31 15:07
MinceRalso the "HURR VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES ARE TEH EVULZ"Jan 31 15:07
schestowitzI wouldn't write an outspoken blog in RussiaJan 31 15:07
msb_I mentioned Putin because I just heard the GDP increase figures on TV.Jan 31 15:07
MinceRcrowdJan 31 15:07
MinceRand the "DURRRR FREE SOFTWARE IS EVIL" crowdJan 31 15:08
schestowitzmsb_ with his nutty (at times) take on his gov. wouldn't say the same about Putin's gang if he lives in MoscowJan 31 15:08
MinceR"you must adopt our CoC or suffer our wrath!"Jan 31 15:08
MinceRyeahJan 31 15:08
MinceRor if he lived in the eastern blocJan 31 15:08
schestowitzthe very fact that msb_ can say all this and be safe is a testament of free speech in the US, which is better than in the UKJan 31 15:08
MinceRit's easy to cheer for putler from the usaJan 31 15:08
msb_US govt is scary, murdering millions of people to get "regime change" and, along with saudi and turkey, supporting ISIL.Jan 31 15:09
schestowitzit doesn't support ISILJan 31 15:09
schestowitzit supports some who doJan 31 15:09
schestowitzlike Saudi nutters and othersJan 31 15:09
MinceRat least they're doing their best to protect you from your beloved russian governmentJan 31 15:09
schestowitzbblJan 31 15:09
MinceRof course they can't block nuclear winter so you'll starve to death anyway after putler fires off all his nukesJan 31 15:10
msb_Yes it does.  It arms and finances what it calls Syrian moderates, which are actually jihadists who go over to ISIL or run away and leave their weapons for ISIL.Jan 31 15:10
MinceRputler allegedly supports alawitesJan 31 15:11
MinceRlike those are betterJan 31 15:11
MinceRputler also supports his christian cultJan 31 15:11
MinceRwhich is little betterJan 31 15:11
MinceRbut don't let facts get in the way of your north korea-esque propagandaJan 31 15:11
msb_MinceR: Your analysis is as warped as that of NK, not mine.Jan 31 15:12
msb_And note that you are constantly engaging in personal attacks against me.Jan 31 15:13
msb_MinceR: claiming that I am like North Korea is major shit-piggery.Jan 31 15:13
MinceRmsb_: their propaganda is based on the usa being the root of evil, exactly like yoursJan 31 15:13
MinceRmsb_: also, you're confusing yourself with me againJan 31 15:14
MinceRmsb_: you're the one engaging in personal attacksJan 31 15:14
XRevan86What a good day to read #techrights.Jan 31 15:14
msb_If two people say one thing alike that doesn't mean that everything about them is alike.  To claim that is a logical absurdity.Jan 31 15:14
MinceRXRevan86: msb_ is too repetitive to be good to readJan 31 15:15
MinceRit's the same old illogical bullshit every timeJan 31 15:15
msb_MinceR: How have I engaged in personal attacks against you here?Jan 31 15:15
MinceRnorth korea also practices msb_'s favorite form of government ("state socialism")Jan 31 15:15
MinceR161327 < msb_> MinceR: claiming that I am like North Korea is major shit-piggery.Jan 31 15:16
*XRevan86 wants to comment this: GDP would get higher than in 90s under any at least a bit sane government.Jan 31 15:17
msb_MinceR: Now you are out and out lying.  I have said that my favorite form of govt is socialism with worker-owned businesses, like Mondragon.  I have said that many times in response to your lies, but you keep telling the same lies.Jan 31 15:17
MinceRmsb_: you are the one who keeps saying contradictory things about what you believeJan 31 15:18
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msb_Give examples by quoting what I've said.Jan 31 15:18
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MinceRmsb_: like one moment "socialism" is the utopia that assumes humans are good, and the next moment stalinism is "socialism"Jan 31 15:18
MinceRmsb_: but yeah, it must be my fault that you keep flopping between belief elements that contradict each otherJan 31 15:18
msb_I've never said that socialism assumes humans are good, and I have said that stalin practiced authoritarian state socialism, which was bad.Jan 31 15:19
MinceRyeah, you're apparently not even aware of the issues with marx's nutcase theoriesJan 31 15:20
MinceRyou also said that 1) "socialism" is desirable and 2) stalin practiced "socialism"Jan 31 15:20
XRevan86> like one moment "socialism" is the utopia that assumes humans are goodJan 31 15:20
XRevan86Clearly you meant "communism" which is not socialism in any way. (that is still debatable)Jan 31 15:20
MinceRXRevan86: clearly "socialists"/"communists"/"m$n live search"/"bing" don't know what they want or what they want to call themselvesJan 31 15:21
MinceRthey switch labels like m$Jan 31 15:21
msb_The main thing is that people should share and help one another instead of exploiting and competing with one another.Jan 31 15:21
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MinceRXRevan86: the hungarian party of muscovite fascists reorganized itself under 3 different names to try and pretend they're not selling the same ideologyJan 31 15:21
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MinceRi wonder when will people learn that renaming something doesn't make it totally new or goodJan 31 15:21
MinceRprobably not until the point they exterminate themselvesJan 31 15:22
XRevan86MinceR: It's also not ideology.Jan 31 15:22
MinceRXRevan86: yeah, and the next moment it will beJan 31 15:22
msb_I have  posted here the basis of my beliefs, which is The Chalice and the Blade, and its characterization of societies as Partnership or Dominator.Jan 31 15:22
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, people like to twist definitions.Jan 31 15:22
MinceRjust as stalinism is not "socialism"/"communism"/etc. one moment, but it's "socialism"/"communism"/etc. the nextJan 31 15:22
MinceRmsb_: so, what prevents you from recognizing that putler is doing the typical dominator bullshit?Jan 31 15:23
msb_And that Domination in societies is a form of psychopathic behavior.Jan 31 15:23
MinceRso lenin, stalin, putin, etc. are psychopathsJan 31 15:23
MinceRso what?Jan 31 15:23
MinceRalso, i wonder what psychologists think about their future when people can establish complete diagnosis over irc with a minimal amount of factsJan 31 15:24
XRevan86MinceR: Socialism is basically a govenmental/economical system under which socium/communities controls distributions of goods.Jan 31 15:24
MinceRXRevan86: blah blah blahJan 31 15:24
XRevan86and productionJan 31 15:25
msb_and fair distribution of profitsJan 31 15:25
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XRevan86that's not a good definition either thoughJan 31 15:25
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MinceRXRevan86: is an oppressive totalitarian government allowed to call itself "the people"/"community"/"socium" (whatever that is) or not?Jan 31 15:26
XRevan86MinceR: Obviously not.Jan 31 15:26
msb_I think there are many different varieties of socialism, some of which work much better than others.Jan 31 15:26
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XRevan86some even call modern varieties of capitalism "socialism"Jan 31 15:27
MinceRmsb_: but you support all of them regardlessJan 31 15:27
MinceRXRevan86: "democratic socialism"/"social democracy"?Jan 31 15:27
XRevan86MinceR: yesJan 31 15:27
MinceRi think at this point the "communist"/"socialist"/etc. labels don't mean anything at allJan 31 15:28
MinceRthey're applied to everything and its oppositeJan 31 15:28
MinceRto mean either "i approve of this establishment" or "i don't approve of this establishment"Jan 31 15:28
XRevan86MinceR: Substitution of concepts is out there, yes.Jan 31 15:30
XRevan86MinceR: But you're not quite rightJan 31 15:30
XRevan86> I think at this point political labels don't mean anything at allJan 31 15:31
XRevan86MinceR: You didn't generalise properly.Jan 31 15:31
MinceR:>Jan 31 15:31
MinceRyeah, that tooJan 31 15:31
msb_Mondragon, Cuba under Castro, and Nicaragua under (elected Daniel Ortega) are doing well.  Stalin and other USSR leaders were far too authoritarian, however, they were working under the pressure of threats of attack by the Nazis, US, and other capitalist nations, and had to industrialize and manufacture weapons very rapidly.Jan 31 15:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/693815833642946560Jan 31 15:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: No word about/from #eucalyptus since #hp took over. Maybe they just hired all the staff and made it look like $/takeover (typical modus).Jan 31 15:32
msb_that should read    (elected) Daniel OrtegaJan 31 15:32
XRevan86Even conception of democracy is broken these days.Jan 31 15:32
MinceRmany "conservative"s want dramatic changes in the establishment; many "liberal"s are crybullies and are vehemently opposing freedom of speech; many "libertarians" are actually "conservative"s; "socialists"/"communists"/etc. were discussed aboveJan 31 15:33
MinceRi don't know what i left outJan 31 15:33
MinceRmsb_: so authoritarianism is a-ok so long as you can justify it with an external threatJan 31 15:33
XRevan86MinceR: Respesentative democracy.Jan 31 15:33
XRevan86Representative*Jan 31 15:34
MinceRmsb_: news flash: pretty much any authoritarian system does exactly thatJan 31 15:34
MinceRusually the threat is made upJan 31 15:34
msb_MinceR: when you said that I support all varieties of socialism, you are telling the same lie about me that I corrected you on many times before.Jan 31 15:34
MinceRXRevan86: does that still have supporters?Jan 31 15:34
MinceRand of course democracy collapses under the majority being evil idiotsJan 31 15:34
XRevan86MinceR: That's the only kind of governmental control that is common today.Jan 31 15:34
MinceRmsb_: and yet you _again_ implied the ussr was socialistJan 31 15:35
XRevan86practically the only one recognised by the massesJan 31 15:35
MinceRmsb_: you don't even leave a delay between claiming something and its opposite anymore, do you?Jan 31 15:35
MinceRXRevan86: and yet it's usually control by megacorporate corruptors insteadJan 31 15:35
MinceRoh, right, forgot "anarchism"Jan 31 15:35
XRevan86MinceR: See? People don't even know what democracy is.Jan 31 15:36
MinceRmost "anarchist"s are either "communists"/"socialists"/etc., don't recognize that humans are currently incapable of responsible self-governance, or bothJan 31 15:36
msb_In the case of the USSR, the Nazis  did invade and murdered IIRC some 25 million Russians.  And the Nazis had been 75% financed by ultra-wealthy Americans.  So that threat was definitely _not_ made up.Jan 31 15:36
MinceRmsb_: stalin's people murdered more people than the nazis did, iircJan 31 15:36
MinceRmsb_: and mao's people outdid stalins'Jan 31 15:36
MinceRmsb_: but yes, let's focus on which flavor of totalitarian dictatorship we prefer, since we've already settled on wanting totalitarian dictatorship.Jan 31 15:37
msb_MinceR: I said that Stalin used authoritarian state socialism which was a very bad system.  You keep misrepresenting what I've said, and lying about me based on your misrepresentations.Jan 31 15:38
MinceRmsb_: yes, yes, one moment you say it's a very bad system, the next you support itJan 31 15:39
MinceRmsb_: you don't need to repeat it anymore for everyone to notice the patternJan 31 15:39
msb_MinceR: stop lying about me.  I don't favor any totalitarian dictatorship.Jan 31 15:39
MinceRmsb_: yeah, you claim not to while doing soJan 31 15:39
MinceRmsb_: just as you claim you disagree with crybullies attacking Linus, Linux and other free software projects while supporting crybullies violentlyJan 31 15:40
MinceRthis "tactic" wasn't exactly new even in 1949Jan 31 15:40
msb_MinceR: you are lying about me again.  I don't even use the word "crybullies".Jan 31 15:41
MinceRyeah, you call them SJWsJan 31 15:41
MinceRand as we've already seen, labels make all the differenceJan 31 15:41
MinceRso much that nothing else matters anymoreJan 31 15:41
MinceRnot even what the labels were supposed to meanJan 31 15:41
*XRevan86 startpaged SJWJan 31 15:42
XRevan86so that's how those are calledJan 31 15:42
MinceRagain, just like the russian empire: they were doing pretty much the same as nazi germany, which they despised, but it's ok, because they used different symbolsJan 31 15:42
msb_MinceR: As long as you keep distorting and misrepresenting what I say, it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion with you.Jan 31 15:42
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MinceRmsb_: as long as you keep saying things along with their opposite and pretend it's logical, it's impossible to avoid the accusation of "distorting" and "misrepresenting" what you sayJan 31 15:43
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MinceRmsb_: and it's impossible to have a meaningful conversation with youJan 31 15:43
MinceRmsb_: nothing you say has any meaning anymoreJan 31 15:43
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MinceRthis is your newspeakJan 31 15:44
MinceRWar is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.Jan 31 15:44
XRevan86MinceR: Russian Empire didn't have the chance to despise nazis.Jan 31 15:44
MinceRXRevan86: i meant the russian empire that called itself "socialist"Jan 31 15:45
MinceRoh, and "soviet"Jan 31 15:45
MinceRbecause people were councils back thenJan 31 15:45
MinceRor maybe pieces of adviceJan 31 15:45
schestowitzmsb_: MinceR: we always end up talking about Cold War here...Jan 31 15:45
MinceRwhich is now aligned with a christian cultJan 31 15:46
MinceRhttp://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2015/06/putins-crusade-is-russia-the-last-defender-of-the-christian-faith-2491190.htmlJan 31 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beforeitsnews.com | Putin’s Crusade – Is Russia the Last Defender of the Christian Faith? | Religion [ http://ur1.ca/ogrr0 ]Jan 31 15:46
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_%28council%29Jan 31 15:46
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schestowitz!google bush trust putin wear a crossJan 31 15:46
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MinceRschestowitz: msb_ advocates authoritarianism like he's being paid to do itJan 31 15:46
schestowitzhe's disenchanted and feels disenfranchised with US capitalismJan 31 15:47
XRevan86> http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/14/bush-explains-his-comment-about-putins-soul-says-russian-leader-changedJan 31 15:47
XRevan86Wow, that's incredibly dull.Jan 31 15:47
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schestowitzBut that doesn't mean USSR was any easier on peopleJan 31 15:47
XRevan86> any easierJan 31 15:47
XRevan86schestowitz: As you said "any", yes, USSR was in ways easier on people :).Jan 31 15:48
schestowitzsome people vote for radical right because of national issuesJan 31 15:48
MinceR"but i prefer to be tortured on the rack, not in the iron maiden!"Jan 31 15:48
schestowitzwhich have them assume that xenophobia and greater state powers are the solutionJan 31 15:48
MinceR"but this turd has sprinkles on it!"Jan 31 15:48
schestowitzXRevan86: many left when it came down burningJan 31 15:49
schestowitzI don't know of people escaping from US/UK/NATO to RussiaJan 31 15:49
schestowitzCouldn't name a single oneJan 31 15:49
schestowitzand it's not because of Russian immigration law or language barriersJan 31 15:49
MinceRalso, for some reason it were the "commies" who built the iron curtain and the berlin wallJan 31 15:50
MinceRsomehow only their people wanted to escape to the other sideJan 31 15:50
schestowitz'their'Jan 31 15:50
MinceRand somehow only they wanted to prevent thisJan 31 15:50
MinceRwell, in their case, we can say "their slaves"Jan 31 15:50
XRevan86I wonder where Depardieu lives now.Jan 31 15:50
MinceR:>Jan 31 15:50
schestowitzCraig Paul Roberts and that guy who founded Global Research like the Russian propagandaJan 31 15:51
schestowitzbut neither lives in RussiaJan 31 15:51
schestowitzbased on blogspot localisation it seems like one is in MexicoJan 31 15:51
schestowitzthe other probably still in CanadaJan 31 15:51
MinceRit's easier and safer to advertise russia from far awayJan 31 15:51
MinceRso that you don't have to actually endure what you preachJan 31 15:52
MinceRmsb_ knows this very wellJan 31 15:52
schestowitzit's easy to support russian propaganda without facing the severe consequences of living in RussiaJan 31 15:52
XRevan86schestowitz: Well, that would be hard explain...Jan 31 15:52
XRevan86to explain*Jan 31 15:52
schestowitzbecause it seems alluring when you see some of the crap that's going on in the West, not in Hollywood (cinema)Jan 31 15:52
MinceRuntil you see some of the crap that's going on in russia and in the eastern blocJan 31 15:52
MinceRand in NK, and red china, etc.Jan 31 15:52
XRevan86But since you switched from USSR to Russia, it would be even harderJan 31 15:52
schestowitzsame thing almost...Jan 31 15:53
schestowitzlike England, UKJan 31 15:53
MinceRapparently labels are everythingJan 31 15:53
schestowitzplus the time dimensionJan 31 15:53
schestowitzputin is a USSR personJan 31 15:53
MinceRwell, england is just a part of the ukJan 31 15:53
schestowitzand his confidants and oligarchs (USSR raiders) tooJan 31 15:53
MinceRand england stopped being a state on its own long ago, afaikJan 31 15:53
XRevan86schestowitz: Not from my perspective.Jan 31 15:53
msb_XRevan86: Are you happy living in Russia?Jan 31 15:53
schestowitzlegacy of the previous incarnation, before "Union" became "federation"Jan 31 15:54
MinceRmsb_: are you happy living outside russia?Jan 31 15:54
XRevan86msb_: I don't have perspective on that.Jan 31 15:54
schestowitzI had friends from RussiaJan 31 15:55
schestowitzthey had left itJan 31 15:55
XRevan86Basically I'm not happy, but I'm not happy because of many things.Jan 31 15:55
schestowitzand they didn't have much good to sayJan 31 15:55
schestowitzCold, no jobs, oppressiveJan 31 15:55
msb_MinceR: yes, but scared of US govt.Jan 31 15:55
schestowitzrightly soJan 31 15:55
schestowitzlike RussiaJan 31 15:55
schestowitzeveryone should be afraid from the USJan 31 15:56
schestowitzit's that whom you're afraid of that controls youJan 31 15:56
schestowitz(or afraid of criticising)Jan 31 15:56
MinceRnot sure if there's a benefit to being afraidJan 31 15:56
schestowitzmost people don't bother saying anything about the US, so they're not afraid. They "play safe'Jan 31 15:56
MinceRbut recognizing that we're under threat from the us, from the russian empire and from other religious fundamentalist states, yesJan 31 15:56
msb_Obviously I do criticize the USG, and I am afraid of it.  It lied about 911 and has murdered millions of people since.Jan 31 15:57
schestowitzMinceR: not just religious statesJan 31 15:58
schestowitzChina and NK aren't motivated or tied together by religionJan 31 15:58
XRevan86I have grandparents in UK. Some years ago it was considered to (re)visit them but... prices in UK are somewhere in clouds.Jan 31 15:58
schestowitzit's nationalism, like it was in Germany.... religion just wraps it up a bitJan 31 15:58
schestowitzthe 'identity" angleJan 31 15:58
schestowitzchinito eyes would be more like that in ChinaJan 31 15:58
schestowitzhelps identify the "others"Jan 31 15:59
*XRevan86 gived away some personal info to the public, oh well.Jan 31 15:59
schestowitze.g. Muslims, uighurs Jan 31 15:59
msb_There is no danger of attack by Russia against the West.  Russia has been very well-behaved during this century.Jan 31 15:59
MinceRafaik they worship their dictators as gods in NKJan 31 15:59
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UyghursJan 31 15:59
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MinceRred china is nominally communist/etc. which is about as nutty as christianityJan 31 16:00
XRevan86I'd say there is no danger of attack by Russia against the West because it's suicidal for Russia.Jan 31 16:00
MinceRi doubt they care anymoreJan 31 16:01
MinceRthey fervently believe that the afterlife is more important than this life (christianity)Jan 31 16:01
XRevan86MinceR: Everybody wants to live.Jan 31 16:01
MinceRno, not everybodyJan 31 16:01
MinceRdevout abrahamics especially notJan 31 16:01
msb_Mutual Assured Destruction.  But Russia has not shown any interest in attacking anyone in this century, unlike the US.Jan 31 16:01
MinceRreligion breaks Mutual Assured DestructionJan 31 16:01
MinceRalso, putler is desperateJan 31 16:01
XRevan86MinceR: No, christianity in Russia is not fundementalistial.Jan 31 16:02
XRevan86it tries to be, but nahJan 31 16:02
schestowitzRussia did...Jan 31 16:02
schestowitzincluding after the Bolsheviks' revolutionJan 31 16:02
XRevan86fundamentalisticalJan 31 16:02
MinceRXRevan86: actually, putler is in cahoots with at least one cult, which is afaik by definition fundamentalismJan 31 16:02
schestowitzwhich put central Europe in a panicJan 31 16:02
XRevan86MinceR: Russian government wants opium to be available for people.Jan 31 16:03
MinceRso?Jan 31 16:03
XRevan86No, not that. Russian government wants people to get opium.Jan 31 16:03
MinceRso?Jan 31 16:03
schestowitzpeople who want it get it anywayJan 31 16:03
schestowitze.g. from US-occupied afghanistanJan 31 16:03
MinceRkiddie-fuckers regularly give wine to people at massJan 31 16:03
schestowitzit's just a question or price and riskJan 31 16:04
MinceRreligion and drugs go hand in handJan 31 16:04
schestowitzand risk (of arrest) drives up the priceJan 31 16:04
XRevan86MinceR: It doesn't mean anybody actually gives a damn about G-d in government.Jan 31 16:04
schestowitz!google opium production under us occupaitonJan 31 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Opium production in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_AfghanistanJan 31 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. ... | http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053Jan 31 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Afghan Opium Production Increases 35-Fold Since U.S. Invasion ... | http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/10/afghan-opium-production-increases-35-fold-since-u-s-invasion/Jan 31 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Real Afghanistan Surge is in Heroin Production and Tripled ... | http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/the-real-afghanistan-surge-is-in-heroin-production-and-tripled-opium-cultivation-since-the-us-military-arrived-un-and-us-government-documents.htmlJan 31 16:04
MinceRXRevan86: yeah, i guess some of them believe _they_ are "G-d"Jan 31 16:04
MinceRlike putin's faithful apprentice, viktor orbanJan 31 16:04
schestowitzWho's gid?Jan 31 16:04
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Jan 31 16:04
schestowitzgroup id?Jan 31 16:04
MinceRit's probably meant to be "God" which just means yahwehJan 31 16:05
schestowitzJehojahJan 31 16:05
XRevan86schestowitz: It's a jewish way of writing "god". For some reason it feels like mocking for me.Jan 31 16:05
schestowitzI'm going to hell from reading literally a work :-)Jan 31 16:05
MinceRanother horrible role modelJan 31 16:05
schestowitz*forJan 31 16:05
schestowitzXRevan86: there's the belief that uttering the name is not allowedJan 31 16:06
schestowitzeven if it's written right there literallyJan 31 16:06
XRevan86schestowitz: I know.Jan 31 16:06
schestowitzsuperstition taken to nutty levelsJan 31 16:06
MinceRi thought that appled to yahweh or whatever it wasJan 31 16:06
MinceRi guess some people are really committed to making the taboo cycle spinJan 31 16:06
schestowitzlike fear is masturbatingJan 31 16:06
MinceRsoon "G-d" will be a taboo tooJan 31 16:07
MinceRi wonder what comes nextJan 31 16:07
MinceR"G--"? "--d"? "---"?Jan 31 16:07
schestowitzwhich is something 99% of people will inevitably do anyway, it's just means for controlling people through guilt and fearJan 31 16:07
XRevan86$DEITYNAMEJan 31 16:07
schestowitzLike "original sin"Jan 31 16:07
schestowitzMaking people guilty since birthJan 31 16:07
schestowitzor conceptionJan 31 16:07
msb_XRevan86: How is the Russian economy?  Can people get work?  Can they get enough food?  A place to live?  Medical care?Jan 31 16:07
MinceRyeah, another thing allegedly typical of dictatorships: you can't avoid violating the law while you liveJan 31 16:07
schestowitzmsb_: depends where, from what I understand...Jan 31 16:08
MinceRso if they want to lock you up or execute you, they always have an excuseJan 31 16:08
schestowitzSome places have become run-down old era buildings with poor infrastructure and much opium addictionJan 31 16:08
MinceRmsb_: read up on what russians did when the price of oil dropped a littleJan 31 16:08
schestowitzso if you don't die from the cold in these places, like those in Ukraine famine, you're kind of well off... that's aside from the Big Cities, which cost a lot more to live inJan 31 16:09
XRevan86msb_: In Leningrad / St. Petersburg?Jan 31 16:09
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2012_Russia_Products_Export_Treemap.pngJan 31 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:2012 Russia Products Export Treemap.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrsx ]Jan 31 16:09
MinceRthis is not what a healthy economy looks like.Jan 31 16:09
schestowitzXRevan86: those are good citiesJan 31 16:09
XRevan86schestowitz: Cities?Jan 31 16:09
schestowitzlike saying Cardiff or Edinburgh hereJan 31 16:09
schestowitzLondon being like MoscowJan 31 16:09
schestowitzYou cannot judge UK lifestyle based on LondonJan 31 16:10
schestowitzwhich is like a country within a countryJan 31 16:10
schestowitzlook at Lutin, Blackburd, Leeds...Jan 31 16:10
schestowitz*LutonJan 31 16:10
msb_XRevan86: any place you can tell us about.Jan 31 16:10
schestowitzLOL, must have though of PutinJan 31 16:10
schestowitzLutin Airport...Jan 31 16:10
schestowitzI know quite well an old lady (~50) who studied engineering in Russia and became just an ordinary cookJan 31 16:11
XRevan86msb_: Okay, so I'll say what I think about where I live in.Jan 31 16:11
XRevan86I live in a Urban-type settlement on the edge of St. Petersburg.Jan 31 16:12
msb_Aren't Leningrad and St. Petersburg two names for the same city?Jan 31 16:12
schestowitzBeijing and HK are quite nice in China, but only the super-rich and their slaves can live thereJan 31 16:12
XRevan86msb_: They totally are.Jan 31 16:12
MinceRputin airportJan 31 16:12
schestowitz!google luton airportJan 31 16:12
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schestowitzTim of techbytes was from LutonJan 31 16:13
MinceR"quite nice" if you don't mind not having any rightsJan 31 16:13
MinceRoh, and you don't need to breatheJan 31 16:13
MinceRwhich is a bit of a challenge at least in beijingJan 31 16:13
schestowitz[16:13] <MinceR> "quite nice" if you don't mind not having any rightsJan 31 16:14
schestowitzHK has rightsJan 31 16:14
schestowitzfor now at leastJan 31 16:14
MinceRso why did the people protest recently?Jan 31 16:14
XRevan86And it would be a nice place to live (Ust'-Izzhora nearby, one can just walk there and enjoy) if only it wouldn't be the road connection to the St. Petersburg itself.Jan 31 16:14
XRevan86Izhora*Jan 31 16:15
XRevan86In peak hours one can ride from it to the nearest subway for like an hour.Jan 31 16:16
XRevan86drive* %)Jan 31 16:16
schestowitz[16:14] <MinceR> so why did the people protest recently?Jan 31 16:17
schestowitzbecause they still couldJan 31 16:17
MinceRahJan 31 16:17
schestowitz!google protest china student rightsJan 31 16:17
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989Jan 31 16:17
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MinceRso if people protest it means everything's all rightJan 31 16:17
MinceRthat's why people don't protest in hungaristanJan 31 16:17
schestowitzin China it's hard to even organise protestsJan 31 16:17
XRevan86and that's 5 kmJan 31 16:17
schestowitzMinceR: a country with protest isn't the bestJan 31 16:18
msb_RT has been covering protests by some Russians who can't pay their dollar-denominated mortgages anymore because the rouble has declined with respect to the dollar.Jan 31 16:18
schestowitzbest is one where people see no need to potestJan 31 16:18
schestowitzworse is where people see the need to protest but are to afraid toJan 31 16:18
schestowitzdefeatismJan 31 16:18
schestowitzthat's PRCJan 31 16:18
XRevan86Rouble is twice as cheap as it was two years ago.Jan 31 16:19
msb_So some people getting paid in roubles can no longer afford to make mortgage payments in dollars.Jan 31 16:20
schestowitzXRevan86: "cheap" is a euphemismJan 31 16:20
msb_At least they are not afraid to protest, in big crowds.Jan 31 16:20
schestowitzyou mean devalued, or worth lessJan 31 16:20
XRevan86schestowitz: yesJan 31 16:20
schestowitzit's only good for export economyJan 31 16:20
schestowitzand Putin does a good job attracting sanctions against thatJan 31 16:21
schestowitzso imports harm RussiansJan 31 16:21
schestowitzRussia doesn't make that much stuff, it imports like China, which trades in its Yuan or maybe DollarsJan 31 16:21
msb_Putin didn't do anything to "attract sanctions".Jan 31 16:21
schestowitzahJan 31 16:21
schestowitzXRevan86: I suggest you swap with msb_Jan 31 16:21
schestowitzget a nice place in New Jersey IIRCJan 31 16:22
schestowitzmsb_ will have just a few months more to liveJan 31 16:22
msb_The US set up a Nazi government in Ukraine, and Putin had to protect the people in Crimea.Jan 31 16:22
MinceRst. putin didn't do anythingJan 31 16:22
MinceRagain the tired old putin propagandaJan 31 16:22
MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqmboHoCcAAgE8z.jpgJan 31 16:22
schestowitzPutin protected Crimea like Israel protects GazaJan 31 16:22
XRevan86> ethnic RussiansJan 31 16:23
XRevan86That is just dull.Jan 31 16:23
schestowitzMinceR: stay classyJan 31 16:23
MinceRapparently msb_ prefers to live under the jurisdiction of a government he believes to be "nazi" as opposed to one he doesn't believe to be "nazi"Jan 31 16:23
MinceRwhat does this tell us about msb_?Jan 31 16:23
schestowitzMinceR: EPO threatened to sue me, they said, to "protect" EPO staffJan 31 16:23
schestowitzand "their families" or something like thatJan 31 16:23
MinceRschestowitz: i guess i'll just have to hide and leave the country thenJan 31 16:23
schestowitzand they "respect freedom of the press," they told the media... after threatening to sueJan 31 16:24
MinceRwhich i'll probably have to do anywayJan 31 16:24
msb_A million ethnic Russians fled from Crimea to Russia before it was annexed.Jan 31 16:24
XRevan86Ethnically speaking Ukrainians are more Russian than a lot of Russians. Not that that is bad, just that's it.Jan 31 16:24
MinceRbecause of putler's apprenticeJan 31 16:24
XRevan86for some reasons people keep forgetting thatJan 31 16:24
MinceRhttp://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/nataliia-protasova-referendum-at-gunpoint-339628.htmlJan 31 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kyivpost.com | Nataliia Protasova: Referendum at gunpoint [ http://ur1.ca/ogrur ]Jan 31 16:24
schestowitzmsb_: your pro-Russia slant is being ridiculed by a Russian, tooJan 31 16:24
schestowitzI find that funnyJan 31 16:24
MinceRschestowitz: obviously that means that everybody in the world is crazy, except msb_ Jan 31 16:25
schestowitzmsb_: are you an ethnic American?Jan 31 16:25
msb_I am medically unwell and have a lot of stuff.  Moving would be very difficult for me.Jan 31 16:25
schestowitz(serious question)Jan 31 16:25
XRevan86I'm not managing to keep up with the chat, BTW.Jan 31 16:25
msb_I was born here.Jan 31 16:25
schestowitzmsb_: are you an ethnic American?Jan 31 16:26
MinceRmsb_: why did your ancestors move to the usa?Jan 31 16:26
schestowitzand where fromJan 31 16:26
msb_schestowitz: I don't know what that means.Jan 31 16:26
schestowitzProbably something like east EuropeJan 31 16:26
schestowitzmsb_: are you an ethnic American?Jan 31 16:27
msb_I think my grandparents came to the US from Ukraine in the 1920s.Jan 31 16:27
XRevan86I wanted to comment about healthcare and forgot.Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzmsb_: why?Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzbefore the famine?Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzStalin "punishing" ukraine?Jan 31 16:27
msb_schestowitz: I don't know.Jan 31 16:27
XRevan86msb_: In order to answer about healthcare in Russia I'd have to ask how is it in US.Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzand before Hitler rose to power and started the war?Jan 31 16:27
MinceRi'm sure it was actually Yeltsin with his time machine :>Jan 31 16:27
schestowitzmaybe if the US didn't welcome them they'd have starved in UkraineJan 31 16:28
MinceRisn't that right, msb_?Jan 31 16:28
schestowitzor be sent to camps in Poland, or be killed in PogromsJan 31 16:28
schestowitzImagine their own views on Russia at the timeJan 31 16:28
XRevan861920 is the time of the Civil WarJan 31 16:28
msb_XRevan86: Most Americans have healthcare of some kind, but we have to pay for the large  profits of medical insurance corporations.Jan 31 16:28
schestowitzthe US welcomed your ancestors, it seems...Jan 31 16:28
schestowitzrescued them from Russia and Germany (both sides)Jan 31 16:29
XRevan86Whites vs. RedsJan 31 16:29
schestowitzin US?Jan 31 16:29
schestowitzThat was well beforehandJan 31 16:29
schestowitz!google year knee massacreJan 31 16:29
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schestowitz1890 and that was around the end of all these conflictsJan 31 16:30
XRevan86msb_: I didn't pay for insurance.Jan 31 16:30
msb_It was a decade or two later that ultra-wealthy Americans started supporting Hitler's war buildup.Jan 31 16:30
schestowitzThe invaders basically 'pacified' (defeated) the indigenous populationJan 31 16:30
schestowitzThey did this in the Philippines about 15 years larerJan 31 16:30
schestowitzkills the resistors, whom they called "niggers"Jan 31 16:30
XRevan86msb_: Remember I was talking with you about health issues?Jan 31 16:30
schestowitzkills->killedJan 31 16:31
msb_yes.  How are you doing with that?Jan 31 16:31
schestowitz(And tortures, with waterboarding)Jan 31 16:31
XRevan86msb_: Seems better.Jan 31 16:31
MinceRsounds like somebody hasn't heard of this >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_PactJan 31 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrve ]Jan 31 16:31
msb_XRevan86: Great!Jan 31 16:31
XRevan86msb_: Point is: I paid for medications but not the doctors.Jan 31 16:31
msb_Excellent (as long as meds are inexpensive).Jan 31 16:32
schestowitzand effective..Jan 31 16:32
XRevan86msb_: expensiveness of medications is very relativeJan 31 16:32
msb_XRevan86: Russia has the same drugs available as the US, right?Jan 31 16:33
XRevan86msb_: I really have no idea.Jan 31 16:33
XRevan86some are imported, some aren'tJan 31 16:33
XRevan86medications is one of the things Russia actually producesJan 31 16:34
XRevan86Probably because USSR did, and production wasn't demolished completely.Jan 31 16:34
XRevan86in 90sJan 31 16:34
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msb_XRevan86: I don't know exactly when my ancestors came to the US.  In fact, I only think they were from Ukraine because my grandmother mentioned a city name, which I remembered and looked up a year or two ago.Jan 31 16:39
XRevan86msb_: Not enough infoJan 31 16:43
XRevan86Odd that US and not France or Germany.Jan 31 16:44
schestowitzmsb_: but you have 4 grandparentsJan 31 16:45
MinceRwell, the us used to welcome immigrantsJan 31 16:45
schestowitzand they too had migrated beforehand, and their ancestors may have had, tooJan 31 16:45
schestowitzwere they "ethical Ukranians"?Jan 31 16:45
MinceRnot ethnical?Jan 31 16:46
schestowitzMinceR: it still does, the richer ones...Jan 31 16:46
schestowitzor the poor ones who become low cost labour to that former groupsJan 31 16:46
schestowitzlike fruit pickersJan 31 16:46
schestowitz"banada republic"Jan 31 16:46
msb_The city was Zhitomir, which also was the residence for a time of one Hayim Nahman Bialik, which is similar to my family name Bilk.  He became the national poet of (gag!) Israel.Jan 31 16:47
XRevan86schestowitz: Too early for Ukrainian ethnicality.Jan 31 16:47
msb_schestowitz: That's all I know about my family's origins.Jan 31 16:47
XRevan86* Ukrainian ethnic self-consciousnessJan 31 16:48
schestowitzso the US absorbs them before the mess, at least your grandpaJan 31 16:48
schestowitzUkriane was more a victim of Stalin than of Hitler AFAIKJan 31 16:49
schestowitzChomsky faces similar criticismJan 31 16:49
MinceRdon't underestimate a stalinist's ability to twist facts inside out to somehow blame hitler and/or the USA for that tooJan 31 16:49
schestowitzI think one of his parents was from LithuaniaJan 31 16:49
schestowitzthe other from that region tooJan 31 16:49
schestowitzso when he slams US foreign policies this is brought upJan 31 16:50
schestowitzAt least he isn't defending RussiaJan 31 16:50
schestowitzor StalinJan 31 16:50
XRevan86schestowitz: How come?Jan 31 16:50
schestowitzOliver Stone doesJan 31 16:50
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_StoneJan 31 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Oliver Stone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrx8 ]Jan 31 16:51
XRevan86> Ukriane was more a victim of Stalin than of Hitler AFAIKJan 31 16:53
XRevan86It all depends on how you define "Ukraine".Jan 31 16:53
XRevan86I wouldn't recommend to bring all that up though.Jan 31 16:53
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_UkraineJan 31 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | History of Ukraine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogrxi ]Jan 31 16:54
schestowitz"Ukraine emerges as the concept of a nation, and the Ukrainians as a nationality, with the Ukrainian National Revival in the mid-18th century, in the wake of the peasant revolt of 1768/69 and the eventual partition of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. Galicia fell to the Austrian Empire, and the rest of Ukraine to the Russian Empire."Jan 31 16:55
schestowitz"Ukraine first became independent with the Ukrainian War of Independence of 1917 to 1921, but the resulting Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (in 1919 merged from the Ukrainian People's Republic and West Ukrainian People's Republic) was quickly subsumed in the Soviet Union."Jan 31 16:55
schestowitz"The Soviet famine of 1932–33 or Holodomor killed an estimated 6 to 8 million people in the Soviet Union, the majority of them in Ukraine."Jan 31 16:56
schestowitzSo the concept of this nation did existJan 31 16:56
XRevan86schestowitz: Concepts did existJan 31 16:56
XRevan86schestowitz: But weren't popular in XIX century in people's minds.Jan 31 16:56
schestowitz"Nazi Germany with its allies invaded the Soviet Union in 1941. Many Ukrainians initially regarded the Wehrmacht soldiers as liberators from Soviet rule, while others formed a partisan movement. Some elements of the Ukrainian nationalist underground formed a Ukrainian Insurgent Army that fought both Soviet forces and the Nazi. Others collaborated with the Germans."Jan 31 16:56
XRevan86One of Lenin's ideas was having Ukraine as a Soviet state.Jan 31 16:57
XRevan86so the idea was bringed upJan 31 16:57
XRevan86and later after that Ukrainian nationalism risen as an anti-Soviet movement.Jan 31 16:58
schestowitzbecause of the recent historyJan 31 16:59
XRevan86and Nazi helped, so... Hitler was a much better guy for independent Ukraine than Stalin was, naturally.Jan 31 16:59
XRevan86Nazis*Jan 31 16:59
msb_Immediately after the Bolshevik Revolution, Russia was invaded by armies from several capitalist nations, who murdered millions of Russians.  This was long before Stalin abused Ukraine or the Soviets did much of anything wrong.  The capitalist nations attacked the USSR because socialism threatened the profits of ultra-wealthy capitalists.  That's the same reason that some ultra-wealthy Americans provided 75% of the money for Hitler's Jan 31 17:00
msb_military buildup -- to have him destroy socialism in the USSR and in Europe (where it was getting quite popular).Jan 31 17:00
XRevan86But in 1920 it was all not yet successful.Jan 31 17:00
MinceRagain, msb_ calls stalinism "socialism"Jan 31 17:00
MinceRdidn't take longJan 31 17:00
schestowitzI have an idea for derailing the Sanders campaignJan 31 17:01
schestowitzmake msb_ a vocal proponent onlineJan 31 17:01
MinceRlolJan 31 17:01
msb_XRevan86:  You mean the invasion in 1920 did not succeed in destroying socialism in the USSR?Jan 31 17:01
XRevan86msb_: No, I meant that idea of Ukrainian nation was not yet there in people's minds massively back in 1920s.Jan 31 17:02
schestowitz"His father was born on September 19, 1904, in Słopnice, Poland" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_SandersJan 31 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogryf ]Jan 31 17:02
MinceRany relation to Colonel Sanders?Jan 31 17:02
schestowitz"A guy named Adolf Hitler won an election in 1932. He won an election, and 50 million people died as a result"Jan 31 17:02
MinceRnazis today love to brag about how their idols came to power by winning elections tooJan 31 17:03
schestowitz"Sanders's elder brother, Larry Sanders, lives in England.[40] He was a Green Party county councillor representing the East Oxford division on Oxfordshire County Council, until he retired from the Council in 2013.'Jan 31 17:03
schestowitzDidn't know that..Jan 31 17:03
msb_MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!  First of all, Stalinism did not exist in 1920.  Second, there are good and bad forms of socialism.  Stalinism was a bad form, as I have said many times, when you keep lying about me.Jan 31 17:04
MinceRright, this time msb_ called leninism "socialism"Jan 31 17:04
MinceRsame thing, with slightly less killingJan 31 17:04
MinceRso much better!Jan 31 17:04
MinceRsee, kids, totalitarian dictatorship is totally OK, so long as you use the right symbols (hammer+sickle, red star) and kill a bit fewer people!Jan 31 17:05
MinceRmsb_: so, leninism is a "good form" of "socialism"?Jan 31 17:05
*MinceR wonders where the threshold isJan 31 17:05
XRevan86MinceR: What is leninism?Jan 31 17:05
MinceRXRevan86: lenin's brand of "socialist"/"communist"/etc. totalitarian dictatorship, which was then developed further by his apprentice stalinJan 31 17:06
XRevan86MinceR: Sorry, I didn't read Lenin's work.Jan 31 17:06
MinceRXRevan86: have you seen his legacy?Jan 31 17:07
XRevan86MinceR: He didn't do much.Jan 31 17:07
XRevan86he died earlyJan 31 17:07
schestowitz[person's name]ism is just a person's legacyJan 31 17:07
MinceRanother way to make dictatorship acceptable: die quickly!Jan 31 17:07
schestowitzeasily to define than labels like Socialism, unlike MarxismJan 31 17:08
MinceR"socialists" fought hard to strip the label "socialism" of all meaningJan 31 17:08
msb_Lenin was also too authoritarian, but since the capitalist nations had alread invaded Russia and murdered millions of Russians, Lenin knew that the USSR had to industrialize rapidly to defend against more capitalist military attacks.Jan 31 17:08
schestowitzMinceR: die quickly..Jan 31 17:08
schestowitz!google rreplican plan die quickly..Jan 31 17:08
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MinceRyeah, the external enemy excuseJan 31 17:08
MinceRmakes everything acceptableJan 31 17:08
schestowitz!google republican plan die quickly..Jan 31 17:08
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MinceRmsb_: guess what, hitler's dictatorship had external enemies too (and internal ones as well)Jan 31 17:09
XRevan86MinceR: So he ruled during the civil war.Jan 31 17:09
msb_MinceR: Not relevant to USSR.Jan 31 17:09
XRevan86then became a cabbage and died from syphilisJan 31 17:10
MinceRmsb_: could you show me the function that determines whether something is relevant to USSR?Jan 31 17:10
MinceRoh wait, it's called random()Jan 31 17:10
XRevan86some dictatorshipJan 31 17:10
msb_When people are lethally attacked, they become more willing to accept authoritarian rule in order that it  protect them.Jan 31 17:10
MinceRah, so that's why you're so fond of such attacksJan 31 17:11
msb_In Wilhelm Reich terminology, this is called "becoming armored".Jan 31 17:11
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Lenin-last-photo.jpgJan 31 17:12
msb_MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!  I have never said that I'm fond of lethal attacks.Jan 31 17:12
schestowitzit looks like Lenin stands next to LeninJan 31 17:12
XRevan86schestowitz: Huh?Jan 31 17:13
schestowitzwhich is probably what it is, brother or fatherJan 31 17:13
schestowitzhe looks like Che with a hat hereJan 31 17:13
XRevan86I don't see similiaritiesJan 31 17:13
schestowitzsame hat, tooJan 31 17:13
MinceRmsb_: not with those exact words?Jan 31 17:13
MinceRmsb_: why deny you've said something when everything you say is meaningless anyway?Jan 31 17:14
msb_MinceR: Not with any words.  If you say I have, then quote me exactly, giving the date.Jan 31 17:14
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Ленин_в_Горках_%281923%29.jpg and another oneJan 31 17:14
MinceR"colorless green ideas sleep furiously"Jan 31 17:14
XRevan86Dictator that doesn't dictate.Jan 31 17:15
MinceRnow show us pictures of hitler as a baby to prove he wasn't a dictator eitherJan 31 17:15
XRevan86MinceR: That was shortly after the civil war.Jan 31 17:15
MinceRplumbing new depths of argumentationJan 31 17:15
MinceRXRevan86: the civil war that led to the ussr?Jan 31 17:16
XRevan86MinceR: No, civil war that was shortly after the revolution.Jan 31 17:16
XRevan86MinceR: Soviets were against Emperor, Church and god himself.Jan 31 17:17
XRevan86people revoltedJan 31 17:17
MinceRlolJan 31 17:18
MinceR"god himself"Jan 31 17:18
XRevan86MinceR: yes :)Jan 31 17:18
MinceRthey certainly knew very well whose side a person who never existed stood onJan 31 17:18
XRevan86MinceR: Especially that's true for villages.Jan 31 17:18
XRevan86People believed in Emperor and mysticism.Jan 31 17:19
XRevan86and then suddenly power is in hands of "godless" non-Romanov'sJan 31 17:20
XRevan86(atheists)Jan 31 17:20
XRevan86(Romanov is a surname of the last dynasty)Jan 31 17:21
MinceRso then they deified some of those non-romanovsJan 31 17:21
MinceRput their pictures everywhereJan 31 17:21
MinceRbelieved their words without criticismJan 31 17:21
XRevan86MinceR: You're confusing with Stalin.Jan 31 17:21
MinceReven though they were clearly nonsenseJan 31 17:21
MinceRXRevan86: at least in hungaristan, lenin was deified as wellJan 31 17:21
XRevan86Civil War was before Stalin's reign.Jan 31 17:21
MinceRthough not necessary in his lifeJan 31 17:21
XRevan86MinceR: Stalin created a cult of Lenin (not my words).Jan 31 17:22
MinceRand of himselfJan 31 17:22
XRevan86MinceR: yesJan 31 17:22
XRevan86but that's afterJan 31 17:22
MinceRthe derivative of this is still ongoing (and taken to further extremes) in north koreaJan 31 17:22
XRevan86MinceR: yeasJan 31 17:22
XRevan86yes*Jan 31 17:22
MinceRthe first necrocracy on earth :>Jan 31 17:22
XRevan86MinceR: Not the first one.Jan 31 17:24
XRevan86MinceR: Remember religion-based states.Jan 31 17:24
XRevan86with icons of dead people and worshippers of thoseJan 31 17:24
MinceRdid those have a dead person as the official leader?Jan 31 17:25
XRevan86Jesus here is pretty much like Lenin, he himself didn't do much.Jan 31 17:25
XRevan86MinceR: yesJan 31 17:25
MinceR:)Jan 31 17:25
msb_MinceR: The US murdered 30% of the people in North Korea in the Korean War, many by dropping jellied gasoline on them.  Imagine how you would feel if that happened to you or your family.  Many of the survivors ended up living in caves.  This is why the North Koreans armored up and accept a bizarre authoritarian regime.Jan 31 17:26
MinceRah, that justifies everythingJan 31 17:26
MinceRpeople died, time to oppress everybodyJan 31 17:26
MinceRand then kill everybodyJan 31 17:26
MinceRgood job, human speciesJan 31 17:26
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Thecristisrizenoldrussiancivilwarposter.jpgJan 31 17:26
XRevan86Text below: Christ has risenJan 31 17:28
XRevan86on the shield: God is with us, Russia will riseJan 31 17:28
XRevan86(Съ нами Богъ, да воскреснетъ Россiя; христосъ воскресе!..)Jan 31 17:30
msb_People are designed to live in a warm, kind, mutually helpful environment, like bonobos have.  When they are subjected to horrible violence, torture and death, they get post-traumatic stress disorder -- PTSD.  That's the way we're built.  It has nothing to do with justifying anything.Jan 31 17:30
MinceRpeople are not "designed"Jan 31 17:30
XRevan86wired :)Jan 31 17:30
msb_evolvedJan 31 17:30
MinceRand people have never lived in a "warm, kind, mutually helpful environment"Jan 31 17:30
MinceRpeople live in the hell that is their own makingJan 31 17:31
XRevan86MinceR: People surely want it, but humans are dumb.Jan 31 17:31
MinceRthey're surely dumb but i'm not sure what they wantJan 31 17:31
MinceRif they were as smart as they gave credit for, they should realize they're destroying themselvesJan 31 17:32
msb_MinceR: You have an emotional illness that makes you think that.  Some people are born, grow up, and live in a congenial environment.Jan 31 17:32
MinceRthey keep making _obviously_ self-destructive choicesJan 31 17:32
MinceRlike voting for orban and putinJan 31 17:32
MinceRthough the latter might be ascribed to election fraudJan 31 17:32
MinceR146% and all thatJan 31 17:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/693848235476127746Jan 31 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz also 2 other OIN talks.Jan 31 17:32
schestowitzI want to embed or upload all, plus comments on them...Jan 31 17:33
MinceRmsb_: where is this "congenial environment"? in the holy russian empire?Jan 31 17:33
MinceRmsb_: or perhaps in Jesusland?Jan 31 17:34
XRevan86Additionally about Civil War: A lot of Russians believed that Soviets are enemies of Russia itself as they are enemies of Emperor's regime, because they thought Russia == Emperor.Jan 31 17:35
msb_MinceR: I don't know.  But we were developing it in the 1960s in the US -- the Woodstock Nation -- especially with the help of the widespread use of cannabis.Jan 31 17:36
MinceRso it was a dream that could not last?Jan 31 17:37
XRevan86(a lot but not as much as reformists apparently, because "whites" lost)Jan 31 17:37
MinceR(because humans being what they are)Jan 31 17:37
msb_It was destroyed from the outside by corporatist/govt attacks.Jan 31 17:37
msb_Jean Liedloff wrote a book called The Continuum Concept, about a society she found in Venezuela in which parents treat their children very gently.Jan 31 17:44
msb_They grow up to be very kind and cooperative.Jan 31 17:45
msb_She realized that our idea of human nature -- like MinceR's but not as severe -- was all wrong.Jan 31 17:46
cubexyzwell sure, I bet if you looked at murderers and violent criminals you would probably find a bad pastJan 31 17:47
cubexyzgood mentoring is very importantJan 31 17:47
msb_Nobody is born bad or antisocial, but unkind upbringing, from infancy makes them that way.  It's PTSD.Jan 31 17:47
msb_https://vimeo.com/46465730Jan 31 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vimeo.com | Jean Leidloff - The Continuum Concept on VimeoJan 31 17:50
MinceRwell yeah, if humanity stopped systematically abusing their children, that would probably help a lotJan 31 17:52
MinceRbut it's not like they'll do thatJan 31 17:52
msb_Download it with videodownloadhelper and watch it.  It can change your life!Jan 31 17:53
MinceRthere are some human instincts that are pretty destructive thoughJan 31 17:55
MinceRit needs training and/or willpower to overcomeJan 31 17:55
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MinceRand some of that is not really solved yet, afaikJan 31 18:01
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msb_MinceR: Humans have an instinct for psychopathy -- control or kill everyone else and then I will be safe -- but it does not get activated unless the person is severely stressed in childhood.Jan 31 18:02
MinceRthat's far from the only oneJan 31 18:03
MinceRfor example babies instinctually respond worse to people with different skin color, iircJan 31 18:03
MinceRthen there's the issue of being incapable of treating more than ~100 people as 'being in the same tribe' -- that is, as alliesJan 31 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD and Intel Graphics https://t.co/7ae6b3YNViJan 31 18:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/693851882608005122Jan 31 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz the cirkel seems to be closed again. So lets fork the @linuxfoundation? #Patrick_in_wonderland :)Jan 31 18:14
schestowitzBetter just support FSF for now, today's the last day to help support them!Jan 31 18:14
msb_MinceR: There are more than 100 people in the tribe Liedloff found.  And they didn't have any problem with her pink skin color.Jan 31 18:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/693860698024189952Jan 31 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz @linuxfoundation I've been doing so for years. We'll see what follows now.Jan 31 18:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/693861559039348737Jan 31 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz write a letter to FOSDEM organizers, I will second it. MP4 is full of patents.Jan 31 18:26
schestowitzAnd FOSS-hostile for many reasons. What's the F in FOSDEM? F* this s*.Jan 31 18:26
MinceRmsb_: with reason, humans can overcome many (if not all) instincts. but most people aren't willing to use reasonJan 31 18:33
msb_If kids are raised right, the psychopath instinct never gets activated.Jan 31 18:35
msb_MinceR: Anyhow, if you watch this video, and read the chalice and the blade, and read that RET booklet that I found for you, and make an effort, you should be able to overcome your paranoia and depression.  I hope you do, because you are really smart, and I like you, and you could contribute a lot.Jan 31 18:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6999985Jan 31 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 40% for #PirateParty in #iceland http://www.electograph.com/2016/01/iceland-january-2016-frettablaisto-2.html?m=1 @Falkvinge did succeed in at least one countryJan 31 19:31
schestowitz"Jan 31 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.electograph.com | ICELAND, January 2016. Fréttablaðið/Stöð 2 poll ~ electograph [ http://ur1.ca/ogshn ]Jan 31 19:31
schestowitzThis is just the beginning. Europe is becoming more polarized politically and I see the pirate party as a manifestation of that.Jan 31 19:31
schestowitzIceland is about to become the “#1 threat to US security” as was Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, and other “rouge” states.Jan 31 19:31
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schestowitz"NetworkManager is too slow… prefer systemd-networkd."Jan 31 19:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6999457Jan 31 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mark #zuckerberg said he'd "fuck" #facebook users "in the ear". Bill Gates said: "“that's the dumbest fucking idea I've heard" (sociopaths)Jan 31 19:34
schestowitz"Ah, is that why he overcompensates?"Jan 31 19:34
MinceRnetworkmanager and systemd are both poetteringwareJan 31 20:07
DaemonFChttp://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-update-versus-ubuntu-update/Jan 31 20:16
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DaemonFCWell, Ed Bott's article is now irrelevant.Jan 31 20:16
DaemonFCWindows 10 ham fists everything in as a mandatory update which is immediately installed whether you want it or not.Jan 31 20:17
DaemonFCEven if the update is a video driver that was known to be broken before Microsoft pushed it out.Jan 31 20:17
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cubexyzand BIOS source doesn't hurt eitherJan 31 20:22
cubexyzbasically the users have no control with windows 10Jan 31 20:24
cubexyznot that they ever had much control on previous versions of windows, but now it's just ridiculousJan 31 20:29
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693925355837587456Jan 31 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I deleted my Dropbox a very long time ago. I'm ashamed of my colleague :))Jan 31 22:36
schestowitzhe also did skype promotion today, it harvests address books for unaware victims (who install this malware)Jan 31 22:36
MinceRmsb_: do you have an epub of The Continuum Concept?Jan 31 22:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693926069792018432Jan 31 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz yeah, sadly, I saw that...Jan 31 22:50
schestowitzNext up: Mono ;-)Jan 31 22:50
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schestowitzDays ago he backtracked, withdrew, and expressed support for Sanders. Not sure if you saw that...Jan 31 22:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693929871207186434Jan 31 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Ha ha :D I need to have a chat with him for some real #Linux software reviews for February... ;)Jan 31 22:54
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msb_Those SBCs are amazing!  The Orange Pi Plus has 4 cores and 1GB of RAM, $39 and all necessary cables and accessories are available.  I think the postage is $1/item, but I'm not sure.  Of course it runs Linux.Jan 31 23:31
msb_http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1553371Jan 31 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aliexpress.com | Shenzhen Xunlong Software CO.,Limited - Small Orders Online Store, Hot Selling adapter 24v,adapter australia,adaptive toys and more on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba GroupJan 31 23:31
MinceRi hope they take support as seriously as the raspberry pi guysJan 31 23:32
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msb_I'm having trouble contacting their website.  I got it previously.  http://www.orangepi.org/orangepipc/Jan 31 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.orangepi.org | orange pi pc - OrangepiJan 31 23:37
msb_came in this time, and the bot got itJan 31 23:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/z31r4m/status/693941526074773505Jan 31 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@z31r4m: @schestowitz “Washington Compost” but I get where you’re going with that. @EnVogueRogueJan 31 23:40
msb_orange  pi plus 2 has 2GB of RAM, $53 shippedJan 31 23:41
MinceR:)Jan 31 23:42
msb_There are 9 people in #orangepiJan 31 23:42
msb_If you have a tv you can hook it to, and buy a cheap keyboard, mouse and disk, you can probably get the whole thing for $150Jan 31 23:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating System Running on...'Jan 31 23:45
msb_Imagine being a kid today and getting that!Jan 31 23:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First PointJan 31 23:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 Fixes | Tux MachinesJan 31 23:46
msb_I was very happy with an IBM-PC with 640KB of RAM and a much less powerful processor.Jan 31 23:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating SystemJan 31 23:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Running on NanoPi 2 SBC https://t.co/6buBPtKsc7Jan 31 23:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: Ubuntu MATE Linux Operating System Running on NanoPi 2 SBC | Tux MachinesJan 31 23:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases!Jan 31 23:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases! | Tux MachinesJan 31 23:47
msb_And I was 40 at the time.Jan 31 23:47
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schestowitzhttp://www8.hp.com/us/en/cloud/helion-eucalyptus-overview.htmlJan 31 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www8.hp.com | HPE Helion Eucalyptus | Hewlett Packard Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/ogth9 ]Jan 31 23:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/martenmickos/status/693942946761039874Jan 31 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@martenmickos: @schestowitz here: https://t.co/qxGC3IwZZS and thanks @Metztli_ITJan 31 23:55
schestowitz Good. Is it still as FOSS as before?Feb 01 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Parkitect, the theme park building sim isFeb 01 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 currently broken on LinuxFeb 01 00:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Parkitect, the theme park building sim is currently broken on Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases!Feb 01 00:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-milianw.de | KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 and 4.7.3 Releases! | Milian WolffFeb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.4.1 https://t.co/SqUNVIPmti (lwn.net)Feb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.3.5 https://t.co/8nojYjDZnX (lwn.net)Feb 01 00:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.1.17 https://t.co/Psmvi5nU3I (lwn.net)Feb 01 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Linux 4.4.1 [LWN.net]Feb 01 00:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What’s going on with GNOME To DoFeb 01 00:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | What’s going on with GNOME To Do | Georges StavracasFeb 01 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a NewFeb 01 00:40
TweetTuxMachines                 MythTV Theme for the OS https://t.co/VccPCFcLA4Feb 01 00:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a New MythTV Theme for the OSFeb 01 00:40
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a...'Feb 01 00:43
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TweetTuxMachines                 Release, Adds... https://t.co/gEtugZnO9zFeb 01 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachinesFeb 01 00:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 FixesFeb 01 00:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenGL 4.4's Query Buffer Object SupportFeb 01 00:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Appears Nearly Ready For NouveauFeb 01 00:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/scv39EUUax (www.phoronix.com)Feb 01 00:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | OpenGL 4.4's Query Buffer Object Support Appears Nearly Ready For Nouveau - PhoronixFeb 01 00:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/693961557206761473Feb 01 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I think you'll love this ;)Feb 01 01:02
schestowitzWe shall see. If it's production-ready.Feb 01 01:02
schestowitzThe latest kde build, compiled for 15.10, did fix some severe bugs (trying it for 2 days now)Feb 01 01:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet KDE Neon, Everything You Love About KDE onFeb 01 01:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Top of Ubuntu Linux https://t.co/pwD2KKQwewFeb 01 01:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meet KDE Neon, Everything You Love About KDE on Top of Ubuntu LinuxFeb 01 01:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meet KDE Neon, Everything You Love About KDE...'Feb 01 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Plasma Mobile on Wayland Full Review -Feb 01 01:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Welcome To The KDE Prototype For Mobile DevicesFeb 01 01:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | KDE Plasma Mobile on Wayland Full Review - Welcome To The KDE Prototype For Mobile Devices - YouTubeFeb 01 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Experiences with deepin 15Feb 01 01:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Feb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "They want us to think it's impossible toFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines                 communicate...private... to believe it's nearFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines                 impossible to use Linux."Feb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XYq0AO7IXr (formerim.com)Feb 01 01:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-formerim.com | Have Tech Giants Brainwashed Us Blind?Feb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.4.1 https://t.co/DxgsD0EISNFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 01 01:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.4.1 | Tux MachinesFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What’s going on with GNOME To DoFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4m1sHSyarX (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 01 01:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s going on with GNOME To Do | Tux MachinesFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a NewFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines                 MythTV Theme for the OS https://t.co/WTtfoRiKwwFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 01 01:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mythbuntu Devs Need Your Help to Find a New MythTV Theme for the OS | Tux MachinesFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/IC3fwWfZyUFeb 01 01:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux MachinesFeb 01 01:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Experiences with deepin 15Feb 01 01:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Experiences with deepin 15 | Tux MachinesFeb 01 01:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Simplicity Linux 16.01 is now available forFeb 01 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 download  https://t.co/S4jWAKNhzxFeb 01 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (simplicitylinux.org)Feb 01 01:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-simplicitylinux.org | Simplicity Linux 16.01 is now available for download - Simplicity LinuxFeb 01 01:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Make Your Own TOR Proxy Router With AFeb 01 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi https://t.co/SwAJ8fxyr4Feb 01 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (fossbytes.com)Feb 01 01:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | How To Make Your Own TOR Proxy Router With A Raspberry PiFeb 01 01:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Programmer Makes Self-driving Toy Car PoweredFeb 01 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 By Raspberry Pi, Arduino, PythonFeb 01 01:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cCB3gW44Du (fossbytes.com)Feb 01 01:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Programmer Makes Self-driving Toy Car Powered By Raspberry Pi, Arduino, PythonFeb 01 01:23
*TweetTuxMachines @arduinoNewsBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Programmer Makes Self-driving Toy Car Powered By Raspberry...'Feb 01 01:25
*TweetTuxMachines @feliperdonatti retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Programmer Makes Self-driving Toy Car Powered By Raspberry...'Feb 01 01:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing forFeb 01 01:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Audio Production, Coming SoonFeb 01 01:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing for Audio Production, Coming SoonFeb 01 01:28
TweetTuxMachines@LinuxTopNews    Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First PointFeb 01 01:30
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Release, Adds... https://t.co/gEtugZnO9zFeb 01 01:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Gets Its First Point Release, Adds PPC, x86 and ARM64 FixesFeb 01 01:30
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing for Audio...'Feb 01 01:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.10.96 LTS Has Networking andFeb 01 01:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Sound Enhancements, Updated DriversFeb 01 01:30
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schestowitzhttp://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/amazon-becoming-just-another-mortal-companyFeb 01 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com | Amazon Is Becoming Just Another Mortal Company | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/ogtvs ]Feb 01 01:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Simplicity Linux 16.01 is now available for download | Tux MachinesFeb 01 02:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AV Linux 2016 Optimizes Debian Testing forFeb 01 02:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Audio Production, Coming SoonFeb 01 02:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.10.96 LTS Has Networking andFeb 01 02:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Sound Enhancements, Updated DriversFeb 01 02:41
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cubexyzhow is Iceland a 'threat'?Feb 01 02:43
*cubexyz just doesn't understand the worldFeb 01 02:44
oiaohmcubexyz: http://www.livescience.com/50004-iceland-eruption-ends-bardarbunga.htmlFeb 01 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.livescience.com | Iceland's Largest Eruption Ends…Maybe [ http://ur1.ca/ogu3z ]Feb 01 02:58
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oiaohmcubexyz: if they are talking about the volcano problem in lcelenad I can understand the threat problem.Feb 01 02:58
msb_cubexyz: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iceland-has-jailed-26-bankers-why-wont-we-a6735411.htmlFeb 01 03:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Iceland has jailed 26 bankers, why won't we? | Voices | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/ogu5g ]Feb 01 03:12
msb_http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/10/23/3715775/iceland-jails-bankers-and-survives/Feb 01 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Iceland, Where Bankers Actually Go To Jail For Committing White-Collar Crimes | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/ogu5k ]Feb 01 03:13
msb_Iceland is a threat  to some of the most powerful thieving psychopaths that control the world.Feb 01 03:14
msb_cubexyz: The banksters crashed the world economy in 2008 by gathering together mortgages that couldn't be paid and falsely rating the grouped mortgages as good investments, sold them to various governments, retirement funds, etc, which then lost huge amounts of money to the banksters.Feb 01 03:18
msb_Obomber brought some of the biggest banking criminals into the US govt and put them in control of financial matters as high officials.Feb 01 03:19
msb_Obomber decreed that the banks were "too big to be allowed to fail" and gave them TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS of money from US taxpayers.Feb 01 03:21
msb_!google iceland bankersFeb 01 03:28
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Iceland has jailed 26 bankers, why won't we? | Voices | The ... | http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iceland-has-jailed-26-bankers-why-wont-we-a6735411.htmlFeb 01 03:28
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Iceland, Where Bankers Actually Go To Jail For Committing White ... | http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/10/23/3715775/iceland-jails-bankers-and-survives/Feb 01 03:28
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - If Iceland Can Jail Bankers For The Crash Then Why Can't America ... | http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/10/24/if-iceland-can-jail-bankers-for-the-crash-then-why-cant-america/Feb 01 03:28
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Iceland: Where Bankers Go to Jail for 74 Years - The Daily Beast | http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/23/iceland-where-bankers-go-to-jail-for-74-years.htmlFeb 01 03:28
msb_I didn't know mere mortals can do that, but it works!Feb 01 03:28
oiaohmmsb_: http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/07/31/china-sentences-6-bankers-to-death-for-looting/  nothing is quite as scary as china for bankers.Feb 01 03:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalvelcraft.org | China Sentences 6 Bankers To Death For Looting. | Political Vel Craft [ http://ur1.ca/ogu72 ]Feb 01 03:30
msb_Interesting website:  it links to one of the same  9/11 research  videos that I do  --  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98&feature=youtu.beFeb 01 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ogu83 ]Feb 01 03:38
msb_and much more, all here:   http://politicalvelcraft.org/false-flags/Feb 01 03:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalvelcraft.org | False Flags | Political Vel Craft [ http://ur1.ca/ogu8b ]Feb 01 03:40
msb_“Al-Qaida,(sic) literally ‘the database,’ was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians,” admits former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook, whose Foreign Office portfolio included control of British Intelligence Agency MI-6 and the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), in a column published by the UK Guardian newspaper.Feb 01 03:47
msb_The mujahideen were a bunch of Islamic crazy killers who were armed by the US to attack the secular, Russia-allied government of Afghanistan in the 1980s.Feb 01 03:57
msb_The US gave them surface-to-air missiles to shoot down aircraft.Feb 01 03:58
msb_To summarize: the US created large-scale Islamic terrorism in the 1980s to harass Russia, because socialism -- even the crappy USSR kind -- threatened the profits of the ultra-wealthy.Feb 01 04:12
MinceRi wonder how the USSR kind of "socialism" threatened the profits of the most powerful "socialist" party membersFeb 01 04:13
MinceRi guess it did so by rendering their economy unworkableFeb 01 04:13
msb_The mujahideen eventually succeeded, replacing the secular Afghan  govt with the head-chopper clit-cutter Taliban.  During the 1990s US agent Boris Yeltsin dissolved the USSR and wrecked the Russian economy.  Feb 01 04:14
MinceRyes, Yeltsin travelled back to before his birth and established the "socialist" economy that ruined russiaFeb 01 04:15
msb_This left the US weapons industry with nothing to do for a profit, so "a new Pearl Harbor" was required.  That was 9-11, proved to be a  US false-flag terror operation by simple physical analysis of the collapse videos of WTC1 and WTC7 proving that they were demolished with explosives.Feb 01 04:16
MinceRrejoice, for the russian empire is backFeb 01 04:18
MinceRand they're more than willing to fire off all the nukes left over from the ussr for a bit of attentionFeb 01 04:18
msb_The Russian economy had been working, if poorly, under the USSR's authoritarian state socialism, but Yeltsin sold off the state assets at 10% of their value to wealthy capitalists, plunging the economy into ruin.Feb 01 04:19
msb_Using its false-flag 9/11 attack as pretext, the US attacked Afghanistan, murdering 1,000,000 people, to get rid of the Taliban that the US had purposely installed 20  years before.Feb 01 04:22
msb_The US attacked Iraq to get rid of the evil Sadaam Hussein, whom it had installed to replace a beneficial socialist many decades before.Feb 01 04:23
MinceRthere's no such thing as a "beneficial socialist"Feb 01 04:24
msb_This attack murdered another 1,000,000 Iraquis, added to the previous million murdered by the Bush and Clinton regimes in the 1990s.Feb 01 04:24
msb_In 2011, Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, and Obama, attacked Libya, murdering its president Gadaffi and hundreds of thousands of its people.  Gadaffi was a socialist who gave the nation's oil profits to the people, giving them free housing and education to the university level, and terrifying the 1% capitalists who owned 99% of the wealth and control the US govt.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek Feb 01 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Libya Truth (DnB Soundtrack) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jld5s ]Feb 01 04:28
MinceRoh, they murdered a poor defenseless dictatorFeb 01 04:29
MinceRthe bastards.Feb 01 04:29
msb_Libya had had the highest standard of living of any African nation.  Now its people are starving, and Libya and Iraq have been partly taken over by ISIL -- total murdering psychopath robots -- which are what the US armed and financed mujahideen/Al-Qaeda have morphed into.Feb 01 04:32
MinceRi'd ask the south africans about thatFeb 01 04:32
MinceRalso, the people of seychellesFeb 01 04:33
MinceRand equatorial guineaFeb 01 04:33
msb_The US then attacked Syria by arming Islamic opposition fighters against the Assad government, which opposed the petroDOLLAR system and opposed Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.  Feb 01 04:34
msb_The Islamics armed by the US then either dropped their weapons for ISIL to pick up, or actually joined ISIL.  Until the Russians, with Assad's approval, starting bombing ISIL in Syria, it looked like ISIL was going to take over the entire Middle East.  This suited the US ally Israel, which decades before had declared that half of the ME should eventually comprise "Greater Israel".Feb 01 04:37
msb_Contrary to what the deluded and obsessed MinceR says, Gaddafi in Libya, Daniel Ortega (elected) in Nicaragua, and Fidel Castro in Cuba were all beneficial socialists, who enabled good economies for their nations, despite all being attacked militarily by the US.Feb 01 04:43
MinceRand those economies were so "good" that msb_ doesn't want to live in any of themFeb 01 04:45
msb_As I've said, I'm 70 years old and have medical problems.  I'm on social security, which I paid for during my working  years.  The US govt has not threatened me, so I have no reason to move.Feb 01 04:47
msb_As to dictators and democracy, if Gaddafi wasn't elected by US election standards, but enabled very good lives for the people of Libya, then the US calls him an "evil dictator", worthy of being murdered.Feb 01 04:50
msb_Whereas if a ruler is elected by a totally corrupt system, like we have in the US, in which both parties are completely controlled by the ultra-wealthy, and that ruler murders millions of people for the benefit of the ultra-wealthy, like GHW Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama have done, that's perfectly fine, because they were "elected" by (totally fake) "democracy".Feb 01 04:54
msb_Stalinist authoritarian state socialism treated Hungary, where MinceR lives, very badly 60 years ago, and he has become traumatized and deluded  by this, and projects the evil of that particularly bad variety of socialism onto all varieties of socialism.Feb 01 05:05
msb_Hungary is still experiencing the PTSD from that, after two generations, and is still a mess, similar to North Korea after having 1/3 of its population murdered by the US, but Hungary is not as badly messed up as NK.Feb 01 05:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/martenmickos/status/693990281213923328Feb 01 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@martenmickos: @schestowitz afaikFeb 01 08:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/694022073673453569Feb 01 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I actually agree with the Bern to some extent re. Wall Street, a context in which other Democrats are venal hypocrites.Feb 01 08:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/694071402064908288Feb 01 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz https://t.co/EMwC5tJ09yFeb 01 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UKParliament: Cost of Investigatory Powers Bill could undermine UK Tech sector says report published by @CommonsSTC https://t.co/DKhELg6NjAFeb 01 08:52
schestowitz> http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-10/Feb 01 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wmpoweruser.com | Windows 10 Build 14251 may have a mysterious Linux sub-system - WMPoweruserFeb 01 09:13
schestowitz> Feb 01 09:13
schestowitz> license violation?Feb 01 09:13
schestowitzI saw that last night, but not in other sources...Feb 01 09:13
oiaohmschestowitz: not sure but it would 100 percent worth someone having a serous look.Feb 01 09:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694089719123202048Feb 01 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz this should be interesting....Feb 01 09:50
schestowitzI will write an article about it laterFeb 01 09:50
schestowitzhttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/01/31/statement-from-the-robert-lavoy-finicum-family/Feb 01 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.paulcraigroberts.org | Statement From The Robert “LaVoy” Finicum Family - PaulCraigRoberts.org [ http://ur1.ca/ogv6y ]Feb 01 10:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/694097616284598276\Feb 01 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz they were more busy watching the output of the keyloggers :-)Feb 01 10:00
schestowitzSo @jonobacon is using a Mac now http://www.jonobacon.org/2016/02/01/the-hybrid-desktop/ so much for software freedom…Feb 01 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jonobacon.org | The Hybrid Desktop | jonobacon@home [ http://ur1.ca/ogv7s ]Feb 01 10:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/694100769063043072Feb 01 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jonobacon: @schestowitz I have never been 100% Free Software. I primarily use open source and also some non-free apps where needed.Feb 01 10:13
schestowitzthanks for clarifyingFeb 01 10:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 01 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.5-rc2 Brings A Surprising Amount OfFeb 01 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Changes https://t.co/xGTf1msOz0Feb 01 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/lOhlEDKWkTFeb 01 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.5-rc2 Brings A Surprising Amount Of Changes - PhoronixFeb 01 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces the Second Linux Kernel 4.5 Release Candidate BuildFeb 01 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Story-driven RTS Battle of Empires 1914-1918Feb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 looks like it's coming to Linux & SteamOSFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hQ2PHG5jeN (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 01 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Story-driven RTS Battle of Empires 1914-1918 looks like it's coming to Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung's Android browser gets ad blockingFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 capabilities  https://t.co/hVQObbXMB3Feb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theverge.com)Feb 01 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Samsung's Android browser gets ad blocking capabilities | The VergeFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nine tips to use your Android phone moreFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 efficiently https://t.co/86YT7xnEPsFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.smh.com.au) #android #linuxFeb 01 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smh.com.au | Nine tips to use your Android phone more efficientlyFeb 01 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It Looks Like Google Has Finally Caught On ToFeb 01 10:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemless Root - #AndroidPay No LongerFeb 01 10:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Compatible https://t.co/1qgPaFW1UfFeb 01 10:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com) #android #linuxFeb 01 10:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | It Looks Like Google Has Finally Caught On To Systemless Root - Android Pay No Longer CompatibleFeb 01 10:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sabayon Linux 16.02 Brings Gentoo's LatestFeb 01 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Updates and Patches for February 2016Feb 01 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/uUb01jsrxV (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 01 11:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Sabayon Linux 16.02 Brings Gentoo's Latest Updates and Patches for February 2016Feb 01 11:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Getting Closer to the Rolling ReleaseFeb 01 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Model https://t.co/MRlxyxeoNuFeb 01 11:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Getting Closer to the Rolling Release ModelFeb 01 11:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Elementary OS Theme Replicates the OldFeb 01 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 8.04 Look and FeelFeb 01 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IHeGW7Aghh (news.softpedia.com)Feb 01 11:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Elementary OS Theme Replicates the Old Ubuntu 8.04 Look and FeelFeb 01 11:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu PRO 5 Running Ubuntu Leaks, Launching AtFeb 01 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 MWC? https://t.co/E4Jzb2Y1QLFeb 01 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidheadlines.com)Feb 01 11:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Meizu PRO 5 Running Ubuntu Leaks, Launching At MWC? | Androidheadlines.comFeb 01 11:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Panmorphia transformed for PC, Mac, and LinuxFeb 01 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vPPJyLCYK9Feb 01 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.adventuregamers.com)Feb 01 11:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adventuregamers.com | Panmorphia transformed for PC, Mac, and Linux - AdventureGamers.comFeb 01 11:14
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Sabayon Linux 16.02 Brings Gentoo's Latest Updates and...'Feb 01 11:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GPIO Zero and Raspberry Pi programming starterFeb 01 11:34
TweetTuxMachines                 projectsFeb 01 11:34
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/EC6bl1pD5p (opensource.com)Feb 01 11:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Programming in the real world with GPIO Zero and Raspberry Pi | Opensource.comFeb 01 11:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on with Debian GNU/Linux 8.3Feb 01 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5ePP2lFgHW (www.zdnet.com)Feb 01 12:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands on with Debian GNU/Linux 8.3 | ZDNetFeb 01 12:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Debian (FOSDEM,  Debian Activities,Feb 01 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Dedication to  Ian Murdock)Feb 01 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RZjH15CEF3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 01 12:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian (FOSDEM, Debian Activities, Dedication to Ian Murdock) | Tux MachinesFeb 01 12:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Brave the new champion the open web needs?Feb 01 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/O8CwF7ubOr (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 01 12:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Brave the new champion the open web needs? | Tux MachinesFeb 01 12:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on with Debian GNU/Linux 8.3Feb 01 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bi0OrN4Qsx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 01 12:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands on with Debian GNU/Linux 8.3 | Tux MachinesFeb 01 12:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/sFR6ZjCKEtFeb 01 12:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesFeb 01 12:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/694128483824472064Feb 01 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: My first Linux distro. https://t.co/1B1fgVfKvxFeb 01 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New #ElementaryOS Theme Replicates the Old Ubuntu 8.04 Look and Feel https://t.co/ENoFhgtfaA #gnu #linuxFeb 01 12:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/694128551029657602Feb 01 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz All you need to know about Microsoft Privacy is These Hidden Windows 10 App Permissions= 0 Privacy https://t.co/OZQSv3EsNjFeb 01 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz All you need to know about Microsoft Privacy is These Hidden Windows 10 App Permissions= 0 Privacy https://t.co/OZQSv3EsNjFeb 01 12:14
schestowitzbetter yet, dump WindowsFeb 01 12:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/694129029981552641Feb 01 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: The real reason Eich was fired is his anti-DRM views. SJWs were chums and stooges for corporate interests. https://t.co/cAdmpa3lXYFeb 01 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Brave the new champion the open web needs? https://t.co/WkSpo1sUHz it's truly #freesw and hopefully never #drm unlike #mozillaFeb 01 12:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/694129373276966912Feb 01 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Nor Obama until 2012. https://t.co/5UJiO2SWDwFeb 01 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #mozilla CEO lost his job because of SJWs who are selectively witch-hunting. #clinton didn't support same-sex marriage until 2010.Feb 01 12:15
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oiaohmhttp://betanews.com/2016/01/30/stop-using-microsoft-edges-inprivate-mode-if-you-value-your-privacy/  Nice false feature.Feb 01 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Stop using Microsoft Edge's InPrivate mode if you value your privacy [ http://ur1.ca/ogvx1 ]Feb 01 12:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/694134283108155392Feb 01 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz At this rate Data Security Will Look Like this in the Year 2016: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/Vo5uEMcOydFeb 01 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.termsmayapply.com | Smartphone Application Permissions - App PermissionsFeb 01 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz At this rate Data Security Will Look Like this in the Year 2016: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/Vo5uEMcOydFeb 01 13:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Mysmartprivacy/status/694135305494880256Feb 01 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz 4K TVs Watch You via Intrusive Apps & Hidden App Permissions: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/7vdQTOQBSeFeb 01 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mysmartprivacy: @schestowitz 4K TVs Watch You via Intrusive Apps & Hidden App Permissions: https://t.co/DjvOtIies8 https://t.co/7vdQTOQBSeFeb 01 13:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/N_is_Een/status/694151504966610946Feb 01 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@N_is_Een: De Zwitserse @piratenpartij is één van de drijvende krachten achter het komende referendum over #surveillance wet. https://t.co/FR0T5EgKMBFeb 01 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How a Small Company in #Switzerland Is Fighting a #Surveillance #Law — And Winning https://t.co/asYcIL5QuSFeb 01 13:39
msb_schestowitz: WhatFeb 01 13:41
msb_schestowitz: What's the (alleged?)   story about Brendan Eich and SJWs?  Is there a writeup on that?Feb 01 13:42
schestowitzzoobab: waiting for fosdem video about upc before publishing along with slidesFeb 01 13:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/jYk7h7zN1YFeb 01 13:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 01 13:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Development News https://t.co/kUdyudiVvlFeb 01 13:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News | Tux MachinesFeb 01 13:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/mQsOXamxQlFeb 01 13:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 01 13:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/KtNLCr72D2Feb 01 13:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 01 13:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It's Official: By Means of Entryism, MicrosoftFeb 01 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Has Turned a Pro-Linux Nokia Into an Anti-LinuxFeb 01 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Patent Parasite https://t.co/zDqJlo30FFFeb 01 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 01 13:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 1/2/2016: Linux 4.5 RC2, KDevelop 5.0Feb 01 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Beta 2 https://t.co/BHg9EBGDqx (techrights.org)Feb 01 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It’s Official: By Means of Entryism, Microsoft Has Turned a Pro-Linux Nokia Into an Anti-Linux Patent Parasite | TechrightsFeb 01 13:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/2/2016: Linux 4.5 RC2, KDevelop 5.0 Beta 2 | TechrightsFeb 01 13:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/694154135449526272Feb 01 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: Yes https://t.co/n364fHXuNuFeb 01 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: the alternative to #google for search is NOT #DuckDuckGo (spying and false marketing), use #startpage and/or #ixquickFeb 01 14:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/yLVY2laxPTFeb 01 14:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 01 14:10
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 1/2/2016: Linux 4.5 RC2, KDevelop 5.0 Beta...'Feb 01 14:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung introduces adblocking to its AndroidFeb 01 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 devices  https://t.co/GCsfia0WxsFeb 01 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theguardian.com) good.Feb 01 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Samsung introduces adblocking to its Android devices | Media | The GuardianFeb 01 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Picklor: Identify colors using your AndroidFeb 01 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                 cameraFeb 01 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/PrAVSBpqAr (www.ghacks.net)Feb 01 14:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Picklor: Identify colors using your Android camera - gHacks Tech NewsFeb 01 14:32
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MinceR060511 < msb_> Stalinist authoritarian state socialism treated Hungary, where MinceR lives, very badly 60 years ago, and he has become traumatized and deluded  by Feb 01 15:11
MinceR               this, and projects the evil of that particularly bad variety of socialism onto all varieties of socialism.Feb 01 15:11
MinceRwrong.Feb 01 15:11
MinceRstalinism fucked up hungary for its entire duration.Feb 01 15:11
MinceRand msb_ equated that system to the utopia he also calls "socialism"Feb 01 15:11
MinceRmaking it seem as if life under one of the most brutally oppressive totalitarian dictatorships was a utopiaFeb 01 15:12
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XRevan86this againFeb 01 15:12
MinceRalso, hungarians are still addled by what stalinism taught them, they're still unwilling to think for themselves or to take on any responsibilityFeb 01 15:13
MinceRand they still expect the state to think and live in their steadFeb 01 15:13
msb_MinceR: Stop lying about me!  I _never_ said that stalinism was utopian.  Also, I have said that there are good and bad types of socialism, and that stalinism was a bad type.Feb 01 15:13
MinceRthat's how we ended up under dictatorship again since 2010.Feb 01 15:13
msb_MinceR: You are a smart person.  You have made very funny jokes.  Why is it that when you talk about me and socialism you keep lying and lying?Feb 01 15:15
MinceRmsb_: i'm not the one who tries to muddle the distinction between stalinism and anarcho-communism.Feb 01 15:16
msb_What is anarcho-communism?Feb 01 15:16
msb_I have never used that term?Feb 01 15:17
oiaohmmsb_: really if you have to ask that shows how little you know of the topic.Feb 01 15:17
oiaohmmsb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communismFeb 01 15:17
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oiaohmMinceR: personally I prefer Anarchist Communism to the term anarcho-communisim.   Since its more clean its Communism lacking key central management.Feb 01 15:22
MinceRicFeb 01 15:22
msb_MinceR: Quote me where I have tried to "muddle the distinction between stalinism and anarcho-communism".  Of course you won't be able to, because I never have.  You are lying about me again.Feb 01 15:23
MinceRmsb_: you keep calling stalinism "socialism" but you keep describing "socialism" with attributes people tend to apply to anarcho-communism and almost nobody is deluded enough to believe stalinism has those attributesFeb 01 15:25
MinceRlike the workers being in any sort of control whateverFeb 01 15:25
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism  anyone who knows there terms knows that stalinism is not socialism.Feb 01 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Stalinism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 01 15:26
msb_I have said that there are many different types of socialism.  Some of those types don't have workers in control of anything.Feb 01 15:26
oiaohmLOLOLL really.Feb 01 15:27
MinceRyou keep saying that in "socialism", workers decide what goes and that stalinism is "socialism" -- together these two statements are obviously false.Feb 01 15:27
MinceRmsb_: yet you say stalinism is great because it's "socialism"Feb 01 15:27
MinceRunder stalinism, workers are effectively slaves owned by the slaveFeb 01 15:28
MinceRunder stalinism, workers are effectively slaves owned by the stateFeb 01 15:28
MinceRthey don't even tend to be allowed to move freelyFeb 01 15:28
MinceR(see internal passports in russia, the iron curtain and the berlin wall)Feb 01 15:28
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SocialismFeb 01 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 01 15:29
oiaohmSocialism and Stalinsim are in fact incompatible.Feb 01 15:29
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msb_MinceR: You are lying again.  I have explicitly said that in good forms of socialism workers are in control.  I have never said that stalinism is great or has workers in control.Feb 01 15:30
oiaohmmsb_: Stalinist authoritarian state socialism treated Hungary  << That bit you said is wrong.Feb 01 15:31
MinceRyou also keep bringing up other stalinist dictatorships as exemplars to be emulated, only because they put "socialist" in the name of their stateFeb 01 15:31
oiaohmMinceR: point out to msb that he need to read what Stalinist is and socialism is because in fact Stalinist is not classed as socialism.Feb 01 15:32
MinceRoiaohm: i think he believes labels too muchFeb 01 15:32
oiaohmMinceR: Stalinist is creative dictatorship Feb 01 15:32
MinceRoiaohm: "this state calls itself 'socialist' and a 'people's democracy' so it must be great!"Feb 01 15:33
MinceRi don't see what's creative about itFeb 01 15:33
oiaohmMinceR: socialist is in fact not a type of government.Feb 01 15:34
msb_MinceR: What "stalinist dictatorships" are you claiming that I urge to emulate?Feb 01 15:34
oiaohmMinceR: socialist is a title giving to a poltical party that contains somewhere in it documents say that it going after socialism goals.Feb 01 15:35
MinceRmsb_: it changes as i look up your examples and point out that they're not nearly as great as you saidFeb 01 15:36
MinceRoiaohm: who enforces that, especially where that party is the state?Feb 01 15:36
msb_MinceR: Name them.Feb 01 15:37
MinceRoiaohm: i wouldn't go looking for rule of law in a dictatorshipFeb 01 15:37
MinceRmsb_: earlier you kept bringing up venezuela until i pointed out they have worse inequality than the usa. now you bring up nicaragua and cubaFeb 01 15:37
MinceReven though cuba being a dictatorship is pretty well knownFeb 01 15:37
MinceRoh, and libyaFeb 01 15:37
oiaohmMinceR: Socialist party in charge can equal dictatorship if they believe that it the way to get to socialism.  Why it important to split those words.Feb 01 15:37
MinceRwhich sucked so much the people revolted against the dictatorFeb 01 15:37
MinceR(not that they had any hope of putting in its place a system that's any better though)Feb 01 15:38
oiaohmMinceR: basically if a country is socialism or not you are basically ticking off check boxes.Feb 01 15:38
MinceRoiaohm: do you believe them if they say they oppress and exploit everyone because that's the way to "socialism"?Feb 01 15:38
msb_I think the people who revolted against Gaddafi were islamics instigated by the US.Feb 01 15:38
MinceRoiaohm: also, do you believe marx's fever dream that a dictatorship will one day just give up its power and hand it over to the people?Feb 01 15:39
MinceRi don't see how anyone believed that could ever workFeb 01 15:39
MinceRmsb_: you won't find much else in that region, i'm afraidFeb 01 15:39
MinceRmsb_: even some of the allegedly "socialist" leaders tend to be muslimFeb 01 15:39
MinceRlike the alawite assadsFeb 01 15:40
MinceRthat region would have to progress a lot (and avoid oblivion on the way) before it can have any hope of even a flawed democracyFeb 01 15:40
MinceRthe same is true of israelFeb 01 15:41
msb_I don't know if Gaddafi was islamic, but people were very happy with him:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6EkFeb 01 15:41
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MinceRmeanwhile religious fundamentalism is threatening to regress countries that are better off into that stateFeb 01 15:41
MinceRif not to wipe them out entirelyFeb 01 15:41
MinceRmsb_: every dictator has faithful believers/followersFeb 01 15:41
oiaohmMinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Politics  There are 8 official political structures socialism that a socialism based country has to choose 1.   None mandate oppression let alone exploiting everyone.Feb 01 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ogwhd ]Feb 01 15:42
MinceRmsb_: and even if they didn't, they have enough power to have such things producedFeb 01 15:42
MinceRoiaohm: again, who enforces that?Feb 01 15:42
msb_The socialist govt of Nicaragua is elected.Feb 01 15:43
oiaohmMinceR: in fact if you read the defines of the 8 types you will find major oppression is in fact rejected by all 8.Feb 01 15:43
MinceRmsb_: that by itself means nothingFeb 01 15:43
oiaohmMinceR: basically you don't find true Socialism with those issues.   Socialist governments and the like attempt to get to Socialism got stupid at times.Feb 01 15:44
MinceRmsb_: democracy has a lot more things to it than just "electing" a government. also, once a government is elected, they can terminate democracy if they have enough power.Feb 01 15:44
MinceRoiaohm: there may well never have been a state that had "true socialism" everFeb 01 15:44
oiaohmMinceR: there are a few that are Democratic socialism that work.Feb 01 15:45
oiaohmMinceR: but they are extreme minority,Feb 01 15:45
oiaohmDemocratic Socialism is interesting one because you have democracy with state run and provided services.Feb 01 15:46
msb_MinceR: it's pointless discussing this with you, because you keep confusing edge cases with mainstream cases.  And since you seem to have oiaohm helping you, and he is insane, I'm not going to participate anymore.Feb 01 15:47
MinceRoiaohm: well, some democratic republics with a market economy were called "democratic socialism" or "social democracy"Feb 01 15:47
MinceRwhich is then used in an attempt to legitimize stalinist dictatorshipsFeb 01 15:47
MinceRmsb_: again, you are the one trying to confuse very different systems with each other, not anyone else.Feb 01 15:48
oiaohmMinceR: key point Democratic socialism the fakes did not have the required free and fair elections.     Democratic socialism is in fact a very old thing.   Goes back to how the Athens parliament run things.  Long before stalinist ideas.Feb 01 15:53
oiaohmMinceR: yes you are right when something is called some political system you do have to go and check off the required features making sure they are present.   There is a lot of claiming to be X system when they are not.Feb 01 15:55
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cubexyzok, just an old hexedit I wrote for Xenix or sysv, it works on Linux but not BSD:Feb 01 16:49
cubexyzhttp://cubeman.org/prog_files/hexedit-1.0.tar.gzFeb 01 16:50
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cubexyzI see a lot of posts about "I want a non-UEFI motherboard" but few answersFeb 01 17:03
cubexyzI mean really... just booting Linux via UEFI bricks some samsung laptopsFeb 01 17:04
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cubexyzand about LCD monitor longevity, I have a 15 year old thinkpad r30 and the LCD is starting to goFeb 01 17:09
cubexyzI suppose I'll have to replace it some dayFeb 01 17:09
cubexyzthe zaurus has a small colour LCD which works fineFeb 01 17:10
abeNd-orggoodness I havent heard zaurus in agesFeb 01 17:12
abeNd-orgthat was a neat pda back in the day, i wanted one, never managed to come up with the cash thoughFeb 01 17:13
cubexyzit's still neat :)Feb 01 17:13
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abeNd-orgI would think a repurposed old 2gb ram netbook would have more power these days though, & probably next to $0 to purchaseFeb 01 17:15
cubexyznot too many devices have IR portFeb 01 17:18
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abeNd-orgmost of the models of netbooks i remember handling had an IR portFeb 01 17:25
abeNd-orgwhat do you use the ir port with these days that a usb/bluetooth/wireless interface wouldnt work with instead?Feb 01 17:25
cubexyzwell I've done some experiments using old tv remotes on my computerFeb 01 17:27
cubexyzI wanted to learn the IRDA stuffFeb 01 17:28
abeNd-orgneat, i remember playing around with palmpilots. been meaning to try the irblaster in my phone with the tv & such, never get around to it thoughFeb 01 17:29
cubexyzI have quite a large pile of old tv remotes so ... :)Feb 01 17:31
cubexyzthe old tvs are gone, but the remotes are still thereFeb 01 17:31
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cubexyzthe range on bluetooth would be a lot betterFeb 01 17:36
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cubexyzone advantage is IRDA is directionalFeb 01 17:40
cubexyzon the other hand, bluetooth is omnidirectionalFeb 01 17:40
cubexyzthere was some other advantage I'm trying to remember...Feb 01 17:41
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abeNd-orgi think that was it. creative labs had something like it at one point, never really messed with it though. now there are a zillion wifi/bluetooth apps to control a HTPC type computer from a smartphone , no need for that old ati remoteFeb 01 17:58
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schestowitzhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/climate-historical-dataFeb 01 18:18
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schestowitzhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/climate-historic/Feb 01 18:18
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schestowitzhttp://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/about/archivesFeb 01 18:20
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abeNd-orghrm... what is up with my ISPFeb 01 18:33
abeNd-orgbilling cycle total usage : 181.81 Gb todayFeb 01 18:34
abeNd-org215.82 Gb 3 days ago....Feb 01 18:34
schestowitzdid you use that up?Feb 01 18:43
schestowitzmaybe error in the web gui/backendFeb 01 18:44
schestowitzif you can download 10gb per hour, that's not a bad ISPFeb 01 18:44
schestowitzGB in 6 minuted on averageFeb 01 18:44
schestowitz*minutesFeb 01 18:44
schestowitzbut unless you stream HD 24/7, what can that be useful for?Feb 01 18:45
schestowitz6 TB in a month?Feb 01 18:45
abeNd-orgno, 300 Gb hard limit a monthFeb 01 18:49
abeNd-orgbut somehow my total usage has gone down in the last few daysFeb 01 18:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peeters_kris1/status/694224217315905538 https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/694230373136490496  https://twitter.com/AmadeoVH/status/694230660534398977 https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/694232324330930177Feb 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peeters_kris1: .@AmChamBE: “Belgium’s image lies in hands of Americans doing business in BE and Belgians working for US companies” #WordtoMouth #begovFeb 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @peeters_kris1 @AmChamBE jammer dat ondanks onderzoeken nog steeds geen voordelen aan TTIP ontdekt zijn. #Democratie #Schande #LeugensFeb 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AmadeoVH: @pinguinpatje @peeters_kris1 @AmChamBE Volgens mij wel hoor. Vrije handel misschien ?Feb 01 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @AmadeoVH @peeters_kris1 @AmChamBE @glynmoody Moody, @schestowitz 2 interessante mensen om te volgen.Geen voordelen voor burgers.Feb 01 18:55
schestowitz"Moody, @schestowitz 2 interesting people to follow. No benefits for citizens."Feb 01 18:55
cubexyzmy upload speed is rather crappyFeb 01 18:58
schestowitzhttp://dazeinfo.com/2010/06/22/superstitions-across-different-countries-an-overview/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Superstitions_by_country_or_regionFeb 01 19:06
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454349464783#c1907524334895974030Feb 01 19:19
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schestowitz"Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz The Pigs,Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzYes, but... You are paying for an intellectual property RIGHT so that you are paying a sum for something to which you have a legal right. You are not buying a good to which a VAT is attached but rather for a legal service. The current UK govt. has attached a charge (or tax) to using the courts and that has met with opprobrium from one and all. Meanwhile IP can only be obtained at a cost. That is a tax on innovation. Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz @No taxation without...Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzHow is innovation taxed?Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzOnly the desire to be granted a monopoly is fined, by a) disclosure of the (alleged) invention, and b) fees for upholding the monopoly (renewal fees).Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzIt's not a tax, IMHO, as one can easily avoid it (by not requesting a monopoly).Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzWheher one wants to pay the "fine" for a monopoly in turn is s.th. the owner of the intellectual knowledge mst decide, depending on circumstances, which we do not need to elaborate here.Feb 01 19:20
schestowitzIf a monopoly is granted, pricing is done, which will include an element of the costs of having obtaind the patent, and the knowledge of being alone on the market. Feb 01 19:20
schestowitz"Feb 01 19:20
cubexyz"Microsoft is now actively hostile to the end user"Feb 01 19:22
cubexyzcouldn't agree moreFeb 01 19:22
schestowitzsource?Feb 01 19:53
cubexyzhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/01/31/2359234/microsoft-edges-private-browsing-mode-isnt-actually-privateFeb 01 19:56
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cubexyzanonymous coward, search on "indifference"Feb 01 19:56
cubexyzcould even be a microsoft person saying itFeb 01 19:56
MinceRsurprise, surpriseFeb 01 20:03
schestowitzglad to see them being exposedFeb 01 20:05
schestowitzpeople will come to realisation that no matter what Microsoft says, it's lying, and there's no such thing as privacy at MicrosoftFeb 01 20:05
schestowitzand maybe then they'll realise they need to move to gnu/linux, except ubuntu pre-16.04 (has spyware)Feb 01 20:06
cubexyzI've seen more CrOS in the logs of lateFeb 01 20:09
cubexyzthere's still a lot NT 5.1 which I think is XPFeb 01 20:10
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36077/Feb 01 20:11
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schestowitz"Mac OS X is indeed another terrific example why the GPL is better than a BSD licence. You can cannibalize BSD code, but you can't do the same with GPL code. Mac OS X is built from Darwin, their own port of FreeBSD. "Feb 01 20:11
schestowitz"Feb 01 20:11
schestowitzI couldn't immediately find the web page for the current release open source license list:Feb 01 20:12
schestowitzhttp://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/Feb 01 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.opensource.apple.com | Mac OS X 10.6 - SourceFeb 01 20:12
schestowitzHowever, on this list -- which isn't going to be too far from the included list in any newer OS -- the GPL is called out at least 70 times.Feb 01 20:12
schestowitzMacOSX includes BSD, Apache, and GPL code. And so does every GNU/Linux distro.Feb 01 20:12
schestowitzAgain, I'm not arguing that GPL code is going to disappear from the planet... far from it. The GPL code base will continue to grow. However, it is very likely that as FOSS becomes a larger component of commercial systems, the GPL code and the 'FOSS-ness' of the end product will be hidden as much as possible. This isn't FUD at all. It has been happening all along, and seems to now be the obvious goal of the "Linux Foundation"Feb 01 20:12
schestowitz"Feb 01 20:12
cubexyzFOSS will not disappear thoughFeb 01 20:12
cubexyztoo many people writing it for it to vanishFeb 01 20:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/694242561104461824Feb 01 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @yorickdupon @Smienos @Microsoftbe @FOSSpatents @glynmoody @schestowitz even wat Google werk doen man!Feb 01 20:15
schestowitz2https://twitter.com/yorickdupon/status/694242235282538496Feb 01 20:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Benefits of Using Open Source Software in Government (Industry Perspective) | Tux MachinesFeb 01 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Celebrating 15 Years of SELinux | Tux MachinesFeb 01 20:45
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schestowitzhttp://fossbytes.com/your-smartphone-can-be-hacked-due-to-a-backdoor-in-your-processor/Feb 01 21:22
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MinceRhttp://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/features-are-faultsFeb 01 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tedunangst.com | features are faultsFeb 01 21:48
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454346803303#c834737486684226234Feb 01 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 01 22:25
schestowitz"Feb 01 22:25
schestowitz Letter of MEP A. Jongerius to European Commissioner Thyssen (Employment & Social affairs). I'm sure English translation will follow soon, the original is in Dutch.Feb 01 22:25
schestowitzhttp://www.epsu.org/IMG/pdf/Brief_Arbeidsconflict_Europees_Octrooibureau.pdf Feb 01 22:25
schestowitz"Feb 01 22:25
schestowitzCan anyone here speak Dutch? Double Dutch? ;-)Feb 01 22:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 02 00:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Now OfficiallyFeb 02 00:00
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schestowitz"you see microsoft is running the US election with their software on the voting machines"Feb 02 01:08
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2016/02/01/microsoft-infiltrates-us-politics/Feb 02 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Infiltrates Politics and Can Engage in Election Fraud in Iowa Right Now | TechrightsFeb 02 01:08
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2015/06/06/voting-systems/Feb 02 01:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Microsoft Squashed Free/Open Source Software in Voting Systems in the United States | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mr6v4 ]Feb 02 01:10
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msb_Discrimination against Linux users!  About a week ago the UI fonts -- menus, etc, not page content --  in Firefox suddenly became too small to read without a magnifier program.  I was using this Firefox add-on to adjust the font size, but the author suddenly removed Linux support:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/theme-font-size-changer/   I googled the problem, found a fix on this page, and posted a review on the add-on Feb 02 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | Theme Font & Size Changer :: Add-ons for FirefoxFeb 02 01:39
msb_page so other Linux users could see it.  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/947261  Today I looked at the add-on page and found that my review had been removed!  Another review said that all reviews critical for non-support  of Linux were being removed.  I reposted my review and added a threat at the end saying that I would report the add-on author to Mozilla if he removed it again.     Feb 02 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | Firefox menu font. Menus are incredibly small and impossible to read. | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla SupportFeb 02 01:39
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36077/Feb 02 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: E.E.E. is what the corporations are all about.: Guest Article: Introduction to Microsoft’s Growing Role in the R Project Through the Linux Foundation and E.E.E.Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz"Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz> However, on this list -- which isn't going to be too far from the included list in any newer OS -- the GPL is called out at least 70 times.Feb 02 01:49
schestowitzThat's really interesting. Some of those are libraries. I'm assuming that the only code that is linking to them are GPL utilities. It would be a bit embarassing if Apple code was linking to GPL stuff.Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz"Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz"It would be more than embarassing, it would mean that some of the Apple code all of a sudden became GPL. You can't reverse your decision once you ship your product with GPL code included. It's a done deal. "Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz"Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz    GCC FAQ wrote:Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz        2.2 So any program which uses libstdc++ falls under the GPL?Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz    No. The special exception permits use of the library in proprietary applications.Feb 02 01:49
schestowitz    https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq.html Feb 02 01:49
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7003975Feb 02 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Justice Department launches investigation into San Francisco police force https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/02/01/justice-department-to-investigate-san-francisco-police-force/ same #police that killed #murdock of #debianFeb 02 10:17
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7004018Feb 02 10:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694483595453423616https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694483595453423616Feb 02 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz it's a shame really. Great technology that got hijacked and ruined. Its part of how Microsoft damages computing in general,Feb 02 11:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/694485324878184448Feb 02 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz @LinuxVeda indeed the reason why so many were fooled by this bit of satire is that it is entirely plausible about himFeb 02 11:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/694479240474017792Feb 02 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jono Bacon urges users to ditch Linux and move to Mac OS X https://t.co/9FCzedCqLa satire, although like Mac Asay, plausibleFeb 02 11:40
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amarsh04Firefox 44 is bad enough, noticably slower than 43.0.4 in DebianFeb 02 12:15
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gde33ye :(Feb 02 12:46
gde33I was pondering a semi break away society of open source developers. Pick a cheap as dirt location, implement utlities, (drinking water, electricity, solar heat etc), a hospital, farms, food and drink processing, community kitchen, minimalistic housing, big servers and a bunch of minimalistic terminalsFeb 02 12:51
gde33then just scale the thing to make stuff workFeb 02 12:52
gde33ideally all the purchases are paid in advance and enough income is generated to do maintanance (think small)Feb 02 12:52
gde33if there are no bills to pay, we can just write software for funFeb 02 12:53
gde33eat when hungry, sleep when tired, get drunk when you need toFeb 02 12:53
gde33the amish are doing it without much technologyFeb 02 12:54
gde33with almost unlimited software development resources amazing things can be done with relatively poor roboticsFeb 02 12:54
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gde33building the plant nursing robot is not hard, the hard part is making sense of the data, chosing and implementing the right actionsFeb 02 12:55
gde33There would be some citizens (hereon refered to as coders) with some money to burn (could be small) and some who will need to do a commercial project at times to sustain the whole.Feb 02 12:57
gde33A friend of mine made a deal with a vacation cabin exploitant in tailand, he paid 1400 euro for 12 months including cleaning, laundry and breakfast.Feb 02 12:58
gde33the guy was actually happy to have a familiar face on his land, one could probably get the deal for < 1000Feb 02 13:00
gde33with some internet cafe-ish hardware you can have a ton of terminals on the cheapFeb 02 13:02
gde33I imagine it totally doable to have western quality of life for 1 euro per day, if we can produce code that would cost millions in a commerical setting the whole society should be sustainable as fuck :PFeb 02 13:04
gde33it could also work wonderfuly as a tourist magnetFeb 02 13:06
gde33spain seems a cool place for this, land is cheap as fuck, water isn't to easy but when you get it farming scales along with itFeb 02 13:13
gde33it also isn't to primitive, it is even in the EUFeb 02 13:13
gde33weather is greatFeb 02 13:13
oiaohm gde33 there is many levels of interesting.   From what is done in parts of Australia with auqaponics question if land is even required.Feb 02 13:14
gde33oiaohm: it isn'tFeb 02 13:14
gde33oiaohm: most interesting is using actually modern tech as opposed to maintaining very old infrastructureFeb 02 13:15
gde33there are lots, like nanotech water filters and/or using coloids combined with uv etc etcFeb 02 13:16
gde33aquaphonics is as easy as floating crates with vegitables on a basin holding fishFeb 02 13:17
gde33as long as the fish are healthy the crops growFeb 02 13:17
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schestowitzwhy is the internet so broken today?Feb 02 18:13
schestowitzincluding bt...Feb 02 18:13
schestowitzand lots of sites I visit...Feb 02 18:13
schestowitzhttp://tuxmachines.orgFeb 02 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle?Feb 02 18:14
cubexyzcheck your routerFeb 02 18:14
schestowitznot just me  thoughFeb 02 18:14
schestowitzmaybe a routing issue, not impossibleFeb 02 18:14
schestowitztesting... http://tuxmachines.org/galleryFeb 02 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | TuxGalleryFeb 02 18:14
schestowitzfast response, so it's just me thenFeb 02 18:14
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cubexyzfound a book which folks may find of interestFeb 02 18:57
cubexyz"Reliability of Computer Systems and Networks: Fault Tolerance, Analysis, and Design"Feb 02 18:59
cubexyzit has a lot of theory, and some good ideasFeb 02 19:02
schestowitzsome people don't read books (hi)Feb 02 19:02
schestowitzbecause they're too longFeb 02 19:03
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cubexyzoiaohm might have looked into reliability engineering'Feb 02 19:19
cubexyzit's an interesting subjectFeb 02 19:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/694600137767788544Feb 02 19:19
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cubexyzI'd love to find a service manual for cdrom drivesFeb 02 19:22
cubexyzthere was ECC, it's an old ideaFeb 02 19:24
cubexyzit used to be common, the IBM PC had ECC memory and this seems to have ended in the early 1990sFeb 02 19:25
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amarsh04has there been much reaction to the publication of this story? http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 02 19:39
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msb_cubexyz: When high-capacity (1024 bits and up) refreshed-capacitor semiconductor Feb 02 19:56
msb_RFeb 02 19:57
msb_RAM first came out, there was a lot of concern about bit errors due to alpha particles in the packaging.Feb 02 19:57
msb_So when I specified RAM boards for minicomputers I included ECC.Feb 02 19:58
msb_But I don't think my IBM-PC had it.  The problem had been solved by that time.Feb 02 19:58
msb_As RAM capacity and speed increased through the years, I was always surprised that random bit flips didn't become a problem, but they never have (even without ECC).Feb 02 20:01
msb_Maybe the IBM-PC had a parity bit, that would tell you about an error, but couldn't fix it.  Maybe populating those extra chips was an option.Feb 02 20:02
amarsh04http://mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.htmlFeb 02 20:05
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sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR cubexyz Sosumi XFaCE oiaohm msb_ pingFeb 02 20:12
*XRevan86 feels left out.Feb 02 20:13
msb_XRevan86: Our socialist candidate Bernie Sanders did well in the first pre-primary election, tying machine Democrat Clinton 50-50.Feb 02 20:15
XRevan86msb_: social-democrat, you wanted to say?Feb 02 20:15
XRevan86(at max)Feb 02 20:15
msb_He just says "socialist".Feb 02 20:15
msb_But he's not seeking to convert the economy.Feb 02 20:16
msb_He does advocate free university education, and maybe medical care, I'm not sure.Feb 02 20:17
XRevan86msb_: That's social democracy.Feb 02 20:17
msb_OKFeb 02 20:17
XRevan86Which would be a big step for US, if Sanders really is a nice guy :).Feb 02 20:17
msb_He seems to be -- very consistent over many years, and has a very sincere manner.Feb 02 20:18
msb_sebsebseb: HiFeb 02 20:19
cubexyzsome of the PDP-11s had ECC memoryFeb 02 20:20
cubexyzcan't remember which ones.... after mag core certainlyFeb 02 20:20
msb_Sure.  So did Data General Eclipse.Feb 02 20:21
XRevan86msb_: My suspicion works kind of like "if he's such a nice chap, why is he still alive?"Feb 02 20:21
msb_HeFeb 02 20:21
msb_He's still alive because he's not in power yet, except as a senator.Feb 02 20:22
XRevan86and politically aliveFeb 02 20:22
msb_The CIA is probably programming "lone nuts" as we speak.Feb 02 20:22
cubexyzis Sanders getting much TV coverage?Feb 02 20:23
msb_"Regime change" for the US.Feb 02 20:23
msb_About 1/20th of Rump's coverage on US corporate TV.Feb 02 20:24
MinceRhttp://blog.dilbert.com/post/138541628036/news-flash-cartoonist-gets-one-wrong#_=_Feb 02 20:24
msb_RT features him a lot.Feb 02 20:24
MinceR"As I was having these thoughts last night, some folks on Twitter mentioned that Republicans were using a new Microsoft app to tally results. Apparently that system was a bit buggy. Microsoft provided the system for free. Feb 02 20:24
MinceROh, and Microsoft is Rubio’s biggest donor. "Feb 02 20:24
cubexyzshades of Diebold :)Feb 02 20:25
XRevan86Rump is an US plagiat of Zhirinovsky.Feb 02 20:25
MinceRindeedFeb 02 20:25
cubexyzalthough I can't remember if Microsoft had anything to do with DieboldFeb 02 20:25
MinceRthey're both criminal organizationsFeb 02 20:25
XRevan86Oh, Zhirinovsky, who else would suggest to bomb US?Feb 02 20:25
cubexyzTrump is just a big fakeFeb 02 20:26
cubexyzsays whatever he thinks people want to hearFeb 02 20:26
MinceRwe've got lots of thoseFeb 02 20:27
XRevan86cubexyz: Not quite.Feb 02 20:27
msb_They all do that, except Sanders.Feb 02 20:27
MinceRhow do you know he isn't?Feb 02 20:27
XRevan86cubexyz: He seems to just be a political clown.Feb 02 20:28
cubexyzXRevan86, well yes, we can agree on that :)Feb 02 20:28
cubexyzhe's not astute enough to be a good liarFeb 02 20:28
msb_MinceR: If you mean Sanders, he's been advocating the same policies for many years, even when they've been unpopular.Feb 02 20:29
cubexyzisn't Sanders a bit old to become prez?Feb 02 20:29
*XRevan86 seeks for Zhirinovsky citations, but that's boringFeb 02 20:30
XRevan86I'd better go to YouTubeFeb 02 20:30
cubexyzReagan was 69 when electedFeb 02 20:30
MinceRmsb_: were those policies unpopular in the demographic that supports him now?Feb 02 20:30
cubexyzeven Hillary Clinton is up there at 69 years oldFeb 02 20:32
msb_That demographic has become much more leftish.Feb 02 20:32
MinceRicFeb 02 20:32
MinceRalso, i wonder if Sanders has a plan how to fight his party in congressFeb 02 20:32
msb_Sanders is 74.  But he does look a bit frail.  That worries me.Feb 02 20:32
MinceRhe may become president, but his party is still in the pockets of the megacorporationsFeb 02 20:33
MinceRand afaik he can't make law without congressFeb 02 20:33
XRevan86https://youtu.be/wd0tdVjyMvE?t=3m29s something like thatFeb 02 20:33
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cubexyzyeah it's becoming a corporatocracyFeb 02 20:35
msb_He can advocate good legislation to the people, and ad hoc polls can be taken showing they back it, and so shaming the machine Democrats.Feb 02 20:35
cubexyzand I include Canada in that tooFeb 02 20:35
cubexyzI can't buy a FTA PVR in my city which is ridiculousFeb 02 20:35
cubexyzdumb sales guy: You got Bell or Rogers?Feb 02 20:36
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cubexyzlook at income inequalityFeb 02 20:37
cubexyzCEO's get big bucks, workers salaries are stagnantFeb 02 20:37
cubexyzfactor in inflation and you have declining wages and benefits since the 1970sFeb 02 20:38
msb_It's all based on the 9-11 false-flag and the islamic terrorists initiated by the US in the 1980s.  Then the US attacks on Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Ukraine.  All these wars drive people to the right, which is where the ultra-wealthy want them.Feb 02 20:38
msb_The 21st Century would have been a jubilee, but was hijacked by those fascist moves.Feb 02 20:39
schestowitzamarsh04: http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/?comments=1Feb 02 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh25z ]Feb 02 20:39
schestowitz"Feb 02 20:39
schestowitzI'd figure the other EU bodies would relish the opportunity bring the EPO under their authority, as such I'm amazed by how they appear to have behaved (plenty of ammo provided above).Feb 02 20:39
schestowitzI suppose this story provides a good lesson as to why you need to get treaties right at the beginning otherwise you're stuck with them for a long long time Feb 02 20:39
schestowitz"Feb 02 20:39
schestowitz" That sounds kind of scary... Somehow being outside all of this here in switzerland doesn't feel too bad anymore... (If only switzerland were actually outside all of this, we are apparently EPO members too) "Feb 02 20:39
msb_Every time I see "EPOnia" I think of Elbonia.Feb 02 20:40
msb_The Dilbert country where people live in mud.Feb 02 20:40
XRevan86Russian for Japan is Yaponia.Feb 02 20:41
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/bank-asset-concentration-in-us-1997-2012.pngFeb 02 20:41
XRevan86msb_: I suspect creators of Dilbert series hate Albania.Feb 02 20:42
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msb_Does Albania have the wheel and fire yet?Feb 02 20:44
cubexyzAlbania was communist for a whileFeb 02 20:45
cubexyzso their GDP is increasingFeb 02 20:45
cubexyzbut according to statistics, 10.3% are below poverty lineFeb 02 20:46
XRevan86It was pretty much like NK, IIRC.Feb 02 20:46
cubexyzevidently they have lots of oil depositsFeb 02 20:46
XRevan86Political isolation total.Feb 02 20:47
msb_I'm sure 10% or more of USians are below the poverty line.Feb 02 20:51
XRevan86msb_: How dumb it is to be poor. They should get up and get education in a paid university. Oh, wait...Feb 02 20:52
cubexyzI think the Socialist Party of Albania is currently in power thereFeb 02 20:52
msb_Oil prices have recently gone very low.Feb 02 20:54
cubexyzXRevan86, what percentage of people in Albanian have internet access?Feb 02 20:55
cubexyzAlbaniaFeb 02 20:56
MinceRelbonia makes me think of hungaristanFeb 02 20:56
msb_The entire world capitalist economy is in a mess.  There are hundreds of trillions of dollars of "derivatives" being bought and sold, far greater than the GDP of the entire world.  If that bubble ever   pops it will be like a nuclear attack on the world economy.Feb 02 20:56
MinceRjust as nasty and backwardsFeb 02 20:56
XRevan86cubexyz: I spilled all I know about Albania. And that it's past.Feb 02 20:56
cubexyzok, Albania isn't too bad on internet access... says here it's 54.66% in 2012Feb 02 20:57
cubexyzon the other hand Afghanistan is 5.45%Feb 02 20:58
cubexyzHungary: 72%Feb 02 20:58
cubexyzRussia: 53.27%Feb 02 20:58
cubexyzUS: 81.03%Feb 02 20:58
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XRevan86Good moment to get cut of from Internet :).Feb 02 21:01
XRevan86off*Feb 02 21:02
msb_cubexyz: I think a lot of that increase in bank wealth is due to the repeal of the Glass-Steagle Act under the _Democratic Party_ Clinton administration,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Legislation  It had prevented banks from getting involved in stocks, derivatives, and the criminality that led to the 2008 crash.Feb 02 21:03
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XRevan86cubexyz: Another thing about Albania: it's a NATO member now.Feb 02 21:04
cubexyzyes, I saw thatFeb 02 21:04
cubexyzGlass-Steagle was repealed in 1999Feb 02 21:07
cubexyzseems a terrible ideaFeb 02 21:07
cubexyzrepealing itFeb 02 21:07
msb_And now we had Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, overseeing the destruction of the very prosperous Social Democratic nation of Libya, and gloating on TV, regarding Gaddafi -- "We came, we saw, he died"  I can't imagine voting for that psychopath for President.  She also looks totally insane.Feb 02 21:09
msb_The US/NATO attack on Libya was in 2011.Feb 02 21:09
msb_she also declared last night that she had won the Iowa caucuses vote, despite actually being tied with Sanders within 0.3%.  He's demanding a recount.Feb 02 21:13
MinceRthere are worse things about herFeb 02 21:13
msb_Do tell.Feb 02 21:13
MinceRlike how outraged she was about leaks about the nastiness ongoing in the us governmentFeb 02 21:13
MinceRshe's against transparencyFeb 02 21:13
MinceRtherefore she's against democracyFeb 02 21:13
msb_Yep.Feb 02 21:14
MinceRinteresting candidate for a party that calls itself "democratic"Feb 02 21:14
msb_They sold out long ago.Feb 02 21:14
msb_"Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband made at least $30 million over the last 16 months, mainly from giving paid speeches to corporations, banks and other organizations, according to financial disclosure forms filed with federal elections officials on Friday."  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/16/us/politics/clintons-reportedly-earned-30-million-in-the-last-16-months.html?_r=1  Feb 02 21:18
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schestowitzjust managed to lower our utility bills...Feb 02 21:24
schestowitz2 machines shut downFeb 02 21:24
schestowitzthey're dead, used to be on 24/7Feb 02 21:24
msb_This is the nation that Hillary Clinton, Obama, and NATO destroyed:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek  Note the so-called "dictator" Gadaffi riding through Tripoli, standing up in an open car without protection.Feb 02 21:25
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msb_I know I keep posting that video.  To me it's the saddest result of US fascism.Feb 02 21:29
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FriendlyfriendAMAZING article in UK  http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 02 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh1uw ]Feb 02 21:39
schestowitzyeahFeb 02 21:40
schestowitzseen itFeb 02 21:40
schestowitzhelped with it, it took me months to write itFeb 02 21:40
schestowitzglad to see it all coming out in one massive lump after all this time, just need tio make sure as many people as possible read itFeb 02 21:41
schestowitzincluding British politiciansFeb 02 21:41
schestowitzI will expand on that tomorrowFeb 02 21:42
schestowitzFriendlyfriend: quick question:Feb 02 21:42
schestowitzdo you know what's up with suepo's site? I plan to write about it later tonight, lack some details Feb 02 21:42
FriendlyfriendI know, I'm surprised too. I just sent them an email. I will sms to them too.Feb 02 21:43
schestowitzthank youFeb 02 21:44
schestowitzI will publish around 1amFeb 02 21:44
schestowitzworking this week every day, so can't do muchFeb 02 21:44
schestowitzI hope Glyn Moody's article does some of the 'legwork' at the moment, bringing a lot of people up to date w.r.t. EPOniaFeb 02 21:45
FriendlyfriendWhat you do is already enough - a little ott, but thanks anyway.Feb 02 21:46
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schestowitzlots of patents-related posts on their wayFeb 02 22:29
schestowitzEPO is having a lot of trouble and UPC in possibly in trouble now, along with software patentsFeb 02 22:30
schestowitzMicrosoft and Apple wouldn't be happyFeb 02 22:30
schestowitzAll they do is sue, threaten, blackmail/extortFeb 02 22:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/694598514047897600Feb 02 22:52
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cubexyzI can't see if the IBM PC had ECC memory or not but here is a decent pic:Feb 02 22:53
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ibm-pc-motherboard-1981.jpgFeb 02 22:53
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cubexyz16kx1 DRAMFeb 02 22:57
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cubexyzwow, 1024 bit memory must be really oldFeb 02 22:58
cubexyzthat's like magnetic core eraFeb 02 23:00
cubexyz32x32 coreFeb 02 23:00
cubexyzthe very first DRAM IC was the 1103Feb 02 23:01
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cubexyzso not too surprising, it was intel that invented the 1103 DRAMFeb 02 23:04
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cubexyzand 1 cent per bit, so each IC was about ten bucksFeb 02 23:07
cubexyz$80 per kilobyteFeb 02 23:07
cubexyz5k for 64K :)Feb 02 23:08
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/694652396874678273Feb 02 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz #EPO https://t.co/UlwesiujdjFeb 02 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UKFeb 02 23:37
schestowitz[20:25] <cubexyz> although I can't remember if Microsoft had anything to do with DieboldFeb 03 00:42
schestowitzDiebold renamedFeb 03 00:42
schestowitzto evade negative publicityFeb 03 00:42
schestowitzit also makes some stuff like ATMFeb 03 00:42
schestowitzit uses Windows for both voting and the latterFeb 03 00:42
schestowitztotal shamFeb 03 00:42
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cubexyzrightFeb 03 00:44
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cubexyzright, I should check into thatFeb 03 00:45
cubexyzdoes the US still use Diebold voting machines?Feb 03 00:56
cubexyzprobably old news but I'll post it anyways:Feb 03 00:59
cubexyzhttp://betanews.com/2016/01/28/bernie-sanders-campaign-is-right-microsoft-could-hurt-election-open-source-is-needed/Feb 03 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Bernie Sanders' campaign is right, Microsoft could hurt election -- open source is needed [ http://ur1.ca/oh348 ]Feb 03 00:59
cubexyzin Canada we use paper ballots and hand countsFeb 03 01:01
schestowitzyes, I saw trhatFeb 03 01:03
schestowitztux machines mentioned itFeb 03 01:03
schestowitzand the author retweeted me on itFeb 03 01:03
schestowitzfagioliFeb 03 01:03
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2016/02/01/microsoft-infiltrates-us-politics/Feb 03 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Infiltrates Politics and Can Engage in Election Fraud in Iowa Right Now | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/oh34w ]Feb 03 01:04
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2015/06/06/voting-systems/Feb 03 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Microsoft Squashed Free/Open Source Software in Voting Systems in the United States | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mr6v4 ]Feb 03 01:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here is why Linux is much better than WindowsFeb 03 01:21
TweetTuxMachines                 10 https://t.co/Ewk3upGVD5Feb 03 01:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 01:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh37fFeb 03 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here is why Linux is much better than Windows 10 | Tux MachinesFeb 03 01:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is NowFeb 03 01:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Available for Beta TestingFeb 03 01:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ISz7hPsxRK (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 01:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh37gFeb 03 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available for Beta Testing | Tux MachinesFeb 03 01:22
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msb_Concerted propaganda attack against Russia by US and its allies:Feb 03 10:20
msb_US allocating $4Billion more for military in Europe to protect against "Russian aggression"Feb 03 10:20
msb_US statement saying that Russia is the most dangerous threat, ISIL fifthFeb 03 10:20
msb_New UK tv show portraying Russia invading LatviaFeb 03 10:20
msb_New tv show in Norway portraying attack by RussiaFeb 03 10:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux OperatingFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 System for Kids, Closes ShopFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Us2PrTdZ7R (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4xyFeb 03 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for Kids, Closes Shop | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as aFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Touchpad, Miracast Coming SoonFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ndYTIDszWH (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4xzFeb 03 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as a Touchpad, Miracast Coming Soon | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable)Feb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QKwJoxSMBD (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4y0Feb 03 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable) | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source app takes on Ebola and mentalFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 health in Liberia https://t.co/sy8PEbVGPnFeb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh4y2Feb 03 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source app takes on Ebola and mental health in Liberia | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/694831956408848385Feb 03 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Must be using Cisco routers @schestowitz BT blames 'faulty router' for mega outage. https://t.co/mqNrR9WOwxFeb 03 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | BT blames 'faulty router' for mega outage. Did they try turning it off and on again? • The RegisterFeb 03 11:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ppsticino/status/694821200749527040Feb 03 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ppsticino: RT@schestowitz: #europe as a quasi US state https://t.co/rwqUUnMxJWFeb 03 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #europe as a quasi US state https://t.co/ahpX2GqvnmFeb 03 11:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Chrome Is Finally Getting SmoothFeb 03 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Scrolling on Linux https://t.co/Zdmm81XeSKFeb 03 11:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 11:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh50cFeb 03 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 03 11:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gaming: The Talos Principle – Road to GehennaFeb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lkpLdBGmHg (www.preining.info)Feb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #games #gnu #linuxFeb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh50dFeb 03 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.preining.info/blog/2016/02/gaming-the-talos-principle-road-to-gehenna/ )Feb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Samsung Hints at Feature Changes in Android N:Feb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Better Stylus Support? https://t.co/jTAc91mCg7Feb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.xda-developers.com) #android #linuxFeb 03 11:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh50eFeb 03 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Samsung Hints at Feature Changes in Android N: Better Stylus Support?Feb 03 11:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/694845375379824640   https://twitter.com/01micko/status/694846133420490752Feb 03 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lordbaco: E.T. https://t.co/FlItUHWHhNFeb 03 11:35
schestowitzJolla?Feb 03 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa new puff pieces: How a 47-Year-Old NSA Cryptography Test Still Excites Amateur Alien Hunters https://t.co/jZAtM2Y1lhFeb 03 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @schestowitz I want a phone NOT tied to some conglomerate. I make calls, surf, email.Feb 03 11:35
schestowitzJolla?Feb 03 11:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/01micko/status/694846767041351681Feb 03 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @schestowitz It's dead now unfortunately. Offering refunds :-(Feb 03 11:36
schestowitzThe tablet, not the phonesFeb 03 11:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     I want this Android-powered mirror that aFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Google engineer invented in his spare timeFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/MCktVeQQqS (www.theverge.com)Feb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #android #linuxFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh518Feb 03 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | I want this Android-powered mirror that a Google engineer invented in his spare time | The VergeFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Opinion: Three months later, is the Nexus 6PFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 still the best Android phone?Feb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9zrfPBfv0y (9to5google.com)Feb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh519Feb 03 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9to5google.com | Opinion: Three months later, is the Nexus 6P still the best Android phone? | 9to5GoogleFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Among development tasks, one of my leastFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 favorite is benchmarking and I tend toFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 procrastinate on it" https://t.co/UTwKj7GiRpFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.labbott.name) #fedoraFeb 03 11:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh51bFeb 03 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.labbott.name | Something witty/insightfulFeb 03 11:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crusader Kings II: Conclave expansion nowFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 available https://t.co/vL2nz3JdxPFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) #games #gnu #linuxFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh52zFeb 03 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Crusader Kings II: Conclave expansion now available | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/eTNcsUmJmwFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh530Feb 03 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The top 10 Linux security distrosFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1gd5wL6J4L (www.itproportal.com)Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh531Feb 03 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | The top 10 Linux security distros | ITProPortal.comFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turing Phone Drops Android For Sailfish OS,Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Delays Launch To April, Reneging On "No LaterFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Than Q1 2016" https://t.co/g4SfYJ7NwHFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh532Feb 03 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Turing Phone Drops Android For Sailfish OS, Delays Launch To April, Reneging On "No Later Than Q1 2016" PromiseFeb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tough Android phablet does sensing, scanning,Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 3G https://t.co/UKysAnaIf8 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh535Feb 03 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tough Android phablet does sensing, scanning, 3G ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 03 12:04
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for...'Feb 03 12:05
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen...'Feb 03 12:05
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on...'Feb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Luca Toma KDE Interview https://t.co/YTKMkQSQ81Feb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (dot.kde.org)Feb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh53gFeb 03 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Luca Toma KDE Interview | KDE.newsFeb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dell to ship XPS 13 Developer Edition LinuxFeb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 laptop with Skylake https://t.co/LW1LUltuQQFeb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.com)Feb 03 12:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh53hFeb 03 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Dell will ship XPS 13 Developer Edition "Project Sputnik" Linux laptops with Skylake chips | PCWorldFeb 03 12:06
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msb_XRevan86: Expanse 9 and 10 (the last) are out.Feb 03 12:10
XRevan86msb_: Oh yes, wednesday. Thanks.Feb 03 12:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/kEEE5gksZ6Feb 03 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 12:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh55qFeb 03 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 03 12:30
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/kEEE5gksZ6'Feb 03 12:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails 2.0 Linux Distro Improves Installation,Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Gets New Look https://t.co/IyXzmKTz3EFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.eweek.com)Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh55wFeb 03 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Tails 2.0 Linux Distro Improves Installation, Gets New LookFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AndEX Live CD Now Lets Users Run Android 6.0.1Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Marshmallow on Their PCsFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AE0KelAflu (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh55xFeb 03 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AndEX Live CD Now Lets Users Run Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow on Their PCsFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Set Up The Raspberry PI ZeroFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AO9H5vj7VXFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh560Feb 03 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | How To Set Up The Raspberry PI Zero « Everyday Linux UserFeb 03 12:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AndEX Live CD Now Lets Users Run Android...'Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel UpdatesFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 for All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Ng751ACiiE (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh561Feb 03 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel Updates for All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 03 12:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Releases Major Linux Kernel Updates for All...'Feb 03 12:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     14 Linux-based gifts ideas for your geekyFeb 03 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 valentine https://t.co/hx4lTcXdMV (www.cio.com)Feb 03 12:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh568Feb 03 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | 14 Linux-based gifts ideas for your geeky valentine | CIOFeb 03 12:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, DevsFeb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Promise a Lot of Good Convergence FixesFeb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ylblYWlogl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh569Feb 03 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, Devs Promise Lots of Good Convergence FixesFeb 03 12:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 Delay Imminent, Devs Promise a...'Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta,Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Includes TestDisk and PhotoRec 7.0Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fYSIg24bsm (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | 4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta, Includes TestDisk and PhotoRec 7.0Feb 03 12:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '4MRecover 16.0 Distrolette Enters Beta, Includes TestDisk and...'Feb 03 12:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here is why Linux is much better than WindowsFeb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 10 https://t.co/9nUGnNSsIh (www.techworm.net)Feb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56kFeb 03 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Here is why Linux is much better than Windows 10 » TechWormFeb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is NowFeb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Available for Beta TestingFeb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/anLYVXYuld (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56lFeb 03 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available for Beta TestingFeb 03 12:40
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lubuntu-Based LXLE 14.04.4 Linux Distro Is Now Available...'Feb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COMFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Express https://t.co/YbCDYvx9DrFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56yFeb 03 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linux-on-Skylake special: two SBCs and a COM Express ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Marshmallow: The smart person's guideFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FWuHYOZcjt (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh56zFeb 03 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Android Marshmallow: The smart person's guide - TechRepublicFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five Android home screen launchers worthFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 checking out https://t.co/uU6vBFhQTPFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh575Feb 03 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Five Android home screen launchers worth checking out - TechRepublicFeb 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux OperatingFeb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines                 System for Kids, Closes ShopFeb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RikbRb3xZD (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh576Feb 03 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for Kids, Closes ShopFeb 03 12:43
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Qimo, the Popular Ubuntu-Based Linux Operating System for...'Feb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as aFeb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Touchpad, Miracast Coming SoonFeb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mxOQLqRdou (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh57dFeb 03 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen as a Touchpad, Miracast Coming SoonFeb 03 12:43
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'You Can Now Use an Ubuntu Phone's Screen...'Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable)Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AWVqqe5Lgz (manjaro.github.io)Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh57yFeb 03 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Update 2016-02-02 (stable) – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityFeb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Chrome Is Finally Getting SmoothFeb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Scrolling on Linux https://t.co/EJnuJBoPW8Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 12:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/oh57zFeb 03 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google Chrome Is Finally Getting Smooth Scrolling on LinuxFeb 03 12:47
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454435598283#c8310776369025207044Feb 03 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 03 12:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 12:50
schestowitzAMAZING article in UKFeb 03 12:50
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 03 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh1uw ]Feb 03 12:50
schestowitz"Feb 03 12:50
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schestowitzAMAZING article in UKFeb 03 12:50
schestowitzAmazing indeed - and judging by this article and by the tone of the recent TV reports and articles in the Dutch press, it seems the the 800.000 EUR "to address the media presence of the EPO." went down the drain.Feb 03 12:50
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schestowitzPlenty more where that came from.Feb 03 12:50
schestowitzBB is dripping with cash ... Feb 03 12:50
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schestowitz" Amazing article should be compulsory reading. A good summary and clear explanation of most of the facts. Staff don't get 3 months leave and the AC's rejection of BB proposals in December have been ignored "Feb 03 12:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/694823888887357440Feb 03 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest how do you protect yourself from trolls? You can't.Feb 03 13:17
schestowitzzoobab_: indeedFeb 03 13:17
schestowitzthey don't mention that partFeb 03 13:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SportingbetSA/status/694878752950611968Feb 03 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SportingbetSA: At this point last season after 24 games, Leicester were bottom of the league with 17 points. https://t.co/8xgbXPDQ20Feb 03 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SportingbetSA: At this point last season after 24 games, Leicester were bottom of the league with 17 points. https://t.co/8xgbXPDQ20Feb 03 13:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Kloppholic/status/694877243449937920Feb 03 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Kloppholic: Football is more than just about player quality. It's about passion, a want, mentality, and spirit. Just look at Leicester for example. #LFCFeb 03 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The top 10 Linux security distrosFeb 03 13:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | The top 10 Linux security distros | ITProPortal.comFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDEFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                 software on a stable Ubuntu baseFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/K2xp9CgT1j (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 13:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDE software on a stable Ubuntu base | Tux MachinesFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Is Looking for Participants inFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                 "Ubuntu Apps in Unity 8" Research StudyFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/pdGEfyyGYB (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 03 13:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Canonical Is Looking for Participants in "Ubuntu Apps in Unity 8" Research StudyFeb 03 13:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition…also ship withFeb 03 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu.” https://t.co/uZGnati3awFeb 03 14:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Sold with $100 Discount to Make Way for New ModelFeb 03 14:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Dell will ship XPS 13 Developer Edition "Project Sputnik" Linux laptops with Skylake chips | PCWorldFeb 03 14:00
*TweetTuxMachines @DailyNetBlog favourited '“Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition…also ship with Ubuntu.”...'Feb 03 14:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Available for Download,Feb 03 14:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.3Feb 03 14:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Available for Download, Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.3Feb 03 14:08
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2016.02.01 Available for Download, Still Powered...'Feb 03 14:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you canFeb 03 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 use Linux Mint 17.3 instead?Feb 03 14:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you can use Linux Mint 17.3 instead? | ZDNetFeb 03 14:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tomb Raider Reboot from 2013 Might Arrive onFeb 03 14:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Steam for Linux https://t.co/b6qtKj4mE2Feb 03 14:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tomb Raider Reboot from 2013 Might Arrive on Steam for LinuxFeb 03 14:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Free-to-Play Winter Game SNOW Now Works onFeb 03 14:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/WuEMzR0zhYFeb 03 14:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Free-to-Play Winter Game SNOW Now Works on LinuxFeb 03 14:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tomb Raider Reboot from 2013 Might Arrive on...'Feb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BitTorrent Talks Encryption, Improved LinuxFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Support For Sync 2.3 https://t.co/Vl4Q57fk8jFeb 03 14:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcper.com | BitTorrent Talks Encryption, Improved Linux Support For Sync 2.3 | PC PerspectiveFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in theFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Series, Users Urged to UpdateFeb 03 14:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in the Series, Users Urged to UpdateFeb 03 14:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Devs Patch Zero-Day Linux KernelFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerability with the Latest UpdateFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mKhvW1m4XF (news.softpedia.com)Feb 03 14:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Devs Patch Zero-Day Linux Kernel Vulnerability with the Latest UpdateFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDEFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 software on a stable Ubuntu baseFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/N7YjUuGhEY (www.pcworld.com)Feb 03 14:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | KDE Neon offers the latest and greatest KDE software on a stable Ubuntu base | PCWorldFeb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04Feb 03 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS Daily Builds ISOs https://t.co/Qx86S9gRdxFeb 03 14:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Daily Builds ISOsFeb 03 14:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu...'Feb 03 14:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at ScreenFeb 03 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/vzkHcu5kqSFeb 03 14:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04Feb 03 14:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen...'Feb 03 15:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ​Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you can use Linux Mint 17.3 instead? | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at ScreenFeb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/iZostNik4TFeb 03 15:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here's What Unity Launcher Looks like at Screen Bottom in Ubuntu 16.04 | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04Feb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS Daily Builds ISOs https://t.co/PzgXnVyyUcFeb 03 15:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Now Part of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Daily Builds ISOs | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in theFeb 03 15:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Series, Users Urged to UpdateFeb 03 15:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.3.5 Is the Biggest Update in the Series, Users Urged to Update | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top Open Source Firewalls for Small BusinessFeb 03 15:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top Open Source Firewalls for Small Business | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The February 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOSFeb 03 15:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Magazine https://t.co/Wb00VyS0YfFeb 03 15:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The February 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux MachinesFeb 03 15:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux has once again dominated as the mostFeb 03 15:57
TweetTuxMachines                 commonly used operating system"Feb 03 15:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | Most Reliable Hosting Company Sites in January 2016 | NetcraftFeb 03 15:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Conference brings 560 delegates toFeb 03 16:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geelongadvertiser.com.au | Category: | Geelong AdvertiserFeb 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Highlights of SCaLE 14x https://t.co/SzBMRSlI5DFeb 03 16:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Highlights of SCaLE 14x | Linux.comFeb 03 16:21
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/uV11kqGFeb 03 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | #lump2016 - ImgurFeb 03 16:26
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454512184167#c673458874124905924Feb 03 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 03 16:33
schestowitz" WRT amount of leave at EPO, does anyone have a link to official information on that, please? The only source I could find was Le Monde. "Feb 03 16:33
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454514160285#c7891898709204185675Feb 03 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/oh64r ]Feb 03 16:34
schestowitz"Feb 03 16:34
schestowitz Confused cat,Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzThe "easy" answer is because you are not looking at the entire picture (which, when that picture is enlargened to include all payouts - including salaries - there very well may be NO increase in what you want to call "profit."Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzI post this "answer" as a hypothetical because I have not actually checked the numbers.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzHOWEVER, you raise a coincident - and NOT minor - point: How is that "productivity" being measured?Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzI would posit that any "measure" of productivity that does not take into account whether "faster" decisions maintain (or better yet, improve) a certain level of accuracy and correctness is a FALSE measure.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzI have been vocal in the states for quite a number of years pointing out that mere Rubber Stamping is bad.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzRubber Stamping is bad when the mantra is Reject Reject Reject.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzRubber Stamping is bad when the mantra is Accept Accept Accept.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzNeither mode is actually examining properly. ANY measure of productivity that omits this critical feature is simply NOT a proper measure and will only (quite naturally) lead to actions that game the system.Feb 03 16:34
schestowitzWe do need to hold the leaders of Patent Offices accountable - not for gamed "productivity," but rather for true and meaningful increases in productivity. Feb 03 16:34
schestowitz"Feb 03 16:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     American Truck Simulator has an early release,Feb 03 16:39
TweetTuxMachines                 day one for Linux https://t.co/dwrBObB68iFeb 03 16:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | American Truck Simulator has an early release, day one for Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 16:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Want to play XCOM 2? The system requirementsFeb 03 16:39
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux & SteamOS have been sent outFeb 03 16:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Want to play XCOM 2? The system requirements for Linux & SteamOS have been sent out | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 16:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Earth 2160, the RTS game looks like it'sFeb 03 16:39
TweetTuxMachines                 getting a Linux version on SteamFeb 03 16:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JVmh94eN4s (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 03 16:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Earth 2160, the RTS game looks like it's getting a Linux version on Steam | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 16:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Move Ubuntu's Unity Launcher to theFeb 03 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Bottom of the Screen https://t.co/6xbf44QXKkFeb 03 16:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | How to Move Ubuntu's Unity Launcher to the Bottom of the ScreenFeb 03 16:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #SUPERHOT will hit the PC, Mac and #Linux onFeb 03 16:41
TweetTuxMachines                 February 25 https://t.co/PlvAtmOVunFeb 03 16:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (nanonews.org) https://t.co/lntXdzVdUSFeb 03 16:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New #wine release https://t.co/BJQ2F6r9q0Feb 03 16:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nanonews.org | SUPERHOT will hit the PC, Mac and Linux on February 25 | NanoNews.orgFeb 03 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latinone.com | Time-Based Shooter Game 'Superhot" Coming on Feb. 25 for Linux, Mac & Windows PC [Gameplay & Details] : Tech : Latin OneFeb 03 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Wine 1.8 Gets Its First Point Release with over 20 Bugfixes and ImprovementsFeb 03 16:42
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'How to Move Ubuntu's Unity Launcher to the...'Feb 03 16:42
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New #wine release https://t.co/BJQ2F6r9q0'Feb 03 16:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Russian Super-Computing Users Get Tired OfFeb 03 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Catalyst, Start Looking At Open-Source AMDFeb 03 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fai1ulUUjm (www.phoronix.com)Feb 03 16:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Russian Super-Computing Users Get Tired Of Catalyst, Start Looking At Open-Source AMD - PhoronixFeb 03 16:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Radeon Open-Source vs. Catalyst With OpenCLFeb 03 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 CLPEAK https://t.co/iJZGbicEAoFeb 03 17:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     deepin 15.1 - Screencast and Screenshots Feb 03 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | deepin 15.1 - Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 03 17:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/84d6bklKWjFeb 03 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 03 17:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD Graphics https://t.co/mTL4sbfT1SFeb 03 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 03 17:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/F9RPsCkypVFeb 03 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 03 17:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/obdie8df94Feb 03 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 03 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 3/2/2016: Dell GNU/Linux Laptop, WineFeb 03 18:08
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txtFeb 03 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat looks to establish PHL unitFeb 03 19:40
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cubexyza while back I wrote that koffice was discontinuedFeb 03 19:59
cubexyzbut actually there's koffice-trinityFeb 03 19:59
cubexyzback in 2010 there was a split... koffice and calligraFeb 03 20:01
cubexyzso all the good stuff we all knew from KDE 3.5.10 still exists: kivio, kugar, karbon, kplato, kspread, kpresenter, etcFeb 03 20:02
cubexyzI'm doing all this on q4os Feb 03 20:04
cubexyzso that's TDE-3.5.13-2Feb 03 20:04
cubexyzno systemd worries, just download q4os-0.5.31-i386.isoFeb 03 20:06
MinceRhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/2/donald-trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize/Feb 03 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtontimes.com | Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize - Washington TimesFeb 03 20:10
cubexyzthe borg is at it againFeb 03 20:11
cubexyzM$ buys SwiftkeyFeb 03 20:11
schestowitzwho are they?Feb 03 20:12
schestowitzprobably some useless crapFeb 03 20:12
schestowitzthey just hired their employeesFeb 03 20:12
cubexyzpredictive keyboard technology companyFeb 03 20:13
schestowitzand made up some number for publicity purposesFeb 03 20:13
schestowitzmeh. who needs it...Feb 03 20:13
schestowitzmaybe MS wants to make money from hardware by slapping its crappy logo on itFeb 03 20:13
schestowitzas they did with webcams and miceFeb 03 20:13
cubexyzcould be useful for disabled folks thoughFeb 03 20:15
cubexyzthere's google keyboard for android, but I've never used AndroidFeb 03 20:16
schestowitznot even on some terminal, e.g. on a plane, equipment, surveys at some stores?Feb 03 20:18
schestowitzthey're used extensively to run 'apps' without exposing the OSFeb 03 20:18
schestowitznot just in tablets and phones, eitherFeb 03 20:18
cubexyzit's possible I've used it without realizing itFeb 03 20:18
schestowitzall the machines at the gym I go to now have Android on themFeb 03 20:18
cubexyze.g. if bookstores used it, then I might haveFeb 03 20:18
schestowitzI noticed yesterday, when speaking to someone at the gym, that many call software just apps now, even on desktopsFeb 03 20:19
schestowitzit's a new buzzword, 'app'Feb 03 20:19
schestowitzthe "chrome app"Feb 03 20:19
schestowitzthe "email app"Feb 03 20:19
schestowitzeven on WindowsFeb 03 20:19
cubexyzI have a zaurus :)Feb 03 20:20
cubexyzit had something called ipkgFeb 03 20:21
cubexyztotally out of date nowFeb 03 20:21
cubexyzWaterloo does a lot with androidFeb 03 20:23
cubexyzI just want a decent keyboard Feb 03 20:24
MinceRswiftkey is installed on many android devicesFeb 03 20:25
MinceRlooks like m$ wants to inject their malware into themFeb 03 20:25
cubexyzahaFeb 03 20:25
cubexyzand it's on iOS as wellFeb 03 20:26
cubexyzso my borg comment takes on added significanceFeb 03 20:26
cubexyzI'm thinking of buying one of those bluetooth keyboardsFeb 03 20:30
MinceRdo you have a link to a report of m$ buying swiftkey?Feb 03 20:31
msb_I've been using the word "app" short for application, not system software.Feb 03 20:31
MinceRwell, that's what it's short forFeb 03 20:32
msb_Maybe swiftkey is for "devices" -- phones, etc -- that don't have real keyboards.  Again, getting away from general purpose computers.Feb 03 20:32
MinceRalso, maybe swiftkey owns software patentsFeb 03 20:33
MinceRyou can connect a real keyboard to most android devices via usbFeb 03 20:33
cubexyzhttp://mobile.slashdot.org/story/16/02/03/1351209/microsoft-to-acquire-swiftkey-predictive-keyboard-technology-company-for-250mFeb 03 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.slashdot.org | Microsoft To Acquire SwiftKey Predictive Keyboard Technology Company For $250M - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/oh7aj ]Feb 03 20:33
cubexyzI'm sure someone will create a FOSS version of swiftkey, assuming one hasn't been created alreadyFeb 03 20:35
msb_http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RswbgKulL._SY355_.jpgFeb 03 20:38
MinceRthxFeb 03 20:42
MinceRwell, there are many free software virtual keyboardsFeb 03 20:42
MinceRnone that support split layouts as far as i know, thoughFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzsoftware patents could be used there ORFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzsome bundled crap like CortanaFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzbut we shall seeFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzI think it's some bogus numberFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzlike that time Red Hat bought a puppet rivalFeb 03 20:43
schestowitzMicrosoft still loses money in old monopoly areas, so they hardly know what the heck they're doingFeb 03 20:44
schestowitzthat's why they bought skypeFeb 03 20:44
schestowitzthey could never make a phone that's worth a f*Feb 03 20:44
schestowitzso they try to take over pertinent apps or functionalityFeb 03 20:44
schestowitz[20:10] <MinceR> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/2/donald-trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize/Feb 03 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtontimes.com | Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize - Washington TimesFeb 03 20:45
schestowitzSo was HitlerFeb 03 20:45
schestowitznomination does not say muchFeb 03 20:45
schestowitzI think it's not too hard to nominate. Winning is another thing.Feb 03 20:45
MinceRwinning does not say much eitherFeb 03 20:46
MinceRsince obama and othersFeb 03 20:46
cubexyzwhy did they nominate Trump?Feb 03 20:46
schestowitzBut Rump will jerk himself off to the GOP site (WashTImes) 'news'.Feb 03 20:46
MinceRcould be genuine belief, could be trollingFeb 03 20:46
MinceRcould be a PR stuntFeb 03 20:46
schestowitzprobably, not badFeb 03 20:46
schestowitzRump is all publicity stuntsFeb 03 20:46
schestowitzoutrageous statement so as to command the mediaFeb 03 20:47
schestowitzBut then, a lot of people would vote for any non-Rump GOP candidate just to keep "the craziest one" outFeb 03 20:47
schestowitzThat's why some people might vote Tories/CameronFeb 03 20:47
schestowitzto keep the more right-wing nuts, or UKIP/BNPFeb 03 20:48
schestowitzOr Jobbik in AbsurbistanFeb 03 20:48
schestowitzOrban as 'moderate'Feb 03 20:48
schestowitzThank G****** we got Orbn!!Feb 03 20:48
schestowitz"Could be worse with those neonazis..."Feb 03 20:48
schestowitzsame as in pricing tricksFeb 03 20:49
schestowitzput lots of super-expensive items, e.g. keyboardsFeb 03 20:49
schestowitzand then, after a while, present a cheaper (but still overpriced) oneFeb 03 20:49
schestowitzcompared to all the branded crap it looks like a "reasonable" priceFeb 03 20:49
schestowitzand you sell overprices crap. In politics you can market Hawks this wayFeb 03 20:50
schestowitzClinton not as bad as banning all Muslims entrants to the USFeb 03 20:50
msb_either the GOP winner or the other one after Rump explicitly accepted the support of one psycho who advocates killing abortion doctors, and another who says jews who don't accept jesus should be hunted down and killed, eg, by someone like Hitler.Feb 03 20:51
msb_I think that even mainstream Islam is dangerous.  As a mind-virus it's too successful.Feb 03 20:53
msb_And it dictates laws, food, clothing, etcFeb 03 20:54
msb_I think would-be muslim immigrants should be given a Voight-Kampff test or something, and if they're true believers they should be kept out.Feb 03 20:57
msb_I mean muslim would-be immigrantsFeb 03 20:59
msb_Islam is also anti-woman.Feb 03 21:02
msb_And it contains at least the seeds of jihadism.Feb 03 21:02
abeNd-orgmsb_ & you are the "ignorant racist" for even thinking about things like that :PFeb 03 21:03
msb_Just the opposite of ignorant -- I know too much.Feb 03 21:04
abeNd-orggood luck convincing people of thatFeb 03 21:05
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msb_I don't care about a person's skin color, nation, language, anything like that.  But if they have a dangerous contagious disease -- biological or psychological -- _that_ I care about.Feb 03 21:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are hereFeb 03 22:06
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schestowitz>   Longtime Engineering Leader Jon DeVaan Is LeavingFeb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz> http://www.geekwire.com/2013/longtime-microsoft-engineering-leader-jon-devaan-leaving/Feb 03 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekwire.com | Longtime Microsoft engineering leader Jon DeVaan is leaving - GeekWire [ http://ur1.ca/oh851 ]Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz>  Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz>  Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz>  Feb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Microsoft Whistleblowing Alleges That Microsoft/Jon DeVaan Engages inFeb 03 23:42
schestowitz> Political Corruption/Election FraudFeb 03 23:42
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schestowitz>     http://techrights.org/2010/10/02/govt-bribery-nymshifting-allegationFeb 03 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Whistleblowing Alleges That Microsoft/Jon DeVaan Engages in Political Corruption/Election Fraud | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1wf8k ]Feb 03 23:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE 13.1 Linux Has Reached End of Life,Feb 04 00:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #LittleBigPlanet developers seeking funding forFeb 04 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 co-op action adventure, #Linux confirmedFeb 04 01:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/695179693633466368Feb 04 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Source code listings is a real insult to software development.Feb 04 09:43
schestowitzPretending they're authors of some MS Word documentFeb 04 09:43
schestowitz"Feb 04 09:51
schestowitzplease find news from the EPO (below) and attached cartoons expressing staff's mood.Feb 04 09:51
schestowitzregards,Feb 04 09:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Flock 2016: Kraków, #PolandFeb 04 10:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 terrific Android apps you can’t get on theFeb 04 10:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build,Feb 04 10:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1Feb 04 10:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The case for educating judges on open sourceFeb 04 10:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 6 open source CRM tools for 2016Feb 04 10:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Go phish your own staff: Dev builds open-sourceFeb 04 10:12
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schestowitznews from the EPO  and  cartoons just published Feb 04 10:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popsci.com | Google’s Android Devices May Go The iPhone Route | Popular ScienceFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "create Tizen 2.3 or 2.4 native applicationsFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 that can send your location"Feb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/njVdo7mdzV (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 not good, disallow that. #samsung #linuxFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaavFeb 04 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Video - Tizen Native Geocode API - Tizen ExpertsFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 of the best free #Linux #firewallsFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c7Jm8j922S (www.techradar.com)Feb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaawFeb 04 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | 6 of the best free Linux firewalls | TechRadarFeb 04 10:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-AppsFeb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux Mint 18 "Sarah"Feb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hOD3dsDBXt (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxmint #gnu #linuxFeb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohad0Feb 04 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-Apps for Linux Mint 18 "Sarah"Feb 04 11:07
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Mint Devs Showcase the First Two X-Apps...'Feb 04 11:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Online Summit for Ubuntu 16.10 to StartFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 in May https://t.co/xtdxknYf2IFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com) https://t.co/RGfiSOu1qxFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Online Summit for Ubuntu 16.10 to Start in MayFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaddFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu 16.10 Planning Will Take Place At UOS In May: What Do You Hope To See? - PhoronixFeb 04 11:13
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Online Summit for Ubuntu 16.10 to Start...'Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End ofFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Life, Users Urged to Upgrade NowFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3TeyLMECll (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadeFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade Now | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, NVMe Device CloningFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FPzb5iezPP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadfFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2 Support, NVMe Device Cloning | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hoodie aims to be one of open source's mostFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 diverse and inclusive communitiesFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rmXghpVeMf (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadgFeb 04 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hoodie aims to be one of open source's most diverse and inclusive communities | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out NowFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 for Windows Refugees - Screenshot TourFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5QvQonvV3Q (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadrFeb 04 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out Now for Windows Refugees - Screenshot Tour | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone Users Getting Patch for Mir BugFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 That Made Their Devices UnstableFeb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6E6Pejczgu (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 11:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohadsFeb 04 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phone Users Getting Patch for Mir Bug That Made Their Devices Unstable | Tux MachinesFeb 04 11:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone Users Getting Patch for Mir Bug...'Feb 04 11:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out...'Feb 04 11:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2 Support,...'Feb 04 11:17
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End of...'Feb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are hereFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MBbfifGKYt (zoringroup.com)Feb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #zorinos #gnu #linuxFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohajyFeb 04 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zoringroup.com | Zorin OS 11 Core & Ultimate are here | The official Zorin BlogFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Build2 : Another New C++ Build Toolchain /Feb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Build System / Package ManagerFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Xk1ZAtsPac (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #programming #cppFeb 04 12:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohajzFeb 04 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Build2: Another New C++ Build Toolchain / Build System / Package Manager - PhoronixFeb 04 12:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ladyfox14/status/695217414741454848Feb 04 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ladyfox14: @aral @schestowitz - Yup. Removed it because it's almost always running in the background and it takes up so much space.Feb 04 12:37
schestowitz(Facebook)Feb 04 12:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/695227464784723968Feb 04 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @lifehacker The big issue here is this expectation of free. It means the company cant afford to care.Feb 04 12:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/695228213384056832Feb 04 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Really owning (controlling) what we buy is becoming even more important. #privacy https://t.co/8Jez4fk3SbFeb 04 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In-house mass #surveillance standards for #internet -connected devices with sensors (e.g. cameras) https://t.co/WQ2pq43ut8 #iotFeb 04 12:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/695229140295925760Feb 04 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Reminded, daily, of @zmaglh's surveillance manifesto: "every object the individual uees…", https://t.co/2RRCOzhxsT https://t.co/8Jez4fk3SbFeb 04 12:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Wayland 1.10 Beta Released Along With #WestonFeb 04 12:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Update https://t.co/1dA2by3LMkFeb 04 12:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #graphics #linuxFeb 04 12:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaohFeb 04 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland 1.10 Beta Released Along With Weston Update - PhoronixFeb 04 12:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Poppins https://t.co/np9NxMjeORFeb 04 13:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com) #freeswFeb 04 13:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaqfFeb 04 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Poppins | Linux JournalFeb 04 13:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MEM 5.0 Aims to Simplify #OpenStack Management Feb 04 13:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/B2NcrgDyW1 (www.linux.com)Feb 04 13:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaqgFeb 04 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | MEM 5.0 Aims to Simplify OpenStack Management | Linux.comFeb 04 13:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why #Enlightenment & #Tizen Love #WaylandFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vhv6c7IbHN (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QISJX2Sdzg (www.phoronix.com) Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VrwAhDO8MHFeb 04 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Why Enlightenment & Tizen Love Wayland - PhoronixFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (phab.enlightenment.org) #graphics #linuxFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaqzFeb 04 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Enlightenment 0.20.4 Released With A Number Of Wayland Fixes - PhoronixFeb 04 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/3/post/e20_4_release/ )Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More Fedora 24 Changes Being Discussed: GlibcFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 2.23, Graphical System UpgradesFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YVY6DmXlru (www.phoronix.com) #f24Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #fedora #redhatFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohar0Feb 04 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | More Fedora 24 Changes Being Discussed: Glibc 2.23, Graphical System Upgrades - PhoronixFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #nvidia exclusives now? Torvalds should showFeb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 them the finger https://t.co/sFXjDJaI11Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/AmLeco9Ik1Feb 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/52FEgMwNEeFeb 04 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | XCOM 2 for Linux Launches Only with Nvidia Support, Intel and AMD to FollowFeb 04 13:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 04 13:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohar1Feb 04 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Highly-Anticipated XCOM 2 Game For Linux Will Be NVIDIA-Only - PhoronixFeb 04 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | XCOM 2 can be pre-loaded ready for release on SteamOS/Linux & exact release time revealed | GamingOnLinuxFeb 04 13:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LetUsComment/status/695236193030639623Feb 04 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LetUsComment: Sans surprise. https://t.co/Iwzg2DrygZFeb 04 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Uninstalling #Facebook app saves up to 20% of #Android battery life https://t.co/5MAiQZu83g malware, not an app, 24/7 physical trackingFeb 04 13:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mir 0.19 Brings Fixes, #Mir 0.20 Now InFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Development https://t.co/PkOHi2KugzFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #canonical #ubuntu #gnuFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxFeb 04 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mir 0.19 Brings Fixes, Mir 0.20 Now In Development - PhoronixFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohasvFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Ubuntu Developers Release #Snapcraft 2.1Feb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/08odELLAxH (www.phoronix.com) #gnuFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaswFeb 04 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu Developers Release Snapcraft 2.1 - PhoronixFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Is Now Bringing The ObservationFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Architecture To Their Linux DriverFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/o69WYl2b9Z (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #intel #linuxFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohasxFeb 04 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Is Now Bringing The Observation Architecture To Their Linux Driver - PhoronixFeb 04 13:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #Docker 1.10 Designed to Bolster #ContainerFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security https://t.co/JEQ6jGMgRcFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.eweek.com) #freeswFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohaw9Feb 04 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Docker 1.10 Designed to Bolster Container SecurityFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #LinuxLite 2.8 - Screencast and Screenshots Feb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pLD4AGJkL0Feb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org) more atFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EbSeHMjVz3Feb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Feb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohawaFeb 04 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Linux Lite 2.8 - Screencast and ScreenshotsFeb 04 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Linux Lite 2.8 Released With Linux Kernel 3.19, BTRFS Support And More - LinuxAndUbuntuFeb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/FU9UqYH1w0Feb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohawbFeb 04 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 04 14:05
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454517537390#c8479904392492915187Feb 04 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 04 14:08
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:08
schestowitz @glyn moodyFeb 04 14:08
schestowitzArticle 59 of the EPO Service Regulations reads as follows:Feb 04 14:08
schestowitz(1)(a) Permanent employees shall be entitled to annual leave of thirty working days per calendar year. For the purposes of this chapter, Saturdays shall not count as working days. Annual leave should normally be taken before the end of the current calendar year. If this is not possible because of the requirements of the service, it must be taken in the next following year.Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzThe EPO Service Regulations can be found here:Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzhttp://www.epo.org/news-issues/press/releases/archive/2015/20150930.htmlFeb 04 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO publishes its staff rules and regulations [ http://ur1.ca/ohawm ]Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzThe link for downloading the Service Regulations:Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzhttp://www.epo.org/service-support/publications.html#id=108Feb 04 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Publications [ http://ur1.ca/ohawn ]Feb 04 14:08
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:08
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454527348284#c8772416040698107496Feb 04 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax1 ]Feb 04 14:10
schestowitz"I would like to join my voice to the chorus of praise for the work of Mr Glyn Moody and for the rapid correction in the excellent report of the wrong information about leave. Bravo! "Feb 04 14:10
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454529263795#c3601889691333479052Feb 04 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax3 ]Feb 04 14:10
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:10
schestowitz His experience is all at the Patent Office of France, which doesn't do any examination of patentability whatsoever. Instead it grants you a patent as soon as you pay him his fees.Feb 04 14:10
schestowitzSounds like the indulgences racket of the medieval papacy. Feb 04 14:10
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:10
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454543903459#c2892865990863854560Feb 04 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax4 ]Feb 04 14:11
schestowitz" For comparison, when I was an examiner with the UKIPO between the mid-1970's and 1989, annual leave was initially 25 days, rising to 30 days after 10 years' service. To these were added around 8 1/2 days for the usual public holidays and privilege holidays for events such as the Queen's birthday and Maunday Thursday. I don't know what the present situation is. "Feb 04 14:11
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454568937515#c2868803486951504442Feb 04 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohax7 ]Feb 04 14:11
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:11
schestowitz @ all the people praising Mr. Moody and his articleFeb 04 14:11
schestowitzwhile adding my voice to this chorus, I warmly suggest you to reiterate or write your comments on HIS blog.Feb 04 14:11
schestowitzThis will only further stimulate the discussion.Feb 04 14:12
schestowitzAlso, a copy should be defiinitely forwarded to the british member(s) of the Administrative Council of the EPO.Feb 04 14:12
schestowitzBut really, thanks Mr. Moody for such a detailed and well researched article. Feb 04 14:12
schestowitz"Feb 04 14:12
schestowitzYou got mentioned here http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/02/welcome-to-eponia-the-strange-land-of-european-patents-that-is-outside-the-law/Feb 04 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.co.uk | Welcome to EPOnia, the strange land of European patents that is outside the law | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/oh1uw ]Feb 04 14:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $40, 64-bit Odroid SBC runs Linux on 2GHzFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Cortex-A53 https://t.co/pz5Nsd4ktsFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com) #linuxFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohb14Feb 04 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | 64-bit Odroid SBC runs Linux on 2GHz quad-core Cortex-A53 ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #MadMax looks like it really is coming toFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 #SteamOS & Linux after all, another massiveFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 game for us https://t.co/FhzPJe71vlFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohb15Feb 04 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Mad Max looks like it really is coming to SteamOS & Linux after all, another massive game for us | GamingOnLinuxFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Incoming! Fleet Commander 0.7Feb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ws4GeEp7kyFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (siliconislandblog.wordpress.com) #gnome #gnuFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #freeswFeb 04 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconislandblog.wordpress.com | Incoming! Fleet Commander 0.7 – Silicon IslandFeb 04 14:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohb16Feb 04 14:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Batman: Arkham Knight for Linux & SteamOSFeb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 cancelled https://t.co/NDunRd1vweFeb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/jgDDPlJpA1Feb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/aaUcxok3pNFeb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Batman: Arkham Knight for Linux & SteamOS cancelled | GamingOnLinuxFeb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohb2kFeb 04 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Batman: Arkham Knight Gets Canceled For Linux - PhoronixFeb 04 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Batman: Arkham Knight Linux Port CancelledFeb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE 13.1 Linux Has Reached End of Life,Feb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Evergreen Team Takes OverFeb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kK9vtHQOBl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohb2lFeb 04 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE 13.1 Linux Has Reached End of Life, Evergreen Team Takes OverFeb 04 14:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build,Feb 04 14:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 LTSFeb 04 14:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0ZALa8e5GL (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0ZALa8e5GL (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohb2mFeb 04 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build, Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 LTSFeb 04 14:47
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build,...'Feb 04 14:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware 14.2 Linux Gets a Second Beta Build,Feb 04 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 LTSFeb 04 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0ZALa8e5GL (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JYixTzwyxL (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohb38Feb 04 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Unofficial Linux Kernel 4.4.1 Available Now for Slackware 14.2 and DerivativesFeb 04 14:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1Feb 04 14:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Snappy Creator ToolFeb 04 14:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iX2aFjiIiZ (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Releases Groundbreaking Snapcraft 2.1 Ubuntu Snappy Creator ToolFeb 04 14:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/Khzp3bbm9pFeb 04 14:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 04 14:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End ofFeb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Life, Users Urged to Upgrade NowFeb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xNaVtPD68p (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Has Reached End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade NowFeb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2Feb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, NVMe Device CloningFeb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/WAtryEFZ4R (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 14:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Clonezilla Live 2.4.5-20 Out Now with NILFS2 Support, NVMe Device CloningFeb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out NowFeb 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines                 for Windows Refugees - Screenshot TourFeb 04 14:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Zorin OS 11 Core and Ultimate Editions Out Now for Windows Refugees - Screenshot TourFeb 04 14:52
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454585031427#c71186501115529646Feb 04 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today... [ http://ur1.ca/ohbya ]Feb 04 20:43
schestowitz" Thanks to everyone for providing links to the 30 days information, and for the kind words. "Feb 04 20:43
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/02/epo-appoints-new-chief-economist.html?showComment=1454588096595#c2243808389875867038Feb 04 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO appoints new Chief Economist [ http://ur1.ca/ohbyd ]Feb 04 20:43
schestowitz"Feb 04 20:43
schestowitzwhat a coincidence : another frenchman !Feb 04 20:43
schestowitzIt is like the staff reps sanctioned : all suepo officials... another coincidence like VP1 recently said in an interview for Dutch NieuwsuurFeb 04 20:43
schestowitzle hasard fait bien les choses Feb 04 20:43
schestowitz"Feb 04 20:43
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/695264306062090240Feb 04 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @J_Utah I would read that book.Feb 04 20:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/695255545616408576Feb 04 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @peterkofod Perish the thought.Feb 04 20:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/695359958859120642Feb 04 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: Drake case represented an attempt by government officials to send a chilling message to whistleblowers: "Shut up.” https://t.co/1wuNh8d5fbFeb 04 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why Did The Government Prosecute This Original #NSA Whistleblower? https://t.co/qf1wIRRQr9 ... https://t.co/A9YYonWQDsFeb 04 21:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/695360958412169217Feb 04 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@theGuruWithin: .@BernieSanders #WarPeace #MLK #WeEndorseBernie .@nn99org #LOVELUTION #BLM .@YYogaMovie https://t.co/6m3wZIkE0U https://t.co/dRc4u4E3iJFeb 04 21:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/695269445384667137Feb 04 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: Don't we all? https://t.co/0Cq4sE5jvSFeb 04 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Makakke: @Snowden "Politikerverdrossenheit" would be more correct. German people have more apathy about politicians, not about politics in general.Feb 04 21:41
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Samoan_Attorney/status/695363192780779522Feb 04 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Samoan_Attorney: @schestowitz strong, strong words.Feb 04 21:51
schestowitzCruz has double standardsFeb 04 21:51
MinceR(javascript) (audio) http://trumpdonald.org/Feb 04 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trumpdonald.org | TrumpDonald.orgFeb 04 21:55
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/if-you-go-down-to-hague-today.html?showComment=1454599942794#c1267551618688276886Feb 04 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: "If you go down to the Hague today...Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz There is no such thing as the French Patent Office (FPO).Feb 04 21:56
schestowitzThe Grande Nation has a National Institute of Industrial Property known as the INPI ! Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz"Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz "How kind of Madhouse to write in and say that I am "rather wrong"."Feb 04 21:56
schestowitzIndeed I was kind, I could have written "completely wrong". I didn't at all confirm what you said. The FPO's examination on patentability may be limited, but there is one, contrary to what you said, and your answer is "rather" graceless, I'm sorry. That'll teach me to try to improve your patent education in the future.Feb 04 21:56
schestowitzI'm not French myself, but I really can't abide with the pervasive French-bashing in all Battistelli-related threads. He's hardly beloved in his home country, you know, and AFAIK, the staff of the FPO was also quite glad to see the back of him when he left...Feb 04 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | The College Where Martin Luther King Is Problematic - The Daily BeastFeb 04 22:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Justin W. Flory: How do you Fedora?Feb 04 22:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Justin W. Flory: How do you Fedora?Feb 04 22:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Justin W. Flory: How do you Fedora? | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 ReleasedFeb 04 22:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 Released | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu ConvergedFeb 04 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 TabletFeb 04 22:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu Converged Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 Tablet | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 ReleasedFeb 04 22:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.1.6 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.16 Released | DNFFeb 04 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ubuntu converged https://t.co/8mgKNKrRIIFeb 04 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines                 (betanews.com) https://t.co/Lh3SWvS85MFeb 04 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces the First Ubuntu Converged Device, the BQ Aquaris M10 TabletFeb 04 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxuser.co.uk) https://t.co/FOcU83yOw0Feb 04 22:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Canonical fulfills its Linux convergence vision with BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition tabletFeb 04 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Canonical announce first converged Ubuntu tablet - the Aquaris M10 | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 04 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Canonical Lands Ubuntu Linux on Tablets for Computing ConvergenceFeb 04 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Ubuntu Tablets Arrive: Canonical Reaches Convergence for Linux-Based OS | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 04 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - AbsolutelyFeb 04 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 fantastic https://t.co/2hqpbBEp5KFeb 04 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dedoimedo.com)Feb 04 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - Absolutely fantasticFeb 04 22:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bosyber/status/695380689034698752Feb 04 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosyber: Glad I live in an open democracy, German parliament clearly has access to all info it needs. Wait, what? https://t.co/bDKHbgYE1sFeb 04 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tiny Cell With Omnipresent Guard, Visitors Just Twice A Day: #TAFTA / #TTIP German 'Transparency' Room https://t.co/4UjafUoeFy by @glynmoodyFeb 04 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Application Spotlight: TerminologyFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KReXcYlemI (it.toolbox.com)Feb 04 23:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.toolbox.com | Application Spotlight: TerminologyFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PSA: Support for #Ubuntu 15.04 Ends TodayFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rjQYXsFYPO (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Feb 04 23:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu 15.04 Is No More, As Canonical Axe Official SupportFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Endless Is The Latest Company To Join GNOME'sFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Advisory Board https://t.co/HKflK4rjkuFeb 04 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 23:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Endless Is The Latest Company To Join GNOME's Advisory Board - PhoronixFeb 04 23:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/695384435106054146Feb 04 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: The corporatization of #linux. Usually the death knell for #OSS products. https://t.co/5hk3LfbDCJFeb 04 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today I was thinking of the term "Linux advocate". I think they ceased to exist about a decade ago when corporations took over this job.Feb 04 23:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/695384435106054146Feb 04 23:13
cubexyzwe are the real linux advocates, the grass roots onesFeb 04 23:14
cubexyzlots of countries have their own distrosFeb 04 23:14
cubexyzAntiX, Q4OS, Vector Linux, OpenBSD, BL3 to name a fewFeb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Tablet: Everything You Need to KnowFeb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VUAzsmOqqz (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Feb 04 23:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Everything You Need to Know About The Ubuntu TabletFeb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/N8H6XBPUZi (www.zdnet.com)Feb 04 23:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Canonical reinvents the personal mobile computing experience | Ubuntu InsightsFeb 04 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Canonical Reveals The Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet - PhoronixFeb 04 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Here comes the first Ubuntu Linux tablet | ZDNetFeb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First X-Apps, openSUSE Board, Faces of FOSSFeb 04 23:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PhDX3sDDyG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First X-Apps, openSUSE Board, Faces of FOSS | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - AbsolutelyFeb 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines                 fantastic https://t.co/1uphNC2rM1Feb 04 23:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa Xfce - Absolutely fantastic | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More on BQ Aquaris M10 https://t.co/Qi8166rwKBFeb 04 23:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on BQ Aquaris M10 | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PSA: Weird Worlds: Return to Infinite Space nowFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                 on Linux https://t.co/bm2ItFBk7DFeb 04 23:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gamepolitics.com | PSA: Weird Worlds: Return to Infinite Space now on Linux – GamePoliticsFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Community Calls All Artists toFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Contribute Wallpapers to Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 04 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/KJjQsbwGGU (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 04 23:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Community Calls All Artists to Contribute Wallpapers to Ubuntu 16.04 LTSFeb 04 23:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Freeciv 2.5.2 Free Strategy Game Is Inspired byFeb 05 00:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Original Civilization https://t.co/5XYpyHK2OTFeb 05 00:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Freeciv 2.5.2 Free Strategy Game Is Inspired by Original CivilizationFeb 05 00:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Freeciv 2.5.2 Free Strategy Game Is Inspired by...'Feb 05 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old GamesFeb 05 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 from SNES Era https://t.co/BaO1yaNi1bFeb 05 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old Games from SNES EraFeb 05 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RadeonSI Gallium3D Can Work With XCOM 2 OnFeb 05 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/wubLy1PZTLFeb 05 00:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | RadeonSI Gallium3D Can Work With XCOM 2 On Linux - PhoronixFeb 05 00:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old...'Feb 05 00:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here Is What Happens When Trying To UseFeb 05 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Non-NVIDIA Drivers To Play XCOM 2 On LinuxFeb 05 00:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Here Is What Happens When Trying To Use Non-NVIDIA Drivers To Play XCOM 2 On Linux - PhoronixFeb 05 00:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FFmpeg 2.8.6 "Feynman" Released, Drops SupportFeb 05 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 for VisualOn AAC and libaacplusFeb 05 00:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ice for SteamOS Now Lets Users Play Old GamesFeb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    from SNES Era https://t.co/BaO1yaNi1bFeb 05 00:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/j4h0p0BfW5Feb 05 01:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More on Unicef's FOSS PlansFeb 05 01:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More on Unicef's FOSS Plans | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/ULsrpGM0q1Feb 05 01:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/Tp4r2JCBchFeb 05 01:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/7e1WB0X8LAFeb 05 01:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/J7DgNnKOl4Feb 05 01:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 05 01:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/2/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Ubuntu TabletFeb 05 01:33
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msb_UN panel finds in favor of Julian Assange, that he's been unlawfully detained for 3.5 years and should be freed.Feb 05 08:28
msb_So far, US, UK, and Sweden don't care and will arrest him.  Feb 05 08:29
msb_For giving proof of numerous US war crimes, torture, extra-judicial murders, etc.Feb 05 08:30
msb_Hillary Clinton said that Assange's revelations are "an attack on the interational community".Feb 05 08:35
msb_Of course, she took part in those war crimes herself.Feb 05 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/2/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Ubuntu TabletFeb 05 08:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unikernels https://t.co/qtpzNMt9FSFeb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (etbe.coker.com.au) “When Linux applicationsFeb 05 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 have bugs that are difficult to diagnose”Feb 05 09:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | Unikernels « etbe - Russell CokerFeb 05 09:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 advisory board.” https://t.co/keaNz2BD4rFeb 05 09:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google’s ‘Android N’ Possibly Referenced InFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung’s Galaxy S7 Edge And S Pen RelatedFeb 05 09:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Yesterday, I pushed out version 2.11.18 of theFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Geode XOrg driver. This is the driver used byFeb 05 09:57
TweetTuxMachines                 the OLPC XO-1" https://t.co/hVN5FYreEbFeb 05 09:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Wear gets voice calling and messageFeb 05 09:58
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/695547119604801536Feb 05 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz That was really funny :)) ... but sad cus it's true and people don't realize it until it's too lateFeb 05 10:02
schestowitzSome people already take their phones, with two cameras (front and back), to the toilets. #gchq happy.Feb 05 10:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/695548349982838784Feb 05 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz :)))))Feb 05 10:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/695551094404079616Feb 05 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Brain-damaged file system in the words of His Linusness. https://t.co/PsBPslrseWFeb 05 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The dangers of HFS+ for git repositories https://t.co/3s9osETYVm #apple is rubbish... EXPENSIVE rubbish.Feb 05 10:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The best password manager on AndroidFeb 05 10:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     iPhone vs Android: Almost Half Of iPhone UsersFeb 05 10:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IceCat 38.6.0 release https://t.co/mhBzZMabldFeb 05 10:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rio Design HackfestFeb 05 10:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/695551094404079616Feb 05 10:34
msb_More Assange news:  Sweden wants to interrogate him about two rape accusations, but unlike with 40 other cases, the   prosecutor has refused to come to London to do so, earning a rebuke from the highest Swedish court.Feb 05 10:50
msb_The vote of the UN Panel on arbitrary detention in Assange's favor was 3 to 1 -- very unusual that it was not unanimous.  The dissenter was from ...... Ukraine!Feb 05 10:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/695560471232057344Feb 05 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sainsburys: @schestowitz I'd like to reassure you we're not reducing the number of colleagues in our stores as a result of installing...1/3Feb 05 10:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/695560480971190272Feb 05 10:54
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/695560489309499393Feb 05 10:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 7: what we want to seeFeb 05 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung’s TV Plus service will soon hit TizenFeb 05 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 TVs in South East Asia https://t.co/69g34mpqxxFeb 05 10:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung's TV Plus service will soon hit Tizen TVs in South East Asia - Tizen ExpertsFeb 05 10:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IBM Supports Linux Foundation's HyperledgerFeb 05 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Blockchain as Industry Standard, PlansFeb 05 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     iPhone vs Android: Almost Half Of iPhone UsersFeb 05 10:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Think Android Phones Are More AdvancedFeb 05 10:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | iPhone vs Android: Almost Half Of iPhone Users Think Android Phones Are More AdvancedFeb 05 10:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IceCat 38.6.0 release https://t.co/cNpHdCngSoFeb 05 11:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SlackEX Released with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 andFeb 05 11:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SlackEX Released with Linux Kernel 4.4.1 and KDE 4.14.3, Based on Slackware 14.2Feb 05 11:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LuninuX OS 15.10 Launches as the WalkingFeb 05 11:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/695563452170027008Feb 05 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: #UN: #Assange should walk free & be compensated for "deprivation of liberty". https://t.co/yWDmbx0LWJ https://t.co/AAV0q5dBzgFeb 05 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk | Julian Assange should be allowed to go free, UN panel finds - BBC NewsFeb 05 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Australians stuck abroad and alleged sex crimes https://t.co/b67OD2PSbV on #assangeFeb 05 11:06
schestowitzBut the money should come from the politicians who are to blame for this scandalFeb 05 11:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CoreOS Launches Docker Rival Rkt 1.0Feb 05 11:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Lite 2.8 Review At A GlanceFeb 05 11:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla officially kills Firefox OS forFeb 05 11:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Updated All-Snap UbuntuFeb 05 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy Images, Urges Users to ReflashFeb 05 11:10
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msb_Assange used to appear at balcony of Ecuadorian embassy, but no longer does because he's afraid of snipers, because multiple US politicians have called for his murder.Feb 05 11:30
msb_Big cheering crowds used to come for his appearances.Feb 05 11:31
msb_He will make a statement in 30 minutes by video.Feb 05 11:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla officially kills Firefox OS forFeb 05 11:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Initiative celebrates anniversary,Feb 05 11:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/40AUXSbsvmFeb 05 11:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Releases Updated All-Snap UbuntuFeb 05 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy Images, Urges Users to ReflashFeb 05 11:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Land with Older NautilusFeb 05 11:39
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r_schestowitzzoobab_:  https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695573902869852160   https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695574344467095552Feb 05 11:47
r_schestowitzIf one wrongly assumes that: 1) more/broader litigation is good. 2) companies only sue, never get sued. #upc logic.Feb 05 11:48
r_schestowitz[11:30] <msb_> Assange used to appear at balcony of Ecuadorian embassy, but no longer does because he's afraid of snipers, because multiple US politicians have called for his murder.Feb 05 11:50
r_schestowitzThey can pull an MLKFeb 05 11:50
r_schestowitzor JFKFeb 05 11:50
r_schestowitzthen blame it on some "castro fan"Feb 05 11:50
zoobab_British police will arrest him, whatever the UN saysFeb 05 11:50
r_schestowitzbut they would serve to show the public what a farce FCO isFeb 05 11:51
zoobab_FCO?Feb 05 11:52
r_schestowitzand it already embarrasses the UK and SwedenFeb 05 11:52
r_schestowitzHe exposed a naked emperorFeb 05 11:52
r_schestowitznations that are client states of Pentagon's "host nation"Feb 05 11:52
msb_We are in an interesting new era now, thanks to the Internet.  The most  powerful fascist nation in the world, the US, can no longer get away with its murderous lies and activities.  They are exposed and discussed all over the Net.Feb 05 11:53
msb_Billions of people can now find the truth, and the evidence for it, simply by pointing their browsers to the right websites.Feb 05 11:56
msb_Dear God, we may yet survive!Feb 05 11:57
msb_Assange should be appearing live on RT, and maybe other news channels, in about 2 minutes.Feb 05 11:58
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MinceR"God"Feb 05 12:01
MinceRwhat about the less powerful fascist nations?Feb 05 12:01
MinceRis it OK to be fascist for those who are not the most powerful?Feb 05 12:02
msb_MinceR: Go find someone else to misrepresent and pick a fight with.  I'm not going to bite.Feb 05 12:12
MinceRinterestingFeb 05 12:13
MinceRmentioning that there are other fascist "nation"s is "picking a fight"Feb 05 12:13
MinceRit's crimethinkFeb 05 12:13
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zoobab_http://www.lesoir.be/1112729/article/actualite/monde/2016-02-05/julian-assange-detenu-arbitrairement-selon-l-onuFeb 05 12:29
zoobab_The UN opinion is non legally bindingFeb 05 12:30
zoobab_so they will arrest him if he leaves the emabssyFeb 05 12:30
msb_Assange and his lawyers said that since the UK and Sweden are signatories to the treaties that set up the UN and its agencies, the finding of this panel _are_ legally binding.Feb 05 12:38
MinceRi wonder if anyone will enforce themFeb 05 12:39
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msb_The great John Pilger said that Assange was guilty of a crime, which is punishable by death:  telling people how the world is actually secretly run.Feb 05 12:43
msb_No one can enforce anything on the US, due to its huge military power.  All people can do is tell the truth about it over and over again, until the vast majority of the world's people detest the US, and perhaps refuse to trade with it.Feb 05 12:46
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012Feb 05 18:49
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/695611768991825920Feb 05 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: WordPress Infections Leading to TeslaCrypt Ransomware @schestowitz https://t.co/VeQv2T8fZnFeb 05 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> threatpost.com | WordPress Compromises Lead to Teslacrypt Ransoware | Threatpost | The first stop for security newsFeb 05 18:53
MinceRhttp://archive.is/YqLdiFeb 05 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The Talos Secure Workstation Is A High-Performance Libre System - PhoronixFeb 05 18:53
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/695626955073458177Feb 05 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Amen to this article: "6 Benefits of Using Open Source Software in Government @philshapiro @charlie3 @schestowitz https://t.co/Nt5Qk67nQtFeb 05 18:56
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r_schestowitzMinceR: why archive link?Feb 05 18:57
r_schestowitzzoobab_: https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695589897999097856  https://twitter.com/nipclaw/status/695591094462058498Feb 05 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nipclaw: @schestowitz yes it will. The costs of litigation will be so much less than in this country. It will also be easier to obtain IP insurance.Feb 05 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nipclaw: @The_Code_Shirts @Moz @Start_up_Mentor see my response to @schestowitz. Fragmentation of Europe is an enormous barrier to innovation in EU.Feb 05 18:58
r_schestowitzzoobab_: waste of time talking to lawyers directlyFeb 05 18:58
r_schestowitznot the right audienceFeb 05 18:58
MinceRbecause i don't support moronix's clickbait/(free software)-hostile waysFeb 05 18:58
r_schestowitzI will write about UPC later, using some of your links which you selectedFeb 05 18:58
r_schestowitzMinceR: i cFeb 05 18:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ximoberna/status/695631564479266817Feb 05 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ximoberna: Open Source or Open Architecture? Big Data Needs Both https://t.co/jad67kxcoF via @schestowitzFeb 05 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Open Source or Open Architecture? Big Data Needs Both | Data Center Knowledge - Linkis.comFeb 05 18:59
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/695670022237245440Feb 05 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Coming home to find wolves in your home: "Crypto flaw so glaring it may be intentional backdoor" https://t.co/WP0ZQKGufH @schestowitzFeb 05 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Crypto flaw was so glaring it may be intentional eavesdropping backdoor | Ars TechnicaFeb 05 18:59
MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160203/09004533506/proposed-hungarian-law-would-allow-government-to-suspend-key-human-rights-whenever-there-is-terror-threat-situation.shtmlFeb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Proposed Hungarian Law Would Allow Government To Suspend Key Human Rights Whenever There Is A 'Terror Threat Situation' | TechdirtFeb 05 19:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671445579998896128   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671446437327171585   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671446870443597825Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Been travelling all day and only just catching up with these very serious allegations levelled against us.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Roy's claims relate to this article: https://t.co/TjjD6oxMfaFeb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.iam-media.com | Pilot project with Microsoft and other big filers will directly help SMEs, not hinder them, says EPO - Blog - Intellectual Asset Management (IAM) - Maximising IP Value for BusinessFeb 05 19:12
MinceRputin's apprentice learned so much!Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz The article is basxed on an interview with an EPO spokesman who responds to allegations that had been made by Roy.Feb 05 19:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447092506861568   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447342785159169   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447528261464064Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Because of the documents Roy produced we thought the allegations had legs, so approached the EPO to get a responseFeb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz As part of the article we linked to the documents that Roy had already published to support his case.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We did not identify Roy as the source of those documents, neither did we identify who Roy had received them fromFeb 05 19:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671447879865733120   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448037722583040   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448168706494469Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We do not know who he received them from. He is our source for them and has chosen to identify himself as such.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Following publication of the story, at no stage did Roy contact us to protest we had compromised his source.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Neither did Roy contact us to ask that we remove the links we had provided.Feb 05 19:12
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448430334623744   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671448856668844032   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671449579976572928Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz So, we compromised no-one. We would never do that. We never have. Multiple sources would testify to that.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We directly challenge Roy to name one source who has been compromised by IAM.Feb 05 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Furthermore, we had no advanced knowledge of any EPO plans to threaten him with legal action.Feb 05 19:12
MinceRthough to be fair, he also learned much from hungary's earlier muscovite dictatorsFeb 05 19:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671450050036371456   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671450499221180417   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671450733464670209   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671451262701977600 Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz In fact, when we learned of the legal action we Tweeted that the EPO was unwise to have done it.Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We have nothing against TechRights and support its right to cover issues in the way it sees fit.Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We just do not see things in the way that TechRights does, even though we have often criticised EPO management.Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz If Roy does not trust us, he is best ignoring us. We regret he feels he needs to question our integrity.Feb 05 19:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671451552645795841   https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671452502185943040  https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/671452502185943040Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz We think he should try to accept there are different ways to see the world, including the current EPO situation.Feb 05 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz Hope this helps. We won't get into a back & forth, so you can either accept we are genuine or not. Joff WildFeb 05 19:13
MinceR>Restrictions on travel to and residence in certain areas of the country (including the possibility of forced relocation or evacuation, or restrictions on travel within the country) Feb 05 19:13
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/695532890399121408  Feb 05 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @ioerror @jerezim Let's bet the UK will ignore that one.Feb 05 19:15
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/695535069969195008Feb 05 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @yanisvaroufakis @DiEM_25 Council of Ministers should be scraped, the executive should not become the legislator, Montesquieu.Feb 05 19:15
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sebsebsebMinceR: schestowitz_log_ r_schestowitz` cubelog XFaCE nj3ma cubelog cubexyz Sosumi pingFeb 05 20:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Make a $40 Linux or Android PC with this tiny new Raspberry Pi 2 rival | PCWorldFeb 05 20:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MaruOS claims to turn your Android phone into a Linux desktop | Tux MachinesFeb 05 20:38
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cubexyzI just checked the changelog of slackware-currentFeb 05 20:49
cubexyzno mention at all of systemdFeb 05 20:49
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cubexyzso I think it's safe to say slackware 14.2 will not have systemdFeb 05 20:49
cubexyzand 32-bit will be supported, so far so goodFeb 05 20:50
MinceRi hope they won't force stutter^W"pulse"audio on users eitherFeb 05 20:52
cubexyzit supports ALSAFeb 05 20:53
cubexyzthere is some pulseaudio stuff but you should be able to avoid that without too much troubleFeb 05 20:54
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cubexyzI'll probably put slackware 14.2 on one machineFeb 05 20:54
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r_schestowitzMinceR: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160203/09004533506/proposed-hungarian-law-would-allow-government-to-suspend-key-human-rights-whenever-there-is-terror-threat-situation.shtmlFeb 05 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Proposed Hungarian Law Would Allow Government To Suspend Key Human Rights Whenever There Is A 'Terror Threat Situation' | TechdirtFeb 05 21:04
r_schestowitzdid you see it?Feb 05 21:04
MinceRyeahFeb 05 21:04
MinceRlinked it here tooFeb 05 21:04
XRevan86- Terror against humans rights? Fast, suspend human rights! Phew, now they are safe.Feb 05 21:05
r_schestowitzhttps://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur27/3359/2016/en/Feb 05 21:06
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r_schestowitzXRevan86: terror goals accomplishedFeb 05 21:07
MinceRhungarians don't care about human rightsFeb 05 21:11
XRevan86but human rights care about hungariansFeb 05 21:14
XRevan86That was cheesy but I couldn't resist :).Feb 05 21:14
MinceR:)Feb 05 21:15
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/695715928965832708Feb 05 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: or a corporate department https://t.co/BtkjCXEMzHFeb 05 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US traps in #london https://t.co/JUVYQbcYKp not sure which country I even live in anymore. #uk like a colony.Feb 05 21:17
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msb_"<MinceR> hungarians don't care about human rights"  All the Hungarians I know are evil rotten lying bastards.  Of course I only know one...Feb 05 22:01
MinceRyou'd like the others more, they tend to support your favorite living dictator and his faithful apprenticeFeb 05 22:02
MinceRand they tend to be as much against human rights as you areFeb 05 22:02
msb_syllogism:  1. "hungarians don't care about human rights" 2. MinceR is hungarian 3. Therefore, MinceR doesn't care about human rights.  That explains a lot.Feb 05 22:05
msb_And without any input from me.Feb 05 22:06
MinceRaccording to the hungarian government, i am not hungarianFeb 05 22:06
msb_In case anyone reading this doesn't know that MinceR is a lying piece of shit:  A. I do not favor any dictator  B. I am not against human rightsFeb 05 22:07
MinceRyeah, any regular reader can tell that msb_ keeps supporting dictators loudly while claiming he doesn't support themFeb 05 22:08
msb_Name one, you lying piece of shit.Feb 05 22:09
MinceRi've named plenty of them and you ignored them every time, you fascist piece of lying shit.Feb 05 22:09
msb_IOW, you can't.Feb 05 22:10
msb_And you don't know what "fascist" means.Feb 05 22:10
MinceRsomeone who supports fascism, like msb_ Feb 05 22:12
msb_That's tautological, shit-for-brains.Feb 05 22:12
MinceRit's not tautological, you brainless savage.Feb 05 22:12
MinceRperhaps they didn't teach you the difference between the letters 't' and 'm', you fascist shitpig?Feb 05 22:13
msb_Then what does "fascism" mean?Feb 05 22:19
MinceRextreme authoritarianism, usually with particular tropes and symbols includedFeb 05 22:19
msb_WrongFeb 05 22:24
MinceRright, fascists with hammer and sickle are "not fascist"Feb 05 22:24
MinceR"see, we're totally different from those guys!"Feb 05 22:24
msb_"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito MussoliniFeb 05 22:25
MinceRlike the merger of putler's power and the corporations owned by the oligarchs he controls?Feb 05 22:26
MinceRor like the merger of the state party's power and the power of the corporations owned by the state?Feb 05 22:26
msb_Corporations are not owned by the state.  They are owned by (groups of) wealthy individuals.Feb 05 22:27
MinceRin one the systems you idolized openly (which called itself "socialist", "communist" and other things), the corporations were indeed owned by the stateFeb 05 22:28
MinceRit's funny you're trying to deny that tooFeb 05 22:28
msb_First, you lying piece of shit, I don't idolize anything.Feb 05 22:29
MinceRfirst, you fascist lying piece of shit, claiming you don't idolize the things you rave about every day isn't fooling anybody.Feb 05 22:30
msb_I don't rave about anything, shit-pig.Feb 05 22:31
MinceRyou lie about almost everything, you fascist subhumanFeb 05 22:32
msb_"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito MussoliniFeb 05 22:33
msb_You have always equated fascism with authoritarianism.  And since you never learn anything, you probably always will.Feb 05 22:35
MinceRi see you only care about what your idol mussolini saysFeb 05 22:37
msb_ mussolini is not my idol, you lying sack of shit.Feb 05 22:38
MinceRalso, i've already explained the merger of state and corporate power, you write-only retarded fascist barbarian.Feb 05 22:40
msb_But you said above "corporations owned by the state", which is nonsense.Feb 05 22:42
MinceRtell that to your stalinist idolsFeb 05 22:43
MinceRthe ones that are still alive, anywayFeb 05 22:43
cubexyzin Canada we have Crown Corporations: the CBC, Canada Post and Via RailFeb 05 22:44
msb_Apparently you are unable to make an argument without attributing things to me that are utterly false.Feb 05 22:44
cubexyzI think Hungry has the MOL Group which is the same ideaFeb 05 22:44
cubexyzHungaryFeb 05 22:44
MinceRin hungary, the "socialists"/"communists"/etc. kept all corporations in state ownership for most of their reignFeb 05 22:44
MinceRthey loosened that policy somewhat near the end, probably because they started to realize that they destroyed the economy.Feb 05 22:45
cubexyzthe United States has Government-sponsored enterprises like Fannie MaeFeb 05 22:45
msb_"A corporation is a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.>Feb 05 22:45
msb_MinceR: If the USSR was fascist, why did fascist Hitler attack it?  Why was Hitler paid by wealthy Americans to attack it?Feb 05 22:47
MinceRmsb_: guess what, dictators are rarely controlled by ideologyFeb 05 22:47
MinceRhitler attacked the ussr because he wanted to take over its resources, iircFeb 05 22:47
XRevan86Hitler totally believes in his ideology.Feb 05 22:48
XRevan86believed*Feb 05 22:48
MinceRby your "logic" i could just as well attack if the ussr wasn't fascist, why was the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact signedFeb 05 22:48
MinceRs/attack/ask/Feb 05 22:48
msb_Why was Hitler paid by wealthy Americans to attack the USSR?Feb 05 22:49
MinceRbecause those wealthy americans believed in hitler's ideologyFeb 05 22:50
MinceRiirc henry ford and thomas j. watson were (at least initially) openly naziFeb 05 22:50
msb_What aspects of hitler's ideology did the wealthy americans believe in?Feb 05 22:51
MinceRthat may have depended on which wealthy american we're talking about, but i haven't read any in-depth treatment of this questionFeb 05 22:52
msb_IOW, you have no idea.Feb 05 22:53
MinceRgo fuck yourself.Feb 05 22:53
msb_go kill yourselfFeb 05 22:53
MinceRgo hang yourself, you fascist piece of shit.Feb 05 22:53
msb_wealthy americans paid Hitler to kill off socialists in Russia and Europe, because socialism was becoming popular, and the wealthy knew that if it caught on, their enormous profits would vanish, going instead to workers.Feb 05 22:55
MinceRwell, enormous profits did vanish, as the ussr destroyed its own economy and that of the eastern blocFeb 05 22:56
MinceRand the standards of living plummetedFeb 05 22:56
MinceRand that region still hasn't recoveredFeb 05 22:56
MinceRwell, at least some parts of it anywayFeb 05 22:57
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msb_In your robotic compulsion to attack socialism, you ignored the reason wealthy americans paid hitler to kill off socialists.Feb 05 22:59
MinceRin your braindead compulsion to support everything that calls itself "socialist" or "communist" or "people's democracy", you ignored the facts and fabricated a tale about an attack against "socialism"/etc.Feb 05 23:00
MinceReven though most people in power don't give two shits about ideology, what they care about is powerFeb 05 23:00
cubexyzsome socialism is good thoughFeb 05 23:02
cubexyze.g. health care programsFeb 05 23:03
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_NazisFeb 05 23:03
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cubexyzLinux is pretty much socialismFeb 05 23:04
cubexyzeveryone sharesFeb 05 23:04
msb_yepFeb 05 23:04
MinceRas discussed earlier, "socialism" is pretty much devoid of meaning alreadyFeb 05 23:05
MinceR"Thus, if we are to judge views by their resemblance to Russian Communism, it is the software owners who are the Communists." -- rms, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.en.htmlFeb 05 23:06
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MinceRsee also: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/luispo-rms-interview.en.htmlFeb 05 23:07
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cubexyzMicrosoft is a good example of capitalism going too farFeb 05 23:08
MinceR"Thanks to Mr. Gates, we now know that an open Internet with protocols anyone can implement is communism; it was set up by that famous communist agent, the US Department of Defense." -- rms, https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_StallmanFeb 05 23:08
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cubexyzMinceR, yes :)Feb 05 23:09
cubexyzthat's one of my favourite quotesFeb 05 23:09
MinceRi can't tell if it is, since "capitalism" is yet another essentially meaningless termFeb 05 23:09
MinceRin its pre-marx sense, everyone who owns capital is a "capitalist", including workers under anarcho-communismFeb 05 23:09
cubexyzright, it's a bit vagueFeb 05 23:09
msb_So MinceR, you wrongly equate fascism with authoritarianism, and you say that socialism is meaningless.  This guarantees that you will be unable to understand either.Feb 05 23:10
MinceRand marx's theory is a confused fever dream, so it's meaninglessFeb 05 23:10
cubexyzand some words do change meaning over timeFeb 05 23:10
MinceRmsb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_%28insult%29Feb 05 23:10
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msb_Socialism is an economic system in which workers receive, as wages, most of the value of the goods and services they produce.Feb 05 23:11
cubexyzcall it "control of the means of production" if you preferFeb 05 23:11
MinceRpeople often call market economy "capitalism", but microsoft is not an extreme of thatFeb 05 23:11
MinceRm$ has always tried to make the market as unfree as they couldFeb 05 23:11
cubexyzM$ tried to control everythingFeb 05 23:12
MinceRmsb_: except when you call stalinist systems "socialist"?Feb 05 23:12
msb_MinceR: the wiki section you just cited says that fascism does _not_ mean authoritarianism.Feb 05 23:12
MinceRmsb_: learn how to read and retry. we'll wait.Feb 05 23:12
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MinceRmsb_: also learn english, if you have not done so yet.Feb 05 23:13
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msb_You always revert to personal attacks when you know you are wrong.Feb 05 23:13
MinceRof course, your attempts to assign the same meaning to all words may have irreversibly damaged your language-processing abilities...Feb 05 23:13
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MinceRmsb_: i always let you start with the personal attacks, as i did today.Feb 05 23:14
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cubexyzMicrosoft seems Fascist to meFeb 05 23:14
cubexyzmaybe there's a better word for it, I don't knowFeb 05 23:14
cubexyz"One Microsoft Way"Feb 05 23:15
MinceRindeedFeb 05 23:15
MinceROne Platform, One Drive, One FuhrerFeb 05 23:15
MinceRor something like thatFeb 05 23:16
msb_Microsoft is not able to use physical (state) force to increase its corporate power.  Just large-scale lying and cheating.  Actual fascism includes the use of force.Feb 05 23:17
MinceRare you sure?Feb 05 23:17
cubexyzthere's Google DriveFeb 05 23:18
MinceRlast time i checked, they had the law enforcement powers of several sovereign states at their disposalFeb 05 23:18
cubexyzI don't really use it thoughFeb 05 23:18
MinceRcubexyz: yeah, but m$ called theirs "OneDrive" or something like thatFeb 05 23:18
cubexyzyesFeb 05 23:18
cubexyzpaying a subscription to Microsoft is really beyond the paleFeb 05 23:19
msb_But no one is forced to do it.Feb 05 23:19
MinceRno one who is immune to attacks by the usian police forces, for example, that is.Feb 05 23:20
MinceRor other local police forcesFeb 05 23:20
MinceRand if that's not enough, there's the military...Feb 05 23:20
cubexyzavoiding all microsoft technology is not easyFeb 05 23:21
MinceRand it's getting harderFeb 05 23:21
cubexyzwalk into any computer store and you'll see tons of win10 machinesFeb 05 23:21
MinceRthe usa and the eu have ceased to enforce any antitrust regulation against m$Feb 05 23:21
MinceRintel ganged up with m$ to force winblows on people foolish enough to buy uefi appliances (which are marketed as "computers")Feb 05 23:22
msb_Unless those machines reach into your pocket and pull out your money, you are not being forced.Feb 05 23:22
MinceRinterestingFeb 05 23:22
MinceRmsb_: how does taxation work?Feb 05 23:22
msb_Microsoft cannot levy taxes.Feb 05 23:23
MinceRand while we're on the topic, m$ managed to get the hungarian government to hand over gigantic amount of tax money for pretty much nothingFeb 05 23:23
MinceRi have no doubt that they've done this with other governments as wellFeb 05 23:23
cubexyzdidn't Ballmer get pelted with eggs in Hungary?Feb 05 23:23
MinceRmsb_: you should ask their OEMs about that.Feb 05 23:23
cubexyzI seem to remember thatFeb 05 23:23
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MinceRcubexyz: he did, for the above issueFeb 05 23:23
MinceRof course it didn't do muchFeb 05 23:24
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cubexyzthe M$ Tax is real, it's well documentedFeb 05 23:24
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cubexyzunless you build a white-box PC yourself, or buy a chromebook, or a used computerFeb 05 23:24
cubexyznot impossible to avoid, but difficultFeb 05 23:24
MinceRbuilding a mobile white-box PC is far from trivialFeb 05 23:24
MinceR(as in, i've never seen the parts necessary marketed to end-users)Feb 05 23:25
cubexyzpitop seems like one wayFeb 05 23:25
MinceRwhich is a relatively recent developmentFeb 05 23:25
MinceRand they don't have much of a distribution network, afaictFeb 05 23:25
MinceRand the pi still has no power management or suspend, afaikFeb 05 23:25
MinceRand of course tablets and phones are even worseFeb 05 23:25
cubexyzstill in pre-order it looks likeFeb 05 23:26
MinceRnaturally, that's where consumption is movingFeb 05 23:26
msb_Do mfrs of pcs with no os have to pay for a copy of windows?Feb 05 23:27
cubexyznoFeb 05 23:27
cubexyzthat changed a while agoFeb 05 23:27
msb_So, no ms tax.Feb 05 23:27
cubexyzI can't buy a no OS PC locallyFeb 05 23:28
MinceRso now they merely get to pay a far higher price on the devices that ship with winblowsFeb 05 23:28
cubexyzonline, yesFeb 05 23:28
MinceRwhich many customers are still locked intoFeb 05 23:28
MinceRvia applications and closed formatsFeb 05 23:28
msb_Can't you buy the parts and assemble it yourself?Feb 05 23:29
MinceRand of course the price hikes even if they do something lesser to displease their m$ overlords, such as failing to advertise m$ products prominently enough on their websiteFeb 05 23:29
MinceRmsb_: i can do that with a desktop pc, but not with more mobile computers, such as laptops.Feb 05 23:29
cubexyzthere's novena and pitopFeb 05 23:29
MinceRand indeed, all my desktop pcs were custom-built so farFeb 05 23:29
MinceRlast time i checked, novena and most of its components were already out of productionFeb 05 23:30
MinceRpitop is in preorderFeb 05 23:30
MinceRalso, you can't really use most novenas in your lap because there's no place for a keyboardFeb 05 23:30
cubexyzI see a lot of used laptops so I repurpose those and remove the windows stickersFeb 05 23:30
MinceRthere was a very limited number (maybe just one?) of the custom case with the traditional clamshell arrangementFeb 05 23:31
MinceRwhat will you do when you need an upgrade and all the used laptops are locked into winblows using uefi?Feb 05 23:31
cubexyzwell a lot of laptops overheatFeb 05 23:31
cubexyzthat's why I use older tech sometimesFeb 05 23:31
cubexyzeven the P3 can get quite warm in a laptopFeb 05 23:31
cubexyzbut chromebook was pretty good heat-wiseFeb 05 23:32
MinceRwhat if the state of the art advances so much that using sufficiently powerful cryptography is no longer feasible on those older models?Feb 05 23:32
cubexyzsome use falls into the "classic computing" category Feb 05 23:32
MinceRyeah, maybe i'll end up moving to chromebooks once they get more powerful than the last general-purpose x86 non-chromebook laptopsFeb 05 23:33
cubexyzbut a P3 can do web browsing and online banking no problemFeb 05 23:33
MinceRi wouldn't dream of doing web browsing on a p3Feb 05 23:33
MinceRweb browsing is one of the most intensive tasks nowadays, thanks to the "modern" webFeb 05 23:33
cubexyznoscript helps a lotFeb 05 23:33
MinceRif the site is willing to work without javascriptsFeb 05 23:33
MinceRs/ts/t/Feb 05 23:33
cubexyzyou have fine-grained control to enable _some_ javascriptFeb 05 23:34
MinceRsites that don't work at all without it are spreading (like google's blogger)Feb 05 23:34
MinceRand even the support for some javascript bloats the browser a lot and adds plenty of opportunities for security holesFeb 05 23:34
cubexyzok, I guess I'm an outlier on the web browsing thenFeb 05 23:34
cubexyzI've actually put a lot of effort into thisFeb 05 23:34
MinceRit's sad how IT has gone from relatively sane principles to "hey, we'll just download and run random code from whenever on the clients and it's fine because sandboxes are guaranteed to be free of bugs, right?"Feb 05 23:35
MinceRit's now "cool" to cover the page with a loading screen for no good reason or even to reimplement the whole browser in javascriptFeb 05 23:36
cubexyzthere's various tiers of internetFeb 05 23:36
msb_cubexyz: Can you buy a no-OS laptop by mail?Feb 05 23:36
cubexyzI probably canFeb 05 23:37
cubexyznothing comes to mind immediatelyFeb 05 23:37
MinceRlast time i could buy a no-os laptop it was only offered by dHell and turned out to be a piece of industrial waste with no warrantyFeb 05 23:37
cubexyznewegg.ca has somethingFeb 05 23:37
cubexyzmostly I acquire used stuff and get it working againFeb 05 23:38
cubexyzhere's one: refurb HP laptop probook 6460B intel core i5 with 4 GB of ramFeb 05 23:39
cubexyz$289Feb 05 23:39
MinceR"Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly. … if the users chooses this proprietary software package, he then falls into this monopoly for support … the only way to escape from monopoly is to escape fromFeb 05 23:39
cubexyz$9.99 for shippingFeb 05 23:39
MinceRproprietary software, and that is what the free software movement is all about. We want you to escape and our work is to help you escape. We hope you will escape to the free world. The free world is the new continent in cyberspace that we have built so we can live here in freedom. It's impossible to live in freedom in the oldFeb 05 23:39
MinceRworld of cyberspace, where every program has its feudal lord that bullies and mistreats the users. So, to live in freedom we have to build a new continent. Because this is a virtual continent, it has room for everyone, and there are no immigration restrictions. And because there were never indigenous peoples in cyberspace,Feb 05 23:40
MinceRthere is also no issue of taking away their land. So everyone is welcome in the free world, come to the free world, live with us in freedom. The free software movement aims for the liberation of cyberspace and everyone in it." -- https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_StallmanFeb 05 23:40
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cubexyzI want source code so I wrote this file:Feb 05 23:40
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/os-with-source-code.txtFeb 05 23:40
cubexyzanother one:Feb 05 23:42
cubexyzRefurb Dell M65 15.4" intel core duo $189Feb 05 23:42
cubexyzI could probably find one even cheaper than thatFeb 05 23:42
MinceRit's a dHell, so it's garbage hardware with no warrantyFeb 05 23:43
cubexyzrefurb chromebook: $179Feb 05 23:43
cubexyzone year replacement is offeredFeb 05 23:43
cubexyzof course I get free broken ones quite oftenFeb 05 23:44
MinceRreplacement with another instance of the same model with the same design flawsFeb 05 23:44
MinceRpossibly with the same hw issues already presentFeb 05 23:44
MinceRlike the "replacement" GPU in my dHell craptopFeb 05 23:44
cubexyzyes, but I fix computers a lot anyways :)Feb 05 23:44
MinceRoh, and most likely without any idea of when or if ever they'll have the replacement part you needFeb 05 23:44
MinceRdHell is a pretty good case study of how not to do computer manufacturing and supportFeb 05 23:45
cubexyzeverthing needs maintainance at some pointFeb 05 23:46
cubexyzI look at repairability... how difficult is it to get parts, how hard is it to take apartFeb 05 23:47
cubexyzis the RTC/battery glued in?Feb 05 23:48
cubexyzactually this is an old Dell running OpenBSD :)Feb 05 23:49
cubexyzall parts are original, except for the hard drive and memoryFeb 05 23:49
cubexyz2001 eraFeb 05 23:50
cubexyzmotherboards with tantalum capacitors and high quality power supplies + UPS will last a long timeFeb 05 23:57
cubexyzdon't recall if Dell used tantalum capsFeb 05 23:58
cubexyzI'm sure Dell did make some crappy computersFeb 06 00:00
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XFaCE[20:50:58]<oiaohm> Microsoft and NSA was really proven 1999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEYFeb 06 02:01
XFaCEyeah, but because we didn't have a leak saying outright that this is a backdoor, it was just "crazy talk"Feb 06 02:02
XFaCEeven now, with the leaks and the obvious fact that Windows is defective by design, still apathyFeb 06 02:02
MinceRand due to religious dogma and cognitive dissonance, it's still just "crazy talk"Feb 06 02:02
cubexyzpeople are rather lazyFeb 06 02:02
XFaCEoiaohm: When GM was revealed to make defective products out of negligence, they paid for itFeb 06 02:03
MinceRit seems most humans won't even attempt to think even if their life depended on itFeb 06 02:03
cubexyzwell, you can't copy an audio cdFeb 06 02:03
MinceRi guess GM's competition has pull at the m$ governmentFeb 06 02:03
MinceRm$'s competition doesn'tFeb 06 02:03
cubexyzthat's 100% proven, so you know there's DRM stuff in there at the very leastFeb 06 02:03
XFaCEyea, exactly MinceR Feb 06 02:04
XFaCEif Microsoft was held to the same standard as GM (which is still not that high), they would be fuckedFeb 06 02:04
oiaohmhttps://www.brianchristner.io/docker-is-moving-to-alpine-linux/  this might be hope for those who hate systemd.   http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux_Init_System its openrcFeb 06 02:05
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cubexyzI remember watching this one windows computer late one nightFeb 06 02:05
cubexyzit was running nothing... but the hard drive light was blinking a lotFeb 06 02:05
MinceRmaybe docker realized ratcrap is 1) their competition and 2) playing from m$'s bookFeb 06 02:05
MinceRso if they want to survive, they have to leave cancerd ASAPFeb 06 02:06
oiaohmMinceR: nspawn in systemd is a direct form of competitor to docker.Feb 06 02:06
MinceRexactlyFeb 06 02:07
cubexyzthe consumer is just a pawn, a serfFeb 06 02:07
oiaohmIssue with alphine is usage of musl libcFeb 06 02:08
cubexyzwhat is the problem with musl?Feb 06 02:09
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cubexyzhttp://www.etalabs.net/compare_libcs.htmlFeb 06 02:10
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oiaohmcubexyz: Lot of programs are tested with gnu libc and expect gnu libc behavour.Feb 06 02:10
MinceRyou can have multiple libc-s installedFeb 06 02:11
MinceRyou can link against glibc, even statically if you want toFeb 06 02:11
MinceRconsider bedrock linux :>Feb 06 02:11
MinceRbedrock itself links against musl, most strata (distros) link against glibcFeb 06 02:11
cubexyzin a few ways musl libc is betterFeb 06 02:12
MinceRindeedFeb 06 02:12
cubexyzsmallest static glibc program is 662k??Feb 06 02:15
oiaohmcubexyz: few ways musl is better is true but its little things that start ruining you day.  POSIX localedef being missing comes a problem.Feb 06 02:15
oiaohmglibc is truly not light it contains a lot of extras that you truly question if a libc should contain them.Feb 06 02:16
oiaohmglibc shares memory with other glibc in the system so when you do a PID look up and the like it does not have to go to kernel every single time.Feb 06 02:17
cubexyzwow, hello world is 579,371 bytes with -staticFeb 06 02:17
oiaohmYou have linked on a huge stack of lets share crap.Feb 06 02:18
cubexyzwe used static for some gamesFeb 06 02:18
cubexyznot that I would have tried musl for that, but maybe for other things I couldFeb 06 02:19
oiaohmFound out about the glibc sharing PID look up information when cgroup namespace with PID was first implemented here was the Linux kernel reporting correctly remapped PID but for some reason glibc inside and out side the cgoup was reporting confusing results.Feb 06 02:20
cubexyzok, musl-gcc hello world size: 9,121 bytesFeb 06 02:20
cubexyza huge differenceFeb 06 02:20
MinceRoiaohm: why is missing localedef a problem?Feb 06 02:21
MinceRit seems to be for custom locales onlyFeb 06 02:21
cubexyzI think musl still uses gcc, that's why there's musl-gccFeb 06 02:22
MinceReven if you can build musl-using programs with other compilers, most users would probably use gccFeb 06 02:22
cubexyzmusl-gcc is what I'm using to test atmFeb 06 02:23
cubexyzwhat do you know, I'm wrong about the game stuffFeb 06 02:25
cubexyzdynamically linkedFeb 06 02:25
cubexyzI'm even using the dynamically linked Heroes3Feb 06 02:25
oiaohmMinceR: you want to abuse of your translation engine for locale in test cases you need localedef.  Lot of complains about gconf not being conforming at times is that it support broken legacy modes some applications expect.Feb 06 02:26
MinceRicFeb 06 02:26
oiaohmMinceR: basically a QA thing is missing.Feb 06 02:27
MinceRperhaps i can get away with testing that aspect of my code with glibcFeb 06 02:27
oiaohmmusl is good for making a libc that follows standard.   glibc is good for being kitchen sink include ways to emulate how a lot of libc broke standard so able to run some old poorly written source.Feb 06 02:29
oiaohmglibc also includes some peformance hacks I call scary.   Like sharing caching of particular syscalls.Feb 06 02:30
oiaohmYes due to musl not having caching some applications can be many times slower on musl than glibc.Feb 06 02:30
cubexyzthat's a bit vague oiaohm Feb 06 02:43
cubexyza specific example would be usefulFeb 06 02:43
cubexyzI've heard musl being about "20% slower" Feb 06 02:45
cubexyzalpine uses musl for everything or..?Feb 06 02:48
cubexyzbuilding firefox would be a good testFeb 06 02:48
cubexyzalpine linux looks interesting...Feb 06 02:49
oiaohmcubexyz: http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/getpid_caching.html  Its stuff like this.Feb 06 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yarchive.net | getpid() caching (Linus Torvalds)Feb 06 02:49
oiaohmYes it makes glibc fast in some cases but it also causes some insanity in other cases.Feb 06 02:50
cubexyzthat case seems more like a deficiencyFeb 06 02:51
oiaohmMost of them are.Feb 06 02:52
oiaohmcaching syscalls creates race conditions from hell.Feb 06 02:53
oiaohmOk might make your program run faster but at times you will pay a huge price.Feb 06 02:53
oiaohmcubexyz: note that as 2004 where Linus said cache getpid is bad.   http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5766184/why-are-many-system-calls-getpid-captured-only-once-using-strace   Here is 2011 and glibc is still doing it.Feb 06 02:56
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MinceRgreatFeb 06 02:56
cubexyzoiaohm, does AIX do a better job? does AIX use gcc?Feb 06 02:57
cubexyzhmmm, seems they use the XL C/C++ compilerFeb 06 03:03
cubexyzthey would have to be better to justify their prices Feb 06 03:03
MinceRlolFeb 06 03:05
MinceRlike that was ever justified by anyoneFeb 06 03:05
MinceRi faintly remember some horror story about how AIX does dynamic linkingFeb 06 03:05
MinceRstill can't be as bad as what winblows does instead of dynamic linkingFeb 06 03:06
cubexyzAIX just doesn't seem worth it, but there are differing opinions on the matterFeb 06 03:17
oiaohmcubexyz: http://seriousbirder.com/blogs/aix-shared-and-static-libraries-explained/  MinceR is right AIX dynamic linking is ugly.Feb 06 03:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-seriousbirder.com | AIX shared and static libraries explainedFeb 06 03:25
oiaohmAIX .a could be a static or share library.Feb 06 03:26
cubexyzwell anything can be in an .aFeb 06 03:30
cubexyzit's just an archive fileFeb 06 03:30
cubexyzdoesn't have to be a library file at allFeb 06 03:30
MinceRor it could be anything renamed to have an .a name suffixFeb 06 03:32
MinceR:>Feb 06 03:32
cubexyzthat reminds me, ark let me down yesterdayFeb 06 03:34
cubexyzcouldn't handle rar filesFeb 06 03:34
MinceRwell, i'm not sure if there even is a fully free rar implementationFeb 06 03:34
MinceRor a fully free unrarFeb 06 03:34
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MinceRespecially if you need to handle the latest version of rarFeb 06 03:35
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cubexyzI'm using unrar 5.11 freeware editionFeb 06 03:35
MinceRfreeware, so nonfree :>Feb 06 03:36
cubexyzI build some version on openbsd so I do have source codeFeb 06 03:37
cubexyzhow is it nonfree?Feb 06 03:37
MinceRwell, i have yet to see free software called "freeware"Feb 06 03:38
cubexyzthe license is a bit confusingFeb 06 03:40
cubexyzhe UnRAR sources may be used in any software to handle RAR archives without limitations free of charge, but cannot be used to re-create the RAR compression algorithm, which is proprietary.Feb 06 03:41
MinceRso, a limitation on what you use it forFeb 06 03:41
MinceRtherefore nonfreeFeb 06 03:41
cubexyzso I'm not allowed to make ark handle rar files?Feb 06 03:42
MinceRat least you're not allowed to use the unrar sources to do thatFeb 06 03:43
MinceRthere might be other limitations independent of the unrar sourcesFeb 06 03:44
MinceRlike patentsFeb 06 03:44
cubexyzok, I was wrong about arkFeb 06 03:47
cubexyzit couldn't open rar files with a different extensionFeb 06 03:47
cubexyznot the most graceful of utilitiesFeb 06 03:48
cubexyzand I don't think I have the source for rar, just unrarFeb 06 03:58
cubexyzso you are right, it's not free softwareFeb 06 04:00
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/comparsion-of-various-file-compressors.txtFeb 06 04:01
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/comparison-of-various-file-compressors.txtFeb 06 04:02
cubexyzummm, yeah I don't think I'll make rar's :)Feb 06 04:03
MinceRyeah, i see no reason toFeb 06 04:03
cubexyzis zip free software?Feb 06 04:04
MinceR050154 <+whales> The milky way as seen from Mars: https://i.imgur.com/2DiC9.jpgFeb 06 04:04
MinceRthere's at least one free zip implementationFeb 06 04:04
cubexyzha, that's cuteFeb 06 04:04
MinceRthere are also free implementations of relatively recent compressors like lzmaFeb 06 04:05
cubexyzok, yes zip is in the public domainFeb 06 04:06
cubexyzlooks like ark actually looks for an rar executableFeb 06 04:15
MinceRis it configurable?Feb 06 04:16
cubexyzin this version you would have to recompile itFeb 06 04:17
cubexyzark seems to be mostly a GUI frontend for command line archiversFeb 06 04:18
MinceRindeedFeb 06 04:18
cubexyzI'll try ark-trinity, maybe that one is betterFeb 06 04:19
cubexyznopeFeb 06 04:21
cubexyzguess I have a new project :-/Feb 06 04:22
MinceRboth fileroller and mc can handle rar files even if only unrar is installed, rar isn'tFeb 06 04:22
MinceRof course they're readonly that wayFeb 06 04:22
cubexyzrightFeb 06 04:22
cubexyzI think ark is the sameFeb 06 04:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meaning of Convergence, Exploit Excludes LinuxFeb 06 11:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Images Are Moving From Ubuntu To AlpineFeb 06 11:57
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OneTHE FARCE GOES ON  A report on Batistelli´s speech in The Hague on February 4  On February 3 the EPO was abuzz with rumors about the withdrawal/dismissal of B. Batistelli, the president who has been trying hard, and managed more and more successfully, to bring this European institution into disrepute. It would have been too beautiful. The spineless Administrative Council´s reaction has so far been, in the most fortunate cases, to Feb 06 13:40
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OneHi! I´m trying to send that speech report.Feb 06 19:22
OneTHE FARCE GOES ON  A report on Batistelli´s speech in The Hague on February 4  On February 3 the EPO was abuzz with rumors about the withdrawal/dismissal of B. Batistelli, the president who has been trying hard, and managed more and more successfully, to bring this European institution into disrepute. It would have been too beautiful. The spineless Administrative Council´s reaction has so far been, in the most fortunate cases, to Feb 06 19:22
OneHowever, it seems that only a limited number of lines can be sentFeb 06 19:22
Oneto avoid taking blatantly illegal steps but no firm reaction to his tyrannical decisions.  Batistelli´s response to the AC´s first weak sign of dissent, the recommendation that BB start a dialogue with the staff representation, resultedFeb 06 19:26
Onein the dismissal of two members and the demotion of a third, which amounts to a spit in the faces of the European delegates. Feb 06 19:26
OneThe European press, in its most part preoccupied with more pressing matters and unlikely to shatter the establishment, had slowly started to report on BB´s attack on the examiners´ elected representatives so BB, like any dictator under the siege of external forces, thought a speech would be a great idea in order to bolster his ruleFeb 06 19:27
OneAssad does it, Mugabe still does it, Honecker and Ceausescu did it, so sometimes, but fortunately only sometimes, it works. Feb 06 19:27
OneFuelled by the EUR 800,000 injection into PR a presidential show was organized in The Hague in the old Soviet Union style on February 4. People were hoarded and screened, told to behave, and at 10 o´clock the show began. Feb 06 19:28
OneUplifting music accompanied the images of the EPO and after a short introduction by a continuously smiling moderator with French-accented English which mistook the event for the Eurovision contest the president took the pulpit.Feb 06 19:28
OnePages of positive statistics started rolling on the huge background screen while the president informed the audience that never had the EPO been more successful. Budget, social situation, unitary patent were all mentioned. Feb 06 19:28
OneIn particular the low fees achieved by the negotiating skills of the president against the will of several delegations were mentioned (one can ask why were´t the patent fees lowered but raised when the EPO enjoyed such a great year, but that would spoil the festive atmosphere).Feb 06 19:29
OneA small concession was surprisingly offered, a year of review and assessment - "digéstion", in the words of BB, which means that the process of reducing the EPO pensions will only start next year. Presented were also the "orientations for the future": financial perspectives, social review, occupational and safety assessment, review of investigation guidelines (whatever this may mean) and ... renewed social dialogue (probably after Feb 06 19:30
OnePO in The Hague which are now only suspended).Feb 06 19:30
OneThe Q&A time was started by a brave but very discoursive examiner whose question, very polite but sufficiently clear in describing the bad atmosphere in the office and the distance between the management and the staff, related to the main present concern, the silencing of the staff.Feb 06 19:30
One“I´m a strong believer in social dialogue. My INPI colleagues will testify to this.” was Batistelli´s reply, engaging thereafter in a tirade against SUEPO which were supposed to have slighted him during the homeworking negotiations several years before. Feb 06 19:31
OneAnd then, suddenly, the mask fell. This man who manages to keep his composure most of the time, lost it. “It is not ILOAT that manages the office. It is childish, childish to write to judges in Geneva.”, he retorted, raising his voice menacingly.Feb 06 19:31
OneFor a moment we caught a glimpse of the real face of Batistelli, a man who takes any different opinion than his personally and is ready to destroy the lives of those who oppose him. In a now (in)famous interview he described SUEPO as “mafia” after which he started to eliminate his perceived enemies one by one (two fired and one downgraded). Feb 06 19:31
OneThen the screen presented a page entitled “Disciplinary cases” which started with the bullet point “Contrary to allegations, the EPO unequivocally supports freedom of expression and freedom of association. (underscore as in the original document), continuing with the following bullet points: Feb 06 19:31
One- Disciplinary cases are not launched because of criticisms expressed against the office. - Sanctions are applied following major breaches of our staff rules and regulations. The cases involved: - Active participation in a damaging defamation campaign against the Organisation, the EPO management and individual staff members (One can only ask oneself if the description of the SUEPO by Batistelli as “mafia” does not fall under âFeb 06 19:32
OneDirect threats and coercion expressed against staff members and staff representatives; Undue financial and moral pressure against EPO employees Pressure brought against witnesses during investigations and repetitive disclosures of confidential matter.Feb 06 19:32
OneThen, in red color: “The office has a duty of care to protect all staff members.”  After the sanctions in Munich and the pending suspensions in The Hague sentences referring to “supporting freedom of expression” have an Orwellian doublespeak ring to them.Feb 06 19:32
OneThen, among soft questions like the proposal of a name to the new building in The Hague, Batistelli explained the role of financial incentives in the examiners´ careers. Here he would have a point if the examiners received instead of between 1,500 and 2,000 EUR yearly bonus (representing an average of 2% of their yearly salaries)Feb 06 19:33
Onesalaries) a bonus in the same order of magnitude as the president or the vice-president – seven- and six-figure sums are rumored but cannot be confirmed because Batistelli enjoys, very conveniently but totally against the principle of openness in a European organization, a secret contract). Feb 06 19:33
OneHe then embarked upon discussing parts of the health reform and argued that all has been done for the good of the people. “Il faut degonfler les rumeurs. There is no control at home! Ridiculous! The cutting of the lump sum for invalidity would only facilitate the return to work. All the decisions are medical. I´m pragmatic, ready to change ...”Feb 06 19:34
OneBatistelli then reiterated that there will be no major reform this year but after 2016 there will be discussions with the staff representation and the delegations (who “actually wish the pension reform” – with the tacit understanding that Batistelli will defend the staff rights in front of an aggressive AC!).Feb 06 19:34
OneQuestions about patent administration, classification and educational allowance for non-German or -Dutch staff were addressed and answered vaguely, with a bullet point interspersed: “Quality is our main priority. We are in competition with other offices. We may be the best but we are the most expensive one.” Feb 06 19:34
OneQuestions about patent administration, classification and educational allowance for non-German or -Dutch staff were addressed and answered vaguely, with a bullet point interspersed: “Quality is our main priority. We are in competition with other offices. We may be the best but we are the most expensive one.” Feb 06 19:34
OneOn the question regarding the fluctuating number of applications Batistelli gave this opinion conveyed also by VP Minnoye in his directors´ meetings, that “Backlog is a mistake. It is not a safety cushion. It is a big mistake. Backlogs are not a strength. It´s a weakness. We´re going to receive more and more applications.” It seems there are few people outside BB and his VP who are convinced of this … Feb 06 19:35
OneFinally, likening himself with général de Gaulle (?) Batistelli clarified the matter of his bodyguards. “Europe is not the same as before the Paris attacks. I am French, president of a big European organization. After the Paris attacks both the French and the German police recommended that I should take measures.” Feb 06 19:35
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One_Continuation of Batistelli report:Feb 06 19:40
One_Finally, likening himself with général de Gaulle (?) Batistelli clarified the matter of his bodyguards. “Europe is not the same as before the Paris attacks. I am French, president of a big European organization. After the Paris attacks both the French and the German police recommended that I should take measures.”Feb 06 19:40
One_The finale was less glorifying than the beginning but all in all it was a pretty good performance. Batistelli showed himself less motivating than Fidel, less pugnacious than Kim Il Sung, but definitely more engaging than Honecker or Zhivkov. Feb 06 19:40
One_Any dictator relies on a three-pillared system involving propaganda, fear and the loyalty of the repressive state apparatus. Batistelli is assured of the loyalty of his minions, there´s a certain degree of fear among the staff but his propaganda doesn´t fool anybody at the EPO. Feb 06 19:41
One_The Administrative Council must finally act and replace Batistelli with somebody it can trust!Feb 06 19:41
One_At present the EPO is run by a loose cannon.Feb 06 19:42
schestowitzthanksFeb 06 19:42
One_End of report.Feb 06 19:42
schestowitzI will write more tomorrowFeb 06 19:42
schestowitznew material tooFeb 06 19:42
One_Hopefully you can stitch it together.Feb 06 19:42
One_Thanks to you!Feb 06 19:42
schestowitzI willFeb 06 19:43
One_Is there any possibility to send all of it together?Feb 06 19:43
One_Could you allow more lines to be sent?Feb 06 19:43
schestowitzif the above is complete, I can stitch itFeb 06 19:43
schestowitzI don't trust unencrypted email without torFeb 06 19:43
One_of courseFeb 06 19:43
schestowitzare there more lines?Feb 06 19:43
One_noFeb 06 19:43
schestowitzok, so don't worryFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzone alternative is, Feb 06 19:44
One_it ended with the AC reference Feb 06 19:44
schestowitzusing something like bitbucketFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzor more secure/anonymous optionsFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzthen posting a link to the pasteFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzpastebinFeb 06 19:44
One_I´m not that knowledgeableFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzor whateverFeb 06 19:44
One_I think I can split messages like I did nowFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzI contacted Dordery todayFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzCorderyFeb 06 19:44
schestowitzWe'll see if he and other Frenchmen are still pursuing this at allFeb 06 19:45
One_it´s a bit more work but it´s a matter of a couple of minutesFeb 06 19:45
schestowitzAlso some Dutch politiciansFeb 06 19:45
One_I guess soFeb 06 19:45
One_but the question is whether the Ministers are going to do anything about itFeb 06 19:45
schestowitzsome pepple paste it in ipkatFeb 06 19:45
One_I´m not entirely negative on thisFeb 06 19:45
schestowitzwhere I syndicate all the commentsFeb 06 19:45
schestowitzbut google isn't good for privacyFeb 06 19:45
One_I knowFeb 06 19:46
One_but ipkat may also censor sometimesFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzMinisters can draw in attentionFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzand give the media something to write aboutFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzipkat does moderation nowFeb 06 19:46
One_I cannot believe he´s going to finish his termFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzsome comments take time to appearFeb 06 19:46
schestowitzit's not just about himFeb 06 19:46
One_and the romour about his leaving was spread even by one of the directorsFeb 06 19:46
One_rumourFeb 06 19:47
schestowitzhe probably though of itFeb 06 19:47
schestowitz*thoughtFeb 06 19:47
One_if Batistelli falls the whole bunch will fallFeb 06 19:47
schestowitznot necessarilyFeb 06 19:47
schestowitzit'll also be hard to rebuildFeb 06 19:47
schestowitzand no volition for UPCFeb 06 19:47
One_Minnoye, who´s regarded as a totally incompetent VP, is hated by the directors, tooFeb 06 19:47
schestowitzI have some more staff about TopicFeb 06 19:48
schestowitzI still have lots of unpublished thingsFeb 06 19:48
One_If you could read the Gazette you would see how many people are voting with their feetFeb 06 19:48
schestowitzbrain drain?Feb 06 19:48
One_a lot of staff reture before time and it´s not only examiners but also directors and a PDFeb 06 19:48
schestowitzall branches? Vienna and Berlin includeD?Feb 06 19:48
One_principal directorFeb 06 19:48
One_yesFeb 06 19:49
One_I recognised the names Feb 06 19:49
schestowitzlike the retired John who managed the IUFeb 06 19:49
schestowitzIs he formally retired yet?Feb 06 19:49
One_even the Brussels man has retired although he was relatively youngFeb 06 19:49
One_who?Feb 06 19:49
schestowitzthus the opening...Feb 06 19:49
schestowitzthe one who approved the keyloggersFeb 06 19:49
schestowitzJohn MartinFeb 06 19:49
One_I don´t know about him but I can askFeb 06 19:50
schestowitzthey'll find some frenchman from ENA to replace him ;-)Feb 06 19:50
One_I know the name onlyFeb 06 19:50
One_no doubt:)Feb 06 19:50
schestowitzOK, I can mention the staff exodusFeb 06 19:50
One_we started amploying people with Afghanistan experience now ... Feb 06 19:50
One_Nadja LefevreFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzseveralFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzyes, also externalFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzlike CRGFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzand their staff knows Nadja, allegedlyFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzKirsch or whateverFeb 06 19:51
One_there was also a UK guy with Afghanistan experienceFeb 06 19:51
schestowitzsome say he met her as a BBC person in AfghFeb 06 19:51
One_in his CV he wrote he spoke:Feb 06 19:51
One_Serbien, Croatian and BosnianFeb 06 19:52
schestowitzsome eastern European languagesFeb 06 19:52
One_which is rubbishFeb 06 19:52
schestowitzhe can speak with Topic and find 'topics' for discussionsFeb 06 19:52
One_there is no Bosnian languageFeb 06 19:52
schestowitzIIRC, Topic isn;'t native CroatianFeb 06 19:52
One_I can´t believe they employed smb like Topic, with his skeletons in the cupboardFeb 06 19:52
schestowitzbefore the balkanisation of the region he came from the area now known as those two long words I can never recallFeb 06 19:53
schestowitzthey have to keep him nowFeb 06 19:53
One_bosnia-herzegovina?Feb 06 19:53
schestowitzrepelling him would be admission of error and guilt by associationFeb 06 19:53
One_of courseFeb 06 19:53
schestowitzyes, that second oneFeb 06 19:53
schestowitzand that's where he studiedFeb 06 19:53
One_they´ll go down all togetherFeb 06 19:53
schestowitzone can hopeFeb 06 19:54
One_we just have to keep stoking the firesFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzmaybe Brimelow is still looking for a jobFeb 06 19:54
XRevan86One_: You're from there?Feb 06 19:54
One_BB cannot survive years of negative publicityFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzword on the street is, two alphamales pushed her outFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzthat Swiss guy and Benoit being prime suspectsFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzI forget the former's name, very Germanic nameFeb 06 19:54
One_I heard about thisFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzBacher somethingFeb 06 19:54
schestowitzLike Gorssbacher Feb 06 19:54
schestowitz*grossFeb 06 19:55
schestowitzhe's still in the nation PO in .chFeb 06 19:55
schestowitzI saw his name there, wouldn't contact him, I think he's loyal to the BB agendaFeb 06 19:55
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schestowitz “Europe is not the same as before the Paris attacks. I am French, president of a big European organization. After the Paris attacks both the French and the German police recommended that I should take measures.”Feb 06 19:56
schestowitzLOLFeb 06 19:56
schestowitzhe had bodyguards beforeFeb 06 19:56
schestowitzI need to write a response to that tomorrowFeb 06 19:57
OneSorry, connection cutFeb 06 19:57
OneYes, in FranceFeb 06 19:57
schestowitz..happensFeb 06 19:57
Onehe´s shamelessFeb 06 19:57
schestowitzBB in the WoTFeb 06 19:57
schestowitzI'm sure that's what ISIS is afterFeb 06 19:57
schestowitzsome spoiled ENA gradFeb 06 19:57
schestowitzin his 60sFeb 06 19:57
Onethere are too many rumours about him:Feb 06 19:58
schestowitzISIS go after the weak and helplessFeb 06 19:58
schestowitznever politiciansFeb 06 19:58
schestowitzunless of course he thinks Judge C is in ISISFeb 06 19:58
Onethat he will prolong here, that he will move to Paris as president of the UPCFeb 06 19:58
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schestowitzhe doesn't have sufficient experience/backgroundFeb 06 19:59
Onethe first thing the press should write is about the secret contractFeb 06 19:59
schestowitzit might be suitable for one of his buddiesFeb 06 19:59
Oneit appears that the AC is signing the budget without knowing his bonusFeb 06 19:59
schestowitzBergot knowsFeb 06 19:59
Oneand only Kongstad knows about itFeb 06 19:59
schestowitzand her husband is BB's protegeFeb 06 20:00
schestowitzOne can easily imagine how he'd exert pressure for payriseFeb 06 20:00
Onehe should be forced to publish his bonus (allegedly over 1 million - 1.4, 1.5)Feb 06 20:00
schestowitzbased on what?Feb 06 20:01
Oneit´s enough for the newspapers to continue writing each time that his contract is secretFeb 06 20:01
schestowitzBrimelow revealed her benefitsFeb 06 20:01
schestowitzcan he get thrice what she did?Feb 06 20:01
OneI guess soFeb 06 20:01
schestowitzoh, well, she's a -gasp -woman...Feb 06 20:01
schestowitzI heard Bergot gave him a 7% payrise, IIRCFeb 06 20:01
Oneshe was relatively honest, maybe even honestFeb 06 20:01
schestowitzsecret payrise on a secret salaryFeb 06 20:02
OneI don´t knowFeb 06 20:02
schestowitzbut he has a post on trasparency in his blogFeb 06 20:02
Onewhich blog?Feb 06 20:02
OneBB?Feb 06 20:02
schestowitzThe Hague sentences referring to “supporting freedom of expression” have an Orwellian doublespeak ring to them.Feb 06 20:02
schestowitzThey did this before, such statements...Feb 06 20:02
schestowitzBB's blog at epo.orgFeb 06 20:02
Oneof course, nothing surprisingFeb 06 20:02
schestowitz!google battostelli epo.org transparencyFeb 06 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - European Patent Office Blog | http://blog.epo.org/Feb 06 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ensuring Transparency - EPO Blog | http://blog.epo.org/the-epo/ensuring-transparency/Feb 06 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Transparency is Sunlight in the Kingdom of the EPO Vampires ... | http://techrights.org/2016/01/12/uploaded-images-with-commentary-and-rebuttal/Feb 06 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Battistelli's EPO Loses 'Customers' Because It Plays 'Favourites' With ... | http://techrights.org/2015/10/28/epo-playing-favourites/Feb 06 20:03
Oneone present always a shining faceFeb 06 20:03
schestowitzsee [2]Feb 06 20:03
Oneaha, I´ll read it laterFeb 06 20:03
schestowitzwell, manute with frangnance morelikeFeb 06 20:03
schestowitzI just need a flow of information to keep publishing about, some sources are now too busy because they're back to work after xmasFeb 06 20:04
OneShould I find out some more interesting stuff I´ll keep you postedFeb 06 20:04
schestowitzDoes anybody know why SUEPO changed the site's CMS for one evening?Feb 06 20:04
OnenoFeb 06 20:04
schestowitzprobably  a test runFeb 06 20:04
OneI guess soFeb 06 20:04
Oneno attackFeb 06 20:04
schestowitznot implied, ever...Feb 06 20:05
schestowitzbut it said c(Feb 06 20:05
Oneso funny, his trip to Latin AmericaFeb 06 20:05
OneCuba?Feb 06 20:05
schestowitz(c) 2016 at the bottomFeb 06 20:05
schestowitzSo I assume it's something in development, the old SUEPO site with Drupal was easier to followFeb 06 20:05
schestowitzalso with RSSFeb 06 20:05
OneWhat on earth can we get frok Cuba (or Cuba from us)?Feb 06 20:05
schestowitzI never heard of patents from thereFeb 06 20:06
schestowitz(I'm sure they have some)Feb 06 20:06
schestowitzpeople in Colombia would patent in the USPTO and other such placesFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzUS companies wouldn't patent much in ChinaFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzno point to itFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzI heard from a guy in Saudi last month about Saudi patentsFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzthe government supports these, but they're crapFeb 06 20:06
schestowitzutter rubbishFeb 06 20:07
Oneof course the US would be their first choiceFeb 06 20:07
OneCuba and Panama don´t count Feb 06 20:07
schestowitz!google scigen egnerate paperFeb 06 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - SCIgen - An Automatic CS Paper Generator | https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/archive/scigen/Feb 06 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - SCIgen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCIgenFeb 06 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Publishers withdraw more than 120 gibberish papers : Nature News ... | http://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763Feb 06 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Mathgen: Randomly generated math papers | http://thatsmathematics.com/mathgen/Feb 06 20:07
schestowitzI recjon some of these patent offices you could submit a random application to and it'd would get acceptedFeb 06 20:08
OneprobablyFeb 06 20:08
schestowitzExaminder: "oh, looks legit... figures, forumlas, where's my stamp..?"Feb 06 20:08
OneI have to go now but thanks for your great contribution. Few people are brave and idealistic nowadaysFeb 06 20:08
schestowitzI have done this for yearsFeb 06 20:09
schestowitzEPO isn't this scary, Topic isFeb 06 20:09
schestowitzhe has history...Feb 06 20:09
schestowitzGlyn wrote an article based on things I had sent him over timeFeb 06 20:10
schestowitzthere's more cmingFeb 06 20:10
schestowitz*coming (in British media)Feb 06 20:10
schestowitz" managed more and more successfully, to bring this European institution into disrepute. It would have been too beautiful. The spineless Administrative Council´s reaction has so far been, in the most fortunate cases, to a"Feb 06 20:12
schestowitzThere's something missing there, after the "to a" partFeb 06 20:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #gnu #linux as first-class citizen for computerFeb 06 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 #games these days https://t.co/Kx37GiiCNRFeb 06 20:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cDk3xV51mH (www.rpgamer.com)Feb 06 20:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.develop-online.net | Welcome back, Commander. XCOM 2 out now on Mac and Linux | Games industry press releases | DevelopFeb 06 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rpgamer.com | RPGamer - News Bulletin - XCOM 2 Releases Simultaneously for PC, Mac, and LinuxFeb 06 20:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What Systemd Developers Want To Change WithFeb 06 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux User-Space In 2016Feb 06 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1ZYgKDsPB1 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 06 20:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | What Systemd Developers Want To Change With Linux User-Space In 2016 - PhoronixFeb 06 20:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "South Korea-based Hardkernel claims Odroid-C2Feb 06 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 has more horsepower... and can be a desktopFeb 06 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 replacement." https://t.co/Dz6QTs2sRfFeb 06 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.computerworld.com)Feb 06 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Make a $40 Linux or Android PC with new Raspberry Pi 2 rival | ComputerworldFeb 06 20:53
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cubexyzwhat does "PX-exclusive" mean?Feb 06 20:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/696075277072515072  https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/696075759807565824Feb 06 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @PatrickMoorhead no need for "support" just wanted 2see if he agreed w me bc I know he often does :-P Free minds,free thoughts @schestowitzFeb 06 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @PatrickMoorhead @schestowitz we are civilised people freely exchanging viewpoints, no need to take out the troll labeling machineFeb 06 21:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NVIDIA GeForce GT 710: Trying NVIDIA's NewestFeb 06 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Sub-$50 GPU On Linux https://t.co/7pmEk7AgL1Feb 06 21:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NVIDIA GeForce GT 710: Trying NVIDIA's Newest Sub-$50 GPU On Linux Review - PhoronixFeb 06 21:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The final results of the Linux GRID AutosportFeb 06 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 tournament https://t.co/vx6K3sNUeKFeb 06 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 06 21:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The final results of the Linux GRID Autosport tournament | GamingOnLinuxFeb 06 21:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "even if millions of people pick up a SteamFeb 06 21:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Machine we won't currently see any changes inFeb 06 21:31
TweetTuxMachines                 the Steam Hardware Survey"Feb 06 21:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8t7zCmB2bN (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 06 21:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Valve rep mentions they will eventually survey Big Picture & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxFeb 06 21:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FreeBSD 10.3 Now In BetaFeb 06 21:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/aDBJsDsTMK (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 21:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 10.3 Now In Beta | Tux MachinesFeb 06 21:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/V8M3lDrSgdFeb 06 21:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 21:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 06 21:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/zrebtDbfWqFeb 06 21:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 06 21:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/vlfig/status/696094140967350272Feb 06 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @ossia Only if it provided stronger guarantees of true free speech. (hint: who decides what's harassment?) @schestowitzFeb 06 22:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jogm16/status/696094977328177152Feb 06 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jogm16: @ossia @schestowitz count me in, I'll also help in testing the application.Feb 06 22:17
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/7018944Feb 06 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Terrifying Ted and his Ultra-Conservative Vision for America http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/05/terrifying-ted-and-his-ultra-conservative-vision-america "to dictate to the rest of the world how they should live"Feb 06 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.commondreams.org | Terrifying Ted and his Ultra-Conservative Vision for America | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/ohlwi ]Feb 06 22:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/696095670579654657Feb 06 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @gnispen @schestowitz perhaps, one day, we’ll have a mushroom cloud as a selfie backdrop! Safer than looking straight at it, I reckon!Feb 06 22:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/696096899930185728Feb 06 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: "literally no meetings with NGOs who have actually taken the time to closely examine #TPP" - this is not good #ca https://t.co/rlZ9T1gs6KFeb 06 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Trade Minister...in January she seemed unaware of the ISDS." https://t.co/d8mXgZ6Stp #tpp #isds @zoobab @glynmoodyFeb 06 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma 5.5.4 and Calligra Suite 2.9.11 nowFeb 06 22:46
TweetTuxMachines                 available https://t.co/twt2THAVYPFeb 06 22:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 22:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/ohlzqFeb 06 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.5.4 and Calligra Suite 2.9.11 now available | Tux MachinesFeb 06 22:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Install Tor Browser Bundle 5.5.1 On LinuxFeb 06 22:46
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/m88HGuQ7RO (linuxg.net)Feb 06 22:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Install Tor Browser Bundle 5.5.1 On Linux | LinuxG.netFeb 06 22:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro ARM launched https://t.co/tPTpiMWfR5Feb 06 22:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (manjaro.github.io)Feb 06 22:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro ARM launched – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityFeb 06 22:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Install Tor Browser Bundle 5.5.1 On LinuxFeb 06 23:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     12 ways to use your Android smartphone moreFeb 06 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 efficiently  https://t.co/RA8ytGBcBDFeb 06 23:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailyherald.com | 12 ways to use your Android smartphone more efficientlyFeb 06 23:13
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